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to tank it. Add a minimum. I agree. I'm surprised they didn't even do that. One tanking boss is
especially since you're basic. Welcome to Rise and Raid. My name is I am. And I'm Jack. With us
in spirit here, feel about gg slash my blue. Of course you want to know what this is all about.
Here's my blue. Where's yours? Oh, this is my blue. Oh, this is my blue. This is mine. My blue.
This is mine. Get on it now. Oh gosh, all right. Long day, I think, but that's okay
because there's all kinds of fun things happening this morning, including this
morning's breakfast and the rest of the food menu for today, Jack. That's right.
Here's the chef's menu for the day. We've got the breakfast burritos once again.
We've got our home fries overnight oats and tons of fresh fruits. Yes, lots of
fresh fruit. And this morning, they separated the fruit. They separated the
berries and the melon slash pineapples. And I'm a pineapple
I was very excited about that this morning.
Usually I just load up on the strawberries, blueberries anyway.
Yeah.
Have to pick through.
See like, it was ingrained in my head at a young age, not to cherry pick things like
that, so I felt like my dad was watching me like cherry pick through the fruit every
time I would do that.
I would do it anyways.
I was like, I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
Oh man.
You know what?
I'm not sorry for the steak and fajita bar is back.
It's my favorite.
Yes.
Love the good steak and fajita bar and some chips and salsa.
Yes.
And rice and beans.
Just load up those bowls whenever we have the sake of the Hina Bar.
It is my favorite. Load it up, grab some extra chips, break them up a little bit for a bit of crunch.
And then we have the big rice bowl.
Yeah, that's a good strategy. Kind of mix it up a little bit.
And then for dinner we've got the Dragon Slayer special, which is my favorite meal that Heidi makes.
It's like the roast beef.
The braised beef with decaf, the whipped Yukon potatoes, dinner rolls and dinner vegetables.
Yeah, I think they were broccolini last time.
Ah, yes.
Yes.
The raiders actually ate all of their veggies.
Shockingly.
Yeah.
How do you get some of the eat the vegetables?
Yeah, I actually got in a little bit late,
and then all of them were gone.
I know.
Plenty of braised beef, plenty of potatoes, veggies gone.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, she certainly is a magician.
I think she probably ran out because she probably
didn't expect them to eat the veggies.
Probably.
Usually that's like the last thing to go.
So maybe we'll get some broccolini this time.
but that's okay, they come first.
That's true, they do.
There's a hard work that they put into it
and honestly, with a marathon of a race
that we've had this season,
it's easy to see why they need to be well fed,
well taken care of.
And a lot of the raiders
have been taken care of each other along the way.
No, it's very true.
It's very humble to see.
And somebody like the Honda MVP of the day
also is definitely exemplary of that.
And that is Trill, Mr. World of Warcraft himself.
He's got a bit of a busy day today, Jack.
That he does.
While balancing everything the racer world first
has thrown at him, and coming into boss fights late,
getting less reps than other people,
still making sure he's performing at that peak level
they have the expectation of, he's also
got AWC qualifiers today.
Yeah, he is going to have to play in those offline games
qualify him for the first AWC cup and also this arguably is the most important
day of the tier so far, Jack. That's right. We've finished our full
re-clear and now we're getting back into Queen Anzarek. And so there was a lot of
pressure yesterday to make sure you're making the most of your time, getting
as much, you know, loot as possible. And you know, Trill, notably, hadn't come in
late on Princess Kaiveza, learned the fight with many less reps than everybody
else and he was in there for that world first kill. Yeah, we love trail. Mr.
World of Boardgrounds always in a good always in a good mood as well which
you know hard hard not to be hard not to be but it's also it can be kind of easy
when the raid goes late and when there's extra stressors a lot of extra
concerns going on of making sure you're taking care of yourself balancing
AWC and the fact that they're still keeping vibes high the fact that they
still have people like Trill bring in that high morale pays a lot of
of dividends later in the race when it's just smashing face
into Queen Anzarek over and over again.
Yeah, yeah, that's very true.
So we'll check it on him later.
Good luck to him.
I don't know how he's going to manage to do both,
but hopefully the scheduling of it works out.
I know like Seadu and Scott and like the sort of like the head
of the guild or like the eSports stuff here, Stuart,
have been kind of coordinating to try and make
that work out for him today.
That's right.
And well, if anyone can figure it out,
it's Mr. World of Warcraft.
Yeah, very true.
So it'll be right.
It'll be all right.
Well, we are partnering, of course,
with the Dungeon Dojo for this race.
And they're going to give us some updates.
They have been giving us some updates on the other guilds
that have been competing alongside us here in the race
world first and working on their own progression.
And we're going to check some of them out.
Honestly, is one of them.
And here they are, honestly, hailing
from the oceanic region.
That's right, very longstanding oceanic guilds.
Here we get a chance to see Baruch Twister
Ovenax for them, and his progression in this encounter has been incredibly difficult for
all but the world's first guilds, even for them.
Yeah.
It was taking a lot of time, you could see the entire room filling up with that black
blood throughout the encounter and just acting really as a soften rage for the fight.
Everyone just bathing in the black blood at the end of the encounter.
You can see how little room that they have for those sticky web dispels that need
to go off, which deal a ton of damage.
And of course, there are going to be rooting players
making it hard to dodge a lot of the purple
swirlies on the encounter.
This one has been absolutely brutal for a crazy amount
of guilds.
And while there were some nerfs and everything,
this weekly reset, nerfing the health of the colossal spiders.
Lee was nerfing the health of the parasites as well,
said he should eat it.
Despite that, you can see they're still
in the black blood still taking forever to burn down the boss.
He has so much health in this one.
Yeah, this is actually popped our cornbob dogs POV.
Also, they are also from, as you can see on the overnacks.
So definitely a little boss for some of the other guilds.
A ridiculously insane boss on this one.
Eriette Tarasen POV in the sea as they're just
continuing to burn down the boss.
The last couple percent left remaining on the encounter.
And all you can do really is just try to stack together,
try to bait any of the Black Blood Squirrely's coming from the boss,
move a little bit further together, and it is just heart-breaking.
Fighting this encounter and trying to find the extra damage.
Taking a look over here at Synergy.
This is actually their kill feed.
And then here's a nice look of the HUD also that Dungeon Dojo has.
A lot of good information over there.
But Synergy, congratulations on downing, let me take over next.
Oh, that's gonna be a huge one for them.
Love to be able to see that level of excitement
coming in onto it, getting the fifth boss down.
And yeah, for a lot of the,
I guess you could call it the semi-hardcore teams,
although they're still very hardcore
compared to a lot of other players.
This has been an incredibly challenging tier
trying to find enough of this eye level,
trying to min-max damage the way
that the world first teams are,
just eke out that kill.
And so I think we only have like 12 or 14 total guilds
in the world, something like that,
that have actually killed Brew Twister
open acts at this point.
Yeah, no, and hopefully that number will continue to raise.
We are on new week as well.
We did have the reset for North American Realms
on Tuesday and then Europe on Wednesday
and then I believe like at Chinese and then KR
and coming maybe Friday.
It's like tonight, Thursday morning,
and then it's like our time.
Yes, yeah, so we're gonna get a lot of guilds
are going to be reclearing. No one has extended shockingly, I know. And I feel like the best
news that we have from the reset is a method downing silken core at the very, very final
moment. Right. This was grueling to watch and definitely made me think of some of my experiences
with insanely long days of raid progression method. Notably the maintenance window is
different than the reset window. So there's a point where weeklies reset,
dailies reset, but they had a narrow window of time to get silken core down.
It was still like two or three in the morning, if not earlier for them. I think
it was earlier. Yeah, but they had to go in, get
silken core down, otherwise the weekly reset comes in, they get kicked out of
the instance, they have a new mythic ID, and they would miss out on the
chance for a loot. We were seeing people taking micro naps in their chairs,
We were seeing, you know, people just like, eyes rolling to the back of their head as exhaustion fatigue was setting in. It was all got COVID too. Like it's, I mean, which just happens when, you know, it's like it's inevitable sometimes. So they have all just kind of like gotten together and they're a little bubble.
So there's like, they're fighting against so many battles. Like that's, that's incredible. I was really, really heartbroken for them. Yeah, I think this is the largest event that they've had as well and recent memory.
memory. Yeah. And then having half of the Raiders getting sick, having a COVID
quarantine bubble set up, trying to play around that. And of course, there's always
going to be like the heartbreak really when you're with the pack, you start
feeling yourself pulling away from the pack or they're pulling away from you.
You need to eke out this kill before the reset. Because I mean, we saw first hand
THD after killing Sokencourt, he goes into his weekly vault and it's
246 yep for the different vaults nodes. His sixth node was a mythic spy master
trinket his best in slot trinket and so the pressure really was mounting upon
them and with I think like 30 or 45 minutes until the week before the
weekly reset came in they did get soap and core down. Yeah it was it was
really cool to see we're gonna take a look at the replay right now let's
check it out these circles rally down get these orbs charging coming get into
position stinging swarms are out one dispel triggered have the court if we
get us up we pump second to spell off three to go one more 19 up the spell
going out two more still I don't know if that bounced one more no it's
Disorientate us. We've done it. We've done it.
Dissection is 3 of a damage.
We pump now. Let's go chat.
5 seconds.
4
3
5
1
It comes in rage.
3%
This has to be it.
1%
We sink this.
Where are we going?
He's going to make sure he puts down his headset before he starts running around hugging everybody.
Yeah, very, very dear.
Oh, I'd love to be able to see that.
Yeah.
That was an absolutely incredible kill, and you don't have to be a Method fan or rootin'
from the win the world first, to be cheering them on, supporting them through that journey.
Because for all of these teams, it's a slog at times.
You have these moments of just trying to get the boss down, just trying to find
some additional amount of damage.
There's the pumpkin hour that sets in
where you start seeing players
sort of falter along the way,
making mistakes they otherwise would not.
There's been a lot of adversity for the Method Squad.
Great to be able to see them
get that world third region second kill.
Yeah, no, I was definitely rooting for them in that moment.
I really wanted to then to get to it
because especially since they've had
such a competitive tier, they've even passed Echo
a few times before we got to that moment.
So I'm assuming they're gonna get their rest
and then do their re-clear
if they're not already doing it.
Cause they, I was looking at Corella's Vod
and hers was live for like 21 hours.
Yeah. She was sitting there
and she just looked progressively more exhausted.
So they deserve a good sleep, some rest,
and they're gonna get into Reclear alongside Echo,
who is currently working on their Reclear.
And we're gonna actually take a look at one of their clips
from their Ovenax Reclear earlier today.
Hey, here we can see the very end of the encounter
for bird twister Ovenax.
And despite the nerfs that were made
just for the ads themselves,
the boss HP is still high enough
that the room is filled with black blood all of the way
and they have to continue dodging on the encounter
and make sure they finish off the fight.
This is a rule in account,
it's we wonder if they kept everybody
in like their AOE builds
just to make sure they kill off the ads.
And so as a result of it,
they just didn't have as much of the boss damage.
Of course, you can see there is a lot of dodging
at the end of the encounter,
but they try to keep everyone pretty closely stacked
before they start moving and dodging around
for the Black Bloods.
Since they know that they're gonna be targeted
on players or around player locations,
it makes it a lot easier to dodge.
So probably a little closer of a kill
and they would have liked.
But at this point, yeah,
if you just have a couple deaths or something like that,
if you get a one-shot, two-shot on these fights,
that's more than good enough to continue.
Yeah, no, and they're gonna be keeping
on with their re-clear.
I hear that they're,
I'm just getting this from chat,
But I hear they're struggling a little bit
on their pre-credits, kind of as a re-clear?
Possibly.
I mean, we had, I want to say, 11 or 12 pulls onto it.
And there was a decent amount of time
that the guild was just talking during the pulls,
figuring those kind of things out.
So I'm curious as to what the actual pull count is for Echo,
since we had a little L bar that
was showing how many pulls for the re-clear for our team.
So I would not be surprised, though,
because next, for instance, kind of as you basically
You just have to like continue rolling the dice to make sure that you have a good pull.
So they could have easily had, let's say, one or two good pulls, they make a mistake
or something like that.
Then they just kind of have to keep on going and going and going until they get the right
pull for them to get the boss down.
Yep.
Well, we'll definitely keep tabs on them as they head through their re-clear and then
method of course when they wake up, if they haven't yet already, when they're
done with their break.
I hope they're like just now waking up.
Me too.
That might be like 10 hours.
Yeah.
I hope they get some rest on this one.
I'm sure once they do, they'll close that gap pretty quickly.
But of course, like I said, we will be keeping tabs.
But yesterday we spent the entire day
re-clearing, doing some splits, getting some mythic plus as well.
It was a very productive day.
I didn't really get to see much mythic re-clear myself
on my casting box, except for open acts.
And then they kind of like melted it down.
The ones like this.
So, no, I mean, lots of gear.
We saw lots of whoo-ing, like whoo-ing when the volts opened as well.
So lots of good drops.
There were and it was a great highlight as to the importance of getting that silken
court kill before the reset onto that one.
And so we had some incredibly juicer vaults with a lot of celebration and
excitement going on as everybody started tuning in for it.
I love the vaults and I love how they've added it so it's not as random as it was
for example in like BFA or just a box. Yeah.
And we started off our day fracking open those juicer vaults, THD, you can see in
in the top right corner there.
That is the node that he earned by killing Silkencourt.
And so you were able to see a direct result, really,
of killing Silkencourt, unlocking that loot option,
and being able to get that this, best in slot,
Mivik's spy master's weapon.
That's possible, Trinket, that he can get in the game.
They got as a result of killing Silkencourt
before the weekly reset came into play.
So we had ReClear going on,
but we also had some interesting things for the Reclear.
Yeah.
Where we kill the first four bosses of Nithic
and then you kind of get to the branching in the path
like we have our inner Honda boss web,
where you can choose to go with Rude Twister
downstairs or Nexus Princess upstairs on a trash.
So they cleared through all the trash
to try to farm for some BOEs.
We call them BOEs, but basically you could trade the item
to anybody in the raid group at the time.
Right.
There's six, I can't remember the exact number,
but it's three out of six for the nitric track.
So it's an almost like fully upgraded item,
very high value onto that one.
Then they get out of the instance,
do some heroic Anzure exploits for 30 minutes,
come back into the instance,
start clearing through trash again,
and they did this five or six different times
and it ended up coming up with like four
or five additional items for their team as a result.
Definitely worth it.
Yep, and that helped them.
It paid some massive dividends
when they go into Brew Twister,
when they go to Nexus Princess,
when they went into Silicon Court for the re-kills.
They got all of those done today, or last night.
And now today, it's just Queen Anzaraq.
Sure is, yeah.
But we had some other interesting things happen yesterday.
We had a special guest.
That we did?
Yeah, we were joined by Dash and his lovely dogs.
We had some extra time over there to kind of pick
his brain.
He's a big fan of the race world first.
And he clearly had been following very closely
as well, just like the loss of knowledge
on everything that's been going on.
And it was cool to have him yesterday.
Did you meet his dog?
Absolutely, of course.
I met Azula.
Azula, yes.
He's an adorable golden retriever.
Yeah, I was frankly a little bit more
excited about the dog than Dash.
Don't tell him that.
Don't tell him that.
I'm just kidding.
He even said the same thing.
He's like, I think they're inviting me because of my dog.
Yeah, but we do have a clip of that,
and we can check it out.
But it was cool to have him, and it was fine.
It was great also that we got
to have some actual mythic prog on.
I felt bad because on my segment that I was with,
it was me as ironic and dash,
it was like only re-clearing and a lot of filling
for the most part.
But I think on his final segment,
he actually did get to see some mythic pulls.
Yeah.
It's great to be able to see in this.
You know, it's one of the challenges, of course,
coming in on reset as well.
And yeah, there's a moments where there's a lot
of re-clear, a lot of setup.
The item level gains for re-clearing in this rate
are massively higher than we've had out of other raids.
So there is that kind of importance on hand as well,
just to make sure that you're getting those re-keels done.
But hopefully he had a great time.
I hope so too.
Well, let's check out the clip.
A 0.5 or down a 0.5 or something like that.
Yeah, I agree.
I usually tend to dislike a lot of the, oh.
It just, you know, fits there in case you need it.
It's for Max's interview.
Oh, I don't think it's for Max's interview.
I think it might be for Ash.
I mean, he could win a dollar.
You could win a calamity with a dollar. Yeah, I have to get that to spin it. Yeah, I spotted earlier
And I like what I got it was off-camera, but now I'm worried I'm gonna get one. I don't like
Here we go. I'll just go nice light spin. We don't need to be here forever
Give me a dollar give me a dollar give me a dollar give me a dollar
Oh, yeah
Give me a dollar
Yo, this made the whole thing worth it
All right
The short lived dollar
I want them to invite me back
I didn't question it easy come easy go server like this and then just fully hands it all over and it's taxes for you
Yeah
Yeah
Deep I was gonna say that cut a little deeper than I was expecting boy. Yeah
It's like we need like a singular twitch 7 all you think about is like okay, so twitch is taken half
Taxes are taken, you know like 30 20 30 percent cool
Love that
Yeah, at least they get the benefit of an ad previewing for the rest of the race to world first
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Do it. Makes us look good as well.
But let's talk about Liquid, Team Liquid.
They're rolling in here.
We've got some progress that we're going to hopefully get to today.
Yes.
We got to Quibit yesterday in terms of Mythic.
We kind of talked about it a little bit.
Let's just go straight into the clip,
because I feel like we kind of already covered it.
Let's check it out ourselves.
Where's Boomi's POV?
Because they were re-clearing yesterday.
I'm cleaning.
Well, not re-clearing.
This is cleaning.
After they re-cleared.
After they re-cleared and went into the actual boss.
Thank you, Jack.
Absolutely.
And you can see the liquefy still
is going to be incredibly important on this encounter.
It's going to be launching all of those poison
fields out onto the group.
And you can see just how tightly stacked
they are to make sure they have control
over their total space.
And there's maybe one additional of these web lines
going out in the very beginning of the fight,
but not too terribly much.
But a lot of teams were having, like my own team,
just dropping off their bubbles
here at the edges of the room.
You can see here they're dropping off just to the side of where they had previously dropped their liquefied fields and their web fields, some of this one.
You can also really quickly see with the origin of the webs how much additional web spread there is under the group.
And since you need all of the space possible, pretty similar to SIRD and Atherias Phase 1,
they can get insanely important to make sure they have that proper coverage.
Of course when you're breaking out of those root effects you use like communities you're automatically dropping webs and you can already see
How much space is being saved in the room very early on in the fight
Nice and organized here
I'm sorry, I'm sorry
Oh my goodness.
You know where I was going with that.
Yep, I knew exactly where it was going.
Yep, absolutely.
Here you have the three of the orbs that are going to be used to jump over any of the
void waves or the toxic waves that she's sending out onto the group and once again
another round of web lines coming out.
You can see sometimes you're just having to jump back into the toxic wave just to
make sure you're dodging everything on this fight.
Once again, take advantage of the full space in the room, using those immunities whenever
possible to break out of those webs, and kind of reducing the amount of AoE damage required
in this fight, since there's a lot of single target damage required to bring down Anzurek,
and you also, of course, have to deal with the shields in her intermission phase.
I'm going to be honest, I haven't seen this fight yet, so you're doing great.
Thanks.
Here we have four of our Pops.
I'm trying to remember the exact name of it.
It's still early.
little bit more. Yeah. Yeah, a little like void poppers.
When a player needs a scientific name, I like this.
Boomi's rooted though!
Boomi always looks terrified.
I would be terrified too.
His face is like...
I would be terrified as well.
Yeah.
Let me double check. Is that our best goal thus far?
I hope so.
Okay, I believe so. I think so too.
I always want to make sure that we're able to double check.
Let me check out the runner show.
First phase on that one.
in action for how they're maximizing space, how they're moving together as a team.
And this is something that was really noticeable, even on, like, Sire to Nathrius, maximizing
space, making sure they're in the right position to kill off adds, and then how they're having
the entire raid sort of shift together.
There's going to be basically an unending cascade of additional burst damage onto the
encounter, at least from what we've seen thus far.
And they've got to make sure, especially on encounters like the end bosses, usually
you kind of funnel in dozens if not like 100 something wipes into like perfecting phase one
and avoiding any sort of doubt as to where somebody needs to position where they need to set up
because then later on down the line you have so much more to work on in terms of the progression
that you can't be fumbling wipes into like phase one. So this practice is definitely key.
Yeah we're gonna more practice on that of course today once everybody gets logged in and ready
to go. Do you know if they're gonna do anything before just heading in to get some pulls?
I don't know I can't finish everything but it seems like I can't imagine there's much more than they would be getting out of heroic and
At this point they're the grade
There you have a thd from the voice of thd himself
I absolutely do I would have my life I do too
He could put out a gateway and not show me where the edge of the gateway was and I would take it every time Wow
Yeah, absolutely, so it looks like we have some of the grade playing all day long
which is going to be wonderful to see since this is really a golden opportunity for them.
Now that everything's really been cleared out, they have gotten through all the chores,
they've gotten through all the setup. They had a very strong reclear showing with not too many
wipes early on. Now it's time to just start smashing out Frog. Yeah, it's kind of like all
of the prep work. It's like prep work. Even the even the mythic bosses up until this point.
And now it's just like they were in the final hour basically of the race world first echo.
I'm assuming is going to be done with their reclear soon as well and now we're just really
into the meat of the racer world first and this is where things really get just more and more
exciting. They do and it's easy sometimes to you know kind of get distracted by the excitement
and some of the fun and joy and everything like that and so for a lot of the raiders having
some of these special messages from the community cheering them on and encouraging them
I think has meant the world to them. Yeah definitely going to be keeping tabs on those
because you guys have been sending in so many to us so far through the My Blue program, teal.gg
slash My Blue, if you'd like to check it out and send in some words of encouragement of your own.
Scan this code or go to teal.gg slash My Blue and check it out. There is so many fun quests
you can do to get started with your My Blue. You can collect all kinds of little items.
That are some of them exclusive to the race world first and World of Warcraft inspired.
You can see some of those items right now.
And everybody's been kind of dripping out their little My Blue.
I wish we had like some of IRL ones up here.
We could put them on our little.
Oh, yeah.
That would be fun.
That would be really sick.
Yeah, they have on hand.
These are great because there's a number of ways
to earn some of these customizations for them.
Yeah, it's very true.
There's a number of quests, for example,
that you can have to customize your My Blue.
And a lot of them inspire, of course,
by the narrow bar palace raid.
Yeah, and you can also customize it yourself.
And if we like it enough, we might feature it on broadcast as well, along with some of those encouraging notes.
And also, this one, if you watch Max's stream, you get this thing.
Ooh, this little narrowbar palace robe.
Yeah.
Like a plate robe in the hand.
Yeah, that's kind of nice.
It does.
I like how Blue's just kind of doing T-Pose.
T-Pose.
Yeah, a little, ooh, look at my thing that you can get if you watch Max's.
Yeah.
But that's not the only quest you can complete.
There are many others, including one for the Liquid Guild derp shirt.
You're my Luke and have its own derp shirt.
And if you complete that quest, Jack, you can be entered into a giveaway
to win all kinds of cool stuff.
We have the masterful treasure trove coming.
If you've completed this quest to get your blue, their derp shirt,
you are automatically entered in.
You need to hold it under the shot for a while.
Yeah. Two keyboards, five mouse pads, three different shirts,
including the jersey, one hoodie for Queen Anzarek,
two of the Sherpas, the big jackets for Illidan,
Arthas, multiple plushies on hand.
We've got the monster, of course,
from the Raiders themselves
offering up their favorite monster.
And we're gonna show it on to the next tab.
We've got a secret lab chair.
We've got the 20th anniversary collectors edition
for the World of In.
Oh my gosh, there's so much.
That's one giveaway, by the way.
Yeah, it's it they really went crazy. I thought it was gonna be multiple giveaways when I was seeing all of this stuff listed out
But no, it's it's one so like I said till dot gg slash my blue complete the derp shirt quest and you could be
Entered for this giveaway here's some of that other stuff that you can get as well
This is a part of the same giveaway. This is some of the apparel from previous race to world firsts here at the team
liquid race world first
there's a lot
so make sure you bring my blue today check it out and
Even if you don't win, you're also able to pass along some great direct messages to the guilds.
Yeah, let's check out some of those messages that we've been mentioning here. Here's one of
some three of them. The first one, let's go Liquid Guild all the love from Argentina.
Thank you for that one. We also got you guys got this. Make sure you take care of yourselves
first and then bring some fire to those spiders.
Brevin, this one says cheering on Liquid Guild for world first answer. I'm looking forward
to the boys in blue taking it home for NA.
Hashtag freedom.
Freedom!
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
One and all for those.
This has been fantastic.
Love to be able to see all those customizations
and your own creativity as well.
They already have some of the axes
and the, gosh, I'm trying to remember
the name of the weapon,
but they had the Regicide Blade from, like,
yeah, Texas Princess Kaveza as well.
Love to be able to see them.
Thank you, one and all.
Love the creativity so far.
But thank you so much, everyone,
that has submitted your MyBlue, like we said,
till.gg slash MyBlue.
Definitely go check out that Derp shirt quest.
It's very easy.
You can just go, I'm seeing a lot of questions.
Just trust me, go to the link.
It'll help you from there.
It's, they're fun.
They're fun and they're simple.
Fun, they're easy and it's a great way as well
to support the Raiders and the Race to World First
alongside of it, you know?
Yeah.
Another great way is with some awesome shirts.
Yeah, some of the shirts that we've got here
for the race to world first.
This time around, we've got the jersey,
we've got the derp shirt, we've got the hoodie,
we've got the shirt, we've got some mouse pads,
all kinds of cool stuff, Jack.
Absolutely, I'm very excited about the mouse pads
every year.
They also have the jerseys like you mentioned
which have just above the horns of Anzurek herself.
They can have the gamer tag in the front
and of course feature along the back.
These are always just warm, cozy, comfy,
great for any situation, great for any occasion.
Yeah, definitely.
You're wearing one of those,
This is not the race for the first hoodie, but you are wearing a Team Liquid hoodie.
That's right.
I always try to get one or two of these every single time.
Yeah.
I'm just comfy.
Dude, they always do that.
They always give us a bunch of goodies.
Right.
Lots of apparel, some other things sometimes.
Kind of a mazzi.
Oh yeah.
Here's a good story.
Do you know the story better than me?
I just know he keeps me making his Florida man warlock noises like I don't have an
approval in my suitcase.
Oh yeah.
He just brings like a carry-on every time
and he's like, I'll never fit all of these.
And I'm like, but just check a bag.
And he's like, no, no, no, I won't fit all of these.
Pretty sure they pay for a bag.
Yeah.
I check a bag and it's like half empty
because I just know they're gonna
save.
Warm us with swag.
Yeah.
Yep.
Every time.
Team Liquid is paying for you to check a bag, Pelamozzi.
And yet you carry it on.
Riddle me that.
I know he's a sniper now,
but somebody send him this clip.
Yeah.
We'll play it back in and everything like that.
I overpack it and I make sure that there is room
because I just, I don't know, these things can last a long time
and they're kind of grueling, so I'm like,
I'm gonna bring all of my creature comforts
or I'm gonna get exhausted by the end of the two weeks.
Learn that in Boston.
Bring all the things.
Bring all of the things.
Did you bring any pets with you?
Maybe like four animals?
No, but I did get a picture last night.
I video called with my partner
and he held up the animals.
Show dog?
One by one, like they miss you,
but no, I definitely miss my pets while being here
And which is why obviously I'm an animal lover.
So many of us here are at the Team Liquid Race World
first here, which is why we're so honored to be partnering
with the Santa Monica Animal Shelter once again
for this Race World first.
And the fans, you guys from home
have been supporting it so, so much.
Thank you everyone for being so generous so far
with helping us with our cause.
We are at, does that say 19?
That says 19, Jack.
There we go, you're actually getting better.
No, I looked over at that one,
which is a little bit bigger.
It's a little bit closer to me,
but $19,000, which means we are less than $1,000
for our date with Zelotov.
My gosh, it's coming quickly under that one.
And for $25,000, we hit our peak goal.
We're gonna have to make some new ones,
but we're also going to be waxing the leg
of a member of production, one of the Raiders,
and one of our commentary team.
Yeah, yeah, Kai and Dratnose very willingly,
they're almost too quickly volunteered for that one.
A little bit.
Yeah.
He's a raider that will be, will be waxing his leg, he was a little bit more hesitant, but I think he only did it because he thought we weren't going to get to $25,000 and Jack it's kind of looking like we are.
Oh it absolutely is. Through your generosity we've been able to support the Santa Monica Animal Shelter, this is the second time now, and last time we were able to help fund a play area for all of these.
Yeah, play area, a lot of medical fees as well, so really these donations are going to an incredible, incredible cause.
And here are some of the pets that we featured, $30 sent to our charity, and you can have your pet featured as well.
Oh my gosh, is that a hedgehog?
Where's that?
In like the middle, kind of in the middle.
Oh it is!
Yeah!
Wow!
Look at that little guy.
You look so happy.
Yeah, and there's like some sort of parrot bird.
I'm not an expert. Somebody correct me, I'm sure.
Love the little husky in the bottom right.
Yeah, do you like huskies?
I feel like I've heard you mention huskies before.
They're a lot of maintenance.
I mean, they're a lot of work.
That's true.
You have a lot of opinions.
They have a lot of opinions.
They do. I love the husky like screaming thing that they do.
So cute.
What's like the smarter the dog, like the more they'll like talk back to you and
Yeah, can confirm. Own a poodle. Does talk back to me. But yeah, no, I love Husky. And I love all of the animals that you guys have been sending in. Please keep them coming. Also $30 and you can submit your transmog as well.
I listen, I gotta say, we're not great at rating them. I feel like, I feel like what kind of mean.
I don't think I'm mean about transmogs. Petals is mean about transmogs.
You know what, you're right. It's just petals. The rest of us, I think, are fair.
as far as can be for people that are transmog people it's really someone that's
in the community that's known to be a transmog person famous are there
transmog influencers there should be yeah that should be a thing there's got
there's probably some people's like side hobby or something like that you know
sometimes people would just like bust out of nowhere having like the most
insane knowledge of every single item in the game over time people are
saying asmongold but of course he did his transmog competition yeah I was
leading to. Maybe we should bring them on the broadcast. I don't think we're going to get
Aswin Goldie come on here and do a segment with us two or three times a day.
Let's see if he's busy. What do you guys got going on?
Yeah, we're calling it up. Yeah, absolutely. I don't know. Someone let
him know that we want him for our charity segment, please.
You know, we also want to highlight for the charity segment. We want to highlight
some of the amazing animals you can adopt.
We sure do. Tilt.gg slash adopt. We have been featuring an adoptable animal
at the Santa Monica to shan animal shelter every single day.
Today we went with the cat.
I love my boyfriend picked this one out.
Oh, Lester.
He picked out Lester.
He loves cats.
Look at those little grippers.
The Pailons.
Yeah, the Pailons.
Yeah, we can kill him all over here with the Pailons.
But this guy, he's a senior kitty.
He's an old man, 14 years old.
And he's been at the shelter since August.
So honestly, not that long,
but apparently he's very playful, loves his catnip,
Mice toys making biscuits and cuddling.
Oh, look at that coat.
Yeah, and I think, I know, very shiny,
and I love that.
I think it looked like he was mid-biscuit.
Right, yeah.
Must have been.
And I gotta say, as someone that adopted a senior cat
from a shelter, they're the best.
They're the best cats, because you know,
you don't have to dog, you wanna go like hiking and stuff
and maybe be active with it,
because you just wanna snuggle around.
And senior cats, they're gonna do that.
They just wanna sleep and snuggle.
Yeah, yeah.
And eat.
eat. So honestly I cannot advocate for adopting a senior cat more. So if you're local or you can
find some way to transport, please please go check out teal.dgd slash adopt and check out Lester
and all of the other incredible animals that are available for adoption. That's right they are
indeed and they are at capacity as well for dogs. So if you're interested in a dog they have a
ton of them they've been working on having to play areas make sure they're well socialized
learning the basic commands all of those big things just to make sure they are as well
prepared really as they can to be adopted to their new forever home. Yeah, yeah, so please please please go check it out but also monetary
donations are extremely helpful as well so we're super excited to be supporting them and the Raiders are too actually I know a
lot of them are also kind of kind of into the whole animal support thing. Yeah, I mean lately we've been learning a lot more about the Raiders
through our favorite game Guess That Guilty. Yeah, yesterday we didn't do so well Jack. Yeah, it was a bit of a struggle but they also
like reordered some of the different like clues. They're making it hard on purpose. Yeah, they're like
they're a DPS. What's their hidden talent? Oh, I don't know what the DPS is and like,
or I don't know what my hidden talent is. Yeah. Sorry, I'm laughing at chat because someone's
already like, it's THD. They're excited. All right, well, let's get to the segment. Clearly,
they're ready to go. They know the drill here. Let's check out the first clue favorite song.
I don't know what this is.
Donobar, Donza, Kudrow?
I have no idea what that is.
I don't either.
Oh, no.
Okay.
Do we want to throw out a guess?
I don't even know what kind of music this is.
Chat, what kind of music is this?
It's a banger. They're saying it's a banger.
Okay, who have we already guessed?
Okay, we've already guessed.
Atlas, THG, Tobo, Boomi, Telly, Scott, Nick, Yipz, Dazzer, Bubba, and Trill, and Driney.
Oh, apparently it's Latino, reggaetal, who's?
Okay.
What is it?
We have done THD.
I was gonna say, we have done THD.
We've done Atlas, but it was nothing Atlas.
Who else is like, who'd be?
I mean, I probably would build it if I heard it.
I just don't know the name of, like, the name doesn't speak to me at all.
It's like, that's my impression.
Okay.
We've done Goopin maybe as well.
Okay.
Popped in the US as well.
This is the kind of music I'm like, yeah, hold on.
Could be saying, could be saying.
Saying.
Yes, final answer.
Wait, I'm so dumb.
He listens to in-game music.
Yeah, well, Keynes.
Box combo, no slaw.
Oh.
Terrible.
A gamer of culture.
Now what?
Keynes is the best.
Yes, but the no slaw.
Probably got extra bread.
Probably got extra bread.
Is Keynes a Midwestern thing only?
It's in Texas, probably in Tennessee.
I know it's in Texas.
OK, all right.
This is a tough one.
I really want to get this one.
We do have dry knee already.
We have dry knee already.
We already have dry knee.
We need a pinned message during this section of everyone
that we've already guessed.
I know.
The chat can help us out.
It's honestly a struggle onto that one.
Yeah.
How about I'm Exile?
I'm Exile.
All right, let's guess it.
Exile.
We're going to guess Exile.
Okay.
Okay.
Clevonis.
Also a gamer of culture.
Yeah.
And that one.
Okay.
That was a gamer boss.
Sevi?
No.
All right.
Let's get Sevi.
Let's get Sevi.
Okay.
Hidden talent.
Schedule planning.
Schedule planning?
Okay.
So this could be an analyst.
And this could be an analyst.
Good for you.
Schedule planning. How is that a hidden talent?
What in the hell?
You do have bubble already. You do have bubble already, guys.
Yeah, it's not Max. Schedule planning? Max?
That's, that's funny.
What if it is C.O.R.I.? What if it's C.O.R.I.?
If it's C.O.R.I., I'm gonna, I'm gonna laugh. It's C.O.R.I.
You wanna put, you wanna get some?
Yeah.
Okay, C.O.R.I.
No.
Okay.
I don't think I could, I can do it.
Okay, okay, okay, okay. I don't think it's Bart. I know he listens to techno
Well wouldn't it be because we already have Bubba and tell him
We've already had so it's either time. I guess it's got a tag other tags of art, so I think it's tags tags. Oh
My god
Oh
Okay, see the analyst for me off our banker our banker
I guess analyst is kind of an umbrella term now for just anyone that's in that room.
That is true.
Okay.
They're locked into the side room.
Schedule planning makes sense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That should have disqualified a number of different people.
Yeah.
All right.
Wow.
Okay, Orissa.
Okay.
We're stinking.
Yeah, shout out, Orissa.
Yeah.
I heard Scott and Max commenting on how well Orissa has been doing for the last couple
of tears so we love to see it yeah we'd love to see it too so man behind the
scenes it does a lot of work that doesn't get appreciated enough I think we
redeem ourselves yeah let's redeem ourselves let's do another one how shall we
do another one we we need it we need it really bad yeah okay let's check it out
Oh, it's a bastard.
Burger?
I can't do that.
Is there any EU players?
Have you had my guest yet?
Oh, we've...
Impact!
Okay.
Can you imagine if I got that right?
I would have been into it.
Running in Starcraft 2.
I think it's start... hold on, hit it until it runs...
Okay, looks like a runner.
Rivens? Have we done Rivens?
Rivens has a runner build.
I'm gonna guess Rivens.
Yeah, I think you're right.
No!
Does he not look like a runner to you?
That makes so much sense now.
He used to wear like a gator around his neck every morning.
Really?
Yeah.
Hey, role DPS, they both sired in that trio.
Yeah, just the way it is now.
I just knew it was European.
Just knew.
Yeah, yeah.
Can't see beaver.
I'm gonna, what is that?
What is that?
I don't know.
of the sea.
Sheep?
You know, like crocodiles and alligators, there's like, you know, fresh water, saltwater, there's
a...
Sure, yeah.
You know, saltwater readers.
This is a, this is a joke that I am not aware of.
Sometimes I feel like we get a little bit of insight into the weird inside jokes that
they've got going on, and then sometimes they just go over my head and I'm like, you
know what, I'm going to let y'all just roll with that one.
Exactly.
No idea what's going on.
Oh, we have time for one more.
We do have time for one more.
You want to do one more?
Yeah.
All right.
Let's get to see.
sushi sushi okay who was a man of listen max these boys are like chicken
nuggy type most of them so who who has a mature enough palette to eat something
like sushi do you think does max not like sushi not max I know I've had sushi
with him huh he does like sushi I don't know if it's his favorite meal
though. We've already guessed. We've already guessed. We're not gonna guess Max. We've guessed a lot of
people. These have to be the more like niche side guesses basically. Also fired up is hilarious. I
don't think fired up is ever... you probably don't even know what sushi is. I mean we could throw out
Max. Do you want to do it? I'm gonna guess sang. How about that? Okay, sang.
Yeah. Alright. Hidden talent. Flipping my phone. What? Uh, is King Fly? Have we done
King Fly? I don't believe so. Alright, I'm gonna guess King Fly. I just really like to
throw things. Yeah. It's like a... Nelfarian. What? Aryan? But why? Oh, why? Look at chat
Oh
Milman says they're old
Could it be max?
There's no way
There is no way
It's the week or a guy Bart
If you have good sushi in the Netherlands, there's no way. Maybe that's why I like coming here. Maybe
Do we do we have we have we quizzed people that are not on site, do you know?
Only people that are on site so it could not be love all
You know what rip a guess BART
Yeah, I like to shout out Rosa, Martin and Ives
We have to found you guys and can't wait to get back and see you all again
Oh man, aww.
We love Bart.
Great guy Bart.
Yeah, he's very helpful in multiple ways.
I learned, I don't know if you noticed during,
oh my gosh, now I'm like, Princess Kaiveza,
when it would go to intermission,
or not, sorry, not Princess Kaiveza.
Oh my god, now my days are,
so when it would go to intermission,
and when the whole room would turn dark,
The graphics would change on the side.
That was Bart that helped coordinate that with WarChamp.
Love that.
Yeah, I don't know how they figured it out.
But he's been, he helped us with some of our graphics, I guess,
and making sure they worked.
That's huge.
Yeah.
There's always little things behind the scenes
that you learn about everyone helping out with.
And now we get to learn a little bit more
about the Raiders themselves.
Yeah.
And the core consultants.
So hopefully we'll redeem ourselves.
Oh, you know what though?
I'm going to take the W with the Rivens guess.
That's right.
Yeah, I said that one.
And it just came to me.
Spot on.
Yeah, I'm gonna go Adam on Strava now after this.
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American as well. It's crazy. Okay, so things we learned near the end of yesterday too. We're
like that uh that late movement i think for now until we see the intermission that last one give
triangle and diamonds so much room we'll get them closer with time also who's popping star and orange
in the last set i'm orange i'm star okay that star has to be at one and a half one point six on
the dot and an orange has to be before the cast for the other two to even have a chance
Did we get hands moved out of third? Was that the problem? On the third one? You want to be in first? First and second?
I don't care which one I talk. I'm just placing them. Placing them. And that's fixed.
Oh, I know.
Barred question.
Guys, what's fucking go? Where's the gas?
Oh, shit. You don't want to listen to a shot?
There you go, hit that shi- is it gas pedal?
Yes sir.
Oh fuck.
Hit that shit in the queue right now.
Okay, how the fuck did I guess gas pedal like that? Hold on.
That's crazy.
What are you gonna spend that of Yankees up to these days?
I thought it was gas pedal or started up, but I fucking guessed right.
We going? What are we doing?
I'll put it on.
Check the brick.
Need 30 seconds?
Dude, my favorite song is Ice Cube.
Ice Cube fucking hits man.
Do you have an idiot boom?
Ice Cube?
Dude, ah fuck yo.
He has like a million songs in this like full good world.
He might laugh but, I mean I dropped 200 bands and got a feature.
He gave me one word in the song.
What'd you say?
You haven't seen Free Kings?
Is it an off film?
He's actually a good actor.
I'm a song guy.
How the fuck you movie guy, come on now.
Alright, one's ready as well.
Cause I work Shaq, I wanna know.
I'd like fucking elephant.
Kyle, you say Kyle.
Elephant.
Walking around.
Joe.
Locify.
We're moving.
Roots into the line dodge into reactive toxin.
Roots and then start moving with the boss of lines.
Reactive toxins go back.
Move with lines, move, move, move, move, move.
Go back to the markers if you have one.
If there ever this close Shaq, it's super important that you uh, you know.
you're fucking w shack oh dodge waves that's ways that's ways
hey liquify to pretty move we're moving and then same thing we're doing roots
into lines again okay we're breaking and moving for lines in three two one
move move move move move move move nice we're doing what we're staying here
doing lines just spreading the fuck out and there's some markers down okay and look at the markers
just make sure orange in the back one orange in the back one this is gonna be so fucked
okay do we want my dart on that we have so much space here let's just do ourselves a little room i think
what does that mean actually what like where like should the marker be farther
further. I think they're just further from the wall and just more, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I could have made it to star in that situation. Like I could have hovered through, but I don't
think everyone could do that if they get that star assignment, so a little more space would be good.
The prioritize, like, who's dropping where? It's like, maybe I was a jump star for example,
and it looked like a cheat total or spot. It sounded like I was like your range then, right?
you know fired up me and goop so it's like it was it was actually three range
yeah that is that is definitely that is definitely unlucky the thing is though as
I did I did segment it in the order that like if like the range are stored
within themselves and I have things like evokers that get star and I just
imagine they'll just have a movement to get there but that was a mulligan I
I need to get some vods on my screen though.
Let's go again.
Have we started all the vods yet?
I haven't started but it's a lot of fun.
You better start a channel.
I just restarted the new one.
But it's my own. It's my fucking own ball.
Okay, we're moving with Leucophy.
First roots. Moving with roots.
Reactive toxin lines, dodge lines, dodge lines, dodge lines.
Get the reactor toxins over there.
Oh, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. Resum Resum now
We've got them
Yep, so I'm not killed uh pretty mean this one
All right
Just maybe boomie wants to watch waves guys ways ways ways
Break you up big bro. Thank you. We're doing liquefy here
If we're gonna be giving more room with those things need to make sure that our liquefies are
Offering you to always make sure I'm in the better spawn. It's your guys roots. We're breaking into lines
you're gonna get four back here we're gonna need like huge huge fucking
personals okay you ready to soak these hot pots and house ones on the liqify
how did you get that one?
I think I got it right
I got it right
I got it right
I got it right
I got it right
I got it right
I got it right
I got it right
I got it right
You saw pots and house ones on the liquefying. This is gonna hit so fucking hard. All right, so we're going to take
Yeah, just live right now and into the liquefying dot
okay
No, it's got dead no
A. Lee A. Lee A. Lee A. Lee A. Lee A. Lee
A. Lee assumes move for line that's for one move for the lines try to finish them off so they can move
still practice this movement still practice this movement okay well it's far
there's no arms oh those markers are good by the way like the distance I
want to do it like here's maybe no that those markers are fine well we have no
room but we have no room to do the intermission actually right now
I think we need a lot of extra space there.
I think we need a lot of extra space, Apple.
It is to be in relation to the military.
You need to have a lot of space to put the routes,
like the new sort of routes and spread for lines there.
Good stuff too.
Hello everybody. Good morning.
Welcome back to the Team Liquid.
Race to world first.
My name is Aya.
I'm here with Kal-Mazi and Automatic Jack.
Jack Kalamaz is kind of demon hours for you. You're doing okay, buddy. I do what I got to do. I got to be up early
I'll be up. What are you rolling your eyes?
Yeah, immediately as telegons walking by listening to Calvin, I'll get up early.
Hard rolls his eyes.
I got to get up early. It's all right. Yeah, gotta work. Man of the people. Man of the people.
Well, let's give a quick recap.
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Of course, we are progressing on Mythic and Sarek.
Very, very exciting stuff here.
We've got Echo and Method working on their Reclear as well.
We'll keep everybody in line with that.
We can take a look at our Coinbase leaderboard.
Of course, we can see where we basically are
in the top 10 for all of the
guilds around the world, Jack,
and we're we're we're doing
we're doing good right now.
We're sitting prettier than
Kalamazie in the morning.
That's for sure.
Right.
Right.
Yeah, definitely.
Well, team liquid as you can
see seven out of eight echo
seven out of eight method seven
out of eight hot pie hero.
Of course, their their reset
happens.
It hasn't happened yet.
So they could get to seven
out of eight before their reset.
And then we'd have four bosses
kind of neck and neck at the
same time. If you take a look at the Honda Boss ProGress, like I said, we're 7 out of 8.
We're over there on Queen Ansorex. 63.76% is currently our best pull, and hopefully we'll
see some prog. Maybe within a couple, you know, a couple pulls here as they get started
for the morning. But there's kind of still a lot to learn, Jack, on this Boss that
we're still working through.
Yeah, you can see them moving through their positioning. And of course, as the bond
as the big debt nations throughout the encounter
in the first phase are increasing in damage every time.
You can see how much more easily players
are falling apart, dying, and the need for defensive,
personal, anything with the kitchen sink
to survive is going to be assigned there,
is going to be used there,
and then we're gonna have to kind of see
what the intermission is going to be bringing for us
because the space constraints on the fight
that they were already talking about are very real.
We've been able to see how they're adjusting
their web positioning, they're adjusting the liquefy, poison drops, all of those things
matter so much and you can just see from the very beginning how pixel stacked they are.
Yeah, they've also mentioned that that shield is I believe 10% of the boss' health which
is about a casual 800 million which is a lot of health when your raid is sort of fragmented,
you're almost running out of fumes at this first phase one, plus getting the boss
low-lower like this is timing based right is relevant we don't even sure how much
damage we need in this phase one meet the check in phase two or more phase three
and such so there's probably decent ways to go but we're getting there as far as
mechanics are concerned rates then pop in both those frost pools there's
staggering them properly after the first set there's another one there's
three and then you have to stagger those frosts I believe every second or
so check that's correct I'm pretty sure get the staggers every second to
not pop in both at the same time simultaneously.
They've also changed the cadence of phase one.
There's these webs that come out early on in the phase,
much earlier than Heroic.
So a lot of those stack lead profiles
that you've seen Hans doing a lot,
Frosty K's been doing a lot possibly at times as well,
on certain fights, like Vary Twister,
are also very relevant in the first phase
of this fight for that just strong lead profile.
As you can see, they have very limited amount of time
to be able to drop off those webs
or to drop off some of the bombs,
Get back into position and the webs themselves, those web lines can be really brutal for a
lot of the timings on the encounter too.
Here you can see they're spacing out some of those detonations so that they can get those
jumps and kind of alternating them at different times.
Yep, those three pools of wind coming out at the dodge right here from those three
individual frosts they probably mentioned.
There is that fast web overlap there pretty quickly as well.
You can see how tightly they're placing all these pools that Jack mentioned because
they want half the room or more available for the intermission because I haven't seen it.
So I will admit that from what I've heard, when the boss pulls you in and the intermission
it leaves webs under your feet.
Unlike how it does on Heroic which means you need as much room as humanly possible,
those webs hurt a lot and you're also dodging green, like large green pools coming at you
while finding new positions to work around the room in the intermission.
And like we said, 800 million health on a shield is a tremendous amount of health
the break at that point.
You can see Sang just trying to drop off his bomb
in the right location and just dying as a result.
The damage that it does to each of these players is obscene.
And it does a lot of splash damage to players
who are standing around them.
So we're getting propped on the first pull of the day
here.
Second pull?
Yeah.
Oh, OK.
So it's the actual shield base here.
So the whole reason of life here, you'll notice.
So Alistair's going to hang close and melee here.
But when it pulls players in, look at the pulls on the ground right there.
It drops a good bit with half the rate alive.
You can see how much room you need to do as an admission, right?
Sorry.
No, that's a great point out.
Oh, I jinxed it.
You did?
Oh, well, you didn't.
My bad.
No, but yeah, this is early progression.
I mean, it's just pull two, right?
Yeah, and Alice, you know, smiling.
I'm hearing them cheer a little bit.
I'm sure what that's about.
So, you know, vibes are good.
Yeah, it's early broad, right?
That's right.
And it's 9.20 in the morning.
It is.
I mean, you are the first skill to essentially reach this fight, right?
And we know ecosystem pulls on, I believe 71% made their best, probably seeing the intermission to a certain extent, but
You are the first skill here. So you're the one innovating trash at this point while Echo's re-clearing and you know
Gotta maintain that lead. I think it's time we go dark. I
Think it's time. I think it's back to bed. Don't jinx it, don't jinx it. We have to bring out the wheel
Let's play some
Bench. Yeah. Bench sounds great right now. Yeah, you know
I did just get word from them. They are gonna be heading to bed a little bit early, so
Also happy birthday Scott true it is Scott's birthday
We I feel really bad because Jack and I I saw we have a longer time to wake up in the morning
So we're already like energized and we're in like commentator mode and they come in kind of sleepy and I like
screamed at Scott like happy birthday, and I think I
was a little much it came out of a little much he had his dark ray bands on yeah
yeah he literally came around the corner if you said he was like like no
motion whatsoever I feel bad now I'm not sure if he's a morning person just like
Kalamazos you'd give me a cell with three hours wake up and then I'm okay
I blood flowing you know it I've always been a morning person I don't like
that I'm a morning person to be honest like I I don't know I wish I was more
of a night owl just because like that's kind of gamer culture but I don't have
a hard time waking up in the morning at all and I my brain can't compute that
some people like for a long time I thought they were just lying to me and
that they were like lazy I don't know which I know is false now but like I
don't know it's I'm not a morning person you're not I just adapt I
I can tell, yeah.
I am a chameleon.
Adapt, overcome.
Yeah, so I...
Fit my environment, I will mold around it.
I apologize for all the night owls out there, I...
No, that's fair.
I don't know why I'm like this.
I've gone to bed at like 6 a.m.
for the past 10 plus years
and gotten up like two or three.
I think that's more about what it is.
Is that people are just creatures of habit.
Yeah.
You have to like, drill yourself into a new habit
in order for it to work.
Cause that's what happened to be
for the first couple of days.
It was like I was just rough sleep schedule,
was trying to get used to the environment.
It's very dry here compared to Texas.
That's true.
And then once I got used to it, I was like, all right, cool.
Let's go.
There were a couple of times I was like, half hour early
for our call time, so they pushed it back
and I was just already up.
I was like, I'm up anyway.
Let's go.
So I'm just hanging out.
It's just me and Jared from production
for like half an hour waiting around.
I used to go to bed at like 7 PM every night.
I had to get up at four in the morning
to work at my old job.
I did it like five years.
It was that one of the Valley Park encores. Oh, okay. Call of the stuff and it was fine. They it just have it. Yeah, exactly
Yeah, well, I think there's also
Well, we're getting off topic or really fast, but that's okay because they're not doing it right now
That's right. I think it's also like
Genetically predetermined your circadian rhythm if you are more you function better in the time of day that you function
This is astrology. Is this like a time of the day that you're born determines your lifetime?
Whoa!
Whoa!
Naughty word!
Naughty word!
My ears!
Did you know Pluto's not a planet?
It's... they keep going back and forth.
It's like a super planet or something, right?
They can't determine...
A super planet?
A star or a planet or...
It's like a time dwarf planet, right?
I don't know.
Yeah dwarf planet, yeah.
I don't... I don't know.
Is our planet getting smaller?
The Earth is flat, Jack.
No, that's right.
Thank you, I forgot about that.
Yeah.
Alright, so I have a question.
Yeah, what's up?
It's very early in this process for progress, for those part.
We haven't seen the intermission, we haven't seen, or phase two, we haven't seen phase three.
I'm gonna ask Jack to call her right now. What date is boss die, Jack?
I need your prediction right now.
I think we got a Friday kill coming up.
Okay.
It's a truth. I think that this first phase is enormously brutal.
And while it's great seeing like 63% like they're almost halfway through there's a 10% boss health shield
That has to get through then they go into an intermission where they're not funkin on any boss
They're just killing off lots of ads climb stairs climb and webs
Then we're gonna have you know a final phase of killing off a bunch more ads
Right, so the boss health is you know, it's not the entirety of the encounter
I would say you might for example have them be on
63.58% and still be making a lot of progress on this fight, but the boss health doesn't tell the whole story
So get I would say if you're just tuning in you're not really used to a lot of these and
Boss progression modes that boss health is not everything and we'll also try to keep an eye on that encounter timer to better illustrate
They're actually making progress. They're actually, you know getting right there in the fight
They're actually seeing this other setup because we're gonna have moments where they're gonna have to kill off some of these priority ads the
intermission phase and that's going to be a big wall saying oh wow they killed it
but you don't see it on the boss health at all yeah for sure for sure even we
also don't know if they're gonna end up needing more damage in the first phase
of being time-based right you know I mean we pushed the boss at 30% last night
what I didn't mean to like stab you oh it's okay I just like on sir my tail
no tail on exactly yeah anyway I was gonna ask you when do you think the
boss does I was talking to the players come out this morning uh-huh
They said it's weekend.
Ooh.
But that could constitute a Friday.
I was going to say, is Friday the weekend?
That was a Friday after five o'clock.
It's the weekend, I'm afraid.
I was going to say, yeah, Friday after five.
I think that's a pretty safe guess.
Yeah.
Friday morning, Friday afternoon, possibly.
I mean, I think we'll know a lot more today.
It's Wednesday.
I mean, we have an entire day ahead of us here.
We had progression on our second pull, essentially.
I think we'll know a lot more towards you
than tonight.
It's doable that is for sure.
Well, I am sure.
Zaya, I have been going with Thursday just because it's convenient for me.
You know, the A WC technically starts today.
They what they call the offline games where they sort of have all the teams
that that signed up for A WC play in a bracket today.
And then they they compete all the way up to the top eight.
Those start today.
And then, yes, if it dies Thursday, that's good for me and it's good for
trill because he's gonna try and balance both today. Do you think that the
racer road first schedule is gonna be convenient around you?
You know, you know. Think back to Boston, Aya.
Yeah. Aya casting at a dark closet in the back.
Oh my gosh.
Literally killed bosses like while I was live on AWC. You can hear the cheers through
my camera. Mm-hmm. These are good times though.
We're fun. I think it's because a to b see something up. It's definitely not going to die
At the time you think it is. Yeah, it's just that a spike is happy to me
That's all right. I mean you're also not in this fight currently, which could change. Yeah, you're bringing that Monty buff
So we'll see where that goes in the long run
For sure
Imagine if Cheryl brings down a world first also brings down a WC
He would be really
Even more mister world warcraft yeah for yep, yeah, I could see it he did it before didn't he once
Didn't he win the race for a first at AWC in the same year?
Probably no again probably yeah, yeah
But yeah, no good luck good luck to him today. Yeah, but we do see them getting back into the east with the antirec pulls here
So, like I mentioned, the cadence of this fight in Phase 1 is different from Heroic.
You end up seeing these webs coming out a bit earlier.
Now you will see these double-froff pulls come down here, which we just saw a moment
ago.
The next set is going to have actually three in them.
You want to stagger them, basically a second apart, so you don't overlap and kill the
raid.
But you can see one thing here.
And that thing is how close they're keeping these web stacks with these green fail
pull stacks.
You want as much room as possible to fight this boss in the intermission, because
Whenever she pulls you in with her webbing, she'll place more webs into your feet.
Now we lost THC early on there and somebody else.
Probably go again angle here, but like Jack talked about a minute ago,
it's not just raw DPS and the boss here, raw percent, right?
You're going to get back to the intermission as long as you live long enough in this first phase,
but finding every little bit of room is going to be very, very important,
both for DPS optimization from the shield and just general survivability in the intermission, right?
So, might see a couple early wipes here depending on them shifting around some movement
all that but uh getting there we are getting there it's all coming together to note also is uh we
mentioned it a little bit earlier on in the morning show but echo is is still getting through their
re-clear um and they are stuck on princess at the moment yes they are this is the big challenge
i'd say for the guild's re-clearing at the moment is how efficiently can you do it
and what total item level are we getting as a result of all of the
Reclear, all the splits that have been done, because that makes a huge impact on just
the rest of the progress. You can see how much extra time is being spent.
And if I'm not mistaken, the first kill that we had out of Soakencourt was 622.1 i-level for Liquid.
Now, as they're beginning to pull, we non-zarek, they've been at plus 3 i-levels, 625.2, and that's right.
There we go, there we go.
One additional item level, and almost certainly like better itemization too.
Sometimes people are stuck with some mediocre trinkets, or like decent trinkets, but with decent i-level.
And now they probably have the upgraded and almost near-perfect items.
Yeah, I think Max said, I might have heard incorrectly, but I think last night he said they got four Mythic Spymasters in their vaults.
Which I mean we know TG got one funny enough. What's that?
Sorry. Oh, it's good. Yeah, that's excited. Oh, is it easily? Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm sorry. I'm saying whoo. No
Yeah, it's good TG
So they actually sat TG for the first boss all racks because he didn't need loot and they assumed we kill
70 bosses likely this week and then they ended up going a little late Monday night to kill mythic silkencourt for that
Well first that kill got THC his last vault slot
And also unlocked so can court everyone's loot people for them in THC's last slot
It was a mythic spy master's web so without killing that he wouldn't have gotten a mythic third slot
And it wouldn't have been a spy master as well. It was literally perfect like the stars aligned there
Yeah four across the rape plus one on a rekill. I'm one initial kill. I believe
It's looking pretty strong. Hey, I believe
maybe a bit of a spoiler here, but
Mages hard carried that burst on Silicon Court with Lust there. I think they hit her out four and a half to five million DPS with that big Lust burn, yeah.
So a lot of that's due to SpyMaster being an exceptionally strong trinket. One that will likely go down and it's one of the better ones you've seen in the last few years.
I love the control you have over it. I mean, like a 20 second cooldown to activate it whenever you like.
I hear you can see, of course, the Venom Frost is looking up some of the extra names for them.
They have the froths that are dropping under the ground.
You need to make sure that your team is using them to, of course, jump over the various Venomnovas
the boss is spewing out, but also that the Venomnova itself doesn't touch the froth,
detonating it, and of course, wiping the raid.
It's really important to, like, both space out everybody in the raid and split them up.
So first you have two of the froths, and you have to go 10 and 10,
then you have three, and then you have to go, you know, seven, eight, seven, seven, six,
right? Yeah, quick map, quick board map. Yeah, pretty good. Not too bad.
DiA4. Yeah, we did. Yeah, that, this looks insane. See, we haven't seen this 4th over
the whole lot. So we'll see them move the boss through here right now. We're gonna have the
Rape position, so we pop basically one at a time in quick succession. So we're gonna pop one here.
You have to pop one there. There's number two. Moving back a little bit. These individuals,
individual debuffs coming out if you spread it as well. There's one, two, three, and four, but you can see there's four waves of
tail coming out here. There's so much to dodge. All those ray damage as well.
But, that's also intermission. Again.
So, we're getting back to that choke point of needing to see his intermission more with the whole raid up.
But look at the room. It's covered in carpet.
How do you do that? I have no idea.
How do you look like... So I mean you...
Basically there's nowhere to go there after getting gripped in.
Yeah, I mean it's gonna be a really tight stack.
I want to be edges of all the webs you leave from the first part of phase one and then you just pray you push the boss fast enough.
Yeah.
But it's a massive shield, Jack.
It really is.
Thankfully there's only a couple of the rests, the grab mechanic that's gonna spawn those webs to begin with.
So you have probably three rests that they'll have to deal with there.
So they have some of the room but certainly this is gonna be the area for like immunities or yeah
High mobility classes like running into the webs getting rested running back something along those lines to maximize your space
Yeah, so she got those large green. I guess globules in the dodge coming out and you're in yeah small pie
Slice in the end the ones coming right at you. You're taking some web damage or you're dying basically
It's gonna be pretty intense and we also haven't seen the mission which I'm I'm curious about myself because I
I don't know how we'd work this but those grips on heroic are pretty strong
I'm curious what that's gonna if that changes at all mythic or how it's going to look I
I'm excited for it, but also a little curious what they even change in the first place
But I mean so what are the variances or I guess the differences between?
Phase one mythic and heroic we've got multiple froths right there's the cadence of webs and
There's a third one. I'm forgetting. Oh, it's the webs in your mission, right?
Yep, when you get pulled in webs for the intermission, so we're having more detonations happening right as well
I'm trying to
also keep in mind that there's increasing
detonations onto the raid as the lava waves or the venom waves are going out
You are having the raid damage pulsing out onto the group and with more frost as well
You have to deal with more of those explosions if to deal with higher explosion damage onto everybody
This makes it insanely difficult and that's really what's happening is that people are just getting like wombo combo'd right now
By the intense amount of damage going on at the very end of that first phase
Kind of couple that with not having like the perfect positioning
So you're getting some more web shit getting dropped off some more venom getting dropped off in positions that you need for the intermission phase
It's now it's a game to try to figure out how to survive
Are you surprised at all about the killer comp here double press priest paladin or is that not at all?
Honestly, not at all. I think that what we're gonna have is, you know, it's just double-pressed all the way down
Okay, I don't I do think that shaman's quite good for this fight as well
Okay, but that being said I think that
Where do you find the room? I guess is the thing right? Well, it probably even the holy paladin
Okay, the truth, you know shadow priest is not an option right now. I'm at the point one, but yeah, it's fair
I don't think it's great. I don't think it's the better options right. Yeah, do your fourth buff right
I think there's other better options that they could utilize or leverage at the moment, right?
Basically, I do think shaman is a pretty good selection if they wanted to drop the holy paladin
But with a high intense burst damage having the diva aura would be better than having the spirit link totems damage reduction at that point
On totem is like again pretty good
You give you increased stamina for the entire raid ancestral vigor downpour
there's a lot of stamina gains you can have on hand and it would go pretty well for
or mission healing, but I think Paladin is also a really strong option as well in these encounters.
There's a number of areas where everyone's really hard pixel stacked, which is really good for Sun's avatar,
which are the lines, the beams from the Herald of the Sun hero talent,
which kind of cut through your allies, healing them, dealing damage to enemies, things like that.
So it gets pretty good.
Okay, that's fair.
There's your Healer 101 talk, I'm just one of those words.
I am a little surprised to see Sang playing Devastation here though.
Which, I mean, we've had a lot of Demi-Vokers in the raid.
We had up to three, I think, for the first four bosses.
But I feel like the fights where you've had these Frosty Ks in,
they've been in because their profile is really relevant.
And they actually played, I believe they played one Og on both the Frosty K fights.
Which, I mean, it's just odd because typically in the past,
when you've won in one Og, you basically won in two.
Because two can essentially double amplify the value that, you know, they bring to whatever they're buffing, right?
They can have two Ebomites on them.
Frosty K has been a class that you've seen, saw it on Bird Twister, saw it on Silkencourt, saw it a couple of bosses before then too,
for that really strong breath-cleave profile, right? But on the bosses that are patchwork-based, like Kai-Veza, sort of like, I guess,
Sigra in a sense, weren't seeing a whole lot of play. This fight's got a lot of, you know, private damage,
AUE in the first phase, on roots, AUE in admission, and likely a lot of AUE in phase three.
Yeah, still that interesting dev split, which is, uh...
I just, I mean, I don't like it.
Yeah, not from like a they're doing making the wrong choice, but just like I don't know. I want my damage, man
Time was my spot. He lives in the parade. I see me. Sorry. I didn't mean to
Sammy's here. This is this is fantastic news. Hey, morning. Come hang out with us morning. Come here
Come here. Let me
Come here
I can't help with this one. I oh, no, no, no, not me. Not me. Not me. What wrong person
I'm on the couch. I've seen her do it. Yeah, but I love that
Woof woof.
There's too many cords over here right now.
What's that?
A dog woof.
Woof.
Yeah.
It's outboard.
Well, yeah, but what was that from?
Is that one of us?
That was me woofing, yeah.
Yeah, it was his woof.
That was that old actually.
He ain't got no gas in it.
Oh, man.
So, keep quiet.
We did read clear.
And we're back on the Queen Onzerek.
We got plus three item levels compared to our Sylvan Court kill, so we were 622
on the Sylvan Court kill.
Now we're at 625 as we've gotten into the intermission phase for Onzerek
couple times at this point a
Matter of getting everyone to survive. Yeah, also a big thing here
We have Vantage runes boss, which we did not have on token court. We ended up ruining Kybeza
Due to that insane DPS check it needed a one tank
So we basically sent most I think most crafts have been sent to each made brave for some pretty sure I
Think we were farming trash packs for a while for BUB yesterday
I think most of the juice has been sent in the sense what you have here
which is what you're gonna get. You might have some M plus you can do for like maybe some guilty crests for upgrades,
but I mean, I'm pretty sure the players and then of sending guilty crest on like
heroic pieces of relevance like spy monsters, webs, mag queens, mandates,
larger tier pieces that they can get in for example like chested helm.
I think what you see what you get here for the most part, maybe boring couple splits for rare items.
Yeah, I don't think they were going to 626 total item level, maybe you know,
Fragion of a total eye level for the raid gets increased like you mentioned if they didn't get all their gilded crests from the
Reclear something like that
But we're back into the mix and it'll be great to see what they have in store
I think we are also having the renewing blazes that can be applied to other players from the preservation of ochre
They have a flame-shaper hero talent where you can cast renewing blaze onto an ally for half strength
It kind of like looks at what damage you've taken in the last three or four seconds and then feels you for a percentage of that
That's gonna be really insane for this tank buster that goes out because based off the damage the boss deals with the tank buster
It also puts up bat absorb on to them
Yeah, very much so so we see these two throth pools being popped here
This was basically the same as heroic where you have the pop one and two
And quick succession with two waves of dodge here, but this is where the fight gets pretty intense
So you see them dragging the boss all the way back in the webs there for this just really good fail pool placement trying to stack as much as possible in one part of the room and
Then once you get that done you have another set of webs coming in plus you're gonna have those prof pools
Going to three and to four and to five which makes things exceptionally tough when you're running out of space in this room
Having more webs come out
But it's not really a damaged thing we've seen players going down early to for off pools here a bit
Which I think it's just more getting the cadence down and getting the
precise precarious positioning down as well which it's like an intricate dance
we do indeed lose Nick here he should have a ransom available so we can get
him back up pretty fast here you see these three pools coming out in the
back so they're gonna pop one to the tank running over there should pop one
basically about now one pop two pop that they're much pop right about now
getting three debuffs splitting out of the raid there dodging these pools
from the back bathing swirl is here and we do indeed lose Nick again we
We can probably go for a bit longer here.
Maybe a little bit, and of course, this is just
the early bowls, the early attempts.
One of the things that happens, I notice,
a lot of times, the waves, is you kind of have to, like,
into it where those waves are going to be going
to adjust your position, because it's very difficult
to see through the boss.
And so sometimes when you can't see
where they start on the other side of the boss,
sometimes they just run straight face first into you,
and then you're struggling to find
where you want to position.
So this area is super important to figure out how you can position yourself to see everything
and then you're able to sort of adjust your position ahead of time
and then sit there focused on your healing.
Or if you'd be able to see around her more in arachnophobia mode.
What would they turn her into with arachnophobia mode?
Like a big dumb default crab or something?
Maybe, yeah, I don't know.
That'd be pretty sick.
But if that's an issue...
We should have a big crab boil if we win.
What?
A crab boil.
Oh, that'd be great.
That'd be good, yeah.
That's a swamp let's go
Have a good big bucket of crab and corn
It's a corn potatoes crab
Let's go send it look like shrimp, right? Isn't there? Yeah, you shrimp in there as well. It's crimps
Scrimps. I don't know lemons. I don't I never had a crab boy. I was gonna say oh, they're great. They're good
Yeah, I worked at a seafood restaurant for like six or seven years. Oh, yeah, there you go
of wreak the fish when I got home.
Yeah, parents made us like strip down in the garage and leave our clothes out there.
Oh no, is that bad?
Yeah, they're like, they're not coming into the house with that.
Oh my gosh.
I had to leave my shoes outside too from Chick-fil-A.
They were just, yeah.
Like chicken?
Uh, there's a lot of stuff on the floor.
Oh.
Yeah, so, yeah.
Just like his boss actually.
Yeah, the floor is lava.
True.
Very true.
True. Yeah, I've noticed I feel like correct me if you I don't know if you guys think I'm wrong
But like it seems like this tier in particular like in previous in previous years
It seems like it takes them like at least a couple hours to kind of get
warmed up and like the be playing at their at their tippy top
But like we're already seeing Prague and it's only 945. Yeah, what they're doing
This time around like they must be sleeping well or something
I would say sleep is making a very large
impacting in the entire race to World First.
We've had a few different times where Liquid's gotten up slightly later,
you know, 30 minutes later, an hour later, something along those lines.
They've really set a very consistent schedule for themselves.
We've not been staying up late.
There's been times where they've said,
we will, like on Soakin' Court on Monday,
they said, we're going to kill this boss,
we're going to make sure that we do,
because the advantages are massive.
Right.
we've seen they got it on I believe around 1111 30 something like that yeah it was a really close to end time which yeah
They're standard end time. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean those are the calls you make man
If they work out those are the calls it win the race
But it's also the calls it can lose the race if you push too far and mess everything up
I mean those are risky I take they are I mean there's a time and a place to
Really burn the can at both ends and part of that you have to make the decision based on for your current performances
it's kind of heartbreaking on the side of method that they said we have to sit
here buckled down and clutch this kill out because of how vital it is and how
important it is and so while it might feel that they're gonna be even a little
further behind as they take a little bit longer to get that kill I think if they
even get if they had gotten a good night's rest and then they go into
the re-clear gotta keep in mind Echo last I checked was still working on
getting their princess kill yeah they're still working on it at the
moment so on the side of method they have an opportunity right there if
If they execute cleanly on the Re-Kill, there is a lot of opportunity to make sure they get back into the game,
to make up for how much longer it took them on Silken.
It's quite interesting because a lot of the previous Raid tier Re-Clears, Amir just till Aber is Vault,
even going back to like Sepulcher and things, they really weren't that bad, right?
And that's a universal term, or I guess a statement from Evergill, right?
But maybe Sepulcher was a little sketchy depending on certain bosses like Raigalon,
but Kivesa didn't get altered.
She wasn't nerfed health-wise,
they didn't change the one-tank strategy,
and guilds might have killed her with one tank last week.
Maybe you say, oh, a recent, a gear comes in, it's a little easier,
but you also have, every guild vent has ruined that boss last week, right?
So coming into it, most guilds, I mean, they're all still one tanking it,
needing that one perfect pull from the stars line to kill that boss.
And that was the big thing we talked about on Monday,
is we need a clean re-clear.
We need to get these bosses dead quickly. Brute Twister got changed a bit, but still not a full pushover.
Kyvesa needs to die in a pretty quick pull count.
And Silkencourt also had a pretty big question mark, because, well, it wasn't a super tight DPS check.
Mechanically, it's one of the bosses that you can still just basically scuff quickly with a missing of the spell,
missing a route on the charge, right? But thankfully, we had a pretty good Reclear.
Reclear is also, they can very easily make or break, you know, a race to the world first.
And, uh, I think we locked in for it, but we'll see what the rest of them go.
Yeah, we'll certainly look to have them now.
You never count on Echo, ever.
No, definitely not.
It's a big mistake.
I mean, it would be interesting to see Method pull ahead.
I'm trying to see where they are right now.
They might be starting later today.
They're probably active now.
Yeah, they are.
I'm sure they did start earlier, though.
It was very late, but I noticed they were still pulling.
Yeah.
I went to bed, I'm pretty sure, and they were pulling until a minute ago, so yeah.
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You know, are you denying her some of that?
Oh, I'm sure we'll be able to get up to use it for her.
No, she wants to sit next to you.
Have her sit next to you.
Well, that's room at the computer, I don't think.
Yeah, we're a little.
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Can we have more much here in the room?
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Oh, my goodness.
Hi.
Hello, Pima.
Hi there.
How have you been today?
I'm wearing all black.
You're going to get your hair all over me.
I like how the couch progressive
gets more and more free with hair from the top.
It does, yeah.
Where he goes.
I know.
Yeah, so, and one thing about this fight, Jack, as well, is I feel like phase one, as far as the hero is concerned,
I feel like phase one is arguably the most difficult part of this fight, until maybe later on in phase three, right?
Intermission is sort of like a, I can breathe, kind of point, right?
But phase one, when all these broth drops, these webs, and also that shield at the break, which is very large of mythic,
I'm curious if they get through phase one here, or start getting through a bit cleaner.
How difficult phase two is it going to be? We're not sure what to expect, I'm
thinking mechanic-wise, but yeah like we mentioned, I mean I'm thinking Friday, but
same time thought Siliconcourt could was gonna be 300-ish poles and that fight
was much easier when you get to later parts of the cave-wise. Certainly. I think
this early part of the fight is really insane because there's so many
different mechanics that can just kind of pick away a raid member or two and
then before you know it you're missing like three or four people and
You don't have the damage to break out the shield or you're having players dropping off
debuffs in odd spots or something like that and then you don't really have an avenue to
get out of that intermission phase with enough space around the room.
You can see how difficult it is just to place enough of the debuffs, the liquefied mechanic
of course spreading more poison around the room and already two players down.
Yeah, placement super curious too seeing Nick Bate weighing the back for that poison
drop, having to shift all the way in for that web drop in the front of them as well, like
movement is just so precise here, but I mean you need to be because if you run out of room
you have no where to really do that intermission, which is, I mean we said this boss we saw it
had 7.5 million health or billion, I'm sorry, which, I mean it's less than, it's less
than kind of as a right, exactly, but this boss also has a 10% shield, which is basically
a billion, it's 800 million, you've got all the ads in your mission plus a handful
as in phase 3. So you're looking at basically probably like a 9 or 10 billion health boss here,
but that's a problem for later liquid. Right now it's just surviving his first phase, which is
proving to be a bit of a struggle, but still early on in the day.
Oh, that rest. The entire rave getting pulled towards the boss and then just instantly dying.
They've got more space though. If you check it out, they have a lot more space
than they did on their first intermission push before.
Yeah, positioning wise, looking a lot better at this point.
And keep in mind, whenever you get pulled in, you can see here, a large portion of that room is webs.
I feel like those large spell globs are pretty big as well.
So finding a spot between both those arrests, those webs, and those spell globs is gonna be challenging.
But depending on what we're gonna be doing here, probably committing lust this shield I would expect.
Actually, yeah, committing lust right there.
Obviously not breaking it here.
It's got to try and live as long as possible for timers and things though.
I bet you're saving the next hour so we see a shield break.
I'll go that far.
Ooh.
Sure.
Next two hours.
Uh, final answer?
Yeah.
On our shift, yeah.
All right, all right.
On our shift.
Flip it and ship it.
What determined moving into the intermission?
Time.
Yeah, it's duration based.
So that's one of the big things, too,
is mechanically we're getting to a point
where we're more, gotta be more consistent,
but we're not sure what the threshold essentially
is in the boss in phase 1%-wise
that you really want to kill it, right?
Because, I mean, we pushed normal last night
And my guild split runs like 29% on the boss going into that but they're like 70
68.5 right there going into that so all the damage you can do matters
I think that's really cool when it comes to fights like this where you're trying to max every little phase not alright
70% pushing to stop damage stop damage. No every little bit matters, right? I love that. Yeah
I love that it's a huge thing
I'm a fan of on especially in Boston counters of making sure every single bit of damage is relevant and is important and
And honestly, they might have to be saving some damage in the first phase just to break the shield.
So that could be another critical point of,
okay, they may not hit 63.5% on the boss again,
but they would pull up enough of their damage
just so that they would be able to kill and break that shield move on.
Yeah, you have to. I mean...
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There's some pushing.
You've got a date with Zalatath coming up.
That's 20K?
A 20K?
Yeah.
I don't know anything about it, but Ted also said he was excited.
Yeah, I think Ted also claimed that one immediately.
He locked it on that one.
His words not mine.
I think he said he's desperate.
Oh my god.
I want that.
Maybe he's a foot guy.
I don't know.
Love's in the air.
Yeah, you know, you're at the Alienware Training Facility, almost he's like...
Yeah, definitely.
Nice record.
He's still in bed, he can't respond, it's alright, he won't hear it.
Just get a bunch of pings in the morning.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, god.
I don't like that emote.
Yeah.
Which emote?
Oh no, oh god.
The Zalli Toes, I guess.
Oh, yeah, well, damn it.
I like the Zalli Blod, we have that one?
I don't know.
I'm not sure what it is actually.
T is she runs my emotes in my channel. I don't know what that's mistake. Yeah, whatever
Whatever he puts up is what's there. I don't know this point
Yeah
This Chattarino has like 50 tabs in it this point. I want it. I want that I do want that
I don't want that it's too much. Yeah
It's too much I do have Zara on my emotes
Okay, yep, but take care of mine
Lots of Joel's
Lots of Joel's
Zyra was jolting back in both of the Incarnates, I'm pretty sure and he's still doing it now
I'd say it's a very proper remote. Yeah
Evolution of the Jol's yeah, you know warlock thing and being chaotic and just not a warlock. Huh? He's not a warlock. He's a mage
Wasn't he a warlock? I love him. He was but he's abandoned us for a while. Oh
See okay. She's a bandit us. Maybe that's for the best
out I mean
Did you want to claim him?
Honestly, of the three of you, he seemed the most sane.
That is the biggest insult I've ever had.
No, no. Of like, THD and Zyro and Kalamazie.
Yeah, seriously, you're still insulting me, okay.
Speaking of personality and stuff, did you ever do that lawful good stuff?
No, we've still got it up. If we want to get through it while they're just kind of chain-wiping here, you can do that.
do that I'm production hand me a lint roller smart very kind of them yes so if
you're hearing weird noises that's what's going on here what is this lawful
good thing oh we're gonna die I set up an alignment chart for all of the cast
or whoa this is a cool wind roller okay yeah you want to do it you do it up to
you yeah plenty of time that's right we have another the time as they're
trying to figure out how they can make sure they keep everybody alive before
they get into that intermission one of the weird things they have to do is
They probably have to go figure out how they can start surviving some of the first bursts from those frosts.
Right.
Of course, you drop the froth off and then you later explode, dealing big damage to the entire raid.
They kind of figure out a way to make sure that they're surviving those and also getting as few stacks as possible.
I believe it's based off how many people are like splitting up and going into like the frosts and getting knocked up into the air,
determining how many stacks is being dealt to the raid.
Yeah, which I mean you talked about them splitting it basically like I think seven, no
nine and nine or something like that roughly in the first two, but you have to split it more
when you get third froth and fourth froth as well which there's not enough time to like shift
the different ones plus your debuffs and all that. They're popping them basically a second apart
to dodge that massive wave from Queen so yeah it's hard to say but damage wise looks to be
pretty demanding both from the boss and the DPS check but we've seen them at points in the
in the past, find damage, like raw damage on bosses where they shouldn't have before.
Moving cooldowns around, getting more used to the fight as well, just pull-wise, right?
You can find little ways to optimize damage, defensive usage, all that, and things come
together just even with raw pulls, right?
Certainly, and there's always that priority for all the Raiders, and like how are they
best able to survive some of these pulls, they might, like we mentioned, start pulling
some damage from like when cooldowns are returning at the end of the first phase,
into the enemy ship they might pull something up to like better dps the shield and a lot of times when
you're progressing on these early encounters for like the world first environment you are kind of
stacking a lot of defenses on top of each other just to make sure that you're able to survive that
one point right and once you survived it you can start pulling things away and then make an
adjustment from there all right well you guys ready for this all right let's do it we're gonna
do an alignment chart for i'm not very good at this because i don't play dnd so
I'm not sure maybe they can help us wait does anyone has anyone ever done one of these? I've seen them. Oh boy, okay
I've taken like the tests and stuff. We need a D&D nerd up here
So who should we start with?
I'm gonna just go we just start with Kalamazee
Jack 100% lawful
Okay, I can't give it in
I can't help with this one right like it is me. I can't add the input here. Dang correct
Dude, the whole chat's got me already
Hey out of evil wait so wait what which one are you Jack they say I'm awful good
lawful good whoa yeah dude new paint is crazy okay hold on that talks like a
pallet oh I have no idea what okay there we go lawful good yeah yeah I'll go
with that I agree
Oh, a little good.
Top left.
OK.
Wait.
OK.
I'm, wait.
Oh, I'm grabbing it.
I'm having a little struggle.
Production is laughing at me.
I'm having a little struggle there.
Production is laughing at me.
I should have put this up.
They're laughing at me.
Stop.
There we go.
There you go.
Oh, OK.
They're not laughing at me.
They're good.
Everyone.
OK.
Where do I go?
You are, you, will you steal Tabasco bottles?
True.
You're chaotic.
I didn't get the point of the story at all.
I don't need to know the point.
It's not stealing!
It's not stealing, okay.
Well, let's move on. Are there any others that are...
Are there any in here that are, like, obviously...
Oh, there's a production, by the way, down here.
This is what we've got right here.
What is the one in the bottom left corner?
What is that one?
The box, something evil? What is that?
Chaotic evil.
Yeah, so it's basically, like, following the rules.
So cat... Oh, it's lawful evil.
Okay, I see. Okay.
Do we think production is Chaotic evil?
No, Xyro is chaotic evil.
I think Cal is chaotic neutral.
Okay.
Okay.
He will not do bad things, but he'll kind of do a bit of everything.
No, that's a different box, middle row.
Middle row.
I am chaotic neutral.
Wait, chaotic neutral.
Chaotic neutral for Cam?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
Okay, okay.
I think Cam's neutral.
Oh, sorry.
It's okay.
Wait, who is going where?
I'm killing me.
I should not have it.
We'll get the most chaotic neutral?
Pink skills.
I'm chaotic neutral, I think, yeah.
You're chaotic neutral.
I think that's right.
OK.
I think chaotic neutral.
All right.
OK.
For Call of the Good.
Cams, true neutral.
Cams, true neutral?
Yeah.
Chad, do we agree with that?
I think we would have it in chaotic boxes,
as if it's going to happen here, actually.
I don't know if we're going to be able to put everyone
in one thing.
We likely won't be able to.
But we are indeed getting back into poles again,
nothing but the antirexting,
how precise they're keeping these both webs
and froth drops stacked here,
both being dropped in the back room here,
almost overlapping with the webs there.
Actually, they are overlapping with the webs.
So you're gonna see the boss being pulled into the web here
to bait these basically poison drops, right?
And a quick line there.
Liquid spy.
Yeah, there we go.
Which do leave some pools behind,
gonna have some webs coming in here as well,
getting right up against those previous liquid spy drops,
to drop those webs in a great place.
I had to hang in that a little bit in front of the raid,
At the end of the world, you can sort of find spots.
What's that?
I believe that he blinked, ultratimed,
and then that caused him to drop his web out.
Oh, yeah.
At the spot he landed, basically.
Yeah, correct.
Interesting, OK?
Yeah, these mages, no other class can do that.
Disgusting behavior.
But regardless, it works.
So we do have second set of parathas coming in here,
which is going to be that triple drop.
So we're going to stagger it, basically,
one, two, three, popwise here,
split in the rate a bit more than we have in the second drop.
Dropping those frockballs on the ground here as well, followed quickly by, I believe, another web drop, which, like I mentioned, there's not much room for error here, but you're doing a pretty good job at saving space, dragging the boss back in the web again here, do indeed lose both dridings in here.
One res available might be held for a healer, days are after, also go down, and there's just so little room for error in this first phase of how tight the strategy is.
Yeah, but it really is not much space for air, you can't really have any of these deaths.
And this is also an area where it's looking at how do you map out everybody's defensive
so it's the exact same thing every time.
The plus side of it is that the only real areas where there's a little bit of RNG
in terms of who gets targeted is really dropping these froth mechanics off.
That being said, they have the weak order to automate where they need to go.
You can also start utilizing your tank externals for those moments and then having people pooling their defensives
Really for the end of this fight as the various toxins are going off you can see when the void
Acid wave is touching the broth the big bubbles you're seeing made out of the poison
They detonate and just wipe out the entire raid. Yeah, so and the reason they're putting them in a line there Jack
That's because they want to dodge the one coming like the the eruption coming from the boss
They also have to be staggered correct right a second or so pop wise to not double-debote the rig and kill everyone
So it's a it's a precise balancing act because having four makes things pretty intense
But right around there should be the push in intermission sixty point nine percent pull there
They're surprising getting more consistent at that point in the fight. It's just seeing it a bit longer
Certainly, all right true neutral for cams. Yep
Okay
Squished.
Uh...
Yeah, obviously.
Sorry.
I have my head...
Alright.
He can out there.
Let's see, any of that or...?
I would say...
Dr. Atnos.
Okay, got it good?
Okay, got it good, yeah.
I think so.
Okay?
Yeah, I think for sure for him.
Okay.
I think it was photo.
Okay.
Um...
Squish.
Squish.
Hmm...
Neutral evil.
Who thinks...
It's not in Xyro, right?
for which one neutral evil in the bottom I he's definitely on that bar
somewhere neutral evil yeah yeah I agree with this I agree okay I mean I feel
like Teddles has to have some kind of evil in him I think the lawful evil
So it's Aya and makes who's lawful neutral and who's neutral good. It's like the same thing basically, right?
Who follows the rules the most chat, that's really
They're like very I think kind of like don't they like rules and structure
I think I don't want I don't think so
Well, that's where they have no rules exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, she's she wouldn't be lawful should be neutral, right?
All right, I think I think makes is neutral good likely okay
But it's like my opinion. Well, I guess I guess that's the other thing is who would have who would be more chaotic
Chaotic would be the less lawful, right?
Hmm
Should we put it to a yeah, so we need a between I it makes who's more chaotic? They're not fully chaotic, right because it'd be
They would be neutral, they'd be kind of in between.
I kind of feel like, makes it be lawful neutral, and then Aya would be neutral good.
Oh yeah.
People are saying, wow.
Yeah, I think Aya has a bit more chaos, because she would, not like full chaos.
Yeah, okay.
It would be kind of like in between.
Okay, so wait, where does that put me then, here?
You would be neutral good.
Okay.
Oh, what the hell?
Oh no, Aya.
My bad, my bad.
I don't know, there's her chaotic neutral over here.
Alright, I'm not going to squish me.
No, I'm just going to squish me.
There we go.
Why is Jack going to squish down?
Don't squish me.
Alright.
And then Makes, we're going to put her in lawful neutral.
I think that's pretty accurate.
Raiders are heading in.
I think so too.
I think so too.
I like how the entire chat just called me in lawful good right from the beginning.
Like 20 people.
I think so too.
What were you about to say?
Nothing.
What were you about to say?
Nothing.
Anything.
Oh man.
Alright Jack.
They didn't see earlier last night Jack banging on my door at four in the morning for a popcorn
party to watch Die Hard.
Oh no.
That's yourselves who got that.
Alright well you know.
I guess I won't include you in my hobbies.
I could have so I had a xyra and I are next to each other room wise.
I heard some banging around. I think I was dreaming. I think I dream that Zaraq trying to break into my room
like three in the morning last night. I taken this sleep medication the last few days, and it's
had some wild dreams.
What were the dreams you had? Tell us about these dreams. I remember I was just stressed for a whole dream.
Like a few days ago. I was fighting something for like six hours. Like I can combat.
I don't know what it was. I woke up stressed out, didn't breathe,
I wasn't having a stroke, I was just, you know, just spitting breathe, and the chat's gonna ask, and I don't know, it's just all been chaotic stuff.
I think even race related yet, which is crazy.
I think this boss might bring on some, some anxiety though at some point in the long of this phase one go.
When you're doing something for like a really long time,
and then you finally go to sleep, and you're still doing it in your dream, and it almost feels like you can't go to sleep.
Like you can't rest.
Oh, yeah. I've had reoccurring dreams like I close my eyes and they start up again.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Like I remember after MDI over a long days of observing, I would observe in my sleeve. It was awful.
Yeah.
It's not fun.
Or I had a couple weekends of casting where the shows would be 14 hour days and I'd be...
I like my brain couldn't rest and be like, oh, you gotta get to the next segment.
I had a dream that we got very cleanly out of phase one, and then we got the in-emission phase.
And we were crushing it.
Yeah! Something bigger.
I think it brings some reality soon here, honestly.
I mean that is always the hope for everybody that their dreams become a reality. I hope your dream come true too Cal.
Probably not, but I...
Well actually I'd hope that your dreams don't become a reality because it's healthy you have a lot of nightmares so...
Yeah well, most of them are reality actors so that's a thing.
I hope you're good dreams.
Yeah me too. One day.
And four deaths.
Going into the intermission phase but still it's a lot cleaner than we had seen previously so...
I'm going to chalk this up as a decent little bit of fraud coming into it, even if the health percentage is not going to be the lowest that we've seen.
Just keep in mind, the boss would have a 10% health shield during this intermission phase that must be broken in order to move on to the encounter.
So you might just have a few of these phases that would get you further in the fight, even if the health is lower.
Yeah, you do see them committing less to you. Most of the rate is dead. They're probably not going to be able to break this shield, roughly 10% in the boss's health.
But one thing to note there, they had a pretty clean push.
If you look at that burst grip and they are incredibly stacked in one direction,
saving every little bit of room possible on the boss here for those grips you're going to have,
I believe I would venture against probably three in this intermission when the entire raid is alive.
Maybe a little more, a bit less, less committed, but either way, they're getting more consistent.
This is one of the points you brought up as well with that pull being at 66.2%,
the best being 6-3.5, but it's not a clear indicator of what is good.
What's the progression point, what's not, right?
I think chances are probably pretty high.
They're pulling cooldowns off the boss for that shield at this point.
They're committing lust there, probably holding some CDs for that shield,
because the next prog point is getting that shield down
and seeing what that phase two looks like when the raid ports to,
you know, left and right parts of the room.
What are the adds like? What's the grip like?
Is there an extra ad? Is there an extra bridge?
We don't know but we're getting closer closer to that point. So hopefully the next hour or so
Well, yeah, we'll see face to this fight
There's a look at the final chart
I squished your face to Jack no
chat, how'd we do?
I think we did good. I've never played this game. So you think I should tweet it
Okay, I'll tweet it cams has some
chaotic neutral or a chaos to him but I don't know that's why he's true neutral
yeah a bit of following the rules better not following the rules that's fair
that's fair a bit of evil I guess I guess yeah I'm just throw a random joke
out of left field and surprise everyone once in a while so he probably
exactly yeah you gotta just surprise everybody mm-hmm yeah that's for sure
So, Rila, I'm curious to get Cam's take on this actually, maybe if we have Dr. Atos build
one later on too and compare the two.
Oh yeah, I think I can control Z until the end here.
I am not going to be Q out of control on that one, I'm going to be like pure evil.
I guess that would have been good is that everybody could make their own alignment
chart and if we could have like compared notes.
Yeah.
I like that, that's fun.
I think if you compare me to the average Florida man, I'm actually pretty... normal.
You haven't made the news yet, so...
Well, you know, there's plenty of time. I'm only 33, so...
Right.
Let me go up on your dreams.
Most accurate alignment chart.
Also, apparently we do have the chart from Boston, because this is apparently recycled content that we've already done.
Oh.
Okay.
All right.
So where was I at?
Cams is also true neutral again!
Wow, I flipped around.
That's good.
And, uh, makes us also neutral good.
Okay.
I was chaotic neutral back then.
Yeah, I'm lawful evil, you see?
Look at that.
Interesting. Wow, we really flipped around here.
Ah, I was close.
Okay.
Cams neutral and lawful evil are almost one of the same, I feel like.
Yeah.
Like...
Where'd they bind that bit of lore?
That's crazy.
Yeah, that one looks way nicer too.
Yeah, we learned a lot more.
We know each other a little better now.
That was pre-COVID. We all aged 20 years throughout that too.
So is that pre-COVID? Boston?
Huh? Is that pre-COVID?
That was post-COVID.
Oh, it was post-COVID. Oh my gosh.
Yeah, no COVID. I remember learning about COVID.
The end of, I want to say, my Lotha.
It was my Lotha.
Yeah, I remember it being discussed on the tram.
on the tram in the airport in Florida.
Yeah, back home.
We had one tear at home during Christmas time.
Yeah, in Atria, which is yeah,
that was a little bit of a race to be had history,
actually. Yeah, it's pulling simultaneously side by side,
very similar to a mirror to sell.
Imagine if that one was in person.
That would have been that would have been crazy.
He died.
It we won while I was grocery shopping,
like it was so anti-climactic for me.
Huh?
Shouldn't we read some food?
I should have. I should not have left, yeah.
Should not have left.
Yeah, sorry.
I left for our Kibiza kill.
Oh yeah, really?
Yeah, that was low.
Yeah, we were already in bed when the Supreme Court kill came through.
I was here actually, but oh you guys were.
Wait, wait, wait, wait a moment.
Can we review?
Who filmed the Caster POV?
We have that.
I know it's on Twitter.
Yeah.
We've got to analyze the popup.
You see Cal's tweet?
I did, yeah.
I wrote that.
Oh.
I think that.
Oh, nice.
With the McDonald's machine, actually.
I don't know if you wrote that.
I did.
You might have said it, but I typed it out.
Okay, yes.
Alright, so you are lying.
I dictated it to you.
Yeah, it was pretty good.
It's honestly a pretty good gift.
I think it's pretty solid.
It's like a Renaissance painting.
The more you look, the more that there's going on.
Oh, yeah.
The more that is going on that you can discover.
Yeah, well, speaking of things going on, look, this is going to be almost, so this is the
last quad drop of frost here.
We have both Dronea and Zevi down, but if we can make it through this, this will be a
relatively clean push in the air mission.
There's so much damage in the raid here with these pre-pops coming out, which is insane.
This over that here is super nasty too, so you have to wait to go to your pool until
the web expires and then get into one of four.
And in quick succession before they all end up popping, because you've got to
put that amongst the raid relatively evenly right but look at this this is a
push in admission with four people dead jack this might be oh come on the people
are so low in that grip comes out though we have less being committed here though
well oh that's a great drop location wait yeah he died from jumping off the
edge there right just a damaged event I do damage going out okay yeah the
damage is for me it's so real yeah I mean this is probably cleanest push
they've seen into the mission though 65.1 actually in the boss here a bit lower as well
lost being committed also we're not gonna be breaking the shield but I mean
we're getting back to this point almost every single pole yeah getting more
consistent which is what you want to see right especially this early in the
day yeah really take their time between poles right now and then within the
actual poles we're seeing them wipe on purpose when they know it's not quite
going well which is also kind of interesting you know it seems like
There's not really much they need to learn at this time.
They're kind of just trying to nail down the mechanics within the first portion of the fight.
I mean, it's tough, right?
Because, obviously, you were the first skill to hear both Echo and Liquid have pulled from this boss.
I've met the Tetsum as well, to clarify.
But you are the first skill making progress as far as the boss.
So you want to discuss points of relevance.
Echo is still working on Nexus Princess, but you also know that, like,
they're not that far behind.
So you don't want to waste excess time harping on things.
You don't need to harp on it between poles how this person died to a web. Okay, great move on, right?
So it's about finding that balance you're in the lead now, but you know once again
It's you never cannot echo because they find these weird swings of energy and vengeance and come back just like they've done it before
They can do it again. Yeah, right, but uh
Yeah, I mean
Fast-case scenario was basically re-clean last night getting a full day on
on Cleanshrek here, and not coming in having to kill Slip and Court without looming over
your head away.
We're getting a full Cleanslake coming in and seeing his progress early on is very, very
good to see, very promising.
So hopefully an intermission soon enough with a broken shield.
Yeah, broken shield and intermission.
Got a couple of questions.
Where are people dying the most?
Usually when they have the froth getting dropped off, those are also going to
be triggering detonations onto the raid a little bit later on.
sense it goes two then three and then four of the frost that you have to
detonate it also is increasing and ramping up the raid damage that everybody
is receiving and so usually you're having a lot of those deaths after those
frosts are going off and they're detonating onto the raid and really
just leading to just not enough stamina not enough defensive value to keep
everybody alive at that point. Yeah interesting thing here is that they've
already committed Vanthas for instance boss there's none left in the raid
You've already advanced this fight, you've already done.
They probably have a handful of splits left for maybe some rare items if they want a gear
of character up.
Probably a couple heroic and shurex if need be for some tier tokens.
Maybe like a third DK, second team hunter, if they want a different damage profile.
But yeah, for the most part, unless you need some yielded crest to push maybe a couple
more pieces up a little higher from M+, this is probably what you've got for ability-wise,
damage-wise this week for the most part.
she form BOEs but I guess you can't even anymore because we're 7 out of 8. That's right all the trash is gone. There's no... Well I'm still here. That was pretty bad.
You're good the best. Okay. Well, get up as early. Okay. That was in chat, you know. Probably laying in bed. He's probably all snuggled up. Yeah.
Between this poll, while they're discussing what they want to do for the next one, let's take a look at some transmogs that were submitted from the viewers.
Kill.gg slash rwf-donate $30 and you can have your transmog rated on stream.
And here's the first one, a Morgan.
I find a negative aura for the Morgan.
Oh, it got wings.
Death cupcake battle royale.
Interesting.
Okay.
Hmm.
I...
Two.
Nah, that's mean.
Four.
What?
Yeah, this is like I don't love working. This is a race that I forget exists. I think most actually feel it
Work into the tails
They're not tails. They're werewolves. They had tails, right? I thought they did, but I don't
I'm gonna give this a four. I come on. Listen might be a Morgan a little biased here. I think it's like a
I guess 7-1. Okay. I like the purple thing going on. The weapon is not fully matching. 7-1 I think though. 7-1.
You're a silk singer. Yeah, I think it's cool.
Yeah, me too.
I'm good.
Sure.
Damn it.
It could have been a 6-8.
But I want to be... yeah, that would be that rude.
It takes a lot of willpower to stay Morgan for more than a few days.
Constant ridicule.
I've been there you're a wargin how's it will pyrrha let's say oh
Kirk's sake chat voted on I had to do it what do you know that character is a
human actually he went human 40 years old seed buff for each yep exactly
Cal-U-Boo.
Ha ha ha ha.
Imagine paying a $30 get roasted on stream.
I mean, it's like, well, honestly, like,
I do it every day.
That is so true.
That is what speaking streamers all about.
Get roasted.
Yep. When I first started streaming,
I was a bit more
reserved. I was like, oh, I got to put on, like, a
persona for this. And I realized quickly that
that's not what I want to do.
I'll be myself and I'll roast myself every day. That's okay.
That's alright.
Yeah.
Also we're at 625 iLevel, good question for people who are tuning in, wanted to see how
much value we got out of the Reclear.
It was about three total item levels for the raid.
Yeah, I mean so that's more DPS, more HP, also that's more raw stamina as well which
I mean looks to be pretty needed on this fight but every little bit matters here.
Talking about it a moment ago, Vantus Rids has been committed already.
I believe a lot of the raiders have also committed their crafts at this point.
using that heroic crest I would assume from the one you got from killing Queen
Antrek last week with that quest and probably using Gilded Crest remaining
just likely always to be a tough dodge. G-Sang, oh goodness, for a raw
upgrades on relevant items. Yeah, anybody can do it, Sang-Kang.
He vokers Shorgen there. No, it's Eleventry to him.
So are there good pull coming in here as well? They've gotten pretty
This is one of those points where they're having a struggle with those quad froths coming out momentarily, followed by those webs and the dodges coming in.
I believe they're going to drag the boss in the corner over here. I guess they're going to get his tigers lost, maybe possibly.
Here's the move, putting the froths there and dragging the boss once they've come out in front of the froths, hopefully splitting the rate evenly here for those quad pops coming in.
This is that nasty overlap with the webs coming out right after getting in position.
One pop goes up there, Drani goes down, Dater's Diplot, he and she dies here as well.
Unfortunately, we have no res available, we can keep pushing here.
This is, as long as Serious is alive right now, this is their cleanest pushing of their mission.
We've seen so far, actually, Jack, it's 6.18%.
Oh my gosh.
That raid?
I mean, they're still alive right now, they're committing less at this point.
That raid damage is just so real on that grip, though.
The whole raid dips below 20%.
Yeah you can see those multiple webs being placed into the boss there when that grip comes
out.
Panking, they're sending a melee here to try and dodge those green pools easily, but here
comes the nice grip on the raid.
Look at the health dropping so fast here as well.
Scott standing over in the previous webs just dropped there to not over clutter the
remaining part of the room.
Can we see the shield percent on the boss here at all?
Yeah it's the blue bar at the bottom of Scott's screen.
Okay yeah so we're actually, hmm, we're about 70% way through the shield at this
point.
That's definitely progression on this pull.
I don't know if we're gonna be able to break this, this next grip's gonna hurt really bad, yeah.
Yep.
Ugh.
Ugh.
But I mean, you're probably gonna want to try and beat that third grip in there.
Look at the room.
There's basically nowhere left to go, but with all this little pie place in the back,
with the whole raid alive and lust being committed there, you should be able to beat
that check for that third grip.
I would assume pretty easily.
That's definitely progress here.
Wow.
Nice.
And it's good progress though.
More of the raid alive.
Oh man, well, so tuning in we are having a great morning. Queen answer. Just had a really,
really solid poll. We got that 63.58% to not even an hour ago. So we're already seeing significant
progress this early in the morning. About midway through this block also lunch happened
in a couple hours. So 32 polls on Queen answer. Yep, you're getting a surprisingly consistent,
I mean for that first phase a lot of volatility going on the nice thing about it is that there's just the emphasis on like surviving and
Figuring out really where you can best position yourself for the plethora of mechanics that are going to be coming your way
So the more that they're getting the practice and more they're getting these reps in we're just surviving the easier
It's going to be a little bit later on they kind of have to figure out how they can like greed defensives for example
Especially those not reduced by symbol of hope from the holy priest
Finally like greed those hold those for the absolute last possible second at the end of the first phase before they get into the intermission
Yeah, it's similar in some ways to Kyveza where
You only want to use your health pot or your health stone if you absolutely have to in that first phase because you're absolutely going to need it
Near the end of the intermission phase for example. Yeah, I'm sure at this point
the analyst is sitting down for a minute or two saying,
okay, we saw the damage going out there on the rain.
It's exceptionally real in that grip phase
in the intermission.
What can we do now in phase one
to move healing CDs maybe later on in that fight?
Which is more Jack's area of expertise here,
but I mean, you need something there.
That first grip is incredibly demanding
and you're, I would venture against beating
that third grip, but playing in case you don't.
Yeah.
You're gonna want to beat a third grip.
I'm not sure if it's going to be possible for them to beat one.
I don't think we beat it in the first push here, maybe eventually, but we're also lusting at that point as well, which I mean
depending on how this fight looks in phase two and phase three,
I feel like you might not, I mean it depends, but I feel like you would likely want to move that lusts for more
raw boss damage, maybe in phase three when you have to deal with those tank adds. Those web adds to pull the whole raid in one direction.
direction. Those spiders that ascends from the seal you're trying to kill and soak those
effigies that leave behind, right? There's definitely other choke points in this fight
where you can make a case for allocating lust, but the question is, can you beat that shield
even later on without it? It's 10% of the boss' health, which is nearly 800 million
damage. So it's going to be tough to see where that, or interesting to see where
that goes. Probably a tough DPS check without it, but consistency is very important,
they're getting more and more consistent in phase one, which is good to see. I'm still
calling in phase two before our shift's over.
Phase two.
Might not be a clean one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're gonna see it.
You just have to kill one ad, right? You gotta kill one ad and you get jumped up into
phase two, right?
You do, right, yeah. I mean.
You could do that with like five or six players, like.
You could. I mean, you might, I don't know, depending how many are live, I don't
I don't know if you have to have one player on each side, or if it's just, I'm not sure.
I think so.
Okay.
Yeah.
Pretty sure.
It could be a rather good thing, where they send a whole raid to one side initially,
just to see as far as they can, and say, hey, you go over here and tank this part,
and just hopefully you live long enough, but, I mean, easier said than done on a
fight like Queen Anne's Shrek, definitely easier said than done.
Let's just get there, just get to live.
Yeah, sure.
More head, you know.
Yeah.
Well that'll be the fascinating thing is that I predict very early on we're probably not going to have that low of boss percentage.
Like I don't think that we're going to get sub 60% on the boss for quite a while because the priority is going to be on breaking the shield first.
Getting enough damage there. The point where they hit and they say okay we have to really min-max our phase one damage.
So that's kind of going to be a point where they're in like phase three or something along those lines.
face yeah I'm we talked about the boss we talked about about 20 minutes ago not
having a duration check on it just health wise so we'll see where it goes
long-term but damage wise probably coming up from where we get poles in
here well let's head into a monster energy listen in for this policy we're
about five four three two one
okay first teams reactor toxins in line same times just got the toxins wait
wait wait move get the toxins over I know it's in hell right now I just
Spam for a little soon.
God damn, you're both nice.
This is fine, this is fine.
When are we gonna have to break you out?
Uh, second one, I think.
So this next one?
Okay, we're gonna single target you, it's fine.
Dodge ways, okay, liquefying here.
Okay, second roof, we're single targeting out Driny.
Everyone else in a good spot.
Driny's being pinged.
Everyone else target Driny in three, two, one, now.
Kill it, fire it up to safe.
Kill it, kill it, kill it, kill it, good.
Oh
Hey lines here move that way fading away and then react is
Lines lines lines move
Don't go minds. Yeah fatal. Yep fade away
Lines are spawning in three two one dodge these liquefy in three two one now
We're probably fucked right
Yeah, that was such a bad people people moved early. Uh, let me check
could be a mulligan but oh my god those webs are insane
oh look at this
I mean that's kind of what we're trying to
I mean that's actually insane
right there you should know after the first one shoots you can move into the first one
maybe we're just too clumpy as it picked everybody
Yeah, cuz we told range to try to not be there on this lookify and try to do these
Lookify as close to the wall they wanted to but they just all did that so mainly in ranger to stack
Can I make a request?
What's up on this on the very last set of pops?
I'm monk hoarding back into my soap
But I'd like to be in the second one instead of the first one because the web lines are going off
Basically when I'm not hoarding and I think I'm gonna kill myself sometimes if I do it
Like when I move the boss across I place my month for it and it's the next one
That's where we do the line. I know. I know it's not a previous poll. Uh
We'd have to change the whole priority. I think right unless Bart is it possible to specifically assign him the last one in a different spot?
I mean not really how it is right now
I mean you can maybe just swap like we can just you could yeah
You could yeah, no, no, it's very simple Scott just goes and start at the end and then we're fine
It doesn't it's a change on the week around. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. We'll do that
Yeah, because it just like I'm reporting because I'm on the other side of the boss and the webs are coming in at like
Point like 1.6. We're popping at 1.5. And I don't know. It's just sketchy
Do anything there so I can do it all
I'm in star yeah, and you're in orange. Yeah, you're in the first open. I'll go in the second one
Just because it's I don't need to pop right. No, you're just going in it
I was supposed to have four stacks on the last four pop right. It's one per full. Yeah
Yeah, it's at 6.8 million damage your own logic on medigators
I mean, it's just gotta be like rally so we have to really
Drop can we drop rally then on the 138?
Anyway, what it should be right? What's from her reality with her?
Well, they're really stronger
He was only a percent. I mean it's like it's the same thing the the
when is this 130? 138 is like... people are popping two minutes anyway given that
they don't take any. okay I think we can probably move rally away because no one's
not gonna damage here. yeah it's just a web sting. yeah we can move rally away
from there. I'll give him some time to update that.
do you move my rally level? yeah I'm moving yours. I mean even 6
point whatever mill though that's like need more than a rally are we
person like that. I mean, I mean, people are not going to live that consistent
but they need to lift the second doc. That's like 8.5 million.
Are they living second sectors with rescue shield?
Yeah, that's an 8.5. Rescue shield's one of those.
Okay. What's, what prevents you getting there?
Like, so I'm just, well, I just, I bring the boss like the other side, right? And then the
lines come out. So I can't just like walk back through because sometimes the lines get
get baited on me so then I have to muck a port into my soap but they go off like
0.5 before it's going to be hot.
I'm just gonna have to keep going and start.
Well yeah I mean it's more like can I do anything because I think my liquefied drops off.
I don't think so.
I couldn't pretty break my route in a different place and then run over there anymore.
Yeah I think it's fine just I'm gonna stay and start just because I don't I
actually don't think I can even get the circle if I wanted to because like
even if I pre-placed my port on circles sometimes people aren't dropping it on
They're like moving it somewhere else, which is fine. It's all good
Just what is this if I date matter that's on the edge like that's all right and the web is what matters
If you baited above or so fucking that's part of them with what you're trying to say space
But yeah, I mean that part of the fight so hard that I feel like we need to just be alive
yo
so third look if I just like
Don't worry about baiting on the edge or whatever just like don't die to webs, you know
Reacts here.
Reacts here.
Reacts number one.
Reactive toxins very soon.
Reactive toxins now.
Keep up the nick.
Nice.
Okay, waves, waves, waves.
Getting liquefied.
This is a really good bait liquefied.
The next one doesn't matter as much.
Liquefied.
Good roost.
Second roost. We're breaking the means.
Watch lines here. Wait, wait, wait, move.
Okay, third line, reactor talks are going back.
Markers.
Lines now.
Reactor talks are going out, spread them out.
Nice.
I'll go on my MZO.
Good minutes.
Okay.
Got waves, got waves.
Lines are coming out and then liqify.
Just liqify the lines, that's it.
Okay.
And liqify 3, 2, 1, now.
Now, spin.
Keep going.
AW, AW, AW here, AW here.
Oh, he's up.
Oh, he's up.
Nice move, that was insane.
Good, we're getting the, this is final wave here.
Watch for your face correctly, so you're towards where you want to put the roots.
Yep.
With reactive toxins, get reactive toxins, make sure you're looking where you want to go.
Give them space, don't leave each other.
Okay. Routes going on now. Lines are happening now.
R2-3 to me.
Oh, someone fall.
Lines are happening now.
Oh.
Uh.
Oh, God, I'm gonna say this a while.
Oh, God, I'm gonna say it again.
He ran into that.
I think I ran in it right when it spawned.
Okay.
Trying to get across it.
Yeah, we need to...
I think it's worth, like, just moving the march a little bit, so it's like a little bit less tight.
Like, after we put the route, so there's some space to move,
And you're also instantly running into them like star instead of like
Just like shift everything a little bit. Yeah, I can show you he means like he means like just have the markers two yards farther away
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay. Yeah, like starting the line on new star senior star
Yeah, yeah, yeah
W in this gap between orange and diamond is good and where triangle is ending is fine as well. I
I can't see it, so I can't.
Alright, can you look at it?
Where?
Fine.
Just the markers.
Yeah, that's fine.
I think the more room you can give between like, triangle and diamond is better.
It's actually, I see it the way around, it's the distance between orange and diamond that is by far the most important.
The diamond and triangle can be like right next to each other and they can pop it in time, they just need to stand near the back.
Alright, let's game.
game. And it is end-hour.
Ramdoll.
Two, one.
It's Stasis Uncle, does that matter?
No, no it doesn't.
Yep, nope.
Yep, nope.
Reactive.
He's a lot.
Oh, we got good spawns.
Oh, he's alive.
Do you guys have the lines ordered with the sound on it?
Yeah.
I just won't call that anymore like the wait, wait, wait thing.
They watch waves, waves, waves.
This is the really aggressive lipofied bait.
He has all it doesn't matter.
Hey, uh, roots here.
Root, root, roots.
And then lines right after lines here.
Hey, lines right now.
Oh, made that up.
Five seconds.
I fucking lied.
Moment.
Actually L for life.
Lines.
Reactor talks until left.
They're going on now.
This is so pretty looking like it.
I literally was thinking last pull, how long is it going to take for someone to do that?
That's funny.
Fucking damn it, Seng.
So you're saying you will be doing this?
Hello everybody, welcome back from that monster energy listening.
Seng, catching some strays?
What happened?
Oh that was round on target.
He popped his froth, his little toxic bubble a little bit too early.
Okay.
And unfortunately that nukes the raid.
As you can see they are staggering.
They're detonations of the froth.
And now you know exactly why they do that.
Yeah, yeah, makes sense.
Those are dangerous, dangerous pups.
It's quite a precarious mechanic.
It takes exact timing.
Especially when you have three and four out on the raid.
But once a while it's gonna happen.
You ride it back, it is what it is.
Make the mistake early on until I make it later.
True, yeah.
That's a great opportunity for them.
Call it out. Okay. It was a mistake. All right, we're gonna fix it
We're gonna deal with it and
With how the race is shaped up to be the marathon that it is
endurance morale
positivity all of this stuff seems to matter just so incredibly much for the guilds all things I don't have
To the team we're all
Self deprecating thing on your own shrink don't do it in front of Jack or myself. We're gonna
Yeah, okay, I don't think we could lift him
Six tacos
Before we went on the desk, he's like hey, just so you know I might just leave in the middle of the cast
Six Taco Bells last night. Did you what were this? What did you have specifically it's on five Doritos?
Oh boy.
Oh my gosh, okay.
Did you put any hot sauce on those?
No, I didn't.
Okay, I know what you're getting at here.
No, I'm not. I'm curious if you put any hot sauce on them.
I didn't steal the files.
No.
I think it was like a $50 order of Taco Bell.
Oh, jeez.
This is after we already went to bed.
The things that they do.
Taco Bell.
We should have Taco Bell instead of Pizza Day next time.
I mean, I'd be good, like, if there's only, like, five bathrooms in the...
True, you're right.
No, there's seven.
Oh, okay.
Do you have a secret one?
Uh...
Yeah, me.
There's, like, 40 of us here, though.
I have my own bathroom. It's fine.
There's, like, 40 of us here.
I actually had their own Taco Bell venture earlier this week.
Our sound guy was like,
It's taking off in the morning.
Sorry, sonny. I followed you out.
Oh, man.
I think he knows there's seven of us in all of the...
Yeah, it's a world tour. Yeah, basically.
World tour.
Yeah.
I am sad they got rid of their quesadillos, I gotta say.
They were headed off, I think.
Oh, they're so good.
They were really good. They got rid of them.
They were like a burrito, and then they had a quesadillo on the outside.
Quesadillo.
What sounds good?
Yeah, I know. Talk about any talkable corporate people in here.
Bring it back.
Towers.
Yeah, yeah.
Same with the Burger King cinemies.
Nope, nope, I'm not done yet.
Burger King cinemies.
All right.
Here we have our pops.
We're going to be staggering the pops.
Is that what you're going to say?
Yes, that was a little bit.
Oh my God, look at me.
One, two, and three.
I'm actually curious.
That third pop was held further out
towards the Range Comp.
Is that on purpose, Jack?
You think to dodge that wave bit later on for more leeway?
It's just a random positioning kind of thing.
Yeah, it just gives them a little bit more breathing
room for the detonation.
And you have to keep in mind that when you get knocked up
in the air by the froth.
It's also usually moving you forward.
And so they wanna make sure that you're not getting moved
into the third of the frost
and getting bounced up once again.
And only be in one of those circles.
Got it.
Got Tobo in chat saying need helpers
for Roshanon Heroic, group and finder.
Oh, so Tobo, please help for Tobo.
Go help Tobo.
Yeah.
Roshanon Heroic, go, go, go, go, go.
Whoo.
All right, this is gonna be that fourth froth pop
coming up here with the Nasty or that.
We have webs right into it afterwards.
It could be basically prepositioning to get to your spot.
We do indeed lose Bumi, Riku, big poppy down here as well,
but we are pushing into the air mission once again.
Oh, we lose extra fire up here as well.
Might be bleeding out a little bit here.
We have Luspin committed, we lose M-Pack,
Riku goes down.
We can still push into this and see some more frog.
So watch this grip in here.
Look where they just were.
That whole part of the room is filled with webs now,
which is the reason why they're making
as much room as possible,
or at least leave you as much room as possible.
of that phase one. Why precise positioning is so important on those drop drops and those web drops.
The shield on the boss here is 10% of the boss's health, which is about 780 million
damage required. You can see that blue bar on the screen there with about 40% remaining. We've
seen the best thing, I think 30 you were taking the shield, but we're getting back to this point.
Also, we're both, we are. And getting a few more people alive, a few different people alive
Each time makes it even easier for everybody to get a feel for how they're going to be able to survive.
You saw a couple smiles there by Atlas as well.
Just having the vibe being kept a little bit higher for everybody as they know that, like,
this is just the grueling process that always needs to really be done.
And being able to find a balance between productive polls, like what we're seeing,
and being able to keep everybody positive, I think is such a major factor.
for boss progression, because sometimes you get the vibes good, but then you're not making progress.
Or, you know, you're making progress and then you kind of forget to like, you know, keep it light and keep it fun.
Yeah, very much so. Just to clarify, the shield is 10%, and it might seem like a lot,
but they're also putting lust there as well as holding some cooldowns for that shield we would assume.
And we've gotten to that point with at least four or five DPS dead every time.
Once we get a clean push, like Jack said, maybe two more poles of some heal being dead,
But seeing that phase once or twice gets you a lot more familiar with what's going on mechanically
over at POIs, we're defensive, how to play it for optimal DPS.
That shield looks very difficult now. It's a lot of health, don't get me wrong.
But it won't look as difficult with a full rate of life, with LUS being committed there
once we get to that point, which is hopefully somewhere in the next hour and a half.
I'm not losing out on what I said here.
We bleed.
What did you say? Phase two you want to see?
Well, I mean basically breaking that shield's phase two.
Yeah, one of the platforms spawned in on the left and right side
But yeah, I think it's way too early to call for any kind of tuning to that shield just to clarify
I think we leave the shield where it's at and
See where it goes
but
Yeah, keep in mind most of ads in phase two both those like prior ads on most platform
Platform pedestals. I believe there's three plus a little bit of a we and also in the final phase a lot of prior ads bonding and Shrek
There's tank ads the web ads to group you in the spiders that come out from the ceiling which you can support from as well
so
I don't have much help those like you know
Have as I did but still a lot of
Opportunistic damage in this fight and excess damage and ads and things you need to break as well
Yee yee. Absolutely yee
Hey, I'll still correction for chat. Not only did a queen on Zarek
Stab her mommy shouldn't kill her
What? She didn't? She didn't kill her.
Gosh guys, didn't you do the campaign?
I don't read it.
Man...
She... I mean, is it spoilers? It's been a couple weeks.
I'm just saying.
Spoilers start. Close your ears.
It's been a couple weeks. Close your ears.
Go ahead. Do it.
Okay, here it comes.
Wait, wait, hold on. Let me pin spoilers.
Let me pin spoilers.
Okay.
All comes.
I'll pin it.
Okay.
And she got her mommy.
Okay.
And then she took the black blood and started experimenting on her mommy.
Okay.
And then turned her into this like monstrosity that kind of looks like ol' gracks.
But it's not ol' gracks.
I just see that.
Oh!
Yeah.
Yeah.
Stabbed her and then experimented upon her.
Ugh.
Yeah.
Do we kill her in the, in the quest line?
No.
We actually save her and they take her to uh, black blood rehab.
Oh my gosh.
Afterwards.
Very cool.
Okay.
Well, there's over.
Okay.
I didn't know that.
Clear.
Yeah.
You're welcome.
I'm just saying no.
It's very messed up.
It's very messed up.
A little dark floor and a little warcraft that people kind of rush over.
Yeah, there's also a part of the quest line where you try to stop a bad person from doing bad things,
and then you walk up to them and ask them to stop and they kick you in the ribs.
And then you do that like four more times.
Where you're like, please stop, kick you in the ribs.
And then you're like, I'm not asking anymore, and then they just like kick you in the ribs again.
again and it's like okay yeah like we just we didn't even get to fight them we
just like get punched well you know okay I guess we can't stop them thanks
out half currently yeah we'll see what happens okay like agile yeah she got
shoes on running a fast yeah it was a bad person it was definitely a bad
person he kicked in the ribs by somebody they're a bad person I'm not your
friend actually yeah just keep me in the ribs if you time I've definitely not
I can't get rid of it.
Oh no.
Definitely not.
It's possible.
Emotionally or?
Both.
Both.
Listen, at worst, I've gripped you up platforms.
That's fair.
He did.
He didn't save me on flying up a platform on old racks before.
I think it was maybe heading to BrewTwister or BloodTwister, whatever it is.
No.
Flip on horror.
Oh.
Basically, he wasn't there for me.
What?
When I needed him smoking.
Jack wasn't there for me.
That's sort of how it is, but you know.
Eh, that's alright.
Whoa, first pane of spoilers broke.
Gosh, we talked about this.
Did Echo kill it?
Echo has indeed killed Nexus Princess.
Yes!
Echo is free, they got one more boss to re-kill.
Mm-hmm.
Second court shouldn't be that bad of a re-kill.
It isn't good of like mechanical overlaps you gotta deal with, but I mean...
Are you cursing them already?
I mean, if I could, I would, let's be honest.
I might be a little biased, but you know, like, that's crazy.
I've said it before, man, accounting and acrobatics is the biggest mistake of anyone's life.
You shouldn't do it.
Because they've proven time and time again, they can come in and make some serious progress
pretty fast.
Plus, I mean, they have a lot of phase one sort of laid out for them when they
get back to angst-recked by liquid prog and his fight today a bunch, you know.
So it's gone both ways in the past, obviously, no favoritism one way or another, but
I mean it's how the race goes right so but obviously a faster re-clear or something we like to see or as they like to see
They would like to see sure so
Yeah, all right. Well in the meantime between this poll we're gonna take a look at some pets
Are submitted from the viewers to our charity all yours true. Oh my gosh
Submitted by trills mom
mom Michelle that's nice I like them I can't tell the world was looking but I
see now I see oh very cuddly very nice dogs very nice dog goes I like that
comfy couch to your submission oh my god Moxie Moxie shout out to Izzy Panda we
love the blur. Yes. The zoomie photo. The zoomie photos. Yeah. Yeah. Very agile.
Rapid pace.
Well, side eye too. Yeah. Very nice. We'll sleep in. That's right. That's pretty good.
How it gives me when I talk about warlocks. Right next to each other or healing. He's
like, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I know these words. This is great. Yeah. Yeah.
Top left, back when he's talking about healing, top bottom right is definitely ill.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This picture makes me very nervous.
What a beautiful eyes.
It is.
Sweet kitty.
I don't like cats or any animals near reeling some balconies.
I don't like it.
It makes me nervous.
I think that cat is.
Got incredible balance.
Yeah.
They know what they're doing.
Ooh, Barry.
They know what they're doing.
Me?
I would not know what I'm doing.
Yeah.
That checks out.
That's okay. I don't mean to be grilling you take Jack. I'm just that's okay. It's okay
I you used to have things grilled instead of Fred. Yeah, I am I support the burgers today burger I eat
Three yeah, I know
The burgers are like man
What does that I oh, I'm just I three is a lot. I yeah, you know, it's good. Yeah, they were pretty good tasty
Yeah, they're pretty good
One time she made like a mushroom sauce
the burgers are so good. I haven't seen it since though. I imagine
a mushroom sauce would be wasted on a lot of the people in this building.
Yes, yesterday's lunch was three burgers
without bread. Three burger patties,
five tacos and a piece of grilled chicken with vegetables.
I thought four of them claimed to be gluten intolerance.
Yeah, it's no bread. Oh, you just ate the burger patty.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
And there's no pollutant in the Taco Bell tacos?
Well, I mean, there probably is, but they're not supposed to be.
Pfft!
I don't know, man.
I feel fine, so there's what it is.
There you go.
Fair enough.
All right, there's one more pet we're going to squeeze in here before this next pull.
Mm-hmm.
Aww.
Casey.
Andy, where's your pet?
You submit your pet some point?
Look at that.
I submitted.
Okay, so you should.
From Cat, from Cat.
Yeah!
Call him Luffy.
Yeah.
Cash is, you know, how do you say that name?
Cash has meow.
Me meow, thank you.
I like this picture.
It's very nice.
Oh, cash has a meow.
Yeah, there you go.
Casey.
I love a good.
Years up.
Shepherd.
Yeah, right.
Mm hmm.
The old years.
I'm still pretty young.
Probably like a year old or something.
Yeah.
Oh, look at the car.
Demon dog.
That dog looks like a demon dog.
Like in a good way.
That dog looks like it's about to bolt.
It's building power.
Yeah, probably every inch of that dog's body is pure muscle just ready to bolt
This is a Pettles dog. Yeah
The hair difference I see what you're saying with that. Yeah, it's a little like the letter. Hey the ear
Yeah, the hair in the ears. Yeah, it was the curtains. Yeah, I like it. It's a good dog
Does tell us have curtains is that it's called? I don't know the hairstyle. Is it called curtains?
Is that the question you're asking? Yeah, I don't think so Jack. No, isn't that a thing?
I don't know maybe maybe I could be wrong I'm a lord
Belarian that game for under friends. I don't know it is. Hmm. It's it sounds like it is
The blaring was like a dragon. Oh, yeah, but Larry in the dread. I am biggest of the dragons in fact
That was the dragon that a gun the conqueror like when burning a in the countryside in the game of Thrones
I know these things. Yeah, I got a gun
I love cats I have like these like just super out like alpha like Lord Valerion
like Arthur the conqueror some random cat laying on a couch like it's so good
it's very good
I'm glad you're adding it. Very good. I like it. Thank you. What's Trogdor? What? Trogdor?
No, what is that?
Nice chat spamming chat.
Outdoor was a man.
Wait.
He was a tracking man.
Or maybe he was just a
tracking.
I don't know what that's from.
Jesse
myself over here rocking on the couch.
Burnin' Nate
in the countryside
Burnin' Nate and all the
peasants
and all the people, and the Thashroof Cottages!
I have no idea.
Thashroof Cottages!
They all get in the- yeah!
They get in the puppy and tell them what it is.
Yeah!
Oh my gosh.
Well-
That's good, Jack.
It was good.
Yeah, I don't know what it is, but-
Oh my gosh.
It was not only a game and a song.
It was a mobile, it was like a- it was a web game on the site where you could
be Trogdor and you could go burn and ate and all the people.
This is a mobile game?
Oh, yeah. It's a web game.
A web game, okay.
HomeStarRunner.com, okay?
Okay.
You can answer your emails.
Great.
Great animated series.
Rich character development.
Hey.
Lots of games.
Boy.
Say, are you okay?
I don't feel like I feel like I've got on that bike.
Oh, okay.
Everything.
I hope this is a good prog poll in the abject scene for a while.
I hope so.
Not my bad, my bad.
Yeah.
That was good, Jack.
I'm proud of you coming out of your shell and singing a little bit there.
That was good.
Very good.
Gotta bust it out a little bit.
I'm gonna bust it out a little bit.
Like how long did I need to have an inside joke found to make you guys feel left out?
Yeah, we could.
I think it's something, I guess.
There were just like so many games, too.
I don't know if there were like boss fights that you would fight.
And you know, if you lost a boss fight, your head would explode.
It's like, your head, uh, explode.
You know, I don't know any of them.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
You guys are older than me.
You guys probably know about this.
My brother's introduced to me, so it...
Nope.
Uh, no dude.
You're so clean here as well.
Ugh.
This is why we talk about everything, Chad.
I can't get it right.
I can show you guys how to draw, draw a door if you want.
Sure.
Yeah.
You have to be really good at drawing these.
Okay.
Consimate these.
Consimate.
Yes, of course.
Consimate these.
That is that it yeah yeah you gotta draw it s we have like a little wand tell
straighter something like that I could show you
you could pull up paint was a constant the HDMI I can I can draw for you
okay it just said on camera I'm not moving from this point hold what is a
consummate V was that you have to I have to show you I just draw your hand
that's a V you have to make multiple V's to make spikes okay spikes and teeth
for your dragon.
This is so...
Let me walk you through this.
Can we play the game?
First, you got to draw an S.
Yeah, I got Snake.
Great, there you go.
You can draw a more different S.
You got some little stick legs,
and then you give them one real beefy arm.
Once you get like an hour, hour and a half,
you get a big pump arm.
24 hour arm workout.
Then you got to get your spikes.
Okay, and it's consummate these all all the way down consummate these
Strong I need you to draw this for me. I'm great at some point. I am very curious
Still play should we load it up?
Probably I don't I never forgets
That's true. I'm a net it's there forever. It wouldn't know majesty if it bit him in the face
True. I haven't seen Jack just passion in a long time. I know, right?
Palamansi would not know majesty if it bit him in the face.
Healing and whatever this thing is called. I forget already
Everybody knows about this with you guys
Production is everybody. Yes in our ears and we in Kalamazoo just lost. Yes
Everybody knows about this
Everybody
It just I don't know it was just a huge cultural thing like even my sister got into it
How I missed this.
I don't know how you missed it either.
Oh my gosh, I was a Neopets person for a while.
Strong bad email number 58.
Thank you, Jeff. Go sign it to them.
You were a Neopets person, Jeff?
I was pretty big on Yu-Gi-Oh.
Oh Yu-Gi-Man, I know that one.
I was moving into the TV show.
I even had the dual disc.
I had a couple of the Tins I would buy.
I bought one of the Tins just to get Buster Blade.
Oh thought was a good card and I was like that looks so sick. It's cool. Yeah
That's right. Oh, yeah, you don't know what the system is down
Yeah
There's so much to show you I'm so much to show you
It's like I just have to show you this entire world you do yeah. Yeah. Oh buster blade was a good card, okay?
Let's go. Good. I feel more validated in my 10-year-old decision-making process.
I had a blue-eyes white dragon.
So did I. I had three pieces of Exodia.
Oh my gosh.
That's right.
Is that a neopath?
No. We're talking about Yu-Gi-Oh.
Exodia was the god card, and you needed to collect all five pieces of it.
And I saw it one time. This guy, kind of like a young kid, had walked in,
and it was his grandfather's deck.
And he'd like spent his entire life collecting rare cards from like all over the world.
And...
Gosh...
You know, this guy came into the car shop one time.
He tried to buy him out, tried to buy his rare cards and everything like that.
His grandfather said, no absolutely not gonna do that.
Oh!
That rich guy sends his grandfather to the hospital, okay?
So the young kid grabs his grandfather's deck, okay?
Okay.
And grandpa says you need to believe in the heart of the cards. Uh-huh. You can go take down that rich guy
Okay, it's rich guy. He's got three. Okay. Let me let me get you let me lay it out for you
He has three blue eyes white dragons
There's like a dozen of these in the world and everything like that form like a omega dragon
We're just like three. He does later on. Oh, okay, cool. That's right
All hope seems lost you he had four pieces of exodia in hand
And then he puts his hand over the deck and he says I believe in the heart of the cards
my grandfather made this deck and what do you know he draws a final piece of exodia
kicks that guy's butt sends him to the shadow realm does he does the guy die to that power
no it gets sent to the shadow realm when you lose and you don't die it sends the
shadow realm you're like okay okay okay all right okay that's right all right that
was good that was good I that was good I'm proud of you Jack thank you I'm proud
I'm torturing up here a little bit.
Oh, spoiler.
It's a heartfelt story.
It is, OK?
It is.
I mean, it is spoilers.
But it's OK.
This little runty bug guy goes and throws the Exodia cards
off the yacht.
The yacht.
Yeah.
They're running the yacht one time.
Would you like to see?
Can you draw your dragon?
Draw?
Whatever it was?
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know.
You might have to just.
Oh, come on over.
Yeah.
OK.
All right.
OK.
Jack's going to draw.
Would you like a pit for this or something?
I think they might just pull it up between poles here.
Where's my drawing tool?
My drawing tool.
Oh, here we go.
Drawing.
Listen up.
OK, we're listening.
We're listening.
We're paying attention.
You draw an S. OK?
Is that a snake?
Yeah.
Pipe down.
OK.
Plastic session.
Then you draw a more different S. OK?
That's a snake.
Draw some little legs.
And then you go draw his face.
It's going to be a little wider of a face.
Head going on here.
Okay.
Okay.
Actually.
And you gotta give him a nice big meaty beefy arm.
Whoa.
There's a little vein in there and everything like that,
because you know he's been pumping up a big old workout.
Whoa.
Under that one.
All right.
Are those fingers at the end, or tail on?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tail on.
Tail on.
Okay.
And you don't make the spikes.
You gotta be consummate bees.
Consummate bees.
Okay.
Yes, okay, any color to this drawing working on it. Okay. We're trying to get vision down
You don't you don't you don't color eyes until later on
Alright, this is a dragon or yeah, he's no dragon. No dragon. My bad. I
Sorry
Here spikes, what's this guy's name in triangle board? It is David's truck door
Come on, you know some snakes and some fire the Stanks. Yeah
Sassy look at it. It's like Godzilla. It's just a trogdor. It's one bicep.
How am I supposed to please? It's trogdor.
Where's the fill icon? There it is.
That's gonna fill the whole page.
It didn't close enough. I didn't close enough.
Yeah, it's okay. No fill. No fill here.
That's good.
I'm not filling anything. Isn't this trogdor?
That does not look good. Stop lying.
I think we're jacked.
You wouldn't know majesty if it bit you in the face.
I think it's about the bit. All right. Well, you know what? All right. Hey, we have serious business going on
I spent so much time learning to draw this
It's very nice
Very pretty. Oh, we needed a tiny wings. I'm sorry. I forgot about the tiny wings
Majesty back that are drawing majesty
Just now tuning in we are learning about a
uh, Trogdor, you get Kalamazzy, and we're on pull number 39 here on Queen Anthrax.
We finished our re-clear about an hour ago, maybe a little bit over an hour,
and we're seeing a little bit of Prague this morning too.
They're nice and energized from this morning, and having some pretty good points.
Yeah, they really are.
They're far.
Yeah, they're getting surprisingly consistent in this phase one,
not to the point where they're beating that first shield or that shielded intermission,
but they're getting there.
The biggest progression point for them is getting through that quad pop of the Froth effects, which increase from 2 to 3 to then 4 for each set, which is right before the intermission on the boss.
If we can get that cleanly with the whole raid live, or even one person dead, you should see a pretty good intermission push into that shield and hopefully just a phase 2. Pretty simply.
Yeah.
Pretty simply, simple.
I mean, at this point, it really becomes a game of figuring out how they can leverage their defensive to survive some of the increasing damage
from multiple froth pops, multiple explosion pops.
There's such high damage at the end of the encounter, you can even see how well spread the players are.
Since as they drop these froth, these little toxin bubbles that you see under the side,
they pulse a weak damage to everybody around them.
And so it's imperative that they're spread out, they're delaying the explosions of those froths,
and then adjusting a position to be stacked once again and utilizing the defenses because the bursts right here are
Able to wipe out players really in just a heartbeat. Yeah, we lose lip and draco here unfortunate
We have one res available the boss should be pushing. I think after we have what we have queued up here
We have the event of Nova coming up with this. Yeah, this is one of those weird overlaps
So we're gonna have not here. We're gonna have one website come out
I believe with the final fraud set Jack correct or yes
Yeah, so that's the one where you basically sort of reposition where you're standing so you can get to your front time it quickly because they pop
Very quickly after those webs and they're going out. We do indeed see
Force bonding in here making that it's really like that wall for the boss
Which usually we'll see we'll receive tigers lust running quick with the boss past those frosts that come out
Making it able to get max leave on those getting into your soaks ahead of time here one pop
You can see two three and four getting knocked over the lip there
Right into that throw, you left him a dodge, but we lose a couple more, we can maybe make
more burst, more burst damage happening in a sec, yeah, yeah, that, that right there.
That right there is what they need to figure out a way to survive.
It's tough when you lose players though, so it's too right.
And I think the detonation was a little bit larger because I think if you don't have
the proper distribution for the group, since they had a few players dead, if
there's imbalance with the players getting knocked up into the air, it actually triggers
additional damage.
higher stack explosion and since they have such a high stack explosion they can't really survive
and so they need to have everybody alive at that point have perfectly distributed you know five by
four or froths have five players per froth in there get knocked up into the air have the lowest
stack possible for the venom bomb detonation and then be able to survive and push into the
intermission phase so one of the biggest things when you're looking at like is this going to
going to be a good poll or not is is everybody going to be alive when those
froth detonations that are knocking players up into the air is that going to
be presents and it's truck door that's right the eyes are above that's right
where is his constant V's or whatever we're talking about here it's the
bottom literally on his tail also on the inside for his scales you can
Spikes I would have done what spikes were
well
I'm trying to overcomplicate things here Jack. I don't know. I don't know. Look at those lines. We got a arm
Yeah, I know
Look at that majesty
A little bit better than yours Jack
Of course
I mean, I don't I don't mean to to be as good as the original artist
What do you mean Jack? You're getting the jammers on
Oh, this is the actual one
Thanks
Is this the actual one?
This is the actual one
Oh, I thought production did this
No, no, no, no, this is the original
You're literally looking at like the Mona Lisa of the
Wow
this. Like it's gonna be a 20 years old probably?
18 years old?
20 years old.
Oh my gosh.
I think it's my will.
Yeah, he's like a wing-a-ling dragon, okay?
I like Buffalo wings. They're pretty good.
Yeah.
I'm down for that.
Very nice.
If we can play the song, we'll play the song chat. I'm not sure if it's DMCA or
gonna get us in trouble.
Oh, it was in Guitar Hero.
That's right, it was actually.
It was in Guitar Hero before it was in Trogor, or is it a Trogor original
song?
It was an original song on the internet, probably when they were making zero money from it.
And this guy was just making web games and fun animations.
I hope that whoever I never really researched who was in charge of it or who made it, I hope
that they are just swimming in money right now.
I'm almost certain that they made like zero dollars ever in the early days.
Yeah, sense.
Yeah.
Hopefully.
I hope that they are just swimming in success. I would buy some shrog door merch. Yeah, cool
Oh, you're like into it now. Well, yeah, I mean it'd be pretty cool
I prefer my liquid apparel of course
Teal.gg slash store if you want your own liquid apparel. Yeah, you're supporting the Star Wars hoodie today
I've worn this hoodie. I've washed it declare. Yeah, I've worn it for the last few days give or take I think one
Day, it's very nice very comfortable. This is my Star Wars Sith hoodie. Yes
Very nice for the zipper in the front. Very nice for Florida. It gets a little hot. You can open up get some air coming in
Yeah, zip right on up ready to go. Yeah, you're definitely right
I'd see it was definitely before the commercialization of the internet
So I think at the time they were almost certainly making like zero dollars
But hopefully they did something later on to be swimming in money. They deserve it. There we go. A lot of good memories from that
What era was this? This is like 20 years ago
And basically they would like respond to emails and have just cool fun animated stories and skits and everything like that
You know it would be like
Hey like strong bad like I'm having
Like it one of the good ones
It's like oh gosh, there's actually a bit about picking up chicks
We're strong bad strong bad. Yeah, who's I'm that name comes to me. Who's that? He was he was this guy who had like a big?
Um, wrestling, like, hoodie and everything like that.
Or wrestling mask on.
And he would, like, answer people's emails and get them answered, you know?
I feel like, yeah.
He had a whole family. He lived, yeah, Luchadori Mask, thank you.
He had a brother named Strongbad, a brother named Strongsad.
Yeah, I'll explain it. He basically lived with his family.
Strongmad, Strongsad. Strongbad.
Yeah, I'd be strong bad three not well actually it's kind of funny you mentioned that definitely see that
Yeah, and then he had a best friend who was this like you can choose looking dude called the chief
Chief the cheat. Oh cheat. Yeah
You guys just not going the internet. No, I just had a vinyl black sheep
Rain rot instead. I literally couldn't watch Scooby-Doo
I was banned from watching scuba-doos as a child.
What was the first game you guys played on a computer?
Warcraft.
Yeah, but like, okay.
You probably would have seen this then, like...
I don't know!
We had one computer, it was a dinosaur.
My dad still has it.
Literally 20 years later, it's the same computer.
Yeah.
Pentium 2.
Yeah, it's alright.
It takes like...
You know, I like dial up and all this other stuff.
He's still done!
You know, like my parents told me about when we got DSL, how much better it was,
and I was like excited, like, you know.
It takes him like 15 minutes to boot the computer up.
Yeah, I had that too.
I had to get him one of the big rings from here,
bring it home to suitcase.
I know, but like, gosh.
Yeah, I would literally do my homework on the bus on the way home,
so I could go play, you know, in like 2006 or whatever it was when I was like 13 years old.
I'd do that, and I'd like put my homework on the counter for when my parents got home,
so they could see that I, you know, wasn't slacking me at school,
just so that I could like go play more Runescape,
and watch HomeStarRunner.
So you were one of the kids that did their homework
actually at home after that school?
No, no, I was on the bus on the way home
and I was like, that counts as like,
so you did it outside.
I was one of the kids that did their homework
for the class upcoming in the previous class.
I would try to do that too.
But then they would say that I wasn't paying attention
and then I would like answer the question correctly
and then they'd get upset at me.
Yeah, yeah, mm-hmm.
Like, I was like, what's wrong?
Yeah.
What?
Did you get that Spanish homework next period?
What?
Yeah, like I don't know, I just wanted to be done.
I wanted to be done so I could go play video games.
I feel like homework is, I don't want to get too far on this,
I feel like homework though is actually detrimental.
Yeah.
I feel like it is.
School should stay in school,
and then it should not be homework,
so you're like in college,
and you're paying for that education.
Yeah, I learned a lot online.
Yeah.
I could be trusted to be left alone with a computer.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, there's so many times
that my brothers would take over though,
unfortunately.
A computer?
Yeah.
Family computer?
Yeah, cause I was the youngest.
Oh, well, yeah, no homework on a game all the time. Exactly. That's what I was getting at. You know, time to be made for gaming
Yeah, I agree. Absolutely. Hey, I mean it does teach you skills, you know
I was always the fastest hyper a lot of my grade and it's used to teach you a lot of cognitive
You know, that's true work and yeah, economy. Here comes the boom
Boom there we go
That's that choke point. I mean
That's just so rough. I'm losing one person just even I wanted to just spiral so fast there as well
because you have inefficient or in I guess inefficient
Not properly stacked so groups at that point
The rays are really low and that incoming damage is making so much harder. Did you guys ever play those learning games growing up?
Yeah, did you ever play pajamas Sam? Oh, I love pajamas. Yeah
Yes, what would we learn? There were like math problems and puzzle solving
That part you can buy it on steam. I bought it recently that owns I put up that game with snowballs
I forget what it's called. It's right. No need to hide when it's dark outside
Is that a misa pajama Sam thing that is a that is like their their reference and stuff. Yeah, oh, I don't
Yeah, I forgot about it. Apparently it's been too long
I just remember bonbons and not knowing what that was and really wanting one and to be honest
I still don't know what a bonbon is. Yeah, there was actually a time of pajama Sam where you found this massive treasure of like gold and
Jules and everything like that. Yeah, and then
There was this walking vacuum machine that came around it sucked it all up and then it said taxes. Oh
Yeah
Man, Jack's got a pretty good memory. I don't really do yeah breakfast still go okay
The game is called super solvers treasure mountain is that the math
Well, you know my school. I don't know if anyone played that
Yeah, you you couldn't save your progress unless you had a floppy disk
So I brought a floppy disk to school and I was always the furthest and the furthest prog on the on the math game
Yeah, yeah, do you remember when McDonald's would give away?
Demo CDs to play on the computer. No, okay
So one of my favorite movies of all time is treasure planet
Okay, and when they gave you a demo CD because my parents would not buy online games for me or anything like that
They only trusted consoles I
I would go to McDonald's and I got the demo CD for the Treasure Planet game
Okay, and I just played the demo like 50 million times and you would like basically be in front of like space
it was like
Olden times like wooden spaceships. Yeah, or wooden wooden boats, but they were in space. I should say yeah
It was really a CD-ROM that you would get from McDonald's. It's great. That's cool
So I have a treasure planet sugar spoon
that I got out of a cereal box that I've kept. It is the perfect sugar spoon.
There you go. Those are cool. I remember those two.
Those OG throwback McDonald's mugs. I had the Batman one still. Very cool.
Very cool. You guys just tuned in? Welcome. We've been having a number of
pulls where they're getting to about the exact same point each time in the
encounter and it's been a slog basically for them to figure out how
to make sure everyone is surviving through some of these final explosions for some of the goo
that is detonating into the air is the froth. You're having an ever-increasing amount of
froth getting dropped by players. They have to spread out these explosions to knock everybody
up into the air, and then there's a blast, and you have to make sure that everybody is
properly proportioned for the blast to survive, and that's really what's been kind of killing
telling everybody off. So while we've been waiting to see what changes they're making
in terms of their cooldown allocations to survive that, we've been just kind of remembering
the olden times.
I have a few DMs about not knowing what Trogtor is.
People are disappointed in me.
Well, nobody ever DMs Kalamazma.
No, I'm not going to say that. Now we can.
That's not what I was going to say. Don't DM me, please.
Good day. Good day.
I think Jack's got some DMs here and there. I'm good.
I'm good.
Yeah, I'm good at the games
Like blast that's filling them called
It's from the
I want to see the froth. I think it's a venom bomb or something. I know wow had had the mechanic for
and a little bit
Like the venom Nova the venom Nova when that goes out that is what you have to dodge
Oh, that's a skip right here. Okay, and then the froth itself is the debuff that players are dropping
I find a force here.
It's you have to pop the reactive fraught to jump over the venom novas.
But yeah I was trying to see the exact name of the mechanic where it's dependent upon
the proper sorting of the raid to make sure you don't get too many stacks to detonate
the raid.
Basically, if you have players dead and then the raid is just improperly sorted
in terms of too many people in one group, too many people in another group, that
detonates and adds more stacks to the last explosion.
It goes off that right there, like literally right there.
That damage is dependent on having the entire raid properly sorted,
and then if you lose players, can't res them,
then it actually adds more damage to the mechanic later on.
Yeah, quite intense.
So you can see if it's not soaked evenly by a right number,
like a correct number of players in the raid, you also get an extra stack,
like Jack mentioned earlier.
So when you have those four froths coming out,
we're trying to pop them within about a second or so of each other,
it is very demanding because you cannot take two pops, I don't believe.
Like as far as like going from one pool to the next you see all four coming out here
This is where that big damage comes in. So we're gonna see ones by the boss pop first
There's gonna be one actually one at range. It's brilliant. Really?
Yeah, that was an additional one. I'm just gonna wipe here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was weird
Yeah, it was a little early
Little longer than we need it right there
Unfortunately beginning back to that point is what they want to see
You'll see them pop basically in the order of star, circle, diamond, and then triangle
because that wave from the boss you're looking to hop over comes out in a
expanding circle. And then as long as they're staggered like soakwise, like
number-wise based on rate numbers correctly, you shouldn't have as strong
of a debuff on you, but it's still gonna hurt a tremendous amount heading into
that intermission.
Alright, well between the pulls, let's take a look at some more of the transmog
Submitted by you guys. Oh, we're really close to $20,000. Also, we are 19.4. Okay. This is the leaky toilet
That's a gonna be Kalamazoo if this Taco Bell
It's like a gold but like so like a brownish kind of gold mug like the helmet good bit. It's like the traveling paladin
Yeah, it's like Uther in playlands, but every he's all you know sad if in a little cabin with the worms, right?
I give it like a 8, 8, 8, 4, 7, 6, 7, 5, I like it.
Alright, one more quick one.
Nice.
Thank you, Zeke Toilet.
Oh my goodness gracious.
Zack Attack.
Oh.
Zack Attack.
That's nice wings.
He's a little wingaling panda.
That's true.
Is that a honeycomb on fire, staff?
I think it's hot as well.
This one owns.
Yeah, this is good.
It's not as goofy as I want, but it's still like on the edge of being goofy. I think this is 8.1
9.3
Jack not a connoisseur of good mobs apparently 9.3 for this is a little surprising. That's okay. We all of our I'd like to see
All right, give you surprises
Knock on your door 5am
See you soon.
What do you say?
See you soon.
Oh yeah, I...
See you soon.
Might be nap time after my next shift before ray tonight.
Yes, you can come over to my place.
Oh, if you want to pop some popcorn, you can watch Die Hard again, sure, let's go.
Yeah, we'll watch Die Hard too.
Yeah.
Is that the better one?
Uh, they're all good.
Well, the first three are all good.
It's not Christmas though, it's weird watching a Christmas movie ahead of time.
They're true.
Certainly a Christmas movie.
Alright, so this next pop we should see coming up here after this pre-spread for the actual webs coming out.
I believe this should be the triple pop we have here.
Yep, there's three spawn in there, so once you get in that line from star into circle into diamond,
you're going to see star popped first here, right in about a second or so to dodge the initial wave from the boss.
There's one, and she's two popped about now. Here comes number three to dodge.
One, two, three, all knocked over, just enough time to dodge those pools that spawn from the actual broth themselves, dodging the waves that are coming out.
Everyone's still alive here as well. This next overlap is going to be the nasty one, yeah.
They're careful there, okay? We're okay! Careful there, because I know it looks like they've cleared all the mechanics once they fly into the air and jump over the Venom Nova,
but there is a delayed explosion that occurs after the fact under that.
And it only gets more lethal if any players are dead and have not properly soaked that broth.
You got knocked out of the mirror.
Yep, so we're going to see that fourth set coming out here momentarily up those four broths.
Similar to what we saw a minute ago, we're going to see the one pop through the boss,
heading out all the way from star to diamond to see all four spawning in here.
Plays again in front of the boss, actually.
So the tank gets tighter as lust to pull the boss through the broth that are dropped here.
That was a crazy sequence by fired up dropping off his debuff
blinking into the web, getting out of the web to properly drop it and maximize space.
That was insane.
Here it is right now.
This is the explosion that they need to survive.
And everybody was alive.
Big Poppy goes down, but that shouldn't affect the detonation damage.
They all survived.
They're going to get you.
Keep up.
This is a huge pull.
Yeah, 65.78 in the boss here.
We're going to see Luskin committed right about now to break this shield.
Look at that blue bar and fired up screen at the top.
That is the remaining health shield on the boss. Keep in mind every pull in here drops webs under your feet so saving as much from as possible to drop these webs also dodges great these big green pools coming at you.
Look at the shield. Okay, you can see to the top middle of fired up screen. They have about a third of the shield left remaining on to this one.
Oh, some damage.
Oh, he does go down, but they're about to break the shield. Even if it's 65%, this is some serious progress on the boss.
boss. This is massive. We're going to see the shield breaking about now. So we have two
adds spawning. One left, one right. Are there webs? The webs do clear. So that is a positive.
We're going to split the raid left and right and see what this phase two looks like as
long as these adds die fast enough. Yeah, they have almost everybody alive. They only
have one healer down. And oh no, what how? Been there. What is that rift right
right there. What is that rift? That is a mythic mechanic that is not seen on heroic.
I don't know what that rift is. I actually don't know. We're going to have to rewind
through that. Yeah, a replay of that would be great. Unless that was an adcast. Unless
it was an adcast because usually they just get shut down instantly and you know you
kind of just see half the raid mob each side and you shut them down no problem. Yeah.
I mean, there are portals in phase three that port you around the room when you-
That's what it looked like too.
Yeah, but they were painting the web and it had a red debuff on top of it, which is really interesting.
Alright, we're gonna head into the comms, see if they're discussing that poll just now for a monster energy listenant.
That one's every three minutes because it leaves that debuff.
Yeah.
Um, I wanna just say debuff, so saying...
On his ad, just hit here.
And then you just have to put this on the edge, or this is a-
It's a dispel, and it leaves the puddle.
Yeah, why did you end it as and as a red light portal I think the portal actually blew up like the other one
Okay, so we need to assign portal sets so on the first one we might as well just have
Like I mean we had the evoker swap sides hers. I wonder if we should have
Well, okay, we have to think I
Need to think about this. How long is the ball on swapping sides?
It's not a bomb. It prevents you from using it.
It's three minute duration.
Okay, so wouldn't we want to maybe send the tanks first so they don't have to ever swap during the phase?
Does that make sense?
It is, like, right away. Like, as soon as that's done, it'll be very easy.
I feel like the tanks just do the first swap so we don't have to, like, swap them with the ads up later.
Right?
This is about to be so annoying for my friends, but the bad part is the tanks are also going to get spell debuff, push the melee out.
That doesn't matter. I mean it's like the portal spawn like instantly when that spawns, so like you could just like take care of it probably before like much.
It also depends how many are on the platforms, if it's just one portal per platform not everybody has to do it.
Like, one thing is, the tank's like, you're gonna have to, you have to put on that ad, and then you take the portal, and then you land on the other side, and then you're gonna have to wait until your taunt comes back to get through on that ad, and it's just gonna be running across the room, I don't know if it's actually good.
Maybe.
Is there any healing here? Maybe, like, we just have one day of OK. Healers go up the set, and then take the portal, and then they are on the right platform. Is there a gloom debuff?
Or is there something this will focus on?
It's, yeah.
That's a 75-year-old range, so we might be able to arrange it across the room.
The other thing is that just taking it didn't defuse it, it began casting again after a
one check notes, it went through to defuse it again.
Huh?
Yeah, the other side didn't go away the portal.
Yeah, the portal did so to say it was a cast.
Yeah, it re-armed after it looks like...
They're away to see the cast on?
Yeah, they're in the long, that's what I'm looking at right now.
They re-armed after about eight seconds and started having a cast problem.
What?
So it just keeps sending people through?
Yeah.
I think it's when the platform dies.
Yeah, I think the mob dying gets rid of it.
There's something that won't make it go away, obviously,
but until it goes away, it is re-hardened.
Seven pairs through six pairs.
That's a different one. Oh, the far one.
Look at the cast bar of the same class.
How long is the cast?
It's a while.
I think, right?
It's a ten-second cast.
Those are the second platform.
Oh, fuck.
You have 55 seconds to get them break their shields.
Oh what the fuck?
That's fine.
Everyone to one side at last?
Aren't they sure health?
I mean, it's like, well...
I mean, these guys are shared.
But who do you want to send through?
I mean, we can also send DPS through.
But you could mirror the DPS, right?
Yeah, yeah, you would easily mirror the DPS.
I think I did that with my groups already.
Are those your premium run-through?
We also need to...
This is to go assigned, for sure.
I mean you can try running through with an immunity that the debuff pierces everything and does not go if you die
I mean you can only it's a three-minute bone, so it's definitely not gonna be constantly happening throughout the face like I
Think that you will probably want to send Shaq in the first set and put testers on the side that he's not on
That is true actually
Shaq should definitely because if it takes the first set, that's fine
I'm just trying to see how much symmetry we have in the group
But you get a three-minute debuff, so is that the best time to send Shack through? Is that the best use of his debuff on both platforms?
Isn't that like on the second platform?
It's just the principle sending like merely one side ranged out there or if we're trying to split, right?
Okay. I can just assign, I can work on an assignment thing for this and work with Bart on a weak hour for it
But I think you guys should just keep doing P1
Yeah.
Uh, Zevi, you're doing the next couple of pulls?
No.
Oh.
Something important to us?
Something important to you is the acolytes and PT don't share health.
And the only thing to share health with the big guys is some in the balls of DEF, un-ranged,
the swirlies of DEF.
Uh-oh.
All the other P2 adds to it.
Oh, the experts and stuff?
Yeah, if they have an in-connection list, they share HP.
The line one, the pink one, and these big guys all share health.
It's just the shield guy and the mythic ones though.
So, I mean the mythic ones are like, uh,
it's the wipe if their gas goes off,
so the sides probably have to be valced.
Alright, let's go.
Check the other.
Yeah.
Come to the other side a little bit.
Can we not raise Karle Boster edge?
We, I think we have time for Likrify and Oasis.
I had just taken the boss anyway, doesn't it?
Oh.
Alright, let's go.
Yps, it's just sitting back down, it'll be fun.
dodge dodge dodge
and then liquid fire
maybe this guy is also in your group
yeah probably
immune in these routes
and then dodging lines
look at the markers
bait lines ahead and then look at the markers
those are really awkward markers
they're like a very weird line
but just look where they are now
they're very far
yeah
okay i'm trying to make it there
I'm so pleased to have you here.
Yeah.
I've been popped now.
I've been a bit early online, so...
Make sure you give room here, dodge, and then it's going to be liquid fire.
Yes.
Make room for the roots.
Go for the roots, we're breaking these.
And then roar us out.
And then it's the last combo.
Power markers, make sure you get enough to work what you want for the webs in.
Be close so I can get you.
There's a lot of turning spin.
Markers.
And dodging.
Awesome.
The kill's done, we'll save you.
And we're gonna get...
Boom!
What do you mean?
You got brah.
You got brah.
You got brah?
I'm too fast this time.
See if the corpse is gone or the thing maybe?
They still loop.
Baba, I'm not as interested in having Shaq go on the first one just with those two ends.
I think I'd rather have Shaq do that unlike the beginning of one of these platforms
so we can debuff an entire platform with that, right?
Isn't that the maybe sixth platform that would be the big one?
Like it's the second one that's the light conditions.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'd rather do that later.
I think you just send the healers first or the healers don't have to worry about
swapping the entire P2.
Then you just send the healers through before we get knocked up.
Gonna be wild above P2.
And then we're gonna spawn fucking webs in P2.
Oh fuck me.
On that fucking little platform bro.
What?
You guys are gonna have to do that or send the tanks through?
Because like, I don't think you're gonna want to have the tanks go through
when they're like running up a thing to get spiders and,
you know, shit like that or like get aggro on all the ads.
You could do tank one healer.
You could do the third one, the right one.
But it could be, it's every 12 seconds right, so how fast do you think we're doing this?
I mean isn't it, we know how many of those arts we've got.
Isn't it just one on the third, like on this platform and one on the last platform?
Yeah, all of that platform just want to get it one thing.
We don't know exactly how many casts each team does.
I can tell you that it's a three-minute bone and just from that poll alone killing that first guy
You would have had to send
Four people like like 20% of your rage just on that first ad
So I don't think it's just gonna be chain casting all p2
You would literally run out so like there's gonna be like maybe like two or three at the beginning of each
I think it is gonna be I mean if it's like
Like a rock is just the first guy and the last guy probably yeah. Yeah, might only be those guys who do it
So that's where the line is going to end.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, either way, I'm just going to have the tanks go at the very end.
Just not fuck with that for now.
And then I have...
Is there another pull?
Yeah, yeah.
You guys can do another pull.
I'm almost done.
I think we could go on the first patch, on the second of time, so that we'll have
Paul and Buck up.
I think upstairs is always just going to be sketchy because of the small notes.
Oh, sure.
Alright, I kinda get what you mean, right?
It makes sense.
That's better timing.
Okay, emulation first routes.
And then dodge lines into Rattlingston.
Dodge and waves now.
Dodge dodge dodge.
And bait liquefy.
Oop.
Emulation second routes now.
What the fuck, the dial was a bunch.
And right now, bait lines.
I have no idea why.
You all need more beanbag?
and then bait lines out and then put the rapid scenes after
look at the markers
lines now
I wrapped the toxins go
this is a big dodge and this
gets you liquid fine
and triple personal
dodge waves, dodge the lines and then liquid fire coming, now
and then make space for the people who needs to get broken, we're killing those roots
and then you roar us out after
and we dodge lines.
Get on my route, please.
Thank you.
Woo!
And then last markers, last markers here.
Make sure you face towards where you want the routes to be.
Press further a little bit.
You got what you're saying, Al.
I'm back here.
Just like this, we have lines coming in for.
You ready for the lines?
Dodge lines next to your thing.
I don't want to move now.
Pop star in three, two, one.
The same diamond early that was so diamond should have gone so much earlier
That's my brother
Just to dress heavy we still got only four stacks should be okay. My DNA is complete. I'm gonna go on early
Oh, I was just oh, we can maybe can we still do it? Maybe?
No dog
No dog is weird
Yup, I mean we can maybe
get lit keep fucking keep keep fucking you fucking don't get out of fucking
this fucking sport has stopped moving fucking fuller tip third break dude I'm
on one with a fucking bar at last that's what yeah please good luck good
luck the days here we have two people that live does that mean get up Siri
get up someone pick it's heavy come on I mean I have I have the or
order. Bart's making an aura for it right now, but what I want to do is just send, is
it okay if we just send the two healers through on the first add? First, like the four healers,
you just teach one a row, the vokers first, and then Serene and Driny, and you guys will
just dispel yourself.
So we just go to the supplies and then what?
Hello, everybody, and welcome back from that monster energy. Listen in, we just had
a few good pulls in the row, and there's quite a bit we're trying to still work
out especially something that we kind of discovered haven't seen yet Jack on that last pull that's right after they get out of the
Intermission phase keep in mind they need to break a shield worth 10% of the boss's health
Which did not seem to be too bad really of a boss burn
They were able to get through it reasonably easily with a couple of players down now as you can see right here
We've got the lava waves from the regular first phase and they drop all their aim z's because we have a massive
Explosion as we get more of those toxic froths as they detonate and deal huge
damage to the raid you also are having the rest mechanic the pole mechanic which
deals a crazy amount of damage and drops webs onto the ground so for the rest of
this phase it's just about burning the shield you can see it marked by the
blue progress bar to the middle left of THD screen they have to break that
shield in order to get out of this intermission phase yeah which is
Easier said than done, half the raid is dead, but the Archmene lust here, you can see like you mentioned,
they're just trying to save as much room as possible here when you get pulled in, you drop webs,
but they did indeed to see the breaking at this phase, in a minute here we'll see that.
I'm curious, so unlike Heroic and Lord difficulties, when they broke this shield,
we saw a handful of adds, or we saw a portal spawn in front of the two adds that teleport you around to platforms,
and it sounds like the add may swap you around?
Yeah, so what it looks like is that there's two lieutenant mobs at the end of the intermission phase, so once you break that shield,
and of course this is footage from the last pull that we just had, but we had a clean pull where they had gotten through this shield phase,
and they had the two lieutenants that you usually have to end up killing.
But what it looked like it happened was that there was a portal set between one side of the room and the other, I believe,
and it seemed like if you did not have players going through the portal regularly, then it would trigger a detonation
That would wipe out your entire raid and so what it looks like we have going on right now
Is they're looking at how they can order?
People going through the portals to still keep everybody healthy make sure that they're not baiting any of those
Things you call them falling stars that basically is a circle that drops down into one player
And it expands with these void orbs that could strike them and kill them off
So it looks like what they're trying to do is organize how they can get healers
teleporting between the portals, still keeping everybody healthy and getting
enough damage really onto those Lieutenant mobs so they can properly
start the second phase where they jump platform to platform. Right yeah they
mentioned there might be some kind of dispel as well going into those portals
which we're not really sure of as of yet but they said in that listen
early on they might be looking to swap tanks initially but there's also a
cast bar apparently on the portal we should be looking for whenever they
get back to that, which I believe is the timer that shows, I guess, how long we have to basically
go into the portal.
Right.
We saw the one through the POV we had a few poles ago actually explode with like a red arrow
indicator above it, but once again, that's not part of heroic.
We haven't seen that at all.
So, I'm assuming that a portue across the room to the opposite ad, similar to like
you had two markers, but the raid in half, but we'll see them again back to that
point.
They're getting more consistent in phase one with that web broth overlap as well.
I think they intermissioned one more time pretty clean though, but like we said when they had everybody alive and
Luss was committed at that shield that didn't look that bad. They beat the third pole in pretty easily
Ray damage wasn't terrible
Just getting more consistent and getting back to that point again
It is and it's a challenge for them
We might have to deal with the dispel mechanic that is seen on heroic where when you dispel a player just burst for a
Whole chunk of damage onto the raid
It might have to deal with that even earlier than we've seen on heroic so that might add a lot of another layer of
additional difficulty into the mix for them to contend with and so while they
could always get more pulls in and kind of see further or try to see a little bit
further they want to make sure they have a plan of action before they end up
doing that so that they're not wasting pulls or wasting attempts they've had a
couple of clean transitions into the first intermission and they've had
enough people alive that they know it's well within their control to make
sure they survive that intermission phase since it's so similar to heroic
They just have to watch and have enough space really when the rest mechanic goes out so that they can dodge out of the webs
That are spawned after you get pulled into the boss. Yeah easier than done
But this first phase is a I mean I'm gonna eventually guess this first phase is arguably the hardest part of this fight
I I can be totally wrong here, but I feel like it is just so incredibly demanding mechanically
HPS wise DPS wise and we talked about it earlier
This boss pushes on a time table. It's duration base. It's not percent base
So the lower you get the boss before that shield essentially means the lower the boss is going to be going into phase three,
which is less health to burn on the boss in that final phase, right?
We're seeing their best pull being 63.58, the last pull being 66.2.
Health is not a great indicator of progression at this current point in the fight because you might have more damage on the boss early on.
Let's say an hour or two ago, but pulling CDs off the boss, holding for that shield to break it to see further into progression with the
The intermission, the platform, the rift, ad spawning, that's the mark of progression
on this fight currently.
It's a percent, doesn't matter a crazy amount, it's worth keeping an eye on, but the biggest
thing is getting into that phase two, seeing the platform and seeing what else has changed
from her with the mythic.
And in order to get there, they need to make sure they're surviving this first phase
as there's a plethora of mechanics that are able to kill you off.
As you can see, the bubbles of venom off to the sides is the froth.
They need to make sure one player is touching that froth to leap them up into the air above the Venom waves that the boss is going to be spawning.
You also have to stagger the detonations of the frost on Mythic difficulty in order to ensure that it's not going to wipe out the raid.
If you pop two of the Venom frost back to back, you're going to instantly wipe out the team.
Now right there, we only had two of the Venom frosts going out.
The next wave is going to have three, and then just before the intermission phase, there's going to be four.
Yep, which means you have to split the raid basically even in four soaks unlike to making it harder to deal with in general
If one player dies or two died froths early on or web relapse, whatever it becomes even harder
It just spirals so fast because if you don't have the correct proportion
If you don't have an even split of players in the spit
You might as well be you don't have an even split of players in these froths as you are sending them up into the air
It actually adds stacks, oh my goodness, it adds stacks.
It's like detonation, I know.
Right here, give it like five seconds, you're going to see a big burst of damage onto the raid.
And a big contributor to this is because there's an uneven spread of players in those three broths.
And you're going to have four coming up.
And so if a player is dead, as those four go off, it's almost certainly going to be a wipe.
It's so insanely important to survive.
So you have to make another round of dodges from these web lines going out.
They do have a death right now. They're going to try to make sure.
Oh, okay. So this is exactly what I was talking about.
They don't have a battle res available to everybody.
You're going to have four frosts going out in quick succession onto this one.
And it might just be a wipe as they could probably lose like five or six players
because of the imbalance that's going to happen for these incoming detonations.
Keep an eye on it here. It's going to happen in about 15 or 20 seconds.
Yep, we're going to have these three pops coming in here.
It should be a circle into diamond in the triangle to avoid this ring being cast out by the boss here.
We do lose you, Peter, unfortunately coming out for this spread.
And like Jack said, here comes that incoming damage right about...
Oh, give or take.
Three.
Yeah, there!
Yeah.
Like, just the ring gets chunked. We lose big poppy here as well as Trenacco.
And that's just from one or two players being down with that uneven stagger amount, like, just soak-wise, right?
This phase one demands almost perfection, which has been a trend
there most of these fights.
Kai-Vez or Sophie Court.
Yeah, I mean, but this is what you get, you know, in a world
first setting.
You see them also just being as tight as they possibly can as
far as the stacks of concern, saving space here.
We're doing deep pushing into their mission.
That blue bar on the screen here
is the actual shield in the box,
which are burning through pretty fast here
with less being committed as well.
They do have five down here, but as long as they
can live through this next grip, which is going to be
a lot of right damage coming in in about, I think,
10-ish seconds here, they should be able to see this
intermission coming up again. Yeah, I believe we're going to get another chance as
the final rest. No. It's so much damage. That is the rest that they need to beat
with their damage. That's just to be clear, if they had everybody alive, they
would beat that third, I believe it's the third. Yeah. The third and final of the
rest, it just grabs all the players and pulls them into the
boss dealing increasing amounts of damage. They beat that with everybody alive.
If everybody was alive, they also would take less damage from the froth detonations as well,
the toxic detonations hitting the raid, and everything would be golden there.
So right now in progression, it's kind of a matter of saying like, okay, hey, this person
died, okay, was it a mistake?
Was it an error?
Do we need any externals on that kind of person?
How do we make sure you survive?
Okay, it was a little error, whoopsie daisy on your part.
All right, we figured it out.
Let's get it clean.
Yeah.
I think the big thing to hit on here was consistency.
It might not seem like it, but they are being surprisingly consistent when it comes to getting better and better in this first phase.
We saw them wiping to like the three-pop, the three-froth set at the start of our casting block.
It's now become the fourth, and it's now sort of become, they're getting through that fourth-froth-pop pretty easily.
Even at times of players being dead, it's that second and then third grip if it lasts that long in the intermission on the shield.
But that's almost two back-to-back holes where they've broken that shield, and that's the next frog point.
seeing those two adds, seeing the portals, and seeing where the fight goes from there
in that phase two intermission comparatively to heroic.
Yeah, at this point they have made it very comfortably towards always having players alive
entering the three froth drop, and now they need to make sure everybody's alive for the
fourth froth drop.
And when they do that, they have a greater degree of consistency getting into the intermission
phase with everybody alive.
If everybody's alive entering into that intermission phase, it's almost the same as what you would see at a heroic
except for extra webs getting dropped onto the ground where their positioning has already been maxed out.
They know where they need to move for that, they break those shields and then they have a very smooth intermission transition.
Then they can start working on how they deal with those portals that we saw.
They've even seen Yps and Scott dragging the boss pretty deep back into the webs and the green puddles from the previous sets
to just drop, drop pools in there if they can spawn them,
saving every little bit of room possible.
If that shield phase is drawn out, you want to have every little bit for web drops
and just general raid safety because it's not just the webs and intermission,
you also have those big green globs you're dodging,
which for one tiny pie slice, it's, you're going into a web at that point.
And you have to make sure nobody's stacking up with each other either.
Yep, because there's also going to be with the rest, with the pull-in,
there also is going to be a circle around everybody that's going to cleave them, too.
Yeah, there is a tremendous amount of area of denial in this fight, but it demands perfection.
This is what you would basically expect in a race to play at first.
This boss is surprisingly been pretty fun to watch.
I thought phase one would be a little... honestly, I'm mythic, like, compared to Roic.
It sort of rinsed me repeat, but with that third and fourth trough being added to the first phase,
and the cadence changing out of webs, and the intermission putting actual webs down when you're pulled in,
this is definitely a different fight from Roic.
I'm excited to progress by it actually.
I like this a lot since it is rewarding you for good control.
And what this really means is that high mobility classes like Mage for example or a Voker are
going to have more tools than others to ensure that they are going to be able to get out
of webs a little bit faster or adjust their positioning and the intermission a little
bit better.
And so they need to use those resources to basically make more free space for the
less mobile specs like the priests or the paladins or something along those lines so that they have
space to get pulled in, they have space to make sure they're dodging some of the other waves or
liquefies going out, and so the entire team has to use all these resources at their disposal
to make it easier for everybody else, and then you're rewarded with a lot of space around the room.
Yeah, which is what we're looking for here. Getting back into another poll, we have basically
that 234 froth stack coming out, which we are looking to, like we said, maximize as much
room as possible around the actual boss's platform. They have that week order for that
pre-spread coming in, trying to get it not so they don't overlap with these two froth pool
spawns alongside that web stack there. Like I mentioned, we're popping these froths basically
staggered like one second apart from one another. This is the easy pop with two froths. You're
going to see a bit of web coming in after this momentarily into a three stack froth
And that fourth stack, which is where that prog point sort of has been for the last half hour or so, give or take.
The boss being pulled, as you can see, way back into the webs, and the previously dropped green, like, fail pools here,
to maximize every little bit of movement. Look at that little pathway they made there.
Yeah.
That's perfect, the players right against the green, dropping those webs as well for the maximum area possible.
You can see they're also trying to make good use out of their emeralds.
There's other dream flights onto this fight since they can have everyone like pixel stacked very early on in the encounter before they spread
I love seeing their cool-down management where early on in the fight
They can make sure everyone gets stacked up together really quickly and then afterwards
They don't really have as much time before you have to spread for all the waves and the danger continuously increases over time and right here
They're going to be, yep, we have the three pop going into it.
Just making sure that they're staggering those three pops as best they can, then running
out and dropping their detonations.
You're going to see a big burst of damage onto the raid right now, and then they're
going to get every stack that once again, Bumi goes down, but they do have a battle
res available and this is where they need to get them up and then have all players
properly spread out between the four frosts that are about to get dropped.
Yep, saying gets read by those roots there, broken just in time for the webs come out like Jack just mentioned.
We're going to see these four frost debuffs coming out here.
This is the one that went to make you see the markers already put down here actually.
They place these in front of the boss and then once they actually drop the bosses then drag through them for maximum amount of melee uptime.
One, two, three and four, star, circle, diamond and triangle here in the same pop order.
Star, Circle, Diamond and Triangle to jump over that boss's effect. It's coming in. It should see
pops coming up right after these webs and quickly after this getting into your froth so you don't
I guess mistack that froth pop order 1, 2, 3 and there's four hopping over. We don't lose anybody
here but watch for that big damage event coming in in about five or so seconds here. This is what
you got to make it through. If we can make it through this AMZ comes down here. If we can
make it through this, which we do the whole way to life here, we're going to be seeing less
being committed to this shield here. Shield's already up. This is what we're saving this room
room in the room. Drop these webs when you're gripped in here.
Yeah, they have two players going down into this one, but it's looking very clean. Otherwise,
we've had some pretty messy starts to this intermission for a while. I think with two
players down, they have more than enough damage to crack the shield. And you can see the
progress bar at the top of Yip's screen as about 10% health remaining. They lose
two more players, but they just need to beat this final rest and they have more
than enough damage. Here we go. Getting ourselves started with the first bit of phase two.
Yes, these adds spawn here. Look at this rift as well. So, we believe they're going to send
tanks through this rift first. See the shadow gate timer is there needing somebody to go
through. Yep, so I believe that shadow gate timer is based on somebody going through
the portal to fulfill that need of like requiring one person to transfer to one side to the
other. Yep, look at that. Drani comes through from the other side with a debuff on him.
Look at that. So Drani came from the other side with a debuff on him. He needs to
to spare drops of void pool on the ground all while tanking this ad killing this ad ads are dead
all right this is going to be a phase two push not clean let's see what these platforms look like
oh right here we can see they have the shadow gate timers oh well as the two ads that need to get
picked up as rapidly as they can they also still have the same line mechanic they have to worry
about this side doesn't have the rest of the pull in just yet here it's coming it might explain
as to why the other team had died previously here comes the draw in they're not bad double
jumps. A couple of the already dead players have their corpses pulled off the platform
and we're making some progress.
So there are literally shadow gates on every single platform in this phase it looks like.
So you're constantly rotating players from one platform to the next which bring that
debuff that needs to be dispelled that drops a void pool. So it's area of denial, debuff
management and just transferring one player from one side to the next every single,
10 seconds or so to fulfill that void portal need right? That's a different phase from Heroic 4
for sure. That's very cool. Wow that really is. That's some fantastic progress. Keep in mind
Boss Health on this fight is not going to tell you the full story okay so we're getting for
the first time I know it was 64 percent instead of the 63 percent we've seen earlier but we've
seen more of the encounter. You've gotten to see the lieutenants once again and you can see those
shadow gates off to the left side transferring players and it looks like we're trading healers
as you can see one evoker goes in and a new one comes out dropping off those debuffs getting
dispelled and an extra burst of aoe damage hitting the party. Yep you can see that the spell in
the top left corner there you should see another player coming through here this might be
trying to come through the corner right there it's actually you can see at the top right
They're heading through getting a spell in that corner putting that void area deny up pool down both ads are gonna die here
It's the same knock as heroic, but watch when you get to this platform
There's another void shadow portal in the back of the room
You can see it right there which requires that one person to be committed to it every 10 seconds to swap sides or it explodes
And does damage and I believe
One of these portals right there. It's pulsing damage actually nobody went through fast enough
It might even be a shorter timer than 10 seconds
we thought we had in this first platform.
Right there, a transfer coming in,
that dispel in the back of the room.
That dispel, a couple with this grip coming in right here,
which is not too powerful, but the dispel,
the grip, the beam to dodge there.
As you say that.
In full ads, that might make that intermission
quite demanding, but wow, that's really cool.
That adds a lot of volatility to that phase.
Oh, it really does, and it's no surprise
as to why Liquid is taking a second
and trying to map out their positioning, where they're going,
and what the game plan is really going to be,
as it's becoming a lot more consistent for the fight,
especially when phase one can be so scripted early on.
You've kind of seen a few of the different combinations
of when the froth drops can happen to different players,
and now it's just time to map those things out
and get ready to execute.
Yeah, more and more consistency as the day moves forward,
which is exactly what you want to see,
especially when it's this early in the day,
It's still only 12 PM here, local time.
So with that, we're going to let them get back to progging
and we're going to head to a monster energy listen in.
And in the meantime, get some more casters in.
Thank you guys so much.
Let me see.
Oh, those markers were bad, I think.
On the last set, I could be wrong, but I'll double check.
Too close to the middle.
Well, let me see.
He feels safe enough to step me,
but I'm going to be on the level.
I'm in hell in the intervention.
I don't know if I could step you.
I could try, I guess.
I mean, I'm going to be standing in a web if your health is okay during that for one website. I can stand right on the edge of it.
Let's see.
As phase.
Do the intermission.
There's two people.
Where's the green here?
Yeah, that's the green.
That's where the back of the boss.
Okay.
So yes, we can.
It's just because diamond and triangle were so far.
Well, to not get it there at all, we pushed over into just start over.
You just start on the room in a different spot, basically.
Okay.
Because I think the green will grow into the back when I was looking at it.
Okay.
Then I don't want to know.
Okay.
New food.
Okay.
I think the alarms basically have to have...
Wake up.
Alright, Debbie.
You go through and you just...
Debbie and Nick, you guys, Darnian and Saris, they'll go to the wrong side for now.
But like I think as long as Evie and Nick take it like last second
I think we can uh, I think we can beat the second one
Everyone needs to take the portal at second by the way and and what we
Really need to try to do is we need to try to make it so your side can only see your thing
But that's that's worked on at the moment. Can you guys see the cast bars?
Like in game, it's when they turn red, right?
They're friendly name plates, so it's
Yeah, if you're playing with a friend in Ampliates 4, players in Ampliates 4 have a lot of heart.
Look at Seng's few of you here.
Don't they just simply glow red when they have one second left?
Yeah, they start to get a graphic one that's close to the one up.
Is that three seconds left?
What do you think?
Someone said two, but I don't remember.
I can check my bot because I have the...
It looks like three to me.
So Seng right here sees it go red at fight time...
...3.27, but it's possible the other one...
It's I think didn't check the grab I got just look to the bottom see the two or three seconds for that
But in terms of like they start recasting two seconds after they the person gets the volume for taking them
Yeah, so you just take it last second
So red is a good indicator. You should never take a portal before it turns red
But even within red you can milk it is basically the idea
We'll try to make the week or as good as possible
Okay
Do you wait before you pull or anything or are we I?
I think we probably just go. I assume that's gonna take a little bit.
It'll definitely take a bit, because it's complicated that there are one.
I also think those ads on the platform don't have that much. I think if everyone's alive, I think that stuff will probably die pretty fast.
I think you want to not really delay the dispels, I think just instead of the spell.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's because we were kind of healthy when you guys were...
We're starting to start.
Wait, wait, wait.
We're gonna go right?
We're going right.
We're simply just starting on a new...
Oh, we're supposed to start halfway through right? All right. No, it's fine. It doesn't matter
It's because the exact back of the boss is like a green pool right now
The shadows that doesn't work
Yep
Okay, go back here. I was definitely late
All good. That was scary
You are God's strongest champion buddy.
Lickify, save space.
Roots here.
Lines right after.
Okay, do lines here.
And then we're getting another set of lines into reactives.
Just spread it a little bit.
Yep, spread now.
Reactives.
Cut them over, don't leave.
Ooh.
Watch these, or get bubble.
You got it.
Watch the suck.
This is Lines and Lickify.
Dodge, dodge, Lickify, three, two, one, now.
Okay, Roots here.
Give them room in front.
Give them room, give them room.
So open the next right some mr.. Dutcher everyone blast these ads which one is it?
Okay, yeah, you can start who can talk about coffee
Not me
Okay, let's do it. Thank you 1.5
Reaction option free spread make sure you get knocked to your spot here
That's fine fine
Roots and in dodge lines thoughts lines
That's lines lines lines popping star lip in three two one now
Orange
Diamond
Prangle dodge now five stacks a little bit harder than normal
Three save your mandate to getting sucked
In five seconds make sure nice and top for this about three two one
Keep going getting sucked in eight. We might be able to be actually
Suck? Alright, make the bar move.
Saying that was deadly, bro.
Yeah, I'm trying to...
Supply to get split, sir.
Cap of 10, cap of 10.
Come on! Come on!
Stop!
Come on!
Don't, don't, don't stop!
Don't stop!
It's not looking good.
It's not looking good, fellas.
It's back.
By the way, Scott, every time we are here, this shield breaks, then that will be your war, so people can get to the other side.
Yeah.
because like it's the only thing that will be possible.
When you're on a couple things, we keep missing action on the beginning, right?
Yeah.
Thank you.
I was going to say that we will never have it for the first suck because then we are
just not like we are doing first routes, that's a 7.
And to 7 he's also doing last route in P1.
Ike is doing 2nd route to the FG3 and 2nd grip at 3.04
So he would have been the only one that earlier come up and no one else comes up
and everyone else well we can remove tanks if we need
I don't think there are any needs paradox now but that's off the series to say
We have uh we had the times for earlier
I think I'm fine with all the things
If we had the times for earlier we had someone missing that time on earlier use
so well someone knows you know next was up for this is right yeah the second
suck or you see the first one is what he said about it's the first one we
talked about the first suck we had nothing oh you're right yeah next was
on cooldown for five seconds I think that's fine though at least if you say
if he didn't sign could drop paradox and then yeah yes I agreed that's fine
This is the response I get when I ask about the bird.
Are we good to go by the way?
Okay, we absolutely have to like keep cd'ing the route separate.
I agree, Kronar.
That we're killing.
Maybe, I think for now, yeah.
I mean, just look at this, it'll continue damaging.
I'm gonna...
I won't die with just me doing them to...
I mean, we're just gonna be very useless in the intermission damage rooms because our cooldowns come up like right before it like it ends, but that means that we can do like all the Ailee on the first platform if there's a lot.
list in the intermission damage runs because our cooldowns come up like right before it
like it ends but that means that we can do like all the Ailee on the first platform if there is a lot
that's probably good you're gonna need a mixed match of some things yeah i think it's good we
get that storm during the intermission one of the sphere i think we'll do fine but yeah it's
most defenseless but we we carry the roots in P1 so dks are breathing in the intermission so
their breath will come up second platform so i think that's actually fine okay the shield
had 95 million right the toolset I saw on the shield ad it's for with both sides
though like I feel like that shield ad is gonna get absolutely crushed
the shield ad on the first floor the shield turns here right that's what you
reset oh the shield doesn't last long share HP
no I acolyte and shield doesn't sound fired up
uh you're really there not too far I think a couple of people are just up
right now. Yes, right?
Does the developer
is back in the communities?
It's physical, right?
I think when you're physical,
mean you'll probably be fine.
So it's been a while
since I looked at it.
Okay, I just want to pop
you in just 30, say in the middle,
like underneath the
the ball. I mean,
eggs out if you're able to step
now,
get off about it,
option on someone else.
It's probably so good.
I'll tell you.
Okay.
Nothing about it seems
to me. So I thought
so you'll be able to step
the first one the second one is gonna you're gonna step into webs because we're
putting webs where the first yeah I mean I feel like you can just step as long
as you step boss on first one that will work like here's what that looked like
the boss's ass is right there you are about you're vibing right
Is there any bopping?
Yep.
That was last pull.
I'm bopping.
You can take on the first one.
Can you set that back?
Man, I can set that anyway.
I'm just saying, I just take a lot of damage, that's just.
We aren't going to be taking any of those shots, right?
I mean, I must have missed with a thing.
He can externally as well, if needed.
Because if the impact's getting bopped,
he won't be in the shoot, right?
Well, like, if it's a skill pull,
I want to bop the impact, you know what?
The impact you're going to just sit underneath the bop
to see if he does, because I think he'll be fine.
Well, then you spawn back to your backpack.
The web is pretty bad.
Yeah, but it'll be literally underneath the boss
inside of the tower circle.
That will grow out of there very fast.
But yeah.
Would it be good if DK's went to the left side of the ship
and makes up and stuff us on the left?
Right gap.
Show me where that is.
Let's see.
Apparently, stuff me in the shit on the right,
but we could just go hard left instead.
It's kind of where we're going.
If we do get down, we shouldn't need that part of the run.
It's not a similar thing.
Going hard left is fine on the second one.
I did it one pull and it seemed okay.
Like one pull, I did go hard, hard, hard left.
I think hard right is good on the first one.
Yeah, I think hard right on the base is good.
And then left on the second one, you can put it anywhere.
Just like live and then break him.
Thanks on that.
I do need a better word of the rest.
A couple of people got up there and went bio.
I mean I kind of I need to be kind of close
Yeah, I'll just try the boss part this bowl
Is the is the evoker room too cold again?
Now right now up racing people out we engineered just needed some gamer warms
Starting here now. Yeah, that's the plan
He was like 50 degrees last night
There's something with the system here takes but yeah
The intermission seems like I'm not worried about not less thing there
I think because the reality is you're lusting it for many many poles
Like the only time you'd even be incentivized to take less away is when you're really worried about boss damage
And I feel like that is a phase where
Being in it 20 times will increase your damage and absolutely insane amount
Okay, like a pie soon
Lickify here second roots. It's the double line to pair after this
The line is number one now
Okay, and then we're getting a second pair of lines in five seconds
We're pre-spreading for reactive toxins and going on the markers
Okay, lines are out now and
Reactives are out very good
Okay, we're dodging lines here move away move away and then move back lines now
Lickify is in three one now
Res recue gives face. This is our last area, right?
Okay, sure. Yeah, Riz. Oh, Riz three, Riz three, Riz three. Break these out, break these out. Warriors are hard carrying this. We need help. Riz two's dead. Oh, okay. Never mind. Fuck Riz two.
That's bad on that.
If we didn't get one, we'd probably get one now. First one, first one.
Grab reactor toxins now. Roots are going out.
Reading, reading. Three, two, one, now. Good. And then we're just dodging lines. Dodging lines next to your soak.
Watch lines, a popping star in 3, 2, 1, now.
Orange, diamond, triangle.
Five stack, it's gonna hit really hard.
Pop, two, one.
Big suck in 3, 2, 1, now.
I mean, we have no way of beating free with this minute dead, right?
Watch list. Passion.
Passion, passion damage.
Number two's getting hard to suck too, but we have a rally for it.
Oh, wait, we're actually might.
Getting sucked in 3, 2, 1, now.
Everyone lives. Oh shit. There's a fuck that coming from the middle
All good fucking guys and my can hit him hit the boss
He was damned you nothing to heal except for everyone dying
In webs is that it's we're dead
The web's actually fucked us there
We have really bad web placement. Was that yours in the mill in fact? Did you try?
Oh, okay.
On the side.
Did you like try to go inside the devourer?
No, I went right.
There was one real far up, although.
Were the melee deaths in P1 just use?
Yeah, that was really bad.
Yeah, I might also just mentally boom.
It's been painful.
Welcome back to the team, Liquid Erased World first here.
To me, it is still morning.
We were up late yesterday with a very crazy after dark.
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Now, we did get good progress in these last couple of tries specifically.
We've been seeing that that phase two with a lot of portals happening. We have been yeah, I was here for the last shift and
They started making a lot of progress about the last half hour or so breaking that intermission shield
Which is 10% of the boss's health and getting into that
Platform transfer part which has some void portals on mythic unlike heroic mechanic coming in as well pretty exciting try this
Yeah
So I've been watching and listening to comms and trying to figure out how exactly that mechanic works
And it sounds like the way it works is that for the entirety of phase two there are going to be board point portals between the two sides and
Every so often they're going to start to explode and to prevent them from actually exploding
You need to send somebody through on both sides and swap them to the other side of p2
Now there's also a vulnerability associated with doing this that means you can only do it once during the phase
So you're gonna have to probably have all ten players on each side swapping
Once during that phase and that's gonna be part of the enrage of that phase on mythic is when you run out of people who can
Who can stop that portal who can diffuse that bomb by going through once you do go through you do also drop a puddle
Underneath you after a bit. So I also deny a little bit more space in the phase
But all in all I'm not too worried about that mechanic. Actually, I think they'll be able to handle it reasonably well
We could hear already some weak aura is being developed to get the the cast bars for it and make it so that they go in at
The last second and maximize that time so
This kind of travel gives you a debuff.
So you can't send the same players back and forth the entire time.
So there is a little bit of a hard out on how many
of these portals you can take in that entire intermission where
once all 10 players and I would maybe even save just
eight pairs because or nine pairs because the tanks if they go it could
be difficult. You have to find a time to swap the tanks when they don't
don't have aggro on anything. Yeah, so it can work, but it can't work.
Exactly. So I would say on a safer side, it's probably nine of these portals that we can take
through that entire phase two. Yeah, nine to ten, and it looks like the
week where they have has about a ten-ish second countdown for the portal. So we're assuming
probably about a minute and a half or so for that intermission needs to be done,
maybe a minute 40, 50-ish depending on if there's some leeway. I heard there was
like a four-second leeway they could get on after some of those casts. Okay.
And if you finish a platform, it will turn off any portals that are on that platform.
So you could potentially milk an extra few seconds on a platform too.
So I think they can drag this phase out to two and a half, maybe,
but yeah, we'll have to get the numbers on that once they actually get through it.
It does look pretty sketchy.
It reminds me a little bit of kind of the disauthimistic phase where it's like,
okay, actually all of our hearts of Azeroth need to get used now.
And there's not very much room for error here.
We won that one, though.
We did win that one.
We did win that one.
Yeah.
Right.
So you have the competition as well.
Ekko are back on this boss now as well after a slightly nastier weekly than Liquid
encountered yesterday.
Yeah.
A bit of a hiccup on Nexus Prince as it seemed like.
Which doesn't surprise me.
That boss did not get much easier.
Like, you know, plus one reset worth of gear, minus one vent is ruined.
Boss is not much easier.
Yeah.
Because I think we're talking about, I think, like an hour's give or take.
Yeah.
They are right here.
I believe they're ending, getting towards the end of their day now, starting really
for their reset.
But at the same time, they do have basically whatever Liquid's done in this first half of our day to replicate on their own strategy-wise,
which it happens both ways.
It goes both ways.
Whichever Guild reaches the boss first, they're in charge of, hey, make a strat.
You have the Guild, hey, we can probably emulate that strat with our own little tweaks to it.
But we'll see where it goes.
Liquid has about a solid 10 to 11 hours left in the day for all just pure prog and intrak.
We're here.
Yeah, not really anything else to do today.
I don't think maybe a couple m plus during some breaks or something. Yeah, maybe we'll see whether or not they're going there
But I feel like we've been seeing really great
Rock on this boss because looking at it yesterday
I wasn't sure how much of a breaker the intermission was gonna be how difficult that face one was gonna be there were talks about
Oh, maybe there's five frosts and stuff like that
Thankfully, it's only quote-unquote for and we've been getting through that first intermission
really really well a couple of times already today that allowed us then see
that face too and I'm quite excited to maybe see that face three to be fair
face three on this boss sounds insane and it is a long boss fight so that is
probably just in sheer terms of time gonna be taking a lot because every
single time you get back there you first have to get through everything
else on this boss it is a rather lengthy ish one and then you progress
Phase 3, so by the nature of how prog-ing works, that'll put us on a couple of hours more.
But so far, looking really good here on that progress.
Yeah, they've been very consistent today getting to the next progression point.
The next progression point, we saw it at the start of my last shift when it was Jack, myself, and Aya.
We had that triple-froff thing, sort of like their choke point, a little bit, trying to find some more room for the boss.
Like, just to minimize or maximize every little bit of space in the room possible.
We've seen them start getting through the three froths really easily, seeing the tanks pull the boss all the way to the webs to maximize room fully.
Then it was four froths, they've gotten there pretty easily. Now we're looking at that intermission and push it to that next progression point.
And one actual little minor adjustment they've made is they've changed where they're starting on the platform by a few degrees
so that the boss's back, which is always in a fixed position in the intermission, is not in the gunk anymore
so that Exile can shadow step to the boss during the intermission, so
these little optimizations are gonna keep coming in to
help them get little bits more safety and boss damage.
Right now they're committing a lot of resources to the intermission that I don't think will be there on the kill,
like Mad Queen's mandates are being held for it.
So in the long run, where do you think we'll see that blutlust being used?
Because right now I feel like we're pushing it as kind of like progress lost.
First it was in the first phase, now second, so on and so on.
But where will it land in the end?
Because I feel like the damage on phase one is actually pretty valuable.
It does push the boss down to wherever you stand once that 230 marker hits.
So it is real boss HP that you're getting there, but maybe it's not the best situation.
Yeah, I mean it could be phase one.
I think phase three coming out of phase two and the boss is sort of like stationary
in the middle of room could be a pretty good place for it.
You can just get pure boss burn, no room mechanics going on.
It might bleed over a little bit into that first tank add drop debuff.
There's no like, portal movement going on, you're just hitting the boss, just do it with
your offense.
So like at the very beginning of phase three?
Right, when phase two ends and you're just hanging in middle of R-P-ing, likely a lusping
move there if possible.
The shield's still pretty demanding right now, but for the most part they've had like
one or two players dead I think for most phase like, shield pushes and the shields
would have blown up with lusps being committed there.
I wouldn't be surprised if by their time you're seeing lust pull off that shield
I don't think this boss dies with that intermission being lusted. I don't think so. Yeah, that seems like a completely not
Realistic way to do the boss
I think that the the intermission is gonna go down with you know some CDs
But I think they're probably the main thing is just 20 players and optimized damage and not too much commitment of mandates and lust
I agree with you that the start of P3 seems like a tempting option for the lust long term
It's a little bit better to lust late in the fight than early in the fight if everybody's popping their cooldowns this tier
Because you're getting those those spotmasters stacks and all your casters
Which is really nice
So if there's a spot like the start of p3 if you don't have to send a lot of cooldowns in p2 to escape p2
And everybody has them up at the start of p3. I like that a lot
Otherwise makes I think on pole makes a lot of sense too and you just do that for maximum boss damage
It could be a double less scenario actually at this point
That's what my next question is going to be. How long is phase 2 really?
I don't think this fight breaks that 10 minute marker.
It doesn't on Heroic, and I don't think P2 is going to be that much longer on Mythic than it is on Heroic.
Well, there might be a secret Mythic phase.
There might be. And if there is some kind of secret Mythic phase, then the double lust angle is probably good.
But I think this is going to be a single lust encounter.
I suspect it's going to be something like a 9-met 30-10-minute kill on Mythic.
That works. I mean, every little bit of damage on the boss is also relevant in Phase 1, like we talked about.
It's not percentage-based, it's duration-based, so their best pull, I believe, is CS, still 63.58,
which occurred, I think, like two hours ago, right? That was the lowest percent they had the boss going into that phase.
Oh yeah, less percent per fake here.
I mean, essentially, yeah, like, chances are very high they pulled CDs off of the boss in phase 1 before the shield again, or move them to the shield more so.
So they're not getting the bosses low, they're holding Mag Queens, Van Nates, and things for that shield to break through it.
So health percent on this boss, as of right now, is not the best indicator where guilds are at progression-wise.
It's more just roll around in the fight.
Mm-hmm. Alright, we're gonna be going back in here.
Raiders are taking a little bit longer between poles to set stuff up.
As you heard in that Lancer Energy Listen-In, there's a lot that still needs to be tweaked,
needs to be attuned to make sure that it's working in the way that helps them the best.
So that is exactly what we're seeing between those tries, just a little bit of coordination.
Also, in case you haven't noticed already, looking at Scott's UI here,
that target frame is absolutely out of place and you will now not be able to unsee it.
you're welcome. That's what Target and Target? Oh, that target frame is his player frame, yeah.
Perfect. Looks like he's also got Queen Hintzark on focus as well.
Yeah, I thought it might have been Target and Target, but that is a focus frame, yeah. Yeah,
I mean, they're interesting. Yeah. See, if I had to see it, you had to see a two-chart. I'm
sorry. Interesting. Well, maybe it's because the average of the target and Target and Target
Frame are about in the right spot. Something like that. Sure, yeah, it works. The middle
I don't know about that. It's just so I was saying maybe it's a scaling issue
We're at home. It actually is on a line horizontally, but man
He's here and I'm there for a reason. I'm not gonna question his UI
I'm not taking mythic Queen Antrex for world first. I'm just sitting here talking about it
So my UI is fully aligned just to clarify. All right. I will say I I do not love the
the 5x5 square of all his abilities.
Something about that is just hard for me to look at.
Yeah.
It doubles as a weak aura.
I think it does.
Yeah, it's convenient.
I mean, it accomplishes the important goals of a UI,
which is putting your buttons near the middle of your screen
so you're not looking too far away.
It's just something about it feels wrong.
Yeah, it's because it's actually a 6x5,
and then the bottom two rows are just a little smaller,
but in a weird way.
Don't let that at all.
And that one is centered.
Like, if you look at the character model, it is centered,
but just the target is not where it's supposed to.
Right.
Yep, all right, so this is gonna be that next choke point
in the fight they're getting into.
This is gonna be that quad froth pop here,
coming in right after this next set of webs.
There's a nasty overlap where you have to, like,
pre-position to be near your froth pool,
but not close enough where you'll basically die to it.
You have to be, like, near the person that has it,
Putting it in front of the boss here, we're going to drop the four froths. We're going to get tigers luster with a roar here to pull the boss through, and then soak these four pools, star, circle, diamond, and triangle. One, two, three, and four.
Yep, there's first pop coming in, circle pops here, diamond, next three, and that fourth pop should be coming in about now.
So we all make it through pretty good. Tchaikovsky goes down here, we have no res available, but the big thing here is that incoming rate damage in about three seconds here. As long as we can live through this, we should be okay.
With one player dead, it does hurt quite a bit more.
You get an extra stack for each broth that you soak,
and you'll get extra stacks
based on whichever ones have more or less players
than the average.
So, with a player dead, you're gonna have a player missing,
means you're gonna get five stacks of that explosion,
which does hurt quite a bit.
We've seen Jernako going down as well.
The rest of them trying their best
to get through this intermission still.
You can see they've done more than half
of that 700 million shield.
A damage does start to slow down
as the players are also getting slowed now.
And we do lose dry in here as well,
filming, unfortunately,
we should be able to stagger on long
up to do that intermission again,
though that blue bar approaching
sub 10% in this shield here,
we will indeed be third polling.
Right about here, we should.
Yep, shield is down.
So we're going to be splitting the rate
left and right here.
Please on that boss.
We're moving.
Maybe in the best.
We're good.
Rocked in.
It's fine.
This is a prod poll.
It is a prod poll,
but a chat only cares about the percentage number.
So.
Well, that's why chat's there and right here.
So that was actually a portal that looked like, correct?
Yeah.
I'm not even sure. There shouldn't have been one exploding just yet.
I think we saw...
Yes, look here. Interestingly enough, there's no dispels on this portal,
but there were two on the other one.
Was there a mix-up in...
Yeah, so maybe somebody went through the A portal twice
instead of an NB portal.
Maybe there's something bad that happens if you do that.
Might have been a mix-up there, unfortunately.
Interesting.
We'll try to see if we can get that up on the replay here,
Well, we definitely want to see what exactly went wrong there, but just a quick reminder. Yeah, there we go
The boss does go away once that shield is over
So there will not be progression in terms of boss HP, but rather in what you can see but here is that moment
Let's see if we can figure out exactly what's happening here
So the portal does get an animation when it's starting its cast up above it
You can see that animation there that red thing saying okay
Somebody come soak me we saw Nick go in and and heavy going into the same portal and that looks like it wipes them
So yeah, I think what has to happen here is you can't send two people into one portal before you've sent one person
Into the other portal on the other side. I think the explosion was me on the side though, wasn't it?
Like yeah, let's look here. So we see Nick go in right about in second to here
There's Nick there's a look from the left bottom part of the screen
Yeah, it's the explosion from the bottom. I believe it is right cuz nobody went near their portal, correct?
Yeah, so maybe they just were slow to get through the other portal or maybe sending a second person through one
Before anybody's got a portal is back. Maybe that kills right because you can see him
I think no one went in on the other. Yeah, so here's a perspective on the other side. Yeah that portal is definitely highlighted like hey somebody come
So we should see nick come through right about now there's nick appearing
So there's one to spell from nick what should happen about probably when he dies realistically, but there's devi as well
So they both come through the explosion. Yeah
The explosion is like right after 7 comes through so I'm not sure if they were slow on this portal or if it was the second person coming through.
Interesting, interesting, interesting.
Like this shouldn't happen either way but it's probably worth testing out.
Oh we've got NixPoV now. Yeah okay you can see there's a cast bar above it and that interrupted that cast.
And then we have a cast bar over this portal and that cast bar finished so I think we can say with some certainty here that it wasn't two people going through.
It was just the fact that that one portal exploded.
Great detection.
Didn't have anybody go through the portal on this side in time.
Probably a bit of a mix-up on each side, but I think...
However, Nick has set up this cast bar is really good, I think, and if that is possible to
get for everybody on this portal, that will probably be ideal, because that seems...
Yeah.
I mean, the Shadowgate cast bar?
Yeah, look at the portal there.
The one above the raid frames is...
I'm not even talking about the one above the raid frames.
Oh, you're talking about the one on the portal?
But that's the same thing.
So, he has actually a weak aura for these casts, I would assume.
Those weak auras, they were talking about those, but one problem with those is that you don't know which portal is your, like which one is referring to your side and the others.
I thought if it interrupts maybe the weak aura vanishes so you can see if somebody didn't go.
So they are 10 second casts, but then there is a bit of a delay between those casts, looks like.
Interesting.
Yeah, getting back to that prog point multiple times here though, very good to see from them being very consistent this morning.
Yeah, it's very good indeed
Looks like they are thinking about that bulls while looking at what happened there
We've got to assign sets of two players to go through and an interesting problem is going to be yeah
If we do need to send a tank set we have to find a time to be able to do that
Otherwise we need to think about swapping our DPS in such a way that we're not going to lose
You know damage or uneven our damage too much for when we do get to those middle platforms, right?
So talking about that is kind of a discussion that we had once we saw answer it for the first time
What is the comp going to be it all depends on that second phase what the ads are looking like and so on now that we know
There's there's a lot of back-and-forth portaling. Do we have any thoughts on on the specs that we have in the rate?
I don't know. I mean like there's not a whole lot of flexibility
I don't think necessarily here is always the possibility of stopping out that rep paladin
they've done a handful of times. They have a mix of like, I mean, two Prez, two Dev evokers.
Actually, is it one Dev or one Og? I don't actually know at this point. I should know this, but you know.
I know at least Sang is playing Dev. I don't know. Is there a whole lot of flexibility here?
Dreadnust, do you really see much they could possibly change?
I don't think the portaling mechanic really changes too much about the specs we'd use.
There are certainly some specs where you can imagine that if they're in their CDs,
they're not going to want to portal. But you would just assign them to portal when
when they're not in their CDs, right?
Like you could think about, oh, a Frost death knight
in Breath of Syndragosa.
Obviously they're not gonna want to walk for five seconds
into a portal, come out the other side
and drop their breath, right?
But you can just make sure that, oh,
we swap our Frost DKs sometime when they're not
in their CDs, and I don't think that changes too much.
The one class inspect that I think has been looking
really nice on this fight, those evokers
look really good here.
Those time spirals seem extremely valuable
during the intermission for helping keep everybody away
from the middle of the boss room.
Unraveled deals extra damage to shields, which the boss has a shield on at that time
Even by doing blaze and this fight seems very good blaze is always OP on this tier. It looks like
That button's broken. Well, uh speaking of lizards, we do have other pets being sent by you guys as well
This one's not a lizard. There's a dog
Rita coming here by Lesta
Look at the shadow shadow looks kind of like a cone dog
I like this dog.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There you go.
It's a happy dog.
Yeah.
This is nice.
I like this dog.
I'm trying to see if they left us a note, so just keep talking.
You guys are terrible.
Get out.
The solution is if I just looked at Kalamazoo and we had to say nice piece of that.
Bearing at me.
Free to look.
How dare.
Very nice.
I like dogs.
Orders are always positive.
I'm like, one of the few remaining, you know.
Sort of has your eyes right on us.
Thank you.
Yeah, that's a compliment.
That might be the nicest thing
anybody's ever said to me.
Yeah, no one's ever told me that.
Nice.
Thank you.
Thank you for the pets' emissions.
Has made some things a bit for a-
I'm looking for the nose.
No, that'd be one.
Yeah.
Has been an admire my awesome dog.
That's it.
That's great.
Yeah, very nice.
I hope that's true.
Thank you.
If not, I'm very sorry for missing it.
Every dog is awesome.
Don't beat house.
That's very true.
Uh-huh.
Every dog is awesome.
Yeah, they are.
It's always true.
Why are you saying it like I disagree?
All right.
Well, makes the sticking out the anti-dog decision here, but Kalamazoo, you're very much on the
pro-dog side.
Dude, I love dogs.
Perfect.
Why would you have one?
You have three cats, right?
Well, because I have so many cats, it's actually, my ex brought home a cat when I said
I want a dog.
So that's how I got a cat.
So, then I just accumulated a lot of cats.
Yeah, I mean, when you get one, what's five?
Six, seven, ten?
You know, they get a whole pack.
They get a lot.
They get a lot.
That's my goal when I get older, having a wild pack of dogs that runs around and terrifies
the town.
Pretty cool, actually, yeah.
That is a yearling and I stay for that.
Are you going to be running with them?
Well, I mean, I depend on South Carolina with that point.
Forty is not too many years away, so, you know.
Right.
Right.
All right, well we're back in the mythic Antirek poles here, changing subjects for
this point.
So they've gotten very consistent this first phase, for the most part, they're having
a couple little hiccups on that four-cross jet.
Yeah, there's still some straight deaths here there.
One common cause of death is somebody not making it into their circle in time, and
then getting hit by the Venom Nova, and it's basically impossible to live with
that.
You're just taking so much damage, the next liquefy is almost always going
to kill you.
Yeah, those offset Venom Novas as well, like the broth pops basically, when you
We have that fourth set coming in, which is after this one here, can hit exceptionally
hard.
See, starting committing obsidian skills to this pop right here, one, two, and three flying
over all that easy, getting out, still casting with this OP hover mechanic, no problem, dodging
these squirrels that are coming in.
So this next open map here is going to be a mix of these webs, followed by these green
fell pools being dropped, and that fourth set of frocks coming in, which is the four
soap.
Spreading for these webs, we're fast here, needing some fast AWE, they explode
quickly, all is going well.
Draco does go down here. We've actually already committed a res so we're gonna have 19 players for this
And this is where it becomes a problem as time here as well
We're gonna have two less players soap these four for off
Yes, it's gonna be a lot of rain damage from now
We're gonna get a sick stack of the the debuff that hurts a lot
And we're gonna be light on damage for getting through the intermission to
This might be a little tough to get make it through regardless of going in here pulling the boss back
Behind those frost now moving through we're gonna see this star circle pop
We might go to make it through these pops well enough, but the rate damage we talked about is gonna be hitting exceptionally hard for this one pop
To really about now here. Oh well
It was a go again angle regardless. Yeah, that's all good
So just to explain every single time you send one of these froths
It is rate damage that does come out. So if you send them too close to each other
it's basically impossible for the healers to get the group back up which is why we're sending them out staggered and
And sometimes that there's only like a second between when they should be sent
And that is very hard to time and can cause a lot a lot of chaos during these tries here
But we did get through it quite a couple of times
So I'm very positive that we will get to keep going through it
Yeah, so still a very good bit of progress to be made today, but lots of time to do so
I don't think that intermission is going to be exceptionally challenging either once we get there with a clean
20-man rate alive. You're gonna see, I mean, once again, the main mechanic from the intermission
we see are those void portals, which needs somebody to swap basically once every 10 seconds.
I don't know what that picture is from. Basically, once every 10 seconds. Wonder what is on the
rest of that picture? Just a nice man smiling, I'm sure.
Well, speaking of pictures, I think I have something to show that's definitely better
than. Because here is a trozen, the infinite. So I'm not sure if that's the dog or the cat.
They both look very very royal like
Is that a Russian blue? Yeah, that looks like a Russian. Oh, I love those kinds of cats
like any kind of
It's easy to tell the cats name is
Troton the infinite. Oh, that's have these
Epic names, you know or cat is called Bastion. You know Vladimir the impaler dog. Just like that's coral
That's Bob. It's just a very basic name, right? It's perfect. It works
I like how the kid is just sitting between two of the chairs as well, which is perch.
Yeah.
Okay.
I found a note.
Oh, we said it wrong.
This is my service puppy in training, a nine month old blue Merle Australian Shepherd
with tail and tack.
His name is Shrazen, the infinite overlord of the Nahiluk dynasty chief arch, oh, they
should have gotten someone else to read this, archiobist of the solemn list galleries.
I'm so sorry for butchering this.
Don't make the German read those words, man.
What's the dog's name?
No, that was the dog.
That was the dog.
It's a cat's name.
We don't know what the kitty's name is.
Oh my god.
Maybe they didn't realize the kitty was in the picture because it's so camouflaged.
It is camouflaged.
It's hiding furniture.
That's true.
Yeah.
That's good.
Need more information.
Oh.
And the tour is P-I-G.
Piggy's balls.
Piggy's balls.
Piggy's balls.
This is from the strominator.
Yeah.
Do you actually have a pig, the strominator?
Honestly.
That is so cool.
I met the Shroominator at BlizzCon.
This all makes so much of that.
This is actually your animal.
This one does have your eyes, Kalamaz.
It does!
That's my hair risk.
It has her hair too!
Perfect.
It's a cute pig, though.
Thank you so much for sending your pets our way, and if you want to send yours
in, you can $30 at exclamationmark charity, or if you want to type it in tl.gg-rwf-donate,
$4.30 will show off your lovely little pat here on stream or write your transmogs.
So thank you so much for everybody that has been sending stuff in.
We also have a couple of donations without notes.
So thank you so much for everybody that's just supporting the cost.
It is a great cost.
And we have a lot of notes in here.
Colin is saying I'm actually around the corner from the Santa Monica Animal Shelter.
So I've been a donor in the past.
to help both support my local shelter and my favorite team from Aleopard Gekko and I for
the horde, Loctar Ogar.
And then we also have Mike Pat Kill saying yay adoptions exactly and if you want to
adopt that's teal.gg slash adopt there's lots of pets in the Septimonica animal shelter
looking for adoption we had Simba here he's been in the shelter for a long time
And looking for a loving home, as are all of these lovely little pets.
Trominators and chat saying, I have two dogs, a cat, a pig, a snake, and four kids.
Wow.
That's a lot.
That is a lot.
I like how the kids were kind of rubbing.
Yeah.
What you don't see is the kid was a follow up message is like,
Priorities.
That works.
All right.
This is going to be a fast go again.
angle here what's happening yeah all good but you know sorry back it in go
again
hmm that rhymes actually back it in go again does it back it in go again yeah
it does yes okay it rhymes if you again poetic license yeah I was gonna
say I'm gonna put that playing on it I guess it depends on your on your
accent yeah we got that Eminem flow we're ready to go we're ready to go
you see look at me I'm oh my god yeah yeah spit your bars calamansi you didn't realize it
I do what I can, I do what I can, you know.
What was our pull count predictions for this boss?
Because I feel like we've all been blindsided by the Silicon Court.
I never really looked at what people predicted for the Queen Ancerac.
I think I had like two, yeah, well I guess 269?
Yeah, you're nice.
No, that's the Silicon Court.
Yeah, that's the Silicon Court.
I think I had like two Tannimus fight, I believe, give or take.
We'll see if we can make it out of there next time.
There's a smaller pole count than Silicon Court, I think, which I suspect is going to end up being wrong.
This does seem pretty nasty, although we have already made a decent jungle prog, right?
P1, the whole blueprint to P1 is there.
First intermission, the only intermission as far as we know.
The whole blueprint is there.
Phase 2, we haven't gotten to frequently enough with everybody alive,
but I suspect that Phase 2 is going to crumble once they get there with 20 players alive consistently.
It doesn't just seem that hard. It seems like heroic, but with portals.
Yeah, he's basically assigned who goes into the portal and faces it.
Yeah, that being said, we don't know what the middle platform and stuff look like.
Those could be really nasty on this difficulty.
Maybe there's a fourth platform who knows at this point.
Maybe.
Yeah, but it makes it hard to predict what the fight's going to look like.
I think, looking at what we've seen, I would still predict
they're like a late tomorrow or a Friday angle for this boss dying more than more likely.
But that phase three, while it's not as challenging as phase one, I think at heroic,
It's still a lot going on in that phase, and they've also done a good job of making these phases different cadence-wise.
I wouldn't be surprised if Phase 3 just slams too.
And also, with a fight being 9.5 minutes long, the further you get, despite the longer those pulls go, the longer progression takes you.
So, I think like 200-ish pulls is probably still on track, give or take, but we'll probably know a lot more tonight after dinner.
Hopefully, sometime in this shift, we'll see through a clean Phase 2.
I think one of the most important variables for this boss's length of progression is going to be how much they're able to make Phase 1 consistent.
Right.
Because if Phase 1 is consistent, I think that we can make some very rapid progress on the later parts of the fight.
If Phase 1 is inconsistent, we're going to be seeing these later parts of the fight every few pulls.
We're going to be seeing them with people dead.
We're going to be seeing them without battle reses.
We're going to be seeing them with cooldowns being scuffed and things.
And that is going to make it much harder, even if P2 isn't necessarily that hard of a phase.
If we're never reaching it with 20 players alive in all of our CDs, like they're supposed to be,
I think it's going to be very hard to make quick progress, and we're going to be entering that 2-300 pull range.
Right. I'm thinking 2-10.
I don't know what I said a few days ago, but I'm thinking 2-10 at this point, roughly.
I think 2-100 is kind of a good ballpark for this boss.
Obviously, I agree with we're going to need a stable P1, because if we don't get that, it'll be so easy to rack up those pull counts,
especially when, like I said earlier, we are progging on Phase 3, but here comes that quadruple froth for the guilt now in Phase 1.
That is a pain point that we've been seeing all throughout yesterday and also this morning.
There's just so much rate damage. They need to live it. They need to stagger it out beautifully.
And looks like this worked out for them in this particular try everybody alive as we are going into that intermission
Very bad. It's going to be happening in place. Oh my gosh that very damage we made it through. Yeah
So we see the less being committed here on all 20 players this shield that bar top epsis screen will indeed show their meaning
I'm that shield it is melting looking to drop from 525 10
We're also sub 500 now. We're gonna need to beat this third grip in this phase
But with everybody alive and less being committed here the shield so yeah
Yeah, it's gone. 40% already is it?
It's melting.
Here comes the second grip, which this one,
there's no way they're going to skip this.
But the third grip is not even going to be close here,
as long as they can avoid too many people getting grip.
Oh, trying to get Malarkas both going down.
That is not good.
But it's OK.
We'll still be able to make some prog into the intermission
here, into the second phase, rather.
We can also go down here.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
We have a little squeeze window here, right?
Right after that shield is over, before she goes immune,
you can get out like one more percent of her health,
where that bloodlust is still running.
Okay, so here are those portals,
they're about to explode now.
Yep, Nick comes through the front of the road.
Nice, both portals have been used.
Oh, and Nick goes down to the side here.
There's dying there.
Leading out a little bit of fortune.
We do see Nick coming through, and that looks to be...
Okay.
We did make it through though.
Yep, now we're going up to the side here,
and on the side, there are also these portals
that we'll need to get used.
That timer has started right away, it looks like,
on those, so four seconds before these portals
destabilize and wipe them,
They're going to need to send players through, and then it gives you this gloom touch, which needs to be dispelled to leave behind a fun puddle.
A fun puddle? Is that what we're calling it?
There it is. I don't know how fun it is. It definitely does a lot of damage, and it's permanent, so it'll stay there if we take too long on one of these platforms.
We're going to be running out of space, but as you can see, they are making ample progress. Through that phase, you keep trying to equine out.
Yeah, trying to get the 1v1 doesn't quite win that time.
That was good though, a very solid like final froth push in the intermission with all 20 alive.
That shield just melted as well.
I don't think you end up moving less off that shield just yet.
You want to see more progression past there?
Yeah, but they definitely can do it without last.
Yeah, and with DPS on that shield there,
it also carries over into those two adds to killing as well, heading into those platforms, right?
So as long as we can keep all 20 alive through the intermission,
with there being very little room to move around once those two groups come out,
We should I mean I think once that happens you're seeing a super long face too
All right, so let's take another look at that pull and we can talk again about the
new hidden mythic mechanic that's not in the dungeon journal in this second phase
This is this happens often actually is that they they don't tell you about the mythic mechanics
So it's these portals that you can see there will be one on each side and it'll start this cast
To explode you can see those two bars
just up in the middle left of daisers screen here once that cast finishes if
somebody hasn't gone through the portal it will explode and wipe them now a lot
of damage is coming out here and causing people to die that's just normal
damage I think yeah I believe so the way the way it works is that you send
somebody through the portal on each side they get the gloom touch debuff as
well that's a dot that needs to be dispelled in my instance fell they
leave behind a puddle yeah it might not seem as bad in that first part of
But there when you have multiple debuffs coming through on these smaller platforms here with those grips coming in and those lines dodge
It can be pretty hectic pretty quickly
And then you get to these side platforms again
You now have a portal on mythic that needs to be activated by one player on each side swapping them to the other side
Yep, same here at these labs coming out. It's like the spell also does some great damage potentially there
It looks under presenture
On the lower difficulties, there is a dispel that does do some great damage on the second platform that maybe this replaces that.
There's webs here as well from these grips. I didn't notice that. They're not there in Hero Gauntlet, so there's also, there's literally webs on the Phase 2 platform from the grip.
It's like every time you get gripped in, you're gonna leave behind webs, just like in the intermission.
That's crazy. There's webs with the dodge line, with the extra dispels coming out from these portals every 10 seconds. This is gonna be...
You're probably gonna want to be stacking mostly over on the right-hand side from our current perspective for the first grip.
So you'd be moving your way to the left across this platform.
Right where that bridge extends.
I suspect there's going to be some element of just dodge and figure it out.
You can only click the bridge once the ads are down, right?
Yes, yes.
So there's no way you could kind of like open that up and then use the pathway to maybe...
I don't think so, no.
It is interesting, on the lower difficulties you click those two pylons and the bridge
gets created and as soon as you click the second pylon, the boss will cancel
any active grip attempt that it's making at your side.
I suspect it will work that way on Mythic as well.
So we may see a few of them where there's like one second
before they would have gotten gripped off
and then they click the pylons, enable the bridge,
cancel that grip, and it's all safe.
Yeah, interesting.
I was expecting the grip to be a little bit stronger
on Mythic actually compared to Heroic and such,
but I guess we're not gonna have some secret split raid
Razorgath gateway strategy implemented here at this point,
but regardless of those web dropping in the intermission
alongside the debuffs and coordinating the portal swaps.
Like you mentioned, you have essentially up to 10 portal swaps total for that entire phase if you want to swap the tanks.
Which probably happens at some point when you're finishing off the adds in one platform ahead into the next.
But that gives you about, like Grotto has mentioned, probably about 2-2.5 minutes max for the intermission
if you find ways to milk out that portal being interrupted late, transitioning at certain points.
But you only have 10 swaps.
Past then, you can't do it again, the portal will finish its cast, it's going to wipe the raid.
So it's a bit of a, almost like a DPS check in that phase as well.
And keep in mind, phase one also is not duration based.
It's per, no, it is duration based.
It's not based off boss percent.
So the lower you get the boss,
the lower it's gonna be in the final phase.
So we don't know what that number really looks like right now,
but I'm sure it's in the back of the analyst mind saying,
okay, well we pulled damage off the boss
in phase one for the shield.
Now can we move anything back to boss damage in phase one
once we get more consistent?
At this point, still keep breaking
that shield as top priority.
I agree, I think it's gonna be a lust in phase one once that shield is stable, and then once we see phase 3,
if the Coolies line up, then that's probably where that Bloodlust is gonna go like you were saying earlier, Kalamazie?
Yeah, probably, I mean, it's probably the best no problem.
That's like a whole way away for now.
We have to get through that ad phase first.
I feel like we'll see through the ad phase at some point tonight.
As far as like lusting on pull versus three,
It's close. I mean, I think you would like to just hold for phase three at that point
because in phase one you are dodging the random like what the
Acidic pools are placed in the ground web dealing with Roth effects
There's a decent bit of downtime when you come out of that in mission into phase three at least on heroic
But the boss is just sitting as a puppet or a bit bigger than a dummy in the middle of the room
Just RPA you can get a lot of burning image in there
It'll also carry over into the tank adds into the first web set, but phase one's a good option as well
So just to kind of explain what's waiting for us that we haven't seen yet
You've already mentioned the portals in that ad phase in that last phase
You get the same portals you get on heroic and I believe also normal
But there's ads hanging from the ceiling like there's no rowing these ones
They die drop off an item that you can only hold for 15 seconds
and then you get a debuff and you also drop the item on the floor and
and you will need to pick up that item and carry it through the portal to avoid the rings.
If any of these items stay on the floor when the ring comes,
it actually destabilizes the ring and messes everything up.
So you're going to be needing players each to carry one of these items through the rings
in like a staggered-out way for every single time we have those rings.
And as far as I know, the items don't despawn.
So, that is going to be a whole other level of difficulty that's waiting for us lurking
around the corner and will definitely be there for a while.
I don't think there's just to kind of circumvent what I've been seeing in chat.
There is, I think, no world where this boss goes down tonight.
That's some Hopium that I'm seeing there, but we are going to be, I think, seeing
P3 at least.
Yeah, I think so.
I think it's unlikely it will die today as well.
So, you gotta remember, this boss is going to be subjected to 10 hours of liquid progressing it.
Oh, true.
You can have a pretty hard boss fight die under those circumstances, especially now that they're here with week 2 gear.
These DPS checks don't seem as tight as if they'd been trying to make them happen at 6.22 last week.
Now that they're up at, what, I'm a little worried now, 6.26 something in that rate.
6.25.2, I believe, was a Silicon Court kill, so probably a 6.25.5 could retake the last day of this room.
25.2 and Echo now that they also pulled Queen Ancerac is sitting on 624.8. Interesting so
Liquid actually a slight eye level advantage now on Queen Ancerac although I wouldn't be surprised
if over the next few in the next day or two those some crafts coming out you know they just
finished your reclares yeah we may also swap in and out some characters and that may change
the average eye level yeah very much so let's take a look at our poll predictions because
because we have them up here.
So I said 180.
Draton said 255, and you fell a little bit high.
Maybe.
Maybe you're right.
325.
Pointed at me.
I think Draton is probably the closest here at 285.
I think 180 is a bit too low.
I was kind of operating on, oh, it's the first rate,
the first rate of the expansion.
Usually, those are kind of easy.
Usually, usually.
Well, I think you guys are much closer than I am.
I would say 2-10 if I had the option to guess again right now, probably, give or take.
I don't know, I feel like a huge question mark is that last phase.
I think that the overlaps on that phase, even at the end of it on Heroic, are super brutal.
We don't usually see that on Heroic kills anymore because you just have enough gear
to skip the later overlaps in that phase, but they're actually really nasty and that's
just the Heroic version of that fight.
I think that that phase is going to be super difficult on Mythic and that can
really inflate the bull count here.
So you're saying it dies Sunday?
I wouldn't be surprised if we got to re-book some flights, that's all I'm saying here.
I am expecting that we get to re-book some flights, personally, but...
I think Friday, Friday evening, we could probably die.
I think it could, yeah, I mean, I think it could die tomorrow.
Okay.
It's definitely possible, but I wouldn't be counting on it for sure.
Yeah.
These are told me with his unbiased prediction before today, walking down here that it dies at a weekend.
At the weekend?
At the weekend, it kills me Friday night.
My mom's birthday is coming up soon.
Better call her and see you and she'll be there.
Well she knows she'll be watching.
My mom actually messaged me yesterday and she was like,
oh, how's it going, you know, the guild,
they're doing well, liquid is like killing it.
And I'm like, yeah, they're doing great.
And she's like, you look so relaxed, natural,
but professional.
And I was like, okay, mom.
What is your birthday?
On the 29th.
It's exactly one week before mine, yeah.
Okay, happy birthday.
I'll probably, don't say that,
That's bad luck in Germany.
But, uh-
Oh, we're not in Germany, California.
Well, we're Germans, though.
You are.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, my mom and I.
Okay, yeah.
All right.
So it's bad luck to wish somebody
happy birthday before their birthday?
Yeah, it is.
I see.
I don't know the entire lore,
but I looked it up once,
and it's like,
basically, you're inviting like,
bad ghosts to know that your birthday's coming up,
and so they can then like ruin your birthday,
or something, I don't know.
There are no ghosts in Florida,
just alligators so you're fine you're good we're chilling okay I'm just saying happy
birthday I think Friday I'm calling Friday I'm more in the world I hope Friday to
yeah I mean the island of disparity is interesting as well because I think I
believe liquid might have done a little bit more be a we farming in that one
surprise me yeah yeah they were also a little bit lucky on those be a we
We have one run or two drop that was pretty good. I've done a few of those runs and the average is zero
One is a good outcome two is incredible. I've never seen that
There's a luck never hurt. I mean they had to drop I think like in quick succession. Yeah, they did. Yeah
That's basically half a boss right. Oh like a large break timer has entered the screen here. Oh
25 minutes my suspicion is that's a lunch timer. Oh, it might be very likely
Well, interesting. Also, we're top of the hour, so just letting you know, then now that
we're getting closer to potentially an end boss kill, you might want to use those prime
subs if you have them ready or just normal subs. You do not want to be in the situation
where a boss goes very low and you're getting edge. I am assuring you that much and we
need to finance this somehow. So, huge shout out to everybody that has been supporting
And we are also, I believe, going on lunch break.
I haven't heard the cue just yet, but I can see the Raiders all coming in.
And what is for lunch?
Do you know?
Anybody knows?
The ink gets braised beef with mashed potatoes.
Oh, I think it's the Dragon Slayer special, is it?
It's dinner, I think, today.
Oh, is it dinner?
Oh, I might have mixed it up.
The Raiders are having a steak and fajita bar, chips and salsa,
rice and beans for lunch.
Yeah, there you go.
Thank you, Chad.
And thank you, moderators, who set up that command.
We're going to be heading into that lunch break. Huge shout out to all of our sponsors once again.
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I celebrated by getting a new Honda Civic Hybrid.
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Why didn't I think of this?
How do you really tell a bare board?
My name's Atlas.
I play at Night Fogger Kicked Guild.
Some of the features of the Alienware ProLine mouse that I've really enjoyed.
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What is this? Where's my secret lab?
This is your chair.
That's not my chair. It's in my contract, man.
I only sit in secret lab chairs.
Look, I'm gonna have permanent back damage because of this.
What's going on with him?
He ever got his secret lab.
Look at that, look at that, you look at that.
Max is calling for diva.
I use secret labs.
This is some dog sh-t.
Ever since Max ran into his contract, he's been, like, weirdly obsessed with secret lab chairs.
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
He does everything in them.
Like, everything.
Like, I get it.
They're great chairs.
But it's just, like, a bit much.
I guess he had it put in his contract to always be sitting in a secret lab chair.
I mean, who does that? When did that happen?
Good secret lab.
Look, it's not about the design or the comfort. It's the personalized ergonomics.
Right? Why else would it be in my contract? I want it wherever I'm at.
I feel like people here just don't get it, you know?
For sure.
Like, it's like when you're used to sushi and then you go back to cantuna.
You just don't want that, right? No one wants that.
That's crazy.
I feel like we should be focusing more on prepping for the actual race than, like, what chairs we sit in.
I mean, like, how comfortable can they really be?
I kind of get it.
Let's move my two to a three and my five to a seven.
I'm going to take a quick dinner around then.
Actually, you know what? Instead of the three, maybe move that to a one.
That way I don't have to come to the office until way later, hopefully.
Hey.
Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
Look, it is what it is.
I'm a nice guy, but Secret Lab, that's the only chair this butt sits in.
There's either a Secret Lab there, or I'm not going.
Alright, that's a wrap everybody. Thank you, have a good night.
There's my Secret Lab.
You know, I was just finishing out my Instagram story there, but production is sending us
back into those polls. Raiders are getting ready as well.
And we're back here with some action.
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That was good. That was a good run. I've been getting better at that.
That's good.
Do you guys get a chance to talk to the raiders during that lunch break?
A little bit, yeah. Talk to Driny a little bit about the Phase 2 strategy that they're going with,
and the healing requirements with those dispells, whether or not there is.
It turns out there is a little hit of raid damage when you do dispel the circle that
you get after going through the portals, so that's something that they're figuring out.
But it doesn't seem too difficult numbers wide.
The numbers situation seems reasonable.
It's not one of those phases.
Sometimes you get to a phase like Razagath intermissions, and you're like, okay,
we don't know how to make the numbers work here, we're going to have to go
back to the drawing board.
you get to a phase like that and the answer is just oh the numbers are twice what they
should be. Other times you get to these phases and it's like okay this seems really hard
and then you end up figuring it out. This one I think they've got the numbers ready
for it. Speaking of numbers let's take a look at our coinbase leaderboard here, Liquid
Echo and Method after that insane run from Method last night sitting at the 7 out
of 8th. I don't know if their Reclear has already commenced maybe Chat can let
Let me know it is getting late in Germany, but here's our Honda Boss Progress at, well,
reaching those 63%.
But of course we know percentages on this Boss Kalamazoo a little bit fake.
A little fake, yeah.
So you have a, the Boss is duration based.
It's not health threshold based when you push the intermission, right?
So at, in this, that pole came, I think about two and a half hours ago, well before
they hit the intermission, like breaking that shield, right?
They likely pulled some CDs off the Boss to put it on the shield.
Now at a certain point when you have enough DPS on the shield, maybe allocate some more
back to the boss so you can find a lower threshold pushing, but there's no damage threshold
that you're hitting to push the boss.
There's a very good chance that when this boss dies, they're probably going to need
to push out a P1 even lower than 64%.
That seems likely to me that we're going to start seeing them trying to milk that
more and more and get more and more damage there.
But right now, that's not important.
Right now, whether we push out of the first intermission at 70% on the boss or
percent is the same because all we need to do is proc P2.
So they're going to be using as many resources as they can, either in the intermission or
the start of P2 to help make that happen.
And that 63% best pull is probably going to stay there until we get to P3.
Once we start getting that P3, once we get our first P3 push, if it's like heroic,
there's going to be 20 seconds of just hitting the boss at the start of that phase and
the boss is going to lose a lot of health during that time.
So do you think there's a world where we say, oh, the shield is actually fine.
Let's just put that lust back on P1.
I don't think so yet.
I don't think you lust P1 yet.
I think what you might want to do is take the lust off the intermission and start using
it whenever stuff gets bad in P2.
And you're just using it as a progression tool, which is like, okay, we have 17 people alive,
a couple of people have died.
Let's try and see further into this using Bloodlust to make up for the fact that a
couple of people are dead on this ball.
Yeah, good idea, I think.
You won't see it on the shield in a Frog Kill.
You either see it in phase three when they push in that big boss burn, or it could
be a phase 1 thing if you're saying. I think there's a bit less movement in phase 3 when
the boss is just stationary. It's probably just better burn.
Phase 1 is really hard.
Yeah.
But it's worth it.
Yeah.
Yeah, but they're making it through phase 1 without a burn.
Either way, you're probably not going to be using a bloodlust at a time when it's
going to help the healers too much. You're mostly going to be using it for damage.
It's bymasters as well.
Yeah. So P3 has the benefit of this bymasters. The problem is that you probably won't
have all of your CDs ready for unless at the start of P3.
Versus pull.
You always have all your CDs so you know historically even with the spy masters
We saw I'm like hi Bezza, you know that that last ball on it ends up just being better usually for damage
We have good news because we are going to be checking in with our charity partners Santa Monica animal shelter
You guys have been doing great at getting us closer to those stretch goals
And I know Teddles is going to be happy to see that we are less than
$1,400 away from getting a date with the real Void Mummy herself, Zalatath.
I don't know, really, I have so many questions about this and I think it's better if I don't
know.
It's crazy as well because all of these different charity goals, right, was like, oh, who wants
to eat bugs, right?
And nobody jumps to volunteer.
Still is strange.
Really?
Yeah.
The date with Zalatath pops up and all of a sudden, Tettles is just in the building,
he's ready, he's sitting in the wings waiting for us to get that 20,000 point offering
to swap in for a shift.
What a surprise.
It is crazy how that works out.
I believe his own words were he would be begging on his knees to do that.
I believe it's pretty hard luck and who's going to be able to finish that charity goal
once we get there.
But if you want to help us get there, you can donate.
Of course, any amount helps, but if you want to get a little something for it, $30
will show your pet on stream or will rate your transmogs here on the broadcast.
Just a little update for you guys, the guilt is currently not yet pulling,
we're still setting up after that lunch break, I saw some of them just standing there,
signing some of the jerseys that we're giving away, so they're preparing all of that.
Yeah, I would expect to see phase three within the next couple of hours.
I don't think phase two is that difficult.
Yeah, I mean we haven't seen the middle of P2 yet on Heroic.
One of the harder parts of P2 is the second platform where you're getting those dispells.
On Mythic, you already have dispells being taxed by the dispelling of the portal debuff
as well, so if those are simultaneously needing to get done, that might actually be kind
of tricky to coordinate and might be an awful lot of raid damage that they're having
to deal with there.
So I wouldn't write up P2 as being easy just yet.
We also don't know what the DPS check P2 has a couple of different DPS checks.
You have the DPS check of getting to that second platform and killing the ad before it
kills you.
You have the DPS check after that of getting to the end and interrupting Queen Ancerite
before she kills you.
And you now on Mythic have the DPS check of, you know, using the portals before they
kill you and you can only do that 10 times before, I mean, if you wanted to do it
in the 11th, I think you'd have to sacrifice play because they're vulnerable to damage
from those portals after they go through.
I don't think, I really hope I'm not wrong with this, but I don't think there's going
to be an 11th portal slot required.
That would really be not very fun.
I wouldn't be surprised if they end up sacrificing players to the portals on some scuffed first
few pulls of making it to P3.
Just to see it be longer.
I doubt it'll be part of the long-term kill of this boss.
But yeah, I think P2, the numbers on it don't look too nasty.
It seems like you do need all 20 players alive to realistically get through it, which is something
that has really been quite tough to get through it.
Even P1, we are consistently seeing deaths still in P1, so cleaning that up is still a
priority.
We're not at this point yet where it's like, okay, P1 is locked down.
There are still our optimizations to make in that phase, and it's probably one of
the main phases they're still thinking about.
But yeah, of course it's exciting to be thinking about P2 now that we've started
to see it.
I think we've done this off in our hands.
I think we're getting into the fight and be like, oh, we got to find 30% more damage
in the fight.
63% pushing out of B1. I bet we are going to be looking at this in the future, and it's like, oh, 58% is the number that boss needs to be at.
Or even lower, yeah.
That could be.
Sometimes, though.
P1 is pretty hard on this boss, which notably is rather rare for bosses. Usually P1s are kind of lame.
This one has it in it. It's very, very hard. That's a lot you need to do there.
And I feel like with P1 being this hard, you also need to at least equally hard P3
because it'll just feel bad if you don't.
So I have high expectations for that last phase being a breaker.
I don't know how you feel.
I've heard some people say it might be easier than P1.
So it is on the lower difficulties for the first couple of minutes of P3, right?
Like it's kind of chill at the start and then you can kill the boss
before you get the nastiest overlaps.
I don't know, there's a lot of potential in those B3 mechanics, and on Heroic they kind of don't start ramping up for a while.
On Mythic, I wouldn't be surprised if you get into B3 and it's like, the overlaps are nasty from the start, and then they get nastier over the next few minutes.
I'm reminded somewhat of Sarkarath a little bit in this difficulty curve, where it's like, really, really hard B1.
And then B2 is maybe a little bit chiller, little bit adds, that kind of stuff.
And then B3 again is hard, and that's, you know, where the bulk of progression needs to happen.
But you're because you're right P ones are rarely as difficult as we're seeing on Queen answer
REC
Usually the P one part of the fight is like, okay
We figure this out and then we're pretty consistently getting through it
You think of fire act even rass geth rass geth had a hard P one, but once you were progging the later phases P one became pretty consistent and
Relatively I don't want to say easy especially with the before the winds nerf on that fight that were all as people
That were in the trenches and P one. Yeah, but yeah
It's usually not as tough as as we see on a fight like this like the P1 here is
Incredibly intense with this actually when you get to that four froth overlap. That is really nasty
Yeah, they change the cadence of the phase as well. Yeah, in phase one
I wouldn't be surprised at all a phase three as a cadence. I would be shocked if it was a heroic
Yeah, I mean, I think it's gonna be much more fast-based. I think just based on how P3 works
It cannot be the same because on heroic you get the rings and then the eds. Yeah, and
And you want to carry the items that the ad drops when they're killed through the rings.
So I would assume it's at rings, at rings, at rings rather than the inverse, which is
how it is on a heroic right now.
Yeah.
So that is at least a change that I'm expecting, and it doesn't really make sense to add a
whole item there that you need to carry through a portal through a ring, only for
that to occur in the opposite order.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it works that way on heroic, right?
You do have to carry them through and it just but her it sort of gives you in a ring without that first
Yes, yeah, and I don't think that they're gonna offer the same level of friendliness
I think right. I think that thing is gonna be quite nasty in that last phase
I think you're gonna be getting those those shackles
I suspect there's going to be more that we don't know about that phase as well that when we get there on mythic
It's gonna have and it's gonna be nasty. They're gonna portals there too honestly
Yeah, I'm gonna be surprised if instead of three ads popping up out of the middle
It's all six for instance
Yeah, right at the start. That would that one surprised me or it could ramp up like the frost do it could yeah
Although if there's if so you suspect that they're permanent right you have to keep moving
I think the items will be permanent
So I think it'll be three items on the first one
Yeah, and then once the next ad spawn you'll have to carry six items
And if they would ramp up that would be a very short phase to deal with well you could do
You couldn't actually do three six nine without it being a wipe on the nine
because the three would have had to be carried twice already so you'd be out of
debuff so if that works then that would be like the hardened rage of the fight
unless you could blink the the rift or something with them blink to double but
it could be like three four five at okay sure yeah at what point I think that
would still work so that would be three yeah seven seven twelve then yeah this
sort of over at that point. Well, okay, I'm 12 foot work. They have 18, I guess. No, because
you'd have to stop the debate. So, so, but it could be three, four, four, three, four,
four, two, three, four, something could work. Yeah, so it could ramp in a way. We're highly
theorizing. Yeah. In case you're wondering, it's like the hangover. Yeah. So at the
end on that donut shaped phase you get ads that are coming from the ceiling that
you have to kill these ads yeah very good these ads drop an item that a player
will have to carry through the portal you can only carry it for 15 seconds then
you automatically drop it back on the floor and you get a debuff that you can't
carry it again I don't know if it runs out at any given point but I think
it's probably a lengthy debuff that's kind of what we're operating on it's a
whole lot of theorizing that's going on right now which is why we're
ramping up numbers, because we're assuming that the people who carry the first add-wave
add items cannot do the second wave, but maybe they can do the third one.
And what makes you think that the, so on heroic, that exists as well, right?
And then you take it through the portal and it goes away.
What makes you think that on Mythic it doesn't go away and you'd have to keep dealing
with it?
Oh, I just think it's very hard.
Okay, this is just a guess that you have.
What if the mechanic worked this way?
This would make it harder?
Okay, so we're not actually basing this off of anything from The Dunder Journal
or anything like that.
We're just a pure guess on that. I agree that would make it a pretty nasty
mechanic. I wouldn't be surprised if the mythic change in p3 is instead something that's just not
a new twist on a mechanic at all, but something entirely new, like the way those portals in p2 were.
You saw them and you're like, oh, that's that. I've never seen that before.
I've had enough holandrous firehack bombs for a little while. I think we can leave that in
her like let him despawn it's fine. I don't even my heart can't take another whole fight of that
and phase 3 juggling. Yeah, permanent bombs that needs to be taken through all the rifts.
I don't know. I mean it would be pretty nasty. It would be a lot of extra pressure. Yeah,
I don't know. At the same time, I mean like it looks to be a good fight. Phase 3 is my
favorite part of the fight, even though phase 1 is more difficult I feel like. I'm more
excited to see phase 3, I should say. It might be a little biased because of how it's
good for warlock stuff, but I mean you know. Phase 3 is really fun. Yeah, doing it on that
first week and actually getting to the, it's not the end of the phase, but there is a part on Heroic
at around the 9 minute marker where you've got Shackles, Ads, ANOVA coming in, and then you've
also got webblades that you're dodging all within the span of about 10 seconds. That is a really nasty
overlap. Almost everybody who's killed the boss does it by killing it before you get to that
overlap, but actually dealing with that overlap even on Heroic felt very mythic to get through
And we just end up it's kind of the thing over the finish line of one person
How many abilities do you want to deal with and those are going? Yes? Yeah, so so I wouldn't be surprised if it starts like that
Unmethic in that phase and then gets worse from there
We'll see though we need to get there first and before we get there
P2 is still the progression point that we are working on and before we get there
Clean P1 and clean first intermission our requirements as well
Yeah, they've gotten pretty good at phase one for the most part here.
So the big difference between Mythic and Heroic, they've talked about, they've changed the
cadence of this fight.
You have those early web wraps coming out, which you want that stacked a weekly for.
And also, you have these two Froth pools in the back, essentially, these soaks here.
They're going to pop Star into Circle here to jump through basically that bosses Nova
puts out.
Now, every single Froth set, well I guess from two there, the next set is three,
And the final set is 4, it increases by 1 basically every set.
So you have to find a way to evenly distribute the raid in those soaks, not gain extra debuffs.
If one person dies, the raid takes an extra stack, it's a lot more damage.
We're also balancing these webs here with a decent bit of stack at every cleave and
keeping the actual drops from the webs or the pools exceptionally tight here.
You'll see the boss even being pulled back into the webs in green on the ground
a bit so often to just get as much space as humanly possible because you want
to have at least half this platform available for the intermission when
you're pulled in by the boss's web ability because that also puts labs on the
ground. Here we see those three froffs coming out being stacked here one melee
one sort of mid and one ranged maximum damage from the boss for cleave aspects
as well as range damage being popped star circle into a bleed diamond here one two
and three jumping over this the whole raid does indeed live through this
there will be a dot applied to the raid in a moment here we'll see a lot
of raid damage coming in with everybody being alive it shouldn't be
that too much. I actually do lose Sang here, unfortunately. If a res for him here comes a raid
damage though, we can get Sang up here and this is going to be that last choke point, the fight
coming up, which is going to be that 4-froth overlap after this next web set. Sang takes the
res. There's that waiting for the Rude's making sure that he's not going to have to deal with yet
another mechanic while they're currently not fighting for every percent on that boss yet,
possibly. And we are going to be getting that next set of froths like you're seeing
Kalamazie coming up very soon. Pre-Sphet is already shown here four at a time and we'll go
in a row. It's Star then Circle, then Green, then Purple, then Green, Green is the last one.
Star is usually being sent right at the start like basically instantly you'll see it come out
and then it's within a second they're sending the other ones to try and jump over that Nova.
Make sure that there is no overlaps.
Some of these waves here are coming for the group of casters.
We did lose Goop.
Oh, that damage.
Oh my gosh, yeah.
The rest of them live, still.
Yeah, so losing Goop there means those stacks,
those soaks and those four froths aren't evens.
The rates taking interest stacked there.
So even more rate damage.
Lose impact here.
But we have indeed made the intermission,
which you can see everyone being webbed to the boss.
Lust is being committed here as well.
That blue bar on the standing screen
is the remaining health on that shield on Antrack.
About 10% of the boss' health.
We're gonna try and beat the third grip. This is number two coming in. I believe right about here
We should beat the third pretty easily that shield approaching sub 10% and we'll see another good in a mission for drows
Yeah, you can see a lot of web on the platform now
Not a lot of space left the way it works is in this phase when you do get gripped
You leave behind webs on mythic as well. We are gonna see some more deaths coming out as just the entire platform has been
polluted by those webs
Only have a few people live here
I don't think we're going to be able to see anything new in P2 with this.
Well, we'll see it again for anybody that might have missed it,
which I think is maybe also valuable.
You're seeing the explosion there, Dratnos.
Yeah, one thing it looks like they changed here,
unless this was just an adaptation to the White.
It looks like they're sending tanks as the first portal swap,
which makes a lot of sense.
If you send your tanks in there,
there's actually not a lot of threat that needs to be juggled.
You can just both go through and taunt the one caster
that is on the other side,
and that way you can get your tank swap.
That was something we were talking about is like, oh, how are you going to find a time to swap your tanks?
It looks like that very first swap is actually probably the lowest overhead one that you could maybe get the tanks through.
Yeah, it makes sense. On those platforms, you have a mix of AWE adds to tanking.
It's much harder to find the swap tanks there compared to that first swap, which swap taunt and you're good to go, right?
So good seeing that there. We believe a total of 10 swaps, give or take, can be made across the raid.
So tanks with number one means there's nine swaps left for the remainder of that phase.
those. We assume three platforms in the intermission, but it could be more. We're assuming three
similar to Heroic. But yeah, I mean, that's like basically their current progression point.
Getting to that part of the fight, we've seen them hit that first platform a little bit
with those two adge and the burn down. We've also noticed that on the platforms as well,
like the intermission, you're pulled by the boss, which also leaves web pools, fragments
in the ground. So it's a lot of area of denial in this intermission.
Yes, it feels a little bit nicer because you only have the ten people up on each side,
but you only have a very small platform up there.
If it gets full of webs too much, that will not be good, so...
And there's only a few spots in the platform you can stand where if you get gripped,
you're not going to get gripped off the platform.
Yes.
I don't want to fill those all up with webs,
but you need to be standing there when the grip comes out, so...
The classes that can handle the knock easily are at a premium here.
That's part of the reason if you look at this comp, right?
We've got two death knights.
They just press death advance and sand anywhere.
They can put those webs in a really nice place.
We've got evokers.
They can tap spacebar, turn on glide, not get gripped off.
Same with Demon Hunter.
Demon Hunter has fellow rush and stuff as well.
And then you have a couple of classes
that are a little bit more sketched,
but have ways of doing it, right?
You have transcendence from your monk.
You have leap and charge from your warriors.
Circle from warlock, same thing.
From your mage.
Yeah, circle is actually a really good one.
That from the warlock is a really good one.
And then you have some very tentative options like wild charge or skull bash from a from a guardian druid
You have bubbling or bopping from your paladins, which you probably don't want to use on that
You have a I guess shaman has a charge they can talent into enhancement can so they all have options, but
There are some that are kind of a and s tier movement removals that can be used every time
And then there's some where it's a little bit more like if we're relying on this
This person is going to get gripped off one out of every ten bowls.
You're a speaker of many languages.
A chat is being a bit unruly, and I feel like we should let them hear a message.
And I'll say it to you in German, and you say it to them in German.
How does that sound? I'll teach you a bit of German there.
Okay.
So it's four words, and it's
Mach Fenster auf Kipp.
Can you say that?
Mach Fenster auf Kipp.
Auf Kipp.
Auf Kipp.
Yeah, very good.
So there you heard it first chat
What did he just say? Is that bad? What did he?
He told him to crack open a window
Chat maybe need some front-fair
That doesn't be a monster but sure one the same
There we go
Alright
A little feisty, we're not even phase 3 yet
This point goodness, alright
How many languages do you speak?
All of them? One in a bit
Oh, okay
He's pretty good with that
I could do French
The window that's open the window. Yeah, I got it. Do you actually speak multiple languages? Yeah, he does
Yeah, I hit me something else. What do we got?
Yeah, okay. All right. Well, yeah, he just speaks they choose that this week. It's fine. Keep your secret right now. It's okay
There we go, you know in Germany or windows like
What is it like they slant? Yeah, you guys have weird. That's what kept means. I see you're too extra for sure
So American windows as far as I know they like slide up and down so you get like a hole that's like square-shaped
Yeah, yeah in Germany the window you can like turn the angle on the on the handle and
Only the top part of it will come loose. So it's like building the same way. It's very cool. I like that
Yeah, it's cool. Yeah, European way windows. Yeah, there's no vent on the like no net in the window though
Yeah, Lord all kinds of bugs and through like snakes and gators. You can get you can get like a net specifically
That sounds suboptimal I mean you can also open them the full way now without using it the proper way though then
No, you can do it. It's multi-function. So basically you're changing the way they are built from the original German Augustine
No, no, no, they've always been built that way. Oh
You can like open them all the way or you can just open them a little
So the sauce
You'll come along eventually
Highlight just to talk about kind of the duality of chat. Yes one of them
Then these are right next to each other one says calamaz he wouldn't know he doesn't open windows
I'm very sure and then the other one says calamaz the lord of warlocks bringer of doom the warlock community loves you heart-heart
Nice, so you got some fans you got some haters
It's a good mix like everyone or to mine cannot comprehend German windows. No cuz Florida's not part of Germany
It's part of Florida some country. Yeah, it's a state, but yeah, it's some country basically
Yeah, yeah, Germany is a state within the EU. No, yeah, there was a funky Twitter poach
Yeah, I saw that
Myself myself. I'm sorry big shout out to our social media guy. He's great, but I just had to
There's a very good post last night about the
Final boss with the Triple H insurance you that no, oh, he didn't see it
That guy singing the Triple H intro. It's time to play the game. You should check it out. It's very good
Yeah, you should link to me.
I will.
You don't have to right now, it's okay.
Oh, I'll do it right now, don't worry.
I'm a bit busy right now, so I won't be able to watch anyway.
That one, yeah, exactly that.
You had to be there.
Yeah, maybe.
It's good, check it out, doing a very good job.
Very good job.
All right.
I'm just laughing at this.
I was looking at the pinned comment,
fortunately German windows need not be gator proof.
That's true.
That's a good call.
That is very true.
We don't have swamp puppies in Germany.
What unique animals do you have over there?
Unique?
Yeah.
Uniqua animals.
Do you know a fun fact in German?
The raccoon is translated directly as a washbear.
Yeah, that's true.
Oh, that's exciting.
Yeah.
Oh.
Because they wash their food, but they only do it in captivity.
Only in captivity, yeah.
So they're domesticated, basically.
No, like if you see a raccoon in a zoo, they'll wash your food, but they only do that when they're in captivity
Like say he's a four-demand actually. Yeah, you wash your food only in captivity
Yeah, you don't wash it any washing Kalamazoo does is only when he's fortunate
Yeah, morning his pants ten days in a row now, I'm joking actually I was denied long okay
No, you can actually wear denim for a lot of days before you can that's true very true
But I'm not one to do that past two days. Okay. All right. Well, we've got a I don't think we have I keep thinking about it
But I don't think we have like unique animals in Germany. Maybe like a type of bird or something, but
All right, I think most of the animals we share with like the neighboring country was at the links question mark
I don't links are in Florida. Well, it links exist in other countries
We have
Like oh, what are they called in chat? We'll know maybe so we have muffle, which I don't know if other countries have those
But probably like Austria should should have them it's like a goat with the
Rounded or Ram
Maybe maybe that's the same thing. It's got the horns that did to the squirrel. Yeah, that's fun for horns
Very exciting
Like I just like the word not a ram says somebody in chat
Ibex new triad is new triad is not
exclusive to Germany no
But our spiders unique spiders over there. Oh, I don't think so. We don't really have dangerous
Spiders to be honest, which is good
Let me I'm looking up what the English word is for the animal that I'm thinking of it
Plurip mousse. It's still mousse, right?
I see the moose or meese one or two.
Another early P1 wipe here.
That is one of those things that I think is going to be very important to figure out today.
It's P1 consistency. I think that is sleeper the most important part of progression here.
We do have some trans box to go off so we're going to be taking a look at those.
You guys have been sending them in.
And in English the word is Muflon. It's a wild sheep native to Cyprus.
Okay?
Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia and Iran and in parts of Europe.
Oh, there we go.
Inquisitor Salem from the Gilcourt.
So, no mage can be above an 8.0 for me.
Just based on the class I've chosen, I'm sorry you made the wrong decision.
I think this is like a 7-5?
It's unique, I guess in a sense.
Yeah, I think the weapons go well here. I like that off-hand a lot.
I do too low thing it fits it's like a mind you the mobs and try the storm. Yeah, it is a little tight say Jess
Yeah, which is not bad. Yeah, I think it says 7576 is where I put this
8.3. All right, it's not bad
I'll go with 8 also. I like this eight so much for sending out in sale
Yeah, thank you so much
All right, Randy back into another poll here on mythic queen and shrek
Like I've talked about before, one of the big things in this phase is consistency and also being consistent at consistently dropping the webs and I fell Nova pools in the correct positions.
Doing so means you have extra room in the first intermission when you're being pulled in, and as you saw the last pull they had, but you have Gootwood out here, we can get him on here really fast.
As you saw in the last pull when they're popping these two Frostpools here, towards the end of that intermission when they're all being pulled in by the boss, they beat the third grip in.
But there was still basically nowhere to go room-wise the entire room was covered in webs right trying to overlap
So you can even make a tiny little pie slice, but if you're at a position in the earliest ages here
It makes the final phase that much tougher
Yeah, I think that this is a it's a case of we don't just need to beat the third grip
We actually need to beat it by enough so that the webs have an expanded to fill the ground too much
Or we need to find a way to be tighter with our positioning to create a little bit of a wider corridor for longer
in that intermission which it's going to be tough to do. It looks like we've got a jump-off
call made here. Something has gone awry on this bowl as well.
Well, something that has not gone awry is a big donation we must have gotten in the
last couple of hours. Casey Callum is sending in $1,000 saying,
Hi Puppers also, Zyro is the goat. So big shout out to Big X and also to Casey
Kalamaz, thank you so much for your generosity. It's all going to great cost, the sent up Monica animal shelter
And as you can see we're getting closer and closer to our next stretch gold 20k marker
Where we'll have a date with the Zalatath, whatever that means
I'm curious to see what that means actually. Can we get some love and chat for this person? That's a huge donation
Indeed
Indeed
Trados, I had a question, right? I asked Jack a question earlier. I'm not sure if you have any
interesting takes or insight into this. So as far as the comp is concerned on this boss,
we are indeed running one dev, a two preservation, and one ogre.
But do you think it's any like, if they're wanting to make a general comp swap, is there any class that might want one of us here
based on the pro-frost we've seen, or just is it more of a wait-and-see-what-face where it looks like kind of angle here?
Because that red paladin has been in and out a handful of times.
We have two frosty caves here, but they've also been sort of very niche, but very good at times.
Do you think this is a well-rounded comp or?
It looks like they're playing too depth as well right? Not the no augs if I'm not mistaken
I okay. I thought I might have been an auger really. I've only seen they may have experiments with both okay
Yeah, either way. I mean that we've seen that double the triple dev comp. Yeah, they really like that that looker
Hmm blazing very strong here as well, right? So we're doing places powerful
Yeah, it does a lot of damage as well some of its damage isn't showing up on details as well when when you play scale commander
Your bombardments are attributed to the people triggering them
not you, on details currently, so the Dababooker damage is actually a little bit better than it looks, which is already quite good.
They've got that good shield damage as well as, ooh, unfortunately it looks like we've got...
Is this gonna work? It is gonna work, wow.
Little awkward there.
That was an awkward placement of those, but maybe this is actually good, hang on, maybe this is the plan now.
Because that's gonna save them space during the fight.
Yeah, it's just having a good bit of space. Hopefully those ladies are basically synced in proper fashion there as well.
Yeah, see where this goes long term.
So back to the combat discussion.
Yeah, it's hard to... So the Frosty Kays are really nice because they aren't going to need any help with any of the movement abilities.
Having a couple of people that can then occupy that melee space without having to ever worry about getting gripped off the platform in the intermission and in the second phase is nice.
I like the Rep Halley as well. One of the biggest strengths of the Rep Halley on this fight is this phase where you have those silken tubes coming out.
The Halleyes get to greet him not just themselves but also somebody else too and that is really
nice for just removing a bunch of those silken tombs from this phase.
So I like that spec or that reason as well.
There is also some value in this fight in having buffs on both sides of P2.
That would be an argument for something like a second Havoc DH for instance if damage
in P2 is tight, being able to apply that cast brand to the mobs on both sides.
That's another benefit of running those two pallies at length for now, they help of course
with the freedoms in those early stages like you're seeing right now, but they also help
in getting that aura spread out to both of the sides, so some double action coming in
here.
Yeah, I'm not sure if I have any recommendations or things that I would want to see them
try or change in this comp, maybe the second mage can come out, I'm not sure.
doesn't seem particularly hot on this fight.
Yeah, possibly. I guess it sort of depends on your battles that range to melee, but unlike how you saw, unlike
Nexus Princess, there isn't as much of a
hard requirement for a certain number of range versus melee.
Yeah, the hardest spot is you do want to have enough range to make that four froth overlap.
Right. It doesn't require somebody to go out of melee for too long. Yes.
But even that's not that bad. You just send a tank to do it or something, or a holy palade.
Yeah, well we do indeed make it through that fourth wall up here. We have both
Zivian Seng as well as Impec down here. They are going to commit to lust here and
try and burn through this shield. We do indeed lose Impec as well as Scott here.
So it's likely will not be a clean phase two push, but they're getting
consistently back to the shield now. It's better than it was three hours ago.
Yeah, it's definitely good progression that they are making. I think it's,
every time this happens and we get a boss that gets immune and you go into
an ad phase. It becomes so hard to track on what's good progression. You cannot really
go by the boss percentages anymore and you rather need to really look like what can they
do, what have they changed. Right now you're seeing that there's still that bloodlust on
that shield but with how many people are dead that grip is coming in and sending the
rest of them into the waves. But in forms of what they had available on that platform
this looked actually really good. We had some extra space there. We could have
gone a little bit longer, we wouldn't even need it to if we didn't have people dying.
So it's a trade-off that is more minute than what you see in some other bosses.
Yeah, very much so. I mean, even losing one person there makes it much harder to deal with
that four froth, that four froth soak. We'll try and say that three times fast, because
it imbalances the stack count when you pop certain ones. So all the rage is taking
more damage from that one person being down. If it's a hero that goes down without
whereas that's basically almost a guaranteed wipe there, right?
You're taking 67% of your health,
plus going into the intermission where you're being pulled across the room,
it's a tremendous amount of ray damage coming in.
And also, like the longer we go into this fight we've talked about,
I mean, obviously on a kill point, you're not going to lose anybody there,
but you want to get that boss as low as humanly possible going into that shield.
That best pull of 63.58 being probably three and a half hours ago, if not now.
It was, I think, it was like third pull of the day.
But like you said, it's hard to base progression off of raw percents here.
It's more we're seeing intermission how far are we getting
The portal is being handled properly going from there
So a lot you have to keep in mind with how a boss like this is progressed is
That they can always find more damage, of course until a certain limit as we have hit at Chavez a but
Right now, right?
They can do so much better in terms of raw DPS in phase one once they actually have all the motions down
And then that intermission will get that same treatment where that shield becomes easier and easier as soon as players have figured it out
No exactly where they need to be don't need to be
Worrying about their own health bars about whether or not they live maybe sitting in immunities
Etc. Etc. So that will be something that just automatically
The more often you see it the better you progress it players will be able to find damage
That's not necessarily what you can base the progress on right now.
You really need to watch out for how are they dealing with certain mechanics.
And we saw a change last night where they looked at these frogs and they inverted them saying,
okay, we actually would much rather have the mellies outside and the range is inside.
We have this whole room that we can spread out through and allow us to be a little bit safer on these corners.
And that's exactly the changes you're looking for to try and speed up progression,
Even if it looks like we're just taking tiny steps a thousand steps. We'll get you there, too
It's just gonna take a little while longer. Yeah, we'll be the first skill to get there, but I
It's certainly certainly you've seen it also in Peru twister like for example
They pulled that boss back three or four days ago progression way into that corner trying to optimize damage even early on
When he was moving from one cancer to the next and yeah
You can see Scott and you have both pulling him pretty far the intro pretty far back into these pools here
Like you said, trying to get every little bit of space possible so players can live the intermission has a space for the roots
And then once all clears have a pretty good intermission transition
Yeah, they are definitely playing these two guys. There's closer than they used to be as well
Making it so that they don't have as much of that room committed
Does require people to stand not in the overlap of that like Venn diagram of the two of them
But they're able to figure that out and save a tiny bit of room space
That is very valuable here is that huge tank he'll absorb lands on yips
They've been setting this up to always have him take that feast and always have Scott take the liquefy
Which I'm actually surprised that you're able to do that
You don't have to both have both tanks take both mechanics
The it the debuff falls off in time that you can just always have them both
Basically, there's a big hit and then there's another big hit that leaves behind a heal absorb
and you have to keep tanking with the heal absorb because the
The liquefy gives you a big physical damage taken increase instead, so the heal absorb and then tanking the boss with a huge heal absorb on you is landing on Yip's every single time, and that brewmaster is just able to stagger it off and tank the boss for long enough to get healed through that 35 mil absorb.
He ate the damage with ease.
Yeah, so that next liquefied will be coming soon.
Scott's gonna take the boss right now.
Move the boss back over into the corner in a sec.
Take this initial liquefied hit.
Bang! And now Yipz takes the feast.
And Yipz has a massive, you can see that heal absorb on him.
Already only down to 23 mil.
But he is now not receiving healing until that heal absorb gets broken through.
So you can see his health bar is shrinking.
But he's made it through that heal absorb and is now fine.
Looks like he was given a guardian spirit there too.
two just in case things went a little bit less well than that. Yep we didn't see we did indeed see
Guqa down there ahead of Reds to commit to him so that worked out pretty well. What we're going to
see here is the final set of four froths coming out placing them in front of the boss here I believe
Yip's is receiving that tiger's lust if not regardless dragging the boss through these four
froths maximizing your melee uptime as well as this overall placement in the room. We're
going to backtrack into our four soaks here after these webs are finished and this is that
That's causing them a lot of problems with having players down.
Everyone's alive here, fortunately, but there's going to be a lot of raid damage coming in here,
even with proper stack placement, coming in about three, two, about one, and about, uh, well...
Yeah, now there you go, right?
But the good thing is we all did indeed survive that.
We have no better as we do have Lus being committed to this shield here.
Watch that blue bar and Goopski's screen drop incredibly fast here.
All 20 alive, Lus being committed in a lot of room to drop the spider weapons here.
We should see a pretty clean push, hopefully, into this intermission.
Yeah, Unravel talented by these evokers, letting them do some extra shield damage, every few globals on this thing.
That's really nice little bit of extra value that they do bring, getting gripped in.
Everybody's still alive and we're gonna beat that third grip.
We have a little bit of space here as well as those webs do grow and expand and slowly push them into that tiny remaining corridor.
But we have 20 players alive now at the start of B2.
This is looking really promising.
Tanks we think are gonna do that first swap through that portal in a second here. Yep. You can see yep
Bang only one of them was able to get the other just exploded. That is the end of that
Ragek that bull was looking so good. We were so likely to get some progress there
I'm not first-faced and the intermission both look so clean good
Those are the kind of poles you just want to go back to back in that is exactly how we're trying to stabilize that first face as
as well as that intermission to get through it consistently,
through it clean, and we're looking to just reproduce that
to then maybe get a look at that second phase again,
but it looked like it was two people in the same portal
that went boom, or what was it?
I think somebody didn't go through to make it yet.
Okay, they were not fast enough.
Yeah, like a second to late keeper take.
It's a pretty tight time to be able
to make both those portals well.
So you have 10 seconds per portal,
and we do believe they're trying to swap the tanks first.
It might have been a bit of like miscommunication there.
We believe Scott made it through.
We could see him come through on that bear,
but the second one exploded about when he finished
that transition over to the other side.
So then it was probably Ypsu didn't make it?
Probably.
Because if one tank goes through, it should be both.
I know it's Nick and Sterey are combined.
Possibly.
It's probably like tank-tank-healer-healer.
Yeah, you can swap healers and tanks at the same time.
Right.
We saw them initially experimenting with swapping healers
at the very start. But it looks like now they're swapping tanks on that very first go. And
then we need to have assignments for all of the future portal swaps with probably, probably
what you do is you'll just always swap any mirrors with each other, right? So like the
two DKs are going to swap with each other, the two mages. And you can kind of see on
the group frames, they've split up groups one and two and groups three and four to
be those sides, right? So you've got Yipson group three and Scott and group one,
the usual thing of both tanks in group 1 because you're expecting to have the kind of two groups
be on the opposite sides of each other. It's going to be weird though as they swap in the
middle.
Are the portals always in the same spot?
Yeah.
The first one is always in the same spot?
Yeah.
Are all of them in the same spot?
The two sets of portals that we've seen so far have always been in the far edge
of the room and then the far edge of the platform, yeah.
I believe the ones on the first platform have been in the same spot as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's up in the air if there will be a third.
I think they will.
I believe it will.
It's a strange part of RNG to add, yeah.
I don't think it will even change a whole lot in first place.
It wouldn't.
Yeah.
It's more about managing that short duration you have to swap the portals, right?
Well, so you don't want to go in too quick as well because you can't do too many swaps,
right?
You can only ever use 10 portals.
Each person in your raid can only go through the portal once a day.
So if you go through it, it starts the next cast sooner and then you're in a lot
more trouble.
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Ready for this?
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the plane.
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that I ran on the floor was apparently mine, so...
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Unlucky.
Overrolled.
These things happen.
That's life.
I'm still chewing, sorry.
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I love it when I have to chew my drink.
Statements uttered by the terrain.
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oh, I'm not only getting hydration,
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If you change your mind, you can have that.
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You're going to get there.
We're good. We're through.
We're through.
Just like our Raiders, we just had a really, really good pull before all of the tragedy came upon us.
It's almost a frustrating pull because everything was so good.
And then you went to the first portal swap and you're like, ah!
You know that you've made it through with all of these spots where people can die and all of these dodges and things.
and then you don't really actually convert that into progression.
I'm surprised that that didn't yield an immediate,
we got a pull again, for Max.
It seems like they do have stuff to talk about and think about
even after a pull like that, which is good.
So I think this is at least a second time it happened now.
So maybe they're thinking about how to avoid that.
What can they do to kind of facilitate players getting to their portals on time?
If they're always at the same spot,
maybe it was just far to get there for YIPS,
because that was the player we were missing, right?
Notably, Paladins are not the most mobile of classes.
He does have that little Paladin pony that he can get on, but...
Yps, he's on the brood, right?
He's still on the brood, yeah.
He's on the brood master. He can roll right into it.
Somebody who said Paladin, so I...
Well, the Paladins will go up at some point regardless.
Well, I don't know if it's on the gender though.
I don't think in that swap.
Yeah, one's holy and one's red.
Right, exactly. And we're gonna swap healers with healers
rather than doing Paladins with Paladins, I think.
Yeah, exactly. So I mean, it depends. Some classes are more mobile than others, but I think one point to hit on here is like
We talked about health thresholds not being a great point of progression to go off of but
I've been in her first shift and now second
They've been hitting these points where they're getting progression in unfortunately. Margaret molex was down here
I'll backtrack what i'm saying, but we can get him up
Where they're hitting that point and they're getting to it
If not further like almost every other pole there hasn't been like an hour of regression back in the phase
when wiping a bunch. They're hitting these points in phase one which is a pretty complicated phase
and getting past it or to that point very consistently which is what you want to see here right.
So we do see them dropping that first set of froths there moving forward a bit more.
These webs need to be dropped in a very tight pattern which we see here a bit of stack
cleave coming in breaking them pretty quickly. We talked about the big choke point here
in the first phase before the intermission being the fourth
froth drop which we're going to see three of coming in here momentarily.
For the most part, it hasn't been that threatening on this 3-drop, we did lose Malarkas early on, so we have no better odds available.
But the main, I guess, pressure point in this phase comes from losing somebody early on and not having a better odds available.
You see three frobs come out here, Portray's alive, so there should be even soaks without any excess raid damage coming in.
Soaks coming about now, we're going to pop Melee into that circle, into that diamond pop right there.
Spreading through, you'll see the large raid damage coming in in about 5 seconds here with 3,
And the next one is going to be the 4th Froth Pop.
We do this impact here, which is going to make that 4th Pop pretty tough to deal with.
But we'll see if we can...
Anka's available though, and used.
So we are going to be able to get this even without the B-Rez.
20 players alive, the next set of routes come out.
Pretty quickly dealt with.
The ones that aren't breakable are taken under the boss.
And the ones that are breakable are out to the sides and immediately broken
by effects like Tiger's Lest, Blessing, Freedom, Shape Shift, etc.
We have had two more deaths come out though with Goop and Malarkas both going down.
They're going to keep this pull going, but with two players dead, we are now looking at six stacks of the debuff on this set of froths.
And that is not unsurvivable, but it's also not particularly survivable.
It's certainly very tough. We have time to hurry up here pretty fast before these four pops come in.
You'll notice that six stacks here, the raid damage coming out after these four pop is going to be almost insurmountable.
Oh, we've had an early pop incident or a late pop on the first one.
Some combo of those effects.
One of those mythic changes that we haven't talked about too much recently is that you can't pop
two of those geysers within a second of each other or else it wipes your raid. So
when you get to four of them, that requires some pretty precise timing. Right? Why does this happen?
It's like a second between them. Yeah, it's one second between them. So the first one goes
instantly, the melee camp, they get sent instantly. And then it is, you can see them here,
circle purple green and it goes like bomb bomb bomb right after another and if you don't do that people die
if you go too early people die because it's the double damage from the
Sending it itself and if you send it too late. Well, then you're gonna get caught up in that Nova
Yeah, it's exceptionally precise on top of the fact Nova is spreading outwards
Which is why you can see those markers there that diamond and triangle
They have those two range camps in the back being further out
So they stagger the pops and the range camps get basically popped and knocked across the Nova
Negating that Nova's damage, but also once again having to balance those four pops within
one second at each other and
Hoping to have a whole ray of line for that and not accruing any additional stacks because additional stacks hurt exceptionally bad
I'm that dot heading into that intermission
We're getting there we're getting there it's
It's 2.21 local PM, that also means that it's starting to get late over in Germany, 11.21 PM.
I believe Acre have stopped for the day. They started, of course, at 5 AM on their reset, so you don't want to push it too much.
Yes.
Method on the other hand...
They're still re-clearing.
Method had a slightly different day.
Oh, yes.
Because they ended there yesterday at 4.30 AM.
Yes.
And so they woke up a little bit later,
didn't take advantage of that 5 AM EU reset,
took and set advantage of sleep,
and have been going a little bit later today,
which does make sense.
When did it end for them?
You're saying you said?
So they killed the boss at four,
four AM at one minute.
Our time?
Local time?
For us local.
No, they're local time.
In the middle of the night, they went really late.
And then they also like had a look at work
just real quick.
The way that Europe works is the maintenance starts at 3 a.m. their time and the reset
is 5 a.m. But the maintenance often doesn't take the full duration of that.
Maintenance usually is 15 minutes.
Right.
If you're an NA player, you're not used to that.
In NA, we get the longer maintenance because we get the maintenance first and they have
to test all these things and stuff, test all the new changes whenever they do these
maintenance.
Right.
So in EU, what happened was, nothing had like a 2% wipe, then the servers went down
and they made the call of let's stay up, wait for this maintenance to finish,
come back in and kill Siliconcourt before the reset.
I didn't even know that.
And they did.
Infrared his maintenance comes in at like 3am, so they were already going on the hill then.
Then maintenance came and then they went back and then they actually killed it,
looked at Anterac, went to bed and just said,
okay well we'll get a bunch of sleep tonight because we know this is a marathon.
This boss is going to take a couple of pulls anyway, so they're now still doing your splits.
I don't know if they've re-cleared yet.
Um, I'd be surprised if they have all the bosses already.
I believe they're in Heroic Splits currently.
Yeah, I just don't know what they did first.
So I think they're doing the Heroic Splits first.
So we'll probably, they're a little bit more on an NA friendly schedule now.
Yeah! They're sort of accidentally converted into any of ours.
Something you do want to avoid.
They also got very unlucky with their loot.
I will say they didn't drop a single Spy Masters,
at least not from the boss itself.
But maybe in the vaults. So Max was here yesterday night saying they alone from so they got they dropped one from killing the boss itself and they had four more in vaults. So they got a lot of mythics by masters from that single kill and super work.
Yeah, we were talking about how important that kill was to look with. I think that's one of those nights where I mean obviously the race is not over yet. We don't know.
But that's one of those nights and one of those calls that if it had gone a bit later, it's tough making that decision.
Do you stay late? You would, but early can come back the next day.
Those calls often can make or break a race.
But the fact that they killed that boss opened up the last slot in the vault for handful of players,
got them spymasters in their vaults, and that could very well be the call that wins them this race.
Depending on where things go on.
Cleanshorec, progression looking pretty solid today for the most part.
Still early on, but I'm venturing to guess deep into phase two later on into the evening tonight.
Yeah, I don't think that the, I don't think that they will be pushing too late on Ancerac today.
I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow we're entering the realm of like, oh, maybe we have a decision.
Maybe we'll go a bit longer.
Yeah.
You know, we didn't have that sneaky 5am kill on Sarkara.
Yeah, that could be the other option, the early to bet, early to rise.
That could also be the play, yeah, possibly.
Yeah.
a bit on how they're feeling and also how close we are. Actually I know there's so much time still
in the day like right now we're talking around about 11 hours that they still have in today
for Team Liquid. Yeah I don't think they'll push it. 11 hours would get us to 1am right?
Oh? Yes. Yeah, it'd be like 1.38. No, it'd be 1.30.
11 hours would get us to like 11.30?
No, 14 plus 11 is 25. Oh.
It's 24 hours a day. Yeah, you're right. I did math wrong.
We got 24 hours a day in the U.S.
Yeah, sorry.
We got like nine hours if we want to be done before midnight, right?
It's alright.
I added an hour where I should have subtracted one.
Yeah, it's complicated with these 24 hour clocks.
clock. That's why us in America, we only count to 12.
I actually use that time. You can see on my phone, I have 1426 in my corner.
Oh yeah, I do the American. You have AM, PM. Yeah, mine says 226.
The problem is that I actually have two times on my phone. Oh, that's good. How do you do that?
It's like a widget. You can get different time zones. So wherever I am in the world,
I always see home time zone. Pretty good tech. I have a curse to schedule. So I say
I'm out there referring to 2AM people.
I have to say, you know, 14, 0, 200, that works out pretty well.
We're going to be taking another look at Transmox here.
You guys have been doing great reporting our cheer.
Oh wow.
And Incomes at Galatia.
That's a 10.
That's a good one.
One Tusk of Manoroth, one, you know, Dinosaur Head.
Wow.
That's a combo for sure.
That's a Christ Seratop trend.
Sentin' by Anonymous, too.
Yeah.
Well, no, this is the obsidian slayer.
Oh, yeah.
We know who this is.
I give this a 9.3, this is very solid.
I almost wish the weapons had enchants, but at the same time, them being, like, in their natural form is pretty cool too.
I like how the weapons are kind of halfway between each of the shoulders as well.
They've got the Tuscan manor off the colors, and then their, you know, dinosaur-y.
The BFA work, yeah.
Very cool.
You like that.
9.3, I think this is good.
That's 10 for me.
We give it a little spin one more time.
Turn that thing around.
Yeah, where's that Tettle's voice line?
Well, I guess we cannot turn it around.
Fine.
Um, uh, all right, I would give it an eight.
I thought it was a very unique kind of concept, but
Carolina, Carolina.
Yeah, it's a, it's either, but sent in by same name,
Carolina.
The conqueror of Knox-Bromas.
Fun fact, that's almost two states we have in this country.
Here, Carolina, Carolina and California.
Well, we have, we have two Carolinas.
with North Carolina and South Carolina.
Oh okay.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah, there you go.
I like the basic mocks.
I also currently run that back mock, the little backpack.
Yeah, there's so many cool backpacks actually.
Yeah.
I like the treasure chest one that was on the trading post.
Yeah, I got that one as well.
The little sack of loot, the one with the sword sticking out of it.
This one is nice.
It's almost like a utilitarian, you know, you think, uh, it fits the mock.
I like that I'll go to 8.7 as well now. I'll go with 8.7 as well. All right. Oh, that's a good score a rare agreement from our judges
Very true actually thank God tell us enough here. Yeah, that's true
He was yeah, I've never heard him give a higher than a four. He told me last night
It doesn't have a tail. It's not a little bit eight. That's that wasn't a secrecy though. So don't tell me that all right
All right. Well just between you and me and the thousands people watching yeah, it's both IRL ending game
So yeah, I'll just pretend I didn't hear that. That's good. I wish I could do that. Yep
Trying to get back to those really good tries we did see shortly before the raiders started
Discussing some of their strats it looked like
Yeah, getting the triple frosts here. The froth management is very important here
Keeping it in as tight of a line as possible with the existing junk on the floor
They barely managed to get over that Nova in time
Players spreading ahead with that big green circle so that the other players the rest of the rage don't have to move too much
Now we're paving backwards
Trying to keep the ground clear
Lizard ever names things with knowing that race world first casters will have to say them over and over again
I have to say right there's a really hard word to pronounce. I will say it's a gross word as well
Froth yeah, I don't like it. Let me think of coffee
Like a milk froth. Hmm. Yeah froth is a nice word. I don't
I like that word. We're like the froth on the sea when the waves go crashing down. Yeah, makes me think of um
Um, dropping Berserker. Either that's a Hearthstone card or a Warrior Talon.
Hmm, maybe both.
I think it's, yeah, isn't it both?
Could be.
Hmm.
You play a Warrior anyway, you should know that, sir.
Yeah, yeah, there was, I think, dropping Berserker.
Walking.
It's sketchy, alright?
Help bars are safe.
Yeah.
We got a top before this dot explodes, but it's only a four stack, so it shouldn't
be too lethal.
Damage coming in.
Yeah, AMZ's come down to Larkas in the most danger, but is saved.
Looks like we've gotten through to the intermission with 20 alive. Will we be able to stay that way?
Touching the middle of the boss here will lead to an immediate crunch and death
You're playing on the opposite side of the boss as the rest of the rate because he doesn't really need too much healing
This can help them keep the space safe for everybody else
You can see the DK is kind of coming over here as well
Dropping their webs in the junk on the other side of the room as they don't get gripped. Thanks to that's advanced
Yeah, that shields me broken here with all 20 alive.
Nicely done.
A little corner in there.
Okay.
So we think that Yps and Bean Baker are going to be swapping.
Yep, and you can see actually in the middle of the screen there, we now have some weak
aura adjustments that are assigning a specific portal, taking two specific players, and looks
like that's been done.
Now Yps is going to get to spells to drop that puddle, off to the side.
Next portals we're gonna try and beat. Looks like we've beaten them.
Alright, up to the next spot.
Okay, so, oh.
Spell on Dranaco took him down there.
Unlucky.
Okay, it's fine. We'll just move on to our next set.
Looks like fired up in Goop. I think it's supposed to be fired up in Dranaco would be the next set here, but Dranaco already took it.
And then it would be Sang that would be meeting up with Goop and Riku being called because he's the next in order.
in order so then it would probably end up being a smack that will be the next one on the next take
txt and boomy is the call look at that damage look at the damage and the portal covered in the
spells here as well if we can make this though taking gay from thc here hit thc and he made it
through we needed to spell back in these roots here if we can kill this mob though we'll see
second part of this fight coming up really big mission click those bridge here we go okay and
that should kill off the rogers and we should now have a new set of portals yep you can see
There's one up here on this platform any new mythic changes that we can notice here
So we're at the ceiling oh no
I think right you're talking with with oh my god. Wow. Yeah already
That is a question that I personally have what are the acolytes doing there
Just saying that I don't know the fight becomes a little more mythic
Let's take a look at a replay so we can see if we can glean some information about what exactly those ads might be doing
So before we get there just a quick explainer every single time you go through these portals
You end up with the circle you just saw on THD that needs to be dispelled and that leaves a void that is permanent and
Then you will run out of space, but they made it up to the bridge
Okay, and we're here and suddenly there's an acolyte
Two acolytes are dropping down and I think there are two on the other side as well
And they're gonna start casting dark detonation a 10-second cast and needs a kick now
What actually wipes them here is the heroic ad the devoted worshipper
Finished their cosmic apocalypse cast right then as well
So that's the timer we need to get to this platform and kill the devoted worshipper before then before that cast finishes
So here's the other side maybe is the explanation
Oh, is this the other side?
Because I don't see any hanging spiders on this side.
Don't either.
I see.
I think they're only on one side.
Maybe.
We get the replay of the other direction, because it's.
Well, we can see it.
Yeah, there's no ads are hanging on this side, right?
Can we get the replay of the other side production,
the one we had before?
Because it looks like there were acolytes hanging down
from the platform on the other side in the background.
So this is.
This is the impact site.
If we can go to the THD side.
Basically replay the first yeah, and then we go up the bridge. Yeah
Yeah, okay next frame next frame. So now we go up on this side. So they spawn left and right of
Yes, they're gonna spawn in in about three seconds here once he applies
Angles to the left now. I thought you could see some in the background as well. So
Okay, so okay one side
We have two Acolytes.
We have two Acolytes, an Expeller, and a Worshiper.
I think there was a Guardian on the other side instead.
Maybe we can swap back to Impact's POV
and see what that looks like on the other side as well.
So on Impact's side, yeah, there's Chamber Guardian there,
casting Oust on the tank.
So one side has an extra melee add, the Chamber Guardian.
And the other side has those two Phase 3 adds, the Worshipers.
Now our question is, what do those Worshipers do?
do because on heroic the last phase that dropped from the ceiling start at 60% health with a 40%
shield and you need to break through that shield to land kicks on them these ones didn't work that way
these ones when they reached here which are on again they're on the other side so we would
thdsbob would see uh there's a lot going on spiders on the other side perhaps if we could swap
over to his perspective yes so there you see the chamber acolytes casting dark detonation but
They aren't like the P3 Heroic adds, they don't have a shield on them.
Are they holding something where when you kill them you need to pick it up?
Yeah.
Like you do in P3 Heroic?
Or are they just extra adds, different types of adds?
That need to be like interrupted.
Yeah.
This is going to be huge because now we have a difference in what's on which side.
Which means we're going to want different classes than we previously planned for.
To make sense of this damage profile, right?
On this side, we have two static adds hanging off the sides.
And on the other side we have one extra melee at yeah, so what we're gonna want is we're gonna want to think about okay
Which classes are gonna be able to do this tree target? Well at the same time portal swapping to change here? Yeah, right?
Exactly this is this is huge
So I wouldn't be surprised if this is like a 30 minute strategy session about figuring out what two classes are gonna now
You know because we had these portal swaps sort of we penciled some in just thinking alright
Let's just do some portal swaps right and now we need to think about okay
What's gonna be good at each of these two different platforms?
Well, um, of course we want to hear what's going on with the Raiders, so we'll be going
to a monster energy listen and check what they're saying.
There's too far off the platform, and there are only milleages over there, we literally
couldn't get them.
What's the story?
It's like there's some kick introspection, like you take them and then they put something.
Yeah, I bet they go to the other platform.
I just don't get why we have a guardian on our side, I know you guys don't.
What is a guardian?
It's the tanks, Michelle.
They make it special.
I mean, we can just swap the tanks again, right?
I'm down for a second, Smash.
Dude, I think we just keep it the same right now, and we just get two kicks on those.
We just need to assign a different aura.
So Star and Orange are going to be...
Assigning kicks are going to be so weird if they swap sides.
They might swap, like, the different platforms just don't look the same.
I really don't think swap sides, because there's an extra add on the other platform.
Yeah, it would be crazy if one side has to deal with the Guardian.
Okay, we're going to have to change groups then.
So we need all ranged and we need the first two people on the first platform.
So basically we need one group to be two melee and full ranged, right?
And then we just have those two melee swap with a ranged on the other side
at the beginning of the first platform, just so you have all ranged on the second platform.
Ideally and then you just get range kicks and you just assign a star and orange range kick rotation
We can easily do that. I can give me a do you guys want to do p1 while I set that up or what do you want to do?
Yeah, let's do it. I feel like p1 you guys understand it, but poles are probably still helpful
I think majors will try when I'm both three on the side with the ankle lights. Yeah, of course
I'm putting all the range on that side
So, the Acolyte side is in the intermission. Which side is the Acolyte side?
The Acolyte side.
One thing also that it's good to be aware of is that you can put focus on the portals.
So if you're planning on focusing on the advocate or something, make sure you're not focusing.
Like, accidentally focusing the portal through that, which I did.
Also, you have to focus.
You have to account max, like, you know, people are going to take the portal, so moving them all over isn't...
I know.
Yeah.
Do you want both mages on the skull side or no?
I don't think that's a part of it.
OK.
I'm doing this now.
I know what we need to do.
You guys are either pulling the boss or you're
giving me five minutes to do it.
I'm just trying to re-organize our group to get a piece.
This group, it's not going to change this whole.
If you guys are pulling without me fixing it,
nothing is changing, all right?
Let's just see if you want to get.
Yeah, let's do it.
Let's call if there's nothing to share.
I'm just gonna stick a 10.
I'm just gonna stick a 10.
You want a quick delve?
Yeah. There's no way there's still a keys left.
I do. Let's see. I have...
I have one.
I have eight keys left.
I have four to get this week but there's no way I'm getting them.
I just want to hit one map, man. Just one trip.
Just one.
Just one.
Just in case you're sight the man up there.
I know what it will be. I already planned it all.
I'll place the vault.
Hang on, I've had this shit for months. That's not the one.
Wow.
Take that. Fuck you, take that.
Okay.
I don't like heroin.
Scott's back. Let's start a pull.
Who's gonna do the most damage in the raid to those specific adds right there?
Which ones?
Are there any ranged who will do bad damage to them is actually the question. The chamber reclates.
Probably Mark.
I'm not gonna take the ring of course.
Okay.
That's all I need to know.
You ready to recall?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Get a scott wants to be
They're getting a big hit. Yeah, how about you?
How about we get that drink it changed at it right now, it's looking a little good
That's when he's got how about we get a little more removed then
How about we get fucking roots removed and then you have to sit in time
I'd be down.
I'll just get you, I can go on.
Nah, that's just light.
Light, wait for me, more shooting, no light.
Boom.
Got GZ waves now.
I've run badly before.
Immune in second routes.
When did the AADK cities come out and beat you?
Like a body.
Okay.
I'm gonna run away with the lines.
Lighting lines away from the markers.
And Prisput for toxin while they're dodging.
And Prisput.
what are the two acly markers that stone orange yeah i mean is the one book on
board be careful dodge and bit liquefying bit liquefying and this is the
roots we're breaking get under make sure you space and dotted lines and then
last toxins now if you didn't get one be ready to get one make sure you
thread and look where you need to get locked to
there they come externals as well a little wall
We feed you the cake.
Oh, John, better walk in.
I'm gonna raise the pump.
Oh, I was late.
Four on the third here, I guess.
I'm not strong.
I'm too close, because I'm just not...
That's just so far from me.
Because it's just so...
Far from the boss.
Hey, what happened?
I just got assigned green.
It's like...
She's a lot of movement.
Still away from the boss.
Out of that max range.
So I was a slow.
Oh, yeah. Bad placement.
You should never get triangle. King triangle is very rare for you. I mean it's twice already. It's annoying. I mean, it's really rare
It's like really unlikely you'll ever get it
very rare
Also another friend. No, I don't know like every single class is out of personal. It's going into p2, but
I am getting that that portal just blows blows me up
That's because someone put a puddle we just fell too fast
Yeah, the other stuff
We're getting them when you guys come out of the portal
Is the spell like is the puddle
It's not going through the portal. Yes, that was when you just fell out when you just fell it spawns a portal
There's a pool of shadow, but someone just dispelled on top of the portal so you came out and took a ticket
So yeah, but it was a lot of topics you're gonna get this like I took like five million
Yeah, I
One shot me, I literally got fucking one shot that so.
I mean it's a 2.3 million every second ball.
It's like...
That's very powerful.
If you instantly go left and just pull it quick once they go left they're immune for two seconds.
That's fine, you get this ball to get just blank.
Loading up.
Here we have three boxes of dodge lines.
There's another assignment we should do.
Easy dodges now, those are the waves.
and bait liquefy, then immune in second routes and then run away with the lines
baiting lines away from the toxins pre-spread and we have the toxins now
push them, hard one back combo now dodge and then bait the webs and then
liquefy after, the rest recall, keep going for now, blast the routes until
We'll blast them, we're going dodge, nice, and then the last toxin's down, if you didn't
get one, be ready to get one, and free spread.
How many is that, alpha orange?
Overlap, get the spirocery, I know.
I'm dead, bye.
Alpha orange, no you're probably dead because I'm dead and all the healings go now.
We'll just leave it.
They wet.
I'm gonna change something too. You just just run into a way from that right here the so I'm gonna try to have Bart add this
But look at my stream like when you take this gate
Not to mention I believe now by the way you guys can trust the take a thing you can even see it on fire dust TV
You should actually take the gate at zero
Taking the gate at zero respect on the week or I just want to emphasize this one more time if you ever see take eight
You take it at zero not one
Make sure everyone knows that, okay, but right here, when you take it, I want you to get a
dispel right or dispel left, right?
Because we're only getting two dispels on this platform unless we fuck up, or we have a bunch
of people dead.
I feel like the first person should basically alter it.
Yeah, good tech there.
They're trying to set up how the people that move through those portals then move
afterwards for the dispels, because a lot of things that we were seeing in that
new best try that pose a lot of questions, where players coming through the portal and
standing in the goop from the previous person, hurts a lot, and that hurts a lot. So we're
trying to avoid that great monster energy. Listen in, they're setting up some new tech
for the acolytes as well. And that replay, you can see THD being very confused as to
like, there's acolytes spawning from the ceiling.
That was, that was something for sure. And they haven't gotten back there just
yet. But I think what we're going to see is probably slightly different group compositions
now because there's the two Acolytes on one side, there's the extra tank out on the other side,
so you're probably going to want melee DPS to mostly be on the side with that tank out that they
can hit, and ranged DPS mostly being on the side with those Acolytes that they can hit.
Yeah, you mentioned the big difference between those Acolytes here and the ones in Heroic
Infaestory was that they come down on Heroic with a shield at 60% and then they're
uninterruptible until you break that shield, whereas these ones were just interruptible
right from the start, 10 set casts on them as well, so it doesn't seem like it's going to be
like too much of a interrupt order. You think about like worms on Oven X, right? Those are
like fast cast time. We need interrupt orders. These ones at that 10 second cast, unless something
happens after you kick it that's bad, there's not too much pressure there. You just kick
it whenever you can.
Right. Yeah. I'm curious if you get to that third platform with their spires coming out
on the other half of the platform.
See, that's what I was thinking.
Which could cause a whole swap.
Yeah. Then you have some players swapping that are good at the each side.
Yeah.
Save them for the last swap. That could make sense. Yeah. I mean, there wasn't
to change to the first platform really from Heroic.
There was in the second platform,
who knows what might happen on that third platform.
It could be almost anything.
Like it has been making some great progress
in the last couple of hours,
looking at how they're tracing through that intermission,
through that ad phase.
And I'm sure we're gonna get some more deep runs
that maybe tell us more about what is awaiting us
on that very last platform.
Any bats you guys wanna take,
do you wanna lock in and say it's reverted?
Oh, like inverted? You mean like, I'm trying to think of the actual design of the platform.
I think it's sort of an enclosed third platform.
Yeah, the third platform is a little bit bigger than the first two, and there's a lot of extra room.
On Heroic, you also get those orbs being shot out on that platform from the start.
I bet there's an additional ad, and it might vary per side.
Yeah, maybe it can't be the same as Heroic.
A guardian on one side, and so maybe inverted from the different ads that are on that second platform?
Yeah, that could be it.
It could be, yeah.
Any other theories?
I kind of feel like the numbers check is pretty tight already.
I don't think there's room for more ads on that last platform,
but maybe there will be.
I mean, we exploded coming onto that platform.
So that means we should have killed that at the same time
that we were walking onto it.
Pretty much.
But I think there's a lot of damage
that needs to be found there, but also a lot of players
were already on the floor.
However, we do have something we want to remind you of because we are getting very, very close to our 20,000 stretch.
What is it? I keep saying the word wrong. It's a stretch goal.
Stretch goal, yeah.
A stretch goal. Yeah, it's a hard word for me to remember.
Less than $300 and we're going to be having a date with Zalatath.
And if you ever watched any of her afterdarks, you know this one's going to go haywire.
So I personally am interested. I know Tedels has been waiting on the sidelines just
Begging to do this day. Yeah, we can't let him down and all of your donations are of course going to the Santa Monica animal shelter
They have a lot of pets cad stocks sometimes also other critters if you want to check them out
Maybe look into adopting one steel dot gg slash adopt if you can't do that consider donating exclamation mark charity or
or TL.GG-slash-RWF-donate.
It is a really great cause helping all of those animals,
but right now it's kind of a double charity effect
because you're also helping Teddles get his first ever date too,
which would be really just, you know, heartwarming.
Helping other animals, yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah, there we go.
Yeah, it's...
Helping all the creatures.
Really just some of the best causes that you could think of
that we've got going right now.
I can just see him sitting back there
like shaking his head like...
I can just see it right now.
That is a Teddles mannerism.
That's true. He does that. Yeah, maybe he's doing that right now or maybe he's doing this one, which you you all do. I'm sure internally he's excited.
We're getting there.
So we are working on getting that filled out. But of course also if you're interested,
we did have Simba here the other day. One of the dogs that has been in the shelter the longest. They're absolutely adorable
precious pets and I would
instantaneously take one if I could.
You could if you tried really hard.
No, I could really not. I have a tiny apartment.
So do I?
So where's your dog?
If I tried really hard, I could.
Okay, what are you waiting for?
What are you waiting for?
I have cats.
I have...
Yes, so that is that discussion.
Thank you very much.
I'm sure there is people...
What are you waiting for?
Nations as we speak?
Right, just push it on to them.
Good tech.
Not as we do.
Yeah, deflect the chat there we go. Do you have pets? No, it's not at all. Yes, why don't you adopt a dog?
Play wow all day anyway. Yeah, exactly. I play wow all day. They're cute. They're really cute. It's nice to have them here
But I'd have to go outside once a day and like walk them
You know, I it's a big step. It would be a big step for me to take and you shouldn't adopt an animal lightly
That's very true. So yeah
It's a big step for you to take to go outside of your house.
Look at Simba!
That's him!
Wow.
He is so cuddly.
What's the dog's name?
Simba.
I thought the... there I'm on it.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Yeah, this is indeed Simba.
They were here I think on dirt?
A couple days ago, yeah.
Yeah.
So Simba has been in the shelter for over a year already.
Oh.
He's a very, very cuddly sweet dog that's looking for a home here at the
sent to Monica animal shelter. He does tricks. He can give paw and give other
paw and sit. He's super cute. He has a little food intolerance. He's on the
Salman diet. That's much better than Kalamazhi. It's really not hard to eat
better than Kalamazhi. And if you want to check it out it's again TL.gg
adopt. They also have Simba Jr. which is a dog that looks very similar to Simba.
maybe you could adopt them both you know get the double Simba are they
unrelated or I think they just look the same one is very young so Simba is
already on the for a big dog on the older-ish side and Simba Juniors like
sub one year I don't know how but somehow I related to that for a big dog
being on the older-ish side already well you should take Simba home with
you also any pet that is adopted during the race world first I will cover
the adoption fee. And if somebody chooses to pick up Simba specifically, I'll make sure
he comes with a nice little care package with like snacks and toys and food because he does
have a food intolerance. So we want to make sure he has a loving home.
Oh, that's very nice. Yeah.
Are we, what are you looking for?
Are you interested?
I got a, there's a hurricane coming to Florida.
That's right. Yeah, I can't have, I can't have dogs, certain types of dogs in my
complex. I think you can do one of those. What? Move. Well, you know, I can move. I would have had the money. Well, got me too. At least you're getting paid for this. I'm here on fun time. That's basically it.
Well, Chad, you can take Simba home.
He would love to have a caring, lovely home.
So we're looking to do just that.
Shout out to IA as well for doing all of that,
to try and get these pads and docks adopted.
All right.
We're back into another poll now after some discussion,
after potentially setting up some of those portal orders
for the second intermission to give us a first draft
of what might look like who's on which side
for those different ad spawns.
Now that we know the two sides are distinct from each other,
something that is not true on the lower difficulties.
Yeah, we heard Max discussing a meeting
about a 10 minute break to set up sides.
Actually does remind me of Razageth a little bit as well.
The Razageth intermission,
you had different ads on the different sides
and that forced you to add some strategy.
Yeah, the red ad and the blue ad were,
you know, one was more healing intensive,
one was more of a shield that needed to get broken.
That was interesting.
I'm impressed with this fight so far.
Yeah.
It looks really good for N-Boss.
I was a little curious on her how deep of the cadence,
changing up phase one, how intense the actual shield
their mission is.
And with the void portal, some phase two,
it makes it feel like almost a different encounter.
It's pretty solid.
I do hope that there is a bit more to phase three.
I wouldn't mind seeing what.
I bet there will be.
Yeah.
I bet phase three is going to be hectic.
I think so as well.
I think there's going to be, when we get to phase three,
the first or second pole that we get there,
there's going to be a wow moment of some guy.
What if Kung gets a sense in the ceiling?
Could be.
Ooh, that'd be very cool.
There's your final boss right there.
I wouldn't be surprised if you have to, like,
if there's a Nova coming in and out,
and you have to get over it in both directions
with, like, a multiple portal setup.
Yeah, I could see that.
That could be fun.
Is there a way that can make the portal debuff you
into the final phase as well?
Yeah, they could do, yeah.
Interesting.
You already do get the little circle that explodes
after a couple seconds at when you go through it,
but putting, like, a vulnerability on you.
Yeah.
Some kind.
Or maybe you set up something where it's, like,
You only can you have to like space out and drink the portal right so I was thinking because the debuff last three minutes
Yeah, the portal so you can take it again in phase three from phase two
There happens somewhat similar mechanics to that like the Sarkarath oppressing war
Removal where it's like oh the more the more you move at once the more damage
It's gonna do so you could do something like that where it's like you got a stacking debuff every time somebody goes through a
Portal and it goes away after one second. You have to like five five five five, okay?
I was just saying in the break that we had that my mom has messaged me right now because she's watching the broadcast
And while I was answering in chat that I would fight your landlords if they have something against dogs like Simba
She also messaged me asking if heroic had already been done. So yes mom heroic has been done
We have done the reclears reset us through
shout out to my mom who's a huge fan of the race world first and
Yeah, we're working on that last boss
looking pretty good for liquid thus far. Yeah a lot of consistent progression
today seeing pretty far into the fight the health threshold best percent not
being the best indicator of where guilds are at progression wise because the
intermission the boss shields which takes 10% of the boss to tell the
breakthrough there's ads in the platform but don't affect the boss health
directly so it's right hard to tell where prog is at but we're making
substantial prog today it's been a lot of progression with a very little
regression it's good to see I'm actually terrified what's happening oh
Oh, they order you another boba.
Oh, you're so sweet.
I was doing my best.
Sorry.
It's a nice job.
See, I dropped things so often.
I always feel so bad about it.
I understand.
Well, try it.
I'm sure it is very good.
I so wish to come on down.
the portal over the table.
It's going to be fine.
Oh, that would have been good.
Imagine if they sabotaged the cup like this.
Can you imagine?
He's turned it everywhere.
That would have been great.
Yeah.
So in case you missed it, before explanation,
we have a whole group in Discord for everybody
here that likes Boba.
And so every time they order, they just put an order in
and then everybody compiles.
And my Boba got broken in the last order.
So they made a round two, so thank you very much.
There you go.
Yeah.
Traca, oh, good.
First temper there.
There's something very nice.
Yeah, it's not your first Boba.
All right.
How's it taste?
Describe taste.
It's very good.
It's my favorite.
Yeah!
Very good.
Not in here.
Good.
Yeah, there you go.
Great.
Very nice.
Boba and the US taste better than in Germany.
That's true.
Most things that's true for, yeah.
I know.
I guess anything, yeah.
We've perfected our culinary creations like French fries, pizza, burgers, all originating
right here in the USA.
That's right.
Yes.
Right.
The burrito.
Yes.
The mustard rice, taco, the cake.
Can we go back to Ancerac?
Thank you, production.
Buffalo wing.
Oh no!
Yeah, that was my boba on the floor there.
Now are you sure that they didn't just take that off the floor and then put
it back in a new cup. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I do see there's some garbage in the bottom
of your cup there. Stop calling my food garbage. It looks like there's some debris at the bottom
of the cup. No, no, it's intended. It's tapioca. I can't be intended. There's no way.
I wouldn't be comfortable. I wouldn't be confident. He looks so happy. I'm just
yawning. I enjoy the awkward silence. It's okay. There we go. That's great.
Thank you so much.
Thank you, thanks to Aya.
Yeah, I was thanking Aya.
Yeah, I liked how they tried to make it work by giving you one of somebody else's Boba, but then it had fruit as in it so you couldn't have it.
Well, that was his, right? You ordered one.
No, that was yours.
No, that's mine.
You ordered that? Yeah, he ordered it.
I said Aya, let me try one. She said pick one you want. I don't know if I can make it. I picked the purple one.
Okay.
Yeah, I think I'll drink about just that much and that'll be okay.
Okay, I see it had a flavor you would best describe as interesting. So taro is like your sweet sweet yam kind of thing
Right? Yeah, they kind of swear of yams. Mm-hmm. You know what again this it's that orange root thing
It's a root here. Yeah, it's a cow animal
That's a yak actually
Is that food my food eats? Yeah
Yes
food by food it's exactly I see what is happening you just confused yeah I'm with
yak well it was for a show for sure yeah you're right right it was for the show
of course wait right this week he was hand the best but food my food eats again
at the meaning kind of way looking right directly into my eyes yep close enough
But yeah, taro is like a sweet yam kind of thing.
They don't have those in Florida.
It's like an Asian sweet potato if you want to be really weird about it.
I actually love sweet potato fries. Those go crazy.
I don't like the fries.
It's tough. There's so many different types of fries and they're all so good.
Just the shoestring fries, the curly fries, the waffle fries, the sweet potato fries.
You have to pick a favorite and then sometimes just the good old original fries as well.
You guys prefer the small crunchy one or the like Belgian cut fries?
Oh, I love the thick cut fries as well. Yeah, those are good.
The shoestring fries. The very stringy ones can be good.
They can't hold sauce well. I don't like them.
It's a shoestring.
Yeah, they're ones that are really narrow.
Like a shoestring. Yeah.
They can't hold sauce well. I don't think we call it that.
Well yeah, obviously you can fear your food pests.
It's okay. It's fine.
Yeah.
Okay. Well, moving on.
back to answer act
uh... looks like the if you get something out
we heard it in that monster energy listening that max was saying only needs
a couple of minutes that's what i said he was right thing if i'm not mistaken
uh... for a couple of tries and hopefully they have it now figured out
hoping to see their time
that ad phase because there's a lot of changes
right max mentioned he wanted to sort of like
change groups around a little bit to have
side in the mission that has the two spiders coming down being more caster friendly or caster I guess
stacked you can have those range kicks compared to melee side probably having both. Also I think it's
just hard to hit them as melee. Yeah exactly. I'm sure you're getting gripped off that edge because
they are on the inside rather than outside edge. Favoring those ranged damage profiles and kicks
compared to melee and yeah we'll see if portal swaps will dictate or I guess the ads that
might exist in the third platform will dictate when you want to swap portals which I think
that might be the case that would make phase three a lot more in depth actually than it already
is so we'll see when we get back there but in the meantime we're back in we're
back wiping in phase one actually I'll backtrack there you can't call it a
jinx that didn't even get too far into talking about it but it's all right a
little bit of a bit of relearn never hurt anybody it's okay it feels like
we're a lot more than 55 pulls into this fight too it does feel like more
frog has been made than that I think that's cuz the first phase is so
incredibly hard it feels much more rewarding or as other bosses you
You need to get through the first phase a couple of times until you feel like you're making progress, so yeah.
I feel like we've also seen a lot of fights in Silkencourt, Nexus Princess, where it's these fast, rapid, just fast paced pulls, somebody died, reset, died fast, died fast.
They're getting pretty consistent in phase one, seeing these two to three minute pulls pretty, pretty... quite often.
back in a sense reaching that shield a good bit so yeah it feels like we're in
like the hundred pole range but honestly I still think even with that being the
case once you see phase three I assume it's gonna be a lot tougher a lot tougher
than it is on heroic you're probably looking at 200 pole range which if
that's the case I could see it probably ending Friday I think Friday's still
safe choice they're seeing frog I think Friday too it obviously pending how
crazy p3 goes but right what's your guys's take on mythic face any I any
I don't think so. I like it. I don't think so no instead of getting yeeted back to the third platform of giant web
Opens up and you need to play the game of is this path safe. I just feel like the three Queen answer
Rack on heroic has enough
Enough potential to turn into a full
Phase that it doesn't need any more than that now could there be something like the Jailer where you finish a full phase and
And then the boss like shields up and heals up and you do some more maybe well, what happens to money insurance?
In the lore, I don't know
You guys know she gets she like
Donut and and falls back down to the P1 platform right well sure, but she doesn't die no in the lore
She gets stabbed by a dagger by her daughter
Yeah, there's a quest line or afterwards where she lives through it. Ah, she's the final boss
Maybe you just send then she helps you fight the boss in the last phase.
It'll be fun.
Jack wasn't moving to that in the first cast, but he's a lore guy, apparently, and not
as good.
It would be cool if we had like a Xalatath phase on Mythic for every boss in this expansion.
That'd be very cool.
You know, like, just like you got to keep fighting her for a little bit, and on Antrarch
Mythic you take her from 100 to 80, and then like the next grade we take her from
80 to 60, and then like by midnight we actually fight her proper.
That'd be cool.
That could be cool.
Yeah.
React is here, Blizzard.
those casters that don't play the story yeah I only play the bosses my bad I
don't watch the cutscene until I kill it on mythic I that's a I save that yeah
that's good yeah I'm gonna instill that actually in my I'm gonna do that okay
I'm gonna do that yeah so you're still waiting to see what happens for like the
jailer and stuff yeah I haven't seen Catherine Anthony oh yeah yeah go back
I can farm it soon. Shoot.
Oh yeah, Vermornia.
Oh my god.
He was applying that I haven't killed anything on Mythic.
Yeah, that was the...
Oh. That was the J.
Yeah, that was... I was distracted.
That's okay. I was drinking my boba.
Man, did you guys kill Brutus last night, by the way?
3%.
Oh my god.
Trashy Strak.
I'm close.
Yeah.
Very close, though.
Are you going back in today, Dratnos?
Yeah, we got some heroic activity to do.
Our frost death knights away for two days,
so that's gonna hurt Brutus a little bit.
All good though Scott and Atlas are down though on this pole. That's not all good though
Kind of think you just
Jump it. I think you like the new TV. You have no better rest is to be able to yeah
The problem is you can't live liquefying feast. Yips is about to die to that overlap here in a second unless there's some heroic bubble taunt activity
Maybe there is they've been practicing a lot of one tanking. So yeah
I've gotten pretty good at that could be the proof of concept for the one tank here
Or maybe there's a week or they want to test out the the gateway take week or
Here goes Yipz though, going to try and live the overlap.
Yep, having that Nova coming in here, there's one pop too.
We gotta go fast in these last two pops.
Three and four barely gets across.
That problem now, we had two players dead.
This damage and the raid's gonna hurt.
Okay.
Area bad with the six stacks.
All right, somehow Yipz has survived
as the solo tank to this point.
Unfortunately, Malarkas has reached it.
If not, the rest of the raid's starting to explode as well.
And I think that they are all gonna get crunched
under the middle of the boss here.
Yeah.
It just snowballed so fast that one player dying.
That debuff just hurts so bad at extra stacks,
compared to even four.
Oh, well, we go again.
All right.
Would their group changes in the Intermission Effect anything
in phase one, Dretnos?
I don't think so.
It shouldn't too much know which person is going up
to which side in phase two doesn't change anything about
P1 really.
What would change things is if they start changing their
classes based on P2, then they'll
have to relearn how that works in P1, which is still
a very hard phase.
And so if you want somebody who's like, oh, I do really good three targets to these floating
spiders on the second platform, but then maybe they don't have a good way to break themselves
out of a silken tomb, so maybe you're making P1 harder.
Yeah, that's fair.
Rez has come out.
67% on that last bullet.
A couple of people dead.
Making it to the intermission.
Again, that boss percent, we expect to not improve much until it takes a big jump
at some point when they reach P3,
I think that is today.
I think that's after day.
I think that's today as well.
I think so.
Pending there is no crazy mythic phase after phase two.
And pending that that last platform
is in the range of what we expect.
Right.
I'm pretty sure phase three is.
I think the way this is gonna go,
we'll see phase three tonight,
probably after dinner, like Ratana said.
I think we'll see it,
we won't see all of the phase at all,
But I think we'll see the remainder of that phase probably tomorrow evening and then we're gonna see the panic set in if
Oh, we got a fine 30% in this boss health wise
Or maybe not 30 but a good bit
I think this is gonna be a N'zoth kind of fight where they'll see the whole fight and then realize
Oh the boss dies at 25 like you know it goes off we thought right. Oh, it doesn't it's literally zero
We got to find 20% more DPS. I have to go back in and try and find extra damage allocation on the boss in phase one
before the shield and then maybe a bit more CD relevancy for like trio funnel damage in phase three because
His boss that we said does not push out of phase one for a health percent. It's duration base
So if you have a lot more damage, we pushed the boss at 27% last night at a phase one on normal
So you can push the boss much lower. The question is how long it's possible to be?
You have two and a half minutes to do as much damage as you want
But looking at that phase one, there's a lot going on there that just makes it harder
You're being yeeted into the air, you have to run out, and while Deirdre's still trying
to play as if it is a kill-pull, Max was talking about learning bad habits if they play too
safe.
They're also very worried about living, so a lot of attention goes there rather than
min-maxing on some of these gear and DPS decisions.
Well, gear not, but DPS decisions.
So I'm pretty sure we can conjure more damage.
At least for now.
Yeah, there is that tradeoff between playing safe and playing for damage, and ultimately
what they need to do is they need to learn how to play for damage while also not dying.
But I think early on in progression you want to start airing on the side of danger or
of safety.
And then over time you start taking more risks, but one thing that I was talking with Max
about was that these good players, like the best players in the world, they just
have this instinct to go for it, right, and to maximize their damage.
And then they also just find a way to live, like you look at people like fired up and he's just always blasting
He's always maximizing his damage from pull one. That is not something that he's he's never playing scared
So something Max explained yesterday using Lords of Dread as an example
That was a boss where you needed to kill the boss in the in rage
Yeah, and what they had their melee stew was play safe just to see the fight for the longest
But because they did that for a rather long time
They learned a bad habit of playing too safe right so that then when they needed to be greedy, which as a melee on this fight
It was very hectic
They had to relearn the entire fight and he was saying that that is something you're trying to avoid because it costs extra time
Which is also why you're not seeing them kind of put the froths anywhere just to see the intermission
That was a question yesterday night
So now we have the intermission and we know that the space gets closed
So that is what they're doing with it and trying to play as close to how a kill pole should look as they can
To kind of lock in that muscle memory that feeling of oh, I'm gonna be here and then there and then that
The way that they want it to be right and damage just comes naturally with more poles to more time more poles
You get more comfortable with reps in the boss you find certain areas
We can squeeze in one extra cast of
X spell and begin extra cool down window at a tiny point here a little earlier
which speaks out more boss damage. So it'll come together in Ashkali.
We saw it on Kivesa where that best push was 34% then 33, then 32.
Siliconcourt, to a similar extent, also came together where the bosses were just lower and lower every single pull.
But at a certain point where it's like, okay, yeah, we need to go back to the drawing board if that happens on this fight,
and, you know, maybe try and move some Kulans around here and there.
But we're not at that point yet. But you still can optimize damage along the way of learning.
We're only 50 pulls into this boss. And the first one here or so are a mess anyways, right?
We're not that far into the same phase one like like you'll see phase one the most out of this fight
Oh, yeah similar to sarcasm right like phase almost the hardest part of that fight
Maybe phase three was tough at certain points, too, but you saw that phase the most as well though, so
Come on John any boss you're gonna see phase one the most because I was gonna say that's kind of logical
But you're becoming more accustomed to the hardest phase the earliest right you see what I'm saying
I know this was like over your head right nose. I know the actual question
Do you think face one is the hardest face of this box?
Hmm, I bet face three is gonna be harder.
I think face three is gonna be harder.
Face one looks insane already.
The Sarkaroth comparison is apt, I think.
Yeah, I think so too.
We'll have to see that, of course.
Anything we say about P3, we love to do.
The first speculation.
Yeah, we're just guessing.
Based on the Dungeon Journal and Vibes alone,
you decide what's what.
Vibes have been immaculate so far.
Actually, all race, they've been doing
a really good job of keeping the Vibes up.
Although there hasn't been anything that has challenged the vibe too much yet.
There hasn't been a boss that's been super buggy.
Maintenances have gone a little bit long, but not too long.
There hasn't been a day of awful progression yet.
So far today, even we've been making nice progs.
Kevin, this might have been a little taxing towards the end.
Yeah, it was good that they kept the mental nice on that fight.
But at least it wasn't like any other guild was having an easier time with that boss.
That can be where it's really challenging for your mental.
You know, if you're 300 bowls into a boss, then another guild is killed in 50.
Yeah, exactly. Even keeping this Reekly are pretty clean for most parts.
Reekly was great.
Yeah, that's a huge plus for the mentality of the guild, right?
Not spending... I'm not trying to, you know, but not spending more time than you need on Kaivesa
or killing Soap & Core after a few hours, coming in and clearing the raid fast,
knowing you're already sort of ahead and maintaining that lead is really big for Morell.
Right.
So very good to see.
Was it Thursday, dropping us where we had Max here, and he was saying,
Oh, eventually around this time of the race is where you'll wake up behind the bed ahead
Yeah, I still feel like that hasn't happened yet
There was one day where it did happen on the thing kind of as a result and yeah
I was still can where they you know you woke up and and you saw liquid number two on the coin base leaderboard
Maybe even number three actually there was that was where they went dark, right?
Which so there was one where it was legitimately they they yeah
Yeah, it was legitimate, but also they went dark
But yeah, it didn't happen today on Queen Ancerak.
I don't know if it'll happen tomorrow.
I mean, again, we have this weird thing on Queen Ancerak
where the percent is a little bit fake, too.
Either Liquid or Acre could probably,
if they really tried to,
focus a pull on just doing as much damage
as possible and then milking at the end
of the intermission rather than spreading to your sides
and maybe you could get it down to 63
or something like that, but that pull
would be less well suited to actually progressing,
which is what we're looking at right now
Doing as much possible in that intermission and in that second phase. Yeah, very much so okay a couple people dead
Unfortunately right as we enter intermission here for now on the floor
That's gonna lead to some more deaths as well
Yeah, there's really not much point in continuing it here
They're not gonna have the damage to break that shield with anything close to a large amount of the rain alive
They're gonna let this boss devour them and try again that pull was looking pretty good up until
10 seconds before this intermission when we saw our first few deaths and that leads to a domino effect on this fight
Yeah, it's fire all so fast in this fight pun not intended, but it does fire all spider
Yeah, I got it. Yeah, well pun not intended because it wasn't there
Did we get further on our charity goal, I'm just asking for a friend, you know
If needed be yeah, we were so close 1970 believes what we were it before right around there. We could yeah
Try to get down on the screen there
It's equally as important for Simba as it is for Teddles in his date with Alotath at the time
I would rather help Simba and Teddles, but sure we can help both
Helping two animals at once. It's very nice. We do have a question from chat
That's how are they supposed to do this a fit healer. What do you guys think about the I mean
They've made it through the first phase without with the four healers. Yeah, I feel like you're probably gonna need the damage
I don't think the fifth you if anything if you told me they didn't play four healers
I would guess that's they had to three heal it rather than rather than five
Yeah, I don't think they're really dying to a lack of HPS or anything at this point
They're like they're dying to like I mean mistakes it but not like yeah
By avoidable damage rather unavoidable damn like progression mistakes seeing the portal for the first time going that second platform
the first time, we had no idea spiders would ascend from the ceiling, right?
This progression looks like we're not dying to raw, a lack of raw HPS, it's
just mechanical overlaps, or things you haven't seen before, some mistakes being
made. But the more they pull that phase, the better we'll get at it. Yeah, I
agree that if they change healing comp, it would likely be three instead of four,
and not five instead of four. For the same reason, just to kind of
elaborate a little bit more on that. If you're looking at that intermission
where we're currently using that bloodlust. If you fire feel that, I don't think it becomes
doable without the lust. And then also in the ad phase, the one time we came up to that second
platform, we were way behind on damage there as well. So if you had another healer there,
it also becomes weird with the two sides, because then one side has three healers and
the other has two, and you're like, what is this extra thing?
You could swap over though. If there's one side that's more healing intense in
the second platform and then one side is more healing times on the third platform maybe you're
doing some cool stuff there. I just think this boss looking at the previous bosses this boss is
going to be tuned tightly I don't think there has been an end boss. There hasn't been an end boss
that's been five-yield since I think G'Hoon maybe was. It's been a long time.
Is it like a five-yield? I think so I think I remember BFA went like five-yield.
See I played Tealier on G'Hoon and I don't even remember. What about Oonot? Is that four?
Uh, Unad I thought was 3 maybe.
I also thought that was less.
And then J9 I thought was 4.
And then Azshara was 2.
Azshara was 3.
Notably 2.
3 for most regular guild split.
Somebody just said Jailor.
Was Jailor 5 healed?
That doesn't sound right.
I don't know for sure anymore.
Maybe it was later on.
Maybe.
I don't know.
Hmm.
Damage check was very tight on that boss.
See, sometimes what the Race to World first kill runs, and then the guilds that come after that run differs, and sometimes by a lot, so...
That's very true. And often there are actually guilds who will hurt themselves by trying to copy what the Race to World first guilds did, with less gear or after nerfs, when you could actually get a lot farther by just playing a safer strategy now that you have more gear, or now the boss has been nerfed.
Kai Vezza, I think would be a great example of that boss if he would try to one tank that pass basically next week and the week after.
Yeah, I think that is a fantastic example
There have been several bosses as well where you could just add an extra healer
It doesn't hurt and healing is the problem
You know you have more than enough damage with extra resets worth of gear
Did you note that in phase one? She's super fast for some reason. Yeah, like I think are they
Six legs for some reason and somehow she's incredibly fast
Maybe there was some internal testing they did where kiting the boss around what do you think it's rat?
And so they're just like yeah, there's like no we're not gonna let people do that
Give her the zoomies. Yeah, I mean she's got six legs
So she should be three times faster than a human wide you got six but you but she should be
Averagely slower than most spiders because fighters have eight legs and somehow wild spiders only have six
Which is why the rockin phobia mode works. She's made for speed
She's built for speed. Yeah, she's got that dumpy for speed. She's got a 300 horsepower engine
There we go, very good.
I was walking the fine line, I like it here.
Oh man, I was hoping we'd see the end of phase 2 by the end of this shift.
I think we'll see it probably next shift.
I think you're likely correct as we are nearing the end of this one.
I like how Dresden walks the fine line always.
I think you are likely correct, possibly correct, most likely.
There is a definitive...
Yeah, I've never gotten clipped being confident about something I'll be wrong about.
Never a definitive statement, just like Xyro, plays both sides of the fence.
Exactly, I'm playing both sides, I was coming on top.
Alright.
Well, here's another poll.
Coming on in, and to answer some questions, just come up every now and then and chat.
The bottom bar that you are seeing below the HP on our L-frame is her energy.
Ah.
So, if you're looking at...
It's Venenovo when it fills up.
For energy-based casts like that Venenova,
then you will know when that happens based on the energy bar,
rather than needing to look for boss timers.
Usually, once the energy bar on a boss fills up,
that's a pretty important mechanic.
So that's why we put that there.
They do that.
Blizzard does this for bosses to help you see when certain.
Basically, they come up with a crucial mechanic,
and then they make the boss's energy bar
correspond to a timer on that mechanic.
Helps you if you're not using boss mods,
or even if you are, it can be a nice way to track those sorts of mechanics.
I really like that. I think that's great.
I feel like this raid tier, not rehashing too much into previous bosses, but as far as the private wars are concerned,
we actually did it pretty well this tier.
The only boss, Brute Twister does require another weak aura.
Whenever you have three worms out that all need to be interrupted, you do need an interrupt.
interrupts, sure, coordinating week aura, which is a coordination check, but it's the fifth
boss on Mythic, you know, guilds that reach that point tend to be able to set up that
sort of thing.
I was going to say, I don't think an interrupt tracker is a bad week aura.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if in a few weeks or months they slow that cast down
or something to help guilds that are a little bit coordinated to be able to do as well.
But like, when we talk about private auras, we're usually looking at auras that do
the fight for you.
Yeah.
stuff like the Jailer one where you just basically had a
Nafsat on your screen telling you exactly where to be when yeah, so that is the kind of we go as that
Lizard is trying to circumvent with these private oras, and I think this rate in particular
They did a great job of that. Yeah, I had some
This one I love it perfectly where it should be yeah, I indeed agree I
agree
The waves and Russian I'm being a private war for example very easy to tell so we're gonna stir
Yeah, pretty twisted eggs were initially a private war
But that would have been bad. Yeah, it was very bad because we would have been pressing a macro and having a weak core
I do it exactly the same way except with a macro breast that is never right
Yeah, I think they realized that and made a good they did so overall
It's been a very good tier for private war us and hopefully that continues. Oh
Sketchy this is the fourth set days or the fourth that rather would you lose days here here?
We have a res for him though, but we're gonna have probably an extra stack on this damage coming in.
Double AMC thrown down here, everybody does live through this.
We can get Daisy up, actually, as long as we live here, yep, he's up now.
Alright.
Alright.
Yep, plus being committed on this intermission shield here, we do indeed see the whole race being gripped in for that first drop of webs.
And something that players have been, or chatters have been asking for as well.
That big bar you're currently seeing at the top of Yip's Strain, that is the shield that we're trying to burst through.
one-stop blue bar is, um,
Plenished? Is that a word? Plenished? Not plenished?
Depleted. Depleted, yeah. Yeah, then, uh, they're gonna be pushing into face.
You'll get one more window to do a little bit of damage before she goes immune again, right now, right here,
and then she will go up into the air.
You cannot do damage to her anymore. Your heart locked at the percentage that you go to,
and we're gonna be getting a look at the phases. Income the portals, and you're always switching.
Tanks for tanks healer for healer DPS for DPS. They go out. They move to the side
It dispelled this one's a little close to the portal and if we don't have to use this next portal
Which I think they're trying to beat this portal
So I like that before the portal nice got a death comes in from yips
Oh, that was care. I have to die before the portal destabilizes and kills them all
Unfortunately. Oh wow. Do not go barely lands on the platform
We are into the first platform now
This is basically the same as the lower difficulties except there is that portal up on the side our second
second set of players now making that swap. A dispel lands in the very middle of the room.
That is not great. It looks like the player died with that dot on them. That's what happens
after you take the portal. You get a dot that needs to be dispelled, but leaves behind that
puddle when it is. Now we are starting to have more players die.
I think there might have been a portal going off from this other room.
May well have been. Now the enemies have snapped to this side. Whenever they do
that they also got a massive damage buff so not at all survivable THD big smile
though yeah smile he's definitely having fun yeah big smile for THD not as
biggest smile definitely content not yet not the furthest they've gone those far
we have seen that platform after that already for split second we know what's
waiting behind there, but they are getting towards this closer and closer,
so looking pretty good here for Team Liquid as they kind of re...
Now there's a big smile.
The midpoint of the day. Yeah, they're having fun.
I wonder what they're saying.
Alright, we swap over to Scott's POV.
He does have a res pending,
but he must be looking at something on another monitor right now.
So strategy sessions continue here for Team Liquid.
Yeah, possibly.
It looked like with those two deaths heading into that intermission there,
The Militite did fall a bit far behind.
I think that they did that to a portal swap.
I guess a portal being missed there.
The portals are going to be so sketchy here.
Well, something that's not sketchy,
but a cost for celebration is that we have
reached a charity goal.
Thank you so much for donating
for the Santa Monica Animal Shelter.
All of that money goes to helping
lots and lots of sweet animals and the shelter,
keeping their operations up. They do a lot of catch, neutering, release as well. So very,
very important work that is being done by them. And that also means...
Teddolls.
Teddolls! Buckle up!
Wowee.
Do you think we should prepare him for that date? I don't know if we can let him go in
there on his own.
Can we go buy some deodorant or something?
Some mint?
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah.
That was a clean individual. I think he's fine.
But you can never be too sure with these sort of things. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Yes. We can always over prepare
He's in chat saying OMG Zalatath my date. We're so back. Whoa nice
Someone's celebrating. I I'm not sure when or how this is happening, but I'm pretty sure we locked in that titles would be doing it so
the excitement
I'm personally very excited that that's a lot of money that's going to a great cause
but yeah well we'll see how I feel about about the pastures that happen.
Pastures are so mean to each other, sad face.
You don't know how mean they are to me.
Let me explain to you how long do you have.
I am the lightning rod, alright?
It's okay.
I take it in stride.
I think I'm going to strike.
Yeah, okay, all right.
Anything mean you want to say to me, Dredna?
No, I never said anything.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You know, our good friends.
We're buddies.
I value our friendship.
Thank you.
I do, too.
And you know what else I value?
What?
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As our charity partners,
Thank you guys so much for this shift. It's been a lot of fun
We have the next cast or trio coming up in a little bit
And we'll be going to a monster energy listen in while we're waiting for this swap. So see you in a little bit
Holy shit to divas
The groups have changed Bart Lincoln it welcome to Redside Exile
Can you update it so it has like the start of P2 timer?
Yeah, that definitely unit, right? That's this your...
What do you mean by end of shield?
Like I mean it would work with end of shield but that doesn't work with the other timers because those are dynamic right?
You can make it based on the first thing that's cast on the next platform probably.
Select the house cast or something.
Whatever that's called.
The OUSD cast.
I'm pretty sure we smoke the intermission check without loss by the way
Yeah, let's see the first platform
You have to change portal assignments for me
Intelligent knows it's just a cut everything everything has already I linked it
uh
days are in days are on skull and exiles on x days are just the third portal on
uh skull and exiles the fifth portal on x
Uh, also, I think we need is there a way to like do you want people to macro call for externals when they have
Because like it's not gonna it's gonna ask for externals from across the room, isn't it?
I think we should
How do we do that? What's our method for heart assigning?
They are static yet. Well, they're static unless someone's dead.
I mean, depending on timing, it might not even be bad to have one group go early.
like if we're gonna be after two people go anyways by three seconds you guys will send one group earlier, I guess yeah
We could I just want to see this. Let's see
Maybe multiple people dead. Well, let's do our damage is like
Hey boomies or an echo go. They both go with less than a second, which is perfect
And you're supposed to take the problem. I'm getting it, but I'm also getting both of it, so I think me ending up at two there
Right, we need to do two
How do we deal with that?
Thank you. Thank you. Just let the yes, I take it early. I think the first person changes to stop platform
That's there in all my CDs as well. So it changes, right? You don't always
Yeah, is it
I think it's the same
That's easy, okay, then I just need that that's fine. That's fine. I can easily just change the order
We just need someone who can do it during the suck. It's probably like demoner, right?
You like fell Russian or that and stop the suck
Yeah, yeah, I'll do that. I'm also my CD is there. So yeah, yes, I'm on the tracks. I am moving check one more time
Sorry, I might have to be put one set later, too. I don't know if I can get my kick
that early
I
We are not getting free platform three portals on the first platform unless we are Omega dead
Okay, I think you want to cause it's not the food. Yeah, but yeah, I also think you want to consider though
Like who you're putting on that fourth and fifth row right now because that's gonna be people during the break of the shield train
That is correct
Mark is popping cool on sir portal pop cool nuns
So they just for killers there
I don't think he'll listen to us through okay, so someone who doesn't have CDs on that second ad then that is also a
I think it's wrong to say you know all the ever since he does through the gift
We don't you would go first or last
But if we don't
That's just double stasis. You're not gonna do any healing heat. They're gonna do all the healing
Not really
You will do all the healing the tiny got beat by a Seattle priest in the splits
Jesus
We had it for a long time, but that one was...
Yeah.
That was...
He's gonna blow you the fuck up, buddy.
He's gonna hit all the kings.
But if we don't break the silver, why would he PS-fing, and they can't really do anything?
Yeah, I thought we're not gonna break it.
But we're gonna break camp.
Yeah.
But I think, like...
Like, it's just gonna add, let's just say, doing the dispels, too.
It's like...
I think they sent the healers to us.
The most recent list updated?
Yep.
Okay, so I guarantee to get clungi versus on the second platform so there's shaggy need to
Because you don't have a personal
We're using externals on the first platform because our personals are down from P P1 intermission that they should probably be up on the second platform
And so everyone will hope that goes now as well for the disc. Everything has been updated. I think we were good to go
Everything has been changed. We've solved the shack. It's just during that rest on that platform
You have to like just you take the portal during or like right after it and it will actually cancel the suck
Yeah, that's fun. All set is losing Devo
That's probably fine, right?
I mean maybe it's not actually I mean I can't keep you I could have Driny and you change the same time
And then the healers are all set. It's gonna happen. Yeah
the reason I don't have any changing over there is because I want range to be over there for those ads.
That's a very little HP for everybody.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
They've got a manageable amount.
It's definitely hard. We're going to have to fucking strap in, but I think we could do it.
I'm hungry. I'm hungry.
The range dance?
No, no, no, no, no. All that's not a very bone.
We can barely make it if we try that side. I don't think I'm sure and they're gonna love it
They there's already enough difficulty in the phase just with the portals by the way
I think we can send like three people platform and still make it like
The check we don't need to have two on the first platform. We could send three that's fine
Your mark is right though. He if we send three in the first platform his kick won't be up
We also just don't have enough range to do that, but we also don't need three kicks on the fucking
Are you saying like sending three people per platform?
Well, I mean if we send one before P2, three on every platform adds up, right?
Yeah, I would just say like if you can avoid sending people over, you'll get less despicable,
send less free damage, you want to also as few as you can.
Yeah, of course, I just mean like, yeah.
The last one shouldn't need free, is it just gonna be without keys or what?
Or should this be?
Yeah, I guess.
I feel like there's gonna be chamber acolytes on that one because like why why would they only be on one side in the whole mission, you know?
Gonna be silk and colt and roll on each son.
There's gonna be six acolytes.
We are good to pull the boss.
You can be a gargoyle.
We go to the lot, yeah, of missing gargoyle from the fucking stone region general.
He's gonna show up.
And fast spawns acolytes.
Four, three, two, one.
I have something to bring up to the melee after this and start. Reactive?
What's up, Stake? Yo, what's up, dawg? All gone, bro.
Just the most normal mage movement right there. Watch waves, waves, waves.
Hey, Lugify here. Fucking native workers, man.
Count to 10 and breathe. What does this count to 10 bit?
It lets you reset mentally. It lets you reset lines.
Like, Drenny's mad right now, so he's gonna reset.
Trying to stood up.
Good buddy, I get to read my mind every time I'm first up on the wall.
Cause I do time to set footages.
He's gone, incident.
Been counting yet?
Hey, lines here.
Lines now.
All in melee.
Holy shit.
Good.
This is the wombo combo.
Well, not really.
This is the hard dodge.
Nice.
Okay.
Lines are in three seconds.
Dodge.
Waves, waves, and lines now.
Dodge lines.
Ligify is in three, two, one, now.
It's so much easier than we solved that.
Get under, get under, get under, get under, get under.
Watch lines, sorry that was a late call.
Nice.
You see I haven't gotten one?
That was a shut down.
If you have gotten one, get the left.
They're coming out now.
And then we're getting rooted soon.
Getting rooted in three, two, one now.
Watch your HP, you can external the far people.
Dodge lines, lines are spawning,
lines, lines, lines, getting your soak.
And pop star
Orange
Dynan nice dodging we can res Riku after we can res Evie actually
Is Evie is Evie is Evie is Evie
It's gonna hit pretty hard no rally though. Okay, nice
Yeah, okay
Walkways we haven't lost it we should lost we have a dead DPS for
We beat it without loss, but yeah, okay, here we go, uh, rest soon. Second suck to
Oh no
They they haven't hot-picked that yet, but if you've seen it, yeah, they haven't mentioned that they hot-picked it
Go to your side you the first
It's Renako he's already assigned.
There's only me and Renako.
Yeah, I'm looking fine.
Just keep doing it.
Do you see the gate, boys? Do you see the gate?
I saw your son in the gate.
Everybody in. Everybody in.
I hope they get good luck.
Is that intended? Two people can take the same beat?
Yeah, for the double debuff.
He can put everybody in the same spot.
I thought he just disappeared as soon as something happened.
No, I just know it's that trail.
It's like a respawn to pretend someone takes it.
How did we lose I mean, I was just
Hello and welcome back to the team liquid race to world first year the alien aware training facility huge
Thank you to our presenting sponsor in Coinbase secret lab monster energy Honda alienware radar IO
Wowhead Warcraft Logs and Dungeon Dojo as well as our charity partner in the Santa Monica
Anvil Shelter as we just hit our
$20,000
Goal
And it's gonna be a date with Zalatas. Hello everyone. I'm Jack joined by Zyro and Teddles
I get to go on a date with Zalatath later and I am stoked. This is great
I have a button-up shirt prepared. This is gonna be awesome. I gotta make the most of my opportunity here
That's right in the second that we found out tells jumps up into the room and says I got a change like
crazy his hands waving
Arms and then I actually spilled water on my shirt, but I'm sure it'll drive before if not I have a spare
Okay, I'll dress you up. It certainly will not be too long for you. Definitely won't look like my dad gave me this shirt
But I'm happy to be here for you son. All right. I'm happy to be here for you
Listen, I had to do that growing up. I had to wear like one of my dad's shirts one time.
Yeah, you have to wear your dad's.
Yeah, but I'm 27.
Uh, yes, actually. I had to wear my dad's tie as well. It's a very, very long one.
Not for a date though, but some other formal event we had.
Jack, I think you forgot one of the sponsors.
Hmm.
The World of Warcraft in-game store for sponsoring the raid's race change to Nome.
As we've seen, the entire raid has changed to Nome for the racial escape artist,
which allows you to break out of those tendril routes.
It's a nice price to pay though, since you can break out of those snares and then the
only real price is the webs that are basically going to be there anyway.
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
I mean, it makes sense.
It makes it so you don't have to worry too much about AOE.
And also, we've seen that there's overlaps that just kind of coincide with other mechanics
on Mythic that make it extremely difficult to deal with if you actually have to break
them out.
So it makes perfect sense.
I have to do it.
That's right.
It wouldn't be the first time you had a race change in Boston counter, huh?
There's the Troll one on Jaina.
Yep.
Goblin on kill Jaden, that's a nice swap as well, that was the official swapping.
It's happened multiple different times over the years, so it's no surprise to see it happen once again.
Interestingly enough, there was some nerfs coming in through our other partner, Wowhead,
about the non-evoker, direct your glide getting nerfs coming into it.
What do they do?
They're making the glide a little bit worse, so I assume that it's going to be similar to just regular run speed or something,
but we'll have to see on the PTR
when that sort of comes into the process.
Of course, the guild is still polling,
so we're not going to miss a second of it.
But first, let's take a quick look at the replay
of their highest progression pull yet.
That's something.
Yeah.
So, they were actually struggling
to get through this shield right here
to be able to break into the intermission.
This is a 700 million health shield,
so it was rather large.
You know, there was a lot of their room
was covered at various points, but then now they have to be able to kill off these adds
and be able to break through them. And then they're going to be jumping from platform
to platform. And the adds on the other platforms have a shield as well. That shield, not as
steep as the 700 million one that allows them to go into the mission. This shield is
only 70 million.
It's important to mention though that the timer to break that shield starts the
second you finish that first intermission. The second the shield on the boss breaks,
You can see those HP bars for the shield are already active, casting that spell that if
it goes off, it wipes you.
You only have 80 seconds, I believe, on Mythic to break it on Herok, it was more like 90,
so you have to get through this platform, kill off both adds.
Make sure you're not dropping webs in the wrong spots, and somehow get through both
of these adds, oh go up the platform, don't have anybody die to aggro on the spider
lings, then break the shield, and that's kind of the progression point we're at.
platforms on Mythicar proven to be a pretty difficult mechanic for the players to get through.
Yeah, and as a result you may not see as much in terms of the boss percentage moving that much,
but we're still making a great deal of progress on the overall encounter. It's gonna be just a bit
more incremental for step-by-step getting through some of these various platforms and the huge
amount of damage, and a lot of it really starts with having a very clean phase one.
Yep, and they've been iterated on their positioning a little bit throughout the phase,
But the main thing that's been the consistency issue for them has been really just kind of the popping of these pools that the amount of
consecutive damage that goes out on different groups of players over the course of the phase when you have to split up into more and more
groups of fewer and fewer players has been causing them issues and also when you have to get four groups over that venom nova instead of just two of
Them it's a little harder to space out those pops
So as they get further into the phase and try to keep their positioning very very tight
So they have more room to move around in the intermission
We'll see if they stay consistent with their movement.
Also they're using a lot of externals, freedoms to make sure players get broken out of the
webs.
Players that can't race change to gnome, and there's a lot of extra individual responsibility
on certain players in the raid.
I remember last night Max was talking about how he had yips marking places to go, giving
somebody the Tigers less so they wouldn't get rooted and then doing a whole bunch
of other things all at the same time, and that was causing them progression problems
where once they realized they should have someone else mark there, just take one
thing off your plate to make your job more consistent, we can make this whole phase more
consistent by doing that for people that are just overloaded.
Yeah, and one of the things I enjoy the most is really seeing how they have, there's a
lot of micro that goes into a phase like this, and to do it consistently with the
ever-ramping amounts of damage.
You can see just how low everybody gets, but the follow-up damage isn't too heavy.
Usually it's very bursty in nature with a pretty light amount of rock damage, and
And so once they're surviving those instant hits, usually they're going to be safe for
the next 5-10 seconds until the next mechanic goes out.
Quick death on impact there, but he had an awk, so they didn't have to use the battle rest.
Love to see that.
Yes, especially whenever you can get that off in the middle of combat.
The escape bar is stability from the known, as well as only a minute CD, so you're actually
able to use it multiple times in phase one to be able to break out of that route.
This is huge.
Oh, I didn't know what I was saying.
Yeah, I was going to say, gollum jumps like a minute and a half or something.
Well, it's normally just garbage, right?
Like, when was the last time you needed to break out of a route?
And on Tendril, notably those roots, whenever you would get dispelled or whatever out of them, it would summon a tree.
So it wasn't even that good for you to be able to actually be able to escape them with any movement effects such as freedom or whatever.
Good execution on the Nox there. We did have deaths though, so that's a third one coming out now.
Do you have a battle res? We'll see if we can break this shield with this many people down,
What we've seen as this goes further and further into the intermission they start taking more
and more damage and start having deaths due to lead out issues and when you're trying
to make progress on an intermission phase, we'd like to have everyone alive just so you
can see more but we'll see, they're here, they're three minutes into the fight, may
as well see how far we can get but you can see this intermission on Mythic is pretty
nasty.
These webs spawning and growing out throughout the intermission.
I think this is going to be a wipe.
I think we're probably wiping.
If we get the third pole in.
They have another 100 mil to go.
They also shipped their lust, which they...
If they have 20 players alive here, they don't normally send it.
They would rather save it for either the last phase or maybe even the intermission.
It's one of those things that they're trying to use the lust to be able to get it to the point
where they would think that they would actually use it during Prague, which is the last phase.
But in theory, you could just use it to continue to see progression,
which is probably more valuable right now.
I guess that's the interesting part though, is that if you lust, get out and break that shield,
then you're not going to have lust a little bit later on when you're trying to hit that frog.
And so then you kind of just see the mechanics again and can't really push past them.
It's one of the things that you'd rather continue to see further on into the fight,
especially since they've only made it into that intermission.
I want to say two times where they've seen the ads, maybe it's a couple more than that.
But in reality, it's about being able to break through that shield like you're saying.
And I think that that's like the the pivotal piece. Yeah, I think at this point
They know that it's going to come down to a couple different combinations
Mechanics that they have to survive or find a way around because eventually they're gonna get to this point where they just need it to
Make like these two progress or you face three progress and can't afford to have any sort of wipes or any sort of deaths in this first
Phase yeah, well P1 was the hardest
Part of this fight during heroic. I mean yeah, this was by far the hardest way like the hardest part of this encounter
I'm kind of interested in seeing
what the
What the final phase damage check ends up looking like because it wasn't that bad during heroic, but I
Suspect it's gonna be a lot more yes difficult on that there will be no mercy
I mean, I'm sure that they're gonna require lust at that point as well
Yeah, the keep of ads you're both gonna have the shackles that must be killed off as well as a couple like castor spiders in
The center of the room that need to get cleaned down as well
Well, that's kind of the allure of these mythic embosses, right?
We don't get to test them on the PTR, so we're kind of in the dark for most of the mechanics
outside of like sporadic data mining stuff, but even that can't necessarily be too accurate
because they do throw red herrings in the notes every now and then in the data.
So you really have to learn a lot of it just from playing it.
And there's certainly a situation kind of like with Sarkarath where you can get
to that last phase and realize, oh wow, there's really only like one or two really
difficult overlaps that we have to get through and we can kill the fight. You're right, on
heroic. Phase one was the majority of the difficulty, but if you stayed in the last phase a little
bit too long, you got some pretty nasty overlaps like two, three minutes into the phase, and
on mythic, if you have to deal with those overlaps, that's probably going to be the
spot where they're going to spend a lot of time progressing on.
Yeah, and same thing with Sarkarath, is this encounter also, you don't have
to push to a certain percent to get to the next phase or anything. All of your
Damage is relevant from the very beginning. Yes. Yes because because how low you push the boss
Okay, so the boss will basically push into the intermission on two different ways first off
It can push off time. Secondly you can push up percent
Well, nothing gets never pushing up percent. It was like normal. I think that what is the percent 35?
Yeah, okay, so maybe like when we're bis with the 45 percent damage. Ah, like even that
I don't even know if we're getting up, but so it's it's it's actually insanely low
So basically it's going to be pushing off time every single time and
With that being the case like Jack said every single point of damage that you can do in phase one is going to be relevant for you to have an easier
Final phase burn and so it's you know being able to min max the amount of damage that's going on here is actually kind of important
So talking about the comp a little bit Jack. Have you been feeling about the double press Holy Pally H breeze?
I feel like this is kind of the standard comp for this raid
Yeah, pretty much if we didn't have to have powered fortitude
I would not be surprised to see the shaman coming in instead
I think shaman has a lot of really good
Instead of the counter interest yeah, if we didn't need powered fortitude
Then I would say that the
Spearling totem the extra stamina gains that shaman brings to the table just honestly like insanely strong raw output
I think it's really good for this encounter might just be a good fill-in for the guilds that don't have double press
but currently no healers can do what preservation does. Healing wise to the
raid they're just the best like ramp or burst healer that's out there at the
moment. Their HBS is just way larger than everybody else. Yeah. And there's just so
many mechanics that renewing blaze is insanely good for. You might as a three
second window, four second window, where it looks at the damage that you've
taken in that period, and then heals you for 100% of the damage you've
taken. It's very strong for those intermission phases that get into phase
And speaking of phase two, we are into that phase right now.
We've broken through the shield with only 16 players alive,
but let's see if we can make a little bit of progress on this phase here.
You can see dropping puddles off on the side here.
These adds need to go down to get up to the platform here with the DPS players down.
So let's take significantly longer than usual.
Let's see how this ends up going here.
Okay, they made it.
Made it through this ad.
I doubt we're going to get to the point where we can break the shield.
You can see the cast bar is already at 45 seconds with the DPS players down.
Yeah.
We're not going to get there.
still see more of the pushes here, see more of the timings used to this case.
So what do we know about this portal mechanic over here that we see on the side?
So we don't know exactly how, what the difference is between heroic to mythic, basically the
portals are, it's going to allow you to be able to, like on the last phase it lets
you port with like the bomb mechanic and the portal becomes unstable and blows up
a few seconds after you take the bomb through it, so you need to be able to like take
a bomb over the wave in the last phase, but I don't know what it's doing here.
Is there also some...
The only thing I could think of it could be used for in this phase is maybe to keep you
on the platform, I think, whenever you're getting sucked.
Yeah, maybe, or it could be something where you have to port over a debuff to get dispelled
or something like that.
I think more to the bombs in P3 on Herok.
Yeah.
I could see that being the case as well.
They had to drop off debuffs as they were getting out of the intermission phase
as well.
Let's see just how many of those gnomes we have in the raid.
What are these faces?
Exiled Dazer players.
I thought this would show what their racial background is.
So fired up is Gnome, Dracos Gnome, Bumi's Gnome, Passion W is Gnome.
I'm exile looks like Calamazis long lost brother.
Dazers also looks like Calamazis long lost brother.
Wicked.
We got the Samwise icon, the default icon.
Love that.
Is that actually what?
Actually a default?
Yeah.
Impact's a goblin?
It's just like a wow dev from back in the day.
Is that a goblin?
Yeah, I mean, this guy's a goblin.
Siri's a goblin, too.
Yeah, to be.
So it looks like maybe half their raid or no?
Maybe less than half.
Yeah, they're about half.
What are the classes that can actually be no?
No, wow.
Let's find out.
Good shout.
I'm binging it.
DK, Mage, Monk, Priest, Rogue, Warlock, Warrior, Hunter.
Okay, so Shamans can't be.
Paladins can't be.
Vokers can't be.
The Vokers can't be.
DH.
DH can't be.
Indruid.
Okay.
Gosh, do you imagine a druid mechanome?
A little transformer.
Oh boy.
Not mechanome, just gnome.
Hi there, I think I can know my name at the same
Requirements, yeah, maybe potentials. Yeah
I just I just tab back in the chat and somebody just goes druid nomas my dream. Yeah, I'm out. I don't blame you a little transformer
I'm just rearranged their body parts to become a little cat. Yeah, so basically it just seems like anybody that can't
Bloat break themselves up consistently has gone no
Oralock obviously doesn't need to go gnome because they can soul burn port every single one.
I think DK can Wraithwalk.
Yeah, that's probably right.
Mage could just blink it, but then you're playing Blink instead of Shimmer, which is kind of weird.
He's gone though, yeah.
He has gone gnome.
But yeah, the nice part about the gnome, the escape art is still one minute CD, so...
You can do one and three with it.
There's a lot of time breaking it.
Yeah.
That's the most interesting thing is when you make some very niche
ratios, and then there's always some kind of fight that ends up being
worthwhile for it. I mean they had a troll on Jaina.
So Jaina had a debuff that had a specific duration to a slow effect that was
also ticking damage, and then it would also make it so that the debuff fell
off earlier, like what, three or four seconds earlier as you were trying to break
her ice wall, and it was a significant amount of extra damage reduced.
So it would reset going into the final phase, so you'd have zero stacks of the debuff instead of three.
Yeah.
You always reset the stacks, but it was always like, you reset like four seconds or five seconds earlier,
and then the healers have a lot more time to like add damage.
It was pretty significant with that dot, that being the like primary damage mechanic,
the entire encounter was just rot damage all the way down.
Oh, I guess. I gotta lock it for the next two hours.
Oh.
There it is.
Okay.
There it is.
So you got a new shipment and everything like that you were just well stocked up all the raiders are really stocked up with their drinks
Unfortunate wipe on screen. I had a moca-loca and everything like that recently might go back and get a rehab
Dude, I was okay. I've never had the Java monsters before I had one today for the first time which one I had the caramel one
Okay, that was good. I was surprised by how much I liked it because no, I'm normally a rehab only kind of guy
Yeah, yeah, the normal monsters are they're okay. I'm not a huge fat
I greatly prefer the non-carbonated versions. Me too. And I was sitting there thinking to myself
How would a carbonated coffee monster taste, but it's not carbonated. Yeah, it's actually really good
I have the mocha loka big fan Irish cream is really good as well. I gotta try that one. Yeah highly recommend
Something I mean it didn't doesn't always vibe with everybody, but I love that one
Absolutely being told by someone in chat mean bean is the best one. What flavor is mean bean? Yeah, I haven't had that one yet
kills made up
It's there. I've seen it. It's real. Yeah, this guy said they're watery
You have to actually just move it around a little bit coffee. Yeah, even says shake gently
Nice and gently mean beans the best. Oh
Wait, is there a vanilla bean one? Oh, oh, there is I gotta gonna get on that
Don't you guys have water? Yeah, but where are you gonna get your caffeine from? That's right
You just put caffeine in water. You know, there's water and monster, right?
I think you probably could.
They do make caffeine a little bit harder, but it feels like you can.
Yeah, that's true.
You're asking the questions.
No need for caffeine. Listen, if I don't get caffeine, I get headaches, and I'm not addicted.
I'm not addicted.
I could stop anytime I want.
Yeah, just like I could stop playing World of Warcraft anytime I want.
I really don't think that's true.
I don't want to test it.
I was going to say, I'm curious to see the longest that you've gone.
you've gone me yeah without playing wow in uh in the past like eight years that I
started since I started playing it's been probably the longest I've went as
like a I went like two months two and a half months really yeah it was a long
time I went three and a half months I was on a study abroad in Ireland and I
I don't have WoW there. Ireland's a weird place.
What was your 3 month's arrow? It was right before Sepulcher.
So it drank from after Sanctum of Domination before Sepulcher.
That was a tough time. That was a tough time in WoW. I totally understand that one.
TFT mm-hmm got back into tennis
It's great, and then I was ready for the spooker race. I was all
Fresh and you need to yeah, you needed to be just a good thing because that was a that was a time
Oh, that was a heck of time somebody said 9.1 helped me take five months off. Oh, no
That was a that was one of the tears of all time for sure. I was always a dark days. I like to shout out Corthia
Yeah, shout out the shards of domination
talk about you know one of the things that could have led to one of the most
imbalanced races of all time but they just lucked out with it dude imagine if
one of the like imagine if like the fifth best guild just randomly hit like
15 sets of the purple shards on a week one and got world first yeah yeah that
was um that was a very dark time I remember we were trying to figure out
the acquisition method for how you would get those domination charts yeah
And it wasn't known until like the absolute last possible second you just kill bosses and then hopefully you get him
I just read it. Yeah, I remember for my wow head guide
They had us starting to write the like page for like the shards of domination
Yeah, yeah, and then I started doing more and more research about what these were and then I reckon and then I started realizing
What the acquisition was and I was just like, oh wait, this is
Perhaps one of the worst systems I've ever seen. Oh, no. Oh
Oh, no.
It was literally just like an, oh no.
And then I just like immediately made a YouTube video and I think it was titled, Shards of
Domination is the worst system ever.
I remember that.
I remember that.
It was like, I was just like, I had a moment of realization, I was like, this is so bad.
I remember there were also some people who like somehow accidentally deleted their
shard and there was no way to get it back.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
I had a person in my guild, they accidentally, because it wasn't you deleted it,
You accidentally placed a shard on top of the other shard inside of your gear and it would just, it would destroy it.
Yes, there was a guy inside of my guild who did that and then he was like,
He's taking it to Blizzard and was like, can I get it back? And they're like, no.
By the way, phase two?
Let's get a little phase two action on this one.
No death, oh they do have one death at the moment.
One death, one death.
That's okay, we'll take it.
We really just want to see, we really just want to see into the last phase.
So, they've been struggling to be able to get all of these ads killed off.
Oh my gosh, I saw fire up a lot of the videos that fell into the abyss.
Um, it was on screen, sorry.
Sorry for making it fast.
Just like in the intermission, we'll drop webs on the ground that will then slowly grow over time.
Yes.
Making it so you do not actually have that much time to stay on this platform.
Obviously, you wouldn't anyways, you're trying to get to the second one as quickly as possible.
But, I think one of the big things that they can try and do once they get their cooldowns in this phase
and start getting more consistent with it,
is try to beat that second rest.
That'll be a huge thing,
a huge damage check if they can get ready for it.
No!
When you kill off both of these adds
and you click on those pillars that spawn the bridge,
it cancels the rest.
So they can run over and click right now
and it'll cancel it, perfect, just like that.
They beat the third rest.
And then of course you have to run up to this platform
and break the shield before the cast goes off.
It's not gonna happen here.
There's three seconds on that cast though.
Yeah.
They're dead and now.
But it's doable.
I see what it's supposed to be looking like.
That felt like a pretty good pull.
Kalamazzi, over here, looking at the screen
from the sidelines, clapping a bit.
He's feeling pretty good about it.
So you love it?
You feeling it?
He's nodding.
Good pull.
Clapping.
That was a very good pull.
It wasn't a new best in terms of like fight progress.
Like you can see the high stage fee was a little bit higher.
But in terms of what we were continuing to see
in the fight, that's what we need to be seeing, right?
Consistently getting through phase one,
like three out of every five pulls
or something like that,
will really help us continue to see further into this boss.
Yeah, if you want to sound smart to your friends,
let them know, Liquid got into phase two, platform two.
That's the progress that we're at.
Yep, just barely, with everybody,
with most of the crew dead, but still.
Phase two, platform two,
we're making good progress right now.
What did you think about the Echo Recreator today?
It looked like a bit of struggle.
Yeah. Yeah, hard struggled on KVSA.
Yeah, how many wipes did they have on that boss?
I don't know the number.
I know the hours.
a long time they were on the bus for about four hours yeah that's what i heard as well oh they
struggled yeah it was painful to watch they got through it eventually i i think yeah the biggest
part of it and i mean this also goes for a method as well is that both have had their struggles
some pretty deep ones going into it you know method of course having the struggles with
silver court and then there's mecho struggles with their reclear but this fight looks like it's
going to be taking a very long time and so i wouldn't be writing anybody off at this point
with how long of progression this boss fight looks to be, nobody is like so far ahead in
the lead that nobody can catch up to them, nobody goes to victory, none of that.
I think it's one of the situations too that, you know, Liquid is ahead in terms of Queen
Ansaric progress, but depending on how hard this boss is, I mean, we saw everybody get
walled at the very end of Nexus Princess too, and something like that, if there's
like a really, just like the hardest damage check of all time or something like that
at the very end of this fight, but it's doable.
That could be a situation where, you know,
it really could equalize for all of the guilds
and we could see basically anybody win.
But Liquid, I think, you know,
they had a pretty good re-clear yesterday
and they are in good prime position today.
They had about as good of a re-clear
as you could ask for, right?
One chopper, twister, 12 pulls on Princess,
took them maybe 40 minutes, 30, 40 minutes.
We thought it would take about that.
I was saying it would take about an hour
or something along those lines
because we knew that it was not going
to be a consistent re-kill.
Dude, I didn't know that Ekko took four hours on their Nexus Princess, that is brutal.
Yeah, that's pretty rough.
Were they at least okay on Silkencourt?
I didn't see Silkencourt, so I'm not sure.
I think it was like 15 wipes or so on Silkencourt for Liquid.
They got back to, I mean, Ekko got back to Ensurek and had a new PB, I saw that earlier.
They did get back at him.
Yeah.
That was a long day for them, remember, they alarm clocked the reset on week two, they started at 5AM, so
they killed
I have this, about the time I got to the
Alienware training facility here, and that was about three hours ago.
So it was pretty late in the day for them. It was like already 90 or so.
So they've been going for about 16 hours. It's a long day.
Definitely. I would not be counting anybody out yet until we see further into this fight
because I think that the last phase of this encounter could be just rough.
Yeah, I mean, just like Max was talking about last night, the slingshot is still in effect, right?
in effect, right? Just because you're a little behind on the boss right now doesn't mean you still
aren't gathering information, gathering the understanding that the other guild is going
through and adding that to your own, right? They're still slightly behind in terms of actual
playtime on the fight, but they get all the information from Liquid. They're going to be
able to use that to aid their progression tomorrow. And I really wouldn't be surprised
if after we're done rating tonight, when Echo starts rating again, they'll probably
get a little further into phase two or maybe even phase three before we get back on tomorrow.
Yeah, one of the most important things for like the European guilds that do start later than the NA guilds is
The ability to be able to take what was shown and what was learned by the the guilds that are in the lead
And be able to implement that into what you're doing to reduce the pull count in the time to prog on a boss
That's like a huge deal. It is and it's a really good opportunity for anybody to
Make sure they're avoiding some of the pit balls that we saw early on they'll be able to look at the cool down
an allocation obviously they're not pulling up like a spreadsheet or anyways
Warcraft logs but they're they're uh oh dude I'm your spies can pull up a lot of
information just watching the streams so the analysts a lot of the times too
like you're saying will be mapping out CDs and you don't even need to do
Warcraft logs with basically the the stream being so prevalent you have
people's UIs and whatnot that are actually showing like when raided CDs
are pressed, when offensives are pressed, when a bunch of different stuff is being used
as well.
And then you can kind of just, while you don't have the logs, you can just do it manually
by watching a VOD.
Yeah, like watching, you know, fired up POV, you will have an MRT note and then you'll
be able to look at the order at which cooldowns are allocated, see how consistent they are,
see what mechanics that they're focusing in on, and then you're going to be able
to see, you know, when people are using externals, just, and who they're using
them on.
Are they using them on it's the more that like the analysts are understanding the fight in advance while
The rest of the team is re clearing this easier it can be for them to start carving out a plan and shaving off
You know 20 minutes here 30 minutes there planning
This has still been a been incredibly close race and I kind of expect echo and liquid to be pulling Queen answer
Reck within 15% of one another at the very end of this
At the very end of this fight and I think that we saw kind of a battle at the end of fire rack
And I I'm kind of expecting something similar. Yeah, I would say so
Yeah, something else I think that's important to mention is it's the sort of end of a marathon or that that we're at right now
For most other raid tiers, you know a patch will come out
You'll have like one week of prep and then the raid will open and you just go in you start farming
And then maybe the raid will be done in two weeks even if there's a heroic week usually about two weeks after that
So from prep to button boss kill you're probably talking to and a half to three weeks
This particular tier at the start of an expansion. That's a little bit longer, right?
they've been doing a ton of PTR prep heading up to it, which they do for other tiers too.
But then expansion launches like a month before the raid actually comes out.
You think they're just taking it easy during that?
They might be.
But in the back of their minds, you've got to level characters, you've got to prep those
characters for splits.
It's a lot of time that they've been spending that game for the past month and thinking
about this race.
It's a pretty tough mental battle to get through.
I've never seen more than 10 splits ever.
I...
16 splits is unprecedented.
Like that, that is an insane amount of characters that everybody has.
I remember whenever Sepulchre was coming out, everybody had eight or nine characters, and
it was like, oh my god, this is so many.
This is the most characters anybody's ever had, oh my god.
And then this War Within comes out and the early access leveling is free and heroic,
because back then it's like, oh my god, I'm going to level 25, guys, you can't
Stop being blizzard, two on 100 mages!
Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh!
Same for your gate test.
I swear you tried to get them to clip you, man.
That's a perfect one.
Dude, it's not my fault.
That's right, there's no feedback or background for it, either.
Oh my goodness.
Let me just tune in.
We're still waiting to see the next pulls coming up for Team Liquid.
Is there having more of a discussion?
We have seen the second platform right now in this second phase,
So it's a little bit of extra progression that we've had going on.
Wasn't perfect, wasn't clean.
We still had a number of deaths going on to that platform.
Couple deaths as they were killing off the adds.
Now it looks like they're working on mapping out those shadow gates,
the positioning that they wanted for any of the debuff drop-offs,
how they're aligning cooldowns to muscle heal through them,
and then really going to be seeing how they can implement it
and put that plan into action.
The best percentage on this fight lends some ideas.
is how good your burn is, but it doesn't tell the whole story since the boss goes immune
and then you start fighting ads in the intermission.
I think let's try to give like a little bit of a recap as to what we've actually seen with
this fight so far.
So most of what we've seen through Prague is basically through P1.
The main difference on this fight is going to be these froth circles that you use
to jump over the wave.
The wave is probably the newest mechanic to World of Warcraft that we've seen
where they're getting over it by basically launching everybody in the air and being
able to land back on the ground and you take damage based off of like how
desynced players are inside these froth circles. There'll be like a dot placed
on everybody kind of. And so they start with two and then it incrementally gets
more and more as the boss shoots out the waves going all the way up to four
froths where they're gonna have to have five players in each one. They also
those froths have to be broken up with a one second detonation difference
between them, otherwise they just wipe. They have a debuff that's on them, and so you'll
see two of them are placed really close to melee. One of them is used early to get players
all the way over the line. The other one is used a little bit later. That helps melee
basically be able to do as much damage as possible and maintain 100% boss uptime. After
you do that, the whole entire raid is also swapped to gnome for the racial ability
escape artist. There are routes that are onto players every so often. They have
to either be broken out by damage, but notably they can be broken out by, you know,
root removal effects such as Tiger's Lust or Freedom or Escape Artist in this
in this instance. So most people have been swapping a gnome and that's to help a lot.
Then there's the first intermission which after a certain period of time Queen Ancerek
goes into the middle of the room and starts casting Rest which drags players towards her
but notably also drops this spider web puddle beneath them that grows over time.
And you're on a bit of a timer to be able to break through a 700 million health shield.
That's huge. After that, you have to kill two adds that are on the sides of the platform,
and then once those adds die, similar to what we saw from Razageth,
an orb explodes like in the middle of the room and you like get launched up onto the platforms,
then you have to kill some adds kind of similar to what we saw on Heroic,
if you if you actually have ever seen this fight on Heroic,
and then be able to break through a shield on two adds that are at the top platform right before you're able to make it into the last phase.
Those adds notably have a 70 million health shield.
That's actually not that bad, but we've yet to see that shield get broken.
We've actually yet to see the final phase of this fight and see what the timings, or if any new mechanics of the fight, are here.
There's a chance that there is a hidden phase. There's a chance that there are hidden mechanics,
because they're more often than not are hidden mechanics
that just aren't present in the dungeon journal for an end mythic fight,
but we don't really know what those are going to look like or if they're even present.
And so that's kind of where we stand with what's going on with Queen Ancerek.
And part of the difficulty that they're dealing with right now is
not only is that four froth transition into the intermission extremely tough to deal with,
they're taking four huge bursts of damage on smaller groups of players,
so it's split between fewer players, so there's higher potential for them to get one shot.
But there's also two back-to-back DPS checks. Number one, the shield, that's 750 million shield,
that's a huge amount of HP to chew through, and if you don't beat the third rest, you're probably
dying. That third rest is going to fill up the rest of your room with webs, everyone's
going to be standing on webs, and you're probably just going to die. The second you deal with
that shield and the second that first set of ad spawn is another DPS check. To get up to
that second platform and break that shield. So you're just dealing with two
back-to-back difficult DPS checks and they haven't quite figured out number one
how to keep everyone alive through that just yet, but also number two damage
allocation is going to be extremely important. You can't really slack on any
of those ads. Any of those three ad sets, you have to make sure you're doing
maximum DPS to. So it's gonna be tough to see them puzzle this out and it
might be something that takes them a long time. I do think that they could
probably see into the last phase right now if they really wanted to if they were
just like all right we have to keep everybody alive don't even do damage just
try to make sure that you're staying alive and you only do damage to the
things that requires you know shield breaks are at killing or whatever else
like that there's a lot of those but the problem is there's a lot of those the
problem is doing it like that then you'll have to reprog the fight later
on whenever you actually have to do damage to the boss and so it's just
like completely worthless to see to the end of the fight even though it would
be kind of cool I says I actually expect that we're going to have some polls at
at some point this evening that they do see into the final phase.
What if you wanted to progress on this fight so you purposefully didn't push the boss below 80%
just so you could benefit from Hunter's Mark on the shield?
Oh my, uh...
Chatting.
That is chatting.
That is chatting.
Hunter's Mark, by the way.
Excellent. One of the greatest buffs of all time.
Oh my goodness.
That is an absolute...
You know what's crazy? They're pushing the boss to like 60% HP and you're like what if they just did 20% less damage?
What if they didn't?
Yeah, huh?
Didn't.
This is one of those things you should remember like right now keep this in your head 63%.
Okay.
I guarantee you two days from now when we're in the in the kill pull territory
that's probably gonna be in the 50s somewhere.
Yeah.
Because they will realize okay wow we actually need to do more damage in P1.
We need to send cooldowns before the shield and just find a way to live in that shield phase even longer.
You're kind of scared right now to use cooldowns right before the shield because you want to use those cooldowns to break the shield faster, right?
Well, actually maybe the fight does not allow you to do that. Maybe you need that boss damage.
It's a it's a balance that you just have to find and I think that that's something that the analysts will be doing in their spare time is like doing
Log deep dives on what is the most efficient way that we can do 700 million damage to the shield?
Like what what are the optimal cooldowns to be pressing what are the optimal cooldowns to be?
Holding for that shield versus pressing on the boss and and where is a lot of our damage actually coming from and that's something that you definitely
Can find and calculate
But it just takes time right and that's why I think that the progression of the race world first has been so interesting
Because whenever the race world first started being broadcasted there were no 21st bands. There were no analysts
We were watching basically the evolution of what we saw
kind of in Legion and whatnot going into just like a broadcast of product and as
it's become more competitive and it as it's become more serious things have
changed and I think that one of the largest evolutions is you know we people
who make week or is pretty much on demand for these guilds as opposed to
having somebody in the raid that next week or is having a 21st man raid
leader that is like their assigned role is to just be the raid leader and
and then having three, four, potentially even five analysts that help you do strat design
and create graphs and graphics and whatnot to be able to like show what your positioning is supposed
to be looking like and how to do the fight as fast as possible because like a fight like Nexus
Princess, that is a great fight for a 21st man and for like an analyst to be able to determine
how are we baiting these masks baits and how are we going to be doing that.
And then similar for like Silicon Court, it's how are we moving around the room to be able
able to get the orb soaks.
And I think it's just increased progression so much.
And I think that's one of the reasons
that the race world first is just so competitive these days.
And all of these guilds have gotten great as fast as they
have is just because the evolution of rating
has changed so much.
Yeah, each new race here really forces
you to doing different things.
And with more experience, more time spent, more raid tiers
where you're spending up even more time than ever,
prepping characters, organizing strategies.
Really, there's only so many sort of like new mechanics, you know, we recognize like the Tindrel mechanic, rooting all of the players for example.
This overlap right here is what kills them almost every single time.
It's the web drop where everyone is saving the gnome fork into popping four of these shields, and you have to pop it at the last second right before the wave gets to you.
And we've had at least one or two deaths almost every single time. This is the best we've seen them fare so far.
One death on impact, uses the onk instantly, and then a further death onto, I believe that...
It was Bumi who died and then two deaths right afterwards, man.
Yep, and then of course if you ever had anybody who is dead for the dead nation, it makes it harder for you to keep everybody alive a little bit later on when you don't have the proper distribution for any of those froth knockups.
It's just so tough to heal through it, but I mean, here's the thing, right? Just like it was on Silkencourt, just like it was on Cavesa, with more poles comes more consistency.
They just need to see this more so they can understand where they need to allocate externals
to, where people need to exactly use their cooldowns.
They're starting to figure it out.
You can see, for instance, from FireDub's POV, you know into Ice Cold, you have a reminder
telling them not to alter time for the mechanic, you always alter times.
Things like that are going to help them in the long run here, but here we are, another
Phase 2 pull, 18 people alive.
Let's see how we get it.
The damage check shows now.
You can see those adds spawn with the cast bars.
One of the nice things too is that it is 18 people, but I think that they're
in two separate groups.
One of them is in that red X marker group and the other one is in that blue square group.
So basically how they have these split is group 1 and group 2 are going to be going off over
the one platform and group 3 and group 4 are going to be going to a different platform.
Right.
They're splitting up into two.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Somebody missed.
Now he made it on.
Okay.
Check really.
Mage blink off.
Scary.
Ooh.
I wonder if that was somebody getting lasered as they walked through the portal.
That's what it looked like to me.
What could happen?
So can we actually, if you don't mind production, is there any chance to get a replay of Yps's
POV from about a minute ago?
Because I saw that he had a take gate notification and the gate was glowing red for him.
So I want to see if he had a debuff or a bomb or anything, because I haven't personally
seen exactly why they're taking the gates in this particular phase yet.
Oh, they're on a break.
Seven minute break.
Okay.
Well, perfect time for a replay.
Absolutely.
If we can get one.
Just we could see the positioning and the adjustments that they're making whenever they have the bombs or they're traveling through the portals
I'll make it a little bit easier for us to help understand and point it out
In the meantime, I mean again
We had a perfect example of the things that are causing issues for them this pull that quad froth
Directly into the intermission doesn't help that they have yet another set of those webs right beforehand. Yeah
Check on the group, the healing check on the group at that point in time is pretty ridiculous
and it probably doesn't help that right as people are taking damage you're getting launched
in the air so you can't really cast any healing abilities other than instant.
Getting 20 players alive going into that intermission is going to be brutal.
Oh, here we go.
Okay, perfect.
Let's see if we can check it out.
You see, they had actually 5 seconds left remaining there for the last of the rest,
to the big poles. They actually have a little bit of leeway if they wanted to just
min-max a bit of extra damage or hold some cooldowns or something like that as they move
into this phase here.
So it's not a debuff-based thing, it might just be a player-based thing, like you need
to take the gate or it explodes at some point, and it looks like you gain a debuff
after going through the gate.
Yeah, and you could probably no longer take that gate for the rest of the phase. There's
also a dispel mechanic that coincides with going through the gate, so they probably
We just have to assign different people to take those gates throughout the phase.
That's an interesting extra thing added to the phase.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Okay.
Oh, look at Jernako.
Yeah, I thought he was about to fall.
Just barely.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought he was going off.
Yeah, I think it's as simple as you can see Jernako's going into the portal right
now.
I wonder what happens in the portal and then somebody else is going to be popping
out if I'm not mistaken pretty soon.
I wonder what happened on the other side if Scott got pulled off or if maybe he didn't land on the platform or something like that too.
Could be kind of a wide variety of things.
Bear Druid I think is much more challenging to be able to...
Yeah, like what even happened right before this? Like where does he...
Oh, he doesn't even make it to the platform?
Yeah.
Oh, gotcha.
What's that tracks?
Which okay, and then he's onto the platform.
They have the portal diva, they need to have somebody going through it before it ends up exploding.
Well then the mobs are also mailing people too.
There's like a lot that's going wrong, right?
So they need to be portaling across
to be able to drop the bomb and then Scott's dead.
So it's 20 melee two.
This is clearly a life.
Very much so, but we're seeing a little bit more
and understanding a bit more as well
about the fight as we're going through
and helping us to better call out
some of the different things
that they're changing around with their strategies.
And it's also nice for them
when you have these sort of break timers coming up
because you know that they're not taking
their minds off of the progression.
We can even like peek over.
We can see them already talking about it
in the hallway and everything, just to kind of get up,
move around, get their blood flowing a little bit more.
It might have been just like a quick bathroom break.
Quick clear head, walk around, clear your mind,
get back into it.
We've got a lot of time left on this boss,
probably a couple days at the minimum.
Walk off the feedas from lunch?
Yeah.
Goodbye, guys.
Anything Chef Heidi makes is good, let's be honest.
I know, I could just have the feedas
literally every single day though.
Dude, you know what we're having for dinner tonight,
right?
Oh, that's right, we're having the braised beef,
the dragon slayer special.
The special?
Dude, yes.
I saw Chef Heidi tweet out Dorkin earlier.
Yep.
Yeah.
I know she was a Dorkin enjoyer.
She is one with the mole people.
Oh my gosh.
I think she's a big dorky fan.
That's just crazy.
It's understandable.
Don't get them started.
They'll start spamming it even though it's not
in a mode in our chat.
Oh, is it not?
Oh, it's right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Purpose.
On purpose.
Ah, what can you do?
Well, that's why there's a little difference
with her chat, you know?
If you want to do that, go to Max's chat.
Yeah.
We don't do that.
If you guys just tuned in, the Reds are taking a break.
We did just get to see some more face two pulls.
We were getting into the second of the two platforms,
getting a bit better understanding of the encounter
and what we have going on with it.
And also, let's not forget,
we did hit our $20,000 donation goal
for the Santa Monica Animal Shelter,
which means that Tettles is getting a date with Zalatath.
I just feel like a proud father.
You guys have any advice?
gotta be yourself, you know? You gotta be yourself. You have to not be afraid of saying
how you truly feel about things, not just saying something to try to get a reaction out of her
or anything like that. You know, you gotta be...
What if you do not tell her to turn that sucker around?
Turn that sucker around. I would never say that.
Be.
That's AI.
I don't know, it sounds just like you. I mean, AI is very convincing.
Do you have any other advice for titles?
people have actually told me don't be myself. I would hit this the best people
listen to, Triney. How are you? How are you feeling, man? Don't know how I'd feel.
Good? Alright, I love it. What was that? MP hasn't been replaced by a
preservation. Oh, he hasn't been replaced by a preservation. That's always a good day.
That's always a good day. I mean, days are in the raid so there's always an opportunity.
We hope not. Okay, we hope not. I hope not at least. Okay. How do you prep
someone for a date with a knife? I don't know, man. We're trying, okay?
I don't know gosh. We're trying we can start by reading some transmogs
Let's do it. Okay. You know, he's got a he's got to get his fit correct
So let's see if we can fit some transmogs or anything like that first before we go into it
I mean not not title check with the trans box while you guys are reading transmogs. I'm gonna get my fit on one second
Man, I hope you got that fit on. Oh, it's just you and me jack. He's left us. What do we think of this guy?
low
agro bird oh
Oh, that's what it is. I'm glad you read that.
I was going to say something completely different at first.
Yeah, I thought it was Robert.
Low-wag Robert.
I love this top hat. Love the blades.
From Gaslighters Anonymous, that's Tettle's Guild, I heard.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah. Oh, no, he's in the Gaslight Gazebo.
I don't think that is his.
Yeah, I think you're misremembering.
His discord is the Gaslight Gazebo.
Oh, no, I don't think that's what it is.
We'll ask him when he gets back.
I think you might be thinking of something else.
Anyway, 9 out of 10.
It's pretty good, yeah, 8.5 out of 10.
I take it.
I take it.
Cool.
He definitely invited me to a Discord code.
That was me pretending to gaslight you.
Oh.
Dang.
Obsidian Slayer, hey.
We have Age Leica.
What are these?
What are these weapons?
A glacier?
That's a cool name.
What are they?
That's a really cool name.
They're like the skulls of reindeer.
Is that from a story or something?
That sounds like a really cool name.
I feel like I should know what that's from.
Chess, as we already saw this one.
Huh.
There's a chance that they didn't-
Well, I didn't, so, you know.
They didn't see their time.
I didn't get rated, so they resubmitted.
That happens a lot.
That's true.
We also have the shoulders from Battle for Dizarlor.
The death shoulders.
It's a banger.
Yeah, these are cool.
Yeah, apparently these are job owners from Max.
I gotta play some more played DDS, apparently.
It's cool, like a Zandalari mod.
Yeah.
Even though they're not Zandalari,
they're just regular troll,
but it kind of fits with the Zandalari theme now.
Yeah, it's like the helm and then the right shoulder go together and then the tusk of mana off kind of goes wrong with the rest
Kind of a flex of like I have all of these things. Yeah, you're kind of right
I don't like it for that like it bit hodgepodge. I'd give it an 8.7
I'll give it a 6.9. Hey, it tells XYZ your PDQ
Examine your zipper
Yeah, there it is. He doesn't know acronyms. Just the young buck
That would have been embarrassing on the date it would have it would have thankfully we're not on camera
That that would have been brutal now. He's ready for the day our back. He fully changed every ounce of his clothing
Well, I don't know about you just took his hoodie off
No, no, no, no, no, no, you actually change shirts. Well. Yeah. Yeah, he doesn't have a shirt shirt underneath that
Yeah, he doesn't have a shirt on underneath. Well, sometimes it's good to have a undershirt, you know, it depends
We have another train scum coming in on this one.
Oh, 8.7, I think that's what I said.
I think it's like a 7.
I think it's good.
Yeah, solid.
It's cool.
Yeah, a 7.
It's about high rating.
A 7?
So, it's not bad.
I know, but you're usually rating mobs very lowly.
Oh, apparently Eglacia is Grindel's mother from Vale.
Oh, there you go.
I knew it was a story related.
That's a cool name.
Yeah.
Look at the titles.
Look at all that.
There you go.
Why don't you roll them up?
Well, I normally...
Okay, do you think it'll look better if I roll them up here?
Yeah.
Okay.
You don't?
No.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm trying to help.
If she's letting the dogs out, you've got to let the wrist out.
You've got to let the forearm.
You've got to let the forearm, Jack.
Yeah.
You're getting ties.
I didn't bring any with me this time.
I don't have any ties.
I used to have all the ties.
Dude, they had me...
They had me wearing ties at some point for the MDI.
That was...
That was not fun.
I was very bad at tying them and I...
Atchetics.
help yes I know it's fun that was slow down slow down I'm gonna rocker no no no
you have time you you literally have never done this before I know I can see
that well no not this
slow down and get it right killing me here all right Chad what do we think
let me help you know let dad help you this is important this is important
They're all scuffed!
What do we think about titles?
They're scuffed!
Didn't ask!
Oh my gosh!
You're going on a date and you're going to look all scuffed, okay?
I'm feeling good.
Chat, you have to rate titles as transmog.
We've swapped from caster titles into date titles.
What do we think?
Sun?
The titles stand up.
It's about the details, alright?
The titles are around the house.
The titles, uh...
Turn the fuck around.
Hey, hey, hey.
Just stand up.
Just stand up once.
I'm feeling good.
One more time.
Stand up real quick.
Office worker out of 10.
Tatlis, you look like the I had to do it to him guy.
I see a dude, could you?
You know I had to do it to him.
Could you do this?
Yeah, yeah, the hand over the fist.
No, you know I had to do it to him.
Yeah, you know I had to do it to him.
I don't know.
I think Tatlis could rock a bow tie onto that one.
I could see that.
I wore a bow tie at BlizzCon.
Yeah, I've seen it.
Are they there?
Yeah.
I've seen them one at a time.
Oh, it's for work.
OK.
It was a work event.
Was that easier to tie or was it clip on?
Did you tie yourself?
I tied it myself.
Hey!
Hey, don't shame people for using clip on, Smith.
I am the greatest.
I tied it myself.
Then I went down the rabbit hole of learning how to tie like trinity knots and stuff.
That's how you know you're lost.
I know.
Well, it would be the first time.
You were also playing like those kind of nice tie clips too.
Yeah, I love the tie clips.
Well, because basically the ties had to be so short, like the back of the tie because
I'm just long that you wouldn't be able to tuck it in so I had to get high clips to like hold it in place
Yeah, yeah, you wouldn't understand titles
So you know the back of the tie you have like a little loop that you go through
But if you have to tie the tie very long because you want it to go to the bottom too and to go just above your bell buckle
You know you have if I speak I'll get in trouble. I fear save it for the day. Listen. It's just men's fashion
We don't need that we don't need to know about so you know, there's that a Twitter account
It's like all men's fashion who actually shamed
He shames a lot of people.
Daniel Craig, really, into going a size down.
He was like, it looks rough when you have all this fluff going on and everything like
that.
And he actually started going a size down because of this guy on Twitter's recommendation.
It was great.
He looked better.
He looked very good.
I mean, Daniel Craig looks great, right?
But he looked very good.
That's what I was thinking.
Okay, so wait.
Do we have any advice?
I feel like there was no good advice there.
We don't really have a lot of time, Teddles.
We don't have a lot of time to get, like...
We just said he had a lot of time.
I think I did that.
Yeah, you definitely don't need that.
No, no, no, no, no.
Not giving you my watch.
There's one on my desk, you can use mine.
You need, you need Xyro, or you need Kalamawzi.
Kalamawzi does have a Rolex.
I don't know.
It's not a Rolex.
It's not a Rolex, it's a Rolex.
It's something that looks similar to it.
I don't remember the name of it.
Some like scuba watch, something along those lines.
Ah, man.
Yeah, I don't know if we have time to like,
do a whole pretty woman kind of setup or anything like that.
Okay, not that.
Yeah.
I don't think Chad was giving you high ratings, I saw 8.9% of the time, so I thought that was a good 10%.
Well, that's the other side of it, is thankfully the people that were having their mugs raided by Tettles
didn't come back to raid his fit IRL, it would have been like the full revenge arc, but they seem to be pretty merciful.
The raiders, by the way, are not pulling right now, they're just coming back from a break.
They got up, we're moving around a little bit because there's been a lot of boss progress that's been going on
And it's, uh, seeing the next phase, I guess you could say.
The percentage hasn't been changing much, but we're seeing we have gotten just to the end of phase two.
And with it, there needs to be a lot more progress and a lot more consistency coming into it.
Solid 9, Tettles looks handsome AF. Let's go.
Let's go.
Yes, yeah!
Oh my god, Solid Teth, you will be mine.
This is so good.
I'll do anything for her. I've been playing an Augavoker.
Oh no, no, no, no. You can't start the date like that.
You can't just start by saying you'll do anything for her whatever you do. Just don't I'm desperate don't talk about her time being trapped in the knife
I think it's a source up
You don't get it. I am desperate
You can't start that way, okay, okay
Can I start that way you got to be cool? Well, you got to just you know, what do you think a good opening line is?
I I think I got one hold on but let's pretend that yours alatath real quick
Okay, so okay often
To the Alienware training facility?
Hold on to your luck.
No, no, no, no.
To what?
This day?
Ajcahet?
Been on any dates recently?
Been on any dates recently.
I don't think that's a good opening line.
What, uh...
I don't think so.
Uh...
What about...
Okay, how about this one?
I would have freed you from the knife, too.
How can I help you deal with Illyria?
Oh, no.
He would hay-maker to the mall.
Okay, I won't start with that.
that sometimes you have a culturant on the screen and he looks like you would
hate me I got told last night after our transmog session that they had 45
soundbites stop typing L Riz okay what would your opening line be chat please
help me here yeah chat what would you if you're on a date with Zelotath what
would your opening line be what do you got give it give us some lines what's
your I oh oh yeah try hello do you know what dinosaur fun fact of course of
course wow there's a lot of feet comments like five of them in a row that's a
Man, this is getting rough.
What size shoes do you wear?
I can't ask you that, man.
Oh no, the mod is gonna be risky every time.
Guys, I have one chance. You guys raise $20,000 for this, please, man.
There's one... I have one chance.
They give you the opportunity, okay? They're not gonna walk you the whole way.
Oh my gosh, man. Alright, you know what?
Alright, I need you guys to help me then.
Jack?
I don't think we're gonna be there.
You keep asking me.
You look like you're going on lots of dates.
Uh, did your mom tell you that?
Okay, let's relax for a second.
I don't know why he's in a high-finger attack.
Okay, please?
Anyhow, I don't know why I've just got nowhere else help.
Okay, I'll help you.
Yeah, well, you gotta start by being yourself, Teddles.
Okay?
You gotta make sure you're locked in, like THD.
Clearly she's already interested in you.
That's right, she said yes.
I think you gotta listen, okay?
You gotta be prepared to listen,
and then you gotta give responses
that are conversational threads, okay?
You said threads?
Threads, threads like spiders.
Tell us like spiders, threads.
Like if you don't go to another day with me,
I'll put you back in that sword.
Yeah, that would be bad.
That would be bad.
Don't do that, don't do that.
Word.
I might say Azeroth, but do not give her the ick.
Yeah, don't give her the ick.
I have bad news guys, I do that a lot.
Okay, like what like what would you do like okay?
If you go to a restaurant and you order a meal on the menu
Do you order like the appetizer platter or do you order a normal entree?
Because if you order the appetizer platter, that's that's an egg for a lot of wait wait wait as a meal like as a meal
Oh, yeah, you never do that like the sampler platter. Yeah, you don't do that. That is bad. You don't do that
No, no, no, no, no, that's great to have when you're like solo or with the boys, but nah
Do not order the flying Dutchman. Okay, no
Do I keep my shoes on or off no you keep your shoes on okay, okay?
You you come as you are you don't take off your shoes to appease her can't do that anything for her okay?
If you go to Panda listen when you get easy get the orange chicken. Don't get the double fry
We're going somewhere better than the hand express. Where are you going? That's fun. I
Don't worry about that. I don't want to I don't want to dox dox my queen all right fair enough
All right, what do you do when she asks you how your day was?
Why say it was pretty good wrong you need to give con you need to thread the conversation
Okay, my is my day was good at where does she go from there nowhere it turns into awkward
small talk you got a you got to have threads to the conversation titles just like I see
out of your your slack right there okay you got to say my day was good I went cast
with Jack he's my favorite co-caster I've heard that he was teaching everybody about
Trogdor today.
You ever heard of Trogdor?
So why would it be on the table?
And then you've got to have a third thing.
All right, I'll leave the third thing up to you.
You've got to give an opening for where
the conversation is supposed to go.
And it's like, I've never heard of Trogdor.
And then you can get into a 30-minute explanation
about Trogdor the burninator, OK?
That's when you really just got the conversation
taken to the next level.
Guys, I got this bad pit in my stomach right now.
I get it.
You know who had a pit in the stomach?
The peasants who had their Thatchroof cat cottages burned down, okay?
Thatchroof cat cottages!
What are you guys even talking about?
Such a zoomer.
You are my son.
You are my son.
I'm not no homestar runner, man.
Chat knows.
So sad.
Chat knows, and that's what's important.
Okay, titles.
But that's what conversational threading is, okay?
You have to find out what she's interested in.
Void stuff?
Good news, I've been researching.
Not socks?
Yep.
Uh-huh, like interior design. She knows my friend N'zoth.
So talk to her about, you know, the interior of the priory. She is kind of well traveled. She's been into a lot of different environments throughout the world.
I'm well traveled. It's good.
Probably don't tell her that you killed N'zoth? That'd be a bad idea.
Indeed.
Unless she's into that, in which case, you know, feel it out. Feel it out. Keep it in your back pocket, but don't use that as a starting line.
Okay, I can buffer in Mythic Plus.
There you go, there you go.
There you go.
Yeah.
Shadow Priest not looking so good right now though.
Yeah.
Very much so.
But that also works out in your favor, is that you're not a Shadow Priest.
Oh, that's a good point.
Yeah, true.
Yeah, not happy there, brutal.
Yeah, that would be my face as well, seeing the titles on this date just hand in nail.
Untrained of course, but we're trying to train, okay?
We're trying.
We're trying to train.
Okay.
He's getting good advice.
Chat's helping out a lot too.
Yeah, save it for the date when you can't reach it.
I need you guys to spam the Rizzler.
Whatever I'm there, okay?
You guys have to have my best.
Can you do this with the Rizzler face?
No, I don't...
He doesn't know who the Rizzler is.
That's me.
It's actually me.
It's not you yet, okay?
Who's going to do it then?
Who's going to date with Xalata?
Okay.
You gotta talk to her about your hobbies, okay?
Okay.
I love playing World of Warcraft.
Okay.
But you gotta go further than that.
That can mean anything.
thing. That's my only hobby actually. That could mean like you could be in
Goldshire. That could be running with a plus. You could be a Lord nerd. I don't
go I don't go out very much. Tell her about Bert. You walk every day. You're
like I walk two miles a day. Yeah but that's all I do is walk. Yeah what do you
go do? What do you go see? Do you take Bert on walks with you sometimes? Not
anymore. Not anymore but you used to have a collar for him right? Yeah it's a harness. Okay. So why do you why do you like
going for your walks? Why do you like going out every day? What do you do? It cures
depression that it does what do you go see it's my mental improvement it's about
the details titles about the details women remember details okay I'll remember
this probably actual but this meant I forget I've heard many things just you
need to breathe and we're gonna just only do fine dining and breathing okay it's
all I got gotta have you remember the small fork is the salad fork yeah the
big fork is the dinner form okay I got to pay for dinner right is there any way
that I could get it a 50 50 no I think I think look what's covering it you're
good oh it's true it's on the house a word you got a whole support staff around
you here to help you with your date yeah we can't talk for you so there's
no way that I can get her to 50 50 that's what happened last time I thought
that went pretty well ah they have to like really really really insist upon
on it. 90% of the time you're asking someone then you're also going on the date. But if
they insist or something like that what you do is you say well if you ask me out of a date
next time then you can pay for it or you can go 50-50.
Oh that's so smart.
Yeah.
Guys write that one down.
Yeah you say the 50-50.
You're like I'm not going 50-50 this time but if you want to go out again then
we can.
Oh yeah.
Forehead.
Forehead even.
Yeah.
Forehead.
Jack every time can confirm. Yeah, why do they call me El Riz? Did they type in chat Jack is the Rizzler? How?
guys I
Need help back me up. I'm trying to help you no no no no no I need people to be more confident than me
I feel like I feel like my I feel like the chess confidence in me is lacking. Yeah, I'm here
I'm here right now supporting you you want to come up with me. I'm afraid. I can't okay
Okay, I'm giving you your first steps in a larger world, guys.
Okay, so we have, we have in-ear things that you guys use for the morning show, yeah?
Check out me swooning and I'm a dude.
What if you fed me my lines?
I got a raid tonight.
I can't feed you the lines.
Sorry, man.
I feel like if you were a real one, you would.
I am a real one.
I'm spending the next two hours giving you advice.
Gosh.
Here, let's help you get some more inspiration to get that fit on.
Just mellowed out, take it easy, bring the nerves down a little bit.
Let's read some trance mocks.
Let's listen to some nice soothing sea shanty too.
I need a 21st man for my date.
Hey, Jasko, I'm crazy.
This is good.
I'm feeling pretty good.
Maybe we can get Max to read.
Oh, Karen.
Alright, you're going to compliment your clothes in three, two, one, go.
7.9.
Tell us you're going to want to talk here.
Oh, sorry.
4.
four. Listen you gotta be nice to chat okay because they're gonna rate your fit.
But they told me honesty is the best policy. She said do you like my outfit be honest.
What do you think of Carolina's transbucker? Huh? He said 8.3. Yeah. All right fair enough.
Thank you for your submission. She said does this do these pants make me look fat and I said no.
Okay. Let's start with the opening lines again here, Teddles. Let's do a little bit of a rewind.
Okay. You're going to the date. You're already there. Get there at least five minutes early, if not ten minutes early.
Oh, I'm a menace about getting there. I get everywhere early.
Wonderful. Next, you've got to start with a compliment.
Hold on. Before that, you're not the type that checks in way too early, right?
You don't need to be texting her like, I'm on my way right now. I'll be there in ten minutes.
I'm five minutes away. Don't do that.
Yeah, that's good call. That's a good call.
I'll see you there next time.
You get there 10 minutes early.
You make sure the table's ready.
You get waters for the table as well.
Set.
Yeah.
OK.
Then.
I'm at the table in the corner.
Then you see her walk in.
You stand up.
OK.
You make sure that you pull out the seat for her.
OK.
So shake her hand.
And then you give her like a quick tap hug.
Like a very light, like quick hello.
And then, you have a quick decision time.
You ever play those games with the...
A quick time event.
The quick time event.
That is when the quick time event is activated, Settles.
This is important, so stop laughing.
I'm not laughing, I'm thinking.
This is the most challenging part of the date.
Okay.
This is where you need to give a compliment,
but it needs to be enormously detail-oriented.
Okay.
And not obvious.
So I'm talking like earrings, feet, hair design.
No, not feet.
Stop, stop, stop, stop.
I think it's wrong.
There's ho-ringing.
Wrong.
Really good today.
Stop.
Nope.
Wrong.
OK.
This is, you've got to find the details.
So what did she work on?
Those are details.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no.
Eye contact.
OK.
Eye contact.
OK.
She put on some nice earrings.
Did she do something nice with her hair?
Is there something different than the photos of her?
OK.
Quick time event.
That's where you got to start it.
So, OK.
What about, hear me out.
You look so much different in person.
No!
Wrong!
Go back to start!
Back to the start!
Why not?
What if this were the other way around?
What if Zalatheff was asking you for data advice?
What advice would you give her?
You could do better.
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
What do you mean?
I'm trying to help here okay you got help me help you you're not helping I'm
trying you're not listening keep shooting out all my ideas listen son
oh man I left so much coffee this is so good though I'm glad that chat raised
$20,000 for me to go in the state hi I'm glad I'm able to help okay I'm glad
I made a lot of help oh god I'm so nervous
Those of you who are coming out absolutely no idea what we're talking about you guys were generous enough to donate
$20,000 to Santa Monica Animal Shelter Foundation and get titles a date with Zalatath. We met that goal
And we're just helping him through it right now. He's nervous
We're helping him out
Good job guys
Any Kalamazee what Kalamazee Kalamazee from the South he does have the Florida man Riz yeah, yeah
He might be a good day replacement this might wait what do you replace it? Hold on what I earned this
How did you earn this?
Very carefully. Oh, no
Collusion and begging mostly
Okay, this is a really important question. How tall are you?
Five nine. Oh, so you don't get the freak it got a gel freak. Yeah
It's okay, we can work with that.
What do you mean?
How do you feel about stilts?
I've never used them before, but I can try.
What if I just, what if you put me on your shoulders?
That'd be a little too tall.
We'd have to get a very long trench coat.
Stop typing 5-9-K-W.
Dude, I know man, I know, all right, let's relax for a second.
Oh man.
Round up to six feet.
I would just be straight-up lying.
I don't think you can round up five, nine to six feet tall.
Yeah, make sure when we get a table
that we're not getting a high top, OK?
You know, we don't want to have those high stools
or anything like that.
Could be a little tough if your feet aren't touching the ground.
Shut up.
OK, do we know what kind of restaurant we're going to?
Are we going to a steak place?
Don't worry.
I said earlier, like I'm not doxing.
OK.
What is she?
Is she a vegetarian?
Theoretically, let's say you're going to a steak place.
Do order a steak if you go to a steak place.
Don't go to a steak place and order apps.
Don't go to a steak place and order the salmon.
If you go to a steak place, get the steak.
How tall is Zalatath?
Anybody know?
She's an elf, so she's actually pretty tall.
She's a little.
Is it bad if she's taller than me?
I'm kind of into taller girls.
I mean, it's about your confidence, OK?
I got it.
My buddy at the gym?
I might be 5'9", but I got like 6'5 confidence.
No, that's what I'm saying.
Like, my buddy at the gym is 5'9",
but he has like a 6'5 personality.
an aura. Yeah, he has he has a very good aura. Alright, I'll tell us my aura. Shout
it to my buddy Devin. We're working on your aura. Okay, but yeah, but he just go talk
it up with anybody. Super friendly. Okay, but the biggest thing got listen titles. First
to me and then to her. What if I tell her about my OSRS maxed iron? That's like seven
save save it save her later. Okay, that comes up later in the conversation. Yeah,
I wouldn't open with that yet.
Not part of the opener.
Remember the quick time events.
My inferno PB, what about that? Should I tell her about my inferno PB?
Again, details later. You gotta start with her.
You gotta listen to her and what she's talking about.
I could buy you anything on the WoW auction house.
Nope, no, no, no. We're not trying to buy somebody.
You don't want somebody that has to be bought.
What about, I got a long boy, but not in game.
Can we get Kalamazzy for this?
Can we get Kalamazoo for this?
I felt like that was good.
Some things you don't tell, they are discovered later on.
You know, sometimes it's about what you don't say.
I would give up all of my earthly possessions for you.
No, we're not buying.
You bring something to the table, she brings something to the table, then you work.
Then you work out.
Okay, you have value as a man, you have value, okay?
I'm thinking.
You don't want to bend over backwards for anyone.
You don't want to compromise or...
What's the other word I'm thinking of?
No, you don't want to compromise yourself for someone.
Okay.
Yeah.
You talk, you listen, you smile, make good eye contact.
Have you tried practicing your smile?
There's a...
Okay, but that's a very happy smile.
That's a joyous smile.
Okay.
But you need to have a listening smile.
Okay?
Okay, think about that.
Little too much teeth.
That's a little too much.
A little too much teeth.
My mom always told me to smile with my teeth.
Give me like your lightest smile with eye contact, okay?
Like barely, you're looking at me like a piece of steak.
You're looking at me like a big hunk of steak.
Okay, that's the look that Kalamazzi's given food on the regular.
We need like a, I'm just listening and contentment.
I'm just enjoying being here.
Like that.
That's pretty good.
Like that.
Like that right there, okay?
Like that right there.
Don't do that, bro.
That's W-Aura.
Don't do that, bro.
I can do that, bro.
W-Aura.
Hello.
Okay.
W-Aura.
Okay.
That face right there would love to hear about the dream that she had last night, okay?
Would love to hear about her.
Oh, okay.
What about this?
Okay.
So I had a dream about you last night.
No.
Wrong.
No.
That's what you do on the third date.
That's for later.
We have a lot of time till we get to that point.
That's the third date.
You just, you're just jumping ahead, okay?
Listen, you can't skip through the lessons in the book
Guys, I think I'm ready. You're not ready yet
You're not ready yet. You're getting there. Okay. You haven't even gotten to get there post it yet
This is we got a lot of work to do
We have we have a lot of work to do that's true
Honestly depending on how long it takes for Zaltat to be like
Defeated in the story. I have a better literally do this every every tier until that happens
How do you feel about Transmog farming in Nailotha?
I have the skip unlocked.
Oh, wait a minute, we're cooking.
Hold on a minute.
We can skip the pit if we wanted to.
We're cooking.
That might be the most W-Risk thing you've said yet.
Yeah, I was going to say, he's cooking now.
That's right there.
Common interest, special access, show of determination and skill, okay.
We got that.
That's in progress.
Okay.
to work ramping okay love that that's a good one okay so let's talk about post
date let's say the date goes well yeah how long are you waiting texture that you
had a good time wait rewind give a look like as the date is wrapping up it's key
oh true okay so because if you have a location titles where there's other
things with the idea is you want to make sure there's location for
secondary activities ice cream shop I love dessert oh my god yeah ice cream
shop. We'll sorbet something like that, okay? You say, I know this place. It's going well.
I know this place. We can get a little bit of ice cream. Let's go for a little bit of
a walk, and then you get a chance to talk. We'll post it. If she's up for it, you go
hold her hand. How do you know if you're supposed to hold her hand or not, Jack? You
gotta just feel out the vibes. Is that production actually physically in pain from
listening to this conversation just now? I don't know. They seem to want us to
not talk about this and go to a monster energy listen in I don't know why I
give some secret tips behind this yeah I need more tips
describe it it's dangerous
okay Ruth's here reactor toxin soon try not to clear getting bounced and easy
wave dodge liquefied okay lines are roots and the lines the roots and the
lines and we're doing one more lines enter toxin that was insane we're
bouncing soon. Don't fucking die in this phase. Roots here.
Bouncing. Dodge waves, dodge waves. Second liquefied. Rooted into double lines.
Getting lines into toxin. Make sure if you haven't gotten toxin to be relatively loose
Lines now.
Nice.
Make sure orange on time, that's all.
Nice.
Now dodge waves, everybody.
Waves is hard here.
Dodge waves, dodge waves.
Lines 3, 2, 1, dodge lines, and liquefy
in 3, 2, green circle move.
Good.
On there.
A.U.E. Roots.
3rd position for electricity in depth 1.
Yeah.
A Reactor Toxin, we're good.
And we're getting rooted in 3, 2, 1, now.
Nice lines of lines in 321 big lines here
We're getting bounced in three seconds stars popping in 3 2 go nice and dodge waves now dodge waves dodge waves
Dodge waves and don't stack when the space starts you leave each other
Hey, you're not stuck up getting sucked in 3 2 1 now
Good blast. Hey watch waves now waves waves waves waves waves waves we're getting stuck soon
We're absolutely shitting on the shield just fucking live
This live that's it
Resnick watch people watch waves debuffs waves waves waves waves waves
Yeah, yeah, it's okay. Go to your spots mark kicks
My true big boy. We're late. We're late. Watch the swirly's big boys. Thanks. You ready for dispells
Let the tanks call it now the spell
Good watch people debuffs now beating the next one easy and just fucking fine. Just watch healing here
Also on health on the next minute if you're in danger. Good. Boomi and Renako first. Last year,
members healers are the third people on this platform. Kill the ex-guys. Bait the beam. Nice.
Getting sucked on this side in 2-1. Clear to spell on Renako. Good. Make sure to external
people who are going through. Shack and Dazer. Finish the expeller. It's dead on this side.
Nice. We're getting sucked. The Guardian. Three and Dryne are going here, but we're done, right?
I feel like we have had a little bit of an issue, sometimes this tier where people that
are playing devokers just don't take care of the slow people when we are moving.
Surely someone had a like a rescue here when we're walking up the stairs. You have a priest and you sign me just assign it right?
It's hard to look at everything
Okay, so we asked for a shit on the damage check, right?
Yeah, we can't sign there by the way like that. He'll never make it to that portal
Okay, so fired up in drnaco all the the problem is all the rain's drawn this side because we're about to get the ads
So I need to see a pub on scott's there. I'm assuming that
How the fuck do I get out of a clip? Yeah, okay? Here we go
So I'm assuming you guys should have stopped that knockback
I feel like I was even flowering up back, but not quite. I mean, I should have just folk in it
But I mean just
Dude killing the beam guy first was legit. That was nice
Nice that looks sick. Okay
Uh, Shaq and Dazergo, we're absolutely pissing on these ads.
Okay.
Oh, yeah, I mean, how long until you guys get gripped here?
Oh, ah!
Ehhhhh...
You're not, you're not, you're not clicking that. That's just...
I don't know if you saw, but I did place it like a gate there, you could take it at the cast and you won't get fly away.
If you're like scared...
Could we have this bell to stick before that?
Yeah, we did, I think.
No, he still has it. He's six seconds left, he's had it for... he's just been sitting in the corner.
Oh, but...
He comes over while we get the rest, so we can't just call them, otherwise we just get killed.
Ideally you beat it, but there's a gate there.
I don't know if you can see me, but when I came out of the portal, there was an orb right on my spot on the right, and I didn't take damage from it.
You get an immunity.
I instantly went right, yeah, and you...
Okay, we did this perfectly though. Like this this was insane. We should just do this every time they looked easiest
Look, you guys shit on the ad to and then we all this on Skullside was it a bow?
I
Mean look at the clip at length in the channel. I'm pretty sure about is before I took it
I got the healer glue and give up and then when I took the portal
I it refreshed the debuff and I think the old one like exploded on itself or some shit
We should probably just
Yeah
They didn't even make it up the ramp before it disappeared.
Yeah, we do need to assign clickers.
The people that can immune themselves.
The driny... what happened?
It's coming up on me with the next one.
I feel like if you get that second rest, it's already done.
Healers are there, the healers are deep off as well, so...
So watch right here.
He's deep off, instantly explode.
Refreshed and then... I don't know.
Okay, so, well, healers can't go on the...
We beat so now we know we do two platforms to portals in the first platform, right? So we can
Move those people I
Mean yeah, we mean we can't have healers go through there. It doesn't work
Our tanks are going to be there, but they won't have speed on
Yeah, no tanks can go there changing I'm gonna move drinian Suri
is there any DPS any side there that feels not relevant for that shield ad nope
everyone has CDs okay it doesn't matter and I don't know much for it but on the
speed on that side so you would have going through yeah do you think with
comfortability we'd be tech-dressed yes
because it's probably a cluster and then well that full I had a full arcane
search with spy master and I usually don't send that they're all okay so
we're definitely going to get it then without less you know I still think we
lost the information by the way pretty sure I didn't mean to be in P2 I meant
P2 I think he's talking about the third rest to be to the second one on that
first one form I was talking about the first platform oh yeah you did send
and I won't ever have to go there.
Interchange the note in-game at this far.
Yeah.
Portal people.
In that case, like, if you're not going to normally have that,
then I would lust to beat it, because if we're planning to get it...
Do you link the new portals, Max?
Am I using what?
Do you link the new portals?
Yeah, yeah, I can.
I just put Impec and Malarkas at the end of the first platform
or beginning of the second, whichever one happens.
You should just put them in the P2 channel?
Yeah, it's it's in the p2 channel um and joining stereo just be going at the end again. Okay. Uh one one thing the uh, um
Oh, yeah, so melee side I
Need two people to be able to click for that rest if we're gonna ever beat it
This locks work for both sides one side is looking
Are you getting sucked on that rest no, it'll be on the upside
I can deal them with time-spiral some time during that phase that we live and I could just pre-camp it
What do you want to spiral?
Well our time-spiral is assigned in PT right now
So we also are lacking like a good event to assign it as in that actually triggers correctly like so
Oh, that's a problem
What do we do to fix that? Is that a big thing?
That could be a big thing like
Yeah, I mean we need to get that fixed like fucking projio
It probably doesn't mean they could tie the group show on the list
They probably were on the second half
Hey, so that was fucking the first head. I don't know that it sounds like we're lacking events in P2 or something for
The reminder I don't go to P2 right now. I know for what timing
Well, we just want like all the rest timers like to be dynamically working
Can't you just do it out of tune to the first assignment custom?
Rest is kind of shitty because it resets when you click to create the bridge and there's no way to tell when that happens.
Yeah, but you could at least get the rails and rest timers to when you kill the ad and come to the platform, right?
And you would at least have, then there would be correct score?
Well, yeah, by the way, this is a pass for a piss by the way this I told you this shit wasn't scary
This shit has five seconds left and we like everyone dead and we fucking beat it. We literally beat it
By the way, someone should take serious guys while we're not using second P.I. at this right now
No, we are it's just the pull what you're looking at because I should all be under knocker, you know
Yeah, I agree check. Yeah, I don't think it's top of the
Like our clouds are super bad right now as a read-out from what it sounds like we have everything on the second platform and nothing
I knew worlds that sounds really stupid
Well, DK there in an awkward spot. We don't have to worry in someone map out shit right now
I want to see like a cool down timeline of when people are using
That would be really helpful
Why does everyone have their CDs on this platform specifically?
I mentioned this one too much.
Okay.
Who who can use CDs on the first platform?
I can, but I do the portal with the rest, which takes up all that.
That's that's bad.
Okay.
You need to fix that.
If I use something on first thing.
It is like one later.
What'd you say, Mark?
I said if I did his portal would be fine.
It would do it.
at the end of the platform or the beginning of the second,
Dazer?
Oh, it's at the beginning of this,
at least it was that time, it was beginning of the second.
Oh, what?
They said, would your cooldowns be good
if you swap with more of them later?
No, the problem is I have cooldowns for every platform.
I have cooldowns every 30 seconds.
When are you popping your cooldowns in the platform?
On that one, I'm not at all
because they're coming up
right when I'm going through the portal.
Okay. When would you ideally use your cooldowns if you were trying to move your portal around so you can use your cooldowns on the S?
Yeah. I think Marcus fixed it.
I mean, he said that his cooldown is so short, he's gonna have to suck it, it's one time it sounds like.
Yeah, no matter what, pretty much. I'm sacked.
Isn't the one Marcus doing? Like the second one, so you're just swapping kinda... isn't that bad for you?
Like I was doing the one you're doing now basically and that was literally made plus for me. So
I don't know how long yours is
10 seconds
Pretty much when you're going right now everyone's cooldowns are up on the second
So we need to maximize as many who are naturally getting it up on the first of school
Which it sounds like too many too many buses will never get it up with these timings even if they used on cool
On that would be okay. That's fine before and I think you just want days are in market and days of good sense
And that's that's what I'm trying. Yeah, that's what I think makes sense. Yeah, right change that
I can also blow up first platform, but I will do way less of the shield
I think that's fine. I don't think that matters because blowing up the first platform gives us more time on the shield
Yeah, it's all right. Yeah, I'm at the boss intermission shield rather
That thing's getting smoked with last at least but
I think it gives CDR to someone and that also have a two-minute class have cool on snap platform at our current timings
P2 portal order has changed again. We need to update the note
What'd you say boomie my cooldowns are also up on the first platform, but like I there's no way I can use them with hot
I'm going through them currently
Okay
to the dragon's care at all when they go
I want the dragons on the second platform so they can they can hit the the accolades on the side
So the the right side on that picture is is like the right side plus turn echo and shack and
Impact are gonna be hitting the accolades minus taser malarcus and do me. That's why I'm sending to me across could just have like
I mean, I guess I just need a rain. I need like a
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know who to
Yeah, like if I don't send there then I'm holding for the second one.
No, no, no, you have to send there, saying like, I don't know who we can send.
Like if we could just have one less ranged and the second platform for the Acolytes,
I guess.
And maybe that's fine.
So we could send like one of the evokers through, evokers when you guys have cooldowns.
They won't come up until the next one, like the third platform, because they're
like 15, 20 seconds up on Robin Earth.
dude that's so fucking annoying I think like you have short two minutes that
like over from loaded I think you if we remove last term into mission actually
play out for the mission thinking and have it on that platform like five
seconds for right now we're like 10 over 10 seconds to fast
mid mission right drump and we just not send Monday so I also don't know is
Is it even good to have cooldowns on a platform?
Yes, we can beat the addresses which would be massive, right?
But the second platform is the same, you get more time by killing the first platform.
Anyone who can possibly use cooldowns on the first platform should, that is great.
You want to send on send?
Yes, you want to send on send?
Yeah, I'm just saying that when you beat the shields, the only time you currently have the time is when everyone is getting a deal from Boils.
the last boss castle and start until you go to the third public yeah I just need
to figure out how to move boomy and I don't know how to do it was excellent
you see this on first yeah yeah yeah but boomy can't because he's a really bad
portal right now so I need to like move arranged on the skull side early on
the first platform I mean yeah you can just move in a vocal gas yeah but
I think you guys are gonna blast the Acolyte.
Well, we don't know. We haven't really done that.
We need you to get your cooldowns off before the second portal on the platform.
Checking the mode.
I mean, I linked the image on the first platform, and I was mis-sending CDs.
Bladestorm will not be ready on first, but everything else but Bladestorm.
And it's kind of bad to pop CDs without Bladestorm.
But I don't know what's the best, actually.
Because the mob just jump away instantly, just one target without bladestorm, so our cities are not that strong then.
The second, if I was the second it would not be ideal, but it would be better, like I wouldn't be wasting like 40% of my cooldown.
But as we do saying like we're not that strong on two targets.
And they're not even stacked for half to the meter, and bladestorm is not ready, like I did.
But maybe we should send anyways because we already have a second platform I think but we're not everyone should send on cool down in that
Face yeah, yeah, but holding a cool down for the second platform is totally missing the point if you can send it early
With glass with two minutes to do the most time is not platform because we can make one person have series no no
It I just I can't I still can't figure out what to do to me. You just walk me and boom
You know just walk websites when I go to spot
Yeah, that works
That doesn't change any kick rotations or anything except for the kick rotation that I posted earlier for the beginning of p2
Where did I post this and stretch channel green you kick needs me and settle it
Yeah, I was a second on the problem with that is you can have two rallies on the same side for the same platform
If I don't know right at least for that part of it. Yeah, okay
Also second kick
uh okay here the uh yeah we need to change whatever the fuck this week or is i'll just put it in answer
act that just needs to be changed to lip is now on moon add and me is now on the triangle add so
just swap lip and boomie right there's still second kick yeah just swap lip and boomie in the note
and then swap the note for portals as well uh zebby and then whenever you're done with that
that we can pull.
Uh, like you can move now.
Like you lift the second on moon, do me a second on triangle.
They swap with each other.
And then for the...
What's the picture here?
Huh?
That's five.
The picture...
Where do you put the picture for the thing?
For the portals?
Yeah.
Sure, yeah.
And we depend on mission astronaut.
So do we want to do any of that?
No.
The thing you link for, right?
It's supposed to be orange, not skull.
I
In Queen I took like the kick
There's no skill. I'll call is the side
Okay, is it?
That's not true, right?
Star orange right? Yeah
Yeah, it's probably just because initial ones were assuming it was one I collect on each side. Yeah. Yeah, so it's starting or
It should be whatever my big works is set up to, because I should be the one marking them to peace.
Yeah, I made it, so just like it's always orange for both of you in case you like swap sides or whatever.
That was a pretty interesting listen, very raceful first ask where they're talking about moving a lot of offensive CEs,
making sure that they have more and more offensive cooldowns available for the platforms
and trying to be able to continue to see progression.
We are currently at about the 65-ish percent mark on Queen Ancirec Prague, but that health is going to
Mostly stay static all the way up until we are able to reach the final phase
Yeah
We started hearing them talk about what the specific plan is to try to maximize damage in the intermission because look we were talking about beforehand
There are just back-to-back to back damage checks that you're trying to hit in this section of the fight first damage check the shield
They are you already heard them talking about it. That's going to get obliterated as long as they have all 20 players alive
They're not too worried about that second damage check starts the second you're out of that shield phase when the ad spawn
Those shield eyes on the second platform spawn with one HP, but with a 70 million shield
You don't break you have to break that shield to interrupt their cast
And that leads you to the third part of the fight once you break those cast and go up to the third
platform the boss will start channeling on the upper platform
Both groups need to go to the third platform
DPS down their third at which share HP between themselves. Yeah, so that's how everyone gets knocked up at the same time
And then you have a bit of free damage time on the boss while that cast finishes up in order to start the final phase
I feel like you heard them say damage matters at all points in that phase. Absolutely. I
Think I think liquid's actually been doing very very well on this boss all things considered
We really didn't know what we were kind of kind of expect with Queen answer
after we watched Nexus Princess and Brew Twister be just so hard.
Silicon Court was no pushover boss either.
And so Queen Ancerek, the damage check on this fight
could be incredibly real towards the end of the fight.
It's something that there's a lot of unknowns
with the final phase as well,
how the portal mechanic is going to be working
in the final phase.
I could see a lot of nonsense happening with that mechanic,
but I think that Liquid right now
are in an excellent position.
And we just saw, they actually beat that shield
in their last pull there,
where they would have beat it
with very few people left alive.
So it's not that tough of a jet damage check
It's just a matter of assigning cooldowns at the right moment making sure you have the right people going through portals
So they're not randomly swapping platforms in the middle of their cooldowns
Which will not only offset the amount of damage on each platform
But just you know kind of disorient to having to go through a portal in the middle of your cooldowns and then swapping targets
Even though you can charge just losing up time losing valuable damage
So they're trying to find players outside of their cooldowns that won't lose too much damage won't offset the platforms
to go through the portals at the right time.
But again, just like it is in every in-fight, Phase 1 is everything, especially on this encounter,
like he identified earlier.
Probably one of the hardest phases in the encounter.
The massive amount of burst damage coming out on every single set of these froths,
making sure they have enough buttons to get themselves out of those web chambers
as well, every single time.
And then of course the entire time, just positioning requirements, making sure you're
not taking up too much of the platform so you leave yourself enough room in the
intermission. Additionally, something that we noticed was that there was a mass migration
from racials, right? A lot of people swapped from their optimal damage ratio to gnome,
a very infrequently used ratio for honestly any PVE content. Whenever you think of PVE content,
typically the best races are like war for nelf more often than not. You sometimes can see some
some other niche stuff, use goblins, like not too bad.
But what Gnome does is it has an ability called escape
harness, which is a one minute CD, and it removes you
from movement and parrying effects, like roots.
And obviously, as you see on this fight a lot,
there are a ton of roots.
And so being able to be able to get out of those
movement and parrying effects, that's a big deal.
So we had basically as many players as we reasonably
could swapping to that gnome.
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we're all good here I think it might have just been his PC but you know you
can hang out with us for the time being we're talking about important
things like getting titles ready for his date with Zelotath I think I'm
I'm ready.
I'm feeling pretty good.
Alright, I love that for you.
I think Chat thinks you're ready too.
Just don't give her the Ick.
You'll be fine.
I think I'm prepared.
Alright.
That's going to be fun.
Rise and grind.
Yeah, we're finally seeing a little bit of progress throughout the day.
And it's nice to see.
Obviously, this is going to be a very tough fight when all of a sudden done.
The boss doesn't have that much HP, right?
It's actually really similar to Kavessa.
In terms of the amount of HP it has.
I think this is really kind of come down to just maximizing damage in phase one
And then just living as long as possible in phase three if there's a hardened rage on this encounter
I'd be kind of surprised it seems like it's going to be more of a mechanics overlap check in the last phase
You you're running out of space in the last phase. Yeah, there's like ground effects and stuff like that in the last phase
We're on heroic and normal. It's basically a situation where if you make it to that final phase
You're basically killing the boss
But for Mythic, I somehow suspect that it's not going to be that simple.
Yeah, also, as with every end boss, there's always kind of the question, do we think there's going to be a Mythic phase?
The last time they did a Mythic phase was Jailer, right?
They didn't really do it for Sarkarath, they didn't really do it for Farak, and they didn't really do it for Razigath.
Do we think there's a chance that they pull one out for a mean answer right here?
I mean the the hurricane counter is pretty short. It's like eight minutes
There's definitely room for it
That's an interesting prospect
And like I feel like that final phase leaves open a lot of room for that kind of thing
I've talked about this before I think that final phase reminds me the most of a Gul'dan final phase
Where it's kind of like just the difficulty is in the different overlaps of mechanics to get not necessarily in the individual difficulty of them alone
So I think there's definitely some possibility of that being a thing.
I actually like this new mechanic that we've seen.
You see right here with that wave expanding.
I think that it's actually one of the most unique mechanics that we've seen from an encounter in a long time.
More often than not, there's only so many mechanics that are used in World of Warcraft on boss fights,
and they kind of recycle some.
Because there's only so many ways that you can do soak, circle, right?
But I think that this new wave mechanic that they've introduced on Ansarik and how players are having to jump over it looks
visually very cool
Yeah, it's definitely interesting using the z-axis in a way that hasn't really been used before for a mechanic
Normally z-axis abilities and wow are a little inconsistent
But it looks like this one's been done really well, and I think it's a cool concept to deal with making sure people have to
Cascade into the middle of the boss couch that Nova
I like the way that it kind of forces positional requirements.
This is the big overlap of the phase that we usually see the most deaths on if they do occur.
Barbs is at every length.
He is using blink.
He's alter blinking just to make sure he can get out of there, specifically not using the
altar on this set so he can save it for the first rest of this intermission phase
here.
It looks like everyone's over.
We have one death on Shaqib, on big poppy there.
No battle risk.
So we're going to be 19 men in this intermission, but we've seen before.
They've been prog lusting this in order to get through the shield.
not lusting this time around, saving that because they think they have enough people alive and
enough damage to do it. So let's see how it goes with one person down and no lust.
I think it's, if they think it's doable then I suspect that it's going to end up being doable.
It's very likely that they're going to be looking to press that, oh they actually
do end up sending that lust to try to be able to get through the shield. This is a 700
million health shield for the record. Pressing the lust during this shield phase is basically
0 damage gain to the boss which is long term pretty bad but obviously in the short term
for being able to see progression it makes sense that they're full sending that lust
on this intermission.
And it's also a good purpose lust.
They still have 20 seconds of the lust left which means it's going to transition into
the second damage check that starts right now.
You can see those two boss adds on the far right side of Gumi's UI here.
They have spawned, they are casting that Cataclysm spell that if it goes off, if
you don't break the shield, it's essentially an insta wipe.
Oh my god, people are going off.
Oh, he's good.
He's good.
And the little rescue gets him back on the platform.
Yeah, people flew off.
It looks like Riku and Atlas also both got...
Second portal's going through, so we don't get exploded.
There's going to be just the spells coming out.
Doing a lot of burst damage to everybody.
Got to heal that up.
I think we're good to go still.
A couple more deaths, but still able to get through to the second platform here.
So, we're going to get through to the second platform.
I think we're good to go still a couple more deaths, but still able to get through to the second platform here
How much time do we have left on that cast right now? It cannot be a lot
Looks like on another POV that we have 25 seconds. Okay 25 seconds
Not quite sure they're gonna be able to do it
So there's actually a really interesting overlap of cooldowns here two minutes are coming up around this time of the fight
Which also means mad queens mandates are gonna be coming up at this point of the fight
These adds that have the shield on top are at 1 HP. They are at the smallest
percent of HP, which means those Mad Queen mandates are going to do
maximum value here. So on a full, if they pop those mandates here, they
should be able to burst through that shield. It's not going to happen here with
this many people dead, but that's actually kind of an interesting thing
they've done with using a piece of loot that drops from the boss to make the
boss a little bit more trivial. It's kind of cool. But we've seen, yeah,
That DPS check is difficult in its own right, but also just keeping the players alive through those debuff dispells is nasty
Unfortunately, I guess chat doesn't believe
What is this? I just noticed that there was a poll it said will tell succeed in his date in
67% of people said absolutely not
Well, hold on. What would you define as a success second date tonight second date? Yeah, is that the only only line of success?
Uh...
South has a busy woman, man.
She's got things to do.
Maybe she wouldn't have time for a second date, even if the date went perfectly.
I could be under her control for eternity, and I would probably also testify that this
is success.
You would not say that during the date.
Why not?
It's just not a good thing to do, man.
Too desperate.
Too desperate.
Forever's a long time, Zyro.
It is.
It would be kind of nice.
It probably would be.
So most people get divorced after a couple of years
Or and I could be together forever. Is it a couple of years? I don't know the average was like 10 years a few years. Oh
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Let's get out of the OSRS.
So basically, what do you think is going on with the Prague here?
I feel like we've actually been seeing fairly steady progression over the course of the entire day.
It seems like it's just a decent amount of problem-solving still.
You know, they'll take, I would say, 10 minutes, strap breaks,
where they have to discuss where they're moving their offensive Cs,
and making sure that they have enough damage for each and every single portion of this boss.
Yeah, and also people getting used to their movement in this phase,
The timing of the pops, the placement of the froths for each individual set is something they're going to use too as well.
Even just the movement for the marks, you can see he fired up position in here. It's pretty set up.
He's got to save the blink to get rid of this particular route, get back to where he was to be in the frost circle as well.
Every single player has to figure out their particular way of surviving this.
The gnome helps a lot with that. It helps you have an extra root immune, and you can see they also have to make sure they time this perfectly.
Oh, Jernak are going down?
So that the pops are spread out enough that they don't wipe the raid?
But oh, they just barely get over the venom nova.
We do have a death of two deaths.
Like you mentioned, two deaths now, one on Jernakko.
And I believe, yeah, there's an angel there.
Is Seren in the town where you can get a res off?
That would be quite useful.
Probably going to be a lot.
Oh, another death.
Two more deaths.
All right, that's all I'm saying.
It's going to be a wipe.
Probably wrap it up.
But they might keep going so people can get more familiar
with how to hit their cooldowns in this phase
and get the max value out of them in the second air mission.
Although with more players going down in the center
going to get harder and harder to get through.
It's just so rough, dude.
The addition of the webbing on the ground
is actually so mean for this mythic phase.
Just remove so much of your room
to spread out in this intermission.
We did meet the third rest, though,
even with this many people dead.
That's not bad.
Damage is good, man.
I think the damage is okay,
to be able to continue to progress fight.
They did pop lust, which isn't awesome,
But I see how it's possible.
I think that...
Do you worry that that intermission right there is going to be inconsistent for all of progression?
Because they keep having the Panix send lust on it.
I don't know if they're Panix sending lust on it, or they're just late-lusting so they can get value on this shield plus the second intermission.
Yeah.
I think that's the play right now. I think that's what they're probably doing.
We'll see if that's the case.
I mean, there's always the possibility that later on once they're more familiar with this face that they end up having to move
to something that gives them boss damage instead.
But for the time being, just learning more of the fight is really important.
They need to see more of that second phase.
They need to see into phase three.
They need timers.
They need to understand how the fight works.
Okay, I've been cooking on this date a little bit.
What about?
I saw what you did with Dalaran.
That was impressive.
That could flop or it could hit.
What about 5050 in there with that?
Hold on, let me think.
Do you want a coin flip your date?
You could turn me into Dalaran.
No, that's a little weird.
Oh, okay, sorry.
That's a zero percenter.
Okay, alright.
Okay, I'll go back.
The first one though is a coin flip, which is not bad.
Alright, I'll take that, yeah.
What do you think, Chad? Would that one have worked?
It's like it could come on too strong, but also maybe...
She would like that.
Could be good.
Yeah.
Alright, I'm a big fan of your work.
Plus, Ian has a ghost as well, Todd.
Well, not an accident, it was on purpose, I should know what to say!
And then Dreadnest's awkward self also said the same thing about 10 minutes later.
So both of him and I are terrible.
We saw him at BlizzCon, and I immediately go up to him and I go,
Are you a fan of your work?
It was really awkward.
And then Dreadnest said the same thing, he was like, also a fan of yours?
So at least he knew who I was.
Really weird to be done, I guess.
Oh, Ian's actually like, pretty hardwired in the community. He knows a lot about streamers and stuff, which is kind of crazy.
You'd think he wouldn't have any time for that. But he's pretty into the high-end scene.
I guess that kind of comes with what his position was before being the leader of the encounters team.
He's pretty invested in the raid scene, and probably Mythic Plus as well.
Oh my gosh, it sounds like we have some pets to be showing off.
And of course, you can also get your pet rated as well if you go to...
I'm not rated, but now you can show off your pet as well if you go to
TL.gg slash rdbf-donate or you can get your transmog rated.
We were raising money for the Santa Monica Animal Shelter.
Can I pet that doll?
Why are you guys all like this?
This is Mochi.
Moki.
Mochi.
Mochi.
Mochi.
Ah, yes.
Submitted by B.
B.
B.
What kind of doll is this?
Is that not just a husky?
No.
I don't know.
It's a bulldog.
I don't care.
I thought it was an English bulldog.
Yoshi.
Submitted by Waffle Tucker.
Oh my gosh.
Hello.
He's got all his wrinkles.
So it was a Samoyed.
That's what it is.
Yeah, that's the fame.
I don't know.
Breeds very well.
This guy's got those wrinkles on his face.
I bet he has a hard time breathing.
A little cutie.
Like all of his bulldogs.
It's not his fault.
It's his form that way.
Yeah, all bulldogs have a tough time breathing.
Natural.
We're on the donations by the way.
they want to shout out we had a 208 dollar from anonymous earlier
no no pet no mug
no no oh Chris said somebody adopt poor Simba
good luck to all the racers thanks to the casters being so entertaining
thank you for the massive donation to anonymous which I knew who you were but
of course
you want to stay anonymous so thank you thank you so much
we're continuing on with some some progression here
It's pretty steady, I actually think, where you watched a lot of fights this tier and there
would be just points of the fight.
I think it's specific with Maxis Princess as well, where they were just kind of gambling
away at pulls and whatnot, but I think that this fight, you're seeing pretty steady
progression.
What do we think about THD with the hood up?
It looks like Darth DHD.
This is THD at his maximum power right now.
Still can't see his eyes, unfortunately.
That's just how it goes.
He's just looking at the bottom of the screen.
He's not sleeping, trust.
I think his eyelids are just mint.
He's just min-maxing his amount of muscles he's using for his eyelids.
Yeah, yeah he is.
Do they call it eyelid-maxing?
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Eye-maxing.
Yeah, okay.
Good point.
See, I'm getting hit with a Zoomer lingo.
Oh, did um, did Jack tell you about mewing?
I still don't really know what a mewing is, but I got told by cams that his wife was gonna
mog on me one time.
Oh, yeah that's pretty-
But I don't really understand what he meant by that.
Ah, yeah it's brutal.
Another wipe, did we just have- yeah this doesn't happen that often, but it's something
that has happened enough to where it's causing these wipes every now and then of course
that debuff that you gain from popping one of the froths, it gives everyone a one
second debuff if you pop another frost within that one second it's just gonna
instantly wipe you so you have to actually kind of plan out the position of your
frost so that everyone can slowly get over the wave at different times at
least a second apart. I feel like we're gonna be able to see into the last phase
tonight. I think it's a very real possibility. I think it's got a massive
food buff coming in from Heidi with the Dragon Slayer special tonight we
We got some mashed potatoes, we got some braised beef, some sort of veg, it's going to be great.
They'll be able to use that to power through to an insane pull.
We would like to see phase three, we'd like to see some progression.
Honestly, I don't think it's that big of a loss if you don't see it because at the
same time, you know, at this point on this boss, you know, one of Dash's questions
last night, which were fantastic.
I don't know if you watched the match.
I was watching, yes.
That was great.
I'm always watching.
introspective questions for Max and
One of them was about gathering information between the guilds if you see phase three tonight
You're giving echo a whole bunch of extra information to progress with tomorrow and their rate day starts pretty soon now
I think we're starting at five every day this week
Hi, are they starting by the day? No, they start about like seven. Do they only start?
Yeah, they only start at five on like the first day then they start like seven for every following day
So we'll start in like three or four hours from now, something like that?
Let's have to push the red really far, which in that instance it will start like nine for a time.
Any information you gain as liquid right now is going to be free information for ECHO when they start.
That is an insane merge of the names, but okay.
It is information for both of them and that's something you have to think about.
It's not that big of a deal if you don't see it, you'd like to see it for your information obviously because we're on the final boss now.
We don't have any other splits to do. We're at our max gear. We're just locked in on this boss until it dies.
There's only so much playing from behind that you can necessarily do here without just being at a disadvantage, right?
Yeah, exactly. We want to keep the lead. That's what we want to do, right?
Absolutely.
Liquid's been playing from ahead for almost the entire tier. There was maybe a few hours on Silkencourt where they weren't in the lead.
I think there was maybe an hour on Nexus Princess where they weren't in the lead, but Liquid's been playing from the advantage position for the entire tier,
which is not always true. Normally, there's this slingshot effect where you will wake up, they'll do some prog, they'll do half their day while NA's asleep, and then NA will wake up and they're behind.
And so that's been fairly true for the past couple of tiers the liquid has been playing great
They just need to really make sure they're able to close it out here. Yeah, that's a good point a lot of the tiers where they sort of
Start falling behind our tiers that bosses are in a weird spot or need to be fixed and they spent the first couple of hours
You know
Pulling the boss that wasn't necessarily like ready for a kill something like a Dathia or like a Razageth intermission
But there hasn't been a lot of that this this tier everything's been working perfectly
The balancing hasn't been too off.
Nexus Princess, obviously, was a little difficult, but it was still killable, so it's not something
you can really complain about.
So yeah, this has been a great tier, and Liquid's played well, too.
But the thing is, Echo and Method have both kept it very close.
We're not, like, comfortably in the lead.
You still have to play well and make progression every single day.
Impact?
Not on the froth circle.
That was, uh...
Interesting.
A bit unfortunate.
Didn't actually go over the go over the wave. So I ended up getting hit by the wave and going down. He does I
Think he got battle res there
I don't think he ought oh lust has been pressed as well as saying dates are amicule go down and I suspect that this is just
Yeah, other wife basically you have to have all 20 players alive for
For that intermission phase
Where you're killing off all those ads we cannot be losing people there
This is the thing that's tough about this part of the fight the first minute and a half are relatively tame
There's not a lot of damage going out. You're splitting the froth between
two groups of ten players and then three groups of six or seven players. When you get down to the four groups of five,
you're taking a lot of damage from all of those fraught breaks.
But in addition to that, you have to plan out your CD usage so that number one,
you have enough to live through this intermission phase. Every single one of these
weaves that pulls you into the boss is a ton of damage. Not to mention the ticking damage start at the phase is pretty insane.
Yeah, and that doesn't really let up. When you get into phase two, every single dispel is like 70% of everyone's HP.
It's a tough fight that restability is pretty pretty brutal all things considered
It's especially brutal for a couple of specific classes like I
Honestly think that the tanks probably have a pretty tough job on this fight
Yeah, but Yip's having that transcendence allows him to you know pretty much stay in position whenever he wants to being able to support back and forth
Scott you know
She's got wall church. Mm-hmm, but it's not great. It's not ideal
But I just have it. So I don't know. It's gonna be tough. Basically Yps and Scott are gonna have a lot of work to be doing on this fight
And I think this is one of the situations where all 20 players are just gonna have to be super locked in for the entire entirety of progression
As you would expect for a final boss, right? It's one of those where the positioning is super important every single moment has to be planned out
But again, I'm gonna keep likening this back to the fight that I feel like this is the most similar to this really reminds me of a
slightly more difficult Sarkarath, right? This is a encounter that doesn't really
change much. Everything you can do is extremely planned out. You have very
choreographed movement, it's just a very tough healing and damage check, and you
have to come up with a perfect amount of damage cooldowns and healing cooldowns to
live through the bursts that happens, essentially from that final froth for
the next two and a half minutes until you get to phase three. But then again
you're also in a mythic final phase when that starts, so who knows if it
even lets up there. I'm actually kind of scared of what things they can start to add in that
final phase. Like what more could they add to that phase to make it more difficult, more
bombs on the adds?
I mean, first off, the check isn't hard during Heroic or Normal, so I think that that's
a place that it could actually start off on.
How much? You okay?
What did I just watch?
If he stopped the second he got off camera. Okay, whatever. You weren't on camera,
man.
Um, anyways, answering your question, I think that first and foremost, they could start by having the damage check be non-trivial.
Um, yeah.
I think that they could, we could see a secret phase or, you know, secret mechanics that aren't illustrated in the dungeon journal.
I think that those are still on the table here.
Yeah.
I think that secret phase seems less likely, but I do think that an additional mechanic could be...
...within reason here.
Yeah, it's definitely one of those things that's never out of the cards.
People would be like, you know,
but some people ask me a question
when we brought this up earlier,
wouldn't they just datamined that?
Blizzard has been pretty good recently
about encrypting data they don't want you to see.
So there are a couple of ways.
First and foremost, yeah, like you say,
the spells just could be encrypted
that were used for the final phase mechanics
and those wouldn't be datamined.
Alternatively, they could just be uncategorized.
So what Blizzard normally does
is they normally categorize spells
and attribute them to a boss.
But there's a lot of things
that are just uncategorized by Blizzard
And sometimes they can, and that's what happened with like the Jailer secret phase stuff, is that those weren't encrypted, they were just a bunch of un-categorized spells that mentioned mechanics that were, you know, assumed to be by the Jailer, but you never really knew where those spells would be attached to, and so, you know, that's kind of why it was assumed that there was going to be a secret phase, but it wasn't known by any means.
This doesn't look like there's a secret phase from data mining, but you you never truly know
I would certainly be very surprised if there was one because we haven't really had any real I think I think mechanics are on the table
I think a phase is maybe a little bit off the table
Yeah
Here we go final froth of the phase. This is the quad pop up. This is good
P bars healthy fired up dropping a little bit low gotta keep an eye on those players who have the big green circles
The ones that pop those four froths
Unfortunately, Sevi does go down. That's one of their healers. No battle res for him.
They actually, they just used it on him, so no further battle reses in the phase.
You can see Yip's doing his absolute best job to give the rest of his raid as much room as possible.
He's not too worried about the ticking damage of this phase.
Go ahead and drop his web off in previous void zones to give the melee more room to spread out.
Seri does go down. I think he was in the Angel form before, so it's not too surprising.
it's not okay so on some bosses it's catastrophic if you lose a healer if you
can get through this phase here with with the healer down
we might be able to see actual progression yeah it just comes out to
whether or not you can see you gotta get through this side oh gosh i think we're
going to be wiping they beat it they beat it they beat it
um yeah they beat it but we're dead they're dead to the webs
yes you gotta be you gotta go a little fast so we missed the we missed the
Check on the room filling up there without lust, but it wasn't so far off that it's unwinnable.
Yeah, you're right, they did opt to just not use the lust at all there.
We might be able to win that in the future.
I think more pulls, more comfortability, 20 players, 11-7-19.
This is a very real possibility of just being able to one-bing that phase without lust,
which is something they're gonna have to, we think they're going to have to do that
eventually. Oh, absolutely. The Prague lust is very nice to get through the new phases,
But we need more unravels and you're gonna need to hit the boss. Yeah, we need more unravels
I would actually love to see damage on the shields, but we don't have access to logs. Unfortunately, that would be nice
That would be really nice actually. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna access the logs during dinner. I'm gonna
Go over to teach to be like just one of these polls just show the damage on shields for us
See those of workers unraveling the shields like crazy. It's ironic exposing his plan to leak logs on stream
No, no logs. I just wanna see the details. It's ironic leaking. They're already showing us the details
What's I just want to see a little bit of the detail nothing new here. I want to see the details in the details
You leak one time man one time
That's definitely more than one details for me. Oh my gosh, you got bigger. Oh that happened
Is him dead?
I see
She keep a top and damage on that havoc demon hunter have a demon hunter
I don't think anybody it was it was on anybody's radar is like a top performing spec
During the raid this year, but I feel like Shaq
has been outperforming what everybody thought about the spec coming into the
tier has been that's like a buff during heroic week didn't it I think it did get
a small buff but I don't know she keep always makes the spec look good man that's
true he's just a blaster always playing the spec well when other demon
hunters are dooming I talked to I talked to him a little bit about his so he
He had the most sketchy, vengeful retreats and fell rushes on Nexus Princess into the
portal.
I talked to him about it after the fact, and he goes, I know the limits of my class on
that fight.
That fight was very sus during Prague, but he was able to figure it out.
He said that it just comes with the territory, and if you start missing globals, then Havoc
becomes noticeably worse, he was saying, and so he can't afford to miss the globals.
He just has to be able to figure out how to play at that level.
And I think that that's what's going on with these Rage Roll First Raiders.
You have to be able to optimize every single damage global that you possibly can to be able
to get the maximum performance out of your spec.
You're not allowed to just, you know, these are all, whenever you look at like rank one
parsers from other guilds and stuff like that, these are all of those players basically
merged into a new guild.
These were the best players of the best guilds, now just like in a culmination
in one guild together.
Yeah.
And it's even crazy that there are some players that are standouts on this guild
from that.
Every player is an insane player, but you know you got certain people that seem to go above and beyond that people like fired up
You know people who got are just considered to be the best player of their class in the game
There's a lot of those in the guild
Everyone always likes to go back to that one clip from fired up the artificers I am ox clip
From castle now that that was cursed because then he made every other mage in the world
believe that they also could and needed to do that and I have bad news none of you guys could use
altar time none of you straight up also you guys suck at blinking in the correct direction
and you never get to pick up your seed on time on zymox and you blow up the right anyways um
okay that was letting it all out caught yeah exactly it's it's it's just true
Stare!
But again, just like it was for Princess Kavesa, just like it was for Silkencourt, we've got
the strategy.
It's about getting the pulls in, getting the familiarization in, damage comes with familiarization.
The damage numbers will go down, we'll start to see lower and lower pushes in phase one,
as they get more comfortable pulling cooldowns off the shield using the beforehands that
come back up off cooldown for phase two.
It's just about consistency man, consistency is key.
There's a reason the Phase 1 event is everything joke that Liquid uses is kind of a joke, but
it's also not really a joke.
What is it?
Phase 1?
Phase 1 is everything.
Oh.
Yeah, I mean.
It's a progression mantra that's kind of a joke, but also not really a joke.
If you're always locked in.
So there's a lot of times on bosses where you'll just kind of phone it in for specific
points in the fight.
But it's one of the situations where if you're always just super locked in,
especially during P1, it can help you never have these mistakes where you end up having
to, for lack of a better term, re-progress a specific point of the fight, and if you
can avoid just frivolous wipes to just like nonsense, you'll be able to actually be able
to see progression faster, and that's what these Raceral First guilds need.
They need to be the best guild in the world for an extended period of time to be able
to take down and win the race.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, for example, all nine of the froth soakers in this phase, they need to be
locked in and go exactly at the right time.
There is very little room for error if you want to stay close to the boss and have full
up time.
And we've seen, you know, they've stayed on the precipice of what is possible, unfortunate
death or something.
Maybe you just rest Scott, maybe you just rest the healer.
You just one tank the rest of the face.
Okay, so what if we just one tank the boss?
We have to have Scott for the intermission.
Oh yeah, we have to have Scott for the intermission.
Well, you can practice the shield, I guess.
We can practice the shield, no lusts?
Yeah.
Does Scott blow up his froth?
Malarkis is dead.
I think Gip says it.
Gip supports back into it with his transcendence.
But still, this froth is still causing a bunch of issues for them.
It's actually not from the explosions themselves, usually it's on the individual players after
the fact that they're popping them because they take so much individual damage from the
froth blowing up and then also from that green circle debuff that they explode
doing a ton of damage to them as well.
And then right after that, we have the first pull and that is a ton of damage too.
It's just huge damage and stuff that they have to live through.
Back to back to back.
Yeah, we're just going to wipe it.
Makes sense.
Go game.
Go game.
It's honestly fine that they're continuing to have more progression in phase one.
It's one of the things that they just have to be able to get it consistent going further
into the fight because like if they can guarantee that a high percentage of their pulls
are going to be able to get out of phase one just because of what they're doing right now,
it's fine in the future.
It won't be fine wiping in phase one over and over again tomorrow or two days from now.
Yeah, I suspect we'll still see a bunch of phase one wipes tomorrow just because of the
complexity of the phase, but just like we saw with our previous fights with more poles,
consistency goes up and we'll start to see more and more phase two.
And then as we see more and more phase two, the consistency goes up there, we'll
see more and more of phase three.
That's why the cult progression you're progressing through the absolute
How many poles you think is Boston gonna be now after we've been watching it so we're 91 pulls in
Mm-hmm. We did our cast for predictions
I think most people were predicting the mid 200s 200 plus poles. Yeah, I think mine was 250
I think I'm pretty comfortable with that number. You feeling okay with that. Yeah
So you think the fight's gonna die on Friday?
Because you do about a hundred pulls a day
Yeah, ish about a hundred in that area 80 to 100 depending on how the length of the fight
Obviously these are going to be I think Nexus Princess was like 150 but that boss you were also wiping it like wiping in two minutes
Yeah, um, I
Think the earliest it could possibly die and this was something we were talking about yesterday
The earliest it could possibly die as we guys chat night
But that's only if like the last phase is super easy. Okay
Then Friday is most likely
And then I'd say I'm saying 442 small
440 today
So okay small chance of Saturday 390 299
So it seems like chat's thinking maybe like a Saturday kill
Because I feel like once we start crossing 300
That's looking at a longer
Yeah, that's gonna be looking more towards like a Saturday kill
Well, and this is one of the hardest types of in boss fights to progress on when you think about other in boss fights
just just look at more recent emboss fights how many of them had a super
intricate difficult phase one
Razzik I thought a difficult one and then nerfed the wins and it wasn't that bad
afterwards
that fight was impossible that's the very beginning that was weird
it was very impossible for like the first two days before they sent out their
first round of nerfs on it
we don't even know if anything's impossible here this is this doesn't look
impossible they're never wiping they haven't been wiping to anything tuning
related yet
so well they could nerf some stuff but like there's nothing that
that needs to be nerfed necessarily here.
Right, but you know, Sarkarath Phase 1?
Very repeatable.
That was pretty easy, for Rack Phase 1, if the blazes got out of control, that wasn't
a problem, but it wasn't that bad either.
That was the first intermission that was the problem for them, for pretty much every
gop.
That was the hardest part of the fight.
So they got a little sneaky.
They didn't get sneaky, somebody else did.
Well, Liquid didn't, but yeah, I digress.
phase looks like the end of phase one might be the hardest part of any phase
one we've had in over two years so the consistency is going to be a huge deal
here I keep hammering this because it's such a big deal they really need to
figure out a way to spread out their cooldown so that there's a
consistent way of doing this because that fourth froth is claiming two or
three lives almost every single pole yeah it's one of situations where I
I can within reasons see how this fight would be
200 pulls 250 pulls and 450 pulls. Yeah, right the 100% the route to being 200 pulls is
You know pull 150 comes around liquid has been seen
You know relatively good and steady progression. They start getting very consistent at phase one and the phase one intermission
Making sure that they're getting through it most of the time and we start seeing the last phase
pull 150 comes around and then it doesn't look like the damage check is really that bad
It doesn't look like there are too many unique or or super punishing mechanics
And then they start seeing like a bunch of pretty deep wipes for 50 pulls and then the boss does what we'll do
I mean we've already seen phase 2 the DPS check rather in phase 2 isn't that bad if you have ever went a while
It's just a matter of getting there with every yeah, which is I mean that's how you want the fight to be here
We go. Let's see this intermission this this transition at the intermission again, but we have our battle. Are they gonna lost looks like we have
Okay, only fired up died. That's well. That's not okay
He loses a spy master stacks, but we can battle with some of and have all 20 players at the very least lost a lot of burst damage
I have to keep everyone alive through this wreath. Oh, Malark is good. Malark is goes down. He's right
They're top damage right now to you, which is tough
Tough stuff. It's just such a tough burst of damage there, right? The damage incoming from the froth into that first pull
Now the rest is going on
second rest they have to make sure that they drop those puddles from that rest
in like a really good spot that's why they have everybody get off the boss
there yeah to make sure that those puddles are placed in a good spot it
looks like they have about a hundred million damage left on this shield we're
not beating this I fear that we are going to be chalking tend unfortunate
chat is that a word talking to chat is that a word yeah it's just it's just
is a tough phase man it's the brother to Brickington
I just says it's a word I believe you it's a word
I hear I used it I heard I heard it come out of your mouth that doesn't mean it's
country of origin United States what about city of origin don't say Chicago
It's not me, I don't know.
Los Angeles.
I'd be San Diego.
But I think it's Los Angeles.
It's just it's so tough.
And but yeah, and then for the 450
pull one, it's like how that happens is
the last phase.
OK, so they get consistent in phase one,
they get consistent with the phase one
intermission.
The last phase is just nuclear difficulty has unique mechanics.
We're wiping six minutes of the boss over and over and over again, and still have potential wipes during phase one.
Yeah, actually, can you do us a favor? Whenever you go on your date with Salatath, can you, you know, get some information from her?
Let us know. Ask her if there's going to be any interference around the mythic encounter of this fight.
No.
What?
My main goal is to get a second date.
Dude, he doesn't want to help us.
I don't have ulterior motives.
I'm selfish.
I feel like you should understand.
Yeah, okay fine.
You know what, you're right.
Fair enough.
Also, what is happening with-
Bro's out, Toe's out.
The wrestler needs no help.
Yeah, good point.
It should have been me.
No, it's me, man. I needed it.
You don't get it, it's been awful.
They've gotten the first two minutes of the fight down pretty consistently.
It's just this overlap that they've been working on for a while.
I find it so funny that they went known for this boss.
What a random race.
I mean, if it works, it works.
It's crazy, but if it helps, if it helps remove a mechanic from the fight
and you're still having issues,
removing the mechanic from the fight,
seems like it was pretty necessary for them to do.
It helps so much with the positioning here,
Especially for that final froth the overlap of mechanics into that final froth with a web right beforehand
Imagine having to break everyone out from that AOE
And then going to your froth positions afterwards that would be
Almost undoing. I mean, Trattness was talking about how he did not like the root mechanic on this boss. He thought it was like
Really obnoxious and I tend to agree. I think that lot I did a loss of control effects as a mechanic
It should only be used as punishment. I don't think it should ever
This is my personal opinion
I don't think it should ever be used as like a genuine mechanic.
I don't think you should ever be rooted, stunned,
or have any loss of control effect applied to your character
unless it is a punishment.
I think that, you know, as just like a traditional mechanic,
it just feels so bad.
I mean, they're by far the least fun type of mechanic.
There's no loss of control mechanic
that has been good in this game.
Well, dude, every single time I get stunned by that tree
in Waycrest Manor as well,
Getting here with the soul thorns and just like
How is it a good mechanic? Okay?
No, you're right. You're right. Go off right now. No, no, no. Go off. I don't need a I'm not arguing with anybody
I'm just it's just annoying fourth froth and they actually had a ton of time for that one this time around
That was that seemed like it was nice and spread out
Health farce top gonna keep an eye on that one final debuff there everyone's alive 20 players with a battle res
Ready, so this is one of the cleanest phase ones we've ever had and hopefully that'll help us break this shield
Do we lust very assistant consistently? We don't see a lust just yet
Look at it. I think we can get this shield down without the lesson
Look they have a ton of room left over to that plenty of room for probably two more of those points
This is the hardest part
I think for all the melee that they're running on this boss
Just having to get off the boss for extended periods of time for that rest
It just slows down your damage so much
But melee are just so good at this tier that you actually have to be able to play a bunch of melee and oh my god
Look we're gonna be able to do it. This is okay so sick
So they're gonna be breaking through the shield they actually have a decent amount of space as well
Oh, look at that as that shield
Finishes up we don't have a battle rest, but we do have our lust
So I think that this is the first time that we've actually made it through the shield without pressing that loss
And now we're gonna be able to see the intermission all 20 players alive
Now getting to that intermission with everybody like making sure that they're able to land on that platform
And breaking those 75 million health shields from those ads up at that top platform
That's gonna be huge and fired up is going down on screen here. No res. So it's but it's
It's not the worst possible situation now. It's not great. It's not great, but it's doable. It's a lot
Yes, they popped it now. Oh, I'm down to the last here. There's a lot. This is basically a progress
Oh, these are in group going down to okay. Well, I think we could still do it as long as well
I'm so portals. We should but they're all on the other platform coming out
They're all of us the same platform as Scott is the issue. Okay, and so that's
That's quite bad.
Okay.
The lust is pretty good.
We have 20, oh, got pulled off.
Oh, he was already dead.
Firetop was already dead.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're on the second platform here.
20 seconds left on the gas.
20 seconds left on the gas to have to burst this shield in the front here.
They've got 15 seconds left on that shield.
We need to burst it down.
Do as much damage.
We're going to pull down Zor up here.
Little X-Weep.
Good Rop.
Okay, dropping all the bombs on top of that.
7 seconds on the shield.
Looks like this side is through.
Is the other side through?
It's still alive almost dead five seconds. Can they get it done? Oh, no, no blew up. I think it blew up
Man so close brutal
Well, I'm gonna just alive wait a second. If they can kill us that's off. Okay, no
Okay
Bit of problem though. That was the most consistent P1 we've seen so far. I've seen worse that was uh,
That was pretty good. If they if they didn't lose those three players going into that intermission
We would have seen the final phase. Yeah, would have been huge. I would have looked that
Yeah, we were seconds from seeing the final phase there
It's important to mention that we were if they broke that second. We were quite literally
Maybe three seconds away from being able to break that shield. Yeah. Yeah
That was very close
We should get back a lot got a lock in got a lock in phase one is everything set up in your chairs. Just got to get back there
Exactly
How did fired up die? I mean I actually didn't see many instances of damage here
It looks like he died to one of the Poland's maybe he was on some web at the last second
But he's saving his altered time for that first. I I think it's pretty difficult to tell unless we're looking to replay
I also don't think it's like super
great to analyze individual deaths from like a race rule first perspective as to like why somebody died.
Yeah.
It's not a little bit last year where people were blaming specific people for, you know, wipes or whatnot.
Not like the Raiders, but like Chatters.
And I just don't think that that's like very productive because
raiding especially...
it's one of those things that
you have to look at like all of the polls and all of the deaths for an entire Raid night to really be able to like
gauge somebody's performance and somebody might have, you know, a death at a pivotal moment that wipes you or whatever.
And that's obviously not great, but if they that's the only time they died over the previous hundred pulls of Prague
I think it's just like all right, whatever I can assure you chat that if a player is making more mistakes than any other player in the room
They know what they're okay, and they're actively trying to fix it. We do have a reload though right now our pole finished
Okay, how many poles?
Yeah, and chat guesses with 43% of the the chat saying 300 to 400
That's a lot of poles. That's a lot of poles
What was the last emboss that went to 300?
What was Phyrek?
I don't know if I was to say something.
I think it was like high 200s, if I remember properly.
Sarkaroth was definitely not 300.
Okay, no. Apparently Phyrek was 463 pulls.
That's not between 300 and 400 though.
That is not what I thought the number was going to be.
Uh, Raziketh was a big number too.
So we've had a few of them recently.
Jailer was also a crazy pull boss.
Yeah, well, I...it's tough.
It's tough.
It's like, uh, Insta-Wipe mechanics and a bunch of Phase 1 wipes are the things that really
inflate your pole count on bosses, and this fight doesn't necessarily have that.
They are wiping Phase 1 a lot, but it's not.
It's not Insta-Rade-Wipe mechanics in the same way that Firewreck was at my point.
Chatting.
It was literally two bosses ago.
Guys, he said End Boss.
End Boss.
End Boss.
Not.
Not.
Nice as Princess.
two weeks away, princess was over 300
it was probably, yeah, before that was what, Jailer?
I mean, yeah, Pharax was over it
Pharax was over 300
Sark was like
Sark was like 160
yeah, Sark was like 100
it was between 100 and 200
Raz was not a ton
Raz was a lot
it was a lot, because I spent a lot of pulls
wiping into the phase 1 intervention
I thought Raz was like 250
I'm pretty sure it was a high number
I could be wrong
I see
How does it get in the world?
They spent like two days
splitting their heads against phase 1
Yeah, I guess. 265.
Oh, okay. We're back. I'm okay with that.
Okay.
Was it making stuff up?
And of course, Jailer was probably about 400.
Jailer was a lot. Yeah, that.
But again, similar, similar theme.
The way that you inflate a pole count is you just wipe them at the very beginning of the boss.
Jailer, bomb, very beginning.
Alright, didn't get in the hole. Alright, we're wiping.
Jailer was also unique because there was that sort of world soul of Azeroth in the middle that...
That was a weird... That was a weird...
sure how it would work yeah turns out that was your enrage and you needed to
play the first two phases of the fight perfectly which didn't actually know
until like that chain lightning mechanic pulls in was weird the chain lightning
could randomly not change sometimes and you'd be like well that's that pull gone
I was a during Prague I was one of the people who had like touched the the
puddle I was a oh you were you were one of those guys yeah yeah that fight was
If I was brutal through the trigger man exactly on the line. Yeah
Weird boss, I don't think it was that great
I've played more satisfying bosses before oh my gosh. We got killed achievements. We're back
Let's go. Do we get diplomacy dungeon diplomat? Oh, yes, and our ambassador. Yep killed ten numbs as well
Whatever that one's called dead slayer
No, no killer. Can we get grats in the chat all caps gr at z? Let's go
Wait, what is this?
It's the runescape bottom default model. What is dance doing orange justice? Yeah, I saw oh, that's the fortnight dance. Oh
like
Do the model as I said, what is this dance?
that's also one of the default dancing to see the
no I did not see that so it's on
it's OSRS plus okay
that's what that's what that is weird
nothing makes me feel older than my co-casters explain to me tiktok trends
I don't know how much I I think I hate this a lot
I don't think I felt old until now
have you seen the water of the day was even mean
I just I just look as I
Is this guy who has like three carousels of different types of like those hydration packets that you put in water
And you just randomly selects them and makes the water of the day. I just I
Can't comprehend
It's great. Maybe I'm out of touch
When it comes to bits the best bits that you can that he just dash right before his
route went off and didn't hit somebody else yep he was ready for it that was
all right this is why he's three times the player I'll ever be I see that was
do you have a top five new jeans song list huh really you mean do you know
who new jeans is like like Levi's the number one's got to be
attentioned for sure
I'll we throw high boy in there somewhere
What I put for three four and five
Think about this a little bit. This is a tough one like Levi's wranglers. It's kpop titles. Oh
Something I know how even less than tiktok honestly is kpop. I think it's okay
It's probably in the top of they don't have that many songs is the thing
They're relatively new group broke my favorite song of all time is welcome to the black parade like that's a banger though
I agree. I'm not listening to K-pop. It's just not my not my jam. Oh, we lost it
Yep, just just get progression. We have a player down. Let's see what we can get done here
We're gonna need it to get through this cleanly. We're missing some of our melee
Maybe beat this next
Yeah, we're good. We're good for 20 million. We're good. We're good. We're good. Okay. We won
Well, it's not a little bit of the last leftover full first set of ads not a lot of us going down days
These are getting REZED.
Not ideal.
Not ideal.
I didn't do my last two songs yet though.
I'm surprised that you know five K-pop songs.
Oh, I know a ton of K-pop songs.
Why?
Because I like K-pop.
Why?
It's good music.
I like all styles of music.
There's only one style of music that I really don't like in this country.
I'm just not a fan.
EDM and track.
I don't think it's a bad or anything.
Oh, somebody got pulled off.
Unfortunately, maybe it was a dead body.
No, no, no, it was a heavy injury, but died there.
So we're trying to beat the shield finishing.
As you can see, on the top right hand corner of the screen where the boss rooms are,
we're trying to beat that cast time. It's currently at 17 seconds.
So they have 17 seconds to take these shielded mobs from 100% HP shielded to 0%.
There's also some players that have to swap from platform to platform as you see.
with the debuff and like impact had to do on screen right there. He'll have to go through the portals
to be able to swap what side he's on that way he doesn't blow up his side. Okay, he also did
something cool there with his debuff. As it falls off it will drop a voids on on the ground. He uh
jumped off to drop the debuff and then uh wind gusts did back on. I think that's the name
of the ability that shaman's have that is like a little dash forward in the air.
Maybe save a little bit of room on the platform. Now this is tough. Now I don't
I don't mean to jinx it, but the last couple of pulls have been looking better.
They have. They've been looking better. They've been looking slightly more consistent.
I think it's one of those spots that they just have to be able to get through that intermission without pressing the lust at some point.
They're really kind of relying on it a lot to be able to even get through those intermissions.
Okay, let me finish out my top five, though. I think I'm going to move Ditto up to number one.
I think that's my favorite new Jean song.
And I think OMG has to be on the top five as well.
isn't that that song by usher? no oh oh oh oh oh oh my god like that one yeah no
that's not how it goes is that my tio cruise i don't remember that one's by
that was by maybe somebody usher it's like that one yeah i don't think that's
what it is i don't know if that would be my top five songs i don't think it
would be either oh jet jumpscare quick reload they're updating their week
wars it's kind of it's kind of interesting like we were talking about
a little bit earlier, the evolution of the race will first. One of the things too that's crazy
is the fact that they just have somebody outside the raid doing weekours for them all the time now
and just pushing constant updates to their weekour packs. Yeah, something that they've been
sort of developing and it's still in constant development throughout the past four or five
raid tiers is they have something that they colloquially called the horse. What does that
even mean? That every raider has to get, it's a liquid add-on that they made for the guild
that essentially lets somebody else make updates to a pack that gets uploaded to the horse, and then the horse uploads them to their game.
So whenever the horse gets updated, they can reload their UI, and the horse will auto-update their add-ons for them.
That seems pretty efficient.
It's pretty cool.
Dude, I kind of miss whenever kill videos were sick.
What's your favorite kill video of all time?
Oh wait, we've been over this, but I think mine is a good answer.
It's a Odca, Ragnaros and Firelands.
What made that one special? They weren't even World 1st.
They were World 3rd.
So what made that one the coolest?
It's an extremely well produced kill video.
Good music.
Lots of good POVs.
And one of the things that I liked so much about it,
that they were doing that no other kill video related too much at the time,
is they sporadically sprinkled in some guild comps.
Oh, okay. Most people weren't using guild comps at all.
Most people weren't using guild comps back then.
I thought the Paragon Lich King one had guild comps.
Paragon did in Lich King at the end.
Yeah. But still it wasn't used in that many guild videos.
Okay.
And it was cool for me because it kind of gave you a little bit of insight into how people sort of called things in a hop, in a top end guild.
No, yeah. Vodka's guild video editor back then, Kinesesia, was really, really good at it.
And he had good music days too.
I think mine is...
Just wait for it.
hard gaming. Oh, I know. World's second opulence. Yes. One of the best kill videos of all time.
Opulence, of course, notably the fourth boss of the pod. So not an important boss kill.
But they went all out. They spent, I think, their entire editing budget on the fourth
the boss fill and it looked like how I would describe it.
Whenever you're teaching high schoolers how to use Premiere and you go this is
what your final project is, these are the footage that you have.
These are the styles that you have to add to this edit and you have to use a
multi-cam to be able to cut through multiple POVs. That's what it looks
like and it is insane. It doesn't even go that hard, but it's just way
over-edited to the point where it's awesome and the music they choose to use is
Extremely over the top for a fourth boss of a nine boss raid
It is one of the greatest kill videos of all time for no reason
I will say as a whole I always liked peregrine's kill videos, too
They used a lot of two steps from hell, which is kind of epic in their kill videos
Yeah, it's good kill video
Hear us, or is it just the game audio that's gone? I don't think we're actually muted. Hello
save paul we're back oh we're so back sorry I don't think they liked our taste
in kill video so anyways runescape pk videos classic classic thing for back in
the day we're back we're back it's great do you remember the derail 321
video from fallador that happened on June 6th 2006 whoa a little bit of planet
help playing in that video?
You have dates, I've memorized.
Buddy, these are core moments in gaming history.
This is as big of a thing as the plague in Orgrimmar from back in the day.
People linked me some Moonken 5 song video one time and I thought that was kind of funny.
It was an old one.
I was big shout out to Wreckful 3.
Insane.
Dude, I thought it was funny enough.
I actually just, by starting in Watt, I just like never understood why those things, like
why those videos were as big as they were.
Yeah.
I think I just like missed the era of like when those things were kind of cool.
Well, there was this whole sort of just time where there was a website called Warcraft
Movies that was huge for all sorts of different things.
Why did you guys use Warcraft Movies over YouTube?
It's, YouTube was created in like 2006.
just, you know, PK videos, they had, um, MVs too. What were they called?
FMVs where you just kind of did emotes with your character and like typed along
to the song. Those were huge for a while.
I didn't know what you're talking about. Like, what's an FMV?
Like, is it an FMV?
It's a music video. I don't remember what the F was for them.
AMV. AMV. Is that right?
Thank you, Chad. Thank you.
Or a full-motion video here.
Dude, the mid-2000s were great.
They were great.
Dude, I kind of wish that I started playing WoW before I did.
But I also didn't have the money to start playing until I was like 18, so...
I don't think I've been able to start earlier.
You're going to miss out a lot more than you're going to participate in.
You can't really be too upset with what you pick and choose.
The one thing I actually sat that I missed more than anything else is 10-man rating.
That is the only thing that I'm like, wow, I really wish I could have done that other than that.
It was interesting. It was more...
So I started off 10 man rating
And I liked it. It was it was tight knit. It felt like you had a smaller community, which is nice
That's why I like about five minutes, right? Yeah. Yeah, but when I saw up to 25 man rating
I just
Resonate way more. I think that the thing that would be cool with 10 man's is kind of the same reason that I like mythic plus
It's just like a smaller group and it could be like I
Think that the some of the issues that I have with rating to is just like the the strictness of a schedule
compared to like what you're able to do and it doesn't feel like there's any
leeway with like not being like very rigid with your scheduling for mythic
plus or for raids specifically sorry. It's a lot easier to play around five
people than it is 20. But it's also one of those things too that you know ads
raids have gotten more complicated and difficult over time like watching the
mechanics that you're seeing on screen right here it's a lot more
challenging to play it casually right where like you're not gonna casually kill
Mythic and Serec you know rating just four hours a night or something like that
well with different people that's locked in LNG a couple minutes here we've got
20 players alive we've got a battle a battle has banked up for any particular
mistake we are nuking this shield we just had the second pull in have a
A lot of time to beat the third one.
We're going to have 20 players alive into the second phase here, Tettles.
No loss.
Huge deal.
No less press, right?
No less press.
Still available.
And I think we'll see that the second they get up, the first platforming.
I'm down for them to press it again.
They also, yeah, like you know, they do have that battle as well.
If somebody doesn't have going down.
The only issues if they go down, like falling into the void.
The big damage event is the dispelling of these debuffs here.
Yipps and Scott going through.
They have to get dispelled after.
Jack goes down.
Tons of camichuns group, couple players get out by those errant orbs, have a couple deaths,
but we have a res.
We're going to be two players down going up to the left, three players down.
They're going to have to wait to take the res until their bodies get ported up here.
So we'll see how this goes.
Once their body gets ported up, they can then rejoin the fight.
Oh, the res of healer.
If he has res'd, I think they're going to wait.
Oh, wait.
They just weren't top enough for the pull.
Yeah.
Ha.
That's a ton of damage, man.
Well, it's over. We've lost.
Okay, but it is! They've been consistently getting back there.
Yeah. I mean, this is what we need to be able to see for all.
More proc points. More proc points. We've gotten past that 4 froth several times in a row now.
Gotta lock in.
With everyone alive.
They're making it past the shield damage check as well, with everybody alive without pressing lust.
I was kind of worried that they were using lust as a crutch maybe a little bit too much, but now I think we're
Oh, no, you were knocking over the monster
The wall of monsters. It was only four cans guys only four cans. I
Think they've glued some of them together. What? That's cheating
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You're smiling cuz you know it's true
You know, you're smiling because you've been called out.
Vice, is it true?
No.
Are you sure?
They said no, but I swear.
You wouldn't lie to me, would you?
Oh my gosh.
He's not coming over.
Dinner break has been called.
This is so good for me, guys.
Yeah, it's about time.
6.30 usually when we do dinner breaks.
I'm getting nervous.
This is good, though.
The time we spent in the last hour or so
stressing on this fight is...
I'll talk about my dinner date.
Oh, you're about...
Wait, is that happening right now after we're off?
were off? Yeah. We gotta get you prepared then. Oh man. I'm prepared. I'm locked in. Some of
these brave pictures are great work everybody. Hilarious parts of our memory. Probably all
the rangers walking behind us. This particular picture here of Alice, this was from when we
were in Boston that did a spicy wings challenge and he was just throwing milk at his face.
That? Cool. Alice known enjoyer of spicy food. So it's kind of unfortunate that he was
a dying over there. Yeah. How are you feeling? I think that the last hour has been good. I think that
we've seen a lot of pretty solid progression from the guys. I think that we were maybe a little bit
more concerned about their Prague just generally speaking, you know, over the, you know, beginning
of the day. But I think they're really locked in the past five or so pulls to be able to
see very consistent Prague. That's what we're going to continue to see moving forward.
But I'm feeling kind of good. I I wonder if we're gonna meet we're gonna beat that
250 pole estimation that you kind of proposed earlier listen
My 900 I then pull prediction got completely destroyed and I'm happy that was so I would also be happy if they beat the 250 on this boss
Yeah, I think
We're geared up to get a lot of great progression after dinner here
They're gonna go get their food buff right now. You can see I'm walking along behind us here as we're talking
You've got that dragon slayer special tonight the brazed beef. I'm gonna have to miss out on those
You've got something else to do. I got a date was alatath
Because you guys in chat. Yes. I'm talking to you guys raise $20,000 for our charity partner the Santa Monica animal shelter
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That's not me. No, that's not you. I got the date was out at the $20,000
That's kind of messed up very good. You get a cool thing and they have to wax their leg
You get this insane opportunity and they have to wax their leg
The ultimate opportunity some would say some would say yes
Yes
Have you been feeling about just the boss in general you I think I kind of like it. I think it's a cool boss
Yeah, I have any issues with it. It's a good step up from heroic the mythic mechanics are pretty cool
It's a brutal lineup of damage to coming out on the players
But they're doing a good job of working through it and we're getting at that progression point
Where we're starting to see more and more and more of that second phase like we're extremely close to seeing phase 3
extremely close
We're probably
One death in that particular pull from seeing phase three. Yeah, I think that we're definitely gonna be seeing phase three
Post dinner being able to break through those shields on those ads doesn't seem like the easiest thing ever
Also, if they can actually get their lust all the way into that final phase
That would be big because at that point that we're actually able to see what the strat is supposed to look like
Moving into the future right because they're gonna be lost in the last phase
It's more of a question of how are they supposed to get that lost all the way there?
Yeah, and that's a progression-oriented thing, right? They'll probably at some point realize,
okay, we're actually beating the shield by a time we don't need to use the lust here.
They're still getting used to the damage in that phase as well, right? The way that phase
works, most of the damage comes from two damages, that's right. The debuffs being
dispelled after they go through the portals. Yes. In addition to the damage from the
resks, right? Getting pulled in, that's a lot of damage as well. Can't be standing
in the void zones. There are other one-shot things going out, right? You need to make
sure you're not getting hit by those lines. Mm-hmm. And all of this is just a
positional base thing right as long as you play the fight play the face more and
they get there more cleanly they'll get more used to actually playing those
mechanics out and we'll see them start to get into phase three I think that could
happen tonight just like you just said and see how it goes this food buff is
great though this is one of the best ones Heidi's gotten in her back pocket
it's crazy that you're ranking them I personally think that they're all
great but obviously some are better than the other I don't pick favorites
except for Xaltas.
Anyways.
Dude, I'm getting kind of nervous for this date.
I'm not gonna lie to you.
You're fine, you're fine. Just relax.
I'm kind of trembling, I don't know if you can tell.
That's why I'm kind of holding my hands. I'm getting clammy.
Do you get clammy hands?
No.
I do.
Not really.
Just get cool, man.
What's the worst that can happen?
Uh, she turns me into a dagger.
That'd be pretty bad.
That does sound pretty bad actually.
But not if she actually used me.
Then that would be pretty good.
Hold on, wait a second, we might be cooking.
Hold on.
Hmm.
Could be good.
Get it all out of your system right now.
See what do you mean?
What do you mean by that?
Get the unhinged stuff out now
so you don't say it during the day.
What do you mean unhinged?
What do you mean what do I mean unhinged?
I'm not unhinged.
Okay.
I'm completely normal.
Listen, I'm just trying to help you out, man.
I'm feeling pretty good.
Maybe a little nervous though.
I thought you said you were nervous.
I'm nervous.
I want a second date!
Do you not get nervous about going on dates?
Not really.
It just means you probably don't care enough.
Anyways, we're going to be throwing to a break.
I will be going on a date with Zalatath. I must prepare.
I'm going to go practice my pickup lines in the mirror a few minutes.
Good luck!
Right before our date, so stay tuned for that.
It'll be quite good.
And we will see you guys right after this dinner break.
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I got the files in.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Have you ever been here before?
What?
Me neither.
Yeah.
Jane, tell me you're new here.
Yeah.
But I'm familiar with your work.
Yeah.
I saw what you did to Dalaran.
Yeah.
That was very impressive.
Yeah.
I could do much more, believe me.
but that's me that for later.
Hey guys, how are we doing tonight?
Not too bad.
Welcome, thanks so much for coming to Heidi's Place.
I'm gonna be your server tonight.
I'm a meal, I'll be taking care of you.
Have either of you been here before?
No.
No?
Incredible, well welcome.
I will give you some time to peruse the menu.
We've got some lovely specials on today.
I'll start you off with some water.
What do you recommend?
I would recommend the Spiderslayer special.
That's definitely our chef's signature dish.
Okay.
Do you have anything darker?
Darker than a spider slayer special.
Eww, snapper's pretty light.
And I think the rigatoni, no, nothing darker.
How do you feel about bugs?
Go for some bugs.
I'll leave you with the water.
And here's our monster list.
We have some excellent vintages.
Mm, very smooth.
We'll drink with you.
I'll give you some time at the menu.
I'll be back soon.
All right.
Oh, sir?
Yes?
Could you bring me something a little stronger?
I can try.
Okay, thank you.
I'm thinking about just getting the spider special.
I think the spider slayer special sounds good, yeah.
Okay, so what do you do?
Well, I play World of Warcraft mostly.
Love to play Augmentation of Okra.
I could buff you.
What's your I.O. I look like I need buffs?
Where are you looking? I was contemplating how to answer.
I'm a bit nervous. I don't do this that often.
It's not my first time, but it's just been a while.
It's been a while for me as well. I've been
preoccupied. I sit. Trap. Oh, I'm so sorry to interrupt, it seems real deep what you guys are talking about.
I was wondering if you had a chance to bruise the monster list.
Ah, sorry, um, I think...
Do you want anything?
Sorry, I need to adjust. I'm coming on down.
You seem like a purple.
Yeah, something boring.
We can do, we like the purple?
Can we do two of those?
Two purples.
How would I just bring you a cane?
That sounds great.
I don't know what they meant by that.
Excuse me?
I said I don't know anything about that, but okay.
Yeah, the dark works, thank you.
I like your I like your toe, right? Thank you. I thought it was very magnificent. Where did you see that?
I saw it as you walked in. I'm glad you know it's a new one.
Do they come everywhere? Mostly for protection? I protect them.
Mmm, okay.
Do you need more handlers?
I would be a great handler, I feel.
Ooh, I love that color.
It fits you well.
Think I've tried this once before.
Turn that sucker around.
How is it?
It tastes like a homemade grape jam.
Yes.
Would you like to try it?
I would love some.
Normally I don't eat spiders.
Okay.
But, we're here.
Would you like to go farm the raid later?
I was thinking maybe Nyalotha.
We could get some log together.
Pretty nice.
You know, I was once in a bagger.
How was that?
Pretty painful.
I don't know if you can handle it.
Not saying anything about you or the augmentation.
Got some bread for the table.
Oh my gosh.
There we are.
Do we need a little more time with the menus
or do you think we know what we want?
I think that I know what I want.
Do you know what you want?
Yeah, this is a spider slayer special, please.
Okay, one spider slayer.
Can we just get two of those?
Two spider slayers.
Sounds perfect.
Excellent choice.
Okay, when do you get all?
Uh, 7.30.
Oh, they brought us some bread?
Yeah, they have great bread.
Bread's not, you know, got a gluten thing.
Oh.
My friend Kalamazov,
also has a gluten thing. Oh yeah the warlock. Yeah you know them? Yeah I met with
him a few days ago. I see. How was that? It was good. Where'd you meet him? It was
actually here. Oh well yeah I think so you haven't been here before. With you I
haven't been here with you before but that's a silly thing to say because
we're just meeting. I see. So yeah, Kalamazie, he also has a gluten thing. Yeah, they just
didn't give us bread, only bug. Oh, I think they said you were meh on bug. Well, if it's
all the person I'm here with, they're not. I can eat many different things. I'm well
traveled. Can you? Oh yes. You ever taste anything voidy? Maybe after tonight. So where'd
you get those shoulders from? Well these, I don't know. I think they just hang up the
dress. It's a good mug you have. Thank you. Yeah. Where's kind of like an Anduin. Oh.
Look vibe going on yet. I'm glad that you think so. That's great. Yeah. Kalanazi's
a little more like brawl. Florida's a weird state. I don't know if you've ever been there.
Florida? Yeah. No, I was in that backer quite some time. How do I describe it in World of
Warcraft terms? Let me think. Extrangle Thorn maybe? Duskwallow Marsh? Duskwallow Marsh.
Yeah, the Duskwallow Marsh of World of Warcraft, yeah. Duskwallow has its charms. Not very
many of them out? Yeah. So where did you get those shoulders? I can't remember. I've had them
before. I was in bagger and I kind of forgotten a lot that has happened. I spent a lot of gold
on the Black Market Auction House. Oh yeah, on this? No, not on that. Okay, on this one. Oh,
on what you've got on now. Exactly. We're a little in the weeds back there, but we've got
Oh, perfect. Thank you so much.
Anyone for the lady?
Thank you.
The plating is immaculate.
Whoa.
Did you know that?
No, we just met.
What was that?
I don't know.
You gonna put up with that?
No.
I saw what you did.
I saw what you did with the dollar on.
Yeah.
Okay.
I blew that up.
There's some room.
So you went into like a thrupple thing?
Excuse me?
A thrupple.
A thrupple.
Oh, I'll tell you that later.
You're here.
Tattles.
It's the first day.
I see.
My life's not bad.
You get a hair in your mouth.
No.
A little hair.
I love the color of your hair.
Oh, thank you.
Do you dye it?
Do you dye it or is it?
No, it just comes out like this.
Oh, okay.
It takes a lot of work to take care of it.
Okay.
Yeah, most people don't ask you about hair.
Thank you.
I think it's very pretty.
Thank you.
Of course.
This is very good.
So are you friends with Ansarik?
You're good with the hair?
Oh, yeah.
Queen Ansarik, yeah.
You know her?
Yeah, she's a good friend.
Good friend.
How's she doing these days?
I saw her recently.
I think she's been better.
Okay.
She was in some...
She's pretty strong.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can't figure out how she'd wear pants, though.
Why should you need to wear pants?
Well, like, it's kind of like the horse question.
Like, if you put pants on a horse, how would they be wearing them?
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yeah.
Is it the back half of her spidery legs?
Exactly. Or on her butt, yeah.
I don't know.
I'm not sure.
I can't really figure it out.
She'll need that hole for the web?
That's a good point, I hadn't considered that.
So maybe just covering the legs, some sort of leggings.
How's your food?
It's delicious.
That's great.
What are you doing after this?
Nothing much.
That waiter might go out somewhere.
You want to come?
I can be down.
You like ice cream?
It's a little sweet.
Any more...savory?
Mmm.
Spicy or...
Yeah, spicy.
It's painful.
Oh.
An experience as possible.
I have hand tubs.
Okay, well, we're talking about dessert.
Oh, sorry.
And we're talking about something.
My bad.
I didn't mean to make you uncomfortable.
It's okay.
I've seen a lot in my days.
So, how old are you again?
I don't think they're sure.
Who is they?
Who's my friends?
I don't know, I've known them for a while too.
Oh, okay.
Mm-hmm.
They're pretty crazy.
Have you ever seen something uncomprehensibly horrific where, like, you can't even imagine
it?
And as you're looking at it, you lose all sense of being?
Anyways, my friends are like that.
Oh, okay.
We can meet them later if you'd like.
I can be down.
Yeah, the waiter's way into it.
Oh, okay.
So what do you...
Okay.
I'll ask later.
Yeah, yeah.
He seems like a cool guy.
Okay.
Is he part of your entourage as well?
No, we just met.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
I see. Word, cool.
Uh-huh.
Mm-hmm.
No, I'm not...
I'm having a good time.
Okay, I'm perfect.
I just...
Ooh!
Are those Swedish fish?
At least they weren't in the sweets.
I didn't order that.
Oh, wait.
This has been complimenting, but flute or something.
Yeah.
So I mean, obbies are just auga-voking.
I don't get out very much.
I have a cat, who's in Burt.
Cast the Racer Wolf first every so often.
That's why I'm here.
Things are going, I think, OK.
What's the Racer Wolf first?
So there are these gills, and they
They're consisted of about 30 players,
and they get up in a group of people,
and they try to defeat the bosses of a raid.
Right now they're trying to get after Queen Anne
to wreck your friend.
But I've been protecting her, or at least trying to.
I've been sabotaging my raid as much as possible.
OK.
Did we have everything tonight?
Yes.
Been wonderful.
Excellent.
I'm going to drop this here, no rush, absolutely no rush.
Do you mind if I clear these away for you?
Yes, he was lovely.
Hey, you know her?
You know her?
No, no, no.
OK.
I've never seen her.
She's beautiful though.
Relax.
We're on a date, buddy.
What about that today?
It was just, I requested a second bill.
Just I just am curious.
Oh, OK.
You want to get out of here?
This is kind of pricey.
I spare no expense for a woman like you.
Yeah.
Ready to get out of here?
Oh, everybody, and welcome back to the Race World
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If you're just now tuning in, we unfortunately missed a hell of a good time MAKE's.
I mean I'm a little upset.
That could have been me.
I know.
And I would have been doing so much better in titles.
I know.
You don't ask a woman how old she is.
We did that?
What was that?
Oh man.
I can't believe we had the wrestler here
teaching him all of those things.
So many tips.
And he messed it up like this.
I know.
It was hard to watch.
He got outplayed by a waiter.
He did.
Yeah.
Pretty bad waiter, too.
Yes.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think he was doing fine.
You think he was doing fine?
Teddles?
Yeah.
No, not with the waiter.
Oh, yeah, OK.
I mean, the waiter was OK.
But like, not in a, you'll fall in love with him.
What was that?
I mean, that just goes to show how mediocre the date actually was.
Do you think Salatath was kind of desperate?
You know, I wouldn't have thought so going into that.
But after watching that, I think Salatath might be a little lonely.
After being in that dagger for so long, talking about her trauma, just trauma dumping.
I know.
Imagine going on a date and trauma dumping.
It's really embarrassing.
Do you know how I would have gotten her?
Hey do you want to hear a dinosaur fact? Oh oh oh see she appeared right away she's
running away in shame no no she's gonna she's gonna come back okay hope so well
we'll have to we'll have to interview her get a breakdown of that date but yeah if
you're just now tuning in that of course was for our twenty thousand dollars more
all through if you can hear the noise in the kitchen Heidi and Mila
birthday milkshakes with Scott's birthdays today so we're getting
birthday milkshakes and minus without any toppings, because breakfast.
Oh yeah, and it's very good.
Is it good?
It is very good.
Would you like to try it?
No, I'm okay.
It does look good though.
That much milk that late in the day would put me out and I've got, well, we've got a
couple hours of here of prog-ing.
But speaking of prog-ing, you were kind of saying a little bit before that it's
a little bit misleading if you take the progress of our guild on Anstrak if you
look at the health bar alone.
Yes, so when we started this morning, when my first shift was, I already told chat, I was like,
get the notebooks out, we're writing a fact down that is going to be important for this
boss progression, because every single time there's a boss with a shield or an ad phase,
people get confused about what progress on a boss means. And this boss just has both of
these things. So we have been sitting on the same amount of best percent for around about the
entire day started that one in the early morning hours. And since we've made a lot of progress,
but you cannot see it in the boss percentage because one is a shield and in the other one the
boss is immune. That doesn't mean we didn't see further into the fight. Okay. It's going to be
the same progress for the other guilds. So write that down. I'm just telling you.
Should we put like an on a big piece of paper or something for them and then they
can like copy your notes maybe? See I've been thinking on whether or not we
should be putting it into the into the Coinbase leaderboard. Oh P1, P2,
intermission. Yeah. So they understand what's going on. Okay. Because yeah those
Those numbers mean nothing right now, and I don't say that lightly.
Okay.
What would be a good solution?
I know, I'm trying to think of a good way to...
I mean, it is tough.
I know the chat tends to not listen.
They do be doing that?
Sometimes to us, maybe they were the problem.
No, I don't think so.
Okay, okay.
I'm denying that fact right now.
Maybe we need, like, in giant letters, just scrolling across.
Like you know in the beginning of an expansion, boss percent is fake for half of the fight.
Yeah.
You know in the beginning of an expansion, somebody will have like a lot of the streamers
that are kind of like leaders, like voices of their classes will have, like Max just yeah
like I'm choosing this hero talent please don't ask me.
Maybe we need that kind of thing across the stream.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe we need like a Pint message or something.
I just you know I watch the stream whenever I'm not on and I've just constantly
seeing people go like, oh, I guess they didn't make progress today. Even my mom asked me.
She was like, have they done their reclears yet? Why is the boss percent not dropping?
She was watching earlier and I'm like, mom, we're pin over this. Yeah. Yeah.
There we go. The air, thank you. Boss percent is fake for half the five.
Very good. Just keep that going. That comic sense is really giving me something.
Leave it. Put it like more in the middle. Can we move it up a little bit?
Yeah, just put it across. Just cover up our faces. It's fine.
Just everywhere. We'll allow it.
everywhere. Oh, no. Oopsie. It's only two. Yeah. But now you have the challenge of putting
them back there. So yeah, we potentially could get another tumble. Oh, oh, here we go. Okay.
Yeah, another one, another one that we get asked a lot that frustrates me is did did
they extend? Did they extend their lockout? See my mom asked me the same thing. I think
your mom. Unfortunately, so they they did re clear. Oh, what
just happened? I think you got offered a milkshake, but she
remembered you didn't want one. So she off she went. Oh, see,
you said that out loud and now Chad's gonna be like, Yeah,
you didn't want a milkshake. The lump go. Is that bad? I
don't know. Do we need? Sorry. What? I'm so cute overreacts.
You know, I have purple in my nails. That's because you
You did the makeup, right? For his alatom?
What makeup?
Right. But you did.
I did. I did. I did the makeup.
Can we thank Ayah for doing that makeup? It looks so good.
Did it really?
I was... Do you know how hard it is to get makeup over a beard?
Yeah.
That's insane.
Especially...
I think it looked really good.
He was going like this the whole time, like...
I was trying to get kind of like cover his eyes and he'd be like...
I know I've seen this face try putting moisturizer on the man. They look like that. There's a good spirit
I just have a vivid memory of my dad putting on sunscreen on his own face
Yeah, just like put a giant glob of it and just yeah
You missed everywhere
Like a mask on him. Goodness. Where your sunscreen? Oh
Well, if you're just now tuning in
The Raiders are just getting back from dinner. They had their milkshakes. They had their Dragon Slayer special as Heidi likes to put it
It's one of my favorite meals that she makes. Yeah, it's so good. Oh, it's good
I the gravy I alone I could eat it as soup. I mean, I feel like it could be like a good au jus for like a
Sandwich, I don't know what that word is. But yeah, I'm down like for like a French dip more of that gravy
Yes, you like dip a front you dip a step. Yeah, we had that before and then Jeff called it a Philly cheese and that was horrible
That was the worst take I've ever seen and he's got some takes if you follow him on Twitter
He do be having did was a Philly cheesesteak sandwich was yeah the worst one
But yeah, they've got there got their lunch break
They've got their food buff and maybe we'll see some some more progression on the fight because it did seem like before
We're heading into that very romantic date that we all witnessed
They were getting consistently to the place that they needed to get before we actually start seeing maybe like a chunk of the actual
Health come off of the boss. Yeah, that's right
So we did already learn a bunch about this fight. Now notably mythic end bosses
We usually don't have a lot of information on what exactly is awaiting us because these are not tested
Which means that we have the dungeon journal and even that doesn't tell you everything
So it's always a little bit of a surprise for example
They went in here and while the froth is listed in the dungeon journal. We didn't know that it would ramp up
So that is something we've found out.
It goes two, three, four until the face is over.
And then on the ad face, there is that portal that we knew about.
But for example, we didn't know how many portals would there be.
How long would we have?
And so it's continuous.
But once you get a push on a mob, you can actually skip one.
So that is something they've been looking for.
It's very good.
OK.
Is that attended?
Yes.
OK.
And so you can only go through the portal once, because then you get a debuff.
And so it is kind of time-gated how many portals you have for the entire phase.
And since you always need to switch players, you can have at most 10.
We're sending tanks first, and then healers, and then kind of one after another.
It's always payers.
So it is kind of time-gated on how long you can be in that ad phase.
And once you kill a mop off, you don't need to actually hop into the portal.
It'll finish it off if you are finishing that platform.
Now on that first platform, everything was kind of as expected.
There's some extra webbing, some AOEs and chaos as mythic fights tend to have.
That second platform, however, we suddenly had some Acolyte spawn in.
And on the other side, there was an extra melee mop, but the raiders seem to be getting
ready for a poll, so let's have a look and just talk through what's going on here.
T.H.E.
What do you up? Nice and comfy this morning?
A lot of people think I have a lot of caffeine. No, I just have ADHD.
Yeah, see, I did the same thing when I'm on camera. I'm always holding my foot because otherwise the balance is...
I didn't even notice I was wiggling. I'm sorry. I'm always wiggling. Sorry about that.
No, that is the way. That is the way.
So, we are going to be taking a look here at this boss.
Boss now the raiders already got it pretty far into that face to that is the
Royal ascension, but first we need to get through P1 and
Through that intermission P1 is what's happening right now. You're seeing the double frosts every single time you're hopping into these
You're gonna get heated into the air and the more we get the harder this mechanic becomes which is why this boss actually has
One of the hardest phase ones we've seen in a long time
interesting front-loaded
Mechanics well, we don't we it could be front and back. Yes, okay fair looking at this mob. It might be more back loaded
Okay, we're pessimists today
Referring to the character model, but okay. Yeah
Okay, sorry that one Wow you made a joke. Yeah, it doesn't happen
We're okay.
I don't blame you.
Oh.
So, yeah, we are on the triple froths now, if I'm not mistaken.
It should be, yeah, the triple set.
You can always see that star is being joined right at the start.
They're basically going in there very early, and then the other two after one another.
And for that quadruple froth, you need to be so on time.
It's really like one second between the froths that you can go for.
And if they're too early or too late, the entire rate goes boom, so that's going to
be happening in a little bit.
Well we also have these tindrel roots that this time around they're webs, but you can
still avoid them the same way you can avoid the tindrel roots.
So we're trying to bring classes like that paladin that can just freedom it, ignore
it, lots of good stuff there.
And then we are going to get that quadruple froth set and that is going to be spicy.
Jack was calling it a quad froth this morning.
It sounds like a cursed drink at Starbucks or something like that.
Yeah, I was like, for me, I don't know if it's like the German tongue, but like it's so hard for me to pronounce the word froth
froth
Yeah, it's so flat. It's a weird word. It's a icky word. I don't I don't know why it's called a froth either. It doesn't
It's like the foam on top of a wave, right?
But this is the one so let's take a look here
We have all of the waves out the rate is fairly low and once that cast that she just finishes right now
We're gonna get a lot of rate damage and unfortunately that did take down one of her players
I believe it's a ribbon sats on the floor there rest of the players are alive
They're gonna be trying to get through this intermission here as far as they can and while we were bloodlusting this yeah
We're still doing that
Gonna be trying to newt this shield even further you can see the shield on the bar on the screen there in the
middle for Shikik
Around about
250 million left that they need to deal with and of course
They are all so slowly but truly running out of space, which is why you want to get through this quickly.
I found a comment Chad that I wanted to read for you. Oh, where did it go?
It was it was a question for you. Oh, it said, uh, said no progress yet?
The percentage is the same.
I'm not I can't believe you would read that out. I'm not even it was I thought it was a joke at first
Okay, we're taking a look at our ad face here because this is what we've been working on
You can see the portal in the back left corner first person has already gone through every single time players go through
It comes through with a debuff that needs to be dispelled which makes this void puddle that you're seeing there
This is the first platform that one as far as we expected as kind of where it's at
It does have a little bit of extra a we stuff on the floor, so you're gonna be a little bit in danger here
but other than that they should be having a grand old time and you're once again
seeing the portal in the back left corner that players are swapping through
and then we kill this off, get yeeted, and then we open the bridge and this is
where our acolytes come in. You can see the other team in the top right corner
and one side has two acolytes just coming from the ceiling and the
other one has a I believe it's called a commander an extra melee at
that's coming in there, we're on the Acolyte side
and that is just something that no one really expected.
And we don't really know what they do once they die.
Cause in the dungeon journal there's an ability
where they drop something, which we thought was only phase three.
But it might be here too.
Huh.
Which if it is, whew, I'm kind of terrified.
Yeah, a lot of mystery.
It's funny how we, we chilled Silk in court
a lot earlier than I think people were expecting.
And I was like, oh, OK, maybe this tier will last around
like Thursday.
And then we got into this fight.
It's like, maybe not.
Now I'm hearing Friday, midday, Saturday.
Our flights got extended to Sunday.
So not a lot of consistent.
No one knows what's going on, basically.
No one knows exactly what's going to end.
Well, that's just kind of the nature
of how these mythic end bosses look, right?
A lot of it comes down to not knowing what you can expect
and for the guilds, usually that's what they love.
So they really enjoy being able to figure out these bosses
where they kind of haven't seen it yet.
They only know the heroic version.
They're getting a lot of information from testing.
It's a lot about how quick can you adapt to things
rather than plan them out.
So I think people really, really enjoy that myth again.
bosses are not covered like that.
Yeah. Also slightly off topic.
Oh, Trill made top six in A WC.
Let's go with the team liquid team.
He's here on site and today are the qualifying matches for A WC,
which is this weekend.
And I know that it was a little bit of a worry if Trill was going to be in
on this fight, how they were going to manage to, you know, still commit to
A.W.C. which he was already committed to so kind of a hard thing to just be like yeah, sorry, we're still proggy
and then obviously
Not abandoned the guild also. So it seemed like everything went well
He kind of came out of his cave of of of PvP and threw his fists up in the air
And now he's gonna get back down to business. So I do wonder if he's gonna be in on this fight
I love that you said get back to business because all I can hear is the Mulan song but
business
big big
New thing that we're seeing I don't know if it was already happening during the previous shift, but
Rivens is in on the Shatter Priest. So that is something that was
Discussed maybe from some people expected Shatter Priest with this reset got a 4% or above
So they are a little bit stronger now and we kind of already hurt
Whispers through the grapevine that that would be happening. I believe we set a warrior for him
So Bumi is still in, Riku's out and Rivence is in on that Shadow Priest, just a class that's pretty good at a lot of consistent damage as far as I know, but we maybe want to hear from our ranged player casters once our Xalatath is back to normal.
Yeah, they keep reworking Shadow Priest, so I don't know what the current damage profile of Shadow Priest is.
I do think they still have like a good execute, so maybe that's what they're expecting to have,
because I knew that there is that final burn phase on this.
I think it's mostly for the shield, so in this ad phase, there's just one ad that just has one health,
but a giant shield, and then you also have the intermission, so I would imagine that a shadow priest can do really well there.
Um, but we are, we are still awarding that since it was only brought in,
we're seeing how that goes.
Also real quick, I do want to give a shout out to our Brazilian fans
because we do have a Brazil stream going on.
So if you'd like to have Portuguese coverage,
twitch.tv slash team liquid VR and they are covering the broadcast
over there for the Brazilian fans.
Not at Brazil.
No, nothing at all.
You're good. Oh, really? I can't hear him. Can you? Can you know I can hear him?
You good? Can you guys hear Kims? Oh, Chad is spamming come to Brazil. I would
love to. Good job. Oh, now I can hear him. There we go. Yeah. Hello. Hello. That's
gonna say. Where have you been? Oh, it's just out. Okay. What's up?
Yeah, we had Zalatath here. It was a great embarrassment for Tettles.
It was. Yeah, you should have seen it. He was, I thought it was gonna be okay. Yeah, he went on a date.
He was getting pumped up. He was getting advice from everybody here in the building.
I don't know. I don't know if it went that well.
Yeah, just see her risk.
Him or her. What's the reason?
Tettles or Zalatath.
Was she just not into it, or is he?
She went home with a waiter instead, it was kind of desperate too.
I know, I know, yeah.
We're not judgmental like Get It Girl, but kind of weird.
Yep.
Wait, is that the spider restaurant, that waiter?
That guy, yeah.
You know that guy?
Yeah, I guess.
Weird.
He's weird.
Yeah, he like.
Yeah.
Oh my god.
Should we talk about a waiter?
Yeah, we could.
Okay.
Yeah, we'll talk about a waiter.
Yeah.
What's that?
Gossip?
Gossip.
Answer it.
So what have I missed? I've been a little
preoccupied. See, they're getting
to this animation with everybody live, which is nice.
Yeah, so we're going to take
another look at the intermission here, but in the meantime
while we're taking a look at those portals
and those switches, Kams, I have a question
for you because we brought in the Shatter Priest
and we're going to expect you to
explain all of that once we see how this
fight this pole is working out here so you can see that I have assigned players
for every single of these portals. First one is working out thus far.
Unfortunately, Big Poppy has been knocked down so next one is going to be
Enfired Up Andranico and we will see them go through that portal rather late
and then here will someone come out and someone missed it. So one of the two
players wasn't able to make that portal.
Shadow Priest. Do they need another Master Spell or?
That would be a good question to ask them.
The PI's nice, they did get buffed, they're probably okay damage now.
But maybe it's just
to feel it out. Unfortunately they're bringing in a new character.
Did they do splits for him? Yeah, I'm pretty sure
that when they saw the class tuning,
Max already said, oh Shadow Priest, so I think it's probably a damage profile question,
and they do extra damage to shields, right? Or is that wrong? Like I'm pretty sure they do,
so I think it's just very good for the ad and for the intermission, that kind of situation,
and you can see, well. Yeah, that's a little low, but he's also still learning to fight.
Yeah, true. Shadow Priest also.
I wonder why they only brought him in now.
Yeah, I'm curious for that as well.
Because what can they do that he's got his boomkin ribbon?
He played it on Rue Twister.
They're similar damage profile.
I'm not too caught up on Shadow Priest right now
because so much has changed.
Is it one of the hero talents that does the shield damage?
Yeah, I think so okay because it looks like they've dropped it they have a voker they drop the warrior
Oh, they dropped a warrior can't see on scott's frame, but they dropped Riku who wasn't on here before and they brought in revins
Yeah, does someone in chat know oh, yeah here at town that does more damage shields. Okay, that could be the whole reason
So it was buffed on this reset 4% was the both that came in that's when max said like oh revins on Tradipri
So maybe they know more than us.
But there is a whole lot of shields in this fight.
I messaged him and they said, Rivens has good vibes.
So they're not spilling their secrets either, which is completely fine.
Yeah, that sounds like them, to be honest.
We talked to Max yesterday and he was saying like,
oh, with the class tuning, there's definitely some things they have in mind
that they want to do for this fight.
Rivens is one or if not the thing that he was referencing there. Okay. He hid this from us last night
I asked him in the interview if they're taking class changes in mind. Yeah, he kind of hinted at it
He dodged it. Yeah, I get it. I wanted to straight up ask him shadow priest, but I knew that he would
Probably be a liar. Yeah
You don't want to give away what you're doing right at reset. I respect that
Very sneaky about it
Yeah, I'm trying to think of what they can do other than that shield damage that a warlock can't do
What did we stop out? I'm sorry or another warrior warrior, okay the warrior
Yeah, people bring it up that the ad with the shield has one HP and it's not like one HP full health
It's like one HP with like no house. You can like shadow or death and execute
Fade on it
It's so there's the intermission that has a giant shield, right? That's the one that we're currently lasting
And then there is that ad that has the shield.
And I believe the Acolyse, I might be making this up,
but I believe the Acolyse and P3 should also have shields.
So there is definitely a lot of shielding going on in this fight.
Yeah, the evokers, I think, believe it's called unravel.
They have an ability that attacks only shields.
I think you can get that on preservation too.
I think that might be in the class tree.
We're definitely running a lot of lizards.
Yeah, this is such a weird comp.
given like the beginning of the raid and what everybody was thinking would be played
and you look at it now and it's like you know only two mages only one warrior
and then dad but not aug and then the red pally with the holy pally
they're about to slot like a boomkin or a feral and
call it really yeah um this is interesting void weaver as i know that gives him increased
damage and insanity when they use shadow work done on a shielded purgant.
Yeah, so he should be doing more damage.
So that ad is made for shadow precinct for some reason.
Because like when else is that happening other than like PvP?
Yeah. Very weird.
I mean there's an entire boss fight that was made for Frosty K so
it's not that weird to me. True.
just like such a maybe that it's just for science they want to look at the logs and be like okay how
much did this thing really do yeah they missed a they double popped there i think that's probably
also why they only brought them in now where they know they're at that phase so it's it could be a
test run where they're just saying okay we'll try to get a phase where we see that ad and we see
what shadow please does with it and then depending on how that goes they might bring riko back in
or keep Rivens.
I mean, Chef Priest also in the last phase seems pretty good.
You've got adds all over the place to dot up,
and I was talking to Ciori a little bit,
and he's saying it gets really hard in that second phase
because you have to send people through the portals.
But then you want to keep an even balance of ranged
because of adds that spawn that can't be cleaved by melee,
so ranged have to deal with them.
Yeah, so one side, we were just seeing another glimpse of it,
but we saw it this noon already as well.
One side gets a commander, I believe they're called,
so a big Maliad, and then the other side gets two Acolytes
that need to be interrupted,
but Mali's can't really attack them that well,
so you kind of want to, at the beginning,
you can switch even, or you want to go up
with one side having more Mali,
and the other having more ranged,
and then depending on what happens on that third platform,
you might want to switch again.
It's just important that everybody can only go once,
So that'll matter
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Bernie crusade and vanilla. Oh
Unfortunate and I think there's no way I'm getting a vanilla
Say unless someone like Blizzard sometimes Blizzard has some leftover. That's how I got a raft
Collectors. Oh, what did they sell it to you or no, they just gave it to us
Yeah, so they had like when they closed the France office
They had like some leftovers there and they were like you can have one and I had to choose. Whoa
Oh, yeah, but I'm not sure if they had vanilla. I don't know if that vanilla. I think it was burning crusade kata
Wrath, okay, classic Wow
Collectors, I just want to yeah, it's a couple bands. I believe yeah, I believe so too
Quite expensive especially if you want one that's like still and do you keep them in the foil? No there
I opened them there. No, they look nice still they do I have them opened as well
yeah, I've I
I had a friend who worked at Blizzard who actually gave me the code for the Burning Crusade edition.
So I have the pet and stuff, so I could buy an opened, used Burning Crusade for the box, because I have that.
Yeah.
And then I would just be missing the vanilla that's worth about a car.
Yeah.
I can't find...
I don't think...
Yeah, they're hard to find too.
I don't think they're easy to find at all.
Yeah, the only one I found on eBay was...
It was all...
Someone in chat is saying you can find open classic collector sedition on eBay sometimes
I got one for a few hundred instead of a few bands. Yeah, this one. Maybe you just need to snipe them. It's
$450 and the codes are used and it's a little beat up, but
The box kind of has a beat-up look. Oh, yeah, maybe it is just the box. Oh, yeah, okay. It's actually just a box
Look from the box
four three yeah 450 and so I would have thought it'd be like more but I guess
because it's open it's yeah I remember I got mine and I opened it on stream
people don't open it don't open it now I always open it yeah you got the
vanilla one or no no I shot only I have the shadow lands one and or the
dragonflight one yeah we're with it okay yeah I have rats
Do you have Legion? I might have Legion. I need I actually would need to check. I for sure have dragonfly war within BFA
Wrath and I think also Legion, but I'm not not a hundred percent on this
Started collecting a little later. Yeah, I mean you can buy one that's open now and just hope that those pets go into a twitch
Drop or something
Then you got them both
That's true. Would you buy it to like have the the extra goodies or would you buy it just to have it?
It would be at one point
I really wanted the pets because I had like I was a collector
But then the collecting got so crazy and then also the rating ramped up that I was doing so it's hard to do both
There's one one point. I would have liked it, but now
It'd be nice to like feel
Feel complete, but yeah, it's not worth $10,000
Like if I got it, I might just be like I'm just gonna sell this thing.
Ha ha ha.
There.
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Also, a winner has been chosen for the giveaway.
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I mean, Slacker Boy.
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We were kind of, I'm sure there's been speculation on how long this boss will
take, but we did some last night. They were making some progress in P1, but what was scaring
me was P1 does not look easy, and generally end bosses with a hard P1 that you rarely
get through with everybody alive is a bad sign if you think the boss is going to die
quick.
Oh, I never thought it was going to die quick. We're here for a little while.
Yeah, we're at almost a hundred poles and they're still trying to like feel their way through like the first half of this fight.
It's pretty crazy.
It's better hard.
The intermission I thought was going to be, or not the intermission, sorry, phase two, that would be kind of breezy,
but I guess they cranked that up with the portals and the weird like melee range balance that they're having to do.
Yeah, I think a lot of people when they see an ad phase on a fight, particularly an end boss, they're like,
I don't want to go there ad phase, the boss is not attackable, what are we doing here?
And I feel like Blizzard kind of looked at that and said, bet.
So now we have an ad phase that's just completely cranked to the max,
and there's a lot that's going on there, and I think maybe some people will change their mind
on how ad phases on bosses could look, and whether or not they're like them.
Yeah, cuz on razzikath the little brick side platforms with the ads I think we're kind of lame
Like you just it seemed easy, but this one is at least interesting
I think the portals are cool. The ads are like impactful
But razzikath felt like you're just a wing stuff down. I know they were like interrupts that they'd rotate, but I
Know I'd have to I haven't actually seen their pull out a little busy
They were easy oh, yeah
Yeah, well it's the hardest part was getting over there.
Exactly, yeah.
He's like, okay, time to lose half the group because they don't know how to aim their body.
Yeah, when I first saw this fight I was like, there's no way they did it again.
Yeah, multiple times actually.
It was like the LFR groups are pre-screening.
I feel like in LFR you should have like an extra ground effect that tells you you need to stand here.
Yeah, yeah.
Kind of boy, the ping system is going to help.
Yeah.
I love the ping system.
Yeah, I'm actually not bounded yet.
I don't know where to put it.
I have it on the default, I think it's G.
G?
Okay.
For which?
Oh, ping?
Ping.
Yeah.
My favorite thing is every time I summon someone, I can out ping where I am and people
will actually react for once.
Oh, to click, yeah.
Yeah.
Great tech.
Right, it's kinda wild to take that long to get a ping.
And I would argue we should get even more, personally speaking.
I agree.
Yeah, I would love a ping that's like, interrupt.
Yeah, or...
I need healing.
Question mark.
Yeah, question mark.
I think the question mark would be very fun.
I need a slash spit ping.
Yeah, please bring that back.
That'd be nice.
Kinda silly.
So it looks like they're coming up on the fourth set of froths?
Yes, so we're going to be getting our fourth set of froths in.
Or the set of four?
Yeah, the quadruple froth.
And a little bit.
Here it is.
So Star is going to get yeeted instantly, and then we go circle, pink, green.
You can see the boss is going to be standing a little bit to the side so that the mullies get some uptime where they can.
and in goes star next up circle and then we do pink and green right after another
these are unfortunately does go down here and now you don't have a whole lot of
time to top people up because the boss is gonna do damage now and that will
take people really really low but they managed to survive just that and now
it's all about living this phase you can see the tanks trying to get some
extra space for the rest of the group some of the decays are on the
other side because they know they don't need to run that far out so they can stand a couple
of them.
And that is going to be the name of the game.
I guess all there really is to do in this phase is to conserve space a little because
every time they get yoinked it does a little puddle drop, correct?
Yeah.
Okay, and then they just have to stay away from their friends.
And that happens on the platforms as well by the way.
Oh!
So during the ad phase you also run out of space.
What?
Yes.
It's an insane ad phase but we're going to take another look.
So three players are dead, but we are be lining for those portals.
First ones are spawning and players are going to be getting that weak aura on their screens
if they have it.
It just doesn't seem to have it, but yeah, Impact did have it.
You can see it pop up there next to this fired up adrenaline cone.
You can see that the portals in the background there, but they want to push it so they
are trying to get this boss dead before this timer runs out.
This time around, Fardev and Drennicoke did have to switch.
But they did so, and they're now getting knocked back up to that first platform.
And here you're going to see those webs once again.
You're going to give you a little ground effect.
And the next portal.
I saw he had bait beam on impact, so they must run somewhere to bait that.
Take gate, go right.
And bait beam, and deal with this little puddle drop thing.
It's trying to get to his gate.
Yeah, so he's going really late, and then he's supposed to go to the right
side to get the spelt there because every time you get the spelt you leave that puddle and that ticks for a lot
So if you leave a puddle in a portal itself and the person that's portaling after you is kind of getting plonked
Okay, they'll be ported into a puddle. Yeah, there's a lot going on there. I know it's a lot
I mean, I only saw this
Like the platform section really like I think one time before I was off the desk. So
It's a lot all it wants a lot of new a lot of new
Stuff on mythic between heroic and mythic and a lot of overlaps to yeah, it's just to
It's they kind of set this to dratness earlier today. They kind of said
How many mechanics do you want to deal with at the same time and Blizzard went? Yes? Yeah
And that is how that ad face was made or do you know those videos where they like pour water into a big bucket?
I would say like, difficult mechanics and the water bucket goes in, overlaps and the water bucket goes in.
Interrupts required.
Bucket goes in.
AoE ground effect bucket goes in.
Healing.
Green stuff.
It's just a lot.
Even like going into the intermission they're like why not just blast the raid for 80% of their health right here.
And then the adds, there's puddles and portals and the little like dodging the balls.
Like when they split up to kill the ads before they get knocked up. They just piled a bunch of things on here
This fight seems very fun for the analysts actually
There's a lot to like try and figure out we're like something like Kai Vezza was very like once they got something that worked
He's like, okay. We'll just watch the Raiders run this back over and over
You know, maybe move some personals or something around to help with like pain points, but this one
You know, they've got so many notes popping off
on their screen from their add-on.
There's that one, it was like bait beam,
and they're getting pulled, and all these things at once.
So it's like they're planning out just all these little movements
right when they get in there to be like, OK,
we'll try and bait the beam, because I'm assuming they
had to go right on top of the portal or something like that,
and that's why they baited off of it.
I wonder how it works to beam.
I haven't seen too many of the bait beams just yet
to figure out how exactly the angle on it works.
But we're going to be trying to take a look if we can get back into that intermission.
Well, not intermission, actually phase two.
That's going to be, I keep calling it intermission as well.
Me too, because it's an ad phase.
Like that should be the intermission, but it is phase two.
Yeah, intermission from the boss, and then the intermission has the boss.
And I wonder how long the shadow priests last.
If it's going to stay this whole way, or if this is just kind of like,
Let's get to the low health shield add and see how much he cranks it.
Or maybe it is a Master Spell reason.
I can't imagine it's a Master Spell because it's only one Dispel for a Portal.
And you have four healers on this fight. So why do you need the Master Spell?
Just drop a healer. I don't know if that was good for you.
So just for the Dispel, I don't think fear that close that you would need that.
Even if you were running three healers
But speaking off healer. I think if if there's any changes to the healer comp we might go three
And that will be insane because you can see how much damage goes out onto the entire raid all the time basically
Yeah, yeah, I don't think it's very likely
I am happy to see shadow prusa minutes basically every specks made the list now of
of use of this raid?
Miss Leaver, Rest of Druid.
Yeah, we're going to have the Tealers there, Cal.
They're probably crying in a corner right now.
We also, I don't think we've seen the Protection Pally
or the Protection Warrior.
Yeah, I think a Prop Pally was tried on Kyveza
potentially. And also Survival Hunter.
So there's a couple of specs, but very, very few given
How this race has been going.
Did we see a frostmich? I know we saw a firemage in some reclears today. I don't know if frostmich was played.
I think frost has been tried. I forget where.
You're a VR cane.
Nick's definitely having fun here.
Yes, he's a preservation evoker.
He's giggling.
They're tanky. They're having fun.
They're tanky. They're strong.
He's pressing numbers.
They're kind of fun. I should have leveled mine. I was kind of doomer on a voker because of augmentation. I don't want to play it
But now August the worst spec it looks like
I'm down for that
Yeah, poor rest or drew it and miss weaver like you want, you know, maybe mix up your little throughput healers and
Preservation just does so much. It's like you sorry. There's no room for you
because they didn't nerf preservation. They didn't even touch it.
Just kind of, you know, they're, you know, a thousand changes to arcane mage.
I think given how good we are on the DPS balance for the most part this time,
it is the healers that have taken that bullet.
Yeah. Just kind of, I mean, it sucks for the raid stuff,
but they're always going to play a metacomp.
You know, if you're doing mythic, the mythic pluses are not easy.
And so if you're, you know, not a preservation evoker, I feel like it's, you're being punished in some way.
You could make it so much easier just by being a lizard.
Max was speaking about that yesterday, saying that they have, so a blizzard historically, very rarely,
or doesn't like to nerf classes that are clearly very strong, something like warriors for now,
for now or like that arcane mage or even the preservation evoker because then
guilds have put so much effort into gearing a certain thing to then be like
that's not good now anymore and that would feel really bad so they try to
bring the rest of the classes to a comparable level but I think with the
healer balance this time around there's definitely been some oversize
Yeah, I mean, and that has also been an oversight. We went we went double-dippin
Double pop. Are you coming around the poppers? Nope? I do not like the word poppers
So that's what the guild calls people so the the froth works in a way where there's a circle being dropped
It's a debuff on a player it drops and then everybody stands in that circle and one person goes in the middle to send it
And the guilt called the poppers
I like it. I
sounds so bad
party popper
no i don't like it
so i was telling her a little jalapeno popper
yeah i love a good jalapeno popper
yeah pop it in
we have the poppers they have to spread it out
like one second apart it's a small window
but those two that they stack
like right on the boss
i don't like that
i'm gonna go out and say i do not like how they're doing it
the last one
i mean they get through it
but sometimes
you mean the quadruple one
They have two pumps that there's both like right on the boss. Oh, the two melee camps. Yeah, it seems so very sketch
Here's the reasoning
With that many froths you need to kind of they do damage and they do damage depending on how many people are in there
So you want to soak with as many people as possible
And if you want to also let the Mellies have some uptime you can only put them there basically
Because if you make the Mellies run out, you're going to lose up time, which is just end.
Because everything you do to the boss in this space matters for the long run.
And we might as well end up in P3 and have seen the entire fight dealt with the mechanics
and then have an exhaust on our hand, where it's like, oh, I guess we need another 30%,
and then you're going to revisit and do this the hard way.
Yeah, but it also I mean say that they I don't know their consistency on that
I see them wipe it a bit to it, but if it's holding you back
I mean you can technically get through it
But if it holds progress back a lot, I I don't think it's worth it. Maybe I'm overstating
how difficult it is but
Because they wiped there a lot last night, but they were kind of trying to figure it out. Mm-hmm
I think it's definitely something that needs practice
But for the most part they've been getting there. It's more people dying in that overlay that kind of
Fawnstone, which I don't think is because of how they're sending these. I think it's just there's a lot of damage that's happening and
So everybody needs to kind of be ready
To set up that to stop
Having their defensive ready. I guess they always are doing to that close so they just do the same thing each time
Exactly. Yeah, it's a melee camp. It's just very scary
You know I want to do damage too
Yeah, I want to live on a CP3
on CP2
I
Give me me. I don't want to go as far as I say Jailor but Jailor had a crazy P1 very inconsistent
lots of random deaths
Personal responsibility, you know, this is last week or a
filled
But I remember watching the Jailer, you know, and everybody was kind of like how long is this raid gonna go?
I was especially so the liquid people who were like newer to last up. Yeah, I was like this boss seems crazy
They're like oh, so like another couple days, and it's like no
Very funny
So I'm feeling a little bit of that here with this this P1 is crazy
easy. And maybe P3 will not be as bad, it's just about getting to it with everybody alive
and like a good strategy. Sometimes that's the case with an emboss. We'll just have to
see.
I made it through everyone in life we are in that intermission here and once again it's
all about preserving some of the space that you have to try and stay in the space as
securely as you can. Because if you run out of space, you did. And that is not
what we want so we want to try and burst a shield. I'm wondering the last time they sent
that bloodlust really late. I'm wondering if they're going to do that again to try and carried
over into the last couple of ads. Or if they just said now, we don't need it, we'll do
it without the bloodlust. Seems like that is the case.
Thanks. Why isn't there a health movie? What's happening?
I am. What's going on? Where's my prod?
Here. You're going to get another percent out of here. It's a little cheese. You
There it is. Okay.
Um, and now she's immune again.
Oh!
Oh!
But I want to see Prague.
You are seeing Prague.
We're gonna be killing Disad here.
Fired up Andrenico are gonna be switching.
And that went wrong.
No Prague.
Darn it.
But what's good until here?
It's just very volatile.
So that's mostly what's been killing them, the portal mechanic?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, so it's...
Someone just has the portal spawns
And then has like a 15 second timer, I believe and if nobody goes in it in that 15 seconds
It just blows up. Yeah on most players frames you can see the cast bar ticking down
So that's how I know it's fired up in Drinoco on that one
Where one stat goes to zero and you see those names on there. It's over
I believe yep
It's the only one that doesn't have it and they also
Started with sending tanks in and they're not doing that anymore
So, okay, I wonder if that costs a lot of problems for the tanks to get there
Yeah, that makes sense because if you if you get a debuff where you can't go through the portal again for a few minutes
It's like would be nice to just get it over with on the tanks on
That seems like the easiest part of that phase and so you could just say like we get a free
debuff out on the tanks because I don't think they'll
Well, some of those ads just kind of cast in P2. Maybe the tank can like do a little swap. Maybe there's some room
milk shake cams yeah I did I didn't I took a couple sips oh okay only a
couple yeah I'm gonna watch my figure right yeah we're needing a lot in here
a lot of Halloween candy did chat already say happy birthday Scott I mentioned
it a few times throughout the day but yeah we can do another one yeah birthday
Scott happy birthday Scott okay he got his strawberry milkshake because I guess
He likes strawberry things, so Heidi made him a strawberry milkshake, and we had a milkshake party.
Yeah, so she sent out a survey to all of the Raiders, and one of the questions was,
what is the trait you would like for your birthday?
Very sneaky.
She just asks everyone, and then whenever somebody has a birthday?
She knows.
She knows, and she does something.
I believe Hoof is also coming up.
I don't know when, it might be Sunday.
Who's Twitter? Let me check it out.
It might be Sunday.
put for your birthday treat. I
wouldn't ask. Oh yeah, the casters
weren't asked. At least none of the
non liquid casters. I was gonna say I
got it but like yeah I was your team.
I was probably yeah I was probably a
mistake. Yeah we didn't we didn't get it.
We still people. Let me look up.
Because it was Bart's birthday last
time right? Did he get something? Uh I
don't think so. I don't know. Yeah
We didn't have a sneaky
Okay, I saw it for a little bit when I loaded it and then it disappeared this website is fresh
Okay, hold on click on it really fast September 30th
So yeah, I don't know
That's Monday, right?
Yes, yeah, maybe we won't be here anymore. Yeah
I hope we don't, in the nicest way possible, I hope we don't celebrate Goop's birthday here.
Here. Yes. Yes.
Maybe, you know, like, sometimes the raiders are here a couple days after the tears over, so...
That's true. Yeah.
It could end, you know, Friday and some of them might simply lingering.
Yeah, true, true.
We could do an early celebration, maybe.
Yeah. Hopefully with the kill, it would be a good birthday present.
nice world first well the important thing is that we're not going to be here for my
birth and we're all agreeing on that so that's good when's your birthday 6th of
October oh yeah that's yeah that's a ways away that's that well not that long
anymore now that's true you're right wait this is so bad if I click on
someone's profile it shows their birthday for half a second and it
disappears bro stop wishing me a happy early birthday that brings bad
luck in my culture. Does it actually? Yeah, it does. Oh, stop it. Sermons don't do that. Stop it, chat.
I don't know. I think it's like Eastern European thing. Don't you also pour cinnamon on yourself
when you turn 25? We do what? What do we do? Oh, maybe this is in Germany. I thought you poured
cinnamon. Maybe this is Sweden. You poured cinnamon on yourself when you turned 25? Well,
I'm older than 25 and I didn't do any of the cinnamon pouring, so if that is the thing
We do I don't know about it, but we do have a lot of like a sub-regional things. I'm thinking of another. Oh, that's Denmark Denmark Denmark
Okay, and I mean, I don't know why I just saw it
Yes, like the what yeah, I was like
What's that James? I said you have to ask flat. I believe that's where he's from then mark
I heard so yeah
Doesn't break on me
Let's see. Let's see. Hold on. Pause.
We have a lot of weird traditions for people who are unmarried at the 30, I think.
But I think those are kind of weird.
What are they?
Like, um...
I believe unmarried men, when they turn 30, they have to like sweep the doors of the, like, city hall
that they look like it's very weird, and then somebody has to kiss them free.
It's very strange.
What?
It's not a good ch- I'm not a fan of it.
Yeah?
How often you just, every once in a while I'll go out there and there's a guy sweeping and you get kissing.
I've never seen it but I know a lot of people who celebrated it that way so.
That's the poor guy.
Well you could, it could be worse. Australians have a weird one. They just drink beer out of a shoe.
Yeah, shoey. That's the next guy we got.
I'll pass.
Yeah.
Yeah, like every once in a while I'll meet a German who had to do that. I'm like, why?
Could've just said no.
Yeah, I think you just said no.
Somebody! Somebody!
How is that weird?
Okay, don't speak of the Shui!
I summoned the Australians!
My bad!
Don't speak ill of the Shui.
So sorry.
When did- when does the Shui...
happen?
Yeah, when does it happen? Apparently it's not on your birthday.
Year B, I'm traveling to Germany to sweep floors and get kissed.
Oh, yak.
You just fake it
Take that ring off grab a broom
I'm sorry. I don't mean to keep going back on this big old whenever you want any occasion. It's just for fun. Okay. Oh
Okay, all right like a drinking rich old Australian do not help in your case here Saturday night. Yes, that's Saturday night
It happens when you're feeling like a true hero. I wish like an Australian on the desk
It's like it's like a bit that they do right we're like sometimes instead of the normal beer
They just drink it out of a shoe
But I'm pretty sure they have like designated chewy shoes no I don't know dude
They just take the one are you are you drinking beer with one foot on shoot?
Yeah, you just take it off of your foot
Someone called dark night cuz I'm still cuz then you have to put it back on and it's gonna be wet. Yeah, that's
Let's...
Yeah, I don't know which part is worse, drinking it out of a shoe?
Or putting it near your shoe after you put beer in it.
Also, wouldn't it come out of the shoe?
Like, wouldn't you lose a lot of the beer to the shoe?
You wear it afterwards?
You use the shoe of an unwrit German man.
Okay, okay, new subject.
Is Australia?
What is going on down there?
Someone needs to check on them.
We've left them too long isolated in their own continent.
What is the hell?
Bro.
Bro.
Honestly, I think the Australian accent is one of the most charming ones in like the
English accents.
Yeah.
Was that a DPS check mist?
Maybe.
It looks like it.
They all died with a shield.
Very low.
Did they have everyone alive?
Sorry, I was distracted by the shoes.
Yeah, they insta-wiped.
I'm imagining a PPS check.
Shad is like, no it isn't.
I think it depends.
That's a very toy.
What do you think is the nicest English-speaking accent?
Both of you.
Like native English speakers.
You can't pick like French people.
South African accent.
South African?
Yeah, sounds nice or yeah.
Yeah?
Hams?
Like they have to speak it.
They're born there.
Yeah, native English speakers.
Not Chinese.
That was your short list?
Well, I do like Scottish accents.
Yeah, Scots are also. Scottish, Irish, I like that too.
Yeah, we've got a Scottish dude in the building.
Don't they, do they not speak something else there?
In Scotland?
In Gaelic or whatever?
Or is that old?
It depends a bit.
So Welsh and Scottish Gaelic and Irish Gaelic all exist,
but they're very rarely spoken natively.
Okay.
what's the worst? wait hold on yeah I don't mean to I don't mean to sweep yeah
we're still waiting on the answer I'm thinking am I I like a nice British
accent I don't know which kind okay like a proper one like a posh one like
Queen's British I don't know I have to think about it more no I'm not a
d ant would enjoy those guys like Scott whatever Scott is just you know base
British. I think there's a lot of differences. Yeah, there, yeah. KSB and
Scott sound different. They do. And they live probably like five miles apart.
I love KSB's English. It's very fun to me. Yeah, very nice. Like a puzzle while you're
talking to someone. It is a bit... Satisfies the 82 brain. I have to stare at his mouth
and like, what is he saying? You can't just beat the classic California
or whatever. The accent that does not sound like an accent to me.
Oh, okay. Standard American accent?
Yeah, just can't beat it.
California has their own accent a little bit.
Yeah, there's a little.
A little bit. What's the worst accent?
Out of the English-speaking ones?
Yeah.
Oh, it has to be like...
It has to be like a...
Like, uh, do you know that the cheeky-nandos accent?
Yeah.
Like, the British, yeah, that's bad.
That's real bad.
Do you have people saying like Boston?
Yeah.
Boston's are pretty...
You've got it!
Do you guys know that girl?
No.
Crap.
You just screamed at me.
I gotta be scared.
I was like, why?
I was like why?
I'm afraid I'm not speaking.
We'll press that up here
because I know that a lot of people
watch it as much as I do.
Sometimes they get it.
So I understand.
Okay, so the word referencing something
you heard.
There's this influencer named
Mikaela Nujira or something
horrible person.
And she has like the worst accent
on the planet.
She says she's from Boston, but she just plays it up and she did this video
where she's talking about Kim Kardashian and like she starts it off being like
Kim Kardashian and she sounds ridiculous and uh that's that's kind of a lore but some people
in the chat know a lot of people are like you have to link that to me I went in on the drill
I really think I okay I'll do it okay yeah I'll just pull it up I'll play it I'll
point it to my my my headset here I need you to know that as someone from Boston we
do not claim it's okay thank God she but I literally blocked her and I keep
shivering ads I'm like can this woman please lead my life she got into
controversy okay I'm about to get like a kid to talk to talk about little
forecast I'm watching this I promise I'm watching she didn't add about
mascara with fake fake eyelashes on it was like oh my oh my god I love this
Mascara it's so great you should buy it and it was very clearly faking it and she's a bad
She's a bad influencer. We don't like her. How could she I know
So question we were in Boston
To be precise in Foxboro for the sepulchre race
There it is that's it that's her that's her it's so bad and it's not a joke. That's her actually talking
Yeah, wow
Do it again?
Do it again?
But like, um, yeah do it again, production.
Game cut-ish!
Yep.
It's so bad.
It's so bad.
You cannot see it, but I'm looking very bewildered right now.
It's so insufferable.
Why did- what?
Okay, anyway, the people in Foxboro, is that like a Boston accent?
Um, so I only ran into a few people there that had-
Like a strong one?
What sounded like a Boston accent.
Yeah, I think there were more in the suburbs.
And I don't I imagine you don't get much of that there, but I
Don't know where you get that cuz even downtown Boston. I feel like I didn't hear that accent too much
Oh my gosh, someone in the chat was friends with her in college
The Dunkin Donuts lady no, I believe that came because they're shing kind of girl
Yeah, I can't do it very well. I'm German. I can only do a German accent. That's about it
How many different German accents are there?
Oh a lot.
Actually there's even a sub-language that's recognized as language.
It's called Plattdeutsch.
And then there's a lot of very strong accents.
And when I was young, people in one part of Germany
couldn't understand people in the other part of Germany.
But now we've kind of equalized it.
It's a lot of plain German.
And people don't speak as much of accents anymore.
To me is very sad. Yeah accents. I think they're they're super cool
Dialax maybe some progress accents are kind of disappearing, but yeah
So trying to take the portal good to see what that looks like and there's something spawning to the side there
Oh, no, that's just to prevent you opening the bridge
Someone coming through the portal dropping the puddle. I'm looking for the beam
So look for beam is what it says, but can you bait it?
I bet when he teleports, he just aims at a random person and they're trying not to do it.
So it's either left or right.
Yeah, oh yeah, it was.
Okay, so it goes from the guy to players, so you just have to make sure that you're not standing between the guy and the portal.
And then theoretically, here's where we go up.
And we should be seeing either the commander or the two acolytes.
Unfortunately the shadow precinct down so they cannot test the shield tech.
A beefy shield.
And what else is going on here? They got the portal still.
Spider guys.
Yeah this is the melee side I'm pretty sure.
The teams.
U.K.
I got tapped on the floor.
The platform is voided out.
Yeah that's not a joke but an phase.
Yep.
Makes have you heard Texas German spoken? I don't know what that is. Oh my god. What is it?
Spritken Sie Deutsch like that kind of it? Oh, well that's just German with an English accent.
Oh, it's a Texas accent. So what do other English speakers sound when they speak German?
Give me something to say. Oh, I mean, I can't hear. Something easier.
Vasa. Vasa. Yeah. It's kind of like. Vasa. Like English speakers, they don't do well with
their Rs. Because we roll it in the back of our throat. Was that an R? That was an English
R. No, no. Oh. Did you say a word with an R in it? No, I didn't. Oh, okay. Production
is saying something in my ear, but what? Schnuppy. But that doesn't have an R.
Give an R word.
Schnappisch, schnappisch, schnappisch.
You can say Rein Röhmann, Rein Röhmann, Rein Röhmann, Rein Röhmann, Rein Röhmann.
Well, we're going to practice this.
In the meantime, we're going to head to a monster energy listen in.
I mean, there's nothing going on.
We should rescue group them out of the pool as well, once you group them.
Oh, they're rescuing the intermission.
Yeah.
All the rescues, all four, like I had some of the first platform I think.
Vines, first guy, I want to have that one.
Okay, I can not use those.
If there's Galwindrum, worth getting rid of the portal faster.
Yeah, but he can't save it.
He's often using the Goblin Jump at all the points.
I'm pretty sure I just hold time dial and I have time dial as soon as he comes in.
I think both healers need time dial when they go through the portal.
Step one, step two, anyone?
Well, you get a dot.
If you get hit with that dot, you have to Hellstone before they take that portal or you're going to die.
Is there a weaker for it yet or what the acid ball thing
But you just want an icon for a 30-second diva
Yeah, I mean they just won't like a sound for for me personally when it gets applied
Just so I know I have it because I don't always notice it
All right, you will have that on your screen for 30 seconds, right? Yeah, it's like
This is an icon. Yeah, what's up?
It's a 38, 238.
Thank you.
But does the Zephyr come from work for the right, for the intermission?
The damage?
Yeah.
I mean, are you pressing it on the second or something?
I press seven.
Both of them.
I press seven.
Well, it's five people only.
You need to make sure you're close to us.
I mean, then you just have to be rescuing.
Like, rescue earlier.
I have to rescue for the shield.
The tank where I will rescue on second for the shield for us.
and that you probably have to instantly don't have lobes.
So I think we'll flip off this after a few seconds before
this one into here immediately after we get soft.
Were you stuck with someone the entire time?
But I realized that you were stuck with someone.
Is it true?
We're standing, like we are standing.
Like, what impact do I want to get through?
So many people are just, like, hot stuck there.
Some people have to beat the waves
so you can go to another room.
It's just that the rescue's on top of like a range.
I mean, you were stuck with someone
because your rescues could be before the thing
you went off.
We keep check three triple stacks back to back.
Yep.
I don't think that's what he, I don't know,
I didn't see this one.
I saw other rescues where he got rescued.
Yeah, into the stack.
Yeah, that was what I was looking at there.
Okay.
You saw that you have a lot of time for my balls, so.
Five, four, three, two, one.
On your rope here, fly!
We're going to be teaching.
All good.
Time's up.
Morda, are you on the air?
I'm waiting.
Yeah, thank you.
Don't worry about it.
That's not how it works at all, by the way.
I can't really touch that.
I'm pretty sure you like good.
That feels like a lot of movement.
Or you don't really aim for it.
There is to be a pops here.
Make sure there are pops.
Depends on the movement.
So like Q1 is not getting accurate,
but I'm also having melee position.
So I'm going to move it a little bit now.
Liquid's all right.
Intercept and root breaks.
That's Nick.
Fucking blue.
He was a nice one.
Like that.
OK, bait the next lines away from the markers.
bring the dodge lines and then doxons
remember your pops here
there is the hard line up, you should give room
dodge waves
dodge this and liquid fine too
one liquid fine
and then get under for roots if you need
and dodge lines, break us, cut break us
dodge lines now
and the preposition for your active doxon
if you haven't got anyone yet
break your roots and then we dodge in the lines
in for pops
Ready to go in five stacks
Personal don't die here. I'll clean two one now
first second three
One
On the second one by the way
If anyone's damage has gone drastically wrong by the way, I need to know to lust early
I don't have a lot of fun. I think sucked in three two
one now the red bar starts fine he might have beaten it but it was a good
Oh, oh, oh my god.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
I'm dial each fucking healer before they go through.
Get kicks.
If you get a dot on you, use a fucking personal.
Or a health zone if you get a dot on you.
Nick, good. Now, everyone turn around.
Look at the orbs. Look at the orbs.
Don't get hit by the orbs on the other side.
Very good.
Fading right here.
We're going here. We're going here.
Yeah, well, yeah.
All right. Fire it up in Renako first.
We're getting sucked. They beam, they beam.
Here we go.
This goes.
Allison, let's go next.
Me on this one.
Watch yourself here.
I'm in this.
I appreciate it.
Allison, what do you think?
Go up. Do not touch the next adds.
Let the tanks run.
Pop everything on this so we have it.
days are an impact your next all
personal some these tips all personal
right now all personal cells on health
but good getting sucked this time
exile and sang your next in 10 seconds
big big big in your steaks feller and
guardian what just happened
now I'm saying no I think it's the
act like going off is there supposed
to be an assignment there yeah
some is not working on them yeah I
think those my checks I keep going
Yeah, we're chillin, we're chillin.
Is that here?
There's all those ads when we got up, I'm fuckin' blasted them.
Okay, so first of all, those are a great poll.
Second, I need to figure out what happened on the far side.
Were they marked?
They were marked that there was nothing above the nameplate.
Yeah, there's no assignments.
Also, if that was good, then my kit does not work by the way.
Oh, that was me by the way, it gets ripped.
It's like, I don't know, not the one in melee, like there was one that was in front of me at range.
My kick on Star will never happen because I will be on the other platform by the time I'm kicking it.
I need a PUV of, I need a PUV of, I could probably do a second kick, San, because I'm going over to your side.
So, I'm not crazy, right? The Acolytes have like the smallest cleat range down to man.
Yeah, I'm not cheating them. I told them, I have to start playing.
Like, that guy was just like 98% roll by the time I'm playing.
It's a lot driven's PV, it's a good Shadow Priest phase, let's see.
I'm actually supposed to kill them if there's these bombs so we can that's yeah, we tried actually just like knock on that
What's this like?
Going away. I well I was thinking they're taking damage, right? Yeah, yeah
Okay, so days are an impact go through we're going up
Or where they didn't have to wait so the next one
Is it it does it actually have you go in the next one? Yeah, it does. Yeah, it'll
We see beam
We we want you to black
Okay, well their markets are in orange and they
me because there's actually some people in using the three eyes different ID I'm in here
I linked ID in the channel I hovered them you need to do like a weird shot across the
both ID wrong on the note is on it yeah easy it's normal because there's two different
cakes in the same no if they have a if they have a weirdly brinches or shower
crush at them probably not but even the damage the idea is great damage to the
lacklite I mean I was just fucking hitting it
I was just walking part of the bitch the ID is correct on them you see this
index of the noble you are mine is it fine I'm not really familiar with this
I don't know if you can have two in the same note. Can you two different kickers?
Yeah, I mean I didn't even get to start doing damage. I was trying to figure out which one I was supposed to kick.
I'm on the other side, bud.
Your frost wall pitted. That's it.
Dude, Jankz still is fucking that thing up.
Wait, look at Bean, though. Bean kind of poked him.
Let's fucking go!
Oh, you haven't your brain for sunboothed!
Wait, did you even do that?
Have you ever helped to kill them?
Dude, bitch.
We think so, but...
Seng...
Literally disintegrated that thing three times and did a third of his HP, by the way.
Those things have no help.
It seems like you cannot leave them at all. They're just like fucking...
Well, we kind of brought in Shadow Priests who killed them.
what we want the shadow priests to do so but he's only on one side and he's
only a collides you see pop off in this platform so all you just skip the
rest or if we would have clicked each D did not do any damage to the ackles
right no no I mean I keep both where he made his coolants be ready for oh fuck
yeah but W we just missed okay so we just need to figure out the kick or
right there's something wrong with it also apparently the kicks don't work so teach
you are you able to kick it I mean hopefully my pet is not stupid is he
want to rely on that I mean the evoker said they like can't get it or something
I mean I'm getting to that side he's gonna be gone yeah I can have
infected wait you're not on that side yes you are yes yeah I'm swapping off
All of them take me the second kick but they actually what I thought was the same with the D-case with the portals doesn't work
Oh, does it just blow up when I come? Yeah
That's probably nice for you
Thank you, I mean it wasn't
I'm pretty sure it was working before because the first time I asked that cell if they think work
I said it look instantly and I'm looking at the board and you're coming out with a big bonus
well you said you you said you wanted a oh you want them on the second platform
but the details really it doesn't matter anymore because it doesn't work
oh yep I fucking leave to you it's at least nice to get them dispelled since
you guys are tasting there just like top or range I think you have a little
happen out of their control is probably bad I think it was also drop the puddle on the
portal there was a puddle I really there was a puddle yeah I definitely show the ground
I don't think that should be good no okay I'll also change the note then Zemmiel I want
goop on the first on star and impact second orange is drinaco and then teach D I don't
I don't think they're just changing anything.
Are you playing in the MTSD?
They just want a picture on the, it's time to get out of it.
The killer's on the wrong side, by the way.
That's correct for those kicks, right?
No.
Mark.
Are you sure?
Is it a, are you in series?
So it's supposed to be swapped?
Well, let's wait.
Only when we're down here,
but when we take the first portal,
we swap to the right sides.
It's means of you and Nick and Sarah.
Is that your idea, Pardo?
No, I'm just looking at the thing with like that max putt, I think it's different.
What was needed to change the note?
Nothing, it's already correct.
But it's working, it's fine.
Someone just takes REEZ PI on the second platform.
He wanted Goop and then Impact on Star and was already there.
There it was.
Sorry, we're not talking about that.
Okay, that's all I'm gonna predict.
Because that's the...
Well, you're taking the first portal up top, right?
you're you're yeah I'm gonna decide with no priests are enough you're trying to
get it before you three and I are both taking a portal and we're not enabling
same-side so that's why oh and we start on the same side we both take a portal
but we are not on the same side so that's why I was confused
you're not the same right just be on different sides like on the yeah if you mean just the
links so what was that portal an intermission by the way or was that
like a forget well it's on purpose for that was that fucking negative that's why
blink is instant just like the after the timers gun
first spot loss perfect man okay I don't think DK is that good here
I mean why the DK because it seems like it like of all the like random deaths it
happens the DK is a fair amount and I and if you guys are doing less on the
fight and like defensively your class is like brick or something.
Well, I'm not looking at like specifically what's killing it just like it's happened in
the intermission.
It's just groups, right?
Like, yeah, but like do you happen more when people are more over the way?
So I'm saying it might be overrated.
The fight's so easy on DK that you just fucking literally lose your fucking train of thought.
I'm gonna sleep at the wheel.
Turn under your pups here.
Right around the influence.
Oh, I do need you to knock me out later.
I did not sleep all last night.
I got the drugs, man.
I will fucking make space, make space, make space.
Inject that shit in me.
I got the gold if you want to buy more.
Three, two, one.
And we did.
Oh, no.
That's...
DK's down!
Oh, shit!
I'm running
Mark when we get to the the ad platform can you just MD me and drop a binding like halfway up as soon as it's those the bridge once
Yeah, I can do that. It's BMMD though, so it's going to do absolutely nothing.
Yeah, that's fine. It's just, I need to get them stacked, so like expector to actually
hit them because I can't kick smash until they're stacked. It just goes behind them and doesn't hit.
They just, they just run over the ring. Like if I ring a piece, they just run over it.
You want them to be on the like shielded?
No, just like initial threat is great.
Just like drop a binding and just hit MD as you're like just hitting them
and then while we're going up is good.
Bumpy, dumpy, man.
That's right.
Right about it.
We do everything together.
Like, reasonably stacked for one cake smash,
and then I can just run up and do whatever I want.
But it's hard if they're everywhere,
because it just goes, and then it just misses.
I was like, I hit by that same, the blood that killed
you by IVFs.
All right, let's go.
Actually, mine felt it.
I don't even feel like P2 is outside of like maybe
feeling a second platform doesn't even seem that bad.
Not the feeling, do you think?
You just say it's a spirit plan, a spirit plan.
Simple.
When I get rested.
That's not so stable, that's not so slow.
It copies your three things that you do.
Backflip and...
That castle on moving.
He's got one jump rescue and a spirit.
You lost.
You know, wildfire designers, you're starting to talk into your bocasters.
Oh, you're a jankers.
Dude, you have seven timesprows in the comp, bro.
Use them.
Just use them both of them.
I wanted to say, man, I'm fucking trying to cast.
No, you're too good.
I lost my mind.
Can you get a Yip-Smart?
OK, I'll just do a little bit of damage.
I'll touch it after.
I'm helping.
He's alive.
Don't say that.
I think it's fine.
I'm so confused.
Oh, my god.
They're the lines away.
They're the lines away.
Pull the whistle a little bit.
I can't move right now, because I got loose in that.
Yeah.
Fine.
I'll see how we make her man, I think it was like a new model.
There is the repulsion, I'll make sure it gives space.
How is that hard to do that way?
Resum now.
3, 2, 1.
Oh my god.
We just probably keep going, just go, just go, go.
Break the roots out.
Break the roots?
Oh, this is... I have an omelette.
For two lolly.
good position for your active toxin if you haven't got it yet
got it, he's not bad
no, I'm not, he's...
he's good, but in town at all when you said it
ready to break your roots
and then dodge webs
and go into yourselves
firestacker
in the amz
he's so bad
no
last maybe? fucking healer
oh man
you wanted
okay
Okay, do you hear me?
Yeah, we're good, we're good, we're good.
The boy's dead on the next one.
No, no, no.
He's a weapon.
They're fucking fine, man.
Yeah, eat it, eat it.
He says Stasis rewinds it.
Stasis is already gone, bro.
That's the problem.
We're fine, man, we're good.
All right, Zeffy's gonna Stasis right now.
We're good.
Yeah, we're dead.
Stasis is true.
The fucking thing.
Yeah, all right.
Yeah, we're dead.
Die.
He may like God.
How are we doing this?
Believe in tower, but over won't believe in God.
I can't confirm getting hit by balls, they'll kill you, I just figured it out now.
Yeah, can't cast it on by this guy, check the death log when you get casted on.
Yeah, it's for female.
It's a little overkill.
Man, he's going to take the flight back.
Hey, what the hell?
This doesn't mean you just trolled him.
He baited me again.
Okay, that's fucked up.
Thank you, you're still looking at my screen.
Is Riku still around?
Yeah.
You got a bet?
Okay, yeah, we're bringing Riku back in.
I might, I might-
Oh no!
Am I heart than out?
Yeah, you're still leaving, Jack.
No, it might be good later,
but it's too much of an unknown and, I don't know,
I think the extra rally will apply consistency
and Warriors better in P2 than we thought.
It's changed from a hundred now.
Good question.
I think I remember what they were before.
I'm pretty sure Riku can just blow up.
My last version is both ways around the same side.
Yeah, it was.
And then Mark goes back to school.
Well, we could have Mark on the school side.
Hello, everybody.
Welcome back from that monster energy.
Listen in sounds like after a couple of tries with Rivens on that shadow priest
They decided to swap him back out and sound like they quite were getting the optimization that they were looking for by putting in that shadow priest
Yeah, so during that entire monster energy listen
And we did hear the reasoning for it and it was confirmed that it's for that ad
That is in that at phase with the big shield and a little health
And so it must be that interaction with the hero talent as we were thinking about
But as you could just hear elaborated by max they're saying that the warrior is just more consistent
And they're just not sure if that shadow priest is going to bring all the value that they were looking for
unfortunately a small L dub for shadow priest friends
Yeah, I was kind of excited to see on play out
But we don't even think we really got to see it at least I didn't the only attempt that they got to that shield add
Riven side was dead
But yeah, they're just chipping away at this.
I think we're going to see this best percentage health thing on liquid and echo.
Stay about right here for maybe another like 18 hours.
I don't know if they're getting a much lower than 60% in the next day.
This fight's a powerful big queen.
It's not so much her.
It's the little ads that are menace.
They're her ads, maybe.
All right, I don't know the lore but they could be our army
mm-hmm a
little little helpers
You know what it was Chai is saying got too powerful. Yeah, she's got she's got that v8 in there. Yeah
Tomato juice very powerful. Yeah, wait what? What do you mean v8? Oh, that's an engine type. Oh
I thought we were also talking about tomato juice. I
I was confused why are you what what V8's a type of energy juice or a tomato juice
did they name it after the engine no I think there's eight vegetables oh yeah
vegetable eight that makes sense and probably also because of the engine
yeah could be both little devil and tondra yeah yeah I saw an ad for them
recently they're trying to like reburr and to some something it's like you're
not tricking me to drinking that yeah no I've never not good I've never in my
life no it's just it's literally I wouldn't know you can have fruit juice
yeah people drink smoothies all the time did they not yeah yeah but this is a
this is vegetable juice yeah it's like it doesn't taste like salty yeah it's
nasty it's really I think like grab us drink it oh yeah I don't know what
vegetables are in there tomatoes yeah probably heavy tomato I think it's
very red. Should we look it up? Oh, Chad is saying it is so good. People order them on airplanes.
Yeah. Ooh. I have a little fact about that maybe. I could be remembering this wrong. Okay. I have a spicy
version too. But people get on airplanes because the air is dry and it dries out your nose so you
don't taste as well. That's why people think airplane food is bad but it's just because you
can't taste. But airplanes have gotten better at like making it taste normal so they're kind of
I'm going to take you into the consideration of how the cabin pressure changes your taste
buds.
Okay.
And so they're like seasoning differently now, that's why airplane food has gotten much better
in the last years.
And also that's why people drink tomato juice on the airplane because it tastes different
there.
I have heard that as well, maybe I try one.
Yeah, I keep thinking that and then I still order a water.
I'd probably, I like a little ginger ale on the airplane.
Oh really?
It doesn't even like bottled water, what does she know about good canned drinks?
She stayed away from the plastics.
Not that I don't like bottled water, I just think it's ridiculous to buy cases of bottled water when like filters and tap and and and Brita's and tap water exist.
Amen.
And then put plastics in us?
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not engaging in this conversation, I like my water angry.
that's different you can you can that's the only way can
it doesn't need to be can but it needs to be like busy
there's maybe a little film of plastic in a can
Germany like tic-tac water and we sparkle it
you're with oh like a soda stream we have one of those at home
something like that
have you seen water talk anybody
oh yes tic-tac watering or like a water podcast
water quote-unquote people
on the internet.
Put water.
Things in water to make it not water.
Yeah, they put a big thing of water usually shaped like a Stanley.
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
They put your Stanley, right?
And then colors.
I'm going to make water and then they just make up like some name, like this is a cotton
candy unicorn surprise and then they'll put like syrup.
It's just Kool-Aid.
Yeah, they basically make Kool-Aid and then it's water.
They call it water.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I drink water like that.
Only fun drink I can have because every other drink has fruitos.
My chat calls it fancy water.
I mean that's, you see I think like adding fancy water I think makes sense but
but I think the worst thing about water talk is a lot of those people will take
their Stanley and will pour bottled water into the Stanley.
Oh no.
Which is that, no, no, that's wrong.
And then call it water, after putting a bunch of sugar in it.
The way you do fancy water is you take the tap water and you add the fun flavors
and then you shake it.
Yeah.
And that's fancy water.
That's, I mean, I'm work cultured over here.
I bought these little packets of, of like a mocktail mix recently.
Yeah.
And I'll, I'll sit in bed and I'll drink my little mocktails and I'll scroll tick tock
and then I'll go to sleep.
It's great.
Yeah.
It's a good time.
But I don't call it water.
That would be ridiculous.
Fancy water works so.
Fancy water is great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Speaking of sandleys, I literally, me and, me and, me and Xyro are team Stanley
here at the.
American by the way it's it's in Germany you wouldn't see the big standlies I've
never seen this in Germany ever second American thing I'm so hydrated makes yeah
I bet you are I just took a sip of water yeah I watched it probably very cold
still it is it's very cold my ice is still is still ice yeah do you have the
the Stanley shaped ice to their Stanley shaped ice oh yeah I've been
And seeing that on my water talk, see I'm into the water talk, there's like ice shapes
that you can put in your freezer and they fit precisely into the different dagger shapes
of a family cup.
Honestly, I kinda, that sounds great.
I think I've been influenced.
Link me your Amazon storefront, I'll buy it.
I don't think you can even get it in Germany.
I'm sure if you Google Stanley I'll find it.
There's like a whole series on TikTok where people take their staley's and they have all these like attachments to it.
Oh, I hate that. They're so ridiculous. They're like I'm gonna grab the mail from my mailbox and then they
Stack up a whole box of snacks on your staff
They have like a purse like a little mini purse for like lip gloss that attaches to their staley and it's the most
ridiculous thing I've ever seen. Yeah, it's very
It's something
Someone in chat is asking is this boss broken? I don't know what's happening in the casters. I'm not talking about it
Yeah, it's pretty hard. That is your answer. It's a very hard boss. I'll talk about it once we see some prog
Yeah, but as for now we're 110 tries in and
We just switch back from the shadow priest to the warrior. That's a little bit more stable
Get in a nice rally losing a PI
They keep their photo to you because serious in there
doing all he can do to keep up with the preservation.
For a second I thought you meant like mental fortitude and I was like I didn't know
Siri was that much of a vibe-haver but yeah of course that's stamina buff.
Power word.
Yeah they've got to dodge these webs and then they will get some froths soon
which are these green circles replacing some markers down now and they need to
You pop these froths with a player.
They rotate who pops them.
Here come the froths.
They line them up.
And you pop to jump over the boss's ring.
And yeah, on Mythic, you get the multiple, you need to stagger them like a second apart.
This is two in heroic.
Yeah, there's the one, two, now the two in the back.
Oh no, that's just the three set.
And then dodge the waves and then more webs to dodge.
Ooh, that looks, he looks safe to me.
Yeah, unfortunately not everybody is safe here, so a couple of dead people already is probably going to be called here.
Yeah, I see them jumping off and that is kind of how it keeps going.
Name of the game, they need to survive that P1, they need to break that shield on the intermission.
And then we can finally get deeper into the fight.
And I also want to see where exactly they popped that bloodlust, because they took it out off of that intermission.
Which is why that intermission feels a little bit sketch now.
Okay.
But they're trying to send it on the ads.
And we haven't really gotten to the point where they want to send it,
because I assume it's the second platform.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, if they're like comping to bring a Shadow Priest in for like shield damage,
then those things might be pretty chunky.
I also wonder, they could do this with THD,
But they ranged, or I guess anybody can take portals back and forth on the Phase 2 platforms on Mythic.
And you have to take them, and then you can only take them once.
So once you take it, you're on the other side.
Yep.
And you're just stuck there.
Yeah, it's like...
They're in the fight, so they have to think of how they want to line up.
It's like a one-way wormhole.
You can only go over once, depending on wherever you want to go.
You'll go there once.
So you'll have to know what's at the end of the at-face to really be able to plan it out.
So what they're doing right now is kind of taking the safe bets early on and then they'll probably just switch characters
Depending on what they want to do
So not switch characters as in a player switches, but switch characters for the sides
Yeah, I
Want to see thg lock. I'm sure he ports at some point, but it's good
Oh, no, he's dexter. I was gonna say he could be absolute corruption and you know, you don't up one side port dot up the other
would be a nice but
He is Destro, maybe the Havoc? No, Havoc's got range.
The first set is the mages, so that's kind of pretty safe, and then I'm pretty sure one of the healer pairs is next.
Then we have a melee pair. They changed a bit, so first it was the tanks and the healers, now the mages and so on.
They're just trying what works and how they can be a little bit safe, depending on what's going on.
There is a world where one of the sides has like a tank buster at, so the tanks need to swap then and there.
something like that that could happen we don't know
haven't seen that far yeah there's three platforms in that phase correct yeah
so you start at the bottom and then there's three platforms in here and they
only got to that second one with the shield add mm-hmm okay so the second
one has a double acolytes on one side and the extra melliat on the other
and then we haven't seen that last one just yet okay I'm only laughing because
this fights easy yeah yeah sometimes those ad phase can be kind of easy and I
guess not this time it's a real that's a real ass phase
intermission when they're not lasting also seems pretty real damage check we
would have they like 626 I level something like that very high I think
yeah that's right yeah and they've ripped every upgrade they've spent their
crests, they vaulted their vaults, they crafted their crafts, I don't think there's really
much they can do, maybe some people haven't fully capped out their crests, but that's
just a minor thing at this point all things considered.
They grabbed a lot of crests from the heroics, and then obviously the re-clears on Mythic
also get the gilded, so I'm not sure that on these characters at least we have so much
left to give, we'll be hearing. Also, somebody in chat was saying they have to
vent us soon, we of course did that already. There's no boss that's coming
after that, so that was first order of actions coming to this boss. Sending
that vent us, because what else are you going to use it on, if not the final boss of the raid?
Hmm, heroic parsing. You can sell parses on heroic answer with that
vent this room true true oh poppy in this demon hunter zipping around oh right
into position man he was he's it's pretty crazy to watch the demon hunter on
fights I would not want to ever play that spec in progression oh it's very
fun maybe look it is so quick you zipped right in there it's fun once you get
the rhythm of Momentum, but it's a little bit like a Don's Don's Revolution game where
you don't only learn the mechanics, but you also learn the rhythm of a boss so that you
then know when you can eat and where your damage windows are.
When to eat and when not to eat, very important.
Actually, Shaqib is playing his own little mini-game on every single boss, I'm telling
you.
That's true.
Hunter is a whole different world.
Yeah, you got fell rush, you gotta fell rush to the right places.
I feel like there's zero chance you raid lead on that thing.
On demon hunter? Nah.
If you're havoc, no way. Your perspective is constantly changing also.
Yeah, it's very hard to zip around.
Yeah.
He did do quite a bit of damage.
brings the magic debuff, which got nerfed recently, off it back, casters seem like they need it.
This is, this tier has been, I think melee are the most powerful, but ranged are brought for mechanics.
Like they wanted a certain amount of ranged and melee on KVezeth.
For like mechanical reasons, I think, less than damage reasons, but I could be wrong.
Really? Big cleavers at least.
Yeah?
Yeah. Very happy to do so when they can.
Someone in chat says I raid lead as a havoc you my condolences my condolences
Let us know how that goes for you. It is low key impressive, but I'm also terrified of you
Yeah, and you're guilty. Yeah
Like okay go right, but it's like a different right because well, it's mark
But like how can you see the mark when you play havoc? No, yeah, that's true. Yeah, or do you cheat and play no mover?
Because that doesn't count. Yeah
I'm surprised they don't have. Well, how far behind is no mover? Is it far behind?
Yeah, it's not that great. So people were thinking that no mover might the way to go
and then we figured out that the other hero town is actually pretty good.
Okay. And so somebody is saying I've rightly
thus havoc during Ny'elotha. We didn't play inertia during Ny'elotha. It doesn't count.
She caught you. She knows her stuff.
I played demon hunter during Ny'elotha.
infinite stars yeah I killed myself on
Maught many a times mm-hmm oh yeah yeah
something happened I just like random
random screams from back there yeah so
sometimes thd just gives me yee-haw oh is
that him and sometimes they also yell
something that I cannot quote but it
It rhymes with raw, wrought.
Right.
We're not saying that word up here.
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't know.
I don't even know what word that could have been.
Dude's locked into it.
Have you seen his hood up?
That's a new one.
Yeah, he's hooked up.
Five of his fans, though.
I genuinely don't know how he plays.
He likes that spot.
It's the most exposed spot.
He's a social guy.
He actually loves talking to people.
The door is right there.
But he he looked at me and glare he like he looked at me and glared mid-pull. Yeah one time and I was like, bro
focus
Focus up man
See okay. Look at TG. Look at him. He has sinned. He is
Meditating you're right is here and everywhere else all at the same time if that dude is glaring at you
He has it under control. He knows exactly what's going on. What's he doing? What's happening next?
He doesn't even need to open his eyes for it
looks like a Jedi
Yeah, everything everyone I think he hurts me HD version. I'm telling you do you imagine
He's giggling here us thd
Open your eyes. I think he's having havoc
It seemed to soak
Diamond here and watch Papa one Papa two
Trigger makes and Siri Papa three runs out the circle. He loves doing that. I'm not paying him attention
So they dodge these waves, not too bad, but then when it comes with these webs, it's a little sketch.
Why is Cairo asking whether or not we're taking the chicken bake or to double chunk chocolate cookie?
What is that? What are we talking about?
He's a Costco guy.
Yeah.
Hmm?
You been to Costco?
No.
Oh, we should take you there and we'll see if you want the double chunk chocolate cookie or the chicken bake.
How many booms is which?
Oh, no, not this again.
What do you mean?
You want...
We talked about this tiktok family with the Rizzler child. Yeah. Yes. I remember I've learned about this already
Have you seen it? No, it's it's
They're on cameo
What yeah, we gotta get them you gotta get those guys in here
What they kind of seem like they could be world of Warcraft players to be honest one of them that terrifies me as well
Yes, I agree
Yeah, someone to chat. This is it.
Alright.
Yeah, that's it. That's a kill. 100% you're so right.
For people that, we're going to be taking this boss down right now.
I was learning about something this morning. Have you guys heard of Coco Melon?
Coco Melon.
I learned how insidious it actually is.
Oh, is it?
This morning I was watching a... also, I meant to tell you this.
I like, got stuck on my door handle.
It like, hooked into my backpack strap and then I dropped a bunch of things.
So I'm really sorry.
To me, regularly.
I'm really sorry if I woke you up this morning.
I was trying to be so slow and then I got like stuck on my doorknob.
No, I've been there.
Yeah.
Okay.
So I'm glad I do like you.
Okay, so I do.
It's Cocoa Mallet.
I was watching a video, listening to it when I was getting ready about how it's really
bad for children's brains.
They do like marketing tests and stuff to make sure it's as addictive as possible.
Oh really?
Yeah.
really it's it's kind of the opposite of what you'd want for a children show
because it doesn't really teach like problem-solving or like conflict
resolution. Oh wow. It teaches you language but not necessarily how to use it
and there are all these like short very repetitive videos and it like
hypnotizes children and it's really really addicted to them. See I only know
Coco Melon from TikTok because it's not a thing in Germany I believe. Yeah. So I
I never watched any of the episodes, but that's very interesting.
I haven't either. I've just heard about it.
Yeah, and I guess like kids are having to go to speech therapy from watching too much
Cocoa Melon.
Yeah.
Cool.
Yeah.
Well, so anyway, so that's all just kind of, it was just kind of very scary how many
kids seem to be addicted to the show and how bad it is for their brains because it's
just overstimulating them and not actually teaching them anything as a children's show
probably should.
So one in China saying most kids shows are like not nowadays, just show them
the old ones.
It wasn't because there was actual data about like the
It compared a bunch of children's shows like like Paw Patrol and yeah, we have Paw Patrol
and was saying that the longest clip in Cocoa Mellon was like
Three seconds long whereas I was had longer clips
So it's like a lot more nefarious and and had to for brains than a lot of other children's shows
So, no, it is not like other children, I don't know, just interesting show I was listening
to this morning about it.
Yeah, from somebody that actually studied language acquisition, it's very important for children
that the incorrect language being modelled, just in case you were wondering about that
ever.
It wasn't, and that's I think part, was part of why it was so bad is that it wasn't
really being used in a way that was teaching kids how to use language, it was just
kind of teaching them like words.
So that's also why, do you know how we do like baby speech to children?
Yeah.
Like we're like, oh, it's actually really bad.
Like we should stop that as a society.
We're at the opposite.
It's really not good for them because people, generally the human brain learns an imitation
and basically pattern recognition.
And so if you teach them kind of baby speech, that's what they'll learn.
Whereas if you talk to them like a normal person, their language acquisition goes
much faster and they usually are better at like language development.
Will it sound like Boss Baby?
I don't know what that is.
Just, you know, like an adult.
I mean, I think it's actually really cute, you know,
sometimes when children say something and you just know like their dad
or their mom says that to them.
Yeah, we deserve this treat.
You're talking about dogs like this.
So as you guys learn too much from tic-tac don't you have a degree in this make I have a degree in
Interesting
Got my PhD in world of Warcraft nice
Warlock me
Yeah, I've got a couple
Can you have multiple?
Yeah!
I've put a fair amount of time into the mage and the warlock.
Mm-hmm.
You...
I've dabbled in all the other ranged, you know, and by dabbled I mean, you know, hundreds
of hours, potentially tens of hundreds of hours.
Oh, that's pretty good.
That's a lot of time effort.
Yep.
I've paid a lot of ranged, not so much the melee.
Been vibing with my demon hunter since Shadowlands though.
Very fun.
Let's go.
yeah this fight seems rough I'm just gonna keep repeating that because I
think that's valid people want to know that we're still tuned into the fight
yeah I just keep being baffled at it's gonna sound bad but the inconsistencies
I just just meaning they pulled this a hundred and fourteen times fifteen times
and that's only three and a half minutes into a really long fight which
The end seems to be potentially the most wild and they're barely getting through it.
Maybe one out of every five attempts they get to the intermission and then maybe phase two
is one of five at this point because they can only really get there if everybody lives.
So if they have deaths in P1, they got a rez and they have deaths in the intermission
they might be able to squeeze it out but then you're lopsided.
It's like how many poles are they even going to get to phase 2 clean because they need that
to even have a hope.
And then they're going into that phase and it's pretty new.
They're going to lose people.
New people, every time they get a little further, more people get new jobs because they have
to do the portal and they've never done it before.
And then they reveal new problems like, oh no, this bait, we have to bait here
before this person goes to the portal because what we were doing was working up until they
got unlucky. So now we need to strad around them getting unlucky. It's just a slow slog
through like, you know, 10 second chunks. Yep. And that adds up.
It's also rather long just generally that whole first bit of phase one and intermission.
You're already in there for like three-ish minutes, so at that point then trying to see progression
just adds up with every single try that you do, and then phase one is so volatile that
often you end up wiping there as well.
I hate to say it so early.
Oh no, where are we going?
Do we think this is nerf potential before reset?
I don't think yet.
No, so I think just looking at it right now, a lot of it comes down to learning to fight.
And then we need a couple of actually like deep run tries in P3 to see like, is it possible.
So it's definitely a tight damage check from everything we're seeing, but as you see they're
now able to like find that intermission damage without the bloodlust.
I'm pretty sure they'll also be able to make that damage check in the ad phase that we've been seeing for a while
It's just gonna take some time for them to be secure enough on the pattern of this boss
To then also focus on being able to do the highest DPS that they can
Which kind of brings us back to the Zoth where it's like oh now we need 30% more boss HP and somehow
They were able to find it so
It's just gonna take a while before we really know for sure
Yeah, if there's something that's nerfed, it may be some random burst of damage that
kind of clips people or maybe the ad HP, but I think it's too soon to know about the boss
HP.
And then, I think, you know, a lot of these mechanics, they just one shot you or you dodge
them.
And so, I don't think they'd nerfed those webs to not one shot you, though that would
help a lot.
So unless there's an ad in the intermission that's kind of a hard wall, then I don't think
they're going to touch this fight.
That's my guess.
That or they hit in rage and it seems unkillable.
That would be another nerf, but that is a ways off.
They're lining up to do their, is this the quad froth, alright, one, two.
And then they have the nice little range double back there.
Up, up.
Unforging one death, but we do have the battle runs ready there.
And they lived even though they were down one soaker they live now they stack up for some healing because there's a big boom. Oh
Yeah, like just that kind of thing they could maybe nerf just to
Smooth out some of the edges like they looked pretty clean and he was just a little low
You know he was in the AMC doing nothing wrong
brutal
I like this comment, you know, maybe if Lincoln Park released a song for race world first instead of league
Worlds, maybe this fight would have already been done
you think so no but it's not to think about true I'd be into that maybe we
can we can convince some bands to write songs for us I'll be pretty dope
we'll just want I'm gonna pin this people dying to unavailable or affordable
damage consistently yeah yeah buddy yeah that's exactly what's going on you've
We've had a big explosion right before the intermission starts.
It's pretty tough.
Nope.
All reload.
Maybe a small break.
Oh yeah, I think I saw it.
Oh yeah.
Oh, there we are.
Brake timer has been hit by the guild.
Yeah.
I wondered if this is just a walk around kind of break.
It's a pressure.
Maybe they're coming up with some strategies.
But I don't know what else they could really strat.
move healer cooldowns? Because what's killing people is just random one-off things that it's
kind of just like a pull pull again. So there is a lot that kind of happens there that's more minute.
For example, I was referencing this earlier when you talk about the froths and how accurately
timed they need to be in order to bring you over the nova but also not explode into each other.
So they have pretty much exactly one second between those to send them, and if that goes
wrong by just a little bit, you just get too much overlap on the explosion damage of those,
and if it's too late, then people get clipped by that nova. So that's for sure an issue that
kind of hasn't been too consistent just yet, but they're working on it. So
So I don't know, if I would change anything on the fight, it's probably how tight that
is, but I think we're still very far away from that.
I think it's only a second.
It's pretty tight.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You would do half a second?
No, I would be more lenient with that.
So that it's not as tight.
Yeah, so the debuff would last half a second.
Well, I would more so make the Nova slower so that they have more time to send it.
Okay.
I think it's just really hard to operate on a half a second window.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's clever about the mechanic from a design perspective is you can't really weak
or it.
They have a weak or it that says don't pop, but you can't say pop now because it's
just relative to the boss and the wave coming out, so it has to just be like
eyes.
So I think it's cool.
It was a smart design.
Yeah, yeah, I like it. Well, I mean
We'll see we'll see what happens for the rest of the night
It is 9 at 12 p.m. Local time here and like we said a lot of the raiders kind of walking around getting some fresh air
So in the meantime, we're gonna take a look at some of the transmogs that have been submitted till.gg
Slash rwf-donate if you'd like your transmog to be featured or your pet as well
We're gonna take a look at some of those $30 again, and then you can send a link in the note
for your donation. Here is three's uh we're gonna listen to our old song as music. I'd rather be fishing the same buddy.
How dare you production? I was vibing. Oh they slowed it down? Yeah.
Horrible. Bring it back. Eight.
It's an interesting mug for a monk no? Yeah. It's like some shadow assassin
It's gonna come poison you with that vial. Maybe pour it onto his blade.
Yeah.
Riza.
I like this spin on a monk. I'm not like super impressed, but it is very cohesive.
Yeah, I agree.
I'll give it like a 7.6.
7.6, okay.
Yeah.
Cams.
I'll get this. I like it. I don't mind that it's a monk. I'm gonna give it an
8.
Right.
An 8.
Yeah.
It's good.
It's good.
Chousermouse.
Oh, this is...
A little Robin.
...animatic.
Yeah.
Okay.
Agree.
I like all of it but the bow.
Really?
Oh.
So the bow itself is cool, but I don't think it goes with this.
Yeah, I kind of agree, actually.
Can we get a little skinny spin?
Yeah, it's not.
It's, uh, it doesn't feel on theme.
Yeah.
It feels more magic and this guy feels more ranger.
Is that? Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I?
The rings.
Ooh, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
A little strider action.
I think I'll give this one a 6.
It looks like he stole that bow from someone and I'm intrigued by who that might be, but
I'm not terribly impressed.
I'll give it a 6.2.
Whoa.
I'll give it a I'll give it a 7.5 just because of the bow
Another monk
He's got a little friend with him
What is how do you get that guy no idea I
Like the guy maybe comes with a weapon. Maybe is it an offhand? I have no idea
It's an offhand from Seppelkern.
Gailer offhand.
It's cool, but the rest of it doesn't go.
I'm really sorry.
So, I like the little touches of red.
I think that's cool to hear the offhand thingy, the sashay.
All of that is pretty cool.
Okay.
Quick rating?
Oh my god, like a flat seven.
Flat seven? It's just impress me.
I'll give it a 6.5.
I can see the vision, but that's it.
I'll give it a seven, and I love the off hand.
Okay.
That brought me up.
Yeah, I do.
Some aura points there with that for sure.
All right, thank you for your submission.
Let's take a look at the next one.
Oh, what a cute little guy with his little chin.
It's a little face markings.
Is this eye black?
No, I think it's just a shadow.
Cat, we're not raiding the pets.
Oh, yeah, they're not raiding the pets.
Yeah, all the pets are 100 out of 10.
Yeah, they're gonna be good raiding cats.
A lot of hundreds of them.
How do you know all that?
A little face markings.
Oh, do-do-do.
Are the eyes maybe different colors?
No, I don't think so. I think it's a shadow.
It's like a, I have a green-eyed cat.
Looks like that.
What does he makes his cats?
I don't know.
Just got a little robot, much like that flying thing.
Oh, dude.
That scoots around.
Oh!
Oh, whoa!
This is a beekeeper.
That is very cool.
We have a beekeeper.
Oh my gosh.
Gotta get that honey somehow.
Yeah, support your bees.
Support your local bees.
Buy some local wild seeds.
Wildflower seeds.
I like them in the springtime.
Very good for the local bee population.
Put up a couple cell towers.
Sure.
Why not?
You know, there's a lot of flowers that really
support like native bees.
Yeah, exactly.
I can't eat honey, so
I'm not that into bees,
but I like when other people are.
Honey's made of fruit dust?
Yes.
Interesting. I love honey.
Flowers, flowers are like fruit.
Oh my gosh, this is a therapy.
Link and Beetle with a D.
Beetle.
Oh, the psychosa.
Who's who?
The psychosa.
Who's, is Link the left one?
And Beetle is the orange cat?
That would fit.
It's, you know, Mega.
I had the one on the left.
That could be a secret lab chair.
Ta-da.
That looks like one, yeah.
We do have the, I believe there's an Omega one.
Is there a note for these?
Both of these cats look so terp-y.
I love it.
So cute.
Oh, beads is orange.
So psychosa.
Okay.
Beetle is so orange.
Beetle is orange one.
Yeah.
Excellent.
Thank you very much for sharing your welcome beetle.
Yeah.
Very sweet.
Here you go.
Thank you for your pet.
Oh, yeah.
You guys are frisky and kelly.
Hopefully that's going to suit.
And kelly.
A little stretch.
Heal.
Healy.
Healy.
would be fristy and keely.
Well, maybe they're German, that looks like...
I don't know.
Not an American name.
Beautiful, sleepy, cozy.
Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.
Haske or is it a malamute?
Or is it something entirely different?
Oh, here, I have the note.
These are fristy the cat and keely cola.
Oh, it means cola.
Is that German?
No.
I don't really understand what's happening on screen,
but I appreciate the good vibes.
Yeah, a lot of the same thing over and over you probably noticed.
Yeah.
Thank you so much.
Slow progress.
Yes, thank you.
But the the the pets are chilling so are we.
They're driving out.
No one understands what's going on the screen right now.
All of my eyes.
What's going on with that face.
Please tell me it is lemon on the left and crag on the right.
I love it.
Yeah that better be crag over there.
No one understands what's going on on the screen right now.
Oh my god.
What's going on with that face?
Please tell me it is Lemon on the left and Craig on the right.
I love it.
Yeah, that better be Craig over there.
You look like Craig.
Your face is so funny.
Oh, I love them. I love both of them.
Oh my gosh.
That's a derpy little guy.
That is a real Craig. That's a great name for a dog too.
I love dogs that sit like on their butts like that.
You know, they don't sit down.
Yeah, the one on the left like sitting on their butt on the butt. Yeah
Also, like animals with human names is very funny to me. Yeah to me too. That's why I have them. Yeah
Craig can you imagine you're in the dog park and somebody says crack. No, right? It's just a dog. Craig
So good. Yeah
Thank you so much for your submission
I'm going to try it, their dog is called Paul.
That's great name, Paul.
My cat is called Sebastian.
I do see a pole timer.
Oh, smooth.
How many crag will understand, hopefully?
The queen has a date with the raid.
Scooting over.
Scott first.
He needs to bark, rage and incarn.
Good job, Scott.
He popped a trinket, got rid of that weak aura.
Ethan is my chef.
Fantastic.
I got your cat through him in the back. Can you fix it help you're on your own darling beating more soon
This little spread out there doing some baiting
We want to try and bait these webs
I think the center of the web spawns on different people so you kind of hold them away from where they want to place the
Frost which they've done
And they get the frost soak one soon up in the air now to you need a space those by about a second apart
but also not hit get hit by the wave and now little slime waves come out of
each froth not too bad when there's only two it's got getting into position
little baits a lot more puddles they need to conserve space for the intermission
now you stack these are basically the Tindra mechanic everybody gets rooted
boom they seem to have zero health I don't know what's up with that but they
die very fast I'm moving to bait again and I think there's like another
other aiding of the webs, and then the froths.
It's hard to find the timers on some of these players.
Oh yes, Scott has this vertical weak aura timer thing.
Okay, there's the webs.
The froths, now they run back after the bait.
They get the position.
Two of them very close together.
It sketches me out every time.
Those are overlapping by quite a bit.
The poppers must be safe.
Pop one, pop two, and then three.
poppers have to rotate every time they get a debuff they can't do it twice and
then when they land they get that big green circle they just kind of run that
out it's not doesn't seem to be too big of a deal all right they all ran back
over to where the frost were place the puddles stack up for the tindrel roof
things break down things uh-huh webs and now they draw more web puddles do a
little baby over here believe there's another bait that comes out kind of
near the froths it's very sketch please pop your trinket scott I hate this week
aura yeah I believe we might be saving this one for the intermission yep you
probably open here we go a little mechanical overlap the webs into the
froths with the dodge and then the froths kind of the same time very scary
that they all dodged. First one, second one, overlapped popping. Nice job. Now here comes Omega
Dance with all these slimes. They have to get topped up. Stand at these AMZs because a big burst of
damage is about to hit. Boom. Now they're all webbed. They need to spread out these little
circles. Every once in a while they get yoinked and place a puddle. Just gonna want a healing
potion here. Good job, Driny. Hold in, rotating over to a new safe spot. They also
dodge the waves. Not too bad here if you don't consider the fact that they have a
big DPS check which you can see that bar and the top left of Driny's screen. The
red is the timer and the blue is the health bar of the shield. They have to
beat the red
spreading out, dodging some waves
they are going to get through it
one more yank
very bright good
okay that's fine
now take a few seconds before you can get back into the melee range
which in an ideal world
you would still want to have access for the mellies
at that very last moment of the shield
to be able to squeeze that last
percentage before she goes immune again
but we're now back in progression phase
now back in progression phase with for now everyone alive we do have the first
people that did go through the portal you can see that a knockback is coming in
here middle of the screen towards the top for drying we're going to be going
on to that first platform where all of the chaos will ensue now you need to
make sure that you're not between the ant that casts the beans and the
portal and you can also see that the next set of portal switches is up
It's Atlas and Lip to decase that should be changing routes here
Yeah, they made it they're gonna drop a little puddle good job
Well, there's a very good try nice
Getting up there. We now know there's that at that has one HP and a giant shield
We need to kill that before the cast is finished. We have 15 seconds to do just that and at the same time
We also need to interrupt the
uh, acolytes and deal with everything else that is happening, dear.
Can we make that damage break point three seconds?
I think we got it!
Yeah, this side did, the other side's alive, so I assume they're doing it.
This is looking very good.
They're gonna have to keep juggling people through those portals,
while also killing these adds and avoiding getting yanked off,
and they have almost no space left already.
That's probably the last poll they can deal with.
Let's platform the bean guy still alive and
So that was a guardian side
The other side had the interrupts in the acolytes and I believe that is what killed them
They're all trying to maybe get a replay of that, but that was a new best try
Yeah, in terms of progression a really really good try
Yeah, that's the only way they're gonna make it through this fight is chain those poles
They can't see there every ten poles like every hour
It needs to be like a lot in a row so it all stays fresh and they can you know find all the pain points
That is probably the best thing they can do tonight with the remaining hours
It's just get there as many times as possible
Which they're not really doing right now there. They've had
Significant time between a lot all like all of their poles check it all of Drini's reminders here and their new add-on
Oh my god, I wonder if you can share them so that like hey everybody I made one for the bait or something
They must here's a replay. Here's a replay. So that is at that second platform
That's it's a first platform first platform happening here. That one went pretty well for both sides
You can see Atlas and look do get into that portal kind of last second. You'll see them come out right side
I'm not sure this should be the atlas coming out and lip going in situation for the team that we're watching right now
Yeah, and then they're taking that bridge up there
And if this is also the dry knee side, this should be where the Guardian is
So we're not going to see these interrupts on this side here. It will be the other team that yeah, there we go
THD side they're dealing with these extra acolytes and that is something that we didn't know was going to be here
you can see now the interrupt rikora is working for the team.
You remember this one from Ovenax, for example, for the worms?
You try to interrupt these apps as late as possible to stagger them out of it.
They did really well with that shield add, and then the big problem for both sides really
is running out of space here, so you can see all efforts were kind of sent into that shield add
to then be able to finish off the rest, but
But fear goes that cast sends them boom and after this poll, I don't think they would have
had space on that platform either.
Do those acolytes drop stuff that needs to go into the portal or all these things?
See we don't know that yet.
We haven't seen them die yet.
They never even killed an acolyte yet?
Not when I was watching.
Wow.
I mean I guess yeah that was like their best poll and to kill the acolyte you
kind of need to complete that part so yeah.
Man.
Yeah, they dropped something.
That's to go through the portal.
I guess the only reason I go through the portal
and P3 is to dodge the wave.
So maybe not, I mean, it could be crazy enough
to have you like take it with you up the stairs.
I don't know.
I mean, why not?
Why not add more to this fight?
After all, why shouldn't we?
Why shouldn't we? Yeah, why not?
Make it harder.
Buffer, she is too little HP.
Yeah, we're getting through that first phase
a little too easily.
I think they need to bump that up.
Yeah, a little bit off the shield.
Yep. I see some sloppy rotation mistakes.
They can definitely improve.
So buff it.
Hmm. Send it.
There was a dog named Linda in the chat earlier.
Oh, really?
The dog was a great, a great day named Linda.
Oh, that's great.
On the subject of dog names with humans.
I love that.
Is it Linda Linda?
I've been I have a good friend.
Do you know how the gym guys or buff guys or broad shoulders kind of people?
Right, like you, Kems.
So, I have a friend like that who hits the gym every single day, just like a mixed martial arts kind of situation.
Right.
And I've been trying to rob him into getting a Pomeranian.
Oh my god.
I want him to get a Pomeranian and then we'll name that dog something like beast or something.
It'll be so great.
I always get a kick.
I convinced, okay, I have a toy poodle, right?
He's like six pounds.
Yeah, a little guy.
Yeah, a fisher.
And I get a kick out of watching my boyfriend
walk him, take him on little walks.
Yes.
No, I get it.
It's like, the guy that plays the mountain
in Game of Thrones.
Yeah.
Big, broad guy.
Yeah.
He's a tiny Pomeranian.
He just does something to the Pomeranian.
Small dogs are so great.
And more people need to just lay off.
Like small dogs are great.
I mean, I personally would like a big gong.
Yeah, but like I also enjoy, I love all dogs.
Yeah.
Great.
Yep.
Got a Chihuahua.
Oh, yeah, Pico.
Little long hair Chihuahua named Pico.
Yeah, I love Pico.
Black with brindle on her.
And long hair Chihuahua, if people don't know, that's like triple rare.
Really?
Yeah.
Long hair is more rare than short.
Black is a rare Chihuahua color.
And I think brindle is also.
What's brindle?
It's like a little patchy kind of gray and brown.
Oh, it's like, like, pappy for cats?
Yeah.
OK.
How did you get Pico?
I'm a nice old lady, bred her dog.
OK.
And we drove down to Orem and picked up, picked her up.
She had a little brother, a little white brother.
Short hair, white.
We said we went long.
I think long is really, your dog is really cute.
Yeah.
Those are your dogs.
You should have, yeah.
Because my favorite though, I have a dog.
Small dogs.
If I could...
Actually, fun fact.
I've been asking my parents for a dog
ever since I was like three years old.
I always wanted a dog
for like the longest time ever.
And then I ended up with cats.
And now I can't have a dog because I have cats.
But if I were to get one, it'd be either
a Staffordshire or a Rottweiler.
Those are both great.
Yeah, I love those.
that is smaller than our cats and they weren't scared of him.
It worked out.
Yeah, yeah, I can see that work.
Also, someone goes, why is this silly bear emote pinned?
That's my dog.
That's for sure.
That's the dog.
That's him.
That's my dog.
Oh, I could see a dog.
Do you have a Pico emote or?
Yeah, hold up.
Oh, let's see it.
I'll pin it.
And he's working on it.
Yeah.
Um, why didn't you, will you bring one of them?
Yeah, bring your dogs.
Dog-friendly space, yeah.
It's a lot to take care of during this and I don't
You know they might bark. I don't know how they'll be like around all this commotion. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah
next time
Well, we'll see okay, who do I even ask about that or do I just show up with dogs show up
It's much much easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission. Yep. What about the hotel?
Just sneak them in.
Peek-o-small enough.
You'll just be like, oh, this is me and my dog in a drench code.
That's totally not a dog.
Yeah.
That'll work out.
All right.
I'll try it.
We'll workshop it.
All right.
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really easily and the second one
Also has the spells on it, which will help healing so I'm listening at like
first cuz you like stay ahead of portals and
It's
Is there an aqua in that possible?
Well, also re-consuming on the same side.
Isn't it both mages? Like that?
Both mages are in DROP 3R for now, are it supposed to be?
I think we're just going just right.
I just saw all the channels do something.
Yeah.
Well, this is...
Am I looking this wrong?
Yeah.
Okay.
You get mayor sang assist during the focus.
I don't know.
Okay, you're looking at it, go ahead.
Thank you, I'm just kidding.
Oh, my focus, Mark?
Yeah, you're good.
Yeah, you're first on moon dancing.
No, I'm sure I'm supposed to be in 1 and 2.
Uh, I don't know, I'm just kidding.
I can mark it if you want, but I just think it's this.
Yeah, because my default one is diamond.
I think what you have now is good.
Yeah, you want to mark it.
I can record it.
Ronnie?
Yeah, I'm good.
I've never been done.
That or what's the number for moon?
I could just have it as a bias.
Also when I came over right into AMS,
those good vibes, if I did right, you guys weren't scared.
AMS sounds dog shit, because you shoot on the portal, right?
As long as you're the last one on the face.
They said they liked the last one.
I mean, we didn't lost there, and we smoked that platform,
right?
Like, that was easy.
OK, I don't have this aesthetic.
It'll be unless you give it to me.
It's all telling you that it's easy.
It's all telling you that it's easy, it's all telling you that it's easy.
With last mages we'll sell the ad for sure. I think we'll even sell it without last so other range probably just attack like
Hope it's still alive hard up when I come in over because otherwise I'm just out there and look at it so
It's perfect. All right, let's go
more p2 pulls
Yep, now is the best pull we've had. That's our best pull
Keep p1 exactly the same. I have even better on
love
five
I don't know a lot of things I like a lot of things then you see how many
BDVs in that intermission seems like we're beating the rest, but it's like just barely
That one wasn't even that close was it?
That's pretty we beat it by like three seconds. Oh that is far. Oh, yeah
So you for your pops here?
Got hit on bunch of waves. All of her melee or did I think?
Babylip and Lip. Maybe Lip and Shack can live. And they can hook
I'm gonna get the frames right now and sketch you.
I live easily, I live fucking easily.
I live out there with the boss, yeah.
How many, it slows you by like a thousand percent, so.
We almost know that.
How do you feel about that clash, Ronnie?
Hahaha.
Another bounce.
Hi, I'm sorry.
As all things should be.
Who moves us up, huh?
You better have wings as well as you go.
Oh, I'm ready to war.
Thanks, how'd they fucking ask for this?
fucking panels quotes that is a fucking insult bro watch out the plane here
bro I watched it on the plane here yeah it was on the fucking plane bro what a
fucking go-to movie I don't even watch the second part is that makes it a bit
worse all righty oh why did all the melee get hit there I went I love
Point something early. What is a little bit early all good track?
She was not the slab you that was what the fucking video takes over
Why does she almost lobel me the first in LA? I don't know. It's good
Look what fun
I was running
three folks
But was now
I mean uh for Lincoln
second rules
and other lines
They've next lines away
Yeah, fucking... even out there.
Here, by the bar.
Put it for your pops, and give space, is there a hard combo?
Dodge wades, into webs.
And then liquid fire there.
Go down there, you broke it.
Dodge mines, make sure you're broken. Good.
If you're not gonna intoxicate, make sure you're close to your marker.
And bridge your wades, two, one, breaking.
Dodge webs into soaks, and squeeze a bit more.
Yeah, man, be your pops.
how about now big a we hit soon watch waves waves big a we in three two one
now nice in sub soon up in three two one okay watch waves watch waves getting
sucked here and we're gonna blast the shield getting sucked three two one nice
Healers too. Bucket healers. Watch waves.
And stop. And stop.
Lost.
Thanks for your nothing to sell.
Oh, that's it.
Oh, we cannot fucking bait in this shit.
It's all your role.
He's good.
We're good at C-Sist.
You're in a timed out with healers.
Watch the lines.
Make sure you go to your correct spot.
You may have moved. Remember?
I don't think they kicked out of data.
Yeah
I think you're just not on the kick no check
They do that they did oh
No, not the worst thing
Yeah, sure, okay, I think the week it's fine. You're going next fire it up. Yeah, it's week or this just be where yeah
Renekos we can measure an echo soon
Good because if you click, go for it again.
There's Renako, port to this platform.
Yeah, I'm here. I want to take an additional look at my densification.
In five seconds, we will, Chief, we will get you.
I think so.
State getting sucked on this side.
And someone who works here, so the key quarter.
The person who's here.
I did it, I did it.
Okay, that thing's dead.
Through the acolytes here.
Through the acolytes, guys, through the acolytes.
Getting sucked in three, two, one.
I'm just gonna start now it kicks on the act on the act like we almost killed them almost done
If we if your neck goes alive in the beginning everything would you day
Somebody zip them over here and kill it.
I can't see anything special on the platform.
Did you guys make it to the last platform?
Yeah, there's no ad.
Dude, I didn't even see it.
Yeah, hopefully the right side gets five ads again.
No, I don't think there's anything.
Dude, that range platform just needs every cooldown on the face of the earth.
I think we should say that as well.
Can we change something on the scale of the second platform?
I'm later coming over to Meli, and I'm
standing outside of Meli for 10 seconds waiting on a dispel
to just tell it better than others.
Yeah, I did the same thing.
So I've been watching the Team Liquid race
to world first on Twitch on my Alienware PC,
cracking open a cold monster, sitting in my secret lab
chair, looking at Coinbase.com on one monitor,
and Warcraft Logs and my parses on another monitor.
And I gotta get my Raider IO score up, because I've been getting declined from a lot of pugs recently.
So I can participate in the Dungeon Dojo.
And then, because I need to improve my game, I check a guide on wowhead.com.
Shout out to all the sponsors.
That was a great event.
What a plug.
And what a pull.
That was a good pull, yeah.
Anyways.
What a pull to listen in on.
That was a very good pull.
So we've seen the ad shields broken twice now.
And I feel like Prague is imminent, so basically we have one more platform of ads to be able
to kill through to be able to actually see into the final phase.
Yeah, literally that final ad is all they have to kill to get knocked up to the platform
and engage the boss for final cast of the fight.
And then after that, it's just dealing with mechanics of P3, hopefully the boss is
low enough to kill.
I feel it in my bones that we're going to have it happen within this casting block.
I'm feeling it.
I think so.
It was nice that they waited for us.
So you and I before the dinner break, three hours later, we're back.
I thought that they were going to be able to have it in the last casting block, but apparently those shields have proven mighty powerful.
They also tried to Shadow Priest on the spot for a little bit.
Yep.
And then they said it sucked, and then they removed it again for another warrior, as it turns out.
Shadow Priest? Not that good. I'm sorry, all the Shadow Priest players out there.
Interesting experiment.
Usually a 4% orinrf is not good enough or a buff is not good enough to swamp one in for the fight
Maybe we'll see a rest of druid too then that also got buffed by 4%
I fear that they might need a
400% buff before we start seeing them much for maybe 40 actually
Best I can do is 40 and then we'll see them. I played with shadow in mythic plus and it actually isn't that bad in mythic
It's not bad in mythic plus. Yeah. Hello, Jack. I'm glad your photo bombing are or cast be professional
I, on the other hand, peak professionalism, of course.
And so, we're going to be checking in on some more Ansarek pulls here in just a moment.
They look like they're having a little bit of a strat discussion, probably talking about
who's going to be doing the most damage to the shields, who's supposed to be holding
cooldowns.
I was kind of listening in on their comms, not only during the monster energy listening,
but whenever we were just off-cast.
And it seemed like they were very carefully trying to coordinate who is doing what damage
to the shield every single time.
Yeah, and you could tell right before we cut off the listen and came back to catch Max
was talking about how pretty much, oh, okay, we need to have pretty much every single personal
and buff on the range side because they were getting destroyed.
Breaking the shield seems like it's a little bit easier than we initially thought it was
going to be.
I mean there's a number of things that help with that, right?
As at 1HP, you can execute it.
At Queen's Mende, it's going to be getting max value on it, and I'm sure a lot
of them are running that drink, even the tanks are running that drink.
So it's going to do a lot of value that on use trinket at max value does like 6 million damage if they have a heroic one
Apparently Sang with three disintegrates did 60% of that shields HP one pole
What yep seems pretty good here three unravels or disintegrates the three disintegrates dissent
Three fully channel disintegrates. Yes. How hard does it hit for enough?
Obviously he buffed it with is it spy masters use there?
I don't think so. I think he's just fire breathed and
Prestus integrate and then attorney serves in Prestus integrate and press it one more time
So it seems like it's break the shield is breakable. It's more about making sure that you can actually get to the the add in time
How does that hit so hard? I'm so confused. Well, the shield's not that large
It's it's only 75 million. Yeah, which is not I mean it's not like a small amount, but you
It's more of a byproduct of being able to get to that add with
somewhere around 15 seconds remaining before it blows up and then you'll be able to kill it off.
It's all about damage allocation and as we were talking about before the break and I'm sure as
they've been working on since the dinner break, damage... it matters at all points in the fight
that we've seen so far. Obviously phase one it matters you got to do as much boss damage as
possible to be able to get the boss low enough in p3 to kill, but there's no like
breathing room in the middle of the fight. You need to be able to break the
the intermission shield before the third pull in, you need to make that 80 second DPS check
to get to the second add and break the shield, and then after that you need to get to the
third platform and kill that add, they get to the top platform before the boss finishes
their cast.
They're still trying to, they're still going to be probably sending their lust there
as well to try to make sure that they're able to get to those shielded mobs of time
just to be able to down that shield and continue to see Prague.
It's very, very unlikely that they leave that loss there for any extended period of time.
It's more just like a safety precaution in order to be able to allow them to see further
progress.
And then as they become more comfortable with the fight, and as they have that comfort with
the fight, it's going to help them, like they'll eventually move off of it.
Yeah, 100%
That was fun.
Have they moved anything off of the mid-intermission shield?
Because that's the big thing.
If you're getting to that consistently at 20 people, you're more consistently going
to be able to break that shield with maybe one or two of them.
Well that was that was one of the thought process with the shadow priest. So the shadow priest is gonna be able to do more damage to that
Okay, that proved to not be not be true. It was doing
Shadow priest damage to it. So it was like fine, but it wasn't great
It was also giving like a PI at the same point. So yeah, maybe a little bit here, but
They they just found more value in the warrior because they could break it without the shadow priest
They just needed everybody to be able to stay alive with that warrior. So that's okay
This is the moment where I just wish we had access to Warcraft Lux so we could look at
shield damage, but obviously- I know, that's what I've been saying.
I'll lend you access to that.
I agree.
What can you do?
It's the name of the game.
You've got to keep as much secret as possible.
So yeah, we'll see.
I mean, consistency is key.
How many times can we get through intermission with 20 players alive, get to that second
phase, and be more comfortable?
Their vibes seem pretty good right now.
Yeah, that's one thing that's been great this entire race.
They've been consistently happy.
There's been almost no Dobby.
Because as you know, Dobby is the mind-killer.
Okay, so where did this Dobby thing come from?
Like, I understand what's a reference to you, but like, how did it start?
I don't remember when it started. It's been in Guild Bed Fridge just forever.
Okay.
It's early pop.
Whoops, mistake.
Unfortunate.
Go again.
Much sadness.
Okay.
Much you can do other than just go again.
That's not something that really needs to be taught.
I feel like they're in a pretty good spot considering that they're only 120 pulls in.
Yeah, I agree. I think we've been on the edge of a breakthrough for a long time here.
Even before the dinner break, we were talking about how if you're breaking that shield with
20 players alive, yes, there's still a lot of damage events that can easily wipe you, right?
You need to make sure you're dispelling the debuffs at the correct time. You need to make
sure you're topped for the poll ins that are still happening in the intermission phase.
But all you have to do is go to that third at, and that's not too hard of a concept to do.
And then you get to see probably a ton of timers in Phase 3.
So, we're right there, like this could very easily go from whatever percentage they have at start of phase one to easily 20% lower in one pull.
And of course, if you're somebody who's just out tuning in at the end of the day and you're wondering why the boss percentage hasn't really dropped that much, it's because almost all of the middle part of the fight, you're not really doing any damage to the boss.
Yeah, I think they've also started to send, you know, like, days or sacrifice and they've been moving the blessing of protection around as well to help them with more damage on that shield from the rest.
And it's like, they're trying to keep all their players alive during that first intermission that we're seeing whenever the Queen Ancerwreck is like dangling by a thread and a shielded.
So basically, that part is actually very difficult in terms of like an HPS check to be able to keep everybody alive.
But they've started sending externals and it seems like it's getting a little bit more consistent now that they started doing that
And so that should help them continue to prog further forward
What's going on here? We got a player dead and unrests. What's happening?
Atlas, where are you?
Can we get an Atlas check?
Atlas
He's there. He's there. If somebody read Atlas, they might just be talking
through probably not waiting you look so you look at logs or something look at a
log is looking at discord for discussions they'll have channels where
they'll talk to them they'll be able to like talk to the analysts and say I want
this to show up in my in my note sounds to do when sounds like some people were
also having UI issues on this boss as well really like what kind I don't
know sounds like the median memory leak making wow lag a bit I mean wow is
notoriously not optimized very sense very unoptimized game and so they were
having to have the mass the mass re-log occasionally dude I've heard so many
people talk about how like their computers are lagging like crazy at home
yeah well yeah I'm like brood twister whenever the aoe comes out but yo shout
out to alien we're hooking us up with some spaceship computers here oh yeah
I mean has nothing to do with PC it's purely to do with the the fight and
And you uh, people's UI's are so poorly optimized sometimes, they can just have bad memory leaks and then
Because of that, then you have to re-log or something like that
But then also sometimes some fights are just terrible, I remember
Oh gosh
I wanna say it was like, Barude Keeper or something that just had a really bad
For some reason everybody just had to re-log all the time on that fight
Yeah, no, there were a lot of actually pretty bad memory like fights in Dragonflight now
that I think about it.
A lot of resetting needed to be done in order to actually progress on those fights.
It doesn't seem to be too big of an issue in this raid.
If they are having that issue now, it would be the first time I've seen it happen to
players.
Yeah, so an interesting point about the UI thing that you just mentioned, I remember
a long time ago, now, it's probably been for like three years now that they've
I'm kind of just told people, you know, like stop using LVI.
Yeah, I mean there, I think, I think L is gone through a couple of different points where
it's pretty good and then it's sometimes not great.
It certainly is pretty high usage on your system and a lot of them will use things
like SUF and you know they'll make up raid frames with cell or click just to fill out
the functions that lvi does but man ever since i started using lvi i can't stop man it's it's
too useful honestly just go back to default ui i can't you should i can't do it that's what i'll
look good good chat i play with it every beta cycle because it's too much of a pain to set up like
full ui is on beta yep and i just i don't know let's go to look at yip's ui this is what peak
performance looks like you might not like it but it is it is not peak performance yes it is peak
performance that that is the best UI that we got see look this is the best UI in
the world bang default gaming why do you even need anything else it's just
covering up details on like half your screen too why not I mean what else are
we gonna be using that part of the screen for nothing see some say this
is optimal he has made a change to his UI since when he played warlock back
in the day. What by adding weak or is no those two bars that are at the kind of in
the middle of the screen those used to be at the very bottom of the screen back
when I knew him he didn't even have weak or so he refused to use week or yeah he
didn't use week or is up until BFA which is kind of the same that was maybe
a little bit weird I couldn't believe that one I could never we got a pole
timer though whatever they were talking about they're done with I didn't see a
the UI update for any of them, which means I didn't...
No, I think that they're just talking strad.
I think that they're probably looking at who's doing how much damage to what shield, and basically
min-maxing their cooldowns and where everything needs to go.
Because best case scenario is you're able to send all of your CDs into the boss.
And you say, to hell with the shield, we'll just out DPS it with no cooldowns.
That's not really possible, of course, but so then they have to then kind of cut
back and be like, okay, so what exactly do we need?
And what exactly are the best cooldowns to actually be using here, and then, is that going to negatively impact us going into the intermission?
Also things, you know, like ret-pally CDs are very, very good at this fight, because your ret-pally has their cooldowns.
Also everything's 30 seconds or something like that.
It's a lot of the time.
Yeah, they have like decent cooldowns like fairly often, and so a spec like ret, of course, is in a great position on this fight to be able to have CDs for pretty much everything.
And so then you just kind of have to move CDs around and just kind of talk about it.
It's just like a natural part of the progression of this boss.
And they actually saw some new stuff in that last pull that we hadn't seen before, the one when they got to the third platform.
They know that they saw what the timing of the next portal was.
They can then plan around who the pairing for that portal is going to be, who doesn't have cooldowns there.
Of course there's going to be another dispel that they're going to have to heal their cooldown or personal on.
There's just a lot of individual mechanics that they have to plan out for as they learn
more and more of the fight.
This intermission into P2 is actually like super nasty, can't keep stressing how difficult
of a mechanic onslaught it is.
Shout out to the YIPS UI by the way.
The entire time of progress, he's had this little Uighur in the top center of his screen
that tells him when Velodar's shadow is plumbing.
This is very important.
Log in, the crystal's turning purple.
Do you think he has it yet?
I don't know, I can ask him later.
He'll log in, though.
In two hours, actually.
I don't think I've killed that, uh, rare a single time.
It's always that stupid ring, man. It's never the mount.
It's literally never the mount. There's just actually no justice.
I just want the mount.
I wish I- I only collected the cool mounts.
And the ones that I get on accident.
I'll never use travel form in the Sun Warms fur line, so I'm- I'm no better, but-
Here we go.
Okay, so they're hitting the last four froths here.
Hopefully everybody's going to be able to make it through.
And now they're going to be going into this intermission
where they have to break that 700 million health shield.
I think Sarri is going to be getting sacked here
because Sarri was...
It's really difficult to live on this fight on a priest, it seems like.
And so, making sure that you're able to get all of your raiders
like through this part of the fight.
And honestly, you can just commit all externals to people
People who believe that they're vulnerable here and just trying to make sure that you keep everybody alive and having like zero variants and maximum
Consistency is the most important thing
Yeah, and you can even see there are certain points in the fight where the priest is kind of getting baby
So they don't have very good movement and times finals don't do anything for them
So yeah, they kind of need rescues to help them get to correct position
Sometimes you could see even on the very first web of the fight. He's getting typhus like Tigers lost for me
Oops, this first field is going pretty good. They're ahead just barely helpers are dropping low. Can we keep people topped?
Think oh, they made it go. We made it through before the third
Polans got to get to our sides and of course as we get to these markers if you're familiar with the fun on a rogue
It's roughly the same
But these portals will spawn throughout the phase on mythic two players on both sides only to go through these portals
You'll get a debuff that needs to get dispelled do a burst of AOE damage
Oh, it's interesting that the evokers are then rescuing that player that has that debuff as well extra shield
Yeah, it's a get together that twin guardian shield. That's that's very nice 20% HP shield is
So, pretty sizable, pretty sizable, yeah.
And that continues to happen throughout the phase. You can see we have yet another portal here on this new platform.
Two players are going to have to go through to spell debuff.
Yeah, the rest of it. Huge burst of damage.
You also have the rest going off on alternating platforms in this phase as well.
Which is pretty obnoxious for some specs.
Ooh, what was that?
That was a debuff getting dispelled, a secondary debuff dying, so insta-exploding.
Ah, brutal. Alright, well, here we go. A gain.
That is pretty...
Dude, there was a scope, I thought somebody got pulled off by the rest and that was maybe
a little bit awkward because that was double de-dying.
Quite crazy how much damage there is in this phase. But we can see the consistency is there
compared to when you and I were casting this four hours ago and they were still having
random deaths even in P1 before the first shield. They've been getting 20 players
to that shield more and more consistently, 20 players through the shield more consistently,
20 players up to the first platform more consistently and that's how you get to see more of the fight
Start breaking that shield more often
Get to that third platform see who needs to go through the portal there
See what damage we need to kill that third ad Yip's is an absolute psychopath. I can't believe he has like max background
FPS checked
as an actual
For what reason do we need max background?
Yes, oh wow, man, please just un-
Uncheck that box
That is a good- why does he- and it's also set to like 15! That's the crazy part!
What?
Why actually- on- okay at home like if you're streaming and you have another monitor open
I can see why you would have that on
But like on these PCs
You can do whatever on them and you'll be fine
Like for those of you at home the PCs that they have have 1,400k's and 48k's in them
Yeah, like their peak performance gaming PCs for current gen
That's that's why they actually have you know pretty solid 60 FPS in some of these raids where
If you don't have if you have a PC that's like two or three years at a date
You might start to chug a little bit on a fight like rude twister
Yeah, I mean, I don't know about you, but like just capital cities
So if I PC it, I'm like, there are like 40 FPS in a capital city.
I don't know, it was pretty bad.
I mean, Valdrakon was worse than Dornadol for me.
I don't even know what was wrong with Valdrakon,
but that was not a good zone for my computer.
Dude, it was actually crazy.
I upgraded from a 10900K, which was a fantastic CPU
to the 7800X3D in my Valdrakon FPS double.
The CPU is a hack.
I have a 5800X, and that thing
not bad for literally everything else except for playing with a warcraft
apparently and I don't know why oh Valin you made a mistake 75 the 7950
doesn't have the same cash that the extra deep in 7800 does 7800 extra is
actually a better gaming processor than the 7950 I'm sorry it doesn't make
any sense it's just it's just the way it's just the game it's just the cash
the memory has yeah they have a ton of cash on it that is very weird okay
anyways x3d's are very very good for gaming yes but 10 out of 10 we'll
recommend we'll probably buy one wherever I'm gonna make computer eventually
but not yet the new series is coming up pretty soon isn't it
or am I already be out not sure I look like it's gonna be a wipe again for
liquid these things happen you just reset and go again how I follow tech is
Whenever I'm in the market for buying a new computer, then I look at it in between
Usually do piecemeal so like I'll update half the parts
Every like one and a half years and then the other half every
Another one and a half years
Talamaz he sold me a used Ford Pinto and a
3080 ti
Why did he sell you a Ford Penta?
I needed a car.
Oh, okay.
I think I had one.
Okay.
And the 3080 Ti kind of sell my story.
So what story are you having?
I needed a GPU.
I think I had one.
Dude, I remember back when the GPU shortage was a thing and it was impossible to just
buy one without getting, what's the word, I can't think of it right now, I haven't
had to think of it for a while.
Without getting price couched.
Okay.
I signed up for the EVGA waitlist.
Yeah.
Because you could like sign up for the site and they would mess up.
Rest in peace EVGA with the one team.
Rest in peace.
14 months later I got my email for that graphics card.
That seems not great.
I mean I may as well buy it and like just sell it at its MSRP to one of my guildies.
So that's how I got Lip one of his GPUs.
Wait you bought it for Lip?
I bought it for MSRP and I'm like hey if one of you wants this I'll just sell it to you for MSRP.
How bad.
Take those.
Alright, next pull.
Hopefully no...
Froth bomb...
Ride the wave incidents.
No Cowabunga on this fight. If you get hit by a wave you die basically.
Oh yeah.
Also if you aren't in your froth, then the raid gets a massive dot.
Mm-hmm.
Uh, so basically how it works is...
You need the exact same, ideally.
You need the exact same number of players inside...
Uh, inside the froths and each one that's desynced you actually get...
Like damage like applied to you as a dot so it's you really have to make sure that the the groups are even
Yeah, I mean we saw that a lot on heroic right if you ever hit the frets too far apart from each other
He's gonna attend stack and instantly wipe
Kind of like what's happening right now? That was interesting. They accidentally propped the range one there. Oh, well happens
Yeah, well arc is able to stay alive
hunters
Fame death question from chat titles. What's up? It's the best snack to have when you're taking a breather or a break from reading
like in between
Poles they're like on a five minute break
Like baby carrots, I I don't know little ranch. No, not a ranch ball
Baby carrots raw. That's my favorite. What is yours?
Those are up there those are actually really good
I also like with with French onion dip
Okay, maybe carrots are good though. That might be mine too actually. I don't know. I I don't want something that's like super heavy
Yeah
Cliff bar also not too bad
You're no love always good the bar also a cereal ice cream eater. I love ice cream
And it just happens to love me more I think
That's why it stays with me at all times after I eat it
Still, at least to walk around with me.
I try to not eat it that much, but I love ice cream also.
What's your favorite ice cream flavor?
Oh my gosh, I'll have Ben and Jerry's Cherry Garcy ice cream.
Ah, that's a good one.
No ad.
That was an instant answer.
No ad. That is the go to ice cream.
I have no questions about that.
Never go wrong with a good butter pecan.
You know Michigan has their own like state, like favorite ice creams?
huh yeah what do you mean so like moose tracks comes from michigan okay and then they also have like
their own super secret flavor up there they call superman ice cream is that is that made with that
bad water i don't think so okay superman ice cream is kind of like um it's like neapolitan but like
three other flavors you sure it's not gonna turn you into superman with all the wetting or something
Is it how Spider-Man was made too?
No, Spider-Man got it by a spider.
Radioactive spider.
Oh, it's in the water also.
I'm gonna get off the jokes.
Superman Ice Cream is a blue, yellow, and red.
But I don't think people actually know what the individual flavors are, especially the blue.
It just tastes good, apparently.
How do you even come across this fact?
Well, I have family in Michigan.
Oh, okay, that's fair. You know, I'm valid.
I do like Neapolitan ice cream just generally.
I find very few ice creams I don't like, so...
Bit of a mess in that way.
All right.
Nearing the end of the phase here,
this is that nasty overlap that was proving to be a large challenge for them.
Yeah, this is pre-dinner.
They've changed their positioning here a little bit.
I don't know if you noticed that.
They have, instead of doing a solid line of all four,
Yeah.
They have it set up to do two melee ones and two ranged ones
So I guess they can split a pike the damage and take a little bit
I kind of like that it the still a dangerous part of this is just like getting
Accidentally knocked back either into the waves are getting knocked back like
Into those rest like
Webs it's kind of tough. Oh, it looks like everybody's a bit low. Malarkis actually kind of dipping pretty low
That's why they dropped double anti-magic zone there, but everybody. Oh yips an impact
I think it's just we're a little bit too close to the boss actually getting sucked all the way in
Going down
One no no battle resistance a white. It's a white for sure
Can't do it without without a tank unfortunately
tough
So you've been living in Chicago for a for a little while now. Yeah, have you submitted to the some of the Midwestern ways up there yet?
I
Don't know why but they get real attached to Italian beef, and I'm not a fan. I don't get it
I'm gonna say I don't understand you also told me you didn't like deep-dish pizza. Just also don't like pizza that much
I might be a fraud
What about a Portillo's
Okay, I
Said I don't like Italian beef. I don't know man. It's I it's okay
Have you have you started getting an accent up there yet or what do you think I live yeah or not?
I don't live in Michigan
We're close to Wisconsin
Down there, don't you not really don't you know?
Yeah, or not. It's pretty far south, but it's right over there right chair or yonder
Okay, well people from Chicago do not sell people for take a couple years. Oh, you'll get there
What about culvers big cool? Uh, I had culvers in Missouri. It was okay. I'm not big on cheese curds either
Okay
Cheese curds guy either man. I think cheese curds are okay. Yeah
Dude, you're oh you just keep asking me about things that I don't like I don't
You're gonna make me come off like I'm like super picky or something like that. No, no, not true
What do you like about Chicago?
Personally, I liked the fact that I sold my car and I just get to walk
Oh, that's actually nice public transportation. Yeah, whatever. So you you live in Dallas
Remember, I also lived in Dallas could not walk anywhere without
Basically I had to have a car at any given moment.
Oh yeah, if I don't have a car I can't get anywhere.
Yes.
Cheese curds are overrated? Chat.
Please.
I...
For similar reasons that I don't like pizza, I don't like cheese curds.
Greasy food, I'm just like...
If I'm in the mood for it, I'm in the mood for it.
I just don't love greasy food all the time like that.
And, you know, cheese curds and pizza are typically greasy.
It's not always true.
Those are like a once a week thing, Max.
Yeah.
You gotta be in the mood for it,
otherwise you'll feel terrible afterwards.
My gosh, dude, people are posting Ascii's.
Ascii's are against the law.
No more of that, man.
That's just gonna make them do it more.
Oh man.
They've been posting the THD with the bird on us.
That Ascii a ton.
I just wanted to, what did I say?
I just wanted to know if Tels will choose
Ice Cream for life or One Full Day of Zalatath.
I got good news.
I choose both here let's go
We have a second date planned. Oh really when after the race don't look at me
We have a second date plan for after the race, baby. We're back
It went so well that we got another one. Let's go. We got there is we have to change your low
Your lower third you see they were production. I was trying to flame you when we came on broadcast. Nope didn't see that
I'm sure they loved that yeah, so yeah, so I'll tap the million we kind of hit it off. Oh, yeah
Yeah, she's going to see that waiter right now, but I don't really I don't mind too much
Yeah, that waiter was kind of I don't know what was going on with that way
I was trying to put the moves on my honey style a little bit man. That's fine. I was kind of weird
We went hung out after he said it was a musician or something. I don't really understand though. Yeah, that's weird
Told him he probably needed to
get a job
probably
maybe like
Soundboard operator something
Something like that. Could be good
So it's not taking a while between poles here
But I think I think that there's just like a lot to be discussed really is yeah
It's it's one of those fights like whenever you're doing bleeding edge progression
Okay, so whenever you're like naturally progging to fight, more often than not you have just
like a script that's already shown to you that you can follow, right?
You have a guide of some kind that you're just going to be able to follow and be like
oh okay this is how they were doing this, this is how they were doing this, and there
are reasons that the gills that came before you were doing it or are doing it a specific
way.
Whenever you are the people who are making the guide basically, you have to come up
with all of those things yourself, and basically just,
in like a normal guild, you wouldn't spend 15 minutes
talking about who's doing damage to a shield instead,
you would just be like, well,
all these other guilds who have killed it before us
did this, why you should be doing this as well.
And so, I think that like,
this is just part of prog-ing, generally speaking.
And I mean, it's even gonna be something
that the guilds will young from each other
in the top three, right?
Aiko will have this Vod to look through,
I'm sure their analysts are actually watching it live or as much as they can just to try to clean any extra information
And of course when liquid comes back tomorrow and sees what echo is doing
They'll probably watch them too just to try to get any extra information there as well
It's part of the race now. Whenever one's streaming their POVs
You kind of just want to get as much information as possible
So well, yeah
I mean you don't need you don't need logs if you have everybody's POV streams in that way you can
Actually look at all their raid cooldowns in real time
Just by like stream hopping
We'll see.
Question and chat again.
We talked about the double pop.
Double pop, yep. Still had the debuff.
Hit it one millisecond early.
Unfortunate.
It was my, oh yeah, somebody was asking.
Oh man, 63%
Oh, yeah.
120 pulls in.
My last two more days. Well, there's 63% on the boss
and they've also gotten about halfway through this fight.
This fight might still last two more days.
It might still.
Friday, you know, on when they killed Silicon Court on Monday, we were kind of talking about,
well, depending on how difficult the fight is, we could maybe kill it Thursday night,
at the very earliest, like if the last phase is super easy.
You were talking about that actually before, Denny, you want to go back over what you were
talking about?
Uh, about when the boss can realistically die?
Yeah, like, based on his difficulty.
Yeah, so I think based on his difficulty, there's a chance to die Thursday.
I don't think it's like, overly likely.
I would probably still give it like a 20 to 25% chance to die Thursday.
It's more just like, we don't exactly know how difficult the last phase is
to be I'm kind of expecting tomorrow you know I expect like one pull into the
last phase tonight tomorrow we see you know the beginnings of Prague in the
last phase and then depending on how hard that is and how consistent they
can actually get into the last phase it realistically can die Thursday but I
think that's pretty unlikely I think it's a lot more likely that it dies
tomorrow and they just spent a lot of tomorrow prog'ing that final phase and
And then Saturday, if the fight is incredibly hard, 300 plus pulls, there's a chance it dies
like Saturday.
Yeah, I think it's a pretty accurate statement, I would agree with you on that.
I think Friday is most likely Saturday, second most likely.
Thursday, yeah, the last phase is super easy.
Thursday is like you proc the last phase being really easy and the damage check isn't
too bad.
Well, you also just played insane.
I think it's a lot of stuff.
Also it could be all three of those things, yes.
it would probably need to be all three.
But of course, they can do that.
They did it on Sarkarath.
Sarkarath was a fight they figured out very quickly
and got figured out very early.
So somebody in Chad just said,
hopefully Blizzard doesn't nerf it when Liquid goes to bed.
I don't see a reason that this fight needs to be nerfed yet.
It's one of the situations
where whenever you're looking at fights
that need to be nerfed,
it's pretty quickly apparent the reasons
that you would be looking to nerf a boss.
For a boss like this, they're wiping a bunch,
But it's still like normal stuff.
There's also not some insane Omo damage check
that's like unbeatable.
Basically they're just wiping to learning how to do the boss.
Right.
And just like strategy stuff,
which is completely reasonable to be wiping to.
Yeah, and there are a couple of other random spot deaths
that are occurring.
You know, maybe the puddles aren't placed
in the exact right spot,
so the people who are popping the puddles
aren't quite comfortable with that position
and they might accidentally pop them too late or pop them too early.
That's happened a couple of times.
I mean, there's a lot of things that people probably still haven't seen, even 125 pulls
in.
We were talking about this on Nexus Princess Kavessa as well, right?
If you're somebody who got an assassinate in one phase or one of those Twilight Massacres
in another phase and you weren't familiar with how to do that yet, it would be easy
to die there.
You can look at videos of somebody else doing a mechanic, but if you haven't done
at yourselves and you aren't comfortable with the button presses. You have a much higher chance of
making a mistake, so things like placing puddles in the exact right spot. Maybe somebody places a
world marker for your puddle in the wrong spot and it messes you up. That could be something that
leads to a death which could lead to a wipe. But again, here we go. 20 players alive heading into
the phase health bars are low from the froth and from the debuff that the players have to go
place outside the raid here. That's why they use the double AMZ like you talked about a couple
poles ago and the healing cooldowns are there. They've been more consistent at doing this
part of the fight. Cleanly they know the damage they need to break the shield. Their aim is
to beat the shield down before the third pole in. Yes. The second one coming up, now it's
a kill of top HP. Just have to make sure you don't get pulled into one of those toxic
orbs. They're way ahead of that red line on the
on THD's screen.
Way ahead.
This should be easy.
They can spread out super early here
and get to their ad positioning.
Start.
That was second.
That was an insanely fast push.
Oh, yeah.
Like we were talking about.
So they were lusting that earlier today.
And they actually don't even need to anymore.
And they were making it through with 20 players alive.
It's just making sure that you
see a lot of the unique situations
that you could be presented with,
making sure that you are pre-positioning in the ways
that are the most optimal.
and you take the least damage.
You also end up figuring out exactly how many
defensives that you need to be pressing
at what specific point that will help you a lot.
And so now everybody's getting knocked up to these platforms.
And what we're looking to see with Prague
is the second platform being able to break the shield.
We've seen it be broken twice before,
but it's not like something that happens super consistently.
Riku does end up going down,
but we do have a battle res available for him.
So we are able to get him back up,
and then Scott and Daisy are going down.
Now players on Scott's platform side are going to be starting to get melee to death
And I think it's one of the situations where I don't know Scott got pulled off the platform
What exactly happened, but it's kind of hard to see on the platform as a bear drew it
You know it brew master monk easy time. They just transcend
Or they can even potentially roll, you know, they just even her can infernal strike
Bear was buried you know
They can wild charge maybe more skull bash, but it's it's not great
Yeah. Okay, well, we'll see it.
The VDH could just glide even, yeah.
And then DK can press Death's Advance and just...
Vibe, I guess.
Yes.
We'll see it again. I mean, again, proof of concept.
20 players through the shield, 20 players onto the first platform.
We need to keep seeing that. People need to just keep getting comfortable with that intermission phase.
Healers need to get comfortable healing it.
There's a lot of burst damage that goes up anytime a debuff is dispelled.
dispelled. You can see the HP bars on that side of the raid just get chunked for like 70 or 80%
of their health bars. It's kind of crazy. And then of course they need to be topped right back up before
the Poland as well. It's pretty nasty. But yeah, I don't know. You can while charge your skullbush in
theory. It's just like pretty obnoxious on bear whenever it's like so easy on some of the other tanks.
Well, Scott's already done seemingly the impossible this raid already, solo tanking.
Oh solo tank the nexus princess on a bear. Yeah, dude. That was crazy because he wasn't even like he wasn't even taking the tank busters
From on nexus princess because the yips was taking most of them
And then they swapped the solo tanking and this just got taken all them was like yep
This seems awful. Yep, and it wasn't great
But you made happen though. They did it
They did twice quick and it didn't seem like it was that much of a liability
So yeah, their reclear was good too. The reclear was fantastic
I don't know if we necessarily talked about it too much just as a caster group
But the Echo Reclear was not great yesterday.
Yeah, they had a tough time.
I didn't say the rest of their clear,
but for some reason on Nexus Princess Kavessa,
it just wasn't getting together for them.
They spent about three and a half to four hours
re-clearing that boss,
and it was just individual mistakes all over the place,
maybe it was just personal.
It was just brutal, honestly.
It was an external, it's just a tough fight.
And I think Liquid played incredibly well.
Took them about an hour.
Just get it back down, yeah. It was 12 pulls for Nexus Princess for Liquid, it took 45 minutes to an hour or so.
And uh, yeah, that gave them an extra three hours or so.
Little mistake on the knockup here, might have been a little bit too early.
I think we saw players coming back down before the Venom Nova actually went out there.
I guess, do you think that something like that will actually end up affecting the outcome of the race to world first?
Because losing four hours isn't like, or, I guess it would be three hours, right? Because you just,
You kind of budget an hour to be able to kill that thing you're not assuming that you're one-shotting it
So losing three hours is that like a big deal? I don't I guess I don't think it is losing the three hours itself
It's not great. I think the problem is that people were getting kind of tilted
It's it's a big mental sure because you have to remember the timing of the raid where you obviously I'm not in the
Players head. I'm not gonna know exactly how they're feeling
But for me if I was a raider in that situation
starting the raid at 5 a.m. it's 8 p.m. we're wiping on a boss we killed last
week for three hours I'm gonna be kind of tilted if people are just playing
poorly and not doing the things they need to do to re-kill the boss that's me
though and I'm not reading the world first race anymore so I don't know it
was a long day for them they made it back up to Queen Anne sorry that's the
important thing I don't think those three hours are really gonna cost them
that much in terms of time the inevitable slingshot is going to
happen where they're gonna go back and look at the vods from liquid for today
that'll help them fuel their progress for the next day and I wouldn't be
surprised if we see them at least get to the same point liquids at right now yeah
let me do some pretty early in the day some item all checking real quick we'll
see what both liquid and echo are at item wise so currently liquid is
sitting at 625.3, which I think that's pretty good.
What does it echo?
I suspect it's probably ending up being about the same.
Let's see.
I hope I can't click the, with the progress button.
624.8.
So that's half an item level ahead for liquid.
Pretty significant difference.
Half an item level.
I did not expect it to be that big.
That's actually a lot.
Half an item level is a huge amount of progress.
I mean, if you think about it,
half an item level was the reason
that Liquid was able to kill Nexus Princess last week.
That's true.
They went and farmed that extra half-isle
that came back and it was night and day.
Okay, interesting.
According to Chad, apparently they stole some vaults
and they haven't done their crafts yesterday.
Okay, and they pulled Ansarek, didn't they?
How many pulls did they actually do yesterday?
They did like 30 pulls of Ansarek.
How did that even happen?
Why did we crash?
That was a little weird.
That doesn't seem kind of random.
Normally you would want to do that before pulling the final boss.
You know what? It's fine.
But if that is true, then they should catch up a little bit.
Eh, we'll see.
I think that the race is still basic.
I don't want to say coin flipping, because I think that liquid is ahead.
But if I had to give odds, I'm thinking like 60, 40, 65, 35 liquid wins.
That's where I'm feeling about it that's where I feel right now and obviously liquid is ahead
There's also some stuff with you know in a advantage. There's some stuff with but just in general. I mean liquid is played
Basically perfect the entire tier. I mean that you can come you can talk about some minor stuff, but it's there's no
Medium or even large blunders
Yeah, I mean maybe the only blunder was not knowing about farming boes on day one mythic last week
But, at the end of the day that cancelled out because neither did that go our method.
So it wasn't that big of a deal.
The only way that's ever going to be a big deal is if hotpot hero comes from behind with
an extra item level off the top rope and steals a world.
That's looking unlikely though.
Also, you have a pretty low pull on silkencourt though.
Is that 18% that I see on the lift there?
Yeah, that's on last from set, right?
Yeah.
So they're also 36 hours behind and so a Chinese victory
It's possible it just I think it requires a lot
Could you imagine if that happened that would be insane? Yeah, that would I
Think that would be completely wild
Eddie's also offering up a bounty if a if a guilt on a Chinese realm actually ends up winning world first
That's pretty crazy, and it's increasing every single tier to you. I
I think, yeah, it goes up in value every single tier so people are gonna be more and more and more
incentivized to go for it. Maybe some of these guilds will try to put together some of their best players and
go for a big kill. I mean already in their first year back
four of them in the top ten.
Pretty crazy. They've got some really good players over in China.
Not only in raid, but in the Mythic Plus scene as well. I'm looking forward to see them
hopefully back in the MDI and TGP.
That would be nice.
Big fan of their dungeon play. They're really quite good.
Big fan of An'wo. Big fan of Shinchun.
Hi, Melody. A lot of big names over there.
So Melody isn't playing anymore?
I don't think Melody's playing anymore, but...
Shout out Yuloh. Zybebe.
My goats. Rare.
Rare? Oh, Rare is my other goat.
Rare is insane.
Rare showed us so much dungeon tech in Season 4 and Shadow in Dragonflight, rather.
Yep, sometimes I had to get in the trenches of Daewoo to figure out what was going on with some of those...some of those teams.
Yeah!
They were one of the two...they were the team that showed off the Oldamontech after a second boss, or third boss, where you had your entire team port back to the start of the instance, and your tank ran through, shadow melded, and...
They're also the people that did the weirdo jump-skip on tier, where you would LOS his cast and then he was brick for the rest of the fight. That was cool.
Don't look at me.
Hopefully we see them come back soon.
If not for MDI, definitely for TGP. I'd love to see them in TGP.
Yep.
Look at what's on screen a little bit. Just gotta recap some of the mechanics I wrote.
Explain to the viewers who are just maybe joining in for the first time
What exactly is going on with phase one of answer reckon like what what are we looking for for progression on this fight?
So surprisingly enough most of the mechanics
They act quite similarly to what you might see and even even heroic or normal, right?
These webs that they get on the players. They still will root you and you'll need to kill them
Unless you have a way of breaking yourself out of your roots
Fortunately for Liquid, and I'm sure Echo and Method are going to do the same thing,
almost every single player that's able to or needs to has swapped to Gnome for this fight.
Shout out to the escape artists.
Gnome up.
Escape artist is a one-minute cooldown that frees you from a route, which means that's
an ad that your raid no longer has to kill.
They are essentially trying to immune every single route in this phase.
I think at the second route they leave like four of them up.
Those need to be AoE down pretty quickly.
pretty easy for this comp with, you know, two fury warriors, two death knights, etc.
So they should be okay on that front.
The main change that you're probably noticing on Mythic is the way that the acidic froth
mechanic works.
When they drop these puddles on the ground, on the first mechanic of the fight, only
two of them drop.
Pretty simple to do.
Kind of just treat it the same as her o.
Split the raid in half, one in one puddle, one in the other puddle.
Go go.
There is a slight change on Mythic, though, whenever you hit one of those puddles, it gives
you a one-second debuff, which, if you hit another puddle inside that one second, will
essentially instantly wipe the raid.
Now, the thing that makes this particular mechanic difficult is that every single one
of these froths that the boss does spawns one extra puddle, so first puddle, two
of those circles, second set, three of them, and then the final set, there's
four of them, which means they have to split up into four groups of five players,
It means they're splitting that damage between the fewer players, taking higher amounts of burst damage,
and that was a bit of a struggle for them.
That was one of their first progression points of the fight, but they've cleaned that up quite a bit since then.
There's also a pretty nasty overlap on Mythic that doesn't happen on Heroic on that set of four froths,
where they get a set of webs in the forehand.
And then they have the waves coming out as well, and the way that they have to do the four froths,
So like you were saying, they had that one second apart.
Otherwise they end up wiping.
It just happens with a lot of other mechanics at the same time.
So it's super, super haptic.
Now the other main change on Mythic,
and this is kind of a little bit of a transition into the first intermission,
is when you drop these webs on Mythic, they grow a lot.
Yes.
They cover up a ton of the platform, and they continue growing.
I kind of wonder what the last is going to look like.
Yeah, it cuts off a lot of the platform from being used and that also happens in the intermission as well every single time the boss pulls you in.
You then are taking up another chunk of the platform so there's not a lot of room to work with and you have to be very careful with all of your space.
Yeah, and so then after, as I mostly described phase one, then after that you kill two adds, where you actually break a 700 million health shield, very casually of course.
Casually break it. Yeah, you can actually break a 700 million health shield
It's that's mostly there's there's a bit of a damage check on it
But it's mostly also a healer check as well making sure that everybody's able to stay alive from all the damage
That's that's going out and then you have like the the first intermission phase
Where you end up jumping from these platforms and then you do some like platform hopping in order to be able to
Continue to press the fight
Basically, what's going on with liquids were continuing to prog the the platform hopping area
They have just taken a looks like a five minute break gonna let everybody you know kind of walk around
Some people get some snacks. Yeah, some people are gonna
You know Scott's gonna re-upload some gum probably and that kind of stuff, but yeah basically five minute break
Seems fairly common, and I think that we might be getting a new caster here in a couple seconds to be joining us
Welcome back to the desk
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Can everybody in chat spam drady one time for the one time? What's up? What's up gang has the has the prog been going?
It's been going good man. It seems like it's been uh...
It's been consistently getting in P1 through P1. Yeah. It seemed like it had been uh maybe maybe not quite the pace of progression that we've been hoping for over the last few hours is that a fair assessment from the I was watching it mostly mostly muted due to you being on the cast titles up so I'm not sure if I got a great take of what exactly was going on.
Yeah, I think it's a pretty fair assessment. I feel like we would have liked to see more
of PQM, maybe even seen a little bit of Phase 3 at this point, but they've been getting
more consistent at getting to Phase 2, or the platforms I guess, is that Phase 2? Do we
call that Phase 2?
Yeah, Phase 2's platforms, Intermission is when they get gripped in.
Okay, so then Phase 3 would be the top platform. They've been getting consistently
to the shield on Phase 2, but not necessarily breaking it every pull. So we just need
to be more consistent there. That portal mechanic, adding debuff to the fight,
is really proving to be a problem for them.
Hmm. Yeah, it seemed like it did a lot of damage and the ground seemed really quite lethal as well.
Shield seems also kind of inconsistent, getting 20 players to the adds with the shields on them is tough, but you know it's not tough.
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Exciting night of some more progression
How have you been feeling about the boss? I've been feeling great. It's uh, you know, okay
The progression may have slowed a little bit, but I think that the Phase 1 difficulty is actually really key here because it feels like the P1 has cleaned up, but it remains not 100%.
I think it's not past the time where they should be thinking about Phase 1 yet.
There are some bosses where it's like, okay, we're going to get Phase 1 up to a certain ceiling, and then we're just never going to think about it again, and we're going to be thinking about the future phases.
This one, I feel like there is still room beneath the ceiling of how consistent Phase 1 could be
that they should be trying to reach based on the kind of wipes that I've been seeing.
It's kind of interesting too because they've also moved their lust around a lot,
where initially at the very beginning of like today, they were lusting the shield phase,
where the boss has a 700 million HP shield, but now they've moved that lust and now
they're actually lusting the intermission while they're trying to kill off the spiderlings
and they just kind of continued to be lusting for Prague to try to see as far into the
of the fight as possible. But they need to be hitting that ceiling for P1 consistency
I think before we actually start to see anything else improving on this boss.
This might be a situation where the prog lust might have been actually hurting them a little,
but they might have gotten maybe too used to it and then swapping off of it might
be causing some of those wipes.
We do see that happen.
I feel like the prog lust was more for the shield than the phase itself and they
continue to wipe in the phase because they have like one or two deaths.
Somebody gets hit by a wave, Cowabunga, surfs up, and then they end up dying.
Always a catastrophe whenever that happens, yeah.
I feel like it's not just a LES as well, it's allocation of effects like Mad Queen's mandate,
which we're seeing a lot of these players using.
Those are huge chunks of damage, and figuring out where those should be.
As we're starting to see more of Phase 2, it seems like there's some really good opportunities for some burst damage,
and so Mad Queen's mandates and cooldowns and stuff being sent there
means not sending them on that intermission shield if you can afford it,
But then you get to the intermission with two people dead or one person dead and all of a sudden the balance is thrown off
And yeah, it's all kind of spirals out of there. So really the I know for me
The diagnosis is the phase one consistency seems really important to me
And then phase two, I don't know of the polls. They've been getting to phase two
There've been a few that have gone fairly deep into that phase
So they've broken the shield from the ads twice. Yeah, I think I don't think that we've actually seen to the next
Platform or there's one that was really there was one that was really close
And we definitely haven't seen into the last phase yet
There's also a like a huge question looming of how difficult that last phase is going to be the last phase was quite simple on heroic
The check was pretty much non-existent as well on heroic
But I seriously doubt it's going to be like that. Here's the thing about that phase on heroic
It's easy on heroic easy because you can do a lot of damage to the boss during p1 that
carries over into p3
Yep, and then by the time you get to p3 if you have sufficient amount of gear which
And you know if you're doing it in a geared pug or a guild group at this point on
You're able to kill the boss well before all of the mechanics start overlapping a lot
It and a heroic it has a really generous curve of you start the phase
Nothing's happening. Nothing's happening one mechanic one mechanic one mechanic
Then like two minutes in is when you start getting your actual first overlap on mythic
I suspect you're going to enter the last phase
The boss is gonna jump down from the web and you're going to get like a triple overlap of nasty mechanics right off
the bat and it's going to only ramp up from there.
There's also a question as to whether or not we have a mythic only mechanic because Blizzard
loves to hide stuff from the dungeon journal for mythic only mechanics.
They might have a mythic only phase, although I feel very unwelved.
I doubt the phase.
I think the mechanic is likely.
I think that there might be a mechanic that we could see in mythic mechanics.
Yeah.
But I mean, so one of the things that's interesting as well on Heroic, you mentioned
that when you get to that final phase, you kind of don't have to do anything
for a little while.
That's because of the casting mechanic, right?
Once you've dealt with the shield item, that second platform in phase two, you have another
third timer.
All this one's a little easier than the other two are, where you need to kill off that final
add on the third platform, and then you go up to the boss's platform and you have the
remainder of that cast.
I think it actually starts a new cast when you get up to B3, that's almost 20 seconds.
That's an extra-sort of a new one?
Yeah, because there is the acidic kill you all cast, it starts when you kill
the add on the second platform, and then when you kill the add on the third platform,
she starts the aphotic cast, and that one is, I think, a 20-seconder.
Okay, so I still have the 20 seconds. Yeah, so quickly. Have you guys been feeling about the state of the race?
I feel like I feel like very often we're talking about like what actions actually going on on screen with team liquid
But in terms of just like the more broad state of the race, what if what have you guys been thinking about that?
Okay first, I think that the so the echo re clear was quite bad
But I feel like the opportunity to catch up from what's been happening here in phase two is definitely pretty high
Okay, like a lot of information has been available there
And there hasn't been a tremendous amount of frog over the past few hours that makes me think it might be possible to do better than that
I'm not 100% sure though. I feel like liquid are still doing pretty well
And they've really got a couple more hours of Prague potentially available to them today
So we'll get to see how all of that turns out. Sairu. Yeah, I agree
We were talking about that a little bit before you came on. I think the slingshot is very much still in here
I suspect they'll wake up behind like we will I think they'll wake up behind
But obviously with a full day of Prague ahead of them
they'll be able to look at what that goes doing unless it goes dark, which could still happen.
Has been known to happen, but I, and I wouldn't be surprised actually if Liquid started having P3
pulls tonight, if they were to also go dark after experiencing one of those potentially.
Yeah, we were talking about that as well. Like they're very close to a massive breakthrough
pull, right? They do a 20 man alive through those shields. They could easily see extremely
far into P3, just base and get some timers alone. That third ad doesn't do a whole lot.
We saw we saw we already saw it one time right before our shift when we were doing our listen in they killed both shield ads
And we're able to run up the the platform to the third ad and
There wasn't that up there and there was a portal up there
And of course as they saw the new mechanics you get the telltale Alice scream is there like really happy to see something new for the
Yeah, I heard that even from just in the building
There are a lot of things you hear just in the building like when they were BOE farming if a BOE dropped
that was quite a quite an experience yeah we have Darth thd on the screen right
now put up estimators oh wow that is energy saving mode I believe bouncing
off several of those you know rays from his head what's the quote from evil
moments 38 rare POV of thd mad
He actually does kind of look a little mad from how far away we are.
Yeah, he sometimes looks like that. He never actually, almost never actually is.
He's just focused up.
Yeah, he's locked in. That's good.
I think he's the last player to leave the building every single day.
Very often he is. I remember after the Nile, they raced to World First as well.
The day after they got World First, N'Zoth.
That was so weird by the way.
He was in the building grinding island expeditions.
After they killed World First.
After they killed it.
It was like they went out to get dinner and then he came back and was grinding isled expeditions
There's also incredible lore that after they got world second Queen Ishara
He just showed back up to the the venue and was grinding pearls
In that guitar for what reason he didn't even leave the venue
We went out to celebrate and got like dinner and like drinks at a bar
He stayed at the venue and just farmed pearls the pearls were for the deer for the raid
Yeah, anyways, it's good. The race is already finished. Alright. That's good. That's just good min-maxing
Ultimate gamer min-maxing for what next year next year you know what I mean next year wouldn't the
Benthic gear didn't matter
It's great a lot of stuff to he does you know a lot of times other people are grinding gear because they have to
DHD often is doing it just for the love of the game
Yeah, that's why whatever people see him tweet out things like I wish they brought back AP
Yeah, some people think that he's kidding. No, he's quite serious. He is not very serious
They have a death on Malarkas so he pointed that out. Yeah, they battle rest of them all good. Yeah, no big deal
We beat the third pole yesterday. Oh, we're gonna have Malarkas down again as is impact. Onk is available there
They're gonna commit it. Yeah, we gotta keep going. This is the first time we've seen this in a while
We've been talking a lot. We haven't had the greatest pulls in P1
So one DPS down we can still make this DPS check just have to play absolutely clean here
The only problem I can see is if Molochus was essentially one of those debuff holders that goes for the portal, but I don't think he is.
Yeah, and even then they could potentially adapt to that at this point.
Oh, looks like a portal went uncontested.
Yep, they didn't destabilize it.
Well, they probably were planning to beat that one by killing the adds in time, but they were unable to.
I think you're probably right now that I'm thinking about it.
One interesting note is that the Shaman Oncability scales very nicely with the longer your time between pulls are.
more strategizing you do the better those shamans get the more pulls they get
to onk on it. Okay hold on whoever's whoever's mass rest has to top impact right
now please heal him. Oh yeah get him full so that his onk recolors faster. Yeah
exactly yeah shout yeah nice there is one of the first top players. Those are
what those are the min maxes that liquid will do. Surely that's something
they were thinking about. Valuable brain power going into that rather than
anything else. Mythic Queen and Sirac. Yeah it literally anything else. Yeah
Something that's actually quite annoying about this raid, which hasn't been an issue in past raids, is the addition of the Hardy Feast, which is obviously nice quality of life.
The problem with it is, when you rez, they top themselves up. So the healers are sitting there like, guys I need to get mana, but I also have to top you up.
It's okay, we don't have a disc priest. What you need to do is you need to get everybody mage food and actually just give them a week or other they click to eat their mage food.
And then there's always that one guy who drops a normal feast because it's just like an autopilot. Yes, three people click in there like man
Just catastrophe why?
why
brutal I
Think I think that liquid's doing okay here. They really I would have loved to have seen a final phase pull
From today. I think that that would have been like a successful day all things considered
We don't have to see it for it to just be a not successful day
It's this this fight is a lot of strategizing. We saw whenever they were pulling
Nexus princess that they were just kind of like chain pulling right that they would res it was a 15 second timer
They would pull again whereas with Queen answer right
There's a lot more strategizing involved on a fight like this before you're actually able to
You know continue to see progression and I think it's just one of the slow and steady kind of encounters
Looking at the item level for echo. Yeah, I'm looking at I don't and compositions as well
So we were looking at item level a bit earlier. I think that liquid was
625.3 and Echo was 624.8. Now, allegedly,
some Echo members hadn't sent for their crafts or picked their item out of their vault. So yeah, that makes sense.
It's kind of expected that that's gonna shoot up a little bit. I expect them to be pretty close to equal.
I think they will be once all decisions are made and all final optimizations are made.
What if you guys think about the brief experimentation with the Shadow Priest for team list vote?
So I was listening to comms a little bit whenever they brought that Shadow Priest in.
They were hoping that it was gonna do decent damage to the shield over the warrior.
Just the P1 intermission shield. Additionally, you have that lust and whatnot.
It seemed like it was a lot worse than they necessarily anticipated. Or maybe Rivens was having...
Like there was a bit of a combination of Rivens was having a hard time with his movement on the boss.
I felt like the even if you have a class that in theory is going to do better than a warrior
It's gonna be very hard to beat the uptime of the warrior as a ranged caster
Yeah intermission and then the warrior was a lot better during the ad phases right we're just like all right well
We don't even know I think they legitimately left off on we don't even know shadow priest is necessarily good or bad here
Well, I think the Warriors the safer play it doesn't seem playable. It just seems too difficult
It didn't seem bad, right? Like they were playing around with it because it, in theory, looks good.
And the PI was nice, and there was like some added value of that Shadow Priest, but it wasn't required.
And it wasn't the best, I don't think it was the best option that they had, possibly.
So looking back at that comp that they're running, it looks like Echo is favoring double lock over double DK.
Interesting.
I think that's the only difference.
DK's kind of nice on this fight because you press death's advance and you don't do anything.
Yeah, DK's give you characters that are standing in the melee area of the boss without having to, like, during the grips, right?
And so you're kind of filling up less room in the ranged area where all the immobile players also have to go and stand.
Yeah, because you can DA it and you can AMS it, right?
I think you can, yeah, but also death's advance is just up enough, especially with this many timespirals.
time-spiral for the the DK's as well and they just turn. Oh nice we get the
reds here. Okay here we go. So first animation starting 20 alive.
So did battle res remain? Normally they start off a little bit slow on the
shield and they start off a little bit behind that red marker that you see on
firedups right here which is that that's gonna be when that third grip
comes out right that they need to beat. Yeah but this but this is
completely normal and now you see them accelerating past that red marker
that we need to we need to beat. I think it's just like one of the things
that people start applying you know their dots and their butts or
or whatever else to the boss.
Yeah, we also have to deal with that first grip.
We'll probably see this slow down a little bit
as everybody now has a couple of movement global.
They need to dodge this next grip.
And now once again, they're able to sort of plant.
There was a long damage.
There was a long time where people were talking
about getting externaled here as well
because there's actually a decent amount of damage
that's going out.
And I think that players were struggling
to be able to just like optimize their movement
in like, you know, they were getting stuck
in like the webs or whatever else.
And so I think that days are starting stacking
Suri for example.
So let's talk a bit about this particular mechanic.
This is new to mythic, these portals that add the debuffs.
Portals are wild.
This is, it's a nasty amount of damage to the raid group
whenever those get dispelled.
But obviously that's better than not going through the portals
and one-shotting the raid.
It's just a lot of extra instances
of one-shottable damage that can stack with things
like the pullin' that happens constantly in this phase.
There's also the portal that you have to jump
between platform to platform and you have to,
like basically you carry a debuff across
and then you like stabilize the portal.
Just like that. Big burst of damage when that gets dispelled.
We're still alive though, have to be topped up for the pull.
Yeah.
There's a new gate going out.
He's to blink into the gate, just barely got there at the same time.
And now he has to deal with his debuff, plus the pull in as well,
but they actually cancelled it by killing the ad.
Oh yeah.
It's huge.
And we actually have a ton of time left on the cast too.
Yeah.
Maybe it's 20 of a time. 25 seconds.
We love to slow one, fired up, getting dispelled.
Live!
Oh!
Oh no!
It goes away!
Got to another PV. Hold on, we gotta see what's going on.
Scott, Scott here on the Spearger.
Scott has been getting pulled off this fight.
Like more often than I think you would like I bear drew it is actually very difficult to live on this fight
Especially compared to brewmaster monk and it looks like the shield four seconds left on that shield great
It's okay. Okay, I'm broken two shields through can we live the Poland? That's a whoa
Okay, I just had to kill the sad. There's a couple of ads left
Yeah, they've got to get these as well
We can we can portal over some reinforcements maybe but alas
I don't think that's gonna work out. This is gonna end up being another wife. They're big smile on Scott space
as their often is what a silly phase yeah what a goofy guy tough your scott's
paying to me almost 50 times in the race to world first discord so far did you
notice that message that we did I have noticed it yeah okay I think he's just
trying to make sure he's paying you to make sure that like before he sends you
a DM it's like okay I see so he's just checking he's just checking to make sure
it's just polite that is it is very polite it's polite to paying somebody
It's important to respond correctly, yeah, none taken right. I have responded with that many times
I understand the customs of the of the Europeans and that the Brits that we have here. Hmm. I
Was a strange people. They're very polite British people. Well, well known for being some of the most polite people in the world
Oh, yeah
Extremely positive personalities to
Meanwhile, Scott's cotank yips here also looking locked in also very polite
absolutely one of the one of the nice people around actually they're from
Canada yeah it's kind of a national passive I think of the Canadians plus
one positivity yes plus two charisma those two charisma absolutely so can
somebody explain me why we're fighting in Saruk she accepted power from zealots
yeah it's a very similar story like Alessand and Azhara you know okay our
from a dark twisted evil source that she is using to benefit herself and her
empire the ratio between those two you know we and she would disagree on as
well you can tell during phase three when though she sort of gives into this
paranoia that everybody's portrayed her and she needs to completely remake
the whole empire right I see but we can't let her do that yeah we can't of
their resistance. Yeah, they're a lot of chill Neurubians that we're trying to help out here,
help with their rebellion. Are we bad people on this one? No. We're the good guys. Okay.
Yeah. I feel like sometimes we've been the bad people. I felt like that Queen of Charlotte
one. No. I thought we were bad people on that one. No, we were good. Well, she was
just trying to protect her fish people. Yeah. Yeah, but their fish people. And Sire
Denathrus was just in his house. Their fish people had so much. At most raids involve
us going into somebody's house and killing them. I feel like that's pretty bad form,
It is kind of messed up. Yeah, it's their fault for holding all the perps. That's true
Oh words. I need those for my guy. I need that for my build
Yes
Oh word that makes sense. It's their fault for putting them in between us and them
They couldn't just let go straight straight to them, but they made us kill all their minions first
It's kind of messed up when you think about it. I felt like they were just kind of partying hanging out in the house
Like the council blood they were just dancing
Instead of dancing we just kill them.
Kind of weird.
Well the important thing is to win.
Because when you win, you get to rest in history.
I just glance and chat and somebody goes, I don't think Tettles is capable of spoiling
the lore.
Great news, no I'm not.
Terrific news, it's not happening but for me.
Should I do the main story?
I don't know, I heard good things about it but I don't know anything about it.
I'm saving it. I've skipped the cutscene every time on these lower difficulties. I'm going to watch it when we kill it on Mythic. That's my plan.
Oh, okay. Maybe there's a secret extra cutscene.
There might be. The last time there was lore-relevant stuff in Mythic was Gul'dan with Illidan dropping out of the crystal. That was...
I still don't know what he was doing there.
I mean it was kind of lore-relevant because obviously he drops out of the crystal either way, but it was sort of like you fought a shadow of him on Mythic.
Yeah, was that real? Was that fake? It was like a... I don't know, some kind of... some shade thing.
Was that Gul'dan trying to like steal his powers?
Yeah.
Wasn't that the bit?
that's what gold and was up to i think
you're a cool mark
does it carry on the skull time i know what's going on with that the other
sometimes it's just cool to have a skull
it's a demonology warlocks usually use that skull of bennari is their off-hand
mark
full-timer
let's go
one again
I think I'm pretty good with the non-chain pull strat on this fight, just continuing to, you know, discuss more strategies, especially after very good pulls.
Obviously, I don't think there's much to discuss if you like wipe 25 seconds in the fight or something like that, but whenever there's, I think, serious stuff to be talked about, I think it's better to, you know, take the time to be able to discuss it.
Yeah, I would say that Liquid do have, especially Max, has an instinct towards pull again that he's been trying to correct, I think, and, you know, spend as much time talking about it.
spend as much time talking about things as they need to and I think they have struck a good balance
of like understanding when it's appropriate to just keep pulling versus when they should
have a little bit more of a discussion of things. Analysts also stepping in and having
like you know they're watching other POVs as well. Max is only capable of watching one
POV at once so being like the analysts being able to watch other POVs and you know offer up
other advice or maybe some difference in strategy that that could improve
consistency on a boss like that is also very valuable that's actually a good
question I want to ask max about that when we have him at the end of the
segment here see what his thoughts are on the way that they're pulling this
yeah the tempo of the polls that is a good question keep that one in the
back pocket keep that one dog yet if I ask it first all right yeah what are
the other good questions oh yeah chat any questions you guys want for max when
we have them on the hot seat later you do the interviewing people's hard
It is like really good questions. Dude. I was watching I was watching yesterday when dash was on I was like
Oh, yeah, there's what somebody's good at this actually looks like I was like man. I need to learn that. Yeah, he sports host of the year versus
Trattie, yeah
Do wow gamers from their parents basements?
Versus Trattie coughing baby versus hydrogen bomb
Pretty good phase so far. This isn't the part of the fight that they've no issues with right?
Well, there have been some air and wipes typically to mistimed, the mistimed
froth is still a problem, but I don't think it's necessarily a solvable problem
because just one second wiggle room is not a lot. That's easy to mess up in either direction.
Well, it's a lot harder at a time when you have this giant wave coming at you, and you feel a little...
I think that the biggest hack is that the the first break can always be earlier than you think because you get a lot of airtime.
Yeah, here we go. Yeah, here we go overlap here the the dodge into knock
Yep, and three and then up plenty of time for four
Yeah, they've actually so we were talking about this a little bit
They've changed their stride on this four set compared to what we saw pre dinner pre dinner
They had a pretty cool line from the boss outwards. They've changed it to two sets of two
So they can pretty much instant pop then pop after one second on the melee
And then the two range groups have tons of time to get their two pops afterwards
I keep the damage check so near one of the one of the important things that you
can watch as well on the middle of fired up see why as you can see that that bar
that bar is actually notating the amount of HP that's left remaining on the
shield relative to the cast time that they need to be beating and so they're
pretty far ahead of that check they do have two people go down one of them
being Nick the other one being impact I suspect that this might be a jump-off
angle in theory we can res Nick and play down impact but it's not great
To be playing down and trying to 19 man this next intermission. This was not it. Okay. Well exhale dies. I
Think it might
They're gonna play it just because we're three minutes into the fight. We're gonna lost it
Yeah, we're gonna lost it to have a lust available. I mean, I think with the lust you can still make this work
There have to be no more deaths. I think yeah, fired up his dad
Okay, this is this is now the brutal as you would say this is not shocking. I mean fucking comfort. You still got lust
Fire up is one of the swaps the the blink swap on this side if you do get that to spell under the portal
I think it's pretty good all three of those people are on the same side though. Oh
We can fix that
We just send two people through the portal instead. I don't think it works that way
That's it. I think you can
I mean it's bad because you're you're losing time in the phase, but also adding a debuff to the fight
Yeah, I mean it's look it's not great
But you could fix that.
Trenus isn't arguing, but it's like optimal.
I'm just saying, if that was the only problem you wanted to fix, you could do it.
You're not wrong.
That's- I mean, it's true.
Unfortunately, they're not going to be able to make any meaningful brag here at all.
133 pulls.
63% still.
This reminds me of Fireack.
You guys remember Fireack where it was like...
Mm-hmm.
The phase one?
Pretty free.
Start of phase two, nuclear. We can do it. First set of ads at P2.
That was like minus 80 poles. Impossible until damage or until an HP nerf to those.
Yeah, they did get through it a few times, but it only became consistent after those mid-race nerfs came in.
So also something that you might notice is that we haven't necessarily had a new best pull in a little bit.
Note that percentage is not exactly what is indicating a best pull from this perspective for a little bit.
We're looking at those intermissions after the boss has shielded itself for 700 million HP.
The boss HP is going to be between 65 and 63% for the remainder of trying to prog this intermission going into the final phase.
So don't really worry about the boss HP in terms of like prog.
Right. Think about like what is our best pull of getting to watch platform or like maybe what the ads are percentage wise and from that perspective
We've broken the shield ads
Three times and so they we haven't really made it to the last platform with anybody alive
And so that's about the product spot that we're in
Yeah, I wonder also if at some point in order to make some sort of theoretical damage check
They might even have to damage the chip the boss a little bit after that yeah
shield as well because there's a little bit of milk time there too.
You get a little bit of milk time, about half a percent has been the most I've seen them take off of that boss during that time.
It's just not great.
I wouldn't be surprised if that ends up being like a full percent on the kill that they need to get off of the boss after the shield gets broken and before you kind of split to your sides.
Because right now they're sort of prioritizing heading to their sides and starting damage on the phase 2 add.
But if they instead prioritize, in particular if you prioritize some big damage globals, right?
If you could hold Mad Queen's mandates, for instance, for that milk, that would be big
for 2-HP boss damage.
What I will say though is, starting on those adds a little bit earlier, while it does lower
the amount of boss damage that you're able to do, it can lower the amount of raid damage.
And I think that they're beating one of the portal jumps that they have to do by
over-killing those adds in one way or the other.
But maybe they'll be able to do both as they get more comfortable with the fight.
It's one of the situations that just pulling the boss more makes you more comfortable with the encounter
and that increases your damage by a ton. I think that anybody who's progged at a serious mythic level runs into that where
how much damage you're doing on pull one is not even close. Your order's a magnitude higher damage-wise on pull 150.
100%, yeah. And we've already seen, whenever a side has the ultimate of their players alive,
The check on that shield isn't necessarily that difficult. They can get that down no problem.
The problem is, can we beat a potential third rest on that platform? Can we beat a second portal on that platform?
Anything that you can do to prevent damage coming in is extremely important, just keeping the rate healthy.
fellas, we're 134 pulls into this fight.
What are we amending our pull counts to, if anything? Or are you guys feeling comfortable with the prediction you guys made?
What was yours initially?
255.
I'm a 250 and I'm not I'm not too worried about it. Just yeah, I mean 25 if the third phase is
The normal difficulty of a final phase like sort of in between Razagith
Sarkarath Frack, it shouldn't be that bad the biggest problem is just gonna be consistency of phase one and phase two
I feel like
We'll have to see obviously we don't know anything about that phase just yet a lot of theories going around about it
Could it be just you know heroic amped up to mythic difficulty is there gonna be an extra mechanic?
Are they going to add something in for Mythic, or is it the potential for that phase to be really easy?
But they actually just add a Mythic only phase afterwards. I think all of those are
Possible, although the rag only phase is probably pretty unlikely. Nice deep breath by Nick also to get broken out of his roots.
I should have shot that out. I think it is not going to be a Mythic phase, but you know
It would be cool if there is. I'm holding up hope. I think there's a chance
It's like a mechanic that involves the portal more than is a phase. Yeah
I think I think that is probably a little bit more accurate or more likely to be accurate
They pulled out some crazy non mythic phase mechanics before yeah, we're sired to Matthews for the first. Oh, yeah
That wasn't in the middle phase basically was oh my god. No, they uh
In the mirror of the mirror. Yeah, it was it wasn't the horsemen the horsemen were on other difficulties to you
Yeah, that was insane. It was a crazy mechanic. You had to go up and down in the last days. That was yeah
That was actually so cool as well because all the the grips were inverted for the people in the mirror dimension
It was such a cool twist. I mean it was like ominous, but it was mentioned in the dungeon room, right?
It was like something like the mirror what the mirror might hold in the last phase only Janathrius knows or something that's something weird
It was cool. It's like really cryptic
Looks like Sarah's going down. Look at that. They don't have a braze. No, it's not great
Especially with the dispel requirement of this fight. You do have THD
currently operating the warlock on yeah this is a this is probably brick to this
point yeah a lot of people dying and they will all be running into the boss
they're a shame a shame once again very hard to see some progress on this fight
we basically are at a point where we can't see anything useful without almost
everybody alive into that second phase and pass that first platform and
And through most of the second platform really I think this is okay though
I mean it is it maybe a little bit worse than I had hoped in terms of their prog maybe
But that might just be an expectation thing, right?
Maybe my expectations were just too high for what I assumed that they were going to be able to see because I kind of
Assume that we were at least gonna have some p3 pulls
But I mean this this phase one might just be in this phase one intermission might just be so
difficult with the the amount of incoming damage
across the entire raid, then it makes this fight just hard.
That's all I think it is. I think this fight is just actually really really hard and not necessarily just any particular part of it
But once that first intermission starts or rather it starts with it with the quadruple froth from that point
That is a cool mechanic by the way
Never stops being hard quadruple froth into
Intermission phase having to burn the shield having to be bright third rest and your dodging waves
While that big hit of the four stack from the the froth toxin comes in very sketchy part of that and yeah
And there's it doesn't let up in phase two the portal officer disgusting. So it's just very difficult
Everything is on a knife's edge
It's very similar like Kavisa and like you know one thing goes wrong could just instantly kill a player and all things completely out of
Wackville not much gear also to be had
Maybe there's some other upgrades they can do with like additional Crespa that seems pretty unlikely
So basically it's just gonna be like an execution check up until the end of the race effectively I
would be
Shocked if there were any upgrades left on the table for them
There might be some press that people can get from mythic the problem is that any upgrades that would accomplish much for them
They've already gone and gotten right like those were the upgrade. Yes, this prioritized
So we're talking about scraping the bottom of the barrel
We're talking maybe a couple of people have three animals that they use on one piece of right that kind of stuff
You could farm some keys for some turts or some sockets or something
But we're basically we're basically talking. There's no major upgrades of it. Right. I see. Yeah
Also got the vanses vanses from Duff on this bus as well. Yeah, it is nice to move the vanses room here
Versatility very good vanses rooms were buffed last week as well to be
1900 verse about 2.4% which is in line roughly with freeways expansions actually
still slightly less than a few recent expansions but before that they were a
lot worse they were like 1.2% percent. Why were they so bad? I don't know. Is it just an oversight maybe?
There's some weird enchants and stuff as well that seems to be kind of like
lower scale in between expansions. Dude embellishments were also just complete.
Oh dude embellishments suck. Everything seems like it's so low budget.
Gems are a little budget. Yeah, it's all gems as well. Yeah, it's all maybe we'll be getting some better gems and enchants and future patches
This expansion epic gems. Yeah that we got that in some previous expansions where you do kind of ramp those things up
Funnily enough dude embellishments a lot of them don't scale with item level. Yeah, and there was actually
for a lot of embellishments they the
the difference between the
Three or the 639 versus the 636 item level piece for some embellishments the 639 is just straight out of better than an embellishment
And a 639 without embellishment right? Yeah 636 with yeah, which is which is crazy. Yeah, how does it even happen? It is
somewhat weird yeah, the embellishment a lot of embellishments are just like
Point two percent damage gain or something silly. Yeah, what is this?
Which like I just I just don't see the point of them in that case like why don't we just make it unique?
You can only have one and then make them actually do some cool stuff. You mean to tell me that I'm spending a hundred thousand gold for point
Two percent damage exactly
Why am I actually spending that if they don't want them to be big damage increases just give them interesting like yeah
Give them some cool utility stuff or something. Oh my god, but I spoke look give me some work. Look back. Oh god
I miss her god. That was so OP. That was so sick. Okay. Yes work. Look was broken. That was really really really
That's why it was cool is that it was broken. Okay. We made it to the intermission
experience that yeah we are going to now experience some more
damn I was looking like a pretty good bull up until the start of the
intermission there but we did lose some players
interesting question they shot
would five-feel make the shield break impossible
I don't think it would just five-feeling actually solve anything that's
happening I also don't think it would okay yeah I don't think I changed
anything very few of these deaths have felt like roddy deaths whenever you
have breads of ochres in your raid core you don't have people dying to
avoidable damage, or unavoidable damage generally. Most of these have been avoidable damage related
deaths or press of defensive moments. I think that's totally valid. That answer is pretty
reasonable. It's one of those things too that very infrequently do race world first
guilds like try to overheal something just to see prog as well because having to reprog
it after the fact with a different composition is generally like really bad especially for
that one player who has to come in and doesn't have a bunch of reps on the boss.
Yeah, we see that often where, you know, if you think there's a Comptop that might be
good, but you have a player with zero pulls versus everybody else at 150, it's very tough
to have that ever be worth.
It's like whenever Rivens came in, there was a question, like people were looking at
his damage, and then-
It's hard to know like how much of this is the difference between early pulls versus
the spec.
Max literally just forbid him goes, how many pulls until you start doing damage?
Well, it's not like, but it wasn't even like, yeah, it wasn't even like a sense of like flaming and it was like, how many pulls until we know how much damage you're gonna be doing?
Right.
Yeah.
What do you guys think of the, uh, the Dev versus Og question on this encounter?
Tettles is a bit of a lizard player yourself recently.
We're not seeing much Og this year. We're seeing a lot of Dev.
I think Dev is just, just good.
Very good.
The shields are nice as well. Unravel against the shield and then intermission and the shielded adds.
I think AUG is particularly bad even and I think funnily enough AUG scales better than DEV with gear
So as you get more gear the the AUG evoker then we'll start to
You know at least SIM substantially substantially higher in terms of like the potential output compared to DEV but
It's one of the situations that I think that DEV is especially
You know, I think that DEV is one of the top few DPS in the game
not mistaken even echo is soft to dev on this fight and they've been playing yeah echo
we're more on the odd trade right mm-hmm all good both are good I think it's one as one of the
situations where neither of them are necessarily bad dev is just slightly better and so do
people people have this this preconceived notion that dev was getting boxed out of the meta
because aug was too good and you know I mean that's just kind of true but the only thing
that's actually keeping Dev out of the meta was just Dev more than being bad
or anything. Well, there were a couple of changes, there were a lot of changes
going into War Within that have sort of leveled the utility playing field between
Dev and Aug. Black attunement got massively nerfed. That thing is bad now. Yeah, it
basically became a non-issue, but that was something that Aug had that Dev
didn't, right? And now that's gone. Spatial Paradox was moved from Aug to a
choice note on the Evoker class tree as well, so that's now also no longer
a benefit to playing an Aug evoker, right? That's just a cool button. Yeah,
Exactly, so those sorts of effects I think if you reverted those changes you'd see auger vokers on this fight
Yeah, but I mean we saw auger vokers on
Yeah, we've seen a decent amount of augers, I'm just saying that like those changes make it so you're choosing rather than always playing aug
Which is cool. Yeah, I think that auger rate has so many problems to you. It's just yeah
I mean we've seen a lot of them this year
We've seen a lot of augmentation evokers already this year, so I don't think that's in a bad place or anything
Yeah, I think it's pretty obnoxious to play
Yeah, I agree with you that the the fun of playing it in a if you're trying to min max it in raid is a lot less fun
Than trying to min max it in m plus
I think if you're playing it in a more chill fashion it can be really fun in raid as well
I I have a lot of fun playing in a mythic plus personally, but that's it. It's very very different
Just as like how you're playing the spec
All right. Here we go. The four set comes out and bring somebody out help
Help them!
They are in trouble I fear.
This is going to be a lot of work.
Thud. So I think what happened to Thud there is you need to have, you need to soul burn circle before you get rooted, right?
Yes, you cannot go.
They're okay actually, surprisingly.
The BRSTHD.
Look at that blue bar on the screen.
That blue bar is indicating the HP of the shield or the value of the shield relative to the timer that they need to be
Which is indicated by that red bar and they start off normally pretty slow
And then they really just ramp up the speed you can see chunk like large chunks being taken out that that
700 million health shield here as all those players have started to ramp up their damage more days
Or I think you might have just gotten slightly too close to the boss
one of that rest cast resolve to get dragged in and killed off.
That's tough.
Not a lot of space for everybody to spread in.
We need more deaths advances, I think.
Deaths advances very, very, very good.
They do have access to a third, if they want one, right?
They geared one up, I believe, a little bit, this reset.
SMAC has a DK.
Yeah, I guess that's the problem is that it's...
Well, but SMAC's not in on his work.
Yeah.
They were shopping around the idea of bringing SMAC in on the DK.
There was a question as to what level the DK was.
I don't remember exactly what the answer was.
Looks like we're gonna get a little bit of progress here or potential progress here
Just one player down on one of the sides is gonna be a little difficult for them to hit their damage check
But I'll be lusting soon see how it goes. Yeah, we're gonna get the last year. There is sure
Ah, we get them get the picture in picture here the split screen for the other side as well portals going out
Here's gonna be an extra debuff that used to get dispelled by both players
You know to see the next gate is coming out. You have these explosions are nasty the AOE damage from the dispels
plus the rest casts going off.
It's going to be a huge test for the healers
to get more and more consistent with.
Oh, wow.
What does it start with?
You lose space on these platforms
every time the rest goes out.
Those webs still go on the ground.
20 seconds.
20 seconds is plenty of time
if they have the two-minute cooldowns coming up here.
This is also a big burst potential for our King Mage.
If they've got those spread out on both sides,
I don't think they do, actually.
10 seconds.
Looks like they're bursting the hell out of this shield.
Yeah, the shield is not shared between the two sides,
so they do have to get killed on both sides.
Looks like Atlas and now you're on the same side now, I think.
Yeah, the fire upside wiped.
Oh.
Oh, no.
It's over.
Tragedy before.
I didn't see us once more.
Me?
Something blew up on the fire upside,
but I didn't see exactly what it was.
I didn't just spin a debuff.
I think it's the portal explodes.
I think it only wiped one side at this point as well.
So it may have been a portal explosion.
I suspect that it was a portal explosion,
but it's.
It could have been a double debuff dispel or something, yeah.
Yeah, I think that's a great indicator
about how the DPS check really isn't the issue here.
Right.
They just cleared their side with plenty of time to spare.
Yeah.
One DPS down the entire phase.
Well, they lost it, but...
Well, they lost it, sure.
But if they want to see progress into phase three, they can do that every pull.
It's a matter of keeping people alive.
There's so much burst damage going out in that phase,
and there's overlaps of burst damage.
The spell plus the rest going off at the same time can just one-shot you.
I don't mind wipes like that.
I think that wipes like that are totally acceptable.
It does make me question a little bit, are we, when do we stop thinking that phase one wipes are acceptable?
Probably at that point.
Probably tomorrow?
Like, I think, what do you mean acceptable?
Like, when do P1 wipes start to become like, alright, we have to, we need to be stopping?
I think we passed that point a while ago, actually.
Oh, okay, you think that, yeah.
Yeah, we're well past that point.
Okay, so you think that this has been...
Double pops are banned, for sure.
Yeah, okay.
Even the phase 1 to first intermission transition, I think, needs to, like,
I mean, obviously it's gonna happen, but we are past the point where we're learning anything on a pole where that does happen.
So it is catastrophic each time it does happen.
Yeah. So every single time it happens, it's just like, alright.
Yeah, I mean, there are sometimes where it's like, okay, we're 90% done bragging a phase and we just need to keep, we need to learn a little bit more.
And I don't think phase 1, like, I think phase 1 is just,
Unless they can think of a strategic adjustment to make which they should absolutely talk about any ideas they have I
Think they just needs to yeah, I mean it needs to not happen anymore
The phase needs to become as consistent as possible
But you know, it's easy to say that the phase is very hard to play
I think it's maybe not realistic to ever expect it to get to a hundred percent
Yeah
But if it can't get more consistent than this we are gonna be in for a lot of polls on this boss because it is
It's so hard to build up momentum progressing a phase if half of your poles wipe in the first
phase.
It's not impossible, but it's a lot slower.
Yeah, it's one of the things that you need to be able to chain, see the new prog.
You know, four out of every five poles you're seeing, like that phase that you're trying
to progress, that's really going to help you increase your tempo in the fight and
learn all of those new overlaps like Dratnis was suggesting.
And I think it's something that is important.
Starting to get a little bit late here, it is, yeah.
Kind of question how much longer they're going to be going.
So it's 11.20, their start time today was 9am, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, so...
That was expected to be a good night.
Yeah, I think midnight is probably the planned end time.
I wouldn't be shocked if they called it a little bit before then.
I also wouldn't be shocked if they string together some good poles,
if they keep going until that stops being true.
I believe in that.
You typically want to like continue to chain your momentum,
especially whenever vibes are good.
Yeah. And the vibes, I think even if they stopped a little bit early tonight, the vibes wouldn't be bad.
It may be just more case of like, okay, our time is more valuable.
Like, we're going to sleep the same total number of hours either way.
So let's just do that now and then wake up rested, right?
I think tomorrow is a very pivotal day for this world first.
I think there's a good chance as well.
You maybe even want to budget an extra hour today and plan to hit the gas tomorrow.
Because I'm not sure, but I think there's a chance that tomorrow is the last day that
world first available.
So we were kind of talking about a little bit earlier.
I gave it like a 20% chance that the boss dies tomorrow.
Okay, I would go maybe slightly north of that, but not much.
Okay, yeah.
And then I think it's...
There's a lot of chance that it's dead on Friday.
Yeah, I think Friday is lock in day.
I think Friday is the last day world first is available.
Available for sure.
Well, there's a chance that the last phase is nuclear and Saturday.
Right.
There's a chance that there's the secret phase after that as well,
and we are here until November.
Oh, so yeah, they got to rebook our flights again.
Yeah, they've already rebooked them once, so it wouldn't be hard to do that again.
Guys, you weren't with us in Boston?
No.
They rebooked our fights four times in Boston.
In Germany that tier, they just kind of gave up and were like, yeah, we'll book them again
whenever this is done.
Yeah, whenever they had to rebook them, we were still on Holandrus.
Yeah.
That was a bit of a rude awakening, huh?
Judd aside, we're a derby for a very long time.
Yeah.
My mom texted me at the middle of the race, and she goes, do you know when
you're coming?
home yeah and I go no it might be a couple more weeks even she was what do you
mean remember they were asking us because they were like how much longer do
you think this raid will go and who was like homey we're on the seventh boss
there's there's four more left a titan forge a lot longer at least a week
speaking of a laundress I've heard of there's a really popular copypasta that
As you can kill off Queen Ancerrex, her ginormous abdomen explodes and laundress pops out.
Secret face.
That's it.
No, that's true.
That's how spiders operate is they often, you know, if you see one with a, they often
have like, you know, 30 babies in them that are waiting to like jump out, right?
That's a good point.
What if after we kill Queen Ancerrex, she splits into 30 mini Queen Ancerrex?
I was thinking you unlock a mini raid.
Oh, that could be fun.
Three boss mini raid.
Ancerrex layer.
Okay, oh good cook mythic only mini raid my god jump scare mini raid. Yeah
Love that. Oh, that would be insane
It would be really funny if iraq nephobia mode for Queen Antrack was just the Hollander's model
That would have gone so hard. Oh my gosh
Okay, they would never do that because they have more respect for their job. Yeah, but that would be really funny get that
be a good bit but yeah I think that tomorrow is probably the most pivotal
day for the race just in total where every guild has to have a good day
tomorrow like if you if you have a bad to a medium bad day that is yeah tomorrow
will probably be the most important day to have a good day on yep I agree we do
see look going down into this first intermission it's gonna wait
potentially for that first grip to come out and then accept this battle rose
this is such a nasty overlap the five sec from the frost soaks into the
First rest is so much burst damage. He's back. Yep. That was the timing. I expected to accept that battle
Rez
They're gonna be fine to beat this damage check looking at Scott's bar right there
They're starting to kind of pull ahead of it. Yeah, we do see this timing slow down a little bit on this next grip
The gene viz will be used by fired up. This is not a great push and the thing
I'm not necessarily worried about is beating the rest
They should be able to beat that it's whether or not they'll have room on the platform left by the time
they get to that right because we're gonna see it start to cast for sure but uh
are we gonna have room at all when this goes this is gonna be the beating
this guy's perfect mission accomplished okay well two people are dead now not
mission accomplished mission failed tragedy yep yeah they ran out of room
the warriors and yeah it's time to do damage but they had to do damage to
beat the shield so that is tough so I think somebody's gonna end up having to
swap over to the well wait there's really a rink you right okay now THD
I think that this is a take a ball or jump off the edge angle I agree. Let's see looks like they're gonna keep this going
All right, let's see if we can maybe see some progression. We do have access to time warp the most powerful button in the game
Depending on it looks like they're even on the the sizes
Which is annoying for dispell but we can make it work we do have THD on destruction which is an imp dispell
True one of the nice benefits
big poppy going down, impact going down, all right, that's going to be a wipe.
Yeah.
This looks over.
I just don't think you can see the last platform under these circumstances, so I guess there's
some value in practicing this part, though, because there have been issues.
People still keep falling off the platform to the rest, so maybe it's worth continuing
at this point just for that reason, and then throwing away wipes that, or bulls where
deaths are early in P1 instead.
Yeah.
I agree.
So Scott popping that sempiting roar, heading up this bridge as fast as possible.
Little bit of his team is still alive and there are those acolytes descending from the ceiling.
Unfortunately a lot of stuff has gone wrong here and the cast from those shielded adds does finish.
So the acolytes, do they just add extra, does all they do add extra damage?
I think they have a kick that you need to cast.
Yeah, a cast that you need to kick.
The other way around, good point. There you go. It's late.
It is certainly late.
Yeah. Not that late though for me.
This is prime gamer hours for me.
Yeah, we gotta record a video after this.
Yeah, we do.
What are the topics?
Ah, that's a good question.
Echo's re-clear, probably.
That's good.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Queen Ansarek.
Obviously, you have to cover the progress.
Ansarek?
It's like Ansarek Phase 1, Phase 2.
Yeah.
What's the last one?
Warbands and why they're the greatest feature ever added to World of Warcraft.
Hero talents and why they're...
Okay.
I think your talents are pretty good.
I love wooly items.
I do love wooly items, although it's woo.
Dude, the amount of... Yeah, I love calling them wooly items.
Now, I was originally...
So, the way it works is I originally called them woo.
And then I saw in a Blizzard blue post that they were internally calling them wooey.
And I was like, okay, that's stupid, I'm never gonna do that.
But then I brought that up to my guild and they hated it more than I did.
So, I instantly became a fan of the term wooey to annoy them more than annoyed me.
Kind of a toxic personality trait of mine, I will admit, but I can't help it.
You can help it.
Okay, I could help it, but I choose not to.
Okay, anyways.
Did you see where you were on the alignment chart today?
I was on the good side, right?
Chaotic good.
Chaotic good.
Yeah.
That alignment chart was made by somebody who doesn't know me very well.
Where do you think you should have been?
Chaotic evil.
Yeah, that's me.
I was 100% thinking that you should go in Chaotic Evil.
Yeah.
One of my guildies there was saying that some of his friends, they see him in
my guide videos and they're like oh yeah these seem really useful and he was
thinking if only you knew how evil this person is. Good point. Alright we've got
another poll, a Bruin here. Although Scott is a Baron, it's Yipz that's a
Bruin on this fight. Yipz is actually taking all of the the tank
feasts as well or at least he was last time and Scott's taking all the
liquefies. It's kind of interesting. It's rare that you see a tank mechanic
like this that's kind of got two different parts of the combo and you can
actually just each take the same part every time.
That is kind of weird.
Yeah, it's cool though. This really lines up to Vroomaster's strength, having this
stagger for all this damage, and being able to heal yourself through Celestial
Brew is a big shield on yourself that works through that healing absorb.
Brew seemed quite good.
It's really good against this mechanic.
What are they? Are they Shadow Pan?
Yeah, they typically play Shadow Pan. You can actually play either on it,
but I think Yps has only been playing Shadow Pan.
Gotcha.
Has a lot of members of your guild swapped to Gnome yet?
Or the eyeball in it?
I think we will once we get to this fight,
but we haven't yet.
Okay.
There's no reason to until you get to this fight.
Yeah.
Having the extra damage from Mecha Gnome
or a few other ratios would be kind of nice.
Yeah.
Early progress, especially unlike Kavisa.
Gnome, or yeah, Gnome is kind of worthless
until you make air get on this fight, right?
Cause you can just, you press your racial
and you're out of your room.
That is, that is the advantage though.
Yeah.
That is very good.
PVPers I think have been using Gnome for forever
to be able to get out of root beam.
The escape artist is nice to that roared, but not useful for much else.
I've actually never seen gnome racial be useful for anything in PVE except for this.
Nope, me either.
Kinda interesting.
It wasn't useful in Tendril because whenever you dispelled yourself in Tendril, you would get a tree.
And that was not very good.
A happy little tree.
That burned you.
Yeah, it's a lot less punishing to just leave behind some webby ground for sure.
Yeah, especially because you're gonna leave that webby ground behind when you
kill the route anyway so it's not even a drawback really. Exactly. All right, this
news fest has ended. We are back to the hardest part of the fight at the start
of the next three minutes here, the quad froth into the intermission. Now of
course the big crux here is the five stack that they're gaining from the
delayed weeks on the ground. It should only be a four stack, right? Or is it a five? It's a five stack. I'm quite sure of it. I think it's only five if somebody
messes something up right I don't know I can't see from that far it might be a
oops right he's dead it should be one for that explosion right into the rest
all right it's ridiculous that is why is we're okay that is why they invented
the battle res mm-hmm yep now a nice spread dodging these waves you're like
full-sending every defensive in immunity here as well yeah looking at fire
He's got he's gonna be pressing GI here and wrong defensive and he still you know drops to 50% HP
Yeah, great in this and then dropping to 50% HP is definitely something that is very sketchy
They should be able to do this without too much difficulty
The problem is these later stacks of that poison are also slowing them by so much and a massive dot
Whoo, they made it. All right. Here we go. What are you live zero battle reses though
Oh, but we do have a lust so don't fall off the platform. That's that's the main goal here
We've actually had a lot of like one-off deaths to the rests gripping players off the platform
So we definitely need to be able to keep people alive in that regard
It looks like Johnny dropped incredibly low, but able to keep himself topped up there
You would have definitely been executed by Nexus princess, but
Fortunately enough that mechanic only exists on that boss. She already did. She's she's well gone
We blew her cover. Well, five turns out. She was also trying to kill Queen answer
So I don't know why we didn't let her try first as she was strong in the Queen answer right there
Yeah, maybe
That execute mechanic would be really nice to have on our side here as well
Malarkas is so low trying to do everything again to keep the group top tier to spell go does so much damage
But they've got some tops still here
Atlas now joins the team on the side
Okay, and we're heading up now to the second platform. Oh Jesus dad. That's okay. This is okay though
One down, we should still be fine.
We have Bloodlust available to activate here.
Oh no, we haven't. We've used it.
It's been pressed. It's been sending Lust.
Here we go. 13 seconds.
Ten, sir.
Grr.
Somebody has just fallen off.
Scott has fallen off.
That is not good.
Actually, you know what?
This side is not that bad.
There's not a tank hat on Scott's side, right?
Or is there? No, it looks like maybe there was a...
Oh no, yeah, there's not.
The tank hat is on the other side.
Both shield odds are dead,
so we can at least see the next platform.
Yeah, we got it. This could be it. This could be some some Prague even with the tank dead.
Looks like the beer eyes actually did land on Scott as well.
Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!
Oh! Whoa! Maybe over the other side.
Okay.
Could somebody else's video still live? Hold on.
Yep, something. Yeah, good to see you. Yeah, perfect, perfect.
Okay, okay.
Okay. So we're down to four players.
Look at the cast bar here.
He's got that portal.
Is that the cast?
Acidic apocalypse.
Apocalypse.
So we got 22 seconds on the enrage of this phase.
You have to kill this add off and get to the top before that cast ends.
We're doing it.
We might actually get it.
We might actually get it.
We're doing it.
We're doing it.
We're doing it.
We're doing it.
Okay.
Okay.
Let's see what phase 3 of Mythic Queen Ansharak looks like.
Here comes that knockback.
And here it is.
New cast bar, okay.
Communion.
Yep, 20 seconds of 3DVS on the bottom.
This is the same cast as on Heroic.
Yeah.
This is huge information.
Okay.
And a couple of skitters actually still were alive and snapped up to them.
That's not a mythic mechanic of this phase.
I think that's just those were still alive.
So what's the first cast here of Heroic?
So on Heroic, the first thing that happens is infest goes on the tank and swirly's go on your ranged.
Here she jumps out to the same position as on Heroic.
Okay.
And now she is attacking Yip's.
Ranges are going to get in position here just in case the same thing happens here.
There it is, infest.
Here's the infest on the tank that should spawn adds.
Now she's gorging the other tank that is also just like Heroic.
There's some adds.
Yeah, the adds are getting ringed of peace away.
Same number of adds as on the lower difficulty.
Oh no, actually a couple more hatchlings.
Yeah, it looks like this.
Six on the lower difficulty.
Yeah, it looks like there's like eight or ten maybe.
Okay, now she summons adds. This is different than on Heroic.
Oh, those come out fatter.
On Heroic, those are a long way away.
Web blades as well, earlier than they are in Heroic.
Now, these adds, these acolytes, do have the shield,
so they operate on the same rules as Heroic,
where they start at 60% health.
Now we have two portals coming out,
and those need to be activated.
Okay.
That was a good pull.
Interesting.
So we didn't see any new mechanic,
or really any mythic changes to Heroic mechanics there,
But we definitely know the cast sequence is different. Yep, the cast the cast sequence and the pacing is going to be different
That's it
That's pretty common for mythic fights to have like different pacing from her and that'd be the main challenge that you're gonna be
Facing is just you're gonna get different mechanics in a faster pace
That was augurs though that exactly the kind of pole that we need to be having here three minutes and 60
36 seconds as well and then the nice six six one percent
That's great. I mean, that's the first sign of Prague we've seen in probably about five hours
And that's going to be a huge motivator for them. Yeah, we can keep seeing poles like that
We can see a ton tonight
That is huge and they didn't even it wasn't even a clean end to be to not at all
No, the damage check is easy. Only one side people alive. And then they've rescot. Yep. All good
that is a
Very encouraging. P2, if we can get out of there, now if we can get through P2 with everybody alive, we can get to P3.
I don't know, I feel like we could see, like I'm not sure exactly what started causing the wipe in P3,
but I feel like a lot of what happened to them there would have been better just with 20 people alive.
I think it was like a combination. I think the hatchling maybe reached the boss, yeah.
I think the hatchling reached the boss is what it looked like.
They were just getting overrun by us.
Those adds had a lot of HP whenever you have half your raid alive.
Also, what we did see was the adds are going to come out and then the portal is going to come out.
Which means that they need those adds to be dead before the Nova that was probably about to come out.
Because on heroic at least, there's always a Nova after every portal, pretty soon after every portal.
So probably what was about to happen in the next five seconds or so after they wiped
was the boss jumping to the middle and casting that grip Nova combo.
That mechanic is also, for the record, my guess for the mechanic that looks different on Mythic in some way.
Do you think it's going to be like a push and a pull?
I wouldn't be surprised if the Nova goes into the middle
and then goes back out for me.
And so you have to hit the portal?
Yeah, you have to portal back in and back out.
That's an early guess on what that looks like,
but I'm going to be so cool if that's how it looks.
There's no reason that you would even guess that,
but it would be nice if you were right.
There's some dev at Blizzard that's so mad right now,
because it's exactly that.
And people are going to think I have inside information,
but I'm just that smart.
You literally have an NPC in the game.
Talking about Dartanos and the mob.
There's no way that's named after me, that's RNG.
There's 100% away that the name definitely-
I've got so many people DM me a picture of that mob.
That mob is you, I-
No shot.
I sometimes go back to the mob just to kill that mob.
I don't, I'm not surprised.
I sometimes go to just those,
any of the many Alchins spawn locations
like in Winter Spring.
Take down as many as I can.
All right.
Three's going down.
Yeah, are we just wiping this one with that there?
Nope, we're gonna keep the rest going.
I don't know if this is liqify positioning
to make sure they use as little room as possible
before the intermission.
I maybe would have considered wiping out.
Having a death 45 seconds into the boss
isn't great to have to commit your battle res on,
especially since the battle res are just so valuable.
You just don't want to kill your momentum, though.
You can have that sixth hole.
You want to keep playing.
That's a good point.
That is valid.
Now if they have another death,
then you reset it off, of course.
Yeah, we are really.
Even though it's 19-manable, we really don't want to.
Yeah.
So I feel like even the one death with the B-Razz early in this fight, I would have been tempted to jump it there.
It's one of those things too that later on as progression continues going,
they're going to be moving that lust into the last phase. That is 100% what's going to be happening.
They're not going to be wanting to send it on the intermission. Right now they're sending it on the intermission to try to continue to kind of see what's up with the last phase.
I suspect they'll...
I wonder if they're even going to continue to send that lust.
Yeah, there's a jump.
Here we go.
Now that they've seen the last phase, is there any incentive to actually send that luster on the intermission anymore?
Yeah, I think you still luster, well, either the intermission or P2, right?
Well, they're like break glass in case of emergency luster.
Yeah, I think you still need that.
Like I don't think the luster in P3 is all that important yet.
We haven't found any P3 mechanic.
I mean, okay, if you can save the luster P3 and use it to just make sure you can kill those ads, that would be good.
But the thing with the luster in P3 is like, I feel like you don't necessarily want to prog that P2 platform phase.
Like with the brush of a lust. Yeah, I mean I think you still do want to press it as soon as they're okay that are dead
Let's go into a replay. We have a replay of that. I've conjured up a replay. We can see here. Okay from this quick replay
Try just kind of walk us through what you were seeing that is actually different
So you call first off you called out the fact of the spiders spawn those fires that are dangling spawn a little bit sooner
You also see a few more hatchlings. Yeah, so first of all, let's just talk about what's the same
So these skitters aren't any new mythic thing. These just snapped up from the side platform. I believe now this aphotic communion cast is
Also identical to heroic the boss just stands there casting letting you beat her up for a little while
Then she jumps down to the side. This is the same location as heroic
We start off with an infest cast on the active tank and then soon afterwards a gorge cast which is gonna
Be a tank buster on the other tank. Yes, it's infest does not initial damage
which gives a defensive search very nice drops those ads near the boss those skitters do look faster
They are getting robbed away
And then the boss went on on gorging the tank and the main difference that I saw was that before the first portal
We saw a set of three ads of the acolytes spawning in the middle as well
Which they we didn't see those die
But there was there was 60% HP with the 60% HP with a 40% shield
They start spamming a cast and ramping damage on heroic each time they successfully cast and you need to break the shield before you
I kind of expect that's going to be about the same on mythic. There's no reason that that mechanic should be different
And then you need to kill them as well so that they drop their essence and you take it through the portal on heroic
Yeah, I suspect that will be true on mythic as well
But might have to have more people do that if there's two sets of ads before the first portal kind of comes out
Yeah, I think there is there's only so the one set of three ads before that first portal at least what we saw
But there could be more the essence is also what said destabilizes the portal and explodes it after five seconds, right?
Yes, which on heroic is never really a problem. You never really are waiting that long to take the portal anyways like everybody takes it within a few seconds of each other
Yeah, so that's one of those mechanics that doesn't really have a clear
Place in heroic. Maybe there's some way in mythic where it will matter though
Move it more
Unfortunately, we only saw one set of each mechanics
Yeah, we don't know much more and we didn't even see the Nova grip
mechanic as well like the when she goes to the middle of the room and starts
trying to grip everybody in and causes the nobody to happen again I think we
were probably about five seconds more away from that. And then there is a
question as to are there new mechanics in the last phase as well which
could or could not happen but we saw a lot of the core of the last phases
mechanics like pretty quickly. Guys I'm getting the biggest gold and lives
from this fight just from starting phase three. You think Elidan's coming back?
It's
You guys remember essentially what Golden was right? It was faster faster cadence of phase three mechanics
It was slightly improved difficulty of ads. So like I'm gonna be straight up
I can barely remember last phase of gold and I just remember the phase one phase
Phase three fifty percent to ten. Yeah, really just heroic amp double a bunch
Okay faster cadence overlaps were nasty more wins winds happen more often
Okay, and it was just kind of a DPS race to race to 10 where then he went to the middle of the room and channeled summoning
The soul of illiterate remember it was and these are peeing in the middle and you can battle with somebody for free
That was kind of cool and the main difficulty of it on mythic was just that there were so many overlaps that you never really got the
Chance to see on her out because things happen so slowly on right bird a myth
You could also meld the meld during that intermission to to get another damage pot. Oh, yeah
I remember that. Yep. That was back when back when potions looked a little different
But let's go back into how that replay was looking if we can get a little bit more time before the next bolt timer
Oh, that's not replay or we can do a little what I like to call production jabay-doh
Okay, nope here. We go right so we're back into that same point in the phase
So we had these skitterlings running into the boss. How much they should be those ads have
Unclear they were stunnable. It looks like they were affected by the rot
But they definitely looked like they were moving pretty quickly and then we have these
These acolytes, how much their shields?
How much health do those have?
So that looks like 37 million health.
37 million at 60%.
At a 60%, yeah.
So they have another shield of about 25 million.
Something like that.
It looks like 60, 40 roughly.
Yeah, okay.
Something in that range, a little,
and then, okay.
We're seeing the death here coming in as,
yeah, the gloom hatchlings reach the boss here
is how we wiped.
Yeah, yeah.
But then now we're getting the serrated webs
whatever they're called. This is the second set of webblades. We did have a very early
set of webblades in that phase, which I don't think you'd get on Heroic, right? Yeah, you
don't get them that early on Heroic for sure, and you definitely don't get those Acolytes,
but they are the same Acolytes as Heroic, it looks like, just obviously, with a lot
more health. Yep, so I already had weak ores, pretty... Yeah, I'm not surprised. I mean,
a lot of those will be Heroic weak ores as well that do continue to work. But I
mean, they're not hard-coded to the time where they're hard-coded. Yeah, based
Yeah, which is good. That means that they're useful already, like out of the box, which is nice.
Interesting.
Okay, so with that being said, I think it's a great time to actually take a little bit of a break and listen into some of the comms.
Hopefully we see another prog pull. That would be phenomenal.
So let's take a second to have a monster energy listen in.
I'm sure I can score.
Yay!
You win Honda.
Yay!
How do you like it now?
I think they fall.
You know I slow as fuck over there.
We seem really healthy.
Watching it back, we seem alive.
Healers on that second platform, we seem good.
Yeah, I mean we do, I think.
Watch the waves.
I mean on second rules, on other lines.
fucking deep as it is now
cool on you
well, that way, that way
fucking low roll bro
you pickle
blade the lines away
number of hops
and make space
one bottom line coming
dodge waves
lines
unequal fine tree
rock one, boom
make sure you get top
to make for the roots
watch tips of it here, I'm studying
and break the south
and now we're lodging the lines
Watch out Mark, he put a web on you.
If you haven't got a topsy-poop position for it.
I was on me too, man.
We're looking good right now, don't worry about it.
Make it work, man.
Doge lines, if it soaks, doge lines, if it soaks.
Can I do your pops here?
Okay, only four.
Yeah, very good.
Watch white waves, waves, waves, waves.
Big hit.
Hot.
Greetings sucked in like six seconds.
No bad webs here. No bad webs up in three two one now
I do think we can't use anything here, but we can GS anyone's fuck
Okay, we're getting stuck in six
Fucked in
three
two one now nice
Keep going
We are easy beating we do not get it by a wave and mainly just run away
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no web no webs no webs
good make sure we initial debuffs turn echo wash yourself if you're really low
okay as a bolt as well yeah he used packed my name is still here you're
vibing oh gonna be a pool rescue for a stupid
you're second yeah I thought it would be fair so it's gonna be fun and let's get
it one top here first socks are gonna be on the right side of the platform
I'm looking at where the ad spawned.
Fuckin' three, two, one on that side.
Okay, now on fired up side.
Here's your getting rest.
Okay, suck in three, two, now.
Watch the beam.
One more suck on the other side.
We should beat the third.
Do not get sucked off.
Nice.
Give Scott, he needs it.
Take the gate.
There he is.
There he is.
My side, big deal, ladies.
Just left, left, left, left, left.
side press personals yep is that beside press personals you guys are getting a
suck on the far side good getting something close side put it to the left
side looking at the middle
he kicks on the accolades
No!
No!
I didn't expect that rust.
Dude that was such a good poor holy fuck I was like an everyone alive p3 by the way
I didn't have an area was running
I don't know about you guys
Well, yeah, that's what I've been thinking the whole time I've been trying to call I've been trying to call sucks for certain platforms
but I
Think accolades
Yeah, that's our other side and me not vibing. Okay, I need I needs okay
Let me find a different PV then of someone who's always who's someone who's always not on the acolyte side
I mean the healers should always be on the same side safety
Who's on the non-aclytes? Is it Drani? Me and Drani, yeah. Okay. I'll just watch you
And I can call that then I think the rest there might have been the
that we canceled out the third rest.
British Airview canceled,
she'll recast it on the other side and like continue.
So I'm pretty sure that's why she did it earlier.
I just fucked me on my hand,
but it's, I can do it earlier.
Like pulled me back in the address.
I mean, guys, that was absolutely insane.
Why am I here myself twice?
If you're watching TV,
he has all of you looking out of his Indian.
What the fuck this was running a pro that shield that got what happened to it?
What did you guys do?
Not your platform are not you guys
Guys come on let's fucking do one more one more pull go to bed, but we can we can be in the last days of everyone alive men
but it would be so fucking good we like we ended up getting like P2 execution
I think is down like I think we can probably just really fucking like I
think we can I think we can move lost out of P2 by like maybe like 1 p.m. tomorrow
or something just after you get more information but we're fucking out and
my bad that was it. They shine the light from the marks. Let's take it.
Go see. Hey there. Possibly got caught off with a dragon. Dragon.
I remember a popstar. One buff on the incoming. There's waves. Into lines. Into liquid fire.
Die. Die. I'm ready to do one more pull. One more pull. Actually one more pull if we get to P2 with everyone alive.
and if we wipe in P1 you'll be punished by having to pull again.
Amra, I like that.
Oh shi-
Hell?
Oh shi-
Amen.
That's good.
Awk.
Yeah, we'll go all night.
Poppin' em?
Poppin' em?
I think that's actually what Maboppe.
I would die.
That's Maboppe.
I know, I know.
I know, I know.
That's a Steve Curry.
Alright, actually I'll give you this.
Everyone alive into the first intermission alone.
That's just that.
That's the last pull.
That's easy, that's fucking, that's easy.
And then we can die.
And then we can die.
And then they're going to just step right away.
Yeah, that's a, I really think we,
dude, that pull, we were,
someone who hasn't missed a portal.
Welcome back from that monster energy listening.
I feel like we were,
I feel like we were starting to learn a little bit.
They, you know, they had a really good P2 pull
where they were, you know,
jumping from those platforms to platforms.
They were still just trying to determine
how much damage they were needing
to allocate to the shields.
It sounds like we only have a few pulls left.
It sounds like they want to get one good phase two pull in
before kind of calling it for the night, which makes sense.
They need to continue to be consistent in phase one,
and I think that's one of those things that,
you know, getting all 20 players alive,
going into phase two, and then calling it there,
it makes sense.
And then a good one, and then a good pull.
Yeah.
And then done a lot, as they say.
Exactly.
But also if you're winning,
you can't go on a winning streak.
So when do you lose?
That's how you game until 5 a.m.
and that's the lifestyle.
Yeah.
We've all been there.
The lifestyle.
Yeah, all right.
These first two soaks, a little bit more
is red than they often are, but it's not a big deal.
It kind of doesn't matter too much where these first two
exactly are, although this specific bounce
required some fast movement from DHD's group.
All clear?
Yep, moving back the boss into position now
for the liquefied.
Yeah, the call is, we get to go to bed,
if and only if we make it to the first intermission
with all 20 players alive, a little bit of motivating
that Max is deploying on his Raiders.
Well, it is nearly midnight,
so it does make sense to get to bed sometime soon.
They've been gaming since nine.
They get to go to bed.
Max has to come talk to us for a little while.
We get to talk for a few minutes.
I'm only gonna ask one single question now.
I'm gonna let him off the hook.
Okay, what is that?
I wanna ask him the full cadence.
Yeah, the full cadence, that's a good question.
What about the full cadence specifically?
Just how they feel about it on this boss.
What are the thoughts behind it?
Yeah, the map strategy versus I never got a good question from chat otherwise
I want to ask about the chat up recent the comp and stuff, but okay chat you guys got any good questions for
Get max on make us look smart. Yeah. Yeah questions any
Burning questions you want to ask max? I know a lot of you have been typing in this chat hoping that it's your message
She's not looking so we are looking tell us what you want to ask
About his day smile
That's nice
Is this already the rebroadcaster still alive? I'm not sure that would be a good question for max because I
Wouldn't have too much to say about that. Oh, I think they might be asking us. Oh
We're live right as Chad is pre-recorded. Oh killed achievement earned by THD there classic battles
Oh, yeah some players die here
So I think they're gonna have to pull again gotta pull again unless it depends. There's a smile on Nick's face there
They may at some point
If the last pull is actually the last pull, even if it's a bad one, but is that this point yet?
Favorite chip flavor? Has he done his laundry?
He has people for that, I'm pretty sure.
He's got it like that.
I'm having trouble making gold. Do you think I should use Hayden Hawk's gold-making guy?
That's the blast from the past. That is a class. That is a timeless classic. Thanks for the chuckle.
That's a sensible chuckle.
Chain pulling again at another 15 makes sense again
basically
When they're ending is when they have one really really good p2 pull with all 20 players alive. They really want to try to
Get as much damage done into the boss possible
They want to make sure that they have all 20 players alive for those intermission skill to break through those shields as yeah
It's tough because like ideally we would love to see another 10 seconds of p3
But it requires more than just getting the intermission result 20 players alive for that to happen
Hopefully they get it on this pole so they can rest up for tomorrow.
We all suspect tomorrow is going to be a pivotal point in the race.
They really need to focus up, get some good progression, and get the good sleep for tomorrow.
I think that tomorrow is probably the most important day of the race.
Yeah, 100%.
Maybe you could ask Dennis, maybe you could ask him about that.
About what?
Like, does he feel like tomorrow is the most important day of the race?
Something maybe along those lines.
Okay.
I think I'd rather ask my cop question.
I think the cop question specifically talking about Rivens on the chat or Priest is also pretty good.
Someone chat asks...
What do you got?
Put some down.
Oh wow.
Priest's been cheating, he's been writing him down.
I just wrote him down because I don't forget.
Okay.
Somebody chat has a pretty good one of...
How do you feel about progression?
Is he happy with it?
Did he think there'd be more?
I feel like that's...
I mean we could ask that just like generically.
Yeah, there's a...
Here's a challenge whenever you're interviewing Max.
Max is that sometimes the...
Sometimes he'll answer a question like that in a way that's like, that reveals how silly you were to ask a question like that.
Yeah.
You know.
I personally would avoid asking that question.
Yeah.
I feel like he would just pitch you with the two words.
Yeah, progression was fine.
Yeah, alright.
It was good.
Good work.
No, I didn't feel like we got any more frog than I expected.
The less frog.
It is kind of hard to say.
It's hard to tell whether the, you know, speed of progression in P2, like we've seen a lot
of portal explosion wipes, but it's kind of hard to avoid that, I suspect.
I will, I, okay, I actually have another good question.
I can ask about the gnomes, too.
I'm going to ask them about, uh, how they decided who is crossing the portals when.
That's a great question.
Yeah.
Because right now, I think it's been like Atlas live.
Yeah.
Who's going to do this?
I think one thing that I really actually want to ask is, what they changed once
Once they saw that there were those two spiders on the second platform on one side and the tank
out on the other side and how much that sort of cascaded a change in their strap.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, all right.
This is good.
We could be doing some brainstorming.
But that's kind of cooking over there.
Yeah, I do like the idea of only sticking to one question so we can get to bed early,
but I've got a couple now that I've got to choose between.
Yeah, that's always tough.
Oh, days are dropping low.
We're in the day.
They're having another poll here.
They're putting a live?
Okay, 20 in the intermission.
I think this is last poll of the night.
They're about to explode in shortly here.
In the AMZs?
They still have battle risk.
Double AMZ comes out and then I think that Saria is getting like sacked is what I was hearing during their comments that they were trying to
They have to make sure that everybody has like a massive personal press right there on top of standing inside those anti-magic zones every single time
This rest pulses. It does insane amounts of damage. You'll see fired up. Yes
The damage actually ramps in this phase as well as that poison gets extra stacks on you
Presses GI here and still drops to 50% HP. That's how dangerous. So Nako is down. Eres is available for him
Next rest comes out. Nobody dies.
We can rest, Drunaco.
Yeah, Drunaco actually will be rest without as many sacks of the poison too, which is nice.
He'll have a little bit of an easier time as they do exit this phase.
They do need to beat that last rest, but they're coming to it comfortably.
We've already hit the sleep cult.
I think now she's seeing how consistent we can be in fit.
Now we're just running up the bonus score.
Yeah.
Did Drunaco take the resin die?
Looks like it. Yeah, that does happen.
Oh.
On fights like this, there are a lot of things that you need to dodge.
and being dropped right back in the middle of it is some danger.
What did he die to?
Alright, we're going to have the knockback coming out here shortly.
That does deactivate the portal here, but unfortunately it opens the portal now on this platform.
Fired up takes it fairly early.
Okay, so who are the people that actually go over?
I know it's Atlas and Lyft. Who are the other two?
Uh, Fired up is going to swap now.
Okay.
Oh, no he's not.
he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna knock on his wall actually I think that may
have been a planned death good comes yeah I feel that might not have been a
plane death okay maybe you're right all right well that's okay I think we beat
the bar for a sleep call the question is whether the goalposts will be moved
here by a tyrannical leadership desperate for another P3 pull I I would
see the temptation that's just coming off for Scott I think all right yeah
I think is recalls probably being made up players are leaving okay
Veg call made as we cross over midnight here on time on time
Exactly on time all part of the plan running like a well-oiled machine our team liquid
I'm feeling pretty good about today's progression. We kind of didn't know what to expect with the boss coming into the day
Zara and I whenever we came on to this casting block kind of talked about if they reached the final phase
I feel like that's kind of a good day of Prague and they reached it now
They didn't gain a ton of information off of it
But at the same point that's I don't think you can be too disappointed with what we've seen from liquid today
Tomorrow is going to be by far the most important day for the race world first. You're definitely not going to want to miss it. Oh
Yeah, tomorrow is gonna I think determine the race winner depending on how well the progress of that final
Faces made between the guilds now
I don't think the boss is dying tomorrow, but I think that tomorrow the
Progress that we're going to see is basically
likely to set you up. Now it's not impossible that we see a tomorrow kill. I think it could die on Thursday.
But I think that with what we've seen so far from this boss, it seems like it's unlikely at this point that the boss dies tomorrow from 61%.
Yeah, I mean, but if you think about the progression points that are left in this fight, P1 were good. First-in-imission, we are good.
Again, it's not that these are 100% consistent, but the progression has been done in this fight.
Yeah, we don't need to prog it anymore.
P2 is mostly done with Prague, right? Like, the number check in there, they made it through with it, they haven't made it through with everybody alive, but they made it through that phase, and it's clear that the number check is actually somewhat more lenient than maybe you'd expect even to get out of that phase because they did it with several people dead.
Yeah.
So I would say P2, in terms of the progression, is actually mostly done. Now P3 is probably going to be a somewhat long phase, and every time you get to P3 you have to beat phases one, the intermission, and two.
But they've done most of the Prague of the fight now.
Like we've Prague the first six minutes of this encounter.
There's probably three or four minutes left.
I don't know. I mean, that could happen.
That could pretty conceivably happen in one good day of Prague for me.
I mean, there might still be a lot for them to learn in phase two.
The positioning could be really important for web positioning.
It could be a perfect thing.
Healing still needs to be worked out for that second platform.
It's not consistent enough yet, but...
That'll be the variable, right?
Is like, are we going to have most of our polls make it to P3?
Some point early tomorrow or not if not then there's definitely the boss not dying tomorrow
But if we can get to mostly being in p3 pulls say sometimes soon after lunch
I think is a very good chance the boss could die tomorrow
My expectation is we kind of flip that switch tomorrow where we no longer be wiping in phase one
Yeah, I think the jump off call is gonna start being made much earlier in phase one
I think that we're gonna start seeing wipes in phase one happen one in every five for one in every like ten poles even
Yeah, because just as time goes on you start to become way more and more consistent
with intricate dances like we're seeing right here.
And I think that, you know,
the races really starting to heat up.
I think that Echo needs to have a very good day as well
over the next 24 hours for them to be competitive.
But I think that liquid is,
in my opinion, they look like they're in the lead.
Yeah, this is the part of the race now
where that information being shown from being ahead
is very valuable to the teams that are catching up
both Echo and Method.
We'll gain a ton of valuable data
from having watched Liquid today.
Although they can't get that much farther
than where Liquid are at before that advantage
will then reverse going into tomorrow too.
So I agree with you that I think Liquid
are in a good position here,
but it's all gonna come down to tomorrow,
and possibly Friday, maybe probably Friday.
And I think then the race will probably be over,
I think, unless there is a nasty end to Queen Anceric,
which FireAck sort of had that, right?
FireAck, you could get that to 10%,
a lot more easily than you could take from 10 to zero.
Yeah, I mean, all you need to do is add a bunch of bombs that explode.
Which we don't know makes how to cook earlier about the assences dropped by the acolytes
being permanent and gaining therefore more and more of them existing in P3.
Not to take based on anything from the dungeon or anything, just like a, what if that was
the mythic twist?
And if that was the mythic twist, it could get very hectic by the end of that phase.
Oh yeah.
That would be very judge-y.
I'm just trying to quantify like how difficult this was to be, huh?
The assences are permanent.
Okay.
Once you once you're 15 seconds them are up that just drops it on the ground and needs to be picked up before the next Nova again
Be cool again. There's speculation into the fight, but it was a cool cause it's trying to do. Yeah
I think that I think there is a an instinct after Halanderson fire act to
Think of like what if they do that as the difficulty again because that is how those fights were difficult
Mm-hmm. I think overall from my perspective and I'm interested to hear your guys thoughts on it
How have you guys felt about Queen answer?
I think for in terms of like in boss just watching the boss itself
I felt like it's actually been a pretty cool fight to just view as like a race world first viewer experience
Yeah, I think it looks good
I mean a lot of the times the deaths are fairly visible
Which is one thing that's really nice from a viewer perspective you think back to the launders like yeah
It was cool to watch all that effort, but also you often couldn't see why people died
Yeah, whereas on this boss
I think you usually can see why people died although the portal exploding thing is sometimes a little bit more
difficult to see exactly how that went wrong right? Yeah it's a little weird
sometimes to see the explosions happen and you're not quite sure what it was
that caused the entire side to die but it's time. Max is here, Max is ready.
Got any questions? Hello. Ready for him? So, how's it going? Well we're trying to keep it short
because I'm not feeling the greatest right now but I'm alright. Cool. Alright
well I'm gonna start off. So one of the things that I was curious about
is we've seen different types of polkadences in some of the bosses
over the past few bosses. We saw in Nexus Princess pretty early on you
you guys got to a point where you knew exactly what you were doing, you were going for faster
and faster pulls just so people could see more of the fight.
But we've noticed specifically on this boss, you guys have been taking a lot of time between
pulls and it's almost every single pull.
Are you changing something every pull?
Are people like swapping cooldowns?
You're trying to figure out exactly when people have to like go through the portals
for maximum damage uptime or is it just, I don't know, people aren't quite comfortable
with the fight yet?
Well, if people aren't comfortable with the fight yet, that's actually usually
where we would spam pull.
Because I feel like if the raiders are telling me,
like, I just need to see this phase more,
that's like pretty easy.
You don't need to talk about that, you can just do it.
You're changing stuff all the time.
Like the optimal order of where people are swapping
and how many range do you need on the platform
with like all the accolades and all that stuff, right?
Like that had to change multiple times
because you don't know until you get there
that that's like the thing that, like,
you can't just have an even side.
You have to have it like extremely,
it's extremely precise.
That phase is pretty insane.
Yeah, let's say it's just n bosses. N bosses are super hard and they're super calculated. Also, uh, I think n bosses specifically have this situation where
You can get into the habit of spam pulling a p1 because you just need pulls
But that's often a mistake. It's a mistake we've made in the past where you're okay with a p1 and you can get through it
And then people wipe and you're just like, okay, but let's pull again
But there might be a reason that you're wiping a lot there like sometimes you get past it
But sometimes you don't like this happen multiple times a day the third liquefy and p1
We like moved our boss position a little bit and we were just like probably 75% of the time we were getting through it
But like on our hard end boss getting through p1 same 5% time. That's that's not good
You know you need to
Identify what's making that happen and make it as high of a percentage chance as possible
It made some changes and it made it a lot more consistent
And it's not just about like playing it you can make it easier for people and to not die to those things
Even though they can live it when it's harder. So we did a lot of that
Thought about some comp stuff did some
like look to change some CD timings.
CD timings in this aren't same.
It's like, because you have to figure out how to beat the intermission
while also your two minutes come up at the end of P1.
And it's like, okay, like naturally when you're trying to kill the boss,
you probably want to resend those two minutes,
let them come back up in the intermission,
send them on the really hard P2,
but also you just kind of can't do that.
Like it's just too hard.
Like the boss's intermission just has too much HP on the shield for that.
We lost it initially for progression.
We've been doing it really cleanly without lust for hours now,
yeah, which is good.
That's what you'll need to do for progression.
and then I think the idea is like most likely on a boss like this you'll end up
lusting on the boss whether that's on the pole or like late in the fight with
like spy masters and execute and stuff on an acolyte set we don't know but you
use it you don't know if it's earlier late so you might as well use it on like
points of progression like the second platform in p2 is absolutely
ridiculous so like you kind of have to less that and I was I was really sad
we actually had a player who has never missed a portal all progression missed
it like it was like two or three poles yeah we saw it was that what that was yeah
yeah and that was gonna be in everyone alive p3 we both platforms ads were
fully dead and just like someone brain farted and that was it that was because
the last platforms like super super easy yep like we'd like 15 or 14 manned it or
something yeah so yeah if you can just get this so we would have I mean we would
have saw really low in the fight I well I mean
Yeah. Do you think we're going to be sitting in that last platform and milking the timer
a little bit on that boss cast so that we can recover some CDs there?
Yeah, I looked at that. So when we pushed it in 14-mandat, we pushed it with five seconds
left on the cast, so we could have only milked it five more seconds.
But that does help cool down straight. So that kind of sucks though, because like
intentionally having multiple more people, which would be healers at that point,
going through the portal and then making that less consistent just for damage.
No one likes that, right?
Like no one, have you guys ever pulled a fight where you're just like sitting in a phase
and waiting to kill it because you're waiting for cooldowns, it's not fun?
I mean, waiting around is always miserable.
It's never fun.
It doesn't matter if you're trying to like compete or just play the game, it's just
lame.
So I hope that doesn't happen.
So we're sitting all the way into phase three.
Has any part of this fight necessarily been surprising for you?
We kind of saw that they changed up the spell cadence a little bit with when
the ads were coming out into the last phase.
Anything catch you off guard in terms of this boss?
No, I mean, Razegeth taught me that when they make ad phases
on end bosses, they're usually just way too insane.
So I definitely expected this intermission or P2
to be super insane, and it is.
It's really, really hard.
So I didn't really get that.
I think it's interesting how the portal mechanic works.
Like the portal mechanic, like cool, it's fun.
It actually involves a lot of strategy
of how you would do that correctly.
We've started with tanks going first, started with healers going first.
We started with people without cooldowns going down, but then we had to switch it so whatever
configuration we did ended up with basically all of our ranged on the platform with Acolytes,
which for some reason no melee can hit at all.
Even their hitbox is super weird, I don't know.
But yeah, it's good.
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't think we want to take up too much more of your time.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Thank you.
Good luck tomorrow.
Hope you guys lock in and they're able to kill the boss. Yeah, I don't I don't I mean I think it I don't I haven't well
Okay, we thought about it a decent amount
We don't know exactly how long last phase is gonna last right now like you get the three mythic mechanics
How many rings do you get you get an acolyte set right away which speeds up the phase right?
Yes, like that kind of multiplies the volume
But yeah, I think we should wake up tomorrow and be in p3 like most of the day
I think p2 like just got figured out at the end of the day
So if we can figure out p3 in a day, we could kill it who knows yep, we'll see forward to it
Yeah, cool everybody type. Thank you secret lab and thank you max and chat perfect. Thank you so much
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Think that kind of answers the question that we were kind of spitballing about right before he came on
Yeah, what it what is tomorrow realistically going to look like and if they're consistently getting into phase three?
I think that I think that a tomorrow kill is on table
could kill is the operative phrase here.
Like I think it sounds like it's probably still not north of 50% in Max's mind,
but the fact that it is in their own possibility is exciting because it will be the first day where I think that's true, right?
We're entering now. The end is in sight, right? The light at the end of the tunnel is here.
These are the days that now matter the most.
Yeah, it would have been so nice to see just like 20 seconds more of that thing.
anything just the next set of mechanics comes if we could have seen that
That wave come out of answer back
I think that would have actually told us so many questions would be answered the acolytes like max mentioned
Yeah, what are those realistically gonna look I mean knowing their health values is tremendously valuable now for
14 liquid because now we can actually math out how much damage we can do where you have to bring the boss to
Cleave whether we're gonna need lust for a set of them say if they have the shackles again in this phase
Which I don't see why they wouldn't
I wonder if there's only two of them, or if they'll, you know, mythic it up and throw a couple more at us like they did with those, uh, those froths, too.
Any final closing thoughts that you guys, either you guys have?
Nothing that I think we've covered. I'm just looking forward to tomorrow. Like, we've said multiple times in the past couple of hours. Tomorrow is, like, the make it or break it day, I feel like.
P3 progress all tomorrow. That's what Max said they need to be doing. I agree. They need to be seeing P3 a ton tomorrow.
Get ready in that phase. Get used to that phase and get ready for a kill.
Drowdy shout out the shadow priests. You had a couple hours in the sun today. That was
More than many expected in the race to world first this time around. So that was cool. It's cool to see it
Okay, so programming plan. We got after dark with cams and xyro. You're on with that. I am on. Yeah, perfect
So we got after dark coming up in just a little bit
We're gonna shout out the sponsors as well for helping make this event possible
So big shout out to coinbase secret lab monster energy alienware radar io
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Additionally, we're running this thing where if you're interested in having your own little blue avatar like the team Liquid mascot
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It's completely free to sign up, so if you want, you can check that out as well.
And I think that's going to do it for the cast.
for the cast, stay tuned for the After Dark show, and we will be back tomorrow with some
Queen and Sarek progression. Goodbye.
How about this to celebrate our spring championship?
I celebrated by getting a new Honda Civic Hybrid with style, power, and fuel efficiency.
It's next level awesome. Get in. Why didn't I think of this?
Hi, my name's Atlas, I play Death Knight for the Big Guild.
Some of the features of the Alienware ProLine mouse that I really enjoyed, it's extremely
lightweight, it glides effortlessly across like a mouse pad.
The clicks feel very responsive and give you feedback.
I love how this mouse feels, while players inherently mash their keyboards like crazy
so it's good to have reliable keyboard that is responsive and easy to have clicks
on the keys.
Thank you.
and I play Rogue in Liquid Guild.
Personally, my favorite feature about the ProLine mouse
is that it feels light as a feather.
It's really smooth, and I have no questions
on whether or not I'll be able to use it
for a very exciting period of time.
The customizability of the Alienware keyboard
is a great feature to have, as you're able
to change the lighting whenever you want,
and even change between switches.
Hi, I am Bubba Dubb.
I am an analyst slash officer in Liquid Guild.
The main feature that I really like about the mouse
is the side buttons.
give you direct feedback on whether you pressed it or not. The weight and the shape of this mouse are perfect for me.
This keyboard is definitely something that I would use at home for general use and for gaming. The way that the keyboard feels to me,
I get instantaneous feedback on what button I pressed and how I pressed it.
Hi, my name is Max, and I'm the Ray Bleeder of Liquid Field. I wear a ProMouse. It's actually great.
It's wireless. It's super easy to deal with. It has great skates, so it actually will glide really well.
You can use it all day and you don't get sore at all.
So the Alienware ProLine keyboard is actually great for a while. If you want smaller desk
space taken up by your keyboard, it can also connect to three different devices through
Bluetooth and just overall it has a great feel. This might be the best keyboard I've
ever used. What is this? Where's my secret lab? This is your chair. That's not my
chair. It's in my contract, man. I only sit in secret lab chairs. Look, I'm gonna
have permanent back damage because of this. What's going on with them? Pierre forgot
a secret lab.
Look at my ass, look at my ass.
Max is gone.
Diva.
I use secret labs. This is some dog
shit.
Ever since Max ran into his contract,
he's been, like, weirdly
obsessed with secret lab chairs.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
He does everything in them.
Like, everything.
Like, I get it. They're great chairs.
But it's just, like, a bit much.
I guess he had it put in his contract to always be sitting in a secret lab chair.
I mean, who does that? When did that happen?
Good secret lab.
Look, it's not about the design or the comfort. It's the personalized ergonomics.
Right? Why else would it be in my contract? I want it wherever I'm at.
I feel like people here just don't get it, you know?
For sure.
Like, it's like when you're used to sushi and then you go back to Cantuna.
You just don't want that, right? No one wants that.
That's crazy.
I feel like we should be focusing more on prepping for the actual race than, like, what chairs we sit in.
I mean, like, how comfortable can they really be?
I kind of get it.
Let's move my two to a three and my five to a seven. I'm going to take a quick dinner around then.
Actually, you know what? Instead of the three, maybe move that to a one.
That way I don't have to come to the office until way later, hopefully.
Hey.
Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
Look, it is what it is. I'm a nice guy, but Secret Lab, that's the only chair this butt sits in.
There's either a Secret Lab there or I'm not going.
Alright, that's a wrap everybody. Thank you. Have a good night.
There's my Secret Lab.
Well first, after dark, I'm Cams. I'm joined by Zyro. Zyronic. Doing a little nickname.
Yeah, thanks Cams.
Big phone name. Zyronic.
Yeah, that's me.
You're gonna play some GeoGuessir.
Oh yeah, it's time.
It's time fan favorite you guys are with us. It'll be linked in chat
At some point lost gamer dot. I oh is the website. I'll be looking for this link and
Are you pretty good at Geo guess her? I'm terrible terrible. Yeah, I'm
Okay, me and calm Ozzy the decent but
They're like certain places. I know pretty well this is that I've played
Yeah, give me like a classic or like a burning crusade place and I'll be like
Even like WOD, I was realizing it was like, oh I only know the garrison.
I don't know anything else that goes on out here.
But what this does do is it gives us a chance to flex our competitive juices a little bit.
Yeah.
Oh I see it in chat.
You guys in chat.
Join that link in chat if you want to show us what you know about geographic locations
in the wild place.
You know who's really good at this?
Who?
Trill.
Trill?
Oh I can see that, yeah.
There was a different version of this game, not this one, but it was a similar thing,
it showed you a place in the game and you had to type where it was.
There were like 400 locations in the game.
He got all 400 of them.
He ran out of locations.
He just did them all.
Yeah, he has got skills in all versions of WoW.
He's been playing.
Did he start?
What age?
I don't know.
Young.
Yeah.
I feel like he's someone who started young and early expansions too.
It wasn't like he got in in like WAP or BFA or something.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's been with it a while.
All right, we're populating.
30 seconds, we think 30 seconds is enough?
Yeah, they go pretty quick.
Okay.
Sometimes the rules will change.
Sometimes we're allowed to move.
Sometimes we're pan.
30 seconds is tough.
That's not a lot of time to think you just have it fast.
That's good.
Cause there are some people that if you give them
a full minute, they'll get it down to the pixel.
They'll get it within a yard.
Yeah, I found sometimes the hardest thing is like,
I know about where that is and it's hard to tell how far you are from like you're like that's the road right there
But I can't tell are we like, you know here or there
We're filling up. I know a few players who I've played with who are insane at this
There are a few players in edict that are wild at this great Geo guessers
Yes, what there's got to be some skill with the spatial awareness like that the people there was a like Geo
guess our tournament for the real-world version, people are so quick at that
looking at license plates. Let's scroll down our user list. Do we have anybody
that's crazy enough to actually have, oh I see one, Remy Reeve, somebody actually
has an account on this site, that's one of the people I know, they're really good
at this. Powerful Thickboy. Any other obvious names? Thickboy, Tiberzee. Maybe Tiberzee, oh there I am. Oh there's you, yeah.
Oh, Milky Depression. Pretty sure that's, that's, that's somebody without an account.
Let's see who else we got in here
Puzzling natural a lot of
Generated names. Oops. There's another one. Okay. What up fire assassin shout out rare friendship
Troubled gatherer
plastic
Well, I think I know that is too. Okay
Yeah, join hit the link and chat hit that link. I'll join it soon
And me and Colomanzi, we got, I think, like, 11th place on one of them. That's pretty good.
Out of how many people do you have?
There was like 100. Okay.
We got 98. Starting in one minute.
Sign. You don't have to sign up. Just click the link.
Yeah, you don't even have to make an account. Let's give you a grubby wonder name.
Hasty respect.
Yeah, it'll give you two different truths.
Or it'll give you an adjective and a noun, and then four numbers for free, actually.
If the site is breaking for you try turning off ad block that may let you through
Okay, cool
Yearly serve. I'm ready. We're gonna do a couple games. There's a couple games. Yeah, okay, okay, and they'll be there'll be a varying rule sets
Corrupt lie. Listen, you give me the daily dolls. I'm I'm as good as the rest of them, but when it comes to wow
especially geogas serving well? I don't know. Dude can we do it? Can we do it after dark?
We're starting. Sorry with which? I'll ask again after. We got a game. We got a game.
Focus up. All right. Two. Here we go. One. All right. This is the spend area. Spend area.
Okay. Yes. All right. We go down here. We spent the first round trying to figure out how to
change zones. This is like on the west side of the middle area. Yeah, we were like
Somewhere right here somewhere in there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
So that a few seconds well, oh
Don't have much room to work here with my mouse things on the south side the mountain. Yeah, right there right there
It's about that's a good guy. Maybe a little further. I like this. I like this you're close. I'm gonna go. Oh
I was gonna check the trees
Yo 47 not bad. We have any perfect yeses
Let's hold down and see if we have any progress.
We were right here, he's up there, look at that, right on.
Wow, Remy 5000, see I told you, she's insane.
Powerful, powerful start to round one, where do we end up?
Okay, time, starting?
Next one?
This sound I know it, Arathi Highlands?
Maybe?
Is that something over in Eastern Kingdoms?
So, Erothi Islands, I think.
So, more in Erothi, I could see.
East side, maybe.
There's a bunch of farms there.
See if you can find a farm.
Farm.
On the map.
Ooh, maybe.
No, I don't think we're buying that.
We could be not even...
I don't think we're even close, actually.
Maybe we're...
I'm just gonna go buy that, this thing right here.
We're looking north, looking at it.
Oh!
Oh!
Not bad!
Okay, not bad.
We'll take it.
See, it's some of these classic things that are just built in the back of my brain
I haven't been to this zone in I don't know how many years hold on a bit see if we got any more perfect scores
Oh, yeah, you want to see ooh close a lot. Oh, yeah, perfect. So many perfects. What just a little slower. You guys are insane
What is there a way to cheat in this? I'm having nothing. I know where I think we were like right we were to
Okay, sorry walk in oh bird and crusade
main zone, the first one, Hellfire Peninsula.
Pull around and give us a look.
We'll work close to the portal, big hint.
Easy, portal's there.
We're right next to the two big pillars.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Free, yeah, this is where it's hard.
I mean, we'll get good points at...
Anyways, but like how far is this air?
We're gonna get 5,000 from that.
Okay, we're in this kind of like crevice.
So we're like right here, right?
Something like that, maybe a little...
Yeah, that's pretty good.
I like that.
Okay
That better be a five thousand come on. No way. Okay, Forty-nil. What?
Where was it?
We were around on top of it
We were just a little bit too far away for the perfect score a lot a lot of people got this and that was very
Very good clues on that job guys. Good job
Fantastic work everybody
If you did not click there, I don't know what to say
Okay, scroll us. This looks new newer. This is a BFA. Yes, this is in in Zandalar. Zoldazar.
Yep, there was it's sort of on the north side of that orange part right there. Yep, somewhere in there.
Okay, we are we're looking south kind of down it. So we're on the north side somewhere north. There's a cave
somewhere near the north somewhere in the north it's not gonna be perfect it'll be good okay I
think we're out of time not the worst okay where was it oh it was deep in there baited by there's
the cave that was a tough one didn't we have a perfect on that one we're gonna hit a 5000 no
Oh, close.
Thousands, wow.
Oh, still, great guess, Remy.
Wow.
Fantastic work.
Okay, all right.
Okay, we're halfway through.
We're calling back, we're calling back through.
What do we got here?
We're in some textures.
We're in Wrath of Lich King, I believe.
Maybe Grizzly Hills, or maybe the first Howling Fjord.
I can't tell.
I don't know.
This is a tough one.
one of the mountains and grizzly hills probably good guess let's just get it let's see well
we're kind of by the edge here all right there are going to be some people that'll just know
this from playing this game too much like oh we're in the tree that's the spot in this zone
5000 you don't come up to that tree right by the thing okay we're gonna oh no oh was it
broken aisles hi mountain hi mountain oh it just looked like wrath nobody's close though right
Wow. No. It was a high score.
Decent, but not no fives.
Crazy. OK.
That was a tough one.
We got we fell by the right center of the tallest mountain.
That's not great.
No, we got blasted there. OK, this is Wrath of the Lich King.
This is some Northrend. This is right.
Uh, I think you're right.
I think that's the only place with the like Aurora Borealis thing.
This is Grizzly, right?
Is this Grizzly or is this Howling Fjord?
I don't know I didn't I was Horde so I never did this on
Don't have time eight seconds
We'll do it here. We'll pick the middle ground. I feel like that big building is a pretty big clue
But I don't know what that big building. Oh, what's that? Oh, oh
Try to sniper one out, but okay, we did okay the right zone. We'll take it
It's 30 seconds. It's fast only one perfect score though. Only few more
Four more left for this round.
This is tough.
30 seconds is tough, man.
It's hard.
To me and Kalamazoo have longer, I feel like we...
This is the storm zone in the north side of Outland, another storm, yep.
We're getting another storm.
We are against it here.
Where's another temp?
Our temp's keep is over there.
We're looking...
Is that it?
We're looking south on it?
Yes, we're at the north side for sure.
So we're maybe like right there?
Yeah.
We can only...
We'll see.
Oh, we can see pipes in front of us like that actually. Yeah, that's maybe a little
Right there
No, it's moving fast
Okay
We were somewhere like yeah, that's pretty close not bad. Oh
Scores again
We'll catch you one day
hungry wedding
Okay, this is old red rage is a red rage. Yeah, I think so
Yeah, these some of the old zones. They're just baked in there
I don't know why because I've you know, I flew around a bit. Oh is it stone talent?
What is red rage actually, I don't even know it's the other side I
Don't know. I was thinking this one, but we might be I think it's this one
The night off stuff. Oh, yeah, you're right. You're right. I think it was north of that, but I think we're
That's pretty close. We saved it. We saved it. Oh, that's very close actually
Okay, oh it was slightly yeah, we were somewhere
Not bad. Oh, yeah, let's go look
They just play a lot or yeah, they just play a lot they do like guild battles of this I see you
Oop, Gundrak or whatever the name of that place is.
Yep, yep.
Oh, it's Old Drac, Old Drac up there.
Gundrak.
Zoom around, maybe we can get a good spot.
This might be outside of the frosty area, yeah.
Yeah, we're somewhere by like the theater thing, maybe.
Sort of, sort of like in, in that area, maybe to the west a little bit, sort of in
this area.
Yeah, that looks good.
Right there.
Wait, we're, I was going to say we're looking south at a tree.
Remy gets this one too. Okay, not bad. We have the zone sometimes that's as good as you can get
Show us the show us the top. Oh
Wait scrolling don't go dunk up there in the top ten. Okay. He's kind of the like if we can beat dunk then we've won. Oh
That's pretty good, that's not 50%
That was a tough one though. That was just a mess of rocks.
Ooh, a nice Legion.
Yeah, nice little Legion one. This is Isshara. I'm quite sure.
Somewhere in that broken isle part of Isshara, looking up at Dalaran.
Oh, Azuna, I mean, sorry.
Okay, let's wait.
Azuna.
I think it's the south side of Azuna.
Right here.
Yeah. So there's like some ghosts there. I remember this.
Yeah, where were those?
That looks like it's down here.
Right in there, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Are we by fountain?
We're getting the clock.
I'm nervous.
We're close.
OK.
Oh, oh.
OK.
We're close.
Not bad, not bad.
All right, it was just, I think we're here.
Not bad.
Someone was dead.
Look at this dude.
Two people were dead on.
Jeez.
Someone was extra dead on.
You guys are insane.
All right, that was all 10.
Who's our winner going to be?
Oh, yeah, that was 10.
endings. Click on it. We're going to see it here. Oh, well, be closed. Oh, it barked
out for production. I think we won. Oh, yeah. Let's go. Let's go. Production loss. Okay,
I believe another link will be put into chat and unbroken one.
Go check.
Yeah, new game will be started.
Different rules, probably a little longer.
A little longer.
Yeah, we're going to get a lot more perfect.
We got to get in there quick.
Get the reps in.