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Race to World First 11.0 - Nerub-ar Palace - Day 6 - !charity !apparel !warcraft20
09-23-2024 · 43h 49m
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Hello everybody and good morning. Welcome to Rise and Raid with my blue. My name is Ziya and I'm Jen
And I was about to say it's a sunny morning in Los Angeles, but it's raining outside. It's a very drab and drizzly
View that's right. I love it. Just feel like a moisture in the air. Yeah, it's like they're juvenating me
I'm so used to more humid climate and everything too. I know we I brought the Midwestern weather with me
I'm sorry about that. Thank goodness. Yeah, we needed it. We do need it. Yeah, I wash the streets clean
It's always always nice. It's nice to have a good start as well to the day.
Washing everything clean, starting new and getting an amazing food buff to start
the journey. So true. Love the food buff. The Chef Heidi special. Getting that
eSports nutrition in. We can take a look at the menu of the day. Breakfast
sammies. Breakfast potatoes, overnight oats and fresh fruit is on the menu for
this morning Jack. We love to see it. We also have some sausage as well. We have a
little bonus extra I just checked on before we got on to the broadcast and
everything I believe it's egg cheese and ham for the breakfast sandwiches and for
lunch we've got that a barbecue pork sandwiches love to be able to see it and
buffalo chicken so the nice option for everybody depending on what they'd like
fill us some cattle chips and fruit and greens and if we're dinner we're having
pizza night whoa two exclamation points let's go that's exciting rumor
has it there might be some wings as well for Kalamazie. Oh true you know last
time we had a pizza night there were also wings there was like breadsticks
yeah it was a bucket it was just like a bucket just like yay hi just filled with
wings. Yeah I didn't have any of them did you? No I think Kalamazie just had this
look in his eyes and I just like stepped out of his way. It's over. Yeah the hunger.
Yeah I get it yeah gotta feed the Florida man. Oh yeah you do and all
of the Raiders as well because it's tough work getting to all of the
raid progression that we've seen thus far and we're not even onto the while we
just got to the last penultimate boss second to last and it feels like it's
been a long journey and through it it requires some absolute cutting edge
precision and that is something that our Honda MVP of the day has exhibited
10 times over.
Absolutely.
And that man is Scott for the Honda MVP of the day.
He in particular had a tough nut time.
I mean, he handled it very gracefully.
Always.
Had to play an interesting mechanic, Jack,
where we were sacrificing him towards the final bit
of that fight.
That's right.
He would not quit throughout this encounter
as the strategy involves sacrificing your tank
three different times in the encounter
and utilizing either the Ancestral Protection Totem from the Resto Shaman to get a free battle res
or just taking advantage of THD's Soul Stone to resurrect onto the encounter.
Repeatedly getting resed and having the DPS taunt off using some of those died by the sword mechanics
so they don't die to any melee strikes, staying alive just long enough to guarantee the world first kill.
And bakens and beans in the process.
That he is, that he is. Scott has been a mainstay in the guild for quite a long time. Notably he was soloing the last bit of Anduin in the sepulcher raid.
Bruce and the world first kill in that raid as well. And when it comes to these impossible jobs, we even mentioned how Brewmaster felt like it was the stronger of the tanks when it came to just surviving.
They bring it onto a bear and they're figuring out a way to keep him alive and get that boss down with a one tank strategy.
Yeah, no, we love Scott. He also does a lot of work sort of like behind the scenes
He sort of acts as like the liaison between you know team liquid and the rest of the guild alongside Bubba and tags
So he does a lot of work and it's like the administrative sense as well, of course hard worker it
Incredibly hard to work on that one lots of hats as well and a great karaoke singer
So true. Yeah, I was not expecting that he's such a quiet stoic man
and then a couple of two years ago we had a karaoke session just you know here in
the office for funsies and he's like whipped out Frank Sinatra yeah like
he's been doing it his whole life he was ready for it too it was so ready I had
to blast with him yeah oh yeah you do it with it we did a few different songs we
did a blue suede shoes as well together is that Frank Sinatra yes something
about era petition needed chats actually gonna know if I blow up no it's
actually Elvis or something like that.
It is Elvis.
That's right, okay.
That's what I thought.
Yeah, I was like between the two
and I'm pretty sure it was Elvis.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have a video of that that I made.
It was a charity incentive, was it last year maybe
where we would release the footage for that?
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, and we replay it while we have time to fill today.
We might have time to fill today.
I don't know, we can get in that later,
but let's take a look also first
at some of the other guilds
and their progression, of course.
Method, Echo, currently on that Coinbase leaderboard.
They have both started on Silk and Court.
We can maybe update everyone on how Method specifically
is doing.
We do have a clip of Cuella and her POV.
My queen, I love her so much.
Hey, we have the Heartbeat Tracker as well.
Yes!
We're going on for a tour.
Cuella special.
This is one of my favorites.
Remember seeing this at like 140, 150 geese
and I get her on the Hlandras kill as well.
Just the pulse pounding moment here.
You can see it's rising as well at the very end
the encounter as everybody is just trying to survive and make sure they can even use the mandate
that Mad Queen's mandate trinket dealing a massive amount of damage to a singular target
to finish off this encounter and be able to get moves of the world third kill onto this.
I believe so. I'd love to see that.
I'd have to do that succession too.
Yeah, I'd love to see like a bar graph of the heart rate, her heart rate throughout the fight
and like, I don't know, deaths or so.
I don't know what you could compare it to
that it might correlate with, but there we go.
Celebrating.
You was even going even higher as well.
Yeah, you wait, that's like.
157 as well.
That's the thing, this encounter is just enormously
challenging and just absolutely can be so sucking
when you can do everything right
and still have wipes and still perish.
To the point that you're sort of rolling the dice
to hope that some of the tankiest classes are receiving the Queensbane Dot, which even
got nerfed mid-progression because it was so brutal for everybody, and getting the boss
down with the sort of like the right RNG and the right setup.
The lack of gear for all of these guilds compared to what our maximum eye level is going to
be of like 639.
All the teams around 622 when they got this kill, it was so noticeable how much lower
the stamina was compared to the damage.
had healers who are building specifically just for triage output to make sure they could keep
everybody healthy above that 10% mark since the reaper mechanic on this fight will instantly kill
you if you are sub 10%. Of course, congratulations to both Echo and Method for their world second,
world third kills. That means all three guilds are going to be on to Silkencork today.
Yeah, it's still kind of early in the day also over in Germany where both Method and Echo
are competing so we're gonna have side by side hopefully because I love when that
happens. Right. Side by side pulls on a silken cord and that should be, this is
when the race kind of really starts to start. It does. And yesterday, notably
liquid, after killing Nexus Princess they got a few pulls in on silken
cord and they said hey we need to hop off, go a little dark, have the raiders
do M-plus and then we start mapping out, figuring out some of the timings,
how we're coordinating some of our choreography really and how everyone's
moving throughout the encounter.
Yeah, and we had to fill quite a bit last night.
We, Kams brought his grandpa in and makes, taught him how to play World of Warcraft.
Love that.
Yeah, that one.
Actually, his grandfather?
Yes.
Actually, his real grandfather.
We flew him in.
I don't know if he was like local or something like that.
Well, his dad came into town last time, right?
Yeah. Yeah. A little bit more with the times than Cam's grandpa.
No, no.
It worked out nicely. Yeah. You know, he kind of was determined to get on the raid team almost immediately.
So he's got a little bit more to practice probably before he gets up to a world first level.
I think everybody can use a little bit more practice, a little bit fresher as well.
Yeah, you never know. It's always good to humble yourself and kind of start backing your roots every once in a while.
Of course.
But Team Liquid, they did get a world first princess kaiveza down.
You can take a look at that replay right here from Inpex POE.
Yeah, this has been one of the most grueling encounters we've had in quite a long time.
And while the mechanics have been more straightforward than most of the 300 pole boss encounters we've seen in the World First race,
the tuning itself, the amount of health that the boss has, the amount of damage the boss is dealing,
has been enormously noticeable for this race to World First.
It's also just been grueling for these raiders,
trying to find the additional damage to the point
that the two tank strategy after,
I wanna say 150 or almost 200 pulls
gets tossed out the window when they realize
they did not have enough damage
to get the boss down with two of those tank players.
And so they switched to the one tank strategy
which had a little bit of reprogression,
but the majority of the attempts
after they switched to the one tank strategy
really just involved trying to figure out,
We're trying to make sure that the players who were the least defensive, who were the
weakest, we're just not getting targeted by those mechanics that they could actually survive
because you could have some unfortunate RNG of the same players getting targeted over and
over and over again, leading to deaths.
And when you're running a one tank strategy, you can't have any deaths by the DPS until
maybe the very end of the encounter, I think that's what we had.
It was like one death on Riku, which should actually be coming up here.
that they were able to use the battle res for and then like I mentioned earlier the ancestral protection totem giving that free battle res
You could see it in this like wispy circle around the room
It takes up the entirety of that central sigil sitting in the room
You can see this light blue animation
sparkling around there that means that the next player to die within that field is going to receive a free res
And so it's fantastic for when you want to plan res is on an encounter for certain debuffs
Like the tank dot this shredder debuff does a ton of damage instantly and has an almost a 30 second dot component to it a
Damage over time component and what really ends up happening is you need to have your tank sacrifice themselves in order to
More or less immune that debuff since they die to the debuff
And then they res again and they are then cleansed of it and here you can see the final burn on the boss with
everybody alive and just popping everything to make sure the team survives.
Of course tanks able to stand in some of those void pie slices to avoid
splashing on to anybody else. It is imperative that people are moving as
little as possible especially with these line mechanics in called Regicide
because they can splash on to other players and kill them off if you're
not careful. Yeah and it was a really really incredible
We saw them just continue to diminish that health as they went into that final phase.
It was like 10%, 9%, and then this poll ended up I think being like 7%.
So this poll and the way that they had to do it to squeak out that last bit of DPS
basically was so unforgiving.
If they had anybody wipe in the first couple of minutes, they would just restart.
I've never seen, especially with the fact that you don't have to get a food buff anymore every single time,
just like chain pull.
basically, as people were still resing,
like the pull timer, I feel like was already going off.
So you really got to get in that repetition.
Yeah, you do.
And it's just mind-numbing at times for these Raiders
having to repeat it over and over and over again,
especially if you've done everything right.
You get to the encounter where you're doing every single
mechanic properly.
You're using all of your defenses properly.
And then you can still die anyway onto the fight.
And that's what led to a crazy amount of frustration
for the guild and for probably everybody who has been progressing on this encounter and
working on it just because the damage is so high.
It's one of these encounters that when you can outgear it or when the stacking raid nerf
starts being implemented in the next couple of weeks after the race to world first is
over, this fight is going to fall over for a lot more teams, but boy is it a different
encounter for the world first guilds.
Yeah, it certainly is.
I'm interested to see how it's going to go on reset and kind of, you know, just
the difference.
Second go around I would love to see a nerf announced that would discourage a one-tank strategy
Yeah, they're probably nice kill it off entirely as well as having some slight health nerf to it because I think even if
If they do not change the strategy at all and then they just say hey you have you know two three four
I levels more you're still gonna have possibly like half hour or an hours worth of attempts just to get the right combination of
mechanics and targeting to get the
re-kill on the boss and that does not
sound too fun. Well we'll cross that
bridge. That's not our problem.
Our problem is instead the Silken
Court along with a couple of other
guilds. We can take a look at the best
pull from method that they had I'm
assuming today earlier today in the
EU time. I'd love to be able to see it.
Notably a lot of the mechanics are
very similar to what we've
experienced on heroic and should be
very familiar. You are going to have these web bombs, you can see on the far left side of your screen in methods POV,
that players are able to stand in and as if they have another partner in the webs with them,
they are then able to activate a web tether which they can use to stop the boss from
charging into the wall. That web tether requires three
tethers together to make sure that you could stop it, but the big thing is the mythic mechanic here with the orbs.
You can see on the encounter. There's red and blue orbs and the raid has to be split into two teams
The red team whenever they get targeted by an unavoidable mechanic are going to drop red orbs now if these orbs are not soaked
They afflict the blue team with a debuff that when stacked if it hits three stacks
It instantly kills that player and prevents them from being resed for the rest of the encounter
Where was he going?
And so this...
Sorry, it didn't mean to cut you off, but that was funny.
He's going to take a breather on about that one.
I'm going to walk that off.
So the solution on this fight is that the red team must
soak blue orbs without reaching three stacks.
Of course, they expire after about 20 seconds or so.
And then, of course, the blue group
has to soak the red orbs, again, not reaching three stacks.
There's a ridiculous amount of choreography
that goes into this encounter to make sure
the teams are sort of moving almost parallel to each other,
sort of mirroring each other's positioning
while you handle all of these mechanics.
The other challenge is you're having moments where entire groups are getting dragged in to
the boss together, activating more tethers, and in the second phase, you can snap those
tethers instantly.
In the final phase, you need to keep a few of these tethers going so that you can then
clothesline the boss in the final phase, get that damage amplifier onto it, and add
more damage.
Ooh!
Yeah, a lot going on.
I mean, you see the bulk of the mechanics that you're going to see throughout the
the rest of the fight in that first chunk of the fight.
So I feel like once we see them nail down strategy for that,
because, of course, we don't know what they were up to last night,
we're going to see significant progress get
chunked off the boss.
Oh, yes.
Today is going to be one of the best days of race
because we're going to have all three guilds in the next hour
or so when Liquid's getting ready for raid.
In the next hour or so, we're
going to have all three guilds competing
on the exact same boss, seeing what progress is going
be made for them and how well they're going to execute. So if you guys have no
idea what's happening in Soap and Court, pay attention on this part. The fight
begins and each of the loot tenants is going to have a red or a blue circle and
when the cast completes you are going to get marked with a red or blue buff.
So when you have any of the unavoidable mechanics going out in this
encounter you're going to see this venomous rain coming down in just a
moment. When that goes out, players are of course going to be dropping red orb
blue orbs. As you can see, the red orbs go down from fired up to POV and he starts
sliding along with the rest of the red team to start picking up those blue
orbs. The blue team has to do the same thing with the red orbs. If those orbs
are not soaked, they explode and then add a stack to all of the players on
the opposing team. So if a blue orb goes off, it applies a blue debuff to
red team. If red team has three blue debuffs onto them, they instantly die, cannot be resed
for the rest of the encounter, and then they are just out, basically. This fight is a crazy
amount of movement, while also requiring more tethers to close line the boss, and there's
moments in the intermission phase where you have to be just pinwheeling, carouseling
around the boss, soaking the other team's orbs while not reaching too many stacks of your own.
I have some interesting news. Yes. 30 minutes ago, WoW had announced that there's going to be a
hot fix to Stinging Swarm. So we saw on Mythic there was a bug where if you put all stacks
onto Codge, you would not be disoriented and stop this cast while we didn't datamine anything
that fixes it considering it seems to target the same spell and may be fixed now. So Stinging
Swarm now deals 50% less damage to players but takes every 0.5 seconds where it was previously
won. Now it deals 44% less damage on Mythic and now takes on the boss instantly when applied.
Interesting. So it looks like I think having a more frequent tick rate is often a good thing
even if the damage the total damage may be around the same and so this is gonna allow us a little
bit more of an idea as to how much damage they're actively taking. It's a little bit less of a
chunk and so you're gonna have more active spot healing going into the players so it looks like
Already method and echo we're having to deal with a couple bugs in the encounter. Yeah, so no pun intended because it's a ha ha ha
Uh and as a result, you know it might have stymied a little bit of their progress early on whereas liquid
We saw them doing lots of mythic plus. They did they ended up doing any uh mythic splits
They they talked about doing it of like getting the first four bosses down
person potential alt swaperu going on to it. So they're making very good use of
their time is my point. Yeah. Not smashing face into the boss and running
into some of these bugs that might stop their progress for a little while and
wait for hotfixes to make sure that they are dealt with. So it'd be very
interesting to see today if there's any other bugs remaining that might
actually impede progress for any of these guilds and you have to keep
mine. At some point, Method and Echo, probably tomorrow, are gonna have to make sure they get
all the remaining dungeons done, max out their vaults, because Super Luke Tuesday for the U.S.
or Super Luke Wednesday for EU is going to make a very huge difference when it comes to the last
two bosses for progression.
Can I address something in the chat, Jack?
Of course.
Some haters are gonna have bugs. Well, she doesn't have eight legs, so she's not as bad.
Didn't ask.
Didn't ask.
Risen Raid decides what our bugs. Exactly. A bug if we wanted to be a bug. They squish all the same.
They do. Once you set them out into the wild like I had us. The well-actually spiders are not bugs
comment. I think it's a little shatting comment I've seen this entire tier and I'm so sick of it.
Do either of these mobs have eight legs? No. Oh, so they're bugs then? They're not spiders. Not
Technically, that's weird. I see I see six legs. I see four legs on both of them. Yeah, I get a I get a fact-check count
Yeah, I'm gonna get an enhanced computer and hands
You squish spider-dosey
Yes, oh, yeah
There's no mercy or if they're honestly if they're in like a corner
I'll kind of just like let them chill. No, I've done that in the past
I've had mercy and then make pure again
I thought we would have a verbal agreement as to you don't bother me
I don't bother you, but then they pop up again, and then they bother you. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's not great
I had one fall on his web in my face. Oh
Right in front of me recently that one freaked me out
I had one that was like in my car and it was in like a summertime
And so I always had the AC going on and so I just rolled down all the windows and then it flew out of the car
Okay
Passenger princess, that's right. You just let him be free. I couldn't quite grab him when the corner that he was in right
That's all I just rolled down all the windows and got on the highway and I like that works
Hmm. Oh man. We have a giant orb weaver. That's hanging out at the outside of her house. We let her chill
Yeah, oh, yeah, they're like outside the house or something like that. Yeah doing her thing
Cool, do you do your business kill a spider that's outside of your house? I feel like you're just no, that's their domain not a nice
Yeah, that's their domain. They want to hang out there good. Yeah
You're coming in in their house and you're pushing them. Yeah, that's right
I mean we're kind of doing that with these books to be fair. The the funniest thing I think about like the lore of this raid
Yeah, is that we're not we're not even like sneaking into the palace to take out the leadership or anything
Yeah, we're walking through the front door
Mm-hmm the entire palace knows we're there and then we're just destroying everything in our path
Yeah, to the point that we even had a moment where like thrown of thunder
The Thunder King would send us down into the sewers to try to kill us
And we'd have to kill all of his denizens in the sewer or something like that the ancient
Monstrosities there. No, we're literally just fighting our way through the entire palace
They're trying to kill us and send us down into the depths of all their evil concoctions
We're just fighting our way up and mowing anyone down our path. We're crashing the party very much so
Yeah.
All right.
Well, it's a great party as well.
We kind of invited ourselves to.
We did, you know?
And that's just kind of how we go as the murder hobos.
We find loots.
We would like to get the loot.
We would like to make sure our characters look as cool
as they can.
Uh-huh.
And nothing is going to stand in our way.
Absolutely not.
But speaking of making your characters as cool as they
can, have you checked out My Blue?
I have.
Oh my gosh, teal.gg slash My Blue.
It is the new and improved Team Liquid fan hub.
This is our way to basically reward the viewers.
So if you're sitting here watching either us or Max
or any of the other Raiders or any of the other Team Liquid
streamers, even outside of World of Warcraft,
you definitely should be checking out My Blue.
You can scan that code.
Or like I said, go to TL.GG slash My Blue.
You can have a more traditional experience
to that website, similar to Liquid Plus,
or you can join the My Blue specific experience
and have your own little avatar
that you can dress up. Some of the items kind of look a little bit warcraft-esque,
and some of them are also exclusive to the Racer of First.
They are indeed. There's a number of quests that they have going out every single day.
Getting you a couple little mage robes on hand. You can customize your character as you see fit.
Some of them you can even have a trash can. Did you see that one?
I did. I did not.
Oh, you can just have your blue in like a little trash can.
That's amazing.
We'll can for a hat. Oh, I like the dagger, the little spooner dagger they have on it.
Would you be dual wheeled those?
Oh, I would love that.
Still waiting to see the staves.
I've been talking to the team live.
Yeah, gotta love to know.
In my dreams.
In your dreams, okay.
Add more staves, add more free staves.
I agree.
This one was based off Regicide.
Oh, that was one of the daggers
that dropped off of Princess Kaivesa.
Yeah, sure was.
So you can RP also with your My Blue
if you'd like to and pretend you're
in there fighting alongside Team Liquid.
But if you go and sign up for My Blue,
you go to TL.GG slash My Blue,
and you complete the quest for the derp shirt,
you can be entered for a chance to win
a pretty good giveaway, Jack.
Yes.
You just keep piling things onto it.
There is a crazy treasure trove of items
that is being given away from the team at My Blue.
Have to go in, get your derp shirt quest
that I have on right now, get that done,
and you'll be entered to win so many things.
I gotta tell you, so many things.
Oh, there's the other derp shirt as well.
Yeah, well that is the derp shirt.
I believe that they are winning with the quest.
So last year, last year's,
maybe we can load that one up in there too.
And but if you go in there, complete the quest,
then you are entered for a chance to win
just a whole plethora of things that we can show
in just a moment.
But look how cute your mind blue could look
if you go and do that quest.
It's probably pretty easy too.
I actually have not, I need to do it myself.
I kind of just was spam doing the quest
so I don't know which one specifically it was.
But first couple, I probably did.
first like 5, 10 that they give you are really easy.
And then the other ones can include, you know,
checking into a specific stream or on Team Liquid Stream
or watching the race world first or something like that.
That's right.
I'm joining the chat spam as we're filling time
or waiting or something like that for the next boss
to get pulled.
Yeah, all kinds of fun quests and activities
to show your fandom for Team Liquid.
And here is that treasure trove that we were mentioning.
Yep, not only are they given away
the 20th anniversary WoW Collector's Edition with statueing all of the other
in-game goodies that it provides. They're also providing the secret lab's chair, a
case of the Raiders' favorite monster energy, all of the shirts, both vintage
and the new ones. You can see in the top left there's the derp shirt. It's gonna
be coming right at the top left, as well as the new derp shirt that I have
on at the moment. The hoodie as well for Queen Ansarek and so much more.
They have plushies in there, they have all the shirts in there.
I think they also have the larger jackets from the 20th anniversary Warcraft collection.
They have Illidan and Arthas on them as well.
They're very warm. They're like fuzzy on the outside.
So warm.
And I can't remember if they have like the the dark sort of like padding on the inside.
Yeah.
So they're not like overly like insulated.
That's the nice insulation they have.
Yeah, I want the one that I'm going to go skiing in it.
Yes.
I could genuinely ski in something like that.
And, of course, with the My Blue community,
you can give a special shout-out directly to Team Liquid themselves,
cheering them on.
And here we have a few of those special shout-outs.
All right, here's one. Let's go.
Cheering for you with my Liquid Guild,
a bin being beer-stine.
From Liquid Plus Rewards, that is from Kieran,
and then we've got Let's Go Liquid from Fishface.
Nice name.
Love to see you. We have Let's Go Team.
He's in the trash can as well.
See, I love how everybody likes the trash cans.
These bosses aren't as bossy as we are.
Wait, that came out kind of wrong.
Let's go liquid.
Wee.
Wee, Thor dry?
Wee, Thor dry?
Yeah, I heard that too.
Liquid for life, thank you, funky.
Yes, thank you.
Let us know what that hashtag means.
That's right, well, there's some research
behind the scenes.
Yeah.
I'm still trying to think of what it would be.
Wee, two dry?
Wee, two dry?
Wet or dry?
Oh, wet or dry?
Hmm.
Oh, it actually is a W.
I still don't get it, though.
OK.
Well, like, liquid's wet.
OK.
So.
Or dry.
We'll see.
But you could always have your puzzling message for us
to unravel every morning.
Yeah, why not?
Because we're featuring all of these special shout-outs
every morning on Rise and Rage.
You can always feature your blue and Confuse
us at the same time.
Oh, boy, could you ask?
That person's watching like so annoyed at us right now. I'm so sorry. I bet they're just having fun with it
They're like you'll never know
Confusing hashtag and put it in my message and confuse the casters and make them look stupid
Yeah, well, you know what's not confusing some beautiful animals
We've been helping animals a ton of them at the Santa Monica animal shelter onto that one
But unfortunately we have to delay a little bit of the animal pictures first because we got to talk about what's going with that
amazing apparel is gonna be which will probably end up being covered in animal
hair sometime. Probably, mine already is. Yep. I even come here without any of my
animals obviously and I find their hair. I have to bring a hair roller with me.
Right. Smart. Yep. Otherwise, otherwise my cat hair is gonna be all over it. But you
can get your animal hair all over your merch if you go to teal.gg slash store.
We've got the jersey available. We have this lovely liquid-gill derp shirt that
Jack is sporting today available. A hoodie. There's some mouse pads. There's
So shirt, the Team Liquid apparel team
does such a great job of just making
a new little line of apparel, specifically
for the Race World First fans and also people involved,
like us, every single tier.
And here is Elden and Zumin on your shirt.
This was drawn by someone on our staff this time around.
The last one was as well.
Looks like mine.
Looks like mine type of drawing.
Yeah.
Six legs as well, which is accurate, which is cannon.
Oh, true.
It is.
To the actual box.
It is.
Yeah.
Do we have a derpy emote?
We should get just a space in the chat.
Just have that as an emote.
I think so.
Or you know at 7TV you'll have it.
And also, wait, hold on.
Does it have like the, it has the derp, the team liquid,
this is like an official logo that already existed
before we started making this shirt.
And it's kind of like a derpy liquid team liquid logo.
I love it so much.
That's great.
Oh, you surprised me.
You surprised me.
Yeah, you turned around too quickly.
They resumed it.
I'm sorry, I should have covered you.
That was my bad.
I should have just, like, clink, clink, clink.
Don't come out yet.
All right, well, definitely go to teal.gg slash store
if you would like to check it out.
Also, we do have launched our 20th Wow Anniversary Apparel
Collection.
You can go to teal.gg slash Warcraft 20
if you would like to pre-order some of the Sherpas
that you guys saw that had Illidan on it, as well as
there's a concept one for Solvanus.
There's also the Lich King.
There's a lot of other stuff that we've done in collaboration
with World of Warcraft.
Love to be able to see it.
So many things.
Get ready for winter as well.
You may think you may not need it right now,
but when I get that two weeks of winter in Texas,
I'll be wishing I had it.
Yeah, yeah.
And some people have their AC so high,
you might need it as well.
That's true, sometimes they have it in the summertime.
Yeah.
It's about to be like, yeah, I do that in the summertime too.
Call it out, sorry.
Well, let's talk about now we can get to our Animal Shelter
charity fundraiser, the Santa Monica Animal Shelter,
tl.gg slash rwf-donate.
If you'd like to help support our cause,
We are at $13,430, which means we are super close to that $15,000 incentive.
That's right, Twitch is going to be able to play production themselves.
You at home are able to customize your Race to World First viewing experience
alongside the 20,000, 30,000 other people who are all going to be spamming
ones and twos in chat.
You will be able to decide the point of view that you want to see the most.
That sounds like chaos.
It might just be at the back of somebody's head.
Yeah, it could be. It could be anything. You never know.
That's right. You'll be in control onto that one.
We have a crazy amount of castor incentives that we've been working on.
And at $20,000 we'll also be having a date with Zalatath herself.
Ooh. I don't know how we're coordinating that.
They told me it was a surprise, so...
Yeah. They did that a lot to us.
They'd like to make sure they keep us in the dark, so that way we're not like,
oh yeah, it's like this, you know?
That's fair. Yeah.
We did do casters do blindfolded delve last night. I saw that hands and titles
They were sort of coordinating their way through it was only tier one, but it still was really difficult. Oh, really?
Yeah, he played his devastation evoker. So it kind of made it a little bit
I mean it was doable. It worked out shouldn't your rates
Well, maybe you make this suffer out another incentive. If you want to do a tier eight
Blindfolded delve. I don't know who's gonna help you out with that one though. That sounds awful to have to direct
but yeah if you'd like to donate $30 you can have your pet featured on stream
or you can have your transmog featured on stream. We can take a look though at some
of the pets we have had submitted. I gotta say Jack our fans have some of the
cubes pets. We have so many there's a whole new flood of them every day. I
saw a couple of these when we had some extra time to check out pets of course
on broadcast. All of these pets are featured each of the different days
that they've been submitted and we have a full new collage of them every single day.
There's a raccoon in this compilation. There it is. That is not a joke. That was a real
pet that was submitted. I forget his name. Babysitter. Babysitter? That was the name of the
raccoon. I don't know what the context of that is. I don't know if they found it as like a baby
wild and they just kept it or something which I'm pretty sure is illegal but I don't know.
Somebody let me know. We're not reporting that. It's probably legal in Texas to be fair.
I'd hope so I feel like you can know a lot of weird things in Texas. Yeah, we had a lot of raccoons on my college campus
Yeah, they just meet in the trash cans constantly. Oh boy. Yeah, they are there. You go to throw something away
There's just like a raccoon in there
That's fantastic. I worked on my jump shots quite a bit. I love a good habitualized animal. Wow, that's yeah
All right, $30 like I said for your transmog rating or you can put your pet on stream
Apparently, this is really confusing for some people
So if you take a look at that, if you look at the message,
you can submit a link of your transpog or your pet
if you'd like to help us raise money for the Santa Monica
Animal Shelter again, that is $30.
So thank you so much to everyone
that has supported our amazing foundation so far.
They were in the other day, and they were so, so, so grateful.
I got an email last night about how grateful they were.
Oh, great.
Yeah.
We'd love to be able to see it.
We were interviewing Taylor, and she brought in Simba
Sr.
Simba Sr.
I'm going to use three years old,
which I remember correctly.
Big boy.
Very big boy, very excitable.
Still need to home.
Went into a brand new environment with lots of people,
lots of noise, and we're just happy to see everybody
and play.
Yeah, yeah, so if you'd like to adopt Simba
or any of the other animals that are available
at the Santa Monica Animal Shelter,
teal.gg slash adopt, we are going to feature
one of them every day.
And this morning, we have a very handsome guy, Jack.
Here is Roger.
Aww.
Look at him.
White Korean Jindo mix, I've never heard of that.
Same.
Beautiful dog, nonetheless.
Staff thinks he's about a year and eight months old.
He's been to the shelter since August of 2023,
and that is more than a year, which is very, very sad.
Lovable goofball, super friendly, loves to give kisses
and has a lot of playful energy.
Oh man.
Look, he's been there for that long.
He looks so happy.
I know.
You can just see how fluffy his coat is as well.
that he loved to be able to play it all day long.
I'm sure they also are always looking for volunteers
who wanna just go around and play with the animals
and play with all the dogs as well.
Yeah, get them some enrichment time.
That's right, that's what they call it,
some enrichment time.
So you can always go to tl.gg slash adopt
if you're interested in adopting some new animals.
But even if you have some free time
and you're local into the area
and wanna just spend some time with some dogs
and even some of the cats and kittens
that they have on hand,
I'm sure they would love to have your support.
Yeah, our donations last year we raised,
I think it was $26,000 for the Santa Monica Animal Shelter.
We were told that, amongst all of the other things,
like tropic and release programs,
and help getting surgery for some of the intake animals,
one of the major things that they were able to do
was build a play area for the animals,
because they're at capacity right now,
25 dogs they have.
And of course, like we were saying,
especially with dogs like Roger,
it's very important to help get them
some play time in Richmond Times,
so they're not just stuck in their cages all day.
We hope you guys help us do that.
That's right, and it helps a lot for making them
more compatible with incoming families
or incoming people who are looking to adopt
when they're already very used to getting out and planning,
getting out and moving around.
They're not cooped up all day or anything like that.
Helps them also be more sociable
with all the other dogs they have going on too.
And socializing is always really fun.
They get to learn a little bit more about each other
just like at the Race to World first.
We get to learn a lot more about all the Raiders.
Yeah, we had some fun facts that emerged yesterday.
I learned that yips is a baker, days are condensed,
Nick is a Swifty, all kinds of things from our next segment
which is Guess the Guilty.
Jack and I are gonna once again attempt to guess the Guilty,
guess along with us, chat, no cheating.
Let's see the first one and see if we can get it.
That's right, keep in mind some of these
we've already guessed and so there's a number of them
that we've already seen thus far.
The first one is gonna be just where I am
by Kid Kelly, that's a banger song.
That is a better song.
That's a really motivating song too.
Sure is.
I don't have any guesses from this one though.
Do we have a list of who we've already guessed?
I forgot it.
Sorry.
We have a, maybe, you know what?
Oh, I hear this.
Can I guess KSP?
I'm gonna guess KSP.
I don't know, it seems like a kid-cutting guy.
Yeah, final answer.
Jersey Mike's 13.
I will actually go there at least once a week.
Okay. This might be someone...
This Max?
You know...
Oh, thanks.
We've already guessed Nick.
Yeah.
We've already guessed Nick.
I believe we've already had Yips.
Hmm.
We already had Yips.
Um, why don't we go to the next clue?
Do you want to go to the next clue?
Yeah, let's go to the next clue.
Let's go to the next clue.
Healer.
Healer.
Dryne.
Yeah, it's got to be...
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah! What a banger a song too.
Fave boss Ilgenoth non-cheese strat, Nyeloka or Holandrus.
Oh that's huge! Okay so this is crazy. God this is such a dry need to set up as well.
Ilgenoth and Holandrus both are just crazy holy paladin fights.
Yeah.
Ilgenoth notably had all these players debuff that you basically have to heal, like spot
heal them through the whole mechanic and if like somebody died they basically like
wipe out the raid.
So massive, massive emphasis on the spot healing capabilities
of the Holy Paladin player.
Notably, Holy Paladin with the ineffable torment,
corruptions back in the day, made it so huge for them
to just blast tons of holy shocks,
glimmer healing, the works.
Elandris, wouldn't need I say more.
Crazy amount of work there by the Holy Paladin players.
Hidden talent, hockey, golfing, baseball, football,
and of course, biking, running.
And I knew a few things about cows.
Well, we're gonna think about that a little bit later.
I've already asked him about it.
He genuinely knows, he knows all of the cow breeds.
Yeah, he is an everyman.
He knows so many things about so many different tops.
That's a well-rounded guy.
Also, a poor one out for James, Enzi, Eric, and Vade.
Very nice.
Yes, he's a great guy.
Who are you missing?
You can very much see how ingrained into the culture
and ingrained into the guilt
that trying has been over the years.
Love him. We were talking about healing. He came into the castor room the other day.
We just started talking about healing for half an hour and everything.
Oh, really? Yeah.
Well, he just came to say hi.
Yeah, he just came in to say hi and just wanted to hang out.
Absolutely.
Not a lot of the players do that, which is totally fine, of course.
They're very focused. They don't need to talk to us.
That's fine. They got a job to do, so do we.
Absolutely.
He had a little bit of downtime and just wanted to come in and hang out.
So, love to be able to see it.
And I think we have one more guilty to guest today.
We did that one too fast. We're going to sneak in a third one here.
Let's see how we do.
All right.
fried chicken sandwich or something similar.
Okay.
That does not narrow it down.
I was gonna say.
Mm.
Mm.
Let's, have we had your cube yet?
No, we got your cube.
Let's do our cube.
Okay.
Dang.
All right.
I tend to listen to vocal trance
or old Taylor Swift songs,
something like back to December,
the way I loved you by her.
Wow, that is very specific.
Who else would, okay.
Vocal trance, um, I was on somebody's string the other day and they were listening to trance.
Who was that?
They were out.
They were benched.
Impec?
Have we had Impec?
Impec listens to like metal on his string.
But do you want to guess Impec?
Uh, okay, if you listen to metal on a string then we won't have that.
So...
Could it be...
Have you had a trail listening to any, um, vocal trance?
I don't know, I feel like Trilla
seems to just in game music, but I could be wrong.
Okay.
Maybe Splat?
Let's try Splat.
Dang.
Okay.
Okay.
DPS, all right, not done too much.
You know what?
Atlas, have we had Atlas?
We've already had Atlas.
I feel like this has gotta be an EU player.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because the fact that they didn't say
what type of fried chicken, like from where,
that could be it.
Yeah.
Let's see, Siri?
No, we already have Siri.
Did we already have Siri?
No, he's our hard-to-end AP, and he's also a healer.
I'm going to, oh, it says World DPS, I miss that, I miss that.
Okay.
It's not saying, it's saying listen to in-game music.
Tobo? Tobo.
No, we already had Tobo.
Oh my gosh, okay, okay.
I know, we've gone to about 14 games in this setting.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh, who was it?
I, okay, I think it's Impact.
Okay, Impact.
Are you crazy?
You ready to mine?
Okay.
One more clue.
Heroic Ragnaros, older player, been around the block.
Who was it?
That was a person.
It's somebody that was here.
Hmm, yep, morning.
Goop? Is it Goop?
Is it Goop?
Give us Goop.
Goop just walked in.
Oh, you're good.
We're guessing.
Go ahead, Goop.
Sorry, he just turned around like, what?
I'm proficient at SQL and I know my way around a database.
Bart?
I don't think it's Bart.
You mean the analysts?
Bubba?
Analyst? Analyst.
Oh, right, because it's DPS. I keep thinking.
You even said that.
Uh...
Who the heck?
What is SQL, first of all?
Code? Language?
Code things.
Code things.
Have we guessed ribbons yet?
No.
Ribbons?
Yes.
Dang.
Oh, my God.
Who just stumped us?
I asked you about Trill.
Oh my gosh, you're so right.
I'm so sorry.
I did not think he listened to music.
Man, I trusted you on that one.
You did.
You had more background.
You're like, nah, it's not Trill.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm going my own path next time.
My bad.
That's right.
Trill is my teammate for the MidiPlus Pro Am Charity.
Then you should have known better than me.
I didn't ask when he was listening to Max Trill and I crushed it, though.
I'm proud of you.
Yeah, that was a blast.
Also God speed to Trill.
I had a snack team to be fair.
You sure did.
You did.
It's very true.
Yeah.
Currently, uh, practicing for both AWC and this fight.
So that's a lot on one man.
It is.
And he's handled it with grace.
Keep in mind, Trill was the last new player to get brought into on Nexus
Princess Kaiveza and then through a handful of poles he figured out how he wanted to set up his
defenses. He asked for help when he needed to, trying to figure out how we could survive some of
the awful combinations and mechanics that could happen on the encounter and directly was leading
to that boss getting crushed. He was like top five in DPS, something like that. It was great.
Dude's a machine. All right, well that's going to end the segment for now. We are going to
come back a little bit later, just a little bit. We're going to get some food. We're going to
head over to the other sofas over there and we're gonna get in hopefully on some
silken cord. Oh, I believe maybe. Well, that's pretty streaming it. I think that
they're gonna go right in. We'll hope so. Well, let's you know. We'll cross that
bridge when we get there. But in the meantime, thank you so much for watching.
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Everybody and good morning. Welcome back to the race to
world. First, we are progressing on mythic, the
silken cord. My name is I am here with sirenic and
automatic jack. Hello. Good morning. You got your
blankie.
Good morning.
Blank it up.
We're cozyed up this morning.
Yeah, we're cozyed up. It's a little chilly. It's a
little chilly outside too. It's like rainy and
humid and gray outside. I feel like I'm back in
Ohio.
I love it too soon.
I love it. We need a little bit of moisture in the
air. I'm feeling a lot better for it. I love the
cool weather.
I'm so too used to the hot Texas weather. I like the the chilly mornings
Yeah, especially in the evening, you know, we're walking back to the hotel after the day
You're having like crazy hot weather in Texas at night and everything
It's like the ground is just like simmering with heat. Yeah, it's nice walking home and getting some rest. It's all cool outside
Yeah, I'm still not used to
Like Ohio where it stays warm at night like it's it's it's very weird
My brain doesn't compute that like the sun or the moon is out and yet it's still warm. It's very odd
So it's nice to be back in a desert climate where it's nice and cold
Mm-hmm at night
But that being said before we get into talking about this mythic product that we are currently working on do have to give a
Mention to our lovely sponsors
Of course of course coinbase our presenting partner as well as secret lab monster energy alienware or radar IO
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Those guys are giving us all the updates on the other guilds that are progging as well
So if you'd like some coverage on somebody besides liquid echo or method definitely go over there and check them out and
Also, let's talk about our charity for just a little bit. We did mention it during the morning show, but we'll catch the ironic up
There's a lot of there's a lot of puppies. We've got a nice calculation. Yeah, we'll let you know
On the problem there. We've got 13,430 dollars is where we currently are we could potentially if we really sell out to our audience guys
get to 15,000 within this casting block.
He definitely can.
Okay, I can sell that.
We're good at that.
We can do that.
We're professional.
I think we could.
Well, let's make that our goal, maybe,
within this casting block.
I don't know if we want to set a mini-goal.
Do we want to set a mini-goal
if we get to 15,000?
I don't know.
We can fix something up.
As long as it's not ingesting spicy pickles.
No.
No.
I don't think we'll be doing any of that over here.
Lady of the Tram style.
I don't even know, what is the lore behind the pickles over there, does that even know?
I'm not sure.
All I saw were the screenshots and it didn't look great.
They're also doing the spicy chip challenge and they're making a bunch of British people
do that.
I don't think their palette is very accustomed to spicy food at all.
We have British people doing a spicy chip challenge.
I just know that OK Mage and I believe Preach both did the spicy chip, like the one
chip challenge.
Pretty sure like a regular pepper chip would be spicy to them.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I don't think it went very well for them. I think like barbecue sauce was too spicy for her
Hey, we have barbecue for lunch. Don't we? Yeah, we did. Yeah, a lot of British people in the facility here
It's like two or three of them. Luckily there's no British people. I'm just saying otherwise
Otherwise, you would have to adjust her menu
Yeah, we've got we've got from that region
from that area that area I Brexit Brooke I don't I don't get I don't know how it
works anymore but you know we've got Scott Scottish you've got KSP Birmingham
we've got Tobo don't know what area he's from do I know you guys know they
probably this worries from yeah and then we've got a couple people on staff as
well it's got Scottish please for each person so just keep them away from the
barbecue sauce that's spicy barbecue sauce maybe which of them it is that's
These are okay-mages words. I was listening this morning and she said that they did I think it was like a thing that kind of it was like
It was like um, what's the show the hot ones hot ones? Yeah, I kind of get progressively spicier
She was saying that the first one was too spicy for her. I think is what she said huh?
Yeah, the first one was too spicy
Someone should someone the first one is like Frank's hot sauce. Oh, okay, which might be too spicy for some people
I don't know my grandma doesn't like pepperoni, but she's from Nebraska. So I don't know
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know we can get into that later. Luckily. We have no spicy challenges on our maybe we do a spicy
Yes here though with our we'll figure it out. We have a lot of time to talk in the meantime. Let's take a look at our coin based
leaderboard echo and method and liquid currently all
Broggy all-in-silk in the mythic court wait whoa mythic silken court at the same time zero
Yeah, we had a kill for Meco about eight hours ago now, the method got their kill on Princess about three hours ago
They've been progressing on stream on those bosses for the past few hours or so each so a little bit more information to go off
On top of what the Raiders were learning last night as I'm sure you guys have seen Raider IO updated us with some
Good Racer World first information last night
They were talking about how liquid was pulling the boss off stream with half the raid size
So we're let there are less of the moats that they had to worry about that could progress further into the fight
See more of the mechanics
So even though they might not have progressed much percentage wise,
I'm sure they learned a lot of the timers,
which is kind of exciting for us to talk about because it looks like we are in
polls. Oh no. We feel too long.
We did our job too well. We did do our job too well.
Look at that.
Heading into the first poll of the morning.
Take a look at Nick's POV poll number 58 for a silken court.
All right, we'd love to be able to see it.
Poles are getting underway, and while a lot of these mechanics are going to look very similar to what we've experienced onto Heroic,
the big mythic mechanic throws a massive wrench into the mix, having two different groups, one assigned blue, one assigned red,
and each of the teams is going to be spawning orbs relative to their color that need to be soaked within a certain amount of time,
Otherwise they explode and debuff the opposing side.
You can see all the orbs spawning right now.
So Red Team from the Nick POV needs to soak at least,
or it needs to soak all of the orbs,
but you can soak a maximum of two at a time.
And the debuff is around like 20, 30 seconds
or something like that before it falls off.
So you can only soak so many, so frequently.
And then the teams have to make sure
that Red Team doesn't touch blue and vice versa.
You're constantly soaking these orbs around the room.
The rain's gonna go out once again.
spawning more orbs onto all of these players and then the teams have to shift once more to start soaking more of those orbs
So spawning the webs on the ground here as well
We're gonna get our pairs ready for the next charge you can see we've got three of those pairs
No longer get away with one or two like you can on normal or heroic
And we'll make sure we have all three of those alive for the charge
Looks like players have went down to either the fixed-aid damage or some of the residual damage of the fight
And we can see even though the mechanics
looks somewhat simple and similar to heroic. Of course it's mythic, it's all ramped up
and having to constantly worry about not running into one of the opposite colored players or
soaking too many motes is going to be a thorn on the side for the players for pretty much
the entire fight.
It will, especially as positioning gets very tight, you're going to have entire sides
or teams that are going to be almost stacked on top of each other and having to soak
only at a maximum of two orbs. If you soak a third orb, you die and you can no longer
be rezed.
I think that's what we had to do with on Beta. I believe it's still the same. It is the
same still.
Okay.
For that, you have to really make sure your positioning is precise so you can soak up
to two orbs, let the debuff fall off, and then soak two more afterwards. There's
a lot of pressure onto that positioning and you're probably going to see near-like
chain pulls, I would say, for the first, you know, 20-30 minutes just to make
sure that they're going to get this early positioning down, since this first phase sequencing
should be almost the exact same every single time.
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure this is some of the first real pulls they put into the boss
with 20 players. You saw them pull it, you know, for maybe half an hour, or a couple
hours I'd say, after lunch, and then they had a pretty long pull, and I believe they
said something along the lines of, we would gain so much more time just talking about
what we saw, rather than just chain pulling. So that's what they did. They took time
off, they went into Mythic Plus, they went into the raid with 10 people, learned mechanics,
learned timing, so they could set up the door, set up all of their cooldowns for a large
amount of the burst damage coming throughout the fight.
Right, and that's one of the big factors they're going to have to watch for for this
is how do they make sure they're practicing, especially the first phase into the second
phase near perfectly every single time, because as these phases progress, they first are
are starting with pretty basic mechanics.
We saw it a heroic of having to make sure
that your clothes line in the beetle,
making sure he doesn't hit the wall,
and going into like the second and third phases,
they start combining more of these mechanics together.
The fight ramps up in difficulty
over the course of the encounter.
And as you can see, making sure the positioning
is almost the exact same every single time
is enormously important.
It's also funny to talk about,
there were nerfs to this fight this morning,
not necessarily nerfs, actually more buffs.
Oh yeah, actually yes, um changes is what I was originally going to say. I
Got a little bit of a leak last night talking about how
It thought that the damage check wasn't really that bad if you didn't run the normal amount of tanks on the fight
Then of course this morning we saw both we saw mostly echo running a one tank method
So both guilds were thinking of using a one-take method once again on this fight and
They're not happy
We had this morning
to the tank buster on the beetle.
Yeah, the pierce.
Yeah, to stinging swarm. Stinging swarm now deals...
What's up?
It's the next one is the tank buster.
Oh, you wanted me to do the tank buster. Piercing strike.
Yeah, I was just gonna read it all, but no, I shouldn't.
Piercing strike now pierces through death.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's a minute long, so there's like no way you can
actually ever one tank this fight
unless somehow a DPS can live it. But also the stinging swarm thing is a nice
It's a nice bug fix because there's like a weird problem, it's like tick rate related
where sometimes you could dispel the debuff and the boss wouldn't get disoriented and
that's something that really can't happen on Mythic, so they made a change to help out
with that.
Yeah, it also made it so that the dot is going to tick a little bit faster too, which
at least from a healer POV, makes it a lot easier to understand the damage intake
for the players.
It's smoother, right?
It's smoother, exactly.
Less chunky, there's going to be other damage events happening at the same time
And so, sort of mentally, once you start recording how much damage somebody's usually taking to those debuffs,
makes it a lot easier to sort of like track it from an output point of view.
Nobody's getting like a big chunk of health lost every second.
It's every half second now that it's ticking, making it a little bit more steady.
Here we have the beginning of our first of the intermission phases
where our tall spindly friend is putting up a shield
and of course marking the different high sizes of the room with their Voidwebs.
Yeah, and of course the main thing here is the boss is gonna be pulsing for a large amount of AoE damage.
Every single one of those pulses,
gonna drop moats on the ground that you have to go soak.
In addition to that, the entire time we're trying to burst this shield down, right?
The longer the shield stays up, the higher the damage ramps.
More moats you have to soak, which means you're gonna be falling further and further behind in this phase.
It's a constant movement phase.
We're soaking moats, dodging frontals,
and you have to find a way to break through this shield.
And you can see this is going to be a big prog point for the team to work through.
Absolutely will. And you can already see how important positioning is on the encounter as well
when you have entire piles of players getting the red orbs dropped off or the blue orbs dropped off.
And it's important to note that when a orb is not soaked, it detonates applying a one-stack debuff to everybody of the opposing team.
So as you see, Siri is on red team, for example.
If a blue orb is not soaked, then one blue stack is applied to every member of the red team.
If they reach three stacks, and these stacks persist through death, by the way,
they reach three stacks, they die, and they cannot be res for the rest of the encounter.
And as a result, you're probably gonna have a good chunk of progression here,
where red team lives, or blue team lives.
If orbs are missed, if they're not soaked, if too many of them are spawned, for example,
and nobody can soak them, they can detonate and wipe out the whole raid.
Also, sacrificial jumps into an orb or something like that.
Sound cool and all, but then that person is out of the fight forever.
So, I actually don't know the answer to this.
And I wonder if maybe this is something they tested in some of their testing runs.
What prevents you from just having all 20 people go into one color at the start of the fight?
I think there's some like balance or something like that.
Oh, okay, so that's what it is. Thank you, TX.
Perfect timing, literally, of having TX coming walk by five if the question gets asked.
It's just walking by with this coffee. We wrote them a new answer question at the beginning of the encounter
There's two fields by each of the bosses to mark the different teams
But if there's over 10 players that are getting marked by a specific buff
There's over 10 red team players for example, then the entire way Raid just wipes
No cheating for you because otherwise yeah, I would potentially trivialize the encounter or would trivialize the encounter
I really thought of everything, didn't I?
It really, well good, because it seems like they might have.
They didn't think of the one tank, but they fixed that right quick.
We loved to be able to see it, yep.
We knew going into beta testing for this encounter that it was going to be one of
the hardest fights ever, and we just dealt with Princess Kaiveza with a total, a whopping
total of 304 poles to bring that boss fight down.
getting into the good stuff. I mean in Princess Cavesa we can't stress enough
how much of an outlier that type of boss is a non-inultimate or final boss in a
raid over 300 pulls. You are in Laundress territory. We have that pull count and
that is obviously something that we made a big deal out of when it was a
thing a couple years ago back in Boston. Yeah the weird thing about Cavesa
really compared to Halandrus. We've had, you know, Halandrus, Painsmith in the
Sanctum Domination Raid, we had Gorefiend in the Hellfire Citadel Raid. It wasn't
too much of an anomaly having these huge wall bosses in like the middle and I
guess technically, you know, there were some easy fights in the other wing, for
example, in Sepelker, but most people just did all those fights before they
did Halandrus, and in the case of like Painsmith, you had Guardian of the
first ones which is pretty walk-over boss and then you had a couple more like
mechanical challenges trying to remember the name of the big ghosty guy in
Sanctum of Domination color of color fake color of color yeah
yeah Alice is a really good impression of I'm Betty does he you would have some
easier fights coming into it but the weird thing about Nexus Princess is
that it's not the penultimate boss but it's leading up to them and is
still a crazy mountain decline there's no free looping out is after this one yeah
there really wasn't anything to there wasn't any like palate cleanser exactly
the pain Smith-Rasnoe or Gorphine you know a lot of us in the case had him
before really the fight happened he went a day into it right after that was a
gauntlet a laundress and doing Lords of dread right yeah I think Lord of Dread
was like maybe a very very very slight palette cleanser and you know then you go
into raglan it's like oh raglan did give us some of the best screenshots of a
bunch of angels at the same time it really did that was a fun fight that
was an incredibly fun fight lots of spot healing lots of holy priests just
Spamming heel over and over and over again
We're just taking a quick break between poles here doing overstract discussion stuff figuring out what are these need any to do
And this is kind of what we're going to expect for a lot of this fight where
We're still figuring out a lot of exactly what needs to happen here. You know, there are
specific movements for groups that will need to go down for you know for instance
for that intermission that we just saw they're probably talking about exactly
what they're planning for damage cooldowns for that shield because I'm sure that
shield is quite massive I I don't know if we know exactly how big the shield is
yet maybe they have a week for week or four we can keep on one of their streams
but yeah so it's like a while to get through it will and as you mentioned the
week or a four it fired up also had a week or a tracking the damage check
that they needed for Princess Kaveza so it'd be great to see something
Similar so that we could track how much damage is going there. I know
I know evokers in general have an ability that deals bonus damage to shields
Is there any other classes or specs in the game that have something like that?
This priest does, but we're not seeing this priest here
On the level of unravel I can't think of anything that's not insane. I mean like lawyers have still have shattering throw
I believe so. Is that is that still a big deal? I'm not sure how much that does. It used to be huge
but
I think for the size of the shields they're running the only thing that's really gonna do spammable increased damage to shields would be
Okay, yeah, I was wondering especially if there's any other opportunities to change around comp diversity or something
The reason I brought this priest was it's coming from their hero talents where they deal don't bonus damage to shields
and so with
Lots of different hero talent and spec combinations available
it would have been interesting to see if certain like niche classes or something
were brought just to help with the shield breaks. But the other more important
thing I would argue is the damage vulnerability phase, making you
bring certain DPS specs. Yeah, this is where your arcane is gonna pop off. This
is where your, you know, your roads are gonna pop off, your evokers are gonna pop
off. Just 10 seconds of free double damage to the boss in your cooldowns
is gonna be huge. Even hands, if it starts proccing a little bit there,
going to do a ton of damage. This is a fight where Hans actually always seems to top the
meters. Wow! Look at the damage meters there. You might wonder, what's Impec doing up there?
Checking PC. That is not normally. Man. Well, why do they simply not stack enhancement
shavings? That is a good question. I do not know. And it was one of the questions
I was asking during Kaveissa because that was a class that was constantly topping and
I guess they figured they didn't really need it, but we actually did see Ekko swap in a second enhanced shaman for their kill
The princess guy best said it was many on the enhanced shaman. He actually he actually topped the kill
Hundreds less poles than the other players. Oh, they have hearty who can play it. I'm sure savvy could play it too
But they haven't been feeling on the evoker right now
But they have a couple other gear shaman options they could run on this fight
Of course, Impact still doing uh...
It's just a solid bigger chunk than the next DPS under him.
Just you know, 70 million more damage than the next player, all good.
Yeah, what a...
Yeah, no biggie.
No biggie.
Wait, you are right, that's crazy.
What about Impact's damage?
No, they have steady healing on the evoker instead of maybe.
Yeah, that was something I noticed because something they were talking about doing yesterday
they went dark was potentially doing a mythic first four boss splits on some of their alts
that didn't kill any of the bosses on mythic this time around that they might want to run next week
and a prime candidate for that would have been Zasevi on the evoker but i guess they just
decided not to do that yeah that's fascinating especially since our expectations at least are
that this boss kill is going into the next reset since we had already expended all of our
Vantus runes on next Princess Capazza. There's a lot of mechanics to get through onto this
encounter before they start seeing the end of the fight with the best pull by Echo at
the moment with 56%.
Yeah, if Enhance is going to be doing that every pull, I see no reason not to bring a
second one in.
Yeah.
The only problem with Enhance is, so the main thing that was really strong for
Elastic expansion obviously was one Fury Totem. That's now just a great wide buff,
so that's not as big of a deal now.
They don't bring any major defensive value to the raid,
so looking at their melee comp that they have in right now,
they've got Double Warrior, which is extremely strong on Cleave already.
Brings rallying, Cryo, which is pretty solid.
And of course, it's just overall a relatively team piece back in general.
Got a Havoc Demon Hunter. They need that for the debuff.
They've got a Rogue. They need that for a traffic poison.
And what do you swap in for the second advance?
It's really just kind of like a too many good things to have in the raid question.
But I feel like if it's going to do that much damage, you have to find a way to get a second one in.
Right, and that could be something that are keeping in the back of their minds.
Is what if we have another enhance at the ready, but maybe they need to do a little bit more of a plus.
Maybe we just get to gear it up a little bit more with an extra clear.
Because maybe they got a couple pieces, but not enough to be as powerful as what we have in the raid right now.
Also, I do want to mention a couple questions coming in from chat about where the health bar is for the boss
that we usually have in the little frame at the bottom of the screen.
I believe we're still working on it. You know, this is a new boss.
So we're getting everything nice and coordinated before we throw it up there.
So don't worry! It is coming. Trust in our production team.
Chances are if there's ever something that's not on screen that's usually on screen, they're trying to make it work for a new income.
Yeah.
Yes.
Let them work through it.
Yeah, it's a better idea.
I don't believe we also have the other phase markers as well, right?
And so that takes a little bit of time to make sure that you can instantly have these things updated
It's not somebody behind the screens pushing the button to push it to the next phase. They're automating it
They're creating it. I thought Wardjep was typing in the HP every time. Yeah, he's sitting there manually updating it
Percentage point by percentage point. That'd be a cool job
That'd be a horrible job.
The deaths used to be manual on MDI, I don't know if anyone else-
Oh yeah, I remember that.
Did not sound fun.
The instantaneous math of like, oh I actually had five deaths instead of four deaths.
I had to make sure you get that all set up.
Oh yeah.
I remember when we were in person in Columbus back in the day at MLG,
We would do replay-offs for the
For the show it was fun because we would sit in the control room
We had like the scoreboard guy to our left and you can look at the scoreboard and every time a death happened button press
Bob. Oh, Bob. What if they miss one?
Why she a couple times if they added too many and they don't like to use abstraction really fast
They like spam the button really quick. Yeah. Oh, that's good times. You can see they're still keep coordinating
still actually figuring out some of the positioning. Well, there's some of this
stress, I think that naturally happens from chatters at times, like oh like that
goes ahead in the race now, like oh man, like one of the biggest things I'd point
out is that there's the expectation at least unless there's like crazy low
amounts of boss health, which doesn't seem to be the case. This goes into the
next reset and that this is really where the marathon begins. This is
really where the execution for every little bit of this strategy positioning
avoiding having unnecessary wipes, avoiding having orbs detonating, makes a massive impact.
And so the progression and the work they're doing right now is paying dividends later on
when they re-clear on Tuesday, when they're getting all their other splits done,
and then when they're hopping back into the boss.
There's a lot of ground to be gained for any of the top three guilds
through the sheer execution of these mechanics,
as opposed to Princess Cavesa, where sometimes you'd have to like roll the dice, get a good pull.
Yeah, I just had like a brief moment of clarity when you said this is where the marathon begins. You're actually actually so right
These these these last two bosses are gonna. Sorry
The last few bosses are going to be very difficult
Yeah, I think I think on the pace on the on the par with with nexus princess kind of confess. I mean that boss was
Difficult in a different way to this boss. I think right. I mean, yeah, like you said mechanically is gonna be
extremely hard to learn for all 20 players the movement is going to be
extremely choreographed so if there's ever a person out of place it's going to
mess with someone else's movement it could cause you to get hit by one of the
frontals in that first intermission could cause you to get hit by one of the
circles in the second intermission from the beetle doing the earthquakes kind of
similar to Siegecrafter from back in the day it's a it's gonna be very
planned out and they're going to have to be very meticulous with the way
they set up they will and they have to keep in mind that each of these
phases is slightly different. As opposed to Nexus Princess Kaiveza which had basically two phases
that would cycle between and be the exact same thing on repeat until you get into the final
intermission burn. Each of these phases adds an additional mechanic. In the first phase we were
seeing the clothesline for the beetle getting added into the mix. In the second phase we're
dealing with the stinging swarm that must be dispelled to disorient the boss. Then later
on to the encounter. They're combining both of those in the same exact phase with a lot
more to dodge coming from the void webs which were featured in the intermission phase as
well. Look at the size of the amount of different abilities that are tracked in their timeline.
On other fights, we saw like three or four abilities. On this one, there's like 12.
The max caught out directly behind Boomi. That's menacing.
You're just standing there.
No, that's actually Max.
It just looks like a cutout.
Oh, my bad.
You're right.
Sorry.
It's hard to tell sometimes.
Oh, it's a new face, too.
Yeah.
I can't tell.
Which one is the real?
Will we look genuinely terrified?
I mean, I would, too, if Max is lurking behind me.
Me, too.
Lurking behind me.
Bit of a jump scare.
Yeah.
Also, keep in mind, this fight could have less pulls than Nexus Princess Kaveza,
but it'd be a much more difficult encounter.
and much more time-consuming encounter, too.
It's a longer fight.
So similar to Brutus or Ovenax,
even if they have the same amount of poles as Nexus Princess,
they could spend an extra few hours in progress time
on this boss because you have to remember the first 150
or so poles on Nexus Princess
were all like two or three minute poles.
And on this fight, it looks like phase one
is not really gonna be the brunt of their concerns.
We've already been seeing them getting out
of that first phase pretty easily.
We've already been seeing Echo method
getting out of that first phase more consistently as well.
And it seems like the beginning of the fight
is gonna be the exact same every single time.
You're not gonna have to really worry too much about,
okay, the boss jumped here, the boss jumped there.
It's going to be about the exact same every single time,
which places even greater importance
for them mapping out their positioning
for when they get to the second phase
or when they get into the next intermission after that
or the final phase,
because there is going to be fewer and fewer attempts
to that to get it right once you get there.
and that all eats up the precious ray time
presumably they've got a lot of timers for this fight they must have seen
a majority of it
last night
yeah in order to have the timers that they have other otherwise it'd be
how would they even do those timers work if they're heroic or they're for mythic
they must have a good plan set in motion because
they've been talking for a while here they might be talking about the next phase
i don't know
could we
it would actually be nice to hear what they're talking about right now
I don't mind their point.
I don't mind their point.
Oh, wow.
They just heard what you said.
They're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no monster energy listen in just yet.
Yeah, I would be interested to know what they've been discussing, because you guys have already
said there's a lot, a lot to work through.
But I mean, you know, the bulk of the mechanics, I was saying this this morning,
the bulk of the mechanics that you're going to see throughout the fight are kind
of in the beginning, front loaded a bit.
So once you, once we have that consistency, I expect to see some pretty chunky
progression for this morning in YAR.
Oh yeah, some, uh, throw that, what is it called, what is it called, is it type shit,
emo?
Yeah, let's, let's throw that in.
We also have the alternating energy bars.
That is some fancy tech right there.
Yeah.
New tech.
Takaj, which is the tall spindly guy, he has the blue energy bar on the bottom
left.
Yep.
This is the big ol' Beetle looking dude, has the orange energy bar.
Yeah, Longboy and Beetle.
Yes.
The orange energy bar is, of course, for the charge mechanic, if I'm not mistaken.
And the blue bar is for?
I was hoping you would know.
At this phase, I don't actually know what the blue bar is for.
I'm pretty sure that this is going to be leading to the intermission phase for T'Kaj.
I'll be keeping an eye on that just to make sure.
It's one of those things where you know the mechanics that are going to be happening
And then you're just trying to remember the trigger exactly for it, because you're usually looking at
cross-timers and not really the energy levels.
Well, let's see. It might just be the time for the intermission gap, I think you're right.
Is it either HP-based or time-based?
Right.
And I want to say that it's time-based, because I don't think there's too many...
Especially if they were bringing in a reduced raid size,
and having that reduced raid size testing out deeper into the encounter,
then there's even less likelihood that it would be health-based.
Oh, no, what I meant is it can be either whichever one triggers first.
Oh, that is fast. I think it auto pushes at 75, it auto-intermissions at 75.
Ah, the blue bar might just be it saying, okay, that's enough P1. Time for the intermission.
Mm-hmm, that's fair.
One of the additional challenges here is that when you try to build the fight to be the same thing every single time,
it's also dependent on everyone's positioning as well.
Alright, well, let's head into the comms, see what they're listening to, see what they're talking about.
We're gonna listen to them with a monster energy listen in
As a priority probably
Yeah, we'll save an array the end of the ball. So if you have any recurred
No, I left for the two in the corner, but someone swiped them like zero point one before me
So we were two going for both of them. So everyone doesn't need to go to the corner, right? It should be like a couple
These if there's anything you guys can do well
It's making sure that these that these soaks are like exactly consistent and always the same
I feel like normally like four or five in the corner, so we need at least like three going for the corner
But that's correct
There will be that many in the corner because Excel and I are getting the bomb and there's three people dropping venomous rain there
So there should be five. I mean on that soak everyone can pre-spread to the right because the venomous rain is like
five seconds before rotate so everyone every male is just try to
Like sweep while running right and if you get to you stay still
Yeah. Okay, we go. I wish the orbs had like a
Hollanderous level animation above them that showed when they are blowing up like a timer,
because that would make this that specific part 10 times easier because you would just
soak the priority bombs, you know, you'd have infinite time to do the other one. You
could literally let your debuff reset to soak the next ones.
Yeah, they have that sword graphic falling, but it's no one years to see.
we are rotating in just kidding.
Three, two, one, now there's a frontal in five blue team.
I would like a big week's change after this poll.
I need to talk about big weeks and week or another poll
to someone remind me.
Okay, rain rotating soon.
Three, two, one.
Oh, that's one of our old blue.
I got it.
Oh my God.
We're losing him.
Alright Scott, yep.
Good.
Gives us a new position. He adds spawns in 5.
And into a venomous terrain, these adds need to instantly get in. Make sure you're close enough range.
Like barrage.
Yeah. Alright, get these adds under and spread for rain.
Nice.
We're not rotating yet.
Start looking at the orbs.
We're rotating in 3, 2, 1, now. Go.
Or we're going up in six five four three two one good
Sure, I mean she cut your spots if you can early yeah room for people to go in the men
They're in diamond. Yeah, yeah a little baby spread
Yeah, and you're rotating
It's the same right?
What?
I'm just gonna... yeah
There's more of a bit of left there
Down a healer here, no matter
Alright
Either you have assist, you'd probably be good to mark that line
What?
Two diamonds
What is so big?
One to the right, one to the right
That should do it
Let's still make P2
What?
Yeah, the ranged people have to get used to the lineups
Which line did he say?
It's a little purple's way off like five yards like here for me.
So I'll give you what's in your sides, in your sides, in your sides.
Yeah, go to your sides, guys.
Get together, get together, get together.
We're doing one more Texas and then give us your web bomb partners.
If they're still alive, first group that gets sucked goes hard, right,
hard left, second groups goes forward, like forward, forward left reds.
First is there for dry forward left.
Good.
Explode out, so chords.
So chords, so chords, they're blowing up in 5.
One other boss, blue on this boss.
Alright.
Okay, uh, teleboss is teleporting, and we're going middle, and then we do...
Do you guys see dispelled reminders, really?
I see them in 5.
I see them in 4.
Do you guys see you are getting dispelled next?
Yeah, I've seen that since.
I don't see anything, so that's...
Also, there's some shit about, like, having to press your mic or something for disball.
That hasn't been added yet.
It counts down you have the spell so it shows two.
Yeah that means there's two people or there's like one in front of you.
As soon as you're one it says get the spell now.
So we should actually just look at a VOD and have everyone see that.
You know what it looks like.
If we can get a VOD from that pull of both the like you are getting to sell next and
you are getting to spell it right now thing just so you can see what that looks like
and I just want to see what it looks like for them so we can see if we can.
This is really good suck first.
It has been the first few times there but.
I'm pretty sure last time it was blue that sucked first.
Yeah, it's pretty sugar.
It's just, yeah, you just,
the first group that gets sucked,
we can talk about it.
Yeah, it's just not all the same.
Okay, so we're soaking this,
we're getting out of the phase.
Okay, to spell debuffs,
he gets to dispel,
it says get to spelled now.
It's in the, your week or is our fucking cursed.
They're like, I don't want to tell you about it.
Yeah, so you don't want your week or is looked like that.
The get to spell thing should be like,
right on top of your character.
But that means like,
you should be under the boss as soon as possible.
but you don't see it because it's under all of your big wigs.
Okay, and then who had it next year?
So it should be Seng.
So I need to see Seng's, give me.
Mine was Spell 4, that's what it is.
And then when people die, so it's like that.
What's the name of this one?
Senging's 4, it's out of her.
If you die with it, it'll just like go on the boss.
That's why it was Seng's.
Oh, it's Seng's to Spell 4, then it should, wait.
These lists are...
It's because some people grow the list upwards
some downwards. Oh, I got so Drinako a second. I don't have
Drinacos beauty fuck. Yeah. Yeah, but like once booming gets the
spell Drinacos one will say the spell now and thanks will say
the spell three. Okay, it's a it's a two for me and since you
know, got the spell. Good. Do we know? Alright, good. So
you guys having the list and also having the number on
front of your character is probably something you want to
move and just make sure you can see but you can see how
works, but I think the dispel timing is like macro is good, but I could also see a world
where we actually have five exact fight times where we want the dispels to happen, and we
just put those in the weak ores, and it literally just counts down for them to move under, and
it just assigns the healers they dispel in order rather than the macro, right? And it's
just like you're just expected to be under the boss at that point, and you just decide
when you want them to like optimize the damage amps. Or go as fast as you need to go.
I made that already before we pulled the boss without the lead.
The Magger thing?
No, the exact fight time.
Oh good.
Is it still a damage amp per stack so you can milk I'm on it?
Yes. It also does the taking damage to the boss I think.
I'm going to have to check that since I changed it.
Yeah also I will change a little bit later but I would just have the analysts
start looking at boss damage because if we want to make swaps you'd want to do
them not super late into progress you'd want to do them like as soon as possible
I'm assuming so we wouldn't want to have them come up with less pulls. So when we
do the highway thing like like they're soaking our orbs like while we go around
and then we come in and suck their orbs like they should be done soaking
before the blue circle ends right? They can be or they can just come back and
soak them after there's a ton of time because you're just you're correct
spot to go back to the boss is just like right where their orbs are. So you don't, you don't
have to soak them on the way out. You can. There's only 10 of them between 20 of you.
So everyone only needs to soak one or five of you could soak two. It is extremely easy
in that phase. Like the, the team that gets sucked and goes to the right, they have to
like exclusively go back and soak the other people's orbs after, but you can soak before
or after. If you're the second group, it doesn't matter.
Do you not get sucked to the same spot or am I lost on this part?
What do you mean?
The orb spawn, not where you get spawned.
The orb spawn where you get stuck from.
Yeah, it's when it does damage.
I got one up trying to set up blue orbs there.
We can watch it real quick.
I think somebody was just like a blue guy was probably just there.
When you were going in, they were probably just in the wrong spot.
Good thing to look at. Anyway.
Okay, so they get their groups together.
groups together. You should be with your, uh, web war text partners W.
Do it. So red group gets sucked in first ready right now.
So red group would go half year, half year.
They don't come in contact with blue ever. They just go have an old passion.
W ran towards the group. That is fucking scary. All right. He didn't wait.
Oh, passion W probably killed people.
How did you not kill anyone? Yeah, you have to get out fast, by the way.
Cause if we're all getting stuck on her. So if you're not out,
We're we're turbo dead. How did they one die? Okay, but like now you guys fired up went this way
So like draw with my mouse so red goes and they go this way and then blue goes and they're gonna go this way
And yes, you can soak them on the way out, but there's no issue with that
Right so now everyone gets out
But then now in red is not blue is naturally on this side and red is naturally on this side
So when this circle resolves you just run back to where the boss is and you still have eight seconds to soak all
This is fucking pissed I definitely kill my care. I turn out go blink and I got fucking so disoriented
And then I just stay on the blue side and I was like just oh
Oh, yeah, so three on the reds three's kind of on the blue side as well, but did I do that right there in this one?
Let's see. Yeah
You're on the right side. I think like when you got sucked in you like
Instead of going the two correct spots for blue here are here and here. I think you almost went to like skull
And I think you ended up doing it. I mean, this is yeah, this is perfectly fun
Yeah, you did this exactly right and then you end up on the right side
Yep
Before I still read every time there for us, but you know change because we did it in the 10 man to see the end of the fight and
The red group got sucked second
Like 100% red group got sucked second in at some point in p2 maybe it's like the next one though
the markers are supposed to be between the slices a lot of them are just not
that's the very wrong yeah I replace them I just went off screenshot so I
just don't purple was correct but I don't know what you're just like if you're
ranging to have a system make your own marker I don't know what you're doing
this is where this thing you just watch it on the pv2 here like moon is
like right in the middle of a slice to central they look for purple is just
directly a little bit the purple got moved to like here I think purple move to
the left and then x is like two yards in the wrong direction I think it's now
where moon is right just if you guys see him in the intermission just pick
them W ship at least the last boss had a consistent floor oh shit I got a hat
And a monocle
Hey web bombs in
To one now we're rotating after this wait rotating in three two one
Go orbs are blowing up and then I really need you guys to be good at soaking at the end of this phase because if we wipe to that like
We're out of 10 pulls missing that so we're gonna change our strats because we can't be inconsistent if you want
If you don't want to change the strat don't fucking miss those orbs
They were rotating soon
Rortating in three two one now a frontal now on blue. Oh fuck someone remind me again good example
Maybe like I kite it a little bit there. We can do that slower next time add soon
Or we can roar or something
Okay, ready for rain
off-front all
good
And we are rotating in three two one go
Being an extra web branch
They're all there instantly gone
Uh, oh, we missed something anyway. Bye.
Bigwigs, bigwigs, bigwigs.
What happened with the soak? Oh, bigwigs, yeah.
So when we have frontal timers on bigwigs, I want it to say frontal for blue or frontal for red.
It'll be blue frontals in P1, red frontals in P2, and both in P3.
I just, I just...
Yeah, that's...
That's Christ's cloak laid so it ate it, that's all.
Okay, yeah, but I was still confused on one other thing though.
So how many orbs do we spawn here?
20, if you spawned extra red orbs, that's why.
That's right, someone goofed?
Yeah, I said I Christ's cloak.
Oh, well, that didn't spawn the extra,
they spawned two extra orbs.
Is that what your cloak does?
I thought it only spawns one less.
Oh, no, it should only spawn one less, yeah.
If someone else messed up, it's not a web bomb.
That would have spawned significantly more.
Do you just like it if that blue and red orb trucker has a countdown next to it that just counts down on when the orb is floating?
I think what it should look like on someone's screen. Here's what I think. I think it should do this.
So there's the thing that FireDep has that you guys can see here. Like FireDep, this is yesterday's one.
I think Nick and I cleeeed.
Okay, that's what it was.
Um
Like you see here where it like has the number the like red and blue that's good for me
I don't think I don't know why you would care about your own colors orbs if you're a player
I think like your UI should look something like this like
Your UI should just be a big fucking
Let's say two right and it should just be a number counting down of how many red orbs are remaining if you are a blue player
And that's just counting down and that number is super relevant
And then there's some kind of like success where it's at zero and now you need to stop thinking about it and some kind of like
Countdown next to this as to like how long you have to soak that orb in like one do I package if that makes sense
That might be close to what they have now, but this would make way more sense than like the both number thing
I explained how you can make the numbers only show the number that you're interested in and you can just turn off the bar
That is not your color
Maybe let me see fire in a TV here. So is are these two separate week or is the zero zero?
No, but someone asked in the week or his channel how you can make it on the show one of them and it's in the score
Oh, okay
Yeah, if you only want to so see one of the orbs and this will is there like a like a
Some kind of audible or visual success as if all orbs are gone. Are you just waiting to see this line go away?
The line well it goes to zero the number. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay, so it's really play a sound when it's here
I
14 minutes before I start writing so I think I'll finish the dispel we core
Okay, cool
Well, I run you can probably change is the release it's a change
I mean I can just explain it again and discord if you just want to see one number
cool
Be linked to why you said it. Oh, I'm like looking at the one in the week or is John
I use them look and call reply to it. Oh and so can oh, yeah, boomie asked for it
and you can just disable the bar for the color you're not interested in.
Oh yeah, oh you are ravaging it. You are feasting on this whole solo.
And did Nebula hear my, he's muted. Did he, the big week thing? I can put in brain trust.
Welcome back from that monster energy listen in if you're just now tuning in we are currently progging on mythic the Silicon
Court alongside echo and
Method they've got a couple more hours in their raid day over there in
EU time and we are just kind of starting our day
We are currently on pull 63, but I think it's only the fourth or fifth pull of the day. So
We got we got a long day ahead of us. We're taking it nice and slow
So making sure the steps we take forward in this fight are with purpose and with everything
that we need to know about every single bit of mechanics on this fight, every single movement
we're doing on this fight.
There was more nuance to it than we were really talking about there, right?
So we had certain things that we saw yesterday that they were talking about positioning
like dropping the web bombs, which is done exclusively by the red group, that
mark of rage group, and things like, you know, baiting the beetle frontal, which
which is done exclusively by the blue group.
And the positioning throughout the fight
is something we have to worry about for those mechanics.
It's an interesting bit of nuance,
like you mentioned, that there's so much positioning
that is adjusted.
You're even seeing some of the web groups
being handled by the red team.
And so there's these alternating bits of mechanics
that like Takaj, the more spindly of the mobs,
is having a lot of their mechanics
handled by the opposite group to Takaj.
And so as they are sort of weaving
between handling these mechanics,
They're also trying to build it so it's the exact same thing every single time,
so that you can get used to the habits and you can get used to the patterns onto the encounter.
But so much of being able to do that is relying on the other team
to be doing the exact same thing every time on their side.
Right.
Even just one player being out of position, as we heard through one of those polls,
you know, they were talking about the positioning of the moat, saying one far behind,
one off to the left, make sure everyone's aware of where the extra ones are.
that still need to be soaked.
And it's even less time than we thought
that they had to pick up those arms right.
It's 15 seconds once they're on the ground.
You can see, there's even a nice little animation
in the game the next time we see those moats on the ground
that kind of shows you when those moats are about to go off.
There's a little sword over the moat.
It's slowly approaches the moat.
When it impacts the moat, that's when it explodes.
They also have a timer on their screen on their week,
or else that's a little, it's fun.
No, I like that a lot because it also is a good
highlight for when certain moats have spawned earlier than others. It allows you to drive
your decision making further as you're going to soak them as to which ones you want to
go after first.
One of their webs died there and the boss will get hit by two of them. So it's going
to be a wipe and go again. If the boss doesn't get intersected by three webs on Mythic,
the charge does some one-shottable unmitigatable damage to the entire rig that you really
shouldn't have happened.
Absolutely. You have six players setting up these tethers to clothesline the boss and they're all taking a ridiculous amount of damage while they're doing it
And they're adjusting their positioning and they're making sure they're baiting new puddles and new mechanics
And they're also taking dot damage from soaking those motes
So this is one of those things that you'll be looking at of we need to get through this phase very cleanly
And then once you do it's building the habit and the pattern so it's the exact same thing every single time
It's one of those areas where like you're gonna wipe a little bit more to achieve perfection in the phase
So that you're never going to be having wipes ever again, hopefully as they're starting to go phase 2 phase 3
Luna just wandered in here. What is she doing?
Hi ma'am
Probably looking for the the unicorn or the was it a llama that she was like
Yesterday, I think I startled her. Hmm. She wandered through the caster room a little bit yesterday
really right behind you oh she escaped that camera you're just getting ready to
show you guys Sammy's sister and she is a lot a lot more introverted than Sammy
she's more like a cat you kind of have to earn her affection for the first like
four tears she wanted nothing to do with me and now sometimes sometimes in the
morning she'll get excited when she sees me yeah let me pet her come to me the
the rest of the time. She keeps to herself.
You do.
That's slowly but trust.
Yeah. She's very sweet though.
By the way, big change in the raid.
There's something we were talking about before that listen in there.
We were talking about, you should do everything they can to get a second
to enhance it. Right?
Oh, look at that. You know, I think they heard you.
They're like, you know what? That's the Hyrule guy.
I'm secret.
He knows what he's talking about. Oh, are you actually?
I don't know.
I wouldn't be surprised if you...
Yeah, it was a good strategy. If spec does a lot of damage, why are we not bringing it?
The double rogues double DKs as well. Was this our tank pump at the start of the day or were we also running?
This particular setup. We've got Scott on the blood. Okay. Yeah, we're running a boomkin for our mark of the wild debuff
Yeah, I believe that's a recent change this well interesting Bernardio
I've gotten into the raid on a second boss unbeknownst to anyone else.
I don't know what he's doing here.
That guy's been pushing I.O. this week.
I bet.
Not much else to do for boom kid players.
Rivens?
During Nexus Princess Canvas polls, he was here late at night and we were, you know,
asking him, what are you doing?
You know, he was in Mythic Plus groups with Dorky and Growl.
He's like, hey man, it's push week.
He's got to get some I.O.
That's right.
Whatcha pushin' bud?
Whatcha pushin' bud?
Rescusted donation!
Oh my goodness, we're backing the polls for the subcourt.
Once again, you can see, I actually didn't even realize that the webs as they're dropping
out of the ground don't deal any damage to you, or not like significant damage.
So you just stand in them and pre-position.
Yeah, that must be a change on Mythic because they definitely are not good for you to...
Okay, that's what I thought.
...be a heroic.
Yeah, okay, that's what I thought as well.
I was like, I thought they would deal a tremendous amount of damage to you on heroics.
You would want to like not be where the the rain falls onto you interesting
That is what I thought
Here we go first charge boss taking increased damage for the next 12 seconds
You would ever burst damage we can it's gonna be cut short by this venom rain here
Which is gonna cause another raid movements to soak boats
Make sure we don't hit the players of the opposite color and don't leave any boats on the ground
I think we're all set all the boats are gone. You can see we've got markers in the middle of the room
These are likely for movement position planning in the intermission phase, but we also have certain range players out here
Probably for baiting the next set of webs
Should be coming out with this venom rain, which also means that we're gonna have a
Much larger amount of orbs to deal with because that is also a damage triggering events
That we have to worry about so look at the amount of orbs on the ground
Everyone has to make sure they get likely two of those moats to make sure that they don't explode
So, it's like we've done it.
Do we have three web breaks to make sure the boss is blocked in its charge?
I believe we do, and yes, there we go.
Another damage up on the fight, and we're going to get into mid-intermission.
Oh!
Not really shortly afterwards here.
That's right.
Love being able to see Nick setting up that Lifebind ramp, and specifically marking the
players that had webs upon them.
He marks all of them with Echo, Haces Ferdinand Brace, activating the Lifebind ability,
activating Emerald Communion, producing a huge heal onto himself, that then transfers
to everybody with the lifeline buff upon them.
Great way to do a tremendous amount of spot healing for a brief duration, which is really
what is required of you when those players have webs upon them.
Now we're getting into that intermission phase and they're starting to spread out their
soaks of the motes.
It's been interesting to see how they're sort of distributing the group, making sure
that players are soaking two stacks while others, like on the side of Nick, are
just soaking or not soaking any for the first period and then they're trying to go
in and soak two for the next period.
He kind of ran through with Hover, trying to soak as quick as possible, but ended up getting hit by the cleave.
But there was a limited duration, there was a limited amount of time to soak those moats, so it was very important to get in there quick to save the raid.
You can see they had a little bit of weird positioning there as well.
They had some players out behind the group as well, so there's some weird moats on the ground, but they should be good to go.
As long as they get the soaps off on those, they'll be okay.
I think we are into the second phase here.
Now the beetle has rejoined us and we get a little bit of different mechanics in this second phase
The first of which we saw during that listen is what was the Poland which?
Fortunately enough on mythic only pulls in one of the groups at a time. We were wondering we were speculating the other day
How would this mechanic work if it pulled in all 20 players fortunately? That's not the case. Don't have to worry about
Running into the other players in the dead center of the boss
However, this does mean that you do have to be stacked in a certain way on this fight
So that when a one group does get pulled in you don't get pulled through a player of the other color
True any player of the opposing color touches another they're instantly vaporized
They're instantly killed on it this one. And I think that was a cataclysmic destruction for the boss
The boss to spell that you know that was six caravals. It's much more difficult on mythic on heroic
You get I think 12 seconds to deal with three of them actually it's 15 seconds to deal with three of them on heroic
On Mythic you get 10 seconds to deal with five of them. So it is quite dangerous.
Every single Dispell that goes on to the boss is going to do a large chunk of
raid damage as well so it's going to be an extremely difficult 10 seconds of
stressful healing for the healers. And you have to remember they're not going to
be able to be completely stacked up because their players have to be under
the boss for the spells, which have to be away from the group, and then of
course you're separated into your two stacks for the markers as well I was
almost a Scott solo to the end there at 70% of health you could have done that
yeah and a new best as well for a PB I don't have to be confused with peanut
butter thank you yes yes just making sure crunchy or smooth oh gosh yeah are
You crunchy? You crunchy, Jack?
Crunchy smooth.
Bad? Crunchy or smooth?
I would just rather have like peanuts on their own.
Or almonds on their own.
Just for me, the texture of smooth peanut butter is fine on its own.
Like, if you're having a spoonful of peanut butter, oh yeah.
I'm cool with smooth.
Yeah.
If I'm having a PBJ, there's gotta be some substance to this sandwich, right?
I can see that. I don't want just a paste sandwich.
Were you one of those kids that put Doritos in their peanut butter jelly sandwich?
Not on my PB&J, but like the ham and cheese sandwich, yeah, for sure.
Oh.
Ugh.
Okay.
Yeah, because that's the logical progression of that.
Like, cool ranch?
Potato chips on the regular sandwich is great, yeah.
No, I don't disagree, but it's funny that, like, you're like,
peanut butter jelly, absolutely not.
But a ham and cheese, yeah, that'll do.
Oh, that is diff.
Yeah.
Uh, hehe.
It sounds like a cursed sandwich.
Oh, we've got a pole going for crunchy versus smooth.
Here, I'll put my smooth vote in.
Well, now I have to pull up, Shep.
Yeah, you got to pull it out.
You got to offset my jacket.
You got to get in there also.
It's important to vote.
You're right.
It is extremely important to vote.
Indeed.
Make sure you're registered.
Make sure you're registered to vote, everyone, for the election.
Not the, uh, not the, uh, vote for that one also.
In the meantime, while these guys are getting their votes in,
can I just give a shout out?
I'm just, I'm so excited that we've got the Chinese guilds back in the mix.
Hotpot Hero, is that what they're called?
Hotpot Hero.
I'm so proud of them. They're a 3% right now. Almost 6 out of 8. They're almost going to be joining the rest of us here.
Do they have like a Twitter account or something? I don't know what they're doing. I don't know where they're streaming. I don't know where their updates are.
I only follow the Coinbase leaderboard.
Yeah, I don't know a lot about them either.
Usually we have kind of a liaison to the top-end Chinese scene who talks about them a little bit.
Boya Nazda see-in over on Twitter. Yeah, you talked a little bit about them on Twitter yesterday
I saw a post about them. Okay for a little bit of insight into the Chinese scene
So for instance, if you know the old guild skyline that kind of disbanded after the last here
They were a top guild. Yeah, a lot of their players have reformed to create that z-box guild
Uh-huh in the sixth place spot
Not sure too much about who hot pot heroes is
Apparently they, we have, there's updates on Raider Aya, which I should have assumed,
thank you Hula Hoops.
Oh.
I'm gonna go over there to Raider Aya, one of our sponsors for the Race World First.
Of course they've, of course they've got that covered.
I shouldn't even have questioned it.
How do I type this in though?
I wonder if it's, are they listed as hot pot hero?
Also hot pot is delicious.
If you go to the RWF tab you should be able to find them pretty easily.
You know what?
out, smarted left and right here.
We're going to be left down.
Okay, let's see.
We're going to be left.
Press on this button.
If it will load.
What's going on?
Hello?
Load please.
There we go.
Another long discussion here, probably talking about positioning, talking about where they
drop modes, making sure players are understanding of where they're starting the intermission
phase because if one person is out of place for that mode, it can kind of mess up the
cadence of the whole fight.
players to stick behind to get their moat, might have to run too close to the other group,
which might be out of position for the next moat drop, which would be quite difficult
to do. Do you have any more information?
No, but I'm looking at Raider IO. Method's dinner menu is so cute.
Oh.
They've got like little drawings.
That's pretty cool.
You like this.
Drawings?
Yeah, look at it. It's like, um, it's got, it's like drawn kind of. It's like
a little doodle.
Oh.
Isn't that cute?
Cool.
is. Is that a sponsor?
Oh sure, it is a logo.
It's cute.
Alright, I'm looking. I got distracted by the food. I'm sorry. I like that all the other
guilds are adopting the making their food, their showcases. Well, not that we were
the first, but you know what I mean. It's just funny that there's a common theme here
that we're talking about World of Warcraft and we're talking about food.
Well, it's important. It's fuel for the fight.
It is. It is.
Look at it done.
Okay, I'm scrolling. Let's see. This is like an article that I'm looking at right now.
Oh yeah, no, Radar IO has been keeping us up to date with a ton of information during
progress. They even hit us with some of the information about liquids pulling yesterday,
which I was unaware of. You've been the, you know, we're here at the event.
They're on top of it, yeah. Hula Hoops knows more than we do sometimes. She's like the
eye in the sky and the whole Raider IO game I can't tell if they're on the in
the Chinese characters or if they're listed as hot pot hero who the who the
help me help me whoops Jeff DMK coming in here with that I'm pretty sure
everyone eats wow you know that you know everybody yeah you for the
information they're in CN characters and okay okay all right
Oh, apparently, hotpot form from Xiaojie, which is another one of our guilds from previous tier. That makes sense.
Nice. I believe that.
That happens quite consistently with the Chinese guilds I found, is 12 or 13 of those players or so,
from when a guild disbands, or you're going to go right back together, keep playing together, and build up a new team.
You have a lot of pretty famous players over in China, of course. Players like HiMelody,
the huge mage player, there's like Anwu, the tank.
Oh, mm-hmm. Well famous in the MDI dungeon players over there. Hey, hey a lot of players for MDI
Excitement the arena teams. Oh
You've had some good good arena teams of the past as well
Actually want to know an embarrassing story of mine sure, but you know what?
I can forgive myself at this point in time
But back when I was a very green caster sideline reporter
I did I was very very privileged enough to have blizzcon be like my third show ever and
And obviously I was insanely nervous to interview players on stage and we had a couple of arena
teams that were from China and we had a translator on stage that was translating the questions.
And I was so nervous that all I would do would be sit there and stare at my card and
be like, don't forget the next question, don't forget the next question, don't stutter,
all those things vary in my head.
So I would answer the question, ask the question, our translator would translate
it and then the player would answer back in Chinese and then I would proceed to the next
question as if I understood exactly what they said I like didn't give her a chance to translate
poor girl I felt so bad that's great and then I get off stage and the translator is like
you didn't let me translate like wait what do you mean so embarrassing it was so embarrassing
it was only one interview that that happened the rest of it worked out fine but I was
just I was just terrified that one keeps me up at night the audience was like they
were what did they say I'm sure they were very confused yeah well that was pretty
funny yeah it happens it happens I'm sure you guys have moments I hope you
have moments like that that you think about yeah they they don't I don't try
to think about them no yeah I tried to think about okay I shared an
embarrassing story you guys don't want to join me that's fine you don't
have to. I'll give it some thought. I'm sure there are some. Absolutely. I'm trying to think.
If I've ever witnessed desire or Jack. That's right. Yeah. Hmm. I parved many
pumpkins. So, that was a strange voice. I wonder who that was. I wonder who that was.
That's a good question. Hmm. No, nothing really strikes my mind. You guys are just so smooth
talking. No, it's just, you know, good short-term memory loss. You're like,
Like did that happen who knows there's no proof of it. It is it is good to uh to try and remember
And then inevitably someone will like clip it. Yeah, and then it you know goes viral and
There's been a few times where we're one of my embarrassing moments will get clipped and then I'll message an editor of that channel
Like can you please delete this? I'm just I mean be a wist about it. Can you delete it princess?
Does that work I think I have a lot of what they're gonna be like no we're not gonna delete your embarrassing moment
It's got to stay there.
I just have a lot of...
You know, grip clips, you got to own up to them.
Grip clips?
Yeah, gripping people.
Trying to save lives?
Oh, if we're just talking about embarrassing moments, I have one that's...
Yeah, wait, what did you think I was talking about?
Oh, I was talking about like embarrassing caster moments.
Just embarrassing moments in general.
Oh, I was talking about embarrassing caster moments.
But yeah, embarrassing just moments in general.
Oh, one of mine got clipped and put into a frock end of expansion.
Oh, God.
Same.
about this.
So during N'zoth progress, there was a ridiculous amount of incoming damage on the fight, more
so than pretty much any fight that I'd ever played on, and we were playing destruction.
I was playing destruction on that fight, and just the ridiculous of the situation, I just
started laughing on screen because I'm like, man, I really would like to drain life right
now, but drain life just isn't on my bars.
So I opened up my spell book and just started clicking drain life, laughing the entire
time.
Sometimes you got it.
The pull clearly wasn't going to go anywhere, but it's like we're just trying to make the
pull last as long as possible to see more of it.
So it's just this sheer ridiculousness of the situation that got put into a front video.
I think as a player that is obviously, as a casual player, when moments like that
happen with like you, your level of players, it makes me feel like, oh, they're just
like us.
Yeah.
It brings you down to earth a bit, that even sometimes professional players have to whip out the spellbook because they forgot to bind something.
Yeah, I mean, I gripped my rig, my raid leader at the time, during, uh, I paint the paints with Razzinal, and in my defense, I believe that he did not have enough movement speed to make it past the mines, the big spike balls and everything like that.
So I was like, I will grip him just to me.
It'll be like five feet.
And then it'll be fine.
And then I gripped him, and then he kept on going
and went over the edge, and you know.
The thing about it, I always tell myself,
is that if you want good grips, sometimes you
have to have some bad ones, OK?
Shoot or shoot.
Yeah.
Also, the shots you don't take.
That is one of the best sound bites I have ever.
Oh, of course.
And it is part of my discord sounds that I use.
What?
Same with my new guilt.
It's Rick going, do not ever do that.
Oh my gosh, that's the concept?
Or the context of that?
See, that's the thing.
Everybody's heard that clip or the sound.
Wargawks for a voice line for some reason.
Yeah, yeah, that was me.
Oh my gosh, that's amazing.
Again, if you're a priest with a griff or a voker with a griff,
you gotta shoot a shot, OK?
You don't get good highlights with having a couple of bad ones.
Sorry, but production reminded me
of another embarrassing moment of yours.
Which one?
About pie to the face.
That wasn't more so embarrassing.
It was more like shock in the moment,
Because James was supposed to be the receiver of the buy.
Right.
And James?
Yeah, he was ready for it.
James went off script.
He did.
Right in the glass.
Well, to be fair, I think we told him to do that.
He went off your script that you were aware of,
but he knew the plan all along.
Oh, that's new information.
I didn't know he was told to do that.
Yeah, I think so.
Oh, so we're leaking right here.
Yeah, good thing he's not here.
I'm sorry.
Oh, apparently James did go off script.
I'm sorry.
My bad.
That's the line this was trying
We miss James, too, but he's a we have lost him to old school RuneScape, which is a Harvard University, you know
At least it's not like at least it's another MMO and it's not like we lost him to I
Don't know. What's it? What's a game that would be a little bit tragic to lose him to?
What if he just went met he came into Counter-Strike Pro. It was like really really insane. I'd be okay with that
I'd be alright with that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You still play OSRs, sir?
Not so much. I don't play it. I kind of... I watch other people play it.
I've tried it this year. I've tried it recently. It was fun.
So, what... I mean, I played Rune Tape when I was like 13, right?
And I was just farming, Irving, you know...
Honestly, mostly it was like mining and blacksmithing I had to blast with.
But what are people still doing and like what's different that they've added?
Is it like actual like endgame dungeon content or something?
There's a lot of stuff you can do in-game?
No?
Okay.
Oh, okay.
Because my memory of it was basically like, it was about end-game, it was about the entire
like journey of like leveling up all the professions, you get like 80, 85 of the profession
and then it slowed down.
Three.
When did you play?
Like again, 15 years ago, 17 years ago.
So like actual 2007?
Yes, like literally like way, way back, it was like that, it was the journey,
there was no end-game.
We'd run around in the wild, like take off all our armor, put it in the bank, run around
in the wild and just explore.
That was kind of when they started to put in-game stuff into the game, things like God Wars Dungeon
and Dungeon airing.
A lot of in-game bosses got put into the game in 2007'scape, which is old school
runescape.
They kind of took that snapshot from 2007 and they started just adding content to
it.
Which was a really cool concept and one of the reasons the game is so popular, even
though it's just a revamp of an old game, is kind of what I was hoping they would
originally do with classic, but they kind of got campered by the no changes squad.
But they're kind of just now starting to do it with Season of Discovery.
Season of Discovery is what I assumed classic would be in the first place.
They would take the classic game and then add their own twist on it
and make it even exciting and fresh, but it's cool.
It's a cool concept.
Yeah. Interesting.
I remember there was like a pit, there was like a bunch of Vikings or something like that,
fighting around in an area and there was like a pit you'd go down
and then there'd be like endless bosses or something like that, you'd keep on fighting.
There'd be little like breaks, so you would just have to make sure you didn't die for like
five or six waves or something like that, then you'd have like a break and you could like
exit, get new items or poke barrier or something.
Yeah!
I had a lot of fun with that.
I had a couple of the like guild cloaks, once you reach a high enough level, you'd
be able to like get the special mining access or something like that, and the miner's
guilds, I did that as well, and then yeah, I would just like badger people to like
tell me how to complete quests and they'd just troll me and give me the wrong
answers.
Like how do you get the the black arm gang crossbows or something like that to go like join the gang and everything they go
Just troll me and like Varric and stuff. I'm trying to be the quest
I was always a weird quest because it was one of the only quests in the game that you actually had to do with another person
Yeah, oh that was a big mistake
You needed to have one person as a member of the black arm gang and one person as a member of the Phoenix gang
Yep, I knew it
Trade weapon that quest and it was also for the heroes quest
Yeah, I remember doing a couple of those there was like a heroes quest where you had to like stop a
like an old god or something like that from like rising from the shrine I remember
you had to like stop the summoning from happening there are a few there are actually a lot of
those oh really okay I just remember a lot of those and I just just tried like 20 quests together
I would have described like half the quests in the game oh man well one of them I swear was
outside of Eric or something like that there'd be a bunch of like evil summoners oh you might
just be talking about Demon Slayer yeah yeah yeah yeah I think my favorite part of that game is
the dialogue for the quests. It's so British. It seems like two casual British dudes having
a conversation. The game was made by two casual British dudes so that's the opposite. Yeah,
it definitely shows. Oh man. That and the other one that really sticks with me is when
there was the wizard that robbed the bank. Why is old man? Yeah, you catch him and
he's like, well, what are you going to do about it? You're like, guess nothing.
And then you go report up to the authorities and they're like, yeah, there's nothing we could do. He's too powerful
Are we allowed to play? Let's get music do you think?
I'm pretty sure it is a
copyright free. Oh
We should play the one the one like what is he sure? Yeah
We should do that next time we're we're filling
Absolutely, I hear we're getting back into the polls. They got the tether
They needed three different tethers to be able to amplify the damage taken onto the bosses
course the bosses are sharing health so and flying it onto that one target is
going to be incredibly beneficial onto their overall damage check. Here we're
going to be looking as we're getting into the first of the intermissions pretty
soon and the boss teleporting into the middle of the room and you're going to
see both of the parties there's the red team and the blue team going to be
getting up together they're trying to of course run as far from the from the
last drop of the moats as they can and entering into the safe spots when
possible. You're going to be watching for those motes as the mythic mechanic on this encounter.
As you can see, it's constantly spawning between the two groups. Red team, which is
Goop's team at the moment, needs to be soaking any of the blue orbs. Blue team needs to soak
the red orbs. So you're constantly trying to make sure you're moving together,
so you're dropping all those motes together in a line, and then steadily moving to soak
up the additional motes from your opposing team. One red moat a little ahead of the
group but the phase is ending so it's not going to cause too many issues for them. Let's see what
the positioning is going to look like for this first pull-on. I believe it is the blue team
that is going to pull into the boss first, or you can see red team staying well away from the
boss, away from the blue team so that they can get pulled in, and then of course they
will need to snap those webs after the fact as well so they don't take too much damage
over time from them. Here's the pull-on, oh no never mind it's red team getting pulled
in, not the blue team, then of course the blue team will have to go and soak those
red orbs on the ground as well. Rotate around, get all the moats down after the boss AOE,
and very soon now we will get into that cataclysmic cast from the long boy. They'll need to dispel
five stinging swarms on top of the boss. Here we go. Yep, Tkach going into the middle of the room,
about to have that big boom. You can even see they changed the cast on it specifically.
They got it! They ripped a master spell to make sure they'd have enough to make sure it
it would transfer into the boss.
They have a red group on one side, blue group onto another,
and they need to make sure everybody with a stinging swarm
is as close as they can to Takash to check,
transfer those swarm debuffs on to the boss.
OK, and then now it's a rinse and repeat.
Do the same thing.
The other team is going to get pulled onto the boss
this time around.
They'll have to snap their webs.
We'll get a movement for moats,
and then we'll get another set of debuffs
on top of the boss.
Here's the pull.
Oh, oh, we can see they're going
to pull across the room.
Several deaths, I think, there.
two people running into each other, unfortunately.
Yeah, the positioning there was very brutal as you had one entire team getting dragged
through the opposing squad instantly killing them.
And they have another round of debuffs that you dispelled.
Once these debuffs run out, they should be the last of the fight.
And if they can get those dispels on top of the boss,
it should be in a good position here.
Now you have time when you get the dispelled,
and now you need to go to the middle of the room.
Boss is going to teleport to the center of the room, then start casting.
You have 10 seconds to get those dispells off.
But of course with so many people dead, there's no way they're going to actually get all of the spells off this time around.
Ooh!
That is a crazy difficult combination of mechanics that they've reached, but it's also a new best for them, overtaking method.
Yeah, massive pull there. And of course we know that after the second round of the spells, we're going to enter the second intermission where the beetle this time around is going to have that shield on him.
They're gonna have to dodge a whole bunch of cascading sequences of waves coming out
From everywhere in the room and the positioning for that is going to be I think quite difficult
You're gonna have to find a way to move around as a group and get to a position where you can soak the other groups modes
And that's something I think they're going to spend quite a lot of progression time on what is draw?
We're swapping some trinkets out. Oh
Here we go
This isn't sea shanty. This is the flute something
I don't remember the game where this is from.
Isn't this not the Caribbean area?
Alright, we're going to find a lot of bananas and boxes.
Sure. Trust you. I don't know.
Chat, anyone knows which area this is from?
This is Lumbridge.
Oh, that's right. We have all the light nights.
Thank you.
There's a lot of those in my Twitch chat, too.
Hey!
Can I make a request?
Can we get Autumn Voyage?
Okay.
This would be a really cool job to be a musician that just makes video music.
I want to know who makes the OSRS music.
It's got a certain spice to it.
I would want to be one of the musicians playing the music.
Yeah.
Not like the composer.
That would be true.
That would be the photographers.
The original two people in the game.
Really?
At least the original music for them.
Okay.
That's fun.
Yeah.
That'd be a fun job.
Well.
You for sure.
Yeah.
We trusted in Twitch Chat that it was copyright free.
So we said Javax even encourages...
I was gonna say...
...to use their music.
Every time I've seen them being talked about, they seem very chill.
They're like, hey, do whatever you want to do, man.
I like it. I'm here for it.
Next, final fantasy music.
That is...
...she goes, no!
Darn it!
Yeah, Square Enix might not like that.
On Twitch.
Yeah. Ah, here we go.
Nice. There's a vibe in it all.
I don't even know what I'm talking about. I just want to feel the OSRS vibes.
Ah, just enjoy the moment. This is a nostalgia song.
Harmony is another good one.
Harmony? Yeah.
Oh, got a weaker update.
That match with the sword?
That is match with the sword. That is one of our announcements from a couple of years ago.
Yeah, we gave them swords. Not real swords, don't worry.
Aw.
Yeah, I know.
I believe there weren't no swords on set though.
But we did not hand them to the Raiders.
Because every time they get swords, they
immediately start
pretending to whack them with a sword.
Yes!
What do you do when you're handed a sword?
Yeah, that's what guys do.
I think it's a perfect natural progression.
Which is why we give them fake ones.
Yeah, you give two swords, there's gonna be sword fights.
Yeah.
A couple people are confused about that OSRS music. Just vibe with it guys.
Yeah, just vibe.
You know how on the Echo Stream they have the M itself doing the dance?
Yeah.
You get like the default OSRS character in the dance.
Yes.
That would be amazing. I'd be down for that.
Yeah, like they're kind of their secondary MMO over there as a kind of fantasy.
Perhaps we, maybe we try and befriend the OSRS community and that's our,
that's gonna be our niche now.
Come to us
I was gonna say
Yeah
We'll claim James as parent master
Right, right in this world
We can still claim them
I think he's still listed as a streamer too
Yeah, he is here
Yeah, so
He's been watching the race, keeping an eye onto it
Shout out to James
We'll see what he's doing right now
Oh wow, I doubt he streams though
I don't think he streams anymore
He should strain. He'd probably get a lot of fans over there.
Hey, here's the update. New bests going all around.
Alright, there it is.
Alright, liquid best is 63%. Echo stole that 56.4% going into it as well.
Well, yeah, I think in Echo, both slowly approaching the end of the day here.
I saw you were looking at a time zone conversion over there earlier on.
It's a nine hour conversion if I'm not mistaken, to Germany for Echo.
Yeah, so it should be about 8pm over there, right now.
So, specifically approaching the end of the day.
Now of course the difference is when we hit the end of our day, tomorrow's reset.
This one's another day on Mary's Head, so...
Get that extra round of gear, we'll get those vaults, get those
Magnificent Bosses, and for some more loot...
More chances at some Herogra items if they still need those upgrades
at the end of the day.
And I think what's also really valuable is
getting a more clear idea as to what their End Boss comp wants to be.
Yeah.
And there's been just a lot to learn, really.
Figuring out, oh, like, what class is gonna be good for this?
You think it might be X?
and then it turns out to be slightly different.
You think you might only have one enhancement shaman,
and then you want to make sure you're bringing two.
And so that clarity of mind
has everybody's getting more geared
and a greater understanding
of what's going to be the most beneficial.
You get a very good idea
of what's good in Heroic Week.
You start making adjustments there,
Mythic throws another wrench into it,
and then the incoming reset is saying,
everything is going to be perfectly optimized onto this one.
You know, you're getting what looks to be,
you know, they're locked in comp right now,
But maybe they're gonna see something a little bit different when all the mechanics are completed and they have to push towards the end
We saw that happen on Nexus Princess for example in a swap to a one-tank strat
We need to get people in with less pulls less attempts and say okay. Well. We need to go kill the boss now
Start catching up and start learning
All right. Well while these guys are
Poking through with these next couple of pulls
We're gonna take a look at some transmogs submitted from the viewers till dot GG slash RWF dash donate
If you'd like to submit your transmug or your pet for $30 here, they let Paladin gin
Love that. I love the air in our skin to air dark and blue eyes. Yeah. Yep. Okay. It's a red draenei
I don't know that a little side braid. That's cute. Was this light for oh no, it's just God. It's time
Sorry, this is gonna have to wait what a song
I'm the only one dancing up here it's fun fact with each loop of sea shanty we
get more damage on the boss yes yeah we get a little bit further we're listening
to this for the rest of the day guys all right what's next transbog yeah we
Wait, oh wait, let's rate this one real quick.
Yeah, we did.
I thought, I did not.
Sorry, I did not.
Okay, 10 out of 10, you're right.
You're up.
10 out of nine.
10 out of 10?
All right, let's see the next one.
This should just be our transbog music, I think.
It does fit.
It does.
We're gonna get the next one in, in the meantime.
Is it a TM?
Soon, soon TM.
What instrument would this be?
Which one?
The one doing the top melody.
It sounds like a keyboard.
Maybe, I don't know.
No, is this a-
Is there a sound guy now?
He's a professional musician.
Is it a flute? Yeah. Is it a real flute? Yeah, I mean, there it was to be a flute, I guess. It's a computer. It's all computerized.
Is it? Yeah. Oh. Got like a little accordion there. A little accordion. Nice little kick beat.
I don't know what that like, I don't know what you call it. It's like a shake.
Like a shake or something. That's describing it at all. Yeah.
It definitely is Xylophone in the background. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You ever had the xylophone for like the school announcements in the morning?
Yes.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
You didn't have that?
The doo doo doo doo?
No.
Really?
No.
Interesting.
What do we think of this transplant?
Oh.
Wait, we saw a chill alley before.
Oh.
This is a resubmission.
Maybe they changed something?
They didn't.
Hmm.
That's crazy.
Actually, the weapon's different.
Is this the trap version of the song?
This is the Algothar version.
Let's go.
Oh.
Turn it up. You know what chill you're gonna get a 10 out of 10 this time as well
It's actually so sad that was the trap version, but the intro
Remember he's a heck of a thing
Okay, I like this
All right, you bring your submission daughter cool name
Where's daughter?
Nothing.
Daughter is shadow melding.
Huh?
There we go.
How many squirrels for the gray guild?
Okay, okay.
Oh, I'm pretty matchy.
Can we get a little zoom in?
Zoom.
Zoom.
Computer enhanced?
Let's sucker around.
Enhanced.
And then go down?
Enhanced.
Enhanced.
Ooh.
Uh.
I hate this hairstyle.
This might be one of those trans bugs that looks different in game than it does in the Armory.
that's no armor yeah yeah
look at him seven get a five
there was it
all right even even the sea shanty going
oh my little pally oh this guy a brony
or a prony what's that you're a brony you know what a brony is
Really? Uh, it's like somebody that really likes my little pony.
Wait, are you joking?
I think he was joking.
Oh, sorry.
Can't be sarcastic with me, it goes over my head.
I feel like I'll love for us to have been online for as long as we have been and not know that.
I mean, I wasn't gonna be one of those people, like, you know when you say you haven't watched a really popular movie and somebody's like,
What?
Like, you know I didn't want to be one of those people.
No, I appreciate that. I love this trans mark, by the way.
It's true.
This might be my first 10 out of 10 for the sesh, or forever I should.
Wow. Okay.
Yeah.
I'll give it a 9. A lot of red pallets.
I'm gonna go for an 8. It's a solid one.
I like the fabulous title.
I don't know if it's a... I don't know if it's a full...
If somebody in chat might be like, oh, it's a full log or something, but like, I want it.
I don't think it is, because the shoulders are from Trading Post, right?
At least. So it's...
They're really good.
At least not partially. It's not partially not a full set, so...
Well, we're on the topic of these transmogs.
What's your guys' favorite weapon enchant allusion?
I don't use them.
Mongoose.
You're a Mongoose enjoyer?
You don't use them?
No, I'm too lazy.
I should.
I just throw on Fallen Crusader all the day.
My favorite one at all time, not only for the color scheme that it has, but also it
was the first expansion I played.
Uh-huh.
Is that Power Touring?
That's a good one.
Oh.
Power Touring is like this viewing game you haven't seen it.
It's like a purple and orange flames on your weapon.
Yeah.
Sick.
When I first started playing World of Warcraft, I didn't know what Enchants did.
what enchants did I just know I made your blood your weapon glow and I just
wanted it so I went and found that was back the day when you had to like trade
physically with an enchanter you probably thought it was probably like a
priest oh enchant and I was drew it in it looks silly but my weapon gloves so
these are cool weapons the pandaren has yeah any of you know how to read a
tunnel no no idea what that says do you know nope not flu okay see those
Weapons too it's nice a singular blade
Maybe we should check what the name says before we uh, I'd I'm not sure what the name is
Oh wow would let you put in well, but I'd give it an 8 and a 10. Good. It's like stomp us or something maybe
I've seen some some apparently it's actually really easy to learn how to read this no way
Huh, there's no way we just never put time into it. I'm translating it with my phone from back here
I don't know what that means production. They're saying what it means and I'm not gonna repeat it out loud or it could
Could be something bad. That's a cool mug though. We're reading the model again. Yeah, give it a day at 10
Yeah, so it's it stands. It's I'm my phone is translating it as storm foot
So
That's fun
Seven. Seven. Seven, seven. Ooh, irked. I like the name.
Wait, and it's a rogue. Wait, I love this. Irked. That's such a great name.
Ooh, let me see it closer to the face.
This is good. This is such a rogue transmog. I love this.
Oh my gosh. This is like a nine. This is amazing.
A little pan down.
Oh, this is so good.
Good weapons. Okay, the weapons are what we need to see.
Yeah.
There's like darker weapons that could be utilized for it, but they're really good
I think they work nicely because it ties in the red. Yeah, I'd say 9 out of 10. Yeah
6
Okay, all right
Thank you for your submission. Yeah, should we call them a transmission because it's a submission of a transmog like a trans
No, that's stupid. All right. Here's court
You got sulfur sulfur or something? Yep. Yeah, I'm gonna chant on it. This looks like
What are you older to your shoulders?
I do like the collar as well. A bit out of the conservationist title too. Yeah, watch what title helping all the goblins
basically round up wildlife
The ball in it here. They go. It's not set is it?
That's a dress. I'm pretty sure I would say these is
Inclusive the bottom seven point seven seven. I do enjoy some autumn druid hotel
Okay. Alright.
There you go.
Oh, 7.9.
Sorry, I didn't realize you hadn't.
7.9.
7.9?
7.9.
7.9, okay.
Alright, let's take a look at the next submission.
Alina Viss.
Ooh.
Close up of the helm.
Church of Crusty.
I don't think they killed me.
Oh, Crusty.
Is this a set?
Uh, A-Symmetrical Shoulders.
Big fan.
Yeah.
Yeah.
MacGyver is a good pick for this as well. It's a good selection for it.
You like those shoulders too.
Real quick people asking in chat how to submit teal.gg slash rwf-donate
Or exclamation donate in the chat.
It feels like there's a bit of off coloration with this set, but I think it works really well.
This guy has given me another one of the vibes of like the soldiers from
from Game of Thrones, the North.
Yes.
This is the North, yeah.
Yes, 100%.
I think I'd give it an 8.5.
8.8.
Yeah, I'm in the 8s as well.
I'm gonna go 8.3.
So, it's all it offered.
Right, it's like, the armor was once the same color,
but through use and wear and tear,
it kinda gets off colored.
I don't know if that's the head of it.
Give it a rating, Aya.
I'm gonna give it, I'm gonna give it an 8.
I'll give it an 8.
All right.
Hey, was it for your submission?
Yeah, thank you for your submission.
Thank you so much.
Let's check out the next one here.
Ooh, God.
Oh, let's just not say that name.
I'm not gonna read that out loud.
Dude, it's gonna get his name reported.
Yeah.
This is crazy.
Wait, his face is all red.
Yeah.
And then he's got the purple mug, white beard.
I don't even think that you need like the red battle paint.
I feel like that kind of takes away from it a little bit.
Is this supposed to be like a mug
one of the uh the cult members from
yeah the cult members the twilight cult
twilight oh yeah i feel like if the hammer
was like the hammer yeah i feel like the
hammer was purpley it would have been a
little bit higher but i give it an 8.5
i think i just said the chocohammer
right yeah i'm gonna go 7.9 get that
get that get that chocohammer yeah
we'll bump you up to an eight bud
i agree with your rating all right well
those are the ones that we're
covering for now if you didn't get
to yours not to fear we will
but in the meantime
teal.gg slash rwf-donate
Get your transmogs a bit as well feel empty without such anti to it. I'm going to strike a deal. I'm going to strike a deal
Okay, I uh, I'm team anti sandwich love here. However
What maybe if we get to
15,000 within this block. I'll do a sandwich. Love. I'm sorry. What are we out right now?
We started at 13.
We're at, we're almost at 14.
Wow.
Yeah.
So, production?
What do you say?
I feel like they want to play it regardless.
I was going to say.
I don't know.
I'm not hearing anything back.
Well, it sounds like they're playing a new special version.
Does that mean production that we get the new special version
if we get to 15,000 within our casting block?
Okay, so they've got what, 40 minutes?
No pressure.
No pressure chat. That's the deal.
Only one sandwich love.
New special version of sandwich love, if we can get to 15,000 in 40 minutes.
Good luck. That's my, uh, that's my spiel.
See, I mean, we did say we were gonna...
Oh, that we were going to...
Leg!
these tell us I have a wow okay it's like it's he wearing undies listen I only
have one thing I could say about this trans blog so I've seen worse I am so
uncomfortable this okay let me screen job that's gonna turn you guys you guys
the guilt name 10 out of 10 no notes what was it you saw his guilt name ah
his guilt name was I have seen her oh oh oh gosh I love it I might have to put
that I might have to put that on one of my characters whatever that is I'm being
accused of denying chat dorkin I didn't I didn't have anything to do with that
why would you deny them there are three people who have a moat
privilege is on Team Liquid channel. They are myself, the mailman. Who did that to you?
And Gamertrop. Who gave you email permission? I don't know, I've had it ever since Boston.
Interesting. Okay. How do you get email permission? I don't know, I just asked for it and they
gave it to me. That's right. Oh, I was just curious of like the technical process
of it. Do you have to put that on 7TV? Oh, you know, 7TV, whoever has the Team
look what it kind of has to add.
Oh, okay, I see. Okay.
Probably gamer.
I asked at the very start of the race when I was adding in topical emotes to the channel.
I specifically asked, what do we think about working?
They're like, probably not.
So, that's why we do that.
Dang.
It's no one person in particular.
It's a little bit...
But it's Zyros fault. Get him, boys.
Alright, it's my fault.
Sure, fine.
Oh, look at that. We're at 13,600.
We're getting there 15,000 and we'll have sandwich love, but we saw this one too. I haven't seen this one
Hey people are resubmitting them. They want like a new new wave of casters who want us to check them out. Maybe
Hey, here we have first the Lizer a noob from the liquid plus guilds. Yeah, I'm trying to look with plus
I think I gave this an 8.3 last time
Three I'll give you an 8.3 as well liquid plus so I'm gonna add one to the score 9.3
9.3 wow hold on where's our sandwich love production or not not sandwich love
See shanty shanty. Yeah, see shanty. Actually, can we play harmony harmony from the old-school RuneScape soundtrack?
That's a classic. Oh, wow that was fast
Yeah, let's go the top version again. I really I really feel like I can
Rate some mobs with this music. All right. Thank you so much fertilizer for your submission
Oh, let's check out the next one.
Oh, I love the mushroom hat.
Delves, pretty sure.
Really?
Yeah.
How?
How do you do it?
We got the undelves.
We got a trowel.
Is it an achievement?
I like the chicken as well.
No, I think it's just loot that you get from delves.
Oh, okay.
It's a random job.
Yeah.
If you do the delves that are like mushroom based, the fungal folly I think is one
of them.
Is it cloth only?
No, it's everything.
Oh my God.
I already have it.
I should check.
Oh my gosh, I love that!
And they'll not a garlick in a shovel.
And she's called Pale.
Is there a title that would work with this RP?
Like Gardner Mushroom or something like that?
Fire Lord works pretty well.
Yeah.
Okay.
He could be the Smelly Mushroom Man.
True? Yeah.
He could be Smelly Mushroom Man.
Certainly could be. I love this.
This is amazing. Where you are?
Uh, 9. This is a 9 for me. I like it.
9.2 9.2 crime
The unrelenting crime of dump in town. Well, oh
My forge draeneye
Like it. I like the mug. Yeah, yeah, and the dark theme that I should work really well you too
Yeah, you know what this actually gives me a vibe of
What were they called what were the main villains of shadow bringers called again the
the light forge, the light fiends. Yeah, those things. What are they called? Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my gosh. They give me that vibe. Chat knows. It does. Yeah,
I'm with you. Not the Ascians. Not the Ascians. There are three villains of every single. Sin
Eater, Sin Eater. Sin Eater. Yeah, that's the vibe I like. I like this a lot. 9.2.
5.4, okay. I'll give it a 9, I like it.
Daily!
Daily.
This is a lot of set gear, but it's very good.
Looks okay.
You've got the mask from Castle Nathria, you've got the shoulder piece from Aberus, I want
to say.
It's a nice little combination of cloth mechanics that you have going on.
This looks really nice.
Yeah, very well put together though.
Very good Warlock mod too.
I'm gonna go 8.9 I'd give it a I'm gonna do 8.9 as well. I think they nailed it
I'll give it a 9
Good staff too. I might be a sanctum of domination staff there. Oh
They're not lady
Okay
I remember the
specific like brand of trolls that had that mask
It's like the Guru Bashe might maybe girl Bashe mask. Oh, yeah
I like to see that. I like to see orc central masks. They actually work really well
like a
7.8 for me. I give it a seven and a half
Okay, I don't know what people were saying flute salad is the lumbering song. I'm pretty sure this is the lumbering song
I don't know. I'm first. I'm gonna look up where flute salad is from
Me time we got the crash and thrash and Bayer. Bayer. Very good use of the
The eight symmetrical shoulders, love those.
This is a nine out of ten for me.
Give it an eight, six.
Eight, six, okay.
I'm gonna go seven, nine.
Seven, nine.
Apparently, Flute's out of place in the lumber, so...
Oh, okay.
Sorry.
Ah, there it is.
Ooh.
Wow.
Ten-wish.
Yeah, here we've got, um, gosh, I think it's night-hold, it's a piece of night-hold
the night hold belts I want to say as well as like the front row but it's like the helm
and then the chest from the same tier and I believe the same tier also has the belt.
The shoulders are quite a bit different.
Wow.
Yeah.
I like this.
This is working well.
I like it.
Yeah.
I don't know about that cloak though.
I like that they made him a red head also.
Yeah, it very goes very well.
Not sure about that cloak onto that one though.
I don't like the cloak.
He had a 7-7. I don't like most clothes to be honest.
I'll give it an 8.
The belt just is off. I don't like the belt.
Yeah, actually...
I feel like adding a third color is a little bit...
It's hard.
Yeah.
You already have the white, the gold and the red, or the blue and it's a little much
for me.
Do I have blue eyes? I don't know what color their eyes are.
It's like a 6 plus 7.
Tough with the cowl.
Might work. Yeah, it is. You're right.
I like it though. I'll keep my rating.
Well, thank you for your submission
And I hope other people are gonna get with nostalgia from this song. I certainly am
Right here's games
This I think this would work really well like a
melee oriented mom. Yeah, it's a little weird to the caster staff going into it
Looks like an assassin
Yeah, there's a little bit of yeah, I don't know if I like I think it's an eyebrow or like a face
customization you can have in the barber shop or having the little eyebrow branch going across.
Yeah it is. It's an appearance they added in all these Shadowlands.
Not a huge fan of that. I do like the blind eye and the red eyes combination a lot.
Yeah. I think if this is more of like a melee-oriented setup this would be like a nine,
but I give it about an 8.4 at the moment. Yeah I agree. It's like a hunter.
Yeah, if this was the form you were in most of the time playing this character
It'd be a really high score, but because it's a broken player and they probably only see the staff
I'm gonna give it like a three
brutal
Okay, all right, let's take a little bit of submission here. Oh
Bibi
Open warlock is looking very warlock. He got to say whoa, let's go with Dan's shoulders, too
Oh earthen dwarf. Yeah
Carrying Kalamazoo, that's a good feeling.
Use some rocks!
I don't like the cloak, but I think the rest of it works really well.
I'll give this an 8.6.
Got a little bun in the back.
Man, I don't think anything like super special was done here.
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.
This just looks, I don't know, more luck than Timmy.
I really like a 6.5, it's okay.
I have a DJ advertiser to get out of here, bro.
Sorry, I'm banning someone.
Get banned!
Very important. Very important work here. Don't worry. Pause. Pause.
Okay, there we go.
What is the final... Oh, he's stretching. Okay.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Okay, you guys might be controversial. I feel like it needs a cloak.
I feel like it needs a dress, like a robe.
Yeah.
I think it needs a robe.
Yeah, no robe.
It's very top-heavy.
Yeah.
Maybe it's on purpose though.
Probably it matches it does all match really nicely and like the sort of wings vibe
They've got the celestial wings thing weirding me out. I like it a lot actually
huh
This is a definitely a knife who inspired
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah trans mom here think having a robe would make it a nine
I'll get an eight point nine. Well, can you go down just a little bit?
the black lady just a little yet I think they've got show their shoes on see
that's a problem if you're trying to do is elitath yeah yeah that would tie it
together nicely I wonder if there is just like a wrap that you can have around
the lakes or something like that you know unfortunate I'm gonna go seven
point mom it is actually really good I like this a lot people like an 8.5 let's
Let's hope the dogs were out.
Okay, but it's-
The dog?
Okay.
Dodgy.
Wait, oh, this is a little bit of a rogue.
It's a little bit of a rogue.
I actually do like these rogue transmogs that are on, like, Windwalker Monks or something
like that.
Yeah.
Actually, they're pretty cool.
I think it can work on a Windwalker.
I feel like they're kind of similar in that regard.
This just kind of screams PvP Edgler to me.
It does.
It does.
It's also kind of annoying because the Windwalker isn't even fighting with their
weapons.
They're fighting with their fists and stuff.
This trans blog and I think of the guy who would like whisper you after losing to you. Yeah. Well, well you subcarried by gear
Yep, I'm not saying you are dodgy. This is just the mob kind of reminds me probably you might be pretty nice person
That means you captured a vibe with it, which is hard to do
So you gotta be in the aids for that for sure
And 9.1 9.1
7.7 okay my rating for dodgy
Let's take a look here.
Oh, the Insane title.
The Insane title.
Needs more cowbell.
Quick little alert.
That said, I don't love the hair.
They're not really nice to notice the vibe.
And I don't think that the...
Oh, the eye patch does.
Oh, okay.
I feel like the blue just clashes a little bit too much.
The rest of the gold setup they got going on.
I do really like those...
The molten, earthen shoulders, though.
Those shoulders are really nice.
It leaves the hair to tie it together, which I feel like kind of makes the blue work in a way, to be honest with you.
It's almost like Hercules of Aaron Archer, you know?
Mm-hmm.
But I feel like if the hair was fixed, I'm not sure which color you would make it, but something that clashes a little bit less.
Maybe like a green, the green would work.
Yeah, and the insane is also definitely not racking it up with another notch for me.
I'll give this a 9.2, right? You don't like need to work out well either?
Uh, that helps too. You know, but I gotta give this to respect to the insane my roommate in college got the insane title
Barely saw him for months
Came out and got the insane title
Okay, I'm gonna go 7.4
7.4
Give it a give it an 8
Did you give it a reading Jack? Yeah, I gave it it. Will I give it? I don't remember 9.1
9.1. All right. Well, thank you for submission. Let's take a look at the next one here
Oh, we're still waiting on them to pull
Other Zalatath inspired.
Red Spock, I believe.
I like the straight black all the way down.
That also would have been good for that other Zalatath
manga scene, it was just like straight black.
Instead of, like, skirts.
How about the shoulders?
I like the glasses too.
This might not be Zalatath inspired.
This might be more like a, it's like Zalatath's agent.
I was like, I mean, what was it?
What was the TV show that was based off of a book
about the angel and...
Oh, yeah, uh, good omens.
Good omens.
Yes.
I see of that a lot.
Yes!
I could see that.
That would be a really good, uh, that'd be a really good setup.
I could see that for sure.
And it's also got the, uh, that priest?
Yeah, it is a priest, um, staff.
That is, I want to say the PvP version of the Hidden Artifact
appearance for Holy Priest.
So actually using a Holy Priest artifact appearance for the Dissetup.
All right.
Oh, I don't want to jump-scary you, but it looks like we're back into pulls here.
Woo!
I give that a 9.2, Churchie.
That was a good one. I liked that a lot. Also good.
Yeah, 9.1.
Also, the first couple of percentages of this boss, I do want to remind people that at $15,000, we will place sandwich love, but it has to be within our block, which is only 24 minutes.
We have 24 minutes.
The hit song.
We'll get to $15,000 for the sign.
Almost won a Grammy.
What's that?
Almost won a Grammy.
Yeah.
Did they ever make another season of Good Omens?
Yeah.
Hmm.
Okay.
You do the mid one, or they're planning on making one.
Let's see what's the same. I think they've made a season 2 and there's gonna be a final season.
Okay.
Alright, they walk. They, uh, they wiped.
Back to the transmissions.
I thought there was like a huge break between them or something like that?
They were like setting up for a bunch of events.
There was a large break, yeah.
And then I was like, okay, where's season?
It's been like, four or five years.
Apparently there's not another one third season, because one of the actors got cancelled.
Huh. Recast.
I don't know, I'm just reading. Yeah, just recast.
Recast, make good content.
Right, stores it in.
Ooh.
This is a full set.
When something is too matchy, I get sus.
That's a set.
This is a T-Bose blade, right?
Oh, sorry, the actor, the author got canceled.
Oh.
Sorry, don't mean to backtrack the conversation, but it's the author.
Recast the writer.
Okay, let's see.
This is a chat.
Is it a full set?
I don't particularly care if it's a full set or not.
I know, I can be tricked.
I care.
I still enjoy it.
That's the thing, I don't know if I have enough knowledge to know every single
We'll set in the game and sometimes things just look good.
We do.
8.4.
This is a solid set.
Give it an 8.
8.2.
8.2.
Okay.
Okay.
Alright.
Ooh.
Starris.
Fliction lock.
Okay, I know like we've been saying- Oh man, that looks void colored as Zalatath, but
like this kind of has that vibe again.
Can I- Can I just go a bit?
This is like a massive Sanderson fan.
They're in the guild called the Knight's Radiant and they make Starris the Diplomat and then, yeah, she has the, uh, gosh, it's, uh, she got the glasses on, there's the glasses on.
Wait, like Brandon Sanderson?
Yeah, yeah.
That's the author?
Yeah, Starris is one of the characters in the second Mistborn series.
Oh.
That's Radiant referring to the Stormlight Archives.
Cool.
Starris is, um, it's, oh gosh, it's a term, she even calls herself this in the books of like a, like, something spinner.
But basically somebody who's very bookish, who's very introverted, who keeps to themselves,
she notably was the planner and was always planning for all these worst possible situations
that could happen.
I like these, what are these wings from?
Is that a...
They're banger.
Is that like a store mod or is that from this chat, say the term I'm thinking of
IA?
I know, I'm waiting for it.
Yeah.
A lot of people are impressed for you for recognizing that but I have not seen the
term that you are referring to. Yeah, she uh, she refers to herself that way in the books.
Oh, it's Boydolph-Earrake-Germany. That's cool. That's cool stuff. It's really good stuff.
I like that mug a lot. I'm gonna get that in 9.9. 9.5. That's a really good mug. Yeah.
Maybe 9.5 for the uh, I like when people reference things outside of WoW with their
Transmite, which is kind of hard to do, because it's not super customizable and it kind of
keeps to a certain aesthetic through World of Warcraft-E, which I feel like you've seen
them sort of break recently with a lot of their Trading Post stuff, especially.
Well, what it really needs is a die system, similar to what Final Fantasy has.
Oh my goodness.
A walk system.
Spinster.
She refers to herself as a spinster.
That's what it is.
Oh.
I wish Sandra said it was something that I kind of got into.
I was a huge, huge bookworm for like the first two-thirds of my life, but I've, you
know, the past 10 years, so I haven't really read that much.
I've never really gotten into Sandra something that much.
Well, didn't he write Wheel of Time?
No, he finished Wheel of Time.
He finished Wheel of Time.
Yeah.
the series I just never really got into. Well it's kind of hard to get into when
it's gonna take you decade to read the whole series right? That doesn't bother me.
That doesn't bother me at all. Well yeah I would definitely advise trying out
Mistborn if you haven't already. Yeah should take a look into it. You know how they
recommend like starting with that and then they have a second Mistborn series
which I would actually say is better than the first one and then honestly no
rush to start the Stormlight archive because it's continuing you know I've
Read the first five we have six coming out at the end of this year very excited for
And yeah, it's a journey
There's a lot of little short stories as well that are very self-contained warbreaker is an incredibly good like two three hundred page short story
It's fantastic cool. You think if I could just shoot through that in a day
Yeah, literally like it's a fantastic story like super easily consumable and then it's nice because there's a lot of little
Easter Eggs where, okay, you don't have to read this short story of Warbreaker, but it
kind of gets referenced in these other books, and so if you know, oh, it's a cool little
positive.
It's like a multiverse of books.
Exactly.
If you don't know, it doesn't do anything to the overall story.
It doesn't bother you at all or anything like that.
Yeah.
You were speaking about some of the embarrassing stuff earlier on.
I've got a story that is embarrassing because I remember it, and that it would not
be that big of a deal for most people.
So it's book related, so it's topical to our conversation.
So did you guys ever have like an accelerated reader program in your schools?
Yeah.
For those of you in chat who didn't have it, this was like an incentive to get kids reading
books.
So what you would do is you would read a book, then you'd go to your computer, and you'd
take a test based off of the book.
And it would ask you random questions about the character as the plot in the book.
And if you scored a 70% or higher, you'd get a certain point value associated to
the book.
So longer books would give more points, et cetera, et cetera.
And at the end of the year they'd usually do something like oh you could buy cool things with your points like you know
50 points would give you a $5 gift card to Tata or something like that. I don't know
Anyways, I was always one of those kids who was a bookworm and I just get a ton of points racked up throughout the year same
I remember for a month. I read Moby-Dack nice, which was a long the long long book
There's worth something like 90 points. It was crazy most most kids novels are like, you know in the teens
Yeah, yeah, I would breed all the Brian Jake's novels. Mm-hmm. There's like three
all the red wall books, all the red wall books, all of those were a couple of grade levels ahead of where I was at
and they were all very long, they all gave a ton of points and they were all amazing to read.
And then once I'd completed all of those, they had this like battle the books competition that they always wanted me to join
but I thought those books were boring and so I would just like refuse to join those even though I had like the highest AR score.
And so I ended up reading a book called Little Women, which is like the longest book I could
find in the library.
And it was about like, you know, like surviving on the frontier or something along those lines.
And that was like eight or nine hundred pages or something like that, and it was a slog
of a read.
But I remember doing it just to get like the AR points.
Wow.
Yeah.
To cap off my story, I finished everything.
Oh yeah, your embarrassing story.
Oh yeah, I didn't like it that much.
Yeah.
It wasn't that good of, it was an okay book.
Don't get me wrong.
It's a classic.
But like it wasn't as exciting to me as you know a 13-year-old as most other novels I'd read right into add insult to injury when I took the test
I got a 65%
Which means instead of getting any points. I got zero points all of the work that I did
You could you could retake them. I remember you had to wait like three days our school didn't let us retake them
Oh, that's that's nonsense
Yeah, they let me retake because I think I did have to retake for little women because there was just a lot and
And so, hey, we got an Avatar Last Airbender reference. Let's go.
Well, yeah.
What's going on?
I've never watched that show.
What?
Yeah, sorry.
I know. I know. I wish I had.
I tried to watch it now as an adult, but I couldn't get into it.
Yeah. I don't think there actually was directly a character named Azulon.
There was Azulah.
There was Azulah, yeah.
I think Azulon was like a, this was, you're named after your great-great-great-great-great-grandfather or something like that.
So that's kind of cool.
They went like deep in the lore to like what would they look like if they were also a panda? I dig it
Yeah, I like it. I dig it give it a point six. Yeah, this is solid
It puts you and you know also referencing the fire vendors into brewmaster monk with breath of fire. Yeah
Very nice. Okay. I'll get you all give it a nine as well. Whoa, okay? Whoa, man, that name
all right
You know this owns
I like it!
Nice!
I'm just stuck on the name here.
You nailed the vibe for the name.
Certainly did.
I'm gonna give you a 9 just for that alert.
I gotta give you a 9 as well.
What a banger.
Hell yeah.
Alright.
9 out of 10.
Oh, we're back to Starris.
Saw this?
Production likes it.
Yeah, I don't think we gave it a rating.
I'll give us a 10 out of 10.
Oh, 9 out of 10.
Dude, I might actually give it a Boyd Elf heritage just for those wings.
Seriously.
Very nice.
Oh, just put it all around.
Chop, chop, chop.
Any other ratings?
Do you have ratings and stuff for this one?
I don't know if we saw the weapon.
I think we're all in the 9s for this one.
Okay.
Sweet.
Saturn is the name of my cat.
Oh, really?
You're gonna submit your cat?
I might.
Shit.
It's for charity.
Alright, we've got a hunter.
A hunt of hunter here, hm?
Hair face.
Hair face?
Eye patch.
There is a patch.
submission oh my goodness yeah for cat very sweet cat let's see okay very
fluffy that's my favorite night I like this a lot me too
bumblebee like the double barrel blaster oh yeah I'll be this is like
that it's like a revolver gun the revolver rifle yeah kind of works yeah
I like it okay I guess an 8.8 I'll give it a 7.5 I can no longer see it be in
in a video game without thinking it'd be funny and be lovely.
I need to go play that fight, I think.
I need to go play through it.
Really, it's really fun production, says.
Good mug, though.
Yeah, it is a good mug.
Well, what do you rate it, Zyro?
Solid, let's.
It's not standing out to me.
OK.
That's fair.
And it's also giving me PTSD flashbacks to a fight
that was really tough to progress on.
So 7.7.
7.7, all right.
Whoa!
So OK.
Salty coming to win coming to play
It's crazy these these weapons I
We need a little die on the weapons
to go with everything else
But this is like
We're also missing a head. Yeah, I actually I think that works really well
I'm trying to remember there's some kind of like boss or like some anime had some like purple lead dude that like was all like blown up and
Didn't like flayed it and became like a massive monster
It's just reminding me of that, just like, uh, my brain.
Are you talking about it was a purple? What color was it?
Yeah, it was like purpley or pink or something like that.
As if it was black and red, it could have been a coup.
Yeah, from Samurai.
Yeah, maybe it was Samurai Jack.
That was a banger back then.
Alright.
Rating? I'll give it a 6. I'm sorry.
I'll give it an 8.
The weapons going a little bit off.
I love the claws. I don't really love the top of the weapons.
around where they rest around the risks.
I don't know.
I personally am just not vibing here.
All right, that's fair.
So, I'll abstain.
I'll abstain.
No comment.
Wow.
There you go.
Okay.
There's no comment.
Okay.
All right, let's take a look at the next transmog.
Also, real quick.
Hey.
Teal.gg slash rwf-donate.
It is $30.
I'm so sorry.
You can't submit a dollar.
We're trying to make money here for our shelter.
And if it was a dollar, we would never get through the end of these transmogs
So $30 and you could submit your pet on stream or your transmog ratings. I would just hand me a fake dog
Hey, and speaking of
Stormlight archive references and everything we have rendering. Oh, yeah
I love the the big two-handed mace here. You too. I like the I like how the hair
Stands out that doesn't sort of take away from like the rest of the setup. Yeah, really nice mod really clean
Yeah, before you get back into the pole here, I'm gonna give this an eight
Be nine point one nine point one. Hey, thank you for submission sending me Sanderson references
Team them all up. So do you guys still read a lot? Yeah, I just finished a series
I just finished the powder mage trilogy. Oh, yeah by
I uh, ee, ee, is it, is it McClellan?
I'll, I'm gonna double check, I might've just scuffed it, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna,
Anyway, I just finished the Power Maid's Trilogy, and he has another follow-up series that I'm about to get started, but then Race the World first got started, so...
Yeah?
It took away from my time for reading.
Yeah, I, I still read as much as I can.
I don't read a lot anymore.
Brian McClellan, sweet friend.
So I'm about to start Sins of the Empire, which is the second of the
So it's the second trilogy for the powder mage series pretty soon
huge fan I used to read a lot of
fantasy-based stuff. So did you ever read like?
Shinara, no
There are that like 20 of those series. I've been done like Wheel of Time ever but that's definitely like all my all my list
As well, I'm basically probably gonna finish up the powder the second powder mage trilogy
And then I think the next Stormline archive
I might try to start a whole new series or something like that, so it might do like Wheel of Time afterwards.
If I've pretty much expended all the Sanderson I can read.
Like everyone in their mom has read Ender's Game.
That was one of the most nobody has read the sequels and side trilogies for that series.
Right, I never read those.
Which of the classics did you really, really enjoy?
Classics meaning like the ones you would be like forced to read in school kind of
thing or a kind of a giver you know it was good love the giver
were you catch mine too nope that was fun that was really fun like somebody
there's supposed to be like three people in a plane and then two only two people
are in the plane third guys on the ground watching the plane with
everybody huh playing crashes into a mountain and they're like well the
docket says you were on the plane so you must be dead he's like but I'm
right here and they're like no but you're dead because you're on you're supposed to be on the plane
interesting yeah oh hatchet that was a good i didn't have to read that for sure but i did read it on
my own time treasure island i didn't have to read that oh my favorites where's some of the least
favorite ones you had to read for school most of them uh a lot of them what was uh the elite in
the odyssey uh those were uh what was um gosh what was his name he's always worried about the
phonies
catcher in the right i think yeah
i don't mind kid runs away from home just expense on it all his money and then
kinda just does whatever yeah yeah hated that one hated it honestly hated it
how to kill a mockingbird
uh... the bell jar
uh...
i think it's another one
i think there was another one that was about like expats
in europe
and i think it was called the sun also rises
where like, it's a bunch of Americans that like, hate America
and then they just go around Europe and then drink
and then they just get miserable
and they go watch like the run in the bulls.
I just remember everybody being like
very unhappy together.
And I was like, they don't.
This doesn't seem like a fun time.
I was like 13 or 14 reading it.
Flowers for Elgerheim?
That was a tragedy.
Oh my gosh.
I love that book.
That was a tragedy.
Well, actually, didn't chat.
Two, it's two Kilomonghi bird, my bad.
Jesus.
Alright, let's take a look at some pets here.
Get back on to talking about reading in school in a minute.
I can talk about reading all day.
$30.
Boy, cats!
I meant yours, Caster and Pollux.
Aw.
Getting along well?
Yeah.
Very green eyes.
Perfect. It's very sunny in this room.
Yeah.
Very nice.
Okay.
The over shoulder looks you get for like,
are you feeding us soon?
Yeah.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Aw.
I'm gonna let you see it. Thank you for your submission, sir.
Thank you for your submission, sir.
$100. And you could submit your animals or your transmog.
Hmm.
I was wondering why this happens, Iroh.
Hmm. Why is it that you can get into the Mark of Paranoia fields and receive the buff before the cast completes? Did you notice that?
Uh...
So the field goes down, but you don't have to sit in there the entire time.
Like, TG...
You just have to touch it and go back out.
Yeah, TG's already out and like repositioning.
Yeah, that's interesting.
weirds going in a silly the second you touch it you get it so yeah yes it's a
good change or a good thing that exists but I noticed that in beta as well yeah
it's surprising since there's like a cast that I thought end of the cast would
apply that one the cast is the time that you can get the buff at the end of this
cast if you don't have a buff you are dead you go kablooie that is true
What language classes did you guys take in school German German?
Alerted you some bit of Spanish working at a restaurant. Yeah, still know any of it. Hmm.
I learned a lot of context clues. Yeah. Yeah.
And then specific words individual words here and there. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
You kind of picked them up in America?
Mm-hmm.
My school didn't offer German.
They offered French and Spanish.
Shroggamon is a new town.
What was it?
German is kind of a tough language, because, like, yes,
instead of one-to-one representations of words
like you get in a lot of other languages,
they kind of just stick them all together.
Yeah, they do.
Yeah.
They love compound words.
I mean, in a way, though, that means you have to learn less words.
You could probably guess a word by just putting some together.
Conjugation is actually what threw me for a loop.
Learning masculine, feminine and noitrum, noitrum, I think is what it was, neutral.
And getting corrected on like the chair is like neutral or like the chair is like feminine or masculine, like just broke my brain.
That was very, very difficult for me to like comprehend at the time. So I did two years of it and then that was it.
Of Spanish?
Of German.
Oh, German, German.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was a lot of big fan languages.
You are a big kid?
Was not.
Not.
Yeah.
I am.
I just couldn't do it.
I struggled.
I think the way that they taught it in public school didn't work for my brain.
I really liked how, I really liked my teacher though.
She was great because she would only, from the very beginning, only speak in German the
entire time.
That's smart.
She refused to speak to us in English.
I was rude.
It was also kind of fun because the first year it was like playing charades the entire
time.
Because she was like, she would help us.
She would like act out, like drive in the car and like, you know, obviously
There's a number of like German words or English words that are like fairly similar and you can kind of like weave them together
So yeah, part of it was like playing charades with the class and everybody would be forced to like work together to figure it out
Yeah, interesting
But the other one like the unfortunate side of it is like even if I stuck to it
there's not really a lot of people like practice speaking German with in
At least in whatever bubble I lived in you know
I wish they would do what they do in like your people just like basically everywhere else that is in an English
We can put it where you learn it from kindergarten and you take an English class every single year like they should do that
With Spanish here. I feel like that'd be pretty cool. That would be great. Yeah, very useful
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Her quick recap for those just tuning in on this encounter. There's a number of repeat mechanics from heroic
Obviously, we have to deal with some of the frontals and some for the void zones each of the bosses are spawning
But on mythic difficulty you're splitting the team up into two groups a couple of players are gonna have some these like 10 out of 10 or
or a 0 out of 10, equal rose to mark how many players are still alive.
There's going to be a red team and a blue team,
and you're going to see those circles around the players for the entirety of the fight.
Most of the unavoidable mechanics, like this rain falling from the sky right now,
is going to deal a bunch of damage, but also spawn moats.
These moats need to be picked up by the opposing sides.
You see on the right side of Big Poppy's screen, just to the right of his character,
he's going to have a little countdown there for his moat.
You could pick up up to two stacks, and then you have to wait for them to fall off.
If you receive a third stack, then you instantly die and can no longer be
rezzed for the rest of the encounter. As you can see once again, another round of rain coming out,
dropping moats, and then the entire team needs to shift and start soaking the opposing
side's moats. Here we have a really quick combination of mechanics so they have to
run across, soak these moats incredibly quickly before they expire. When they
do. If a red-air orb expires, it debuffs everybody on the blue team with a stack of moats.
So some of those that soaked two moats, they might get a third stack, instantly die, unable to be
resed, and they are done for the rest of the encounter. Yeah, in addition to that, just
every mechanic is also amped up in difficulty, as is typical for heroic to method those webs
that you have to use three of to block the charge on a method instead of just two on heroic.
They're also doing a significant amount of damage to the players that obtain them.
In addition to that, the pulsing damage in these intermission phases also
rocks some of those motes. So it's a constant dance throughout the entire phase of players moving
in a circle to dodge the players behind them and also collect their motes. So it's a pretty
difficult phase because not only are you still trying to beat the DPS check of the shield,
but you lose are having to deal with ramping damage and you are constantly moving around the
the boss in order to make sure these moats don't explode and go away.
Here you can see the choreography in mind as you're seeing piles of melee players
moving together making sure that they're able to avoid the webs the boss is
spewing out and also make sure they're soaking up enough of these moats so that
they're not detonating. You can see when they're going to detonate with
those large swords on the screen that you see slowly falling from the sky
once they impact into those specific orbs they're going to detonate and
and spread that moat debuff around to everybody.
The challenge right now is making sure the first phase and that first intermission that you just saw
is as consistent as possible because we're going to be seeing it every single time in pretty much the same order.
What that means is that you have to have all of your allies basically operating the same way
because when you need to pick up certain moats, they need to be in the same location every time.
When the bosses are dragging in one team and inflicting with them with webs,
You need to make sure you're not getting dragged through another opposing player of the opposite color because then you get
Instantly killed fortunately a whole bunch of those modes of rage went off there
Instantly causing half of the ray to die
And it's going to be reset and go again, but we've got some good news don't we?
Yeah, we do have some good news. We did make it to fifteen thousand dollars with no time to spare
We are even over fifteen thousand dollars a little bit. Thank you so so much everyone for being so generous
We are at $15,000 and $15,050 for our charity fundraiser for the Santa Monica Animal Shelter.
It's going to such an incredible cause to help local dogs and cats that need homes, that need medical care.
They're a great organization. They're so excited to work with us again this year.
And also that means we get to look at some more pet pics.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, this is Stewart.
This is Stuart on the Team Liquid staff.
He is so amazing on the staff.
He helps out with a lot of the stuff that the guild does.
We love Stuart and I love Seymour also.
Oh, it is so great.
You got these got a rope in his mouth there.
Yeah, that's such a.
It's he obsessed.
It's such an amazing.
Oh, no take only throw.
That's right.
Oh, kind of visor on Jeep dog.
That looks like a.
Yeah, got the doors off you gotta gotta protect the dog through oh yeah, he's got a little he's strapped in he's gonna see
It's also yeah, it's just it's on the the band of leaders like on the back. Yeah
Pretty smart
Nader I think I don't know what that name is but not here. No
Oh
Do you think what game do you think they play?
Definitely overwatching League.
Is that Ash?
Not just League.
Did Ash also League here?
Yeah.
One of the original AD carries.
Sorry to call them marksmen now, marksmen.
Oh, oh, oh.
Yeah, League's never something I got into.
Oh, yeah, that would have went over my head.
I'm actually so excited for Arcane though.
Arcane, yes.
Oh, I'm so excited.
As a non-League player, I'm like, I hope this all goes well here at Lore, but this is a good story.
Those are who list pets. We'll get them back up there. We only got a half a second with them.
Stars. Yes. So somebody asked me if the drops are the same on all channels. They are indeed.
They don't have to watch four hours on one stream. It's four hours, right?
Yeah, four hours total.
Yeah, just four hours total so you can watch one wild streamer and finish it off with us, or vice versa, whatever.
You can finish it with one team liquid stream or you'd have all the different player streams up
You know it's become the team liquid icon at the bottom of the video player and then sort between a liquid Raiders that you wanted to wash
Follow them all check them all out. Oh, I'm bad drops ended last Thursday. Oh, oh
Okay, although I don't know what today's date is and also don't tell me
It is sometime in September. It is a day. It is a day
Thanks.
The days, and diplom together, there is a world first time.
They kind of do.
Yeah, I have to remind myself to take a moment and make sure I'm saying hi to everybody, making
sure I'm talking to everybody that I might have missed on the past couple of days.
It's like, today's go by quick.
Before you know it, you're back home.
Sometimes they'll pull me over to do an interview because we're filming a documentary here
and they'll be like, okay, what day is it?
I'm like, oh, tough question to start on.
exactly shares. If you're just now tuning in, we are still progging on Mythic, the Silicon
Court. We are at 70, well 76 here, our best bull being 63.43% that we got just a couple
of pulls ago. They're really taking their time right now between pulls. That's indicative
that they're really discussing a lot, really moving through how to figure out how to do a
lot of these mechanics, which you see a number of them right in the beginning of the fight.
So just kind of working on smoothing things out, getting that muscle memory down pat.
Right now they're rotating clockwise, counterclockwise, excuse me, around the room, trying to avoid these sort of frontals that come out from the boss in a rotational pattern.
You can even see how tightly clustered together a lot of those orbs are.
You have to be so precise in your soaks that you don't accidentally run through three orbs.
I think we might still be in a situation, by the way, where we're figuring out which classes are still good for this fight.
Probably.
As you can see, we have two evokers and one's Og, one's Dev, they might be seeing which of those is the better one to play right now still.
But we are through to phase two once again, so let's see again how they plan on dealing with these web snaps into the debuff debuff spells,
because this has been a pretty tough part of the fight for them to get through.
It really has, and there's a number of mechanics all kind of throwing themselves out there at once.
It's very important to watch out for the stinging swarm debuffs that are going to be going out in just a second,
as those need to be dispelled on top of Takaj, the taller of the two bosses, in order to properly stun it.
And whenever you're dispelling those debuffs, they also deal a ridiculous amount of damage to the entire raid,
meaning it's so important to be stacking a lot of healer cooldowns on top of each other to force your-
force heal your way through these problems.
Oh, they got it done this time around, but at the expense of at least three of their build members, so...
It's pretty tough. Pretty tough to deal with.
But we got through the first one of the phase. Each phase is going to have two of the main mechanics.
We see two of the web snaps in phase one. We're going to have two dispels.
Two sets of dispels, I'd say, actually, in this phase, and before we get to the next intermission.
And of course, at the end of the fight, this is all going to result in some culmination of a DPS check
where you have to get the boss down before the end rages.
So we're still trying to optimize damage at some point, but again, similar to Void Princess,
similar to Ruge Wister. We're just trying to get familiar with the mechanics first, and as always,
the damage will come later.
It will and that's really a huge area where when it comes to like yes output for example
There's going to be the emphasis upon making sure
They're trying to adjust their positioning so that they can maximize uptime for when that time comes
There's always a little something for everybody to really end up figuring out for all of these pulls
even if you're waiting on a certain like tank positioning or wait waiting on
on certain other players for great positioning
and optimizing them.
Every single member of the group has something
to be focusing on right now.
Why did we just get handed instruments?
I could find out.
What are they cooking?
They've got little, I don't know.
At least for, oh my God, it's here.
Oh my God.
I was told Newn improved sandwich love.
They said Newn unique sandwich love.
That was my bad, that was my bad.
Why is it backwards?
Let's do that.
That's the one.
Yeah, it doesn't...
No, the way around.
Really?
There you go.
Stupid jokes that we milked out of those watermelon.
You're just complaining.
He's just waiting for you to talk again.
I'm learning. I'm learning quickly.
We did our orchestra last night.
I need some more practice here.
Oh my god.
Practice.
Sometimes I wish we were a little bit more separated from the players because they're in there
working really hard, being super serious, very strenuous hours, and we're doing stuff
like this.
It's a little demoralizing.
Now we're scaring Luna too.
Oh no.
I'm sorry Luna.
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I hate this.
I'm so sorry.
Here we go.
So let's say right there was kind of like this.
Like we dodged here and they dodged here
from their frontal.
Let's say we did it correctly.
So we bait off and then we get here.
And then it goes like the boss goes here, right?
It would be in this scenario, which is the only one
that's difficult.
It would be blue, left, red, right?
Is that the deal?
Is it if that's interesting what we did?
So it's obvious?
And you know what I have to think?
Well, there's a scenario where it's not obvious.
Right, like here?
Like we did, it's always obvious.
Because no matter where it's here,
it's always the closest.
Like we're here where it's not obvious.
Because now we're both standing.
The scenario that I'm doing on them are so,
so what if it ports like this,
where the boss, so what we did there,
this is actually how it happened.
So we were both here,
because we both dodged the frontal from this direction
and the boss ported here, that's what happened.
Yeah, so we were both there closest.
So what you're saying is,
we actually don't stand across from each other,
we stand like this.
Yeah, and it's easy.
This is really, the frills just.
Oh, you would,
you would much prefer to stand across from each other.
I mean, if anything,
Because maybe you just want to do a rule that you dodge the frontal always on the left
and then you will end up being a cross-octagonal because look at the same scenario
but just the blue group dodges the frontal left.
Okay.
And then the-
The other group dodges their frontal left?
Yeah, and then it's quite more obvious what happens now, right?
Correct, except it could just pour here.
Yeah, but I feel like this is still more obvious than the scenario we had before.
Basically, if the groups are opposite of each other, it's a lot easier to understand where
you're supposed to go, kind of.
Correct.
Because if it goes here, it's obvious.
Here, here, here, here, here, here, and here, here, here, here, here, but here and here,
there has to be set size.
Because it equally makes sense for both groups to go both directions, so you have to have
a scenario where you fix it.
Or maybe the warlocks just each say left, right, and then they get and they figure
out it's too fast right so like you just have to rip it like the only way I
could tell where he was going before I could push my gaze I literally looked
at him and saw where he was all boarding because he was right each D got
yeah I can actually show you your problem he like looks and does the
fucking pick his fuck cast and I just stared him down oh wait okay is there
any kind of logic or it's like it's wise always goes on the other spots when it
jumps random goes where he's feeling it because we're in the same spots every
pole right and he alternates so I feel he has to be random the the uh he gets
done with being fixated then he's doing a frontal okay so yeah you just want to
dodge these frontals to the left I can call that each final dodges to the left
and then the warlock just have to look for this guy is porting after he
this is from he looks. Okay, so he's looking that way. So you knew is there so
that's based on late. Okay. Yeah, but normally this would be obvious. This would
be an obvious one, except blue is just in the wrong spot. Blue should be here. If
everyone dodges from us alive, it should be obvious unless the boss ported
here or the boss ported there, in which case, like I'm saying, this is a
possibility one out of whatever chance, but we need to have a system for what
happens when it imports a direct north and south of it doesn't matter if you're
here or here or anything it's always possible for it to port here here and
you decide it's always below left there like right in the case right yeah
correct yeah make sure you move left from your frontal you should happen like
when we get it there yeah just use my public else was I alive or was hard up
alive a part of his life yeah or I don't know if he's alive but I could see
is BV where it was relevant. Okay, so right here this how did all these people
done? Oh, we did a red orb blow up.
Thank you.
Just uh, some people went to the wrong side.
Oh, sure. Okay. Uh, so it's here. The red, the red group got there in time. This would
have been perfect. And then the second group just has more time to get in position
right? Except you guys should have gone like this, right?
Yeah, I mean, I got the wall with the wall.
You're fucking off that.
I'm not sure.
Is it hard to go to the wall with the wall there?
No, no, it's fine.
No, it's not.
Because we're the first group.
Your partner just goes further right?
Yeah, we're the first group.
So as long as you set up, I mean, it's hard to be with your partner.
So like, I mean, well, yeah, that's why we're getting a week
or that assigns you to go left or right when you get sucked in.
Yeah, I mean, it's hard to still be with your partner
because it's just going to be random if you get it
and like try to pre-spread a bit.
like that. It's fucked.
You guys is another field trip. Like for now, for now,
you guys don't have the left and right thing. So whether you go left or right,
you can pick either. You just have to snap your web after.
It's a little suboptimal, but we can play it.
And after this, we're just getting on each side of the boss.
Blue would be here, red would be here.
And then you're just doing a second to spell and then the boss is going to
port middle. You'll probably do like two dispels before mid,
but you're just going to follow the boss mid here.
And then you would move the new brass you would pre move. Yeah, you would pre move a new mid
So this frontal isn't at the boss during the amp
That's a yip thing. That's a possible a pre gateway the protect mode to cancel the point and diary
Yeah, boy
Other people have like the boss
Like a little orzing to sector
though. Well, you don't need to be like, the orbs be exact same. If you did like a really
like a Kil'jaeden gate, like on the bullet, pretty true. So yeah, so what you could do,
not saying we should change anything because this works. If we like basically the Boston
the middle and a new newb is in the middle with us, we're sitting in newb and we don't
want to deal with that vortex. So instead of actually making our way to Skynespin
there. We just stay in the middle. We just stay in the middle and gate the like your web
vortex specifically. So like you would just each group would be here. You'd be like right
around the gate. I guess you could just do it like this actually make it more easy to
see. You'd want to make it long each side. Yeah. Yeah. You just make it as long as
possible and then you would all just you do it in your rotator. We rotate right.
Right. So blue would gate right here and red would gate right when they're getting
gripped oh this is this is way better right and then you're in the middle already
from today you're already in well yeah you might want to after this after you
soak you might want to drag the boss to her for cleave but you could already be
in the middle for the spells yeah if you wanted to also you are good so the
web oh this is fucking yeah but like I think this is ten times easier to do
this goats that is yeah this is having ever go to the wall is a bad
I think we're getting to suck yet. You know you're getting sucked because like the web's on your group right and you just need to be
Like mid gateway when it's okay?
Well, you can't attend we're never we quarrel for the casting
There's a bar, but I don't know if it distinguishes who's first and second
You can it's visual like you can see a web on everyone has its casting
I guess it's enabled in bars if you want to have a good timer for the ball
Oh, I would yeah, definitely everyone should have that then turn that on you just now witness your suck which is what they call the web
You should
Called web what a poor test. Yeah, it does to you that there's like two cast of the pole
There's two second long cast you probably want to get it like one and a half maybe on your suck. I don't know
That's a good good time, but
You can actually practice this
Um
Reset the boss real quick and then all of red go to red all blue go to blue
I'll let him do it
I thought we could rework for you because I'm not replaying.
What?
Well done, dog.
It didn't work.
So we're just gonna troll today?
What's, man?
Your lives are full of fakes!
Okay, just die real quick and rest.
We're gonna have to reset it again.
Can reset it, right?
Artup didn't actually try to reset it.
He missed with his thing before he greater invized and then he ran up and...
I don't think you understand what I try to do, but yeah, I try to reset it.
Oh yeah.
The inviz reset, but...
Oh, so inviz doesn't work in.
it does it does it just the melee thing doesn't work oh we can reset it okay we
will have fired I've tried it yet might all die again that would be hype
or you got this man you got this in Norway and then I saw a lot changing his
mic settings bro okay so all of red go to red all blue go to blue all right
warlocks you do your gate adjacent blip blip blip do your gate adjacent to
the right then TC you do it from the group it get on your yeah and then you
put it just to the right fucking just like that okay get away from the boss
fired up reset it again okay I thought it was right you know it was going to the
red boss man okay we're setting now this is just how it'll be in the mission
yeah it's okay fine we'll get to your spot if you're blue good now warlocks
put your gates down. Good. And blue you're getting sucked in three, two, one. And red
you're getting sucked in, you get it. Yeah, just suck in gate.
And then if you get, if you actually, if you get webbed you die.
And then you just put it around the gate.
Are we like turbo far from each other? Or is, are the orbs gonna be here?
No, no, you're literally gating, you're gating right next to where their fucking
orbs are. It's like really easy.
Okay.
There's just no web visual on that, so I don't know.
Is it the cat from your slope? I'm still stupid.
Dude, what was the last time, if we end up doing this,
what was the last time we did a boss where you needed at least two gateways?
Not like you wanted, but you needed.
I don't think you needed it at all. This is like overly hard for no reason.
Like what if someone just misses the gateway and dies?
And someone misses the gateway and it causes you to be left.
I'm pretty sure if you got gripped, you could just roll.
You could just like roll.
You could get the analyst's channel to roll.
You wanna just check that as well?
I think this is so easy, like what they're doing is hard to do, like actually so simple.
Slingshot.
Ah, this is too far back, okay.
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No, I like it.
I told them right before we got down.
I was about to do something incredibly trolled,
and so I had to deliver.
That you did.
Yes.
We've been doing it for a while, actually,
but I'm going to bring the level down a bit.
How's Silicon Court Prague been going?
I think we've been watching polls for a few hours
this morning.
Method and Echo were also able to down the Nexus
Princess Kaiveza around the beginning of their day.
And so they've also been Prague in the boss.
What have we been seeing from this fight so far?
Yeah, it's been something.
I think this was one of those bosses
that when we came into it,
we were expecting potentially one of the hardest of all time.
And I've actually been impressed
with how much Prague has been able to get made on this fight.
One thing that has been weird as well
is it's another fight where you can one tank it,
which I saw that.
Yeah, it seems like the piercing strike attack
is just not doing as much damage as it would need to do
to prevent that from being a viable strategy.
You can just tank it a bunch of times
to then have one DPS player take it once every like five
and reset the stacks on your tank that way.
Would you ever actually commit to one tanking it
or do you think that that's something?
Cause I feel like to me that's something
that Blizzard is likely to just change.
So Blizzard has already apparently hot fixed it
to prevent it from going away on death, the debuff.
That's not actually the problem this time,
unlike with Kaiveza where that would have fixed
the one tanking.
This time around it's just that it doesn't do enough
damage, so it can be, you can tank it a bunch of times and then you can have a DPS player
just taunt it and reset it once, so I think they probably just need to make that debuff,
yeah, maybe increase the multiplier on it. I heard maybe it just wasn't working as well
and not enhancing the damage.
I wouldn't be surprised at this point.
Yeah.
I could buy that.
This fight was crazy during PTR testing.
It feels like the damage in this fight has been tuned down a decent bit, almost across
the board for most abilities, which that tank that debuff like you mentioned might
have been caught in that but one thing we saw them employing early on was there
was a strategy where you could sort of stack half the raid with a color deep
yeah and just see a lot into the fight was just that whatever a moat expires it
only kills people of the opposite color yeah and so you can progress the fight
a decent chunk well you can get the timers and everything with just ten
players alive as you know we have had a tank actually die here the way do you
It's a rare occurrence.
He died, it looked like largely it was Venom Bolts on his deathplug, which is the, so the,
if you're one tanking you do have to tank both the Scarab and the Skane Spinner.
Oh, is that the type of mod that it is?
I don't know.
Yeah, well the Skane Spinner is the title of the tall one and then the Scarab is
a long one.
Oh, okay.
The long one.
The long one.
Yeah, exactly.
The taller than the long one.
And it does blast you for a reasonable amount of, you know, poison bolt damage.
Like that was something that I'm not sure if that was the first thing that went wrong on that pole
Hmm. Please use the American style of describe the hamburger and the hot dog one. Right, the hamburger and the hot dog.
This is gonna be an interesting fight because there's like we talked about there's a lot of ways to approach this by progression wise percentage wise though
It doesn't
There's obviously a first second third here, right?
But it doesn't necessarily mean you're the furthest ahead with the lowest percent because you can sort of yeah similar to almost like
Fallen avatar in the past you can see most of this fight if you do like
They suck half the rate to see the whole fight the time was hit in rage, but there's so much damage to make up, right?
There's yeah 70% almost in these bosses, so you've seen it
But you're not anywhere near killing this fight at this point
And what you also need to know about the boss too is that the timers are like pretty static
It is so very very predetermined. Yeah, so it's a pretty determined fight in terms of like what you're gonna be seeing
So if you want to
You basically can go and see all the way up until the end of the fight
Get the entire timers and entire script for the entire thing and then pre-plan your movement pre-plan
and what's going on, because the major mythic mechanic here is going to be the Marks of Rage
and the Marks of Paranoia, and occasionally the boss is like this rain, and then it summons
moats that are beneath that have to be stoked by the opposite colored mark, and so in addition
to that, these Mark players can't be contacting other colored marks, and so there's a bit
of a dance that has to be done, particularly in the intermission, whenever the hotdog
one goes into the middle, and is doing that web phase, the hotdog in the hamburger,
The hot dog exactly, the hot dog goes in the middle and is doing that one face.
They're basically having a soak a bunch of motes and you see them like gating around.
We actually heard during the listening, they were talking about needing two warlocked gateways.
Yeah, one for each group, which is, would be the first time since I think Kahoon,
that that second gateway has been like integral to a strategy.
Although there were some people in the raid that were talking about not,
well it wasn't really needed unself though, it was nice to have.
Yeah.
It didn't really matter.
You could solo one, yeah.
Yeah, but it was nice to have for sure.
But they were talking, some of the people in the raid were talking about that not being necessary
So I'm not sure that that will remain a core part of the strat going forward
One thing that has been interesting as well is I was kind of expecting this fight to be
Okay, we've got two groups and they just stick on top of each other the whole time
That's not actually how they're playing this mechanic
They kind of have a set of three range of each mark that are kind of playing near each other
And they're obviously not trying to touch each other
But trying to be close enough that they can soak each other's motes
and then there's the other 14 players that are all in melee of the boss in two groups of seven.
During the intermission as well you have people partnering up with somebody with the opposite mark as them
and playing near them, but again not on top of them, and just instantly soaking each other's motes,
which does make a lot of sense. You do have to have some traffic rules for this to work out,
but it does mean that your range actually gets to be at range of the boss, which is awesome.
Stay in your lane right now, stay in your lane.
I think it's counterintuitive to how you would like try to do the boss on like first attempt.
Yeah, it definitely does make sense another thing that we saw that was different from ptr
Testing was the the web wrappings that like drop on the ground that the you saw the players
Getting tethered to one another those only drop on marks of rage
Color players correct. That's right
Yeah, so you can sort of date where those are gonna be very reliably based on where you're where you're 10 marked rage players are
It makes it a lot more consistent. I would say it makes it a better mechanic all things considered
Yeah, for sure
Even coordinating a heroic if your partner's not aware what's going on here. It's a bit of pain
You also need six players three total web stop that boss charge of the wall
So not one normal two her open free mythic, but so if this this is the hot bug in this case
This is hard
This is a difficult intermission is because they continue to get a bunch of those moats spawning at right
so so basically you have your two groups in the boss and the boss groups are spinning around and
You're going and soaking the moats where the other group was and this was how I thought this intermission would work
The one change is that there are a few ranged players that are more static, playing a lot more like the Kybeza intermission,
sort of on those lines between the slices.
And as long as you have a partner with the opposite color that's near you, you can then just soak each other's moats while doing that.
I think that makes sense too, because some of the ranged DPS on this fight, I think like the Desterlock.
Exactly, yeah.
DHT's not trying to run around his boss all the time.
I mean, he can with like...
I mean, you can, but like it's not optimal.
Yeah, you want to be careful, you want to be planted.
Yeah, I think in general we expected a more range heavy comp looking at PTR testing and stuff
This is also like a council boss fight right classes that can cleave good council damage where there's warlocks or other
Just strong cleave classes in general, but looking at the actual comp here. I mean you got two DKs two warriors a
Lot of melee in here. There's a lot of mobility required in this fight, right?
And some I mean range have a decent they can sort of deal with that at times
But there's a lot going on a lot of warps of soap and
Honestly fills we have a time and I think that's in the boss
You're doing soap mechanics or rotating around the boss.
Yeah.
Yeah, I was thinking this fight was going to be very hostile to range because I thought you were going to have to be in a stack of ten
moving the whole time and then going around which would suck for like all non-BM hunter range.
But right the way that they've set this up to let some of their range players have a little bit more of a static position
Makes a lot of sense to me.
What do you think the goal is for today?
Just to see as far into the fight with everybody alive as possible and then come back tomorrow with a new reset worth of gear?
No, I think they don't want to make much prog. I think they kind of want to just okay
Do we just call it? It's good. I'll call it early. It's dinner. We want to go barbecue today
Chores what they still need to do. I think they got a lot of chores done yesterday after they pulled this boss a little bit
So there is some incentive though to make sure that you filled out great vaults as we are approaching that reset
Although the m plus great vault
Kind of sucks. It's myth one. Yeah here, which is not all that much better than just hero for gear
You can get in a lot of her upgrade.
You're not going to necessarily have enough myth track.
Oh, well actually there's crafting tomorrow.
Yeah, tomorrow's spark comes out.
Although using a spark, it's very expensive on gilded crests to use a spark with an enchanted
gilded crest, right?
You're paying 90 gilded crests to get a 636.
So that's six upgrades that you could potentially use to get more item mobiles across myth
updates upgrading.
I mean it sort of depends right, a lot of people made a staff early on at the 200st
Yeah, the staff was good value because you were getting two sparks with one enchanted guild of crest
Well they have saved their guild of crest so...
Well you get 90 more next week
You have to send them on the Herok here but I guess I'm assuming that they're going to craft something with guild of crest
I don't know
I think a lot of people won't
I think that for most race world first players they're going to have better upgrades to send than 90 into another crafted beast with having already made one
They might actually just send it on a ring or something like that. Yeah, and they'll have another enchanted ruined crest
So they can make a 619 crafted piece of some
That I'm convinced I think that will be the most common pattern here
You're probably right now. I'm thinking about it. Yeah, I mean you'll resource all after pretty highly there is the rare neck and rare ring
But still yeah in terms of long-term value
It makes
Maybe a little bit more sense to craft something with the gilded crests
But in terms of like, you know immediate value for yeah for a first competitor
Especially also since the fact that they can get one to potentially even three upgrades from like re clear tomorrow right on that myth track
It does make sense for them to actually be able to save those is guilty crests for the future. Yeah, it's definitely an interesting crafting system
I'm sure there will be people making both of those decisions, but I think like this week. We saw I think predominantly
Gilded crests onto a staff and then I think next week is probably gonna be one of your free enchanted rune crests onto some like bracer's or something to
But the, you know, Nervir being webbing on instead of a PvP off base.
We were looking at how they played 26 unique characters through the first four bosses.
Yeah, of the raid, and we were kind of questioning like, for what reason are they doing this?
Because that's pretty atypical.
Right, you normally end up running.
You don't run like an optimized comp, or you don't try to get that many characters
in for the first couple of bosses.
But now it seems to be paying dividends since they've ran so many characters through
each and every single boss.
And the specific characters are good at very specific things like the Frosty K was excellent
at Brute Twister and it's excellent at this boss.
It wasn't great at Nexus Princess, for example, and so the things that some of these specs
are good at, there's a lot of specs that are incredibly powerful at niche damage types,
and so you end up needing more and more characters than ever before.
And I think we're probably going to come out of this raid.
This might be the largest amount of characters out there.
I think this is the most diverse raid we've seen, Compoise, in a very, very long
time.
Rear station evokers, multiple frost decays,
five of them on sick retpaladin.
Yeah, retpaladin, exactly, yeah.
These are things that are getting swapped in and out.
The holy paladin is being swapped in and out.
There's been a wrestler in the shaman
that's been swapped in and out.
Yeah, I was looking at it yesterday,
that there's 39 specs in the game
and only really six of them haven't been used
seriously during race world first proc.
When I looked at it, apparently two of those
have actually been experimented with as well.
So maybe even three.
Which six are those, right, Nosti, though?
So I had survival hunter, prop warrior, fire mage,
Misweaver monk, Resto Druid, and Shatter Priest as ones that hadn't really been seriously used.
Apparently people have been experimenting with Shatter Priest, Fire Mage, and Prott Warrior.
Okay.
Among the top three guilds in the world is what I'm sort of looking at for this.
Yeah.
And again, none of those have been used in the world first kill.
There's a couple other specs that haven't been used in the world first kill as well.
Right.
But, you know, like, Vengeance DH was used for three tanking open acts on Prague,
but then it wasn't actually used for the kill type thing, so...
I don't know. I mean, it's been a very exciting tier from that end.
From the end of planning around it being a two reset tier, if they don't kill Silicon
Court today, a lot of that actually will backfire, right?
Like we didn't play DHD on Olgrax because the idea was, okay, it's a two reset tier,
DHD is going to get a six box from bosses two through seven.
If we don't kill boss seven, all of a sudden, oops, we should have DHD on Olgrax to
get his last slot in the vault.
So there may be some people here with odd numbers of boss kills that go into the
week based on them assuming they would be able to get seven bosses this week and
maybe only ending up with six that could potentially be a big advantage as
well for Echo and Method they're gonna have more time on this boss due to the
EU advantage of having a later reset so they might be able to kill this on
their first reset and get that in their vaults. Yeah I don't believe this boss
vaults today anywhere though just to clarify I think we're pretty far off
from killing this boss I think at the earliest it's Wednesday night probably
I mean like we've seen the end of this fight in a sense I think most
skills have probably gotten to that point, but there's so much damage to find here.
They're at 60% still.
Dude, the chat, the chat made you do it for saying that.
Oh, you wrote really?
That was controversial.
I love how your hand tagged us.
It just flew over my head.
I don't even like it.
Don't worry about it.
I'll tell you about it later.
I gotta wake up, man.
Let's do a run for this.
I'm just unbiased.
I don't show my favoritism anywhere.
I see.
Neither do we.
That's why we casted for record of that.
I play both sides of the fence here.
My favoritism is for sale every tier, so...
Oh, we're getting paid for this?
Oh, oh, oh.
Um...
That'll look so lost.
Yeah, back to this boss as well.
How much do we think this boss will get nerfed by a few extra item mobiles?
Because I'm kind of thinking that this is not a boss that gets much easier with more gear.
I don't think it...
Like, maybe we will get to an enrage, but...
Except for that, I feel like most of this is mechanics, not numerical.
So there's a couple of things that get easier with gear.
First of all, we're just holding that tether for a longer period of time,
especially whenever you have to stun the beetle, this big scarab that's on the screen.
Right.
Holding that tether is going to be a lot less danger.
Also, a couple of the intermissions and whatnot.
You know, you're going to be taking a little bit less damage than you would otherwise.
I also wonder if we're going to end up watching up the comp at all.
Yeah, I mean, we've already seen experimentation with this.
I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard do something to remove one tanking as an option on this fight.
Potentially that would be a change on the reset because it would maybe make sense to a company with an offsetting nerf to
Not be increasing the difficulty of the boss mid-frog if they if they don't want to do that
I wouldn't be shocked if we actually see some notes that talk about nexus princess
Yeah, probably that are on the teaming in like three four hours
I can't expect we're gonna see Hoppings. Probably you're gonna block honestly. Yeah, possibly
Brute twister nexus princess and quite possible as boss as well. I would say are probably getting some tuning
Yeah, this again this boss. I think they would just want to remove one chemical change. Yeah
I don't even know if it necessarily needs to be tuned. I don't think we've even yeah
By tuning mechanical changes in this boss or to whatever okay, right?
Yep, I think we're all pretty much yeah
It is actually kind of important as well
Weather and how much they they may nerf Kaiveza and Ovenax for the re-clear of this raid that will affect how much they
Can do that first versus wanting to do it after
Doing a bunch of you know all the other weekly ways that you can gear up getting all those gilded crests sending those upgrades
to make those take less time on progression
and also will affect how much they'd be able
to bring in characters that are less good on those fights
but that want gear from those fights.
So that is an important variable for the race to world first.
Of course, even if they don't change those fights at all,
you know, Liquid will be able to
re-clear both of them next week,
but it's a question of with how much room to spare
and how much it gives them that flexibility
to change their grand strategies around
which characters come in.
So, as a guild that's been progging, one of the 270 guilds that are progressing Brew Twister,
if you were going to apply a nerf to it, what would you actually do?
Brew Twister?
I think, so I think Gear does nerf that boss, at least the MPAR of the boss a bit more.
You can live longer with certain, like, spider overlaps certain power eggs.
I think you make the debuff longer to break the eggs by a second or two, likely more
leeway there.
Probably come in and nerf the boss outflip as well.
I doubt they want guilds tanking the boss in the black blood for half a minute
before you kill it.
It's a bit weird.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If they do enough general nerfs on that fight, you could definitely buff the damage of standing
inside that ground effect.
I think it's also somewhat buggy behavior that there's a healing absorb that only gets
applied once when you stand in it, and then the damage takes.
You don't get the exact size of the healing absorb, so that may be behavior on that
fight that could be changed without even really calling it a buff.
That does track as a bug fix.
And then for Nexus Princess, I'm kind of looking at a 10% HP nerf, but remove the ability to
one tank this fight that does not let that ever happen again.
You're seeing a different fight, I think, and then reset with that.
And then maybe 10% off Queensbane again.
Yeah, I wouldn't hate more than 10% off Queensbane.
Like looking at the numbers on that thing, it seems very, very harsh to a lot of the
more marginal specs.
Like if you were trying to be one of the guilds that Echo and Method Boat did
this, of bringing a DPS Druid through that encounter.
characters were in the trenches. Those characters were external magnets. You know what's crazy?
For liquid, their warriors were external magnets. Warner, not a weak class, not a weak spec.
Arms is definitely, like if they'd been able to play the area, it would have been a little
bit tankier on that fight, but yeah, they obviously wanted a dam from arms.
Yeah, I would hit it with 10% HP nerf, but we're removing the possibility of one tank
Yeah, and and this fight I think they should remove the one tanking option
I admit a negative centigrade right there
I wouldn't I wouldn't even hate a hot fix to do that, but on the reset would also work the problem is to
There are more guilds that are at four out of eight then there are at one out of eight
Yeah, and so I think that you have to be looking to do something with bird twister as well or
Honestly, Roshan on this is frankly very like way too easy
So that's but you can't go in buff Roshan on which is actually you can't buff off is right
Yeah, I mean, I wish I wish you could I think they just missed the tuning on three and four a little bit
Sifron and Rasha, that's sort of how it is. It's
It reminds me a bit of like, Amirgisil, a large problem with Tindral was that the first seven were easy enough that you would get there
Without having a boss that sort of walled you for a while to you know to kind of let there be some more time passing and
Some more of those nerves to come in.
Halandrus had a similar problem, but a similar occurrence happened where 500, 600 guilds were
walled at Halandrus and they weren't walled anywhere else at raid.
A nice thing about Aparus, for instance, was you didn't get to Magmarax until you'd killed
Rashok and Zaskarn, so that boss was like never a brutal check for anybody.
It was hard, but Rashok was the harder.
And Rashok, I think Rashok was really well tuned to get easier with gear as well.
It was actually, I feel like Nexus Princess was a fight that I was, I was looking forward to it a good bit
but when we talked to Max a couple nights ago before they killed the boss, he said straight up, I think I partially quote here, this fight sucks.
Yeah, he was very down on the experience. Once they switched that one tanking strategy, I think it got a lot more frustrating.
So I think the good news is that there's a pretty good chance that you won't have to one tank that encounter.
Oh, this is their plan chance.
That will make the fight a lot more chill.
I think once you go from progressing the boss to gambling a kill on the boss, then it stops becoming fun and you're just like,
well hopefully we can lift eventually.
Alright, we are now entering the first intermission here.
Maybe we could go take a look.
So we got this is the sort of the main group and you can see what they're doing here is always rotating
counterclockwise around the boss.
There are also some players like fired up in THD back here as you can see,
and they're actually, THD and Dranaco are paired up.
You can see they're sort of dropping their motes and then going around in a little circle and getting those motes from each other
which lets them sort of stand a lot more still than if they were in that main group.
Yeah, very much so. The shield of the boss is actually no joke here either.
Like, the longer you're in this phase before it hurts, it lasts a very long time.
42 seconds there on that Shatter Existence cast.
Actually pretty good.
No rest for him.
We can keep pushing through this a bit longer.
Yeah, down a healer, down a diva aura is not great, but this fight is actually a lot less lethal than Kaibaza.
You had a good rest of a minute and a half maybe, maybe we can make it to that.
Yeah.
That's why you were losing a dispell as well for the uh...
You can maaaan...
... if you really want to.
I mean you could, they were masked. I believe they masked the first time they saw the actual uh...
Slender bosses cast in the center there just to make sure they got through it and to see later on the fight.
I feel like Mass would hurt really badly in this fight, but they were like, they could do it somehow.
Probably should wipe you, but I...
I don't know for sure.
You can set up a star under the boss and then Mass, but it's a lot harder than just going in and dispelling one at a time, which is what they're doing.
Yeah, okay.
You would need to have five people for whom the boss is the closest thing to them, so you would need to set up in like a pentagon around the boss.
Yeah, okay.
Quite tight underneath it.
But then you could, if Johnny was dead, you could have done over three dispells and then...
You could have been able to dispell as well.
Yeah, the other two.
Yeah.
I mean, believe me, at my rate I've seen it jump with three people, not five.
Like five is the mythic dispel requirement here.
I've seen it jump from three to somebody outside the raid standing in there.
So, if mass is on the table with my yield, I'm sure we'll be massing it, but yeah, it's
been worth before.
Ooh, the method is now ahead of liquid in terms of boss progression as well.
Yeah.
What's the...
59%.
Yeah, liquid definitely... having a slower progression in terms of percent at least
on this boss than I think they would hope, especially given the information that
Echo and Method have been able to go faster on it.
Now I am just but a stupid caster, but for what reason could they be lower percent and it's
not to be just the worst Prague?
It's, that's the thing, is you know, percent and Prague aren't always exactly the same
thing, but they, on this fight, they're, I think they are?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it is just, you know, bad, oh, on the other hand, obviously Liquid have just
woken up, right, so.
Yeah, they have a full day of sleep.
It is sort of a phenomenon that does happen very often in the race to world first as you
go to sleep ahead and you wake up behind.
Yeah, let's take a little look here at the end of this intermission and going into P2 what
that looks like because this is the sort of part of the fight which we're seeing progression
happening at.
You see this bull wasn't quite a prog bull but it was close.
Is this not just a recycle of mechanics after you come out of this intermission?
Is it not just P1 all over?
No.
of the charges anymore in this case. This phase is more based on the Skain Spinner and look at this,
it grips in the Marks of Rage and Paranoia, I think at different times as well.
Oh okay, so now I'll wipe the Rage. Yeah, because it grips you right under the boss,
then you've got to get out before that blast, but then you have to go and soak those orbs
from the other people. It looks like you drop orbs from where you got gripped from.
So yeah, I'm trying to figure out where the spot is that they're using those gateways as well.
It looked like they were on the back there possibly on the Star Marker I couldn't really tell with it moving around there either way
They usually want to start the dodge the front low comes out, but that makes sense. Yeah getting in position for that
Yeah, unfortunately, we're gonna go down right by this big boom. Yeah
So that was a failure to land the disbells on the boss. Yes, which that makes sense
Dude, this is a really hectic fight to watch. I feel like it's one of those fights that so many unique mechanics are happening at the
Same time, it's just mm-hmm
So I mean okay obviously there they just fail to land the spells so we can tell why they wipe but there's sometimes right a
Difficulty in telling what is killing people off there is there's like checkpoints in this fight in a sense though
Right making it through that that schemes winter mission intermission then getting a bit of spell on the boss as well
If you get past that checkpoint you can see a bit of the health come off the boss
I were offered it wise, but there's multiple checkpoints or this boss the ray grip the soaks the intermission from the schemes where the
Mission from the beetle which is a large upheaval phase similar to black feuds actually way back
Yeah, it looks similar, actually, and in the final phase you have both those overlapping
almost simultaneously, whilst those open warbs, whilst they're being gripped in, and the boss
is dead charging the wall again as well in the final phase, which is the root for it.
The weapon's called there, yeah, that wasn't somebody standing in the frontal foolishly,
that was a guy in the frontal to intentionally die after something else had gone wrong
on bull there.
That's okay.
In your own guild chat, you guys shouldn't stand in the front and try to be the last
one to die.
I shouldn't.
You never know when they're gonna pop open warcraft logs and look at that deaths tab exactly
You always got to be well on that so whenever a wipe is called you want to be the last person to die
It's very true page numbers actually to yeah
You got to pad your numbers pad your up to a meter. So I've had your death
Also, whenever whenever people are looking at deaths you always have to filter by three first three deaths
I'm gonna say well you want to do is you want to you want to test filtering by one two and three deaths
And just not filtering and see which of those makes you look best and then link that to your gill
Yes, yeah, that's an important thing right that one down. You want to be looking at boss damage all damage
Damage during certain phases again. You look through all these metrics see which ones have you looking good and then link those
Very important whatever it takes right yeah, this is this has been our warcraft logs tutorial
Is this what they're supposed for this a bit more yeah, they do they there's hacks
life life pro tip
It's a life kit.
How do you get the most out of Warcraft Logs?
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Hmm.
You ridded with Kira, yeah?
I did, yes.
It's been a long time.
Kira, who is the founder of Warcraft Logs, he's separating with us, I think, in Legion.
Oh my gosh.
It's been a long time.
He's still in the guild.
He posts, like, Final Fantasy stuff a bunch.
I don't see him playing well anymore.
I don't know.
I don't know.
He's been converted.
You chased him out of this game?
I guess so.
I chased him out of the office of Core out of this game when I first came around.
It's pretty rough, you know?
It's okay.
They offered it to me.
Just a certain dominance at that point in time.
I see.
So yeah, five years later, they wouldn't offer to me at all.
It was point.
You're like a good officer.
Is there more to this joke, Piddles?
No, that's it.
Was that joke?
It was another joke by itself.
The way he looked at me, you're like, OK, play.
Yeah, you know, I'm too old at this point.
I'm approaching 45.
Can't do much.
Well, yeah, it's supposed to be wiser or something.
I think it's a fallacy.
That's not true at all.
Let's fake news.
Your branch slows down the older you get.
At least for me it does.
Okay.
All right, so we've got impact here.
Webbed up with one of the evokers in his mark group.
Who do you think, what classes do you think
want to be webbed the most here?
Yeah, it looks like they've been having the melee
and evokers from the rage group doing it.
And basically what they do is that
it looks like they're finding a way
to consistently just bait those three web bombs on those players, and then they just
immediately get them with a certain three-determined partner every time.
You saw their even impact getting rescued by the evoker he was webbed with, which is really
nice as well.
Like, getting rescued into position by your evoker partner is really good, because then
you're both also getting a Twin Guardian shield.
That's helping you survive the ticking damage.
Yeah, I would have guessed it would have been stuff like Habok DH, Death Knight.
Those are the kind of classes I think, okay, these are pretty tanky.
We can do some depth striking if we're getting low from this dot.
We can do some tattoos to take less damage from it.
Okay, so I have a question.
Assume that they do fix the one tanky on this fight, what does Scott play here?
Because we kind of have all the buffs, right?
We have Ribbon's on that Moonkin.
Would you just like, I guess maybe axe Ribbon's off to the Moonkin?
Just, Moonkin's damage is looking quite good on this fight.
It looks okay.
Yeah.
Bear I think I don't know. I don't know what bear would do on this fight like you you'd be pretty squishy to getting bolted by the
This game spinner especially from far away. You could play you could play bloody K
Maybe for grips on the yeah
I was in a bloody game bloody case actually something that I believe is being used on this fight as one of the one tanks from some of
The other guilds or at least has been experimented with
What would you cut then?
There's a run double enhanced and I think that enhances nasty at this boss enhances look very good arcane mage works really well
Timing wise, at least it did during the road. It works really well timing wise
Yeah, the burst windows on this encounter do tend to favor very bursty specs
Yeah, I think the amateur or damage profile wise is likely a warlock if you can find a way to make one
Yeah, if you make one gate work, it's likely a log if not. I mean, I don't know devs seem pretty good in this fight
Still very mobile a lot of mobility in this fight. I don't know. It's right. It might be actually the warlock
Yeah, how mandatory those gateways are because max was talking about it when we had that monster energy listening earlier
where he was talking about it being mandatory for the current strategy they're using to have two gateways.
But of course that doesn't mean it's mandatory to have two warlocks to kill the fight, right?
It just means they would have to change their strategy in question of how much worse that would make their strat.
It sounded also like people didn't necessarily agree with Matt.
Yeah.
It sounded like some of that being like the best strategy for instance, right?
Precisely.
Being the one that requires two gateways, so.
Yeah.
I would be surprised if we see more experimentation with other strats.
I wouldn't be shocked if this gets changed and no longer be able to be one tank turret. It gets going down here.
Yeah, it'd look better if it had to be Hemsis. It's gonna end up being white here.
Unfortunately, it'll be white pretty quickly here, but...
Yeah, I don't know. If you're liquid, do you...
If you're liquid, you have a few hours left from your raid night tonight.
Do you think you shift towards a two tank strat?
Tell us just to prepare for that change likely coming in? Nothing is mentioned.
Well, it should be, but if it's not...
I... Okay, so I think if Blizzard doesn't say anything about...
Okay, so there's a couple of ways that they could tell the Raiders.
the Raiders. First off, I think it's supposed to be a blue post. That's probably the most traditional way of saying,
yo, we're changing this. Well, terribly. They get this post. Basically, something that's happened since
Seppelker is that Raiders have communication with Blizzard developers in order to be able to, like,
have this active line of communication. Right. Talking about, you know, potential changes to the
Raid, whether it be class changes or boss changes or hotfixes or whatever. I could see it going
where Blizzard's like, uh, okay, you're no longer going to be able to one-tank it.
Say Blizzard says nothing.
I would probably just continue to play with the one-tank strat like that.
At that point, I'm just kind of assuming that Blizzard's not changing it, which...
Right.
I think that they should.
Very likely.
Same with Kaveza, but I was a bit too late in the progression.
Yeah, Kaveza was a little bit later in the boss progression experience.
I don't...
Just by changing it, I think.
I also don't like the way that they were one-tanking Kaveza.
Kaveza just was like, so...
So, yeah here I don't think they're actually planning any deaths to come with the one tanking.
It's like we're gonna try one tank, it's gonna make tanking harder, but it's not like, oh
yeah we're committing all of our battle resins and onc totems to facilitate a one tank strategy.
It's much more like, okay, yeah just congratulations, your job has gone from hard to harder.
We're also getting a little bit of class tuning on the reset.
We are.
I don't think any of it's actually gonna end up impacting Shadow Priest.
So the Shadow Priest aura buff is something, that's the only one that I feel like actually
is going to change anything because the other one is like what, Resto Druid getting a slight
buff?
Yeah, slight BM buff.
Feral Druid is getting buffed, right?
And Feral Druid is actually a buff being used?
Yeah, I believe so.
It's some R&D change.
It's your class, I don't know, you tell me.
You gotta check the final.
I'm going to hurry the bunch here, I couldn't tell you, I don't know.
Don't call me that, man.
I don't know.
But yeah, the general practice thing is probably the most interesting buff that's coming up.
So we believe in using one of their progression on this fight.
Yeah, we're definitely using one on Kaibaza as well, right?
Okay, I guess Feral's just getting a change to Rampant for us.
It's a quality of life thing more than a buff.
I was gonna say, is that even a buff? I didn't really know.
Yeah, and then the other changes are...
There's a Rider of the Apocalypse change for a Death Knight that doesn't matter.
So it doesn't matter, yeah.
There's a Resto Druid, all healing increased by 4% change.
Rest of Druid stinks.
Yeah, I mean enough small changes do eventually make a speck go from bad to good, especially
for Druid, where it's like, okay, we need to find the least bad druid speck on every
fight.
So, Reservation of Ochre heals 30% more than the other healer.
That's the problem.
Rest of Druid heals 10% less than the rest of the pack.
Yeah, so this may be moving Rest of Druid towards kind of a healthy bottom of the
back place except for the fact that then presa vokers are taking like all of your
drinks or all of your healer spots pres won't last past this rate here okay they're
not doing nerfs mid like they're doing buffs they're not doing nerfs it's
basically what what it looks like to me I'm surprised that they're not nerfing
presa voker if there's if there's one spec that I was be I would have been
looking to change you or to nerf it would I think reservation I pretty
clearly they I suspect they regret not nerfing presa voker I suspect they
I regret not nerfing, say, enhanced arcane, fury, a little bit more than they did.
I think the TPS specs I'm a bit more forgiving of because this raid is so unique in the sense
of specific specs are very good at specific things.
Now enhanced and arcane and fury are all good at most things, and I'm not going to
disagree with that, but it's more just like Prez is the best healer in all situations
to the point where you're running.
It's so unprecedented to be running two of one healer spec.
That's more my point than anything else.
Well, we saw that in Volta Incarnates as well with Presovoker as well.
And they were OP.
Yeah, we see it with Double Pallet and Double Priest all the time as well.
But Pallet would tell you that they suck.
That's true, they always would.
But I don't know, I feel like Presovoker, it's definitely an outlier.
It definitely will get nerfed at some point this season, but it's maybe not this season,
but at some point, right, they don't want Presovoker to be this good.
But doing nerfs mid-race, doing nerfs in the first few weeks of Mythic Frog as
guilds have kind of locked in, not just the race to world first guilds, but every guild
has sort of locked in who's playing what. It feels really bad to identify correctly that
something's good, gear it up, and then get it nerfed and it's like, okay, this was this
last one.
The weird thing is, I think we're closer to three presivokers than we are to one presivoker.
Yeah, and that three has been used by some guilds on some of these bosses as well.
So it is very good. I just, I think that it's not like, not that overwhelming that
it warrants breaking the philosophy of not doing nerfs in the next few weeks.
I think that everything that's been said here is completely valid, yeah.
So some other changes that are coming in, we've got a Beastmastery Hunter AoE increase, which you will notice.
There's not currently a Hunter inside the raid here,
uh, four Team Liquid, despite the fact that they do technically have a raid buff.
One problem with this fight is that the Hunter's Mark raid buff can only be applied to one of these bosses.
So you would need two Hunters if you wanted to get full value out of Hunter's Mark.
Yeah.
And each one is therefore only bringing half value of a Hunter's Mark.
That's some damage, but that's like half a percent of the boss's health
You're bringing a little bit more if you focus on the target that has the hunters mark on it
But it's still not a lot and then you'd have to be playing a hunter and the hunter damage profile on this fight
Is pure single target?
Yeah, BM is nice because it's high mobility
But it is pretty much pure single target and if you want to play one of the other hunter specs
You could get a little more cleave for free, but it doesn't start a wing until three targets, right exactly two targets is a very
I guess, iconically for Hunter, it is a bit of a dead zone for them.
Serve would be the Hunter's speck for this boss.
Yeah, which is another melee, so that's, you know...
Okay, and then why would you bring a Serve when you can bring up a Frost Death Knight?
Right, because of Hunter's Mark, but Hunter's Mark is not more than half the two he does.
Yeah, so Hunter's Mark is what?
So it's 5% above 80% HP, so it would be 2.5% for him.
If it's a single target, it's 1% of the boss in the south, right?
5% up 20% is 1%.
Well, I would say it would be 2.5% because it's two different bosses in this instance, right?
So it would be down to 0.5 total percent, but again, you could have most of your raid hitting the target that had Hunter's Mark on it, so you could do a little bit more than that.
There are two targets and they're stacked on top of each other, so maybe you could get to 0.75?
Yeah, something like that.
We're talking about a pretty marginal benefit that is not bigger than the different...
And then Mark of the Law does 3% more.
Yeah, Mark of the Law does 3% more, that's a lot more.
Although it is additive with other versatility,
so it's a bit less than 3%, but still.
So anyways, I don't think Hunter's coming in,
I don't think the Beast Mastery change,
which is Beast Leave and Kill CLEVE damage increased
to 90 from 80%.
That's a mythic plus change.
Very small buff.
Yeah, that's a mythic plus change mostly.
I mean, BM Hunter is so bad at mythic plus too,
but that's because they're tuned around like
Vassalus, Collar, and a bunch of other
single target effects, and it's just like.
Yeah, it's tough.
I think that's back as in need of more,
And so it's nice to get buff, but I don't think it's going to change too much on the reset.
Fire Mage!
I buffed them too, yes.
Fire Mage is getting 15% damage on Flamestrike, 20% damage on Phoenix Flames, and 10% damage on Living Bomb, which...
So...
10% times zero is zero, but...
So these are three AOE effects, they're trying to buff them up for Method Plus a little bit.
But these are... Okay, so basically you don't Flamestrike anything but right now.
Living Bomb is only about 6% of your damage, and then was the other one Phoenix Flames?
Phoenix Flames, which you do press in all cases.
It's not the worst possible thing, but it's not a huge shortage of damage.
You're mostly pressing it, I think, for the things that it does rather than the damage it does.
I suspect that that's a very small gain in a raid situation.
And honestly, not even that big of a gain in a Mythic Plus situation, unless they start flamestracking for some reason, but...
Yeah, I mean, 15% is a large amount of damage on a spell to go up. It may change the priority list, but it's...
By the way...
I'm not expecting to see it come into the race to world first as a result of these changes.
Unrelated, but I hate how they've changed so many specs coming into war with them to be pressing their full single target rotation
Yeah, I cannot they read yeah a we yes, like it
There are a lot of specs where you you're just never pressing the you're never like doing the aoe thing
All three major specs suffer from this problem. We're right. Okay. It's so weird arcane used to have like an aoe
Difference right where you is like, okay, I'm arcane explosion now right and now it's like, you know
Really? You just kind of hit a single target and you're suffocating free?
It removes so with the seeds like from the game.
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of modernization when it comes to talent overhaul and stuff too.
Like I'm taking most of my avi-abilities even in single target.
I hit one extra basically in avi-y.
But then Frosty K is pressing the exact same button.
Exactly.
Outlaw Rogue is...
Outlaw Rogue has always been like that where you just hit Blade of Blur and then you're killing it.
So I like it there.
Outlaw Rogue has always been like that but they're moving more specs to being like that.
Exactly.
I love that one.
I like it when there are some specs that you can play where it's like,
Okay, here's how my rotation changes as the third target gets added.
Here's how my rotation changes as the fifth target gets added.
And there's a lot of specs where there's either no change or it's like, okay,
on any number of targets, two or greater, you change your talent this way,
and you press whirlwind every three globals.
So, for Mythic Plus, the problem with that, and AOE has been specifically,
particularly the problem with that is that those specs are inherently
better designed for Mythic Plus.
Sure.
Specs that actually have to make a decision.
That's why, like, Psych Link is ridiculous.
Right, yeah.
Let's go and say that's like, like, Psych Link is absurd.
If you pull up the change while recycling since like whenever it came out
I think it was what dragon flight it came back
Yeah, it's like a page and a half a change the cycle of psychic link like every single batch hard to hard it
Well, yeah, it's very hard to like you can't if they're very good in single target
They're arguably very good in the elite because it's basically it's very early right that's better crash. That's it
In season three worse than vengeance demon hunter on a we
To one of the best specs in the game over the course of like two buffs. Yeah, yeah
Yep, it's a very difficult, but yeah, it affects the balance.
The more my point was the fact that it's kind of weird that they've designed more and more
specs like that.
Anyways, that aside, it sounds like we have some pets to be showing off.
Oh, meantime.
Oh my god.
This is a whole pack.
Oh, there's two.
There are minus two pictures here.
Well, a whole pack of two.
Yeah.
This is Ash and Jinx.
And this has been submitted by Hula.
Oh, I know who this is from.
Yes.
cats i think these before
yeah well i think they need to move uh... some legal legend champions after
these
these kids
i like it
yeah i think she plays adc
could be
thank you
well i like it
she must catch many times on twitter before
very nice
okay if you're if your pets are named after adc
do you think that makes you more likely to be an adc main or like a support
main and then you you know his supports
I think it makes you more likely to be an AD carry.
Okay.
I don't know what's being discussed right now.
Well, those are legal legends.
Yeah, those are legal legends.
Okay, it's kind of like this.
If you're-
How about you shaking his head?
Let me explain this to you in loud terms.
If you had pets named after a tank class,
Gina and Cadgar,
are you more likely or are you less likely to be an age?
I don't know. I don't like that as much.
I feel like it's more like,
if you had kiddies named
Venus, Xevan Hunter and Blood Death Knight,
are you more likely to be a tank or a healer?
Because if your pets are named after tanks,
or you may be a healer because you love your tanks.
Sure, I get that.
I've played one game of League of My Empire of Life never again.
Who isn't chatting goes,
I play top LOL, asses is my jam.
Let's go.
So she said,
Lee Lop Island.
Absolutely neither.
The farthest away lane you could beat your kiddies.
She's going to teleport from down for them.
Yeah, so that's good.
If you're casting in bloody fancy, he'll be right away, right?
That's true.
Yeah, there you go, sure.
That's the con.
You know what? It's very quick.
Yeah.
We'll take you, actually.
Well, you know, just help me, it's fine.
No wonder Jack never nice to me anymore.
That's why.
He hates me, okay, got it.
Yeah, cool.
Most of us do.
Yeah, well, believe me.
He sure heard what he said to you this morning.
When he asked about who's our third caster,
I said, Tettles.
And he was very excited to hear it, Tettles.
Yeah, I was happy.
I was I was celebratory. Mm-hmm. Give me a side eye over here. We were I was happy about it
I don't know that was bringing to energy of 10 men combined into one. It's very good
He's just sitting here
Great, thanks, Calamansia
I hate you
I think that's the perfect way to do it.
Pray for the downfall. Pray for the downfall of PopTartCordDog.
No, CordDog leaves me a lot of...
I don't know how to test if a CordDog dissolves.
I have Blood Legion there, going to CordDog was the way I'm back to Puggan.
I don't want to do that again.
That's right.
Pure misery.
I love the movement on these orb pairs.
In the range group?
Yeah.
Yeah, they're doing their own little circles.
Definitely the way to be able to optimize the damage from our caster perspective.
I think the evokers are just going to be in melee because they have hover and they can just continue as they can with the boss, so that it's something and whatnot.
But I think from the Warlock and the Mage perspective, you have to plant like that.
I don't think you can afford to be running around.
Are they rotating counterclockwise compared to clockwise with the range groups?
That's just a natural base movement based on the frontal bosses casting.
I can't tell.
If the melee club is rotating counterclockwise, for sure, you can tell.
If the blue and red groups here, for example, right when in that last phase,
I think the range pair is almost rotating counterclockwise, or clockwise there.
In opposite fashion, basically.
Not a lot of time left to show these moats.
Oh! Did it blow up?
I'm not sure what got fired up there.
It looked like maybe one of the red moats exploded.
Does it not completely wipe your entire raid of one of the moats it floats?
Yeah, which is only the player.
No, I think it kills most of the...
I think it gives everybody the other color a stacky.
And if you so, if you so, three I believe it killed you too correctly also, okay?
Yeah, I think I misunderstood exactly how it killed you. I thought it killed you by yeah
I mean it's like basically yeah, yeah, I didn't I didn't realize it give you a stack as opposed to I think that's how it works
But I'm not a harm's-en-chirry ad three stacks and it's over basically yeah, that's right
Kind of that's kind of a weird way of doing you normally a student. Yeah, I'd be like a bomb and just a explode. Yeah
We got some more pets that we can showcase as well. Let's go
Hermes. Oh wow. I learned about Hermes in Greek mythology. Yeah, I feel that class.
That doesn't surprise me. I stopped going. I did find mythology very interesting.
Has Hermes changed your mind here? You want to learn more about his lore?
Yeah. Maybe. Good. I like him. Yeah. Oh, gosh, he's a large animal. That is a large animal.
Leia? It's made by ZixQD. Is that German Shepherd? Yes. It's like a fluffy German Shepherd. What
is that about? It's crazy. I like that. I like he's like all fluffy and curly. He's
a happy boy. Yeah, he reminds me of you, Ted. I was looking at his face. He's very
excited. I suspect that Leia is a she, not a he, but I don't know for sure.
Well, yeah, she's a happy girl
There we go
Very nice dog very happy. Oh, there's jinx another jinx. Hold on. Wait a second. Do you think they're related?
Yes, I think actually the jinx kitty from earlier. Yeah, yeah
Long lost cousins. Yeah cat and dog about the same size honestly. Yeah
Yeah.
Submit by Theo as well, thank you for that, thank you for your donation.
If you want to get your pets shown on stream, submit $30 or more to our donation drive for
the Santa Monica Animal Shelter.
If you don't have a pet or they're shy, you can also submit your transmog to get
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What's that on the break timer?
I'm not sure.
That is Cams at Boston, race to roll first, inhaling some kind of substance that shouldn't
have been inhaled in the building.
Is Cams smoke?
For that scene he did.
For a scene?
For that scene, he was actually very sick after that scene, like legitimately for the
whole day.
That was his first say right ever.
I see.
I'm glad that we're promoting positive life changes with people here, yeah.
Yeah, he said it's not gonna do it ever again.
Instead, stay inside and play World of Warcraft, you're not smoking.
We test for you until it's not a good idea.
Yeah, anyhow.
I think we're gonna be doing one of the charity...
Oh, that's why we've got these little tables here.
How do you know, what do you guys know about crystals?
Why are you looking at me for that?
I think like the Florida man.
Why are you looking at me for that?
Well, I feel like crystal people and planets get kind of go hand in hand and it's well known that you have a tropical rainforest built in your house.
I don't know anything about it, I'm actually gonna, this is my first time getting anything about crystals.
But you do have, you know about plants, yes?
I have some plants, yes. I have like four, seven and a half foot plants in my house.
Yeah, they're very, very large. You know, there's hurricane coming down the line, that'd be the one in your back.
Alright, here we go. Oh my gosh.
What is this?
The Hall of Fall Star.
What we're gonna be making so basically the whole false Hall of Fall star turns purple whenever Belladar shows up
I never get that. Oh, you know Yip to the Belladar tracker and his UI. Yeah
He does in the middle of the problem of a few week or two guys very good
Okay, okay, so we have a lot of like an unknown substance in the oh my gosh
We have these sticks as well that appear to have yes sugar on them have been used already. That's okay. Okay, so
How does this work? I see a hole in the the tape here, so I suspect that this goes
In
Yeah, and then and then what okay use the Malcolm aim
Essentially the the sticks are dipped in sugar. Uh-huh, and we're putting them into a hot sugar syrup
It's like a hot four to one sugar to water ratio
You're in!
Yeah!
Oh!
When the stick sits in there because there's not a whole lot of air, it's going to start
to crystallize, so over the next couple of days we're going to watch it grow more and
more into a crystal rock around the stick.
Oh!
What color will it be?
This is a long-term science project.
Okay.
Can we make it purple?
We can try.
Okay.
I thought this was going to be like we were going to be eating something sugar-based
right now.
No, that's going to be later because we have candy bugs.
Cool.
We hit my mouth right in the snow.
You have to do candy bugs?
No, that's going to be later.
Oh, word.
OK, great.
Word.
That doesn't mean you won't be, or like...
I'm not eating bugs.
That doesn't mean you're absolutely absolved of it.
You eat bugs?
Doesn't run.
I...
The average human eats like two or three bugs a night.
That's false.
That's false.
I think it's probably...
Halamazde eats more like four or five anyways.
There you go.
No gas in it.
You don't have to hold the jar.
It is very hot.
Well, you can...
I worked the jar for ten years.
I can't feel anything.
You put it next to the other jar.
I prefer to hold it.
So we've just started a chemistry project is what's happening here.
Yeah, I think that's what's going on.
So how long will it take to crystallize and turn into a star?
So because we increase the ratio of sugar to water, it could be a couple days to a week.
It's just going to keep growing and we're not going to get it to a state where we can't
get out of the jar because that would be wasteful, but over the next three-ish days
it is going to start to form larger and larger.
Okay.
Very well.
forget to split, we could instead watch the crystals form on the next reset potentially.
You can see I'm bubbling a bit, very cool.
Your stick's not straight, that's an artistic choice.
We're going to see how it's different to the angle this way, and this way we'll know which
one was mine as well.
That we will.
That we will.
Yo, yeah, get a little sharpie.
Very nice.
Very warm.
All right, here's one of them. What is this? Oh, it's Calzoh. Yeah, cool. Oh, I don't know what it's here for
But I couldn't help myself. I like it
We're excited work work work work
Something you're doing good
You're very good at that actually. Thank you. Hmm. King's honor friend. Thank you
All right, cool
So I guess we'll keep track of this project over the next year. Do you want to keep them here?
I just put them back in the holder.
It moved at some point whenever we go to lunch.
That makes sense, yeah.
The players, of course, are on a bit of a break for about 30 minutes.
Yeah, we had a 30 minute lunch break.
Oh, that'll fix it, Sang.
Sang?
Hey!
A little monster incident.
It's okay.
It's okay.
A small collapse.
If it was the entire thing, we would send somebody for that, I think.
Max probably.
Max picks the wall.
There you go, Sang. Good job.
Thanks so much, Sang.
Thank you.
Sang, Hanging in Spirits. Smiling all the way. There we go.
Yep.
It's a real time as well.
Playing that Devavoker. Yep.
Anyways, anyways.
So the Raiders are on a 30 minute lunch break.
We are going to be going and joining them for a little bit of a lunch break, so we
will be back after lunch.
Big shout out to our sponsors, Coinbase Secret Lab, Monster Energy, Alienware, Raider
Wowhead, Warcraft Vlogs, and Dungeon Dojo.
I'm Teddles joined by Calamity and Dratnas.
We will be back in just a few minutes.
Goodbye.
How about this to celebrate our spring championship?
I celebrated by getting a new Honda Civic Hybrid
with style, power, and fuel efficiency.
It's an excellent awesome.
Get in.
Why didn't I think of this?
How do you return a babewood?
Hi, my name's Atlas.
I play the Mike for the Big Kill.
Some of the features of the Alienware ProLine mouse that I've really enjoyed, it's extremely lightweight, it glides effortlessly across the mousepad.
The clicks feel very responsive and give you feedback. I love how this mouse feels.
While players inherently mash their keyboards like crazy, so it's good to have a reliable keyboard that is responsive and easy to have clicks on the keys.
Can I keep it?
Hi, I'm Axyle and I play Rogue and Liquid Guild.
Actually, my favorite feature about the ProLine mouse is that it feels light as a feather.
It's really smooth.
Then I have no questions on whether or not I'll be able to use it for very extended periods of time.
The customizability of the Alienware keyboard is a great feature to have as you're able to change the lighting
whenever you want and even change your screen switches.
Hi, I am Bubba Dub.
I am an analyst slash officer in Liquid Gill.
The main feature that I really like about the mouse is the side buttons.
They give you direct feedback on whether you press it or not.
The weight and the shape of this mouse are perfect for me.
This keyboard is definitely something that I would use at home for general use and for gaming.
The way that the keyboard feels to me, I get instantaneous feedback on what button I press
and how I pressed it.
Hi, my name is Max and I'm the Raid Leader of Liquid Field.
The Alienware Pro mouse is actually great. It's wireless. It's super easy to deal with.
It has great skates, so it actually will glide really well.
You can use it all day and you don't get sore at all.
So the Alienware Pro line keyboard is actually great for wow if you want smaller desk
space taken up by your keyboard and also connect to three different devices through Bluetooth and
just overall it has a great feel. This might be the best keyboard I've ever used. What is this?
Where's my secret lab? This is your chair. That's not my chair. It's in my contract man. I only sit
in secret lab chairs. Look I'm gonna have permanent back damage because of this. What's going on with them?
He ever got a secret lab.
Look at my hat.
Look at my hat.
Look at my hat.
The knocks is on.
Oh, diva.
Are you secret labs?
This is some dog-in-the-shit game.
Ever since Max ran into his contract,
he's been, like, weirdly obsessed with secret lab chairs.
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
He does everything in them.
Everything.
Like, I get it.
They're great chairs.
But it's just, like, a bit much.
I guess he had it put in his contract to always be sitting in a secret lab chair.
I mean, who does that? When did that happen?
Good secret lab. Look, it's not about the design or the comfort.
It's the personalized ergonomics, right? Why else would it be in my contract?
I want it wherever I'm at. I feel like people here just don't get it, you know?
For sure. Like, it's like when you're used to sushi and then you go back to
Cantuna.
You just don't want that, right? No one wants that. That's crazy.
I feel like we should be focusing more on prepping for the actual race than, like, what chairs we sit in.
I mean, like, how comfortable can they really be?
Oh. Okay. I kind of get it.
Let's move my two to a three and my five to a seven. I'm going to take a quick dinner around then.
Actually, you know what? Instead of the three, maybe move that to a one.
That way I don't have to come to the office until way later, hopefully.
Hey
Yeah, I'm sorry about that
Look, it is what it is. I'm a nice guy, but secret lab. That's the only chair this butt sits in
There's either a secret lab there or I'm not going
All right, that's a wrap everybody. Thank you. Have a good night
There's my secret lab
It's illegal to pass a flashback with your phone
Yeah, I'll see you at the end of the day
Got a dummy on the side, look at me, there's me
And it is a bum, but it has a traffic in my pocket
And I'm not sick, and what I got, who would screw with me
If you leave me in the dead end, why won't I go?
Every time we do the rage, I'm still nice
And you still get scared in front of a door
I'm still nice, like a pig, like a pig
I'm still nice, so we get my ear cleaned
I'm so lost, baby
Yes, I'm still up, but not so many people
You know what, I'm too lonely to dare sit and get down with
In the street corner, I need like a human to be around and have so much more
I'm so versed in this understatement, yeah, you do
I'm so desperate, I'm so obsessed
I'm so sick, I'm so sick
I'm so engrossed
I'm so engrossed
I'm sick
A lunch break, I am told is joined by Dranos and Kalamazie, the raiders have their food
buff and they're ready for some more silken court progression.
Currently, we're in a bit of a third place in terms of progression of the boss, however
after talking to some of the guys, it seems like Prague is imminent.
Yeah.
Surely.
I don't think health percent is totally indicative of how your progress is going on this boss.
Obviously, the lower the better within reason, but there are a lot of checkpoints in this
boss. You can hit to get a lot more progress in. At the same time, there's a lot of DPS
optimizations around those damage amps, which probably we'll see a bit more after
lunch strat being optimized a little bit.
I think the percent is a pretty good indicator, though, of how far you are into this fight.
It's hard to imagine. Unless you have a pull where you're just literally practicing
survival and not doing damage, I think it's going to be pretty closely correlated
with how long you've gotten into the fight outside of those early pulls where 10 people
are alive and you're kind of seeing the timers.
We're still going to scout a little bit.
He seemed in high spirits about the fact that he wasn't tanking this fight.
It's rare as one of the two main tanks of the guild that you ever get to kind of ride
the bench and it can be fun.
Especially it's fun that he and Yipz have taken turns now tanking one of these bosses.
I've already expressed some Kai-Vezel.
Yeah, he's not going to choke a little bit, alright.
I wonder if Blizzard is going to be looking actually changed the ability to be able
to one tank this boss. I think they probably would.
So they already tried to by making the Beersling Strike persist through death, but apparently
it's just still not doing the correct amount of damage, which is making it quite easy to
one tank.
So part of the problem too is that according to Dungeon Journal, it just does 9 million
physical damage, which is not a lot of physical damage to a tank.
And a Frost Death Knight, it's also not a lot of physical damage to a Frost Death
Knight.
I don't know it's um, I think it's maybe just like an issue of it should be 19 million not 9 million
Yeah, the base damage being higher would make it so you couldn't have a dps player taunt them as often right be uh
Could be something number 19 million sure. Yeah
Again, I like one tanking as a creative option for dilds. I think it's cool when it comes up
The fact that's happened to bosses in a row though. I don't I think it's pretty likely that they're gonna
I don't want that to not continue on this fight.
Hopefully we see some raid-tuning...
Yeah, I think during our shift there's a decent chance we'll see something pop up,
otherwise it would be probably the next one.
Yeah.
Usually, so for those who are new to the game here,
usually Blizzard posts hotfixes in the afternoon Pacific time,
which we're right now, it's about 2 p.m. local time,
so usually you'd see it between now and maybe 5 p.m.,
sometimes a little bit earlier, sometimes a little bit later.
And we already know there is class-tuning hotfixes inbound on the Tuesday,
But often raid boss tuning gets announced later in the game than that, later in the week than the class tuning they usually try to announce on the Friday before they go for the weekend.
The raid tuning can happen on Monday, that is pretty plausible.
I still think it's more likely than not that we will see some changes to Kaibaza and Ovenaxe over today as well.
I tend to agree, I was looking at Raider O, it looks like about 300 guilds are on Brute Twister Ovenaxe.
And it looks about, like, about 250 guilds who've killed the first boss of Mythic.
The fact that there is a larger wall and a...
Right, 250 guilds are on Bloodbound Horror.
Yeah, on Bloodbound Horror, yeah.
Yeah, they're killing only Ol' Grax and not more.
Which, that's pretty atypical of just general boss progression.
Yeah, there's a very brick wall building in that 5 out of 8 slot, or 4 out of 8 slot in the raid.
We have the first pull post launch now.
Yeah, here we go.
So, what have they been wiping to so far? What are the big takeaways?
Is it just like a couple of individual deaths kind of spiraling out of control?
Because it's kind of how it seemed.
Yeah, P1, I feel like that Venomous Rain is actually sleeper the hardest part of this phase.
You can see we do have random deaths coming in here, and that is often going to lead to a wipe, but yeah.
The Venomous Rain adds a lot of spreading pressure on them, and it also adds a lot of damage, and it adds more modes too.
Yeah, soaking pressure as well, right? You know if you go past two sacs at people, three is essentially death.
Right. The other checkpoint is sort of hitting this fight. They've gotten through that
that intermission of like breaking the shield with like the webs coming at you
essentially having those two groups rotating counterclockwise. They've gotten that down
for the most part, but the next sort of like check they've gotten to is that
I'm quad. What is the word? Five to spell the five to spell the pen to dispel. Yeah. Yeah.
Basically the pen to dispel to actually stun the boss with that big boomcast that he's
doing. I'm actually called that but still that big one shot, right, which is going to be their
the next progression point yeah I think it's kind of interesting some of the
players have been citing this fight as boring yeah it's yeah because the
individual jobs on this fight I feel like especially if you're just coming
off of Kai Vezza where like you're you know your pinky toe being out of place
is gonna kill you and you have to like really struggle to live all these
things it almost feels like this fight is is the individual mechanics are a
a lot less lethal and the strategy is a lot more kind of it's a lot less gonna
change from pole to pole right like there's a lot less RNG and when you get
your blaze lines and their mid intermission and whether you're getting
targeted by different dashes from the from Kaibaza this time around like you
can pretty much do the same thing from pole to pole yeah obviously there's
still a lot of ways that you can wipe on this boss but that does tend to
lead to a very different progression experience that depending on who you are
of the 20 players you know maybe five people have like a really difficult job
that is top-to-master and the other 15 people are kind of waiting on those five
players to make deeper progression in the fight. Sure, yep, job on this is
probably one of the harder ones. Yeah solo tanking this fight is pretty tricky it
looks like we've seen him having a lot of being in a lot of danger trying to
live that you know have being hit by both of the bosses even though the
tank buster itself isn't that nasty. Having full uptime on being pelted by the caster is
not great. Especially on the Broomaster. We've been seeing Echo working on it with Blood
DK which I think would have a lot easier time of living. But of course, no mystic touch buff.
To clarify here, it's different from Kavesa where you were one tanking. You can do that
one tanking Kavesa to meet the DPS check and through boss. This fight, I mean, you
can just one tank it and not really have any. You're not burning resists to press
a tank.
damage check is actually going to look right but here it's like oh it's low
cost there's no reason not to essentially res on kiveza it was a very high cost of
one thing right it was doable but it was high cost you needed to pay that price
to get the DBS that you needed to kill it with this first resets worth of gear
this fight is more kind of like well we assume the in range will probably be
somewhat tight and we can one tank for basically free and once if you have
truly if you actually have to bring back in a second tank it's not that
difficult to get you wouldn't have to learn anything either with it would
easy to do it so for now they are continuing progression with that one
tank it also let Scott who was busy in on Kyveza for the last couple of days go
and do some gearing of his characters because he does have of course multiple
options that may be useful on Queen Ancerek making sure that they all have
full vaults for instance is pretty high value coming out of this week we are on
Monday of course the NA reset is tomorrow so very important for any
final week one reset chores to get done such as those keys I have a
Suspicion that they have as full of vaults as they're going to get on their main characters
Maybe somebody like this Sevi wouldn't but I think like I think like the rest of the characters probably do
Yeah, but you know Scott has multiple tanks that might get used on answer act potentially
We saw Scott and yet to playing PDK. Yeah, I'm British. They're right. Yeah
We are seeing a comp swap right now
It looks like only 19 the players in the raid right now
I believe that one warlock is being put it's hard to see it. Yeah, a lot of Jax ui
He's hiding the spots that would matter on under his under his camera here
Maybe we can swap over to fired ups POV spot spot looks like yeah, okay
So here here we can see the right frames. They have removed somebody and they're adding in days are in comes the wreck pally
Oh, yeah, we're locked in both for the third tier in our earth for the third fight
Dazer starting on the bench and showing up so I kind of joked about this to
Drydy as he was walking by I go yeah so winner wins the Rhett Paladin coming in
he goes it's only a matter of time but interestingly they're not swapping out
the Drainster they're keeping him in yeah Dazer's damage what's arranged for
melee here as well which they sort of makes those groups I to be fair I
invite sort of have those two range groups like swapping yeah I don't
You can also have your evokers cosplay as melee or ranged depending, they're happy in either group so
You don't need to do a one for one swap, you just can now move one of the devs, I guess
Goop is dev and Sanger's hog
Yeah, so either one
So the point both, yeah
Yeah, it's cool, it's very weird
To me, going into the deer, I would have been very confident that it was zero or two hogs on every fight
And yet a lot of guilds have been running one on some of these fights, which we want to pretty cool
Yeah, it's quite interesting. I think they've really landed on a healthy balancing spot for aug which I
Think it was impossible right yeah
Especially on fights for you want to like amplify certain damage profiles more like frosty K
You're frosty cam brute twister
You've seen these at times one or even like zero augs being played which is quite interesting
But devs also pretty good too, right?
Yeah, DEV is real good.
DEV has this issue on details where your scale commander bombardments actually don't show up on the damage meter,
so they end up showing up worse than they're actually performing.
The bombardment damage is actually attributed on details to the players that the bombardments are proccing on,
so then you'd have to go into logs to actually look and see what the actual attribute is to the DEV Voker.
But that's why you'll see...
That's why you saw three DEVs being run on Nexus Princess, and they're like,
Spots 14th, 13th and 12th, but they're actually in logs.
Spots like 3rd, 4th, and 5th or whatever.
Makes sense, that makes sense actually.
That's that visual like flying overhead, it's the Lizards squad.
Yeah, the Lizards squad.
Nice Marinette, it's okay.
Scale commander is so cool, you got that, you got masses integrate, you got steerable deep breath.
Mm-hmm.
Any one of those three things would be cool on its own and that here at Talentree gets three of them.
You also get 10% DR when you press obsidian scales.
Yep. Not bad. Not bad.
Yeah, it's interesting that they've sort of inherited some of AUG's issue with the details of the damage meters being uh,
being breakdivided by that.
Supportive style.
Probably should pay for greatness. It's alright.
Yep.
Yep.
Yeah, I like how they do this web as well.
Yeah.
It's so much more convenient and coordinated compared to what I've been seeing in most of our rogues.
Strides at this point.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Boss route is super easy here.
So this is actually one of those damage amps you're talking about here, right?
Right.
When the boss gets stunned it's taking double damage, I believe.
Yeah.
Things like Magpheen's mandate, large damage effects, cooldowns being held for that point in the fight.
And the further you go, there are Amps like that in like that phase two and a half point where you'll get pulled in as a raid later on
and wept that boss again later on. I think they're like the seven-ish minute mark give or take, so
optimizing around those damage, Amps can net you a large amount of extra progression on this boss health-wise, right?
Coming up here, this is that first intermission we're getting into with Skeen Splinter.
This is the shield from the boss, which you see like the range and melee, I guess like the two clumps,
the red and blue thumbs rotating here counterclockwise, silking each other's orbs
and behind them you have these, ooh it's hit by the back of the frontal there
you have this group of two ranged basically doing their own
individual soaks behind the group, sort of like just not over-complicate and
clutter that melee comp as well
you also have to make sure that you're soaking each of those moats because
if you actually don't end up soaking one of the most they end up blowing up and killing
the other color, whether it be the rage or the parent,
you get a debuff.
Yeah, like right here for example, somebody has RNG and these like webs coming out,
it's actually really frustrating to get you having to run like 30 yards,
not to get hit by this frontal,
but at the same time leaving an orb back where he drops for his partner,
it makes it even more complicated to soak that without wiping the raid.
It's missing an orb, it gives everybody a stack,
and three stacks, you just die permanently.
You can't be rash, you die again, it's over.
There's five people dead here, I think so this is probably going to end up being a wipe here in just a moment.
Yeah, likely. It could be they're getting dangerous more reps here at the same time that losing that warlock means down to one gate as well
So they're having a change that's tried a bit depending on how they wanted to use those two gates simultaneously, but
Yeah
This is about that time roughly what that next choke point was where it schemes what I was gonna do his large like
Penta dispel which we're getting close to which you have we seen all 20 players alive through that dispel yet?
I don't think so. I think they had a massive spell once or twice
It's actually right here that the spell. Yeah, they did the mass about it actually works on this ball
Yeah, so I mean not fully alive, but it's almost like getting back to the last progression point in the sense that next choke point
You get through and then the boss is taking 100% increased damage whenever you get that to spell on. Yeah, the bosses won't correct
Yes, indeed both the stun on him and the web on the first boss
So there's two webs there's two webs in the first boss which takes six players to stop the boss from hitting the wall
So two damage amps then schemes player the tall guy would have two
dispells for double damage amp there and then it began sort of alternating between like rooting the boss and phase 3
I believe stunning boss again. I think at that point you're basically hitting a rage. So
Goop is
second place in the damage meter, but the enhancement shaman is doing 300,000 more DPS than the dev evoker. That's in second
That is uh, you know that's what shaman might be a good spec guys might be
Maybe possibly who could have seen that this tier hmm like we had a nobody could have predicted this
Yeah, you're good with a plus too. Yeah, Ellie as well. Kind of add Sean a little bit by in-hands, but honestly very good.
All three Shaman specs are, yeah, very good.
Yeah, Rester Shaman as well. We saw it being used on Kaiveza to great effect. Not currently in for Siliconcourt.
I think that Rester Shaman suffers from the fact that
Prezavoker is so good.
Yeah, I think the way that it works is that if your raid is consistently stacked up enough to be getting hit by the Prezavoker stuff,
It's pretty hard to justify dropping one for an Arsham Arsham's used to have this niche of being the
Okay, everybody needs to be in my healing rain or else. I'm sad spec
But they're actually a lot more capable of doing that that spread healing now with those chain heal bounces with the totemic hero talent
tree
Then they used to be and now prez of ochre is sort of the
Dominating if everybody's in my dream breath. I'm the best dealer in the game by a lot spec
I'm gonna break the fourth wall of it
You guys want to know why Dreadnest knows that? Because Jack was in our castor room recording a video about Helus in the actual first
and Jack was explaining the exact thing that Dreadnest said.
I'll be taking those points. I'll be making them on broadcast.
They've been just running up right now, yeah.
Little spoilers for the newest Jack video.
I made a little cameo in that video as well if you go watch it, yeah.
A bit of a blueprint.
Yeah.
A blueprint.
A blueprint, yeah.
No problem.
That was a little odd, but it's not the right word.
Close enough.
Very nice.
Yeah, this race has been really close to men's.
That's just really cool, seeing a three dog race in a sense with Method performing pretty well this tier.
Barely, they got a kill.
Dude, when did they solidify their Tyvesa kill?
It was two hours after Echo.
Okay.
I would say it was like two hours after Echo, maybe?
Something like that, yeah.
So they're definitely in the hunt here as well.
It's interesting as well because this tier is definitely going over the reset at this point.
What shall us guess for when this tier ends?
your ms right based on like what you see right now what day yeah I'm kind of
thinking it's a Saturday what is it what is the 27th yeah unfortunately our
flights are the Friday if it is Saturday to your little issue there but I'm sure
we can figure that out there are logistics people who love handling that
sort of thing oh yeah for the I personally I'm not doing anything so I
okay oh I have no life either that's all right I feel like this boss I expect
I think this boss would be a little more challenging than it actually is though.
I expect to see a lot of really wipes and just not this foreign progression is fast.
I think the fight does a little bit less damage maybe than I anticipated.
I think that was the thing that caught me a bit off guard.
I mean we are seeing them of course still struggling to get deeper into the fight.
We're already nearly 100 pulls in and we haven't gotten to that 50% marker.
We haven't gotten to that 60% marker.
We don't even know what the enrage check is on this fight either.
So I would say let's, you know, we're seeing these, it's been easier to get to, it's been
easier to get to three minutes in this fight than I would have guessed, but it looks like
it's still very hard to get much deeper than that into the fight.
Yeah, flashback to Tindra where you had those a million phase one wipes, half a minute
into the fight.
That was what it was like on PTR testing, but it hasn't been like that here for realsies.
We have a question from chat.
It says, this might be a silly question, but why does it always take so long to
finish the race?
These are the best players in the world.
can it's not be that hard to figure out right yeah exactly so it's just that
there there aren't any players as good as you in here but if you former guild
with with 19 of your friends you could probably come in here and smoke these
these guys easy yeah so I would say I would say get in there you know come
come play that world first it's pretty easy to do you give it your best yeah
Yeah, let's go.
Absolutely.
I like it.
It's a little bit like no, like...
No, it's for the taking.
The world first is still available.
There's still two bosses left.
Plenty of time to get a team together.
Especially if you...
I mean, why are they parking so slow?
Yeah, why aren't they pulling right now?
Yeah.
Yeah, see, you could just wrap a fire.
Just kill it.
Yeah, it dies when we die.
It's one of two options that's going to happen here.
It's basically it, right?
Like, you either win or you don't.
Yeah.
Very simple.
more serious answer
what more serious you i might answer one serious enough for you
who
what's your answer that
uh... so i mean
all three gilder basically at this boss around the same time so
when it comes to being at a boss especially for the first year you're
the
european city like
designing the blueprint the schematic before that boss progression wise i
mean
you saw nexus princess liquid have more polls on that fight then echo a
method
I think a decent bit, because they were the first guild to get there, designing the strat, within reason, right?
I'm sure guilds had their own strat behind the scenes, but they're the first guild to one tank that fight.
They were the first guild innovating upon strategies, and depending on when guilds reach bosses,
it's quite... you see it quite often in the race, where liquid
echo method will trade back and forth for best percents, depending on when they reach the boss,
their sleeve schedules, their product schedules, all that kind of stuff.
But, being the first guild here, seeing the mechanics for the first time, designing around that, it's not as simple as it may seem.
So definitely a bit more complicated on a boss like this where there's there's no room for error as well
I think it's also one of those things that
Hundreds of poles just take time
Also, and not every fight is something that you can actually just like walk in and one shot
Was it not right meaning this this here in particular normally we don't seem a bunch of over a hundred pull fights
But we've already seen about 500 poles this a bit over actually 500 poles if you if you count something court
Which isn't... it's not super common to see this many pulls, but this is definitely one of the reasons that it's going to be going as long as it is this time around.
Yeah, I think if the question is like, oh, these fights, you know, they look easy, you're playing against a computer, you have these free-determined timings, which you'll hear PvPers make these arguments about why PvE is easy.
I'm pulling my eyes.
That sure is, they're actually really quite tough to execute most of these mythic mechanics,
especially with this level of gear.
You require a level of, you know, not perfection, but pretty close.
And the strategy as well is very intricate.
The movement here is difficult.
All the numbers checks are pretty high.
All of that plus figuring out and adjusting your strategy from pole to pole is a lot
of work.
I think perfection is a word you could use by Nexus Princess.
Nexus Princess is a perfect quality.
That was pretty high.
That was perfect.
It was oh my gosh, I don't know if I've seen a boss in a while that required that perfect level of execution
Maybe like a long it reminded me of week one ragalaw or week two ragalaw
I guess it was oh, yeah, we two ragalaw. Well was crazy. Yeah
Next to princess. I think it's like an rare Friday or in terms of boss difficulty. I think yeah
I'm like race towards first history. Yeah, definitely a historic type of difficulty to be in the middle of a raid
I guess the later middle half as we are getting into this first intermission now
we're seeing
Yip's here
Leading the mark of rage group around the boss in a little circle
As they need to go and grab all these motes left by the other team and then keep moving in a nice
group
What they want to do is they want to kind of lightly spread before each of these damage instances gets shot out of them
So they drop a nice spread of motes because you really need to make sure that you do not soak three
Motes before that debuff expires or else you will get killed
If we can keep all 20 players alive coming out of this intermission and then be able to get all five packs down comes back up
though. Yeah, that's an onk. Not bad. That's not bad. If we can get all five dispels on to the boss here
I think that we're gonna be able to see maybe even a new best here
Yeah, pretty much. We have one power as available here as well
The next mechanic you're going to see is that scheme splinter tenta dispel under the boss
Which we'll see I believe in a moment after this grip that comes in the right
It's really hard to look at that the grip comes in so we have two players dead
and Exile, maybe somebody with a mark staying too close to under boss or something.
You can res one here fire it up down as well.
You can res fire it up at one of them here and get to that next spell coming in.
See the cast coming in? Was that it right there?
Yeah, we have the debuffs now starting to get the spells onto the boss.
Yep, there's the cast. Yep, the big one's being cast right now.
You need these five debuffs to go off of there about three seconds here.
Yep, there's some of the boss.
Okay, so now the boss is walking around base, taking 100% increased damage
and the entire raid is trying to leave as much damage as possible
While focusing down
Yeah, but that boss up to days to jump
Where are they supposed to be lusting do you think is it on the four minute spy masters web?
But with the probably so there is a start on a part of heroic where both bosses are in a damage at the same time
That you can maybe try and hold a lust for but I feel like yeah
It's maybe four minutes maybe it's six minutes so that you can line up with your
Your two and three minute classes although there's not an awful lot of three-minute classes in the game
Yeah, that's the spells coming in here as well the boss gonna port to the middle here in a moment
You're gonna see that next pen to dispel set coming in momentarily if we can make it past this already being a best pull here
You could oh, there's a lot of radium is going here as well
You're gonna have a spread coming in the boss. Hey
So alive just belt three assigned to in back here, so they have an ordering of this now to
Get me about one now the spell off now
We trust you so one word nice done. Oh nice. Cool. Okay, so 16 people alive
It's I mean obviously it's not perfect, but we have a new best, right? Yeah, we're actually 10% off of our new best
And this this is looking pretty solid. I think we might be able to see even further into this fight
This could be a reclamation of that rank one spot on our point base leaderboard here
What's the next big mechanic?
Yep, here comes the intermission
This is gonna be a weird spike to the ground at the dodge for about a half minute
There's a pretty good chance that the bosses that yeah the boss is now shielded health will not be moving from here for a little
And we have to find a way to do this intermission. Yeah, lust to get through this intermission makes sense
And again, we've got a similar strategy where the melee groups of each of the marks are rotating around the boss in this
Counterclockwise direction and every time that big damage hit comes out there then going and soaking the motes
Oh my got the other group left behind here, too
It is like so much faster than her like it is troll that you have to soak the motes while these spikes are going
I'm blue the other side one blue in there. We got it just last work
and we made it out of the intermission.
Very nice.
All right.
OK.
And we rotated back to the battle rest of the 430 mark,
so we actually ended up getting Driny back-resed.
Yeah, we're good here.
We've got 17 players alive as the final phase of the fight
starts.
Now, unfortunately, the bosses still
have a lot of health here for this last phase.
Not sure I love that.
I think what happens next is a grip in followed by a charge.
So everybody's going to get gripped in,
and you're going to get webbed with a random person,
and you need to break most of those pairs,
But you need on Mythic to keep three of them grouped together.
As then you have to stop the charge.
The next charge.
Here it is.
So right is called here, which means this is somebody who's
supposed to break their web.
You can see there are a few people who are trying to keep
their webs.
Oh my goodness.
But you have the powers of wrapping your own.
This charge was going to make it accept the web.
Gosh.
Oh, OK.
You have to get that link.
Oh, the web is broken.
OK.
Oh!
There's a web now.
Let's give you a Y.
That is a Y.
Bang.
It's the wall.
But look at that boss, HB.
Nearly at that 50% mark.
That is huge progression, 14 liquid there and that's going to help them reclaim place number one on our Coinbase leaderboard, let's go.
They just shot up from third place to first place on our Coinbase leaderboard, that is crazy.
That was good prog, we hadn't seen them be able to make it through that first five dispel.
It was one of the situations that after they made it through the first time, it seemed like everything just kind of clicked.
Even though they had a couple of deaths, you know, days are into the going down, impact into the going down.
Fired up and drying it, various points were also dead.
They made it to the 430 mark, they popped that onc.
Everybody was able to actually be alive.
They made it through that Scare of phase
where that boss is shielded and you have the spikes coming out.
Now, you probably don't want to lust that, all things considered.
I think you're going to probably want to lust somewhere at some point.
Yeah, the boss is shielded here.
So if you can make it through this phase,
you'd rather not use the lust, right?
The lust is getting a little bit less value here.
I mean, it's not the end of the world.
You do have to do that all that damage eventually anyway.
So it could be you could make an argument for an intermission loss, but I suspect this was more of a progression. Yeah progress here right
We got here a couple people are dead. Let's hit that less. Let's get out of here and see that last phase
Yeah, so basically these burrows coming out here after this what we saw is basically both bosses have one final like special ability cast left in
A sense you're gonna see after this burrow phase is over the boss will pull everybody in you have to actually hold three of those root links to
Root the boss is gonna charge the wall
It's an easy one try on the rate if not done which we saw but you're also gonna have that burrow overlapping in a minute here
Which makes it exceptionally hard to live through all that with that insane link damage blasting her for a while as well
All right, we need people start spamming USA in the chat
My all those labs. Yeah
Yeah, okay, sir basically the way that it works on heroic at least is you have the grip in and then the charge
Then you have a set of disfells and then there was a really nasty overlap on heroic
which I suspect will persist in Demithic, where you have a charge and dispel set happening simultaneously.
That is going to be really interesting to see how they manage that.
As you can see, Driny tried briefly to break his web and then they kind of realized,
oh actually we still need that one.
But unfortunately, yeah, we saw one of them getting broken early and they weren't able to get all three to stop that charge.
That was why we ended up eventually wiping there, although, of course, we had had a few earlier deaths there, so...
Cleaning up those earlier deaths, I mean, the proof of concept is there for phases 1 and 2.
One thing I'm tremendously worried about here is that health presented on the boss.
Yeah, there were 50% coming out in there.
50.5 to 6 and a half minutes into the fight, so at that pace, that's a 13 minute encounter that they would be setting up for.
Yeah, what's the average?
Less than 13.
It's like 9 or 10 somewhere in there.
I thought it was like 9, but yeah.
It's not 13, I'll tell you that much.
Now of course there were players dead.
There were players dead.
And there's damage amps to be...
And there's damage amps.
I already had some of those.
Interlust sucked for damage.
Yeah, our lus was not great, but I mean, the boss is going to get the same amount of shield
every pull.
You're always going to have to break that shield, so it's kind of just always extra
health you have to do.
That's true.
It's not that bad to lest it.
That's true.
You would want to lest ideally a good damage amp with cooldowns though.
What is this?
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Cope.
It's month, day, day, year, year.
Go on, dear NASCAR!
Where'd my Rico?
Log in.
That's a good point.
Yeah, alright.
I'm actually really surprised by the cadence of abilities in this fight.
I feel like, we talked about it a bit already.
It's basically like it's just the heroic cast sequence now, yeah.
Yeah, it's the same speed as Heroic.
There's like, downtime between each set.
It's not as anywhere near as technical as Tindral was on Mythic Arc the Heroic.
Yeah, that was the Mythic Difference on Tindral.
One of seven Mythic Differences on Tindral was that the cast sequence was just accelerated up to 11.
up to 11 and it seems like Silicon Court probably due to the moats mechanic
hasn't had that treatment applied to it between testing and release. I will say
it's probably good. The moat mechanic does look like the hardest part just how
they have to position. They're basically moving clockwise at any given
moment around this room just trying to make sure that they're able to sweep
up and pick up the moats from the other you know basically if you're
affected with rage you go pick up the paranoia moats and vice versa and
So they're just a kind of constantly moving and that's why you see all of those melee DPS
Just trying to do as much damage as possible
And it's it's one of the situations too that I think the melee DPS are a little bit more favored
But then you have like the Devavoker and that Desterlock and that that mage that are all doing pretty good damage
But they're having to play their own game, right? They're paired up with other ranged DPS that don't want to move as much
Yeah, days are also coming in pretty much immediately getting a massive new basketball here
Maybe he is the glue that's holding liquid together this year.
Retribution orb deleted, however.
Yeah.
Retribution orb.
How red aura.
Daythor is the red aura.
Red aura.
Coming in.
Gigachat.
Absolutely.
Not visible on the damage meters on this pole, but yet.
Yet, exactly, yeah.
It's a passive buff to the raid.
Passive buff to the raid, extra progression along the line.
Actually, I think that bringing in an extra external
in the form of a sack is probably really nice.
I was going to bring that up too as well, yeah.
It seems like a pretty solid choice overall.
It was kind of funny, Dazer came in on Nexus Princess and then proceeded to not die because
Red Paladin is unkillable and the boss as well.
I wonder if the same thing holds true to this fight?
Yes, Sanctified Plates is the most absurd talent to have ever existed.
Better than Third War, kind of point.
Yep, that's also a good talent.
Disgusting Paladins, I can't stand this.
Okay, Mr. Warlock.
Yeah, it is actually ironic that the Warlock is...
I sat up and I was like, they're gonna grill me for this.
They're gonna get you for this one. Hmm. It didn't even break my dark pact. Oh, that's a fact is stronger than some entire classes hit
Yeah
It's just like strong this year actually this boss. I feel like the warlock defensive profile is pretty well
Okay, yeah, it's bad versus it was bad on Kabeza. Yeah rot into like a one-shot
That's where the that's where the warlock profile is actually pretty bad
Where's that?
Kai-Bazza.
Yeah, but what, said, were we getting one-shot titles?
I didn't hear it, so...
Bought into a one-shot, the Warlock profile's not great for, but that's just so seldomly happens that it doesn't matter.
Just pop Darkbite and cooldown, it'll last long enough for the next one.
It's fine, don't worry about it, yeah, just perm it for a second to you, by the way.
What?
45 second cooldown, by the way.
Yeah...
Yes, but you know...
There's always more.
Alright, well, I mean, I do expect this boss.
I would venture to guess this boss is some...
Wait, I didn't...
I'm trying to think of my what's that I didn't recognize the hot pot here had a 1.7% white ball yeah
Yeah, that's about an hour and a half two hours ago give or take that would they're right there
Yeah, it's also 2 a.m. For them, so they're probably
Wifey 1.72
Hold on it's it's 12 from CST, so it's 4 a.m. For 4 a.m. Yeah, yeah almost certainly done. Yeah
It would be it would be wild if they were continued. Well, has there ever been a race world first skill that has pulled at 4 a.m.
local time. I know that Liquid back in Sanctib were going until like 3 a.m. but I
was average we came back at 4 a.m. right yeah I guess there's an early start yeah
that's a 4 5 a.m. I think roughly the four builds have been waking up at 5 yeah
you're being built start at 5 on the reset but I think 4 a.m. is probably the
least played hour of the of the day not for me though not for you of course
not nor I yes to that chatter and chat earlier forming that guild rate to
4 a.m. yeah exactly there you go optimize around it's a perfections
Uncharted Terranic says in chat, we did an old deer until 6am on Gahoon.
I remember the Gahoon... I do actually remember that.
That was before it was televised, but yeah.
I remember seeing the pictures of the 600K Gahoon while...
And then there was the reset incident.
Yeah, there was... mistakes were made back in that deer.
Do you extend? No.
I think it's very, very, very, very...
No, the answer is always no. You don't extend unless you're within like 10% killing that boss and who was even somewhere around there like a
recent of Gears brings so much especially even if like I
Don't think so. I think it's right. It'll be incredibly easy to re-clear as well
I'm just to clarify. We're talking about old year many months ago years ago this one
My life just runs together
But yeah, so this Tuesday
Same almost it's almost impossible to imagine a situation where you would ever extend a lockout as a race world first guild in the modern era
Yeah
Like it's very the the lockout extendo button is for like two-day guilds
I don't even know what you would it's because like in the race world first. They're rating quite legitimately
16 hours a day right it's just so hard for there to be a boss that you'd have to be like at
at 0.3% on a boss and like know that your great vault is gonna kill it and
You know and there has to be really hard bosses that are hard to re-clear for like I actually don't think that
Liquid is ever in a situation where they would extend
I do think that there is maybe a world where echo would wake up at 5 a.m. On reset and extend lockout
We could if you're not where you and echo are both at 0.3% on a boss echo are actively pulling it on their first reset
Your second reset hits
And you've been wiping it 0.3% 10 times, because it's a really tight end raid and you have to pull the boss.
But you don't know for sure that they can't kill it with first reset gear, and so they are pulling the boss right now.
So you wake up, you open your vaults, and you get in there and you extend it.
It's not impossible that it's very hard for that to happen.
I could see it be more likely with Echo than Liquid if Liquid is like about to wake up and about to actually start pulling a boss.
And then like echo your own like your first reset and like was gonna be hitting their second
Yeah, although again, I feel like you just
You take your reclear and most of it like we don't kill it you would in general
Yeah, because the reclear is just so much the reclear is so powerful. Yeah, you get so much gear from a reclear
Reclars actually been very good for you know, like you guys were saying two-day guilds that
No, it's struggle to rekill tendril in a oh you mean extending a lot sure say the lockout
Yeah, yeah, I think that's that is the main use case for that lockout extension button is if you're in a guild
You know now you're seven weeks into the tier your gear is good
Obviously you'd like to reclear but you want that progression time more right and you don't want to sacrifice half of your week's progression time
of
Reclaring okay, I think we got some mobs that we can take a look at while the guild is talking about some week or stuff and some
Strategy stuff of course if you want your mog rated you can go to TL.gg slash RWF dash donate
We were raising money for the Santa Monica animal shelter.
It was this flying draeneye.
Yeah, life force draeneye.
You don't see all that often, right Paladin?
Yeah, there's that.
One of the artifact weapon skins for rat palleys.
I kind of like the color of this draeneye compared to the Mog.
I like it as well.
Yeah, I like the kind of, I don't know the art terms
for it, but it all kind of fits together.
You know.
That was much right, this.
I want to hear your rating first.
Seven and a half eight. Is that high for you? I think it's good luck. Yeah, okay. Is it because of the tail or it's just
I'm not applying anything. I'm just wondering what the rating is from I would get I would get this an 8.2
I think this is really good. Okay. Oh good luck. I like it. All right. Do cookie dough the dwarf
Yes, tell kooky doodles. Yeah, exactly
Cookie dough from the guild very technical unlike his name
I like the staff it's a classic the moral tree root hold out of a little eight quests in
Hell went for us very nice. That's a 10. Yeah
That's a 10 9.6
Anytime we've got a goofy log and or like a simple mug a classic mug and a good name cookie dough great name for character
Yeah.
For Kukidoo.
Yeah.
I think this language is complicated, I don't know what you're talking about.
It can honestly be pronounced anyway.
There's no way to know.
I believe you believe that.
Oh, sorry.
Shut up.
Dreadnest has told you that a few times and that you have to keep reusing it.
My dad told me that.
He said that my whole life to me.
I've been ridiculed forever.
I believe that.
Sorry.
I believe you believe that is an all-time great.
All right, we're underway just after that progression fall, hoping to see that point
again.
That is going to be the crucial variable for this fight.
Whether this boss could die potentially today and also whether it's, you know, a 150-pole
boss or a 450-pole boss, one of the most crucial variables for that is going to be
are we going to be able to avoid phase one wipes, right?
Are we going to be able to get to a point where phase one is clean and consistent?
Or are we going to have one of those progress graphs that's kind of spiking back up and
down where every hole we're losing that momentum, we're wiping in phase one again?
I feel like this is a fight where you'll actually see more consistent progression.
Yeah, I think so as well because unlike Kaiveza, there's not just like unfair, the boss
kills you.
There wasn't much you could do.
We don't have a battle race.
Yeah.
There was this weird situation where they just had zero battle races for the entire
fight so they'd have to reset it over and over again.
Yeah, there's also the fact of the matter, like, do you just have a damage for this fight?
Right, I mean, we've seen six in that phase from the fight.
We're expecting about three more minutes, so it's almost hard to rage in this fight, and you're at 50%.
But I will say, right now, seeing that actual first boss be wept there, there are multiple damage amps for the course of this fight.
Looking back at Brute Twister, Kaiveza, there are plenty of ways you can optimize your damage.
I'm sure, in honest, looking at things, maybe we can pull C2D off this ad set into that damage amp.
Maybe you want to move less to a damage amp.
Maybe you hold your Mag Queen's Bandage Flater on for other damage amps.
There are a lot of ways to optimize around it, but 50% is a pretty high amount on the climb. It's not 5%.
50% is a lot. So mechanically, not as challenging, but I would venture to guess a lot of holes in this fight are going to be based on damage.
We had two deaths there with the Dronachro and Rivens, now Nick going down.
I suspect this is going to end up being another wipe. This is totally the part that they've been wiping at the most, is this intermission.
and then from this intermission going into that five dispel on the boss as well,
those are probably the two most common points that they've been wiping so far.
Yeah, that choke point of that pamphlet dispel use of the five dispels, they've been nothing to
mass the first one I believe. You might see a shift into individual dispels there though.
When we get to it in a little bit here, we're doing it if you're dead, we can
we can stagger along for a bit more here. It should have a better rise in about a minute
it in half but like we talked about the cadence of this fight feels a good bit
slower than I think most expected you can make decent progress along the way but
just straight up surviving here and seeing programs of the fight without
there being a craze might have nasty overlaps you deal with comparatively to
hurrowing. They're actually continuing on with this whole even with Nick dead I
assume that Nick was gonna... We're not at the point in progression yet where
you call wipes after one or two deaths I don't think. Yeah it's more just
like the the healer being down causes a bit of a yeah it's tough but we do have
that we do have the break bloodlust in place in case of emergency button
available yeah to make it through say the second intermission with down a healer
unfortunately it looks like we didn't quite land our dispels onto the boss
I think that third is going to be a player yeah unfortunately very good
with that next to the spell but I think somebody was too close to melee and a
jump to them but that's one issue with that yeah you have to be aware
of getting your dispelling or not near anybody else it can jump to you
What happens actually if it jumps deep Dean do you have to just all it as well?
It's not like it it doesn't do or something wipe you but it's it will what it will wipe you
It's not that it wipes you instantly right exactly like you can react to it
If you have an extra disbell you can recover from it if you have like a dwarf on whoever it accidentally jumps to it
It there is counterplay to it, but most of the time if that happens
It's probably gonna result in white whenever it whenever doesn't spend on her oak
It was always just like don't mess it up. Yeah
Yeah, mm-hmm so easier than it may seem yeah to your average heroic pug though
Well, that's a
Option I don't think that this fuck this raid for heroic and honestly
I'm probably probably whenever you're able to find something that thing is not too bad
It starts to really ramp up once you feel like Brute twister right the hardest part of bugs is here
And heroic is likely Brute twister. I'm a venture. Yes, actually breaking eggs consistently probably the hardest part of bugs
Yeah, on Heroic, you can only miss one egg per section, and you have to break that innermost
one on the very first go, you have to break all of the next ring by the second go.
HPS check is also pretty steep on Brutwister, especially compared to the fights that came
before it.
Yeah, that's fair.
Anyways, it sounds like we have been preparing a monster energy listen in, and we can listen
to hear what the raiders have been talking about.
We had a recently new best pull and so kind of I think that's it's an opportune time to be able to listen in as to what's been going on there.
So check that out.
Everyone's here with Goop is on heroic when you got dispelled where Goop is it went to the boss in mythic it doesn't very unlikely.
You have to stand directly under the boss as long as everyone will understand that we talked about this two polls ago by the way and showed that but just as a second example.
You guys have to stand under the boss or you will do what just happened to us
Right boom just get it other deals and people they don't feel so good
You went out of care, but you got doing
He's opening dude
Designs very crazy. Okay, we're rotating in three two one
and
And ads are spawning now.
It adds under the boss.
Okay, rain.
And we're rotating.
Give me space here.
Yep, get out of the way, Dronachan's at me.
What about puppy?
Okay, ads are spawning right now.
And then we're getting a rain and a frontal.
And then this is the giga rotate.
We got a weird one arranged.
Okay, we're rotating.
Three, two, one, go.
And we're blown up here.
We're gonna be out of mouth.
By the way, we're blown up here.
Okay, intermission spots.
I would like a time when the intermission actually starts.
Whatever we have now.
Okay, first pulse.
Crooker.
Blink.
Okay, first pulse.
I push it.
He must have gotten knocked in from there.
There's a couple of red orbs.
Oh, we just blew up.
I think we're going to die. I think this is a go-next angle.
I feel like the blue team normally almost laps the red team, maybe because we're melee and they walk past more.
So, we're dropping...
Yeah, really, all of the melee and that group are in the other group, so I don't think that's really a thing.
Okay.
Like, somebody was cheating before the orbs came out, and then there's always like two or three really far ahead.
Maybe we assign a captain to each group?
I mean you should just stop on the last red orb or like the last opposite of that so
You don't have to make it all the way to the soaks initially you can be one over from it
But I mean for the next one you just stop for the last orb of the opposite color was so
You don't continue rotating for a reason
Yeah, the next one. Yeah, correct. Is that what's happening? Let me see
Okay, that's what
What was saying was happening with some people are cheating. All right, let's watch let's watch the blue group
Let's watch it as a group
Okay, so the mission starts which by the way, this is what I want for intermission. It says like the countdown here
It's like intermission two and then there's nothing happening. Nothing happening. No timers. No timers. No timers
It's beginning right that seems weird
For these spawns you guys would shoot right at this and you would just probably wait here
Oh, you guys went all the way. That's fine. Then you just wait for that to go off you move in
Now you would now you would stay here
the other it's like running oh yeah yeah blue just needs to soak their shit
and stay still you guys are here they're fucking moving
That's what I meant.
Why are you guys doing that?
It's a race, man. We gotta go.
It's not a race.
That's a race.
That's what we're doing.
It's almost four orbs.
Just listen to the clear.
We have to go so far to suck the blue one.
You guys are hard grieving.
We're doing my extra dodges too.
the week or a now is very good that the ticks are exactly right
check this is just muted point themselves if you wanted us to hear we
let us hear rotate here we have funnels on you guys like every time get that
knock here I'll kill that there's one on the boss there's this cleared one is
that you by the way it's like cleared and there's still two words yes I've
cleared it I was like okay can you please red lip blue people anyone yeah I
know they spread out rotate six of them that it's enough a frontal on blue here
and then you give read you have three of them Drinaco and Zevi
I'm looking for one shot red male that we're coming through.
Rain here and waiting.
Adds, get adds in the boss while we're waiting to rotate.
Good rotating in three, two, one.
Now, those are going up in five, four, three, two.
Good, good job.
P1's looking great.
All right, somehow a blue and a red ran into each other
right here last pull.
How did that happen?
It was like right now, like what could have even happened
for that to occur?
There's the vodka at K does it had to be a Bernadio did
What's not that makes most pull it was like you and you and you're not going to run into each other
You'd want to move early. Yeah, it's fired up can't go too close to the screen
I'm trying to change this place right now.
You put your shit before I forward.
I'm on the finish line.
Yo, Blue, we're shitin' right here, not over there.
Blue, you soak your herbs and you stop.
You shit where you eat.
Hell yeah.
You shit where you eat.
It's over, by the way.
It's over, and then soak orbs.
Have you shit?
One more over each team. Have you shit?
Is that it again?
I think this is free.
That's so nice.
Okay.
Make sure you get to opposite marks
Okay, red vortex go hard left hard right red
Blue you go front left front right do not fucking soak
Until you go out. I'll call first to spell but soak orbs first everyone get your orb soaps now
Who means getting dispelled in three two one now and
days are in three two one
fired up in three two one now
Now, thank you for the frontal in three, two stuns.
Thank you, and Rivens now.
No point in it.
How does it go to me?
I'm not familiar with it.
Thank you, Scott, stun.
That's what slowed it down.
I mean, it could have just been the spell I did in the back.
But yeah.
Yeah, now it's not the first time, I wasn't sure.
It slowed it down because I called for you to get bopped,
and we delayed the dispel.
It's absolutely what caused that to happen.
should if there's something that turns
when that's all in the second five.
Yeah, that's part of the double.
That's, that's, that's, I mean, yeah, but...
When's the weaker it works to?
Like numbers like four and five should get externals to you?
Also, is it a problem if four and five just get one?
Like what happens at worst?
Like one guy gets two sacks and you just...
Oh, these are externals?
I feel like it's not even close.
We just need to not have people get stunned or die
or die or be on the right channel I think we need to bring it back I'm assuming that
would be it look at the res this board they just want you to teach and correct where there
is they're just gonna keep buffing the boss until you have today are cranking the tank
a lot of one hundred percent craze so so piercing strikes base damage by 250 the
The volume by a thousand, wait what?
They added a zero.
Does it fall off faster?
Yes.
Oh, okay.
Okay, yeah, it's duration is decreased to 36 seconds
and the health is decreased by five.
How do they keep decreasing?
Welcome back to Hope again.
All right, so Scott, we're back again for sure, right?
I like the album.
I like the album.
I cannot live without that.
W change, W change.
You can't get it because you can.
But believe me, W change.
by five or five percent
Let's get Scott in for doing the normal right now
I mean honestly, I like that shit like dude the whole this one's hanging shit's French
Yeah, I agree. I like this.
You know what's funny though?
They've used the health by five is crazy.
Because we've been using a one-time card.
I think the boss's health might have needed to get nerfed regardless, so it's fine.
But by five is nothing.
Dude, it was so funny. The first time we were here.
It's so small. We have one card.
It's got your own team.
We can go.
We can go.
Thank God. How long is left in that normal?
They're on...
They're on Silicon Court. Yeah, it's not long. Oh, shit.
Like 15 minutes, good. W.
Let's get the fucking good pull.
Just stay in the range.
Let's figure out who on the blue team is going to be out for Scott.
I'm assuming it's Daisy, but I think it could be a warrior too.
Clear. Clear.
Let's fucking go.
It's good to be clear.
Front home blue. W.
I like it. I like it. Yeah, I like it too.
Well, Susan, I was expecting it.
4 dBs rotating in 3, 2, 1.
I see extra red orbs here.
I think there was a mistake on red side, maybe,
but it can be solved.
Four more red orbs going up in five seconds.
One more.
We're good.
Like a web bomb cleave there or something?
Maybe I'm very too safe.
I'm very close.
Hell, I should have lived right now.
I think you're right, Jerni. Assigning an external of 4 and 5 is really good.
Alright, so we're back with that monster energy listening.
Welcome back to everybody in chat.
I felt like that was a lot more productive in terms of what we were hearing.
It sounds like Blizzard might be looking to hot-fix the boss
removing the ability to be able to one-tank the fight.
Yeah, so it sounds like the change isn't implemented just yet, but it will be coming soon to
Reduce the ability to one tank this fight by increasing the damage of the the tank attack the piercing strike
And potentially the duration of the debuff that it leaves behind as well
There is a compensation nerf to the boss's health coming as well by either five or five percent
Shaq was unclear on which of those it was good
We're five, okay.
Either five flat or five percent,
so we're not sure which of those two it would be.
It could be either one, honestly.
It could be either one, yeah.
We'll have to check once it actually does get implemented.
But either way, Scott is currently finishing up
a normal run on one of his characters,
and hopefully that'll be just about done
whenever that change does get applied
and they'll figure out who to swap in
or who to swap out for him.
There was a bit of a discussion as to
who was supposed to be coming out,
whether it was Daze or whether or not
it was one of the Warriors.
I don't really, what do you guys have preference wise
in terms of the palette versus the warrior on this fight?
I think the warrior's better.
It's probably the propellant I'm pulling out, likely.
On an adventuring gas, I mean,
I guess it depends a bit on damage profiles
I'm looking for, but I mean.
Yeah, they were talking about the value
of a defensive external on the fourth and fifth targets
of those swarms, because they have to hold that
for quite a while, and it does quite a lot of damage
on Mythic difficulty, so,
Daesir does bring one of those as a DPS player,
but of course, Raleigh brought by the warriors as well.
I'm kind of thinking you could drop your second enhancement shaman.
Obviously, enhancement shaman does a lot of damage on this fight, but it doesn't bring anything external.
It brings a Windrush totem, which is nice, but I don't think quite as good as Zac bubble bop rally.
I wonder what the damage to the boss looks like versus the damage to the scarabs too,
because it might be one of those things that the enhancement shaman is just too valuable to drop.
Yeah, the enhancement shaman boss damage is going to be better than its overall, for sure.
Well, it's overall is... yeah, Impact is doing something to that boss as well.
Yeah.
Oh, oh.
I think it's the Impact Diff, honestly.
I've been crushing every single fight I see here.
It's just the Impact Diff, but...
Party not far behind either, but I would be...
I think my instinct would be to take out one of them rather than a warrior or a ret
pali.
So, building upon that, what do you think Scotland is playing in this fight?
Blood decay, guardian's root, blood decay, probably blood did grips.
So the grips are nice, you already have grips from your frost decays,
and there's not too many of those abs, you have two frost decays.
If you play bear, you could just swap in one for one the bear for the moonkin,
so that could work out, although that is an extra person in melee for one less person at range.
But maybe that's good, I don't know, the moonkin overall has looked good on a lot of these bulls.
But that's pretty good for the first one as well, right?
Like, you can do quite a lot of burst on that Moonkin
into those targets at the 100% health end, right?
I think the balance druid is okay.
I don't think that they have like the most first damage, right?
Do you think the Moonkin is bad?
I think you run into an issue of you...
You have too many melee on spots.
There's not enough range spots.
I think that the balance druid occupies like a pretty...
Yeah, so you want to cut a melee for a tank,
rather than a range for a tank?
I think I can get behind that, yeah.
That's what I'm thinking.
In that case, I do think RAP Alley is the most obvious swap,
but I would be tempted to think about the Enhance instead.
I think the Moonken is pretty good here.
I don't think it's like insane or anything, it's obviously not like top-enclining like that, but it's like,
you know, middle of the faction.
This could be a Prop Alley fight as well, it's not something that we've seen in a lot of the other fights, but...
It's like a DK maybe, but...
Yeah, I mean if they have a geared Prop Alley, I think this could be the off utility from it.
Bob, Spell Warding, both potentially very good, and you don't actually have to tank a lot of damage on this fight,
Which, Prop Alley's not very good at doing that this tier, but it is good at other things, and it's actually pretty good at tanking the bolts from this game spinner.
If you're standing in a concentration, you can block that spell, which is pretty good.
So, I don't know, they're not great against the physical damage, but you would just only have to taunt a few of those piercing strikes,
and otherwise you could basically always be holding the caster, and let Yipz always be holding the melee guy.
Interesting.
That would be something I'd be thinking about here, but an important variable for that would be if you have a geared prop alley, which I'm not sure they do.
But Ypsus play Paladin, it could be for that.
Yeah.
I don't know if he's played, right, I'm sure it's like relatively geared, but I'm not sure if it's a point where you can go in and tank Mythic Silk and Court
without seeing a whole lot of action from previous bosses this tier.
See mainly Blood Decay, and Blood Decay, Guardian, Druid, and Ypsus not really playing that Paladin very much.
Blood Decay is really good for being an extremely durable tank.
That was part of the reason it was so good on Overnax was not just the grips,
but also the durability that's back was extremely rewarded.
But this doesn't seem like a fight where I think once you move to the two tanks,
neither tank is going to be in much danger.
So I think the Blood Decay, I don't know, I'd kind of be tempted,
like I would just play the Guardian in that case and just play it in the cat weaving build
and try and do a lot of damage.
Oh, you'd go for more damage as opposed to having to take advice and the grips for the scarabs?
Exactly, like I think the grips are sufficiently covered by the two Frost Decays.
I wouldn't need, I wouldn't feel like Blood Decay is actually bringing anything to this fight.
Pretty valid.
So it seems like they're on a 5 minute break, probably waiting for those hot fixes to be applied to the boss.
In the meantime, there's some transmogs that we can be working to rate.
As well, of course, it's part of our charity drive incentive.
You can go to TL.GG.RWF-DONATE.
We are partnering up with the Santa Monica Animal Shelter, so a local animal shelter here in California.
And so this is a, what is it said?
That is a cow.
It is a cow.
That is a cow, that'll do that.
How do you pronounce it, N. Piddles?
I think it's probably like Daniel, right?
Heraniel?
It could be here, Neil.
Oh, okay.
Where is Neil?
Here, Neil.
You know?
What's he just checking us in?
I'm just enumerating the possibilities here.
Alright.
I think it looks decent.
I was like asking the arcane, cure and torque on the vibes to it, sort of, that's my typical mage set.
Yeah, like the gloves are pretty discordant with the rest of what they've got going on here,
especially from the blue accents on the sides and the back of these gloves.
Very much, I feel like out of place with the kind of purpley stuff going on with the rest.
Yeah, okay, I'll go 7, 7, 8. Nothing above an 8 can be given to a mage because they're rancous.
For 7, 8, it's solid.
Testing fair.
Mm-hmm.
I was thinking like a 3.
Well, there is an arcade-maged talent called the Rule of Threes,
so it would be thematic.
This is it, yes.
I wouldn't even have 7 as well.
I can't bring myself to give lower than 7 to anybody.
So I just give them a 0.
You got a little backhanded couple with there.
I guess we're saying 10 was a bad person.
Exactly, yeah.
I see.
If people are donating a charity and you're giving them a 3,
that's messed up.
You just give them a 7 out of 10?
Yeah, a 7 on a scale from 7 to 10.
Yeah, I know that believe me. Yeah, so I like this one actually do I feel like you don't see an awful lot of female Thorin mages
So it's an interesting as I do like the tour. I I'm not a hater of the tour and I think yeah the log
All right next up log. I like the weapon as well. I love that weapon. All right. We've got
Davros the Frost DK Zandalari troll with two Thunderfuries Wow
I like the I like the pirate with the Zandalari. I feel like that kind of fit that does go kind of crazy
8.2 8 that's better than 8.2 for me. This is a 9.3. All right the frosty cave with two thunder ferries
I I should I like this one a lot. I don't think it's super complicated
I think the shoulders kind of fit the we got red we got blue we got this kind of cold steel vibe
Holding it all together. It goes with the thunder ferries. Yeah, this is excellent. I'm thinking like a
Seven seven and a half. All right. All right, would you turn this I give it a 9.3? Okay 8.2. All right next up. What do we got?
Crit-maw.
From the SNH.
I feel like I'm...
Interesting. I have never seen that back attachment on a non-rogue or DH.
This doesn't look like a mage-mawg.
It does not at all, yeah.
It's a rogue, I feel like.
It is a mage.
I think that's a ventier back attachment.
This is quite the mawg. I think this is a 9.3 from me.
Nice. Stealing by, right from the last one, I see.
I don't know what you said on the last one, honestly, I wasn't listening, but hey, you know.
There are the Zareth Mortis swords as well, I love those.
There's tattoos on the lightsaber things.
Yeah, the tattoos, it makes you think Demon Hunter again, but...
Yeah, exactly. Rogue Demon Hunter vibes here.
The offhand... yeah. What did you get this one, Dreadnest?
Uh... I think it was an 8.9.
I was gonna go like 8.5, yeah, I like this one.
Even though it doesn't scream to me mage, I think it's just like...
...genuinely a pretty good-looking mod.
Yeah. I like the ones that also don't...
They're not just like super class all in, and it's kind of, once they kind of subvert the expectations for the class.
Mm-hmm.
That's pretty cool.
There's Miss Lady.
Definitely a priest, Mog.
Yeah, after the Waze.
After the Waze.
Got the Priest artifact weapon as well.
Yeah, the size of that, they're almost a comically large weapon.
That's Mog.
That is a comically large weapon.
I think this is fine. This is like a, I like the crown, to be fair.
Yeah.
I feel like this is, this is in Catholics, what a, what a, I don't know what priest Mog looks like.
Gray, some whites, a little purple here and there. I think it's a 7.9.
7.9? Yeah, I think it's a solid.
I think it's a very good mug. Alright. I feel like it's like average
pre-smonger. I would guess like a 6 probably.
The staff is nice. Heddles is very...
Heddles is very stingy with the ratings, yeah. I just give fair ratings.
I feel like my core commentators don't start at...
Maybe an 8.6. Anyways, here's...
Mave Shock.
Milk, Kul Terran.
That is a beefy mug.
Looking like Kalamazoo after some late night Taco Bell.
That's right.
5-3 with Logo Sockbuzz were locked in.
Locked in.
An enhancement shaman.
This looks sick.
Those shoulders are so cool as well.
Yeah. Where they from?
I think those are last tier.
Yeah.
I think they were maybe the Amidus L tier shoulders.
I think this is maybe pvp coloration of them though.
I would get this like a 9? I really like it.
8-5! I like the axe, very cool.
Yeah, this is an enhancement artifact weapon skin.
Oh, 8-5.
Doomhammer on the one hand and then it gives you a kind of elementally one in the off hand.
It is very good. I love the beard color and stuff. Really fits with it.
I think the Alliance Tabard too.
Yeah, I think this is going to be my first 10 for non-meme reasons.
Did you only give mogs 10?
Yeah, like I've given a lot of 10s for really funny names and funny mogs, but this one is just, I don't know, it's just all working for me.
Hold on, wait, wait, keep a maveshock on stream.
Hey, Yepes, can you come rate this mog for us real quick?
Give us your thoughts on this guy.
This male coltaren on the left side of your screen plays an enhancement shaman.
That looks beautiful.
There you go.
There you go. A beautiful from Yepes. Beautiful at 10.
I love it. I agree work
It's also a nice guy. He's Canadian. I love it. Giving it more than you're pretty sure.
Is our break timer been extended or has mine?
The break timer did get extended. I saw everybody was like standing in the hallway congregating just talking about something.
They're probably not even hotfix, I would venture against.
Yeah, it makes sense. Also, maybe waiting for Scott to finish his normal.
Dude, what is this hat that is on this camera?
That is Nyalotha Plate.
Oh, interesting.
Looks like my hair in the back. Look at that.
Mythic Nyalotha Plate.
Yeah, it does look like your hair a little bit.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
I would say yours is a little bit more like lovecraftian horror than that though.
I do it.
I aim to please.
Yeah.
There we go.
All right.
I think this is good.
I think this is part of the love set that came out here.
Yeah.
The trading post set.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Makes sense.
Turn a little fire there, Teddles.
All right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think this is an A2.
What are you shaking head at, Teddles?
I don't know.
Pointing out there obvious.
You might have missed it.
There's no tail in this one though.
to say that I can hurt the rating here I'll give us like a six and a half I
think it's pretty good long did yeah sorry Kiran
alright I like that yeah I'm gonna eat now we're eight point two what is that
picture of maybe oh oh that was a pretty much a donation that will cut his hair
last year wow I'm like a no one's is was for cherry though it's all hard to
cause yeah he's a he's regrown all of it for this year it was a nice long
wait between last year and this year so true it's a good one like 10 months maybe
there's another mug I knew a new baneu ten oh a serve hunter you're the spear
baby what's that weapon sure I think that's the dreadflame enchant on it
hmm okay I like three I think hunter monsters are always so ugly but I
actually don't something about male just always ends up looking so bad this
one feels they're not allowed to helmet it again as well for the male
Not the plate version. This one feels very like rogue or demon hunter-y. It does doesn't it? Yeah, I actually I like this one though
I'm ready to give the ten for a noob a noob. I think that's good. I was thinking yeah
I was thinking like eight and a half or nine. I like that one. That's a good one for sure
I think that was the last one we had thank you guys so much for super. Hey look the break time is over as well
Yeah, right on right on time. Let's see that. All right. Is there any com changes at this point yet? Or are we still
So we haven't even had a hotfix, I don't believe it.
Swapped in, Scott.
Maybe we could, do we have Scott?
Maybe we can see if he's still in his normal or what character he's even on.
Chance.
What, what are you guys predicting that he's going to play?
Like our general consensus is what?
Pike's Guardian drew it?
It's probably Guardian drew it.
Yeah.
Can you swap?
I don't know.
Again, I actually do think From Alley would be sick for this fight.
I don't know if they've got it ready, but that would be my, uh, if I could have anything
I wanted and it was all equally geared, I would swap in a prop alley right now.
And there's a bit of a, there's a couple of specs that you could take out, you could
take out.
If you're bringing the guard injury, you could also always take out the moonkin.
I think one of the warriors is on the table.
Yeah.
I think Rhett Paladin is on the table.
Certainly.
Rhett knows kind of threw up the idea of maybe the enhancement shaman.
I do think that the enhancement shaman is definitely on the, one of the options
because it is one of the least utilities that you're cutting.
Yeah.
It's a question of how much you need to damage the utility. It looks like Scott is now in the raid
As the guardian drew it not swapped in for anybody just yet, but he's been invited to the raid group
He's in group five group five. It has to be a druid for druid swap. I don't know
I mean, I guess you could fully change you could change comp a good bit to still accommodate that
Double druid effect, but yeah, I don't know what to take out of them rep out in a word. Both seem better than playing
So the reason I drew the party and drew it the reason you keep the moonkin here
Moon can, yeah. Moon can not bat. You also need some amount of range to be able to, you know, have them. It's Daesir. Have them paired up with one of the, one another.
He's rotating Healer out, you're okay. But you are correct, yeah. Yeah, he's got those parings in the back, right? On the bench. He'll be back.
Yeah, Daesir has been in and out of this raid many a time before I'm sure we will see him in on Queen Ancer at least once.
They call Malarkas the closer. I feel like Daesir's been the closer this year.
Yeah, he's been he's uh for both Kaivesa and Ovenaxe they started with Adam they brought him in they killed the boss
This time around they started without him. They brought him in the boss. It mysteriously lost 13% of its health on like the next bowl
I don't know
Seems like he's kind of built different, but they want to make sure they don't overuse that buff
Wait rivet. Oh, we're gonna start now as well. Yes. Hold on. Okay. Hang on. What urgency moon can removal
what's coming. Second world lock is back in. Okay that makes sense because now we
oh never mind world lock is back out pause champ but it doesn't make sense because you
now no longer are bringing a moonkin for their buff right. You can swap them for
another range that's maybe slightly better and you're still you're still
happy on the buff side of things maybe you're looking at that double gateway
strategy as well that was being discussed earlier and you're like you know what
this is no low cost for us to do. Yeah it could be it's a handful of classes
that had decent damage profiles here. You could see a third arcane mage as well.
We want to have a good buying choice, but yeah, I mean we already have double and
half double frost, double warrior.
We have an ally mental as well. I wouldn't hate another arcane mage, but
ally was really good at various points on this boss.
Yeah, I could see that. During testing it was like by far the best
back in the game, but they changed a lot of the damage profile bit. Now they're playing like a lightning build as opposed to the
meatball build, so it's a little bit different.
Yes, there are time meatballs, nice.
Yes, meatballs.
I could see that being a thing though. Yeah, I mean like a lot of the damage is based around isn't like chain lightning lightning bolt
Base they believe me it pretty good just probably passive damage on scarabs as well
Which is also a bit of frosty. Hey, Nisha. Yeah a bit, but you'd farm some extra a lot of burst potentially
Okay, that's right. Splat is in though. Okay, cool
All right, make sense again. I think that you don't need to mark the well for the balancer anymore
It was fine. It wasn't like they're racing ever but the warlock you get extra use out of another gateway
The warlock damage is fairly solid. You can see
PhD on the eighth place on the meters there, so
It's pretty valuable
Yeah, this fight you would think would be really good if we're a deshra lock, right?
You've got two targets sometimes they're far away from each other
Sometimes there's a damage up on one of them that screams like okay
Cast havoc on one of me and then send 30 cast bolts into the dome, right?
Yeah, we're shadow burns. Yeah, I could have some or this was gonna be an F fight whenever
F was tested for the most of beta
Yeah, we saw a lot of, I mean, there were, I think Echo were maybe still playing half as well on this, so.
Definitely an option. It feels like either of those two definitely work well for this style of damage.
Which is a lot more demanding, maintaining multiple dots of bosses, running away and such, versus just single targeting a boss down, including everyone once in a while.
Alright, Dastro, both are solid, yeah. I think Splat was playing half earlier actually, and TG was on Dastro, so.
Maybe they still will be.
Yeah, I'm curious to see what they're both, and they're choosing here, Speck and Build-wise, but...
TG's definitely seem to have a preference towards destruction this year whenever the option is available.
Yeah, it's quite mobile, which this fight requires a lot of mobility.
Affliction is pretty mobile as well, but I do think that both specs are very close on this fight.
Yeah.
You often don't see Liquid and Echo playing the same of one class, but different specs.
But I think they're close enough where you actually can on this fight.
Even on Kaivesi, you saw Aflox being played from Echo as well, I believe in their kill.
They played two at the start.
I believe one was in the kill.
Does Warlock exceed your expectations coming into this race here?
Dastro has, but Warlock in general, no.
I think Dastro's a little...
Dastro's a little better than what I thought it would be.
But this fight is very mobile.
A lot of movement on basically every fight, which Dastro is...
Unfortunately the best at, which is surprising, but that's just a class design thing.
Okay, so looks like the hot picks are in for Mythic Soakin' Court.
Okay.
And if we take a look at Wowhead, we can see right here.
Mythic Soakin' Court, hot picks is again.
No more one tanking in parenthesis for sure Zs and so basically trying to explain exactly what we're seeing here with the piercing strike being changed
Yeah, so the damage has been increased by 150% up to 23 million now 23 million sounds like a lot more health than a player has
But know that this is physical damage, which is our specialty as tanks
We are very good at dealing with physical damage. The duration has been nerfed on piercing strike
to 36 seconds from 60 which means you no longer are going to ever take multiple
stacks of it I don't think but it increases the damage taken from the
ability by 1000% so if you ever take a hit with the debuff already now you're
taking it 230 million physical damage which even a brewmaster monk can't
stagger that so it is gonna it's gonna one shot anybody who's taking it well
they already have a debuff and the base damage being 23 million physical
means we're talking heavy defensive for a non-tank to survive it.
It's maybe still possible to one tank this encounter with enough frosty case rotating
Defensives or externals on the taunts, but I don't think it's really feasible anymore
I don't think it's the way they're supposed to be done
And apparently there was also a boss health push fixed with the or fixed push with this as well of
5% boss HP. It's not in these notes, but yeah as well. By the way, there's another change on Wildhead if you look like 20 minutes ago
They also changed
Mage, you remember yesterday we were going in pre-stacking our spellfire spheres?
That's been hotfaked now to just automatically always work like that
So you don't have to ever go to Dornagal to get your spellfire spheres
They generate passively before the fight and they'll stack up to five instead of three if you have the talent
They can't have five instead of three. I swear they can't keep getting away with it. This is just a good quality of life change
It definitely is. Yeah, this is really nice for the mages. How about mage? No, it certainly is. Mage Hater
But this is QOL. I can joke a little bit here and there, but no it certainly is. Most importantly as well
Like I'm glad that it just works consistently whether or not you go to Dornigal before a pole now
It's the same benefit which is nice whether they either made it always three always five always zero on pole at least
It's always something and there's not a better for uh going and hitting a training dummy. I always hate it
What there is good news though? I think that it's pretty it looks like this hotfix is a made the boss impossible here now
Yeah, here we go. That's that pretty fast. I'm just snowball white big at 97 percent this time. Mm-hmm. I know boss
the boss? Ah, it's possible.
That's blizzard gone too far this time.
So the boss's previous health pool was 13.11 billion.
And I'm trying to see if it was nerfed here.
It looked like it might have been.
The boss is sitting at about 12.5 million there,
pretty close to pull.
But if so, that would look like
about a 5% nerfed for take.
But we can see when they respawn here momentarily,
and somebody targets the boss.
It would be a little bit more than 5% wouldn't it?
They pulled the boss a little bit.
It was hard to see.
Okay.
I'm guessing you're probably going to see
Billion here give or take roughly.
Target the boss.
Okay.
Let's see, yeah.
Maybe we can swap around some UIs until we find somebody who's targeting the boss or
who has the boss's health visible.
I think Teguichi would be doing that, possibly.
At least have the name plates with health threshold on them.
Yeah, but he's aiming his camera bad.
Oh, no.
Okay, we'll see it on pull.
We'll see it on pull.
Target the boss.
We'll see it on pull for sure.
There it is.
12.45.
Okay.
Might be 6.5.
He said it was 13.1.
Yeah, might be like a 6.5% nerf he ever takes.
You can run the math though.
We're good at it.
Sounds like 5% to me.
And then we get a kill of a tank, yeah.
So indeed a 5 to 6% health nerf coming in
alongside that one tank strat being nullified.
All right, that is very interesting.
And I think it's nice as well.
I liked the one tankings.
I like it when the bosses are designed in a way
that incentivizes you to have two tanks
and one tanking requires you to do something creative
and difficult.
I don't like it when it's just like,
oh yeah, this tank ability doesn't kill a DPS player
so we can just one tank.
Yeah, so yeah it is a 5% nerf after you know if they can't get the count down.
Yeah, after some consideration, yeah.
Yeah, on an early level laptop.
So why would you nerf the fight if you were...
Well, it depends.
So you don't have to do a health nerf given that nobody is this low on the boss.
Sure.
If you're gonna remove the one tanking potential, you are taking away maybe 4% of the rates damage or so
when you've just gotten to swap a DPS player into a tank.
So it sort of makes sense to do a compensation nerf to the boss' health
If your numbers are already saying like,
oh, they're already going to be close to enrage,
of course, none of our top three guilds
are even anywhere close to enrage just yet.
So if they felt confident, they could avoid doing that nerf.
But I think that it makes sense to deliver the nerf as well,
given how tight the enrage already looks like it's
going to be.
Yo, Kalamazik, can you respond to that whisper?
Somebody's deeming you, I think, on.
Where?
In game.
Actually, I have zero idea what you're referring to.
We're talking about.
Somebody's whispering you, man.
In game.
Yes, somebody deemed you in game.
I'm not even... I'm... What?!
Yeah, did you not hear it?
I'm not even logged in!
Yeah.
No, didn't hear it.
I have selective hearing. Basically, when you talk or if that person DMs me, I don't hear it at all.
So, sorry.
Ha ha ha ha!
That's why I'm a little lost here.
Your dad got on you for that whenever you're younger.
Ha ha ha! Yeah, basically.
Ha ha ha ha!
Hmm.
Alright, well...
Getting ready here after two attempts post-hot fix.
Five.
We'll see whether they're able to actually get deeper into the fight again.
I think it's one of those spots where they haven't been able to really get consistently through that intermission,
that first intermission that we're seeing, getting into the phase two.
And then the times that they are getting through that first intermission, getting those five dispells onto the boss has become a bit tricky.
Yeah, so those are kind of the two things that will be gamers down again already and at this start here.
Anytime you see two people dead,
The brain jumps to a collision being the reason.
Yeah, I wonder if changed positioning a bit here on these planes.
I really depth on it, like so on.
This might be Cope, but I suspect it's probably has something to do with breath of yonzing across the plane.
Could be, although I saw the breath of yonze, oh yeah, I guess that could well be it.
Yeah, I saw the breath of yonze go off, but maybe it's one of those things.
We keep hitting both of the bosses with it at the beginning, and so that's...
It could be a bit tricky to be able to hit them properly.
I could definitely, yeah, see that being a problem if they don't have a sort of corridor where it's like,
Okay, you can't stand here. You can't stand here. We've got our evoker flying through. Yeah
All good though. These are the sorts of things that are definitely worth figuring out
As a note update gets pushed
So we're still comfortable with our overall predictions for this boss saying whatever I don't know what you guys said
I think I'm 215. I'm not the post somewhere in that range. Yeah, I think maybe you would like to be a bit higher
Remember though that there only is another
another, what, like six hours of pulling today
and then we're coming back with a second reset worth of gear?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Is this 3 p.m. local time?
It does not make sense to stay up late on this boss
unless you are close to a kill.
Is there a price tomorrow?
There is a maintenance tomorrow, yeah.
I think it's an hour maintenance.
I could be wrong.
It's three for us, so I think it's okay.
10 a.m. was when they scheduled the maintenance end.
Oh, okay.
So you could stay up later
because you aren't gonna wake up till then anyway.
So the time is the maintenance?
Yeah, the reset's at eight here?
Yeah, I think so.
So I don't know I mean you could you could step a little bit later
But the thing is like
If you can you do want to go and finish off any chores that anybody needs to do and right unless you are close to a kill
Unless you think you can kill it tonight killing it tonight would be big right getting an extra resets worth of
Extra boxes from this boss
Extra spy masters webs that could potentially drop from this boss dying as well like give me some mythic spy masters
Well, I'd be pretty happy about that
Table will be very very big plus talking about it right some people might not have been named for bosses
Yeah, exactly like THC for instance sitting on five bosses killed
Which would be very good to upgrade to six right about 50% a lot on this boss that make up in the next six hours give or take
But yeah, we will see greatest. I'm starting around 9 30 a.m. Which I think that any around 11 30
So yeah about six and a half to seven hours give or take
Remaining in the night, but yeah, who's to say they might not break early for chores their last little bit 10s give or take
Just go from there. Yeah, again the 10s are not actually all that good
The kind of players that they're the best on are the people who haven't been in for a lot of bosses
But those people have already had time to do it because they weren't in for a lot of bosses
So they could already be doing their 10s during that time you get your final 10 done
I did yeah, well, I can do four more for my full vault tens, but I don't think it's gonna happen
You got a lock in yeah time to win. You know what key you hit a trail?
That is some keys. I might have to get dinner after this shit. I will call him on broadcast right now
I do have the next shift, but I have a whole night's free, which might involve me in my bed. It might involve me playing some WoW.
I don't know, we'll see, you know.
There's the vibes that are on. Vibe check.
Yeah, pop an M, go all night.
Yeah, we're known to stay up a little bit late here, so that's just the play.
Yeah, so right those last night, I was talking to THC on the trail, he walked over to the bridge and cracked a white monster at 12.05am, right past midnight.
Me?
Yeah, you do.
Yeah, you do.
It doesn't sound like me.
It goes me as if it's just not him.
The old midnight monster.
How many monsters do you consume a day here, Travis?
A few, they're good.
They're yummy.
The players have a ban on monsters past 2PM.
Yeah, Travis is trying to avoid the caffeine.
Yes.
Luckily, I am not a subject of Max's tyrannical edict,
so I can do what I want.
I'm a free American.
Nobody can tell me what to do.
Drinking a monster whenever I want is my birthright.
to get you have
it will take this is a
he's also talk about this word he that's right i would
you know they'll
he always partake some i mean that was a bill
with loss
it didn't mean it was possible to the next rich world first i have great news
that's right
look at anybody ever hands me a phone with a food delivery app order going on
and i will always add something to it it's very smart see
it's almost like a progression mindset
it's opportunistic eating you know right you're gonna be right yeah
Except here you do kind of know when your next meal is going to be.
We have three of them per day.
Yes.
Richard, thanks.
Pizza night.
Oh, very exciting.
Stay full.
Pizza.
Stay full.
Stay hungry.
See, that's the thing.
I have the superpower of being full and hungry at the same time.
Yes.
I think you do as well, Kalamazzi.
I'm acquired the talent.
That's right.
We're bulking.
You've been karma-bulking at this point.
More.
Dude, this is so funny because I just, like, knowing them both off-broadcast
It's just so true
All right, so we got a few deaths you're going into the second phase
But so far it looks like they've managed to land
That the spell it's on Scott. That's not great. No, can you get it?
Get him under the boss. Oh the cast four seconds. Okay
It just so it jumped the Scott again after he's a spell there
It might have been his to fail someone else right after jump back to have time to get out
Like definitely wasn't right under the middle of that thing, but it shouldn't normally go on a tank
I think anytime that does go on a tank that is not good
Mm-hmm. Yeah, they're doing they're keeping the other wasp very very close to the center for max cleave
Right, which you should do on mid like you on medic on lower difficult
Is you can just run the the scarab away from the middle and be like, okay
Look only go to the middle if you're one of the dispelled targets on mid thing
You can't afford that you need to keep the bosses in range you be getting hit by cleave
Yeah, every little bit of DPS is alright. That's right. That is not negotiable for sure
Looks like a week or update has been pushed to our players
They will be reloading their UIs now. This is one of the closest races I've seen in the hot minute
Yeah, I felt actually I feel like last last is real close
Yeah, last year was also really close, but I feel like some more often than not there's kind of
Like one of the guilds that's you know breaking away please now
It's yeah, you would you could argue that it's a three horse race this time
I think you can at this point. Yeah, I mean, I think it depends on what happens with this boss dying for both echo and method more
More so seeing where method kills his boss. They've been pretty close to echo
You know about a couple hours behind both on Brute twister and Tiveza
So method was a decent amount behind on Brute twister, but then they caught up a lot on nexus princess
That's right. Yeah, I mean they've been getting better and better every single tier and we're at a point where I mean look back at last
Right for the race with fire I having side-by-side simultaneous bowls
Imagine that on a three-gilled spread that would be crazy incredible. Okay, I think it's unlikely that that would be absolutely insane
Yeah, yeah a huge variable here as well as is this boss killable in the first reset for echo and method
They are now what in bed for the yeah, they're gonna be in bed now
So they're gonna be waking up and having one more full day on this boss
Whereas us watching liquor right now have about a half a day left on this boss. I
I don't think it will die in the half-day.
I don't think it will die in the full day with week one gear either, but it'll maybe
get close.
And if it does, that would be a large gear advantage that they'd be able to pick up
on the first reset.
It makes things very interesting, because liquid has to reclear tomorrow.
There's no discussion of retention, no effort at all.
No shot you can reclear now.
You reclear here while Method and Echo work on strats for this boss, which you can
then get to, and if need be, implement in your own strategy with a higher gear level.
But thankfully, I don't think that will come into play a whole lot like for Rake third
time.
This Rake is probably going to play until next weekend, I would venture, yes.
I think you're probably right.
I think that at the earliest, we're probably done by Friday or something like that.
Yeah.
I mean, okay, this could die on Tuesday after the re-clear, but I think it probably dies
for Liquid on Wednesday with the re-clear, and then we've got...
Oh, this fight.
Yeah, this boss.
And then Queen Answer X starts and it's a question of how long that's going to
take.
Yeah, it depends on the changes that come into Brew Twister and Kaibaza as well.
They haven't been announced yet.
with the next couple hours we'll probably get some.
If there are, I mean, we don't know for sure if there will be.
So we kind of expect there to be hotfix, or not hotfix, but just like changes on the reset
to the Brute Twister and Nexus Princess just because of what it looks like for the landscape
of all other mythic guilds who are involved here. If they don't actually change that fight,
that's going to be a brutal re-clear. Well, I don't think it'll be that,
like, I think that the bosses, both Kiveza and Brute Twister, get dramatically
nerfed by gear. How was tendril re-clear last year?
Tendril was fast. They killed it really fast.
Yeah, like it used to be true that you kind of swept the re-clear, but these days they've
gotten really good at doing the re-clear at the level that you need to because, I don't
know, that you kind of know that it's important to do it and so you make sure you're still
locked in for those bosses.
Yeah, I think even SLG and re-clear was like a problem.
SLG and re-clear was really fast. I was worried about it, but that was like a 30 minute
Yeah, that was and I think that with an extra resets worth of gear like you know
Brutrister gear helps a lot because it kills the ads faster and also the
Enrage check is gone so that's gonna be way easier with gear. Nexus Princess is
a little bit difficult because there you're losing your Ventus right? There's
no way you're venting Nexus Princess on week two. Right. So you're down 1,900
verse but you're up more than that in gear so it is still net benefit on the
weekly reset it's gonna be perfect pull I think you can have a player dead for a
little bit I think so it's gonna be easier for players to not die to say
just not pressing that yeah so raw helping please also a very relevant
let's do one tanking it which is yeah and last day again I hope to see changes
that make that fight more reasonable for guilds that are reaching it now and
also for to remove the one tanking incentive yes I if that doesn't happen
which maybe it won't right we don't know for sure that I hope the blizzard will
change both those bosses on this reset but every hour that we don't see bats
and it's announcing that it does become less likely so one DPS does about
somewhere between six to eight percent of a boss's HP in a raid right I think
he's also doing like two or three percent so yeah the difference is maybe four
But as for the DPS as well, we're probably going to be getting about 3% damage across the entire raid, maybe a little bit more, but we're losing advance first.
Yeah, losing advance is about 2.4% or so.
It'll still be a close check, but those 0.5% pulls that we had last week...
Those will never happen again.
Yeah, you'll be basically killing the ones.
I think you'll even be able to get over the line with like a 1.5% wipe.
I think that if this is a damage difference, we'll be able to beat that out as well.
Sure.
Yeah. It'd be interesting though. Hopefully a fast three clear either way.
I would venture to get these boss last until Wednesday night at the earliest.
That's somewhere Wednesday evening likely as long as...
I don't think this boss says Wednesday. I think it could, yeah. I think so.
I think that's Wednesday, Thursday, Friday for Queen Andrew at Prague. It dies somewhere in the world on Saturday.
That's my guess. I think it's feasible.
Depending on tuning, obviously. Yeah, I think Queen Andrew is a huge question mark.
know what that boss looks like in the later phases on mythic we don't even know
what it looks like in phase one looks again fanny I see yeah I haven't I'll
admit we naturally mechanically I haven't looked at a whole lot
yeah so there's not a lot known from the dungeon yeah from the dungeon it was
not a lot none the difference is that there should be five froths as opposed
to the two froths that's the one hand you have to space them out with one
second in between oh okay that's interesting so those are the only
two things that are like really known about the boss but yeah there are mythic changes typically
for end bosses that aren't placed in the dungeon journal so could you be a entire phase yeah there
could be a mythic phase there could be a secret mythic boss at random fungion spawning yeah exactly
i think if neither of those are especially likely with the way that the boss is designed it feels
like a pretty complete encounter that isn't there's not really i think a lot of room before
especially the way the last phase there's space snide but jailer felt like that as well and
and then there was the last phase even after P3 that denied the whole room.
You could maybe add a mythic only platform or something like that.
Yeah, it could be.
I feel like I feel pretty similar to Dreadnest.
It seems like a complete fight whenever you're doing a normal heroic that you don't have to go.
It was very exciting.
Yeah, it reminds me of Sarkarath in that way where it's like,
okay, these phases all make sense and are complete
and there's enough in them that they can just make it mythic with them.
Ancerok actually thinks he's a pretty good boss.
Weird.
Yeah, I'd like to be an Ancerok.
I think it's really cool.
Yeah, I think it'd be very good.
Even on Heroic as well, you can feel how the end of Heroic mechanical overlaps are very promising.
And I think I may think you're going to have to deal with those and them some.
I think it took the good parts of Razaketh and kind of deleted the bad ones in terms of sure hazing of the fight itself.
You know, it has like a really interesting core mechanic where Razaketh had those winds that were pushing people back.
Ancerek has this ring that you have to jump over and you have to have people evenly split into the ring.
And then there's, you know, various miscellaneous mechanics.
The roots massive a we've always a little bit of fun. Yeah, you get to jump a platform to platform and that was a fan of tindal roots
I'm not a fan of them. I think that's a good route. Okay pretty poor poorly designed mechanic
Just generally speaking, but I think that the jumping for platform to platform
Yeah, I love actually on answer record didn't own razz. I am
Surprised by how much fun I have during that second phase of answer
I would have from the dungeon. I would have been like, okay. This is a filler phase
This is you know the bad things like you're so fun. Yeah does and
And it's not got that kind of like annoying ad feel to it.
The ads all feel, I don't know, fun to kill.
It's very hard to describe why.
Yeah, and then Phase 3's a mix of basically like almost
Xymox portals with an ad-hectic ag cleave, some CC needed,
spread cleave, and it's working like it's almost a soft enrage
on the boss. It's really fun. Phase 3, I think the fight's
arguably harder than the first few boss in the mythic that was well on her own.
Certainly. Yeah.
I mean, in terms of pull counts for Liquid it probably is.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
And I think for most bot, I suspect most guilds will have wiped a lot more on Anciarch Heroic,
probably than the first four mythic combined even, right?
P1 of Anciarch is harder than pretty much all of those bosses.
Yeah, which the numbers check is a little bit, you know, less severe potentially, but
P3 check on Anciarch is like really easy.
Yeah, exactly. Like once you get to P3, bosses at like half health or less, you know that you have the damage by quite a bit.
That is I guess a little bit different than the first few on mythic. You know
We need we need to send off the ground effect on this platform. That's right
We need to be slipping and sliding maybe that's the mythic change the mouse bug will accompany that with the constant spin
Oh, yeah, the con spinning yeah, making my own web in the floor perfect. There we go
That was such a weird boss by the way. Yeah, it was
I'm using gates in that boss. I I didn't mind that boss. I think sonar gets a bad rep
It does yeah, I think that the it was much worse than sonar. I agree with that
I agree with that. I just don't think that either they were like a great
Okay, well what was great? It's crazy because this boss a queen interact rather is kind of just senor plus Daffy if you think about it
You're chasing spider upwards
There are ads that you kill and then they explode and knock you onto platforms true
It's basically just those two bosses staple together and yet it's good. Hmm. I think it's pretty funny
I just those were the two bosses that you equated it
I mean, if you think about it, that's where a lot of these mechanics are lifted from.
Do you get to that DM, man?
That's like a phone line off something. It's not even...
No, it's a whispery thing.
It's a bean at DM, yeah.
Oh!
Telebosy, please respond.
Let me see. Let me pull this up here.
I'm talking about you and your tail, actually, so I...
Oh, yeah.
Okay, relax.
It was shaved off at first, man.
Oh, what you're saying? Okay, man.
You don't judge your titles, or we love you all the same.
What do you think they're talking about?
Probably positioning for dispells or something?
Probably, yeah.
The next choke point in a sense has been, for a while it's been that pentadispel, the
five, essentially at once.
They were massing it for a while, but they've gone to individual spells, which is a little
safer.
Then they've gotten through that double pentadispel, I think once or twice now.
It's likely the grip in which you have to hold three webs through the boss overlapping
with the burrow from the beetle they're making it exceptionally hard positioning wise. That's probably
what they're looking at because they've been getting a little more consistent even with this
comps about coming in about half an hour. They're shifting towards Scott playing that
Guardian route again, bringing the other Warlock in and also employing that double gateway
strat again from what we saw earlier. Going back and forth between the two.
Yeah, also had a new best pull maybe an hour and a half ago at this point.
Yeah, where they everything just kind of lined up super well. They had about 18 people alive
for a really long period of time. They got both of their five dispels off, they did a kind of
panic-blasting I guess for lack of a better term. Yeah during the shield phase right,
like I mentioned earlier, this fight's pacing. I wouldn't say that it feels off to me but it
almost does feel a bit off compared to what we saw on PTR. We were expecting like a 10 draw kind
of fight where it was just rapid by a quick succession, back and forth, back and forth,
but when you make those checkpoints like the dispel you've got some downtime,
a bit of damage in the boss, which comes with the stun on the boss, but then there's like a checkpoint,
a do this heart mechanic, some downtime. Do this, some downtime. You can progress a good bit through
that by making it through one of the checkpoints, but I think the biggest thing we talked about
already is going to be that damage. You're hitting the 7-minute mark roughly at 50% health remaining
on the boss, which is probably about two and a half minutes from that rage, but we don't
We don't really know fully.
It's not a 15 minute fight, but that way.
It certainly is not a 15 minute fight.
I do agree with you, the Kalamazoo,
that it does feel like there are moments in this fight
where you can breathe, which is very different than Tindral.
Tindral felt like you could not ever pause and catch
your breath by anything.
Three second seat soaks were just.
It was not even just the three.
That was a hard mechanic.
But when it was done, then the next thing was happening.
And then the next thing was happening.
And then the next two things were happening simultaneously.
And then you get the seat soaks again.
This fight is not like that. This fight, you know, you have some mechanical overlaps.
There's a few spots where a lot's going on, but then there's also a lot of spots where not too much is going on.
And it's like, oh, hey, I've got a moat that I need to soak in the next 15 seconds.
But besides that, there's not actually anything besides setting up for the mechanics that are coming in 20 seconds.
And there's time for me to just do my rotation, you know, relax a little bit, take a bit of a breath.
And that is a very different vibe than Kaipessa and Tindall had.
Those bosses were just like the entire time.
I'm in danger dodge dodge die
Yeah, I caught as Atlas in the kitchen
I think mid Brew Twister prog and I heard him saying he just wants a break from the mechanical barrage
What brew twister is and that wasn't he wasn't even in Kybeza like the last two bosses have been incredibly demanding for
Mid tier boss. He was uh, he was kind of sad to not be on Nexus princess
He was like I feel like I'm just helpless right now. I mean, you know, you play DK you're good in certain spots
Oh, at least you're being stacked this tier. What are you complaining about? I'm right in the bench the whole time
You're right in the bench.
Well, we've got two warlocks.
We're gonna split playtime, right?
You know?
No, you don't.
That's true.
You're the big doll.
A start dominance, yeah.
Exactly.
That's the reason I'm a bird twister.
Muffins is not.
Exactly.
Exactly.
I've been saying that.
Well, thank you, Teddles.
That's the four I appreciate.
That makes one person.
Exactly.
I can get you back.
Thank you, Teddles.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
There's only some stuff that they can necessarily do here.
That's that different.
they're just like trying to make sure that individual players are staying alive at
certain points and they're trying to maximize their movement around the fight.
Right. It's not something that's gonna just happen immediately and they have to
be able to kind of talk it through. It's this is one of the cool parts of mythic
raiding just in general. Yeah. Because you have 20 players in your raid then
there's so many moving parts and there's so many different mechanics that
are coming at you fast. You know you have to you have to be able to
prog each individual person kind of learning the boss in that way. Yeah.
A lot of players need to see the mechanical overlaps to get the actual, okay, this clicks with me, now I know how to handle this.
At the same time, being in a world-first setting, seeing how these guilds approach these fights, how they break it down mechanically, how they discuss things, and how they attack them is really interesting.
It's much...
Guilds in the top 5 or 10 here, they've all been in spots against before or close to it where they're progging world-first bosses, but...
There's a large difference between being the first, second, third guild to get here, and progging the fight and create strats, and...
versus emulating those strats being World 4, 5, and 6, right?
Yeah, I mean, there are kills like Fast Shark Yes, where every few bosses, they will reach a boss
and be like, okay, we have better movement. We have some cool way of doing this that we do better.
But you don't have to, your starting point can be okay. We know what this looks like. We know what Liquid did.
We know what Echo did. We maybe have our own idea from testing, but we get to use the best of those three options
rather than Liquid reaching this boss first,
just have their own ideas and then their own trial and error to go off of.
It's a lot more intense to try and figure that out.
It's an experience that you kind of can't practice at those lower ranking guilds.
It's almost impossible to learn that skill without doing it.
That's one of the kind of great barriers to entry,
as it looks like we've had maybe a moat go unsoked here,
killing off half the raid, the rest of the raid will join soon after.
Yeah, we've seen it multiple times where one guild may have their own strategy
But they realize one guild's doing it differently right they'll adapt that approach like
You know strategy wise a lot of these guilds have been doing similar strats, but I think the opposition wise
That's when that that's one of the things have been the most different between all the guilds
That's the thing that I'm comp has varied so much this year. We talked about method playing a shadow priest in this fight
I believe they played one on
Kind of as it as well the echo is playing two warlocks for a while. I think it's a good thing. Oh
Yes, he was in something here's in a split
Possibly I mean there could be a handful of sick run next let the Chinese flip war weeks over
Yeah, sick runs are good. Yeah, the normal sick runs are good champion track sick run thing upgrade that thing to
Yeah, it's good. Yeah, honestly like
Champion track gear is
Basically the same as your attract here this tier until you run out of good uses of your gilded crests on other pieces
Which if you're getting some myth track pieces if you're making some crafted pieces with enchanced guild at crest we were at least the next few weeks
I think people are like I've seen a lot of people who have better stats champion track gear in their bags
And just have a hero track piece on that hero four out of six equipped
It's like that's not better just put on the champion piece at champion eight out of eight
And it's the same item level for now and it's got better stats
Yeah, it's the same also it discounts crest on the yeah exactly
You can upgrade both of them to 6.19 for the same price.
You always like those, guy.
Until you're ready to spend those Gilded Crests,
it is better to keep that champion track piece on.
No issues if you're gated behind baller stones for whatever reason.
Yeah, if you're low on baller stones,
OK, you can only upgrade one of them.
But I'd argue you should upgrade that champion track piece
first, because it's better stats.
Right.
I'm just saying, I've seen a lot of those in bags.
I've seen a lot of people's bags,
and there's been some crimes committed, I'd say,
in terms of we've got some cryptverse stuff equipped
by people that have a hasten mastery champ track
piece in their bags.
next week is going to be really interesting in terms of what people are crafting, what
animal are you crafting, are you crafting a gilder piece or a mid-trak piece?
I think you'll see a lot of jewelry crafted likely, at least a ring probably.
I think it's pretty good, yeah.
You have the rare neck from Sikron, you have the rare ring from Anstrac, right?
I think a lot of people are going to be crafting over top their Nerubian embellishment.
Well, so the thing is they already have, in a lot of cases, a 610 socketed BBBBs.
So crafting instead of 619, you know, non-PVP, non-socketed pieces is not a huge gain over
that.
I thought it was higher, I don't know, if you do the Enchanted Rune crest, yeah.
I don't know, you are right.
Yeah, the 610PVP year is definitely shaking things up a bit.
We didn't expect to be a thing this patch until the actual season dropping, so that
quest was available.
Yeah, they were gladiators, heraldries, they're kinda cool.
We also have seen some people not even using the gladiators, heraldry pieces
but just buying champ track gear and then putting a PBB socket into it.
Upgrading it when you got your Mplus 613 in that slot, which has been very clever.
These first raiders are doing such different stuff because for me,
I think my best bet is to just continue to craft myth track pieces
and get the best long-term benefit, but they are looking for what's the most immediate gain.
Additionally, they can use those myth crests, those gilded crests,
on the higher item level pieces because they're going to have more volume of those pieces.
It's interesting as well because the enchanted gilded crest crafts are sort of medium long term crafts,
but they're not actually this long long, right?
I'm not like, frogging mythic, right? So I'm not gonna have those...
Sure, you're popping open a vault every week with three myth track pieces in it though.
Absolutely, yep, and that's true. It's not gonna be like a permanent thing, but it's gonna be like a...
Yeah, it's like a week thing or something.
Exactly, right, whereas they are very much optimizing for reset number two.
Exactly.
Reset number two gear, almost for sure, with the off chance of it being a reset number three,
that they're up high right i hope so but we'll see i mean i'm definitely gonna have sure yeah
could be good yeah sure i don't know seppler to seppler to i mean the revenge of ensurek the
poll counts looking similar to seppler at this point i mean if you consider kind of it's like
and we've got two more bangers ahead of us here in socon court in queen angiorex so yeah we'll
see that was excited i looked i mean hard bosses are really cool to watch from a race
first perspective. There's only so much interesting stuff that you can actually watch on a Roshan
on from a first perspective, even if it is a 5 to 10 pull fight. So I think that being
able to watch the active prog, that's the reason that people watch the Racial first
and that's why it's cool because you're seeing the best guilds in the world doing
strats at 10 animals down where everybody else is even going to be able to do these
fights and having to spend hundreds of pulls progging it and min-maxing and optimizing
every single strategy that you could possibly do and that's what makes the race
world first so special. Yeah, no 100% I certainly agree. I love watching these
fights from this PLB. I wouldn't want to raid in this at this point but I love
watching how they approach these fights and how they break things down. We, I
talked about it a minute ago, we've even seen guilds like Echo and Liquid having
similar strats but a bit different but both killing it in unique ways. Going
back to Sarkarath, Liquid and Echo's end phase strat when they went down the
the final time, varied a lot on Sarkarath. Liquid ended up taking it down prior to the
bit of a better strat, but both guilds had their own approach to it and it's cool seeing
why the guilds think this is better.
The Liquid Sarkarath was the one that pretty much everybody used moving forward.
Yeah, it was.
That was definitely the Sarkarath strat.
Yeah, it definitely was. I think Ekko might have shifted their strat to that on second
or third.
There were some cool micro strategic differences on Sarkarath as well that would be very
based on like, oh, do you have an extra Paladin for an extra Bop tank when you
go down and these sorts of things so that was a cool part as well but honestly I
feel like Kaiveza has been the strat with the boss with the most
fundamentally different strategies we've seen since Sire Denathrius phase 2.
We have a pen in our twitch chat it says Bandrat knows if this goes to the
third reset. Whoa whoa why I think it would be great to go to the third
reset hold on. Is that a moderator or something? Are they mad? It makes
Expend it.
Expend it?
We're on the same team here.
You also get paid by the day.
We're all looking for the third reset.
Halimawzi just keeps biting the Taco Bell and he says show back up tomorrow if you want
to cast.
Show back up tomorrow, who we're talking about.
Let's go.
I'm just here for the Taco Bell.
I'm just feeding Teddles and he's showing up.
He's like a lost dog.
It's perfect.
Looks like we have made it into a second phase pull here.
That first intermission did claim a couple of lives.
We did have our battle res available for Riku there, looks like.
Lip gonna be down for a while, but we'll have a res in a minute and a half here.
So we will be able to...
Okay, boomie down, splat down, that may have been a collision.
Here comes the grippy inn, and the grippy inn here is actually sequential on Mythic,
so it grips in all the players with the mark of rage first, and then all the players
with the mark of paranoia second, but it's only like a second later, so you gotta
start running quick and you gotta start running away from where the other group's
getting gripped in.
Yep, and the next thing we're going to see here is that boss teleporting to the middle of the room,
trying to interrupt that big boom cast that's going to be doing momentarily here with those five dispellers, the dispell.
They're doing an individual rotation here, as long as they get all five off, we should need one more here in about two seconds so the boss is going to...
Yep, there we go, there's the stun, so in this part of the fight after that the spell comes out, the boss is taking extra damage here.
After this, there's going to be...
I believe there's another grip coming right next to this as well, followed by another penta dispell.
And after that
Already our second best bull ever I suspect that we're gonna be lusting the intermission as well with all those spikes coming out
Especially with players dead. Yeah, so with 17 players dead
We need to be able to see through that intermission, and I think that the lost
Being able to win just a little right this time it grips paranoia in first and rage and so
Actually, okay. Yeah, kind of cool. It's kind of cool. Yeah
Yeah, we're doing the E-LooSplit and THG both here and Renako.
Okay, it's alright. So we're doing some dispels here.
We're gonna try and do a few before the boss even teleports to the middle, which is really nice to do.
You can do this on Heroic as well, although you have more than enough time on Heroic.
Just do all three once it gets to the middle.
Gonna res here in five seconds as well on the FD mark.
So I think it's gonna be a...
What, the spells?
Probably a get THD up angle.
The spells are good.
We got through it. There we go.
Yeah, we made it through all the spells there.
Here's the res gonna land.
Is there gonna be one used here?
Ooh, hardy going down too.
It's got ARC available.
You want to rest here before the intermission begins.
Yeah, because there's Bumi.
Okay, Bumi for the rally, it looks like the call being made,
so THC is going to stay down for this fight.
It looks like I was thinking maybe you'd want a gateway replaced,
but it looks like they don't really worry about that too much
as we are now entering the intermission at number two.
So we've probably lost here, yeah.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, time warp activated.
Yep, burrow face starting up here as well.
The big thing here, these burrowers are much, much faster
and mythic than they are heroic.
Dodging these at the same time as breaking this shield
is a large task to fail.
Leasing the dude once before break this shield and right after that we're back into that grip from the first boss here
Which needs to also not be broken to stop the charge from the other boss itself
Which it makes it for a pretty nasty over that mechanically but first here breaking this shield is up most important
It's dropping these orbs we're turning around the boss in a counterclockwise motion
If shield looks to be just about broken I'll give a take shield broken
So phase three is gonna start off here
The bosses aren't going to do all that much for the next 15 seconds or so, and then we are going to get the first grip in,
and we need to preserve exactly three sets of webs. Any more than that, and we're taking extra unnecessary damage,
any less than that, and we won't be able to clothesline the boss here.
Yeah, and if you have those players die with the excess webs, then the...
Yeah, which is very likely to happen, because it's a very high damage spot here.
This is one of the biggest moments in the raid for Rewind as well.
Rewind is absurdly broken for living this overlap, because it starts with this swarm that's taking everybody super low,
And now we're getting gripped in by that web vortex.
This is when we can hit Rewind after this next big hit of dot damage on everybody.
And just insta-top them.
It actually looks like the health bars of the raid are looking already super stable.
I see two whips here. Do I see three?
I see three.
I see how we have three.
Damn.
This is gonna be perfect.
Hold on, we might be able to see Prague.
Oh, watch the burrow here, though.
So this is Prague in terms of being able to hit it.
No!
We had a player dive just before that one.
What would have gone through?
Tragedy.
Oh my gosh.
That snapped that web.
We were about to see Prague in terms of progressing the fight.
Not necessarily boss prog.
So that is once again, they've wiped at that point in the fight now twice.
The health on the boss is a little higher here, but they progressed very nicely up to that point.
They had 16 players alive for the majority of that, which is...
I mean, you're gonna have the 20 to be able to kill the boss, but to see prog, you know, that is sort of unlike Kyveza, right?
And Kyveza, as people started dying, it became very hard to live through those intermissions.
But here it seems like you can actually make a decent chunk of Prague as those first players are starting to bleed out here is a quick
Replay of the end there. Oh, so you're gonna break the wall. Yeah. Yeah, who went down here? I think it's okay here
In the top group, I believe means we've got two webs to three. Okay, and
Forward it's either Zevi dies or Zevi. Yeah, it goes down. Dang the web breaks. Oh
Rajadie
the project. Can we reflect on it again? That thing just looks like it's sliding forward.
It is. Power gliding. Yeah, it's just gliding. It's not running or anything. How is it moving
that fast is my question. Hell you know. It's got some roller skates on or something.
Maybe just pushing really hard off the other wall and then slicing over the roof. Oh, the
swimming pool. Yeah, exactly. Like how you kick off the wall at the swimming
pool. That's probably what was going on there. Wow. Oh man, that's quite the
over that ball. Well, yeah, that's good though, right? 52 point, I believe, yeah, to 1% there.
About the same Prague point we saw last time that we had not successfully rooted that boss there,
but we were very, very close at that point. Very close indeed. Yeah, coordinating those webs out of
that grip is a bit more challenging, like you mentioned. Getting to that point will indeed
sun that boss charge in the wall again, which will give a bit of a damage amp for the next
10 or so seconds, and then after that. So the next Prague point there, there's going to be
other pen that is about coming up after that right yes so if it's like heroic
which I am assuming what if it is it will be dispels and then a little bit of a
breather and then it will be a charge dispel combo with no breather all gas
that is going to be extremely sketchy yeah with mythic moat soaking being
required as well because six of your 20 players are going to be involved with
the webs five of your 20 players plus a bunch of your healers are going to
be involved with the dispells, not an awful lot of people left over to float and go pick
up stray moats. You're going to need some very precise movement there. I suspect it's
going to be the marks of rage, dealing with the webbing, the marks of paranoia, dealing
with the dispells, not 100% sure on that. That's going to be intense. Yeah, incredible,
incredibly intense. All right. So with that poll, I feel like we saw a lot of pretty
good prog during our casting block, but unfortunately for the viewers, that's going to be the
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You know, not I, of course though.
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And Hardy are you right?
Yeah, I think I was left
You and Scott are the other way around as well
Okay, so everyone on blue side here, this is correct?
Yeah
Okay, and red side
Sorry, what's that?
No, I was gonna say, even if you go out the same side in the first group, it's easy to break
time to break before the A.V. in the middle of the break.
Yes, you need to always go to the same side.
Yeah.
Okay, so left and right for red.
Yip, who's your partner?
Axel, and I'm right.
Okay, Impact, who's your partner?
Duke.
What side are you guys on?
Left.
Okay, Atlas, who are you with?
Bank, he's on the right.
Cool, Nick, who are you with?
There.
Who's right or left?
Left.
I'm right.
And Splat and T.T.?
left all right these I'm right on my life okay bucket all right so this is what
you guys do every single time you get gripped in you ever have to think about
it you're always doing the same thing if you get if you get webbed with someone
else fix it after but you don't have to react you're just always doing the same
way you can stand on your partner like everything except like that you can you
can't except for that one but on that one you can still fix it after so
exactly this one this is I'll just put this in the channel if you need to
look at it. Where are the blue orbs there on the P3 suck in the wrong spot just
because we people moved or were they supposed to be there?
Yeah, they were like on the right. It seemed like they were on the right a little bit.
Yeah, on the right. It should be like middle of the room.
They're towards the middle of the room. Okay, so this is ending. So blue or red would be here, yeah, blue should be in the
direct middle of the room well red was kind of off-center to the right as well
right maybe you move it oh you move okay so you guys get sucked in you guys
are all gonna go right which is great because you're keeping your webs there
they were right right that was my name is just about the boss the boss the boss
yeah the boss like if you're targeting a new barash a new barash moved like
half a yard like these such straight there a little sketchy but maybe it was
just like, uh, when I got pulled in.
Yeah. I mean, the second group is going to be like,
really hard boss because you guys are still at all my feet.
Max melee and spread that place.
Obviously don't lose DPS, but you can spread.
I made obviously not everyone is playing people.
Okay. And then yeah,
cause you want to have the ability to soak these,
but you're dealing with this guy's a we here.
And then you soak this and then because blue needs to like move in
here and give, uh,
or no, red, red's fine.
Blue's chilling, right?
I mean, yeah, this is the web bombs look great though.
That was a, that was really good.
And then you would just snap whatever web bombs remain.
Oh, we almost stopped it too.
Nice.
Should we go over what happens right after that real quick?
It'd take five seconds.
Okay, okay.
Okay, so.
Mark whistling, okay.
Well, mom, fucking.
Let's do bro here. Okay, same thing. Do a little damage. Again, red. You're going to be like on the other side of the boss here. I'm like the top side of it. And you're going, this guy's going to pour it away. And it's going to cast a frontal on you. So you want to have like a gateway down there, T H D to just get out of the frontal, probably towards the edge of the room.
room. Like if everything here is moved up, it would just be like this, right? And after
that is SUP2. This one you just snap your webs. So this would just be like a natty one. We
could do this. We're going to be moving the boss onto the port. So if she goes here,
we're going to drag her over the frontal. And then it's the double damage amp. So
you do a dispel set here after the SUP on the boss. You're going to finish the
spells in the middle. And you're going to get the second swarm. Oh wait, no. So this is actually just,
this is not the double damage. Boss ports in the middle, you just do, you just finish the
dispels, then it does another swarm. And the boss will port away. It's going to do a frontal,
but there's no, then there's the suck three, you keep the web, same thing as before, red
and blue, same orientation. And then we do the second dispels here, you're going to get
about halfway done with them. And then the boss is going to go far, it's going to port like
like this boss ports here than this guy is going to do her.
No, this boss is here.
You guys are hitting it.
You probably just hit it here.
You're ready for the middle.
You stop the boss, the damage amp in the middle.
You want the boss to actually stop, like,
right in the middle of the room because, like,
like two seconds into his damage amp,
she's going to port into the middle.
You're going to be, like, hitting the boss here.
She's going to be, I forget exactly where she is.
She's like, she ports for this or something,
but, like, you're hitting her.
He ports away.
Oh, yeah, that's what it is.
So you're hitting her as both of these groups, but then red you're going to try to like back
up a little bit with some of the web bombs if we have like range fares.
And then this guy does the charge, you stop him, this boss ports and then instantly ports
in the middle for dispels.
And then during the damage amp, you just start maximally hit range and you send the
dispels in on the girl and that's the double damage amp.
But that's like two damage amps from where we are, I imagine.
I don't want to, that was probably too much information.
I shouldn't have kept going.
Basically, we're just going to do dispels and BFK for a bit.
I think after.
Yep.
It's gonna be hype
Yeah, that's all I think I think as we get better at P2
I think working in some ad control on top of what we're doing in P2 would be good
I'm not super worried about it right now because P1's ad control was horrible and then we got better P1
And then P1's ad control was really easy
So I think once we're more familiar with P2 the ad control will come with it
The reminders for the people who are controlling them could be good. Are you popping? I wish you were running in a second
Yeah, it comes up like half way in and just press up a little bit and just get the uses
in the last phase.
If you hold it that long, you don't get the uses.
For the rack?
Yep.
I can try.
Okay.
Rotating now.
Good call.
Try to keep your own position consistent.
Don't, don't vary it up.
Yeah, like, orbs are in like six seconds, orbs are blowing up in five, there's two
in the back.
melee getting that that I don't get that something if something is going wrong with
that side like something has changed well the word mom was on like further back
with one of the three that are so yeah maybe that was just farther back so as far
as just different ball position yeah but yeah even if that happens they're like
for progression sake like just if you don't get two orbs as a melee you just
have to nonstop be getting one.
If you can't get one,
only one person in the entire group can get one
for that to work on that set, right?
You just have to...
I think the problem is like I'm on the far left
of our positioning and I'm generally taking
the far right one, so like there I,
I tried to run to like the back where I normally go,
which is the far right.
And there weren't enough there for me to get it
because the like web launchers fall behind
and then I could make it back.
It doesn't make sense for the far left person. So the far right forks. Yeah, the far right guy needs to go to the far right side
correct
He is the far isn't moving the far again, or are you far right?
He's far left. He's like far far left
That does make sense anybody the melee are just doing it the other way around like people in the front
Right are just soaking as soon as they can and just like pack manning that shit and the people in the bottom left
Take whatever it is that sounds cursed for range like for melee
It's not like any less movement to do that, I guess but are they just sounds terrible
Yeah, we have extra time and also we have more orders to so sometimes the way is just clogged
So you have to take the first two and then stop but ideally as far right guy you want to go right if you can but sometimes
They're your spawn on top of each other
So I think everyone should like always try to tend to push right and just stop when you get to but if you're a far
right guy try to avoid the first if you can also if you get to the early ones you
fill soak when extra on at the end yeah exactly like balls yeah so it's better
to soak not soak one and then delay your second so it's so too fast and it will
drop when you can so you're soaking too fast and then getting one later or the
people on the far right gonna go all the way to the far right just doing
the Batman thing yeah I'm fine yeah we have like 15 seconds for everyone to
go right there so there's like we should be able to get that I think it's better
as Jack said that the far right maybe soaks to when you're ready to soak two
more in the end if you need. Yeah let's go. Also most of that was just caused by
someone being out of position. But the polls before that, the Mali are saying
that you guys are seeing different orbs than you've ever gotten so I think
like someone on that side in the last like 10 or five polls has like changed
their positioning a little bit and that's maybe orbs look different
currently some of what they're sound like they're saying Nick could it be
up. Very good. We do have new people in. Um Scott that no it would actually zero new people on that set
because they're all melee red and no one there has been changed. Rotating in three, two, one. No. Get
those ads in. Make sure they're under the boss. Yeah. There you go. Good ring. Bernardio is
shitting on those scarabs. Mm hmm. I mean, I can't really do laws. My breath is really
I thought words were so bad.
I don't know what changed.
Yeah, I agree.
I am feeding off the boss with my breath rolling.
It's just the brush.
That sounds bad, yeah.
Front of the blue here.
One dot M.
Could be a Razaget thing where no one actually realizes
that they themselves have moved something,
but the entire group has adjusted.
Because you have to adjust around each other
with venomous rain, just like you did with Razaget sparks.
So maybe the entire group has shifted, right?
And they haven't even realized it.
Okay, move here, rotating in three, two, one, now.
Get the scarabs under, good.
And slow and ring them if possible.
We made a web, we need backup on the range.
Backup on the range, yeah.
One, it's right here.
I can't even run and run.
We got it.
Good job, Rikki.
Res him as well.
Reboard him for what he's done.
Good job, Rikki.
I love you, Rikki.
I just want to be a Rikki.
Get your spawns, that's my lunge.
Intermission is starting sometime soon, not quite sure.
Now, does anyone have a correct timer for that?
When the shield's going up?
Yeah, when the shield's apes up power.
This broad?
Yeah, mini-spread now.
And all the red orbs are good at least.
Good, good, probably last set of orbs spawning now.
Good be careful of your stacks here. We have 10 seconds to soak these do not greed
So red come back to us. That was what they should just you know
You have five seconds to soak orbs here guys four three one more red or more blue or one more blue right there right there right there
Right there good. Yeah, I got it
I'm sure good funnel on blue here
Hey web board text be across from each other beyond the marks be on the next day my max melee get with your partner
With your partner remember your sides. It doesn't change
change based on the week we're up. Okay, ready to go back in after we'll be missing
it is on here. Hey, so Gorg's here guys, especially ones under the boss first, watch
the good Shaq in three, two, one, now, already three, two, one, now, fired up in three,
two, one, now, impact in three, two, one, now, and Atlas in three, two, one, you
I tell you what every time I clean the spark. Yeah, W. Shit
All right, everyone get like loosely stacked on each for here
Pumping up and then and then you're gonna just move left with your frontal each group and
Then we're going to get movement and go towards the guy
He's teleporting right now. Look at the boss's arrow. Look at the arrow. Go. Let's have a raw script
It was
Good let them go
Go through.
I should give this one.
It's good.
You're ready to go for it guys.
Snap your webs.
I'm going to go for it now.
Boomi go under the boss in 3, 2, 1, now.
Renako before it ports in 3, 2, 1, now.
Atlas you're going to go middle first.
Atlas is middle in 3, 2, 1, now.
Tang is in 3, 2, 1, now.
Tang.
And then THD get under.
End of spell whenever.
Good.
Make sure the scarabs are under the rosnick. Yep, rosnick. Yeah. Oh
He's up shit. Thank you. How the fuck oh, yes, that's also. Yeah, that's right
Yeah, okay, make sure you're on opposite sides blue on blue red on red hit a hit a new barash here ready for the intermission
You'll be sure to take the ball stuck here. Oh, yes
What is the position? Oh, sure. Yeah, we're just bringing him on top of the boss in the next intermission
It always spawns where it goes down good
On the Scott house beat
and savvy consent.
Why?
Just having a luster now.
Yeah, fuck it.
Watch the orbs guys, only get one, one soak.
They're on the upside side.
Stay, stay, stay, stay red, stay red.
Good, and we're spawning orbs now.
Rotate.
I'll get you at all.
That's nice.
I feel like this phase is a vibe.
This is easy as fuck.
Yeah, that's all the space.
This is way easier.
Way easier.
Wait, wait.
Alright, let's stop.
Oh, fuck.
Nick is dead.
Break up, break up.
Heal me, heal me.
Oh, the range on the left side.
Okay, it's fine.
We're moving him on.
This is Reds.
We're going to the wall, right?
Reds or wall, Blues are towards the middle.
So Blues, yeah, Reds go to the wall.
I'm dead.
Let me get into the wall.
Give me a little bit of space.
Yeah, you're fine.
You're fine.
Blue towards the middle.
Blue towards the middle.
Yeah.
I'll come to you, Sine.
Partners.
Got you wrong.
Yep.
Partners, give me your partner here.
here. You guys like the partners. Good reds first. You guys all go right. I'll go right.
I'm gonna die here. Good. Go forward. Good. And then everyone go back and soak your orbs.
Three, two, one, go. So orbs and red. Get ready for the web-bomb pairs.
Does all of them get thonged? What is that?
We got it. W. Keep going. W shift. W shift. Oh, this is the gateway. That's the gateway.
that's the gateway and then we're getting to spell debuffs after this
How many others you have alive? Oh, we're gonna go live, live, live, live.
Yeah. Nice. Check it shit. Let's go, Shaq.
We're gonna get it back again. Double go. Let's go.
You won't slash that.
Do you have a good luck? Get all five.
Just get under the boss. We can die and give him the spells.
Literally just fucking die, man.
Renako, get meleeed under the boss.
I
Doesn't work this here just look sketchy because of the spikes
Like it's so I died and then the boss like moved and put the worst spikes ever fucking possible known to man
Wait, where is that? Let's see. This is if you look at where the red people the webs off the go
It's absolutely insane. It should be really easy. Oh, oh you mean because of the yeah, the boss like ran after
Yeah, it was just kind of like a wait for it to go and it's actually cross
I was gonna say I wonder where we should actually put those are flakes, but I'm pretty sure for damage
It's just you put it right on the boss and figured out under spine as guns man
It's just like they wasn't under it was like it. I'm pretty sure this is one of the worst spots you could put it
The web vortex goes on red first, so you guys are all going right in this phase, right? So you guys all go this way
I'm gonna see if that happens. Everyone starts running there. Looks like Alice these trace fine
By the way, is your week or that you guys are getting accurate with what you guys told me you wanted to do every time?
Yeah, yeah, please so
I don't know
No in there mine told me to the left. Okay, maybe someone might have a different partner. Yeah, yeah
But I don't think you have a different partner, right so so if I'm correct the like
like assignment left and right thing can be removed because everyone is always going to
the same you know where you're going so there's no reason yeah the issue should not be following
the tech speaker we should have it load never okay and then after I yeah I couldn't see where
it was here but like this group it was fine but was it red group it was oh yeah watch this
it gets crazy it gets fucking crazy dude siri buried on himself and died at like the
the last fucking millisecond for his web bomb to hit.
Look at him, he just fucking died right there.
What a beast.
American hero right there.
Yeah.
It's a strong, this front-line comment.
And I got it right.
Yeah, yeah, this front-line is insane.
So how you have to do this frontal, I think,
so this is aiming at the red team, correct?
Yeah.
So blue should be on the wall here.
That's step number one.
And the red team should like,
you either need to bait the frontal here
and then gate there.
That's what you do.
Oh, that's a good one.
Oh, down here.
Fucking Bernadio.
Is that a horn?
Are you making an air horn, Likor?
Yeah, we're making an air horn for the feast.
We need it to be looking every point once again.
I thought it was going to go in the air.
I thought it was going to go in the air.
That's a good Likor.
Love that.
And you eat it, son.
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Trading Facility, of course. Anyways, they did just have a really good pull. Got
over a couple of hurdles that we've been working on all morning.
Yeah, 44, like 0.7, I think, roughly. They're chokepointing it for the last couple of hours,
and my left shift has been that third, basically a root on the boss coming out of the double,
the pentatus bell. The final phase, basically, getting that root in the boss, which the whole
rig gets pulled into, and you can't break a handful of those roots. You see the week
where they have assigned, like, left keep means you're going left for that root.
You're not breaking your root, and you're going to root the boss that way. It takes
three pairs, or yeah three pairs is essentially the same as phase one, but they got through it
and they shaved off I think six and a half percent in the boss again, showing together.
Yeah, the, the, oh man. I don't know why. The sequence of mechanics occurring in that last phase,
we've only seen like the first 30 seconds of the phase and it looks like it's a,
it's like a while to learn that phase because not only is there an overlap of the earthquakes
in addition to having to keep three of your webs together to break the charge.
But I'm imagining there's also going to be frontals going out,
lots of the time, while you're also trying to do dispels on top of the boss in the middle of the room.
Not only that, but there are going to be a ton of moat spawns throughout the entire phase
that they're going to have to be constantly switching for.
So, I think this last phase, while it might look not as hard as we initially expected,
I think it's still going to be absolutely insane and that's not even to mention
We don't know where the damage check has to be yet. What is the heart and rage on this fight?
We don't know. Yeah, we don't know so I
Mean look that that last fight was seven minutes twenty two seconds 43% pole. What if the heart and rage was 10 minutes?
I
mean
Yeah, there's a lot of DPS. They still need to be optimized
I would assume they're lusting the burrow shield, which is basically when this boss burrows earlier on in this replay here
Which I mean need to break that shield
But the same time lusting during a point where you can get like maybe a little more DPS optimization is likely going to be changed at some point
And this boss is progress. We're not sure the heart and rage, but you are correct
we've wiped it 44 percent about seven and a half minutes into the fight and
It's gonna be a little tough finding that percent but keep in mind
We also have reset tomorrow another craft coming in a great fault a re-clear and all that which will help a little bit
But looking back at brew twister as well as Kaiveza
There was a lot of DPS optimizations made by analysts going in pulling to use one thing for the next and we'll see where it goes
We've seen this replay right here. This is that triple root. We're talking about the
Right yeah, yeah, correct. Am I wrong here? No, this is it
Yeah, so this is this is the overlap of the burrow right this the triple root
We have right here which does indeed sun the boss and you can see the burrows coming out
It roots right there and you get the dodge like the second after that actual charges caught right there
Yeah, the barrier comes down unfortunately top of the burrow
But the boss is rooted here taking additional damage look at his frontal coming in right there on top of the boss
They did say that's where they went that next gate to be but as far as like DPS and the boss there from melee
That's gonna be a headache to dodge in that damage amp
Yeah, and the thing is everything is baited
So you should be able to theoretically come up with exact positions for everyone to be in for this
so that you can bait that frontal away from the other group, but it's going to
be difficult for them to do. And you can see they're actually spending a lot of
time in between pulls since having that new best pull, talking about probably
exactly what they want to do right after that next, after that mechanic results.
Because we saw they kept going for a little while afterwards. Even though
most of the raid was dead they got more timers in that phase, and it's
going to help them get even further into the fight. Yeah, the next
mechanical overlaps going to be that quad or that pentadispell again, which is pretty fast after the last set of dispels
But we know once that is done
It'll stun the boss milling in and the next overlaps going to be webbing the boss
So those six links at the same time as five dispells
it's going to like overlap in
What we assume is probably the final like mechanical overlap to the boss just dies or you die which at this point
You're gonna die. We need a lot more damage than his boss, but we're getting there
I'll say as far as progression is concerned. I didn't think we'd see this far into the fight this early in a progression
Yeah, I'm not gonna. Yeah, I agree with you on that front
I don't think we were gonna see this far on the first like major full day of progression
But I guess they got a lot of information yesterday from what they were doing with the polls
they were doing it wouldn't really be able to get the information that they were getting from the polls on
PTR because
You know spending time in the raid with only 10 people figuring out mechanics
This is not necessarily going to be as valuable as doing a 20 player pull.
That's probably what they did for most of their PTR testing, but as we know they spent
several hours in there with just one group of people, just 10 people on one color, so
they would never actually die to the moat mechanic, which got them a lot of information
about the fight.
So, that's very useful and is probably a large portion of the reason why they're
doing so well today.
Yeah, mechanically.
Damage-wise though, we'll see where that goes.
So, we'll see.
That's not something we need to worry about right now, right?
If you think about it, the damage should go up from here, at this point in the fight
they've only had two of the six damage amps they're going to have on the bosses on this
encounter, and they've also had to chew through two pretty large shields as well.
So they actually haven't been able to do as much damage to the boss's HP bar as you'd
like at this point, so 10 minutes wouldn't be awful, wouldn't be great either though.
Yep, what we also know about.
A couple hours ago we got a 5% health nerf for the boss accompanying a change to the tank mechanic making a hit for
Essentially 150% more damage making it so you can't solo tank this boss. So that health nerf
Maybe they're to compensate for bringing our tank in but might just be there because the boss has a lot of health as well
They did make it do more damage. They also made the debuff hit you 10 times harder if you stick it on you
They said no no no more
You got your one boss in the devs are upset
Don't do it again.
What is it? Fool me once.
Yeah, fool me once.
Okay, yeah. That's pretty true actually.
No, you're good.
I was just going to say, let's backtrack maybe a little bit just for people that are just now tuning in.
We're going to head to our Coinbase leaderboard.
Catch you everyone up to where we currently are.
We've got three guilds
currently progressing all in the same boss.
Of course, Liquid, Echo, and Method.
It was kind of exciting this morning when Echo and Method were finishing their raid day.
We were just kind of starting it.
We had polls all on Silicon Court at the same time.
And we've also got soup hot pot hero, not soup,
but I've come through that word in there myself.
Nice. Hold on. Oh, I've got one, too.
OK, well, hold on, hold on.
We're taking a little Monster Energy ASMR moment.
We can once again.
Oh, that was late.
I'm not even kidding. This is so sad.
This one is in there.
There we go. That was clean.
It was nice.
All right, I was saying, yeah, as you can take a look
at our Honda Boss progress right here, the Silk and Court, where we currently are, just
got that best pull of 43.81%. And of course, we will be moving on to the Maltese to Queen
Ancierec after that. But don't think we're going to see her before the reset.
No, I think we're seeing Queen Ancierec as early as maybe Wednesday night, somewhere
in the world. I think it's likely a Thursday-ish angle. But I venture to guess this race
probably ends on a very cautious that's your Saturday likely yeah I'm not a
Saturday Saturday I'm not as best to be Saturday think about it we're gonna get a
lot of progress today there's still six or seven hours left in the day today
right it's four o'clock right now about yeah seven good hours of progress
left in the day and then like one hour maybe delirious laughing at each other
because that's kind of what they think tomorrow yeah you know reset tomorrow
spend some time reducing up their characters get the great faults
going, and then they have a really tough decision to make, that we've seen them go either way
in past races and it has cost them or won them the race, depending on if there's a reset
or not. Do they spend all of the time possible to juice up their characters, do every single
hero explode for any very rare item they don't already have, get every single bit
of item level they could possibly get to help get them prepared for re-clear,
and then re-prog on Silicon Court, and then of course prog on the big baddie at
the end, Queen Answer, or do they just rush it as quickly as possible, get to the boss
get as much information as possible? I've seen them do both things, and I've seen them
win or lose based off of making that decision before, so it's a tough question for them
to answer, because we still don't know what the tuning is going to be like on the final
boss.
Yeah, I mean, I think I have a pretty good idea how Silicon Court damage tuning looks
like based on having a whole day here. If they hit this boss like say in a few
hours, like they killed Princess in a few hours, now hit it for like six hours
a prod before reset. It's probably a harder call to make, but I think with them having
a day and a half, that's not a good idea. They left a handful of splits last week, I
guess this week, to be done a couple days ago actually, going for a Sikron next and things
of the sort. Plus they have 16 characters roughly. You can probably just gear the
current comp here. Maybe a couple are in mind for Queen Antrack and just say, hey,
if we need to gear, we can because this race is not ending Wednesday. It's not
going to be a weird like oh we got a resetting gear coming in the boss dive and gear manage.
You have a whole boss after Prague still, right? Evergild does. No one's seen Ancher
X, right? You're going to be a pretty insane fight looking at how Brew Twister, Kaveza,
and this fight have been tuned so far, so we'll see. We'll see.
Yeah, there are certainly various advantages and disadvantages to getting the reset
first. Obviously the biggest advantage is if you get that reset of gear when you're
already on the final boss, and then you can clear, get to the boss with two or three extra
item levels, and you pretty much get an entire day on the boss with the reset of gear before
the other team gets the same benefit.
If the race extends on to Saturday or Sunday, like we're talking about it potentially doing,
yeah, most of that advantage of the early reset is gone and you're back to just the
default hours of damage ahead that you had at the start of the race, which has
been largely eaten into by Echo at this point.
Teams are pretty neck and neck with maybe only the slightest advantage for Liquid
right now so it's we're not in the greatest of situations right now on
making that decision I was talking about earlier whether or not you do every
single possible thing for gear or not you might just come down to okay time crunch
we need to re-clear we need to kill soak in court as quickly as possible so we
can get to answer as quickly as possible and then maybe leave those
heroic splits for like I don't know rushing on cloaks and sick around necks
until like the very last thing you do if you really need that extra bump
of damage. Right. I mean you also can bring characters into Queen Ancherich for a full
tier set of needy, but I'd venture to guess most have to have that through normal Heroic,
even on split characters at this point. One thing worth mentioning as well is that they
will not have Vantus runes on Nexus Princess, which is good because you can Vantus rune
either in Silken Court or likely very likely Queen Ancherich. It'll be Ancherich 100%.
They will not Vantus Silken Court next week. We're also sort of waiting in the links
here for potential tuning from Blizzard, looking at Brute Twister and Nexus Princess, which
if it's going to happen will likely be announced somewhere in the next couple hours between
4 and 7pm PST, which is basically the rest of our block.
I don't think Brute Twister will get tuned.
That's a boss that's been killed by several other guilds that have less item level
and less time spent raiding compared to our top three guilds.
I do highly suspect that Nexus Princess will be getting a very large change.
They typically do not like bosses being one tank, and it was also an extremely difficult
boss, so I would not be surprised to see similar changes to that fight as we saw at Silicon
Core, making it on one tankable, but also compensating health nerf to the boss to
make it more doable.
In addition to that, they're going to have a significant amount more gear next week.
That'll make the DPS check on that boss easier to do, and give them a little bit of leeway
to re-kill the boss to where maybe they do get a really bad DPS death, you know, three
minutes into the fight, which would have been a reset during CROG, but it could still be
a kill during Re-Clear.
Okay.
Yeah, interesting.
Well, Kalamazie.
Hello.
That's I'm finally getting moderator.
Oh, wow.
Test here.
Oh, you're going to ban someone?
I want to put a door in it, Chad.
here. Oh, you're gonna ban someone? I'm gonna put a door in the chat and see how it goes. Watch out guys, Florida
Ben has mud. Oh, I don't scatter. Careful. Scatter. Did they mod the wrong color? Mazza? There's one. I am my twitch name.
Oh, let's see. Oh, there it is. Oh my gosh. It's over. It's over. Look at you! Where's Hendry at? There's Gamer. Can I ban Gamer?
Um, unfortunately you can't man other mods.
Mmm.
Um, yeah.
Mmm.
No.
Uh, perhaps you just set in my ear unmodding Kalamazzy?
Okay, copy production?
No, no, no, I can't.
If production, you guys are on the team liquid account.
Can you ban gamer, uh, HTTP?
They could do that, that they could do.
And it would unmod...
Uh, but they don't wanna do that.
Well I did just time somebody out, can't see if they wanna be timed out.
Who was it?
minutes timeout katsuku who i got a swift response not going to do that
i rule with an iron fist
apparently gamer also has access to the tl account so it wouldn't really
that's okay wouldn't really do much unfortunately but
kalamazoo noted rolls with iron fist somebody was asking what your shirt
says kalamazoo uh it says raider io wow division
raider io being a partner of the race first i'm also wearing a liquid
up Harold Starwars Jack. Really like right here, my favorite song.
It's drippy today.
This one home in the Wild Beaver hat.
Yeah.
Which I am dripped out today.
You're dripped out today.
I am indeed, yes.
Yeah.
I think it's a reference to a joy, what's up man's name?
It's a big one.
Joy Division, yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know either.
Oh, I get it.
Wow.
20's music.
Yeah, it's the 20's music.
Yeah, it's like the olden times.
Do you mean 1920's?
Yeah.
OK, I thought you were calling music from this decade, 20s music.
No, I'm not looking at that, to be honest.
Yeah, it is a radar special.
Very nice. Yeah, they just came out with some new apparel, so definitely go support them.
As well as our apparel, TL.GG slash STORR.
We have Race World 1st apparel as well as the WoW 20th Anniversary apparel line that you can pre-order.
I've been looking for a new zip-up hoodie, because I live in Florida.
I get a lot of awesome team look at apparel.
But unfortunately a lot of it's like hoodies that are very heavy, I've only wear for like, you know, two days out of the year.
Right.
But a zip-up hoodie.
Ooh.
I can wear it all the time.
True.
Oh, yeah, mm.
Layer up easily.
Yeah, very nice.
Put it on.
Put it on.
Uh, Xyronica's the derp shirt on today.
That's the scooter shirt.
Then you get the scooter shirt.
Hmm, I like that shirt too.
Did you draw this one or would someone else draw this one?
I believe, um,
Alaska on the apparel team.
Through it.
Oh.
Yeah.
The one before that was Nicole.
Okay.
Yeah, it was a producer here, a team liquid, which it was an accident too.
It wasn't even meant to be a shirt, but the lore behind it is we were doing like a
machinima video where there was a merch guy
in-game and we're like, oh, we need a shirt.
So Nicole drew up a shirt and then enough people were like, that needs to be a real shirt
and then so it was.
What if we made a stretch goal for our charity event
to make a whole series on the swamp?
This picture I drew for a shirt.
I would love that as a shirt how much would they go?
$100,000 to the Germanica Animal Shelter.
I don't think a charity drive during the race for the first has ever hit that much money.
You heard it here first here.
What is our record for most during that event?
I think it was last year.
I think it was.
Boston was pretty high as well but I think this year or last year might have actually
beaten out Boston.
I think we did by like $10,000 at least.
That's crazy.
Maybe.
We have to check up on that, because, yeah.
What?
I know Echo tends to make more money than us for their charities, so...
It's all for a good cause regardless, so we're all doing the best we can.
Oh yeah.
No, it's not. It's a competition.
Whoa.
I'm just kidding.
All right, lock it, hey!
Hey.
Start to get donate and shout. Let's go. Come on. I.S. Edit.
Yeah.
Who are they raising money for this time around?
TL.GD. Slash.RWF-Donate.
And for $30 or more, we will rate your transmog, or...
You're awesome pet pictures. Is it too early in the race to bring in the dead joke submissions?
Nope. Nope. No because none of them I don't even track Tiltify anymore because it's all transmogs and pets which is obviously great
But there aren't any any messages like I do have Tiltify up here. We can read messages
It gives us something to do while they're progging. If you want to make this groan at your really really bad jokes
Absolutely
Feel free to toss that one in there too. Yeah, or you want to say something nice or give us a riddle
There was a year where we did a lot of riddles. That was exciting. Oh riddles are good
Yeah, we also hit our $15,000 incentive earlier, which is twitch plays production. Oh
Yeah, I don't know how they're gonna do that. They are very secretive of their tech over there
But it should be exciting should be fun. We'll find out. Yeah, we'll find out
They have something in mind. I'm sure they're gonna plan that already in my ear
or do we? They say. With a kind of sussy sounding tone. So production, how's something planned?
I've heard some of the ideas that come up with it.
Oh, do you want to leak?
Can't be good.
Or it could be very good depending on your opinion of what they do.
Yeah, we'll see.
Unfortunately, this pole was going pretty well here. Getting into that first dispel set.
We do see Scott go down without a battle.
We'll have one in about 10 seconds here, I believe.
That's a if actual gifts can tank both these bosses for a little while have a rest for him right about now
I've yet there's the rest if we can get it out on Scott fast here
We should be able to see further in this fight
We're going for that last spell coming in about a second left in this spell
We do indeed get it boss is stunned here Scott's back up. This is actually a pretty clean push the entire rage alive
So what you're gonna see next here an actual a second grip coming in on the rage putting off both sides and that blue and red
Half of the room not overlapping
followed by one final pentadispel and then after that there's going to be the
burrow phase on this boss here where they haven't even committed lust and that's
where that big burn is coming in but the boss they're already at 48% here now
they're finding some good damage here this is actually really impressive and
it goes the point of making a lot through twist here nexus princess once
they have the mechanics down they are extremely good at optimizing so yeah
sure we'll see this number start to come down and down down this is where
I would like those splits. I would like to be able to see like oh their best split here is
47.71% or whatever and then we could have that on the screen and be like oh this is a red split behind
This is a green split their head. Oh, we need soaks in that. Oh my gosh these soaks it is burrow
It's just so intense pretty tough 15 seconds. So it's a little bit scared. It's not as scary as it looks
Okay, but they're doing a good job of it and you know we have all 20 people alive
We do, we have, and yeah we actually already threw both the panther to spell, so that's the shield phase there, Lest was already committed, Lest was committed there, correct, I don't even, is there a Lesty buff?
I don't see a Lesty buff, no. But the thing we should look at here, look at the timers on Drainage's screen, just to the left of his character frame there, there are about 20 different abilities to open up in the next 20 seconds here.
Oh, and look at the armorylithing rage, that's a soften rage, correct, at 2.5 minutes, so we're looking at an 8.5 minute rage roughly?
probably give or take 840 ish well let's see if we can get that far the
entire rate is live here though the next mechanical overlap here is going to
be the grip coming in right here team to soak the colored orbs that they're
assigned to and this link with these webs you need to hold the boss needs to
be rooted in this charge by three pairs while the burrows happening to
see if they can get it done there's one there's two there looks to be
three with that burrow coming on top to be here with the boss we were able
to catch it was very nice that burrow was in a very good spot
Unfortunately, we just lost almost half of our team. I can only imagine that was to one of the moats going off
One of the types of boats going off and killing them off
Unfortunately, but we still have 13 players alive
So let's see just how low we can get the spots and how many more mechanics we can do another Poland
Snap those webs right away. There's no burrow for a little while here. So we don't have to worry about that too much
It's got a dodge circles on the ground
Very soon. We're going to have dispels coming out
Yep, this is that last pentha to spell coming here we talked about so we're gonna see this
to spell which will indeed stun the slender boss, the schemes bitter boss in the middle
of the room for a damage amp if they can get through here probably not most of the raid
is dead but this will be it the final solo mechanical overlap of the bosses like main
abilities then you're gonna have both at the same time this is a very good progression
point 35.8 and the boss 8% shaved off this boss is yeah they're doing a good job
Is this available?
Like, soon we'll be thought.
Maybe.
Wow.
Maybe.
I think it all depends on the actual enrages.
Yeah.
So, 35.88 being their best there.
And just to clarify, that was...
That was five...
I think.
That was five out of seven damage amps, we believe happening.
Five out of seven or eight.
So, the sixth damage amp will be right when they wipe there.
That the skiing boss the one on the left will be in the mother room for that last I said it dispels and then we're gonna have the
Overlap of both abilities you're gonna have five disbells in the room plus the big beetle boss charge in the wall
Which I assume stuns them both actually that's a double damage. They're both done at the same time
I'm not sure if they'll be stacked is the problem and that might be the point they're saving their lust for that'll be where they
Ideally you know have spymasters procs for where they have cooldowns ready for everyone available
that would be the ideal situation for the double lust. It looks like for the DPS
check to be even remotely possible they're going to need to absolutely
maximize those damage amp phases which I'm sure they're starting to do a little
bit more and more as the fight goes on and you can see I mean there are
certain classes that are just trucking this boss those two DK's being brought
back in for this boss after sitting on Nexus Princess Kavissa both in the
top three on that long pole, double enhanced shaman. Also both doing work both in the top
seven here but of course I think through low roll pulls for them normally we can see them
do a lot more damage than that. Yep a devastation voker mixed in there with an aft lock as well.
Things looking pretty solid that last pole. I'm wondering so that time stamp there was 726
I would assume the dispel is probably 730 which would probably make that final double stun
around the 815 mark and the hard range 840 if it's on the timer. If they're wiped to the
the camera and says look at all those chickens. Look at all those chickens. I remember that.
I've never seen it. Remind me to show you after. Wait, I could look it up right now.
Literally search. Look at all those chickens. Look at all the chickens. Look at all the
chickens. Hold on. Yeah. Man, I'm surprised that even going into that shield burn, the
boss was sitting around 48%, which is pretty solid, but they had the whole raid alive
at that point previously at those checks they've had two or three players down and with more
optimization on the boss that 48% which was 52 would likely be 45 and 43 and you'll see
more and more being shaved off the boss the further we go.
I'm sorry I was looking at all the chickens.
Oh yeah that's a good one yeah that's it that's the video yeah.
Wait, look at all those chickens.
It's very good.
It's very good.
I could I mean no they don't look like chickens those are definitely
They can fly their birds
Here's an important question actually yes, they're on a candy. I have both as well
Oh, so you have both run Tina Tina side before correct. Yeah, mr.
Ravagers in the final part every second boss
those ravages are other
other
NPCs that aren't technically birds do you refer to them as birds because they have wings and they fly
Or do you say hey those ravagers are coming in we should talk to us or you say hey birdies
If you're using a scientific name for something in World of Warcraft
Yeah, that's so you say birds right yeah, yeah, so they're bees if you're making a call out
We use well you say okay, but will you say
What's another one for example? Hey those dragons flying in or hey bird bird?
It's faster. I usually just say something like watch Pat. Okay watch patrol Pat
Pat, who dog or pat patrol?
I would have no idea.
Pat the dog.
That's a pretty typical mythic plus or thing to say.
Watch Pat.
Pat coming, careful.
Yeah, what are these birds doing here? Exactly.
Exactly, even the gamer first to them.
These birds.
Okay, just to clarify, that's an ongoing debate.
Anything that has wings is a bird.
Well, we've got somebody on our right monitor
that we're watching here who is famously known
for calling almost every single NPC
NPC and I'm with it plus I'm doing a dog that's what he did what that's what he
did when I played with him it's fair I think it makes sense remember and I have
a shower when on his mage he was going pole you know 50 of the little crabs
together today we them down you're like all right I'm gonna get the dogs how
really price 16 he was at 19 yeah yeah you've been back then dogs everything
dogs I guess I thought everything with four legs that was maybe a little bit
bigger was a dog I didn't know it was also applied to the crabs
little mini ones in a
which in Ayavajara what about the birds in Ayavajara
we call those birds those dogs too those were gulls
gulls okay we see that's optimized okay
I liked that dungeon not many people did I know I don't know
I mean I kind of miss it not with those affixes
You know, I'd be down to do it again.
Bring it back.
This is a fun one.
I'm sure it'll come back at some point.
You know, on the seasonal dungeons
we're having ever so often.
Once again, mauve souls, please.
Blizzard.
I feel like if they brought back mauve souls,
it would be an actual disaster.
What?
Why?
Why?
Because they make everything more difficult.
There's a million knockbacks and stuns and saps
and heaths and fears and fears.
You're behind me.
They would probably force you to play the lantern bears.
which would be a complete disaster.
Yeah, and you're saying, I forgot about that.
What do you mean, forced to play the lantern bears?
There were certain mobs in the dungeon that were banned.
They were off limits, you never pulled them.
Huh, maybe I don't know about them
because they never pulled them.
They were called the lantern bears.
There was one downstairs in the little hole area
after killing the first boss.
And there was one that patrolled on top of the boat
as well in a circle and you actively dodged him.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, you're right.
Because if you pulled them, they had an AOE cast
that just did a ton of damage, unhealable damage.
They make you pull the entire boat, probably.
Everything dies and mossles.
It makes sense, it's thematic, right?
I'd still be interested to see how they bring it back.
I would, too.
It'd be fun.
Maybe someday.
That dungeon was diabolical and tyrannical, though.
Hell yeah, it was a...
Second boss was rough, too.
Remember that.
Well, second boss was rough.
Just damage right there.
Because, okay, the damage on the players
who got the ghost was pretty high,
But like, it was really hard to see the scythe mechanic.
Oh, I think that was a one shot.
And the squirrels weren't that great either on that fight.
Squirrels?
A lot of dark colors on dark colors.
Squirrels?
Oh yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Hell yeah, it was a fun one though.
I'd be down for it.
Make the large mossles, you run in, run to the boss, blast everything down.
I'm watching Xyra do that for MDI, Tyne Drowls, I was Hunter for a long time
actually.
I did play Hunter and Tyne, I forgot about it.
I didn't forget.
I never forget you didn't forget zyro playing a hunter hunter and maw souls I played wind walker monk in upper carousel
Nice, I like to carousel and to both
Once we walk back yet before have we?
I don't think either okay. We're came back in
It was the end of season four of a dry shadow lens settle on
Yeah, I was not really did it all the mega dungeons. I wasn't I was final fantasy mode
during that season the first time around for upper kerosene a lot of dungeons
like that mdi was just I think was for wind walkers in just one tank it wasn't
a brewmaster maybe was it just five wind walkers stock or five months
that's um blood decay oh okay yeah with consumption healing I think correct
yeah it was just for wind walkers in a blood decay no healer when Walker lit
through everything was best class in the game damage wise and we had the
the sickest strat for a shade of, um...
Hose of the sand?
Hose of the sand?
Medivh, one of the two.
Shade of Medivh.
Yeah, Shade of Medivh and Upper Kharazan, where we would all swap to agro-martricutes
on that fight.
Oh yeah.
And when the flame wreath came out, we all stacked on top of each other, everyone channelled
agro-martricute, just insta-popped it.
That's good.
And the field wasn't enough to live it.
I used to do a lot more amplus back than I am, or some of these things that were
going on.
Nowadays, I always want to and it comes around and I'm like, yeah, I'd rather just
take a nap or, you know, I don't know, bring me back, I'd do it again.
What was the dungeon in Legion where you were, you went in the, you snuck in through the sewers?
What about Arkway?
Toldegor.
What?
I think it was Ark.
No.
Toldegor is BFA.
Toldegor, no, I'm T.P.
That's BFA.
Oh, BFA, you're right, you're right.
Oh, it was Arkway then.
Yeah, my bad.
Arkway kind of was in the sewers a little bit though.
Yeah, no, you're right.
He was dollar or night hold sewers or whatever.
Suramar, sewers right, I think.
I don't know he's right. I think it's our play
I'm thinking told a gore though, but our quay also was you're right
Well the gore had an alligator boss outside before you went into the actual day
Swamp any jail broke someone
Yeah, upstairs and there was a boss like the final boss. I remember was trying to tell you killed everything with a cannon
Yep. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh my god. Everyone fight over the came in because you wanted the DPS
That wouldn't fly nowadays, I don't think.
Oh, a cannon thing like that?
They probably would nerf a cannon at this point, it came back.
I'm nerfing it like four times.
That's true, yeah, they did actually.
I really miss, um, I miss like Legion and BFA dungeons.
I think they were pretty good.
I feel like mechanically they might have been a bit too easy at certain points.
Some of them were.
You think?
They were good.
I will not take this erasure of difficulty in those dungeons.
Just because new dungeons have three mechanics on every single trash mob, doesn't mean the
ones that were not hard.
Oh, I'm not saying they weren't.
I feel like it was more just, they just hurt really bad.
Yes.
Compared to mechanics being really annoying, which honestly, I prefer things that just
one-shots you.
Just don't do something stupid and die to a one-shot.
Back then?
I feel like it was more based around that.
There was some mechanics, she had to kick and things as well, but things just hurt.
You need to like cheat death trinkets, aggurmar trinkets, live things.
I think that's more exciting than being 10 CCs per one mob.
Honestly, I wish we could go back to that a bit more.
Hard to agree.
I just feel like there were more...
Mechanic-y mechanics.
Like you had to know how they worked to get through them.
Does that make sense?
Back then?
Yeah.
Whereas now it's kinda like, interrupt.
Don't stand in bad.
You'll be okay.
Type of thing.
I can see it in some dungeons, yeah.
Like, you have to go pick this thing up over there.
You have to go stand here.
You have to...
What's the dungeon?
The Void one towards the end.
Are you talking about...
Nah, I think the other one.
See the Triumvirate?
Yeah, that's what I guess about that way a little bit.
Maybe a little bit?
Which one?
See the Triumvirate was certainly a more...
A dungeon that was closer to what we have nowadays.
It had a bit of time, I feel like.
Where a lot of trash mobs had a ton of things that you had to know about them.
The bosses were quite difficult.
A lot of people didn't like that dungeon just because of how much harder it was compared to the other keys.
The cap of that key level was usually 2 or 3 below it was the highest keys for.
I think if you threw it into the modern day M-plus pool, it would actually feel pretty similar mechanically.
Maybe tuning-wise we need some help at certain spots, but uh...
Ooh, that's supposed to blow up there.
I don't know, that was just the dispel mechanic.
I think it was the dispel with the knockback coming in, yeah.
They were struggling with a bit in this pool, it seemed like also, but uh...
It's interesting because on Mythic you need five dispellos to break that interrupt from the boss on Heroic and you need three.
But we've seen it from time to time. They hold the other boss so close to the main boss in the middle there for Cleave that at times it jumps to melee.
And they don't notice and they move into dispell but throws the whole rotation off of whoever's next in line.
And there's fairly little room for error there with that.
Not only is it five instead of three, it's also ten seconds instead of fifteen seconds.
So you have to do a dispell every two seconds instead of every five seconds.
There you go, it's a lot, a lot more difficult to get done.
It's pre-AOE cap, demon hunter.
What is it?
Pre-AOE cap, like old school demon hunter.
You mean like Legion demon hunter with red arms castating?
You just, eight targets, you just spam my beam.
Yep.
Good times.
Better times.
Better times.
Better times.
Can I, can I, can I change subjects a little bit?
Sure, sure, what's up?
They should make M plus in Final Fantasy 14.
They should make something in the game of interest, yeah.
They do need something outside of raiding that really catches people's attention.
I would do that.
They added criteria on dungeons in Last Expansion, but those weren't quite the same thing as
Mythic Bliss.
We be left, baby!
Thank you.
So, I'll give you my take on Final Fantasy when I first looked and played it a couple
years ago.
Okay.
I resisted for a long time.
I was farming Corthia during, you know, the game was sort of slow at that point,
My friends were playing Final Fantasy, Zyra was playing, all this stuff, everyone was playing, and here people kept asking me to play Final Fantasy.
Not a lot I want to.
I asked a couple of my friends, who I talked to every so often now still,
Hey, you play Final Fantasy, can I talk to you offline what there is to do in this game?
Like, what's that give me a lowdown if it's worth it or not?
About a 10 minute meeting.
I asked them, what do you do?
And they said, well, you can do different difficulties of raiding, you can go back, sort of raiding, and do older bosses with different difficulties, like time walking, I guess.
I said, okay, that's cool
What if I just log in with no plans? I just want to stream and vibe verb it
Are there dungeons I can do whatever I said?
No, but you can redecorate your house. I knew at that point. I was never playing that game
Listen, the true final fantasy game game is the housing system. You can't even get a house. Everyone knows this
Yeah, they're like, if you can get a house, but it's like, you're going to wait or something. Yeah, buy a lottery ticket
You might win. Sure, like I'm good. We'll get a free company. Do that too. The game a hundred percent as
worth playing for the story alone though. Yes. Well, I'm going to say something that's
going to make people really upset. Listen, if you just buy like a Shadowbringers boost
and start playing at the start of the Shadowbringers, you don't really need to know that story.
Your stream will fill you up. Cover your ears, MSQ enjoyers. What depends, can I milk
MSQ for a while? Oh yeah, they love it. Okay. Okay, so I can act like I'm sad about
it and stuff and like milk it for a little while, is that okay? Yeah, they also like
it when you read out every single voice line and like your own voice too okay i can do that
i gotta play a full awful if i play that game though so the no equivalent i
i couldn't be i couldn't do it mm-hmm it's okay i thought the same thing i thought i hate leveling
in wow mm-hmm i just leveling in general i hate in most games but dude final fantasy just
vibes with me i don't know i would be willing to give it a shot memes hide but i feel yeah i
I feel like what Zyra was saying, I'm not a leveling fan.
I don't read a whole lot of storylines a whole lot,
but I would give it a shot, but I feel like at max level,
without there being dungeons or M Plus to do
or something along those lines,
I would be interested really fast, very, very fast.
What do you do?
You just run around like looking at mobs and stuff all day.
What do you do?
Like when you're done with MSQ?
When you're just streaming the game,
like doing dungeons, great.
What do you do?
You just run around like, yeah, what do you do?
Just, I knew that in a while.
You live out, dude.
The thing, the one thing I'll say
that Final Fantasy has done a much better job of
than while it has done is they've made their old
content far more accessible and relevant than anything WoW has done. There's a very robust
system for doing that old content at level and scaled at that level, so you can do them
as they were intended originally. Obviously balancing is going to mess with that and new
classes entering the game changes that a little bit, but it's a lot more built up
than WoW is. So the other thing that Final Fantasy has that WoW doesn't have anything
close to is their ultimate fights. And ultimates are mashups of entire raid tiers put into one
boss encounter, which are on their own, more difficult than any WoW in bosses.
Okay, I'd be down for that. The raiding looks really cool. I remember, I think Max and
Kanter, were you in that group that was doing raid content? Okay, yeah. It looks really
cool. But then like, that's all they were doing. I might give it a shot. Maybe.
Hey, we converted one as ironic.
Well, I don't know that far.
I don't know that far.
OK.
But let me tell you something really important as a streamer.
OK.
He's going to stream Final Fantasy 14.
Oh.
Stream the MSQ.
They'll love you for it.
Let them carry you through dungeons and raids and stuff.
But make sure you do not start doing extremes or savage
on stream, because they will get mad at you
for getting better than them.
Oh, OK.
And doing your own thing.
Let your stream baby you the entire time and you'll be okay.
Can they care me to stream and savage?
Sure?
Yeah.
Hmm, okay.
All right.
Okay, that's good advice.
Also don't play Lollafell.
I'm gonna play a falafel if anything.
No.
Honestly I could see Florida Man, I know, a Lollafell.
Gosh, Honey Chonker is here, speaking of, hello.
Honey Chonker.
Legendary.
Honey Chonker is a mutual viewer of ours who cosplays as Winnie the Pooh in Final Fantasy.
Oh!
It goes around trading people's draws of honey.
Oh, okay.
Alright.
Do what you gotta do.
Alright.
Sounds interesting.
Hmm.
Well.
Yeah?
I'll contemplate it.
But if I can't get a house then...
What am I interested in?
You're not gonna have enough guilt to buy a house you buy Gil
Like is like a token like in wow or no? No, no, no
Everybody have they mad at me already?
It's a valid
Sprout question. Hmm. You know
What's up? Oh Sammy?
Oh, oh my whoa. Whoa. Oh my god. I was an aggressive hop up. Hi there. Hello, so athletic jump in the chair from the side here
Hello, ma'am.
Tired of being ignored, I guess.
I guess so.
I've never seen her do that.
You learned any trick.
She jumped in the chair.
She did.
Why?
Yes, I'm here.
Hello, ma'am.
They gotta get down.
There's a problem now.
I know.
I'm a little worried that if she jumps off, she's gonna knock something off on the way.
So I'm gonna give her an escape plan if she'd like to.
Yeah.
Please don't start howling.
No, you don't.
You don't need to do that.
It's okay.
You're okay.
She gets a lot of emotion so that she starts howling.
Oh, you want to go potty with your mom?
You want to go sight?
You want to go sight?
You want wuckies?
Here we go.
Good girl.
Barrels through all the production course.
I was a little worried about that.
Okay, we're good.
Don't worry.
We'll say hi to Sammy when she comes back.
She's going to go on wuckies.
Dog game where?
We could get one at the same time.
Our charity.
Oh!
Nice segue Kalamazee.
Yeah.
You want to flip chairs?
No.
I just felt the need for some more pet pictures that I haven't seen.
Oh, very good point, yeah.
I mean, we're mid-pull.
I'm just saying, you can queue them up.
We're mid-pull, we're mid-108th pull.
I think we can get distracted a little bit.
teal.gg slash rwf-donate send some pictures of some puppers
for Kalamazie for $30.
Yeah.
And cheer up our Florida man.
I'm a little down.
Or maybe give us a reason as to why Kalamazie should
play 14.
I need a dog.
You do need to get it done.
We lost big Brody in between last race and this one.
No.
Big Brody had cancer.
He passed away.
But it's OK.
He lives on.
Big Brody was my dog.
Well, our family dog.
Family dog.
Yeah.
The one on the pumpkin that I carved.
Oh, yeah.
Was he living with you or with your family?
With my dad.
That's making it easier.
Yeah.
Well, I am still.
I remember losing my family dog.
It was.
How far?
Do you live close to your parents?
I do, yeah.
OK.
10 miles like that.
That's nice.
Not too bad.
I found Big Brody.
Oh yeah.
It was on Craigslist.
Oh, I thought you were going to get lost.
Well, he needed a new home and we found him.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Wow.
He's a good animal.
We're not going to Craigslist.
Well, I mean, it was...
No, I know.
Someone was trying to be home, Brody.
Yeah, he was like a rare breed.
I was searching everywhere.
Because like, not easy to find.
He was an Airdale Terrier.
Oh!
And they're harder to find.
They're like super hard, but look.
Yeah.
He came from a high-end breeder and they were like,
we can't take care of this dog.
Was it was he a puppy or yes, okay arms were mulled how does a breeder?
End up not being able to take care of it. Well that somebody bought it from a breeder. Oh
I don't know why the breeder sold to them. Okay, but they did
You know what good for them though for not just dropping them off in it in a shelter
Mm-hmm, and hoping yeah, that's mm-hmm. This is you know, I think sometimes you get a dog and you your situation changes and
Yeah.
You gotta think what's best for the dog.
Exactly. Exactly.
You should have sent pictures of Brody. Have you done that?
I don't have some. I haven't. No, I could actually.
I could.
I grew up with a standard poodle.
That was my family dog. His name was Pazzo.
We called him Carpet Dog on my stream.
Back when I streamed for my parents house.
Carpet Dog. He was the same color and texture as the carpet.
So we called them carpet, well stream made that up, yeah carpet dog.
A couple of standard, a couple of, uh,
Spoodle owners.
Is that a special poodle or like?
A standard poodle.
That was a weird overlap of a stand up firen up at the looser.
I don't think that was ever going to be resolved there with how they had it set up.
Unfortunate.
Yeah, I never had dogs.
My family was always a cat family.
Cat family? My family was not a cat.
My brother is allergic and so is my dad.
So we never had them. Yeah, and I
didn't really have any friends that had
cats for some reason either, so I spent
no time around cats.
As a, as a, like my whole life basically.
And then something in me made me
get a cat and I knew nothing about it.
I was so scared when I first
got him. I thought his pee in the litter box
was like diarrhea. I was like, oh my god
my cat is dying that I just got.
I didn't understand like the concept of clumping litter.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, it was a big, it was a steep learning curve for me. Yeah.
I'm allergic, so.
Oh, yeah.
That's all right.
Yep.
So nice creatures.
They're nice creatures.
They do have hypoallergenic cats.
Oh, they do, yeah.
I didn't know that.
No region forest cats.
Yeah, but that actually like see, like totally hypergenic, or hypoallergenic.
They can be. So my friend got one.
Not a guest. Shout out, not a guest. If anybody knows who that is.
Uh, and they brought home a tuft of hair to test out if he was allergic.
Maybe he's not.
So you could go that route.
Interesting.
Maybe I will at some point then.
Maybe, yeah.
They're good for gamer lifestyles.
There's a reason.
That's a stereotype.
Well, as gamers, that we're just cat people.
Yeah, we can give it a shot, I guess.
I live in an apartment, though, it's makes it a little rough.
Oh, look at that.
I live in an apartment, not pet friendly.
It is, just like extra every month and like, I don't know, like, I wanted a great
day in for a while.
I came close to getting one there like, you know, you can have one.
But you're like on a higher floor and they stomp around and make noise and like well, are you going to allow it or no?
Like yeah we will but like okay well, this is going to be a headache.
I heard on retired Greyhounds are actually really good apartment dogs.
Yeah.
Like the big boys?
Yeah my father's friend runs a Greyhound rescue for ones that rescued from racetracks and stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a lot of Florida unfortunately.
That is a fun cover.
We can continue this in like two minutes but I want to highlight something.
Over to head.
Absolutely.
We have two warlocks at the right.
We do.
We've been in for about an hour or so but we're both playing AF now.
I just haven't noticed that we have the spot P.O.V.
Yeah, he came in, he's been in and out today a bit.
I talked to him in AF for days or a little bit ago.
He's playing AF, T.G.G. was playing Destro for a while, he's been heralding Destro, that's right here, but
T.G.G. is now also playing Infliction.
A different version of Infliction than I would expect here as well, they're playing Soul Harvester
and not Hellcaller.
But Soul Harvester is arguably a little maybe easier to micromanage in this fight.
But also a lot more involved in playing Dastro and just in general have a cleave, but
Yeah, I think the concept of playing Dastro in this fight is a lot more difficult
Especially when you consider that like the maximum DPS version of Dastro would probably be mayhem Dastro
Yeah, it's very RNG not something you want to deal with on progression
Yeah, I agree. You also the way affliction works is you can
It's arguably one of the highest bar specs in the game in single-target
If you watch like a guild opener and stuff, if they have aflox in the raid and let someone's not getting PI or whatever and skewing things,
Affliction will burst incredibly high in the opener and when you're looking at a fight like this with, you know, 6 to 8 damage burst windows,
especially at the end when they're both stunned and both taking more damage, Affliction can bring an insane amount of damage there.
It's very high in burst with DOS being on both targets, having just damage amps, maybe even giving a PI or two depending on your comp.
It's very very strong. Plus it also has damage amps to trinket based effects, which
Mag Queen's main day in this fight. Very very good. But most damage effects during those
damage amps. So it's not a bad choice here. I'm happy to see both in and we'll see if it sticks,
but uh, Splats haven't so much play this tier until right now. I'm sure he's excited as well to be in.
Yeah. Good to see. It is indeed. And these orb drops from range are split POV here seem
much more threatening than the ones in Melee.
Oh my goodness.
You can even see they've made some adaptations to their strategy, especially during the first
intermission, where they have made it so that range don't have to swap all the way around
the room.
They aren't in that Melee clump running in circles, they've set up like pairs of range
that can just stand out in between one slice and just swap modes the entire thing.
Which is really nice for them to actually be able to do damage.
Oh yeah, almost like a visor.
Yeah, it's already out, like little range camps where you have like your partner assigned to you.
You're just sort of rotating the orb while the raids rotating counterclockwise around the boss, so you can do those orbs.
You've seen some lower rolls, like multiple Pyke slice webs coming out and pushing them far, but yeah.
Every little bit of DPS is hyper-optimized here.
Range have their own clumps to maximize their own damage, melee are in there, leaving as much as possible, even during your spells, like I mentioned.
You've seen some jump into the raid because the beetle boss, the other boss, is basically right on top of the boss you need to spell on, if the player is too close, and if the spells jump to them,
well, it's going to be a wipe, but you need that damage there. You need every little bit optimized to get this boss dead, which looks like it might be a bit of a challenge, but we haven't gotten to that hard of a rage as of yet.
We're close though.
Or are we?
I'm close, I will see.
Like a minute off, but the last minute is going to be pure chaos.
It doesn't sound that long, but...
Ehhh...
Oh, you know...
So to take it easy, we got a ways to go.
Only a pull hundred and ten.
Yeah...
I think this boss is dead in sub-275.
Oh, we have 889 pulls to go, guys.
Yeah.
Is that how we're building the maximum of entries possible at $9.99 on our spreadsheet here?
Recast our predictions, but...
Depending where it goes, I mean, if its price is the right number, it might actually be...
Might actually be a correct guess, technically.
Do I need like $2.70 something like that?
I think the highest prediction is like 2080 outside of your 9 and 9.
Yeah, possibly somewhere around there.
I think it's dead before then, though.
Trying really hard to get her attention.
She was here for just a little bit.
There's food. She's preoccupied.
Oh. We have any spoilers?
Anybody?
You know, on the first right, there's always someone like $1.
And there's always that...
Oh.
...see if that's like $10.
Yeah, you did that.
Yes, I hate that.
What?
Mm-hmm.
I don't think I've ever watched that show in my life.
I mean, it's the right way to play the game.
Kind of like...
I...
Yeah, it's gross though, you're here.
I side-eyed them the entire time.
Mm-hmm.
I agree.
I'm judging you.
Hmm.
I'm curious if we're getting any tuning.
I thought we would've had some by now for the...
...pre-reset coming in.
It might be a post of the morning of reset as well.
Hmm.
Seems like it'd be a late post for the morning of reset, but...
You think any of the class buffs that are coming in, Zyra, will affect their comp for this boss at all?
Not for this boss at all.
Not for this boss at all.
Not for this boss at all.
Shadow pre-sport percent.
Not for this boss at all, I think.
Um...
Firemage might be really good on Oven X.
Oh, possibly with the nurse.
It buffs to Living Bomb, Flame Strike, and Teenage Flames.
It might even be pretty good for Mythic Pulse now.
I'm not too sure.
I haven't really been kept up with Firemage.
My guild just said play Mage this tier,
and then I looked at what the spec was to play,
and it's like Arcane. I'm like, okay, I'll learn Arcane.
There you go.
Oh, so you're not playing Locke at all?
I'm playing it as an old.
Yeah, Xyro was back and forth between Locke and Mage, he's half-trader but let it slide, it's okay.
He's going to another boss.
I just played whatever was good. That's fair.
Typically one of those two classes is all good.
I was going to say CUI that moved between Mage and Warlock.
If you're looking to play the best range, a very, very good chance to play Mage and Warlock
are going to be hitting right on one of those two.
Typically.
You pretty much.
So it is worth learning the methods playing a shadow priest on this fight in their progression as far as I've heard also on
Kivesa they play the shadow priest which night might not have been the best comparatively playing on this fight
But yeah shadow is receiving a 4% or above coming Tuesday, which makes things a little more interesting
But how does it do on Kivesa? That's what I was told. I haven't seen their kill. I don't know
I would assume very poorly
But I don't know you mean a shadow priest. Yes. I mean, I don't know their exact healing comp
I would assume they probably went maybe three prezz one shaman maybe like double prezz one holy one shaman
I've been for there like they're ramping damage for the 30%
Stack at the end. I mean they have like some puts to fate execute not a crazy amount
It's over for Fort if they had no like pre-stem for healing
If the stamina buff, it's possible. Maybe they knew Shadow was like secretly pretty strong in this fight and wanted to gear it up
On Kybeza. Yeah, maybe they're just pre
Getting it ready for next week. Yeah, I don't know
I mean, there's a lot of classes that have good damage profiles for this fight regardless that don't need buffs to be there
and handshom and warrior, ret paladin,
frost decay very strong, even warlocks very good.
So I don't think you need to go out and like look at gearing a shadow priest for this fight if you're liquid or echo.
But depending on where things go, they might perform pretty decently in this fight for method post buff on Tuesday with that aura buff coming in.
Yeah, we'll see.
Oh no, that's a class that's...
We've talked about it a little bit. It's a hard class to balance for Blizzard, especially when
Your single target damage is just transition to AoE damage for free. So I can click is not okay. Mm-hmm
100% yeah
This odd week or a
Update come out. I got jump scared by Scott dog. Oh, oh, yeah, and they added this horn for the feast
Makes sense because it's the hearty right so you only eat it once every hour
So you really want to make sure you need it eat the feast otherwise you're not getting a food buff for a while
She had Heidi that horn
dinners ready
I haven't heard a two minutes call out actually the entire race so far
I've heard a few you mean from them or from production. I haven't heard the food calling
But well between this poll let's take a look at some transmogs
Alex.
Sure.
TLGG slash rwf dash donate if you'd like to submit your transmog.
Can we get some C-Shunty too?
Oh yeah, yes.
Cue the transmog music.
The Rottor.
I have seen worse.
I certainly have seen worse, but not many.
That's the second person we've seen from I have seen worse.
Maybe it's the same guy.
I was going to say the same guy.
I think it's actually a pretty cool mod, jumps aside.
Me too.
I like it.
I like both of them.
It's still pandaren.
That's cool.
The best strapped thing I'd look and go climb it. I gave it like a 7-7
It's solid 7-7. I'll give it 7. I'm gonna go for
Sorry
The AGS spec of the ages 7-3
Okay, we're runescape build right now. Yeah, they go for that. Yeah
All right. Thank you for your submission. Yeah
Let's check out
What if we're coming up in a moment here?
What's up? I thought they'd be in the mod coming up. I was just too excited for them
I love reading transmogs. As well as pet pictures. I like them both.
I like them both.
You know pet pictures? Yeah.
Let's see if there's any more donation. Anything I can read or is it all...
Oh! Yeah, no. Yeah, it's all pet pictures.
All pet pictures and transmog, which is totally fine.
Oh my gosh, we actually, we did get a dad joke. We got a singular dad joke.
Alright. Ooh.
Alright, you ready?
Let's hear it. Sure.
This is from Divv, ten dollars.
Thank you so much, Divv.
Did you hear about the strike at the Rolex factory?
No.
Uh, something about, like, watching striking 12s in my tent?
The union boss said it was about time.
Oh, my gosh.
I think I should have gotten that one, too.
I know, I was surprised you didn't guess it.
Mmm.
Yeah.
Seven out of ten.
Oh, we're raiding the dodgy.
Yeah, because it got me.
It is all right now.
A little bad.
I was taking a sip of my monster while processing the, uh, rank there.
Oh, what's bad I just don't I don't like that because I'm gonna be honest. Well that just agree. It was like a partial riddle to it
Kind of was yeah, okay. Yeah, it was
Let's get more. Yeah, did you ever watch the movie from like the 90s called Starkid?
No, had a really well-known joke in it. What do you call a cow with no legs? Yeah
ground beef
I heard a variation of it from my flight attendant the other day
Oh, no, what do you call a cow with two legs?
Lean beef oh
Are you flying Southwest?
Even though they got rid of like their their weird seating thing
They've still kept the the spirit of Southwest. Oh, is that a spirits joke Southwest?
No, it was not but that's funny. No, they got rid of their like choose your own seat policy
Hey, what?
Yeah, you know.
You pay for it?
Or like, no.
Huh?
You pay for a seat?
You get in a sign seat, no.
Southwest...
You can't choose at all.
You can pay for it?
No, no.
Okay.
So Southwest, it used to be you would buy a ticket and then when you boarded, you
were just boarded in an order and you just chose to sit wherever you want.
Bro.
At the time of boarding.
I know, I hate it.
That's why I never flew.
I would never fly that ever.
It's me anxiety.
Yeah.
And recently, they've now made it more traditional like the rest of the airlines
and...
They've said they're going to make it more traditional.
Oh, they haven't...
They're starting doing that next year.
I see.
OK.
So you still, you still are.
Yeah, I still, I just upgraded.
I just looked 25 bucks for an upgrade and sat in the next
at sea.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I flew Delta out and the attendant spilled water
over my leg while I was sleeping.
Wait, I'm sorry, is he there yet?
I flew Delta out and the attendant spilled water
over my leg while I was sleeping.
He dropped a bottle of water off the cart.
How did these things always happen to you, man?
He gave me three miles in a gift card.
All right, they can dump it all up again if you want. I'll take some more miles. Sure. That was great
It's quite a bumpy flight out though. I had a little worse head and home
But I didn't okay flight. I need this race to last longer anyway, so why is a hurricane coming to Florida is there?
Oh, yeah, there is I don't want to fly through it. Yeah
Well, I mean, I don't think they're gonna make you fly through it if if there's a hurt
I don't think they're allowed. I want to go home too. I like being here
But I don't hang out in Cali my half got to the swamp needs me of course
You go too long from out without the swamp water and you start to sort of shrivel up.
My powers are draining I feel.
I actually can imagine how scary it must be for you to be out here because like your
apartment could be run over by gators any day.
Well I'm on a higher floor, yeah it could be.
They have to work their way up the floor is obvious.
Yeah, patio doors unlocked actually so if you want to come in feel free.
Oh boy, don't say that out loud.
I am on a high real fast.
Go ahead, go ready.
I'm on a high floor.
Somebody scale off this building like Spider-Man. You deserve it. I feel free. Alright, I don't care.
Okay, careful with that statement.
Anyway, it's not on log, it's fine.
Alright, let's look at some more transmogs between these poles here. Here's Meth-E.
There we go. We got our transmog music.
I like the felt green tinting here, but I feel like the row needs more green.
I don't mind it though.
So good that is good. I like it. It matches 8.1 8.1
Sorry, I was what I've been to the music
With the harvester site from
Yes, a little like red and green sort of
Eric our vat going on
Look a 7.7. All right, it's course
We're by music. Oh, thank you Matt. Well the pool started Matt this
I am Mathis.
Mathis, thank you, appreciate it.
Oh, the camera guy is chasing Lunar around.
Gotta get the shot.
Gotta get the shot.
Alright, back into pole 112 here.
Uh, Zyro, do you...
So, I'm gonna give you a number here.
You need to tell me over or under.
Put aside your ridiculous prediction.
I want to hear your answer within two seconds, alright?
Oh my god.
262, over.
333, over.
I don't like you anymore.
You're going for your thousand prediction.
555.
Probably under.
Okay.
Alright, so what are you thinking with the actual prediction here?
I don't know.
I'm just going to answer things to see what you did.
Whatever.
I've got good news.
Yeah, that's that.
We have a couple more dad jokes.
Are we ready?
Okay.
This is $10 from Caddy's.
What did the fish say when he swam into a wall?
Nothing. GM can't speak.
Damn.
Still can be. Sammy, come around. Come snuggle.
She's locked in. Oh, Milo's over there.
Sammy.
Alright, let's look at the transmog real quick.
Sure.
Oh, here's our-
Oh, this is the token you want to transmog. Alright, here we go.
Is there one weapon?
Isn't this almost the exact same outfit except for the weapon as what we just had?
I think so.
This weapon in a warglave?
Is that why it looks like this?
It's a tailon, yeah.
I think it is.
I am so sorry, I hate that.
What?
Tailons?
No, no, no.
The one warglave thing, it's weird.
I think it's all right.
Is that curse vision?
Is that Legion artifact weapons?
I'm pretty sure.
I give it like a 7-7.
I'm not a huge fan of like that's the normal like Legion D.H.
from all over.
Yeah, I'm not a fan either.
I'll go 6-8.
I don't give a 6 as long.
I feel bad.
I feel bad.
I feel bad.
I mean, they know what they're signing up for.
I guess.
And you know what, anything's gonna be nice in the Tettles, so keep that in mind.
Tettles is wild with his ratings.
And he does not apologize for it.
No.
He just picked a number from 110.
$30 is the Transponk rating, by the way.
That or PED picks that, yes.
That too? As well?
Let's try to keep the dad jokes also to 30, so we don't get overwhelmed by them.
Sure.
Yeah.
It's all for good cause though.
It is for a good cause. It is.
Alright.
You said you had one more?
I have one more. It is true.
Alrighty.
Uh, this one is from Manzend.
What has two butts and kills people?
Uh, I...
There's a lot of jokes here that I...
You want to think about it?
There's a lot of things, actually.
Something about this boss, maybe?
An assassin.
Oh, that's a pretty decent one.
pretty good action
noted at the end of the drawing contest that's still pretty good
still pretty good okay
that's a good way to do we have the ruffalo mode enabled in our chat
i don't actually know
i'm not sure it's a little minion spitting up popcorn and laughing
i don't know working
it's not working
me to accept
i need to fix that
that's pretty good
maybe a maybe a mailman can get it
always man access more tools in my view oh my gosh whoa don't do that right now
we should do a you know what would be honestly kind of fun but we'd have to
obviously play it nicely would be um well it used to be kind of a really
common content fun on banning people oh I'm better quest on better
that would be kind of funny a lot of them are obviously gonna be just
absolute toxic and shouldn't be shown on broadcast but I imagine some of them
are kind of silly yeah there are no unbound unbanned requests though
we could change that real fast yeah let's do this one here blizzopticon
says can I please get on band from max's stream all right let's go see what
they said live right now we're doing an unbanned request go over to push
We're going to look into it.
My unbanned app was denied.
Oh no!
Who?
It was our camera guy.
No.
Hey, hey, where are you going? Get the building! Get over here!
Oh.
Where are you going?
He's new, man.
Get the building!
No, that's good.
We will rebuild it.
We will rebuild.
Stronger.
He didn't knock it out.
He's filming his own carnage.
I love it that bad at all. I don't think don't die. That's fine. Poor guy. It's okay. Okay
Speed kills. You're too faster though. It's one-way street. Be careful. Oh
Luna's looking for a ball. Where'd her ball go?
I might have gone to the chair. She's a little nerf. Oh, what's happening? Hi Luna. He's looking for a ball
Where's your ball? Where'd her ball go? I don't know. I think it's in between the chairs. I don't see it
No, it's a bag of skittles in the floor. I don't see a little ball over here
She's very distraught right now.
I actually don't know.
Oh, there we go. Don't worry, Luna.
We're getting it for you.
See the pure anxiety in her eyes.
There she is.
Oh, it's a beat all day.
Oh, there she goes. She's got the ball.
They're still digging out here for this job.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're working on it.
It depends on what he said if I'm going to...
Oh, yep, yep, here we go.
Here we go.
This is toxic, but not too toxic that I can't read it out loud.
This is a live on-band request. You ready?
Sure.
The person who got asked to be on-band says,
Max, how does it feel to be extremely washed compared to EU?
Another one.
I mean, EU works harder and wins everything.
It's not even a debate or anything.
And then they got banned.
What's the date for this?
This was...
Two years ago.
It's Boston.
Yeah, so...
Let me sample up here.
That's gonna be a hard no!
You will not get on band. Oh, no, no, we
It's not up to us. Let the chat decide. Oh, oh, you're right. You're right. You're right. Okay, so a poll of your peers chat
What do you think?
Chat yes, or no
Nope, huh a lot of the night that is a resounding no, I'm so sorry
I'm so sorry
Really unfortunate for you
yep
The people have spoken. I don't make the rules
Well, maybe we should focus on this pole because we are in the final phase
and the boss is
Pretty low
Yeah, we're about to be in the final phase. We're in the second intermission. So we're getting there yet
Both get pretty low here. This is actually the lowest push we've seen into this burrow shield phase
We have on the beetle boss here 45 point three essentially a little bit of now yoyo in there
because both share health with them during this fight, but this shield should be broken momentarily.
I don't see LUS committed here as well. I don't believe everyone else.
We're going to get some odd debuffs in a certain spot, which means we're likely holding for that next charge.
So once this shield is broken, the burrow phase will end, and the boss will essentially pull everybody in the middle of the room.
Root everybody. The player needs to hold three roots to root the boss similar to phase one.
Exactly the same thing as phase one, when he charges the wall.
When that is done, he'll be stunned, takes more damage.
After that, we'll be in the Poland, and then instead of the actual route happening again, you will have a set of Penta Dispels, which will be 500 of the boss.
And if that happens successfully, that'll be a new Crog point, in which we'll see both of those overlapping simultaneously.
But this boss is about 3% lower than it was last time we were here heading into that phase.
We do lose Atlas and Lip here. No res available. We can keep going for a little while here.
There's a lot of downtime between these boss ultimates, if you will, in this fight.
Yeah.
You have to see a couple of dead players, but not too bad so far.
We can see they've got setups for mates in their notes already, so when you see things
like stack up on player, that's for making sure everyone gets charged in the exact same
plus.
A spot when you get pulled through the boss.
They also have notifiers on each of the players as to whether or not they need to
hold on to their webs.
You can see they have the three webs needed to break this here.
Just have to make sure they dodge those burrows on the ground.
They're going to be good to go.
That is the stun on the boss.
Once again for the team, they get a little bit of a damage amp phase here.
I don't believe too many cooldowns will be up for this one because they just got through
that shields phase in the second intermission.
But that being said, a pretty good poll so far, still 15 players left alive, have some
votes they need to clear here.
Because this is something they're going to have to figure out.
So after the stun on the boss, after the stun on the beetle in this phase,
the skin spinner will port to a random spot in the room and start channeling yet
another pull. I believe this time on the opposite group from the first one, and they need to have
their positioning set up to where that second group won't get pulled through any one of the
opposite color. This is the prog point for them right now. They haven't gotten through that with
everyone alive yet. If they do get through that with everyone alive, then they can go into the
next part of the phase, which is going to be those dispels that you were talking about.
Yep, that five dispel under the boss, and that will likely buy them about another
half a minute or so on the boss. Like a lull, like a breeding area, we can burn
the boss to get some more damage in, but 37.7 on the clock for that pull. Very similar last pull,
which they live to, I believe, 7.30, so you can see damage come up already a bit compared to that
last prog point about half an hour ago. But, like I mentioned, if they get that pen to dispel done,
the overlap we really want to see is when you have to stop the boss charging the wall
with six players, three webs, while also simultaneously dispelling under the boss at
at the same time. The reward, both of these done at the same time, so a large damage amp
on both bosses taken there, but doing that is easier said than done by a large margin.
Absolutely. This last phase is going to be a lot of puzzle solving and mechanic figure
outing for positioning. Is that a new locker? The GIF?
Yep.
Is that lifting?
Do you say GIF or GIF?
I say GIF.
They got mad at the shirtless Atlas, so we had to change it out from what I understand.
Who they check out mad. So why is there a naked guy on the screen?
Which Atlas has no shirt on. Wow. Okay.
It might still be there. Nope, it's still there. It's right there.
Yeah, there we go. They hope it still is perfect message.
We make the calls here. It works hard.
Exactly. Relax. Yeah.
I run with that. Yeah.
You can't admire someone else's physique. Where are you in the world?
Right? Are you flexing right now?
You try to I'm leaning back in my chair.
I got the gym in a week. Oh, yeah, you Jim
Yeah, what do you what do you what's your like rotation? What's your routine every day?
Wait, oh, okay. Oh, I mean, I look at that. Yeah
Rocking my life
liquid apparel, uh-huh. I'm here on our Alienware laptop trying to find a
Some more dad jokes, but I just don't see you and tilt to fight
Well, we can change that.
Well, we can't, but they can.
If you guys want to send us some of your bad dad jokes,
or potentially some pet pictures, or transmunks for us to roast or enjoy on stream,
you can do that.
Or if you'd like to match Zyronik here, or Kalamazie,
tell.gg slash store, and you can take a look at some of the race world first apparel.
We've got the liquid guild shirt that Kalamazie, or that Zyronik is wearing.
We've got a sweatshirt.
We've got a jersey, mouse pads.
And then the hoodie that Kyle Masi was wearing is from the Star Wars collection. It's very nice. Yes
Yeah, I have part of the collection at home as well. I like it very much. Which ones do you have?
I saw a bad one. Oh, I don't remember exactly. I think I have most of it though.
I remember I got it and I wore it for three days and put it in the wash.
I don't want to wash this a million times because I want to like preserve it.
That's how much you like it? I do like four shirts. I wear it on normal occasions and they get worn down.
I want to preserve these shirts. I put them away in the dresser. I'll wear them on nicer occasions moving up in the world
Okay, okay
There's a question in chat that I don't know the answer to because I kind of want to know it too
That's why it stood out to me. Is there any way to get previous raster world first merger?
Are these like one-time deals? There is actually a way to get previous raster world first merch
We are doing a giveaway right now if you know that gg slash my blue and you complete the quest for the liquid guild derp shirt
It's a it's like an in-game item that you can put on your little my blue guy
And then you can be entered for a chance to win
It basically all of our past race the world first apparel with team liquid since we've been looking like what they got a whole
Plethora of it there. That is the only way that I know of to get past apparel
But yeah deal.gg slash my blue if you'd like to check it out. I don't know
Maybe they'll do a sale or something of a couple of those apparel drops
Some yeah, kind of sad about it because some of them are really cool. They are very cool. They're very cool, too
They're the apparel team does a great job. What's that mouse pads also very cool this one these ones? Well, they're all actually really cool
I've even gotten this one these ones are my favorite. Yeah. Hmm. I have D both being hearts winding still at home
I don't know which one I'm rock. I think I got an alien where mouse pattern now
Nice. We go where it came from. Yeah, look we've got Shaq is sporting the hoodie
very nice, that's a
big poppy actually big poppy excuse me or little stick hmm or donkey gary or
donkey gary or domey bucket or something like that yep the bucket I remember
remember that like Matthew yeah I'm pretty sure the bucket made less
appearance I think see ribbons back there he's wearing the jersey Atlas flame
JPC spot from last race oh yeah where's kids he's just keeping it yeah
Who's spot? Oh, JPC. I gotta be laying JPC. It'll be back at some point. Maybe possibly this hoodie is not available
technically because
THD's mom put a zipper on that
Custom apparel piece right there. That's you true looks good though worked out. That's very nice
We'll say look at some trans box in the meantime while we're waiting on this next poll to go
This is she Moana. Oh
Oh, yep. Also, young dip.
Oh, young dip? Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot in there.
Oh, thank you, production.
Ahh!
Thank you.
I mean, this does not look like a shaman.
No, it looks like a plate road.
I'm not getting shaman.
Oh, look at this. It's kind of got a fire elemental vibe to it.
Yeah, but it's a rest-up shaman.
8.1, I think. It's not bad. Oh, my goodness.
Maybe this is a tasteful play on how in BFA,
Hey, rest of shamans were actually battle healers and they would just pass lava burst a lot because they'd run triple igneous potential and do a ton of damage
Sure. You want to give it some background lore?
I'm gonna go 9.1
9? 0.1?
0.1. What?
They even have the master of the ways title showing they're not just healer. They're doing damage too.
Yeah, you're right. Okay, I'll go with it.
Alright, here's the next one.
Ooh, we got a druid here. This is very druid-y. I like it.
Then our troll.
Zerloom.
I will give this an eight
Yeah, it feels like a tiny bit like BFA leveling
Asked to me the chest and shoulders do I don't work on the room. I think it's a bad thing
I think it's kind of seven nine. It's kind of it looks like they're going for a sort of
They're like a new B.C. vibe. They're a vibe. Okay. All right. Look at seven point seven
I'm repeating, of course.
Oh, yeah.
I don't mind that.
Yeah, they give you a reason to mission.
Yes, indeed.
Qui-Gon Jinn.
Whoa.
Currently offline.
You get Star Wars.
Yeah, my apparel matches this character's name.
Look at that.
It's a panda.
I like the hat.
It's bent backward.
It means you're running very fast.
Is there a lightsaber in the game?
There's some swords and Xerath and Morris look lightsaber-esque.
I swore there was like a Star Wars.
Star Wars maybe they got rid of it it was for Star Wars day. Oh, I don't know. Actually a while ago
I'm not sure. I like this one. That's a I rarely ever give mage's of eight because they're disgusting, but I'll give this an eight one
Okay, eight one
I'm on I'm on that same barriers you here, Colomazzi. I'm thinking seven nine on my end. Okay. That's all right
I'm amazed himself
He has higher standards than I had different ages, so that's fair. All right seven nine works, too
All right, there we go, check out the next one.
This one is a pole.
Oh, my bad, okay.
They've added in the record scratch.
Somebody asked me where the boss's health is basically going up and down a little bit
in the actual frame down below.
The bosses share health.
So what's likely happening is, I'm not sure exactly how the overlay works, some sort
of AI, Skynet stuff, but it's likely checking both the boss's health frames and not updating
at the exact second, having a little bit of,
going back and forth, but
within a reason, they're at the same health threshold.
So you might see a little bit of an intermission.
My guess is actually, it's not that.
My guess is that it's probably
predicting what kind of damage the boss will be taking
based off the amount of
damage they've been taking over these bulls.
Like, the average of the bull.
And if it's ever higher or lower than that, it might
readjust to compensate.
There's a lot happening a lot whenever they, uh,
whenever they're in cooldowns and whenever they're out of cooldowns.
I've also had a problem with this boss with Weakor as being a little funky when one jumps away.
Have you had that?
I know.
Not sure.
It like partially tracks buffs and effects I have on one target when it leaves the arena.
It's confused and can't track them both. It's sort of funky.
It probably a mix of a handful of things.
But either way...
We're probably just all completely wrong.
Yeah, it's just Skynet.
I'm sure Chat will...
Just Skynet. It's fine.
Skynet doesn't matter anymore.
Give us a couple days, it won't matter anymore.
Nah.
Skynet.
Oh, no I know why it's messed up.
it's because they so originally we just had one guy putting in all the numbers
updating them manually he's sourced that out to several different people so
it's kind of updating them all also they're all up in every point one yeah
saying so that's there's fighting for supremacy very nice okay hmm
I got a drought outside fight for retesting videos on YouTube okay
right as I invite me to test in this group very nice individual we both
scramble to end streams the moment it's over and we'll often raid one another to like poke fun at each other for
Oh, you're stuck with these viewers now. You can't push your video before mine. Haha. Wait, who does that?
Dreadnust and I. Wait, that's actually so funny. We both scramble to get the videos up first. Yeah.
That's so funny!
Yeah, that's good.
One day he won't invite me.
He's been... I don't get it. Why can't you just upload the video while you're streaming?
Technically I could actually, but it scuffs your algorithm on YouTube very badly if you do so.
Wait, really? Oh, because you're live on YouTube.
Oh, if you're also live on YouTube. Yeah, because it's pushing to both your stream and your upload,
and I upload in 4K, so it probably scuffs random things here, and I don't know.
I got five, but I probably have something. I'm not sure.
Tell-a-ma-ze is my dream lock, player, says Chat.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
It's called Brady of Warlock.
I am sorry.
It's truly a man's dream building. Absolute chaos, both throne stud. God, he's perfect. And he saved my grandma from a burning building.
Who said this?
A lot of people. That is a copypost of it.
By the way, Kalamazoo, thanks for letting me use your Lambo the time to the airport.
No problem, brother.
Yeah.
You filled up the BMW in my back, though?
You left the Lambo at your house. You got the B-MRO from last time though, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, nice.
Of course.
You've got premium this time, I thought I'd set it last time.
Oh, you set it for your hire. Very nice.
Okay.
Hmm nice
Thank you chat, I don't know who started this with thank you. It's gotta be legend something likely or tentals wanted to does anyone have the
venerate smiles
cosplay
Oh, I have no idea start that with with calamazine. That'd be fun. What is that?
I don't know. Well, someone will find it. It'll come
I don't smell very often.
It's a fun copypasta, I promise.
I'm not seeing it yet, though.
I don't smell anymore.
There we go.
There it is.
OK, now change it to Kalamazoo.
Quick chat.
What are we looking at?
The nerukis smile brightens my day.
If I have a sad day, I just watch the neruky.
The neruky have good day, so do I.
I love the neruky, and I hope he keeps smiling
so we can all have good day.
I thought it was on stream.
It is on stream.
Stream chat.
Okay, I thought it was like a freak show.
Yeah, that's what it is.
Alright, well in the meantime, while I work on this copypasta, we're gonna head into a monster energy.
What's the name?
I actually don't even think the double damage amp set is hard.
I think the hardest part of that phase is actually the gateway ducts.
Like, because the double damage amp is just a red on the wall,
blue
In the middle you just do a suck just like we do at the beginning of phase that's super easy and then
You just the boss charges to the middle and then once he's in the middle you just do
You just do the dispells during the damage amp like no one's in the side of the boss's hitbox
They're just both pixel stacked on each other. I guess that's one thing is like the red the red webs will have to like
You don't want them to stop on the edge. You're gonna want them to go in the middle
like you're gonna have to like move off us to like spawn him but I mean I guess
you're preparing for a double fucking dama jamp in lust like that's fine
alright let's go again really good until p2 and then it was not great I'll just
remind to like go far for the upcoming sucks
What are you doing right now?
Watch out.
I'm gonna show you what's in the opening here.
I will have your skulls!
Your knives are forfeit!
Okay.
First aid now.
Clear.
Boss is burrowing.
Big blastin'.
That ad doesn't care about ring at all.
That ad doesn't care about ring at all.
That ad doesn't care shit about ring.
I'm fucking going off
Couldn't imagine what that would have been
Leave it on me Scott
As here and rain
My mom's
Rotating in now
Yeah, Code Red on red there's three of them
We got them I think
Damn we sold the code red
I
Don't have that
Mountain Dew flavoring your kid live wire. They said that shit
That was loud did your mic peak when you scream
Remember when you guys punch my well, it's kind of yeah
I thought I'm trying to say it's it
Live wire was worse to go red for sure
Do not greed and die. I don't want to blow up
Please parables
weird
Do orbs
We need a blue soap back here. That's being pinged being pinged anyone can
Gonna blow up here. Goodbye
Guys, please fucking stop stop it
Got it, yeah
but it's a range group so it can't really be recovered
I don't know, I feel like that one must be saying this
I guess I'll just take care of where we move
No, let's not go
You have, by the way, let's go left, none should be easy as fuck
For reference? You have 10 seconds to soak that blue oil
I think I saw you there anyway
Right?
Yeah
You don't even need to be fucking close to that thing
They're wider, yep
Please no blow up
Go blueee
I think I understand why they nerfed the health twice.
Like, they nerfed it once, but then we still chose to one tank, which maybe tells them that
we felt like we must have still had to do it rather than that it was just easy.
You know?
We should keep it.
We had to.
We did have to.
We got just this one tank every fight for non.
Just bring like a couple shoppers and APT to fucking thank fuck it.
Fuck it.
This little 23 million physics just bucket thousand rings out and see what's up
Hey web bombs here rotating now
So really far right Lord be careful knock the scare bin
There's still one right away. Oh, we got it. Yeah
Rain and then we're rotating on blue here. Good day
Okay, it's further in hot spot.
Take it back in 7.
Okay, spreading here.
The Zad's in front of us well.
Did just swap targets.
Oh, that was in the water.
Yeah.
Rotating 3, 2, 1, now.
First holds those ends.
All things are blowing up in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, now.
Damn.
annoying why why have the other boss poured away right when everyone's popping
gold like just why it's gonna be too nice that's why it would be too much fun
they're new bit which is to make them just jump around
they pissed yeah same as they man hey don't breathe the fucking pizza slice as
I beg and plead it actually really helped by the way on the second set of
ads that you don't over rotate like just stay there stay there blue side
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fun that shi-
You know what I mean? By the way, I'm almost positive this is exactly the same every time.
Yeah, it is, it is. One up or something.
The three?
That's a big amount, like, to remove the knuckle.
And, move in. Make sure he's so close to losing the boss there, you guys?
Yeah.
The blues are stuck here, and that almost blew up.
Be careful, be really careful with stacks. Be really careful of what?
We're not even trying to push damage in this game.
Goddamn, but you're not going to stack a three.
You're going to pull the blue up across the stack.
Stockless, bro.
Yeah.
I'm going to put that off.
OK.
I'll get the other one, OK?
You ready for positions?
Range your max range, your max range, your max range.
As soon as you get sucked, you turn around.
Good.
Same thing for reds.
It's not bright.
Good.
Now we're out of the circle.
We're getting debuffed soon as well.
Watch your HP here.
Ads are spawning.
Get them under the boss.
So orbs, shack under the boss in 3, 2, 1.
Now, freak one of the boss in 3, 2, 1.
Impact under the boss in 3, 2, 1.
Atlas during the frontal, three, two, one.
And Sang, we're gonna delay to the end here.
Sang is in three, two, one, now, blast.
That's definitely the most optimal for damage
to do it that fast.
I'm fucking rafgotting that shit.
We're fucking owning right now.
All right, we are getting two frontals
in which each group is moving to the left on,
which you guys should be just back up here
to spawn these frontals.
And in the box, it's teleporting,
and then we're running to the boss.
pretty sure reports the same spot every time yeah you ready three two one go to
the boss different side figured out I'd literally mean that I could make it up
yep get back back back back then
very careful of what yep we have we have we have some murderers yeah it's fine
get your divas the Gorbs we can reslet clear good and Hardian three two
one before the port fired up three one exile your back in the middle fired up
I think it's fire up.
It's fire up.
It's fine.
X-Ius, 3, 2, 1.
Flatten, 3, 2, 1.
I didn't slide it up.
I'd be f'ing f'ing.
Dangan, 3, 2, 1.
Zevian, 3, 2, 1.
Nope, it got spelled on the track.
I tried to hit it from it, so.
Ooh.
I thought I didn't know I was going to slip,
and then I just fell as soon as I...
That felt better than 8 seconds.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, fired up, just assumed he was going to get dispelled
and moved off of the boss before he got dispelled.
Oh, that timing's just tight for me.
Like, it falls off, like,
Yeah, I have the debuff until it happens. Yeah, okay, it's fine.
Great block there. I mean, I got the spell right?
Yeah, it was just the res there. The res went off, I don't know exactly how the GCD on
Valveras works, but the res on Lyft went off as I'm saying 1 and then it took 3 seconds
after that to get dispelled and he moved all the way out. It was just a terrible
to sell as all was. Shouldn't it move to us? I just... I think it is perfectly fair to assume that
we're going to be dispelled when we're calling it. Yeah. Come on guys. No, no, no.
Are we taking... Huh? No. It says early dinner.
I'm sure we'll be able to do something from the pull-in section.
Very hungry.
People do wrong with that.
We're in the wrong way.
I don't know.
There was a state line up blue.
It was sketchy.
What are we talking about?
Before the dispelling.
Oh, people did that.
Yeah.
That's so funny.
Yeah, it was sketchy.
What are we talking about before that the spell like, oh,
the first time ever the boss went to a different spot.
So usually what happens is the boss ports here, right?
The boss, the boss ports here and then red is like, it's gone there,
like multiple times are out and red is close and blue just goes after the
frontal, but now it did this side.
So what would happen is looking at the group.
So blues the first suck here. So blues getting sucked you would look at red and then go left and right
So your orientation is going to be at the red group
And then the red group is going to get sucked in and move
Front right front left towards your orbs
Here all blue people should look at the red team and then this
And this would be left. I could just run out this this would be left and this would be right
And I think I'll go to the wall. Yeah, there was a lot of a lot of confusion
I'm just saying like the way you pointed out now they correct actually went all the way to the side of the boss store, okay?
I'm okay. I'm confused now. Let me see
So right here. I'll just reiterate it again. We get we're getting sucked from blue so blue
So blue is the right side of the boss store
Okay, I'm okay. I'm confused now. Let me see. So right here. I'll just reiterate it again
We get we're getting sucked from blue. So blue is here and red is there
There's red. So well, I guess they got all the way to the ball. Yeah, they're kind of walking all the way
That's what I meant. So now it's like to the wall ocean to the right. Yeah, so now it's kind of like
Yeah, like like this situation and then and then it's easy for blue
So did anyone just go in the total wrong spot? Like I'm assuming is that what happened?
Yeah, I think I would.
Yeah, if you watch my pub you'll see the traffic jam.
There was a fucking traffic jam. There was a red alert.
Well, I mean that's kind of fair. We got baited into thinking it poured into the same spot
every time because it actually did like ten times in a row.
Now it's guaranteed only two spots.
Which is also by the way the chance of flipping a coin in it landing on heads ten times in
row is like insane so I'm assuming that it's like like final fantasy random where it's not
maybe you ever rate in that game there's a bunch of like it can be one or the other and it will do
it'll just do one like 20 times in a row so it's not really random do you think it's good maybe to
just uh buy the font a lot of the markers and then wait oh yeah this made no sense yeah this so
were you guys lefters little stick flip and I mean I'm like usually usually I'm right but I had
I still have the weak word that tells me top left, so I went there, but I disabled it.
I said I wanted that gone 20%
Yeah, I disabled it, that way I don't get confused.
Yeah, everyone disabled, I just couldn't make the word myself correctly.
Disabled, the text is never being used.
Is it called it?
The text is a good five.
Wait, why is it ticked? Why are we not going top left, top right?
Because everyone's always going the same direction and so you do not need text to tell you which direction you're going.
At worst, you just...
We're still going top left, top right.
Do you think Max is good to just bait the front all the way from the markers and then we stay on the markers and then whether it
Course left or right both groups are gonna be same distance away from the boss
We can do that
That is perfectly fine. So everyone beats the right of their marker. I
Can call that watch him down. I want dispells to never be messed up ever again. No, I'm in a note. I'm good
I think it's called the web vortex side but maybe not but I think it is but maybe not but I think
yeah I think it's web. The web vortex side sounds exactly like what it would be so that's what it
sounds like but I don't know. The monster rehab line what is what is it rehabbing you from?
Hello everybody welcome back from that monster energy listen in we're heading
into pole 118. Currently our best being 35.75. Had a couple good poles in the, in a row,
but we're still kind of working through some of these mechanics.
Yep, really wanted to hear the answer to that question.
What was the question I was hearing?
Max asked it right before we swapped back to us. So the monster rehab line.
What is the rehab that you're from?
They're the way to properly, in fact the monster's optimally throughout the day
They have talked with us already.
Oh, that is right.
You want to go through that again?
They start the morning off with a coffee.
One of the coffee monsters?
The monster job, though.
Mean beans, something like that.
They're tasty, too.
Yeah, it's not carbonated.
They're not ice.
Exactly.
Not carbonated.
You chug it down.
No bubbles.
No, no, like this.
But they're not carbonated?
No.
I need to try them.
Yeah, they're good.
I thought they were carbonated for the longest time,
which is why I didn't drink one.
And then I had one, and I was like, oh my god.
Yep.
It's like an iced coffee and a bottle.
It's delicious.
new rolls around hit it with a full monster. I got a specific punch right here
carbonated some fruit juice some sugar that's a full on in the evening hit it
with a recovery shot one of those covers strawberry lemonade strawberry sweet tea
something like that lemonade sweet tea you're recovering from your long day
I want to point out for legal purposes Kalamazoo is not a licensed
It's not nutritional information.
Take his advice with a grain of salt.
Yeah, it's 4-demand advice, but you know, yeah, I'm still here performing optimally.
Would you stop?
Let's go.
Apparently, there was a new one that came out today.
That's not it.
It was called, but we don't have it here yet.
Oh!
It was like a guava monster.
I think they actually are here.
Oh, are they?
I think I might have one day one.
They sent me a couple of new ones at home.
I had like 90 monsters in my closet at home.
Very good.
Like five in the fridge, I would hit them through.
The ray testing, it's very good.
Very good.
I'm sorry, I just kinda asked a really weird question.
What's that, wow.
Can you not take all EU orders
and when it's a certain amount,
ship all and spread the boxes in EU at IA?
IA, can you do that?
I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with the shipping
And suppliers of monster energy in the European region. I apologize for that. Okay. Yeah
This is all we all have things we can work on you're right. Yeah, oh, oh, get on that. I'll let them know
Three months of the day is actually about that's her like yeah
It's like a blow average for people here. That's a light day for me. I'm trying to say five or six
He said per day. I'm not kidding and he's and he's never had monster
He can stop anytime he wants.
Stratnose, yeah.
How do you really?
I don't think so.
I think he said it was his first time trying him here, and he's addicted already, so...
Oh, good.
Fantastic.
No, no, no, he's not addicted.
He can stop anytime he wants.
Oh yeah, I mean, you know.
Yeah, he's still in control, obviously.
He just stays awake in bed at night, dreaming about that next sip of monster.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It seemed crack when at midnight last night, but that's okay.
He's typically the first one in, the first one out, or last one out.
The counter is awakened.
And energized.
Absolutely. What's your favorite flavor?
Aussie lemonade.
I've converted you?
I've had it, like, for the first time.
Yeah? Okay, okay. Well, this is the...
Aussie lemonade.
I wish it wasn't as carbonated.
It's still very good. I like to, like, just chug it down.
It's so good. The carbonation doesn't really work.
You could open it and let it just sit there for a bit.
Yeah, but then it goes flat on purpose.
I mean, you could. You could.
Ironic what's your favorite? I've been partial to the rehabs. I'm not a fan of the carbonated ones
Okay, that's it. Oh, we're doing a huge shit, but if you survive Sammy, can you speak to me? Come here?
Sammy's following. Yes
Show Sammy. I did it. We have the little cameras. I can shoot can switch and show Sammy on the couch. Hello
This is so please don't leave her. I'm gonna be so hello. You're grumbling. Are you okay? She wants pizza. Okay?
in there like that's okay you know it does it's okay you're good you know oh
hello yep uh yep let's hear this girl see you
you got her paw on my chest all right is everything okay
trying to be concerned about that what are you saying what are you saying Zambia
I'm trying to stabilize she's sitting in an awkward spot but fall back it doesn't look maybe
you feeling comfortable are you uncomfortable you got the trust fall so
like she's just she's got she's fully gripped onto my arm right now using her
little grippers a large tail I don't know if you can see this she is you're the
only thing between her and 40 pizzas right now oh that's so true you chose to
come over here that's so true she did well I mean to be I kind of coax her
over there here to be fair what do you please don't lean back oh my god what
is actually making me you're still awkward you don't know she's like
sitting on her butt like a potato there you go there we go
this is this is quite the uh show here yeah I don't I can't see the screens now
hello ma'am this is this is really nice I needed this thank you so much oh there
we go oh there we go okay we turned around now we're getting comfy hold
on here on my wire man okay all right there we go there we go okay oh we are
so back with ration there we go very nice very nice we love Sammy and Sammy's
here for to see one of our better poles here almost through the second
intermission with that kind of life you have two players dead I said almost
everyone alive aging all right that shield is challenging about to go down
and we can see another good pull into this final phase here you have actually
committed less than this pro phase here which is probably the fact I've
lost two players breaking the shield and time is still within reason
committing less there we do indeed also see Riku go down here but we can
hit one of those two Prague points we're gonna see this boss rooted after this
sort of like half a raid grip comes on you don't it depends what you're assigned
here some players who are weak war on the screen it says like top left top right
keep break if you're assigned the keep assignment you keep that and root the
boss with those free charges very similar to phase one that is the first time
this phase if we can get through that we can possibly reach a Prague point of
the next one being the Pentagon stone the boss a pentastone but
everyone call it. Either way, let's see what we can get through here first, so
there are the grips coming in, getting gripped here, running out, and they run
back in, so if your warp is charged coming in two seconds here, overlapping with
the burrow, which is the hard overlap here we get, thankfully the burrow's
plated on. Mainly we have one, two, three webs, perfect, this is gonna be the route
right at the wall there, boss is done taking additional damage, and the next
mechanical overlap will be the pentason coming up momentarily. They're
gonna get pulled into the skin spinner as well here, so they need to
make sure they're in a situation in such a way that they don't get pulled through the
other color. You can see they're swapping sides and using the gateway port there also
to make sure that they're not stacked on top of each other. Of course that pull-in
will spawn moats that they need to then rotate around and grab while also dodging more
of these circles from the boss. And I mean this is the furthest we've seen them
get. This proc point is so, so difficult for them to get through. Yeah, we see
them implementing that gateway there which sort of gets them out of that spot where
front goes lightly baited because the roots against the wall are where it's likely going to go but
oh wait Sammy look over here oh no oh my goodness look at this nice girl hold on
laptops and there we go okay oh oh well it's time to lay down it's time to lay down she doesn't know
how to like be there we go you can't get comfortable over there yeah the chair made for one it is yeah
She doesn't know that though. It's our chair. So I mean, here's in it
I think something over here. There we go. I suppose the 40 pizza that rolled by a minute ago. I don't blame her. I'm hungry too
She's very distracted on what's going on over here
Trying to get her to
Howl didn't she howl last race? Yeah, she's a song that makes her howl. I forget what it is. Oh
Oh, sorry. My bad. My bad
Hold on. I wonder if I can figure it out. Hold on
pause chat
One second.
I remember that song from last week.
I don't think she can hear that.
Uh.
Can she hear that?
She's kind of making up, trying to lean into her.
Can you hear that?
I thought that was your phone into her mic.
I thought it was Q actually.
No, no.
Where are we pretending that it's her?
Oh, wait, I think it's this one.
There we go.
Wait, wait, wait.
Oh, my gosh.
That's so good.
Aw.
And now Luda's coming to check on her.
Pizza! Pizza!
I know her code.
That was good.
You alright?
She gets a lot of emotions.
I think it's when she's excited,
because if she sees people that she hasn't seen in a while,
that's the noise she makes.
She looked over at Zyra and I and we did it like,
like, in folk, where are they?
She's the one with my people! My people are here!
Same as before.
That was good.
I didn't think she'd do it.
do it? She did. I guess so. You can go over there if you'd like. You don't have to stay here.
You're free. It's her choice. It's her chair. It is her choice. Yeah. Well, while we've got this
beautiful Doug on the screen here, I do want to give a shout out. Well, this is Sammy. This is
from Sammy. Sammy wants everyone to check out the charity fundraiser that we are working towards
here, tilt.gg slash rwf dash donate. We are raising money for the Santa Monica Animal Shelter
And you can help local dogs in Santa Monica and cats with their medical bills with there
are 25 direct capacity right now over there.
If you have 25 dogs that need homes, you can also go to TL.GG slash adopt if you'd like
to, if you're local and you'd like to check out some of their adoptable animals.
We're currently at $15,876 and I heard that we're going to do candy bugs soon.
I think right before death.
U-T-R.
U-T-R.
Kalamazoo bowed out.
I actually can't eat the bugs.
Oh, do they have gluten?
They actually do.
Do bugs have gluten?
I guess whatever stuff they put in them, do they have soy and stuff?
Wheat and some of them?
I can't do that.
Interesting.
Okay.
Also, I think a challenge was issued, because we had Telegon walking by, and of course
for those of you who weren't aware, Telegon is one of our, he's our raider who has
offered himself up for the $25,000 wax challenge, and we're like, hey, why don't you join
us for the bug challenge?
And he said kind of, you know, out of the side of his mouth, well, I'm not
I'm not going to do that because I'm already doing the wax challenge, but we probably won't get that.
So it sounds like he's challenging.
That sounds like a challenge to me, Zyro.
Kind of messed up.
Yeah, he's like, oh, we're not going to get there, shrugged it off.
But that was before we knew he knew how close we were.
We're almost at $16,000.
We've got plenty of time left in the race.
So if you'd like to see.
Telegon waxes leg alongside Ratnose, who was volunteered,
as well as Kai from production, our weird sound guy
As chat has lovingly dumped him
Yeah, let's help us get to $25,000 you're giggling a chat over there. I can't believe come on
I wanted to include him for charity, but it's my sorry
Tell the estimate cancer, but but would you would you have been okay with eating a gluten nut if we spoke? No
I would not at all. I mean I less than I can't risk it or I'd rather live a long life and get cancer
So, you know
I think that's I think that's valid. Oh, look Samuel eat a gluten nut that or a bug probably feed it to her
I'll even enjoy it
Give it a shot
Long asleep
Yeah, Gn yeah, yeah
Sammy helps calm down the Raiders
she's a very important part of the team yeah you see him she she knows she knows
when it's dinner time oh that means I get to sit on someone's lap and take her
food I think it's the other way around the
Raiders hear the dog colors and they're like oh it's dinner time true that could
be it also see the dogs in the building you know food's coming soon mm-hmm
and we've got a pizza party tonight too oh yeah pizza and wings oh yeah wings
this time too yeah yeah right it depends
it's still in oven baked should be fine
so we're gonna possibly yeah I don't know
we'll see there might be some some
contamination though yeah we'll see
maybe hopefully not I guess order food too
the pizza is very good oh sorry
she got upset because I stopped putting her
yeah well that's what happens sometimes I've noticed her leg curve right now
throw it back her head is the yeah there you go wake up what you doing
Don't stop that.
Keep petting.
Keep petting.
She's not ribbons walk by.
She's just, oh.
I'm so sorry, ma'am.
My bad.
I'm so sorry.
Well, if you're just out tuning in, we're taking a bit of a,
not a break, but just kind of waiting for the Raiders to get
back into the pool.
In the meantime, you know, we have one of the,
one of the favorite liquid, team liquid office members here
joining us on the sofa.
So we're just giving her a little bit of attention, of course.
But there's a lot to discuss.
have slowed down, so sorry, between these two poles, or between all of these poles,
especially when you compare it to the chain pulling that we saw at the end of Princess
Kai Vezza, quite a bit of a contrast in terms of pacing.
Yeah, there's a lot to dissect here when you get to the later parts of this fight
with the overlap from Skeen Splinter and the Beetle boss Taz, I think, the big guy
on the small guy basically, with their dual overlap coming with the root as well
as the dispels, and even getting past that point where they root the boss,
You see them implement the gateway strat where that frontal comes at the boss is rooted and they're gating out less
I can getting as much damage in the boss
with dodging the frontal having to go back and stuff orbs and then right after that you've got the dispels coming in
So this is a point where we have I don't believe any guild has reached this point
I mean pretty sure they haven't echo liquid and method up until now
So this is what we talked about earlier one of those parts where you're the first skill here
It's time to innovate and build a strat around what needs to be done, which takes a bit more time
Yeah, now we put up the dinner break timer. So already okay conversation into the dinner break. Yeah
Well, we're gonna see Sammy leaving any minute. She's a go the players are here my duty calls
Oh, well good thing in the meantime. We do have some things that we can do
Good news. We've got some pet pictures that we can take a look at see look
Okay, there we go. She's following ribbons into the kid
All right, let's take a look at Emily the Puppers. Oh my gosh. Wow
Wow.
It's a good day.
Yes, it looks like a fun day.
Yeah.
That is a nice smile.
It looks like a senior dog, too.
Very sweet.
I love senior dogs.
I like it.
I like it.
Emily the Puppers, thank you so much for your submission.
Emily the Puppers, we love...
Ferguson Cartman, Mr. Darcy, and Token.
Oh my gosh.
Oh wow.
Wow, Token is furry.
Look at that whole pack here.
I like the whole pack here.
I know.
Very nice.
Is that two cats, two dogs?
Hmm, these could actually be dogs.
I like it.
Cartman token the cats.
I like this.
Very sweet.
I like when cats and dogs toad this.
I wonder what shows up.
Oh my gosh.
Oh my gosh.
Look at this.
A little bow tie, or a little tie.
That's not a bow tie.
Excuse me.
Mac, this reminds me of something in the office,
actually.
It's very good.
Kind of does, yeah.
I like it.
It's like confusion in those eyes.
It's OK.
I have to keep looking at my eyes most of the time.
Very nice, I like it.
Boyd cats can be a little silly sometimes.
Yeah.
Thank you for your submission, very sweet.
What a gentleman.
Indeed.
Indeed.
Indeed.
Purchasing the cat tree.
Okay, let's take a look at the next one.
Oh, it's a transmog, actually.
Okay, all right.
Cool app.
Needs for cowbell.
Okay.
What bow is that?
No idea.
Fire irons go maybe something like hunter. I remember this one for I think we've had this one this mug
Is both act character in this mod this might be a might be a repeat unfortunately
Well, they're the insane they just submitted twice for a rear view
Might have they might have done it twice. That's they might have been doing that missed their review
Yeah, yeah, or I gave you and I remember why I gave it to you. Oh, um, I like the golden blue
But it just kind of felt like there wasn't a lot going on here. This reminds me of like a classic
Well, it's the going for maybe, you know, so I went for like a 7.7 or something. I think it's like a 7 9
I like the bow. I think
Golden golden bow cloth loss look better here
But I'm partial that bow
I'm partial that bow the shoulders match the bow, but I don't think those match everything else like totally
But that's seven nine. I think seven nine seven nine. I think that's too bad. Yeah, thank you for your submission
30 dollars to our charity fundraiser and you can submit yours. Whoa
All right, there we go. Volatile
Hero of fate all the titles even from actually it's very cool though. No idea body pull that that's my guild the last six weeks or so give or take
One of the boss earlier some reason couldn't tell you why I like this
This is like it screams like like blood mage or whatever to me a bit
isn't like a blood mage somewhere like isn't that what kelpos is like a blood mage with that
i don't know like as the class no well they're like they're like blood mage is somewhere right
yeah that's cool it's like revendreth ash i think it's like a seven nine again i think yeah
somebody tell us where to if you guys recognize where these are from let us know
there's nothing glowing on the bog i like i like things glowing it's sort of kind of glowing
doesn't do it for me kind of like the the kind of whole bog doesn't make sense when you
you consider they're playing frost and it's a frost fire mage.
Apparently it's a full set.
OK, I'm going to go six then.
I want to rate this nice or 6.9.
Oh, not a full set. Some people are saying it's full set.
Some people are saying it's not what or not.
What did you say? 6.9. 6.9.
OK, you like to rate me just lower than you.
Seven nine seven nine.
I like to rate majors lower than they actually are.
It's very odd.
I don't or like maybe he's like bias towards mage mugs being
I don't transmog
So I don't care what class they are
All right, that's fair. Okay. Well, thank you for your submission. Let's take a look at the next one
Wait, what on their mind? Okay? I thought you were the tiger was from but I don't leave a first
We have someone coming in with a first message. It's so ugly
Well, you know, that's an important point to get across you feel that passionate about it
Well, you know, it might not be for you
Yeah, APS war whoa, this is interesting apps war, okay
piss war
All right, anyway level 74 brought warrior look at that from the guild seer. I like this more actually
What is the helmet from the back?
Hmm
Front here see a production
I like it. I like the mace. It's very
Powerful get up. Mm-hmm. It's working. We kind of this purple and gold vibe working
But the top half has no purple and that's like, I don't know. It's a good color scheme
Hmm, and it works well on the light fortune. I which is something we see a lot of oh
Yeah in the heck. That's what I'm saying
Oh, yeah, here we go. There we go. I'm thinking 8.3 here
That's the Legion Warrior Shield, right?
That's amazing!
I like that one, 8.3, I think, 8.3.
8.1, I'll give you an 8.
I'll give you a 9, I love this, this is fantastic.
I like the Helms, I like that Helm.
You're meeting the front party on the back.
Exactly.
Yes, exactly.
Alright, thank you for submission, let's check out the next one.
It's like a space horror helmet, I like it.
Yeah, it's fun, it's a good time.
I can pull it up though, all the way, six more levels.
I can get there.
That was an all-alrighty.
Oh!
Okay.
Okay.
You got a Fire Lord.
Enhancement, enhancement shummon?
Yeah, oh there's wings in the back.
Oh, Teddow's luggage once got a tail.
Okay.
Yeah.
Ah, hmm, like the axe a lot.
Yeah, me too.
Like the axe, the helmet, I think it's a crown of the Fire Lord, right, maybe?
the the way that's the horns from the
first firelands event yeah lands on
old Corvin sure the wings are cool like
the wings actually fit they fit the
colors normally I look at something
like that from the trading post and I'm
like confused a little bit but it
actually works here and I think the
overall looks pretty good
I'm gonna go in the eighths I'm gonna
give you 8.42 that's very well okay
I was 8.3 so I'll stick with that
I'll give it a nine. I like it. I like it. I love a good naked mug.
Yes, my fan. Great solid mug. Especially under your nine.
With a gap. Yo, turn that sucker around. Oh, whoa. This is really good. Wow. Mm-hmm.
This is like screaming Kyrian fantasy to me. Yeah. It's like a darker Kyrian kind of thing.
And they nailed it too. Yeah, it's good. It's really good.
That's one of the rare tabbers, I'm pretty sure, I think.
I think.
I love it.
This is in the 9th for me, this is sick.
Yeah, this is very good.
I love the hair too, and the whole character creation appearances that they chose.
The only thing I wish that was a little cooler is, I don't like the weapon that much.
And the gold might be a little offsetting, yeah, but it matches the border of the
book a bit, like the spine.
Yeah!
Yeah, but it's still pretty cool.
If you look at 9.2, okay? Yeah, I think a 9-1. That's still a monster score by the way
Tabbers from Shadow Mourn, baby
Constantly, I think a 9-1 9.1 is very high very good to spawn threat nose. Would you rate that?
Let's add
That's coming in with the big 10 that works. Yeah pizza in hand. Oh my gosh. I this is this is very very high nine seven
wow it's it's I know it is it's ugly it's fired up it's perfect it's a 10 it
wouldn't look like it's literally it's literally fire a small great he's
submitted or something submitted for him I don't know that probably something else
but like it's great thing about this mom is you can tell how focused it's so
true yeah yeah yeah may chat floaty murloc backpack it looks good I like
that it's gotta give her boy a high score nine seven I will put aside the
You can hide an 8-mage bias for this one. It's very very good. I usually hate a diaper gnome, but I think it works with this
Amen of culture
Indeed glass
Thank you for your submission
hmm
Peak performance indeed. Yeah, this is peak performance
everybody
We got another one no great brought paladin see here of loot
What does no grid mean?
I don't know, I like this.
It's like a pale palladium.
I wish the beard was green,
but at the same time,
that looks good.
Can you make a green beard on a board?
The green glows actually.
The green glowing kind of goes hard, actually.
Yeah, I think it was pretty good.
Wait, is that the light saber that I was talking about earlier?
I don't know, this isn't T-Wiz.
Oh.
I mean, that's from Xeroportis.
I think it is, then it's therefore it's sort of pretty sure.
I think it is.
I like this one.
I think it's the 8.9.
8.9, okay.
Very nice.
I think the shoulders could have done a little cooler, but all in all, pretty solid.
Very good, yeah.
I'm going to do 8.6.
8.6, okay.
I'll give it an 8.
All right, here we go.
Let's check out the next one.
Ew.
Bruh.
Bruh.
Fam.
Now that sounds?
Bruh.
Bruh.
Family.
Bruh.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
I like this one. You don't see Toren and Mogs running off, and the mace is good.
True.
I feel like as far as the shield matches the mace relatively well, the shoulders look good.
Yeah, I think it's like an 8-3, so it's solid.
It is solid. It's hard to make a Toren not look stupid.
Hmm.
Beefy. That's not a pun.
I don't like hearing that.
Oh, sorry. Do you play Toren?
Listen, I'm not a big fan of Toren.
They can stomp things though.
The giant shoulders are kind of
Weird to me. It's fair for male or two. I'm just not a big fan
There's a full set so oh, I mean I don't know like I don't
Necessary hate full sets of their fine. They look good. Let's good
But I feel like it's not as inspired as like, you know building on your own, right?
So I am not against I'm not against full sets either. I am in the context of
Rating your transmog
Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's not a transmog really. Well, it's a mug. It's like
That's fair. Yeah, there's no vision. You're taking someone else's vision. Well, you know, I've got a rating for this
I've got to find my rating for this. Oh, okay. No, I don't do something on his phone for a rating
Not sure what we're doing
Can't see what he's searching. Oh, don't worry about it
Well, in the meantime, while he looks that up, you can head over to keel.gg slash rwf-donate.
Send us $30 along with a link to your armory, or you can also submit your pets with a link
to your pets.
Yeah.
I'm seeing a couple of comments that are saying like, I submit to $10 earlier, I didn't
know it was 30.
If you submit like a screenshot and a link to your transmog, we can-
20 bucks more and 20 bucks more yeah whatever the other addition was yeah
I for points easy for the people that are our track of this you know send us
the receipts along with the money that you're missing and we'll get you in
there yeah deal them in another year yeah yeah or that that we're got my rating
for this all right what is it I'm gonna rate this two clear oils and one sepia
oil I don't okay there's RP stuff I don't know sure but the path of the
like selling it.
Over my head, sorry buddy.
How do you guys know that instantly?
Because there are people in chat that already know whatever.
There's a huge overlap with Path of Exile players and World of Warcraft players.
We don't expect that.
Yeah, they're all so angry at the beginning of the play.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that too.
Yeah.
Professor Game and Chair, Stormrage, no pants party but you're wearing pants
literally.
That's a that's a conflicting
Routing my immersion. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. I mean, I think you can't go higher than eight this point. I'm gonna go
Seven seven like the map in the belt, but you're wearing pants and no pants. Okay
Mm-hmm. I'm gonna give it a seven the backpack to myself like that
You can't be in a guild called no pants party and you're wearing
Yep
Like the name though game and chair
Yeah, there you go.
Fantastic.
I do too.
Well, we have quite a bit more to get through, but we will get to them eventually, we promise.
Thank you so much in the meantime, everyone, for submitting your transmogs and also pictures
of your pets.
Like I said, if you'd like to submit yours, you can go to till.gg slash rwf-donate, of
course.
We are close to, well, we got $15,000, so we're close to our next one, which I
believe is $20,000.
On our way, yeah.
I know what it is.
I forget what it is.
What is Twitch chat going to play production?
I don't know what that is.
I don't know they don't even have the technology yet. What are they doing?
They haven't told us
Yeah, they don't tell us that they're in my oh, they're in my ear saying stay tuned with that for the dinner break
Okay, so soon
Anywhere on break because we will be fulfilling that incentive shortly. I believe also we're gonna be eating folks soon
Is that why we're on camera?
Probably I you two are I don't believe I can I can't you can like commentate it if you want
At least it was like three cans yeah wasn't that bad this time. We haven't had a full breakdown yet. Oh, no, just kidding. We have
We have that we have that blow it up day one. Yeah
Yesterday also we had a full
The problem is those little cans like use the structural support. It's not a good idea
What are we doing like we need to get a good gun and kind of make a
Cheating that's cheating takes the fun out of it. Yeah
Just to clarify this wall goes pretty far back as well
Look at the left side of the wall starting from like the lime green can in the bottom there
It's like starting to fall for it already
Calamaz is gonna head out
Because the bugs have gluten in them
He can eat gluten. So in the meantime, oh, you're good
Thunder Thunder blanket hard to see
We're gonna get somebody else in here
wait
Hello, I've come to ingest bugs. Ah fantastic. Have you got bugs before I have are you joining us duck?
Do you want to give us the story? Oh, do we have another person joining us?
For the
No, I think it's just handing us the bugs. Well like the lollipops. You're not really gonna taste the bugs right away
It's going to take a while.
None of us are doing the lollipops.
Yeah, I think we should do the straight-seasoned ones.
Well, why don't we show the lollipops at least?
We'll describe what's in your hand.
So, I've got some seasoned bugs over here.
They're crickets.
I'm so upset.
And they're literally just the straight cricket with...
There's three different flavors here.
I'll throw them upside down.
There's a salt and vinegar, there's a sour cream and onion, and then a bacon and cheese.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think you're going to call Monzy what were you saying again?
Convenient.
Uh, salt and vinegar, bacon and cheese, that's sour cream and onion, right?
Yep.
I'm glad I can eat those.
I've got four lollipops here, which actually look like they're not that bad except for
when you get to the actual books in the middle.
I don't know if you want to zoom in on these.
Is it a scorpion what's in there? I don't know. I saw like a caterpillar. Oh, I think there's a couple different bugs in there
It's a few different bugs in there
The thing is like we're gonna do this bit for like two minutes and then like get off dad
Yeah, that's not that doesn't sound good. So I think we're just gonna put these off to the side
I mean we could do a wheel we could like eat one of these and then also start with a lollipop at the same time
Yeah, you could
We could use a lollipop as like a chaser
in between each other for the chance or not true you're gonna have like wings and
feet stuck in here all right there's so big what do you want should I like go
like this well we can also we can also each have one from one flavor yeah that's
true what do you want to start with start with salt vinegar salt vinegar we
gotta go through all into the salt vinegar one salt vinegar all right
we can stuff in little legs it's gonna be this is so gross not recommended for
People with a shellfish allergy, ain't shellfish allergies?
I don't think so.
Oh look, they describe the different parts of the...
Yeah, the different parts.
Take a smell there.
How do they smell?
The back of it is a...
We'll see.
Well there's a rump, there's a flank.
It makes it even worse.
I thought Dunk was joining us.
And the legs are...
No, I think he's just in charge of us.
Oh, he's just in charge.
Oh my god.
Come on, come have one.
Come have one.
He's shaking his head.
I'm sick.
Don't go just have you know that this is my second food segment I've done for
you okay this kind of smells like what do you got in there dog treats oh a
little bit doesn't it yeah it kind of smells like oh gosh do you just eat it
whole yeah the camera for show the camera oh my gosh that is disgusting
She's a little crooked, bro. She's a little guy.
She's a little cute little guy. Cheers.
I'm sorry, I'm still struggling. Hold on.
What flavor does I have? Cheese?
She has the sour cream in onion one.
Oh my god, this is so much...
I thought I could handle this, but like...
I'm so upset.
This is so disgusting.
I'm gonna keep the mic close so if there's a...
Yeah, no. 100% we gotta get the crunch.
That's the important part.
Alright, cheers.
Cheers.
Remember, this is for the dogs and kitties. It's a Santa Monica animal shelter.
Just slam it. Alright, you want to count us down? Sure. Three, two, one, chomp.
Oh! It tastes like a Rice Krispie. That doesn't taste like nothing actually.
Yeah.
You just can't get into it because they don't know what you're saying.
Ah yeah, you hold them up. Talk to me here.
She tastes like a dog treat tastes like what a dog treats smells like oh
It tastes like you ever walk into like a petco
And it's it's that must oh
Oh, she's gonna eat a bug on a cricket bug
It's her charity
That's what it tastes like. It's just a bug
He doesn't want to do that. It's black
He's rolled by eating
in my lap I don't think I'd like the bacon and cheese on they honestly don't
taste like bacon nor cheese sure to be fair it kind of just tastes like like a
really light barbecue chip flavor tastes like okay you want to toss those back
in there well I should do a handful of them I did two just for I've done three
oh one of its legs oh my gosh it doesn't look anything yeah I believe you I'm
I'm still not eating it. Come on, come on, he's running away.
ASP, wanna try a bug?
My gosh, it was hiding behind the monitor.
All right, this is a...
Sorry for coming in too short.
Just tell us.
Let's see.
Mikes? Everybody conveniently has food intolerances.
Drill? Wanna try a bug?
Yeah, you're right. Lightly flavored.
Wanna try a bug?
You wanna try one?
Oh.
No.
Do any of you guys want to try eating a cricket?
No, cricket?
No, alright. I tried.
I'm a little disappointed. I thought I'd be more grossed out by it, but it just tastes like...
No, crickets honestly don't taste like anything.
Make a handful, eat them all together.
Not interested in that.
Oh my gosh! He dumped it in his mouth!
Oh, it wasn't on camera.
Oh, you have...
I'm pretty down in the bad man.
I want to try I want to get this is hilarious get get this shot, please
They're just they're hiding salt and vinegar one salt and vinegar is definitely better than the bacon and cheese
I
Wouldn't try mine because I spilled them all over my pants. Oh my gosh. You want to know this?
Hi, you do you want to try a bug? Do you want to eat a cricket? Oh my gosh? Oh, let's go hiding here to try one
It says bacon and cheese but it's not really bacon and cheese. Yeah it's where I
put the spider from the couple days ago. Same bush. Yeah where's Mila? Mila come
try a buck. Do you want a cricket? Yeah come on come on it's for charity. Come on.
We're doing it for the Santa Monica Animal Shelter. It's not bad. It's not
that bad. It's an insect that's not quite the same. Unless there are insects
at the Santa Monica Animal Shelter in which case I'm very sorry. They're
might be. The pizza will help you get over it. Come on, Mila! Come on. She's just holding
on to her hand. And honestly, it doesn't taste much of anything. Luna's so concerned.
Alright, well how is it feeling? Does it feel good? Luna, do you want a cricket? Oh, Mila's
not enjoying this. Luna? How do you say it tastes like a bacon bit? Don't tell her
it's a Luna. I wouldn't actually. Boy. Well, thanks for trying the bugs with
us wait does Luna want to eat one no wait I don't our dogs are allowed to eat
one they might eat it probably than we expect them to that's fair that's fair
okay here I'll do a little bit the leg here here I'll switch there you go there's
no way come on Luna get the cricket oh no not into it not into it all right
Well, thank you. Thank you. Great job. I'll finish these off. I suppose. I don't want to be wasted, right?
That's some high-quality protein right there.
We're going to let him munch through the rest of that. In the meantime, thanks everyone so much for hanging out with us.
Thanks everyone for supporting the Santa Monica Animal Shelter. I'm going to go rinse my mouth out.
Thank you, Coinbase. Our presenting sponsors will Seeker Lab Monster Energy,
Alienware, Raider IO, WoWhead, Warcraft Logs, and Dungeon Dojo. Thank you so much. See you in a bit.
You guys see that dog that was just swimming around
in the pool at the hotel this morning?
No way, that was me.
Oh, you really thought it was you?
There's no way you were in there.
Yeah, that's a big dog.
Yo, what's up, guys?
Hey, what's up?
Hey, Atlas?
Yeah.
What's up?
Oh, you look kind of big.
You been working out?
No.
OK, I gotta go.
Bye.
Peace.
Bye.
Atlas has been a little bit sus lately.
He hasn't been hanging out nearly as much.
He's been showing up.
He's been sweaty, winded.
Looks like he just got off a run or something.
And then he even requested a jersey in a larger size.
Pretty weird.
Yo, Atlas, where's the cure vendor here?
He's right there.
Are you?
Yeah.
Also, he's been doing his laundry a lot.
Not just once a week, but like three times a week.
All right, guys, I'm going to go hit wet.
I'm going to go do laundry.
I'll see you guys later.
He's up to something, and I'm gonna find out.
I'm gonna miss a few delves, but it's gonna be worth it.
Yeah, I mean, I've always been built like this.
I don't really go to the gym.
I don't even have time to go to the gym these days.
What?
Wait a minute, didn't,
didn't I see you the other day?
Hey, wait, what are you doing?
You gotta go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
I had a completely unrelated note.
If I found somebody spying on me
or following me for some reason,
probably be trouble for them.
Pacific is powerful and fun to drive the ultimate mount.
Honda mounts are magical.
How does it look?
It's so great.
The thing man's like it.
Like what?
Oh, that?
You guys realize they're giving us
a bunch of those for the race, right?
They will?
Yeah, that's the new Alienware 2725QF4K
dual resolution gaming monitor.
You no longer have to choose between a high resolution
or a super high refresh rate.
It's two monitors of one.
It's like killing two birds with one stone.
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Hello, and welcome to the Team Liquid Strategy Guide.
Today we are going to be talking about the Silken Court.
But first, we must thank our sponsors Coinbase, Secret Lab,
Monster Energy, Alienware, Raider I.O.,
WildHead, Warcraft Logs, and the Dungeon Dojo team.
Additionally, shout out our charity partner,
the Santa Monica Animal Shelter. You can donate at tl.gg-rwf-donate.
Now back to the gameplay. The Silken Court is a two-target encounter, in which the raid
is going to be split into two teams of ten. Additionally, there's going to be a lot of
cleave at various points in the fight. There's a couple of main mechanics, the
rage and the paranoia buffs. Those will drop motes. These motes must be soaked by
the opposite color marker. On top of that, there are webs. Players must get webbed, and then
drag them across the room. Once you drag them across the room, you must then let the beetle
contact the web and go through the web. Otherwise, it will hit the wall.
That is exactly right, Pettles. Yeah.
No, that was great. I liked it. I'm sure Chat was loving it, too.
That was everything we needed to cover. We can go back to a break.
No, but seriously, we're back at Slutton Court, Raiders just got their dinner break.
We got a little pizza, gamer food.
Heidi is taking the night off tonight, so we ordered in much to the delight to some
of these gamers, but did you guys have dinner yet?
No, I ate too much lunch.
All right, did you have dinner yet?
I wasn't feeling super hungry.
Okay, well, we'll get there eventually.
Raiders are on a pole timer, so let's hop back into the silkencourt.
I heard a couple people throughout today say
they feel this boss is easier than we initially thought,
but there have also been a small amount of changes on this boss, including your
5% health nerf. So was it you that said you feel
like this boss is easier than you thought?
I don't know who it was, one of the casters. Yeah, I've been kind of watched. I haven't watched
too much. It seems like from what I hear it's just heroic timing and kind of almost damage
scaling also with the bin with these little orbs, the split groups as you explained so eloquently
earlier titles.
Yeah, I mean the notes of rage and paranoia are by far the most important in the thermokinic.
Ultimately, yeah the timings are about the same which is good news because that means
that, I mean you already know the timings are roughly. On top of that as well the
The fight is kind of predetermined in the sense of, the timings are going to always be about the same.
So, one of the things that you have to know is that the Paranoia orbs will kill off the rage players whenever they go off,
but they won't kill off the other Paranoia marked players.
That way you can kind of keep a hit squad of 10 people alive for as long as possible and see all the way to the end of the fight if you really want.
We did see a new best pull of 35.75 a bit earlier, and that was a bit surprising.
Didn't really expect to be able to see that far into the fight. There's been a couple of main parts of this boss
They've been progressing though, right? Yeah. Yeah, I thought this fight would be a lot slower
I mean, I guess they're 120 poles in about right now, but I thought it was gonna be like
20-second chunks of like, okay
Here's how we do our little bands for this one and that and it would just take forever to find the way through
I mean, maybe that comes into play if the DPS check is like absurd like Tiveza
where you have to optimize like every bit of movement, but I mean I think like right now they've got a good strat
you got this little range pile and
melee pile of the red and the blue yeah, and like I guess they're doing the webs in melee which is interesting
I was watching Echo they do them in ranged and they kind of do a buddy system rather than like two groups I
Think they have half the people who are picking up those webs are gonna be melee players and the other half are ranged players
Because the range people are gonna be off the boss basically so the way that you're doing this fight is
You want a decent amount of range, but the range aren't there to necessarily be topping the damage meter all the time.
You'll see the top DPS on this fight is like that sub road, the DKs, enhancement shamans.
Those range are kind of there to be able to fill in the gaps of your composition.
And as you can see on the screen right here, you know, the range are going to have a hard time being able to cast as much as they realistically would like.
And so they're kind of partnering up in this intermission, making sure that, you know, TSD and Jernakko are going to be moving clockwise around,
making sure that they're able to get these notes so they don't blow up, but
also far enough from the grade group to the point where they're able to cast.
Because the melee group is actually just like spinning around the boss over and
over again. Yeah, so in melee this part I feel like it's a little bit easier than
for the Rangers because you can kind of see how Dranaco and THD are running in
circles as well, whereas in the melee cluster you just walk with with the
empty zone of the pie slices and then eventually you'll find an warp.
He'll just need to make sure that everybody can get to one rather than accidentally soaking
two, so classes like a demon hunter might be a little bit more effective here.
I'm not surprised to see her go down here for once, where it's just so hard to try and
play momentum when also not flying into enemy wars.
But they have been making great progress thus far, I feel like they finally figured
out a good way on how to deal with all of those modes.
You just need to see further and further into the fight.
Yeah, and I heard there was some problems.
I don't know if this is still going on where I guess when the boats spawn, they're not
like right on your character.
They can spawn around you.
Oh.
And so sometimes they would have, like even if people were spread, they would then have
two boats just like back on top of each other and that could be an issue.
But I don't know if that's still happening.
It's kind of hard to tell.
Typically they've been wiping in that void ascension phase where basically getting
out of that void ascension phase and then doing phase two here with the grasp of the
void phase that you see on the bottom of your screen getting all five of those
dispels onto the boss those have been kind of the two points at which the
most proc has needed to occur where you know getting all five of those players
to spell at the right time getting the damage up on the boss those are the
things that have been the most challenging I think so far for liquid
those works are so close you can see how they're kind of stutter stepping in
They're making sure that everything goes.
Doing more dispels here.
So they didn't catch it there.
When they get gripped in, does it just grip one of the colors?
It, okay, so it grips all the rage players first
and then it grips all the paranoia players slightly desynced from that.
And then the next grip is alternating.
So then the paranoia players are gripped first
and then the rage players are gripped slightly desynced.
Because it grips you like straight underneath the boss,
so you have to actually move out of the way fast.
but it's not obviously if it gripped everybody in immediately, it would just like wipe your entire raid.
Okay. Yeah, and the part where the circles come out from maneuver-esh,
like here it's kind of fine, but it seems like once we start going in the final phase...
Oh, we're in the intermission.
Very scary.
This is really good.
So this is the Spike's intermission that we don't see all too often.
It's pretty atypical to even be able to make it to this point.
We did hit a resin Shaqib at that 430 mark whenever we got another battle res.
So now it's just saying that's down.
is also saving their bloodlust. I think that this is going to be prepped for like a fully stacked
Spy Master's Web. It's going to be stacked up for one of the damage amps as well on the boss.
There's also a part of the fight where both of the bosses are afflicted with a damage amp for a
couple of seconds at the same time, and it might be for that that they're saving their lust
for long term. They've kind of been using it as like a brick glass of emergency type of
bloodlust sometimes to be able to get through things like that in remission, being able
being able to break that shield, but being able to 19 man that shield is totally fine.
You would just probably not be able to 16 man it or something like that.
Okay.
And yeah, I'm wondering, because I think sometimes in the first phase during the damage amp,
the bosses are not stacked when a new brush is taking more damage.
Maybe in the intermission, it's easier to have them stacked while one of them is
amped.
Yeah, so, yeah, that'd be a reasonable loss.
Yeah, so, Chad is saying they said earlier they're saving it for the double amp,
like you were saying, Tiddles.
Nice.
Yeah, all right does that grip these moats everywhere wait for this big purple circle break their webs
Oh and dodge these spikes. Yeah, these spikes are these spikes are tough
This is a really nasty overlap as well because it's really easy to have you have to have three people's who have those sets of
Webs be able to stay alive for an extended period of time while holding them that way a new barrage
Who's able to charge them get stunned, you know get into that damage amp phase
But it's so easy to die whether or not it's you know, you're getting hit by the spike whether not the dots from that web
Debuff kills you there's so many different ways that you can actually just die there
Unfortunately, if the beetle crashes in the wall your wiping
Yeah, one of the more interesting things about this fight is you brought up earlier that you can kind of have one of the
Groups die off and just keep going
And so I think both of the guilds did that where they had like half the raid alive and just kind of saw to the end
the fight to get timers and stuff and you know normally that's just not possible
because something's gonna kill you along the way some kind of DPS check like I'm
kind of surprised the shields don't actually have a cast you have to beat
like it's just like this 600 second long well I mean it does a lot of damage
to your raid so you don't really you can't really sit in that phase for a
while there's also a hardened rage on the boss mm-hmm yeah yeah for that I'm
I'm just meaning that they can like go in.
I saw an Echo stream.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, 930.
All right.
I didn't, I don't think we saw it on stream, brother.
Yeah, I'm not.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm sure they've hid in Rage because that's how Echo did it,
is they were just like 10 manning the boss
and got to Rage.
But yeah, that's a, it's weird that you can do that.
But that's another thing that's like Final Fantasy,
is that you can just get to Rage
without actually having to like
keep everybody alive the whole time.
I don't really mind that you can do that.
It's not typical of a WoW encounter specifically.
You would kind of expect the moats
if they blow up to blow everybody up
and they're macked as a bomb as opposed to
them acting in this weird way
where they just like give the entire opposite color
just like one singular stack.
But I mean, I don't think it's like really
that big of a deal.
And I think that, you know,
looking at 10 man the fight to seed the end of the boss,
it makes a lot of sense.
I think that, you know, 9.30 in rage on this,
how much HP this fight has is going to be a bit tough, but we have the reset looming.
That also includes the 5% that they already nerfed off of this thing.
So that already happened first nerf as well on the tank, one tank comp, they did not like
that, so they made it impossible to one tank this boss now, but they also nerfed 5% off
of the health bar of Silken Quartz, so that is number one slash two because they
They went back on the tanking one to make sure it was really working out so that Guilds could
no more do this.
And yet we're still on a very, very big HP bar to work on.
So I've been saying I think there's no way where this boss dies this ID.
Do you think there's a chance for the EU Guilds that maybe it comes true?
Yeah, I think so.
You think so?
I think it's so hard to say without seeing a good poll with everybody alive to enrage,
like how big that gap can be, so I'm like holders in reserve, but I mean liquid's making
really good progress, and Echo's gonna have all day to work on it, and I mean I've seen
crazier stuff happen, you know, unless the rage is like bananas, I think they, I think
even liquid could kill tonight.
Oh.
Okay.
Yeah, they're making, they're making steady progress, if the rage isn't bad, I'd...
it's not the craziest thing you've ever seen right it's not like we're watching
Brutwister next to princess in terms of you know the pacing of this fight this
fight is I don't say slower but this fight is not a hundred miles an hour like
the last two bosses that we've been watching and it's so predetermined that
you kind of already know what's coming and so assuming that you're able to
you know position correctly and do all that stuff I can see it I don't think
that liquid could necessarily kill it tonight but I do I don't say I'm
worried, but I think it's a possibility that I could kill it within their next 24 hours.
Yeah, and it, I guess it would be a big deal for, because you can get potentially a Mythic
Spy Mashes web, you know, the loot, the tier, it's all good, but you know, they're all
after the end boss.
I wouldn't be like, be like an ego thing.
If they killed it tomorrow, it wouldn't be for a loot, it would be because then
they can pull in some direct offspring.
Yeah, that would be, yes.
And that would be huge.
That would be huge.
Yeah, it would be a little for loot, but still.
Well, I mean, yeah, the loot's not bad, of course.
Speaking of loot, there is a reset that's looming, at least for NA.
I personally don't think there is a world where Silicon Court goes down tonight at any time.
I'm also not sure if either Echo or Method are gonna be able to down it tomorrow.
To me, it still seems like while they're making good progress on the strategies of the boss,
there's just so much HP on that thing.
So I'm not sure whether or not it is a reality.
All of these guilds have been really good at kind of conjuring up DPS and then being able to consistently make progress like we've been seeing on Nexus princess
However, I'm not sure the time is there to do all that and also figure out the tech
Coming to those reclears though. Do you think this is a boss that will get easier once you have more gear?
Hmm like outside of that damage check of course that's getting easier, but in terms of living
I feel it's a lot of past fail.
Like if you, if you don't get the webs in, you're dead anyway.
If you soak one of the modes too many, you're dead.
If one of the modes blow up, you're also dead.
Like, I don't think gear in itself
is going to help make this fight easier
besides the fact that you're going to be able to
maybe be under the end range.
Yeah, yeah, I can see that.
Yeah, it is all past fail, I guess.
Yeah, then it just comes down to if the enrage is that crazy, but that's just my biggest question.
So you said you've seen the... What does the enrage look like?
Because I personally haven't been able to see it just yet.
I'm trying to remember. They got all big and red, and I can't remember...
I don't think it was instant, but it was pretty quick.
Okay.
Okay.
And it could be 10 minutes, I think it was 9.30, you know.
I was watching the stream at 4 in the morning or something.
It's a bit weird that they didn't announce tuning for Nexus Princess or Brutlister.
I also thought that
What's gonna be going on with that? I think that these guilds these racial first-level guilds are gonna be fine to re-clear
The raid and should be able to do that fairly easily. I'm more looking towards
The other 250 guilds that are looking to pull Brew twister right now and thinking why that is a
There's a boss that I don't know about them pulling over and over again
Yeah, I think a lot of people anticipated nerfs even and so I was they kind of took time off
because they're like oh they'll nerf it now they're going oh no no which are the
practice well it's not that they it's not that they took time off because
they're they'll nerf it or whatever it took time off because they're 6 16 or
yeah 6 16 average item mobile and you need 6 20 average item level to be able
to make sure those parasites are killed off so your best bet is to group up
as a 20 man or whatever and then go do mythic plus break up into more
groups of five and then go do mythic laws. Yeah, I mean this could be a different approach.
You know Blizzard changes things like how they handle different like aspects of the game.
So maybe they just are saying like they think rating is for the the gamers and it's gonna
take you even if you're real. It's gonna take you a long time. I don't know. It's
It's not that they couldn't have changed that philosophy except that it hasn't been their
philosophy as long as Mythic has been in the game, so it would surprise me that they changed
to that.
I think a lot of the guilds have gotten sweatier.
I mean, for sure, in the top five or so.
But at this point, it's not a question of, to quote, how sweaty you are.
It's more a question of how many splits can you afford to do.
And with most guilds having a great time of 12 hours per week, there is only
So many splits that you can do in like a sensical amount of time if you also want to do mythic proc
so even like
Rather try hardy guild. They're running like two three at most like four splits
You're not gonna get up there where we're lick it or aqua are sitting with all of their helpers in
Terms of gear and yet they're still on brew twister like if you check how many guilds are sitting on brew twister
It's a lot. Yeah, the first four bosses are not that big of a challenge
So even guilds that usually wouldn't be at a this heart of a boss at this given time are now they are kind of bashing their heads against the wall
More guilds are on brew twister and are on blood on whore. Yeah, which is
Crazy, that's a yeah interesting stat. Yeah, I think people are gonna get more eye level next week then
I agree. Like you get your crest, cap goes up, you're gonna get your like mythic vault.
You get another craft.
Yeah, you get another craft. You get a catalyst, maybe you can do some things around it.
I'm seeing a hot take, sort of interrupting, but I'm seeing a hot take in chat saying
mythic raids should take all season to beat.
Oh my god.
Well, it does for some people.
It does for some guilt.
Wait, wait, I have the right thing for that.
Okay.
Yeah, so now, what's your opinions on that?
It does for some guilds, it already does take the entire season for some guilds.
It's just not like every guild.
Have you ever watched the rest of World Last?
That's a thing?
Yeah.
Is that like to get on the Hall of Fame?
Cutting into guilds, yeah.
Like when the reset comes in and then you can no longer get to the guild.
We're just trying to squeeze it under the under the wire
Yeah, I mean, I guess we'll just have to see what it looks like next week if they don't do any tuning and what what I level people get because
I'm not good at predicting
The power upgrades that people get from a reclear and another heroic raid and all that but it is a lot of different
like
Sources of gear that all unlock at the same time looking at it from like an average guilt perspective average mythic guilt
Sorry an average mythic guilt perspective
I think that they're supposed to be nerfing both the Nexus Princess, yeah the Nexus Princess and the Brute Twister.
I would be a bit surprised if they didn't, but I don't work at Blizzard so I can't really say like that.
I mean there's still another date, right? Like they could be announcing those, yeah they could be announcing that they're kind of nerfing those bosses a bit during the downtime for NA,
Which would mean it would come like during the day for EU
How long is our maintenance tomorrow? Anybody know?
I think they set like until 10
So 2 hours?
So we have 2 hours of maintenance
Oh Chad is saying 3 hours
7 to 10 PDT
Oh it starts, oh so it starts an hour before reset
That makes sense and then it goes 2 hours after the reset
So it's 3 hours of maintenance like that
Are we in the PDT?
Yeah, Pacific Daylight time. Typically people say PST, but yes, that is our time zone.
There's too many time zones in the States.
There are a lot.
Especially if you...
Yeah, it's because of all that Hawaii.
It's because we have so much freedom to have a different time zone.
Right, right, right.
So much time here.
Yeah, there's also one over in Hawaii.
In Alaska.
Oh, they have... wait.
I know you have a time zone called Mounted Time. I find that very endearing.
Yeah, I live in Mountain Time.
Oh, do you?
Yeah.
Great.
How is it out there in the Mountain Time?
It's pretty good.
It makes you feel like Kratos or something.
What?
Just like Kratos from God of War.
I don't know.
OK.
Let's just not think about it.
There's some sort of a mountainy land.
Oh, OK.
Like a-
Like a-
I don't know the English, but it is like an aromite.
Like the hermit?
Hermit?
who live in the mountains.
You know, like much cooler than a hermit.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
They're like the...
They're like the Swiss.
The Swiss of the US, yeah.
You're rich?
Is this true?
That's what we think about the Swiss.
I'm not sure you're talking to be pretty affluent.
But, you know, that's the right word, right?
I just whipped that one out.
Yeah, affluent.
Okay, Dratnos is making me feel bad
about some of the words I use and the limitation of just having a handful.
Gips is on some Mickey Mouse time. He's from Halifax.
What's Mickey Mouse time?
Dude, he's on like an hour, he's like an hour and a half ahead of ESC or something like that.
Is it really?
Yeah.
Is that far over?
Yeah.
Is that one of the places where the sun behaves differently?
I don't know if it behaves differently.
I am now very confused
I was already out when we were confusing PDT and PST and now we just added so many more
Yeah, PDT and PST I don't still don't know what that means. All right
Me neither. I
Think they're the same but could be different
Oh, Kalmazi coming by. Wait, where does hat go?
Yeah, I thought he was attached to his head
He's fine
Shaking his head
So yeah, what were we talking about before we get to Hunnab's time, don'ts the reset.
Oh yeah, oh yes.
Would that be comparable, sorry.
It's like a two hour...
It's like a little longer than we would normally have, no?
Yeah, so it's three hour maintenance, but it's just the servers are down after the reset for two hours, allegedly.
NA loves to extend your maintenance occasionally, so...
Oh yeah, I've been experiencing it.
You can tighten forward to two hour maintenance extension, that's uh...
Haven't lost reset?
Yeah, that's about the longest that I think you can tide and forge a maintenance ascension.
Sometimes I've seen some pretty bad ones, but those are normally for like, very specific things like patch launches or whatever.
But they tide and forge like all day.
Yeah, I think the guild's getting a planning that then there's no maintenance or the standard kind.
And start raid about the same time, but if I was about to sleep in, just in case.
Cause you know, then they're not going to waste a few hours.
I'll always air to the side of sleeping in.
You know that they're not doing that.
Yeah, no, they're getting up early, I think.
I mean, it could end earlier too, no?
Yeah. Is that a chance?
What's the rush?
The race to World First.
It's literally called a race for reason camps.
I know, but then you can sleep in and just have it all start later.
Okay, let's talk about that, because the guild in the recent days has been going to bed rather early, I feel like, in comparison to last races.
So I would expect them to also go to bed early tonight because they kind of have a long day ahead of them tomorrow
Would you agree?
Yeah, yeah, I think they're gonna
If this does not look killable
Then they're for sure gonna go to bed
To get probably I would guess
They will call raid ten hours
Before maintenance is scheduled to end
So then they can it's I think you know usually they're doing like eight and a half. Yeah
until their next raid or so.
Either sleep it, you know.
It's been a long week.
Also with the heroic week, I mean, they've been grinding.
Like, you have to think, you know,
they didn't just start playing hard this week.
The expansion launched, and they've been nonstop gaming.
Leveling characters, gearing them out.
Leveling professions on all their guys.
I mean, and the speed and how much they've had to cram in
to just that kind of like grinding chore stuff.
I mean, you kind of have to pay attention
if you want to level 16 guys really quickly, like you have to be, you know, you can't just
be watching a movie on the other monitor, like they are speed running, multiple characters
for weeks, they don't have to do the raids.
They might be watching a movie on another monitor while they're playing.
True, it's not out of the question.
Yeah, maybe at some point, but they just had so much to cram in that like, it's
probably healthy to
now is a good time as any
at this boss seems on cable tonight to take a little breather
i really love what we've been
will sleep with an answer records anything
oh yeah yes
well once we actually get close to that kill
but an attitude like that in a very like sepulcher
and like by you because
you know you push really hard you don't
because you anticipate that we just have to grind for like
ten to fourteen days yeah and then you get blasted by some
over 20 day raid which I mean if this goes 20 days be pretty crazy but you know
there was talk before we saw this fight that like maybe this one wouldn't die
until like Friday next week I don't think that's the case anymore I think they
lowered the pace of the mechanics from testing but you think when do you
think of this fight or do when do you think answer rectifies we were thinking
like Saturday probably right so this is like your updated prediction Saturday on
date yeah I think I think it'd be like Friday or Saturday it's one of the two
of those is the most likely I think yeah Friday with a clutch kill Thursday and
maybe a sad kill Saturday a sad kill Saturday yeah we won't talk about that
but you're assuming I guess you're assuming what Silicon Court dies after
the Reese reset on Tuesday to be able to kill it on Thursday yeah I was getting
maybe yeah wait that's maybe two or yeah so let's go through that the kind of
timetable tomorrow's reset that's Tuesday we'll probably be starting a little bit
later into the day assuming kind of maintenance comes how it always comes
whenever we and then re-clear I can watch it four hours maybe yeah so there's
gonna be splits that will be done I'm sure we're gonna be re clearing I mean
a bunch of like crafting that needs to be done and then maybe another split to
you're a certain character up that wasn't in the spots last week or something like that mythic plus for
Press to be done. Yeah, I think so too. That's crafting
So I think the earliest
We will be back at
Silicon Court
is probably like
Tuesday late night if not Wednesday in the morning
Is that I think we yeah, I think we see Silicon Court pull tomorrow. I was thinking maybe
After dinner?
Yeah, like the evening.
So, then we'll be back at Silicon Court and we also need to still kill that boss.
Which I don't think, for the reasons that I outlined before, I think you have more damage then.
But you still need to play the fight.
Because a lot of the mechanics are past fail rather than, oh just live.
Which means the fight itself doesn't become much easier, it just becomes doable at that point.
So you're still going to be slamming a bunch of tries into this guy until it eventually goes down
So the earliest for me that Silicon Court dies is Thursday. Oh, I was thinking on Wednesday
Yeah, which I mean we're not we're not done progging it yet, but I think that Wednesday night
I'm I think that that's the most likely timetable for the boss to die
Okay, I could see how Wednesday could work
If you if you really come back to Silicon
Court Tuesday evening, then Wednesday night
I can see work because they still have a
couple of hours in today as well.
Right?
They might also want to save some of the
splits and chores until they see
Ancerac and then they they might
want to change the calm.
Yeah, that could be a reason that they
kind of come to Silicon Court earlier
tomorrow than been doing like every
single split or something.
But. Yeah, I still think this could
think this could die tomorrow pretty quickly. I really just want to see the
enrage before I make any kind of like final decision because if it's high
beds a level DPS check then they're probably gonna have to read we have a
bar we have a bar on this ground fired up I was talking to Bart about this thing
I'd like one of these guys and he was like I'm not sure if I should make it
what if we're way off but we have so at the very top of fired up's POV you
You can see that blue bar with the red marker.
So blue is the damage they have right now, and red is where they should be.
So that gives you an idea of how far we're off of the damage checkpoint at this given
time.
We still haven't used Bloodlust, so we want to use that for the damage amp, and notably
the fight does have damage amps, so it's a little bit patterned weirdly to compare
it this given time, but we're not too far off, Tedels.
Yeah, it has, I want to say it's either H or 9 individual damage ramp phases.
And so there's a lot of, you know, falling a little bit behind the damage check and then catching back up
and then falling a little bit behind and then catching back up.
And then both of the bosses have an invulnerability phase at the same time,
where both of them are taking a little bit of bonus damage
and that's where we want to pop our lust, right?
And then we really catch back up and hopefully we're able to overpass that red marker
that we're falling a little bit further behind on each debris second that passes.
Additionally, both of the bosses will shield themselves at various points.
You see at the bottom of our screen, we have them labeled as Void Ascension and Raging Fury.
The bosses are basically shielded in. So that's impossible to necessarily track with this specific week aura.
But just know that that will also make us fall a little bit further behind as well against the damage check.
Yeah, I bet we were surprised at how much damage they do when they lost.
They're going to pop that spy masses web, maybe being executed,
and if they're both taking double damage, it's going to just shoot that bar way to the left.
All right, this is a wipe. Wiperine. Wait, what happened?
Oh, they just lost. Yep, they just lost. Guys.
Well, the stairs also dead, so...
Yeah. Dude, what is this?
Best US State Bracket Contest, round one.
Wyoming versus Arkansas.
Dude, why did we pick two bottom ten states?
I mean, that's how brackets work.
No, Wyoming and Arkansas, I'm seeing this like 41 and like 48.
Yeah, so you have, this is round one, so there'll be a lot of rounds, and then the
best state out of each kind of, it like moves up, you know how bracket works, we work
on the odd.
Wait, what are you saying about Wyoming?
Are you trash talking Wyoming?
Yellowstone.
Other things.
Yeah, I was just thinking one other thing.
Yes, please, one more.
Shawianne here.
Wyoming Bat, Wyoming mentioned Pog.
Okay, I've not been to many states in the US,
so I cannot comment.
I've only been to Texas, Oklahoma, Massachusetts,
and then California.
You should, there's a lot of...
A lot of things over there.
Cam said something very funny that you don't know why it's funny.
Hummel was pretty. He had like water.
Yeah, I've got some friends there. I've never been. I've been. Let's see.
Mississippi versus Vermont. This is like the 49th versus...
I don't know. This is probably like the 35th or something.
I thought it was not too bad.
Yeah, I don't know. Bernie Sanders.
Nothing nowhere.
I don't know what else.
I've got one thing from each state.
Mississippi
People like to spell it and it has a river. I live there once
Yeah, very bad state really and do you just hate all states tells like
No, I don't hate all states
Am I pronouncing that state weirdly by the way chat is like making fun of not shirts because of me or no
I'm not gonna correct you but you might be saying it funny to the board work games
Said something that made me laugh a lot
What?
It's just, it's Oklahoma, like oak tree.
You go Oklahoma?
What is the spell?
There's no A.
Camps just deadpan goes, yeah, I love Oklahoma.
I just sent me.
Oh my gosh, you Vermont just dunked Mississippi.
Mississippi.
Mississippi is that state that they don't have the clean water in.
Oh, Yenny.
I think that's a...
There was also Flint, Michigan, but the Mississippi had it even worse.
The river's not good.
Yeah, oh, I don't know.
Oh, Utah, greater than greater than.
Let's go. Shout out.
A person after your own heart.
What's next?
Oh yeah, what's next?
West Virginia versus Washington. This is a clean sweep.
What's in West Virginia?
There's a song.
Country Road.
Yeah, I know about the song.
Take me home.
That's all I know.
The Appalachian Mountains? That's about it.
It's like a hiking region.
Uh-uh.
It's like a coal mining region.
I've been to most of the West states,
just kind of driving through them on the way to California
or up to Washington.
And then I've been through a bunch of East Coast ones
when I drove with Bayloris from Tennessee to Boston.
That was crazy.
I still can't believe you did that.
That was insane.
I thought you had to have lived in New Yorkham.
I didn't recognize the fact that you flew from Utah
of Tennessee to drive to Boston. That is insanity. How long of a drive was it?
Quite long. We started in the afternoon and just went the whole way. It was from Spain
to Berlin. Yeah, probably about 24-ish. But then we had a moment. I've never been to
New York City. We're going over the George Washington Bridge, I think it was. The sun's
coming up and you're looking at the city and it was great.
I want it for a moment.
Sounds very nice.
Yeah, I made him drive through New York because that got crazy.
That highway is insane.
This is a close one.
I think I picked Oregon.
I think I like Oregon over Pennsylvania, but dude, there are some people that just
love Pittsburgh for some reason.
Oh, Pittsburgh is the emo city.
I learned that from Spotify
There's apparently a lot of metalheads living in Pittsburgh. Oh, yeah, definitely like that. Yes, absolutely like that
That's what you wanted to say, right? Yeah, I know. Yeah, I would be depressed if I lived in Pittsburgh personally, but
Yeah, I don't know. I've never been. There's a good song called Pittsburgh
Lot of history in Pennsylvania
It's hard to compete with the East Coast on the history. The West is so young
true
But Oregon's beautiful. Yes, I used to go there a lot
nice
Very green
And foggy
Yeah, Chet gets me. I'm very proud of them right now. I got the band. I can't believe we had Arkansas versus Wyoming
And then we have two like not terrible states versus one another
This is what I was saying about see that's how brackets work. No, but these are like what the
Okay, if we're breaking at the bracket
This is literally like the 42nd versus the 49th seed.
Yeah.
You would never face those in round one.
Well, we do.
Arkansas would be facing the best state.
I don't even know.
Why would it?
Ooh, it could have been a dark horse.
Oh, Montana.
Nebraska versus Montana.
I think I picked Montana here.
But I'm not in love with Nebraska.
I don't know.
I don't love Montana.
I've been to Montana a couple times.
I was not huge on it.
just even worse on Nebraska, I think.
Yeah, Montana's just, it's getting less empty, but it's very empty.
There's more information here.
Yeah, I drove through it with my mom's parents, like my grandparents on their side, they live
in Washington.
So on the way there, we go through Montana.
Yeah, I think that Montana's clearing Nebraska mostly due to the fact that Nebraska's terrible
and Montana not that bad.
Yeah, I don't know anything about Nebraska.
But I think if you're very rich and you're afraid that like water's gonna run out and stuff
That's where you're going is Montana. If you are looking for a nice cheap house and some land
Nebraska can be a vibe. Oh
Missouri also great for the the cheap land, Missouri. Yeah. I
Don't mind Missouri. Okay. We have we have a win. Oh
What's what's the next one? And I'm gonna require you to explain these states to me because I feel left out right now
Montana no, no we were done with those we're waiting for the next yeah, just sadly I drove on Montana I
Roadtrip to this event did you how long of a drive with that?
Ten ish all yeah, that's pretty well something would you drove with your wife, right? Yeah, and her parents live half way
So this okay. Here's the next states Arizona and Rhode Island, so Arizona
is near here I know Arizona iced tea that's a good claim to fame also known
for being very hot has Phoenix very hot Arizona is like a core part of the
Southwest in the US like Vegas where it's like in the desert yeah it's not
kind of like that yet it's near Nevada yep Rhode Island is known for being the
smallest state, traditional east coast state, you know, a lot of history, very old. Not
very many people live there, but more people live there than Wyoming and Montana.
Yeah, I'm kind of surprised. Where's Rhode Island at? I don't, you know, I don't know
anything good or bad about Rhode Island, but Rhode Island is pretty blank.
I've been to Rhode Island. I've not really been to Arizona.
Arizona.
I feel like Arizona would I feel like I'd vote for Arizona over Red Island
just to the I
Kind of like the Southwest and I don't love California, but I do like Arizona
Yeah, I mean I've at least been to Arizona
So just let's go to Grand Canyon. I'm ignorant
I'm just taking notes. I'm taking someone say Arizona won because of the ice tea
Tells says tells revealing his coastal elite status with some of these takes on from the south
I was gonna say aren't you like originally from Texas? Oh here it is
Everybody vote Texas, everybody's going to vote...
No, I'm not actually originally from Texas, but...
Okay, but you lived there for a while, Lloyd.
I lived there for two years.
Oh, that's a while.
Okay.
You move a lot.
I do move a lot, yeah.
Uh, Texas is, you know, everything's bigger in Texas.
They have bumper stickers that say,
I wasn't born here, but I got here as fast as I could.
Oh, yeah, I know.
I'm, as I said, I've been to Texas.
It's one of the very few state flags that you'll ever actually know.
Yeah, unfortunately I've been to Texas in the summer,
And as somebody who's very much attuned to the cold seasons of the world, that was terrible.
New Hampshire's like Vermont's part two.
Another East Coast city.
It's like Boston Light, or like Massachusetts Light kind of type beat.
You go there, you move there if you wanted to live in New York City, but are
not rich enough to live in New York City kind of Texas lost. Wow.
Well, yeah, a lot of people hate Texas.
I think I understand...
We have a state like Texas in Germany too.
It's called Bavaria.
Oh, yeah.
Texas is a very polarizing state.
I'm surprised the Texans didn't stand up.
Actually, I don't know.
I think that's okay.
Yeah, there's...
But there's a lot of people who hate Texas,
so I understand how this is lost.
Texans are mad in a way sometimes,
in ways that you can't do.
Yeah, I know.
We have Bavarians.
It's like the thing of like, if you ever wondered whether someone's Bavarian or not,
then worry they'll tell you.
It's the same like Texans, yeah.
Dude, they put up Hawaii versus Illinois.
Wow, yeah.
I'm currently living in the great state of Illinois.
How are you?
Yeah, I live in Chicago, it's sick.
Okay.
That's the only thing that Illinois is known for?
Chicago?
Yeah.
Yeah, and Hawaii is really, really cool.
It's like a vacation.
It's like a vacation island location.
Yeah, I've never been I'm going to if Hawaii doesn't win this I'll be very surprised. I'm both. I'm going for Christmas
Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're gonna only vacation as opposed to nice in presents or anything. It's a cute idea. I like that
That's that's fun
We do like a secret Santa, but like with actual presents so that everybody only has to buy one present Chicago is cool
Yes, they're going to Chicago sick
What's the Hawaii of Germany? Oh?
uh...
listen
we don't really have
have an al-ayah in germany i think
i wouldn't i wouldn't make it when we win this
but alayah is like
probably top ten states and it was saying mayorka which is a spanish island
but the germans have somehow claimed that one
so yeah maybe mayorka is the hawaii of germans
shut up colonialism
not like that
okay sorry about that
Do you know how there's like very popular travel destinations for every country?
So for example, a lot of like British people will go to like north of Barcelona, for example.
Like when you go there, you see so many Brits.
For the Germans, it's Mallorca, which is like, I don't know why.
But literally you go there and people speak German, so wild.
We do not need to be Sheldia Colonia.
No.
It was a joke. It was a joke. It was not being serious.
We got next Connecticut versus Ohio. So Ohio is for lovers.
Uh huh. For what? For lovers. Why? Aren't you from Ohio?
No, he's from Utah. Utah, okay.
So why is Ohio for lovers?
It was a song or something. So cut my wrist and black my eyes. Yeah.
I can't make it on my own, exactly.
Chad is saying Virginia is for lovers.
It's a song.
How does makes not know?
I'm sorry.
I'm stupid and European.
It's a song by Hawthorne Heights.
It's actually a banger.
Okay.
Dang, all these coastal elite states are winning.
This is insane, Connecticut's like known for being New York City part two.
Is that the, but better than New Jersey?
Is it tiny?
Huh?
I think I drove through Connecticut, is it tiny?
Yeah, kind of.
I hated Connecticut personally.
I was in, I went to Hartford at one point and I was not a fan.
Oh, Lottie Daa, Hartford.
There was nothing Lottie Daa about it.
I'm pretty sure that's where the opioid epidemic is talked about in the US too.
One of them. I think that Ohio gets a bad rap the same way that Texas does so
that's in this one they lost. I actually don't think Ohio is that bad.
I think Ohio. Oh what's the next one? The MDI had Ohio, the MDI had us housed in Ohio for like
eight weeks at a time at some points. That was it. Really not bad. Okay so we
have Colorado against Alaska and I will say I would like to go to Alaska one.
It looks beautiful. Colorado is kind of sick. I've been seeing a lot of like
documentation that Alaska.
No.
You look like I've never been to Alaska.
You look like somebody who would go to Alaska at some point.
No, I've never been.
My sister used to go.
She would go during the summers and work
for the vacation seasons.
Did she like it?
Yeah.
Both of the, I very beautiful.
I really like Colorado.
I'm sure you've been to Colorado.
I've been there, but not much.
It's a further drive from Salt Lake than you'd think, especially like to get to anything like get to Denver. Denver is really far away actually.
Well now I'm sad.
Denver is pretty far away from the rest of Colorado, but the Rockies are just beautiful.
A lot of, you know, there's a lot of skiing and a lot of winter sports that you can do there.
Oh, I tried winter sports like one or two years ago and I ended up in the hospital, so maybe that's not for me.
Oh, I love wakeboarding.
I want to I want to learn how to snowboard at some point
during COVID. I drove to dinosaur Colorado.
Oh, my God. Kentucky versus New Mexico.
Dinosaur Colorado is a little state or a little city
right on the border.
You know what's there?
Dinosaurs, Colorado rules and laws.
OK, I'm not getting it.
People might know.
I have a finger button down.
It's kind of like the Oklahoma job, yeah.
I'll hand gesture, you mix.
I don't want you to feel left out.
Oh, OK.
Yeah, yeah, it was the first date.
I understand.
I was hoping for dinosaurs.
Yeah.
There were dinosaurs there one day.
It cuddled like dinosaurs?
Yeah.
That's a good point, mix.
Yeah, they were dinosaurs, but they turned to stone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's how fossils usually work.
Yeah.
I assume there's a bunch of dinosaurs underneath dinosaur Colorado, but otherwise, you're
just picking a sick name, I guess.
This is maybe the most American thing that we could have done is us explaining states
to make.
I'm not even sure how this started.
Oh my god, Missouri versus Utah.
That's just a mod to make holes.
Missouri's going to lose.
Utah has to win because Kansas here, right?
I'm not logged in.
So Utah, Utah is, I would describe it as like the outdoorsy state, they have things like Moab, which is some of the most pretty, like the prettiest landscape in the world.
Yeah, like the arches, the red rock arches, have you seen pictures of that?
So they lose a lot of points because of Mormons.
Yeah, I was gonna say, you know it's kinda known for Mormons, right?
Hold up, nice people.
Listen, Mormons aren't, I don't have an issue with Mormons, there's not for everyone.
Yeah
Womanism just not for everybody hands is looking for his phone to go. Yeah vote and also show you some
Moab, but I don't know where it went. Moab is really cool. I think that I think that Utah's a great state
Yeah, Zuri is uh
That's okay. You got the Rocky Mountains get the you okay. Yeah, I heard of those Utah one though
You didn't need to vote did it? Oh
You chose beautiful. I've been no a lot of like environmental diversity Zion
mountains, lots of national parks. So it's like Alaska but smaller. Alaska is huge, I think.
But Alaska might be, no, there's got to be huge mountains there. Cams, I drove from Vegas to
Denver and back on my honeymoon because it was cheaper to fly into and out of Vegas and rent a
car to drive to Denver back. Hold on, what did that say? I got to go to Vegas.
Then fly to Denver or drive to Vegas from Denver then fly back to Canada from
Vegas. Oh my god. Yep. He's just like you. I got a little lost on the path he took,
but I can understand. I like driving. You don't like driving. You move to a
state that's like cardless no city yes this is yeah Indiana versus Delaware
George Washington crossed a river here one at one point named after a guy
named Galawar yeah okay Indiana I don't know Larry birds from Indiana yeah these
are two I don't know anything about like Indianapolis Indianapolis is the
capital no yes still means nothing to me I don't know what that city even
of the indianapolis five hundred
gary
uh... it's uh... indiana
it's a
suburb of chicago that's
across
the illinois indiana state line
they'll wear one
showing that's pretty
oh yeah
crazy rock you have to ask me where that is i would have said australia
you just won't
looks like it was okay yeah it does
orange
Yeah, you're driving and all of a sudden all the mountains just turn orange.
Cool.
Oh, I like that.
I'm a big man with a purse.
Kalamazoo, we're explaining states to makes.
Oh, I know about Florida.
We don't need you.
Oh, shoot.
Kalamazoo just looked at her and walked away.
Kalamazoo.
Florida or Texas?
He's gone.
Gone.
Kind of about the same tier.
So, I don't know why, but I have a lot of people from Florida in my community that like hang out in the discord and stuff.
And every time I see like reels or TikToks about Florida things, I'm like, ooh, Florida activities happening.
Florida has like 30 million people and there's a lot of people who live there.
Yeah, Florida's interesting. You said that Moab looks like Australia.
Oh, I think Florida's our Australia.
Kansas versus Florida, Kansas is known for having nothing and being flat as a pancake,
like the Netherlands of the US.
Oh, well we actually like the Netherlands.
I would just meant in terms of flat.
Oh yeah, it's been flat over there.
Yeah, it's been in terms of flat, not in terms of what's there.
We're all very surprised we're not under the water yet, but it seems to stay one
with very good technology.
They build a lot of them.
Lots of tornadoes in Kansas, Florida, filled with the Gators and...
Swamp puppies?
Yeah.
There's a part of Florida it's called that's known as the Redneck Riviera. Oh
Yeah, shout out Panama City Beach. I went to Florida once. I went to the Keys
It's like a string of islands off the tip or something the Florida man is the well-known
Resident of the state of Florida. Yeah, so I actually know why that is for the longest time
I was like why are there so many weird people in Florida?
But apparently just everything they do needs to be broadcast to the internet like every single crime that that has been done there
They need to like write down and so that's why a lot of these reading were headlines just make it everywhere
It's it's just an average American moment sometimes, okay?
The European mind can't comprehend why one man was trying to wrestle a gator. Oh, no, I understand that I've seen videos
I am yeah, sometimes whatever you just
Are bored you can think can I take that thing out and sometimes you just get a little bit over confident
They go yeah, there's actually a lot of people on my like Instagram feed at like pet the gators
And I'm like, oh.
Yeah, I wouldn't advise that.
I would say I wouldn't do it.
But they look kind of sweet.
Florida is in the South, but I would not discourage the people
who live in Florida as all Southerners.
I think they're kind of like Texas in that regard,
where they're a little bit different.
Yeah, Florida is a swing state.
So, right?
It's pretty diverse to go either way.
Kind of, yeah.
That's also due to the fact that a lot of older people retire there, but Northern Florida is like the South.
Northern Florida is like the South.
Yeah, the Panhandle area is what we call it.
It's like basically the same as South Alabama, kind of.
Okay, Florida won.
I feel like we're doing a new best try while we're like doing our little state best off.
What is this? Best off. It's gotta be South Dakota, right?
Oh, this is a good one, yeah. Which is the one with the faces mountain?
That's much more south. South Dakota, yeah.
The faces mountain, that's a good point. Yeah.
So South Dakota got the faces, got our presidential mountain.
Oh, I know that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
North Dakota, I don't know. I can't believe they would put the Lakotas up.
Capital of North Dakota is Bismarck, capital of South Dakota is Pierre.
Oh. Don't know. Yeah.
Yeah, I couldn't put on this. Maybe...
It's dependent on who you ask, Mount Rushmore is a negative.
Make it a tight chat, become ungovernable.
I just, I don't know anything about North Dakota, frankly.
North Dakota State University is there.
The Cowboys.
Yeah, I know nothing about the codes.
I mean, wait, maybe Wyoming's Cowboys.
Maybe North Dakota State University's also Cowboys.
I don't know.
Yeah, I'm also not at all interested in any sport,
so that keeps me disconnected.
No, can we not talk about sport?
My team is losing. I'm very upset.
What game? NFL. Football.
What's your team?
The Bengals.
You should have adopted at least a good team.
How dare you!
Do you know where Cincinnati even is?
Yes, it's in the United States.
What state?
I'll give you a hint. It's the state that we've already seen.
I wouldn't know.
I'm not a fan for them because of the state that they're from.
That's why most people are Cincinnati Biggles fans because it's just nearby.
Well none of the states are nearby Germany, so I got to choose one.
North Dakota State University is a bison, not a cowboy. Well, like a cowboy rides a bison sometimes.
I don't know about that. Not really, but like it doesn't my mind.
John has my back.
I have no opinion on the matter.
I don't really know too much about other states.
What did the buffalo say to his kid when it left for college?
Bye, son.
Massachusetts versus Tennessee next.
I know which one I would vote.
We're actually seeing the spikes come out here.
Even though we lost a couple of people,
I feel like this is a really cool part of the fight
that we don't get to see too much
because when these rings come out,
they have a very specific pattern
been doing really well at kind of dodging them together but yeah it's already over
we're moving on. Yeah they made it into phase three. They pressed that blow bus
button in theory they don't want to be pressing it for another couple of minutes
trying to make sure that they get the double damage amp before pressing it.
And it looks like they just come over here into the corner to stack the
bosses up and also spread the reds from the blues. Over here what's coming
up next here, Web Vortex, okay, so they're gonna get sucked together, have to spread
out, but then also keep some of these tethers alive, are they that...
Yeah, they need them, yes.
Yeah, they need to be able to keep three of the tethers alive, or three pairs of the
tethers, sorry, so six of them.
Okay, they're gonna do this dance, and also get these mugs.
Yeah, this is where they wipe last time when we were looking at the pole.
Oh, did one of them snap?
Oh no, they're good.
No, they're fine, they're fine, they're fine, they're fine.
This is perfect.
Okay, cool.
So now the Boston and the Damage Amp.
This is great.
I'm always terrified when I see how far he charges because it looks like he's almost going to hit the wall
Yeah, I wonder what the reasoning is to have them get wrapped like right there. I guess just so they're not moving around too much I
Don't think they need to maintain
Six of these players with that strand right there. Yeah, it looks like they broke those in media. What?
It looks like they broke them. I can't 100% tell
Yeah, they look all broken. Oh, okay. So now they're doing the dispel on the boss again. Oh
Yeah, you can see the numbers on the raid frames. Yep. I'm always looking at that too
You got one last player to get dispelled and then they're gonna be able to get the damage amp on this boss
once more
Yep, now the bosses you see dazed on the screen taking a hundred percent increased damage
You're getting nice to try to cleave here
And they're working their way to almost a new best here. Yeah, it might actually turn out to be one
Yeah, they unfortunately don't have lost they would probably be losting about this point. We're losting
No, no, we lost it. We lost a little. What's that that? It just lit up
I don't know. I thought we lost it. I think that might be the... I think that at least has an 8-minute CD
I think that's the scale commander. Yeah, it's probably the scale commander time
and the skill commander lost due to the aspects thing,
if they get occasionally.
All right.
So now they need to keep three of these people alive.
They're also doing this at the exact same time
as the dispel.
So whenever I was talking about it earlier,
how they can get both of the bosses simultaneous
with the damage.
Oh my God!
No!
With the simultaneous damage,
that's when you do it right there.
But you actually probably wanna charge the boss
in the middle of the room.
That way it's stacked on top of the boss
whenever it pours.
Okay, and that's an 830-ish pole when they wipe, so it's an 830 when they want to press their lust, that makes sense.
Yeah, about there, and then they'll have that kind of tune range. I bet they can do like 30% of the boss's health on that lust or something crazy.
Well, we are going to be taking a monster energy listen-in to hear what the raiders have to say. They're definitely not talking about states.
Wait, we got to debate states.
Let's hear that monster energy listen-in.
You know
Someone probably got hit by the front. I'm assuming that yeah, that's what it is. I love the new PB
That's not really a PB. Okay, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, that's my brother. That's also that isn't you that isn't even hard
That's like easy. Yeah, that was simple
Okay, is there a good PV of someone who wasn't dead the whole time? I
Wasn't like that right there. Okay, so let's watch this so we're doing live as well beautiful
Okay, so we're doing the first
thing good blast good now we're all
sitting here you guys are baiting the
frontal okay dang skills to re-impact you
guys are hard-griefing you guys want to
be like over here baiting this so we
can uh like basically max melee hip
box here so we can run there you guys
you guys baited the frontal here you
would have killed that was something I
had the wrong way but I couldn't make it anyway
because I couldn't make that.
Goop saved the whole raid but yeah you
guys should just be stacked together
as a group. Why are we at the top of the charge so we just need to move over the
That's the charge beam stuff right we got to just come back because you have to bait a frontal here
And if you don't you're gonna kill fucking everybody
Okay, so goop baited that perfectly
Again, if it would have picked wow if it would have picked passion exile dumpy impact siri or dank who would have died
We had a 40% chance
Good job
Okay, teach me tried to get there which was good
But what you guys would do is you'd put a gateway down and you'd take it in three two go you date
And then blue would just be running here with a new brash full DPS uptime and then we do this now
It's left and right right so you guys can either go left or right. You'd probably just go right here though
Right, that's always right for sure. Yeah, just always go right with red here and then just snap your orbs
You don't need to keep these
Okay, and then you guys are running out and blues running through to soak your shit super easy that work just fine
And then we're getting to spell debuffs
For what it's worth by the way these first to spell debuffs it will be blue debuffs first so hardy will be first here
I can do the other ones. We
called it. We got the ones I
can probably how long is it
until the teleport from the
D. Bill Scott? Eight seconds.
I'd like to get to. I can get
to I can easily get to. Okay,
and then we'll do three in the
middle if you didn't. Hey,
little little dammy amp. And
then next is the. So what
happens after this? We get
teleport to the wall. Red
goes all the way to the wall.
Yeah, and this is why I had
it the way I did. So I had
red here, but I had blue in
the middle because I want. I
thought red would want to
would want to like go and soak them in the middle.
Gibson and I talked about this during the break.
If you guys would soak this, you'd all go right and keep your shit.
Okay, blue gets sucked in, they're going to go right and left, cool.
But like now you guys can pre-soak this, and you're like already there,
because he's burrowing right now.
So like wouldn't you want to have all these soaked?
Yeah, it's good.
Okay, yeah. And then you guys can do this.
You need to stop him further back as well, towards the middle,
so we can clean like 30 yards back.
Wait, we actually had a web.
No. Why?
I mean, I'm easily linked with the epsinators across, so it's just...
Yeah, where do we have pairs?
Yeah, do we have any...
We should...
Another room here?
Yeah, that's what I said.
Yeah, I think we should, like, uh...
No, no, no, the boss...
The boss...
One second, guys.
The boss needs to get stopped, like, in the direct middle of the room here.
We want to stop him here.
Because you're going to be full-DPSing him, and then you're going to get...
We already have two dispels on the boss.
We're gonna get the last three dispels on the boss and it's gonna be the red people who are already here
You're gonna get the spells on the red people and then he's already damaged amp
And then as soon as his damage amp is over about halfway through it there will be a dispelled damage amp on this guy
So you want you want him to get stopped here, right?
Are you gonna last like a bit earlier than this so far for the red orbs there on the charge
We can just go into the charging a nation to solve the red orbs right click right there
I'm just saying like if you want to get this done early, it's very safe there, you can easily do assigned range pairs there if all ever in life, right, you would just do like one here, one here, one there.
Yeah, but we do it sometimes.
one here, one here, one there. Yeah, but we really do it. It goes on sometimes.
There's nine people here, so it's going to be fun. So how stuff like this works, I don't
need to describe it, but with 10 people alive, if all of you are stacked on a partner, it
will absolutely work. It works every time. At least maybe 10 seconds. But yeah, it would
be ideal. How many range we have in this group? We have six on our side, so it's
picked. So it would be exact. Yeah, you would want exact rangers there. And then
you guys would go like far mid here while the melee are hitting and then the
red would follow important red melee that you would like I feel like you're
gonna want to be there when the damage amp starts so like I don't think you're
gonna want to be here you're like you want to be hitting this guy in Tilly
teleports but after he teleports you're gonna want to be running mid so the
blue team can get full uptime how are we running to meet the building because
they were gonna soak you're soaking these red orbs and then he's running
after the middle you just walk on them you should just run all the way to
the boss red shouldn't be here red should be 20 yards in the other
direction. Yeah, okay. Important red. I need you guys to know that like red melee. You are
not hitting Skynesman right now. He's teleporting in fucking two seconds. We're about to get
a 24 second damage amp with lust. Like just fucking get ready to hit this guy. So blue
can get full up time because if you guys are here, it's like roadblock time.
I was coming. I went to where it is. You said there they
are, whatever you guys are standing are 20 yards in the wrong direction. You guys
should be way over here. So he stops correct. Yeah, which side are blue going
to uh there so okay here's where we are in the room right now for we're doing
where's the double damage amp one the double damage amp right so red you guys
are like stop these are the red range you guys need to be here to like stop
this shit further I think you know yeah yeah cuz it's going to be like 10
hours yeah so you need to be like here ready for the damn which is good
because you want to be pre-casting on him anyway right he's gonna be he's
gonna be here before he charges. These guys are here, and then red melee should be like
heading here when he's charging, right? So, I honestly think you guys should just be here.
Like, I don't know. You should probably just like fucking be ready to hit this guy. Like,
you could hit that guy for a little bit, beating to be heading here, and then where
blue can go. Blue is currently soaking their red orbs, and they're hitting this guy
before he teleports, and then they're just running here and getting ready for the
damage and in this side of the boss should probably be red in this side of
the boss should probably be blue we're where do those web bombs spawn for this
break are they on the right side of the wall and they have to like run it
it's from the right side yeah okay so then so they have to run like half a
cross room into the position no yeah so what we're doing is we're having blue
like start all what I had them do is start their shit way out here so they
can soak it and that seemed to really work but blue news there
They're locked gate since we weren't using earlier to get slight to the moon
Yeah, TFT could could leave a gate from blue to soak here and then gate to mid. Yeah
Wouldn't it be splat
Yeah, we just made it like we would just place it as we're back there with the boss as the damage
What's happening this side of the room is blue and this side of the room is red
Yeah, where you guys are ready for the end
Also, how tired are those that smells like?
Well, they're just getting fucking owned in the raid, so I don't know if we did two kills or not. I think definitely killed some people.
I mean, I was dead because I had to suck a comp or a red.
I was going to say you can just do one to spell instead of two.
Alright, here we go.
I can do one to spell, and we can do four during the damage amp, I guess.
And just going to be, unfortunately, doing less damage because the boss will have less of an amp during the damage amp, unfortunately.
We can always do more later, but I think we'll stay in fire.
Well, you wanted to do that earlier.
I mean, yeah, I mean, if we're going to die, obviously,
we can't send them.
Yeah, then we're going to use sort of our weapons here.
Well, I mean, I only sent one before I imported.
He's a part of that forever.
But where are the devos here?
So Boomi, I just said Boomi, go.
I just saw that.
I did that.
I feel like I need to.
I feel like having both blue people go there early
is really good, because red's like in the middle already
where the next boss is going to be.
Yeah, I mean, I think they're going to learn about you a lot,
but maybe it is that it's trying to get you.
We had healers dead.
Yeah, we're probably fine.
I doubt anybody pressed the first one.
What's the ease that we have for that?
We had Driney's AM up, we had Riku's Rally,
we had Wings, we had, we don't have any like rewinds
or anything like that.
We should also external four and five, like Max,
get five off the track, Stasis, I mean, should I put Stasis in?
I don't want to see that shit.
Honestly, that's good. That's like our whole evening. That's like more than two
I know, I thought faces there, and we still died, so...
I'll suck five every time. I think I can only have a little bit of a little bit of a
range problem in this case.
It's like tracking roger.
It's like tracking events basically, yeah.
You guys need the personal if you get a dot. I'm sure you are.
But uh, I'll save you after this call.
So I had Blues spawn their shit in the middle. I think you just have to do that.
and red, I think you need to pre-go to the middle before the charge, and I think you're
kind of baiting yourself by not being there anyway, because like, if you're hitting that
other guy full-time, you're just going to be two seconds late to the damaging. So, I just,
I don't know, that's going to be good. That'd be good. Alright, let's do that with just
everyone alive. Also, that pull, the first intermission, was fucking so easy. I watched
like the blue group is called like when it's the one that you took all the way
responds one by one yeah but I think we have a thing going all the way and it's
good if we do the entire way all the way that time yeah that was the first
somewhere down though
I should have worked it out
rotating 3, 2, 1
as you're spawning
21 red, so being in there
yeah, it's fine, you have 5 more to go
you have 5 seconds, grab them
3 orbs, still 3
we got them, nice good job
red have like a total meant you'd be there
no way to hit sir
It's been, like, a couple hours, but I'm right here to drink my can of water.
Keep going. Are you going to res-grine ill-res-tory later?
Line...
Do not take a drine until he blows up.
He's grinding green.
Yup, he's grinding, fine.
Two more red orbs somewhere.
Oh, I see them. Hardy's grabbing one. We're good.
Res-tory in 15. We need to do anything else for this damage here.
Left bombs, Michael. We're fine. Get him up right away.
You're gonna have to get him fucking instantly get him now
Yeah, and then we're rotating now go we got
We need some help out in range here range mean bloopers come on rain. We got it. We got it. Good. Bye
You can go that thing
What yeah, the how's that to happen the dragons on the sides are getting closer and closer for every
Every pole for like the last couple hours. All right dragons go back
I just right quick to turn the camera nose right on the gateway. Oh
You just took the gate. Yeah, cuz turn my camera
Hey, my dragon you mean web bombs fighting dragons. Yeah
All right web bombs flying dragons revert
just like instead of a we were doing a part left and right of saying before but
now it's like back left and back right of saying and then there's an overlap
and it's popping up.
The cast is not close enough, it's not doing that.
Should pull those out of damage anyways.
And we're back after that monster energy listen in.
We did see a pretty good pull right before that and then a lot of
discussion on what could it be done even better in this specific pole to
see even further of course one of the I believe jack called them clothes lines
the webs wasn't in place where it should be but also a lot of the healer
cooldowns being kind of arranged there our battle of the states is also still
ongoing no worries it kept happening while we were on break here but
raiders are going back to back trying to get back to those really good
progress tries I think it helps that this fights pre-determined yes that's
very scripted. I think in the listening we heard Max, you know they said the
dragons are too close, dragons go back. So what they're doing is in that range
group they're baiting like so many of those web wrap things onto the people
and they just kind of like pop them to get them out of the way and I don't
know the exact like logic of them if they go on like somehow they're making
it so that three spawn in range and then like three kind of near melee
which they then used to trap the boss. I don't know, I can see the three
this time? Yeah, they missed one there. But that's a clever strat. I know Echo is
baiting to the back and they're having that like range clump to it because like
if everybody's kind of in melee then it clusters it all together and the baiting
the mechanics it reminds me of like Sarkarath where you could do things in
a specific way to make the mechanics on where you want them to like every
single time like there was no variability and it looks like those web
Little cocoon things are the same way
Well Hawaii is it taking on New York? Yeah, I did. Yeah, I think Hawaii is
Getting carried by tourism a little bit. Yeah, the rainbow. I mean it's a nice
The rock region no?
It's incredibly expensive to live in because I have to import everything
Thus
You know kind of kind of difficult to live in for your like day-to-day life very nice beautiful place to
visit and go on vacation though yeah yeah my grandma was in Hawaii really yeah
on holidays oh my gosh that's cool no that's very yeah it's like a for a
very far very far not that nothing New York is not
expensive I don't think it was also quite expensive no but I bet there have been
way more people have gone to New York than to Hawaii
yeah so you're probably right a lot of people I bet there's a lot of people
voting for why they've never been.
Maine is clearing Connecticut.
I would tend to agree.
Lobsters.
It's the tippy top one.
That's what I know.
Yeah, that's the high.
What does that mean?
The northernmost point to the continental 48.
OK.
It's like a sneak step there.
Yeah, it's getting up there.
Northern more than most of Canada.
Most of the Canadian citizens, sorry, not more.
Do you know what in German when you say tip top,
you mean some things like great
yeah, tipped up
tipped up?
we'll take you to Seattle
awesome, tipped up?
that's the word
you know what's tipped up
monster energy
yeah
yeah, very good
ht
that's a rehab one
I thought I had enough caffeine
well this one is good
and then I had just eaten pizza
slotted up more
well this is like gamer
you're gonna be on for until the after dark
so you'll be here for a while
Yeah, I'm in my land party mode right now.
In my late night caffeine, pizza, and World of Warcraft.
It does not get better than this,
and I've been doing it for 20 years, so.
We have a new copy Passat coming up as well.
It says, fraternal arachnids,
all friends web over head bud,
exchange weight, it's barring,
exchange orbs of color,
magical removal near bug,
circumvent silly circles,
web again for final comeuppance.
I like this one. This is a good copy-paste.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
Eternal Arachnids.
Mm-hmm.
Spread Friends over Web...
Wait, oh, it's moving fast.
Spread Friends over Web Headbutt.
Oh.
Headbutt.
Spread Friends over Web Headbutt.
Change of Orbs of Color.
Mm-hmm.
Magical Removal Near Bug.
Circumvent Silly Circles.
Bring Web again for Final Comeuppance.
I like the word comeuppance.
we got Colorado here cleaning New Mexico up New Mexico where breaking bad
was Santa Fe is the capital Albuquerque is there yeah breaking bad was yeah
Walter White is somewhere in the state no spoilers Jesse Pinkman though
somewhere yeah maybe in the state who knows better colesol also what are what
he's doing right now it's all good but what are you doing either of you watch
those shows breaking that I know I didn't I didn't watch better colesol I
watched breaking that like the first couple of episodes because people kept
Kept telling me how good it was but I didn't vibe with it. Wow. Yeah, what are you picking between Utah and Minnesota makes?
Utah Minnesota, yeah, you know
Utah I think getting destroyed, but I'm on the sides of camps. Yeah, I might start like I want to be able to afford a house
So don't come to Utah. It's
you don't want to be there the
The pollution gets stuck in the mountains in the winter.
All the smoke comes in from California.
You can't breathe in the summer.
I hate it.
Yeah, it's such a bad thing.
Freezing, dirty and cold in the winter and wet.
It's very hot and dry in the summer.
Don't come there.
Please, I need to be able to afford the house, the housing.
It's getting crazy.
I do not have a million dollars.
Please do not come to Utah.
So it's got the people who sound like they're Canadian occasionally. Oh, yeah. Yeah, bigamilt
Yeah, kind of like that. Yeah
Does this drop a beggar?
Hmm
I just saw some of the chat about the games. Oh my god
I don't play well. Can anyone explain to me what the reset is? Yeah, so
So, the way a lot of the rewards work in World of Warcraft, which is what WoW stands for, is
you can only do certain content once every week, and the reset of that content happens
on Tuesdays.
It's on a quote-unquote lockout, right, where you can only do it one time and get looped
for it, where you can only kill it one time, and it's, yeah, it's just basically time-gated
content sometimes for the replaying of the map.
Yeah, yeah, there's things that are daily and things that are weekly and the weekly stuff.
You can only do one a week and then, yeah, it resets on Tuesday.
Most of the time, whenever people are talking about the reset or a lockout,
they're talking about like a weekly lockout, although it's sometimes, yeah, like I'm just saying, it's daily.
This is actually an insanely good poll here.
46.7% on the boss, as it actually is going into that second intermission.
I believe that's the lowest we've ever seen.
Yeah.
Normally the boss is like 50% whenever they're going into this intermission.
So the fact that they're at 46 and a half is quite good and like you pointed out makes, again, no, no lust has been pressed yet.
We're going to be looking to press that lust around the 830 mark. The, the end range on the fight is about nine minutes.
But the bigger reason that we're going to be pressing that lust about that 830 mark is because there's a double vulnerability window where both of the bosses are going to be taking 100% increased damage.
Typically it's seen as better to lust on pull because it just, everybody's offensive CDs are available and so it just makes a lot more sense.
So everybody's lined up correctly, but there's a very specific instance where you wouldn't lust on pull and of course it happens whenever
Both of the boss are taking 100% increased damage
This was a really good intermission as well. We didn't lose anyone due to the orbs
It's really hard to dodge gear and exchange the modes whenever you have those spikes come up
And so now we're gonna get to that same part where we did have that wipe before listening
So they need to make sure they have those closed pins
Closed lines pinned up three of them to stop that boss
Not charge them into the walls gonna be happening very very soon. Yeah, we'll see them all build that kind of neck
So looking at this web vortex here basically sometimes these players need to stay
Bound to one another right they need to and then they need to dash that head
But through three of these webs it looks like they actually have four players of players that are still tethered together
not a big deal. THD and it looks like Goop and I'm
XL all end up going down. We are we are going to have a battle risk for one of
those players. It's unfortunate they that those players did end up dying
because I think that we're going to be seeing a new best pull here and then
again lost is going to be in about a minute and a half whenever the boss
gets that 100% damage and both the bosses get that but we need to
continue to be able to see the boss and the fourth player ends up going
down with a lip.
That's cool.
That's okay.
We have a new best try coming in here for Team Liquid on the Silkencourt.
We're going to be seeing how far they can keep it going.
You were saying the end rate comes in at like 930, so we still have a little bit of extra
time checking in with our weak aura on Fired Up at the very top there.
We're not very close to making that damage checkpoint, at least not right now, but
that's okay.
at the very beginning of seeing this face for the first time.
We're still needing to learn a lot,
and this is where that Lutlust is going to be used to double-amp
on both of these bosses to try and get as much of the HP.
Yeah, it wasn't pressed yet.
I think it's going to be pressed in about another 45 seconds or so.
We're going to see that boss headbutt as it goes all the way across the arena.
You really want to, so the Web Vortex is going to grip these players in.
They're going to be linked.
Not all of their players are going to be clearing that link.
That's that's the important thing is that not everybody's putting that link and then they want to dash that boss
Have have that boss gets stunned out into the middle of the room
that way you can additionally get all of the five dispells that you need to be able to
Remove the disease off of the players making sure that you get all five of those dispells dealt with and now the lust is being pressed right here
And this is exactly you need to be able to cancel that big boom and the bosses HP should just be absolutely melting
Unfortunately, they lost THC to the spell.
Okay, they did get the stun, they did the double damage amp,
they didn't overlap for very long, maybe not at all.
Yeah, I don't think they did at all, but that's it.
That's how it's supposed to look in theory, right?
Yeah. That's how it's supposed to look.
Let's look at fire it up. Is fire it up still alive?
Yeah, right. Okay, let's check it.
Yeah, so, the health bar says we go boom now.
Okay, maybe it's just nine. That would be nine minutes.
Yeah, big red logs.
Oh, that's...
Okay, so the bosses are definitely enraged they're big and red and auto attacking Scott. Yeah, it's got down. Okay now
Yep, it's gonna follow
So but you can still get a lot of damage here. We're not 10 seconds into this hold on
Let's go. Yeah, a second
Hold on wait
So wait, wait, what's gonna wipe them from here? Oh, okay nevermind. Okay, right down. Yeah, I see what the issue is
But that's still like 30 seconds. You can probably look at that enrage. He's looking a little smug there
He just lived with his auto attacks.
He looks like he just got away with murder.
My bad.
I did not know you had it like that.
Hello?
Does this boss die tonight?
That's a great question.
Now Yipz was able to tank that fight for probably 20 seconds during the in-rage.
But then whenever the boss started to do that mass AoE where they got the bugs out and
is pulsing AoE damage, that wipes the rest of the raid.
So that happened at the 9-3 more.
But 14% we had so many players dead.
It looks...
Okay, I'm gonna go on a limb here and I'll say it looks doable.
Their lust also was too early, is what I'm gonna say.
Their lust was probably 10 or 15 seconds too early.
We're gonna be taking a look at that replay and see what just happened here as Team Liquid
has claimed yet another new best try and seen very, very far into that boss fight
up until that end rage did come through and as you can see we did have a couple people already down
we were lost to one of those first charges coming on through i'm pretty sure that would have been 14%
so i think the reason that they pressed it that early is because they knew the end
rage was nine minutes but i don't think that they anticipated to be able to sit in the end
rage for another 20 seconds on top of it so i suspect that that that lust is going to get
pushed back just a little bit to be just a hair more optimal so everybody's going to be able to
Press those Spine Masters webs, press those Mad Queens mandates,
press all of your execute style effects as well. I mean obviously they're already execute, but like
pressing all of that with that lust, this is going to be huge push once they start moving that lust
back a little bit further. I think this is sick. I mean yeah they're down, Junako and
Exile, but the subrogue does so much damage in those ants, and Junako, he's on his mage,
correct? Yes, mage is probably the best spec in the game at that, yeah 100%.
100% and I wouldn't be surprised that they're
Popping the loss a little early just to have a feelers because the web takes really hard to execute
There's so much damage towards the end of that flight
Do you fired up just ended up ascending on the damage meter look at the bottom right?
He started out and he was like in fourth place and then this loss came out and the damage amp happened
And it all the timings are just so good for fighter mage on this or archane mage on this fight where
You know you just get this now this would have been dead. I'm actually I'm not even gonna like
Pretend that there's a doubt in my mind about it if they had everyone alive here this boss would have yeah that is
Absolutely killable, which is insane to me
Yeah, everybody went into this one especially after seeing Kai Vezza and brood twister going like what are we gonna 500 poles?
What is it gonna be but it's actually
fairly manageable fight kind of
this is I think my poll prediction for this one was like 120 or 150 in that range
so like this is he looks at Yip's face he's like ha ha ha
million helps that he was staggering before he pressed purifying bro he knows
he's about to just completely die
that is sick okay yeah this seems tuned about what people expect bosses to be
tuned like like the other two. So it's killable. It is killable. Huh. It's absolutely killable.
They can kill this tonight. They need one good try. A try like this with more players
alive and it is dead. Chad, I've been standing for probably 10 minutes there while we were
on the pool. Yeah, Tatl's was freedancing to get rid of all of those emotions. Oh
my gosh. I love in progression when you have that spot you're going to lust and
you pop it with everybody alive that first time. That's one of the best feelings.
You just feel like you are melting the boss.
When they're both damage amped, they can get that to line up perfectly because it's still
very hard because they need to go in the middle with the dispels, but the boss is also charging
through the middle and the wet people and the people with the dispel are getting destroyed.
It's a huge dot.
But when it all lines up, everyone's alive and if they both get amped on top of each
other, bosses, what do you think they can do in the last 25%?
I was just gonna get 15 or 20 probably.
Yeah, they're gonna get blasted.
But yeah, the boss should absolutely just get smoked
during that blow-blast.
It's a 45-second window where probably about 15 seconds
or 20 seconds of it, both of the bosses
are taking 100% increased damage.
It's not like an overlap.
There's an overlap for a little bit of it.
It's not like a permanent overlap or anything like that.
But if you can get it even closer
in terms of the overlap,
you could absolutely be able to kill it.
And here's the thing about killing this fight today.
It's not about the loot, although it's kind of about the loot.
But it's not exactly about the loot.
The big advantage of being able to kill it today
is being able to see Queen Ansarek off stream,
because we're so late into the night
that they would go dark, pull Ansarek a couple of times,
kind of keep that to themselves
as to what they've seen with the fight,
have their analyst maybe even zone into this raid
after the raiders have left,
and they will pull Ansarek for themselves
to look at any specific stuff,
get some week or as prepared,
get some timings prepared,
and just get ready for the boss
because there's some things
that are in the dungeon journal about Ansarik.
We know a couple of things like the froth.
There's five froth circles.
You have to blow them up one second apart.
But beyond that, there's not much we necessarily know
about the fight from the dungeon journal.
And so being able to get that pulled first
and have that information to yourself,
that's a huge deal.
So let's kind of look at the time for today, because right now we're approaching that kind of 8pm marker.
In the past couple of days they've been calling it between 11pm and 12pm.
So they have at least 3-4 hours in today, which allows for, I would say, ample progress on this boss
and potentially a kill, like that is enough time to get a try where you don't have 4 players dead for several minutes on end
on end and especially during that Bloodlust. And 14% is not that much.
No, yeah. They had 3-4 people dead for a long time there and got 2 of them or the big boss
beaters.
During that Bloodlust, the Spymasters wasn't there for Dranaco, so that is so much damage.
I'm actually shocked that this is killable.
Lip being dead there, especially since you're in it. So basically the DKs work really
well whenever the bosses are both being able to be targeted they're not great
whenever one of them is like borrowed in the other you're just hitting like a
single target one they're really good whenever both of them are up and so that
phase right there for a lift he would have just sent it on the boss and they
can stay up longer tonight too they know maintenance is at least until 10 probably
well I mean the in a maintenance is kind of weird is that way where it can
you just tighten for it to come up earlier oh yeah true could come up
earlier this happened and we had like I remember this we had like a phone call
system set up where you know every person calls like two more people it's
like a phone chain so they would wake up and a bunch of the raiders didn't pick
up yeah and so they cannot be trusted to do that again well yeah yeah I think
we talked in one of the interviews with max after it was a night I think
If you are able to kill this boss tonight, you would even take like an hour less tomorrow.
Because seeing Ancerek for the reasons that you outline titles would be so big.
Oh yeah, I mean it would be. I mean the gear is great.
And having that boss for your vault also phenomenal.
But the gear is like almost a secondary goal, just being able to get Ancerek pulled first.
Yeah.
Off-screen is like, that's money.
That's gin.
We need that, yeah.
Yeah, I think it's worth going late, like pushing for a kill on this side.
Max was very against it on Kaiveza.
He was like, why would we do that?
What do we gain from that?
This week's going to another reset.
There's no point in stressing our sleep to just try and get, you know, like,
just try and beat Echo to the kill for the sake of that boss.
We got a classic player here.
What does having the boss in your vault mean?
So there's a system on retail that we call the Great Vault.
And the Great Vault rewards you for doing activities in the game.
The three main pillars of the Great Vault right now are Mythic Floss, Raid, and World Content,
aka like Delves and like a little quest and stuff like that.
And so you're promoted to be able to fill out slots in your vault,
to be able to get gear of a specific type and be more activities that you complete.
and it's one dungeon, four dungeons, or eight dungeons, and then it's two bosses, four bosses,
or six bosses, and then it's, I don't even know what the delve number is, but I think it's 248.
248 delves, yeah, something like that. Whenever you're filling out those slots in the vault,
then you're able, on the reset, to be able to hand pick an item out of the vault
that has to do with what the content that you did was. So for Mythic Plus, it's an item
from the entire Mythic Plus loot pool, potentially, like all of the dungeon pool at specific item levels.
For raids, those items in your vaults are based off of the bosses that you've killed, or it could be any item from any of the bosses that you've killed up until.
And so, having an item from Silkencourt, there's a lot of very valuable pieces of gear that are from Silkencourt.
Additionally, the gear that you get from Silkencourt at the baseline is just like slightly higher item level than the rest of the raids gear.
Not that you can't upgrade it, but you're able to save some crests on that.
And so, having those items available in your vault, particularly the items like the Spymaster's Web,
that's the one I think that's the huge one for a lot of the players, is having access to one of the most powerful trinkets in the game.
Potentially in your vault, that would be big.
Yeah. Yeah, and the vault's just so good because these raiders, they're gonna have 8 choices from the Riddick boss, they've done all of them.
They probably don't care about the delve.
And then, depending on how many bosses they were slaughtered into,
They I guess they could if they kill this
If someone was in I guess on every boss up to now they'd have all three choices
And so then they're gonna have six choices of gear to choose from and you're hoping that one of us is an upgrade
I think early enough in the season that one of them is definitely gonna be an upgrade and
Like then you just get a pick, you know
They'll reclear the raid do heroic and then you can use this last spot to be like, okay
I didn't get a chest, but there's one of my box and it just gives you flexibility
eliminate some of the randomness
good try for impact
i just want to say
you know that that shaman comes with a little bit of randomness there but
working in a labor here
uh... unfortunately we do have
we have two people going down here sevian atlas
one better rest is available they're going to try to see
this fight for as long as possible despite their deaths
hold on they've announced
Rude twister, mythic hotfixes, uh, so...
I'll take a look after this try. I'll bring them up.
Rude twister, mythic hotfixes, what is, what else is something?
Season one hotfixes, the subterranean one, what is this?
Somebody just texted me about it.
Yeah, yeah, I have it open. We'll take a look at it after this poll.
Alright, very good.
Okay, interesting. I don't want to look.
Yeah, if I was making the decision
and the polls continue to look pretty clean, I think you just
go tell us it's dead or it's like two in the morning because the the info they
get is gonna be ridiculous because then they'll have an idea like that is the
best time to see the end boss is right before bed on a reset day
absolutely then they'll know it like okay we don't even have to or well I mean
maybe they need to pull it a lot before they want to settle in a comp but
they'll get a good idea on what's good and what they need you know like
maybe the phase one damage check is enormous.
I think the intermission and a couple of other things
are gonna be a little bit weird,
but I think that one of the things that they need to know
is like what is the melee versus range split
gonna be looking like as well on this boss?
Because this tier has been so melee heavy
in terms of what you wanna bring,
but what is that melee versus range split really gonna be?
Yeah, like they're gonna get so many items next week
and they're already all like looted out.
So if they need to just say gear up
like a second or third rogue,
They can do that so easily next week, but if they know, they need to do it.
We're going to be taking a look at that blue post right now.
It's a long blue post.
It has a lot of fixes for mythic plots, for delves, for some class bugs that persisted.
And the big ones are here in near of our palace.
Raiders are buckling up to pole again.
So we'll just quickly rush through them, secret and now resetting properly.
We have a health reduced on the parasites, the spiders, and also the healing absorb of the unstable infusion is reduced on Brute Twister.
So that fight just got a lot easier.
We have an issue with piercing strike being fixed.
That is the one that we were talking about earlier, so no one tanking on Silkencourt.
And then we have a couple of bug fixes for Ancerac, which are not that relevant yet, as we haven't seen a thick Ancerac yet.
But that is of course for other difficulties as well.
Where's the princess?
Where's the next princess changes?
Like what?
She hid it.
Huh?
How did she?
That is the boss, where you really would have liked to.
All right, so we'll be solo tanking it for Reeflear, I guess.
Apparently.
I do think with how much room, both Ekko and Liquid Hat,
I didn't see the method track or kill.
But with how much room Ekko and Liquid Hat,
I think they can two tank it too.
Why would you?
Well, if they feel like that's more stable, because then you have the bad arrests available.
Yeah, they, I mean, I feel like Liquid's kill was so clean, they could,
they could have potentially, like it would have been mathematically possible for them to two
tank it this week. Whether that's the smartest thing to do, probably not. I think, you know,
one tanking was a good call. But, yeah.
So I think with the additional gear, I think it's a two-tank box with how close it was before.
You're probably getting 4 or 5% damage here, but you're losing the Vantas runes.
Yeah, you lose the Vantas also.
But the Vantas isn't that strong, this expansion.
Yeah, so it's a 2.4% damage here.
The problem is, a tank is about 75% of the damage of a DPS,
and the DPS are somewhere between 17%-ish to like the overall damage to the boss.
So you know the tank is probably about that five and a half, five percent mark,
and so that's about offset by the Vantus rune. So with the damage game, we'll be able to kill it,
I guess we really wanted to tank. It's not going to be comfortable.
Yeah, I mean I think it's not going to be comfortable either way.
Liquid would have only had, in all of their attempts, six kills total.
with the next resets gear basically so I don't know it's kind of weird that way
but if you're able to reintroduce the second tank and then you'll be able to
have the battle res and so there's gonna be a little bit more consistency should
be easier. Racer will first kill it's about a really easy time of doing farm
the past couple of resets we've kind of always talked about how reset might be
brutal they've always over performed the reset even a fight like 10 roll
the spatulas pretty quickly. Yeah I think stone lades general also is one
of those, like, what's it gonna be like? I think it was pretty quick. And, and, you
know, they'd have the pressures off. They want to kill Kaiba as a next week quick.
I mean, that's probably the biggest looming threat in the reset, but they
did so many pulls on it, and it's just kind of like built into their, like,
muscle memory now that I can see that thing going down. I could see them
even one-shotting it. It all comes back. I saw comment chat saying, if they
to kill, so if they're caught tonight, they'll probably extend on answer.
Can you explain why that would never happen, Cam's?
Well, it would never extend, yeah.
So people don't know, you can, that weekly lockout we talked about, you can actually
extend it, meaning they don't have to kill all the bosses up to wherever they are,
but then that means they're also not getting the items.
So you would only extend if you didn't think the items would help you kill the
boss.
Also, if that couple hours of re-clearing is what you think is going to be the missing
thing for you getting world first, this happened on Gahoon, the limit, back in Old Deer.
They did not have, I think the Adventist, was it Mythrax before Gahoon?
No, they, oh yeah, the Adventist Mythrax, and then they extended because they could
they nerfed Vantus from reset one to reset two.
Yeah, but anyways, you can extend the raid so that they could,
like if they extended it now, they would just be right at Soap & Court.
But they just wouldn't do that because the amount of items and power you get from the Reclear
and it only costs like a couple hours.
You know, they've spent like way more time doing splits and heroic to get some of those items
than they would doing Reclear next week.
So the only reason to do it is if it's like, if we don't extend, like a Hail Mary play,
like if we don't extend we lose anyways, so we'll just take this gamble.
Yeah, but it's so, it's a game of resources, right?
Everything in the race to world first comes down to how do you use your time and what do
you do with it?
And a big part of that is obviously boss progression, like how fast can you progress
through these bosses, given like, how fast do you kill it for the sheer amount
of progress time.
But that's also why we see splits, even though they're quite time-intensive,
they give a lot of gear that upgrades these characters, that makes these fights in return easier.
So the amount of Reclear would only ever be not worth it if there was a boss.
Like let's say you look at Nexus Princess,
and you think the gear that you get before Nexus Princess
is not enough to offset that Ventus,
so that you'll actually have a very long Reclear to try and figure that boss out
without the Ventus. Then you could start saying okay maybe there's a chance but
it's just not realistic in today's world with how much gear you get every single
week we have crafts coming in we have a finished spark that will be available
next ID so there is going to be a lot a lot of extra gear that will come to
these characters that it just doesn't make any sense to say they won't
to extend. They will, or they will extend. They will 100% reset, they will
re-clear, they will probably even do splits. It's still valuable for some of these
characters and then we'll see them back at Silkencourt.
I bet they don't do splits until they are on AntsRec.
I didn't see that. They might just start Tuesday re-clearing as far as they can
get in the raid. If they've killed Silkencourt tonight, then they probably
kill it tomorrow pretty quick and then they'll save splits for like they're
gonna have a lot of downtime and strat talking on Ansarac where like the
analysts who aren't in the raid have to like strategize and maybe make some weak
auras and go through like you know figure out what they want to do and then
instead of having the raiders just sit there and listen it'd be like okay you
guys to go do splits while we figure this out so they can use that like
you're saying so much about this time management and that's a way to be efficient with your time.
I think that extending your lockout is more of a thing that you would do if you're a two-night
a week guild or a three-night a week guild and you know you have a lot of limited time.
Liquid rates more in a day than most guilds rate in an entire week.
was it um avarice? we're smaller on a lot of guilds kind of extend it once they clear it
smaller on a mirror drizzle yeah yeah close enough a mirror drizzle a lot of guilds kind
of extended from there and out so lower tier guilds like your average all the fame guilds and low
well lower I didn't say lower than liquid and echo and method and so on um they started
Extending their walkouts because they were like we don't need any gear. We already have everything looted on the previous bosses
That we could need and it's just a waste of time for us to re-clear these bosses because there is no upgrades
Dragonflight has this phenomenon where very infrequently
Did you actually need more gear to be able to kill the last boss of mythic?
More often than not you're continuing to get like a lot more gear historically
Speaking you're getting a lot more gear from from re-clear, but on week eight week nine week ten
the vault is just so powerful that you don't really have the amount of
gear that you'd be gained, the amount of damage that you're going to gain is probably like
half a percent or something like that, where you're better off just, you know,
you're only raiding 16 hours a week or some 12 hours a week, 8 hours a week.
You'd rather spend all 8 hours progming this one boss as opposed to
taking your time and spending it on farm. Yeah, but this tier, there's so
much potential upgrades that they will get with this. This is, I mean, it's
It's also week two, right?
It is, yeah.
That's a big portion of it.
But even with that, and even with having like a heroic week, which notably we didn't have
in the past couple of tiers, I feel like specifically this week is going to give us so much.
Your upgrade system also works a little bit in favor for extending whenever you're
later on into the patch, not here, but like whenever you're later on in the patch,
being able to upgrade your gear, especially like heroic item level gear, to, it's
this point at 626, but in the past it was, you know, six item levels below the cap of the Myth Tracker gear.
That just puts you so close to the gear cap that it didn't really matter. Now it's 39 levels different, which is a lot higher.
You also get the server's trans buff, so that'll help guilds want to...
That'll also influence your decision as time goes on as well.
But for Racer, we'll first guild it, so I never really held the table.
Yeah, it's a thing that's kind of nice there, and I want to say the only big time that it happened was on Gahoon in the race.
Were you raiding in LB at the time?
No, I was off that tier.
Okay, that was, and I think that they would say it, a massive blunder at the time.
It was just like a decision that they didn't think that they could re-kill Feta Devour,
and they were worried about their re-kill on Mythrax as well,
And then they thought that the Vantus runes were going to be able to like take them over the line
But they nerfed Vantus runes from reset one to reset two from five percent versatility to three percent versatility
And then that left them a little bit short in terms of the damage that they thought that they were gonna have and then there was
Basically never able to kill it
But if they do the re-clear it would have taken them four hours or whatever and they would have the damage and then they would have
You know that the damage would have been much easier more so than a Vantus rune
Yeah, that's one of the difficult things about the race to world first is you know
You have to make mistakes to learn and when you make a mistake in this you don't get to do another race for like five months
You know it takes a long time so they were just like you know the learning steps along the way and
Never extend has been added cams was a racer will first raider
My gosh. Yeah cams was getting after before you were born
True, true. When did you start in Backdown Limit?
I joined in Nighthold Farm.
Oh, so you didn't reach?
Yeah, when a midwinner fell apart.
And then I stopped playing when Sanctum and Domination PTR started,
and I said, I cannot do this anymore.
It's just...
What about Sanctum was it that sent you? Was it the maw?
No, it's more like real life, with the time commitment, you know.
For some reason, I thought you casted with us in Nathrid, and then we did it.
I do remember you casting with us in Saint of the Domination.
Those late, Sylvanas knights.
There was a bit that you did that still resonates hard with me, where you were pretending
that it was your first time smoking the copium.
Oh yeah, I've never had copium before.
Okay, that wasn't pretending.
That was a close one.
I hope we don't have to, I mean, as much as I want
to like relive that moment, I've been chasing it
for like all these years.
Of course.
I hope we don't have to bust out the Hopium and Copium.
I really hope we don't have to bust that out either.
Yeah, I don't think we'll go there.
I think we've already passed the point of the Hopium-Copium
whenever we were watching Nexus Princess attempts.
Oh, possibly.
That was straight gambling.
And we'll go back to Laura.
Yeah, I think Laura.
It won't be gambling tomorrow because we have better gear.
Oh yeah, it will be looted and zooted.
I am kind of surprised that they didn't nerf Nexus Princess, but I'm with it.
You're with it?
Yeah, they're like, I mean there was some weird tuning with the bells, but they're still kind of difficult.
Mythic plus, I'm finding it to be very difficult.
It seems like they've made this game hard.
They nerf some stuff in Mythic Plus. Maybe if we get some downtime in between pulls we can pull that up
I have no idea what the nerf actually want to... I gotta make a YouTube video after this.
Feel like dragging us. I gotta go make a YouTube video. Yeah, yeah. What time are we off?
I don't know when you are off. Cam's in here all night. Yeah, all night.
This is the all night gang. I think you're here for another hour, Talos.
Oh my gosh. I'm in a YouTube video.
It's a lot in my people. I hope our writers are locking in. Also, I saw a question earlier
It's been it's been a hot minute, but I remember now
Somebody asked what the bars on our L frame are for they look a little bit different depending on the boss
But they show you the energy of the bosses usually once that energy is filled up something happens
That's kind of the nature of mythic bosses, so it'll let you know when we're going somewhere
And since this is a two-boss boss we have to have them
Is that the slam and the need for a dispel is it like the pre-damage amp event?
that's
I'm not sure but I assume that's what it is the situation. I think it's the slam on the beetle
I'm not sure on the so actually the the lanky guy is called to cash
I think or something like that called in the hot dog guy in the hamburger guy
No, I called the lanky guy and the beetle, but I watched the guild progress sees on heroic
Last city and the rate leader that I was watching kept calling that guy Takashi and now it's in my head
Like Takashi six nine like oh, no, I was thinking of like
Takeshi's castle because it's similar to that to me. I don't know who that is what you are saying. So we're with that
I've seen Boomi here. Oh, are the newer Raiders. Yeah.
I knew this tier. I came from a game called Brawlhalla. He's now two pro games under his belt.
Yeah, he's like five times Brawlhalla champion or something like that. He actually has a bunch of titles in there.
I was watching his YouTube videos about why he quit Brawlhalla the other day.
Oh, what did he say?
He said he just wanted to go pro in World of Warcraft. That was literally it.
it and he goes, yeah I've just been playing a lot of WoW lately. I think I want to go pro
and WoW. I've recently joined a guild, Liquid, and they have like seasonal events and it's
like and they equated some Brawl Hall of Tournament and it's like you have that and there's
no locals or regional events and it's just like it's like the biggest event all time,
once every 10 months, 7 months or so.
That's an absolute insane sentence that I never thought I would hear a string together here's the thing to is
that
It's one of those situations that very infrequently does
liquid or echo pick up a player and
They immediately start playing for the entirety of progression. Yeah, there are there are very specific circumstances
Which it happens right it happened happen whenever THD joined it happened over fire to join
And Umi is such a special player and he's so good that he joined by the way he tanked
in his previous guilt, so he rewrote to DPS and he's been in on every single pull.
On this warrior.
From everything I hear, he's owning.
He is...
I watched him on Nexus Princess, I was watching his POV a lot on Nexus Princess.
Rarely made mistakes.
Actually just incredibly good player.
Like he is incredible.
Yeah, it's a hard thing to try on new people because you only get to actually see how they
do in progression when you're on progression, and that means you're slotting them in in the
most important part of the game.
And like we've seen days are coming a lot.
And he was in the guild last tier, and maybe he got some early bosses I'm forgetting, but
he wasn't in on any of the end bosses.
And so like he came in on Nexus Princess and Brutistar and did so well.
In addition to that, typically whenever you join a guild like Liquid, they have one player
who mains a specific character, right, or specific class.
They don't really have very many holes in their roster, and so whenever you're like
a new player who's joining, you'll end up being assigned to a couple of different...
Or you'll be asked, like, what can you play, and you'll tell them a couple of different
classes.
And more often than not, you'll basically just be the backup to that person, or in
Dager's case, you'll be like the first rep powder, but rep powder doesn't really
use that often.
Yeah, you'd be like first Rhett third rogue or something. Yeah, yeah, these are his first Rhett second rogue, okay?
Yeah, it's moving up. Yeah, and he's been playing very well
It's been great to see like I think that's another thing liquid's been doing good this time
Is they're trusting a lot of the newer players and like just willing to slot them in and try out different comps rather than
Just be like I would just gonna stick with what we did last time and see if that works, but
Yeah, every the roster just gets stronger and stronger
but yeah it's so hard to recruit in this game so difficult I mean guilds like
echo and liquid are the best guilds best players right yeah it is all of the best
players from all of the best guilds kind of thing and they it's like a and even
liquid and echo both recruit cross region mm-hmm where there's a decent
amount of Europeans yeah yeah that just makes that's true in the analyst team
and also the players. The other day someone in chat asked me if I ever understood what KSP say.
That was very fun. I messed up. It's kind of true. So last race, I was standing here with KSP
and Bart. Now Bart is from the Netherlands. I'm from Germany and KSP is from the UK.
And we were all standing there talking at MaxWalkBuy. And I don't know if it was KSP or
Bart but one of the two said like it's kind of messed up that it out of all of the Europeans the British guys the hardest to understand
And Max was like yeah, actually, you know, that's right. His accent's very thick. Yeah, it's very thick
Yeah, somebody people talk with the
very thick accent yes
And we got Siri here
Contemplating I believe he's also European. I believe I haven't talked to him. He's he's European. Yeah, I don't know where he's from
you're up it. He's from Europe and he's been in the guild for a few tears but
this is his first time being at the Alienware training facility just you
know that's quite the journey. The only time I've crossed the
Seas to Raid was in Eternal Palace we went to London for some God forsaken
reason and that time difference was hell on me and I would not wish that
experience on anybody. It's very hard to focus and sleep and raid all that times
well with the jail. I've cast a lot of your team in Graceful First Events. Yeah, but you didn't have to raid
well after doing that. He did. Or like raid like all day long. Yeah. And like
barely you know like okay we're ending raid you have seven hours to sleep see
you know that kind of thing that was very taxing yeah that's fair to be honest
I think going over to you and rating there so if you're reading daytime I
think coming from EU to NA is actually easier but if you're like reading
nighttime coming from EU to NA is actually harder because EU nighttime is
morning time here and it's just so weird to be up in the morning and
and then your raid is over and then no one is on to like do keys or whatever.
Bro, my raid started at 3 AM.
See, that's not too bad for me because I would be up at night anyway.
You can log on early, you can do your keys before people will be online.
Like that works.
I would cast from like 8 PM to midnight.
Yeah.
Get off the cast, go raid at 3 AM, raid ends at 8 AM, and then they have me casting
the Mordek shift again.
Well, that's a scheduling issue.
That's not a time zone issue.
I relate to that.
That was just pure gaming, honestly.
Pure passion.
Yeah, that was... I love World of Warcraft.
World of Warcraft is sick.
Listen, I am not complaining.
I thought that was some of the coolest stuff ever.
I live for the racer world first.
This is my favorite thing that I do basically the entire year.
Yeah, me as well.
Don't tell anybody, but I would probably do it for free.
That we don't say those words.
I can relate to that also.
This is very fun.
Do not say that production.
You didn't hear that.
Right.
When we were in a paternal palace in London,
it was we'd go.
We would enraid and it would be like 6 or 7
in the morning, London time.
And we would walk to the hotel with a bright sun
in our face.
And then the hotel breakfast would be going on.
We'd have like a little guild meeting while we ate the breakfast,
even though we should have been sleeping.
And then we would try and sleep in the middle of the day to then get up at,
you know, whatever three PM because we were still staying on the NA schedule
because of resets and also there were some players that didn't come over.
We have a question in chess is the Harvard degree thing
about JPC must be a meme, right?
No, he actually is studying mathematics at Harvard.
He's getting a degree in data science.
Yes.
So yeah.
And yeah.
He seems like it sounds like he's gonna be back maybe next year. Yeah, he was definitely tweaking like he misses it
It depends on you can depends on he graduates I guess I
Think he's still the Raider rank and discord
He gave him a woo. I think while they were waiting for the surge to come up
What?
Woo, I think it might have involved expletives
Mm-hmm
Woo
Exactly that. We're gonna be hearing from our Raiders. We're gonna be going to a monster energy
Listen in and see what they have to say whether or not they think this boss might be killable
As soon as you spawn these orbs, you're like you're moving right and you just shoot her across here you spawn them, right?
There's vibing
Then you so can keep moving
As long as you don't stop you make it, right?
Guess trying to look like a farther out path. You know, I mean I sort for love then I'm a bellie
I mean I could just read him where the doors no I tried I'll just be faster
It's one thousand ten. Come on guys
Yeah, yeah, don't don't die in the intermission again, but the face good. Oh, all right
Pick up the nice R1 and it's Panda or what help us move in the intermission there
I'm like let me see if we have like extra seats we can put there or something
They should be at least...
And Kadi has a speed there at least.
He's popping it very early to have it third of...
I think he's correct.
We'll have smoke speed 5 second forward and pick if you want.
Yeah, we're missing speeds for the entire fourth wave.
That's a phone.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
It's just great.
It's crazy.
It's just right.
It's crazy.
He's saying four or five of walks.
Yeah.
I mean, does it come back up a phase later?
Like, do we want it to go?
Yeah.
Well, now we are delaying it.
So for the first, we have insects up initially, which is great.
And then Hardy uses his, five seconds after impact uses his.
Is that correct?
But he needs that, but he could move his a bit up now.
Each group will rotate into it, right?
right so it'll get one you so why would you use them within five seconds of each
other it used to be because they're cdm but like now it works I guess I can move
it up to or three that doesn't seem to make any sense and then and then Scott
is roaring at the same time is hardy he's not putting down his windrush
gots roar isn't assigned because he can't hit both groups so it's like the
up to him. Thanks for your such. Okay, so we just need to have Scott use it on the third
or fourth wave when we have zero speed and people are dying to not making it in time.
No, but at least help his group. I'm moving up.
My son's got one walking. We're good. We even have a time spiral from the
savvy we could maybe use. It is used there. That's for that. There was zero
time spiral used in that intermission. Is that maybe why we were slow?
Nix was coming up when he was dead there. I mean this pattern, I don't know, is like
the worst possible for me because I'd be back left and then...
It's gonna happen every time. It's never different.
Um, the, so Zevi had time spiral up from the very beginning and it never,
when is it is supposed to be used? Basically around the second work.
Else it won't be up next time he's forced to use it.
I might have hit it when it was still on CD. Yeah, so maybe just why.
Alright go you want intermission and P1 deaths are insane. Don't do them
Rotating three two one now to be ring into earth's hole here it rotating now
Come on blue here. Nice bait. Take a new brush. Add your spawning and we're getting a rainstack
and we're getting ready for the rotate with the frontal. Good. We're rotating in three, two, one, now.
Forbs are blowing up in four, three, two, we're done. Good. Don't die in the intermission.
You can use it on three or four, kind of whenever you want.
I think it's fine it is fine hey party's win rush should be in like 10 seconds yeah
it's too early but right now so yeah we just didn't talk any of the words
Yeah, it's uh, yeah what's going on over there guys?
Nobody went for the muddle, so I went and grabbed it and it's just the same
everything though like uh huh. Yeah I don't understand those those spawns were bad
that's the that the first spawn yeah those spawns were horrible you're
supposed to be to the marker and to the left is where you spread the reason
if you want to know, blue team, you saw where you spawned them, which is the right of X.
The reason why is because they have to wait. This is the last one.
But it takes forever to soak, right? So you guys spawning them here instead of here,
the decision to do that causes this to happen. Okay, watch, the red team moves in,
soaks the one orb you left them. And then they're terrified of touching that one.
And now have they have to soak one, two, three, four, five, six, seven orbs in four seconds
while they're already spawning orbs and moving to the other side of the room.
You guys caused them to do that.
Is it the same on the other side?
Because maybe it's a good reminder to put in the add-on.
For everyone just like left of the markers?
I can try to find like a intermission thing, but like...
Where's the... I don't know if I have one, but...
Like whatever the... let's just say this is where the intermission starts.
If this is the blue marker, you spread like that.
And like that.
Like that where he's stacked that pull was right here
We should just move the markers
The markers are relevant in p2 we should not move the markers you guys should just stack on them into the left of them
Well where the markers are now is like where the last one is spawning which is like that
Like this is literally where the last one spawns. Is it pretty much on x and on blue?
No, it's like to the right a little bit.
It's to the right a little bit, yeah, but like if we just move them like one step to the left.
You guys were doing it right a couple pulls ago.
You're just slowly, slowly starting to revert back to what you did for the 100 pulls before that, where it was too far to the right.
You just have to force yourself to do it.
Rotate. This is ringing the ursals.
Really?
There's just a fucking ward sitting there.
That's getting big.
I was on two steps.
This is like ridiculous.
I mean, I asked that hours ago, but like someone to like look at a list of people's
okay, because that's definitely people not so easy.
Yeah, man, if you know the two stags, I mean, that was unfortunate, you said I went for
runs far left the back and so on, and then there was a cone in the middle of it, and
I had no movement speed to get the last guy.
Yeah, this is what happens when the system you have is packed men and not like kind
of assigned roles.
This is going to happen sometimes where different people get different norms that
usually as a background check a second area but then all those people who check like the back
left or back right soaked early because it's random everybody if you don't have the stacks just to
look for yeah i mean if there's all available i mean yeah i i'm not doing the fight you guys are
but it seems like to me right now an orb going off is an egregious mistake by someone especially
on any of them but the very last set in few one every one of the stacks as a recur had one
Riku, you're just like sitting there. That means like, well, that means we spawned extra orbs. Let me check.
No, no. I went for the four back. I didn't want to soak the early because lately I've been soaked the four back.
So we soaked the right amount. We did not spawn extra.
So if everyone had two snacks and Riku had one, that means they soaked every orb. That's the only possible thing you can do.
No, I didn't have a stack. I didn't have a stack.
I'm stuck on the other side of the front and I went for the one far back left if you pause it before
I have no movement at all too
So right now we have five seconds for this and I'll go off and he's moving there, he's moving there, he's moving there
I mean he was going for it
Yeah, I think he's just watching my call
Ricky, you're sitting still like three seconds as soon as the rain drops like we should be moving
Yeah, but it's scary because sometimes they evoke a rescue like everyone's running past him is what I'm saying though
Yeah, that was like the first normally I run but I'm so scared to run into the vocal because I'm like two yards
Left of the vocal who's rescue so on and then I would blow them up because rescue me and yes, the way to the rescue is going
I'm on a ground. Yeah, but I won't go for the far back. It sucks for me anyways for uptime and everything
The only progression we should be doing is in p2. This this this is old shit guys
you can even soak early right like can't red like me oh I don't know if your
debuffs will wear off on that set because you wait to rotate right well if
everybody's talking so a re we're back after that monster energy and listen in
the Raiders have been talking a lot about how they are approaching some of
these mode spawns clearly that mythic mechanic on paper seemed like it was an
insane thing to do and in reality it seems to work out the same way where a
lot of it just comes down to kind of my new placement and even if somebody just
passed a little bit differently in a try that can already like take the entire
rate fertile. Yeah it looks like we lost Lit probably to one of those moats
because I think that may be the only thing that can kill you there. You
probably you know you go running to your side you grab two and you don't
notice you'd already been clipped one maybe one of those doubles back or
up in here and about. Yeah, Rez. So he wouldn't be able to be Rez if he was in the air. Oh, true.
I don't know what clipped in there. No, I have no idea what killed him. Maybe such an animal he pulled
through it. Moving to another raid boss is a very uncommon thing that happens. Yeah, especially
like 10% in. Maybe as a taunt ready to kite the boss for the enrage. I could believe you
If you talk to the boss, but I doubt it.
Uh-huh. Yeah.
Have a stability sometimes.
It does happen to everybody sometimes.
But they're making steady progress on this.
I mean, we started today, what, was it like 80% and now it's at 14?
I thought this boss would maybe get to like 50% today at most.
And it turns out, like, it's kind of the same as we're up,
but just with these moats.
It would be huge if, like, we were able to kill it tonight.
Yeah, it would be enormous, yes.
It would not to be understated, it would be just one of the...
I think that that would be like a pivotal point in the race world first.
I'm pretty sure that Liquid would be able to just like...
I don't know, say, cruise to a win, but like it would be...
It would be a good setup to do just that.
Yeah.
It would feel kind of somewhere in Sarkareth in that regard.
Whenever Ekko Nuffler even went down like pretty late at night.
It was just like that momentum really carried Liquid.
So it would finish line, I think.
And this would be a very similar situation, I think.
Yeah, especially because I...
Probably put the same chance that Ekko kills us tomorrow as Liquid killing it tonight, which is high.
So if Liquid does not, then Ekko probably will.
And you know, because of the reset and the weirdness there, it's not the last boss either.
So it's not the end of the world.
But yeah, they will miss getting knowledge of Ancerak pre-reset, which is very big.
Probably the biggest thing, maybe even more than the loot on Silicon Core, unless you maybe get like double trinket.
Yeah, the knowledge of answer I cried before reset would just be, I mean, that's the best you can ask for.
Now they have 14% that they need to chop off, but when the previous best they had, I want to say 15 or 16 players alive for like the end of the fight.
They were only down like 15 players for the last two and a half minutes and lost in a bunch of other stuff.
We think that if they had all of those people alive, especially during that loss, whenever you have 100% damage in,
On both of the targets. There's a way that you can absolutely be able to chop off that 15%
We see how it's possible with this reset worth of gear, which is
Now we were very questionable about
Nexus princess Kaiveza, but I think that this fight has proven to be a little bit on the more manageable end
Yeah, so just to recap that
14% pull happened a little bit. I want to say like 30 minutes ago 45 minutes ago something like that
an hour
Yeah, it's around that that time. Yes
So not too long ago and like Thomas was saying several players on the floor. They made it that far
It's up optimal. What lost timing as well. Siri just to inform everybody was just grabbing another monster
It's on this way back
There's a rule no monsters past 2 p.m. Is there a rule? Yeah
well
Uh-oh, caught.
Hands up.
Live.
Caught.
Oh, yeah, let's see if he cracks it open.
We'll watch for a second.
He's yawning a little bit there.
He tried to hide it, but we saw it.
I mean, maybe the call was made.
They're going to go a little later.
Never know.
To be fair, they still have a lot in this day.
It is 8.
Spam and caught.
39, yeah.
They're at least going to go until 11.
and with how this boss has been looking, I wouldn't be surprised if they went a little
bit longer still. Obviously it depends a little bit on how tired they are, but I think they
can push themselves a little bit. They had a lot of sleep in the Lost Nights.
Yeah, this is something they can't just replicate tomorrow. Like Kai Vezza, the day they killed
it on, like if they killed it right before bed or killed it first thing in the morning,
it didn't make a difference but this boss because of the reset between their sleep it makes a big
difference on when they kill it. It looked like Siri was eating maybe a treat yeah maybe he did
knock on a monster they have snacks over by the monster fridge also. Yeah he was definitely there
grabbing something. They also have gum but I think that gum is maybe reserved just for Scott.
Yeah I don't know if it's reserved for Scott but it's definitely there because of Scott.
Yeah, maybe impact is also a gum enjoyer. It helps the cognitive
circulation. Doesn't help us try though. Clenches his teeth whenever he doesn't get
a prox. He's mauging or whatever they call it. He's mauging. Mewing? Mewing? Mewing is like
when you like when you try to get like the skin up here yeah it's pushing the
time I don't know what mauging it was a mauging it's like like I when I walk in
here I'm mauging on you mauging is when you me want someone I'm calling BS I
I don't believe you.
I think mogging, you're just like a good posture.
You're upright.
I thought mogging is like, okay.
So it's like the opposite of shrimping?
Yeah, you're just like confident
and you just mog on everybody, you know?
All right, production is telling us.
It's a term that means you're more successful,
beautiful, or what was the last one?
Skilled than others.
That's what mogging is.
So I was correct in my use of the sentence.
Shut up man!
You got that scuba-d-d wrist?
Yeah, I'm rizzed.
That is looking at me like I'm appropriating his generation's language.
Shoot, I don't have a TikTok, I don't know any of this.
I'm millennial AF.
That's actually, that's like...
I'm calling your wife.
Jen... what are they called?
Jen Alpha talk?
Well, you want someone to come and log on you?
Shut up!
I don't know why I'm under attack!
You got roasted!
Shut up, mate!
We asked you either.
Literally nobody asked.
That was cold, Kans.
That was cold!
What the heck?
You know?
Mogrape is not.
I would like to see these players view and log on these bugs.
Well, we ate some of them earlier, and they're actually down.
Yeah, I was not going to eat one of them bugs.
Did anybody have one of the scorpion suckers, or just like the little crunchy guys?
I think only the crunchy guys.
Chef Heidi had one of them.
Me, too.
All right.
Only the suckers.
Oh, can I look at it?
Yeah, a cricket in it.
He's passing me some sort of cricket in a crystal container.
A consolo.
I can't have these.
They have fructose.
Cricket sucker, great, it's like how it's just like...
It's where that cricket comes first and that.
Well they want to make sure you know what's inside.
And that it's intended.
This wasn't some sort of factory accident.
Are we in any pole territory?
I say yes.
I think it can be any pole.
If they have a pole like that 14% pole where everything goes right then,
I think it can be.
I think we need more consistent progression
for me to feel comfortable with us being in any pull territory.
I think that if they can start chaining pulls
into phase three, especially with a lot of people alive,
then I would feel better.
The thing is it seems like they're still trying to like
frog the fight altogether,
where they're wiping still at that P2 mark.
They're still struggling to get all of their spells dealt
with, they're just a little bit inconsistent.
Yeah. Yeah, basically that's what they're running,
that the strat they're using works.
I don't know if they're spending like any time thinking
about how to do things differently.
It's just kind of smoothing out the random deaths
that are happening and lining it up
so that they have everybody alive for the double damage
amp, bloodlust, cleave vest that hits, you know,
around that, what was it, like,
around the nine-minute mark, 830 mark?
Yeah, so the end rate comes in at nine minutes
and then you can live for like another 20, 23.
Okay.
So 2920 is when he starts that AoE.
So, assumedly if you have something for it,
you can probably live like a couple more seconds,
and tanks will be able to live like until 925, I would think.
But yeah, that's roundabout where we'll show up.
Yeah, and there's something else that happens
right before that damage ramp,
where you've got to do the coordination
of having the people web.
They have like eight people web
because they have some backups.
people have the dots on them that need to get dispelled.
And all this kind of like takes some time
in coordination and while that's happening,
people are probably not being very efficient
with their damage.
So they get enough practice at that.
They're gonna know how to do their damage and set up.
Cause sometimes, you know,
you're trying to get the mechanic down,
the lust hits and you go,
oh, I need to like ramp up and get all my,
like get everything going.
My fire master's weapon,
oh my God, it was delayed, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, you don't line it up perfectly.
But they get there a couple of times
if everyone alive and they can practice
kind of that little dance into the huge cooldown.
Yeah.
Like the boss, it's gonna get melted.
Like the first time that happens,
like it'll probably be the kill, actually.
It's pretty typical that Prague happens in chunks
as opposed to just some like gradual progression.
But there are like specific points of the fight
that they have to Prague to make them less deadly.
You know, like they were progging the first phase
for a really long time,
making sure that they had everybody in position.
And then they had to Prague that first intermission.
You know they were moving the range to be in pairs with one another
They were also making sure like they were trying to figure out how the melee needed to move around the boss
That kind of thing was that the next thing for them a prog and then after that they start prog in p2
Where they were making sure to get all the dispels dealt with also trying to figure out the timings of when players were gonna be webbed
How do we keep these players alive who are webbed that those kind of situations are the ones that they?
Just kind of have to practice a couple of times and it's not something that like whenever they get back there
It's not something that's automatic every single time there. They're not always with 100% consistency going to be able to make it through it
So but there's still these bursts of oh my god the stars aligned everything just like kind of worked
And this is our strategy is working everything is is perfect
And that's how we saw them go from what was our previous best even like 35 percent to 15
Yeah, we'll take a look at that
We have our Warcraft logs pulled up here on our little alienware laptop
Just to give you a little overview pull timers coming in but we had this really really good try pull number
129 oh, it's actually break timer. So we have more time
14% and that was to try where several players were dead and I never since we've been kind of yo-yoing up here
So a couple of very kind of early prog polls
It felt like so that break timer that we just hit makes super much sense to me to just kind of reset
Okay, let's get back into it and we'll try to get more of these kind of tries because that's where we left off
Yeah, I bet the dinner was probably around when they started making some good
Progress and it was pizza. So now I think we're in like the food coma
Rebound from the energy of dinner and that's probably where we're seeing the little bit of
like a
I guess regression not really regression
The ups and downs, this happens on every boss.
You can see some of these very early pulls, but you want to get another deep run very soon.
So taking that break now, saying, okay, let's just quickly refresh in our minds,
get a little break, get that blood flow.
Rated to be a little bit EP, get that M, and then we can go back and try to get some blue,
Blue and if not some purple or some orange pulls because we know it's definitely possible to kill the boss with the damage that they have
Yeah, can we go see Kai Vezza really quick? Yeah, of course
Look like this. Yeah, I mean if you cut off
Oh my and insane boss truly that was brutal
Yeah, you can even see on the chart like when it got laid into the night and then where there's
Got back in the morning, you know, it was yeah
kind of like purple purple purple and then a lot of blue yeah they went to bed
and then just orange orange orange orange yeah we went to bed and then they
came back and they were like they killed it do you think there's if the race was
long enough like say Blizzard made raids that lasted a sepulcher length
every time do you think the meta on like sleeping and breaks would change do you
think they maybe say like let's actually just do like 12 hour days and
have like some time off like if they knew the rate is gonna be like 20 plus days long do you think like
it'd be worth it to just not are the raiders opera you you know is better than I think us are the
raiders operating on a sleep deficit the entire time because I know like as casters I by day 10
I'm like exhausted yeah no they're not any I like I don't think they are at least it depends a
little bit on what kind of chronotype they are right some of them really like waking up early
And so they'll be up early before any pulling is going on and then obviously they'll be kind of tired late into the night
But most of them are on a gamer chronotype where they like staying up late
So for them it kind of works out. They do get enough hours potentially
But you know you're thinking about something and I'm sure the raiders get stressed out
They're like wake up in the night to check how the prog is going for the other guild
They want to see what's going on and so on and so forth. So even if they have the hours
I don't think it's the most restorative sleep. It's crazy that she's talking about Ogabook or Hero Spec. No, I said chrono type
Yeah, there's no there's no Augs in the raid mix. That's not what I'm saying
That's not what I was so you guys actually know what a chrono type is. There's scale commander. Do you guys know what a chrono type is?
Yeah, I have 24 of them.
Huh?
20 is 24 of them
X and Y. No. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah.
Yeah.
So a chronotype is kind of where your natural biorethym is.
So some people are natural early birds, other people are like, late night owls.
I know you're a biorethym.
I'm biorethym.
No, I'm solo chrono.
It comes from like early evolution days where we needed someone to be awake and protect
the village at any given time.
So some people are naturally more inclined to be awake in the morning, and others are
more inclined to be awake at night.
That's a chronotype.
You're protecting the village?
I hope you are.
I like that interpretation of it, not sleeping in a missing first period all the time.
No, I'm telling you it's correct.
I was actually protecting the village.
Don't tell anybody, but I would probably do it for free.
Relax.
Oh no.
You've been snap-shotted.
My bad.
I've been snap-shotted.
My bad.
Well, we do have some transmocks to look at here that you guys have been donating for our charity partner.
So let's take a look. Oh my god, that was loud.
That was really loud.
Good morning.
Supyna.
Yeah, what do you think? Supyna.
Hold on.
Yo, turn that sucker around.
I love that it has me humming in that clip.
That was...
Let's hear that arm again.
Go turn that sucker around.
Um... um...
I like this.
This looks like a typical Hunter mug.
Maybe a...
No, it's not once they've got a different shoulders.
A little foul Hunter.
Oh my...
There with a eyeball.
I love the SRS.
It's pretty good.
Shut up.
Alright, I would give this like a...
Six? I think it's pretty good. I love the spear.
Serpenters, you're the spear. Happy.
Yeah, it's very harmonious. I wish the hair color was different.
Yeah, that's what I said. I just wish the hair color was different.
Like a red or a teal, if that's possible.
But who was kind of disagreeing with what was going on there?
But overall, I would give this like an 8.2.
Okay, I'm going high. I might go 10 on this guy.
10?
What?
This is a...
10 is very high.
You love a goblin?
Hmm. They're okay.
But it's more just the whole picture here.
The horde. Very prideful.
This is definitely a version that you...
If you said Laktaro Gar for them, they would yell back for the horde.
Yes.
There's a bumper sticker on the car. No doubt.
Oh my God. They probably do have a bumper sticker on the car.
That's a good one. Are you shaming people that have whore bumper stickers? I have a whore tattoo
What is this song that's a remix the different OSS? Oh, yeah, what's OSRS old-school room skate? Okay?
We've got a pigeon here pitchy the pigeon by taggy
I'm trying to find if they if they left us something, but we've seen this pigeon before I love it
If it may come a pet pigeon I
I wish I had a pet bird.
I have no idea if it's a domestic pigeon.
It looks pigeon-y.
It looks very pretty.
Yeah, it does look pretty.
What's that computer? What do we got in there?
I messed it up and donated $10 the other day.
Here's another $20 and Pidgey, my gamer pigeon.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, I got a maxed iron, ID iron, but don't worry about that.
Adorable bird.
Yeah.
Can't wait to see it evolve.
Thank you, Kagi.
That was a good one, a Pidgeota.
If you want to send this in your pets or your trans box,
you can, exclamation mark, charity, or TL.GG slash RWF-donate.
That's all going to the Santa Monica Animal Shelter.
And if you're interested in adopting a cat or a dog,
we have plenty of pets looking for homes.
TL.GG slash adopt.
I think the website only works in the US, but, A,
Revenue trans box.
The muffin one.
This is some quality village or in music.
Whatever it is.
It's a sea shawnti too.
Yep.
This looks like a, like a bod.
And he has a shawmin.
Very battle bizarre Lord.
They're gonna defend Zoldazar.
Very, uh, the F.A. Bod.
Muffin Messiah.
So.
There's something in me that hates it because I did not like the F.A.
But it does look very good. I'm gonna go with a 9.
They look like Zolders are kinda.
Yeah. It's a hat.
He looks like he can be standing there at the top of that pyramid thing.
Yeah. Uh... 4?
4?
Yeah.
This person's ended $30 and you're saying 4?
Come on, tablets.
I don't know, do you want me to rate it or do you want me to lie?
I want you to rate it nicely.
That's nice.
4 is nice.
Let's just straight up root.
Anyways,
I finished my story. Yeah, I de-ironed because I needed to get...
I needed to get spooned.
I needed to...
Toa a lot.
What are you saying?
It's a- it's a SRS.
I finished my Inferno grind.
Okay, moving on!
Remember that.
We do have another couple of pet birds coming in from Astro Parrot?
No.
Wrong- wrong name? Where are we?
Uh, from Billidan.
Sending in 50 US dollars saying Wanda and Loki.
Sunny and Kiwi. Hello. Hold on.
So this is Astral Parrot. I got pranked.
I got pranked by production. Yeah, so Sunny and Kiwi
by Astral Parrot. Thank you so much for sending that our way.
It's all going to great cost. And I love Burt's.
You know my favorite Burt's? It's a
It's a latin-american bird what's it called a what eagle a chaco eagle chaco eagle
Yeah, it has like a little feather thing on this. It's very cute also
Endangered so hopefully we can help them too. You don't want them as a pet. I do
My favorite bird is the buffalo wild bird
Why is my
We have a Volpera coming in. I know you don't like them, Pellows.
Cams, what do you think?
I think they're kind of cute. They're alright. If our exchanges were free, I would try one out.
To rate this guy here, I like that shield. It's a little wild.
Sent in by Sulf, they said a great cost and a transmog rating after I finally found one I like.
Definitely giving me shaman vibes.
Yes.
I think that's appropriate, I like when that kind of goes together, but the guilt is back in the raid there.
I would go, I don't have it in head right now, but I would think like an 8-ish for the Volpera, I like them a lot.
That's a 7.
I'm thinking, I don't like Volperas.
Yeah, I know.
That's the problem.
Just imagine it's not a Volpera.
I don't know.
What would you give it then?
Probably a 5.
Okay, we'll go with 5.
Volperas, like a 3?
No, no, no.
I don't like it, I think Volpares are hideous, but they do have a nose for trouble.
Is this a reference of some kind?
Their racial is called nose for trouble.
What does it do?
Whenever they get attacked for the first time by a mob, they heal for 0.5% of their HP.
Holy.
This is something completely unhealable.
Do they be healing so hard on these scarabs right now when they come out?
Do you think you're mocking on these scarabs?
Yeah, none of the pair would not be.
A word.
A word.
A word.
Word up.
Liquid up.
So five and a three.
There's no way we're not doing a hand.
Do they have a hand sign?
They do.
Liquid up.
You haven't seen that yet?
Well, the liquid up.
It's like an L.
No.
It's like this.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
They've been doing it after kill.
Shaq has been doing it to max, but I didn't think that it was going to become a thing.
yeah and then there's something important with the thumb i have to ask shack what
yeah it's like you're pointing it out no like this i don't know l but you can't do like l l
you know how to do the liquid up hand sign no no no that's the loser that's the loser
hand sign so it's like this i think shack is this but he just throws it up uh-huh
shikibu is big poppy on the frames and lil stick in the raid the demon hunter for the
the gild, been with him for a while.
He re-randed the big poppy please.
Yeah, he wants to be called big poppy.
Oh, he is.
Not Jack, but he's been with Jack for so long, he's been with the gild.
I can't remember when he joined, but his DNA will never lead the gild, I don't think.
Possibly?
I think he joined in crucible storms maybe?
Yeah, there were a lot of people who joined in crucible storms.
why is that I think I killed a part AK he was not from there but I think we got
an influx of people from yeah that is true and maybe fired up was fired up in
that guilt no it was from vodka but he joined at the same time okay jigs was
from AK, Delinious?
Not Delinious, but Derenius?
Yes, Derenius, yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a mage too, I'm trying to remember.
So first pull after that 5 minute break, we're expecting this one to go
well, right? Gonna be going into that
phase, try and see as far into the fight
as possible, having some trouble in the previous tries
tries after hitting that 14% or there?
Yeah, it's just tough to keep everybody alive to this fight.
And they're still trying to see into the P2 phase a lot.
Making sure that everybody stays alive whenever they are webbed
and making sure that you are able to dodge all these
mechanics, get all of the dispels dealt with as well.
THD running away from that scare of it
and has to get underneath the boss with those dispels.
It's just a bit challenging.
They are going to have another battle res at the 4 minute and 30 second mark
so they're going to be able to get Atlas up here in a little bit
but him being dead for a pretty long time during Phase 2 isn't awesome
so I don't think they'll be able to push for a kill
but they should be able to get good prog here still.
Yeah, this fight, like, how different from Kaivezza is?
Kaivezza was like full power the whole time,
anything could just randomly kill you at any moment
but it was very...
Yeah, and here had no battle res when you're one tanking
And so the mistakes I guess it was less random you couldn't get like a ton of overlaps
You hadn't seen before but this fight's got a lot of like different mechanics going on in different times and different overlaps
And so you could you know have a
Time or it's like oh, I've never had the beetle on me on that suck
When I also had to like go grab some orb that accidentally spawns like far away
So there's more
Opportunity for you to get like all these mechanics at once you've not seen before and it feels like that's what they're kind of working through is
Just smoothing out all the inconsistencies where the Kaibets and inconsistencies were just like oh
You popped a personal but still died to Queen's Bane because we don't even really know why it's not worth the time to go figure it out
This one is more mechanical and that one was more one shoddy
defensive play type of fight
Yeah, this one seems good for like let's review the Vaude and see what went wrong where Kaivesa was kind of like
Most at the time it was like let's just pull it. This one. This one's like a well-balanced meal and this is princess was just like
A false just a steak. It was all steak. Yeah, all steak all steak all the time. Yeah, I like steak
Pure carnivore. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, this is that's a strange comparison. Okay, you get your phases
you got your entree, you got your appetizers, you got your vegetables as well, you got your
mussels sprouts, maybe a bit of a salad here, some salad action.
And it's just a lot of food and you don't want to be full before the dessert of the bloodlust
damaged amp stack cleave.
I fear dessert terrible compares and please go on.
And then you get your dessert which is like the overtime phase whenever the boss is
enraged yet Yip's can still tank it.
Yeah that's your second dessert you're going.
I mean Yip's for sure looked like it was a dessert.
Yeah, he was smiling.
He enjoyed that.
Just like you don't say like that.
Staggered it, however staggered it works, and shuffling, and purifying.
Purifying, yep. I barely know how Brumasta works.
That was a tank. I think I was playing it a little bit.
Last expansion, and I did some Mythic Plus, and I wish for my friends,
and I was like, I think I died more tonight than I ever have on like any other tank,
like the whole expansion. Just getting wrecked.
do they seem I don't understand how they work all right we'll bring back the mock
that we had up just for a short amount of time before we went into that pole the
Volpera shaman oh and you can give it a proper rating I did we already give it
a proper rating I said five but Volpera so three so now you can give it a
proper rating he's setting up a camp right now somewhere I fear
What are up with these I don't know what's going on?
Also, I fully for those who are asking for a game. I fully maxed my iron and then I the iron
but I got Zuckhelm and
Cheesecake and a bunch of other stuff
This is probably what it sounds like when people plot about well in front of people who don't allow it
I'll sell food. I think I'll stick with my seven. It was rushed, but I'll stick to it. Oh
Oh my gosh it. Yeah. See, she ain't just going so fast.
They're very fast, Shonky.
That will pair as like my brain in the song.
That will pair as like me always. Yep.
Yeah, I'm so good at three. That looks about appropriate.
Yep, so good at three.
I'm not gonna down my previous vote, so I'm sticking with it.
They're in the Guild Key Friends.
Oh, it's a thunderous group.
I would like to have keyframes. Yeah, I've been I
Mean it's always bad at the beginning of the season, but this season it's been particularly bad. I feel like
Yeah, I've been getting the climb and plus two
Oh, it's it's actually brutal out here because I can't play with my friends because they're not awake when I'm awake
So I'm trying to get through it, but
That was way too dank. That's all that was rough
Yeah, I've been trying to find time in between all the casting and sleeping to
To play some and yeah, it's rough out there climbing the ladder. I've got like a five done on everything
Trying up that to six. I got carried a little bit in my 10s whenever I was struggling in LNG and then
My friends invited me to a group and it was I was saved and now I got all my 10s done
Yeah, I don't have any friends doing 10s. I'm I think I'm not gonna get 10 done this week
You could have stopped that at friends
You kind of deserve it after vlogging.
I don't think I could actually ever get rid of that one ever.
Very funny.
It comes from proven by existence I think.
I'm not trying to go to war with you. Hold on please. I will lose.
You better be mewing.
Oh, there was one before? Getting pinged? I've been really enjoying the pinging feature.
Oh, ping? I remember when pings were added. People thought that they were useless and
they would never be used.
are mad op in this game and I'm glad that they added them we really still need a question mark
pink oh yes more often than not I just use the default ping is the I'm being toxic what are you
doing kind of thing are you just ping on players yeah on the players so what are you doing but
maybe I should start using on the way more like warning yeah ping warning over and over again
oh yeah like that bad whatever you're doing right now it's bad this is terrible stop stop
Stop what you were going to get out.
I was, uh, pugging heroic earlier today,
and I had actually Bart come in,
laugh at me, because I was losing my mind on Sikrin,
because people did not understand how the dashes work.
And they just went, like,
trying to make a circle around the boss room,
so that clearly none of the decimates would ever be able enough
to, like, clear them.
And I was trying my hardest to ping them where they should go,
Nope. My Puck Group had a mind of its own.
Yep, Puck's is a bit of a free-for-all.
Yeah, I mean, Pucking in World of Warcraft, I find to be very...
Yeah.
Unique challenge. Sometimes you never really know what you're going to get.
Sometimes you're going to get people who are capable of...
Sometimes it's great.
Yeah, sometimes you get people who are role-playing as Earthen IRL.
They're...
Eating rocks.
I'm sturdy and bad. Wait, I'm not gonna say it?
I saw a hero going around, I was like, oh my god, is he about to say it?
Yeah, anyways.
Hugging, yeah. Last night I started a pug normal on my demon hunter house tanking,
and we were cruising through, we wiped once on Silkencourt and the whole group just fell apart.
Yeah, that's how that goes.
They just didn't even want to, I think we missed. We even got to the last phase.
phase. We we webbed the boss twice in phase one at some random deaths you know
but it was fine we had most of the raid alive and then we wiped in the last phase
and the group fell apart it's like what we cruised up to that point and I guess
they just thought oh I guess we're not killing this boss but it was like 20%
like all those hours or the hour we put in whenever to get there then
they're gonna go sign up for another group get declined 50 times and gamble
on it being better? Pathetic. That's the brutal part about hugging in World of Warcraft is that
nobody can actually tell your skill from LFG and so it's kind of a gamble in that regard and that's
why I don't know I don't feel like I would still be playing WoW if I wasn't playing with like friends
I feel like if I was just trying to play it as a solo player I'm not sure if I would enjoy
the experience at all. Yeah it's rough out there. It is definitely rough in the streets of
I only play like like that when I just need stuff done and no one is on
Or like all my friends kind of go from the game playing solo was absolutely terrible
It kind of depends. I feel like so I used to plug a lot when I was still a healer main
Mm-hmm, and that was comparatively easier because you get like a lot easier invites
Okay, I guess that's fair
And so you get to choose a bit more what you want to do, but plugging as a DPS player is just miserable so miserable that after years of
Denying the tanking. I'm thinking about it at least you get
There's so many more DPS than there are healers and tanks and you get declined it 100% of the rate. Yeah, yeah
It's crazy
Yeah, even
Sometimes you'll have like good score good gear early in the season doesn't matter just chain declined like who are you waiting for?
And you're met us you're met us back and yeah, I've seen some crazy stuff especially like on lower keys
It's like we do not need like a god come to finish this plus four or whatever
No, I'm gonna say is inviting that frosty came will make your key easier regardless of
Regardless of whether or not you're I play havoc
I mean, why would I why would I have it even heard what I could invite a frosty came here?
Yeah, you have no lost you have no res
They do more damage than you, they're tankier than you.
They've got a grip, grip can be very nice in some of these dungeons.
Plate armor, better damage profile, more chiseled.
You guys are bullies.
Looking like the giga-chat guy?
Yep.
Average to giga-chat.
Chatting out.
Yeah.
I mean, my dp is ready.
I just don't enjoy playing across that much.
Look at Atlas and look at Big Poppy.
No offense to Big Poppy.
What the...
What are you saying?
Not built like a mess.
Listen, between the two of them, one of them deadlifts 600 pounds and one of them...
One of them has fun on Discord. One of them speaks 11 languages or whatever. Yeah.
One is scholarly.
And one of them is a chat. I don't...
I am not partaking in this conversation anymore. Yeah, that's why you got to climb through the frost, doesn't it?
I mean, it takes all types to make a kill.
You need the big poppies, you need the Atlas, you need Yipz here.
Our tank, yeah, our tank, yes.
That's incredibly consistent.
Well, compared to Boomkin, at least both of them are in the rain, and on every boss basically.
That is true.
They are both good.
Debatable of how they could be in without the puff, but...
I mean, have you seen the damage?
Yeah, it's actually surprising.
It's actually doing really good damage this fights this fight in particular is insane to play on momentum slash inertia
Yeah, is that what he's playing right now? I
Guess you have to yeah, it's the best single target. So we can take a look at that Shuki
POV is like they just started playing a different game when you're a demon hunter
It is not world of Warcraft here. We are this they cannot go fell rushing to the little red guys over there
He's got VR. He VR'd to the point where he actually maintained 100% uptime of meleeing the boss.
Yeah, that's how you play that.
Yeah, I can't remember who brought it up, but it's...
When someone does not stop moving on a demon hunter, that means they're meant to play it.
Like, oh, this is a spec for you. I mean, look at it. It's pretty strafing back and forth.
It's getting ready. He's gonna fell rush in. Maybe?
Nope. Wait for the emo aura.
Are they fell rushing right now?
He's pinging. He said I'm not picking it up. Somebody else has got to do that. He's
taking a warning on it. That's good. Yeah. Oh, he's probably waiting. Oh, yeah. There's
the VR. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's the essence break. I had slung that cast right, cast right.
Oh, yeah. He was just waiting to do the window in the amp. What a pro. It's just the
tech. Now he's sitting out DPS by two DKS. Yeah, but he did climb up there with
Possessence break, it's a little I-beam combo.
That's your point.
Where were the DKs on the previous boss titles, who mind us?
It's actually, I don't even know when I'm having this conversation
on the ironic thing they might have been, but
I love both of these classes. I think DK and Demon Hunter are both great.
I'm just, I'm having more fun on the Demon Hunter this
season, personally.
It's nice when DK can find its way into the raid though,
because they don't have a raid buff and they're usually just brought for grip.
And this time it's a little grip and also they're really good at this cleaving
Yeah, you always want the demon hunter for their magical debuff
Keep going to pick up these red orbs when DK rate buff
Something has been cleared. I
Think they cleared all the orbs out. I think that's what that was for. I'm not positive. Okay
Yeah, this the shield on the boss here when he's in the middle doing this channel
There's no duration on his cast. I mean you're chipping away the enrage. Yeah, I'm guessing but yes
I
Normally when a boss shields and cast something
There's a timer to breaking that shield. So they just
Enable this one. Yeah, you're chipping away at your enrage time
You're also delaying, you know p2 and p3 getting started at some point
And so you're heavily incentivized to go to clear out of it faster
Also, it's not like a small amount of damage that's going on.
It's still like a pretty sizable amount of raid-wide damage.
You are...
It's not that you can sit in there forever.
It is a bit weird that there's no, like, big boom that ends at some point.
Like, you're only able to sit in that phase for 30 seconds or whatever.
But I think it's fine if you make that conscious decision.
Oh, we're going to build resources on this fight.
Or, oh, we're going to sit in here a little bit longer
or try to commit more damage to it to make it a little bit shorter.
I think that's totally fine.
Yeah.
It just surprised me the first time I saw it because normally that comes with a timer of
Something you're trying to beat. This is a pretty good pull. We're gonna be we don't have a battle res right now
We had it res drinaco earlier, but at the 430 mark
We're gonna be getting another battle res that lust you might see in the bottom right has also not been pressed
They normally are gonna be pressing that around like the 8
15 8 30 ish mark is kind of what we're expecting for that lust
I think it's probably gonna be more around 8 15 than 8 30 to make sure that you can get it all in
before that enrage starts and so there's like this also this double damage amp that happens
around the 830-ish mark where both of the bosses have a simultaneous 100% damage increase and
so that's what they're kind of saving this lust for. Then they'll pop all their spy masters web,
they're Matt Queen's bandit, and they're dealing with these debuffs right now. You can see it here
on Nick's frame. They kind of have a list where all of the debuffs are written down and
then they sorted them one to seven I believe it was there. I think it's supposed to be one
one to five. I think the six and seven were.
I think it's if somebody gets dispelled, it can jump to the nearest target, but you need
it to jump to the boss. But if somebody else is closer, I think that will then put them
as like six and seven.
Still very cool to see that kind of being figured out that that is how they want to
deal with the dispels. Make sure all of the healers are seeing the same thing.
Second intermission here.
Now we're going to go into that intermission like you're calling out, Tettles. This
is the seismic upheaval. That's a lot of circles. And they basically have
movement patterns to cover all of the moats since the teams need to soak the opposite orbs can get
quite hectic there. I'm wondering if he went down to get one of the orbs because they were about
to explode and kind of getting covered up by all these circles. Oh, far enough. Oh my god.
He made it out of that. Wow. That was very, very lucky. Great play. It's hard like when
they're looking at these moats trying to figure out how to pick them up the pattern of the
circles come out. Oh Riku goes down two. They're not gonna have a rez for Riku
basically for the rest of this fight. Ooh somebody spiked. They're probably gonna
be dying here in just a couple seconds unless they can get them out. Maybe that
was maybe that was what killed Riku. Maybe that person wasn't actually
spiked. Yeah I couldn't tell but they've made it through. So 19 players are
alive here. On our previous best all 20 players were alive though at this
I mean I think the biggest thing is having as many people alive to practice the pre-double
damage app.
That's going to be the most pivotal part of the fight.
You know, I mean obviously getting the boss low as you can up to that point is important
in learning how to optimize your damage, but setting up for the lust is going to
be huge.
So hopefully they can at least make it far enough in this fight.
They're going to have to live through one of the slams and one of the spells and
And I think the second set of each kind of overlap is here comes that first webbing.
One, two, three, yeah.
Oh, one died right before it charged through.
Yeah, it's so crazy with those rings happening at the same time.
They're trying to find a safe spot.
Yeah, they had to find a safe spot from those rings, which I don't know how, like, random the placing is at that moment.
So not spreading too far from their friend and not dying, it's pretty rough and then they
have to do that again while also doing the spells at the same time.
And then the spells are going to be happening on the hotdog guy, the tall one.
Yep, hotdog guy.
Was it again hotdog?
Hotdog hamburger.
Have you ever pulled a paper hamburger style in hotdog style?
No.
Well, welcome to America.
Thank you.
Hotdog and hamburger.
Thank you.
The spell on hamburger who is going to be in the middle where the charge is going through,
and they have to ideally do it very quickly so that the dispels land on the hot dog when
the hamburger gets webbed.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Close enough together.
You know, it's going to be off a bit because the charge is going right through the middle
where the boss is.
Heidi is in chef's saying, hot dog, burger bar tomorrow.
Ooh.
Dumb.
If we can't beat this boss, we're at least eating him?
It's a bug, so...
Oh yeah, the bug.
Oh, it's not gonna be that bug.
Bug bar.
Burger bug bar.
Bug bar.
Yes, Chef Heidi ate that bug earlier.
She did, she did.
And maybe she's inspired.
She's gonna start sprinkling it into our food.
Oh, you know.
Oh, please no.
But up until that point, a really good fight.
We had one player down.
It's kind of what we're looking for. I'm completely interrupting you. Sorry, what?
I had nothing that good to say. I was going to ask when you were in school.
When you had to fold the paper and when you folded it, it was longer.
Yeah. And then there's the other way you fold it and it's not as long. What did you call that?
Uh, in German?
Uh-huh. Or just...
Maybe the translation?
Yeah. Like, along the length of it or like diagonal.
But for like kids, that's what we did. It was like hot, hot dog or hamburger.
Yeah, ha ha. The hotdog is obviously the long one. Yeah, I mean I understand what you're saying. I just don't think
There's an equivalent or if there's no no, there's none like that. This is incredibly
Our children know what the word like length means like I don't know but the I don't think we have like a kids
Kid appropriate language for folding a paper
We're missing out. Maybe we do. They grow up so fast in Germany. Maybe we do. Maybe chat knows, but I am not a knower, I think.
It's just saying there isn't an equivalent in New Zealand. Oh, there you go.
Maybe that is just, is this like McDonald's propaganda?
It is. Our American pass.
That's right.
But like that's something you're doing. Kindergarten. Yeah, it's very early on. Yeah.
Yeah, maybe there is it is like a while so isn't skiing there's like french fry and pizza
Yeah, I remember that we did that I did skiing as a child and they do french fry and yeah
We do the same thing for each other
Freeds and Pete's
I mean pizza and french fry have the same shape so yeah, you do that
What's the word?
Thomas
That's french fry
Pizza is some sort of...
Pizza.
Pizza.
Pizza.
Pizza!
Pizza.
Yeah.
I think it isn't double Z in Italian, uh, that pizza?
Yeah.
Is that what it should be?
Pizza? I mean, Italians say pizza, but we say pizza.
It's like a short I in German.
Yes, it's in pizza.
And then French fries, it's pommes.
Pommes.
Pommes. That's not a stone.
That rock? That pommes rock?
Home frites.
Is it...
No.
Pommes.
Potato.
Just pommes.
So the French version is Palm Free?
The Palm Free?
Yeah that's French.
We say Palmus.
Yeah I speak a couple languages.
I know how to say French Fry in French.
That's all you know in French?
I'm German now.
Bonjour!
Bonjour, ça va?
Salut!
Bonjour!
That's not French, but close.
Does that make the stallion slower? You look like you would listen to that.
No.
What music do you think I'll listen to?
It does not make the stallion.
I feel like you would...
You mean that one?
Yeah, that's a good one.
I mean, I'm a star.
Yes, you forgot that at the end.
You look like you would know Ohio's for lovers by Hawthorne Heights, yeah?
Yeah, my brother was more into that music.
That's where it comes in.
like comes in well to save us from from whatever is going on here we have more pet
pictures sent in by you guys so here is oh my god here's Wanda and Loki
submitted by Billy a dad they're very cute it's like just a floofer on the
floor oh my gosh I'm gonna get maincoons we're talking about this
yesterday titles oh no it's two cats two cats oh my gosh it's hard to tell where
the first cat ends in the second cat begins it's a one is a void cat the
left one hold on I gotta get closer to the and then the right one is like a
smoke tabby both of them seem to be main coons oh okay this happens now
that's what I was I was struggling to figure out where one cat into the other
Yeah, oh, I think they even have the extra thumbs some of the main coons have it beautiful. Yeah, like big paws
Oh my gosh, did they turn into raccoons and rummage to the trash?
Recruits, you know the raccoon is I know what a raccoon is yeah, okay? Yeah, why are we talking about raccoons? I'm lost
We said they have extra thumb. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they do so instead of five. They have six
Minkun sometimes yeah it's two thumbs um well I think it's an extra tobe now
where exactly comes in that'd be way more useful than spinky yeah oh yeah
tell us it's just sitting here looking at his hands well dude imagine imagine if
I could drop yeah I would try to paint you for a while you sing I also have
six fingers for trash I would try I would change this pinkie for an
extra thumb I'm showing you a picture this is good value there's this video
I gave him cotton candy, tried to wash it and it disappeared. It's so adorable.
Oh look at those missiles coming in.
The Aether Attunement proc on the Arcane Mage.
That is my baby favorite thing about playing Arcane.
He's giving that proc on AoE.
They're going to web the boss.
I feel like the Arcane of Warplocks on AoE are also money.
Yes, they're a little more annoying because they're offset when they're coming.
It's hard to like, optimally do your rotation.
Yeah.
You need the Chuching Wikora whenever you get one.
That's a good idea.
That's always a good idea.
Weird.
So they look like this.
That they have like-
That's a lot of feet.
That's two.
Two feet.
They have a lot of extra beans.
Yeah, that is a lot of beans.
It's called Polidactyl.
If you want to look it up, chat.
It's like cats with extra toe beans.
Minimostin!
Skewer!
Oh, he's actually playing Ice Block for this fight.
Oh, he's playing full, what, what is,
for what reason would he play full block?
I don't, I mean, he just did it for that rain.
I guess this cold is normally seen as a lot better.
Yeah, it's, I don't know if he's doing a web at some point,
but ice cold is great for those webs.
It lasts a long time and you're basically immune
inside of it.
Oh, he's gonna try an ice block,
thick frost right now.
Oh, he's, yeah, they didn't have a web.
That's a white, that was called there.
He's one of the G in business face.
So avoids of an orb, no?
Like a moat?
Oh yeah, probably didn't spawn a moat when he blocked.
But that's like a weird...
But you're still gonna have to soak nine.
Yeah, and then you can only do that twice in a fight.
Then it's like two less moats that need to be soaked.
Would you not rather just have the DR? I don't know.
Yeah, that's a very interesting choice to have made.
I mean, block is used sometimes for, typically it's used for cleansing debuffs, right?
Real block is, anytime that you can cleanse off like a hefty dot, or, you know, take off a bleed off of you with it, something like that,
then it's actually really good as opposed to using it for damage mitigation.
I feel like just intuitively the damage mitigation for my skull would be better.
Mm-hmm.
But I think it's not necessarily a fight where you need to be more stable in your HP.
So if you can make progression easier by spawning less motes, and if both mages do it, I think it can help progression, because then you need to be less tight on the motes that you're spawning.
I don't know.
It seems so weird.
If they decide to do it, I'm inclined to believe that that's good tech.
Listen, I agree.
As I was saying, I'm not a mage scientist.
I feel like there's got to be something there.
I just don't know what it is.
it is. Can we switch back to Drani really quick? Does he bubble that? Or wait, which one was the block?
Where is his bubble? Was it that first rain? Now I'm frantically scanning Drani's UI to find
where his bubble is. Oh, it might be behind the camera. Oh wait, it's down below his health.
Yeah. So maybe he'll bubble. Let's see. They still have ice blocks, so they haven't used it yet.
I wonder if it's a rain timer.
I do genuinely wonder if it's for the end of the fight, where you can just sit and block
and let thoughts tit for a little bit longer or something like that.
Yeah, they didn't block that one either.
Yeah, we did see them block in the end range, no?
If I remember correctly, they did that.
Possibly.
They still have their eyes blocked up, trying to get it to bubble.
So they might just be pressing it here somewhere where they know they'll get it back up.
Yeah, it was one of the rains.
I thought it already happened by now, but I guess not.
Spread for rain, here comes one.
No bubble.
Blocks were used.
So, Johnny is not bubbling.
Maybe it's safe for later.
Probably, maybe the intermission.
Maybe the block is for like the 630 mark, right?
Clear.
What if it's, what if they're just blocking right now, because it's a free block and they can't interact later on?
It's probably just used earlier because they'll get it back.
Maybe it's useful, can you just like block, is it the spell?
Uh, I mean you can, but you can also dwarf as a disfell.
True.
Hm.
That...
I don't think it seems good for that.
Yeah, I guess...
I don't know.
Maybe it's just like the damage from the rain or something.
I don't know.
It's just weird because typically ice cold tends to be a little bit better.
For defensive value it tends to be a little bit better because you're also not losing the damage that you would otherwise be doing while you're not sleeping in the block.
And I think like fired up in Drunaco are opposite colors and so they're both
Yeah, walking what would be each other's orb to get
Which I think the mages they're pretty mobile they could grab each other's orbs, but yeah, man
It must be something that I think they just use it early because it's afraid early and often you kind of make your life a little bit
Yeah, that's the most likely I guess is that later in the fight
There's like a really important thing they need to block and they've got this window so fired up this
He's also blue. You're both blue.
Oh, they're both blue colors.
Because I think Trennaco's paired up with THD.
Exactly, and THD is red.
Who's paired up here?
I don't know. It's Black Knight?
This is THD and Trennaco.
He's kind of out here in the little caster world.
Impact died. They're going to have to B-resim in a sec.
Alright, he does get battle res. Looks good.
It's actually pretty obnoxious to have to battle-res somebody on that fight, too, because if you're getting back, like, you can't get battle-res basically by somebody of the opposite color unless they battle-res you, and then you, like, the entire group moves off of where you would be battle-res, too, because then you'll just, like, blow up somebody else.
So somebody of the same color as you has to be the person to be a res you.
Oh, drinian sang going down, probably a collision happening there.
Yeah, you really need to be so quick with getting out of that middle there.
Yeah.
If you take just a split second too long, or you're going in the wrong direction...
So, the upside of it being flat and sang, is that they can still continue to do the boss.
Prague is unlikely to happen, I suspect that we won't see a new best percentage.
But I do think that you can continue to see, like a lot more of the mechanics, try to get better feel for the fight just as a whole.
And just continue to see more of what's going on on the boss.
Yeah, exactly. They don't need them. It probably actually makes the fight easier that they're
dead because they're going to not be spawning moats. I guess maybe if it's even, because
if they're both like blue or red, then there's going to be less players to smoke, to soak
the opposite color, or so that's bad. I suspect they died to a collision. Okay, here's the
bubble coming up from Janna. We finally got it. Ooh, Andy gets his spell with the
It's fine. Oh, yeah
They have a res they could keep going if they want to but they also lost Nick so I think this might be go next
Yeah, we might be going next tips is that to our is over. I missed what happened and what the deaths were
I was excited about Johnny's bubble probably collisions. I guess if the tank randomly dies
They're not it's not just the boss mailing them. Well, it's kind of as a
So, the tank's ready.
Normally tanks are...
They're kind of the person you hope to worry about the least.
So is Driny slouching or is his camera high?
Both. Both can be true.
I think a lot of the gamers have gamer posture.
Somebody was saying that Trill has a dog in his lap earlier
when really he's just sitting with like his knees all the way up.
So it looks like there's a puppy if you see it from behind you. So then what are you doing? Morgan?
He's Morgan
Okay. Yeah, you're Morgan. You're Morgan. I'm with them. You're you're with him. Well in that case
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Like literally every single person, every group always went to the same way and just broke
their web after that. Our progression would have not changed at all up until this point.
So, the first set of scarabs get owned, the second set are during the second to spell debuffs,
right?
They spawn like halfway through, but we are like already kind of dead here.
The first one's killing us?
I think the first ones are fine, they actually looked okay, so we just need to move away from
them when they spawn a little bit.
A little bit when they spawn, just get them under the, do we have like an A bomb
slim here?
Alice kind of did I do really yeah, I mean Alice did you would just need to move away from their spawn like they spawn
But people stand still next to them, and they just get into melee and I think she didn't move
And then we have lips on the next one
Okay, yeah, just move away from them when they spawn cool. All right, let's go
What broke your brain saying did you like just that no just thinking about I just wasn't paying attention
which web vortex I was when I was thinking about being part of this house so I thought I was the person but there's a sign on it
Let's go fucking type that share
We spawned a couple extra orbs on the left side
We did, yeah
Red is the code, red, red
We got this easy
They're blowing up in 8 seconds
I'm assuming that's web bomb related. Yeah, that's maybe it's two out of ten pulls the
web bombs in P1 kill us just due to various or were not getting them things probably too
late to change them though. I would just say really really really really try to be
consistent there to revan this I did no I need to go to running black dronians
left rally did and live in atlas
fucking yes I'm so nervous signal I'll shit in your lungs team up yeah yep
yo are you on to your job I am yes
literally just put in words is happy to
be here bro thank god 321 thank god
bless us that I just hear you're
happy the cola get the scarabs in no
I'm thankful so I'm right behind on
your life it will not blow up
don't say that what's the biggest
head of you guys have had in the amp
rotating it's 46 mil
it's half an elite, part up is 172 mil
they're playing stills in the daily man
they don't get nerfed, they don't get nerfed, you know what I mean?
I got nerfed eight times and it's still doing that mate
damn it
playing Suncrust too
you know, right here, playing the bad build
blowing up in five, four, three, two, we're good
We're good. One red one, actually. Nice.
Good move. Keep jumping up.
Jump jump!
How are you going to be happy?
Moving right in three, two, one, go.
Hold on.
Hold on, hold on.
You have to defuse the bomb.
You guys have to defuse the bomb over there.
We're moving right and defusing the bomb in three, two, one.
Alright, we'll res the Voker. Thank you, Seng, for stop. Stop. Oh, we're we're stop trying to stop, but
I'm pretty sure it's gonna pop.
I mean we're getting this whole phase, but not actually saving any time on the enrage. So that was
Yeah, just keep going keep going. This is gonna be a curse damage pull. We can still go.
Okay
Nice get together reading something five seconds. Make sure you're in a good spot. Make sure you're in a good spot
What does that do?
Oh, it doesn't.
I think that's what it does.
Yeah, man, that does the interaction
I'm like, ending early.
Yup.
Yeah.
Fuck.
That fucking sucks.
Yeah.
All sorts of different answers.
Focus on just watching my feet, on the bar.
I'll just look at it.
But I probably just won't call the last couple of rotates.
I can call it every time if we, like,
what what helps through on the shield we just need to we need to have it last all
the way through the fourth cast and there is a head so you just call it the same
time pretty much right there's not that much variance in that phase there could
be that time we were pumping way harder than we will yeah you're always having to
stop at some point how did we get a triple on one side just RNG yeah thanks
So I think it's usually 40 million on the shield.
Call it a 40 million.
That's full.
It was the range of my slide got dated.
They baited me once before, so that's
why you grounded the bike.
Don't follow anybody.
I'm making your life easier later.
Under the boss.
Will you sign?
Make sure these ads do not start leaving the boss.
Rotating.
My ad's here.
on the guys
Rotating three I'll make it one thing now go blowing up in three two one now
Pay intermission right as well
We're chilling on damage and it's a big time stop. Yeah, it's affordable range
Good, we're getting these soaps
These are super easy stay on the left side of this
down triangle good go right we're at a
reserve spot stop stop stop and go
don't blow up nice tree color yeah
good your markers yeah remember red side
you're not doing the range groups yeah
that's next page with your Reggie
partner but make sure you're probably
comfortable suit make sure the evokers
melee the melee the spot to run to
getting sucked here.
Okay.
Warp soaps after this.
We're getting adds. It's a group of the adds as well.
Add some of the boss 3, 2, 1.
Exile into the boss 3, 2, 1.
And splat under the boss 3, 2, 1.
Nick, 3, 2, 1.
And goop your waiting.
I'm inhaled.
3, 2, 1.
That's by far the best damage we can do there.
That was faster than you the last time.
right of your marker yeah on the right right and then bait the frontal part of
our flock them came up for now okay why are you moving left already go to your
spot it's porting out go get there go go go blues in actually the middle of
nowhere red figured out okay you can do it yep you just have to go so close
Actually those are kind of nice
Just so long
Okay, check under the boss
3, 2, 1, now
Lip under the boss, 3, 2, 1
Red team need to get over here
Exile under the boss, 3, 2
In the middle, now
Splat under the boss, 3, 2, 1
That goes
Nice, and sang under the boss, 3, 2, 1
Keep these scarabs nice and CC, guys
That somehow worked
Do you just want to do the intermission on X and blue or do you want to try something else?
Yes, yes, yes.
Okay.
Go left.
Yeah, let's go left.
Yeah, let's get with your rest of your group.
I will.
We're sketchy, buddy.
Spread out a little bit.
Spread, spread, spread, spread.
And we're going right.
Please don't get fucking entailed here, man.
You can take your time.
You have ten full seconds to soak that shit.
Now, try to just mirror each other's groups.
don't have to over move unless the other group does.
Clear.
Get you on the cat.
Yeah, just mirror us here.
We're spawning in two, one, now.
We're going to try to beat the next one.
We have eight seconds to soak, four seconds to soak,
the last red one.
Nice, three more blue, two more blue.
Nice, and beat, beat, beat, beat, beat, nice.
The red's going to the wall.
Remember, ranged pairs.
Ranged pairs in this space.
Right, right, right, right.
Or through.
Have you just stood up?
Remember may a member that frontal beat later during the damage and don't forget that
Frontal on run
Good now get in your range there's no backup that here's it's so once we get the thing
But we sort of left that's right. Yeah
The evokers and you were just people to see each other, but it's fine. Good response red. You not break your order red
You not break your orbs
For your website here. So course guys now
We're just open orbs now. That's it
and we're getting ready for a damage amp in 3, 2, 1 blast
bait, bait, bait, bait, nice
yeah bait, yeah bait the funnel, move away
get blue to the wall, get blue to the wall, get ready, red you're gonna gait
3, 2, 1 gait red
good, and blue you're just gonna run towards range stay back
web
okay, red to your right, blue you go forward
but don't soak
broke it all man
good, let's get orbs here, let's get orbs here
There's a blue one on the right, blue one on the boss, blue one on the right.
Being pinged, being pinged.
Place top back, top back.
I don't think right now.
You back now, under the boss.
I'm okay maybe, I'm alive.
Re-cue on the boss in 3, 2, 1.
Mark into the boss in 3, 2, 1.
Grind the end of the boss in 3, 2, 1.
And XI on the boss, 3, 2, go.
Nice.
Take backs now.
Okay, after this the boss is teleporting, we're doing one more bait.
damage amp is next okay red is following him to the wall yep
one of the shamans lost the team he's right next to us yep reds go to reds go
to the wall here there's a front hole right now is all reds
yeah everyone's yeah get in your range pairs range pairs now everybody
in the position for you.
Oh, I don't have a blue middle, blue middle, blue middle,
all the way middle.
I don't see them.
Good, just so, so, West here.
Run right?
No, no, no.
OK, Reds are three to under the boss in 3, 2, 1.
Oh, my god.
We don't have them.
Boomi under the boss in 3, 2, 1.
Helper.
OK, we're doing the rest in the middle.
Everyone get a jam now.
It's fine to sit them.
Make sure they're not on each other.
Yep.
Exile in 3, 2, 1.
Dude, what the?
This is so bad.
I'm sure they'll collide the NGR on the BOSS so they can have that.
Second target, send me.
They're about to enrage now, but we keep the upside alive for a while.
We have 2 time dials on the SAC.
How much does an AXE cost on them?
Res in 3 seconds.
Res after the next BDSM.
Don't take a tank
I am we're not doing anything right where it's time that we're dying in a few seconds
I think I just take the boss of all the externals at the end
And I think I start with my defenses and then we time down because the time dialed out it's insane
So the biggest mistake there obviously was we didn't get to try to talk about our list from the first thing
Yeah, yeah, right
and the quake, the quake felt really rough there, but
that combo is crazy. They're trying to soak and then get to the mid and
yeah, so we don't know. We missed the middle, so Scott should just not
got there put the boss in the middle. We could have had him way closer to the edge
if that would have helped. That would be so fucking good. That quake just
Yeah, yeah, Scott, Scott, you won't be a bustle in the edge.
I want you to keep this. I want you to keep the nubes under under.
just play it though. Dude, can I just keep the boss there or no?
Can I keep the boss until Scott gets gripped in?
That would be ideal for sure. Yeah, we need the boss to stay over there.
Because the blue group is basically getting stuck here and then we're just soaking red orbs right now
and we would have a new barash to hit as well and then we would just be doing this dodge while soaking the orbs
because we're chilling until the thing anyway. We just have all this time to do orbs
and then we would just meet you in the middle after it's over.
is though is the third thing is a melee but that's just be ranged right it would
have been my web but I died I was so close to snapping as well motion the
fucking shit we usually get two blues here if we get three blues like are we
just we should I think we should always get all the blues and before they
work thank you right yeah the only reason it was weird here at all is
because we were all hitting a damage amp boss while telling our melee to run
under the dispelled boss in the middle of the room where they should be stacked so yeah I had the displayer
and I did not want to go anywhere near that thing because
It was spirit of bone up. Yeah, it's also important
This is probably fucked because we're in the middle of a damage amp right now
And you guys have run to be hitting this boss, but you guys cannot be on this side of the room
Ever read during this or and obviously this was cursed because the guy was over here, but yeah
Okay.
And Oakers, can we shoot something or what?
We should go to the south charge, like in the middle of the room.
We do on that one.
I think we have to go.
We have to go to the north of that.
The one before the...
I think that's just the way the quakes push those.
Yes, I was at one.
He tells me I was out of range.
Wait, so where are we?
We're...
Sorry, what are we talking about here?
The first one.
The first one.
Means...
They're in the middle.
Oh.
Build this.
Yeah, you see that.
No, that should never happen, yeah, that's it.
Maybe the quake pushed us.
Right, right.
Maybe the quake looked at that.
Well, the quake should be...
The center of the quake should be here.
Yeah, so what's gonna happen is I'm gonna have the boss there,
I'm gonna get gripped, I'm gonna keep the boss,
and then Scott gets gripped, he's gonna taunt it,
so it's not running out with them.
Does that make sense?
Does that make sense?
If anything, it will be a little bit to the right.
That should be fine, cause we're in the middle anyways.
Was uh, is it you ready? It's not worth looking at. Yeah, there's just like a random blue orbs and like most random spots
Yeah, I mean there was one blue wall, but I don't know what it was
I don't think it was one of them. I don't think it was a spy. I mean I
Went on a fucking mission to get that. Yeah, there's definitely one right at the end. That was another one
It didn't kill anyone because I did die I did die I also died to that I
So too because we got sucked in I soaked two orbs and then an orb blew up that was like right here
We do these two cells
This is kind of a vibe we're chilling. Yeah, just just the bosses burrows should always always be
Like on the wall how many it's so fucking hard for me to do like it's so hard cuz like in the boss
like look at those orbs like how am I supposed to pull in there with those red orbs
and just gonna get fucking killed oh we definitely need red try harder to suck
those balls and then like on one side of the wall maybe it's yeah where did that
blue where did that blue are being spotted it was in pale no no like look at me
I'm right next to right up I'm blocked in I can't get out because I didn't tell
them it's triple circle it's me okay that makes sense yeah I meant it right
the end there was one I think that was after saying that it was I don't know
what it is but it did that one leave the bus we have this this boss is
killable that those two bosses were stuck in the middle they would have been
dead
master we get this awesome a proper third break dude like
I thought it was going to be a while.
Aren't a lot to poke in people.
Is that your brick?
What the fuck?
Take the brick and another brick.
Take both the bricks, but then now it's going to be three.
Your struggles take that shit.
That's right.
Well, I will poke it when we less.
You know what's that? No shit.
How low do you go to supply a brick?
See if...
Okay, rotating here.
I'll draw some.
What if I decide not to just quickly lose use of this?
I just won't be able to build the one I get sucked in this time.
So the orb, blue orb, three, two, one, nice.
The scarab out, you know.
The PQ scarabs that pull were so fucking controlled by the way.
They were like, locked the fuck down.
You got the big one.
Backshot coasting down. Sometimes little more, sometimes it doesn't.
I'm pulling blue right now
Take boss here scum. Yep. Okay, add spawning
web bombs
They're rotating in three two one both the red orbs last one nice get some passion down here
That's what we got. That's how passion proper third breakfast. Oh, she moved probably does usually be on triangle and skull here
try and go on Skiddle and we're going left now, here we go, we're going right when these
fun go.
Actually I'm very far from you, it's fun.
Just won't break the show.
We need slow damage.
We need slow damage in this phase anyway, who cares, yeah.
We're good for now.
Blue, we definitely want to stop.
Okay.
Watch out.
Yeah, one blue blue up, look at your things, we can honk and raise, we're fine.
I already might have a stash here.
Blue, look at your stacks.
Good.
moving right for the wrath last one wait I'm resting here let's don't say yeah it's
it's it's straight and hit boss at boss at boss at boss at boss do not die to an
orb here nice and all your stuff nice everyone's up get your groups
we buff them both yeah there's yeah go to colors here with their baiting blue
baiting a problem and then get in your web war tech spots member range all the
way back there's a little bit here when you get there with your melee
I'm gonna get 50 turn around.
Oh, look, not cloud.
Oh, boom.
Someone killed everybody, right?
Yeah.
A little bit of grips for someone on the other color.
Oh, boom.
Just like that.
Yeah.
They're ready with grips, and they just go all left and all right.
Horizons.
Bridges and all right, yeah.
Oh, moving all the way down.
Like, don't have any of this happening, actually.
That's sketchy.
Like the left-right thing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
back to the Team Liquid Race World first after yet another really good try that we saw during that
listen and I'm here with Kalamazhi joining us. Kams is also still here. We do want to thank all of
our sponsors that are making this event possible so a huge shout out to them. Thank you to Coinbase
as presenting sponsor as well as Secret Lab Monster Energy Alienware, Raider Aero,
WoW Hat, Warcraft Logs and the Dungeon Dojo as well as our charity partner,
the Santa Monica animal shelter. Now, sub 10% guys, we were standing here. We were thinking
maybe this is it. Of course, a little bit of mishap there on those webs. The big beetle and the bit
too far. We wanted them stacked and worked out for that but lost timer, but it is so possible for
them to kill us tonight. Yeah, I was a little skeptical at the 15% mark, like maybe a couple
more pulls in that phase. But I think if they had everybody alive, there were 16 players
I believe everyone's alive and they able to stack them so when they lost they're both stacked together in the damage amp
The boss will fall over way before that in range. So I
Heard a question earlier is any pool territory you guys said and I think it now is a pool territory cam
So you said that yeah, I think it's an old territory. I'm not saying I've been this dyes tonight
I remember a while when I saw that 13% okay, like okay. This is dead
this boss is
If you asked if you gave me the pole counts from Kyveza and this boss in the dark
I would say easily 150 Kyveza and this boss 300 whatever kind of as it was. Yeah, I'm like shot
We would all be so wrong. Yeah, this boss was the hardest boss ever tested on PTR
But it seems like they left in the blue and red so mechanics, but just tune everything to heroic level like mechanically
It's it's hard, but it's just
It's not what I expected
Yeah, it sounded like on testing this boss have the tendril treatment where it was the heroic mechanics
But they just sped up non-stop, but you know, this is basically heroic timing
Maybe even exactly her old timing with some mythic damage on the raid and stuff and then this is orbs and the marks
so I
Think it's still solid boss. It's still hard clearly no 150 poles for an ultimate boss is
Probably kind of the average so it's definitely in that range
I just think the the Brew Twister and Kaiveza
surprise was
like threw off our expectations for the rest of the raid like
Kaiveza may have more pulls than even the Ancerak, especially that they'll get the Ancerak with a three-set of gear
Yeah, overall, I'm happy with this fight. I don't know how the raiders feel about it
They were a little eh on Kaiveza because it was so straining right on them, but this one seems much more like a
a world of Warcraft boss of old.
What does that mean?
I'm trying to think of how to put into words.
I think it was very final fantasy, very geometric, very repeatable, fancy, hanging out.
Where this is like phase one phase two.
Or chaotic.
Yeah, and you can be like in the same positions kind of all the time.
Like they can bait these webs, they can decide who they go on to, you know, their
rotations they probably also kind of similar orbs and things like that where
Kaibessa was just like very fast and dangerous like they don't they die I
feel like on this fight the random deaths are from like big mistakes were
in Kaibessa there were mistakes obviously but it was more like sometimes
people just die doing nothing wrong right and it'd be hard to tell we'll
kill them we're here very clear what goes wrong it's hard for us to see
But you know if the player runs into another player
Yeah, I agree what you're saying. Yeah, I I
I'm curious the final polka. Like I said, I think you can die in any pole, but I
Wonder if that's 5% health nerf that came in earlier alongside the change the boss that made it you have to tank
It was a bit excessive makes talking about it a bit in our breakouts among us here about
For being a penultimate boss
I think if they have them stacked with the damage amp and not four players dead during that lust with with spymasters
Popping with Mag Queens mandates being popped which is potions everything else being blown there
I think the boss will likely die pretty easily which that five percent might have been okay to leave on but I mean
It is what it is that kind of depends on what you want it for this boss, right?
So I think when we saw that 14
14% pole with so many players dead and a little bit suboptimal blood was
we were like okay it's actually doable. So that was a question that we had before
is it mathematically doable? Is it as tight as an exas princess? But it's
actually like doable if they just have one good try. And that is I think a kind
of insane statement to take away after what we thought about Silkencourt. So
having that 5% nerve on the boss's HP kind of brings us into this
territory where the boss is killable. And the question is did you want it
to be killable this ID. So that's kind of what Blizzard did. With those five extra percent,
I don't think it would have died this ID for any of the guilds, whereas now there's a good shot,
like all three of them take it. So we'll see how that goes, whether or not they can still do it
before the reset comes in tomorrow, but they still have a little bit of extra time in their
day-to-day. It's at least one more hour, more likely two, now that they know they're
you're so close, you're probably not going to leave them easy, but as you can see, there's
a lot that can go wrong on it.
Yep, missed the spells on the boss there, didn't get it all in time.
I think with the 5%, I think maybe even doable this reset, if they can have a clean lust,
the way they want it to, with everybody alive and everybody set up to do the damage
during that window, I think they're going to smash the enrage, I think.
They can extend it quite a long time, too.
Yeah, you saw Yip calling those time violations, all those externals.
There is healthy yoyoing, but he also has like, like, purge a lot of stagger he has for a good bit.
You saw Scott once Yip's went down, Scott pounded into the dirt pretty quickly,
but they can prolong that fight for about, it seems, 10-ish seconds,
and that swarm, that empowered swarm comes in, his wife's the whole way out.
So, there's a little bit of leeway there, in particular.
It's like 15.
So, the Enrage comes in at 9.
The Beatles have big and red and scary.
They hit the tank pretty hard, but the tanks did a decent job of surviving when we saw them go deep into that end range.
And then around 15-ish seconds in is where that swarm cast starts, and that's like a big, great AoE, and then players will take off.
So, the longest duration that we can expect on this fight, assuming that we are going to be using some defensives, like blocks, netherwalk, that kind of stuff,
I would think will land us at like 925. I think the boss can die at like 915
Okay, yeah like damage maybe even earlier, but like I would say that's a
Reserved realistic gas of where we're gonna land so we will probably be hitting that end rage
But not the AoE within the end rage
Yeah, I mean, you know this like doing progression Kalamazoo where like sometimes you will lust at the end of a fight
On our guerrilla hard boss and the first times you get there, you know people are dead
Everyone's kind of like uncomfortable. Oh my cooldowns are not by like didn't save it or didn't optimally do it
Right, they've also got like this dance going on with the lust which takes away from the DPS
But sometimes they'll get enough reps in there where they can do it and prepare for the blood lust
And, like, for some reason, Queen of Shara is coming to mind, like, I remember watching,
um, what's it, Echo at the time, or was that method?
Oh, Queen of Shara?
Uh...
A Shara must have been method.
Because Ny'alotha was still method.
Okay, yes.
Yeah.
Method at the time.
Where they lusted, they finally had like a really clean pole.
It was on that kill I woke up in the middle of the night and watched it was very sad.
But for them it was exciting because they got in with their two healers and kind of set
up for the lust and it was just like the boss melted.
Like it's ridiculous when you're fully set up what can happen on that like go for a
kill lust.
And I think that can happen on this boss where you just go oh where did that damage
come from?
And they just annihilate the boss but it's so hard to practice for that because
they have to set up, you know, during all that complicated dance of doing the webs and
also the spells under the boss, while also stopping the beetle on top of the tall guy
in the middle at the same time during all the cooldowns.
We're going to be seeing how they can do with everything that's going on there during
this boss fight.
definitely a lot that is happening here during this boss. Yeah it brings the
question as well like so it currently is about 10 p.m. West Coast time where we
are located and so if you're in this spot near liquid you know this boss is
it's killable tight right unless this boss is killed tonight and you would
expect Echo and possibly in a method to kill this boss tomorrow because their
reset comes on Wednesday now they have a whole day of prod tomorrow
comparatively to us having reset tomorrow now Queen Antioch is not dying
You know tomorrow obviously if there's a bit of like give and take there will be clear a day earlier
So there's more gear, but also if echo method can kill this boss
A bit more loot coming into the raid they can see and Shrek for reset to get timers strats
Comp all that kind of stuff also get this loot on their loot table in their great vaults
I think come in a bit more knowledge than liquid liquid accordingly
But also, you know, if we can see them someone's gonna spring publicly and even when we get back to this fight
It probably should die pretty fast
But yeah, so the question is this is this the this is there's always a night
It feels like during the race one or two that make or break a guild's race and this I'm not saying it's gonna break anything
But if you can solidify a kill tonight as liquid, I think this puts you firmly a decent bit ahead
Yeah, but the same time that you should never underestimate under estimate echo or in methods and putting up a great performance
Just here as well because I mean they woke up this morning and blasted nexus princess in an hour or so, right?
They wake up with the vengeance in their heart to destroy the boss.
That's a good way to describe it.
I think vengeance is definitely a feeling that they need if they want to take down any of these bosses.
But, uh, Excess Princess is not on the menu, at least not until tomorrow.
I keep seeing chat kind of discuss whether or not the Raiders will extend this ID.
I can assure you that is not happening.
If it happens, I'll eat a handful of the bucks we had earlier or something like that.
That's how secure I am in my analysis on this particular topic.
Yeah, they're not extending.
No, there's no chance.
No chance.
No chance.
Do you want to get a real answer on how they feel about that?
We should ask Max to sincerely ask him an interview.
So do you think you'll extend the break?
He's going to drop some exploitatives and tell you that there's no way in how this is what they're doing.
Your soul will be peaked.
And a second catalyst charge, which means if you get a pair of shoulders or a helmet's off-piece,
you want to catalyze, you can tier and you can make it next week for a bit of an eye-level game.
So, I eventually guess eye level across the range, probably 622-ish.
I would, I would guess probably 625, at least if not higher, when they're back at this boss tomorrow.
Warwick, Queen Ancer Act tomorrow, we'll see. Hopefully both, but...
Yeah.
I'll be surprised if we don't see Queen Ancer Act tomorrow in one fashion.
Oh, it's somewhere.
Whether yeah, whether it's a no there's no way and let's say kill
And let's say echo kills this boss within a couple hours of the rain starting which I they've got a lot to go
So I don't think it's gonna happen pretty good try so far. I'm not gonna stream answer. Yeah
I know I don't even if they kill this boss like one shot at tomorrow. They're not gonna stream
That's way too much for the band. Yeah to give up. Yeah. Well
We'll say how this one goes to have this situation here which did lead to a couple of deaths before
Folks are being covered.
Looking good. One player go down.
Yeah, we actually have two resident rebels, so Jeraco can be brought back to life pretty quickly here.
This is going to be the teleport of the boss in the middle of the room.
This is going to be the, I believe the Penta Dispel coming up.
Yep, you see them being dispelled right here in that big boom cast.
There we go. There's an early stun.
This is going to be that damage amp.
And after this, what you're going to see, excuse me,
is the beetle boss entering his burrow phase, which is going to be that shield the ratings to break
when those burrow circles are coming up,
trying to pale the raid.
Their push threshold's been around 45%
heading into that.
You can see right now they're at sub 46
already before that burrow show comes up.
So very strong push.
Actually sub 45, sub about,
we'll call that 44.
44 and a half today, so very good push here.
Finding a bit more damage every single pull.
They have a better rise available
and honestly getting through here,
this is when the choke point begins,
but they look to be ahead of damage
in the last bowl when they had that set line for us.
One of these hearts need to grab them still, but they have it covered as they are moving
through the spiking storm on the side of her beetle friend.
After that, we'll need to catch him again.
That is where they want to send bloodlust.
They want to stack them both up, an issue that occurred earlier on.
You really need those clothespins to be rather far into the room and very close
to where he starts his charge in order to mash them both up in the middle there and then of course
we're going to get the grips we're going to get the d-spells it's a lot that's going to be going
on here in a couple of seconds that the raiders need to deal with but thus far a pretty great try
yep you could even see there they were like pinging a little shadowy image i didn't know this
happened i guess that's where the the tall boss teleports to they're like spam pinging
I'll drag in the boss. Yeah, look at the big fleet here on the edge of the room. So what we're gonna see next is this grip the whole
Raid well, it's gonna be splitting groups here one group to be pulled in which will form these webs between characters coming right now
You want to hold we get these webs and not break them to do break there
But should be something held in the raid and stop the bosses charge was coming at the wall
In the middle of the orbs get those orbs get them
One back at the wall. Yeah, the charges come in. Yep. The three lines close bends are up
We get the actual stop there, perfect.
You're in that spot?
Yeah, it looks to be good.
The boss teleported kind of close.
Outside of the range of cleave though.
Yep, so this is one more damage amp on the beetle boss here.
We're going to have the next over, I guess,
mechanical checkpoint being the slender boss, basically.
Pour into the middle of the room here.
We're going to get one more pentad dispel coming up.
And one more damage amp when that happens,
we're going to get to that choke point of the pentad
dispel and charge coming at the same time.
And that's when the less will be committed
and that big drone come up.
This boss is already nearly sub 30% with this burrow phase happening before the actual
pentatus bell.
Oh, we do lose Alice and Goop here, unfortunately.
We can get...
We have about a res.
We have one res.
We can get...
You probably get...
Hang alive.
Yeah, we lose Boomi here as well.
Did they go down?
So the question with this is always did they go down soaking an orb that would put
them above that three orb line?
Because then you cannot pick them up.
They'll just insta-die again, but we'll still see them send that lotlust very soon here to try and get this boss as low as possible.
No better us's are being committed here, at least unavailable to try and get the group back together.
Now that is going to be a significant amount of damage lost, so most likely not going to be in the territory of kill range.
But if they just have another deep try where the tech side of things goes right that's just going to be great for their morale
Yeah, get to go down there. He might have taken a third or if they're not getting arrested him initially Scott can tank both
These bosses for a little while, but it won't last forever
This is one to be that triple clothesline with the actual of the spell coming up also here
There are three lines bosses rooted next boss port in the room here
This is one to be these five the spells coming up. We were losing players these in bit here
The boss was solo heading to this to man 21%
Yeah, I mean if you're gonna have a wife you want it to be here
They need to practice that little end spot
Yeah
Dangerous as parts where they're like getting sucked in and then they have to soak up the orbs before they run out of the circle
There's so much going on there and then like we'll also not breaking their webs and then dying call of damage. Yeah
Yeah, the whole difficulty of this fight seems it's so concentrated by that
It's literally like every mechanic in the fight all at once and it's you know, yeah, and it's in
I mean, I think they know they're there though. That was a 20 with it. They died at 18 35 18 percent. Yeah, I mean
It was 22% when they both went to the middle and they were stunned and you had like four players dead for a while
Lust being committed there that boss would get Omega nukes at that point
It might even just die in that lust at that point with that double stack and damage at being taken
So if everyone's alive, yeah, maybe yeah, it's possible.
Spine Mashers webs.
They had the same issue they had before though.
They really on that last charge where they sent the bloodlust then they want that beetle to be in the middle.
So that very last close-knit needs to be before the circle of the center in order to stop him in the middle where then that lanky guy is going to port in.
And then you'll have them both pixel perfect sect and you'll get the most out of your cleat value.
value so that is definitely something they need to get right when they want to have that kind of
Magical dream pull where they can just down it in something like the bloodless timer
I mean look at the meters look at fired up some damage when you can get like all the way through and yeah when they're cleaved
Yep, your cleavage arcane is pretty good. Yeah, it's not terrible, but you know, I don't think it's frosty K
But even with that
Arcane damage look I mean this also went down early on that fight
He's still in a commanding the high position on that damage meter, right?
So you can see as long as everybody lives this this fight
I mean this fight literally could die any hole
It just needs we need everybody to stay alive and you get to that burn the boss is going to melt plus
You know that tanks can stay alive for 15 seconds past that softened rage. So I don't think damage is an issue here
You probably could have left 5% in the boss and probably be okay to kill as well
Yeah, and that are fairly but hey, it is what it is. We're here
solidifying this hill tonight is
very important. It's not race-assiding, but if you can't secure this hill tonight, it puts you in a substantial, a very solid position, heading into reset.
You've got info and answer rec, you've got a whole reset coming in, and you basically know what you need to know. Plus, if you can get in, I mean, it will take Echo a method likely a couple of hours.
I mean, more if you possibly want a couple to get this boss down, because there's a lot of nasty overlaps you need to see, soaks and grips and things to get used to it before you kill this boss.
Yeah I think this needs to die tonight for liquid to keep the lead. That's my
take on it. Well yeah I think we wake up and the boss is probably dead somewhere if
they don't kill it tonight. Which is not a death sentence for the race because we
have a reset coming in. Echo and Method will both have to be clear as well. But
yes having this boss dead does give you a very... I don't think commanding or
a firm lead but it gives you an advantage for sure that you want to
have heading into the last few days as race. It gives you a comfortable
position whereas if they don't kill it tonight you're kind of they're gonna put
the ball in Echo's court or even in methods methods actually been really
really insane this year I feel like and they keep catching up so I don't know I
wouldn't be surprised that if it comes to tomorrow both of them could actually
kill this boss now that the 5% boss HP has been nerfed down so Liquid would
really set themselves up for success if they were able to do the same thing
tonight before that reset comes in. Currently they have a lead of roughly
three hours sheer progress time on this boss. It's gonna go like another hour
at least, maybe a little bit longer depending on what they decide to do
tonight, but that is something that I think both echo and method can catch
up during the day tomorrow. It's not like 12 hours that they have ahead on
this boss. Right, and they were also the first skill to reach this boss and
Typically whoever does has a higher pull count on losses. Usually just you're designing the strat
So yeah, yeah, we will see where that goes
Yeah max was super against going late on kind of as a
one because the
Boss was so draining on your attention that
People just got fried near the end of the night. I think they called it in the matrix
Like play they were jacking the matrix. Yeah, right just plugged in concentrated where this fights not the same way
And then the stakes for staying late and killing it are like enormous where with Kaiveza it was kind of like
We want to kill it before echo for bragging rights, you know and for mental reasons
But like it wouldn't make or break the race where this could have like a significant impact on how Queen answer
right
Yeah, I think that's the big part so a lot of people are not
understanding why we make it a big deal whether or not this boss dies tonight or
tomorrow the advantage you can gain from it is if you kill this boss tonight you
get a first look at Queen Ansarac and that is notably a boss that has not
been tested on the PTR like most mythic end bosses nowadays so all we know from
this boss is the dungeon journal and the heroic version which often can gap
quite a lot to however this boss looks like on mythic we don't have
Timers for it so there is a lot to be gained if you can see this boss and
Then go into your reset you'll have a better idea of what classes might be good
You have more time to actually prepare the strats during the splits and the reclers tomorrow
So that is a massive massive advantage for any guild that is able to down the silicon cord
Before they go into reset that is why we're saying that this should be something like what was trying to do
I assume they know just as much so I am in the corner of unless the Raiders feel terribly tired
They will go a bit longer tonight at least compared to what we've been seeing in the last two days
But it really depends right if they feel like they're spend if they feel like they're just playing words for wasting time
Then we might see them call it but that's far. We keep getting really good tries
So I don't think we're at that limit yet. I wouldn't be surprised to see it go a bit later tonight
I want once again if they do hit that point where there's regressing or you know, not having these free polls
It is worth calling but maintenance is going until 10 a.m. Pacific tomorrow
I we believe it could come up early could proc a Titan forage on that and get some early access to the
servers ahead of time, but we're likely looking at a 10 a.m.
Like server up launch time whatever so you might put a squeeze on an extra half hour hour of you know
Attempts the boss tonight. Yeah, it's a certain point where if you are at that, you know
Line of regression or line of like maybe this is starting to look like it's not gonna happen tonight
You probably should call it early and just you know
Packeting it's not the end the world. You don't kill us boss tonight
It doesn't put you out of the race
But you have to know that echo method are bringing it and you know is that but also one more thing
Killing this boss. There's been a lot of comp swaps this tier comps in a very very different
I had some DKs out on Kaivesa and stuff like that.
Gilling this boss will get a lot of players, there's 6th boss kill slot in the vault for Mythic.
For that, I might see you get cheats at the first boss, DKs at the last boss, right?
Plus it also gets this boss's loot on the blue table in the vault, which has Spymaster.
It has a handful of items that are really relevant.
So for a lot of reasons, getting this boss down tonight, if we can, is very, very important.
Yeah, I mean it also sets them up for a world where they kill it and Echo does not, which
can happen, and the lead that they would have, because they're going to kill, it's late enough,
they kill this, they're not showing AntsRec, so Echo will not see if Echo does not kill
us tomorrow, then they wouldn't see AntsRec, like until Liquid is re-cleared and has like,
you know, they'll see what they're gearing and stuff, they can maybe try and glean
some info that way. So that is just such an enormous advantage. So like that can happen
but I do think Echo will most likely kill it tomorrow. I put it like you know it's greater
than 50% chance that they do.
Someone in chat said this is the kill so lock in chat and might be it we're in any kill
territory or any pull kill territory. It's all about getting a try where we don't lose
players. During those intermissions, during those pull-ins, during those disc belts, there's a lot that can go wrong on this fight.
Potentially, we're trying to get that magic pull just right.
There's a little bit more left in that day for Team Liquid, and they definitely have it in them to take this one down.
I'm gonna be honest, this is, I don't think this is the kill.
What? What do you mean?
Prove them wrong guys. Is it because impact is not popping off right now? I'll explain later. I'll explain later.
I don't think this is the kill. Okay. Okay, I don't think so. So you're a Daughty Doubter.
If you want to call it that's sure.
I think they're going to wipe this pole.
How are you feeling about Affliction? It's looking pretty strong.
I think it's the right call on this fight.
I think we've seen, there's been a lot of Deathstroke this year,
but I think half is also very good and probably better on some fights
even though we've seen a lot of Deathstroke.
But it's got this fight hits counter-gleave and I'm surprised seeing two Warlocks.
I think it's a good luck fight, but once again that melee meat render has been very strong this year
and just in general there's a lot of movement for range so
I'm fine with it. I'm happy to see it. We have two in our guild. That's great, but
It's wrong in this fight and THG and splatter both awesome warlocks. So
They're pumping it's good to see I bet there's two just to pair with the mages
It's a little harder to pair an evoker with a mage right lead little system because the evokers have a range issue
Yeah, but so I think they're kind of evening out the range group
I'm kind of surprised the evokers are not odd. This seems like it'd be a good odd fight because you could
like augment the arcane mage and the sub-rogue during the damage amps
but I mean I've seen the devastation I mean right now
is that it goops up there and I
think unless it's been fixed there's like a certain talent that they have that doesn't show up in details
is like holding on logs so they're like doing even more damage than we can see
yeah you it's that's bombardment okay
the bombardment oh yes the bombardment talent it's your talent I believe
I believe with your commander. I'm not a lizard expert. Yeah, me neither
Hey, did you have a lizard Kalamazie?
Kalamazie? A bald guy? Yeah
He is bald
He is indeed. Cam's those kalazars. I remember. Cam stole my lizard. Yeah, he stole my lizard
Not a melly's back, so I don't have one
Without rewriting a history half
Yes, kalazars a national treasure. I haven't posted my monthly kalazar picture on Twitter
fight change that's a few days but you need to work on that he's not
intermission here not through it just yet yeah I think it's thinking a bit
longer than usual but you do indeed see that they do a little bit of a damage
stop so I assume it's for timers coolies to come back up we do lose Atlas here at
the very end but we do have a better rest so that will probably come back
up Scott also going down we think it's got here we can get at least in about
a minute and a half from now unless you can take this boss for a minute and
I doubt he can't- oh well.
So, okay.
Okay, Kalamazie.
I think we're first psychology there.
Because typically people say,
oh, the best is cursed to fight.
Well, I didn't curse anything.
And then that person in chat cursed it.
Go get him this time, chat.
I don't want to hear it.
I didn't curse anything.
You cursed it.
You said it's not the kill.
You spoke it into existence, clearly.
I tried.
It's alright.
Chat, you couldn't blame Kalamazie.
I do what I can.
They'll be able to tank it, even though he's a warlock.
Actually, because he's a warlock, you guys get away with so much.
Well, there's next pull to kill anyways, so, it's all right.
Okay, okay.
Now you're cursing in the other direction, trying to get one out for you.
Yeah, I mean, 80% of the game is half mental.
Good tech, good tech.
So, I got this third dimensional thinking.
Yep.
It's like Kalamari fault.
Yeah, I guess another reason not to go too late tonight.
They're trading it off because they'll have to go back to the matrix tomorrow, you know, Kaveza is still going to be hard
Didn't get any nerfs. It's very interesting gear. Yeah, but the boss will still though the gamers will have to game
So they can't like stay up all night and have a kind of breezy re-clear
They're gonna have to do that boss one way or another
I'm really surprised they didn't change Kaveza
Like like very surprised leaving that one tanks right a GN. I think it's kind of cool. I
I think it is I guess I'm the cover is a great boss. Oh, well, I mean the problem is like for the problem
The thing is that I give it one more reset like a week for our so from now you can just take two things if I easy
You don't need one time right and give it so constraints boss
It's gonna fall over like a heroic pinata in a month and a half
But it just seems odd they wouldn't change that it's only a change in a core functionality the fight besides guilds seem to like
Not it's not an X play but like burn battle res and APT is to pressure tank to meet the DPS
It seems
I mean, they will get a lot of gear on reset
So I think there's a world where you don't need to one tank it anymore now that you then have the gear
I still think it's a questionable precedent, but that is just me
And then there are fights like Unat where you had to use Augs
You know, you had to use Onk Totems and things like that to like go sack people
So it's not unprecedented thing
Listen, I'm not really against it. It's just more of a I feel like it's not the pleasure had intended for that fight
And they would like it remaining in that form if they want that way sure go for on care
Yeah, I mean I mean something I do like about the race is that there's
There can be like a collision and what the devs wanted and what the players like get away with or find little secrets like that
I kind of like
when you can
Think outside the box and do something different and not everything is like this
clear perfect like do it as intended kind of thing where you can because if it
was then you just go like what was that thinking about we should do this and you
might have an easier time with some of it but knowing that there's a flexibility
to get away with certain things and you find like the holes in the design I
think it's cool. So there is some confusion around a wowhead article and
And the wowhead nerfs were talking about the boss you're watching currently.
That's Silkencourt.
Both builds, at least I don't know if Method tried it,
but Echo and Liquid both tried to one tank it earlier on,
because there was an issue where that tank debuff was not applying
and then it wasn't persisting through death,
and so you could do the same thing, you could do a Nexus Princess,
and therefore bring one more DPS in order to make that DPS match point.
But that was fixed, so they didn't want Silkencourt
to be one tanked also, they did not change the Nexus princess. Nexus princess was not
touched at all, there's no hot fixes for next ID, some other bosses have been affected,
but there is nothing on Nexus princess which is not to say that there won't be anything once
that reset goes live for NA tomorrow, but it becomes more and more unlikely now that other
bosses have been targeted in the blue post. So if there's something for Nexus princess,
it's probably harder to implement or I don't know but as of right now there's
no changes on that loss. So with the one tanking on Silkencourt did the tank die?
No. Okay. It was just like they tried to buff the actual debuff a couple times
like make it more impactful and they just like they're still just like
negatable right so they went in buff I believe the actual initial damage of
the effect by 150% and it just crushes now so I guess it was more of a
we have to do this to meet the DPS check with APTs and battle res and warriors taunting this fight
which is more opportunity of like why not get extra DPS in here because one tank it's super easy
the boss will die pretty fast or faster but the change you came in doesn't deep require
three tanks there was that five percent health nerf to compensate but at the same time might
have even been needed in the first place but I'm not going to complain at this point.
Okay if I was to guess why they fixed the one tanking on this fight at Akiveza is that
on Kaivesi you were making the trade off of do we have another DPS in here and
waste all our reses or do we keep our reses and have a tank like right you're
making a decision and it's not actually like that clear which is the better
choice we're on this if you just want to get not die I mean obviously just
one take it yeah right so I mean two different scenarios but honestly also
guilds were really in the prog in this fight compared to like the one
tank strat and KVS are being found sort of late into progression where it's like oh we
can change it now but like that'll be a discussion for the post raid max interview that I'm very
interested in hearing from a lot of bosses honestly but we'll see where that goes so yeah
excited to hear that good to see insights into these losses after it's over yeah so many questions
Yeah, I mean the one here they're they're
Responses tuning this raid about where things well we did ask max about
Nexus princess. I can't repeat what he said
I can't buddy on board for reasons, but
Yeah, they did not like that boss. They did not like having to one tank it
Yeah, I think they didn't like just how punishing and fragile everybody was
Yeah, some abilities were a little over-chambered. I think at a certain point when you've seen the fight enough, it's more like, okay, we finish this fight, the fight is just not really killable in the intended form, and they want to move on, right?
Needing a perfect pull, one every 40 to kill a boss, it just doesn't feel very good. So I get why their opinions may have shifted towards that, but meanwhile, shifting back to the game here, we have a 45% pull with two battle resistives.
I want to say I did indeed call this to kill not going to jinx here, but we are entering that furrow phase
45.78
I
Marie come on to your residence here watch over my shoulder a moment ago. This could be it right. This is bringing that the
Positive vibes so 45.78 percent push here is pretty solid
I believe I believe the last push was 45 6 right around there give or take so
So what we're going to see here coming out of this burrow is when the boss, the large
tall one, the hot dog, Skeen Slender, begins to pull you in.
And the first pull-in will need to be used to stop the big Beatles charge to the wall,
maintaining three webs.
You'll get a pull-in again, you'll get pentatispells, and then after that happens, you'll get
basically a double-burden phase.
When they're both occurring simultaneously, that's when we'll have to be committed.
And if we can stay alive long enough, maybe we'll get a kill in our hands here.
I don't see whether or not that is in the cards or sure at the very top of I'm fired up scream as we're
Hopping away you can see a bar that kind of tells you where they need to be but
Right now. They're just a tiny smidge behind that doesn't take into account the damage burn phase as well as the blood loss
That's available. So I think right now. They're looking to be good on a damage
It's just the execution of those abilities as big poppy and lip both go down exile following as we do have a charge
Coming in can they get it fired up does go down as well ice blocks, and I think you've done it
I
Think you've successfully cursed this try can you block off the debuff of two orbs cams are you able to or no?
I don't know, but he ice blocked
I think because he was soaking in the charts and blocked and then he died
I don't know from what I think he soaked a third one
So if an orb explodes it gets everybody with the same color another stack
So he had two and got three and exploded cuz three is death
There's one in front of him. I don't believe you can block the stacks off
I don't think you can then soak the third one there
So he's probably calling someone to soak it but with X on everybody being down. It was just too hard to do
But I think damage wise they're there. It's just literally getting to that point and
everyone living
It's so brutal that it's like the red people drop their orbs over in that corner
Then the blue people get sucked in and they have to run out
But also like that the orbs are all squished over there. Yeah. Yeah
Well, uh, we are gonna say goodbye to you. So you at least try to
I jinx them twice. Successfully jinx one in our favor. I appreciate that Kalamazee personally speaking
We have draught nos here and he's just gonna take over from you. So
Thank you, Kalamazzy. Have a great rest of your day.
He's been sitting there for a while too. How are you doing, Gretel?
Pretty good. Yeah, Kalamazzy spoiled my... I was going to have a grand entrance and he just...
in the middle of that here that he mentioned I was behind him. Unbelievable.
So I think he just felt your presence.
He did, yeah.
Because I don't think he saw you, but... well, what do we know?
You're now here with us for this next shift. Have you had a chance to watch?
Yeah, yeah, I've been watching a little bit, you know, second monitor while I was, I was gaming myself, but...
How did that go? How'd your rate go?
Eh, okay, I'm not as good as it's been going for liquid, I'll say, here tonight.
This has been a really incredible set of progression pulls over the last few hours that we've been seeing.
Very important whether or not they can kill it tonight before the weekly reset or not as well.
So I wonder how late into the night we'd be willing to go to try and make this happen.
Yeah, that's kind of been the conversation of the last couple of hours was like, oh, this is actually
Time that they're gonna want to think about going late because they get so much out of killing this boss
And then they lose so much. Yeah echo ends up killing it
Yeah, it's almost catastrophic as well
And they set up some of their boxes from the start to think about this as well
Like THC was sat on ol' gracks because they assumed they'd kill seven so he'd get another slot
This would actually be huge here. Yeah, and they get the spy masters web
So hopefully they get to spy master web to drop and then everybody gets one from the box
They get some nice liquid luck.
That would be really good.
We would be looking out to get that upgraded gear in there,
especially like a mythic Spire Masters.
That's a lot of damage you didn't have available.
We're going to be seeing whether or not that is the case first.
Of course, they do need to kill this boss,
and there was a lot in it that can make that go wrong,
but we're getting a lot of very deep runs.
Now, Gretnas, I'll ask you, because I've already talked to Cams for about four hours.
When do you think they're going to call it tonight?
So if I were them, if we don't see progression, like, okay, if it gets to 12.30, and our
best is still that 9.81%, I'd probably just go to it.
The thing is, there's maintenance schedule tomorrow till 10, so there's kind of not
too much harm in going until, like, one.
But maintenance could end early.
It could end early, but that's not a huge risk, right?
Like you just fly in to be ready for 10 in worst case you've missed an hour or so, okay, but often usually you won't
all right
Yeah, I'm so I feel like we've been seeing them go to bed quite early in the yeah
That's the problem is that like if you try and push it the play quality is going to deteriorate
Obviously you go for it if it's the last boss because you're just worried you're gonna lose world first, right?
Yeah, but you're not this day. Yeah
Yeah, but definitely a lot higher than Kaiveza. Yeah, this is absolutely important. It was like kind of no reason to extend on Kaiveza, where there's like four different very big reasons to kill this boss tonight.
Yeah, getting that weekly, getting that in before the end of the weekly reset would be huge. Yeah. It's crazy as well that they don't have fantasies that they were able to commit to this, having spent almost all of them on Kaiveza.
Yeah, actually who's in here different than Kaive as a I think splat on the warlock
Exept me on the party. Well, we have this a hearty
Lesson lip in wearing on the princess. Yeah, I wonder I think certainly
Yeah, second tank. That's true
Yip skits to play again. Mm-hmm. He had a lot. I don't know one tanker here
I don't know if you saw um, I
I don't think it was the 980 try. I think it was the 14% try that we had earlier
But Gips had a lot of fun tanking that and there towards the end
So he was literally like giggling to himself once he like healed back up after nearly like getting wonked on the head
Oh, okay. Oh, it must be called. Okay. Yeah
So just for comparison and the past night's liquid has been going to bed between 11 and 12 p.m. Local time
Yeah, currently it is 10 43 p.m. So we're not even yet at that limit currently
They're still well within there should be feeling good. Yeah, and I assume we're go at least to 12
That's kind of what I was just no reason not to with the maintenance scheduled right till 10 right
I can't even really get started at 9. I mean you can I'm sure a lot of people will be here then just because they'll have woken up
But I don't think that there's I think you go until at least one
for this kill. Yeah I think if they're looking hot they just you know go to two
maybe even would you go like three? I heard I was it earlier you were saying
like 4 a.m. is the like four and I've never seen I've never seen bulls at 4 a.m.
in the tunnel to world first before I apparently Kahoon went to 6 a.m. yeah
that was a very late yes yeah fortunate incident the incident remember what was
it was it and when where was it the jailer I don't recall one of these two was
really hard on heroic I believe both of them were pretty hard on her yeah but my
guilt was staying up pretty late to deal with them and max was watching over my
shoulder back in Boston saying like oh yeah okay
kill this intimidating undercover yeah this boss is like a lot more manageable
than I think everybody expected and it was like when I woke up today and saw
the percentages that echo and method got it to yeah okay maybe this is
killable and then we got that like 13% is like oh this is dead right it's a
it's a very very clearly killable boss in a way that you know Kyveza when we
looking at the percentages it was a lot like oh wow they're going to have to find a lot of damage
here it's more like okay these mechanics are hard but if they have a poll where they do them all
the boss will die on that poll there's not going to be this you know 3 percent 0.75 percent 0.65
percent nonsense that we saw in kaibaza no you just need to get like a good blood loss
where they're stacked right that has been a big issue and then you don't just demolish them
You cannot lose players. If we get to the Bloodlust with everybody alive and they're stacked well, I think this boss is a goner.
Yeah, they're going to do 25% of the boss's health maybe in the Lust. It's going to be substantial.
They're going to have the Spine Masters Web, Pot, Lust, all the cooldowns. They'll be stacked, damage amp on both of them for a short window.
and the comp is kind of built around that.
Yeah, it's going to be ridiculous how much damage they do.
And I think, it's just so difficult because that's the hardest part of the fight.
They have like every mechanic at once leading into this double damage amp
and everything has to go right, where they can stun the boss in the middle
and also get the spells off quick enough that it's damage damped at the same window as a new brush is.
Yeah, I don't how do you feel about like fights that concentrate the difficulty so much at the end?
I like it. I like the one that the end is the hard part.
I much prefer that to the ones where the like B1 is by far the hardest part like Stone Legion Generals
One of the many problems with that fight was that the end was the easiest bit and the start was the hard part
Yeah, bad and all of the bugs. Yeah. Yeah, there are a lot of problems that fight
I think it's nice if it's like if the difficulty curve is set up such that like it's a really
incredibly hectic end to the fight and then you know you figure it out you do it once
you know like oh my god we're gonna kill the boss right yeah rather than that kind
of feeling of like okay we've made it to p3 with everybody alive the boss is low let's
end at home right like that that's a lot less satisfying to me yeah I wonder why
they only have they have like two groups of players that are in the back here while
everybody else just kind of rotates around yeah assuming it's for damage
it's just a lot easier to cast exactly yeah fired up doesn't want to do four
circles around the boss so he's partnered up with a mark of rage player and
they're just soaking each other's orbs yeah they do the they have their own
partners so fired up is partnered up back there with I think it's cool and
then THD is partnered up with granico and they have like their own pie sizes
that they're rotating in whereas the melee cluster, they do the circles because they don't
care that much about walking, they just go round and round and trink their orcs.
Yeah, we have some target pull evokers in there as well and healers and stuff who, they have
to lose some uptime but not too much as well.
Looks like we've been pushing weaker updates between a lot of these pulls as well so hopefully
they're able to figure this out.
Certainly as we're starting to get late, we're starting to get to that point where
they have been going to bed in previous nights, it's going to be important for
morale that they keep the good pools happening. What you really don't want to
have happen here is like 30 minutes or an hour of P1 wipes. That can be so
crushing to morale and that can cause people to lose focus and then if you try
and stay up later you're just gonna throw bad time away. That's almost how
long it was between that 14 and that 9% try though. So that was round about
an hour or two I would say. So quite a lot of time where they had a bunch
of very very early tries and then after that 9% try we had some pretty good deep runs so
well well let's have this run up car to pause over here I think it definitely is I think
maybe chat needs to actually finally lock in and do some good hype manning because
they've been they've been discussing some things you know as chat does a little bit of yapping
here and there I'm gonna need y'all to lock in.
Yeah focus up.
Focus up.
die here. So much of why I was a mental game and you just don't want to cross
that point where you know I'm sure when they saw the 13% they go like let's go
let's kill it tonight and you just don't want to go late enough or it starts
getting messy and that thought starts going in like oh no I thought this was
like a sure thing tonight and now it's looking iffy and you just you want to
be focused on the on the game you don't want to be thinking about the
competition because that's not gonna help you do better. Yeah you know
It's incredibly paradoxical that, you know, Liquid is so motivated by winning what is a PVP competition of you're up against other guilds, right?
You want to do it first. And yet, you are only ever playing against the computer, right?
What they do doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is, you know, strategy, stealing and stuff, and knowing if you have to go for it on a certain day or not.
But it's not like you're actually playing against somebody else, right? When you're fighting these bosses.
You've got to definitely make sure that you don't let that, you know, poison your thinking,
your gameplay.
Yeah, because you only have so much cognitive load, and part of that's taken up by your
rotation and like remembering, you know, what's coming up on the fight and then if you just
are kind of maybe being too self-critical or thinking about like, or just being tired
even.
Yeah.
you know, you start diminishing some of that your load and yeah, I mean, that's why we were
looking at the graph earlier and it's just you can see on it for like Kive as a when they
were tired and then when they woke up in the morning was based on that progression.
Yeah, it's a shame because today we cannot try and come back and kill this in the morning.
Well, apparently Max just set 4 am.
I don't know how serious that was, but Chad is quoting it.
All right, 4am, let's get it.
I mean, if there was ever a scenario that would bench really hard, it's this exact scenario.
Yeah, as long as your gameplay isn't deteriorating, you should go until as late as possible tonight,
because, I mean, what's going to happen? You're going to wake up tomorrow?
What's the difference between waking up tomorrow at, you know, 10am or noon?
Not really anything.
And I quote from Axe, we're killing this boss tonight.
I don't care if it's 4am.
I'm doing some scrip.
So love it
It seems not only chat is locked in I think the Raiders are also locked in maybe for today
We can do a one-time ban on the late-night monsters
To get this boss. Yeah, I get them out there right now
Usually usually those are reserved for like noon, you know morning energy, but today I think we might need that buffer
Staying up that late
Yeah, the last time I oh, maybe going to get a monster right now could be popping an M
Perhaps I don't know I don't know I don't have max is given permission yet breaking the today
He broke his 2 p.m. Rule had a couple of sips of M after after to yeah
Yeah, are people keeping track on that or he had to try and justify it to the
Yeah, that's one of the one of the good things about being in leadership is you know rules for
but not for me yep yep there he is locked in locking those glasses in to
position on the bridge of his nose all right I wonder if he's it's gonna it's a
different kind of fatigue but there's gonna be something draining about just
saying the same stuff over and over and over and over and then kind of having
not that much control I think there it's more fatiguing to be the 21st
than to be one of the 20 in this context,
because you have to be equally locked in,
but you don't actually get to play the game, right?
Like, for me, anytime I'm trying to stay focused
on something like this, and I can't actually play,
that's much harder, I think.
Doing that for 16 hours plus,
because you have to make the exact same calls.
Like, you have to call the same mechanics,
and on this fight, it's not just reading from a script,
you have to actually adapt to what's happening
and make intelligent calls,
But you also can't have mechanics that you're calling some but not all the time
That's very easy as you start getting tired to start being like a you know to zone out for a bit
But then everybody else relying on you to say like oh use your defensive seer we have every line coming up simple
Oh blah blah blah blah blah blah, so I do think
It's a different kind of fatigue that comes through with it. I
Don't see any monsters in the hands. They're getting some pizza could be
Looking for some snacks
There's still pizza there. I think there is still pizza there. I can confirm as of 15 minutes ago
Yeah, I had some of the cheese bread. That was pretty good. Oh, yeah, cheese bread does go
Pretty well for a nice little late-night snack. It's snack. Yeah, hoping I saved some room for late-night pizza
Oh, well, that's gone now cams. That's why you were steering. I was like, what are you staring at back there?
But the microwave is definitely in use
Okay, you guys want to hear a controversial take?
Pizza is better.
The cold pizza, the morning after, it's so nice.
I would never put that on the microwave.
I feel like when you just get the cheese all kind of congealed together, and it's like
separated from the bread, and you can take it off as like its own slice, like, oh wow.
Fellow man of culture.
Yeah, right there, that's what I live for.
I like cold pizza.
I like cold cheese bread, too.
Yeah.
but it's good that they're kind of like walking around. That's healthy. Looks like this has been
somewhat divisive in chat here. We've definitely got some partisans on both sides. Such a red
fleck take. What do you say to them? Fair enough. We weren't going to get one anyway. You didn't
try to defend yourself? No, no, it's good. It's good. It's, you know, that's, uh, okay. That's
useful. All right, we've got some, uh, we've got some dogs to show. Yeah, we do. Let's take
take a look. I mean there have been many late World of Warcraft nights where we order pizza
and then it just sits out on the counter all night and I'll still eat it. Yeah. It's not
cold it's just whatever room temperature. Okay room temperature is a lot worse than fridge.
But I'll do it. So? Caesars. Just in case you're wondering for $30 you can send in your trans
box or your pet pictures it's all going to a great cost exclamation mark charity
Santa Monica animal shelter and Splink has done just that. This has been me and
my doc Elliot the past couple of days work laptop pictured don't tell my boss
it was bribed with the treat and tummies critches for getting his picture
taken wow well I think he deserves another treat because he's doing
excellent in this looks locked in yeah locked in that's good that's what we
need to get to 4 a.m. hopefully not all the way to 4 a.m. mm-hmm hopefully we
can get this thing before then yeah for yeah so our ghost fist pumps and
It's 4 a.m. Yeah, maybe not 4 a.m. I think you'll kill this before 4 a.m. But maybe if meet be maybe also 4 a.m.
We'll see I think we still have a little bit longer. Yeah
I did chat us you're a man of many languages. Would you do me the favor of pronouncing our
Michael
It's that's a French combination letters at the end. Okay, the French thing where you make the ours like
Okay, that's a French thing?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, well, sent in by Ash Shabba, a character here, a little frosty-k.
A little sirmar-inspired.
Yeah, looks like it.
It's pretty crazy.
The sword's not quite matching, but it does look nice.
I like the little purple touches.
I think it goes well with the light blue, but I agree.
The sword is a little bit teal colored, no?
Yeah, a little teal of the rest of purple.
I'm going to go a nine on this one.
A nine?
Yeah, I'll give it an 8.5.
Pretty strong.
Tiny bit lower.
I don't like the mismatch on the weapon,
but it's definitely giving me frost and the big stompies.
Give it a 7.8.
I like the big shoes.
I don't know if they just do something for me.
Looks good.
Thank you.
Wow, that's good that that is a pure skill that is impressive. I
Like to see how this photo came about
I imagine that she has won a game of fetch by a lot
It is not close
No, is there a fourth or fifth ball maybe in that mouth?
Oh our ghost actually sent in a hundred dollars. Thank you so much
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
saying Bella's a Golden who has been holding 3 tennis balls since she was about 3.
She is now 11 and still doing it, and she should keep doing it.
Yeah.
Look at her.
She has trained.
Wow.
That was Kalamazoo.
Great skill.
That is Kalamazoo with all of his food ever.
Yeah.
He's doing that with nuggets.
That's right.
Bella looks so cute.
Love her.
Next transmogs coming in here.
M-S-X?
Yes.
I'm not sure, N-A-Y.
That's certainly a transmog of all time.
This is a PvP or a transmog for sure.
Oh yeah, I can see that.
I can tell you that for free.
So the PvPers are the more chaotic mugs?
Yeah, also I recognize the name, so I know it's a PvPer.
Oh.
But also the PvP, it's a mug of a PvPer.
Okay, can you elaborate? What tells you that?
I recognize the name, so I know it's P.V.
No, no, but like why is it also...
So this is Lord Mass that sent that in.
Yeah.
What about it without knowing the name tells you that it's a P.V.P. transloct?
It's just chaotic.
Okay, here's what I'll say. You could tell it's a good player.
Nope, nobody except for good players will mog their characters to look that.
Silly.
Silly, yes, that's what I was going for.
Saving you?
I'm gonna use many of the letters of silly yeah, I figured you would
Because I have warm out off and I will never be a threat or this guy will never be a threat to me
So bad it's intimidating. I'll give it a well-meaning
I really don't want to read this
10
Any any nice barefoot dark iron dwarf mug. Oh, yeah, there we go. Oh my god. That's good
Oh, I didn't know we had the new Blizzard Cinematic Director behind production.
Real.
Played enough in the night, we can't show the test.
It goes hard, I will say, but it's also very ugly.
Here we have something that definitely isn't a very cute dog.
Hello, Zenny sent in by Zazuba.
Let me see if we have some notes on this one.
one. My rescue dog Sennie wants all her brothers and sisters at Santa Monica to be adopted.
How great you are! If you guys are, well, not even just US, but preferably in the US,
you can head on over to tl.gg slash adopt where you'll find the link to the Santa Monica
animal shelter and all their dogs and cats. You're currently maxed out on dogs, so
they're trying to get these babies a new loving home and the raiders, I can tell
you are pulling. So we're gonna be hopping over to that next pole there. And yeah, we
had Simba here from the shelter, very, very cute dog, very cuddly, trying to get him adopted,
but also all of his brothers and sisters at the shelter, of course.
All right. So a little break timer has ended. It's now 11 p.m. local time, getting ready
to lock in here for as many hours as it takes, allegedly, for this boss to die.
Throwbacks to Sylvanas where they went very late into the night. I was there for that
Yeah, you and I were both there for that the 3 30 a.m. Was when they called it on Sylvanas
Almost broke the 4 a.m. Almost. Yeah, the press voice
They've got a wed this boss. Yep. This one has been very rarely but not never the cause of their wipes recently
Nice and stunned into the wall
A little bit of an opportunity for a Damage Amp there, although it's kind of awkward because
it's so early in the fight that almost nobody has CDs ready for that Damage Amp unless they
hold for they started the fight.
Very awkward.
Getting distracted by Colimausian in my ear.
Oh?
Or something.
He just keeps saying my name.
Oh yeah, that's probably productive.
That was giggly.
Messing with you.
That's tough.
I can't hear anything.
Me neither.
Yeah.
That's just you.
Targetive harassment.
Yeah.
They're in front of the production area.
We fired up with a nice blast wave.
Yeah, put it out off of him.
We saw Dranaco block as well.
It's like they've managed to maneuver this pretty nicely.
Yeah, what do you think about ice block instead of ice cold?
We're trying to figure out why. I mean, they block.
So he doesn't spawn a moat, right?
Whenever he blocks?
Yeah, if you just don't take any damage from any damage event,
it won't cause you to drop a moat.
But do you think that's good tech to just avoid two moats
every how many minutes it is?
It makes no sense. When you think about a fight like this, you know, you're a mage, you've still got mirror images, barrier, mass barrier, greater invis.
I forgot about all of that.
You've got a lot of tools to help you live. You don't necessarily need ice cold because the damage on this fight isn't tuned to be quite as constantly lethal as Kaiveza was.
And you can also then, I think you can get under the boss and block to immune your debuff onto it in P2 and P3,
Which does seem to actually come up quite often that it would be nice for them to have that option, so
Maybe that's part of the rationale there behind the ice block instead of ice cold decision
Okay, yeah the debuff
Dispel and the car I've been
Yeah interested about the warlocks on the cop. Yeah solid
But I wonder if you could just do a mage instead of a lock and to be better
I was wondering that as well. This does seem like a pretty well suited fight for the arcane mage in particular
But both the HG and Splat have been making that affliction warlock look pretty solid.
Yeah, not to say that they're bad. Maybe, well, I guess we can't see the full devs' damage on detail.
Yeah.
That is the hard part.
That could be higher.
Those bombardments from the scale commander here at TALENTRY do show up under other people on the details meters right now, so...
Devastation value is a little bit understated.
This should be a very good fight for Devastation, evoker, because whenever the two bosses are stacked up,
You are getting tremendous value from those extra eternity surges the masses integrate as well hitting both of them a lot of that damage the fire breath
All that kind of stuff hitting those two targets very nicely
Yeah, it's so good on this fight that even though this seems like an odd fight because you could just stack cool
Right public cool downs in the damage amp that the dev is still just I mean a rank a fully charged fire breath or dragon rage even into the
into those shields or not in the shields rather but into the
Damage amps is very high value. You can also take unravel for the shields during those intermissions to a little bit of extra value
Oh, yeah, I forgot. It is a little bit annoying because a lot of these damage amps are happening when the bosses are low
So outside of dragon rage you're gonna be losing some damage as a dev evoker because of the way that their mastery works right?
Their mastery increases their damage to high health targets and also all of their damage during dragon rage
But yeah, it's, I mean it still should be very good. You should still have Dragon Rage
Spymasters lust during a double damage amp and that should just absolutely nuke both of
these targets.
I wonder if we'll see some Shadow Priest next week.
Yes Shadow Priest.
It's got a door buff.
Is that enough?
So my guess would be no, but I also would have guessed that the Moonken buffs would
have also been not enough to ever see them get used.
And somehow they were.
Yeah.
It's possible that 4% is enough to make them, I mean, if ever there were a fight for Shadow
Priest, you would think it would be this one, but maybe the amount of movement is kind of
awkward for them.
And the scarabs, though, they start with a damage reduction on them.
It's perfect time to set up your dots on them.
We're going to have a wipe here on the second charge of the fight.
Yeah, and those scarabs would get you a twist of fate.
Right, you have a constant twist of fate uptime.
They are also pretty good at bursting too, right?
Can you see these go and dump a bunch of devouring plagues into one of those bosses while it
is taking that extra damage?
Yeah, true.
A lot better at it than they used to be.
Used to be very little burst damage in the Shadow Freeze kit.
Well, Shadow's gone through like 30 different reworks over the last 10 years, but many
of those versions, especially the oldest ones, didn't have any burst at all.
Same with Frostmage, actually.
Frostmage now a decently bursty spec too.
You would kind of expect to see it on a fight like this too, because you know, two targets
splitting ice.
Yeah.
But not good enough.
Yeah.
The problem is just that Arcane exists and Arcane is also really good and real nice.
I agree.
That's a problem.
Yeah.
I was watching Echo this morning or maybe last night, it blends together.
It all blurs together.
Yeah.
And hopeful was playing Fire Mage.
Yeah.
But he wasn't doing like insane damage, so he was probably just a little science.
It's possible.
Fire is getting buffed on the reset, although not in a lot of ways that are going
affect this encounter in particular the flame strike buff not gonna matter for
this the living bomb buff very inconsequential the Phoenix lines buff is
nice but mostly it's it's a buff for situations other than a fight like this
I think but fire is naturally well suited to a fight like this because you can
be fully mobile below 35% yeah and also just quite mobile in your CDs too
yeah which is very good I maybe you place on King's blessing that's kind
the only time you stand still but I think you play like hyperthermia and
you're like almost always doing globals either in combust or with
hyperthermia and there's usually even if you're playing something's that
blessing there's usually a way to to make it work right like you're playing
either shimmer or ice flows and that can also help you yeah set up that big long
pyroblast that you got to do. Dretna, would you say you're underwhelmed by this boss?
Because going in, a lot of our pole predictions were kind of very high for the Silicon Court.
Now we're here, 160 poles in, and it's kind of like any pole territory.
I think I predicted like 187 on this fight, so...
Did you?
I'm feeling pretty good about that cast right now.
I don't know, I think this fight is the kind of fight where it can be really hard,
but it's hard in the way that they are so good at solving.
Right it's like figuring out all these movement plans all these heuristics about who should go where
Coming up with groupings of players and strategies against mechanics that it's really impressive
It's really tough to do it's going to be a really fun progression experience for a lot of guilds
But it's not one of those things where it's like Kai Vezza where it's just like yep
These abilities all kill you unless you have three defensives rolling and like you also need to find a way to do 8 billion damage
Right that that isn't what this fight is although the inridge check is not trivial this week
By any stretch
But yeah, I think that this is is not an underwhelming fight for me. I think this is I mean it
You know approaching 200 bulls for an ultimate boss is high for an average penultimate boss. We're kind of blurred by
Tindrel recently, but we go back, you know, usually it's like a hundred hundred fifty something like that is an average penultimate boss
I think it's not so much being
Flurred by Tindrill, rather be flurred by Kaiveza and Openaxe.
Very fair. I think that it's definitely...
You know, there were a lot of people that were like, oh my goodness, this is going to be even more epic and difficult and tuned to a...
But there was no way to go up from Kaiveza's tuning, right? Like, relatively?
That's true. Anything more than Kaiveza and you're just not...
Right, it would just be like, okay, we're waiting for Week 2 gear.
There's also been a lot of stories of the mythic testing of this boss, which it sounds
like they tuned down some of the ability frequency.
They made some of the mechanics as well a lot more manageable, right?
With some decisions that are pretty small seeming but massively impactful, like the
way that the web bombs are always targeted at players with the red marks rather than
just random range players, that gives you a huge degree more freedom and planning
that you can use on a fight like this.
It didn't work that way on testing. The frontal also always aimed at one of the players in the blue group, although that's a little bit less important. You can always dodge that frontal.
Okay, yeah. I didn't know how the web bomb spawned.
Yeah, it used to be. In testing, they would just target a bunch of ranged players, so what we would do is we put all of our ranged players in one of the groups to try and make that work.
But that imposes some restrictions on how many ranged players you need to play, which this fight no longer has.
Yeah, I wonder if they just determined that that boss was gonna be like just a tindrel 2.0
And they're like we don't want one of these like 400 pull bosses anymore
I don't know if was it spoken on tindrel or like how it was tuned, but I
Mean it's probably cool if you made the boss to see it be such a challenge. Yeah, so it's like okay
We're gonna like kill our players with stuff like this if we keep doing it
I actually I think this boss for a lot of guilds is gonna be a lot harder than Kaiveza
Even if Kaiveza doesn't get nerfed, which I think there's decent chance it will it's it's not on this reset
But I bet it will in some future resets because the difficulty of this fight
Doesn't really go down with gear in a way that Kaiveza's does in a lot, right?
I bet Kaiveza is like oh this damage fills you to this damage doesn't kill you
That's a huge deal, right? This fight, you know, you're just gonna you're still gonna die if the motes aren't done properly
You're still gonna die if you're in the wrong places
So I think that for a lot of guilds, this is going to be a higher pull count boss than Kaivessa
Yeah, that makes sense
Once they actually get to it. Yeah, I do think for my taste guilds will probably reach Kaivessa
Before they have the gear where it's trivial. Yeah
With how many girls are already an oven axe and oven axe now receiving a little bit of nurse
I assume that several guilds will be able to finish off for twister next ID
and then they'll be standing there at an unnerved Kaivessa going, well, see you guys next week.
Yeah, mark me down for predicting that Kaivessa's getting nerfed on the next race, that.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think that is probably next race there.
Even with here, that boss is a really tight check, right? Like it was barely killed by liquid at 622 with one tank and Vantage Runes, right?
So like an average guild probably needs like 635 and two tanks to be able to do it with a two tank strategy
If it doesn't get some further nerfs
Yeah, maybe 630 how far did you get on on Britswester? We're like 30% in that fight
So it's pretty good. Yeah dies for sure tomorrow or whatever we next I don't know if we're gonna do it tomorrow
We got obviously every week you got farm to do one of the exciting things about the reset also for the race
world first. It's going to be interesting to see how many splits and stuff they do tomorrow
versus getting right back into the raid. There's of course mythic re-clear, that's probably
one of the earlier things you do because you want to figure out what kind of items
are going to drop.
Depends on whether or not you kill this boss and see queen answer. Because if you
see queen answer, that'll tell you a lot about which classes might be good and then
You know what to bring into the splits whereas if that doesn't happen
Let's say they go long tonight. They do not kill this boss, which we're all not hoping for and they go into tomorrow
Then I think it's going to be mythic re clears
Kill this boss look at Queen answer and then do splits. Yeah, that makes them then you can double use that time most
valuably where
The officers team is coming up with a strat for answer. Well, the rest of the guild is doing all of the splits
and that way you kind of get the best out of your time that you have that's
actually I bet they're gonna stay up late tonight even if they kill the boss on
this pole pulling some answer I got for sure yeah I mean that's why you go late
right that well that is the reason why you go late you want to kill those boss
you want to take a look at answer act yeah and have that information and echo and
method at least for another day won't have and maybe won't have for two days
it's tough because like the information you'd want from answer act is what
happens to be too right how important is add damage versus boss damage versus
cleave versus knock immune versus windrush totems all these different
effects right and you're not going to necessarily get there with like an hour
of off-stream pulling if you kill this thing right now or in a couple hours but
you'll definitely get something but yeah the sooner they could kill this boss
the more they can actually pull for a few hours on answer I can get some
really good info another thing they were talking about doing earlier in the
day was a four out of eight run to gear perspective characters that haven't yet
gotten saved to this lockout because those first three bosses in particular are
quite easy and they could definitely kill with their split characters there is
some pretty good loot especially from the third boss and the fourth boss as
well has the has the very rare but there's a bunch of weapons and stuff
from Sikron there would be really nice to get on characters plus mythic vaults
for any character that they would be thinking about playing, so.
That is something we may see them do. I suspect that if they kill this boss though, it's going to be Ancerek as the higher prior.
Maybe you could find a way to get some, I don't know, friends or something, helpers to do a first three-bit thing while the rest of the guild is pulling Ancerek.
I don't know if that's possible, this late in the reset though.
Yeah, it's definitely a bit late, I've been like, I thought we were doing that to an extent
while they were figuring out strats for this boss, but I don't know if it did.
Oh, maybe it did already happen then, yeah.
If it did actually happen.
There was definitely a talk of it.
Yeah, I heard them talking about it before.
It's definitely possible they would have done that.
What would be your best guesstimate on how much item level they get, like,
on this boss next week?
Yeah.
Okay, so right now they are 6.22.
Right now they are 6.22.1.
Okay, so next reset, you're getting 90 gilded crests.
You're getting crests.
Yeah, you're getting a spark, but the spark doesn't have any itemable unless you put crests into it.
It's 6.19 if you use one of your free enchanted rude crests, which might be an upgrade in a slot or something.
But mostly so you've got a great vault piece and that's going to be like one slot going let's say probably from like 613 to 6
30 ish
So that's one eye level right every every 15 ish. Eye levels on a single piece is one eye level on your character
So yeah, you're probably getting you're probably getting one eye level from your vault on your character
You're probably getting one eye level from your gilded crests. Maybe one and a half there
They're probably past needing runecrests on most of their guys, but they definitely are
getting any runecrest upgrade they still need as well.
So let's call that half an eye level.
And then you're getting any items that drop for you during Mythic Reclear, which the
first few bosses aren't necessarily going to have that many huge eye level upgrades
that later bosses might.
So I want to guess like 626 and a half will be their raid eye level once they
are done getting all of next week's gear.
They might pull bosses before that happens, but I think they'll probably want to get most of that before they they do that
That's my guess. Okay
Yeah, four and a half eye level
What's the highest that you can upgrade something to six thirty nine this tier?
Very high. Yeah
Lot of there's a long road to go, but
You're gated by the 90 guilders per week
they may decide to make a crafted piece with their 90 guilders as well, but
It's a little bit less efficient to do that, than to just upgrade pieces if you have good pieces to upgrade.
Unless you're making a two-hander. But anybody who was doing that, I think already did that this week.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, there's also a catalyst charge coming next week, but that doesn't directly affect the item level,
unless they maybe have an off-piece to catalyze on the mid-track, and...
Yeah, if they're still wearing, like, a roic piece.
Yeah, the catalyst charge is gonna be huge for me.
Yeah, I'll finally get a two piece.
It's big. It's a big charge.
Yeah, I love that they started that early.
They did lose Scott. I thought that was to an orb.
He's not taking the res so possibly.
I think he's just waiting to be safe.
Could be.
He has the res pending, but this might be a bad phase to actually accept it.
Looks like he's getting resed once again.
Yeah, and he's going up, so he isn't permanent,
because if you do get three marks,
you do get permanently killed which is also I don't know when when was the last
time that we saw something like this where if you mess up badly you cannot
return from the dead and yeah it kills you you know in a really nasty way I
don't remember the last boss I know it has been done before yeah yeah I can't
I remember what's off on my head.
Oh, actually, Magmarax had that mechanic.
Right, if you had 40 stacks, you would take the res and you
would die again.
Oh, true.
True.
I didn't, yeah.
I probably knew that at one point, but that's not
the thing I'm thinking of, or that's
like floating around in there that's familiar.
What are we having the random deaths here, too?
I'm not sure.
Anytime we see two deaths, you're thinking maybe there
was a collision, but I don't know for sure.
And I think a lot of the deaths at this point are either people just trying to save the raid,
grabbing a third stack, or accidentally getting a third stack and dying, or yeah, some sort
of collision.
It's really rough on the, like, suckins, and the people get webbed, like, right here.
This seems to be, like, one of the hardest parts to coordinate, because yeah, you see
the blue gets sucked in, like, right after, and then there's some orbs in there that
the red people have to then go get, while the blue run to the other side, like,
Look how close they are to each other.
You get pretty hard to see under a new barash.
They're going to keep going.
They have a rez to probably get the heal up.
Yeah, the chances of a kill with the berserk timer have gotten very low with even a single death.
Especially if it's a player like Dranaco.
Like those meages doing so much damage.
You have that spy master.
You want to be sending into that bloodlust every single time it happens.
the fire up just rises on that damage reader into the oblivion and
Drennich will obviously also be known that Arcane Mage would be great
down there too so probably going to be a lot of lacking damage but like you said
Seria is a healer just unfortunately a little bit more valuable because otherwise
no one lives they'll try to at least get into that face one more time here
they have a lot to practice it's this pattern here where we every now and
then get spike deaths and then after that they need to get that charge ride
where the big beetle needs to be stopped before the middle part of the room to
get that double stack to get that damage burn onto the boss. And if anyone's
wondering like if they can't do it to knock or why don't they just like try
again it's because they kind of don't get to this part of the fight that
often and it's still useful for everybody to practice this dance with
these rings, because this part is complicated.
You can get speared up by those circles,
and they have to grab the orb.
Sometimes they get a really tricky spot
where they need to make a quick move to grab them
before they expire or before the other group starts
getting pushed into their area.
And so it's always good to get the reps,
especially in spots where you don't see very often.
Yeah, there's a lot of value to the practice,
especially in a fight like this,
as we talked about where the last phase
is the hard part, right?
Even with a couple of players dead, it's not one of those fights where it's like, oh, we have people dead, therefore we can't kill these adds, therefore we aren't getting realistic practice, right, like Grudkvister for instance.
A couple of people dead, okay, the spiders aren't gonna die in a realistic time frame, the worms aren't gonna die in a realistic time frame, our practice is kinda cursed.
Like that's not really what's happening here. You have a couple of people who are maybe not getting good practice and maybe have to do improvising a little bit on the web breaks,
But they're just keeping all of their webs unbroken is the strat right now. So so it works out
There's a lot of webs there one got broken
But they did stop it at least for now. That's not the one where we sent the damage him
That's I think the one before that
Now we are gonna get that grab in one more time
Yeah, you can see the red players that kind of come up against the wall
Oh, maybe not on the set they get grip they leave orbs where they got ripped from who a collision possibly
then they run and get those other orbs and then the blue group I think is the harder job because they get gripped in and
They have to run out of the circles, but then the red orbs are like in the circle
So they get they can have the problem where they're running out and they can't go
To the right because that's what the blue players are
But if they just kind of blindly run to the left they might pick up three stacks on their way out
And then they have to go back in and get them. It's very tight timing
absolutely one of the
One of the sketchiest parts of the fight for sure any time you're getting gripped into that boss. I
Think those are those are the parts. We've been seeing be least consistent
Over the night for team liquid especially I guess they're orienting themselves with the wall a bit
But you know you get gripped in you your camera you're inside the guy
It can be you might be strafing the wrong way if you don't adjust yeah
And you only have a couple of seconds to react at most yeah
It's very fast and then you can't run away from your web partner if you're one of the people assigned to break the boss out
And when they have to do those like dodging the circles and doing the web break
It's one of those moments where I feel like every time
They do it without people dying. It's like a miracle. Yeah, I don't know how they all managed to live there
But they did it and then they have to do that like three times
Absolutely, I
I wonder like how the raiders are feeling because they've been going to bed so early in the last couple of days
But they might be starting to feel a bit tired. They they haven't
Pushed it yet any nights right there have any nights that we've we've burned any reserve energy yet
So now could be the night that they lock in and decide to burn some of that midnight oil
They've been here before as well
DHG always kind of free-sleeping.
Oh yeah, he has that energy management down.
Yeah, exactly. He's saving. He's locked in. Smile on his face.
Ready to continue gaming.
Yeah, rocking that SpongeBob necklace.
Yeah. Fired up. Getting growing up.
Was a young pup when I first met him.
Becoming a man. Firema- er, not firema-age.
Not this year, unfortunately, yet. No.
It's confusing because he has fire in his name.
It is.
Shaquib furrowed brow.
Yeah, Shaquib always looks like he's thinking about stuff and rarely is.
To be fair, he has a lot of brain capacity being blocked off by playing Demon Hunter.
I'm not gonna lie, this boss in particular is so hard with needing to move in order
to do damage.
Every single time we're on his POV I can only applaud the guy.
It's insanity.
Don't get baited by that pull timer, that's just people are
Weak ores are open and so bars are being are going down on week or as is why
That it causes us to look like we got a pull timer, but they are still fixing some stuff
I can see some bug report windows open like not bug reports, but
bug sack the add-on so I think they're fixing some
Potential Lua errors being thrown by some of their week or a stuff right now
100% sure this tier doesn't seem very weak or heavy. No, it's it hasn't really been
Weak or intensive I mean so on over next for instance you have week or as a sign your eight players
To appease to four eggs, right?
But on the other fights, there's really not too much like you can have a bunch of reminders
You have a week or a friend this falls here. I think that's a pretty good one
And that gives you an order for the five targets. Yeah
It also goes up if one jumps wrong
So that'll also give you seven targets if needed be but again, it's a little bit more informational and a little bit less
telling you like which marker to go to when or anything like that like when we
think about say a jailer bomb week or oh yes there hasn't been a fight that has
had a week or I think that's good yeah I agree I'm I'm never a fan of that sort
of fight yeah I mean either and I like the blizzard because they didn't just
remove the functionality from week or as they've done stuff like that in the
past but they're just trying to figure out a way to design the fights we
don't really need one. Yeah, I mean Kavesa is extremely intricate mechanically, but it's all,
you just, you got a game, right? It's not a, not a fight where you can just have a week or a tell
you which position to go to and put a map on your screen to make the dashes work like you just
got to figure it out. Probably one of the best uses of that, that private door attack actually
is Kavesa making that impossible to do because otherwise you definitely would. Yeah, a lot
of hate on the private doors last year, but I think this time they've been done well.
Yeah, I'd just rotate as well, they did a lot of bad stuff in a Mirage Cylinder.
Yeah, this tier I think a lot better. Part of it as well is that they backed off of it
before the tier went live on mechanics where it would have been bad.
Like Ovenaxe for instance, the eight targets would have all been pressing a macro
if it was a private order mechanic like it was on the BTR for a while.
But they correctly backed off of that and now you just have a weak order to it
and you still have to play, right? Like you still see eggs failing to get broken by liquid,
buy every guild working on that boss because it is still quite difficult to do.
We're seeing a reload coming out from everybody.
There have been some updates potentially fixed to whatever Wecorra there they were having
some trouble with.
I know there's definitely been some work on that Fispell Wecorra.
There's been several iterations of it that I at least have seen.
It might have been something like this.
I don't know what else you could, Wikora, here.
Yeah, there's been some Wikoras that have tried to kind of tell you which direction to run after you're getting gripped in.
But it seems like they've actually just kind of got that systematized now.
Yeah, they have one Wikora that shows the amount of moats still up. I don't know how they're doing that.
Yeah, I think that that's just is counting the amount of damages that Wikora's on one.
And then counting how many events of people getting a stack there are.
Okay.
Doing a little subtraction, and then coming up with the number that must still be left in the ground.
This is why I do not make week-or-us.
Yeah, it's cool.
I'm not very good at them either, but I love figuring out and hearing how they work and how they're coded.
Yeah, I only did the basic ones.
Yeah.
You know, like the icons with the cool down.
I actually requested them.
And then sometimes a glow if need be.
I requested a week-or-or on Twitter earlier, and somebody made it. It was pretty cool.
What did you request?
It's one where if you are in town and you have war-bound gear in your bags, it reminds you to go put it in the bank.
Oh, that is a good one.
Yeah.
You'll have to go check out your tweet.
Yeah, hopefully we live in a world one day where chat
GPT can just make you weak, Oris.
Yeah.
I think it already can.
You can ask it to make one right now.
It just doesn't actually work.
But it'll say it does.
Yeah, it'll tell you confidently.
Yeah.
Well, we're like, here I made this.
Right.
Then you're like, this is actually not Lua.
And it's like, oh, yeah, you're right.
My bad.
Here it is is.
And then it's also not Lua.
It's not Lua right now.
Yeah.
Pretty good, pretty good.
Boomi Atlas collision has taken place
and they're just gonna wipe it up.
Yeah, this is early enough
that they're not gonna try and get any reps in.
This is a go next.
Once they get close to that P3,
that's when they wanna keep trying to go.
Someone in chat is asking,
Casters, can you explain what a private UR
or a private AURA is?
So basically when Blizzard makes a mechanic,
they have this new tech they developed
a bit over a year ago
where they can make it so that
your weak auras and add-ons don't know if you've been targeted by it.
Yeah, I think in order to explain this we need to go a bit more simpler.
So the way weak auras work is that every single spell or debuff or buff
is assigned with a spell ID
and it usually asks that or asks for events to happen in order to track them
on your screen.
And Blizzard has found a way, like Dratonus was saying, to private that.
So the the the weak aura people cannot actually find the data to make the weak aura.
Exactly. Now there have been several workarounds, some more clever...
Yeah, some sneakier than others.
And some sneakier than others, yeah, but for instance on Smolderon, when you're targeted by one of the orbs on Mythic that's chasing you down,
that was a private aura. It turns out those things had a threat table as well though that your weak auras could read so you could get around it that way.
And then there have been some fights like Fire Act where you get assigned a color in the intermission
and for the first few months of that fight existing, that was a private aura, so unless you did have a really clever workaround on it,
you had to press a macro on everybody in your raids.
You basically press a macro if you were red, and the weak aura couldn't tell you,
it couldn't tell if you were red or purple, but it could tell if you pressed the macro.
And if you pressed the macro, then, oh, you know, it would work again, so...
That's sort of the fail case of it, but something like Kaibasa where there's two pieces of information on that fight
Which is you're being targeted by a charge and also which specific image in which specific location is targeting you
That is way too much information for you to ever, you know press one of five different macros in time
So you just have to figure it out with your brain, which is the goal of private auras and yeah, that's great
so
basically
Lizard is fine with week or us being used for like Oh tracking your own cooldowns and like the fensives and
They adding your spells like available where you just have a week or a tell you go to square
Right. Yeah, they don't want week or us to solve the puzzles exactly
I think is a good description the jailer for instance a week or it would pop up on your screen
It would have the basically a map representation of the room and would highlight going to jump into this hole with this bomb and
And that was agreed to be stupid by everybody.
Yeah, yeah.
And so the private door attack is basically a response to that.
The problem is that that specific mechanic, if they redid it, we would solve with the Mach Resolution.
So they have to come up with these mechanics that are a little bit more than just that.
Well, it is getting a little bit later.
We're now around the time where the Raiders have ended in previous days.
We're going to be taking a monster energy listening and see how they're feeling right now, what the vibes are,
Whether or not the energy is good. We sure hope so
Don't run into anyone
But for rain and we're rotating do not cheat soaking orbs in 10 seconds
circles
Okay, we're rotating in three two one now
I'm a member we are on triangle and skull we're going left and you soak these orbs
and then you go as left as possible until the orbs spawn don't get hit by the
thing though hey it's gonna go to the left left left left left left left right
oh that's so much better by the way yeah yeah we're going right in three
two one go stop amateur damage yeah stop just stop completely stop do not
get a triple stack. Blast in three, two, one, go. Hit, hit hit hit hit hit hit hit hit.
Full damage, full damage hit hit hit hit hit. Fuck yeah. Max boss damage. That wasn't even
sketchy either. That's a safe.
Oh shit. Look at all of the.
Markers, markers, markers, markers, you have to go on your markers for vortex.
Make sure Ranger far enough back do not fluff these orbs.
Okay, this is red first, go left and right.
This is blue second, go forward.
And so first goes.
Okay, I think a lift is going under first,
lift in three, two, one, now.
Fire it up in three, two, one, now.
Yeah, I got it.
Atlas in three, two, one, now.
Exile in three, two, one, now.
MTC, wait.
What's up?
Exile, Exile, Exile, Exile.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's, yeah.
So I did see a few.
I just want to, so I can do it.
I'm buff shot.
They bait on triangle and score,
and then you're rotating onto your marker
after your frontal.
And then we're both going to the marker.
You want to be targeting Skynespinner here.
Blue's on the left.
Okay, and watch Skynespinner's arrow.
Go to the boss.
Go.
Okay, sucking.
This is blue first.
Blue go left and right.
And red go forward.
Okay, very good.
get orbs here boomi go into the boss in three two one go lip in three two one
go your knacko first after the port and three what's that side did it go on the
boss yeah it did yeah okay key see in three two one and after the frontal
Nick now good red and blast
Good class the boss here Fred
Yeah multiple seconds
Get one that one blue opposite of each other
Fred and then go work our damage is good right now, but obviously still keep blasting
You're not getting a three stack?
One.
Two.
Okay, a couple more orbs.
You're done?
Nice.
Blast the boss.
We're easily beating.
Watch out for an injured guy.
Take that, Retin.
Pick is a fucking psycho.
Oh my god, we got this.
Nice.
Okay.
So, Red, you are always going right this phase if you get the first one.
Make sure you give space the blue team.
Yep.
Red's on the wall here.
Red's on the wall, you do have a frontal and six.
off the wall ready beta off the wall research and then a number of ranged
ranged partners in the states nice first web vortex is in five seconds make
sure you're in range there's a couple of them so good first web vortex it's a red
first you're going right right right going right good and you're going
forward good and so it works now guys I will go across like you have one
An additional blue wall. Look at that.
Look at the red orb right now.
Yeah, look at the blue orb over there.
It's marked. If someone can get it, we got it.
Nice. Here's a blast door into each other.
Blue, red, blue, red, blue, red, blue.
Good.
That under was staying far blue.
Excellent. I'll break, okay?
I'm gonna break.
Okay.
Good. Yeah, make sure you red gate.
Just spread out, though. Spread out, bro.
It's up blue first. Blue's on the left and right.
Red goes forward.
Oh, my goodness.
for us. You need to tone the phones.
I'm going to turn it off.
So, the orbs if you can, this shit's in the middle of the room.
Just be careful. Dispality Buster.
Okay, we have a...
This is Shaq first in 3, 2, 1, now.
Booby under in 3, 2, 1.
And fireups can be first in the mid.
Nick move, good fire to mount.
That's the next one, Johnny. You need to bubble phone out.
Nick in 3, 2, 1, now.
Two in 3, 2, 1, now.
Tom is a rebel. It's like after the swarms running if you can never
Yep, the boss gonna teleport now on it now, Johnny
Doing it perfect. Okay, take it back
Nice the boss gonna teleport now
Yes, this is all red fall the TP and go behind
Right is going behind remember your range pairs here when we have to talk the next one
Okay, so web vortex, this is blue first go left and right
Blue first, go left and right. Red first, go forward.
Nice.
Okay, and everyone is so close now.
Webbing him in the middle, yeah.
Webbing him in the middle, yeah.
Go middle, everybody.
Red, give them room.
Everyone pot and lost.
Nice.
And Shaq first, Shaq one.
Zevi first, three, two, one.
Second, three, two, one.
We bounced.
We're just too slow.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, under was like cramp.
Well, the boss was also a little bit off-center too, right?
No.
Was it not?
Were they on top each other?
They were good enough.
It's just people weren't...
No, they weren't.
So look, like to stand under the boss,
if you're blue,
you would have to be like max,
of the new barrage. Like a new barrage needs to be six yards closer to the middle from where red was.
So if you guys are standing, I can finally get a picture. Like right here, you guys need to be like
ranged red here. You guys need to be eight yards closer in that direction.
Don't usually try and call the dispels quicker too because we usually have two done at least
with the tongue. Yeah, no, we could have done a lot of dispels. I was overloaded.
I think realistically you just call like you know metal webs and blue dispells there and you just focus on blue dispells because
yeah the middle webs you guys like the little brass thing on the ground this is where you need to be
for you rip your personal so what did you say they definitely want to be ripped their
Personals like some people are if you're low even like slightly low you should rip it when we're doing those this boss
Yeah, all right, let's go a couple damage and probably melee on rep just snapping the web since though
We're just following the group there webs
You just keep your fucking legs you jump
I'm just position spikes that you have so I'll try and run on the cold it's not it's just
I mean, it's fine. It's just so such an annoying time there
I think we're just doing both.
That was a really good hold on. That's the pull we needed to keep going so W ship.
That's another one under his spot.
Soaking on from 5. Is it being on take there?
It's too early.
Okay. Rotating. Okay, frontal on blue here. Okay, hand spawning soon. Good web bombs. Coming now.
and rotating pick and res and on so for it or so for it orbs on can soak here
more my my first that was before the damage or death I don't know but if
that was a blow-up you hitting other people is a very very common thing and
you need to just go slower if that's what happened I don't know that I just
My webbomb of unexploded did you made free the boss to Ilyani?
He ran straight through the fucking boss
No, that's it
Just like see to the end of the boss and it will buy we don't have to fucking do the short the short cuts
just just go just do it normal
that is that was by far the most demonic team
with me that's been like i did that with you when you just fucking ripped like crazy
i wake right now i can go for another six hours
i don't give a fuck how about that oh my shit oh
shes sheroe
fuck lesion and fuck walmart that's fucking red
fucking walmart dude
oh dude is he left right next to the blue people there that's so scary
i'm machining her
forward sample that's what we gotta do man
Yeah, I just feel like blue doesn't give me a lot of room, that's all.
Okay, so our orbs are blowing up in six.
Get that ad in.
Okay, a frontal here.
Getting a frontal.
And a web bomb here.
Okay, your friends.
And we're rotating now.
Stoking orbs in four, three, two.
We're good.
Ooh, boss is getting owned.
Ah, damn!
Good intermission time.
Go to your spots.
Triangle and soul.
Please do not be able to do the left of them.
Triangle and Skull. A triangle and Skull. Moving left in three, two, go.
Now remember when you do this soak here, you want to do your soak, and then you want to move as left as possible in three, two, one, now.
And then go right. Now the rest of the phase is on rails. Yeah, chill damage.
We're heading right in three, two, don't stack. Make sure we get all the oil.
or brilliant right okay oh it's a blue or yeah you guys see it someone can grab it it's easy just
make sure you move by the other spawn though make sure you move back to the spawn go go go
go back right stop damage stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop stop zero damage and go everyone
go last box get here uh this is triangle and yeah this x and square and get your web
board text positions. Take web board text now. This blue first going left and right. And red,
you're going second, you're going forward. Nice. First dispel is Shaq, but after we get some orbs.
So Shaq go under 3, 2, 1, now. Good. And fire it up in 3, 2, 1, now. Impek in 3, 2, 1, now.
Atlas in 3, 2, 1, now. Dang in 3. Wait, wait. All right. I was hard baited.
I did that shit like a right of the markers.
Alright go to triangle and skull and you're baiting frontals and then you're rotating
left after the funnel goes off your marks.
After the funnel happens you go, target skynes spinner, look at the arrow, follow skynes
spinner, let's go, it's super easy.
Nice web vortex, this is red first, go left and right red, blue you're gonna go straight
forward. Good, the spell debuffs are out. Soak orbs right now. Soak orbs for the first
two seconds. Okay, Shaq go under and three, two, one, now.
Watch those carabs.
We need to go under and three, two, one, now. Personally, if you have a debuff on
you, Jernak go under and three, two, middle.
Rip those carabs.
Now Jernak go, Jernak go, yep. Listen, three, two, one. Good, now give people
room, three, and I want to do it. Give this boss up. Oh yeah, this is our lowest
You're in the whole thing and on the mouth. It's red and blue. Get on the markers boy lock the fuck in sit up in your chair
Right now this boss is dead. It's your markers. Get your markers down
Make sure you're like actually yeah, yeah
Good damage in this place. Yep
Presby me
Okay, just maybe hell son if you're getting hit in three seconds the opposite mirror
The opposite it's okay. It's okay. This is perfectly fine red just has to move a little half green one. Yeah, be careful
Keep blasting we have six seconds we should be it
Be beat beat beat beat beat beat blast blast blast blast blast nice spike. That's like
I think it's fake.
You think so?
Honl.
We all gave you.
Freak the other boys.
Red, listen, red, you guys are going to go to the wall soon
when it's time.
But you guys are new pairs this space.
Remember, you have your range pairs in the webs.
You're going to go super far, late.
Main webs.
We're baiting at the wall here.
And also, red, you're always going right,
no matter what, if you get firsts.
OK, web vortexes in eight.
Remember blue, give them space.
Probably with your honey.
okay getting stuck now blue is first you're going left and right red is second you're going forward
make sure we get soaps here and watch the quake at the same time
on the break up this watch the quake guys good soap or not soaps three soap orbs
great a blast boss for blue after this blue go wall and red bait funnel red great funnel
Blue wall, blue wall, blue wall.
Uh, there was third bar.
We're gonna follow?
Yep.
Good.
Blue, I think they're a pair as though.
Yeah, blue get kind of spread.
Okay, web vortex right now.
Is blue first?
Blue left and right?
Second.
Red forward, red forward.
And watch spikes.
Watch spikes now and so forth.
Dispel debuffs are in five.
Big boss scout when you can.
Yeah, yeah.
Dispel debuff, that's fine.
Dispel soon.
You're not gonna throw back.
You're ready for the spells, everybody.
Lip is first and three, two, one, now.
Watch the example.
Jernack goes next and three, two, one, now.
That's Hans.
XI was next, Hans is three, two, one, XI.
Jernack, Jernack, Hans is three, two, one, now.
Watch the example.
Watch the example.
Next spell.
Please, the spell is new.
And the spell is back.
Come on, then.
Oh, that's a good one.
Back to final kill, Hans, right?
Yo.
I'm gonna pick that.
It's so bad when it's us, second.
Yeah, it's so it's in the order to have up on it's so cringe because the frontal just fucking snipes
Oh, yeah, red is so far here. Yeah, and then we watch the front. It's like it's like in criminal
When's the frontal it was before it already happened. That's what killed Hans right there
That's like so in the war. It's like in
comes in. Can we get rescued there?
Uh, let's try it.
I'll put my pistol.
I'll put my pistol.
I'll put my pistol.
I'll put my pistol.
I'll put my pistol.
There's a lot of flash.
I feel like the slot book is easy.
Please, please stop.
Alright, let's uh, still really good pulls just...
So how do we solve that though?
How do we solve that though? So you guys get second, you guys need to have like, we need to have the ability to get three out of frontals, could we slow?
Do you need like a recipe for that?
Tony, I'm back.
I mean, if we're closer to the boss we can dodge is here.
The, I said.
We're the only one who's closer.
Yeah, I mean, if they can be closer, that'd be fucking wonderful.
Yeah, I mean, that's really easy to do. Blue can just move closer to that other boss with a new...
Just a little bit, not like much, but a little bit.
Yeah, I mean, mid-range, I think those are a mile away.
It's actually it had the most people where we go here's yeah, we're getting web or text from like here
We can just be like yeah, I mean that's
That's what we were doing on purpose. That's where he front of us from it was crazy. Yeah, we were doing this intentionally
This was we were doing this on purpose
Like you can see they're not even following a new a little bit closer. They're literally doing it on purpose
I think they just need to be outside this blue circle. It's easy. Yeah, this is like too far
I was like a good circle.
How do we keep getting grouped together?
Like I'm on dramatic and we always like a good time.
Just know on the one where blue is going later,
you guys just follow a new bin.
You don't do this and turn around.
You just keep going.
Cool.
Is it better if we turn around and hook and hook
the wall a bit more as well, just so they could
be a different light away from the wall?
Oh, it's a not really matter.
And we're soaking all this.
I think it's fine.
It's a little bit closer, it's all good.
We're closer, so it'll be a little bit easier to dodge the phone.
Well done, Esau.
Oh my god.
I've propped over.
That's gross.
Hey, startup, what's up?
Yo!
Dead terrain?
Oh, shit.
I don't think that's the right way to play the video.
I think it's a wipe.
Makes you say that.
We're all dead.
Oh, that's a good point, I think.
Perfect time to kill the boss.
My girlfriend is awake.
I can river Yeha.
Yeah, I'll hit.
Yeah.
I'll hear it.
I'll kill it.
That hurt you, huh?
Yeah, that's it.
Oh, fuck.
I thought it was, like, a pre-e-off.
I thought it was, like, a pre-e-off.
Can you extend us to 30?
Yeah.
Get up.
Both of them, both of them, fuck.
Free for peace.
We're back after that monster energy.
Listenin', big shout out to them
to them for supporting us and our stream, but of course that allowed us to get a little
bit of insights from our analysts. I had a short talk with Tags. I asked him, hey, what's
the deal? How long are we going? The answer I got back is there is no hard end for now.
So that could mean anything to us.
Yeah, I don't think you want to push it too late tonight because there comes a point
where you're getting tireder at a faster rate
than you're getting better at the fight.
And once you're bowling when that's true,
you're really not accomplishing anything.
But I don't think we're anywhere actually all that close
to that just yet.
We're crossing over the midnight threshold right now.
So we're getting close to what, the 18th hour
being awake maybe?
Well okay, what are the wakeups today?
The start time was like nine for bowls.
So let's say they woke up at eight.
Yeah.
So yeah, they've been up for only 16 hours, right?
Only.
It's not too bad.
You know, you're not...
I think I'm already every time I come here.
You're not starting to decline too much.
And the thing is as well that waking up at nine again tomorrow doesn't actually accomplish that much.
There's maintenance scheduled until ten, so...
It's kind of free time.
I would say you want to go until at least one.
I'd be probably happy with a two as a stop time.
But they psychologically, I think especially they don't like the idea of thinking about
failure and thinking about when to how much failure to endure before they stop.
So right now the party line is we're going till it's dead.
But I think that that is a conversation they will have if they don't kill it in the
next hour or so.
Okay, how much more do we want to do of this?
And it probably depends on the quality of the polls also.
Like if you just chain 10% wipes, they'll be very hard to go through.
go to bed? Yes, the adrenaline will be pumping, but if they hit a stretch around that 1-2AM mark,
where it's just like 5 phase 1s in a row, that might just be the end of it. And they've had
such a good day today, but they know as well from today that this boss is eminently killable
with this reset's worth of gear. So you know if you're going to bed, you're ending
your reset at 6 of 8, and there's a very good chance that Echo and maybe also Method
will end their resets at 7 of 8.
Not a particularly good feeling.
Also sucks to be missing out on the information of a few
polls of Queen Ancerek that you could get in if you killed this boss right now.
But ultimately it wouldn't cost them the race
as long as they were able to keep the morale up.
That is the most vital resource always.
But it would be a great buff to morale
if we could kill this boss and take a look at Ancerek.
It is true, although the value of pulling Ancerek
I think it's a little bit overstated once we're talking about
hours of sleep.
To actually see what you need to know from Ancerac,
you can't just pull the boss a few times, right?
You'd actually have to try and frog the fight and figure out what the pain points are.
And are you realistically going to be doing that if it's past midnight?
I mean that depends on the fight.
You'll certainly be getting an energy buff, but I think it's hard to
it's hard to commit more than say 30 minutes or an hour, so people will be kind of tired, so I don't know.
I think that it's it'll be good. There'll be a lot of information they can get from pulling answer
But it's not like you get the whole fight downloaded. It's probably true that they will learn something at like 50% on answer
It's like oh wow this beck is really good at this part or this beck is really bad at this part
And then they'll have to make a swap out
I think for me
The big idea is
Getting a look on a boss that hasn't been tested yet
Yeah allows you to get a feeling for it and start making a strat even if it's just for phase one
You'll come in there with a strat which allows you to be more efficient once you actually get to a prog it, get into those deep tries.
So while I agree with like the passing hour, the value of it diminishing because you cannot spend that much time on it anymore,
I still think there's a great bit of value in first getting the kill, just having it. That'll be nice.
And also taking a look at Queen Ancer, even if it's just face one, to start figuring something out.
And then you can strategize a bit more with the officer team. Most puts are happening recourse are happening to try and get a
Plan down for phase one and possibly whatever comes after yeah
So I'm answering the info they can get they can get our health. Yep. That's something is definitely something
Yeah, they can see the cadence of the mechanics. Maybe that gives them a feel for like how difficult it'll be
I don't know. Yeah, that'd be and they'll see
what we know already about mythic is there's five frosts maybe that's
misinformation right that's what we've heard yeah so hopefully they've already
thought of a good strat to get through that otherwise they're gonna see the
five frosts come out probably white and then what they can't take like an hour
analyst break and then come back so I'm sure they have a preliminary plan for
like what if this is like heroic except for that and they will come in with
that plan and they'll try and pull it with that and I think probably with
With a few pulls you could probably get two or three minutes into the fight usually right there's some fights like KJ or Razagath where
The first 30 seconds show you like oh, you're really dead. You got to figure out a lot to make this happen
But I don't I don't know if answer. I will be one of those
All right, we're making it now into our second intermission here the boss at 45
percent HP
Into intermission to
How is this stacking up with the previous good pulls?
I think this might be a little ahead of target, I think earlier they were kind of like 46-47,
so you know every little bit counts this does carry over into the third phase.
We're seeing two battle reses on this pull as well, which is always good.
Yeah, this is great, sometimes they have a little collision during this dance.
Unfortunately, there are a few ways you can die on this fight that kill you forever,
so even those two battle reses would not be useful against those deaths, but they
They have made it out of the intermission.
We're now entering phase three.
This is the progression phase of the fight.
Although they have made it past these first set of mechanics.
And actually all the way to the enrage before.
What's going to happen is dragging the boss
on top of each other for some optimal cleave.
And now we're going to get gripped under the boss
and have to deal with a charge from a noob.
Got the red group over there against the wall.
They're kind of hard to see.
I think they get gripped first, leave some orbs, then blue follows, then blue has to clear the orbs from inside of the circle, around the tall boss.
There comes the colon.
Breaking their webs.
Next step is the charge.
You can see those red orbs back there, they're trying to figure out a way to get in there.
No collisions.
Yep.
With the blue Siri.
All of those look like they have been soaked now.
The, uh, game spinner teleports away, and a noob gets entangled.
Taking extra damage now as they try and lower this boss HP before that enrage comes in in a couple of minutes here.
Next order of business is going to be a Dems.
A little chill.
We're going to be getting gripped into the boss, but this isn't overlapping with any super nasty mechanic.
And then we're going to have dispels that will need to be done.
First we need to get over and make sure we get all these red moats, but you've got 15 seconds for each of these.
Not an awful lot of time.
But not too scary.
They're doing a great job, that's all.
Okay, the spells are now out.
The spell number one on one of our wizards
gets the spell done to the boss.
Spell number two on a death knight.
And...
Don't slow her there.
Alright, we have a little bit of time.
We need you three, four, and five with some swiftness here.
There's three.
Here comes four.
Managed to... Wow!
That was incredible.
They were very, very close to wiping there.
A lot of great damage happening here as well.
from that swarm, but they are very good at avoiding that raid damage turning into a death.
And we've had some massive damage onto this game spinner during that damage amp as well.
Now here comes the big difficult part of the fight. We're gonna have to simultaneously
manage dispels and a boss charge. If we can do this right, our reward is going to be damage
amps on both bosses lining up with a lust. Here comes that first pull on our purple
marked players. Yps, does go down. One battle res remains here.
Fortunately, it looks like we are okay with the rises coming out our dispels are available now
We need to quickly get two and three and one to spelled under the boss before it teleports ideally
Or we can't see the webs. They should be in the middle of the room. Oh, they got him
That they're getting here. This is where that blotlust is coming in right now with every player alive
This is probably the first time that we are getting a stack that is
Disgust with everyone in the party being alive. They're still running for a couple more sacks
Yeah, damn it. As they are
Squeezed down once more
Everything out of that boss. We're in a new best at least but can they go all the way?
7% out of the boss now
You're still going 6% we're in the single ditches
How much further can they go? 5 seconds until that end rate coming in
Then the tanks are gonna be suffering starting now
Now, 3% to go. They need to kill it within the next 15 seconds.
2% Stips can live for so so long on this boss.
1% to down this boss. The AOE is going to be starting soon, but they don't even get there.
They kill this boss!
Incredible, that is so huge as well. It has just passed midnight too, so there is plenty of time to see some Queen answer right now, perhaps.
And this is huge as well. This fills the vault. This is everything we needed.
170 balls! And Silkencourt finally goes down. What an incredible ball.
Yeah, that was... Yeah, they needed that so bad.
I'm still shaking.
Yeah, I'm really afraid as well.
This is so...
Woohoo!
Oh my God.
Wow, that was... That was perfect.
I mean, their damage was insane.
How much time do they have to the swarm?
They have only a fraction of seconds.
Five seconds.
Yeah.
Okay, that 5% health nerf came in clutch.
Yeah, that was absolutely needed to kill this boss.
Was there any good loot, I wonder?
I see a web.
A spy master's web justly rewarded for their efforts this week.
Liquid will be getting one of those trinkets.
as the high-fives delivered some sort of scarab yeah that tank trinket actually
has been getting used okay it was uh it wasn't always super useful but it got
buffed this week so to anyone that's just tuning in we'll be going for that
replay very soon wow we have everything sorted also quick mention we do have a
giveaway that'll be starting soon so hopefully you all have your coin base
accounts ready to participate there but yeah we'll get here as soon as everything is ready
for that to all of the new faces joining right now. Liquid just downed the silken court first
guilt in the world. There's our loot. Spymasters web, the Swarmlord's authority to to trinkets
this boss a mystic tier piece and of course some I think that's male armor
the scatter shell or shatter shell grieves
we got any turks on any of these any avoidance maybe a little bit of leech
perchance or indestructible Tedels is this tertiary is Tedels a poor man
can't afford his repairs he just he he he does die a lot so the
No, okay, okay, I
See look at the smiles on their face. Yeah, of course the relief in the air that they was getting a little
There was some doom some doomering happening from from some unnamed party max calling out
They're gonna be going until 4 a.m. I think I die that out it died at that definitely is a feeling I think
Yeah, credible
I've been around too many of these races seeing it go both ways, this is the much preferred outcome.
There was a period of a couple of years that was characterized by every single race,
getting so close, and then a heartbreak in the middle of the night, you know.
Yeah, I'm going to sleep good tonight.
Yeah, absolutely. This is 100% what they needed.
171 polls on the Silken Court.
Everybody surrounding THD there.
Yeah.
That's Kalamazoo, no?
It's Kalamazoo.
Yeah, I thought he was going to bed.
I thought he was as well, but he hadn't left the building just yet when this kill came in.
Oh, wow.
Incredible, seven out of eight.
I believe they killed it despite Kalamazoo being here.
Yeah.
That is, that has got to feel so good.
Yeah.
And they are getting back into their chairs now.
That was really close to the spell on THD too, like during that fight.
Yes.
There was a section where there were two dispells that needed to happen
and they were both less than a second they were on them
before the boss actually did manage to get dispelled on too.
So that pull was going to be very, very close.
That pull almost ended in disaster in a few different ways.
We're so happy that it's down.
Kalamazhi is still here.
Yeah, I can hear you.
I don't know if production can hear you, but yeah.
We cannot apparently.
So do you want my headset?
Still tell us.
Hi.
Oh, you're okay. Yeah, well, we'll figure it out on our end. No worries, THD for that last
Dispel. Dispel himself with his imp on second before it went off. That's that's a warlock
tech point one seconds before the before it would have wiped them. Oh my not even close.
That was insane. I will say what an amazing feed 14 liquid to get this one down before
the night is even remotely over they have so much time now to take a look at that last boss for the
first time. Not some info, get some intel, but of course as per usual when there's a world first
being downed by Team Liquid we do have a giveaway that should be starting very soon our coin base
giveaway hashtag coin base in chat to win one of the signed Team Liquid jerseys from the guild
very very cool I think giveaway that we're doing here the Raiders all signed
them already so we will be giving them away you need a coinbase account to
participate but I believe that's it hashtag coinbase in twitch chat to take
part and I can see chat racing so I'm sure that one is working out here yeah
the only thing that feels better than a world first kill is a last pull of
the night kill, which we were in that territory.
Yeah.
It's kind of like how your keys were always in the last place you look, right?
Like once you get them, you're not going to need it to keep looking, right?
Yeah, true.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think they would have kept going a little while longer, but it is very, very good that
we got it here.
This is tremendously big board team liquid.
It's so good that we were able to kill it today.
I thought going into the day that this boss was not going to die, but it turns
out that they were able to take it from 60% down to zero in a day of pull.
What an amazing progress they have made, but of course, for everybody that has been tuning in just now, we won't leave you waiting any longer.
Here's our Coinbase World First poll with Teamcoms.
Windrush totem. Totemic recall.
Okay, intermission now on triangle and skull.
Good.
Go left.
Remember, right before this next one, you just go as left as possible.
Wait, it's a soak here and go left, left, left, left, left, left, left, left, left, right.
Good.
We will be stopping damage sometime soon, but you're all good.
You guys will be moving right again soon.
Move right.
You can start chilling on damage.
Make sure you're not getting extra stacks.
Stop on the boss completely stop on the boss
Good finish soaking orbs. We're starting in three two go go go go go
full dam full dam and soak red orbs
One more red orb nice big nice frontal on blue here
This is web vortex spots
Fuck is happening in two seconds
Blue is first you're going left and right red is second. You're going forward
disability buster soon should we get some orb soaks first though let's get a few
orb soaks back make your way under Shaq soaks boomie in three two one now
party in three two one exile in three two one and thd giga delayed three you
just do it when you know it's right walk his ass up it and then we're gonna do a
Go and triangle baiting frontals, and then you're moving on to the X and square marker and watching the teleport
Okay, and look at the teleport go
Web or text. This is red first. You're going left and right red left and right red and you're going forward blue
So go orbs here. Don't get to don't get three stacks getting just what the above soon listen to disability buff calls
Get the board under the boss first. Hey Atlas is going in three two one now
Now, exile three, two, one, now.
Bang, saying you're the first in the middle in three, two, one, now.
DHD, you're second in the middle, three, two, one, now.
Boop, you're the last one.
And Seri, you know how to do it.
Everyone else get away from him.
That was fucking sketchy.
Do that again.
Do not do that again.
It's a little bit too late to kind of tell us.
That was literally point one.
I just felt the back of my head was starting to do it.
Markers.
Go to your markers now. Get across from each other.
Make sure you guys are centered. The boss is off-center here. Make sure you're on the blue marker.
Blue marker. Move to the marker. Relatively spread. Yeah, a little loose spread now.
Okay, you have five seconds. So, Gorbs, you're chilling.
Are they a little silent?
Yeah, just mirror them. Mirror the people who are doing the hard thing.
Loose spread. Loose spread. They're spawning now.
Okay, wait. We have seven seconds for Gorbs. We're fine.
We have three seconds, two, one, now, nice, and blast, beating it, good. Lock the fuck in.
Boss is going over there, red is against the wall here, you'll be beating a frontal off the wall first, red you're going right this whole phase no matter what.
And remember blue, when we do the after the damage amp, remember to like fall all the way into the boss.
This is it.
They bait off of the wall range to right now red. We're getting a web vortex in five seconds
Red you're always going right or forward only those two. How do you a web vortex now?
Hey, this is blue first. You're going left and right blue red. You're going straight forward. You keep your webs
Good dodge the purple and then we're just soaking orbs guys. That's it
Watch series a roadblock
I just console. Yeah, just resin get orbs guys get orbs and get into blast boss three two one blast watch them
Let's go wall the wall the wall bait on red bait on red. Yep. Yep. Yeah, baby
Okay, they're walks. We're okay. Just make your way over there guys. They're gonna be down. We're doing me
Make sure you know where the boss is we're going left blue. We're going left follow a new blue follow a noob
We're vortex now blue is first blue go left and right
Good red you're going forward red. You're going forward
forward make sure you soak those orbs here good and then watch the frontal watch
the front what's your health this one you can Scott good and we're even getting
to spellbibus here good so fired up three two one now so what's my two
red ops atlas three ready to soak them over there let them go let them go
atlas on the middle three two one now exile in the middle three two one now
Splat, 3, 2, 1 now, and T.S.P. Nice.
Health pump.
Health pump, Nick.
Excellent.
We're good, we're good.
Watch the teleport here.
Good, yep. We're watching the teleport and then we're heading there and red is going to the wall.
We have speed, I'm so slow.
Red goes to the wall.
Yeah, but Max is fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Web war takes here, getting your range pairs now.
Ranged pairs now. Listen. Okay, blue is first. Go left and right. Good. Red you're
gonna go forward. Do you not snap? It's fine. We're fine. Yep, Rezius. Rezius.
Good. So, so, orbs now. Listen, heard of spells. Lip is after the thing. Lip three, two, one, now.
Renako three, two, one, now. What? Yeah, go all the way. Go all the way.
lost now. It's fine, it's fine, it's fine. Sang is in 321 now. PhD in 321 now. Goop in 321 now.
Swap targets in both. Swap targets with Skynespinner. Swap targets with Skynespinner.
We can Res Yps in 15, right?
Yeah.
Keep going.
That's where you're at, son.
Keep Scott alive.
Res Yps in 2 seconds.
I can't.
How long do we have?
Forever.
Keep Scott alive.
How long do we have until the cast?
You ready for immunities you ready for my call?
Hot hot hot hot hot someone's hot you ready for immunity you ready you ready you ready
Let's fucking go three guys
And we're back here with our
boss
Progress coinbase leader board is
ready and as you can see Team Liquid gapping the rest the boys were really
excited about that win there I love those nerd screens absolutely you can
see a stick feeling one boss ahead now back on methods two bosses ahead of the
rest of the field great way to end the reset all but Queen and Sirac killed
here in the very first week of the raid well played by Team Liquid now we
We expected this to be a shorter tier, first tier of the expansion.
Also with a heroic week, they spend less time doing chores leading into it.
But this is looking like a real, a full tier.
Absolutely.
Going into the second reset.
Who knows how long Queen Anne's track will take, but you know, Tuesday or Wednesday,
Thursday.
We're on about boss progress.
Of course now also showing the Silicon Court that we arrived at that end boss.
Like you guys are saying, reset right outside the door.
Yeah, that weekly reset gonna be coming up.
Giving us an extra set of boxes that now contain silk and court loot.
Really tremendous power there.
One thing they did as well, if we look at our boss web,
they made a lot of decisions on the first few bosses,
assuming that they would be getting 7 out of 8 bosses dead in the first week.
Decisions like sitting THD lock on Olgrax the Devourer,
Thinking, okay, we're gonna have a warlock in on every fight that matters. Let's set him on this one, then we can get his boxes
Yeah, and then we can get other characters two boxes or four something like that
And that would have all gone horribly wrong if Silkencourt hadn't died in the way that it just did
Very big for Team Liquid to secure that kill before they went to bed today and the servers reset
Yeah, you brought up Silkencourt loot in the box great trinket out there the spymasters web
Who got it? I don't know who got it.
Yeah, they got one off the actual boss kill itself, but also now it's populating their vaults
so any of their casters could see one in next week's great vault.
A lot of power in that.
He fired up, who gets it?
Here's a look at those damage meters from the end of the fight as well.
I mean, Impact had hot hands during that try.
You could see it right at the beginning.
He was just above everyone else by a far margin.
THD in second place though. Not a place that any of these Raiders usually like to be, but for THD
I think he can have some solace in knowing that his .1 second from disaster imp disbell
saved this bowl and earned that world first for sure. Yeah, take that screenshot for all the
shamans in your life. It's not often you see a shaman top EPSing on a big first kid. That's
That's true! That's on a very rare live-in scene.
Last time might have been in fair to Margot.
Yeah, it's been a while.
Not perhaps.
Shaman's coming up on top. Who would have thought? Definitely not me.
What a great tier we've been having with so many different facts.
Just showing up and showing off throughout these boss kills. Amazing.
Yeah, I'm curious if Queen Answer X is also going to have a switch up in the comp.
You know possibly different than these other bosses because yeah, I'm loving the spec diversity this time around
I've also been really enjoying it
We've seen sort of some things be really good at some fights and then just not use it all in the next fight
Right like if you think about us jumping from Brute twister to Kai Vezza to silk and court
We saw frosty case being the best back in the game to not being used at all
To having two of them being used on silicon core but being middle of the pack on the damage meters, right?
We saw those Beastmaster hunters come in and look really good on Kai Vezza and then we saw no hunter
what so ever used on Silicon Court. So incredible kind of different usage of these different specs.
Basically every spec in the game now has been used by at least one of our top three guilds
at some point during Race The World First progression this tier, which has almost never
been true before. Yeah, it's a rear sight to see hopefully we can get that going forward
in the next couple of right tiers. But this one is not over by far yet. I keep seeing a lot of
question in chat. We've been talking so many times about this. Is there going to be a reset
where they re-clear? I assure you, I would buzz my hair off if they do not re-clear tomorrow.
That's how secure I am in that decision. Definitely not happening. They will go back. They will
re-clear all of these bosses. They will kill them again. Then they will be back at
Queen and Sirac for that variant. Yeah, you can clip it. I don't, it's, guys, you don't
understand how much value there is in these reclears.
Yeah, there's no way you'd ever extend this lockout, right? You're coming back.
Kyveza is going to be sketchy to re-kill, but they're going to have an extra
reset worth of gear by the time they try and do that. It can take a couple
of hours. There is no chance those couple of hours are more valuable than
the gear would be. Yeah, a lot of time math done for progression and sleep,
management like so much of this because it's more of a marathon on a sprint is
how you manage your time and like tears can be thrown by spending too little
time in splits when you should have spent more or by extending a lockout when
you should have recleared it has happened before I'm not gonna name any
here taxes and chat trolling but we're extending though it has happened at
least once famously yeah it will slip and hit the extend button we've all
been there. Well, that's been it from us today. We still have the after dark happening
with both of you. What's the plan for tonight? Any leakers? Going over this month in WoW.
That's a great one. But there's some surprises. Stay tuned. I heard we might even be potentially
possibly no promises propping a max interview after that. So we'll see whether or not
that comes true. Of course, they're currently looking at Ansarac, but a huge shout out
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This has been the 7 out of 8 kill on Neurobar Palace, and we're going to be back later on.
How about this to celebrate our spring championship?
I celebrated by getting a new Honda Civic Hybrid with style, power and fuel efficiency.
It's an excellent awesome. Get in.
Why didn't I think of this?
How do you really try to play it?
Hi, my name's Atlas.
I play that night for the Great Guild.
Some of the features of the Alienware ProLineMouse
that I really enjoyed, it's extremely lightweight,
it glides effortlessly across the mouse pad.
The clicks feel very responsive and give you feedback.
I love how this mouse feels.
While players inherently mash their keyboards like crazy,
so it's good to have reliable keyboard
that is responsive and easy to have clicks on the keys.
Can I keep it?
Hi, I'm Exile and I play Rogue and Liquid Guild.
Personally, my favorite feature about the ProLineMouse
is that it feels light as a feather, it's really smooth and I have no questions on whether
or not I'll be able to use it for a very extended period of time.
The customizability of the Alienware keyboard is a great feature to have as you're able
to change the lighting whenever you want and even change your screen switches.
Hi, I am Bubba Dubb.
I am an analyst slash officer in LiquidGill.
The main feature that I really like about the mouse is the side buttons.
They give you direct feedback on whether you pressed it or not.
The weight and the shape of this mouse are perfect for me.
This keyboard is definitely something that I would use at home for general use and for
gaming.
The way that the keyboard feels to me, I get instantaneous feedback on what button I press
and how I press it.
Hi, my name is Max and I'm the raid leader of Liquid Guild.
Alienware Pro Mouse is actually great.
It's wireless.
It's super easy to deal with.
It has great skates, so it actually will glide really well.
You can use it all day and you don't get sore at all.
So the Alienware Pro Line keyboard is actually great for a while.
If you want smaller desk space taken up by your keyboard, you can also connect
to three different devices through Bluetooth,
and just overall it has a great feel.
This might be the best keyboard I've ever used.
What is this?
Where's my secret lab?
This is your chair.
That's not my chair.
It's in my contract, man.
I only sit in secret lab chairs.
Look, I'm gonna have permanent back damage because of this.
What's going on with them?
He ever got a secret lab?
Mm.
Look at that chair.
Look at my back.
Look at my back.
The box is on hold.
Diva.
Mm.
I use secret labs.
This is some dog.
You don't want to get into that.
Ever since Max went into his contract,
he's been weirdly obsessed with secret lab chairs.
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
He does everything, you know, everything.
Like, I get it.
They're great chairs.
But it's just like a bit much.
I guess he had it put in his contract
to always be sitting in a secret lab chair.
I mean, who does that?
When did that happen?
Good secret lab.
Look, it's not about the design or the comfort.
It's the personalized ergonomics, right?
Why else would it be in my contract?
I want it wherever I'm at.
I feel like people here just don't get it, you know?
For sure.
Like it's like when you're used to sushi
and then you go back to Cantuna.
You just don't want that, right?
No one wants that.
That's crazy.
I feel like we should be focusing more on prepping
for the actual race than like what chairs we sit in.
I mean like, how comfortable can they really be?
I kind of get it.
Let's move my two to a three and my five to a seven.
I'm gonna take a quick dinner around then.
Actually, you know what?
Instead of the three, maybe move that to a one.
That way I don't have to come into the office
until way later, hopefully.
Hey.
Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
Look, it is what it is.
I'm a nice guy, but Secret Lab,
that's the only chair this butt sits in.
There's either a Secret Lab there, or I'm not going.
All right, that's a wrap everybody.
Thank you, have a good night.
There's my Secret Lab.
I'm Torrin.
Torin, not Ratnos.
And I'm a troll.
And tonight, we're gonna be teaching you
about some of the history of World of Warcraft.
What year would you like to hear about first?
Is it 2005?
That's right, 2005.
I'm gonna go all the way back
to when Zol'Gorub was put into the game.
Oh, wow.
Yes, where my people are from.
Are you from Zolgorub?
No, I'm from Moolgor.
Moolgor?
That's right.
Very far from Zolgorub.
Almost as far as you can get from Zolgorub.
Wow.
The world's that big?
It's very big.
And it's unknown whether it's flat or spherical.
There's conflicting evidence.
So you have to think for yourself.
Do your own research.
That's right.
All right, Zolgorub.
I also believe Arathi Basin was added to the game.
Have you heard of Arathi Basin?
I have.
I always go to stables, and then I AFK there,
and a rogue captures the base on me.
This looks like when the corrupted blood hit the world,
and we all had to stay inside.
That's right.
But what we learned in this game
is that there are sometimes people who don't follow
those rules and will spread all the disease to everybody
else.
But luckily, that would never happen in the real world.
No, that's why we get to practice in our world.
Right.
Let's jump forward two whole years to 2007, when Voice Chat was added to the game.
That's right.
We all use Blizzard in-game Voice Chat all the time.
In fact, that's what the Liquid Raiders used on their world first silken court kill we
just saw.
That's right, Dratnos.
Everybody loves the Voice Chat.
I patched 2.2, you can see them saying oh no's, and some 2007 meme.
Yeah, and what's the longer doing there in 2007? We'll never know.
Actually, one time Discord went down and I was using Blizzard in-game boys in a panic
trying to get everybody in my key to go into in-game boys.
Didn't work, we depleted that key.
I don't know if I've ever tried voice chat, but if you guys want to at home
just hop in there with some people, there's very friendly people in Azeroth.
Everybody in Azeroth is always very friendly.
Yeah, and they'll teach you everything you need to know.
Okay, another two whole years into 2009.
This is when faction changes were added.
Do you guys know what a faction is?
No, I took that out of the game recently.
It's all very sad, except if you try
and do a heroic dungeon,
you all need to still be the same faction.
But other than that,
they took that out of the game recently.
That's too bad.
I believe also a Nixia's lair
re update was added.
Oh wow. Yeah that was just an add-on to it.
No I remember doing that for like 252 gear
back in Wrath. You even remember the item level. That's right
it was big. Yeah big gear, big change, faction change.
You know for a long time the Horton Alliance they had to stay
back. But now you could cross over
But you had to pay some money to do so.
Yes.
We were all very happy and celebrated just like that when this was added.
That's right.
Yeah, sometimes you're a troll, but you want to be a human, and this allowed that.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Yes.
Yes.
Look at my...
Look at my lips moving.
Isn't that incredible?
Look at my little teeth.
Look at my lips move my arms. I'm gonna wave my arms around now. Look at look at me go. I'm
I was only able to wave one of my arms, but you could do two that's really good
That's your strong arm where your shield goes. That's right
I injured the other one fighting a Nixia when it was reworked in 2009
What happened that's you yeah, I sorry
Are you okay?
I'm fine. This happens from time to time
Okay, well, let's jump way further to
2011 where something
making this segment the World of Warcraft magazine
Also didn't know that was real
Wow, we're all learning something today. Yeah, I think it lasted about five issues and
They refunded everybody who ordered it. Whoa. Wow. Yeah, it came with a
Probably was quite worth it then huh? Yeah, those might be kind of rare. Huh much like the trading card game
I remember the wow trading card game fun fact they used a lot of that art again in Hearthstone
Yeah, very smart. Yeah, I wonder if us check your parents basement children
Maybe there's a wow magazine hiding somewhere and you can get some resell that
Yeah, hey now on to 2012 this is when we went to a far-off land in the mist
Wow miss a pandaria came out and we found the monks and the pandarins
Do you remember when we had that launcher as well, the one up in the top, right?
Yeah, that triggers some memories for me.
It's been so long.
Yeah, I miss, well, looking back at the launchers, it does have nostalgia.
Do you remember when we had to get multiple disks of each WoW expansion and take hours
to install it all?
Yeah, now you can just click a button and play when the game's not ready, but
back then, Dranos is right.
Multiple, what were called compact disks.
Yeah, that's incredible.
A lot of computers these days don't even have a way to use those anymore.
No.
And you would take these circles and slide them into the computer physically.
It wasn't digital.
I know.
Don't be scared kids.
That was, it was, it was pretty wild back then.
But back then also you would get maintenance on Tuesdays that lasted a really long time.
But luckily we're not going to get that tomorrow.
Right Blizzard?
And everybody?
It's been a long time since 2012 with Mr. Pandaria,
regarded as one of the best expansions of all time.
I wonder how it holds up now,
but in memory, very good time, very good raids.
It also included in 2013, the Timeless Isle came out.
That was a big in this month.
I remember frog farming and the Timeless Isle,
and then it came back in mop remix,
but Blizzard didn't like frog farming anymore,
so they took it away.
Yeah, let's save the frogs, Blizzard said.
You can see here, there's the Siege of Orgrimmar loading
screen, which also came out in 2013 with this patch 5.4.
Yeah, I've heard.
And I might be making things up.
But I heard that they had so much health on Garrosh
that part of the reason they needed to do
multiple phases on that fight was that otherwise
it would have more health than an enemy could have.
Yes, I believe that's a good stat.
I forgot about that.
Garrosh also healed, I think.
Yeah, he healed up to full.
So you killed his health bar multiple times in that fight.
And then going into WAD, they did a stat squish, right?
The first one, was it?
Yeah, yeah, I guess so with WAD.
Or health number squish, or I don't know, something.
Yeah, the rage.
There's no way to know.
It was so long ago, and the archives are all,
it's all been lost.
And we don't know what happened back then anymore.
Ooh, that's a good idea to ask Blizzard about,
like, hidden lore.
Right.
It's like so far back that they'll just
spill the secrets.
but yes, the numbers were getting crazy
and you'd get very laggy in the raids.
Everybody had lots of utility.
And it's kind of like today,
where there was a lot of complexity amongst all the specs
and they've kind of head in that direction.
Very happy to see it,
because Moth again was everybody loved Moth.
And then we enter the Dark Ages.
In 2016, some light was shed.
Emerald Nightmare came out, Legion.
Very beloved expansion,
but it started with this Emerald Nightmare
in September. I don't know what the blue screen is. It's scaring me a bit, but
Ameld Nightmare, regarded as the easiest raid of all time. Yeah. I don't think we'll
ever seize anything like it again. It was it was incredible. We had so much gear
from Mythic Plus that had just come out of that expansion as well. Do you
remember spending a month in Maw of Souls plus four, three chests in that
getting hundreds of artifact power, it was a crazy time to be alive. Also getting your legendary and
wasn't your best legendary so you deleted your character and made a new one. That was really
exciting and fun. Cephas's secret, that was a good effect. Some good ideas around this time but
some maybe not fully fleshed out implementation Emerald Nightmare. Yeah. But we won't end on
Nightmare because it was late at night and we don't want any of those thoughts in your minds
Don't think that you can have a bad dream right now. Don't even think about it. We'll move on to 2018
Old Deer now. This is where someone may want to extend their lockout. No
No, don't extend your lockout
And we're almost killing a hoon and we'll give Vantus rooms next week and a vaults. Are you sure we shouldn't extend?
I'm sure you shouldn't extend. No
No, don't do it.
First to the moon, first to Gahoon.
It has to happen.
I know, but don't do it, kids.
Don't extend your lockout.
If you're going for world first, always re-clear.
Yes.
The more you know.
Yes, oldie.
It was the first pier that limit, who has now morphed into liquid, competed pretty
hard core for world-first, Gal world-second, almost world-first, it was very close, there
was an extension error which will never happen again. Never again. Never kids, never extend,
even if Gahoon is calling for it. Never extend. Alright kids, I hope you learned something
about what happened in the month of September in the world of Warcraft. Thanks for joining
me tonight, chat mess. Thank you for having me, cams. It's been very fun to move my mouth
in a deliberate fashion that lines up with the sounds I'm making. What about your arms?
I can move them both anytime I want to. Wow. Yes. And I can move my arms as well. I'm
I'm very excited that Silicon Court has gone down.
B2.
OK, well thank you for joining me.
And thank you, Seeker Lab, for these wonderful chairs.
And also, grab your phones, kids, because you're
going to want to buy some stuff on your parents' phones.
You might want to get Coinbase.
Order some Monster Energy.
An Alienware PC.
Go visit Raider I.O. Wowhead Warcraft Logs.
and tune in to Dungeon Dojo to get more info on the race.
You might even want to donate to a charity.
You can go to TL.gg slash RWF dash donate
where we're raising money for animals.
Don't you want the animals to live?
That's right.
Help them, yes.
Do it for Simba.
And also maybe you can adopt
some sort of touring moose thing.
Yes.
Me, you could adopt me, maybe.
Okay, children, have a good night,
and remember, don't think about nightmares.
Don't ever extend your lockout.
Oh!
Oh!
I'm here with Boomi for a secret lab hot seat interview.
Yeah?
How's it going?
Feeling amazing.
All right, first tier, how are we feeling?
I'm feeling great, I'm very excited.
Okay, nervous for the upcoming tier at all.
Nah, I don't really get nervous.
I've been doing this for a really long time.
It's true, you have competitive experience
in other esports, right?
Yep, I played Rahala for eight years competitively.
And you're done with that?
You're a wild gamer now?
Yeah, I doubled a bit earlier this year.
I played one tournament, but I've highly doubted
I'll go back now.
Any boss in particular you're looking forward to?
I'm really hyped for Brute Twister.
I think Brute Twister is just gonna be really fun.
there's a bunch of adds all the time doing infinite damage.
It's gonna be nice.
In terms of tuning, how do you feel like this raid
is gonna be compared to last year's?
I think it's gonna be similar to last year
where it's like the first few bosses are pretty easy,
like get steamrolled and then the last couple
are like pretty insane.
I think maybe like numerically they're not too hard
but mechanically they're pretty hard,
especially Silkencourt is, I mean, Silkencourt is wild.
But yeah, I think it's gonna be very similar to the last year.
And what classes are you playing this year?
I'm Windwalker and Warrior right now.
How do you feel about the state of them right now?
Warrior is obviously extremely good.
It's getting nerfed on the reset.
And Windwalker is also getting nerfed,
but I think Windwalker is in like an okay state.
Like maybe it gets played, maybe it doesn't get played.
Warrior is definitely gonna be played though.
It's very strong right now.
When you're raiding, what is open on your other monitor?
Nothing.
Nothing open on the other monitor.
Just straight up.
Just desktop.
Desktop, yep.
It's kind of weird.
No distractions.
Who on the guild has the worst posture?
Worse posture.
When they're sitting.
Rivens easily.
Rivens is absolutely wild.
You want to describe it?
Well, he's got the mis-going,
where he gets the foot up on the chair,
and a little hunch forward.
OK.
Who is the best?
Best fall.
I don't know if I can give you best.
I haven't really noticed any great posture.
Dazer is to my right, and he's got good posture.
When you're sitting in your secret lab chair,
where is the angle of the backrest?
It's like slightly leaned back, not too leaned back,
but a little slight angle.
Thoughts on the secret lab chair so far?
Secret lab, very, very comfortable.
The chair has been nice, extremely nice.
Yeah, I mean, I sat in it 10 hours yesterday,
and I didn't feel any pain.
It was very nice.
All right, well, I'm gonna let you get back
to your secret lab chair.
All right, thank you.
I think you heard a stopping bite.
What is this?
Where's my secret lab?
This is your chair.
That's not my chair.
It's in my contract, man.
I only sit in secret lab chairs.
Look, I'm gonna have permanent back pain
if it's because of this.
What's going on with them?
He ever got his secret lab.
Mm.
Look at my ass, little.
Look at my ass.
You?
My ass is on the floor, diva.
Are you secret labs?
This is some dog.
What the f**k is going on in the f**king meeting today?
Okay.
Ever since Max ran into his contract, he's been, like, weirdly obsessed with secret lab
chairs.
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
He does everything, though.
Like, everything.
Like, I get it.
They're great chairs.
But it's just, like, a bit much.
I guess he had it put in his contract to always be sitting in a secret lab chair.
I mean, who does that?
When did that happen?
Good secret lab.
Look, it's not about the design or the comfort, it's the personalized ergonomics, right?
Why else would it be in my contract? I want it wherever I'm at.
I feel like people here just don't get it, you know?
For sure.
Like, it's like when you're used to sushi and then you go back to cantuna.
You just don't want that, right? No one wants that.
That's crazy.
I feel like we should be focusing more on prepping for the actual race than, like, what chairs we sit in.
I mean, like, how comfortable can they really be? I kind of get it.
Let's move my two to a three and my five to a seven.
I'm gonna take a quick dinner around then.
Actually, you know what?
Instead of the three, maybe move that to a one.
That way I don't have to come into the office
until way later, hopefully.
Hey.
Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
Look, it is what it is.
I'm a nice guy, but Secret Lab,
that's the only chair this butt sits in.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
There's either a Secret Lab there or I'm not going.
All right, that's a wrap everybody.
Hey, thank you, have a good night.
There's my secret lab.
You wanna see something really cool?
Oh, look, we can go anywhere we want.
Hey, that's what I get.
Like what?
Oh, that?
You guys realize they're giving us
a bunch of those for the race, right?
And we'll?
Yeah, that's the new Alienware 2725QF4K
Dual Resolution Gaming Monitor.
No longer have to choose between a high resolution
or a super high refresh rate.
It's two monitors and one.
It's like killing two birds with one stone.
Yeah, my bad.
To the big eSports tournament with your friends, you've got to be ready for, well, everything.
Sign up for Team Liquid My Blue and you'll be on your way.
Venture to the peaks of eSports where points and rewards await you.
Do battle with your rivals and crush them.
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of items free prizes joint gg slash my blue and good morning welcome to rise
and raid with my blue my name is I am Jack and I was about to say it's a
sunny morning in Los Angeles but it's raining outside it's very drab and
drizzly view that's right I love it just feel like the moisture in the air yeah
it's like rejuvenating me I'm so used to more humid climate and everything to I
know we I brought the Midwestern weather with me sorry about that thank
We needed it.
We do need it.
Yeah, I'd wash the streets clean.
It's always, always nice.
It's nice to have a good start as well to the day.
Washing everything clean, starting new, and getting an amazing food buff to start the journey.
So true.
Love the food buff.
The Chef Heidi special.
Getting that e-sports nutrition in.
We can take a look at the menu of the day.
Breakfast sammies.
Breakfast potatoes, overnight oats, and fresh fruit is on the menu for this morning, Jack.
We'd love to see it.
to see it. We also have some sausage as well with a little bonus extra. I just checked on
before we got on to the broadcast and everything. I believe it's egg, cheese and ham for the
breakfast sandwiches. Oh my gosh. And for lunch we've got that barbecue pork sandwiches.
Oh. Love to be able to see it. And buffalo chicken. So it's a nice option for everybody
depending on what they like. We'll have some cattle chips and fruit and greens.
Ooh. And then for dinner we'll have a pizza night. Whoa. Two exclamation points.
Let's go!
That's exciting.
The rumor has it there might be some wings as well for Kalamazie.
Oh true!
You know last time we had a pizza night there were also wings.
There was like a bucket.
A breadsticks.
Yeah it was a bucket.
It was just like a bucket.
Just like yay high.
Just filled with wings.
Yeah.
I didn't have any of them did you?
No.
I think Kalamazie just had his look in his eyes and I just like stepped out of his
way.
It's over.
Yeah.
The hunger.
Yeah.
I get it.
Gotta feed the Florida man.
Oh yeah.
That you do.
getting to all of the raid progression
that we've seen thus far,
and we're not even onto the,
well, we just got to the last,
the penultimate boss, I should be saying,
the second to last, and we're so in court.
It doesn't feel like we have.
And it feels like it's been a...
The last one.
Yeah, it feels like we're almost at the last boss.
It feels like it's been a very long journey,
and through it, it requires
some absolute cutting edge precision,
and that is something that our Honda MVP of the day
has exhibited 10 times over.
Absolutely, and that man is Scott for the Honda MVP of the day.
He in particular had a tough nut top, I mean he handled it very gracefully, but had to employ
an interesting mechanic, Jack, where we were sacrificing him towards the final bit of that
fight.
That's right, he would not quit throughout this encounter as the strategy involves
sacrificing your tank three different times in the encounter and utilizing either
of the Ancestral Protection Totem from the Resto Shaman to get a free battle res, or just
taking advantage of THD's Soul Stone to resurrect onto the encounter.
Repeatedly getting resed and having the DPS taunt off using some of those died by the
sword mechanics so they don't die to any melee strikes, staying alive just long enough
to guarantee the world's first kill.
And baking some beans in the process.
That he is.
That he is.
been a mainstay in the guilds for quite a long time.
Notably, he was soloing the last bit of Anduin
in the Soppelecore raid.
Yep.
Bruce and the World First kill, and that raid as well.
And when it comes to these impossible jobs,
we even mentioned how Brewmaster felt
like it was the stronger of the tanks
when it came to just surviving.
They bring it onto a bear, and they're
figuring out a way to keep him alive and get that boss down
with a one-tank strategy.
Yeah.
No, we love Scott.
He also does a lot of work sort of like behind the scenes.
He sort of acts as like the liaison between team
liquid and the rest of the guild alongside Bubba and Tag.
So he does a lot of work in the administrative sense as well.
Of course.
Hard worker.
Incredibly hard work on that one.
Lots of hats as well.
And a great karaoke singer.
So true.
I was not expecting that.
He's such a quiet, stoic man.
And then a couple of two years ago,
we had a karaoke session just here in the office
for funsies.
and he just like whipped out Frank Sinatra.
Like he's been doing it his whole life.
He was ready for it too.
He was so ready.
I had a blast with him.
Yeah, oh yeah, you did a duet with him.
Uh-huh, I did.
What was the duet?
We did a few different songs.
We did Blue Suede Shoes as well together.
Is that Frank Sinatra?
Yes.
Is something of that era?
Temptation needed.
Chad's actually going to know and they're going to blow up.
No, it's actually Elvis or something like that.
I know what you did.
It is Elvis.
That's right.
Okay, that's what I thought.
Elvis?
Oh, okay.
I was like, between the two, and I'm pretty sure it was Elvis.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have a video of that that I made.
It was a charity incentive.
Was it last year, maybe, where we would
release the footage for that?
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
We replay it while we have time to fill today.
We might have time to fill it today.
I don't know.
We can get in that later.
But let's take a look also first
at some of the other guilds and their progression,
of course.
Method, Echo.
Currently on that Coinbase leaderboard,
they have both started on Silk and Court.
We can maybe update everyone on how method specifically
is doing.
We do have a clip of Cruella and her POV.
My queen, I love her so much.
Hey, we have the Harpy Tracker as well going on for two.
Yes, the Cruella Special.
This is one of my favorites.
Remember seeing this at like 140, 150 beats a minute
for her on the Hylondrous Kill as well.
Just the pulse pounding moment here.
You can see it's rising as well at the very end
of the encounter as everybody is just
trying to survive and make sure they can even
use the mandate that Mad Queen's mandate trinket dealing a massive amount of damage to a singular
target to finish off this encounter and be able to get moves of the world third kill onto this.
I believe so. I'd love to see that. It happened in fast succession too. Yeah, I'd love to see
like a bar graph of the heart rate, her heart rate throughout the fight, and like I don't know
deaths or so. I don't know what you could compare it to that might it like correlate with,
But there we go.
Celebrating.
You can go even higher as well.
Yeah, you'll wait.
That's funny.
157 as well.
That's the thing.
This encounter is just enormously challenging
and just absolutely can be so sucking
when you can do everything right and still have wipes
and still perish to the point that you're
sort of rolling the dice to hope that some of the tankiest
glasses are receiving the Queen's Bane dot, which
even got nerfed mid-progression because it was so brutal for everybody and get the boss
down with the sort of like the right RNG and the right setup.
The lack of gear for all of these guilds compared to what our maximum eye level is going to
be of like 639.
All the teams around 622 when they got this kill.
It was so noticeable how much lower the stamina was compared to the damage.
Even had healers who were building specifically just for triage output to make sure they
They could keep everybody healthy above that 10% mark
since the Reaper mechanic on this fight
will instantly kill you if you are sub 10%.
Of course, big congratulations to both Echo and Method
for their world second, world third kills.
That means all three guilds
are gonna be on to Silicon Core today.
Yeah, it's still kind of early in the day
also over in Germany where both Method and Echo
are competing, so we're gonna have side by side,
hopefully, because I love when that happens.
side by side pulls on a silken cord and that should be very exciting. This is when the race
kind of really starts to start. It does. And yesterday, notably Liquid, after killing Nexus
Princess, they got a few pulls in on a silken cord and they said, hey, we need to hop off,
go a little dark, have the Raiders do M-plus, and then we start mapping out, figuring out
some of the timings, how we're coordinating some of our choreography really and how everyone's
was moving throughout the encounter.
And we had to fill quite a bit last night.
Cams brought his grandpa in and makes, taught him how to play World of Warcraft.
Love that.
Yeah, that went...
Actually, his grandfather?
Yes.
Actually, his real grandfather.
We flew him in.
I don't know if he was like local or something like that.
Well, his dad came into town last time around.
His dad, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, a little bit more with the times than Cams' grandpa.
Oh, no.
nicely. Yeah, like you know he kind of was determined to get on the raid team
almost immediately, so he's got a little bit more to practice probably
before he gets up to a world-first level. I think everybody could use a little
bit more practice, a little bit more fresher as well. Yeah, you never know. It's always good to humble yourself and kind of start
backing your roots every once in a while. Of course. But Team Liquid, they did get a
world-first princess kaiveza down. Take a look at that replay right here
from Inpex POV. Yeah, this has been one of the most grueling encounters we've had in quite a long
time and while the mechanics have been more straightforward than most of the 300 pole boss
encounters we've seen in the world first race, the tuning itself, the amount of health that the
boss has, the amount of damage the boss is dealing has been enormously noticeable for this
race to world first. It's also just been grueling for these raiders trying to find the
additional damage to the point that the two tank strategy after I want to say
150 or almost 200 pulls gets tossed out the window when they realize they did
not have enough damage to get the boss down with two of those tank players and
so they switched to the one tank strategy which had a little bit of
reprogression but the majority of the attempts after they switched to the one
tank strategy really just involved trying to figure out or trying to make
Make sure that the players who were the least defensive, who were the weakest, were just
not getting targeted by those mechanics, that they could actually survive.
Because you could have some unfortunate RNG of the same players getting targeted over
and over and over again, leading to deaths.
And when you're running a one tank strategy, you can't have any deaths by the DPS until
maybe the very end of the encounter, I think is what we had.
It was like one death on Riki, which should actually be coming up here.
that they were able to use the Battle Res for.
And then, like I mentioned earlier,
the Ancestral Protection Totem,
giving that free Battle Res,
you can see it in this like,
wispy circle around the room.
It takes up the entirety of that central sigil.
Sitting in the room, you can see this light blue animation
sparkling around there.
That means that the next player to die within that field
is going to receive a free Res.
And so it's fantastic for when you want to plan
Res'es on an encounter for certain debuffs
Like the tank dot, this Shredder debuff does a ton of damage instantly and has almost a 30-second
dot component to it, a damage over time component. And what really ends up happening is you need to
have your tanks sacrifice themselves in order to more or less immune that debuff since they die
to the debuff and then they res again and they are then cleansed of it. And here you can see
the final burn on the boss with everybody alive and just popping everything to make sure
that the team survives. Of course tanks able to stand in some of those void pie slices to avoid
splashing onto anybody else. It is imperative that people are moving as little as possible,
especially with these line mechanics in called Regicide, because they can splash onto other
players and kill them off if you're not careful. Yeah, and it was a really really incredible
approach. We saw them just continue to diminish that health as they went into that final phase.
It was like 10%, 9%, and then this poll ended up, I think, being like 7%.
So this poll and the way that they had to do it to squeak out that last bit of DPS
basically was so unforgiving.
If they had anybody wipe in the first couple of minutes, they would just restart.
I've never seen, especially with the fact that you don't have to get a food
buff anymore every single time, just like chain poll.
Like basically, as people were still resing, like the poll timer, I feel like was already going off.
So you really got to get in that, you know, repetition.
Yeah, you do.
And it's just mind-numbing at times for these Raiders
having to repeat it over and over and over again,
especially if you've done everything right.
You can get into the encounter where you're doing every single
mechanic properly.
You're using all of your defenses properly.
And then you can still die anyway onto the fight.
And that's what led to a crazy amount of frustration
for the guild and for probably everybody
who has been progressing on this encounter
and working on it just because the damage is so high.
It's one of these encounters that when you can outgear it
Or when the stacking raid nerf starts being implemented in the next couple of weeks after the race to world first is over,
this fight is going to fall over for a lot more teams, but boy is it a different encounter for the world first guilds.
Yeah, it certainly is. I'm interested to see how it's going to go on a reset and kind of, you know, just the difference second go around.
I would love to see a nerf announce that would discourage a one tank strategy.
Yeah, that would probably be nice.
Let's kill it off entirely as well as having some slight health nerf to it, because I think
even if they do not change the strategy at all, and then they just say, hey, you have
two, three, four eye levels more, you're still going to have possibly like half hour
or an hour's worth of attempts just to get the right combination of mechanics and
targeting to get the re-kill on the boss, and that does not sound too fun.
All right, well, we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
That's not our problem.
forward today. Our problem is instead the silicon court along with a couple of
other guilds. We can take a look at the best pull from method that they had.
I'm assuming today earlier today in the time. I'd love to be able to see it.
Notably, a lot of the mechanics are very similar to what we've experienced
on heroic and should be very familiar. You are going to have these web
bombs you can see on the far left side of your screen and methods POV
that players are able to stand in as if they have another partner in the
webs with them, they are then able to activate a web tether which they can use
to stop the boss from charging into the wall. That web tether requires three
tethers together to make sure that you could stop it, but the big thing is the
mythic mechanic here with the orbs. You can see on the encounter there's red
and blue orbs and the raid has to be split into two teams. The red team
whenever they get targeted by an unavoidable mechanic are going to
drop red orbs. Now if these orbs are not soaked, they afflict the blue team with a debuff that when
stacked, if it hits three stacks, it instantly kills that player and prevents them from being
rezed for the rest of the encounter. So the solution on this fight is that the red team must
soak blue orbs without reaching three stacks. And of course the debuffs expire after about 20
seconds or so. And then of course the blue group has to soak the red orbs. Again, not
reaching three stacks. There's a ridiculous amount of choreography that goes into this
encounter to make sure the teams are sort of moving almost parallel to each other, sort
of mirroring each other's positioning while you handle all of these mechanics. The other
challenge is you're having moments where entire groups are getting dragged in to
the boss together, activating more tethers. And in the second phase, you can snap
those tethers instantly. In the final phase, you need to keep a few of these tethers going
so that you can then clothesline the boss in the final phase, get that damage amplifier
onto it, and add more damage.
Ooh! Yeah, a lot going on. I mean, you see the bulk of the mechanics that you're going
to see throughout the rest of the fight in that first sort of chunk of the fight.
So I feel like once we see them nail down the strategy for that, because of course
We don't know what they were up to last night.
We're going to see sort of significant progress
get chumped off the boss.
Oh, yes.
Today is going to be one of the best days of race
because we're going to have all three guilds
in the next hour or so when liquid's getting ready for raid.
In the next hour or so, we're going
to have all three guilds competing
on the exact same boss, seeing what progress is going
to be made for them, and how well they're
going to execute.
So if you guys have no idea what's
happening with Silicon Court,
pay attention on this part.
The fight begins and each of the Lieutenants is going to have a red or a blue circle
and when the cast completes you are going to get marked with a red or blue buff.
So when you have any of the unavoidable mechanics going out in this encounter
you're going to see this venomous rain coming down in just a moment.
When that goes out players are of course going to be dropping red or blue orbs.
So as you can see the red orbs go down from fire to POV
and he starts sliding along with the rest of the red team to start picking up those blue orbs.
Blue team has to do the same thing with the red orbs. If those orbs are not soaked, they explode
and then add a stack to all of the players on the opposing team, so if a blue orb goes off,
it applies a blue debuff to red team. If red team has three blue debuffs onto them,
they instantly die, cannot be res'd for the rest of the encounter, and then they are just
out, basically. This fight is a crazy amount of movement, while also requiring more tethers
to clothesline the boss, and there's moments in the intermission phase where you have to
be just pinwheeling, carouseling around the boss, soaking the other team's orbs while
not reaching too many stacks of your own. I have some interesting news. Yes. 30 minutes
Wowhead announced that there's gonna be a hot fix to Stinging Storm.
So we saw on Mythic there was a bug where if you put all stacks onto Codge,
it would not be disoriented and stop his cast while we didn't datamine anything that fixes it,
considering it seems to target the same spell that may be fixed now.
So Stinging Storm now deals 50% less damage to players, but takes every 0.5 seconds, where it was previously won.
Now it deals 44% less damage on Mythic, and now it takes on the boss instantly when applied.
Interesting.
Interesting. So it looks like I think having a more frequent tick rate is often a good thing
Even if the damage and the total damage may be around the same
And so this is gonna allows a little bit more of an idea as to how much damage they're actively taking
It's a little bit less of a chunk and so you're gonna have more active spot healing going into the players
So it looks like already
Method and echo we're having to deal with a couple bugs in the encounter. Yeah, well no pun intended because it's a ha ha ha
Thank you.
And as a result, it might have stymied a little bit
of their progress early on, whereas Liquid, we
saw them doing lots of Mythic Plus.
Did they end up doing any Mythic splits?
They talked about doing it, like getting the first four
bosses down, first a potential Alt Swaperu going onto it.
So they're making very good use of their time,
is my point.
Yeah.
Not smashing face into the boss and running into some of these
bugs that might stop their progress for a little while
and wait for hot fixes to make sure that they are dealt with. So it'd be very interesting to see
today if there's any other bugs remaining that might actually impede progress for any of these guilds
and you have to keep in mind at some point Method and Echo probably tomorrow are going to have to
make sure they get all the remaining dungeons done max out their vaults because Superloop
Tuesday for the US or Superloop Wednesday for EU is going to make a very huge difference when
when it comes to the last two bosses for progression.
Oh, can I address something to chat to?
Of course.
Spiner, they're not bugs.
Well, she doesn't have eight legs, so she's not a bug.
Didn't ask.
Didn't ask.
Verizon raid decides what are bugs.
Exactly.
It'd be a bug if we wanted to be a bug.
They squish all the same.
They do.
Unless you set them out into the wild like I had us.
The well actually, spiders are not bugs, Comet.
Is I think well, I don't.
Chatting, Comet, I've seen this entire tier,
I'm so sick of it.
Do either of these mobs have eight legs?
No.
Oh, so they're bugs then?
They're not spiders.
Not technically.
Oh, that's weird.
I'm pretty sure you have six legs.
I see four legs on both of them.
Yeah.
Can I get a fact check count?
Yeah, you need to enhance.
Computer.
Enhance.
Enhance.
Do you squish spider, Lucy?
Uh, yes.
Oh.
Yeah.
I think about spider.
There is no mercy.
Or if they're honestly, if they're in a corner,
I'll kind of just let them chill.
No, I've done that in the past.
I've had mercy and then they appear again.
I thought we would have a verbal agreement as to,
you don't bother me, I don't bother you,
but then they pop up again.
And then they bother you.
Yeah.
OK, yeah, that's not great.
I had one fall on his web in my face
right in front of me recently.
That one freaked me out.
I had one that was in my car and it was in the summertime
and so I always had the AC going.
And so I just rolled down all the windows
and then it flew out of the car.
Okay.
You're like your little passenger princess.
That's right.
You just let him be free.
I was like, I couldn't quite grab him
when the corner that he was in.
Right.
And so I just rolled down all the windows
and got on the highway and I like her.
That works.
Skirt!
Hmm.
Oh man.
We have a giant orb weaver that's hanging out
at the outside of our house.
We let her chill.
Yeah, oh yeah.
They're like outside the house or something like that.
Yeah.
And doing her thing.
Cool.
Do your business.
If you kill this fighter that's outside of your house,
I feel like you're just.
No, that's their domain.
not a nice yeah yeah that's their domain they want to hang out there yeah
you're coming in into their house and you're pushing them to school I mean we're
kind of doing that with these bugs to be fair the the funniest thing I think
about like the lore of this raid yeah is that we're not we're not even like
sneaking into the palace to take out the leadership or anything yeah we're
walking through the front door mm-hmm the entire palace knows we're there
hmm and then we're just destroying everything in our path yeah to the
that we even had a moment where like thrown of thunder the Thunder King would
send us down into the sewers to try to kill us and we'd have to kill all of his
denizens in the sewer or something like that the ancient monstrosities there
no we're literally just fighting our way through the entire palace they're
trying to kill us and send us down into the depths of all their evil
concoctions and we're just fighting our way up and mowing anyone down on our
path we're crashing the party very much so yeah it's a great party as well
We kind of invited ourselves to do it.
We did, you know?
And that's just kind of how we go as the murder hobos.
We find loots.
We would like to get the loot.
We would like to make sure our characters look as cool as they can.
And nothing is going to stand in our way.
Absolutely not.
But speaking of making your characters as cool as they can, have you checked out My
Blue?
I have.
Oh my gosh, teal.gg slash My Blue.
It is the new and improved Team Liquid fan hub.
This is our way to basically reward the viewer.
So if you're sitting here watching either us or Max or any of the other Raiders or any
of the other Team Liquid streamers, even outside of World of Warcraft, you definitely should
be checking out MyBlue.
You can scan that code.
Or like I said, go to TL.gg slash MyBlue.
You can have a more traditional experience of that website similar to Liquid Plus,
or you can join the MyBlue specific experience and have your own little avatar that you
can dress up.
Some of the items kind of look a little bit Warcraft-esque, and some of them are
also exclusive to the race world first.
They are indeed.
There's a number of quests that they have going out
every single day, giving you a couple of little mage robes
on hand.
You can customize your character as you see fit.
Some of them you can even have a trash can.
Did you see that one?
I did.
I did not.
Oh, you can just have your blue in like a little trash can.
That's amazing.
We'll can for a hat.
Ooh, I like the dagger, the little scooter dagger
they have on it.
I want to get an equip too.
Would you be dual wheeled those?
Oh, I love that.
Yeah.
Still waiting to see the stage.
I've been talking to the team in my dreams.
I had more staves, add more free staves.
I agree.
This one was based off Regicide.
Oh, that was one of the daggers that
dropped off of Princess Cadeza.
Yeah, sure was.
So you can RP also with your My Blue,
if you'd like to pretend you're
in their fight in the long-time team liquid.
But if you go a side up for My Blue,
you go to TL.GG slash My Blue,
and you complete the quest for the derp shirt,
you can be entered for a chance to win.
A pretty gig a giveaway, Jack.
Yes.
Just keep piling things onto it.
There is a crazy treasure trove of items
that is being given away from the team at My Blue.
Having to go in, get your derp shirt
quest that I have on right now, get that done.
And you'll be entered to win so many things.
So many things.
I've got to tell you.
So many things.
Oh, there's the other derp shirt as well.
Yeah.
I believe that they are winning with the quest.
So last year, last year's,
maybe we can load that one up in there too.
And but if you go in there, complete the quest,
then you are entered for a chance to win
just a whole plethora of things
that we can show in just a moment.
But look how cute your mind blue could look
if you go and do that quest.
It's probably pretty easy too.
I actually have not, I need to do it myself.
I kind of just was spam doing the quest.
So I don't know which one specifically it was,
but the first couple, I probably did.
The first like five, 10 that they give you
are really easy.
And then the other ones can include,
you know, tracking into a specific stream
or on Team Liquid stream or watching the race world first
or something like that.
That's right.
Joining the chat spam as we're filling time
or waiting or something like that for the next boss,
Skip Holt.
Yeah, all kinds of fun quests and activities
to show your fandom for Team Liquid.
And here is that treasure trove that we were mentioning.
Yep, not only are they given away the 20th anniversary
WoW Collectors Edition with statue
and all of the other in-game goodies that it provides,
They're also providing a secret lab's chair,
a case of the Raiders' favorite monster energy.
All of the shirts, both vintage and the new ones,
you can see in the top left, there's the derp shirt.
It's gonna be coming right at the top left,
as well as the new derp shirt that I have on at the moment.
The hoodie as well for Queen Anzarek.
And so much more.
They got plushies in there.
They have all the shirts in there.
I think they also have the larger jackets
from the 20th anniversary Warcraft collection.
They have Illidan and Arthus on them as well.
They're very warm, they're fuzzy on the outside.
So warm.
And I just remember if they have the dark,
sort of like padding on the inside.
Yeah.
So they're not overly insulated.
That's the nice insulation they have.
Yeah, I want the one that I'm gonna go skiing in it.
Yes.
I could genuinely ski in something like that.
And of course, with the My Blue community,
you can give a special shout out
directly to Team Liquid themselves, cheering them on.
And here we have a few of those special shoutouts.
All right, here's one.
Let's go.
Cheering for you with my liquid guild of been Bean Meerstine.
From Liquid Plus Rewards, that is from Kieran.
And then we've got Let's Go Liquid from Fishface.
Nice name.
Love to see him.
We have Let's Go Team.
He's in the trash can as well.
See, I love that everybody likes the trash cans.
These bosses aren't as bossy as we are.
Wait, that came out kind of wrong.
Let's go liquid.
We.
We tore dry?
We tore dry?
Yeah, I heard that too.
Liquid for life.
Thank you, funky.
Yes, thank you.
Let us know what that hashtag means.
Sorry, well, there's some research behind the scenes.
Yeah.
I'm still trying to think of what it could be.
We two dry?
We two dry?
Wet or dry?
Oh, wet or dry.
Oh, it actually is a W.
I still don't can't know.
Okay, well like liquids wet.
Okay.
So.
Or dry.
We'll see.
But you could always have your puzzling message
for us to unravel every morning.
Yeah, why not?
Because we're featuring all of these special shout outs
every morning on Rise and Rage.
So you can always feature your blue
and confuse us at the same time.
One more, could you ask?
I'm sure that person's watching like so annoyed at us
right now, I'm so sorry.
I bet they're just having fun with it.
They're like, they'll never know.
I got a really confusing hashtag and put an O.I. message
and confused the casters and make them look stupid.
Well, you know what's not confusing?
Some beautiful animals.
And we've been helping a ton of them
at the Santa Monica animal shelter onto that one.
But unfortunately, we have to delay a little bit
of the animal pictures first, because we
got to talk about what's going with that amazing apparel
is going to be, which will probably
end up being covered in animal hair sometime.
Probably.
Mine already is.
Yep.
I even come here without any of my animals, obviously,
and I shine their hair.
I have to bring a hair roller with me.
Right, smart.
Yep, otherwise my cat hair is going to be all over it.
But you can get your animal hair all over your merch
if you go to teal.gg slash store.
We've got the jersey available.
We have this lovely liquid gilderp shirt
that Jack is sporting today available, a hoodie.
There's some mouse pads.
There's a shirt.
The Team Liquid apparel team does such a great job
of just making a new little line of apparel,
specifically for the Race World First fans and also people involved like us every single tier and here is
women on your shirt
This was a drawn by someone on our staff this time around
The last one was as well looks like mine
We like my type of drawing. Yeah
Six legs as well, which is accurate which is cannon. Oh true. It is actual boss. It is yeah
Yeah.
We do have a DERP Emo.
We should get just the space in the chat.
Just have that as an Emo.
I think so.
I'm sure you know what 7TV will have it.
And it also, wait, hold on.
Does it help?
It has the DERP, the team liquid logo.
This is like an official logo that already existed
before we started making this shirt.
And it's kind of like a DERP-y liquid team liquid logo.
I love it so much.
That's great.
Oh, you surprised the camera.
Yeah, you turned around too quickly.
They resumed it up.
I'm sorry, I should have covered you.
That was my bad.
I should have just like, come to the play.
Don't come out yet.
All right, we'll definitely go to teal.gg slash store,
if you would like to check it out.
Also, we do have launched our 20th Wow Anniversary Apparel
Collection.
You can go to teal.gg slash Warcraft 20,
if you would like to pre-order some of the Sherpas
that you guys saw that had Illidan on it,
as well as there's a concept one for Sylvanas.
There's also the Lich King.
There's a lot of other stuff that we've done in collaboration
with World of Warcraft.
Love to be able to see it.
So many things.
Get ready for winter as well.
You may think you may not need it right now,
but when I get that two weeks of winter in Texas,
I'll be wishing I had it.
Yeah, and some people have their AC so high
you might need it as well.
That's true.
It's in the heavy.
I'd be like, yeah, I'd do that in the summertime too.
Call it out.
Sorry.
Well, let's talk about now we can get to our Animal Shelter
charity fundraiser.
This is Santa Monica Animal Shelter,
tl.gg slash rwf-donate.
If you'd like to help support our cause,
We are at $13,430, which means we are super close to that $15,000 incentive.
That's right.
Twitch is going to be able to play production themselves.
You at home are able to customize your Race to World first viewing experience alongside
the 20,000, 30,000 other people who are all going to be spamming ones and twos in chat.
You will be able to decide the point of view that you want to see the most.
That sounds like chaos.
It might just be at the back of somebody's head.
Yeah, it could be.
It could be anything.
You never know.
That's right.
You'll be in control onto that one.
We have a crazy amount of classroom sentence that we've been working on.
And at $20,000, we'll also be having a date with Zalatath herself.
Ooh.
I don't know how we're coordinating that.
They told me it was a surprise.
Yeah.
They do that a lot to us.
They like to make sure they keep us in the dark so that way we're not like,
oh yeah, it's like this.
It's fair.
Yeah.
We did do casters do blindfolded delve last night.
I saw that.
It's got hams and turtles.
They were sort of coordinating their way through.
It was only tier one, but it still was really difficult.
Oh really?
Yeah.
He played his devastation evoker, so it kind of made it a little bit, I mean it was doable.
It worked out.
Shouldn't tier eights.
Well, maybe you could do that.
Make it a suffer.
We'll add another incentive if you want to do a tier eight blindfolded delve.
I don't know who's going to help you out with that one though.
That sounds awful to help.
have to direct. But yeah if you'd like to donate $30 you can have your pet featured on stream or you
can have your transmog featured on stream. We can take a look though at some of the pets we have had
submitted. I gotta say Jack our fans have some of the cube spits. We have so many there's a whole
new flood of them every day. I saw a couple of these when we had some extra time to check out
pets of course on broadcast. All of these pets were featured each of the different days that
that they've been submitted,
and we have a full new collage of them every single day.
There's a raccoon in this compilation.
There is.
That is not a joke.
That was a real pet that was submitted.
I forget his name.
Babysitter.
Babysitter?
That was the name of the raccoon.
I don't know what the context of that is.
I don't know if they found it as like a baby wild
and they just kept it or something,
which I'm pretty sure is illegal,
but I don't know.
Somebody let me know.
We're not reporting that.
It's probably legal in Texas, to be fair.
I'd hope so.
I feel like you can know a lot of weird things in Texas.
Yeah, we had a lot of raccoons on my college campus.
They just be in the trash cans constantly.
Oh boy.
Yeah.
Oh, they are?
Oh, they are.
Like, you go to throw something away
and there's like a raccoon in there.
That's fantastic.
I worked on my jump shots quite a bit.
Love a good habitualized animal.
Wild animal.
That's yeah.
All right, $30, like I said, for your transmog rating.
Or you can put your pet on stream.
Apparently, this is really confusing for some people.
So if you take a look at that,
if you look at the message, you
you can submit a link of your transmog or your pet
if you'd like to help us raise money for the Santa Monica
Animal Shelter again, that is $30.
So thank you so much to everyone
that has supported our amazing foundation so far.
They were in the other day, and they were so, so, so grateful.
I got an email last night about how grateful they were.
Oh, great.
Yeah.
We'd love to be able to see it.
We were interviewing Taylor, and she brought in Simba
Sr.
Simba Sr.
He was three years old, if I remember correctly.
Big boy.
very big boy, very excitable.
Still need the home.
Went into a brand new environment with lots of people,
lots of noise, and was just happy to see everybody
and try to play.
Very true.
Yeah.
Yeah, so if you'd like to adopt Simba or any of the other
animals that are available at the Santa Monica Animal
Shelter, teal.gg slash adopt, we are going to feature one
of them every day.
And this morning, we have a very handsome guy, Jack.
Here is Roger.
Aw.
Look at him.
White Korean Jindo mix.
I've never heard of that.
Same.
The beautiful dog nonetheless.
Staff thinks he's about a year and eight months old.
He's been at the shelter since August of 2023
and that is more than a year, which is very, very sad.
Lovable goofball, super friendly, loves to give kisses
and has a lot of playful energy.
Oh man, I think he's been there for that long.
He looks so happy.
You can just see how fluffy his coat is as well.
I think he'd love to be able to play it all day long.
I'm sure they also are always looking for volunteers
who want to just go around and play with the animals
and play with all the do
them some enrichment time.
That's what they call it.
So you can always go to t
if you're interested in
But even if you have some
local into the area and w
they have on hand, I'm su
have your support. Yeah,
we raised, I think it was
this anamodic animal sho
told that amongst all of the other things like, you know,
tropnoderelease programs and help getting surgery
for some of the intake animals,
one of the major things that they were able to do
was build a play area for the animals.
Cause they're out capacity right now, 25 dogs they have.
And of course, like we were saying,
especially with dogs like Roger,
it's very important to help get them, you know,
some play time, enrichment time,
so they're not just stuck in their cages all day.
And that, we hope you guys help us do that.
That's right.
And it helps a lot for making them more compatible
with incoming families or incoming people who are looking to adopt when they're
already very used to getting out and playing, getting out and moving around.
They're not cooped up all day or anything like that.
Yeah.
Helps them also be more social with all the other dogs they have going on too.
Yeah.
And you know socializing is always really funny.
They get to learn a little bit more about each other.
Just like at the Race to World first, we get to learn a lot more about all the Raiders.
Yeah, we had some fun facts that emerged yesterday.
I learned that yips is a baker.
Days are condensed, Nick is a Swifty,
all kinds of things from our next segment,
which is Guess the Gildy.
Jack and I are gonna once again attempt to guess the Gildy,
guess along with us, chat, no cheating.
Let's see the first one and see if we can get it.
That's right, keep in mind some of these,
we've already guessed and so there's a number of them
that we've already seen thus far.
First one is gonna be just what I am like to do,
that's a banger song.
That is a banger song.
That's a really like motivating song too.
Sure is.
I don't have any guesses from this one though.
Do we have our list of who we've already guessed?
I forgot it, sorry.
We have, maybe, you know what?
Oh, I hear this.
Can I guess KSP?
I'm gonna guess KSP.
I don't know, it seems like a kid-cutting guy.
Yeah, final answer.
Jersey Mike's 13, I'll actually go there
at least once a week.
Okay, this might be someone's-
This Max?
We've already, we've already guessed Nick, we've already guessed Nick, I believe we've
already had Yps.
Hmm.
We already had Yps.
Um, why don't we go to the next clue?
You want to go to the next clue?
Yeah, let's go to the next clue.
Let's go to the next clue.
Healer.
Healer.
Drawing.
Yeah, it's got to be.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What a banger of a song, too.
Save boss Ilgenoth non-cheese strat, Nyloka or Holandris.
Oh, that's huge, okay.
So this is crazy.
God, this is such a dry setup as well.
Ilgenoth and Holandris,
both are just crazy Holy Paladin fights.
Ilgenoth, notably, had all these players debuffed
that you basically have to heal,
like, spot heal them through the whole mechanic
and if somebody died, they basically like,
wipe out the raid.
So massive, massive emphasis
the spot healing capabilities of Holy Paladin player.
Notably, Holy Paladin with the ineffable torment,
corruptions back in the day,
made it so huge for them to just blast tons
of Holy Shocks, glimmer healing, the works.
Alondra's, let me need I say more,
crazy amount of work there by the Holy Paladin players.
Hidden talent, hockey, golfing, baseball, football,
and of course biking, running.
And I knew a few things about cows.
Well, we're gonna move up about that a little bit later.
I've already asked him about it.
He genuinely knows, he knows all of the cow breeds.
Yeah, he is an everyman.
He knows so many things about so many different topics.
That's a well rounded guy.
Also, a poor one out for James, Enzy, Eric, and Vade.
Very nice. Yes, he's a great guy.
We miss him.
You could very much see how ingrained into the culture
and ingrained into the guilt
that trying has been over the years.
Love him, we were talking about healing.
He came into the castor room the other day.
We just started talking about healing
an hour and everything.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Well, you just came to say hi.
Yeah, you just came in to say hi and just wanted to hang out.
Absolutely.
Not a lot of the players do that, which is totally fine.
Of course, they're very focused.
They don't need to talk to us.
That's fine.
They've got a job to do, so they'll leave.
Absolutely.
You had a little bit of downtime and just
wanted to come in and hang out.
So I'd love to be able to see it.
And I think we have one more guilty to guest today.
We did that one too fast.
We're going to sneak in a third one here.
Let's see how we do.
All right.
Let's do a fried chicken sandwich or something similar.
OK.
That does not narrow it down.
I was gonna say.
Hmm.
Hmm.
What's, have we had your cube yet?
No.
We have the cube.
Let's do the cube.
Okay.
Dang.
All right.
I tend to listen to vocal trance
or old Taylor Swift songs,
something like back to December,
the way I loved you by her.
Wow.
That is, that is very specific.
Uh.
Who else would, okay.
Vocal trance.
I was on somebody's stream the other day and they were listening to Trit. Who was that?
They were out. They were benched.
Impact? Have we had Impact here?
Impact listens to like metal on his stream. But do you want to guess Impact?
Okay, if you listen to metal on his stream then we won't have that.
So...
Could it be...
Have you had a Trill listening to any vocal trills?
I feel like Trill listens to just in-game music, but I could do wrong.
Okay.
Maybe Splat?
Splat, yeah.
Let's try Splat.
Bang.
Okay.
Okay.
DPS, all right, not telling us too much.
You know what, Atlas?
Have we had Atlas?
We've already had Atlas.
I feel like this has got to be an EU player.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because the fact that they didn't say what type of fried chicken, like from where,
that could be it.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Siri?
No, no, we already have Seri.
Did we already have Seri?
No, we have not yet.
He used our heart to MVP, and he's also a healer.
I'm going to do, sorry.
Oh, it says World DPS, but yeah, I missed that, I missed that.
Okay.
It's not saying, it's saying listen to in-game music.
Tobo? Tobo.
No, no, we already had Tobo.
Oh my gosh, okay, okay.
I know, we've gone through 14 abilities at this point.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh, who was it?
I, okay, I think it's Impact.
Okay, Impact.
Are you crazy?
Do you like mine?
Okay.
One more clue.
Give us a kiss.
Heroic Ragnaros, older player, been around the block.
Who was it?
That was a person.
It's somebody that was here.
Hmm, yep, morning.
Goop, is it Goop?
Is it Goop?
Give us Goop.
Goop just walked in.
Oh, you're good.
You're all, we're guessing.
We're guessing again.
Go ahead, Goop.
Sorry, he just turned around like, what?
I'm proficient in SQL and I know my way around
a database.
Bart?
I don't think it's Bart.
He's listening to my game.
He may be the analysts.
Bubba?
Analyst, analyst.
Oh, right, because it's DPS.
I keep thinking.
You even said that.
Uh, who the heck, what is SQL, first of all?
Some code?
Code?
Language.
Code things.
Code things.
Have we guessed ribbons yet?
No.
Ribbons.
Yeah.
Dang.
Oh my gosh.
What is this?
Stumped us.
I asked you about Trill. Oh my gosh, you're so right. I'm so sorry. I did not think he listened to music
Yeah, I trusted you on that one. You had more background. You're like, nah, that's not Trill. I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry. I'm going my own path next time
That's right. Trill is my teammate for the Knithy Plus Pro Am charity. Then you should have known better than me
I didn't ask when he was listening to Max Trill and I crushed it though. I'm proud of you. Yeah, that was the blast
Also God speed the Trill. I had a back team to be fair. You stirred it. You did. It's very true. Yeah
Currently practicing for both AWC and this fight. So that's a lot on one man
It is and he's handled it with grace keep in mind
Trill was the last new player to get brought into on Nexus Princess Kivesa
And then through a handful of polls he figured out how he wanted to set up his
defenses. He asked for help when you needed to, trying to figure out how we
could survive some of the awful combinations and mechanics that could
happen on the encounter and directly was leading to that boss getting crushed.
He was like top five in DPS, something like that. It was great. Dudes and
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Hello everybody and good morning.
Welcome back to the Race to World first.
We are progressing on mythic the silken cord.
My name is Aya, I'm here with Sironic and Automatic Jack.
Hello, good morning.
You guys are blanky.
Good morning.
We're blankied up.
We're cozyed up this morning.
Yeah, we're cozyed up.
It's a little chilly, it's a little chilly outside too.
It's like rainy and humid and gray outside.
I feel like I'm back in Ohio.
I love it.
Too soon.
I love it.
We need a little bit of moisture in the air.
I'm feeling a lot better for it.
I love the cool weather.
Yeah, too.
I'm so too used to the hot Texas weather.
I like the chilly mornings.
Yeah, especially in the evening,
you know when we're walking back to the hotel
of the day, you know, having like crazy hot weather in Texas at night and everything. It's like the
ground is just like simmering with heat. It's nice walking home and getting some rest and it's all
cool outside. Yeah, I'm still not used to like Ohio where it stays warm at night. Like it's very
weird. My brain doesn't compute that like the sun or the moon is out and yet it's still warm.
It's very odd. So it's nice to be back in a desert climate where it's nice and cold
at night. But that being said, before we get into talking about this mythic
prod that we are currently working on, do have to give a mention to our lovely
sponsors of course. Coinbase are presenting partners as well as Secret Lab,
Monster Energy, Alienware, Raider IO, WoW Head, Warcraft Logs, and Dungeon Dojo as
well. Those guys are giving us all the updates on the other guilds that are
progging as well. So if you'd like some coverage on somebody besides Liquid
Echo or Method, definitely go over there and check them out. And also, let's
Let's talk about our charity for just a little bit.
We did mention it during the morning show, but we'll catch the ironic up.
There's a lot of puppies.
We've got a nice appellation.
Yeah, we'll let you know on the prog over there.
We've got $13,430 is where we currently are.
We could potentially, if we really sell out to our audience guys, get to $15,000 within
this casting block.
We definitely can.
Okay.
I can sell out a lot.
You want to set up?
Yeah.
We're working at that.
We can do that.
We're professional.
I think we could.
Well let's make that our goal, maybe, within this casting block. I don't know if we want to set like a mini-goal.
Do we want to set a mini-goal if we get to like 15,000?
Hmm. I don't know. We can fix something up.
As long as it's not, uh, adjusting spicy pickles.
No. No, I don't think we'll be doing any of that over here.
Lady the Tramp Style.
Uh, Lady the Tramp Style, especially. I don't even know.
What is the lore behind the pickles over there?
I... I'm not sure.
All I saw were the screenshots and it didn't look great.
They're also doing the spicy chip challenge and they're making a bunch of British people do that
Yeah, I don't think their palette is very accustomed to spicy food at all. So
We have British people doing a spicy chip. I just know that okay mage
And I believe preach both did the spicy chip like the one chip challenge pretty sure like a regular pepper chip would be spicy to them
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't think it went very well
For I think like barbecue sauce was too spicy for her. Hey, we have barbecue for lunch. Don't we?
Yeah, we did. Yeah, yeah
facility here. There's like two or three of them. Luckily there's no British. I'm just
saying it. Otherwise, otherwise you would have to adjust her menu. Yeah, Scott. It's
got to be careful. Yeah. Okay, Scottish. Yeah, we've got we've got from that region.
From that area, that area. Brexit broke. I don't know. I don't get. I don't know how
it works anymore. But you know, we've got Scott Scottish. We've got KSP Birmingham.
We've got Tobo, I don't know what area he's from.
Do either of you guys know?
They probably do this where he's from.
Yeah, and then we've got a couple people on staff as well.
It's a Scottish person, so just keep them away
from the barbecue sauce.
Maybe.
That's spicy barbecue sauce.
Maybe to them it is.
That's what I'm saying.
These are okay-mages words.
I was listening this morning.
Really?
They did.
I think it was like a thing that kind of,
it was like, what's the show?
The Hot Ones?
Hot Ones, yeah.
They kind of get progressively spicier.
she was saying that the first one was too spicy for her,
I think is what she said.
Huh.
Yeah.
The first one was too spicy?
I believe so.
I believe so.
Someone should, someone-
The first one was just like Frank's hot sauce.
Oh, okay.
Which might be too spicy for some people.
I don't know.
My grandma doesn't like pepperoni,
but she's from Nebraska, so I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
We can get into that later.
Luckily we have no spicy challenges on our,
maybe we do a spicy challenge here though,
with our, we'll figure it out.
We have a lot of time to talk.
In the meantime, let's take a look at our Coinbase leaderboard, Echo and Method and Liquid
currently all bragging on Sylvan, MythicSylvanCourt at the same time, Zyro.
Yeah, we had a kill from Echo about 8 hours ago now.
Method got their kill on Princess about 3 hours ago.
They've been progressing on stream on those bosses for the past few hours or so each.
So, a little bit more information to go off on top of what the Raiders were learning
last night.
you guys have seen Raider IO updated us with some good Racer World First information last
night. They were talking about how Liquid was pulling the boss off-stream with half the raid
size, so there were less of the modes that they had to worry about that could progress
further into the fight, see more of the mechanics. So, even though they might not have progressed
much percentage-wise, I'm sure they learned a lot of the timers, which is kind of exciting
for us to talk about because it looks like we are in polls.
Yes.
Oh no. We feel too long.
We did our job too well. We did do our job too well. Look at that. Head to the first
poll of the morning. Take a look at Nick's POV. Poll number 58 for a silken
court. All right. We'd love to be able to see it. Polls are getting under way and
while a lot of these mechanics are going to look very similar to what we've
experienced onto Heroic, the big mythic mechanic throws a massive wrench
into the mix, having two different groups, one assigned blue, one assigned red, and
each of the teams is going to be spawning orbs relative to their color that need
to be soaked within a certain amount of time, otherwise they explode and debuff
the opposing side. You can see all the orbs spawning right now. So red team
from the Nick POV needs to soak at least, or it needs to soak all of the
orbs, but you can soak a maximum of two at a time, and the debuff is around
like 20, 30 seconds or something like that before it falls off so you can only soak so
many so frequently. And then the teams have to make sure that red team doesn't touch blue
and vice versa. You're constantly soaking these orbs around the room. The rain's gonna go
out once again, spawning more orbs onto all of these players and then the teams have
to shift once more to start soaking more of those orbs.
Also spawning the webs on the ground here as well. We're gonna get our pairs
ready for the next charge. You can see we've got three of those pairs. No longer
get away with one or two like a can on normal or heroic and we'll make sure we
have all three of those alive for the charge looks like players that went
down to either the fixed-aid damage or some of the residual damage of the fight
and we can see even though the mechanics look somewhat simple and similar to
heroic of course it's mythic it's all ramped up and having to constantly
worry about not running into one of the opposite colored players or soaking
too many motes is going to be a thorn on the side for the players for
pretty much the entire fight.
It will, especially as positioning gets very tight.
You're going to have entire sides of teams
that are going to be almost stacked on top of each other.
And having to soak only at a maximum of two orbs,
if you soak a third orb, you died.
You can no longer be resed.
So it's what we have to do with a beta.
Believe it's still the same.
It is the same still.
OK.
For that, you have to really make
sure your positioning is precise
so you can soak up to two orbs,
Let the debuff fall off, and then soak two more afterwards.
There's a lot of pressure onto that positioning,
and you're probably gonna see near like chain pulls,
I would say, for the first 20, 30 minutes,
just to make sure that they're going to get this
early positioning down, since this first phase sequencing
should be almost the exact same every single time.
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure this is some of the first
real pulls they put into the boss with 20 players.
We saw them pull it for maybe half an hour,
or a couple hours I'd say, after lunch.
And then they had a pretty long pull
and I believe they'd set something along the lines of
we would gain so much more time
just talking about what we saw.
Rather than just chain pulling.
So that's what they did.
They took time off, they went into Mythic Plus,
they went into the raid with 10 people
like mechanics, learn timing
so they could set up the door,
set up all of their cooldowns for large amount
of the burst damage, couldn't throw up the fight.
Right.
And that's one of the big factors
they're gonna have to watch for for this
is how do they make sure they're practicing,
especially the first phase into the second phase,
near perfectly every single time,
because as these phases progress,
they first are starting with pretty basic mechanics.
We saw it a heroic of having to make sure
that your clothes line in the beetle,
making sure he doesn't hit the wall,
and going into like the second and third phases,
they start combining more of these mechanics together.
The fight ramps up in difficulty
over the course of the encounter.
And as you can see, making sure the positioning
is almost the exact same every single time
is enormously important.
It's also funny to talk about,
there were nerfs to this fight this morning,
not necessarily nerfs, actually more buffs.
Oh yeah.
Actually, changes is what I was originally gonna say.
I got a little bit of a leak last night
talking about how it felt that the damage check
wasn't really that bad if you didn't run
the normal amount of tanks on the fight.
Then of course this morning we saw mostly Echo
running a one tank method, so both guilds
were thinking of using a one tank method.
Once again on this fight and they're not happy with that.
We had changes this morning to the tank cluster on the beetle.
Yeah, but Pierce.
Yeah, to Stinging Swarm.
Stinging Swarm now deals...
What's up?
It's the next one of the tank cluster.
Oh, you wanted me to do the tank cluster.
Pierce and strike.
I was just going to read it all, but no, I shouldn't.
Pierce and strike, and now it persists through death.
Yeah, you're talking about...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's a minute long, so there's like no way you can...
actually ever one tank this fight unless somehow a DPS can live it but also
the stinging swarm thing is a nice it's a nice bug fix because there's like a
weird problem it's like tick rate related where sometimes you could dispel
the debuff and the boss wouldn't get disoriented and that's something that
really can't happen on mythic so they made a change to help out with that yeah
it also means that the dot is gonna tick a little bit faster too which at
least from a healer POV makes it a lot easier to understand the damage intake
for the players, smoother, right?
Smoother, exactly.
Less chunky, there's gonna be other damage events
happening at the same time.
And so, sort of mentally, once you start recording
how much damage somebody's usually taking
with those debuffs, makes it a lot easier
to sort of like track it from an output point of view.
Nobody's getting like a big chunk of health lost
every second, it's every half second now
that it's ticking, making it a little bit more steady.
Here we have the beginning of our first
of the intermission phases,
where our tall spindly friend is putting up a shield
and of course, marking the different
pie sizes of the room with their Voidwebs.
Yeah, and of course, the main thing here
is the boss gonna be pulsing for a large amount of AEOE damage.
Every single one of those pulses
will drop moats on the ground that you have to go soak.
In addition to that, the entire time
we're trying to burst this shield down, right?
The longer the shield stays up,
the higher the damage ramps,
or moats you have to soak,
which means you're gonna keep falling further
and further behind in this phase.
It's a constant movement phase
where you're soaking moats, dodging frontals,
and you have to find a way to break through this shield
because this is going to be a big prog point
for the team to work through.
Absolutely will.
And you can already see how important positioning is
on the encounter as well when you have entire piles
of players getting the red orbs dropped off
or the blue orbs dropped off.
And it's important to note that when a orb is not soaked,
it detonates applying a one stack debuff
to everybody of the opposing team.
So as you see, Siri is on red team, for example.
If a blue orb is not soaked,
And then one blue stack is applied to every member of the red team.
If they reach three stacks, and these stacks persist through death by the way, they reach
three stacks, they die, and they cannot be res for the rest of the encounter.
And as a result, you're probably going to have a good chunk of progression here where
red team lives, or blue team lives.
If orbs are missed, if they're not soaked, if too many of them are spawned, for example,
and nobody can soak them, they can detonate and wipe out the whole raid.
So, sacrificial jumps into a orb or something like that.
Sound cool and all, but then that person is out of the fight forever.
So I actually don't know the answer to this.
And I wonder if maybe this is something they tested in some of their testing runs.
What prevents you from just having all 20 people go into one color at the start of
the fight?
I think there's some like balance or something like that.
Oh, okay.
So that's what it is.
Thank you, tags.
Perfect timing, literally, of having tags coming walked by by as the question gets asked.
Just walking by with this coffee and we rope him into it, it's our first question.
At the beginning of the encounter, there's two fields by each of the bosses to mark the different teams,
but if there's over 10 players that are getting marked by a specific buff,
there's over 10 red team players, for example, then the entire raid just wipes.
Good.
Makes sense. They thought of that. They thought of that.
No cheating for you.
Because otherwise, yeah, it would potentially trivialize the encounter.
Or it would trivialize the encounter.
Okay.
I really thought of everything, didn't I?
It really? Well, good.
Because it seems like they might have.
They didn't think of the one tank, but they fixed that right quick.
We'd love to be able to see it, yep.
We knew going into beta testing for this encounter that it was going to be one of the hardest fights ever.
And we just dealt with Princess Kaiveza with a total, a whopping total of 304 pulls to bring that boss fight down.
Now, getting into the good stuff.
I mean, in Princess Kaiveza, we can't stress enough how much of an outlier that type of boss is.
A non-penultimate or final boss in a raid.
Over 300 pulls.
You are in Palandra's territory with that pull count.
And that is obviously something we made a big deal out of when it was a when it was a thing a couple years ago back in Boston
Yeah, the weird thing about
Kai Vezza really compared to Launders that we've had you know, how laundry us
Painsmith in the sanctum domination raid. We had gore fiend in the hellfire citadel raid
it wasn't too much of an anomaly having these huge wall bosses in like the middle and
I guess technically, you know
There were some easy fights in the other wing for example in sepulchre
But most people just did all those fights before they did helandriss and in the case of like
paint Smith you had a guardian of the first ones which is pretty walk-over boss and
Then you had a couple more like mechanical challenges
I'm trying to remember the name of the big ghosty guy in Sanctum of domination color. Oh, hello fake color. Oh, yeah
Yeah, the door opens, the door opens, sooooo!
Yeah, Atlas has a really good impression of me.
I bet he does.
You would have some easier fights coming into it, but the weird thing about Nexus Princess
is that it's not the penultimate boss, but it's leading up to them and is still a crazy
mountain decline.
There's no free looping at us after this one.
Yeah, there really wasn't anything to, there wasn't any like pallet cleanser exactly,
like the Painsmith-Razzinal or Gorphine, you know, or Helandrus in the case had
him before really the fight happened he went a day and went right after that was
a goblin man a laundress and doing lords of dread right yeah I think Lord
Dread was like maybe a very very very slight palate cleanser and you know then
you go into raglan it's like oh right along to give us some of the best
screenshots of a bunch of angels at the same time it really did that was a
a fun fight. That was an incredibly fun fight. Lots of spot healing, lots of holy priests just
spamming heal. Over and over and over again.
Here's taking a quick break in between polls here. Going over strat discussion stuff,
figuring out what it is they need to do, and this is kind of what we're going to expect
for a lot of this fight, where we're still figuring out a lot of exactly what needs to
happen here you know there are specific movements for groups that'll need to go
down for you know for instance for that intermission that we just saw they're
probably talking about exactly what they're planning for damage cooldowns
for that shield because I'm sure that shield is quite massive I I don't know
if we know exactly how big the shield is yet maybe they have a week for week
or four we can keep on one of their streams but yeah it's like a while to
get through it will and as you mentioned the week or for it fired up
also had a week or a tracking the damage check that they needed for
Princess Kaveza, so it'd be great to see something similar so that we could track how much damage is going there
I know I know evokers in general have an ability that deals bonus damage to shields
Is there any other classes or specs in the game that have something like that? Dispriest does, but we're not saying Dispriest here
On the level of unravel I can't think of anything that's not insane. I mean like lawyers have still have shattering throw
I believe so. Is that is that still a big deal? I'm not sure how much that does it used to be huge
but
I think for the size of the shield they're running, the only thing that's really gonna do
is spam a bullet and increase damage to shields would be the above case.
Okay.
Yeah, I was wondering, especially if there's any other opportunities to change around
comp diversity or something, the reason I brought discrepancy is it's coming from
their hero talents, where they'd yield bonus damage to shields, and so with lots of
different hero talent and spec combinations available, it would have been interesting
to see if certain niche classes or something were brought just to help with the shield
breaks. The other more important thing I would argue is the damage vulnerability phase, making
you bring certain DPS specs.
Yeah, this is where your arcane is going to pop off. This is where your, you know, your
rogue's going to pop off, your evoker's going to pop off. Just 10 seconds of free double
damage to the boss in your cooldowns is going to be huge. Even Hans, if it starts
proccing a little bit there, is going to do a ton of damage. This is a fight where
Hans actually always seems to top the meters.
Wow.
Damage meter is there. You might wonder, well, what's in tech doing up there? Checking PC? That is not normally.
Man. Well, why do they simply not stack enhancement shamans?
That is a good question. I do not know. And it was one of the questions I was asking during Kaibasa,
because that was a class that was constantly topping, and I guess they figured they didn't really need it.
But we actually did see Ekko swapping the second enhanced shaman for their kill.
The princess gave us, it was Minnie on the enhanced shaman.
He actually topped the kill.
They have others?
Hundreds less poles than the other players.
They have Hardy who can play it. I'm sure Sevi could play it too, but they haven't been healing on the evoker right now.
But they have a couple other geared shaman options they could run on this fight.
Of course, Impact still doing...
It's just a solid bigger chunk than the next DPS under him.
Just so you know, 70 million more damage than the next player.
All good.
Yeah, no biggie.
No biggie.
Well, you are right.
That's crazy.
What about impact stamina?
No, they have a heavy healing on the evoker instead of maybe.
Yeah, that was something I noticed because something they were talking about doing yesterday
after they went dark was potentially doing a mythic first four boss splits on some
of their alts that didn't kill any of the bosses on Mythic this time around that they might
want to run next week. And a prime candidate for that would have been Zasevi on the Evoquer,
but I guess they just decided not to do that.
Yeah, that's fascinating, especially since our expectations at least, or that this boss
kill is going into the next reset. Since we had already expended all of our Vantas
runes on Princess Cabeza, there's a lot of mechanics to get through onto this
encounter before they start seeing the end of the fight with the best pull by Echo at the moment with 56%
Yeah, if enhance is going to be doing that every pull I see no reason not to bring a second one in yeah
you can be the only problem with enhance is
So the main thing that was
Was really strong for elastic scratch and obviously was one fury totem. That's now just a great wide buff
So that's not as big of a deal now
They don't bring any major defensive value to the raid, so looking at their melee comp that they have in right now, they've got Double Warrior, which is extremely strong on Cleave already.
Brings rallying Cryo, which is pretty solid.
And of course, it's just overall a relatively tanky spec in general.
They've got a Havok Demon Hunter, they need that for the debuff, they've got a Rogue, they need that for a traffic poison.
And...
What do you swap in for the second advance?
It's really just kind of like a too many good things to have in the raid question.
But I feel like if it's going to do that much damage, you have to find a way to get a second one in.
Right. And that could be something that are keeping in the back of their minds.
Is what if we have another Enhance at the ready, but maybe they need to do a little more of the plus.
Maybe we just get to gear it up a little bit more with the next Reclear.
Because maybe they got a couple pieces, but not enough to be as powerful as what we have in the raid right now.
Also, I do want to mention a couple questions coming in from chat about where the health
bar is for the boss that we usually have in the little frame at the bottom of the screen.
I believe we're still working on it, you know, this is a new boss, so we're getting
everything nice and coordinated before we throw it up there, so don't worry, it is coming.
Trust in our production team.
Chances are, if there's ever something that's not on screen that's usually on
screen, they're trying to make it work for a new encounter or something.
Yeah.
Yes.
Let them work through it.
I don't believe we also have the other phase markers as well, right?
And so that takes a little bit of time to make sure that you can instantly have these things updated.
It's not somebody behind the screens pushing the button to push it to the next phase.
They're automating it. They're creating it.
I thought Warchemp was typing in the HP every time.
Yeah, he's sitting there manually updating it, percentage point by percentage point.
That'd be a cool job.
That'd be a horrible job.
Oh my goodness.
The deaths used to be manual on MDI.
I don't know if anyone other reason. Oh, yeah, I remember I remember that I remember that sound fun
The instantaneous math of like oh, I actually had five deaths instead of four deaths after make sure you get that all set up
Oh, yeah, I remember when we when we were in person and Columbus back in the day at MLB
We would do replay ops for the
For the show it was fun because we would sit in the control room
We had like the scoreboard guy to our left and you can look at the scoreboard and every time a death happened button press
Bob. Oh, but what if they miss one?
Well, I see a couple times that they added too many and they had to like use subtraction really fast
They're like spam the button really quick. Yeah. Oh, that's good times. As you can see, they're still keep coordinating
It's still actually figuring out some of the positioning. Well, there's some of this stress
I think that naturally happens from chatters at times like oh like that goes ahead in the race now like oh, man
Like one of the biggest things I'd point out is that there's the expectation of the East unless they're
Crazy low amounts of boss health, but it doesn't seem to be the case
This goes into the next reset and that this is really where the marathon begins
This is really where the execution for every little bit of this strategy
Positioning of voiding having unnecessary wipes voiding having orbs detonating
makes a massive impact and so the progression and the work they're doing
right now is paying dividends later on when they re-clear on Tuesday when
they're getting all their other splits done and then when they're hopping back
into the boss. There's a lot of ground to be gained for any of the top three
guilds through the sheer execution of these mechanics as opposed to Princess
Cavesa where sometimes you'd have to like roll the dice get a good pull.
Yeah I just had like a brief moment of clarity when you said this is where
the marathon begins. You're actually so right.
Ah, these last two bosses are going to be very difficult, I think on the pace, on the
par with Nexus Princess, I mean that boss was difficult in a different way to this boss
I think. Right.
I mean, like you said, mechanically this is going to be extremely hard to learn for
all 20 players. The movement is going to be extremely choreographed, so if there's ever
a person out of place that's going to mess with someone else's movement, it could cause
you to get hit by one of the frontals in that first intermission, it could cause you
to get hit by one of the circles in the second intermission from the beetle doing
the earthquakes. Kind of similar to Siegecrafter from back in the day. It's going to be
very planned out, and they're going to have to be very meticulous with the way
they set up. They will. And, you have to keep in mind that each of these phases
is slightly different. As opposed to Nexus Princess Kaiveza, which had basically two phases
that would cycle between, and be the exact same thing on repeat until you get into the
final intermission burn, each of these phases adds an additional mechanic. In the first
phase, we were seeing the clothesline for the beetle getting added into the mix. In
the second phase, we're dealing with the stinging swarm that must be dispelled to disorient
the boss. Then later on to the encounter, they're combining both of those in the
same exact phase with a lot more to dodge coming from the void webs which were featured
in the intermission phase as well.
Look at the size of the amount of different abilities that are tracked in their time lock
there.
On other fights we saw like 3 or 4 abilities, on this one there's like 12.
The max cutout directly behind Boomi, that's menacing.
Just standing there.
That's actually max, it just looks like a cutout.
Oh my bad you're right.
sorry it's hard to tell sometimes yeah I can't tell which one is the real
we looks genuinely terrified I mean I would too of no lurking behind me it's
a lurking behind me a bit of a jump scare yeah also keep in mind this fight
could have less pulls the Nexus Princess Kaveza but be a much more
difficult to counter I'll let you more time-consuming encounter to the
longer fight so similar to Brutus or open axe even if they have the
same amount of Poles as Nexus Princess. They could spend an extra few hours in progress time on this boss,
because you have to remember the first 150 or so Poles on Nexus Princess were all like two or three minute Poles.
Mm-hmm. And on this fight, it looks like phase one is not really going to be the brunt of their concerns.
We've already been seeing them getting out of that first phase pretty easily.
We've already been seeing Echo method getting out of that first phase more consistently as well.
And it seems like the beginning of the fight is going to be the exact same every single time.
You're not gonna have to really worry too much about, okay, the boss jumped here, the boss jumped there.
It's going to be about the exact same every single time, which places even greater importance
for them mapping out their positioning for when they get to the second phase,
or when they get into the next intermission after that, or the final phase,
because there is going to be fewer and fewer attempts at that to get it right once you get there,
and that all eats up the precious raid time.
I mean, presumably they've got a lot of timers for this fight.
They must have seen a majority of it last night yeah in order to have the timers that they have other otherwise it'd be
How would they even know if those timers work if they are heroic are they for mythic?
They must have a good plan set in motion because I've been talking for a while here. They might be talking about the next phase
I don't know
Could we it would actually be nice to hear what they're talking about right now?
Never mind their point
They just heard what you said. They're like no no no no no no monster energy listen in just yet
Yeah, I would be interested to know what they've been discussing because you guys
already said there's a lot, lots of work through but I mean you know the bulk of
the mechanics I was saying this this morning the bulk of the mechanics you're
gonna see throughout the fight are kind of in the beginning front-loaded a bit
so once you once we have that consistency I expect to see some pretty
chunky progression for this morning in YAR beautiful H-bar production
energy bars as well.
Dove.
The chat.
The production.
Parts of the chat.
For production.
Oh yeah, some, uh, throw that.
What does it call, what does it call, is it type, type shit?
E-mail?
Yeah, let's, let's throw that in.
We also have that as well.
The alternating energy bars.
That is some fancy tech right there.
Yeah.
New tech.
Takash, which is the tall spindly guy.
Yep.
He has the blue energy bar on the bottom left.
Yep.
And then a noobs-a-rath, which is the little beetle
looking dude, has the orange energy bar.
a long boy in beetle yes orange energy bar is of course for the charge mechanic
it's not mistaken and the blue bar is for hoping you would know this phase I
don't actually know what the blue bar is for I'm pretty sure that this is going
to be leading to the intermission phase for Tkach all the keeping an eye
under that just to make sure it's one of those things where you like know
what the mechanics that are going to be happening and then you just try to
remember the trigger exactly for it because you're usually looking at
Boss timers and not really the energy levels. Well, let's let's see. Oh, it might just be the time for the intermission
Yeah, I think you're right. Is it's either HP based or time based?
And I want to say that it's time-based because I don't think there's too many
Especially if they were bringing in a reduced raid size and having that reduced raid size
Testing out deeper into the encounter then there's even less likelihood that it would be health-based
Oh, no, no what I meant is it can be either whichever one triggers first
Oh, that is fascinating. I think it auto pushes at 75, it auto intermissions at 75.
Ah, the blue bar might just be it saying, okay, that's enough P1, time for the intermission.
That's fair. I think one of the additional challenges here is that
when you try to build the fight to be the same thing every single time,
it's also dependent on everyone's positioning as well.
All right, well let's head into the comms, see what they're listening to,
see what they're talking about, we're gonna listen to them with a monster energy listening.
it.
The boss has a priority probably.
We'll see if we can raise the end of the ball, so if you have any, Rick, you're good.
No, I left for the two in the corner, but someone swiped them like 0.1 before me, so
we were two going for both of them.
So everyone doesn't need to go to the corner, right?
It should be like a couple.
If there's anything you guys can do well, it's making sure that these, that these
soaps are like exactly consistent and always the same.
I feel like normally like four or five in the corner, so we need at least like three going for the corner
But that's correct
There will always be that many in the corner because Excel and I are getting the bomb and there's three people dropping venomous rain there
So there should be five. I mean on that soak everyone can pre-spread to the right because the venomous rain is like
five seconds before rotate so everyone every male is used try to
Like sweep while running right and if you get to use they still yeah
Okay, we go I wish the orbs had like a Hollanderous level animation above them
That showed when they are blowing up like a timer because that would make this that specific part 10 times easier because you just soak the priority bombs
You know you'd have infinite time to do the other one you literally let your debuff reset to soak the next ones
They have that sword graphic falling, but it's no one years to see we are rotating in just kidding
three two one now there's a frontal in five blue team I would like big week's
change after this poll just and all I need to talk about big weeks and we
go down as well to someone remind me it rain rotating soon three two one this
one fall roll blue I'll get it oh my god I risk out yep it gets the new
positions being ad spawns in five and into a venomous rain these ads need to
instantly get in make sure you're close enough range like barrage yeah I get these
ads under and spread for rain nice we're not rotating yet start looking at the
orbs we're rotating in three two one now go orbs are blowing up in six five
Five, four, three, two, one, good.
I'm sure I'd, I mean, should go to your spots if you can early.
The room for people to go in the mid.
Yep.
Sorry, going to the red ones?
Oh, that's, that's coming through.
They're in diamond, yeah.
Yeah.
A little big spread.
Yep.
And you're rotating.
For sure.
I'll just like, I'll just stay right, yeah.
I'm just gonna, yeah.
There's more of what was left there.
down a healer here, it doesn't matter, either if you have assist you'd probably be good to
mark that line, move diamond, wasn't so big, on to the right, on to the right,
that should do it, it'll still make you two, yeah the range you will have to get used
to the lineups, which line did you say, it's little, purple's way off, like five
I'll just, like here, I'll give you a second.
It's a little puppy on your sides, puppy on your sides.
On your sides.
Yeah, go to your sides, guys, get together, get together, get together.
We're doing web vortexes, and then give it to your web bomb partners if they're still alive.
First group that gets sucked goes hard right, hard left.
Second group goes forward left, forward left.
Reds first.
Good.
Blue's there, forward right, forward left.
Good.
Explode up.
Explode up, so portents
So forks, they're blowing up in five
Okay, teleboss is teleporting and we're going middle and then we do you guys see dispelled reminders away
Do you guys see you were getting dispelled next yeah
Like I'm the pressure mic or something for this ball hasn't been added yet
Yeah, that means there's two people or there's like one in front of you as soon as you're one it says to spell get the
Spell now we should actually just look at a vaude and have everyone see that
You know what it looks like if we can get a vaude from that pull of both the like you are getting dispelled next and you are getting
Dispelled right now thing just so you can see what that looks like and I just want to see what it looks like for them
So we can see this right away. It's good suckers
It hasn't been the first few times there, but for sure last time it was blue. It's like first. Yeah, blue is good ones
Yeah, it's just yeah, you just a first group to get sucked. We talked about it. Yeah, it's just not all the same
Okay, so we're soaking this we're getting out of the phase
Okay to spell debuffs
He gets to dispel it says get dispelled now. It's in the your week or is our fucking cursed
Yes, you don't want your recourse look like that the get this all things should be like right on top of your character
But that means like you should be under the boss as soon as possible
But you don't see it because it's under all of your bigwigs
Okay, and then who had it next year so it should be saying saying to be mine was spell for
That's what it is. And then when people
If you die with it it'll just like go on the boss that's by why it was oh thanks to fell for the niche wait these lists are
It's because some people grow the list upwards and some downwards.
Oh, I got it. So, Drinako is second. I don't have Drinako's PV, fuck.
Yeah. Yeah, but like once Pumi gets the spell, Drinako's one will say the spell now and thanks,
we'll say the spell three. Okay.
Yeah, it said two for me and since you know, got the spell, did you know as well?
Sure. Good. Do we know... All right, good. So, you guys having the list and also having
the number on front of your character is probably something you want to move and
just make sure you can see how it works.
But I think the dispel timing is like macro is good,
but I could also see a world where we actually
have five exact fight times where we want the dispels to happen,
and we just put those in the weak ores,
and it literally just counts down for them to move under,
and it just assigns a healer's data spell in order
rather than the macro, right?
And it's just like you're just expected
to be under the boss at that point,
and you just decide when you want them to optimize
the damage amps. Or go as fast as you need to go.
I made that already before we pulled the boss, but that leads to a macro thing?
No, the exact fight time.
Oh, good.
The solid damage amp per stack, so you can milk. I'm on it.
Yes.
It also does the taking damage to the boss, I think.
I'm going to check that, since I changed it.
Yeah, also, I will change a little bit later, but I would just have the analysts
start looking at boss damage because if we want to make swaps you'd want to do
them not super late into progress you'd want to do them like as soon as
possible I'm assuming so we wouldn't want to have them come with less bulls.
So when we do the highway thing like they're soaking our orbs like while we
go around and then we come in and soak their orbs like they should be done
soaking before the blue circle ends right? They can be or they can just come
back and soak them after there's a ton of time because you're just you're
correct spot to go back to the boss is just like right where their orbs are so
you don't you don't have to soak them on the way out you can there's only 10 of
them between 20 of you so everyone only needs to soak one or five of you could
soak two it is extremely easy in that phase like the the team that gets sucked
and goes to the right they have to like exclusively go back and soak the other
people's orbs after but you can soak before or after if you're the second
group it doesn't matter do you know I could suck to the same spot or am I
lost on this part. What do you mean?
Or spawn, not where you get spawned.
They're spawned where you get stuck from.
Yeah, it's when it does damage.
So I got blown up trying to sort of blue orbs there.
We can watch it real quick.
I think somebody was just like a blue guy was probably just there
when you were going in there, probably just in the wrong spot.
Good thing to look at anyway.
Okay, so we get the groups together.
be with your, uh, web vortex partners. W.
Do you get, so red group gets sucked in first, ready right now.
So red group would go half year, half year.
They don't come in contact with blue ever. They just go half an apple.
Passion W ran towards the group. That is fucking scary. All right. He didn't wait.
Oh, passion W probably killed people. How did you not kill anyone?
Yeah. You have to get out fast by the way. Cause if we're all going to
start under, so if you're not out, we're, we're turbo dead.
How did they all die? Okay, but like now you guys fired up in this way so like draw with my mouse
So red goes and they go this way and then blue goes and they're gonna go this way and yes
You can soak them on the way out, but there's no issue with that
Right so now everyone gets out
But then now red is not blue is naturally on this side and red is naturally on this side
So when this circle resolves you just run back to where the boss is and you still have eight seconds to so call it
This fucking pass. I definitely killed my care. I turn out to blink and I got fucking so disoriented
And then I just stayed on the blue side and I was like just oh
Oh, yes, well three is on the reds three is kind of on the blue side as well, but did I do that right there in this one?
Oh, yeah
You're on the right side. I think like when you got sucked in you like
Instead of going the two correct spots for blue here are here and here. I think you almost went to like skull
And I think you ended up doing it. I mean, this is yeah, this is perfectly fine
Yeah, you did this exactly right and then you end up on the right side
Yep, the first done read every time there for us, but we all change because we did it in the 10 man to see the end of the
fight and the red group got sucked second
Like 100% red group got sucked second in at some point in p2 maybe it's like the next one though
the markers are supposed to be between the slices a lot of them are just not
that's the I replace them and I just went off screenshot so I just know purple
was correct I don't know what you're just like if you're if you're ranchers
that have assistant make your own marker this is where I think you just
watch it on the pv2 here like moon is like right in the middle of a slice
Just a simple look where purple was just directly a little bit but purple got moved to like here. I think
Was purple moved to the left over here
And an X is like two yards in the wrong direction, I think
That's not where movies music
All right, just you guys see him in the intermission just fix them W. Shit
At least the last boss had a consistent floor.
Oh shit, I got a hat and a monocle.
Oh, I can't see it, but it looks good on you.
Oh, shoot.
Hello, Randall.
Hello, one.
I will have your stars.
Your knives are forfeit.
Skewered.
Good.
Okay, web bombs in.
Discussion.
Three, two, one.
Now we're rotating after this.
Okay.
Okay, web bombs in. Three, two, one. Now we're rotating after this. Wait, we're rotating in three, two, one, go. Orbs are blowing up in ten.
I really need you guys to be good at soaking at the end of this phase because if we wipe for that, like, through out of ten poles, missing that soak, we're going to change our strats.
Because we can't be inconsistent if you want.
If you don't want to change the strat, don't fucking miss those orbs.
We're rotating soon
Partying in three two one now
Frontal now on blue. Oh fuck someone remind me again, who exactly pull
Me like I kind of a little bit there we can do that slower next time add soon
Or we can roar or something
Okay, ready for rain
Watch Ronald
Good
And we are rotating in three two one go
We need an extra web branch
So they're all they're instantly gone
Goodbye. Oh, we missed any of it. Bye
Big weeks big weeks big weeks big weeks. Oh big weeks. Yeah, so when we have frontal timers on big weeks
I wanted to say
Frontal for blue or frontal for red it'll it'll be blue frontals in P1 red frontals in P2 and both in P3
I just uh, I just yeah, that's press cloak late so it ate it. That's all
Okay. Yeah, but I was still confused on one other thing though. So how many orbs we spawn here?
Funny we spawned extra red orbs. That's why that's right someone goofed
Oh, well that didn't spawn the extra, they spawned two extra orbs. Is that what your cloak does? I thought it only spawns one less.
Oh, no, it should only spawn one less, yeah.
So someone else messed up, it's not a web bomb, that would have spawned significantly more.
Do you just like it if that blue and red orb tracker has a countdown next to it that just counts down on when the orb is spawned?
I think what it should look like on someone's screen, here's what I think. I think it should do this.
So there's the thing that fired up has what you guys can see here like fired up. This is yesterday's fun
I think Nick and I clean
Okay, that's what I was cool
Like you see here where it like has the number the like red and blue that's good for me
I don't think I don't know why you would care about your own colors orbs if you're a player
I think like your UI should look something like this like
like, do you I should just be a big fucking, uh, let's say two, right? And it should just
be a number counting down of how many red orbs are remaining if you are a blue player
and that's just counting down and that number is super relevant. And then there's some kind
of like success where it's at zero and now you need to stop thinking about it and some
kind of like countdown next to this as to like how long you have to soak that orb
in like one UI package. If that makes sense, that might be close to what they
have now, but this would make way more sense than like the both number thing.
I explained how you can make the numbers, only show the number that you're interested in
and you can just turn off the bar that is not your color.
Um, maybe, let me see if I can just give you here.
So are these two separate week or is the zero zero?
No, but someone asked in the week or is channel, how you can make it only show
one of them and it's in this core.
Oh, okay, yeah.
If you only want to see one of the orbs in this will, is there like a, like
some kind of audible or visual success as if all orbs are gone or are you just
waiting to see this line go away the line well it goes to zero the number yeah
yeah okay so it's really play a sound when it's here I have 14 minutes before
start rating so I think I'll finish the display record okay cool well I
really can probably change is really easy to change I mean I can just
explain it again in discreet if you just want to see one number here cool
the link to where you sit about like looking everywhere in the week or as
generally so oh and so can oh yeah boomie asked for it and yeah yeah and you
can just disable the bar for the color you're not interested in or look
He sent me the shit right now.
Oh yeah.
Oh, you are ravaging it.
You are feasting on this whole soul.
And did Nebula hear my, he's muted.
Did he hear the big wicks thing?
I can put him brain-dressed.
Everybody, welcome back from that monster energy.
Listen in, if you're just now tuning in,
we are currently progying on Mythic the Silkencourt
alongside Echo and Method.
They've got a couple more hours in their raid day
over there in EU time.
And we are just kind of starting our day. We are currently on pull 63, but I think it's only the fourth or fifth pull of the day. So
We got we got a long day ahead of us. We're taking it nice and slow
Making sure the steps we take forward in this fight are with purpose and with everything that we need to know
about
Every single bit of mechanics of this fight every single movement we're doing on this fight
There was more nuance to it than we were really talking about there, right? So we had
certain things that we saw yesterday that they were talking about positioning, like dropping the web bombs, which is done exclusively by the red group, that mark of rage group, and things like, you know, baiting the beetle frontal, which is done exclusively by the blue group.
Yes. And the positioning throughout the fight is something we have to worry about for those mechanics.
It's an interesting bit of nuance, like you mentioned, that there's so much positioning that is adjusted, even seeing some of the web groups being handled by the red team.
red team. And so there's these alternating bits of mechanics that like
Takash, the more spindly of the mobs, is having a lot of their mechanics handled
by the opposite group to Takash. And so as they are sort of weaving between
handling these mechanics, they're also trying to build it so it's the exact
same thing every single time, so that you can get used to the habits and you
can get used to the patterns onto the encounter. But so much of being able
to do that is relying on the other team to be doing the exact same thing
every time on their side.
Right.
Even just one player being out of position, as we heard through one of those polls, you
know, they were talking about the positioning of the moat, saying one far behind, one off
to the left, make sure everyone's aware of where the extra ones are, they still need
to be soaked.
And it's even less time than we thought that they had to pick up those arms, right?
It's 15 seconds once they're on the ground.
You can see, there's even a nice little animation in the game, the next time we
see those moats on the ground, that kind of shows you when those moats are about
to go off, there's a little sword over the moat.
Yeah, we can see it right here.
Slowly approaches the mode.
When it impacts the mode, that's when it explodes.
That's why I have a timer on the screen on the weekdays,
but that's a little fun.
No, I like that a lot, because it also is a good highlight
for when certain modes have spawned earlier than others.
It allows you to drive your decision making further
as you're going to soak them, as to which ones you want to go after first.
One of their webs died there, and the boss will get hit by two of them.
So it's going to be a wipe and go again.
The boss doesn't get intersected by three wheps on Mythic that charged us some one-shottable
unmitigatable damage at the entire rate that you really shouldn't have happened.
Absolutely.
You have six players setting up these tethers to clothesline the boss and they're all taking
a ridiculous amount of damage while they're doing it and they're adjusting their positioning
and they're making sure they're baiting new puddles and new mechanics and they're
also taking dot damage from soaking those moats.
This is one of those things that you'll be looking at of we need to get through this phase very cleanly
And then once you do it's building the habit and the pattern so it's the exact same thing every single time
It's one of those areas where like you're gonna wipe a little bit more to achieve perfection in the phase
So that you're never going to be having wipes ever again, hopefully as they're starting to go phase 2 phase 3
Luna just wandered in here. What is she doing?
I think I startled her she wandered through the castor room a little bit yesterday too
really?
She's right behind you.
They're hot.
They're weird.
What the hell are you doing?
Aw she escaped out of camera.
We were just getting ready to show you guys.
Sammy's sister and she's a lot more introverted than Sammy.
She's more like a cat.
You kind of have to earn her affection for the first like four tiers.
She wanted nothing to do with me and now sometimes, sometimes in the morning she'll
get excited when she sees me and let me pet her and come to me the rest of the time.
She keeps to herself.
You do.
That's slowly built trust.
Yeah.
She's very sweet though.
By the way, big change in the raid.
Something we were talking about before that listen in there.
We were talking about they should do everything they can to get a second in Hanson.
Right.
Oh, look at that.
You know, I think they heard you.
Like you know what that's Iro guy. I'm secret. He knows what he's talking about. Oh, are you actually? Oh
I wouldn't be surprised if you if there yeah, there's a good strategy if spec does a lot of damage
Why are we not bringing it?
It's a lot of the double rogues double DK's as well. Was this our tank pump at the start of the day
Or were we also running?
This particular setup we've got Scott on the blood. Okay
We're running a boomkin for our mark of the wild debuff. Yeah, I believe that's recent change as well
Justing Bernadio has gotten into the raid on a second boss unbeknownst to anyone else
Don't know what he's doing here. That guy's been pushing IO this week. I bet wait
I'm not adjusted for boomkin players ribbons ribbons
During next princess conveys up polls. He was here late at night. We were you know asking him that what are you doing?
You know he was in mythic plus groups with Turkey and girl. He's like hey, man. It's push week
You gotta get some high. I get that. I know that's right
What you pushing bud pushing bud?
Good as we're backing the polls for the subcourt once again
You can see I actually didn't even realize that the webs is they're dropping on the ground
Don't deal any damage to you or not like significant damage. So you just stand in them in preposition
Yeah, that must be a change on mythic because they definitely are not good for you to
Okay, that's what I thought. Yeah, okay, that's what I thought as well
I was like I thought they would deal a tremendous amount of damage to you on heroics you would want to like not be
Where the the rain falls onto you?
This is what I thought
Here we go first charge boss taking increased damage for the next 12 seconds
Do whatever burst damage we can it's going to be cut short by this venom rain here
Which is going to cause another raid movement to soak moats
Make sure we don't hit the players of the opposite color and don't leave any moats on the ground.
I think we're all set. All the moats are gone. You can see we've got markers in the middle of the room.
These are likely for movement position planning in the intermission phase,
but we also have certain range players out here probably for baiting the next set of webs.
Should be coming out with this Venom Rain, which also means that we're gonna have a
Oh much larger amount of orbs to deal with because there's also a damage triggering event
That we have to worry about so look at the amount of orbs on the ground
Everyone has to make sure they get likely two of those moats to make sure that they don't explode
It's like we've done it
Do we have three web breaks to make sure the boss is blocked in its charge?
I believe we do and yes
There we go another damage up on the fight and we're gonna get into mid intermission
Shortly afterwards here. That's right
Right, love being able to see Nick setting up that Lifebind ramp and specifically marking
the players that had webs upon them.
He marks all of them with Echo, hits his burden and Brace, activating the Lifebind ability,
activating Emerald Communion, producing a huge heal onto himself that then transfers
to everybody with the Lifebind buff upon him.
Great way to do a tremendous amount of spot healing for a brief duration, which is
really what is required of you when those players have webs upon them.
Now we're getting into that intermission phase and they're starting to spread out
There's soaks of the moats.
It's been interesting to see how they're sort of distributing the group,
making sure that players are soaking two stacks while others,
like on the side of Nick, are just soaking or not soaking any for the first period,
and then they're trying to go in and soak two for the next period.
You kind of ran through with Hover trying to soak as quick as possible,
but ended up getting hit by the cleave,
but there was a limited duration, there was a limited amount of time
to soak those moats, so it was very important to get in there quick to save the rate.
You can see they had a little bit of weird positioning there as well.
They had some players out behind the group as well, so there's some weird moats on the ground,
but they should be good to go. As long as they get the soaps off on those, they'll be okay.
I think we are into the second phase here now. The beetle has rejoined us,
and we get a little bit of different mechanics in the second phase.
The first of which we saw during that listen is what was the pull-in,
which fortunately enough on Mythic only pulls in one of the groups at a time.
We were wondering, we were speculating the other day,
How would this mechanic work if it pulled in all 20 players?
Fortunately, that's not the case.
Don't have to worry about running into the other players
and the dead center or the boss.
However, this does mean that you do
have to be stacked in a certain way on this fight
so that when one group does get pulled in,
you don't get pulled through a player of the other color.
Drew, any player of the opposing color touches another.
They're instantly vaporized and are instantly
killed on this one.
And that was a cataclysmic destruction
for the boss dispel. Yeah, that was just terrible. It's much more difficult on Mythic. On Heroic,
you get, I think, 12 seconds to deal with three of them. Actually, it's 15 seconds to deal with
three of them on Heroic. On Mythic, you get 10 seconds to deal with five of them. So it is
quite dangerous. Every single dispel that goes on to the boss is going to do a large chunk
of raid damage as well. So it's going to be an extremely difficult 10 seconds of stressful
healing for the healers and you have to remember they're not going to be able to be completely
stacked up because their players have to go to the boss for the spells which have to be
away from the group and then of course you're separated into your two stacks for the markers
as well.
That was almost a Scott solo to the end there.
Good 70% of health he could have done that.
Yeah and a new best as well for uh...
Ooh!
We'd love to see it.
Personal best.
PB.
Uh huh.
confused with peanut butter.
Okay, fine. Thank you.
Yes, yes. Just making sure.
Crunchy or smooth.
Oh gosh.
Smooth.
Smooth.
Yeah.
Are you crunchy?
You crunchy, Jack?
Smooth.
That's crunchier smooth.
I would just rather have like peanuts on their own.
Or almonds on their own.
Just for me, the texture of smooth peanut butter is final.
Like if you're having a spoonful of peanut butter.
Oh yeah.
I'm cool with smooth.
I'm having a PBJ
There's gotta be some substance to the sandwich, right? I don't want that.
I don't want just a paste sandwich.
Were you one of those kids that put Doritos in their peanut butter jelly sandwich?
Not on my PBJ, but like a ham and cheese sandwich, yeah for sure.
Okay, yeah, cause that's the logical regression of that.
Like cool ranch? Potato chips on the regular sandwich is great.
No, I don't disagree, but it's funny that like you're like peanut butter jelly absolutely not.
But a ham and cheese, yeah that'll do.
Oh that is Diff.
Uh, it sounds like a cursed sandwich.
Oh, we've got a poll going for crunchy versus smooth.
Here, I'll put my smooth vote in.
Well, now I have to pull up.
Yeah, you got to pull it off.
Set my my jacket.
You got to get in there also.
It's important to vote.
You're right.
It's extremely.
It is very important to vote indeed.
Make sure you're registered.
Make sure you're registered to vote everyone for the election.
Not the vote for that one also.
In the meantime while these guys are getting their votes in can I can I just give a shout out?
I'm just I'm so excited that we've got the Chinese guilds back in the mix hot pot hero
Is that what they're called hot pot here up hot pot hero this guild. I'm so proud of them. They're a 3% right now
Almost six out of eight. They're almost gonna be joining the rest of us here
Do they have like a Twitter account or something? I want it like I don't know what they're doing
I don't know where they're streaming. I don't know what where their updates are. I
Only follow the coinbase leaderboard. Yeah, I don't know a lot about them either
Usually we have kind of a liaison to the top-end Chinese scene who talks about him a little bit,
our boy Nazda Cien over on Twitter.
Yeah.
We talked a little bit about them on Twitter yesterday, I saw a post about them for a little bit of insight into the Chinese scene.
So for instance, if you know the old guild Skyline that kind of disbanded after the last tier, they were a top guild.
Yeah.
A lot of their players have reformed to create that z-box guild that's in the sixth place spot.
Not sure too much about who Hotpot Heroes is.
Apparently they, we have, there's updates on Raider Aya, which I should have assumed, thank you Hula Hoops.
I'm going to go over there to Raider Aya, one of our sponsors for the race world first.
Of course they've, of course they've got that covered.
I shouldn't even have questioned it.
How do I type this in though? I wonder if it's, are they listed as Hotpot Hero?
Also Hotpot is delicious.
If you go to the RWF tab, you should be able to find them pretty easily.
You know what?
I'm just getting out smarter than left and right here.
RWF tab.
Okay, let's see.
RWF.
Press on this button.
If it will load.
What's going on?
Hello?
Load please.
There we go.
Another long discussion here, probably talking about positioning, talking about where they
drop modes, making sure players are understanding of where they're starting the intermission
phase.
are understanding of where they're starting the intermission phase because if one person is out
of place for that mode, it can kind of mess up the cadence of the whole fight. One player has to
stick behind to get their mode, might have to run too close to the other group, which means they
might be out of position for the next mode drop, which would be quite difficult to do. You got
any more information? No, but I'm looking at Raider IO. Method's dinner menu is so cute.
Oh, they've got like little drawings like this drawings. Yeah, look at it. It's like
It's got it's like drawn kind of it's like a little doodle. Like cute
Well, what this yam thing is is that a sponsor?
Sure. There's a logo. It's cute
All right, I'm looking I got distracted by the food. I'm sorry. I like that
I like that all the other guilds are adopting the making their food there
showcases well not that we were the first but you know what I mean it's just
funny that there's a common theme here that we're talking about World of Warcraft
and we're talking about food well it's important it's fuel for the fight it is
it is it done okay I'm scrolling let's see this is like an article that I'm
looking at right now oh yeah now radar is been keeping us up to date with a
ton of information yeah in progress they even hit us with some of the
information about liquids pulling yesterday which I was unaware of even
the you know we're here at the end of it yeah hula hoops knows more than than we
do sometimes she's like the eye in the sky and the whole radar IO game I can't
tell if they're on the in the Chinese characters or if they're listed as hot
pot hero who the hula help me help me hula hoops Jeff DMK coming in here
with that I'm pretty sure everyone eats wow you don't know that you don't know
Everybody yeah
They're in CN characters and okay, okay, all right
Apparently hotpot form from shouji, which is another one of our builds from previous here that makes sense nice
Yeah, that happens quite consistently with the Chinese guilds. I found is
12 or 13 of those players or so from when a guild disbands are gonna go right back together
Keep playing together and build up a new team.
You have a lot of pretty famous players over in China, of course, players like
Hi Melody, the huge mage player, there's like Anwu the tank, a little famous
MDI dungeon players over there, a lot of players for MDI.
Oh, sorry about the arena teams.
They've had some good arena teams in the past as well.
actually want to know an embarrassing story of mine sure but you know what I
can forgive myself at this point in time but back when I was a very green
caster sideline reporter I did that was very very privileged enough to have
blizzcon be like my third show ever and obviously I was insanely nervous to
interview players on stage and we had a couple of arena teams that were from
China and they we had a translator on stage I was translating the questions
And I was so nervous that all I would do would be sit there and stare at my card
Be like don't forget the next question. Don't forget the next question
Like don't stutter you know all those things like vary in my head, so I would answer the question ask the question
our translator would translate it and then the player would answer back in Chinese and then I would
Proceed to the next question as if I understood
Exactly what they said I like didn't give her a chance to translate poor girl
I felt so bad. That's great. And then I get off stage and the translator is like you didn't let me translate like wait
What do you mean?
It was so embarrassing. It was only one interview that that happened the rest of it worked out fine, but I was just I was just terrified
That one keeps me up and the audience was like they were what did they say? I'm sure they were very confused. Yeah
Yeah, it happens it happens
I'm sure you guys have moments.
I hope you have moments like that that you think about.
Yes, they don't.
I don't try to think about them.
No, yeah, I try to think about them.
Oh, OK.
Come on, I shared an embarrassing story.
You guys don't want to join me.
That's fine. You don't have to.
I'll give it some thought.
I'm sure there are some. Absolutely.
I'm trying to think.
If I've ever missed a Zyra or Jack, I don't know.
That's right. Yeah.
Yeah.
Hmm I carved many pumpkins
So there's a strange voice. I wonder who that was. I wonder who that was. That's a good question
Hmm no, no, that really strikes my mind. You guys are just so smooth talking
No, it's just you know good short-term memory loss. You're like, ah, like did that happen? Who knows?
There's no proof of it. It is good to uh to try and remember and then inevitably someone will like clip it
Yeah, and then it you know goes viral and
There's been a few times where one of my embarrassing moments will get clipped and then I'll message
an editor of that channel and be like, can you please delete this?
I'm just thinking.
I'm gonna be a wist about it.
Can you de-weed it, princess?
Does that work?
I feel like you have a lot of- What?
What?
They're gonna be like, no, we're not gonna delete your embarrassing moment.
It's gotta stay there forever.
I just have a lot of- You know, grip clips, you gotta own up to them.
Grip clips?
Yeah.
Gripping people.
You're trying to save lives?
You're trying to save lives?
Yeah, oh if we're just talking about embarrassing moments, I have one that's yeah, what did you think I was talking about?
Oh, I was talking about like embarrassing caster moments. It's just embarrassing moments
Oh, we're talking about a very good caster moments, but yeah embarrassing just moments in general
One of mine got clipped and put into a fronkin of expansion. Oh God same same. All right. Let's talk about this
So during Nizoth progress. Yeah
There was a ridiculous amount of incoming damage on the fight more so than pretty much any fight that I'd ever played on
And we were playing destruction. I was playing destruction on that fight and
Just the ridiculous of the miss of the situation
I just started laughing on screen because I'm like man
I really would like to drain life right now, but I'm like just isn't on my bars
So I opened up my spellbook and just started clicking during life laughing the entire time
Clearly wasn't going to go anywhere, but it's like we're just trying to make the poll last as long as possible to see more of it
So it's just this sheer ridiculousness of the situation that got put into a fronk video
I think as a as a player that is obviously as a casual player when moments like that happen with like
You your level of players it makes it makes me feel like oh, they're just like us
Yeah, you know it brings you down to earth a bit that even sometimes
Professional players have to whip out the spell book because they forgot to bind something
Yeah, I mean I gripped my rig, my raid leader at the time, during
Painsmith-Rasnel, and in my defense
I believe that he did not have enough movement speed to make it past the the mines, the big spike balls and everything like that
So I was like, I will grip him just to me, it'll be like five feet, and then it'll be fine
And I gripped him and then he kept on going and went over the edge, and you know
The thing about it, I always tell myself, is that if you want good grips
grips sometimes you have to have some bad ones okay shooter shoot yeah also the
shots you don't take that is one of the best soundfights I have ever heard and it
is part of my discord sounds that I use what same with my new guild it's Rick
going do not ever do that oh my gosh that's the concept or the context of
that see that's the thing everybody's heard that clip or the sound box for
voice line for some reason yeah yeah that was me oh my gosh yeah that's
That's, that's amazing.
Again, if you're a priest with a grip or a voker with a grip,
you gotta shoot a shot, okay?
You don't get good highlights with that one
and a couple of bad ones.
Sorry, but production reminded me
of another embarrassing moment of yours.
Which one?
About pie in the face.
That wasn't more so embarrassing.
It was more like shock in the moment,
because James was supposed to be the receiver of the pie.
Right.
And James, James went off script.
He did.
Right in the glass.
Well, to be fair, I think we told him to do that.
He went off your script that you were aware of but he knew the plan all along. Oh, that's new information
I didn't know he was told to do that. I
Yeah, I think so. So we're leaking. Yeah, good thing he's not here. I
Apparently James did go off script. I'm sorry
My bad. That's their line. That's what production is trying to say. That's what they claim at the moment
Don't worry. Oh, I'm lost in the wall. That's a wipe. Yeah, we didn't get enough tethers
We miss James too, but he's a we have lost him to old school RuneScape, which is a Harvard University
You know, at least it's not like at least it's another MMO and it's not like we lost him to I
Don't know. What's it? What's a game that would be a little bit tragic to lose him to?
What if he just went met he came in Counter-Strike Pro was like really really insane. I'd be okay with that. I'd be all right with that
Yeah
We used to play OSRs sir, not so much. I don't play it. I kind of I watch other people play it
I've tried it this year. I tried it recently. It was fun.
So, what, I mean, I played Rune Tape when I was like 13, right?
And I was just farming, Irving, you know, but honestly, mostly it was like mining and
blacksmithing I had a blast with. But what are people still doing and like, what's different
that they've added? Is it like actual like endgame dungeon content or something?
There's a lot of endgame content. There's a lot of stuff you can do in game now?
Okay. Oh, okay.
Because my memory of it was basically like, it wasn't about endgame, it was about
the entire journey of leveling up all the professions, you get like 80, 85 of the profession
and then it slowed down.
When did you play?
Like, again, 15 years ago, 17 years ago.
So like actual 2007?
Yes, like literally like way, way back, it was like that, it was the journey.
There was no end game, we'd run around in the wild, like take off all our armor,
put it in the bank, run around in the wild and just explore.
That was kind of when they started to put end game stuff into the game, things
like God Wars Dungeon and things like that.
Yeah, engineering a lot of in-game bosses kept putting into the game in 2007 skate, which is old school run skate
They kind of took that that snapshot from 2007 and they started just adding content to it
Which is really cool
Like which was a really cool concept and like one of them
But one of the reasons the game is so popular even though it's a revamp of an old game
It's kind of what I was hoping they would originally do with classic
But they kind of got hampered by the no changes squad
But they're kind of just now starting to do it with season of discovery season of discovery is what I assumed
Classic would be in the first place they would take they would take the classic game and then add their own twist on it
And they couldn't even exciting and fresh but
It's cool. It's cool concept. Yeah
Just remember there was like a pit
There's like much Vikings or something like that fighting around in an area and there's like a pit
You'd go down and then there'd be like endless bosses or something like that
You keep on fighting
There'd be little like breaks
So you would just have to make sure you didn't die for like five or six waves something like that
Then you'd have like a break and you could like exit get new items or poke barrier result
Yeah, I had a lot of fun with that.
I had a couple of the like guild cloaks once you reach a high enough level
you'd be able to like get this special mining access or something like that and the miners guild did that as well.
And then yeah, I just like badgered people to like tell me how to complete quests and they just troll me and give me the wrong answers.
Like how do you get the black arm gang crossbows or something like that to go like join the gang and everything?
And they go just troll me and like varricant stuff.
I was like I'm trying to do the quest!
That was always a weird quest because it was one of the only quests in the game that you actually had to do with another person.
Yeah! That was a big mistake.
You needed to have one person as a member of the Black Arm gang and one person as a member of the Phoenix gang.
Yep.
I knew it.
Trade weapons for that quest and it was also for the Heroes quest.
Yeah, I remember doing a couple of those.
It was like a Heroes quest where you had to stop an old god or something like that from rising from the shrine, I remember.
You had to stop the summoning from happening.
They're a few, they're actually a lot of those.
Oh really? Okay.
There are a lot of those.
Did I just just ride like 20 quests together?
Yeah, I've been described like half the quests in the game.
Oh man.
Well, one of them I swear was outside of Eric or something like that.
There would be a bunch of like evil summoners.
Oh, you might be talking about Demon Slayer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think my favorite part of that game is the dialogue for the quests.
It's so British.
Yeah.
It seems like two casual British dudes like having a conversation.
The game was made by two casual British dudes, so that's the opposite.
Yeah, it definitely shows.
Oh man.
That end, the other one that really sticks with me is when there was the wizard that
like robbed a bank and you catch him.
The wise old man.
Yeah, you catch him and he's like, well, what are you going to do about it?
And you're like, uh, guess nothing.
And then you go report him to the authorities and they're like, yeah, there's nothing
we can do.
He's too powerful.
Are we allowed to play landscape music, do you think?
I'm pretty sure it is a copyright free.
Oh, we should play the one, the one like, what is it?
See Shanti?
Yeah.
We should do that next time we're, we're filling.
Absolutely.
Right here we're getting back into some polls.
They got the tether.
They needed three different tethers to be able to amplify the damage taken onto the
bosses.
Of course the bosses are sharing health, so amplifying it onto that one target is
going to be incredibly beneficial onto their overall damage check.
Here we're going to be looking as we're getting into the first of the intermissions pretty soon.
And the boss teleporting into the middle of the room and you're going to see both of the parties.
There's the red team and the blue team. They're going to be getting up together.
They're trying to of course run as far from the last drop of the moats as they can
and entering into the safe spots when possible.
You're going to be watching for those moats that's the mythic mechanic on this encounter.
As you can see it's constantly spawning between the two groups.
Red team, which is Goof's team at the moment, needs to be soaking any of the blue orbs.
Blue team needs to soak the red orbs.
So you're constantly trying to make sure you're moving together,
so you're dropping all those moats together in a line,
and then steadily moving to soak up the additional moats from your opposing team.
One red moat a little ahead of the group, but the phase is ending,
so it's not going to cause too many issues for them.
Let's see what the positioning is going to look like for this first pull on.
I believe it is the blue team.
That is going to be pulled into the boss first.
you can see red team staying well away from the boss, away from the blue team so that they can get pulled in.
And then of course they will need to snap those webs after the fact as well, so they don't take too much damage over time from them.
Here's the pull-in. Oh, no, never mind. It's a red team getting pulled in, not the blue team.
Then of course the blue team will have to go and soak those red orbs on the ground as well,
rotate around, get all the moats down after the boss AOE, and very soon now
we will get into that cataclysmic cast from the long boy.
They'll need to dispel five stinging swarms on top of the boss. Here we go
Yep, T'Kaash going in the middle of the room about to have that big boom
You can even see they changed the cast of it specifically and all right
They ripped a master spell to make sure they'd have enough to make sure it would transfer into the boss
They have red group on one side blue group onto another and they need to make sure everybody with a stinging swarm is
As close as they can to T'Kaash to transfer those swarm debuffs on to the boss
Okay, and then now it's a rinse and repeat do the same thing that the other team is going to get pulled into the boss this time around
They'll have to snap their webs will get a movement for moats and then we'll get another set of debuffs on top of the boss
Here's the pole. Oh, oh, we can see they're gonna pull across the room several deaths
I think they're two people
Running into each other unfortunately. Yeah, the positioning there was very brutal as you had one entire team getting dragged through
The opposing squad instantly killing them and they have another round of debuffs that he just spelled
Once these debuffs are out, this should be the last of the fight, and if they can get those dispels on top of the boss,
it should be in a good position here. Now you have time when you get the dispel, and now you need to go to the middle of the room.
I'm also going to teleport to the center of the room, then start casting.
You have 10 seconds to get those dispels off, but of course, with so many people dead, there's no way that we're going to actually get all of those dispels off this time around.
Ooh!
That is a crazy difficult combination of mechanics that they've reached, but it's also a new best for them overtaking method.
Yeah, massive pull there, and of course we know that after the second round of dispells, we're going to enter the second intermission, where
the beetle this time around is going to have that shield on him. They're going to have to dodge a whole bunch of cascading sequences of waves coming out
from everywhere in the room, and the positioning for that is going to be, I think, quite difficult.
You're going to have to find a way to move around as a group and get to a position where you can soak the other group's modes,
and that's something I think they're going to spend quite a lot of progression time on.
What is- Oh, we're swapping some trinkets out?
Oh, here we go!
Hold on, this isn't Sea Shanty, this is-
It's not. The flute something.
Flute salad.
Hmm.
Okay.
I've never been put in a game where this is from.
Isn't this like a Caribbean area?
And we're ready to find a lot of bananas and boxes.
Sure.
Trust you, I don't know, Chad, anyone knows where-
Which area this is from?
This is Lumbridge.
Oh, that's right, with all the white knights.
Thank you.
A lot of those in my Twitch chat, too.
Hey! Can I make a request?
Yeah.
Can we get Autumn Voyage?
Okay.
This would be a really cool job to be a musician that just makes video game music.
I know who makes the OSRS music.
Yeah.
It's got a certain spice to it.
I would want to be one of the musicians playing the music.
Yeah.
Not like the composer.
That would be truly the job.
original two people who made the game.
Really?
There's always the original music for it.
OK.
That's fine.
Yeah.
That'd be a fun track.
Well, shout out to production for getting that one.
We trusted in Twitch chat that it was copyright free.
Somebody said Jackaxe even encourages people to use their music.
Every time I've seen them being talked about,
they seem very chill.
But like, hey, do whatever you want to do, man.
I like it.
I'm here for it.
Next, Final Fantasy music.
That is.
She goes, NO!
Darn it!
Yeah, Square Enix might not like that.
I'm Lich.
Ah, here we go.
Nice. There's a vibe in it.
I don't know what to talk about right now. I just want to feel the OSRs vibes.
Ah, I just enjoyed the moment.
This is a nostalgia song.
Harmony is another good one.
Harmony? Yeah.
Oh! Got a weak aura update.
That matches the sword?
That is Max with a sword that is one of our announcements from a couple of years ago
Yeah, we gave them sort not real swords don't worry. Oh, yeah, I know I believe there were no swords on set though
But we did not hand them to the raiders because every time they get swords they immediately start
Tending to whack them with yes
What's that you do when you're handed a sword?
Yeah, that's what guys do.
I think it's a perfectly natural progression, which is why we give them fake ones.
Yeah, you give dudes swords, they're gonna be sword fights.
A couple of people are confused about the OSRS music, just fine with that guys.
You know how on the Echo Stream they have the him itself doing the dance?
Yeah.
They give the default font OSRS character.
Yes.
That would be amazing. I'd be done for that.
Yeah, like they're kind of their secondary MMO over there as a Final Fantasy.
Perhaps we, maybe we try to befriend the OSRS community and that's our, that's gonna be our niche now.
We do have a Grandmaster something to kill.
I was gonna say, in play?
Yeah. We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll claim James as a Grandmaster.
Right, right, let's go.
We can still play MMO.
You're right with that, right?
I think he's still listed as a streamer, too.
or two so cheering them on as well yeah he's been watching the race keeping an
eye on to it shout out to James let's see what he's doing right now see oh
wow I doubt he streams though he shouldn't strike you probably get a lot
of fans over there hey here's the update that though new bests going all
around. There it is. Alright, liquid baths at 63%. Echo still at that 56.4% going into it as well.
Yeah, that's it. In Echo, both slowly approaching the end of their day here. That's how you were
looking at the time zone conversion over there earlier on. It's a nine hour conversion if I'm
not mistaken, to Germany for Echo. Yeah, so it should be about 8 p.m. over there right now.
So, quickly approaching the end of the day, and of course the difference is when we hit
the end of our day, tomorrow's reset.
Right.
This will be another day in the reset, so we'll get that extra round of gear, we'll get those
vaults, get those mythic bosses for some more loot.
More chances at some Herogre items if they still need those upgrades at the end of the
day.
And I think what's also really valuable is getting a more clear idea as to what
their end boss comp wants to be.
There's been just a lot to learn really of figuring out. Oh like what class is gonna be good for this?
You think it might be X and then it turns out to be slightly different.
You think you might only have one enhancement shaman and then you want to make sure you're bringing two.
And so that clarity of mind as everybody's getting more geared and a greater understanding of what's going to be the most beneficial.
You get a very good idea of like what's good in heroic week.
Start making adjustments there, mythic throws another wrench into it, and then the incoming reset is saying everything is going to be perfectly optimized onto this one.
You know, you're getting what looks to be, you know, they're locked in comp right now, but maybe they're going to see something a little bit different when all the mechanics are completed and then they have to push towards the end.
We saw that happen on Nexus Princess, for example, in a Swap 201 tank strat.
We need to get people in with less pulls, less attempts, and say,
OK, well, we need to go kill the boss now.
Start catching up and start learning.
All right.
Well, while these guys are poking through these next couple
of pulls, we're going to take a look at some transmogs
submitted from the viewers.tile.gg slash rwf-donate.
If you'd like to submit your transmog or your pet for $30,
here's a red pound in gin.
Love that.
I love the aridar skin, too.
Aridars and blue eyes.
What that is?
Yeah?
Okay.
It's a red draenei.
I didn't know they had a little side braid.
That's cute.
What is this?
Light for owners?
Oh no, it's just draenei.
Oh god, it's time.
Let's go!
Let's go!
What a song.
What a song.
Listen, ten out of ten.
Listen to the C-shanty too.
Can that thing go out tonight with a C-shanty?
Nine out of ten.
I'm the only one dancing up here.
What a vibe.
Fun fact.
two. I'm not going to go 9 out of 10 today with a sea shanty. 9 out of 10. I'm the only one dancing up here. What a vibe. Fun fact, with each loop of sea shanty, we get more damage on the boss. Yes. Yeah, we get a little bit further. We're listening to this for the rest of the day, guys. All right, what's that
Transbog. Yeah, wait, let's let's rate this one real quick. Yeah, we did. I did. Sorry. I did not. Okay, 10 out of 10
You're right. You're up. Got a nine. 10 out of 10. All right, let's see the next one
This should just be our transbog music. I think it does fit. It does
We're gonna get the next one in
In the meantime, sir team soon. What what instrument would this be?
Which one the one doing the top melody sounds like a keyboard
Maybe? I don't know. Is there a sound guy now?
He's a professional musician.
Is it a flute?
Is it a flute?
Yeah.
Is it a real flute though?
Yeah, I mean, is it there?
It's supposed to be a flute, I guess.
It's a computer.
It's all computerized.
Is it?
Yeah.
Got like a little accordion there.
Got a little accordion.
Nice little kick beat.
I don't know what that like, I don't know what to call it.
It's like a shake, like a shake or something.
That doesn't sound like that's describing it at all.
Yeah.
It's definitely a xylophone in the background.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You ever had the xylophone for like the school announcements in the morning?
Yes.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
You didn't have that?
The doo doo doo doo.
No.
Really?
No.
What do we think of this transplant?
Oh.
Wait we saw it chill out before.
There's a resubmission.
Maybe they changed something?
They didn't.
Hmm.
That's crazy.
Actually the weapon's different.
Is this the trap version of the song?
This is the Algothar version.
Let's go.
Oh.
Oh, they're turning it up, you know what show you're gonna get a 10 out of 10 this time as well
It's actually so sad that was the trap version of the intro
Memory is a heck of a thing
Six out of ten, I like this eight out of ten. All right. Thank you for your submission
Mission.
Daughter.
Cool.
Name?
Where's daughter?
Nothing.
Daughter is shadow melding.
Huh?
Yep.
Here we go.
Colony of squirrels for the Great Guild.
Okay, okay.
Uh, I'm pretty matchy.
Can we get a little zoom in?
Zoom, zoom.
Computer enhanced.
Sucker around.
Enhance.
And then go down.
Enhance.
Enhance.
Ooh.
Uh.
I hate this hairstyle.
This might be one of those trance bugs that looks different in game than it does in the armory.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Seven.
Get a five.
Ooh.
Daryl?
I don't know if I've been worth it.
I don't know if I've been worth it.
Five.
Whoa.
All right.
Even with sea shanty going.
Yeah.
Ooh.
My little Pally.
Aw.
Is this guy a brony?
Or a prony?
What's that?
You're a brony?
A brony? You know what a brony is?
Really?
It's like somebody that really likes my little pony.
Wait, are you joking?
I think he was joking.
Yes.
He can't be sarcastic with me. It goes over my head.
For us to have been online for as long as we have been and not known.
I mean, I wasn't going to be one of those people.
Like, you know when you say you haven't watched a really popular movie
and somebody's like,
What?
You know, I didn't want to be one of those people.
No, I appreciate that.
I love this transmog by the way.
This might be my first 10 out of 10 for the sesh forever.
Wow, okay. Yeah, give it a nine.
I'm gonna go for it. It's a solid one. I like the the fabulous title
I don't know if it's a I don't know if it's a false somebody in chat might be like oh, it's a full log or something
But I'm on it. I don't think it is because the shoulders are from Trading Post, right?
At least so it's really good at least not partially. It's not partially not at the full set
So we're on the topic of of these transmogs. What's your guys's favorite weapon enchant a legion?
I don't use them
Mongoose your mongoose enjoyer. You don't use them. No, I'm too lazy. I should I just
Throw on fallen crusader and all the day my favorite one at all time not only for the color scheme that it has
But also is the first expansion I played. Huh is that power touring? That's good. What power tour
It's like this meeting game. We haven't seen it. It's like a little in the orange
Flames on the weapon. Yeah, sick when I first started playing world of Warcraft. I didn't know what enchants did
I just know it made your glove your weapon glow and I just wanted it so I went and found that was back in the day when you
Had to like trade physically with an enchanter
It probably thought I was probably like a like a priest oh enchant and I was drew it and it looks silly
But my weapon gloves so these are cool weapons the pandaren has
Do any of you know how to read a tunnel?
No idea what that says. Do you? Nope not a clue. Okay, you see those weapons too. It's nice
Singular blade
Maybe we should check what the name says before we uh, I'd I mean I'm not sure what the name is that wow would let you put in
But I'd give it an 8 out of 10. You're good. It's like stomp us or something. Maybe
I've seen some some apparently it's actually really easy to learn how to read this no way
Huh, there's no way. We'll just never put time into it. I'm translating it with my phone from back here. I
Don't know what that means production. They're saying what it means, and I'm not gonna repeat it out loud or I could
It could be something bad.
That's a cool mug though. We're reading the mug.
Yeah. Give it a day to attend.
Yeah. Solid eight.
It stands. My phone is translating it as storm foot.
Storm foot. Okay.
So, yeah.
That's fun.
Am I reading? No, seven.
Seven. Seven I haven't said.
Ooh, irked. I like the name.
Waiting at the rogue.
Wait, I love this irked. That's such a great name.
Ooh, let me see it closer to the face.
This is good. This is such a rogue transmog. I love this. Oh my gosh. This is like a nine. This is amazing.
A little hand down. Oh this is so good. The weapons. Yeah the weapons are what we need to see. Yeah.
Those are like darker weapons that could be utilized for it but they're really good. They're bled to be.
I think they work nicely because it ties in the red. Yeah. I would say nine out of ten. Yeah.
3.6
Okay, all right
Thank you for your submission. Yeah, we call them a transmission because it's a submission of a transmog like a trans now
That's stupid. All right, here's court
We got so far so first on this. Yep. Yeah, there you go
No, we're just on it. This looks like way older to your shoulders
I do like the color as well the coin bit fan of the conservationist title to yeah watch what title
something on the goblins basically round up wildlife
that's a dress I'm pretty sure the chest piece is
inclusive the bottom 7.7 7 I do enjoy some autumn druid
Me too. Okay. Alright.
There you go.
Oh, 7.9.
Sorry, I didn't realize you hadn't.
7.9.
7.9?
7.9.
7.9, okay.
Alright, let's take a look at the next submission.
Alenovies.
Ooh.
Most of the helm.
Church of Crusty. I don't think you'll pay.
Oh, Crusty.
Is this a set?
Asymmetrical shoulders, big fan.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Maggar works a good pick for this as well.
It's been selected for it.
I feel like there's shoulders too.
Real quick, people asking in chat how to submit
teal.gg slash rdb-donate
or exclamation donate in the chat.
It feels like there's a bit of off-coloration with this set,
but I think it works really well.
This guy is giving me another one of the vibes
of the soldiers from Game of Thrones.
Yeah, I'm gonna give it an 8.8.
Yeah, I'm in the 8s as well.
I'm gonna give it an 8.3.
So it's all it offered.
Right, it's like, the armor was once the same color,
but through use and wear and tear, it kind of gets off-colored.
I don't know if you can see that a bit.
You have a rating, Aya?
I'm gonna give it an 8.
Alright.
For your submission.
Yeah.
Thank you for your submission. Thank you so much.
Let's check out the next one here. Oh, let's just not say that name.
I'm going to read that out loud.
Dude, it's going to get the same reported.
Uh...
This is crazy. Wait, his face is all red.
Yeah.
And then he's got the purple mug, white beard.
I don't even think that you need the red battle paint.
I feel like that kind of takes away from it a little bit.
Is this supposed to be like a mug of one of the uh, the Colt members from Coltism?
The Colt members?
The Twilight Colt.
Oh.
Yeah, I feel like if the hammer was like at the hammer.
Yeah.
If the hammer was purpley it would have been a little bit higher, but I give it an 8.5.
Because we just have the Jogol hammer.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm gonna go 7.9.
Get that, get that Jogol hammer.
Yeah.
It'll pump you up to an 8, but.
I agree with your rating.
All right, well those are the ones that we're covering for now.
If you didn't get to yours not to fear we will but in the meantime
Teal dot gg slash rwf dash donate
Get your trans box a bit also feel empty without such anty to it. I'm going to strike a deal
I'm going to strike a deal. Okay. I uh, I'm team anti sandwich love here. However
What maybe if we get to
15,000 within this block, okay, I say much love. I'm sorry. What are we at right now?
13 we're at we're almost at 14 Wow, yeah
So
Production what do you say? I feel like they want to play it regardless. I was gonna say I don't know
I'm not hearing anything back
Well sounds like they're playing a new special version
Does that mean production that we get the new special version if we get to 15,000 within our casting block?
Okay, so they've got what 40 minutes
no pressure no pressure chat that's the deal we want sandwich love new special
version of sandwich love if we can get to 15,000 in 40 minutes good luck that's
my that's my spiel see I mean we did say we were gonna hope that we were good
I
Wow, okay
Is he wearing undies listen? I only have one thing I can say about this trans bug. I've seen worse
I am so uncomfortable
Okay
Somebody screen shot that
10 out of 10
You guys you guys have to kill 10 out of 10 no notes. What was it? You saw his guilt name?
Oh, it's still playing with I have seniors.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Gosh, I love it.
I might have to put that, I might have to put that on one of my characters, whatever that is.
I'm being accused of denying Chad Dorkin. I didn't, I didn't have anything to do with that.
Gosh, why are you, why would you deny them?
There are, there are three people who have a moat privilege on Team Liquid Channel.
They are myself, the mailman.
Who did that to you?
and uh... gamertrop
who gave you email permission
i don't know i've had it ever since boston interesting okay
how do you get
email permission i don't know i just asked for it
it's right
well i was just curious of like the technical process of it you have to look at it on
seven tv
whoever has a team liquidicon has to have
uh... okay i see
but probably gamer
i asked at the very start of the race when i was adding in
you know topical emotes to the channel i specifically asked
What do we think about Morgan?
They're like, probably not.
So that's what we think.
It's no one person in particular.
It's a little bit.
But it's not his fault.
Get him, boys.
All right, it's my fault.
Whatever.
Sure, fine.
Well, look at that.
We're at 13,600.
We're getting there.
15,000.
And we'll have sandwich love.
But we saw this one, too.
I haven't seen this one.
Maybe people are resubmitting them.
They want a new wave of casters who want to check them out.
Maybe.
Hey, here we have Earth Elizer.
A noob from the Liquid Plus Guild.
Yeah, I'm trying out Liquid Plus.
I think I gave this an 8.3 last time.
Stick to it.
I'll give you an 8.3 as well.
From Liquid Plus, so I'm going to add one to the score, 9.3.
9.3.
Wow.
There you go.
Hold on.
Where's our Sandwich Love production?
Or not Sandwich Love.
Sea Shanty 2.
Sea Shanty.
Yeah, Sea Shanty.
Actually, can we play Harmony?
Harmony from the old school RuneScape soundtrack?
That's a classic.
Oh, wow, that was fast.
Yeah, let's go.
This is the trap version again.
I really feel like I can rate some mobs with this music.
All right, thank you so much, fertilizer, for your submission.
Well, let's check out the next one.
Oh, I love it.
Get the mushroom hat.
Bells, pretty sure.
Really?
Yeah.
How?
How do you do it?
We got the onion.
We got a trowel.
Is it a chicken?
I like the chicken as well.
No, I think it's just loot that you get from Delves.
Oh, okay, it's a random one.
Yeah, if you do the Delves that are like mushroom-based,
the fungal folly, I think, is one of them.
Is it cloth only?
Uh, no, it's everything.
Oh my god.
I mean, I already have it. I should check.
Oh, he's got the garlic.
Oh my gosh, I love that.
They'll not a garlic in a shovel.
And actually, it's called a pale.
Is there a title that would work with this RP?
Like, garden-mare mushroom or something like that?
Fire Lord works pretty well.
Yeah, yeah, I think.
Okay.
He could be the smelly-mushroom man.
True?
Yeah.
He could be smelly-mushroom man.
Certainly could be.
I love this.
This is amazing.
There you are.
Ah, 9.
This is a 9 for me.
I like it.
I'd give this a 9.2.
9.2.
Crime.
The unrelenting crime of dump in town well.
Ooh.
My forge's drain-eye.
I like it.
I like the mug.
Me too.
Yeah.
Wow.
And the dark theme.
Yeah.
You know what this actually gives me a vibe of, uh,
oh, what were they called?
What were the main villains of Shadowbringers called again?
The, what, the, uh, the Lightforge, the Lightfiends?
Yeah, those things. What were they called?
Yeah.
Oh, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh my gosh.
They give me that vibe.
Chat knows.
He does, yeah, I'm with you.
Not the Ascians.
Not the Ascians.
It's the villains of every single.
Sin-eater, Sin-eater.
Sin-eater.
Yeah, I think that's a neater.
That's the vibe.
Yeah, I like this a lot.
9.2.
9.4.
9.4, OK.
I'll give it a 9.
I like it.
Dewey.
Dewey.
This is a lot of set gear, but it's very good.
That's OK.
You've got the mask from Castle Nathria.
You've got the shoulder piece from Aberus, I want to say.
It's a nice little combination of cloth mechanics
that you have going on into it.
Really nice.
Yeah, very well put together though. Very good Warlock mods too.
I'm gonna go 8.9.
I'd give it a... I'm gonna do 8.9 as well. I think they nailed it.
I'll give it a 9.
Good staff too. Might be a sanctum of domination staff there.
Ooh!
Are you fat lady?
Okay.
I remember the specific like brand of trolls that had that mask.
It's like the Gurubashi mask?
Oh yeah, yeah. I like to see that. I like to see orc central masks. They actually work really well.
It was like a 7.8 for me. I'd give it a 7.5. Okay. I don't know why people were saying
flute salad is the lumbarish salad. I'm pretty sure this is the lumbarish salad. I don't know.
I'm pretty sure it's flute salad. I'm gonna look up our flute salad. Yeah, I see that.
the time we got the crash and thrash and Bayer there very good use of the
eight symmetrical shoulders love those is a nine out of ten for me give it an
eight six eight six okay I'm gonna seven nine seven nine apparently you
The flute sound plays in the lumber swamp.
Oh, okay.
Sorry.
Ah, there it is.
Ooh.
Wow.
It's an ash.
Yeah, here we've got, um, gosh, I think it's night hold.
It's a piece of night hold, the night hold belt, I want to say.
As well as like the front rope.
Oh, it's like a helm and then the chest from the same tier and I believe the same
here also has the belts the shoulders are quite a bit different wow yeah I like
yeah I like that they made him a redhead also yeah it goes very well
yeah it's 7 7 I don't like most folks to be honest I'll give it an 8 the belt
just is off I don't like actually weapon illusion I agree like adding a third
color is a little bit it's hard yeah you already have the you already have the
white the gold in the red or in the blue and is a little much for me
I don't know what color their eyes are. It's tough with the cowl. Might work. Yeah it is. You're right. I like it though.
I'll keep my rating. Well thank you for your submission. And I hope other people
are getting hit with nostalgia from this song. I certainly am. Alright here's
games. I think this would work really well like a melee oriented
model. It's a little weird to the castor staff going into it.
I agree. It looks like an assassin. Yeah, there's a little bit of
yeah, I don't know if I like I think it's the eyebrow or like a
face customization you can have in the barbershop or having
the little like eyebrow branch going across. Yeah, it is. It's
It's an appearance they added in a lot of these Shadowlands.
Not a huge fan of that.
I do like the blind eye and the red eyes combination a lot.
Yeah.
I think if this is more of a melee-oriented setup, this would be like a 9, but I give it about an 8.4 at the moment.
Yeah, I agree.
It's like a Hunter.
I think if this was the form you were in most of the time playing this character, it would be a really high score, but because it's a broken player, and they probably only see the staff, I'm going to give it like a 3.
Ooh, brutal.
Okay, all right
Submission here. Oh
BB
Open warlock is looking very warlocky got to say whoa was good with Dan's shoulders, too. Oh
earthen dwarf. Yeah
Carrying calamansi that's good. Get some rocks. Don't like the the cloak
But I think the rest of it works really well
I give this in eight point six
a little bun in the back and I don't I don't think anything went super
special with on here if I'm wrong I'm wrong this just looks I don't know we're
lucky to me only look at six five it's it's okay but DJ advertise get out of
here bro sorry I'm betting someone very important very important work here
All right, pause.
Oh, okay, there we go.
What is it?
Oh, he's stretching.
Okay.
Oh.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Okay, you guys might be controversial.
I feel like it needs a cloak.
I feel like it needs a dress, like a robe.
Yeah.
I think it needs a robe.
Yeah, no robe.
Very top-heavy.
Yeah.
Anything that on purpose, though?
Probably.
It matches.
It does all match really nicely.
the sort of wings vibe they've got the celestial wings thing weirding me out I
like it a lot actually huh this is a definitely a knife who inspired yeah yeah
yeah yeah France mob here think having a robe would make it a nine I'll get an
8.9 well can you go down just a little bit the black plate just a little yeah I
think they've got show other shoes on see that's a problem if you're trying
to do is elitath yeah yeah that would tie it together nicely I wonder if there
is just like a rat that you can have around the legs or something like that
you know unfortunately I'm gonna go seven point mom cuz it's actually really
good I like this a lot give it like an 8.5 let's hope the dogs were out
The dog!
Dodgy!
Wait, oh, this would be a rogue if it was a name tag.
I actually do like these rogue transmogs that are on like, Windwalker monks or something
like that.
Yeah.
You're pretty cool.
I think it can work on a Windwalker.
I feel like they're kind of similar in that regard.
This just kind of screams PvP edge lurk to me.
It does.
It does.
It's also kind of annoying because the Windwalker isn't even fighting with their weapons.
They're fighting with their fists and stuff.
Yeah.
And I think of the guy who would like whisper you after losing to you. Yeah, well you suck carried by gear. Yep
Not saying you are dodgy this is just the mob kind of reminds me probably a
But you might be perfectly nice person that means you captured a vibe with it, which is hard to do
So you gotta be in the AIDS for that for sure
And 9.1 9.1
7.7 okay
Rating for dodgy
Let's take a look here. Oh the insane title. It's the insane title needs more cowbell
Quick little alert that said I don't love the hair
That's the vibe and I don't think that the oh the eye patch does okay. I feel like the blue just clashes a little bit too much
The rest of the gold set up they got going on. Yeah, I do really like those the molten earthen shoulders though
Yeah, we still like the use of the leaves and the hair to tie it together.
Yeah.
Which I feel like kind of makes the blue work in a way, to be honest with you.
It's almost like Hercules bear an archer, you know.
But I feel like the hair was fixed, I'm not sure which color you would make it, but
something that clashes a little bit less.
You could be like a green, green one for it.
Yeah.
And the insane is also definitely not racking it up with another notch for me.
I'll give this a 9.2 red.
You don't need some more cowbell either.
Uh, that helps too, you know.
But I gotta get to some respect to the insane, my roommate in college.
Got the insane title.
Barely saw him for months.
Came out and got the insane title.
Okay.
I'm gonna go 7.4.
7.4?
I'll give it an 8.
Did you give it a rating, Jack?
Yeah, I gave it an 8.
I don't remember. 9.1.
9.1? Alright, well thank you for submission.
one here while we're still waiting on them to pull.
Churchy.
Other Xalatath inspired.
Trans-Blogger, I believe.
I like the straight black all the way down.
That also would have been good for that other Xalatath mod we've seen.
It was just like straight black.
And maybe instead of like shirts.
What are these shoulders?
Ooh, I like the glasses too.
This might not be Xalatath inspired.
This might be more like a Xalatath agent.
What was this?
What was the TV show that was based off of a book about...
Uh oh.
Angel and oh, yeah, uh good omens. Good omens. Yes. Yes, I could see that that would be a really good
uh, that'd be a really good setup. I could see that for sure. And it's also got the uh, is that a priest?
Yeah, it is a priest staff. That is I want to say the PVP version of the Hidden Artifact
Appearance for Holy Priest. So actually using a Holy Priest artifact appearance for the disc setup.
I don't want to jump scare you, but it looks like we're back into poles here
I
Get that a 9.2. George. How's a good one? I like that a lot also
Yeah, I'm point one also in the the first couple of percentages of this boss
I do want to remind people that at $15,000 we will play sandwich love, but it has to be within our
Block which is only 24 minutes. We have 24 minutes the hit song get to $15,000
What's that almost want to Grammy? Yeah, they ever make another season good omens
Yeah.
I don't know.
Okay.
Either the mid one or they're planning on making one.
Okay.
I'll say the same.
I think they made a season two and there's going to be a final season.
Okay.
All right.
They walked.
They wiped.
Back to the transmissions.
I thought there was like a huge break between them or something like that.
They were like setting up for a bunch of events.
There was a large break, yeah.
And then I was like, okay.
Where's season?
It's been like four or five years.
Apparently there's not another one third season because one of the actors got
canceled.
Huh.
Recast.
I'm just reading.
make good content. Great stores it in. Oh, this is one
something is too matchy. I get sus. That's a set.
Is that a T-Bose blade, right? Oh, sorry, the after the
off the author got canceled. Oh, sorry, I don't mean to
backtrack the conversation. It's the author.
Recast the writer. Okay, let's see. This is a chat. Is
it a full set?
I don't particularly care if it's a full set or not. I
I can be tricked. I still enjoy it.
That's the thing, I don't know if I have enough knowledge to know every single set in the game, and sometimes things just look good.
I do.
8.4.
This is a solid set.
Give it an 8.
8.2.
8.2? Okay. Okay.
Alright.
Ooh, Starris.
Fliction lock.
Okay, I know like we've been saying that looks void colored is Xalata, but like this kinda has that vibe again.
Can I just go a bit? This is like a massive Sanderson fan.
They're in the guild called the Knight's Radiant, and they make Starris the diplomat.
And then, yeah, she has the... gosh, it's a...
You got the glasses on? There's the glasses on?
Wait, like Brandon Sanderson? Yeah. That's the author?
Yeah, Starris is one of the characters in the second Mistborn series.
Oh!
For instance, the Stormlight Archives.
Cool!
Starris is... gosh, it's a term... she even calls herself this in the books
of like a something spinner, um, but basically somebody who's very bookish, who's very introverted,
or keeps to themselves, uh, she notably was like the planner and was always planning for all these
worst, you know, possible situations that could happen. I like these, what are these wings from?
Is that a... They're a banger. Is that like a store mod or is that from this chat, say,
the term I'm thinking of, I... I know, I'm waiting for it. Yeah. A lot of people are
impressed for you for you for recognizing that but I have nothing that
term that you are referring to yeah she uh she refers to herself that way in the
books and everything oh it's boydoll here it's cool it's cool stuff it's really
good I like that mug a lot I'm gonna get that in nine nine point five really good
mom yeah maybe nine point five for the uh I like when people reference things
outside of wow with their trans which is kind of hard to do yeah it's not
super customizable and it kind of keeps to a certain aesthetic through World of
Warcraft II which I feel like you've seen them sort of break recently with a lot of their trading post stuff, especially
Well, wow really needs is a die system similar to what Final Fantasy has. Oh my god. It'd be insane log system
Spinster she refers to herself as a spinster. That's what I do
Oh, I wish Sanderson is something that I kind of got into I was a huge huge bookworm for like the first two thirds of my life
But I've you know the past 10 years or so. I haven't really read that much
Never really got into Sanderson that much. Well, it didn't he write Wheel of Time
No, he finished Wheel of Time.
He finished Wheel of Time.
Wheel of Time was one of the series I just never really got into.
Well, it's kind of hard to get into when it's going to take you a decade to read the whole series, right?
That doesn't bother me.
That doesn't bother me at all.
Well, yeah, I definitely advise trying out Mistborn if you haven't already.
Yeah, should take a look into it.
Highly recommend starting with that.
And then they have a second Mistborn series, which I would actually say is better than the first one.
And then, uh, honestly no rush to start the Stormlight Archive because it's continuing, you know, I've read the first five, we have six coming out at the end of this year. Very excited for it.
Um, and yeah, it's a journey. There's a lot of little short stories as well that are very self-contained. Warbreaker is an incredibly good, like, two, three hundred page short story. It's fantastic.
Cool.
Why?
I could just shoot through that in a day.
Yeah, literally, like it's fantastic story, like super easily consumable, and then it's nice, because there's a lot of little Easter Eggs, where, okay, you don't have to read this short story of Warbreaker, but it gets referenced in these other books, and so if you know, oh, it's a cool little positive.
It's like a multiverse of books.
Exactly. If you don't know, it doesn't do anything to the overall story. It doesn't bother you at all or anything like that.
You know, you're speaking about somewhat embarrassing stuff earlier on.
I've got a story that is embarrassing because I remember it
and that it would not be that big of a deal for most people.
So it's book related, so it's topical to our conversation.
So did you guys ever have like an accelerated reader program
in your schools?
For those of you in chat who didn't have it,
this was like an incentive to get kids reading books.
So what you would do is you would read a book
and you'd go to your computer
and you'd take a test based off of the book.
And it would ask you random questions
about the characters, the plot in the book, and if you scored a 70% or higher, you'd get
a certain point value associated to the book. So longer books would give more points, etc.
And at the end of the year, they'd usually do something like, oh, you could buy cool
things with your points, like 50 points would give you a $5 gift card to target or something
like that. I don't know. Anyways, I was always one of those kids who was a bookworm
and I'd just get a ton of points racked up throughout the year. I remember for a
month I read Moby Dick. Nice. Which was a long, long, long book. It was worth something
like 90 points. It was crazy. Most kids novels are like, you know, in the teens. Yeah, yeah.
I would read all the Brian Jake's novels. There's like three to five hundred. All the
red wall books? All the red wall books. All of those were double grade levels ahead
of where I was at. And they were all very long. They all gave a ton of points and
they're all amazing to read.
And then once I'd completed all of those,
I, they had this like battle the books competition
that they always wanted me to join,
but I thought those books were boring.
And so I just like refused to join those,
even though I had like the highest AR score.
And so I ended up reading a book called Little Women,
which was like the longest book I could find in the library.
And it was about like, you know,
like surviving on the frontier
or something along those lines.
And that was like eight or 900 pages or something like that.
And it was a slog of a read.
But I remember doing it just to get the AR points.
Wow.
Yeah.
To cap off my story, I finished my day.
Oh yeah, your embarrassing story.
Oh yeah, I didn't like it that much.
Yeah.
It wasn't that good of a, it was an OK book.
You didn't like, we'll be back.
It's a classic.
But it wasn't as exciting to me as a 13-year-old
as most other novels I'd read.
Right.
And to add insult to injury, when I took the test,
I got a 65% on the test.
Which means instead of getting any points, I got zero points for all of the work that I did.
You could retake them, I remember.
You had to wait like three days.
Our school didn't let us retake them.
Oh, that's nonsense.
Yeah, they let me retake because I think I did have to retake for little women because
there was just a lot.
And so, hey, we got to have our last airbender reference.
Let's go.
Oh, yeah.
Do a lot.
Never watched that show.
What?
Yeah, sorry.
I know.
I know.
I wish I had.
adult but I couldn't get into it. Yeah I don't think there actually was a directly a character
named Azulon. There was Azula. There was Azula, yeah. I think Azulon was like a this was your named
after your great great great great great grandfather or something like that. So that's kind of cool
they went like deep in the lore to like what would they look like if they were also a panda.
I dig it. Yeah I like it. I dig it. Given an 8.6 yeah this is solid. It went to you know
Also referencing the firebenders into brewmaster monk with breath of fire
Very nice, okay, I'll get you all give it a nine as well. Whoa. Okay. Whoa, man. That name
alright
You know this owns
I like it nice
I'm just stuck on the name here nailed the vibe for the name
I'll give you a 9 just for that alone.
I gotta give you a 9 as well.
What a banger.
Hell yeah.
Alright.
9 out of 10.
Oh, we're back to Starris.
Saw this?
Your production likes it.
Yeah, I don't think we gave it a rating.
I'll give us a 10 out of 10.
Oh, no.
Dude, I might actually give it a Boydolph heritage just for those wings.
Seriously.
Very nice.
Oh, just flipping all around.
Chop, chop, chop.
Any other ratings?
Do you have ratings and stuff for this one?
I don't know.
Any other ratings? Did you have ratings and stuff for this one?
I don't know. We saw the weapon.
We're all on the 9's for this one.
Okay. Sweet. Saturn is the name of my cat.
Oh, really? You can submit your cat?
I might.
It's for charity.
Alright, we've got a hunter here.
Hair face?
Hair face?
I'll do a live desk submission.
Oh my goodness.
Cat!
Let's see it.
Okay.
Very fluffy.
That's my favorite night elf.
I like this a lot.
Me too.
I like the Bumblebee.
Like the double barrel blaster.
Oh, Bumblebee.
This is like a revolver gun.
Is it a revolver rifle?
Yeah, it kind of works.
Yeah, I like it.
Okay.
I give this an 8.8.
I'll give it a 7.5.
I can no longer see a bee in a video game without thinking of any of you lovelies.
I need to go play that fight, I think.
I need to go play through it.
Really, it's really fun production, says.
Good mark, though.
Yeah, it is a good mark.
Well, what do you...
Oh!
...write it, Zyro.
Solid, let's...
It's not standing out to me, is it?
Okay.
That's fair.
And it's also giving me, like, PTSD flashbacks to a fight that was really tough to progress on.
So... 7.7.
7.7, alright.
Whoa!
So, okay!
Salty!
Alright.
Coming to win! Coming to play!
It's crazy. These weapons, we need a little die on the weapons to go with everything else.
But this is like, uh, man.
They're also missing a head.
Yeah, actually I think that works really well.
I try to remember, there was some kind of like boss or like some anime had some like
purple lead dude that like was all like blown up and like flated and became like a massive monster.
It's just reminding me of that just like that if my brain you're talking about was it purple
What color was it? Yeah? It was like purpley or pink or something like that if it was black and red
It could have been a coup from yeah, right from some yeah. Yeah, maybe it was samurai jack
That was a banger back then
Rating I'll give it a
Give it an eight give it an eight the the weapons going a little bit off
I love the claws. I don't really love the top of the weapons or around where they rest around the risks
I don't know. I personally I'm just not vibing here. All right, that's fine. So, I'll abstain
I'll abstain. No comment. Wow. There you go. Okay. No comment from Zyro. All right, let's take a look at the next transmog
Also, real quick. Hey. Teal.gg slash rwf-donate. It is $30. I'm so sorry
You can't submit a dollar that does we got a rich we're trying to make money here for our shelter
And if it was a dollar we would never get through the end of these transmogs
So $30 and you could submit your pet on stream or your transmog ratings. I were just handed me a fake doll
Hey, and speaking of
Stormlight archive references and everything we have rendering. Oh, yeah, I love the big two-handed mace here
Me too.
I like the, uh, I like how their hair stands out but doesn't sort of take away from, like, the rest of the setup.
Yeah.
Really nice mod.
Really clean.
Yeah.
Before we get back into the poll here, I'm going to give this an 8.
8.
I'll give it an 8.
It'll be 9.1.
9.1!
Love it. Love it.
Love it. Just keep sending me Sanderson references.
To eat them all up.
So, do you guys still read a lot?
Yeah, I just finished a series.
What do you, what do you read?
Uh, I just finished the Powder Mage trilogy.
Huh.
Yeah, by, uh,
I'm going to double check if I might have just scuffed it, I'm just going to, I'm going to,
anyway, I just finished the Power Maid Strilogy and he has another follow-up series that I'm
about to get started, but then Race to World first got started, so it took away from my
time for reading.
Yeah, I still read as much as I can.
I don't read a lot anymore.
Brian McClellan, speak, Brian McClellan.
So I'm about to start Sins of the Empire, which is the second trilogy for the Pattermage
series pretty soon.
Huge fan.
I used to read a lot of fantasy-based stuff, so did you ever read like Shinara?
Shinara?
No.
I read that.
I think there are like 20 of those in that series.
I haven't done the Wheel of Time ever, but that's definitely on my list as well.
I'm basically probably going to finish with the second Pattermage trilogy, and then
And I think the next Stormlight Archive book will be out by then by the end of the year.
Do that, and then I might try to start a whole new series or something like that.
So it might do like Wheel of Time afterwards.
If I've pretty much expended all the standards then I can read.
Like everyone in their mom has read Inder's Game.
But that was one of the most nobody has read of sequels and side trilogies for that series.
Right.
That was pretty interesting too.
I never read those.
Which of the classics did you really, really enjoy?
Classics meaning?
Like the ones you would be forced to read in school kind of thing.
Or a kind of...
A giver.
You know.
I loved the giver.
You really catch mine too?
Nope.
I think so.
That was fun.
That was really fun.
Like somebody...
There's supposed to be like three people in a plane.
And then only two people are in the plane, the third guy is on the ground watching
the plane with everybody.
crashes into a mountain and they're like well the docket says you were on the
plane so you must be dead he's like but I'm right here and they're like no but
you're dead because you're all you're supposed to be on the plane
interesting yeah oh hatchet I was I didn't have to read that first but I did
read it on my own time treasure island I have to read that where some of the
least heroines you had to read for school most of them a lot of them what
That was, uh...
He was the elite in the Odyssey.
Blah.
Ugh.
That was rough.
What was, um...
Gosh, what was his name?
He was always worried about the phonies.
Um...
Is it Kitchen and the Rye?
I think?
Yeah.
I didn't mind Kitchen and the Rye.
Kid runs away from home, just spends all his money and then kind of just does
whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah, hated that one.
Hated it.
Honestly hated it.
How to kill a mockingbird.
Um, the bell jar.
Uh...
I think there was another one that was about like ex-pats in Europe and I think it was called The Sun Also Rises
Where like it's a bunch of Americans that like hate America and then they just go around Europe and then drink and then they just get
Miserable and they go watch like the running the bulls. I just remember everybody being like very unhappy together
And I was like that they don't this doesn't seem like a fun time
I was like 5th 13 or 14 reading it flowers for Elgerheim. Oh, that was a tragedy. Oh my gosh
I love that book. I'll actually didn't chat to it's to kill among your bird my bad Jesus
All right, let's take a look at some pets here
Get back on to talking about reading in school in a minute. I'm talking about reading all day
$30 boy cats met yours castor and Pollux
Aw, yeah, very green eye backpack.
It's very sunny in this room.
Nice.
Okay.
The over shoulder looks you get for like, you know, you feeding us soon.
Yeah.
Oh, but you'll see it.
Thank you for your submissions in the chat.
And you could submit your animals or your transmog.
I was wondering why this happens, Zyro.
Why is it that you can get into the marker paranoia fields and receive the buff before
the cast completes?
Did you notice that?
Uh...
So the field goes down, but you don't have to sit in there the entire time.
Like...
Do you just have to touch it and go back out?
Yeah, TG's already out and like repositioning.
Yeah, that's interesting.
Weird.
You're just going in instantly.
The second you touch it, you get it.
Yeah.
I guess it's a good change or a good thing that exists, but I noticed that in beta
as well.
Yeah.
It seems surprising.
is like a cast that I thought end of the cast would apply the cast is the time
that you can get the buff at the end of this cast if you don't have a buff you
are dead you go Kablooey that is true what language classes did you guys
take in school you're German German alerted you some bit of Spanish working
a restaurant yeah still know any of it hmm a lot I learned a lot of context clues
yeah but yeah and then specific words individual words here and there yeah yeah
you kind of picture mom in America mm-hmm my school didn't offer German they
offered French and Spanish German is kind of a tough language because like
Yes, instead of one-to-one representations of words like you get a lot of other languages
They kind of just stick them all together. Yeah, they love compound words
I mean in a way that that means you have to learn less words
You could probably guess a word by just putting some together
Conjugation is actually what threw me for a loop learning masculine, feminine and no it's on my drum
I think is what it was neutral and
Getting corrected on like the chair is like neutral or like the chair is like feminine
Yeah, her masculine like just broke my brain. Yeah, same as yeah
That was very very difficult for me to like comprehend at the time
So I did two years of it and then that was it of Spanish of German. Oh German German. Yeah
Yeah, so I'm a fan of languages you are a big kid was not not yeah, I am I just couldn't do it
I struggled I think the way that they taught it in public school didn't work for my brain
I really liked how I really liked my teacher though
She was great because she would only from the very beginning only speak in German the entire time
That's smart. She refused to speak to us in English
I was rude. It was also kind of fun because the first year it was like playing charades the entire time
Because she would help us she would like out like driving the car and like you know
Obviously, there's a number of like German words or English words that are like fairly similar and you can kind of like weave them together
So yeah
Part of it was like playing charades with the class and everybody would be forced to like work together to figure it out
hmm yeah interesting but yeah rather than like the unfortunate side of it is like
even if I stuck to it there's not really a lot of people like practice speaking
German with in at least in whatever bubble I lived in you know I wish they
would do what they do in like your people just like basically everywhere else that
isn't an English speaking that where you learn it from kindergarten and you
take an English class every single year like they should do that with Spanish
here I feel like that'd be pretty cool that would be great yeah very useful but
in the meantime we're gonna take a look at some more pets for $30 you
can submit yours here is oh Zelda and Otter oh my gosh that is a lot that's a
lot of energy love it I'm sorry they were able to stand still long enough for
real yeah well the one in the middle looks kind of blurry true that's a
camera effector that's good camera effect so me dog
they both look at their coats how are everyone's pets so photogenic seriously
if you look at take a picture of my pet and she's like yawning or eyes are
clothes now I can never get a good picture of my dog just wiggles the wiggly
boy she's so happy it's so excited love it okay alright oh my gosh you are I
love that's that is a perfect yes I love naked cat there's so cute
Oh
You tell you he's upset that he got out of that blanket. Yeah, let's go right back in I love I love
Sphinx in their little lot of sweaters. Also. We're really close to 15,000 if we get that in the next couple of minutes
While we're still on the desk here the casting sofa for
$14,806 we need to get 15,000 and we will play the new and improved same much love
That is your only chance chat
Do you think the new and improved Sandwich Love includes any of our amazing orchestral
sound bites from last night?
You know what?
Probably.
Probably does.
I'm sure those kind of shenanigans these guys get up to.
About everyone for submitting your submissions so far, $30, remember, at tl.gg slash rdb.com
or exclamation charity in the chat.
For quick recap, for those just tuning in on this encounter, there's a number
of repeat mechanics from Heroic.
Obviously we have to deal with some of the frontals and some more of the void zones each of the bosses are spawning
But on mythic difficulty you're splitting the team up into two groups
A couple of the players are gonna have some of these like ten out of ten or zero out of ten
Equal roast to mark how many players are still alive
There's gonna be a red team and a blue team and you're gonna see those circles around the players for the entirety of the fight
Most of the unavoidable mechanics like this rain falling from the sky right now
It's gonna deal a bunch of damage, but also spawn moats these moats need to be picked up by the
Opposing sides you see on the right side of big poppy screen just to the right of his character
He's gonna have a little countdown there for his moat
You could pick up up to two stacks and then you have to wait for them to fall off
If you receive a third stack then you instantly die and can no longer be resed for the rest of the encounter
As you can see once again another round of rain coming out
dropping moats and then the entire team needs to shift and start soaking the
opposing sides moats here we have a really quick combination of mechanics
so they have to run across soak these moats incredibly quickly before they
expire when they do if a red-air orb expires it debuffs everybody on the blue
team with a stack of moats so some of those that soaked two moats they might
get a third stack instantly die unable to be raised and they are done for the
rest of the encounter. Yeah, in addition to that, just every mechanic is also amped up in
difficulty, as is typical for heroic to mythic. Those webs that you have to use three of to
block the charge on a mythic instead of just two on heroic are also doing a significant amount of
damage to the players that obtain them. In addition to that, the pulsing damage in these
intermission phases also frocks some of those modes. So it's a constant dance throughout the
entire phase of players moving in a circle to dodge the players behind them
and also collect their moats. So it's a pretty difficult phase because not only
are you still trying to beat the DPS check of the shield but you're having to
deal with ramping damage and you are constantly moving around the boss in
order to make sure these moats don't explode and kill the wave.
Here you can see the choreography in mind as you're seeing piles of melee
players moving together making sure that they're able to avoid the webs
the boss is spewing out, and also make sure they're soaking up enough of these
moats so that they're not detonating. You can see when they're going to detonate
with those large swords on the screen that you see slowly falling from the
sky once they impact into those specific orbs they're going to detonate
and spread that moat debuff around to everybody. The challenge right now is
making sure the first phase and that first intermission that you just
saw is as consistent as possible because we're going to be seeing it every
single time in pretty much the same order. What that means is that you have to have all
of your allies basically operating the same way because when you need to pick up certain
motes, they need to be in the same location every time. When the bosses are dragging
in one team and inflicting them with webs, you need to make sure you're not getting
dragged through another opposing player of the opposite color because then you get
instantly killed. Fortunately, a whole bunch of those
modes of rage went off there instantly causing half of the raid to die and it's
going to be reset and go again but we've got some good news don't we yeah we do
have some good news we did make it to $15,000 with no time to spare we are
even over $15,000 a little bit thank you so so much everyone for being so
generous we are at $15,000 and $15,050 for our charity fundraiser for the
Santa Monica Animal Shelter, which is going to such an incredible cause to help local dogs
and cats that need homes, that need medical care. They're a great organization. They're
so excited to work with us again this year. And also that means we get to look at some
more pet pics.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, this is Stuart. This is Stuart on the Team Liquid staff. He is so amazing on the
staff. He helps out with a lot of the stuff that the Guild does. We love Stuart,
I love Seymour. Also, look at the big ol' light, it's so great!
Is he got a rope in his mouth there?
Yeah!
That's such an amazing sea.
No take, only throw. That's right.
Is that a visor on?
Jeep dog. That looks like a visor, yeah.
Got the doors off, you gotta protect the dog.
Oh yeah, he's got a little, he's strapped in, he's gotta see that!
Oh
Yeah, it's just it's on the the band of leaders like on the back. Yeah
very smart
Nader, I think I don't know what that
Name is but not aater. No
Ash is for those two cats. Oh, do you think what game do you think they play?
Definitely a watch and leave
Ash just leave
Is Ash also a leak here?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm gonna be the original AD carry.
Sorry to call him Marksman now, Marksman.
Oh, oh, oh.
At least there was something I got into.
Oh, yeah, that would have went over my head.
I'm actually so excited for Arcane though.
Arcane?
Yes.
Oh, I'm so excited.
As a non-league player, I'm like, I hope this all goes well here at Lore, but this
is a good story.
Oh, those are who-less pets.
The story is just a good story.
Those are who-less pets.
We'll get them back up there.
We only got a half a second with them.
Don't worry.
Stars
Yes
So somebody asking if the drops of the same on all channels they are indeed
They don't have to watch four hours on one stream. It's four hours, right?
It's been a while for a total yeah
Just for our source total so you can watch one watch streamer and finish it off with us or vice versa, whatever
You're finishing with one team liquid stream or you'd have all the different player streams up
You can always click on the team liquid icon at the bottom of the video player and then sort between any of the liquid raiders that you wanted to watch
All I'm all check them all out. Oh my bad drops ended last Thursday. Oh, oh
19 okay, although I don't know what today's date is it also don't tell me okay
It is sometime in September. It is a day. It is the day
The days it's been diplom together at the race for world first. They kind of do yeah
Yeah, I have to remind myself to take a moment and make sure I'm saying hi to everybody,
making sure I'm talking to everybody that I might have missed on the past couple days.
It's like, days go by quick.
Before you know it, you're back home.
Sometimes they'll pull me over to do an interview because we're filming a documentary here.
And they'll be like, okay, what day is it?
And I'm like, oh, tough question to start on.
Not exactly sure.
But if you're just now tuning in, we are still progging on Mythic, the Silicon
court. We are at 70, well 76 here, our best bull being 63.43% that we got just a couple
of poles ago. They're really taking their time right now between poles. That's indicative
that they're really discussing a lot with the moving through how to figure out how
to do a lot of these mechanics, which you see a number of them right in the beginning
of the fight. So just kind of working on smoothing things out, getting that muscle
memory down pat. Right now they're rotating clockwise, counterclockwise, excuse me,
a rather room trying to avoid these sort of frontals that come out from the boss in a rotational
pattern.
You can even see how tightly clustered together a lot of those orbs are.
You have to be so precise in your soak so that you don't accidentally run through three
orbs.
I think we might still be in a situation, by the way, where we're figuring out which
classes are still good for this fight.
Probably.
As you can see, we have two evokers in, one's odd, one's dead.
They might be seeing which of those is the better one to play.
right now still. But we are through to phase two once again, so let's see again how they
plan on dealing with these web snaps into the debuff debuff spells because this has been
a pretty tough part of the fight for them to get through.
Really has, and there's a number of mechanics all kind of throwing themselves out there
at once. It's very important to watch out for the stinging swarm debuffs that are
going to be going out in just a second as those need to be dispelled on top of
to caj the taller of the two bosses in order to properly stun it and whenever you're dispelling
those debuffs they also deal a ridiculous amount of damage to the entire raid, meaning
it's so important to be stacking a lot of healer cooldowns on top of each other to force
your- force heal your way through these problems.
Well they got it done this time around, but at the expense of at least three of their
guild members so it's pretty tough, pretty tough to deal with, but we got through
the first one of the phase. Each phase is going to have two of the main mechanics. We
see two of the web snaps in phase one. We're going to have two dispels, two sets of dispels
I'd say actually in this phase and before we get to the next intermission. And of course
at the end of the fight this is all going to result in some culmination of a DPS check
where you have to get the boss down before it emerges. So we're still trying to optimize
damage at some point. But again, similar to Void Princess, similar to Ruge Wister.
We're just trying to get familiar with mechanics first and as always the damage
will come later. It will. And that's really a huge area where when it comes to like yes
output for example, there's going to be the emphasis upon making sure they're
trying to adjust their positioning so that they can maximize up time for
when that time comes. There's always a little something for everybody to really
end up figuring out for all of these pulls. Even if you're waiting on a
certain like tank positioning or waiting on certain other players for
Ray positioning and optimizing them.
Every single member of the group has something to be focusing on right now.
Why did we just get handed instruments?
Heck if I know.
What are they cooking?
We've got little... I don't know.
I used for...
Oh my god.
Here.
Oh my god.
I was told Nguyen improved sandwich love.
They said Nguyen would need sandwich love.
My bad.
That was my bad.
That's the one I want.
Yeah, it doesn't.
No, the way around.
Really?
There you go.
Stupid jokes that we milked out of those watermelon.
You're just complete.
He's just waiting for you to talk again.
I need a high note there.
I'm learning.
I'm learning quickly.
There's our orchestra last night.
I need some more practice here.
Practice.
Sometimes I wish we were a little bit more separated from the players because they're in there working really hard being super serious very strenuous hours and we're doing stuff like this
A little demoralizing
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So all right, here we go. So let's say right there was kind of like this like we dodged here and they dodged here from their frontal
Let's say we did it correctly. So we bait off and then we get here and
Then it goes
Like the boss goes here, right? It would be in this scenario, which is the only one that's difficult. It would be
Blue left red right. Is that the deal?
Is it better just do we did so it's obvious, you know, I have something well
Well, there's a scenario where it's not obvious, right?
Like here.
Like we did, it's always obvious.
Because no matter what's here, it's always obvious.
It's always closest.
Like we're here where it's not obvious.
It's always both standing.
The scenario that I'm doing on the arc.
So what if it ports like this, where the boss.
So what we did there, this is actually how it happened.
So we were both here because we both dodged the frontal
from this direction and the boss ported here.
That's what happened.
Yeah, so blue goes for because they're closest.
So what you're saying is we actually
don't stand across from each other.
We stand like this.
Yeah, and it's easy.
This is really easy.
I mean, the frills just come out of each other.
You would much prefer to stand across from each other.
I mean, if anything, because maybe you just
want to do a rule that you dodge the frontal always
on the left, and then you'll end up
being across from each other.
Because look at the same scenario,
but just the blue group dodges the frontal left.
Okay.
And then the-
The other group dodges their frontal left?
Yeah, and then it's quite more obvious
what happens now, right?
Correct, except it could just pour here, but yeah.
And then it's-
Yeah, but I feel like this is still more obvious
than the scenario before.
Basically, if the groups are opposite of each other,
it's a lot easier to understand
where it's supposed to go, kinda.
Okay, correct.
Because if it goes here, it's obvious.
Here, here, here, here, here,
And here, here, here, here, here, but here and here, there has to be set size.
Because it equally makes sense for both groups to go both directions.
So you have to have a scenario where you fix it.
Or maybe the warlocks just each say left, right, and then they gate and they figured
out it's too fast, right?
So like you just have to rip it.
Like the, the only way I could tell where he was going before I could push my
gaze, I literally looked at him and saw where he was all boarding.
Because he looks at the right direction.
I mean, HD did right.
HD got, you know, I can actually show you your pub.
He like looks and does the fucking quick as fuck cast, and I just stared him down.
Oh wait, okay.
Is there any kind of logic where it's like this, why it always goes on the other two spots,
but it jumps.
It's random.
It goes where he's feeling it.
Because we're in the same spots every pull, right, and he alternates, so I feel like it has to be random.
He gets done with being fixated then he's doing a frontal
Okay, so yeah, you just want to dodge these frontals to the left
I can call that each frontal dodges to the left and then the warlock just have to look where this guy is courting
After he does this from what he looks
Okay, so he's looking that way
So you knew is there so red space and wait, okay? Yeah, but normally this would be obvious
This would be an obvious one except blue is just in the wrong spot blue should be here
If everyone dodges frontal to the left it should be obvious unless the boss ported here or the boss ported there
In which case like I'm saying this is a possibility one out of whatever chance, but we need to have a system for
What happens when it imports a direct north and south of it doesn't matter if you're here or here or anything
It's always possible for it to port here here, and we decided it's always blue left there right another case, right?
Yeah, correct. Yeah
Make sure you move left from your frontal you shit
Yeah
Yeah, or I don't know if he's alive, but I could see his beauty where it was relevant. Okay, so right here this
How did all these people done? Oh
It's a red or blue
Sure, okay
So it's here. The red group got there in time. This would have been perfect. And then the second group just has more time to get in position, right?
Except you guys should have gone like this, right?
Yeah, I mean...
I hit the wall with the wall.
Do you want me to touch?
I'm not sure.
Did you hit the wall with the wall there?
No, no, it's fine.
No, it's not.
We're the first group.
This partner just goes further right?
Yeah, we're the first group so as long as you set up...
I mean, it's hard to be with your partner.
like I mean well yeah that that's why we're getting a week or that assigns you
to go left or right when you get sucked in yeah I mean it's hard to tell you if
your partner there because it's just gonna be random if you get like try to
pre-spread a bit like it's fucked you guys is another field trip like for now
for now you guys don't have the left and right thing so whether you go left
or right you can pick either you just have to snap your web after it's a
little suboptimal, but we can play it. Then after this, we're just getting on each side of the boss,
blue would be here, red would be here, and then you're just doing a second dispel, and then the
boss is going to port middle. You'll probably do like two dispels before mid, but you're just going
to follow the boss mid here, and then you would move the, uh, a new barrage. You would
pre-move, yeah, you would pre-move a new mid, uh, so this frontal isn't at the boss during the
amp. That's a yip thing. Uh, is it possible to pre-gate away the protect spell to cancel
sitting a noob and we don't want to deal with that vortex.
So instead of actually making our way to Skynespinner there,
we just stay in the middle.
We just stay in the middle and gate the,
like your web vortex specifically.
So like you would just, each group would be here.
You'd be like right around the gate.
I guess you could just do it like this actually
to make it more easy to see.
You'd want to make it long each side, but yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
You just make it as long as to the wall.
And then you would all just, you do it in your rotator.
We rotate right, right?
So blue would gate right here and red would gate right when they're getting gripped.
Oh, this is this is way better, right?
And then you're in the middle already from here already.
Well, yeah, you might want to after this,
after you soak, you might want to drag the boss to her for Cleave.
But you could already be in the middle for the spells.
Yeah, if you wanted to.
Also, York is so good.
Oh, this is fucking yeah.
But like, I think this is 10 times easier to do this.
Ghost status.
Yeah, this is yeah.
Haven't I ever go to the wall as a bad man?
I would just get through the suck.
I think we're getting the suck, yeah?
You know you're getting sucked because the web's on your group, right?
And you just need to be mid-gateway when it's sucking.
Oh, you can't attend.
We're getting a week off of the casting.
There's a bar, but I don't know if it distinguishes who's first and second.
It's visual. You can see a web on everyone as it's casting.
I guess it's enabled in bars if you want to have a like a timer for the ball
I would yeah, definitely everyone shouldn't have that then turn that on you said the now when it's your suck which is what they call the web
We should
Called web or text. Yeah, it does to you that there's like two casts of the pole
It's two second long cast so you probably want to get it like one and a half maybe on your suck
I don't know if that's a good time, but
You can actually practice this
Um reset the boss real quick and then reset the boss real quick and then all of red go to red all of blue go to blue
I can't reset the boss
Hold on. Oh, yeah, I'll let him do it. Oh shit
I'll be correct for you because I'm well done
Well done dog. Good work. Oh good. We're just gonna troll today. What's man?
Okay, just die real quick and risk. We're gonna have to reset it again. Can reset it, right?
Ardab didn't actually try to reset it. He missed with his thing before he's greater
in Viz and then he ramped. I don't think you understand what I tried to do, but yeah,
I tried to reset it. Oh yeah. Oh, so in Viz doesn't work then? No, it does. It does,
it just, the melee thing doesn't work. Oh. We can reset it. Probably. Okay,
We will have fired. I've tried to do it. You might all die again. That would be hype
Okay, so all of red go to red all blue go to blue
All right warlocks you do your gate adjacent
Do your date adjacent to the right then teach you you do it from the group it get on your day
And then you would put it just to the right
way from the boss fired up reset it again okay I thought it was right you know I was going
to the red boss man I don't know what's going on okay we're resetting now this is just how
it'll be in the mission yeah it's okay fine we'll get to your spot if you're blue good
now warlocks put your gates down good and blue you're getting sucked in three two one
red reading suck and you get it fucking gay the web and then if you get if you see if you get what
we want to release we're on the car aren't we like turbo far from each other or is the
other no you're literally getting you're gating right next to where their fucking warbs are
it's like really easy okay there's just no web visual on that so i don't know i have to be
careful when you're still with them so don't dude what was the last time if we ended up
doing this one was the last time we did a boss where you needed at least two
gateways not like you wanted but you needed I don't think you need it at all
this is like overly hard for no reason what does one just miss is the gateway
dies I'm pretty sure if you got grip you could just you could just like look
and the analyst channel's role.
We want to just take that as well.
Or we decide.
I think this is so easy, like what they're doing.
As far as I know.
Like actually so simple.
Slingshot.
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Alright, we're going to have to hurry up for a while, actually, but...
I'm going to bring the level down a little bit.
How's Silkencorp Prague been going?
I think we've been watching polls for a few hours this morning.
Method and Echo were also able to down Nexus Princess Kaiveza around the beginning of their day.
And so they've also been prog in the boss. What have we been seeing from this fight so far?
Yeah, it's been something I think this was one of those bosses that when we came into it
We were expecting potentially one of the hardest of all time
And I've actually been impressed with how much prog has been able to to get made on this fight
One thing that has been weird as well as it's another fight where you can one tank it which I saw that
Yeah, it it seems like the piercing strike attack is just not doing as much damage as it would need to do to prevent
that from being a viable strategy, you can just tank it a bunch of times and then have
one DPS player take it once every like five and reset the stacks on your tank that way.
Would you ever actually commit to one tanking it or do you think that that's something?
Because I feel like to me that's something that Blizzard is likely to just change.
So Blizzard has already apparently hotfixed it to prevent it from going away on death,
the debuff.
That's not actually the problem this time unlike with Kaiveza where that would
have fixed the one tanking.
This time around, it's just that it doesn't do enough damage, so you can tank it a bunch
of times and then you can have a DPS player just taunt it and reset it once.
I think they probably just need to make that debuff maybe increase the multiplier on it.
I heard maybe it just wasn't working as well and not enhancing the damage.
I wouldn't be surprised at this point.
Yeah.
I could buy that.
This fight was crazy during PTR testing, but it feels like the damage in this fight
has been tuned down a decent bit almost across the board for most abilities, which
That tank that D.Buff like you mentioned might have been caught in that, but one thing we saw them employing early on was
there was a strategy where you could sort of stack half the raid with a color deep and just see the rest of the fight.
So that allowed us to see a lot into the fight, which is just that whatever a moat expires, it only kills people of the opposite color.
Yeah. And so you can progress the fight a decent chunk, like you can get the timers and everything with just 10 players alive, as, you know, we have had a tank actually die here.
here. How about rare occurrence? He died, it looks like largely his venom bolt is on
his deathplug, which is the attack. So if you're one tanking you do have to
tank both the Scarab and the Skane Spinner. Oh, is that the type of mob that it is?
I don't know. Yeah, well the Skane Spinner is the title of the tall one and
then the Scarab is a long one. Oh, okay, the long one. Yeah, exact. The tall one is the long one.
It does blast you for a reasonable amount of, you know, poison bolt damage.
Looks like that was something that I'm not sure if that was the the first thing that went wrong in that bowl
Hmm, there was one American style described the hamburger and the hot dog one, right?
They have
There's gonna be an interesting fight because there's like we talked about there's a lot of ways to approach this fight progression wise percentage wise though
It doesn't
There's obviously a first second third here, right?
But it doesn't necessarily mean you're the furthest ahead with the lowest percent because you can sort of similar to almost like
Fallen avatar in the past
You can see most of this fight if you do like they suck half the rate to the whole fight the time was hitting rage
But there's so much damage to make up, right? There's yeah 70% almost in these bosses
So you've seen it, but you're not anywhere near killing this fight at this point
And what you also need to know about the boss too is that the timers are like pretty static
It is so very very predetermined. Yeah, so it's a pretty determined fight in terms of like what you're gonna be seeing
So if you want to you basically can go and see all the way up until the end of the fight
get the entire timers and the entire script for the entire thing and then
pre-plan your movement, pre-plan what's going on because the major mythic
mechanic here is going to be the marks of rage and the marks of paranoia and
occasionally the boss does like this rain and then it summons moats that are
beneath that have to be soaked by the opposite color mark and so in addition
that these marked players can't be contacting other colored marks and so
there's a bit of a dance that has to be done particularly in the
intermission whenever the hotdog one goes into the middle and is doing that web
phase. They're basically having this so much of moting, you see them like
gating around and we actually heard during the listening they were talking
about needing two warlock gateways. Yeah one for each group which is it would be
the first time since I think a hoon that that second gateway has been like
integral to a strategy. There were some people in the raid that were
talking about not well it wasn't really needed themselves though it was nice
to have. Yeah. It didn't really matter. You could solo one, yeah. Yeah. But it was nice
to have for sure. But they were talking, some of the people in the raid were talking about
that not being necessary, so I'm not sure that that will remain a core part of the
strat going forward. One thing that has been interesting as well is I was kind of expecting
this fight to be, okay, we've got two groups and they just stick on top of each other
the whole time. That's not actually how they're playing this mechanic. They kind
of have a set of three ranges of each mark that are kind of playing near each
other and they're obviously not trying to touch each other but trying to be close enough that they can soak each other's motes and
Then there's the other 14 players that are all in melee of the boss in two groups of seven
During the intermission as well
You have people partnering up with somebody with the opposite mark as them and playing near them
But again not on top of them and just instantly soaking each other's motes
Which does make a lot of sense you do have to have some traffic rules for this to work out
But it does mean that your range actually get to be at range of the boss which is in your lane right now
I think it's counterintuitive to how you would like try to do the boss on like first attempt
Yeah, it definitely does make sense another thing that we saw that was different from PTR testing was the
The web wrappings that like drop on the ground that the you saw the players are getting tethered to one another
Those only drop on marks of rage
Colored players correct. That's right
Yeah, so you can sort of bait where those are gonna be very reliably based on where you're where you're 10 mark of
range players are it makes it a lot more consistent I would say it makes it a
better mechanic all things considered yeah for sure even coordinating in a
heroic your partner's not aware what's going on here it's a bit of pain you
also need six players three total web stuff that boss charge on the wall so
not one normal to her up and free mythic but so at this this is the hot
bug and mission phase this is hard this is difficult intermission is because
they continue to get a bunch of those moats spawning at right so so basically
you have your two groups in the boss and the boss groups are spinning
around and you're going and soaking the motes where the other group was.
And this is how I thought this intermission would work.
The one change is that there are a few range players that are more static,
playing a lot more like the Kaibaza intermission, sort of on those lines between the slices.
And as long as you have a partner with the opposite color that's near you,
you can then just soak each other's motes while doing that.
I think that makes sense too, because some of the ranged DPS on this fight,
think of like the Destralock.
DHT's not trying to run around this boss all the time.
and with like
I mean you can but like it's not optimal
Yeah you want to be planted
Yeah I think in general we expected a more
like range heavy comp looking at PTR
testing and stuff this is almost like a council boss
right classes that can cleave good council damage
whether it's warlocks or other just strong
cleave classes in general but looking at the actual
comp here I mean you got two DKs two warriors
a lot of melee in here
there's a lot of mobility required in this fight
right and some I mean
range have a decent they can sort of deal
what that at times but there's a lot going on a lot of warps soak and honestly
if those we have a time and they have to pay attention to the boss who's doing
soap mechanics or rotating around the boss yeah yeah I was thinking this fight
was gonna be very hostile to range because I thought you were gonna have
to be in a stack of ten moving the whole time and then going around which
would suck for like all non BM hunter range but right the way that they've
set this up to let some of their range players have a little bit more of a
static position makes a lot of sense to me what do you think the goal is
for today. Just to see as far into the fight with everybody alive as possible and then come
back tomorrow with a new reset worth of gear.
No, I think they don't want to make much prog. I think they kind of want to just...
Okay.
Do I just call it?
Let's go to our call early.
It's dinner.
Do you want to go barbecue tonight?
Chores that they still need to do?
I think they got a lot of chores done yesterday after they pulled this boss a little bit.
So there is some incentive though to make sure that you filled out great vaults
as we are approaching that reset. Although the M plus great vault kind of sucks.
It's myth one gear, which is not all that much better than just hero four gear.
You can get a lot of the hero grade.
You're not going to necessarily have enough myth track.
Well, actually there's crafting tomorrow.
Yeah, tomorrow's spark comes out.
Although using a spark, it's very expensive on gilded crests to use a spark with an
enchanted gilded crest, right?
You're paying 90 gilded crests to get a 636.
So that's six upgrades that, you know, you could potentially use to get more item levels
across mid-range peace upgrading.
Yeah.
I mean, it sort of depends, right?
A lot of people made a staff early on.
Yeah.
Two-hander safe craft.
Yeah, the staff was good value because you were getting two sparks with one enchanted guild
of crest.
Well, they have saved their guild of crests.
Well, you'll get 90 more next week.
Yeah, the catch is...
You had to send them on the heroic here, but I guess I'm assuming that they're
going to craft something with guild of crests.
I don't know.
I think a lot of people won't.
It's possible.
I think that for most race to world first players, they're going to have
better upgrades to send than 90 into another crafted piece with having already made one.
Oh, they might actually just send it on a ring or something like that.
Yeah, and they'll have another enchanted runed crest so they can make a 619 crafted piece of some oddities that I'm convinced.
I think that will be the most common pattern here.
You're probably right now, I'm thinking about it.
Yeah, I mean, Jewelry is the result after pretty highly on the ring.
There is the rare neck and rare ring, but still.
In terms of long-term value, it makes maybe a little bit more sense to craft something with the
Guild of Crests, but in terms of immediate value for first competitors, especially also since the
fact that they can get one, two, potentially even three upgrades from Reclear tomorrow on that myth
track, it does make sense for them to actually be able to save those Guild of Crests for the
future. Yeah, it's definitely an interesting crafting system. I'm sure there will be people
making both of those decisions, but I think this week we saw predominantly Guild of Crests
onto a staff, and then I think next week is probably going to be one of your free enchanted
rune crests onto some like bracer or something to put the you know Nervir being a webbing
on instead of a pvp off piece.
We were looking at how they played 26 unique characters through the first four bosses of
the raid and we were kind of questioning like, for what reason are they doing this?
Because that's pretty atypical, right?
You normally end up running, you don't run like an optimized comp or you don't try
to get that many characters in for the first couple of bosses, but now it seems
to be paying dividends since they've ran so many characters through each and every single
boss and the specific characters are good at very specific things like the Frosty K
was excellent at Brutus and it's excellent at this boss.
It wasn't great at Nexus Princess for example and so the things that some of these specs
are good at, there's a lot of specs that are incredibly powerful at niche damage
types and so you end up needing more and more characters than ever before and I think
we're probably going to come out of this raid.
This might be the largest amount of characters out there.
I think this is the most diverse raid we've seen comp-wise in a very, very long time, right?
We've seen up to three other station evokers, multiple frost decays,
uh, five with a ton of sick retpaladin.
Yeah, retpaladin, exactly, yeah.
These are things that are getting swapped in and out.
The holy paladin has been swapped in and out.
There's been a russer and shaman that's been swapped in and out.
I was looking at it yesterday that, you know, there's 39 specs in the game,
and only really six of them haven't been used seriously during race world first prog.
When I looked at it, apparently two of those have actually been experimented with as well, so maybe even three.
Which six are those, retinas, you know?
So I had Survival Hunter, Prott Warrior, Fire Mage, Miss Weaver Monk, Rester Druid and Shadow Priest as ones that haven't really been seriously used.
Apparently people have been experimenting with Shadow Priest, Fire Mage and Prott Warrior.
Among the top three guilds in the world is what I'm sort of looking for for this.
And again, none of those have been used in the World First Guild.
There's a couple other specs that haven't been used in the World First Guild as well.
But, you know, like, Vengeance DH was used for re-tanking Ovenaxe on Prague,
but then it wasn't actually used for the kill type thing, so...
I don't know. I mean, it's been a very exciting tier from that end.
From the end of planning around it being a two-reset tier,
if they don't kill Silicon Court today, a lot of that actually will backfire, right?
Like, we didn't play DHD on Olgrax, because the idea was,
okay, it's a two-reset tier, DHD is gonna get a six-box from bosses two through seven.
If we don't kill Boss 7, all of a sudden, oops, we should have had THD on Olgrax to get his last slot in the vault.
So there may be some people here with odd numbers of boss kills that's over the week,
based on them assuming they would be able to get 7 bosses this week and maybe only ending up with 6.
That could potentially be a big advantage as well for Echo and Method.
They're going to have more time on this boss due to the EU advantage of having a later reset,
so they might be able to kill this on their first reset and get that in their vaults.
Yeah, I don't believe this boss falls today anywhere, though.
Just to clarify, I think we're pretty far off from killing this boss.
I think at the earliest it's Wednesday night, probably.
I mean, like, we've seen the end of this fight in a sense.
I think most guilds have probably gotten to that point,
but there's so much damage to find here.
They're at 60% still.
Dude, the chat, the chat, thank you for saying that.
Oh, you're out, really?
That was controversial.
I love how your hand tagged us.
It just flew over my head.
I don't even want to get it.
I'll tell you about it later.
I gotta wake up, man.
Let's do a running pass.
I'm just unbiased, all right?
I don't I don't show my favorite isn't anywhere. I see another do we that's why we casted for echo to that
I play both sides of the fence here. My favoritism is for sale every tears though. We're getting paid for this. Oh, oh
That looks a lot
Yeah back to this boss as well
How much do we think this boss will get nerfed by a few extra item of us because I'm kind of thinking that this is not a
Boss that gets much easier with more gear. I don't think I don't think it's
Like maybe we will get to an enrage, but except for that I feel like most of this is mechanics not numerical
So there's a couple of things that get easier with your first and foremost holding that tether for a longer period of time
Especially whenever you have to stun the this beetle that this big scarab that's on the screen right holding that tether is gonna be a lot
Less danger also a couple of the intermissions and whatnot, you know, you're gonna be taking a little bit less damage than you would
Than you would otherwise also wonder if we're gonna end up swapping up the comp at all
Yeah, I mean we've already seen the experimentation with this. I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard
do something to remove one tanking as an option on this fight. Potentially that would be a change
on the reset because it would maybe make sense to accompany with an offsetting nerf to not be
increasing the difficulty of the boss mid-brog if they if they don't want to do that. I wouldn't
be shocked if we actually see some notes that talk about Nexus Princess in the future. Yeah,
probably they're on the teaming in like three four hours. I can't suspect we're going to see
Probably to a nerf boss.
Block, honestly.
Yeah, possibly.
Brewery twister, Nexus princess, and quite possible this boss as well.
I would say we're probably getting some tuning.
Yeah, again, this boss I think they would just want to remove one thing from the boss
ability.
Yeah, I don't even know if it necessarily needs to be tuned, I don't think we've even
seen it.
Yeah.
By tuning mechanical changes to this boss, other two, whatever.
Okay, right.
I think we're all pretty much in agreement.
Yeah, it is actually kind of important as well whether and how much they may nerf
Kaivesa and Ovenax for the re-clear of this raid.
That will affect how much they can do that first
versus wanting to do it after doing a bunch of,
you know, all the other weekly ways that you can gear up,
getting all those Gilded Crests, sending those upgrades
to make those take less time on progression.
And also it will affect how much they'd be able
to bring in characters that are less good on those fights
but that want gear from those fights.
So that is an important variable
for the race to world first.
Of course, even if they don't change those fights at all,
you know, Liquid will be able to re-clear
both of them next week.
But it's a question of with how much room to spare and how much it lets them, it gives them that flexibility to change their grand strategy around which boss, which characters come in.
Tella, so as a guild that's been progging, one of the 270 guilds that are progressing Brew Twister, if you were going to apply a nerf to it, what would you actually do?
Brew Twister? I think, so I think gear does nerf that boss, at least the Empire of the Boss a bit more.
You can live longer with certain like spider overlaps or power eggs.
I think you make the debuff longer to break the eggs by a second or two, likely more leeway there.
Probably come in and nerf the boss outflip as well.
I doubt they won't guilds tanking the boss in the black blood for half a minute before you kill it.
Seems a bit weird, do you have any guild outfield though with the presubokers?
Yeah, if they do enough general nerfs on that fight, you could definitely buff the value of the damage of standing inside that ground effect.
I think it's also somewhat buggy behavior that there's a healing absorb that only gets applied once when you stand in it,
And then the damage takes but oh, you don't get increased that size of the healing absorbed
So that may be something that maybe behavior on that fight that could be changed without even really calling it a box
So much that that does track is a bug fix and then for Nexus princess
I'm kind of look at I think a 10% HP nerf but remove the ability to one tank this fight that yeah
I'll let that ever have seeing a different fight
I think I'm and then reset with that and then maybe 10% off Queensbane again
Yeah, I wouldn't be I wouldn't hate more than 10% off Queensbane like looking at the numbers on that thing
It seems very very harsh to a lot of the specs a lot of the more marginal specs
like if you were trying to be one of the guilds that like
Echo and method both did this of bringing a DPS druid through that encounter those characters were in the trenches
Were external magnets, you know, it's crazy this bar skin for liquid
Their warriors were external right Warner not it not a weak class another weeks like arms is definitely like if they've been able to
play theory it would have been a little bit tankier on that fight, but
Yeah, they obviously wanted the dam from arms.
Yeah.
But yeah, I would hit it with 10% HP nerf, but we're removing the possibility of one tank
again.
Yeah, and this fight I think they should remove the one tanking option on it.
100% of group.
Immediate pressure.
Like I wouldn't even hit a hotfix to do that, but on the reset would also work.
The problem is too, there are more guilds that are at 4 out of 8, then there are
at 1 out of 8 currently.
Yeah.
And so I think that you have to be looking to do something with Brute Twister as well.
So, honestly, Roshanon was just frankly very, like, way too easy, but you can't go and buff
Roshanon, which is...
Exactly.
You can't buff Roshanon, right?
Yeah.
I mean, I wish you could.
I think they just missed the tuning on three and four a little bit, Sikron and Roshanon.
That's just sort of how it is.
It just chalked up next year.
It reminds me a bit of, like, a Mirgisil, a large problem with Tindrel was that
the first seven were easy enough that you would get there without having a boss
that sort of walled you for a while to, you know, to kind of let there be
some more time passing and some more of those nerfs to come in.
Halondres had a similar problem, but a similar occurrence happened where 500-600 guilds were
walled at Halondres and they weren't walled anywhere else in the raid.
A nice thing about Aperus, for instance, was you didn't get to Magmarax until you'd killed
Rashok into Skarn, right?
That boss was like never a brutal check for anybody.
It was hard, but Rashok was the hardest.
Right.
I think Rashok was really well tuned to get easier with gear as well.
it was actually I feel like nexus princess was a fight that I was I mean I
was looking forward to it a good bit but when we talked to Max a couple nights
ago where they killed the boss he said trade up I think I partially quote here
this fight sucks yeah he was very down on the out of it experience once they
switched that one tanking strategy hmm I think it got a lot more frustrating so
I think the good news is that there's a pretty good chance that you won't
have to one tank that encounter yeah this is their chance that will make the
fight a lot more chill I think once you go from progressing the boss to
gambling a kill on boss then it stops becoming fun and you're just like well
hopefully we can live eventually. Alright we are now entering the first
intermission here maybe we could go take a look so we've got this is the sort of
the main group and you can see what they're doing here is always rotating
counterclockwise around the boss. There are also some players like fired up in
THD back here as you can see and they are actually at CHE and Dranaco are
paired up you can see they're sort of dropping their moats and then going
around in a little circle and getting those modes from each other, which lets them sort
of stand a lot more still than if they were in that main group.
Yeah, very much so.
This shield, the boss is actually no joke here either.
Like the longer you're in this phase before it hurts, it lasts a very long time.
42 seconds there on the Shatter Existence cast.
Actually pretty good.
Draini is down.
No rest for Draini available.
We can keep pushing through this a bit longer.
Yeah, down a healer, down a D.Va aura is not great, but this fight is actually
a lot less lethal than Kaiveza.
Get a good rest of a minute and a half maybe maybe we can make it to that. Yeah
That's why you were losing a dispel as well for the you can
I mean you could they were mess I believe in mass the first time I saw the actual
Slendor bosses cast in the center there just to make sure they got through it and exceed later on the fight
I feel like mass would hurt really badly in this fight, but they were like they could somehow probably should wipe you but I
Don't know for sure
You can set up a star under the boss and then mass but it's a lot harder than just going in and dispelling one at a time
Which is what they're doing. Yeah, okay, you would need to have five people
For whom the boss is the closest thing to them. So you would need to set up in like a pentagon around the boss
Yeah, quite tight underneath it
But then you could if Johnny was that you could have done three dispels and then you can do it as well the other two
Yeah, yeah
I mean, yeah, believe me in my rate. I've seen it jump with three people not five
Like five is the mythic dispel requirement here. I've seen a jump from three to somebody outside the rage standing in there
So if mass is on the table with my yield, I'm sure we're massing it, but
Yeah, it seemed to work before. Oh, that's it is now ahead of liquid in terms of boss progression as well
Yeah, that's that 59 yeah liquid definitely
Having a slower progression in terms of percent at least on this boss
Then I think they would hope especially
Given the information that echo and method have been able to go faster on it
Now I am just but a stupid caster, but for what reason could they be lower percent in it to not be just...
Right, exactly.
...the worst Prague?
It's... that's the thing is, you know, percent in Prague aren't always exactly the same thing, but they... on this fight, they're...
I think they are, yeah.
Yeah, so it is just, you know, bad... oh, on the other hand, obviously Liquid have just woken up, right, so...
Uh...
Yeah, they have full asleep.
It is sort of a phenomenon that does happen very often in the raced world first, as you go to sleep ahead and you wake up behind.
Oh yeah, let's take a little look here at the end of this intermission and going into P2, what that looks like.
Because this is the sort of part of the fight which we're seeing progression happening at.
You see this pull wasn't quite a prog pull, but it was close.
Is this not just a recycle of mechanics after you come out of this intermission?
Is it not just P1 all over?
So we don't have the charges anymore in this phase.
This phase is more based on the Scanespinner.
And look at this.
It grips in the Marks of Rage and Paranoia, I think at different times as well.
Oh, okay. It's not sure.
I'll wipe the raiding.
Yeah, because it grips you right under the boss, then you've got to get out before that blast.
But then you have to go and soak those orbs from the other people.
It looks like you drop orbs from where you got gripped from.
So yeah, I'm trying to figure out where the spot is that they're using those gateways as well.
It looks like they're going to one of the second.
back there possibly around the star marker couldn't really tell what the
moving around their other way they just want to start to dodge the front of what
comes out but that makes sense yeah getting in position for that yeah
unfortunately we're gonna go down right by this big boom yeah so that was a
failure to land the disc balls on the box yes which that makes sense dude this
is a really hectic fight to watch I feel like it's one of those fights that
so many unique mechanics are happening at the same time it's just mm-hmm
sometimes I mean okay obviously there they just failed the land of this
spells and so we can tell why they wipe but there's sometimes a difficulty in
telling what is killing people off. There is there's like checkpoints in this
fight in a sense though right making it through that that skeinswinter mission
then getting a bit of a spell on the boss as well. If you get past that
checkpoint you can see a bit of the health come off the boss like we're
offering it. But there's multiple checkpoints for this boss. The ray grip,
the soaks, the intermission from the skeinswinter, the intermission from
the billet which is a large upheaval phase similar to Blackfeet's
actually way back in Orgammar. Yeah it looks similar actually. Yeah in the
Final phase you have sort of both those overlapping almost simultaneously
whilst those open warbs, whilst they've been griffed in
and the boss is then charging the wall again as well in the final phase
which is the root core.
The wipe is called there yet, that wasn't somebody standing in the frontal foolishly
that was going to intentionally die after something else had gone wrong
on pole there. That's okay.
In your own guild chat, you guys shouldn't stand in the front and try to be the last one to die.
I shouldn't.
Yeah, always, exactly. You never know when they're going to pop open warcraft logs
and look at that deaths tab.
Exactly.
You always got to be well on that so whenever a wipe is called you want to be the last person to die
It's very true page numbers actually to yeah, you got a page numbers page numbers up time meters
I had your death. Also, whatever whenever people are looking at deaths. You always have to filter by three first three deaths
I'm gonna say well you want to do is you want to you want to test filtering by one two and three deaths and just not
Filtering and see which of those makes you look best and then link that to your gill. Yes
Yeah, that's an important thing right that one down you want to be looking at boss damage all damage
Damage during certain phases again. You look through all these metrics see which ones have you looking good and then link those
Very important, but every takes right yeah, this is this has been our warcraft logs tutorial
Is this what they're sponsoring this a bit for yeah, they do they there's hacks
Like life pro tip
I get the most out of Warcraft Logs.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Hmm.
You're ready with Kira, yeah?
I did, yes.
It's been a long time.
Kira, who is the founder of Warcraft Logs, he's separating with us, I think, in Legion.
Oh, my gosh.
It's been a long time.
He's still in the guild.
He's post, like, Final Fantasy stuff a bunch.
I don't see him playing well anymore.
Oh, no, he's gonna convert us.
You chased him out of this game?
I guess that I chased him out.
The officer core out of this game when I first came around.
It's pretty rough, you know?
It's okay.
They offered it to me.
I turned it down then, just to start dominance at that point in time.
point in time. I see. So yeah, five years later they wouldn't offer to me at all at this point.
You think you're a good officer?
Is there more of this joke, Piddles? No, that's it.
Was it a joke? It was enough of a joke by itself.
The way he looked at me like, okay, but...
Yeah, you know, I'm too old at this point.
Huh? I'm approaching 45, I can't do much. Well, yeah, it's supposed to be like,
wiser or something. Not bad. I think it's a fallacy. That's not true at all.
Hmm. It's fake news. Fake news. Your branch just slows down the older you get. At least for me it does.
Alright, so we've got Impact here. Webbed up with one of the evokers in his mark group.
Who do you think...what classes do you think want to be webbed the most here?
Yeah, it looks like they've been having the melee and evokers from the rage group doing it,
And basically what they do is that it looks like they're finding a way to consistently just bait those three web bombs on those players.
And then they just immediately get them with a certain free-determined partner every time.
You saw their even impact getting rescued by the evoker he was webbed with.
Which is really nice as well, like getting rescued into position by your evoker partner is really good because then you're both also getting a twin guardian shield.
That's helping you survive the ticking damage.
Yeah, I would have guessed it would have been stuff like Habok DH, Death Knight, those are the kind of classes I'd think, okay, these are pretty tanky, we can do some death striking if we're getting low from this top, we can do some tattoos to take less damage from it.
Okay, so I have a question. Assume that they do fix the one tanky on this fight, what does Scott play here? Because we kind of have all the buffs, right? We have Rubins on that moonkin, would you just like, I guess maybe axe Rubins off the moonkin?
I heard Lincoln's damage is looking quite good on the fight.
Yeah, I've seen that.
And Bear, I think, I don't know, I don't know what Bear would do on this fight.
Like, you'd be pretty squishy to getting bolted by the Scanespinner, especially from far away.
You could play Blood Decay maybe for grips on the...
Yeah, I was thinking Blood Decay.
And Blood Decay is actually something that I believe is being used on this fight
as one of the one tanks from some of the other guilds,
or at least has been experimented with.
What would you cut, then?
Because we're run double enhanced, and I think that enhanced is nasty with this boss.
Enhanced is very good.
Our keen mage works really well timing-wise, at least it did during heroic, it works really
well timing-wise.
Yeah, the burst windows on this encounter do tend to favor very bursty specs.
I think the amateur profile, damage profile-wise is likely a warlock if you can find a way
to make one gate.
If you don't need this gateway.
Yeah, if you can make one gate work, it's likely a lock, if not, I mean, I don't
know, devs seem pretty good in this fight still, very mobile, a lot of them will
be late in this fight.
I don't know, it's tough.
You might be right.
Yeah, that's a question of how mandatory those gateways are because Max was talking about it when we had that monster energy
listening earlier where he was talking about it being mandatory for the current strategy they're using to have two gateways
But of course that doesn't mean it's mandatory to have to warlock scale the fight, right?
It just means they would have to change their strategy
It's a question of how much worse that would make their strat. It sounds it sounds also like people didn't necessarily agree with Max
Yeah, that's a bit
Instead of that being like the best strategy for instance, right, precisely being the one that requires two gateways
So yeah, there's probably a surprise if we see more experimentation with other strats
I wouldn't be shocked if this gets changed in the long to be able to do one tank. All right. It's going down here
Yeah, no better as a double for him to stand. Unfortunately, I'm going to be able to fight pretty quickly here, but
Yeah, I don't know if you're liquid
Do you if you're liquid you have a few hours up in your ring that tonight
Do you think you shift towards a two tank strat?
That title is just to prepare for that change likely coming in, nothing is mentioned.
Which it should be, but if it's not...
I...
Okay, so I think if Blizzard doesn't say anything about...
Okay, so there's a couple of ways that they could tell the Raiders.
First off, they could just post a blue post.
That's probably the most traditional way of saying, yo, we're changing this.
Alternately!
They could just post, basically, something that's happened since Sample Curve,
is that Raiders have communication with Blizzard developers
in order to be able to have this active line of communication talking about potential changes to the race,
whether it be class changes or boss changes or hotfixes or whatever.
I could see it going where Blizzard is like, okay, you're no longer going to be able to untang it.
Say Blizzard says nothing. I would probably just continue to play with the one tank strat.
At that point, I'm just kind of assuming that Blizzard is not changing it, which
I think that they should. Very likely. Same with Kaivaza, but I was a bit too late in the progression.
Yeah, kind of as it was a little bit later in the boss progression experience, just by changing it up.
I also don't like the way that they were one-tanking, because it was just like so...
Yeah, here I don't think they're actually planning any deaths to come of the one-tanking.
Yeah.
It's like we're gonna try one tank, it's gonna make tanking harder, but it's not like,
oh yeah, we're committing all of our battle resins and onc totems to facilitate a one-tank strategy.
It's much more like, okay, congratulations, your job has gone from hard to harder.
We're also getting a little bit of class tuning on the reset, which I don't think any of it's actually going to end up impacting Shadow Priest.
So the Shadow Priest aura buff is something, that's the only one that I feel like actually is going to change anything, because the other one is like, what, Resto Druid getting a slight buff?
Yeah, slight Bmg.
Daryl Druid is getting buffed, right, and Daryl Druid is actually a buff to be used?
Yeah, I believe so.
It's some Rp change, it's your class, I don't know, you tell me.
I'm going to check the...
I'm going to hurry the bunch here. I couldn't tell you, I don't know.
Don't call me that, man.
I don't know.
But yeah, the Jettabreeze thing is probably the most interesting buff that's coming up.
So we believe Mether will be using one on their progression in this fight.
Yeah, they were definitely using one on Kaibaza as well, right?
So, um...
Okay, I guess Ferrell's just getting a...
a change to Rampant for us.
Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
It's a quality of life thing more than a buff.
I was going to say, is that even a buff? I didn't really know.
Yeah, and then the other changes are...
There's a Rider of the Apocalypse change for a Death Knight that doesn't matter.
So it doesn't matter, yeah.
There's a Resto Druid all healing and increased by 4% change.
Resto Druid stinks.
Yeah, I mean, enough small changes do eventually make a spec go from bad to good.
Okay, especially for Druid where it's like,
okay, we need to find the least bad Druid spec on every fight.
So Reservation of Ochre heals 30% more than the other healer.
That's the problem.
Rest of Druid heals 10% less than the rest of the pack.
Yeah, so this may be moving Rest of Druid
towards kind of a healthy bottom of the pack place,
except for the fact that then Prezavokers
are taking like all of your Druid spots,
or all of your healer spots.
Prez won't last past this raid tier.
Okay, I'm right.
I'm surprised they're not doing nerfs mid,
like they're doing buffs, they're not doing nerfs.
It's basically what it looks like to me.
I'm surprised that they're not nerfing Prezavoker.
If there's one spec that I would have been looking
change you were to nerf it would I think reservation I pretty clearly they I
suspect they regret not nerfing presa bokeh I suspect they regret not nerfing
say enhance arcane fury a little bit more than they did DPS specs I'm a bit more
forgiving of because this raid is so unique in the sense right specific
specs are very good at specific things now enhance an arcane and fury are all
good at most most things yes yeah and I'm not gonna disagree with that but it's
It's more just like Prez is the best healer in all situations to the point where you're
running.
It's so unprecedented to be running two of one healer spec, that's more my point than
anything else.
We saw that in Volta Incarnates as well with Prez Voker as well.
And they were OP.
Yeah, we see it with Double Paladin or Double Priest all the time as well.
But Paladins would tell you that they suck.
That's true, they always would.
But I don't know, I feel like Prez Voker, it's definitely an outlier, it definitely
will get nerfed at some point this season, but it's maybe not this season, but at
At some point, right, like they don't want Presavoker to be this good, but doing nerfs
mid-race, doing nerfs in the first few weeks of Mythic Frog as guilds have kind of locked
in, not just the race to World First guilds, but every guild has sort of locked in who's
playing what.
It feels really bad to identify correctly that something's good, gear it up, and then
get it nerfed and it's like, okay, this is this x-ray.
The weird thing is I think we're closer to three Presavokers than we are to one
Presavoker.
Yeah, and that three has been used by some guilds on some of these bosses as
well.
So it is very good.
I think that it's not like, not that overwhelming that it warrants breaking the philosophy of not doing nerfs in the next few weeks.
I think that everything that's been said here is completely valid, yeah.
So some other changes that are coming in, we've got a Beast Mastery Hunter AoE increase, which you will notice.
There's not currently a Hunter inside the raid here.
Four seem liquid.
Despite the fact that they do technically have a raid buff, one problem with this fight is that the Hunter's mark raid buff can only be applied to one of these bosses.
We need two hunters if you wanted to get full value out of Hunter's Mark, and each one is
therefore only bringing half value of a Hunter's Mark.
And that's some damage, but that's like half a percent of the boss's health.
A little bit more if you focus on the target that has the Hunter's Mark on it, but it's
still not a lot.
And then you'd have to be playing a Hunter, and the Hunter damage profile on this fight
is pure single target.
Yeah, BM is nice because it's high mobility, but it is pretty much pure single target.
And if you want to play one of the other Hunter specs, you could get a little more
cleave for free.
It doesn't start a wing until three targets right exactly two targets is a very
It I guess iconically for hunter it is a bit of a dead zone for them
So the serve would be the hunter spec for this boss. Yeah, which is another melee. So that's you know, okay
And then why would you bring a serve when you can bring up a frost up like right because a hunter's mark
But a hunter's mark is not more than yeah, so hunter's mark is what so it's it's five percent above 80 percentage, right?
So it would happen target. It's it's 1% of the boss itself, right?
5% up 20% yeah is what well I said it would be to it would be two and a half
percent because it's two different bosses in this in this instance right so it
okay yeah it's down to 0.5 total percent but again you could primary target the
like you could have most of your rate of hitting the target that a hunt had
hunches mark on it so you do a little bit more than that okay maybe like there
are two targets and they're stacked on top of each other so maybe you could
get to 0.75 yeah something like that yeah we're talking about a pretty
marginal benefit that is not bigger than the different.
And then Morgan the Wild is 3%?
Yeah, Morgan the Wild is 3%.
That's a lot more.
Although it is additive with other versatility, so it's a bit less than 3%.
So anyways I don't think Hunter's coming in, I don't think the Beast Mastery change
which is Beast, Gleeve, and Kill Gleeve damage increased to 90% from 80%.
That's a Mythic Plus change.
Very small buff.
Yeah.
That's a Mythic Plus change mostly.
I mean, BM Hunter is so bad on Mythic Plus 2, but that's because they're tuned
around like baseless collar and a bunch of other single target effects and it's just like yeah it's
stuff I think that's back is in need of more is there's nice to see it getting buffed but I don't
think it's going to change too much on the reset fire mage I buffed them to fire mage is getting
15 percent damage on flame strike 20 percent damage on phoenix flames and 10 percent damage on living
bomb which so 10 percent times zero is zero but so these are three these are three aoe effects
they're trying to buff them up for mythic plus a little bit but these are okay so basically you
don't flame strike in mythic plus right now living bomb is only about six percent of your damage
And then, was the other one Phoenix Lames?
Which you do press on all cases.
It's not the worst possible threat.
It's not a huge shortage of damage.
You're mostly pressing it, I think, for the things that it does, rather than the damage it does.
I suspect that that's a very small gain in a raid situation.
And honestly, not even that big of a gain in a Mythic Plus situation,
unless they start flamestracking for some reason.
Yeah, I mean, 15% is a large amount of damage on a spell to go up.
It may change the priority list, but it's...
By the way...
I'm not expecting to see it come into the race to world first as a result of these changes.
Unrelated, but I hate how they've changed so many specs coming into war with them
to be pressing their full single target rotation on them.
Yeah, I cannot say that.
On AOE?
Yeah, on AOE, yes.
Like, there are a lot of specs where you're just never pressing the...
You're never like doing the AOE thing, right?
All three major specs suffer from this problem.
Right, Arcane, it's so weird.
Arcane used to have like an AOE difference, right?
Where you're just like, okay, I'm Arcane explosioning now, right?
And now it's like, you know, really, you just kind of hit a single target and your stuff leaves you free.
They removed so with the seeds, like, from the game, basically.
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of modernization when it comes to talent overhaul and stuff, too.
Like, I'm taking most of my avi abilities, even in single target.
I hit one extra, basically, in an avi.
But then Frosty K is pressing the exact same button.
Exactly.
Outlaw Rogue is...
Outlaw Rogue's always been like that, where you just hit Blade of Blur and then you're chillin'.
So I like it there.
Outlaw Rogue has always been like that, but they're moving more specs to being like that.
Exactly.
I don't really love with that one.
I like it when there are some specs that you can play where it's like, okay, here's how my rotation changes as the third target gets added
Here's how my rotation changes as the fifth target gets added and there's a lot of specs where there's either no change or it's like, okay
On any number of targets to a greater you've changed your talent this way and you press whirlwind every three globals
So for mythic plus the problem with that a we in specific
In particular the problem with that is that those specs are inherently
Right design for mythic plus two specs that actually have to make a decision. That's why like psychic link is
ridiculous right yeah I'll tell you say that's like like exactly sir if you
look pull up the change walk recycling since like whatever it came out I think
it was what dragonfly came back yeah it's like a page and a half of changes
like a psychic link like every single patch hard to hard to do that we had
very hard to collect you can't if they're very good in single target
they're arguably very good really because it's basically it's very we
right that's that's better crash that's it in season three worse than
dinges demon hunter on a we to one of the best specs in the game over
the court with two buffs. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. It's a very difficult, but yeah, I
faxed to balance. More my point was the fact that it's like kind of weird that
they've designed more and more specs like that. Anyways, that aside, it sounds
like we have some pets to be showing off. Oh, meantime, my god, this is a
whole pack. Oh, there's two pictures here. Well, a whole pack of two. Yeah.
This is Ash and Jinx and this has been submitted by Hula.
Oh, I know who this is from. Yes, I know these cats. I've seen these before.
Yeah, wow. I think they named some League of Legends champions after these kids.
I like it. Do you think she plays ADC?
Could be.
Aw, thank you. I like it. I've seen those cats many times on Twitter before. Very nice.
Okay, if your pets are named after ADC, do you think that makes you more likely to be an ADC main
carry main or like a support main and then you you know because supports I think
they seem more likely to be a Navy carry okay I don't know what's being discussed
right now those are legions yeah those are legal okay it's coming if you're
what he is shaking his head let me explain this you know our terms if you
had pets named after tank class oh Gina and Cadgar are you more likely or less
likely to be a mage I don't know I don't like as much as much I feel like
More like if you had you if you had a if you had kitties named vendors even hunter and blood death night
Are you more likely to be a tank or a healer?
Because if they're if they're if your pets are named after tanks
Are you may be a healer because you you know you you love your you love your tanks sure?
I get that I played one game of League of my entire life never again. She said
Who's a chat goes I play top lol asses is my jam
Let's go
So she said, we love islands.
Absolutely neither.
Not just the farthest away lane you could be to your kiddys.
She's gonna teleport down for them.
Yeah, so that's good.
If you're casting blood, you can heal her either way, right?
That's true.
Yeah, there you go.
Sure.
That's good, Tom.
That's...
You know what, screw it.
Healers hate you, actually.
Well, you know, just help me, it's fine.
No wonder Jack never nice to me anymore, that's why.
He hates me, okay, got it.
Yeah, cool.
I'm supposed to.
Yeah, well, believe me, should have heard, should have heard what he said to you this morning when he asked about, who's our third caster?
I said, Teddles, and he, uh, he was very excited to hear it, Teddles.
Yeah, I was, I was happy, I was, I was celebratory.
Mm-hmm.
Giving me a side eye over here.
We were, I was happy about it, I don't know.
Teddles brings the energy of 10 men, combined into one.
It's very good.
He's just sitting here.
You know that, you know that, I was on to that.
I don't actually, I don't know how to respond.
I was gonna say, oh great, thanks Kalamazia.
It's not an insult, you're weird.
I hate you.
I think that is the perfect word.
Pray for the downfall, pray for the downfall of Pop-Tart-Cord-Dog.
That's right.
No, Corn Dog gives me a lot of, I don't know, a test of a Corn Dog.
I have blood legion there, going to Corn Dog, I'm back to Puggan, I don't want to do that again.
That's right.
Pure misery.
I love the movement on these orb pairs.
In the range group, yeah.
Yeah, they're doing their own little circle.
This is definitely the way to be able to optimize damage from our Caster perspective.
I think the evokers are just going to be in melee because they have hover and they can just continuously take the boss so that it just doesn't want to.
But I think from the Warlock and the Mage perspective, you have to plant like that.
I don't think you can afford to be running around.
Are they rotating counterclockwise compared to clockwise for the range groups?
That's just a natural movement based on the front of the boss's casting.
I can't tell.
If the melee club is rotating counterclockwise, for sure you can tell.
If the blue and red groups here, for example, right when in that last phase,
I think the range pair is almost rotating counterclockwise there.
In opposite fashion, basically.
Not a lot of time left until these moats, looks like they've- Oh!
Oh, did they blow up?
Not sure what got fired up there.
It looks like maybe one of the red moats exploded.
Does it not completely wipe your entire raid in one of the moats it's close?
No, it's only the player.
No, I think it'll kill most of the... I think it gives everybody the other color a stack-y.
And if you soak three, I believe it kills you too correctly.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
I think I misunderstood exactly how it killed you. I thought it killed you by...
Yeah, I mean it's like basically...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't... but I didn't realize it gave you a stack as opposed to like...
I think that's how it works, but I'm not 100% sure, yeah.
Three stacks and it's over basically.
Yeah.
That's right.
That's kind of a weird way of doing it. You normally assume it's going to be like a bomb and just like explode.
Yeah.
Okay, we got some more pets that we can showcase as well. Let's go another gosh Hermes. Oh
Wow, why are cats? I learned about Hermes in Greek mythology. Yeah, I feel that class
hmm
That doesn't surprise me. I stopped going. I did find mythology very interesting
Has Hermes changed your mind here? You want to learn more about his lore?
Yeah, ah, maybe good
I like him. Yeah. Oh
Gosh, this is a large animal. That is a large animal
Leia, it's made by Zix QD
Mmm, that German Shepherd. Yes. It's like a fluffy German Shepherd. What is that about? It's crazy. I like that
Like he's like all fluffy and curly. He's a happy boy. Yeah, he might do you tell them the space is very excited
Leia is a she not a he but I don't know for sure. Oh, yeah, she's a happy girl
It's fine.
No way to know.
Very nice dog.
Very nice.
Very happy.
Oh, there's Jinx.
Another Jinx.
Hold on.
What is it?
Yeah.
Jinx, they're related?
Yes.
How do you actually?
The Jinx kitty from earlier?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Father, sister, probably, yeah.
Really?
Long lost cousins.
Yeah, cat and dog.
That's the same size, honestly.
Yeah.
Ha ha ha.
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Oh, it looks like we have propped our lunch break for the day here.
What is that on the break timer?
I'm not sure.
That is Cams at Boston, raced the world first, inhaling some kind of substance that shouldn't have been inhaled in the building.
It's Cams Smoke.
For that scene he did.
Oh, for a scene?
For that scene, he was actually very sick after that scene, like legitimately for the whole day.
That was his first scene right ever.
I see.
I'm glad that we're promoting positive life changes with people here, yeah.
Yeah, he said it's not gonna do it ever again.
Instead, stay inside and play World of Warcraft, you're not smoking.
We test for you until it's not a good idea.
Yeah.
Anyhow, I think we're going to be doing one of the charity type of things.
That's why we've got these little tables here.
What do you guys know about crystals?
Why are you looking at me for that?
I think like the Florida man.
Why are you looking at me for that?
I like to that crystal people and plants just kind of go hand in hand.
It's well known that you have a tropical rainforest built in your house.
I don't know anything about it.
I'm not sure.
This is my first time doing anything about crystals.
So you do have, you know about plants, yes?
I have some plants, yes.
I have like four, seven and a half foot plants at my house.
Yeah, they're very, very large.
You know, there's hurricane coming down the line.
That'd be the one you're back.
All right, here we go.
Oh my gosh.
What is this?
The Hall of Fall Star.
Is what we're gonna be making.
So basically the Hall of Fall Star turns purple
whenever Belladar shows up.
I never get to know.
You know Yip's has a Belladar tracker on his UI.
Yeah, he does.
In the middle of the crawl.
One of the few week-ards he has.
It's very good.
It's very good.
Pretty well you know that is hot.
Any week was...
Okay, okay.
So we have a sure of like an unknown substance into...
Oh my gosh.
We have these sticks as well that appear to have sugar on them.
They've been used already, that's okay.
Okay, so...
How does this work?
I'm not a chemist.
I see a hole in the tape here, so I suspect that this goes...
In?
Yeah.
And then what?
Okay, so do some alchemy.
Essentially, the sticks are dipped in sugar.
Uh-huh, good.
And we're putting them into a hot sugar syrup.
It's like a four to one sugar to water ratio.
You're in.
Yeah.
When the stick sits in there, because there's not
a whole lot of air, it's going to start to crystallize.
So over the next couple of days,
we're going to watch it grow more and more into a crystal
rock around the stick.
Oh, a little bit.
This is a long-term science project, okay?
Can we make it purple?
We can try.
Okay, I thought this was gonna be like a,
like we were gonna be eating some,
something sugar-based right now.
No, that's gonna be later,
because we had candy bugs.
Cool, oh.
Wait, can we hit my mouth?
Can we get to the candy bugs?
No, that's gonna be later.
Oh, word.
Okay, great.
Word.
That doesn't mean you won't be, or like.
I'm not eating bugs.
That doesn't mean you're absolutely absolved of it.
You eat bugs, then what?
I, I...
The average human eats like two or three bugs a night.
That's false, falsely.
I think it's probably more like four or five anyways.
There you go, no gas in it.
You don't have to hold the jar, it is very hot.
Well you can.
I worked with the chemist for 10 years,
I can't feel anything.
Put it next to the other jar.
I prefer to hold it.
So wait, so we've just started a chemistry project
is what's happening here.
Yeah, I think this is going on.
So how long will it take to crystallize
and turn into a star?
So because we increase the ratio of sugar to water,
it could be a couple days to a week.
It's just going to keep growing, and we're not going to get it to a state where we can't
get out of the jar because that would be wasteful, but over the next three-ish days it is going
to start to form larger and larger.
Okay.
Very cool.
Yeah, if we ever get to splits, we could instead watch the crystals form.
That could be a pain right there.
Very nice.
Joe, on the next reset potentially.
You can see I'm bubbling a bit.
Very cool.
Yeah.
Your stick's not straight.
That's an artistic choice.
okay okay okay this is we're gonna see how it's different to the angle this way
and this way we'll know which one was mine as well that we will that we will
on a dreadnose yeah oh yeah I get a little sharpie yeah yeah very warm all
right here's how am I what is this it's cool it's kind of hard to mine yeah cool
well I don't know what's here for but I couldn't help myself I like it all
Well, we're excited work work work work. I'm doing something you're doing good
You're very good at that actually thank you. Hmm. King's honor friend. Thank you
All right, cool, so I guess we'll keep track of this project over the next day
We want to keep them here. I
Moved at some point whenever we go to lunch that makes sense. Yeah
The players of course are on a bit of a break for about yeah
We had a 30 minute lunch break. Oh time to fix this thing saying hey little monster incident
It's okay. It's okay a small collapse if it was the entire thing we would send somebody for that I think
Max probably
Max fixed the wall
There you go saying good job. Thank you so much saying thank you
Saying high in spirits smiling all the way there we go. Yep. It's really time as well playing that
Devavoker. Yep. Mm-hmm. Anyways, anyways, so the
The Raiders are on a 30 minute lunch break.
We are going to be going and joining them for a little bit of a lunch break, so we will
be back after lunch.
Big shout out to our sponsors, Coinbase, Secret Lab, Monster Energy, Alienware, Raider
IO, Wild Head, Warcraft Logs, and Dungeon Dojo.
I'm Teddles joined by Kalamazine Dratnas.
We will be back in just a few minutes.
Goodbye.
How about this to celebrate our spring championship?
I celebrated by getting a new Honda Civic Hybrid.
With style, power, and fuel efficiency,
it's next all awesome.
Get in.
Why didn't I think of this?
How do you turn a bare-blood?
Hi, my name's Atlas.
I play that night for the Great Guild.
Some of the features of the Alienware ProLine mouse
that I really enjoyed, it's extremely lightweight.
It glides effortlessly across the mouse pad.
The clicks feel very responsive and give you feedback.
I love how this mouse feels.
While players inherently mash their keyboards like crazy,
so it's good to have reliable keyboard
that is responsive and easy to have clicks on the keys.
Thank you, Vic.
Hi, I'm Exile, and I play Rogue in Liquid Guild.
Firstly, my favorite feature about the ProLine mouse
is that it feels light as a feather.
It's really smooth, and I have no questions
on whether or not I'll be able to use it
for very extended periods of time.
The customizability of the Alienware keyboard
is a great feature to have,
as you're able to change the lighting whenever you want
and even change your PN switches.
Hi, I am Bubba Dubb.
I am a analyst slash officer in Liquid Guild.
The main feature that I really like about the mouse
is the side buttons.
They give you direct feedback on whether you pressed it
or not.
The weight and the shape of this mouse are perfect for me.
This keyboard is definitely something
that I would use at home for general use and for gaming.
The way that the keyboard feels to me,
I get instantaneous feedback on what button I pressed
and how I pressed it.
Hi, my name is Max, and I'm the raid leader
of Liquid Guild.
Then where ProMouse is actually great,
it's wireless, super easy to deal with.
It has great skates, so it actually will glide really well.
You can use it all day and you don't get sore at all.
So the Alienware Proline keyboard is actually great for wow.
If you want smaller desk space taken up by your keyboard,
it can also connect to three different devices
through Bluetooth.
And just overall, it has a great feel.
This might be the best keyboard I've ever used.
What is this?
Where's my secret lab?
This is your chair.
That's not my chair.
It's in my contract, man.
I only sit in secret lab chairs.
Look, I'm gonna have permanent backchains
because of this.
What's going on with them?
He ever got a secret lab?
Look at my head, look at my head.
You look at my head.
Max is gone.
Oh, diva.
Are you secret labs?
This is some dog.
You're a dog.
Ever since Max renewed his contract,
he's been like weirdly obsessed with secret lab chairs.
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
He does everything in them.
Like everything.
Like I get it.
They're great chairs.
but it's just like a bit much.
I guess he had it put in his contract
to always be sitting in a secret lab chair.
I mean, who does that?
When did that happen?
Good secret lab.
Look, it's not about the design or the comfort.
It's the personalized ergonomics, right?
Why else would it be in my contract?
I want it wherever I'm at.
I feel like people here just don't get it, you know?
For sure.
Like it's like when you're used to sushi
and then you go back to can tuna.
You just don't want that, right?
No one wants that.
That's crazy.
Feel like we should be focusing more on prepping for the actual race than like what chairs we sit in I
Mean like how comfortable can they really be I kind of get it. Let's move my
Two to a three and my five to a seven. I'm gonna take a quick dinner around then actually you know what instead of the three
Maybe move that to a one that way. I don't have to come to the office until way later. Hopefully hey
Yeah, I'm sorry about that
Look, it is what it is. I'm a nice guy, but Secret Lab, that's the only chair this butt sits in.
There's either a Secret Lab there or I'm not going.
Alright, that's a wrap everybody. Thank you. Have a good night.
There's my Secret Lab.
I'm a little bit of a fanatic, but I'll tell you what, so I'll look at my chest and I'll get it out of my mouth
And I'll say, I've forgotten what I've done, and I'll say, I've forgotten what I've done
And I'll say, I've forgotten what I've done, and I'll get it out of my mouth
Oh yeah
The Munchkin has a mysterious effect of a glow
The Munchkin has a black look and black look
The Munchkin has a wicked look and a little bit
The Munchkin has a scale of a necks on the head
You know what, i'll take all your things, and urself, i'll make you feel good
In the street, or any other kingdom
And i'll make you feel so real, there's my answer
But, I'll get in this other suit but, I keep getting in
I'm not a bad person, I'm a bad person
I'm a bad person, but i'm a bad person
I'm a bad person, i'm a bad person
I'm a bad person, i'm a bad person
Love, need to be a big gift
World of Warcraft Racing Racing and Blitz Love!
From a lunch break, I am told it's joined by Dratnus and Kalamazie.
The Raiders have their food buff, and they're ready for some more silken court progression.
Currently, we're in a bit of a third place in terms of progression of the boss.
However, after talking to some of the guys, it seems like Prague is imminent.
Yeah.
Surely.
I don't think help percent is totally indicative of how your progress is going on this boss.
obviously the lower the better within reason but there are a lot of checkpoints in this boss you can hit to get a lot more progress in
the same time there's a lot of DPS optimizations around those damage amps which
Probably will see a bit more after lunch strap being optimized a little bit
I think the percent is a pretty good indicator though of how far you are into this fight like
It's hard to imagine unless you have a pole where you're just literally practicing survival and not doing damage
I think it's going to be pretty closely correlated with how long you've gotten into the fight
Outside of those early poles where 10 people are alive and you're kind of seeing the timers
Let's talk about Scott a little bit.
He seemed in high spirits about the fact that he wasn't tanking this fight.
It's rare as one of the two main tanks of the guild that you ever get to ride the bench in.
It can be fun, especially fun that he and Yipz have taken turns out tanking one of the bosses.
I first pressed him kind of as I said, yeah, he's not a choke a little bit.
I wonder if Blizzard is going to be looking to actually change the ability to be able to one tank this boss.
I think they probably would so they already tried to by making the piercing strike persists through death
But apparently it's just still not doing the correct amount of damage
Which is making it quite easy to one tank so part of the problem too is that according to the dungeon journal?
It just does nine million physical damage, right which is not a lot of physical damage to a tank
And a frost death night. It's also not a lot of physical damage right?
I don't know
It's um, I think it's maybe just like an issue of it should be 19 million not 9 million
Yeah, the base damage being higher would make it so you couldn't have a dps player taunt them as often right be a
19 million sure yeah
Again, I like one tanking is a creative option for guilds. I think it's cool when it comes up the fact
There's happened to bosses in a row though
I don't I think it's pretty likely that they're gonna want that to not continue on not in love with that
hopefully we see some raid tuning. Yeah, I think during our shift there's a
decent chance we'll see something pop up, otherwise it'll be probably the next one.
Yeah. Usually, so for those who are new to the game here, usually Blizzard posts
hotfixes in the afternoon Pacific time, which we're right now, it's about 2 p.m.
local time, so usually you'd see it between now and maybe 5 p.m., sometimes a
little bit earlier, sometimes a little bit later, and we already know there is
class tuning hotfixes inbound on the Tuesday, but often raid boss tuning
gets announced later in the game than that,
later in the week than the class tuning
they usually try and announce on like the Friday
before they go for the weekend.
The rate tuning can happen on Monday,
that is pretty plausible.
I think it's likely, I still think it's more likely
than not that we will see some changes
to Cavesa and Ovenaxe over the, like today as well.
I tend to agree, I was looking at Rayro,
it looks like about 300 guilds
are on Brute, Twister, Ovenaxe.
Yeah.
And it looks about like,
about 250 guilds who have killed the first boss of mythic, the fact that there is a larger
wall and a lot of...
Right, 250 guilds are on Bloodbound Horror, yeah, on Bloodbound Horror, yeah, they're
only ol' Grax and not more.
Which that's pretty atypical of just general boss progression.
Yeah, there's a very brick wall building in that 5 out of 8 slot or 4 out of 8 slot
in the raid.
We have the first pull post launch now.
Yep, here we go.
So, what have they been wiping to so far?
of the big takeaways is it just like a couple of individual deaths kind of
spiraling out of control because it's kind of how it seemed yeah P1 I feel like
that that venomous rain is actually sleeper the hardest part of this phase
you can see we we do have random deaths coming in here and that is often going
to lead to a wipe but yeah the venomous rain adds a lot of spreading pressure on
them and it also adds a lot of damage and it adds more modes to yeah so
compressor as well right you know if you go past two sacs that he but
three is essentially death right the other checkpoint is sort of hitting this
fight they've gotten through that that mission of like breaking the shield with
like the webs coming at you essentially having those two groups rotating counter
clockwise they've gotten that down for the most part but the next sort of like
check they've gotten to is that I'm quad what is the word five to spell the
five this spell the pen to dispel yeah yeah basically the pen to dispel to
it actually stunned the boss right with that big boomcast that he's
doing not she called that but still that big one shot right which is gonna
be their next progression point. Yeah, I think it's kind of interesting. Some of the players
who have been siding this fight is boring. Yeah, it's interesting. Because the individual
jobs on this fight, I feel like especially if you're just coming off of Kai Vezah, where
like you're, you know, your pinkie toe being out of place is going to kill you and you
have to like really struggle to live all these things. It almost feels like this
This fight is, the individual mechanics are a lot less lethal and the strategy is a lot
more kind of, it's a lot less going to change from pole to pole, right?
Like there's a lot less RNG in when you get your blaze lines in the intermission and whether
you're getting targeted by different dashes from Kaivesa.
This time around like you can pretty much do the same thing from pole to pole.
Now obviously there's still a lot of ways that you can wipe on this boss, but that
That does tend to lead to a very different progression experience that depending on who
you are of the 20 players, maybe five people have a really difficult job that is top to
master and the other 15 people are kind of waiting on those five players to make deeper
progression in the fight.
Sure, yep, job on this is probably one of the harder ones.
Yeah, solo tanking this fight is pretty tricky, it looks like we've seen him having a lot
of, being in a lot of danger trying to live that, being hit by both of the bosses.
Even though the tank buster itself isn't that nasty, having full uptime on being pelted
by the caster is not great.
Especially on the brewmaster, we've been seeing Echo working on it with Blood DK which I think
would have a lot easier time of living, but of course no mystic touch buff.
To clarify here, it's different from Kaveza where you were one tanking, right?
You can do that one tanking Kaveza to meet the DPShacking boss.
This fight, I mean, you can just one tank it and not really have any.
You're not burning reses to press the tank.
You don't necessarily know what the damage check is actually going to look like.
But here it's like, oh, it's low cost to one tank.
There's no reason not to essentially kill it.
Whereas on Kaiveze, it was a very high cost to one tank, right?
It was doable, but it was high cost.
You needed to pay that price to get the DPS that you needed to kill it with this first
resets worth of gear.
This fight is more kind of like, well, we assume the interanger will probably be somewhat
tight and we can one tank for basically free.
And once, if you actually have to bring back in a second tank, it's not that difficult
to kill.
Yeah, you wouldn't have to re-harn anything either.
It would be easy to do it.
So, for now they are continuing progression with that one tank.
It also lets Scott, who was busy in on Kaiveza for the last couple of days, go and do some gearing of his characters.
Because he does have, of course, multiple options that may be useful on Queen Ancerek.
Making sure that they all have full vaults, for instance, is pretty high value.
Coming out of this week, we are on Monday.
Of course, the NA reset is tomorrow, so very important for any final week one reset chores to get done, such as those keys.
I have a suspicion that they have as full of vaults as they're going to get on their main characters
Maybe somebody like Zasevi wouldn't
But I think like the rest of the characters probably do
Yeah, but you know, Scott has multiple tanks that might get used on Ancerek potentially
We saw Scott and Yeps playing BDK
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not right
We are seeing a comp swap right now
It looks like only 19 players in the raid right now
I believe that one warlock is being put. It's hard to see it. Yeah, a lot of Jack's UI
He's hiding the spots that would matter on under his under his camera here
Maybe we can swap over to fired ups POV spot spot looks like yeah, okay
So here here we can see the right frames. They have removed somebody and they're adding in Dazer in comes the ret Pali
Here we go. That warlock's been pulled for the third tier inner earth for the third fight
days are starting on the bench and
and showing up. So I kind of joked about this to Drydy as he was walking by ago.
Yeah, so when's the Rhett Paladin coming in? He goes, it's only a matter of time.
But interestingly, they're not swapping out the Drainster. They're keeping him in. Maybe that's
his daisers damage. What's a range for a melee here as well, which sort of makes those groups,
to be fair, you might sort of have those two ranged groups like Swap,
Yeah, you can also, you can have your Agavokers, or your avokers kind of cosplay as melee or
just depending, they're happy in either group, so it's not, you don't need to do a one for
one swap, you just can now move one of the Augs, or one of the Devs I guess, out.
Goop is Dev and saying it's Aug.
Yeah.
So either one.
So play both.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's cool.
It's very weird to me.
Going into the tier, I would have been very confident that it was zero or two Augs
on every fight, and yet a lot of guilds have been running one on some of these fights,
which we want to pretty cool yeah it's quite interesting I think that really
landed on a healthy balancing spot for our which I very possible yeah I didn't
think it was impossible right yeah especially on fights for you want to
like amplify certain damage profiles more like frosty K right your frosty cam
brute twister you've seen these at times one or even like zero augs being played
which is quite interesting but devs also pretty good too right yeah dev is
real good dev has the this issue on details where your scale commander of
So the bombardments actually don't show up on the damage meter, so they end up showing
up worse than they're actually performing, because the bombardment damage is actually attributed
on details to the players that the bombardments are proccing on, so then you'd have to go
into logs to actually look and see what the actual attribution is to the Devon Voker.
But that's why you'll see, that's why you saw three devs being run on Nexus Princess,
and they're like, spots 14th, 13th, and 12th, but they're actually in logs, spots
like 3rd, 4th, and 5th, or whatever.
sense that makes sense actually that's a visual like yeah it's the head it's the
lizards yeah nice right that's a skill commander so cool you got that you got
masses integrate you get steerable deep breath
any one of those three things would be cool on its own and that that here a
talentry gets three of them just to get a 10% gr when we press obsidian
skills yeah not bad not bad yeah it's interesting that that they've sort of
I've inherited some of Augg's issue with the details of damage meters being uh, being
bricked a bit by that.
Supportive style.
Or actually pay for greatness.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I like how they do this web as well.
Yeah.
It's so much more convenient and coordinated compared to what I've been seeing in most of Rogue
Strats at this point.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Boss route is super easy here.
So this is actually one of those damage amps you're talking about here, right?
Right.
When the boss gets stunned it's taking double damage I believe.
Yeah.
So things like Mag Queen's mandate, large damage effects, cooldowns being held for
that point in the fight.
And the further you go, there are amps like that in like that phase two and a half point
where you'll get pulled in as a raid later on and wept that boss again later on.
Or I think kind of like the seven-ish minute mark you ever take.
So optimizing around those damage, amps can net you a large amount of extra progression
on this boss health-wise, right?
Coming up here, this is that first intermission we're getting into with Skeen Splinter.
This is the shield in the boss, which you see like the range and melee, I guess
like the two clumps, the red and blue clumps rotating here counterclockwise, soaking
each other's orbs.
And behind them you have these.
Ooh, he gets hit by that back of the frontal there.
You have this group of two range, basically doing their own individual soaks behind the group?
Sort of like just not over-complicating clutter that melee comp as well.
You also have to make sure that you're soaking each of those moats because
if you actually don't end up soaking one of the most, they end up blowing up and killing the other color,
whether it be the Ranger or the Parrot or the D-Buff.
Yeah, and like right here for example, somebody has RNG and these like webs coming out, it's actually really frustrating to get you having to run like 30 yards and not get hit by this frontal.
But at the same time, leaving an orb back where he drops for his partner makes it even more complicated to soak that without wiping the raid.
Just missing an orb gives everybody a stack. At three stacks, you just die permanently. You can't be raised, you die again, it's over.
Five people dead here. I think this is probably going to end up being a wife here in just a moment.
Yeah, likely. You could be there getting dangerous more reps here. At the same time, losing that warlock means you're down to one gate as well.
So they're having a change that's tried a bit depending on how they wanted to use those two gates simultaneously, but yeah.
This is about that time roughly where that next choke point was, where Skeensman was going to do his large like,
Penta dispel, which we're getting close to, which you've...
Have we seen all 20 players alive through that dispel yet?
I don't think so.
I think they had a massive spell once or twice. It's actually right here at the spell.
Yeah, they did the massive spell, it actually worked on this ball.
Yeah. So, I mean, not fully alive, but it's almost like getting back to the last progression point in the sense that next choke point need to get through.
And then the boss is taking 100% increased damage whenever you get that Dispel on.
Yeah.
The boss is well correct.
Yes, indeed. Both the stun on him and the web on the first boss. So there's two webs, there's two webs in the first boss, which takes six players to stop the boss from hitting the wall.
So two damage amps, then Skeens player, the tall guy, would have two Dispells for double damage amp there, and then it began sort of alternating between like rooting the boss in phase three, at least starting the boss again.
I think at that point you're basically hitting range, so Goop is second place on the damage meter, but
The enhancement shaman is doing 300,000 more DPS than the dev evoker that's in second
That is uh, well, enhancement shaman might be a good spec guys might be
Maybe possibly who could have seen that missed here hmm like we had a nobody could have predicted this yeah
They're good miss a plus two. Yeah, well Ellie as well
Well, kinda outshot a little bit by Enhanced, but honestly very good.
All three Shaman specs are very good.
Yeah, Rester Shaman as well we saw it being used on Kaiveza to great effect.
Not currently in for Silicon Court.
I think that Rester Shaman suffers from the fact that Prezavoker is so good.
Yeah, I think the way that it works is that if your raid is consistently stacked up
enough to be getting hit by the Prezavoker stuff, it's pretty hard to justify dropping
one for an R.Sham.
Our shams used to have this niche of being the, okay, everybody needs to be in my healing
range or else I'm sad, Speck.
But they're actually a lot more capable of doing that, that spread healing now with those
chain heal bounces, with the Totemic hero talent tree than they used to be.
And now Presavoker is sort of the, the dominating, if everybody's in my dream breath, I'm, I'm
the best dealer in the game by a lot, Speck.
I'm, I'm gonna break the fourth wall a little bit.
You guys want to know why Dreadnest knows that?
Because Jack was in our caster room recording a video about Healist as well.
Right.
Jack was explaining the exact thing that I'll be taking those points you'll be
making them on broadcasts right now yet little spoilers for the newest Jack
video I made a little cameo in that video as well if you if you go watch it
yeah a bit of a blueprint yeah blooper was commanding
problem is about that little up to a second that's not the right word close
enough alright yeah this race to be really close to men's I should really
cool seeing a three a three dog race in a sense with method of performing pretty
well this tier barely I they got a kill do when they solidify their pavesa kill
there's a few hours after echo okay I was there's like two hours after echo
maybe something like that yeah so they're definitely in the hunt here as
well it's interesting as well because this tier is definitely going over the
reset at this point what shows guests for when this tier ends right based on
like what you see right what day yeah I'm kind of thinking it's a Saturday
What is it? What is the 27th? Yeah, unfortunately our flights are the Friday
If it is a Saturday to your little issue there, but I'm sure we can figure that out
Logistics people who love handling that sort of thing. Oh, yeah for the I personally
Don't know doing anything. So I okay. Oh, I have no life. I bet that's all right
You know, I feel like this boss I expect this boss to be a little more challenging than actually is though
I expect a lot of really wipes and just
not this foreign progression is fast. I think the fight does a little bit less
damage maybe than I anticipated. I think that was the thing that caught me a bit
off-guard. I mean we are seeing them of course still struggling to get deeper into
the fight. We're already nearly a hundred bowls in and we haven't gotten to
that 50% marker. We haven't gotten to that 60% marker. We don't even know
what the enrage check is on this fight either so I would say let's you know
we're seeing these it's it's been easier to get to it's been easier to
gets three minutes in this fight than I would have guessed but it looks like it's
still very hard to get much deeper than that into the fight. Yeah flashback to
Tindall where you had those a million phase one wipes half a minute into the
fight that's what it was like on PTR testing but it hasn't been like that
here for realsies. We have a question from chat it says this might be a
silly question but why does it always take so long to finish the race?
These are the best players in the world while Boston can't it's not
being that hard to figure out right? Yeah exactly so it's just that there
There aren't any players as good as you in here, but if you form a guild with 19 of your friends,
you could probably come in here and smoke these guys easy.
Yeah, I would say get in there, you know? Come claim that world first, it's pretty easy to do.
You give it your best. Yeah, let's go.
I like it. It's a little like no, like...
It's for the taking. The world first is still available. There's still two bosses left.
Plenty of time to get a team together.
Especially if you I mean why are they parking so slow? Yeah, why aren't they pulling right now? Yeah? Yeah, see you could just wrap a prior the boss
Just kill it. Yeah, it's we die. It's one or two options are gonna happen here
It's basically it right like you're either winning you don't very simple. So for more serious answer
What a more serious you my answer wasn't serious enough for you. I mean what what's your answer then yeah?
So I mean
All three guilder basically at this boss around the same time
So when it comes to being at a boss, especially if you're the first guild here you're the you're basically like designing the blueprint the schematic
Like for that boss progression wise
I mean you saw Nexus princess liquid have more poles on that fight than echo method by I think a decent bit because they were the first
Guild to get there designing the strat within reason, right?
I'm sure guilds had their own strap behind the scenes, but they're the first to one type that fight
They were the first guilt innovating upon strategies and depending on when guilds reach bosses
It's quite, you see it quite often in the race, where liquid echo method will trade back and forth for best percents depending on when they reach the boss.
Their sleeve schedules, their product schedules, all that kind of stuff.
But being the first guild here, seeing the mechanics for the first time, designing around that, it's not as simple as it may seem.
So definitely a bit more complicated on a boss like this, where there's no room for error as well.
I think it's also one of those things that hundreds of pulls just take time also.
Also, and not every fight is something that you can actually just like walk in in one shot
Was right meaning this this here in particular normally we don't see a bunch of over a hundred pull fights
But we've already seen about 500 pulls this a bit over actually 500 pulls if you if you count so can court
Which which isn't it's not super common to see this many pulls
But this is definitely one of the reasons that it's gonna be going as long as it is this time around
Yeah, I think if the if the question is like oh these flights you know they look
easy you're playing against a computer you have these pre-determined timings
which you'll hear PVPers make these arguments about why PvE is easy.
They're actually really quite tough to execute most of these mythic mechanics
especially with this level of gear you require a level of you know not
perfection but pretty close and the strategy as well is very intricate
The movement here is difficult all the numbers checks are pretty high all of that plus figuring out and adjusting your strategy from multiple
Is a lot of work. I think perfections are worthy to use by nexus princess nexus princess
Perfection was oh my gosh
I don't know if I've seen a boss in a while that required that perfect level of execution
Maybe like a long it reminded me of week one ragal or week two right on I guess it was oh, yeah
Yeah, Rikki Ragalongva was crazy.
Yeah.
That nicest princess, I think, is going to rarefire there in terms of boss difficulty.
I think that's going to count in, like, race for the first history.
Yeah.
Definitely a historic type of difficulty to be in the middle of a raid.
I guess the later middle half.
As we are getting into this first intermission now, we're seeing Yip's here leading the
Mark of Rage group around the boss in a little circle, as they need to go and
grab all these moats left by the other team and then keep moving in a nice group.
And what they want to do is they want to kind of lightly spread before each of these damage instances gets shot out of them so that they drop a nice spread of moats.
Because you really need to make sure that you do not soak three moats before that debuff expires or else you will get killed.
If we can keep all 20 players alive coming out of this intermission and then be able to get all five of them.
It backs down, comes back up though. That's an onk. Not bad.
that's not bad if we can get all five dispels on to the boss here I think that
we're gonna be able to see maybe even a new best here yeah pretty much we have
one better as available here as well the next mechanic you're going to see is
that scheme splinter and that the spell under the boss which we'll see I believe
in a moment after this grip that comes in the grip which really hard to the
look at that the grip is in so we have two players dead taser and exile
maybe somebody with a mark staying too close to under boss or something
you can raise one here fired up down as well you can raise fired up
for one of them here and get to that next spell coming in.
We can see the cast coming in, was that it right there?
Yeah, we have the debuffs now starting to get the spells
onto the boss.
Yep, the big booms being cast right now.
You need these five spells to go off within about three
seconds here.
Yep, they're still in the boss.
OK, so now the boss is walking around days,
taking 100% increased damage.
And the entire raid is trying
to cleave as much damage as possible while focusing down.
Yeah, but that boss up to 10% damage.
Where are they supposed to be lusting, do you think?
Is it on the four minute spymasters web
with the damage.
So, there is a start on a part of Heroic where both bosses are in a damage amp at the same
time that you can maybe try and hold a lust for, but I feel like yeah, it's maybe four
minutes, maybe it's six minutes, so that you can line up with your two and three-minute
classes, although there's not an awful lot of three-minute classes left in the game.
The next spell is coming up here as well.
The boss is going to port to the middle here in a moment.
You're going to see that next pentate spell set coming in momentarily.
If we can make it past this, already being a best pull here, oh, there's a lot
of rate damage going here as well.
You're gonna have a spread coming in.
Okay, six players still alive. Dispel three assigned to him back here, so they have an ordering of this.
Now two...
Get another one, get spelled off.
Now we've killed one more person.
Nice.
Cool. Okay, so 16 people alive.
I mean, obviously it's not perfect, but we have a new best, right?
Yeah.
We're actually 10% off of our new best.
And this is looking pretty solid.
I think we might be able to see even further into this fight.
Could be a reclamation of that rank one spot on our point
leaderboard here.
What's the next big mechanic that's going to happen?
It's the intermission about to start here, right?
The spike, yep, here comes the intermission.
This is going to cause weird spikes
coming up from the ground at the dodge for about half a minute.
So there's a pretty good chance that the boss is now shielded.
The health will not be moving from here for a little while.
And we have to find the way to do this intermission.
Yeah, lust to get through this intermission makes sense.
And again, we've got a similar strategy
where the melee groups of each of the marks
are rotating around the boss in this counterclockwise
Direction and every time that big damage it comes out there then going and soaking the motes
Oh my got the other group left behind here, too
It is like so much faster than her like it is troll that you have to soak the motes while these spikes are going
One blue one there we got it just work and we made it out of the intermission very nice
All right, okay, and we rotated back to the battle rest of that 430 mark. So we actually ended up getting dry knee
Back rest. Yeah, we're good here
We've got 17 at players alive as the final phase of the fight starts now
Unfortunately, the bosses still have a lot of health here for this last phase.
Not sure I love that.
I think what happens next is a grip in followed by a charge.
So everybody's going to get gripped in, and you're going to get webbed with a random person,
and you need to break most of those pairs, but you need on Mythic to keep three of them
grouped together, as then you have to stop the charge.
I'm extra scared of it.
Here it is.
So right is called here, which means this is somebody who's supposed to break their
web.
You can see there are a few people who are trying to keep their webs.
Oh my goodness.
But you have the powers over here so this charge was gonna make it except. Oh my gosh. Oh, okay.
We have to get that, like, oh, the web is broken. Okay, there's the webs now.
There's gonna be a wipe. That is a wipe. Bang, it's the wall. But look at that boss HP.
Nearly at that 50% mark. Yeah. That is huge progression. Four team liquid there,
and that's gonna help them reclaim place number one on our Coinbase leaderboard.
Let's go. They just shot up from third place to first place on our Coinbase leaderboard.
That is crazy. That was good prog.
We hadn't seen them be able to make it through that first five
dispel.
And it was one of those situations
that after they made it through the first time,
it seemed like everything just kind of clicked,
even though they had a couple of deaths.
Days are going down.
Impact ended up going down.
Fired up and draining it.
Various points were also dead.
They made it to the 430 mark.
They popped that on.
Everybody was able to actually be alive.
They made it through that scare of phase
where that boss is shielded and you have those spikes coming out.
Now, you probably want to lust that, all things considered.
I think you're going to probably want to lust somewhere at some point in the future.
Yeah, the boss is shielded here.
So if you can make it through this phase, you'd rather not use the lust, right?
The lust is getting a little bit less value here.
I mean, it's not the end of the world.
You do have to do all that damage eventually anyway.
So it could be, you could make an argument for an intermission lust,
but I suspect this was more of a progression lust.
Yeah, a progress here, right?
We got here a couple of people are dead.
Let's hit that lust.
Let's get out of here and see that last phase.
Yeah.
So we see these burrows coming out here.
After this what we saw is basically both bosses have one final like special ability cast left in a sense
You're gonna see after this burrow phase is over the boss will pull everybody in you have to actually hold three of those root links
To that root the boss is gonna charge the wall
It's an easy one shot on the rate of not done which we saw
But you're also gonna have that burrow overlapping in a minute here
Which makes it exceptionally hard to live through all that with that insane link damage lasting a while as well
All right, we need people start spanning USA in the chat
Yeah, that's whole, miles and laps.
Yeah.
Okay, so basically the way that it works on Heroic at least is you have the grip in and
then the charge, then you have a set of disbells and then there was a really nasty overlap
on Heroic which I suspect will persist into Mythic where you have a charge and disbell
set happening simultaneously.
That is going to be really interesting to see how they manage that.
As you can see, Driny tried briefly to break his web and then they kind of realized,
actually we still need that one. But unfortunately, yeah, we saw one of them getting broken early
and they weren't able to get all three to stop that charge. That was why we ended up eventually
wiping there, although of course, we had had a few earlier deaths there. So, cleaning up
those earlier deaths, I mean, the proof of concept is there for phases one and two. One thing
I'm tremendously worried about here is that health presented on the boss. Yeah, there
50% coming out in the 5 to 6 and a half minutes into the fight, so at that pace, that's a 13-minute encounter that they would be setting up for.
Yeah, what's the average?
Less than 13 minutes.
I thought it was like 9, but it's not 13, I'll tell you that much.
Now of course, there were players dead.
And there's damage amps to be...
And there's damage amps to be...
And they already had some of those.
And their lust sucked for damage.
sucked for damage. Yeah, our less was not great. But I mean, you're the the boss is
gonna get the same amount of shield every pull. You're always gonna have to break
that shield. So it's kind of just always extra health you have to do. That's true.
It's not that bad to less it. That's true. You would want to less ideally a
good damage amp with cooldowns though. What is this? USA, George Washington USA
football, USA inches, USA cups. Cope on today day year year. John Deere
NASCAR? That's right.
Where'd Mariko log in? That's a good point.
Yeah, all right. I'm actually really surprised by the cadence of abilities in this fight.
I feel like we talked about it a bit already.
It's basically like it's just the heroic cast sequence now.
Yeah, it's the same speed as Heroic. There's like downtime between each set.
It's not as anywhere near technique as Tindra was on Mythic Cat and Heroic.
Yeah, that was the Mythic difference on Tindra.
One of seven Mythic differences on Tindra was that the cast sequence was just accelerated up to 11.
and it seems like Silicon Court, probably due to the moat's mechanic,
hasn't had that treatment applied to it between testing and release.
I will say, it's probably good. The moat mechanic does look like the hardest part. Just how they have to position.
They're basically moving clockwise at any given moment around this room.
Just trying to make sure that they're able to sweep up and pick up the moats from the other, you know,
basically if you're affected with rage, you go pick up the paranoia moats and vice versa.
So and so they're just like kind of constantly moving and that's why you see all of those melee DPS
Just trying to do as much damage as possible
And it's it's one of the situations too that I think the melee DPS are a little bit more favored
But then you have like the Devavoker and that Desterlock and that that mage that are all doing pretty good damage
But they're having to play their own game, right? They're paired up with other ranged DPS that don't want to move as much
Yeah days are also coming in pretty much immediately getting a massive new basketball here
Maybe he is the glue that's holding liquid together this tier.
Retribution orb deleted, however.
Yeah.
Retribution orb.
Howl red aura.
Daythor is the red aura.
Red aura.
Coming in.
Gigachat.
Absolutely.
Not visible on the damage meters on this pole, but yet.
Yet, exactly, yeah.
It's a passive buff to the raid.
Passive buff to the raid.
Extra progression along the line.
Actually, I think that bringing in an extra external
in the form of a sack is probably really nice.
I was going to bring that to his build, yeah.
It seems like a pretty solid choice overall.
It was kind of funny, Dazer came in on Nexus Princess and then proceeded to not die because
Red Paladin is unkillable on the boss as well.
And I wonder if the same thing holds true to this fight?
Yeah, Sanctified Plates is the most absurd talent you've ever existed.
Better than Third War, Caterpoint.
Yep, that's also a good talent there.
Disgusting Paladins, I can't stand missed this game.
Okay, Mr. Warlock.
Yeah, it was actually ironic that the Warlock is...
I sat up and I was like, they're gonna grill me for this and they're gonna get you for this one.
Hmm it didn't even break my dark pact. Dark pact is stronger than some entire classes kit. Yeah
It's just like strong this year actually this boss. I feel like the warlock defensive profile is pretty well
Okay, yeah, yeah, it's bad versus it was bad on Kadeza. Yeah rot into like a one-shot
That's where the that's where the warlock profile is actually pretty bad
Where's that? Kadeza. Yeah, but said we're getting one shot pedals
I don't hear a thing.
I bought into a one-shot.
The Warlock profile is not great for it, but that's just so seldomly happens that it doesn't
matter.
Just pop dark background cool down.
It'll last long enough for the next one.
It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
Yeah, just permanently continue.
What?
45-second cool down, by the way.
Yeah.
Yes, but you know, there's always more.
All right.
Well, I mean, I do expect this boss.
I would venture to guess this boss is some...
Wait, I didn't...
I'm trying to think of my...
What's that?
The hotpot here had a 1.7% whiteball on Texas Princess.
Yeah, it was about an hour and a half, two hours ago, you overtake.
I mean, they're right there.
Yeah.
It's also 2 AM for them, so they're probably done.
Lifely?
What way is 7-2 is not?
Hold on, it's 12 from CST, so it's 4 AM for them.
4 AM.
Yeah.
Almost certainly done.
Yeah.
It would be wild if they were continual.
Has there ever been a race-to-world first skill that has pulled at 4 AM local
time?
Liquid back in Sanctib we're going until like 3 a.m. But as I was we came back at 4 a.m. Right? Yeah
I guess there's the early start. Yeah, it's a 4 5 a.m. I think rough it was for it's been waking up at 5
Yeah, you're being built start at 5 on the reset
But I think 4 a.m. Is probably the least played hour of the of the day not for me though not for you
Of course not nor I yes, so that chatter and chat earlier for my guild rate to 4 a.m. Yeah, exactly. There you go
optimize around it's a
Perfections uncharted tarot ironic says that we did an old year until 6 a.m. On Gahoon. I remember the
I do actually have that was televised, but yeah, I
Remember the seeing the pictures of the 600k Gahoon why then there was the reset incident. Yeah, there were there was
Mistakes were made back in that tier. Do you extend? No? I think it's a very very very very very
No, the answer is always no, you don't extend unless you're within like 10% killing that
boss and Gohoom was even somewhere around there, like a recent of Gears brings so much, especially
even if like, I don't think so, I think this raid will be incredibly easy to re-clear as
well and just to clarify we're talking about Oldeer many months ago, years ago this
one.
Yeah, months ago.
Dude, my life just runs together at this point, I don't know.
It was many months ago, it's a good divide, but yeah, so this Tuesday?
It's almost impossible to imagine a situation where you'd ever extend a lockout as a Racial
First Guild in the modern era, yeah.
Like it's very- the lockout extend-o button is for like two-day guilds.
I don't even know what you would- because like in the Racial First, they're rating
quite legitimately 16 hours a day.
Right, it's just so hard for there to be a boss that you'd have to be like at
0.3% on a boss and like know that your great vault is going to kill it and
You know and there has to be really hard bosses that are hard to re-clear for lick
I actually don't think that liquid is ever in a situation where they would extend
I do think that there is maybe a world where echo would wake up at 5 a.m on reset and extend the lockout
I think we could if you're in spot where you and echo are both at 0.3% on a boss echo are actively pulling it on their first reset
that your secondary set hits
and you've been wiping it 0.3% 10 times
because it's a really tight end rate
and you have to pull the boss.
But you don't know for sure
that they can't kill it with first reset skier
and so they are pulling the boss right now.
So you wake up, you open your vaults
and you get in there and you extend it.
That is not impossible, but it's very hard for that to happen.
I could see it would be more likely
with Echo than Liquid if Liquid is like
about to wake up and about to actually start pulling
boss and then like echo your own like your first reset and like was gonna be
hitting their second yeah although again I feel like you just you take your
reclear and most of it like we don't kill it you would in general yeah because
the reclear is just so much the reclear is so powerful yeah absolutely gets so
much gear from a reclear reclear has actually been very good for you know
yet like you guys were saying two-day guilds that you know would struggle to
re-kill tendril in a oh you mean ascending the lockout yeah I think
That is the main use case for that lockout extension button is if you're in a guild, you know, now you're seven weeks into the tier, your gear is good, obviously you'd like to re-clear, but you want that progression time more, right, and you don't want to sacrifice half of your week's progression time on re-caring.
Okay, I think we got some moggs that we can take a look at while the guild is talking about some week aura stuff and some strategy stuff.
Of course, if you want your mogg rated, you can go to TL.gg slash RWF dash donate.
We are raising money for the Santa Monica Animal Shelter.
What is this flame draeneye?
Yeah, life force draeneye, uh, at least I don't see all that often in Rep Hallidon.
Yeah, there's that one of the artifact weapon skins for Rep Hallidon.
I kind of like the color of this draeneye compared to the Mog.
I like it as well. Yeah, I like the kind of, uh, I don't know the art terms for it, but it's all kind of fits together, you know.
Tell us what you rate this. I want to hear your rating first.
Uh, seven and a half? Eight?
Is it high for you?
I think it's good luck. Yeah, okay. Is it because of the tail or it's just
What are you applying I'm not applying anything. I'm just wondering what the rating is from I would get I would give this at any point to
I give it a nine point five. I think this is really good. Okay. Oh, I like it
I do cookie dough the dwarf. Yes, tell kooky doodles. Yeah, exactly
It's like the cookie dough from the guild, very technical, unlike his name, so I like
the stat.
It's a classic, but from the old tree root, hold that up a little eight quests in the
Elwin Forest, very nice.
Yeah, that's a 10.
Yeah, I think a 9.6.
That's a 10 for you?
That's a 10.
9.6 and go on.
Any time we've got a goofing log, or like a simple mug, a classic mug, and a good
name cookie dough, great name for a character, yeah.
I believe you believe that though, sorry. Shut up! Dreadless has told you that a few times,
it doesn't mean that you have to keep reusing it. My dad told me that. He said that my whole
life to me. I've been ridiculed forever. I believe that. I believe you believe that
as an all-time great claims.
All right, we're underway.
Just after that progression pull,
hoping to see that point again,
that is going to be the crucial variable for this fight.
Whether this boss could die potentially today,
and also whether it's a 150-pole boss or a 450-pole boss,
one of the most crucial variables for that is gonna be,
are we going to be able to avoid phase one wipes, right?
Are we gonna be able to get to a point
where phase one is clean and consistent,
Or are we gonna have one of those progress graphs
that's kinda spiking back up and down
where every hole we're losing that momentum
we're wiping in phase one again?
I feel like this is a fight where
you'll actually see more consistent progression.
Yeah, I think so as well.
Because unlike Kavesa, there's not just like unfair,
the boss kills you, there wasn't much you could do.
We don't have a battle race.
Yeah, there was this weird situation
where they just had zero battle roast for the entire fight
so they'd have to reset it over and over again.
Right.
Yeah, there's also the fact of the matter,
You just have the damage for this fight.
I mean, we've seen six and half minutes into the fight.
We're expecting about three more minutes
till soft or almost hard rage in this fight.
And you're at 50%.
But I will say, like right now,
seeing that actual first boss we wept there,
there are multiple damage amps for the course of this fight.
And looking back at Brew Twister, Kivesa,
there are plenty of ways you can optimize your damage.
I'm sure analysts are looking at things.
Maybe we can pull seeders off this ad set
into that damage amp.
Maybe we want to move less to a damage amp.
Maybe you hold your Mag Queen's mandates
for later on for other damage amps.
There are a lot of ways to optimize around it,
But 50% is a pretty high amount on the client. It's not 5%. 50% is a lot!
So mechanically, not as challenging, but if I would venture gas a lot of holes in this fight are going to be based on damage.
The damage check.
We had two deaths there with the Jernako and Rubens. Now Nick going down.
I suspect this is going to end up being another wipe.
This is the part that they've been wiping at the most is this intermission.
And then from this intermission going into that five dispel on the boss as well.
Those are probably the two most common points that they've been wiping so far.
Yeah, that choke point of that Penta Dispel, you said the five dispells it.
They've been nothing to mask the first one, I believe.
You might see a shift in individual dispells there, though.
When we get to it in a little bit here, we do indeed have a few dead.
We can keep, we can stagger along for a bit more here.
It should have a better res in about a minute and a half, but like we talked about,
the cadence of this fight feels a good bit slower than I think most expected.
You can make some decent progress along the way, but just straight up surviving here and seeing programs of the fight
without there being a crazy amount of nasty overlaps you can deal with comparatively to heroic.
They're actually continuing on with this pull even with Nick dead.
I assume that Nick was gonna...
We're not at the point in progression yet where you call wipes after one or two deaths, I don't think.
Yeah, it's more just like the healer being down causes a bit of a...
Yeah, it's tough, but we do have that...
We do have the break bloodlust in case of emergency button available.
to make it through, say, the second intermission with down a healer.
Unfortunately, it looks like we didn't quite land our disbells onto the boss.
I think that third disbell jumped into the player.
Yeah, unfortunately, there. Goop is up next to the dispell,
but I think somebody was too close to melee and jumped to them.
That's one issue with that, yeah.
You have to be aware of getting into a spelling or not near anybody else.
It can jump to you instead of the boss.
What happens actually if it jumps to you?
Do you have to dispell it as well?
I'll spell it as well, yeah.
It's not like it doesn't do or something.
Wipe you, but it's it will it will wipe you it's not that it wipes you instantly
Right exactly like you can react to it if you have an extra disbelly you can recover from it
If you have like a dwarf on whoever it accidentally jumps to it's it there is counterplay to it
But most of the time if that happens, it's probably gonna result in white whenever it doesn't spend on herok
It was always just like don't mess it up. Yeah
So easier than it may seem yeah, if you average herok pug though
Well, that's a
It's not an option.
I don't think that this raid for Heroic and honestly, probably whenever you're able to
plug in something that is not too bad, it starts to really ramp up once you get to that
like, brood twister.
Right.
The hardest part of the bug is to hear Heroic is likely a brood twister.
I would venture against actually breaking eggs consistently, probably the hardest
part of the bugs.
Yeah, brood twister on Heroic you can only miss one egg per section and it has
to always be hitting the, you have to break that innermost one on the very
first go, you have to break all of the next ring by the second go.
HBS check is also pretty steep on Brew Twisters, especially compared to the fights that came
before it.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's fair.
Anyways, sounds like we have been preparing a monster energy listen-in and we can listen
to hear what the raiders have been talking about.
We had a recently new best pull and so kind of, I think that's an opportune time
to be able to listen in as to what's been going on there, so check that out.
Is everyone here goop is on heroic when you got dispelled were goop is it went to the boss in mythic it doesn't
Very unlikely you have to stand
Directly under the boss as long as everyone will understand that we talked about this two poles ago
By the way and showed that but just as a second example
You guys have to stand under the boss or you will do what just happened to us, right?
Boom, let's get it. I'll go the peels and people. They don't feel so good
Yeah, they hurt a little bit.
He went out of care, but he's got big.
Oh, look at his mouth.
He's opening, dude.
His eyes are crazy.
Okay, we're rotating in three, two, one.
And ads are swanning now.
It adds under the boss.
Okay, rain.
And we're rotating.
Give me space here.
Yep.
Get out of the way.
You're not going to do anything.
My bad, don't be.
Okay, ads are swanning now.
Okay, add your spawning right now, and then we're getting a rain and a frontal and then this is the giga rotate. You got a weird one arranged
Okay, we're rotating
three
two one go and we're blowing up here. We're gonna be out of all
Good call by the way, we're blowing up here. Okay intermission spots. I would like a time when the intermission actually starts
Whatever we have now
Hey
first pulse
quicker
We're blink friends
Hey first pulse like we should
Yeah, not he must have gotten knocked into me. Yeah, there's a couple red orbs. Oh, we just look I
Think we're gonna die. I think this is a go-next angle
The blue team normally almost lapsed the red team, but maybe because we're a melee and they work as more
So we're dropping
Really all the melee in that group are over. So I don't think that's really a thing
Like I think we're also cheating before the orbs come out and then there's always like two or three
Maybe we assign a captain to each group
I mean you should just stop on the last red orb or like the last opposite of that so
You don't have to make it all the way to the soaks initially you can be one over from it
I mean for the next one you just stop where the last orb of the opposite color was so
you don't continue rotating for no reason.
Yeah, for the next one.
Yeah, correct.
Is that what's happening?
Let me see.
Okay, that's what I was saying was happening, some people are cheating.
Alright, let's watch the blue group.
Let's watch it as a group.
Okay, so the intermission starts, which by the way, this is what I want for intermission.
It says like a countdown here, it's like intermission two, and then there's nothing
happening, nothing happening, no timers, no timers, no timers, it's beginning.
Right?
weird. For these spawns, you guys would shoot right at this and you would just probably wait
here. Oh, you guys went all the way. That's fine. And you just wait for that to go off.
You move in. Now you would stay here.
The other is like running.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That's a laugh of us.
Gotta go, man.
Yeah, you guys, yeah, blue just needs to soak their shit and stay still. You guys
years are fucking moving it's a race man it's not a race
that's a good one way and all those far orbs just listen to that they're like
around them when you're clear and stuff so we have to go so far to set the
boomers yeah you guys are hard grieving we're doing like extra dodges too
That is so nice.
Fuckin' blue.
You got it.
The weak aura now is very good.
The ticks are exactly right.
Shack is a little suspicious.
If he wanted us to hear, we'd let us hear.
Rotate here.
We have funnels on you guys like every time.
Get that knock here.
Fuck killed it.
one was on there boss. This cleared one, it's actually by the way it's like cleared in there
so it still works. Yes I cleared it and I was like okay. Can you please red, blue, blue
people? Anyone? Yeah I got him. Okay spread out, rotate. Six isn't that easy enough.
Okay frontal on blue here and then you give Reap Yip's room, Dronakko and Zevi.
I shot him back and forth. Watch out red now that he's coming through. And waiting,
get ads of the boss while we're waiting to rotate. It's good rotating in three, two, one, now.
Poles are going up in five, four, three, two. Good job. Few ones looking great.
All right, somehow a blue and a red ran into each other right here last pull. How did that
happen? It was like right now, like what could have even happened for that to occur?
I'll check. It had to be a Bernardio diff.
I was not that nice let's pull it was like you interact right into each other
right you think that's not true but it's fine
so we're making it up
we're flying then let's get to stuff we're both
Bernadio you'd want to move early yeah because I'd up can't go too close to the
screen right now Bernadio you put your headshelves forward
I'm on the other side.
Yo, Blue, we're shitting right here.
Not over there.
Blue, you soak your words and you stop.
You shit where you eat.
You shit where you eat.
That's over, by the way.
Oh, it's over.
Wait for it to go over and then soak your words.
Have you shit?
Or more over these teams?
Have you shit?
Is that it again?
The white things just was fine.
That felt so nice.
OK.
Be sure you get the opposite marks.
OK, red board text.
Go hard left, hard right, red.
Blue you go front left front right do not fucking soak until you go out
I'll call first to spell but soak orbs first everyone get your orb soaks now
who needs getting dispelled in three two one now and daiser in three two one
fired up in three two one now bang after the frontal in three two he's stunned
I'm saying it's like a...
I'm gonna...
I'm saying it's good and Riven's now.
No point in that, GG.
How does it go to me? I'm not even in the middle of the race.
I mean, I could have just been this all I didn't even know.
Yeah, I was on the river. I wasn't sure.
It slowed it down because I called for you to get bopped
and we had to lay the dispel. It's absolutely what caused that to happen.
I think we should have just sold them.
Let Rivens go in, let's go in and sing his part.
That's... that's... that's... I mean, yeah, but...
The one still weaker works too, like numbers like four and five shoot externals too.
Also, is it a problem if four and five just go under like, what happens at worst?
I don't know, I'll do it.
I'm gonna get against two sacks and you just...
Oh, these externals.
I feel like it's not even close, we just need to not have people get stunned or die or be in our spot right now.
I think we need to bring it back. I'm assuming that would be it. Look at the race discord.
Oh yeah. Oh they just want you to 2 tank right?
I mean they're just gonna keep buffing the boss until they are cranking the tank.
Oh then I see 1000% one.
So piercing strikes base damage by 250, the volum by 1000.
Wait what? They have to do 0.
Does it fall off faster?
Yes, okay. Yeah, it's a situation is decreased to 36 seconds and the health is decreased by five
All right, so
By five or five percent
Let's get Scott in for doing the normal right now
I mean honestly, I like that shit like dude the whole this one taking shit's ranch. Yeah, I
Think the boss's health might have needed to get nerfed or so, but by five is nothing
Welcome to the tank.
Welcome to the tank.
We can go.
Thank god.
How long is left in that normal?
They're on that, they're on Sloth and Court.
Yes, not long.
Oh, cool.
Like 15 minutes maybe?
That should be the fucking default.
Just stay in the next mini-range.
Who on the blue team is going to be out for Scott?
I'm assuming it's Dazer,
but I think it could be a warrior too.
warrior too.
We're cleared.
Later don't chill, let's fucking go.
We're cleared.
Front on blue.
W.
Hashtag 3-0.
Screw you.
I like it, I like it.
Yeah, I like it too.
I'm with Susan.
What are you expecting?
BDs rotating in 3, 2, 1.
I see extra red orbs here.
There was a mistake on red side maybe, but it can be solid.
Four more red orbs, pulling up in five seconds.
One more.
We're good.
Like a web bomb cleave there or something?
Maybe, I think we're too safe.
We're very close.
Hell, it should just live right now.
I think you're right, Dronius.
I think an external of four and five is really good.
All right, so we're back with that monster energy listening.
Welcome back to everybody in chat.
I felt like that was a lot more productive in terms of what we were hearing.
It sounds like Blizzard might be looking to hotfix the boss,
removing the ability to be able to one-tank the fight.
Yeah, so it sounds like the change isn't implemented just yet,
but it will be coming soon to reduce the ability to one-tank this fight
by increasing the damage of the tank attack, the piercing strike,
and potentially the duration of the debuff that it leaves behind as well.
There is a compensation nerf to the boss's health coming as well
By either five or five percent, Shaq was unclear on which of those it was going to be.
Five or five, okay.
Either five flat or five percent, so we're not sure which of those two it will be.
It could be either one, honestly.
It could be either one, yeah.
We'll have to check once it actually does get implemented, but either way, Scott is
currently finishing up a normal run on one of his characters, and hopefully that'll
be just about done whenever that change does get applied and they'll figure out
who to swap in or who to swap out for him.
There was a bit of a discussion as to who was supposed to be coming out, whether it was
Dave's or whether or not it was one of the Warriors.
I don't really...
What do you guys have preference-wise in terms of the rep-powder versus the Warrior on this
fact?
I think the Warrior's better.
It's probably the Rep-powder I've been pulling out, likely.
It's not an adventure, I guess.
I mean, I guess it depends a bit on damage profiles I would have looked for, but I mean...
Yeah, they were talking about the value of a defensive external on the fourth and
fifth targets of those swarms, because they have to hold that for quite a while,
It does quite a lot of damage on Mythic difficulty.
So, Dazer does bring one of those as a DPS player,
but of course Rally brought by the Warriors as well.
I'm kind of thinking you could drop your second enhancement shaman.
Obviously, enhance does a lot of damage on this fight,
but it doesn't bring anything external.
It brings a Windrush Totem, which is nice,
but I don't think quite as good as Zac, Bubble, Bop, Rally.
I wonder what the damage to the boss looks like
versus the damage to the Scarebs too,
because it might be one of those things that the Enhancement Shaman is just too valuable to draw.
Yeah, the Enhancement Shaman boss damage is going to be better than its overall for sure.
Although its overall is...
Yeah, Impact is doing something for that boss as well.
Yeah, well, obviously.
I think it's the Impact Diff, honestly, being real.
I've been crushing every single fight.
Yeah, it's here. Like, it's just the Impact Diff.
But...
Hardly not far behind either, but I would be...
I think my instinct would be to take out one of them rather than a warrior or a ret-pally.
So, building upon that, what do you think Scotland is playing in this fight?
Blood decay? Or maybe guardianship? Blood decay?
I would like to do grips.
So, the grips are nice. You already have grips from your frost decays,
and there's not too many of those adds, you have two frost decays.
If you play bear, you could just swap in one for one, the bear for the moonkin.
So that could work out, although that is an extra person in melee for one less person at range.
But maybe that's good. I don't know, the moonkin overall has looked good on a lot of these bulls.
But that's pretty good for the first one as well, right?
Like, you can do quite a lot of burst on that moonkin
into those targets with the 100% health amp, right?
I think the balance druid is okay.
I don't think that they have like the most first damage ride.
Do you think the moonkin is bad?
I think you run into an issue of you,
you have too many melee on the spots.
There's not enough ranged spots.
I think the balance druid occupies like a pretty,
yeah, so you want to cut a melee for a tank,
have them range your tank.
I think I can get behind that.
Yeah.
I don't know what I'm thinking.
In that case, I do think rep Halley's
the most obvious swap,
but I would be tempted to think about the Enhance instead.
I think the Moonken is pretty good here.
I don't think it's like insane or anything.
It's obviously not like top and bottom like that,
but it's like a middle of the passion.
This could be a prop alley fight as well.
It's not something that we've seen
in a lot of the other fights, but yeah.
I mean, if they have a geared prop alley,
I think this could be the off utility from it.
Bops, Bell Warding, both potentially very good.
And you don't actually have to tank a lot
of damage on this fight,
Which, Prop Alley's not very good at doing that this tier, but it is good at other things, and it's actually pretty good at tanking the bolts from this game spinner.
If you're standing in your concentration, you can block that spell, which is pretty good.
So, I don't know, they're not great against the physical damage, but you would just only have to taunt a few of those piercing strikes, and otherwise you could basically always be holding the caster, and let Yip's always behold the melee guy.
Hmm, interesting.
That would be something I'd be thinking about here, but an important variable for that would be if you have a geared prop alley, which I'm not sure they do.
But Yps has played Paladin a good bit for this.
Yeah!
I'm sure it's a relatively geared point where you can go in tank mythic silken court without seeing a whole lot of action from previous bosses this tier.
See mainly Blood Decay and Blood Decay Guardian Druid and Yps not really playing that Paladin very much.
Blood Decay is really good for being an extremely durable tank.
That was part of the reason it was so good on Overnax was not just the grips,
but also the durability that's back was extremely rewarded.
But this doesn't seem like a fight where I think once you move to the two tanks,
neither tank is gonna be in much danger.
So I think the Blood Decay, I don't know, I'd kind of be tempted to,
like I just play the Guardian in that case and just play it in the Catweaving build
and try and do a lot of damage.
Oh, you'd go for more damage as opposed to having to pay advice and the grips for the Scarabs?
Exactly, like I think the grips are sufficiently covered by the two Frost Decays.
I wouldn't need, I wouldn't feel like Blood Decay is actually bringing anything to this fight.
Pretty valid.
So it seems like they're on a five minute break, probably waiting for those hot fixes to be applied to the boss.
In the meantime, there's some transmogs that we could be looking to rate.
As well, of course, as part of our charity drive incentive, you can go to TL.GG.RWF-DONATE.
We are partnering up with the Santa Monica Animal Shelter, so a local animal shelter here in California.
And so this is a...
That is a cow.
It is a cow.
That's a cow, that'll see that.
How do you pronounce that name, Tiddles?
I think it's probably like Daniel, right?
Hareniel? Hareniel, yes.
It could be here, Neil.
Here, Neil? Oh, okay.
Where is Neil? Here, Neil.
You know?
Callum, what's he just checking us in?
Callum, what's he just checking us in?
I'm just enumerating the possibilities here.
Alright, I think it's like you said,
It's like, I've got the arcane, cure and torque kind of vibes to it, sort of it, that's
my typical mage set.
Yeah, like the gloves are pretty discordant with the rest of what they've got going on
here, especially from the blue accents on the sides and the back of these gloves.
Very much, I feel like out of place with the kind of purpley stuff that's going on
with the rest.
Yeah, okay, I'll go with seven, seven, eight, nothing above an eight can be given
to a mage because they're mages, but seven, eight, it's solid.
That's unfair.
I was thinking like a 3.
Well, there is an Arcane Mage talent called the Rule of Threes, so it would be thematic.
This is it, yes.
I'm going to give it a 7 as well.
I can't bring myself to give lower than a 7 to anybody.
So you're just going to give them a 0.
Yeah, a little backhanded confidence there.
That's what you're saying, 10 is a bad person.
Exactly, yeah.
These people are donating a charity and you're giving them a 3.
That's messed up.
You can just give them a 7 out of 10.
Yeah, a 7 on a scale from a 7 to 10.
I know that, believe me.
Yeah, so no I like this one actually do and I feel like you don't see an awful lot of female door and mages
So it's an interesting as I do like the tour. I'm not a hater of the tour and I think yeah, that's the mod
All right next up. I like the weapon as well. I love that weapon. All right, we've got
Davros the frost DK Zandalari troll with two thunderfuries
Wow, I like the I like the pirate with the Zandalari. I feel like that kind of that does go kind of crazy
8.2. Oh, it's better than 8.2 for me. This is a 9.3. All right the frost DK with two thunderfuries
I should I like this one a lot. I don't think it's super complicated
I think the shoulders kind of fit the we got red we got blue. We got this kind of cold steel vibe
Holding it all together. It goes with the Thunderfuries. Yeah, this is excellent. I'm thinking like a
Seven seven and a half. All right. All right. Would you try this? I'll give it a nine point three
Okay, point two. All right next up. What do we got?
Yeah. Crit-maw.
From no SNH.
I feel like I need...
Interesting. I have never seen that back attachment on a non-rogue or DH.
What does it make?
This does not look like a mage-mawg.
It does not at all, yeah.
It's a rogue, I feel like.
Well, it is a mage.
Yeah, it is.
That's a venthyr back attachment.
This is quite the mawg. I think this is a 9.3 from me.
Nice. Stealing my rating from last one, I see.
I don't I don't know what you said on the last one. I'm honestly listening, but hey
You know the Zareth mortis swords as well of those tattoos on the lightsaber things
Yeah, that's had titles. It makes you think demon hunter again, but yeah, we're all doing our vibes here off-hand. Yeah
What would you get? What did you get this one? Dreyness?
It was an 8.9. I feel like 8.5. Yeah, I like this one even though it doesn't it doesn't scream to be mage
I think it's just like
Generally a pretty good-looking log. Yeah, I like that
I like the ones that also don't
They're not just like super class all in and it's kind of one to kind of subvert the expectations for the class
That's a pretty cool
There's Miss Lady definitely a priest mug in after the way after the ways that's a priest artifact weapon as well
Yeah, besides that almost a coffee large weapon
That is a comically large weapon. I think this is fine. It's like a I like the crown to be fair
Yeah, I think this is this in capitalics what an app what a I don't know a priest mog looks like
Gray some whites a little purple here, and I think it's a seven nine
Point nine. Yeah, that's how I think this is very good mug
All right feel like it's like average pre-smog. I guess like a six probably staff is nice
Those is very
Tells very stingy with the ratings. Yeah, I just give I just give fair ratings in I
I feel like my co-commitators don't start at, I think at 8.6, here's a Mave Shock, a
Milk Kul Terran, that is a beefy mug, looking like Kalamazee after some late night Taco Bell,
that's right.
Five Doritos Lugosakos are locked in, locked in.
An enhancement shaman, this looks sick.
Those shoulders are so cool as well.
Yeah.
Where they from?
I think those are last tier. I think they were made maybe the Amiracil tier shoulders
I think this is maybe PVP coloration of them though. Oh, I don't play that part. I would get this like a nine
I think I really like a five. Yeah, I like the axe very cool. Yeah, these are the this is an enhancement artifact weapon skin
Oh a five do hammer in the one hand and then it gives you a kind of elementally one in the offhand. Hmm
It is very good. I love the beard color and stuff really really fits with it
I think the the alliance tabber too. Yeah, this is gonna be my first ten for non meme reasons
Did you only give mobs ten?
Yeah, like I I've given a lot of tens for good for like really funny names and you know funny mobs
But this one is just I don't know it just it's all working for me. Hold on wait
We keep keep a maveshock on on screen
Hey, yep, can you come rate this mog for us real quick?
Give us give us your thoughts on this guy
This this male Colterran on the left side of screen plays an enhancement shaman
That looks beautiful.
There you go.
There you go.
A beautiful for MIPS.
Beautiful lab 10.
Beautiful lab 10, love it.
Great work.
You have to also have a nice guy.
He's Canadian.
I love MIPS.
Giving him a bit more than he probably should.
Is our break timer been extended or has my...
The break timer did get extended.
I saw everybody was like standing in the hallway congregating just talking about something.
They're probably doing the hotfix.
I would venture again.
Yeah, it makes sense.
Also going to be waiting for Scott to finish as normal.
Dude, what is this hat that is on this camera?
That is Nialotha Plate.
Oh, interesting.
Looks like my hair in the back, look at that.
Mythic Nile at the plate.
It does look like your hair.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
I would say yours is a little bit more like
Lovecraftian horror than that though.
I do it again, I aim to please.
There we go, alright. I think this is good.
I think this is part of the love set
that came out. Yeah, the trading post set.
Oh, okay. Makes sense.
Turn a little thigh there, Teddles.
I think this is an A2.
They do what are you shaking head at that old since the fact that you like I don't know
You're obviously you might have missed it. You know, there's no telling this one though
Yeah, I was about to say this I can hurt the rating here. I'll give this like a six and a half
I think it's pretty good. Yeah, it's all right here and
It's all right. I like that. Yeah, I even ate now. We're in a point. What is that picture of me? Oh
Oh
That was a 25k donation to cut his hair last year. Wow. I don't know my condolences. It's for cherry though
That's how hard you guys. Yeah, he's uh, he's regrown all of it for this year
It was a nice long wait between last year and this year. So true. This is a good mug like 10 months
Maybe there's another mug a new new a new baneu ten
Wow, that's solid. Oh a serve hunter. You're the spear, baby. What's that weapon?
What's that? Sure. I think that's the dreadflame enchant on it. Okay
I think Hunter mods are always so ugly, but I actually don't- something about mail just always ends up looking so bad
This one feels- and I love the helmet again as well for the mail version, not the plate version
This one feels very like Rogue or Demon Hunter-y. It does doesn't it? Yeah, I actually- I like this one though
I'm ready to give it a 10 for a noob a noob. I think that's good. I was thinking yeah
I was thinking like eight and a half or nine. I like this one. That's a good one for sure
I think that was the last one we had. Thank you guys so much for-
Hey look, the break timer's over as well. Yeah, right on time. Let's see that.
Alright, we see any com changes at this point yet? Or are we still potting with the hotfix?
I don't believe-
Swapped in Scott. Maybe we could- Do we have Scott here? Maybe we can see if he's still in his normal or what character he's even on.
Chance.
What are you guys predicting that he's going to play?
Our general consensus is what? Probably Guardian Druid?
It's probably Guardian Druid.
You can swap.
I don't know. Again, I actually do think prop alley would be sick for this fight
I don't know if they've got it ready, but that would be my
If I could have anything I wanted and it was all equally geared
I would swap in a prop alley right now
There's a couple of specs that you could take out you can take out if you're bringing the garden tree could also always take out the moon
Can I think one of the warriors is on the table? Yeah ret paladin is on the table? Certainly
Dranos kind of threw up the idea of maybe the enhancement shaman I do think the
enhancement shaman is definitely on the one of the options because it is one of
the least utilities that you're cutting yeah it's a question of how much you need
the damage the utility it looks like Scott is now in the raid as the guardian
druid not swapped in for anybody just yet but he's been invited to the right
reason he's in group five group five test be a druid or a swap I don't
mean I guess you could fully change you could change complicated bit to
still accommodate that double druid effect but yeah I don't take out of a red
powder or water both seem better than playing. So the reason you keep the
moonkin here, moonkin not bad, you also need some amount of range to be able to
have them paired up with one another. Just rotate a healer out, you'll be okay.
But you are correct. Yeah, you have the pairings in the back, right? On the bench.
He'll be back. Yeah, Dazer has been in and out of this raid many a time
before I'm sure we will see him in on Queen Ancer at least once they call
Malarkas the closer I feel like Deezer has been the closer yeah he's been he's
uh for both Kaiveza and Ovenax they started with Adam they brought him in
they killed the boss this time around they started with Adam they brought him
in the boss mysteriously lost 13% of its health on like the next bowl I
don't know seems like he's kind of built different but they want to make sure
They don't overuse that buff
Wait, Rivet is out now as well. Yes. Hold on. Okay, hang on. Emergency Moonkin removal
What's coming? Second Warlock is back in. Okay, that makes sense because now we oh never mind Warlock's back out
Pause champ, but it doesn't make sense because you now no longer are bringing a Moonkin for their buff, right?
Right, you can swap them for another range. That's maybe slightly better and
You are still
You're still happy on the buff side of things. Maybe you're looking at that double gateway strategy as well
That was being discussed earlier, and you're like, you know what this is now low cost for us to do
Yeah, it could be and it's a handful of classes that have decent damage profiles here
You could see a third arcane mage as well. Yeah, I think it's a fine choice
But yeah, I mean we already have double enhance double frost double warrior Ellie mental as well
They I wouldn't I wouldn't hate another arcane mage
But Ellie was really good at various points on this boss. Yeah, I could see that
yeah during testing was like by far the best back in the game but they changed a
lot of the damage profile bit now they're playing like a lightning build as
opposed to the meatball build so it's a little bit different yes there are time
meatballs nice okay as meatballs I could see the bigger thing though yeah I
mean like a lot of the damage is based around isn't like chain lightning
lightning bolt based I believe it pretty good just prior passive damage on
scarabs as well which is also a bit of frosty hay niche here yeah a bit but
You can farm some extra lava burst potentially.
Okay, so the splat is in though.
Okay, cool.
All right.
Makes sense, again.
I think that you don't need the mark of the well
for the balanchard anymore.
It was fine.
It wasn't like the racing ever, but the warlock.
You can get extra use out of another gateway.
The warlock damage is fairly solid.
You can see THD on the eighth place
on the meters there.
So it seems pretty valuable.
Yeah, this fight you would think
could be really good if we're at Dastralock, right?
You've got two targets.
Sometimes they're far away from each other.
Sometimes there's a damage amp on one of them.
That screams like, okay, cast Habok on one of me
and then send 30 cast bolts into the dome, right?
Yeah, or Shenneburns, yeah.
I could have swore this was gonna be an F fight
whenever...
F was tested for the most of beta on this fight.
We saw a lot of F, I mean, there were,
I think Echo were maybe still playing F as well on this,
so definitely an option.
It feels like either of those two
would definitely work well for this style of damage.
There's a lot more demanding maintaining multiple dots
of bosses running away and such,
versus just single targeting boss that I'm cleaning a little bit once in a while by a
DESTRO. Both are solid, yeah. I think Splat was playing AF earlier actually and TG was
on DESTRO, so. Maybe this will be. Yeah, I'm curious to see what they both, and they're
choosing here, SPEC and build-wise, but uh. TG's definitely seem to have a preference
towards destruction this tier whenever the option is available. Yeah, it's quite
mobile, which this fight requires a lot of mobility. Affliction is pretty mobile
as well, but I do think that both specs are very close on this fight. Yeah. And
You often don't see Liquid and Ekko playing the same of one class, but different specs.
I think they're close enough for you to actually can on this fight.
Even on Kaivesi, you saw Aflux being played from Ekko as well.
I believe on their kill.
They played two at the start.
I believe one was in on the kill.
Does Warlock exceed your expectations coming into this race here?
Dastro has, but Warlock in general, no.
I think Dastro is a little better than what I thought it would be.
But this fight is very mobile.
A lot of movement on basically every fight, which Dastro is unfortunately the best
That which is surprising, but that's just a class design thing. Okay, so looks like the hot fixes are in for mythic silicon court
Okay, and if we take a look at wow head we can see right here if they still can court hot fixes again
No more one tanking and for disease for sure Z's
And so basically trying to explain exactly what we're seeing here with the piercing strike being changed
Yeah, so the damage has been increased by
150% up to 23 million now 23 million sounds like a lot more health than a player has but know that this is physical damage
Which is our specialty as tanks. We are very good at dealing with physical damage. The duration has been nerfed on piercing strike
To 36 seconds from 60, which means you no longer are going to ever take multiple stacks of it
I don't think but it increases the damage taken from the ability by
1000% so if you ever take a hit with the debuff already now you're taking it
230 million physical damage, which even a brewmaster month can't stagger that so
So it's going to one shot anybody who's taking it well, they already have a debuff.
And the base damage being 23 million physical means we're talking heavy defensive for a
non-tank to survive it.
It's maybe still possible to one tank this encounter with enough frosty caves, rotating
defensive or externals on the taunts, but I don't think it's really feasible anymore.
I don't think it's the way they're supposed to be done.
And apparently there was also a boss health push fixed with this as well of 5% boss
HP.
It's not in these notes, but I feel as well.
By the way, there's another change on Wildhead if you look like 20 minutes ago. They also changed
Mage you remember yesterday we were going in pre stacking our spell fire spheres
That's been hot things now to just automatically always work like that
So you don't have to ever go to Dornegal to get your spell fire spheres
They generate passively before the fight and they'll stack up to five instead of three if you have the talent
They can't have five I swear. Well, I keep getting away with this quality of life change. It definitely is
Yeah, this is really nice for the mages.
Telebosy, mage?
No, it certainly is.
Mage Hater, but this is a good QOL.
I can jump a little bit here and there, but no, it certainly is.
Most importantly as well, like, I'm glad that it just works consistently whether or not you go to Dornagall before a pull.
Now it's the same benefit, which is nice.
Whether they've either made it always three, always five, always zero on pull, at least it's always something.
And there's not a benefit for going and hitting a training dummy. I always hate it whether it is.
Good news though, I think that it's pretty...
Looks like this hotfix has made the boss impossible here now.
Yeah, here we go.
That's pretty fast.
The snowball is going.
Wiping at 97% this time.
I know.
Boss?
It's possible.
Has Blizzard gone too far this time?
So the boss's previous health pool was $13.11 billion.
OK.
And I'm trying to see if it was nerfed here.
It looked like it might have been.
The boss is sitting at about $12.5 million there,
pretty close to pull.
But if so, that would look like about a 5% nerfed
for take.
We can see when they respawn here momentarily
somebody targets the boss it would be a little bit more than 5% they pulled the
boss a little bit it was hard to see okay I'm guessing like you probably see
12.6 billion here give or take roughly okay let's see yeah maybe we could swap
around some you guys until we find somebody who's targeting the boss or
who has the boss's health visit I think she would be doing that possibly at
least have the name plates with health threshold on them yeah but he's
aiming his camera bad oh no okay we'll see it on pull we'll see it on
Oh, we'll see it on pole for sure.
There it is.
12.45.
Okay.
Might be 6.5.
Still was 13.1?
Yeah, might be like a 6.5% nerf he ever takes.
You can run the math though.
Sounds like 5% to me.
Sure, there we go.
Give her a take.
Yeah.
So in DDA 5, 6% of how of nerf coming in alongside that one tank strat being nullified.
All right.
That is very interesting.
And I think it's nice as well.
I liked the one tankings.
I like it when the bosses are designed in a way that incentivizes you to have two tanks
and one tanking requires you to do something creative and difficult.
I don't like it when it's just like, oh yeah, this tank ability doesn't kill a DPS player
so we can just one tank.
Yeah, so yeah, it is a 5% nerf after, you know, handy day to cap.
Yeah, after some consideration, yeah.
Yeah.
So why would you nerf the fight if you were...
Well, it depends.
So you don't have to do a health nerf given that nobody is this low on the
boss.
Sure.
potential you are taking away maybe four percent of the raids damage or so when
you've brought them to swap a GPS player into a tank so it sort of makes sense to
do a compensation nerf to the boss's health if your if your numbers are
already saying like oh they're already gonna be close to an rage of course
none of our top three guilds are even anywhere close to an rage just yet so
if they felt confident they could avoid doing that nerf but I think that it
makes sense to deliver the nerf as well given how tight the enrage already
looks like it's gonna be you know Kalamazik you respond to that whisper somebody's
deeming you I think on where in game actually zero do what you're referring
to we're talking about somebody's whispering in game yes somebody somebody
deemed you in game I'm not even I'm what yeah did you not hear it I'm not
even logged in yeah no didn't hear it I have selective hearing basically when
you talk or that person DMV out here at all so sorry I'm a little lost here
your dad got on you for that whenever you're younger. Yeah, basically.
Alright, well, getting ready here after two attempts post-hot fix. We'll see whether they're
able to actually get deeper into the fight again. I think it's one of those spots where
they haven't been able to really get consistently through that first intermission that we're
seeing getting into the phase two. And then the times that they are getting through
that first intermission, getting those five dispells onto the boss has become a bit tricky.
Yeah.
So those are kind of the two things that would put gamers down again already at the start here.
Anytime you see two people dead, the brain jumps to a collision being the reason.
Yeah, I wonder if change changed positioning a bit here on these points.
I, uh...
Really depth on, like so on.
This might be Cope, but I suspect it's probably has something to do with Breath of Eons
in your crossroads.
Could be.
Although I saw the Breath of Eons.
That could well be it, yeah. I saw the Rathabians go off, but maybe it's one of those things.
But he's hitting both of the bosses with it at the beginning, and so that's...
It can be a bit tricky to be able to hit them properly.
I could definitely, yeah, see that being a problem if they don't have a sort of corridor where it's like,
okay, you can't stand here, you can't stand here, we've got our evoker flying through.
Yeah.
All good though. These are the sorts of things that are definitely worth figuring out as a note update gets pushed.
So are we still comfortable with our overall predictions for this boss, saying whatever...
I don't know what you guys said, but I was like, okay, 15, I'm not supposed to be somewhere in that range.
Yeah, I feel like maybe you would like to be a bit higher.
Remember though that there only is another, what, like six hours of pulling today and then we got it.
We're coming back with a secondary set worth of gear.
Yeah.
Is this 3pm local time?
It does not make sense to stay up late on this boss unless you are close to a kill.
Is there a price tomorrow?
There is a maintenance tomorrow.
I think it's an hour maintenance.
I could be wrong.
It's three for us.
So I think it's 10am was when they scheduled the maintenance then.
Okay, yeah, so you could stay up later to because you aren't gonna wake up till then anyways, so I'm the Tammus the maintenance
Yeah, that's it eat here. Yeah, I think so
So I don't know I mean you could you could say a little bit later
But the thing is like if you can you do want to go and finish off any chores that anybody needs to do and right unless you
Are close to a kill unless you can kill it tonight killing it tonight would be big right getting an extra
Reset's worth of extra boxes from this boss
Extra spy masters reps that could potentially drop from this boss dying as well like give me some mythic spy masters
Well, I'd be pretty happy about that.
Yeah, getting stuck in a corner of your loo table would be very, very big.
Plus, you're talking about, all right, some people might not have been in for bosses.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, THC, for instance, is sitting on five bosses killed,
which would be very good to upgrade to six.
Right.
Yeah, but 50% is a lot on this boss to make up in the next six hours, give or take.
But, yeah, we'll see.
Radars are starting around 9.30 am, which I think they've been ending around 11.30.
So, yeah, about six and a half to seven hours, give or take, remaining in the night.
But, yeah, who's to say they might not break early for chores?
They'll last a little bit of ten, give or take.
just go from there. Yeah again the 10s are not actually all that good the kind of
players that they're the best on are the people who haven't been in for a lot of
bosses but those people have already had time to do it because they weren't in
for a lot of bosses so they could already be doing their 10s during that
time. Did you get your final 10 done? I did yeah well I can do four more for my
full vault 10s but I don't think it's gonna happen. Get a lock in. Yeah time to win.
You know what can you hit a trill for me? Can I do some keys? I might have to get dinner after this shift. I will call him on
on broadcast right now.
That might not be the best idea, but I do have the next shift,
but I have a whole night free, which might involve me in my bed,
it might involve me playing some WoW.
I don't know, we'll see, you know.
I was in the Vibe Player on Vibe Check.
Yeah, pop an M, go all night.
Yeah, we're known to stay up a little bit late.
On Monday night.
Yeah, yes, I was driving us last night,
I was talking to THC in Trill,
he walked over to the fridge
and cracked a white monster at 12.05 AM,
right past midnight.
Me?
Yeah, you do.
Yes, you do.
I'm telling you.
He calls me as if it's just not him.
The old midnight monster.
How many monsters do you consume a day here, Dr.
I'll see you next.
A few, they're good.
They're yummy.
The players have a ban on monsters past 2 PM.
Yeah, there's trying to avoid the caffeine.
Yes, luckily I am not a subject of Max's tyrannical
edict, so I can do what I want.
I'm a free American.
Nobody can tell me what to do.
Drinking a monster whatever I want is my birthright.
Hahaha.
Get a good chat.
And we'll say, this is a...
He's also a talkabout kind of sewer.
That's right.
He's a more of a body weight.
Love the bell.
He always partakes in my midnight wars with the bell.
Live boss.
If they want to sponsor the next race world first, I have great news.
That's right.
Look, if anybody ever hands me a phone with a food delivery app order going on it,
I will always add something to it.
It's very smart.
It's almost like a progression mindset.
It's opportunistic eating.
You never know what meal's going to be, right?
Yeah.
Stay full.
Except here, you do kind of know when your next meal's going to be.
We have three of them per day.
Yes.
That's right.
Sure.
Thanks.
Pizza night.
Ooh.
Very exciting.
Stay full.
Pizza.
Stay full.
Stay hungry.
See, that's the thing.
I have the superpower of being full and hungry at the same time.
I think you do as well.
In California.
Yeah.
I'm the choir of the talent.
That's right.
We're bulking.
I'm a bulking of it.
More.
Dude this is so funny because I just like knowing them both off-progress it's just so true.
Alright so we've got a few deaths here going into the second phase but so far it looks
like they've managed to land.
That's the spell?
It's on Scott, that's not great.
No?
Can you get it?
Get them under the boss.
Oh the cast?
Four seconds?
Okay.
Get them under the background.
No!
So it jumped the Scott again after he dispelled there. It might have been his to spell someone else right after it jumped back
Yeah, time to get out like definitely wasn't right under the middle of that thing
But it shouldn't normally go on a tank. I think anytime that does go on a tank that is not good
Mm-hmm. Yeah, they're doing they're keeping the other was very very close to the center for max cleave
But what you should do on it like you on mythic on lower difficulties
You can just run the the scarab away from the middle and be like, okay
Look only go to the middle if you're one of the dispelled targets on mythic
You can't afford that you need to keep the bosses in range to be getting hit by cleave
Yeah, every little bit of DPS is alright. That's right. That is non-negotiable for sure
Looks like a week or update has been pushed to our players
They will be reloading their UIs now. This is one of the closest races. I've seen in a hot minute. Yeah
I feel actually I feel like last last is real close
Yeah, last year was also really close, but I feel like some more often than not there's kind of
Like one of the guilds that's you know breaking away please now
It's yeah, you would you could argue that it's a three horse race this time
I think you can at this point. Yeah, I mean I think it depends on what happens with this boss dying for both echo and method more
More so seeing where method kills his boss. They've been pretty close to echo
You know about a couple hours behind them both on Brute twister and kind of as a so method was a decent amount behind on Brute twister
But then they caught up a lot on Nexus princess. That's right
Yeah, I mean they've been getting better and better every single tier and we're at a point where I mean look back at last
for the race with firehack having side-by-side simultaneous pulls. Imagine that on a three-guild spread.
That would be crazy. That would be incredible. Okay, I think that's unlikely, but that would be absolutely insane.
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, a huge variable here as well is, is this boss killable in the first reset for Echo and Method?
They are now, what, in bed for the... Yeah, they're gonna be in bed now, so they're gonna be waking up and having one more full day on this boss,
whereas us watching Liquid right now have about a half a day left on this boss.
I don't think it will die in the half day.
I don't think it will die in the full day with week one gear either,
but it'll maybe get close.
And if it does, that would be a large gear advantage
that they'd be able to pick up on the first reset.
It makes things very interesting because Liquid has to re-clear tomorrow.
There's no discussion of extension at all.
No shot you can re-clear.
You re-clear here while Method and Echo work on strats for this boss,
but you can then get to and if need be, implement in your own track.
with a higher gear level so but thankfully I don't think that will come in to play a whole lot like for
rake third time this phrase is going by for next weekend I would venture yes I think you're probably
right I think I think that at the earliest we're probably done by Friday or something like that maybe
yeah I mean okay this could die on Tuesday after the re-clear but I think it probably dies for
liquid on Wednesday with the re-clear and then we've got oh this besides yeah this boss and then
Queen answer X starts and his question of how long that's gonna take yeah it depends on the
changes to come into Brew Twister and Kai Vezer as well.
They haven't been announced yet, I assume within the next couple of hours, we'll probably get some.
If there are, well, we don't know for sure there will be.
So we kind of expect there to be hotfix, or not hotfix, but just like changes on the
reset to the Brew Twister and Nexus Princess, just because of what it looks like for the
landscape of all other Mythic guilds who are involved here.
If they don't actually change that fight, that's going to be a brutal re-clear.
Well, I don't think it'll be that tough like I think that the bosses both Kaiveza and Brute Twister get dramatically nerfed by gear
How was tendril would be clear last year?
Tendril was fast. Yeah, they kill it really fast.
Yeah, like it used to be true that you kind of sweat the re-clear, but these days they've gotten really good at
doing the re-clear, you know at the level that you need to because I
Don't know that you kind of know that it's important to do it
And so you you make sure you're still locked in for those bosses. Yeah
I think even SLG and Reef Lear was like a really fast. I was worried about it
But that was fast. That was like a 30 minute Reef Lear. Yeah, that was and I think that with an extra resets worth of gear like
You know brood drifter gear helps a lot because it kills the ads faster and also the enrage check is gone
So that's gonna be way easier with gear
Nexus princess is a little bit
Difficult because there you're losing your Vantus, right?
There's no way you're vanishing Nexus princess on week two, right? So you're down 1900 verse
But you're up more than that in gear so it is still net benefit on the weekly reset
You're just fishing for that perfect pull early on
It's gonna be a perfect pull anymore. I think you can have a player dead for a little bit
I think so and I think it's gonna be easier for players to not die to say just not pressing that yeah
It's the raw health and three is also a very relevant with one tanking it, which is yeah
And last day again
I hope to see changes that make that fight more reasonable for guilds that are reaching it now and all
also to remove the one tanking incentive.
But if that doesn't happen, which maybe it won't, right?
We don't know for sure that I hope
that Blizzard will change both of those bosses on this reset.
But every hour that we don't see patch notes announcing that,
it does become less likely.
So one DPS does about somewhere between 6% to 8%
of a boss's HP in a raid.
Right.
A tank is also doing like 2% or 3%,
so the difference is maybe four.
But as for the DPS as well, we're probably going to be gaining about 3% damage across the entire raid, maybe a little bit more, but we're losing advantage.
Yeah, losing advantage is about 2.4, so it'll still be a close check, but those 0.5% pulls will be had last week.
Those will never happen again.
Yeah, you'll be basically killing the one.
I think you'll even be able to get over the line with like a 1.5% wipe.
I think that this is a damage difference. We'll be able to beat that out as well.
Sure.
Yeah. It'd be interesting though. Hopefully it passed Reclear either way.
I would venture to get this boss to last until Wednesday night at the earliest.
That's somewhere Wednesday evening likely as long as...
Oh really? I think this boss says Wednesday.
I think it could, yeah. I think so.
I think that's Wednesday. You've got Thursday, Friday for Queen and Antwerp,
and Prague die somewhere in the world on Saturday.
That's my guess. I think it's feasible.
You buy that?
I mean, depending on tuning, obviously.
Yeah, I think Queen and Antwerp is a huge question mark.
We don't even know what that boss looks like in the later phases on Mythic.
We don't even know what it really looks like in phase one.
She looks like Aunt Fanny.
Ah, I see.
Yeah, I'll admit, clean antlerife mechanically, I hadn't looked at it a whole lot.
I only get it if it's not actually...
So, there's not a lot known from the dungeon yet.
Yeah, from the dungeon, there's not a lot known.
The difference is that there's gonna be five froths as opposed to the two froths.
That's the one thing.
And you have to space them out with one second in between.
Oh, okay, that's interesting.
Those are the only two things that are like really known about the boss, but yeah
There are mythic changes typically for end bosses that aren't placed in the dungeon here and also
Could even be a entire phase. Yeah, there could be a mythic phase. There could be a
Secret mythic boss at random games spawn and yeah, exactly
I think if neither of those are especially likely with the way that the boss is designed
It feels like a pretty complete encounter that isn't there's not really I think a lot of room before especially the way
Last phase there's space snide but Jailer felt like that as well and then there was a last phase even after p3
That's not the whole room. You could maybe add a mythic only platform or something like that. Yeah, it could be I feel like I
Feel pretty similar to us
It seems like a complete five whenever you're doing on a normal perot that you don't have to go
It was very slight yeah reminds me of Sarkarath in that way where it's like, okay
We these phases all make sense and are complete and there's enough in them that they can just make it mythic with them
That's right. I actually think it's pretty good boss. Yeah, I like we need to I think it's really cool
I think it would be a very good match.
Even on Heroic as well, you can feel how the end of Heroic mechanical overlaps are very promising.
And I think on Mythic, you're going to have to deal with those and then some.
I think it took the good parts of Razgath and kind of deleted the bad ones in terms of the hasting of the fight itself.
You know, it has like a really interesting core mechanic where Razgath had those blends that were pushing people back.
Anserac has this ring that you have to jump over and you have to have people evenly split into the ring.
And then there's, you know, various miscellaneous mechanics.
mechanics the roots massive a we've always a little bit of fun yeah you have
to jump the platform to platform and that was a fan of tindal roots I'm not a
fan of them okay I think that's a root okay pretty poor poorly designed
mechanic just generally speaking but I think that the jumping for platform to
platform yeah I love actually on answer record didn't own razz I'm surprised by
how much fun I have during that second phase of answer I would have
from the dungeon I would have been like okay this is a filler phase this
This is, you know, the bad things that actually feel a lot of fun.
Yeah, it does.
And it's not got that kind of like annoying ad feel to it.
The ads all feel, I don't know, fun to kill.
It's very hard to describe why.
Yeah, and then Phase 3 is a mix of basically like almost
Tynemox portals with ad-hectic ag cleave, some CC needed,
spread cleave, and it's working like it's almost
a soft enrage in the boss.
Is it really fun, Phase 3?
I think the fight's arguably harder than the first few boss
in the mythic that was well in her role.
Certainly.
I mean, in terms of pull counts for liquid, it probably is.
Yeah, exactly, yeah.
And I think for most bot, I suspect most guilds
will have wiped a lot more on Enshark Heroic,
probably than the first four mythic combined, even.
P1 of Ensharek is harder than pretty much
all of those bosses on the team.
Yeah, which the numbers check is a little bit less severe
potentially, but P3 check on Ensharek is like really easy.
Yeah, exactly.
Like once you get to P3, bosses at like half health
you know that you have the damage by quite a bit that is I guess a little bit
different than the first few on mythic you know we need we need to send off the
ground effect on this platform that's right we need to be slipping and
sliding maybe that's the mythic change the mouse bug will accompany that with
the constant spin oh yeah the constant spinning yeah making my own web on the
floor perfect there we go that was such a weird boss by the way yeah it was
just engaged in that boss like it I I didn't mind that boss I think Sunarth
gets a bad rap. I think Dathia was much worse than Senna. I agree with that. I agree with
that. I just don't think that either of them were like great. Okay, well what was it?
It's crazy because this boss, Queen Hatchback rather, is kind of just Senna with plus Dathia
if you think about it. You're chasing a spider upwards vertically. There are ads
that you kill and then they explode and knock you onto platforms. It's true. It's basically
just those two bosses stapled together and yet it's good. I think it's pretty
funny how he just those were the two bosses that you equated to it I mean you
think about it we that's where a lot of these mechanics are lifted from hmm yo
yo it's that DM man that's like a phone line off like it's not even no it's a
whisper it's a bean at DM yeah oh please respond let me see pull us up
here
talking about you and your tail actually so I oh yeah relax oh it was
shaved off at birth.
Oh, okay, you don't judge your titles, we love you all the same.
What do you think they're talking about?
Probably positioning for dispels or something?
Probably yeah, I mean like the next like I guess choke point in a sense has been for a
while it's been that pentatispell the five essentially at once they were massing it
for a while but they've gone to individual spells which is like a little safer then
they've gotten through that double pentatispell I think once or twice now it's likely
Really the grip in which you have to hold three webs throughout the boss overlapping
with the burrow from the beetle they're making it exceptionally hard positioning wise.
That's probably what they're looking at because they've been getting a little more consistent
even with this comps about coming in about half an hour or shifting towards Scott playing
that Guardian Druid again, bringing the other Warlock in and also employing that double
gateway strat again from what we saw earlier going back and forth between the two.
Yeah, also had a new best pull maybe an hour and a half ago at this point.
Yeah.
Everything just kind of lined up super well. They had about 18 people alive for a really long period of time.
They got both of their five dispels off.
They ended up kind of
Anaglusting I guess for lack of a better term. Yeah during the shield phase, right?
It I don't like I mentioned earlier this fight's pacing. I
Wouldn't say that it feels off to me, but it almost does feel a bit off compared to what we saw on PTR
We're expecting like a 10 draw kind of fight where it was just rapid fire quick succession back and forth back and forth
But when you make those checkpoints like the dispel you've got some downtime a bit of damage in the boss
Which comes with that is the stun on the boss, but then there's like a checkpoint
I do this heart mechanic some downtime do this some downtime you can progress a good bit through that by making it through
One of the checkpoints, but I think the biggest thing we talked about already is going to be that damage
You're hitting the seven minute mark roughly at 50% health remaining on the boss, which is
We're probably about two and a half minutes from that a rage, but we don't only know fully
It's not a 15 minute fight, put it that way.
It certainly is not a 15 minute fight.
I do agree with you, Kalamazoo, that it does feel like there are moments in this fight
where you can breathe, which is very different than Tindral.
Tindral felt like you could not ever pause and catch your breath or anything.
Three second Seed Soaks were just...
It was not even just the three...
Like that was a hard mechanic, but when it was done, then the next thing was happening,
and then the next thing was happening, and then the next two things were happening
simultaneously.
And then you get the Seed Soaks again.
Right.
This fight, you know, you have some mechanical overlaps
There's a few spots where a lot's going on
But then there's also a lot of spots would not too much is going on and it's like oh, hey
I've got a moat that I need to soak in the next 15 seconds
But besides that there's not actually anything besides setting up for the mechanics that are coming in 20 seconds
And there's time for me to just do my rotation
You know relax a little bit take a bit of a breath and that is a very different vibe than Kyveza and Tindall had
Those bosses were just like the entire time
I'm in danger dodge dodge die
Yeah, I caught as Atlas in the kitchen
I think mid Brew Twister program
I heard him saying he just wants a break from the mechanical barrage
What brew twister is and that wasn't he wasn't even in Cabeza like the last two bosses have been incredibly demanding for
Mid tier boss. He was uh, he's kind of sad to not be on nexus princess. He was like I feel like I'm just helpless
Right, I mean, you know you play DK you're good in certain spots. Oh, at least you're being stacked this tier
What are you complaining about? I'm riding the bench the whole time
I think you're right in the bench. Well, we got two warlocks gonna split playtime, right? You know, they don't
That's true. You're the big doll a start dominance. Yeah, exactly. There's a reason I'm an unburied twister muffins
It's not exactly exactly. I've been saying that
Well, thank you, Teddels for support. I appreciate it makes one person
Thank you, Teddels
Yeah
There's only some stuff that they can necessarily do here. That's that different
I think that they're just like trying to make sure that individual players are staying alive at certain points
And they're trying to maximize their movement around the fight
Right. It's not something that's gonna just happen immediately and they have to be able to kind of talk it through
It's this is one of the cool parts of mythic raiding just in general
Yeah, because you have 20 players in your raid then there's so many moving parts and there's so many different mechanics that are coming at you fast
You know you have to you have to be able to prog each individual person kind of learning the boss in that way
Yeah, a lot of players need to see their like the mechanical overlaps to get the actual
Okay, this clicks with me now
I know how to handle this at the same time being in a world for a setting seeing how these guilds approach these fights
How they break it down mechanically how they discuss things and how they attack them is really interesting. It's much
Guilds in the top five or ten here
They've all been in spots against before or close to it where they're prog in world first bosses
But there's a large difference between being the first second third guild to get here and prog of the fight and create strats and
versus emulating those strats being 4th, 5th, and 6th, right?
Yeah, I mean there are kills like that, I guess, where every few bosses, they will reach a boss and be like,
okay, we have better movement. We have some cool way of doing this that we think is better.
But you don't have to, your starting point can be okay.
We know what this looks like, we know what Liquid did, we know what Echo did.
We maybe have our own idea from testing, but we get to use the best of those three options
Rather than Liquid reaching this boss first, just have their own ideas and then their own trial and error to go off of.
It's a lot more intense to try and figure that out.
It's an experience that you kind of can't practice at those lower ranking guilds.
It's almost impossible to learn that skill without doing it.
That's one of the kind of great barriers to entry as it looks like we've had maybe a moat go unsoked here,
killing off half the raid, the rest of the raid will join soon after.
Yeah, we've seen it multiple times where one guild may have their own strategy, but they realize one guild's doing differently and they'll adapt that approach.
I feel like strategy-wise, a lot of these guilds have been doing similar strats, but I think that composition-wise, that's when the things have been the most different between all of the guilds.
Comp has varied so much this year. We're talking about Method playing a Shadow Priest in this fight. I believe they played one on Khavesi as well.
Echo was playing two Warlocks for a while. I think it's a good thing.
He was in something. He was in a split.
A heroic thing? Oh!
Possibly. I mean, there could be a handful of sick run next left, which I can split 4 for the weeks over.
Yeah, sick runs are good. Even normal sick runs are good. Champion track, sick run thing. Upgrade that thing to 619.
619? Yeah, it's so good. I like a booker got one of those.
Yeah, I mean, honestly, like, champion track gear is basically the same as hero track gear this tier
until you run out of good uses of your Gilded Crests on other pieces, which if you're getting some Mythtrak pieces,
If you're making some crafted pieces with Enchanted Guilded Crest, for at least the next few weeks,
I think people are... Like, I've seen a lot of people who have better stats champion track gear in their bags,
and just have a hero track piece on that hero 4 and a 6 equipped, and it's like, that's not better.
Just put on the champion piece at a champion 8 out of 8, and it's the same item level for now,
and it's got better stats.
Yeah, it's the same... Also, it discounts crest on the...
Yeah, exactly. You can upgrade both of them to 6.19 for the same price.
You'll just like those, exactly.
Until you're ready to spend those Gilbert crests it is better to keep that champion track piece on
There are issues if you're gated behind valor stones for whatever reason yeah
If you're low on valor stones, okay
You can only upgrade one of them
But I'd argue you should upgrade that champion track piece first because it's better better stats, but right I can I'm just I've just said
I've seen a lot of those in bags
I've seen a lot of people's bags and there's been some crimes committed I'd say in terms of you know
We've got some crit first stuff equipped by people that have a haste mastery champ track piece in their bags
Next week is going to be really interesting in terms of what people are crafting what animal yeah crafting are you crafting a
Heal the piece or yeah, I think you'll see a lot of jewelry crafted like at least a ring
Probably good. Yeah, you have the renek from from sick Ron. You have the rare ring from
Antrach, right? But I think a lot of people are gonna be crafting over top their nerubian embellishment
Well, so the thing is they already have in a lot of cases a 610 socket at BBBs
So, crafting instead of 619, you know, non-PVP, non-socketed pieces is not a huge gain over that.
I thought it was higher, I don't know.
If you do the enchanted rune crest, yeah.
I don't know, you are right.
Yeah.
Yeah, the 610PVP year is definitely shaking things up a bit.
We didn't expect to be a thing this patch until the actual season dropping, so that quest was available.
Yeah, the Gladiators Heraldries are kind of cool.
We also have seen some people not even using the Gladiators Heraldry pieces, but just buying champ track
Gear and then putting a PBB socket in it
I think upgrading it when you get the your M plus 613 and that's a lot which is very clever
These first first raiders are doing such different stuff because like for me
I think my best bet is to just continue to craft myth track pieces and get like the best long-term benefit
But they are looking for like what's the most immediate right additionally?
They can use those myth crests those gilded crests on the higher item level pieces
because they're gonna have more volume of those pieces.
It's interesting as well because the enchanted
Gilded Crest crafts are sort of medium long-term crafts,
but they're not actually this long long, right?
I'm not like, progging mythic, right?
So I'm not gonna have those.
Sure, you pop an open of vault every week
with three myth track pieces in it.
Absolutely, yep, and that's true.
It's not gonna be like a permanent thing,
but it's gonna be like a weekend week thing or something.
Exactly, right?
Whereas they are very much optimizing for
Reset number two.
Exactly.
Reset number two gear, almost for sure,
with the off chance of it being a reset number three that they're up high.
I hope so. But we'll see. I mean, I'm down for the weekend, I'm sure.
Yeah, could be good. Yeah, sure.
Seppelker two, Seppelker two, I mean, with the revenge events.
So, Rick, the pole counts looking similar to Seppelker at this point.
I mean, if you consider kind of as like and when we've got two more
bangers ahead of us here in Silicon Court and Queen Antirect. So yeah,
we'll see. That was excited. I look, I mean, hard bosses are really cool
to watch from a race role at first perspective. Absolutely.
Like, it's... there's only so much interesting stuff that you can actually watch on a rush
and not from like a race for first perspective, even if it is like a 5 to 10 pull fight.
So I think that being able to watch the active prog, that's the reason that people watch
the race for first and that's why it's cool, because you're seeing these, the best
guilds in the world doing strats at 10 out of levels down where everybody else
is even going to be able to do these fights and having to spend hundreds of pulls
progging it and in min-maxing and optimizing every single strategy that you can possibly
do and that's what makes the race world first so special yeah no percent I
certainly agree I I would I love watching these fights from this POV I
wouldn't want to raise in this at this point but I love watching how they
approach these fights and how they break things down we talked about a minute
ago we've even seen guilds like Echo and Liquid having similar strats but a
bit but a bit different but both killing it in unique ways going back to
Sarkarath Liquid and Echo's end phase strat when they went down the
final time varied a lot on Sarkarath Liquid ended up taking it down
probably with a bit of a better strat, but both guilds had their own approach to it
and it's cool seeing why the guilds think this is better.
The liquid Sark Strat was the one that pretty much everybody used moving forward.
Yeah, it was.
It definitely was. I think Echo might have shifted their strat to that on second or third.
There were some cool micro strategic differences on Sark Aruth as well
that would be very based on like, oh do you have an extra paladin for an extra bot
tank when you go down and these sorts of things so that was a cool part as well
But honestly, I feel like Kyveza has been the boss with the most fundamentally different strategies
We've seen since Sireton athria's phase 2. We have a pen or twitch chat. It says
Bandrat knows if this goes to the third reset. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. I think it would be great to go to the third reset
Hold on. Is that a moderator or something? Are they meant to be? It makes pendant. Oh, well
You spend it. What makes me we're on the same team here. You also get paid by the day
Hey, hey, hey for this, what are you talking about?
We're all looking for the third reset.
Halimawzi just keeps biting me Taco Bell
and he says show back up tomorrow if you wanna cast.
Show back up tomorrow, what we're talking about, let's go.
I'm just here for the Taco Bell.
I'm just feeding Teddles and he's showing up.
He's like, I got a lost dog, it's first.
All right, looks like we have made it
into a second phase poll here.
That first intermission did claim a couple of lives.
We do have our battle res available for Riku there,
looks like, lip gonna be down for a while,
but we'll have a res in a minute and a half here.
So we will be able to...
Okay, boomie down, splat down, that may have been a collision.
Oh, here comes the grippy in.
And the grippy in here is actually sequential on Mythic.
So it grips in all the players with the mark of rage first,
and then all the players with the mark of paranoia second.
But it's only like a second later, so you gotta start running quick,
and you gotta start running away from where the other group is getting gripped in.
Yep, and the next thing we're gonna see here is that boss teleporting in the middle of the room,
trying to interrupt that big boom cast that's gonna be doing momentarily here,
with those five dispells, they get the spell.
They're doing it in individual rotation here.
As long as they get all five off, we should need one more here in about two seconds
so the boss is gonna... Yep, there we go. There's the stun.
So in this part of the fight after that, the spell comes out, the boss is taking extra damage here.
After this, there's gonna be, I believe there's another grip coming.
Dretnos after this as well, followed by another pentatus spell.
And after that, so...
After that, it'll be intermission time. Yeah, we're getting close to four points here.
Boss health is getting good. This is already our second-best bowl ever.
I suspect that we're gonna be lusting the intermission as well with all the spikes coming out.
Especially with players dead.
Yeah, so with 17 players dead, we need to be able to see through that intermission, and I think that the last thing you're gonna be able to do...
Ooh, interesting.
Right.
This time it grips paranoia in first and rage in second.
Oh!
The alternate's actually okay.
Yeah, kinda cool.
Kinda cool.
More delts.
Hmm.
We do indeed lose play, and THC both here, and Renako.
Okay, it's alright.
So we're doing some disbells here.
We're gonna try and do a few before the boss even teleports to the middle, which is really nice to do.
You can do this on Heroic as well, although you have more than enough time on Heroic, you just do all three once it gets to the middle.
You're gonna rest here in five seconds as well.
Yeah.
Be more.
I think it's going to be a
Probably a get DHD up angle. This was good. We got through. There we go. Yeah
Yeah, we made it through all the dispels there is the res going to land is there is there going to be one
Used to you hardy going down to like you like available here. Yeah, you want to rest here before the mission begins
Yeah, we're gonna be okay. Boomi for the for the rally. It looks like the call being made
So DHD is going to stay down for this fight
It looks like I was thinking maybe you'd want a gateway replaced
But it looks like they don't really worry about that too much as we are now entering the intermission number two
So they're probably lost here, yeah?
Yeah, I think so, yeah.
Time warp right now.
Yep, burrow phase is going up here as well.
The big thing here, these burrows are much, much faster and mythic than they are heroic.
Dodging these at the same time as breaking this shield is a large task to fill.
We've seen them do it once before, break this shield, and right after that we're back into that grip from the first boss here,
which needs to also not be broken to stop the charge from the other boss itself,
which makes it for a pretty nasty overlap mechanically.
But first here, breaking this shield is of utmost importance.
dropping these orbs, rotating around the boss in a counterclockwise motion.
If shield looks to be just about broken, I'll give it a take.
Nice.
There we go.
Perfect.
There we go.
So, day three is going to start off here.
The bosses aren't going to do all that much for the next 15 seconds or so,
and then we are going to get the first grip in,
and we need to preserve exactly three sets of webs.
Any more than that, and we're taking extra unnecessary damage,
any less than that, and we won't be able to clothesline the boss here.
Yeah, and if you have those players die with the excess webs in the boss...
Yeah, which is very likely to happen because it's a very high damage spot here
This is one of the biggest moments in the raid for rewind as well rewind is
absurdly broken for living this overlap because it starts with this swarm
That's taking everybody super low and now we're getting gripped in by that web vortex
This is when we can hit rewind after this next big hit of a dot damage on everybody and just insta top them
It actually looks like the health bars of the raid are looking already
Super stable. I see two web suite. Where's he three? I see three. I see how we have three
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Perfect. Hold on, we might be able to see Prague.
Oh, watch the burrow here, though.
So this is Prague in terms of being able to see it.
And no, we had a player dive just before that one.
What about that one? I could have gone through.
Tragedy. Oh my gosh.
That snapped that web.
We were about to see Prague in terms of progressing the fight.
Yeah. Not necessarily boss Prague.
So that is once again, they've wiped at that point in the fight now, twice.
The health on the boss is a little higher here,
but they progressed very nicely up to that point.
They had a lot of players dead.
They had, yes, 16 players alive for the majority of that,
which is, I mean, you're not the 20 to be able to kill the boss,
but to see Prague, you know, that is sort of unlike Caigaza, right?
On Caigaza, as people started dying,
it became very hard to live through those intermissions.
But here, it seems like you can actually make a decent chunk of Prague
as those first players are starting to bleed out.
Here is a quick replay of the end there.
Oh, so you see the break?
Charging the wall, yeah.
Yeah, who went down here?
I think it's...
Oh, okay, here comes the...
In the top group, I believe?
So we've got two webs, two, three, okay.
And forward, it's either Zevi dies or Zevi, yeah.
Time goes down, past the forward.
Bang, the web breaks.
Oh, tragedy.
Bam!
Pragi.
Can we replay that again?
That thing just looks like it's sliding forward.
It is.
It's just gliding.
It's not running or anything.
How is it moving that fast is my question.
Hell, you know.
Well, it's got some roller skates on or something.
Maybe just pushing really hard off the other wall
and then slicing over the roof.
Oh, like a swimming pool.
Yeah, exactly. Like how you kick off the wall in a swimming pool.
That's probably what was going on there.
Wow.
Oh, man. That's quite the overlap there as well.
Well, yeah, it was good though.
Right, 52 point, I believe, yeah, to 1% there.
About the same prog point we saw last time
that we had not successfully ruined that boss there.
But we were very, very close.
Very close indeed.
Yeah, coordinating those webs out of that grip is a bit more challenging.
Like you mentioned, getting to that point will indeed
send that boss charge into the wall again,
which we'll give a bit of a damage amp for the next 10 or so seconds and then after that.
So, the next frog point there, there's going to be another Penfet dispel coming up after that, right?
Yeah, so if it's like heroic, which I am assuming, if it is, it will be dispells, and then a little bit of a breather,
and then it will be a charged dispel combo with no breather, all gas.
That is going to be extremely sketchy with mythic moat soaking being required as well,
because six of your 20 players are going to be involved with the webs.
Five of your 20 players, plus a bunch of your healers, are going to be involved with the disbells.
Not an awful lot of people left over to float and go pick up stray moats.
You're going to need some very precise movement there.
I suspect it's going to be the marks of rage, dealing with the webbing,
the marks of paranoia, dealing with the disbells, not a hundred percent sure on that though.
That's going to be intense.
Yeah, incredible. Incredibly intense.
Alright, so with that pull, I feel like we saw a lot of pretty good prog during our casting block.
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And who's Hardy for you too.
And Hardy are you right?
Yeah I think I was last.
Me and Scott are the other way around as well.
You okay?
Yeah.
Okay so everyone on blue side here this is correct?
Yeah.
Okay and right side.
Sorry what's up?
Alright, what's up?
No, I was gonna say, even if you go out the same side in the first group, it's easy to break.
You still have time to break before the AOE in the middle of the breaks.
Yeah, you need to always go to the same side.
Yeah, okay, so left and right for red.
Yip, who's your partner?
Exile, and I'm right.
Okay, Impact, who's your partner?
Duke.
What side are you guys on?
Left.
Okay, Atlas, who are you with?
Bank, he's on the right.
Cool, Nick, who are you with?
There.
Who's right or left?
I'm right.
And Splat and T-feet?
I'm left.
I'm right on my left.
Okay, fuck it.
Alright, so this is what you guys do every single time you get gripped in.
You never have to think about it. You're always doing the same thing.
If you get webbed with someone else, fix it after.
But you don't have to react to yourself. Always doing the same way.
You can stand on your partner like everything except like that.
Yeah, you can. You can except for that one, but on that one you can still fix it after.
makes it after is it exactly this is I'll just put this in the channel if you
need to look at it where are the blue orbs there on the p3 suck in the wrong
spot just because we people moved or were they supposed to be there yeah they
were like on the right it's almost okay it seems like they were on the right
a little bit yeah on the right it could be like middle of the room or
towards the middle of the room.
Okay, so this is ending, so blue,
or red would be here,
yeah, blue should be in the direct middle of the room.
Well, red was kind of off center to the right as well, right?
Maybe you move it.
Oh, no, you move, okay.
So you guys get sucked in,
you guys are all gonna go right,
which is great because you're keeping your webs.
They were right, right?
I think it was the spots on.
The boss, the boss, the boss,
like if you're targeting a new barash,
a new barash moved like half a yard.
I'm like these sets right there a little sketchy
But maybe it was just like a when I got pulled in
There in the second group is going on
Because you guys are still at all might be max melee and spread that please
Obviously don't lose the PSP. I mean obviously not everyone is
Thank you
Okay, and then yeah, because you want to have the ability to soak these but you're dealing with this guy's a we here
Okay, and then you soak this and then because blue needs to like move in here and give
Or no red reds fine blues chilling right I mean, yeah with this the web bombs look great though. That was a
That was really good, and then you would just snap whatever web bombs remain
Oh, we almost stopped it too. Nice
It should be cool what happens right after that real quick.
It takes five seconds.
OK, OK.
OK, so Marty Whistling.
OK, all about that fucking.
Let's do burrow here.
OK, same thing.
Do a little damage amp.
Again, red.
You're going to be like on the other side of the boss here
on like the top side of it.
And this guy's going to pour it away
and is going to cast a frontal on you,
So you want to have like a gateway down there, THD, to just get out of the front hole, probably
towards the edge of the room.
Like if everything here is moved up, it would just be like this, right?
And after that is SUP2.
This one, you just snap your webs.
So this would just be like a natty one.
We could do this.
We're going to be moving the boss onto the port.
So if she goes here, we're going to like drag her over the frontal.
And then it's the double damage amp.
So you do a dispel set here after the SUP on the boss.
You're going to finish the spells in the middle, and you're going to get the second swarm.
Oh, wait, no.
So this is actually just, this is not the Double Damage Amp.
Boss ports in the middle, you just do, you just finish the spells, then it does another
swarm, then the boss will port away.
It's going to do a frontal, but there's no, then there's the suck three.
You keep the web, same thing as before, red and blue, same orientation, and then
we do the second dispels here.
You're going to get about halfway done with them, and then the boss is going
to go far.
going to port like this boss ports here. Then this guy's going to do her to this
boss is here. You guys are hitting it. You probably just hit it here. You're
ready for the middle. You stop the boss, the damage amp in the middle. You want
the boss to actually stop like a right in the middle of the room because like
like two seconds into his damage amp, she's going to port into the middle.
You're going to be like hitting the boss here. She's going to be, I forget
exactly where she is. She's like, she ports for this or something like
You're hitting her, he ports away.
Oh yeah, that's what it is.
So you're hitting her as both of these groups,
but then red, you're gonna try to like back up
a little bit with some of the web bombs
if we have like range fares.
And then this guy does the charge, you stop him,
this boss ports and then instantly ports
in the middle for dispels.
And then during the damage amp,
you just start maximally hit range
and you send the dispels in on the girl
and that's the double damage amp.
But that's like two damage amps from where we are,
I imagine.
I don't wanna, that was probably too much information.
I shouldn't have kept going.
Basically, we're just going to do dispels in BFK for a bit.
I think after what just happened.
Yep.
It's going to be hype.
Yep.
That's all I know.
I think as we get better at P2, I
think working in some ad control on top of what
we're doing in P2 would be good.
I'm not super worried about it right now,
because P1's ad control was horrible.
And then we got better at P1, and then P1's ad control
was really easy.
So I think once we're more familiar with P2,
the ad control will come with it.
The reminders for the people who are controlling them
could be good.
Are you popping?
I wish you were running in a second.
Yeah, it comes up to a careful hand.
And then just hold it and just get
the uses in the last phase.
If you hold it that long, you don't get the uses.
For the back.
Yep.
I can try.
OK.
Rotating now.
Good call.
Try to keep your old position consistent.
Don't vary it up.
Yeah, like just talking.
Orbs are in like six seconds.
Orbs are going up in five.
There's two in the back.
See the melee getting...
That I don't get.
That something is going wrong with that side.
Like something has changed.
Well, no, the wood bomb was on way further back.
Or with one of the three that are supposed to be in there.
Yeah, maybe.
That was just farther back, so it was probably just different ball position.
Yeah, but...
Yeah.
Even if that happens though, like...
For progression's sake, like just...
If you don't get two orbs as a melee, you just have to non-stop be getting orbs.
you can't get one. Only one person in the entire group can get one for that to work on that set.
Right, you just have to...
I think the problem is like I'm on the far left of our positioning and I'm generally taking the far right one select there.
I tried to run to like the back where I normally go, which is the far right.
And there weren't enough there for me to get because the like my bones were far behind and then I couldn't make it back.
It doesn't make sense for the far left person, so the far right towards the far right guy needs to go to the far right side of him
Correct
He is the far isn't moving the far again, or are you far right?
He's far left, he's like far far left
That does make sense, but I think the melee are just doing it the other way around like people on the front right are just soaking as soon as they can
And just like packmaning that shit and the people on the bottom left take whatever it is
That sounds cursed for range
But like for melee, it's not like any less movement to do that, I guess, but are they just sounds terrible?
Yeah, we have extra time and also we have more orders to so sometimes the way is just closed
So you have to take the first two and then stop but ideally as far right guy you want to go right if you can but sometimes
They're your spawn on top of each other
So I think everyone should like always try to tend to push right
then just stop when you get to but if you're a far right guy try to avoid the
first if you can. Also if you get two of the early ones you fill soak when
extra one at the end. Yeah exactly. So it's better to soak not soak one and then
delay your second soak so soak too fast and it will drop when you can. Well are you soaking
too fast and then getting one later or are the people on the far right going to
go all the way to the far right? Oh it's like just the independent thing. Yeah I'm fine.
Yeah, we have like 15 seconds for everyone to go right there, so there's like we should be able to get that
I think it's better as Jack said that the far right maybe soaks to when you're ready to soak two more in the end if you need
Yeah, let's go also most of that was just caused by so many opposition
But the polls before that the mail air saying that you guys are seeing different orbs and you've ever got
so I think like someone on that side in the last like 10 or five polls has like
Change their positioning a little bit and that's maybe orbs look different currently some what they're sound like they're saying
get good at debuff, very good.
We do have new people in for that, right?
Scott?
No, we actually zero new people on that set because they're all melee red and no one there has been changed.
Okay, rotating in three, two, one, no.
Hit those ads in.
Make sure they're under the boss.
There you go.
Bernardio is shitting on those scarabs.
I mean, I can't really do laws.
my breath. Don't worry, they're so bad. I don't know what changed. Yeah, I'm getting off the
bus with my breath rolling. It's just, oh, that sounds bad. Yeah.
Front on blue here. One goddamn. It'd be a razzle. Get thing where no one actually
realizes that they themselves have moved something that the entire group has
adjusted because you have to adjust around each other with venomous rain
just like you did with razzle gas sparks. So maybe the entire group has
shifted right and they haven't even realized it okay uh move here rotating in three two one now get
the scarabs under good and slow and ring them if possible we made a web when you back up on the
range yeah one it's right here we got it good job reek it uh resin as well reward him for what he's
He's gone.
Good job, Lucas.
Good favorite.
Probably a recall.
I just want a mobile.
Get your response.
That's my lunge.
Intermission is starting sometime soon.
Not quite sure.
Now, does anyone have a correct timer for that?
When the shield's going up?
Yeah, when the shield's late to power.
This part?
Yeah, mini-spread now.
all the red orbs are good at least good probably last set of orbs spawning
now it'd be careful of your stacks here we have 10 seconds to so please do not
greed you have five seconds to soak orbs here guys four three one more
red orb more blue orb more blue right there right there right there right there
good job I got it I'm sure it's good frontal on blue here a web war text be
cross me each other beyond the marks be on the mark max melee get with your
partner with your partner remember your sides it doesn't change based on the
week we're up okay ready to go back in after we'll be missing it's all here okay
so corpse here guys especially ones under the boss first watch both good
shack and three two one now second to school already three one now fired up
and three you want now impact in three you want now
That's all you wanted every time that's clean this walk. Yeah, W shit
All right, everyone get like loosely stacked on each for here
And then and then you're gonna just move left with your frontal each group and then we're going to get movement and go towards the guy
He's teleporting right now. Look at the boss's arrow. Look at the arrow. Go.
I'll just have the royal sculptor.
Get close.
Good. Let them go.
Go through.
I should do this, man.
Good.
Here to just go forward, guys.
Snap your webs.
Yeah, I'm going forward now.
Boomi, go under the boss.
In three, two, one, now.
Renako before ports in three, two, one, now.
Atlas, you're going to go middle first.
Atlas is middle in three, two, one, now.
Bang is in 3-U-1 now, bang. And then THD get under and dispel whenever. Good. Make sure the scarabs are under.
I'm res-neck.
Yep, res-neck, yep. Oh, he's up. Shit.
I think he had a- how the fu- oh yeah, soul soul soul. Yeah, gotcha.
Yeah, okay, make sure you're on opposite sides, blue on blue, red on red. Hit an uber, Ashley, you're ready for the enemy-ishi.
You take the bullsuck, yeah.
Yeah, so you have to not use the position.
Oh, sure.
Yeah, we're just bringing in on top of the boss, and the next intermission, it always
spawns where it goes down.
Good.
On discord has speed, and savvy consent.
You're sending the loss right now.
Yeah, fuck it.
Watch the orbs, guys.
Only get one, one soak.
They're on the opposite side.
Stay, stay, stay.
Stay red, stay red.
Good, and we're spawning orbs now.
Rotate.
that's nice I feel like this phase of the vibe is easy as well yeah so this is
your way to the person all right let's go up Nick is break up break up break up
break up me heal me oh the range of size fine we're moving moving them on
this is a reds we're going to the wall right the reds are wild blues are
towards middle so blues yeah reds go to the wall
I'm dead.
Oh, yeah.
Let me get to the wall.
Give me a little bit of space.
You're fine.
You're fine.
Blue towards the middle.
Blue towards the middle.
Yeah.
I'll come to you, Sank.
Partners.
Got you wrong.
Yeah.
Partners, get with your partner here.
You guys like to trade with your partners.
Good reds first.
You guys all go right.
I'll go right.
I'm going to die here.
Good.
Go forward.
Good.
And then everyone go back and soak your orbs.
Three, two, one, go.
so orbs and red get ready for the web-bomb pairs
does all of them get filmed?
what is that?
oh we got it
keep going W ship
oh this is the gateway
that's the gateway
that's the gateway
that dog is sketchy
and then
we're getting dispelled debuffs after this
how many of you are alive?
oh we're getting murdered
Nice. Good shit. Let's go, Shaq.
I'm getting hit in the back again. Double go. Let's go.
I think you watched last time.
Can I have a good look? Can I hold on?
Let's go.
Just get into the boss. We can die and get into the spells.
Literally just fucking die, man.
Nernako getting illied into the boss.
Okay.
Nice here.
This here just looks sketchy because of the spikes.
like, uh, and so I died and then the boss like moved and put the worst spikes ever fucking
possible known to man.
Wait, where is that?
Let's see.
So if you look at where the red people, the webs have to go, it's absolutely insane.
It should be really easy.
Oh, oh, you mean because of the, the boss like ran after, yeah, that was kind of like
a wait for it to go and then I was going to say, I wonder where we should actually
put those brakes, but I'm pretty sure for damage, it's just you put it right on
the boss and figure it out under Spine Spines man. It's just like it wasn't under. It was
like I'm pretty sure this is one of the worst spots you could put it where it's a
web vortex goes on red first so you guys are all going right mistakes right so
you guys all go this way. I'm gonna see if that happens. Everyone starts running
there looks like Alice be straight fine. By the way is your week or that you
guys are getting accurate with what you guys told me you wanted to do every
time? Yeah. Yeah. Please. So I guess you know, there is no in there.
Mine told me you left. Okay, maybe someone might have had
a different partner. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. But I don't think you
care if you have a different partner, right? So so if I'm
correct, the like assignment left and right thing can be
removed because everyone is always going to the same, you
know where you're going. So there's no reason. Yeah, you
You should not be following the tech speaker. We should have it load. Never
Okay, and then after like yeah, I couldn't see where it was here, but like this group. It was fine
Oh, was it red group? It was oh, yeah, watch this. It gets crazy. It gets fucking crazy
It's to read buried on himself and died
At like the last fucking millisecond for his web bomb to hit look at him
He just fucking died right there. What a beast American hero right there. Yeah
It's from the link on and I got it. Yeah. Yeah, this frontals insane
And so how you have to do this frontal I think so this is aiming at the red team, correct?
Yeah, yeah, so blue should be on the wall here. That's that's step number one and the red team should like
You either need you either need to beat the front hole here and then gate there
Fucking Bernardio
Are you guys getting an Airhorn v-core?
Yeah, Airhorn for the feast.
We need it to be looping every 0.1 second.
Wasn't it going all the way?
Everything's goaded.
That's a good v-core.
Love that.
And you eat it, son.
Hello, everybody.
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i saw alien that's all right there apart in front of me there's just alien wear all around us
we're in the alien wear training facility of course anyways they did just have a really good
pull got over a couple of hurdles that we've been working on all morning yeah uh 44 like 0.7 i
I think roughly their choke point for the last couple hours in my left shift has been that
Third basically a root on the boss coming out of the double the pentatus spell like the final phase basically getting that root in
The boss which the whole rig gets pulled into you and you can't break a handful of those roots
You see the week where they have assigned like left keep means you're going left for that route
You're not breaking your route
You're gonna route the boss that way it takes three pairs or yeah three pairs essentially the same as phase one
But they got through it and they shaved off. I think six and a half percent in the boss again
coming together.
Yeah, the...
Oh man.
The sequence of mechanics
occurring in that last phase,
we've only seen like the first 30 seconds
of the phase and it looks like it's
a while to learn that phase
because not only is there an overlap
of the earthquakes
in addition to having to keep
three of your webs together
to break the charge,
but I'm imagining there's also going to be frontals
to be frontals going out, lots of the time while you're also trying to do
dispels on top of the boss in the middle of the room, not only that but there are
going to be a ton of moat spawns throughout the entire phase that they're
going to have to be constantly switching for. So I think this last phase, while it
might look not as hard as we initially expected, I think it's still going to
be absolutely insane and that's not even to mention we don't know where
damage check has to be yet. What is the hard and rage on this fight? We don't know.
Yeah, we don't know. So, I mean, look, that last fight was 7 minutes, 1 in 2 seconds, 43%
pull. What if the hard and rage was 10 minutes? I mean, yeah, there's a lot of DPS,
it still needs to be optimized, I would assume. They're lusting the burrow shield,
which is basically this boss burrows earlier on in this replay here, which,
I mean, need to break that shield but at the same time, lust thing during a point where you can get like maybe a little more DPS optimization is likely going to be changed at some point
in this boss' progress. We're not sure of the heart and rage, but you are correct. We've wiped it 44% about 7.5 minutes into the fight and
it's going to be a little tough finding that percent, but keep in mind we also have Reset Tomorrow,
another craft coming in, a Great Vault, a Reclear and all that, which will help a little bit, but looking back at Brew Twister as well as
Okay, Vezza, there was a lot of DPS optimizations made by analysts going in, pulling some of these one thing to the next,
and we'll see where it goes. We've seen this replay right here. This is that triple route we're talking about.
The...
Right there? Yeah, yeah. Correct? Am I wrong here? No, this is it, yeah.
So this is the overlap of the burrow, right? This is the triple route we have right here, which does indeed send the boss.
And you can see the burrow is coming out. The route's right there, and you have to dodge like the second after that actual charge is caught right there.
Yep, the barrier comes down unfortunately on top of the burrow, but the boss is rooted here taking additional damage.
Look at this frontal coming in, right there, on top of the boss.
They did say that's where they went that next gate to be, but as far as like, DPS and the boss there from melee, that's going to be a headache to dodge in that damage amp.
Yeah, and the thing is, everything is baited, so you should be able to theoretically come up with exact positions for everyone to be in for this,
so that you can bait that frontal away from the other group, but it's going to be difficult for them to do.
And you can see they're actually spending a lot of time in between pulls since having that new best pull,
talking about probably exactly what they want to do right after that next, after the mechanical crystals,
because we saw they kept going for a little while afterwards.
Even though most of the raid was dead, they got more timers in that phase,
and it's going to help them get even further into the fight.
Yeah, the next mechanical overlap is going to be that quad, or that pentadispell again,
which is pretty fast after the last set of dispels, but we know once that is done, it'll stun the boss in the middle again,
and the next overlap is going to be webbing the boss, so those six links at the same time as five dispels.
It's going to overlap, and what we assume is probably the final mechanical overlap to the boss just dies, or you die,
which at this point, you're going to die. We need a lot more damage than this boss, but we're getting there.
I'll say as far as progression is concerned. I didn't think we'd see this far into the fight this early in the progression
Yeah, I'm not gonna. Yeah, I agree with you on that front
I don't think we were gonna see this far on the first like major full day of progression
but I guess they got a lot of information yesterday from what they were doing with the polls they were doing it wouldn't really be able to get the
information that they were getting from the polls on the PTR because
You know spending time in the raid with only 10 people figuring out mechanics
This is not necessarily going to be as valuable as doing a 20-player pull, so that's probably
what they did for most of their PTR testing, but as we know they spent several hours in
there with just one group of people, just 10 people on one color, so they would never
actually die to the moat mechanic, which got them a lot of information about the fight.
So that's very useful and it's probably a large portion of the reason why they're
doing so well today.
Yeah, mechanically.
Damage-wise though, we'll see where that goes.
So we'll see.
That's not something we need to worry about right now, right?
If you think about it, the damage should go up from here, right?
At this point in the fight they've only had two of the six damage amps they're going to
have on the bosses on this encounter, and they've also had to chew through two pretty
large shields as well.
So they actually haven't been able to do as much damage to the boss's HP bar as
you'd like at this point, so 10 minutes wouldn't be awful, it wouldn't be great
either though.
Yep, what we also know about. A couple hours ago we got a 5% health nerf for the boss accompanying a change to the tank mechanic making a hit for essentially 150% more damage making it so you can't solo tank this boss.
So that health nerf may be there to compensate for bringing another tank in, but it might just be there because the boss has a lot of health as well.
With my blue, my name is... Today is a fantastic day, Jeff.
Oh, it's... there's nothing better than waking up and then seeing Liquid got another world-first kill.
Yeah, I don't know about you, but I was asleep. I went to I went to bed with it
still at like 10% and it was hard to go to sleep. A little bit on to that one,
but nothing beats waking up to that and waking up to some good fresh scents
throughout the office. So true. I walked into the office this morning and
there was this lovely scent in the air of my favorite breakfast food in the
air or in the in the world and that is cinnamon rolls. Yes, nothing beats it.
It just could smell it wafting across the entire studio.
I was like, wait, are we getting cinnamon rolls?
Handmade, no less, to that one.
To put together kind of the most insane ensemble
that's in the same production
that we've had yet.
I, yes, we luckily got a little bit of a sneak peek.
Heidi was gracious enough to give us one this morning.
Oh, look at that.
The color, there we go, we gotta adjust the positioning
and everything like that.
I think the blue light in the background
is giving the eggs the wrong color for some reason.
But trust us, they're yellow.
I'm trying to see what might be causing that.
I don't know.
Maybe it's just from my POV.
Maybe, could be.
But we're getting some very, very sticky.
It's in a roll.
Is the bottom of the plate sticky?
Not for me, uh-uh.
For you?
When I was eating mine,
just, I didn't really wash my hands twice.
Right.
Yeah.
Definitely.
and get set on over here.
Well, I mean, it's very important
that everybody gets their breakfast nutrition in.
I know that, I was saying to Stuart this morning
that Heidi's show has kind of become
like the pre-morning, morning show,
because she gets here earlier than anyone
and starts cooking.
She had like 700 viewers in there.
Cooking away, talking to everybody.
Here we go.
Here's a look at the breakfast.
There it is.
Sorry, I was like, look how nice.
Justing it and checking to make sure
the presentation would be proper for you guys.
We've tipped it off of the,
well, I don't want to like tip it too much.
There we go. Look at that.
Apparently somebody can grab one with their hands. Somebody asked me if I was the person that grabbed it with my hands. I don't know what that means.
There's some lore there that I'm not super sure about.
The rest of the day, of course, we have our burger bar coming back once again, and for tonight for dinner, we got that baked ziti coming our way.
What is that?
It's like the little tubes of pasta.
Oh, those are my favorite.
But it's all like, merged in.
It's like kind of melted over.
It's almost like a lasagna.
Yeah.
I think it's chicken as well.
Oh, my goodness.
And cheese and pasta.
Oh, yeah.
I'm excited about that.
I'm excited.
Chef Heidi always does a great job, of course,
with Mila at her side.
Somebody else that does a great job,
and that was absolutely cruisin' yesterday,
was our Honda MVP of the day, Jack.
Yes.
A big part of making sure that this kill was even possible
to begin with was THD.
Now you have to keep in mind, on the Queen,
so-called court encounter,
you have a lot of the spells that need to get done.
And each of the spells needs to be triggered
in order to stun the boss.
In order to disorient the boss,
make sure the fight is going to continue.
And THD really clutched it up onto this one.
He was watching the other player for the spells
four and five, watching locations
as to where they were going to go
and getting ready to be in position for the dispels
and to activate his own dispel on this one.
Insanely important that you have to be
the closest person to the boss,
or the boss has to be the closest to you
when you activate the dispel.
If not, the dispel jumps to another player
and with like a fraction of a second remaining
to get the dispel off,
he both was watching the other player,
got into the right position for dispels
for both of them and triggered his dispel
to make sure it was going to go off.
Triggering the double detonation
and making sure the boss is going to get stunned.
Otherwise, that would have been a wipe.
Yeah, lots, lots happening there.
But THD, of course, is the man to be able to handle it.
First one in and last one out every day also.
That's right.
He was here very late last night.
He gets up as early as we do and stays later.
Sure does, yeah.
I don't know how he quite functions like that.
He's not in good morning, though.
He's getting some sleepy time.
How he's here?
He, really?
Yep.
I mean, I was talking to him just before we got out.
Oh, never mind.
I lied.
He's just not out of his desk.
I think you were checking out the cinnamon rolls.
Yeah, I got distracted.
Understandably so.
I did.
My bad.
Sorry.
Well, I mean, I'm literally still
thinking about the cinnamon rolls, to be honest.
Kind of want another one.
Should I go get another one?
After this, OK.
Because first, we got to talk about how liquid not only
got world print, world first, Princess Caveza,
we also got world first, Silk and Court.
Yes, we did.
And we're going into a reset.
Oh, no.
There's so much happening today.
We will certainly catch everybody up.
There's a lot to discuss.
Let's first though talk about Dungeon Dojo, of course,
one of our partners.
They've got a lot of coverage over there
of all the other guilds that are not method, echo,
and liquid that don't have their own broadcasts,
and they were kind enough to provide us
with some of the other guilds.
They're all currently progming on OpenX here
is, I believe, Pop-Tart Gorn Dog.
Girat noses Guild.
Shout out Pop-Tart Gorn Dog.
Shout out Ticondrius also.
They're my, that is my server,
and I refuse to leave.
So they're kind of my, I don't know.
Me too.
I always root for them.
Yeah, wait, you're going to take hundreds?
Yeah.
I don't know that.
I'm going to incarnate.
I want to take hundreds.
Okay, all right, sorry.
That's great.
They can be our second favorite guild.
Yeah.
Thanks.
Yeah.
You get second in progression
and second favorite in eyes, eyes that you need to.
Here we have Corey's POV, Tarasant.
Love to be able to see it.
And they're getting into that third phase
deeper in on the encounter.
It's a progress last night, but not quite as far.
Not nearly as far as what we're seeing
out of Pop-Tart Corn Dog.
We'd love to be able to see them.
making big strides in the encounter.
It's brutal.
Do you think they'll ever change their name again?
Ah, I think it's become iconic at this point.
I think so, too.
I think it's part of the brand.
Well, let's take a look at our other guild here.
We've got Vesper.
This is their best pull at 42% Ovenax.
Yeah, like 70 something pulls in.
Keep in mind with the weekly reset,
there's gonna be a few more nerfs
incoming to Brew Twister Ovenax.
The health of the Colossal Spiders,
which is like the tank buster mob,
is getting nerfed by 27%.
Give or take?
Very substantial on to that one.
And I want to say it was the parasite's health
getting nerfed, citation needed on that.
They also are reducing a bit of the damage,
which is kind of surprising on the fight.
Since it was already being three healed,
it was already low enough that it could be three healed.
And so I feel like that just further reinforces it.
Not a huge fan of that change,
but I like that they're reducing a lot of the health
of some of the major spiders themselves.
And of course here is Synergy.
There, this is a 1% wipe, which is, you know,
we've all seen it.
Heartbreaking.
A little bit heartbreaking.
I don't know what time of the night this was either,
but also we've got, who, Corey?
We've got Corey and Miss Eddine.
Who's the other person who's casting right now?
Do you recognize them?
Not sure.
I mean, I think they had a little castor bar
or something like that.
So let me go tell them.
We have castors, they're socials in there.
But we love the dungeon dojo crew.
Also, there isn't money for charity. Do you know what charity is?
We can't afford to make a wish.
Make a wish?
Yeah.
You can read that from here?
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Are you ready?
Yeah, I cannot read that from here.
We gotta go to the eye doctor.
Oh, I didn't realize my vision was that bad.
Yeah.
Oh no.
Okay, I'm having a moment live on broadcast here.
I just discovered my vision is way more bad, way worse than I thought it was.
Senior moment.
Yeah, a little bit. Old.
No, I've been there. I literally just went to the eye doctor before this event.
Oh, did you get, oh, because you've contacts on.
Yeah, I probably don't, I'm just stubborn.
It's fun.
It is fun.
You're the poke your eye every morning.
Yeah, which I do anyways, because I always have cat hair,
like makeup or something in there.
So I may as well throw away contact.
I was going to say, add it to the list of other things
to get ready for in the morning.
Yeah, yeah.
Sometimes if you don't quite get everything off,
like all the mascara and stuff, the night before,
you can end up with black eye boogies in the morning.
Oh, I totally know what you mean.
Yeah, yeah, see, it's not fun.
Kind of nasty.
well anyways we talk about some of the other girls that the bridge to rule
first and i'm just gonna i'm sure the chat is is doing that all you know right
now that the people that were make up the girls they got me
uh... but echo and a method of course they're still prodding on a mythic
princess kind of as a or sorry no
the silken courts and we've been on that fight for so long yeah i'm a
great so
i know i was gonna say that at the beginning uh... earlier when i was in
the only and i thought they they killed it's a princess and i were killed
Yeah, it's kind of a lot to keep track of up in our brains.
It's a weird thing with Silicon Court though, because the fight from a mechanics point of view is absolutely more challenging
than what we saw in Nexus Princess, but the tuning has been a lot more forgiving.
There was already more health nerfs coming into play early on in progression,
and then it really boiled down to how are you best going to map out everybody's movement on the encounter
so that you know where you can pick up the moats every time.
You know where the other team is dropping off their moats.
When red team gets pulled in, for example,
you know which directions that they're
going to be running into.
When blue team gets pulled in, and on, and on, and on.
And so there's only a few different combinations
of mechanics.
And there's only a few different permutations,
because it affects all of one team or all of another.
And so each team really takes their time
learning what they're going to be doing, mapping those
kind of things out.
And then there's very few other sort of variables that can kind of get in your way.
And as we saw on the kill itself, when certain variables happen like players need to get dispelled,