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Talking non-stop, breaking down news with each headline drop, reading some tweets, playing some games,
turn off the stream, prep the next day, it's a wild game. In this twitch world view,
the streamers like me and shatters like you wish these hot takes were fake, but they're all too
true yes they are oh they are streaming in the new bitch man that a bitch made
lord knows they all just want to spam bullshit and chat want me to click their
links so I help on their views but they don't have no subs and they don't have a
view and I give you a click but I'm covered I wish debate bros would stick
to ideals, but they draw on the farm for deals on other platforms out there, oh lord we got
streamers on kick, showing their dick, and they're trying to make gambling look fair.
Now if you're spamming away in a pair of social haze, my mom's will step in, put you in
a timeout face, your minds are in here right now, so stop breaking their brains,
a week off of chat. There's your five minutes of fame, wild game in this Twitch world view
for streamers like me and shatters like you wish these hot takes were fake, but they're
all too true. Yes, they are. Oh, we are streaming all day at the top of the ladies and gentlemen,
boys, girls and MBS. I'm a son, Piper and this thoughts and I have a broadcast cover
with you live from not so sunny, gloomy, California, Los Angeles folks were live and alive. That
was Kemp Korduzian, bitch men that are bitch made AI parody for her son. What are we having
at that guy? Folks, I'm son, I'm Sonny Parker. This is also the forecast. Go live. And I
hope all the boys, girls and MBS are having a fantastic one because today's a beautiful
day. Today is a wonderful day. Today is Wednesday, hump day. Ladies and gentlemen,
was in the Alaska State Fair singing. Ladies and gentlemen, it is Wednesday, hump day,
September 25, 2024. Watch Donald Trump, watch Donald Trump, watch Donald Trump, permission
to swag out. You got my permission. Hope everyone's having a great one. Some chatters
are probably prepping for Hurricanes as the chatter also pointed out in the chat. Cheers
for everybody cheers for the new day permission to swag out granted soldier swag the freak out
anyway uh you probably already saw already but you see the big ghost of uh yotei review yes i did
it's a woman it's dei and now i'm mad okay so permission to goon you got a soldier permission
granted so folks folks last night I ended the broadcast and I did something very important
okay this is the part of the broadcast where I tell you about my personal news about what's
going on in the world of a son house and I'm a piker for once you know what I mean instead
of talking about all the things that are awful in the world this is when I tell you all
the things that are awful in my life in my immediate life just kidding things are
not so awful except for the fact that I tried the Oreo Coca Cola zero. All right. I tried
the Oreo Coke zero. Hey, there's a jacket to someone died. No. I don't know why people
always assume that like I wear a jacket when people are dying. You know, sometimes I just
like to wear a jacket. By the way, big Mdosh, thank you for the five community gift, the
Uh and the tank of it give the subs earlier. Thank you for the 15 gifted subs total. Anyway, um personal news wise
Personal news wise. Uh, I tried the fucking I tried the the Oreo Coca-Cola last night
I forgot it is not coke
I was playing it. I'm mute like many of you guys who watch my tiktoks
Uh, thank you 13 LT Rico
So, for the 10, here are my gift and subs.
I don't know what's going on.
Why is everybody peppering me with some gift and subs?
All right, everyone's favorite soda boy.
I finally did it.
I went and got Coke Zero Oreo Creations.
This is America's final form.
Okay, this is peak America.
It literally doesn't get any better than this.
Ooh, nice little sound to that.
As you guys know, I'm the esteemed soda boy.
This is a Coca-Cola zero sugar with Oreo flavor on it.
I'm gonna try it now first sip.
Actually, I smelled it first.
Kinda smells like Coke Zero but vanilla flavor maybe.
Tastes like there's a little bit of an Oreo after taste.
It's not as bad as I thought it was going to be.
Hello, Kaya.
What's up?
She doesn't like it.
But it's not great either.
I know this is fun time. So please don't yell. But when you have time, can you, uh, you can,
I know the world is crazy runner. Can you add some context to the clip about grape on Twitter?
I saw, uh, I just saw, I don't know what it was about, but it was kind of upsetting. Yes.
Uh, there is a college specifically created for anti woke conservatives.
And I was making a hypothetical, often times, as I do about conservative positions, saying, from a utilitarian perspective, if anti-woke campuses are to exist, that could be a good thing from a utilitarian perspective because people are specifically going to those colleges because they're on woke.
Okay, great way to start off the day though.
I can't believe you saw a 28 second clip on Twitter
and thought, hey, it seems like Hasan is pro rich women
getting raped, even though the clip itself, literally,
very clearly does not spell that at all.
And you just got primed by the actual Twitter post
associated with the clip.
Okay, 26 month subscriber, I'm sorry guys, you are very, very, very easy to dupe.
You are.
You're very easy to dupe.
You get primed by people who literally make pedophilia references on a regular basis and
think that shit is edgy or sometimes even defend those kinds of actions.
it takes for you is literally seeing a clip from a community like that that is 28 seconds
long for you to go, I'm actually going to rewrite everything I know about this person.
You're very easy to do. You are. Okay. He was asking a question. It's on. I mean, it's
true. It is. It's a, it's a silly question. It's a silly question. If you, if you see
a clip out there that says like, I hate all black people. They should be killed or something.
Okay. And you go, wait, I saw a clip of you saying I hate all black people. They should be killed.
And I really wanted you to address that. Would you if you see a clip like that, do you go
in your mind? Do you go, this probably is clipped out of context, as it will now be,
because I just said those words. Do you go, this must be clipped out of context because once again,
it does not correspond to anything that this person believes. I've been in here for a very long
time. I know what this person's opinions are. Okay. It's a bad faith clip to begin with. The
amount of cuts in that clip should have immediately told someone that it was out of
of contacts and purely fabricated I know but it doesn't matter please moving back to this
all right as everyone's favorite soda boy I finally did it I went and got coke zero
Oreo creations this is America's final form okay this is peak America it literally doesn't get
any better than this nice little sound to that as you guys know I'm the esteemed soda boy this is a
Coca-Cola zero sugar with Oreo flavor on it. I'm gonna try it now first sip
Actually, I smelled it first
kind of smells like
Coke zero, but vanilla flavored maybe
tastes like
There's a little bit of an Oreo aftertaste
How does this ring with dr. Pepper cherry?
Um, I don't fuck with cherry flavored shit. So I have more of it and it was cold
Okay
Yeah, for the record, I don't fault you for getting duped by a clipchimp. Okay?
But I'm, I do beg of you to exercise a little bit more critical thinking.
That's it. Like, please, why are you so hated, bro? Why do you think it's because I am very loud
and very bold and very stubborn. The very same reasons why I am loved is the very same reasons
why I'm hated because for as many people as there are out there who agree with me,
there are a shit ton more people who disagree with me and those people can't actually argue on
the boundaries of the the arguments that I'm presenting so they have to actually strike
at the source instead. This is a way to try and separate people from someone who's communicating
these positions without actually assuming any of the positions at all, without ever having to
defend a position at all. Okay, that's it. And I do know that no matter what I do, it's not
going to stop. It's just something that I have to live with for the rest of my life.
but who gives a shit all right moving on stop I don't want to get derailed
legot is being slandered in ways we've never seen before see this is a great
example okay there it is 130,000 likes on this fucking thing I saw it earlier
okay this app has never been more washed okay if true this is unbelievably sick
Kanye West reveals how LeBron James slept with Diddy for a hundred million
million dollars and sold his soul. 144,000 likes on this.
When an app has momentum and movement and motion on this level of Facebook boomer posting,
it's over. It's time to migrate. Okay. It's time to move on. It's cooked. The application
on his last days. Okay. It is straight up Facebook at this point. It's just Facebook too.
All the fucking Nazi boomers migrated over here. It's time to return to Tumblr bestie.
I've never been on Tumblr, but I probably will never be on Tumblr. Jesus Christ, why
Hawthorne? It finds it so hard to believe LeBron attended Diddy parties. Wait, what?
No dude, I'm joking when I say he's never been to a Diddy party. Of course he has,
But there's a fucking obvious difference between like LeBron James, much like many other fucking
famous people going to a Diddy party versus Kanye West saying that LeBron James slept
with Diddy for a hundred million dollars and sold his soul.
Do you feel like these two things are on the same fucking spectrum of reality?
Or do you feel like one thing is obviously real?
And the other thing is just so insane that if you were to actually repeat this out
in the real world, most people would look at you and go, oh my God, I think you
are having a mental health episode. The everything app ladies and gentlemen. This is the new female
protagonist by the way I am but I'm not sure if it's the same person. Why can't people just enjoy
things? Why? We are getting progressively dumber and dumber and dumber as a society, okay?
Progressively. It is actually mind boggling. I don't know what else to say other than like
People are just so fucking stupid and they're so transphobic and it does not even matter
It just once everyone becomes just as stupid then the stupid people might as well be right
Okay
Anyway playlist for later Harris new economic policy speech in one hour her MSNBC interview at 7 p.m. Eastern
Yeah, we got a lot of good stuff
We got a lot of good stuff on the docket ladies and gentlemen. Okay. We're gonna get to that
I was at work and got to talk about you because of your news story.
A lot of people saw you who didn't know you, hell yeah, personal news wise.
I don't really have anything else going on.
I worked out this morning.
I forgot to upload the video as I normally do when I do workout.
It was a little baby workout.
I mean, I did some push day.
I am just so weak on my chest.
So frustrating
My my chest is so weak. I barely put up 225. I did it for a total of 15
But I had to do it with like
I had to do it in three different
sets
Cap a shit you got huge titties. Yeah, but
It's just not
225 is I mean I can barely do it for six dude. It's not good. It's just not good at all
I'm just so goddamn weak thinking about the Israeli pop song from a few months back telling Iran not to attack them
He ain't no disrespect but I straight up don't believe you
I mean it's all good
My bench numbers are just never going to get up
I don't think it's very frustrating
Tel Aviv and Eliott were hit with drones of ballistic missiles today
Iron Dome seems to be faltering
Okay, 325 or 225 225 not 325 if I was putting up 325 on my chest. I'll be fucking nonstop
nonstop talking about
How sick I am
No, Jay Mershawn. I am not gonna watch the cute video that you're sending me. All right, let's blast off
Okay, my first day as a subscriber
Do you think if Kamala wins the Dems will codify Roe v Wade or not like the past 51 years
I think you already answered your own question at 2pm. I'm going to have the blowback pod boys on
Brandon James and Noah Cohen will be on the broadcast. You guys know them. You guys love them
They are responsible for some of the best podcast series out there
the blowback podcast, of course
and
You know, I'm very excited to host them again. They have a new season that just came out this time on Cambodia
Monday. Yeah. Really fire. They
were on shop on Monday. Yeah.
Kamala unveils more econ
policy. Israel gearing. To
invade Lebanon. Question mark.
Yeah, Kimaru is what we're
going to be talking about. Do
we have a blast off meme?
We're not endorsing without concessions.
Talk about your Halloween ideas, Ankh.
Yeah, we'll get to that in a little bit.
I don't think it's a question at this point.
Israelis are already circulating a lab of southern Lebanon
with Israeli village names.
Yeah, I saw that already.
That was yesterday.
Blast off meme.
Bro, that's not even a, bomb lefts.
That's not a Halloween costume.
That's just something I wear regularly.
You just strapped on the fucking worm around it.
Kamala unveils more Ecom policy,
Israel gearing to invade Lebanon,
people yell at Chabbarone over not endorsing
without concessions, Cornell to deport student,
Blinken caught hiding Israeli war crime report,
Israeli war crime report Noah Brandon James on the pot on the show, www.twitch.b slash
Osnavi. Okay, um, let's do it. Let's blast the freak off. Honestly, what cracks me up about
I'm not saying that right chapel Roan, not chappelle chapel Roan.
Is that they made a leftist queer a mega star and now our mad that she's left isn't queer. Yeah.
You don't have to type www.unk. I think so.
Talk about our brother Marcel as Williams. I did yesterday. I did yesterday.
Quite a bit. All right, here it is.
quite a bit. All right, here it is. This is the bomb left inspired Halloween fit, which
I think is really funny because it's not even a fucking Halloween fit. It's just something
I wear regularly, but the only addition to this Halloween fit is the worm, which would
turn me into, I guess, the, what's the character? Toji, yeah. If I get the worm, it's like
easy. I can be told you eat super easy. I can't believe they executed, I can't believe they
executed Marcel Williams, barbaric. Welcome to the United States of America. We are a
nation that participates in barbarism every single day. This is who we are. This is
what we are. We are an inherently violent country with an inherently violent culture.
And we are incredibly violent to one another and a lot of people don't comprehend how violent
these structures are until they are also within the crosshairs until something that they care
about is taken from them.
Few more days until this arrives by the way.
Oh my God, that's a beautiful emote.
I love that.
Your photo at the booth came out.
Hell yeah.
Okay, so my man
Um, just about to play through the MGS series for the first time or the two older games necessary to play. Uh, yes
And I would I would I
Would urge you to start with MGS one because MGS one might come across as like a little unplayable with how bad the graphics are
If you get used to like the older games like the newer games, sorry
But if you're asking about like, if you're asking about the old, old MGS, like I'm talking
PlayStation, I'm talking Metal Gear Solid, like not the, not the Metal Gear series that
is like NES games. Like you don't have to play those, but I would say that Metal Gear
Solid, the first in the franchise that is like, the first in the franchise that
is on the PlayStation platform.
I recommend that for sure.
The MGS Volume 1 is getting a massive patch on PC
that's gonna make it much better.
Play the GameCube, remaster MGS Twin Snakes
instead of the PS1.
Bro, when are you not live, Loll?
MGS1 graphics aren't the issue.
It's the very data control, still a banger,
though, and holds up extremely well.
But yeah, Metal Gear Solid
and Metal Gear Solid 2 are incredible.
Metal Gear Solid 2 holds up very well
in every aspect. Metal Gear Solid 3 is the most perfect game in the franchise anyway.
Most people will say that it's probably their favorite game. And then 4 and 5 are fine. I
mean, they're good. They remastered MGS 1-3 on PS3? No.
Hasan Pikers looks or is, or like his political takes, overhyped, underwhelming, and definitely
not as deep as he thinks they are. He might have the muscles, but even Photoshop
Can't smooth out that dumb fuck expression all that time in the gym and still the best thing about him is when the camera glitches and freezes his face.
Thank you.
Once again, if you repeat a certain thing.
Maybe it'll be true eventually.
Good luck to you.
Crazy cyber bully interaction.
Guys, there is no planet in which you can cyber bully.
as a content watcher, the person whose content you are watching, okay, it is at that point
entirely up to the person that is receiving that statement to be allowed to be bullied
in that regard, okay?
Like you say, LOLcows, but again, you can't LOLcow someone if they do not lean into it.
like a lot of these people, a lot of these people that are like law cows in general used
to have, you know, some careers, right? And then they leaned into it over and over again.
They leaned into it over and over again. And inevitably they became like that became
their only content. Okay. Like DSP or what was the guy Boogie 1488. And if you don't
I don't know what a lockout is.
Trust me, it's good.
It's your healthy individual.
Don't worry about it.
Yeah, this is a funny tweet I saw from Lolo that he reserves.
I totally agree that Biden Harris is a transition ticket,
and I'm excited to see a progressive ticket in 2024
that listens to us on Medicare for All-In and the Green
New Deal.
I said, were you not a house on a hit in 2020?
Shake in my head.
because it's like, why is he complimenting you?
I mean, I think some locales
are just genuinely very mentally ill.
Yeah, why is the suit?
Is there some real shit going on?
Talking about locales,
guess who's getting smoked like a brisket in the courts?
Oh yeah, I mean, yeah.
I think it's shocking to hear a lull over rule
to have a take like this in 2020.
If he was a Hassanabi head back then,
he would have known better is what I'm saying.
Okay. This man never responds to my text. No health care. 40,000 more troops 11 on. Yep. Text
Lolo back. I don't even know when he texted me that I didn't respond to. But to be fair,
I did. I did. I did literally ask him to fly over and stay with me if he wants to.
I'm a gaming frog and last night's woke game is the first time I've been glad to see you
abandon a playthrough. Yeah. Anyway, um, the jacket is real fresh. Yeah, the jacket is
I think my dads are my brothers. I don't know. Um, but no, your hater dust born is
good. I don't I didn't enjoy it that much. I'll be honest. It's like, like the content
that we can derive out of it is exclusive to the content that we can derive out of it is exclusively about me like making jokes about how like lame the game is because the the main characters are the most annoying people that you could put together it's like
But like not so mentally ill that you can even be entertained by how insane they are.
They're just like, just balanced enough and annoying enough that they're just like a very specific type of queer adult millennial in a leftist polycule from the tumblr generation.
Anyway, let's watch this, uh, this, this, uh, absolute banger.
I like that.
I mean, this basically captures the essence of Israeli politics in general, which is Iran
don't shoot or will shoot showing American missiles showing like American fighter jets.
I love that. Like for me, it's it just basically captures the very essence of Israeli politics
because the song comes in the aftermath of Israel blowing up the Iranian fucking embassy
compound in Damascus. Okay, which is a direct violation of Iranian sovereignty. And right
right before the retaliation is supposed to occur the expected retaliation that is supposed
to occur from Iran that was I would say negotiated at that point they're like don't do it because
we'll do it again.
There's just some so spiritually fucked up with Israel bro I'm sorry it's like like
Jewish people across the board, if you want to understand how, like, Israel is not in any way, shape, or form
representative of Jewish culture, Judaism as a whole,
like Jewish people as a whole, just look to the art, okay?
Look to the art. Look to the the long history of Jewish art, okay?
Jews making art in general, and then look to the type of art that comes out of Israel.
it is just like mind boggling to me. It is insane. It is crazy. Okay. That's it.
This was fire. This was fire. Y'all are just jealous, dude. Y'all are just jealous. Y'all are
just jealous. Jealousy is not a good look on you, sweetie. Anyway, has anyone answered it in
the U.S. or Israel at what point are countries a lot defending themselves versus Israel? Or is
It always just never
Yeah, the answer is it's never the answer is never
Reason development. I was talking to ultra Zionist who has defended Israel every step of the way over the past year
And I sent them that near and times of whiskey showing I have a killing entire morning family in middle of shoe with a white flag war crime
By the way, and they said you have to fight fire with fire war is nasty and ugly. Okay, so cool
You're just a terrorist then the answer is yes at a certain point. You just got to give up. I'm telling you
Okay, you just
You just got to give up
When people go, if Israel used the new, with the U.S. still supported, the answer is something
that you don't want to know, okay? I don't want to give you an answer to that, but the answer
is not going to make you happy, okay? All things considered, looking at what Israel has been able
to get away with, the answer is absolutely, okay? It absolutely, because guess what? Israel
has used five nuclear arms worth of munitions on Gaza over the course of the past 12 months,
and America has basically given them more, not a peep, pure defense, and not only pure
defense, but now Israel is doing pure offense. Okay, now Israel is doing pure offense in
Lebanon. It started with a terror attack, okay, and it continued with gearing up for
full blown ground invasion, which is crazy because every single person keeps saying there
is no way Israel can pull this shit off. Okay. It doesn't make sense. They've lost to Hezbollah
before this morning. I was listening to the New York Times daily and they were talking
about how Hezbollah was born out of the desire to purge the Israeli invasion in Lebanon.
And I thought to myself, hmm, that's interesting. At least they're offering historical context.
This is strange. This is new. This is unique. Very cool.
And then they moved into like current day and they kept talking about like how Hezbollah
has tunnels inside of Lebanon. And I was thinking to myself, it's like dog,
I can't believe you're describing these people, this like militant group, this resistance
group. Okay. And you're talking about their military capabilities that are purely
defensive, okay, like tunnel systems that are purely defensive in a whole ass sovereign
nation. Can you, it's like looking at American nuclear missile silos inside of the United
States or any number of different like protective measures that we have and talking about it
like it's a bad thing. Okay. Like, yeah, dude, that's a whole ass different country.
How do they have an entire tunnel system underneath their whole ass sovereign nation?
I wonder why.
Yeah, it's like complaining that the Pentagon has a fucking basement.
Like what are you talking about?
It is their country.
It's a different country.
I can't stress this enough like with Gaza, there is legalese, right?
There is like this legal gray area that Israel has been able to define where they're
like occupiers, but also not really kind of see they have their own governance or whatever
the fuck. But like with Lebanon and that stuff is already bullshit, right? Like Israel's justifications
to make it seem like on a good day that they're not a belligerent occupier over Gaza is bullshit.
But having said that, at least like there is a legal gray area there, kind of, right?
Even though it's utterly illegal, but at least like you can kind of present an argument there.
But there is no argument when you are trying to contextualize Lebanese militias, okay, like the country of Lebanon as having done something wrong for building defense systems against potential invasion.
It doesn't have to be from Israel, like from anywhere, really, that is what countries do.
What do you think countries do?
do countries are supposed to have defenses. It makes no sense that they are talking about
this issue as though it's just so fucked up for Hezbollah to have mounted any kind of
defensive posture against their southern neighbor that has literally invaded them before and
occupied them before. Yeah, US and Israel also have underground command bunkers and ammo depots.
Duh, no shit. Of course they do. And there is no world where you're like, that's a bad thing,
okay? Like, when we have it, it's good. That's it. The only thing you need to understand
about this is that if we have it or if Israel has it, it's good. But if our, if anyone that
Israel declares to be an enemy, it doesn't matter. It's bad. Okay. If tomorrow Israel
declared France an enemy of Israel, we would have the same fucking analysis. We'd be like,
now dog, sorry, France. You really fucked up with your anti-Semitic ass defensive posture against
Israel. That's anti-Semitic. You need to get wiped off the map. Excuse me. Please. Does Lebanon have
a right to defend itself? The answer is no. Under international law, the answer is yes.
Under American law, the answer is no. No country that Israel wants to fucking fight against,
No country that Israel has decided it is going to take action against is a country that is a
sovereign nation with its own territorial interests, with its own civilians, with its own citizens,
with its own defensive posture. You cannot, you cannot defend yourself, okay? If Israel wants
to blow you up, you have to sit there and take it and then say thank you so much. Anyway here
U.S. officials, this is where we're going to start, and then we're going to get into
Lebanon, and then we'll talk more about, like, obviously, the internal dynamic here before
we get the blowback boys on.
Five with BBC News.
Sorry, before we get to that, though, here.
So obviously, Israel did an attack of terror on Lebanese soil.
They exploded, they exploded booby traps, civilian communications devices.
The Western media covered it as though it was a profound, you know, incredible feat of,
of impressive espionage.
Leon Panetta, the former CIA director was like, no, it's terrorism.
UN human rights advocates said, no, it's terrorism.
It's a war crime.
This is a war crime.
And it's actually opening up the door to like severe problems for everyone else.
Okay.
But hey, Israel got that, you know what I mean?
John Federman's on board, you know, Americans are Americans that love only reading the news
and never really exercising a single shred of critical thinking.
They loved it.
So who cares what other people think?
Reddit liked it.
So it's not an act of terror.
Also here's the US State Department.
in the story from last week, is it the Pentagon's view that it is acceptable, it's acceptable
under the laws of war to booby trap civilian objects and place them amongst civilian populations.
Is that acceptable for any nation to do?
That's something that, well one, without commenting on an operation that the U.S. military had
no involvement in, it's hard for me to get into the hypotheticals.
I'm not a lawyer, I'm not going to try and go down and explain.
if you were a lawyer, you would say, of course it's not acceptable. It is a war crime. Okay.
It's a war crime. That's just, it's simple. Okay. You're not a lawyer. Let's refer to the lawyers.
Okay. Lawyers said it's a war crime. Moving on. And also, you don't like the reason why people
have to find hypotheticals in a situation that actually happened. I can't stress this enough.
This is a real thing that already occurred. Israel did it, okay, in Lebanon.
The reason why we have to resort to hypotheticals is because when Israel does it, you say it's okay.
So what if someone else did it to us or to Israel or to our European allies, you know,
people that we do think are human beings? What if someone did that? Well, in that circumstance,
I think you would all understand if Russia did it, you'd be like, up war crime, war crime
alert or crime alert. They're at it again. You know, legally, it's from here. So I just
can't comment further on that operation. Yeah. U.S. the effecting supply chains or intercepting
supply chains in order to place explosive items within normal consumer objects. Yeah,
I'm not going to comment on a hypothetical or an operation that we had no part of. Yeah.
Yeah, anyway
The deadly pager operation in Lebanon was like the first strike and
Then they started they went back to you know doing Israel shit famous Israel shit, which is carpet bombing villages
carpet bombing towns and
Putting out shitty CGI to be like this is why we're gonna carpet bomb your villages
Now, they're not doing it to a territory that they are the belligerent occupier of,
but which is already illegal, and they don't have a right to defend themselves in that
way.
But now they're also doing it to a whole-ass, sovereign-ass nation, the nation of Lebanon.
This is not Gaza anymore.
But if you were to look at the media and the way that they're covering it, you
might have thought, oh, it is the Gaza.
It is.
This is Gaza 2.0.
Hasbullah is Hamas. We went from Hamas to Hasbullah. Let's take a look at how BBC is
covering the Israeli army chief telling troops Lebanon strikes are preparing ground for attack.
I'm Anna Foster here in Beirut as fears continue to grow. Can you let me know what the argument is
for Lebanon self-defense when the uninitiated people tell Lebanon is the one who started this
retaliation support for Gaza. The Hezbollah initiatives in southern Lebanon and in northern
Israel have been a constant tit for tat. Okay, pre October seven and certainly post October
seven. And even in that tit for tat Israel is responsible for 70 or 80% of the munitions
being deployed. Israel is responsible for 80% of all rockets fired in the back and
forth tit for tat. Okay? Israel has shown every regional actor, everyone that is that
has eyes to see that is a brain cell to understand these issues that they will never back down
if you ask them gently. Okay? This is after 78 years of brutal occupation and the maintenance
of an apartheid. So of course, regional actors are like, okay, well, we are going
to make this as costly as possible for you. We know you have an iron dome. We know that
you'll be able to intercept most of these missiles, but they're very costly. Okay, they're very
costly for you. It's costly for you to have 20,000 civilians evacuate the northern territories
that you are currently occupying. It's going to be costly for you to use to mere intercept
their missiles. Okay, it's a game of math at that point. And now the iron dome has
started not working. When that starts occurring, and missiles start hitting Tel Aviv, for example,
when that happens, then inevitably more and more people are going to leave Israel.
They are no longer going to feel safe in Israel. They are going to want to leave Israel
and go to America or Western nations or any other country for that matter. This presents a
genuine threat to the Zionist project of establishing a Jewish ethno-state in the area. Okay? If
you no longer can be the start-up nation, if you no longer can be the nation that is
beautiful that made the desert bloom, all of a sudden people are going to be, you
know, you're not going to have academics, okay? You're not going to have artists,
you didn't really have a lot to begin with. Holy fuck. The Jews are God's people, you dumb fucks.
I unbanned this person specifically because I wanted to let him chirp, okay? GG. Jewish people
are God's people. God will defend his people. Jesus will come back and when he does, question mark
holy. Fuck Hamas. This dude needs to crawl back under his rock and die. God has Israel's back.
Nuff said, fuck that, Betelgeuse banned him, I unbanned him because I knew he was going
to come out with some incredible stuff. He said, the Jews are God's people, dumb fucks.
Love that. Thank you. Is it a hardware issue? Is the dome bugged? Is it outdated? How is the dome
failing exactly? I mean, what do you mean how is the dome failing? It's being overwhelmed.
There is a fine. At the end of the day, there is a finite amount of missiles that you can
utilized. The Iron Dome is not actually a dome. Okay, the Iron Dome is a surface to air
missile system. Okay, which means you're launching missiles at the missiles that are coming in,
oftentimes two at a time, as a matter of fact. Anyway, let's get further escalation in the
conflict here in the Middle East. We've heard just in the last hour the chief of
Israel's defense forces speaking to soldiers on the northern border telling
them to prepare for a ground invasion into southern Lebanon. And we also heard
the UK Prime Minister, Sikir Starmer, talking about that and other world
conflicts and crises at the UN in New York. Of course countries from around
the world meeting for the General Assembly in our Sumisama Scanda is there
and has been following developments over the last few days. And Sumi when
Can you hear the calls there for de-escalation?
I think having Israel set up troops for a ground invasion of a whole sovereign nation
after 12 months of conducting its genocidal campaign in a territory that it illegally
occupies and opening up a new front with America's backing, while simultaneously the
The UN is just like, you know, listening to Joe Biden talk about how, oh, I did NATO.
Like what a beautiful juxtaposition right here, you know, what a perfect demonstration of how
feckless and how powerless these institutions are and how little they are actually doing
their primary duty, which is not to necessarily uphold international law and rules, right,
but more so to at the very least present it as though there is some semblance of international
rule-based order. They're failing on the PR front, just like the American peer failed
on the PR front. That is what this is. The primary function of the UN is to at
least make it seem as though Western nations are interested in international collaboration
and uphold a certain set of standards. Okay? But they're not doing that. They're even failing
on the PR front.
But here in the Middle East, the messages, the sounds, the noise and the fury is very
different. Are they expecting at the UN General Assembly to have an impact on what's happening
here. And that really is the most striking difference that I'm seeing right now. These
tones of escalation that you're witnessing on the ground there in Lebanon, so different
to these calls for de-escalation for ceasefire as we've now heard from the British Prime
Minister.
The Iron Dome has never been tested and was largely sold on marketing and is a farce.
I'll be shocked if Israel's willing to put it on to the test in fear of exposing
the emperors having no clothes. What are you talking about? The Iron Dome absolutely
gets tested. It's just only been tested on fucking like bathtub rockets and shit. And
also the, the Hezbollah rockets that are not bathtub rockets, but they're no, it definitely
has been tested.
There are statistics for its level of success in Israel. The reason why Israel does not let
anyone else have the iron dome is specifically because they're worried that if Ukraine,
for example, got the iron, well, two reasons. One, because Israel and Russia have obvious
partnerships and have consistently maintained like decent relationships, regardless of what
Vladimir Putin says or regardless of what Benjamin Netanyahu says.
That's one aspect of this conversation.
The other aspect of this conversation is that Benjamin Netanyahu refused Ukraine getting
an Iron Dome.
And the reason why they didn't want to give Ukraine an Iron Dome is because they were
worried that if Russia were to overtake and overwhelm Ukraine, at least this was
their outward reasoning that Russia would have access to the Iron Dome and would give
it to Iran.
The reality is, ultimately Iron Dome is a phenomenal piece of tech, okay?
It is.
It has done a really good job of hoarding attacks from Hamas and Hezbollah and anyone
else for that matter, except now it is actually being penetrated.
And not only is it being penetrated by like loiter munitions, it's being penetrated by
obviously, uh, uh, with a hypersonic missiles, which the Houthis apparently have, which is
crazy.
Obviously, nothing is impossible to penetrate when you have, uh, you know, when you have
enough of a will.
This is a similar situation to Republicans wanting to invade Mexico to fight the
cartels.
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Courser, Kirsten Sturmer, and world leaders gathered here are the ones who, at least on
the sidelines of the summit, could possibly move forward some diplomatic action.
We talked to the Israeli ambassador to the United Nations yesterday, and we saw him again
today, and we know that there is this United Nations Security Council meeting taking place
this afternoon, particularly on the conflict, on the escalating situation in Lebanon.
Remember, it was France that called for this meeting.
Well, the Israeli ambassador told us he will be going to that UN Security Council
meeting. And he had told us that he wants to make sure that they understand that the
aggressor here is Iran. So of course, they are thinking about civilians. He told me as
the rest of the world is, as we are seeing these calls for a ceasefire. And that is important
to the Israelis. But they want it to be clear at the UN Security Council meeting
that Iran and Hezbollah are the aggressors.
I'm from Lebanon. And I know friends whose homes and villages have been bombed. And
guess what? There were no missiles there. How does the world fall for the human
shield lie? They're just justifying murdering civilians. The 3D renders look like
obvious bullshit. My friend, if you're Lebanese, you already know this reality, but like, they
just don't think you're human being. That's it. It's the sad state of affairs. And, and,
but it is what it is in the Western world. People do not think you're a real human being
whose life is worth anything. I hate to say it, but it is true. If you are Muslim,
if you are Arab, if you happen to live in a, in a country that has Muslims or
Arabs as a significant percentage of his population. If you're a country that is in the crosshairs of
Israel or America, your lives are not worthy. Okay, there are certain Muslim vassal states that also
take priority over others, Saudi Arabia, UAE, these are countries, especially Gulf nations,
that also obviously get to, you know, as long as they're like killing, as long as they're
killing other enemies of America, enemies of the state, they get to do whatever they want
to as well.
Or sometimes maybe you can use an attack from a certain country's nationals as a justification
for invading the Middle East, then it's also fine, you know, 9-11, Saudi Arabia.
There's just no amount of cruelty and evil that the American state will not abide by as
long as it subscribes to their material interests, their material needs, as long as it fucking
creates a just cause for additional weapons contracts and death and destruction of the
third world, extraction of natural resources from places like Iraq, for example, they
will always abide by it, they don't give a shit.
It would be very interesting to see what might come out of that, Anna, because, as you said,
the situation is heating up on the ground with this possibility of a ground and-
Yeah, the entire system.
Iron Dome is the name for the short range and very precise part of the Israeli air defense
system.
The whole system includes Yachalom and David String.
You have Arrow 1, Arrow 2 as well.
Iron Dome is great for short range defense for a very particular direction, meaning
against Hamas, Raghaz, Ramgaza.
Otherwise, David String is the main long range system.
Yes.
But the entirety of the Israeli surface-to-air counter-missile system has failed.
It has failed since October 7th.
And that presents a unique problem for Israel.
Israel must maintain this veneer of security so that it can continue presenting itself
as so that you can continue presenting yourself as like a western adjacent nation in the middle of the Middle East if it cannot do that then it's not going to have artists and academics travel to Israel okay it also has to maintain itself as a moral nation an important democracy despite the fact that it's obviously not considering that it is a fucking apartheid state doing a genocide
There's just, you know, they will become a social pariah.
They have become a social pariah.
More and more people will be like, I'm never going to go to Israel.
And that is also going to create more pressure.
This is how apartheid South Africa perished.
OK. When you lose Radiohead, that's when you're completely gone.
You know, caution.
Everyone we've been speaking to here,
including the Swedish foreign minister, who I just spoke to,
she said, we're speaking to all of our allies to underline the point
that we must find a diplomatic solution so that civilians in Lebanon can return to their
homes as well as in Israel.
But at the moment, as things are so hot on the ground, it looks like a very steep hill
to climb, doesn't it?
Yeah.
And as you've been reflecting yourself, see me on BBC News, the last couple of days
as well, not just the Middle East that's on the table there.
We heard of course, President Zelensky speaking earlier as well.
There are other crises, other conflicts that need the world's attention too.
Absolutely.
so president Zelensky delivering his address to the UN.
I've seen more impacts in Israel in the last few days in the entire last year, like dozens
and dozens of sites have been hit, but the media ignores it, which surprised me because
it plays into the whole victim complex thing.
No.
The media has ignored the Ansarullah missile striking Tel Aviv as well.
There's a very important reason for that.
That is because if Israeli society no longer feels comfortable inside of the boundaries
of Israel, they will change their attitude towards how Israel presents itself as a consistent
aggressor against all of its enemies that are worthy of death and destruction.
You cannot disrupt the veneer of security.
This is why October 7 was so significant.
Because October 7 is a military operation from a bunch of ascetic resistance groups
that were able to pull it together, was a genuinely, like, psyche-breaking moment for
Israeli society.
IDF's Arabic spokesman releases a video mocking refugees from southern Lebanon, showing him
watching videos of them fleeing on his phone, calls them ignorant of Hezbollah's true nature
and says they are now crawling towards an unknown fate.
The media ignores it because all you seek is Western information.
will never be a pariah state as long as the UK and US continues to glaze them. That's not true.
Israel already has become a pariah state, and Israel was a pariah state in the third world
already, but it's especially now becoming a pariah state in the Western hemisphere, which is
far more consequential. When people start going, uh, you're from Israel. That's weird. It's over.
Okay. The project has completely collapsed. You understand? It doesn't matter how hard
fucking the US and the UK blaze it doesn't matter how hard fucking mainstream media tries to present this image
I'm telling you right now
When someone goes, uh, I don't know about that the moment that normies go wait. You're from israel
But they're doing a whole bunch of crazy stuff. Aren't they the moment that that happens the moment that that happens
You have become officially a fucking pariah state. Okay
Okay. This is exactly what happened with apartheid South Africa. There is no way out of that situation.
And what Israel has done is basically use this as the last opportunity they have to do as
much land grabs as possible, as many land grabs as possible. And that is only, but that
is only worsening the, the standing that Israel has in Western society, which is
very important. Okay. Like, you can't, you can't, this is anti
Semitism your way out of that problem. You just can't, you
can't do that. People don't give a shit. People will literally
just directly respond to that by being anti Semitic, which is
the secondary damaging aspect of Israel tying itself so closely
to Judaism in a false way to defend itself. Like people don't
give a shit. They're like, All right, well, I saw blown
people I don't give a fuck okay yeah okay I'm anti-semitic then it will be the response and
has been the response as a matter of fact this makes it this makes it doubly awful when I think of
Israel now I think the idea of soldiers on their days off wearing those acid wash denim capris and
they all have creeping PTSD from the slaughter they have done at the loudest David get a music
cannot drown it out at night like as long as Israel continues it's a bloody conquest as long
as Israel continues its bloody conquest, it's not going to go away. Like people are still
going to be further and further more grossed out by it. And you can't like hide the truth.
You can't hide the truth by just being like, yeah, it's now illegal to be mean to Israel.
Okay. Which is precisely what American college campuses are trying to do right now. It's
precisely what Dana Nessel did in Michigan. It's what Cornell is doing with the PhD grad
student that they're literally deporting from the country, the Muslim grad student.
Yeah, like you getting called anti-semite of the week, all you could do was throw your hands up and say, fine, I made these a medic then.
Yeah, I mean, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
And like that would have that would have worked
as a very successful way
to separate who I am and my commentary from those
who want to hear it, okay? Five years ago, that would have been genuinely genuinely a successful message.
Okay, in terms of like immediately
immediately stopping someone and chastising them, dead in their fucking tracks, it worked
against Jeremy Corbyn, okay? Five years into the future, when everyone understands like
organizations like StopAntisemism.org that get like grants from the Israeli Knesset,
by the way, to operate in this way in the United States of America, nobody gives a shit.
gives a shit. Like it's ridiculous. It's utterly ridiculous to be like, wow, you're really anti-Semitic
for saying that Israel is an apartheid state, which is what the human rights watch has openly
declared. Amnesty International is openly declared. There's like 18 fucking NGOs, including Israeli
human rights groups that have recognized the reality and have openly declared as such,
because it is the truth. The ICJ has recognized it. The ICJ a couple months back, straight
upset, Israel is currently unjustifiably occupying Palestinian territories and they must immediately
remove themselves from both the West Bank and Gaza. You don't talk about it, you don't cover it in
the Western news, but that is the reality. And when that is the reality, someone like myself now
will get hit with cynical anti-Semitism allegations, but I could just turn around and
point to those things that people do care about, that people do still believe, that still have a
shred of credibility, especially amongst normies. It's just, it's ridiculous. And even people that
don't know, even people that aren't aware of these institutions, these NGOs or whatever, they
still see like blown up babies and go, oh, that's a little gross, maybe that's a bridge too far.
Earlier today, that got, of course, plenty of attention. He spoke specifically about what
he said was a renewed Russian threat on nuclear facilities in Ukraine, and at this point there
was really to reach out to delegates here at the United Nations to say this is not a conflict
that just affects Ukraine and my country, but rather could soon be something that is
brought to the rest of Europe and to the rest of the world as well.
And he specifically pointed to the global south, to Brazil, to China, and said that
any alternate peace plans that are presented should not be heated because any peace plan
must be a just peace that goes through Ukraine.
So certainly that has been a big topic of conversation here today.
We know that President Zelensky has headed to the White House on Thursday to present
his plan for victory to President Biden there.
And we'll see what developments happen there.
But I have to say on a certainly the escalation in Lebanon is the topic that is dominating
the agenda again.
We'll be following that UN Security Council meeting taking place a little bit later today.
Our chief foreign correspondent, Ian, thousands fleas, Israel wars and more strikes against
Hezbollah.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Interesting.
Hmm.
The panel is on the scene in Beirut with the latest on the new attacks overnight.
Good morning, Ian.
Yeah.
Good morning, Robin.
I think deeply worrying signs that this conflict risk spiraling out of control.
The Iranian Batmurtian group has about a launching a surface to surface missile
towards Tel Aviv this morning.
According to Israel, this is the first time ever that they've done this.
This morning, Israel intercepting a deadly Hezbollah missile.
The militants say it was trying to attack Mossad HQ after that deadly pager attack.
But Israel says it was heading towards civilian areas of Tel Aviv.
It's the first time they've ever attacked the city and is another major escalation.
And overnight, a massive explosion in Jir, south of Beirut, CCTV footage showing the
strike as Israel warned more are being prepared. As the two warring sides ramp up their attacks,
hundreds of thousands of families now internally displaced in just three days.
We visited this school here in Beirut. It was too open for the new semester today. Instead,
it's a shelter offering beds and aid to the thousands fleeing the south.
One family telling us they traveled for nearly 20 hours to get to safety.
Two parents and their five children, their youngest, baby Mohammed, just eight months old.
And Afra tells us her priority over the last 24 hours was the safety of her kids.
She describes her family's trek to safety as difficult and filled with destruction.
The death toll across Lebanon rising to more than 550 with more than 1800 injured,
not just fighters, but women and children too.
Hezbollah firing back Tuesday, launching at least 13 attacks on Israel.
Well, a senior U.S. official telling us that Hezbollah is moving long range missiles around
now as Israel mobilizes for possible cross-border raids.
I love when they say spiraling out of control when it has never, when it has basically never
been in Palestinian or Arab control or wholly in the control of the West, just like spiraling
out of our control.
I mean, it's true.
60% of the 2006 war in two days, yep.
I mean, the U.S. and others have been working overtime to try and de-escalate
the situation.
So we're going to cover obviously Anthony Blinken.
I covered the story yesterday, ProPublica came out with a report that showed that USAID and
other State Department agencies had collected obvious data that you and I are very familiar
with because we follow this conflict closely that showed Israel directly in violation of
international human rights in terms of refusing to let in, refusing to let in food
and humanitarian aid into the area that were mercilessly bombing
now this is
a direct violation of international human rights
and if you do that
then america can't give you weapons it is illegal for the united states of
america to consistently offer you weapons
if you are violating human rights
denying
humanitarian aid to a civilian population is that violation
Okay. And it seems that Anthony Blinken was very aware of this human rights violation and he chose to lie.
Okay. Um, as we were talking about, as we were talking about, Anthony Blinken had full knowledge of this and yet still turned around and refused to refuse to acknowledge it because he knew that if he acknowledged it, then he would not be able to
unlimited unrestricted weapons to Israel. And he lied time and time again openly.
This puts him in criminal territory for the record. Okay? And I'm not just saying that is like,
I'm not just saying that is like, I don't know type, like this isn't like, this isn't just
like a random activist green piece type fucking attitude. This is like direct war crimes and,
key omissions of war crimes from another war criminal supporting a a country
doing war crimes it is against American law okay this is Oliver North shit I
mean obviously the Iran contra type shit not that it matters because look at what
happened Oliver North anyway we're joined by Secretary of State Antony
Blinken in town for the United Nations General Assembly Mr. Secretary
good morning to you. Thank you very much for being here. Boy, there's only so many times
you can mention escalating tensions and risks of an all-out war before it becomes cliche,
but things are definitely not going in the right direction. And I think there's a philosophy
question here for the U.S. to answer.
A philosophy question. By the way, obviously, obviously, our media apparatus is unsurprisingly
not doing a very good job addressing this, okay?
Do you end all of this violence in the Middle East by putting pressure on Israel to stop
on both fronts or do you empower Israel to finish the job?
Look, what we've seen since the horrific attacks on October 7th.
By the way, that's a direct Trump line.
Something to think about.
Anyway, I'm going to crack open a cold one here.
Limited edition Oreo, zero sugar, Coca-Cola creations, fizzy cookie flavored, okay?
at time. As I listened to the butcher Blinken himself, who loves to just keep on rocket in
the free world, you know, let me tell you, okay, it's not a fucking hashtag ad. Definitely
not. I tried it last night. It was kind of ass. Okay. I gave a review on take talk, but
I'm doing it again. The Coke flavor Oreos are super bad. Hope the Oreo Coke is better.
Coke flavored Oreos. Why are brands collaborating like this? This is, this is the other reason
why you don't have fucking healthcare dog. It just doesn't, it doesn't taste that good.
The comments on your Tik Tok were so funny. They were trying to cancel you for drinking
it. Yes, dude. Ultimately it does not matter. Just do just just keep your fucking head
down and keep advocating to free Palestine. Okay. Who gives a shit that like a bunch
of newcomers who have their heart in the right place, but their mind in a million different
directions, fucking chirping. I don't care. The aftertaste is not something that I like.
Both those brands are boycotted here. No, they're not. They are not on the official
BDS boycott list. Stop. Why is this community so annoying? Because a lot of people mistake
being left. This is being annoying and the more annoying you are the more leftist you
are. Thanks Asan. You just killed 10 kids. Yeah. I saved 10 kids and then I killed 10
kids. I'm balancing it out. Are we seriously doing the trying to do the I'm worker than
now shit in the chat. Yes. I mean people do that all the time. This is one of the
few communities online. This is one of the few communities online that is on the
left that absolutely doesn't pay any mind to that kind of shit. And I try to always
steer people in the best direction possible, you know. But yeah, there are plenty of spaces
where people don't do that. And it's fine. I don't really care. It ultimately doesn't
matter. I mean, the amount of people even on that like Chapel Roan, Hassan, Piker,
like tweet that got a shit ton of likes. The QRTs were filled to the brim with like free Palestine
types who were upset at me over my opinion on Venezuela and Cuba upset at me for not being
sufficiently radical enough upset at me for being too radical. It doesn't matter. Okay,
just fucking keep saying I'm not going to stop. I'm going to continue doing what I do.
I don't really care about the opinions of newcomers. It hasn't changed my direction. It has not
changed my mind even a little bit over the past decade, and it will not change my mind in the
foreseeable future. Okay, does it upset me to see people so easily duped? Yeah, a little bit. There
There is no need for, you know, Cointel Pro or anything like that.
There is no, there's no need for any kind of like federal law enforcement to try and engage
in like disruptive behavior because the left's organizational tools are already withered
away entirely.
And we kind of do it to ourselves anyway.
Let's continue.
Our periods when we've had a real risk of escalation, a real risk of something turning into a full-blown war,
including in Lebanon between Israel and Hezbollah.
And through diplomacy, through deterrence, we've managed to avert that in the days immediately following October 7th,
more recently in April.
We're focused right now on making sure that we can...
Chappell's BFF follows you on IG. You should try and get her on stream.
I don't know who Chappell's BFF is.
If that's like an actual route that I can take, then I would 100%.
The left here is so focused on individualistic virtues versus consistent solidarity.
Yeah.
Deescalate, avoid a full-scale war.
But Tony, Israel's got a legitimate problem here.
Starting on October 8th, Hezbollah in the north from southern Lebanon started lobbing rockets and missiles into Israel.
People living in northern Israel had to flee their homes about 70,000.
And Israel, understandably, legitimately, wants a secure environment so people can return home.
The best way to get that is through diplomacy and agreement to pull back forces, allow people
to return home in northern Israel, also many Lebanese and southern Lebanon forced from their
homes.
We want to get people back home.
The best way to do that is not war, it's diplomacy.
So Hezbollah went to their weapons systems.
Hezbollah began firing into Israel after October 7th in allyship with Hamas and
the people in Gaza. Where do ceasefire talks stand? Because if that is their motivation
there on the Hezbollah side, that's the key to making them pull back and stop.
That would certainly be one of the keys. It would be an ideal key because it would end
the horrific situation in Gaza, horrific for the hostages, horrific for so many men, women
and children who've been caught in this crossfire from ISIS-making. We've been
working on this ceasefire deal for a while. We have an agreement, a piece of paper
that's got 18 paragraphs, 15 of them are agreed.
The last three continue to need some work.
The problem we have right now is that Hamas
hasn't been engaging on it for the last couple of weeks.
Oh, my God.
This conversation should be, the centerpiece
of this conversation should be, hey,
if you're working tirelessly for a ceasefire,
why haven't you really, are there
no levers that you can pull or push on
in terms of like motivating Israel to do the thing that you want them to do.
If you don't want Israel to escalate the conflict into Lebanon, is there,
I don't know, something that you could do that you haven't done so far?
If, if, if our journalists weren't pure stenographers
slash mouthpieces for the Israeli government pretty much,
or at least the State Department, whose goals currently are directly
lined up with Israel's deadly conquest in the region, they would ask these questions. They
would say, hey, for the past 12 months at this point, America has consistently talked
about how upset they are with the way Israel is conducting itself and has regularly demanded
Israel to restrain itself. Israel has not seemingly Israel is also according to this
report in front of us from ProPublica was violating human rights, things that we have
reported on on mainstream media as well in terms of like denying humanitarian aid to
a civilian population that is mercilessly bombing, slowly but surely changing the dynamic
between what is considered a safe zone, which is also another violation of international
human rights law, and bombing humanitarian safe zones, killing more UN workers and
more humanitarian aid workers than ISIS and al Qaeda combined over the course of the past 11 to 12
months, including Western American citizens, and not just like American citizens who have
Palestinian citizenship as well, like American citizens with no other citizenship, British citizens,
Australian citizens. And at no point has Israel ever seemingly shown that they would demonstrate
restraint at all. So, which is it? Are you the worst politician? Are you the worst statesman of all
time? Are you a fucking idiot? Or are you purely evil? And you like that Israel is doing these
things. Bro, they can just pull a lever to stop it. The United States aligns with realism,
but the narrative they decide to present is that we have liberal motivations in Palestine bad.
Yeah, I think it's straight up beyond like material needs at this point. I think it goes into ideological territory for a lot of these allegiances, genuinely, like, I know I talk a big game about, I know I talk a big game about the material necessity for America's like,
on dying loyalty to Israel because it's a military base planted firmly in the middle of a resource rich region for sure that is the primary motivator for America, but I think that
that the secondary reason is not, no, it's not APAC, for those of you saying it's APAC,
APAC is just one aspect of this.
I think the scarier reason for our endless amount of support for Israel is an ideological
commitment, a genuine ideological commitment, okay, paired up with America's power at
the global stage diminishing, okay, where Israel is seen as the only reliable country
that has endless loyalty back to the United States of America, because Israel could not
exist without the United States of America in a way that Egypt could, right?
Egypt takes a shit ton of money from the United States of America, but Egypt could
technically go somewhere else.
Historically they have, right?
So I think that this is the last bastion, like the last ride or die ally that America
can maintain in the area that isn't built to the brim with Muslims, a Muslim population
that could technically overthrow its American puppet government, for example, Egypt once
again comes to mind.
So for that reason, I think, for that, like Saudi Arabia, great example, a very important
partner for American dominance in the region. Still, Muslim nation literally did 9-11 and
has in the past, even in its monarchy structure, actually won against America's wishes and still
continues to go against America's best interest in terms of like how it moves with OPEC
plus. Israel does not have that. Israel will do espionage to the American State
department from time to time. Israel will kill American troops from time to time. But
ultimately, I think the allegiance between Israel and America is ideological, but also
tighter than all these other countries. Because I think in some ways there is genuinely this
fear, I think about this all the time. I literally not stop thinking about this because
it just seems so stupid. It seems so stupid from the perspective of maintaining American
dominance to continue on this double suicide pack with Israel, like what could be the motivator,
what could be the reason?
And I think it is because I think it is partially a direct consequence of like America recognizing
its power, both soft power and hard power waning around the planet.
And this is like their last real fucking ride or die ally.
So they have to let them do whatever the fuck they want to do.
Okay, I'm from Iran.
They're not just escalating the war in 11-on.
It seems like they're looking for another 9-11 to justify attacking Iran by Trump terror
attempt bullshit.
Yes, this is something that I talked about yesterday as well.
But at what point does Israel cost more than it's worth?
Yes, it's a military base in the U.S. state, but its base is worth maintaining
through all of this.
I think that that is the calculation that they have in front of them right now,
which is that it's gone past the point of being worth it, but it doesn't matter.
They're too invested.
It's a sunk cost.
And Sunnoir, his leader, has been talking about an endless war of attrition.
Oh, that's the other aspect of it too.
I think there is a lot of white supremacist Islamophobic racism at play as well.
Israel's the head of the spear of Western civilization, whiteness against Muslim terror.
I think that that definitely plays a role as well, at least ideologically in the
minds and hearts of a lot of these people in positions of power you have to
remember a lot of these people that cynically deploy these narratives when
they're trying to justify the war on terror for example they do believe it
some of these people do believe it it's kind of like the Trump phenomenon when
we talk about like Trump and how the Republican Party was celebrating the
Tim Waltz choice because they were like he's so radical everyone's gonna hate
him you guys really fucked up by doing this it was a little bit wish
Witchcasting on their part, but it was also partially something that they truly believe they do
Truly believe that like America would consider Tim waltz to be far too fucking radical
Obviously that didn't work and it didn't happen even though the Harris camp still
Basically back pocketed Tim waltz for some weird fucking reason because they just want to lose I guess but oh
Oh, sometimes it's about the symbol and not the practicality the US doesn't need Cuba but allowing them the thrive would be costly to maintaining power over the rest of the global south kind of beat.
Yeah, it's kind of like the the execution in some ways kind of like the execution of of of of the Missouri state sanctioned execution of Marcellus Williams.
right? Like, he's innocent. All signs point to it. And yet, he was still executed last
night at 6, 10 p.m. Missouri time. Why? Why was he still executed when everybody understood
that he was not guilty of the crime that he, that the state claimed he committed? Even
the people, the prosecutor's office was maintaining his innocence, saying that this
is wrong. Why did they do it? Partially to uphold white supremacy and partially because
if you cave into, if you cave and capitulate the demands being made by the public, then
all of a sudden they're going to be like, well, we got a W here. They're going to
ask for more. They're going to start analyzing the death sentences of every single person.
We know as a matter of fact that at least 4% at minimum, the most conservative estimation,
at minimum, 4% of people executed by the state are completely innocent, like exonerated, okay?
Exonerated after death, usually, or even before, but they still continue the execution.
Once you start realizing that the state is like, you know, killing a bunch of people
that it knows is innocent, then you have a very different analysis on the death penalty.
And if you know a lot, and then a lot of people start going, wait, I don't want this, what
the fuck? And by the way, for the record, anti-death penalty in a country as draconian
as the United States of America for the first time in its history, one of the only
instances is a more popular position than being pro-death penalty. Think about that.
For the first time, I believe in years, in the United States of America, the majority
public opinion is anti-death penalty, which is crazy to think about, because for the Europeans
who are watching right now, Americans are really fucking aggressive in terms of how
to punish criminals.
You didn't know that.
Americans are unique in the Western world in comparison to our OECD nations in the
way that we view the death penalty. So, let's continue.
Now, if he really cares about the Palestinian people, he'd bring this agreement over the
finish line.
Mr. Secretary, do you believe that Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu truly wants a ceasefire?
If we're talking about Gaza, as I said, I think hard decisions remain to be made
by Israel. But the problem right now in terms of bringing this across the finish
line is Hamas. It's refusal to engage in a meaningful way. We've been at this
Yeah, Hamas is refusing to engage in a in a meaningful way with the country that executed
the primary, the principal negotiator, which once again, we just kind of, we just kind
of forgot about. I love when we just like memory hole so much of the awful things that
Israel has done throughout this entire fucking process. And it's also directly a consequence
of the guys that are supposed to be asking these questions. Like, what do you mean
Hamas is refused to engage in a meaningful way. Like, sure, okay, they're a designated
terror organization. That's one thing. But also Israel executed their principal negotiator
in in violation of the sovereignty of a separate state Iran, a state that you have said you
do not want Israel to go to direct conflict with.
In recent weeks again, trying to get so on last part, you could blame one. So Israeli
Prime Minister, what we're seeing is this, I don't think this is a question really
any more of the substance of the agreement, because it's very close.
It is a question of political will.
In the first instance, that political will needs to be demonstrated by Hamas.
We haven't seen it the last couple of weeks.
Israel would have some hard decisions to make to bring this to a close, but we've
got to see if Hamas is actually serious.
Mr. Secretary of ProPublica has determined that two agencies found that Israel is deliberately
stopping humanitarian aid from getting to civilians.
And as you well know, the U.S. government says that it has to restrict supplying the
weapons to a country that does this type of thing.
Why have we not done so?
So this is actually pretty typical.
We had a report to put out on the humanitarian situation in Gaza and what Israel was doing
to try to make sure that people got the assistance they needed.
And I had different assessments from different parts of the State Department, from other
agencies that were involved, like USAID.
My job is to sort through them, which I did, draw some conclusions from that, and we put
out our report and we found that Israel needs...
He's like, yeah, we found a report, but then we also found out that doesn't correspond to
our best interests here, okay?
Because we are still interested in giving Israel unlimited weapons.
So we decided to just omit that.
And also lie to Congress, by the way.
Like that's his own department being like, Hey, man, this is fucked up, like it's getting
a little bit out of control, don't you think?
And he's like, yeah, shut the fuck up.
That's what's going on here.
Is this sort of pushback on CBS morning is a good sign?
Yeah.
If they keep up this pushback, even at the end of this interview or tomorrow or the
day after, then yeah, it's a good sign because it means that things are changing.
If they simply ask this question and then let him get away with this like wishy washy
bull should answer, especially when you look at the time remaining in this fucking video,
I suspect that they do let him get away with this.
And then never cover the story ever again, then yeah, no, they're complacent and they
don't give a fuck.
And they just did their due diligence to maintain a veneer of credibility.
They have to still maintain an air of credibility so that they can continue doing propaganda.
Remember that.
This is that part.
This is the unique part.
This is the unceremonious like every now and then when you go, hold on, what the fuck is
the media saying?
That's crazy.
Let's hear it.
Let's hear it one more time.
What her question was directly about the ProPublica, directly about the ProPublica
article that showed that USAID and the State Department, its own internal investigations
created a memo 17 pages long that showed Anthony Blinken without a shred of doubt that Israel
was violating international human rights laws and therefore weapons transfers would be threatened.
Okay. Because it's in direct contribution with American laws on top of the Geneva
Convention on international human rights laws. Okay. Anthony Blinken recognizing that
memo and and reading that memo and then continuing to defend Israel's, continuing to defend
Weberstraces with the Israel's means that he is in violation. He is a war criminal himself.
And in a just world he would be going to jail. That is the reality. But of course it's not
going to happen.
What Israel was doing to try to make sure that people got the assistance they needed.
And I had different assessments from different parts of the State Department from other agencies
that were involved, like USAID.
My job is to sort through them, which I did, draw some conclusions from that, and we put
out our report, and we found that Israel needed to do a better job on the humanitarian
assistance.
We've seen improvements since then.
It's still not sufficient.
Secretary Blinken, the man in the arena, thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
Good to be with you.
Thanks.
Wow.
So I guess they didn't.
Okay, got it. So I guess they, so I guess there is no follow-up. Got it. Okay. Here is a, let's
hear what Savannah Guthrie said to Anthony Blinken. He's doing the rounds right now after
this report came out in an effort to do some propaganda, to do some counter propaganda.
And right now in the Middle East, as you well know, a massive bombardment by Israel
and to the North and to Hezbollah territory. The Israeli theory here is escalate to
to de-escalate. In fact, just in essence hit Hezbollah so hard they're forced to the negotiating
table. But simply, does the U.S. support this escalation strategy by Israel?
Well, first, Israel has a real and legitimate problem because here's what happened. After
the horrific events of October 7th by Hamas in Israel in the south, Hezbollah from Lebanon
joined in and started firing rockets into Israel. People who lived in northern Israel
had to evacuate their homes.
Villages were destroyed, homes were destroyed,
70,000 Israelis were forced from their homes.
And Israel started firing back.
You had a tit for tat going back and forth.
People in Southern Lebanon had to leave their homes too.
And what everyone wants is to have a secure environment
in which people can simply return home.
Kids can go back to school.
That's what Israel's after.
So the best way to get that is not through war,
not through escalation.
It would be through a diplomatic agreement
that has forces pulled back from the border,
create a secure environment, people return home.
That's what we're driving toward,
because while there's a very legitimate issue here,
we don't think that war is the solution.
Well, fair enough, Israel is not listening to that.
In fact, the US Defense Secretary on Sunday
told his Israeli counterpart to give time
for diplomacy to work, and on Monday,
this Israeli bombardment was the most serious,
deadliest day in Lebanon since 2006.
So Israel is not listening to the US, why not?
Well, we're focused on now,
including with many partners here in New York,
at the UN General Assembly,
the Arab world, Europeans and others,
is a plan to de-escalate
and again, to make sure that people can go back
to their homes, but if there were to be.
Yeah, de-escalate through escalations.
De-escalation through escalation,
that's just how it goes.
Wait, isn't this what they say,
Hamas did on October 7th,
hits so hard they listen to you?
No, there is no justice.
Look, look, Israel good, Hamas bad,
Israel good, Palestinian bad,
Israel good, Lebanon bad. Israel good, Iran bad. That's it. Israel does it. It's good.
Anyone else that retaliates against it is bad. Okay. Understand that and you will understand
a lot of what this commentary revolves around. That's it. That's just simply it. Okay. There
is no moral consistency here. There is no intellectual curiosity here. That is it.
Okay. They are trying to goad any regional actor that is, uh, they're trying to goad
any regional actor to fucking retaliate so they can bring the United States into defend
Israel directly so they can have a just cause, a righteous cause for vengeance once again.
Because the October seven propaganda is no longer hitting as hard after you have fucking
annihilated an entire Palestinian population and displays millions of fucking civilians.
So obviously they need like another October 7 to just really fucking kick it into high gear.
I'm off poke the bear, which was a really weird move. Brother, I need you to understand something.
Okay. These are people who are trapped in an open air prison with no way out of it. Okay.
Okay, that's it.
Saying that Hamas simply poked the bear is so stupid
because you are basically behaving as though Israel itself
is not a Western-aligned nation
that requires steady support from the American government
and unlimited fucking resource
from the American government to prosecute its genocide.
Okay.
Um, and and is a force of is just like a look at it's not comprised of people. It's just like a natural
Uh, a naturally occurring phenomenon. It's not that's not correct
in the bear analogy
If israel is the bear, okay
That bear is already swiping at every fucking palestinian every goddamn day. It's sitting on top of the palestinians
It's swiping the Palestinians and the moment that a Palestinian pushes back you turn around and you say well
They poke the bear sorry
But it also comes with the recognition that Israel is an irrational actor in this process
So you're not making the argument that you you you think you're making that defense that is
Defensive of Israel's posture here
Okay, so yes, you're not wrong Israel is behaving in an irrational manner like a bear
When a bear kills humans, that bear must be put down.
When a bear engages in the taste of human flesh, that bear has to be put down.
Otherwise, it will strike humans again.
So there you have your analogy.
Acting like the Gaza coast got struck by the hurricane Israel.
Yes.
Ridiculous.
I don't think that's actually true in nature.
It absolutely is true in nature. What are you talking about?
Mr. President, you spoke at the UN General Assembly.
So you promoted to put the Israelis down?
My friend, I don't think you understand a single damn thing,
and I don't think you understand or are interested in understanding a single damn thing.
You're just here to purposefully misunderstand exactly what I'm saying
in an effort to just like get a silly little gotcha.
Israel is a state, okay? Israel is not a human being, nor is it actually a bear. It is comprised of human beings that are behaving in an irrational manner.
My advocacy is not the nuke Tel Aviv, if that's what you're trying to imply here, because guess what? I'm not like Israel, okay? I do value human rights.
rights. Unlike the nation state that is currently engaging in a genocide that
is an apartheid state on a good day that you are trying to defend, I do value
human rights. Assembly yesterday as the Middle East feels like a powder keg
Israel and Hamas war rages on now it seems to have expanded to Hezbollah
in the north. How real is an all out war in the Middle East and is a
ceasefire still in reach? And would you require all hostages to be
released alive in order to have a ceasefire? The answer is part of the ceasefire would
be the exchange of those hostages. Number one. Number two, an all-out war is possible, but
I think there's also the opportunity, or still in play, to have a settlement that can fundamentally
change the whole region. And look, one of the things that I found is there's, the
Arab world very much wants to have a settlement because they know what it does for them. They're
willing to make arrangements with Israel and alliances if Israel changes some policies.
And I, there's a, I've known beating in. Yeah. Israel seems to have expanded this war in the,
in the Gaza. Who could have foreseen this? Who could have seen this coming? Or not in the
in Lebanon, it just naturally occurred once again, everything that Israel does is a natural
occurrence.
Now for a long, long time, and I'm a very strong support of Israel, I make no bones about it.
I said years ago I was a Zionist, all the Zionist means is that there needs to be in
Israel.
And the fact is though that Bibi has a picture I signed for him when he was a young member
of the of the embassy here in the United States, an asset for American intelligence as well as
Israeli intelligence. So you understand. And he was eight by 10 picture. He asked me to sign
I'm a BB. I love it, but don't agree with the damn thing you say or do Joe. And I knew
and he's right. I don't agree with his position. There needs to be a two state solution
ultimately it needs to happen. There's a way to do it and then you have a possibility. I don't want
to exaggerate it, but a possibility if we can deal with a ceasefire. Why do you love them then?
That makes no sense, dude. When did your community become so pro-Islamic terrorist? The last year
really has changed your people. They think so black and white and hateful now, lol. October 7.
Well, I love you, mate, but why are you genuinely a defender of jihad? Your chat is
completely brain-rotted on this topic. It's so black and white to them because of your framing
and defense of jihad. They look at this as black and white when it's 2000 years of nuance. Damn,
this is a good speech. Do I like BB now? How is he on trans rights law? I don't know if you
understand this, but St. Matriarch, a community returner post October 7, I have been a firm
and committed defender of human rights for many, many years, many years prior to you
coming into this community. Okay? My analysis does not change due to some random social conditioning
that directly contradicts that when it comes to Israel. For example, you said this community
believes in black and white dynamics. The only black and white is at the top of the
hour when there's a three-minute outbreak. Okay? You're screwed if you are not subscribed,
If you're subscribed, however, you won't see the three minute
outbreak at the top of the hour.
I'm going to return back to this chatter and talk about some of
their opinions in a second.
Okay, because there's a lot of people like this.
There's a lot of people who believe these things where
they're like, oh dude, mate, you're supporting jihad.
Okay, here's the three minute outbreak now.
That's the real jihad, aka struggle against the three
minute outbreak is subscribing.
The black and white thinking in this circumstance comes from you my friend you automatically
assume this is like jihad which is I suspect not the true understanding of jihad but instead
simply a western understanding it means like you know Allah Akbar boom explosion that type
of shit right that is black and white you are the one who's engaging in black and white
understandings on this issue. Okay. You see Muslim and you're
conditioned into believing that like these are not people who
might have a genuine interest in emancipation. You see Muslim
and you see I'm afraid you see a Muslim person and you think
Oh, this person wants to destroy the Western world. I hope
that one day you can overcome these bigoted points of
you. I doubt it, but I hope you can overcome it one day. Now, the Gaza thing is a chronically
online tanky thing. Most Americans won't sacrifice their country for some Islamic jihadi solidarity.
Okay? It's sad. It's sad to see someone who seemingly has a lot of progressive opinions
because you can't be in this community and be a supporter since 2022 if you don't have
a lot of progressive opinions, but when it comes down to Israel, you automatically go
against all of those opinions. Even the usage of your word tanky means you're chronically
online. There are plenty of studies conducted on the matter in terms of like the way Americans
analyze the situation, and you're wrong actually. The broad majority of American society considers
what Israel is doing to be wrong. The broad majority of American society wants Israel
to stop Pummeling Gaza. Okay? It's a perfectly understandable desire from many people. They
see what is going on. They know right from wrong. That insult to injury, even selfish
Americans recognize that unlimited billions of dollars of weapons going to Israel so
they can continue on this bloody conquest is perhaps not the best idea. Okay? I'm
trying to be as nice as possible. I'm not. Zionists can get fucked too. I banter a lot
on Twitch with just the fuck with people. Whoa, you can't pick on me when I'm not paying
attention. When did your community become so pro-Islamic terrorist? It's a loaded
statement. A loaded statement that shows what your perspective is, what framework you're
operating on. That framework is automatically any kind of Muslim person that seeks to
to uphold their national sovereignty, i.e. Lebanon,
or any kind of Muslim person that says,
hey man, can you please stop killing us?
And asks over and over again for 78 years
and then retaliates in kind, is automatically in the wrong.
You are the one who is engaging in black
and white thinking here, okay?
And I wish that you wouldn't do that.
I don't know what's going on with your account.
I can't hear you, but I'll watch it later.
I'm actually genuinely interested in your defense of Islam.
I still, Loki, think you work for the Turkish CIA.
Yes, dude, because I'm a Muslim, right?
That's the reason, right?
I'm secretly working for the Turkish CIA.
I'm a dual agent here with a different interest in,
you know, blowing up American public discourse.
Dog come on
Like there is no world in which there is no world in which this level of fucking bigotry would be tolerated for anyone else
Okay, and I don't tolerate it for anyone else
You are masquerading
pure vile bigotry as
Intellectual thought because you have been hugboxed into believing that your perspective is the normal one
Okay? It's incredibly fucking stupid. And it also demonstrates a clear lack of knowledge.
The Turkish CIA is called Milistih Barat Teşkilatı, which is MIT. Okay? The Turkish CIA
was built by the American CIA. If I was in any way shape or form affiliated with a Turkish
espionage agency, I would be pro-Israel, as is the State Department's current position.
I would also be able to go back to Turkey freely, as I currently cannot. It's really weird
how much of the opinions that people have come from just anti-critical thinking,
just genuine reactionary bile. You're two hours late. To what? It's just crazy. It's just shocking.
Like, how much you have to put up with on a on a daily fucking basis if you're, you know, pro-Palestinian.
Don't forget you're Muslim on top of that. You know what I mean? Oh, I'm just trolling, mate.
Fun troll, dude. Can I ask a simple question? Would you rather live in a world dominated
by Ghazan Palestinian politics and societal structure or USA Israel politics and societal
structure? This is a silly question because the Ghazan Palestinian politics and societal
structure is one of emancipation purely. That's it. You do not know what a free Palestine
would look like. You have no understanding of what a free Palestine would look like.
Your only understanding is a Palestine that has been dominated completely by the United
States and Israel. Okay, this is also slight Islamophobia to just be like, uh, dude, you
want these barbaric Arabs to rule over you with their barbaric opinions. Many of these
nations that have been dominated by American imperialism, Western imperialism in general,
prior to said dominance actually had thriving societies. An example you can use is one
nation that wasn't dominated by American imperialism, or at least found itself to be a servile
role, found itself in a servile role. Turkey. Look at the development in Turkey versus the
development in countries like Iran. A lot of countries were not allowed to thrive deliberately.
Why did you tell CNN you maybe will vote for Kamala genocide? Not enough for you to hop off
the bandwagon jank won't let you vote third party your reactionary towards leftist third
party candidates i love the charlatans in the chat when i'm getting fucking when i'm getting
like the silliest islamophobic shit uh uh like islamophobic bile being spewed in my
direction as i'm in defense of palestine openly communicating what israel is doing is genocidal
there's still a guy who is like a fucking third party charlatan being like well your reaction
against third parties. Sorry, Iowan chatter. I'm sorry that I'm not sufficiently in the tank for Jill Stein. Okay, have fun with that. But I said the CNN pre DNC was my position at the time, and it's still my position.
Okay, that's even better. I'm from Texas. Okay. I love getting told by Texan white guys
in the midst of people calling me a fucking Islamist fundamentalist that like I'm not sufficiently
radical enough during my coverage of fucking, you know, the genocide, the ongoing genocide
and occupation of Palestine is Israel also is opening up a new flank of war in Lebanon.
you Texan guy for telling me what's what. Thank you for your revolutionary sentiment that you
expressed in a twitch chat. Like a chat a chatter literally just went oh why do you want global
jihad to be the rule of law as opposed to beautiful western civilization. And a Texan
chatter is like man you are not pro Jill Stein so I'm done with you. Okay. Thank you
for educating me, I will reconsider. It does not matter who is demanding emancipation for
the Palestinians. It doesn't matter what their domestic affairs look like. It does not matter.
The position holds for Ukraine as well. This is precisely the reason why, since day one,
since the unjustifiable occupation of Ukraine occurred, I have said that Ukraine is in the
right for demanding emancipation from Russian invasion. It doesn't matter if there were
Nazis in the Azab Italian, ultimately they are still in the right for this worthy cause.
Okay? No one deserves to be dominated by a larger military power. It is ridiculous.
And the same goes for the Palestinian population. Using the conditions of
colonial occupation settler colonial occupation to imply that these people are barbaric
is no different than saying black people are inferior in the united states of america it is
two different sides of the same white supremacist coin uh 1350 march uh black people are violent
and barbaric that's why they need to be put down by the police force excuse me they deserve it
that this is why there is a direct contradiction
among progressives who are progressive except for Palestine.
Okay?
You are, in terms of your foreign policy understanding,
applying the exact same standards
that white supremacists here in the United States of America
apply to black people and brown people,
people that are dominated by white supremacist structures.
And I think that direct contradiction
is exactly what creates a unique opportunity
for radicalization in the right direction, okay?
Because of that, so many people that leave the community
after October 7 because they're like,
this guy is fucking promoting jihadist terrorists,
then find themselves inevitably in the throes
of a community built by a guy who has written a manifesto
or saying the N word as a white guy.
That's why they find themselves
changing their entire worldview
because their association with real progressive politics
was simply limited.
It wasn't real.
It wasn't a real moral compass
that was guiding their decision-making.
It was simply a need to wanna be a part of a group,
an in-group, and feel loved and feel, you know,
feel like they are cool.
This is why reactionary ideology is very dangerous
because once you scratch that itch
And once you start plugging holes with bigotry,
instead of critical thinking,
you find yourself doing that in a lot of other areas.
It starts off with one issue that you have
a genuine unexamined fear over,
a fear that is not born out of like real issues,
but instead social conditioning for the most part.
It starts off with you thinking,
maybe the Venezuelan migrant gangs
have overtaken an apartment in Aurora, Colorado.
And then before you know it, you're like, yeah, maybe trans people are fucking weird, actually, and gross, and arch-eating, and simply just want to win, I don't know, the high school swim meet.
And that's why they're faking being trans.
And before you know it, you have adopted so many right-wing positions that you were a shell of what you once were.
In a lot of ways, we looked at and laughed at that one charm hole guy, right, the MAGA communist.
He just took a separate journey into reactionary thinking, but that, in many respects, is no
different than the random person who used to be a member of this community, but now
thinks I'm promoting Islamic fundamentalism and jihad.
It's no different.
You just found a different community, and you now also maintain reactionary points
of view.
Charm home.
I was looking for a more substantial answer than just, oh, war crimes, people die, governments
operate this way all over the world.
really is not unique in this manner this is related to the pager attacks by the way um yeah
that's just might as right by the way adivistico is a fucking awesome name for the argument that
you're presenting mate feed art thank you for the 100 community to get the subs by the way
my man i think i think that's uh i mean it's not a name that favors your position by the way
You are engaging in atavistic sentiment. Might as right. Everybody does war crimes, so who cares?
Is not exactly a position that I hold and is a position that I think should manifest in this
community. Okay? Slavery comes to mind as an immediate counter to this. Everyone
used to practice slavery. Let's just do slavery. Who cares? Might as right after all.
right? My previous comment was more directed towards you. That one was for a chatter. You
need to explain why the pager attacks should be considered a negative action by the Israeli
state. I admittedly know nothing of Hezbollah or what the background of this conflict is
outside of some minor research on Israel's past line. So October 7, obviously, pager
attacks did lead to civilian casualties, but is this not preferable to carpet bombing
and more indiscriminate attacks? Well, you don't even have to make that assessment
any longer because Israel also did engage in carpet bombings as of like, you know,
three days ago. But let's say we are in a world where that didn't happen and Israel simply did the
act of terror. I would urge you to try to understand or at least do a little bit of reading from the
United Nations Office of Human Rights report or any number of different prosecutors that
are prosecuted war crimes both successfully and are knowledgeable on the matter as to why
they consider the pager attacks to be an act of terror. Even Leon Panetta, the former CIA
director. Leon Panetta is not exactly an ally of mine in the way that he views the world,
but even Leon Panetta, the chief terrorist as the former director of the CIA, knows a terror
attack when he sees one, right? Infiltrating the logistics chain, the infiltrating the
logistics supply chain of a device that is more often than not utilized by a civilian population
that is in use inside of emergency rooms, inside of hospitals, okay, and booby trapping it is
multiple different war crimes, okay. Attacking enemy combatants that are not in combat would
also be a war crime. Attacking enemy combatants that are not in combat that are living inside
civilian populations, also a war crime. Booby trapping a civilian communications device is
is also a war crime. It's a litany of different war crimes added on to one another with the
intent and purpose of directly creating psychological harm upon a civilian population. That is terror.
Terrorism is technically a socio-political designation that we apply to non-state actors in an effort
to deny them their habeas corpus, right, their human rights laws, or their right to due
process, for example. But there is something behind the designation of terrorism. And if
you are looking for the dictionary designation of terrorism, what Israel did is a textbook
definition of that reality. Saying that, and this line of thinking also ultimately
opens you up to even further and further reactionary sentiment. For example, I'll give
you another example of this, okay? To say, well, Israel's terror attacks are more targeted
than carpet bombing Lebanon. Yes, they were more targeted, far less civilian casualties
occurred. It will cat not casualties because 3000 civilian casualties is more than the
carpet bombing that Israel engaged in, but far less civilian deaths occurred in this
supposedly targeted terror strike. Then what Israel did do right, which is carpet
bomb Lebanon, killing 500 plus. Now, this exact same principle could be applied to even carpet
bombing Lebanon because you could turn around and say, well, don't you think that carpet
bombing Lebanon is far more is far more targeted than nuking Lebanon? Israel has nukes. They
could technically use them on Lebanon. Don't you think that carpet bombing Lebanon is
is far more humane than just all out nuking Lebanon.
You understand what's wrong with this argument?
When you open yourself up to justify Israeli atrocities
against the sovereign state and its civilian population,
okay, and then use a far worse weapon
that they could potentially use in this conflict
as a way to justify this act of terror,
You open up the door to many far greater acts of terror.
As a matter of fact, Israel already
has done the far greater acts of terror
since the terrorism that occurred in terms
of the pager bombings.
I hope that this was sufficient, clear,
and coherent, concise.
I hope you understand my position now at Avistaco.
In Lebanon, that it can move into dealing with the West
Bank.
But we also have Gaza to deal with.
And so, but it's possible and I'm using every bit of energy I have with my team and you know from the defense department, you know it well to get this done.
There's a desire to see change in the region.
And peace.
And well, peace is exactly right.
But you know, one of the things is that I'll end this by saying there are certain reflection points in history.
happens in a very near term. Sets the course for the world for the next six or seven decades.
We're one of those places. We have a chance to really, for example, we put NATO together.
You know it well. Added two countries to NATO. Stop Putin. Now Trump says if he gets a
Damn this guy dude. I can't wait to write this guy in okay come November
He is the bold
Charismatic leadership that we need right now, okay?
He's the guy. He's my guy like that. He wants to get the hell out of NATO
I've been able to put together what they call the quad in the South Pacific in that area to
Increase them. We have a chance to reorder the world in a way that is not not
Shangri-La but it is real fundamental changes to reflect the changes that are
taking place now and look what's happening with with just what we're doing
with the with climate and so there's so many things that are so many
opportunities and I know you know I had those that cringing out of me because I
had an enderism years ago and the doctor was trying to explain me whether
whether it was generic or congenital.
And I said, I don't care, we'll just take care of it.
We're okay.
You looked at me and said, no, your problem is center.
I said, no, I said, you're congenital optimist.
I am, because there's nothing America's ever worked on.
I want to ask you.
We haven't gotten done.
That's true.
Nothing, yeah.
So in January, you're leaving Washington
after 50 years of public service.
How?
How?
You've been the best.
How do you want the Biden administration remembered?
And how do you want Joe Biden, the man, remembered?
You know, when I got elected when I was 29 years old,
he has to be 30 to be sworn in.
Everybody thought there must be some secret in Delaware.
Did I have some secret?
I said, yeah.
Have you figured out what's worth losing over?
Have you figured out what's worth losing over?
Because if you haven't figured that out,
you should be another business.
There's so many things that are worth losing over.
you've got to keep trying. And what I want to remember it for is being honest to what I've done
straight up. And I think I usually drive the rock crazy every morning. We meet at nine o'clock for
eight years. And then we end the day together. And all the same. And I say to them, Brock, remember
all politics is personal, including international, build relationships.
That finger point is so funny. Look at that.
including international. He thinks he's so dope. I mean people fucking glaze them too, so
thanks for answering. I just don't see much of a positive action by leaders on any side of the
conflict create a reasonable solution for Palestinians or Israelis. I was more concerned
if you found Hezbollah worth defending or if you were just coming down hard on the Israeli
government for more escalating actions in this conflict. I do not care about the
domestic affairs of Hezbollah nor do I care about their Islamist positions on certain issues.
I do believe that Hezbollah is just like Hamas, a resistance group that was created out of the real
need of purging Israel from the borders of Lebanon. This is how Hezbollah was created,
and over time it has formed into a cohesive, coherent, political movement with its own
political party that occupy space in the Lebanese parliament. This is precisely the reason why,
despite the international terrorist designation for Hezbollah, they also have civil governance
affairs in a way that is not dissimilar to Hamas, okay? No, that is not how they are made.
Yes, no, sorry. I should have said, Hezbollah was created out of unrelenting Jew hatred.
Okay? You're right. Hezbollah was created out of a need not against like, you know,
combating Western imperialism, but instead hating Jewish people. You answered my message a few days
ago on this. If Hezbollah is a terrorist group, then so are the ANC Black Panthers,
IRA and Viet Cong. Yes, they are, by the way. They were and they still are considered terror
groups by many. So it does not matter. Parism is simply a socio-political designation that the
Western powers utilize and deploy against those who go against the hierarchy that Western powers
are seeking to enforce. Hezbollah aren't good at action in Syria, their own domestic policy,
but they're the only ones who could do anything about Israel because the Lebanese armed forces
don't have the arms to fight Israel. Westerners don't want to think about why Hezbollah
as the biggest party in Lebanon. I mean, I don't, I would say they're the biggest party.
There's definitely a lot of haters in the Lebanese parliament against Hezbollah as
well.
But ultimately it does not matter. Look at the, the reasoning for why they exist and
look at their actions. Okay. In terms of resisting Israeli occupation, in terms of,
in terms of being yet another vector of pressure placed upon the Israeli government that
shows time and time again has shown the world and anyone with eyes to see that
they will not be fucking, they will never be,
they will never stand down, okay?
They will just not stand down
unless they are forced to stand down.
I looked it up on chat, GPT,
and apparently these Hezbollah guys were founded in 1982
that anything else happened that year.
Yeah, what happened?
You build relationships, it matters to build trust.
It matters, it matters, it matters.
And I just think the environment is such
that we can get so much done,
but we have to focus.
Nazis postures though, they were combating Judeo Bolsheviks terrorism.
Yeah, I mean, that's why we listen.
We aligned with the Nazis post World War two and never really stopped our
allegiance and also basically did a lot of Nazi shit all around the globe.
Sometimes directly working with neo-Nazis and right now the modern
iteration of that exact same ultra nationalist movement that ultra
internationalist fascist movement can be seen in Israel and we are defending it wholeheartedly.
We have to believe in ourselves again and that's what I like most about Kamala.
She believes in America.
She believes in our capacity.
The meeting is really withdrawal from Lebanon in 1982.
She believes in who we are and I don't know.
In terms of I'm less concerned about what my legacy is
Although I'm leaving you're not you're so stuck in there. I'm not going away
Because there's so many other things I want to do in terms of the Biden Institute of tenant foreign policy and
Biden Institute and Delaware on domestic policy to keep the things going that we started and I think we can get them
I have to tell you
You are thanks to you for coming and sitting with us.
Oh, come on.
You have been extraordinary for the country.
And we are so proud to have had you at this table more
than once, but to have you here at this table
as the president of the United States.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good.
After fifth.
OK, I'm just giving the rest of this shit.
Is the older vid from last year?
I keep seeing people calling the situation
Israel-Palestine complex, and it's actually not that complex.
The only complex thing about it is that it would inevitably end in an ethnic genocide
that would directly benefit the interests of the United States and the Middle East.
So instead of openly supporting genocide, a lot of American politicians are calling
it complex instead to confuse you.
But don't be confused, because think about it.
Israel has a membership status in the United Nations.
They have international diplomatic authority and the 10th most powerful army in the
world, whereas Palestine is internationally defined by several powerful organizations
as a terrorist group.
So it's illegal for them to have an army.
legal to provide them with armaments and all the weapons that they do have were smuggled into the
country. Not only that, but also it's virtually illegal to do trade, like unrestricted trade with
Palestine and Palestinians. Like there is no humanitarian aid that approaches Palestine
that does not get controlled by Israel. Israel controls any matter of aid that goes into Gaza.
The country illegally. They don't have an army. And so they're calling it a war on terrorism. Okay,
but did you know fun fact that there's no functioning definition internationally for
terrorism? That definition does not exist. So that basically makes it legal for Israel to go
and shoot whoever they want, not just armed militants, and then define those dead people
as terrorists later. It's not a war. A war requires two armies. It's not that complex.
Yeah, anyway, not post reactive Biden's view appearance. Let's see. Let's take a look at what the real truth tellers of America have to say that page. Oh, he was pressed by Leon Panetta's assertion that the pager attacks on Lebanon in a form of terrorism has.
This is the talk where Hezbollah, can I ask you about that, Pajers, the talk where Hezbollah members were the targets and they're literally in their hands, their pagers exploded.
Some see this as a technological coup and an ingenious move by Israel. Others, including John Brennan, former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, who you know while saying it's a form of terrorism and it went too far.
Where do you come down on it?
Look, we've got to start with a proposition that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization.
No, oh, so you can do terrorism to the terrorist organization.
We decided that they're terrorist organizations so we can do whatever we want.
But let's just fucking go in there, nuke it, be done with it for once.
You know what I mean?
Just we said they're the bad guys.
What the fuck do you want?
They're bad.
They're the bad guys is real good guys.
They're the bad guys.
You can do any amount of bad things to the bad guys that we've declared
are the bad guys.
Okay.
I was so designated by the United States and the reality is Israel left Southern Lebanon.
I've been occupying Southern Lebanon for 15 years.
Oh Israel left Southern Lebanon.
Dude.
Dude.
I didn't fucking realize like they're so gracious and so nice for leaving Southern Lebanon.
Man.
That's cool.
left in 2000. And all of these militia that existed there were supposed to put down their
weapons. Hezbollah didn't do it. And then repeated.
I wonder why, dude. I wonder why they didn't. I wonder why you just you're in the process.
First of all, they kicked them out. Secondly, you are quite literally describing why they
should not have put their weapons down. Why the fuck wouldn't why would any sovereign
nation put their goddamn weapons down when they're literally firmly planted next to a country
that is routinely striking everyone around it. Like no sovereign nation is supposed to
be forced to heal, okay? Especially after they successfully purged enemy combatants
from their fucking sovereign territory that they own, okay, that they belong to. That's
ridiculous. This makes no sense. Did Israel dismantle their military after leaving Lebanon?
Of course not, because they had to use it.
Exactly in the time after that. It attacked and posed a threat to people living in northern
Israel. So it's very legitimate that Israel do something about Hezbollah.
We like to think about it.
The only question is, what's the best way to do it?
And the tactics.
And what are the best tactics? And those are things that we're always discussing
with them, but right now our main challenge is preventing a broader war, one that actually
won't solve the challenge that Israel has.
And by the way, the Lebanon...
Yeah, it's like saying Ukraine has to put their guns down and Russia leaves, okay?
But it's not a position I would ever advocate for, okay?
NATO aside, it would be ridiculous to be like, all right, Ukraine, you can no longer
have a standing military because Russia left the country.
Like that would be ridiculous.
ridiculous fucking argument. Okay? Completely ridiculous argument. And if someone suggested
that, you'd be like, you're a fucking, what are you, Tim Poole? Like you're a fucking
Russian op. Okay?
What do these have? Because they want to get their people back to their homes in southern
Lebanon too. We want that too.
And fairness, you didn't answer whether or not you approved of this particular tactic.
Look, you're always looking at what someone is doing, trying to figure out what the
second or third order consequences maybe does it open up a whole new panda?
I like that. The immediate morality of like our ally doing a gross egregious act of terror
that former state department administrators have recognized as such is not even called the
question here. He's talking about the secondary consequences of like what if this happens to
us now like yeah that's the that's the worst aspect of this you think like the worst aspect
of this is that like maybe this might happen to us too and that's a big problem for me what
a psycho what a fucking psychopathic argument to make dude yeah it's just it's only bad
it's only bad when it's blowback it's good when we're blowing okay but when it blows
back on us then it's very bad ooh who could have thought speaking of blowback I will
have the blowback podcast boys on in 20 minutes doors box. It is something we're looking at.
Bucking just the depravity, dude. The immorality. Holy shit. It's, I mean, there's no defense.
I don't know. I don't know what else to say, dude. Rob Nader weeks ago, 45 American doctors and
nurses back from Gaza's horrors were the detailed footnoted plea to Joe Biden and Dr. Joe
Biden to stop the slaughter and get adequate humanitarian aid to 2 million dying, sick
and injured civilians, civilian Palestinians in Gaza. They received some media, but were totally
ignored by the Bidens and their genocidal, unconditional American taxpayer-funded backing
of the war criminal Netanyahu, who was despised by three out of four Israelis.
Biden talks a good game, but he walks a deadly trek in the annals of Holocaust histories across
the globe. Ralph Nader, they will never make me hate you, my goat. Any news about Lebanese
battalions. The way I look at it, it currently seems like one, Iran at UN is saying, all right,
is it time now? We have shown restraint time and time again. As Bula on the other hand is saying,
listen, come and take it. Come in, come into our borders, amass your troops and try to do a
ground invasion, see what the fuck happens. We have purged you from our ranks once,
we will do it again. So now, as is the case usually in the Middle Eastern conflict, okay,
it is entirely in the hands of Israel. If Israel chooses to amass ground troops and prep for a
military invasion of Lebanon, well, we'll see what happens, okay. That's it. I'm running in Nader.
I'm running in Biden for NATO. Had Ralph Nader thrown a support behind Al Gore in 2001,
million Iraqis would still be alive. Yeah, dude, Ralph Nader is the reason why Al Gore lost,
even though Al Gore literally won and the Republicans directly stole the election from him.
Yeah, I like that people still do that. Like, I like that people still will go back in time and
just be like, nah, using one million Iraqis to shit on the left is hilarious. Yeah,
this will never change. By the way, people are going to be saying that in 20 years about
Hillary, huh? I mean, they're already saying that and they will never stop saying that.
Would Al Gore have invaded the Middle East? I don't know, probably. I think that America's
endless thirst for baby blood in the global south is insatiable. I don't think that like
a singular force can stop that. Interception of large missile fire towards Tel Aviv was a big
thing also I think a missile hit spot on the invasion side it seems like it's
probably going to happen. Harzi Halevi said they're preparing for a ground
invasion and two more reservist brigades are being mobilized to the north same
with the 98th division which was responsible for so many horrors in Gaza
only two divisions left in Gaza. As far as do I think the US was sent troops
if there's a ground invasion I think US is still providing like material
support surveillance surveillance support to the Israeli military at the time and it is entirely
dependent on how badly the the diaper brigade gets their shit pushed in if they do invade
southern Lebanon but I do think that if they're getting their absolute shit blown up which is
so surprising once again like I don't know what the fuck they're thinking because even as a strategic
decision I am not a military commander or a military expert at all but I have looked at the history
I have seen the way that the Israeli military has been completely incompetent in even dealing
with its own concentration camp, its own open-air prison, okay?
If they cannot deal with Hamas in fucking Gaza,
how are they expected to after all of the casualties
that they incurred in fucking Gaza?
How are they supposed to take that military
that has already taken a fucking L in Gaza
and move them against a significantly better equipped,
significantly better organized and significantly more experienced standing military, like Hezbollah, it makes no sense.
There's a real risk of Israel killing US troops if they are deployed, even if the US is only doing evacuation, yes.
They will likely give air support where airstrikes and cruise missiles long before troops on the ground that American soldiers would apply a lot of political pressure on Biden and probably guarantee Trump the election.
I mean, yeah, I've been saying that, I've been saying that, I welcome, yes, that is precisely
what I'm saying.
I think that's also partially a calculation that Benjamin Netanyahu is making.
Hezbollah whips up a retaliation that is costly, Israel screams bloody murder, goes
into Lebanon, and then American troops are also there to defend Israeli troops.
Foreign policy is never the most prescient issue in elections until it's the only issue
that guides elections.
Two things that I have repeated from the beginning of October 7, in the beginning
of this bloody campaign that Israel is conducting. I said this is the most boring election cycle
when it was a rerun of 2020 with two old men running against one another, but it has the
capacity to become the most interesting election cycle. I was right. That already happened.
The second thing that I kept saying was foreign policy is never the top-of-mind issue in elections
until it's the only issue in American elections.
Benjamin Netanyahu has already openly communicated that he will not have any peace talks for
the next 40 days.
Something to consider.
Are the Democrats willing to give Trump the win for Netanyahu Israel?
Why are they like this?
Why your predictions are never good things?
I mean, because I'm looking at how America has operated
throughout history and how America continues to operate now
and nothing good is coming out of it.
President Biden appearing on the view
just about an hour ago,
he was directly asked about the attempts
on Donald Trump's life.
Here's how President Biden responded.
He still jokes about Paul Pelosi
nearly being beaten to death.
He thinks that's funny.
We'll see what happens, but remember,
historically the US was less adamant to veto UNSC calls for a ceasefire in Lebanon. Everyone knows
resolution 1701 that stopped the war in 2006, but there was also UNSC 425 in 1978 which forced
Israeli withdrawal after the first invasion. Who knows though, maybe this administration will be
more hawkish than Bush. This administration has been more hawkish than Bush. George W. Bush was a
fucking idiot and in all of that stupidity thought that he could like, uh, prop up, Bata,
as in the leadership structure for Palestinians and orchestrated a coup that coup failed,
literally leading to Hamas gaining complete control over Gaza.
But all of that means that he was still attempting in his own stupid fucking way,
some kind of exercise of sovereignty for the Palestinian population.
Ironic to say that because it was directly a violation of Palestinian sovereignty because he
didn't even listen to his own fucking people being like this is not the right time for elections.
If you do this election now we will lose and then they did. But if you were to,
If I were to analyze this, yes, I think that the Biden administration on Israel is literally more hawkish than the George W. Bush administration was on Israel.
Make no mistake. I'm not talking about like the global war on terror. I'm specifically talking about Palestine.
Okay. Nothing else. I think I still maintain the position that the Bush administration was a genuine blight on the entire world.
and it was, in my estimation, the actual crossing of the Rubicon moment for the final stage of American Empire.
George W. Bush and his actions, the actions of the Bush administration are far more consequential for American history
and the entire history of the world than even Donald Trump ever was.
George W. Bush and his administration is worse than the Trump administration.
This is the position that I've maintained throughout the four years of the Trump administration.
But as far as, and I still stand by that, okay, as you said once, we are living in the small
during ashes of Bush's choices.
I mean, yeah, you could even point the fucking Georgia and Ukraine currently and still find
a way to blame Georgia will be Bush for that.
He did that shit on his way out.
said that, however, having said that, however, I mean, the Bush administration was far more
consequential domestically, far more consequential in foreign policy, far more consequential
in destabilizing the entire fucking global south with its war on terror, destabilizing
Europe. Also, as they direct consequences of the war on terror, which every administration
after George W. Bush continued, okay, gladly continued, excitedly continued, even if
they ran against the war on terror narrative like Barack Obama did, you know, doing
the troops surge and greatly accelerating that. And so did Trump, obviously accelerating
Barack Obama's drone warfare by increasing the intensity of drone strikes by 400%, which
was ridiculous when compared to Barack Obama, who was considered the drone king. And Joe
Biden has also done the exact same thing and greatly escalated the sanctions regime
that Trump also really kicked in the high gear. Every step of the way, regardless of
whether uh hands were changed regardless of whether the party changed the foreign policy
bipartisan consensus never did and we just kept making things worse kept making things worse and
worse and worse okay and in terms of that uh it is shocking to admit this but yes I do think that
Joe Biden is more hawkish than virtually every other president in terms of uh Israel in terms of
of Gaza.
In 2021, he had a genuinely different attitude
telling Israel to rein it in
and stopping Israel's further escalations
with one singular phone call.
But post October 7th,
that restraint was nowhere to be found.
And that restraint is doing more damage
to American soft power capabilities
than Trump ever could have by being like,
I'm gonna do NATO, I'm gonna end NATO
or whatever the fuck Trump says.
Okay?
Let's see what else.
He hinted that the Second Amendment people
could do something against Hillary Clinton.
And he is calling for a televised military tribunal
for Liz Cheney.
These are his past statements and ideas.
He's blamed now, but now he's blaming rhetoric from you,
that you inspired these two assassination attempts.
After all of the calls for violence, you know, take them out and all the rest of it, you know what it is.
Don't you think that that is just unbelievable? And what do you say to that?
Well, I think he is the most unusual president.
Look, when I ran, I said I was running, one of the first major speeches I made was for Independence Hall about democracy.
At democracy to the stake.
And to restore the soul of this country.
Yes.
And look, Trump is, um...
Hmm.
Careful.
That's it.
Not a social redeeming value there.
No, you think right.
But here's the thing.
He really does not, does not believe in democracy
and the guardrails that our system has set up
for the use of power.
Charles, the news cycle today is about the assassination report in Iran threatening to
assassinate Trump.
And he goes on to say that Trump has no redeeming social value and doesn't believe in democracy.
President Biden has spent his entire time in the White House going off on 50 percent
of this country.
He hates Maga Republicans.
Let's be honest about this.
The vitriol...
Bro, this fit is so unacceptable.
It's the most unacceptable fit I've ever seen on Fox News, and that's saying something.
so bad that I didn't even notice the fucking ugly ass leather jacket that she's wearing
on top of this green dress, which would have been fine on its own. Okay. God damn, dude.
That is the most unacceptable thing. That is crazy, bro. Down to the fucking socks and
the shoes. Like you tried to do something there and you fucking literally failed spectacularly.
You do not have that shit on, dude.
Every time you open this mouth, Maggard Republicans are such an extreme threat that the vitriolic
anger and hatred from this president to half of this nation has been a full display.
Period.
That is the bottom line.
It's not even about President Trump.
He hates anyone who ever voted for President Trump, and that's scary.
That was Mr. Unity.
Emily?
That's right.
Mr. Unity, that continues after he said to put President Trump in the bull's eye.
This is my favorite thing that they do when they, uh, switch pot, they, they switch positions
and go from, they switch positions and go from being like Joe Biden is sleepy and stupid
and his brain is leaking out of his ear to like, he's so scary.
He's such a scary guy.
Look at how scary his, look at how scary his rhetoric is.
That's my favorite.
When Republicans do that fake crying shit, it's awesome.
I love it.
I wish it was real.
Joe Biden was a scary guy. You're absolutely and said we're going to send every conservative
to the minds, you know, the right Charles. And this is someone who's rhetoric is frankly
so below the office that he is privileged to hold. This is absolutely unacceptable.
I will await his apology and accountability, his accountability for this rhetoric on the
heels of two. I don't think anyone buys this no matter how much they repeat this.
Like, I don't think this is going outside of like the immediate MAGA circles. Like
I, I cannot in good conscience, even if someone is like leaning towards voting for Trump,
I don't ever foresee them going, yeah, it's really fucked up what Joe Biden is saying
about Donald Trump. He's a really violent guy. And that's the reason why Trump was assassinated.
Like even people, uh, almost assassinated. I think even people that, that are leaning
towards Trump probably like Trump for the the silly fucking things that Trump says that
are inherently violent you know what I mean this is piercing normie space at all yeah
this is not like not even a little bit by and is violent and abusive what are you talking
about yeah dude yeah he's violent and abusive towards his meat that he's punishing just
like I'm violent and abusive at the top of the hour. Okay. When there's a three minute
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podcast boys. And if you want that wall to wall covers first, we're going to talk about
Israel, Palestine, Lebanon. Uh, we'll, we'll be, we'll be getting into that. And then
I'm going to make them react to simple history life under the most evil communist regime,
Marouge because their latest show, their latest episode or the latest coverage revolves around
the Marouge in Cambodia. So let's, let's start that. Let's start that process now. Here's
the three minute outbreak. Boom. All right. Hello. Can you guys hear me? I can't hear you
So far god, it's like murder. We barely we barely have anyone
30 minutes into the interview because you just
You're getting better it's getting a little bit better was this
Crank it up higher Noah
What about this? Oh perfect. There you go
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now
Welcome back to the show
the blowback boys
They're in the building
Ready to let a rip you guys have you guys have a new you guys have a new series that just came out
Let me run the trailer for that actually you have that link
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Here is the situation
They were sending great numbers of troops into Cambodia preparing for what is called the Chet Offensive of that year
Some of the chatters are saying you guys gave Nixon and Kissinger too much aura
The whole aura of that video as was our last season's trailer is due to
Ben Clarkson who's the animator is a great illustrator. He has a new graphic novel out called Justice Warriors
So a lot of credit due to Ben also Dan Bechner great musician did that doom guitar you hear in the middle with with me and the the track I wrote for it so yeah we we like putting these little these little trailers together because we get to work with talented people like them so
to them. Yeah. No, it's, it's fantastic. As always, you guys done did it again. Um, I'll
admit I did text Noah the other day and I was like, when is the, when is the glottio Turkey
edition of the blowback podcast series coming? Cause you know, I would, I would love to
help out in any way I can on that. And also I think is like a perfect, it's a target
rich environment, you know, creating the terminology that we all love and use all the time, such
as deep state where it comes from originally, um, but yeah, we'll, we'll get to, uh, we'll
get to the Kimaru Nixson case, injure and everything else.
But obviously I wanted to start the conversation at least in the first half, uh, by talking
about what's going on in terms of American imperialism, American empire on its last
fucking stand with our most valuable, most important ally, the only moral country in the
world, the only democracy in the world with the most moral military, Israel.
As we're having this conversation, Israel obviously has expanded its conflict to Lebanon
beyond what it was already doing in this supposed tit for tat, tit for tat de-escalation
through escalation method that they were applying where they were responsible for
80% of the fucking munitions being deployed in the, you know, the Lebanese, uh, uh, Israeli
border skirmishes that were taking place. They obviously did an act of terror that even the
likes of Leon Panetta considered to be an active terror. And I feel like when you got,
it's like Osama bin Laden being like, that's terror dog. You know what I mean? It's like,
you know, like you are the guy, right? Like he knows what terror is, right? If he's saying
is there, I'm going to go along with what he's saying. Or maybe he's woke, I don't know,
and anti-Semitic, who knows. So after that, and the broad positive reception from Western
media and Western officials in general Israel was like, oh, hell yeah, let's keep doing
what we're doing. It doesn't seem like anyone's saying anyone's telling us don't do it.
And now they are resorting to carpet bombing southern Lebanon and doing the exact same,
you know, Hamas anti Hamas propaganda that they applied.
But this time they're, they just changed the what comes after the ha from Hamas to Hezbollah
in Lebanon.
I wanted to, I wanted to hear your guys analysis on that as the foremost experts
on American imperialism. I know you had a conversation with the Chapo boys on it as well. It's okay
if you repeat some of those talk points all good. But how are you guys enjoying the show
with Anthony Blinken defending Israel unconditionally?
How could it possibly be going better is what I ask myself every day. No, I mean I
And I think that the only thing that you left out is that it now seems that the headlines
in Reuters and the Associated Press are indications that Israel is escalating its air attacks
into a ground invasion.
They're calling up reserve battalions.
It still may not happen.
It still might.
It can go either way still, but it's not trending in a good direction, at least in
sense that it is just escalating. But Israel has never really successfully invaded Lebanon
without getting a bloody nose. So we'll see what happens there.
Yeah, 2006 was the last time, right? And that did not, that was a huge, I mean, it was humiliating.
Oh, that was a big, big, bad. You have to imagine that they're there as
unrestrained as they appear right now. They're going to have a much harder time going up
against Hezbollah than they have against Tomas and the piece of territory that they have so much
control over, this would be a different story I think. Now whether or not they are unhinged enough
at this point to consider that, I defer to you guys. Yeah, I mean, what is Zanz putting up on the
screen? Oh yeah, no, I was just showcasing the words Western media used to avoid saying
ground invasion, use of ground troops, ground defensive, ground maneuver. I will say, I
I think ground offensive is pretty fine.
I think that that is more or less what an invasion,
like it's offensive, you know, it's not mincing there.
I think the FT gets a pass from me on that one,
but the rest of them can go to hell.
The FT is not pretty good coverage on this stuff,
I think from early October in general,
much better than Wall Street Journal,
which is in the tank and has routinely spread
misinformation as a matter of fact,
misinformation that like, if I recall correctly,
the American State Department had to come out and clarify
in a brief act of unity from both the US State Department,
the Israeli government, the Israeli intelligence services,
and even Iran.
If you remember when they were like,
they all had to be like, yeah, we didn't know
October 7 was happening.
Like everybody had to be like, yeah, Iran did not play
a role in October 7 beyond like regular, you know,
regular logistical support and training to militants.
I mean, there is now, I think, a quality of,
I guess, the media at this stage of it is kind of,
it's sort of hard, I think, to communicate
why stuff is going on without just sort of,
like I've not read a story yet in a mainstream paper
that doesn't really kind of foreground
that like Israel is choosing to escalate.
Like the facts of this situation
are a lot harder to propagandize around I think
than like the post-October 7th what stuff was.
Like rallying around the flag in this situation
is like much more tortured and much less effective
when Israel's going to war with like, you know,
like a somewhat neutral country, you know,
a neutral country, truly, you know, I mean, and,
but is now like, yeah,
is somehow things that can have that front
And the other one, it all doesn't really add up to me,
truthfully, as a coherent set of operations.
Yeah.
So the question I have, I guess,
that many people also have,
and I wanna hear a different perspective on this,
is like, what the fuck is Israel thinking?
Because as you also correctly pointed out,
they've had an incredibly hard time
dealing with an aesthetic resistance force
that is basically in captured territory
that is under permanent Israeli master valence and occupation in Gaza.
They can't deal with like 17 to like 20 year olds wearing Adidas track suits,
running up to their fucking 30 million dollar Markov tanks and lobbing grenades
directly into it. How the fuck are they expected to deal with an enemy with a
standing military that is combat trained,
that is far better equipped,
that is in an entirely sovereign state that has geared up as defenses against
potential Israeli invasion since the last two times that they successfully were able to withstand Israeli invasion.
Noah has a lot more insight into the nitty gritty. I think we talked about this on Chapo the other day.
Are you just saying that because I'm Jewish, right?
Yeah, that's what I was insinuating.
Okay, I just wanted to be clear. I just wanted to be on the level here.
out of the way.
No, I mean, I follow this stuff.
But we sort of had a little back and forth the other day
wondering about this very question.
I mean, I was sort of pointing out for my part
that I think there's an obvious problem at this point
with saying that Israel is doing all of this
as an obedient client state of the US, and only that.
I don't think that the U.S. has a particular interest, as we're seeing from every new hapless
cable or dispatch that the State Department puts out saying, we don't think it would
be particularly constructive for them to go into Lebanon.
I don't think that's K-fabe.
I think the U.S. is essentially handcuffed at this moment to a rogue state that it
has shrinking influence with and has had shrinking influence with over the years
as a so-called client-patron dynamic. Israel is operating, unlike the empire, which wants
goods to flow and commodities to ultimately go back and forth all over the world, which
is why the Houthis piss us off so much because they've been blocking some of that. Israel
has a totally different logic, I think, at this point, which is that of a lunatic
state in which, as you put it, know of the other day, the inmates are kind of taking
over the asylum and the colder logic of past years, which isn't to justify any of Israel's
policies, it was still a relatively cold and considered logic of how to occupy and exploit
and ultimately probably starve out this place, the occupied territories.
He had those shin bet guys, the sort of old guard that would say in the documentary
like the gatekeepers where they talk to a bunch of shin bet chiefs or former shin bed
chiefs that say, yeah, we're basically fascist now.
That's how it is.
We'll see how that works out.
I think now is Noah can obviously speak to follow the kind of, you know, got more of
these stories that are in the news day in and day out.
It seems like now this is an ethno state that has fully gone out of control and really
has no choice in its own logic but to escalate, but to throw the war further on and to, you
know, like other states that had a attack dog approach toward their idea of greater
Germany or greater Serbia and now greater Israel, they have no choice but to expand.
So that's to just outline a little bit the difference between what I can detect in Israel's
calculus and the calculus of its benefactor of the United States.
i don't know what do you think now i mean we talked about a few days ago
yeah i mean the only other thing i would really add to that because i think you
kind of hit all the major points the only thing i would add is that
there is something in you know it like a lot of what israel and the israeli
leadership is doing
is because of
uh... strong political incentives
that are domestic in israel you know much in the same way that when you
were like why did the american military of the american political
leadership makes such a puzzling decision in Iraq or Afghanistan at these various points.
It's often because they're driven by domestic political considerations and Israel is no different.
In this case, the Netanyahu government since October 7th, they had a steep fall in popularity
but then they've only gradually gotten more popular since.
The way in which that kind of escalation has sort of nourished them, it's kind
of bailed them out of dealing with the problems that people were initially at first blushed
on October 7th, more aware of than at any point since.
Because now, what the war with Hezbollah kind of staves off is what in a group, so the Israeli
central bank, I forget what it's called, it may just be called that, an economist
there recently published an report stating that like, look, if you sort of buy the
general line that they're going to try to wind down the general level of conflict over
the next year, during that time or at the end of it, Israel is going to have to engage
in a program of radical austerity or there is going to be a financial crisis.
In fact, the financial crisis may be unavoidable without some sort of massive stabilization.
I think that, truthfully, I do think that there is the political appetite in the
US government to help bail out Israel down the line.
like, you know, when we are not, you know, like that's a political problem that these
guys don't want to get to. And it satisfies this sort of Brendan laid out, like what I
would sort of think of are like these, the bigger ideological priors that they have
that kind of soup them up and get them excited and sort of legitimate their unbelievably
stupid and short sighted decision to, you know, escalate now possibly to the point
of a ground invasion with Lebanon, something that again, historically does not go well
for Israel and it's not because like you know they didn't find they didn't hit like you know
up up down down square circle triangle quick enough it's like it's not a battle it's not
a fight that favors them. Brennan you're a little blurry. Well yeah I'm trying to come back.
Here we go. There he is. Beautiful face. Yeah um I think I was listening to the
the New York Times daily report from that one, um, like Israeli surveillance reporter, like
the Israeli security national security reporter, uh, that they had on the daily, uh, that, that
talked about like the, um, increasing popularity that like the ultra nationalist far right
elements within Israeli society have had over the past like 30 years. It was definitely
a little bit of, of, uh, it was definitely a little bit of like, Oh no, it's just
like these guys are basically now running the country. And there's truth to that. The inmates
are running the asylum and I do routinely think about like the gravest threat to the Zionist
operation being that all the academics and all the artists that make the shittiest EDM you've
ever heard of, inevitably leaving Israel because they just no longer consider, they no longer
consider Israel to be a truly secure nation. The veil of security was obviously damaged
greatly in October 7 Israel retaliated in incredibly violent ways by conducting its genocidal affairs.
But beyond that ever since then, the Iron Dome has failed time and time again, including with
Houthi loitering munitions and also a hypersonic missile coming directly from Ansar Allah.
This constitutes a genuine threat to like normal Israeli society where they can no longer operate
under the veneer of like, we are a Western nation where nothing bad will happen to you and we
We can be as violent as we want to everyone
without any sort of repercussions
to normal Israeli society.
Like you could still go to the beach in Tel Aviv and party
as we are conducting our genocide mere miles away.
And I think that that constitutes a grave threat
because it will inevitably turn Israel
into a nation that is entirely comprised
of messianic inbred ultra orthodox psychopaths with a nuclear arsenal and, and, and further
push them away as a pariah state. Obviously that is terrifying for the future of the world.
Right. But it's also terrifying for the Zionist project in general. And I think that's why
a lot of these like shin bet guys regularly try to like speak out against that because
They also want the maintenance of the apartheid to continue to a certain degree that is manageable
in a way that does not disrupt the regular order of business.
And while, you know, they have recognized that they're slowly losing their group on power,
the thing that comes to mind, obviously, like the former Shembed official that told Benjamin Ninyahu,
if you consistently, if you continue these attacks on the West Bank,
bank like this is going to become an unmanageable situation an October 7th
style attack might happen but this was way before October 7 and Benjamin Netanyahu's
retaliation to that was your woke you've been captured by woke interests and
and you know that's what happens when you let a guy from Philadelphia be your
fucking leader but big L on that one or Israel well well we talked about this
This is the other day too, you know, in regard to America, there's a thesis from back in
the day called the Yankee versus the cowboy.
And I think you could apply that analysis to Israel as much as anywhere else, including
America where you have divides in the ruling class.
There are those Israelis in power who we were just describing who want to maintain
their hegemony in the area.
some day they hope Israel could take over more of the land officially, but for now it's okay to
maintain it. Similar to the American during the Cold War and beyond, the American Eastern establishment
who thought, let's keep Europe stable, let's run NATO, let's do containment, and we'll get there.
Versus the frontier types, the Yahoos, the cowboys who in the American example would be,
you know, your, you know, your pro-Vietnam China lobby types who wanted to take the Cold War into
Asia where they thought it was really going to cook and pop off, not worry about Europe, who they
viewed as a bunch of, you know, snobbish leeches of America. And in Israel, the example would be
exactly the crowd we've been talking about, the so-called inmates taking over the asylum who
want the frontier to keep going. The manifest desks need to keep going, not in a 50-year
period, not in a hundred year period, but right now, today and tomorrow.
And that's who, as Noah was pointing out, is that's who's taking over.
And that's not necessarily a good thing for their fellow Zionists, because it's short-sighted,
it's unstrategic, and while it's horribly violent and a terrible thing for everyone
else as well, it's ultimately kind of a death drive and suicidal.
So the question will be, if they exhaust themselves before they take everyone else out with them,
you've got to imagine, not to get too grim, but you've got to imagine the U.S. at some
points are saying, let's say we do start to cut them off, are they going to start
talking about tactical nukes or this or that, or are they crazy enough to make that
threat and then actually press the button?
That's going to keep people up in the State Department in a way that is a bit
a hostage situation of its own. So I think that is the kind of dichotomy that we're seeing right now
as far as the different groups trying to direct Israel's destiny at the expense of everyone else.
Yeah, also to further, I mean to further prove the point that you're making, we saw this
divergence within the State Department with those who want to maintain American
hegemonic power status early on with calls for restraint towards Israel because they knew what
Israel was going to do against those who were unconditional and undying Zionists themselves
who truly believe that Israel must not be restrained and they should actually blow off
a little bit of steam or even, like you said, manifest destiny in the way that they wanted
to. And that's why you saw like State Department officials resign. And that's why you are now
getting reports from ProPublica about even fucking USAID and and other State Department
agencies creating memos all the way back. I believe in April and sending it to Anthony
Blinken to be like, Hey, Israel is actually in direct contribution with American laws,
the lihi law to be to be exact. No, we should be fair here. We should be really fair because
similar memos were drafted for when the State Department approved the arming of Saudi Arabia
in their campaign against the Houthis. Yes. So, Hassan, Brendan, we cannot pick on the only
Jewish state to get arms in contravention of war crime statutes and laws. Yes. And that was
of your are very much in support of the Saudi Kingdom continuous watching your tropes and
watching your tropes. Thank you. Thank you for, thank you for keeping me honest. Yes.
Absolutely, man. It's fucking crazy. Okay, I'll do one. I'll do one back to you. Just
like that. I'll do one back to you. It seems quite Islamophobic that you are coming
after the Muslim nation of Saudi Arabia. That's where Mecca is. Okay. And Medina. You understand
and Medina and Medina as well. And you coming after the Muslim nation is quite Islamophobic.
Someone take a pot shot at Ireland or something so I can get in here and have
I don't have it.
Oh, now the potato farmer speaks up. Oh boy.
Well, there you go. The Irish phobia is alive and well, folks.
It's completely permissible. You could just say that and get away with it.
It's fucked up.
It is.
But, okay, all jokes aside.
One thing I do want to add on the point of how Israel's getting more radical
and like what is its interest or whatever. A lot of it is that like Israel is already like,
it has been on sort of like years of decline in the way that like a lot of the West has probably.
Income inequality is widened. The economic, you know, it's basically like, like there's like,
Poland is doing good, I guess, but like pretty much everyone else has been doing pretty bad.
although America recovered. Yeah right seriously man like for you know next thing
you know we're gonna be asking them to screw in our light bulbs in any event. You
know like this so Israel is not like immune from like this secular change
like bad change in condition in the financial and economic health of the
country and you know it's also not really like it's quite clearly losing
its edge as like an offensive military power. They can do a lot of this, you know, they
can blow up a Nia, they can do the pager attack, they have, they clearly are willing to do
these things as well. But like, you know, there, there is like, it's not just crazies
pulling the trigger on those things. I think that the crazies are gaining currency
because they're being led in from the center in a sense, you know, I mean, like, look,
like the emergency powers essentially that Hitler had ready made for him when
he assumed power
were there because gruning
you know i had them
but you know more or less have them as part of like in the you know like
quite a bit of the weimar government
uh... adult again like i i don't want to be in the habit of making like one
to one
history of nazi germany history of israel comparisons but like
well that one seems to be hard not to
i mean yeah especially among many other points of comparison
Yeah. Well, that's why I was the other one. Go ahead, Brandon. Sorry. I'm just gonna say,
I mean, I mean, that's another way that you can look at a, you know, like a dichotomy is that
Israel has always done shenanigans like this blowing up on a bunch of people assassinations of
civilians. They've done that in the past. I mean, they spy on Americans and, you know, the
liberty and all of that. That's a long history of all this. But they've always been very,
their perception in the world, particularly within America, has allowed those rogue practices
to be juxtaposed with a very well-run PR machine in which they run a tight ship and they have
good message discipline and they know their way around messaging and public relations.
And that whole side of it, which has allowed the rogue acts and the assassinations and wars
and all that, to have the sheen to them that Americans as an important audience swallow
very easily.
But now, I don't know what, Noah, Zahn, you could maybe tell me, but I don't know what's
happened, but they have lost that polished PR machine.
They are now dealing every day with images and video, not only of politicians saying grotesque
things and rape advocates being the forest gumps that get to go on TV and be mascots
essentially on talk shows and stuff like that, but also videos from the battlefield, if
you want to call it that, in which the soldiers are doing war crimes in plain view.
is not. Well, I'll actually add to that and then kick it to Hassan because I think there's
like a question we can put to him there on that which is that like, you know, I, because
I agree with Brendan, like, you know, Abba Eben who was sort of like the OG effective Anglo
like language Israel diplomat of, you know, my parents generation who was, you know,
very charming, had, you know, very, very good for television and so on. He's, you
like Elon Levy pales in comparison to somebody like him and so on, that is like a thing of the past.
I think now that the reason that they don't give a shit about that deluge of imagery and how horrible their advocates are now,
the sort of loomer-ification of all of designers or whatever, I think that it's because it's, you know,
follows like it fits like broad patterns of political polarization, you know, along gender,
along generational lines, especially class, etc. Like it's becoming, you know, it's mapping
on to, you know, broadly speaking, like the left-right dichotomy, not everything falls,
you know, like not all parts of it, but it does seem to me like it conforms to that
like pretty epically. That said, it's on like it does seem though that like there
There are a bunch of influencers or people like, oh yeah, like that guy, Ethan Klein.
He shared a screenshot of a screenshot of a screenshot of something I said, which I love
when that happens.
But he's like somebody who's like, okay, clearly he has an audience of people on the
internet or whatever, but he's also a very big pro Israel moron.
And like clearly, like there is like some like novel development in like, you know, how certain
people are like effective pro-Israel advocates now representing that viewpoint from like a
younger generation.
But like, you know, who, who, who are like achieving something even if they don't have
the finesse of like, you know, earlier folks or whatever.
I don't think even Klein's audience is as as even remotely seemingly pro-Israel as
he is, that's my assessment, which is why he's constantly duking out with his own audience
or with regular frequency on this issue. But as far as like what has changed, I think a
couple of things like obviously a pivotal point was 2021 when a lot of the NGOs that I normally
am somewhat critical of openly declared Israel to be an apartheid, which took away like
massive cynical deployment of anti-Semitism whenever you brought this thing up, right?
Because you could be like, well, these are institutions that are formative in the rule-based
international order, and they are all also correctly calling Israel an apartheid regime.
And I think ever since then, with also social media, and the fact that people can like
actually humanize Palestinians and directly hear from them, the dynamic has changed quite
a bit because of that democratization of information spreading and not being completely
captive to mainstream outlets that will repeat the State Department line unconditionally and
vociferously. A lot of people have been able to make up their own minds about what they
see as like truly a bloody and barbaric affair. I think that is also, that plays
a major role, but beyond that, I think that, uh, the, the complacency that Israel has with,
uh, many, many years of like, uh, complete, like unconditional support that Israel gets
from mainstream media has, I think it caused them to, to miss a step a little bit. Like,
you're now seeing, uh, operations being launched online, you every now and then you'll see
like a, you know, pro trans black former vet Christian come out and be like, uh, y'all
not going to do this right now with, uh, you know, the, what was it? I think cranky Nelson
had the tweet. I got to fucking pull it up real quick to show you, but it was like,
it was such a ridiculous and so obviously like, uh, like a shitty ass. Like this shit
makes like Russian attempts look brilliant in comparison here. This is the one I'm
or these like the like water melon. Oh yeah, water melon.
Isis. Yeah, yeah. Hating bullshit again. Buck these terrorists want to be nail emoji, nail
emoji, nail emoji. And it's just like when you look at the account is like black trans
lives at truly be truly free. Trans pride flag black trans pride worldwide. Jesus is
the way and the truth veteran.
I don't even know what the APRN is there.
Is that a nurse thing?
What's on what is your chat say?
What's the APRN MSN me?
I have no idea veteran to earn respect.
You must learn respect joined May, 2024.
It's like, like come on.
And it's like,
I wanna go to the profile picture.
Yeah.
It's a check.
It's a high.
It's yeah, it's like it's filled in.
It's like it's like it's like it's incompletely filled in.
Yeah, look at the Israeli flag shirt that she's wearing.
Also, look at how like it's like all the like the background
it looks like you're like it like drunk
in Tunis it looks like.
Yeah.
So, I mean, this is this right here,
like if this is your attempt of, you know,
causing some kind of instability
amongst the normal groups that are like advocates
for pro advocates for Palestinian emancipation.
Like this is a horrifyingly bad job.
Like you are not carrying out a good operation here at all.
Right?
And there's many such examples of this.
Like, and I think it's, it's a,
it comes from a place of complacency.
In many respects, I think like Israel saw what happened
to apartheid South Africa and learned all the lessons
of what not to do.
And greatly increased it's like,
greatly increased it's, it's operations
ensuring that America always maintain a positive attitude towards Israel, but I think they got a little too comfortable in that and
Didn't recognize that like in in the new age of information with the internet
You can't really get away with all the all the bloodlust no matter how hard, you know, no matter how you try I
Agree with that and I'd also add it like they saying all stuff like definitely changed was the like
there
Like there is like a story of like, you know downward a linear level of like appreciation and identity that like the average like
American has with the state of Israel and you could sort of think of it as like the apex was when Paul Newman starred in the movie Exodus
in like the 1950s or 60s and then
But you know ever since then it's been sort of like progressively downhill as people see like Israel's true nature revealed time and time and time again
You know and it's obviously uneven but that in like I think there may have actually been a pro-israel keek in the 1980s
But like broadly speaking when we look at like now the history like through the 2020s
we see that it's this big downhill thing and
You know there is like you can't you know you can't run that like it's it's
It's it's coming it was a change
You know bound up in generations and that was always gonna make this kind of level of advocacy really difficult
The next time in fact, you know, by the way like Israel's committed an unprecedented slaughter
And they've committed this unprecedented slaughter at a time when like everybody has a fucking camera attached to themselves
You know, you know, it's there is just like a this is what it means to be
Pro-Israel in 2024 and there was no amount of spin or nothing that like, you know in the discourse
Sub-pursuant to Israeli actions
That is, you know, really, you know could be that different because the actions are now like it's it's the whole lens the whole thing is the whole landscape is different
It's all done change. I'll give you a domestic example for those in the audience to understand a little bit better
I often talk about the Republican Party refusing to fucking run a normal campaign and their complete inability to do so
Right they have hug box themselves in do believing that like everybody cares about only trans people
And they always want to think about like children's genitals, right?
And that kind of trans panic and crime panic narratives actually cost them the midterm election successes that they were supposed to get
Under a Biden administration where Americans were experiencing negative real wage growth like at that time
It should have been the Republican Party wiping the fucking table
But they got so comfortable and so insane
Do they put up like Doug Mastriano? For example, like a QAnon guy as the governor of fucking Pennsylvania
They brought forward Herschel Walker and a lot of people single out Donald Trump
But I think this is the entire Republican Party
so hyper focused on
Culture war narratives that they they end up coming across is truly repulsive to like normal people that aren't as invested in those narratives
And I think a similar thing can be said about Israel in the sense that like
like they legitimately think everybody thinks in the way that they do all the way from the
most quote unquote woke liberal Zionist down to the the settler in Hebron spitting on the
fucking nuns Israeli society has been hugged boxed and echo chambered into thinking that
like when they say oh we are going to kill all their children and when like an American
hits the translate from Hebrew button, they're going to look at that and go, yeah, no, they're
doing the right thing. I'm on board. I'm invested. I'm just as invested in this genocidal project
as you are. They don't, they think it's weird. There's also like, obviously resilient underlying
anti-Semitism at play here as well, both from the ultra nationalist and pro-Israel contingency
like the evangelical Christians who will be like, Israel must be defended because they're
God's chosen sons and also while simultaneously the same breath repeat things like they have
horns and tails and are the magic money people down to well it's I mean it's a classic case of
like how like if they're like all these like correct Jews who are like these perfected little
humans who live over there yeah well you know we've got all these surplus you know Jews who
as Trump said are are going to be the reason he loses the election um yeah there's nothing I
I feel there's nothing that makes me feel more secure than like a really,
really, really like pro-Israel guy in Kentucky who didn't meet a Jewish person
until he was 28.
Yeah. Um, but beyond that, uh, beyond that,
it seems like a underlying like Felix brought up this point when he was on
the broadcast and I completely agree with him. Like,
let's say you fucking grew up in like Omaha, Nebraska.
You've never met a Jewish person ever,
But you have consistently heard the narrative in normal conversations, right?
Because a lot of people do, like, secretly believe this shit, where they're like,
you know, there are a lot of wealthy Jews in media and in positions of power,
and there's not a lot of Jews in general. Like, when you have that underlying attitude,
and then you see what's going on, okay, and then you see, like, the entirety of Congress
get up and deliver a standing ovation to Benjamin Nennyahu as he's like talking about how there are
college campus terrorists out there that are backed by Hamas, like what are you supposed to think?
You know what I mean? Like this is how anti-Semitism festers and grows, like real anti-Semitism,
not ADL shit that I'm talking about. Like the old, I mean, as of 10 or 15 years ago,
So I remember there was the what, the Meersheimer-Waltz book, the lobby, right, the Israel lobby.
Yeah, that was controversial.
Yeah, that was controversial.
That's what got you really in trouble back then was to insinuate that this was a well-organized political movement within the United States working on behalf of a country that is literally in its political committee's name.
Um, but if you start if you start and of course people can go overboard with that and and what they really mean is is the
Is is is the secret lizard cabal or whatever and you know, we all know what we think of that but to deny
by a clinical treatment
Uh, that you would give the china lobby the cuba lobby any other one of these organized political movements for the benefit of of another country
Uh within america to make sure it continues to get support
And you you try to drum that out of the of of the
Like polite discourse or reasonable discourse you try to completely bury that yeah, and then and yahoo is up and gets non-stop
applause and Israel gets blank checks do whatever it wants as you said it's on people are going to
actually resort to actual anti-scent
anti-semitic theories and and the galaxy of websites that are dealing in crackpot nonsense instead of looking at
perhaps unpleasant but nasty realities in the American Israeli relationship that
are worth discussing and that can be looked at and written about and debated
and I remember it was just like you you could get in real trouble back then if
you even talked about APEC as a factor at all I was young I don't see it you
know we're gonna yell that by the Democratic Party as well as like the
entire media apparatus. We're saying it's all about the Benjamins, baby. And they're like,
what do you mean Benjamin? Like, it's a Jewish name or whatever the fuck they were saying at the
time. Or they're saying, Oh, you mean money Jews are puppeteering the American government? It's
like, no, she's talking about fucking APAC. Like it's very obvious she's talking about lobbying.
Okay, which gives the money not because it has any effect, but because they just love politicians.
Yeah, yeah, it's just it's just so it's so stupid to like not realize that
one marrying Israel's actions to Judaism as a defensive posture is unironically going to
cause people to look at that and go well I have no critical thinking skills but these guys are
saying they're doing it for Judaism and those who are defending the guys that are saying
they're doing it for Judaism are also saying you're anti-Semitic. So I guess this is something that
Jews want universally. And that's why like you brought up the Trump anti-Semitism conference
earlier. I thought it was very instructive on both what the media chose to cover from that
conference and what they chose to omit. Donald Trump very clearly in that conference said,
I gave you Golan Heights. You didn't even ask for it. And I gave it to you
because you gave me money and he named Sheldon and Miriam Adelson in that conference.
And then he also spoke about like, um, he also spoke about this idea that like,
again, this false notion that like all Jews as a monolithic force only care about Israel,
because he kept repeating that. He was like, I gave you all the shit that you want. What
more do you offer me? What the fuck aren't you voting for me? What's wrong with you?
That was the main through line there and if you are on a Monday defending the notion that all Jews care about Israel
You're not going to be able to cover that with the with the uh, you know with the adequate tools necessary to be like no
That's anti-semitic
It's not just anti-semitic when a nazi says it it's anti-semitic when those who are pro-israel are saying that as well
Even if they're cynically using it as a defensive shield
Now, and now with the hold, I haven't followed it closely, but the slander from CNN, Dana
Bash and Jake Tapper, I think much like the Israeli charm offensive is not what it used
to be.
Americans who probably like American media figures who probably would have gotten away
with something like this not so long ago.
It seems like now there is a genuine pushback that makes it to their desk, where they have
to weasel out of it, as I believe Basch did yesterday.
She didn't issue a correction, which is what she, the word she should have used, but she
issued a clarification, I think she said, about Rashida Tlaib and her remarks that
they tried to paint as anti-Semitic.
And again, it wasn't so long ago that would have been the end of it, but people just
aren't buying that anymore.
And that's a big problem, obviously, to every single one.
That one was like a little bit of like a sort of like perfect storm of like they like they made up a lie the guy who
Like they made up this to me are about to leave the guy who was the interviewer who was supposedly a part of it
Like declaimed it immediately and they still ran with it like that one was
Like a full like that was to me a sort of illustration of like how they have to bend over backwards to give it to their natural
affinities
in ways that they didn't, you know, it used to be a little bit more subtle or it was, you know, I mean I
mean now even they I'm kind of surprised at the very least that like they even got an apology out of it even from
Jonathan Greenblatt, but I guess that one really was that egregious
One other thing that also strikes me with this stuff is that the like real anti-Semitism
To me like the idea of like people who like want to like, you know
like who dislike Jews and dislike what they perceive to be Jewish influence and stuff
Like I do
It does sort of strike me that there is like a now like you know
The JD van stuff has also felt like a certain degree like oh like well those people now do have like a home as part of like the latent
Republican Party and so as things deteriorate
In the Middle East like now those people have a platform in a soapbox so much to stand that they didn't before
before, you know, perfectly conveniently timed for like the single most anti-semitic thing
that's ever about to happen outside of the Holocaust.
I guess the final question before we move on to the Khmer Rouge and your latest series
is the question that I hear all the time and I give answers to all the time, which
is like why is America so committed to Israel? Sorry. Why is America so committed to Israel?
What are your opinions on it? This is sort of what kicked off our discussion the other day on
Chapo is, you know, you probably discussed this on your show many times. I mean, you have a period
of history where America really wasn't, did not have this special relationship at all. I don't
I don't know if you would disagree, Noah, but I mean, we really cement it with Kissinger and Nixon, funnily enough,
our most anti-Semitic president on record, at least.
Oh yeah, he's like, like, Israel's basically fate kind of hangs in the balance in the Yom Kippur War,
and it really rides on whether or not, you know, whether or not America's going to rearm Israel,
and Kissinger says, do it, and they do it, and, you know, and forever after, you know, we were bound together.
It was a cold war. It was like many, if not all factors of American foreign policy at that moment. It was a cold war maneuver, given that the Arab states were all predisposed to either live with or be friendly with the Soviet bloc.
block. But at any rate, in 2024, my little case that I laid out with chopper guys was that
the relationship is disintegrating. Whether it will completely fall apart, I don't know. It's
of course hard to imagine that given what we've all people of our age have grown up with.
But it is disintegrating through for reasons we've discussed on here today. However, America's
power is waning. SENTCOM is in the Middle East. It's an incredibly important part of the big chain of
military bases and the apparatus that more than economics or political power at this point is
what keeps our machine humming as an empire. And we have to ironically get more and more
humiliated by this ally in order to tell ourselves that it's good that we even still have an ally
there in the first place because everywhere else you look it's slipping away and China's doing a
lot more by way of business and persuasion and you know out wheeling and dealing the
the capitalist point men in the world.
So I think that the reason that this current moment,
why we're still so attached to the hip,
is actually one of desperation and ultimate confusion
and incoherence given that it's a moment of deterioration
between what used to be America's lock on the Middle East
and what is coming next,
which is a question mark for us.
I agree with Brennan a lot on that, that it is sort of the incoherence,
unpredictable, this is not a moment in which an existing order is reasserting
itself with might and vigor and revealing to us the lay lines of the global power sphere or whatever.
It's far from that. In fact, we're seeing things kind of,
is to use Brennan's word, disintegrate. We're seeing things fall apart.
And it's not that there is, like in this bipolar world,
like somebody else trying to immediately fill the void.
It's that things are resisting being a part
of this neat sphere of influence
that we've carved out for ourselves.
And it's not like, which is not to say that Gaza's a flame
because they're part of the JDPON Chinese anti-US order
or something like that.
But that all of this, these are different symptoms
in their own way of like the same kind of, again, you know, like decline, rot, the ability
to unproductively manage these really core relationships that underpin the American power
system around the world.
Yeah, it's no defense of Israel, sorry, it's no defense of American statecraft or America
in general to say that I don't think they share the goals that Israel share, that
as you know has in Gaza.
I think it's just a fact of the matter
that they are, for their own reasons,
more opposed toward rocking the boat with this fragile,
yet still existent, allyship, however increasingly
unstrategic it is, than the alternative.
And that they would probably prefer this ship were over,
because there's an election in a month and a half.
But that it's not something going
risk in the long term because as I said earlier things are cracking up and they need to take
their friends however duplicitous take their friends where they can find them for now.
Yeah I think they can also trust Israel I guess given I mean in spite of all of the
like counter espionage that Israel is committed against America or even like the U.S. liberty
incident like you mentioned they still have this attitude where they they feel like they
they can trust Israel more than they can with even like Saudi Arabia,
which at times will go against America's interest with OPEC plus.
Um, they can, uh, Israel seemingly from their calculation,
I talked about this earlier today, is like more stable as a reliable
ally than even a country like Egypt, which is a client state, but a client
state that still has an active, uh, you know, majority almost entirely, uh,
Muslim population that can sometimes overthrow their puppet leadership, the American puppet
leadership. And that's like a risk that they're not willing to take in the same way that they
can have a guy who may or may not have been, I mean, definitely was Mossad, but may or
may not have also been a CIA asset at a certain point, be the fucking prime minister.
Like there's a level of assurance that you have with Israel at the end of the
being a willing party to American hegemonic power in the region, because at the end, they
what the fuck are they going to do, are they going to go get weapons from China and Russia?
Like would that be able to carry them across any fucking finish line?
Of course not.
No, we, we, we brought that up the other day too, and you know, Felix pointed out
Russia can't even take key, you know, it's not, it's not going to, it's not going
to be able to fill the role of America.
But I do think that 50 years from now,
things could look very different in Israel.
You could imagine a scenario where they go full pariah
and take what they can get from everybody
rather than just have this uniquely profitable relationship
with America, depending on the breaks.
But for now, I think everyone, however suspicious
they are of each other, however resentful
they are of each other, they still
want to preserve an antiquated, ultimately cold war alliance that has, you know, fallen
out of, fallen out of kind of historical meaning at this point in time.
And especially considering, especially when considering like the complicated relationship
that Israel has with Russia in general as well.
I mean, there are a shit ton of Russian nationals that are now Israeli, some of
which aren't even Jewish, but they're just Israeli.
And that is the reason why the pro-Israel,
pro-Russia contingency is not exclusive
to the MAGA Republicans that got duped by a telegram.
And also to point out that like Israel
and Russia's relationship,
Israel has a relationship with Ukraine as well.
And there's lots of Ukrainian nationalists in Israel,
including rumor has it, members of Zelensky's family.
I think that the idea is that Israel, you know,
in the same way that like Istanbul
is considered sort of a neutral ground
for the wealthy and the bourgeois of, you know,
both sides of like the Saudi Iran,
like like divide for the 2010s.
Yeah.
You know, it's the one place in the region
where you can catch a flight to like pretty much any city.
I think that you, yeah, you could, you could make the,
Oh, sorry, Mike's coming in a bit hot.
Yeah, I think, I forgot what the point of comparison was.
You were talking about Istanbul, and you activated my fighter flight.
Oh, by bringing up Turkey?
By bringing up Turkey.
Turkish President Adon, I don't approach Hamas as a terrorist organization.
Turkish president add on also give a us beach where he compared Benjamin Daniel Adolf Hitler
and demanded the western powers take action as they did during world war two yesterday.
My, my woke, my woke King regive dive out of the on Mr. Nato.
I mean, he's, yeah, he plays every, the watermelon, the watermelon seller plays every side of
it.
Yeah.
He's playing.
job. Yeah, he's, he's, he's a, I mean, he has a lot of internal pressure, but this is
what happens when you have allegiances with majority Muslim nations. That is like a perfect
demonstration, right? You have a lot of internal pressure from your constituents that are
like looking at the situation and going, what the fuck are you saying? I covered this
extensively in the beginning. Early October, Recep Tayyip Erdogan was somewhat pro-Israel,
as a matter of fact. A lot of the ultra-nationalists, anti-Erdogan constituencies in Turkey,
were also pro-Israel, because of their overwhelming hatred for the Syrian refugees that now live
in Israel, the ultra-nationalists, I mean. But they were at a strategic alliance,
strategic alliance with the Israelis, even though you fucking hate their guts,
is like a Middle Eastern pastime. Yeah exactly exactly and and you know we train in Turkey Israeli
fighter pilots so that has never that has never changed so and also we the Turkish government
isn't obviously in allegiance with Azerbaijan which got most of their weapons from Israel
when they were conducting their ethnic displacement campaign in Karabakh
And beyond that, obviously, Israeli energy flows from Azerbaijan through Turkish pipelines directly into Israel, which comprises, I think, like, 40% of their entire energy grid.
Israel licenses weapons and works with everybody from Vietnam to China, you know, two countries that also have a rivalry, by the way.
I think that one of the things that like globalization and really like we're talking about the sort of like historical period beginning in like
1980 or so. So for like the last 45 years, more or less, you have had a period by which everything got like more interconnected.
There's still conflict, yes, but like the economic ties that bind a lot of these countries have made open conflict that much harder.
and people who could be isolated and removed from and picked off by sanctions regimes like Saddam Hussein
You know or obviously attempts on Cuba and North Korea
You know they'll try that but in general like it is a very difficult thing to do and that's you know
It's a testament to Israel's unique the unique like the unique crazy like you know death throughout death cults
Like a mania that they're gripped by at this moment that they're kind of you know
They're speedy running the demolition of all that.
They're removing all of the complexity that has protected them for the last 44 years on
top of the strategic assurances given by the U.S. and they're just dynamiting it with
really radically crazy, even by their standards, the most violence that they have dealt probably
in half a century.
We are now talking about it over the course of a year.
And they've lost their ability ultimately to deal out this type of violence while preserving
somehow a respectable sheen on the international stage, at least among the nations that it matters
to them.
There was an interview, I don't know who the guy was, he was someone, some Israeli
government spokesman who was being interviewed by some British journalist and the journalist
just said, what gives Israel the justification to have nukes and not Iran, especially in this
day and age?
And the guy just said, well, I find the question offensive.
And the journalist was like, well, I'm still going to ask it.
And the guy was clearly just terrified and confused as to how the interview had been
allowed to proceed to this moment.
And he said, well, I mean, you know, and he said, we, we, you know, we have the right to nukes.
We already survived, you know, a Holocaust.
And the British journalist just said, so you're saying that the reason you deserve nukes is
because the Holocaust happened.
And he says, you know, this interview is over and it's just, you could at one point probably have
expected that to work.
And now I'm not saying the media doesn't run interference, different sections, depending on, you
what country, what media organization, there's a lot of
appearance still being run for Israel, but not as much. And it
makes a big difference. And I think that in and of itself is
a sign of where things are going.
Yeah, I mean, they can't, yeah, they can't maintain this
posture as though they are a moral nation, and a democracy
when like, even the the international organs of
justice are all screaming bloody murder, like, yes, these
or feckless institutions, but they play a very important role in maintaining American
soft power around the globe.
Um, your calls, your calls to action against Russia ring hollow.
If you are packaging that immediately in the same fucking timeframe as like your unconditional
defense and loyalty to Israel, it just doesn't work.
And if your soft power doesn't work, and this is another point I brought up, uh,
yesterday, your hard power capabilities diminished. Because all of a sudden, now, if you don't
have soft power, your 800 military bases around the world in 80 nations is now a military
occupation. It's no longer a military alliance and partnership agreement. It all of a sudden
can very quickly turn into a military occupation in 800 military bases around the world.
You cannot defend that with a militant posture.
And the more people feel like there is another counterbalance out there, another superpower
out there that they can lean on, like China, the more they will take action against American
dominance of this sort.
And I think that there are plenty who see this in the State Department, and that is
probably the reason why, not because they give a shit about Palestinians, like the
guy, the guy who quit the state department early on was the one who was in charge of like
signing off on weapons transfers. Like that person has been directly responsible for the
death and destruction of so many Muslim children. Okay. I don't think he gives a fuck. I don't
think it's like his appetite for, for dead Iraqi children and dead Muslim children,
dead Arab children was, was, you know, say that enough that he was like, okay,
enough is enough, we got to stop. I think it was more so in the interest of self-preservation
that he was openly declaring America's suicide pack with Israel to be problematic.
Not unlike why in the Vietnam War you had people who supported it for a while, who thought
it was strategic for a while, but in the mostly Eastern establishment pro-NATO, pro-Europe
type crowd, you had a flight from that war, the support of that war, because they eventually
just thought, it's not worth it.
And we are now suffering in the places that matter because of it.
And that's, again, back to the Yankee cowboy dichotomy, is the management of the status
quo is ultimately to them, and this guy that resigned as weapons are, whatever he was.
The management of a good status quo is more important to him than frontierism with all
these risks of chaos.
And it's not humanitarian in its nature, but it is the sign that the most extreme elements
that still have America's ear and clearly have measures of influence might be up
against something going forward maybe. Alright well at this point I don't want to take up
too much of your time but I would like to show you guys some real history from simple
history life under the most the most evil communist regime Khmer Rouge. Now I haven't
watched it it's gonna be my first interaction with this material and I'm gonna let it run
for a little bit especially the intro without pausing because I have to pee so you won't
able to pause it, but as soon as I come back, we'll be able to discuss our thoughts on this,
especially because I feel like this will be a good rudder to steer this conversation to
the blowback podcast in its latest series. All right, let's start.
Life under the Khmer Rouge, Pol Pot, Famine and S-21. 1975 to 1979.
When the Vietnamese army captured Phnom Penh, the capital of Cambodia from the Khmer Rouge in 1979,
they found the city in a terrible state and among the horrors they came across was a former high
school that had been turned into a prison and was now a security prison 21 or just S-21.
The dark buildings weren't closed in electrified
The prisoners included academics, doctors, monks, students and their teachers
as well as factory workers and engineers
All were accused of being enemies of the regime
and tortured and forced to name their friends and family members as co-conspirators
Whole families were often brought in together to be interrogated and executed
Ultimately, paranoia meant that the regime began to turn on itself, and the cells were soon filled with party activists and their families, and even high-ranking politicians.
At this age, 18,145 people had been imprisoned there, and all but a handful had been executed.
S21 was only one of more than 150 torture and execution centers established by the Khmer Rouge.
the best way today. It stands as a memorial to the lives lost and to the brutality that
they inflicted upon the people of Cambodia. I don't know, man. I'm not sure.
The Khmer Rouge was the name given to the members of the Communist Party of Cambodia.
Okay, it seems like you guys have a lot of thoughts on the on the animation style.
Well, you know, you get the food and the wine. There's the pain apparently too.
I I hate to say it because Ben has done great work for us, Ben Clarkson, but I
I think we may have a candidate for next season's trailer.
Whoever made this, this is a little bit of a cut above,
I would say, what we've done with that video.
I agree.
I hate to say it.
So you're saying so far, so good.
No notes.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, look, I mean, it's not, it's not saying,
we were kind of talking over it,
but it doesn't seem to be saying
anything radically inaccurate.
Yeah, it's, as Brendan pointed out,
in fact, he uses like a storytelling element
that like we do, which is like, you know,
describing the scene like the moment
when Vietnamese soldiers came into the torture center
of the Khmer Rouge, a place called S-21 or Tol Slang
in the capital city of Phnom Penh in Cambodia
after the Vietnamese kicked out the Khmer Rouge.
And it's true, everything that they show
in this video is all there.
It just looks a little, it's a little off.
Is this what YouTube history is or history YouTube?
Is this what we're up against, Tucson?
Is this like our kind of, I don't know.
I've never, I've actually never even encountered this channel.
I don't think it's just, I kind of looked at it and I was like, what's a good,
like short and sweet video that we can use as like, I mean, I am in, it's like,
I said the facts aren't bad.
A lot of people in the chat are saying yes, unironically.
Yes.
Sadly.
Yes.
But that this is what YouTube history is like, because like sometimes, um,
you know, I'll look for archival clips.
YouTube you'd be surprised how much you can find you know debates or you know
Nixon or Kissinger tapes and it's just easy to get from there
but I'll have to scroll by a lot of stuff and
You know, it's the thumbnail of like of a white guy being like this like like looking shocked
And then he's got like a you know like a pastel background and it says like
You know worst worst war crimes of all-time question mark and
And then if anyone knows the Rob Wiseman tweet, Uber driver
sucked me off.
It kind of just has a very jarring thumbnail
of quite heavy events.
But I guess you could say the same thing
about some episodes of our show.
So I should probably just be humble.
Well, that's why we're saying that we should have this guy
start doing our animation from now on.
In terms of the content, I was peeing, so I didn't hear it.
but they mentioned American support for Khmer Rouge early on.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're at the beginning of the story.
We have not gotten there in the video.
I wonder if they would, but you know, it's funny.
There were people in Cambodia.
We spoke to each other and I went to Cambodia
and Vietnam for the purposes of this season.
And we had people who were really helpful
and showing us around.
And even some people there
didn't know about America's support for the Khmer Rouge.
It's not that it's top secret.
It was published by the journalists really
on top of these stories at the time.
But it seems like a much more important fact
than it was ever really given credit for.
And that's part of the reason we were attracted to this season
was to not only cover the American bombing of Cambodia
and Nixon and Kissinger and the story that is somewhat
familiar to people, certainly the Vietnam War is, but to stay after the Vietnam War
is over and then see where things went from there. Not only the rise of the Khmer Rouge,
but then their weaponization by the United States against our old enemy Vietnam. And
I think that people would be quite surprised to learn that, say, when the Vietnamese
kicked out Pol Pot, we condemned them kicking out Pol Pot and enforced a sanctions regime
against the new government in Penang Pen during famine conditions, things that might sound
familiar to people from the topic we were just discussing moments ago.
So it's a fascinating history and one that I think, you know, as we try to do, one that
we think should be more well known.
All right, well let's continue with this work of art.
CPK who ruled Cambodia between 1975 and 1979.
They were led by the infamous Paul Pot, who attempted to purify Cambodian society along
racial, social and political lines.
This led to one of the worst cases of genocide in history.
Influenced by Chairman Mao's great leap forward in China, Paul Pot imagined his own super great
leap forward in Cambodia.
After seizing power in a civil war in 1970, you made a face there.
I'm intrigued by the thought bubbles that Pol Pot is having.
One was just a building, which they did have.
Also, where is he?
He looks like he's in a room in a Counter-Strike map.
And then they wanted, it seems like he's dreaming of missiles, I guess, I don't-
Yeah, super great leap forward with missiles.
They're leaping forward with missiles.
Yeah.
Just like Mao.
I'm learning.
Now I'm learning 75 the CPK wanted to rapidly build the country under their own vision
Pol Pot compared the Cambodian Revolution with those in China Korea and Vietnam and proclaimed that no revolution would be as fast as his
Indeed the CPK was obsessed with speed and many in the party were paranoid that they would be replaced and believe the faster
Their plans could be achieved the safer they would be
The super great leap was to be achieved independent of any foreign aid through independent self-mastery
I sounds like Kamiroj Fieras
Would you say?
This guy sounds like Solid Snake to me
Yeah, a little bit. Well, I mean, put some respect on David Hader's name, sir
Well, I mean, we don't know that it's not him working on this documentary
He would never do such a thing
It's believed that an initial period of self-imposed
economic isolation would stimulate the rebirth of the crafts and the country's muito
Industrial capability in order to follow this policy of extreme self-reliance to CPK announced a four-year plan to
Triple the country's rice production
however Cambell's cooking here, you know a severely during the civil war
I'm waiting for him to I'm waiting for the narrator to say the coming originally wanted a weapon arrival metal gear
Yeah, no, it seems really like quite intense
It's like yeah, like uh like like I don't know like like like like a brother number sneak or something
Yeah, revolutionary consciousness, huh?
Polepot lined up everyone with glasses and killed them Otacon you have glasses
Of the draft animals needed to plow the fields and men killed and by 1975 rice production had dropped by 84
4%. Such a rapid increase in production was impossible, but Pol Pot believed this was merely
a matter of revolutionary willpower and his continued policy of...
It is worth pointing out, Pol Pot was the head of this government, but it was like a click.
It was kind of famously like there was a gang that was at the top of the Khmer Rouge during
this period. Again, Pol Pot was the guy in charge, but most famously there was a
Foreign Minister Yang Suri, Defense Minister Sun Sen,
head of state, like the president, a guy named Q. Sampan.
And they kind of collectively, you know,
and this is also by, I mean, like in Nazi Germany,
like Hitler was the concentrated power of authority,
but like he also had like a gang at the top
that made it possible for like the Nazi,
that were like essentially the executive function
in that regime.
And I think it's, you know, like here,
It was, again, much poorer, much less, much different place
than 1930s Germany.
But what you do see is this group that's
a very paranoid, very secretive, that are carrying out
this crazy radical, silly radical agricultural revolution.
They're doing it in this psychotically backbiting,
incompetent way.
And so that's the only thing that I
feel like is missing in describing this.
As one person we interviewed, the journalist Elizabeth
Becker who reported from Cambodia in these years, she said, not during the Khmer Rouge
but before and after, she said that like, you have to remember that everything the Khmer
Rouge did, just like imagine it's being done, but it's being done like really incompetently
by like the most incompetent people in ways that you could not overrate or overstate.
Also, she was there during the Khmer Rouge years.
She interviewed Pol Pot.
That's true.
She did visit.
I just don't want to give the impression that she was like watching all this stuff
happening and taking notes.
But yes, she had a pretty famous ill omen visit.
Okay, what is in this? Yeah, what if the Nixon attitude towards
Khmer Rouge early on was not about disrupting their their
Vietnamese neighbors operations, but instead, because Nixon was a
secret malice. This is what many talked about. This is what
many of his right-wing critics thought. I mean, it's interesting because Nixon came up as a part
of the China lobby, you know, kind of political club, which were the fanatics about getting rid of
the Chinese revolution, but in partnering with Kissinger and making peace with Communist China,
as we discussed around the same time that we were actually signing on with Israel as a special
relationship. Nixon was betraying, in a large sense, the Cold Warriors that he had come up with.
And a lot of people thought he was, you know, a communist somehow. So it has been floated,
like John Birch society types, thought that. Just saying, maybe that's something to
to investigate a little bit further, you know, he is responsible for giving up the true China,
which is Taiwan, so just saying.
Of agricultural offenses, including a nationwide system of forced labor, he believed that achieving
his economic goals would be as simple as winning the civil war.
The army and the CPK's agricultural warfare were the people, and manual labor was the
key to victory.
The purpose of every Cambodian was to work and advance the revolution.
Villages were reorganized into cooperatives and thousands of city dwellers were forced
out of their homes to work on the farms.
As a result of this policy, workers of all ages were forced to do 10 to 14 hours
of hard labor per day in unsustainable conditions.
Survivors reported working late into the night, particularly during harvest time, surrounded
by encouraging slogans urging them to pledge to sacrifice your life to accomplish Angar's
work.
Or to stay on the work site until death.
A lot of food was needed to feed all these productive farmers, however rice was also
needed for pole pots economic goals, so large amounts of rice were extracted from
the population for party use and export.
the CPK provided nothing in return.
Fereth, one survivor of the period,
recalled that she was assigned to a children's work unit
when she was 11 years old.
Fereth was ordered to carry soil, dig trenches,
and help build a local dam.
She and her unit lived at the work site.
I'm getting the sense this video,
like there was just an interview there
with a cartoon person.
That must be an interview based on reality, I assume,
they're not like sourcing anything so I'm I'm I'm just worried this channel may
not have the right approach towards sourcing and it would undermine its
its academic viability well if you've already paid a guy on Fiverr you might
as well use them all throughout the entire thing it's an aesthetic choice
that they're making it seems but you know one that is probably beneficial
for their profit structure as well.
I didn't know David Hader was on Fiverr,
but they spent the money well.
So let me ask you this question.
I guess it's like a broader snapshot of this video
that we're watching.
Do you feel like covering this perspective
Exclusively on how this was communism and it was bad communism evil scary gives full attention to to actually, you know, the rise and fall of the Khmer Rouge.
Um, I think that like one of the things that sort of it really just depends on how much weight you, you know, somebody tries to put on the communist dimension of this, like, is this a really communist or Marxist vision.
One source that we cite in the show actually talks about plans for agricultural reform
that had been drawn up for Thailand, the country next door, that were not all that dissimilar.
There were real problems that Cambodia faced with a lot of people living in the city,
living in Phnom Penh in particular.
There was some rebalancing in order.
the way that the Khmer Rouge went about it was stupid and insane and violent. But I think
that, you know, it's sort of like the Khmer Rouge didn't do all this because they had like
a really, I think like really like a rich communist tradition they felt participating
and I think that their vision was actually much more nationalist in nature and was much
more focused on revitalization and renewal of the ancient Khmer Kingdom.
That was the sort of access through which a project of national renovation was really
how they kind of characterized a lot of this.
They didn't even publicly announce themselves as Marxists until a couple years into the
existence of the regime.
It was only after Mao died and there was a lot of pressure from China, presumably,
to make that happen.
There was a communist movement before the Khmer Rouge that was largely dismantled in the middle of the 50s.
They were the second generation of Cambodian communists and they harbored a lot of bitterness and resentment toward the Vietnamese,
which had already existed in some kind of cultural and historical sense in Cambodia.
They really thought the Vietnamese were the final boss
and that everyone in the way, including the American imperialists
were going to be the easy part.
And the fact that they did survive the Cambodian Civil War
and the American bombing, in which the Viet Cong did
the vast majority of the fighting, by the way, for them,
only strengthened that idea.
By the time they take power, they've
been in a socialist movement, but it's
been one informed by a kind of small inward looking movement that had much more to say
about Cambodian nationalism or believed far more deeply in Cambodian nationalism and therefore
the xenophobia they had built up than they did on any kind of doctrinaire socialist project.
And they were criticized pretty ruthlessly by their Vietnamese and Chinese friends, eventually
the Vietnamese weren't their friends. And even when the Chinese were their patron,
The Chinese stopped trying to argue with them about the extremism of their program because
they were useful enough to them.
The Khmer Rouge were useful enough to Beijing as a geopolitical ally.
But they really didn't think much of the Khmer Rouge program.
So the Soviet Union, the Eastern Bloc, had nothing to do with the Khmer Rouge and in
fact tried to unseat them while the US was making common cause with them.
So as a communist movement, it was really quite a black sheet in the 20th century.
And whether you even care about these labels of what kind of communist they were and blah,
blah, blah, I mean, there's a lot of writing on that.
Some suggest it was more of a classic peasant revolution that had far less to do with
modern ideas of socialism and communism.
But they certainly first identified as such.
When they go into the jungles in the 80s after the Vietnamese kicked them out and the Americans
start supporting them, though, they were the first Communist Party to dissolve themselves.
Paul Pot said, we're going to have to follow the West now.
They got rid of their Mao Jackets and they started wearing safari suits.
They gave up the Communist look pretty quickly, which of course makes some suspect that
they had to do.
also I don't think were ever like, they didn't have like, you know, they weren't, they didn't
have like a rich set of relations with other third world nations. They were very isolated.
They were, you know, like a lot of communist states have meaningful foreign relations.
And in the case of the Khmer Rouge, they had one set of relations with China, which
sent them a bunch of money. And that was who they cared about. And the third time
at the beginning they had relations with Vietnam before that went south and yeah I mean to me like
I was like you're saying they're MAGA communists. Yeah, that's what someone said in the majority report
comment section the other day which in a way where they were make camp they were
from Micaga, make Cambodia great again, communist.
But yes, in a sense they were.
Yeah, or Macaga, yeah.
Micaga.
Yeah, like you used to say that, Micaga.
But yeah, they gave up their communism pretty quickly
as soon as it became advantageous too.
So I guess that if people want to judge them
on how they acted once they were out of power,
it doesn't seem too sincere.
They let the Yugoslavs into film a documentary
one point, but otherwise no is right.
Their only real relationship in the trading and economic sense was with China.
And the U.S., we funneled the money and arms and training through a coalition, which is
always useful to do, kind of like the Mujahideen.
And just claimed that if anything gets to the Khmer Rouge, we had no idea.
Of course, most of it did.
Peter Jennings did a great documentary piece for ABC in the early 90s, and we were
still supporting them and basically told the world that we were. It's really good. I think it's
still on YouTube. I grabbed a copy elsewhere for the show, but it's a good report and unfortunately,
it didn't cost doing it. One thing that you brought up was the way that the media was talking
by the Khmer Rouge early on during the period of our, you know, not so overt allegiance.
And I think that is very instructive, usually in figuring out like where the State Department's
opinions lie.
I believe you said that there was like positive coverage as well, not dissimilar to Osama
bin Laden from Western media.
In the beginning, the most positive coverage of the Khmer Rouge were coming from left-wing
sympathizers who thought that there was no way that these stories from refugees going
into Thailand could possibly be true.
There was a history, a very real history that was born.
The Noam Chomsky paradigm as well.
Isn't that like something that...
He got in trouble for saying that we have to be suspect about the stories.
I think it's been a little exaggerated to the degree that he...it's not as though
he said that they're all lies, but he was operating off of the, again, very real history
that we also cover in the show of pure invention of communist atrocity when it came to Vietnam.
So I think there were a lot of left-wingers who were like, I'm not going to get fooled again,
and in some way, they did not see it. The Vietnamese themselves, like, bottled,
like, they were, you know, like about two years into the reign of the Khmer Rouge,
when things, I mean, really after the first year, when things started to go quite badly,
the sort of, like, the way, one way that they began resolving their problems without really
resolving them was by attacking Vietnam, which China was happy for because they wanted Vietnam,
they viewed Vietnam as their principal rival and they were like, well, Cambodia is kind of a
basket case, but if they're gonna, you know, take the fight to Vietnam, then fuck it,
you know, good for them. And I think that like in Vietnam, you know, we cite sources, people who
ended up after a border conflict, you know, where Cambodian forces, Khmer Rouge forces,
massacre Vietnamese villages. And, you know, these are people from, you know,
Soviet block countries, not necessarily that sympathetic to Cambodia in the stage,
more sympathetic to Vietnam. And they are just learning, you know, after, you know,
like two years into this they're like oh only now am I like like did I start to consider that
like the Cambodian Holocaust stories were real you know like you know that's what this guy this
journalist this Hungarian journalist called them but I think that that's sort of a good illustration
of also how like the earliest coverage of these people really emphasized like the mystery and
secretiveness of this because again like that's part of what happens when you don't have foreign
relations is that like the only people who end up supporting your doofy radical program are academics who don't know better and don't have first-hand knowledge and, I guess, China in this case.
The more striking stuff is the coverage of them, the positive coverage of them, long after these were reported. And we cite one New York Times op-ed whose title was a pull-pot, brutal yes, but no mass murderer.
And the pull quote in that is Vietnam is the real threat to Cambodia. This was because and actually that journalist was a very
involved journalist in covering the
brutal war America was waging in Indochina and he had just preserved a certain I
suppose you would say
misguided
Misguided allegiance to the Khmer Rouge to the point where he opposed the Vietnamese
into the 90s for I guess being mean to them and overthrowing Pol Pot. At any
rate, it was in the New York Times. It was good enough for them. And of course
there were sort of feigned protests by American diplomats, but they, but we
preserved their seat at the UN and allowed for good coverage of them and
positive coverage of them. So that's perhaps more shocking to people. And of
course, the actual US policy itself is shocking. But when Elizabeth Becker, one of the key
guests in our show, she was with one of these Western academics, Scottish, I think?
Yeah, he was a Scottish academic who worked at SOAS in London, Malcolm MacNell.
He got murdered a room over from her while they were visiting and they were interviewing
And she almost got attacked herself, but she escaped.
And he was killed.
She suspects that the Cambodians did it to kind of say never come back,
even though they were the ones who had invited her and the deceased guy.
So, yeah, it was an odd ideological trajectory,
all sides as sort of the super third-worldest and the American architects of foreign policy came together in saying these guys aren't so bad because the Vietnamese are the real imperialists at this point.
And that was like the like narrative of like Vietnam as like committing like wanton massacres
I mean there were the issues over like boat people Chinese ethnic minorities in Vietnam and their treatment like Vietnam was catching a lot of black eyes in the sort of global PR
of the time but like, you know
They were absorbing all that while they were like and they were people were criticizing them for being the you know
military power and control of Cambodia throughout the 1980s, but they always sort of leave out.
The reason Vietnam was still there was because the Khmer Rouge were running their insurgency.
So there is this also like this process where it's like they valorized the Khmer,
sorry, not valorized, but like there was this toleration of the Khmer Rouge and
instead of talking about their crimes or even talking about the Vietnamese tribunal
of Khmer, you know, of Khmer Rouge crimes.
Like they didn't even want to engage
with the Vietnamese presence at all.
We immediately thought like, well,
how can we use Pol Pot against them?
Because they must be so de facto.
Like, you know, they are Hitler, not us, not Pol Pot.
It's the Vietnamese.
And the Vietnamese had their citizens
massacred by the thousands right on their border.
You know, this wasn't us going to Iraq
and starting a 10-year occupation for no reason.
Or even the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan,
which we covered last year, which, you know, again, was right on their border.
The Khmer Rouge were hoping to start a war with Vietnam, and they did.
And Vietnam simply said, all right, we're nipping this in the bud.
We know all the fucked up stuff these people have done, and it's not coming to us.
And that is why they took the action that they did.
They probably weren't so interested in an invasion,
given they had to reconstruct their country, which wasn't an easy thing to do.
We cover that as kind of like a side story in the show.
because the US promised Vietnam war reparations under Nixon and once he was ousted, we said
Nixon who and denied them their reparations.
Oh, I was just saying because the sun was like scrolling this video and it looks like this
video is just kind of about like how much life sucked under the Khmer Rouge. Yeah,
like there's a section on children and child labor and there's one on executions and one
on prison. It's interesting in that the Khmer Rouge did have an interrogation and executions
policy. I don't know to what extent this video gets super deep into that, but all of their
torture centers, the whole program was called S21. The idea about it, oh yeah, this is
like the expression, and by the way, this guy, Richard Dudman, he was a reporter at
the St. Louis Dispatch for many years in the 20th century.
He was an American reporter who had witnessed firsthand.
He had been one of the very few reporters
who in the early 1970s was in Cambodia
and was with Vietnamese troops,
the Viet Cong soldiers,
as they hid from American bombs being dropped on Cambodia.
So like to give you a sense of how powerful
the anti-Vietnam dogma was,
a guy who saw the Americans bomb Cambodia firsthand
and his life was in danger because of it,
is the guy who wrote this Paul Pot article
because that's how strong, that's how much we can make them
into bad guys.
You know, this is another thread of the season
of the Sino-Soviet split, which is really representative
of the greater split among the left all across the world,
including the most annoying contingent of the left,
the western left, and the western left
a bunch of crackups about, you know, like, are you a Maoist? Are you a Third Worldist? Are you
supporting Pol Pot and the Maoist movements, the real movements? Are you a fucking revisionist
social fascist who supports the USSR? And, you know, the USSR wrote off a lot of the Chinese
allies and the Chinese themselves as wackos. It's a very interesting conflict. But, yeah,
I don't know if he was like ideologically on that level, but sort of as a as a reporter. Yeah, he as I said earlier, he was one of these guys who allowed his sympathy in the 60s for the Khmer Rouge fighters to turn him against the other fighters against the American war, the Vietnamese.
And so it was like this strange like sort of siphoning off of support until he people would arrive at only the Khmer Rouge people of a certain people of a certain opinion, which is a strange place to end up, but you can kind of see how it happens.
I don't know.
Strange times.
Damn.
So, would you say that this period of American foreign policies like uniquely schizophrenic or like, is it the, is it the magic?
Actually, in a lot of ways, it makes, it makes a lot of sense. Like, that's part of what's so jarring and horrible about it. Is that like, um, like, essentially part of what the, the, the Cambodia, there's a book that we say a lot in our show for the season called Side Show by the journalist,
And although he later on like move also had an ideological journey. Yeah, he's now he's a you can look him up. He's a British journalist. He's right wing now.
And but this original book sideshow that he was called sideshow because the idea was that the Cambodia was the sideshow to the Vietnam War.
But I think what our season has sort of recovered is not so much that like yes the Vietnam conflict
Yes, we bombed Cambodia and that was because we tried to widen the Vietnam War
In an effort to end it we were like all right well Nixon said you know
I'd rather not just withdraw from camp from Vietnam
I'd like to withdraw from Vietnam, but I want to increase the pressure and I want to run
I want to bomb where I think the Vietnamese are in Cambodia and eventually that's you know like that
That was pushing the sedative dominoes that lead to the rise of the Khmer Rouge sparking
the civil war in that country and all that.
But the other thing that Cambodia was is not just the sides of the Vietnam War, but it
was this part of this larger drama by which the US was rearranging what its Cold War strategy
was for what became the final phase of the Cold War against the Soviet Union.
The Khmer Rouge and the support for the Khmer Rouge was an early joint venture
with China.
You could look at it that way.
You could see the cynicism in our policy as having actually a really dramatic coherence
to it.
I think what's schizophrenic is just how what feels schizophrenic and moral is that there
is no reason that Henry Kissinger had to bomb Cambodia and also make the Tom with the
Soviet Union.
Why couldn't we just have the Tom?
What was the fucking purpose of setting this country on fire, ultimately to arrive
at the same thing in 1975 that would have fucking happened anyway years earlier with the end of
Saigon, in the fall of Saigon. To ventriloquize the Kissinger-Nixon logic a little bit, I think they,
you know, they viewed the world in the grand chessboard, spheres of influence, 19th century
Bismarckian way. And that's certainly how Kissinger wrote and thought. And that's how
Nixon maybe not at the beginning of his career but by the time he was the president that's how
he thought he was considered himself a foreign policy president and one in the mold of creating
a stable world order in which America's first among equals. When you take that view prestige
matters a lot and so I think that not to actually disagree with Noah about the human cost of
any of this but to their minds if they were going to embark on as risky and bold a venture
as making peace with China and normalizing relations with China to basically drive a wedge
in the communist world or take advantage of a wedge that was already forming in the communist world.
They couldn't also lose the Vietnam War and also the war in Cambodia. They had to be strong enough
by winning or perpetuating that war and punishing our victims there to be strong
enough and have this credibility of strength to make this other bold move and vice versa.
So it became a feedback loop of this kind of horrible logic where big countries we can work with,
like China or the Soviet Union, because they got the salt treaty out of it with the Soviet Union,
which was good. But it's always at the expense of the smaller nations. This was something that
Fidel kind of said around the time of the missile crisis, which you can agree with and
disagree with as well in certain ways, which was like, although overall I find it persuasive,
which is the United States and the USSR, you know, we know they're going to work stuff out.
The question is what happens to us, the small countries. And I think that was the same
question hanging over Nixon and Kissinger's peace deals with China for Vietnam, Cambodia,
and Laos. It was a trade off to them. You couldn't have one without the other.
I think that's what they said.
In Kissinger's case, the irony, the horrible thing is that in a way, he was kind of the
of the dude who was born for this mission.
Because his actual academic research and what he spent,
or not research, it's a strong word for it,
but what he spent time writing about
and sort of espousing opinions about
in like Foreign Affairs magazine and stuff
was about this idea of fighting little wars
in what he called the gray areas of the world.
Yeah, I think he was a strategy master of this exact thing.
And, you know, he was ready made for what Nixon needed, which was in essence to like set the third world on fire because by the way, it wasn't just, you know, Cambodia.
I mean, it's a very good book by the historian Paul Thomas Chamberlain called The Cold War Killing Fields that sort of, you know, tells the story of how the Cold War was this insanely hot war in all these little countries.
I mean, or you have even some not so little ones like Indonesia.
Yeah, yeah exactly Indonesia or fucking Bangladesh and Pakistan. I mean those are not small countries either
I mean it's rather
You know, I mean it's it's it's rather you know, there's some rather savage wars of peace
You could argue
Yeah, and it's not too um
not to defend or or revise the
The the idea in America and certainly in the countries where this happened that the Kissinger Nixon were involved in evil venture
or brutal senseless violence. But the, I think it's worth clinically and, you know,
carefully looking at why their policy was what it was and what stabilizing things did come out of it
and what destabilizing things and terrible things came out of it. It was good to make peace with
of Communist China, that was a needlessly hostile
and destructive American policy for decades.
It wasn't a good thing to obviously base that kind
of progress on the expense of hundreds of thousands
of people, billions of people in Indochina.
Anthony Blinken possesses all of the Craven aspects,
for example, of what Kissinger would allow
or enforce for his president on the global stage
with obviously zero of the vision or pretenses to vision
that you can at least recognize in a self-aggrandizing,
but ultimately significant historical statesman
like Kissinger.
Blinken is just a hopeless fool.
And the American foreign policy now doesn't have anything
like the kind of gutsy vision that these imperial minds had
in the middle of the Cold War.
So that's a way of talking about schizophrenia,
the different angles.
Like the last thing I'll say about it to sum it up
is in China, when Kissinger died,
he is officially a celebrated figure.
Americans, there's memes, and he was evil.
the most evil guy, which I sometimes think is kind of lets every other American war criminal
off the hook. If it's just like, oh, this is one guy, he was just the one evil person.
It's not to, again, to defend or be an apologist. I think it's a little, it's a little bit of
baby's first, you know, well,
He's the reason that the Kiss and your hate is so passionate is because of a very specific
thing, which is that he lied about the Vietnam War ending. And like the sense of antipathy
that I think like generations of Americans have held for him for years in particular really
just comes down to like hit like that more than anything that he was like Nixon's Vietnam
butt boy. And like that, you know, the justifiable and totally correct hatred of him at front.
You got a Nobel Peace Prize. Exactly. It makes a lot, you know, it's, he was sort
of, you know, I mean, I was going to say, it reminds me honestly of Elon Musk,
like, just imagine having to see his fucking mug everywhere for the 70s. Like, my God,
would be annoying. Yeah, although it must be said Kissinger was a much more he had far more game
than the Elon Musk. He had far more risk than the Elon Musk. He did a lot with how ugly he was.
So I want to ask you guys one final question, but like in terms of like, I guess on its face,
somewhat incomprehensible foreign policy movements that the
the Nixon Kissinger duo engaged in. Do you see an analog there with the current administration
in the way that they're dealing with the dynamics between Hezbollah, Iran, the Gulf States, and
also Israel? Or is it more so just like you said on autopilot at this point? And it's
just like Anthony Blinken is a is a Wormish figure who is just trying to let everybody
dominate him. He's just sitting in the cuck seat along.
I agree with that. The one thing I would add is say that like, you know, maybe the way
to look at it is not like, oh, is this situation like that one or something? But it's like,
what are the dynamics that were present in that situation and that may be present in
this one and vice versa? Like in this case, you know, like in Lebanon, Lebanon and Cambodia
are not like an exact parallel. They're not like, and you can't force them. But
there is a truth to the fact that like Cambodia and Lebanon were both sort of
drawn into this, you know, they're sort of in a conflict with Israel
that is connected to a conflict that is connected to this other frontier of the conflict
and now
Israel as the war-making party in the way that the US was
now has to like spread the war around
because it cannot resolve the domestic political issues
that would come with actually just ending the war
which in Nixon's case was the paranoia about not losing the war
really, you know, his obsession with that, in addition to the anti-communist fervor or
whatever.
And in the case of Israel, it's about like, you know, I mean, it's all the things that
we talked about earlier, the ideology, the sense, the actual stakes of survival or financial
crisis and so on.
But to me, that sort of the point of comparison is about like the degree to which like,
you know, a war can spread and suck other things in for no good intelligible reason
at all, other than to satisfy the political prerogatives of the war-making party.
We've talked about how there was a vision on behalf of the Nixon and Kissinger were pursuing.
China detente with the USSR, that was far more honestly compared to the policy that
came before, far more coherent and possibly constructive even.
That was taken in tandem with incredibly senseless wars that they viewed as bargaining
chips, the countries involved as bargaining chips.
What you have is no vision in the American side nowadays that could compare to their
idea of a new world order that they were building, Israel's alliance with Israel being
one part of that.
And it's Israel who is taking just the senseless violence half of the Nixon-Kissinger strategy,
as Noah just said, you compare Nixon's remark when he announced the invasion of Cambodia.
He said, to your point, Hassan at the top of our part of the show, he said, this is
not an invasion.
This is a way to end the war in Vietnam.
In other words, escalating things into Cambodia is a way to de-escalate them in Vietnam.
What did Israel say the other day?
We are escalating things as a way to achieve de-escalation.
It's hard not to see an echo of what we discussed this season and the kind of ripple effects
that that can have on a formerly nearby but neutral third country.
And it remains to be said, I hate when people say this, but we have to see how Hezbollah,
which has been attacked and has the right to self-defense, how conservative they are
and how much of a balancing act they are willing to put up,
because Cambodia put up a balancing act
for many years to spare itself the violence,
and eventually it failed.
So we'll have to see how that goes in this case,
but no one in our current day is unfortunately
can be said to be as on the level of Nixon and Kissinger,
I think, as far as their grand master plans are.
Yeah, I mean, we're now in a position
where like Nixon and Kissinger,
part of what made them so special, let's say, or unique was that Kissinger literally had
permission when he soon as he became a national security advisor to like redo the wiring in
Washington and become the most powerful advisor, like the hand of the prince or the hand of
the king or whatever.
Literally, literally the wiring.
He could do whatever, you know, he had the authority to do all that.
And one of the things with Biden world that sort of become evident is that there's
this troika at the top.
You have Jake Sullivan, Anthony Blinken, and Bill Burns, who's the head of the CIA.
And Bill Burns is the one who clearly is trusted with the big boy stuff or whatever.
But there isn't actually any, I don't really believe at this stage that we have any evidence
that there is a driver's seat, let alone somebody in it, in terms of the American
strategic outlook here.
So to affirm what Brennan was saying, there's nobody who's on the Nixon-Kissinger level
or whatever, because the situation that we have now is not anything like that. It's this
inertia. It's this horrible, I mean, it's like a prerotted artery that's exactly what
like pro-Israeli has purchased and won for itself through its machinations. That's what
it wants because that is what enables the status quo to persist. It was a different
era 50 years ago, just a radically different time.
It's just hard to comprehend when you have to consider that there is like this incredibly
powerful force, this blight on human society for so many generations is just like basically
fallen asleep at the wheel and like the car is just, you know, three seconds removed
from flying off the side of the cliff.
Like, it feels insane.
I think autopilot is the right word.
I mean, it's not to say like,
America doesn't know what it's doing
or no one's at the wheel,
but I think autopilot in terms of the strategic,
you know, again, not to overuse the word,
but the strategy, the strategic vision,
The idea of how America's power is going to sustain itself over the next 100 years, and
Nixon and Kissinger, they thought they had a plan for that and it wasn't quite 100 years,
but they did set down a lot of things in stone that stuck.
By now, I think their China policy has been reversed, obviously, we're in a cold war
with China in many ways.
The Israel alliance is still there.
I mean they left room for that too. It's not like, I mean, strategic ambiguity is obviously like
still leaving a lot of room.
The Soviet Union fell, you know. So in a sense maybe the China, the China factor was not as important to them.
Although in Nixon's waning years, he did say that NATO needs to back off because what would come after the Soviet Union should we continue to creep up to them would be and even as he considered it an even more dangerous form
of Russian nationalism and he said NATO needs to chill out as did a lot of other cold warriors.
Kissinger in his final years was talking about how America should do business with
Belt and Road, not attack it. So very different form of statecraft than it's again it's not to
endorse it but it has very key differences from the sort of again lazy and incoherent
liberal aggression that you find under I should say aggression that you find under a liberal
government like Biden with a with the so-called you know liberal brain trust like like Sullivan and
and Mr. Bluesman what's his name Anthony Blinken like that's I mean that does make sense though
with what you said about Nixon and we said about Kissinger tracks with like their real
politic attitude in terms of like understanding the changes that are happening broadly around
the globe and like responding to them in a very cold and calculated manner that is beneficial
for America. Whereas nowadays I feel like in the post 9-11 universe we have a significantly
more like liberal, savior attitude. Like we have seemingly diluted ourselves into thinking
that like no we are the world police and that is a good thing and it's not necessarily something
that you just tell the American population so that you can justify whatever imperialist endeavor
you engage in. Well and just one last thing on that it's like you hear it all the time but I
heard it yet again the other day where Biden said America will not retreat from the world
and that's the type of that that's the line they've gone with and it's like all right well
Well, then don't retreat from withholding Israel's aid and weapons and money.
You're retreating from the world in a very significant sense when you don't use the leverage
you have over a client state committing extermination campaign and just let them do it.
That sounds like a retreat to me, but that's of course not what the actual line is meant
to convey.
they mean is that it makes it sound like it's a bold and active approach towards solving
problems when in fact it's trying to say we won't retreat from the world meaning we won't
retreat from a failed imperial autopilot that has really no ideas left.
We're just going to stick with it because if you really wanted to not retreat you might
be more active in solving this conflict.
I hate the word conflict in regards to Palestine, but certainly the ability to yank Israel's
ability to wage war away from it, that would be pretty proactive, but no one seems to want
to do it.
And beneficial for future American moral posturing?
It would be.
Unambiguously would be.
And electorally beneficial.
they came out and said we I mean people would see through it probably people on
this call and watching it would see through it but they could come out and
say we did it we got the ceasefire we yanked their weapons away and guess what
American power baby we got the bad man Netanyahu oh what he was popular in
Israel at the time that we decapitated him don't fucking care we're America no
They're not like
Liberals it was always
Liberals on as it was always the exit ramp that I thought they would take far before this moment
And when Benny gots came to America to talk to Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, I was like, oh, this is what they're gonna do
They're gonna get the fucking liberal general to be like the new leader and now
That method has been a demonstrable failure because you got fucking Benny Goss like outside of the governing coalition now
And Benjamin Netanyahu's popularity is only increased and you even have the likes of Yahya Lapid, the supposed centrist opposition to Benjamin Netanyahu, like
chirping like a seal in celebration of blowing up Lebanese pagers and
the prospect of invading Lebanon. It's insane.
Yep
Yeah, I think it's hit it on the head earlier that the it's it's certainly
key that Israel's internal politics do not allow for anyone that America wants to work
with to come to any kind of reasonable conclusion at this point.
It's all, it's turtles all the way down there with the maniac mentality.
But that would simply mean that those in the White House and the State Department and
elsewhere could, as we said just a moment ago, say, we're America, baby, and we're not
going to let anyone tell us what to do, whether they're an ally or not.
We're going to force them and bring them to a heel.
But that's actually far too bold and far too gutsy for them to try.
So they're just going to, you know, let it all happen, which is politically makes
them look weak and more importantly allows a horrible slaughter to continue, obviously.
Yeah, it's all good. You know, yeah, American soldiers will go and die in battle in Lebanon,
if Israel chooses to do so. And then that will be so politically disadvantageous to the Democratic
Party's position of failing to stop this deadness tracks that Donald Trump will become
president. And then Donald Trump will be seen as the bold, brave savior of American, American
foreign policy by quickly putting together at least like a fake deal that makes Netanyahu seem
like he's actually backed away. And then he'll allow Benjamin Netanyahu to annex the West Bank.
Yep. Great stuff overall. Awesome. Great job, Joe.
Anyway, thanks so much guys for coming on. Where can people find your podcast?
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Oh, before you guys leave, I have an extra question.
Noah, specifically for you, you hang out with Psy. Have you ever asked him about a particular
Benjamin Nittai that he may or may not have gotten classified intel from when writing an article
for The New York Times back in the day? Yeah. I mean, he told me that story. I mean,
it's a great story about how basically, and this is in this sub-stack, which I encourage
people to subscribe to, but he talks about how it was common knowledge that when Benjamin Netanyahu
was deputy ambassador at the UN, he, uh, or sorry, deputy ambassador in DC, and then ambassador at the
UN, uh, he was a go-to guy to get intel. And I understand. Israeli intel, right? American intel.
It was Israeli intel or American, but the idea was that, uh, Netanyahu would share intel and
would choose with the press very openly and aggressively. No, Psy has, he's got like if like
he's he's always got he's got many stories like that over many many years and you know I was lucky
enough to hear that one like right before he published it so hopefully you know some of the
other goofy ones he's told me will be coming out in this sub stack sometime soon. But yeah we
We talked to him in the season as well and he was, it was actually, it's the only episode
that we've ever done that is just totally unedited.
Like it is just the phone call with me, Brendan and Psy and it's really, really fun.
It's really good.
Hell yeah.
That's blowback podcast.
Everybody, thank you so much, Brendan James, Noah Colvin.
We're coming on.
Love to have you guys as always.
Thank you.
Take it easy.
Bye.
That was Brandon James and Noah Colwin, ladies and gentlemen of the blowback podcast. Fantastic
podcast. I highly recommend you guys check it out. It will help you understand American
forum policy. I know in a lot of instances I talk about how America is bad or I say America
bad, but this is exactly how America bad and why I say America bad. Anyway, we're
Quickly going to move on to the Kamala Harris interview that's taking place on MSNBC.
Okay. I'm going to try that one more time with Stephanie rule after Stephanie rule came out and said she supports people voting.
Left us on the worst economy since the Great Depression. When you look at, for example, the employment numbers, it was during COVID.
I also must urge you to subscribe at the top of the hour because there's a three minute outbreak coming for you right now.
He lost manufacturing jobs by most people's estimates, at least 200,000.
He lost manufacturing plants as the auto workers, how he lost auto plants.
We have grown over 20 new auto plants.
He has an agenda, let's just deal with it right now going forward, not to mention
what happened in the past.
He has an agenda that would include making it more difficult for workers to earn overtime.
an agenda that would include cutting off access to small business loans for small businesses
and agenda that includes time.
This is live on MSNBC when the interview launches, we'll watch it from the start.
There will be 20% more on everyday necessities and an estimated $4,000 more a year on those
everyday necessities to the point that top economists in our country, from Nobel laureates
to people at Moody's and Goldman Sachs
have compared my plan with his
and said my plan would grow the economy,
his would shrink the economy.
I love how stupid this level of argumentation is.
It was stupid when Brandon was saying it
and it's still stupid when Kamala was saying it.
And invite a recession by the middle of next year.
Hell yeah, Goldman Sachs, baby, let's go.
But Donald Trump has a history of taking care
of very rich people.
And I'm not mad at anybody for being rich, but they should pay their fair share.
But tax cuts for the billionaires and the top corporations in our country, and then not
really paying much attention to middle-class families.
My perspective on the economy is when you grow the middle class, America's economy
is stronger.
And there's empirical evidence to prove my point correct.
Then let me ask you about taxes, because lots of people will say, I don't like Donald
Trump, but he cut my taxes. He didn't just cut corporate taxes. He cut individual taxes.
Now that expires next year. And there's some people confused saying, I don't know what's
going to happen next year under a Harris administration. At what income level should someone expect
their taxes to go up and that state and local tax deduction that's currently capped
and matters to a lot of people in blue states, you're going to lift that cap.
So first of all, when it relates to anybody making less than $400,000 a year, your taxes
will not go up.
Your taxes will not go up.
And in fact, under my plan, taxes, that means you're going to make the Trump tax cuts permanent.
What's wrong with including $6,000 a year for for young couples for the first year
of the, oh my God, she's going to make the tax Trump tax goes that are supposed to
sunset.
She's going to make him permanent.
Like what the fuck is that?
during the first year of a young couple of a person's child's life, they're going to
need help buying a crib, buying a car seat, and we all benefit when they're actually able
to do what they naturally want to do to take care of their child.
And expanding that child tax credit, or you mentioned housing before, giving that extra
money for a first home, if you can't raise corporate taxes or if GOP takes control
of the Senate, where do you get the money to do that?
Do you still go forward with those plans and borrow?
Well, but we're going to have to raise corporate taxes.
And we're going to have to raise.
Yeah, it's not new, but she's never
said it within the context of like from tax cuts
since the crack shots, sunsetting.
Billionaires pay their fair share.
That's just it.
It's about paying their fair share.
I am not mad at anyone for achieving success,
but everyone should pay their fair share.
And it is not right that the teachers and the firefighters
that I meet every day across our country
are paying a higher tax than the richest people
in our country.
Bill Gates just said it this week.
If he was in charge of taxes, he would have paid more.
But how do you find that line to make sure corporations are
paying their fair share, but they're not leaving our country?
Well, listen, I work with a lot of CEOs.
I have spent a lot of time with CEOs.
And I'm going to tell you that the business leaders who
are actually part of the engine of America's economy
agree that people should pay their fair share.
They also agree that when we look at a plan such as mine,
that is about investing in the middle class,
investing in new industries,
investing in bringing down costs,
invest in entrepreneurs like small businesses,
that the overall economy is stronger
and everyone benefits.
Part of my plan for the economy
is investing in new industries in a way
that we have active partnership with the private sector.
I've worked with the private sector my entire career.
Even as vice president, working with some of the biggest banks
and biggest tech companies to increase by billions of dollars
the money going into community banks
to increase access to capital for small businesses.
Why do those biggest corporations and CEOs do that?
Because they know those kinds of investments,
like in our small businesses, in startups and entrepreneurs,
actually strengthens America's economy overall
and everyone benefits.
So this is not about bilking anybody, but it just-
Bro, Stephanie Ruhl is eating this.
So that we create opportunities for everyone to grow wealth.
I believe that it is not sufficient
and it should not be our goal
to just make sure everyone is working.
That should be the baseline.
That should be a given.
And let's create an economy
where people have the ability to buy a home,
just start a business,
to take a nice vacation from time to time, right?
For people who want to buy a home, yes,
getting a $25,000 kicker would be great.
But it's not just affording a home.
We don't have enough in this country.
You're absolutely right.
And one of the main problems are regulations and rules,
strict, strict rules at a local level.
How does the federal government cut through all that red tape
and get down to, I know, the suburbs of Pittsburgh
and say, we're going to have to build
some affordable housing here?
How do you connect the two?
So you're absolutely right.
So across our country, people rightly are concerned
about the cost of housing.
So it's home ownership to your point.
We need more supply.
That is without any question, part of the solution.
Creating more supply under my plan includes
creating tax incentives to work with the private sector
and home builders.
Part of my goal and the plan would be
to create 3 million new housing units
for rent and for ownership by the end of my first term.
It includes also what we must do to cut red tape.
You're absolutely right.
It takes far too long and there's too much bureaucracy
associated with home building.
And I say that as a developed public servant.
I know that we have to reduce the red tape
and speed up what we need to do around building.
And that is going to require working
from the federal level with state and local governments.
And it's going to be different in different places,
depending on the needs of that community,
the needs of that local government, that municipality,
but working in consultation and coordination
and also around incentives that we can create.
For example, some of the work is gonna be through
what we do in terms of giving benefits
and assistance to state local governments
around transit dollars and looking holistically
at the connection between that and housing
and looking holistically at the incentives
we in the federal government can create
for local and state governments
to actually engage in planning in a holistic manner
That includes priority.
She's still way too much more fucking urbanist envy
for my liking that I like it.
Coming up, much more accepting rules,
exclusive interview with Vice President Kamala Harris.
I mean, I like the way she communicated the last aspect
because obviously public transit is directly tied.
It's hand in hand with housing.
If you increase, for example, housing density
and change the readily available housing supply
to like higher density urban housing,
you're gonna need to improve public transit. So like, things of that nature are pretty solid.
And it's not just like the most annoying urbanist yinbis that are aware of these realities.
Having said that, however, obviously Kamala Harris I have no confidence in so I do believe
she's probably hitting that from the NIMBY perspective, or not NIMBY sorry, YINB perspective.
I, you guys know, for me, it's like, make the fucking federal government compete. Okay.
We need deflation on housing. We need the housing bubble to fucking pop. So what that
needs in an effort to do that, you need to create an alternative, a government subsidized
alternative, not government subsidies of the public private partnership, but like directly
a federal jobs program that actually constructs these housing units all around the country
state by state if you would like to do so. And then that housing development project should also be
socialized housing, social housing, public housing. This is the way that the government
competes with the private marketplace and still utilizes the capitalist market measures in an
effort to ensure that there is some kind of sustainability in terms of pricing. Okay.
Of course, Kamala Harris will never do that. That's not going to happen. And her alternative
To the current unsustainable model that we have that is that is created is so much homelessness is simply
deregulation and tax incentives for big real estate developers. I
personally consider this an
Awful way to try and solve a problem. I don't think this will solve the problem at all
It will sit on those tax incentives. They will not complete those fucking housing projects
and all of this will go to waste inevitably.
That matters a lot to this town.
Yeah, U.S. Steel.
Yes.
Right?
When you think Pennsylvania, when you think Pittsburgh, you got the Liberty Bell and Philly,
and you got U.S. Steel and Pittsburgh.
That's right.
A Japanese company wants to buy them.
You are opposed to this idea.
Many people are.
But if the deal doesn't go through, they have said people could lose jobs.
They could close mills.
They could leave the state of Pennsylvania.
I mean that is like moving the Liberty Bell to Newark.
York. So which is more important? It's most important that we also whenever she's talking
about housing, how the fuck do you not bring up rent caps? What happened in manufacturing
of steel by American? What happened? She dropped it, which includes again, I'll tell you what
she's not dropping the price of rent, but the economy overall investing in new industries.
There is not a new industry. This is why I'm voting for Joe Biden. Imagine Mr. Mr.
I'm gonna fucking decrease rent. I'm gonna put a rent cap at $55 a month. That's why that's why I'm writing in Biden's name in an American company
Manufacturing that steel for those new industries is gonna be critically important not only in terms of our economy
But also in the context of national security
most people now realize if we didn't before the pandemic
and the strain on supply chains and an over-reliance on foreign manufacturing
that we have to be intentional about U.S.-based manufacturing. And of the
products that we have to prioritize, steel is one of them. And that's always
going to be my priority. Steelworkers matter in this country. Unions matter.
Yes. In 2016, Donald Trump connected with unions. He saw them. Well increased. There was an emotional
reaction. Supply of housing not lower rent prices. I think it will lower rent prices a little bit.
It's an inevitability. I just don't even think that they will actually increase the supply of
housing though. I don't believe it. And they will not punish it like the PPP loans. And nobody
got punished for that. Okay. So many people engaged in fraud and virtually zero people got
punish for it just like all of these tax all these tax cuts that you'll get in order to
attempt to build a house will get mucked up in the process. This is something that I know
very well as a California resident. Okay. This is how it goes in California.
Investing in new industries and working actively with the private sector to grow our economy.
But I'm asking, because there's this idea, we want something more from her.
What is it?
Well, here's the thing, back to your point about previous election cycles, Donald Trump
made a whole lot of promises that he did not meet.
And one would argue broke.
Look at Lordstown.
He said he was done.
Don't sell your homes.
Yeah, don't sell your homes.
And what happened?
It shut down, outsourcing under Donald Trump.
policies that are about putting, you know, tens to hundreds of percent tariffs.
John Deere. Yes. Yes. So part of the challenge, and I don't disagree that it's
a challenge, got to earn the vote of everybody, is reminding people of fact
regardless of what somebody says in a small rally somewhere. And I think
that's really important. And that's part of what I'm doing in this
campaign is to remind people, just like here in Pittsburgh, of the reality of who has stood
with union labor, who stands for American manufacturing, who stands for American jobs.
Can I ask you about tariffs?
Because you just mentioned it, it's not just with one company.
Donald Trump's sort of big idea is this broad-based tariffs across the board.
You and many others have said that would be not only disastrous, but it would be
a direct tax on the American consumer.
would be a sales tax on the American people that the independent economists have already
measured this by his the sales tax of doing a 20% tariffs on all imports that he has described
would be a 20% sales tax in essence on basic necessities for the average American worker
average American family totaling almost $4,000 a year. That is no small matter here in
Pittsburgh, when I'm talking to a group of folks who work here, who live here, and when
they hear it might be $4,000 more a year for them, look, people can't afford that.
But tariffs aren't unique to President Trump.
President Biden has tariffs in place.
He's actually looking to potentially implement more.
Where do you come out on this?
There are good tariff, a bad tariff.
Well, part of it is you don't just throw around the idea of just tariffs across
the board and that's part of the problem with Donald Trump.
Frankly, and I say this in all sincerity,
he's just not very serious about how he thinks
about some of these issues.
And one must be serious.
He's like, we're gonna do good tariffs.
He's doing bad tariffs.
It's such a funny, Trumpian ass line.
Some talking point ending in an exclamation
at a political rally, but actually putting the thought
into what will be the return on the investment
and what will be the economic impact on everyday people.
And when you look at my plans,
you will see what those benefits will be.
$25,000 down payment assistance for first time home buyers.
You know what that means?
Then you're creating the ability of that working person
to build intergenerational.
$25,000 for homeowners, baby.
Doing the work of a $6,000 child tax credit.
Doing the work of a $50,000 tax deduction
for first time small businesses, startups.
Because right now.
That's a real plan.
It's a real plan because right now,
And again, it's about paying attention to the detail
and being serious about it.
I'm serious about my enthusiasm and my,
for small businesses and my belief in what they will do
as part of America's economic engine.
I'm sorry.
Oh, sorry.
No, so looking at the fact that right now
the tax deduction is $5,000.
The $25K make a difference in the US housing market?
I mean, it's good for a lot of people
that are right around the corner,
but probably not in the long run
because it will just make houses $25,000 more.
innovation and the ambition of the ideas that are present
and among us, but need the fuel to be able
to actually achieve the goal.
His plan is not serious when you lay it out like that,
but a serious problem over the last few years
has been inflation.
Luckily it's cooling, but prices are still high.
Yeah, I agree with you.
You've said you wanna take this on
by going after those who engage in price gouging.
But as somebody who supports free markets,
Who's a capitalist?
How do you go after price gouging
without implementing price controls?
Because once we get in this zone,
people start to get worried and they say,
I don't know what she stands for.
So just to be very frank,
I am never gonna apologize for going after
companies and corporations that take advantage
of the desperation of the American people.
And as Attorney General, I saw this happen.
in the midst of an emergency,
whether it be an extreme weather event
or even the pandemic, we saw it.
Where those few companies, not the majority, not most,
but those few companies that would take advantage
of the desperation of people and jack up prices.
Yeah, I'm gonna go after them.
Yes, I'm going to go after them.
And that is part of a much more comprehensive plan
on what we can do to bring down the cost of living,
including housing, including the everyday needs of the American people.
Coming up more of Stephanie rules interview with Vice President Kamala Harris,
where she addresses Trump's claim.
Yeah, she's glazing super hard.
Okay, Stephanie rule is glazing common.
One argument I've seen against the notion of price will go up 25 Ks.
The sellers don't know or care whether the buyer is going to get the tax credit.
All they know is the down payment and the mortgage money and not everyone
will qualify for the full amount of any.
Yeah, that doesn't matter.
What matters is, they see the $25,000 in tax credit and they go, oh, there's opportunity
for us to increase the price.
The way to actually lower the price is by creating more housing units.
How you do that matters.
Kamala Harris wants to do that through deregulation, which I don't like.
She wants to do that by offering tax incentives to real estate developers, which I also
do not like, okay?
I think that the private-public partnership is a demonstrable failure in the state of
California.
As Kamala Harris, a California Democrat, it is, I guess, expected for her to behave in
a California Democrat-style way, which is usually lip service and people voting for
really progressive housing market reform only to get nothing in return, like never
actually get said housing market reform implemented because of that very same public-private
partnership that we were talking about. It's always the private developers that just kind
of go, ah, thanks for the tax cuts. We just couldn't finish this project. Sorry. We really
wanted to. We just couldn't. And now we're going to be using the tax cuts and the
unfinished projects as a way to lower our taxable burden even further. After all,
is just eating away at our pockets. I don't know. It's just one way that I'm thinking.
Why would a developer personally not finish a project? I don't know. Fucking literally
ask any dude, dude, great question dog. I don't know. Why are there so many fucking empty
plots in the state of California that were supposed to be building like homeless shelters
and shit? Okay, or additional housing units? I don't know. That's a great question.
That's why I said they do it all the fucking time.
Don't ask me, I don't know.
You think seriously regulations won't slow down the building of houses?
Regulations of an absolute shanghaol on progress like the middle of the hour ad break has
an unsubscribed viewers?
Putting on my Lib Hopium hat could have been having a California damage potas at least
be a good stepping stone in destigmatizing progressive posturing nationally.
No, because she's not even doing progressive posturing nationally.
What the fuck, my Gophonics?
Guys, what out of Kamala Harris's policies, with some exceptions, is like a genuinely progressive policy?
We're talking about like 90s Republican Party-ass fucking attitudes, in terms of like, building new housing units by giving tax cuts to fucking real estate developers, and, and, and beyond that.
You're not destigmatizing California progressivism. You're not because this is not California progressivism. Also, this is the worst aspects of California progressivism. If you're thinking about like Gavin Newsom, and that's gross and awful anyway, it's just pure neoliberalism.
Right before this interview MSNBC had a panel where someone was arguing that Harris needs to pander more to the left than to the Nikki Haley Republicans who will vote for Republicans. Damn. Who was that? That's crazy.
I work in the home building industry every project is done by a separate LLC set up just for that project and they contract the construction to the home building company.
That way they can just shutter the LLC and walk away if the project goes wrong or if they if it won't have the right profits.
Every matter of like legislation.
Every part of our legislative agenda, legislative agenda revolves around tax cuts for corporations and deregulation or the opportunity economy.
one of these is an economic one and no one is eating cats and dogs in Springfield, Ohio
and I'm glad not to be talking about that but there are people there that are stressed
that feel that they're at capacity communities around the country that have legal immigration
many have said we're we're we're at capacity and many feel like the government has said
to them well adapt sit down be quiet this is how it is what would a Harris administration
do for those communities who have taken in many, many legal immigrants but are at capacity.
Well first of all, we do have a broken immigration system and it needs to be fixed.
And if we take a step back, months ago, some of the most conservative numbers in the United
States Congress came together with Supreme Field, Ohio, closed a border security bill
that would have put 1500 new border agents.
Please look at any of these Rust Belt States, man.
Border agents work there right now working around the clock.
would have put more money into stemming the flow of fentanyl, which is killing Americans
around our country and devastating communities, would have put more resources into our ability
to prosecute transnational criminal organizations, which in my career I've prosecuted.
Donald Trump got word of the bill, realized it was going to fix the problem he wanted
to run on and told him to kill the bill, don't put it up for a vote.
He killed a bill that would have actually been a solution because he wants to run
on a problem instead of fixing the problem.
And that's part of what needs to be addressed.
And my pledge is that when elected president, if the American people will have me, I will
bring that bill back and I will sign it into law.
And we need a comprehensive plan that includes what we need to do to fortify not only our
border but deal with the fact that we also need to create pathways for people to
earn citizenship.
And I want to just ask you about a little job and a big job.
The first one, just a fact check.
Because your opponent there's no little day. No such thing as a little job. Okay, fair fair
Because your opponent almost every day seems to be talking about this
So I just want to ask you yes or no at any point in your life
Have you served to all beef patties special sauce?
Let us choose pick these onions on a sesame seed bun working out of McDonald's. Yes or no, that's it
I have okay now the other job
I mean I you know
But then let me ask about a big job, but to your point, if you don't mind before you
get to the big job, it's a there's a part of the reason I even talk about having worked
at McDonald's is because there are people who work at McDonald's in our country who
are trying to raise a family.
I worked there as a student.
I was a kid who worked there trying to raise families and pay rent on that.
And I think part of the difference between me and my opponent includes our perspective
on the needs of the American people, and what our responsibility then is to meet those needs.
And to the big job, you have laid out policy in great detail.
But the economy is an unpredictable beast, and you are running for a job that takes
extraordinary instinct and guts.
What's the last time you were to make a gut decision?
This here is very prescribed, it's very controlled.
Probably the biggest gut decision I've made most recently is to choose my running mate.
Yeah.
There were lots of good incredible candidates and ultimately that came down to a gut decision.
I know I'm out of time but then I just want to ask you a question from my gut.
Because today we're talking about the economy.
And people don't think often about reproductive rights being an economic issue, but it is.
A woman's ability to plan her future, her education, her life.
Today, and in the last few days, Donald Trump keeps talking about it and how in overturning
Roe v. Wade, he helped women.
He protected women.
He says they're miserable today.
They're poorer today.
They're more vulnerable today.
He said he will be the protector of women if elected.
Can you respond to that?
Donald Trump is also the person who said women should be punished for exercising a decision
that they rightly should be able to make about their own body and their future.
So I think we would all agree that as a result of that perspective that he has about women,
he also then chose three members of the United States Supreme Court who did as he intended,
did the protections of Roe v. Wade and now in state after state you see laws being passed.
But do-
In an alternative universe Bernie Sanders gets this level of dick riding and glazing
for his policies and America is like universally on board with Medicare for all and many other
issues that Bernie spoke to.
And basically, you know, we bring about the new, new deal era for the Democratic
party and the Democrats end up beefing up labor unions and and going in the
opposite direction of the grand bargain or the third way or neoliberalism and
they just win so fucking hard and the momentum of like openly socialist or you
know social democratic politicians is is so great that there's an entirely new
youth wing of the democratic movement and you know and that's where we're at
except that's not where we're at wake up we're in fucking the shittiest part
interview and I thought you pressed her on really important stuff it was it was
also I just thought it was the whole thing was refreshingly substantive this
was a you know you can say I don't like that policy or I do like that
policy but it really was about like here the earth we live in the kinds
of decisions you're going to make and it wasn't prime this guy stuff so very very well done job
let me just start by saying that okay well i'm just going to sit here and soak in those compliments
so we don't have to talk about anything else but i think what you're actually complimenting
is that it was a normal interview chris that that's actually what it was it was a normal
interview it was a person running to be the president of the united states and for 25 minutes
We talked about their vision and we talked about policy and I think you just said it right there at the end of the day
It's a okay if you don't like her policies, right?
She made it very clear if you make over 400 grand a year next year when the per when the when the individual
Tax cuts expire. She's gonna raise your taxes
So if you are someone who just votes on that well, then you know what you're doing
You don't want to vote for her and and I think that it's just that we're so
So those tack, yo, this is a lie, dude.
She's just fucking lying to the American public.
The highest tax bracket in this country
are not going to actually see a tax hike.
The only tax hike that will happen
when the tax cuts expire
are for everything but the top margin, okay?
The corporate tax rate is permanent.
The corporate tax rate cut was permanent.
And so was the tax cut for the top margin.
Okay, everything beyond that, the under 400,
their taxes are actually slated to increase.
This is not necessarily a bad thing.
She wants to raise wealthy taxes though.
No, the fuck she's not gonna do that.
Okay, one, I have yet to hear an actual proposal
on how that is going to happen beyond some
of the aspects of how things are taxed.
But also, I don't think you're gonna pay your fair share of taxes.
That's such a funny fucking argument to make because I'm in the highest income bracket, dumbass.
And also, in terms of my like real taxes that I pay,
my effective tax rate due to the way that my revenue stream is structured
is literally higher than anyone else in my fucking tax bracket.
Because I live in California, and I'm pure income.
But having said that, however, given that I'm in the highest tags bracket, no, it's not going to actually increase.
Okay? And I don't have an issue with increasing that.
I'm actually, if you understand the words that I'm saying, the words that are coming out of my mouth, I'm mad because she's not going to be able to do that.
Oh my god. Some motherfuckers, I'm over here being like, yo, they're not increasing. They're
not actually going to be able to successfully increase the tax, the, the, the taxable income
of the highest earners in this country. And there is no like valid plan in play for that.
And this guy's like, yeah, you're going to pay your fair share, brother.
It's a weird situation where both major party candidates kind of got to say what
they're going to do to bring prices down, even though what everyone's reacting to is an issue
that is not that is a little bit in the past. You see what I'm saying? Like, so she's got
the price counting thing, which I thought was a good answer. But in some ways, it is
a little bit really talking about the real thing. It is a little bit in the past. And
listen, everybody is lots of people are angry that grocery stores have made so much money
and they shouldn't. And I'm not defending grocery stores, but we should remember
This is what's really fucking annoying about this process, by the way, no matter what, like,
given the tax bracket I'm in, Democrat or Republican, it doesn't fucking matter, okay?
It doesn't change my circumstances, okay?
It does not change my circumstances at all.
I am technically arguing against my best interest when I argue for the Democrats
to actually do progressive legislation because I understand that it is not about your short-term
financial relief or additional, you know, additional tax burdens being lifted, okay?
I think that there is a longer project that we must keep in mind in terms of building
a normal society, a healthy society, okay? It's stupid. It's dumb.
an issue that has the American people angry and the American people aren't addressing aren't aren't
Thinking about what you just mentioned, which is I gotta say
No, I don't I don't wish to interview Kamala Harris at all tim walz, maybe
But definitely I don't give a shit about interviewing Kamala Harris at all
There it's just never gonna happen. I'm far too adversarial for Kamala Harris's team to ever allow that to happen
Does it not just keep scaling up?
I would have thought there's more brackets for like CEO type roles above you.
What?
Wealth in this country for CEO types above me, in terms of real income, come from stock options.
And no, I am in the top tax bracket.
I love you Asan, but you're sometimes annoyingly adversarial.
What?
Yeah, sorry, the Megs Blanco 555, I'm annoyingly adversarial because I don't think that this
administration is communicating enough of a progressive message, nor are they genuinely
interested in communicating a progressive message at all.
There's sometimes a fucking moron and it pisses us off, what?
What the fuck is going on with chat right now?
What is happening?
Did you consider anything like the chat or not you, oh?
Oh my god, I love you a song but sometimes the political takes that make up 90% of your content. I hate but other than that heart
There's just so much going on with
The the awful instincts of the Kamala Harris campaign, which still is not going to I
Just want to repeat this for all the liberals, okay
More on a recent Harris campaign
By the way, this was fucking mark Cuban's insane
Narrative here. Why Mark Cuban believes Trump and Sanders have overlap in economic plans. You are a fucking brain-dead moron
operating as a campaign surrogate. You dumb
You dumbass you absolute fucking baboon. What the fuck is wrong with you?
This this
This paired up with Bernie Sanders coming out with a fucking email being like Kamala Harris is nowhere near as progressive as I am
Make no mistake, it's so stupid.
In call, you compared policy proposals made by Trump to those from independent Senator Bernie Sanders, who's a socialist.
What do you mean?
Oh, it was a race for socialism, right?
Bernie said that credit card companies should cap their rates, their interest rates at 15%.
Donald Trump, being the socialist that he is, had to beat Bernie.
So Donald Trump went out and recommended that interest rate caps be set to 10%
That I mean the fact that he's even suggesting price controls and price caps is socialism
101 I
Don't know if you know this
But you're fucking campaign that you're a surrogate for is also doing that
Like are you are you that dumb? Are you fucking stupid? You must be right
right? Kamala Harris literally has a policy out there in the books that is simply doing
that for grocery prices. Okay, they don't call it that because obviously Americans are too
stupid and too scared of such a reality. They're calling it, you know, going after price gouging.
But if you're going to fucking shit on price caps like this, acting as a surrogate
for the Kamala Harris campaign, while simultaneously besmirching socialism and calling Trump a socialist
like, what is going on man? Nobody thinks that the Republicans are behaving like socialists,
okay? If you think socialism is bad, then you automatically are like, well the Democrats
are doing a little bit of socialism or a lot of socialism depending on a fucking brain
broken you are, but ultimately you're just reiterating the position that socialism
is bad and therefore Democrats bad. I think Cuban is pointing out the hypocrisy from the
right. He's not shitting on the policy. He is shitting on the policy. He just said price
caps are socialism.
You haven't heard that from the vice president. You have heard that from Donald Trump. Well,
then how do you interpret what she's doing in terms of price gouging, taking on price
by food companies.
Oh, Jake Tapper, immediately.
Okay, there you go.
What do you mean?
You just said you fucking hate price gaps
while you're literally talking about acting
as a Kamala Harris surrogate.
There.
It's such a dumbass position to launch
as a fucking Kamala Harris surrogate
that even Jake Tapper was like,
what are you talking about?
Because a lot of critics have said
that that is a form of price control.
I'm glad you asked me that, Jake, because taking on price gouging is not price controls.
She's not saying what the price of tomatoes should be.
What she's saying is when there's a crisis, and there will be other crises, there'll
be hurricanes, there'll be tornadoes, there'll be floods, there'll be other disasters.
And when those disasters happen...
Yeah, it's already illegal.
The follow-up then is, well, okay, that's already illegal, so I guess it's not a new
policy.
She's not going to do anything then.
wants to be in a position to be able to say no you can't jack up those prices by 40%. Oh oh wait
are you saying that she's gonna institute I don't know some kind of cap she said you can't jack up
those prices oh as in she's gonna control prices you know put a cap on the prices
What a fucking idiot this guy is the Harris campaign needs to get Cuban out campaigning
for her.
How many will take the one and you have to stay within a particular realm, a particular
guideline and Mark Cuban is such a capitalist and why is he defending this position where
he thinks demand doesn't deserve the control.
Man doesn't deserve to control the price.
Not saying I agree, but this argument is so stupid.
I mean, because nobody fucking nobody is it depends on what his ambitions are.
If it's an industry that he is like invested in, then I'm sure he fucking wants to make
that argument.
But if it's something else, then, you know, he's going to be like, ah, you can have some
some controls.
And by the way, there are already 37 states that have similar guidelines.
All she's doing is saying, we're just going to make that a national law.
So that's certainly not price caps or price controls at all.
Donald Trump, on the other hand, is the king of price caps.
Why are you saying this about Donald Trump when price caps in terms of, uh, going against
price gouging is Kamala Harris's most popular policy.
If you guys, let me tell you about Kamala Harris's most popular policy.
First of all, it's very different than, uh, it's very different.
It's not like Bernie Sanders at all.
Bernie Sanders, one of the most popular, historically popular, uh, uh, Congress persons
of all time.
Trump is exactly like that guy.
Also on top of that, Kamala Harris's most popular policy.
Yeah.
Trump is doing that.
Trump wants to do that.
What is happening, man?
I just don't even fully understand what the fuck's happening here.
Let's say we're viable industrial policy, both as rhetoric, right?
We need, you know, redundancy and supply change.
something she talked about was steel. We need to bring manufacturing back and we're gonna use
policy levers to it. But that there is continuity there, right? Like that part of the Biden agenda,
which is a huge part of it, is also part of the Harris.
If the Republicans keep giving corporate tax cuts, why do they keep endorsing Democrats?
You mean corporations? First of all, more corporations still endorse the Republican party
than the Democratic Party. It's sector by sector. That's number one. Number two,
wealthy people endorse the Democratic Party because the Democratic Party has the exact
same interest in mind that the Republican Party has in terms of where to move the economy.
Make no mistake, they might say something when they're running for office, but what
they do when they actually end up winning office is very different.
So they already know that.
So they have that confidence already when they endorse the Democratic Party, partially
because Donald Trump is too chaotic and too much chaos might not necessarily contribute
to a growth economy.
So that volatility alone is one reason
why a lot of corporations who want some level of stability
will choose to defend the Democratic Party
over the Republican Party.
It's too much volatility is bad for business.
So that's the major reason why they go
with the Democratic Party when they do,
but even then there's plenty of fucking industries
that still are firmly in the tank
for the Republican Party.
If all institutions also lose legitimacy, then the American project falls apart.
If the American project falls apart, then we're going towards a capitalist dystopian
future where you can't eke out the same level of profits that normally would be able to
get under stability and institutional legitimacy.
Is it morally wrong for Georgia to be able to stay on the 2024 sidelines?
discuss. That's awesome. All right, let's see what Trump says.
Enemies are desperate to prevent Donald Trump from returning to the White House because they
know I will make America great again. They don't want that. Four years ago, our country
was feared and respected, and our country will soon be feared and respected again. We
have to have that. And that's why we all need to pull together to thwart these
His attempts and to bring back American strength, power, and prestige, we will soon have it back.
No threat will shake me.
No enemy will intimidate me.
And I have never been more determined than I am today, and I will never back down in
my fight to make America great again, which is what we're doing.
So I want to make that statement because we are under threat.
I have been threatened very directly,
and I appreciate the agencies that we've been meeting with,
but we've been threatened very directly by Iran.
And I think you have to let them know,
because the best way to do it is through
the Office of the President
that you do any attacks on former presidents
or candidates for president.
Your country gets blown to smithereens, as we say.
Forty-one days from now,
we are going to win the state of North Carolina.
We are going to defeat comrade Kamala Harris, and we are going to take back our country.
We're going to take your time.
All right, election day is less than 60.
Okay, I don't care about Senator Manchin.
Let's do Mr. Khaki Kornaki.
Did you see Kamala Mita McDonald's take talk?
I'm Kamala Harris, and today I'll be showing you my old John.
Wow.
Oh my god, she's pretty good. What the fuck?
It's a little bit too much Kardashian, but like
Loki that's not a bad impression. What the fuck?
Oh my god, oh my god
Why? She's so good. Okay, this part close your eyes and you'll be like that's not the
last location. No, but it's just one of three Americans will work on dogs at least once
in their life. Oh my God, bro, what the fuck this is. Okay, she be arrested for fucking
impersonating the presidential candidate. What the fuck is America. Okay. Yeah. Extra onion.
I like to cry. It smells like home. They have these when I when I work.
Under my rule, there'd be no more.
yo the body devil is still a work in progress yo she's so fucking good holy
shit that was incredible dude that's insane another impression of Kamala
here I am with Kamala by the way who I agreed to debate because I love to
debate and I'm a very good debate
that's very good what are my thoughts on immigration I think it's a
Perfectly fine. It's a very nice. We're gonna be doing a lot because there are people over there
No, after that last one you're cooked. I just I can't I can't see anything else
After her it's over. Oh my god
Like she's not even bad, but it it just got cooked because like she's this girl is so good
I love gay people
Let's just say how it wasn't all straight and narrow. Okay, I've had experience with myself
There's this one lady in college
We got along so well we would watch the L word and we listened to Tracy Chapman all the time that we stopped talking
But in that experience I learned the importance of the woman's touch and then we do not need no man
So dirty dog no man, so dirty dog
What the fuck yo what the fuck? It's so good. Oh
My god
This one was worse than the last one it is
The the this is like perfect. This one is actually perfect
Who is this sienna hubert toss
What I want more Kamala what the fuck's going on here or add a sienna hubert toss
She just got started on Kamala
A congresswoman intentionally implied that a Jewish state official in her agency, bro,
didn't you like try to do a course correction on this yesterday?
Why the fuck is he doubling down again?
Like, what is going on, man?
You think people don't understand what the fuck is happening here?
What, like, what?
What is going on?
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ADL is now accusing AOC of anti-Jewish buys because she pointed out that they and the
CNN promoted a fabricated coat, which they did.
It's just the fact.
Now, any criticism of ADL is considered anti-semitic.
ADL's watering down of anti-Semitism is actually dangerous for Jewish people. I mean, yeah, this sum up is saying non fucking stop
but yeah
ADL is so funny, dude. They're like
They're like, hey, I'm sorry if you say anything about Israel
If you say anything about Israel anti-Semitism if you say us if you say anything about us anti-Semitism
Okay, like virtually no one believes this bro. I don't think anyone looks at this
The only people that look at this and repeat it unconditionally are other media outlets that
still rely on ADL for their anti-Semitism database.
That's it.
Oh, Jeremy O'Harris was the one who was another Hassan Avi head in the news.
Duh.
No shit.
Of course.
Of course.
Oh yeah.
Jeremy O'Harris was the one who was, um, was, was talking about like winning over
the left on MSNBC. There are a lot of Zionist Americans, Jewish and
otherwise who do still believe the ADL and whatever else supports it.
No.
If you are in the progressive movement, okay, you have
completely fucking dropped the ADL at this point. All right.
It's just not like no serious progressive person believes the
ADL at all. Not people in the progressive movement. Okay, who the fuck outside of that gives a shit
about anti-Semitism? What are you talking about? What? You think like fucking random?
Yeah, dude, Steve Adors, you know, they're the ones who are like, well, I gotta go look at the
ADL to see what we're what they're thinking about anti-Semitism. Like, no, it's just
people who are relatively progressive to very progressive. Those are the people who are
like anti-Semitism is a problem and you know I care about this and I want to make sure that
it doesn't happen. Like who the fuck outside of that gives a shit. It's just simply a,
it's just basically just at that point it's simply a mechanism to bully people that are critical of
Israel. And the media will use it but that's pretty much it. Yeah, GreenBlood has time to
respond to it like this to AOC but had all he could offer for a Holocaust denying Black
Nazi was his retweet. Yeah, he didn't even, he didn't even put out his own personal statement
about Mark Robinson. He barely fucking, he barely, barely criticized Donald Trump when
Donald Trump was like, if I lose, it's the Jews fault. And he was like, um, sorry, sir,
but it's a scary time for Jews in America. And your statement is not okay. I expected
better. It's like, bro, what are you talking about? This is the Jews will not replace
president. So fuck do you mean you expect it better sir? Please don't be a little anti
Semitic. Greg Cesar, Greg Cazar confirms running to lead the house progress of caucus at the
rally next week with Bernie Sanders who founded the caucus in 1991. My fucking goat dude.
I love that. I love that. All I'm going to say is I did not get an interview with
premier Jayapal, but I did with Greg. But I mean, no disrespect to premier Jayapal.
I just think Greg is really good and, and I'm excited.
Yeah. Clay Higgins went full Nazi earlier. He said, hold on.
He said, these Haitians are wild.
Aiding pets. Vodoo. Nasty as country in the Western hemisphere.
to get the money back. I'm
going to get the money back.
Colts. Slapstick gangsters, but
damned if they don't feel all
sophisticated now, filing
charges against our president
VP. All these thugs better get
their mind right and their
ass out of our country before
I'm surprising that representative clay Higgins is a unrestricted unhinged unimaginable racist.
Who could have foreseen this?
Who could have thought that this was the case?
Um, well, I don't know.
Maybe this kind of shit is responsible for hundreds of violent crimes, murders, armed
We've arrested ten of these thugs and have warned us on seven more.
Every one of these animals is most definitely armed and dangerous.
Darren Carter, Aaron Carter, Travis Cooper, Cody Gidry,
Jaren Diggs, Kirkland Demichay, and Jonathan Landry.
We have felony warrants for your arrest.
You have to be responsible for your arrest.
We have felony warrants for your rest.
You will be hunted. You will be tracked.
And if you raise your weapon to a man like me,
we'll return fire with superior fire.
Darren Carter, you...
I love that it swaps.
Like in my head cannon,
he went and he changed his outfit quickly.
Like while he was talking.
Looks like you just never want a fair fight in your life
125 pound punk like you that's never want to fair fight in your life and hold
your gun sideways young man I'll meet you on solid ground anytime anywhere light
or heavy makes no difference to me you won't walk away look at you men like
us son we do dumbbell presses with weights bigger than you and the
convicts and jail most of those men are good people who just found
themselves crossed with the law they're not evil and they don't respect
you or any punk like you they'll toss you around like a rag doll. I encourage every citizen watching
this to look into your own heart and find the American courage that conquers all evil.
That's Clay Higgins. Is that real? Yes, brother. Clay Higgins is uh if you are okay hold on.
If you think that this is funny you haven't seen Mr. Clay Higgins.
at the Holocaust Memorial.
Okay? If you think that is shocking,
you haven't seen Mr. Clay Higgins at...
Except for this one's at Auschwitz.
Birkenau. The expansion of Auschwitz.
Where four more large gas chambers were built.
They murdered 2,000 people at a time.
on these rails rode those poor souls called in from all over Europe it says
many there's 20 25% I'm dying on the train it's just like how do you go why
are you glazing this guy he's not a good person you think I'm glazing this guy
are you fucking stupid I'm making fun of him okay he went he went to the he
went to Auschwitz. It was like down to bust out my phone camera and make a really compelling
video about the horrors of the Holocaust. Now, now there is this is like, it's just
so like, this is why I always say this is why I always say half of these problems will
be solved. If there was like half of these psychopaths would live way happier lives.
If there was an arts program funded at the national level, if there was like a federal
arts program that went in to the deep south, went into places like Louisiana and just
basically told these guys that they could be the theater kids that they want to be.
Okay, they straight out. This guy would have never become a cop. He would have just
been living with his fucking living in his polycule. Okay. We'd be living in an objectively
different world. He's just if I didn't know better, I would think this is a parody. It's
funny because he had to retract his Auschwitz video and apologize after criticism. Okay.
This is when he went with I think Trump, where he recorded a five minute video. And
On Wednesday afternoon, he apologized for it and he said,
I filmed the Auschwitz when message with great humility.
My intent was to offer a reverent homage to those who were murdered in
Auschwitz and to remember the world that Aval exists,
that free nations must remember and stand strong.
However, my messages cause pain to some whom I love and respect for that.
For that my own heart feels sorrow out of respect to any who may feel that my video posting was wrong or caused pain
I have retracted my video now. Let me tell you something. Okay, you think he's gonna have a statement like that about the Haitians
No
Fuck no
Anyway, the atrocities that happened in Auschwitz were truly
truly despicable, and we must never let history repeat itself in such a way.
I have always stood with Israel and all Jewish people, and I always will.
We live in a dangerous world, and massive forces of evil do indeed exist.
We must all stand united against those evils.
Anyway, he like deleted the video.
He literally got yelled at by the Auschwitz Memorial Auschwitz Museum because
chat
This video gets so much worse. Let's take a look. I'm the trip was seven eight ten days
And the food war
eventually
Those who survived the trip ended up here
On each right
Great sense of dread
Imagine being like a Jewish dude who's going to Auschwitz, okay?
On a trip to Auschwitz, they're just like, look at the horrifying nature of the Holocaust,
okay?
And you're over there, and you're trying to like, really just take it all in about
like the, the horrifying nature of these atrocities. Okay. And how serialized this was. And you
got this motherfucking potato head. Okay. Walking through the, the shoe pile being like, that's
right. Because of the hollow cause we must actually bathe up our national security.
you know. And yes, he did do that. He went into the ovens. He went into the gas chamber.
And that's where he actually delivers the riveting commentary that I just made, which
is that the Holocaust reminded him of why we have to beef up the Department of Homeland
security. Imagine Jonathan Glaser is filming the museum scene and this
motherfucker is just like man the Holocaust was bad no he would be like
the serialized death and destruction the mortality of it all it made me think
about tax cuts that we must give to the wealthy that this cut is perfect too
We're like the video maker windows movie maker cut right there Cyclone be actual
Cairns used to kill 1.1 million innocent civilians here in Auschwitz said it was
squeezed 700 people in here bro is filming and I repeat inside of the
gas chambers. He is blogging inside of the gas chambers, bro. This is, you know, this
is a Hassanabe like favorite. This is one of my favorite videos that any Republican has
ever filmed of all time. Okay. It is so insane, but it is so incredible that he
He put this together and he edited it and I know while he was editing it and his tongue
was sticking out of his mouth, he was like, mmmm, like, he was really trying to put this
shit together with his fucking potato ass thumbs.
The guards would drop Cyclone 5 cyanide gas from above to hatches.
These cyanide pellets activated when they hit oxygen.
After about 20 minutes, everyone was dead.
And then slave labor would go into the room and drag us, the bodies of those poor souls
out and bring them and incinerate them in these ovens.
There were three sets of ovens like that.
No, I'm not adding this music, bro. I don't know if he added it or if it plays automatically when you go to that display
This is why homeland security must be squared away
Yes, that come on come on come on come on come on come on come on dude. He's dude dude
dude
The weapons like that
This is why homeland security must be squared away
That's Kino
You can't make this up
okay you got this fucking potato headed dipshit inside of the ovens like inside
of the goddamn gas chamber at Auschwitz being like I'm filming this entire thing
and right now in this very moment the one thing on my mind is that we must
give more money to the Department of Homeland Security.
Why military must be invincible.
This is the suffocation cell, punishment cell for slave labor prisoners and filled in the
11 and all shoes. They would squeeze as many as 40 at a time man in here. Stand it up. Just
squeeze them in. It's a small one. And they close the door. A heavy, solid door.
Yeah, by the way, he's a Louisiana sheriff. You know his ass doesn't give a fuck about
slave labor and actually loves slave labor for the record. Let's let's be real for a second. Okay.
Mr. odd, I did slave labor until they ran out of air and died suffocating in that manner.
Sometimes it'd take two or three days. It also is hilariously so close to his face here too.
This is why. We must remember these things. Man's inhumanity to man.
I just wanted you to know that Anson Cooper just said you're talking point about how
migrants commit proportionalist crime in the citizens of America regarding
representative Higgins' deplorable comments and I hope you know your impact.
No, I don't think it's my impact.
You can be quite shocking. The world's a smaller place now than it was in World War II.
My final thoughts on this day.
I didn't come on, dude.
United States is more accessible to terror like this, horror like this.
It's hard to walk away from gas chambers and ovens without a very sober feeling of commitment, unwavering commitment to make damn sure.
that the United States of America is protected from yeah dude that's that's
the that's the lesson to get from never again I don't get it I saw all my
Israeli friends at the apex summit used the Holocaust for a justification and I
thought why not for America in the same way. I thought to myself, I forgot maybe it looks
a little weird when I do it directly at the death camp of Auschwitz. The evils of the
world. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. I forgot the last two photos, bro. Everyone posts your rare as
rep. Clay get representative clay Higgins find vintage Higgins filmed in the gas shapers
of azure woods and called for a strong police state. Dude, it's hilarious. Cause he's
like, we need a strong department of Homeland security so that we too can put the Mexicans
in the same predicament. Like, like you are directly advocating for the thing that you
are supposedly criticizing when you say that. Okay. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh, it's so good.
Higgins prayed about it and told Cian, he stands by his comments.
I heard about that on the floor just now as well. Clay Higgins is a dear friend of mine
and a colleague from Louisiana and a very frank and outspoken person. He's also a very
principled man. And I think he tweeted, I didn't even see it, but he tweeted something
today about Haitians and he was, he was, he was approached.
Oh, sorry, Mike. Oh, is it bothering you that you have to deal with these guys who don't
have your buttoned up approach who have the exact same opinion as you do, like exact same
opinion as you do. They're just too stupid not to hold that back. Oh, man. Oh God. Here
Here we go again. You fucking fascist freak. He's, he is just as freaky as Clay Higgins
is in the exact same like religious crystal fascist nut job way to the only difference
is he at least has the wherewithal to be a little bit more buttoned up about it. This
is a man who openly was like, yeah, me and my son, we keep tabs on each other's porn
consumption. Get the fuck out of here, dude. You can never tell me that this guy, this guy
is like a normal version. Okay. He's not. He is the same guy. Clay Higgins on the other
hand content demon. Okay. I much prefer clay Higgins with his unrestricted racism and his
a Mazan scene. Okay. That's the only difference. That's the only difference to him and Mike
Johnson is that Clay Higgins has the bravery and the courage to be able to strap a
a fucking vlogging iPhone directly to his potato looking head inside of the gas chambers
to offer us some keynote. He on the other hand has does not have the Riz. Okay. He does
not have the Riz. He is not an alter in the way that Clay Higgins is. That's it. He was
approached on the floor by colleagues who said that was offensive. He went to the
back. I just talked about it. He said he went to the back and he prayed about
it and he regretted it and he pulled it. Yeah, he prayed about it. Remember when Clay Higgins
also had that like that that psychotic episode and he tweeted out. Um, what was it? He tweeted
out about the woke blue sky or whatever. Dude, that was another fucking amazing clay
Higgins moment. What the fuck was it? Come on, you guys know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, the one who was like
You your gender non-binary Jesus won't save you in the woke blue sky. Hey, there's some shit. What was it?
Yeah, here here here you millennial leftists who never lived one day under nuclear threat can now
Replace reflect upon your woke sky
You made quite a non-binary fuss to save the world from
Intercontinental ballistic missiles. There was that and then he also had his like thing about his wife. That's funny
That is also clay Higgins
There was another thing about his wife in a dream. He like had some fucking psychotic out here
Here here here here my wife has the gift of
Premonition last night she dreamed that federal squads were in our home seizing guns knives on
Authorized foods and stored water
water. They said we had been reported. Becca awoke crying. What happened to our freedom?
She asked what indeed I wanted to pause there and reflect on the statement. Okay. I wanted
to have the weight of this statement stand on its own. Okay. It was beautiful. It was
fantastic it was play Higgins okay you already know baby that's my fucking goat
that's my goddamn goat I give you the most ridiculous cancel culture thing I've
ever seen in my life is the queen of nice really the queen of me
I was like, what is this, so unsure if you remember him, but fellow streamer and a role
player.
Oh, sob.
I spoke with my grandparents earlier and it seems the situation in Lebanon is worsening
and Village about 50 minutes away from them was hit by an airstrike forcing many people
to flee their homes.
My parents are helping refugees by providing shelter for those affected.
I can't shake the fear that any day I can receive a call saying they've been killed in
their strike.
I just want this conflict to end and for a ceasefire to take place.
Cancer culture, man.
She got a one minute full standing ovation at the end for saying I am strong.
Oh, God.
I think I was in a happier place when looking at Clay Higgins tweets.
Hold the post down.
That's what you want a gentleman to do.
I'm sure he probably regrets some of the language he used, but you know, we
move forward.
We believe it.
Why?
Why?
issue with the language 70 applause breaks who did they fucking pack the
crowd with dude who the fuck is that big of a Ellen DeGeneres ride or die monster
the woman who kidnapped a million kids no I'm not I'm not gonna watch that our
brother three voters okay I haven't even gotten to the chapel run part yet but
yeah let's do the Steve Kurnackie breakdown of the 270 while I go pee we
are just six weeks away from election day and with all of that the polls well
they can be hard to tell where the race stands but thankfully we've got Steve
Kronacki he is at the big board to help break down all of it. All right Steve
right now what are the numbers telling us? It's great to see you. You too Steph
and well let's take a look because there've been a lot coming out there in
the last couple days here. First of all you've probably seen these
headlines in the last couple days our own NBC poll had Kamala Harris ahead
by five. CBS had her up for CNN just this afternoon. Harris by one Quinnipiac today there
in a tie. So and there have been many others. So let's show you the average here. This is
the average of all the polls recently. All of them conducted post debate. Where does
that net out? It nets out on average to Harris by three points in the national horse race
right now. Now, of course, what we've seen in 16 and in 20 the last two elections
is that Donald Trump fell short in the national popular vote both times he won once
and he nearly won a second
time because of the Electoral College.
So what do things look like in the
seven core battleground states?
Looking at our pole averages in
the states right now and what
jumps out I think is a bit of a
North South divide. Look at where
you see the Harris blue here where
you see her best results.
Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania,
her three best results,
those three sort of big 10 states.
You got Nevada Harris leading in
a particularly volatile state with polling too, a little bit hard to nail down, but that's what we have there.
And then Trump strength right now, Georgia, Arizona, and a tie there in North Carolina.
But Trump doing on the whole in the polling a little bit better in the Sun Belt than he is in those Midwest states.
And of course, for Trump, the probably the situation is he's got to get like Georgia, Carolina.
He could then win with Pennsylvania. He could do something like the point for Trump is he's going to have to win
almost certainly one of those three big 10 states right now where Harris is
polling the best. Of course these are very close margins. Let's talk about this
because Politico is reporting that some Democrats justifiably are worried that
the Teamsters non endorsement of Harris was this warning sign that she's got
real work to do with working class voters. Despite the fact that so much
of what Joe Biden has delivered his legislative wins have delivered for
for blue collar workers.
So Steph, we just showed you Michigan,
Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and take a look.
Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,
these three states among the seven core battleground states
have the highest adult populations of white voters
without four year degrees, blue collar white voters.
And of course, we talk about this
as a core Trump constituency in 16 and in 20.
But another feature has been polling misses
among this group of voters, blue collar white voters,
particularly in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania,
both in 2016 and in 2020.
So keep that in mind.
That last graphic I showed you,
where Harris has her best poll average numbers
in those three states,
they're also the three states
that are sort of chock full of
that Trump friendly demographic
that has been underestimated,
under counted really in polling
in terms of his extent of its support for Trump
the last two times around.
If that happens again, those small Harris poll average leads in those states look a lot
different.
It's undercounted why, because people are voting for them, but they don't like to talk
about it because they don't want to deal with the headache.
Well, there's all sorts of theories about why pollsters have not been able to adequately
capture the segment.
It's a large segment, but the segment of the blue-collar white population that's
pro-Trump.
But one of the things that happens is you can get, you know, demographically
speaking, just in terms of being representative of the population as a whole, you could
get the correct number of blue-collar white voters in your poll, but there are still blue-collar
white voters who vote Democratic. There aren't as many who vote Republican in these states
or vote Trump in these states. And what ends up may end up happening in these polls is
they get more willingness from the Democratic side of that, the Democratic segment there,
to actually answer the phone and go through the poll process then on the Republican
side. A lot of different theories for why those Trump voters have been hard
to reach for pollsters, but it certainly seems that they have been.
It certainly seems that that's been the issue in the polling in those states.
What about the ceiling?
Because VP Harris still has areas where she can expand support.
But Trump, it seems like he's got a ceiling.
Is that the case?
Well, certainly, look, you know, talking about 46% or so, 47%, generally is what
people think, just based on the last two elections, though there have been
some polls where he's polled a little bit higher than that this time around.
One area to look at for Trump is he's shown some growth in the polls relative to 2020 and 2016
Among non-white voters now among black voters what you're looking at here
This is our average of all the different polls that are out there right now and on average
Trump sitting in the mid-teens there among black voters now again these numbers will bounce around from poll to poll
So it's a little bit hard to nail down
But we could say, historically speaking, if anything like this were to play out in the election,
15% for a Republican among black voters in the presidential election would be at the very high end of what we've seen in modern times.
And that, you know, it's small, but that could boost Trump in a state like Georgia, a state like North Carolina, a state with a large black population.
Just that kind of improvement from the mid-high single digits to the mid-teens.
And then among Hispanic voters, this was a very big story in 2020, of course.
Trump made big strides with Hispanic voters.
Well, again, you're looking at our average of all the polls right now among Hispanic voters.
Harris 54, Trump 41.
Again, if this were to be what actually played out in the election,
that would represent further progress, further growth for Trump among Hispanic voters.
You start thinking about in Arizona, Nevada, this would come into play,
though, certainly in Georgia as well, 10 percent Hispanic there.
So, again, this would represent growth for Trump.
We talk about, you know, is he locked in based on 16 and 20?
Here are two demographic groups, particularly Hispanics,
where he has shown some improvement from the last time around.
I don't know what to say.
There's two main categorical reasons why, but.
I think it's finally time, not for gaming.
And even if we did gaming, it would not be.
It would not be the gaming that you think we're going to be gaming.
It would be warhammer 40k the not woke game
But it's time for the kid one woke team survived 20 chose Porter's the jubilee
They are seeing a lot of the clips from this would be better than Trump the first category is character speaking of which
You know for bringing up stuff from the past. We can say she slept with Willie Brown broke up a family just to get her job
She got 4.5 million votes to get into AG and DA and stuff with zero of them
Okay
The one person that you said was the most important person.
Did you just say that she had to sleep with 4.5 million?
My name is Dean Withers. I'm a 19-year-old liberal.
I do political debate for a living.
Today, I'm surrounded by 20 Trump supporters.
My first claim is Donald Trump is a racist.
Yeah, so I don't understand how people get this idea that Trump is racist.
You know, my family came from a communist country.
They came from Cuba and they came from Mexico.
So I don't see anything or any statement that he's ever made
made. That's racist. I mean, there's things that there's accusations, but there's no facts
behind it. Yeah. And this whole idea that all Hispanics are illegal immigrants and they
came here and this, uh, for the record, that guy in the blue suit has a rigorous stalking.
Is he also like, uh, is he like, uh, like a Republican operative? Am I crazy documented
is not true because my family came here on both sides from through the legal legal
immigration process, not illegally here. Okay. So that was a bold claim. You just
said that there's no facts to substantiate the idea that Donald Trump is going to be a racist.
So in the 1970s, there's civil litigation held against him by the DOJ of the state of New York
for literally not renting to black people. What they did is they had said in quote,
unquote, testers to his rental properties at the time. They'd sent in a white person.
The white person would ask the property manager if they had any available properties to rent.
They'd say, yes, here we go. Here's housing application. And they'd send in a black tester
that asked the same question. And then they'd actually be denied. When this was
He's investigated by the DOJ.
The property manager told them that this was just a quote-a-quote order from the higher
up, from this boss, from Donald Trump.
And then they investigated Donald Trump, brought civil litigation against him.
And they essentially determined that, yeah, he wasn't renting to black people, in which
he then had a promise to the DOJ that he was no longer going to racially profile
in his housing application.
And even had to put ads in the New York newspaper, saying that he rents black people.
So what you're saying is basically he's not renting to black people, but yet
He employs a lot of minorities.
He employs a lot of blacks, Asians, Hispanics, onto his staff.
So why wouldn't he be renting to black people?
That doesn't make any sense.
Also, he's an example of racism.
But also is an example that the Department of Justice
is weaponized against people that do something in life.
Can you give me the evidence, then?
I'll give you evidence of that.
Yes, I will.
Because Trump was political for a very long time.
He made political statements.
He was very unpopular with a lot of Democrats.
He would say things that they didn't like,
and they would go after him.
that you would weaponize the Department of Justice
just like they are right now.
They're weaponizing the Department of Justice against him.
They're using the government for their political power
to go against him because they disagreed
with his political opinion.
That's what they do.
The Democrats have been going after him for years,
even considering he used to be a registered Democrat.
So I don't believe that Trump is racist whatsoever.
I don't see that because I see his employees.
I've been to a lot of his properties in the past,
and I know that he hires a lot of minorities,
So I don't believe that to be true.
OK, so your claim here is that, well, he actually
didn't do what the DOJ accused him
and held him liable for doing it.
Yeah, but the DOJ says a lot of things
that doesn't make it true.
I finished real quick.
So you're saying that the DOJ actually
was unfairly persecuting Donald Trump, a political opponent.
In the 70s, he wasn't running for any public office,
so I don't know why you'd say that was a political opponent.
But maybe we could look at a more intuitive example.
Well, he's made political statements in the 70s as well.
OK, yeah, OK.
So your claim is that, yeah, the DOJ
was unfairly persecuting him.
Do you have any evidence of that?
If you go back, do you have any evidence why the DOJ was investigating him in the first
place?
Yeah, because they got it.
No, there's no evidence.
Yeah, I actually do.
I mean, the DOJ has been an illegitimate organization for a very long time, so they make a lot
of statements, but it doesn't mean that they're going to actually, that they actually
go through with anything.
Nothing really happened at the end of the day.
It was just a witch hunt at the end of the day.
Okay.
Well, I mean, I don't think you have any evidence for the claim that it was
a witch hunt.
I think that at the end of the day, this is a conspiracy theory.
I think that Donald Trump has-
Conspiracy theory.
Can I finish real quick?
Thanks.
I think that at the end of the day, this is going to be a conspiracy theory.
I think that the DOJ does this, I'm sorry, that Donald Trump would perpetuate a lot of
conspiracy theories.
He did this with the outcome of the 2020 election.
But let's look at another example that's not coming from the DOJ or the criminal justice
system.
We're referencing 2012 through 2014.
Donald Trump said that because Barack Obama is black, he's obviously not a US-born citizen,
so therefore he obviously-
He did not say that he was black.
He's not a US-born citizen.
Well, let's talk about the birther movement.
Right?
So I just have a quick question.
to take there was legitimacy questioning his. Oh, damn, dude. So when they put up the flags
that for those of you who don't remember the rules, if they put up 11 flags, then he has
to get swapped out. But because I think Trump supporters are, I believe dumber than even
than commoners supporters are the the people are probably not going to throw up the flags
as fast birth certificate question is not a certificate what is the question his family
came from Kenya how's he running for Donald Trump's mother's a Scottish as a Scottish
immigrant should we question his birth certificate they came here through the legal process
he didn't come here through the legal process wait so you're saying that Obama's parents
were undocumented migrants which once again I just want to qualify this wall fight in
his presence I just want to answer a question would have to slide I want to ask a question
Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who I'm friends with, looked into the claims of that birth certificate
and there was questions of whether it was falsified.
So there was a falsification.
You believe that?
Yes, I do believe that.
Okay, so you were racist just like Donald Trump?
I'm not racist.
Oh wow, you're calling it Hispanic and a Cuban racist.
Oh my god, my man thought he deployed that shit.
He thought he had that shit locked the fuck down, dude.
Nice.
Wow, I can't believe you're calling a Cuban Latino man a racist.
How many seconds do I take?
Alright, so first of all, yes.
Another white liberal.
Alright, I'm sorry, were you guys left off?
Yeah, I think that hopefully we can slow things down a little bit here, have some productive conversations.
Yeah, how about I just start off by giving you my reasons why I think that Donald Trump is racist.
So with the last guy, we kind of touched on the civil litigation that was held against
him in the 1970s for not renting to black people.
But I want to focus upon a more intuitive example, proponent the idea that Barack Obama was
not a US-born citizen.
So first, I just want to ask you a very simple question.
What do you say trying to take away opportunity from a black man because he's black is racism?
Yeah, I mean, to be honest, yes, I do believe that.
But I think we also have to look into what the administration in office did, not
what happened back in 1970 when he wasn't even in office. It was complete
different administration making the rules. Okay. When he was in office, he gave
opportunity zones, gave funding and HBCUs. He also implemented the first step
act, which I feel like liberals really focus on like, Oh, our HBCU shit is
bullshit, dude. Every administration is funded HBCUs. And if I'm, I don't
I don't remember the exact details, but the Trump administration's funding and HBCUs was
not exactly, the Trump administration's HBCU funding wasn't exactly great either.
Prison system has a majority of African Americans in there.
So we gave them an opportunity to get out early to start a new life.
So I think if we're going to go back and look at some stuff of the 1970s, that's
It's not really fair because there's a lot of people on the Democrat side that have done
worse things while in office.
Joe Biden, who when he was a senator, pushed to get African Americans incarcerated at a
higher rate, like actions speak louder than words at the end of the day.
And what Trump did in office helped the black community at an exponential amount compared
to all the other administrations on the Democrat party.
Okay, so you said what he did in office helps African Americans more than other administrations
Yeah, you referenced historically historically black universities. Do you know how much funding he sent HBCs?
It's a decent amount a decent amount. I can't give you the exact exact amount was
250 million dollars per year. Okay, do you know how much Obama's administration and Biden's administration have sent?
I would like to hear Obama sent 1 billion a year and Biden sent 4 billion dollars a year
So not only did he decrease funding to historically black universities?
All right, but also you referenced the first step act there. How did Donald Trump influence the first step act in the past through Congress?
Well, how did he influence that bill through Congress?
It's that question for me because he didn't influence it
In fact, it was proposed to Congress under Obama's administration and it was shot down
So and then something else I did one day as president
He has the ability to sign or send a bill back to Congress. He signed it if he was truly racist
He would not have signed it in the first place. Okay, but at the end of the day
He's still signed it. He has that ability just like every president before they don't like a bill
They have the ability to send it right back to Congress and there's congressional means to get it passed without the president's approval
But still he signed it if he's really a racist why do you sign in the first place?
Yeah
Well, I don't think that we could just ignore Trump saying that Obama is in a US-born citizen and he's probably from Kenya
I don't think that we could ignore
You might finish here, sir.
I don't think that we could ignore the civil litigation against him in the 1970s for not
renting to black people.
I don't think we could ignore his recent comments about Kamala Harris saying that she turned
black implying that she wasn't black prior, just because he signed the first step back
into law.
Like, I understand that does do something for the African-American community, but I
don't think we could say because he did this one thing that all of these other
examples are null and void.
You also referenced Joe Biden there?
I have no problem saying that Joe Biden has a racist past.
In fact, I think that's something I need to recognize and we should all recognize but what I can't stand is when I hear people
Denying Trump's racism saying it never occurred when it's so obvious at the end of the day
What I'm trying to explain right now is that
Biden has
Signed bills into law voted for them that hurt the community. Trump has not done anything to that extent
Sure
He says some things were maybe a little bit if he way back you said you're saying things
for back in the 1970s that did not even have like that he couldn't even like
sign a law or anything like that because he wasn't even in office okay I guess
what I want to start with is looking at the actual word racist I think nowadays
it's a word that people throw around kind of like the word love it is a very
powerful word it has a lot of negative connotation it has a lot of power that
comes with it when I think of racist I think of Hitler who murdered millions
of Jews. When I think of racist, I think of the Ottoman Turks that murdered 1.5 million
of my people. I think of that. I don't think of Trump, who maybe he said things in the past
this or that. If we want to go about talking about saying things, Biden said Obama is one
of the first mainstream blacks to be bright and intelligent. He said that you can only
walk into a 7-11 if you have an Indian accent. He has said that if you vote
for Trump over him, you're not black. He said so many of these things in his
passed and it the prompt is talking about is Trump racist but to me it's not
about that because of how the media has displayed racism they just focus on
Trump and it is about both sides they don't touch upon Biden they don't talk
about Biden and when you look at his policies like my friend mentioned if
Trump was a racist he would not be passing policies he wouldn't even give
a dollar to these black universities if he truly had this it's an intention of
the heart and I'll go out and I'll step out and say I'm sure everybody here has
said something racist in their life that doesn't make you a racist it's kind of
like if you weigh 400 pounds and you eat celery you're not skinny all these
examples that you're talking about are from years and years ago what has he
done that's racist in the last maybe five ten years ten years ago 2014
Trump was actively proponent Brock Obama's brother meth the idea that he
was not born and you already said that example give me something new because that's
okay fine yeah sure I mean you're asking for some last five to ten years that was
ten years ago I thought that I just go over that again
the another reason why I wanted to go over that again with you is because how
of intuitively racist it is right denying are saying that a black man
should have less opportunity because the color of his skin is very obviously
racist when did he make that comment yeah so the the whole birther myth with
Barack Obama right essentially hope to achieve that he wasn't born in the
He was born in. I mean, there's also one of my favorite ones is when he said that a Mexican American judge, like an American judge of Mexican descent could not adequately legislate or could not adequately adjudicate over his court proceedings because he was Mexican.
Mexican. That was, I mean, dude, there's so much like Donald Trump's racism is so
such a target rich environment, you know? Yeah. And because he's not a US born citizen,
he shouldn't have the opportunity to run for US president. The only reason he said that is
because of the color of rock Obama's skin. But I would like to see it has he explicitly said
he said that specifically because he's black or you just taking that assumption. Okay,
so what what else? What explanation do we have here? I've said everything I need to say
I'm waiting on you okay, so I mean well yeah
I think that looking at Barack Obama saying that he was born in Africa and then even denying his birth certificate from Hawaii still like
Attributing his birth to Africa. I don't really see any other explanation apart from that besides the fact that Barack Obama's black skin
And then another example that's also a comment. That wasn't a racist action. That was a comment
He's okay what action has he taken part in the last five ten years that have been racist?
against, not even just blacks, against other races.
First, I don't think that we should call, like,
African-Americans, like, blacks.
I think that's a dehumanizing word.
But second of all...
That's your opinion, but...
Okay, okay, sorry.
Second of...
Second of all, right, even if we look at, like,
the last month or two, I'd say that's saying
Kamala Harris, right, quote, unquote,
turned black, implying that she wasn't black prior.
That's another racist comment.
We could also reference that to the day we...
Yeah, she plays with that.
One day she's Indian, one day she's black.
That's not true.
Hello.
Hello.
Howdy.
Very nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you as well.
So, you know, you're looking back at Donald Trump's history.
One thing I do want to say, I don't know if you are aware, Palm Beach didn't use to let
African Americans there.
Donald Trump sued the city of Palm Beach to allow black membership at Mar-a-Lago.
That is not racist.
I think one of the problems that we have, a lot on the left, every time there's a
disagreement we get thrown.
You're a racist, you're a sexist, you're this, you're that.
it dissolves the discussions that we should be having on policies. Secondly, Donald Trump
worked with Senator Scott to create opportunity zones in black communities. If he was truly
a racist, it's not something that he would do. So I think the whole premise is he's
a racist, he's a sexist, takes away from policy positions that we should be discussing.
If we go to the border and we talk about rapists and murderers, yeah, they are happening.
Lake and Riley is now dead.
We have 300,000 missing migrant children known sold into the sex trade per the last IG report.
These are important issues.
Our economy is important issues.
Do you mind if I ask you a question?
Absolutely.
Are you a U.S. born citizen?
100%.
You are statistically speaking four times more likely to commit a violent crime than
an undocumented migrant.
So when you kind of hurt your second one from half of that, they shouldn't be here.
Okay.
All right.
And my husband's an immigrant.
Okay.
Yeah.
But a legal immigrant.
Okay.
Wait, what?
Wait, what is she saying?
And he shouldn't be here?
Like what?
Oh, she said legal.
Okay.
My bad.
For a second, I thought, I thought she was just leaking, you know, like, yeah,
my husband is my husband is an illegal immigrant and he should not be in this
country you know what I mean came here legally I got a hundred Isis in our
country right now that was reported we've got gotaways we've got 10-day
jaraguas I've interviewed Oscar blue who's been through the Darien gap four
times people are dying okay so you're saying that we have a crisis out of
on the border. Well, I'm saying that you're saying that Donald Trump is racist. Donald Trump loves
America. Okay. Well, first of all, I want to put Americans first. I want to ask you one simple
question first, and maybe we could get back to the prompt. Do you think that we have a crisis
at the southern border today? 100%. So you'd say that we also had a crisis at the southern border
at the end of Trump's term because we have the same amount of daily crossings today. No,
we do not have. Yes, we have about 2,400 crossings today. Then as we have 14,000,
14,000 crossings a day.
The Biden-Harris administration put us back
into what's called the Global Compact of Migration.
They are now using an app where they use
our refugee resettlement program to fly people
into our country to different states.
So for you to say that the Trump administration
that had, did not have catch and release,
that is not, and Biden put it back in.
And then we also had Remain in Mexico,
which on day one of Biden's administration, he
is just raises a mental illness. I mean, yeah.
That's like 90% of
right wing commentary.
Most of what most of what holds the Republican right together is just that
wiped out because it was ineffective. I mean, we
Oh, it was very effective.
Do you mind if I talk real quick?
It's just propaganda.
It's what you've heard from CNN and MSNBC.
Actually, how about I provide you
a source that isn't CNN, isn't MSNBC?
And it's actually a source.
Yeah, by the way, she's talking about illegal immigration
being a problem.
But our examples are of legal immigration,
which includes her husband, which
is why a lot of these people play fast and lose
with the truth.
OK?
Like for her, she does not understand the fundamental reality
that the difference between a legal immigrant
and an illegal immigrant is just paperwork, okay?
And the difference between her and a legal
or illegal immigrant is simply the amount of time
that she has spent on US soil.
That's usually the difference
because at a certain point,
her family members came not from America, okay?
So obviously, this entire argument is fucking cooked.
This is precisely the reason why it is hilarious
and also openly fucking racist.
Whenever Republicans will be like,
I don't care that they're legally here.
It's because Kamala waved the wand.
That's what JD Van said, right?
That's what fucking JD Van said.
She met her husband, is a felon,
ain't no fucking way, wait, what?
God damn it, dude.
Oh my Lord, top of the hour streamer. Thanks, man.
Republicans have gotten way more comfortable with their narratives,
and that's why they usually, they now say these things.
That's why they now openly say these things like even legal immigrants
should be made illegal.
Because it's not, there's no real like economic reason or purpose
or anything like this.
It's just simply pure animus, pure racist hatred.
Okay. Speaking of pure hatred, the three-minute abrig is upon us. You guys cooked me. Here it is.
Source from Donald Trump's rally. So remember when Donald Trump got shot in his ear? What did he have behind him?
It was the chart that showed the lowest crossings in history.
You mind if I talk about that chart?
I have the chart.
Can we bring it out?
You have the chart with you?
Yeah, I do.
Bring the chart out.
Can you have me my purse somewhere?
Like you have like an actual picture of the chart.
I do.
Let's look at the chart. She is prepared. This is great.
By the way, this entire time she's been fucking
like saying some of the most insane unhinged shit. Okay.
Only two people have raised a red flag.
Like the quality control from Republicans against other Republicans.
This is like a more holistic approach to the subject matter here.
But I do find it really interesting because we watched the Charlie Kirk video,
which is a professional political pundit going up against like a bunch of
Tik Tokers at the most and just like random liberals at best, right?
And in that situation the way that other liberals that were waiting to fucking talk to Charlie Kirk
We're definitely trying to
Speak over one another we're flagging each other over and over again, right? Whereas like the conservatives
As long as you say the words it doesn't matter to them does that make sense?
As long as you say the words it doesn't really matter. They're not even they're letting her cook
They're letting her fucking sit there and say whatever the fuck she wants to doesn't matter if it sounds unhinged
It's because conservatives don't believe in debate. They understand they win by just not raising the fucking flag
Why do liberals think this can be done in good faith? They revel in bad faith. Yeah
You are also not going to hear a diversity of opinion on this, maybe a little bit, but not to the same degree as all the liberals that had so many different perspectives that they wanted to tackle the issue from.
It goes to show the ease in which it is to become a conservative spokesperson.
Make no mistake, this is not a targeted deliberate effort to instill
some kind of messaging discipline.
It is simply because the talking points rely on
pre-existing hurt and harm for the most part
and they almost always appeal
to the lowest common denominator.
They're dumb and the talking points are also dumb.
Do you understand?
Oh, it's on your phone.
I thought that you had like an actual.
Well, it's a picture.
We can hold it up to the camera if they wanna see it.
Okay, well, I mean,
Well, maybe we could just reference the data on that chart.
So you're referencing the remaining Mexico policy.
So that was one of Donald Trump's day ones.
He only had increasing border numbers
until the day he signed Title 42 into effect.
Year by year, they only increased
the remaining Mexico policy, the wall.
It was all incredibly ineffective border legislation.
He couldn't get Congress together to pass anything
so then he had to reprofit the country
to cancel the wall.
That's not true.
Congress passed HR2.
It's been sitting on Chuck Schumer's desk
since May of 2023.
It was the one bill that would secure the border.
Border patrol has endorsed President Trump.
Law enforcement has endorsed President Trump.
The Biden administration and the Harris administration
have failed this nation and they have allowed
this invasion of our country and Americans are dying
and sorry, these gang members should not be here.
I have a question.
So what do you say we had an undocumented migrant
that was like a felon.
So here's the situation.
Here's the problem also.
Like it takes no effort to just tell a lie,
but an untold amount of effort,
countless hours to tell the truth.
Correcting the record in these situations
is gonna be quite difficult to engage with,
especially in a quick manner, right?
It's difficult.
It's always, it's always a very difficult task, which is, you know, part of the problem
here as well.
A sexual abuser, right?
A violent offender that they shouldn't be allowed in the country.
100% none of these people should be without process.
Okay.
So my question to you would be, well, then why do you want a criminal felon sexual
abuser to run the country?
Because I believe that we're suffering from an extreme case of lawfare, which I can
And that bro, she was way too quick in retaliating to that.
Like she, that's shocking because I think he did a good job.
I think he did a good job with that line.
That was a bar, but she literally didn't even flinch dude.
She was like, yeah, I don't give a fuck.
Yeah.
He's a rapist and I love him.
He's my rapist like prove.
And you know, when you look at let's take for instance, the New York case, the one
that he's going to probably go to jail for even though he's not guilty the 34
felonies of that 34 felonies that they changed the statute of limitations in
order to prosecute him that they change your case is confused so they didn't
change any statute oh yes they did what's that I know you're referencing
if you'll just allow me yes they did just allow me but not only I just have
30 30 seconds well we only have 40 seconds left I just want to clarify
they didn't change you got the seat the whole time okay we have 35 seconds
left. What worse felonies for? Okay, so let's not talk about that. Let's talk about the plain
and simple fact that they moved the number three from by Biden's DOJ to a state case. Let's talk
about the fact that Mark Pomerance, who worked in the Biden administration, basically pled the
fifth six time when he said that he was talking to Bragg. And he would not talk about that.
Alvin Bragg ran on getting Trump. Let's talk about Judge Merchant's daughter Laura,
who's making millions for the Harris administration and the Biden administration right now in order
to prosecute Trump. That is recusal. It's going to get dropped at the Supreme Court.
Alvin Bragg should have recused himself. Judge Merchant should have recused himself.
I like the power. My next claim is Donald Trump doesn't care about the American people.
I completely disagree with- Wait, it's the same guy again? What is happening, bro?
Dude, God, conservatives are such a fucking unit.
Eric Adams is indicted?
Eric Adams is indicted following?
Oh my God, wait, no shot.
Bro, no fucking shot, no shot, no fucking way.
Istanbul of America, of America, New York, the Chicago of America.
Eric Adams, my name is Eric Adams, and I approve of this message.
I got to put the jacket back on Eric
Adams a retired police captain who was elected as New York City's
110th mayor nearly three years ago on a promise to reign in crime
Has been indicted
following a federal corruption
investigation people with knowledge of the matter set on Wednesday New York City
pre-chungal America we will free you amazing I mean that is amazing okay Nate
platinum it's probably foolish to think a New York City mayor will successfully
translate into being a national political figure but I still think Eric
Adams will be in my top five for who will be the next Democratic presidential
nominee after Joe Biden, his politic, his political instincts, unmatched, unparalleled,
ain't nobody, ain't nobody comes near him. Okay. Nobody. Incredible stuff. You said Adams
was a meme. I did. And I was right. I was right. I thought he was going to get blasted
for being in a polyamorous relationship with multiple girlfriends, but it turns out it was
so much better than that.
I said, I said, Eric Adams had the best mean potential.
I think it was in one of my prediction.
I mean, come on.
I know that New York City is the afters of America is the Istanbul of America is the
The key of America is the soul of America.
We are the killin' beat of America.
New York City is the Islamabad of America.
The Zabran of America.
We are the Lima of America.
New York City is Mexico City of America.
This is the Dublin of America, New York City.
Everyone knows that New York City is the afters of America.
Is the Istanbul of America.
He's the key of America.
It's the soul of America.
We are the Tel Aviv of America.
New York City is the Islamabad of America.
The Zabgram of America.
We are the Lima of America.
New York City is Mexico City of America.
This is the Dublin of America, New York City.
Everyone knows that-
There is just like this curse where
when you become the mayor of New York City,
what was my prediction for 2024?
Hold up.
See if I can find it. Goals and predictions. Trump doesn't go to jail. Mitch McConnell dies.
Jimmy Carter dies. Bill Clinton dies. Ukraine war gets one more final push, but in the absence
of interest ends with seeding ground to Russian annexation causing major rift in Ukraine,
putting Zelensky at Oswald's delusiony, you publish creating a relationship rift over
economy. China doesn't annex Taiwan. Irish unification 2024. US economy reaches soft
landing. Major Cybertruck recall. COVID shutdown nostalgia. Climate change.
ship seasons more lighter, new pandemic causing people to overreact even larger if new Nintendo
console switched to announce Eric Adams, polyamory Argus revealed alongside his criminal case
because he was using one of his concubines for his crimes.
Wait, wait, if the investigation finds that it was one of his side pieces is close,
but it's not a good enough is close.
i mean this is another classic eric and the new york state senator eric adams
and for twenty two years i wore a bulletproof vest please come and join me
inside my house
what i would like to show here is to empower parents on how to search
a room
wait what else did i call
we find out kevin mccarthy does indeed fuck like for sure
mtg normal politician are or rather the party becomes more like her lobo is
the opposite yeah i mean that's another lock
There's some in here that are not correct. I mean,
I got the Ukraine war gets one more final push. That was correct.
And the absence of interest we'll see.
I don't think there's going to be seeding ground to the Russian annexation,
causing major rift in Ukraine.
You would be so much more accurate if you didn't have qualifiers to your
predictions. Yeah. I should have just kept it short and simple.
US economy reaches soft landing is correct.
Major cyber recall, uh, subject recall already happened. Climate change is obviously also
shifting seasons more. Uh, lighter new pandemic causes people to overreact, even larger rift.
I guess monkeypox, but not necessarily. A beloved celebrity gets invested openly right
when content is extremely online in a shocking way that's happened way too many times
for it to be like even a normal fucking prediction. Major Cybertruck recall, didn't they just fix
it with a gromit? It doesn't matter. They did a full blown Cybertruck recall.
Switch to prediction is gone unless you meant it being revealed. Yes, I meant it being revealed.
I guess like there was a new Nintendo console, but it wasn't. You could argue, oh no, no,
the Marjorie Taylor Green was a lock. Marjorie Taylor Green, normal politician arc, or
or rather the party becomes more like her,
Lobo is the opposite, is completely correct.
That is definitely something that happened.
Didn't you predict the Kamala takeover too?
Yeah, but that's like after,
this was in the beginning of the year
when I made these predictions.
I still think that Nintendo Switch 2 might be leaked,
or not leaked, but,
but yeah, Eric Adams, we find out.
Eric Adams' polyamory argus revealed alongside
his criminal case because he was using
one of his concubines for crimes.
No, that leak was bullshit.
No, I meant switch to will be revealed.
He ain't do nothing wrong, just an Albanian man
trying to make it in the concrete jungle.
Yeah.
New York, the coast of all of America.
Switch to.