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07-21-2024 · 8h 57m

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[00:00:00] 🎵 um I don't know. so so.
[00:01:02] .. I All your secrets, promise you honestly I
[00:01:29] Wouldn't use them against you unless
[00:01:32] I thought it'd be fun
[00:01:35] So I sit at home alone in your t-shirt
[00:01:40] i'm wondering where it went from
[00:01:44] when you always said it
[00:01:46] how do you like me better than anyone
[00:01:49] we can not, we We cannot, we cannot talk
[00:01:51] We cannot just
[00:01:53] trouble dust it off
[00:01:55] the rest of thought cause
[00:01:57] I cannot pretend
[00:01:59] I'm your friend I'm nothing I don't feel right.
[00:02:20] I don't feel bad I don't feel anything is so so ready set go so so
[00:03:43] is She lived with us.
[00:03:49] We used to count her delivery time only
[00:03:52] We'd just count memories
[00:03:57] We invented new ideas And if we wanted to,
[00:03:59] we would turn them into myths
[00:04:01] We used to think of it as a mother
[00:04:03] and her friend
[00:04:05] and the evening
[00:04:07] But we used to see a world world no one else sees.
[00:04:14] A big world that lives in us,
[00:04:17] the world of enthusiasm that takes you there every time. The dream is harder but it doesn't matter foreign..
[00:04:42] . We'll be right back. so ¶¶ Hey everybody, welcome to another roundtable I am SirAxiousLex here with Insania and Boxy on Team Liquid so good for you guys to join us here today. Welcome to the
[00:05:45] podcasty thing where we don't talk about Dota. So thank you,
[00:05:49] thank you my friend. What have you been doing outside of Dota?
[00:05:52] Mr. Boxie
[00:05:56] I mean, I can tell you what I do
[00:05:58] Okay let me just tell you
[00:05:59] The last two weeks
[00:06:00] I've been at bootcamp
[00:06:01] Playing Dota
[00:06:02] What is that like?
[00:06:03] And then before that
[00:06:04] Yeah
[00:06:05] I'm just playing Doro.
[00:06:06] You wake up, you play Doro,
[00:06:07] you eat, you sleep, and go to bed.
[00:06:08] How many hours per day?
[00:06:10] Too many.
[00:06:11] Too many!
[00:06:12] And also not enough.
[00:06:13] But before that it's like too long ago
[00:06:14] so I don't remember.
[00:06:16] What?! I can tell you what I did though okay well I
[00:06:17] went camping for the first time since that was like a kid yeah so neither my
[00:06:23] girlfriend or I are like big camper type people no we're not the camper type people, you know? OK. Flexing. Flexing.
[00:06:27] No problem.
[00:06:28] We're not the camper-type people.
[00:06:30] No, but you have a girlfriend that's flexing.
[00:06:31] That's not flexing!
[00:06:31] I don't know how that's like.
[00:06:32] I'm trying to set up the set for something.
[00:06:34] Just continue.
[00:06:34] Continue.
[00:06:35] And we're flexing for depressed people.
[00:06:37] So that's not a very good thing. And like flexing for depressed people.
[00:06:42] I have no idea how that's flexing, but anyway...
[00:06:45] Someone loves me! That's flexing bro you need to flex!
[00:06:48] Did you have a girlfriend?
[00:06:50] That's not flexing!
[00:06:51] I thought you meant the capping part is the flexing.
[00:06:54] You don't go capping.
[00:06:56] Let's just continue.
[00:07:00] I'm in love.
[00:07:01] That's flexing, bro.
[00:07:02] Don't say that.
[00:07:04] Anyway, so we decided to go camping.
[00:07:06] Yes.
[00:07:09] In like a tent? In like a tent and like attempt that's great so we
[00:07:11] like bought like the cheapest tent oh no and it was like one of those you
[00:07:14] just like pull it out of the bag and it just pops up
[00:07:16] yeah all this sticks what are they talking about it's like a pop-up them
[00:07:20] what yeah okay so it's like inner? It's like a pop-up then. What?
[00:07:20] Yeah, those were real things.
[00:07:21] OK, so it's in a circle.
[00:07:22] It's like those where you're like
[00:07:24] You know when you order at a festival?
[00:07:25] When you spin the hook and bolt and screwing soaps.
[00:07:28] No, no, no, you unzip like a thing,
[00:07:29] you pull your hand out, and then you take off
[00:07:32] the string that's
[00:07:33] holding it all together,
[00:07:34] and then it literally
[00:07:35] pops up.
[00:07:35] So how do you repackage it?
[00:07:37] It has a way
[00:07:37] that you package it down.
[00:07:38] I can show you later.
[00:07:39] You leave it in there.
[00:07:40] It's kind of
[00:07:40] a genius design.
[00:07:41] The bears take it.
[00:07:43] They live, they raise their families there.
[00:07:45] Okay, yes.
[00:07:46] So you know like normally I assume experienced campers look up the weather and figure out all this stuff.
[00:07:51] We didn't do any of that.
[00:07:52] We just sat in the car
[00:07:52] put all the stuff in the back drove at some point we like call up the camping place or
[00:07:56] like can you guys hold it called a camping place yeah like we called like a camping uh
[00:08:01] we didn't camp in the woods i feel feel like you're going to a hotel.
[00:08:04] No, it's like a camping place!
[00:08:08] Don't listen to this.
[00:08:09] If you go to a public park
[00:08:10] You have to tell people where you are going?
[00:08:12] Not as well.
[00:08:15] Wait what? You pay for a... tell people you're going no no okay okay you like pay somewhere to go to like a camping place i mean last time i went camping
[00:08:18] you just me and my friends just went into the woods near a trail
[00:08:22] i didn't bring a sleeping bag i I almost died from freezing to death,
[00:08:26] and we were just camping.
[00:08:28] They didn't call anyone.
[00:08:29] There was like a German guy with his kid
[00:08:30] waking me up in the morning.
[00:08:32] He was like hello!
[00:08:34] And then I was like, hello.
[00:08:36] That was your camping experience?
[00:08:36] Yeah.
[00:08:38] He had a really big RV, that guy.
[00:08:38] Who is the German?
[00:08:40] There was actually... So the camping car did go to...
[00:08:41] It was legit only Germans.
[00:08:44] Okay.
[00:08:44] Every license plate on every RV was like it had
[00:08:46] a German license.
[00:08:48] Sure there's a lot of
[00:08:48] German or there's
[00:08:49] a lot to unpack here
[00:08:50] but let's continue with
[00:08:51] your story first.
[00:08:53] I don't know you called
[00:08:54] the camping place
[00:08:55] when they call
[00:08:55] the camping place
[00:08:56] and they put up your tent,
[00:08:57] like made you dinner.
[00:08:58] Oh my God, dude.
[00:08:59] I can't...
[00:09:00] This is mockery of like-
[00:09:02] No!
[00:09:03] What it is?
[00:09:04] So we went to the camping place,
[00:09:05] We set up our tents and it like Sweden in the middle of summer.
[00:09:09] So the sun is up and it's 1 AM.
[00:09:13] We go to sleep.
[00:09:15] It's pretty nice.
[00:09:15] We bought these air mattresses that we got from my parents and they're like
[00:09:19] my mom told me like one of them leaks we don't know which one but one of the weeks
[00:09:25] it's like about three hours after like after we fall asleep.
[00:09:28] I can feel like the ground on my back.
[00:09:30] Oh no!
[00:09:31] And it's like there is zero air left.
[00:09:33] Oh no!
[00:09:34] My girlfriend is in the car because she is freezing too much.
[00:09:37] She is in the car?
[00:09:38] She has put on like the heater
[00:09:40] In a car?
[00:09:42] It's not like dangerous
[00:09:44] You didn't mention that, so it was raining
[00:09:46] It started raining at some point
[00:09:48] Did you call the camping people?
[00:09:51] I would have!
[00:09:53] The AC is not working as it supposed to be.
[00:09:55] This camping experience is not up
[00:09:57] to par.
[00:09:59] It says five star camping on the website, but this is not the weather we booked.
[00:10:02] We booked sunshine the entire way.
[00:10:04] So it's just a location that they keep track of,
[00:10:07] but there's no one else there?
[00:10:09] Let's finish the story first, what happened?
[00:10:11] There is no story, you just asked me
[00:10:13] what I did and this is what I did.
[00:10:14] Well so she was in the car-
[00:10:15] That's a good story.
[00:10:16] But how did it end?
[00:10:17] How did it end?
[00:10:18] It ended with us packing up our stuff
[00:10:20] and then leaving.
[00:10:21] So they went to shit? no like we stayed the night okay
[00:10:24] when you woke up you had a nice breakfast we woke up we sat in the car we drove did you stop
[00:10:30] stopping mcdonald's on the way no okay so we actually learned that
[00:10:33] if you go to norwegian gas stations yeah the hot dogs they serve are way nicer
[00:10:38] than the swedish ones and i never thought i would say anything good about
[00:10:41] norway ever in my life wow that that came out of nowhere that's a left field
[00:10:45] one what's wrong with norway but this is like it's just like it's really like banter you know like
[00:10:49] okay sure sure all right that's a lot to unpack uh congrats i hope you had a lot of fun
[00:10:55] it sounded not funny i enjoyed camping okay
[00:11:01] better camping trip than the one i did i mean i've done that camp back on a
[00:11:05] capping trip too but i feel like there's like a lot of
[00:11:09] like camping places yeah is that that's the thing in the
[00:11:11] u.s for sure it's no a camping place in my mind, there's like a fire...
[00:11:17] Have you never been to a camping place?
[00:11:19] Yes but there are not other people there.
[00:11:21] No but it can't be like a college.
[00:11:24] You literally just drive into the wilderness and set up.
[00:11:27] That is one way to do it,
[00:11:28] And then there's places in the wilderness that are like
[00:11:32] take care of this area where people set up their tents.
[00:11:35] There's a bathroom in the middle of like the place.
[00:11:37] That's like a commune.
[00:11:38] There's like a bunch of tents setting around.
[00:11:41] Like you can go pay like 10 bucks to go there.
[00:11:43] You pay them to go?
[00:11:44] To sit in the grass?
[00:11:45] They were like mow the lawn and everything.
[00:11:47] What?
[00:11:48] Is this what you're talking about?
[00:11:49] None of this is real.
[00:11:50] I think it just went on Airbnb.
[00:11:51] Yeah.
[00:11:52] I think he got scammed.
[00:11:53] I'm being professionally gaslit.
[00:11:54] I mean, not being professionally gaslit.
[00:11:56] All good.
[00:11:57] I do remember what I did now on my brick oh i tried out like
[00:12:03] i can't say it what no but it's like uh it's not good. Not good for me,
[00:12:09] not good for you. I went on a
[00:12:11] bicycle and it ended great.
[00:12:13] Okay!
[00:12:15] Move on. Ask me something else.
[00:12:17] Whatever that dark disturbing tale was... That means something you don't want to know.
[00:12:20] I don't want to know anything! Okay, you got it. Why were there so many
[00:12:24] Germans on your camping trip? Because Germany has a
[00:12:28] much higher population than Sweden,
[00:12:31] on the much smaller area.
[00:12:33] So when they want to go and like hike or
[00:12:35] buy a summer house or something
[00:12:37] They go to Sweden or Norway or something
[00:12:39] Same with the Dutch.
[00:12:40] Sure!
[00:12:41] Because they're concentrated
[00:12:42] and Sweden has a lot of area.
[00:12:45] Okay, thank you!
[00:12:46] And nice nature I guess.
[00:12:48] Alright.
[00:12:49] If two were stuck in like a wilderness survival scenario...
[00:12:54] Boxy.
[00:12:55] Who would you eat first?
[00:12:57] Yeah, okay, we've had this question on our team.
[00:12:59] Sure.
[00:12:59] Like who would survive the longest?
[00:13:01] Yeah, yeah. And what I feel like most people don't know about boxy is
[00:13:05] he would live like forever if like the thing is i don't know like i will look at a plant
[00:13:10] and i would be like is this like the most common plant in sweden or
[00:13:14] is it like a rare toxic plant and either no that might
[00:13:17] be the case unless there's a blueberry but i feel
[00:13:18] like okay or like a strawberry i would just die
[00:13:21] i think that's not true. I don't know.
[00:13:23] I think you would fight your way to survival, like if a bear attacked...
[00:13:25] Yeah.
[00:13:26] You'd look at William and be like he is pretty big and strong.
[00:13:29] He'd be scared so he'd die.
[00:13:31] Voxie would befriend the bear.
[00:13:33] But William does... I feel like he doesn't do well with physical altercations.
[00:13:38] Sure.
[00:13:40] Every time I punch him, he's like, ouch!
[00:13:42] Aslan does.
[00:13:44] He'd probably throw someone into the bear's path
[00:13:46] while he's running i i he'd already like set up a deal with three other people on
[00:13:49] the team and like we're sacrificing aidan yeah before yeah there's not even a danger yet
[00:13:53] he's like scheming behind everyone
[00:13:55] he's that guy boxy is like the guy who just run off into the woods like somehow
[00:13:58] create his own house yeah like have like these animals that
[00:14:01] like live alongside him i could see that he is that
[00:14:04] guy when i was eight we did learn how to make like a wind I could see that. He is that guy. Yeah.
[00:14:06] When I was eight, we did learn how to make like a wind...
[00:14:08] Were you scout?
[00:14:09] Little wind.
[00:14:10] No, that wasn't school.
[00:14:11] Like mandatory training.
[00:14:12] I wasn't a scout.
[00:14:13] You made what?
[00:14:14] A wind...?
[00:14:15] Like a wind shelter.
[00:14:16] Wind shelter. You take a bunch of sticks you put them on the side
[00:14:18] you put a little tarp it means it's like dry a wind shelter i mean you don't know what this is
[00:14:24] it's like sticks and a tarp isn't that like a house or no you just like so if you told someone
[00:14:30] you bought a house and then showed them the pictures
[00:14:34] no it's like yeah if it starts raining and you don't want to be wet
[00:14:40] you build up like a little camp, you know? Yeah! Like a little wooden tent. A little wooden tent yes. Wow Sweden's crazy man.
[00:14:45] Just the curriculum. This is wild man. Have you ever gone penguin sledding?
[00:14:48] What is that?
[00:14:49] Like you hop on the back of a penguin and then you go down like slides.
[00:14:53] In Dota?
[00:14:54] No.
[00:14:55] Yeah.
[00:14:56] Like what do you mean?
[00:14:57] Like in Sweden.
[00:14:58] With a physical penguin?
[00:14:59] Yeah!
[00:15:00] A real penguin?
[00:15:01] And screaming all the time?
[00:15:02] There's like a place in Stockholm.
[00:15:03] No, they're really friendly.
[00:15:04] You don't go on a-
[00:15:05] It's like riding a horse.
[00:15:06] Why are you turning gas light me?
[00:15:07] But it's like a penguin.
[00:15:08] This is insane.
[00:15:09] Okay next time you come for Dream League
[00:15:10] and we're knocked out on the group stage...
[00:15:12] I'm not going to get gaslit by you
[00:15:13] about a giant penguin slaying.
[00:15:14] That is the stupidest thing ever.
[00:15:15] It's not giant.
[00:15:15] They're small.
[00:15:16] You crushed the penguins.
[00:15:19] A little baited penguin. No, it's fine. You don't want that little bit down there!
[00:15:20] No, it's fine.
[00:15:21] Have you seen the inside of a penguin's mouth?
[00:15:24] It's like 1000 daggers!
[00:15:27] They're friendly penguins.
[00:15:29] If I sat on a penguin, it would definitely be grabbing at the first thing it could. But they at the dirt. They won't let you go who could initially says no
[00:15:35] Body is not big enough to support
[00:15:37] I'm not gonna be gaslit by this little unbelievable stupid thing
[00:15:40] Okay, if I told your son about this would he not want to go
[00:15:43] he's an idiot he's like three he doesn't know anything if i told him pokemon exists
[00:15:47] you'd be like oh yeah and believes anything are we mean, that's good. Are we done?
[00:15:52] Well, this is the last one.
[00:15:54] Anyways, thank you guys
[00:15:55] for watching the podcast
[00:15:56] with Team Wicked.
[00:15:56] No, don't cut out my own thing.
[00:15:57] I haven't gotten
[00:15:58] my hand signals yet.
[00:15:59] I'm sorry.
[00:15:59] So are you guys
[00:16:00] going to go on
[00:16:01] any re-out adventures?
[00:16:05] Did you go last time? We went go-karting the first time go-karting that's I saw in the pamphlet you can go hiking hiking from like 8 to 15
[00:16:10] during the day like a 6 hour hike you do really yeah
[00:16:14] you would go out american eagle knows about how much i love hiking
[00:16:18] what's that in reference to it? I didn't add once. You didn't add for American Eagle?
[00:16:22] They needed someone to have have an interest wow you know the little players though
[00:16:28] so joey are like content guy for liquid he's like aiden there's only one person
[00:16:34] i believe that could pull this off.
[00:16:36] So yeah i went hiking and nature photography
[00:16:39] in jeans and then they're filming me while
[00:16:43] That's cool! Did it work out?
[00:16:46] No, I think the video has like 200 views now
[00:16:48] and it's unlisted now.
[00:16:50] But you got some genes.
[00:16:52] Yeah, so it worked out.
[00:16:53] For me it was great.
[00:16:55] That was the best five hours of my life i mean
[00:16:57] i keep telling nikko that we should do more outdoor stuff i like i want to go snowboarding
[00:17:01] in the alps yeah i'm trying to get like the whole team to go sure and then they're like
[00:17:05] what if you break i've heard of heard of Michael Schumacher? No.
[00:17:07] Do you know who he is?
[00:17:08] Michael Shoehofer?
[00:17:09] Schumacher.
[00:17:10] No.
[00:17:11] It's a driver.
[00:17:12] Driver.
[00:17:13] Is he like a Formula One dude?
[00:17:14] Yeah.
[00:17:15] Did he like...
[00:17:16] He went skiing and broke his arm?
[00:17:17] He's in a coma now basically. That's dark! Okay great well thank
[00:17:20] you guys so much I sure hope this video gets more than 200 views, and you were not in a
[00:17:25] coma after witnessing it. Thank you, Team Liquid!
[00:17:28] Always a pleasure! We'll see more of you guys at the
[00:17:31] Riyadh Masters. Thanks for watching.
[00:17:43] Hello? Hello, I'm here with Team Falcons. What are you up to? We're doing media right now today. Do you up to?
[00:17:50] We're doing media right now today.
[00:17:52] Do you like doing media?
[00:17:54] Amar loves it.
[00:17:55] I'm gonna go see Amar.
[00:17:58] I didn't see you over there.
[00:18:00] Hey, how's it going man?
[00:18:02] Say that again
[00:18:04] Hello, I'm good
[00:18:05] Do you like media day?
[00:18:07] Yes, I actually do
[00:18:09] Why did he say it sarcastically, like you don't like Media Day? You answer for him.
[00:18:14] He actually does love Media Day. Every time we don't want to do something, I'm always just there.
[00:18:20] Okay now can you answer but say the truth?
[00:18:24] I actually do like me this. It's a truth!
[00:18:28] Why is it that your whole team is lying about this?
[00:18:31] Because they must too or they're gonna get punishment for it I don't know
[00:18:37] what I'm supposed to go don't look don't look you're ruining it I was behind you.
[00:18:44] Hello? You ruined it by reacting to it before
[00:18:48] I came out. Sorry... Cause you were a talent
[00:18:52] before, so you should know to not mess up the queue.
[00:18:58] Can I see your YouTube recommendations?
[00:19:03] Uhh... uh
[00:19:09] yeah keep scrolling past the ads we can't show that
[00:19:11] what is this?
[00:19:13] Mr. Beast on meeting Kim Kardashian
[00:19:16] keep scrolling
[00:19:18] uh
[00:19:20] Mr. Ballin
[00:19:22] wait wait
[00:19:24] go up to the criminal thing
[00:19:26] this no no down a little bit more
[00:19:29] oh yeah the hunt for europe's most
[00:19:31] wanted criminal do you watch these like
[00:19:33] serial killer things on uh
[00:19:35] this guy this guy is like a murder mystery guy and he's just a good storyteller.
[00:19:39] And I guess it got recommended because of Mr. Bolin.
[00:19:43] Is there, like, ghosts in stuff or is that real life?
[00:19:46] Sometimes it's supernatural.
[00:19:49] Yeah.
[00:19:50] Do you believe in the supernatural?
[00:19:53] Um,
[00:19:54] I wouldn't say so.
[00:19:56] But you still like it?
[00:19:59] Do you kind of wish that it was real,
[00:20:01] because it would make the world a magical mystical place?
[00:20:03] No.
[00:20:05] I like fantasy but I wouldn't want it to be real.
[00:20:07] If I could bring you to the most haunted house
[00:20:09] in Saudi Arabia, would you go?
[00:20:12] No!
[00:20:14] Would you be afraid?
[00:20:16] Yes! How do you not believe
[00:20:17] in supernatural stuff? Would you be afraid of going to the most haunted house in Saudi Arabia?
[00:20:20] I mean, just the way you put it is the most haunted house.
[00:20:23] It just sounds scary.
[00:20:26] Don't want to go there.
[00:20:28] I don't have a house for you.
[00:20:29] I'm sorry if I was implying that but... I don't want to go there. I don't have a house for you.
[00:20:30] I'm sorry if I was implying that, but...
[00:20:32] Do you believe in the supernatural?
[00:20:33] No.
[00:20:35] Well then how is it possible
[00:20:36] that you won two TIs
[00:20:38] and now you're on the best team
[00:20:39] despite being a complete fraud.
[00:20:45] Ladies and gentlemen, this has been an interview with Team Falcons.
[00:20:47] Thank you, gentlemen for taking the time.
[00:20:49] I'll let you get back to hiding in the corner away from the
[00:20:52] rest of your team and they'll be back to you cut this in you're just saying that you think
[00:20:58] I can beat Skeeter in a planking competition. Why?
[00:21:03] I don't know,
[00:21:04] I don't think he gets the vibe
[00:21:05] that he can beat you
[00:21:06] in a plank
[00:21:08] He's got pretty ripped abs though dude
[00:21:09] have you seen him?
[00:21:11] Really?
[00:21:12] I challenge you...
[00:21:14] Anytime, anywhere.
[00:21:16] ...to a planking competition. I didn't say what it was.
[00:21:17] I don't care.
[00:21:18] Okay, do you want to do a planking competition?
[00:21:20] Sure.
[00:21:21] How are you going to make it fair?
[00:21:22] I'm gonna be sitting on him. You gotta make it fair, you know, Skidder, zap's not the
[00:21:26] best.
[00:21:27] Who is sitting on skidder then?
[00:21:29] Five pound dumbbell.
[00:21:31] Okay let's do a competition between men.
[00:21:35] Somebody has got to time us.
[00:21:37] Do your stretches.
[00:21:39] Your flexibility seems pretty decent actually.
[00:21:42] Yeah it is okay.
[00:21:43] I have been training for this my whole life.
[00:21:45] Snake King you're gonna...you can record.
[00:21:49] Am I the coach?
[00:21:51] You are the host now.
[00:21:53] Oh! I have been promoted.
[00:21:58] Kick in the floor first Snake King. host I've been promoted check the form start planking dog your ass down skater
[00:22:03] you asked too high I guess let the games begin
[00:22:10] all right Jenkins where am i gonna be able to sit on you sorry can't sit on
[00:22:15] you know what's happening?
[00:22:20] Yeah, you can sit on me.
[00:22:20] Go ahead.
[00:22:28] A full English breakfast, y'know
[00:22:30] We just came from London
[00:22:33] Are you sure you didn't have an American breakfast?
[00:22:36] I mean,
[00:22:38] Americanized English breakfast.
[00:22:40] I have nothing
[00:22:41] to put in front
[00:22:42] of it.
[00:22:42] This is what
[00:22:42] I guess
[00:22:43] when I do
[00:22:43] to people
[00:22:43] when I
[00:22:43] have the
[00:22:44] mic,
[00:22:44] I don't
[00:22:44] know
[00:22:44] what
[00:22:44] to say.
[00:22:45] For sure
[00:22:46] you put
[00:22:46] them
[00:22:46] in awkward
[00:22:47] positions.
[00:22:52] Once again I don't know what to say to that because in response to that like it was just in response the first thing that i
[00:22:55] just moved the mic no i need to make you suffer i mean mean how much he may win my friend okay? This is actually a great ab workout
[00:23:02] I really appreciate this if you could make me laugh tell me a joke
[00:23:07] Huh see
[00:23:09] You read there's a reason why I'm the player and you're the comedian here.
[00:23:14] Are you sure? I've watched your position five run it looks like quite the joke!
[00:23:19] I mean if you say so. I think many would agree.
[00:23:23] It's just a self-deprecating thing.
[00:23:25] If I say anything in response it's mean.
[00:23:28] Just keep talking!
[00:23:29] Yeah, I'm trying to... A few moments they tear he's really locked in she's very focused
[00:23:38] tell me funny joke make him crack, let me think.
[00:23:44] Let's see... There is a Bo Burnham one.
[00:23:46] What do you call an ugly kid in high school?
[00:23:49] What?
[00:23:50] Names.
[00:23:53] That's a Bo Burnham. it's much more offensive the actual joke.
[00:23:57] My friends your form is getting a little worse there Jenkins what's happening?
[00:24:02] There was a guy sitting on me who's American.
[00:24:05] Are you sure he's American?
[00:24:08] You're
[00:24:08] American.
[00:24:11] You're going to have to find my password,
[00:24:12] my friend. You're from like New York or something.
[00:24:15] Whoa! Why do you think I'm from New York?
[00:24:17] You just seem like a New Yorker.
[00:24:19] Where are you from?
[00:24:21] I'm from China, my friend.
[00:24:23] That's not true. You're the most American guy
[00:24:25] I know dude
[00:24:25] Other than Sunsfan
[00:24:26] A few moments later
[00:24:29] Guys The forums on maybe maybe it's time to call it or what's happening
[00:24:39] you want a tie
[00:24:42] okay
[00:24:44] okay You want to tie? Let's go. OK, 3-2-1.
[00:24:46] OK.
[00:24:49] That's good.
[00:24:50] I just tied with the TI winner.
[00:24:51] That's good.
[00:24:52] You were hurting at the end there weren't you?
[00:24:54] Yeah it was for sure.
[00:24:55] So that's a point we get two Dota players doing competitive things?
[00:24:57] You should never give up.
[00:24:58] I mean, I would keep longer but...
[00:25:01] ...I'm sure it will do something bad to me.
[00:25:03] And you have to go obviously, you're very busy.
[00:25:05] Oh yeah, I did for the time of strength for sure.
[00:25:07] Right like a TI winner, people want to interview you?
[00:25:09] You know sharing gold is good.
[00:25:11] It's true if you double down
[00:25:12] you'd beat me wouldn't you?
[00:25:14] No I would choke.
[00:25:16] You would choke because it's just too much stress?
[00:25:17] For sure. Okay so appreciate the competition. I would choke. You'd choke because it's just too much stress?
[00:25:18] For sure.
[00:25:19] Okay, so appreciate the competition.
[00:25:20] A little friendly competition.
[00:25:21] Well done.
[00:25:22] Thank you for being a gracious host.
[00:25:25] It's time for double down round two no?
[00:25:27] No!
[00:25:28] Give me that.
[00:25:31] Did you have coffee?
[00:25:33] I did have coffee.
[00:25:34] I didn't have coffee so...
[00:25:35] Okay yeah we'll do it again
[00:25:36] We'll do a rematch
[00:25:38] Who's the last one to leave yeah i got you okay sounds good
[00:25:41] yeah that's uh how i'm gonna clock out for the day i think so so so ready set go so you ever wondered how a Hollywood movie is shot?
[00:26:55] On a Sony.
[00:26:57] You review it on a Sony, and how do you make that sound epic?
[00:27:03] You record it on the Sony! Shhh! You recorded? Anasone.
[00:27:06] Lunch break, Anasona.
[00:27:09] So why wouldn't you watch it?
[00:27:12] Ana Bravia. I saw you.
[00:27:19] Have you got what it takes to get to the top?
[00:27:24] It doesn't matter how high you climb to reach the top even the biggest champ needs a break
[00:27:31] so you can recharge dive back in and dominate.
[00:27:45] Have a break, Have a Kit Kat.
[00:27:48] .
[00:27:49] . so so.. so so so so so so so so We've had nearly three weeks of incredible Dota 2 here at RIA Masters and today we find out which team will take the title.
[00:30:13] We have a lot of matches leading into this moment in the the first week, we had the play-in stage.
[00:30:17] Lots of games but ultimately two teams got eliminated
[00:30:20] and immediately afterwards we started the group stage
[00:30:22] which resulted in four teams being gone.
[00:30:26] Gaming gladiators have swiftly ascended throughout this tournament to the grand finals
[00:30:31] they're looking like they're in top form will they quit at all but they need an opponent
[00:30:36] in the grand finals both of these or bracket teams are angry
[00:30:39] both have entered into phase two who's gonna make it to the grand finals team liquid and
[00:30:46] no doubt wanting revenge from gaming gladi, hunting for their first win since 2020.
[00:30:50] Or will Team Falcons continue their lower bracket run in front of the home crowd? Because nothing is granted, everything is earned.
[00:31:07] And by the end of today one of these three teams will be immortalized in esports world cup history
[00:31:12] let's get this final day of riyadh masters 2024 underway so so so so so so so Good morning!
[00:32:41] We're into our very last day of Riyadh Masters here at East Horts World Cup.
[00:32:46] Let me introduce my lovely, gorgeous panel to you guys standing right beside me.
[00:32:50] Jenkins!
[00:32:51] Hello!
[00:32:52] That was so grand!
[00:32:54] Hello!
[00:32:54] I'm back.
[00:32:55] It's here. It's the Grand Finals day.
[00:32:57] That's enough from you.
[00:32:58] Lacoste and Effie though?
[00:33:00] It's great to work with you guys.
[00:33:01] Oh absolutely.
[00:33:02] I mean really happy to be here.
[00:33:03] Grand finals of course day there is going
[00:33:05] to be a lot of good Dota VO three into
[00:33:08] five one team is going to be playing potentially eight games very excited
[00:33:11] to see every series going full distance. Yeah and the whole tournament was
[00:33:15] building up to this today is when we get to finally crown the victor
[00:33:19] and I think a lot of the teams have a lot
[00:33:23] fans who want them to get that first place, but
[00:33:27] We have our own biases.
[00:33:29] Whoa, whoa, whoa.
[00:33:30] We're fully unbiased.
[00:33:32] Let's pick our winners right now.
[00:33:33] Who's winning? Wait, wait, wait.
[00:33:34] I do want you guys to do that.
[00:33:36] I definitely do.
[00:33:36] But I wanna take a larger look
[00:33:38] at the Esports World Cup as a whole because
[00:33:40] even though it's our last day, it's taken
[00:33:42] three weeks for us to get here. There are
[00:33:44] also two other game titles going on. We've got
[00:33:46] PUBG Mobile that started a couple days ago
[00:33:48] their final is today.
[00:33:53] CS2 also started about four days ago as well,
[00:33:56] so they're definitely on a speedier timeline for their tournament,
[00:33:57] but it doesn't mean it's any less.
[00:33:59] There's still a lot of points on the line for all
[00:34:01] these clubs that are participating
[00:34:03] across multiple titles.
[00:34:05] I know for a fact that Falcons are both here in Dota
[00:34:07] as well as PUBG Mobile.
[00:34:10] That is right, Natty.
[00:34:11] In fact, the
[00:34:12] three teams that we have remaining
[00:34:14] in Dota 2 are all
[00:34:16] in contention for lots of these
[00:34:18] Club Award points. Yeah.
[00:34:20] And I've heard the hubbub around
[00:34:23] the streets the club awards matter a lot it's hard to run an esports
[00:34:27] company it's very different from a normal
[00:34:29] business and the potential of earning some extra money getting some extra fame accolades all of
[00:34:37] this stuff is very important for these teams yeah falcons yeah has a lot of points.
[00:34:43] They have so many.
[00:34:44] You know what the Falcons don't have?
[00:34:45] They have a lot of teams this year that's been working out
[00:34:47] so far for them, and EWC is going to continue
[00:34:50] for another month.
[00:34:51] I also think they picked up another team,
[00:34:52] so Team Falcon strategy working out so far.
[00:34:55] Well look some people might be tuning in for the first time and
[00:34:58] don't really understand this club championship that we're talking about
[00:35:01] so here's a little video to give you guys all the information that you need.
[00:35:04] The game starts you guys all the information you need
[00:35:07] introducing the club championship here's how it works each club will have
[00:35:12] the opportunity to field its rosters across
[00:35:15] multiple titles.
[00:35:16] The clubs finishing in the top eight across each of the 21 titles
[00:35:19] will receive points based on their placement
[00:35:22] for a chance to qualify for the club championship
[00:35:24] A club needs to place in the top eight
[00:35:27] in at least two competitions.
[00:35:29] For a chance to win,
[00:35:30] a club must finish first
[00:35:31] in at least one competition.
[00:35:33] Once the tournament has concluded
[00:35:35] the top 16 clubs will take a share
[00:35:36] of $20 million prize pool with the first place team claiming
[00:35:40] the title of the first ever Esports World Cup Club Champion
[00:35:44] as well as receiving a staggering $7 million
[00:35:48] in prize money.
[00:35:51] For us to talk about
[00:35:52] the club championship a little bit more
[00:35:54] we do have just Tonya here, one of the co-founders
[00:35:56] of Gaming Gladiators. Go for itenshin it's so great to have you
[00:35:59] in there it's so great absolutely pleasure okay all right well let's talk about how well uh you
[00:36:06] know gaming gladiators just not yeah ignore the rankings but they're doing
[00:36:10] great here in dota yeah we are we uh we picked up 20 points in free fire previously so we are on
[00:36:15] there somewhere just uh not towards the top just yet. That's right,
[00:36:19] that's why you have
[00:36:20] 620,
[00:36:20] right?
[00:36:21] That's the 20.
[00:36:22] Well yeah,
[00:36:22] that's the 20
[00:36:22] so after today
[00:36:24] 1,020
[00:36:25] very easy.
[00:36:26] Alright,
[00:36:27] oh he's got
[00:36:27] the confidence
[00:36:28] I mean let's talk
[00:36:29] about EWC,
[00:36:30] the Esports World Cup.
[00:36:31] You know,
[00:36:31] how long have you been here for?
[00:36:33] How long are you going to stay here
[00:36:34] to cheer on the team?
[00:36:35] So I've been here now
[00:36:36] for just over a week.
[00:36:38] I'm going to be here
[00:36:38] for another five days after that I fly out but I'm going be here for another five days after that.
[00:36:40] I fly out, but I'm going to be replaced by my three other co-founders.
[00:36:44] We're invested all the way through.
[00:36:46] We have teams all the way through to last week.
[00:36:48] Oh my goodness!
[00:36:49] We've got PUBG PC and Rocket League on the last week so it it's going to be intense, I'm gonna be sat at home stressing
[00:36:53] I feel for my wife and kids.
[00:36:56] They're gonna have to like hear all of it.
[00:36:57] I mean you guys are stressing because you obviously want your players
[00:36:59] to do well but how much does getting up there and maybe even the top three for
[00:37:03] club championship mean for you i mean yeah it's it's vital for both like describe the ecosystem
[00:37:09] it's very difficult right now for esports orgs to support themselves just off base sponsorships alone.
[00:37:14] So the money's always helpful, but then it's the glory that you're chasing more than anything else.
[00:37:18] So we're definitely looking to get up to the top and maybe clip some wings on Team Falcons.
[00:37:24] Oh, I like that one.
[00:37:26] All right.
[00:37:27] I got a question.
[00:37:27] I already asked you this off camera, but I want to explain for
[00:37:31] the audience what is your process
[00:37:33] for scouting teams?
[00:37:35] Because for Falcons
[00:37:36] it seems like their
[00:37:37] process is
[00:37:37] buy the best team.
[00:37:40] You guys seem to do
[00:37:41] this thing where you
[00:37:42] buy an up and coming
[00:37:43] tier 2 team.
[00:37:43] How do you rank
[00:37:45] a team where it's like, this team is worth getting?
[00:37:47] We have quite possibly
[00:37:49] some of the best scouts in the industry
[00:37:51] amongst Alex, Nick and Sean who
[00:37:53] are the other three co-founders
[00:37:54] and also our chief Alex, Nick and Sean who are the other three co-founders
[00:37:55] And also our Chief of Staff Joe Oram
[00:37:58] He's really good at scouting out Battle Royale teams
[00:38:01] So we put together a lot of analytics
[00:38:03] We've put together a lot of data for where teams
[00:38:05] Are up and coming from, regions that are successful.
[00:38:08] But not just that but regions that are undervalued so for instance we are one of the only organizations to have an APAC Rocket League team.
[00:38:15] It's not a place where a lot...
[00:38:16] Let's go APAC! That place where... Let's go, APAC!
[00:38:17] That's my region, let's go!
[00:38:18] There's not a lot of
[00:38:19] Rocket League players out there
[00:38:20] but it guarantees us
[00:38:21] a major
[00:38:22] it guarantees us
[00:38:23] world championships
[00:38:23] and now it guarantees
[00:38:24] us EWC
[00:38:25] where the team can
[00:38:26] make a difference and take out some of
[00:38:28] the OCE, SSA and potentially even an EU team if they try hard enough.
[00:38:32] Which teams do you have that will actually win?
[00:38:36] Like which teams are to get your points?
[00:38:39] So we did a very sort of overall base
[00:38:42] if we have two teams that we think
[00:38:43] are number one in the world
[00:38:44] in their craft,
[00:38:45] that is Dota and Fortnite.
[00:38:47] Our Fortnite roster hasn't dropped a single game
[00:38:49] across the past three months
[00:38:51] with 3-0 Falcons every time, so no concerns
[00:38:53] there. But then all
[00:38:55] the Battle Royale games with the element
[00:38:57] of RNG... You, you know, what are
[00:39:00] you going to draw up if
[00:39:00] everyone's gonna drop on top
[00:39:01] of you? Exactly so our Apex
[00:39:03] Legends PUBG both of those
[00:39:05] teams look very exciting and
[00:39:07] very good pickups for us
[00:39:09] And then I think Overwatch,
[00:39:10] we have a strong chance there as well.
[00:39:12] Yeah, that's next week as well.
[00:39:13] So yeah, you guys are definitely consistent throughout EWC
[00:39:17] and look Joe,
[00:39:18] I wish that we could have you on for longer unfortunately
[00:39:20] though we're going to get this day going. I mean, I'm sure you could have you on for longer. Unfortunately though,
[00:39:21] we've got to get this day going.
[00:39:21] I mean,
[00:39:22] I'm sure you're excited to get to the grand finals as well.
[00:39:24] Yeah,
[00:39:24] a little bit anxious
[00:39:25] but I want to know who we face.
[00:39:26] I think that's the key.
[00:39:27] Yeah,
[00:39:27] do you want to put
[00:39:28] a quick prediction out there?
[00:39:29] Team Liquid are going
[00:39:30] to take Falcons and then we're
[00:39:32] gonna repeat last year okay i can understand that all right yeah like you
[00:39:35] you think you're going for the easy well joe thank you so much for joining us it's
[00:39:38] been a pleasure here but let's jump on into
[00:39:40] the doter a little bit more we've got gaming gladiators
[00:39:44] already guaranteed into the grand finals for themselves after a very swift 2-0 against team
[00:39:50] liquid yesterday bond burner in a sarcastic tone
[00:39:53] is how I describe it, Jenkins?
[00:39:54] Yeah, that was honestly
[00:39:56] one of the most brutal matches
[00:39:57] at Dota
[00:39:58] that I've seen
[00:39:58] and a long time
[00:39:59] they got completely obliterated.
[00:40:02] That was a Gaben level slacking,
[00:40:04] maybe even a Gabens top hat
[00:40:05] level slacking which hasn't been awarded
[00:40:07] speaking of awards in
[00:40:08] very long time.
[00:40:09] Blitz said they got cheesed
[00:40:11] there is that last pick dazzle
[00:40:12] that came out
[00:40:13] and completely dumpstered mid from Quinn,
[00:40:17] but then what explains game one?
[00:40:19] Yeah I was about to ask the same question
[00:40:21] because second game it was a 24th pick Dazzle.
[00:40:23] Ember we've seen this hero have a lot of you know high win rate in
[00:40:27] this tournament so far but this is the hero that has a lot of counters in the lane especially if
[00:40:32] you pick it early in the draft and then's something that they did exploit when they played
[00:40:37] against steam liquid so coming into this one uh i think team falcons they are having this lower
[00:40:43] bracket run you know had a pretty stressful series yesterday against psg quest run, you know. Had a pretty stressful series yesterday against PSG
[00:40:47] Quest. It was very high
[00:40:49] chances of them losing that one
[00:40:51] but they managed to get their stuff
[00:40:53] together and they won and then they won
[00:40:55] against Tundra as well. Yeah I uh both the teams that we're seeing in
[00:40:58] our lower bracket team liquid and falcons both had quick two o's just one more favorable than
[00:41:01] the other fe yeah um i think team liquid today is a team that I do want to root for, but after...
[00:41:09] I don't know if they're cut out for winning versus Falcons today because
[00:41:13] They got a little bit exposed in their series yesterday
[00:41:16] Versus Gaiman.
[00:41:17] I think where it seems like they're only going
[00:41:20] to play three carries.
[00:41:21] And like, they lost picked razor into an unfavorable game.
[00:41:24] So I'm hoping that overnight completely shifted their draft ideas.
[00:41:27] Oh God, you know like to do the social media
[00:41:30] stalk every now and then see what the players the coaches are doing in that time i know they've been
[00:41:33] staying up late trying to draw after and prep on this side of liquid so there's a fine balance
[00:41:38] i feel but either way i still want to relive some
[00:41:40] of the moments yesterday so let's have a look at our aramco top five plays of yesterday This matchup is going to go. Go through the gate, but it was his only way out I suppose.
[00:42:01] Foxy didn't die, but he can get his body blocked up a little bit
[00:42:04] and he's gonna need a big inhale from Foxy to survive
[00:42:07] through this situation which is not going to happen.
[00:42:10] Foxy still lingering trying to go for Karachi with seven situation I'm telling you that was shit for smoke up one very much
[00:42:24] the quality of it is if we drop down to a box because they're
[00:42:29] ever kill off a bar as well double-kill but ta 2000 speeder he has got go to the bkbtp out he'll manage
[00:42:34] to make it away they've used two buybacks though for
[00:42:37] this fight but carrying a snakey flying back
[00:42:40] to try and get the action going back in their favor but it's not gonna happen to sign a link with 33. he pops what's going on trying to stay alive he's hitting him he's hitting up the child is eventually going to come out is the fight, which is like we've got more odd-nip thingy.
[00:43:25] We're probably...
[00:43:27] We're through the trees
[00:43:30] getting information.
[00:43:30] He keeps jumping alongside of Maul.
[00:43:34] See if the proper war is going to go on
[00:43:36] at the camp now. gets blown up right away.
[00:43:37] Skeeters does not last long, he tries to get off Vantac'a Manta but cannot get out of the Rukon's command!
[00:43:41] It's too much for him. So yeah they stop the basic choice we're getting
[00:43:45] off a time zone but they've lost their carry from our in-ball reader is to the back of
[00:44:22] Thanks to Aramco, we got to relive those top five of plays yesterday a lot of highlighted moments but i'm more interested in how exactly the players reacted themselves so
[00:44:27] we've got our pepsi top reactions here i'm going to keep an eye on our players look
[00:44:32] guys there's always the varying people popping off but also kind of this is sadness of losing
[00:44:37] a disappointment yeah i mean yesterday is a brutal day right you're so close to that grand finals say
[00:44:43] it's the very very last stretch you can feel your victory we can feel the amount of money
[00:44:48] you take the glory getting there unfortunately not every team will make it.
[00:44:53] Sometimes they're just a cut above the rest, right?
[00:44:54] When they're in these high-pressure situations,
[00:44:57] when they can get emotional like they are right now,
[00:45:00] for veterans, we'll kind of just stand above the rest which is what we saw with Quest
[00:45:05] versus Falcons for example. I mean Quest they almost did it but at that very end
[00:45:10] the nerves got home. Yeah I think that's the difference
[00:45:13] between making it to that top four
[00:45:16] and having to face up against Tundra
[00:45:18] And also the difference
[00:45:19] between the momentum of Falcons getting
[00:45:21] to play twice in one day, Jenkins? That Tundra
[00:45:24] weren't ready to pace it up. They weren't
[00:45:26] and I think part of that is because Falcons
[00:45:28] talking about reactions
[00:45:29] they actually didn't react
[00:45:32] like they were happy from beating quest yeah
[00:45:36] They were angry, they thought it was too close for how good they-
[00:45:39] For what their expectations are
[00:45:41] And you could feel the fury in the Tungsten.
[00:45:45] They were angry.
[00:45:46] And after the game, Team Falcons on camera
[00:45:49] they were kind of arguing what needed to be done
[00:45:51] because they weren't happy with the outcome
[00:45:53] even though they did win
[00:45:54] cause they had like 99% chance total play they were not happy with the outcome, even though they did win.
[00:45:55] Because they had like 99% chance total plus
[00:45:58] of winning that game but it was a stretch
[00:46:01] and it's very stressful game.
[00:46:02] Yeah yesterday,
[00:46:03] The way that all played out is we saw PSG Quest. They fell in
[00:46:07] fifth-sixth position and then when we went to that upper bracket to see who would make
[00:46:11] it to the grand finals, we got to end the day with another key crushing. So this one
[00:46:15] right here is Skidder doing uh the crushing of psg quest
[00:46:18] key but also later on it was the snaking crushing uh tundra's cake and that one we
[00:46:24] said was the crispest keep chris crispy's chris crisper river he crushed yeah of the century now there
[00:46:31] he is which team has the most kia crushes so far they're still in the tournament yeah it's
[00:46:39] fun but even before I was thinking everybody time they go each week yes
[00:46:44] they have three yes I mean thank could be team when we have two
[00:46:49] they eliminated the entity and wbg sorry oh yeah you're right you're
[00:46:54] right
[00:46:57] they could get another potential key crush here and then you want to
[00:47:00] crush as many keys as he can not to get
[00:47:02] that 1 million 500 thousand
[00:47:04] dollars. That's a lot of it. A five
[00:47:06] million prize pool. We always talk about
[00:47:08] the weight of one best ofof-three, making it
[00:47:11] not only higher up there in positions, getting
[00:47:13] from fifth six to top four to top
[00:47:15] three to top two and one but
[00:47:17] there's a big difference in prize pool as well
[00:47:19] Jenkins when you make it up that ladder.
[00:47:20] It's a lot of money per series. I do like that it is more evenly
[00:47:23] distributed but also in terms of sustainability
[00:47:26] for these esports orgs doing
[00:47:29] well in this tournament and having that number associated with your name is very important for next year.
[00:47:35] Yeah, look to make such a fantastic show to give all of the information it's not just us here on the panel
[00:47:40] It's also some people roaming around purge specifically
[00:47:43] so let's see exactly where he ended up with himself this morning
[00:47:47] thanks guys i'm in the jameel motorsport arena right now and i'm just thinking about
[00:47:51] the best match of the day. And you might think
[00:47:53] oh, the finals is the match to watch. It is
[00:47:55] it's good, but GameGladiators
[00:47:57] kind of scare me. They play really fast
[00:47:59] so I think the match of the day
[00:48:01] just might be the lower bracket finals
[00:48:02] and that is where we get
[00:48:04] to see who has to unfortunately
[00:48:06] play against Gaming Gladiators.
[00:48:09] It's definitely
[00:48:10] not big enough. So,
[00:48:12] is it going to be
[00:48:13] Team Liquid or is it gonna be, it's going to be Team Liquid or is it
[00:48:16] gonna be the Falcons? Define haters expectations after having a rough group
[00:48:22] stage and then immediately getting knocked to the lower bracket. Are
[00:48:24] they going to be able to win? That's why I think it is the Jubiland Motorsport match
[00:48:28] of the day, so I can't wait to see what happens there and hopefully they level up enough in
[00:48:32] that series that they go to the finals and take some games off gaming gladiators
[00:48:36] because they looked unstoppable yesterday anyways let's see what happens I'm going to go with the game of the dead series.
[00:48:47] How can you not pick
[00:48:49] the grand finals?
[00:48:51] Is he insane?
[00:48:53] He doesn't know who's
[00:48:55] going, maybe he's going to be.
[00:48:57] Maybe he thinks
[00:48:59] that it's gonna be
[00:49:00] Team Liquid
[00:49:00] going up against
[00:49:01] Damon Gladius
[00:49:02] and it's the Swift 3-0
[00:49:03] again, you know?
[00:49:03] This man's trying
[00:49:04] to hedge his bets
[00:49:05] but at least
[00:49:05] there'll be a bit
[00:49:06] of a back and forth
[00:49:07] in that lower bracket that will be starting at 2K30 the bottom of the bracket. So I think that's a good start for us to see if we can
[00:49:07] get some head, he's been said
[00:49:08] at least there'll be a bit of
[00:49:09] it back and forth in that
[00:49:10] lower bracket that will be
[00:49:12] starting at 2 p.m. So in about
[00:49:14] approximately 20 ish minutes
[00:49:16] with Matt, you know, the
[00:49:17] lower entrance because the lower bracket finals and most grand finals
[00:49:18] that I've watched the last couple of years
[00:49:20] has always been more exciting
[00:49:21] than the grand final sometimes.
[00:49:22] I don't think this will be the case this time
[00:49:24] cause you look at the quality
[00:49:25] of Team Liquid versus Team Volcan,
[00:49:26] The Grand Finals are gonna be an absolute banger. But the lower bracket
[00:49:30] finals will be too.
[00:49:31] We just put our cards on the table here and we'll make
[00:49:33] a prediction? Wait, wait. I want to give you one piece of information
[00:49:35] before you do that, okay? Do you know how
[00:49:37] many tournaments this year have had the lower bracket winner come up and take the finals?
[00:49:43] I'd say three of them.
[00:49:45] All but one!
[00:49:46] All but one?!
[00:49:47] All but one!
[00:49:49] Yep, Bibi GDatchup was the only
[00:49:51] one where the upper bracket
[00:49:52] team won and every other
[00:49:53] tournament we've had is
[00:49:55] the lower bracket winner.
[00:49:56] Well, my prediction
[00:49:57] was that these guys
[00:49:59] were going to
[00:50:01] you know, no offense to Team Liquid
[00:50:03] but I think that's gonna be a quick 2-0
[00:50:05] But I think Gaiman versus
[00:50:07] Falcons. I think they're both
[00:50:09] at a peak right now. I agree, I think that's going to be
[00:50:12] a five game series,
[00:50:13] at least four.
[00:50:14] At least five!
[00:50:15] At least five!
[00:50:17] We can get more than five but yet
[00:50:20] when the way they started this tournament, Team Falcon 0 and 4.
[00:50:24] They were my favorites to win the whole thing
[00:50:27] And seeing them power up through this lower bracket
[00:50:30] I think i'm gonna stick with them
[00:50:32] Winning this 1 one 2-0
[00:50:33] and then be in the grand finals against the game gladiators.
[00:50:37] Wouldn't count out Liquid though, Jenkins saying they're going to get 2-0.
[00:50:40] And him, he also said it.
[00:50:42] Throw both of us under the bus at the same time
[00:50:43] falcons are extremely good and they're terrifying to play against but liquid
[00:50:47] have had an incredible run this tournament and just because
[00:50:50] they had one bad series it doesn't mean that they spent
[00:50:53] the entire night correcting for those
[00:50:54] errors.
[00:50:55] I think if they bring the same drafts they did yesterday, they will lose.
[00:50:58] But if they've worked on their drafting and their ideas overnight specifically versus
[00:51:02] the zoo creeps coming from Physicians 5,
[00:51:04] they'll be chilling enough.
[00:51:05] Yeah I mean we've seen it time and time again
[00:51:07] that the losses in tournaments are actually what gives teams
[00:51:10] momentum so I'm totally with you Effie
[00:51:12] that upper bracket could have been the wake up call
[00:51:14] that Team Liquid needs but let's see exactly where So I'm totally with you Effie, that upper bracket could have been the wake up call
[00:51:15] That Team Liquid needs but let's see exactly where their thoughts are
[00:51:18] For their lower bracket matchup as we've got Purge and 33
[00:51:23] Name here with 3-3 of Team Liquid
[00:51:25] You guys had a tough loss yesterday, how are you feeling right now?
[00:51:28] I feel okay. Obviously it's rough losing like that
[00:51:32] but sometimes it just happens and the way I look at it is when
[00:51:35] you lose to gladiators,
[00:51:36] like you always lose in 15 minutes.
[00:51:38] So if you don't lose in 15 minutes
[00:51:40] you're probably going to win.
[00:51:42] Getting stomped by gladiators in 15 minutes
[00:51:44] is equal to losing to spirits in 50 minutes.
[00:51:48] It's just another loss.
[00:51:50] It's like you lost a coin flip and you're like, oh well I lost the coin flip!
[00:51:53] Yeah so it looks really bad but in reality this is like the strat
[00:51:57] So if the strat works
[00:51:57] they will win
[00:51:58] really,
[00:51:58] really convincingly.
[00:52:00] So yeah,
[00:52:00] obviously we fucked up
[00:52:01] we should have done
[00:52:02] a lot better
[00:52:02] but
[00:52:03] we don't feel
[00:52:04] crushed
[00:52:05] like holy shit
[00:52:06] we had no chance.
[00:52:07] That's great
[00:52:07] I was worried
[00:52:07] for you guys
[00:52:08] in terms of your prep last night after a lot did you focus we have no chance. That's great, I was worried for you guys.
[00:52:08] In terms of your prep last night after the loss
[00:52:10] did you focus on that series or
[00:52:12] did you just instantly pivot and say like
[00:52:14] we gotta beat either Falcons or Tundra?
[00:52:17] We pretty much said
[00:52:18] we should kinda forget forget about the game
[00:52:20] against Gladiators. Obviously, we came into it with a bit
[00:52:22] wrong ideas and
[00:52:23] we lost early game
[00:52:26] both games in the lanes super
[00:52:28] bad so to be honest, it was hard even to tell
[00:52:30] like maybe our ideas were not that bad
[00:52:32] we just fucked up their lanes
[00:52:33] probably a combination of both
[00:52:34] but we knew that Tandora and Falcons
[00:52:37] are very different teams
[00:52:38] so we just kind of said
[00:52:39] let's forget about it because you know if we play them
[00:52:43] again we'll come into it with a different approach but uh yeah for now we just wanted to prepare for
[00:52:50] okay and how confident are you guys
[00:52:51] feeling against falcons you've gotten to see tons of their matches they've had a
[00:52:54] lot of almost elimination series i feel like you
[00:52:56] can collect all their secrets so do you feel confident yeah we feel
[00:53:00] uh confident obviously the good team but now the weakest they've looked all year pretty much
[00:53:06] They look pretty invincible at times
[00:53:09] But now they just look like another strong team
[00:53:12] That can win,
[00:53:12] they can lose like nothing special.
[00:53:15] All right great well good luck in your match
[00:53:16] and I hope you guys do well.
[00:53:17] Yeah thank you.
[00:53:20] The weakest they've looked all year is what 33 just said.
[00:53:25] He is not worried at all about the form and the ramp-up of Falcons in this lower bracket.
[00:53:30] He has, I'm not going to say confidence through the roof
[00:53:33] because we've seen obviously people come into series
[00:53:35] a little bit more confident than that.
[00:53:37] But they like that they're able to reset, refocus
[00:53:39] and really truly believe
[00:53:41] that they are gonna be able to take this one from Falcons.
[00:53:43] And that's what we usually see from Team Falcons,
[00:53:44] I would say right now
[00:53:46] at Riyadh Masters
[00:53:47] they have a pretty low
[00:53:48] 64% win rate overall.
[00:53:50] Maybe that's why
[00:53:51] 33 is talking about
[00:53:52] them being beatable
[00:53:54] also making
[00:53:54] the slower bracket run.
[00:53:56] They showed that they can bleed.
[00:53:58] They're also one of the few teams
[00:53:59] that don't utilize this position 5 spin.
[00:54:02] This is how meta kind of developed.
[00:54:03] They're not playing these cheesy strats
[00:54:05] and they are not
[00:54:07] playing, I would say as fast as Gaming Gladiators
[00:54:09] and the Steam Liquid because Steam Liquid showed
[00:54:11] so far in the tournament
[00:54:13] in the upper bracket matches that they can play
[00:54:15] some really fast-paced D, but they got shut down
[00:54:17] completely by Gaiman and I think they
[00:54:19] need to go back to their own tempo. They need
[00:54:21] to be the ones dictating the tempo of the game.
[00:54:24] The thing about Liquid though is that
[00:54:25] yesterday they lost to Gaiman's Chen and then they lost to game and Ken and then I
[00:54:28] lost to their in turn Chris another two heroes at Falcons also play beautifully
[00:54:31] you cannot underestimate snaking on these years but they just did not have
[00:54:35] an answer so if they also play see free which
[00:54:36] gamer loves to run the Chen plus
[00:54:39] the CK and I really think that Falcons
[00:54:41] could replicate how Gaiman beat them
[00:54:43] yesterday today if they watch live.
[00:54:44] They have very shared heroes so
[00:54:46] I am actually more concerned for Liquid here
[00:54:49] than for Falcons.
[00:54:51] Yeah, I would agree with that as well because even though
[00:54:53] we talk about those cheese like the Sven
[00:54:55] 5 that you just mentioned, Lacoste
[00:54:57] We now know that Falcons have answers to it so if you
[00:55:00] have an answer, you don't necessarily need to pick it up for yourself but hey
[00:55:02] I'm no expert on this team and what they want a draft but Purge was able
[00:55:06] to catch up with their expert, their coach Aoui but that coach Ali.
[00:55:15] Hey, AUI. Can I grab you quick for the interview?
[00:55:20] Thanks for joining me. So we spoke yesterday after the game two draft and you said that you had to walk away during
[00:55:25] the draft to use the restroom so I want to ask you about that because…
[00:55:28] You asked the on camera.
[00:55:32] I'm not gonna ask about the details
[00:55:34] I just wanna know what are the strategy implications
[00:55:36] cause I think it's interesting
[00:55:38] how many picks and bans did you miss?
[00:55:40] Uh, I think I missed sort of 14-15, and I came back
[00:55:44] and said we should pick Phoenix.
[00:55:48] Do you feel like that was correct what you said at the time about
[00:55:51] the Phoenix even though you guys still won? Yeah, I think
[00:55:53] the Phoenix pick was really good that game because
[00:55:55] we needed damage to go through Chen.
[00:55:58] So we're like sort of
[00:55:59] worried with Snapfire but
[00:56:01] I think sometimes your draft just needs something.
[00:56:03] It doesn't really matter if the enemy has an on-paper counter.
[00:56:06] So do you think Phoenix is one of the heroes that breaks these aura heroes
[00:56:09] because of percentage based damage or is it something else?
[00:56:11] I'm not sure.
[00:56:13] It depends on the aura hero because it's not just auras
[00:56:16] If you have Chen give Aura but the hero doesn't necessarily give you team fight
[00:56:20] But if you're like a Brewmaster Aura then you have teamfight and Aura so there is like a balance
[00:56:24] I don't know, Auras are strong right now and you have teamfighting auras, so there's like a balance.
[00:56:26] I don't know, auras are strong right now So you need to try a lot of different things
[00:56:28] at both different angles in order to beat this
[00:56:31] Yeah, you guys have a lot of momentum right now
[00:56:33] After winning lower bracket finals
[00:56:34] You were playing against Liquid who just got pretty
[00:56:36] smashed 2-0 so do you feel like you're just extra confident considering the momentum? I mean i don't
[00:56:43] know what the momentum affects us that much.
[00:56:46] But I think we're pretty confident going into this match anyways.
[00:56:49] And if you guys do win this match, how do you think you'll match up against Gladiators?
[00:56:54] Honestly, I think pretty well.
[00:56:55] In DreamLeague we lost to of them and now for Malkin
[00:56:57] we won the finals or something so
[00:56:59] I think we'll like
[00:57:00] will be confident no matter what
[00:57:01] opponent we're facing this tournament
[00:57:03] but you know
[00:57:03] Gladden is
[00:57:04] they said a 2-0 to us
[00:57:06] 2-1 to us this tournament
[00:57:06] So They've been better and you know
[00:57:08] Hopefully we can learn from what our series wisdom. All right great. Thank you for joining me good luck in your match. Thank you
[00:57:15] Pudge doing the double whammy there, talking about Liquid and a game
[00:57:18] And trying to maybe hype up some of the Falcons fans
[00:57:20] To be like hey you know if you guys do get that what exactly is going to happen
[00:57:23] But Liquid right now is standing in their way
[00:57:25] Look cause it's as simple and easy as what Ali said about balancing
[00:57:30] the auras and how you draft.
[00:57:32] This man is a man of mystery.
[00:57:34] He does not want to reveal any of
[00:57:35] the strategies coming into BO3,
[00:57:37] BO5, so he's going to lie on camera which is fine
[00:57:40] totally from his point of view but
[00:57:42] these auras they are super strong
[00:57:44] I think some of these heroes
[00:57:46] are going to be highly contested we did mention the Sven
[00:57:48] plus the Pipe from the offlane,
[00:57:50] which is undispellable.
[00:57:52] That's the big thing that you don't have a real counterplay to it.
[00:57:56] I think this is where maybe some pure damage
[00:57:58] is going to come into play.
[00:57:59] Timbersaw.
[00:58:00] There it is or percentage-based
[00:58:01] damage, the Phoenix that he mentioned, some of
[00:58:03] these Underlords as well, something
[00:58:05] that can't go through all this tankiness that you're
[00:58:07] bringing to the table with all these auras.
[00:58:09] He definitely lied a little bit. I don't think Phoenix does damage through pipe.
[00:58:12] Where exactly did he lie?
[00:58:13] Because Phoenix is not damaged through Chen, it isn't damaged through pipe but actually
[00:58:16] he did not lie about the concept of picking a hero that gives you team fight because
[00:58:20] Chen doesn't have teamfight.
[00:58:21] I thought that was very cool conceptually actually. of picking a hero that gives you team fight because Chen doesn't have team fight.
[00:58:22] I thought that was very cool conceptually, actually.
[00:58:25] I think that's one way to win.
[00:58:26] I really like the pure damage angle.
[00:58:29] I feel like the pipes and nexus stuff are way too strong
[00:58:32] and you literally just need to
[00:58:33] carve through it that's that's the only
[00:58:35] way to do it
[00:58:36] i'm you know we talk about this team
[00:58:37] still the pure damage
[00:58:38] i'm also curious when we do uh
[00:58:40] essentially get there is about their
[00:58:41] off-laners but before we even look at a
[00:58:43] draft, before we even do anything else with this series
[00:58:46] We want to know exactly how these teams are walking out where the confidence
[00:58:50] is. We've got Falcons up against Team Liquid in our lower bracket finals.
[00:58:55] The winner is going to be going on to the grand finals, but first of all
[00:58:58] let's head down and down to Kadiyah Arena and welcome our teams! so so so so It is time to get the final day of Rion Masters underway.
[01:00:03] It has been a brutal gauntlet for these teams, four days of plans, five days of groups and now on this the sixth day of playoffs three teams
[01:00:13] remain lower bracket final match is going to be happening on this stage in Gidea Arena.
[01:00:21] Gaming Gladiators Team Liquid and Team Falcons are all here
[01:00:25] and they're very close, one step away from earning that trophy.
[01:00:29] And also one step away to earn that trophy. And also one step
[01:00:31] from elimination as Team Liquid
[01:00:33] had cruised through much of the upper bracket
[01:00:35] enjoying their time
[01:00:37] but get knocked down by Game and Gladiators
[01:00:39] in a very quick 2-0 fashion and falcons meanwhile seems like they are rising
[01:00:43] to the challenge as they get their victories against quest last night. Meanwhile team liquid
[01:00:49] they had a long run in the upper bracket.
[01:00:52] They were able to knock down every single team but then Gaming Gladiators were able
[01:00:56] to stop them in one of their quickest matches that we've had so far in Real Masters.
[01:01:01] But now they have to cross one step
[01:01:04] either to elimination or to the grand final.
[01:01:07] It has been a long journey for all of these teams.
[01:01:10] It's not all about skill,
[01:01:12] but it's about stamina and endurance
[01:01:12] And the fact that they can endure all of that
[01:01:15] while still presenting at the best Dota possible
[01:01:18] So Fancy...
[01:01:19] Why not bring him out?
[01:01:21] Let's bring him out
[01:01:22] This match ladies and gentlemen is worth $200 million why not bring him out let's bring them out this match
[01:01:23] ladies and gentlemen is worth 200 000 dollars for both teams
[01:01:29] on around 250 points in the esportport World Cup Club Championship.
[01:01:34] And for the first team that's walking on stage,
[01:01:36] it is Team Liquid!
[01:01:57] Make it!. ready to face Team Falcons after losing against Gaming Gladiators. We just heard 3-3 talk about how ready they are for this match.
[01:02:01] Team Falcons might not be an easy opponent but it's the last step for them
[01:02:05] to get
[01:02:06] to the grand final
[01:02:10] and they're making a another appearance in an elimination series please welcome
[01:02:15] team falcons Please welcome Team Falcons!
[01:02:22] Skinner, Maulreen, ATF, Crit and Snaking
[01:02:27] maybe enjoying the lower bracket run
[01:02:30] more than they thought they would.
[01:02:32] I saw the grin on Snaking's face as he
[01:02:34] crushed Tundra's Key last night
[01:02:36] and then maybe he might get that opportunity to do it again He got the Wanderer's Key last night,
[01:02:38] and maybe he might get that opportunity to do it again
[01:02:41] to Liquid.
[01:02:47] Teams! Take your seats and place your keys.
[01:02:58] Only three keys remain in this entire tournament.
[01:03:01] By the end of this match, only two will remain.
[01:03:04] Let's see which one is going to survive. so so so Team Liquid and team Falcons.
[01:03:50] These teams have placed off against each other multiple times
[01:03:53] already this year. The head-to-head
[01:03:55] record does favor Falcons, but
[01:03:57] Jenkins, would you favor Falcons
[01:03:59] in this low bracket best of three?
[01:04:01] I said that I would favor Falcons.
[01:04:03] But I do think
[01:04:04] this is a liquid
[01:04:06] which has ascended
[01:04:07] through this tournament
[01:04:08] they have ascended
[01:04:09] through this year
[01:04:10] finally 33 seems to be
[01:04:11] fitting in
[01:04:12] and this is one
[01:04:13] of the most malleable teams
[01:04:14] and the history of Dota you count them out,
[01:04:16] they come back with a punch for cost.
[01:04:19] Okay.
[01:04:19] They do.
[01:04:19] They really do, but if you need
[01:04:21] to calm down, we didn't start yet.
[01:04:23] Uh, team like that. If we exclude the last series that they played to calm down, because we didn't start yet. Team Liquid,
[01:04:24] if we exclude
[01:04:25] the last series
[01:04:26] that they played
[01:04:27] against Gaming Gladiators
[01:04:28] and that didn't happen,
[01:04:29] I think we'll be saying
[01:04:30] high praises about
[01:04:31] the team.
[01:04:32] It's something
[01:04:32] that does happen
[01:04:33] sometimes you lose
[01:04:34] but we talked a lot about how fast can you get up after you have this devastating loss?
[01:04:40] How fast will be able to adapt in the situation?
[01:04:43] And I think Team Liquid showed throughout the year
[01:04:45] That they are able to adapt to these problems
[01:04:48] that are being thrown at them.
[01:04:49] I feel like you can go two ways.
[01:04:50] You need to look at the year as a whole,
[01:04:52] or you can do recency bias.
[01:04:54] The fact that Team Liquid had a rough day yesterday,
[01:04:56] the momentum of the lower bracket for team Falcons.
[01:04:59] But either way make sure you guys let us know your prediction
[01:05:01] head on over to STCPlay.gg
[01:05:04] We want to hear it exactly any other advice
[01:05:06] Effie would give for those wanting to put in a prediction.
[01:05:09] You know, I think that you guys should not take what I...
[01:05:13] No listen to us! Just follow your heart because both of these teams are going to play some bang and dodo. The heart is
[01:05:19] never wrong, Effie.
[01:05:21] So right.
[01:05:22] But either way
[01:05:25] our lower bracket finals
[01:05:26] the two teams coming into it, only one will survive
[01:05:29] game 1 draft coming up on our
[01:05:31] screens. Excited to see how the
[01:05:33] meta has shifted all the way from day
[01:05:35] 1 of playoffs 3 weeks ago
[01:05:37] to here in our second last series that we will get at
[01:05:41] riyadh masters but also specifically between these two
[01:05:44] teams because in riad masters alone here esports world cup
[01:05:47] these teams have not gone up against each other they haven't faced off against each other on this patch, 7.36c
[01:05:54] So there is a lot of unknown quantities coming into this one
[01:05:58] Yeah that is interesting
[01:06:00] I mean that means we could have a very decisive game one.
[01:06:04] But the thing is,
[01:06:05] I trust both of these teams.
[01:06:07] They are world-class caliber to...
[01:06:10] I mean, they're three's for a reason.
[01:06:11] Yeah, these are two
[01:06:12] teams that can easily
[01:06:13] adjust on game two so
[01:06:14] even if game one goes
[01:06:15] a certain way because
[01:06:16] of the matchup that we
[01:06:17] haven't seen like you
[01:06:17] mentioned and these
[01:06:18] unknown things, I would
[01:06:19] trust it if it can still
[01:06:20] go all three games.
[01:06:21] I do wonder though because Falcons had to have watched the series yesterday,
[01:06:25] Liquid played versus Gaiman,
[01:06:27] and I have to re-emphasize that they lost to Chen
[01:06:30] and then they lost to Enchantress on Team Liquid. Falcons are no
[01:06:33] stranger to these two heroes, and
[01:06:35] they should be looking to run it themselves
[01:06:37] after what happened. The big surprise
[01:06:39] for me in the draft is Falcons banning
[01:06:41] out Brewmaster as their first ban against team liquid who didn't play
[01:06:45] brewmaster in a whole week and we did not see them succeed yet with that hero they're sitting
[01:06:50] at the zero and three so far we've seen different items coming out from the brewmaster we instead of you
[01:06:57] know rushing that radian so you're kind of not gonna say useless but if you're getting
[01:07:02] ganked once or twice that also means that Median's timing will be delayed.
[01:07:06] So Spirit Vessel, we've seen Pype,
[01:07:07] we've see Mek's coming out from Brewmaster
[01:07:09] which I think is the correct choice in current meta.
[01:07:11] I think that's why though,
[01:07:12] that's why they ban it
[01:07:13] because this is still a 3-3 specialty hero and now that Gaiman have successfully shown that the most
[01:07:20] successful
[01:07:21] Brew item build literally just is Greaves, Ppe, Crimson Guard, etc.
[01:07:26] They should have no problem replicating that on Team Liquid
[01:07:29] I agree, I think that's exactly what this is to me and
[01:07:31] I think this is a pretty 5 head ban from Falcons
[01:07:33] Like the fact they trust that Liquid can lose
[01:07:35] to something, go back into those replays
[01:07:38] Digest it
[01:07:39] Understand it
[01:07:39] And then
[01:07:40] Pick it up and play it
[01:07:41] In the very next day
[01:07:42] Like that's just
[01:07:43] It's 5-head
[01:07:44] They're not gonna lose
[01:07:45] To this Brewmaster
[01:07:45] Which they haven't picked in a week
[01:07:46] It's expected Well I actually Thought that They're not going to lose to this Birdmaster, which they haven't picked in a week.
[01:07:48] It's expected.
[01:07:50] Well, I actually thought that we might have seen a Beastmaster ban in that first phase
[01:07:52] for Falcons because Team Liquid loved to pick it up
[01:07:54] but yesterday they got their hands
[01:07:56] on it and didn't have the impact everyone expected. So
[01:07:58] it does feel like a lot of mind games are going
[01:08:01] on just within those first bands of
[01:08:03] what have they learned of this series
[01:08:04] yesterday for both these teams and what
[01:08:07] going forward because Monkey King was answered in the previous series by
[01:08:11] falcons but that was with the weaver so a great fan of the team liquid to have that weaver taken
[01:08:15] out and directly into uh the monkey king but unfortunately leaving the Sand King in the pool.
[01:08:22] Yeah I think that Beastmaster is not going to come out until we see Team Liquid ban
[01:08:27] that Enchantress on the first phase because that's a very easy answer
[01:08:30] to that hero that game did yesterday but this monkey king it's pro it's the most
[01:08:35] contested here of the tournament even more than tiny it can be flexed to multiple roles
[01:08:39] but you also pick it preemptively when you leave Sand
[01:08:42] King in the pool.
[01:08:43] Because this is a hero that can follow Sand King to the mid lane and it can follow Sand
[01:08:47] King to the offlane as a carry.
[01:08:49] And it's one of those melee heroes where san king excels versus
[01:08:52] melee heroes but monkey king doesn't operate in the same way because he
[01:08:55] punishes melee offliners yeah this sanking he's pretty much been
[01:08:59] the hero of the tournament we've seen other teams try to
[01:09:03] beat it, and I'm going through some
[01:09:05] of their games that they played against Sanking.
[01:09:07] This is why Team Lickford left
[01:09:08] in the pool. They did manage to beat
[01:09:11] it four out of five times last games where they played.
[01:09:13] If you remember the Team Spirit series, Tiny was highly contested.
[01:09:17] That's why they banned it out mid-matchup is that good.
[01:09:20] But also have Monkey King on their side, which is a flexible pick
[01:09:24] can be flexed across three different
[01:09:26] roles so you're not revealing anything yet
[01:09:28] and something that you talked about
[01:09:30] these Enchantresses
[01:09:31] So not a single offlaner band against team falcons which is something that the
[01:09:37] teamwork coming into this series did quite a lot of prep because a lot of times you'll see them
[01:09:42] heavily focusing on amar and banning some of these strong position fours for crit.
[01:09:46] I think this could be the bane of Team Liquid,
[01:09:49] I mean, this is way too early to say it
[01:09:51] but I think that double Chen enchanter spans
[01:09:53] really could ruin them if they win this series and go into the next one
[01:09:57] i feel like at some point maybe it'll work in this tournament but at some point they have to
[01:10:01] start playing these heroes themselves i agree too early to say that, though.
[01:10:06] Yeah, there's a lot of 5-hat stuff going on here, in my opinion.
[01:10:11] Like, I think the way that Liquid got knocked down into the lower bracket. Part of it is
[01:10:17] the fact that Gaiman
[01:10:19] proved that they understand how to play against
[01:10:22] the Tiny. They left the Tiny in the pool. I can't remember
[01:10:24] what team they were playing against, but maybe it was
[01:10:25] BB Team.
[01:10:28] And they picked the Chen, they picked what team they're playing against. Maybe it was BB Team. And
[01:10:28] they picked the Chen, they picked the TA mid
[01:10:30] to counter the Tiny.
[01:10:32] So one of the stories of this tournament
[01:10:34] is teams letting
[01:10:36] the OP hero of the tournament through and then countering it.
[01:10:41] And so in my eyes, this is what Liquid is doing by picking the Monkey King
[01:10:44] and letting the Sand King through.
[01:10:46] It's like the two heroes that seem really imba at least on the mid lane
[01:10:48] are the Sand King and the Tiny.
[01:10:49] Tiny's already been answered.
[01:10:50] Sand King, maybe not so much.
[01:10:52] So maybe they're just doing this
[01:10:54] so the draft is predictable
[01:10:55] so they know they're up against a Sand King
[01:10:56] because I think they can counter it.
[01:10:57] Yeah, I think what Lacoste says
[01:10:59] you have to factor into count
[01:11:00] so you have to pick your poison when it comes to teams like Falcons
[01:11:03] but Liquid has a very high success rate versus Sand King
[01:11:06] Lacoste mentioned that four out of five last games
[01:11:09] So they beat four Sand Kings? Four out of five last games. So they beat
[01:11:10] four Sand Kings successfully.
[01:11:11] They have to have confidence
[01:11:13] in their strategies.
[01:11:13] They did run something
[01:11:14] like an Io plus Flesh Rock
[01:11:16] versus Sand King
[01:11:16] that looked pretty cool.
[01:11:18] I think you can also
[01:11:19] run Ember Spirit
[01:11:20] versus Sand King with Mage Slayer.
[01:11:21] That's potentially something that we could do.
[01:11:22] But then, you've got to be careful of the Flex and the Sazzle going mid
[01:11:25] and destroying the Ember Spirit.
[01:11:27] Monkey if he is gonna be playing from the mid lane
[01:11:29] He's also a Mage Slayer buyer even from the mid lane he's also a mage slayer buyer even from
[01:11:32] the safe lane this is something that boxy we gotta give
[01:11:35] him credit because nine class wanted to steal his spotlight
[01:11:39] play his morphing position 4, which Boxy theorycrafted himself.
[01:11:44] He had a dream.
[01:11:45] I don't know if he had a dream,
[01:11:45] but to focus on more,
[01:11:47] this is a flex pick again
[01:11:49] and we've seen quite a lot of Rubicks
[01:11:51] plus Morphlings on the same team when there is a sinking available
[01:11:55] so you basically become as strong as like you have two sankings pretty much in the theme
[01:12:01] i mean rubik could be very tempting too versus jokiro and sen can get an impale
[01:12:05] on an ice bath then your morphling could cover that to you if you're just gonna
[01:12:08] run for more flame maybe if they pick rubic here though
[01:12:12] they'll be doubling down a little bit too much
[01:12:14] on the concept of stealing the Burrow String.
[01:12:17] I do want to talk about the Chikiro for a second.
[01:12:19] I-I do like this pick against the Monkey King
[01:12:21] because I feel like this makes it so that Falcons
[01:12:24] can flex the Sand King to offlane, and Crit has been playing some J'Kyro.
[01:12:27] And I think J'Kyro does extremely well against Monkey King in lane because she has the attack speed slow,
[01:12:32] Monkey needs to hit you four times in order to meet a strong hero.
[01:12:36] So this gives Falcons the option
[01:12:38] to flex the Sand King too offlane
[01:12:40] It's not much of an Amar Hero
[01:12:42] like we're used to seeing him on the Slarks
[01:12:44] and Timbersaws but I'm sure he can do it if it's necessary.
[01:12:47] You always have to have that in the back of your mind
[01:12:48] If you're liquid.
[01:12:50] Oh!
[01:12:51] It's coming out.
[01:12:52] All right.
[01:12:53] Okay, that's gotta be a four more fling now.
[01:12:55] You got to shift this thing right now.
[01:12:57] Also, here's the issue
[01:12:59] Monkey King core suffers
[01:13:01] versus AA too because he gets
[01:13:03] all of his sustenance through his Jingu
[01:13:05] and that gets countered by Ice Blast too. Like both the
[01:13:08] Morphling plus Monkey King Flexes
[01:13:10] to core are countered by AA
[01:13:12] And not only that, this Gyro himself
[01:13:14] is countered by AA, so you're protecting
[01:13:16] him here too. This is a really beautiful draft by Hawkins.
[01:13:19] They picked the Gyro, so
[01:13:20] Team Liquid wants to run the Morph as a carry
[01:13:23] because you turn into the Gyro, steal the Flak
[01:13:24] and become a better version of Gyro. It's a counter.
[01:13:27] But you can't run the Mor morph as a carry because there's an
[01:13:29] aa which counters the morphing when he's played in the carry position but then
[01:13:32] like you said you don't want to run the monkey king as a carry either this is
[01:13:35] a very good pick from falcons i was thinking about aa
[01:13:38] as a counter to the like pipe mech meta in general.
[01:13:42] I'm surprised to see it only come out here in the Lord Rekka finals.
[01:13:46] It's the first AA pick of the tournament, Considering how much healing we have, how
[01:13:51] tanky heroes are, I'm a little surprised
[01:13:53] that somebody didn't try to
[01:13:54] pick it earlier.
[01:13:56] I do want to interrupt you guys for
[01:13:59] a quick moment because we've got something special here in our draft is is perch and the moon meander
[01:14:04] Hey, thanks. We are here watching the draft
[01:14:07] I'm sitting with Moon moon yet suspended because of the ench and Chen bans that Falcons would ban Beastmaster but Liquid got it anyways. What's up with that?
[01:14:16] Liquid is very reliant on this patch with Auras and 33 Beastmasters is his best hero to build Aurus on because he accelerates
[01:14:24] the game with this drop in Aghanim's timing every game.
[01:14:28] Is AA a good solution against that though? I think you've got some anti-healing, it makes
[01:14:31] him less tanky, it's good against the Morphling, even if
[01:14:33] it's a support.
[01:14:34] Yes AA is really good this patch uh
[01:14:36] that's just the strategy Falcons did
[01:14:37] against us in the scrim they were trying
[01:14:39] to AA against Morphing 4
[01:14:40] The reason why morphing four is really
[01:14:42] strong because he has unlimited sustain in lane
[01:14:44] He can just try to energy morph all the way back
[01:14:48] and then shrink morphe back to full
[01:14:50] However, AA in lane you gotta be careful
[01:14:52] Because of level 2
[01:14:53] He has this Ice V that can just instantly kill
[01:14:55] you if you're like caught like edgy morphing gotcha no who do you think is winning the draft so far
[01:15:01] i think falcons is winning the draft so far because
[01:15:05] Falcon's teamfight is insane into Team Liquid's timing push lineup.
[01:15:09] Not only do they have all, they read the Beastmaster
[01:15:12] They pre-picked a Gyaracopter which is a good laning against the Beastmaster already and they picked Beastmaster into it anyway.
[01:15:17] And if the AA against the Morph so this Morphling won't be tanky
[01:15:20] and he can only buy the Guardian Greaves that he wants to buy because of the AA.
[01:15:24] Alright great well we'll send it back to the panel, Matt and the others.
[01:15:28] Fantastic!
[01:15:29] Fantastic insight there
[01:15:31] from Moon. So lucky
[01:15:32] to have Coach standing by with him.
[01:15:34] I love this preemptiveness, exactly why the AA was coming out because despite having a 52% win
[01:15:39] rate as a support in high-end pubs first time uncontested before this one so we've got some
[01:15:46] reason and we've got some reason we've got some
[01:15:48] insight and also a little bit more into the build that you want to do
[01:15:50] in that lane against them all yeah it's uh
[01:15:53] it's an interesting thing i mean i remember at the start of this tournament
[01:15:56] there was not a lot of Sven 5 being picked
[01:15:59] even though it's the most picked support in pubs.
[01:16:01] So sometimes there is a difference between 8k MMR plus pubs
[01:16:06] which are pretty much pro level pubs and competitive.
[01:16:08] And then the hero eventually comes out,
[01:16:09] it's kind of like okay well yeah that makes sense
[01:16:11] everybody's playing against it on a daily basis
[01:16:13] so they understand it
[01:16:15] And the Slork comes out as a ban
[01:16:17] this is something that Amar does play, he
[01:16:20] did play it when they were playing against
[01:16:22] Thundra the same matchup against the Monkey King
[01:16:24] I believe he died pretty much
[01:16:26] He died for the first blood but still
[01:16:28] managed to carry the game very annoying and they wouldn't have enough
[01:16:31] aoe to deal with them so that's a really good ban you need some added front line now for falcons
[01:16:37] they bound up the mars which would have anchored their fight very well. I mean other options for Falcons could be Tidehunter or Centaur
[01:16:44] just you know a hero to start the fight
[01:16:46] be a big body for you
[01:16:47] and give a lot of follow-up damage coming out of Shakira
[01:16:49] on AA and your Jyro. Pango comes out here for
[01:16:52] Team Liquid. This hero
[01:16:54] still very popular, still run
[01:16:56] amongst the three teams left in this
[01:16:58] tournament. All their mid laners love Pango.
[01:17:00] Yeah? And looking at the Mario's hero pool i'm looking at two range heroes
[01:17:04] venge maybe razor that can come out from the offlane oh god just that you have a good laning
[01:17:10] matchup against this monkey king please Please no, not the Venge.
[01:17:13] I don't like Razor against Morphite there.
[01:17:15] He turned into the Razor.
[01:17:16] I think that Team Liquid has done a really good job
[01:17:19] at picking a draft
[01:17:20] that it's hard to pick an Amara hero
[01:17:22] into but teams have tried this before and he just goes Timbersaw that it's hard to pick an Amar hero into.
[01:17:25] But teams have tried this before, and he just goes Timbersaw.
[01:17:27] So...
[01:17:30] This man played like 10 thousand games on Timbersaw
[01:17:32] so he knows all the matchups
[01:17:35] It's like, oh Monkey King in the lane there's nothing I can do. So that's also still a possibility
[01:17:37] He doesn't pretty much care about
[01:17:39] the match ups when he is playing that Timber
[01:17:41] I actually remember Aoi saying that he thinks
[01:17:43] Timber is a counter to Monkey because you can just cut the wave on
[01:17:45] timber and then you cut his trees.
[01:17:47] So, I don't know if he still believes
[01:17:49] that because wave cutting is harder
[01:17:51] on timber now that the reactive armor has been nerfed.
[01:17:57] Oh, that was the end of your thought i thought it was going to be a little bit more about like
[01:17:59] an alternative throwing out there or not but i liked it there's there's not much that would
[01:18:04] look good in this draft i think think you just need something, some
[01:18:06] added body for your gyro
[01:18:08] because you have double range. You really just need a body
[01:18:10] to throw in there. Yep, there it is.
[01:18:12] Classic of Mario. And like you mentioned
[01:18:15] Jenkins, the Jakiro early on in the draft does kind of help alleviate
[01:18:19] the tension from the Monkey King safe lane where there is a hero that does very well
[01:18:22] against it so that you can pick a melee hero because a third ranged here would have been
[01:18:26] way too difficult to run for falcons
[01:18:29] i actually think the jokiro makes it so that uh the timber doesn't lose lane to monkey
[01:18:36] i remember the way that you would previously play this, is you would just
[01:18:39] Max Q and W on
[01:18:41] Timber, and just out-damage the
[01:18:43] Monkey, and try not to let him get like four
[01:18:45] Jingu stacks, and with the Jakiro, that's kind of
[01:18:47] easy. I'm not sure how it's played on this patch because the nukes
[01:18:49] were nerfed but I think probably
[01:18:51] that's the way he'll do it. Level 1 and level 2
[01:18:53] in that matchup is pretty bad for Monkey
[01:18:55] He needs that second point in Jingu
[01:18:57] You might get false sense of security that you can trade with one level of
[01:19:01] jingu but you're gonna get bursted down by timber maxing out his spells and also jakiro this hero
[01:19:07] when he hits level two the damage output is insane.
[01:19:10] Looking at both of the drafts I feel like Team Falcons they have this one
[01:19:13] Ancient Apparition a hero that I wanted to see
[01:19:16] This is the first showing off the hero
[01:19:17] I feel like it shut down what they want to do
[01:19:19] The healing from Beastmaster more fling and uh
[01:19:21] what else did they have they have one more healing hero monkey i believe yes
[01:19:25] and it is a carry it's mckay playing it but it is a cool-down hero
[01:19:29] and for me this game is just about the off-liners. It's going to be 3-3 versus Amar
[01:19:33] which hero hits their timings faster
[01:19:34] and brings more tempo?
[01:19:36] We're gonna get some more words from Blitz
[01:19:38] and Purge right now about the draft.
[01:19:40] Hey Blitz what's the tension like between you guys
[01:19:43] in this match? Skeeter DM'd
[01:19:45] me on Instagram and said we don't have to worry about getting
[01:19:47] second because they've got this one but
[01:19:48] these guys are clowns and this one's free.
[01:19:52] Okay, great. Moon was asking about the draft
[01:19:54] he said what's going to be your plan
[01:19:55] to end this game? Are you worried
[01:19:56] about going high ground against all their AOE?
[01:19:59] No I feel like we're gonna hit a pretty nice
[01:20:00] pipe timing. I feel like their heroes
[01:20:02] should be a little bit slow.
[01:20:03] And as long as mid is kind of okay,
[01:20:05] we should just roll through lanes.
[01:20:08] Were you surprised that
[01:20:09] you were able to get the Beastmaster?
[01:20:10] He thought your Chen and Enchant bands
[01:20:12] telegraphed things.
[01:20:13] Yeah, I mean, I was a little bit surprised because he had his own He thought that your Chenin and Chain fans kind of telegraphed things.
[01:20:14] Yeah, I mean, I thought it was a little bit surprising but clearly they think
[01:20:17] they have an answer and it's kinda just a coin flip as to whether we were
[01:20:20] correct or they were correct here.
[01:20:22] And what about the AA? We haven't seen much this tournament.
[01:20:24] Moonset is good but almost nobody's picking it.
[01:20:26] Obviously anti-healing is good against Morph.
[01:20:29] Yeah I mean if there's a good game for it,
[01:20:30] It's probably this one. Maybe they were just trying to cover all their angles
[01:20:32] in case this was a Morph carry.
[01:20:34] But we'll see, I haven't...
[01:20:35] We haven't played against a hero in so long
[01:20:37] so I have no idea.
[01:20:38] Do you even know what his facets are?
[01:20:39] Because I don't.
[01:20:40] I have zero idea, no.
[01:20:41] If only Sheeva was here.
[01:20:42] I know she plays that hero every single game of her life.
[01:20:45] What about the gyro against the beast?
[01:20:46] Do you think that lane is a little bit worrisome
[01:20:48] since he's going to murder all his little friends?
[01:20:50] Yeah, it's like Skeeter's go-to
[01:20:52] I feel like hands are kind of shaky
[01:20:54] and so you need a hero to pick
[01:20:55] It's like Skeeter Gyrocopter, very reliable.
[01:20:57] It should be good yeah.
[01:20:58] What about the Timbersaw?
[01:21:00] Amarr's Timber saw is great
[01:21:02] You're not afraid of it though?
[01:21:04] I mean it's just a Timbersaw
[01:21:06] It's Amarr we've had like eight
[01:21:08] heroes you know i don't get given 15 bands so there's only so much i can do
[01:21:12] that's true you did your best well good luck in the match cheers thank you Here we go ladies and gentlemen getting ready for Team Falcons up against Team Liquid.
[01:21:25] And my goodness, I mean we heard there you know it seemed too fast or maybe they were because as
[01:21:29] blitz said she can't ban all of them are sure but fifth pick timber saw i feel like falcons
[01:21:36] amarr they only do this when they know that the game is theirs and
[01:21:40] they're normally right for it. Yeah
[01:21:42] he does have some crazy win rate on
[01:21:44] this here and he always seems to know how to itemize
[01:21:46] I think that's the thing I like to talk about him the most
[01:21:48] besides him just being the best timber in the world he buys different
[01:21:50] items it feels like almost every game if he sees an opportunity for like a ewells game he sees
[01:21:54] an ag's rush game akaya rush game he hasn't done the blink so much now but he used to do stuff
[01:21:58] like that he always adapts so yeah let's see if Team Liquid has brought a strategy that can actually work versus this fifth pick timber and of course we have to talk
[01:22:05] About the say, hey, we do we just don't get it a lot
[01:22:07] It's definitely one of those heroes that in practice right?
[01:22:10] It's the ice block you see the meta that we're
[01:22:12] in we're getting a lot of these more things and social course this game it's not a support mall
[01:22:15] thing but still the element at the ice blast can completely ruin uh some of the popular heroes
[01:22:21] right now that do rely on that regen,
[01:22:22] the burst heal and even this game,
[01:22:23] of course with another Monkey King.
[01:22:25] With Jingu Mastery Heal coming into play but I've got to only imagine
[01:22:29] that there's a lot of reasons why this hero ain't that great
[01:22:32] right now because no one else is playing like
[01:22:35] what are the weak points and what are maybe the concerns for falcons when you're picking
[01:22:38] this hair in this game it's just sometimes you just run into this form of lack of disable
[01:22:41] because it has this five position that you do sometimes want to have that
[01:22:44] hello and this time they did cover it early on right they had the sankin jekiro really quickly
[01:22:48] picked up fast and then even do have missile which isn't the most reliable kind of stun or anything
[01:22:52] but it is things to allow this hero to be able to catch some of these
[01:22:55] ultimates in these positions so definitely important we'll have to see four staffs glimmers
[01:22:58] etc perhaps coming out for the side of liquid and of course as they said that pipe which i'm wondering
[01:23:02] who's gonna build the pipe and when because
[01:23:04] Beastmaster it usually takes some time you use your wire eggs yes then maybe
[01:23:08] we're going to play back there or something but I don't know
[01:23:10] I'm not sure who's gonna actually have a way I mean blitz was Sam right he felt
[01:23:14] confident about their pipe timing yeah so we're gonna have to
[01:23:17] see that in practice or is boxy going to do some type of pipe morphing or something i mean
[01:23:20] we'll have to see what to see what they do i reckon most likely it's 33 going out i think
[01:23:24] so too yeah and the other thing too is he's just gonna take
[01:23:27] too much time it's just to be a bit awkward
[01:23:28] get other things done on them all but
[01:23:31] was either way someone's gonna build it if they
[01:23:33] don't that's gonna be concerning A because
[01:23:35] it's very good part game and because we heard from Coach
[01:23:37] Blitz that that was part of the plan at least
[01:23:39] from his perspective. Absolutely.
[01:23:41] We'll see what the move is from Liquid. Either way
[01:23:43] as I said at the start of this all, this is
[01:23:45] going to be a big challenge for liquid if they're able
[01:23:47] to take this game against falcons getting a last pick timber saw that's gonna be beyond
[01:23:52] impressive but yeah so far i don't think any of the teams are capable of doing that no it
[01:23:56] doesn't seem like it.
[01:23:59] So other things I do have to mention too is besides just the Ice Blast,
[01:24:01] Ice Vortex is pretty insane in this meta.
[01:24:04] I felt like we were actually going
[01:24:05] to see this hero more
[01:24:06] because Sanctum just became...
[01:24:07] You know, Sanctum's being picked every game. Jekiro's
[01:24:09] even being picked for pretty much the majority of these games too so
[01:24:12] can't ever scoff at something like
[01:24:13] Ice Vortex cause even though yes there'll be
[01:24:15] a pipe and stuff potentially
[01:24:17] it kind of makes that, it nullifies a lot of that pipe and they
[01:24:20] have a ton of magic damage.
[01:24:22] Gyrocopter, he maxes barrage in almost every instance.
[01:24:24] He plays super active. All the spells
[01:24:26] are going to be amped up pretty much throughout the lineup.
[01:24:28] I know we're going back to the the draft but of course we've got time
[01:24:31] the pause is coming in i think it's pretty interesting you'll think as well that they
[01:24:36] actually did consider in this game the uh the amasark more of a threat than the amar timber did you sort of understand
[01:24:44] why that would have been the case from uh liquid perspective during this draft do you agree with
[01:24:49] that or would you in that situation,
[01:24:52] rather have dealt with the Slark than the Timberslip?
[01:24:54] I think I would probably
[01:24:55] have wanted to dealt with the Slark
[01:24:56] but I can say...
[01:24:56] Crit.
[01:24:56] Insania, be careful
[01:24:57] how you step up here
[01:24:59] it does an absurd amount of damage.
[01:25:00] He's got a Bearfire!
[01:25:02] Oi! He's not going to get him though and i'll crit maybe getting baited himself a tp
[01:25:07] heads up play that was close then it's like we're just gonna be able to
[01:25:10] get another hit but he didn't grip gets! No first blood to be had quite yet.
[01:25:14] That's kind of a little bit of a Jib bait play from both sides.
[01:25:17] Yeah it really is.
[01:25:18] I think we've seen this one now coming out a little more even
[01:25:20] and just the skill matchup of who's getting hit if you do
[01:25:22] get like a stun to block a shield's getting hit if you do get like
[01:25:23] a stun to block a shield
[01:25:24] crash or something if
[01:25:25] you get these big stinger
[01:25:26] explosions it can be
[01:25:27] devastating but pango
[01:25:27] has just done good in
[01:25:29] almost every single
[01:25:29] matchup that we've seen
[01:25:30] so should be yeah the
[01:25:31] skill matchup will see
[01:25:32] how that one ends up going and then bottom you heard
[01:25:35] it from moon himself you know they pre-picked this gyrocopter to answer the beastmaster early
[01:25:39] on in the laning phase since you can just run him down but also kill those boars and
[01:25:42] hawks with your flag and then they picked the Beastmaster into it anyway,
[01:25:45] so Liquid wanted to play this hero
[01:25:47] and didn't seem to not have been fussed about that matchup.
[01:25:50] So quick other thing about the Slark...
[01:25:52] I'm trying to think about why
[01:25:54] maybe they wanted to get rid of it also.
[01:25:56] It's perhaps the save function,
[01:25:58] because Depth Shroud is very good
[01:25:59] versus Beastmaster in particular
[01:26:00] if you're not focusing the Slark
[01:26:02] who's able to get that onto one of his cores and stuff.
[01:26:04] And Amar's just annoying on it,
[01:26:05] so maybe it's something
[01:26:07] along those lines.
[01:26:07] But yeah,
[01:26:08] they'll have to deal with the Timber.
[01:26:09] They will for this game
[01:26:11] and depending on how
[01:26:12] this game goes,
[01:26:13] we may not see it again
[01:26:16] in this series
[01:26:16] if this ends up being a rough game for Liquid
[01:26:18] and Falcons are able to take it.
[01:26:21] Yeah, let's see how top ends
[01:26:22] up going in particular as I said. Level 3
[01:26:24] is the main timing for TheMonkeyKing to be able
[01:26:26] to apply pressure onto the timber saw and also with
[01:26:28] crit having the tp out early it does give milk a good start here since that attack speed slow
[01:26:32] from the dual breath also was not leveled up so yeah he should be able to get those stacks
[01:26:36] up until level two comes out and Crit's able
[01:26:38] to counteract it.
[01:26:39] But that's the theory of this lane is them just trying not allowing him to get those
[01:26:43] stacks.
[01:26:48] So far Amarr is going to be struggling a little bit at least slow down a bit
[01:26:50] as we see there though undefeated on this sort
[01:26:55] so as i say really real challenge liquid they're gonna have to do something at the sort of performing
[01:27:04] a level beyond what they've been playing out and they've already been playing of course
[01:27:07] with fantastic level to get this far in the tournament but to beat an armada
[01:27:13] staying low i gotta watch something else i gotta keep watching this mid a nisha's playing this
[01:27:17] beautifully contesting every single deny forced a sandstorm back at the tower from Malrein too
[01:27:21] so he's doing excellent in the mid lane right now.
[01:27:23] It looks like it could be a first blood this time round
[01:27:26] and they catch him with the slur
[01:27:27] Primal spring!
[01:27:28] And he wants to put a deny for neutral T-car
[01:27:30] McKay able to deny the neutral t-car okay have a fine first blood nicely done level three's
[01:27:35] been hit so they've got these jingu stacks up kurt has to be more careful with this positioning
[01:27:40] there though step up a bit far i believe he went for a courier snipe.
[01:27:43] Maybe got baited a little bit there.
[01:27:47] And Boxy, he's gonna be
[01:27:49] even more annoying. So Malrean
[01:27:50] probably wants to go for the fill-up into the bottle there from Pritt,
[01:27:54] since they did kill Privat Bruin contestant.
[01:27:56] Now Nisha steps up quite aggressively.
[01:27:58] Didn't expect Pritt to sort of be in position to fight back.
[01:28:00] He's going to be out with TP but only just.
[01:28:03] But has to get sent back
[01:28:04] to base so we'll see maureen very likely catch back up there on the cs over overzealous stepping
[01:28:11] up there that i mean doesn't see in particular they they were keeping in but yeah a good tp from crit
[01:28:18] now of course gotta be something you expect to imagine when the support dies
[01:28:23] especially if you're denying his water ruins on the side too like that's when
[01:28:26] it's like oh yeah these are gonna be people yeah i mean yeah even white knee shelves doesn't get
[01:28:31] punished right it was close though if he did go down there that would have been quite a mistake
[01:28:36] yep and let's see how the stacks end up going
[01:28:36] down think of the
[01:28:37] Sand King even if
[01:28:38] the lane does get
[01:28:39] maybe not perfect
[01:28:40] for you you just
[01:28:40] go back and get
[01:28:41] the stacks they
[01:28:41] did not actually
[01:28:42] block these so
[01:28:42] choice from Team
[01:28:43] Liquid to not
[01:28:43] go for those
[01:28:44] that are
[01:28:44] prioritizing on
[01:28:45] the other lanes
[01:28:45] sometimes you do see versus
[01:28:46] Sand King or SF, or these Flash Farmers
[01:28:49] that does get stacked out.
[01:28:51] And of course we'll see Beastmaster struggling
[01:28:53] but he's getting those stacks up and ready
[01:28:54] as we tend to see. But he's not struggling as much as i expected him to
[01:28:57] he's got 20 cs which isn't so bad however it's zero contest on the skater yeah absolutely okay
[01:29:04] feel right here mark interested maybe going back in now to help read out the initial first
[01:29:10] do rep me and on towards my case trying to survive it through the life skills
[01:29:14] able to take grit down so come on can get him in return. He's got to be careful
[01:29:19] here indeed. Mikkei stands his ground,
[01:29:21] Amar at the moment not quite
[01:29:23] at the level where he has the best to truly threaten
[01:29:25] the Monkey King. Mm-hmm. Mikkei going
[01:29:27] standard kind of build here with the Orb of Corrosion very effective when you're
[01:29:29] playing versus any of these sustained heroes in the lane.
[01:29:31] Krent since he dies back to the midlane and goes to fill up.
[01:29:35] Can he secure Power Rune?
[01:29:36] Nisha, he's hit level six already.
[01:29:40] Instant D ward as well.
[01:29:43] They can't go for him, he has the Rolling Thunder
[01:29:45] and is able to get across
[01:29:46] it's going up to the top
[01:29:47] powering in is Nisha
[01:29:49] to come around with a good angle here does not have the vision himself
[01:30:00] they kill skitter oh boy two of them that's you how did i think they just get
[01:30:06] chills out of nowhere really how did they get the bottom one but i know
[01:30:09] they've been moving around and stuff but but wow. Getting the gyro pop up with this lane.
[01:30:12] He's ready to fight!
[01:30:13] He's gonna jump in aggressively towards Amar.
[01:30:15] Battlestat comes in to stop the Timber Chain.
[01:30:17] Amar is in trouble.
[01:30:18] Jump fall from Boxy.
[01:30:19] They're getting kills on all lanes here Liquid.
[01:30:21] 6-0. Six minutes in. Pitcher perfect early. they're getting kills on all lanes here liquid six to zero
[01:30:22] six minutes in picture perfect early game i cannot the bottom lane in
[01:30:25] particular is the most surprised that they're able to bring down skittles
[01:30:28] falcons must have been playing aggressive or something going through
[01:30:30] themselves like that.
[01:30:34] Boxxy in 33 working their magic,
[01:30:36] Boxxy particularly on his four more fling.
[01:30:38] It's been pretty outstanding.
[01:30:39] Not every single game,
[01:30:41] but when it does pop off in this hero,
[01:30:45] can do some crazy stuff and he has a really good spouse to turn into as we do see even versus the timber and stuff so pretty cool see what he's going to be able
[01:30:50] to do when he does get just turn into some of these heroes and use their abilities against them
[01:30:57] and yeah the beast getting a kill
[01:31:02] super hot stuff from Liquid on the lanes.
[01:31:04] With their lineup, is that kind of expected
[01:31:06] for them to have the edge in the laning stage?
[01:31:09] They tend to draft for lanes
[01:31:10] That's kinda how Liquid likes to play overall
[01:31:12] especially going for this Monkey King Mikke
[01:31:15] A lot of people are playing it but I feel like Mick is just the specialist
[01:31:18] on it. They seem to do very well when he does
[01:31:20] play it. So far things are looking
[01:31:22] excellent and they have shut down this last pick
[01:31:24] timber so far. In the laning phase its net worth is quite
[01:31:27] long things are very good for them to build a pressure 2aa there's other cons there's another
[01:31:32] uh thing about this heroes you can just get ran down a lot of times. You can feed pretty easy on this hero.
[01:31:36] It's a nice one to feed on.
[01:31:39] It is, it is.
[01:31:42] Once he starts,
[01:31:43] you just can't stop him sometimes.
[01:31:45] We'll see if...
[01:31:46] Snake King professional player will be able to slow down
[01:31:48] the dying he's died twice already but uh well it gets crazy
[01:31:52] snaking usually does have quite a bit of that so oh that's not
[01:31:57] don't give the support that's dying the aa it's only going to
[01:31:59] get worse but he's got good levels that's the one thing he's actually almost level six already at
[01:32:03] this point in eight minutes since that's pretty outstanding so getting quite a bit down there
[01:32:07] maybe getting some extra bores and stuff I wasn't able to
[01:32:09] see at the start, because Skeeter's also level 6, so
[01:32:11] getting a lot out of this bot lane, even though they did
[01:32:13] die on the Gyrocopter their high level.
[01:32:16] And he'll find a D-Ward which actually pushes
[01:32:17] him to 6. Snee has 6, 8 minutes
[01:32:20] 30 seconds. Which is very
[01:32:22] fast especially if you die in the lane. That's true
[01:32:24] It doesn't matter how much
[01:32:26] your feed on it if you hit your Ice Blast
[01:32:28] And speaking of that Ice Blast blast it might come in a bit unexpected
[01:32:31] let's get the hit onto insania quite some new shave away they're not gonna have to follow up
[01:32:36] to bring anything below the thresholds but just getting them off we'd have to back away that was an opportunity just maybe sees
[01:32:43] you know because they i don't think they expect this a to be six this early on
[01:32:46] because looking at the other supports nobody else is even nobody else is that close yet
[01:32:53] boxy is actually because he's now been given the lane since 33 is getting jungled yeah 33 being able to jungle this point after getting a kill look at his net
[01:32:57] worth on this beast it's phenomenal you're doing great. We've seen beasts off to...
[01:33:02] I feel like usually the beast is off
[01:33:04] to a pretty tough start,
[01:33:05] they have some sort of way
[01:33:07] to shut him down during
[01:33:08] the laning phase and whatever
[01:33:10] plan they had here,
[01:33:11] as you say,
[01:33:12] the idea was picking the jar
[01:33:13] it's trying to scare him off this is why they weren't scared of
[01:33:15] picking the beast anymore absolutely right line
[01:33:19] trying to work himself away boxy is making the move so he's joshua
[01:33:24] well amma's pretty prepared for this one
[01:33:26] now i'm going to catch him out plays it
[01:33:28] safe somebody get that get out of the
[01:33:30] lane smoking bottom they want to try to
[01:33:32] pressure 33. they know he's having way too good of a time,
[01:33:34] Maureen. Looking for
[01:33:37] position. There's a defensive ward placed on
[01:33:38] 33 and he is healthy. On top
[01:33:41] of that, he's not squishy. He has the Siege of Serenity
[01:33:43] that he's kept himself full HP at.
[01:33:44] Ogre Axe too, so 1500 HP on this beast.
[01:33:47] Not an easy kill commit but they will just steal the stacks and attempt to.
[01:33:50] They'll probably be able to get this neutral stack at least.
[01:33:53] This is going to die pretty easily. Sam's still on the way.
[01:33:56] He scares off.
[01:33:58] Okay, and Nidia doesn't want to stick around
[01:34:00] and try and burst it with a fire strike.
[01:34:02] Has to use it to get away from Nisha.
[01:34:04] Hiding in the trees! I think they know he's there
[01:34:14] she's scared but uh they definitely know he's here oh wait oh my god okay nearly able to do something that indeed is gonna be slowed down. Does not have a TP available and even if he did
[01:34:18] wouldn't be able to use it.
[01:34:19] Crit goes down, Liquid are able
[01:34:21] make sure that this area of the map is kept safe
[01:34:23] The Falcons are forced out
[01:34:25] Smashing this early game so far
[01:34:26] Even Boxy I'm seeing what he's doing He's being very annoying versus Amar SMASHING THIS EARLY GAME SO FAR. EVEN BOXY, I'M SEEING WHAT HE'S DOING.
[01:34:27] HE'S BEING VERY ANNOYING VERSUS AMAR.
[01:34:29] HE'S JUST SHIFTING.
[01:34:30] HE'S TURNING INTO THE TIMBER AND WHEN AMAR GOES TO
[01:34:32] FARM ANCIENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT,
[01:34:33] HE JUST TIMBER CHAINS IN, THROWS A WORDLING DEATH.
[01:34:35] SO IT'S VERY PESKY.
[01:34:37] I LOVE WHAT TEAM LIQUID IS DOING RIGHT NOW WITH THIS PRESSURE 8-0. in, throws a Whirling Death. So it's very pesky. I love what Team Liquid is doing right
[01:34:39] now with this pressure 8-0 so far.
[01:34:43] Do lose their bottom tower but
[01:34:45] either way they've done phenomenal
[01:34:46] on this lane. That's a crazy good start.
[01:34:49] And that could enhance that timing for the
[01:34:51] Pipe to come up very fast, like Blitz was saying.
[01:34:54] The Aghanims into Pipe perhaps could just be
[01:34:55] that build for Beastmaster to look to surround him.
[01:34:58] Misha getting active.
[01:35:02] There we go, Bal balance to set up onto a mark
[01:35:06] it's worth the chain they're going to continue to chase with the four of them here tp's have to come in and throw an attempt to help him out but he's already got
[01:35:08] the kill and now now they do not want
[01:35:11] to fight this. They can't fight Liquid
[01:35:12] in this area, even on their side of the map. Liquid
[01:35:15] at the moment too strong for Falcons
[01:35:17] to tackle head-on. And they
[01:35:18] are going to steal pretty much everything here, Nisha off to a
[01:35:21] phenomenal start and he's gonna go the Mage Slayer
[01:35:23] route that we saw a couple other players do
[01:35:25] which is very good this game versus the Mass
[01:35:27] Magic damage so throw a Pipe at a Mage Slayer
[01:35:29] majority of that damage early game is going to be
[01:35:32] negated from falcons it's going to be skitter who does pretty much all the ways
[01:35:36] he's just gonna be tickling a little bit and then we've got a bit of pure coming out
[01:35:38] from the timber so yeah but the timber is very shut down after this
[01:35:41] thing mid he's gonna go for the setup here and
[01:35:46] snake king's around top out nice little jukes nisha won't want to
[01:35:49] play around that close to tower anymore because mario crick skidder turned up
[01:35:52] turn up in their numbers they're going
[01:35:53] to try and see if they can find something for the waveforms up on boxing falcons they won't get a
[01:35:57] killer out this one gotta try to pressure tower here they want to try to get something out of
[01:36:01] this movement where they bring four.
[01:36:03] But in the meanwhile, Team Liquid's just getting
[01:36:05] this farm going, three components
[01:36:06] of the Aghanims already done for that Beastmaster pick.
[01:36:12] And they finish off this tower.
[01:36:13] Rolling Thunder still on cooldown. Are they gonna look Can they finish off this tower?
[01:36:14] Rolling Thunder still on cooldown.
[01:36:15] Are they going to look to rotate perhaps even Mikkei,
[01:36:17] and who's also gone Mage Slayer?
[01:36:19] So there—they're like tripling down
[01:36:21] perhaps onto this Magic Negation versus Team Falcons
[01:36:23] which looks quite strong especially in the early game.
[01:36:27] That's no surprise there with the change up
[01:36:29] in the build as you say, prioritize the mage
[01:36:31] that at this point will be the fastest we've seen
[01:36:34] on a Monkey king i think
[01:36:36] i think it was him who did it the last time too but not sure i just i remember seeing another one
[01:36:40] of these major players early on and looked very good because we're seeing just yet rise
[01:36:43] of sandking and all this so definitely very strong if he's able to
[01:36:46] get that onto any of these targets which in team
[01:36:49] fights he will yeah absolutely absolutely i guess the only
[01:36:52] there's what the trade-off here when you go for this it's
[01:36:55] it's not going to speed up your farming rate.
[01:36:56] So if the game starts
[01:36:58] to fall into a bit more
[01:36:59] of a passive state...
[01:37:00] I mean,
[01:37:00] it's Monkey King
[01:37:01] even without like
[01:37:02] Maelstrom or something
[01:37:03] farms pretty quickly
[01:37:03] especially with this
[01:37:04] you've got the mana regen
[01:37:05] to sustain like
[01:37:06] Primal Spring in a round. But he's playing for aggression i don't
[01:37:08] think liquid is looking to be that type of slow pace team you can see a skill point he's 314. so
[01:37:13] when you see it if you want to slow down and get farm on these monkeys you go for the max primal
[01:37:16] and this is kind of the archetype
[01:37:18] about Team Liquid, right?
[01:37:19] They don't like to really play
[01:37:20] those farm games.
[01:37:21] Yes if it comes to it they'll
[01:37:22] sometimes do it but
[01:37:23] they want to be dictators
[01:37:24] of tempo and super aggressive
[01:37:25] with items and these heroes
[01:37:26] Sure
[01:37:27] Yeah this is very ideal
[01:37:28] for it so double mage slayers and so far maril reen still
[01:37:32] struggling also you know these two cores definitely getting impacted from the way that
[01:37:36] he's leaning the lane went down so So, no blink still.
[01:37:39] His timing's working out for him
[01:37:40] because at 33 just about to have his Agnum done...
[01:37:43] It's so fast.
[01:37:45] ...the timing that they're smashing in this game
[01:37:47] we already saw both Pango and Monkey King hitting the fastest-made Slayer rushes we've seen.
[01:37:54] 9 to 0, they're keeping that 4k lead growing not giving up even a CM or anything.
[01:37:59] Sometimes in these games like a crystal maiden does get picked
[01:38:00] off from a move so far even insania dodging the moves 10a it's last i saw
[01:38:07] yes it is maybe looking to catch them more for something low but
[01:38:10] boxy's not playing low
[01:38:14] just count things out as well checking out the shampan case because
[01:38:17] we'll skidder a chance to try and sneak finale once speed up
[01:38:22] and nobody's got back up behind him looking for not a big boundless strike
[01:38:26] connection falcons they're a little scared of time
[01:38:29] for the fight off to the side there's four
[01:38:31] maurin's gone another container as well
[01:38:34] the burst is coming out skidder falling low double kill for these issues he finishes
[01:38:37] it all off with the shield crash midday he got the woocombs come on down on the aaa snake
[01:38:41] it goes down fifth long four Amar he's caught by
[01:38:44] Nibalis Liquid. He's alone.
[01:38:46] He misses to Tipperjane!
[01:38:48] Amar is gonna be taken down slowly but
[01:38:50] surely it's a team wipe by Liquid
[01:38:52] here of 15 minutes in.
[01:38:54] Five for one, perfect fight
[01:38:56] They snipe Maureen on the side before he gets
[01:38:59] literally anything off
[01:39:00] they get the roar on Skeeter
[01:39:02] Beastmaster dies but a perfect move from Liquid
[01:39:04] Crazy stuff from Liquid.
[01:39:05] It's picture-perfect really.
[01:39:06] Yeah they're playing the best you've seen for them
[01:39:08] and as I say, they've already set the bar pretty high
[01:39:10] but turning up today in this game one against Valkens
[01:39:13] letting Amarr have his last pick timbersaw 15 minutes in liquid
[01:39:18] they're completely cruising on you they've got the answers so far 7k lead everything is just
[01:39:23] working out in their favor with a mark
[01:39:27] I'll have to break away
[01:39:28] on those final moments
[01:39:29] ooh
[01:39:30] missing the chain
[01:39:31] dies probably
[01:39:32] very likely anyway
[01:39:33] but either way
[01:39:34] does miss it
[01:39:34] playing fast they're going keep this the speed going
[01:39:38] over with a Mac coming out pretty soon premise he has it he's got it that's
[01:39:42] gonna be added into the next fight the next play we're not seeing the pipe
[01:39:45] comes straight up quite yet now we're getting to blink first see over in the river and second
[01:39:49] is gonna get jumped towards he's got back up mal rainey's going to
[01:39:52] drop the epicenter they won't ditch him don't take what they can
[01:39:54] they can kill onto the cm do they get anything more there's a missile heading
[01:39:57] away on mickey jump forward from more? There's a missile heading away on Mikke.
[01:39:58] Don't fall from the mark.
[01:39:59] It's a lot of birds.
[01:40:00] The Ice Blast is in and taking Mikke down.
[01:40:02] Here comes the roar.
[01:40:03] 33 and Nisha there ready to fight some kills
[01:40:04] in return.
[01:40:05] Rolling Thunder connects over towards Malorine.
[01:40:06] They've killed two of them off.
[01:40:08] Falcons, they get a 2 for 2 trade.
[01:40:09] All things considered, you know it's something
[01:40:11] for them.
[01:40:12] It's small.
[01:40:13] Too great.
[01:40:14] They're losing their mid.
[01:40:15] They're losing their off lane.
[01:40:16] Nisha is doing too much.
[01:40:17] They've got to find an answer somehow
[01:40:18] for this.
[01:40:20] It's a last pick Pango that also came into the pool
[01:40:21] and he is flawless
[01:40:22] 6-0-4
[01:40:24] catching Malrein
[01:40:25] every single time
[01:40:26] it feels like
[01:40:26] this time they will lose
[01:40:28] they will lose
[01:40:29] a little bit but it doesn't really matter.
[01:40:31] They do get so much out of him.
[01:40:33] But Falcons are at least happy to claim something for themselves.
[01:40:35] We've got the last hit that Skidder gets any of them.
[01:40:44] Much needed time to get the kills i see boxy cooing up the cloak it might just be him i think with the way that the early game has gone too
[01:40:46] that pipe it's still gonna be necessary but they don't need as much because they have
[01:40:50] these double mage slayers that kind of do similar
[01:40:51] to be able to reduce a lot of that damage.
[01:40:53] And yeah, their steamrolling moves and they're really breathing every play.
[01:40:57] Look at Falcons right now setting up bottom and Team Liquid's already prepared perhaps.
[01:41:00] They're going to try for the burst on 33.
[01:41:01] remember the virus tracking the ice blaster and actually had to pull up
[01:41:04] damage to bring 32 below the threshold he put a fan called coffee upon him but
[01:41:08] i've lost the two heroes they do get the job done uh but indeed at the cost of
[01:41:11] both with their lives.
[01:41:12] I mean, yeah, Smiles there on 33
[01:41:14] I don't think he cares.
[01:41:15] Mourine is throwing his life away
[01:41:17] to kill this Beastmaster.
[01:41:19] This doesn't slow down Liquid.
[01:41:20] No, 33 is super happy and speaking about slowing
[01:41:23] down, it's actually going to be Liquid who probably speeds up
[01:41:25] very soon because they have the potential
[01:41:27] to just do a rush at any moment.
[01:41:28] I think every time we've seen this Agsbeast come out
[01:41:30] most teams can go threaten it if
[01:41:32] they'd like to so something that team falcons is gonna have
[01:41:35] to be prepared in the next upcoming moments and nisha's farm is just crazy 11 000 so far
[01:41:40] made slayer blink two components of that agonist and of course gets blessed with the over destruction as well
[01:41:46] to on top so a free game so far for this tango you might have to just smoke blow everything
[01:41:53] sometimes soon in this early game because otherwise he might just not die
[01:41:56] that's the problem right they just kind of tried to do that albeit they only did it with two of
[01:42:01] them sure uh it didn't go very cleanly they're gonna try now with a four of them falcons see
[01:42:05] what i can find?
[01:42:06] They know that this rush
[01:42:06] is very likely to happen.
[01:42:07] You know,
[01:42:08] that Agonist Beast
[01:42:08] it's kind of that tell
[01:42:09] that timing
[01:42:10] that most teams
[01:42:10] have been going around
[01:42:11] so they're looking
[01:42:12] to play around it
[01:42:12] but Liquid
[01:42:13] they're playing smart
[01:42:14] they're not forcing
[01:42:14] it just yet
[01:42:15] perhaps expecting
[01:42:16] this fight
[01:42:17] he should come in through the portal so if we can get the jump again on 33
[01:42:21] did kill him last time now the backups here from nisha
[01:42:25] at an epicenter at the side.
[01:42:27] He's able to connect with a borrow strike.
[01:42:28] Ice Blast to follow up.
[01:42:29] Can they burst through?
[01:42:30] Nisha is having the shield crash on the Ice Blast!
[01:42:32] Straight into Pony and it brought Nisha down.
[01:42:36] But they're going to lose a lot.
[01:42:37] The two cores drop.
[01:42:38] It's just such a cost each and every time
[01:42:40] that they try and make these plays, Falcons.
[01:42:43] I don't blame them for just blowing everything onto Nisha.
[01:42:45] They have to try to slow his game down.
[01:42:47] Absolutely, they have to eliminate Mango tango but as we're saying even
[01:42:51] if they do that winning a team fight it's uh real kind of tall task for them right now and
[01:42:55] now into the pit liquid thing let go those two heroes get get on falcons no mallory no amar there'll be
[01:43:02] no team fight no contest off this rush they'll just back up try to get some farm efficiency but
[01:43:06] it dies fast on liquid with this beastmaster it's going down mic, SNY is done so versus these chain stuns there are definitely possibilities that if
[01:43:14] they don't do it perfectly he can get reset away and get away perhaps even from that AA
[01:43:18] blast.
[01:43:19] Status resistance gonna be nice for him.
[01:43:21] Do they have any repositioning yet?
[01:43:24] I see Boxy, he's just going to be
[01:43:26] going down the standard,
[01:43:26] back into the pipe and make it
[01:43:28] almost have a four-step on the CM
[01:43:29] so they will be able to push him out as well yeah
[01:43:33] he's pretty close right yeah i can go all the way and uh if indeed make everyone get this shot next
[01:43:39] off bs and y it's super nice. Also, just to sort of have
[01:43:43] that surprise movement in the middle of a fight
[01:43:45] it means it makes it that little bit harder for
[01:43:47] Snake King to line up his Ice Blast because Monkey
[01:43:48] King is at the other end of his Boundless Strike.
[01:43:51] Yeah, this shard is one
[01:43:52] of my favorite ones
[01:43:53] currently at the
[01:43:54] moment even though
[01:43:55] we don't see
[01:43:55] Monkey King too
[01:43:55] much because it's
[01:43:56] getting banned in a
[01:43:56] lot of games or
[01:43:57] some teams don't
[01:43:57] prefer to play it
[01:43:58] but it has
[01:43:59] offensive potential
[01:44:00] that defensive
[01:44:01] potential it has
[01:44:02] so many different
[01:44:02] things you can't do with
[01:44:03] itself at team liquid keeping this lead consistent here foxy
[01:44:12] they're trying to jump look ice glass will connect so he's got a lot of age to work
[01:44:19] with and stays himself shifted up coming in from the side snaking stead
[01:44:23] Oh Mallory thank you can't nobody get up there hi grab these oh that's the coming in from the side, Snake King's dead. Oh,
[01:44:24] Malrean.
[01:44:25] He's not able to get up
[01:44:25] to the high ground.
[01:44:26] Oh,
[01:44:26] that's a beautiful angle
[01:44:27] back there.
[01:44:29] One of the times
[01:44:30] you're very happy
[01:44:31] they stuck sort of
[01:44:31] between the walls
[01:44:32] of the cliff.
[01:44:32] It was perfect.
[01:44:33] He was kept right
[01:44:34] on top of the Sand King. and 33 just solo killed them are
[01:44:38] uh liquid just i mean this is crazy gloves and
[01:44:41] it's gonna be quite a hit i feel for falcons losing this game one as we saw in the stats this hasn't this hasn't been
[01:44:50] happening when they pick kamara's timber sword it was gonna be shaken up a little bit they come
[01:44:55] to this last big team but they don't
[01:44:56] they don't lose with that falcon but maybe today here in this game one
[01:45:00] they do how many of these can they just nerf pango already i think we're gonna
[01:45:04] get a mini map replay of nisha of course but my But my goodness, how many of these last pick Pangos
[01:45:08] and how many years are we gonna have to deal with this hero
[01:45:10] just dominating games? I mean, Nisha
[01:45:12] playing it perfectly so far here as
[01:45:14] he really has dominated super hard in
[01:45:16] this one. And his itemization's it's clean you know going for
[01:45:19] this mage player there's a nice in-between item for the natural build up yeah all the timings from
[01:45:23] liquid are coming very flawlessly to this game i mean it was just to be expected when you've
[01:45:27] you know you've won the lanes you're having this lead
[01:45:29] but they're definitely not letting it go to waste and a liquid they're hitting timing
[01:45:32] after timing off the time which is leaving very few windows really for falcons to do anything
[01:45:36] it's getting to sort of the point where it's all in skater yeah it really feels like that falcons are kind of in the
[01:45:42] position that they've been able to force most of the other teams that they've
[01:45:44] defeated on the way to this point yeah uh where indeed is just gonna hit creeps
[01:45:48] hope for the best and hope that the carry can carry you i really is feeling like it's it's almost
[01:45:53] entirely unspeed at this point because this
[01:45:54] this four more fling has gotten away with the greed five zero eleven also on
[01:45:58] boxy making clean moves and he's got the mech in the pipe
[01:46:01] So three of the heroes in particular
[01:46:03] Are very countered now, the AA
[01:46:05] The Sanking and the Jakiro's damage is going to be
[01:46:07] Very reduced on that, on top of the Mage Slayer
[01:46:09] As well too
[01:46:10] Beautiful itemizationization beautiful play
[01:46:13] so far so for team falcons have to just try to maybe
[01:46:15] slow down the pace of the game get some type of recovery
[01:46:18] and just let skeeter do his thing because right now he is still farming very well, but it's not easy when there's this Roar
[01:46:24] that's always gonna focus fire him.
[01:46:26] They pretty much can throw multiple hero spells on him
[01:46:28] And there are so many that pierce BKB
[01:46:30] The Wukong has thrown on him plus a roar
[01:46:32] In most situations he's just dead.
[01:46:36] See what they look to do.
[01:46:38] This making aggressive moves seems pretty impossible now.
[01:46:45] Oh! now oxy
[01:46:52] he says enough the pipe doesn't know you know he doesn't have the pipe does he? No, no he doesn't.
[01:46:56] Oh he doesn't okay. Yeah I thought he had some.
[01:46:58] He debated us because he queued up the ring on its own so it was like oh he only needs to buy the ring!
[01:47:02] And he's still very far but he's not too far away.
[01:47:05] Yeah, we got bounces.
[01:47:07] And even without that,
[01:47:08] we've been seeing what
[01:47:08] he's been able to do
[01:47:09] on this morph
[01:47:10] with the Morph ability
[01:47:11] and he's just staying
[01:47:13] at pretty much full strength
[01:47:14] in every occasion
[01:47:14] just in case like a stun and an blast comes up. He'll take through it
[01:47:17] Yeah, absolutely will tank through it. Hey well its I
[01:47:21] Mean I imagine the
[01:47:23] Blast is pretty much just gonna hit on whoever you get caught in the Boros Strike,
[01:47:26] the opening stun. Ideally...
[01:47:28] In terms of a hero that you're actually gonna have a chance to kill
[01:47:30] it's gotta be Bopapango or the Honky-Kate
[01:47:33] Yeah, feels like that at the moment
[01:47:34] especially because this beast has VKB
[01:47:36] It could just not working you don't want
[01:47:37] to waste out on those support and the beast master 33 very likely will have already got his roar off
[01:47:42] in a team fight so it's uh just trying 100 to 0 one of the other two cores,
[01:47:48] one of Mikkei or Nisha.
[01:47:50] That feels exactly how they have to try to execute once
[01:47:52] they do perhaps maybe once they get the BKB on Malorine
[01:47:54] he'll feel a little bit more comfortable for them
[01:47:56] to try to 100-0 but liquid now with firm control of
[01:47:59] the map just not really letting too many people go out and farming look at the state
[01:48:02] the state of the map they have two like four heroes kind of occupying
[01:48:06] the bottom jungle box he's taking triangle a mark can't farm anywhere
[01:48:10] even skitter can't find many places to farm and there's the roar easy kill 33 minute i
[01:48:17] think you might have had that because honestly he have just been out of solo kill marina
[01:48:25] Tower to drop if you continue in this pressure
[01:48:28] They are crumbling. They are crumblingumbling big time and i mean looking back at it what
[01:48:32] what do you feel what about the falcons taken away from this game taking away from his job
[01:48:36] i feel like one of them the aaa might not be showing its face i think it might
[01:48:39] not yeah they just take complete advantage think it might not, yeah. It just...
[01:48:40] They're taking complete advantage of it in the laning phase
[01:48:42] and for a second
[01:48:43] I just cannot believe that they got the kill bottom on Skeeter
[01:48:45] In a lane with like you know
[01:48:46] They kind of preempted this
[01:48:47] And Boxy?
[01:48:48] They try to fight
[01:48:49] But indeed Boxy's having a walk out of all this
[01:48:51] MikkeZnake down the wukong's
[01:48:52] command nishin crashing up towards the tier fours with a rolling thunder and march doing
[01:48:55] a good job of forcing them out at the base the liquid will back up no kill to be got though
[01:49:00] because now being dead if he was alive perhaps they could
[01:49:02] maybe get some type of kill as a retreat but immediately when he respawns liquid
[01:49:06] resets backs up away pretty much no mistakes coming out from
[01:49:11] team with it after winning lanes and making zero
[01:49:13] mistakes the key to success for sure and now getting even more of these items b can be done
[01:49:17] through the monkey king so now popping him also perhaps quite difficult you might just
[01:49:22] have to go for the pango in every
[01:49:23] situation which is i mean probably necessary anyway falcons
[01:49:26] they're going to try to small catch them off guard rolling thunder on cooldown
[01:49:29] all right let's have a look cam falcon find something
[01:49:32] correct spotted right away immediate moves there from liquid
[01:49:36] away from the potential move coming in towards them
[01:49:39] and they'll nuke and nisha might just continue like shoving
[01:49:42] bot even though he's not the best pushing here on a pango. They've got to catapult wave.
[01:49:45] Never mind, he's TPing mid. He wants to fight.
[01:49:48] Foxy is making the call.
[01:49:51] Falcon's already
[01:49:51] on the retreat. This ward
[01:49:53] is placed and it does see Nisha.
[01:49:56] And they have to blow absolutely everything
[01:49:57] to just pop him, but he seems...
[01:49:59] They seem to know that this vision is there.
[01:50:01] Kripp watching from the trees.
[01:50:04] Not gonna go for any setup himself.
[01:50:06] And they're scouted now, the illusions will see them.
[01:50:10] Falcons...
[01:50:12] Is there any chance of taking a fight
[01:50:14] Now that their position has been known?
[01:50:16] They have to have this perfect now that their position has been known.
[01:50:16] They have to have this perfect...
[01:50:18] they need a perfect situation for them
[01:50:20] to just pop the pango and somehow kind of
[01:50:22] get the ball rolling after that, but yeah
[01:50:24] Liquid reset and then okay you want
[01:50:26] to fight us outside? Your base is being pushed. We'll just shove it in.
[01:50:32] Bottom's getting pinged out. They already have to start
[01:50:34] setting up for the defense.
[01:50:36] Sonsi being by Mikkei, setting up in the tree line.
[01:50:39] Ooh, nice little dodge there doesn't get caught by the Burrow Strike.
[01:50:45] The three going down.
[01:50:48] Falcons completely forced back to
[01:50:49] the base and there's that pipe
[01:50:51] boxy there we are now it's time
[01:50:53] now it's time
[01:50:57] i mean it's definitely like not the fastest of timings by any means
[01:51:00] but it is very good timing for support morph with him back on top
[01:51:02] Absolutely
[01:51:03] With the arcane boots and he has done so much
[01:51:05] And as you said Liquid haven't needed it before now
[01:51:07] Nope they did not
[01:51:08] It will be that nice sort of cherry on top to allow them to push the high ground
[01:51:11] protection in the game pretty much yeah and okay i like that he used this survivability
[01:51:15] he delayed that shard he wanted to get that oh he didn't have that maureen in the house
[01:51:29] so no chance ready for falcons to try and turn this fight skida has to beat kp and run away he jumps into burst, we'll see how much Nisha wants to dive
[01:51:33] he's going to look towards snaking
[01:51:34] beautiful angles here for Nisha
[01:51:35] to keep snaking
[01:51:36] locked down
[01:51:37] three dead on Falcons
[01:51:38] Amar caught outside the base
[01:51:40] They might call this
[01:51:41] they may indeed do so Amar caught outside the base. They might call this.
[01:51:42] They may indeed do so.
[01:51:44] Amar.
[01:51:44] But this game,
[01:51:45] it's looking pretty done and dusted.
[01:51:46] It sure is a five for...
[01:51:48] I mean they kill
[01:51:49] four heroes
[01:51:49] and lose absolutely nobody.
[01:51:51] The chain stun
[01:51:51] Malvin gets nothing off boxy just claims
[01:51:53] the high ground gets the perfect catch with the beastmaster roaring falcons it's i think
[01:51:59] it's looking forward to that next game as liquid looking to at least get one Rax advantage here.
[01:52:06] They may not feel the need to back off.
[01:52:08] We'll see how easy they can just kill whoever
[01:52:10] they want to jump and start a fight.
[01:52:12] Bottom tower is 300 HP, let's see if they do take the risk to go for it as well
[01:52:14] so we're played super safe oh mallory just started something off here it's not gonna happen i'll take
[01:52:23] the wraps they'll back up play around their vision immediately they have another
[01:52:26] roar available here skitter his bkb's on cooldown does reset to the side 18 000 gold lead
[01:52:35] and yeah the line is being drawn by 000 gold lead
[01:52:39] and yeah the line is being drawn boxy furiously dropping on the left side they're just saying okay we got that lane
[01:52:41] bottom's gonna push in so it's mid picking up these neutral items as well i'm seeing the next queue up i've been
[01:52:47] seeing him switching back and forth nullifier
[01:52:50] just great optimization being able to deal with their agonies on
[01:52:52] the timber even though they already have the answers to it it seems like
[01:52:55] just with overwhelming damage
[01:52:57] yeah just good choices to be able to go for every single one of these
[01:53:05] one of the cleaner games I think we've seen
[01:53:08] see he's around in my arena me here as a waffle okay HP heroipe and Mac.
[01:53:18] They can't kill him.
[01:53:21] One of if not the tankiest support I guess you could have in this game at
[01:53:24] this point if you're having a good game. Definitely.
[01:53:27] Boxxie played it to perfection.
[01:53:31] Beastmaster morphing lane coming through your pubs.
[01:53:33] The beast already was but add the morphling in it.
[01:53:35] Yeah and that's happened in pubs before
[01:53:37] but normally when there is a disagreement on who's playing core
[01:53:40] only they try and contest the cs here that's not the case professional support and nisha now has
[01:53:47] a lincoln so the target they ideally wanted, just 100 to 0, now has
[01:53:51] protection versus the...
[01:53:53] One of the only targeted spells that they have,
[01:53:55] that Burrow. They have the Missile and the
[01:53:57] AA one, but those are not really the easiest ones
[01:53:59] to catch to break a Linc's on a pango so he has
[01:54:02] he has the opportunity to live in pretty much every instance even if they maybe get
[01:54:04] the initial cast samar playing around their vision this could be rough nisha
[01:54:10] i found because i mean then they're sort of watching but how do they start who
[01:54:14] goes first and whoever goes in almost certainly gonna die
[01:54:19] do they really want to jump Moxie? No.
[01:54:22] He's going in.
[01:54:23] He's going to go in, he'll tell me the bar is right there.
[01:54:25] They're going to throw the spells down onto the support wall.
[01:54:27] That's going to be the freedom for Mikkei to jump the back of the fight.
[01:54:29] The roar's down onto Sita.
[01:54:31] Sita's gone.
[01:54:31] Brutus are down as well.
[01:54:32] Snakey gets chased out.
[01:54:34] It is absolutely over!
[01:54:36] GG is called
[01:54:37] as Team Liquid completely
[01:54:40] smashed Falcons in this game 1-0.
[01:54:42] Decimating the lanes. bottom lane just about in particular going better than
[01:54:46] expected with that beast versus they get a kill but the other two lanes were the big ones to look
[01:54:50] at nisha ran the show on this pango there This is a last big pango that completely destroys
[01:54:55] the game and this Monkey King CMA,
[01:54:57] it did work versus The Timber.
[01:54:59] The Timber and Jekera were not able to slow
[01:55:01] it down. Amar was on catch up pretty much
[01:55:03] the entire game and all Falcons were on catch-up.
[01:55:05] Absolutely, absolutely Liquid as I say they did not care in the end about that last pick Timber
[01:55:10] And that is not something that a lot of teams will be confident to do
[01:55:13] But Liquid turning it up today they knew that the way that they
[01:55:16] were played would leave no chance for them and it was certainly the case 073 i believe what amara's
[01:55:22] first loss on the timber at this tournament it was 4-0 up until this point that is a rough one and i think overall from this
[01:55:30] job what else do you think team falcons are going to be taking away because the game where you get
[01:55:34] run over this quickly you've got to mainly be focusing on the picks, right?
[01:55:37] Something went wrong.
[01:55:38] Yeah, probably just
[01:55:38] shop the AA,
[01:55:40] go for your normal strategies.
[01:55:41] They tried to perhaps
[01:55:42] do something
[01:55:42] because they saw
[01:55:43] them morph into Monkey
[01:55:44] and they're like,
[01:55:44] oh, AA Blast is going
[01:55:45] to be good
[01:55:45] depending on which one
[01:55:46] is Core either way.
[01:55:47] It didn't end up looking good at all, they weren't actually able...
[01:55:49] Even though also Snake...
[01:55:51] Out of all the heroes, Bonsai's support he didn't even die!
[01:55:54] Exactly.
[01:55:55] With the AA, more supports from 5-.019 and maybe that was one of the reasons why you picked the AA
[01:56:02] it probably doesn't feel too great
[01:56:04] no, he got the 6 at 8 minutes 30 seconds
[01:56:07] thats a very early timing for an AA to get that blast and it didn't really net them
[01:56:10] anything because of how well liquid played trade itemization you couldn't ask for a better game
[01:56:14] from them absolutely crazy stuff from liquid into this game one turning up today at a fact sort of
[01:56:20] level that i think now people probably weren't expected you
[01:56:24] know especially after seeing the drafts i think they
[01:56:26] at least you know would have expected to close again with this one was not the
[01:56:29] case here team liquid absolutely
[01:56:32] stopped game one here against falcons we thought there were uh potentially some
[01:56:38] legs to this aa pick we like the reasoning we even heard
[01:56:41] from moon the coach of tundra during the draft around the reasons but
[01:56:45] ultimately just wasn't able together a lot of people thinking maybe it takes a
[01:56:48] lot more time lacrosse to come online. Yeah, they had a
[01:56:51] pretty difficult game
[01:56:52] because Team Liquid
[01:56:53] drafted themselves
[01:56:55] as strong early
[01:56:55] oriented game
[01:56:56] and double mage
[01:56:57] that they bought
[01:56:58] on Pango
[01:56:59] and the Monkey King
[01:57:00] as first items
[01:57:01] pretty much
[01:57:01] did shut down all this
[01:57:03] magic damage, and they also shut down Malrine
[01:57:05] on a mid lane Sanking which is something that
[01:57:07] in this game needed to be done
[01:57:09] particularly hard because he's the Blink
[01:57:10] Initiator, two supports, they don't have any ways to
[01:57:13] make aggressive moves so you need your Sanking
[01:57:15] to be able to get stuff done early on and two supports
[01:57:18] from Team Falcons if they're off to a bad start these supports they can easily
[01:57:22] feed. And we did see that quite a lot but then you look at
[01:57:26] sports on the side of liquid and there was so much action coming out from them like non-stop i mean
[01:57:31] i had 12 minutes it was not all the way in favor of Liquid there.
[01:57:35] Yeah pretty difficult game from Team Falcons but yeah we gotta point out
[01:57:39] to supports this position for Morphling even though it was picked
[01:57:43] before AA still very difficult game for him on paper but in this game he was really
[01:57:48] not feeling it the position 4 morphing or position 4k hp morphing if you want to call it that way
[01:57:53] because he had pipe he was morphing into Timbersaw throughout the whole game.
[01:57:56] Headmack even though you're playing into Ancient Apparition
[01:57:59] You still wanna bring some tankiness to your own team
[01:58:01] cause others are gonna go for the damage
[01:58:03] and one thing I particularly like is
[01:58:05] that you need to choose which hero
[01:58:07] you're gonna go for, like you need to hit
[01:58:09] AA blast on 1 of 3
[01:58:11] cores but if Morphling
[01:58:13] is rushing in and he's blinking in
[01:58:15] it also means you need to address him
[01:58:17] we normally rely on offlane as a lot to be the one that initiates the front line
[01:58:21] to take all that damage so the fact that you can relegate this
[01:58:24] to your oppose four he's the one that's creating that chaos
[01:58:27] fantastic uh drafting there by the side of liquid
[01:58:29] look we could keep talking about all the theories how exactly it played out but
[01:58:32] let's check into some highlights and very specific moments with Jenkins.
[01:58:41] That's right, Natalie.
[01:58:43] Thank you for that wonderful introduction.
[01:58:47] Dota 2 is the most nuanced game in the world.
[01:58:49] Chinese checkers go? No! It's Dota 2, we're gonna look at some of those
[01:58:51] nuances here today. Computer could you
[01:58:53] load up the first clip please?
[01:58:55] We're going to look at the laning stage, Falcons
[01:58:57] last picked the Timbersaw into
[01:58:59] The Monkey King hard counter so how do
[01:59:01] They play this lane despite being a
[01:59:03] Hard counter look at Amara he's dragging
[01:59:05] The creeps away from the creep
[01:59:07] Equilibrium and monkey king tries to
[01:59:09] Head over and fight
[01:59:11] with him and then there's this next brief wave on the radiant side that's
[01:59:14] running past and he runs to the left he runs towards
[01:59:16] this weird fountain thing mickey is like what is this guy doing
[01:59:19] he's trying to hop over it and maybe try to contest him.
[01:59:21] But he needs to get...he needs to last it!
[01:59:24] Look at this! So Amar, he takes
[01:59:25] this creep wave and he pulls the next
[01:59:27] one as well. This man
[01:59:29] has two creep waves chasing him into the
[01:59:32] tower. This is how you have to play the Creep
[01:59:34] Equilibrium when you're countered.
[01:59:36] There's a few different ways that you can do this, so computer
[01:59:38] could we load up actually the second clip here
[01:59:39] which is a different scenario where they're playing the creep equilibrium
[01:59:43] very nicely. Let's get this going
[01:59:45] This one is more of a duo
[01:59:46] situation. You have Amar
[01:59:48] playing very far up on the creep wave
[01:59:50] Why is he doing that when he's hard countered the reason that he's
[01:59:53] doing that is actually so crit can play around this camp here and he can pull this camp back
[01:59:58] so amar is kind of feigning aggression even though you know know, this is not a good trade.
[02:00:04] But the thing is he's got to do this
[02:00:06] because this frees up grit to pull the camp
[02:00:08] and that scenario he died. This is just because Liquid
[02:00:10] was playing the lane very well. Amar also
[02:00:12] maxed the Timber Chain so we can trade with the Monkey King a little bit
[02:00:15] and then Timber Chain away, so
[02:00:16] it's not ideal. Obviously your Timbersaw,
[02:00:18] you want to get some kills here,
[02:00:20] so they were doing very well in that lane on the side
[02:00:23] of Falcons. Monkey King is obviously going to free farm, but you're supposed to stomp that lane on the side of falcons monkey king's obviously going to free
[02:00:24] farm but you're supposed to stomp that lane
[02:00:26] now dota i said it's a very nuanced game so we're gonna load up the last clip
[02:00:30] here and look at what happened so once again
[02:00:33] you have amar kind of playing in the jungle with his support.
[02:00:36] Crit is there and Xenia's out of position because he feels like
[02:00:39] he needs to come over here and trade with these guys.
[02:00:41] Amar jumps in. He's feigning this aggression.
[02:00:43] Mikke heads over but look at this TP rotation
[02:00:46] here from Boxy.
[02:00:47] So while Falcons
[02:00:48] is playing the lane very well,
[02:00:49] very nice stun there
[02:00:50] for Mikkei.
[02:00:51] Boxy heads over
[02:00:52] and you can win
[02:00:53] games of Dota
[02:00:54] based on good laning.
[02:00:55] You can win games
[02:00:56] of Dota based on good laning. You can win games of Dota based on creep
[02:00:57] equilibrium, all of this BS
[02:00:59] but there's also rotations. There are
[02:01:01] nuances if you want to be good at
[02:01:03] laning you can win games that way. If you
[02:01:05] want a hero you can win games that way. There's a lot of million different ways
[02:01:07] to win but there's also
[02:01:08] a million different ways
[02:01:09] to break down the game
[02:01:10] and we're going to see
[02:01:11] that with Effie in Purge.
[02:01:14] Thanks guys.
[02:01:15] Mir is standing here
[02:01:16] with me holding
[02:01:17] a bunch of precious metals what does it
[02:01:19] feel like you know feels kind of cool actually watching from the studio i see people crush these
[02:01:25] keys i look at this hydraulic press it's that cool, but now that I'm here
[02:01:29] it's kind of hype actually.
[02:01:31] I can see how players would be excited putting it in there.
[02:01:33] Yeah, it just kind of looks like Play-Doh
[02:01:34] when the hydraulic press does its work
[02:01:36] unless you get to hold the metal in your hands.
[02:01:37] I've got Fanatic Onyx Key from MLBB.
[02:01:42] It's very sad for them,
[02:01:43] I'm holding their literally crushed dreams
[02:01:46] and my hand just like liquid just crushed Falcons.
[02:01:51] They actually did, I was
[02:01:53] a little unsure because there's been
[02:01:55] a lot of stomps, like tactical stomps the last
[02:01:57] couple days so I was unsure
[02:01:59] who's going to do well at various stages, but that was kind of a big surprise considering Liquid went from getting stomped 2-0 to now stomping.
[02:02:06] Yeah, yeah, I thought after Liquid's game versus gaming yesterday that their draft might have looked
[02:02:11] a little bit exposed
[02:02:12] because that's what
[02:02:12] it seemed like to me
[02:02:13] especially versus
[02:02:13] the Chen and
[02:02:14] the Enchantress.
[02:02:15] But they got
[02:02:15] their Beastmaster
[02:02:16] they got their
[02:02:17] Pango
[02:02:17] and they played
[02:02:18] their lanes
[02:02:19] incredibly well.
[02:02:20] I think that
[02:02:20] Farkas probably
[02:02:21] underestimated what happens if they give Liquid heroes like that, because Liquid are still one of the most dominant teams
[02:02:27] of this tournament. That makes a lot of sense actually, cause I was sitting there watching the draft with Moon i it is so remarkable sitting with a top
[02:02:34] four team in the world coach talking
[02:02:36] about drafts he's like oh they banned
[02:02:37] enchanted or even before they ban
[02:02:40] enchantment beast he was like
[02:02:41] they need to ban enchanting beasts here
[02:02:42] so that they can get
[02:02:43] the Beastmaster.
[02:02:44] They banned it
[02:02:45] and then he's like,
[02:02:46] okay,
[02:02:46] they're going to
[02:02:46] ban Beast now
[02:02:47] if they didn't.
[02:02:47] Oh,
[02:02:47] they banned Oracle.
[02:02:48] Okay,
[02:02:48] I guess they're
[02:02:48] going to be
[02:02:49] picking a Darkseer
[02:02:49] and then
[02:02:50] they get the
[02:02:51] Beastmaster
[02:02:51] and he's like,
[02:02:52] oh,
[02:02:52] that's kind of
[02:02:52] interesting
[02:02:53] that they let him
[02:02:53] have the... It's so interesting getting
[02:02:55] this. He's like deep nuggets.
[02:02:57] Yeah. Maybe they thought they had answers
[02:02:59] for Beastmaster. That's what it seems like because
[02:03:00] they have the Jakiro and they have the Gyro but
[02:03:03] honestly, 3-3 is one of the heroes that he likes to
[02:03:06] play his heroes when they're countered anyway because he farms incredibly fast
[02:03:09] on beast cluster even after a bad lane. And then he gets
[02:03:11] that agg timing, Liquid know how to play around it very well
[02:03:14] so maybe a little bit of a mistake there
[02:03:16] but also i think it's a little bit of a mistake to leave that niche up handle in
[02:03:19] especially if you want to run down the sand king red
[02:03:21] that's like your about a lot of teams have been running very effectively
[02:03:25] versus him.
[02:03:25] I think Moon said that it was actually a bad matchup for Pengo, because he says when you
[02:03:31] do shield crash if you just burrow strike him, it just cancels the shield crash so you
[02:03:35] don't get the last hit and you don't get a barrier either.
[02:03:37] So he actually says it's a hard matchup
[02:03:38] He said Nishida was doing really well so...
[02:03:40] In theory it should be but I've seen
[02:03:42] a lot of Pango versus Sand King in this tournament
[02:03:44] One that i also remember is GPK-Pango
[02:03:47] versus XM-Sandking, and GPK won that thing.
[02:03:49] So I think it can be a little bit skill-based where if you're very experienced pango player
[02:03:54] You can actually get the edge in that lane. That's what it looks like.
[02:03:57] Yeah, I mean still up in there though clearly both teams are comfortable actually get the edge in that lane that's what it looks like yeah i mean
[02:03:58] still up in there though clearly both teams are comfortable with the matchup
[02:04:00] so we have another game coming up in a second and it's possible that we're
[02:04:04] going to see a key get crushed shortly after the next
[02:04:07] game but we'll see what happens back to you guys so so so so so so I'm taking to go ahead and do that. so So. so so so so so We'll be right back. so so. so so ¶¶ so Are you ready?
[02:08:42] Are you ready? Are you ready?
[02:08:52] I came out
[02:08:53] I came out so so I'm a man, I'm a woman, and I'm not
[02:09:18] I'm only known as
[02:09:20] I'm a man so uh I'm going to rematch against the game in Gladiators.
[02:09:59] It's only one game that stands between them and that grand finals rematch that
[02:10:03] we've seen so many times before in 2023 but yeah potentially it's different than 2024 either way
[02:10:09] uh if you're a liquid fan maybe you can start getting your hopes up just slightly
[02:10:12] but not too much because we don't know yet what is in store for game number two Draft Lacoste.
[02:10:17] Yeah the big one for me was this Beastmaster going through
[02:10:21] because this is the hero that team liquid had a
[02:10:24] lot of success with they did win five out of six games and team liquid they just spent things
[02:10:30] outside they were pretty much playing like they did until they met gaming gladiators
[02:10:35] in the purple bracket finals it felt like it's all about the speed it's all about that tempo
[02:10:39] and so far team liquid showing that even after losing to Gaming Gladiators they can still pick themselves up.
[02:10:47] Come up with a really good draft and most importantly execute that draft.
[02:10:51] This is our lessons learned. Sorry, I think you're right about that?
[02:10:56] Yeah definitely there's a lot of lessons to be learnt here by Falcons but I do believe they can learn these lessons because
[02:11:03] To me it did feel like their draft
[02:11:04] just did not enable them at all
[02:11:05] to fight once Team Liquid hit their timings.
[02:11:08] And the two key things that come to mind
[02:11:10] are the Beastmaster,
[02:11:11] like Lacoste mentioned,
[02:11:12] but also the Pango versus Sand King.
[02:11:14] We've seen this a few times throughout
[02:11:15] the tournament where san king players in theory think that
[02:11:19] they should beat pango mid but pango at the very least goes even
[02:11:22] with sand king and just plays a tempo game. He does not get shut down, so you definitely also
[02:11:28] have to consider either taking it for yourselves
[02:11:31] who are a pango team or not giving it away.
[02:11:34] Yeah, Pango seems to have somehow slid under the radar in this tournament.
[02:11:40] It's just never banned but everybody is picking it and winning with it
[02:11:43] and it looks good.
[02:11:44] Never banned?
[02:11:45] That means it was never bad this year.
[02:11:47] It's always good!
[02:11:49] Never banned is a bit of a stretch, but very rarely it's not the most banned which I feel is that surprising aspect.
[02:11:54] Yeah with the speed at which people play.
[02:12:01] And I was thinking about something with regards to Team Liquid and 33 fitting in.
[02:12:03] He was playing the Beastmaster last game.
[02:12:07] So farm-intensive offlaner for at least a couple of items.
[02:12:09] She has a Monkey King carry and a mid pango. These are heroes that
[02:12:11] want to get active even Monkey King
[02:12:13] while he does want to farm people are going through the portal
[02:12:15] they're ganking side lanes so I almost
[02:12:17] feel like part of 33 fitting in is actually the fact that
[02:12:20] the meta has adjusted to the playstyle, that Liquid would naturally be more
[02:12:25] comfortable with anyway. And speaking of 33, I mean Liquid banned
[02:12:29] Doom in the first phase which is very
[02:12:30] indicative of wanting to go for the Beastmaster
[02:12:33] again because that's considered his counter
[02:12:35] in this patch. Something
[02:12:37] Falcons could do is just pre-take the Enchantress
[02:12:39] so that way you're not worried about the Beastmaster
[02:12:40] or they pre-take the Pango like we talked about.
[02:12:42] They are a Pango team.
[02:12:44] Malorine excels on this hero.
[02:12:46] They can also play it offline on Amar,
[02:12:48] but Beastmaster's still in the pool.
[02:12:50] Pango is back maybe to being first pick there.
[02:12:52] What a time! Like we tried
[02:12:54] nerf this hero so many times
[02:12:56] It didn't take long
[02:12:58] Oh, Swatchbuck was bad? You know what? We're just gonna
[02:13:00] play off Shield Crash instead.
[02:13:02] But yeah, overall strong hero.
[02:13:04] Nisha had an exceptional game in the previous one, dying only once.
[02:13:08] Right itemization I gotta point out that Double Mage Slayer was kind of what shut down sinking timber saw as well they didn't get
[02:13:14] the chance to have that explosive damage which you want to have from these two heroes
[02:13:20] whoa i feel like it's been a very long time since we've seen this hero.
[02:13:24] Yep, it has been first phase banalad but
[02:13:26] This hero completely crushes pango
[02:13:30] Like this is absolutely not an easy lane for pango
[02:13:33] It's one of the hardest mid-lane matchups
[02:13:35] for him, so
[02:13:36] you might be looking at that offlane flex now
[02:13:39] just to make your draft easier.
[02:13:41] Do we think that
[02:13:42] Liquid would be willing to run this as a carry on the SF?
[02:13:45] Because that's what OG has been doing, or OG did.
[02:13:48] It actually ran it... I think in almost every game, Tomato was the one playing it as a carry.
[02:13:52] I prefer him to be played from the mid lane.
[02:13:54] It's a good matchup. They can still flex this bangle. it as a carry. I prefer him to be played from the mid lane,
[02:13:55] It's a good matchup they can still flex this pango to an offlane so you don't know
[02:13:59] the match up completely but the hero i want to see get banned
[02:14:02] is Spirit Breaker. I think this is the hero that causes quite a lot of issues for Shadowfiend, and we've
[02:14:07] seen Shadowfeeds not going at least to mid
[02:14:09] ones for the Yule Scepter instead
[02:14:11] it's Blink, it's BKB
[02:14:13] into Yashakaya so you still
[02:14:15] have an issue to address and I think Spirit Breaker is the big one.
[02:14:18] His charge also going through the VKB, which is a big question mark for me
[02:14:22] why does it work that way? And also Nether Strike very annoying hero to deal with.
[02:14:26] Yeah, that's a great callout Lacoste because that's exactly what happened and also Nether Strike. Very annoying hero to deal with.
[02:14:28] And it's a great callout, Lacoste because that's exactly what happened actually
[02:14:30] in the BB Team versus Tundra series
[02:14:33] they ran mid SF on GPK
[02:14:35] versus Thompson Sand King
[02:14:37] and he got completely demolished.
[02:14:38] But once that Dark Seer hit level 3,
[02:14:40] got level 2 Ion Shell,
[02:14:42] he put it on his Spirit Breaker,
[02:14:43] Spirit Breaker charged mid,
[02:14:44] they killed the Shadow Fiend
[02:14:46] and Thompson was able to come back into the game off of that.
[02:14:48] So, that's definitely something you should think about.
[02:14:50] And also they're up-landing Doxy because he got the final hit with the Iron Shell.
[02:14:55] It's tough to say because I don't think Falcons are that dark-seared team, so you're going
[02:15:00] to have a very different offlane pairing which begs the question is Spirit Breaker still
[02:15:05] as impactful if you're not really gonna be there present in that offlane when Team Liquid,
[02:15:10] in Game 1 loved to shut down the offlane.
[02:15:13] Amar was not able to get the ball rolling for himself on a big comfort hero.
[02:15:16] Yeah, that is true. I would say for Falcons if I had to bet on it
[02:15:19] I'd say it's more likely that they would rotate
[02:15:21] the Pango to the offlane
[02:15:22] to deal with the SF in a way.
[02:15:25] And then pick something that's just better against the SF mid
[02:15:27] and like a mid-to-mid matchup.
[02:15:29] So looking at Malorin's heroes, mid to mid versus the SF.
[02:15:34] A lot of his heroes are actually kind of countered.
[02:15:36] Yeah, Tiny I guess because you can have a toss the SF out
[02:15:41] and I think that was one of the better matchups versus sf just in
[02:15:43] the game do you just sack lane and hope that you have high tempo supports that are wanting to run
[02:15:50] with this support as well as either either an offlaner or carry
[02:15:53] that creates the number advantage of four rolling.
[02:15:55] I don't think Mal'Grim will ever sack the lane.
[02:15:58] I could see like a final beast.
[02:16:00] Well, we've got a couple questions about this,
[02:16:02] but Purge himself does have...
[02:16:04] I believe it's still Moon me understanding fire.
[02:16:06] But either way let's hear some thoughts from those guys.
[02:16:09] Yeah that's right, I'm here with Moon.
[02:16:10] Moon what do you think about the draft so far?
[02:16:13] So the Shadowiend pick is definitely
[02:16:15] pretty meditated by Team Liquid.
[02:16:17] The idea is that
[02:16:19] they're gonna abuse the fact that Falcons
[02:16:21] doesn't run a position for melee
[02:16:23] roaming like a Spirit Breaker like we do against shadow fiend because that's
[02:16:26] why counter shadow being like one roland the mid lane is gonna die even though he has a good matchup
[02:16:30] okay what do you think about the j-caro pairing with it
[02:16:33] you said this was uh one in sania's heroes, in the last draft?
[02:16:36] Yes, so you've
[02:16:38] submitted an ET ban and Sania has limited all
[02:16:40] the way down to Jokiro, so they need to secure
[02:16:42] his hero here. If they don't take their Jokiro here
[02:16:44] Falcos might steal it because they played on position 4 and 5.
[02:16:47] And then you're also talking about their need for a stun to set up the SFLT, right?
[02:16:51] Yes. That's why I don't like the Elder Titan ban from Falcons
[02:16:54] Because Liquid needs a stun
[02:16:56] And only stuns in offlane at 33 places is Beastmaster
[02:16:58] and Sand King. So I really felt like unless Falcons has a plan for Sand King 16-17.
[02:17:03] Alright great, we'll throw it back to the panel. you purge moon giving out some ideas there they're
[02:17:09] also a little bit worried about the off-lane pool of the side of team liquid so a lot of different
[02:17:15] questions in this chess game that they're going for but this enchantress you mentioned
[02:17:19] it in the pre-game fe you also mentioned in game one when it was banned out like here it is they're
[02:17:24] prioritizing it to falcons want to pick up here yeah i think this is by far
[02:17:29] like one of snake king's best heroes if not his last year in this tournament
[02:17:33] because he's been making some really great plays
[02:17:35] he wins his safe lane so hard and then i've seen him like send
[02:17:38] centaur creeps alone through the twin gate to gank the
[02:17:41] enemy carry while still staying on the lane to secure farm for his hair he's been doing really
[02:17:46] cool things and in theory this enchantress with a Good Creep can rotate mid on this SF and dive this tower
[02:17:52] and potentially be a means to shut him down.
[02:17:54] So I love seeing these Enchantresses come out of Falcons because Team Liquid showed us yesterday
[02:17:58] that they don't really have the best answers to Enchantress.
[02:18:01] They ran a Nyx Assassin yesterday, it didn't look good for them,
[02:18:04] it slowed down their pace a little bit too much,
[02:18:06] so I would imagine they don't want to overreact to this Enchantress.
[02:18:09] They could even pick something like a Crystal Maiden if they wanted to,
[02:18:11] and that would honestly probably be enough.
[02:18:13] I'd like the Siam.
[02:18:14] I also don't mind the Nyx.
[02:18:16] I just think that the way you have to play it is different.
[02:18:19] Like, I think the issue that they had was
[02:18:21] that they continued cutting the creep wave
[02:18:24] After the enchantress left the lane
[02:18:26] And went through the portal to gank the other lane
[02:18:28] I think thats an issue
[02:18:30] Oh i like this
[02:18:32] Because then they carry free farms.
[02:18:32] I like the Brewmaster even though Team Liquid didn't have much success with the hero
[02:18:37] They are still 0 and 3
[02:18:40] We've seen different builds on Brewmaster
[02:18:42] And also I don't see any explosive damage one Falcon
[02:18:46] So right now brew has a pretty guaranteed splits in a team fight shirt
[02:18:50] They're still gonna pick, you know some heavy damage coming out
[02:18:52] But also it's up to control. You have blink lasso you have pangolins
[02:18:56] rolling thunder but you have an ice pad to follow it up maybe a requiem try to save brewmaster so
[02:19:01] that he can get the split off. And looking at Falcons,
[02:19:05] the two supports on their side,
[02:19:06] they want to speed.
[02:19:07] They want to have speed.
[02:19:08] They want to be able...
[02:19:09] I see Betrider.
[02:19:10] I see Enchantress.
[02:19:11] These heroes want to rotate early on.
[02:19:13] They want to get them Shadow Fiend
[02:19:14] and just dive tower
[02:19:15] and get as many kills as possible.
[02:19:17] So Team Liquid, they need to be able to punch back
[02:19:19] they need a hero that can easily join some of these earlier fights
[02:19:22] And that's going to be Marcy for now.
[02:19:25] And you know TL take a page here out of OG and that's going to be Marcy for now.
[02:19:26] And TL take a page here out of OG's book, they
[02:19:29] love that Marcy Brule in but it also just
[02:19:31] fits their playstyle so well. Bru is
[02:19:33] just a great hero here to back up the soft given
[02:19:34] that teamfight cushion. Also guru buying these auras is
[02:19:37] going to make it so that shadow fiend himself is extra protective you also have now have this
[02:19:41] sidekick damage amp but you can add to the shot of him later in the game
[02:19:45] if the flex to carry is there and this is is a heavy dive line, Marcy plus Groot.
[02:19:49] I've seen it like dive carries level 3 and just win those over and over again
[02:19:54] so pretty scary coming out of Team Liquid
[02:19:57] but I still think that this Enchantress
[02:19:59] will and can do a lot on that lane.
[02:20:01] The way you play against Brew, you want to
[02:20:03] be able to kill the Brulings, maybe Sven,
[02:20:05] maybe Gyrocopter again. I want to see some
[02:20:06] explosive damage. These are also bkb carries
[02:20:09] i would prefer sven probably because you also want to have something to jump this
[02:20:21] that doesn't get owned by this lane That can burst
[02:20:22] And I feel like you want to pick your carrier
[02:20:25] Because the pool is getting too small
[02:20:27] That is the perfect pick
[02:20:29] In my opinion.
[02:20:30] It counters both of these heroes and it's the burst we talked about.
[02:20:32] Well look Jenkins, it's not just your opinion that we're getting here
[02:20:35] We are going to head on back down to Purge and Moon for some more words from them
[02:20:39] Alright Moon they didn't grab a Sand king to initiate with the sf do you think
[02:20:42] the marcy or the brewer are going to be good enough the marsy pick is against the enchantress
[02:20:46] because we want to melee for his enchanted because enchanters just uh trades way too well
[02:20:51] i'm not worried about team liquid because their only initiations because Enchantress just trades way too well. I'm a little worried for Team Liquid
[02:20:52] because their only initiation is the Marci jump.
[02:20:54] After the nerf, Marci needs like level seven
[02:20:56] to have reliable initiation
[02:20:58] and with heroes like SF and Jekyll
[02:21:01] those heroes really need setup.
[02:21:03] How's the Falcons draft looking otherwise?
[02:21:06] The Falcon's draft looks very solid. They have a solid initiation of Varadar Blink Lasso later in the game
[02:21:10] they have strong teamfight with Pangolier
[02:21:12] And this time they are safely
[02:21:13] and looks a lot better.
[02:21:14] Last time, last game
[02:21:15] they had AA into Beastmaster
[02:21:17] that's why the Gyrocopter died
[02:21:18] in lane I felt
[02:21:19] And this game is Enchantress Troll World War
[02:21:21] Now this is monster ass lane All right great well we'll send it back to the
[02:21:25] panel thank you guys moon also reminding us about uh this sand king that it's still in the pool
[02:21:31] it could go for either side at the moment because we really don't know if that sf is gonna
[02:21:35] go mid if it's going to go to uh the safe lane and seeing with that pango as well it's still just
[02:21:41] as flexible so now it feels like maybe a game of chicken. Have they lost faith in the Sand King?
[02:21:45] And what Liquid, or as we've seen as a counter, Tiny is also still in that pool.
[02:21:50] Both of them either going to be completely ignored
[02:21:53] or potentially picked up in the last phase.
[02:21:56] Last pick for Team Liquid, and this one
[02:21:58] they're still gonna cover the bases, ban Io
[02:22:00] because they think it's
[02:22:02] maybe Marcy as a carry
[02:22:04] but there are two heroes that I'm looking forward to
[02:22:07] that's either Windranger
[02:22:09] or maybe Vengeful Spirit
[02:22:11] as a carry just so that you have
[02:22:13] swap against this duel, against
[02:22:15] this Bat Rider Lasso as well.
[02:22:17] And you can also...
[02:22:18] Because you get the Agonim Scepter,
[02:22:19] you don't care too much
[02:22:20] about swapping yourself in.
[02:22:22] And Wind Ranger also
[02:22:23] good matchup against Trolls,
[02:22:25] good against Batpango
[02:22:26] rolls in with the BKB Focusfire.
[02:22:28] You can bring some of these heroes relatively easy down.
[02:22:30] I love this LC because Amara was always busting out this LC
[02:22:36] like in games where you don't think about it or you don't remember but it does great
[02:22:41] here for the reason of killing the screen master this remaster is currently the crux of tl's fight
[02:22:46] and moon mentioned you know from the audience that they're going to have good
[02:22:49] initiation in the Lasso, but the Lasso
[02:22:51] is too short duration and like you mentioned
[02:22:53] Lacoste not enough explosive damage
[02:22:55] But if you get the follow-up duel on the Brewmaster
[02:22:57] That will be enough damage to kill this
[02:23:00] brew. It's 10 seconds. And it's like
[02:23:02] one of the only offlanes you feel comfortable blindpicking.
[02:23:05] It's an interesting
[02:23:06] flex of the asset to carry
[02:23:08] against the Legion because in
[02:23:10] lane, Legion is a melee
[02:23:12] hero. You can get the triple raise. It is very
[02:23:14] strong against the SF
[02:23:16] or SF is strong against Legion in lane but in the game
[02:23:19] an SF carry will feed
[02:23:21] a Blade Mail Legion
[02:23:22] duel 100% of the time.
[02:23:25] So this means Liquid
[02:23:26] is confident that they
[02:23:27] can snowball the game
[02:23:30] to the point where
[02:23:30] that doesn't matter or
[02:23:32] that they're going
[02:23:32] to win that lane so
[02:23:33] hard that the SF
[02:23:34] will have enough
[02:23:35] items that he can
[02:23:36] deal with that.
[02:23:36] I also think troll
[02:23:37] against SF carry is
[02:23:39] good as well this
[02:23:40] isn't a ballsy flex
[02:23:42] in my opinion.
[02:23:43] Not just that,
[02:23:43] you're playing against
[02:23:44] Enchantress
[02:23:45] who's going to go
[02:23:45] through that tower
[02:23:46] and through the Twin Gate
[02:23:47] and dive your carry
[02:23:48] and SF cannot defend himself
[02:23:50] against the neutral creep
[02:23:51] diving him.
[02:23:53] That's very scary that's a very bold flex by Liquid here. It is a very scary looking draft from
[02:23:57] Falcons I think they adjusted themselves to what they needed after seeing what happened in game number
[02:24:01] one much stronger lanes especially the safe lane
[02:24:04] Troll Enchanters. You don't lose that lane
[02:24:06] there's not enough explosive damage
[02:24:08] it is a strong offlane but I don't think
[02:24:10] its strong enough to beat this lane and also
[02:24:12] LC as Jenkins pointed out if think if he's off to a good
[02:24:15] start, if they make a rotation to his
[02:24:17] lane, he's going to be able to get those
[02:24:19] Blink Duel, Blade Mail
[02:24:20] damage early on into the game
[02:24:23] and can easily snowball from that.
[02:24:26] All eyes on Amar, as if that hasn't been said before.
[02:24:30] Exactly!
[02:24:31] I like it storyline-wise as well we've come full circle he brought out the Legion Commander
[02:24:34] on day number one of groups
[02:24:36] against Team Spirit. It wasn't successful
[02:24:38] there, he still tried it here or
[02:24:40] there and there's been mixed results for himself
[02:24:42] but they're on the verge of elimination
[02:24:44] whilst they've made it to top three,
[02:24:46] I'm sure they want to make it to grand finals.
[02:24:49] We're going to see if this Legion commander works out
[02:24:51] and they're able to bounce back
[02:24:52] but first some words from Allie and Purge.
[02:24:55] Hey, how are you feeling about the draft so far um decent i guess like last game was pretty
[02:24:59] rough for us so this game is mostly like recovery and we had to like start coping it up because that
[02:25:04] game was pretty bad it didn't look the best, what's up with the Legion offlane?
[02:25:09] It's a hero that you guys are picking semi-consistently and no one else touches it.
[02:25:13] I don't know we just think like it has a place
[02:25:16] it's like pretty good secure they'll. They'll probably swap the lanes this
[02:25:18] game but then they have Shakira versus Ench which hopefully we can pressure with true ench
[02:25:21] and if not then his spells won't really do much to Legion. I think Amar is one of the players that
[02:25:26] can take over a game on this hero. So I think maybe
[02:25:29] it's a bit overvalued by us, maybe it's a bit undervalued by other
[02:25:31] teams, I don't really know but we found decent games
[02:25:33] with this hero. Is it difficult to force
[02:25:35] Amar to play conventional offlaners?
[02:25:38] I don't think so.
[02:25:39] He does them sometimes, but he is the Slark player
[02:25:41] The Legion player
[02:25:42] I'm seeing a pattern here
[02:25:44] He just keeps telling us to pick him Ursa with Battle Fury
[02:25:48] and Sven Offlane
[02:25:49] So maybe it's a bit hard but we just
[02:25:51] you know it's easy. Just say no. Alright great
[02:25:53] Reign of Men. Nice job. Will good luck in your match
[02:25:55] Thank you
[02:26:01] Here we go ladies and gentlemen getting into the action of game two between team liquid and team falcons uh and indeed as discussed there and as we saw on the draft this time
[02:26:03] falcon's opting to go for that amar legion commander to end his
[02:26:07] campaign are on the draft this time falcons opting to go for that amar legion commander to end things up
[02:26:14] here what do you make of this one i just find it funny how curtis says you know sometimes
[02:26:17] you have to reign him in but sometimes you do have to let a marge just let your margo
[02:26:20] because he can't just do these type of incredible stuff it looks looks like a pretty interesting the game. I think it's a good thing that they're going to
[02:26:22] let him go. And then you know,
[02:26:23] he can't just sit there and
[02:26:25] marches Let your Margo because
[02:26:26] he can just do these type of
[02:26:27] incredible stuff. It looks
[02:26:28] looks like a pretty interesting
[02:26:29] one. I'm not sure how strong
[02:26:30] it does look in particular
[02:26:31] overall is that hard lockdown?
[02:26:32] I think that they did want versus the brewmaster as the game does go down. But speaking of lockdown,
[02:26:33] this is a last pick puck
[02:26:34] versus some limited disables
[02:26:35] early on
[02:26:35] until they do itemize
[02:26:37] for something like an Orchid
[02:26:38] which we probably will see
[02:26:39] from Malveen early.
[02:26:40] It'll be tough
[02:26:41] to catch this puck.
[02:26:41] Crip.
[02:26:42] He's trying to firefly away but the
[02:26:44] slows are coming in anywhere can they give it to one of the cores
[02:26:48] they can't boxy will take it but its first blood nonetheless here all
[02:26:52] liquid so the void stance even coming out there from
[02:26:55] the brewmaster for the extra slow nisha trying to scout stuff out we'll just
[02:26:59] jump away so yeah getting that first blood haven't seen crit really played
[02:27:03] the bat rider too much i don't this is one this is actually his
[02:27:05] first one this tournament he used to play a lot even in earlier this year but it did get some
[02:27:09] nerfs and he hasn't touched it and now he's at the skill firefly level which is usually not the thing
[02:27:14] you want to get you usually want to either have Flame Break or
[02:27:16] have that Sticky Napalm to secure the lane, so
[02:27:18] see if that has any type of repercussion
[02:27:20] for how Amari's going to end up doing versus this
[02:27:22] SF and this Jakiro lane. And yeah,
[02:27:24] Liquid overall, they had a pretty explosive game so let's see how falcon is
[02:27:27] kind of just adapting that early game so i can make it to some of these later stages
[02:27:31] you're gonna jump over the walls making they're going to drive for this got the speed up indeed
[02:27:35] boxing out above mickey up getting the movement speed to keep his distance
[02:27:38] skida on the other side of the map he's gonna chase down liquid they're gonna get themselves a second kill
[02:27:44] whilst the rest of falcons were trying to chase for a kill themselves, but
[02:27:48] unsuccessfully Falcons. 2-0
[02:27:50] to start this one off going the way of Liquid. Yep, and
[02:27:52] they are doing the switch up of the lanes. So Insania
[02:27:54] he is avoiding that matchup at
[02:27:56] bottom. He is going up toward top versus the Enchantress with the Bruin
[02:27:59] Strong lane, either way with the Bruin and J'Kyro
[02:28:01] we'll see how much the end-snaking can do to
[02:28:03] protect Skeeter in this one
[02:28:05] And bottom! It's a strong lane too!
[02:28:07] This is not something to laugh at by any means.
[02:28:09] It's a hero that can provide quite a lot for Shadow Fiend.
[02:28:12] And something I was looking at perhaps with this Marcy pick also
[02:28:14] is just getting the sidekick buff up always for the SF
[02:28:17] could allow him to just fight back through some of these heroes that can
[02:28:20] sometimes be annoying. So yeah, we'll have
[02:28:22] to see how all that does kick off
[02:28:23] and CS also, the other thing we do have to mention
[02:28:26] is the priority of Pangolier
[02:28:28] last game it made it all the way to the last pick maureen they went back
[02:28:32] to just snap picking up for him i mean with a hero being shown off the way it was last game
[02:28:37] by nisha conservative having this prioritized earlier in the
[02:28:41] draft and then Maureen can also give us a crazy
[02:28:43] game on it. Yep! And right away he's already
[02:28:45] off to a 3-3 start does get the
[02:28:47] deny onto that range creep there very nicely done
[02:28:49] pulling the aggro now something about the puck you know in
[02:28:54] the early game your base damage is pretty low in particular to be able to get these guaranteed cs
[02:28:58] versus these universal heroes that just go to stats. Snake King.
[02:29:05] Just like when he puskied it to hold back 33 and the heals were out from Snake King.
[02:29:08] And we'll see how Nisha does
[02:29:09] in this matchup because this does not feel easy for him
[02:29:11] at all.
[02:29:13] Maureen's really
[02:29:13] taking advantage of... He's doing something pretty
[02:29:15] cool, so I've seen a lot
[02:29:17] of these heroes picked lately versus the Pango
[02:29:19] to try to dodge the shield crashes and stuff
[02:29:21] like that. I've seen the phase shift, even some Void Spirits
[02:29:24] He's not doing the double jump! He's doing the single jumps
[02:29:26] just to connect the damage onto Nisha
[02:29:28] which is pretty cool
[02:29:30] Just little things to point out in the lane that maybe could give him
[02:29:32] another Rainscreep deny That is quite a bit of them the lane that maybe could give him that edge another range group tonight that is
[02:29:34] quite a bit of them i think that's two or at least two
[02:29:41] beautiful beautiful stuff from him so far here. I mean, overall...
[02:29:44] He gets locked up here by a mark
[02:29:47] and we'll allow him to get out.
[02:29:49] As you say, definitely big kill potential
[02:29:51] from Liquid if they are able
[02:29:53] to find the setup
[02:29:53] with the Moss.
[02:29:55] He's going to line up
[02:29:55] for raises from Midcac.
[02:29:56] Yeah, that's also why
[02:29:57] perhaps they did want
[02:29:58] this Legion Commander.
[02:29:59] They expected
[02:30:00] the flex that could come out
[02:30:01] and stuff.
[02:30:01] They do have a dispel
[02:30:02] versus these raises
[02:30:03] on top of everything too
[02:30:05] so even if they do get a couple stacks you can't
[02:30:07] dispawn perhaps go aggressive so so far ammar farming very nicely down here
[02:30:17] struggling be a time Nisha. Struggling! We have time for him to catch up once he starts getting some more stat items in particular versus the pango.
[02:30:22] Yeah, Maureen.
[02:30:24] Gonna have a good start on the Panglear.
[02:30:26] He just keeps landing. I think he's landed every
[02:30:28] shield crash on him actually. Another one where
[02:30:30] he does this single shield crash and hits them.
[02:30:32] He's had up.
[02:30:39] Yeah although he's not playing versus the most of disables in the game they can itemize since i was mentioning
[02:30:43] you know the orchid that we've seen popularized on these pangos a lot when you play versus the pocket
[02:30:51] another range creep tonight how many was that
[02:30:55] i think that was four or five i mean i think he's gotten like four at least
[02:30:58] four or five of these range kryptonites
[02:31:00] crazy stuff already seeing the difference in levels already he's got a half level advantage almost
[02:31:14] top lane 33. continue to farm pretty well but again for this slang you know the knives coming in from skeeter definitely quite a lot of denies in this lane
[02:31:17] there's a lot of deniers across the board we have 26 denies just on the course
[02:31:23] incredible down his thank you he's going to try and chase for the kill so stick charges are there
[02:31:28] for insane damage to take him out i had to keep this
[02:31:32] i'm keeping my eyes on bottom because it feels like a kill could come out in
[02:31:35] pretty quickly at any moment if they do make some type of missteps
[02:31:38] mickey has prioritized boots nice and early on so does have the way to reset
[02:31:41] away from
[02:31:42] the repositioning that comes out from the back rider difficult scan top of
[02:31:46] this SF travel market just with a raise is out misspelled
[02:31:51] we'll keep them safe now crit trying to fight back
[02:31:54] just a fire flying onto foxy boxy he's gonna set us very low and then put a few
[02:31:59] more races ready to throw it back out some folks eat will be kept safe both teams falling pretty low though between the two of them
[02:32:09] skidder now getting aggressive going on him 33. what's the clap enough healing he was bested a block them off
[02:32:17] then return stick charge another seat shot
[02:32:21] you got enough damage here not Not quite. 33 will live.
[02:32:25] But protecting his carry, getting those heals up onto him, Skeeter.
[02:32:28] They're out of regen up here for now.
[02:32:30] Yeah they actually have no regen up here anymore for Skeeter
[02:32:32] so Skeeter does have to be a little cautious with the next potential ghost
[02:32:34] since 33 is
[02:32:35] resetting he's healing up with a healing cell
[02:32:38] so eyes on the troll warlords hp
[02:32:42] let's see snake does get another one of these Warpine Raiders to try and get this Harassment again.
[02:32:48] Insania?
[02:32:49] Far off.
[02:32:52] Maybe feeling that they can...
[02:32:53] There goes a little Snake in them
[02:32:54] as soon as their level 2 heal two here now yeah i like you guys
[02:32:58] i mean we see a lot of this of course just raindrop
[02:33:00] just all stat into raindrop just so you can tank through that burst damage that
[02:33:02] could potentially hurt the enchantress skater still stones very low but
[02:33:06] getting this good cs
[02:33:14] insane amount of denies 31 denies across the board here for the side of falcons and now at the moment it's what 19 i think my math is quick on the course
[02:33:17] on the side of Team Liquid.
[02:33:19] So yeah, prioritizing on lane a lot here
[02:33:21] as Malvin lifts the mid.
[02:33:23] He's got the six.
[02:33:24] So Power Rune,
[02:33:25] see how they look to contest it
[02:33:26] versus this Pango.
[02:33:29] They're much stronger opening from falcons this time around he's saying
[02:33:32] here he's going to try and tpl make it mario not able to get him with
[02:33:36] enough burst also could tell you a much stronger performance here from falcons in the lanes here
[02:33:43] yeah you heard it from ali in particular right they went for something a little bit
[02:33:46] more standard stuff that they have played before even though i said the crit hasn't
[02:33:49] played it in this tournament he
[02:33:50] has played the bat quite a bit you know in comparison to they did try that aa which was
[02:33:54] a little bit of a reach that they wanted to go for here and now just tried to re-establish
[02:33:57] things in the lanes two kills for liquid but the lane's new set for poppins looking good
[02:34:05] alvin and marin have hit the sixes definitely chance for plays to be
[02:34:09] made around the side lanes i mean mean, would you imagine that's
[02:34:13] kind of where these mids are going to be looking
[02:34:14] or could even team bring a support
[02:34:16] to the mid lane to try and gain?
[02:34:18] I think Nisha more than likely wants to play around bottom
[02:34:20] but there's definitely potential for something like Boxy getting a TP
[02:34:23] and if they can break the coil in particular
[02:34:25] with the Dispose then maybe they have enough
[02:34:27] to bring down Mal'Rin. It's not easy though because these
[02:34:29] Pangos just are quite tanky nowadays
[02:34:31] They go up with this Bracer into just treads and they have like 1400 hp very
[02:34:34] early on snaking making this rotation that he likes to do on the edge mickay has read it
[02:34:41] but the heels there They're enough.
[02:34:44] He's able to keep Snake safe, turning back over
[02:34:46] to Wadson gets the stun set up onto McKay and he's going
[02:34:48] try for some body blocks but McKays
[02:34:50] able to get around the center
[02:34:52] and get out. He'll get the ob's ward though, Sneh
[02:34:54] and he will look to continue pressuring this
[02:34:56] as zone the SF off from the waves
[02:34:58] It's a nice move
[02:35:01] Sometimes we do see him and Skeeter make
[02:35:02] the move through that portal for Falcons
[02:35:04] at the 7 minute mark with snaking somebody is
[02:35:05] sticking himself up top so they're trying to take advantage of that trying to bully the troll
[02:35:09] and get enough damage onto him though one charge is to play with.
[02:35:15] The turn of the slow on to 33 and one charge is out for Skeeter.
[02:35:19] He won't be dove here.
[02:35:21] A little bit worried about the threat
[02:35:22] of backup coming in for him.
[02:35:24] Nicely done.
[02:35:25] Skeeter even surviving
[02:35:26] the potential go liquid trying to take advantage of that movement that comes
[02:35:29] out from the inch now rain makes them move bottom this
[02:35:31] tower it's gonna go down so now they'll have easier ways to invade versus this
[02:35:35] sf so this lane is definitely gone pretty well they're
[02:35:38] going to sell it to just try and find some action here as they go for crit i'll try
[02:35:44] and fly away but he's got the control necessary so slowly but surely bring the bat
[02:35:49] rider down so third kill to be found but the slow start continues in the farm with falcons it goes
[02:35:56] uh completely untouched yeah Yeah, but Nisha has
[02:35:58] completely recovered after that.
[02:35:59] You know, Maureen
[02:36:00] made the move bottom
[02:36:00] and now Nisha's actually
[02:36:02] 200 goals ahead of him
[02:36:03] with just that move
[02:36:04] and just getting these extra CS
[02:36:05] plus working on that stack
[02:36:06] that he was doing
[02:36:07] just below him
[02:36:08] in that mid lane.
[02:36:09] So,
[02:36:10] pretty good recovery
[02:36:10] even though they did lose that
[02:36:11] getting some kills.
[02:36:12] Yep.
[02:36:13] How do you like this build
[02:36:14] from 33 right where
[02:36:15] he goes for the
[02:36:16] mech rush
[02:36:16] on the brood?
[02:36:17] I think we're going to see
[02:36:18] this more in pretty much every game of
[02:36:20] the bruises as we saw from gaming this just seems like a winning strategy for it
[02:36:24] snake driving infrastructure does have the split
[02:36:28] if he wants to commit to the fight.
[02:36:30] For two of them, it's a tough one to take.
[02:36:32] In fact, he may be forced to use it to get out.
[02:36:34] We'll see how much he is ready to rely on
[02:36:36] the movement speed provided by Foxy.
[02:36:38] He's way too fast.
[02:36:39] Indeed, it's too much for Maori to chase the drug master
[02:36:45] zooming around me ship starts getting a bit of pressure on from this time okay
[02:36:50] amazing more different defines poster farm here and do you could be to get a bit of pressure on for the mid-town okay
[02:36:55] the more equivalent defines poster farm here indeed with the early tier one being taken they have they have their ultis at the ready here so even though maureen makes the rotation top
[02:37:00] doesn't find a successful rotation with the Rolling Thunder.
[02:37:02] Liquid can look to punish him.
[02:37:04] Something we do definitely have to talk about for Liquid is they have some incredible wombo combo teamfight.
[02:37:09] They've got the Dream Coil with the SF ulti to break it.
[02:37:11] They've got the Brewmaster as well, plus Jekiro
[02:37:13] to follow up. It's a lot of team fight.
[02:37:15] So sometimes in these fights, it could just be overwhelming
[02:37:17] for Falcons.
[02:37:19] Looking for a fight around here.
[02:37:20] Get the Dream Coil down onto the two of them.
[02:37:22] Do they have to pull out damage? He's ready to get the Dreamcore down onto the two of them. Do they have to pull up damage?
[02:37:23] But Amar's coming in from the side, he's ready to start the fight
[02:37:25] as it goes into Insania.
[02:37:28] Successfully win the duel.
[02:37:29] 33 is attempting to fight back looking towards Kripp
[02:37:31] and Kripp took to the high ground with a Firefly.
[02:37:33] Boxyz are able to jump up, throw him back over his shoulders back looking towards crit fritz up the high ground with a firefly pop see they
[02:37:33] have to jump up throw him back over his shoulders
[02:37:37] crit he's continues to be trying an awkward spot
[02:37:40] mckay he's going to be able to walk across crit i don't think he's getting
[02:37:43] out this is a good effort from Crit to try and survive.
[02:37:44] Nice try.
[02:37:45] But he will fall, they get the kill one for one.
[02:37:48] Falcons, they take that dual damage up.
[02:37:50] Yep, they bring four heroes maybe even
[02:37:52] the fifth was rotating over now just
[02:37:54] four heroes to rotate over to counteract liquids there
[02:37:56] not quite having the levels on the J'Kyro right now
[02:37:59] I guess she didn't even check out the Wisdoms this time around
[02:38:01] sorry about that
[02:38:03] We see him up
[02:38:05] He's coming back They're gonna try for the seven CMR record has not been bad
[02:38:06] the Legion Commander
[02:38:07] they're going to
[02:38:07] drive for the setup
[02:38:08] into the Requiem
[02:38:09] a couple of raises
[02:38:10] to come in
[02:38:10] not quite enough
[02:38:11] to kill Amar off though
[02:38:12] big new catches
[02:38:14] boxy too
[02:38:14] that actually
[02:38:15] brings him down
[02:38:16] pretty huge and it helps us on
[02:38:18] the timings for safe NSF on me cable
[02:38:20] what part so what a part progress in
[02:38:23] building you really look at getting
[02:38:24] forward you get this master madness then
[02:38:26] the next time and then are
[02:38:27] you fighting like do you really try and fight with the
[02:38:29] master madness alone because of the sidekick maybe but what
[02:38:33] level was it might only be level one you always want to max the rebound yeah
[02:38:35] that's level one so maybe when he gets dragon lance with
[02:38:39] that could be some type of timing i think they're probably gonna look to
[02:38:41] fight around whenever he has requiem in particular
[02:38:44] sure yeah we've got good setup for it yeah i mean
[02:38:48] tower pressure mid their bount they're getting away with a lot of this push and
[02:38:51] then it took me fairly to one tap bottom deep now in the
[02:38:54] mid lane there being able to bring that one down as well
[02:38:57] yeah power up your enchantress is marvel tip 33. wonder what that one was for maybe because
[02:39:03] he didn't show up for a kill yet with the brew master split or something who knows
[02:39:06] the mind games always will be there and i know you like this that mask of madness on the sf
[02:39:11] oh yeah i like it it feels great to build a farm from camp to camp
[02:39:14] even when you fight we've been seeing seven sfs have they been going over these builders
[02:39:17] you still get safe plan ss doing the like the yashakaya have we had it have
[02:39:22] we had this in any games wait i mean we probably
[02:39:24] had one right now i could go back and look a little bit but
[02:39:27] i can't remember if we have seen one i think we've only really seen the
[02:39:29] yoshikai or the blink and even some rules and stuff from like
[02:39:31] the mids but yeah power root nisha there's a lasso they have their cotton graft with
[02:39:38] the lasso into the fuel nicely done yeah they're getting some nice wins here mark end of the duel. Nicely done.
[02:39:42] Yeah, they're getting some nice wins here.
[02:39:44] A couple of duels, a couple of successes
[02:39:46] he's getting the plus damage.
[02:39:47] Getting the kills early on in the puck
[02:39:48] are definitely important too
[02:39:49] to be able to get the itemization and stuff
[02:39:50] to catch him since there could be
[02:39:52] some limited disables later.
[02:39:53] You can't run away from this, caught by the shield crash
[02:39:56] of Malorina, double kill for the
[02:39:57] Panga! Falcons playing fast
[02:39:59] in this game. Much better than Game 1.
[02:40:02] And on the meanwhile it is skitter just farming top
[02:40:04] and he is going to go down the route of this maelstrom build so
[02:40:06] he wants to look to fight early the gleitner probably the choice of course
[02:40:10] too so it does feel like falcons have kind
[02:40:12] of switched the mold a little bit this game just looking to pressure a lot more yeah i mean yeah i'm not obviously a fan
[02:40:18] of the right click sf but uh i do have doubts i have some doubt
[02:40:23] i don't blame you sometimes it can be very vulnerable versus especially
[02:40:26] something like a pango who could just crawl in on top of you and if you don't have bkb
[02:40:30] it can look weird and sometimes you pop the bkb they just reset and then kind of dance on yourself
[02:40:34] even when you're doing the right click sf you still
[02:40:36] don't put points in feasts or souls then i guess you can put one point sometimes but
[02:40:41] because it's a lot of attachment about indeed losing the five soils at the end feels
[02:40:44] kind of bad oh yeah next're actually reminding me i think we
[02:40:46] did see a tomato shadow team now gonna actually look it up yeah check it out i'm pretty sure
[02:40:51] when you're doing this sort of build master madness dragon lance they're kind of essential
[02:40:55] sure and then it's up to you where
[02:40:56] you want to go after that?
[02:40:57] Probably BKB, even though
[02:40:58] sometimes it feels like
[02:40:59] a false cloud on its face
[02:41:00] It's just your playing versus Pango
[02:41:01] so you feel necessary to do it
[02:41:03] Sometimes I guess
[02:41:04] You do it and then it's like
[02:41:05] wow this is a bad choice
[02:41:06] but sometimes it's just necessary
[02:41:17] i'm going through all these games to see when how many i think we actually
[02:41:20] had quite a bit of them but it was quite a few days ago that we
[02:41:23] can see yeah i think even maybe is this again what
[02:41:27] i'm thinking east, maybe right now.
[02:41:28] Whatever.
[02:41:31] Falcons are prepared for the fight around
[02:41:33] their 14 minute power runes.
[02:41:36] Contesting every single one of these runs.
[02:41:37] Nisha does find the amped damage damage this time just to coil onto one
[02:41:40] now they'll take it here comes the ball i'll be able to find something in return they're going
[02:41:47] to look over what's boxing box he's going to get caught by the rolling
[02:41:50] thunder into the duel another kill here for a mark good move trade of supports but yeah
[02:41:57] those duels starting to rack up blade now it's not finished up too sorry mr
[02:42:02] definitely seen that this is working key problem key problem hockey's oh okay
[02:42:10] this has been uh pretty flawless stuff from Amar so far.
[02:42:13] Last pick looking good, 2-0-1.
[02:42:16] Three duels a success.
[02:42:18] And we're getting you know very nice at least early even start
[02:42:21] kind of going on here. Both teams are
[02:42:23] farming under carries. The mid lanes are both doing
[02:42:24] pretty even. The offlaners are
[02:42:26] pretty even. Same for the support. So so far
[02:42:28] things are culminating nicely here.
[02:42:32] So you see that. Mac, of course
[02:42:33] from 33 was trying to be... You know, they
[02:42:35] tried to get a better fight out of it because of that but
[02:42:37] it ended up just being that trade
[02:42:39] have to commit quite a bit to just kill
[02:42:41] the Enchantress. Yeah.
[02:42:43] And that was also Rolling Thunder
[02:42:44] with the blink reveal,
[02:42:45] so Malrean did show
[02:42:46] that he's going to go
[02:42:46] blink this game
[02:42:47] instead of going down
[02:42:48] that Orchid route
[02:42:48] that we have seen
[02:42:49] versus the Puck
[02:42:50] a lot of times.
[02:42:50] I think Blink's way better.
[02:42:51] I like it too.
[02:42:52] You don't care about
[02:42:53] the Puck, you just care about the putt,
[02:42:54] You just care about making this Shadow Fiend's life miserable.
[02:42:57] Yeah.
[02:42:57] And there's going to be multiple ways
[02:42:59] that they can get on top of Mikkei in their teamfights.
[02:43:02] Obviously with his buildup and the Mastermind's Dragonlance
[02:43:03] now looking for the Manta Hurricane fight, he doesn't want to get the bkb that might be a problem because if
[02:43:08] it gets jumped by this rolling thunder you know legion is able to run up and get a duel on you
[02:43:13] i mean just it's a situation where you kind of you don't want to get the bkb because
[02:43:16] they can't just reset off you and then you can get dual through it and you can get last
[02:43:19] sold through it so there's answers for it so you can understand why mickey does want
[02:43:22] to go down for sure for sure it's the correct build it's just it's definitely i'd say
[02:43:27] the more difficult position to play in this sort of game absolutely and uh what was his mckay
[02:43:33] so far so good he is yet to die on the shadow fiend
[02:43:36] and he does have protection right
[02:43:37] he does have they don't actually have a point in ice
[02:43:39] path that's a bit surprising from insanity i guess we'll get it at eight
[02:43:41] but they'll have ice path they'll have the coverage of the brilliant stuff
[02:43:44] that potentially protect them and sidekick once there's more levels
[02:43:46] so if he's able to start,
[02:43:48] If he's able to hit,
[02:43:49] He's going to be healing up an absolute treat
[02:43:51] with the amount of damage
[02:43:52] how high the damage output is gonna be from the SF
[02:43:54] And that's probably kind of the idea
[02:43:55] That they're going for why he skips BKB
[02:43:57] because they'll have these auras and
[02:43:58] this buff up just so they can stand his ground eventually maybe he'll have to get one but yeah
[02:44:02] wanting to want it to start as long as possible because of those vkb piercing abilities is
[02:44:06] falcons smoked up everything is ready they've got that blink and even he's done it again maureen
[02:44:10] he goes for the shard so i've seen this multiple times from him also where he gets blank in just a
[02:44:15] shot to control people yeah absolutely cool if marines identify the bsm of the i think it's cool if mario is how to identify the
[02:44:20] bsf of the team fights it's going to be a very tough mid game for liquid
[02:44:27] snaking just happen to tank through this he's going to try and throw out
[02:44:30] some raises taking just sort of chilling in the
[02:44:34] on the ponds here i'm gonna make a jump back over to him
[02:44:36] he's gonna get dispelled by amara dreamcocks gonna get laid down
[02:44:39] am i looking for you're gonna be able to find it do they have DreamCop's gonna get laid down. Amar, look at the duel up here!
[02:44:40] He's gotta be able to find it!
[02:44:41] Do they have to bring it down?
[02:44:42] It is!
[02:44:43] That's what they do!
[02:44:45] Again, every duel here being won by Amar on the Legion
[02:44:48] that one only just but he gets it
[02:44:50] Sna1t is just baiting them like crazy this heel
[02:44:54] is insane i think i mean we've seen this a lot from these engines but
[02:44:57] they don't have the way to burst him and then he gets pressy attacked and
[02:45:00] 33 gets put in an awkward position it's just a natural duel there from mar
[02:45:04] that blade mail it's done and he's getting closer and closer to blank yeah he's crushing
[02:45:07] him we'll see this fight earlier over in the river i guess you're going to see the
[02:45:11] duals right now
[02:45:23] and this is And are we going to get the one we just had? No, we aren't.
[02:45:25] This was quite a bold duel because you never know against the bros.
[02:45:27] Like, can we kill this guy?
[02:45:28] Because sometimes they do get
[02:45:29] the void stance off, right?
[02:45:30] Yeah.
[02:45:30] And that duel lasts like
[02:45:31] a quarter of a second
[02:45:32] or something like that
[02:45:33] or half a second so it does catch something like that, or what? Like half a second.
[02:45:34] So does catch him into that Earth Brawler
[02:45:36] wasn't able to get
[02:45:37] that status resistance onto himself yet.
[02:45:38] Perfect stuff so far from Amar
[02:45:40] the last pick is working out so far here
[02:45:43] and it's that one in particular
[02:45:46] is the most important one one they're able to do if they can catch the brew and first him before the split
[02:45:49] that's gonna allow them to win most of those early team fights even though
[02:45:52] their versus womple combo teams fight from liquid they are well i don't know it is a close game on the
[02:45:58] numbers five to five top lane they're gonna try for snake maybe now he's on his own they can burst
[02:46:04] him nice and cleanly they can't
[02:46:06] i deal with these challenges very quickly in a position like that boxy's
[02:46:09] i know boxes yeah he tends to be the strongest one versus this attention says
[02:46:13] as marcy always wanted that fast attack speed, or just some super high magic damage
[02:46:17] to be able to bring this hero down.
[02:46:19] Crit, he's got the blink done,
[02:46:21] so very good timing
[02:46:22] that he's been able to find on it.
[02:46:23] Even though he's 0-3,
[02:46:25] he's been able to get a good mount out of it.
[02:46:28] I'll stretch the Rokeshine here for for liquid they go pretty quick of course with the right click sf okay
[02:46:31] yep so late going down the raises maybe it's maybe a bit on i mean they throw
[02:46:35] the scan but i don't know if they make it there
[02:46:36] anytime in time and maori he's not really in a shape to get over there
[02:46:40] i guess you've got the ball in the arcane room but uh yeah making this sort
[02:46:44] of move try to make it it's yeah it's not
[02:46:47] it's not going to come nearly fast enough this roshan is
[02:46:50] going down they can fight them outside of the top perhaps if they see you
[02:46:54] without flying into an aegis pretty strong falcons even though i said the gold these
[02:46:58] pretty close uh their heroes are
[02:47:00] pretty strong right now with tons of them here skaters gone for the fighting
[02:47:02] code which i love this game just like light near to be able to join his team
[02:47:05] and get aggressive oh they're going from 33. so they can burst him excellent
[02:47:09] angle on the rolling thunder a beautiful start to
[02:47:12] fight from falcon to maori he's already onto the back lines you never get the jump one of
[02:47:15] the two of them liquid this could be a tough fight for them to turn without their fruit
[02:47:18] that right okay take the Requiem off,
[02:47:20] look at the pushback Snakey
[02:47:21] and the Macropire is healing up
[02:47:23] but he will get pulled back into
[02:47:25] the Macropire there by Foxy
[02:47:27] because something in return...
[02:47:28] They used a lot.
[02:47:29] They did use all three ultis
[02:47:30] to make sure that they got the Brewmaster,
[02:47:31] and he is coming back soon.
[02:47:33] So Falcons have to be careful how they reset here.
[02:47:36] And I imagine they are just going to look to run since
[02:47:38] they did commit everything to kill Brew.
[02:47:40] And they will.
[02:47:43] Great stuff from Falcons, just being able
[02:47:45] to realize that they can kill this
[02:47:47] Brew, they can kill 33 at the start of
[02:47:49] a team fight. They get a chance
[02:47:51] to jump in every single time.
[02:47:52] Nisha is getting a lot though, I'm just watching how much he's farming and
[02:47:55] you know as i keep it i will keep mentioning just because lack of control
[02:47:58] that could potentially be problems i've seen some of these pucks if they get
[02:48:00] to licking they also turn into carries so just always have to watch that
[02:48:05] and they did prioritize giving him the ages too
[02:48:07] so really trying to make sure that nisha can get to that point it seems like
[02:48:11] falcons with this triple blink they definitely want to look to play fast even if they're playing
[02:48:16] at the ages they want to look to just get on top of this sf and sandwich them absolutely i mean
[02:48:20] i think that's what makes this game very exciting in terms of b the SF because it really is sort
[02:48:26] of a make or break here in this position,
[02:48:28] but either Mikke doesn't get jumped he's able to just tear
[02:48:31] through the team fights and get a Requiem off
[02:48:33] and slice through heroes with incredible physical damage he's going to be able
[02:48:36] to do, or he gets jumped
[02:48:38] fully controlled and dies at the start of the fight
[02:48:40] which absolutely can happen.
[02:48:42] His positioning and Liquid as a team
[02:48:44] they have to be absolutely prepared
[02:48:46] to do everything to keep these heroes off the shadowfield.
[02:48:50] Yeah, and Sopar?
[02:48:51] Sopar not bad.
[02:48:52] He hasn't died.
[02:48:53] But he hasn't turned up too many fights, right?
[02:48:55] I just thought of that one up there where he recrims and runs away we're yet
[02:48:58] to sort of see him really get stuck in and start to kill the heroes on the team
[02:49:01] and also they've you know they've not really gone for him fully as well but they probably
[02:49:06] they want to get 33. they have to make sure the bruce blitz
[02:49:08] doesn't go down so yeah i think because i think my concern is what's up falcons when they had
[02:49:13] the bkb on skeeter he can just kind of pop ekv right there run towards mckay pop his ult and then what's
[02:49:20] mickey gonna do it's going to be difficult it's got to try to stay in this ground yeah
[02:49:30] sure that's kind of a concept though right like they want to be able to just brute force through those fights with
[02:49:33] the sustain since i have quite a bit of auras and stuff so coil at two. Amar's been caught.
[02:49:39] That's a very good start here for Nisha.
[02:49:41] And they're going to jump onto Amar,
[02:49:42] the beautiful setup from Nisha
[02:49:44] to get them the legion kill
[02:49:46] for what has been their first time this game
[02:49:48] and finally able to take out amar
[02:49:50] if we can get the clothes in onto snake you may get a drag back with
[02:49:53] the waning rift do they want to die at this place
[02:49:59] yes i mean hey the thing is mkey's not squishy that's one thing also
[02:50:04] he's got a lot of stats and i'll tell you what the thing is as well i feel this is a game as
[02:50:08] well if if the shadow finn if mickay's getting jumped and he is put under
[02:50:11] pressure they've kind of got there's not other tools on the Marcy
[02:50:18] he's ready to carry a game if some of his calls get punished
[02:50:21] he's close to be keeping yeah this some of his calls get punished. He's close to BKB.
[02:50:22] This is probably one of the earlier...
[02:50:23] We haven't been seeing the rush of the BKBs as much.
[02:50:26] They're even prioritizing it.
[02:50:27] Look at this, they're giving him the last hits.
[02:50:29] I like it too because they're making sure that they have
[02:50:32] three different types of forms of carries Yeah, I like it too. Because they're making sure that they have this
[02:50:32] three different types of forms of carries
[02:50:34] because at some point, yeah,
[02:50:35] MikkeN will probably die
[02:50:36] at least once in this game
[02:50:37] and then they need to have the puck
[02:50:39] and DeMarcy
[02:50:40] to be able to bring things back.
[02:50:41] My concern really is that
[02:50:42] you know
[02:50:43] The 33 is falling
[02:50:44] A little bit behind
[02:50:45] But I think that's
[02:50:45] Why they're giving
[02:50:46] Boxy
[02:50:46] That extra bit of farm
[02:50:47] Absolutely
[02:50:48] Because
[02:50:48] 33
[02:50:49] He's the
[02:50:50] Eora by this game
[02:50:51] You know
[02:50:51] This isn't
[02:50:51] Radiance
[02:50:52] And scaling
[02:50:53] Brew It's The brew That you said You know We've you know this isn't a radiance and scaling brew it's uh the bruise that
[02:50:55] you said you know we kind of like to see it been working out with some of the
[02:50:59] other teams uh with this sort of approach is getting
[02:51:01] agrees getting uh normally what the pipe for the crimson game, Of course he's up to the Crimson.
[02:51:04] It's going to be that more effective.
[02:51:06] The win rate has not been great for him.
[02:51:08] Not for him but for Ace in particular who is
[02:51:11] Been the one doing this build it has been beautiful.
[02:51:14] It absolutely works when you do have a support
[02:51:18] and a player like boxy on his marcy who can scale indeed that's ready to start
[02:51:22] doing the scaling himself late game marsi can be
[02:51:27] you know you're killing the cause on your own sometimes yeah especially like an engine even a pango if you do find them in a good position
[02:51:32] there to be able to bring him down yeah we'll have to see whose idea was right right i thought
[02:51:35] we hear that a lot from these players nowadays it's just like
[02:51:37] which idea is going to be right is it going to be the troll that gets on the sf isn't
[02:51:40] gonna be the multi-scaling but from liquid and stuff like that it's an interesting one to see
[02:51:45] he's in trouble yeah Yeah they're doing it because
[02:51:47] they want to get the push back as well
[02:51:48] with their Referee and an incredibly dead Pangolier
[02:51:50] caught out on his own there
[02:51:51] at the corner of the map
[02:51:52] And that's yet Boxy been able
[02:51:53] to pretty much finish off
[02:51:54] that BKB this Aegis
[02:51:56] It's been working really well
[02:51:57] versus the triple blinks
[02:51:59] it seems like it slowed down falcon's potential aggression that they wanted to do versus it and
[02:52:03] they've gained a decent amount out of their 2k lead at least during that ages timing absolutely
[02:52:07] getting these yeah but the kills against these
[02:52:09] two cores for Amar and then now
[02:52:11] onto Mal'Rini who's yet to die this game
[02:52:13] And I just keep clicking on Mikke
[02:52:15] He's got Hurricane, it's all these stat items
[02:52:17] he's got 3000 HP and if he gets the lincolns then he has
[02:52:20] protection versus the legion do on the bat right i mean it just goes to show like
[02:52:24] mickey how fast he's farming this is a game in which you know charles did not
[02:52:28] get a bad time on the maelstrom.
[02:52:33] But already there's a 3K gold difference between the two carries.
[02:52:36] I mean as you say maybe it's just he's going to be so far ahead that even if they do get on top of him
[02:52:37] He might be able to fight through it.
[02:52:38] He's just going to be that tanky That he can survive long enough
[02:52:40] And indeed, be able to fight back
[02:52:41] Definitely a possibility
[02:52:42] It's massive
[02:52:43] Because the other thing we always have to talk about too is
[02:52:46] I mean, it has to be talked about in this meta
[02:52:47] Is Auras versus not-Auras
[02:52:49] One draft is going to have pretty much all of them and the other one it might not
[02:52:53] have too many i see that he's going for crimson guard on a mark that's what we're catching
[02:53:00] yes he has another dual win for him eyes back in action perfect timing
[02:53:03] they're gonna try and punish him by boxing gets the jump in the only shout as well ready to start
[02:53:07] pummeling into them off he's going to get dragged back and taken out a marble ball
[02:53:11] mickey turns up gets the kill more money for him extra soul that's true
[02:53:16] with this ball this game he's going to start extending that max cap and he's gonna be we have
[02:53:21] to talk about the 20 talent since usually it's not at it
[02:53:24] just yet but that 20 talent is going to add
[02:53:26] a ton of damage as well on top of him having
[02:53:28] Aura's life steal etc.
[02:53:30] Perfect catch though for Falcons. That's a very ideal
[02:53:32] timing that they can catch because it was right after the A just gets
[02:53:34] reclaimed, it's right before this puck is able to
[02:53:37] get that Lincoln's finish up, so it was a good catch
[02:53:39] They do lose Amar for it, but it's good to
[02:53:40] slow down that momentum that's coming from the puck too
[02:53:43] Ha ha ha ha ha that's coming from the puck too.
[02:53:50] This is exactly what we hoped to see for these two teams.
[02:53:51] Both teams are hitting their timings
[02:53:53] that they probably do want to have,
[02:53:54] so we'll have to see who's right as Skeeter finds an AMP damage with his BKB done.
[02:53:59] So this is a fight the Falcons wants to look for.
[02:54:01] Absolutely, they want to try and find a fight, especially with the amplified damage.
[02:54:05] I kind of just want to see skidder
[02:54:06] going straight for the sf if you've seen micka at the start as well just get on top of him
[02:54:10] absolutely agree
[02:54:13] because i think despite the fact that mickey does have a lot of farm
[02:54:16] the troll in his face especially with an amp damage could still be an issue.
[02:54:20] During the BKB. I think once the BKB ends...
[02:54:23] He has to make sure that the BKB is off.
[02:54:27] Split second.
[02:54:31] That was close.
[02:54:33] 30 seconds, Roche.
[02:54:36] Honestly,
[02:54:37] Poxy's going to have a pretty good answer for Troll Raid
[02:54:39] if he's able to get this Basher on top of the BKB
[02:54:41] If he BKBs
[02:54:43] Poxy unleashes and just starts hitting the troll whilst
[02:54:45] Skeeter is trying to get on top of the cores
[02:54:47] It's just gonna constantly been interrupting the troll's damage output during
[02:54:50] his bkb which he says crucial months where skidder needs to be killing heroes because
[02:54:54] as soon as that bkb is gone he's gonna have problems yeah there's gonna be an unbelievable
[02:54:58] amount of disabled and if he doesn't get BKB off right at the start
[02:55:00] of these fights, the Brew,
[02:55:01] if he does gets splits up also will just throw him in
[02:55:03] the air and a lot of these situations.
[02:55:05] Now this is gonna be really interesting
[02:55:06] to see once those big fights do kickoff
[02:55:08] because as we said Womble Combo for the side
[02:55:10] of Liquid.
[02:55:12] But Falcons have good ways to just initiate and start maybe pop a hero until Lincolns come out,
[02:55:14] which are almost doubled now on
[02:55:17] Liquid. So they'll have Lincolns on Nisha,
[02:55:19] Lincolns almost done on Mikke mickey and they have now the crimson guard
[02:55:22] on 33 and there's no troll ice so there's no dispel for this crimson
[02:55:26] guard this time around not yet it's gonna take some time
[02:55:35] and damage is popped on tip the high ground get some sort of reaction out a liquid look what they're gonna have that over pretty quickly speed is
[02:55:37] to be taking this down pretty fast the fortification has to come out with
[02:55:41] like a high-ground now rain I need you to get cool first's put them at the high ground.
[02:55:52] They break the link and they're undercached! He's in for the BKB, popped the battle card straight over one.
[02:55:54] Boxy gets off the turn!
[02:55:57] Boxy still surviving, finally falls!
[02:55:59] Marwin jumps over there off the cliff here.
[02:56:00] Mika ready to stand.
[02:56:02] And then Mika can start hitting back now.
[02:56:03] Now the BKB and the Battle Card has come come to an end steve has got nothing to save himself
[02:56:05] mark will try and run manisha jumps forward
[02:56:08] they're going to be able to catch him as well liquid
[02:56:12] ready for the fight there able to take it and a beautiful style there on
[02:56:15] the high ground maurin he gets away but they caught him at the start of it
[02:56:20] he gets pretty much nothing off yeah he has to run and it took them
[02:56:23] it took them a long time
[02:56:24] to bring down Boxer
[02:56:25] even though they got the duel
[02:56:26] They broke the Lincolns
[02:56:27] and there was no follow-up whatsoever
[02:56:29] It took too long in this fight
[02:56:30] We're seeing that liquid lineup
[02:56:32] of everything coming together
[02:56:33] You know, they have
[02:56:34] kind of like three cores
[02:56:36] in a way to be able
[02:56:36] to deal with each one
[02:56:37] of the damage.
[02:56:37] And he just took Skinner
[02:56:38] so long to really
[02:56:39] threaten Foxy.
[02:56:40] Yeah.
[02:56:40] Foxy lived through this
[02:56:42] for a very,
[02:56:42] very long time.
[02:56:44] Crimson, as you said,
[02:56:45] perched just before this fight fight making it that much more difficult for
[02:56:48] falcon 3 find anything in return they just get boxy and they're not able to do anything about
[02:56:53] the other cores and no one roaches up and They can kill it incredibly fast.
[02:56:57] Absolutely, they're going to check it out a little too early
[02:56:59] and spawns afterwards.
[02:57:00] They are making the play instead.
[02:57:01] They have ward.
[02:57:02] That ward is despawning.
[02:57:03] They're trying to make an aggressive play on top of it
[02:57:05] for a second perhaps.
[02:57:06] I think if they would've checked back then aggressive play on top of it for a second perhaps i think if
[02:57:07] they would have checked back then they would have gone for it because they still have like
[02:57:10] 40 seconds to kill it before it moves and yeah with the damage that mckay's team is doing
[02:57:14] they would about them well and if falcons get it now they have 30 seconds to kill it though
[02:57:22] oh he's gone into something boxing he's gonna put the bkp i mean literally they're not afraid
[02:57:26] of fighting they're not super strong the dual is going to come out but the right skier super strong the dual's gonna come out
[02:57:29] but the old head skiers you have a crimson guard slowly take your poxy down he's barely able to
[02:57:35] tell him take boxing that boxy survives skeeter goes down jump forward onto snaking liquid they're
[02:57:41] gonna take the fight again they're smashing these fights this crimson is demolishing
[02:57:46] the troll he doesn't do any damage he really isn't he's falling behind massively now for
[02:57:52] the way that last few fights have gone
[02:57:54] 9k lead now for liquid nisha wants more
[02:57:57] but probably can't continue chasing
[02:57:58] forward here they can go back to that
[02:58:00] rush malrine trying to shove some
[02:58:02] wings up some lanes out but these are two massive fight with the high ground they know that skater
[02:58:07] is not going to be any sort of shape to buy back. There's no glyph.
[02:58:13] A beautiful couple of fights from...
[02:58:13] They're going tier fours.
[02:58:14] They know there's
[02:58:15] no glyph.
[02:58:16] Oh, oh, they are!
[02:58:17] And Mickey just hit 20
[02:58:18] so his damage
[02:58:19] is through the roof.
[02:58:20] I mean,
[02:58:20] this kid is not
[02:58:21] gonna have buyback that likely they might just
[02:58:22] be able to end it and then there's some i think they can end it they've got a new server now
[02:58:26] because chris going to jump in tomorrow he's going to get right into the business
[02:58:29] of fighting again the crimson is pumped they just don't have the damage to fight
[02:58:31] through these grips and the time foruras have been perfect for Liquid!
[02:58:33] The Tier 4s are falling, they'll look towards Amar...
[02:58:36] Amar has put the duel ready, is he able to find any sort of target
[02:58:38] to take out?
[02:58:39] Mikkei, he's just too far!
[02:58:41] He can barely damage this XFR now.
[02:58:43] The Pyke back there flying out here from Fountains in a flurry of desperation to keep this game alive.
[02:58:48] They go for the lasso attack, they've got MidK caught in the lasso!
[02:58:52] But MidK is having to push himself back beside the Hurricane Pike he's keeping his distance and he's lost it. point in the last zone
[02:59:05] it's a triple kill for Skeeter Falcons. They will hold, they have to buy back on the two of them
[02:59:08] but they force Liquid out of the base.
[02:59:10] Liquid...
[02:59:11] ...they do not get away. We're trying to go all in on the agent at least not yet but falcons have defended
[02:59:23] how many what was that two buybacks crit and themmar i mean liquid they go for the big play to go for this
[02:59:28] attempt to get anything they get the disables they aren't able to control mickey long enough oh man
[02:59:34] i mean that was a point where you can absolutely see why liquid went all in on
[02:59:38] absolutely there's an opportunity there was a chance yeah especially with the bruce though
[02:59:42] with the frames and we saw all the block damage but he had those buybacks coming in and the
[02:59:45] control and now skitter i think the most important thing is
[02:59:47] he gets every kill.
[02:59:49] So we were talking about the Crimson Guard
[02:59:51] He almost has the Aghs
[02:59:53] Oh that spell
[02:59:55] Get the Roach Liquid
[02:59:57] But they could get the rush liquid. They went for a ballsy play,
[02:59:59] but they could get punished for it here.
[03:00:00] And with that play as well,
[03:00:01] you've got to remember they didn't even get any racks.
[03:00:02] No racks.
[03:00:02] They didn't get any racks
[03:00:03] that went straight for the tier fours,
[03:00:04] straight for the ancient.
[03:00:05] They felt strong.
[03:00:08] They did not. Falcons,
[03:00:10] they hold. They get the
[03:00:11] Roshan and this game, it ain't over
[03:00:13] yet. It's gotten spicy and now
[03:00:15] Staking is getting some of these Auras too. He's got the pipe.
[03:00:17] He's going for at least a solo crest for his team.
[03:00:20] All righty, and I think the AC is almost done
[03:00:21] for Malrein so yeah some timings being hit now too
[03:00:24] And the Ag Skeeter is definitely
[03:00:25] the most important one.
[03:00:26] We saw this Crimson kind of just doing everything there
[03:00:29] in these last few ones he'll have the dispels oh boy
[03:00:33] did liquid go a little too far they still have a good lead they still
[03:00:36] have basher's still had a ton of items on everybody here i mean mickey is still huge
[03:00:40] now obviously did die the once
[03:00:40] and is going to get some of his souls
[03:00:41] penalty taken away there
[03:00:42] capped down towards 20.
[03:00:44] He'll have the butterfly next time round
[03:00:46] but that's still gonna come at a time
[03:00:47] where there won't be any direct answer
[03:00:49] to the evasion.
[03:00:50] They are still absolutely massive,
[03:00:52] but Falcons has been given a chance in this game.
[03:00:54] They're going to look to go again.
[03:00:56] Of course they know and be sure
[03:00:58] whilst Crit also doesn't have buyback there
[03:01:00] that the fact that Amaz is gone it it's going to be pretty huge. If they can find the Legion...
[03:01:04] That will be quite a window of push indeed as we see
[03:01:06] It's actually financial reasons for the rest not having got by that Skeeter
[03:01:10] Despite that fight did obviously go in on the Axe
[03:01:13] He absolutely needs to be absolutely
[03:01:24] and yeah we'll have to see amara in particular you know you're mentioning him he has no bkb or anything so if they do catch him with
[03:01:27] if they catch him at a coil or anything but in particular he is very likely to go down they can
[03:01:31] also throw them off during the duel and stuff like that so let's see
[03:01:34] the team fight execution is liquid wait for a risky play and falcons have
[03:01:38] gotten an opportunity to get more scaling on skeeter the
[03:01:47] playing around their vision here because you're picking still
[03:01:49] super strong especially with that
[03:01:51] timing of butterfly before any mkbs are
[03:01:53] even close to the horizon that's going to be sort of the next
[03:01:58] at the current window right if they can fight a final fight before this mpb is out in control
[03:02:03] it's gonna feel pretty good but if skita gets that mkb before liquid or ever progressed the game anymore
[03:02:08] and look what are going to fall into more difficulties then it's getting closer and
[03:02:12] close to the point where skidder will be able to get on top of this ssf yeah and then he'll
[03:02:16] have a free chance
[03:02:16] to play the game we saw even there right when they were going for the game end
[03:02:19] going for the going for the throne uh even with sort
[03:02:22] of all the kiting in control mickey did still eventually die you know
[03:02:26] with all this farm he's not untouchable.
[03:02:30] Liquid.
[03:02:31] He's a bit afraid because of his Aegis
[03:02:33] even though there is no MKB
[03:02:35] they are expecting this type of movement that's coming out from Falcons
[03:02:39] He bought the Javelin, so I mean Skeeter is just going all in and it
[03:02:40] does give him a little bit of pierce. It's not MKV
[03:02:43] by any means but it's a slight extra bid on top
[03:02:45] of the maelstrom which gives him some extra bid as well
[03:02:47] I don't know what percentage it ends up,
[03:02:49] if you're at 25% and then you can miss that
[03:02:51] you get another 25% chance so...
[03:02:53] It's probably like a 30-40% chance.
[03:02:56] Is it 37.5 or something?
[03:02:59] I don't remember.
[03:03:00] The evasion eyes...
[03:03:03] He's going to be getting some hits.
[03:03:04] Some hits for sure, yeah.
[03:03:06] A decent amount honestly.
[03:03:07] It is good to get the javelin.
[03:03:09] And Boxy do have to talk about him he almost is level 18.
[03:03:12] so that level three unleash is going to be online as well to build just flurry down these targets
[03:03:17] too we could do quite a bit of damage in this. Next up, coming to fight two.
[03:03:21] Jump the support.
[03:03:24] Do they want to try and start things with quick attempts
[03:03:26] and then he charges kill?
[03:03:27] Let's see what they can poke out.
[03:03:29] He has a craggy coat too.
[03:03:31] So he is unbelievably tanky now at this point to lanes also not in the best
[03:03:35] position here for liquid probably want to go to split push these another even
[03:03:39] more kind of, and this isn't an aura but it's a kind of pseudo-ish aura i guess you could say
[03:03:44] 33 goes for halberd so another thing that he can throw on into the legion or onto this troll warlord
[03:03:50] once these bkbs are coming down since it's undisputable, of course.
[03:03:53] Cool to see first time this patch. 33 really
[03:03:55] taking a back foot here
[03:03:57] just being that true support blue master.
[03:04:05] Just trying to play around these high grounds until that Aegis gets reclaimed
[03:04:06] before they look to push for a fight.
[03:04:08] If an opportunity arises,
[03:04:09] they will still try
[03:04:10] even though the Aegis is still there
[03:04:12] for a minute.
[03:04:13] If they can get a big coil into like this wreck when
[03:04:15] they still have this wombo combo it's still a bit risky though i don't know like do they really
[03:04:18] have to push it before the ages goes i would imagine they wait for the timing but they're
[03:04:22] just playing around.
[03:04:29] Nice pass. They're ice-cold! was making me can ease out skaters in on top of the schedule get caught with a
[03:04:35] seven-day but the beat can be the rolling thunder continues to control
[03:04:37] Mickey
[03:04:39] sign we could put them at two turns around beating it's all about because
[03:04:43] getting so lovely surviving the life still comes into play
[03:04:45] became will not fall quite yet
[03:04:47] they're taking out the troll the ones coming to it a second time if you're
[03:04:49] still live ready for round two and this is flying over the walls making mckay
[03:04:52] backing up relying upon cnc to keep the other
[03:04:54] others of falcon held away from him so micky could stand this
[03:05:05] they hold the fight in a beautiful position snaking see if he's ever
[03:05:09] retreat from this evil way three dead on Falcons again no buybacks on any of them
[03:05:14] to get the jump on his thinking inside of the base
[03:05:16] who's healing up but we can forces in a couple of raises trying to
[03:05:20] get him snakey looks like you will live they want them they're going to jump in and they
[03:05:25] will kill them off and now no buybacks they don't have it skinner's got a 90
[03:05:29] they've got a fortification and just maureen on his own in an
[03:05:33] attempt to hold on in this competition
[03:05:39] ladies Amal is already cold and GG is cold. Ladies and gentlemen, Liquid are going to the Grand Finals!
[03:05:43] That was such good plays coming out of them
[03:05:45] And Auras definitely worked out
[03:05:47] They just buff off MidGuyHeat
[03:05:49] He can stand his ground in between a troll.
[03:05:51] Everyone's sandwiching, there are a lot of little plays that came into it.
[03:05:54] 33 gets the throw up onto Chris Batrider as he maybe gets a lasso on to him
[03:05:59] but overall Liquid they came in with a strategy
[03:06:01] and this strategy worked beautifully.
[03:06:03] Just Nick Gay
[03:06:04] insanely far. He was so far
[03:06:07] ahead even in those final
[03:06:09] moments when they were getting on top of him,
[03:06:11] he was just surviving throughout it all.
[03:06:13] Enough time for the rest of the team to give him the space
[03:06:16] to survive and play his hand in the team fights.
[03:06:18] The only time he died is when they went all in onto their yeah one of the tier
[03:06:22] fours and trying to go for the game and a little bit earlier
[03:06:25] outside of that it was it was perfect stuff it's such a cool kind of synergy
[03:06:29] of draft that they do with the auras with the brew but then it's i think the
[03:06:31] crucial thing really is boxy also
[03:06:33] on top of everything too getting this sidekick so he has his extra legs to extra mobility with
[03:06:37] these rebounds and stuff too if you don't want them together if he's able to attack
[03:06:41] the amount is healing up at that point it was insane they just don't have
[03:06:44] the damage there out through it no they could bring him alone but that is it a treat to see
[03:06:48] this is a really cool kind of plan that came together perfectly with yeah even the nisha
[03:06:52] clock scaling as well too
[03:06:54] and they went for that here.
[03:06:55] You know, they went for the throne
[03:06:56] with a little bit of a risk
[03:06:57] it gave us maybe a punch back there
[03:06:59] for Falcons but seems like
[03:07:00] it didn't matter because Liquid
[03:07:02] No, I saw the boldness
[03:07:04] as well from Liquid to go
[03:07:05] for that final fight into the Aegis.
[03:07:08] That's how strong they knew that they were.
[03:07:10] They're like, well we could wait a minute
[03:07:11] but you know what?
[03:07:12] We're hungry.
[03:07:13] We want to get this game done.
[03:07:14] Get over towards the lunches."
[03:07:15] They just went for it!
[03:07:17] Aegis was out, it didn't matter
[03:07:18] they fight through Steela twice
[03:07:19] in the midst of a teamfight
[03:07:21] That was cool. Very very cool
[03:07:23] There's definitely a lot of little plays that came in
[03:07:29] but overall Liquid is a a full team strategy. Great macro play movements.
[03:07:31] They took a slight risk to be able to go for the throne and stuff like that
[03:07:34] But in the end they get the result that they wanted. Just great synergy from the draft.
[03:07:37] That really was, and if they keep this up
[03:07:39] there absolutely going to be quite
[03:07:41] a formidable opponent for gaming gladiators
[03:07:43] in that grand finals.
[03:07:45] And in the past it's been gaming. Last year I believe they won every single series versus Liquid
[03:07:49] in those finals that they played them,
[03:07:51] so it's going to be quite a reach and see what Liquid can do
[03:07:54] with these strategies versus them.
[03:07:56] Absolutely well with this win here liquid they're looking great more
[03:07:59] ready than ever to tackle gaming gladiators in that grand finals i cannot wait but now we're
[03:08:03] gonna head over the stage to hear from boxy after liquid take the series 2-0 against Falcons.
[03:08:10] Thank you very much, I am joined by Boxy of Team Liquid
[03:08:14] who has now secured Grand Finals yet again at Back to Back Riyadh Masters.
[03:08:21] And you also get the privilege of your first key crushing
[03:08:24] because you guys have been cruising through Upper Bracket,
[03:08:26] but now Team Falcon's journey has ended in snaking!
[03:08:29] If you don't mind, could you please bring your
[03:08:31] key to liquid the
[03:08:33] victors of this lower bracket final?
[03:08:39] A round of applause please please. Ladies and gentlemen for an amazing run from Team Falcons
[03:08:43] as they end here in the top three
[03:08:45] and Falcons have ended their journey
[03:08:47] but Liquid continue onwards
[03:08:49] because boy you guys came out on top have ended their journey, but Liquid continue onwards
[03:08:51] because boy you guys came in kind of angry this morning it seems.
[03:08:56] After the 0-2 against Gaming Gladiators yesterday
[03:08:59] most teams I imagine would've gotten a little bit thrown off balance.
[03:09:03] But what was the energy?
[03:09:04] This lower bracket final was insane! What a 2-0!
[03:09:07] Yeah, there were four or five hours of moping
[03:09:11] and then coach William came in with a motivational
[03:09:14] Seb-esque speech, brought everyone's spirits up you know?
[03:09:18] And I saw that he was doing some studying
[03:09:20] late into the night about plans for Falcons and game and how did you guys spend the
[03:09:24] night after hopefully having your spirits
[03:09:27] raised and being like guys tomorrow's a new day
[03:09:31] playing overflow maybe for me i watched some replays
[03:09:34] study some patterns but usually you just try and get into a good
[03:09:38] mindset go to bed in time you know eat some
[03:09:42] it's a food make sure you're like everything is physically in place I THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE FIT FOR THE
[03:09:44] COACHES.
[03:09:46] EAT SOME FOOD, MAKE SURE
[03:09:48] EVERYTHING IS PHYSICALLY IN
[03:09:49] PLACE AND THEN TRUST YOUR
[03:09:50] COACHES TO DO THE REST.
[03:09:52] AND EVERYTHING WAS
[03:09:53] MENTALLY IN PLACE FOR YOU GUYS
[03:09:54] AS WELL AS A TEAM, AS A UNIT. I saw Micke was even graciously giving you some last hits on your Marcy to make sure that you could finish your BKB.
[03:09:59] How often are you able to convince him, like dude come one I'm this close?
[03:10:03] Micke doesn't take a lot of convincing.
[03:10:05] Oh really? I think Nera would be a little harder to convince.
[03:10:08] It's like how many back and forths do I need to go through?
[03:10:11] Before, Mikke was one or two so it's not so bad.
[03:10:14] How many back-and-forths are involved when your team decides to go tier 4's though?
[03:10:19] Because that was one moment where maybe the communication had a little disconnect.
[03:10:25] I mean, in theory it can be executed.
[03:10:29] But we need to focus their heroes instead of the towers.
[03:10:33] Personally, I would have preferred to maybe take a Rax and go Roshan.
[03:10:39] It's a team game and you have to trust the calls that are being made.
[03:10:41] And I think if we
[03:10:42] go Throne and then we kill their heroes as they come in
[03:10:45] one by one, we might
[03:10:46] be able to do it. Of course, it's riskier but you know sometimes
[03:10:49] you feel that and then you go for it.
[03:10:51] And the feeling didn't work out there
[03:10:53] But in the end of the game ended up being
[03:10:55] In your pocket now Boxy
[03:10:57] we've been down this road before for you in two different circumstances at this event last year
[03:11:03] You made it to grand finals against team spirit this year
[03:11:06] It's going to be a grand finals and against gaming gladiators
[03:11:08] For all the liquid fans out there why is this time going
[03:11:12] to be different not just in terms of the year's performances but everything this
[03:11:16] is a championship opportunity for you now why can we all believe in Liquid?
[03:11:22] I think a lot of finals
[03:11:23] we've played, we've been a little bit
[03:11:25] scared perhaps because
[03:11:27] it takes a toll to lose eight
[03:11:29] grandfinals consecutively.
[03:11:32] And I think this time we already got destroyed by gaming once,
[03:11:35] so now we're like OK, we've been there and done that
[03:11:37] and then we have some confidence
[03:11:38] that we are going to do things different
[03:11:40] and I think they are like a scary team but
[03:11:44] they've i think they were scarier before i feel
[03:11:47] like now they're a bit like one trick pony and
[03:11:49] i don't know if you don't lose in 15 minutes, you might win.
[03:11:53] I love the attitude Boxy! Congratulations on another Grand Finals!
[03:11:57] What a feat from Team Liquid! Can't wait to see you at the Grand Finals
[03:12:01] I will let you prepare for that
[03:12:03] as we send it back to the studio.
[03:12:10] Thank you Tsunami and Boxy there,
[03:12:12] giving us a lot of insight towards this very quick 2-0.
[03:12:16] But at 2-0, it was for Liquid.
[03:12:18] They see themselves going on to the grand final.
[03:12:21] Going to have that grudge rematch up against Gaming Gladys. this game two did uh not go the way a lot of my analysts
[03:12:28] expect you guys actually really like the draft between balkans he thought that it was going to be
[03:12:32] able to come online we liked the legion Commander especially towards the end there, I think?
[03:12:37] Yeah!
[03:12:38] I mean, I think that Liquid were just a step ahead of Falcons today.
[03:12:41] Like every single move that Liquid made was just at the correct timing.
[03:12:45] Falcons is always
[03:12:45] just a little bit too late and i gotta say completely underestimated liquid
[03:12:49] going into today i mean i thought that after their loss
[03:12:52] yesterday versus game then they were exposed you know how to break
[03:12:56] their lanes?
[03:12:57] No, no, no.
[03:12:57] Liquid showed us today that they can bring the tempo
[03:13:00] and they can completely crush.
[03:13:01] I mean from all the way to that first Aegis
[03:13:03] that they took
[03:13:04] into all of the smokes
[03:13:05] that worked out afterwards
[03:13:07] based on pick-offs on the map they picked off LC mid into all of the smokes that worked out afterwards.
[03:13:08] They found pick-offs on the map,
[03:13:09] they picked off LC mid,
[03:13:11] they picked off Tango on the side and then Falcons actually took this initiative
[03:13:14] to like push Liquid's high ground
[03:13:16] and they got completely punished there. I mean, the network just
[03:13:19] swung to like a 6k lead at that point
[03:13:20] and it really did feel like
[03:13:23] Liquid had their number. They just understood them so well
[03:13:25] with us. Yeah, the beautifully executed
[03:13:27] draft from Team Liquid, I really like how they were playing around
[03:13:31] mckay he only had one bet in that game multiple four staff stacking lincoln's on top of him so
[03:13:36] that he can get his because he's afraid of that Batrider. He's afraid of that LC duel
[03:13:40] but they were grouping around playing as
[03:13:42] a team and just as you said
[03:13:44] one step ahead sometimes couple of these
[03:13:46] seconds can make
[03:13:47] decision making much more difficult fighting into Roshan
[03:13:51] and stuff like that. But overall team
[03:13:53] Liquid I loved also the itemization
[03:13:55] from the Brewmaster. I think that's the key
[03:13:57] one because so far they didn't have any success
[03:13:58] with the Brewmaster with the Radiance build, so he goes for Aura
[03:14:01] builds that Guardian Greaves, builds
[03:14:03] that Crimson Guard which is like okay
[03:14:05] there's not going to be enough damage. Troll still doesn't
[03:14:07] have MKBs so they don't have that extra magical
[03:14:09] damage coming out and builds into Halberd in the end,
[03:14:12] which is kind of a chef's kiss on top
[03:14:14] just to be able to disable the troll
[03:14:17] and unable to deal any damage.
[03:14:19] But yeah, beautifully executed stuff from Team Liquid.
[03:14:20] You know what Liquid reminded me of in this game?
[03:14:23] What? They reminded me of
[03:14:25] Prime OG where they
[03:14:27] would protect Ana with
[03:14:29] all these buffs, the Lincoln Spheres
[03:14:31] the Lotus Orbs, the Force Stabs onto
[03:14:33] the high ground.
[03:14:33] Everything was just
[03:14:34] about buffing Mikkei.
[03:14:35] So we were viewing
[03:14:37] the draft on a lower
[03:14:39] level than they
[03:14:40] were where we're like
[03:14:41] okay in a one-to-one
[03:14:41] direct counter
[03:14:42] Legion Commander with the duel is
[03:14:44] going to be able to kill the SF and if your entire
[03:14:46] draft is riding on this SF then you're
[03:14:48] gonna have some problems in the late game but we didn't consider
[03:14:50] the Crimson. We didn't consider the Four Staves, the
[03:14:52] Lincolns, the itemization on
[03:14:54] Mikke.
[03:14:54] When they play
[03:14:55] together as this
[03:14:56] cohesive unit,
[03:14:57] they are clearly
[03:14:59] confident playing
[03:14:59] this SF into pretty
[03:15:01] much anything.
[03:15:02] At first I was
[03:15:02] worried that Mikke
[03:15:03] was going too
[03:15:04] defensive with these items
[03:15:05] And now it's like, okay where is the damage
[03:15:07] Really gonna come from?
[03:15:09] But the pose for Marci in my eyes
[03:15:11] Was what filled in that gap while he
[03:15:13] Was able to get the Dragonlance for himself, get that Lincolns and then he
[03:15:16] was able to go.
[03:15:17] I mean, I know he ended up going for a Mask of Madness a little bit earlier on but yeah
[03:15:22] there was that low...
[03:15:23] It was no it was like pretty much no damage items even the Mask of Madness, I would consider a farming and sustain item.
[03:15:27] Sure.
[03:15:28] And I think, like you said, the Marcy...
[03:15:30] The fact that she gives base damage now instead of flat damage...
[03:15:33] All of the items the SF is building that were defensive
[03:15:35] were also items that gave stats.
[03:15:37] Right? Butterfly,
[03:15:39] there was the Hurricane Pike, all of these
[03:15:41] things give stats. Lingotsphere even gives a bit
[03:15:43] of stats so the damage comes from
[03:15:45] the heroes with the SF not the SF himself.
[03:15:47] Yeah so it's great they dropped it for itemized for but Effie let's have a look at some highlights
[03:15:51] here your one is going to come up first on our screen here and it was earlier in the
[03:15:57] game where we thought what on earth is Liquid doing?
[03:16:00] In fact, what is Falcons doing to initiate this fight?
[03:16:02] Yeah.
[03:16:02] So basically, Falcons kind of took a quest from PSG Questbook yesterday
[03:16:06] where they baited the Ancient Slack and then tried to take a fight but
[03:16:09] i thought this was a cool highlight because it's such an odd choke point to take it where
[03:16:12] enchantress walks in jekiro and talk are in that really odd place in the river
[03:16:17] but because of enchantresses tankiness facet, you can see the buff
[03:16:20] come out of the Legion Commander. She actually
[03:16:22] baited the fight and dragged the fight back
[03:16:24] into her team where they got a successful
[03:16:26] duel off with the Macropire. And even though
[03:16:28] Falcons lost, I thought this was a really cool move.
[03:16:31] Unfortunately for them it was their last successful move versus Liquid in this game.
[03:16:36] Yeah pretty much remember in that game we were watching all the replays of the great legion commander deals as well and then
[03:16:41] unfortunately just uh it didn't come together like that yet again but jenkins you've got a
[03:16:46] moment for yourself that you'd like to talk us through i was gonna say walk us
[03:16:49] over talkers i do I mean this is the moment
[03:16:52] of the game. Foxy talked about it.
[03:16:54] The decision to go for
[03:16:56] the throne, to me,
[03:16:57] people are only
[03:17:00] going to make this call when you are in a lower bracket finals
[03:17:04] back against the wall. You're feeling the momentum,
[03:17:06] you're feeling the emotion and you can see that even though Falcons did end up winning
[03:17:09] this fight they had to go in one by one. They had to expand their buybacks so even
[03:17:14] though this didn't end up with the throne falling and the game ending it set Falcons
[03:17:20] back a lot and it also gave gave this window of opportunity for Liquid
[03:17:24] to win the game by killing those heroes
[03:17:26] that didn't have buybacks. And for like the 10 minutes
[03:17:28] after this, before the game ended,
[03:17:30] Falcons had to play incredibly safe even within Aegis
[03:17:32] they're like well our subs don't have buyback, right? So if
[03:17:35] they die, we lose the game regardless of
[03:17:37] the age, especially with the brew. You just throw up
[03:17:39] the troll and then all of a sudden, what ages?
[03:17:41] You're in that weird zone where you want to be
[03:17:43] aggressive, you want to take advantage of that. Yeah, how can
[03:17:45] you? And you're also panicking because you're like
[03:17:47] out there and exposed now what exactly
[03:17:49] are we going to do? And Lacoste, you're going to show
[03:17:51] us the very last key moment
[03:17:53] of this game number two, the Liquid won to knock out Falcons.
[03:17:56] Pretty much. The buybacks are down for
[03:17:58] two supports on Team Falcons and
[03:18:00] I want to highlight how they're playing around
[03:18:02] MechaShadowFiend who gets the
[03:18:04] Manta style. He's pretty much focus of the whole fight they know if he dies
[03:18:08] they're not gonna have enough damage so he gets the pike you can see this play as well and another
[03:18:14] hurricane fight coming out from him on the high ground.
[03:18:16] Good positioning for Mickey and everybody around him,
[03:18:19] pretty much playing understanding what they're going to go for using that
[03:18:22] Lincoln's here from park with top of them which is gonna result in multiple
[03:18:25] kills and this is how Team Liquid will go to grand finals yeah when you see
[03:18:30] them play a game like this it definitely shows the team worthy to make it to the grand final the
[03:18:34] teamworthy to go up against aiming gladys who secured that spot for themselves yesterday.
[03:18:39] But looking at that one
[03:18:41] all of our highlights you would think that Mikke
[03:18:43] would be our MVP of the series
[03:18:45] but you got a look at both games
[03:18:47] Game 1 and Game 2 And so our PlayStation MVP
[03:18:49] for this Falcons liquid game
[03:18:50] was in fact Boxy.
[03:18:52] We were talking to him
[03:18:53] a little bit earlier on stage
[03:18:54] with Tsunami,
[03:18:55] but I think both the combination
[03:18:56] of the Muffling
[03:18:58] and the Marcy.
[03:18:59] So game one and game two,
[03:19:00] what he was playing in a position for
[03:19:02] is exactly why we've decided to give him
[03:19:05] the PlayStation MVP.
[03:19:07] And Boxy you're joining us here.
[03:19:08] You're doing all the interviews
[03:19:09] just running around the whole uh full of eyes
[03:19:11] Hello. Hello. Uh, you don't win a playstation for this
[03:19:15] That's too bad. They told me to stop
[03:19:17] I don't know i've never had one actually. I'm always been an Xbox kind of guy.
[03:19:24] But... but...
[03:19:25] I will say that now nobody that
[03:19:27] I know has an
[03:19:29] Xbox. Sorry. Should have told me. has everybody hasn't expected that console that we can't everybody's got a place sorry
[03:19:32] playstation should have told me the way to go boxy let's talk about it the
[03:19:35] the post sport morph you weren't the first one to play in this tournament but we've been uh
[03:19:39] saying it for you that you are the one to pioneer.
[03:19:42] Talk me about how it came about,
[03:19:44] how much you had to beg to let Blitz pick it
[03:19:46] for you in game 1?
[03:19:48] There wasn't so much begging.
[03:19:50] I think FreeFree is a big believer also.
[03:19:53] Oh good! But, I mean, I've grinded it a lot.
[03:19:55] Like 9 class started playing it and some other people like tops on mid
[03:19:59] And then I watched some of the replays but
[03:20:01] I lost my first 10 games
[03:20:06] So you know, it was a learning curve uh but after i played likes you know some more of them i feel like now it's it's pretty fun good
[03:20:10] i feel like sometimes i play it feels really bad still haven't quite figured it out but
[03:20:16] i don't know i'm gonna hijack this whole interview and talk about the pause for morph because
[03:20:19] i really have i've been playing this guy knows this guy knows huge more fling fan
[03:20:22] i want to ask you some questions about this uh first off i noticed in that game
[03:20:26] that you were sitting high strength morph a lot and then still morphing into the sand king
[03:20:30] when do you go full agi for the cooldown reduction versus staying high strength.
[03:20:35] Okay, so there's an ability I like to call Ice Blast
[03:20:38] that stops you from healing, morphing up
[03:20:42] So I figure if I just press the max Strength button
[03:20:45] and leave it there... if I just press the max strength button
[03:20:46] and I leave it there.
[03:20:48] Pretty good, huh?
[03:20:49] So you played Morph on easy mode because they picked AA.
[03:20:51] So what should have been a counter to this?
[03:20:53] Kind of.
[03:20:53] I mean, I feel like it's a counter
[03:20:55] to carry Morph but on support support more of i don't know i was kind of vibing
[03:20:59] on full hb actually moonbeander was like oh this counters the support morpheus i feel
[03:21:03] like you know i mean it was a bit annoying to not have cooldown reduction,
[03:21:07] but it was...
[03:21:10] I don't know if A is good or bad.
[03:21:13] I got more Morphling.
[03:21:16] You get one for Morphinghing what are your favorite guys to play against
[03:21:21] that's morphling when you have that cool never action because i feel like timber
[03:21:24] is a really good hero to play against if not like the best and they picked it into you
[03:21:28] well i haven't really played against timber before this favorite
[03:21:32] uh i don't know weaver sanking maybe oh yeah perma sakuchi that one can be
[03:21:38] good i feel like sometimes i take over Oh yeah, perma-sakuchi. That one can be good.
[03:21:40] I feel like sometimes I take over somebody
[03:21:42] and I do nothing.
[03:21:43] Yeah, that's what
[03:21:43] happens for me.
[03:21:44] And I don't even know
[03:21:45] like...
[03:21:46] It's just confusing to play.
[03:21:47] Isn't it exciting though?
[03:21:48] You just never know
[03:21:49] what you're going to get.
[03:21:51] Kind of, yeah. And I also noticed that you went for mech even though you were playing against aaa and i noticed
[03:21:54] that you were kind of going in soaking up the aa blast so both of your cores
[03:21:59] can't kind of get the lifesteal?
[03:22:00] You had Beastmaster with Jagd, you had Monkey King.
[03:22:02] Is that something that you talk about or do you say like
[03:22:05] I'm going to go in or how does it work?
[03:22:07] I mean, I guess I felt because I'm playing on max HP
[03:22:09] I should go in.
[03:22:11] I think the mech...
[03:22:13] You know, maybe you can't heal on A blast
[03:22:15] but nobody will...
[03:22:16] Your whole team won't be A blasted
[03:22:18] and it feels a bit bad to be like
[03:22:20] oh, I don't want to buy
[03:22:20] the items that normally I normally by just because they have
[03:22:22] this or this you know sometimes you gonna buy like concept there even though they have an
[03:22:26] unifier cause like is he always going to press it on me like probably not kind of like that so
[03:22:31] well i want to talk about the marcy as
[03:22:32] well i want to know some more insight of how you feel you have to play a
[03:22:36] possible monster at least how you felt you had to have played it in that game
[03:22:40] against falcon um i mean it's strong for the lane.
[03:22:44] I think it's strong later. It's a little awkward
[03:22:46] somewhere there in the mid game when you're trying to get your
[03:22:48] BKB but I was gracefully
[03:22:50] donated some creep waves by my carry
[03:22:52] so that was nice and you know it's really good with the turrets because you like
[03:22:57] give them lifesteal. And then when you get golden your hp goes up, I don't know if you guys saw
[03:23:02] there were two times i i missed bashing the troll
[03:23:05] and this is bashing me and i'm not dying so that's kind of the perks of
[03:23:08] having it with a turret. I wasn't sure if he was like the best pick but falcons,
[03:23:12] I think...I've had success with it before so I was like let's just send it okay when you say success
[03:23:17] before is that in officials and scrims and pubs i don't know i just have the feeling oh okay
[03:23:25] whose call was to pick marcy because you so far played 14 different
[03:23:29] heroes and and they like the by far the biggest hero pool yeah of the whole team so who makes
[03:23:34] the calls um i think i suggested it and then i started like
[03:23:38] talking about some other heroes and
[03:23:39] then william said like he just wants to
[03:23:41] play it so let's speak or something
[03:23:42] like this sometimes like i give a lot
[03:23:44] of options but i'm not so sure yeah you
[03:23:45] can see a lot of questions that they
[03:23:46] give a lot of options that And sometimes I give a lot
[03:23:47] of options that we've never
[03:23:48] played before and then I
[03:23:50] think maybe we'd rather go
[03:23:50] with the one we've
[03:23:51] experienced before.
[03:23:53] Yeah, going back to the
[03:23:54] pause form more, I wonder
[03:23:56] if playing a generic unnamed guitar rhythm game that we can't mention helps you with pressing your buttons quicker on Pause4Morphling.
[03:24:05] I'm not sure, for me, I play drums on it.
[03:24:09] So yes.
[03:24:10] And that doesn't help you at all with your Dota position?
[03:24:13] I feel like there's some correlation
[03:24:15] with keeping your brain active and playing difficult heroes but I'm sure dota does stop well enough already
[03:24:23] probably yeah one more thing like we should mute jenkins yeah back to just kidding so
[03:24:28] i wanted to ask you about knowing what your opponent
[03:24:31] is going to be in the grand finals if you beat falcons do you guys also have some kind of a prep
[03:24:35] coming into do you think forward do you think like oh we need to meet markets but if we do
[03:24:39] we're still doing prep for game in because
[03:24:41] we are not going to have that much time.
[03:24:42] The advantage of losing in the upper bracket
[03:24:44] is where you already prepped and lost
[03:24:47] the game in so it's not like you're coming
[03:24:49] in and playing a whole new team
[03:24:50] I mean we just play them I think its kind of fresh in our minds So it's not like you're coming in and playing a whole new team.
[03:24:51] I mean, we just play them.
[03:24:52] I think that's kind of fresh on our minds so we don't forget those games very easily
[03:24:56] A lot of times we come into the lower bracket
[03:24:58] And now during this time we are struggling
[03:25:00] Like what do we want to do
[03:25:01] because you really want to focus on anything at the time right now i'm doing this interview no
[03:25:06] because not now i feel like okay like we've done all the prep and then plus two of our
[03:25:10] games and we're like wow we learned so much from those games you know yeah
[03:25:13] so uh it's it's not so bad i think yeah i think either way that's a fantastic
[03:25:17] uh question to end it on so thank you lacoste thank you boxy as well congratulations for
[03:25:21] being out playstation mvp thank you also what do i win you don't get a playstation a controller congratulations on being our PlayStation MVP. Thank you.
[03:25:23] What do I win?
[03:25:24] You don't get a PlayStation.
[03:25:25] A controller.
[03:25:26] I win...
[03:25:26] First handshake.
[03:25:27] I was told to stop saying that.
[03:25:28] Pleasure.
[03:25:29] Don't play Boxy,
[03:25:30] you got that.
[03:25:32] And you've got one more extra question about position four morphing right now but people
[03:25:39] he's gonna dm you we're going to go to our lower bracket
[03:25:42] we're going to thank you so much box Bugsie. I'll let you head off for a path to the Grand Slam.
[03:25:45] Thank you guys.
[03:25:46] I'm heading off.
[03:25:47] Yup, you're walking off right foot then left foot
[03:25:49] and then right foot.
[03:25:50] Stop talking into the mic as you're walking!
[03:25:52] He's like yo, I'm leaving!
[03:25:53] Breaking the immersion.
[03:25:54] Look these guys they're leaving to get ready for the grand finals though.
[03:25:59] Team Liquid a very quick switch to OpenTastic from them it does mean
[03:26:03] that Falcons will be doing a leaving of their own.
[03:26:06] And that's this tournament.
[03:26:07] Let's hear some words from their captain, Snake King and his ex-admins here.
[03:26:13] Thank you very much.
[03:26:14] I am joined by Snake King of Team Falcons, which
[03:26:17] I imagine despite all the championships over the year moments like this still hit it no levels
[03:26:24] of trophies can really diminish anytime a loss like this happens
[03:26:28] on a stage like this. So,
[03:26:30] just wondering what's going through your mind right now?
[03:26:33] I mean obviously
[03:26:34] there's definitely flashbacks
[03:26:36] of the mistakes I feel like I made during the game, maybe draft blunders.
[03:26:40] There's obviously there's regrets
[03:26:41] but I think the most important thing is
[03:26:43] we need to learn from these mistakes
[03:26:46] and not let it kill us
[03:26:48] because what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.
[03:26:49] And then we need to evolve
[03:26:50] and be better at TI.
[03:26:52] There have been a lot of people
[03:26:54] trying to kill Team Falcons over the year
[03:26:56] and the fact that
[03:26:57] it finally happened now...
[03:26:59] Do you feel this tournament was the culmination of
[03:27:01] the target being on your back for so long?
[03:27:03] Everyone has been scrutinizing what your team is capable of.
[03:27:07] You guys have been setting the benchmark
[03:27:09] and perhaps this time
[03:27:11] it finally caught up? I don't think
[03:27:13] there's so much about other people who have to
[03:27:15] target our back. I feel like we definitely have targeted
[03:27:16] our back, but I think the main thing is
[03:27:18] we performed not as well as we should
[03:27:21] be able to. And I think our understanding
[03:27:23] of the meta, of having all these auras
[03:27:25] was not as good and
[03:27:27] fighting on those timings once we
[03:27:29] because both versus Gaiman and Liquid, once they got these pipe crimson TIMINGS ONCE WE, BECAUSE BOTH VERSUS GAMING AND LIQUID, ONCE
[03:27:32] THEY GOT THESE PIPE CRIMSON
[03:27:33] GREEFS, THIS COMBINATION OF
[03:27:34] ITEMS, AND THEN THEY FORCED
[03:27:36] THIS FIGHT.
[03:27:37] AND THEN WE END UP TAKING IT
[03:27:38] AND IT DOESN'T GO WELL INTO OUR
[03:27:40] FAVOR.
[03:27:41] I THINK LIKE IT'S PARTLY AN UNDERSTANDING ISSUE. it doesn't go well into our favor and i think like it's partly of an understanding issue um that we
[03:27:44] actually cannot fight to this until we find a solution or like the troll acts for example in
[03:27:48] the second game and we just didn't have any solution after gaming rolled us over in the upper series as well.
[03:27:56] Dude, I love the analytical mind! You just hit the ground running immediately trying to reverse engineer what happened
[03:28:02] so i've no doubt whatsoever you guys are going to be able
[03:28:04] to grow from this for the next month as you look forward
[03:28:07] towards Copenhagen,
[03:28:09] What's gonna be your preparation or rather maybe even
[03:28:11] what's even going to be your relaxation?
[03:28:13] We're all going to go home and just finally reset
[03:28:16] because we had a two or three week boot camp leading into Rehab Masters.
[03:28:20] So, we are going take a little break for couple of weeks
[03:28:22] then we are going fly to bootcamp
[03:28:24] and then train for TI go fly to boot camp,
[03:28:24] and then we're going to train for TI again.
[03:28:26] Can't wait to see it happen!
[03:28:27] Any parting words that you'd have
[03:28:28] for all the Falcons fans who've been cheering you on
[03:28:30] and have joined the flock over this year?
[03:28:34] I appreciate you guys for supporting us,
[03:28:36] our journey ends here but it's only
[03:28:38] the beginning.
[03:28:40] Snaking? I have no doubt that that is
[03:28:42] the case. Congratulations on an amazing run
[03:28:44] condolences that it ends here can't't wait to see what you're capable of in
[03:28:46] Copenhagen as we send it back to the studio.
[03:28:50] We thought that the low bracket momentum for Falcons after yesterday could have been enough
[03:28:55] for them, but today it just wasn't their day.
[03:28:58] Liquid outclassed them,
[03:28:59] outplayed them and outsmarted them in drafts
[03:29:01] and because of that they get to crush
[03:29:03] their key. The favorites coming into
[03:29:05] this everyone was looking at them and uh 33 he's
[03:29:09] definitely enjoying it crushing his ex-teammates pretty much he's in this hydraulic press
[03:29:15] thunder members and let's see how it goes.
[03:29:18] It's going in.
[03:29:19] We're gonna raid it.
[03:29:20] Let's see if it breaks.
[03:29:21] Putting enough pressure
[03:29:22] on it, he's really
[03:29:22] yep.
[03:29:24] Onslaught is very
[03:29:24] hyped.
[03:29:25] He just kept
[03:29:27] going I thought
[03:29:27] he was gonna stop
[03:29:28] but he's putting more pressure on him. No he's repressing. He just kept going. I thought he was gonna stop, but...
[03:29:28] He's putting more pressure on it.
[03:29:29] No, he's reversing!
[03:29:30] Oh, he's reversing it.
[03:29:31] He's putting more pressure on the thing which is reversing it.
[03:29:33] I saw it backstage with Purge and
[03:29:36] It looks way cooler in person
[03:29:39] than it does when you watch it.
[03:29:40] So I feel like when you're there,
[03:29:42] it's actually super hyped
[03:29:44] to actually do it
[03:29:45] and every team had falcons
[03:29:47] on their mind
[03:29:47] that they wanted to take out and
[03:29:51] be the ones to do it, be the ones
[03:29:53] to crush Falken's key. 3-3 has
[03:29:55] to feel good here. I want to remind
[03:29:57] everyone as well that
[03:29:59] team that wins the trophy here,
[03:30:00] the added bonus for themselves
[03:30:02] is they get to pick three keys
[03:30:04] of other teams
[03:30:05] to put in the base
[03:30:06] of their trophy.
[03:30:07] And so now I'm thinking
[03:30:08] with a game in Gladiators
[03:30:10] and Team Liquid finals,
[03:30:12] how likely is it that the team
[03:30:14] Falcons key will end up? It's going to be there.
[03:30:16] 100%.
[03:30:17] Them being the best team of 2024
[03:30:19] pretty much, and I think coming into like this tournament everybody is gonna doing extra prep for
[03:30:25] falcons because this is the team to beat and they managed to you know snatch a couple of
[03:30:31] tournaments off other people so So it's gonna be spicy
[03:30:33] and it's going to be one of the grand finals
[03:30:35] Of course Team Falcons and maybe
[03:30:37] something from The Pubs, you know? Maybe some beef
[03:30:39] depending who is going to be the one choosing it
[03:30:41] Yeah I was just going to say if it was just Amar on
[03:30:44] the golden key,
[03:30:45] they would still be
[03:30:46] the one that every team chooses.
[03:30:47] No, what I do want
[03:30:49] to hear though from each
[03:30:50] one of you is
[03:30:51] what you expect Game and Gladiators
[03:30:53] are three teams for them,
[03:30:54] and the three teams with Team Liquid.
[03:30:56] I know the answer so I'll tell you.
[03:30:57] Okay.
[03:30:58] I have already asked when and blitz.
[03:31:01] Yeah, that's all point liquid liquid this dialogue. Liquid, liquid.
[03:31:05] Falcons.
[03:31:06] So this is for gaming gladiators?
[03:31:07] For gaming, yeah.
[03:31:08] Liquid, falcon.
[03:31:10] BB team?
[03:31:12] I was gonna guess that!
[03:31:14] What do you think Liquid's ones will be if they win? I was gonna guess that. And the team is going to choose BGT.
[03:31:17] What do you think Liquid's ones will be if they win?
[03:31:19] Gaiman, of course. Falcons and...
[03:31:21] Not BB Team.
[03:31:23] Spirit please!
[03:31:25] OG.
[03:31:26] Spirit?
[03:31:27] It's not Spirit.
[03:31:29] Because I feel like you've got to respect Spirit winning last year in 2TIS.
[03:31:32] That's a respect...
[03:31:34] I mean they were reigning champions
[03:31:35] and they ended up falling down in the lower
[03:31:37] bracket to PSG Quest. Like there's this
[03:31:39] momentum, you know?
[03:31:41] And Liquid themselves knocked them down
[03:31:43] to that lower bracket so it's very poetic
[03:31:45] I'll be interested to see. That's what at least one from each of the teams said. I'll be interested to see that's what at least one from each of the teams said, but
[03:31:49] I'll be interested to see who they do eventually change by now.
[03:31:52] Yeah, you never know that the meta changes in Heroes pick the keys that they put
[03:31:57] in the trophy might also change,
[03:31:59] but either way we've got a little bit of time before
[03:32:01] our grand final and so I want to check
[03:32:03] in with Purge and see exactly what he's
[03:32:05] up to around the Esports World Cup.
[03:32:09] Hey guys, we're backstage right now
[03:32:11] just after the match between Team Liquid
[03:32:13] and Team Falcons
[03:32:14] and a lot of stuff has happened.
[03:32:15] If you take a look around the room
[03:32:16] it's very busy in here.
[03:32:18] There's tons of people.
[03:32:19] This is the room that Falcons are probably currently in,
[03:32:22] talking to each other and discussing what went wrong.
[03:32:25] But in the meantime, we have a ton of interviews going on at the same time.
[03:32:28] We've got Insani interviewing.
[03:32:31] We've got 3-3 interviewing. 3-3 just came off the main panel
[03:32:32] there's so many moving pieces that happen
[03:32:34] to make all these things work and these are interviews
[03:32:36] with different language sources and other
[03:32:38] journalists and things like that
[03:32:40] tons of crew on set prepping for the next stage
[03:32:42] because so many things need to happen before
[03:32:44] the next match. In fact I believe
[03:32:46] the standard is teams have about an hour off
[03:32:49] between lower bracket final and winter bracket finals to gather themselves,
[03:32:52] relax a little bit, eat
[03:32:54] and prepare for the grand finals so that we have a really
[03:32:56] good match. So they've got to fit all this stuff in
[03:32:58] in addition to their prep before they can
[03:33:00] play matches. And if you're curious how this stuff works,
[03:33:02] usually it's just coordinating ahead of time with
[03:33:04] player managers and things like that to make sure our
[03:33:06] expectations are all the same in that
[03:33:08] we're seeing and experiencing
[03:33:10] fair standards and things like that so
[03:33:12] that's a little bit of stuff that's happening oh and i think i saw 33 crush
[03:33:15] the key over there as well it's busy anyways
[03:33:18] that's just a little picture what's happening backstage
[03:33:20] in these chaotic times we'll be back at some point with the grand finals.
[03:33:28] Thank you, Fudge.
[03:33:29] He was giving us that insight about all the moving parts
[03:33:31] behind the scenes there.
[03:33:34] And also that it is going to be
[03:33:35] a bit of an elongated break
[03:33:37] before the grand finals.
[03:33:38] We've got to give Team Liquid
[03:33:39] a little bit of time to reset.
[03:33:40] And so I want to fill it
[03:33:41] very briefly with the three
[03:33:43] of you to talk about
[03:33:44] the last three weeks that has been Riyadh Masters at Esports World Cup and
[03:33:47] obviously get your prediction on that grand final if you want to start us off
[03:33:50] please Ashley. I mean it's been a fun three weeks,
[03:33:54] the Dota has been really good but for me the most exciting part was
[03:33:57] also seeing the other broadcasts going on at the same time
[03:34:00] like right across from us
[03:34:02] and seeing the excitement from other games too
[03:34:05] because this isn't just about
[03:34:07] Dota. The WC taught everything
[03:34:08] and being a part of that was way cooler than I thought
[03:34:11] it would be. My finalist predictions?
[03:34:12] I think probably gaming will take it
[03:34:15] but Liquid looked really good just now so i don't
[03:34:16] want to jinx anybody that's look that's totally fair sometimes
[03:34:19] you're a bit superstitious what about isoplicost
[03:34:22] ah it's been great so far you know this is my third time in riyadh
[03:34:25] always a pleasure and also you know talking to other analysts
[03:34:29] talking the other casters from different uh games of course might pick up you know some
[03:34:34] of the games as well maybe mlbb may be maybe Honor of Kings. We might get
[03:34:39] hooked on it but overall
[03:34:41] tournament has been great.
[03:34:43] We had some like great underdog stories
[03:34:45] PSG Quest the playing team that reached top
[03:34:47] six almost managed to get into top four as well but
[03:34:50] overall dota has been good i like the meta how it shaped up after like the group stages we have
[03:34:56] the playoff meta as well and And for the prediction, I would
[03:35:00] say that this is not going to be a 3-0.
[03:35:03] Oh, I like that though!
[03:35:04] So you know, I didn't say what sort of prediction. It's a great
[03:35:06] prediction. That's actually a bold prediction given how
[03:35:08] these tend to go.
[03:35:10] It's bold when you consider 2023, but not
[03:35:13] bold when you consider how these teams have looked
[03:35:14] in this tournament. I would
[03:35:17] personally mirror the same things that you guys
[03:35:19] said. I think having a tournament that is just a celebration of esports
[03:35:23] is extremely nice i don't know how you guys felt growing up but i feel like gamers you're kind
[03:35:29] of a bunch of nerds you Sometimes you feel like an outcast or
[03:35:32] an escape element to playing these games
[03:35:34] and we finally all get to come together
[03:35:36] as a community and say,
[03:35:37] We love video games.
[03:35:38] This is here to stay.
[03:35:40] This is the new sports.
[03:35:42] And every year it gets better so I hope next
[03:35:44] year we see everything,
[03:35:46] the production up,
[03:35:47] We got the trophy,
[03:35:48] we're doing some crazy key crushing stuff.
[03:35:50] I'm excited to see where the ideas go and in terms of
[03:35:52] the Dota, we had Spirica knocked down into the lower bracket
[03:35:56] BBTeam had their story
[03:35:57] Where they started performing really well
[03:35:58] But through the lower bracket after having a terrible group stage
[03:36:01] So there were a lot of really good storylines and then finally we get a rehash of
[03:36:04] game liquid but in a different era you couldn't write a better story than this
[03:36:09] so i'm very happy with how things went
[03:36:11] You're right it feels full circle almost poetic that we thought
[03:36:15] that it would have been game and liquid in the Grand Finals of Riyadh Masters last year.
[03:36:19] But after a whole 12 months
[03:36:21] We do have gaming and team or liquid in the grand finals here at Riyadh Masters 2024.
[03:36:26] We're going to head to a break,
[03:36:27] And if you want to fill it in don't forget there is either PUBG Mobile
[03:36:31] Going on some other streams or CS2
[03:36:32] If that tickles your fancy but make sure you stay tuned Because we'll come back with our Grand Finals STREAMS OR CS2 IF THAT TICKLES YOUR FANCY BUT MAKE SURE YOU STAY TUNED BECAUSE WE'LL COME BACK
[03:36:37] WITH OUR GRAND FINAL GAMING GLADIES OF TEAM LIQUID WHO KNOWS HE'LL TAKE IT so so so so so so so so so so so.
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[03:40:02] . so. Hey everybody, welcome to the Falcons HQ.
[03:40:37] That's where the Falcons players from all across
[03:40:39] all the different esports here.
[03:40:40] The Esports World Cup
[03:40:42] come home to make their fans
[03:40:44] look at their acquired trophies
[03:40:45] play some games
[03:40:47] we're going to explore
[03:40:48] the HQ a little bit
[03:40:49] We're gonna go around
[03:40:50] and see the sights
[03:40:51] and the sounds maybe even talk to one of the falcons
[03:40:55] probably not though i wouldn't get excited for that we'll see what happens
[03:40:57] all right i'm not going to make your promises i'm just taking you on a tour
[03:41:00] let's check it out!
[03:41:03] That one doesn't matter, listen, there are
[03:41:05] a lot of trophies in this building
[03:41:07] at least more than six
[03:41:09] There is another wall of trophies
[03:41:11] but what really matters for Team Falcons
[03:41:14] is this bad boy.
[03:41:15] This is ESL One
[03:41:17] Birmingham, baby! Biggest
[03:41:19] trophy? Yeah!
[03:41:21] Because hardest game. That's right, that's the Dota squad that got these people this trophy.
[03:41:27] So Falcons, yeah, you might have unlimited success in other games.
[03:41:30] Probably nearly unstoppable.
[03:41:32] Crowds of people gathering for everyone but the Dota people,
[03:41:35] but let me tell you we got the biggest trophy baby
[03:41:38] so that's game baby!
[03:41:40] Woo!
[03:41:41] Hello, we are at The Booth here.
[03:41:43] What is your name sir?
[03:41:44] Sod it. My friend what do we have here? We are at the booth here. What is your name, sir? Salih.
[03:41:44] My friend.
[03:41:45] What do we have here?
[03:41:46] We have an action gate.
[03:41:47] We will see a red blue.
[03:41:49] You start with touch the red one and the blue one.
[03:41:52] And if you see the red one, it was jump.
[03:41:55] All right, you show me! Here we go.
[03:42:01] Okay, what have we got there?
[03:42:03] That was impressive. How did you learn that?
[03:42:05] Score...score alert...board... That was impressive. How did you learn them? Score, score alert 40!
[03:42:09] You guys might not know this but I am a dance dance revolution expert
[03:42:13] You might have heard of me before
[03:42:15] My name is Quick... This will be the first time i've exercised in six years yeah yeah more than 40.
[03:42:25] i'm fine i'm careful. I'm careful bro, I'm careful.
[03:42:28] Oh yeah!
[03:42:31] I'm careful! Stand back children!
[03:42:34] Small children get away!
[03:42:36] It's dangerous oh no easy easy easy easy easy oh i got long
[03:42:43] oh you can just cheat at this easy easy easy i got long legs I have 12 children!
[03:43:03] What? I actually beat you?
[03:43:05] That's the first time I've moved in years.
[03:43:07] 43!
[03:43:09] That's long length, baby.
[03:43:11] They call me Albatross.
[03:43:13] Look at these boys.
[03:43:15] You ain't got to move
[03:43:17] when you're tall.
[03:43:20] First time is good, brother.
[03:43:23] You have a good day.
[03:43:25] You're a good man.
[03:43:26] Guys don't exercise.
[03:43:28] Don't look...don't exercise.
[03:43:32] Go around me, please, Falcon people.
[03:43:38] That's right baby!
[03:43:40] That's the Team Falcons area.
[03:43:43] What did we learn here today?
[03:43:44] We win big trophies.
[03:43:48] I probably have a cardiovascular issue.
[03:43:52] And you can have so much fun at Team Falcons.
[03:43:56] So go Falcon Puncher ticket, and we'll see you here.
[03:43:59] I have been out of breath for four hours.
[03:44:01] Bye guys!
[03:44:01] See ya!
[03:44:03] Punched! Bye, guys. See you. Punch!
[03:44:04] Ah!
[03:44:12] Hey, everybody.
[03:44:18] Welcome to another Re-Out Roundtable. I am SirActionSlacks here with Insania and Boxy on Team Liquid. So good for you guys to join us here today! Welcome to the podcasty thing where we don't talk about dota so thank you thank you my friend what
[03:44:28] have you been doing outside of dota mr boxey
[03:44:31] i mean i can tell you what I do.
[03:44:35] Okay let me just tell you the last two weeks
[03:44:37] I've been at boot camp playing Dota
[03:44:39] What is that like?
[03:44:40] And then before that
[03:44:41] Yeah
[03:44:42] I'm just playing Dota
[03:44:43] You wake up, play Dota
[03:44:44] Eat, sleep and go to bed
[03:44:45] How many hours per day too many too many and also not enough
[03:44:49] You know but before that it's like too long ago
[03:44:51] So I don't remember why I can tell you what I did though
[03:44:54] Okay, well I went camping for the first time since i was like a kid that's crazy yeah so uh
[03:44:59] neither my girlfriend or i are like big camper type people you know flexing
[03:45:05] no problem we're not the camper type people.
[03:45:07] That's not flexing!
[03:45:08] I don't know how that's like, I'm trying to set up a set for something.
[03:45:11] Continue, continue.
[03:45:12] It's like flexing for depressed people.
[03:45:16] I have no idea how that's flexing.
[03:45:19] So we decided... Someone loves me, that's flexing bro!
[03:45:23] That's flexing? Yeah.
[03:45:27] This is flexing bro! The like that's not flexing i probably meant the camping part is
[03:45:30] the flexing are you okay well that's right
[03:45:31] you don't go camping you're like no it's
[03:45:33] good then you go let's just continue
[03:45:37] i'm in love that's's flexing, bro.
[03:45:40] Anyway, so we decided to go camping.
[03:45:42] Yes!
[03:45:46] In like a tent?
[03:45:48] So we bought the cheapest tent
[03:45:50] oh no and it was like one of those you just like pull it out of a bag and it
[03:45:52] just pops up you don't have to do all this sticks
[03:45:54] what are they talking about it's like a pop-up them
[03:45:57] what yeah those are real okay so it's like in a circle. It's like those...
[03:46:00] You're like...
[03:46:01] You know you order
[03:46:01] like a festival?
[03:46:02] When you spin
[03:46:03] with your mouth
[03:46:04] and like spring soap.
[03:46:05] No, no, no.
[03:46:05] You unzip
[03:46:06] like a thing
[03:46:06] and then you
[03:46:08] take off the string
[03:46:10] that's holding
[03:46:10] it all together and then literally but how do
[03:46:12] you repackage it it has like a way that you pack i can show you later you leave it genius design
[03:46:18] the bears take it they live they raise their families there.
[03:46:22] Okay yes.
[03:46:23] So you know like normally I assume experienced campers look up the weather and figure out
[03:46:28] all this stuff?
[03:46:29] We didn't do any of that we just sat in a car put all these things on the back drove
[03:46:31] at some point we called up a camping place
[03:46:33] and asked if they could hold us there.
[03:46:35] We didn't just camp in the woods!
[03:46:39] I feel like you're going to a hotel!
[03:46:41] No! It's like a camping place
[03:46:44] you know what your don't listen to this if you're going to
[03:46:46] like a public park after i tell people where you're going
[03:46:49] no okay okay you like pay somewhere to go to like a place i mean last time i went camping you just me and my
[03:46:56] friends who's went into the woods near a trail i didn't bring a sleeping bag i almost like died
[03:47:01] from like freezing to death yeah and. And we were just camping.
[03:47:06] They didn't call anyone.
[03:47:06] There was,
[03:47:06] like,
[03:47:07] a German guy with his kid
[03:47:07] waking me up
[03:47:08] in the morning.
[03:47:09] He was like,
[03:47:09] hello!
[03:47:10] I was like...
[03:47:11] Hello!
[03:47:12] That was your
[03:47:12] camping experience?
[03:47:13] Yeah.
[03:47:13] He had,
[03:47:14] like,
[03:47:14] a really big RV there,
[03:47:15] guys. Who is this guys german there was actually
[03:47:18] it was like legit only germans okay every license plate on every rv was like it had
[03:47:23] like you know german licenses sure there's a lot of german or up your tent they made you dinner oh my god i can't this is like a mockery of
[03:47:39] like no what it is so we went to the camping place
[03:47:42] we set up our tents and it's like sweden in the middle of
[03:47:45] the summer so the sun is up and it's like you know 1am
[03:47:50] we go to sleep it's pretty nice we built these like air mattresses that we got from my parents
[03:47:56] and they're like my mom told told me one of them leaks.
[03:47:59] We don't know which one but one of the leaks just so you guys know.
[03:48:01] No!
[03:48:03] So about three hours after we fall asleep I can feel the ground on my back.
[03:48:08] Oh no!
[03:48:08] And it's like there is zero air left.
[03:48:10] Oh, no!
[03:48:11] My girlfriend is in the car because she's freezing too much.
[03:48:14] She's in the car?
[03:48:15] She put on a heater.
[03:48:17] A heater?! In the car?!
[03:48:18] Yeah, yeah. She's ditched it's like pouring down
[03:48:21] yeah i don't know you didn't mention that so
[03:48:23] it was raining it started raining at some point
[03:48:26] and did they call the camping people. The AC is not working yet.
[03:48:30] I would have called them and be like this camping experience is not up to par.
[03:48:35] It says five star camping on the website but this is not the weather we booked.
[03:48:40] We booked sunshine near Pirates.
[03:48:42] It's just a location that they keep track of
[03:48:45] but there's no one else there.
[03:48:46] You really hung up on these kids?
[03:48:47] There's a bunch of other people.
[03:48:48] Let's finish the story first.
[03:48:48] What happened?
[03:48:49] There is no story.
[03:48:50] Just ask me what I did. this is what i did so she's
[03:48:55] it ended up with us like packing up our stuff and then leaving
[03:48:59] all camping no like we stayed the night okay and you woke up you had a nice breakfast
[03:49:03] we woke up we sat in the car we drove did you stop stopping mcdonald's on the way no okay so
[03:49:10] we actually learned that if you go to norwegian gas stations
[03:49:12] yeah the hot dogs they serve are way nicer than the swedish ones
[03:49:16] and i never thought i would say anything good about norway ever in my life wow
[03:49:20] well that came out of nowhere that's a left field what's wrong with norway but this is like it's
[03:49:23] just like a sweet little way it's like boundary you know like okay sure sure all right that's
[03:49:29] a lot to unpack uh congrats i hope we had a lot of fun. It sounded not fun.
[03:49:34] I enjoyed camping!
[03:49:36] It sounded like a better camping trip than the one I did.
[03:49:42] I mean, I've done that kind of camping trip too but i feel like the normal there's
[03:49:45] like a lot of like camping places yeah is that that's the thing in the
[03:49:49] u.s for sure it's no a camping place
[03:49:52] in my mind this is there's like have you never been to a camping place?
[03:49:56] Yes but there's not other people there.
[03:49:58] No but like
[03:50:00] You literally just drive into
[03:50:02] the wilderness and set up
[03:50:04] That is one way of doing it And and then there's like places in the wilderness
[03:50:07] that are like...
[03:50:08] you know they take care of this area
[03:50:10] where people set up their tents
[03:50:11] So you're like making a bathroom?
[03:50:12] And there's like a bathroom
[03:50:13] in the middle of like the place
[03:50:14] That's like a commune
[03:50:15] There's like a bunch of tents setting around now you can go pay like
[03:50:21] to sit in the grass they were like they're like mowed the lawn and everything what
[03:50:25] are you talking about none of this is real i think it just
[03:50:27] went on airbnb yeah i think he got scammed i'm being professionally gassed
[03:50:33] all good i do remember what i did not bring my brick oh i tried out like, oh.
[03:50:40] I can't say it.
[03:50:42] What?
[03:50:43] No but it's not good for me and not good for you.
[03:50:48] I went on a bicycle and it ended great. oh not good for me no go through i went i
[03:50:48] went on a bicycle and it ended great okay
[03:50:52] okay move on whatever that dark that means something you don't want to
[03:50:57] know i don't want to know ask me something else okay
[03:50:59] you got it
[03:51:00] why were there so many germans on your
[03:51:02] camping trip
[03:51:03] because germany has a
[03:51:06] much higher population than sweden on a
[03:51:08] much smaller area.
[03:51:10] So when they want to go and like hike or
[03:51:13] buy a summer house, they go to
[03:51:15] Sweden or Norway or something.
[03:51:17] Same with the Dutch because
[03:51:19] they're concentrated and Sweden has a lot of area.
[03:51:22] Okay! Thank you!
[03:51:23] And nice nature I guess.
[03:51:25] Alright. If two were stuck in like a wilderness survival scenario...
[03:51:31] Who would you eat first? in like a wilderness survival scenario.
[03:51:33] Who would you eat first?
[03:51:36] Yeah, okay, we've had this question on our team.
[03:51:36] Sure.
[03:51:38] Like who would survive the longest?
[03:51:38] Yeah, yeah.
[03:51:41] And what I feel like most people don't know about Boxy is
[03:51:42] he would live.
[03:51:43] Like, for hours.
[03:51:44] I don't know about that.
[03:51:45] The thing is, I don't know.
[03:51:46] Like, I will look at a plant and I
[03:51:48] will be like, is this the most common plant in Sweden?
[03:51:51] Or is it like a rare toxic plant and i don't have no idea that might
[03:51:54] be the case unless there's a blueberry but if you're like okay for like a strawberry
[03:51:57] i would just die i think that's not true i think you would fight your way to survival
[03:52:01] like if a bear attacked...
[03:52:03] Yeah.
[03:52:03] You'd look at William and you're like, he's pretty big and strong.
[03:52:05] Sure.
[03:52:06] He'd be scared.
[03:52:08] So he'd die.
[03:52:09] Boxie would, like, befriend the bear.
[03:52:10] But William does just...
[03:52:11] I feel like he doesn't do well with physical altercations.
[03:52:16] Sure.
[03:52:17] Every time I punch him, he's like ow!
[03:52:19] Aslan does.
[03:52:21] He'd be the guy that would probably throw someone into
[03:52:23] the Bears path while he's running.
[03:52:26] He'd already like set up a deal with three other people on the team and like we're sacrificing Aiden yeah, before
[03:52:30] danger.
[03:52:30] He's like screaming behind him.
[03:52:32] He's that guy box is like the guy who just run off into the woods,
[03:52:35] somehow create his own house.
[03:52:37] Have these animals that live alongside him.
[03:52:40] I can see that!
[03:52:42] When i was 8 we did learn how to make a wind...
[03:52:46] Little Wind. That wasn't school. When I was eight, we did learn how to make like a wind. Were you scout? Little wind...
[03:52:47] No that wasn't school, like mandatory training.
[03:52:49] I wasn't a scout.
[03:52:50] You made what?
[03:52:51] A wind?
[03:52:52] Like a wind shelter.
[03:52:53] Wind shelter.
[03:52:54] So you take a bunch of sticks and put them on the side. Put in little tarp.
[03:52:57] It rains it's dry.
[03:52:59] A wind shelter?
[03:53:00] You don't know what this is?
[03:53:01] It's like sticks and a tarp.
[03:53:03] Isn't that like a house or...
[03:53:04] No, no.
[03:53:05] So if you told somebody you bought a house and then showed them the picture of it
[03:53:10] No, it's like...if it starts raining and you don't want to be wet and cold
[03:53:15] You build like a little...
[03:53:17] Yeah, like a wooden like a little wooden tent it's a little wooden tent yes
[03:53:21] wow sweden is crazy that's the curriculum this is wild man have you ever gone penguin sledding
[03:53:26] what is that like you hop on the back of a penguin and then you go down like slides.
[03:53:30] In Dota?
[03:53:31] No!
[03:53:32] Yeah, like what do you mean?
[03:53:33] Like in Sweden.
[03:53:34] Like with a physical penguin?
[03:53:35] Yeah!
[03:53:36] A real penguin?
[03:53:37] Yeah!
[03:53:38] And screaming all the time? There's, like,
[03:53:39] a place in Stockholm
[03:53:40] where they're really friendly.
[03:53:41] No, you don't go on a...
[03:53:42] It's like riding a horse
[03:53:43] but it's like a penguin.
[03:53:44] This is insane.
[03:53:45] There's not an entire
[03:53:46] Okay, next time
[03:53:47] you come for Dream League
[03:53:48] and we're not
[03:53:48] going to get gaslit by you about it that is the
[03:53:51] stupidest giant they're small i mean maybe you're trying to make it worse you don't want that little
[03:53:58] no it's fine have you seen anything inside of a penguin's mouth no it's like a thousand daggers
[03:54:04] so they don't bite their friendly penguins no if i sat on penguin would definitely be grabbing that
[03:54:08] but you're too big they won't let you go who could literally says no
[03:54:13] Body is not being enough to support
[03:54:14] I'm not gonna be gaslit by this little unbelievable stupid thing if I told your son about this
[03:54:19] Would he not want to go? He's an idiot. He's like three, he doesn't know anything.
[03:54:23] If I told him Pokemon exists you'd be like
[03:54:25] oh yahoo!
[03:54:27] And believes anything.
[03:54:29] Are we done with this or what?
[03:54:32] Anyways thank you guys for watching the podcast thing i haven't got my hand signals so uh
[03:54:37] are you guys gonna go on any uh re-odd adventures did you go last time we went
[03:54:41] go karting the first time go koreakarting i saw in the pamphlet
[03:54:44] you can go hiking hike it from like 8 to 15 during the day like a six hour hike
[03:54:50] you do really yeah you would go out american eagle knows about how much i love hiking
[03:54:55] what's that a reference to i didn't add once you did an ad for america and they needed
[03:54:59] they needed someone to like have an interest wow and you know players Dota players don't have interest.
[03:55:05] So Joey our like content guy for Liquid he's like Aiden there is only one person I believe that could pull this off.
[03:55:13] So yeah I went hiking and nature photography
[03:55:17] engines in engines and then they're like filming me well that's cool did you uh you know did it
[03:55:23] work out no i think the video has like 200 views.
[03:55:28] And it's unlisted now. But you got some jeans.
[03:55:30] Yeah, I got some jeans. So it worked out.
[03:55:32] For me, it worked out. It was great.
[03:55:34] That was the best five hours of my life.
[03:55:37] I keep telling Nico that we should do more outdoor stuff like i want to go snowboarding in the alps yeah i'm trying to get like
[03:55:40] the whole team to go sure and then they're like well what if you break it
[03:55:42] have heard of michael schumacher no do you know who he is michael
[03:55:46] shoehofer schumacher. Schumacher.
[03:55:47] No.
[03:55:48] It's like a driver.
[03:55:49] Driver, it was like a Formula One dude?
[03:55:50] Yeah and he went skiing
[03:55:52] And they broke his hand
[03:55:53] He's in a coma now basically
[03:55:55] That's dark
[03:55:56] Okay great well thank you guys so much
[03:55:57] I sure hope this video gets more than 200 likes Ooh, that's dark. Okay, great. Well, thank you guys so much.
[03:55:58] I sure hope this video gets more than 200 views
[03:56:00] and you are not in a coma after witnessing it.
[03:56:04] Thank you, Team Liquid.
[03:56:06] Always a pleasure.
[03:56:07] We'll see more of you guys at the Riyadh Masters. Thanks for watching. What arc are you on in One Piece?
[03:56:23] I finished it.
[03:56:24] You finished, how?
[03:56:25] What do you mean how?
[03:56:26] How is that possible dude?
[03:56:28] It's really not that long.
[03:56:29] I would be done for another thousand episodes.
[03:56:32] People are complaining about the most recent stuff,
[03:56:35] I told you I spoiled myself, do you agree with the complaints coming out?
[03:56:40] I don't read the complaints.
[03:56:41] I did a tier list though recently, it's on my Twitter.
[03:56:44] I saw that. It's hashtag esportworldcup
[03:56:46] I noticed that you... yeah, hashtag esports world cup
[03:56:49] of course shoutouts to RIAB Masters masters these personal cup you rated drum Island very low
[03:56:54] No, I didn't I think he did
[03:56:56] Know for sure it's like a or s tier bar
[03:56:59] I'm pretty sure you're ready to like be your seats here. You want proof? Yeah, so what do I get if you're wrong?
[03:57:04] What are you you want my I'm not gonna give you this
[03:57:06] This cost me a lot of money. What do you want your guitar? Okay can have the guitar
[03:57:11] Is guitar copyrighted can we say guitar. Okay. Is guitar copyrighted?
[03:57:12] Can we say guitar?
[03:57:14] Is that owned by someone?
[03:57:16] Okay, Drum Island
[03:57:17] A+.
[03:57:18] Oh, it's because
[03:57:19] you have the pluses
[03:57:20] so I...
[03:57:20] Okay,
[03:57:20] cause I saw
[03:57:21] on the small little thing
[03:57:22] and I thought
[03:57:22] that was like B tier.
[03:57:23] A plus.
[03:57:25] Okay.
[03:57:25] Let me see this again.
[03:57:26] There you go.
[03:57:28] What do you have in S plus?
[03:57:30] Wano and NES Lobby.
[03:57:31] Oh, I've not seen those ones.
[03:57:32] Uh, wait.
[03:57:33] Is Wno early?
[03:57:35] It's really late.
[03:57:37] Second to last.
[03:57:39] Dress for Rose was good.
[03:57:41] I'm at the end of Arabasta
[03:57:43] and that one's pretty good. Yeah, one's pretty good.
[03:57:45] Yeah,
[03:57:45] that was pretty good.
[03:57:46] Yeah.
[03:57:47] You just started.
[03:57:48] That's like 150 episodes
[03:57:50] in or something.
[03:57:50] Last time I talked to you
[03:57:51] which was like a year ago
[03:57:52] you were like
[03:57:53] oh I'm at the start
[03:57:53] of Alabasta.
[03:57:55] That's not true. you like watch it slower than george rr martin writes books
[03:57:59] no that's not true it's because i read the i read the reddits and then i spoil
[03:58:02] stuff and then i'm like well i can skip this arc and i go back and watch it
[03:58:05] because spoiling it does it is not the same as watching
[03:58:08] because the pacing matters.
[03:58:10] I see.
[03:58:10] Well, thank you guys for watching this boring interview.
[03:58:13] And back to you, Sheever.
[03:58:16] That's going to get bleeped. Thank you for watching this boring interview. Back to you, Sheever. That's going to get bleeped.
[03:58:16] Thank you for watching this morning interview.
[03:58:18] Back to you, Sheever.
[03:58:39] Hey everybody! Welcome to another episode of Guess the Clip. That is right, we are playing an auditory game with two very auditory people. PC? WITH TWO VERY AUDITORY PEOPLE. BCM AND TOMATO, WONDERFUL.
[03:58:42] WELCOME FROM OGE SPORTS!
[03:58:44] HELLO, WELCOME, WELCOME.
[03:58:45] ARE YOU READY TO PLAY THIS GAME?
[03:58:47] MM-HMM.
[03:58:48] GREAT. LET ME EXPLAIN HOW IT GOES. I WILL PLAY YOU A SOUNDTRACK Are you ready to play this game? Great.
[03:58:48] Let me explain how it goes.
[03:58:49] I will play you a sound clip.
[03:58:51] It'll be from one of the games
[03:58:52] you are in on your road
[03:58:54] to Riyadh,
[03:58:55] Road to Riyadh events only.
[03:58:57] You have to guess what's
[03:58:58] happening in the clip, who you're against and what event it was
[03:59:03] are you ready yes do you how do you think you're gonna do you guys don't seem uh
[03:59:07] terrible i think you're going to do terrible?
[03:59:10] Yeah.
[03:59:11] Okay, well we'll find out here we go.
[03:59:14] Always set expectations low.
[03:59:16] You get disappointed by low expectations.
[03:59:18] You can't right?
[03:59:19] No, no you get disappointed by high expectations. Alright here we go! You can't, right? No. It's perfect myself.
[03:59:20] My high expectations.
[03:59:21] All right here we go.
[03:59:22] Here comes a clip.
[03:59:23] Listen close.
[03:59:33] I don this one.
[03:59:36] I know this one, I know this one.
[03:59:38] Oh okay, okay.
[03:59:41] You only heard a ping-a-roll? I know it.
[03:59:42] And dispose...
[03:59:45] I'm gonna stop you here, what is it?
[03:59:48] O G I G Birmingham game 2
[03:59:52] How did you know that? What?! IG Birmingham game too.
[03:59:53] How did you know that? What?!
[03:59:54] Because it's the only game
[03:59:55] except for Prophet 2
[03:59:56] Yeah, I heard the Prophet 2
[03:59:58] That's really clutch
[03:59:59] How do you get in?
[04:00:01] Cause of the Prophet
[04:00:08] That's crazy! Why doesn't he play more profit nobody expected okay
[04:00:14] that was insane you only heard like two seconds in that clip. Holy moly! What a beast.
[04:00:15] I'm sorry, that's me.
[04:00:15] Expectations are set fire now.
[04:00:17] That's Big Pong, I have to say.
[04:00:18] All right, come on over here.
[04:00:19] I'm ready for disappointment.
[04:00:20] Don't disappoint me guys.
[04:00:22] Keep it all locked.
[04:00:24] Here he comes any second now I'm going to go for the last one.
[04:00:49] There's Arasta, a Gyro, a Magnus and Enigma is Ren.
[04:00:54] That's a Pango... yeah that's an Arasta.
[04:00:56] That's a Gyro Q... I don't think it has CM
[04:01:01] What in the world?
[04:01:04] I...don't know
[04:01:07] Clock, CM, Magnus? When did we play...
[04:01:09] We played a Magnus against a Gyro.
[04:01:12] Oh maybe it was Game 3 against Falcons?
[04:01:16] No.
[04:01:17] Because they played Gyro and we had Magnus.
[04:01:19] No, we had Mars.
[04:01:21] We had Magnus that was Medusa but I didn't hear a Medusa.
[04:01:23] Oh...
[04:01:25] I heard Sven.
[04:01:27] When did we play Sven and Gyro?
[04:01:29] Against each other?
[04:01:34] Maybe it's Dream League.
[04:01:37] Dream League, where I played...
[04:01:40] I don't remember what's his goal. I never remember fighting this man.
[04:01:42] Do I ever get to play him?
[04:01:44] That is a fun goal.
[04:01:47] Give us a hint, give us a hint!
[04:01:49] A hint?! Okay it was a Dream League.
[04:01:50] It was Dream League Season 22.
[04:01:53] So the earlier Dream League this year.
[04:01:55] Because where he was standing in.
[04:01:57] Yes, right.
[04:01:59] You were playing that gyrocopter. Get out! That's right. Because it was a good ability in the first place.
[04:02:00] You were playing that gyro copter.
[04:02:01] Yes, I mean...
[04:02:02] How is the Gyro?
[04:02:03] Yep.
[04:02:05] Guarriators!
[04:02:06] No.
[04:02:08] Seb was not playing the CM.
[04:02:14] Dude, dude... Seb was not playing the CM. I was trying to against a CM because Seb does not play CM.
[04:02:17] That's correct, you were against a CM.
[04:02:20] Who was a cm? Who was cm?
[04:02:26] Snake King against the cm what was this yeah who was team sneaking what are they yeah who else plays yeah pangrind again bangles james fan there was an enigma
[04:02:33] would you like another hint?
[04:02:35] You were playing Penga!
[04:02:37] Of course, of course
[04:02:43] Uhhh... okay okay
[04:02:54] no Falcons not gladiators heroic maybe no I think Joe when I could generally be No, no. I played Gyro and when we beat Gaming
[04:02:57] And we also beat...
[04:03:00] Or we lost
[04:03:02] I definitely lane Gyro against Enigma
[04:03:04] It doesn't matter if you won or lost, right?
[04:03:05] Who played Enigma?
[04:03:06] You did win this one!
[04:03:07] We did win.
[04:03:08] You went and it was 24 to 32
[04:03:10] when you guys still won.
[04:03:14] Uhhhhhhh... I was the giant.
[04:03:17] How did we win this game?
[04:03:19] Recently.
[04:03:20] No, I'm afraid it was Maus.
[04:03:23] Maus in Dream League 2022.
[04:03:28] Huh.
[04:03:29] Yeah.
[04:03:30] Who would have thought?
[04:03:32] Would you like to see the game?
[04:03:33] You remember this one?
[04:03:34] I was not in that game.
[04:03:36] Yeah, you were. I lost in that game. Yeah, you were!
[04:03:37] I WAS in the game?
[04:03:38] There you are right there!
[04:03:39] 12-9 rapier
[04:03:41] 1-10 sep striker
[04:03:43] Oh, this is the Ahri smoke
[04:03:45] What?
[04:03:46] Yeah, the Ah smoked. When he smoked
[04:03:48] and got the middle, it was like,
[04:03:50] shut up! Smoke right now!
[04:03:52] And then we got him with our buyback
[04:03:56] He knew, Okay, okay.
[04:03:58] That was a cool story
[04:03:58] but unfortunately incorrect.
[04:04:00] I mean...
[04:04:00] It was a qualifier.
[04:04:02] Well, I mean...
[04:04:03] We get what we get.
[04:04:04] You know?
[04:04:05] What can you do?
[04:04:05] Alright, last one.
[04:04:06] Go out strong, boys.
[04:04:10] Bye, last one. Go out strong boys. Primal.
[04:04:12] We run a hoodling.
[04:04:14] Primal?
[04:04:16] Koro and ODE.
[04:04:17] Bench.
[04:04:18] That was Ko Chakra.
[04:04:21] That's OD yesterday.
[04:04:23] This game we lost and you said
[04:04:26] I don't know why I'm getting last pick
[04:04:27] and we're picking OD.
[04:04:32] Maybe I'm the prime rock? Bench. You are the prime rock so you play against an OD
[04:04:37] Gyro Balrio. Man, what is this draft?
[04:04:42] Tyranas. Dying.
[04:04:45] This is not the Lunal game.
[04:04:47] See that's already toned.
[04:04:49] Against a Chinese team for sure, like Son Masure.
[04:04:55] It has to be like Oreo.
[04:04:56] You're laughing?
[04:04:57] I'm not laughing guys!
[04:04:58] What is this crap?!
[04:05:01] So you wanna bet there's a very wrong extreme game here.
[04:05:04] I mean who else plays OD?
[04:05:05] Either XM or Ori.
[04:05:07] Yeah.
[04:05:11] And he wants a Dream Link.
[04:05:13] It's Zurei!
[04:05:15] I think it's Zurei
[04:05:26] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I was playing Morph against Surrey. We won the first one and we lost the second one. Probably it's Extreme.
[04:05:29] Extreme play on team?
[04:05:30] Yeah, I think so.
[04:05:34] You want to bet?
[04:05:36] I'm going with a Sturei, game one.
[04:05:40] Both wrong, I'm afraid.
[04:05:42] What was the OD?
[04:05:44] I'll give you some hints here.
[04:05:45] Okay, Whisperer was on Omniknight.
[04:05:47] Oh what?
[04:05:48] We lost this game 100%, right?
[04:05:51] Yeah! You lost this game hard.
[04:05:53] Not a great game.
[04:05:54] This was an Omni patch.
[04:05:55] This was when Nero
[04:05:56] was playing Omni.
[04:05:57] It's versus Shopify!
[04:05:59] Gyro IO.
[04:06:00] That is right,
[04:06:01] it was Gyro IO
[04:06:02] Omniknight
[04:06:03] versus Shopify.
[04:06:04] Do you remember the event? Yeah.
[04:06:06] The first Dream League we played, yeah.
[04:06:08] That's right! Congratulations!
[04:06:10] Just want to bring any memories back to you guys?
[04:06:12] Yeah, ones that I wish I didn't have.
[04:06:15] Oh, yeah. A lot of memories.
[04:06:17] A lot of memories.
[04:06:18] Oh no!
[04:06:19] So I've been asking everybody is it better to forget games
[04:06:23] that you lost or do you kind of remember them and think about what went wrong or you just erase
[04:06:28] them from memory i wish i could erase it they should make a machine that's just like yeah
[04:06:34] i had to raise this you just brought it back so thank you for that one.
[04:06:38] I'm so sorry.
[04:06:39] But yeah 90% I would say should erase.
[04:06:44] Okay. Well guys, you definitely remembered a lot!
[04:06:47] You did pretty good.
[04:06:48] What would you rate yourselves?
[04:06:51] 6, because we got one.
[04:06:53] And he did it.
[04:06:54] I don't know why.
[04:06:54] I think you were cheating.
[04:06:55] I mean, he was cheating.
[04:06:56] I think he just did it.
[04:06:57] Yes, he told me before we got in.
[04:07:00] We got 1 out of 3 and we were close on the second one.
[04:07:07] The third one was bad.
[04:07:09] Yeah so 4 points for us. The third one was bad. The third one, yeah so...
[04:07:11] 4.5
[04:07:13] 4.5 equals 5 by lot
[04:07:15] I'll give you a 7 guys
[04:07:17] A seven for the
[04:07:19] joy of being in the building. Thank you, well done!
[04:07:21] A nice C, you still get the degree.
[04:07:24] That was OG coming up for that one
[04:07:26] and we'll see more of OG coming up.
[04:07:27] Thanks for watching! Do you like interviews?
[04:07:38] Yes.
[04:07:40] You like interviews?
[04:07:44] That's the only question that I have.
[04:07:45] What are you doing?
[04:07:47] Hello.
[04:07:48] You're not part of this bit,
[04:07:49] I had a bit prepared for this.
[04:07:51] You don't prepare for interviews.
[04:07:52] Do you like interviews that are more prepared You don't prepare for interviews.
[04:07:55] Do you like interviews that are more prepared or less prepared?
[04:07:58] I just go with the flow, so what's up?
[04:08:03] I wanted to do a bottle flipping thing with you because I know you're a zoomer and you you guys like the tick tocks and stuff for the friggin flipping bottles
[04:08:06] can we do that i did that for school once okay i'm gonna
[04:08:09] hand you the bottle has this enough water it's in it or
[04:08:12] should i drink some i think it's a little too much
[04:08:15] water, I'd say. You kind of want to
[04:08:16] like... here.
[04:08:18] Okay, can you hold the mic and just say interesting stuff
[04:08:20] into the camera while I drink this? Yeah.
[04:08:29] Did you know that BCM stands for Bulgarian Sumer Much? Well, bro, you probably didn't but now you do. Is that fine or a little bit more?
[04:08:34] That's good. You sure? Okay, you're gonna do the bottle flip? Is that fine? Is it better or a little bit more?
[04:08:37] You sure, okay. You're gonna do the bottle flip?
[04:08:39] Okay yeah go ahead
[04:08:42] $50 if you do it
[04:08:46] Nice job! Really well done, really well done.
[04:08:48] I'm quite good at it but I don't like to brag so...
[04:08:50] Nice try, nice try.
[04:08:52] Give me two more tries.
[04:08:54] We're gonna cut this and edit it
[04:08:56] to make it look like you got on the first
[04:08:57] try.
[04:08:58] Yeah just keep doing it.
[04:08:59] I'll just keep flipping.
[04:09:00] Yeah keep going.
[04:09:01] Yeah keep going.
[04:09:02] I haven't done this in like ten years.
[04:09:04] Does it help if I hold the mic right in front of your face while you're doing that?
[04:09:09] No, but it's okay.
[04:09:12] That was really close!
[04:09:16] Okay maybe BZM could do it. He's younger than you right?
[04:09:19] Yeah he is.
[04:09:21] BZM come on, you can do this.
[04:09:23] Does it help if I hold the mic in front of your face?
[04:09:25] No.
[04:09:27] That was worse.
[04:09:29] Try again one more time.
[04:09:34] One more try, one more try.
[04:09:35] He got a bunch of tries, one more try.
[04:09:38] He's just trolling not just him just trolling, not just him.
[04:09:40] You guys can just do it if I want to.
[04:09:44] Okay wait we can...I have an idea okay?
[04:09:48] Can you put the camera like here and I'm just gonna drop it
[04:09:52] and then we'll just make...
[04:09:53] Yeah.
[04:09:54] So get off, yeah.
[04:09:55] Okay.
[04:09:56] Everybody needs to go like oh!
[04:10:02] That's even harder actually. Nice job, really well done.
[04:10:07] I'm quite good at it but I don't like to rock so...
[04:10:10] How did you do that on your first attempt?
[04:10:12] I had a lot of practice back in the day so
[04:10:14] some things stay in your mind and...
[04:10:16] That's good. Congratulations
[04:10:18] and good luck to OG. You still owe me
[04:10:20] $50 by the way.
[04:10:22] I said 50 doll hairs.
[04:10:23] He wasn't listening.
[04:10:24] Back to you.
[04:10:34] Hello everyone! You're back for another exciting adventure in facet ranking! That is right.
[04:10:35] This is the blind facet rank this time with mouse.
[04:10:39] Is that correct?
[04:10:40] The mouse team?
[04:10:41] It's a mouse or mouths you know
[04:10:47] mouse mouses all right we're here with miles and of course we're here with
[04:10:50] omit and beckham is that right all, he told me exactly how to say his name
[04:10:55] I hope I did you justice my man
[04:10:56] This is a fun time, one of our first times together
[04:10:59] I'm horrible at first impressions
[04:11:01] so let's get it started
[04:11:02] Today we'll be playing Rank That Facet.
[04:11:04] You have to put these facets in order, one through ten.
[04:11:07] One is the best, ten is the worst.
[04:11:09] You got 10 facets but you only get one at a time.
[04:11:11] Do you guys know your facets?
[04:11:14] No. Not my name name not all of them
[04:11:17] not all of them do you know the support ones i
[04:11:19] no clue well you know the ones that are the heroes you play though
[04:11:23] yeah of course okay okay all right Well let's see how you do.
[04:11:26] Our first one is Krill Eater.
[04:11:29] Tidehunter begins the game with a much smaller minus 50 attack range
[04:11:33] and minus 50 anchor smash
[04:11:35] then grows as the game continues.
[04:11:37] What do you think?
[04:11:39] Out of 10, like 9 or 8?
[04:11:43] Maybe eight.
[04:11:44] Eight!
[04:11:44] It's not the worst.
[04:11:45] Not the worst but that's pretty bad to start at 8.
[04:11:48] I don't think Tide is that good.
[04:11:51] Why isn't Tide good?
[04:11:52] You know he tanky, he got team fights...
[04:11:55] Why is it bad?
[04:11:56] His impact buys one pipe and just gives aura.
[04:11:59] That's true.
[04:12:00] He's a pipe boy.
[04:12:01] Okay.
[04:12:02] All right.
[04:12:03] Well I'll give it an eight.
[04:12:04] It's starting good.
[04:12:05] All right.
[04:12:06] The quickening.
[04:12:07] I know this one.
[04:12:08] This one's for Abaddon. D dying units near avidon lower the cooldown
[04:12:12] of all his spells the quickening have you seen abaddon
[04:12:16] i've lost on pub with it. I didn't like it.
[04:12:20] What do you think, Venga? I have never seen anyone play it.
[04:12:21] I only see the other ones.
[04:12:22] It's only good in delusion heroes, actually.
[04:12:25] Really?!
[04:12:26] But this includes creeps and creeps!
[04:12:28] Like in the laning phase,
[04:12:29] it's actually kind of cool in the laning phase,
[04:12:30] it's actually kind of Maybe like a six.
[04:12:31] A six?
[04:12:32] I would say.
[04:12:33] What do you think?
[04:12:34] I would rate it
[04:12:34] lower than the tights.
[04:12:36] We can go with
[04:12:36] seven.
[04:12:38] Seven!
[04:12:39] Okay.
[04:12:40] This is bad news for me.
[04:12:41] I am a ABBA spammer so the way
[04:12:43] that you guys are disgusted by this
[04:12:45] makes me very concerned. Next up
[04:12:47] is Stoked. This is
[04:12:49] for, uh, I believe Batrider.ider bat rider gains move speed and spell amp when displacing enemies
[04:12:56] sounds broken is it out of ten what's decent. Like 4 or 3?
[04:13:03] Maybe not three, let's say four.
[04:13:05] That impact was...
[04:13:07] I'm not sure if it got nerfed but...
[04:13:09] Well his other one is hidden buildings right?
[04:13:11] Yeah that would be a ten.
[04:13:13] Okay so this looks like a four or three! in buildings, right? Yeah. So... That would be a 10%. Okay.
[04:13:15] So this one's like a 4 or 3? Yeah, 4.
[04:13:17] This one's a 4. Okay.
[04:13:19] Solid. Alright, next up is the Buddha Festoration!
[04:13:21] We all know what this one does.
[04:13:24] Had some changes lately but as you know Witch Doctor
[04:13:26] can only heal himself and it doesn't damage
[04:13:28] the enemies. This was a
[04:13:30] pub nightmare a little bit ago. How's
[04:13:32] it faring now?
[04:13:34] Worse for sure.
[04:13:35] Worst?!
[04:13:36] Which DrExposh?
[04:13:37] No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[04:13:38] What do you think?
[04:13:39] It's like probably like three maybe.
[04:13:41] I don't know.
[04:13:42] I don't play with him.
[04:13:43] I played other one.
[04:13:44] I play headhunter
[04:13:48] which is wise because the damage is very good Yeah
[04:13:49] But yeah, I would think it's decent
[04:13:50] cause you know how to farm clips with it
[04:13:52] I will just go jungle so
[04:13:54] I'll put like two I will do that too damn yeah that's true yeah rank three
[04:14:01] it's still that good top three okay i like the gender good i mean, you know, carries like it, mids like it, supports.
[04:14:08] We like the damage though right?
[04:14:10] Got to farm.
[04:14:11] Sneaking farming is very important with Lich Tarka.
[04:14:14] Very, very.
[04:14:16] Okay next up is uh corrosive caustic bath excuse
[04:14:21] me for corrosive skin they're increased while he's in nether toxin for Viper.
[04:14:30] Like 9? We only put 9, it's like 10. Yes!
[04:14:32] You think this is the worst one?
[04:14:34] Not sure...
[04:14:36] Sounds really bad. Which one did we put uh
[04:14:39] uh you have eight seven four three and i do believe nine no did we no we didn't
[04:14:45] do nine let's put it now let's do a nine! Okay, so nine corrosive sk- uh caustic bath.
[04:14:51] You don't sit in nether toxin a lot guys?
[04:14:53] I've never seen anyone use this.
[04:14:56] I saw one lose with it you know, our game.
[04:15:00] Who even placed?
[04:15:06] Okay! Sorry Viper... Well, I'm not sorry Viper players.
[04:15:08] That's good to hear deserve any sadness from us.
[04:15:10] Alright, Thunderbolt! This is for Rolling Thunder for Pangolier.
[04:15:13] Rolling thunder movement and turn speed increases but duration is decreased.
[04:15:18] Very interesting. Pango, very popular hero guys.
[04:15:20] Ten.
[04:15:21] Never seen ten.
[04:15:22] Ten!
[04:15:23] This is it?
[04:15:24] Why?
[04:15:25] I've never seen anyone take this one instead of that other one.
[04:15:27] What was the other one?
[04:15:28] I forget.
[04:15:29] Double jump.
[04:15:30] Oh, the double jump oh the double job that one's that one's good damn 10.
[04:15:35] okay that's really interesting because pango was such a popular hero you really think it's
[04:15:39] that bad but other facets improved and this one i've never seen it
[04:15:42] okay all right i won't ask any questions you guys are the experts soul strike
[04:15:46] passive effect for revenge this is the one that lets her range attacks be melee attacks? Fight.
[04:15:53] It's kinda good
[04:15:55] you get more attack speed from it right
[04:15:57] the base attack time
[04:15:59] I'd say 4
[04:16:01] Four, okay 5 or four? No, four.
[04:16:05] Okay we're getting down to the wire here guys
[04:16:08] do you like uh did you play dota 1 did you guys or that's an old generation
[04:16:12] though uh you don't have it used to look in Dota 1, that's why they put it in there where the little bench goes in?
[04:16:17] It was like a bug.
[04:16:19] How did it look actually?
[04:16:20] It looked like...that! If you take the passive it looks like her model attacks the other person.
[04:16:25] She just moves and attacks them.
[04:16:27] Yeah, I think it was a bug. It was cool though!
[04:16:30] Alright, the other one for Venge...
[04:16:32] This is the Avenging Missile.
[04:16:34] Every time that you get a last hit it
[04:16:36] deals 0.75 bonus damage for every creep the enemy
[04:16:40] has last hit what's the lowest one we have yeah
[04:16:43] the lowest one the lowest one we have left. The lowest one? Come on dudes!
[04:16:48] Did you put six?
[04:16:49] You still have six available.
[04:16:51] Go six.
[04:16:52] Wow, six on that one. That's right in the middle of the pack.
[04:16:54] You guys think that's pretty good then?
[04:16:56] Why isn't that one so good
[04:17:00] it's not even that bad obviously i played some bench support with this and i don't know do you
[04:17:04] like okay do you see the difference though if you go late and you play against...
[04:17:08] And you queue someone who has a lot of last hits,
[04:17:11] of course it's going to be like 600 damage.
[04:17:12] Yeah.
[04:17:13] See, the saddest part, though,
[04:17:14] to me about that one is
[04:17:16] Lifestealer wants to get the most last hits and this Venge
[04:17:19] would counter it but you know he has innate magic resist so that's not
[04:17:24] really good. I'm not sure that's how it works.
[04:17:31] Whatever, okay and our last two guys we're getting close
[04:17:33] to number one here so I hope
[04:17:35] you get focused up
[04:17:37] Beast Mode Inner beast for Beastmaster
[04:17:40] can be activated to increase his
[04:17:42] attack speed and allow him to apply
[04:17:44] the wild axes debuff
[04:17:46] on his target. So you have one
[04:17:48] two and four right? Left.
[04:17:51] No, you already used four.
[04:17:53] You already used two.
[04:17:57] Really this is the best one out of the ones you've said so far?
[04:18:03] This is a great facet yeah really it is we're gonna see a lot of beastmaster come on he's master good yep why just because of this fashion
[04:18:08] tell me about i'm a beastmaster noob! Argon in fast, you know take some stacks get fat even if he loses lane
[04:18:15] A lot of things
[04:18:16] The Drummers of Sloan
[04:18:18] He can solo Rosh also
[04:18:19] Yeah he can solo Rosh
[04:18:20] Solo Rosh?
[04:18:21] My people don't know this Okay this is some secret information now
[04:18:25] this uh actually has worth this content piece wonderful
[04:18:28] next up is necrotic webs from broodmother reduces health region
[04:18:32] enemies in the webs this sounds good what's left
[04:18:35] uh i don't remember but no we didn't put two brilliant yeah two more then i thought you had
[04:18:41] two i'll go through this one. Yeah, this is too.
[04:18:44] Actually the list became really good with these last ones.
[04:18:47] Okay!
[04:18:48] I think we got it.
[04:18:49] You know editor?
[04:18:50] I hope they didn't pick 2.
[04:18:51] I thought they did but perhaps they didn't.
[04:18:53] Whatever number it is... There it is editor thank you so much
[04:18:56] so the broodmother is good though yeah that's pretty nice like what does it do for a new ceiling
[04:19:02] and you put it on all the links at the start and all the tangos, bottle and all of this region gets weaker.
[04:19:08] Yeah.
[04:19:09] So you can buff your other lanes.
[04:19:11] That's actually next level.
[04:19:12] You don't need to do anything Omru just put it on the other lanes and we can noise them so much
[04:19:16] so could you play support broodmother then pause five brute
[04:19:20] and go to each lane just do that what do you think bangalore it's not that good. Okay, alright well we did our best. How do you think it went overall? Are you proud of what you've done?
[04:19:32] I think it went pretty well.
[04:19:34] Yeah, I think it was a pretty good ranking.
[04:19:36] The last ones really clutched it up.
[04:19:38] All right, well fantastic.
[04:19:39] Much like you guys,
[04:19:40] clutching it towards the end
[04:19:41] so well done.
[04:19:42] Very proud of you Mouse
[04:19:43] thank you for taking time
[04:19:44] and we'll see you guys next time
[04:19:46] on some more facet rating action.
[04:19:49] Bye-bye!
[04:19:59] Just walk with me, dude.
[04:20:00] Uh?
[04:20:01] Don't do that!
[04:20:02] Don't do what?
[04:20:04] You were a professional at TI... Which TI was it?
[04:20:05] Professional what?
[04:20:07] Talent!
[04:20:07] Oh, 7th. Oh, seven.
[04:20:08] Yeah because you were a player...
[04:20:09] I guess we started the interview by the way.
[04:20:11] Yes, we did.
[04:20:12] But you're professional talent first before your professional
[04:20:14] player at TI right?
[04:20:16] I suppose that is technically true.
[04:20:17] Why won't you go outside with me?
[04:20:20] Because it's hot and I like not being hot.
[04:20:23] Can you sing the electricity by
[04:20:26] that one guy who was at every Dream League?
[04:20:28] No, I can't. It's overplayed.
[04:20:30] What about Welcome to the Black Parade by My Chemical Romance?
[04:20:33] It's not Karaoke Night either.
[04:20:35] Could you sing that song if we were doing Karaoke Night?
[04:20:37] Theoretically sure.
[04:20:38] What's your favorite song to do on karaoke night?
[04:20:44] We'll say Muggle of the Black Parade.
[04:20:45] Don't do weird noises with your mouth.
[04:20:47] It's going to have to get cut because it does things to the microphone.
[04:20:52] You're not a professional.
[04:20:53] Sorry.
[04:20:54] Okay, sing Welcome to the Black Parade with me.
[04:20:56] I'm not singing yet.
[04:20:57] When I was
[04:20:58] A young boy
[04:21:00] Nice.
[04:21:01] What happened when you were a young boy. Nice.
[04:21:02] What happened when you were a young boy?
[04:21:05] Don't! My father took me into the city. What did you see?
[04:21:08] A marching band.
[04:21:09] Okay. Sing it, dude.
[04:21:11] No. It's for content.
[04:21:12] I don't care about content.
[04:21:13] This has been an interview with Quinn.
[04:21:14] This has been quite thought-provoking.
[04:21:16] Provoked my thoughts.
[04:21:18] And back to you.
[04:21:20] Where is your team?
[04:21:23] Okay yeah, I'll go harass them. Thank you.
[04:21:25] Tofu, celery whoever that was.
[04:21:28] This is Jenkins Dota and I am here behind the scenes at the Esports World Cup, Dota 2 Riyadh Masters.
[04:21:39] And we're gonna go check out Game and Gladiators, the best team in the world.
[04:21:45] Sorry, best team in the world. Sorry, best
[04:21:45] team in the world?
[04:21:48] Can I show you some videos and
[04:21:49] give your reaction to them?
[04:21:52] Uh, okay.
[04:21:53] That's good. Okay, so this one is a TikTok song.
[04:21:58] Do you know TikTok?
[04:22:00] Yeah.
[04:22:01] Yeah big...
[04:22:02] It's a cute vibe.
[04:22:05] Can you not interrupt the video?
[04:22:07] Okay, sorry bro. I just thought you wanted me to talk since it's in my...
[04:22:10] No, it's kidding. I'm just trying to watch.
[04:22:13] Well, as they mic it, we're not supposed to talk.
[04:22:17] That was a 45second clip of that.
[04:22:19] It's 10 minutes long though.
[04:22:20] I'll send you if can I get your Discord?
[04:22:24] You're going to spam me?
[04:22:25] I'm not.
[04:22:25] I might send you an invite to a Counter-Strike tournament.
[04:22:28] Okay then, I'm pretty good at Counter-Strike.
[04:22:31] You like win free Arcanas?
[04:22:33] So I suppose.
[04:22:35] Do you like TikTok?
[04:22:37] Uh... nah it's uh, it's a bit too time consuming. Do you like TikTok?
[04:22:38] Nah.
[04:22:40] It's a bit too time consuming.
[04:22:41] Don't have time for that.
[04:22:45] Do you try to stay off of social media because you think it's a waste of time?
[04:22:46] Exactly.
[04:22:48] I think playing Dota
[04:22:49] might be worse than going on
[04:22:51] TikTok. Ladies and gentlemen, this has
[04:22:53] been JenkinsDota in behind the scenes with GameGladiers
[04:22:56] and with...
[04:23:01] Thanks for checking us out. Yeah, we're doing an interview now I guess.
[04:23:05] Okay.
[04:23:06] He just turned it on.
[04:23:07] I don't know he's following me turning it on.
[04:23:08] You got any questions for me?
[04:23:09] Or should I ask you something? He just followed me turning it on. You got any questions for me?
[04:23:10] Or should we ask you something?
[04:23:11] You can ask me questions!
[04:23:12] What is your outfit today?
[04:23:14] I'm going for like a...
[04:23:16] They might censor this because of copyright
[04:23:18] but Criminal Minds
[04:23:19] Do you know the guy from Criminal Minds?
[04:23:21] Yeah Which one? Copyright, but Criminal Minds. You know the guy from criminal minds? Yeah
[04:23:23] Which one you don't know? Do you do that normally we're like somebody brings up a thing and usually want to continue the conversation
[04:23:27] So you say you know the thing just so they continue
[04:23:29] But then I ask about it
[04:23:30] And then you're like I shouldn't have committed
[04:23:32] to that.
[04:23:33] No not really if I don't know at all like ask more about it.
[04:23:36] Because your high risk because somebody asked me about Shrek the other day and I didn't
[04:23:39] know what it was and they bring up this, there's apparently a donkey in it.
[04:23:42] You don't know Shrek?
[04:23:44] Not personally. Well, I do.
[04:23:47] He's not really... You don't even know the movie?
[04:23:49] Do you know Shrek personally?
[04:23:50] I do, yeah.
[04:23:52] I think that's Mike Myers.
[04:23:54] Yeah.
[04:23:55] Which was also a killer in...
[04:23:57] I don't know Mike Myers though.
[04:23:58] ...in Halloween.
[04:23:59] I don't know Mike Myers.
[04:24:00] You know Shrek personally?
[04:24:01] I only know Shrek personally.
[04:24:02] Why are you slowly moving away from me
[04:24:04] i don't know man it's getting weird
[04:24:11] i guess uh someone switched with me?
[04:24:16] Do you have any question or it's just like, me pouring my feelings out.
[04:24:18] Do you write poetry?
[04:24:19] You look like the type of guy that writes poetry.
[04:24:21] Not recently no and probably also not before then
[04:24:24] No, I haven't really gotten into it at all actually.
[04:24:28] That's a really good response!
[04:24:29] That's like very you response.
[04:24:31] Yes.
[04:24:33] What is the most heartbreak that
[04:24:34] you've ever felt in your life?
[04:24:38] It's deep, real quick I guess.
[04:24:43] Not sure bro.
[04:24:45] It's hard to come up with that stuff on the spot in front of other people
[04:24:50] Do you think pain adds depth to people?
[04:24:54] Yeah, I mean probably for sure.
[04:24:58] But it's also when you go through stuff
[04:25:01] then you can relate easier to others
[04:25:03] and be more empathetic
[04:25:05] like feeling with them.
[04:25:07] And vulnerability is one of the best ways to deepen your friendships
[04:25:10] and relationships, right?
[04:25:13] I guess that's an easy way to open up.
[04:25:16] Easy so to say but like to connect with others and open up, easy so to say but like to connect with others and
[04:25:19] open up and get to know
[04:25:21] other people better or letting
[04:25:23] other people get to know you better
[04:25:27] I appreciate the insight. Thank you for sharing
[04:25:31] This has been janks over behind-the-scenes
[04:25:46] Alright, go to another thrilling edition of Facet Blind Ranking. I am here with heroic best in the world here we got analog and kj how you doing jim's hello guys
[04:25:57] three times today i know who you are analog areog. Are you worried about this?
[04:26:00] Yeah, people have to know, you know.
[04:26:03] Every time they say Analog KJ, the Brazilians...
[04:26:06] Just so we don't be the same, you know.
[04:26:08] I am Analog! That is Analog!
[04:26:16] Today will be like you no thank you i hope not getting more adult ears
[04:26:21] and I'll be like you.
[04:26:23] Oh, thank you!
[04:26:23] I hope not.
[04:26:24] Don't play...
[04:26:25] don't end up
[04:26:26] like me my friend.
[04:26:27] Enjoy the hair
[04:26:27] while you have it.
[04:26:28] Let's play our game
[04:26:29] here today.
[04:26:29] I'm going to give
[04:26:30] you guys facets
[04:26:31] that you're going
[04:26:31] to rank them
[04:26:32] from 1-10,
[04:26:33] one being the best and 10 being the worst.
[04:26:35] The trick is that I'll only be giving you one at a time.
[04:26:37] Are you familiar with facets?
[04:26:39] Have you memorized all of it like good players?
[04:26:41] Yeah, I think we work with that.
[04:26:44] I think we know some of them.
[04:26:46] Part of our job.
[04:26:48] Alright, fantastic! Well let us begin then
[04:26:49] with our first one.
[04:26:51] Quick wit!
[04:26:53] No, I'm going to test combat on you.
[04:26:56] Quick wit, Darkseer's passive he gains attack speed as he gets more intelligence.
[04:27:02] This is your first facet, You must rank it 1 through 10.
[04:27:04] I know my offlaner always takes this facet, so I would say it's a...
[04:27:09] Oh wait! It's just the facet because what makes it broken
[04:27:11] is the facet plus the innate.
[04:27:14] So it's just the facet, you know?
[04:27:16] Assume the innate is good as well
[04:27:18] I don't know if Dax is innate
[04:27:20] but...I think his facet
[04:27:22] is good! Like, I would think
[04:27:24] 6. Huh?
[04:27:26] Yeah!
[04:27:27] What do you mean?
[04:27:28] One is the best, right?
[04:27:29] One is the best, yes.
[04:27:31] It's like three.
[04:27:33] If you count the innate together...
[04:27:35] Okay one is the best one okay I got it.
[04:27:36] We have to decide that so we're counting in eight together?
[04:27:38] Yes!
[04:27:39] Of course.
[04:27:40] So there's a two thing.
[04:27:42] Yeah for sure.
[04:27:44] It's like two if you count them together.
[04:27:46] Two or three? I'll say four. You can have three then.
[04:27:48] No, you can't have three! You're a team!
[04:27:52] We have one. Not you, not me.
[04:27:54] It got nerfed.
[04:27:59] It did get nerfed.
[04:28:01] Okay, four.
[04:28:05] That's pretty high but okay, four it is!
[04:28:07] Alright very good. So you guys don't have a lot of Darkseer experience then
[04:28:11] as I heard from this discussion?
[04:28:12] No we have.
[04:28:13] It's every game, every game banner pick so.
[04:28:15] Oh okay well all right, very well.
[04:28:17] So next up is One Man Army, this is from Axe.
[04:28:20] You know, axe gains strength based on his armor as long
[04:28:23] as he's away from his allies.
[04:28:24] Nine. Super nerfed.
[04:28:26] Yeah super nerfed.
[04:28:28] Nine?
[04:28:30] Alright it's nine.
[04:28:31] All right.
[04:28:34] It's a nice one as well because... Can I choose one?
[04:28:34] Because you chose the other one.
[04:28:36] Yeah, I'll go for nine.
[04:28:38] Okay, nine it is.
[04:28:39] All right.
[04:28:39] So this one is... You just don't get this one because
[04:28:40] it's way too nerfed now?
[04:28:41] Is that accurate?
[04:28:43] We were doing the combo with A-Nate and he was not
[04:28:46] that strong anymore after he got nerfed.
[04:28:48] Sure, sure we were seeing that in almost every game.
[04:28:50] Did you guys enjoy the axe time did you see any of Sure, sure. We were seeing that in almost every game.
[04:28:51] Did you guys enjoy the axe time?
[04:28:53] Did you spam any of that on your pubs and try any of it?
[04:28:55] I just played my role but we...
[04:28:57] I just play mid when the Manta works
[04:29:00] Oh my god those were good to know your attack was no it wasn't very
[04:29:04] that's not a good time defense x was when you buy two stout shields in dota one holy
[04:29:09] shit and then you go through vanguard this double stealth shield, that was nasty stuff.
[04:29:13] That's only for the bald guys in the chat there so yeah, for sure.
[04:29:17] Okay next up is Enchantress' Spellbound and cast range of enchant
[04:29:22] is increased if the enemy as a hero
[04:29:25] Enchantress has increased attack range against that target. You're the enchant
[04:29:29] expert I live for you, I just trust you enough to say the
[04:29:33] number or trust you. Damn! Another even say the number and I'll trust you.
[04:29:34] Damn!
[04:29:35] Another even contested.
[04:29:36] How good is this one?
[04:29:38] If we count the unit together...
[04:29:41] Why do you keep saying that?
[04:29:42] You have to count the innate.
[04:29:43] You don't get to deselect the innate.
[04:29:44] This was like an ability draft of fast you can put on here...
[04:29:48] How good are they in the world of Dota? Against each other?
[04:29:54] Nine! Nine?! This is nine?! I don't know. I'm not sure.
[04:29:56] Nine, nine. Nine?
[04:29:57] This is nine?
[04:29:58] Wait, the Axe wasn't nine, the Axe?
[04:30:00] No, the Axe was eight.
[04:30:02] The Axe was eight, yeah.
[04:30:04] Ah, it was eight.
[04:30:07] I hope there's no worse ones, you know? Otherwise we don't have slots for them.
[04:30:12] Actually, we want enchantments and then they ban my enchantment because they think I only play with hero.
[04:30:15] Okay so this one is going for 9.
[04:30:16] Nine it is.
[04:30:17] Okay, full trust.
[04:30:18] Is that something?
[04:30:19] Yeah, I love him in contesting.
[04:30:20] He's the inch expert.
[04:30:21] Everyone bends it otherwise you're gonna lose even with the nine faces.
[04:30:27] Damn! Even as an expert, how do you think about her in 8?
[04:30:31] What do you think about that one?
[04:30:32] The double neutral item.
[04:30:34] Is that a meme or is that actually good?
[04:30:37] It's kind of mean, but in theory I think what the big brains of Dota thought was like
[04:30:43] you get the team super fast because you farm jungle and then your team gets super fast
[04:30:48] cause H is usually for tempo right sure
[04:30:49] we're gonna play fast so if you get faster neutral items for everyone in theory you're going to have
[04:30:55] a power spike for like the eight minute room at seven you get lots of 8-mail tritons
[04:31:01] and if you're good,
[04:31:01] you can catch them in the air.
[04:31:03] You know that?
[04:31:03] What?!
[04:31:04] So you can catch it in the air!
[04:31:05] Yeah, when I have one
[04:31:06] it goes to base
[04:31:07] other one right?
[04:31:07] Yeah yeah
[04:31:08] But if you are fast enough
[04:31:09] we can catch them in there so you can give to your mate other one, right? Yeah. But if you're fast enough
[04:31:10] we can catch them in the air
[04:31:11] so it gives to your mid.
[04:31:12] Oh!
[04:31:13] So you like put yours
[04:31:14] on your backpack slot
[04:31:15] then catch it while
[04:31:16] it's in midair?
[04:31:17] No, just catch
[04:31:18] the other one
[04:31:19] and go for a backpack.
[04:31:20] That's some crazy-ass meta.
[04:31:20] Okay, got it.
[04:31:21] All right, speaking of catching things in the air, this is Leeching Leash.
[04:31:24] This one pounce applies to sacks of essence shift when striking enemy heroes.
[04:31:29] So you get this for Slark,
[04:31:33] you pounce and you get an essence stack.
[04:31:36] I don't even know that was a face-off.
[04:31:37] Yeah me neither,
[04:31:38] this is my first time what the hell is this?
[04:31:39] That sounds wild!
[04:31:41] I didn't even know the order, just know the Barracuda
[04:31:43] Yeah there's a
[04:31:45] Barracuda one. The Barracuda that's right
[04:31:47] Well this is not Barraco- so this
[04:31:49] No but the Barracuda is in eighth
[04:31:51] It's not the other person's...
[04:31:52] Alright, I don't even remember it exists honestly.
[04:31:56] Okay so where are we putting it? 9 and 8 has already taken...
[04:31:59] 7.
[04:32:00] Yeah 7, not that bad.
[04:32:01] It has to be 7!
[04:32:04] 7?! I mean... Yeah, 7. Not that bad. It has to be 7! 7? Okay.
[04:32:06] You think this is better than Axe?
[04:32:08] No it's 7 or 10.
[04:32:10] The Barracuda is OP.
[04:32:12] But that's not the Barracuda. That is NOT the Barracuda!
[04:32:14] Oh, it is in 8?
[04:32:15] It is right?
[04:32:18] You work with this game, you have to know.
[04:32:20] I understand no one else in this game has ever talked about a Nate's.
[04:32:23] This is all your talking about. This is all you're talking about!
[04:32:25] It is fast, it is a fast game!
[04:32:29] What the f***?
[04:32:31] Okay, seven is good.
[04:32:33] Oh, it's ten. No, I think it's 10 actually. Pulse and get the edge.
[04:32:37] No pulse and get the edge is a good thing. I think probably people will get this one.
[04:32:41] That's true. So it's 7.
[04:32:43] Okay sounds good!
[04:32:45] Okay going sounds good.
[04:32:47] Okay, going on to the next one. Unbreakable! This one is for Lone Druid.
[04:32:51] The spirit lake only damaged by Spirit Bearer heals Lone Druid
[04:32:56] and Lone Druids morph his Spirit Bearer into an enraged form that gains bonus armor, cooldown 75% on Entain Queen Claws.
[04:33:04] We don't have a Lone Druid expert...
[04:33:06] But we had one... We had one.
[04:33:10] Last year our offlaner
[04:33:12] he played like 25 pubs of
[04:33:14] Lundrid and didn't lose a single
[04:33:16] one when we were playing TI
[04:33:19] so he managed to not play Laundry that single game
[04:33:22] because everyone banned it.
[04:33:23] That's fantastic!
[04:33:25] Yeah, so what I remember from it
[04:33:27] and from his words in the new laundry is that here's garbage.
[04:33:31] Okay.
[04:33:32] So, I'm betting for a 10 more than a 6.
[04:33:35] Wow!
[04:33:36] It's 10, it's 10 for sure.
[04:33:37] This is a 10?
[04:33:38] This is the worst one?
[04:33:39] Okay.
[04:33:40] Yeah, that's unfortunate.
[04:33:41] Are you guys sad you don't see Lone Druid these days?
[04:33:43] You like Lone Druid?
[04:33:45] I like it but not that much.
[04:33:50] All right next up is rewards and rewards. But... Not that much.
[04:33:53] Alright, next up is Rewards of Ruin
[04:33:57] This is an innate I think or is this a fossil?
[04:34:02] Pugna receives 1.5 spell amp per destroyed enemy tower
[04:34:11] they save the trash ones for last now damn spell amp per tower.
[04:34:14] That's good for our Pokemon, man. Kappa.
[04:34:16] It's not good!
[04:34:18] But we don't have more...
[04:34:20] Top 11.
[04:34:22] Alright guys, where are we putting it?
[04:34:23] The lowest you can go now I believe would be 6.
[04:34:28] Yeah, for a Pokemon meet is very fine.
[04:34:31] Very fine!
[04:34:32] So yeah, six is fine. Very good, isn't it? So yeah six is fine. That was good.
[04:34:33] Six is fine.
[04:34:35] It's way better than the one man army for mex here.
[04:34:39] Oh the one man army that is true okay okay. Sounds good.
[04:34:43] Let's put that in there then.
[04:34:44] Jesus, that's so bad.
[04:34:45] What do you mean it's bad?
[04:34:46] It's too damp for towers.
[04:34:48] I think it's 1.5.
[04:34:49] 1.5!
[04:34:50] Jesus...
[04:34:51] That's strong, no?
[04:34:52] Okay.
[04:34:53] If we take three towers which we can certainly do as Pugna...
[04:34:56] It's like a Kaya. How much time is the Kaya?
[04:34:58] I think it's eight.
[04:35:00] Basically a Kaya!
[04:35:01] It's a Kaya after three towers.
[04:35:03] That's pretty good.
[04:35:05] If the Pugna was pause 1, he would not get this
[04:35:07] in any way. He'd get a...
[04:35:09] Alright next up, Frostbound
[04:35:11] Chainfrost lingers on
[04:35:13] its target if it fails to bounce can bounce again the new
[04:35:17] target is available this one is OP. really?
[04:35:20] This one is OP! Okay, what's your rank of that?
[04:35:24] It's like 2.
[04:35:29] The here itself may not be that good, but the facet... Just the facet is good.
[04:35:31] Okay we don't have a 1 yet, we don't have a 3.
[04:35:35] So this is a solid two?
[04:35:39] It's coming out of face it. No but this one is good.
[04:35:40] I think that two is fine even the here not being that good.
[04:35:44] Okay, that's two!
[04:35:45] The next one gonna be like super trash one like down breaker
[04:35:51] something like this we'll talk about the next one the next one is lunar orbit
[04:35:54] moon glaives rotate and provide damage reductions while active on Luna.
[04:35:59] That's good, that's not the shard?
[04:36:02] No.
[04:36:03] I don't know what the shard is.
[04:36:06] You were grilling me about not knowing **** You don't know Luna, Shard?
[04:36:08] I'm support!
[04:36:10] You have to know everything you work at the game.
[04:36:12] That's true that's true.
[04:36:13] So where are we putting this one Lunar Orbit guys?
[04:36:16] It's 4 or 5.
[04:36:18] Not that bad. It's good for 5. I'm not sure...
[04:36:19] It's good for Luna jungle, so...
[04:36:22] Oh, I don't know. I'm down for...
[04:36:24] I'm down for five.
[04:36:25] I never see the zero in...
[04:36:27] Five is fine.
[04:36:28] Five is fine?
[04:36:29] Since the faces come i never saw zero again
[04:36:32] okay all right you think we're ever gonna get support so so so so so so A very good evening to everyone.
[04:37:48] You are watching Riyadh Masters and today we are crowning our champion here at the Esports World Cup live from the Kidia Arena.
[04:37:58] Before we get to our grand finals though, I want to just recap
[04:38:02] The last three weeks that we've had and to do that I have a wonderful panel with me.
[04:38:08] Kezu, how are you feeling?
[04:38:10] Oh, I'm feeling good! You know there's a lot of Dota that has been played
[04:38:12] more than will be played today
[04:38:14] And you know a lot of dreams that will be shattered
[04:38:16] but you always think the losers get the winners and you know a lot of dreams that will be shattered but there's we
[04:38:16] you know you always need to lose us to get the winner so i'm excited
[04:38:20] afi welcome back on the panel okay are you ready for our grand finals
[04:38:24] i'm very excited you know i am here while while our boy BSJ is doing something very exciting.
[04:38:30] Secret?
[04:38:31] Secret and exciting but always looking forward to some action-packed Dota issues.
[04:38:36] Yeah! And we've had a lot of action packedpacked dota already fair i want to take you back
[04:38:40] to the plains it was a long time ago there were a lot of teams that had a lot of hopes
[04:38:45] and dreams there was and a couple them came of that Plains looking pretty good as well.
[04:38:50] But unfortunately some had to go home so it's just like the group stage.
[04:38:54] So yeah I think I believe which team was doing the best?
[04:38:58] Entity were doing really well.
[04:39:00] Yeah, Entity was the one that was really crushing it through
[04:39:02] the Plains. They got pretty far but unfortunately
[04:39:04] none of the playing teams did reach you
[04:39:06] to the final day which is
[04:39:08] kind of how it goes. You are on the planes for a reason. No
[04:39:11] big upsets? No big upsets. I
[04:39:13] think when I think about the play-ins
[04:39:15] and the road of some teams
[04:39:16] the ones that stand out for me
[04:39:18] is Niles not making it
[04:39:20] out of the play-ins
[04:39:21] and LGD making it a
[04:39:23] lot further, Kezer,
[04:39:24] than I thought.
[04:39:25] I mean, LGD just
[04:39:26] kind of had the power
[04:39:26] up here.
[04:39:27] You always have the
[04:39:28] teams that progress
[04:39:29] a lot throughout
[04:39:29] this tournament,
[04:39:30] which is also...
[04:39:31] Even the teams that lost in the tournament, which is also even the teams
[04:39:31] that lost in this tournament.
[04:39:32] Honestly, they're still here like in spirit
[04:39:35] because the meta that develops
[04:39:36] in these tournaments
[04:39:36] is from all the teams playing
[04:39:38] and losing and helping each other.
[04:39:39] So you know,
[04:39:40] you always have to lose it
[04:39:41] but they're still here today. Yeah, you know, you always have the losers
[04:39:42] but they're still here today.
[04:39:43] Yeah I mean there's
[04:39:44] always the teams that excel
[04:39:45] in situations where
[04:39:46] you don't expect them to
[04:39:47] we already talked about
[04:39:48] Entity from the play-ins
[04:39:49] but there was also Blacklist
[04:39:50] and Heroic who fell off
[04:39:51] really hard by the time the group stages. We had Falcons going 0 and 4 on the first day, then
[04:39:52] crushing all of the other
[04:39:53] days. We had teams that
[04:39:54] we expected to get topped
[04:39:55] at the bottom and vice
[04:39:56] versa so a lot of
[04:39:57] interesting things went
[04:39:58] on this entire tournament
[04:39:59] for us.
[04:40:00] The team is really
[04:40:01] strong. They're very
[04:40:02] competitive. They have great players in their team. teams that we expected to get topped at the bottom and vice versa. So a lot of interesting
[04:40:04] things went on with this entire tournament.
[04:40:06] I forgot to mention PSG Quest was in the playoffs
[04:40:08] and they did way better than all the other
[04:40:10] teams you mentioned, so sad
[04:40:12] to leave them out but they far exceeded most people's expectations yeah
[04:40:15] no i was going to mention that don't worry we were not going to forget that because
[04:40:18] I think for PSE Quest, they probably left the most lasting impact of all
[04:40:23] the teams other than you you know, the final three
[04:40:25] teams that people were expecting to do well.
[04:40:27] But PSG Quest is going home with
[04:40:29] a lot more fans and people rooting
[04:40:31] for them in the future. Yeah, I mean, them being
[04:40:33] Spirit alone was just like, okay okay this team is the real deal.
[04:40:36] They're beating the Goliaths of land Team Spirit and then they went on three games with Falcons so that was super impressive.
[04:40:43] Incredibly impressive! We also had OG that didn't do
[04:40:47] as good as some other people were expecting
[04:40:49] and now people are speculating
[04:40:50] is Seb going for another retirement
[04:40:53] not being a family man at all? We had a great
[04:40:55] skit about that. Actually, we've had fantastic uh skits
[04:40:58] and little videos about that and that is all thanks to our content team that is very hard at
[04:41:03] work always i can't believe ideas continue Content ideas, content ideas.
[04:41:09] Okay.
[04:41:10] Oh!
[04:41:11] Okay I got it.
[04:41:12] Arteezy has a sleep paralysis demon shadow theme huh?
[04:41:18] Okay alright too obvious sure. theme and shadow theme, huh? Okay.
[04:41:18] Alright. Too obvious. Sure.
[04:41:21] Oh! Dota 2 award show!
[04:41:23] Dota 2's been around for like
[04:41:24] 18 years. How come we don't have an award show?
[04:41:26] Perfect! Come on bro! That's actually a good one! For on bro that's actually a good one it's not a good
[04:41:30] one think about it actually think about it imagine what a dota 2 awardshow would actually look like.
[04:41:43] Thank you, everyone.
[04:41:47] Welcome back to the Dota 2 Defense of the Awards show for the video game Dota 2,
[04:41:51] Defense of the Ancients.
[04:41:56] We are here now to announce the winner but before we get into that
[04:41:59] let me remind you one more time of your nominees.
[04:42:15] Fear! 23 Savage, Fy and ATF. And the award for most excited victory celebration goes to... Fear!
[04:42:18] Come on up here, Fear.
[04:42:19] Come get your award, buddy.
[04:42:22] Excuse me. come get your award, buddy! Uh...
[04:42:23] Where is it?
[04:42:24] Hello? Here?
[04:42:27] Oh.
[04:42:28] He's gone. Okay.
[04:42:31] Oh! This is a huge one!
[04:42:33] Let us now begin
[04:42:35] our induction into the Hall of Fame.
[04:42:37] This one is for those Dota players
[04:42:39] that have been around so long but are still here
[04:42:41] and kicking butt today.
[04:42:44] Ladies and gentlemen, you know him,
[04:42:46] you love them please welcome Puppy.
[04:42:52] Oh he's not here okay That's okay because there are plenty of other good old players to be inducted in his stead.
[04:43:00] Ladies and gentlemen put your hands together for Kuroki.
[04:43:04] The Hall of Fame inductee is sue male oh it's miracle okay
[04:43:10] mind control he's actually good he's's not here, I thought...
[04:43:16] Great!
[04:43:17] And best seating position,
[04:43:19] Boxy 33
[04:43:23] Ramsey and Blitz
[04:43:27] And now it is time for a crowd favorite, we have team fight of the year!
[04:43:29] Your first nominee
[04:43:31] is gonna be Heroic
[04:43:33] versus Gaming Gladiators at ESO
[04:43:35] One Birmingham. Next up BB Team vs gladiators at esl one birmingham next up bb team verse the tormentor
[04:43:40] at esr1 kuala lumpur you know this one it's boxy's lion stun at esl One Kuala Lumpur.
[04:43:49] And Gabi and Abed at the Blocklist International Teamhouse
[04:43:54] And the winner is...
[04:43:57] Of course, boxes lion stud'S LION STUNN!
[04:43:59] And he is a one-tunnel on four!
[04:44:01] Look at that stun! Unbelievable!
[04:44:10] What do you have? Ha ha! Put your hands together.
[04:44:14] And you're final category of the night, thank goodness
[04:44:18] is gonna be
[04:44:20] least retired player of the year. Your nominees are
[04:44:24] Chris Ame!
[04:44:28] Oh! Get Ame!
[04:44:33] Get Ame's name out of your f***ing mouth.
[04:44:37] Hey, do you have something that...you wanna say about Ame?
[04:44:40] You want to give me a hug. What are you doing up here?
[04:44:42] Oh!
[04:44:45] So, sleep paralysis demon?
[04:44:47] Yeah, yeah, sleep paralysis demon.
[04:44:48] Okay, let's go.
[04:44:57] 007 Every time it cracks me up, Kezu. There's just so much like originality
[04:44:59] to come up with these things.
[04:45:00] Flax and whoever else is behind these,
[04:45:03] they're just S tier.
[04:45:04] And working all the little nudges of memes
[04:45:07] not just Dota 2 related but...
[04:45:09] Yeah, and also that all these players are here
[04:45:10] for all these bits.
[04:45:12] All of them. All of them. All of them? that all these players are here like all these bits awesome
[04:45:18] no it's uh it's been fantastic watching everything it's gonna be fantastic watching the grand finals as well so it is time to start talking about our grand finals.
[04:45:46] It's game and road for us, since the group stage we played many games but in some games we struggle a lot we find out how we want to play and this is probably the reason like why we are here right
[04:45:52] now they just keep on going they just keep pushing forward even at half HP.
[04:46:03] This event could easily be the biggest event of the year for us.
[04:46:07] I think the journey for us to get to this point has been a bit of a mix of up and downs.
[04:46:12] In two months they have to use the arena, try and bail him out, push back with the
[04:46:15] God's Rebuke 33 runs him down all the way to the mountain
[04:46:17] in a power shot to finish him off!
[04:46:22] We didn't feel like we win or lose but
[04:46:24] they were feeling that we went to the finals
[04:46:26] almost 100%.
[04:46:28] Everyone is really confident and everyone is ready to own.
[04:46:32] Just hoping he has the damage to finish off Roshan, it's not even close!
[04:46:35] Meanwhile Omar is going for the kill on the Brewmaster
[04:46:38] This guy is gonna get off his old plan...
[04:46:40] Actually look at the corner! They just call it!
[04:46:42] It's done! They're out!
[04:46:43] Falcons know they can't beat gaming gladiators
[04:46:46] whenever they hit their peak.
[04:46:49] You learn to adapt and overcome struggles,
[04:46:52] we've come so close so many times
[04:46:54] and winning would mean everything.
[04:46:57] They drew it back for all of that
[04:47:19] and got nothing out of the two eyes on their chaos right oh my I think Team Liquid, for some reason, I don't know how it works but they had some issues
[04:47:21] and struggled a lot in the grand Finals so you can feel it in the game.
[04:47:23] So I hope we won't also be mentioned about struggling a lot.
[04:47:27] I think even if you're out of your league, all is as strong with me
[04:47:29] for the UGS along in the tournament and beating them
[04:47:32] in grand finals I feel like would be icing on the cake. Got a little bit exposed going up against
[04:47:36] gladiators but now we're back and they cannot wait for the people so i think coming into this
[04:47:41] we are more prepared I don't know, we always beat them in the finals.
[04:47:57] And I think they're scared of us.
[04:47:59] We win 3-0, 20 minutes, 30 minutes match.
[04:48:22] Cannot wait for the der to truly is a beaker as we look at the jamil motorsport player arrival of our grand finalists here at this Real Masters.
[04:48:24] It is good to remember that there
[04:48:26] is no beef between these players,
[04:48:29] but we do like to play it up a little bit.
[04:48:31] I love how confident Tarascio was in that interview, Effie?
[04:48:36] I love to hear it.
[04:48:37] I love to hear it.
[04:48:38] I mean this is the El Clasico
[04:48:41] you can't change
[04:48:42] the script
[04:48:43] It seems like
[04:48:44] You know
[04:48:44] you can have a filler season,
[04:48:46] maybe Falcons with the filler season of Dota 2.
[04:48:49] But we are back to what we've been seeing
[04:48:52] in the end bones of the last competitive year
[04:48:53] which is just game versus Liquid Grand Finals. and it has uh not been ending well for team
[04:48:59] like this will be the second no sorry the six grand finals they go up against each other
[04:49:04] uh which is a lot of grand finals, but not a single one.
[04:49:09] Well, the five before this,
[04:49:11] not a single one was taken by Team Liquid and Fear.
[04:49:13] We got some stats to look at regarding grand finals appearances.
[04:49:17] And not this one. This one is a little bit ahead of its time.
[04:49:20] Yeah, this is mine should I just roll with it?
[04:49:22] Yeah go roll with it!
[04:49:23] Because we have gaming that
[04:49:24] we know how good they are
[04:49:25] They expose Liquid
[04:49:26] like you also heard in the video
[04:49:27] and these are some of the heroes
[04:49:28] that they play You have the CK you have the Chimera exposed Liquid like we also just heard in the video and this is just some of
[04:49:28] the heroes that they play you have the CK, you have the Chen, the
[04:49:31] Brew and the Weaver what do all these heroes do? They play aggressive. They have
[04:49:34] good lanes, they're gonna stomp you if they get ahead they're gonna
[04:49:36] end the game fast they're going to take roles build auras. These are their recent
[04:49:39] game times in their last two matches against the best teams in the tournament
[04:49:43] 33 minutes, 33 minute 28 minutes and 29 minutes so I think if you're Liquid
[04:49:48] looking at this obviously they lost very hard.
[04:49:50] They know how to adapt because they had a big drafting issue in their series.
[04:49:55] So looking at this, I hope that they adapt but
[04:49:57] they already showed some better stuff against Falcons in the series just now.
[04:50:00] They really did,
[04:50:00] The question is will they survive those first 20 minutes?
[04:50:03] We're gonna find out because as we can see
[04:50:05] in the records and this time
[04:50:07] that she said I wanted to share with you
[04:50:10] This is Grand Finals appearances and victories of all the players.
[04:50:16] We must remember that for the RACI TOEFLIN CELERY,
[04:50:20] This was all last year, they have done fantastic
[04:50:22] but these are high numbers
[04:50:24] Yeah, they definitely are, especially Ace
[04:50:26] I didn't really expect that one
[04:50:28] Ninjas in Pajamas
[04:50:30] All he does is win there and whenever Gaming Glider gets to Grand Finals all he does is win there and whenever Gaming Gladiators get into the Grand Finals
[04:50:34] All they do is win as well. If Liquid's on an enemy team at least but we'll have to see in this one
[04:50:39] We'll be able to bring it back and we're going to see the opposite here where we have just a couple
[04:50:45] but no nisha on his probably days of secret yeah most of those right and then you've got
[04:50:50] a couple there on 33 with tundra i believe believe. But not yet with Liquid.
[04:50:55] No and just as a reminder
[04:50:57] the one finals that Boxy
[04:50:59] Insania and Mikkei
[04:51:01] won was in 2019
[04:51:03] when they were still Alliance and it was the Summit.
[04:51:07] And that is a very long time ago, especially considering since then
[04:51:11] they have changed rosters quite a bit
[04:51:12] and they've had some of the best players
[04:51:14] and the world is also on their roster as well.
[04:51:16] And it is about time, no?
[04:51:18] It is. They have to be so hungry
[04:51:20] for this win because not only
[04:51:22] would it be finally a grand
[04:51:24] finals win for these players but revenge against gaming gladiators who basically
[04:51:28] dragged them down the entirety of the last year i do wonder though how confident they are going up
[04:51:33] into it after you beat the lower bracket team to go into Grand Finals, that does have
[04:51:38] to feel good because it was Falcons! Falcons won everything this year and they stomped them. It
[04:51:44] wasn't even close so I was one of the cleanest 2-0s that I've seen in this tournament.
[04:51:48] And that's got to be something that gives you confidence
[04:51:51] in a way nothing else does, because a lot of people had Hawkins
[04:51:54] as the winner of this tournament.
[04:51:56] Yeah and I believe you were also here this morning
[04:51:58] when the stat was shared, Effie
[04:52:00] that...
[04:52:02] Of all the Grand Finals this year
[04:52:04] only once has the upper bracket team won
[04:52:07] The rest is all lower bracket teams
[04:52:11] You can't underestimate that lower bracket moment that's crazy i was not aware of that that is a pretty spicy this year 2024 specifically probably
[04:52:16] different story from last years yeah what Yeah, what am I doing so?
[04:52:20] But it's something else as well that they can try to take away.
[04:52:22] They beat Gaming Gliders last year at Riot.
[04:52:24] It was one of the few times where they did actually smack them
[04:52:27] and played very well against them.
[04:52:29] So that is like something you can take
[04:52:31] of course you can take the series you played the other day
[04:52:33] where you lost to them to try and adapt
[04:52:35] And the momentum from this morning
[04:52:37] I feel out of all the grand finals they've played
[04:52:39] I believe in Liquid today to not get 3-0 storm, but show us like a very competitive series and who knows maybe even win.
[04:52:44] I am slightly concerned because Falcons did not look like themselves today
[04:52:49] They were playing too slow they're playing disjointed from each other and it felt like the the game. I think it was a really good matchup for them
[04:52:52] because they were playing
[04:52:54] themselves today, They were
[04:52:56] playing disjointed from each
[04:52:58] other and it felt like the
[04:53:00] fundamentals of theirs were shaken up after their series anything from Likud's victory because it was clean. They did everything almost perfectly,
[04:53:03] but the way that they lost to Gaiman yesterday
[04:53:05] —they lost to Chen and Enchantress—
[04:53:07] they lost because they picked Razor in a game
[04:53:09] where Razor wasn't good cause their carry pool is limited
[04:53:11] Those problems... they still have to exist
[04:53:13] Cuzzurr. Yeah I think it's like also
[04:53:15] especially that but there are other stuff
[04:53:17] I really dislike some of the
[04:53:19] Ember Pig... When you pick a hero
[04:53:21] close the phase and ban two two heroes and then still something like
[04:53:24] the Dazzle comes out which makes it unplayable.
[04:53:26] It means that your pick on 18 was illegal
[04:53:28] because no matter what great heroes
[04:53:30] you banned, you're still getting stomped? There's an issue there.
[04:53:32] There is an issue there. Fear I an issue there, Fjr. I want to focus a little bit more on the matchups
[04:53:35] and maybe if you want to take it to the draft
[04:53:37] that's fine as well but
[04:53:38] I wanna talk about the support difference
[04:53:40] we talked a lot about
[04:53:41] tempo of play
[04:53:42] and often times
[04:53:43] that comes down to
[04:53:44] sport play Yeah, mean it definitely can
[04:53:46] and i think for right now we're talking a lot about liquid and what they need to improve
[04:53:49] but because they're going against the goliaths right now this game in gladiators they haven't
[04:53:52] had a single game in the playoffs that went to 40 minutes.
[04:53:55] So speed is going to be the name of the game.
[04:53:57] Celery, he's been playing a lot of fast tempo heroes especially the Chen and
[04:54:00] he's still one that even pulled out on dying this tournament.
[04:54:03] This is definitely a team that's gonna play fast they're They're gonna move very quickly, they're going to build all the auras
[04:54:08] I really liked Tofu as well he's been adapting super well but
[04:54:11] He's one of those position 4 players
[04:54:12] That will just buy the aura, buy the glimmer cape if needed
[04:54:15] When a lot of sports might be
[04:54:16] a bit more greedy.
[04:54:18] So they're all in on the idea
[04:54:19] if we're going to play fast
[04:54:20] and we're going to end the game
[04:54:21] around that 20-30 minute mark.
[04:54:22] Now how do Boxy and Insania
[04:54:24] compare to that with that in mind?
[04:54:27] They can, they definitely
[04:54:28] Can it's just are they willing to because
[04:54:30] They have like in the upper bracket showed a completely
[04:54:32] Different play style from what we used
[04:54:34] To see them win with and they went more for that
[04:54:36] Team fight heavy, play a bit slower, pick the troll
[04:54:39] and rely on that a bit more.
[04:54:41] But we've seen them play very quick.
[04:54:43] We've seen box people like Dawnbreakers
[04:54:44] sure they didn't win that game
[04:54:46] but hopefully they didn't lose faith from it be like oh this is a little out
[04:54:49] of the box just go back to standard meta just keep picking the ores keep playing fast because
[04:54:53] i think that's what you have to do to beat gaming gladiators yeah a lot of flexibility coming from
[04:54:57] the supports as well no for sure and also like if you're looking at Liquid they need to be matching the speed right?
[04:55:02] I don't want to see no disruptors today with some kinetic wall
[04:55:04] I wanna see Insania's ET
[04:55:06] Like also stuff like Hoodwink, Weaver
[04:55:08] Weaver is a hero that owns in these games
[04:55:10] you need to match Gaiman's tempo
[04:55:12] Like they know it we know it
[04:55:13] so they have to show it with their type of hero picks
[04:55:16] and how they play the game
[04:55:17] And the support picks are going to be instrumental
[04:55:19] because gaming gladiators You see them over and over again.
[04:55:22] You talk about their auras in their five men but you have to break it down into how they get to that point right?
[04:55:27] A huge chunk of why they can get to that point is the support rotations
[04:55:31] to them and playing.
[04:55:32] The rune security for Quinn,
[04:55:33] the early rotations to get that mid tower early
[04:55:35] and then aggressively enter the jungle
[04:55:37] or the triangle through that tower.
[04:55:39] So Liquid have to have supports
[04:55:40] that are able to match that pace instantly
[04:55:42] It can't be something that loses in lane
[04:55:44] And then has to TP mid, your refill bottle
[04:55:46] Walks back to the lane, mid gets ganked
[04:55:48] We can't see any of that today
[04:55:50] No and with that in mind if you want the supports to be freed up
[04:55:53] that means our offlaners they have to have something that is fine
[04:55:58] even if you know their four leaves a little bit of fear yeah i mean i think
[04:56:02] the all-trainers certainly look out for it i think we have a lot more a little bit of shit. Yeah, I mean, I think the offlaners
[04:56:03] to really look out for it.
[04:56:04] I think we have
[04:56:05] a lot from Daemon Gladiators
[04:56:06] and of course
[04:56:07] Underlord
[04:56:08] and Brewmaster
[04:56:09] is going to be
[04:56:10] the big one
[04:56:11] going into this one.
[04:56:12] I think we struggled
[04:56:13] a little bit on 33 earlier on the turn of the Brewmaster. He had like a 25% win rate.
[04:56:15] They scrapped it for a little while
[04:56:16] and then once they lost
[04:56:17] to Gaiman with it,
[04:56:18] they pulled out just earlier today
[04:56:20] tried a different build
[04:56:21] and now it's back.
[04:56:22] So I think he figured out
[04:56:23] what the problem was there.
[04:56:24] So we're going to see a lot of overlap
[04:56:26] in some of the heroes that 33 likes to play.
[04:56:28] Brew is going to be a big one for sure
[04:56:30] and outside of that it's going to be the Doom.
[04:56:31] This is a hero that Liquid have not lost with
[04:56:33] and this is kind of here hero that builds orbs,
[04:56:35] but also counters a lot
[04:56:36] of the healing strategy on top of it.
[04:56:38] So these are going to be big offlaners look for him.
[04:56:40] Yeah like for me Dota right now
[04:56:41] It's all about like the small things
[04:56:43] obviously the draft and also your gameplay
[04:56:44] how fast do you get to your timings how do
[04:56:46] your lanes go how can you rotate around the map so every little pick and like every play in all
[04:56:50] these lanes it matters so much that these two teams they need to adapt and constantly like
[04:56:54] improve like even gaming gladiators probably looked at what Liquid did just now
[04:56:57] you know, Falcons gave them the Monkey King that's very likely something gaming will not do
[04:57:01] but all these small things, they will matter more than ever in this series. Yeah and with
[04:57:05] that in mind, I mean we like in terms of diversity
[04:57:08] I would say after the role has been least diverse for both
[04:57:12] The squads has been the carry role from Mickey and the retro.
[04:57:15] Yeah it feels like the ratio inio in particular loves his CK
[04:57:19] where he'll pick it in almost every game.
[04:57:21] You know if the Weaver is in it,
[04:57:22] He'll take a two but this kind of works even though
[04:57:25] the carry pool's limited because the carries that
[04:57:27] he puts himself on are these really early game high
[04:57:30] tempo carries, that can rotate through the gate early get that top power but also sit
[04:57:35] on lane and do nothing so that the supports can move around. Because you talked about
[04:57:38] the offlaner needing to be self-sustaining so the supports can be around. Because you talked about the offlaner needing
[04:57:39] to be self-sustaining
[04:57:40] so the supports can be freed,
[04:57:41] the same thing applies
[04:57:41] to carry chiefs.
[04:57:42] Whereas with Micke,
[04:57:43] he's playing the more
[04:57:44] ranged carry archetype
[04:57:45] where we're seeing
[04:57:46] a lot of trolls,
[04:57:47] we're seeing a lot of TAs,
[04:57:48] a lot of razors
[04:57:48] but we haven't actually seen him pivot to that melee self-sustaining type of carry the way Duraccio has.
[04:57:55] Yeah, the way you can want to if you want Insania to go through a portal and make something happen there.
[04:58:00] Well unless you have really good lanes which of course go through a portal and make something happen there.
[04:58:00] Well, unless you have really good lanes which of course is
[04:58:02] something they can do I feel like they're a little bit similar
[04:58:04] with the Rachu and Mikke in terms of they want to play fast
[04:58:07] They play off their lane maybe they can go through the gate
[04:58:09] and help their team but it is true
[04:58:11] like what mira was saying that you're not going to see mickey on like a naga siren
[04:58:14] but i also don't think you're gonna see the rachi on like some theater thousand
[04:58:17] nine certain like one v five again it's very much play for your team play
[04:58:20] for the tempo and when it comes together you're going to win.
[04:58:23] And when something falls flat,
[04:58:24] it just doesn't look that great.
[04:58:25] It just does not
[04:58:26] and I think a lot of pressure is gonna also be on
[04:58:29] the coaches of both teams because
[04:58:31] there's a lot of data and a lot of what if and buts that can come into play
[04:58:36] with the series like that especially when it comes to best-of-five and i would love
[04:58:39] to hear some words from blitz who Purge was talking to earlier today.
[04:58:46] Hey, I'm here with Blitz of Team Liquid. They won their series earlier today
[04:58:48] which got them to this point but I want to talk
[04:58:50] about how your journey was
[04:58:52] for the previous year, basically.
[04:58:54] Last year you guys had an amazing year
[04:58:55] and got a lot of second places
[04:58:57] What's it feel like now to be back in the finals?
[04:58:59] Honestly I feel a little bit indifferent
[04:59:01] because I know what it is like to get second place
[04:59:04] I don't know what it's like to win.
[04:59:05] It's been quite some time since we've had a big win.
[04:59:07] For me,
[04:59:07] I think the last LAN that I was a part of
[04:59:09] that we won
[04:59:10] was ESL
[04:59:10] when I was a part of DC
[04:59:13] so it's been quite some time
[04:59:14] and I think second or third,
[04:59:16] like who cares at this point?
[04:59:18] You know, it's the same thing.
[04:59:19] So you talked a little bit about how
[04:59:21] you guys have different play styles in gaming gladiators.
[04:59:23] Does that affect your confidence
[04:59:25] And does all of
[04:59:26] that like collide with all the stress of going into this
[04:59:29] tournament no i mean the thing is i know people will say
[04:59:32] like we have no chance and stuff like that in past history but
[04:59:35] that's that's on everybody else
[04:59:36] to think.
[04:59:37] I believe in my team to be able to do it.
[04:59:39] Everyone is like, it's so obnoxious seeing them
[04:59:40] in the finals again, the same exact one.
[04:59:42] Well then somebody else should have beat us.
[04:59:43] What can you do?
[04:59:44] It's not like I'm just going to tell
[04:59:45] my team let's lose to give somebody
[04:59:46] else a chance at this biscuit.
[04:59:47] No, we'll do it
[04:59:48] 100 times
[04:59:49] and maybe on the
[04:59:50] 100th one
[04:59:50] we'll be quitting
[04:59:51] Gladiators.
[04:59:52] I don't care how many
[04:59:52] times,
[04:59:52] we'll keep coming
[04:59:53] for them.
[04:59:53] Are you going
[04:59:54] to do the tweet
[04:59:54] nobody beats Liquid
[04:59:55] 99 times in a row?
[04:59:56] Absolutely.
[04:59:57] If we win
[04:59:57] I don't want to jinx it obviously but I'm really popping liquid 99 times in a row. Absolutely. If we win,
[04:59:59] I don't want to jinx it obviously but
[04:59:59] I'm really popping off
[05:00:00] because I feel like
[05:00:01] my team really deserves it
[05:00:02] but this team
[05:00:03] is extremely good
[05:00:04] and if it was easy
[05:00:05] to beat them
[05:00:06] somebody would have
[05:00:06] done it before
[05:00:07] for this tournament
[05:00:08] but obviously it's a lot more complicated than that. Alright well easy to beat them. Somebody would have done it before in this tournament,
[05:00:10] but obviously it's a lot more complicated than that.
[05:00:11] All right, well good luck on your match and I hope you guys do well.
[05:00:13] Cheers, thank you.
[05:00:14] A lot more complicated than that indeed
[05:00:16] and especially yesterday.
[05:00:19] Hey Wanda, actually Fira Fer you've probably been in situations
[05:00:20] like this where
[05:00:22] you get knocked down in the upper bracket
[05:00:24] You gotta go through the lower bracket to go further
[05:00:26] You get to the Grand Finals
[05:00:28] but you already played a team.
[05:00:33] How much impact does it have? Even if it was a beatdown like that.
[05:00:35] That's actually my exact TI5 run.
[05:00:39] We got 2-0'd really badly in upper bracket.
[05:00:41] We went down and played LGD.
[05:00:43] It was like 2-0, I don't remember, 2-1, 2-0,
[05:00:45] doesn't matter but we went into it the next game.
[05:00:47] It's really about the talk you have after you lost in the upper bracket. That's
[05:00:49] going to be everything because like
[05:00:51] either you die up there and you're just like a corpse floating down to the lower
[05:00:54] bracket or you're reinvigorated you're motivated
[05:00:57] you win down there then you go into that grand finals
[05:00:59] and you have that fire and you figured out your mistakes what do you which uh which side
[05:01:03] do you think team liquid's on because it seems like they're he's got energy it's a lot it has to
[05:01:09] be when you get owned the way they did in an upper bracket final,
[05:01:12] Yeah.
[05:01:13] You better have a good talk because people will be emotional and
[05:01:15] be like guys what the hell is this? We can't do this again
[05:01:17] This is what needs to be changed
[05:01:19] So I have a lot of faith in them coming into today
[05:01:22] knowing what needs to be changed and just showing it with the gameplay too.
[05:01:25] Easy enough? Maybe not a very fast Grand Finals then Effie?
[05:01:29] I would hope not! I want to see something incredibly competitive
[05:01:32] but if Liquid... It's hard to fix everything with one talk overnight,
[05:01:36] especially when there are multiple issues that were presented the day before.
[05:01:39] And I do believe there were multiple issues that were presented.
[05:01:41] Are they going to look at it and say
[05:01:43] we lost Enchantress in chen
[05:01:45] we lost to the dazzle versus ember we lost this dk what do we fix here because
[05:01:49] there isn't enough time to do that if they can identify what they thought was
[05:01:52] the primary factor for their loss and work only on that i believe in them
[05:01:57] i think a lot of people around the world are thinking this could be the one
[05:02:00] there's a lot of fans from both teams i think also for gaming gladiators we can't
[05:02:04] sell the shot they are the ultimate rate boss here every up masters
[05:02:07] and they have been looking solid this year they haven't gotten a first place title yet at a LAN
[05:02:13] so we don't know how strong they'll be.
[05:02:16] They're hungry for this just as much as Liquid is,
[05:02:18] so let's get this final started
[05:02:20] as we're heading over to BSJ first.
[05:02:24] Aiden, my man,
[05:02:25] this is not your first rodeo.
[05:02:31] We've seen you here before. What's going to be different about today against Game of Gladiators? This time we're gonna smash them.
[05:02:33] What makes you say that, my man? Are you feeling confident?
[05:02:35] Yeah, of course! Did you see our last series?
[05:02:37] I did but I also saw your series yesterday.
[05:02:39] I don't remember the series.
[05:02:40] I don't know what you're talking about.
[05:02:41] Short-term memory?
[05:02:42] Well let's see what happens in the finals or...
[05:02:46] Excuse me.
[05:02:48] I'm as nervous as they are right now apparently But Excuse me.
[05:02:50] I'm as nervous as they are right now apparently,
[05:02:52] but that...I'm actually way more nervous than you
[05:02:54] and we're going to go ahead and let you walk out
[05:02:56] and show that you're not nervous.
[05:02:58] Thank you. Hello, turn this way.
[05:03:00] I'm here with Game and Gladiators
[05:03:02] and Quinn first off I have a gift for you.
[05:03:08] Thank you. Okay you, sir.
[05:03:10] Okay and I got a question for
[05:03:11] you.
[05:03:12] What are you going to do when
[05:03:13] the crowd starts chanting let's
[05:03:15] go liquid during your grand
[05:03:17] finals?
[05:03:18] Win. Okay pretty base though. Well, i'm gonna let you do that and
[05:03:23] you can enjoy the the walk out here uh let's get into the grand finals so so so so so so so.
[05:04:52] . so so so so so so so so so so Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for Grand Finals!
[05:06:55] Four days of play-ins, five days of groups
[05:06:58] And six days of playoffs have culminated in this moment.
[05:07:02] We brought 20 teams here
[05:07:04] And now we're left to just two.
[05:07:06] Two powerhouse remain, gaming gladiators crushing their opponents with speed throughout the whole upper bracket
[05:07:13] but now they've been waiting all day to see who's
[05:07:16] worthy enough to face them in this
[05:07:18] Best of Five and they are ready to claim
[05:07:20] their first LAN title of the year
[05:07:22] Last year that would have seemed
[05:07:24] preposterous! They were dominating the scene making every other team look like chumps
[05:07:30] Specifically one opponent in particular Team Liquid
[05:07:33] Team liquid has been having their run in the upper bracket,
[05:07:37] knocking down Real Masters 2023 reigning champions.
[05:07:41] Winning 2-1 against Tundra Esports
[05:07:43] but then they fell short against Gaming Gladiators
[05:07:46] But now they have a chance to take revenge
[05:07:49] and claim this trophy. A lesser team may have fallen faster,
[05:07:53] but Liquid dusted themselves off quickly as they dominated Falcons 2-0 just hours ago and now we're
[05:08:00] ready to see if they have what it takes again the best of five that's right and
[05:08:04] we are ready to welcome the teams on stage ladies Ladies and gentlemen, it is my honor to
[05:08:10] welcome the first Grand Finalists of FIAL Masters 2024! It is Team Liquid!
[05:08:28] The Liquid Mastermind,
[05:08:33] the tactical genius, one click away from victory, Insania!
[05:08:43] The jolly assassin, the friendly force of destruction ex-machete
[05:08:53] one of the best in the world never claimed a trophy of this magnitude the uncrowned King Misha
[05:08:59] lot of these in his name but what's important is getting 3-0
[05:09:03] and this best to five is 33.
[05:09:11] No force be it natural or biological, has stopped this man from winning.
[05:09:18] It's Poitras-based boxee! Beast Boxy!
[05:09:33] And their eternal rivals, coming to the stage... It's Game and Gladiators!
[05:09:59] Oh! All tournament long he's been cool and calm, but now he's finally here to collect. it's quinn sometimes it's a throw sometimes it's a go but no matter what facet this man chooses
[05:10:04] he's gonna be making some dough!
[05:10:07] D'Oraggio!
[05:10:13] Don't let his diet fool you, because this man's a carnivore!
[05:10:17] Celery!!!
[05:10:22] The four position has never looked this good.
[05:10:25] And I'm talking about the gameplay tofu
[05:10:34] and this man's responsible for shooting down so many enemies in his career,
[05:10:38] but now he's flying high after making it
[05:10:40] through the upper bracket.
[05:10:42] Ace!
[05:10:53] And for the last time players please take your seats and place your keys as this may be your last chance to hold them. Nothing is granted, everything is earned. Then let's get this grand final started! so so Who will earn the title for champion here at Rehabmasters live from the Esports World Cup?
[05:12:09] We're going to find out in the upcoming Best of Five.
[05:12:11] But perhaps you already have a couple of ideas about who will do better in this series
[05:12:18] make sure you get your predictions in www.sccplay.gg
[05:12:21] You know the drill, you know the track record and the history with these two teams,
[05:12:26] these ten players on stage.
[05:12:28] And I want to get into the nitty-gritty of this
[05:12:31] because we talked a little bit about
[05:12:33] oh Celery makes them ban Enchantress and Eng.
[05:12:37] It's a best of five everything changes in the best of five because you might want to again let them through
[05:12:43] have a plan against kazoo the thing is you need to like we talked before the whichever talk they had yesterday after
[05:12:49] the series is very important because it needs to lead them to like the right conclusions
[05:12:53] what they want to do cause yes when you play the best teams
[05:12:55] You need to choose at least a couple heroes
[05:12:58] you have to play against whichever ones you have the best plan against
[05:13:01] whichever makes the draft feels the best and makes your players feel
[05:13:04] the best so i cannot tell you whether they're gonna ban
[05:13:06] ancient chen they struggled against it you know last night So I cannot tell you whether they're going to ban Ench and Chen.
[05:13:07] They circled against it,
[05:13:08] you know,
[05:13:08] last night,
[05:13:09] but maybe they feel like if we change something up,
[05:13:12] we can just play against them.
[05:13:13] Yeah.
[05:13:14] I mean,
[05:13:14] I have a slightly different take for there's always a weakness in the armor
[05:13:18] for every team, and I think
[05:13:19] for gaming gliders,
[05:13:20] it is Dorachio right now.
[05:13:22] He has played very few heroes successfully,
[05:13:24] mainly the CK.
[05:13:25] He's played pretty good
[05:13:26] on the Broodmother as well.
[05:13:28] And then what was one other hero he was playing as well?
[05:13:30] He played Alchemist, Ursa.
[05:13:32] Ursa is a hero so yes and those heroes are not even close to CK
[05:13:35] So I think you really want to target Durachio
[05:13:38] put him out of his comfort zone. Put him on
[05:13:40] a Durachio moment type of hero right now.
[05:13:42] The CK is way too good on this team
[05:13:44] and I feel like it should be auto-banned. See if
[05:13:46] you can get Durachio to play something new for the team when he
[05:13:48] played heroes like Windranger and stuff like that in previous series,
[05:13:50] the team did not look nearly as good.
[05:13:53] So that would be my approach.
[05:13:55] Yeah, the thing is you don't want
[05:13:57] to overcorrect as well. And
[05:13:58] even though Dorachio's hero pool has has been limited i think it's very good in
[05:14:02] snooki's current hero pool too we saw how he picked ursa and nikki took razor anyway into
[05:14:08] the ursula where a lot of people would consider versa asa a late game solution to Razor.
[05:14:12] So what is the weakness in the armor
[05:14:14] of Team Liquid, or did Gladiators
[05:14:16] already kinda
[05:14:18] hit the mark there yesterday?
[05:14:20] I think they exposed them
[05:14:23] just hardcore when it comes to strategy and
[05:14:25] draft, I can't even tell you if
[05:14:27] they really had a lot of
[05:14:29] weaknesses in their gameplay because I feel like
[05:14:31] there wasn't actually that much gameplay to be had. At least
[05:14:33] that's my opinion when I watched the series
[05:14:35] they had yesterday. Yeah, and I feel
[05:14:37] like they just went out of their comfort
[05:14:39] zone and by that more of like they
[05:14:41] tried a different strategy that didn't fit the bill
[05:14:44] of what they liked to do.
[05:14:45] I think Liquid has a lot of good heroes so they can play Sven, Doombeast,
[05:14:49] TA even the Chikiro are very high win rate heroes for them right now
[05:14:53] and they kind of went away from
[05:14:55] that in picking heroes like the Sand King.
[05:14:57] If 33 isn't playing an Ori hero, I don't know if i can believe in Liquid.
[05:15:00] I think that's pretty much what I boil it down to right now for them.
[05:15:03] Yeah but I think the Chen Enchantress
[05:15:06] fans can actually play in Liquid's favor
[05:15:07] if the Beastmaster doesn't get banned
[05:15:09] out by GG because we saw in the Falcon
[05:15:11] series they did not ban out the
[05:15:13] Beastmaster after the Chen Enchantment, and they just take it.
[05:15:16] And honestly, it's by far 3-3's best hero this tournament when he does get it.
[05:15:20] Even if the lane is unfavorable,
[05:15:21] he will farm his way more efficiently than the other offlaner regardless
[05:15:26] of the lane and
[05:15:26] they'll play off
[05:15:27] of that timing solo.
[05:15:28] I mean there's
[05:15:29] Doom as well in
[05:15:29] the pool, Beast
[05:15:30] and Doom both
[05:15:31] made it through
[05:15:31] with Chen
[05:15:32] Ench.
[05:15:33] I mean there's
[05:15:34] obviously now like
[05:15:34] you will have a
[05:15:35] lot of damn good
[05:15:36] heroes that will be in the pool so this is you will have a lot of damn good heroes that
[05:15:36] will be in the pool so this is also where perhaps a lot of prep can
[05:15:39] play into it. GG will just open up with a Jakiro which
[05:15:43] has looked good, wouldn't say it's anything too spicy there but for
[05:15:46] Liquid other heroes that are open up
[05:15:47] that gaiman did not allow them to have last time is for instance the monkey king later on maybe
[05:15:53] a more fling so it's like i'm just looking for liquid to make sure that they
[05:15:57] get off with a good start.
[05:15:58] You know, have the heroes that make you feel good and
[05:16:00] you can lane into them and just play some good DOS.
[05:16:03] I would agree with that one.
[05:16:05] I think right now it's like you cannot let Liquid
[05:16:07] have too much of a lead in the early game,
[05:16:09] because they are one of the best teams in the world right now on gaming gladiators.
[05:16:12] If you do manage to get them into good laning stage,
[05:16:15] they're going to take Grosh and build every ore in the game
[05:16:17] and then you'll somehow deal with that on the high ground
[05:16:20] and that's not where you want to be. And Monkey King, this is great
[05:16:22] Great hero. It's very versatile
[05:16:23] Micke is incredibly good on this hero too
[05:16:26] so it limits a lot of options
[05:16:28] you want to pick for
[05:16:29] just fitting your offlane right now,
[05:16:31] because most of the offlaners right now don't enjoy playing versus Monkey.
[05:16:34] You wanna be this strength tanky guy that builds Auras and Monkey definitely dissuades that.
[05:16:39] It does, and it also kind kind of solves potential sand kings better in the pool
[05:16:43] because it can follow sand king to either the mid lane or at the offlane which really is valuable
[05:16:49] it's also the fact that nisha plays a good Monkey King too, I'm sure they would be
[05:16:52] the most happiest if Mika just gets to play it in a good matchup but like Feroz mentioned
[05:16:57] it's not that easy for a game into the kind of craft and offlane where
[05:17:00] you feel really good about it Beastmaster of course is a great hero but can struggle against Monkey King
[05:17:05] maybe there's stuff like, you can try to bust out some visage combo in the offlane
[05:17:09] that many people don't play, but Monkey King is a hero
[05:17:12] that needs to be addressed. This hero goes rampant in games
[05:17:16] where he has a good early game.
[05:17:17] You know what addresses Monkey King? Enchantress,
[05:17:19] that simple. I mean Gaiman loves the pick anyway she can enchant
[05:17:22] to dispel the jingling stacks on Monkey King,
[05:17:24] can follow him to lane if he's position 4
[05:17:26] as a position 5 and is overall
[05:17:28] a general nuisance for this hero. Another
[05:17:30] hero that I think should be
[05:17:32] looked at when you talk about Zoo lineups
[05:17:35] and auras is pure damage.
[05:17:37] So we were theorycrafting Timbersaw
[05:17:39] earlier in the first series,
[05:17:40] it didn't look good
[05:17:41] because of loss obviously
[05:17:43] but there's potential
[05:17:44] for something like that.
[05:17:45] I mean,
[05:17:46] not much was just so volatile right now.
[05:17:47] It can't it can look pretty good or can look really bad.
[05:17:50] It just really just depends on how
[05:17:51] the laning stage goes there and we'll see what
[05:17:54] the next fan into pick is going to be here.
[05:17:57] We still are waiting for supports.
[05:17:59] Sand King gets banned out anyway because they have the Monkey King on Team Liquid,
[05:18:05] which means that their Sand King can essentially be protected.
[05:18:09] I also want to talk about the heroes we saw Nisha play yesterday.
[05:18:12] We saw him on the Tiny and the Pango.
[05:18:15] We saw the Pango today, and both of those heroes looked really good for him
[05:18:18] did tl give up on their tiny idea because they lost with it yesterday or are they
[05:18:23] potentially going to run it back here i could see them skip the tiny, but Tango is too good.
[05:18:29] I think this hero he's tanky, he's universal you build all of his stats
[05:18:32] gives a great teamfight minus armor whatever you want
[05:18:34] I really like at least so far what's happening for Liquid in this draft
[05:18:37] You have your Monkey you feel great, Boxy on his Warp I really like at least so far what's happening for the Liquid in this draft.
[05:18:38] You have your Monkey, you feel great.
[05:18:40] Boxy on his Warfling?
[05:18:41] I feel like this plus-four Warfling is incredibly strong, perhaps even underrated.
[05:18:45] So honestly they must be feeling good right now.
[05:18:47] Yeah, I mean they could also flex us to carry if like some Gyro
[05:18:49] Copter comes out later, right? And I
[05:18:51] really like, as I said in the pre-show
[05:18:53] this CK getting banned. I feel
[05:18:55] like if Gaming Gliders gets his hero
[05:18:57] Dorotty doesn't care what he plays in. I saw him pick it
[05:18:59] into like five counters.
[05:19:01] He didn't care,
[05:19:02] so I think
[05:19:03] this is most likely
[05:19:03] going to be
[05:19:04] Darachka's hero
[05:19:05] but Ace also
[05:19:05] is really good on it
[05:19:06] so both these teams
[05:19:07] are being very open
[05:19:08] with what they're
[05:19:08] picking right now.
[05:19:09] Monkey King could be four
[05:19:10] could be carry morph i mean 2024 can't be support can't be carried so that's very interesting but
[05:19:17] the question is the ck ban That's an issue they clearly saw yesterday
[05:19:21] but because of that
[05:19:22] They give away the Brood
[05:19:23] Now followed by the Chen too
[05:19:25] which is something
[05:19:26] that they also struggled with yesterday
[05:19:27] Do they have answers within
[05:19:28] the Monkey King plus more flame?
[05:19:30] They don't, honestly.
[05:19:32] And now that the Root is here they need
[05:19:34] some form of A-league ground damage
[05:19:36] to either deal with the offlane Groot but if you're
[05:19:38] building within your drafts to deal with offlane
[05:19:40] Groot you can just swap it to carry and that hero is countered
[05:19:42] completely differently than an Offlane Brood is.
[05:19:45] Yeah I mean they're going to have to most likely
[05:19:46] Morph. I mean Morph can be played for
[05:19:48] Brood. It does hit a weird spot where when he gets
[05:19:51] Spiders he get kicked out. monkey could be their carry and they
[05:19:53] could just pick something the off lane now that i can deal with it i've seen slardar
[05:19:56] get picked a lot but that's also another here that's very good against uh the broodmother
[05:20:01] i'm sure team liquid has some answers here but the real question is are they
[05:20:05] gonna answer this brood while still staying in the architect type of picking auras and being able to
[05:20:11] five man because gaming has shown you can try and stop them
[05:20:14] with a bunch of Aelee team fight.
[05:20:16] Yeah. They just out heal it.
[05:20:17] Yeah I mean the Pango here at least for now is very good
[05:20:20] I was looking for like some counter team fighter
[05:20:21] there's going to be a Jokiro Brute Chen running at you
[05:20:23] what do you need against that?
[05:20:24] It's counter team fight like Tide, Phoenix, Pangolier
[05:20:26] so Pango already fits really well into that
[05:20:28] I do now wonder if they're going to pick just
[05:20:30] maybe Insanius hero then keep the rest
[05:20:32] more open for later
[05:20:33] Like who is really what
[05:20:34] give last pick two three three
[05:20:36] this hero pool could be kind of low because there's a lot of offlaners already banned out
[05:20:40] but i do like to see him pango response here
[05:20:44] yeah they'll have to dig pretty deep.
[05:20:46] They're still Underlord and Tide as you mentioned
[05:20:49] And a couple other heroes. What else has he played here?
[05:20:52] I mean, you don't want Visage at all
[05:20:54] Well, I love all these thoughts about the draft
[05:20:56] Let's get some more in with MoonMeander
[05:20:57] who is sitting down with her.
[05:21:00] Hey, Moon. You called
[05:21:02] the CM pick. What do you think about this draft so far?
[05:21:04] I think it is heavily
[05:21:05] flavored for Team Liquid
[05:21:06] because Chen right now is countered by Pangolier
[05:21:11] and Team Liquid's doing the same strategy they did against Falcons where
[05:21:14] They banned Weaver, put Wing in Snap which means the last S tier four is Jokiro
[05:21:19] to win the lane for ACE
[05:21:21] which is Gaben's bread and butter
[05:21:22] as to win the offlane.
[05:21:24] However, the CM Monkey
[05:21:25] has really good answer
[05:21:26] that there's Jokiro or Brutemurder in my opinion. all right who's got the advantage right now with
[05:21:30] the invoker pick i still think it's team liquid because invoker is not a good hero
[05:21:36] tangly is going to out team fight Game and Gladiators line up right now
[05:21:40] So not only are they gonna have a
[05:21:41] Not as strong offlane this patch
[05:21:43] They're also gonna get an out teamfight
[05:21:44] This game, which is like
[05:21:46] Opposite of what's happening all tournament long for
[05:21:48] Game and Gladiators Alright thanks Moon of what happening all tournament long gaming gladiators
[05:21:50] all right thanks moon thank you both with the invoker pickup he feels that
[05:21:55] gaming gladiators is uh lacking a little bit compared to team
[05:21:59] liquid fear yeah i mean i see that opinion a little bit compared to Team Liquid fear.
[05:22:00] Yeah, I mean,
[05:22:01] I see that opinion being pretty valid there just teamfight is going
[05:22:04] to be lacking but they're definitely not lacking
[05:22:07] a bunch of damage mitigation heroes.
[05:22:09] Of course Brood has his own Lifesteal,
[05:22:11] Chen buys all the auras.
[05:22:13] I'm sure they're waiting
[05:22:14] for this last pick
[05:22:15] to really decide
[05:22:15] how they want
[05:22:16] to wrap this up.
[05:22:17] As we mentioned earlier,
[05:22:18] this Brood could be
[05:22:19] their offlane,
[05:22:20] it could be their carry.
[05:22:21] We don't really know on the same side i think we do have
[05:22:23] last pick on team liquid right so they will be able to choose is this morph to carry is
[05:22:28] this monkey a four and then that gives them a lot of options if they're already with that alone.
[05:22:33] Well, I do think the short Invoker
[05:22:35] doesn't give you like the most team fight
[05:22:36] and I liked Pango into Invoker as well
[05:22:38] but he gives you a lot of like teamfight move ability right?
[05:22:40] He can go through this Brood Lane
[05:22:42] with the Chen,
[05:22:42] he can get a Vessel.
[05:22:43] He can kind of like offset the matchup potentially if there's some offlane Brood into the Monkey.
[05:22:47] So I will agree with a lot of what was said before, of course, with the draft so far
[05:22:51] but there is so much gameplay that also goes into these matchups
[05:22:54] That you know I can definitely see this Quinn and Volker go
[05:22:57] Kind of ham, yeah
[05:22:59] You could also just
[05:23:00] I don't mind putting Pango off lane in this game
[05:23:02] If you know Gru to carry as well
[05:23:04] And if you're like that something that 33 does play,
[05:23:06] he'd be pretty comfortable with.
[05:23:07] I would just be interested to see what he builds.
[05:23:10] You know it would be cool
[05:23:11] if we are actually worried about the pango flex
[05:23:14] for offline is that you could just
[05:23:15] pick Bloodseeker and do a flex between Brood
[05:23:17] and Bloodseekers.
[05:23:18] It would be open.
[05:23:18] I think it's a very cool concept,
[05:23:20] not sure if it'll come out here on the grand finals day
[05:23:23] but they have done it before on GG where
[05:23:25] they ran an offline Bloodseeker versus Blacklist.
[05:23:29] Yeah, I mean that's definitely a possibility if they're really worried about the Pango there.
[05:23:32] The only issue potentially would be...
[05:23:35] I don't know if Bloodseeker
[05:23:36] just be good versus the Pango.
[05:23:37] So I guess you could take that out
[05:23:38] but who's going to carry the game?
[05:23:40] Guess the Brood still could do it.
[05:23:41] Yeah actually kind of like that.
[05:23:44] Yeah I'm looking and thinking right now
[05:23:46] kind of what they want to go for.
[05:23:48] Because the problem is you don't really know your matchup yet.
[05:23:52] Like I am thinking maybe there's like some...
[05:23:55] StarCraft is just such a bad hero and you have to pick it blind so scrap that back to you Fear.
[05:23:59] I mean sure Ace, Ace doesn't play
[05:24:00] Lows on Mars
[05:24:03] at all. That's a hero that I felt could be okay
[05:24:05] against Monking, but they're
[05:24:07] not something Ace plays a lot.
[05:24:08] So I kind of feel like Ace might play this Brood unless they...
[05:24:11] I just don't know what Ace tier they're going to pick that's good versus Monkey King and Morph.
[05:24:15] It doesn't seem like it exists, like Brood might be the best pick there and they're still the ace underlord even if it's
[05:24:23] playing against monkey king online maybe they just value it so much as a hero but there's also wind
[05:24:27] ranger which they could just decide to run on geraffes and i can have it counter both the pango
[05:24:31] and donkey king also the bloodseeker idea that i'm pretty fond of but that would be really cool
[05:24:39] if it's not the blood seeker then i think he's playing the brood on ace
[05:24:42] because yeah i'm not sure if underlord is it's probably okay
[05:24:46] it fits what they want to do but it's definitely not something you're going
[05:24:49] to crush lane with and that's why they're really thinking
[05:24:51] about this pig we just go with what's good and they're just gonna go straight into the beast
[05:24:55] master here they don't really care about the cm monkey king matchup and i think if you're in
[05:24:59] this position now let's see a monkey king should feel really happy in this thing now, the CM Monkey King should feel really happy
[05:25:03] in this lane. Are we still sure that Monkey
[05:25:05] King is going to be the carry? I feel like they should.
[05:25:07] He has to be your carry now. If you're not willing
[05:25:09] to pick CM Monkey into this lane, you might as well
[05:25:11] give up. This is going to be one of the one of
[05:25:13] the better lengths that are gonna be handed to you of course for gaming it will still give them what
[05:25:16] they want and walker can go there later he's gonna build auras he's gonna get the eggs and stuff like
[05:25:21] that i mean if i'm liquid i'm still, I don't know if there's any mid
[05:25:24] that feels great.
[05:25:25] If I want to pick an offlane here,
[05:25:28] Tide still looks kind of cool
[05:25:29] but they can also put a Pango offlane
[05:25:31] and look for some Nisha.
[05:25:33] They just played the Underlordlord is there a problem with that
[05:25:37] you could puck versus invoker i put this got banned out gaming thought the exact same thing
[05:25:42] they banned our two mid laners actually so keeping uh the pango on the off lane
[05:25:47] in their heads yeah they will go for less 900 as a good call i mean i do think it just makes
[05:25:53] a lot of they have like a very nice lineup so far like you have
[05:25:56] gay men who generally just have to run
[05:25:58] into you if i'm liquid i'm super happy
[05:26:00] with my draft that tide owns a lot of
[05:26:02] these heroes the lane matchup can
[05:26:04] i'm not super knowledgeable nowadays how it goes but
[05:26:06] Tide should be chill there you have your boxy Morphling
[05:26:09] I feel like Liquid got everything they needed in this game to have a good draft
[05:26:12] short game ender too but I actually favor Liquid in those drafts
[05:26:16] yeah I mean their draft is really good
[05:26:17] the one thing about the mid matchup you might not know
[05:26:19] is that double jump gets cancelled by Tornado
[05:26:21] so thats why then Fokker's picked against it
[05:26:23] So that helps a lot
[05:26:24] So the mid matchup should be good for Quinn
[05:26:26] But I think Team Liquid has a very good lineup that responds to what Gaming Glider
[05:26:30] has and it does what it needs to do as far as have auras
[05:26:33] and stuff like that, but Gaiman has a gaming line up
[05:26:35] will they just run them over? That's going to be the question for me.
[05:26:38] I think this Tide Pick is great because
[05:26:40] it kind of tanks a lot of things, right? It can stand
[05:26:43] in the middle of the Chen army. It can't
[05:26:45] get roared because it'll just dispel it
[05:26:46] and it doesn't care about the Rude orcid timing whatsoever but I still think
[05:26:51] that rude carry is incredibly powerful and has such a strong like 20 minute timing that even
[05:26:56] though tales heroes can address it they might not be able to address it fast enough
[05:27:00] because you're going to be very dependent on that Ravage
[05:27:02] to fight which they really don't want in this game.
[05:27:06] To me this game is a lot about like the first move
[05:27:08] when Pango goes top does Brute go through
[05:27:10] the gate?
[05:27:11] How does Liquid respond
[05:27:12] to this type of move?
[05:27:12] Who wins the first one?
[05:27:14] Because whoever wins
[05:27:14] that move is kind of
[05:27:15] going to have
[05:27:15] the whole tempo
[05:27:16] but I believe in Liquid.
[05:27:18] Will it be a high-tempo
[05:27:19] game then?
[05:27:19] It has to be. It has to be.
[05:27:20] From both teams.
[05:27:22] We know Gaiman wants to do...
[05:27:24] Whoa!
[05:27:26] Disrespect.
[05:27:28] I will say those odds are pretty favorable for Gaiman Gliators and to be honest they do have a good
[05:27:34] track record to go with it let's see how game one of this best-of-five is gonna happen but first
[05:27:38] some words from coach blitz you guys got to open with the Monkey King.
[05:27:42] It gives you tons of flex potential and lane matchup advantages.
[05:27:46] Do you think it put Gladiators in a bad place during the draft?
[05:27:51] Yeah I mean we like the hero personally.
[05:27:53] I'll always smash Monkey pick
[05:27:55] they're aware of that too, they probably had some idea behind it
[05:27:57] but yeah, we'll see if their
[05:27:59] Giga Geniuses or we have to readjust
[05:28:01] Do you think they adapted well enough,
[05:28:04] or do you think that the Monkeys just kind of too good at a lane?
[05:28:06] I mean when you play against Gladiators
[05:28:08] your pretty much just trying to avoid hitting
[05:28:10] death ball timing and Monkey's pretty good at that
[05:28:12] so I can't say for Alves' turn, but
[05:28:14] I think we're much more early game-centric than
[05:28:16] we were in the first series, at least.
[05:28:18] What about the Tide pick? We saw Spirit pick it a little
[05:28:21] bit earlier in the tournament, but it's kind of
[05:28:23] on and off good. Is it just good because of the Brood?
[05:28:25] Yeah, I think it covered both angles.
[05:28:28] Netta wanted to play it
[05:28:29] one of the offlaners
[05:28:31] that I think he's really successful with, just in general.
[05:28:34] It has a nice lane against most of their heroes.
[05:28:37] Are you worried about their massive
[05:28:38] summons between Beastmaster,
[05:28:40] Chen, Brood and Voker?
[05:28:42] That's 4 out of 5. If they do get
[05:28:44] an advantage is the game hard to hold back?
[05:28:46] Yeah. I mean every game against Gladiators in this tournament
[05:28:49] is kind of going to look the same.
[05:28:50] If you get overwhelmed at 20 minutes,
[05:28:52] you're just gonna lose.
[05:28:53] Otherwise their heroes slow down
[05:28:55] and it gets a little bit harder for them to kill.
[05:28:56] So we'll see what happens.
[05:28:58] All right, good luck in the match.
[05:28:59] Thank you.
[05:29:00] Cheers.
[05:29:05] Gateman Gladiators and Team Liquid, two teams who seem to be tied together through a thread of fate.
[05:29:13] Having met every major finals of last year they both failed in the year-end finals to take down team Spirit.
[05:29:20] And after a quiet year for both teams,
[05:29:22] They have powered up and reached a peak just at the right time
[05:29:27] To matchup against each other once again.
[05:29:30] But there is one team who is decidedly unhappy with their lot in this bit of destiny, Avery
[05:29:37] and that has got to be Liquid having lost every single finals against them I'm going to go with the same thing.
[05:29:40] That has got to be liquid
[05:29:42] having lost every single
[05:29:44] finals against gaming
[05:29:46] gladiators, their repeated
[05:29:48] nemesis they just cannot seem to surmount Are they going to be able to do it this time around?
[05:29:51] I mean,
[05:29:52] it's maybe apropos
[05:29:54] that you are asking me
[05:29:55] that as we have been there
[05:29:56] for many of those grand finals
[05:29:58] where they have fallen short.
[05:30:01] We were there for the first one, the worst one perhaps
[05:30:03] when I was a young
[05:30:04] There have been a lot of ugly grand finals
[05:30:06] between these two teams
[05:30:07] and all of them have gone
[05:30:08] one way in the end.
[05:30:10] Some would say second place consistently and dota is a blessing
[05:30:13] i think at this point for liquid it's an absolute curse they are hoping to overcome
[05:30:18] at this point second means nothing it's just another notch on a belt of unsuccessful victories so yet
[05:30:26] they find themselves here again at the summit of this challenge in dota 2
[05:30:31] which is gaming gladiators for them
[05:30:33] trying to overcome all of those past demons
[05:30:36] there are a lot to overcome here as they will venture forth once more into
[05:30:41] a grand finals best-of of five first their nemesis it is certainly going to take
[05:30:47] a lot of mental strength to be able to go up against the same team
[05:30:54] again and again, and still be confident
[05:30:57] and hope that
[05:30:59] you are the better team this time around.
[05:31:00] Especially after they got drowned
[05:31:02] so hard in the upper bracket final.
[05:31:04] I mean, that was not... That was hardly a series.
[05:31:07] Game of Gladiators just had the freest walk to the grand finals
[05:31:10] than I think they've had the entirety of last year.
[05:31:13] They have made so many grand finals.
[05:31:15] But this one looked the easiest for them.
[05:31:17] Yeah that was one of those BO3s you play
[05:31:19] there's two games and then you got 3-0'd in it
[05:31:21] That was a rough one
[05:31:22] Yeah that's a loss that carried over into another series on another day
[05:31:25] Liquid did strike back earlier today That's a loss that carried over into another series on another day.
[05:31:27] Liquid did strike back earlier today,
[05:31:29] found their groove again.
[05:31:31] This is a team that wants to play fast,
[05:31:32] wants to accelerate that early game and they're up against the other team
[05:31:35] that has done it the most successfully in the tournament.
[05:31:38] That's going to be a real test again if they
[05:31:39] can adapt from that upper
[05:31:41] bracket final, learn from it, improve, adjust
[05:31:43] the drafts, adjust the laning because
[05:31:45] if we go back to that series which you know, we're gonna
[05:31:48] maybe hype up the tension
[05:31:50] very quickly here. That series
[05:31:52] was about the lane change. The first 10
[05:31:54] minutes for Liquid. Can you survive
[05:31:56] it? Yep. I don't want to start this series with can you survive it yep i don't want to start the series with kenyu who destroyed gaiman in that
[05:32:00] because you were nowhere close in those two games in a lot of those games you got outplayed on
[05:32:06] the side lanes on a support on support level and then some of them you just got cheplayed on the side lanes on support level. And in some of them
[05:32:09] you just got cheesed out in those lanes. I go back
[05:32:11] to like the Dazzle pick versus the Ember mid
[05:32:13] That lane did not exist for Nisha
[05:32:15] I don't care how good Nisha is if you put
[05:32:17] him in a position like that, there's nothing he can do about it
[05:32:20] so you have to adjust the drafts here
[05:32:22] for Liquid to be able to combat what
[05:32:24] Gaiman are throwing at you in the laning phase and you have
[05:32:26] to up the quality of play so that you don't
[05:32:28] give away those free random support kills on the map. You know,
[05:32:31] you can't be 0-3 or 0-4 on your two supports here if you're liquid at 10 minutes
[05:32:34] and expect to combat that death ball that Blitz was talking about. Yeah, and we heard
[05:32:38] the panel talk about it, we heard the coach of Tundra Moonmeater talk about it, and we heard the panel talk about it. We heard the coach of Tundra, Moonneater,
[05:32:41] talk about it,
[05:32:42] and we heard Blitz himself.
[05:32:43] It seemed like everybody is aligned
[05:32:45] that Team Liquid did draft themselves
[05:32:47] a better focus on the early game,
[05:32:50] a better focus on the lanes in, a better focus on the lanes.
[05:32:51] In particular, it seems that this safe lane of theirs,
[05:32:55] people seem to think that it's going to go well.
[05:32:57] I'm not going to say it's going to go well
[05:32:59] just because again,
[05:33:00] it's getting gladiators
[05:33:00] but Monkey King Crystal Maiden, are you happy
[05:33:03] with that setup
[05:33:04] against what Game of Gladiators have right now?
[05:33:07] Before I talk about that, I just want to say we're at a point
[05:33:09] in Dota history where your forward position can be
[05:33:11] a boots-first morphling and you're not going to get mass reported.
[05:33:13] Let's just take a moment to respect
[05:33:15] how far we've come in the
[05:33:17] Dota universe that that is a thing
[05:33:19] that does not get you put in low priority here.
[05:33:21] Instead it puts you in a grand final. That's right! Never thought I'd
[05:33:24] see the day. Dota truly is a
[05:33:26] beautiful game that is always changing
[05:33:28] and...
[05:33:29] In fact, I think I did do this a couple
[05:33:32] years ago, and I got reported for it. Maybe I was just ahead
[05:33:35] of the curve. Sure, you can tell yourself
[05:33:37] that. But I will say this Boxy Morphling has been
[05:33:39] a go-to for them over
[05:33:41] the course of this event and I'm excited to see what he
[05:33:42] can do with it here because he has some really good spells to steal.
[05:33:46] Particularly from that Jakiro, the Beastmaster,
[05:33:48] even Invoker can throw out
[05:33:50] some of these Quaswex spells early on in the game.
[05:33:52] He's my go-to player for Liquid
[05:33:54] to build the momentum and keep them in this early game.
[05:33:57] You were talking about the Monkey CM lane,
[05:33:58] I think Lucky is going to be a point of contention here
[05:34:01] between these two teams,
[05:34:03] particularly if the Monkey King goes off
[05:34:04] to a good start in this game 1 because he is
[05:34:07] a hero that can dominate the laning phase.
[05:34:09] Very resilient against a lot
[05:34:11] of the meta offlaners that are these big
[05:34:13] bruisers, they're just melee heroes
[05:34:14] sacks of meat you can get the Jingu stacks up on
[05:34:17] Great matchup for the Monkey King
[05:34:19] and he's a hero that takes that lane advantage
[05:34:21] and translates it into early map control
[05:34:23] by making some of the fastest rotations
[05:34:25] available for any carry.
[05:34:28] Really good gate rotations.
[05:34:30] You can make it off to Jingu,
[05:34:32] so he just snowballs from kill-to-kill-to-kill.
[05:34:35] It is a really nice hero to have in this game 1 for Liquid because in theory it gives you a lot of pace,
[05:34:37] guarantees a good lane for mid-gate, and that's exactly what you a lot of pace. Guarantees a good lane for Mikkei and that's
[05:34:38] exactly what you're looking for out of this carry role.
[05:34:41] Yeah, if Durantio's hero
[05:34:42] this sort of any way is Chaos Knight
[05:34:45] I feel like Mikkei has got to be
[05:34:46] Monkey King. So we'll see if he is able to put it to work here,
[05:34:49] 33 is always limping back
[05:34:51] to his tier 1 tower. Duraccio
[05:34:53] is just non-stop
[05:34:55] when it comes to the pressure on this offlaner
[05:34:57] We talked about the importance of being able to win your lanes,
[05:35:00] it's very interesting to me that 33
[05:35:01] opted for the facet
[05:35:03] that is much weaker in the laning
[05:35:06] phase. He opts for
[05:35:07] Brilleater which is a type hunter start where you are much weaker as an offlaner
[05:35:14] and by the time you get to level 10 that your been to even stats have
[05:35:18] been from there on out tidehunter is stronger than normal.
[05:35:20] But I would have expected much like other Tidehunters of this tournament
[05:35:24] for him to have gone for the other facet that builds up your Krakenshell
[05:35:27] Maybe he's just that confident in his matchups in this game
[05:35:30] In theory Tide is very good
[05:35:32] with the Kraken Shell versus the Brood
[05:35:33] and some of the other summons that Gaiman are presenting
[05:35:36] through the Chen and the Beast. Though I will say
[05:35:38] Beast as a summons hero...
[05:35:40] I don't know about that one, right? Like yeah you have boars but this hero's
[05:35:43] all about the axes, the boar and
[05:35:44] the ag buildup so I think that matchup
[05:35:47] is not nearly as good for Tide as it used to be
[05:35:48] but it's definitely a hero that can slow the game
[05:35:51] down and defend your power.
[05:35:53] That's what you're going to look to do with it here,
[05:35:55] so if that time gets through the early game, then the extra scale from the Krill Eater
[05:35:57] could compound here.
[05:36:00] Plus, you scale the model size
[05:36:01] in that league.
[05:36:02] That just feels good, right? Who doesn't love a big boy Plus you scale the model size.
[05:36:04] That just feels good, right? That's true! Who doesn't love a big boy?
[05:36:07] Well Quinn seems to be doing quite well for himself in the mid lane
[05:36:10] Misha really tried to put the screws through him early
[05:36:13] He saw a lot of early harassment chased down
[05:36:15] in lanes, but ultimately the Klaus
[05:36:17] Invoker has been able to regen up
[05:36:19] and stay above and beating
[05:36:21] him now in CS. So
[05:36:23] could be adding
[05:36:25] another hero
[05:36:25] to the pool
[05:36:26] and any counter
[05:36:27] to Pango
[05:36:27] at this point
[05:36:28] is going to
[05:36:29] be a godsend
[05:36:30] for a best of five
[05:36:31] right?
[05:36:31] If you're sitting
[05:36:31] in the drafting
[05:36:32] pool
[05:36:32] you're thinking
[05:36:33] about okay
[05:36:34] what do you got to deal with pango especially after
[05:36:36] watching that lower bracket game and pulling ahead on three lanes here doing quite well
[05:36:42] and double rule on this bottom lane the assassins out in force today now i would not mention
[05:36:49] i would mention these for low reasons of course but i would also mention that this is
[05:36:53] some stacking regen reduction with the Necrotic Webs down here.
[05:36:57] Yes, it is! Like there was a point where 33
[05:36:59] had.9 regen
[05:37:01] on this lane getting picked by
[05:37:03] the Vool and in the Web.
[05:37:05] Just no extra sustain down here for this Tidehunter.
[05:37:09] He's getting his mana burned from
[05:37:10] the Satyr Creek, getting his regen reduced from
[05:37:12] the Brule and the Necrotic Web. This is
[05:37:14] not a fun lane for 33
[05:37:16] just trying to survive it right now. And of course the 4th position,
[05:37:18] Morphling, I mean he's a mid-game payoff hero
[05:37:21] not really known for his lane prowess.
[05:37:24] Liquid just trying
[05:37:24] to get as much out of this as they can
[05:37:26] and as Gaiman makes their first rotation, they're going to head mid with the Jakiro
[05:37:29] secure the power and take it away from Nisha
[05:37:31] who will need a bottle refill off
[05:37:33] that Crystal Maiden neutral creep suicide
[05:37:35] Insania
[05:37:37] he already knew that they were not going to win that rune.
[05:37:40] So he preemptively killed himself.
[05:37:44] Threw himself
[05:37:45] to the neutrals
[05:37:46] and TP's mid refilled
[05:37:48] Nisha's bottle. Yeah I mean if the safe lane
[05:37:51] when it comes to safe
[05:37:53] lanes liquid being you know trying
[05:37:54] to focus on making sure you don't lose lanes
[05:37:56] and some early aggression, the off
[05:37:59] lane is the antithesis of that for Liquid.
[05:38:02] A krill eater
[05:38:03] Tidehunter and a four position Warpflake
[05:38:05] They better hope this safe lane
[05:38:08] is able to pay out
[05:38:10] and it's not right now.
[05:38:11] It was going well early.
[05:38:13] The rotation comes down from Celery though as the Chen
[05:38:16] and they are gonna take this tower very, very early.
[05:38:19] They cannot do anything to mirror this pressure. The Broodmother is still
[05:38:23] free farming. An uncontested move
[05:38:25] off the Chen for Celery, and we saw
[05:38:27] this in a lot of those other games her game, that if the Chen gets
[05:38:29] off a few of these rotations at
[05:38:31] work, suddenly he's level five or six earlier
[05:38:33] than you want and the snowball just starts to escalate
[05:38:36] incredibly fast. That is a very fast tier one that just went completely
[05:38:40] uncontested on a lane that Liquid I think were
[05:38:42] hoping to dominate a bit more
[05:38:44] here, didn't get any of the early kills
[05:38:46] out of it. You didn't get any extra XP for this
[05:38:48] Crystal Maiden who invested a lot of resources
[05:38:50] on the lane. You're looking at that net worth
[05:38:52] for the Maiden right now in Unsenia
[05:38:53] That is regen investment to try looking at that net worth for the Maiden right now on Insania. You know, that
[05:38:55] is regen investment to try and get a payoff
[05:38:56] on the Monkey King. Just didn't happen there.
[05:38:59] Now he is going to be a creep on the map.
[05:39:02] Gaming can now
[05:39:03] look to make this rotation into mid whenever they want.
[05:39:05] Burn out some of the Pangolier's mana, maybe backstab
[05:39:08] with the Beastmaster Chen army.
[05:39:10] So the next move Liquid are going to have to think about
[05:39:11] in this game. We would love to have Rolling Thunder
[05:39:13] and Ravage up for these tower defenses
[05:39:16] those are long cooldowns however so you cannot waste them in a game like this as
[05:39:20] gaming are going to up the tempo up the pace
[05:39:22] the scan will connect so look they're gonna bring reinforcements
[05:39:27] more plays gonna be first one in
[05:39:29] and they are gonna go for the kill on Quinn
[05:39:31] trying to hit him, shield crash burns out most of
[05:39:33] mana, they still have some to go but look at this stun
[05:39:35] raining from the Golem stopping Nisha he just can at the stuns raining in from the Golems stopping Nisha.
[05:39:36] He just can't opt between the Cold Snap and the Golems get off that Rolling Thunder.
[05:39:41] So the team fight spell is missing.
[05:39:43] Extra armor here on Quinn.
[05:39:44] He's getting Frost Armored plus divine favor this invoker is
[05:39:50] not squishy at all and you are now committing in still the rolling thunder
[05:39:54] try it again cold snap stopping him time and time again. Quinn keeps on...
[05:39:59] ...replinking Nisha's attempts to get aggressive,
[05:40:01] Nisha's a big-time trouble,
[05:40:03] turns around gets off the shield crash, now gets off
[05:40:05] the rolling thunder he has the shield for a little bit
[05:40:07] it's just a bit stronger, maybe enough to be able
[05:40:09] to help get that kill onto Quinn who goes invisible
[05:40:11] Oh, Primal Roar bounces over
[05:40:13] on Nisha, slowing him down! The axe is cut
[05:40:15] him down! Ace gets the first blood and looks
[05:40:17] for second as yeah he's to get Insani as well.
[05:40:20] That is a well-timed
[05:40:22] show up there from Ace.
[05:40:24] Absolutely on point there.
[05:40:26] That was a nice turnaround from Nisha
[05:40:27] using that extra shield but and ace turns up exactly when game and need to
[05:40:34] turn the title in this fight and again it points to how tanky this invoker was in the early exchanges
[05:40:38] he's getting extra light steel off the new Quas. You're getting armored up
[05:40:41] from these back-end supports.
[05:40:43] It just takes so long and so much for Liquid
[05:40:45] to commit on him there.
[05:40:47] Ace is able to come in and collect two,
[05:40:49] and that first blood suddenly is Beastmaster very far
[05:40:52] ahead of everybody else in this game.
[05:40:54] Well, he didn't win the lane so you're not winning
[05:40:56] the skirmishes. Nice push back there with
[05:40:58] Hurricane from Celery. He has been
[05:41:00] quite the nuisance with that neutral creep specifically.
[05:41:03] Now it feels like the next step
[05:41:04] for Liquid is, when are you
[05:41:07] going to be able to use your Ravage? And how
[05:41:09] successful? Because 33
[05:41:10] is not having fun in this bottom lane.
[05:41:13] He is getting sunk far,
[05:41:15] but very little compared to what Daraji was able
[05:41:18] to get out of it.
[05:41:19] And he's matched up against an Invoker, right?
[05:41:21] Which is a hero that can be really obnoxious
[05:41:23] for a type hunter when it comes to that manner.
[05:41:26] This is starting to look like
[05:41:27] that upper bracket series.
[05:41:29] Just a tad bit falling behind on the lanes
[05:41:31] and there's no easy moves to make here. Your supports are too low
[05:41:35] damage to bring down Quinn. I think
[05:41:37] it's scarier, the fact that
[05:41:38] they're doing this, they're taking this pace
[05:41:41] while this game had the slowest
[05:41:43] first blood.
[05:41:44] You know, so it's not like they're doing it through kills
[05:41:46] They're just getting that kind of lead
[05:41:49] mostly through lane attrition
[05:41:51] I mean, Gaemons don't need to get kills
[05:41:53] to win these early games
[05:41:54] Their idea is about
[05:41:55] the longevity of the lane,
[05:41:57] how that favors your core matchups
[05:41:59] and what your supports can do
[05:42:00] on the map
[05:42:01] in terms of rotations, right?
[05:42:02] What are these room clashes
[05:42:04] look like when they go 3v3 mid? What happens when the
[05:42:07] sidelaners get left in a vacuum and one-on-one?
[05:42:09] Those are the instances where they win
[05:42:11] these early games, can't pull net worth advantage
[05:42:13] out of thin air. And right now,
[05:42:15] Liquid are facing some of those same issues.
[05:42:16] The Tide can't stand against the Brood with a single Chikiro rotation.
[05:42:20] This Monkey King was unable to stand top against the Beastmaster
[05:42:23] and this just opens up all the rotations in the mid.
[05:42:26] Playing around a Hero and an invoker that Liquid
[05:42:28] don't have a lot of gap pose for.
[05:42:30] The problems are mounting here
[05:42:32] this is another smoke to defend a tower
[05:42:34] that's already gone.
[05:42:36] Where do you go from here if your Liquid down 6k, haven't even gotten a kill?
[05:42:40] And you know they're gonna feel the pressure right now because
[05:42:43] They've been here before.
[05:42:45] Yeah.
[05:42:46] They were here yesterday.
[05:42:47] They know that next step for Gaming Gliators is getting the auras.
[05:42:49] So they better find a team fight soon, otherwise those team fights are just going to get harder and harder.
[05:42:53] And St1gen managed to hit a good Rolling Thunder set up for the kill on Tofu.
[05:42:56] Going to look for more as well.
[05:42:58] Celery being
[05:43:00] harassed here. Ace is gonna cut over though, might be able to
[05:43:02] help out and get a kill onto CrystalMain. Shield crash
[05:43:04] does manage to finish off Chen before the Tornado comes
[05:43:06] in. Nice Centaur stomp though.
[05:43:09] Vessel used onto
[05:43:10] the pango, have to drop the ravage
[05:43:12] to try and bail Nisha out. It still may not be
[05:43:15] enough. He has a shield crash, he has a
[05:43:16] swashbuckle. He's gonna
[05:43:18] jump, and the axe, not quite getting there but
[05:43:21] he is running, running, running.
[05:43:23] Duraccio is chasing a rock coming
[05:43:25] forward for spiders
[05:43:27] and Nisha's just gonna die. There's something
[05:43:29] you can do about this anymore tarantula runs halfway across the map to chase down nisha
[05:43:35] just man just did a net marathon from bottom jungle area
[05:43:40] so that fight threw a ravage and still finds his mark i don't know if that was
[05:43:45] a net worth positive kill for the brood but he's certainly wealthy so it doesn't matter here
[05:43:50] amicia's game is just shot at this point. There's no item
[05:43:53] progression. This is
[05:43:55] one of those things where you go team, like
[05:43:57] there's a safe lane druid, right?
[05:44:00] The way I can see
[05:44:01] help up here! Please!
[05:44:03] And also
[05:44:04] the first
[05:44:04] Ravage
[05:44:05] used to
[05:44:06] try and
[05:44:07] save Nisha
[05:44:07] didn't even
[05:44:09] work out.
[05:44:10] So,
[05:44:11] the idea
[05:44:11] that the
[05:44:12] panel had
[05:44:12] was this
[05:44:12] Tidehunter
[05:44:13] was going
[05:44:13] to be able to sit in front of these bushes
[05:44:15] coming from Game and Gladiators.
[05:44:17] It has not protected any towers,
[05:44:19] the first Ravage isn't working
[05:44:21] now Zerachios tearing the Tidehunter
[05:44:23] a new one man.
[05:44:27] Crack and Shell doing nothing for you against the high damage of the Broodmother at this point.
[05:44:31] This Tidehunter is turning into
[05:44:32] a big liability right now.
[05:44:33] You cannot stand and defend your towers with the early
[05:44:36] Kraken Shell Anchor Smash, then he's
[05:44:38] just waiting for Ravage cooldown. And Ravage
[05:44:40] is not the spell it used to be. It's
[05:44:42] not dealing damage, it's just a minor slowdown
[05:44:44] here. A stone on the pathway to victory for
[05:44:47] Gaming right now as they build
[05:44:49] 7k network lead and they're still farming up
[05:44:51] Ancient Statues of Ace who, by the way
[05:44:53] already finished that Aghs
[05:44:55] so Roshan is completely open as well here,
[05:44:57] and I don't think there's any world you're contesting
[05:44:59] out of your liquid. You have to just look for some pick-offs right now.
[05:45:02] We've just
[05:45:03] missed a big one as...
[05:45:05] I mean, Ace's game is just so fast. He just TP'd to go
[05:45:08] do Roshan. Like this game failed
[05:45:10] because the man is too wealthy.
[05:45:12] I was going to say, I was like, is he going to wait for Direside
[05:45:14] Roshan? No. He's got the axe.
[05:45:16] He's going to just do it right now,
[05:45:18] and I'm looking at this dank team of Crystal Maiden Pango normally.
[05:45:23] There's plenty of damage between the two,
[05:45:25] but they are so under farmed,
[05:45:27] and I question whether or not they'd be able to find a kill they'll steal
[05:45:30] a wisdom round with this or something i mean that's really nice for boxy you get some extra
[05:45:35] experience here hero needs the levels
[05:45:45] rolling thunder does go off just in time the ice pack
[05:45:53] just a half a second too late nisha survives but that's all he's doing surviving he is not gaining anything
[05:45:57] the game of gladiators is gaining a network lead that is growing and growing and now having ages to work with for the next five minutes.
[05:46:01] I will say this has to be one of the more impressive
[05:46:04] Rude Mother carry rotation-based games
[05:46:08] I've ever seen.
[05:46:09] Like, Dorachio has been in all three lanes pre-15
[05:46:12] minutes and impacted them. All of
[05:46:14] them at certain points. He's just been
[05:46:16] everywhere. And his farm is insane right
[05:46:18] now. They've been unable to touch him.
[05:46:20] And I feel like he's supposed
[05:46:22] to be countered a bit, right?
[05:46:23] With the pango and monkey king
[05:46:24] you have some spells that can
[05:46:26] be thrown out to easily clear
[05:46:28] through spiders. 33 crawling
[05:46:30] back trying to get back to his
[05:46:31] tier 2 gets met with three
[05:46:33] heroes from Game of Gladiators. More souls
[05:46:37] for the vessel here as Quinn will happily collect them.
[05:46:41] No lack of charges in this game for Quinn.
[05:46:44] You gotta muster a fight soon if you're Liquid here,
[05:46:47] just to stabilize the map.
[05:46:50] Boop up makes something happen
[05:46:52] and Quinn from bottom TP's mid
[05:46:54] And immediately goes through the gank on Poxy makes something happen and quinn from bottom tp smith
[05:46:57] and immediately goes for the game on foxy fox he's trying to get into the poker and try to ghost walk away but this injury is already there in place a three-man gank does
[05:47:01] kill dorachio though that is a much bigger kill than honestly the tide and the morphling combined oh
[05:47:07] yeah 100 it is worth a lot of gold here early almost about that though vika just got that
[05:47:13] kill and dies immediately to sun strike will add the extra bit of damage
[05:47:16] required, no chance at escape
[05:47:18] for Mikke.
[05:47:19] That is not a super high damage Sunstrike
[05:47:22] but the extra 200 is enough to push it over
[05:47:24] the edge.
[05:47:25] To make sure they get this pick hundred is enough to push it over the edge. Use the rolling thunder
[05:47:26] to make sure they get this pick off as
[05:47:29] it appears. Now, there's no
[05:47:30] ults here from...
[05:47:33] He's just like, ah, sorry bro, I can't even save you.
[05:47:35] I'm not even gonna try. If I do stick around, decent chance that
[05:47:38] I'm going to get killed by a tornado.
[05:47:41] Ace is just absolutely out of control
[05:47:43] in this game.
[05:47:44] Managed to find a really nice pickup on Dorachio
[05:47:46] but he's just going to be straight back at it.
[05:47:49] You have
[05:47:50] to be able to stand alone for some of these heroes
[05:47:52] that control the map and Liquid are struggling.
[05:47:56] Game
[05:47:56] and Smoke continue to just run back
[05:47:59] And forth, close out the lanes
[05:48:01] Find the ganks
[05:48:05] Well, the Tidehunter is level 10
[05:48:07] This is where the Krill krill eater starts hanging off of the extra strength
[05:48:11] game that you get so from here on out it is a bonus but we're still down 10k.
[05:48:26] The push is for Quinn, so he wants to make sure that they'll continue the scale up though we'll see if that mightas actually comes to fruition here,
[05:48:31] because this could be a game of gladiators
[05:48:32] closing out game 25 minutes sort of deal.
[05:48:35] I think Midas on Invoker is a lot about the
[05:48:36] levels too. Even if this gold
[05:48:38] never pays off, it'll pay off in terms of
[05:48:41] better spells in the fight.
[05:48:45] And he's not under a lot
[05:48:46] of pressure right now
[05:48:47] as Liquid just don't have
[05:48:48] the gap code to get on top
[05:48:50] of Invoker and start on him.
[05:48:52] These cores
[05:48:52] have just been
[05:48:53] swarming back.
[05:48:55] Xenia pops
[05:48:56] a healing salve
[05:48:57] it's a slow hero
[05:48:57] though
[05:48:58] I imagine
[05:48:59] they'll catch
[05:49:00] him eventually
[05:49:00] he has to reveal his position.
[05:49:03] Not a fun game to be a Crystal Maiden anymore.
[05:49:07] Nope, and while they're chasing you around, Jiracha's taking the mid-tier too
[05:49:10] And they can go high ground to force Uli back.
[05:49:12] They are going highground ground this is not a team that
[05:49:15] is afraid of hope you can even come in for rats if you miss step here
[05:49:20] they still have this ages up on the beast.
[05:49:24] That is how fast his last four minutes have been.
[05:49:26] Yeah, you normally see like second
[05:49:28] Aegis be the timing
[05:49:30] to hit high ground and take a lane of Barracks.
[05:49:32] Gaming Gladiator is doing one.
[05:49:35] They're playing so fast right now.
[05:49:37] Liquid have not had
[05:49:39] a single break this entire game
[05:49:41] they are going to lose this tier 3
[05:49:43] at 18 minutes, potentially.
[05:49:45] Ace jumps forward, goes for the quick kill onto the crystal maiden.
[05:49:48] Bramallor used to have the strength to push forward from the drum-speeding ace.
[05:49:53] Nobody can really get close to him for now, but maybe he's overextended himself.
[05:49:57] Flink in with the Rolling Thunder and Nisha gets stuck! That's not good!
[05:50:00] Roll up goes back to the Beastmaster. 30 seconds left on the Aegis.
[05:50:04] They are all committed to kill this Beastmaster.
[05:50:07] Can they get him twice though?
[05:50:09] A fire and NickNate down to half HP hits the Ravage onto the Beastmasters
[05:50:13] see if he can pop them. He gets off a round of axes, way for through it
[05:50:16] still ult not quite enough. A boundless strike, way for him through it. Still not quite enough.
[05:50:17] A boundless strike.
[05:50:17] A little more damage is required but they've ran out!
[05:50:20] Liquid have nothing left in the tank.
[05:50:22] They will lose two of their cores.
[05:50:24] They will lose a lane of barracks
[05:50:25] and they will lose the kill on the Beastmaster.
[05:50:28] Just too tanky, you have Chen with Divine Favor
[05:50:31] You have the mech already up
[05:50:34] You have Disruption coming through
[05:50:36] The drums add up and
[05:50:38] Blitz mentioned you have to get through
[05:50:40] this 20 minute death ball timing
[05:50:42] Well, this was an 18 minute
[05:50:44] death ball timing and Liquid did not
[05:50:46] pass the first test here
[05:50:48] I mean how many times and Liquid did not pass the first test here.
[05:50:49] I mean, how many times...
[05:50:53] get stuck in the same 20-minute window here?
[05:50:57] Gaming Gladiators is just so good at it, man.
[05:51:00] They demolished every team
[05:51:01] at this tournament the same
[05:51:04] way nobody is able to do
[05:51:06] it quite like they do
[05:51:07] and they're proving it once again in game one of the grand finals
[05:51:13] no reason to stop now you don't have to ravage you don't have the wukong Kong.
[05:51:23] Aegis! That's the one downside here for Gaiman,
[05:51:25] can't just bait that beast on the frontline as much anymore and
[05:51:29] no reason to throw a fight either.
[05:51:31] Four buildings they took with that Aegis.
[05:51:34] That is a healthy,
[05:51:36] healthy fast pace
[05:51:37] for David Gladiators.
[05:51:39] Just what they're known for.
[05:51:41] It's just so much gold
[05:51:42] for the team overall,
[05:51:43] like these supports
[05:51:44] are insanely rich.
[05:51:46] This Chen is ahead
[05:51:47] of the Tide Hunter.
[05:51:48] He is going to maybe
[05:51:49] have them...
[05:51:50] I mean he's going
[05:51:51] to pipe at almost
[05:51:52] the same time this T Ty got it up.
[05:51:54] Yeah and that's for what it is used for here.
[05:51:58] You get caught on some of these big cores you're just gonna lose another lane of racks.
[05:52:04] What a dodge.
[05:52:06] He's got a... 33's got
[05:52:07] Wraith Bands queued up.
[05:52:10] He's trying to hit that 25 minute
[05:52:12] armor timing.
[05:52:13] He did this in one of their other games too
[05:52:15] just for the base defense.
[05:52:17] I mean, it is efficient
[05:52:18] when you're stuck in these situations but
[05:52:21] it is not something
[05:52:22] you want to have to do here. It is a Hail Mary for sure.
[05:52:26] A lot of gold
[05:52:27] just to try and give
[05:52:29] you some base stats to survive
[05:52:31] a little longer.
[05:52:34] Tormentors, Roshans, Tier 3s, Barracks, Liquid Space.
[05:52:39] It's all free for Game of Gladiators
[05:52:41] or at least that is what it feels like
[05:52:42] with a score of 13-4 and 18,000 net worth lead.
[05:52:46] They are topping out the board in all
[05:52:49] the metrics right now.
[05:52:50] And Liquid can't really
[05:52:52] go out on the map anyway.
[05:52:55] If they do
[05:52:55] that's where the Invoker comes in weapon. If they do,
[05:52:57] that's where the Invoker comes in.
[05:53:00] One of the heroes that is best
[05:53:01] at being able to hunt around the map
[05:53:03] when going for the boots and travels with the extra bit
[05:53:05] of mobility but it's not him
[05:53:07] who's going to
[05:53:07] find the opening.
[05:53:08] It's Ace.
[05:53:09] Got the Primal Roar
[05:53:10] killed for Nisha.
[05:53:12] Horacio joins
[05:53:13] alongside
[05:53:13] to see if there's
[05:53:14] any other Liquid
[05:53:15] heroes lurking about.
[05:53:16] Just too easy
[05:53:17] right now.
[05:53:18] Absolutely too easy here for gaming.
[05:53:21] The BKBs are just finishing up,
[05:53:23] the Broods arrives,
[05:53:24] the Beast was already done.
[05:53:26] You have nothing to get through BK not if not this early into the game
[05:53:31] you don't have the physical damage these are as good as ages yeah
[05:53:36] you might just go high ground top lane here you can get that wave to liquid space and also
[05:53:42] just keep crossing the map i mean every one of these cross-map smokes has worked out for gaming
[05:53:46] so far yes they know the monkey they
[05:53:49] know where mickey is going to be right
[05:53:51] now
[05:53:51] they've already pinged it out you know
[05:53:53] he's playing on the opposite side of
[05:53:55] the map
[05:53:55] wants to give him nothing
[05:53:58] man doesn't want to just end this game
[05:54:00] he wants to make it miserable for Liquid right now.
[05:54:03] Blinks forward!
[05:54:06] Oh, if he didn't blink forward,
[05:54:08] Nikkei was actually through that little area of trees.
[05:54:12] It still gets map
[05:54:13] control, it gets the
[05:54:14] lanes in.
[05:54:14] Yeah, it gets
[05:54:15] the monkey back,
[05:54:16] right?
[05:54:16] I mean you finish up
[05:54:17] with a BKB for
[05:54:17] the monkey.
[05:54:18] That is the best
[05:54:19] item Liquid are
[05:54:20] going to get here
[05:54:20] maybe ever in this game if you can't win a fight with it
[05:54:25] and they will smoke out look for something look for that clutch pick off it would be
[05:54:29] amazing if they find arachio here even just getting the bkb out of him would buy some time
[05:54:34] especially with roshan up right now you have to start on him with rolling blink rolling thunder
[05:54:40] it's your only initiation tool right now. Yeah, and then you probably have to
[05:54:44] Ravage Chain into another Rolling Thunder hit?
[05:54:46] It's so awkward
[05:54:48] You just don't have the Blink Tidehunter
[05:54:50] Makes all these plays
[05:54:52] Feel impossible all these plays feel impossible.
[05:54:58] I would say missed opportunity,
[05:55:01] but there really wasn't one, as you said without the blink.
[05:55:02] Going towards Roshan number two here at 23 and a half minutes done so early.
[05:55:09] They still have their safe lane tower up,
[05:55:11] so it is extremely well protected.
[05:55:13] Not something Liquid is
[05:55:16] really has a prayer of winning
[05:55:18] this fight
[05:55:19] at best you could say maybe
[05:55:22] if they were somehow in the perfect position
[05:55:24] they could steal away the Aegis.
[05:55:26] They do want an AoE for their hits.
[05:55:29] This might be your best chance to win a fight
[05:55:30] in this game as opposed to the high ground.
[05:55:32] Quinn sees him coming.
[05:55:34] Dorachio is going to stay alone inside the pit,
[05:55:36] try and finish up a Roshan
[05:55:38] Liquid's gonna be here too late
[05:55:39] Mage has already picked up
[05:55:40] They're in position
[05:55:42] This is not good
[05:55:43] Liquid has no way out of this one
[05:55:44] so they just have to commit
[05:55:46] They are gonna go for Quinn here first, hit him with the Rolling Thunder
[05:55:48] not too bad but with the Bunky
[05:55:50] gone there goes most of their damage
[05:55:52] they've thrown a Ravage and a Rolling Thunder
[05:55:54] and everything they had to be able to kill Quinn
[05:55:56] they are struggling to get it! The pipe is keeping them alive.
[05:55:59] They run out of damage for the second time,
[05:56:01] and before the fight is even done,
[05:56:03] the fight is done in liquid, they call it,
[05:56:05] in day one.
[05:56:07] Well, the question of have they figured something
[05:56:09] out from those previous two games
[05:56:11] I think has been answered here
[05:56:13] not much as the story
[05:56:15] continues to be the same
[05:56:17] just absolute domination Something about this
[05:56:20] matchup plagues Liquid consistently
[05:56:22] and man
[05:56:24] damn it, they look so confident
[05:56:26] so personal in this team
[05:56:28] This might have been one of the faster, smoother games we've seen from them
[05:56:31] all tournament which says something because they've
[05:56:33] been playing at quite a rapid pace but
[05:56:34] the brute rotations out of D'Arachio
[05:56:36] the TP mid from Ace on the Beastmaster
[05:56:39] at the exact right point in time. The target prioritization,
[05:56:42] everything in this game was just
[05:56:43] exactly on point. You get the
[05:56:45] Aghs on beast, instant TP to Rose, dodge
[05:56:47] the smoke gank, you get an Aegis, you go
[05:56:49] high ground with it, you bait out your Aegis carrier. The formation
[05:56:52] is correct going high ground. There were
[05:56:54] almost no mistakes in this game one from
[05:56:56] Gaming Gliders. Very little to take advantage
[05:56:58] of and I still go back
[05:57:00] and back again to the two core problems in this matchup for Liquid, which are one your cores need to be able to stand on the lane.
[05:57:05] They were unable to do that into your supports have to find some early game momentum whether it's dual roaming-laning making their early game weird
[05:57:13] something needs to be shaken up here because this
[05:57:15] Morphling made absolutely nothing in the
[05:57:17] first 15 minutes. The 10th win
[05:57:19] for Game of Gladiators against Liquid
[05:57:21] in LAN finals. A great start
[05:57:24] to a best of five and one
[05:57:26] of the biggest tournaments of the year
[05:57:28] And, a really rough one for
[05:57:30] Liquid as they are now 0-3
[05:57:32] in playoffs this tournament against Game of Gladiators.
[05:57:36] They're in a hole, no doubt about it.
[05:57:38] Strategically speaking they have to have more.
[05:57:42] They thought about this matchup a lot, but this was a poor first step for Liquid.
[05:57:47] No doubt looks the same as it was in Game 1 of the Upper Bracket Finals and
[05:57:52] Game 2 of the Upper Bracket Finals just looking for a bit of difference
[05:57:58] and the issue is you don't have much to go on because like
[05:58:02] if your liquid what do you learn from this game oh they can beat us
[05:58:07] you don't see it over and over again don't learn anything that's the problem
[05:58:11] it's just all on you gaming are not going to change
[05:58:13] they're not going to suddenly pick different heroes they're not going to
[05:58:15] play a different way all you're learning is you're not good to suddenly pick different heroes. They're not gonna play a different way.
[05:58:16] All you're learning is, you're not good enough.
[05:58:18] Like when it comes to this matchup, right?
[05:58:20] This Monkey King Crystal Maiden
[05:58:21] we weren't good enough to be able
[05:58:22] to win that match up Liquid.
[05:58:24] We got to change something panel.
[05:58:26] Maybe they have some ideas of what Liquid can do and if you can too.
[05:58:32] I hope that Liquid can come up with
[05:58:34] some ideas but let's see if Fear has some ideas, because Fear I really thought
[05:58:39] this first game was not going to be a repeat of yesterday
[05:58:42] but it kind of felt like it was.
[05:58:44] Yeah and I think it is going to go a lot
[05:58:46] to the First Face bans
[05:58:47] they ended up banning The Weaver
[05:58:48] The Hoodwink The Snapfire then they took the Deku to the first phase bans. They ended up banning The Weaver,
[05:58:48] The Hoodwinked,
[05:58:49] The Snapfire
[05:58:50] and then they took
[05:58:50] The Dekiro
[05:58:51] And I was a little hesitant
[05:58:52] I thought this CM
[05:58:53] Monkey King lane
[05:58:54] would be really good
[05:58:54] versus Beast
[05:58:55] But it turns out
[05:58:56] those four position
[05:58:57] Forks right now
[05:58:58] are what's going
[05:58:58] to carry
[05:58:58] the laning stage. And if Liquid
[05:59:00] have a bad laning stage against Gaming
[05:59:02] Gladiators, it's tough. And we saw that from
[05:59:04] Morphling as well playing position four versus Chen
[05:59:06] with a Tide. It did not go well.
[05:59:08] The counterpick to Invoker on the mid lane as well against a Pango,
[05:59:12] all three lanes went really poorly and moral of the story here
[05:59:15] that cannot happen first game in Gladiators.
[05:59:17] Was there draft issue or do you feel like some lanes should have gone better
[05:59:20] but gaming just outplayed
[05:59:22] Liquid? I think it's a draft issue
[05:59:23] because I think you have absolutely no chance as a Tide
[05:59:25] morph against a Chin and
[05:59:27] the Brood. You have Necrotic Webs reducing
[05:59:29] and then we saw the Vool assassins,
[05:59:31] it's also reduced your region.
[05:59:33] So this Tide every time he got hit
[05:59:34] he couldn't region at all and he just couldn't lane
[05:59:36] and that's a big problem
[05:59:37] because that tide was supposed to be their frontliner.
[05:59:39] All right, that seems like an easy fix Banbrood
[05:59:41] cause it seems like those webs kind of wrecked all the lanes.
[05:59:45] I don't know if just the brood. I think more so the supports, the Ch'in and the Jakiro seem like big problems.
[05:59:51] We had yesterday a similar situation situation i remember sitting on this exact
[05:59:55] stairs talking about maybe it's time to ban chen and enchantress in the second game of that series
[06:00:01] and they ended up doing that but it still didn't work out.
[06:00:04] It's just too many bans at this point, you're gonna have to
[06:00:06] start stealing heroes because unfortunately
[06:00:08] it wasn't enough what they did
[06:00:10] You really have to have a better read on
[06:00:12] how the lanes are going against Gaming against gaming gladiators and liquid
[06:00:14] just wasn't able to get the landing stage down and they really just have to focus on that and
[06:00:18] it's gonna come down to mainly the picks advance a lot of emphasis on the drafts here we're of
[06:00:23] course gonna see the draft of game number two very soon but first we're gonna check in
[06:00:27] with kazu and purge
[06:00:32] hello yes we're here in the crowd a lot of people here and I have
[06:00:36] a question to some of my neighbors
[06:00:38] here. Who is your favorite player
[06:00:40] in Dota 2? FYI
[06:00:44] Maybe. Okay so We have two big Chinese fans here but they are very legendary players
[06:00:51] So I think they're very good answers
[06:00:55] Those are actually my two favorite Chinese players too.
[06:00:57] Do you want my overall favorite player?
[06:00:59] Yes.
[06:01:00] It's you, Kezu.
[06:01:01] That is the false answer.
[06:01:02] The correct answer would have been AmeiBurj.
[06:01:04] Back to you.
[06:01:05] Now please ask the person next to you.
[06:01:09] Are you comfortable?
[06:01:10] What is your favorite player?
[06:01:12] Maybe liquid dismissal OK,
[06:01:14] OK good answer that's fair sir.
[06:01:16] What did you think about the game? Oh Nisha, Okay, okay. That's a good answer. That's fair, that's fair.
[06:01:18] What did you think about the game?
[06:01:19] Woo!
[06:01:20] Nice shot!
[06:01:20] Sorry, I had to bounce in.
[06:01:22] So I think about the game
[06:01:23] it's just a bit of...
[06:01:24] It's a big problem for Liquid.
[06:01:26] We heard also Fear talk
[06:01:27] about that there's maybe
[06:01:28] not enough bans going around,
[06:01:29] because their laning stage they don't really get to even play any Dota.
[06:01:32] So they need to change up something and do it better
[06:01:34] cause in the next game if you don't get out of lanes what are you supposed to do?
[06:01:38] What did you think about 3-3's facet choice?
[06:01:41] Did you see he went the growth one.
[06:01:45] I mean,
[06:01:45] He probably thought that the lane would go better
[06:01:47] To then get a bigger like anchor smash later in the game
[06:01:49] But with how the lanes are going
[06:01:50] maybe it's not correct i don't know if you're gonna lose in 20 minutes be strong early seems
[06:01:57] kind of valuable anyways uh we will be right back after this.
[06:02:01] Thanks for checking in, Kezu.
[06:02:02] Thank you, Parge.
[06:02:04] Before I went pro,
[06:02:05] I was actually inspired by Dendi
[06:02:07] back at TI1 and it was that moment
[06:02:11] with the prestige of a tournament with that big organization back at TI1 and it was that moment,
[06:02:13] that prestige of a tournament with that big of a prize pool what dragged me into Dota.
[06:02:15] A player that inspired me? It was Puppey
[06:02:18] I remember how he watched his replays
[06:02:23] his games...I wanted to be like him.
[06:02:28] A player who inspired me to start Dota was Sumail.
[06:02:31] He just dived under tier 3 on the Storm and he was owning like a boss.
[06:02:37] Before I became Dota2's professional player, my favorite player is Miracle.
[06:02:42] He has always been an idol for me. My biggest fear is Miracle. He's my idol all the time.
[06:02:44] The most profound moment for me
[06:02:46] was when he
[06:02:48] took down Waterman several times.
[06:02:52] Before I went pro in Dota 2
[06:02:55] I think to me at that time it was probably
[06:02:57] Saks and Save
[06:02:59] were the strongest players
[06:03:01] at least mechanically.
[06:03:03] I actually decided to be pro before I even started playing the game.
[06:03:05] It worked! A mischief! What a play!
[06:03:08] I definitely looked up to some players.
[06:03:10] I think it was mostly Kuroky and Puppy.
[06:03:13] I always just really liked watching Puppy and the heroes he played.
[06:03:16] I guess I kind of copied his heroes a little bit, so I always looked up to them a lot.
[06:03:21] They get the block! They get the block!
[06:03:23] He's got a surge but it might be too late. It will be.
[06:03:35] Dendi is really good and Poppy has great leadership.. Oh, this could be a total disaster! Vacuum in! Ravage on everyone!
[06:03:48] The black hole as well.
[06:03:49] Light of Madness turns it around.
[06:03:51] Ravage as well.
[06:03:52] Stolen by Deku.
[06:03:53] Are you kidding me?
[06:03:54] I mean obviously yeah
[06:03:55] I was inspired by Xiao8
[06:03:57] and he's playing these like team fight tempo controller
[06:04:00] and he was playing Enigma
[06:04:05] Now that I'm speaking about it
[06:04:06] I'm realizing that it might even have influenced me more than I realized.
[06:04:18] I was very inspired by people like Zed.
[06:04:22] I was a huge fan of early OG.
[06:04:26] They had more personality, I would say.
[06:04:29] It was easy to cheer for them.
[06:04:39] Our inspiration for me was like Topson and Dale.
[06:04:44] I really liked how Topson played on some heroes, like Walker
[06:04:49] You can find a lot of things in his place there. Coming down Tulsa with the saves! Gets through for them!
[06:05:06] Just trust their instincts and follow your heart.
[06:05:11] Team Spirit have done it!
[06:05:15] They will claim the championship.
[06:05:18] You're worth a lot and you are capable of a lot, so don't give up. Go the distance.
[06:05:26] Can we hear a one-line? So don't give up. Go the distance. Shoot through the Mamba, Sonya!
[06:11:45] Oh my God... so so We'll be right back. so so so so so The so so. uh so so so so ¶¶ so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so Game 1 was a little bit one-sided in favor of Gaming Gladiators. And we know that they can do that,
[06:11:46] We know that they can do that. We know
[06:11:47] that they can play that style. We saw them literally yesterday in this
[06:11:50] same matchup crushing Team Liquid 2-0
[06:11:53] very clean, very fast, very smooth
[06:11:57] We thought Team Liquid learned something from that series and would have adapted. They did adapt, they did change things up but the result was still the same.
[06:12:06] They need bigger changes to see what needs to happen for liquid to have a shot in this
[06:12:12] grand finals against these monsters of players from gaming gladiators i was combing through
[06:12:17] like yesterday's series kind of of confirming what were the bans
[06:12:20] they chose. In game two
[06:12:22] yesterday, they didn't even ban The Brood
[06:12:24] so maybe they thought, okay, GG's
[06:12:26] not going to whip it out this far into the tournament
[06:12:28] but I'm just thinking there's all these poisons that you
[06:12:32] have to pick from and I feel like they thought they found struck gold on the side of Team Liquid
[06:12:37] that they got their Monkey King first round very few teams before Falcons today were giving them this hero,
[06:12:42] but they preemptively countered it with Jokero.
[06:12:45] You think you have a really strong safe lane?
[06:12:47] The Monkey King CM, I can't think of a scarier safe lane.
[06:12:49] And it loses too. And then Necrotic webs won both bottom lane and midlane
[06:12:54] like there's a lot of pieces in this puzzle that are missing for liquid
[06:12:57] because i kind of liked what they were doing like i would have absolutely like if
[06:13:01] the last game wasn't out drafts if we
[06:13:02] just take away the gameplay the same thing would have happened to me i liked what liquid had going
[06:13:05] for them i will now say going into the next draft if you ban three plus fours but then
[06:13:10] the fourth one kind of destroys you in lane anyway.
[06:13:13] Then what's the matter with the first pass?
[06:13:15] You might as well just leave all of them open. At least
[06:13:17] it would have been one takeaway for me
[06:13:19] going into this game. Take out two,
[06:13:21] then take one of yourselves because overall, yeah. Again
[06:13:24] same story as in the upper bracket final
[06:13:26] it's the laning stage. They don't
[06:13:28] have one. Yeah I mean
[06:13:30] I'm having deja vu
[06:13:31] prime gaming gladiators right now where you know what's coming but you just don't have the
[06:13:37] answers yeah and it's very scary because they're going to try a different combination of bands
[06:13:42] this time hoping their result will be different
[06:13:44] this time. And hopefully for Game Ganaders it is!
[06:13:47] I had an idea going into what they should have done and
[06:13:50] they kind-of did that but then they got stopped in a
[06:13:53] different area which i think is the support diff
[06:13:55] i think the morphing cost for it had its fun and added time in the sun
[06:13:58] but against gaming gliders that's not going to fly so you're gonna have to
[06:14:01] pick something stronger i do like in this particular game the snap
[06:14:04] the hoodwink the jacaroero, the Weaver. They're all
[06:14:07] gone so those are all the A-listers for
[06:14:09] position 4 right now that win the lanes
[06:14:10] and that was kind of the issue that we had with 33
[06:14:13] last game is he didn't get a gain because
[06:14:14] his boss 4 was a Morphling and he's laning versus a Chen
[06:14:17] and Brood.
[06:14:18] He just couldn't play the game.
[06:14:19] Yeah, compared to previous games we had the Brewmaster making it through
[06:14:22] It will be Team Liquid first pick
[06:14:24] Other than that, the Templar Assassin
[06:14:26] We saw banned first phase by Gaiman Gladiator last
[06:14:30] game is still in the pool but the rest is all the same other than the J'Kyro now being
[06:14:33] a first-phase ban.
[06:14:34] He got added to the list there by Gaiman and And it is Enchantress that got banned
[06:14:39] and then the Brew picked up,
[06:14:40] it does mean that the Chen
[06:14:41] that we saw previous game from Celery
[06:14:43] is still in the pool?
[06:14:45] I think there's a reason why
[06:14:46] historically
[06:14:47] the teams that are winning all year
[06:14:49] Are not the ones that get first place at events like Riyadh and TI
[06:14:55] Last year Team Spirit cleaned up these two big tournaments
[06:14:58] And last year, Gaiman and Liquid
[06:15:00] were the two that were in the finals of all these tournaments.
[06:15:02] And what I'm trying to say is you guys
[06:15:04] mentioned that Gaiman Gladiators
[06:15:06] you know what's coming. You know what to expect
[06:15:08] but all of last year you had the target on your back.
[06:15:10] You were the team that was defining the meta and everyone
[06:15:13] was having to learn how to play against you for months
[06:15:16] And I feel like what we're missing here is that GameGladiators understands
[06:15:19] their strategy at its core
[06:15:20] because it's what they do across any patch if it's possible.
[06:15:23] And these teams have only had three weeks or so of scrims,
[06:15:26] maybe even two weeks of this tournament to figure out how to deal with it.
[06:15:29] And it's just so scary to think that they can do it with so many different heroes in so many different ways
[06:15:33] So many combinations you can't ban them all out. It's like how do you avoid the train when you're, you know
[06:15:38] Tied to the tracks I mean I will say two things like first of all
[06:15:41] It's obviously
[06:15:42] liquid are on the back foot right like when you look at this draft they're kind
[06:15:45] of forced to first pick brew because it's their only way to ban these three
[06:15:48] heroes and not also give them brewmaster at the same time but secondary not just to look at only the draft last
[06:15:55] game i think monkey cm versus jacquiero beast i'm pretty sure you can debate which lane should win
[06:16:01] and how hard should they win liquid didn't have a laning stage in their safe lane after four minutes,
[06:16:05] and that's not just losing,
[06:16:07] that's getting destroyed like Monkey King
[06:16:08] didn't touch the lane anymore nor did CM
[06:16:10] so it's not just the heroes that need to change
[06:16:12] I hope they had like a small talk about maybe we need some different itemization,
[06:16:15] some different movement, contested Lotus, whatever it is.
[06:16:18] Because it's not only the draft.
[06:16:19] You are being outplayed left, right and center as well.
[06:16:21] Yeah, you probably can't make those adjustments mid-series very easy.
[06:16:25] So I do like the fact that they just got rid of the Jakiro this time around and the Hoodwink,
[06:16:30] the Snap.
[06:16:30] So they're going to have to find a new hero for their position four that can do that bullying.
[06:16:34] What I'm a little worried
[06:16:35] about, though, is I feel
[06:16:36] like you had a couple
[06:16:37] angles to take this and
[06:16:38] either you ban out
[06:16:39] Duraccio and you ban the
[06:16:40] brood or you ban the CK
[06:16:42] when you bet on one of
[06:16:43] them, he's just going to
[06:16:43] pick the other.
[06:16:44] And I feel like it
[06:16:44] doesn't really phase
[06:16:45] their draft at all
[06:16:46] in any type of direction so they banned the beast there
[06:16:49] and now you still have the chin to deal with
[06:16:52] and you know some brood is gonna come as well
[06:16:54] it's like gaming class anyone can see this it's chin brute it was coming from 10
[06:16:58] miles away and i don't know what your plan is against us supports i think pick better supports
[06:17:04] this game cm's banned what what could we possibly do Maybe a Nyx is a hero that's decent versus Chen.
[06:17:10] I think you need to contest this Chen because yeah, that Chen destroyed his lane and what did
[06:17:13] he do after as we mentioned? He went through the gate and then he destroyed top lane as well.
[06:17:20] So at least deal with one of your lanes right now.
[06:17:22] Yeah, the problem with Nyx is even if it deals with the creep,
[06:17:24] I don't think you're ever pressuring the Broodmother if it is the carry.
[06:17:25] And despite what happens in the first four or five minutes,
[06:17:27] the Broodmother should have a perfectly good farm at five minutes
[06:17:31] and should be able to be independent and left alone.
[06:17:33] And so what we saw yesterday was Mikke's Razor
[06:17:36] in the safe lane getting camped four minutes in
[06:17:38] and that's
[06:17:39] the story of these two teams playing against each other.
[06:17:42] Duracho has all the space in the world
[06:17:43] and the supports on game and are allowed to move freely
[06:17:46] so I like techies a lot more than Knicks
[06:17:48] because you're not going to leave that lane as
[06:17:50] a five like you can't brewmaster plus techie so much slow
[06:17:54] so much skull damage so much chase potential
[06:17:57] that there will need to be multiple heroes from gaming in order to occupy
[06:18:00] that lane
[06:18:00] and that's the part that i at least am happy to see
[06:18:03] team liquid addressing but it has an abysmal win rate as well one is seven
[06:18:08] that's also just saying it's not really a strong hero right now yeah i mean today i think the one
[06:18:14] positive side of it is the fact that yeah it's probably like a c-list type of hero but all the
[06:18:19] best force are banned so he probably was playing against one of those
[06:18:23] four that are banned right now and losing every game,
[06:18:25] But if they're out of the pool
[06:18:27] he suddenly becomes a bit stronger because
[06:18:29] he is one of the stronger laners in Dota
[06:18:31] Just not as strong as Chikiro, the Weaver, the Sapphire
[06:18:33] or the Hoodwink. I'm not sure if there's something
[06:18:35] stronger you could pick so their idea
[06:18:37] is still there they want to try and give 33
[06:18:39] a game cause last game he didn't get played over
[06:18:41] Well at least we see that the uh the mood is definitely there
[06:18:45] for team liquid high spirits which is also incredibly important in a series like this they
[06:18:50] got an alchemist coming out for gaming Flex still open, but that's another contender
[06:18:56] for carry.
[06:18:56] Well I do think this has to be the carry at least
[06:18:59] for now Chen and Alch together.
[06:19:00] We all know what gaming will do with their drafts
[06:19:02] so there'll be good lanes into tempo.
[06:19:03] So far this is a great Alchemist game
[06:19:05] The damage you have on Liquid? It's very slow
[06:19:07] I never see this Alchemists gonna like
[06:19:09] To be bursted before his ult he's gonna heal through
[06:19:11] Like all the Radiance or whatever stuff
[06:19:13] They're gonna throw at them as well. So, very strong so far.
[06:19:16] It does mean that your Brood is offlane maybe there's something
[06:19:18] with the laning stage against the ET
[06:19:20] but yeah just one of their kind of S tier
[06:19:22] type of carries.
[06:19:23] It was kinda an interesting pick on second pick
[06:19:25] cause they could've technically flexed this Brood all the way to the end, right?
[06:19:29] But I wonder if they're just going to pick another core here.
[06:19:31] That would make more sense to me.
[06:19:32] Just like slap a Pango down or something and just be like...
[06:19:35] Or whatever, pick their mid and be like
[06:19:36] we don't really care about taking second pick advantage here
[06:19:39] we're just gonna pick our heroes we're going to pick them early and we know
[06:19:42] what we want to do and you just want to make sure we have the heroes we want for
[06:19:45] this game i mean if you're liquid do you wanna run back the pango or do you
[06:19:50] just take a completely different approach because like maybe if you're running cause right now okay
[06:19:55] top lane could be a similar scenario i I feel like Brutex could lose this
[06:19:59] lane quite hard. Suddenly you have no lanes to
[06:20:01] rotate to. Would you rather have a hero
[06:20:03] that is going to try to rotate around or just
[06:20:05] like, I'm going to destroy this and Volkram it
[06:20:06] and I'm going to stay here and you guys play around me.
[06:20:09] Well, I want a TA mid because I want a hero that can lane versus invoker
[06:20:13] and also doesn't get owned by this necrotic web stuff in the midlane.
[06:20:17] And I feel like TA can of not really rely on region
[06:20:20] and also just lane versus invoker and it's still in the pool for some reason
[06:20:24] yeah but that makes me think that it's a trap it's a truck
[06:20:27] it's a draft he has plenty of those.
[06:20:35] Because Gaiman banned TA in the first game just now, so it is very much on their radar. I mean we are going to get Monkey King out of Liquid.
[06:20:37] I am wondering if there is any flex potential?
[06:20:39] It is very unusual for Gaiman to save Tofu's
[06:20:41] pick till last.
[06:20:44] That's not going mid
[06:20:45] almost 100 rooms, sure. So that's
[06:20:47] gonna be a safe lane Monkey King
[06:20:49] they're picking their mid last
[06:20:51] and can Tofu play Alchemist?
[06:20:53] That is the question
[06:20:54] of the day.
[06:20:55] I'm sure he can.
[06:20:55] I'm pretty sure he can.
[06:20:57] Brian?
[06:20:58] I would hide
[06:20:58] in Tofu tonight.
[06:20:59] I was going to say
[06:21:00] if they do play him
[06:21:01] on Alchemist
[06:21:02] I think Midgate
[06:21:02] will have pretty
[06:21:03] solid free farm
[06:21:04] because of the fact
[06:21:05] that not only is
[06:21:05] Monkey King good
[06:21:06] against two Melees
[06:21:06] but you also have
[06:21:07] ET with the briefcase
[06:21:08] bringing the business
[06:21:09] But what I like about
[06:21:10] this Monkey King pick
[06:21:11] this game as opposed
[06:21:11] to last game
[06:21:12] since it's picked later in the draft,
[06:21:13] I think it's based on the matchups much more
[06:21:15] set up to actually rotate through the
[06:21:17] Twin Gate and punish
[06:21:19] the potential Alchemist safe lane.
[06:21:21] Something about this draft to me for Team Liquid at least
[06:21:24] boasts they'll have some playmaking potential
[06:21:26] in the early-to-mid game and
[06:21:27] they might be able to get active before these
[06:21:30] Broodmothers connect with
[06:21:32] the auras of the Chen.
[06:21:36] You know? I do like the auras of the chin. So, you know, I do like the Monkey King
[06:21:36] a lot more this game
[06:21:37] and the concern is
[06:21:39] like if his alchemist
[06:21:40] does get flexed or
[06:21:41] if broodmother
[06:21:43] necrotic webs is
[06:21:44] really that broken, you know?
[06:21:45] I mean, I'm thinking it's because they're banning out Dazzle.
[06:21:48] Which... Yeah.
[06:21:49] ...I don't know how much flexibility there is going.
[06:21:51] I thought this was just gonna be like some plus four for Tofu
[06:21:53] that will help your brood in the lane and
[06:21:55] like maybe offsets a matchups.
[06:21:56] Like, I don't know how much Phoenix they have played.
[06:21:59] I don't think they're necessarily a Phoenix team but something
[06:22:00] that helps your brood get through the lane against two dudes
[06:22:03] that kind of want to right click.
[06:22:04] Maybe some dark Willow, some counter team
[06:22:06] side.
[06:22:06] I don't know if
[06:22:07] you guys see
[06:22:07] anything else.
[06:22:08] Maybe they're
[06:22:08] thinking that
[06:22:09] there's a position
[06:22:10] for potential
[06:22:11] Dazzle as well
[06:22:12] and here it is
[06:22:13] still strong in
[06:22:13] lane against
[06:22:14] matchups
[06:22:14] if we can just
[06:22:15] right click them
[06:22:15] down.
[06:22:16] Probably against Zelda or Titan might be annoying because you just want to get in against certain matchups if you can just right click them down yeah probably again
[06:22:16] selder titan might be annoying because you just want to get in there right quick if we stack up
[06:22:20] too much but yeah i think we've gone to a position now where both these teams have realized by far
[06:22:25] the best supports in the game right now for winning lanes and
[06:22:27] Now we're just really digging down the list here to see what is left here
[06:22:31] And I honestly can't I don't know what's left for gaming gliders or something. That's like super strong here or something
[06:22:38] Yeah like super strong here. Or something? I don't know. Yeah, your guess is as good
[06:22:39] as mine!
[06:22:41] Oh no...
[06:22:42] That sounds pretty grim.
[06:22:43] I'm sure that this
[06:22:44] is a puzzle that Liquid
[06:22:46] will attempt to deal with
[06:22:47] the best they can.
[06:22:48] The Templar Assassin is still in the pool, but again
[06:22:49] because it's also not banned
[06:22:51] it just shouts trap.
[06:22:54] And I'm sure that's how Liquid feel.
[06:22:55] It could also be overconfidence.
[06:22:57] I will say that even if they're the best, they can sometimes make an oversight.
[06:23:00] They are playing so good
[06:23:02] that they probably don't really care all that much.
[06:23:05] If they play a good hero
[06:23:06] they would still know how to counter it.
[06:23:08] So I feel like their bans are pretty on point.
[06:23:11] Oh, they have Sand King still in the pool. I was thinking Keeper of Light or some heavy
[06:23:15] Spell Damage Nuker to defend towers? Sand King does that with his body as
[06:23:19] I think they were planning to do last game with the Tidehunter.
[06:23:22] Sadly, he started the game really
[06:23:23] miniature because of his facets.
[06:23:25] It was not big enough to do that in the midgame. Maybe
[06:23:27] SanKing from the mid lane will be able to hit that timing a bit better
[06:23:29] because he gets more solo priority,
[06:23:31] probably getting stacks.
[06:23:32] ET Techies, very good for stacking.
[06:23:34] You can use the Spirit, you can use the Bombs.
[06:23:37] I like this a lot more.
[06:23:38] I think it deals with
[06:23:39] the Broodmother potential pressure.
[06:23:41] I think it's going to be absolutely crucial that
[06:23:43] Chen is gonna come through the Twin Gate,
[06:23:45] Sankey needs to be there to save the tower
[06:23:47] we saw go down super early for Micke in Game 1.
[06:23:51] This plus four has to just be one of the 4 or 5 we threw out at this point. There aren't that many left if it is going to be the plus four which I feel like it is.
[06:23:58] If you're not gonna try and win your lane what about a Spirit Breaker or something like that and just play the map?
[06:24:05] Because I don't know what's going to guarantee when you elain with what's left.
[06:24:10] I just don't see it.
[06:24:12] Could be standard Rubick.
[06:24:16] Damage controlling would be fine, but I guess got standard Rubick. Yeah, I feel like damage controlling would be fine but just some... Rubick for stanking makes sense?
[06:24:17] Yeah.
[06:24:19] And also kinda liked the worth and whatever else I mentioned before which I have brain
[06:24:22] damage so I forgot about it.
[06:24:23] I like the Spirit Breaker and we all have a different idea
[06:24:25] and i'm sure that's the best support in the game right there no we're gonna have a shot of feet
[06:24:31] then we will see uh the invoker be played as a position it was right in front of us the whole time
[06:24:37] should have known should have no one the options that we mentioned i believe i did i thought
[06:24:42] i feel like this is how Team Liquid beat Falcons earlier,
[06:24:45] was the surprise flex of the SF first pick into a carry
[06:24:49] which allowed them to win mid.
[06:24:50] Now we're seeing the surprise mid-pick again
[06:24:53] in Voker then flexed to support
[06:24:55] allowing you get that favorable matchup.
[06:24:57] I mean this was an obvious Invoker
[06:24:59] support pick. He's playing versus ET so he
[06:25:01] is gonna use a tornado and move to Astral
[06:25:03] Can't believe any of us got hired for
[06:25:05] this event. That's true, we're pretty bad.
[06:25:08] Nice last event working with you guys?
[06:25:11] No, I mean, I think it's interesting
[06:25:12] and it might work but I think more than anything
[06:25:14] they just want to survive that bot lane, get through
[06:25:16] these levels, just dispel the ET I don't think they're going to crush
[06:25:19] that lane until maybe when Brood gets higher
[06:25:21] level right? Mid lane should be a definite
[06:25:23] stomp. I think Shadow Fiend versus SK
[06:25:24] is not a matchup in which you can
[06:25:26] even get creepss as we saw earlier
[06:25:29] tournament, I think Topson was playing it
[06:25:31] mid lane versus, I believe
[06:25:33] it was Anub or something. Either way, it doesn't really matter
[06:25:35] but that matchup is very difficult and has been proven
[06:25:37] before. In the safe lane we'll have to see about that one.
[06:25:40] Brewmaster should be fine versus Alchemist
[06:25:42] so that is a lane that can hold tempo for them.
[06:25:44] I'm favoring Gaming's draft
[06:25:46] which I guess kind of goes without saying
[06:25:48] but Liquid have way better shot at fighting back. I'm looking at their supports. Maybe
[06:25:51] you can play through Nisha mid, right? Like you
[06:25:53] barrel strike Quinn when he plays over-aggressive
[06:25:55] bring Boxy into the mid lane.
[06:25:57] If Miky has a good game, he can rotate around
[06:25:58] so this time around, I just want to see them have better lanes
[06:26:01] go together combine your heroes and fight into game in
[06:26:04] Nick is the pace setter for Liquid here
[06:26:07] I think he's going to get active really early
[06:26:09] Either the twin gate
[06:26:12] He might even be going mid to be like a four man game because he offers the stun that supports lack
[06:26:14] That's what I'm keeping an eye on
[06:26:16] Mid lane because Quinn set up for the snowball
[06:26:18] and we've seen SF
[06:26:20] punish these melee heroes pretty hard throughout this event.
[06:26:23] That was a very sad sign!
[06:26:27] I'm like, okay, Broodmother solo lane, that's hard to deal with.
[06:26:30] SF has now got the favorable 1v1. Duracho is a tempo hero.
[06:26:33] We have seen this script written out,
[06:26:35] and if this is the sequel will it play out
[06:26:37] the same as the original?
[06:26:39] Well let's find out what's going to happen
[06:26:41] in game number 2 of this grand finals between Liquid and Gaming Gladiators. First,
[06:26:44] some words from Coach CY.
[06:26:47] Hey, Merit, it's CY. What do you think
[06:26:48] about the drafts that you ended up with?
[06:26:50] I like it. I'm a
[06:26:51] so I'm happy we finally got to pick it.
[06:26:54] That's it?
[06:26:55] There are a lot of other interesting heroes
[06:26:57] you're up against at Techies,
[06:26:58] are you worried about that hero not in the meta anymore?
[06:27:00] I am not worried about Techies at all.
[06:27:02] Maybe he is cooking something on edge
[06:27:04] but I haven't know.
[06:27:05] Haven't seen much of the zero to be honest. I feel they have better ways to kill spiders
[06:27:08] at least this game that could slow down Draco's laning stage
[06:27:11] Maybe... Maybe but the thing is
[06:27:14] You can kill spiders but he kinda also jungles and it's not always easy to reach them anyways.
[06:27:19] All right well good luck in the match.
[06:27:20] Thank you so much.
[06:27:25] Well it was indeed a trap.
[06:27:28] The Invoker is not going to be going mid.
[06:27:30] They are playing a support Invoker
[06:27:31] and they swerve to the Shadow Feed
[06:27:33] to keep the Nisha Sanking down. That
[06:27:37] was a deadly twist in
[06:27:39] the draft, dude.
[06:27:41] Deadly for somebody?
[06:27:43] That is the question. For who here?
[06:27:45] I mean if history says anything it's probably for liquid but
[06:27:48] i actually would have preferred the invoker mid
[06:27:53] okay if i don't know what that says maybe i'm horribly wrong on that
[06:27:57] why i don't know i was feeling the corn poker in this game i think you I'm horribly wrong on that. Why?
[06:27:58] I don't know,
[06:27:59] I was feeling the core in Volker in this game.
[06:28:00] I think he actually has
[06:28:00] some decent core matchups
[06:28:01] like the EMP burn
[06:28:02] on the Brewmaster
[06:28:03] is pretty nasty.
[06:28:04] The dispels for the ET
[06:28:05] and the Monkey
[06:28:06] are both very good
[06:28:07] and Volker kind of just owns
[06:28:08] Monkey King a lot of the game.
[06:28:10] It's a really rough core matchup.
[06:28:12] EMB, even we saw,
[06:28:14] I think Quinn play this
[06:28:15] Invoker into Tiny Mid
[06:28:17] a lot in this tournament
[06:28:18] and I think similar reasons work against the Sand King
[06:28:20] in terms of if you just keep Tornado EMP-ing this hero,
[06:28:23] you can't make rotations,
[06:28:24] you can't countergank fights.
[06:28:25] It's kind of awkward and you're a vessel buyer.
[06:28:27] So you remove the healing aspect
[06:28:29] of a Sand King rushing Bloodstone
[06:28:30] as well as some of the monkey effects.
[06:28:32] I thought it was a great core in poker games.
[06:28:34] Hold up, hold on. I heard a lot of things
[06:28:36] but lanes
[06:28:39] who wins harder against Sand King? Well, Shadow King shadow okay well then i rest my case your honor
[06:28:43] i mean there is anything else matter in this series avery
[06:28:46] i mean to me it goes back to like that dazzle ember pick it's a cheese lane pick
[06:28:50] that quinn basically saying I'm going to demolish
[06:28:52] niches real hard. This guy doesn't get to play the game.
[06:28:54] That has happened a lot so
[06:28:56] there's some faith to be had there.
[06:28:58] And if this Yankee doesn't get to play the game
[06:29:00] then you don't have anybody to stop this push
[06:29:03] that's going to be coming from Game of Gladiators.
[06:29:04] A push from Liquid comes through
[06:29:07] to get first blood on Seller.
[06:29:09] Sneaky move. Hiding
[06:29:11] back behind the trees. They get the first blood for their carry.
[06:29:14] Very happy about that if you're liquid
[06:29:16] and they do
[06:29:18] lose three runes. A little sad
[06:29:20] about that if you're liquid, especially
[06:29:21] when there's an Alchemist on board.
[06:29:24] Now this lane...
[06:29:25] Last time around we had the situation
[06:29:27] where we were talking about how
[06:29:28] the offlane of Liquid was pretty passive.
[06:29:32] Now in their draft,
[06:29:34] they opted for a killing duo.
[06:29:37] I was not thrilled to see Techies
[06:29:39] because frankly,
[06:29:40] I think this hero got nerfed too much
[06:29:42] that I don't think it's as strong later.
[06:29:46] Holy cow, Insign senior just beat down topi
[06:29:53] but they are already using that blast off with the facet to good extent here dorachiocio is going to suicide kill.
[06:29:55] Nicely done,
[06:29:56] holding on
[06:29:57] to the unstable concoction
[06:29:58] and they get the kill
[06:29:59] in Boxy
[06:29:59] in return.
[06:30:00] That was very close
[06:30:01] and a big deny
[06:30:02] to get still liquid
[06:30:03] coming out
[06:30:04] swinging
[06:30:04] in this game too
[06:30:05] and that is a good sign to see
[06:30:06] this team needs some confidence
[06:30:08] boost going into this game.
[06:30:09] Need to just go out there
[06:30:11] and play for the win,
[06:30:13] not trying to avoid the loss.
[06:30:14] So it's good to see them
[06:30:16] striking back here early, gain some confidence
[06:30:17] early on in this game and get to actually
[06:30:19] play the game because they did not get to do much of that
[06:30:21] in Game 1. Going back for some
[06:30:23] similar things here with the Monkey King
[06:30:25] but a support duo that should be stronger in the early game.
[06:30:28] I think that's the upside of the Techies here.
[06:30:30] Another blast off. Again,
[06:30:32] this Facet allowing extra damage
[06:30:34] combined with a Brewmaster who is
[06:30:36] already one of the stronger laners
[06:30:39] when it comes to kills thanks to this
[06:30:40] combination of burn and clap.
[06:30:43] Liquid supports. This was
[06:30:44] one of my big factors. You've got to get stuff done in the early
[06:30:46] game if you're liquid supports.
[06:30:48] I feel like they've already gotten more done here
[06:30:50] than maybe some of these previous games combined.
[06:30:52] Yeah, absolutely.
[06:30:53] And Insania is making really good work at this timing
[06:30:55] where there is no level two on Tofu.
[06:30:58] Therefore, there's no tornado. Therefore, there's no tornado.
[06:31:00] Therefore, there's no dispel to his spirit and extra damage.
[06:31:03] So he just keeps on taking it to gaming gladiators in this window
[06:31:07] where he has the advantage before Tofu comes in with the counter.
[06:31:11] And Nisha's doing fine, man.
[06:31:13] Not as low as I would have thought. Still has a bottle
[06:31:15] charge. Picks up a water rune.
[06:31:16] He's cruising here. Going even on the CS board
[06:31:18] early. Good sign for him. If it gets hard later, he can always
[06:31:21] go back to the stacks and if you're
[06:31:23] Liquid, if you're winning in two side lanes, you almost don't care what
[06:31:25] happens because he's a Sanky or whatever.
[06:31:28] He's gonna be a playmaker.
[06:31:30] Drogio getting, trying to strike back
[06:31:32] He is going to get this kill looks like
[06:31:34] as he... oh it's not quite fast
[06:31:36] enough. Didn't get the courier either
[06:31:38] Boxy continuing
[06:31:40] outplays and double brace already up for 33 means
[06:31:44] his rotation potential is there, you can leave this Brew alone to a decent degree
[06:31:48] Maybe look for the turnaround kill mid on the Shadow Beam
[06:31:51] Gang bottom
[06:31:52] Really want this Techies
[06:31:53] to accelerate this game.
[06:31:55] That could be the strength of this pick here for Liquid.
[06:31:57] Even if the Hero's maybe not the strongest in the meta.
[06:32:02] Misha!
[06:32:04] Burrow Strike away! Quinn's gonna chase after him though.
[06:32:05] So slow.
[06:32:07] The build up movement speed slow is so obnoxious.
[06:32:10] Meanwhile the aggression from 33 and Boxy pays out yet another kill, this time
[06:32:14] selling it. They are just
[06:32:16] demolishing this Chen Alcling
[06:32:19] Not a lane that Gaiman I think are used
[06:32:21] to losing. At least these out combinations
[06:32:23] usually go well for them. Especially with all the extra gold
[06:32:26] that Rocio had, he started this game with
[06:32:27] so much extra gold from the bounty runes
[06:32:29] plus seed money
[06:32:31] not able to translate it into a lane
[06:32:34] win here and Ace in trouble.
[06:32:35] Oh, the tornado just in time!
[06:32:36] Well played by Tofu, well positioned to hit both heroes.
[06:32:40] Otherwise, Ace surely would have died there.
[06:32:43] Such a big kill for Insania.
[06:32:45] Wentz's boots investment has been dominating the lane. That would've been such a big kill for Insania. Wentz's boots investment has been dominating the lane,
[06:32:47] that would have been the big payoff experience-wise.
[06:32:49] But good news is you burn out that mana from Tofu,
[06:32:52] now you can just go back in swinging.
[06:32:54] Yeah, it doesn't really make that much of a difference
[06:32:55] if Ace lives but he's on no HP therefore
[06:32:58] He can't challenge ADCS whatsoever and Insania almost gets killed until once again the tornado
[06:33:06] Incepts but you're left in the same situation.
[06:33:10] Yeah they are struggling out here.
[06:33:12] Both sidelines for Demon.
[06:33:13] Bomb lands, Celery soon to blow up.
[06:33:15] They're going to try and get the counterkill
[06:33:16] on Boxy with the acid spray unstable concoction that
[06:33:19] is enough i almost wish he hadn't earned on this brewmaster oh nisha another raise long
[06:33:25] range and the raindrop is not enough the build up a vantage this matchup was just too rough
[06:33:32] yeah turned up that heat early portions of that lane we're going okay it just escalated
[06:33:36] very quick and now quinn has a two level advantage on this San
[06:33:39] King mid party. Level six tofu tornado after
[06:33:44] Tornado right before the final hit can come in
[06:33:48] an aces decent damage onkey on the way back but of course insania
[06:33:53] it makes it much worse for ace to keep trading
[06:33:58] tornadoes have been clutched but they're just damage control down here.
[06:34:02] Still a much better laning phase overall for Liquid.
[06:34:05] All three of their cores finding something and the supports being a lot more active.
[06:34:10] In fact, Boxy smoked mid
[06:34:12] looking for a low shadow fiend
[06:34:15] or maybe just blocking some camps
[06:34:17] could get the connection
[06:34:18] with the sandwich here.
[06:34:19] He might be able to
[06:34:20] sandwich in here.
[06:34:21] Quinn will be... Oh no! What's happening? Oh, they might be able to sandwich him here. Quinn!
[06:34:24] Oh no! What's happening?
[06:34:27] They had an opportunity. Burrow Strike, Sandstorm blast off. Surely all of that combined
[06:34:29] would be close.
[06:34:30] They just missed him?
[06:34:33] Unfortunate. Unfortunate.
[06:34:35] To be honest, I don't know if Quinn actually dies.
[06:34:37] He has Fairy Fire, Raindrop Wand
[06:34:39] and he already has Requiem.
[06:34:41] Yeah, it definitely would have been a close call of maybe he gets off the Requiem.
[06:34:44] They're gonna try again.
[06:34:45] The both? Okay they bring in Sita.
[06:34:47] They're like we need more!
[06:34:49] We need four heroes to make sure that Quinn dies here and he still gets off the Requiem!
[06:34:53] The Requiem.
[06:34:55] The Requiem goes out it's not enough to kill
[06:34:56] Misha.
[06:34:58] Sub 100 HP on multiple
[06:35:00] heroes but Liquid walk
[06:35:03] it off they get that big sf kill and they're securing the uh six
[06:35:08] minute pile rune as well so if it's something really good like a regen nisha would be able
[06:35:13] to just stay in lane.
[06:35:17] And, I mean, there are clearly some adjustments,
[06:35:19] like what I've made going into this game, which is good to see.
[06:35:23] The fact that 33 rotated here early, kind of picking up on that Game 1,
[06:35:25] hey, these guys are gonna bring numbers to play as we just have to overcompensate
[06:35:26] and make sure the ones that were committing to work
[06:35:28] especially these big core oriented ganks
[06:35:31] I like that. Just bring the brewmaster
[06:35:32] It's not going to cost 33 too much here. You can just run
[06:35:35] back to top. It's not like you're solo pressuring the Alc anyway.
[06:35:38] Make sure some of these plays work so
[06:35:39] you can build some steam here on
[06:35:41] your supports. That was sort of the
[06:35:43] MO at one point in time when Game of Gladiators
[06:35:46] was the most dominant team of the 2023 regular season they kept on
[06:35:51] bringing both supports into mid lane all the time to help out quinn and at some point in
[06:35:55] time it developed where i was like okay both teams teams bring both supports. And then all of a sudden
[06:35:59] maybe a core is joining in and then we
[06:36:01] got to some craziness where there are five people
[06:36:03] mid at seven, eight minutes.
[06:36:05] It is the Quinn effect.
[06:36:09] You have a player
[06:36:09] that's going to try
[06:36:10] and dominate mid
[06:36:11] and perhaps do it
[06:36:12] with some of these cheese picks
[06:36:13] that automatically
[06:36:13] creates a power imbalance.
[06:36:15] Whenever you have
[06:36:16] a power imbalance
[06:36:16] on the map in Dota 2,
[06:36:17] it kind of sucks
[06:36:18] everybody towards it. One team
[06:36:20] is looking to exploit it, the other is looking to defend against
[06:36:22] it. So a lot of time for gaming
[06:36:24] and it is around this mid lane
[06:36:25] which is why they like these independent side lanes
[06:36:28] Heroes like Alch and Brood, who when you get left alone
[06:36:30] and you ignore them for two minutes, suddenly
[06:36:32] they're level six. Suddenly they're just flash farming jungle
[06:36:35] become big problems here.
[06:36:37] So if you're Liquid, you really have
[06:36:39] to make sure those mid ganks work because it's like that game one
[06:36:42] you get sucked into these skirmishes that are unfavorable against the range mid hero who's
[06:36:47] just outpacing you and you're in trouble miss the stomp, miss the blastoff!
[06:36:53] This is a good opportunity to learn.
[06:36:57] Not Liquid's finest hour...
[06:36:59] But they did learn!
[06:37:01] They got that going for them. what do you think they learned here
[06:37:04] they're learning a lot i think they've been learning a lot recently against
[06:37:10] nick gay meanwhile gonna receive a similar gank here but this time it's paired up
[06:37:15] with two cores as Quinn made his way across the map not that he was needed for the kill
[06:37:20] but he is hopeful when it comes to tower pressure because liquid's already taken the top tower
[06:37:25] so gaming gladiators want to be able to mirror that
[06:37:29] let's open up the tower for ace ice armorery. Going to buff everybody up here
[06:37:33] and good news for Liquid
[06:37:35] is at least you're able
[06:37:36] to trade out that top power
[06:37:37] on the Brew33.
[06:37:39] Having a pretty good game
[06:37:40] here on one of his better
[06:37:41] heroes in the Brewmaster.
[06:37:42] That's why they first picked it.
[06:37:43] I think Liquid felt like a lot of these all planers were getting banned out towards the end
[06:37:46] of the draft and just wanted to secure one they felt very confident with early.
[06:37:49] Can't blame them there.
[06:37:50] Quinn gets a regen rune, big pick up.
[06:37:54] You have some levels between this Sand King and Brewmaster if you can combine those two big pickup.
[06:37:56] You have some levels between the Sand King and Brewmaster if you can combine them here.
[06:37:59] You'd particularly
[06:38:00] love to bring down this Shadow Fiend one or two
[06:38:02] more times in his early game. He's very
[06:38:04] susceptible to the numbers right now.
[06:38:08] I don't think Gaiman would actually mind
[06:38:10] farming up a bit here. All three of their
[06:38:13] cores love the flash from the jungle
[06:38:14] right now, and Cel celery is taking over more real estate in your jungle
[06:38:23] so it's not just the cores they're going to be farming but also
[06:38:26] celery himself he's gonna try and take some camps
[06:38:28] away from you nice use of the hurricane make sure his hero is outside of burrow strike range
[06:38:33] nisha's still looking for something with his phase boots
[06:38:35] but does not have the superior movement speed against an Invoker or Broodmother.
[06:38:40] Okay, I'll move for Liquid.
[06:38:41] Buying time for Gaiman's cores as Dorachou gets top lane in.
[06:38:45] Quinn finishes up some Ancients.
[06:38:47] These heroes are finding their levels.
[06:38:48] Now downside for gaming right
[06:38:49] now is you're missing a lot of levels on this support invoker
[06:38:52] tofu kind of just doesn't exist right now another reason i feel if you're
[06:38:56] liquid you really want to ramp up the pressure or
[06:38:58] fight around this tier one mid, get something going.
[06:39:00] You just have such a good spell advantage right now and these cores on Gaiman don't wanna
[06:39:04] have to go to fights. It's gonna be hard kill but he doesn't have chemical rage
[06:39:08] And it's possible if they hit the Blast off at the right time,
[06:39:11] the Brewmaster is here, Tornado comes in
[06:39:13] But they've already got the burn damage on
[06:39:15] Clatts gonna be used and they're gonna use the Primal Split just to make sure
[06:39:17] that Dorachio is dead
[06:39:19] and maybe look for a little bit more meanwhile misha holding
[06:39:22] their jungle with the sandstorm as celery continues to be an obnoxious presence around this area
[06:39:31] he's fighting some decent farm on his
[06:39:32] Chen, almost level 6 as well.
[06:39:36] So I haven't seen a Brewmaster ult or
[06:39:38] epicenter be put to use
[06:39:40] around this mid tower which I think is the biggest place you'd want to get them done.
[06:39:43] Back kill you'll definitely take for the Brule.
[06:39:47] Now you're gonna have to wait a little bit if you wanna make this...
[06:39:48] Last time the Rune was bottom and they are both going to bank on it being bottom.
[06:39:51] It's top in damage that'll be secured for Nisha looks like.
[06:39:56] Nice little rune pickup for him.
[06:39:57] I mean better to take away from the Shadow Beam here for sure.
[06:40:02] Game slows down a little bit i mean look with stabilize so big question coming into this
[06:40:07] game you do not want to go down o2 in this series especially two games where
[06:40:11] you just get decimated by 20 minutes it's very important to stabilize this early game
[06:40:16] and the supports have done their job here so let's go back for some stacks try and get
[06:40:21] this blink on the sand king give give them initiation power. I like that
[06:40:25] Boxy joining in on this
[06:40:27] because he needs to experience
[06:40:29] to be able to get his level 6 but it does
[06:40:31] leave nobody up here with 33
[06:40:33] who gets ganked by the topo-quin duo.
[06:40:37] Collect his soul, plus one on the board.
[06:40:41] And he's gonna go straight for Yasha Kaya.
[06:40:44] What do you make of these different SF builds?
[06:40:46] We've seen some that just slide out and just do not go.
[06:40:49] Yashakaya, do you think it's necessary to always have that item?
[06:40:51] Ace...
[06:40:52] Boxy didn't have the right position for the blast off.
[06:40:54] Now that he is out here though
[06:40:56] they can still probably catch up to over-the-bound
[06:40:57] their strike really helping things out meets the furrow strike they've got him oh what
[06:41:01] how did that happen one troll versus four heroes and somehow he nabs the last hit.
[06:41:09] That's not for the likes of you.
[06:41:12] That is unbelievably bad luck!
[06:41:15] Small Hill Troll attack for nine physical.
[06:41:21] Was it actually the small one?
[06:41:23] I think so, no it was the big one.
[06:41:26] But it needed the small one as well.
[06:41:29] Well, I mean
[06:41:29] sometimes you're just cursed man.
[06:41:31] I don't know what to tell you.
[06:41:33] Yeah, we have a line of
[06:41:35] destiny and fate
[06:41:36] and game gladiators
[06:41:37] and liquid
[06:41:38] liquid would call this a curse.
[06:41:40] That felt very cursed right there.
[06:41:43] Absolutely, as that was
[06:41:44] a big kill to Snag
[06:41:46] and it gets denied from you.
[06:41:48] Just feels bad here.
[06:41:54] Good news is Ace's game is way slower than last time so you're still doing your job at shutting down this brood which i mean that food went absolutely rampant in that
[06:41:59] game one of course it was from a different position but
[06:42:01] you know, Gaiman are going to try and do similar things with it.
[06:42:03] That was a swing around move to try and kind of
[06:42:05] backstab this jungle area that was unsuccessful
[06:42:07] slows down Ace's game, slows
[06:42:09] down those auras, gives you more time to operate here really quick get that team
[06:42:13] fight together doradcio staying ahead of the gang from liquid still working towards his radance. His two carries
[06:42:23] are farmed for Gaiman, that they have
[06:42:25] for sure but they're still susceptible
[06:42:26] you can find connections with this Sand King blink
[06:42:28] it is online for Nisha he has
[06:42:30] Shield Ruin as well so be a really good time to smoke it up on the
[06:42:34] side of liquid blink in the blink burrow strike pretty much sets up your stomp earth splitter
[06:42:38] it sets up your techie spells it's a guaranteed kill killing almost anybody.
[06:42:47] Going for it!
[06:42:51] Oh, Hurricane pushed them farther away outside of all of it.
[06:42:51] No Burrow Strike, no epicenter damage.
[06:42:54] Celery just baited out a play.
[06:42:56] Liquid didn't have the smoke ready to go.
[06:42:58] Boxy bought one up.
[06:42:59] They obviously wanted to make a move with this
[06:43:02] but Celery threw pressure on the mid lane
[06:43:04] got Liquid to make a
[06:43:05] mistake. Celery honestly has
[06:43:07] been owning this game with this Hurricane
[06:43:09] just playing up in Liquid's face, scouting
[06:43:11] areas, forcing responses
[06:43:13] always getting out which is a tough
[06:43:19] line to walk with this chen when you're fairly slow and you have some greedy
[06:43:23] cores you need time to farm you're not pushing liquid down here
[06:43:26] you're trying to scale a bit more
[06:43:28] they have a different play style from
[06:43:29] gaming
[06:43:31] despite it having a similar feel in the
[06:43:33] draft radiance will be done here for
[06:43:34] garaccio so at a very decent timing
[06:43:38] i don't think you really want to just run in the fight without a pkb
[06:43:43] or at least maybe the aura up on the broodmother you You're looking for Pipe here
[06:43:47] first for Ace as Pipe
[06:43:50] first for 33 will be there
[06:43:52] as well, though it does feel like the Pipe
[06:43:54] for Gaiman is a bit more valuable
[06:43:55] Liquid seemed a lot
[06:43:57] more reliant on magic
[06:43:58] damage, it's also
[06:43:59] very strong item
[06:44:00] versus the ET aura
[06:44:01] and the stanking.
[06:44:02] from the invoker,
[06:44:04] right?
[06:44:05] So.
[06:44:07] Cannot dispel
[06:44:07] pipe.
[06:44:08] Ah, that's true. Well, Sam dispelled from proof Cannot Dispel Pike.
[06:44:11] Plus they have Dispel from Broodmaster as well, so it's even here in terms of Dispel power.
[06:44:14] I just think gaming or not is reliant on the
[06:44:16] magical damages team like SF, ALF,
[06:44:18] Broodmother... kind of mostly physical
[06:44:21] cores to be honest like they have some spell power early but
[06:44:24] they kind of just want to get into the fight and start right clicking you down
[06:44:26] with like a drum buff up and some extra attack speed,
[06:44:29] brood shard later on.
[06:44:31] Yeah you can start off with the wars on this brood
[06:44:32] but we've seen ace do hybrid builds
[06:44:34] on the serial before.
[06:44:37] We'll still make the five man very strong here for liquid
[06:44:39] And I think it is an absolute fine item choice here for 33.
[06:44:42] Just want to get something done with it early
[06:44:43] maybe threaten Roshan. That's another
[06:44:45] big question mark here for Liquid. We talked about
[06:44:47] some of the Roche killers they've used over the course of the tournament
[06:44:50] The two biggest ones for them, I think, have been
[06:44:51] the Beastmaster and the Templar Assassin.
[06:44:54] They don't really have a good hero
[06:44:56] to take down early Roshanth,
[06:44:57] which might be giving Gaiman some breathing room
[06:45:00] here in terms of, alright, we're not
[06:45:01] being too pressured to force
[06:45:04] a contest here anytime soon yeah which leaves a big question mark right now game and you're
[06:45:09] actually getting to play dota here or or Liquid are going to play Dota.
[06:45:13] For now. Game of Gladiators is still gonna
[06:45:15] hit some window at like 25 minutes
[06:45:17] and try and mow you down. Great, so that's the question.
[06:45:19] What do you do in this next 5 minute period
[06:45:21] if you're Liquid to try and slow down that pace
[06:45:23] or ramp up your own tempo.
[06:45:27] I don't think Roche is fast
[06:45:28] enough, and the Tier 1s are already dead,
[06:45:30] so you kind of have a smoke to the triangle
[06:45:32] or a smoke to try and find the alchemist running good pick up if they
[06:45:35] can get it who's gonna make the jump misha does not fish for it that does he could add an
[06:45:42] opportunity blink up to the high ground there and get vision for his team.
[06:45:46] Doesn't do any of that. Maybe he felt like
[06:45:47] the terrain was in awkward position, but I think
[06:45:49] you have to kind of just go on these plays
[06:45:51] like you're making them because you feel like
[06:45:53] you're stronger. And if you're going gonna group four team fighters or something like that...
[06:45:56] I mean just blink blind and see what you find.
[06:46:00] Maybe giving game gladiators too much credit
[06:46:02] that they are set up there.
[06:46:03] Doesn't want to stumble into an ambush.
[06:46:09] Yeah but- Ooh! I mean look at their lineup yeah alchemist shadow feet are not ambushing you like these guys are just farming the whole map right now and they're
[06:46:13] getting away with it this game is almost some psychological warfare starting to feel like
[06:46:19] like liquid keep expecting gaming the group up and push them and if not coming they did
[06:46:23] it to him in 20 series in a row now all of a sudden they're just farming 20 minute death pushes on me
[06:46:33] like guys it's 17 minutes our base isn't getting sieged like Like, what's happening?
[06:46:39] Game of Gladiators fair lineup requires a different kind
[06:46:43] of timing,
[06:46:44] And we'll see if they're as proficient at hitting this one
[06:46:47] as they were with so many other
[06:46:49] teams. Their 20 minute
[06:46:51] death ball push that they kept on reaching
[06:46:54] 33 holds
[06:46:55] the mid tower, puts the Brute Brother
[06:46:57] in that free push across.
[06:46:59] They just head up to the top tower instead
[06:47:02] and take over that triangle.
[06:47:04] I wonder if this game has almost been annoying for Liquid
[06:47:06] in a sense of they built this line-up
[06:47:08] to fight them early and often
[06:47:10] take the five-man fights and defend the towers,
[06:47:13] it just hasn't been there.
[06:47:15] There's another poke that gets reactions out of Liquid
[06:47:17] and isn't actually a move or is it?
[06:47:20] Nisha jumps forward only only hits the Burrow Strike
[06:47:21] on one. So how Tofu
[06:47:23] does not get landed by that one and
[06:47:25] the EMP pulls
[06:47:27] him out. Nice stop though! Oh what a nice stop
[06:47:29] That's gonna sit up mid-game for the Wukong's command with a blast off on top of that one.
[06:47:33] Now the Kingdom Gladiators core, oh there it is to jump in from the Requiem
[06:47:37] To try and blow up the Sand King as well as the Plus One they got him
[06:47:41] And Mikkei is fighting for his life against a horde of spiders
[06:47:43] and won't be able to do much there.
[06:47:44] Primal split, plus a stomp,
[06:47:47] and Sania's going to make
[06:47:48] a run for it, but Duraccio and Ace will hunt them down.
[06:47:51] They all end on the supports,
[06:47:52] but it's the cores of gaming gladiators
[06:47:54] who have come online
[06:47:55] and are ready to fight
[06:47:56] and they're going to team wipe Liquid
[06:47:59] if they can find 33 here
[06:48:02] with a stun! No, they don't the stun no they don't no they don't okay well he's still stuck
[06:48:07] in a corner here he's gonna make it cost to gain gladiators as much time as possible but surely could deny itself to roche could he try the clap goes out and it's not
[06:48:22] and now you're in roshan should have ran the other way maybe i was thinking the exact same
[06:48:28] thing this is not what you want away from ron sean at this point this is not a good ending to
[06:48:33] the fight for liquid they're going to lose Rosh after all this.
[06:48:36] I mean, it's a beautiful stomp. You have to take
[06:48:38] that there but you end up committing
[06:48:40] a lot and Quinn just has no fear.
[06:48:42] No stuns left goes in massive
[06:48:44] Requiem takes out Nisha
[06:48:46] and the other two cores are playing outside that Wukong.
[06:48:49] Really nice positioning here from Gaiman towards...
[06:48:51] Oh, hand to God saves him.
[06:48:54] Nisha though slips in from behind
[06:48:56] and a Steiner to the backside. We'll finish him off.
[06:49:00] I mean, that's just brutal that
[06:49:01] fight happens in that way where GameNard
[06:49:03] literally in the pit at the end
[06:49:05] with all three cores who are pretty good
[06:49:08] at doing roshan with the minus on from the alchemist
[06:49:10] yeah now you're suddenly down 10k off of what looked like a good setup by the way this alc he went to mantha before the bkb so dorachio ends up winning
[06:49:21] that fight without making bkb and now this mantha is going to pay off because you can
[06:49:24] just push out lanes with better farm up faster get into the BKB even sooner here.
[06:49:32] Mid-gang, meeting in the BKB next we saw that with
[06:49:35] the Requiem fear he was pushed out of his ultimate last time not a fun interaction for
[06:49:42] him neither is this incapacitating bite the frost armor is once again up for the chen
[06:49:47] another very obnoxious spell for the monkey king
[06:49:51] the whole time you're getting some of your armor reduced if you're not in the
[06:49:54] wukong you just get bursted from acid spray plus presence presence.
[06:50:03] Looks like they're going to stick around on this side of the map
[06:50:05] try and take wisdom rune
[06:50:07] on both sides
[06:50:09] liquid are very clearly set up.
[06:50:12] There's a lot of vision here. Sentry obs trapped for the evoker,
[06:50:16] should grab him and... Lightning air into blastoffing double mine explosion will do
[06:50:20] the kill! Surprised we dropped the blue pong's command there they got a reaction
[06:50:24] out of game gladiators so they'll call quits on trying to steal the wisdom room
[06:50:29] just say that the kill on ancicients and an Invoker is good enough.
[06:50:35] So we see Drumblad's out of the Chen,
[06:50:37] Greaves done on the Brood,
[06:50:39] Daemon have four big auras which are all really nice for their big right clickers here
[06:50:44] look at her trying to match it drum on the elder titan with pipe on the brew
[06:50:51] and she was being built by the sand king actually they have double drum on the side of liquid
[06:50:56] got him on the gliden here quick dispel but they have to follow up with the stop
[06:51:01] the blast off the burrow strike there's no lacking in stunts for Liquid.
[06:51:04] That's for sure.
[06:51:07] Those types of kills are very efficient
[06:51:09] for their lineup. They would love a lot more
[06:51:11] than this game.
[06:51:13] It's kind of the idea that whole, like, 10-15 minute window
[06:51:16] where they were struggling to find kills.
[06:51:19] Yeah, but if you look at these networks
[06:51:20] this has arguably been the best position
[06:51:22] with Ben versus game in this entire event.
[06:51:25] Yeah, they're down by 7k and it's an alchemist lineup so i mean
[06:51:28] doubt 7k and this you may as well be pushing gaiman's base sheba's complete for nisha
[06:51:34] and uh they can taste victory right now.
[06:51:39] Guys, we have two or three years off.
[06:51:42] Gaming Gladiators by the way
[06:51:43] have I believe 10 wins in under 35 minutes at this event.
[06:51:49] I think Liquid are probably full-stack too though
[06:51:51] to be fair.
[06:51:52] Yeah! Quinn gets the timing perfectly man
[06:51:55] well set up.
[06:51:57] Tornado from Tofu you don't need blink yules for this sf that was just crisp
[06:52:04] absolutely beautiful combination here even at illusion
[06:52:09] this doesn't even get anything off you
[06:52:11] and there's some variable timings there too
[06:52:15] yeah that's not the
[06:52:17] Kaya Yasha Kaya, Yasha-Kaya.
[06:52:19] And the tornado lift is only for various amounts of time depending on levels.
[06:52:25] Pure feel.
[06:52:26] He's gotta use his ult for fear of what else is coming!
[06:52:29] And it's Gwyn who tries to back up Tofu's play there,
[06:52:32] but Liquid have the backup from Nikkei.
[06:52:34] Nikkei has already killed Tofu.
[06:52:35] So gaming gladiators get on out.
[06:52:39] Still this Aegis for a minute.
[06:52:43] You got the BKB on the shadow being wukong down
[06:52:49] gaiman don't really have interest in pushing maybe don't want to give this big fight to
[06:52:52] a lot of the aoE control that Liquid have.
[06:52:53] Like, when you push into them,
[06:52:54] you do have to be careful.
[06:52:56] There's their Stomp, Earth Splitter, Sandstorm,
[06:52:59] Epicenter, Brewmaster, Ulti Haze, Grease Pipe.
[06:53:02] Liquid have definitely built themselves up to combat what Gaming are trying to do against them
[06:53:04] and it is working a little bit here
[06:53:06] they're a lot more confident to take these fights
[06:53:09] go look for plays
[06:53:10] this ward in the corner, it is very well set up
[06:53:13] for them to go
[06:53:14] for another kill
[06:53:15] not just on Ace
[06:53:16] but maybe Celery as well
[06:53:18] as they're going
[06:53:18] to find that bro strike.
[06:53:19] Lead open
[06:53:20] on the Broodmother
[06:53:21] with a blast off
[06:53:21] follow-up
[06:53:22] trying to get
[06:53:22] Hurricane away,
[06:53:23] but he's still stomped.
[06:53:24] A Mine goes off.
[06:53:25] Glitner catched and bound
[06:53:25] the Shrike.
[06:53:26] They're stretching out
[06:53:27] trying to get this kill
[06:53:28] and they do manage
[06:53:28] again this time around
[06:53:29] when Mickey is committed
[06:53:30] into Totee.
[06:53:31] One raise, two raise
[06:53:31] pops a BKB.
[06:53:32] Can he get the Lifesteal
[06:53:33] off?
[06:53:33] The Life Seal is not going to be good enough
[06:53:35] as a pure damage Sunstrike cuts through that.
[06:53:37] Now 33 on the run has a Primal Split.
[06:53:41] Are they going to try and turn this around?
[06:53:44] Is he going to have to use a primal split
[06:53:45] just to be able to escape here.
[06:53:47] Gaming gladiators are gonna force it out of him
[06:53:50] And he'll use the split
[06:53:52] They're chasing here
[06:53:53] They've got the fire panda okay push up go to try gate on all of
[06:53:58] the pandas the earth one managed to make it prove
[06:54:01] how far can he make in five more seconds put a next level play
[06:54:05] he forced his own EarthBand off the hill and he spotted, oh after all that I mean it was a sick move
[06:54:13] He'll buy more time but a blink from Quinn puts it right on 33 as he went for the TP.
[06:54:18] And they'll finally catch him.
[06:54:20] That was kind of a sick escape though.
[06:54:22] Honestly I thought he had almost no way out of there at 33 showing off some
[06:54:26] sick micro here, but it is all for not as gaming eventually find their prey
[06:54:35] And this team fight struggles for Liquid continue.
[06:54:38] Just can't find their footing in these full-on exchanges
[06:54:41] in terms of winning that long fight.
[06:54:44] I mean, how many times have we seen Liquid
[06:54:45] just all in for a kill that they can't quite get easily.
[06:54:51] I mean, they got Ace in the end
[06:54:53] but it committed Micke to death.
[06:54:57] Very hard for Micke to stand there and just deliver when he's up against Radiance, Incapacitating
[06:55:02] Bite.
[06:55:03] The second his PKB is out, he's just food if you haven't won the fight by that point.
[06:55:07] This Monkey King just needs more scale right now.
[06:55:09] He was trying to get it through an Aghanim Scepter. This Monkey King just needs more scale right now.
[06:55:11] He's trying to get it through an Agatep Scepter.
[06:55:14] Almost gets caught slipping back into his base off of a very deep board placed by Tofu.
[06:55:17] The Broodlings are also just being micro'd out
[06:55:19] the Scout here from ace
[06:55:21] lets these advanced parties feel a bit more secure and
[06:55:26] well, they do not need ages to hit these buildings confident in their bkbs
[06:55:33] You can see off there they're ward positioning one behind the tier two bottom another
[06:55:36] one leading around that tier 2 mid they are trying to lock Liquid in right now.
[06:55:46] You just start to feel the damage here for Liquid
[06:55:48] to defend these towers with pick off attempts?
[06:55:52] Little pickoff from Durantio with his blink dagger, these towers. We'll pick off a little
[06:55:52] pickoff here from Dorachio
[06:55:53] with his blink dagger reveal
[06:55:55] the tanky man there's no help
[06:55:57] nobody can punish
[06:55:59] The Alchemist diving to your
[06:56:01] twos i think
[06:56:06] salary's just gonna make sure this
[06:56:07] bottom lane stays in which is going to
[06:56:08] allow gaiman to rotate across the map
[06:56:10] here set up on something else easy
[06:56:13] pickings here with the Ghost Walk.
[06:56:14] Do we have any detection here?
[06:56:15] Box, he's just sitting under a Ghost Walk.
[06:56:17] He knows it.
[06:56:19] And there is Nisha nearby,
[06:56:21] but on the other side, Quinn.
[06:56:22] Man, dropped the Requiem on him.
[06:56:24] Yeah. Assuming that
[06:56:25] I guess there were more heroes around which he wasn't wrong
[06:56:27] Nisha was in the neighborhood
[06:56:29] And Celery continues to live
[06:56:33] on your side of the map. His champion enchantress it's just his mo
[06:56:38] i mean look at the dire wards right now compared to radiant yeah like the value is not even close
[06:56:42] game and see almost everything they wanted right now whereas liquid they have
[06:56:47] one rating on this bottom lane and they can't really get back to it here
[06:56:53] just taken over the map during in the last three minutes.
[06:56:57] Teamfight item picked up, Nisha gets
[06:56:59] BKB
[06:57:01] Will Liquid try and use
[06:57:03] that timing? Do we have a smoke to be able
[06:57:05] take advantage of it? I think you have to if you're Liquid.
[06:57:08] You can't just keep waiting in this game
[06:57:10] for them to go into you
[06:57:11] and find that crazy turnaround.
[06:57:14] Got to use the Sand King offensively.
[06:57:15] You do pick up a Basher
[06:57:16] from Monkey King at the same time, so you're synchronizing
[06:57:19] some fighting power here. If you can get
[06:57:20] some clutch bashes on this
[06:57:22] Monkey King, could make all the difference.
[06:57:24] You get real lucky and stop SF
[06:57:26] Requiem from going off but this is the problem that warding difference
[06:57:33] you just see so little right now it's very hard to judge where you should smoke if
[06:57:36] your liquid yeah and of course gaming they see so far in a lot of these lanes it's like
[06:57:41] okay well no one's farming mid nolan's farming top i mean they're probably making a move guys
[06:57:45] and they just clump that crimson guard is going to block so much of the damage
[06:57:50] of the Monkey King now.
[06:57:52] It's a very strong item here.
[06:57:55] Crimson Angreaves to back up this Alkaness
[06:57:57] that we're already creating an armor differential here
[06:57:59] with the present slash acid spray.
[06:58:02] Between the wards and the spiders, so much vision from gaming gladiators
[06:58:07] and liquid probably right not to push into that jungle area.
[06:58:11] Game of Gladiators is going to push back into you, though.
[06:58:14] Nisha left him behind.
[06:58:15] He's got to break the smoke.
[06:58:16] He gets targeted.
[06:58:17] Now he has a shield room.
[06:58:18] He's very tanky, but is he tank enough
[06:58:20] to deal with a Requiem?
[06:58:22] Is Madge Requiem at that? Not at all.
[06:58:25] No BKB Sanking, this fight is already on the back foot for Liquid
[06:58:29] And Tarantino's gonna force it
[06:58:30] Mickey is forced to use his Wukong's command
[06:58:32] and hope that the
[06:58:33] Glidener can lock him in long enough, but he's not.
[06:58:35] Now, can he find any room to hop away or get it up
[06:58:39] to the high ground?
[06:58:40] Silence is wearing out good stuff from Insania before before staffs might have just failed them out here
[06:58:46] but not everybody insania dorachio's just done a really great job of like
[06:58:51] these fights they know their one and Dorachio always finds
[06:58:55] an extra hero going backward
[06:58:56] chemical rage oh Dorachio
[06:58:59] pushed too far this time around
[06:59:00] just tearing into the tier 2s like that but he can't
[06:59:02] wait until the force staff comes out again.
[06:59:05] Liquid baited into an idea
[06:59:07] that they could have the damage
[06:59:08] what they just do not in game at Gladiators.
[06:59:10] Just like that have wiped you maybe.
[06:59:13] 33 making a run.
[06:59:15] Oh, there's going to be another Unstable Concoction
[06:59:17] Another Orc and another round of spells
[06:59:19] And that's a team-wide game in Gladiators
[06:59:23] Do you think anything else was gonna happen at at 30 minutes i mean they were looking for a tarantula
[06:59:28] throw but there is no such thing in this series absolutely nothing has been free for liquid
[06:59:34] overcome middle on an alchemist that seemed out of position.
[06:59:37] Nah, we have the ability to bail him out here, sayGaymon.
[06:59:40] And once more it's a fight lost
[06:59:42] on the wrong part of the map for Liquid.
[06:59:44] Butthorn lots of damage!
[06:59:46] Nisha! BKb has to be used now you have nine seconds nothing
[06:59:53] to defend the base and 20 seconds left on the monkey king that is a full lane call it 30 minutes if you want
[07:00:02] gaming gladiators
[07:00:07] we do it again, man.
[07:00:09] They're just unstoppable when this team is in form.
[07:00:11] You cannot make mistakes.
[07:00:13] You just cannot slip up on the map.
[07:00:15] You can't give them breathing room
[07:00:17] because they take so much away from you
[07:00:21] they demand perfection out of their opponents or else they will end the game early they've
[07:00:27] done it not just a liquid they've done it to so many other
[07:00:31] teams. They did it to Falcons that
[07:00:32] game two and three, full 30-minute victories.
[07:00:36] They've proven
[07:00:37] they can do this
[07:00:38] to anyone. It's a nice setup from Liquid, maybe not expected but...
[07:00:43] ...Biters giving it a little bit of a shout out.
[07:00:45] Chivas goes out for a strike leading on to Ace.
[07:00:47] Blast off, all winging up with their they're separating targets here as Mickey jumps in.
[07:00:52] What is he going to do with this one?
[07:00:54] Foxes BKB and starts backing away.
[07:00:56] And back at him.
[07:00:57] Retreat is death for Liquid.
[07:01:00] Death for at least one.
[07:01:01] Foxy's got the first one down wukong span goes out and i shoot
[07:01:05] we're hopping away from this one liquid trying to retreat but got him on the bloodthorn in unstable
[07:01:10] concoction drop a wreck with no weight gets tossed up in the air by the Storm
[07:01:13] Panda. Nick Ake will eventually get burned out
[07:01:15] though and now back on solid ground
[07:01:17] Quinn drops that Requiem
[07:01:19] for the final touch in this team fight
[07:01:21] liquid
[07:01:22] Stomp from Insania touch in this team fight. Liquid is stomped
[07:01:24] from Insania, but he'll
[07:01:26] be run down eventually by
[07:01:28] something. He tries to go for the neutral creep
[07:01:30] tonight. It'll be three dead on the side of Liquid
[07:01:32] at the end.
[07:01:34] They just cannot sync the of Liquid at the end. They just cannot sink
[07:01:35] the control up
[07:01:36] with the damage.
[07:01:36] There's nothing to drop
[07:01:37] a Wukong on here.
[07:01:38] Gaiman are able
[07:01:39] to kite it out.
[07:01:40] There's no threat
[07:01:40] to the BKBs early,
[07:01:41] so they can just
[07:01:42] hold onto them.
[07:01:43] Didn't even need
[07:01:44] a Requiem really
[07:01:44] to win that exchange.
[07:01:46] And his second time
[07:01:47] the game of Gladiators
[07:01:47] may win the game off
[07:01:48] one Aegis because
[07:01:49] they're not going back
[07:01:51] for the second.
[07:01:51] I mean, why waste time
[07:01:52] killing Roche when you can
[07:01:53] not waste time
[07:01:55] ending the game
[07:01:59] this push has come together at the 30 minute mark maybe a little slower of
[07:02:03] a death ball but it got there in the end.
[07:02:07] And now you're just lacking the damage.
[07:02:09] Monkey King did not find
[07:02:11] the momentum he was
[07:02:13] looking for in this game. He did not find
[07:02:14] it at Game 1 either.
[07:02:18] And this was supposed to be one of your better tools against gaming. Supposed to be one of the faster carries who can fight early, make
[07:02:23] rotations and match that speed. It's been a struggle.
[07:02:31] Two lanes, barracks down. Game of Gladiators
[07:02:33] will now back up to take Roshan
[07:02:36] and Abyssal Blade next for durachio we've got
[07:02:41] so many items a lot of gaming gladiators with a 30 000 net worth lead i just don't know how you
[07:02:46] control these heroes double four staffs up on the supports, boots
[07:02:49] of Bering for Celery as well. There's so
[07:02:51] much disengage.
[07:02:53] You have to find a chain stun here
[07:02:55] under an ET Spirit.
[07:02:57] Liquid's desperate to try and contest Roshan here,
[07:03:00] Game of Gladiators isn't doing it, they're setting up for a team fight
[07:03:02] And they found that opportunity! They burned the mana out of the Brewmaster!
[07:03:07] That is trouble! Still has 10 seconds left until he has split anyway but it doesn't have mana right now
[07:03:12] has to use the greaves here just to get it back
[07:03:17] and look at the illusions that's just getting full read of everything Liquid is doing right now and burning away
[07:03:23] on him.
[07:03:24] I mean you have a damn damage rune for mid-game, it's wearing out!
[07:03:27] You've got 10 seconds left if you couldn't take the fight with this.
[07:03:30] Doesn't get better for now he just cannot find the
[07:03:34] initiation they're read every step of the way by ace who spreads his spiders all over and by
[07:03:40] the way game if they do not have to force anything here because that top wave is hitting tier fours.
[07:03:44] Liquid are the ones under pressure to make the move.
[07:03:47] The war goes off. Tofu walking...
[07:03:51] Sits up on a high ground, Liquid running into him.
[07:03:53] But sweep around the side here.
[07:03:57] Mickey's going to try and go off the corner
[07:03:58] to get a good Wukong command inside of the Roshan pit.
[07:04:01] Game of Gladiators can see background though
[07:04:08] okay on the back side they're gonna look for nikkei
[07:04:15] doesn't show himself drachio stunning. Again, pressure's on Liquid to start the fight though.
[07:04:17] He's gonna start on Mikkei
[07:04:19] so he can get out that PKP
[07:04:21] Mikkei is going to hold onto it
[07:04:23] Epicenter is going to be used right. Durachio comes into it,
[07:04:25] but Durachio is very tanky
[07:04:27] and he shrugs off the damage rather easily
[07:04:28] when Wukong's command goes out
[07:04:29] but look at that already outside of it!
[07:04:31] No real damage whatsoever
[07:04:33] from that Wukong's command
[07:04:34] and if you don't have the Wukong's command. And if
[07:04:36] you don't have the Wukong's command, where
[07:04:38] is the damage going to come from if you're liquid?
[07:04:41] I did just have to get out.
[07:04:42] No Wukong, no Earth Splitter,
[07:04:44] no Epicenter.
[07:04:46] And you traded it all for some BKBs
[07:04:49] and a Tier 4 damage.
[07:04:50] It's full concession from Liquid. You can have
[07:04:53] the Roadshot Gaming Gladiators. gaming gladiators
[07:04:59] and you just cheese
[07:05:02] by the way there's already a refresher
[07:05:03] up on this shadow theme so you got to
[07:05:05] deal with double
[07:05:05] aggs requiem here with the bonus souls
[07:05:08] and we've just seen a decent amount of them yeah i was going to mention 33. this
[07:05:13] sf requiem is hitting incredibly hard right now.
[07:05:18] I mean, hey! 33 souls he collected
[07:05:21] from 33 here.
[07:05:23] Everything fitting in a cursed world
[07:05:27] for Liquid right now.
[07:05:28] They cannot escape their fate it would seem
[07:05:31] no no we can't 33 is hoping that uh four radiances will change the game frame somehow.
[07:05:41] Meanwhile, Ace
[07:05:42] finds more auras to buy.
[07:05:45] Bought the first Crimson Guard of
[07:05:47] Broodmother.
[07:05:49] Now gets an AC ac so if the damage block wasn't enough there you've got some extra
[07:05:55] armor so again they can't seem to keep the heroes inside of the wu kong cement but even if
[07:06:03] they did much of the damage would be shrugged off by the many auras obtained gladiators
[07:06:08] by the way that's a uh amp damage route on the Shadow Fiend.
[07:06:14] We're going to watch a hero disappear here. Oh wait, no!
[07:06:17] A little off the mark there.
[07:06:18] Okay, he's got a second one. That's true, that's true.
[07:06:21] Maybe they don't know. I, I've got a refresher
[07:06:23] guys. Alacrity catapult is
[07:06:24] going down. Quinn's
[07:06:26] not gonna go for it and
[07:06:28] gets burned out 33 now they go for it but
[07:06:30] the strike hit him with the Burrow Strike.
[07:06:32] Cast off so many stunts!
[07:06:34] Can't they do this?
[07:06:35] Earth Splitter cuts down the SF now for Dorachio.
[07:06:38] Dorachio with his BKB walking back gets bashed up and one Quinn
[07:06:41] But Quinn already got out with an Orgrseal Totem
[07:06:43] and a BKB. He's out of the Wukong's command
[07:06:45] and Liquid... do they dare to pursue?
[07:06:49] It was so scary to chase. They're trying to!
[07:06:51] There's still a Requiem up.
[07:06:53] Durantje comes back in for a Force Staff up to the high ground.
[07:06:55] Nice play by Boxy. Gets
[07:06:57] the initiation out of Duraccio without
[07:06:59] dying.
[07:07:01] I thought Quinn was gonna go back in there.
[07:07:03] Daemon are respecting the team fight of Liquid here.
[07:07:07] Maybe just don't want to play the fight
[07:07:08] without the BKB on the Shadow Beam
[07:07:10] to guarantee that Requiem pop.
[07:07:12] Very fast stuns from Liquid salvage that fight,
[07:07:15] but Dorachio...
[07:07:16] This man does not care.
[07:07:18] Nope, you used a bunch of spells
[07:07:20] and you couldn't kill Dorachio the first time around.
[07:07:23] He doesn't think you have it in you
[07:07:25] to be able to do a second go without wukong's man
[07:07:29] that epicenter and he may be right about this one as he starts shipping away at
[07:07:33] the melee barracks the only thing remaining between liquid and mega creeps have to defend
[07:07:40] this racks you have to be careful about when you go in with the stunts if you go
[07:07:43] in with boundless slash burrow it opens up opportunity for that ref room to come out they created on a nice edge trying
[07:07:52] to make something magical happen here just being a nuisance.
[07:07:58] We'll chip away a little bit more
[07:07:59] at them melee barracks.
[07:08:00] I mean,
[07:08:01] if they want to slow siege this,
[07:08:02] they can.
[07:08:03] They absolutely can, yeah.
[07:08:04] Just do it with every alchold
[07:08:05] Every time he gets stunned
[07:08:06] forced half him out
[07:08:07] you will eventually get Megas here so
[07:08:09] we're going to have to do something offensive
[07:08:11] Dorachou could also just full-in commit with his BKB
[07:08:13] Also possible yeah
[07:08:15] and it looks like he's gonna go for it
[07:08:17] They have a Glyph, Liquid
[07:08:19] hit the Stomp
[07:08:22] The Glyph not
[07:08:26] going to be used. Liquid are just saying
[07:08:28] half Megas
[07:08:29] We're in it for the long haul and they have Liquid are just saying, have megas.
[07:08:30] We're in it for the long haul
[07:08:31] and we have made it to 39 minutes.
[07:08:38] I guess that's the long hole?
[07:08:40] Yeah, I guess. You know what know just try and stretch this game out to 16.
[07:08:44] turn it around even checking for the little uphill wards here with sunstrike
[07:08:56] everything on point but of course game Gladiators not one to stretch things
[07:09:03] out. They got Amegas.
[07:09:05] They can chill if they wanted to, but they won't.
[07:09:08] I don't think Dorachio knows
[07:09:09] what the word chill means.
[07:09:10] Certainly not. This man is trying to speedrun another
[07:09:13] grand final here. On to
[07:09:15] another objective!
[07:09:18] Tier 4s.
[07:09:26] TPs are back up. They could look for aggressive jumps. Only person on the map right now is Mikkei on this Monkey, desperately trying to find some neutral tokens and more gold.
[07:09:33] Yeah you got tier 4s to get.
[07:09:35] Those are big upgrades.
[07:09:37] Alacrity's four spirits continue
[07:09:38] to whittle down these towers.
[07:09:40] And Dorshow lost his courier actually.
[07:09:44] Aghanim's on the Elder Titan but there's also a Divine Rapier about to be purchased by Mikke.
[07:09:51] If his team could just hold on for like a minute or two.
[07:09:55] But it's coming fast, man.
[07:09:57] Duraccio has already chopped out one of these tier fours
[07:09:59] and the second one is falling fast.
[07:10:02] 33, he's trying to draw some attention.
[07:10:04] You're going to have to pop that primal split.
[07:10:05] A stomp? insania starts punching
[07:10:07] it there goes the old requiem not really doing too much but clearing out some brew links an epicenter
[07:10:12] that also doesn't do too much as nisha fails the initiation they're're gonna wait out these ults.
[07:10:18] Maybe recognize Divine Rapier on this Monkey King.
[07:10:21] Yeah, he's surely spotted now.
[07:10:25] Still a refresher on the Shadow Beam.
[07:10:28] If you chase on the side of Liquid,
[07:10:30] You have to keep it in mind.
[07:10:32] He's got the level 20 talent as well
[07:10:34] The Boundless Strike critical damage
[07:10:36] So with this Divine Rapier it is significant upgrade in
[07:10:41] damage. But can one spell change the
[07:10:44] fate of Liquid?
[07:10:47] Especially if Gaiman just decided to
[07:10:48] wait for another Roshan here.
[07:10:49] They're not exactly under too much pressure to...
[07:10:51] ...to end this game.
[07:10:55] Maybe just Dorachio telling them I want to, but...
[07:11:03] They can play it safe. Get some Tier 4 neutral tokens of their own.
[07:11:07] Yeah get level 25 on Alchemist with Overwhelming Blink. I mean this is
[07:11:11] just your human sentry here
[07:11:13] as well right? Yeah. Like Liquid
[07:11:15] can never make a move through this Ghost Walk and
[07:11:16] Poker. If it's not Celery in the early
[07:11:19] game it's Tofu in the late game, It's tofu and a light game.
[07:11:20] One of these gaming gladiators supports
[07:11:23] is always getting information off you.
[07:11:26] That's like the old school patrol key,
[07:11:28] You know?
[07:11:29] Yeah.
[07:11:31] Look at the tormentor Yeah. We'll use a Tormentor.
[07:11:35] I'm not sure if there's an Aghanim Shard
[07:11:38] in the game
[07:11:39] that will help Liquid enough, but the game. That will
[07:11:42] help Liquid enough, but
[07:11:44] it's the same games.
[07:11:48] A little bit of extra epicenter pulse with his
[07:11:50] 20 talent as well.
[07:11:53] NickA is going to try and pick up his shards so
[07:11:55] then he can use that boundless strike
[07:11:57] to close the gap on...
[07:12:01] You're going for SF?
[07:12:05] Is that the best target?
[07:12:06] I think that's the best one for sure if you could snag it.
[07:12:08] He's got all these bonus souls
[07:12:09] and everything.
[07:12:11] It's very difficult
[07:12:12] to get on top of the shadow beam good time
[07:12:14] to get a little recap of what game and gladiators have been up to since the last five minutes
[07:12:21] and uh it's been living inside of liquid space. That's what they've been up to.
[07:12:27] Very little openings.
[07:12:28] It does look like a patrol.
[07:12:30] You just hit the Patrol key, go back and forth on the ramp.
[07:12:37] Well,
[07:12:38] he did get your auras on the Brewmaster.
[07:12:41] Yeah, apparently he's abandoned
[07:12:42] the Radiance. Auras are broken, right?
[07:12:45] Yeah, well, when you're one aura item behind at all times
[07:12:51] gaming gladiators aura maxing to the core
[07:12:57] get that lead.
[07:13:00] It's 2 or 3k.
[07:13:01] They get that first aura item, they use
[07:13:03] that to get a bigger lead, another
[07:13:05] aura item and it extends and extends.
[07:13:09] And there is
[07:13:10] no shortage of
[07:13:12] Aura items to buy.
[07:13:16] Shortage
[07:13:16] of camps to farm, getting level 25 now between the SF and the Alchemist.
[07:13:21] Some nice late game talents here.
[07:13:23] So we got the Instacast Requiem now if he uses Feast of Souls.
[07:13:28] And the movement speed here means you sell
[07:13:29] the boots, fully six-sly yourself
[07:13:31] Nullifier and Strength Link now up
[07:13:33] for this Alchemist so there's
[07:13:35] very little you can do to save the targets he jumps
[07:13:37] He wants to commit in.
[07:13:41] And Roche is back,
[07:13:43] will be instantly scouted by a Broodling.
[07:13:49] No hard part is it.
[07:13:50] I feel like nowadays teams are so disciplined
[07:13:53] that nobody just,
[07:13:54] uh...
[07:13:55] Nobody gets caught inside the Roshan pit anymore.
[07:13:57] Maybe it's a difference in where the pit is,
[07:13:59] you know, being on the corner as opposed to
[07:14:01] the older days of being closer to the middle
[07:14:03] of the back.
[07:14:03] But just feels like
[07:14:04] the winning team is
[07:14:07] pretty much guaranteed
[07:14:09] to be either taking Roshan
[07:14:13] or they take a fight outside of the Roshan pit
[07:14:16] where they're sitting in some trees
[07:14:19] or some high ground.
[07:14:20] The enemy team has to walk into them
[07:14:22] very difficult to go up the ramp unless you can get vision there very hard to
[07:14:25] give vision there unless you have someone who's an insane
[07:14:28] frontliner most of times if you're behind in the
[07:14:31] current meta you don't have those things.
[07:14:35] So this will be Aegis on the Shadow Fiend.
[07:14:37] And Ace is going to get a BKB?
[07:14:39] Yeah, he went...
[07:14:40] Where's that 6th aura?
[07:14:43] What does the Exodiavora sound like? that's six dora
[07:14:47] i mean what is the exodia of auras i don't know you should already bought all the other ones yeah exactly that's from I know.
[07:14:56] Wraith Bat is missing one.
[07:14:58] Tier 4 down, thrown exposed.
[07:15:01] Gaming Gladiators have every advantage you could possibly hope for to close out this game.
[07:15:06] They're going to lead off, trying to get it.
[07:15:08] Oh!
[07:15:08] Still got off the record win thanks to the BKB despite that quick jump in from Nisha.
[07:15:13] The burrow strike hit at the same time as Quinn went in, but
[07:15:15] Quinn went in safely with a BKB. They got one buyback out of Lickett
[07:15:20] and many more ults to go
[07:15:23] Do lose the banner
[07:15:25] Massive blow here for the push true very disciplined exchange from gaming
[07:15:32] take a five buyback and reset although this with 40k net worth lead.
[07:15:37] Nikkei's gonna have a Vista Blade, so if he can get the jump on somebody
[07:15:41] with this Defiant Rapier maybe he could pop them.
[07:15:43] ForceNav trying to get him out of the way for 33.
[07:15:45] Just no Flyer can't get away.
[07:15:48] No buy!
[07:15:49] It's a 4 versus 5 now with an Aegis on Game and Gladiators
[07:15:52] at 40,000 net worth lead
[07:15:54] And they're throwing a half HP
[07:15:55] A jump onto Duraccio
[07:15:57] Duraccio is forcing the attention of Liquid
[07:15:59] on to him.
[07:16:00] McCay, wins he gonna hit this foul
[07:16:01] and the Shryde goes for it
[07:16:02] but got hit by the Requiem at the same time!
[07:16:04] Quinn's back up with full health
[07:16:05] and they'll chase after Insania
[07:16:06] for the dieback
[07:16:08] Now its two Nisha with a PKB throw striking out of
[07:16:11] the base but you're thrown is dead!
[07:16:14] 2-0 now for Gaming Gladiators Grand Finals.
[07:16:19] They have been here before as well.
[07:16:21] We saw only one team come back in the history of
[07:16:25] Game and Gladiator Grand Finals from this position.
[07:16:29] It was Azurearae at KL
[07:16:30] earlier this year, and they
[07:16:32] reverse-flecked it. And
[07:16:34] I'll just say,
[07:16:36] Dragiu did call that he was going to 3-0
[07:16:38] this final. That is true. And he did say that against Aj this final. That is true. And, he did say that against Adjarae.
[07:16:42] That is true. So, we'll see if
[07:16:43] he jinxed himself. However,
[07:16:45] these are very different circumstances.
[07:16:48] Yeah, I hope so.
[07:16:49] What do you mean? You know, I think Liquid has also been here before
[07:16:52] and are maybe starting to get some flashbacks.
[07:16:56] Some very unpleasant flashbacks right now
[07:16:59] about watching another team lift the trophy that they have longed for for a very long time
[07:17:07] this would be another crushing defeat for them
[07:17:10] to be this close once more and lose it to the same team again
[07:17:13] in the same way. At some point
[07:17:16] you have to question what your reality
[07:17:18] is and whether you're going insane. I feel like
[07:17:20] I'm going insane
[07:17:21] watching this play out.
[07:17:25] The story of Sisyphus continues for a liquid as the boulder is just about to roll back down the hill for them in their attempt
[07:17:36] to win another Grand Finals.
[07:17:38] Down 0-2 against Gaming Gladiators.
[07:17:42] Gaming Gladiators, can we just take a moment, Cazu,
[07:17:45] to appreciate how insane these guys are?
[07:17:49] Yeah I think we can and we have to because it's not
[07:17:51] just about the drafts and what they do with their auras
[07:17:54] going together in 10 or 15.
[07:17:56] You make the first move on them,
[07:17:57] they dodge it.
[07:17:58] They make that first move on you,
[07:17:59] they succeed.
[07:18:00] You get your blink dagger
[07:18:01] and Celery does some playmate
[07:18:02] where he baits it,
[07:18:03] pushes himself away...
[07:18:05] It's all the small little things
[07:18:07] which ultimately is what gives them the lead later on.
[07:18:09] This game was looking a bit more competitive
[07:18:12] at least for the first 10 minutes?
[07:18:16] Yeah they weren't even that... They were
[07:18:17] behind 1k gold against an outliner
[07:18:19] at minute ten, eleven, twelve.
[07:18:21] That's not a big problem but the problem is when
[07:18:23] they dodge your moves, they get their Auras
[07:18:25] and go together to hit their timings. I just feel like there's a little
[07:18:28] bit of maybe the clutchness factor
[07:18:30] missing for Liquid to succeed with their
[07:18:32] moves. I don't know if it's game in or they're just out moving
[07:18:34] you so hard that you can't make any
[07:18:36] of those moves but they need to find an answer for the next game.
[07:18:39] And they did also got gamed
[07:18:41] a little bit in the draft with
[07:18:42] Shadow Fiend last pick coming out.
[07:18:44] I didn't see it coming. I don't think they
[07:18:47] saw it coming either. I think going to the next game maybe just
[07:18:49] maybe you have to remove the chen or pick something where instead of taking these
[07:18:53] long fights you can be like boom we're gonna take a fast fight bad rider with
[07:18:57] a timber saw pure damage i don't know what it is!
[07:18:59] It's up to them to figure it out.
[07:19:00] Okay, quick question...
[07:19:02] Why doesn't Liquid play Chen or Enchantress if it's so good?
[07:19:07] Apparently they don't want to play it.
[07:19:10] I don't know.
[07:19:13] Seems like they're missing out!
[07:19:14] They are missing out, but then you need
[07:19:15] to find a different answer because sometimes
[07:19:17] play to your strengths...
[07:19:18] I feel right now they're trying
[07:19:19] the match game and maybe
[07:19:20] they can find a way to stick to their comfort
[07:19:21] while finding the answer against what they need to do.
[07:19:24] So is it just that simple?
[07:19:25] It starts from the draft, but it's not...
[07:19:27] Because the thing is,
[07:19:28] it's not just drafting we see this every time
[07:19:29] it's like all they need to do
[07:19:30] is deal with this hero and theraft and we say this every time. It's like all they need to do is deal with
[07:19:32] this hero in the drafts and be prepared for that
[07:19:34] hero on their radar but then
[07:19:36] a game comes along
[07:19:38] and maybe you know they have a shot
[07:19:40] and start off really strong but the gameplay itself yeah it's
[07:19:43] it is not it is not just a draft there's game play it's all the small things like we're saying
[07:19:47] where they dodge your move like there's something on stage or in their grand finals when you go
[07:19:51] against gaming it just looks like your moves are harder to do. You need to be faster, more decisive
[07:19:55] have better setup and they're missing out on that right now. Yeah we did see quite a few
[07:19:59] couple of clutches of course the stun from the Racho and TheAlchemist as he was about to potentially
[07:20:06] die when his chemical rage ended. And then very early on there was another cool play
[07:20:10] by The Rod Show and it is BSJ that would like to tell us more about that.
[07:20:16] Thank you, Sheever
[07:20:17] as the story of this tournament for Gaiman has been the laning phase
[07:20:20] and teams struggling to get past it
[07:20:22] in this game I wanted to break down something
[07:20:24] that befuddled me a little bit
[07:20:25] as the casters were befuddled themselves of how Duraccio was having such
[07:20:29] a seemingly tough early game but how they managed to come back partially
[07:20:33] due to the mistakes of Liquid.
[07:20:34] So we're going to start off my first clip by showing
[07:20:37] a nice casual self-stunned secure the range creep for Duraccio and you're gonna see that
[07:20:42] he's already died once, and once he dies here as we
[07:20:47] pause, we're going to see that his TP
[07:20:48] is on a 50 second cooldown.
[07:20:51] So you're like okay this guy's 0-2
[07:20:53] started the lane
[07:20:54] how does he end up being the number one net worth
[07:20:56] so convincingly later?
[07:20:58] So as we see,
[07:20:58] Duraccio has actually smoked his way
[07:21:00] back to lane.
[07:21:01] So he's going to be here
[07:21:02] a little bit earlier
[07:21:03] than Liquid is expecting
[07:21:04] because they knew
[07:21:05] his TP was on cooldown
[07:21:06] and they're going to decide to commit
[07:21:08] onto Celery here, 33 and Boxy.
[07:21:10] And, notice how Celery's level 3
[07:21:11] and Alchemist is only level 1.
[07:21:13] But, look at what happens after this.
[07:21:16] Durachio's going to take most of Boxy's HP
[07:21:18] and Boxy's going
[07:21:19] to barely escape,
[07:21:21] but this is something
[07:21:21] that you really shouldn't
[07:21:22] feel like should be happening
[07:21:23] if Duracho's only level one.
[07:21:25] So this is barely
[07:21:26] 30 seconds later.
[07:21:28] Boxy has salved up, you think okay
[07:21:31] maybe we can pressure Duraccio a little bit more
[07:21:33] Celery gets the pull off over here
[07:21:35] but they're gonna go on Celery again
[07:21:37] and I want to highlight that Boxy in 33 who have control of this lane so far, they're both sitting at full HP right now.
[07:21:43] And Duracho is barely level 2.
[07:21:45] So what happens here is they are going to go on Celery
[07:21:47] and they are gonna get the kill which seems great for Liquid and all, but look
[07:21:51] at the results after the play. We see
[07:21:52] Boxy that's going to drop below half,
[07:21:54] no mana from the tower,
[07:21:56] and 33 who's below half with
[07:21:58] no mana, and Duraccio.
[07:22:00] Full HP,
[07:22:01] half mana.
[07:22:02] Suddenly this lane is looking
[07:22:03] a little bit better for Duraccio.
[07:22:05] Then we pull up the next clip.
[07:22:07] Has Liquid learned their lesson yet?
[07:22:08] Let's find out.
[07:22:09] Duraccio and Celery,
[07:22:12] you see them actually setting up on Boxy for the blast off.
[07:22:14] They go on Celery again
[07:22:15] and there is going to be virtually no
[07:22:18] investment from Duraccio who, out of all of these
[07:22:20] engagements, has taken virtually no damage.
[07:22:23] So suddenly, after being 0-2 at a minute and half into the game
[07:22:26] Dorachio is the number one net worth only four minutes in
[07:22:30] And this is crucial part of what gets gaming off the ground they
[07:22:33] have such a tempo based lineup liquid perhaps choosing the wrong hero to be
[07:22:37] aggressive on will they mix up that approach in game three because they had
[07:22:41] a lot of things going for them in the first three minutes,
[07:22:43] but it's got to be more than good first three minutes
[07:22:46] just to take a game off of gaming.
[07:22:48] Let's check in with Purge and Fear
[07:22:50] to see what they're doing out in the audience.
[07:22:52] Thanks PSJA. Yeah I'm hanging out out with Fear and we're looking at this Club Champion trophy
[07:22:57] and the wall.
[07:22:58] I'm really excited to see what happens but so far it's looking a little one-sided.
[07:23:02] Yeah, Gaemond is one game away from getting their name on there.
[07:23:04] And Liquid really have to pull together as Ryan did say
[07:23:07] they had a good three minutes but they got to last longer
[07:23:09] than that against Gaming Gladys
[07:23:11] as this is a team that will run you over
[07:23:13] and the force plays They had a bunch of good team fight
[07:23:17] items and liquid just can't answer it i really had more hope at the start of the game though because
[07:23:22] they were pressuring dyrracha like brian pointed out And the mid lane wasn't looking so good.
[07:23:27] Quinn got two solo kills
[07:23:28] I believe. So it was like there's hope
[07:23:30] but why did the net worth not change?
[07:23:33] Like they were getting kills on the Gladiator
[07:23:34] heroes and just starting to know. It didn't bug.
[07:23:37] They just kept farming with Alchemist, right?
[07:23:39] And they made that one rotation to the portal
[07:23:41] to the bot lane and that changed everything
[07:23:43] it opened up the lane for Dorachio
[07:23:45] he got top net worth of the game, Quinn continued to have
[07:23:48] top net worth and then Ace yeah he didn't
[07:23:50] have a great game but those two cores just
[07:23:52] carried him through the mid game
[07:23:53] Yeah and then they just kept buying aura items which
[07:23:56] solidified the game so we'll see if
[07:23:58] the same thing happens in the next game we're going to jump
[07:24:00] to a break and when we come back game number three look i will
[07:24:04] pull it oh hello connecting Oh. I don't know. Hello?
[07:24:08] Connecting.
[07:24:10] He's connecting.
[07:24:11] Yeah, he'll catch up.
[07:24:13] Stunning him!
[07:24:14] I'm gigaslowing him!
[07:24:18] What?! what oh look it's all good so so so so so so so so so so so so It's the EWC and you want to play like a pro.
[07:26:45] We've got a lesson for you.
[07:26:47] Axon, your fresh ready to fight and grind those long hours. It's how it should be.
[07:26:53] Axe Off! You're slow, unfocused and lagging. Do you get it? Let's go again...
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[07:30:57] You always have been... stupid?
[07:30:59] We didn't figure that out yet. It was one of those pieces.
[07:31:02] Duh!
[07:31:03] It was always you, dear viewer. So thank you for joining me on this incredible journey to discover
[07:31:08] all the wonders of the riyadh boulevard and don't forget how special you are. Thanks for joining me! So, goodbye! so only one more game stands between gaming gladiators and winning the title
[07:31:45] the championship here at Rehab Masters live from
[07:31:48] the Esports World Cup. And that comes paired with
[07:31:52] 1.5 million dollars. It also comes
[07:31:56] paired with extra points for gaming gladiators
[07:31:59] for the club championship
[07:32:01] for which they still have a shot
[07:32:02] at making it very far as well over
[07:32:05] the next five weeks.
[07:32:07] But Team Liquid, they really, really
[07:32:09] prepared for this. But we have yet to see
[07:32:11] this preparation really pay off
[07:32:13] potentially in this game number three.
[07:32:15] We'll see it. I will say
[07:32:17] though, Gaiman is looking incredibly strong.
[07:32:19] Will Team Liquid be able to force out a next game in this best-of-five series?
[07:32:26] It's very much dependent on the draft that we're going to break down with Kezu, BSJ and Fear.
[07:32:32] For game number three, we'll have Team Liquid on the Dyrus side,
[07:32:35] we will have Gaming Gladiators on the Radiance side
[07:32:37] We have a change up! A big one!
[07:32:40] Snapfire and Hootwink still in the pool and we got three new bands well newish
[07:32:45] i should say in chen enchantress and the broodmother brewmaster there as well, TA and Sven banned out.
[07:32:53] But so far the one left in Kazoo
[07:32:56] is when you asked me about earlier it's Doom!
[07:32:58] I feel like they're either gonna first pick that
[07:33:01] or ban it away. I do like at least to change a 14
[07:33:04] liquid i will say that i don't think they're losing only on draft there's no way that that
[07:33:08] is the fact but you always want to make it more simple and i feel like when they're when they
[07:33:11] didn't ban the chain inch they, they never got trades. At least
[07:33:13] when you leave in the Weaver, Hoodwink, Snapfire, whatever
[07:33:15] you can trade. Then play your lanes and
[07:33:17] just let the skill kind of speak for itself
[07:33:19] because in the last games their laning stages
[07:33:21] in my opinion have not been on par i think brian you showed that also
[07:33:25] in your segment because something needs to change you know i'm gonna i'm gonna help some copium here
[07:33:30] as a last team to get reverse sweeped in the grand final was Game and Gladiators themselves.
[07:33:36] And you call Lomper against Azure Ray,
[07:33:38] and if anybody recalls game three,
[07:33:41] Game and Gladiators had a commanding lead
[07:33:43] and then one play turned that game
[07:33:45] I feel like shifted the entire momentum of that series.
[07:33:48] And based on what I saw from Team Liquid in Game 1
[07:33:51] during my analysis and also when I was combing through
[07:33:53] the early game, it just felt
[07:33:55] like they're forcing a lot of things. They feel
[07:33:58] panicked. They're doing...
[07:34:00] They're making uncharacteristic
[07:34:02] mistakes, and I almost feel like they've
[07:34:04] lost faith that they can trust that they can just
[07:34:06] play their own game, and it'll be enough.
[07:34:09] And I think one play in the mid-game of
[07:34:11] this game could
[07:34:12] shift the tides of that entire dynamic,
[07:34:15] so that's my copium for the series.
[07:34:17] Well they do go back to
[07:34:19] some of their ideasphere that
[07:34:21] started with Tiny on the first pick
[07:34:23] for Team Liquid.
[07:34:25] This is definitely their last chance
[07:34:28] here.
[07:34:29] Luckily it is a
[07:34:30] best of five they're
[07:34:30] trying multiple
[07:34:31] different angles
[07:34:32] here on how to
[07:34:33] crack the gaming
[07:34:34] gladiators code this
[07:34:35] time they decided
[07:34:36] it's going to be
[07:34:37] the chin brood
[07:34:37] enchantress we're going to ban out these heroes we's going to be the Chen, Brood and Chancher so we're gonna ban out these
[07:34:39] heroes. We're gonna leave in the OP supports
[07:34:41] that we lost to in game number one
[07:34:43] here. That is fine and we're just gonna
[07:34:45] probably make a trade. So they're going for
[07:34:47] what I see as the last angle here to try and beat gaming gliders
[07:34:50] will it work we'll have to see here and this is where things can be either
[07:34:55] very promising for you if you take this game like hey
[07:34:57] they're winning because of these heroes i I think we've figured out the formula
[07:35:00] or it's going to be very demoralizing and be like,
[07:35:02] we just can't crack this code. We cannot crack Gaming Gladiators
[07:35:04] And this is going to be
[07:35:06] an interesting matchup already. Weavers
[07:35:08] are a very strong hero right now. of the big uh position fours and carries
[07:35:11] that are strong in the lane but team liquid has shown this tiny it's been very impressive for them
[07:35:16] and it is very good versus weaver as well so so far still far, still good, fingers crossed.
[07:35:21] I will say that I like the follow-up
[07:35:23] bands from Gaming Gliders. I feel like Weaver is
[07:35:25] just an incredible support and they also
[07:35:27] like taking out the ones that I feel like they threaten
[07:35:29] you more. If I play Weaver into a Snapfire, which is what
[07:35:32] they left open, I don't really care. Like being
[07:35:34] caught by a cookie's really hard. Dying to
[07:35:36] Mortimer's Kisses as well so their ban
[07:35:38] kind of on point there but if I'm Team Liquid
[07:35:40] you still need to look for a similar combo. You
[07:35:42] need to have your Tiny being able with
[07:35:44] follow-up damage if they're going to look to have Nisha played
[07:35:47] which I feel like generally has
[07:35:49] been the case for them. You just have the Crash landing
[07:35:50] whatever, good mid lane, have some combos because
[07:35:53] they're going to need supports that can play with their
[07:35:55] bro Tiny. Yeah I mean the bad news
[07:35:57] is though is Weaver is one
[07:35:59] of Team Liquid's most banned heroes
[07:36:01] and they have not beat it yet. So that's
[07:36:04] obviously not great, but
[07:36:06] they do have the tiny this time. This is a first
[07:36:08] pick Weaver, and I don't think Tarachu
[07:36:10] has played this Weaver yet, which
[07:36:12] I think could be good news for him.
[07:36:16] It definitely fits
[07:36:17] into his arsenal of heroes but
[07:36:19] if there's other heroes open
[07:36:21] which obviously they are right? They're Alchemist
[07:36:23] even the CK.
[07:36:24] That's a hero that was banned out I believe in the last two games.
[07:36:27] This is the first time he IS going through.
[07:36:31] Almost certainly pick it up as against Beastmaster
[07:36:34] one of the best things to do is just be aggressive consistently close
[07:36:37] the gap on him pressure so he doesn't have the ability to send the board to stack the ancients
[07:36:41] and play for efficiency i can't fathom any other pick than ck coming out for gaming gladiators
[07:36:47] you know i remember in pure's interview and tundra is in the upper bracket if it ain't broke
[07:36:51] why would i bother fixing it now sure game of gladiators is thinking something similar
[07:36:55] as this is the first time that Team Liquid
[07:36:57] on second pick, because second pick gets four first round
[07:36:59] bans, that they've elected to just
[07:37:01] eliminate all the summons or his buyers
[07:37:03] that Gaiman has used as their
[07:37:05] staple to their strategy. so it is a completely different
[07:37:08] approach than we've seen in any
[07:37:10] of the four games from Team Liquid
[07:37:12] as they've been first picking three of those.
[07:37:14] There's the CK. What pairs with it
[07:37:16] to help punish this Beastmaster in lane?
[07:37:18] If we go back an hour ago to the pregame
[07:37:21] of this one, I talked about
[07:37:23] Darachio's two heroes
[07:37:25] I don't want to see him play. One was
[07:37:26] Brood, other one was CK. Try to make them in a position where they feel like Dorachou has to expand as something else that honestly he hasn't been very successful outside of three heroes right now but he's getting those three heroes on the fact his top two heroes every single time so team liquid
[07:37:41] are taking completely different routes i do like the fact that they're not giving chin away at
[07:37:45] least so that is one good thing but they'll grab another Aura Buyer here in the Enigma.
[07:37:50] Not entirely sure where this one's going to go.
[07:37:53] It can go into the offlane. Could also
[07:37:55] be a position 5 for them if
[07:37:56] they want to go that route. But yeah,
[07:37:58] I don't know if any of us could have called Enigma on this particular one.
[07:38:00] It doesn't stand out like a super good Enigma game by any means but...
[07:38:05] Why Zoras? I suppose.
[07:38:06] Yeah they haven't picked it yet.
[07:38:07] On either Celery or Ace so
[07:38:09] This is completely new hero for GG and that's kind of based on what Liquid's forced to be done by the Auras, like you said.
[07:38:16] I mean one of the nice things is they can mask it until later because your Weaver could be the 4 where the Enigma can go into the offlane or...
[07:38:24] Otherwise, if they feel like okay fine we'll just put the Enigma 5 pick in the offlane
[07:38:27] and they can do that after these next two picks.
[07:38:30] But for Liquid this support pool is kind of starved
[07:38:33] at least from the ones that you would want to take and want to play
[07:38:35] you need to help your beast in the lane against a ck enigma so what does my
[07:38:39] bro boxy want to cook here snapfire in the pool
[07:38:42] he is in the pool still yeah okay that's one of the ones he could go for if you want stuff
[07:38:46] Focus on trying to win laning stage here and that's gonna be a very early pick shadow thing here
[07:38:51] One good thing about this here though for liquid is we saw earlier they're
[07:38:55] willing to play it on multiple roles so they could play carry on the game i'm sure nisha
[07:39:00] would love to plate as well if he has a lane matchup.
[07:39:07] I guess it's still the question is like what support do you want to pick up? You said this snap
[07:39:09] which probably makes
[07:39:11] the most sense.
[07:39:13] Arcee maybe just enable the SF flex.
[07:39:16] Okay, Rubick for the black hole.
[07:39:18] Yeah I mean I think Shadow Fiend is kind of like a specialty counter
[07:39:23] to Enigma some people like to play it there
[07:39:25] just because you can double raise the idolons
[07:39:26] add a rubik blast on top of that we do know insania loves to play rubick position five so this
[07:39:31] lane should be good if it is an enigma offlane.
[07:39:40] Really good Rubick game though, you got Weaver and Enigmadunna still spells for me. Are we still going for any flex potential on the Tiny?
[07:39:43] Because I once again look at this and...
[07:39:45] Yes?
[07:39:46] ...I'm surprised that there might be position 5 coming out last
[07:39:49] on the side of Team Liquid.
[07:39:51] He can... Tiny could be a 4
[07:39:54] with their Beast but I feel like this lane is not necessarily great
[07:39:57] If I'm playing Beast,
[07:39:58] I just prefer ranged forwards that help me
[07:40:00] through the lane a little bit
[07:40:01] because laning against CK
[07:40:04] is not easy.
[07:40:06] Sure Rubick is fine there
[07:40:07] but Rubick also doesn't like to have heroes really run over him.
[07:40:09] So I'm a little worried for that lane
[07:40:11] But Gavin will be quite happy with this closing pick of a Dark Seer in this phase
[07:40:17] Builds your Auras
[07:40:18] He's good in lane.
[07:40:20] I can't really say anything bad about it.
[07:40:23] Hear me out for Shadow Demon
[07:40:24] for Boxy. Last
[07:40:26] overall pick, 5 position Rubick,
[07:40:28] carry SF mid Tiny. demon dispel uh against the dark seer iron shell surge
[07:40:34] to save against black hole create illusions of ck it's the dream the dream anything else or critiques well while you guys are thinking
[07:40:47] about that let's get some words out from the coach of entity it's a steamy with purge yes see what do you
[07:40:55] think about the draft so far I say GG they have position five that can build our us as
[07:41:00] an enigma they have opposition three that can be with ours they have a position three that can do the rs they have a really strong
[07:41:04] laner on ck on carry and weaver also really strong liner so they have what they had game
[07:41:09] one game two we've seen what happened in game one and game two.
[07:41:13] So really good draft from GG but it's time I see
[07:41:16] Team Liquid maybe they can set a tempo of the game
[07:41:19] because with Beastmaster they can do early roach
[07:41:21] They can take objectives with these SFs. So if
[07:41:24] they somehow get an early
[07:41:26] lead, they can actually capitalize in this early
[07:41:28] lead. I like this red from Liquid
[07:41:30] better than the ones I've seen on the previous
[07:41:32] games. What about the Tiny?
[07:41:35] They had a lot of success with that in group stage,
[07:41:37] just getting kills across the map consistently.
[07:41:40] I don't know what position it's going to be at this point.
[07:41:43] It's still flexible, but surely the toss facet,
[07:41:45] the most OP facet in the game can do something right? It's definitely broken and good thing about Tiny as you said
[07:41:49] You don't know their role because also GG cannot know their role cause he is a flex hero
[07:41:53] So you can always choose to go position four on
[07:41:56] the hero and you're gonna be a position for that cut waves
[07:41:59] so if have a midi 4, you don't need to full commit
[07:42:02] on playing the lane and you can cut waves against a team that always wants
[07:42:05] to play
[07:42:06] a very strong lane, as this CK Enigma.
[07:42:09] Alright well thanks for joining me!
[07:42:11] Thank you!
[07:42:12] Thank you Astini and Purge!
[07:42:14] It feels like Team League has got a better draft than the previous two games, but still very
[07:42:17] much liking what Gaming Gladiators is cooking up as well.
[07:42:21] It just kind of seems hard to get gaming out of their comfort zone I will say that it is
[07:42:25] an absolute good point that they have the, they have the beast. They can look to get
[07:42:28] the first ages with like the axe timing and then
[07:42:30] play through their SF.
[07:42:32] Also before this game I was thinking maybe they want to play some SF
[07:42:34] Marcy, just some liquid strife. You know, set
[07:42:36] the tempo yourself and try.
[07:42:39] So I do like that they have their going for them but I will say Gaben have a very nasty draft
[07:42:42] at least for now to deal with that.
[07:42:45] They end up banning Windranger
[07:42:47] at the very last second they had available and they pick up that sand king yeah
[07:42:51] i mean they don't really play that a lot most likely gonna be when playing that one i'd like to
[07:42:56] see the sf go mid sure bot lane might be a little hard and you're just like
[07:43:00] last pick of Gyrocopter or something that can
[07:43:02] lane against this Dark
[07:43:04] Seer or Faceless Floyd would be okay with me.
[07:43:06] I'd like to see them get a new carry because I really
[07:43:08] think that Shadow Fiend with Aghs
[07:43:10] really hard counters the CK.
[07:43:12] And from the carry position, not so good.
[07:43:15] So that could be really good for them but it looks like
[07:43:17] they're just going to go for Clockwork instead
[07:43:19] throwing most likely Tiny Mid and Carry SF.
[07:43:22] This one not as big of a fan of
[07:43:24] obviously Sand King can get out of that pretty easily
[07:43:27] but it is a Black Hole cancel if you have the right angle
[07:43:29] which is nice, you also have Roar for that and
[07:43:32] the laning stage. I think
[07:43:34] their plan is to potentially shut down Celery there.
[07:43:37] Okay, I'm
[07:43:38] also a bit confused. I would've liked
[07:43:39] the pivot that Fiora was talking about with their type
[07:43:42] of core heroes, put the S at mid.
[07:43:44] So they're going with the clock. I wonder if there's also anything
[07:43:47] I'm not seeing that they want to rotate
[07:43:49] early on or do something funky with their lanes
[07:43:50] because at least for now, I think Gaiman again have stronger lanes the only thing i can see for liquid is
[07:43:55] that with the beast acts they help him a lot
[07:43:58] early that they get this timing to get the ages
[07:44:00] but if peace doesn't have a good lane and they stack for him, And then Gaiman brings the Sand King over there.
[07:44:05] I feel like that could be really, really bad for Team Liquid.
[07:44:10] I'm just nervous about CK Lane.
[07:44:13] You said they're going to try
[07:44:14] to pressure Seller with the clockwork,
[07:44:15] but he's got Eidolons
[07:44:16] to protect himself
[07:44:17] against the battery assaults.
[07:44:18] Looking forward a little bit
[07:44:19] of pinball action
[07:44:20] with the new cog facet.
[07:44:21] But at the end of the day,
[07:44:23] as we heard from the coach in the interview I think it's
[07:44:26] the same story being told here. We're already about two-thirds of
[07:44:29] the way through the chapters and uh i think we all know the conclusion.
[07:44:35] For your final words? well it's not going to be
[07:44:37] the easiest game for them but they do have potential with shadow fiend and the
[07:44:40] beastmaster just a snowball up hopefully boxy hit some great holes if they can
[07:44:44] start the fights on enigma and the shadow fiend king
[07:44:46] win his lane i think that's our best chance seems like uh team liquid has got quite
[07:44:53] the job to do here in this third game of this best five grand finals gaming gladiators can they win this take the
[07:45:01] title here of champions at riyadh masters this is the sixth grand Finals they play against Team Liquid,
[07:45:09] and at the moment it might just look like
[07:45:12] it's the same result as the previous five times.
[07:45:16] This one maybe even feeling a little bit more
[07:45:18] dominant than the rest. Let's
[07:45:20] find out what's going to happen in this third game
[07:45:23] of this best-of-five together with Cap and SVG.
[07:45:27] That's right, it may be the worst position that Liquid has ever been in their history.
[07:45:32] Their long history against Game of Gladiators but Avery...
[07:45:37] The night is darkest what's just around the corner?
[07:45:42] Uhhh...
[07:45:44] More cursedness?
[07:45:48] Heh! The dawn, the light the dog,
[07:45:50] but like surely
[07:45:51] the light is just
[07:45:52] around the corner.
[07:45:53] You know,
[07:45:54] maybe this is
[07:45:56] this is the start
[07:45:57] of something beautiful.
[07:45:58] I mean it would be
[07:45:59] a beautiful story if they managed
[07:46:01] reverse sweeps. Reverse sweeps come to you
[07:46:03] and far between them, don't they?
[07:46:04] When you go to me
[07:46:07] the panel had
[07:46:09] their discussions.
[07:46:10] We saw which you know, the panel had their discussions. We heard the words of the panelists.
[07:46:12] We saw which way they were leaning.
[07:46:14] We saw how they felt about the situation.
[07:46:16] I heard what you had to say about it.
[07:46:18] When you look into me
[07:46:19] to bring the hope in this situation?
[07:46:24] I feel
[07:46:25] like we've gone off the rails somewhere.
[07:46:28] I don't know if that's what
[07:46:29] my brand is known for,
[07:46:30] but I assume it's not.
[07:46:33] But is there hope here? Is there a way back
[07:46:35] from the bottom of this pit
[07:46:37] of despair that Liquid find themselves
[07:46:39] in? Let me tell you something. Let me
[07:46:41] tell you a little story that i think a lot of
[07:46:43] people can relate to
[07:46:45] austin mm-hmm i think every dota player
[07:46:48] has been
[07:46:49] in that pit of darkness oh yeah everyone
[07:46:52] they have been at the bottom
[07:46:53] many of these players have gone through the ups and downs and they have been at the bottom. Many of these players have gone through
[07:46:55] the ups and downs,
[07:46:56] they've been at the down
[07:46:57] and know how bad that feeling is
[07:47:00] And they all have gotten through it
[07:47:02] to get back to this moment
[07:47:03] That's proof if you're a Liquid right now to get back to this moment. And that is proof
[07:47:04] if you're a Liquid
[07:47:05] right now
[07:47:06] that you can
[07:47:07] reverse sweep
[07:47:08] the series
[07:47:09] because there
[07:47:11] is always
[07:47:11] a way back
[07:47:12] and there's
[07:47:12] always a way
[07:47:13] back to the top
[07:47:13] and nobody
[07:47:14] is ever out until you retire.
[07:47:17] And even then,
[07:47:17] you can come back and do it eight more times like Seb.
[07:47:21] It's true.
[07:47:22] Dota can always pull you back in.
[07:47:24] It's just a question of whether you're able to push back,
[07:47:27] and I want to see the pushback right now
[07:47:29] from Liquid because I think
[07:47:31] I and everybody else watching this series who has watched
[07:47:33] all the other series between these two teams combined
[07:47:35] over the last two years,
[07:47:39] well, it would make things a bit more interesting. It would make it a bit more spicy and
[07:47:41] it would surely be a twist
[07:47:43] on a tale that has become as old as this one.
[07:47:46] Yeah, it certainly has. It doesn't seem to matter what the patch is,
[07:47:49] what the draft is something about gaming gladiators has just been a stonewall to Team Liquid.
[07:47:59] But different draft in this game three,
[07:48:03] they get some very important heroes for them right?
[07:48:05] They get the Tiny which has done really good work
[07:48:08] for them throughout this tournament.
[07:48:10] This matchup in particular, the Tiny versus Sand King was something that got them into
[07:48:15] this upper bracket position in the upper bracket finals against Game of Gladiators, a pre-season.
[07:48:20] They played that tiny game against Sand King couple times around and got them some good
[07:48:23] wins.
[07:48:24] They've got their Beastmaster for 33.
[07:48:28] Always seem to rely on that one.
[07:48:30] And then some twists.
[07:48:32] We got Rubik Clockwork, wasn't expecting
[07:48:34] to be seeing the clockwork. Where did he come from?
[07:48:36] I feel like it's just Boxy
[07:48:38] trying to find something that he can build
[07:48:40] some morale for on the team via initiator,
[07:48:43] via playmaker. This is a hero that he's won many matches
[07:48:47] on before and it could be a nice interruption tool here.
[07:48:52] A nice, easy source of initiation
[07:48:54] that they've lacked in some
[07:48:54] of the previous team fights.
[07:48:55] They were having trouble finding it.
[07:48:57] Yeah, and it's difficult
[07:48:58] when you're kind of like,
[07:48:59] okay, Nisha,
[07:48:59] you got to start every fight
[07:49:00] and go in
[07:49:01] and then he's just
[07:49:02] immediately in the middle of all this garbage and can't get back out i don't think they want
[07:49:06] that type of situation for the tiny so they get another very consistent initiator on
[07:49:10] the support role particularly if he's going to be losing
[07:49:13] another lane against Quinn, who
[07:49:15] seems to just have Nisha's number in this
[07:49:17] matchup.
[07:49:19] Quinn has gotten the better of him, but to be fair I think
[07:49:21] Quinn has also gotten a number of cheese picks against nisha
[07:49:25] yeah that was not fun was certainly not a fun matchup i think this mid lane should go a lot more
[07:49:29] even and i do like tiny versus sand king think it is, you're on the better
[07:49:35] end of this exchange if you have
[07:49:37] the Tiny. At least by personal
[07:49:39] preference. I mean, this is a very close matchup
[07:49:41] and they do different things. So it's not
[07:49:43] an end-all be-all but in theory Tiny does a lot of burst
[07:49:45] damage can build a lot of hybrid damage
[07:49:47] and can cut through Sanking on that front line
[07:49:49] Can also displace him out of some of the
[07:49:51] sandstorms like that so
[07:49:52] I think Liquid, I mean if you can't win with you know the shadow fiend tiny beast
[07:49:57] that i feel like have been three of your best cores the entire event you're just getting outplayed
[07:50:02] yep and that has been part of the matchup
[07:50:06] Of Game of Gladiators versus Liquid
[07:50:07] Nisha
[07:50:08] Oh, is he going to die in this matchup?
[07:50:10] Not quite
[07:50:11] The bottle will help keep him alive
[07:50:12] But Quinn is destroying him in CS now
[07:50:15] And he gets the range tonight yeah i mean
[07:50:17] 15-8 compared to five and three he's tripling up on it
[07:50:22] a very rough start for the tiny action that was
[07:50:26] yeah yeah nisha destroyed this matchup
[07:50:28] against other mid laners
[07:50:29] but win is something different
[07:50:31] when it comes to mid lane.
[07:50:33] At least they get first blood eventually
[07:50:35] on that Weaver top
[07:50:36] and took a couple tries.
[07:50:38] I feel like the sideelines for liquid have been going better in this game two
[07:50:41] and three they've definitely stepped it up this is
[07:50:43] also gonna be a support swap something worth mentioning here does
[07:50:47] usually make your landing a little weaker but it makes the
[07:50:50] player stronger on the heroes quinn gets caught on a barrel strike yeah nice he's tossed back there
[07:50:56] and the tree is not going to be enough damage, but puts him super
[07:51:00] low. He's going to be there for the Water Rune
[07:51:02] for a bit of recovery.
[07:51:04] Tofu going to make a rotation through the gate
[07:51:06] very early.
[07:51:08] Looking to punish 33 up far in the lane.
[07:51:11] Pulling back into the Shiguchi, get
[07:51:13] the Bucks on him and they have so much physical
[07:51:15] damage between this trio.
[07:51:17] Even got the four.
[07:51:19] Plus 28 here. Big swing for Dorachio
[07:51:21] puts his CK in a much better position
[07:51:24] Still Mikkei leading the pack
[07:51:27] which is exactly what you want for this safe lane
[07:51:29] Shadowfiend we saw Liquid do a lot of work with this year earlier
[07:51:32] cannot nurse me how strong it is he has some buffs to play behind him not as much as he had in that
[07:51:37] game but still beastmaster mountain mount and're going to get another one on Ace.
[07:51:43] So extra build up for the S-Up here.
[07:51:46] Take advantage of the Weaver being bottom.
[07:51:49] Telekinesis throw back into the Eidolons trying to stall out some of
[07:51:53] the damage garaggio a bit low on mana so may not be able
[07:51:57] to have another kill attempt for him for a little while
[07:52:01] meanwhile nisha low health quinn
[07:52:05] man look at that that stinger just does so much damage to a no armor tiny i think if quinn had
[07:52:11] lost all that hp on the tower this lane might have been completely one-sided.
[07:52:16] At least Nisha's getting something here but it is still...
[07:52:18] It still IS one sided! He's still doubling them up in CS.
[07:52:21] This is not how Liquid wanted this lane to go and it's gonna have to be made up for here in the two side lanes now
[07:52:27] this sf is pulling ahead by a decent amount refarming the lane there's not a lot you can do
[07:52:32] to go on mickay here as long as Boxley's protecting him. You can maybe try
[07:52:35] and all-in him with a swarm
[07:52:36] and a support rotation,
[07:52:37] and we are seeing the Enigma
[07:52:38] go through the gate.
[07:52:40] So Gaiman are going to try
[07:52:41] and push in with this catapult
[07:52:41] get the big SF kill
[07:52:43] or at least threaten it.
[07:52:45] We can shell the Weaver and push him in here.
[07:52:48] It's going to be up to Boxy
[07:52:49] to keep these two, Ace
[07:52:52] and Tofu from overwhelming
[07:52:54] Mikke when the play comes.
[07:52:55] The Cox goes out. Batter is all pushed back in.
[07:52:57] Not too bad they get a kill before
[07:52:59] the Enigma even shows up still though
[07:53:01] the Enigma is here with the Eidolons and Duraccio
[07:53:03] Now the TP's coming in for the Rubick
[07:53:05] Can he stop this? Tellkenisa throw back, good stun!
[07:53:08] One Raze goes off a second brings a Hero low
[07:53:10] that's gonna be Celery going down
[07:53:12] and DeraaGio limping across the jungle
[07:53:15] almost nine to the tower there
[07:53:16] Cogs actually managed to nab Ace with a battery assault out.
[07:53:20] Darachy's trying to help but he cannot do anything to get Ace out of that sticky situation.
[07:53:25] Liquid manages to stop the aggression of Game and Gliators and turn it back on.
[07:53:30] Big swing in this early game, a lot of experience for the supports
[07:53:33] The Beastmaster gets the free farm bottom uncontested
[07:53:36] And you shut down some of that Weaver who
[07:53:38] Toflus just found nothing on this lane really it takes
[07:53:40] four heroes to bring down that sf cost to watch you a lot of time he thought about it
[07:53:51] so this s Oh, he thought about it. He's not. He baited him a little bit.
[07:53:55] So this ASTF is going to be the wisdom rune on Boxy.
[07:53:57] And he's not gonna make it in time so far away. Already level five on his clock.
[07:54:00] Yeah, if you got wisdom runesed man they went liquid to be actually so far up in the experience of uh
[07:54:05] their support please run up the ramp and he still tries for it.
[07:54:12] Cogs doesn't pull him in.
[07:54:14] That's a level three battery,
[07:54:16] but it just been instant death race.
[07:54:16] Yeah.
[07:54:19] So Boxy making his clockwork work.
[07:54:21] Looking pretty good so far.
[07:54:23] So that's a lot of regen to play with on the map here with full stick Lotus.
[07:54:25] Yeah, and with boots coming in
[07:54:26] he is going to be a menace
[07:54:27] and they need a menace right now
[07:54:29] not just because of the fact
[07:54:31] they're down 0-2,
[07:54:32] but also because this mid lane...
[07:54:35] There's going to be a Sand King that is extremely farmed.
[07:54:39] It's not quite as farmed as the SF,
[07:54:41] but Quinn did his job.
[07:54:44] Certainly did.
[07:54:47] I feel like
[07:54:48] there's not really a time you say
[07:54:50] Quinn didn't do his job
[07:54:51] when it comes to the first 10 minutes of the game against kind
[07:54:54] of no matter who he's landing
[07:54:58] yeah it is nice when your mid laner wins me every time not that much
[07:55:03] eight minute room was bottom it's illusion not the biggest deal
[07:55:09] i mean three sources right now
[07:55:12] that's what's winning this mid lane this tiny is gonna have to go to base again here, second time before 10 minute mark
[07:55:19] Just costing Nisha a lot of time and they're going to scout this huge set of stacks
[07:55:24] Oh! Barrel strike!, barely off the mark there.
[07:55:28] This is not a stack you can afford to give up on this game for Liquid.
[07:55:30] I don't think gaming has the best means of taking it.
[07:55:33] Yeah, Beastmaster's going to cut over.
[07:55:35] CB, if he can get any of these last hits nisha
[07:55:38] he's gonna run at him throws a nice toss avalanche with the
[07:55:41] axes to be able to cut down b and igma and dorachu was already at half
[07:55:45] i just caught him in that river boxey hit it with the cogs, knocks
[07:55:48] up off the clip and now the battery assault is on top
[07:55:50] of them. Toss to finish him off and get the kill
[07:55:52] on Quinn. Liquid put the numbers together
[07:55:54] in the river and
[07:55:55] Gaming Gladiators underestimating the power
[07:55:59] of this tiny.
[07:56:02] Things starting to come together
[07:56:03] here, and it feels very solid.
[07:56:05] These heroes are going to scale well for Liquid
[07:56:07] and play well together with the beess buffing them all up.
[07:56:10] Nisha, he just got
[07:56:11] exactly what he needed in
[07:56:13] this game. An injection of gold,
[07:56:15] some big 4 kills
[07:56:16] and man, when that toss starts to add up
[07:56:20] it feels good here. Liquid can continue to play around it
[07:56:24] Almost got him with the Blood Grenade but not quite. Boxy almost bursted by the Seer
[07:56:28] Stolen Burrow Strike though will halt Quinn. He's running after him with the Bugs on him
[07:56:31] but a hook shot, a toss!
[07:56:32] Oh look, got some of that damage.
[07:56:34] Meanwhile Misha he still got the Bug on him as well
[07:56:37] and the Burrow Strike gonna punch to the backside.
[07:56:38] Ace is able to finish him off
[07:56:39] but Quinn is in deep
[07:56:40] He managed to hit
[07:56:41] The stinger
[07:56:41] Got another kill
[07:56:42] Now on the run
[07:56:43] Celery trying
[07:56:44] To cover him
[07:56:45] Mickey
[07:56:45] Black hole
[07:56:46] On two
[07:56:47] 33
[07:56:47] Misses
[07:56:48] The axis
[07:56:48] Quinn comes back
[07:56:49] In with the stinger
[07:56:50] And kills them both, and stays
[07:56:52] alive. Beautiful stuff from
[07:56:54] the Sand King M33 caught
[07:56:56] from behind by Duraccio
[07:56:58] Quinn lives through it all
[07:57:00] breaking the ankles of Liquid.
[07:57:02] I mean, CC and see you later here.
[07:57:05] Quinn just dancing over Liquid.
[07:57:10] This man is absolutely
[07:57:11] putting on an early game clinic dragging Damon Damon through a landing phase that looked like it was going to go liquid's way.
[07:57:17] Just every single move in this fight is on point. Sometimes those illusion run illusions make a difference
[07:57:24] just got off so many stingers here the power phase boots on this hero from mid
[07:57:30] just as he was going well for liquid quinn breaks that lead in half
[07:57:37] and you have to worry about how strong the sand can get because he's backed up by a lot of team
[07:57:41] fight this dark seer is gonna turn him into a a beast he gets the front line items on top of
[07:57:47] the blink dagger here you know every one of these barrel strike stingers can be
[07:57:50] on multiple heroes if you plump up and get back
[07:57:54] that could have been such a nice end to the laning phase
[07:57:56] for Liquid if they collected Quinn there
[07:57:58] instead it's just a disaster
[07:57:59] pushes all of them back down the board
[07:58:01] and pushes all of the game
[07:58:04] Gladiator cores up catching them to Nikkei
[07:58:06] who has had a free game for himself
[07:58:09] for the most part after that
[07:58:10] first move from gaming gladiators
[07:58:13] failed.
[07:58:14] Try again but Foxy there for the interception.
[07:58:17] Will this be enough though? Trying to get out the Requiem vacuum goes off
[07:58:20] he just cannot seem to get it up and Celery won't die either!
[07:58:23] Outnumbered an outgunned again Liquid
[07:58:26] just finding themselves in the back with
[07:58:28] all these little skirmishes as Gaiman bring
[07:58:30] numbers, and Ace I mean he's just smiling
[07:58:32] all the way to the bank cause Mek bailed out his
[07:58:34] five got him a double kill uses
[07:58:36] cogs against them straight into a tower last hit all of a sudden you blink
[07:58:41] and you miss it this dark seer is the most farm hero in the game after getting killed
[07:58:45] by that shadow fiend during the laning phase.
[07:58:49] 33 doesn't get there in time.
[07:58:51] This is the type of game setup
[07:58:53] where you can look at the draft all you want,
[07:58:55] you can talk about how the laning phase was going okay
[07:58:57] but these little gameplay maneuvers are what
[07:58:59] is winning this series right now. Yes.
[07:59:02] It's simply
[07:59:04] put Game of Gladiators
[07:59:05] they kind of do what Liquid does
[07:59:08] just better. Yeah, they're just faster.
[07:59:10] Give them a different draft, it doesn't change the things
[07:59:13] that Game of Gladiators...
[07:59:14] Inside the game, they're just faster than Liquid
[07:59:17] and it seems to catch Liquid
[07:59:19] off guard too many times. But they have slow elements in the lineup middle
[07:59:23] five can be slow we can have a rough lane phase this weaver had a really slow start and topu was
[07:59:28] behind but they make them necessary moves they find the opening
[07:59:31] they bring the numbers and they make sure they help each other
[07:59:34] find games here and once more liquid on a significant
[07:59:37] back foot suddenly down 5k network it happens so fast two two and a half minutes
[07:59:46] sania moving around with uh the shikuchi
[07:59:52] all right you're're going to have
[07:59:53] some good Rubick plays this game. There are a lot of
[07:59:55] good spells to steal. Darkslayer spells are great.
[07:59:57] Shikuchi can set all that up.
[07:59:59] Sansel swells are magnificent
[08:00:01] and of course the black hole would be
[08:00:04] the ultimate steal here
[08:00:07] a smoke up from gaming gladiators
[08:00:10] and they have a blink dagger on Quinn so
[08:00:13] looking to connect these pieces
[08:00:15] somewhere on the map.
[08:00:18] They have a lot of firepower right now.
[08:00:20] Armlet Chaos Knight easily joins a fight.
[08:00:22] Drum Enigma, pretty pretty strong always the threat with
[08:00:25] the black hole you have the mech darks here can back all of it together
[08:00:28] and of course the blink sanking can bring that fight to you with strong
[08:00:31] initiation power gaming are not lacking anything just a matter of where they want to strike going for the epicenter
[08:00:37] kill perhaps waiting for tofu to set it up with just a little bit of slow would have gone a long
[08:00:43] ways and sania sees a push coming his way.
[08:00:48] What does Liquid do with this bit of information
[08:00:49] knowing all these heroes
[08:00:50] are going to come in
[08:00:51] and they just give up
[08:00:52] the tower?
[08:00:53] Looks like that's the case.
[08:00:55] Tough tower
[08:00:56] to give up, man.
[08:00:58] But do they really have a choice
[08:00:59] in the matter? It's going to be a lot
[08:01:01] of space to operate around.
[08:01:04] 9-9, 5,000
[08:01:05] net worth lead and it's 14 minute wisdom rune time 14 minutes.
[08:01:25] And there we go. We're back into it. 9-9
[08:01:31] 14 minutes with some room picked up
[08:01:33] So Liquid
[08:01:35] do not give up that big game
[08:01:37] Gladiators were trying to get a little aggressive
[08:01:39] then they thought better of it backed up farms five different parts of the map you
[08:01:42] can see them all spread over the map trying to just efficiently get to their next round of items
[08:01:48] quick we're gonna group bottom off the smoke,
[08:01:51] try and use this Akuchi to start a good team fight.
[08:01:53] Got the roar on him,
[08:01:55] so they'll get the pickoff
[08:01:56] and 33 has his
[08:01:58] Aghanim Scepter. It's still Radiant-side Roshan.
[08:02:03] Are they...
[08:02:04] I don't think they can do Roshan right now,
[08:02:06] which then puts it onto the Dire side,
[08:02:08] which may make things awkward for Liquid.
[08:02:11] Part of this Beastmaster, right?
[08:02:12] He's securing that early Roshan in the first place
[08:02:14] because Liquid really needs this.
[08:02:16] You can gate here though after this tier one.
[08:02:19] I'm curious if Gaming are going
[08:02:20] to try and read this And just set up
[08:02:22] Yeah, I was about to say
[08:02:22] Game of Gladiators is already set up on that side of the map
[08:02:25] So you are
[08:02:26] Stumbling into something bad here
[08:02:28] Good rocket from Boxy
[08:02:29] You do want to do this Roach though don't want to just sit on your side of the map with
[08:02:35] these beastmaster eggs and let game inform up here especially with the lead they have
[08:02:39] on these supports still the point in
[08:02:44] the game where
[08:02:45] the Sakuchi Rubik's
[08:02:45] very strong as well
[08:02:47] got him on the
[08:02:48] barrel strike
[08:02:48] still has Sakuchi
[08:02:49] trying to get away
[08:02:50] outside of the
[08:02:51] vision and
[08:02:52] will be able
[08:02:52] to nab him
[08:02:53] and the Rubik goes down,
[08:02:55] now they put damage onto the Tier 2.
[08:02:57] Meanwhile, Nisha's trying to push in mid.
[08:03:01] Game of Gladiators sticking around, yeah
[08:03:04] They're just gonna commit to taking this tier two.
[08:03:06] That's going to make things even harder for Liquid when it comes to taking a Dire Sign Roshan!
[08:03:10] They're gonna have no objectives on this side of the map outside of the outposts.
[08:03:13] Their moves have been really good in this game. All to the right areas of the outpost their moves have been really good this game all to the right areas of
[08:03:16] the map that moved the gate moose top got that tier one the move mid backstabbed that tower ended
[08:03:21] up securing it now just move to talk get a little rubik kill take this tier two and deny the Roshan
[08:03:28] during this Beastmaster Aghs period.
[08:03:30] DodgerTheCog covering the power room!
[08:03:33] Two minutes to get that haste through but it'll cost Poxy his life
[08:03:36] It looks like he's underneath the Sandstorm with Tofu on the other side
[08:03:38] and get the kill. Now the chase.
[08:03:40] Dorachio closing in has to blink away
[08:03:43] on Misha he does manage to get out
[08:03:45] Flick dagger is done for the Beastmaster as well
[08:03:48] so double initiation tools for Liquid,
[08:03:49] but is that going
[08:03:50] to be able
[08:03:50] to surmount
[08:03:51] the 5,000 network lead
[08:03:52] the gaming gladiators
[08:03:53] have built up
[08:03:54] with the aural items
[08:03:55] being achieved?
[08:03:56] Got the pipe mech
[08:03:57] done for Ace.
[08:03:59] The team is still very even here.
[08:04:01] There's still some strong teamfight on
[08:04:03] the side of Liquid if you can put it together.
[08:04:05] Your Tiny, his recovery has been slow
[08:04:07] and he's behind but this crash landing can still do some massive work
[08:04:12] even if you're missing one or two k especially you can find a support at the start just get that free
[08:04:17] pick off make it into a five on four particularly before the sand king
[08:04:20] starts to tank up he's also susceptible and haste run on nisha should open up some moves they're
[08:04:27] stealing him he's the aura guy he's going gonna be able to get off the pipe mech.
[08:04:32] Not the fastest kill, might still be able to run him down the tree...
[08:04:35] It is enough, ever so barely they do manage to get it.
[08:04:38] Hookshot back in, D'Arcio was trying to still force this one!
[08:04:41] Requiem goes out, that'll put him under fear.
[08:04:43] Unable to put some damage on a box he tries
[08:04:45] to slip away through the cogs.
[08:04:46] Tofu's able to finish him off while
[08:04:47] D'Arachio gets the armor toggle to stay alive.
[08:04:50] They don't want to walk into a black hole epicenter so liquid
[08:04:54] are forced to give up on the chase at least initially four canceled after center blink
[08:04:59] there from quinn super heads-up play by 33.
[08:05:02] Or Gaiman would have committed to that fight with the Sand King
[08:05:05] strength.
[08:05:07] Then we'll have to settle for losing their
[08:05:08] offlaner here, narrowly escaping
[08:05:11] with the Chaos Knight.
[08:05:13] I felt like Liquid would have wanted
[08:05:13] a little more out of that, considering how good
[08:05:15] the start was at a hasted Tiny.
[08:05:19] But they'll take it.
[08:05:22] Their Boars are still farming
[08:05:23] very well
[08:05:23] they now
[08:05:24] you know
[08:05:25] Blink Aghs Beastmaster
[08:05:26] to start fights
[08:05:26] Blink Tiny
[08:05:27] to start fights
[08:05:28] Clockwork
[08:05:28] to start fights
[08:05:29] Koochie Rubick
[08:05:30] who can start fights
[08:05:30] everybody on this lineup
[08:05:31] can pick a target
[08:05:33] and make it easy for the rest of the team.
[08:05:36] It's a very nice element to have here, but you have to pick that target well.
[08:05:39] Ideally you burst that Dark Seer, take the ores out, you're super happy.
[08:05:43] You find Enigma...
[08:05:46] Might make it easier for Shadow Fiend to commit in.
[08:05:52] Gaming are continuing to defend this upper part of the map.
[08:05:56] He doesn't know and he throws out the Axes, they ping where he's at. Topu spawns up- nope!
[08:06:00] That blink was crucial. Otherwise
[08:06:02] Dorachio might have been able to catch up to him.
[08:06:06] And now Duraccio
[08:06:07] gets him in his clutches
[08:06:09] with the Arcade
[08:06:10] to pick off there
[08:06:10] and now Foxy...
[08:06:12] Yeah,
[08:06:12] he's going to be pulled in
[08:06:13] by another Reality Rift
[08:06:14] Telekinesis
[08:06:15] tries to save him
[08:06:16] The Vessel's taken him,
[08:06:17] Duraccio diving into tier threes
[08:06:18] as Shukuchi is along the way.
[08:06:20] Duraccio is crazy for this one.
[08:06:21] He's already half HP underneath tier three
[08:06:24] but Liquid are nowhere to be found right now and Sania gets a good steal on the Burrow Strike.
[08:06:30] Lost after Tier 3 at 19 minutes again!
[08:06:34] Vicious refusing to come back!
[08:06:37] These are the little mistakes that cost you so much against this team, they play for
[08:06:41] the win, they play for blood.
[08:06:43] You cannot show signs of weakness here giving up these little kills in odd areas
[08:06:47] on the map and they're going to go back liquid a lot
[08:06:49] they're gonna take rose you can't lose roche's game if your liquid well that's what's about
[08:06:55] to feel like a 14-minute beast tags when you couldn't even contest this?
[08:06:59] Nope.
[08:07:01] That is brutal.
[08:07:02] A lot of different physical damage minus armor to make
[08:07:04] this pretty easy for them.
[08:07:06] At least your cores are still on even footing, it's better
[08:07:08] than the previous games but this is an objective that it should have gone your way
[08:07:13] or at least you would've wanted to do.
[08:07:15] It was part of the game plan
[08:07:16] but seems like the game plan has changed
[08:07:18] with Liquid not TPing back to to that Tier 3. It really
[08:07:21] looked to me like they just made the call that they're
[08:07:23] staying out of the map and farming no matter
[08:07:25] what.
[08:07:27] And maybe that's because the next round
[08:07:29] up items are particularly crucial?
[08:07:33] They want the BKBs.
[08:07:34] Trying to get the BKBs, but those were still a ways away!
[08:07:38] You got the Manta done for Micke and the Echo Saber complete for Nisha. He'll break that apart at some point
[08:07:43] for DKB, of course, but
[08:07:44] it's going to be a bit.
[08:07:47] In Game of Gladiators
[08:07:48] they have four minutes
[08:07:49] in some change with an Aegis and a Blink Dagger on Dorachio
[08:07:53] for full aggression.
[08:07:55] If you can get the BKBs up on your cores
[08:07:57] and just end up in a fight where you stand your ground,
[08:07:59] that's when this lineup comes together the most.
[08:08:02] You have some decent chain-studding potential
[08:08:04] if you have the Inner Beast aura
[08:08:06] for these right clickers
[08:08:08] If you get multiple tosses off,
[08:08:10] you can keep the Tiny alive that
[08:08:12] So Liquid are going to look for it here, but you're probably going to have to wear out this Aegis
[08:08:15] duration and just look
[08:08:17] for a much later timing now.
[08:08:19] It sounds like you're saying to me
[08:08:20] your Liquid don't lose the game in the next five minutes?
[08:08:24] Yeah, or don't lose a fight or get huge
[08:08:26] pickoffs right which has been a struggle and it's another cross map smoke gaming are showing heroes
[08:08:31] bottom and looking for somebody in the triangle has decent chance of working here 33 yeah flick burrow nisha can try and cover
[08:08:39] him with an avalanche but 33 stock he knows it too almost caught the tiny on the tail end
[08:08:46] early vessel for
[08:08:47] the Weaver, dealing with this Beastmaster heal.
[08:08:50] Heal's already up for
[08:08:50] Tofu as well. He's completely recovered in his game.
[08:08:54] Very tanky, very
[08:08:55] annoying on this front line.
[08:09:00] Gotta keep split pushing.
[08:09:02] And it's another big core pickoff that...
[08:09:05] Again you're just bleeding heroes on the map from the story all series and every time
[08:09:10] you give up one of these kills game and turn it into objectives turn it into a bigger lead
[08:09:16] it would have been fine if there was some support, but it's the core BKBs that Liquid are trying to build too.
[08:09:21] So any core death a game of Gladiators gets out of this is worth its weight in gold.
[08:09:26] Insania sees the movement coming
[08:09:28] They're just trying to catch everything
[08:09:31] Once more Liquid corraled
[08:09:33] to one part of the map
[08:09:35] It's not where their vision is
[08:09:37] I feel like they have to smoke
[08:09:39] to get something else out.
[08:09:40] They have one observer
[08:09:40] on the clock.
[08:09:41] Yeah,
[08:09:42] they showed some heroes
[08:09:42] up at top
[08:09:43] so they think
[08:09:44] that they could do
[08:09:45] something in this
[08:09:46] mid area.
[08:09:47] I mean,
[08:09:47] they're correct.
[08:09:47] This Sand King Weaver
[08:09:48] cannot get to this fight.
[08:09:49] They are going to be fighting into an Aegis,
[08:09:51] but if they clump like this when they get the hook shot onto the Dark Seer,
[08:09:54] first target Orkin already going off Primal War,
[08:09:56] trying to follow it up in this aura damage dealer.
[08:09:58] Misha goes for the toss together.
[08:10:00] App lands, but they don't have
[08:10:01] the follow-up damage to kill these guys and now Mikke gets grabbed by the Realidria Phantasm
[08:10:05] Chaos Knife trying to get him away trying to get up a Requiem vacuum interrupts that one
[08:10:09] A second glimmer disappearing into the night,
[08:10:11] but now he's been revealed!
[08:10:12] Now he's caught by the Burrow Strike!
[08:10:13] Nietzsche couldn't get him out,
[08:10:15] tried to go for the toss...
[08:10:16] Now he's dead as well!
[08:10:17] Boxy is caught in it!
[08:10:18] Duraccio blinks forward looking
[08:10:19] for more good steal from Insignia
[08:10:21] with a Burrow Strike selling stalling off Duraccio.
[08:10:23] Otherwise 33 might have been the third core killed in this
[08:10:26] and Game of Gladiators are hitting high ground once again
[08:10:29] though they are chasing after 33 who had the bug on his hawks and they know where he's at relentless boxy
[08:10:36] had a choice there i don't know if you saw the enigma of the last second but your hook shot
[08:10:40] in enigma or darks here and he took the darks here instant orchid from dorachio completely
[08:10:45] bails out that initiation and then glimmer cape on the enigma there's just no way to take
[08:10:50] that darkster down at the start of a fight like that. Liquid did not have their BKBs
[08:10:55] to commit.
[08:10:56] And Gaiman able to survive long enough with
[08:10:58] the heals, the other two heals can come in
[08:11:00] once more a misstep by Liquid
[08:11:03] leads to objective taking
[08:11:04] by Gaiman as they take a Rax at 23 and 1 half in this game.
[08:11:08] The troubles do not stop for Liquid,
[08:11:10] the nightmare only continues here. here
[08:11:22] this day just keeping his bottom he's gotta hit some creeps
[08:11:25] away from that bkB. Seals are just
[08:11:26] tanking up the team gold
[08:11:28] is what's winning game in these games
[08:11:30] time and time again, there's no easy
[08:11:33] targets for Liquid to jump
[08:11:34] this is a 5 enigma just showing
[08:11:36] if you're not willing
[08:11:37] to jump this,
[08:11:38] like what are we doing here?
[08:11:39] They're afraid
[08:11:40] to jump him.
[08:11:41] Oh man.
[08:11:43] They are truly
[08:11:45] mind screwed
[08:11:47] at this point in time.
[08:11:47] They can't go for it, and by the time they go for it
[08:11:49] yeah, it is a trap now!
[08:11:52] Vacuum Cogs will keep them out of the way
[08:11:56] for a little bit.
[08:12:00] Try to hit the reality rifts, Misha gets the blink backwards before he's caught
[08:12:02] but it's his second tier three down.
[08:12:05] Glyph will hold it for awhile longer
[08:12:07] 10 seconds left on the Aegis.
[08:12:10] Garaccio is just going to get in.
[08:12:13] I mean, you have to call like it is, right?
[08:12:15] I feel as though Game and Have
[08:12:17] just completely broken Liquid.
[08:12:20] Across these five games, they have broken their drafts,
[08:12:22] broken their lanes, broken their gameplay
[08:12:24] and now
[08:12:25] it seems like they've broken their mentality as well.
[08:12:29] There's just nothing
[08:12:30] left, hesitation, misplays,
[08:12:32] pickoffs on the map, nowhere near
[08:12:35] clean enough to combat what Gaming are doing right now
[08:12:36] as they're firing on all cylinders, this is
[08:12:39] absolutely one of the best teams in the world when they are
[08:12:41] hitting their peak form, and they have come
[08:12:43] into stride at the right time
[08:12:45] in the right place
[08:12:47] in the right meta. That's right.
[08:12:49] They found their meta. They are playing it to perfection and they are forcing errors out of every team
[08:12:55] they've run across for clean games.
[08:12:59] They could be looking at one loss in the playoffs for a full championship.
[08:13:07] Very dominant run.
[08:13:08] Extremely, 19 to 11, 16,000 net worth lead,
[08:13:11] a lane of barracks, Two lanes of barracks.
[08:13:14] All that's left
[08:13:15] is a tier 2
[08:13:17] tier 3
[08:13:18] second Roshan perhaps
[08:13:21] and by the time Liquid second roshan perhaps
[08:13:29] and by the time liquid gets these bkbs you have to wonder if the network deficit is going to be too much for them to be able to smell with just debuff immunity at least you're preventing a lot of the damage
[08:13:38] coming out from some of these spell casters but there are still things like black hole to worry
[08:13:41] about dorachio going in maybe you get a wall up at the start.
[08:13:45] A lot of sustain on this game and lineup.
[08:13:48] And of course you don't have a blink SF here
[08:13:50] it's not like good instant follow-up with Requiem
[08:13:52] on some Roar.
[08:13:54] It's just all about the tiny fine toss backs or win the fight off the damage
[08:13:58] start you're looking for a solo play this is ambitious yeah but i mean with no work
[08:14:03] that toku is going to come in with a save.
[08:14:06] Got the backup.
[08:14:07] So Jirachi knows all he has to do is just make sure that 33 can't retreat
[08:14:11] and the rest of his team will follow it up
[08:14:15] And they're going to try and go for the epicenter burst on Nikkei at
[08:14:17] the same time. Boxy can he do anything to stop this when
[08:14:20] he's trying with a battery salt tries to pull him away from Nikkei that cogs may
[08:14:23] have just done it with the glimmer cape from Insania, they
[08:14:26] do manage to keep their carry alive.
[08:14:29] I mean, Celery could have just blink black hold there.
[08:14:31] He didn't want to get hookshot.
[08:14:33] Maybe not give it to Rubick.
[08:14:37] There's Durantio! The ever aggressive carry! there's
[08:14:37] Durantio
[08:14:38] the ever
[08:14:39] aggressive
[08:14:39] carry
[08:14:40] and when
[08:14:41] he is on
[08:14:42] point it
[08:14:43] looks so
[08:14:44] good
[08:14:44] he has
[08:14:46] decimated
[08:14:48] liquid across these five games. Like the group performance, especially his Chaos Knight. Absolutely one of the best in the world.
[08:14:58] The first of three has been achieved they don't want to wait for backdoor
[08:15:06] they know what is ahead of them right now on this last lane racks from sean potential spawn time it's coming
[08:15:15] in game gladiators listen neva was gonna have bkb before he has some of these liquid heroes yeah i don't think 33
[08:15:25] is getting gold in the last three or four minutes here sf is honestly still
[08:15:32] 600 off his...
[08:15:34] No, he should have it.
[08:15:36] Never mind. He will have it in 100. So you will
[08:15:38] have the SS.
[08:15:40] Doesn't prevent him getting black hold and you do have the tinies he sure was
[08:15:43] debating to be give me or the eggs and opted for the BKB so all it's left is a
[08:15:49] beast masters here which is the farthest away but they're giving him farm priority liquid just
[08:15:56] trying to get triple bkb up here take the next fight and see what happens could be
[08:16:00] the last one here of their tournament lives and they're definitely all in
[08:16:08] and if they were to get this fast enough they might even be able
[08:16:11] to get out on the map that and contest Roshan.
[08:16:15] Thank you Gladiators, it's up for the taking.
[08:16:18] It was a very early Roshan spawn.
[08:16:20] Aghs on Weaver! Oh!
[08:16:22] There is just so much to get through here.
[08:16:27] And you don't have enough firepower to do it like that.
[08:16:30] You commit on somebody they get we rags
[08:16:32] after the fight over probably.
[08:16:34] Yeah, it's you primal roar
[08:16:35] somebody and it's...
[08:16:37] And by the way
[08:16:37] this bottle on Quinn right now
[08:16:39] holds a shield rune
[08:16:41] which could also just be huge
[08:16:42] in this next fight
[08:16:43] considering how tanky
[08:16:44] he is on the front line
[08:16:45] Crimson Guard completed for the Dark Seer.
[08:16:46] Shiva's Bloodstone and his Shield Rune
[08:16:49] if he's the target?
[08:16:51] Ah, you don't see how he dies.
[08:16:53] Toku gets a little information,
[08:16:55] knows that Liquid is outside of the map.
[08:16:56] They also have a big wave pushing in mid.
[08:16:59] Nisha he's gonna try for it, Quinn starts the initiation
[08:17:03] Trying to make himself the target activating the cheats
[08:17:05] and Nisha gets the toss in to the Requiem
[08:17:08] trying to combo onto Ace! They go for the Primal
[08:17:10] Roar! So many Ultimates being used
[08:17:12] to try and kill him, but there's the time lapse!
[08:17:14] They saved Ace! Now they've got the Black Hole
[08:17:16] on the SF, and they are going to demolish Liquid. Triple BKB does nothing for you when you are flat out, outgunned, outplayed.
[08:17:28] Four dead.
[08:17:29] GG is called the cleanest series of your life game
[08:17:33] and Gladiators take it 3-0 away from Liquid.
[08:17:37] There's not much left to say about this
[08:17:40] series between these two teams, we have seen
[08:17:42] it before, we see it again here but
[08:17:44] this felt maybe one of the more
[08:17:46] one-sided of all of these matchups
[08:17:48] in their long history. Just absolute
[08:17:51] decimation, clinical
[08:17:52] outplays across all three games from
[08:17:55] everybody on gaming stepping up
[08:17:56] going back to the brood game on
[08:17:58] Dorachio to this game with Quinn on that Sand King
[08:18:01] mid. He just snapped
[08:18:03] Liquid's path with those plays
[08:18:05] around the ruins with the Stinger
[08:18:07] and the Phase Boots. And Liquid
[08:18:09] are left once more wondering how they can
[08:18:12] overcome the ultimate nightmare
[08:18:14] of a team, the ultimate nightmare
[08:18:16] they find themselves in. Their glory
[08:18:18] will once more be denied from
[08:18:20] this squad as Gaming claim another huge title, maybe
[08:18:23] the biggest of this team's
[08:18:25] lifetime as they were denied a TI
[08:18:27] but they find an esports
[08:18:29] World Cup championship. That's right
[08:18:30] They're working with their own curse so many times a team that dominates
[08:18:34] the regular season ends up failing when it comes to the finish line and does not do well
[08:18:39] at the finals at the end of the year.
[08:18:42] Game of Gladiators had that happen
[08:18:44] to them last year, and while
[08:18:46] the regular season definitely was
[08:18:48] not great for them
[08:18:50] they showed up at the right time in
[08:18:52] the year. Let's go around look at the right time of the year. Let's go around and look
[08:18:54] at the most dominant form, maybe more
[08:18:56] dominant than they did the entirety of last
[08:18:58] year. Just this tournament alone
[08:19:00] one of the cleanest you've ever seen.
[08:19:03] They have had their struggles but as you said Dota is about figuring out what to do in the moment adapting finding your strengths remembering
[08:19:11] what made you a good team as you were and they have definitely remembered it here
[08:19:15] and re-found a lot of their strength
[08:19:19] quinn he'll take that key looks like he took that mid lane away
[08:19:24] from liquid they will approach the trophy like he took that mid lane away from Liquid.
[08:19:26] They will approach the trophy
[08:19:28] that they worked so hard for last year,
[08:19:31] but this year is the year of gaming gladiators
[08:19:35] The absolute kings of the early game an extremely dominant tournament throughout
[08:19:44] and there you have it give it up for your champions, Gaming Gladiators! so so so so That's what we need! That's what we need!
[08:20:43] That's what we need!
[08:20:48] Rion Masters 2024 Champion,
[08:20:51] Jameon Gladiator!
[08:21:09] Play it to my fans. I've heard you remark yourself as more of a hard worker than the natural talent.
[08:21:16] And I can tell that you've been putting in the hours these past few months, trying to return to the glory that was that 2023 run.
[08:21:21] Do you think that this moment is a representation of all the effort you've been putting in?
[08:21:23] I'm seeing you go up against these Huskars,
[08:21:24] these tinies,
[08:21:25] these sand kings and not breaking a sweat at all.
[08:21:29] Yeah,
[08:21:29] I think hard work does pay off
[08:21:31] and we put a lot of time into boot camp
[08:21:33] and to this tournament at the time before that
[08:21:35] going from being really bad to
[08:21:37] being good again. So I'm just glad
[08:21:39] that we were able to make that rise again
[08:21:41] And it is proof positive with
[08:21:43] this event. Tofu I spoke with you just a couple of days ago
[08:21:47] where you were telling me about the trials and tribulations
[08:21:50] of maintaining consistency both within in-game and out of game, you feel like this is now
[08:21:58] reflecting that the effort was worth it. And everything that you had gone through
[08:22:02] the difficulties are making up for the rewards.
[08:22:09] We had a lot of difficulties before and I feel like we've been trying
[08:22:10] for weeks and months honestly,
[08:22:11] especially this last stretch
[08:22:13] where you're putting so much time, effort
[08:22:15] and passion into this whole project.
[08:22:16] And I'm just super proud that it paid off
[08:22:19] and we could show what we're actually capable of
[08:22:22] . And what you're capable
[08:22:23] of is championships
[08:22:25] and for Dorachio specifically, not just a championship but a 3-0!
[08:22:31] One that you have claimed multiple times in the past.
[08:22:33] I remember during Kuala Lumpur
[08:22:36] You thought it was going gonna be a 3-0
[08:22:39] and yet you were not shaken.
[08:22:40] Once again, you show up here
[08:22:42] and you're like, it's going to be a 3-0.
[08:22:43] Are you just saying it or do you actually have a read?
[08:22:46] I mean they asked me to say it but to be honest like
[08:22:49] expect us to play well against Liquid because we have really nice matchup,
[08:22:53] we also show it like yesterday we kind of smacked them so today it happens again
[08:22:58] which brings me to Celery!
[08:23:02] What is it about Liquid?
[08:23:04] Is it them or was this just your tournament?
[08:23:06] It didn't matter who was going to show up in
[08:23:08] Grand Finals, you knew you had their number.
[08:23:11] It didn't matter. We were ready.
[08:23:13] It's just that easy!
[08:23:15] I had a dream like a week ago we
[08:23:17] were gonna win so dreams come true sometimes.
[08:23:21] And the dream has
[08:23:23] come true, Ace!
[08:23:25] Any closing thoughts for all
[08:23:27] of the Game and Gladiators fans who
[08:23:29] have been waiting for your rise and your return to prominence
[08:23:32] and have been patiently rewarded.
[08:23:36] Yeah, like there were some games
[08:23:37] that was a lot of other crowd cheering for other teams
[08:23:40] but we could always hear some gaming fans out there so i
[08:23:43] wanted to thank you all for that you guys are the best and it seems to me
[08:23:49] that the cannon fans are here in full effect for one last time please a round of applause for your
[08:23:55] champions and there is one more order of business, Salary.
[08:24:06] This trophy that you're holding and the key that you have put into it
[08:24:09] You've been walking by the Totem every single morning
[08:24:12] And its time to immortalize you in esports World Cup history
[08:24:15] So shall we? Join me as we make our way over.
[08:24:23] An absolute dominating run here in the upper bracket from Gaming Gladiators.
[08:24:28] They are your React Masters 2024 champions, and I think as we saw
[08:24:34] their writing on the wall.
[08:24:37] These guys are just too good, they're just better
[08:24:40] They have...they're the ones that are setting the meta of the tournament
[08:24:43] like what to do with the auras
[08:24:45] And every time a team played them it just felt like
[08:24:47] every single time that enemy team
[08:24:49] they're just a step behind. They can't match up in pace
[08:24:51] they can't match how fast you can move around
[08:24:53] what items you can do but
[08:24:55] all these small things with the team fighting that to me is what really sets
[08:24:57] this team apart. They do all these things that other teams
[08:24:59] don't, that just allows them to win
[08:25:01] Yeah and I think
[08:25:03] when there is a patch
[08:25:05] where the auras are strong, this is when Gaming
[08:25:08] Ladders is always at the top.
[08:25:10] No team knows how to play these...
[08:25:12] I'm not going to say death ball but these high tempo
[08:25:14] fast early game type of strategies
[08:25:16] better than them. Like no team can even go to 40
[08:25:19] minutes against this team, it's impossible
[08:25:20] they just beat you before that and
[08:25:22] I think especially for this tournament
[08:25:24] it's a bit of a blessing in disguise that earlier
[08:25:26] they didn't do so well. They just came out of this patch swinging,
[08:25:29] but there's pretty much no data on them or like how good
[08:25:31] they are right now and no team has
[08:25:33] any time to figure it out and Quinn
[08:25:35] he gets demortalized gaming gladiators
[08:25:38] here. I'll just say,
[08:25:39] I feel like this tournament,
[08:25:41] especially the lower bracket was characterized by teams making
[08:25:43] uncharacteristic mistakes and the one team that I can confidently
[08:25:47] say never did that the entire tournament or at least
[08:25:51] the playoffs was gaming gladiators like there's a lot of pressure,
[08:25:55] there's a lot stakes. Dota is a mental game how many times have you guys at home
[08:25:59] or us even just played bad in a pub
[08:26:01] Or in a tournament match because we're nervous,
[08:26:03] Because we're having a bad day?
[08:26:05] How do you have a team like that
[08:26:06] That just never has a bad day?
[08:26:08] They're having such confidence about the meta
[08:26:11] About their strategy About and identity as a team.
[08:26:13] We talked about their dynamic as a unit when we interviewed Dorachio
[08:26:16] He just said that they've been together for so long
[08:26:18] and understand each other so well
[08:26:20] he seems happy with the rest of them
[08:26:21] they are all smiley in a game that causes
[08:26:24] so much stress when we are thinking about these moments
[08:26:27] that could be and mean so much at each pivotal time
[08:26:30] A teammate makes a mistake, you have to lift them up. Sorry, Brian.
[08:26:33] I just realized what they're doing.
[08:26:34] Oh, are they choosing their three keys?
[08:26:35] They have things to choose!
[08:26:37] It has...
[08:26:37] Okay.
[08:26:37] It has to be Liquid, right?
[08:26:39] We've got to, for one more time
[08:26:40] for the road.
[08:26:41] Liquid, Falcons, Bibbidi-Bobbidi.
[08:26:42] Yeah, I was going to say Quinn promisedcons, Bibbidi-Bobbidi... Yeah I was going to say Quinn promised
[08:26:44] me a Bibbidi-Bobbidi team and
[08:26:46] he did it all. He promised it.
[08:26:48] How much does Quinn have
[08:26:50] to say here? It's Falcons actually
[08:26:52] for sure liquid just I don't know why maybe liquid keys is
[08:26:56] because obviously their key was still alive until just you know maybe 10 minutes ago so
[08:27:00] maybe he's not there yet because oh that's true but i would imagine you know what how arrogant would it be to just
[08:27:08] not put liquid because you know they get them anyway the only team they dropped a game two in
[08:27:11] the upper bracket was falcons yeah well you have to put falcons you have to put Falcons, you have
[08:27:16] to put Falcons I feel like...
[08:27:18] They made their choices.
[08:27:20] Are we gonna be able to tell?
[08:27:22] We're going to be,
[08:27:24] we are going to get some words in just a second so
[08:27:26] we're going to find out the rest of the keys will all be dropped
[08:27:29] under the totem they will all be encased and resin as you've heard
[08:27:32] multiple times throughout this real masters this totem will be immortalized on the boulevard
[08:27:38] and um next year around there's just another
[08:27:40] totem and this totem will forever feature gaming gladiators as
[08:27:44] the champion here of dota 2. do we see any days i couldn't read fast enough
[08:27:51] quinn hold them in the camera please don't drop them but it's uh oh He thought about it. He hears you.
[08:27:59] Well he might actually hear me. This is a good point.
[08:28:01] Probably not. We're on the big stage.
[08:28:02] I'm waiting for that grand reveal.
[08:28:04] Yeah we are going to get that grand reveal with Tsunami.
[08:28:09] Quip? with Tsunami. Quinn, you have
[08:28:11] gathered up three keys. You mind
[08:28:13] sharing with me your choices?
[08:28:16] Yes, we selected
[08:28:17] Liquid, Falcons and Spirit.
[08:28:20] Okay! Pretty reasonable options. Let's take a look at Spirit.
[08:28:23] Team Spirit pretty understandable last year's champions TI two-time winners
[08:28:28] anything beyond that or just their legacy?
[08:28:31] I mean, they crushed our dreams last year so we get to crush a piece of metal
[08:28:35] The revenge for Seattle! I love to see it
[08:28:39] How about your second choice, Falcons?
[08:28:41] They beat everybody all year so you got
[08:28:43] to put them in there out of respect.
[08:28:46] And maybe someone trying to take away
[08:28:48] from your legacy of last year. 2023 most dominant team, 2024 you got
[08:28:53] to win Riyadh Masters maybe and
[08:28:55] your last one Team Liquid I feel like
[08:28:58] i don't even need to ask about this
[08:28:59] one but just for the people why'd
[08:29:01] you choose Team Liquid?
[08:29:03] To be honest it's just kind of funny.
[08:29:06] That's the main reason.
[08:29:08] The man is doing it for the memes
[08:29:09] but you are all business when it comes
[08:29:11] to the game and in regards that i would like
[08:29:14] to congratulate you as not only are you the champions of real masters you are the playstation
[08:29:19] mvp for this event that's exactly the reaction i was hoping for and as a result of that you also are
[08:29:26] a winner of a fifty thousand dollar cash prize what on earth
[08:29:32] i didn't even know that was a thing.
[08:29:34] I thought it was just like a PlayStation,
[08:29:35] that's pretty dope.
[08:29:37] You can get many, many PlayStations with that!
[08:29:39] But if we could reflect on the tournament as a whole
[08:29:41] and your mid performance,
[08:29:43] Like I said on stage
[08:29:44] you've been working really hard for your entire career and your mid performance. Like I said on stage,
[08:29:45] you've been working really hard for your entire career
[08:29:47] as a professional player.
[08:29:49] Were there any moments
[08:29:49] during this past year
[08:29:50] where you felt like
[08:29:52] the glory that you had achieved
[08:29:54] in all of 2023
[08:29:56] would be difficult or possibly even impossible to return to,
[08:29:59] or did you have faith
[08:30:00] that a moment like this would happen?
[08:30:02] I mean,
[08:30:02] I don't think I ever lost faith
[08:30:04] that it was possible for us to win.
[08:30:05] We were, we had sort of a rough year in terms of if you compare it I don't think I ever lost faith that it was possible for us to win.
[08:30:06] We had a rough year compared to our prior year,
[08:30:09] but I believe in everyone on the team and
[08:30:12] we just have to figure stuff out.
[08:30:14] There's always problems and fixing problems
[08:30:16] and it took awhile for us to fix those problems.
[08:30:18] And as for the mid lane in general during this competition,
[08:30:22] how have you felt?
[08:30:23] Were you pushed to the limit?
[08:30:25] Are we returning to peak Quinn?
[08:30:27] Or is peak Quinn going to show up maybe even in Copenhagen.
[08:30:30] I think I've always got room to go, you know there were some games
[08:30:33] that ruined as there's that Ember game against Falcons it was not pretty so
[08:30:36] You know always always room to go up.
[08:30:39] Well we can't wait to see the path Quinn.
[08:30:41] Congratulations on a stellar performance
[08:30:43] and I'll let you enjoy
[08:30:45] the moment with your team.
[08:30:50] A well here well deserved the well-deserved mvp i
[08:30:53] think especially
[08:30:54] that game three we witnessed that
[08:30:56] midlane fear
[08:30:57] oh nisha is not going
[08:30:59] to be happy with
[08:31:00] that one.
[08:31:00] Yeah, I mean
[08:31:01] we'll keep him up
[08:31:02] for a few nights
[08:31:02] for sure because
[08:31:03] he has played
[08:31:04] that matchup
[08:31:04] multiple times
[08:31:05] and he was the
[08:31:06] one bullying
[08:31:06] the Sand King
[08:31:07] this is the first
[08:31:08] time where
[08:31:08] he just got
[08:31:09] absolutely no other way so he got dumpstered by Quindad in a matchup This is the first time where he just got...
[08:31:12] He got dumpster by Quinn in a matchup Where he should have felt confident winning.
[08:31:15] It's also something that Brian was talking about before,
[08:31:17] His confidence
[08:31:18] You can see it in his gameplay
[08:31:20] And here, Quinn told me a week ago I he's like I'm going to be the finals
[08:31:21] doesn't matter what's gonna happen.
[08:31:23] I'll be the finalist days ago.
[08:31:25] He's telling me you know Sanking is supposed to dumpster tiny mid
[08:31:27] every time he walks up
[08:31:28] you stinker him, you stun him
[08:31:30] he showed this year and this series. I didn't know this matchup
[08:31:32] was supposed to work this way but when you know things others don't and you can play to your ability
[08:31:36] then you get a team and player winning Gaming Gladiators. There's something about
[08:31:40] this team where they have confidence but it doesn't feel like cockiness.
[08:31:43] They are willing to acknowledge their own mistakes. It feels like they're holding each other accountable and themselves
[08:31:48] accountable which is super important whenever things go south
[08:31:51] And I think that's a part of why they were able to come back this year.
[08:31:53] Like you said rally the troops really figure out our problems so much of Dota is just problem after
[08:31:58] problem after problem new metas present new problems once you've figured it all out
[08:32:02] And i think that process for them is what
[08:32:04] is going to land them here consistently, whether there's
[08:32:06] going to be down periods in their performances
[08:32:08] but they'll always be one of the championship
[08:32:10] teams as long as this is a roster that sticks together.
[08:32:12] Yeah, I feel like we should just quickly touch upon the gum shall
[08:32:17] be revealed we should reveal okay so quinn had something going where he would listen to music
[08:32:23] before games to get himself in the zone.
[08:32:24] People knew that, they saw him walking around with their headphones
[08:32:26] He was like don't talk you know he's getting in the zone
[08:32:29] Right but apparently that wore off so the new thing what Apes
[08:32:32] Was telling him you should chew gum
[08:32:34] So apparently him chewing gum,
[08:32:36] opening his mouth all the time and looking like a
[08:32:38] moron is what really gets him in the zone
[08:32:40] and gets him all pumped up so if it makes
[08:32:42] you win a tournament maybe I should start doing it.
[08:32:44] He said that if it makes me look like a madman
[08:32:47] it's all the more power to him because he feels like then people go up against them you know
[08:32:52] it's only the best thing you don't know what's going on.
[08:32:57] It's really a case of... But I will also say scientifically proven that your brain activity increases with gum chewing.
[08:33:02] So maybe there's some science to it as well.
[08:33:05] Man's a scientist. What can he do?
[08:33:06] What can you do? What can you do?
[08:33:08] What can you do gaming gladiators that mean team liquid couldn't do anything against gaming gladiators
[08:33:14] I you know, I I
[08:33:16] Kinda am sad that we didn't get a
[08:33:19] really competitive game even if gaming
[08:33:22] 130
[08:33:23] but i think it goes to show brian that
[08:33:26] this team is just something else yeah
[08:33:28] let's just consider the fact
[08:33:29] that Team Liquid has been showing
[08:33:31] their top three, top two teams
[08:33:33] in the world consistently across
[08:33:35] the last two years and yet
[08:33:37] they look like a bunch of scrubs against game
[08:33:40] in the finals for some reason. And that's
[08:33:42] just a crazy part about Dota is you're only
[08:33:44] as good as you are compared to your opponent
[08:33:46] even if outside of this series
[08:33:48] these teams are somewhat equal game and has their number.
[08:33:51] It feels like a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point.
[08:33:54] I don't know if it's more gain,
[08:33:55] it's confidence or liquid just seems completely demoralized with no faith in
[08:33:58] themselves.
[08:33:59] Every time we watch them it gets a
[08:34:00] little bit worse so maybe it's combination of both yeah i mean i
[08:34:04] definitely think it is very common when a team will lose
[08:34:07] against another team repetitively yeah it's in your head
[08:34:10] and there's very hard to get rid of that
[08:34:12] and I don't even know if you can. It's not as bad
[08:34:14] as just you think you're going to lose at
[08:34:16] some point because you're playing against them but the guys you're
[08:34:18] playing against feels like they can't lose against you
[08:34:20] so they're playing even better. So, it's like a double whammy
[08:34:23] there where games get like this
[08:34:25] where this matchup happens. It happens over
[08:34:27] and over again. I don't know how you
[08:34:28] combat that but it's going to be very hard
[08:34:31] for Liquid to overcome this against Gaming Gliders.
[08:34:33] But luckily for Gaming Gliders,
[08:34:34] they have another potential championship team
[08:34:37] that they just have their number on.
[08:34:38] Yep, for sure.
[08:34:40] As we get a big wave
[08:34:41] to the high camera out there from Quinn.
[08:34:44] I will also say, Game Gatherers they take home $1.5 million
[08:34:48] which is an insane amount and yeah
[08:34:51] they absolutely smashed Team Liquid both in the upper bracket finals and in
[08:34:55] the grand finals just now but coming second is still very good and it also
[08:35:00] still nets you 800 000 so it's not like you you know, they're bad.
[08:35:04] They are just always second place.
[08:35:07] I mean at least for this iteration
[08:35:09] It is still a huge improvement
[08:35:11] I did not see them getting 2nd place in this tournament
[08:35:13] I will say that they have improved a lot and they have looked good.
[08:35:16] It's just not against this team, like Fierce saying when you keep losing to the same players
[08:35:21] The same team it's in your head. You need to win 50 small engagements
[08:35:25] Against this team and they're just not capable. They need to win like 50 small engagements against this team,
[08:35:26] and they're just not capable.
[08:35:28] They need to improve, learn, talk about it, whatever it is.
[08:35:30] I'm not sure what it is but they will have to improve
[08:35:33] for example at TI if it happens again you better show a better game.
[08:35:36] I definitely have a theory on these two teams.
[08:35:38] These two teams when they're both doing...
[08:35:40] They are either doing poorly or they're both doing well.
[08:35:43] And I think it comes into the fast meta.
[08:35:46] Whenever the fast metas around these teams
[08:35:48] really shine, and Gaiman's just
[08:35:50] the faster team, right? And Liquid seems
[08:35:52] to be the second fastest team in
[08:35:54] the metas that do really promote this type of
[08:35:56] playstyle. So I don't really put a lot of blame on Liquid.
[08:35:59] Gaiman are just better.
[08:36:03] There's not much to follow up on, obviously.
[08:36:04] No, it really is not!
[08:36:06] I'm like, wow, that actually seems
[08:36:07] like a very good closing statement.
[08:36:08] We're not we're not closing just yet though as
[08:36:11] I do also want to touch up some on us touch
[08:36:13] on some of the other favorite teams
[08:36:15] that we saw coming and going this
[08:36:18] Riyadh Masters is the first well the two teams they come to mind
[08:36:21] are of course the two other keys that team gaming gladiators just now chose to have in their trophy
[08:36:27] because i think if you were to ask anyone at the start of Rearmasters who was going
[08:36:31] to win this 2024 Rearmasters, it would be one of these four teams, Game and Liquid.
[08:36:38] But the two that will probably be mentioned more often
[08:36:40] is Jay's Falcons and Spirit.
[08:36:42] Yeah, Falcons pulled their gaming impression from last year
[08:36:45] win every tournament up until now
[08:36:47] then get third through sixth or so in the final 2
[08:36:50] So I'd have to say that we have,
[08:36:53] I wonder what's going to happen with the patch and the meta between now
[08:36:57] and TI is it going to remain the same?
[08:36:58] If these teams have more time to figure it out,
[08:37:00] will they be able to crack the code?
[08:37:02] As you mentioned, Team Liquid was struggling
[08:37:03] to do fear during that series.
[08:37:05] All these teams though,
[08:37:06] like there's a reason
[08:37:07] they put those three in there.
[08:37:08] That's quite the notch
[08:37:09] to add to your belt
[08:37:10] when you consider winning this tournament.
[08:37:12] Yeah. Just put the other teams that have won championships while
[08:37:15] you were watching now you're finally on top and you just throw them
[08:37:18] in your trophy, you are the king now.
[08:37:20] You are the king now.
[08:37:21] I believe we just watched a fairly one-sided series but it still had some good plays to watch and I believe we still have some plays of the day that we would like to show you. It's not just last game we watched but i think there's going
[08:37:35] to be a couple that are featured in there i think celery's black hole for example one
[08:37:38] of them let's take a look at this one this is in game number two of this series yeah
[08:37:44] this one was mine i I just really wanted to
[08:37:45] highlight Quinn here sitting on the sideline
[08:37:47] there. It looks like a good initiation. You end up killing
[08:37:49] both supports there but Quinn blinks in with
[08:37:51] the nice Requiem. Kills the Sand
[08:37:53] King there as well. Duracho coming from the backline
[08:37:55] as well with an ace,
[08:37:57] one of those highlight again
[08:37:58] this fight was completely over
[08:37:59] for Gaiman but that one
[08:38:00] Requiem just completely turned
[08:38:02] the tide to this fire
[08:38:03] and they end up chasing down
[08:38:04] every single one
[08:38:05] of those heroes afterwards
[08:38:06] and getting their first swipe pretty much yeah and then there was another kiddie play
[08:38:09] of the day because this one is yours yes thanks for the spoil she says uh it's gonna be a
[08:38:14] pretty sick positioning from celery as he tucks himself within those trees.
[08:38:18] Not very often do you see hype black holes from a support Enigma, let alone like so early in the game
[08:38:23] He doesn't have a blink yet just impe impeccable positioning, foresight,
[08:38:28] little bit of baiting coming out from game
[08:38:30] and these are the type of plays I feel like happening
[08:38:31] when we're...
[08:38:33] The dynamic that we were talking about.
[08:38:35] One team's feeling themselves,
[08:38:36] the other team gets a little bit overeager.
[08:38:38] Chase is after Celery just presence of mind on point
[08:38:42] seals the deal of the entire tournament
[08:38:44] and it was also very important timing because that happened right
[08:38:46] after a fight where we thought if anything is gonna turn
[08:38:51] this series it would have been the fight that happened just before that but then celery's
[08:38:54] like now no but that's also the problem like against these teams that are the best at what
[08:38:58] you need to do everything right. You make one small mistake,
[08:39:01] Quinn had some illusion rune, he
[08:39:02] dodges the toss damage, they keep chasing
[08:39:04] sometimes and suddenly you're on a high ground
[08:39:06] their salary... Oh well I guess we lost
[08:39:08] anyway. During the entire Riot Masters anyway during the entire real masters and during
[08:39:11] the entire esports world cup there's also been
[08:39:14] uh player bounties happening at fort dota 2
[08:39:17] we had the escape player bounty.
[08:39:20] And for this escape player bounty,
[08:39:24] we go to a series that happened yesterday
[08:39:27] to Omar where he was playing Rubick up against Team Falcons because we would be happy to remember this moment
[08:39:33] we're about to watch the clip i mean spoiler omar let's have a look so
[08:39:40] cause i remembered a different one here.
[08:39:42] My friend has Blink Force, so...
[08:39:44] Yeah, use it both!
[08:39:46] ...quick on the fingers.
[08:39:48] He is going to go whoop the wrong way.
[08:39:50] Okay nice he drops it.
[08:39:57] Nice dodging this man's the matrix he's got the fancy footwork
[08:40:03] yeah and the six tp out keeping in he's going to roche so Keeping in, he's going to Roche.
[08:40:04] Yeah,
[08:40:05] he's going top
[08:40:05] and he's out
[08:40:06] still cloning
[08:40:07] out of there.
[08:40:08] That is good.
[08:40:09] He is
[08:40:09] out of there
[08:40:10] and I know
[08:40:11] that was a lot
[08:40:12] of jokes
[08:40:12] made during this remasters about because we have the PlayStation MVP and nobody that wins the MVP wins the PlayStation.
[08:40:21] However, the Escape Play does award a PlayStation he and he takes home the PlayStation
[08:40:30] leaders even placing five so that. That's PlayStation 5.
[08:40:36] Also you might have seen this little box underneath me.
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[08:41:00] Thank you, Brian. Back to you, Fear.
[08:41:02] Taking it to HR.
[08:41:06] Wow! That escalated very quickly.
[08:41:09] I mean, we've had a fantastic event.
[08:41:11] It was three weeks filled with amazing Dota.
[08:41:14] I know our Grand Finals
[08:41:15] was over pretty fast
[08:41:16] but don't let that distract you from the fact
[08:41:19] that we did have the best teams here and played the best Dota
[08:41:22] they had in store for us. And I think
[08:41:24] we can all be happy with the last three weeks, Gesu!
[08:41:27] Oh absolutely, you had the best teams coming to play
[08:41:28] that kind of shapes the meta
[08:41:29] and lets people get better
[08:41:31] and show all their strategies
[08:41:32] so we can get a final switch
[08:41:34] You know could've been better
[08:41:35] but if one team is this much
[08:41:36] better than the rest
[08:41:37] what can you do?
[08:41:38] Game in are too good One thing I'd like to highlight was the play-in
[08:41:40] stage, we were seeing heroes like CK getting
[08:41:42] overall first picked early on in the draft and losing
[08:41:44] every game, and we were all like, why are all these teams
[08:41:46] picking CK and losing?
[08:41:48] It got explained to you by some of these top teams like
[08:41:51] Gaming especially. They must have been getting crushed in scrims by the top
[08:41:54] teams in the world and I think its funny to think that the teams that weren't even
[08:41:57] here yet were still dictating the meta we were seeing
[08:42:00] in the first week of this tournament.
[08:42:01] Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of crazy good storylines at this event.
[08:42:04] PSG Quest coming into this tournament taking out Spirit, nobody expected that.
[08:42:09] Then going into Falcons,
[08:42:11] Falcons losing to Liquid
[08:42:12] who Falcons won
[08:42:13] every single tournament
[08:42:14] of the year pretty much
[08:42:14] and Liquid take them out
[08:42:16] and then gaming back
[08:42:17] to the top again
[08:42:17] so a lot of good storylines
[08:42:19] so it was a really
[08:42:19] good tournament.
[08:42:20] It was a really
[08:42:20] good tournament
[08:42:21] I think also
[08:42:22] a lot of the teams that we saw here that fell short early
[08:42:24] will definitely hear more from them later on because
[08:42:26] I feel like there's...
[08:42:28] I mean, I feel this is also an event that happened
[08:42:30] fairly soon after our patch where things were still not yet figured out.
[08:42:34] I say that fairly soon, it's still a month or two ago but there is still not enough time to figure it out
[08:42:38] and I feel like a lot of teams have started to figure it out
[08:42:41] and they've learned so much from this that I'm sure
[08:42:43] that they're going to come back stronger in the future.
[08:42:45] This was the first three weeks, by the way, of the Esports World Cup.
[08:42:49] It's an event of a total eight weeks.
[08:42:52] Dota 2 might end here but well actually counter-strike also ends here
[08:42:59] but what coming week there's PUBG Mobile.
[08:43:04] There is Overwatch 2.
[08:43:05] There is Mobile Legends Bang Bang for the Women Tournament
[08:43:09] and there's going to be a lot more games
[08:43:12] A whole lot more games coming over the next five weeks so make sure you uh you bookmark
[08:43:18] the right channels to keep your eye on your favorite game there's a total of 22 games
[08:43:22] live here from riyadh and i'm sure that there's going to be some banger games
[08:43:27] being played it might not be dota 2 but it definitely will be good stuff for
[08:43:31] sure from all of us here thank you but for our final words we we are going to head over to Toonami.
[08:43:41] For one last thing...
[08:43:42] I've been grilling all of your players, CY
[08:43:44] but you and I have not gotten a chance to chat very much.
[08:43:47] And while normally that may not be a big deal,
[08:43:49] I know we had a lot of opportunities
[08:43:51] to chat last year.
[08:43:52] I vividly recall every single draft would end
[08:43:54] at Rio Masters 2023.
[08:43:56] I'd see your backstage
[08:43:57] and do it... You shared like some at Rio Masters 2023. I would see you backstage and
[08:43:59] you'd share some thoughts
[08:44:01] about the tournament as a whole,
[08:44:03] the drafts...
[08:44:05] This year you've been
[08:44:07] more of a recluse to me. What's up with that?
[08:44:08] Why are you hiding from it?
[08:44:10] Oh, I don't think I'm hiding like
[08:44:11] I'm by nature very introverted
[08:44:12] so I kind of just do my thing,
[08:44:13] you know, like last year
[08:44:17] I'm not sure why actually
[08:44:18] there was just more to tell now and, it's also a bit more like
[08:44:21] every day for me now but it feels good to win honestly
[08:44:25] It feels really good
[08:44:26] But originally when you started coaching
[08:44:28] it was nothing but wins
[08:44:29] I vividly recall we would
[08:44:31] talk about you had a rare 100%
[08:44:33] success rate as a coach
[08:44:34] and as we've all
[08:44:37] mentioned over the past 8 months
[08:44:39] or so, the win rate became more normal.
[08:44:41] You are mortal it seems
[08:44:44] So you returning back to form
[08:44:46] what has this journey for the past
[08:44:48] 8 months been like for you?
[08:44:50] I mean its been very difficult.
[08:44:52] I think last year, it was not only something to do with me or anything
[08:44:55] The team was a really good league and we found some good stuff that worked for us
[08:44:59] Obviously New York players are very good
[08:45:00] That is why I also wanted to work with them in any way that I could.
[08:45:04] I think for the last eight months or whatever it has been really rough.
[08:45:09] We have come to realize we need to put in way more hard work and
[08:45:12] that's what
[08:45:12] we have done. And it's working out for now, who knows if it will work out in the future
[08:45:16] but I think the most important thing is to keep it going
[08:45:17] and the moment that people don't want to do that anymore I think they should do
[08:45:21] something else so I hope that they all want to keep doing that.
[08:45:24] So then how about for you as a coach?
[08:45:26] I see obviously from players grind out pubs, figure out matchups, things like that.
[08:45:31] But as a coach it's a little bit more nebulous.
[08:45:33] I know you definitely grind out pups but beyond that
[08:45:35] what would you consider your responsibilities
[08:45:37] and if they've changed
[08:45:39] as the team has kind of started to suffer
[08:45:41] a little bit or did you stay focused
[08:45:43] with what always brought you success in the first place?
[08:45:45] Like for this tournament, I took over drafting.
[08:45:48] I've been doing the drafting since the first tournament and I just drafted.
[08:45:52] So I did that to take some responsibility.
[08:45:54] I was always involved with drafting and
[08:45:56] like always been doing the prep and stuff like that
[08:45:58] but like I felt it took some
[08:46:00] responsibility off my players shoulders in the games
[08:46:02] And I think it worked pretty well
[08:46:04] and I think its also worked in terms of drafts,
[08:46:07] so that's the thing I've changed
[08:46:09] other than that I do play a lot of Pops
[08:46:11] and not like high rank or by any means but
[08:46:13] I do think it helps me stay in touch with
[08:46:15] the game and understand the hero dynamics and what is good versus what,
[08:46:17] and so on.
[08:46:18] I do also put a lot of time into Dota
[08:46:21] demo mode, testing heroes, thinking about heroes,
[08:46:23] reading, whatever
[08:46:25] it takes, talking with the players, course, like there's always frustrations
[08:46:29] with yourself or other teammates, like it's very natural also on our team so we talk
[08:46:34] it through and I try to be as diplomatic and efficient, like a facilitator.
[08:46:46] So I put on many hats and take as much responsibility
[08:46:48] as I can on the team.
[08:46:50] So then you taking,
[08:46:52] as we see it in the game,
[08:46:53] The Crown for who's drafting...
[08:46:55] What was the discussion like
[08:46:57] for you to finally take control of that?
[08:46:59] Was it players coming to you or were you suggesting,
[08:47:01] hey guys things aren't working out maybe we need to mix these up a little bit.
[08:47:05] It was working fine I think our draft was fine
[08:47:08] also Celery was always doing it.
[08:47:11] If you don't mind me asking what was the event if you remember when it finally started to swap?
[08:47:16] Like...I'm not sure at some point I just think that Celery
[08:47:19] It was nice for him to focus on game and not speak too much about it.
[08:47:20] And then Tova took over the last Dream League we had,
[08:47:22] and we got second place so it wasn't bad or anything.
[08:47:24] But at bootcamp me and Ace also talked about
[08:47:26] that maybe I should do it just to take the burden off their shoulders
[08:47:30] because you play the best when
[08:47:32] you just have to think about your hero,
[08:47:33] your game mostly and how it interacts and so on.
[08:47:36] So we just,
[08:47:37] the conversation was more like I went
[08:47:39] to Togo for days and was like
[08:47:40] I think there's a draft
[08:47:41] and then
[08:47:41] so it was like you sure bro and i was like yeah
[08:47:45] and then we tried it we just tried to see how it went and it went fine and
[08:47:48] then we just continued and i'm not i can't say that's why it's always
[08:47:51] been better people playing better it's like it's always been better and people are playing
[08:47:52] better.
[08:47:52] It's like,
[08:47:53] it's hard to pinpoint
[08:47:54] things but
[08:47:54] I think it's
[08:47:56] a nice structure
[08:47:56] for us right now.
[08:47:57] There are a million
[08:47:58] different variables
[08:47:59] in every single Dota game
[08:48:00] the fact that you guys
[08:48:01] were willing to
[08:48:01] shift around the pieces and egos didn't get bruised.
[08:48:05] No one was like, no man, I'm the drafter, okay?
[08:48:08] But you were very communal about it.
[08:48:11] Yeah, no egos were bruised in that regard.
[08:48:14] I think I was also always a big part of it anyways
[08:48:17] so it wasn't unnatural
[08:48:18] It's not something new I had to learn or something like that
[08:48:20] I basically just have to get used to having the hero grid
[08:48:23] that I like and click the button.
[08:48:24] Like you know,
[08:48:25] where are all heroes?
[08:48:26] Switching on and stuff.
[08:48:27] It's more like a
[08:48:29] kind of down-to-earth thing
[08:48:30] to get used to.
[08:48:32] Well as someone like yourself
[08:48:33] I'm glad this is a moment of vindication
[08:48:34] to prove
[08:48:35] that you still have much to show the Dota community.
[08:48:37] CY it's been an amazing run.
[08:48:39] I always love getting the chance to speak to you.
[08:48:41] I'm glad we're able to do it again in championship form
[08:48:44] and just like you enjoy the moment with your team any last words
[08:48:48] if you have for the people thank you deal and uh yeah shout out all defense thank you for supporting
[08:48:52] us i hope we will continue and i hope we can continue to play well. Much love, man. Enjoy. so so so. so so so so so don't so so so so so so so so Ready, set, go! so The foreign foreign But we used to see a world that no one else sees.
[08:53:28] A big world, and it lives in us.
[08:53:31] The world of excitement that takes you there every time.
[08:55:10] The dream is harder but doesn't hurt you. foreign ¶¶ We'll be right back. so so.. so so I can't be without you I can't be without you so so so uh i can't so so Thank you. so um I can't be without you