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🎵 um I don't know. so so.
.. I All your secrets, promise you honestly I
Wouldn't use them against you unless
I thought it'd be fun
So I sit at home alone in your t-shirt
i'm wondering where it went from
when you always said it
how do you like me better than anyone
we can not, we We cannot, we cannot talk
We cannot just
trouble dust it off
the rest of thought cause
I cannot pretend
I'm your friend I'm nothing I don't feel right.
I don't feel bad I don't feel anything is so so ready set go so so
is She lived with us.
We used to count her delivery time only
We'd just count memories
We invented new ideas And if we wanted to,
we would turn them into myths
We used to think of it as a mother
and her friend
and the evening
But we used to see a world world no one else sees.
A big world that lives in us,
the world of enthusiasm that takes you there every time. The dream is harder but it doesn't matter foreign..
. We'll be right back. so ¶¶ Hey everybody, welcome to another roundtable I am SirAxiousLex here with Insania and Boxy on Team Liquid so good for you guys to join us here today. Welcome to the
podcasty thing where we don't talk about Dota. So thank you,
thank you my friend. What have you been doing outside of Dota?
Mr. Boxie
I mean, I can tell you what I do
Okay let me just tell you
The last two weeks
I've been at bootcamp
Playing Dota
What is that like?
And then before that
Yeah
I'm just playing Doro.
You wake up, you play Doro,
you eat, you sleep, and go to bed.
How many hours per day?
Too many.
Too many!
And also not enough.
But before that it's like too long ago
so I don't remember.
What?! I can tell you what I did though okay well I
went camping for the first time since that was like a kid yeah so neither my
girlfriend or I are like big camper type people no we're not the camper type people, you know? OK. Flexing. Flexing.
No problem.
We're not the camper-type people.
No, but you have a girlfriend that's flexing.
That's not flexing!
I don't know how that's like.
I'm trying to set up the set for something.
Just continue.
Continue.
And we're flexing for depressed people.
So that's not a very good thing. And like flexing for depressed people.
I have no idea how that's flexing, but anyway...
Someone loves me! That's flexing bro you need to flex!
Did you have a girlfriend?
That's not flexing!
I thought you meant the capping part is the flexing.
You don't go capping.
Let's just continue.
I'm in love.
That's flexing, bro.
Don't say that.
Anyway, so we decided to go camping.
Yes.
In like a tent? In like a tent and like attempt that's great so we
like bought like the cheapest tent oh no and it was like one of those you
just like pull it out of the bag and it just pops up
yeah all this sticks what are they talking about it's like a pop-up them
what yeah okay so it's like inner? It's like a pop-up then. What?
Yeah, those were real things.
OK, so it's in a circle.
It's like those where you're like
You know when you order at a festival?
When you spin the hook and bolt and screwing soaps.
No, no, no, you unzip like a thing,
you pull your hand out, and then you take off
the string that's
holding it all together,
and then it literally
pops up.
So how do you repackage it?
It has a way
that you package it down.
I can show you later.
You leave it in there.
It's kind of
a genius design.
The bears take it.
They live, they raise their families there.
Okay, yes.
So you know like normally I assume experienced campers look up the weather and figure out all this stuff.
We didn't do any of that.
We just sat in the car
put all the stuff in the back drove at some point we like call up the camping place or
like can you guys hold it called a camping place yeah like we called like a camping uh
we didn't camp in the woods i feel feel like you're going to a hotel.
No, it's like a camping place!
Don't listen to this.
If you go to a public park
You have to tell people where you are going?
Not as well.
Wait what? You pay for a... tell people you're going no no okay okay you like pay somewhere to go to like a camping place i mean last time i went camping
you just me and my friends just went into the woods near a trail
i didn't bring a sleeping bag i I almost died from freezing to death,
and we were just camping.
They didn't call anyone.
There was like a German guy with his kid
waking me up in the morning.
He was like hello!
And then I was like, hello.
That was your camping experience?
Yeah.
He had a really big RV, that guy.
Who is the German?
There was actually... So the camping car did go to...
It was legit only Germans.
Okay.
Every license plate on every RV was like it had
a German license.
Sure there's a lot of
German or there's
a lot to unpack here
but let's continue with
your story first.
I don't know you called
the camping place
when they call
the camping place
and they put up your tent,
like made you dinner.
Oh my God, dude.
I can't...
This is mockery of like-
No!
What it is?
So we went to the camping place,
We set up our tents and it like Sweden in the middle of summer.
So the sun is up and it's 1 AM.
We go to sleep.
It's pretty nice.
We bought these air mattresses that we got from my parents and they're like
my mom told me like one of them leaks we don't know which one but one of the weeks
it's like about three hours after like after we fall asleep.
I can feel like the ground on my back.
Oh no!
And it's like there is zero air left.
Oh no!
My girlfriend is in the car because she is freezing too much.
She is in the car?
She has put on like the heater
In a car?
It's not like dangerous
You didn't mention that, so it was raining
It started raining at some point
Did you call the camping people?
I would have!
The AC is not working as it supposed to be.
This camping experience is not up
to par.
It says five star camping on the website, but this is not the weather we booked.
We booked sunshine the entire way.
So it's just a location that they keep track of,
but there's no one else there?
Let's finish the story first, what happened?
There is no story, you just asked me
what I did and this is what I did.
Well so she was in the car-
That's a good story.
But how did it end?
How did it end?
It ended with us packing up our stuff
and then leaving.
So they went to shit? no like we stayed the night okay
when you woke up you had a nice breakfast we woke up we sat in the car we drove did you stop
stopping mcdonald's on the way no okay so we actually learned that
if you go to norwegian gas stations yeah the hot dogs they serve are way nicer
than the swedish ones and i never thought i would say anything good about
norway ever in my life wow that that came out of nowhere that's a left field
one what's wrong with norway but this is like it's just like it's really like banter you know like
okay sure sure all right that's a lot to unpack uh congrats i hope you had a lot of fun
it sounded not funny i enjoyed camping okay
better camping trip than the one i did i mean i've done that camp back on a
capping trip too but i feel like there's like a lot of
like camping places yeah is that that's the thing in the
u.s for sure it's no a camping place in my mind, there's like a fire...
Have you never been to a camping place?
Yes but there are not other people there.
No but it can't be like a college.
You literally just drive into the wilderness and set up.
That is one way to do it,
And then there's places in the wilderness that are like
take care of this area where people set up their tents.
There's a bathroom in the middle of like the place.
That's like a commune.
There's like a bunch of tents setting around.
Like you can go pay like 10 bucks to go there.
You pay them to go?
To sit in the grass?
They were like mow the lawn and everything.
What?
Is this what you're talking about?
None of this is real.
I think it just went on Airbnb.
Yeah.
I think he got scammed.
I'm being professionally gaslit.
I mean, not being professionally gaslit.
All good.
I do remember what I did now on my brick oh i tried out like
i can't say it what no but it's like uh it's not good. Not good for me,
not good for you. I went on a
bicycle and it ended great.
Okay!
Move on. Ask me something else.
Whatever that dark disturbing tale was... That means something you don't want to know.
I don't want to know anything! Okay, you got it. Why were there so many
Germans on your camping trip? Because Germany has a
much higher population than Sweden,
on the much smaller area.
So when they want to go and like hike or
buy a summer house or something
They go to Sweden or Norway or something
Same with the Dutch.
Sure!
Because they're concentrated
and Sweden has a lot of area.
Okay, thank you!
And nice nature I guess.
Alright.
If two were stuck in like a wilderness survival scenario...
Boxy.
Who would you eat first?
Yeah, okay, we've had this question on our team.
Sure.
Like who would survive the longest?
Yeah, yeah. And what I feel like most people don't know about boxy is
he would live like forever if like the thing is i don't know like i will look at a plant
and i would be like is this like the most common plant in sweden or
is it like a rare toxic plant and either no that might
be the case unless there's a blueberry but i feel
like okay or like a strawberry i would just die
i think that's not true. I don't know.
I think you would fight your way to survival, like if a bear attacked...
Yeah.
You'd look at William and be like he is pretty big and strong.
He'd be scared so he'd die.
Voxie would befriend the bear.
But William does... I feel like he doesn't do well with physical altercations.
Sure.
Every time I punch him, he's like, ouch!
Aslan does.
He'd probably throw someone into the bear's path
while he's running i i he'd already like set up a deal with three other people on
the team and like we're sacrificing aidan yeah before yeah there's not even a danger yet
he's like scheming behind everyone
he's that guy boxy is like the guy who just run off into the woods like somehow
create his own house yeah like have like these animals that
like live alongside him i could see that he is that
guy when i was eight we did learn how to make like a wind I could see that. He is that guy. Yeah.
When I was eight, we did learn how to make like a wind...
Were you scout?
Little wind.
No, that wasn't school.
Like mandatory training.
I wasn't a scout.
You made what?
A wind...?
Like a wind shelter.
Wind shelter. You take a bunch of sticks you put them on the side
you put a little tarp it means it's like dry a wind shelter i mean you don't know what this is
it's like sticks and a tarp isn't that like a house or no you just like so if you told someone
you bought a house and then showed them the pictures
no it's like yeah if it starts raining and you don't want to be wet
you build up like a little camp, you know? Yeah! Like a little wooden tent. A little wooden tent yes. Wow Sweden's crazy man.
Just the curriculum. This is wild man. Have you ever gone penguin sledding?
What is that?
Like you hop on the back of a penguin and then you go down like slides.
In Dota?
No.
Yeah.
Like what do you mean?
Like in Sweden.
With a physical penguin?
Yeah!
A real penguin?
And screaming all the time?
There's like a place in Stockholm.
No, they're really friendly.
You don't go on a-
It's like riding a horse.
Why are you turning gas light me?
But it's like a penguin.
This is insane.
Okay next time you come for Dream League
and we're knocked out on the group stage...
I'm not going to get gaslit by you
about a giant penguin slaying.
That is the stupidest thing ever.
It's not giant.
They're small.
You crushed the penguins.
A little baited penguin. No, it's fine. You don't want that little bit down there!
No, it's fine.
Have you seen the inside of a penguin's mouth?
It's like 1000 daggers!
They're friendly penguins.
If I sat on a penguin, it would definitely be grabbing at the first thing it could. But they at the dirt. They won't let you go who could initially says no
Body is not big enough to support
I'm not gonna be gaslit by this little unbelievable stupid thing
Okay, if I told your son about this would he not want to go
he's an idiot he's like three he doesn't know anything if i told him pokemon exists
you'd be like oh yeah and believes anything are we mean, that's good. Are we done?
Well, this is the last one.
Anyways, thank you guys
for watching the podcast
with Team Wicked.
No, don't cut out my own thing.
I haven't gotten
my hand signals yet.
I'm sorry.
So are you guys
going to go on
any re-out adventures?
Did you go last time? We went go-karting the first time go-karting that's I saw in the pamphlet you can go hiking hiking from like 8 to 15
during the day like a 6 hour hike you do really yeah
you would go out american eagle knows about how much i love hiking
what's that in reference to it? I didn't add once. You didn't add for American Eagle?
They needed someone to have have an interest wow you know the little players though
so joey are like content guy for liquid he's like aiden there's only one person
i believe that could pull this off.
So yeah i went hiking and nature photography
in jeans and then they're filming me while
That's cool! Did it work out?
No, I think the video has like 200 views now
and it's unlisted now.
But you got some genes.
Yeah, so it worked out.
For me it was great.
That was the best five hours of my life i mean
i keep telling nikko that we should do more outdoor stuff i like i want to go snowboarding
in the alps yeah i'm trying to get like the whole team to go sure and then they're like
what if you break i've heard of heard of Michael Schumacher? No.
Do you know who he is?
Michael Shoehofer?
Schumacher.
No.
It's a driver.
Driver.
Is he like a Formula One dude?
Yeah.
Did he like...
He went skiing and broke his arm?
He's in a coma now basically. That's dark! Okay great well thank
you guys so much I sure hope this video gets more than 200 views, and you were not in a
coma after witnessing it. Thank you, Team Liquid!
Always a pleasure! We'll see more of you guys at the
Riyadh Masters. Thanks for watching.
Hello? Hello, I'm here with Team Falcons. What are you up to? We're doing media right now today. Do you up to?
We're doing media right now today.
Do you like doing media?
Amar loves it.
I'm gonna go see Amar.
I didn't see you over there.
Hey, how's it going man?
Say that again
Hello, I'm good
Do you like media day?
Yes, I actually do
Why did he say it sarcastically, like you don't like Media Day? You answer for him.
He actually does love Media Day. Every time we don't want to do something, I'm always just there.
Okay now can you answer but say the truth?
I actually do like me this. It's a truth!
Why is it that your whole team is lying about this?
Because they must too or they're gonna get punishment for it I don't know
what I'm supposed to go don't look don't look you're ruining it I was behind you.
Hello? You ruined it by reacting to it before
I came out. Sorry... Cause you were a talent
before, so you should know to not mess up the queue.
Can I see your YouTube recommendations?
Uhh... uh
yeah keep scrolling past the ads we can't show that
what is this?
Mr. Beast on meeting Kim Kardashian
keep scrolling
uh
Mr. Ballin
wait wait
go up to the criminal thing
this no no down a little bit more
oh yeah the hunt for europe's most
wanted criminal do you watch these like
serial killer things on uh
this guy this guy is like a murder mystery guy and he's just a good storyteller.
And I guess it got recommended because of Mr. Bolin.
Is there, like, ghosts in stuff or is that real life?
Sometimes it's supernatural.
Yeah.
Do you believe in the supernatural?
Um,
I wouldn't say so.
But you still like it?
Do you kind of wish that it was real,
because it would make the world a magical mystical place?
No.
I like fantasy but I wouldn't want it to be real.
If I could bring you to the most haunted house
in Saudi Arabia, would you go?
No!
Would you be afraid?
Yes! How do you not believe
in supernatural stuff? Would you be afraid of going to the most haunted house in Saudi Arabia?
I mean, just the way you put it is the most haunted house.
It just sounds scary.
Don't want to go there.
I don't have a house for you.
I'm sorry if I was implying that but... I don't want to go there. I don't have a house for you.
I'm sorry if I was implying that, but...
Do you believe in the supernatural?
No.
Well then how is it possible
that you won two TIs
and now you're on the best team
despite being a complete fraud.
Ladies and gentlemen, this has been an interview with Team Falcons.
Thank you, gentlemen for taking the time.
I'll let you get back to hiding in the corner away from the
rest of your team and they'll be back to you cut this in you're just saying that you think
I can beat Skeeter in a planking competition. Why?
I don't know,
I don't think he gets the vibe
that he can beat you
in a plank
He's got pretty ripped abs though dude
have you seen him?
Really?
I challenge you...
Anytime, anywhere.
...to a planking competition. I didn't say what it was.
I don't care.
Okay, do you want to do a planking competition?
Sure.
How are you going to make it fair?
I'm gonna be sitting on him. You gotta make it fair, you know, Skidder, zap's not the
best.
Who is sitting on skidder then?
Five pound dumbbell.
Okay let's do a competition between men.
Somebody has got to time us.
Do your stretches.
Your flexibility seems pretty decent actually.
Yeah it is okay.
I have been training for this my whole life.
Snake King you're gonna...you can record.
Am I the coach?
You are the host now.
Oh! I have been promoted.
Kick in the floor first Snake King. host I've been promoted check the form start planking dog your ass down skater
you asked too high I guess let the games begin
all right Jenkins where am i gonna be able to sit on you sorry can't sit on
you know what's happening?
Yeah, you can sit on me.
Go ahead.
A full English breakfast, y'know
We just came from London
Are you sure you didn't have an American breakfast?
I mean,
Americanized English breakfast.
I have nothing
to put in front
of it.
This is what
I guess
when I do
to people
when I
have the
mic,
I don't
know
what
to say.
For sure
you put
them
in awkward
positions.
Once again I don't know what to say to that because in response to that like it was just in response the first thing that i
just moved the mic no i need to make you suffer i mean mean how much he may win my friend okay? This is actually a great ab workout
I really appreciate this if you could make me laugh tell me a joke
Huh see
You read there's a reason why I'm the player and you're the comedian here.
Are you sure? I've watched your position five run it looks like quite the joke!
I mean if you say so. I think many would agree.
It's just a self-deprecating thing.
If I say anything in response it's mean.
Just keep talking!
Yeah, I'm trying to... A few moments they tear he's really locked in she's very focused
tell me funny joke make him crack, let me think.
Let's see... There is a Bo Burnham one.
What do you call an ugly kid in high school?
What?
Names.
That's a Bo Burnham. it's much more offensive the actual joke.
My friends your form is getting a little worse there Jenkins what's happening?
There was a guy sitting on me who's American.
Are you sure he's American?
You're
American.
You're going to have to find my password,
my friend. You're from like New York or something.
Whoa! Why do you think I'm from New York?
You just seem like a New Yorker.
Where are you from?
I'm from China, my friend.
That's not true. You're the most American guy
I know dude
Other than Sunsfan
A few moments later
Guys The forums on maybe maybe it's time to call it or what's happening
you want a tie
okay
okay You want to tie? Let's go. OK, 3-2-1.
OK.
That's good.
I just tied with the TI winner.
That's good.
You were hurting at the end there weren't you?
Yeah it was for sure.
So that's a point we get two Dota players doing competitive things?
You should never give up.
I mean, I would keep longer but...
...I'm sure it will do something bad to me.
And you have to go obviously, you're very busy.
Oh yeah, I did for the time of strength for sure.
Right like a TI winner, people want to interview you?
You know sharing gold is good.
It's true if you double down
you'd beat me wouldn't you?
No I would choke.
You would choke because it's just too much stress?
For sure. Okay so appreciate the competition. I would choke. You'd choke because it's just too much stress?
For sure.
Okay, so appreciate the competition.
A little friendly competition.
Well done.
Thank you for being a gracious host.
It's time for double down round two no?
No!
Give me that.
Did you have coffee?
I did have coffee.
I didn't have coffee so...
Okay yeah we'll do it again
We'll do a rematch
Who's the last one to leave yeah i got you okay sounds good
yeah that's uh how i'm gonna clock out for the day i think so so so ready set go so you ever wondered how a Hollywood movie is shot?
On a Sony.
You review it on a Sony, and how do you make that sound epic?
You record it on the Sony! Shhh! You recorded? Anasone.
Lunch break, Anasona.
So why wouldn't you watch it?
Ana Bravia. I saw you.
Have you got what it takes to get to the top?
It doesn't matter how high you climb to reach the top even the biggest champ needs a break
so you can recharge dive back in and dominate.
Have a break, Have a Kit Kat.
.
. so so.. so so so so so so so so We've had nearly three weeks of incredible Dota 2 here at RIA Masters and today we find out which team will take the title.
We have a lot of matches leading into this moment in the the first week, we had the play-in stage.
Lots of games but ultimately two teams got eliminated
and immediately afterwards we started the group stage
which resulted in four teams being gone.
Gaming gladiators have swiftly ascended throughout this tournament to the grand finals
they're looking like they're in top form will they quit at all but they need an opponent
in the grand finals both of these or bracket teams are angry
both have entered into phase two who's gonna make it to the grand finals team liquid and
no doubt wanting revenge from gaming gladi, hunting for their first win since 2020.
Or will Team Falcons continue their lower bracket run in front of the home crowd? Because nothing is granted, everything is earned.
And by the end of today one of these three teams will be immortalized in esports world cup history
let's get this final day of riyadh masters 2024 underway so so so so so so so Good morning!
We're into our very last day of Riyadh Masters here at East Horts World Cup.
Let me introduce my lovely, gorgeous panel to you guys standing right beside me.
Jenkins!
Hello!
That was so grand!
Hello!
I'm back.
It's here. It's the Grand Finals day.
That's enough from you.
Lacoste and Effie though?
It's great to work with you guys.
Oh absolutely.
I mean really happy to be here.
Grand finals of course day there is going
to be a lot of good Dota VO three into
five one team is going to be playing potentially eight games very excited
to see every series going full distance. Yeah and the whole tournament was
building up to this today is when we get to finally crown the victor
and I think a lot of the teams have a lot
fans who want them to get that first place, but
We have our own biases.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
We're fully unbiased.
Let's pick our winners right now.
Who's winning? Wait, wait, wait.
I do want you guys to do that.
I definitely do.
But I wanna take a larger look
at the Esports World Cup as a whole because
even though it's our last day, it's taken
three weeks for us to get here. There are
also two other game titles going on. We've got
PUBG Mobile that started a couple days ago
their final is today.
CS2 also started about four days ago as well,
so they're definitely on a speedier timeline for their tournament,
but it doesn't mean it's any less.
There's still a lot of points on the line for all
these clubs that are participating
across multiple titles.
I know for a fact that Falcons are both here in Dota
as well as PUBG Mobile.
That is right, Natty.
In fact, the
three teams that we have remaining
in Dota 2 are all
in contention for lots of these
Club Award points. Yeah.
And I've heard the hubbub around
the streets the club awards matter a lot it's hard to run an esports
company it's very different from a normal
business and the potential of earning some extra money getting some extra fame accolades all of
this stuff is very important for these teams yeah falcons yeah has a lot of points.
They have so many.
You know what the Falcons don't have?
They have a lot of teams this year that's been working out
so far for them, and EWC is going to continue
for another month.
I also think they picked up another team,
so Team Falcon strategy working out so far.
Well look some people might be tuning in for the first time and
don't really understand this club championship that we're talking about
so here's a little video to give you guys all the information that you need.
The game starts you guys all the information you need
introducing the club championship here's how it works each club will have
the opportunity to field its rosters across
multiple titles.
The clubs finishing in the top eight across each of the 21 titles
will receive points based on their placement
for a chance to qualify for the club championship
A club needs to place in the top eight
in at least two competitions.
For a chance to win,
a club must finish first
in at least one competition.
Once the tournament has concluded
the top 16 clubs will take a share
of $20 million prize pool with the first place team claiming
the title of the first ever Esports World Cup Club Champion
as well as receiving a staggering $7 million
in prize money.
For us to talk about
the club championship a little bit more
we do have just Tonya here, one of the co-founders
of Gaming Gladiators. Go for itenshin it's so great to have you
in there it's so great absolutely pleasure okay all right well let's talk about how well uh you
know gaming gladiators just not yeah ignore the rankings but they're doing
great here in dota yeah we are we uh we picked up 20 points in free fire previously so we are on
there somewhere just uh not towards the top just yet. That's right,
that's why you have
620,
right?
That's the 20.
Well yeah,
that's the 20
so after today
1,020
very easy.
Alright,
oh he's got
the confidence
I mean let's talk
about EWC,
the Esports World Cup.
You know,
how long have you been here for?
How long are you going to stay here
to cheer on the team?
So I've been here now
for just over a week.
I'm going to be here
for another five days after that I fly out but I'm going be here for another five days after that.
I fly out, but I'm going to be replaced by my three other co-founders.
We're invested all the way through.
We have teams all the way through to last week.
Oh my goodness!
We've got PUBG PC and Rocket League on the last week so it it's going to be intense, I'm gonna be sat at home stressing
I feel for my wife and kids.
They're gonna have to like hear all of it.
I mean you guys are stressing because you obviously want your players
to do well but how much does getting up there and maybe even the top three for
club championship mean for you i mean yeah it's it's vital for both like describe the ecosystem
it's very difficult right now for esports orgs to support themselves just off base sponsorships alone.
So the money's always helpful, but then it's the glory that you're chasing more than anything else.
So we're definitely looking to get up to the top and maybe clip some wings on Team Falcons.
Oh, I like that one.
All right.
I got a question.
I already asked you this off camera, but I want to explain for
the audience what is your process
for scouting teams?
Because for Falcons
it seems like their
process is
buy the best team.
You guys seem to do
this thing where you
buy an up and coming
tier 2 team.
How do you rank
a team where it's like, this team is worth getting?
We have quite possibly
some of the best scouts in the industry
amongst Alex, Nick and Sean who
are the other three co-founders
and also our chief Alex, Nick and Sean who are the other three co-founders
And also our Chief of Staff Joe Oram
He's really good at scouting out Battle Royale teams
So we put together a lot of analytics
We've put together a lot of data for where teams
Are up and coming from, regions that are successful.
But not just that but regions that are undervalued so for instance we are one of the only organizations to have an APAC Rocket League team.
It's not a place where a lot...
Let's go APAC! That place where... Let's go, APAC!
That's my region, let's go!
There's not a lot of
Rocket League players out there
but it guarantees us
a major
it guarantees us
world championships
and now it guarantees
us EWC
where the team can
make a difference and take out some of
the OCE, SSA and potentially even an EU team if they try hard enough.
Which teams do you have that will actually win?
Like which teams are to get your points?
So we did a very sort of overall base
if we have two teams that we think
are number one in the world
in their craft,
that is Dota and Fortnite.
Our Fortnite roster hasn't dropped a single game
across the past three months
with 3-0 Falcons every time, so no concerns
there. But then all
the Battle Royale games with the element
of RNG... You, you know, what are
you going to draw up if
everyone's gonna drop on top
of you? Exactly so our Apex
Legends PUBG both of those
teams look very exciting and
very good pickups for us
And then I think Overwatch,
we have a strong chance there as well.
Yeah, that's next week as well.
So yeah, you guys are definitely consistent throughout EWC
and look Joe,
I wish that we could have you on for longer unfortunately
though we're going to get this day going. I mean, I'm sure you could have you on for longer. Unfortunately though,
we've got to get this day going.
I mean,
I'm sure you're excited to get to the grand finals as well.
Yeah,
a little bit anxious
but I want to know who we face.
I think that's the key.
Yeah,
do you want to put
a quick prediction out there?
Team Liquid are going
to take Falcons and then we're
gonna repeat last year okay i can understand that all right yeah like you
you think you're going for the easy well joe thank you so much for joining us it's
been a pleasure here but let's jump on into
the doter a little bit more we've got gaming gladiators
already guaranteed into the grand finals for themselves after a very swift 2-0 against team
liquid yesterday bond burner in a sarcastic tone
is how I describe it, Jenkins?
Yeah, that was honestly
one of the most brutal matches
at Dota
that I've seen
and a long time
they got completely obliterated.
That was a Gaben level slacking,
maybe even a Gabens top hat
level slacking which hasn't been awarded
speaking of awards in
very long time.
Blitz said they got cheesed
there is that last pick dazzle
that came out
and completely dumpstered mid from Quinn,
but then what explains game one?
Yeah I was about to ask the same question
because second game it was a 24th pick Dazzle.
Ember we've seen this hero have a lot of you know high win rate in
this tournament so far but this is the hero that has a lot of counters in the lane especially if
you pick it early in the draft and then's something that they did exploit when they played
against steam liquid so coming into this one uh i think team falcons they are having this lower
bracket run you know had a pretty stressful series yesterday against psg quest run, you know. Had a pretty stressful series yesterday against PSG
Quest. It was very high
chances of them losing that one
but they managed to get their stuff
together and they won and then they won
against Tundra as well. Yeah I uh both the teams that we're seeing in
our lower bracket team liquid and falcons both had quick two o's just one more favorable than
the other fe yeah um i think team liquid today is a team that I do want to root for, but after...
I don't know if they're cut out for winning versus Falcons today because
They got a little bit exposed in their series yesterday
Versus Gaiman.
I think where it seems like they're only going
to play three carries.
And like, they lost picked razor into an unfavorable game.
So I'm hoping that overnight completely shifted their draft ideas.
Oh God, you know like to do the social media
stalk every now and then see what the players the coaches are doing in that time i know they've been
staying up late trying to draw after and prep on this side of liquid so there's a fine balance
i feel but either way i still want to relive some
of the moments yesterday so let's have a look at our aramco top five plays of yesterday This matchup is going to go. Go through the gate, but it was his only way out I suppose.
Foxy didn't die, but he can get his body blocked up a little bit
and he's gonna need a big inhale from Foxy to survive
through this situation which is not going to happen.
Foxy still lingering trying to go for Karachi with seven situation I'm telling you that was shit for smoke up one very much
the quality of it is if we drop down to a box because they're
ever kill off a bar as well double-kill but ta 2000 speeder he has got go to the bkbtp out he'll manage
to make it away they've used two buybacks though for
this fight but carrying a snakey flying back
to try and get the action going back in their favor but it's not gonna happen to sign a link with 33. he pops what's going on trying to stay alive he's hitting him he's hitting up the child is eventually going to come out is the fight, which is like we've got more odd-nip thingy.
We're probably...
We're through the trees
getting information.
He keeps jumping alongside of Maul.
See if the proper war is going to go on
at the camp now. gets blown up right away.
Skeeters does not last long, he tries to get off Vantac'a Manta but cannot get out of the Rukon's command!
It's too much for him. So yeah they stop the basic choice we're getting
off a time zone but they've lost their carry from our in-ball reader is to the back of
Thanks to Aramco, we got to relive those top five of plays yesterday a lot of highlighted moments but i'm more interested in how exactly the players reacted themselves so
we've got our pepsi top reactions here i'm going to keep an eye on our players look
guys there's always the varying people popping off but also kind of this is sadness of losing
a disappointment yeah i mean yesterday is a brutal day right you're so close to that grand finals say
it's the very very last stretch you can feel your victory we can feel the amount of money
you take the glory getting there unfortunately not every team will make it.
Sometimes they're just a cut above the rest, right?
When they're in these high-pressure situations,
when they can get emotional like they are right now,
for veterans, we'll kind of just stand above the rest which is what we saw with Quest
versus Falcons for example. I mean Quest they almost did it but at that very end
the nerves got home. Yeah I think that's the difference
between making it to that top four
and having to face up against Tundra
And also the difference
between the momentum of Falcons getting
to play twice in one day, Jenkins? That Tundra
weren't ready to pace it up. They weren't
and I think part of that is because Falcons
talking about reactions
they actually didn't react
like they were happy from beating quest yeah
They were angry, they thought it was too close for how good they-
For what their expectations are
And you could feel the fury in the Tungsten.
They were angry.
And after the game, Team Falcons on camera
they were kind of arguing what needed to be done
because they weren't happy with the outcome
even though they did win
cause they had like 99% chance total play they were not happy with the outcome, even though they did win.
Because they had like 99% chance total plus
of winning that game but it was a stretch
and it's very stressful game.
Yeah yesterday,
The way that all played out is we saw PSG Quest. They fell in
fifth-sixth position and then when we went to that upper bracket to see who would make
it to the grand finals, we got to end the day with another key crushing. So this one
right here is Skidder doing uh the crushing of psg quest
key but also later on it was the snaking crushing uh tundra's cake and that one we
said was the crispest keep chris crispy's chris crisper river he crushed yeah of the century now there
he is which team has the most kia crushes so far they're still in the tournament yeah it's
fun but even before I was thinking everybody time they go each week yes
they have three yes I mean thank could be team when we have two
they eliminated the entity and wbg sorry oh yeah you're right you're
right
they could get another potential key crush here and then you want to
crush as many keys as he can not to get
that 1 million 500 thousand
dollars. That's a lot of it. A five
million prize pool. We always talk about
the weight of one best ofof-three, making it
not only higher up there in positions, getting
from fifth six to top four to top
three to top two and one but
there's a big difference in prize pool as well
Jenkins when you make it up that ladder.
It's a lot of money per series. I do like that it is more evenly
distributed but also in terms of sustainability
for these esports orgs doing
well in this tournament and having that number associated with your name is very important for next year.
Yeah, look to make such a fantastic show to give all of the information it's not just us here on the panel
It's also some people roaming around purge specifically
so let's see exactly where he ended up with himself this morning
thanks guys i'm in the jameel motorsport arena right now and i'm just thinking about
the best match of the day. And you might think
oh, the finals is the match to watch. It is
it's good, but GameGladiators
kind of scare me. They play really fast
so I think the match of the day
just might be the lower bracket finals
and that is where we get
to see who has to unfortunately
play against Gaming Gladiators.
It's definitely
not big enough. So,
is it going to be
Team Liquid or is it gonna be, it's going to be Team Liquid or is it
gonna be the Falcons? Define haters expectations after having a rough group
stage and then immediately getting knocked to the lower bracket. Are
they going to be able to win? That's why I think it is the Jubiland Motorsport match
of the day, so I can't wait to see what happens there and hopefully they level up enough in
that series that they go to the finals and take some games off gaming gladiators
because they looked unstoppable yesterday anyways let's see what happens I'm going to go with the game of the dead series.
How can you not pick
the grand finals?
Is he insane?
He doesn't know who's
going, maybe he's going to be.
Maybe he thinks
that it's gonna be
Team Liquid
going up against
Damon Gladius
and it's the Swift 3-0
again, you know?
This man's trying
to hedge his bets
but at least
there'll be a bit
of a back and forth
in that lower bracket that will be starting at 2K30 the bottom of the bracket. So I think that's a good start for us to see if we can
get some head, he's been said
at least there'll be a bit of
it back and forth in that
lower bracket that will be
starting at 2 p.m. So in about
approximately 20 ish minutes
with Matt, you know, the
lower entrance because the lower bracket finals and most grand finals
that I've watched the last couple of years
has always been more exciting
than the grand final sometimes.
I don't think this will be the case this time
cause you look at the quality
of Team Liquid versus Team Volcan,
The Grand Finals are gonna be an absolute banger. But the lower bracket
finals will be too.
We just put our cards on the table here and we'll make
a prediction? Wait, wait. I want to give you one piece of information
before you do that, okay? Do you know how
many tournaments this year have had the lower bracket winner come up and take the finals?
I'd say three of them.
All but one!
All but one?!
All but one!
Yep, Bibi GDatchup was the only
one where the upper bracket
team won and every other
tournament we've had is
the lower bracket winner.
Well, my prediction
was that these guys
were going to
you know, no offense to Team Liquid
but I think that's gonna be a quick 2-0
But I think Gaiman versus
Falcons. I think they're both
at a peak right now. I agree, I think that's going to be
a five game series,
at least four.
At least five!
At least five!
We can get more than five but yet
when the way they started this tournament, Team Falcon 0 and 4.
They were my favorites to win the whole thing
And seeing them power up through this lower bracket
I think i'm gonna stick with them
Winning this 1 one 2-0
and then be in the grand finals against the game gladiators.
Wouldn't count out Liquid though, Jenkins saying they're going to get 2-0.
And him, he also said it.
Throw both of us under the bus at the same time
falcons are extremely good and they're terrifying to play against but liquid
have had an incredible run this tournament and just because
they had one bad series it doesn't mean that they spent
the entire night correcting for those
errors.
I think if they bring the same drafts they did yesterday, they will lose.
But if they've worked on their drafting and their ideas overnight specifically versus
the zoo creeps coming from Physicians 5,
they'll be chilling enough.
Yeah I mean we've seen it time and time again
that the losses in tournaments are actually what gives teams
momentum so I'm totally with you Effie
that upper bracket could have been the wake up call
that Team Liquid needs but let's see exactly where So I'm totally with you Effie, that upper bracket could have been the wake up call
That Team Liquid needs but let's see exactly where their thoughts are
For their lower bracket matchup as we've got Purge and 33
Name here with 3-3 of Team Liquid
You guys had a tough loss yesterday, how are you feeling right now?
I feel okay. Obviously it's rough losing like that
but sometimes it just happens and the way I look at it is when
you lose to gladiators,
like you always lose in 15 minutes.
So if you don't lose in 15 minutes
you're probably going to win.
Getting stomped by gladiators in 15 minutes
is equal to losing to spirits in 50 minutes.
It's just another loss.
It's like you lost a coin flip and you're like, oh well I lost the coin flip!
Yeah so it looks really bad but in reality this is like the strat
So if the strat works
they will win
really,
really convincingly.
So yeah,
obviously we fucked up
we should have done
a lot better
but
we don't feel
crushed
like holy shit
we had no chance.
That's great
I was worried
for you guys
in terms of your prep last night after a lot did you focus we have no chance. That's great, I was worried for you guys.
In terms of your prep last night after the loss
did you focus on that series or
did you just instantly pivot and say like
we gotta beat either Falcons or Tundra?
We pretty much said
we should kinda forget forget about the game
against Gladiators. Obviously, we came into it with a bit
wrong ideas and
we lost early game
both games in the lanes super
bad so to be honest, it was hard even to tell
like maybe our ideas were not that bad
we just fucked up their lanes
probably a combination of both
but we knew that Tandora and Falcons
are very different teams
so we just kind of said
let's forget about it because you know if we play them
again we'll come into it with a different approach but uh yeah for now we just wanted to prepare for
okay and how confident are you guys
feeling against falcons you've gotten to see tons of their matches they've had a
lot of almost elimination series i feel like you
can collect all their secrets so do you feel confident yeah we feel
uh confident obviously the good team but now the weakest they've looked all year pretty much
They look pretty invincible at times
But now they just look like another strong team
That can win,
they can lose like nothing special.
All right great well good luck in your match
and I hope you guys do well.
Yeah thank you.
The weakest they've looked all year is what 33 just said.
He is not worried at all about the form and the ramp-up of Falcons in this lower bracket.
He has, I'm not going to say confidence through the roof
because we've seen obviously people come into series
a little bit more confident than that.
But they like that they're able to reset, refocus
and really truly believe
that they are gonna be able to take this one from Falcons.
And that's what we usually see from Team Falcons,
I would say right now
at Riyadh Masters
they have a pretty low
64% win rate overall.
Maybe that's why
33 is talking about
them being beatable
also making
the slower bracket run.
They showed that they can bleed.
They're also one of the few teams
that don't utilize this position 5 spin.
This is how meta kind of developed.
They're not playing these cheesy strats
and they are not
playing, I would say as fast as Gaming Gladiators
and the Steam Liquid because Steam Liquid showed
so far in the tournament
in the upper bracket matches that they can play
some really fast-paced D, but they got shut down
completely by Gaiman and I think they
need to go back to their own tempo. They need
to be the ones dictating the tempo of the game.
The thing about Liquid though is that
yesterday they lost to Gaiman's Chen and then they lost to game and Ken and then I
lost to their in turn Chris another two heroes at Falcons also play beautifully
you cannot underestimate snaking on these years but they just did not have
an answer so if they also play see free which
gamer loves to run the Chen plus
the CK and I really think that Falcons
could replicate how Gaiman beat them
yesterday today if they watch live.
They have very shared heroes so
I am actually more concerned for Liquid here
than for Falcons.
Yeah, I would agree with that as well because even though
we talk about those cheese like the Sven
5 that you just mentioned, Lacoste
We now know that Falcons have answers to it so if you
have an answer, you don't necessarily need to pick it up for yourself but hey
I'm no expert on this team and what they want a draft but Purge was able
to catch up with their expert, their coach Aoui but that coach Ali.
Hey, AUI. Can I grab you quick for the interview?
Thanks for joining me. So we spoke yesterday after the game two draft and you said that you had to walk away during
the draft to use the restroom so I want to ask you about that because…
You asked the on camera.
I'm not gonna ask about the details
I just wanna know what are the strategy implications
cause I think it's interesting
how many picks and bans did you miss?
Uh, I think I missed sort of 14-15, and I came back
and said we should pick Phoenix.
Do you feel like that was correct what you said at the time about
the Phoenix even though you guys still won? Yeah, I think
the Phoenix pick was really good that game because
we needed damage to go through Chen.
So we're like sort of
worried with Snapfire but
I think sometimes your draft just needs something.
It doesn't really matter if the enemy has an on-paper counter.
So do you think Phoenix is one of the heroes that breaks these aura heroes
because of percentage based damage or is it something else?
I'm not sure.
It depends on the aura hero because it's not just auras
If you have Chen give Aura but the hero doesn't necessarily give you team fight
But if you're like a Brewmaster Aura then you have teamfight and Aura so there is like a balance
I don't know, Auras are strong right now and you have teamfighting auras, so there's like a balance.
I don't know, auras are strong right now So you need to try a lot of different things
at both different angles in order to beat this
Yeah, you guys have a lot of momentum right now
After winning lower bracket finals
You were playing against Liquid who just got pretty
smashed 2-0 so do you feel like you're just extra confident considering the momentum? I mean i don't
know what the momentum affects us that much.
But I think we're pretty confident going into this match anyways.
And if you guys do win this match, how do you think you'll match up against Gladiators?
Honestly, I think pretty well.
In DreamLeague we lost to of them and now for Malkin
we won the finals or something so
I think we'll like
will be confident no matter what
opponent we're facing this tournament
but you know
Gladden is
they said a 2-0 to us
2-1 to us this tournament
So They've been better and you know
Hopefully we can learn from what our series wisdom. All right great. Thank you for joining me good luck in your match. Thank you
Pudge doing the double whammy there, talking about Liquid and a game
And trying to maybe hype up some of the Falcons fans
To be like hey you know if you guys do get that what exactly is going to happen
But Liquid right now is standing in their way
Look cause it's as simple and easy as what Ali said about balancing
the auras and how you draft.
This man is a man of mystery.
He does not want to reveal any of
the strategies coming into BO3,
BO5, so he's going to lie on camera which is fine
totally from his point of view but
these auras they are super strong
I think some of these heroes
are going to be highly contested we did mention the Sven
plus the Pipe from the offlane,
which is undispellable.
That's the big thing that you don't have a real counterplay to it.
I think this is where maybe some pure damage
is going to come into play.
Timbersaw.
There it is or percentage-based
damage, the Phoenix that he mentioned, some of
these Underlords as well, something
that can't go through all this tankiness that you're
bringing to the table with all these auras.
He definitely lied a little bit. I don't think Phoenix does damage through pipe.
Where exactly did he lie?
Because Phoenix is not damaged through Chen, it isn't damaged through pipe but actually
he did not lie about the concept of picking a hero that gives you team fight because
Chen doesn't have teamfight.
I thought that was very cool conceptually actually. of picking a hero that gives you team fight because Chen doesn't have team fight.
I thought that was very cool conceptually, actually.
I think that's one way to win.
I really like the pure damage angle.
I feel like the pipes and nexus stuff are way too strong
and you literally just need to
carve through it that's that's the only
way to do it
i'm you know we talk about this team
still the pure damage
i'm also curious when we do uh
essentially get there is about their
off-laners but before we even look at a
draft, before we even do anything else with this series
We want to know exactly how these teams are walking out where the confidence
is. We've got Falcons up against Team Liquid in our lower bracket finals.
The winner is going to be going on to the grand finals, but first of all
let's head down and down to Kadiyah Arena and welcome our teams! so so so so It is time to get the final day of Rion Masters underway.
It has been a brutal gauntlet for these teams, four days of plans, five days of groups and now on this the sixth day of playoffs three teams
remain lower bracket final match is going to be happening on this stage in Gidea Arena.
Gaming Gladiators Team Liquid and Team Falcons are all here
and they're very close, one step away from earning that trophy.
And also one step away to earn that trophy. And also one step
from elimination as Team Liquid
had cruised through much of the upper bracket
enjoying their time
but get knocked down by Game and Gladiators
in a very quick 2-0 fashion and falcons meanwhile seems like they are rising
to the challenge as they get their victories against quest last night. Meanwhile team liquid
they had a long run in the upper bracket.
They were able to knock down every single team but then Gaming Gladiators were able
to stop them in one of their quickest matches that we've had so far in Real Masters.
But now they have to cross one step
either to elimination or to the grand final.
It has been a long journey for all of these teams.
It's not all about skill,
but it's about stamina and endurance
And the fact that they can endure all of that
while still presenting at the best Dota possible
So Fancy...
Why not bring him out?
Let's bring him out
This match ladies and gentlemen is worth $200 million why not bring him out let's bring them out this match
ladies and gentlemen is worth 200 000 dollars for both teams
on around 250 points in the esportport World Cup Club Championship.
And for the first team that's walking on stage,
it is Team Liquid!
Make it!. ready to face Team Falcons after losing against Gaming Gladiators. We just heard 3-3 talk about how ready they are for this match.
Team Falcons might not be an easy opponent but it's the last step for them
to get
to the grand final
and they're making a another appearance in an elimination series please welcome
team falcons Please welcome Team Falcons!
Skinner, Maulreen, ATF, Crit and Snaking
maybe enjoying the lower bracket run
more than they thought they would.
I saw the grin on Snaking's face as he
crushed Tundra's Key last night
and then maybe he might get that opportunity to do it again He got the Wanderer's Key last night,
and maybe he might get that opportunity to do it again
to Liquid.
Teams! Take your seats and place your keys.
Only three keys remain in this entire tournament.
By the end of this match, only two will remain.
Let's see which one is going to survive. so so so Team Liquid and team Falcons.
These teams have placed off against each other multiple times
already this year. The head-to-head
record does favor Falcons, but
Jenkins, would you favor Falcons
in this low bracket best of three?
I said that I would favor Falcons.
But I do think
this is a liquid
which has ascended
through this tournament
they have ascended
through this year
finally 33 seems to be
fitting in
and this is one
of the most malleable teams
and the history of Dota you count them out,
they come back with a punch for cost.
Okay.
They do.
They really do, but if you need
to calm down, we didn't start yet.
Uh, team like that. If we exclude the last series that they played to calm down, because we didn't start yet. Team Liquid,
if we exclude
the last series
that they played
against Gaming Gladiators
and that didn't happen,
I think we'll be saying
high praises about
the team.
It's something
that does happen
sometimes you lose
but we talked a lot about how fast can you get up after you have this devastating loss?
How fast will be able to adapt in the situation?
And I think Team Liquid showed throughout the year
That they are able to adapt to these problems
that are being thrown at them.
I feel like you can go two ways.
You need to look at the year as a whole,
or you can do recency bias.
The fact that Team Liquid had a rough day yesterday,
the momentum of the lower bracket for team Falcons.
But either way make sure you guys let us know your prediction
head on over to STCPlay.gg
We want to hear it exactly any other advice
Effie would give for those wanting to put in a prediction.
You know, I think that you guys should not take what I...
No listen to us! Just follow your heart because both of these teams are going to play some bang and dodo. The heart is
never wrong, Effie.
So right.
But either way
our lower bracket finals
the two teams coming into it, only one will survive
game 1 draft coming up on our
screens. Excited to see how the
meta has shifted all the way from day
1 of playoffs 3 weeks ago
to here in our second last series that we will get at
riyadh masters but also specifically between these two
teams because in riad masters alone here esports world cup
these teams have not gone up against each other they haven't faced off against each other on this patch, 7.36c
So there is a lot of unknown quantities coming into this one
Yeah that is interesting
I mean that means we could have a very decisive game one.
But the thing is,
I trust both of these teams.
They are world-class caliber to...
I mean, they're three's for a reason.
Yeah, these are two
teams that can easily
adjust on game two so
even if game one goes
a certain way because
of the matchup that we
haven't seen like you
mentioned and these
unknown things, I would
trust it if it can still
go all three games.
I do wonder though because Falcons had to have watched the series yesterday,
Liquid played versus Gaiman,
and I have to re-emphasize that they lost to Chen
and then they lost to Enchantress on Team Liquid. Falcons are no
stranger to these two heroes, and
they should be looking to run it themselves
after what happened. The big surprise
for me in the draft is Falcons banning
out Brewmaster as their first ban against team liquid who didn't play
brewmaster in a whole week and we did not see them succeed yet with that hero they're sitting
at the zero and three so far we've seen different items coming out from the brewmaster we instead of you
know rushing that radian so you're kind of not gonna say useless but if you're getting
ganked once or twice that also means that Median's timing will be delayed.
So Spirit Vessel, we've seen Pype,
we've see Mek's coming out from Brewmaster
which I think is the correct choice in current meta.
I think that's why though,
that's why they ban it
because this is still a 3-3 specialty hero and now that Gaiman have successfully shown that the most
successful
Brew item build literally just is Greaves, Ppe, Crimson Guard, etc.
They should have no problem replicating that on Team Liquid
I agree, I think that's exactly what this is to me and
I think this is a pretty 5 head ban from Falcons
Like the fact they trust that Liquid can lose
to something, go back into those replays
Digest it
Understand it
And then
Pick it up and play it
In the very next day
Like that's just
It's 5-head
They're not gonna lose
To this Brewmaster
Which they haven't picked in a week
It's expected Well I actually Thought that They're not going to lose to this Birdmaster, which they haven't picked in a week.
It's expected.
Well, I actually thought that we might have seen a Beastmaster ban in that first phase
for Falcons because Team Liquid loved to pick it up
but yesterday they got their hands
on it and didn't have the impact everyone expected. So
it does feel like a lot of mind games are going
on just within those first bands of
what have they learned of this series
yesterday for both these teams and what
going forward because Monkey King was answered in the previous series by
falcons but that was with the weaver so a great fan of the team liquid to have that weaver taken
out and directly into uh the monkey king but unfortunately leaving the Sand King in the pool.
Yeah I think that Beastmaster is not going to come out until we see Team Liquid ban
that Enchantress on the first phase because that's a very easy answer
to that hero that game did yesterday but this monkey king it's pro it's the most
contested here of the tournament even more than tiny it can be flexed to multiple roles
but you also pick it preemptively when you leave Sand
King in the pool.
Because this is a hero that can follow Sand King to the mid lane and it can follow Sand
King to the offlane as a carry.
And it's one of those melee heroes where san king excels versus
melee heroes but monkey king doesn't operate in the same way because he
punishes melee offliners yeah this sanking he's pretty much been
the hero of the tournament we've seen other teams try to
beat it, and I'm going through some
of their games that they played against Sanking.
This is why Team Lickford left
in the pool. They did manage to beat
it four out of five times last games where they played.
If you remember the Team Spirit series, Tiny was highly contested.
That's why they banned it out mid-matchup is that good.
But also have Monkey King on their side, which is a flexible pick
can be flexed across three different
roles so you're not revealing anything yet
and something that you talked about
these Enchantresses
So not a single offlaner band against team falcons which is something that the
teamwork coming into this series did quite a lot of prep because a lot of times you'll see them
heavily focusing on amar and banning some of these strong position fours for crit.
I think this could be the bane of Team Liquid,
I mean, this is way too early to say it
but I think that double Chen enchanter spans
really could ruin them if they win this series and go into the next one
i feel like at some point maybe it'll work in this tournament but at some point they have to
start playing these heroes themselves i agree too early to say that, though.
Yeah, there's a lot of 5-hat stuff going on here, in my opinion.
Like, I think the way that Liquid got knocked down into the lower bracket. Part of it is
the fact that Gaiman
proved that they understand how to play against
the Tiny. They left the Tiny in the pool. I can't remember
what team they were playing against, but maybe it was
BB Team.
And they picked the Chen, they picked what team they're playing against. Maybe it was BB Team. And
they picked the Chen, they picked the TA mid
to counter the Tiny.
So one of the stories of this tournament
is teams letting
the OP hero of the tournament through and then countering it.
And so in my eyes, this is what Liquid is doing by picking the Monkey King
and letting the Sand King through.
It's like the two heroes that seem really imba at least on the mid lane
are the Sand King and the Tiny.
Tiny's already been answered.
Sand King, maybe not so much.
So maybe they're just doing this
so the draft is predictable
so they know they're up against a Sand King
because I think they can counter it.
Yeah, I think what Lacoste says
you have to factor into count
so you have to pick your poison when it comes to teams like Falcons
but Liquid has a very high success rate versus Sand King
Lacoste mentioned that four out of five last games
So they beat four Sand Kings? Four out of five last games. So they beat
four Sand Kings successfully.
They have to have confidence
in their strategies.
They did run something
like an Io plus Flesh Rock
versus Sand King
that looked pretty cool.
I think you can also
run Ember Spirit
versus Sand King with Mage Slayer.
That's potentially something that we could do.
But then, you've got to be careful of the Flex and the Sazzle going mid
and destroying the Ember Spirit.
Monkey if he is gonna be playing from the mid lane
He's also a Mage Slayer buyer even from the mid lane he's also a mage slayer buyer even from
the safe lane this is something that boxy we gotta give
him credit because nine class wanted to steal his spotlight
play his morphing position 4, which Boxy theorycrafted himself.
He had a dream.
I don't know if he had a dream,
but to focus on more,
this is a flex pick again
and we've seen quite a lot of Rubicks
plus Morphlings on the same team when there is a sinking available
so you basically become as strong as like you have two sankings pretty much in the theme
i mean rubik could be very tempting too versus jokiro and sen can get an impale
on an ice bath then your morphling could cover that to you if you're just gonna
run for more flame maybe if they pick rubic here though
they'll be doubling down a little bit too much
on the concept of stealing the Burrow String.
I do want to talk about the Chikiro for a second.
I-I do like this pick against the Monkey King
because I feel like this makes it so that Falcons
can flex the Sand King to offlane, and Crit has been playing some J'Kyro.
And I think J'Kyro does extremely well against Monkey King in lane because she has the attack speed slow,
Monkey needs to hit you four times in order to meet a strong hero.
So this gives Falcons the option
to flex the Sand King too offlane
It's not much of an Amar Hero
like we're used to seeing him on the Slarks
and Timbersaws but I'm sure he can do it if it's necessary.
You always have to have that in the back of your mind
If you're liquid.
Oh!
It's coming out.
All right.
Okay, that's gotta be a four more fling now.
You got to shift this thing right now.
Also, here's the issue
Monkey King core suffers
versus AA too because he gets
all of his sustenance through his Jingu
and that gets countered by Ice Blast too. Like both the
Morphling plus Monkey King Flexes
to core are countered by AA
And not only that, this Gyro himself
is countered by AA, so you're protecting
him here too. This is a really beautiful draft by Hawkins.
They picked the Gyro, so
Team Liquid wants to run the Morph as a carry
because you turn into the Gyro, steal the Flak
and become a better version of Gyro. It's a counter.
But you can't run the Mor morph as a carry because there's an
aa which counters the morphing when he's played in the carry position but then
like you said you don't want to run the monkey king as a carry either this is
a very good pick from falcons i was thinking about aa
as a counter to the like pipe mech meta in general.
I'm surprised to see it only come out here in the Lord Rekka finals.
It's the first AA pick of the tournament, Considering how much healing we have, how
tanky heroes are, I'm a little surprised
that somebody didn't try to
pick it earlier.
I do want to interrupt you guys for
a quick moment because we've got something special here in our draft is is perch and the moon meander
Hey, thanks. We are here watching the draft
I'm sitting with Moon moon yet suspended because of the ench and Chen bans that Falcons would ban Beastmaster but Liquid got it anyways. What's up with that?
Liquid is very reliant on this patch with Auras and 33 Beastmasters is his best hero to build Aurus on because he accelerates
the game with this drop in Aghanim's timing every game.
Is AA a good solution against that though? I think you've got some anti-healing, it makes
him less tanky, it's good against the Morphling, even if
it's a support.
Yes AA is really good this patch uh
that's just the strategy Falcons did
against us in the scrim they were trying
to AA against Morphing 4
The reason why morphing four is really
strong because he has unlimited sustain in lane
He can just try to energy morph all the way back
and then shrink morphe back to full
However, AA in lane you gotta be careful
Because of level 2
He has this Ice V that can just instantly kill
you if you're like caught like edgy morphing gotcha no who do you think is winning the draft so far
i think falcons is winning the draft so far because
Falcon's teamfight is insane into Team Liquid's timing push lineup.
Not only do they have all, they read the Beastmaster
They pre-picked a Gyaracopter which is a good laning against the Beastmaster already and they picked Beastmaster into it anyway.
And if the AA against the Morph so this Morphling won't be tanky
and he can only buy the Guardian Greaves that he wants to buy because of the AA.
Alright great well we'll send it back to the panel, Matt and the others.
Fantastic!
Fantastic insight there
from Moon. So lucky
to have Coach standing by with him.
I love this preemptiveness, exactly why the AA was coming out because despite having a 52% win
rate as a support in high-end pubs first time uncontested before this one so we've got some
reason and we've got some reason we've got some
insight and also a little bit more into the build that you want to do
in that lane against them all yeah it's uh
it's an interesting thing i mean i remember at the start of this tournament
there was not a lot of Sven 5 being picked
even though it's the most picked support in pubs.
So sometimes there is a difference between 8k MMR plus pubs
which are pretty much pro level pubs and competitive.
And then the hero eventually comes out,
it's kind of like okay well yeah that makes sense
everybody's playing against it on a daily basis
so they understand it
And the Slork comes out as a ban
this is something that Amar does play, he
did play it when they were playing against
Thundra the same matchup against the Monkey King
I believe he died pretty much
He died for the first blood but still
managed to carry the game very annoying and they wouldn't have enough
aoe to deal with them so that's a really good ban you need some added front line now for falcons
they bound up the mars which would have anchored their fight very well. I mean other options for Falcons could be Tidehunter or Centaur
just you know a hero to start the fight
be a big body for you
and give a lot of follow-up damage coming out of Shakira
on AA and your Jyro. Pango comes out here for
Team Liquid. This hero
still very popular, still run
amongst the three teams left in this
tournament. All their mid laners love Pango.
Yeah? And looking at the Mario's hero pool i'm looking at two range heroes
venge maybe razor that can come out from the offlane oh god just that you have a good laning
matchup against this monkey king please Please no, not the Venge.
I don't like Razor against Morphite there.
He turned into the Razor.
I think that Team Liquid has done a really good job
at picking a draft
that it's hard to pick an Amara hero
into but teams have tried this before and he just goes Timbersaw that it's hard to pick an Amar hero into.
But teams have tried this before, and he just goes Timbersaw.
So...
This man played like 10 thousand games on Timbersaw
so he knows all the matchups
It's like, oh Monkey King in the lane there's nothing I can do. So that's also still a possibility
He doesn't pretty much care about
the match ups when he is playing that Timber
I actually remember Aoi saying that he thinks
Timber is a counter to Monkey because you can just cut the wave on
timber and then you cut his trees.
So, I don't know if he still believes
that because wave cutting is harder
on timber now that the reactive armor has been nerfed.
Oh, that was the end of your thought i thought it was going to be a little bit more about like
an alternative throwing out there or not but i liked it there's there's not much that would
look good in this draft i think think you just need something, some
added body for your gyro
because you have double range. You really just need a body
to throw in there. Yep, there it is.
Classic of Mario. And like you mentioned
Jenkins, the Jakiro early on in the draft does kind of help alleviate
the tension from the Monkey King safe lane where there is a hero that does very well
against it so that you can pick a melee hero because a third ranged here would have been
way too difficult to run for falcons
i actually think the jokiro makes it so that uh the timber doesn't lose lane to monkey
i remember the way that you would previously play this, is you would just
Max Q and W on
Timber, and just out-damage the
Monkey, and try not to let him get like four
Jingu stacks, and with the Jakiro, that's kind of
easy. I'm not sure how it's played on this patch because the nukes
were nerfed but I think probably
that's the way he'll do it. Level 1 and level 2
in that matchup is pretty bad for Monkey
He needs that second point in Jingu
You might get false sense of security that you can trade with one level of
jingu but you're gonna get bursted down by timber maxing out his spells and also jakiro this hero
when he hits level two the damage output is insane.
Looking at both of the drafts I feel like Team Falcons they have this one
Ancient Apparition a hero that I wanted to see
This is the first showing off the hero
I feel like it shut down what they want to do
The healing from Beastmaster more fling and uh
what else did they have they have one more healing hero monkey i believe yes
and it is a carry it's mckay playing it but it is a cool-down hero
and for me this game is just about the off-liners. It's going to be 3-3 versus Amar
which hero hits their timings faster
and brings more tempo?
We're gonna get some more words from Blitz
and Purge right now about the draft.
Hey Blitz what's the tension like between you guys
in this match? Skeeter DM'd
me on Instagram and said we don't have to worry about getting
second because they've got this one but
these guys are clowns and this one's free.
Okay, great. Moon was asking about the draft
he said what's going to be your plan
to end this game? Are you worried
about going high ground against all their AOE?
No I feel like we're gonna hit a pretty nice
pipe timing. I feel like their heroes
should be a little bit slow.
And as long as mid is kind of okay,
we should just roll through lanes.
Were you surprised that
you were able to get the Beastmaster?
He thought your Chen and Enchant bands
telegraphed things.
Yeah, I mean, I was a little bit surprised because he had his own He thought that your Chenin and Chain fans kind of telegraphed things.
Yeah, I mean, I thought it was a little bit surprising but clearly they think
they have an answer and it's kinda just a coin flip as to whether we were
correct or they were correct here.
And what about the AA? We haven't seen much this tournament.
Moonset is good but almost nobody's picking it.
Obviously anti-healing is good against Morph.
Yeah I mean if there's a good game for it,
It's probably this one. Maybe they were just trying to cover all their angles
in case this was a Morph carry.
But we'll see, I haven't...
We haven't played against a hero in so long
so I have no idea.
Do you even know what his facets are?
Because I don't.
I have zero idea, no.
If only Sheeva was here.
I know she plays that hero every single game of her life.
What about the gyro against the beast?
Do you think that lane is a little bit worrisome
since he's going to murder all his little friends?
Yeah, it's like Skeeter's go-to
I feel like hands are kind of shaky
and so you need a hero to pick
It's like Skeeter Gyrocopter, very reliable.
It should be good yeah.
What about the Timbersaw?
Amarr's Timber saw is great
You're not afraid of it though?
I mean it's just a Timbersaw
It's Amarr we've had like eight
heroes you know i don't get given 15 bands so there's only so much i can do
that's true you did your best well good luck in the match cheers thank you Here we go ladies and gentlemen getting ready for Team Falcons up against Team Liquid.
And my goodness, I mean we heard there you know it seemed too fast or maybe they were because as
blitz said she can't ban all of them are sure but fifth pick timber saw i feel like falcons
amarr they only do this when they know that the game is theirs and
they're normally right for it. Yeah
he does have some crazy win rate on
this here and he always seems to know how to itemize
I think that's the thing I like to talk about him the most
besides him just being the best timber in the world he buys different
items it feels like almost every game if he sees an opportunity for like a ewells game he sees
an ag's rush game akaya rush game he hasn't done the blink so much now but he used to do stuff
like that he always adapts so yeah let's see if Team Liquid has brought a strategy that can actually work versus this fifth pick timber and of course we have to talk
About the say, hey, we do we just don't get it a lot
It's definitely one of those heroes that in practice right?
It's the ice block you see the meta that we're
in we're getting a lot of these more things and social course this game it's not a support mall
thing but still the element at the ice blast can completely ruin uh some of the popular heroes
right now that do rely on that regen,
the burst heal and even this game,
of course with another Monkey King.
With Jingu Mastery Heal coming into play but I've got to only imagine
that there's a lot of reasons why this hero ain't that great
right now because no one else is playing like
what are the weak points and what are maybe the concerns for falcons when you're picking
this hair in this game it's just sometimes you just run into this form of lack of disable
because it has this five position that you do sometimes want to have that
hello and this time they did cover it early on right they had the sankin jekiro really quickly
picked up fast and then even do have missile which isn't the most reliable kind of stun or anything
but it is things to allow this hero to be able to catch some of these
ultimates in these positions so definitely important we'll have to see four staffs glimmers
etc perhaps coming out for the side of liquid and of course as they said that pipe which i'm wondering
who's gonna build the pipe and when because
Beastmaster it usually takes some time you use your wire eggs yes then maybe
we're going to play back there or something but I don't know
I'm not sure who's gonna actually have a way I mean blitz was Sam right he felt
confident about their pipe timing yeah so we're gonna have to
see that in practice or is boxy going to do some type of pipe morphing or something i mean
we'll have to see what to see what they do i reckon most likely it's 33 going out i think
so too yeah and the other thing too is he's just gonna take
too much time it's just to be a bit awkward
get other things done on them all but
was either way someone's gonna build it if they
don't that's gonna be concerning A because
it's very good part game and because we heard from Coach
Blitz that that was part of the plan at least
from his perspective. Absolutely.
We'll see what the move is from Liquid. Either way
as I said at the start of this all, this is
going to be a big challenge for liquid if they're able
to take this game against falcons getting a last pick timber saw that's gonna be beyond
impressive but yeah so far i don't think any of the teams are capable of doing that no it
doesn't seem like it.
So other things I do have to mention too is besides just the Ice Blast,
Ice Vortex is pretty insane in this meta.
I felt like we were actually going
to see this hero more
because Sanctum just became...
You know, Sanctum's being picked every game. Jekiro's
even being picked for pretty much the majority of these games too so
can't ever scoff at something like
Ice Vortex cause even though yes there'll be
a pipe and stuff potentially
it kind of makes that, it nullifies a lot of that pipe and they
have a ton of magic damage.
Gyrocopter, he maxes barrage in almost every instance.
He plays super active. All the spells
are going to be amped up pretty much throughout the lineup.
I know we're going back to the the draft but of course we've got time
the pause is coming in i think it's pretty interesting you'll think as well that they
actually did consider in this game the uh the amasark more of a threat than the amar timber did you sort of understand
why that would have been the case from uh liquid perspective during this draft do you agree with
that or would you in that situation,
rather have dealt with the Slark than the Timberslip?
I think I would probably
have wanted to dealt with the Slark
but I can say...
Crit.
Insania, be careful
how you step up here
it does an absurd amount of damage.
He's got a Bearfire!
Oi! He's not going to get him though and i'll crit maybe getting baited himself a tp
heads up play that was close then it's like we're just gonna be able to
get another hit but he didn't grip gets! No first blood to be had quite yet.
That's kind of a little bit of a Jib bait play from both sides.
Yeah it really is.
I think we've seen this one now coming out a little more even
and just the skill matchup of who's getting hit if you do
get like a stun to block a shield's getting hit if you do get like
a stun to block a shield
crash or something if
you get these big stinger
explosions it can be
devastating but pango
has just done good in
almost every single
matchup that we've seen
so should be yeah the
skill matchup will see
how that one ends up going and then bottom you heard
it from moon himself you know they pre-picked this gyrocopter to answer the beastmaster early
on in the laning phase since you can just run him down but also kill those boars and
hawks with your flag and then they picked the Beastmaster into it anyway,
so Liquid wanted to play this hero
and didn't seem to not have been fussed about that matchup.
So quick other thing about the Slark...
I'm trying to think about why
maybe they wanted to get rid of it also.
It's perhaps the save function,
because Depth Shroud is very good
versus Beastmaster in particular
if you're not focusing the Slark
who's able to get that onto one of his cores and stuff.
And Amar's just annoying on it,
so maybe it's something
along those lines.
But yeah,
they'll have to deal with the Timber.
They will for this game
and depending on how
this game goes,
we may not see it again
in this series
if this ends up being a rough game for Liquid
and Falcons are able to take it.
Yeah, let's see how top ends
up going in particular as I said. Level 3
is the main timing for TheMonkeyKing to be able
to apply pressure onto the timber saw and also with
crit having the tp out early it does give milk a good start here since that attack speed slow
from the dual breath also was not leveled up so yeah he should be able to get those stacks
up until level two comes out and Crit's able
to counteract it.
But that's the theory of this lane is them just trying not allowing him to get those
stacks.
So far Amarr is going to be struggling a little bit at least slow down a bit
as we see there though undefeated on this sort
so as i say really real challenge liquid they're gonna have to do something at the sort of performing
a level beyond what they've been playing out and they've already been playing of course
with fantastic level to get this far in the tournament but to beat an armada
staying low i gotta watch something else i gotta keep watching this mid a nisha's playing this
beautifully contesting every single deny forced a sandstorm back at the tower from Malrein too
so he's doing excellent in the mid lane right now.
It looks like it could be a first blood this time round
and they catch him with the slur
Primal spring!
And he wants to put a deny for neutral T-car
McKay able to deny the neutral t-car okay have a fine first blood nicely done level three's
been hit so they've got these jingu stacks up kurt has to be more careful with this positioning
there though step up a bit far i believe he went for a courier snipe.
Maybe got baited a little bit there.
And Boxy, he's gonna be
even more annoying. So Malrean
probably wants to go for the fill-up into the bottle there from Pritt,
since they did kill Privat Bruin contestant.
Now Nisha steps up quite aggressively.
Didn't expect Pritt to sort of be in position to fight back.
He's going to be out with TP but only just.
But has to get sent back
to base so we'll see maureen very likely catch back up there on the cs over overzealous stepping
up there that i mean doesn't see in particular they they were keeping in but yeah a good tp from crit
now of course gotta be something you expect to imagine when the support dies
especially if you're denying his water ruins on the side too like that's when
it's like oh yeah these are gonna be people yeah i mean yeah even white knee shelves doesn't get
punished right it was close though if he did go down there that would have been quite a mistake
yep and let's see how the stacks end up going
down think of the
Sand King even if
the lane does get
maybe not perfect
for you you just
go back and get
the stacks they
did not actually
block these so
choice from Team
Liquid to not
go for those
that are
prioritizing on
the other lanes
sometimes you do see versus
Sand King or SF, or these Flash Farmers
that does get stacked out.
And of course we'll see Beastmaster struggling
but he's getting those stacks up and ready
as we tend to see. But he's not struggling as much as i expected him to
he's got 20 cs which isn't so bad however it's zero contest on the skater yeah absolutely okay
feel right here mark interested maybe going back in now to help read out the initial first
do rep me and on towards my case trying to survive it through the life skills
able to take grit down so come on can get him in return. He's got to be careful
here indeed. Mikkei stands his ground,
Amar at the moment not quite
at the level where he has the best to truly threaten
the Monkey King. Mm-hmm. Mikkei going
standard kind of build here with the Orb of Corrosion very effective when you're
playing versus any of these sustained heroes in the lane.
Krent since he dies back to the midlane and goes to fill up.
Can he secure Power Rune?
Nisha, he's hit level six already.
Instant D ward as well.
They can't go for him, he has the Rolling Thunder
and is able to get across
it's going up to the top
powering in is Nisha
to come around with a good angle here does not have the vision himself
they kill skitter oh boy two of them that's you how did i think they just get
chills out of nowhere really how did they get the bottom one but i know
they've been moving around and stuff but but wow. Getting the gyro pop up with this lane.
He's ready to fight!
He's gonna jump in aggressively towards Amar.
Battlestat comes in to stop the Timber Chain.
Amar is in trouble.
Jump fall from Boxy.
They're getting kills on all lanes here Liquid.
6-0. Six minutes in. Pitcher perfect early. they're getting kills on all lanes here liquid six to zero
six minutes in picture perfect early game i cannot the bottom lane in
particular is the most surprised that they're able to bring down skittles
falcons must have been playing aggressive or something going through
themselves like that.
Boxxy in 33 working their magic,
Boxxy particularly on his four more fling.
It's been pretty outstanding.
Not every single game,
but when it does pop off in this hero,
can do some crazy stuff and he has a really good spouse to turn into as we do see even versus the timber and stuff so pretty cool see what he's going to be able
to do when he does get just turn into some of these heroes and use their abilities against them
and yeah the beast getting a kill
super hot stuff from Liquid on the lanes.
With their lineup, is that kind of expected
for them to have the edge in the laning stage?
They tend to draft for lanes
That's kinda how Liquid likes to play overall
especially going for this Monkey King Mikke
A lot of people are playing it but I feel like Mick is just the specialist
on it. They seem to do very well when he does
play it. So far things are looking
excellent and they have shut down this last pick
timber so far. In the laning phase its net worth is quite
long things are very good for them to build a pressure 2aa there's other cons there's another
uh thing about this heroes you can just get ran down a lot of times. You can feed pretty easy on this hero.
It's a nice one to feed on.
It is, it is.
Once he starts,
you just can't stop him sometimes.
We'll see if...
Snake King professional player will be able to slow down
the dying he's died twice already but uh well it gets crazy
snaking usually does have quite a bit of that so oh that's not
don't give the support that's dying the aa it's only going to
get worse but he's got good levels that's the one thing he's actually almost level six already at
this point in eight minutes since that's pretty outstanding so getting quite a bit down there
maybe getting some extra bores and stuff I wasn't able to
see at the start, because Skeeter's also level 6, so
getting a lot out of this bot lane, even though they did
die on the Gyrocopter their high level.
And he'll find a D-Ward which actually pushes
him to 6. Snee has 6, 8 minutes
30 seconds. Which is very
fast especially if you die in the lane. That's true
It doesn't matter how much
your feed on it if you hit your Ice Blast
And speaking of that Ice Blast blast it might come in a bit unexpected
let's get the hit onto insania quite some new shave away they're not gonna have to follow up
to bring anything below the thresholds but just getting them off we'd have to back away that was an opportunity just maybe sees
you know because they i don't think they expect this a to be six this early on
because looking at the other supports nobody else is even nobody else is that close yet
boxy is actually because he's now been given the lane since 33 is getting jungled yeah 33 being able to jungle this point after getting a kill look at his net
worth on this beast it's phenomenal you're doing great. We've seen beasts off to...
I feel like usually the beast is off
to a pretty tough start,
they have some sort of way
to shut him down during
the laning phase and whatever
plan they had here,
as you say,
the idea was picking the jar
it's trying to scare him off this is why they weren't scared of
picking the beast anymore absolutely right line
trying to work himself away boxy is making the move so he's joshua
well amma's pretty prepared for this one
now i'm going to catch him out plays it
safe somebody get that get out of the
lane smoking bottom they want to try to
pressure 33. they know he's having way too good of a time,
Maureen. Looking for
position. There's a defensive ward placed on
33 and he is healthy. On top
of that, he's not squishy. He has the Siege of Serenity
that he's kept himself full HP at.
Ogre Axe too, so 1500 HP on this beast.
Not an easy kill commit but they will just steal the stacks and attempt to.
They'll probably be able to get this neutral stack at least.
This is going to die pretty easily. Sam's still on the way.
He scares off.
Okay, and Nidia doesn't want to stick around
and try and burst it with a fire strike.
Has to use it to get away from Nisha.
Hiding in the trees! I think they know he's there
she's scared but uh they definitely know he's here oh wait oh my god okay nearly able to do something that indeed is gonna be slowed down. Does not have a TP available and even if he did
wouldn't be able to use it.
Crit goes down, Liquid are able
make sure that this area of the map is kept safe
The Falcons are forced out
Smashing this early game so far
Even Boxy I'm seeing what he's doing He's being very annoying versus Amar SMASHING THIS EARLY GAME SO FAR. EVEN BOXY, I'M SEEING WHAT HE'S DOING.
HE'S BEING VERY ANNOYING VERSUS AMAR.
HE'S JUST SHIFTING.
HE'S TURNING INTO THE TIMBER AND WHEN AMAR GOES TO
FARM ANCIENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT,
HE JUST TIMBER CHAINS IN, THROWS A WORDLING DEATH.
SO IT'S VERY PESKY.
I LOVE WHAT TEAM LIQUID IS DOING RIGHT NOW WITH THIS PRESSURE 8-0. in, throws a Whirling Death. So it's very pesky. I love what Team Liquid is doing right
now with this pressure 8-0 so far.
Do lose their bottom tower but
either way they've done phenomenal
on this lane. That's a crazy good start.
And that could enhance that timing for the
Pipe to come up very fast, like Blitz was saying.
The Aghanims into Pipe perhaps could just be
that build for Beastmaster to look to surround him.
Misha getting active.
There we go, Bal balance to set up onto a mark
it's worth the chain they're going to continue to chase with the four of them here tp's have to come in and throw an attempt to help him out but he's already got
the kill and now now they do not want
to fight this. They can't fight Liquid
in this area, even on their side of the map. Liquid
at the moment too strong for Falcons
to tackle head-on. And they
are going to steal pretty much everything here, Nisha off to a
phenomenal start and he's gonna go the Mage Slayer
route that we saw a couple other players do
which is very good this game versus the Mass
Magic damage so throw a Pipe at a Mage Slayer
majority of that damage early game is going to be
negated from falcons it's going to be skitter who does pretty much all the ways
he's just gonna be tickling a little bit and then we've got a bit of pure coming out
from the timber so yeah but the timber is very shut down after this
thing mid he's gonna go for the setup here and
snake king's around top out nice little jukes nisha won't want to
play around that close to tower anymore because mario crick skidder turned up
turn up in their numbers they're going
to try and see if they can find something for the waveforms up on boxing falcons they won't get a
killer out this one gotta try to pressure tower here they want to try to get something out of
this movement where they bring four.
But in the meanwhile, Team Liquid's just getting
this farm going, three components
of the Aghanims already done for that Beastmaster pick.
And they finish off this tower.
Rolling Thunder still on cooldown. Are they gonna look Can they finish off this tower?
Rolling Thunder still on cooldown.
Are they going to look to rotate perhaps even Mikkei,
and who's also gone Mage Slayer?
So there—they're like tripling down
perhaps onto this Magic Negation versus Team Falcons
which looks quite strong especially in the early game.
That's no surprise there with the change up
in the build as you say, prioritize the mage
that at this point will be the fastest we've seen
on a Monkey king i think
i think it was him who did it the last time too but not sure i just i remember seeing another one
of these major players early on and looked very good because we're seeing just yet rise
of sandking and all this so definitely very strong if he's able to
get that onto any of these targets which in team
fights he will yeah absolutely absolutely i guess the only
there's what the trade-off here when you go for this it's
it's not going to speed up your farming rate.
So if the game starts
to fall into a bit more
of a passive state...
I mean,
it's Monkey King
even without like
Maelstrom or something
farms pretty quickly
especially with this
you've got the mana regen
to sustain like
Primal Spring in a round. But he's playing for aggression i don't
think liquid is looking to be that type of slow pace team you can see a skill point he's 314. so
when you see it if you want to slow down and get farm on these monkeys you go for the max primal
and this is kind of the archetype
about Team Liquid, right?
They don't like to really play
those farm games.
Yes if it comes to it they'll
sometimes do it but
they want to be dictators
of tempo and super aggressive
with items and these heroes
Sure
Yeah this is very ideal
for it so double mage slayers and so far maril reen still
struggling also you know these two cores definitely getting impacted from the way that
he's leaning the lane went down so So, no blink still.
His timing's working out for him
because at 33 just about to have his Agnum done...
It's so fast.
...the timing that they're smashing in this game
we already saw both Pango and Monkey King hitting the fastest-made Slayer rushes we've seen.
9 to 0, they're keeping that 4k lead growing not giving up even a CM or anything.
Sometimes in these games like a crystal maiden does get picked
off from a move so far even insania dodging the moves 10a it's last i saw
yes it is maybe looking to catch them more for something low but
boxy's not playing low
just count things out as well checking out the shampan case because
we'll skidder a chance to try and sneak finale once speed up
and nobody's got back up behind him looking for not a big boundless strike
connection falcons they're a little scared of time
for the fight off to the side there's four
maurin's gone another container as well
the burst is coming out skidder falling low double kill for these issues he finishes
it all off with the shield crash midday he got the woocombs come on down on the aaa snake
it goes down fifth long four Amar he's caught by
Nibalis Liquid. He's alone.
He misses to Tipperjane!
Amar is gonna be taken down slowly but
surely it's a team wipe by Liquid
here of 15 minutes in.
Five for one, perfect fight
They snipe Maureen on the side before he gets
literally anything off
they get the roar on Skeeter
Beastmaster dies but a perfect move from Liquid
Crazy stuff from Liquid.
It's picture-perfect really.
Yeah they're playing the best you've seen for them
and as I say, they've already set the bar pretty high
but turning up today in this game one against Valkens
letting Amarr have his last pick timbersaw 15 minutes in liquid
they're completely cruising on you they've got the answers so far 7k lead everything is just
working out in their favor with a mark
I'll have to break away
on those final moments
ooh
missing the chain
dies probably
very likely anyway
but either way
does miss it
playing fast they're going keep this the speed going
over with a Mac coming out pretty soon premise he has it he's got it that's
gonna be added into the next fight the next play we're not seeing the pipe
comes straight up quite yet now we're getting to blink first see over in the river and second
is gonna get jumped towards he's got back up mal rainey's going to
drop the epicenter they won't ditch him don't take what they can
they can kill onto the cm do they get anything more there's a missile heading
away on mickey jump forward from more? There's a missile heading away on Mikke.
Don't fall from the mark.
It's a lot of birds.
The Ice Blast is in and taking Mikke down.
Here comes the roar.
33 and Nisha there ready to fight some kills
in return.
Rolling Thunder connects over towards Malorine.
They've killed two of them off.
Falcons, they get a 2 for 2 trade.
All things considered, you know it's something
for them.
It's small.
Too great.
They're losing their mid.
They're losing their off lane.
Nisha is doing too much.
They've got to find an answer somehow
for this.
It's a last pick Pango that also came into the pool
and he is flawless
6-0-4
catching Malrein
every single time
it feels like
this time they will lose
they will lose
a little bit but it doesn't really matter.
They do get so much out of him.
But Falcons are at least happy to claim something for themselves.
We've got the last hit that Skidder gets any of them.
Much needed time to get the kills i see boxy cooing up the cloak it might just be him i think with the way that the early game has gone too
that pipe it's still gonna be necessary but they don't need as much because they have
these double mage slayers that kind of do similar
to be able to reduce a lot of that damage.
And yeah, their steamrolling moves and they're really breathing every play.
Look at Falcons right now setting up bottom and Team Liquid's already prepared perhaps.
They're going to try for the burst on 33.
remember the virus tracking the ice blaster and actually had to pull up
damage to bring 32 below the threshold he put a fan called coffee upon him but
i've lost the two heroes they do get the job done uh but indeed at the cost of
both with their lives.
I mean, yeah, Smiles there on 33
I don't think he cares.
Mourine is throwing his life away
to kill this Beastmaster.
This doesn't slow down Liquid.
No, 33 is super happy and speaking about slowing
down, it's actually going to be Liquid who probably speeds up
very soon because they have the potential
to just do a rush at any moment.
I think every time we've seen this Agsbeast come out
most teams can go threaten it if
they'd like to so something that team falcons is gonna have
to be prepared in the next upcoming moments and nisha's farm is just crazy 11 000 so far
made slayer blink two components of that agonist and of course gets blessed with the over destruction as well
to on top so a free game so far for this tango you might have to just smoke blow everything
sometimes soon in this early game because otherwise he might just not die
that's the problem right they just kind of tried to do that albeit they only did it with two of
them sure uh it didn't go very cleanly they're gonna try now with a four of them falcons see
what i can find?
They know that this rush
is very likely to happen.
You know,
that Agonist Beast
it's kind of that tell
that timing
that most teams
have been going around
so they're looking
to play around it
but Liquid
they're playing smart
they're not forcing
it just yet
perhaps expecting
this fight
he should come in through the portal so if we can get the jump again on 33
did kill him last time now the backups here from nisha
at an epicenter at the side.
He's able to connect with a borrow strike.
Ice Blast to follow up.
Can they burst through?
Nisha is having the shield crash on the Ice Blast!
Straight into Pony and it brought Nisha down.
But they're going to lose a lot.
The two cores drop.
It's just such a cost each and every time
that they try and make these plays, Falcons.
I don't blame them for just blowing everything onto Nisha.
They have to try to slow his game down.
Absolutely, they have to eliminate Mango tango but as we're saying even
if they do that winning a team fight it's uh real kind of tall task for them right now and
now into the pit liquid thing let go those two heroes get get on falcons no mallory no amar there'll be
no team fight no contest off this rush they'll just back up try to get some farm efficiency but
it dies fast on liquid with this beastmaster it's going down mic, SNY is done so versus these chain stuns there are definitely possibilities that if
they don't do it perfectly he can get reset away and get away perhaps even from that AA
blast.
Status resistance gonna be nice for him.
Do they have any repositioning yet?
I see Boxy, he's just going to be
going down the standard,
back into the pipe and make it
almost have a four-step on the CM
so they will be able to push him out as well yeah
he's pretty close right yeah i can go all the way and uh if indeed make everyone get this shot next
off bs and y it's super nice. Also, just to sort of have
that surprise movement in the middle of a fight
it means it makes it that little bit harder for
Snake King to line up his Ice Blast because Monkey
King is at the other end of his Boundless Strike.
Yeah, this shard is one
of my favorite ones
currently at the
moment even though
we don't see
Monkey King too
much because it's
getting banned in a
lot of games or
some teams don't
prefer to play it
but it has
offensive potential
that defensive
potential it has
so many different
things you can't do with
itself at team liquid keeping this lead consistent here foxy
they're trying to jump look ice glass will connect so he's got a lot of age to work
with and stays himself shifted up coming in from the side snaking stead
Oh Mallory thank you can't nobody get up there hi grab these oh that's the coming in from the side, Snake King's dead. Oh,
Malrean.
He's not able to get up
to the high ground.
Oh,
that's a beautiful angle
back there.
One of the times
you're very happy
they stuck sort of
between the walls
of the cliff.
It was perfect.
He was kept right
on top of the Sand King. and 33 just solo killed them are
uh liquid just i mean this is crazy gloves and
it's gonna be quite a hit i feel for falcons losing this game one as we saw in the stats this hasn't this hasn't been
happening when they pick kamara's timber sword it was gonna be shaken up a little bit they come
to this last big team but they don't
they don't lose with that falcon but maybe today here in this game one
they do how many of these can they just nerf pango already i think we're gonna
get a mini map replay of nisha of course but my But my goodness, how many of these last pick Pangos
and how many years are we gonna have to deal with this hero
just dominating games? I mean, Nisha
playing it perfectly so far here as
he really has dominated super hard in
this one. And his itemization's it's clean you know going for
this mage player there's a nice in-between item for the natural build up yeah all the timings from
liquid are coming very flawlessly to this game i mean it was just to be expected when you've
you know you've won the lanes you're having this lead
but they're definitely not letting it go to waste and a liquid they're hitting timing
after timing off the time which is leaving very few windows really for falcons to do anything
it's getting to sort of the point where it's all in skater yeah it really feels like that falcons are kind of in the
position that they've been able to force most of the other teams that they've
defeated on the way to this point yeah uh where indeed is just gonna hit creeps
hope for the best and hope that the carry can carry you i really is feeling like it's it's almost
entirely unspeed at this point because this
this four more fling has gotten away with the greed five zero eleven also on
boxy making clean moves and he's got the mech in the pipe
So three of the heroes in particular
Are very countered now, the AA
The Sanking and the Jakiro's damage is going to be
Very reduced on that, on top of the Mage Slayer
As well too
Beautiful itemizationization beautiful play
so far so for team falcons have to just try to maybe
slow down the pace of the game get some type of recovery
and just let skeeter do his thing because right now he is still farming very well, but it's not easy when there's this Roar
that's always gonna focus fire him.
They pretty much can throw multiple hero spells on him
And there are so many that pierce BKB
The Wukong has thrown on him plus a roar
In most situations he's just dead.
See what they look to do.
This making aggressive moves seems pretty impossible now.
Oh! now oxy
he says enough the pipe doesn't know you know he doesn't have the pipe does he? No, no he doesn't.
Oh he doesn't okay. Yeah I thought he had some.
He debated us because he queued up the ring on its own so it was like oh he only needs to buy the ring!
And he's still very far but he's not too far away.
Yeah, we got bounces.
And even without that,
we've been seeing what
he's been able to do
on this morph
with the Morph ability
and he's just staying
at pretty much full strength
in every occasion
just in case like a stun and an blast comes up. He'll take through it
Yeah, absolutely will tank through it. Hey well its I
Mean I imagine the
Blast is pretty much just gonna hit on whoever you get caught in the Boros Strike,
the opening stun. Ideally...
In terms of a hero that you're actually gonna have a chance to kill
it's gotta be Bopapango or the Honky-Kate
Yeah, feels like that at the moment
especially because this beast has VKB
It could just not working you don't want
to waste out on those support and the beast master 33 very likely will have already got his roar off
in a team fight so it's uh just trying 100 to 0 one of the other two cores,
one of Mikkei or Nisha.
That feels exactly how they have to try to execute once
they do perhaps maybe once they get the BKB on Malorine
he'll feel a little bit more comfortable for them
to try to 100-0 but liquid now with firm control of
the map just not really letting too many people go out and farming look at the state
the state of the map they have two like four heroes kind of occupying
the bottom jungle box he's taking triangle a mark can't farm anywhere
even skitter can't find many places to farm and there's the roar easy kill 33 minute i
think you might have had that because honestly he have just been out of solo kill marina
Tower to drop if you continue in this pressure
They are crumbling. They are crumblingumbling big time and i mean looking back at it what
what do you feel what about the falcons taken away from this game taking away from his job
i feel like one of them the aaa might not be showing its face i think it might
not yeah they just take complete advantage think it might not, yeah. It just...
They're taking complete advantage of it in the laning phase
and for a second
I just cannot believe that they got the kill bottom on Skeeter
In a lane with like you know
They kind of preempted this
And Boxy?
They try to fight
But indeed Boxy's having a walk out of all this
MikkeZnake down the wukong's
command nishin crashing up towards the tier fours with a rolling thunder and march doing
a good job of forcing them out at the base the liquid will back up no kill to be got though
because now being dead if he was alive perhaps they could
maybe get some type of kill as a retreat but immediately when he respawns liquid
resets backs up away pretty much no mistakes coming out from
team with it after winning lanes and making zero
mistakes the key to success for sure and now getting even more of these items b can be done
through the monkey king so now popping him also perhaps quite difficult you might just
have to go for the pango in every
situation which is i mean probably necessary anyway falcons
they're going to try to small catch them off guard rolling thunder on cooldown
all right let's have a look cam falcon find something
correct spotted right away immediate moves there from liquid
away from the potential move coming in towards them
and they'll nuke and nisha might just continue like shoving
bot even though he's not the best pushing here on a pango. They've got to catapult wave.
Never mind, he's TPing mid. He wants to fight.
Foxy is making the call.
Falcon's already
on the retreat. This ward
is placed and it does see Nisha.
And they have to blow absolutely everything
to just pop him, but he seems...
They seem to know that this vision is there.
Kripp watching from the trees.
Not gonna go for any setup himself.
And they're scouted now, the illusions will see them.
Falcons...
Is there any chance of taking a fight
Now that their position has been known?
They have to have this perfect now that their position has been known.
They have to have this perfect...
they need a perfect situation for them
to just pop the pango and somehow kind of
get the ball rolling after that, but yeah
Liquid reset and then okay you want
to fight us outside? Your base is being pushed. We'll just shove it in.
Bottom's getting pinged out. They already have to start
setting up for the defense.
Sonsi being by Mikkei, setting up in the tree line.
Ooh, nice little dodge there doesn't get caught by the Burrow Strike.
The three going down.
Falcons completely forced back to
the base and there's that pipe
boxy there we are now it's time
now it's time
i mean it's definitely like not the fastest of timings by any means
but it is very good timing for support morph with him back on top
Absolutely
With the arcane boots and he has done so much
And as you said Liquid haven't needed it before now
Nope they did not
It will be that nice sort of cherry on top to allow them to push the high ground
protection in the game pretty much yeah and okay i like that he used this survivability
he delayed that shard he wanted to get that oh he didn't have that maureen in the house
so no chance ready for falcons to try and turn this fight skida has to beat kp and run away he jumps into burst, we'll see how much Nisha wants to dive
he's going to look towards snaking
beautiful angles here for Nisha
to keep snaking
locked down
three dead on Falcons
Amar caught outside the base
They might call this
they may indeed do so Amar caught outside the base. They might call this.
They may indeed do so.
Amar.
But this game,
it's looking pretty done and dusted.
It sure is a five for...
I mean they kill
four heroes
and lose absolutely nobody.
The chain stun
Malvin gets nothing off boxy just claims
the high ground gets the perfect catch with the beastmaster roaring falcons it's i think
it's looking forward to that next game as liquid looking to at least get one Rax advantage here.
They may not feel the need to back off.
We'll see how easy they can just kill whoever
they want to jump and start a fight.
Bottom tower is 300 HP, let's see if they do take the risk to go for it as well
so we're played super safe oh mallory just started something off here it's not gonna happen i'll take
the wraps they'll back up play around their vision immediately they have another
roar available here skitter his bkb's on cooldown does reset to the side 18 000 gold lead
and yeah the line is being drawn by 000 gold lead
and yeah the line is being drawn boxy furiously dropping on the left side they're just saying okay we got that lane
bottom's gonna push in so it's mid picking up these neutral items as well i'm seeing the next queue up i've been
seeing him switching back and forth nullifier
just great optimization being able to deal with their agonies on
the timber even though they already have the answers to it it seems like
just with overwhelming damage
yeah just good choices to be able to go for every single one of these
one of the cleaner games I think we've seen
see he's around in my arena me here as a waffle okay HP heroipe and Mac.
They can't kill him.
One of if not the tankiest support I guess you could have in this game at
this point if you're having a good game. Definitely.
Boxxie played it to perfection.
Beastmaster morphing lane coming through your pubs.
The beast already was but add the morphling in it.
Yeah and that's happened in pubs before
but normally when there is a disagreement on who's playing core
only they try and contest the cs here that's not the case professional support and nisha now has
a lincoln so the target they ideally wanted, just 100 to 0, now has
protection versus the...
One of the only targeted spells that they have,
that Burrow. They have the Missile and the
AA one, but those are not really the easiest ones
to catch to break a Linc's on a pango so he has
he has the opportunity to live in pretty much every instance even if they maybe get
the initial cast samar playing around their vision this could be rough nisha
i found because i mean then they're sort of watching but how do they start who
goes first and whoever goes in almost certainly gonna die
do they really want to jump Moxie? No.
He's going in.
He's going to go in, he'll tell me the bar is right there.
They're going to throw the spells down onto the support wall.
That's going to be the freedom for Mikkei to jump the back of the fight.
The roar's down onto Sita.
Sita's gone.
Brutus are down as well.
Snakey gets chased out.
It is absolutely over!
GG is called
as Team Liquid completely
smashed Falcons in this game 1-0.
Decimating the lanes. bottom lane just about in particular going better than
expected with that beast versus they get a kill but the other two lanes were the big ones to look
at nisha ran the show on this pango there This is a last big pango that completely destroys
the game and this Monkey King CMA,
it did work versus The Timber.
The Timber and Jekera were not able to slow
it down. Amar was on catch up pretty much
the entire game and all Falcons were on catch-up.
Absolutely, absolutely Liquid as I say they did not care in the end about that last pick Timber
And that is not something that a lot of teams will be confident to do
But Liquid turning it up today they knew that the way that they
were played would leave no chance for them and it was certainly the case 073 i believe what amara's
first loss on the timber at this tournament it was 4-0 up until this point that is a rough one and i think overall from this
job what else do you think team falcons are going to be taking away because the game where you get
run over this quickly you've got to mainly be focusing on the picks, right?
Something went wrong.
Yeah, probably just
shop the AA,
go for your normal strategies.
They tried to perhaps
do something
because they saw
them morph into Monkey
and they're like,
oh, AA Blast is going
to be good
depending on which one
is Core either way.
It didn't end up looking good at all, they weren't actually able...
Even though also Snake...
Out of all the heroes, Bonsai's support he didn't even die!
Exactly.
With the AA, more supports from 5-.019 and maybe that was one of the reasons why you picked the AA
it probably doesn't feel too great
no, he got the 6 at 8 minutes 30 seconds
thats a very early timing for an AA to get that blast and it didn't really net them
anything because of how well liquid played trade itemization you couldn't ask for a better game
from them absolutely crazy stuff from liquid into this game one turning up today at a fact sort of
level that i think now people probably weren't expected you
know especially after seeing the drafts i think they
at least you know would have expected to close again with this one was not the
case here team liquid absolutely
stopped game one here against falcons we thought there were uh potentially some
legs to this aa pick we like the reasoning we even heard
from moon the coach of tundra during the draft around the reasons but
ultimately just wasn't able together a lot of people thinking maybe it takes a
lot more time lacrosse to come online. Yeah, they had a
pretty difficult game
because Team Liquid
drafted themselves
as strong early
oriented game
and double mage
that they bought
on Pango
and the Monkey King
as first items
pretty much
did shut down all this
magic damage, and they also shut down Malrine
on a mid lane Sanking which is something that
in this game needed to be done
particularly hard because he's the Blink
Initiator, two supports, they don't have any ways to
make aggressive moves so you need your Sanking
to be able to get stuff done early on and two supports
from Team Falcons if they're off to a bad start these supports they can easily
feed. And we did see that quite a lot but then you look at
sports on the side of liquid and there was so much action coming out from them like non-stop i mean
i had 12 minutes it was not all the way in favor of Liquid there.
Yeah pretty difficult game from Team Falcons but yeah we gotta point out
to supports this position for Morphling even though it was picked
before AA still very difficult game for him on paper but in this game he was really
not feeling it the position 4 morphing or position 4k hp morphing if you want to call it that way
because he had pipe he was morphing into Timbersaw throughout the whole game.
Headmack even though you're playing into Ancient Apparition
You still wanna bring some tankiness to your own team
cause others are gonna go for the damage
and one thing I particularly like is
that you need to choose which hero
you're gonna go for, like you need to hit
AA blast on 1 of 3
cores but if Morphling
is rushing in and he's blinking in
it also means you need to address him
we normally rely on offlane as a lot to be the one that initiates the front line
to take all that damage so the fact that you can relegate this
to your oppose four he's the one that's creating that chaos
fantastic uh drafting there by the side of liquid
look we could keep talking about all the theories how exactly it played out but
let's check into some highlights and very specific moments with Jenkins.
That's right, Natalie.
Thank you for that wonderful introduction.
Dota 2 is the most nuanced game in the world.
Chinese checkers go? No! It's Dota 2, we're gonna look at some of those
nuances here today. Computer could you
load up the first clip please?
We're going to look at the laning stage, Falcons
last picked the Timbersaw into
The Monkey King hard counter so how do
They play this lane despite being a
Hard counter look at Amara he's dragging
The creeps away from the creep
Equilibrium and monkey king tries to
Head over and fight
with him and then there's this next brief wave on the radiant side that's
running past and he runs to the left he runs towards
this weird fountain thing mickey is like what is this guy doing
he's trying to hop over it and maybe try to contest him.
But he needs to get...he needs to last it!
Look at this! So Amar, he takes
this creep wave and he pulls the next
one as well. This man
has two creep waves chasing him into the
tower. This is how you have to play the Creep
Equilibrium when you're countered.
There's a few different ways that you can do this, so computer
could we load up actually the second clip here
which is a different scenario where they're playing the creep equilibrium
very nicely. Let's get this going
This one is more of a duo
situation. You have Amar
playing very far up on the creep wave
Why is he doing that when he's hard countered the reason that he's
doing that is actually so crit can play around this camp here and he can pull this camp back
so amar is kind of feigning aggression even though you know know, this is not a good trade.
But the thing is he's got to do this
because this frees up grit to pull the camp
and that scenario he died. This is just because Liquid
was playing the lane very well. Amar also
maxed the Timber Chain so we can trade with the Monkey King a little bit
and then Timber Chain away, so
it's not ideal. Obviously your Timbersaw,
you want to get some kills here,
so they were doing very well in that lane on the side
of Falcons. Monkey King is obviously going to free farm, but you're supposed to stomp that lane on the side of falcons monkey king's obviously going to free
farm but you're supposed to stomp that lane
now dota i said it's a very nuanced game so we're gonna load up the last clip
here and look at what happened so once again
you have amar kind of playing in the jungle with his support.
Crit is there and Xenia's out of position because he feels like
he needs to come over here and trade with these guys.
Amar jumps in. He's feigning this aggression.
Mikke heads over but look at this TP rotation
here from Boxy.
So while Falcons
is playing the lane very well,
very nice stun there
for Mikkei.
Boxy heads over
and you can win
games of Dota
based on good laning.
You can win games
of Dota based on good laning. You can win games of Dota based on creep
equilibrium, all of this BS
but there's also rotations. There are
nuances if you want to be good at
laning you can win games that way. If you
want a hero you can win games that way. There's a lot of million different ways
to win but there's also
a million different ways
to break down the game
and we're going to see
that with Effie in Purge.
Thanks guys.
Mir is standing here
with me holding
a bunch of precious metals what does it
feel like you know feels kind of cool actually watching from the studio i see people crush these
keys i look at this hydraulic press it's that cool, but now that I'm here
it's kind of hype actually.
I can see how players would be excited putting it in there.
Yeah, it just kind of looks like Play-Doh
when the hydraulic press does its work
unless you get to hold the metal in your hands.
I've got Fanatic Onyx Key from MLBB.
It's very sad for them,
I'm holding their literally crushed dreams
and my hand just like liquid just crushed Falcons.
They actually did, I was
a little unsure because there's been
a lot of stomps, like tactical stomps the last
couple days so I was unsure
who's going to do well at various stages, but that was kind of a big surprise considering Liquid went from getting stomped 2-0 to now stomping.
Yeah, yeah, I thought after Liquid's game versus gaming yesterday that their draft might have looked
a little bit exposed
because that's what
it seemed like to me
especially versus
the Chen and
the Enchantress.
But they got
their Beastmaster
they got their
Pango
and they played
their lanes
incredibly well.
I think that
Farkas probably
underestimated what happens if they give Liquid heroes like that, because Liquid are still one of the most dominant teams
of this tournament. That makes a lot of sense actually, cause I was sitting there watching the draft with Moon i it is so remarkable sitting with a top
four team in the world coach talking
about drafts he's like oh they banned
enchanted or even before they ban
enchantment beast he was like
they need to ban enchanting beasts here
so that they can get
the Beastmaster.
They banned it
and then he's like,
okay,
they're going to
ban Beast now
if they didn't.
Oh,
they banned Oracle.
Okay,
I guess they're
going to be
picking a Darkseer
and then
they get the
Beastmaster
and he's like,
oh,
that's kind of
interesting
that they let him
have the... It's so interesting getting
this. He's like deep nuggets.
Yeah. Maybe they thought they had answers
for Beastmaster. That's what it seems like because
they have the Jakiro and they have the Gyro but
honestly, 3-3 is one of the heroes that he likes to
play his heroes when they're countered anyway because he farms incredibly fast
on beast cluster even after a bad lane. And then he gets
that agg timing, Liquid know how to play around it very well
so maybe a little bit of a mistake there
but also i think it's a little bit of a mistake to leave that niche up handle in
especially if you want to run down the sand king red
that's like your about a lot of teams have been running very effectively
versus him.
I think Moon said that it was actually a bad matchup for Pengo, because he says when you
do shield crash if you just burrow strike him, it just cancels the shield crash so you
don't get the last hit and you don't get a barrier either.
So he actually says it's a hard matchup
He said Nishida was doing really well so...
In theory it should be but I've seen
a lot of Pango versus Sand King in this tournament
One that i also remember is GPK-Pango
versus XM-Sandking, and GPK won that thing.
So I think it can be a little bit skill-based where if you're very experienced pango player
You can actually get the edge in that lane. That's what it looks like.
Yeah, I mean still up in there though clearly both teams are comfortable actually get the edge in that lane that's what it looks like yeah i mean
still up in there though clearly both teams are comfortable with the matchup
so we have another game coming up in a second and it's possible that we're
going to see a key get crushed shortly after the next
game but we'll see what happens back to you guys so so so so so so I'm taking to go ahead and do that. so So. so so so so so We'll be right back. so so. so so ¶¶ so Are you ready?
Are you ready? Are you ready?
I came out
I came out so so I'm a man, I'm a woman, and I'm not
I'm only known as
I'm a man so uh I'm going to rematch against the game in Gladiators.
It's only one game that stands between them and that grand finals rematch that
we've seen so many times before in 2023 but yeah potentially it's different than 2024 either way
uh if you're a liquid fan maybe you can start getting your hopes up just slightly
but not too much because we don't know yet what is in store for game number two Draft Lacoste.
Yeah the big one for me was this Beastmaster going through
because this is the hero that team liquid had a
lot of success with they did win five out of six games and team liquid they just spent things
outside they were pretty much playing like they did until they met gaming gladiators
in the purple bracket finals it felt like it's all about the speed it's all about that tempo
and so far team liquid showing that even after losing to Gaming Gladiators they can still pick themselves up.
Come up with a really good draft and most importantly execute that draft.
This is our lessons learned. Sorry, I think you're right about that?
Yeah definitely there's a lot of lessons to be learnt here by Falcons but I do believe they can learn these lessons because
To me it did feel like their draft
just did not enable them at all
to fight once Team Liquid hit their timings.
And the two key things that come to mind
are the Beastmaster,
like Lacoste mentioned,
but also the Pango versus Sand King.
We've seen this a few times throughout
the tournament where san king players in theory think that
they should beat pango mid but pango at the very least goes even
with sand king and just plays a tempo game. He does not get shut down, so you definitely also
have to consider either taking it for yourselves
who are a pango team or not giving it away.
Yeah, Pango seems to have somehow slid under the radar in this tournament.
It's just never banned but everybody is picking it and winning with it
and it looks good.
Never banned?
That means it was never bad this year.
It's always good!
Never banned is a bit of a stretch, but very rarely it's not the most banned which I feel is that surprising aspect.
Yeah with the speed at which people play.
And I was thinking about something with regards to Team Liquid and 33 fitting in.
He was playing the Beastmaster last game.
So farm-intensive offlaner for at least a couple of items.
She has a Monkey King carry and a mid pango. These are heroes that
want to get active even Monkey King
while he does want to farm people are going through the portal
they're ganking side lanes so I almost
feel like part of 33 fitting in is actually the fact that
the meta has adjusted to the playstyle, that Liquid would naturally be more
comfortable with anyway. And speaking of 33, I mean Liquid banned
Doom in the first phase which is very
indicative of wanting to go for the Beastmaster
again because that's considered his counter
in this patch. Something
Falcons could do is just pre-take the Enchantress
so that way you're not worried about the Beastmaster
or they pre-take the Pango like we talked about.
They are a Pango team.
Malorine excels on this hero.
They can also play it offline on Amar,
but Beastmaster's still in the pool.
Pango is back maybe to being first pick there.
What a time! Like we tried
nerf this hero so many times
It didn't take long
Oh, Swatchbuck was bad? You know what? We're just gonna
play off Shield Crash instead.
But yeah, overall strong hero.
Nisha had an exceptional game in the previous one, dying only once.
Right itemization I gotta point out that Double Mage Slayer was kind of what shut down sinking timber saw as well they didn't get
the chance to have that explosive damage which you want to have from these two heroes
whoa i feel like it's been a very long time since we've seen this hero.
Yep, it has been first phase banalad but
This hero completely crushes pango
Like this is absolutely not an easy lane for pango
It's one of the hardest mid-lane matchups
for him, so
you might be looking at that offlane flex now
just to make your draft easier.
Do we think that
Liquid would be willing to run this as a carry on the SF?
Because that's what OG has been doing, or OG did.
It actually ran it... I think in almost every game, Tomato was the one playing it as a carry.
I prefer him to be played from the mid lane.
It's a good matchup. They can still flex this bangle. it as a carry. I prefer him to be played from the mid lane,
It's a good matchup they can still flex this pango to an offlane so you don't know
the match up completely but the hero i want to see get banned
is Spirit Breaker. I think this is the hero that causes quite a lot of issues for Shadowfiend, and we've
seen Shadowfeeds not going at least to mid
ones for the Yule Scepter instead
it's Blink, it's BKB
into Yashakaya so you still
have an issue to address and I think Spirit Breaker is the big one.
His charge also going through the VKB, which is a big question mark for me
why does it work that way? And also Nether Strike very annoying hero to deal with.
Yeah, that's a great callout Lacoste because that's exactly what happened and also Nether Strike. Very annoying hero to deal with.
And it's a great callout, Lacoste because that's exactly what happened actually
in the BB Team versus Tundra series
they ran mid SF on GPK
versus Thompson Sand King
and he got completely demolished.
But once that Dark Seer hit level 3,
got level 2 Ion Shell,
he put it on his Spirit Breaker,
Spirit Breaker charged mid,
they killed the Shadow Fiend
and Thompson was able to come back into the game off of that.
So, that's definitely something you should think about.
And also they're up-landing Doxy because he got the final hit with the Iron Shell.
It's tough to say because I don't think Falcons are that dark-seared team, so you're going
to have a very different offlane pairing which begs the question is Spirit Breaker still
as impactful if you're not really gonna be there present in that offlane when Team Liquid,
in Game 1 loved to shut down the offlane.
Amar was not able to get the ball rolling for himself on a big comfort hero.
Yeah, that is true. I would say for Falcons if I had to bet on it
I'd say it's more likely that they would rotate
the Pango to the offlane
to deal with the SF in a way.
And then pick something that's just better against the SF mid
and like a mid-to-mid matchup.
So looking at Malorin's heroes, mid to mid versus the SF.
A lot of his heroes are actually kind of countered.
Yeah, Tiny I guess because you can have a toss the SF out
and I think that was one of the better matchups versus sf just in
the game do you just sack lane and hope that you have high tempo supports that are wanting to run
with this support as well as either either an offlaner or carry
that creates the number advantage of four rolling.
I don't think Mal'Grim will ever sack the lane.
I could see like a final beast.
Well, we've got a couple questions about this,
but Purge himself does have...
I believe it's still Moon me understanding fire.
But either way let's hear some thoughts from those guys.
Yeah that's right, I'm here with Moon.
Moon what do you think about the draft so far?
So the Shadowiend pick is definitely
pretty meditated by Team Liquid.
The idea is that
they're gonna abuse the fact that Falcons
doesn't run a position for melee
roaming like a Spirit Breaker like we do against shadow fiend because that's
why counter shadow being like one roland the mid lane is gonna die even though he has a good matchup
okay what do you think about the j-caro pairing with it
you said this was uh one in sania's heroes, in the last draft?
Yes, so you've
submitted an ET ban and Sania has limited all
the way down to Jokiro, so they need to secure
his hero here. If they don't take their Jokiro here
Falcos might steal it because they played on position 4 and 5.
And then you're also talking about their need for a stun to set up the SFLT, right?
Yes. That's why I don't like the Elder Titan ban from Falcons
Because Liquid needs a stun
And only stuns in offlane at 33 places is Beastmaster
and Sand King. So I really felt like unless Falcons has a plan for Sand King 16-17.
Alright great, we'll throw it back to the panel. you purge moon giving out some ideas there they're
also a little bit worried about the off-lane pool of the side of team liquid so a lot of different
questions in this chess game that they're going for but this enchantress you mentioned
it in the pre-game fe you also mentioned in game one when it was banned out like here it is they're
prioritizing it to falcons want to pick up here yeah i think this is by far
like one of snake king's best heroes if not his last year in this tournament
because he's been making some really great plays
he wins his safe lane so hard and then i've seen him like send
centaur creeps alone through the twin gate to gank the
enemy carry while still staying on the lane to secure farm for his hair he's been doing really
cool things and in theory this enchantress with a Good Creep can rotate mid on this SF and dive this tower
and potentially be a means to shut him down.
So I love seeing these Enchantresses come out of Falcons because Team Liquid showed us yesterday
that they don't really have the best answers to Enchantress.
They ran a Nyx Assassin yesterday, it didn't look good for them,
it slowed down their pace a little bit too much,
so I would imagine they don't want to overreact to this Enchantress.
They could even pick something like a Crystal Maiden if they wanted to,
and that would honestly probably be enough.
I'd like the Siam.
I also don't mind the Nyx.
I just think that the way you have to play it is different.
Like, I think the issue that they had was
that they continued cutting the creep wave
After the enchantress left the lane
And went through the portal to gank the other lane
I think thats an issue
Oh i like this
Because then they carry free farms.
I like the Brewmaster even though Team Liquid didn't have much success with the hero
They are still 0 and 3
We've seen different builds on Brewmaster
And also I don't see any explosive damage one Falcon
So right now brew has a pretty guaranteed splits in a team fight shirt
They're still gonna pick, you know some heavy damage coming out
But also it's up to control. You have blink lasso you have pangolins
rolling thunder but you have an ice pad to follow it up maybe a requiem try to save brewmaster so
that he can get the split off. And looking at Falcons,
the two supports on their side,
they want to speed.
They want to have speed.
They want to be able...
I see Betrider.
I see Enchantress.
These heroes want to rotate early on.
They want to get them Shadow Fiend
and just dive tower
and get as many kills as possible.
So Team Liquid, they need to be able to punch back
they need a hero that can easily join some of these earlier fights
And that's going to be Marcy for now.
And you know TL take a page here out of OG and that's going to be Marcy for now.
And TL take a page here out of OG's book, they
love that Marcy Brule in but it also just
fits their playstyle so well. Bru is
just a great hero here to back up the soft given
that teamfight cushion. Also guru buying these auras is
going to make it so that shadow fiend himself is extra protective you also have now have this
sidekick damage amp but you can add to the shot of him later in the game
if the flex to carry is there and this is is a heavy dive line, Marcy plus Groot.
I've seen it like dive carries level 3 and just win those over and over again
so pretty scary coming out of Team Liquid
but I still think that this Enchantress
will and can do a lot on that lane.
The way you play against Brew, you want to
be able to kill the Brulings, maybe Sven,
maybe Gyrocopter again. I want to see some
explosive damage. These are also bkb carries
i would prefer sven probably because you also want to have something to jump this
that doesn't get owned by this lane That can burst
And I feel like you want to pick your carrier
Because the pool is getting too small
That is the perfect pick
In my opinion.
It counters both of these heroes and it's the burst we talked about.
Well look Jenkins, it's not just your opinion that we're getting here
We are going to head on back down to Purge and Moon for some more words from them
Alright Moon they didn't grab a Sand king to initiate with the sf do you think
the marcy or the brewer are going to be good enough the marsy pick is against the enchantress
because we want to melee for his enchanted because enchanters just uh trades way too well
i'm not worried about team liquid because their only initiations because Enchantress just trades way too well. I'm a little worried for Team Liquid
because their only initiation is the Marci jump.
After the nerf, Marci needs like level seven
to have reliable initiation
and with heroes like SF and Jekyll
those heroes really need setup.
How's the Falcons draft looking otherwise?
The Falcon's draft looks very solid. They have a solid initiation of Varadar Blink Lasso later in the game
they have strong teamfight with Pangolier
And this time they are safely
and looks a lot better.
Last time, last game
they had AA into Beastmaster
that's why the Gyrocopter died
in lane I felt
And this game is Enchantress Troll World War
Now this is monster ass lane All right great well we'll send it back to the
panel thank you guys moon also reminding us about uh this sand king that it's still in the pool
it could go for either side at the moment because we really don't know if that sf is gonna
go mid if it's going to go to uh the safe lane and seeing with that pango as well it's still just
as flexible so now it feels like maybe a game of chicken. Have they lost faith in the Sand King?
And what Liquid, or as we've seen as a counter, Tiny is also still in that pool.
Both of them either going to be completely ignored
or potentially picked up in the last phase.
Last pick for Team Liquid, and this one
they're still gonna cover the bases, ban Io
because they think it's
maybe Marcy as a carry
but there are two heroes that I'm looking forward to
that's either Windranger
or maybe Vengeful Spirit
as a carry just so that you have
swap against this duel, against
this Bat Rider Lasso as well.
And you can also...
Because you get the Agonim Scepter,
you don't care too much
about swapping yourself in.
And Wind Ranger also
good matchup against Trolls,
good against Batpango
rolls in with the BKB Focusfire.
You can bring some of these heroes relatively easy down.
I love this LC because Amara was always busting out this LC
like in games where you don't think about it or you don't remember but it does great
here for the reason of killing the screen master this remaster is currently the crux of tl's fight
and moon mentioned you know from the audience that they're going to have good
initiation in the Lasso, but the Lasso
is too short duration and like you mentioned
Lacoste not enough explosive damage
But if you get the follow-up duel on the Brewmaster
That will be enough damage to kill this
brew. It's 10 seconds. And it's like
one of the only offlanes you feel comfortable blindpicking.
It's an interesting
flex of the asset to carry
against the Legion because in
lane, Legion is a melee
hero. You can get the triple raise. It is very
strong against the SF
or SF is strong against Legion in lane but in the game
an SF carry will feed
a Blade Mail Legion
duel 100% of the time.
So this means Liquid
is confident that they
can snowball the game
to the point where
that doesn't matter or
that they're going
to win that lane so
hard that the SF
will have enough
items that he can
deal with that.
I also think troll
against SF carry is
good as well this
isn't a ballsy flex
in my opinion.
Not just that,
you're playing against
Enchantress
who's going to go
through that tower
and through the Twin Gate
and dive your carry
and SF cannot defend himself
against the neutral creep
diving him.
That's very scary that's a very bold flex by Liquid here. It is a very scary looking draft from
Falcons I think they adjusted themselves to what they needed after seeing what happened in game number
one much stronger lanes especially the safe lane
Troll Enchanters. You don't lose that lane
there's not enough explosive damage
it is a strong offlane but I don't think
its strong enough to beat this lane and also
LC as Jenkins pointed out if think if he's off to a good
start, if they make a rotation to his
lane, he's going to be able to get those
Blink Duel, Blade Mail
damage early on into the game
and can easily snowball from that.
All eyes on Amar, as if that hasn't been said before.
Exactly!
I like it storyline-wise as well we've come full circle he brought out the Legion Commander
on day number one of groups
against Team Spirit. It wasn't successful
there, he still tried it here or
there and there's been mixed results for himself
but they're on the verge of elimination
whilst they've made it to top three,
I'm sure they want to make it to grand finals.
We're going to see if this Legion commander works out
and they're able to bounce back
but first some words from Allie and Purge.
Hey, how are you feeling about the draft so far um decent i guess like last game was pretty
rough for us so this game is mostly like recovery and we had to like start coping it up because that
game was pretty bad it didn't look the best, what's up with the Legion offlane?
It's a hero that you guys are picking semi-consistently and no one else touches it.
I don't know we just think like it has a place
it's like pretty good secure they'll. They'll probably swap the lanes this
game but then they have Shakira versus Ench which hopefully we can pressure with true ench
and if not then his spells won't really do much to Legion. I think Amar is one of the players that
can take over a game on this hero. So I think maybe
it's a bit overvalued by us, maybe it's a bit undervalued by other
teams, I don't really know but we found decent games
with this hero. Is it difficult to force
Amar to play conventional offlaners?
I don't think so.
He does them sometimes, but he is the Slark player
The Legion player
I'm seeing a pattern here
He just keeps telling us to pick him Ursa with Battle Fury
and Sven Offlane
So maybe it's a bit hard but we just
you know it's easy. Just say no. Alright great
Reign of Men. Nice job. Will good luck in your match
Thank you
Here we go ladies and gentlemen getting into the action of game two between team liquid and team falcons uh and indeed as discussed there and as we saw on the draft this time
falcon's opting to go for that amar legion commander to end his
campaign are on the draft this time falcons opting to go for that amar legion commander to end things up
here what do you make of this one i just find it funny how curtis says you know sometimes
you have to reign him in but sometimes you do have to let a marge just let your margo
because he can't just do these type of incredible stuff it looks looks like a pretty interesting the game. I think it's a good thing that they're going to
let him go. And then you know,
he can't just sit there and
marches Let your Margo because
he can just do these type of
incredible stuff. It looks
looks like a pretty interesting
one. I'm not sure how strong
it does look in particular
overall is that hard lockdown?
I think that they did want versus the brewmaster as the game does go down. But speaking of lockdown,
this is a last pick puck
versus some limited disables
early on
until they do itemize
for something like an Orchid
which we probably will see
from Malveen early.
It'll be tough
to catch this puck.
Crip.
He's trying to firefly away but the
slows are coming in anywhere can they give it to one of the cores
they can't boxy will take it but its first blood nonetheless here all
liquid so the void stance even coming out there from
the brewmaster for the extra slow nisha trying to scout stuff out we'll just
jump away so yeah getting that first blood haven't seen crit really played
the bat rider too much i don't this is one this is actually his
first one this tournament he used to play a lot even in earlier this year but it did get some
nerfs and he hasn't touched it and now he's at the skill firefly level which is usually not the thing
you want to get you usually want to either have Flame Break or
have that Sticky Napalm to secure the lane, so
see if that has any type of repercussion
for how Amari's going to end up doing versus this
SF and this Jakiro lane. And yeah,
Liquid overall, they had a pretty explosive game so let's see how falcon is
kind of just adapting that early game so i can make it to some of these later stages
you're gonna jump over the walls making they're going to drive for this got the speed up indeed
boxing out above mickey up getting the movement speed to keep his distance
skida on the other side of the map he's gonna chase down liquid they're gonna get themselves a second kill
whilst the rest of falcons were trying to chase for a kill themselves, but
unsuccessfully Falcons. 2-0
to start this one off going the way of Liquid. Yep, and
they are doing the switch up of the lanes. So Insania
he is avoiding that matchup at
bottom. He is going up toward top versus the Enchantress with the Bruin
Strong lane, either way with the Bruin and J'Kyro
we'll see how much the end-snaking can do to
protect Skeeter in this one
And bottom! It's a strong lane too!
This is not something to laugh at by any means.
It's a hero that can provide quite a lot for Shadow Fiend.
And something I was looking at perhaps with this Marcy pick also
is just getting the sidekick buff up always for the SF
could allow him to just fight back through some of these heroes that can
sometimes be annoying. So yeah, we'll have
to see how all that does kick off
and CS also, the other thing we do have to mention
is the priority of Pangolier
last game it made it all the way to the last pick maureen they went back
to just snap picking up for him i mean with a hero being shown off the way it was last game
by nisha conservative having this prioritized earlier in the
draft and then Maureen can also give us a crazy
game on it. Yep! And right away he's already
off to a 3-3 start does get the
deny onto that range creep there very nicely done
pulling the aggro now something about the puck you know in
the early game your base damage is pretty low in particular to be able to get these guaranteed cs
versus these universal heroes that just go to stats. Snake King.
Just like when he puskied it to hold back 33 and the heals were out from Snake King.
And we'll see how Nisha does
in this matchup because this does not feel easy for him
at all.
Maureen's really
taking advantage of... He's doing something pretty
cool, so I've seen a lot
of these heroes picked lately versus the Pango
to try to dodge the shield crashes and stuff
like that. I've seen the phase shift, even some Void Spirits
He's not doing the double jump! He's doing the single jumps
just to connect the damage onto Nisha
which is pretty cool
Just little things to point out in the lane that maybe could give him
another Rainscreep deny That is quite a bit of them the lane that maybe could give him that edge another range group tonight that is
quite a bit of them i think that's two or at least two
beautiful beautiful stuff from him so far here. I mean, overall...
He gets locked up here by a mark
and we'll allow him to get out.
As you say, definitely big kill potential
from Liquid if they are able
to find the setup
with the Moss.
He's going to line up
for raises from Midcac.
Yeah, that's also why
perhaps they did want
this Legion Commander.
They expected
the flex that could come out
and stuff.
They do have a dispel
versus these raises
on top of everything too
so even if they do get a couple stacks you can't
dispawn perhaps go aggressive so so far ammar farming very nicely down here
struggling be a time Nisha. Struggling! We have time for him to catch up once he starts getting some more stat items in particular versus the pango.
Yeah, Maureen.
Gonna have a good start on the Panglear.
He just keeps landing. I think he's landed every
shield crash on him actually. Another one where
he does this single shield crash and hits them.
He's had up.
Yeah although he's not playing versus the most of disables in the game they can itemize since i was mentioning
you know the orchid that we've seen popularized on these pangos a lot when you play versus the pocket
another range creep tonight how many was that
i think that was four or five i mean i think he's gotten like four at least
four or five of these range kryptonites
crazy stuff already seeing the difference in levels already he's got a half level advantage almost
top lane 33. continue to farm pretty well but again for this slang you know the knives coming in from skeeter definitely quite a lot of denies in this lane
there's a lot of deniers across the board we have 26 denies just on the course
incredible down his thank you he's going to try and chase for the kill so stick charges are there
for insane damage to take him out i had to keep this
i'm keeping my eyes on bottom because it feels like a kill could come out in
pretty quickly at any moment if they do make some type of missteps
mickey has prioritized boots nice and early on so does have the way to reset
away from
the repositioning that comes out from the back rider difficult scan top of
this SF travel market just with a raise is out misspelled
we'll keep them safe now crit trying to fight back
just a fire flying onto foxy boxy he's gonna set us very low and then put a few
more races ready to throw it back out some folks eat will be kept safe both teams falling pretty low though between the two of them
skidder now getting aggressive going on him 33. what's the clap enough healing he was bested a block them off
then return stick charge another seat shot
you got enough damage here not Not quite. 33 will live.
But protecting his carry, getting those heals up onto him, Skeeter.
They're out of regen up here for now.
Yeah they actually have no regen up here anymore for Skeeter
so Skeeter does have to be a little cautious with the next potential ghost
since 33 is
resetting he's healing up with a healing cell
so eyes on the troll warlords hp
let's see snake does get another one of these Warpine Raiders to try and get this Harassment again.
Insania?
Far off.
Maybe feeling that they can...
There goes a little Snake in them
as soon as their level 2 heal two here now yeah i like you guys
i mean we see a lot of this of course just raindrop
just all stat into raindrop just so you can tank through that burst damage that
could potentially hurt the enchantress skater still stones very low but
getting this good cs
insane amount of denies 31 denies across the board here for the side of falcons and now at the moment it's what 19 i think my math is quick on the course
on the side of Team Liquid.
So yeah, prioritizing on lane a lot here
as Malvin lifts the mid.
He's got the six.
So Power Rune,
see how they look to contest it
versus this Pango.
They're much stronger opening from falcons this time around he's saying
here he's going to try and tpl make it mario not able to get him with
enough burst also could tell you a much stronger performance here from falcons in the lanes here
yeah you heard it from ali in particular right they went for something a little bit
more standard stuff that they have played before even though i said the crit hasn't
played it in this tournament he
has played the bat quite a bit you know in comparison to they did try that aa which was
a little bit of a reach that they wanted to go for here and now just tried to re-establish
things in the lanes two kills for liquid but the lane's new set for poppins looking good
alvin and marin have hit the sixes definitely chance for plays to be
made around the side lanes i mean mean, would you imagine that's
kind of where these mids are going to be looking
or could even team bring a support
to the mid lane to try and gain?
I think Nisha more than likely wants to play around bottom
but there's definitely potential for something like Boxy getting a TP
and if they can break the coil in particular
with the Dispose then maybe they have enough
to bring down Mal'Rin. It's not easy though because these
Pangos just are quite tanky nowadays
They go up with this Bracer into just treads and they have like 1400 hp very
early on snaking making this rotation that he likes to do on the edge mickay has read it
but the heels there They're enough.
He's able to keep Snake safe, turning back over
to Wadson gets the stun set up onto McKay and he's going
try for some body blocks but McKays
able to get around the center
and get out. He'll get the ob's ward though, Sneh
and he will look to continue pressuring this
as zone the SF off from the waves
It's a nice move
Sometimes we do see him and Skeeter make
the move through that portal for Falcons
at the 7 minute mark with snaking somebody is
sticking himself up top so they're trying to take advantage of that trying to bully the troll
and get enough damage onto him though one charge is to play with.
The turn of the slow on to 33 and one charge is out for Skeeter.
He won't be dove here.
A little bit worried about the threat
of backup coming in for him.
Nicely done.
Skeeter even surviving
the potential go liquid trying to take advantage of that movement that comes
out from the inch now rain makes them move bottom this
tower it's gonna go down so now they'll have easier ways to invade versus this
sf so this lane is definitely gone pretty well they're
going to sell it to just try and find some action here as they go for crit i'll try
and fly away but he's got the control necessary so slowly but surely bring the bat
rider down so third kill to be found but the slow start continues in the farm with falcons it goes
uh completely untouched yeah Yeah, but Nisha has
completely recovered after that.
You know, Maureen
made the move bottom
and now Nisha's actually
200 goals ahead of him
with just that move
and just getting these extra CS
plus working on that stack
that he was doing
just below him
in that mid lane.
So,
pretty good recovery
even though they did lose that
getting some kills.
Yep.
How do you like this build
from 33 right where
he goes for the
mech rush
on the brood?
I think we're going to see
this more in pretty much every game of
the bruises as we saw from gaming this just seems like a winning strategy for it
snake driving infrastructure does have the split
if he wants to commit to the fight.
For two of them, it's a tough one to take.
In fact, he may be forced to use it to get out.
We'll see how much he is ready to rely on
the movement speed provided by Foxy.
He's way too fast.
Indeed, it's too much for Maori to chase the drug master
zooming around me ship starts getting a bit of pressure on from this time okay
amazing more different defines poster farm here and do you could be to get a bit of pressure on for the mid-town okay
the more equivalent defines poster farm here indeed with the early tier one being taken they have they have their ultis at the ready here so even though maureen makes the rotation top
doesn't find a successful rotation with the Rolling Thunder.
Liquid can look to punish him.
Something we do definitely have to talk about for Liquid is they have some incredible wombo combo teamfight.
They've got the Dream Coil with the SF ulti to break it.
They've got the Brewmaster as well, plus Jekiro
to follow up. It's a lot of team fight.
So sometimes in these fights, it could just be overwhelming
for Falcons.
Looking for a fight around here.
Get the Dream Coil down onto the two of them.
Do they have to pull out damage? He's ready to get the Dreamcore down onto the two of them. Do they have to pull up damage?
But Amar's coming in from the side, he's ready to start the fight
as it goes into Insania.
Successfully win the duel.
33 is attempting to fight back looking towards Kripp
and Kripp took to the high ground with a Firefly.
Boxyz are able to jump up, throw him back over his shoulders back looking towards crit fritz up the high ground with a firefly pop see they
have to jump up throw him back over his shoulders
crit he's continues to be trying an awkward spot
mckay he's going to be able to walk across crit i don't think he's getting
out this is a good effort from Crit to try and survive.
Nice try.
But he will fall, they get the kill one for one.
Falcons, they take that dual damage up.
Yep, they bring four heroes maybe even
the fifth was rotating over now just
four heroes to rotate over to counteract liquids there
not quite having the levels on the J'Kyro right now
I guess she didn't even check out the Wisdoms this time around
sorry about that
We see him up
He's coming back They're gonna try for the seven CMR record has not been bad
the Legion Commander
they're going to
drive for the setup
into the Requiem
a couple of raises
to come in
not quite enough
to kill Amar off though
big new catches
boxy too
that actually
brings him down
pretty huge and it helps us on
the timings for safe NSF on me cable
what part so what a part progress in
building you really look at getting
forward you get this master madness then
the next time and then are
you fighting like do you really try and fight with the
master madness alone because of the sidekick maybe but what
level was it might only be level one you always want to max the rebound yeah
that's level one so maybe when he gets dragon lance with
that could be some type of timing i think they're probably gonna look to
fight around whenever he has requiem in particular
sure yeah we've got good setup for it yeah i mean
tower pressure mid their bount they're getting away with a lot of this push and
then it took me fairly to one tap bottom deep now in the
mid lane there being able to bring that one down as well
yeah power up your enchantress is marvel tip 33. wonder what that one was for maybe because
he didn't show up for a kill yet with the brew master split or something who knows
the mind games always will be there and i know you like this that mask of madness on the sf
oh yeah i like it it feels great to build a farm from camp to camp
even when you fight we've been seeing seven sfs have they been going over these builders
you still get safe plan ss doing the like the yashakaya have we had it have
we had this in any games wait i mean we probably
had one right now i could go back and look a little bit but
i can't remember if we have seen one i think we've only really seen the
yoshikai or the blink and even some rules and stuff from like
the mids but yeah power root nisha there's a lasso they have their cotton graft with
the lasso into the fuel nicely done yeah they're getting some nice wins here mark end of the duel. Nicely done.
Yeah, they're getting some nice wins here.
A couple of duels, a couple of successes
he's getting the plus damage.
Getting the kills early on in the puck
are definitely important too
to be able to get the itemization and stuff
to catch him since there could be
some limited disables later.
You can't run away from this, caught by the shield crash
of Malorina, double kill for the
Panga! Falcons playing fast
in this game. Much better than Game 1.
And on the meanwhile it is skitter just farming top
and he is going to go down the route of this maelstrom build so
he wants to look to fight early the gleitner probably the choice of course
too so it does feel like falcons have kind
of switched the mold a little bit this game just looking to pressure a lot more yeah i mean yeah i'm not obviously a fan
of the right click sf but uh i do have doubts i have some doubt
i don't blame you sometimes it can be very vulnerable versus especially
something like a pango who could just crawl in on top of you and if you don't have bkb
it can look weird and sometimes you pop the bkb they just reset and then kind of dance on yourself
even when you're doing the right click sf you still
don't put points in feasts or souls then i guess you can put one point sometimes but
because it's a lot of attachment about indeed losing the five soils at the end feels
kind of bad oh yeah next're actually reminding me i think we
did see a tomato shadow team now gonna actually look it up yeah check it out i'm pretty sure
when you're doing this sort of build master madness dragon lance they're kind of essential
sure and then it's up to you where
you want to go after that?
Probably BKB, even though
sometimes it feels like
a false cloud on its face
It's just your playing versus Pango
so you feel necessary to do it
Sometimes I guess
You do it and then it's like
wow this is a bad choice
but sometimes it's just necessary
i'm going through all these games to see when how many i think we actually
had quite a bit of them but it was quite a few days ago that we
can see yeah i think even maybe is this again what
i'm thinking east, maybe right now.
Whatever.
Falcons are prepared for the fight around
their 14 minute power runes.
Contesting every single one of these runs.
Nisha does find the amped damage damage this time just to coil onto one
now they'll take it here comes the ball i'll be able to find something in return they're going
to look over what's boxing box he's going to get caught by the rolling
thunder into the duel another kill here for a mark good move trade of supports but yeah
those duels starting to rack up blade now it's not finished up too sorry mr
definitely seen that this is working key problem key problem hockey's oh okay
this has been uh pretty flawless stuff from Amar so far.
Last pick looking good, 2-0-1.
Three duels a success.
And we're getting you know very nice at least early even start
kind of going on here. Both teams are
farming under carries. The mid lanes are both doing
pretty even. The offlaners are
pretty even. Same for the support. So so far
things are culminating nicely here.
So you see that. Mac, of course
from 33 was trying to be... You know, they
tried to get a better fight out of it because of that but
it ended up just being that trade
have to commit quite a bit to just kill
the Enchantress. Yeah.
And that was also Rolling Thunder
with the blink reveal,
so Malrean did show
that he's going to go
blink this game
instead of going down
that Orchid route
that we have seen
versus the Puck
a lot of times.
I think Blink's way better.
I like it too.
You don't care about
the Puck, you just care about the putt,
You just care about making this Shadow Fiend's life miserable.
Yeah.
And there's going to be multiple ways
that they can get on top of Mikkei in their teamfights.
Obviously with his buildup and the Mastermind's Dragonlance
now looking for the Manta Hurricane fight, he doesn't want to get the bkb that might be a problem because if
it gets jumped by this rolling thunder you know legion is able to run up and get a duel on you
i mean just it's a situation where you kind of you don't want to get the bkb because
they can't just reset off you and then you can get dual through it and you can get last
sold through it so there's answers for it so you can understand why mickey does want
to go down for sure for sure it's the correct build it's just it's definitely i'd say
the more difficult position to play in this sort of game absolutely and uh what was his mckay
so far so good he is yet to die on the shadow fiend
and he does have protection right
he does have they don't actually have a point in ice
path that's a bit surprising from insanity i guess we'll get it at eight
but they'll have ice path they'll have the coverage of the brilliant stuff
that potentially protect them and sidekick once there's more levels
so if he's able to start,
If he's able to hit,
He's going to be healing up an absolute treat
with the amount of damage
how high the damage output is gonna be from the SF
And that's probably kind of the idea
That they're going for why he skips BKB
because they'll have these auras and
this buff up just so they can stand his ground eventually maybe he'll have to get one but yeah
wanting to want it to start as long as possible because of those vkb piercing abilities is
falcons smoked up everything is ready they've got that blink and even he's done it again maureen
he goes for the shard so i've seen this multiple times from him also where he gets blank in just a
shot to control people yeah absolutely cool if marines identify the bsm of the i think it's cool if mario is how to identify the
bsf of the team fights it's going to be a very tough mid game for liquid
snaking just happen to tank through this he's going to try and throw out
some raises taking just sort of chilling in the
on the ponds here i'm gonna make a jump back over to him
he's gonna get dispelled by amara dreamcocks gonna get laid down
am i looking for you're gonna be able to find it do they have DreamCop's gonna get laid down. Amar, look at the duel up here!
He's gotta be able to find it!
Do they have to bring it down?
It is!
That's what they do!
Again, every duel here being won by Amar on the Legion
that one only just but he gets it
Sna1t is just baiting them like crazy this heel
is insane i think i mean we've seen this a lot from these engines but
they don't have the way to burst him and then he gets pressy attacked and
33 gets put in an awkward position it's just a natural duel there from mar
that blade mail it's done and he's getting closer and closer to blank yeah he's crushing
him we'll see this fight earlier over in the river i guess you're going to see the
duals right now
and this is And are we going to get the one we just had? No, we aren't.
This was quite a bold duel because you never know against the bros.
Like, can we kill this guy?
Because sometimes they do get
the void stance off, right?
Yeah.
And that duel lasts like
a quarter of a second
or something like that
or half a second so it does catch something like that, or what? Like half a second.
So does catch him into that Earth Brawler
wasn't able to get
that status resistance onto himself yet.
Perfect stuff so far from Amar
the last pick is working out so far here
and it's that one in particular
is the most important one one they're able to do if they can catch the brew and first him before the split
that's gonna allow them to win most of those early team fights even though
their versus womple combo teams fight from liquid they are well i don't know it is a close game on the
numbers five to five top lane they're gonna try for snake maybe now he's on his own they can burst
him nice and cleanly they can't
i deal with these challenges very quickly in a position like that boxy's
i know boxes yeah he tends to be the strongest one versus this attention says
as marcy always wanted that fast attack speed, or just some super high magic damage
to be able to bring this hero down.
Crit, he's got the blink done,
so very good timing
that he's been able to find on it.
Even though he's 0-3,
he's been able to get a good mount out of it.
I'll stretch the Rokeshine here for for liquid they go pretty quick of course with the right click sf okay
yep so late going down the raises maybe it's maybe a bit on i mean they throw
the scan but i don't know if they make it there
anytime in time and maori he's not really in a shape to get over there
i guess you've got the ball in the arcane room but uh yeah making this sort
of move try to make it it's yeah it's not
it's not going to come nearly fast enough this roshan is
going down they can fight them outside of the top perhaps if they see you
without flying into an aegis pretty strong falcons even though i said the gold these
pretty close uh their heroes are
pretty strong right now with tons of them here skaters gone for the fighting
code which i love this game just like light near to be able to join his team
and get aggressive oh they're going from 33. so they can burst him excellent
angle on the rolling thunder a beautiful start to
fight from falcon to maori he's already onto the back lines you never get the jump one of
the two of them liquid this could be a tough fight for them to turn without their fruit
that right okay take the Requiem off,
look at the pushback Snakey
and the Macropire is healing up
but he will get pulled back into
the Macropire there by Foxy
because something in return...
They used a lot.
They did use all three ultis
to make sure that they got the Brewmaster,
and he is coming back soon.
So Falcons have to be careful how they reset here.
And I imagine they are just going to look to run since
they did commit everything to kill Brew.
And they will.
Great stuff from Falcons, just being able
to realize that they can kill this
Brew, they can kill 33 at the start of
a team fight. They get a chance
to jump in every single time.
Nisha is getting a lot though, I'm just watching how much he's farming and
you know as i keep it i will keep mentioning just because lack of control
that could potentially be problems i've seen some of these pucks if they get
to licking they also turn into carries so just always have to watch that
and they did prioritize giving him the ages too
so really trying to make sure that nisha can get to that point it seems like
falcons with this triple blink they definitely want to look to play fast even if they're playing
at the ages they want to look to just get on top of this sf and sandwich them absolutely i mean
i think that's what makes this game very exciting in terms of b the SF because it really is sort
of a make or break here in this position,
but either Mikke doesn't get jumped he's able to just tear
through the team fights and get a Requiem off
and slice through heroes with incredible physical damage he's going to be able
to do, or he gets jumped
fully controlled and dies at the start of the fight
which absolutely can happen.
His positioning and Liquid as a team
they have to be absolutely prepared
to do everything to keep these heroes off the shadowfield.
Yeah, and Sopar?
Sopar not bad.
He hasn't died.
But he hasn't turned up too many fights, right?
I just thought of that one up there where he recrims and runs away we're yet
to sort of see him really get stuck in and start to kill the heroes on the team
and also they've you know they've not really gone for him fully as well but they probably
they want to get 33. they have to make sure the bruce blitz
doesn't go down so yeah i think because i think my concern is what's up falcons when they had
the bkb on skeeter he can just kind of pop ekv right there run towards mckay pop his ult and then what's
mickey gonna do it's going to be difficult it's got to try to stay in this ground yeah
sure that's kind of a concept though right like they want to be able to just brute force through those fights with
the sustain since i have quite a bit of auras and stuff so coil at two. Amar's been caught.
That's a very good start here for Nisha.
And they're going to jump onto Amar,
the beautiful setup from Nisha
to get them the legion kill
for what has been their first time this game
and finally able to take out amar
if we can get the clothes in onto snake you may get a drag back with
the waning rift do they want to die at this place
yes i mean hey the thing is mkey's not squishy that's one thing also
he's got a lot of stats and i'll tell you what the thing is as well i feel this is a game as
well if if the shadow finn if mickay's getting jumped and he is put under
pressure they've kind of got there's not other tools on the Marcy
he's ready to carry a game if some of his calls get punished
he's close to be keeping yeah this some of his calls get punished. He's close to BKB.
This is probably one of the earlier...
We haven't been seeing the rush of the BKBs as much.
They're even prioritizing it.
Look at this, they're giving him the last hits.
I like it too because they're making sure that they have
three different types of forms of carries Yeah, I like it too. Because they're making sure that they have this
three different types of forms of carries
because at some point, yeah,
MikkeN will probably die
at least once in this game
and then they need to have the puck
and DeMarcy
to be able to bring things back.
My concern really is that
you know
The 33 is falling
A little bit behind
But I think that's
Why they're giving
Boxy
That extra bit of farm
Absolutely
Because
33
He's the
Eora by this game
You know
This isn't
Radiance
And scaling
Brew It's The brew That you said You know We've you know this isn't a radiance and scaling brew it's uh the bruise that
you said you know we kind of like to see it been working out with some of the
other teams uh with this sort of approach is getting
agrees getting uh normally what the pipe for the crimson game, Of course he's up to the Crimson.
It's going to be that more effective.
The win rate has not been great for him.
Not for him but for Ace in particular who is
Been the one doing this build it has been beautiful.
It absolutely works when you do have a support
and a player like boxy on his marcy who can scale indeed that's ready to start
doing the scaling himself late game marsi can be
you know you're killing the cause on your own sometimes yeah especially like an engine even a pango if you do find them in a good position
there to be able to bring him down yeah we'll have to see whose idea was right right i thought
we hear that a lot from these players nowadays it's just like
which idea is going to be right is it going to be the troll that gets on the sf isn't
gonna be the multi-scaling but from liquid and stuff like that it's an interesting one to see
he's in trouble yeah Yeah they're doing it because
they want to get the push back as well
with their Referee and an incredibly dead Pangolier
caught out on his own there
at the corner of the map
And that's yet Boxy been able
to pretty much finish off
that BKB this Aegis
It's been working really well
versus the triple blinks
it seems like it slowed down falcon's potential aggression that they wanted to do versus it and
they've gained a decent amount out of their 2k lead at least during that ages timing absolutely
getting these yeah but the kills against these
two cores for Amar and then now
onto Mal'Rini who's yet to die this game
And I just keep clicking on Mikke
He's got Hurricane, it's all these stat items
he's got 3000 HP and if he gets the lincolns then he has
protection versus the legion do on the bat right i mean it just goes to show like
mickey how fast he's farming this is a game in which you know charles did not
get a bad time on the maelstrom.
But already there's a 3K gold difference between the two carries.
I mean as you say maybe it's just he's going to be so far ahead that even if they do get on top of him
He might be able to fight through it.
He's just going to be that tanky That he can survive long enough
And indeed, be able to fight back
Definitely a possibility
It's massive
Because the other thing we always have to talk about too is
I mean, it has to be talked about in this meta
Is Auras versus not-Auras
One draft is going to have pretty much all of them and the other one it might not
have too many i see that he's going for crimson guard on a mark that's what we're catching
yes he has another dual win for him eyes back in action perfect timing
they're gonna try and punish him by boxing gets the jump in the only shout as well ready to start
pummeling into them off he's going to get dragged back and taken out a marble ball
mickey turns up gets the kill more money for him extra soul that's true
with this ball this game he's going to start extending that max cap and he's gonna be we have
to talk about the 20 talent since usually it's not at it
just yet but that 20 talent is going to add
a ton of damage as well on top of him having
Aura's life steal etc.
Perfect catch though for Falcons. That's a very ideal
timing that they can catch because it was right after the A just gets
reclaimed, it's right before this puck is able to
get that Lincoln's finish up, so it was a good catch
They do lose Amar for it, but it's good to
slow down that momentum that's coming from the puck too
Ha ha ha ha ha that's coming from the puck too.
This is exactly what we hoped to see for these two teams.
Both teams are hitting their timings
that they probably do want to have,
so we'll have to see who's right as Skeeter finds an AMP damage with his BKB done.
So this is a fight the Falcons wants to look for.
Absolutely, they want to try and find a fight, especially with the amplified damage.
I kind of just want to see skidder
going straight for the sf if you've seen micka at the start as well just get on top of him
absolutely agree
because i think despite the fact that mickey does have a lot of farm
the troll in his face especially with an amp damage could still be an issue.
During the BKB. I think once the BKB ends...
He has to make sure that the BKB is off.
Split second.
That was close.
30 seconds, Roche.
Honestly,
Poxy's going to have a pretty good answer for Troll Raid
if he's able to get this Basher on top of the BKB
If he BKBs
Poxy unleashes and just starts hitting the troll whilst
Skeeter is trying to get on top of the cores
It's just gonna constantly been interrupting the troll's damage output during
his bkb which he says crucial months where skidder needs to be killing heroes because
as soon as that bkb is gone he's gonna have problems yeah there's gonna be an unbelievable
amount of disabled and if he doesn't get BKB off right at the start
of these fights, the Brew,
if he does gets splits up also will just throw him in
the air and a lot of these situations.
Now this is gonna be really interesting
to see once those big fights do kickoff
because as we said Womble Combo for the side
of Liquid.
But Falcons have good ways to just initiate and start maybe pop a hero until Lincolns come out,
which are almost doubled now on
Liquid. So they'll have Lincolns on Nisha,
Lincolns almost done on Mikke mickey and they have now the crimson guard
on 33 and there's no troll ice so there's no dispel for this crimson
guard this time around not yet it's gonna take some time
and damage is popped on tip the high ground get some sort of reaction out a liquid look what they're gonna have that over pretty quickly speed is
to be taking this down pretty fast the fortification has to come out with
like a high-ground now rain I need you to get cool first's put them at the high ground.
They break the link and they're undercached! He's in for the BKB, popped the battle card straight over one.
Boxy gets off the turn!
Boxy still surviving, finally falls!
Marwin jumps over there off the cliff here.
Mika ready to stand.
And then Mika can start hitting back now.
Now the BKB and the Battle Card has come come to an end steve has got nothing to save himself
mark will try and run manisha jumps forward
they're going to be able to catch him as well liquid
ready for the fight there able to take it and a beautiful style there on
the high ground maurin he gets away but they caught him at the start of it
he gets pretty much nothing off yeah he has to run and it took them
it took them a long time
to bring down Boxer
even though they got the duel
They broke the Lincolns
and there was no follow-up whatsoever
It took too long in this fight
We're seeing that liquid lineup
of everything coming together
You know, they have
kind of like three cores
in a way to be able
to deal with each one
of the damage.
And he just took Skinner
so long to really
threaten Foxy.
Yeah.
Foxy lived through this
for a very,
very long time.
Crimson, as you said,
perched just before this fight fight making it that much more difficult for
falcon 3 find anything in return they just get boxy and they're not able to do anything about
the other cores and no one roaches up and They can kill it incredibly fast.
Absolutely, they're going to check it out a little too early
and spawns afterwards.
They are making the play instead.
They have ward.
That ward is despawning.
They're trying to make an aggressive play on top of it
for a second perhaps.
I think if they would've checked back then aggressive play on top of it for a second perhaps i think if
they would have checked back then they would have gone for it because they still have like
40 seconds to kill it before it moves and yeah with the damage that mckay's team is doing
they would about them well and if falcons get it now they have 30 seconds to kill it though
oh he's gone into something boxing he's gonna put the bkp i mean literally they're not afraid
of fighting they're not super strong the dual is going to come out but the right skier super strong the dual's gonna come out
but the old head skiers you have a crimson guard slowly take your poxy down he's barely able to
tell him take boxing that boxy survives skeeter goes down jump forward onto snaking liquid they're
gonna take the fight again they're smashing these fights this crimson is demolishing
the troll he doesn't do any damage he really isn't he's falling behind massively now for
the way that last few fights have gone
9k lead now for liquid nisha wants more
but probably can't continue chasing
forward here they can go back to that
rush malrine trying to shove some
wings up some lanes out but these are two massive fight with the high ground they know that skater
is not going to be any sort of shape to buy back. There's no glyph.
A beautiful couple of fights from...
They're going tier fours.
They know there's
no glyph.
Oh, oh, they are!
And Mickey just hit 20
so his damage
is through the roof.
I mean,
this kid is not
gonna have buyback that likely they might just
be able to end it and then there's some i think they can end it they've got a new server now
because chris going to jump in tomorrow he's going to get right into the business
of fighting again the crimson is pumped they just don't have the damage to fight
through these grips and the time foruras have been perfect for Liquid!
The Tier 4s are falling, they'll look towards Amar...
Amar has put the duel ready, is he able to find any sort of target
to take out?
Mikkei, he's just too far!
He can barely damage this XFR now.
The Pyke back there flying out here from Fountains in a flurry of desperation to keep this game alive.
They go for the lasso attack, they've got MidK caught in the lasso!
But MidK is having to push himself back beside the Hurricane Pike he's keeping his distance and he's lost it. point in the last zone
it's a triple kill for Skeeter Falcons. They will hold, they have to buy back on the two of them
but they force Liquid out of the base.
Liquid...
...they do not get away. We're trying to go all in on the agent at least not yet but falcons have defended
how many what was that two buybacks crit and themmar i mean liquid they go for the big play to go for this
attempt to get anything they get the disables they aren't able to control mickey long enough oh man
i mean that was a point where you can absolutely see why liquid went all in on
absolutely there's an opportunity there was a chance yeah especially with the bruce though
with the frames and we saw all the block damage but he had those buybacks coming in and the
control and now skitter i think the most important thing is
he gets every kill.
So we were talking about the Crimson Guard
He almost has the Aghs
Oh that spell
Get the Roach Liquid
But they could get the rush liquid. They went for a ballsy play,
but they could get punished for it here.
And with that play as well,
you've got to remember they didn't even get any racks.
No racks.
They didn't get any racks
that went straight for the tier fours,
straight for the ancient.
They felt strong.
They did not. Falcons,
they hold. They get the
Roshan and this game, it ain't over
yet. It's gotten spicy and now
Staking is getting some of these Auras too. He's got the pipe.
He's going for at least a solo crest for his team.
All righty, and I think the AC is almost done
for Malrein so yeah some timings being hit now too
And the Ag Skeeter is definitely
the most important one.
We saw this Crimson kind of just doing everything there
in these last few ones he'll have the dispels oh boy
did liquid go a little too far they still have a good lead they still
have basher's still had a ton of items on everybody here i mean mickey is still huge
now obviously did die the once
and is going to get some of his souls
penalty taken away there
capped down towards 20.
He'll have the butterfly next time round
but that's still gonna come at a time
where there won't be any direct answer
to the evasion.
They are still absolutely massive,
but Falcons has been given a chance in this game.
They're going to look to go again.
Of course they know and be sure
whilst Crit also doesn't have buyback there
that the fact that Amaz is gone it it's going to be pretty huge. If they can find the Legion...
That will be quite a window of push indeed as we see
It's actually financial reasons for the rest not having got by that Skeeter
Despite that fight did obviously go in on the Axe
He absolutely needs to be absolutely
and yeah we'll have to see amara in particular you know you're mentioning him he has no bkb or anything so if they do catch him with
if they catch him at a coil or anything but in particular he is very likely to go down they can
also throw them off during the duel and stuff like that so let's see
the team fight execution is liquid wait for a risky play and falcons have
gotten an opportunity to get more scaling on skeeter the
playing around their vision here because you're picking still
super strong especially with that
timing of butterfly before any mkbs are
even close to the horizon that's going to be sort of the next
at the current window right if they can fight a final fight before this mpb is out in control
it's gonna feel pretty good but if skita gets that mkb before liquid or ever progressed the game anymore
and look what are going to fall into more difficulties then it's getting closer and
close to the point where skidder will be able to get on top of this ssf yeah and then he'll
have a free chance
to play the game we saw even there right when they were going for the game end
going for the going for the throne uh even with sort
of all the kiting in control mickey did still eventually die you know
with all this farm he's not untouchable.
Liquid.
He's a bit afraid because of his Aegis
even though there is no MKB
they are expecting this type of movement that's coming out from Falcons
He bought the Javelin, so I mean Skeeter is just going all in and it
does give him a little bit of pierce. It's not MKV
by any means but it's a slight extra bid on top
of the maelstrom which gives him some extra bid as well
I don't know what percentage it ends up,
if you're at 25% and then you can miss that
you get another 25% chance so...
It's probably like a 30-40% chance.
Is it 37.5 or something?
I don't remember.
The evasion eyes...
He's going to be getting some hits.
Some hits for sure, yeah.
A decent amount honestly.
It is good to get the javelin.
And Boxy do have to talk about him he almost is level 18.
so that level three unleash is going to be online as well to build just flurry down these targets
too we could do quite a bit of damage in this. Next up, coming to fight two.
Jump the support.
Do they want to try and start things with quick attempts
and then he charges kill?
Let's see what they can poke out.
He has a craggy coat too.
So he is unbelievably tanky now at this point to lanes also not in the best
position here for liquid probably want to go to split push these another even
more kind of, and this isn't an aura but it's a kind of pseudo-ish aura i guess you could say
33 goes for halberd so another thing that he can throw on into the legion or onto this troll warlord
once these bkbs are coming down since it's undisputable, of course.
Cool to see first time this patch. 33 really
taking a back foot here
just being that true support blue master.
Just trying to play around these high grounds until that Aegis gets reclaimed
before they look to push for a fight.
If an opportunity arises,
they will still try
even though the Aegis is still there
for a minute.
If they can get a big coil into like this wreck when
they still have this wombo combo it's still a bit risky though i don't know like do they really
have to push it before the ages goes i would imagine they wait for the timing but they're
just playing around.
Nice pass. They're ice-cold! was making me can ease out skaters in on top of the schedule get caught with a
seven-day but the beat can be the rolling thunder continues to control
Mickey
sign we could put them at two turns around beating it's all about because
getting so lovely surviving the life still comes into play
became will not fall quite yet
they're taking out the troll the ones coming to it a second time if you're
still live ready for round two and this is flying over the walls making mckay
backing up relying upon cnc to keep the other
others of falcon held away from him so micky could stand this
they hold the fight in a beautiful position snaking see if he's ever
retreat from this evil way three dead on Falcons again no buybacks on any of them
to get the jump on his thinking inside of the base
who's healing up but we can forces in a couple of raises trying to
get him snakey looks like you will live they want them they're going to jump in and they
will kill them off and now no buybacks they don't have it skinner's got a 90
they've got a fortification and just maureen on his own in an
attempt to hold on in this competition
ladies Amal is already cold and GG is cold. Ladies and gentlemen, Liquid are going to the Grand Finals!
That was such good plays coming out of them
And Auras definitely worked out
They just buff off MidGuyHeat
He can stand his ground in between a troll.
Everyone's sandwiching, there are a lot of little plays that came into it.
33 gets the throw up onto Chris Batrider as he maybe gets a lasso on to him
but overall Liquid they came in with a strategy
and this strategy worked beautifully.
Just Nick Gay
insanely far. He was so far
ahead even in those final
moments when they were getting on top of him,
he was just surviving throughout it all.
Enough time for the rest of the team to give him the space
to survive and play his hand in the team fights.
The only time he died is when they went all in onto their yeah one of the tier
fours and trying to go for the game and a little bit earlier
outside of that it was it was perfect stuff it's such a cool kind of synergy
of draft that they do with the auras with the brew but then it's i think the
crucial thing really is boxy also
on top of everything too getting this sidekick so he has his extra legs to extra mobility with
these rebounds and stuff too if you don't want them together if he's able to attack
the amount is healing up at that point it was insane they just don't have
the damage there out through it no they could bring him alone but that is it a treat to see
this is a really cool kind of plan that came together perfectly with yeah even the nisha
clock scaling as well too
and they went for that here.
You know, they went for the throne
with a little bit of a risk
it gave us maybe a punch back there
for Falcons but seems like
it didn't matter because Liquid
No, I saw the boldness
as well from Liquid to go
for that final fight into the Aegis.
That's how strong they knew that they were.
They're like, well we could wait a minute
but you know what?
We're hungry.
We want to get this game done.
Get over towards the lunches."
They just went for it!
Aegis was out, it didn't matter
they fight through Steela twice
in the midst of a teamfight
That was cool. Very very cool
There's definitely a lot of little plays that came in
but overall Liquid is a a full team strategy. Great macro play movements.
They took a slight risk to be able to go for the throne and stuff like that
But in the end they get the result that they wanted. Just great synergy from the draft.
That really was, and if they keep this up
there absolutely going to be quite
a formidable opponent for gaming gladiators
in that grand finals.
And in the past it's been gaming. Last year I believe they won every single series versus Liquid
in those finals that they played them,
so it's going to be quite a reach and see what Liquid can do
with these strategies versus them.
Absolutely well with this win here liquid they're looking great more
ready than ever to tackle gaming gladiators in that grand finals i cannot wait but now we're
gonna head over the stage to hear from boxy after liquid take the series 2-0 against Falcons.
Thank you very much, I am joined by Boxy of Team Liquid
who has now secured Grand Finals yet again at Back to Back Riyadh Masters.
And you also get the privilege of your first key crushing
because you guys have been cruising through Upper Bracket,
but now Team Falcon's journey has ended in snaking!
If you don't mind, could you please bring your
key to liquid the
victors of this lower bracket final?
A round of applause please please. Ladies and gentlemen for an amazing run from Team Falcons
as they end here in the top three
and Falcons have ended their journey
but Liquid continue onwards
because boy you guys came out on top have ended their journey, but Liquid continue onwards
because boy you guys came in kind of angry this morning it seems.
After the 0-2 against Gaming Gladiators yesterday
most teams I imagine would've gotten a little bit thrown off balance.
But what was the energy?
This lower bracket final was insane! What a 2-0!
Yeah, there were four or five hours of moping
and then coach William came in with a motivational
Seb-esque speech, brought everyone's spirits up you know?
And I saw that he was doing some studying
late into the night about plans for Falcons and game and how did you guys spend the
night after hopefully having your spirits
raised and being like guys tomorrow's a new day
playing overflow maybe for me i watched some replays
study some patterns but usually you just try and get into a good
mindset go to bed in time you know eat some
it's a food make sure you're like everything is physically in place I THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE FIT FOR THE
COACHES.
EAT SOME FOOD, MAKE SURE
EVERYTHING IS PHYSICALLY IN
PLACE AND THEN TRUST YOUR
COACHES TO DO THE REST.
AND EVERYTHING WAS
MENTALLY IN PLACE FOR YOU GUYS
AS WELL AS A TEAM, AS A UNIT. I saw Micke was even graciously giving you some last hits on your Marcy to make sure that you could finish your BKB.
How often are you able to convince him, like dude come one I'm this close?
Micke doesn't take a lot of convincing.
Oh really? I think Nera would be a little harder to convince.
It's like how many back and forths do I need to go through?
Before, Mikke was one or two so it's not so bad.
How many back-and-forths are involved when your team decides to go tier 4's though?
Because that was one moment where maybe the communication had a little disconnect.
I mean, in theory it can be executed.
But we need to focus their heroes instead of the towers.
Personally, I would have preferred to maybe take a Rax and go Roshan.
It's a team game and you have to trust the calls that are being made.
And I think if we
go Throne and then we kill their heroes as they come in
one by one, we might
be able to do it. Of course, it's riskier but you know sometimes
you feel that and then you go for it.
And the feeling didn't work out there
But in the end of the game ended up being
In your pocket now Boxy
we've been down this road before for you in two different circumstances at this event last year
You made it to grand finals against team spirit this year
It's going to be a grand finals and against gaming gladiators
For all the liquid fans out there why is this time going
to be different not just in terms of the year's performances but everything this
is a championship opportunity for you now why can we all believe in Liquid?
I think a lot of finals
we've played, we've been a little bit
scared perhaps because
it takes a toll to lose eight
grandfinals consecutively.
And I think this time we already got destroyed by gaming once,
so now we're like OK, we've been there and done that
and then we have some confidence
that we are going to do things different
and I think they are like a scary team but
they've i think they were scarier before i feel
like now they're a bit like one trick pony and
i don't know if you don't lose in 15 minutes, you might win.
I love the attitude Boxy! Congratulations on another Grand Finals!
What a feat from Team Liquid! Can't wait to see you at the Grand Finals
I will let you prepare for that
as we send it back to the studio.
Thank you Tsunami and Boxy there,
giving us a lot of insight towards this very quick 2-0.
But at 2-0, it was for Liquid.
They see themselves going on to the grand final.
Going to have that grudge rematch up against Gaming Gladys. this game two did uh not go the way a lot of my analysts
expect you guys actually really like the draft between balkans he thought that it was going to be
able to come online we liked the legion Commander especially towards the end there, I think?
Yeah!
I mean, I think that Liquid were just a step ahead of Falcons today.
Like every single move that Liquid made was just at the correct timing.
Falcons is always
just a little bit too late and i gotta say completely underestimated liquid
going into today i mean i thought that after their loss
yesterday versus game then they were exposed you know how to break
their lanes?
No, no, no.
Liquid showed us today that they can bring the tempo
and they can completely crush.
I mean from all the way to that first Aegis
that they took
into all of the smokes
that worked out afterwards
based on pick-offs on the map they picked off LC mid into all of the smokes that worked out afterwards.
They found pick-offs on the map,
they picked off LC mid,
they picked off Tango on the side and then Falcons actually took this initiative
to like push Liquid's high ground
and they got completely punished there. I mean, the network just
swung to like a 6k lead at that point
and it really did feel like
Liquid had their number. They just understood them so well
with us. Yeah, the beautifully executed
draft from Team Liquid, I really like how they were playing around
mckay he only had one bet in that game multiple four staff stacking lincoln's on top of him so
that he can get his because he's afraid of that Batrider. He's afraid of that LC duel
but they were grouping around playing as
a team and just as you said
one step ahead sometimes couple of these
seconds can make
decision making much more difficult fighting into Roshan
and stuff like that. But overall team
Liquid I loved also the itemization
from the Brewmaster. I think that's the key
one because so far they didn't have any success
with the Brewmaster with the Radiance build, so he goes for Aura
builds that Guardian Greaves, builds
that Crimson Guard which is like okay
there's not going to be enough damage. Troll still doesn't
have MKBs so they don't have that extra magical
damage coming out and builds into Halberd in the end,
which is kind of a chef's kiss on top
just to be able to disable the troll
and unable to deal any damage.
But yeah, beautifully executed stuff from Team Liquid.
You know what Liquid reminded me of in this game?
What? They reminded me of
Prime OG where they
would protect Ana with
all these buffs, the Lincoln Spheres
the Lotus Orbs, the Force Stabs onto
the high ground.
Everything was just
about buffing Mikkei.
So we were viewing
the draft on a lower
level than they
were where we're like
okay in a one-to-one
direct counter
Legion Commander with the duel is
going to be able to kill the SF and if your entire
draft is riding on this SF then you're
gonna have some problems in the late game but we didn't consider
the Crimson. We didn't consider the Four Staves, the
Lincolns, the itemization on
Mikke.
When they play
together as this
cohesive unit,
they are clearly
confident playing
this SF into pretty
much anything.
At first I was
worried that Mikke
was going too
defensive with these items
And now it's like, okay where is the damage
Really gonna come from?
But the pose for Marci in my eyes
Was what filled in that gap while he
Was able to get the Dragonlance for himself, get that Lincolns and then he
was able to go.
I mean, I know he ended up going for a Mask of Madness a little bit earlier on but yeah
there was that low...
It was no it was like pretty much no damage items even the Mask of Madness, I would consider a farming and sustain item.
Sure.
And I think, like you said, the Marcy...
The fact that she gives base damage now instead of flat damage...
All of the items the SF is building that were defensive
were also items that gave stats.
Right? Butterfly,
there was the Hurricane Pike, all of these
things give stats. Lingotsphere even gives a bit
of stats so the damage comes from
the heroes with the SF not the SF himself.
Yeah so it's great they dropped it for itemized for but Effie let's have a look at some highlights
here your one is going to come up first on our screen here and it was earlier in the
game where we thought what on earth is Liquid doing?
In fact, what is Falcons doing to initiate this fight?
Yeah.
So basically, Falcons kind of took a quest from PSG Questbook yesterday
where they baited the Ancient Slack and then tried to take a fight but
i thought this was a cool highlight because it's such an odd choke point to take it where
enchantress walks in jekiro and talk are in that really odd place in the river
but because of enchantresses tankiness facet, you can see the buff
come out of the Legion Commander. She actually
baited the fight and dragged the fight back
into her team where they got a successful
duel off with the Macropire. And even though
Falcons lost, I thought this was a really cool move.
Unfortunately for them it was their last successful move versus Liquid in this game.
Yeah pretty much remember in that game we were watching all the replays of the great legion commander deals as well and then
unfortunately just uh it didn't come together like that yet again but jenkins you've got a
moment for yourself that you'd like to talk us through i was gonna say walk us
over talkers i do I mean this is the moment
of the game. Foxy talked about it.
The decision to go for
the throne, to me,
people are only
going to make this call when you are in a lower bracket finals
back against the wall. You're feeling the momentum,
you're feeling the emotion and you can see that even though Falcons did end up winning
this fight they had to go in one by one. They had to expand their buybacks so even
though this didn't end up with the throne falling and the game ending it set Falcons
back a lot and it also gave gave this window of opportunity for Liquid
to win the game by killing those heroes
that didn't have buybacks. And for like the 10 minutes
after this, before the game ended,
Falcons had to play incredibly safe even within Aegis
they're like well our subs don't have buyback, right? So if
they die, we lose the game regardless of
the age, especially with the brew. You just throw up
the troll and then all of a sudden, what ages?
You're in that weird zone where you want to be
aggressive, you want to take advantage of that. Yeah, how can
you? And you're also panicking because you're like
out there and exposed now what exactly
are we going to do? And Lacoste, you're going to show
us the very last key moment
of this game number two, the Liquid won to knock out Falcons.
Pretty much. The buybacks are down for
two supports on Team Falcons and
I want to highlight how they're playing around
MechaShadowFiend who gets the
Manta style. He's pretty much focus of the whole fight they know if he dies
they're not gonna have enough damage so he gets the pike you can see this play as well and another
hurricane fight coming out from him on the high ground.
Good positioning for Mickey and everybody around him,
pretty much playing understanding what they're going to go for using that
Lincoln's here from park with top of them which is gonna result in multiple
kills and this is how Team Liquid will go to grand finals yeah when you see
them play a game like this it definitely shows the team worthy to make it to the grand final the
teamworthy to go up against aiming gladys who secured that spot for themselves yesterday.
But looking at that one
all of our highlights you would think that Mikke
would be our MVP of the series
but you got a look at both games
Game 1 and Game 2 And so our PlayStation MVP
for this Falcons liquid game
was in fact Boxy.
We were talking to him
a little bit earlier on stage
with Tsunami,
but I think both the combination
of the Muffling
and the Marcy.
So game one and game two,
what he was playing in a position for
is exactly why we've decided to give him
the PlayStation MVP.
And Boxy you're joining us here.
You're doing all the interviews
just running around the whole uh full of eyes
Hello. Hello. Uh, you don't win a playstation for this
That's too bad. They told me to stop
I don't know i've never had one actually. I'm always been an Xbox kind of guy.
But... but...
I will say that now nobody that
I know has an
Xbox. Sorry. Should have told me. has everybody hasn't expected that console that we can't everybody's got a place sorry
playstation should have told me the way to go boxy let's talk about it the
the post sport morph you weren't the first one to play in this tournament but we've been uh
saying it for you that you are the one to pioneer.
Talk me about how it came about,
how much you had to beg to let Blitz pick it
for you in game 1?
There wasn't so much begging.
I think FreeFree is a big believer also.
Oh good! But, I mean, I've grinded it a lot.
Like 9 class started playing it and some other people like tops on mid
And then I watched some of the replays but
I lost my first 10 games
So you know, it was a learning curve uh but after i played likes you know some more of them i feel like now it's it's pretty fun good
i feel like sometimes i play it feels really bad still haven't quite figured it out but
i don't know i'm gonna hijack this whole interview and talk about the pause for morph because
i really have i've been playing this guy knows this guy knows huge more fling fan
i want to ask you some questions about this uh first off i noticed in that game
that you were sitting high strength morph a lot and then still morphing into the sand king
when do you go full agi for the cooldown reduction versus staying high strength.
Okay, so there's an ability I like to call Ice Blast
that stops you from healing, morphing up
So I figure if I just press the max Strength button
and leave it there... if I just press the max strength button
and I leave it there.
Pretty good, huh?
So you played Morph on easy mode because they picked AA.
So what should have been a counter to this?
Kind of.
I mean, I feel like it's a counter
to carry Morph but on support support more of i don't know i was kind of vibing
on full hb actually moonbeander was like oh this counters the support morpheus i feel
like you know i mean it was a bit annoying to not have cooldown reduction,
but it was...
I don't know if A is good or bad.
I got more Morphling.
You get one for Morphinghing what are your favorite guys to play against
that's morphling when you have that cool never action because i feel like timber
is a really good hero to play against if not like the best and they picked it into you
well i haven't really played against timber before this favorite
uh i don't know weaver sanking maybe oh yeah perma sakuchi that one can be
good i feel like sometimes i take over Oh yeah, perma-sakuchi. That one can be good.
I feel like sometimes I take over somebody
and I do nothing.
Yeah, that's what
happens for me.
And I don't even know
like...
It's just confusing to play.
Isn't it exciting though?
You just never know
what you're going to get.
Kind of, yeah. And I also noticed that you went for mech even though you were playing against aaa and i noticed
that you were kind of going in soaking up the aa blast so both of your cores
can't kind of get the lifesteal?
You had Beastmaster with Jagd, you had Monkey King.
Is that something that you talk about or do you say like
I'm going to go in or how does it work?
I mean, I guess I felt because I'm playing on max HP
I should go in.
I think the mech...
You know, maybe you can't heal on A blast
but nobody will...
Your whole team won't be A blasted
and it feels a bit bad to be like
oh, I don't want to buy
the items that normally I normally by just because they have
this or this you know sometimes you gonna buy like concept there even though they have an
unifier cause like is he always going to press it on me like probably not kind of like that so
well i want to talk about the marcy as
well i want to know some more insight of how you feel you have to play a
possible monster at least how you felt you had to have played it in that game
against falcon um i mean it's strong for the lane.
I think it's strong later. It's a little awkward
somewhere there in the mid game when you're trying to get your
BKB but I was gracefully
donated some creep waves by my carry
so that was nice and you know it's really good with the turrets because you like
give them lifesteal. And then when you get golden your hp goes up, I don't know if you guys saw
there were two times i i missed bashing the troll
and this is bashing me and i'm not dying so that's kind of the perks of
having it with a turret. I wasn't sure if he was like the best pick but falcons,
I think...I've had success with it before so I was like let's just send it okay when you say success
before is that in officials and scrims and pubs i don't know i just have the feeling oh okay
whose call was to pick marcy because you so far played 14 different
heroes and and they like the by far the biggest hero pool yeah of the whole team so who makes
the calls um i think i suggested it and then i started like
talking about some other heroes and
then william said like he just wants to
play it so let's speak or something
like this sometimes like i give a lot
of options but i'm not so sure yeah you
can see a lot of questions that they
give a lot of options that And sometimes I give a lot
of options that we've never
played before and then I
think maybe we'd rather go
with the one we've
experienced before.
Yeah, going back to the
pause form more, I wonder
if playing a generic unnamed guitar rhythm game that we can't mention helps you with pressing your buttons quicker on Pause4Morphling.
I'm not sure, for me, I play drums on it.
So yes.
And that doesn't help you at all with your Dota position?
I feel like there's some correlation
with keeping your brain active and playing difficult heroes but I'm sure dota does stop well enough already
probably yeah one more thing like we should mute jenkins yeah back to just kidding so
i wanted to ask you about knowing what your opponent
is going to be in the grand finals if you beat falcons do you guys also have some kind of a prep
coming into do you think forward do you think like oh we need to meet markets but if we do
we're still doing prep for game in because
we are not going to have that much time.
The advantage of losing in the upper bracket
is where you already prepped and lost
the game in so it's not like you're coming
in and playing a whole new team
I mean we just play them I think its kind of fresh in our minds So it's not like you're coming in and playing a whole new team.
I mean, we just play them.
I think that's kind of fresh on our minds so we don't forget those games very easily
A lot of times we come into the lower bracket
And now during this time we are struggling
Like what do we want to do
because you really want to focus on anything at the time right now i'm doing this interview no
because not now i feel like okay like we've done all the prep and then plus two of our
games and we're like wow we learned so much from those games you know yeah
so uh it's it's not so bad i think yeah i think either way that's a fantastic
uh question to end it on so thank you lacoste thank you boxy as well congratulations for
being out playstation mvp thank you also what do i win you don't get a playstation a controller congratulations on being our PlayStation MVP. Thank you.
What do I win?
You don't get a PlayStation.
A controller.
I win...
First handshake.
I was told to stop saying that.
Pleasure.
Don't play Boxy,
you got that.
And you've got one more extra question about position four morphing right now but people
he's gonna dm you we're going to go to our lower bracket
we're going to thank you so much box Bugsie. I'll let you head off for a path to the Grand Slam.
Thank you guys.
I'm heading off.
Yup, you're walking off right foot then left foot
and then right foot.
Stop talking into the mic as you're walking!
He's like yo, I'm leaving!
Breaking the immersion.
Look these guys they're leaving to get ready for the grand finals though.
Team Liquid a very quick switch to OpenTastic from them it does mean
that Falcons will be doing a leaving of their own.
And that's this tournament.
Let's hear some words from their captain, Snake King and his ex-admins here.
Thank you very much.
I am joined by Snake King of Team Falcons, which
I imagine despite all the championships over the year moments like this still hit it no levels
of trophies can really diminish anytime a loss like this happens
on a stage like this. So,
just wondering what's going through your mind right now?
I mean obviously
there's definitely flashbacks
of the mistakes I feel like I made during the game, maybe draft blunders.
There's obviously there's regrets
but I think the most important thing is
we need to learn from these mistakes
and not let it kill us
because what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.
And then we need to evolve
and be better at TI.
There have been a lot of people
trying to kill Team Falcons over the year
and the fact that
it finally happened now...
Do you feel this tournament was the culmination of
the target being on your back for so long?
Everyone has been scrutinizing what your team is capable of.
You guys have been setting the benchmark
and perhaps this time
it finally caught up? I don't think
there's so much about other people who have to
target our back. I feel like we definitely have targeted
our back, but I think the main thing is
we performed not as well as we should
be able to. And I think our understanding
of the meta, of having all these auras
was not as good and
fighting on those timings once we
because both versus Gaiman and Liquid, once they got these pipe crimson TIMINGS ONCE WE, BECAUSE BOTH VERSUS GAMING AND LIQUID, ONCE
THEY GOT THESE PIPE CRIMSON
GREEFS, THIS COMBINATION OF
ITEMS, AND THEN THEY FORCED
THIS FIGHT.
AND THEN WE END UP TAKING IT
AND IT DOESN'T GO WELL INTO OUR
FAVOR.
I THINK LIKE IT'S PARTLY AN UNDERSTANDING ISSUE. it doesn't go well into our favor and i think like it's partly of an understanding issue um that we
actually cannot fight to this until we find a solution or like the troll acts for example in
the second game and we just didn't have any solution after gaming rolled us over in the upper series as well.
Dude, I love the analytical mind! You just hit the ground running immediately trying to reverse engineer what happened
so i've no doubt whatsoever you guys are going to be able
to grow from this for the next month as you look forward
towards Copenhagen,
What's gonna be your preparation or rather maybe even
what's even going to be your relaxation?
We're all going to go home and just finally reset
because we had a two or three week boot camp leading into Rehab Masters.
So, we are going take a little break for couple of weeks
then we are going fly to bootcamp
and then train for TI go fly to boot camp,
and then we're going to train for TI again.
Can't wait to see it happen!
Any parting words that you'd have
for all the Falcons fans who've been cheering you on
and have joined the flock over this year?
I appreciate you guys for supporting us,
our journey ends here but it's only
the beginning.
Snaking? I have no doubt that that is
the case. Congratulations on an amazing run
condolences that it ends here can't't wait to see what you're capable of in
Copenhagen as we send it back to the studio.
We thought that the low bracket momentum for Falcons after yesterday could have been enough
for them, but today it just wasn't their day.
Liquid outclassed them,
outplayed them and outsmarted them in drafts
and because of that they get to crush
their key. The favorites coming into
this everyone was looking at them and uh 33 he's
definitely enjoying it crushing his ex-teammates pretty much he's in this hydraulic press
thunder members and let's see how it goes.
It's going in.
We're gonna raid it.
Let's see if it breaks.
Putting enough pressure
on it, he's really
yep.
Onslaught is very
hyped.
He just kept
going I thought
he was gonna stop
but he's putting more pressure on him. No he's repressing. He just kept going. I thought he was gonna stop, but...
He's putting more pressure on it.
No, he's reversing!
Oh, he's reversing it.
He's putting more pressure on the thing which is reversing it.
I saw it backstage with Purge and
It looks way cooler in person
than it does when you watch it.
So I feel like when you're there,
it's actually super hyped
to actually do it
and every team had falcons
on their mind
that they wanted to take out and
be the ones to do it, be the ones
to crush Falken's key. 3-3 has
to feel good here. I want to remind
everyone as well that
team that wins the trophy here,
the added bonus for themselves
is they get to pick three keys
of other teams
to put in the base
of their trophy.
And so now I'm thinking
with a game in Gladiators
and Team Liquid finals,
how likely is it that the team
Falcons key will end up? It's going to be there.
100%.
Them being the best team of 2024
pretty much, and I think coming into like this tournament everybody is gonna doing extra prep for
falcons because this is the team to beat and they managed to you know snatch a couple of
tournaments off other people so So it's gonna be spicy
and it's going to be one of the grand finals
Of course Team Falcons and maybe
something from The Pubs, you know? Maybe some beef
depending who is going to be the one choosing it
Yeah I was just going to say if it was just Amar on
the golden key,
they would still be
the one that every team chooses.
No, what I do want
to hear though from each
one of you is
what you expect Game and Gladiators
are three teams for them,
and the three teams with Team Liquid.
I know the answer so I'll tell you.
Okay.
I have already asked when and blitz.
Yeah, that's all point liquid liquid this dialogue. Liquid, liquid.
Falcons.
So this is for gaming gladiators?
For gaming, yeah.
Liquid, falcon.
BB team?
I was gonna guess that!
What do you think Liquid's ones will be if they win? I was gonna guess that. And the team is going to choose BGT.
What do you think Liquid's ones will be if they win?
Gaiman, of course. Falcons and...
Not BB Team.
Spirit please!
OG.
Spirit?
It's not Spirit.
Because I feel like you've got to respect Spirit winning last year in 2TIS.
That's a respect...
I mean they were reigning champions
and they ended up falling down in the lower
bracket to PSG Quest. Like there's this
momentum, you know?
And Liquid themselves knocked them down
to that lower bracket so it's very poetic
I'll be interested to see. That's what at least one from each of the teams said. I'll be interested to see that's what at least one from each of the teams said, but
I'll be interested to see who they do eventually change by now.
Yeah, you never know that the meta changes in Heroes pick the keys that they put
in the trophy might also change,
but either way we've got a little bit of time before
our grand final and so I want to check
in with Purge and see exactly what he's
up to around the Esports World Cup.
Hey guys, we're backstage right now
just after the match between Team Liquid
and Team Falcons
and a lot of stuff has happened.
If you take a look around the room
it's very busy in here.
There's tons of people.
This is the room that Falcons are probably currently in,
talking to each other and discussing what went wrong.
But in the meantime, we have a ton of interviews going on at the same time.
We've got Insani interviewing.
We've got 3-3 interviewing. 3-3 just came off the main panel
there's so many moving pieces that happen
to make all these things work and these are interviews
with different language sources and other
journalists and things like that
tons of crew on set prepping for the next stage
because so many things need to happen before
the next match. In fact I believe
the standard is teams have about an hour off
between lower bracket final and winter bracket finals to gather themselves,
relax a little bit, eat
and prepare for the grand finals so that we have a really
good match. So they've got to fit all this stuff in
in addition to their prep before they can
play matches. And if you're curious how this stuff works,
usually it's just coordinating ahead of time with
player managers and things like that to make sure our
expectations are all the same in that
we're seeing and experiencing
fair standards and things like that so
that's a little bit of stuff that's happening oh and i think i saw 33 crush
the key over there as well it's busy anyways
that's just a little picture what's happening backstage
in these chaotic times we'll be back at some point with the grand finals.
Thank you, Fudge.
He was giving us that insight about all the moving parts
behind the scenes there.
And also that it is going to be
a bit of an elongated break
before the grand finals.
We've got to give Team Liquid
a little bit of time to reset.
And so I want to fill it
very briefly with the three
of you to talk about
the last three weeks that has been Riyadh Masters at Esports World Cup and
obviously get your prediction on that grand final if you want to start us off
please Ashley. I mean it's been a fun three weeks,
the Dota has been really good but for me the most exciting part was
also seeing the other broadcasts going on at the same time
like right across from us
and seeing the excitement from other games too
because this isn't just about
Dota. The WC taught everything
and being a part of that was way cooler than I thought
it would be. My finalist predictions?
I think probably gaming will take it
but Liquid looked really good just now so i don't
want to jinx anybody that's look that's totally fair sometimes
you're a bit superstitious what about isoplicost
ah it's been great so far you know this is my third time in riyadh
always a pleasure and also you know talking to other analysts
talking the other casters from different uh games of course might pick up you know some
of the games as well maybe mlbb may be maybe Honor of Kings. We might get
hooked on it but overall
tournament has been great.
We had some like great underdog stories
PSG Quest the playing team that reached top
six almost managed to get into top four as well but
overall dota has been good i like the meta how it shaped up after like the group stages we have
the playoff meta as well and And for the prediction, I would
say that this is not going to be a 3-0.
Oh, I like that though!
So you know, I didn't say what sort of prediction. It's a great
prediction. That's actually a bold prediction given how
these tend to go.
It's bold when you consider 2023, but not
bold when you consider how these teams have looked
in this tournament. I would
personally mirror the same things that you guys
said. I think having a tournament that is just a celebration of esports
is extremely nice i don't know how you guys felt growing up but i feel like gamers you're kind
of a bunch of nerds you Sometimes you feel like an outcast or
an escape element to playing these games
and we finally all get to come together
as a community and say,
We love video games.
This is here to stay.
This is the new sports.
And every year it gets better so I hope next
year we see everything,
the production up,
We got the trophy,
we're doing some crazy key crushing stuff.
I'm excited to see where the ideas go and in terms of
the Dota, we had Spirica knocked down into the lower bracket
BBTeam had their story
Where they started performing really well
But through the lower bracket after having a terrible group stage
So there were a lot of really good storylines and then finally we get a rehash of
game liquid but in a different era you couldn't write a better story than this
so i'm very happy with how things went
You're right it feels full circle almost poetic that we thought
that it would have been game and liquid in the Grand Finals of Riyadh Masters last year.
But after a whole 12 months
We do have gaming and team or liquid in the grand finals here at Riyadh Masters 2024.
We're going to head to a break,
And if you want to fill it in don't forget there is either PUBG Mobile
Going on some other streams or CS2
If that tickles your fancy but make sure you stay tuned Because we'll come back with our Grand Finals STREAMS OR CS2 IF THAT TICKLES YOUR FANCY BUT MAKE SURE YOU STAY TUNED BECAUSE WE'LL COME BACK
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. so. Hey everybody, welcome to the Falcons HQ.
That's where the Falcons players from all across
all the different esports here.
The Esports World Cup
come home to make their fans
look at their acquired trophies
play some games
we're going to explore
the HQ a little bit
We're gonna go around
and see the sights
and the sounds maybe even talk to one of the falcons
probably not though i wouldn't get excited for that we'll see what happens
all right i'm not going to make your promises i'm just taking you on a tour
let's check it out!
That one doesn't matter, listen, there are
a lot of trophies in this building
at least more than six
There is another wall of trophies
but what really matters for Team Falcons
is this bad boy.
This is ESL One
Birmingham, baby! Biggest
trophy? Yeah!
Because hardest game. That's right, that's the Dota squad that got these people this trophy.
So Falcons, yeah, you might have unlimited success in other games.
Probably nearly unstoppable.
Crowds of people gathering for everyone but the Dota people,
but let me tell you we got the biggest trophy baby
so that's game baby!
Woo!
Hello, we are at The Booth here.
What is your name sir?
Sod it. My friend what do we have here? We are at the booth here. What is your name, sir? Salih.
My friend.
What do we have here?
We have an action gate.
We will see a red blue.
You start with touch the red one and the blue one.
And if you see the red one, it was jump.
All right, you show me! Here we go.
Okay, what have we got there?
That was impressive. How did you learn that?
Score...score alert...board... That was impressive. How did you learn them? Score, score alert 40!
You guys might not know this but I am a dance dance revolution expert
You might have heard of me before
My name is Quick... This will be the first time i've exercised in six years yeah yeah more than 40.
i'm fine i'm careful. I'm careful bro, I'm careful.
Oh yeah!
I'm careful! Stand back children!
Small children get away!
It's dangerous oh no easy easy easy easy easy oh i got long
oh you can just cheat at this easy easy easy i got long legs I have 12 children!
What? I actually beat you?
That's the first time I've moved in years.
43!
That's long length, baby.
They call me Albatross.
Look at these boys.
You ain't got to move
when you're tall.
First time is good, brother.
You have a good day.
You're a good man.
Guys don't exercise.
Don't look...don't exercise.
Go around me, please, Falcon people.
That's right baby!
That's the Team Falcons area.
What did we learn here today?
We win big trophies.
I probably have a cardiovascular issue.
And you can have so much fun at Team Falcons.
So go Falcon Puncher ticket, and we'll see you here.
I have been out of breath for four hours.
Bye guys!
See ya!
Punched! Bye, guys. See you. Punch!
Ah!
Hey, everybody.
Welcome to another Re-Out Roundtable. I am SirActionSlacks here with Insania and Boxy on Team Liquid. So good for you guys to join us here today! Welcome to the podcasty thing where we don't talk about dota so thank you thank you my friend what
have you been doing outside of dota mr boxey
i mean i can tell you what I do.
Okay let me just tell you the last two weeks
I've been at boot camp playing Dota
What is that like?
And then before that
Yeah
I'm just playing Dota
You wake up, play Dota
Eat, sleep and go to bed
How many hours per day too many too many and also not enough
You know but before that it's like too long ago
So I don't remember why I can tell you what I did though
Okay, well I went camping for the first time since i was like a kid that's crazy yeah so uh
neither my girlfriend or i are like big camper type people you know flexing
no problem we're not the camper type people.
That's not flexing!
I don't know how that's like, I'm trying to set up a set for something.
Continue, continue.
It's like flexing for depressed people.
I have no idea how that's flexing.
So we decided... Someone loves me, that's flexing bro!
That's flexing? Yeah.
This is flexing bro! The like that's not flexing i probably meant the camping part is
the flexing are you okay well that's right
you don't go camping you're like no it's
good then you go let's just continue
i'm in love that's's flexing, bro.
Anyway, so we decided to go camping.
Yes!
In like a tent?
So we bought the cheapest tent
oh no and it was like one of those you just like pull it out of a bag and it
just pops up you don't have to do all this sticks
what are they talking about it's like a pop-up them
what yeah those are real okay so it's like in a circle. It's like those...
You're like...
You know you order
like a festival?
When you spin
with your mouth
and like spring soap.
No, no, no.
You unzip
like a thing
and then you
take off the string
that's holding
it all together and then literally but how do
you repackage it it has like a way that you pack i can show you later you leave it genius design
the bears take it they live they raise their families there.
Okay yes.
So you know like normally I assume experienced campers look up the weather and figure out
all this stuff?
We didn't do any of that we just sat in a car put all these things on the back drove
at some point we called up a camping place
and asked if they could hold us there.
We didn't just camp in the woods!
I feel like you're going to a hotel!
No! It's like a camping place
you know what your don't listen to this if you're going to
like a public park after i tell people where you're going
no okay okay you like pay somewhere to go to like a place i mean last time i went camping you just me and my
friends who's went into the woods near a trail i didn't bring a sleeping bag i almost like died
from like freezing to death yeah and. And we were just camping.
They didn't call anyone.
There was,
like,
a German guy with his kid
waking me up
in the morning.
He was like,
hello!
I was like...
Hello!
That was your
camping experience?
Yeah.
He had,
like,
a really big RV there,
guys. Who is this guys german there was actually
it was like legit only germans okay every license plate on every rv was like it had
like you know german licenses sure there's a lot of german or up your tent they made you dinner oh my god i can't this is like a mockery of
like no what it is so we went to the camping place
we set up our tents and it's like sweden in the middle of
the summer so the sun is up and it's like you know 1am
we go to sleep it's pretty nice we built these like air mattresses that we got from my parents
and they're like my mom told told me one of them leaks.
We don't know which one but one of the leaks just so you guys know.
No!
So about three hours after we fall asleep I can feel the ground on my back.
Oh no!
And it's like there is zero air left.
Oh, no!
My girlfriend is in the car because she's freezing too much.
She's in the car?
She put on a heater.
A heater?! In the car?!
Yeah, yeah. She's ditched it's like pouring down
yeah i don't know you didn't mention that so
it was raining it started raining at some point
and did they call the camping people. The AC is not working yet.
I would have called them and be like this camping experience is not up to par.
It says five star camping on the website but this is not the weather we booked.
We booked sunshine near Pirates.
It's just a location that they keep track of
but there's no one else there.
You really hung up on these kids?
There's a bunch of other people.
Let's finish the story first.
What happened?
There is no story.
Just ask me what I did. this is what i did so she's
it ended up with us like packing up our stuff and then leaving
all camping no like we stayed the night okay and you woke up you had a nice breakfast
we woke up we sat in the car we drove did you stop stopping mcdonald's on the way no okay so
we actually learned that if you go to norwegian gas stations
yeah the hot dogs they serve are way nicer than the swedish ones
and i never thought i would say anything good about norway ever in my life wow
well that came out of nowhere that's a left field what's wrong with norway but this is like it's
just like a sweet little way it's like boundary you know like okay sure sure all right that's
a lot to unpack uh congrats i hope we had a lot of fun. It sounded not fun.
I enjoyed camping!
It sounded like a better camping trip than the one I did.
I mean, I've done that kind of camping trip too but i feel like the normal there's
like a lot of like camping places yeah is that that's the thing in the
u.s for sure it's no a camping place
in my mind this is there's like have you never been to a camping place?
Yes but there's not other people there.
No but like
You literally just drive into
the wilderness and set up
That is one way of doing it And and then there's like places in the wilderness
that are like...
you know they take care of this area
where people set up their tents
So you're like making a bathroom?
And there's like a bathroom
in the middle of like the place
That's like a commune
There's like a bunch of tents setting around now you can go pay like
to sit in the grass they were like they're like mowed the lawn and everything what
are you talking about none of this is real i think it just
went on airbnb yeah i think he got scammed i'm being professionally gassed
all good i do remember what i did not bring my brick oh i tried out like, oh.
I can't say it.
What?
No but it's not good for me and not good for you.
I went on a bicycle and it ended great. oh not good for me no go through i went i
went on a bicycle and it ended great okay
okay move on whatever that dark that means something you don't want to
know i don't want to know ask me something else okay
you got it
why were there so many germans on your
camping trip
because germany has a
much higher population than sweden on a
much smaller area.
So when they want to go and like hike or
buy a summer house, they go to
Sweden or Norway or something.
Same with the Dutch because
they're concentrated and Sweden has a lot of area.
Okay! Thank you!
And nice nature I guess.
Alright. If two were stuck in like a wilderness survival scenario...
Who would you eat first? in like a wilderness survival scenario.
Who would you eat first?
Yeah, okay, we've had this question on our team.
Sure.
Like who would survive the longest?
Yeah, yeah.
And what I feel like most people don't know about Boxy is
he would live.
Like, for hours.
I don't know about that.
The thing is, I don't know.
Like, I will look at a plant and I
will be like, is this the most common plant in Sweden?
Or is it like a rare toxic plant and i don't have no idea that might
be the case unless there's a blueberry but if you're like okay for like a strawberry
i would just die i think that's not true i think you would fight your way to survival
like if a bear attacked...
Yeah.
You'd look at William and you're like, he's pretty big and strong.
Sure.
He'd be scared.
So he'd die.
Boxie would, like, befriend the bear.
But William does just...
I feel like he doesn't do well with physical altercations.
Sure.
Every time I punch him, he's like ow!
Aslan does.
He'd be the guy that would probably throw someone into
the Bears path while he's running.
He'd already like set up a deal with three other people on the team and like we're sacrificing Aiden yeah, before
danger.
He's like screaming behind him.
He's that guy box is like the guy who just run off into the woods,
somehow create his own house.
Have these animals that live alongside him.
I can see that!
When i was 8 we did learn how to make a wind...
Little Wind. That wasn't school. When I was eight, we did learn how to make like a wind. Were you scout? Little wind...
No that wasn't school, like mandatory training.
I wasn't a scout.
You made what?
A wind?
Like a wind shelter.
Wind shelter.
So you take a bunch of sticks and put them on the side. Put in little tarp.
It rains it's dry.
A wind shelter?
You don't know what this is?
It's like sticks and a tarp.
Isn't that like a house or...
No, no.
So if you told somebody you bought a house and then showed them the picture of it
No, it's like...if it starts raining and you don't want to be wet and cold
You build like a little...
Yeah, like a wooden like a little wooden tent it's a little wooden tent yes
wow sweden is crazy that's the curriculum this is wild man have you ever gone penguin sledding
what is that like you hop on the back of a penguin and then you go down like slides.
In Dota?
No!
Yeah, like what do you mean?
Like in Sweden.
Like with a physical penguin?
Yeah!
A real penguin?
Yeah!
And screaming all the time? There's, like,
a place in Stockholm
where they're really friendly.
No, you don't go on a...
It's like riding a horse
but it's like a penguin.
This is insane.
There's not an entire
Okay, next time
you come for Dream League
and we're not
going to get gaslit by you about it that is the
stupidest giant they're small i mean maybe you're trying to make it worse you don't want that little
no it's fine have you seen anything inside of a penguin's mouth no it's like a thousand daggers
so they don't bite their friendly penguins no if i sat on penguin would definitely be grabbing that
but you're too big they won't let you go who could literally says no
Body is not being enough to support
I'm not gonna be gaslit by this little unbelievable stupid thing if I told your son about this
Would he not want to go? He's an idiot. He's like three, he doesn't know anything.
If I told him Pokemon exists you'd be like
oh yahoo!
And believes anything.
Are we done with this or what?
Anyways thank you guys for watching the podcast thing i haven't got my hand signals so uh
are you guys gonna go on any uh re-odd adventures did you go last time we went
go karting the first time go koreakarting i saw in the pamphlet
you can go hiking hike it from like 8 to 15 during the day like a six hour hike
you do really yeah you would go out american eagle knows about how much i love hiking
what's that a reference to i didn't add once you did an ad for america and they needed
they needed someone to like have an interest wow and you know players Dota players don't have interest.
So Joey our like content guy for Liquid he's like Aiden there is only one person I believe that could pull this off.
So yeah I went hiking and nature photography
engines in engines and then they're like filming me well that's cool did you uh you know did it
work out no i think the video has like 200 views.
And it's unlisted now. But you got some jeans.
Yeah, I got some jeans. So it worked out.
For me, it worked out. It was great.
That was the best five hours of my life.
I keep telling Nico that we should do more outdoor stuff like i want to go snowboarding in the alps yeah i'm trying to get like
the whole team to go sure and then they're like well what if you break it
have heard of michael schumacher no do you know who he is michael
shoehofer schumacher. Schumacher.
No.
It's like a driver.
Driver, it was like a Formula One dude?
Yeah and he went skiing
And they broke his hand
He's in a coma now basically
That's dark
Okay great well thank you guys so much
I sure hope this video gets more than 200 likes Ooh, that's dark. Okay, great. Well, thank you guys so much.
I sure hope this video gets more than 200 views
and you are not in a coma after witnessing it.
Thank you, Team Liquid.
Always a pleasure.
We'll see more of you guys at the Riyadh Masters. Thanks for watching. What arc are you on in One Piece?
I finished it.
You finished, how?
What do you mean how?
How is that possible dude?
It's really not that long.
I would be done for another thousand episodes.
People are complaining about the most recent stuff,
I told you I spoiled myself, do you agree with the complaints coming out?
I don't read the complaints.
I did a tier list though recently, it's on my Twitter.
I saw that. It's hashtag esportworldcup
I noticed that you... yeah, hashtag esports world cup
of course shoutouts to RIAB Masters masters these personal cup you rated drum Island very low
No, I didn't I think he did
Know for sure it's like a or s tier bar
I'm pretty sure you're ready to like be your seats here. You want proof? Yeah, so what do I get if you're wrong?
What are you you want my I'm not gonna give you this
This cost me a lot of money. What do you want your guitar? Okay can have the guitar
Is guitar copyrighted can we say guitar. Okay. Is guitar copyrighted?
Can we say guitar?
Is that owned by someone?
Okay, Drum Island
A+.
Oh, it's because
you have the pluses
so I...
Okay,
cause I saw
on the small little thing
and I thought
that was like B tier.
A plus.
Okay.
Let me see this again.
There you go.
What do you have in S plus?
Wano and NES Lobby.
Oh, I've not seen those ones.
Uh, wait.
Is Wno early?
It's really late.
Second to last.
Dress for Rose was good.
I'm at the end of Arabasta
and that one's pretty good. Yeah, one's pretty good.
Yeah,
that was pretty good.
Yeah.
You just started.
That's like 150 episodes
in or something.
Last time I talked to you
which was like a year ago
you were like
oh I'm at the start
of Alabasta.
That's not true. you like watch it slower than george rr martin writes books
no that's not true it's because i read the i read the reddits and then i spoil
stuff and then i'm like well i can skip this arc and i go back and watch it
because spoiling it does it is not the same as watching
because the pacing matters.
I see.
Well, thank you guys for watching this boring interview.
And back to you, Sheever.
That's going to get bleeped. Thank you for watching this boring interview. Back to you, Sheever. That's going to get bleeped.
Thank you for watching this morning interview.
Back to you, Sheever.
Hey everybody! Welcome to another episode of Guess the Clip. That is right, we are playing an auditory game with two very auditory people. PC? WITH TWO VERY AUDITORY PEOPLE. BCM AND TOMATO, WONDERFUL.
WELCOME FROM OGE SPORTS!
HELLO, WELCOME, WELCOME.
ARE YOU READY TO PLAY THIS GAME?
MM-HMM.
GREAT. LET ME EXPLAIN HOW IT GOES. I WILL PLAY YOU A SOUNDTRACK Are you ready to play this game? Great.
Let me explain how it goes.
I will play you a sound clip.
It'll be from one of the games
you are in on your road
to Riyadh,
Road to Riyadh events only.
You have to guess what's
happening in the clip, who you're against and what event it was
are you ready yes do you how do you think you're gonna do you guys don't seem uh
terrible i think you're going to do terrible?
Yeah.
Okay, well we'll find out here we go.
Always set expectations low.
You get disappointed by low expectations.
You can't right?
No, no you get disappointed by high expectations. Alright here we go! You can't, right? No. It's perfect myself.
My high expectations.
All right here we go.
Here comes a clip.
Listen close.
I don this one.
I know this one, I know this one.
Oh okay, okay.
You only heard a ping-a-roll? I know it.
And dispose...
I'm gonna stop you here, what is it?
O G I G Birmingham game 2
How did you know that? What?! IG Birmingham game too.
How did you know that? What?!
Because it's the only game
except for Prophet 2
Yeah, I heard the Prophet 2
That's really clutch
How do you get in?
Cause of the Prophet
That's crazy! Why doesn't he play more profit nobody expected okay
that was insane you only heard like two seconds in that clip. Holy moly! What a beast.
I'm sorry, that's me.
Expectations are set fire now.
That's Big Pong, I have to say.
All right, come on over here.
I'm ready for disappointment.
Don't disappoint me guys.
Keep it all locked.
Here he comes any second now I'm going to go for the last one.
There's Arasta, a Gyro, a Magnus and Enigma is Ren.
That's a Pango... yeah that's an Arasta.
That's a Gyro Q... I don't think it has CM
What in the world?
I...don't know
Clock, CM, Magnus? When did we play...
We played a Magnus against a Gyro.
Oh maybe it was Game 3 against Falcons?
No.
Because they played Gyro and we had Magnus.
No, we had Mars.
We had Magnus that was Medusa but I didn't hear a Medusa.
Oh...
I heard Sven.
When did we play Sven and Gyro?
Against each other?
Maybe it's Dream League.
Dream League, where I played...
I don't remember what's his goal. I never remember fighting this man.
Do I ever get to play him?
That is a fun goal.
Give us a hint, give us a hint!
A hint?! Okay it was a Dream League.
It was Dream League Season 22.
So the earlier Dream League this year.
Because where he was standing in.
Yes, right.
You were playing that gyrocopter. Get out! That's right. Because it was a good ability in the first place.
You were playing that gyro copter.
Yes, I mean...
How is the Gyro?
Yep.
Guarriators!
No.
Seb was not playing the CM.
Dude, dude... Seb was not playing the CM. I was trying to against a CM because Seb does not play CM.
That's correct, you were against a CM.
Who was a cm? Who was cm?
Snake King against the cm what was this yeah who was team sneaking what are they yeah who else plays yeah pangrind again bangles james fan there was an enigma
would you like another hint?
You were playing Penga!
Of course, of course
Uhhh... okay okay
no Falcons not gladiators heroic maybe no I think Joe when I could generally be No, no. I played Gyro and when we beat Gaming
And we also beat...
Or we lost
I definitely lane Gyro against Enigma
It doesn't matter if you won or lost, right?
Who played Enigma?
You did win this one!
We did win.
You went and it was 24 to 32
when you guys still won.
Uhhhhhhh... I was the giant.
How did we win this game?
Recently.
No, I'm afraid it was Maus.
Maus in Dream League 2022.
Huh.
Yeah.
Who would have thought?
Would you like to see the game?
You remember this one?
I was not in that game.
Yeah, you were. I lost in that game. Yeah, you were!
I WAS in the game?
There you are right there!
12-9 rapier
1-10 sep striker
Oh, this is the Ahri smoke
What?
Yeah, the Ah smoked. When he smoked
and got the middle, it was like,
shut up! Smoke right now!
And then we got him with our buyback
He knew, Okay, okay.
That was a cool story
but unfortunately incorrect.
I mean...
It was a qualifier.
Well, I mean...
We get what we get.
You know?
What can you do?
Alright, last one.
Go out strong, boys.
Bye, last one. Go out strong boys. Primal.
We run a hoodling.
Primal?
Koro and ODE.
Bench.
That was Ko Chakra.
That's OD yesterday.
This game we lost and you said
I don't know why I'm getting last pick
and we're picking OD.
Maybe I'm the prime rock? Bench. You are the prime rock so you play against an OD
Gyro Balrio. Man, what is this draft?
Tyranas. Dying.
This is not the Lunal game.
See that's already toned.
Against a Chinese team for sure, like Son Masure.
It has to be like Oreo.
You're laughing?
I'm not laughing guys!
What is this crap?!
So you wanna bet there's a very wrong extreme game here.
I mean who else plays OD?
Either XM or Ori.
Yeah.
And he wants a Dream Link.
It's Zurei!
I think it's Zurei
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I was playing Morph against Surrey. We won the first one and we lost the second one. Probably it's Extreme.
Extreme play on team?
Yeah, I think so.
You want to bet?
I'm going with a Sturei, game one.
Both wrong, I'm afraid.
What was the OD?
I'll give you some hints here.
Okay, Whisperer was on Omniknight.
Oh what?
We lost this game 100%, right?
Yeah! You lost this game hard.
Not a great game.
This was an Omni patch.
This was when Nero
was playing Omni.
It's versus Shopify!
Gyro IO.
That is right,
it was Gyro IO
Omniknight
versus Shopify.
Do you remember the event? Yeah.
The first Dream League we played, yeah.
That's right! Congratulations!
Just want to bring any memories back to you guys?
Yeah, ones that I wish I didn't have.
Oh, yeah. A lot of memories.
A lot of memories.
Oh no!
So I've been asking everybody is it better to forget games
that you lost or do you kind of remember them and think about what went wrong or you just erase
them from memory i wish i could erase it they should make a machine that's just like yeah
i had to raise this you just brought it back so thank you for that one.
I'm so sorry.
But yeah 90% I would say should erase.
Okay. Well guys, you definitely remembered a lot!
You did pretty good.
What would you rate yourselves?
6, because we got one.
And he did it.
I don't know why.
I think you were cheating.
I mean, he was cheating.
I think he just did it.
Yes, he told me before we got in.
We got 1 out of 3 and we were close on the second one.
The third one was bad.
Yeah so 4 points for us. The third one was bad. The third one, yeah so...
4.5
4.5 equals 5 by lot
I'll give you a 7 guys
A seven for the
joy of being in the building. Thank you, well done!
A nice C, you still get the degree.
That was OG coming up for that one
and we'll see more of OG coming up.
Thanks for watching! Do you like interviews?
Yes.
You like interviews?
That's the only question that I have.
What are you doing?
Hello.
You're not part of this bit,
I had a bit prepared for this.
You don't prepare for interviews.
Do you like interviews that are more prepared You don't prepare for interviews.
Do you like interviews that are more prepared or less prepared?
I just go with the flow, so what's up?
I wanted to do a bottle flipping thing with you because I know you're a zoomer and you you guys like the tick tocks and stuff for the friggin flipping bottles
can we do that i did that for school once okay i'm gonna
hand you the bottle has this enough water it's in it or
should i drink some i think it's a little too much
water, I'd say. You kind of want to
like... here.
Okay, can you hold the mic and just say interesting stuff
into the camera while I drink this? Yeah.
Did you know that BCM stands for Bulgarian Sumer Much? Well, bro, you probably didn't but now you do. Is that fine or a little bit more?
That's good. You sure? Okay, you're gonna do the bottle flip? Is that fine? Is it better or a little bit more?
You sure, okay. You're gonna do the bottle flip?
Okay yeah go ahead
$50 if you do it
Nice job! Really well done, really well done.
I'm quite good at it but I don't like to brag so...
Nice try, nice try.
Give me two more tries.
We're gonna cut this and edit it
to make it look like you got on the first
try.
Yeah just keep doing it.
I'll just keep flipping.
Yeah keep going.
Yeah keep going.
I haven't done this in like ten years.
Does it help if I hold the mic right in front of your face while you're doing that?
No, but it's okay.
That was really close!
Okay maybe BZM could do it. He's younger than you right?
Yeah he is.
BZM come on, you can do this.
Does it help if I hold the mic in front of your face?
No.
That was worse.
Try again one more time.
One more try, one more try.
He got a bunch of tries, one more try.
He's just trolling not just him just trolling, not just him.
You guys can just do it if I want to.
Okay wait we can...I have an idea okay?
Can you put the camera like here and I'm just gonna drop it
and then we'll just make...
Yeah.
So get off, yeah.
Okay.
Everybody needs to go like oh!
That's even harder actually. Nice job, really well done.
I'm quite good at it but I don't like to rock so...
How did you do that on your first attempt?
I had a lot of practice back in the day so
some things stay in your mind and...
That's good. Congratulations
and good luck to OG. You still owe me
$50 by the way.
I said 50 doll hairs.
He wasn't listening.
Back to you.
Hello everyone! You're back for another exciting adventure in facet ranking! That is right.
This is the blind facet rank this time with mouse.
Is that correct?
The mouse team?
It's a mouse or mouths you know
mouse mouses all right we're here with miles and of course we're here with
omit and beckham is that right all, he told me exactly how to say his name
I hope I did you justice my man
This is a fun time, one of our first times together
I'm horrible at first impressions
so let's get it started
Today we'll be playing Rank That Facet.
You have to put these facets in order, one through ten.
One is the best, ten is the worst.
You got 10 facets but you only get one at a time.
Do you guys know your facets?
No. Not my name name not all of them
not all of them do you know the support ones i
no clue well you know the ones that are the heroes you play though
yeah of course okay okay all right Well let's see how you do.
Our first one is Krill Eater.
Tidehunter begins the game with a much smaller minus 50 attack range
and minus 50 anchor smash
then grows as the game continues.
What do you think?
Out of 10, like 9 or 8?
Maybe eight.
Eight!
It's not the worst.
Not the worst but that's pretty bad to start at 8.
I don't think Tide is that good.
Why isn't Tide good?
You know he tanky, he got team fights...
Why is it bad?
His impact buys one pipe and just gives aura.
That's true.
He's a pipe boy.
Okay.
All right.
Well I'll give it an eight.
It's starting good.
All right.
The quickening.
I know this one.
This one's for Abaddon. D dying units near avidon lower the cooldown
of all his spells the quickening have you seen abaddon
i've lost on pub with it. I didn't like it.
What do you think, Venga? I have never seen anyone play it.
I only see the other ones.
It's only good in delusion heroes, actually.
Really?!
But this includes creeps and creeps!
Like in the laning phase,
it's actually kind of cool in the laning phase,
it's actually kind of Maybe like a six.
A six?
I would say.
What do you think?
I would rate it
lower than the tights.
We can go with
seven.
Seven!
Okay.
This is bad news for me.
I am a ABBA spammer so the way
that you guys are disgusted by this
makes me very concerned. Next up
is Stoked. This is
for, uh, I believe Batrider.ider bat rider gains move speed and spell amp when displacing enemies
sounds broken is it out of ten what's decent. Like 4 or 3?
Maybe not three, let's say four.
That impact was...
I'm not sure if it got nerfed but...
Well his other one is hidden buildings right?
Yeah that would be a ten.
Okay so this looks like a four or three! in buildings, right? Yeah. So... That would be a 10%. Okay.
So this one's like a 4 or 3? Yeah, 4.
This one's a 4. Okay.
Solid. Alright, next up is the Buddha Festoration!
We all know what this one does.
Had some changes lately but as you know Witch Doctor
can only heal himself and it doesn't damage
the enemies. This was a
pub nightmare a little bit ago. How's
it faring now?
Worse for sure.
Worst?!
Which DrExposh?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
What do you think?
It's like probably like three maybe.
I don't know.
I don't play with him.
I played other one.
I play headhunter
which is wise because the damage is very good Yeah
But yeah, I would think it's decent
cause you know how to farm clips with it
I will just go jungle so
I'll put like two I will do that too damn yeah that's true yeah rank three
it's still that good top three okay i like the gender good i mean, you know, carries like it, mids like it, supports.
We like the damage though right?
Got to farm.
Sneaking farming is very important with Lich Tarka.
Very, very.
Okay next up is uh corrosive caustic bath excuse
me for corrosive skin they're increased while he's in nether toxin for Viper.
Like 9? We only put 9, it's like 10. Yes!
You think this is the worst one?
Not sure...
Sounds really bad. Which one did we put uh
uh you have eight seven four three and i do believe nine no did we no we didn't
do nine let's put it now let's do a nine! Okay, so nine corrosive sk- uh caustic bath.
You don't sit in nether toxin a lot guys?
I've never seen anyone use this.
I saw one lose with it you know, our game.
Who even placed?
Okay! Sorry Viper... Well, I'm not sorry Viper players.
That's good to hear deserve any sadness from us.
Alright, Thunderbolt! This is for Rolling Thunder for Pangolier.
Rolling thunder movement and turn speed increases but duration is decreased.
Very interesting. Pango, very popular hero guys.
Ten.
Never seen ten.
Ten!
This is it?
Why?
I've never seen anyone take this one instead of that other one.
What was the other one?
I forget.
Double jump.
Oh, the double jump oh the double job that one's that one's good damn 10.
okay that's really interesting because pango was such a popular hero you really think it's
that bad but other facets improved and this one i've never seen it
okay all right i won't ask any questions you guys are the experts soul strike
passive effect for revenge this is the one that lets her range attacks be melee attacks? Fight.
It's kinda good
you get more attack speed from it right
the base attack time
I'd say 4
Four, okay 5 or four? No, four.
Okay we're getting down to the wire here guys
do you like uh did you play dota 1 did you guys or that's an old generation
though uh you don't have it used to look in Dota 1, that's why they put it in there where the little bench goes in?
It was like a bug.
How did it look actually?
It looked like...that! If you take the passive it looks like her model attacks the other person.
She just moves and attacks them.
Yeah, I think it was a bug. It was cool though!
Alright, the other one for Venge...
This is the Avenging Missile.
Every time that you get a last hit it
deals 0.75 bonus damage for every creep the enemy
has last hit what's the lowest one we have yeah
the lowest one the lowest one we have left. The lowest one? Come on dudes!
Did you put six?
You still have six available.
Go six.
Wow, six on that one. That's right in the middle of the pack.
You guys think that's pretty good then?
Why isn't that one so good
it's not even that bad obviously i played some bench support with this and i don't know do you
like okay do you see the difference though if you go late and you play against...
And you queue someone who has a lot of last hits,
of course it's going to be like 600 damage.
Yeah.
See, the saddest part, though,
to me about that one is
Lifestealer wants to get the most last hits and this Venge
would counter it but you know he has innate magic resist so that's not
really good. I'm not sure that's how it works.
Whatever, okay and our last two guys we're getting close
to number one here so I hope
you get focused up
Beast Mode Inner beast for Beastmaster
can be activated to increase his
attack speed and allow him to apply
the wild axes debuff
on his target. So you have one
two and four right? Left.
No, you already used four.
You already used two.
Really this is the best one out of the ones you've said so far?
This is a great facet yeah really it is we're gonna see a lot of beastmaster come on he's master good yep why just because of this fashion
tell me about i'm a beastmaster noob! Argon in fast, you know take some stacks get fat even if he loses lane
A lot of things
The Drummers of Sloan
He can solo Rosh also
Yeah he can solo Rosh
Solo Rosh?
My people don't know this Okay this is some secret information now
this uh actually has worth this content piece wonderful
next up is necrotic webs from broodmother reduces health region
enemies in the webs this sounds good what's left
uh i don't remember but no we didn't put two brilliant yeah two more then i thought you had
two i'll go through this one. Yeah, this is too.
Actually the list became really good with these last ones.
Okay!
I think we got it.
You know editor?
I hope they didn't pick 2.
I thought they did but perhaps they didn't.
Whatever number it is... There it is editor thank you so much
so the broodmother is good though yeah that's pretty nice like what does it do for a new ceiling
and you put it on all the links at the start and all the tangos, bottle and all of this region gets weaker.
Yeah.
So you can buff your other lanes.
That's actually next level.
You don't need to do anything Omru just put it on the other lanes and we can noise them so much
so could you play support broodmother then pause five brute
and go to each lane just do that what do you think bangalore it's not that good. Okay, alright well we did our best. How do you think it went overall? Are you proud of what you've done?
I think it went pretty well.
Yeah, I think it was a pretty good ranking.
The last ones really clutched it up.
All right, well fantastic.
Much like you guys,
clutching it towards the end
so well done.
Very proud of you Mouse
thank you for taking time
and we'll see you guys next time
on some more facet rating action.
Bye-bye!
Just walk with me, dude.
Uh?
Don't do that!
Don't do what?
You were a professional at TI... Which TI was it?
Professional what?
Talent!
Oh, 7th. Oh, seven.
Yeah because you were a player...
I guess we started the interview by the way.
Yes, we did.
But you're professional talent first before your professional
player at TI right?
I suppose that is technically true.
Why won't you go outside with me?
Because it's hot and I like not being hot.
Can you sing the electricity by
that one guy who was at every Dream League?
No, I can't. It's overplayed.
What about Welcome to the Black Parade by My Chemical Romance?
It's not Karaoke Night either.
Could you sing that song if we were doing Karaoke Night?
Theoretically sure.
What's your favorite song to do on karaoke night?
We'll say Muggle of the Black Parade.
Don't do weird noises with your mouth.
It's going to have to get cut because it does things to the microphone.
You're not a professional.
Sorry.
Okay, sing Welcome to the Black Parade with me.
I'm not singing yet.
When I was
A young boy
Nice.
What happened when you were a young boy. Nice.
What happened when you were a young boy?
Don't! My father took me into the city. What did you see?
A marching band.
Okay. Sing it, dude.
No. It's for content.
I don't care about content.
This has been an interview with Quinn.
This has been quite thought-provoking.
Provoked my thoughts.
And back to you.
Where is your team?
Okay yeah, I'll go harass them. Thank you.
Tofu, celery whoever that was.
This is Jenkins Dota and I am here behind the scenes at the Esports World Cup, Dota 2 Riyadh Masters.
And we're gonna go check out Game and Gladiators, the best team in the world.
Sorry, best team in the world. Sorry, best
team in the world?
Can I show you some videos and
give your reaction to them?
Uh, okay.
That's good. Okay, so this one is a TikTok song.
Do you know TikTok?
Yeah.
Yeah big...
It's a cute vibe.
Can you not interrupt the video?
Okay, sorry bro. I just thought you wanted me to talk since it's in my...
No, it's kidding. I'm just trying to watch.
Well, as they mic it, we're not supposed to talk.
That was a 45second clip of that.
It's 10 minutes long though.
I'll send you if can I get your Discord?
You're going to spam me?
I'm not.
I might send you an invite to a Counter-Strike tournament.
Okay then, I'm pretty good at Counter-Strike.
You like win free Arcanas?
So I suppose.
Do you like TikTok?
Uh... nah it's uh, it's a bit too time consuming. Do you like TikTok?
Nah.
It's a bit too time consuming.
Don't have time for that.
Do you try to stay off of social media because you think it's a waste of time?
Exactly.
I think playing Dota
might be worse than going on
TikTok. Ladies and gentlemen, this has
been JenkinsDota in behind the scenes with GameGladiers
and with...
Thanks for checking us out. Yeah, we're doing an interview now I guess.
Okay.
He just turned it on.
I don't know he's following me turning it on.
You got any questions for me?
Or should I ask you something? He just followed me turning it on. You got any questions for me?
Or should we ask you something?
You can ask me questions!
What is your outfit today?
I'm going for like a...
They might censor this because of copyright
but Criminal Minds
Do you know the guy from Criminal Minds?
Yeah Which one? Copyright, but Criminal Minds. You know the guy from criminal minds? Yeah
Which one you don't know? Do you do that normally we're like somebody brings up a thing and usually want to continue the conversation
So you say you know the thing just so they continue
But then I ask about it
And then you're like I shouldn't have committed
to that.
No not really if I don't know at all like ask more about it.
Because your high risk because somebody asked me about Shrek the other day and I didn't
know what it was and they bring up this, there's apparently a donkey in it.
You don't know Shrek?
Not personally. Well, I do.
He's not really... You don't even know the movie?
Do you know Shrek personally?
I do, yeah.
I think that's Mike Myers.
Yeah.
Which was also a killer in...
I don't know Mike Myers though.
...in Halloween.
I don't know Mike Myers.
You know Shrek personally?
I only know Shrek personally.
Why are you slowly moving away from me
i don't know man it's getting weird
i guess uh someone switched with me?
Do you have any question or it's just like, me pouring my feelings out.
Do you write poetry?
You look like the type of guy that writes poetry.
Not recently no and probably also not before then
No, I haven't really gotten into it at all actually.
That's a really good response!
That's like very you response.
Yes.
What is the most heartbreak that
you've ever felt in your life?
It's deep, real quick I guess.
Not sure bro.
It's hard to come up with that stuff on the spot in front of other people
Do you think pain adds depth to people?
Yeah, I mean probably for sure.
But it's also when you go through stuff
then you can relate easier to others
and be more empathetic
like feeling with them.
And vulnerability is one of the best ways to deepen your friendships
and relationships, right?
I guess that's an easy way to open up.
Easy so to say but like to connect with others and open up, easy so to say but like to connect with others and
open up and get to know
other people better or letting
other people get to know you better
I appreciate the insight. Thank you for sharing
This has been janks over behind-the-scenes
Alright, go to another thrilling edition of Facet Blind Ranking. I am here with heroic best in the world here we got analog and kj how you doing jim's hello guys
three times today i know who you are analog areog. Are you worried about this?
Yeah, people have to know, you know.
Every time they say Analog KJ, the Brazilians...
Just so we don't be the same, you know.
I am Analog! That is Analog!
Today will be like you no thank you i hope not getting more adult ears
and I'll be like you.
Oh, thank you!
I hope not.
Don't play...
don't end up
like me my friend.
Enjoy the hair
while you have it.
Let's play our game
here today.
I'm going to give
you guys facets
that you're going
to rank them
from 1-10,
one being the best and 10 being the worst.
The trick is that I'll only be giving you one at a time.
Are you familiar with facets?
Have you memorized all of it like good players?
Yeah, I think we work with that.
I think we know some of them.
Part of our job.
Alright, fantastic! Well let us begin then
with our first one.
Quick wit!
No, I'm going to test combat on you.
Quick wit, Darkseer's passive he gains attack speed as he gets more intelligence.
This is your first facet, You must rank it 1 through 10.
I know my offlaner always takes this facet, so I would say it's a...
Oh wait! It's just the facet because what makes it broken
is the facet plus the innate.
So it's just the facet, you know?
Assume the innate is good as well
I don't know if Dax is innate
but...I think his facet
is good! Like, I would think
6. Huh?
Yeah!
What do you mean?
One is the best, right?
One is the best, yes.
It's like three.
If you count the innate together...
Okay one is the best one okay I got it.
We have to decide that so we're counting in eight together?
Yes!
Of course.
So there's a two thing.
Yeah for sure.
It's like two if you count them together.
Two or three? I'll say four. You can have three then.
No, you can't have three! You're a team!
We have one. Not you, not me.
It got nerfed.
It did get nerfed.
Okay, four.
That's pretty high but okay, four it is!
Alright very good. So you guys don't have a lot of Darkseer experience then
as I heard from this discussion?
No we have.
It's every game, every game banner pick so.
Oh okay well all right, very well.
So next up is One Man Army, this is from Axe.
You know, axe gains strength based on his armor as long
as he's away from his allies.
Nine. Super nerfed.
Yeah super nerfed.
Nine?
Alright it's nine.
All right.
It's a nice one as well because... Can I choose one?
Because you chose the other one.
Yeah, I'll go for nine.
Okay, nine it is.
All right.
So this one is... You just don't get this one because
it's way too nerfed now?
Is that accurate?
We were doing the combo with A-Nate and he was not
that strong anymore after he got nerfed.
Sure, sure we were seeing that in almost every game.
Did you guys enjoy the axe time did you see any of Sure, sure. We were seeing that in almost every game.
Did you guys enjoy the axe time?
Did you spam any of that on your pubs and try any of it?
I just played my role but we...
I just play mid when the Manta works
Oh my god those were good to know your attack was no it wasn't very
that's not a good time defense x was when you buy two stout shields in dota one holy
shit and then you go through vanguard this double stealth shield, that was nasty stuff.
That's only for the bald guys in the chat there so yeah, for sure.
Okay next up is Enchantress' Spellbound and cast range of enchant
is increased if the enemy as a hero
Enchantress has increased attack range against that target. You're the enchant
expert I live for you, I just trust you enough to say the
number or trust you. Damn! Another even say the number and I'll trust you.
Damn!
Another even contested.
How good is this one?
If we count the unit together...
Why do you keep saying that?
You have to count the innate.
You don't get to deselect the innate.
This was like an ability draft of fast you can put on here...
How good are they in the world of Dota? Against each other?
Nine! Nine?! This is nine?! I don't know. I'm not sure.
Nine, nine. Nine?
This is nine?
Wait, the Axe wasn't nine, the Axe?
No, the Axe was eight.
The Axe was eight, yeah.
Ah, it was eight.
I hope there's no worse ones, you know? Otherwise we don't have slots for them.
Actually, we want enchantments and then they ban my enchantment because they think I only play with hero.
Okay so this one is going for 9.
Nine it is.
Okay, full trust.
Is that something?
Yeah, I love him in contesting.
He's the inch expert.
Everyone bends it otherwise you're gonna lose even with the nine faces.
Damn! Even as an expert, how do you think about her in 8?
What do you think about that one?
The double neutral item.
Is that a meme or is that actually good?
It's kind of mean, but in theory I think what the big brains of Dota thought was like
you get the team super fast because you farm jungle and then your team gets super fast
cause H is usually for tempo right sure
we're gonna play fast so if you get faster neutral items for everyone in theory you're going to have
a power spike for like the eight minute room at seven you get lots of 8-mail tritons
and if you're good,
you can catch them in the air.
You know that?
What?!
So you can catch it in the air!
Yeah, when I have one
it goes to base
other one right?
Yeah yeah
But if you are fast enough
we can catch them in there so you can give to your mate other one, right? Yeah. But if you're fast enough
we can catch them in the air
so it gives to your mid.
Oh!
So you like put yours
on your backpack slot
then catch it while
it's in midair?
No, just catch
the other one
and go for a backpack.
That's some crazy-ass meta.
Okay, got it.
All right, speaking of catching things in the air, this is Leeching Leash.
This one pounce applies to sacks of essence shift when striking enemy heroes.
So you get this for Slark,
you pounce and you get an essence stack.
I don't even know that was a face-off.
Yeah me neither,
this is my first time what the hell is this?
That sounds wild!
I didn't even know the order, just know the Barracuda
Yeah there's a
Barracuda one. The Barracuda that's right
Well this is not Barraco- so this
No but the Barracuda is in eighth
It's not the other person's...
Alright, I don't even remember it exists honestly.
Okay so where are we putting it? 9 and 8 has already taken...
7.
Yeah 7, not that bad.
It has to be 7!
7?! I mean... Yeah, 7. Not that bad. It has to be 7! 7? Okay.
You think this is better than Axe?
No it's 7 or 10.
The Barracuda is OP.
But that's not the Barracuda. That is NOT the Barracuda!
Oh, it is in 8?
It is right?
You work with this game, you have to know.
I understand no one else in this game has ever talked about a Nate's.
This is all your talking about. This is all you're talking about!
It is fast, it is a fast game!
What the f***?
Okay, seven is good.
Oh, it's ten. No, I think it's 10 actually. Pulse and get the edge.
No pulse and get the edge is a good thing. I think probably people will get this one.
That's true. So it's 7.
Okay sounds good!
Okay going sounds good.
Okay, going on to the next one. Unbreakable! This one is for Lone Druid.
The spirit lake only damaged by Spirit Bearer heals Lone Druid
and Lone Druids morph his Spirit Bearer into an enraged form that gains bonus armor, cooldown 75% on Entain Queen Claws.
We don't have a Lone Druid expert...
But we had one... We had one.
Last year our offlaner
he played like 25 pubs of
Lundrid and didn't lose a single
one when we were playing TI
so he managed to not play Laundry that single game
because everyone banned it.
That's fantastic!
Yeah, so what I remember from it
and from his words in the new laundry is that here's garbage.
Okay.
So, I'm betting for a 10 more than a 6.
Wow!
It's 10, it's 10 for sure.
This is a 10?
This is the worst one?
Okay.
Yeah, that's unfortunate.
Are you guys sad you don't see Lone Druid these days?
You like Lone Druid?
I like it but not that much.
All right next up is rewards and rewards. But... Not that much.
Alright, next up is Rewards of Ruin
This is an innate I think or is this a fossil?
Pugna receives 1.5 spell amp per destroyed enemy tower
they save the trash ones for last now damn spell amp per tower.
That's good for our Pokemon, man. Kappa.
It's not good!
But we don't have more...
Top 11.
Alright guys, where are we putting it?
The lowest you can go now I believe would be 6.
Yeah, for a Pokemon meet is very fine.
Very fine!
So yeah, six is fine. Very good, isn't it? So yeah six is fine. That was good.
Six is fine.
It's way better than the one man army for mex here.
Oh the one man army that is true okay okay. Sounds good.
Let's put that in there then.
Jesus, that's so bad.
What do you mean it's bad?
It's too damp for towers.
I think it's 1.5.
1.5!
Jesus...
That's strong, no?
Okay.
If we take three towers which we can certainly do as Pugna...
It's like a Kaya. How much time is the Kaya?
I think it's eight.
Basically a Kaya!
It's a Kaya after three towers.
That's pretty good.
If the Pugna was pause 1, he would not get this
in any way. He'd get a...
Alright next up, Frostbound
Chainfrost lingers on
its target if it fails to bounce can bounce again the new
target is available this one is OP. really?
This one is OP! Okay, what's your rank of that?
It's like 2.
The here itself may not be that good, but the facet... Just the facet is good.
Okay we don't have a 1 yet, we don't have a 3.
So this is a solid two?
It's coming out of face it. No but this one is good.
I think that two is fine even the here not being that good.
Okay, that's two!
The next one gonna be like super trash one like down breaker
something like this we'll talk about the next one the next one is lunar orbit
moon glaives rotate and provide damage reductions while active on Luna.
That's good, that's not the shard?
No.
I don't know what the shard is.
You were grilling me about not knowing **** You don't know Luna, Shard?
I'm support!
You have to know everything you work at the game.
That's true that's true.
So where are we putting this one Lunar Orbit guys?
It's 4 or 5.
Not that bad. It's good for 5. I'm not sure...
It's good for Luna jungle, so...
Oh, I don't know. I'm down for...
I'm down for five.
I never see the zero in...
Five is fine.
Five is fine?
Since the faces come i never saw zero again
okay all right you think we're ever gonna get support so so so so so so A very good evening to everyone.
You are watching Riyadh Masters and today we are crowning our champion here at the Esports World Cup live from the Kidia Arena.
Before we get to our grand finals though, I want to just recap
The last three weeks that we've had and to do that I have a wonderful panel with me.
Kezu, how are you feeling?
Oh, I'm feeling good! You know there's a lot of Dota that has been played
more than will be played today
And you know a lot of dreams that will be shattered
but you always think the losers get the winners and you know a lot of dreams that will be shattered but there's we
you know you always need to lose us to get the winner so i'm excited
afi welcome back on the panel okay are you ready for our grand finals
i'm very excited you know i am here while while our boy BSJ is doing something very exciting.
Secret?
Secret and exciting but always looking forward to some action-packed Dota issues.
Yeah! And we've had a lot of action packedpacked dota already fair i want to take you back
to the plains it was a long time ago there were a lot of teams that had a lot of hopes
and dreams there was and a couple them came of that Plains looking pretty good as well.
But unfortunately some had to go home so it's just like the group stage.
So yeah I think I believe which team was doing the best?
Entity were doing really well.
Yeah, Entity was the one that was really crushing it through
the Plains. They got pretty far but unfortunately
none of the playing teams did reach you
to the final day which is
kind of how it goes. You are on the planes for a reason. No
big upsets? No big upsets. I
think when I think about the play-ins
and the road of some teams
the ones that stand out for me
is Niles not making it
out of the play-ins
and LGD making it a
lot further, Kezer,
than I thought.
I mean, LGD just
kind of had the power
up here.
You always have the
teams that progress
a lot throughout
this tournament,
which is also...
Even the teams that lost in the tournament, which is also even the teams
that lost in this tournament.
Honestly, they're still here like in spirit
because the meta that develops
in these tournaments
is from all the teams playing
and losing and helping each other.
So you know,
you always have to lose it
but they're still here today. Yeah, you know, you always have the losers
but they're still here today.
Yeah I mean there's
always the teams that excel
in situations where
you don't expect them to
we already talked about
Entity from the play-ins
but there was also Blacklist
and Heroic who fell off
really hard by the time the group stages. We had Falcons going 0 and 4 on the first day, then
crushing all of the other
days. We had teams that
we expected to get topped
at the bottom and vice
versa so a lot of
interesting things went
on this entire tournament
for us.
The team is really
strong. They're very
competitive. They have great players in their team. teams that we expected to get topped at the bottom and vice versa. So a lot of interesting
things went on with this entire tournament.
I forgot to mention PSG Quest was in the playoffs
and they did way better than all the other
teams you mentioned, so sad
to leave them out but they far exceeded most people's expectations yeah
no i was going to mention that don't worry we were not going to forget that because
I think for PSE Quest, they probably left the most lasting impact of all
the teams other than you you know, the final three
teams that people were expecting to do well.
But PSG Quest is going home with
a lot more fans and people rooting
for them in the future. Yeah, I mean, them being
Spirit alone was just like, okay okay this team is the real deal.
They're beating the Goliaths of land Team Spirit and then they went on three games with Falcons so that was super impressive.
Incredibly impressive! We also had OG that didn't do
as good as some other people were expecting
and now people are speculating
is Seb going for another retirement
not being a family man at all? We had a great
skit about that. Actually, we've had fantastic uh skits
and little videos about that and that is all thanks to our content team that is very hard at
work always i can't believe ideas continue Content ideas, content ideas.
Okay.
Oh!
Okay I got it.
Arteezy has a sleep paralysis demon shadow theme huh?
Okay alright too obvious sure. theme and shadow theme, huh? Okay.
Alright. Too obvious. Sure.
Oh! Dota 2 award show!
Dota 2's been around for like
18 years. How come we don't have an award show?
Perfect! Come on bro! That's actually a good one! For on bro that's actually a good one it's not a good
one think about it actually think about it imagine what a dota 2 awardshow would actually look like.
Thank you, everyone.
Welcome back to the Dota 2 Defense of the Awards show for the video game Dota 2,
Defense of the Ancients.
We are here now to announce the winner but before we get into that
let me remind you one more time of your nominees.
Fear! 23 Savage, Fy and ATF. And the award for most excited victory celebration goes to... Fear!
Come on up here, Fear.
Come get your award, buddy.
Excuse me. come get your award, buddy! Uh...
Where is it?
Hello? Here?
Oh.
He's gone. Okay.
Oh! This is a huge one!
Let us now begin
our induction into the Hall of Fame.
This one is for those Dota players
that have been around so long but are still here
and kicking butt today.
Ladies and gentlemen, you know him,
you love them please welcome Puppy.
Oh he's not here okay That's okay because there are plenty of other good old players to be inducted in his stead.
Ladies and gentlemen put your hands together for Kuroki.
The Hall of Fame inductee is sue male oh it's miracle okay
mind control he's actually good he's's not here, I thought...
Great!
And best seating position,
Boxy 33
Ramsey and Blitz
And now it is time for a crowd favorite, we have team fight of the year!
Your first nominee
is gonna be Heroic
versus Gaming Gladiators at ESO
One Birmingham. Next up BB Team vs gladiators at esl one birmingham next up bb team verse the tormentor
at esr1 kuala lumpur you know this one it's boxy's lion stun at esl One Kuala Lumpur.
And Gabi and Abed at the Blocklist International Teamhouse
And the winner is...
Of course, boxes lion stud'S LION STUNN!
And he is a one-tunnel on four!
Look at that stun! Unbelievable!
What do you have? Ha ha! Put your hands together.
And you're final category of the night, thank goodness
is gonna be
least retired player of the year. Your nominees are
Chris Ame!
Oh! Get Ame!
Get Ame's name out of your f***ing mouth.
Hey, do you have something that...you wanna say about Ame?
You want to give me a hug. What are you doing up here?
Oh!
So, sleep paralysis demon?
Yeah, yeah, sleep paralysis demon.
Okay, let's go.
007 Every time it cracks me up, Kezu. There's just so much like originality
to come up with these things.
Flax and whoever else is behind these,
they're just S tier.
And working all the little nudges of memes
not just Dota 2 related but...
Yeah, and also that all these players are here
for all these bits.
All of them. All of them. All of them? that all these players are here like all these bits awesome
no it's uh it's been fantastic watching everything it's gonna be fantastic watching the grand finals as well so it is time to start talking about our grand finals.
It's game and road for us, since the group stage we played many games but in some games we struggle a lot we find out how we want to play and this is probably the reason like why we are here right
now they just keep on going they just keep pushing forward even at half HP.
This event could easily be the biggest event of the year for us.
I think the journey for us to get to this point has been a bit of a mix of up and downs.
In two months they have to use the arena, try and bail him out, push back with the
God's Rebuke 33 runs him down all the way to the mountain
in a power shot to finish him off!
We didn't feel like we win or lose but
they were feeling that we went to the finals
almost 100%.
Everyone is really confident and everyone is ready to own.
Just hoping he has the damage to finish off Roshan, it's not even close!
Meanwhile Omar is going for the kill on the Brewmaster
This guy is gonna get off his old plan...
Actually look at the corner! They just call it!
It's done! They're out!
Falcons know they can't beat gaming gladiators
whenever they hit their peak.
You learn to adapt and overcome struggles,
we've come so close so many times
and winning would mean everything.
They drew it back for all of that
and got nothing out of the two eyes on their chaos right oh my I think Team Liquid, for some reason, I don't know how it works but they had some issues
and struggled a lot in the grand Finals so you can feel it in the game.
So I hope we won't also be mentioned about struggling a lot.
I think even if you're out of your league, all is as strong with me
for the UGS along in the tournament and beating them
in grand finals I feel like would be icing on the cake. Got a little bit exposed going up against
gladiators but now we're back and they cannot wait for the people so i think coming into this
we are more prepared I don't know, we always beat them in the finals.
And I think they're scared of us.
We win 3-0, 20 minutes, 30 minutes match.
Cannot wait for the der to truly is a beaker as we look at the jamil motorsport player arrival of our grand finalists here at this Real Masters.
It is good to remember that there
is no beef between these players,
but we do like to play it up a little bit.
I love how confident Tarascio was in that interview, Effie?
I love to hear it.
I love to hear it.
I mean this is the El Clasico
you can't change
the script
It seems like
You know
you can have a filler season,
maybe Falcons with the filler season of Dota 2.
But we are back to what we've been seeing
in the end bones of the last competitive year
which is just game versus Liquid Grand Finals. and it has uh not been ending well for team
like this will be the second no sorry the six grand finals they go up against each other
uh which is a lot of grand finals, but not a single one.
Well, the five before this,
not a single one was taken by Team Liquid and Fear.
We got some stats to look at regarding grand finals appearances.
And not this one. This one is a little bit ahead of its time.
Yeah, this is mine should I just roll with it?
Yeah go roll with it!
Because we have gaming that
we know how good they are
They expose Liquid
like you also heard in the video
and these are some of the heroes
that they play You have the CK you have the Chimera exposed Liquid like we also just heard in the video and this is just some of
the heroes that they play you have the CK, you have the Chen, the
Brew and the Weaver what do all these heroes do? They play aggressive. They have
good lanes, they're gonna stomp you if they get ahead they're gonna
end the game fast they're going to take roles build auras. These are their recent
game times in their last two matches against the best teams in the tournament
33 minutes, 33 minute 28 minutes and 29 minutes so I think if you're Liquid
looking at this obviously they lost very hard.
They know how to adapt because they had a big drafting issue in their series.
So looking at this, I hope that they adapt but
they already showed some better stuff against Falcons in the series just now.
They really did,
The question is will they survive those first 20 minutes?
We're gonna find out because as we can see
in the records and this time
that she said I wanted to share with you
This is Grand Finals appearances and victories of all the players.
We must remember that for the RACI TOEFLIN CELERY,
This was all last year, they have done fantastic
but these are high numbers
Yeah, they definitely are, especially Ace
I didn't really expect that one
Ninjas in Pajamas
All he does is win there and whenever Gaming Glider gets to Grand Finals all he does is win there and whenever Gaming Gladiators get into the Grand Finals
All they do is win as well. If Liquid's on an enemy team at least but we'll have to see in this one
We'll be able to bring it back and we're going to see the opposite here where we have just a couple
but no nisha on his probably days of secret yeah most of those right and then you've got
a couple there on 33 with tundra i believe believe. But not yet with Liquid.
No and just as a reminder
the one finals that Boxy
Insania and Mikkei
won was in 2019
when they were still Alliance and it was the Summit.
And that is a very long time ago, especially considering since then
they have changed rosters quite a bit
and they've had some of the best players
and the world is also on their roster as well.
And it is about time, no?
It is. They have to be so hungry
for this win because not only
would it be finally a grand
finals win for these players but revenge against gaming gladiators who basically
dragged them down the entirety of the last year i do wonder though how confident they are going up
into it after you beat the lower bracket team to go into Grand Finals, that does have
to feel good because it was Falcons! Falcons won everything this year and they stomped them. It
wasn't even close so I was one of the cleanest 2-0s that I've seen in this tournament.
And that's got to be something that gives you confidence
in a way nothing else does, because a lot of people had Hawkins
as the winner of this tournament.
Yeah and I believe you were also here this morning
when the stat was shared, Effie
that...
Of all the Grand Finals this year
only once has the upper bracket team won
The rest is all lower bracket teams
You can't underestimate that lower bracket moment that's crazy i was not aware of that that is a pretty spicy this year 2024 specifically probably
different story from last years yeah what Yeah, what am I doing so?
But it's something else as well that they can try to take away.
They beat Gaming Gliders last year at Riot.
It was one of the few times where they did actually smack them
and played very well against them.
So that is like something you can take
of course you can take the series you played the other day
where you lost to them to try and adapt
And the momentum from this morning
I feel out of all the grand finals they've played
I believe in Liquid today to not get 3-0 storm, but show us like a very competitive series and who knows maybe even win.
I am slightly concerned because Falcons did not look like themselves today
They were playing too slow they're playing disjointed from each other and it felt like the the game. I think it was a really good matchup for them
because they were playing
themselves today, They were
playing disjointed from each
other and it felt like the
fundamentals of theirs were shaken up after their series anything from Likud's victory because it was clean. They did everything almost perfectly,
but the way that they lost to Gaiman yesterday
—they lost to Chen and Enchantress—
they lost because they picked Razor in a game
where Razor wasn't good cause their carry pool is limited
Those problems... they still have to exist
Cuzzurr. Yeah I think it's like also
especially that but there are other stuff
I really dislike some of the
Ember Pig... When you pick a hero
close the phase and ban two two heroes and then still something like
the Dazzle comes out which makes it unplayable.
It means that your pick on 18 was illegal
because no matter what great heroes
you banned, you're still getting stomped? There's an issue there.
There is an issue there. Fear I an issue there, Fjr. I want to focus a little bit more on the matchups
and maybe if you want to take it to the draft
that's fine as well but
I wanna talk about the support difference
we talked a lot about
tempo of play
and often times
that comes down to
sport play Yeah, mean it definitely can
and i think for right now we're talking a lot about liquid and what they need to improve
but because they're going against the goliaths right now this game in gladiators they haven't
had a single game in the playoffs that went to 40 minutes.
So speed is going to be the name of the game.
Celery, he's been playing a lot of fast tempo heroes especially the Chen and
he's still one that even pulled out on dying this tournament.
This is definitely a team that's gonna play fast they're They're gonna move very quickly, they're going to build all the auras
I really liked Tofu as well he's been adapting super well but
He's one of those position 4 players
That will just buy the aura, buy the glimmer cape if needed
When a lot of sports might be
a bit more greedy.
So they're all in on the idea
if we're going to play fast
and we're going to end the game
around that 20-30 minute mark.
Now how do Boxy and Insania
compare to that with that in mind?
They can, they definitely
Can it's just are they willing to because
They have like in the upper bracket showed a completely
Different play style from what we used
To see them win with and they went more for that
Team fight heavy, play a bit slower, pick the troll
and rely on that a bit more.
But we've seen them play very quick.
We've seen box people like Dawnbreakers
sure they didn't win that game
but hopefully they didn't lose faith from it be like oh this is a little out
of the box just go back to standard meta just keep picking the ores keep playing fast because
i think that's what you have to do to beat gaming gladiators yeah a lot of flexibility coming from
the supports as well no for sure and also like if you're looking at Liquid they need to be matching the speed right?
I don't want to see no disruptors today with some kinetic wall
I wanna see Insania's ET
Like also stuff like Hoodwink, Weaver
Weaver is a hero that owns in these games
you need to match Gaiman's tempo
Like they know it we know it
so they have to show it with their type of hero picks
and how they play the game
And the support picks are going to be instrumental
because gaming gladiators You see them over and over again.
You talk about their auras in their five men but you have to break it down into how they get to that point right?
A huge chunk of why they can get to that point is the support rotations
to them and playing.
The rune security for Quinn,
the early rotations to get that mid tower early
and then aggressively enter the jungle
or the triangle through that tower.
So Liquid have to have supports
that are able to match that pace instantly
It can't be something that loses in lane
And then has to TP mid, your refill bottle
Walks back to the lane, mid gets ganked
We can't see any of that today
No and with that in mind if you want the supports to be freed up
that means our offlaners they have to have something that is fine
even if you know their four leaves a little bit of fear yeah i mean i think
the all-trainers certainly look out for it i think we have a lot more a little bit of shit. Yeah, I mean, I think the offlaners
to really look out for it.
I think we have
a lot from Daemon Gladiators
and of course
Underlord
and Brewmaster
is going to be
the big one
going into this one.
I think we struggled
a little bit on 33 earlier on the turn of the Brewmaster. He had like a 25% win rate.
They scrapped it for a little while
and then once they lost
to Gaiman with it,
they pulled out just earlier today
tried a different build
and now it's back.
So I think he figured out
what the problem was there.
So we're going to see a lot of overlap
in some of the heroes that 33 likes to play.
Brew is going to be a big one for sure
and outside of that it's going to be the Doom.
This is a hero that Liquid have not lost with
and this is kind of here hero that builds orbs,
but also counters a lot
of the healing strategy on top of it.
So these are going to be big offlaners look for him.
Yeah like for me Dota right now
It's all about like the small things
obviously the draft and also your gameplay
how fast do you get to your timings how do
your lanes go how can you rotate around the map so every little pick and like every play in all
these lanes it matters so much that these two teams they need to adapt and constantly like
improve like even gaming gladiators probably looked at what Liquid did just now
you know, Falcons gave them the Monkey King that's very likely something gaming will not do
but all these small things, they will matter more than ever in this series. Yeah and with
that in mind, I mean we like in terms of diversity
I would say after the role has been least diverse for both
The squads has been the carry role from Mickey and the retro.
Yeah it feels like the ratio inio in particular loves his CK
where he'll pick it in almost every game.
You know if the Weaver is in it,
He'll take a two but this kind of works even though
the carry pool's limited because the carries that
he puts himself on are these really early game high
tempo carries, that can rotate through the gate early get that top power but also sit
on lane and do nothing so that the supports can move around. Because you talked about
the offlaner needing to be self-sustaining so the supports can be around. Because you talked about the offlaner needing
to be self-sustaining
so the supports can be freed,
the same thing applies
to carry chiefs.
Whereas with Micke,
he's playing the more
ranged carry archetype
where we're seeing
a lot of trolls,
we're seeing a lot of TAs,
a lot of razors
but we haven't actually seen him pivot to that melee self-sustaining type of carry the way Duraccio has.
Yeah, the way you can want to if you want Insania to go through a portal and make something happen there.
Well unless you have really good lanes which of course go through a portal and make something happen there.
Well, unless you have really good lanes which of course is
something they can do I feel like they're a little bit similar
with the Rachu and Mikke in terms of they want to play fast
They play off their lane maybe they can go through the gate
and help their team but it is true
like what mira was saying that you're not going to see mickey on like a naga siren
but i also don't think you're gonna see the rachi on like some theater thousand
nine certain like one v five again it's very much play for your team play
for the tempo and when it comes together you're going to win.
And when something falls flat,
it just doesn't look that great.
It just does not
and I think a lot of pressure is gonna also be on
the coaches of both teams because
there's a lot of data and a lot of what if and buts that can come into play
with the series like that especially when it comes to best-of-five and i would love
to hear some words from blitz who Purge was talking to earlier today.
Hey, I'm here with Blitz of Team Liquid. They won their series earlier today
which got them to this point but I want to talk
about how your journey was
for the previous year, basically.
Last year you guys had an amazing year
and got a lot of second places
What's it feel like now to be back in the finals?
Honestly I feel a little bit indifferent
because I know what it is like to get second place
I don't know what it's like to win.
It's been quite some time since we've had a big win.
For me,
I think the last LAN that I was a part of
that we won
was ESL
when I was a part of DC
so it's been quite some time
and I think second or third,
like who cares at this point?
You know, it's the same thing.
So you talked a little bit about how
you guys have different play styles in gaming gladiators.
Does that affect your confidence
And does all of
that like collide with all the stress of going into this
tournament no i mean the thing is i know people will say
like we have no chance and stuff like that in past history but
that's that's on everybody else
to think.
I believe in my team to be able to do it.
Everyone is like, it's so obnoxious seeing them
in the finals again, the same exact one.
Well then somebody else should have beat us.
What can you do?
It's not like I'm just going to tell
my team let's lose to give somebody
else a chance at this biscuit.
No, we'll do it
100 times
and maybe on the
100th one
we'll be quitting
Gladiators.
I don't care how many
times,
we'll keep coming
for them.
Are you going
to do the tweet
nobody beats Liquid
99 times in a row?
Absolutely.
If we win
I don't want to jinx it obviously but I'm really popping liquid 99 times in a row. Absolutely. If we win,
I don't want to jinx it obviously but
I'm really popping off
because I feel like
my team really deserves it
but this team
is extremely good
and if it was easy
to beat them
somebody would have
done it before
for this tournament
but obviously it's a lot more complicated than that. Alright well easy to beat them. Somebody would have done it before in this tournament,
but obviously it's a lot more complicated than that.
All right, well good luck on your match and I hope you guys do well.
Cheers, thank you.
A lot more complicated than that indeed
and especially yesterday.
Hey Wanda, actually Fira Fer you've probably been in situations
like this where
you get knocked down in the upper bracket
You gotta go through the lower bracket to go further
You get to the Grand Finals
but you already played a team.
How much impact does it have? Even if it was a beatdown like that.
That's actually my exact TI5 run.
We got 2-0'd really badly in upper bracket.
We went down and played LGD.
It was like 2-0, I don't remember, 2-1, 2-0,
doesn't matter but we went into it the next game.
It's really about the talk you have after you lost in the upper bracket. That's
going to be everything because like
either you die up there and you're just like a corpse floating down to the lower
bracket or you're reinvigorated you're motivated
you win down there then you go into that grand finals
and you have that fire and you figured out your mistakes what do you which uh which side
do you think team liquid's on because it seems like they're he's got energy it's a lot it has to
be when you get owned the way they did in an upper bracket final,
Yeah.
You better have a good talk because people will be emotional and
be like guys what the hell is this? We can't do this again
This is what needs to be changed
So I have a lot of faith in them coming into today
knowing what needs to be changed and just showing it with the gameplay too.
Easy enough? Maybe not a very fast Grand Finals then Effie?
I would hope not! I want to see something incredibly competitive
but if Liquid... It's hard to fix everything with one talk overnight,
especially when there are multiple issues that were presented the day before.
And I do believe there were multiple issues that were presented.
Are they going to look at it and say
we lost Enchantress in chen
we lost to the dazzle versus ember we lost this dk what do we fix here because
there isn't enough time to do that if they can identify what they thought was
the primary factor for their loss and work only on that i believe in them
i think a lot of people around the world are thinking this could be the one
there's a lot of fans from both teams i think also for gaming gladiators we can't
sell the shot they are the ultimate rate boss here every up masters
and they have been looking solid this year they haven't gotten a first place title yet at a LAN
so we don't know how strong they'll be.
They're hungry for this just as much as Liquid is,
so let's get this final started
as we're heading over to BSJ first.
Aiden, my man,
this is not your first rodeo.
We've seen you here before. What's going to be different about today against Game of Gladiators? This time we're gonna smash them.
What makes you say that, my man? Are you feeling confident?
Yeah, of course! Did you see our last series?
I did but I also saw your series yesterday.
I don't remember the series.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Short-term memory?
Well let's see what happens in the finals or...
Excuse me.
I'm as nervous as they are right now apparently But Excuse me.
I'm as nervous as they are right now apparently,
but that...I'm actually way more nervous than you
and we're going to go ahead and let you walk out
and show that you're not nervous.
Thank you. Hello, turn this way.
I'm here with Game and Gladiators
and Quinn first off I have a gift for you.
Thank you. Okay you, sir.
Okay and I got a question for
you.
What are you going to do when
the crowd starts chanting let's
go liquid during your grand
finals?
Win. Okay pretty base though. Well, i'm gonna let you do that and
you can enjoy the the walk out here uh let's get into the grand finals so so so so so so so.
. so so so so so so so so so so Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for Grand Finals!
Four days of play-ins, five days of groups
And six days of playoffs have culminated in this moment.
We brought 20 teams here
And now we're left to just two.
Two powerhouse remain, gaming gladiators crushing their opponents with speed throughout the whole upper bracket
but now they've been waiting all day to see who's
worthy enough to face them in this
Best of Five and they are ready to claim
their first LAN title of the year
Last year that would have seemed
preposterous! They were dominating the scene making every other team look like chumps
Specifically one opponent in particular Team Liquid
Team liquid has been having their run in the upper bracket,
knocking down Real Masters 2023 reigning champions.
Winning 2-1 against Tundra Esports
but then they fell short against Gaming Gladiators
But now they have a chance to take revenge
and claim this trophy. A lesser team may have fallen faster,
but Liquid dusted themselves off quickly as they dominated Falcons 2-0 just hours ago and now we're
ready to see if they have what it takes again the best of five that's right and
we are ready to welcome the teams on stage ladies Ladies and gentlemen, it is my honor to
welcome the first Grand Finalists of FIAL Masters 2024! It is Team Liquid!
The Liquid Mastermind,
the tactical genius, one click away from victory, Insania!
The jolly assassin, the friendly force of destruction ex-machete
one of the best in the world never claimed a trophy of this magnitude the uncrowned King Misha
lot of these in his name but what's important is getting 3-0
and this best to five is 33.
No force be it natural or biological, has stopped this man from winning.
It's Poitras-based boxee! Beast Boxy!
And their eternal rivals, coming to the stage... It's Game and Gladiators!
Oh! All tournament long he's been cool and calm, but now he's finally here to collect. it's quinn sometimes it's a throw sometimes it's a go but no matter what facet this man chooses
he's gonna be making some dough!
D'Oraggio!
Don't let his diet fool you, because this man's a carnivore!
Celery!!!
The four position has never looked this good.
And I'm talking about the gameplay tofu
and this man's responsible for shooting down so many enemies in his career,
but now he's flying high after making it
through the upper bracket.
Ace!
And for the last time players please take your seats and place your keys as this may be your last chance to hold them. Nothing is granted, everything is earned. Then let's get this grand final started! so so Who will earn the title for champion here at Rehabmasters live from the Esports World Cup?
We're going to find out in the upcoming Best of Five.
But perhaps you already have a couple of ideas about who will do better in this series
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You know the drill, you know the track record and the history with these two teams,
these ten players on stage.
And I want to get into the nitty-gritty of this
because we talked a little bit about
oh Celery makes them ban Enchantress and Eng.
It's a best of five everything changes in the best of five because you might want to again let them through
have a plan against kazoo the thing is you need to like we talked before the whichever talk they had yesterday after
the series is very important because it needs to lead them to like the right conclusions
what they want to do cause yes when you play the best teams
You need to choose at least a couple heroes
you have to play against whichever ones you have the best plan against
whichever makes the draft feels the best and makes your players feel
the best so i cannot tell you whether they're gonna ban
ancient chen they struggled against it you know last night So I cannot tell you whether they're going to ban Ench and Chen.
They circled against it,
you know,
last night,
but maybe they feel like if we change something up,
we can just play against them.
Yeah.
I mean,
I have a slightly different take for there's always a weakness in the armor
for every team, and I think
for gaming gliders,
it is Dorachio right now.
He has played very few heroes successfully,
mainly the CK.
He's played pretty good
on the Broodmother as well.
And then what was one other hero he was playing as well?
He played Alchemist, Ursa.
Ursa is a hero so yes and those heroes are not even close to CK
So I think you really want to target Durachio
put him out of his comfort zone. Put him on
a Durachio moment type of hero right now.
The CK is way too good on this team
and I feel like it should be auto-banned. See if
you can get Durachio to play something new for the team when he
played heroes like Windranger and stuff like that in previous series,
the team did not look nearly as good.
So that would be my approach.
Yeah, the thing is you don't want
to overcorrect as well. And
even though Dorachio's hero pool has has been limited i think it's very good in
snooki's current hero pool too we saw how he picked ursa and nikki took razor anyway into
the ursula where a lot of people would consider versa asa a late game solution to Razor.
So what is the weakness in the armor
of Team Liquid, or did Gladiators
already kinda
hit the mark there yesterday?
I think they exposed them
just hardcore when it comes to strategy and
draft, I can't even tell you if
they really had a lot of
weaknesses in their gameplay because I feel like
there wasn't actually that much gameplay to be had. At least
that's my opinion when I watched the series
they had yesterday. Yeah, and I feel
like they just went out of their comfort
zone and by that more of like they
tried a different strategy that didn't fit the bill
of what they liked to do.
I think Liquid has a lot of good heroes so they can play Sven, Doombeast,
TA even the Chikiro are very high win rate heroes for them right now
and they kind of went away from
that in picking heroes like the Sand King.
If 33 isn't playing an Ori hero, I don't know if i can believe in Liquid.
I think that's pretty much what I boil it down to right now for them.
Yeah but I think the Chen Enchantress
fans can actually play in Liquid's favor
if the Beastmaster doesn't get banned
out by GG because we saw in the Falcon
series they did not ban out the
Beastmaster after the Chen Enchantment, and they just take it.
And honestly, it's by far 3-3's best hero this tournament when he does get it.
Even if the lane is unfavorable,
he will farm his way more efficiently than the other offlaner regardless
of the lane and
they'll play off
of that timing solo.
I mean there's
Doom as well in
the pool, Beast
and Doom both
made it through
with Chen
Ench.
I mean there's
obviously now like
you will have a
lot of damn good
heroes that will be in the pool so this is you will have a lot of damn good heroes that
will be in the pool so this is also where perhaps a lot of prep can
play into it. GG will just open up with a Jakiro which
has looked good, wouldn't say it's anything too spicy there but for
Liquid other heroes that are open up
that gaiman did not allow them to have last time is for instance the monkey king later on maybe
a more fling so it's like i'm just looking for liquid to make sure that they
get off with a good start.
You know, have the heroes that make you feel good and
you can lane into them and just play some good DOS.
I would agree with that one.
I think right now it's like you cannot let Liquid
have too much of a lead in the early game,
because they are one of the best teams in the world right now on gaming gladiators.
If you do manage to get them into good laning stage,
they're going to take Grosh and build every ore in the game
and then you'll somehow deal with that on the high ground
and that's not where you want to be. And Monkey King, this is great
Great hero. It's very versatile
Micke is incredibly good on this hero too
so it limits a lot of options
you want to pick for
just fitting your offlane right now,
because most of the offlaners right now don't enjoy playing versus Monkey.
You wanna be this strength tanky guy that builds Auras and Monkey definitely dissuades that.
It does, and it also kind kind of solves potential sand kings better in the pool
because it can follow sand king to either the mid lane or at the offlane which really is valuable
it's also the fact that nisha plays a good Monkey King too, I'm sure they would be
the most happiest if Mika just gets to play it in a good matchup but like Feroz mentioned
it's not that easy for a game into the kind of craft and offlane where
you feel really good about it Beastmaster of course is a great hero but can struggle against Monkey King
maybe there's stuff like, you can try to bust out some visage combo in the offlane
that many people don't play, but Monkey King is a hero
that needs to be addressed. This hero goes rampant in games
where he has a good early game.
You know what addresses Monkey King? Enchantress,
that simple. I mean Gaiman loves the pick anyway she can enchant
to dispel the jingling stacks on Monkey King,
can follow him to lane if he's position 4
as a position 5 and is overall
a general nuisance for this hero. Another
hero that I think should be
looked at when you talk about Zoo lineups
and auras is pure damage.
So we were theorycrafting Timbersaw
earlier in the first series,
it didn't look good
because of loss obviously
but there's potential
for something like that.
I mean,
not much was just so volatile right now.
It can't it can look pretty good or can look really bad.
It just really just depends on how
the laning stage goes there and we'll see what
the next fan into pick is going to be here.
We still are waiting for supports.
Sand King gets banned out anyway because they have the Monkey King on Team Liquid,
which means that their Sand King can essentially be protected.
I also want to talk about the heroes we saw Nisha play yesterday.
We saw him on the Tiny and the Pango.
We saw the Pango today, and both of those heroes looked really good for him
did tl give up on their tiny idea because they lost with it yesterday or are they
potentially going to run it back here i could see them skip the tiny, but Tango is too good.
I think this hero he's tanky, he's universal you build all of his stats
gives a great teamfight minus armor whatever you want
I really like at least so far what's happening for Liquid in this draft
You have your Monkey you feel great, Boxy on his Warp I really like at least so far what's happening for the Liquid in this draft.
You have your Monkey, you feel great.
Boxy on his Warfling?
I feel like this plus-four Warfling is incredibly strong, perhaps even underrated.
So honestly they must be feeling good right now.
Yeah, I mean they could also flex us to carry if like some Gyro
Copter comes out later, right? And I
really like, as I said in the pre-show
this CK getting banned. I feel
like if Gaming Gliders gets his hero
Dorotty doesn't care what he plays in. I saw him pick it
into like five counters.
He didn't care,
so I think
this is most likely
going to be
Darachka's hero
but Ace also
is really good on it
so both these teams
are being very open
with what they're
picking right now.
Monkey King could be four
could be carry morph i mean 2024 can't be support can't be carried so that's very interesting but
the question is the ck ban That's an issue they clearly saw yesterday
but because of that
They give away the Brood
Now followed by the Chen too
which is something
that they also struggled with yesterday
Do they have answers within
the Monkey King plus more flame?
They don't, honestly.
And now that the Root is here they need
some form of A-league ground damage
to either deal with the offlane Groot but if you're
building within your drafts to deal with offlane
Groot you can just swap it to carry and that hero is countered
completely differently than an Offlane Brood is.
Yeah I mean they're going to have to most likely
Morph. I mean Morph can be played for
Brood. It does hit a weird spot where when he gets
Spiders he get kicked out. monkey could be their carry and they
could just pick something the off lane now that i can deal with it i've seen slardar
get picked a lot but that's also another here that's very good against uh the broodmother
i'm sure team liquid has some answers here but the real question is are they
gonna answer this brood while still staying in the architect type of picking auras and being able to
five man because gaming has shown you can try and stop them
with a bunch of Aelee team fight.
Yeah. They just out heal it.
Yeah I mean the Pango here at least for now is very good
I was looking for like some counter team fighter
there's going to be a Jokiro Brute Chen running at you
what do you need against that?
It's counter team fight like Tide, Phoenix, Pangolier
so Pango already fits really well into that
I do now wonder if they're going to pick just
maybe Insanius hero then keep the rest
more open for later
Like who is really what
give last pick two three three
this hero pool could be kind of low because there's a lot of offlaners already banned out
but i do like to see him pango response here
yeah they'll have to dig pretty deep.
They're still Underlord and Tide as you mentioned
And a couple other heroes. What else has he played here?
I mean, you don't want Visage at all
Well, I love all these thoughts about the draft
Let's get some more in with MoonMeander
who is sitting down with her.
Hey, Moon. You called
the CM pick. What do you think about this draft so far?
I think it is heavily
flavored for Team Liquid
because Chen right now is countered by Pangolier
and Team Liquid's doing the same strategy they did against Falcons where
They banned Weaver, put Wing in Snap which means the last S tier four is Jokiro
to win the lane for ACE
which is Gaben's bread and butter
as to win the offlane.
However, the CM Monkey
has really good answer
that there's Jokiro or Brutemurder in my opinion. all right who's got the advantage right now with
the invoker pick i still think it's team liquid because invoker is not a good hero
tangly is going to out team fight Game and Gladiators line up right now
So not only are they gonna have a
Not as strong offlane this patch
They're also gonna get an out teamfight
This game, which is like
Opposite of what's happening all tournament long for
Game and Gladiators Alright thanks Moon of what happening all tournament long gaming gladiators
all right thanks moon thank you both with the invoker pickup he feels that
gaming gladiators is uh lacking a little bit compared to team
liquid fear yeah i mean i see that opinion a little bit compared to Team Liquid fear.
Yeah, I mean,
I see that opinion being pretty valid there just teamfight is going
to be lacking but they're definitely not lacking
a bunch of damage mitigation heroes.
Of course Brood has his own Lifesteal,
Chen buys all the auras.
I'm sure they're waiting
for this last pick
to really decide
how they want
to wrap this up.
As we mentioned earlier,
this Brood could be
their offlane,
it could be their carry.
We don't really know on the same side i think we do have
last pick on team liquid right so they will be able to choose is this morph to carry is
this monkey a four and then that gives them a lot of options if they're already with that alone.
Well, I do think the short Invoker
doesn't give you like the most team fight
and I liked Pango into Invoker as well
but he gives you a lot of like teamfight move ability right?
He can go through this Brood Lane
with the Chen,
he can get a Vessel.
He can kind of like offset the matchup potentially if there's some offlane Brood into the Monkey.
So I will agree with a lot of what was said before, of course, with the draft so far
but there is so much gameplay that also goes into these matchups
That you know I can definitely see this Quinn and Volker go
Kind of ham, yeah
You could also just
I don't mind putting Pango off lane in this game
If you know Gru to carry as well
And if you're like that something that 33 does play,
he'd be pretty comfortable with.
I would just be interested to see what he builds.
You know it would be cool
if we are actually worried about the pango flex
for offline is that you could just
pick Bloodseeker and do a flex between Brood
and Bloodseekers.
It would be open.
I think it's a very cool concept,
not sure if it'll come out here on the grand finals day
but they have done it before on GG where
they ran an offline Bloodseeker versus Blacklist.
Yeah, I mean that's definitely a possibility if they're really worried about the Pango there.
The only issue potentially would be...
I don't know if Bloodseeker
just be good versus the Pango.
So I guess you could take that out
but who's going to carry the game?
Guess the Brood still could do it.
Yeah actually kind of like that.
Yeah I'm looking and thinking right now
kind of what they want to go for.
Because the problem is you don't really know your matchup yet.
Like I am thinking maybe there's like some...
StarCraft is just such a bad hero and you have to pick it blind so scrap that back to you Fear.
I mean sure Ace, Ace doesn't play
Lows on Mars
at all. That's a hero that I felt could be okay
against Monking, but they're
not something Ace plays a lot.
So I kind of feel like Ace might play this Brood unless they...
I just don't know what Ace tier they're going to pick that's good versus Monkey King and Morph.
It doesn't seem like it exists, like Brood might be the best pick there and they're still the ace underlord even if it's
playing against monkey king online maybe they just value it so much as a hero but there's also wind
ranger which they could just decide to run on geraffes and i can have it counter both the pango
and donkey king also the bloodseeker idea that i'm pretty fond of but that would be really cool
if it's not the blood seeker then i think he's playing the brood on ace
because yeah i'm not sure if underlord is it's probably okay
it fits what they want to do but it's definitely not something you're going
to crush lane with and that's why they're really thinking
about this pig we just go with what's good and they're just gonna go straight into the beast
master here they don't really care about the cm monkey king matchup and i think if you're in
this position now let's see a monkey king should feel really happy in this thing now, the CM Monkey King should feel really happy
in this lane. Are we still sure that Monkey
King is going to be the carry? I feel like they should.
He has to be your carry now. If you're not willing
to pick CM Monkey into this lane, you might as well
give up. This is going to be one of the one of
the better lengths that are gonna be handed to you of course for gaming it will still give them what
they want and walker can go there later he's gonna build auras he's gonna get the eggs and stuff like
that i mean if i'm liquid i'm still, I don't know if there's any mid
that feels great.
If I want to pick an offlane here,
Tide still looks kind of cool
but they can also put a Pango offlane
and look for some Nisha.
They just played the Underlordlord is there a problem with that
you could puck versus invoker i put this got banned out gaming thought the exact same thing
they banned our two mid laners actually so keeping uh the pango on the off lane
in their heads yeah they will go for less 900 as a good call i mean i do think it just makes
a lot of they have like a very nice lineup so far like you have
gay men who generally just have to run
into you if i'm liquid i'm super happy
with my draft that tide owns a lot of
these heroes the lane matchup can
i'm not super knowledgeable nowadays how it goes but
Tide should be chill there you have your boxy Morphling
I feel like Liquid got everything they needed in this game to have a good draft
short game ender too but I actually favor Liquid in those drafts
yeah I mean their draft is really good
the one thing about the mid matchup you might not know
is that double jump gets cancelled by Tornado
so thats why then Fokker's picked against it
So that helps a lot
So the mid matchup should be good for Quinn
But I think Team Liquid has a very good lineup that responds to what Gaming Glider
has and it does what it needs to do as far as have auras
and stuff like that, but Gaiman has a gaming line up
will they just run them over? That's going to be the question for me.
I think this Tide Pick is great because
it kind of tanks a lot of things, right? It can stand
in the middle of the Chen army. It can't
get roared because it'll just dispel it
and it doesn't care about the Rude orcid timing whatsoever but I still think
that rude carry is incredibly powerful and has such a strong like 20 minute timing that even
though tales heroes can address it they might not be able to address it fast enough
because you're going to be very dependent on that Ravage
to fight which they really don't want in this game.
To me this game is a lot about like the first move
when Pango goes top does Brute go through
the gate?
How does Liquid respond
to this type of move?
Who wins the first one?
Because whoever wins
that move is kind of
going to have
the whole tempo
but I believe in Liquid.
Will it be a high-tempo
game then?
It has to be. It has to be.
From both teams.
We know Gaiman wants to do...
Whoa!
Disrespect.
I will say those odds are pretty favorable for Gaiman Gliators and to be honest they do have a good
track record to go with it let's see how game one of this best-of-five is gonna happen but first
some words from coach blitz you guys got to open with the Monkey King.
It gives you tons of flex potential and lane matchup advantages.
Do you think it put Gladiators in a bad place during the draft?
Yeah I mean we like the hero personally.
I'll always smash Monkey pick
they're aware of that too, they probably had some idea behind it
but yeah, we'll see if their
Giga Geniuses or we have to readjust
Do you think they adapted well enough,
or do you think that the Monkeys just kind of too good at a lane?
I mean when you play against Gladiators
your pretty much just trying to avoid hitting
death ball timing and Monkey's pretty good at that
so I can't say for Alves' turn, but
I think we're much more early game-centric than
we were in the first series, at least.
What about the Tide pick? We saw Spirit pick it a little
bit earlier in the tournament, but it's kind of
on and off good. Is it just good because of the Brood?
Yeah, I think it covered both angles.
Netta wanted to play it
one of the offlaners
that I think he's really successful with, just in general.
It has a nice lane against most of their heroes.
Are you worried about their massive
summons between Beastmaster,
Chen, Brood and Voker?
That's 4 out of 5. If they do get
an advantage is the game hard to hold back?
Yeah. I mean every game against Gladiators in this tournament
is kind of going to look the same.
If you get overwhelmed at 20 minutes,
you're just gonna lose.
Otherwise their heroes slow down
and it gets a little bit harder for them to kill.
So we'll see what happens.
All right, good luck in the match.
Thank you.
Cheers.
Gateman Gladiators and Team Liquid, two teams who seem to be tied together through a thread of fate.
Having met every major finals of last year they both failed in the year-end finals to take down team Spirit.
And after a quiet year for both teams,
They have powered up and reached a peak just at the right time
To matchup against each other once again.
But there is one team who is decidedly unhappy with their lot in this bit of destiny, Avery
and that has got to be Liquid having lost every single finals against them I'm going to go with the same thing.
That has got to be liquid
having lost every single
finals against gaming
gladiators, their repeated
nemesis they just cannot seem to surmount Are they going to be able to do it this time around?
I mean,
it's maybe apropos
that you are asking me
that as we have been there
for many of those grand finals
where they have fallen short.
We were there for the first one, the worst one perhaps
when I was a young
There have been a lot of ugly grand finals
between these two teams
and all of them have gone
one way in the end.
Some would say second place consistently and dota is a blessing
i think at this point for liquid it's an absolute curse they are hoping to overcome
at this point second means nothing it's just another notch on a belt of unsuccessful victories so yet
they find themselves here again at the summit of this challenge in dota 2
which is gaming gladiators for them
trying to overcome all of those past demons
there are a lot to overcome here as they will venture forth once more into
a grand finals best-of of five first their nemesis it is certainly going to take
a lot of mental strength to be able to go up against the same team
again and again, and still be confident
and hope that
you are the better team this time around.
Especially after they got drowned
so hard in the upper bracket final.
I mean, that was not... That was hardly a series.
Game of Gladiators just had the freest walk to the grand finals
than I think they've had the entirety of last year.
They have made so many grand finals.
But this one looked the easiest for them.
Yeah that was one of those BO3s you play
there's two games and then you got 3-0'd in it
That was a rough one
Yeah that's a loss that carried over into another series on another day
Liquid did strike back earlier today That's a loss that carried over into another series on another day.
Liquid did strike back earlier today,
found their groove again.
This is a team that wants to play fast,
wants to accelerate that early game and they're up against the other team
that has done it the most successfully in the tournament.
That's going to be a real test again if they
can adapt from that upper
bracket final, learn from it, improve, adjust
the drafts, adjust the laning because
if we go back to that series which you know, we're gonna
maybe hype up the tension
very quickly here. That series
was about the lane change. The first 10
minutes for Liquid. Can you survive
it? Yep. I don't want to start this series with can you survive it yep i don't want to start the series with kenyu who destroyed gaiman in that
because you were nowhere close in those two games in a lot of those games you got outplayed on
the side lanes on a support on support level and then some of them you just got cheplayed on the side lanes on support level. And in some of them
you just got cheesed out in those lanes. I go back
to like the Dazzle pick versus the Ember mid
That lane did not exist for Nisha
I don't care how good Nisha is if you put
him in a position like that, there's nothing he can do about it
so you have to adjust the drafts here
for Liquid to be able to combat what
Gaiman are throwing at you in the laning phase and you have
to up the quality of play so that you don't
give away those free random support kills on the map. You know,
you can't be 0-3 or 0-4 on your two supports here if you're liquid at 10 minutes
and expect to combat that death ball that Blitz was talking about. Yeah, and we heard
the panel talk about it, we heard the coach of Tundra Moonmeater talk about it, and we heard the panel talk about it. We heard the coach of Tundra, Moonneater,
talk about it,
and we heard Blitz himself.
It seemed like everybody is aligned
that Team Liquid did draft themselves
a better focus on the early game,
a better focus on the lanes in, a better focus on the lanes.
In particular, it seems that this safe lane of theirs,
people seem to think that it's going to go well.
I'm not going to say it's going to go well
just because again,
it's getting gladiators
but Monkey King Crystal Maiden, are you happy
with that setup
against what Game of Gladiators have right now?
Before I talk about that, I just want to say we're at a point
in Dota history where your forward position can be
a boots-first morphling and you're not going to get mass reported.
Let's just take a moment to respect
how far we've come in the
Dota universe that that is a thing
that does not get you put in low priority here.
Instead it puts you in a grand final. That's right! Never thought I'd
see the day. Dota truly is a
beautiful game that is always changing
and...
In fact, I think I did do this a couple
years ago, and I got reported for it. Maybe I was just ahead
of the curve. Sure, you can tell yourself
that. But I will say this Boxy Morphling has been
a go-to for them over
the course of this event and I'm excited to see what he
can do with it here because he has some really good spells to steal.
Particularly from that Jakiro, the Beastmaster,
even Invoker can throw out
some of these Quaswex spells early on in the game.
He's my go-to player for Liquid
to build the momentum and keep them in this early game.
You were talking about the Monkey CM lane,
I think Lucky is going to be a point of contention here
between these two teams,
particularly if the Monkey King goes off
to a good start in this game 1 because he is
a hero that can dominate the laning phase.
Very resilient against a lot
of the meta offlaners that are these big
bruisers, they're just melee heroes
sacks of meat you can get the Jingu stacks up on
Great matchup for the Monkey King
and he's a hero that takes that lane advantage
and translates it into early map control
by making some of the fastest rotations
available for any carry.
Really good gate rotations.
You can make it off to Jingu,
so he just snowballs from kill-to-kill-to-kill.
It is a really nice hero to have in this game 1 for Liquid because in theory it gives you a lot of pace,
guarantees a good lane for mid-gate, and that's exactly what you a lot of pace. Guarantees a good lane for Mikkei and that's
exactly what you're looking for out of this carry role.
Yeah, if Durantio's hero
this sort of any way is Chaos Knight
I feel like Mikkei has got to be
Monkey King. So we'll see if he is able to put it to work here,
33 is always limping back
to his tier 1 tower. Duraccio
is just non-stop
when it comes to the pressure on this offlaner
We talked about the importance of being able to win your lanes,
it's very interesting to me that 33
opted for the facet
that is much weaker in the laning
phase. He opts for
Brilleater which is a type hunter start where you are much weaker as an offlaner
and by the time you get to level 10 that your been to even stats have
been from there on out tidehunter is stronger than normal.
But I would have expected much like other Tidehunters of this tournament
for him to have gone for the other facet that builds up your Krakenshell
Maybe he's just that confident in his matchups in this game
In theory Tide is very good
with the Kraken Shell versus the Brood
and some of the other summons that Gaiman are presenting
through the Chen and the Beast. Though I will say
Beast as a summons hero...
I don't know about that one, right? Like yeah you have boars but this hero's
all about the axes, the boar and
the ag buildup so I think that matchup
is not nearly as good for Tide as it used to be
but it's definitely a hero that can slow the game
down and defend your power.
That's what you're going to look to do with it here,
so if that time gets through the early game, then the extra scale from the Krill Eater
could compound here.
Plus, you scale the model size
in that league.
That just feels good, right? Who doesn't love a big boy Plus you scale the model size.
That just feels good, right? That's true! Who doesn't love a big boy?
Well Quinn seems to be doing quite well for himself in the mid lane
Misha really tried to put the screws through him early
He saw a lot of early harassment chased down
in lanes, but ultimately the Klaus
Invoker has been able to regen up
and stay above and beating
him now in CS. So
could be adding
another hero
to the pool
and any counter
to Pango
at this point
is going to
be a godsend
for a best of five
right?
If you're sitting
in the drafting
pool
you're thinking
about okay
what do you got to deal with pango especially after
watching that lower bracket game and pulling ahead on three lanes here doing quite well
and double rule on this bottom lane the assassins out in force today now i would not mention
i would mention these for low reasons of course but i would also mention that this is
some stacking regen reduction with the Necrotic Webs down here.
Yes, it is! Like there was a point where 33
had.9 regen
on this lane getting picked by
the Vool and in the Web.
Just no extra sustain down here for this Tidehunter.
He's getting his mana burned from
the Satyr Creek, getting his regen reduced from
the Brule and the Necrotic Web. This is
not a fun lane for 33
just trying to survive it right now. And of course the 4th position,
Morphling, I mean he's a mid-game payoff hero
not really known for his lane prowess.
Liquid just trying
to get as much out of this as they can
and as Gaiman makes their first rotation, they're going to head mid with the Jakiro
secure the power and take it away from Nisha
who will need a bottle refill off
that Crystal Maiden neutral creep suicide
Insania
he already knew that they were not going to win that rune.
So he preemptively killed himself.
Threw himself
to the neutrals
and TP's mid refilled
Nisha's bottle. Yeah I mean if the safe lane
when it comes to safe
lanes liquid being you know trying
to focus on making sure you don't lose lanes
and some early aggression, the off
lane is the antithesis of that for Liquid.
A krill eater
Tidehunter and a four position Warpflake
They better hope this safe lane
is able to pay out
and it's not right now.
It was going well early.
The rotation comes down from Celery though as the Chen
and they are gonna take this tower very, very early.
They cannot do anything to mirror this pressure. The Broodmother is still
free farming. An uncontested move
off the Chen for Celery, and we saw
this in a lot of those other games her game, that if the Chen gets
off a few of these rotations at
work, suddenly he's level five or six earlier
than you want and the snowball just starts to escalate
incredibly fast. That is a very fast tier one that just went completely
uncontested on a lane that Liquid I think were
hoping to dominate a bit more
here, didn't get any of the early kills
out of it. You didn't get any extra XP for this
Crystal Maiden who invested a lot of resources
on the lane. You're looking at that net worth
for the Maiden right now in Unsenia
That is regen investment to try looking at that net worth for the Maiden right now on Insania. You know, that
is regen investment to try and get a payoff
on the Monkey King. Just didn't happen there.
Now he is going to be a creep on the map.
Gaming can now
look to make this rotation into mid whenever they want.
Burn out some of the Pangolier's mana, maybe backstab
with the Beastmaster Chen army.
So the next move Liquid are going to have to think about
in this game. We would love to have Rolling Thunder
and Ravage up for these tower defenses
those are long cooldowns however so you cannot waste them in a game like this as
gaming are going to up the tempo up the pace
the scan will connect so look they're gonna bring reinforcements
more plays gonna be first one in
and they are gonna go for the kill on Quinn
trying to hit him, shield crash burns out most of
mana, they still have some to go but look at this stun
raining from the Golem stopping Nisha he just can at the stuns raining in from the Golems stopping Nisha.
He just can't opt between the Cold Snap and the Golems get off that Rolling Thunder.
So the team fight spell is missing.
Extra armor here on Quinn.
He's getting Frost Armored plus divine favor this invoker is
not squishy at all and you are now committing in still the rolling thunder
try it again cold snap stopping him time and time again. Quinn keeps on...
...replinking Nisha's attempts to get aggressive,
Nisha's a big-time trouble,
turns around gets off the shield crash, now gets off
the rolling thunder he has the shield for a little bit
it's just a bit stronger, maybe enough to be able
to help get that kill onto Quinn who goes invisible
Oh, Primal Roar bounces over
on Nisha, slowing him down! The axe is cut
him down! Ace gets the first blood and looks
for second as yeah he's to get Insani as well.
That is a well-timed
show up there from Ace.
Absolutely on point there.
That was a nice turnaround from Nisha
using that extra shield but and ace turns up exactly when game and need to
turn the title in this fight and again it points to how tanky this invoker was in the early exchanges
he's getting extra light steel off the new Quas. You're getting armored up
from these back-end supports.
It just takes so long and so much for Liquid
to commit on him there.
Ace is able to come in and collect two,
and that first blood suddenly is Beastmaster very far
ahead of everybody else in this game.
Well, he didn't win the lane so you're not winning
the skirmishes. Nice push back there with
Hurricane from Celery. He has been
quite the nuisance with that neutral creep specifically.
Now it feels like the next step
for Liquid is, when are you
going to be able to use your Ravage? And how
successful? Because 33
is not having fun in this bottom lane.
He is getting sunk far,
but very little compared to what Daraji was able
to get out of it.
And he's matched up against an Invoker, right?
Which is a hero that can be really obnoxious
for a type hunter when it comes to that manner.
This is starting to look like
that upper bracket series.
Just a tad bit falling behind on the lanes
and there's no easy moves to make here. Your supports are too low
damage to bring down Quinn. I think
it's scarier, the fact that
they're doing this, they're taking this pace
while this game had the slowest
first blood.
You know, so it's not like they're doing it through kills
They're just getting that kind of lead
mostly through lane attrition
I mean, Gaemons don't need to get kills
to win these early games
Their idea is about
the longevity of the lane,
how that favors your core matchups
and what your supports can do
on the map
in terms of rotations, right?
What are these room clashes
look like when they go 3v3 mid? What happens when the
sidelaners get left in a vacuum and one-on-one?
Those are the instances where they win
these early games, can't pull net worth advantage
out of thin air. And right now,
Liquid are facing some of those same issues.
The Tide can't stand against the Brood with a single Chikiro rotation.
This Monkey King was unable to stand top against the Beastmaster
and this just opens up all the rotations in the mid.
Playing around a Hero and an invoker that Liquid
don't have a lot of gap pose for.
The problems are mounting here
this is another smoke to defend a tower
that's already gone.
Where do you go from here if your Liquid down 6k, haven't even gotten a kill?
And you know they're gonna feel the pressure right now because
They've been here before.
Yeah.
They were here yesterday.
They know that next step for Gaming Gliators is getting the auras.
So they better find a team fight soon, otherwise those team fights are just going to get harder and harder.
And St1gen managed to hit a good Rolling Thunder set up for the kill on Tofu.
Going to look for more as well.
Celery being
harassed here. Ace is gonna cut over though, might be able to
help out and get a kill onto CrystalMain. Shield crash
does manage to finish off Chen before the Tornado comes
in. Nice Centaur stomp though.
Vessel used onto
the pango, have to drop the ravage
to try and bail Nisha out. It still may not be
enough. He has a shield crash, he has a
swashbuckle. He's gonna
jump, and the axe, not quite getting there but
he is running, running, running.
Duraccio is chasing a rock coming
forward for spiders
and Nisha's just gonna die. There's something
you can do about this anymore tarantula runs halfway across the map to chase down nisha
just man just did a net marathon from bottom jungle area
so that fight threw a ravage and still finds his mark i don't know if that was
a net worth positive kill for the brood but he's certainly wealthy so it doesn't matter here
amicia's game is just shot at this point. There's no item
progression. This is
one of those things where you go team, like
there's a safe lane druid, right?
The way I can see
help up here! Please!
And also
the first
Ravage
used to
try and
save Nisha
didn't even
work out.
So,
the idea
that the
panel had
was this
Tidehunter
was going
to be able to sit in front of these bushes
coming from Game and Gladiators.
It has not protected any towers,
the first Ravage isn't working
now Zerachios tearing the Tidehunter
a new one man.
Crack and Shell doing nothing for you against the high damage of the Broodmother at this point.
This Tidehunter is turning into
a big liability right now.
You cannot stand and defend your towers with the early
Kraken Shell Anchor Smash, then he's
just waiting for Ravage cooldown. And Ravage
is not the spell it used to be. It's
not dealing damage, it's just a minor slowdown
here. A stone on the pathway to victory for
Gaming right now as they build
7k network lead and they're still farming up
Ancient Statues of Ace who, by the way
already finished that Aghs
so Roshan is completely open as well here,
and I don't think there's any world you're contesting
out of your liquid. You have to just look for some pick-offs right now.
We've just
missed a big one as...
I mean, Ace's game is just so fast. He just TP'd to go
do Roshan. Like this game failed
because the man is too wealthy.
I was going to say, I was like, is he going to wait for Direside
Roshan? No. He's got the axe.
He's going to just do it right now,
and I'm looking at this dank team of Crystal Maiden Pango normally.
There's plenty of damage between the two,
but they are so under farmed,
and I question whether or not they'd be able to find a kill they'll steal
a wisdom round with this or something i mean that's really nice for boxy you get some extra
experience here hero needs the levels
rolling thunder does go off just in time the ice pack
just a half a second too late nisha survives but that's all he's doing surviving he is not gaining anything
the game of gladiators is gaining a network lead that is growing and growing and now having ages to work with for the next five minutes.
I will say this has to be one of the more impressive
Rude Mother carry rotation-based games
I've ever seen.
Like, Dorachio has been in all three lanes pre-15
minutes and impacted them. All of
them at certain points. He's just been
everywhere. And his farm is insane right
now. They've been unable to touch him.
And I feel like he's supposed
to be countered a bit, right?
With the pango and monkey king
you have some spells that can
be thrown out to easily clear
through spiders. 33 crawling
back trying to get back to his
tier 2 gets met with three
heroes from Game of Gladiators. More souls
for the vessel here as Quinn will happily collect them.
No lack of charges in this game for Quinn.
You gotta muster a fight soon if you're Liquid here,
just to stabilize the map.
Boop up makes something happen
and Quinn from bottom TP's mid
And immediately goes through the gank on Poxy makes something happen and quinn from bottom tp smith
and immediately goes for the game on foxy fox he's trying to get into the poker and try to ghost walk away but this injury is already there in place a three-man gank does
kill dorachio though that is a much bigger kill than honestly the tide and the morphling combined oh
yeah 100 it is worth a lot of gold here early almost about that though vika just got that
kill and dies immediately to sun strike will add the extra bit of damage
required, no chance at escape
for Mikke.
That is not a super high damage Sunstrike
but the extra 200 is enough to push it over
the edge.
To make sure they get this pick hundred is enough to push it over the edge. Use the rolling thunder
to make sure they get this pick off as
it appears. Now, there's no
ults here from...
He's just like, ah, sorry bro, I can't even save you.
I'm not even gonna try. If I do stick around, decent chance that
I'm going to get killed by a tornado.
Ace is just absolutely out of control
in this game.
Managed to find a really nice pickup on Dorachio
but he's just going to be straight back at it.
You have
to be able to stand alone for some of these heroes
that control the map and Liquid are struggling.
Game
and Smoke continue to just run back
And forth, close out the lanes
Find the ganks
Well, the Tidehunter is level 10
This is where the Krill krill eater starts hanging off of the extra strength
game that you get so from here on out it is a bonus but we're still down 10k.
The push is for Quinn, so he wants to make sure that they'll continue the scale up though we'll see if that mightas actually comes to fruition here,
because this could be a game of gladiators
closing out game 25 minutes sort of deal.
I think Midas on Invoker is a lot about the
levels too. Even if this gold
never pays off, it'll pay off in terms of
better spells in the fight.
And he's not under a lot
of pressure right now
as Liquid just don't have
the gap code to get on top
of Invoker and start on him.
These cores
have just been
swarming back.
Xenia pops
a healing salve
it's a slow hero
though
I imagine
they'll catch
him eventually
he has to reveal his position.
Not a fun game to be a Crystal Maiden anymore.
Nope, and while they're chasing you around, Jiracha's taking the mid-tier too
And they can go high ground to force Uli back.
They are going highground ground this is not a team that
is afraid of hope you can even come in for rats if you miss step here
they still have this ages up on the beast.
That is how fast his last four minutes have been.
Yeah, you normally see like second
Aegis be the timing
to hit high ground and take a lane of Barracks.
Gaming Gladiator is doing one.
They're playing so fast right now.
Liquid have not had
a single break this entire game
they are going to lose this tier 3
at 18 minutes, potentially.
Ace jumps forward, goes for the quick kill onto the crystal maiden.
Bramallor used to have the strength to push forward from the drum-speeding ace.
Nobody can really get close to him for now, but maybe he's overextended himself.
Flink in with the Rolling Thunder and Nisha gets stuck! That's not good!
Roll up goes back to the Beastmaster. 30 seconds left on the Aegis.
They are all committed to kill this Beastmaster.
Can they get him twice though?
A fire and NickNate down to half HP hits the Ravage onto the Beastmasters
see if he can pop them. He gets off a round of axes, way for through it
still ult not quite enough. A boundless strike, way for him through it. Still not quite enough.
A boundless strike.
A little more damage is required but they've ran out!
Liquid have nothing left in the tank.
They will lose two of their cores.
They will lose a lane of barracks
and they will lose the kill on the Beastmaster.
Just too tanky, you have Chen with Divine Favor
You have the mech already up
You have Disruption coming through
The drums add up and
Blitz mentioned you have to get through
this 20 minute death ball timing
Well, this was an 18 minute
death ball timing and Liquid did not
pass the first test here
I mean how many times and Liquid did not pass the first test here.
I mean, how many times...
get stuck in the same 20-minute window here?
Gaming Gladiators is just so good at it, man.
They demolished every team
at this tournament the same
way nobody is able to do
it quite like they do
and they're proving it once again in game one of the grand finals
no reason to stop now you don't have to ravage you don't have the wukong Kong.
Aegis! That's the one downside here for Gaiman,
can't just bait that beast on the frontline as much anymore and
no reason to throw a fight either.
Four buildings they took with that Aegis.
That is a healthy,
healthy fast pace
for David Gladiators.
Just what they're known for.
It's just so much gold
for the team overall,
like these supports
are insanely rich.
This Chen is ahead
of the Tide Hunter.
He is going to maybe
have them...
I mean he's going
to pipe at almost
the same time this T Ty got it up.
Yeah and that's for what it is used for here.
You get caught on some of these big cores you're just gonna lose another lane of racks.
What a dodge.
He's got a... 33's got
Wraith Bands queued up.
He's trying to hit that 25 minute
armor timing.
He did this in one of their other games too
just for the base defense.
I mean, it is efficient
when you're stuck in these situations but
it is not something
you want to have to do here. It is a Hail Mary for sure.
A lot of gold
just to try and give
you some base stats to survive
a little longer.
Tormentors, Roshans, Tier 3s, Barracks, Liquid Space.
It's all free for Game of Gladiators
or at least that is what it feels like
with a score of 13-4 and 18,000 net worth lead.
They are topping out the board in all
the metrics right now.
And Liquid can't really
go out on the map anyway.
If they do
that's where the Invoker comes in weapon. If they do,
that's where the Invoker comes in.
One of the heroes that is best
at being able to hunt around the map
when going for the boots and travels with the extra bit
of mobility but it's not him
who's going to
find the opening.
It's Ace.
Got the Primal Roar
killed for Nisha.
Horacio joins
alongside
to see if there's
any other Liquid
heroes lurking about.
Just too easy
right now.
Absolutely too easy here for gaming.
The BKBs are just finishing up,
the Broods arrives,
the Beast was already done.
You have nothing to get through BK not if not this early into the game
you don't have the physical damage these are as good as ages yeah
you might just go high ground top lane here you can get that wave to liquid space and also
just keep crossing the map i mean every one of these cross-map smokes has worked out for gaming
so far yes they know the monkey they
know where mickey is going to be right
now
they've already pinged it out you know
he's playing on the opposite side of
the map
wants to give him nothing
man doesn't want to just end this game
he wants to make it miserable for Liquid right now.
Blinks forward!
Oh, if he didn't blink forward,
Nikkei was actually through that little area of trees.
It still gets map
control, it gets the
lanes in.
Yeah, it gets
the monkey back,
right?
I mean you finish up
with a BKB for
the monkey.
That is the best
item Liquid are
going to get here
maybe ever in this game if you can't win a fight with it
and they will smoke out look for something look for that clutch pick off it would be
amazing if they find arachio here even just getting the bkb out of him would buy some time
especially with roshan up right now you have to start on him with rolling blink rolling thunder
it's your only initiation tool right now. Yeah, and then you probably have to
Ravage Chain into another Rolling Thunder hit?
It's so awkward
You just don't have the Blink Tidehunter
Makes all these plays
Feel impossible all these plays feel impossible.
I would say missed opportunity,
but there really wasn't one, as you said without the blink.
Going towards Roshan number two here at 23 and a half minutes done so early.
They still have their safe lane tower up,
so it is extremely well protected.
Not something Liquid is
really has a prayer of winning
this fight
at best you could say maybe
if they were somehow in the perfect position
they could steal away the Aegis.
They do want an AoE for their hits.
This might be your best chance to win a fight
in this game as opposed to the high ground.
Quinn sees him coming.
Dorachio is going to stay alone inside the pit,
try and finish up a Roshan
Liquid's gonna be here too late
Mage has already picked up
They're in position
This is not good
Liquid has no way out of this one
so they just have to commit
They are gonna go for Quinn here first, hit him with the Rolling Thunder
not too bad but with the Bunky
gone there goes most of their damage
they've thrown a Ravage and a Rolling Thunder
and everything they had to be able to kill Quinn
they are struggling to get it! The pipe is keeping them alive.
They run out of damage for the second time,
and before the fight is even done,
the fight is done in liquid, they call it,
in day one.
Well, the question of have they figured something
out from those previous two games
I think has been answered here
not much as the story
continues to be the same
just absolute domination Something about this
matchup plagues Liquid consistently
and man
damn it, they look so confident
so personal in this team
This might have been one of the faster, smoother games we've seen from them
all tournament which says something because they've
been playing at quite a rapid pace but
the brute rotations out of D'Arachio
the TP mid from Ace on the Beastmaster
at the exact right point in time. The target prioritization,
everything in this game was just
exactly on point. You get the
Aghs on beast, instant TP to Rose, dodge
the smoke gank, you get an Aegis, you go
high ground with it, you bait out your Aegis carrier. The formation
is correct going high ground. There were
almost no mistakes in this game one from
Gaming Gliders. Very little to take advantage
of and I still go back
and back again to the two core problems in this matchup for Liquid, which are one your cores need to be able to stand on the lane.
They were unable to do that into your supports have to find some early game momentum whether it's dual roaming-laning making their early game weird
something needs to be shaken up here because this
Morphling made absolutely nothing in the
first 15 minutes. The 10th win
for Game of Gladiators against Liquid
in LAN finals. A great start
to a best of five and one
of the biggest tournaments of the year
And, a really rough one for
Liquid as they are now 0-3
in playoffs this tournament against Game of Gladiators.
They're in a hole, no doubt about it.
Strategically speaking they have to have more.
They thought about this matchup a lot, but this was a poor first step for Liquid.
No doubt looks the same as it was in Game 1 of the Upper Bracket Finals and
Game 2 of the Upper Bracket Finals just looking for a bit of difference
and the issue is you don't have much to go on because like
if your liquid what do you learn from this game oh they can beat us
you don't see it over and over again don't learn anything that's the problem
it's just all on you gaming are not going to change
they're not going to suddenly pick different heroes they're not going to
play a different way all you're learning is you're not good to suddenly pick different heroes. They're not gonna play a different way.
All you're learning is, you're not good enough.
Like when it comes to this matchup, right?
This Monkey King Crystal Maiden
we weren't good enough to be able
to win that match up Liquid.
We got to change something panel.
Maybe they have some ideas of what Liquid can do and if you can too.
I hope that Liquid can come up with
some ideas but let's see if Fear has some ideas, because Fear I really thought
this first game was not going to be a repeat of yesterday
but it kind of felt like it was.
Yeah and I think it is going to go a lot
to the First Face bans
they ended up banning The Weaver
The Hoodwink The Snapfire then they took the Deku to the first phase bans. They ended up banning The Weaver,
The Hoodwinked,
The Snapfire
and then they took
The Dekiro
And I was a little hesitant
I thought this CM
Monkey King lane
would be really good
versus Beast
But it turns out
those four position
Forks right now
are what's going
to carry
the laning stage. And if Liquid
have a bad laning stage against Gaming
Gladiators, it's tough. And we saw that from
Morphling as well playing position four versus Chen
with a Tide. It did not go well.
The counterpick to Invoker on the mid lane as well against a Pango,
all three lanes went really poorly and moral of the story here
that cannot happen first game in Gladiators.
Was there draft issue or do you feel like some lanes should have gone better
but gaming just outplayed
Liquid? I think it's a draft issue
because I think you have absolutely no chance as a Tide
morph against a Chin and
the Brood. You have Necrotic Webs reducing
and then we saw the Vool assassins,
it's also reduced your region.
So this Tide every time he got hit
he couldn't region at all and he just couldn't lane
and that's a big problem
because that tide was supposed to be their frontliner.
All right, that seems like an easy fix Banbrood
cause it seems like those webs kind of wrecked all the lanes.
I don't know if just the brood. I think more so the supports, the Ch'in and the Jakiro seem like big problems.
We had yesterday a similar situation situation i remember sitting on this exact
stairs talking about maybe it's time to ban chen and enchantress in the second game of that series
and they ended up doing that but it still didn't work out.
It's just too many bans at this point, you're gonna have to
start stealing heroes because unfortunately
it wasn't enough what they did
You really have to have a better read on
how the lanes are going against Gaming against gaming gladiators and liquid
just wasn't able to get the landing stage down and they really just have to focus on that and
it's gonna come down to mainly the picks advance a lot of emphasis on the drafts here we're of
course gonna see the draft of game number two very soon but first we're gonna check in
with kazu and purge
hello yes we're here in the crowd a lot of people here and I have
a question to some of my neighbors
here. Who is your favorite player
in Dota 2? FYI
Maybe. Okay so We have two big Chinese fans here but they are very legendary players
So I think they're very good answers
Those are actually my two favorite Chinese players too.
Do you want my overall favorite player?
Yes.
It's you, Kezu.
That is the false answer.
The correct answer would have been AmeiBurj.
Back to you.
Now please ask the person next to you.
Are you comfortable?
What is your favorite player?
Maybe liquid dismissal OK,
OK good answer that's fair sir.
What did you think about the game? Oh Nisha, Okay, okay. That's a good answer. That's fair, that's fair.
What did you think about the game?
Woo!
Nice shot!
Sorry, I had to bounce in.
So I think about the game
it's just a bit of...
It's a big problem for Liquid.
We heard also Fear talk
about that there's maybe
not enough bans going around,
because their laning stage they don't really get to even play any Dota.
So they need to change up something and do it better
cause in the next game if you don't get out of lanes what are you supposed to do?
What did you think about 3-3's facet choice?
Did you see he went the growth one.
I mean,
He probably thought that the lane would go better
To then get a bigger like anchor smash later in the game
But with how the lanes are going
maybe it's not correct i don't know if you're gonna lose in 20 minutes be strong early seems
kind of valuable anyways uh we will be right back after this.
Thanks for checking in, Kezu.
Thank you, Parge.
Before I went pro,
I was actually inspired by Dendi
back at TI1 and it was that moment
with the prestige of a tournament with that big organization back at TI1 and it was that moment,
that prestige of a tournament with that big of a prize pool what dragged me into Dota.
A player that inspired me? It was Puppey
I remember how he watched his replays
his games...I wanted to be like him.
A player who inspired me to start Dota was Sumail.
He just dived under tier 3 on the Storm and he was owning like a boss.
Before I became Dota2's professional player, my favorite player is Miracle.
He has always been an idol for me. My biggest fear is Miracle. He's my idol all the time.
The most profound moment for me
was when he
took down Waterman several times.
Before I went pro in Dota 2
I think to me at that time it was probably
Saks and Save
were the strongest players
at least mechanically.
I actually decided to be pro before I even started playing the game.
It worked! A mischief! What a play!
I definitely looked up to some players.
I think it was mostly Kuroky and Puppy.
I always just really liked watching Puppy and the heroes he played.
I guess I kind of copied his heroes a little bit, so I always looked up to them a lot.
They get the block! They get the block!
He's got a surge but it might be too late. It will be.
Dendi is really good and Poppy has great leadership.. Oh, this could be a total disaster! Vacuum in! Ravage on everyone!
The black hole as well.
Light of Madness turns it around.
Ravage as well.
Stolen by Deku.
Are you kidding me?
I mean obviously yeah
I was inspired by Xiao8
and he's playing these like team fight tempo controller
and he was playing Enigma
Now that I'm speaking about it
I'm realizing that it might even have influenced me more than I realized.
I was very inspired by people like Zed.
I was a huge fan of early OG.
They had more personality, I would say.
It was easy to cheer for them.
Our inspiration for me was like Topson and Dale.
I really liked how Topson played on some heroes, like Walker
You can find a lot of things in his place there. Coming down Tulsa with the saves! Gets through for them!
Just trust their instincts and follow your heart.
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Oh my God... so so We'll be right back. so so so so so The so so. uh so so so so ¶¶ so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so Game 1 was a little bit one-sided in favor of Gaming Gladiators. And we know that they can do that,
We know that they can do that. We know
that they can play that style. We saw them literally yesterday in this
same matchup crushing Team Liquid 2-0
very clean, very fast, very smooth
We thought Team Liquid learned something from that series and would have adapted. They did adapt, they did change things up but the result was still the same.
They need bigger changes to see what needs to happen for liquid to have a shot in this
grand finals against these monsters of players from gaming gladiators i was combing through
like yesterday's series kind of of confirming what were the bans
they chose. In game two
yesterday, they didn't even ban The Brood
so maybe they thought, okay, GG's
not going to whip it out this far into the tournament
but I'm just thinking there's all these poisons that you
have to pick from and I feel like they thought they found struck gold on the side of Team Liquid
that they got their Monkey King first round very few teams before Falcons today were giving them this hero,
but they preemptively countered it with Jokero.
You think you have a really strong safe lane?
The Monkey King CM, I can't think of a scarier safe lane.
And it loses too. And then Necrotic webs won both bottom lane and midlane
like there's a lot of pieces in this puzzle that are missing for liquid
because i kind of liked what they were doing like i would have absolutely like if
the last game wasn't out drafts if we
just take away the gameplay the same thing would have happened to me i liked what liquid had going
for them i will now say going into the next draft if you ban three plus fours but then
the fourth one kind of destroys you in lane anyway.
Then what's the matter with the first pass?
You might as well just leave all of them open. At least
it would have been one takeaway for me
going into this game. Take out two,
then take one of yourselves because overall, yeah. Again
same story as in the upper bracket final
it's the laning stage. They don't
have one. Yeah I mean
I'm having deja vu
prime gaming gladiators right now where you know what's coming but you just don't have the
answers yeah and it's very scary because they're going to try a different combination of bands
this time hoping their result will be different
this time. And hopefully for Game Ganaders it is!
I had an idea going into what they should have done and
they kind-of did that but then they got stopped in a
different area which i think is the support diff
i think the morphing cost for it had its fun and added time in the sun
but against gaming gliders that's not going to fly so you're gonna have to
pick something stronger i do like in this particular game the snap
the hoodwink the jacaroero, the Weaver. They're all
gone so those are all the A-listers for
position 4 right now that win the lanes
and that was kind of the issue that we had with 33
last game is he didn't get a gain because
his boss 4 was a Morphling and he's laning versus a Chen
and Brood.
He just couldn't play the game.
Yeah, compared to previous games we had the Brewmaster making it through
It will be Team Liquid first pick
Other than that, the Templar Assassin
We saw banned first phase by Gaiman Gladiator last
game is still in the pool but the rest is all the same other than the J'Kyro now being
a first-phase ban.
He got added to the list there by Gaiman and And it is Enchantress that got banned
and then the Brew picked up,
it does mean that the Chen
that we saw previous game from Celery
is still in the pool?
I think there's a reason why
historically
the teams that are winning all year
Are not the ones that get first place at events like Riyadh and TI
Last year Team Spirit cleaned up these two big tournaments
And last year, Gaiman and Liquid
were the two that were in the finals of all these tournaments.
And what I'm trying to say is you guys
mentioned that Gaiman Gladiators
you know what's coming. You know what to expect
but all of last year you had the target on your back.
You were the team that was defining the meta and everyone
was having to learn how to play against you for months
And I feel like what we're missing here is that GameGladiators understands
their strategy at its core
because it's what they do across any patch if it's possible.
And these teams have only had three weeks or so of scrims,
maybe even two weeks of this tournament to figure out how to deal with it.
And it's just so scary to think that they can do it with so many different heroes in so many different ways
So many combinations you can't ban them all out. It's like how do you avoid the train when you're, you know
Tied to the tracks I mean I will say two things like first of all
It's obviously
liquid are on the back foot right like when you look at this draft they're kind
of forced to first pick brew because it's their only way to ban these three
heroes and not also give them brewmaster at the same time but secondary not just to look at only the draft last
game i think monkey cm versus jacquiero beast i'm pretty sure you can debate which lane should win
and how hard should they win liquid didn't have a laning stage in their safe lane after four minutes,
and that's not just losing,
that's getting destroyed like Monkey King
didn't touch the lane anymore nor did CM
so it's not just the heroes that need to change
I hope they had like a small talk about maybe we need some different itemization,
some different movement, contested Lotus, whatever it is.
Because it's not only the draft.
You are being outplayed left, right and center as well.
Yeah, you probably can't make those adjustments mid-series very easy.
So I do like the fact that they just got rid of the Jakiro this time around and the Hoodwink,
the Snap.
So they're going to have to find a new hero for their position four that can do that bullying.
What I'm a little worried
about, though, is I feel
like you had a couple
angles to take this and
either you ban out
Duraccio and you ban the
brood or you ban the CK
when you bet on one of
them, he's just going to
pick the other.
And I feel like it
doesn't really phase
their draft at all
in any type of direction so they banned the beast there
and now you still have the chin to deal with
and you know some brood is gonna come as well
it's like gaming class anyone can see this it's chin brute it was coming from 10
miles away and i don't know what your plan is against us supports i think pick better supports
this game cm's banned what what could we possibly do Maybe a Nyx is a hero that's decent versus Chen.
I think you need to contest this Chen because yeah, that Chen destroyed his lane and what did
he do after as we mentioned? He went through the gate and then he destroyed top lane as well.
So at least deal with one of your lanes right now.
Yeah, the problem with Nyx is even if it deals with the creep,
I don't think you're ever pressuring the Broodmother if it is the carry.
And despite what happens in the first four or five minutes,
the Broodmother should have a perfectly good farm at five minutes
and should be able to be independent and left alone.
And so what we saw yesterday was Mikke's Razor
in the safe lane getting camped four minutes in
and that's
the story of these two teams playing against each other.
Duracho has all the space in the world
and the supports on game and are allowed to move freely
so I like techies a lot more than Knicks
because you're not going to leave that lane as
a five like you can't brewmaster plus techie so much slow
so much skull damage so much chase potential
that there will need to be multiple heroes from gaming in order to occupy
that lane
and that's the part that i at least am happy to see
team liquid addressing but it has an abysmal win rate as well one is seven
that's also just saying it's not really a strong hero right now yeah i mean today i think the one
positive side of it is the fact that yeah it's probably like a c-list type of hero but all the
best force are banned so he probably was playing against one of those
four that are banned right now and losing every game,
But if they're out of the pool
he suddenly becomes a bit stronger because
he is one of the stronger laners in Dota
Just not as strong as Chikiro, the Weaver, the Sapphire
or the Hoodwink. I'm not sure if there's something
stronger you could pick so their idea
is still there they want to try and give 33
a game cause last game he didn't get played over
Well at least we see that the uh the mood is definitely there
for team liquid high spirits which is also incredibly important in a series like this they
got an alchemist coming out for gaming Flex still open, but that's another contender
for carry.
Well I do think this has to be the carry at least
for now Chen and Alch together.
We all know what gaming will do with their drafts
so there'll be good lanes into tempo.
So far this is a great Alchemist game
The damage you have on Liquid? It's very slow
I never see this Alchemists gonna like
To be bursted before his ult he's gonna heal through
Like all the Radiance or whatever stuff
They're gonna throw at them as well. So, very strong so far.
It does mean that your Brood is offlane maybe there's something
with the laning stage against the ET
but yeah just one of their kind of S tier
type of carries.
It was kinda an interesting pick on second pick
cause they could've technically flexed this Brood all the way to the end, right?
But I wonder if they're just going to pick another core here.
That would make more sense to me.
Just like slap a Pango down or something and just be like...
Or whatever, pick their mid and be like
we don't really care about taking second pick advantage here
we're just gonna pick our heroes we're going to pick them early and we know
what we want to do and you just want to make sure we have the heroes we want for
this game i mean if you're liquid do you wanna run back the pango or do you
just take a completely different approach because like maybe if you're running cause right now okay
top lane could be a similar scenario i I feel like Brutex could lose this
lane quite hard. Suddenly you have no lanes to
rotate to. Would you rather have a hero
that is going to try to rotate around or just
like, I'm going to destroy this and Volkram it
and I'm going to stay here and you guys play around me.
Well, I want a TA mid because I want a hero that can lane versus invoker
and also doesn't get owned by this necrotic web stuff in the midlane.
And I feel like TA can of not really rely on region
and also just lane versus invoker and it's still in the pool for some reason
yeah but that makes me think that it's a trap it's a truck
it's a draft he has plenty of those.
Because Gaiman banned TA in the first game just now, so it is very much on their radar. I mean we are going to get Monkey King out of Liquid.
I am wondering if there is any flex potential?
It is very unusual for Gaiman to save Tofu's
pick till last.
That's not going mid
almost 100 rooms, sure. So that's
gonna be a safe lane Monkey King
they're picking their mid last
and can Tofu play Alchemist?
That is the question
of the day.
I'm sure he can.
I'm pretty sure he can.
Brian?
I would hide
in Tofu tonight.
I was going to say
if they do play him
on Alchemist
I think Midgate
will have pretty
solid free farm
because of the fact
that not only is
Monkey King good
against two Melees
but you also have
ET with the briefcase
bringing the business
But what I like about
this Monkey King pick
this game as opposed
to last game
since it's picked later in the draft,
I think it's based on the matchups much more
set up to actually rotate through the
Twin Gate and punish
the potential Alchemist safe lane.
Something about this draft to me for Team Liquid at least
boasts they'll have some playmaking potential
in the early-to-mid game and
they might be able to get active before these
Broodmothers connect with
the auras of the Chen.
You know? I do like the auras of the chin. So, you know, I do like the Monkey King
a lot more this game
and the concern is
like if his alchemist
does get flexed or
if broodmother
necrotic webs is
really that broken, you know?
I mean, I'm thinking it's because they're banning out Dazzle.
Which... Yeah.
...I don't know how much flexibility there is going.
I thought this was just gonna be like some plus four for Tofu
that will help your brood in the lane and
like maybe offsets a matchups.
Like, I don't know how much Phoenix they have played.
I don't think they're necessarily a Phoenix team but something
that helps your brood get through the lane against two dudes
that kind of want to right click.
Maybe some dark Willow, some counter team
side.
I don't know if
you guys see
anything else.
Maybe they're
thinking that
there's a position
for potential
Dazzle as well
and here it is
still strong in
lane against
matchups
if we can just
right click them
down.
Probably against Zelda or Titan might be annoying because you just want to get in against certain matchups if you can just right click them down yeah probably again
selder titan might be annoying because you just want to get in there right quick if we stack up
too much but yeah i think we've gone to a position now where both these teams have realized by far
the best supports in the game right now for winning lanes and
Now we're just really digging down the list here to see what is left here
And I honestly can't I don't know what's left for gaming gliders or something. That's like super strong here or something
Yeah like super strong here. Or something? I don't know. Yeah, your guess is as good
as mine!
Oh no...
That sounds pretty grim.
I'm sure that this
is a puzzle that Liquid
will attempt to deal with
the best they can.
The Templar Assassin is still in the pool, but again
because it's also not banned
it just shouts trap.
And I'm sure that's how Liquid feel.
It could also be overconfidence.
I will say that even if they're the best, they can sometimes make an oversight.
They are playing so good
that they probably don't really care all that much.
If they play a good hero
they would still know how to counter it.
So I feel like their bans are pretty on point.
Oh, they have Sand King still in the pool. I was thinking Keeper of Light or some heavy
Spell Damage Nuker to defend towers? Sand King does that with his body as
I think they were planning to do last game with the Tidehunter.
Sadly, he started the game really
miniature because of his facets.
It was not big enough to do that in the midgame. Maybe
SanKing from the mid lane will be able to hit that timing a bit better
because he gets more solo priority,
probably getting stacks.
ET Techies, very good for stacking.
You can use the Spirit, you can use the Bombs.
I like this a lot more.
I think it deals with
the Broodmother potential pressure.
I think it's going to be absolutely crucial that
Chen is gonna come through the Twin Gate,
Sankey needs to be there to save the tower
we saw go down super early for Micke in Game 1.
This plus four has to just be one of the 4 or 5 we threw out at this point. There aren't that many left if it is going to be the plus four which I feel like it is.
If you're not gonna try and win your lane what about a Spirit Breaker or something like that and just play the map?
Because I don't know what's going to guarantee when you elain with what's left.
I just don't see it.
Could be standard Rubick.
Damage controlling would be fine, but I guess got standard Rubick. Yeah, I feel like damage controlling would be fine but just some... Rubick for stanking makes sense?
Yeah.
And also kinda liked the worth and whatever else I mentioned before which I have brain
damage so I forgot about it.
I like the Spirit Breaker and we all have a different idea
and i'm sure that's the best support in the game right there no we're gonna have a shot of feet
then we will see uh the invoker be played as a position it was right in front of us the whole time
should have known should have no one the options that we mentioned i believe i did i thought
i feel like this is how Team Liquid beat Falcons earlier,
was the surprise flex of the SF first pick into a carry
which allowed them to win mid.
Now we're seeing the surprise mid-pick again
in Voker then flexed to support
allowing you get that favorable matchup.
I mean this was an obvious Invoker
support pick. He's playing versus ET so he
is gonna use a tornado and move to Astral
Can't believe any of us got hired for
this event. That's true, we're pretty bad.
Nice last event working with you guys?
No, I mean, I think it's interesting
and it might work but I think more than anything
they just want to survive that bot lane, get through
these levels, just dispel the ET I don't think they're going to crush
that lane until maybe when Brood gets higher
level right? Mid lane should be a definite
stomp. I think Shadow Fiend versus SK
is not a matchup in which you can
even get creepss as we saw earlier
tournament, I think Topson was playing it
mid lane versus, I believe
it was Anub or something. Either way, it doesn't really matter
but that matchup is very difficult and has been proven
before. In the safe lane we'll have to see about that one.
Brewmaster should be fine versus Alchemist
so that is a lane that can hold tempo for them.
I'm favoring Gaming's draft
which I guess kind of goes without saying
but Liquid have way better shot at fighting back. I'm looking at their supports. Maybe
you can play through Nisha mid, right? Like you
barrel strike Quinn when he plays over-aggressive
bring Boxy into the mid lane.
If Miky has a good game, he can rotate around
so this time around, I just want to see them have better lanes
go together combine your heroes and fight into game in
Nick is the pace setter for Liquid here
I think he's going to get active really early
Either the twin gate
He might even be going mid to be like a four man game because he offers the stun that supports lack
That's what I'm keeping an eye on
Mid lane because Quinn set up for the snowball
and we've seen SF
punish these melee heroes pretty hard throughout this event.
That was a very sad sign!
I'm like, okay, Broodmother solo lane, that's hard to deal with.
SF has now got the favorable 1v1. Duracho is a tempo hero.
We have seen this script written out,
and if this is the sequel will it play out
the same as the original?
Well let's find out what's going to happen
in game number 2 of this grand finals between Liquid and Gaming Gladiators. First,
some words from Coach CY.
Hey, Merit, it's CY. What do you think
about the drafts that you ended up with?
I like it. I'm a
so I'm happy we finally got to pick it.
That's it?
There are a lot of other interesting heroes
you're up against at Techies,
are you worried about that hero not in the meta anymore?
I am not worried about Techies at all.
Maybe he is cooking something on edge
but I haven't know.
Haven't seen much of the zero to be honest. I feel they have better ways to kill spiders
at least this game that could slow down Draco's laning stage
Maybe... Maybe but the thing is
You can kill spiders but he kinda also jungles and it's not always easy to reach them anyways.
All right well good luck in the match.
Thank you so much.
Well it was indeed a trap.
The Invoker is not going to be going mid.
They are playing a support Invoker
and they swerve to the Shadow Feed
to keep the Nisha Sanking down. That
was a deadly twist in
the draft, dude.
Deadly for somebody?
That is the question. For who here?
I mean if history says anything it's probably for liquid but
i actually would have preferred the invoker mid
okay if i don't know what that says maybe i'm horribly wrong on that
why i don't know i was feeling the corn poker in this game i think you I'm horribly wrong on that. Why?
I don't know,
I was feeling the core in Volker in this game.
I think he actually has
some decent core matchups
like the EMP burn
on the Brewmaster
is pretty nasty.
The dispels for the ET
and the Monkey
are both very good
and Volker kind of just owns
Monkey King a lot of the game.
It's a really rough core matchup.
EMB, even we saw,
I think Quinn play this
Invoker into Tiny Mid
a lot in this tournament
and I think similar reasons work against the Sand King
in terms of if you just keep Tornado EMP-ing this hero,
you can't make rotations,
you can't countergank fights.
It's kind of awkward and you're a vessel buyer.
So you remove the healing aspect
of a Sand King rushing Bloodstone
as well as some of the monkey effects.
I thought it was a great core in poker games.
Hold up, hold on. I heard a lot of things
but lanes
who wins harder against Sand King? Well, Shadow King shadow okay well then i rest my case your honor
i mean there is anything else matter in this series avery
i mean to me it goes back to like that dazzle ember pick it's a cheese lane pick
that quinn basically saying I'm going to demolish
niches real hard. This guy doesn't get to play the game.
That has happened a lot so
there's some faith to be had there.
And if this Yankee doesn't get to play the game
then you don't have anybody to stop this push
that's going to be coming from Game of Gladiators.
A push from Liquid comes through
to get first blood on Seller.
Sneaky move. Hiding
back behind the trees. They get the first blood for their carry.
Very happy about that if you're liquid
and they do
lose three runes. A little sad
about that if you're liquid, especially
when there's an Alchemist on board.
Now this lane...
Last time around we had the situation
where we were talking about how
the offlane of Liquid was pretty passive.
Now in their draft,
they opted for a killing duo.
I was not thrilled to see Techies
because frankly,
I think this hero got nerfed too much
that I don't think it's as strong later.
Holy cow, Insign senior just beat down topi
but they are already using that blast off with the facet to good extent here dorachiocio is going to suicide kill.
Nicely done,
holding on
to the unstable concoction
and they get the kill
in Boxy
in return.
That was very close
and a big deny
to get still liquid
coming out
swinging
in this game too
and that is a good sign to see
this team needs some confidence
boost going into this game.
Need to just go out there
and play for the win,
not trying to avoid the loss.
So it's good to see them
striking back here early, gain some confidence
early on in this game and get to actually
play the game because they did not get to do much of that
in Game 1. Going back for some
similar things here with the Monkey King
but a support duo that should be stronger in the early game.
I think that's the upside of the Techies here.
Another blast off. Again,
this Facet allowing extra damage
combined with a Brewmaster who is
already one of the stronger laners
when it comes to kills thanks to this
combination of burn and clap.
Liquid supports. This was
one of my big factors. You've got to get stuff done in the early
game if you're liquid supports.
I feel like they've already gotten more done here
than maybe some of these previous games combined.
Yeah, absolutely.
And Insania is making really good work at this timing
where there is no level two on Tofu.
Therefore, there's no tornado. Therefore, there's no tornado.
Therefore, there's no dispel to his spirit and extra damage.
So he just keeps on taking it to gaming gladiators in this window
where he has the advantage before Tofu comes in with the counter.
And Nisha's doing fine, man.
Not as low as I would have thought. Still has a bottle
charge. Picks up a water rune.
He's cruising here. Going even on the CS board
early. Good sign for him. If it gets hard later, he can always
go back to the stacks and if you're
Liquid, if you're winning in two side lanes, you almost don't care what
happens because he's a Sanky or whatever.
He's gonna be a playmaker.
Drogio getting, trying to strike back
He is going to get this kill looks like
as he... oh it's not quite fast
enough. Didn't get the courier either
Boxy continuing
outplays and double brace already up for 33 means
his rotation potential is there, you can leave this Brew alone to a decent degree
Maybe look for the turnaround kill mid on the Shadow Beam
Gang bottom
Really want this Techies
to accelerate this game.
That could be the strength of this pick here for Liquid.
Even if the Hero's maybe not the strongest in the meta.
Misha!
Burrow Strike away! Quinn's gonna chase after him though.
So slow.
The build up movement speed slow is so obnoxious.
Meanwhile the aggression from 33 and Boxy pays out yet another kill, this time
selling it. They are just
demolishing this Chen Alcling
Not a lane that Gaiman I think are used
to losing. At least these out combinations
usually go well for them. Especially with all the extra gold
that Rocio had, he started this game with
so much extra gold from the bounty runes
plus seed money
not able to translate it into a lane
win here and Ace in trouble.
Oh, the tornado just in time!
Well played by Tofu, well positioned to hit both heroes.
Otherwise, Ace surely would have died there.
Such a big kill for Insania.
Wentz's boots investment has been dominating the lane. That would've been such a big kill for Insania. Wentz's boots investment has been dominating the lane,
that would have been the big payoff experience-wise.
But good news is you burn out that mana from Tofu,
now you can just go back in swinging.
Yeah, it doesn't really make that much of a difference
if Ace lives but he's on no HP therefore
He can't challenge ADCS whatsoever and Insania almost gets killed until once again the tornado
Incepts but you're left in the same situation.
Yeah they are struggling out here.
Both sidelines for Demon.
Bomb lands, Celery soon to blow up.
They're going to try and get the counterkill
on Boxy with the acid spray unstable concoction that
is enough i almost wish he hadn't earned on this brewmaster oh nisha another raise long
range and the raindrop is not enough the build up a vantage this matchup was just too rough
yeah turned up that heat early portions of that lane we're going okay it just escalated
very quick and now quinn has a two level advantage on this San
King mid party. Level six tofu tornado after
Tornado right before the final hit can come in
an aces decent damage onkey on the way back but of course insania
it makes it much worse for ace to keep trading
tornadoes have been clutched but they're just damage control down here.
Still a much better laning phase overall for Liquid.
All three of their cores finding something and the supports being a lot more active.
In fact, Boxy smoked mid
looking for a low shadow fiend
or maybe just blocking some camps
could get the connection
with the sandwich here.
He might be able to
sandwich in here.
Quinn will be... Oh no! What's happening? Oh, they might be able to sandwich him here. Quinn!
Oh no! What's happening?
They had an opportunity. Burrow Strike, Sandstorm blast off. Surely all of that combined
would be close.
They just missed him?
Unfortunate. Unfortunate.
To be honest, I don't know if Quinn actually dies.
He has Fairy Fire, Raindrop Wand
and he already has Requiem.
Yeah, it definitely would have been a close call of maybe he gets off the Requiem.
They're gonna try again.
The both? Okay they bring in Sita.
They're like we need more!
We need four heroes to make sure that Quinn dies here and he still gets off the Requiem!
The Requiem.
The Requiem goes out it's not enough to kill
Misha.
Sub 100 HP on multiple
heroes but Liquid walk
it off they get that big sf kill and they're securing the uh six
minute pile rune as well so if it's something really good like a regen nisha would be able
to just stay in lane.
And, I mean, there are clearly some adjustments,
like what I've made going into this game, which is good to see.
The fact that 33 rotated here early, kind of picking up on that Game 1,
hey, these guys are gonna bring numbers to play as we just have to overcompensate
and make sure the ones that were committing to work
especially these big core oriented ganks
I like that. Just bring the brewmaster
It's not going to cost 33 too much here. You can just run
back to top. It's not like you're solo pressuring the Alc anyway.
Make sure some of these plays work so
you can build some steam here on
your supports. That was sort of the
MO at one point in time when Game of Gladiators
was the most dominant team of the 2023 regular season they kept on
bringing both supports into mid lane all the time to help out quinn and at some point in
time it developed where i was like okay both teams teams bring both supports. And then all of a sudden
maybe a core is joining in and then we
got to some craziness where there are five people
mid at seven, eight minutes.
It is the Quinn effect.
You have a player
that's going to try
and dominate mid
and perhaps do it
with some of these cheese picks
that automatically
creates a power imbalance.
Whenever you have
a power imbalance
on the map in Dota 2,
it kind of sucks
everybody towards it. One team
is looking to exploit it, the other is looking to defend against
it. So a lot of time for gaming
and it is around this mid lane
which is why they like these independent side lanes
Heroes like Alch and Brood, who when you get left alone
and you ignore them for two minutes, suddenly
they're level six. Suddenly they're just flash farming jungle
become big problems here.
So if you're Liquid, you really have
to make sure those mid ganks work because it's like that game one
you get sucked into these skirmishes that are unfavorable against the range mid hero who's
just outpacing you and you're in trouble miss the stomp, miss the blastoff!
This is a good opportunity to learn.
Not Liquid's finest hour...
But they did learn!
They got that going for them. what do you think they learned here
they're learning a lot i think they've been learning a lot recently against
nick gay meanwhile gonna receive a similar gank here but this time it's paired up
with two cores as Quinn made his way across the map not that he was needed for the kill
but he is hopeful when it comes to tower pressure because liquid's already taken the top tower
so gaming gladiators want to be able to mirror that
let's open up the tower for ace ice armorery. Going to buff everybody up here
and good news for Liquid
is at least you're able
to trade out that top power
on the Brew33.
Having a pretty good game
here on one of his better
heroes in the Brewmaster.
That's why they first picked it.
I think Liquid felt like a lot of these all planers were getting banned out towards the end
of the draft and just wanted to secure one they felt very confident with early.
Can't blame them there.
Quinn gets a regen rune, big pick up.
You have some levels between this Sand King and Brewmaster if you can combine those two big pickup.
You have some levels between the Sand King and Brewmaster if you can combine them here.
You'd particularly
love to bring down this Shadow Fiend one or two
more times in his early game. He's very
susceptible to the numbers right now.
I don't think Gaiman would actually mind
farming up a bit here. All three of their
cores love the flash from the jungle
right now, and Cel celery is taking over more real estate in your jungle
so it's not just the cores they're going to be farming but also
celery himself he's gonna try and take some camps
away from you nice use of the hurricane make sure his hero is outside of burrow strike range
nisha's still looking for something with his phase boots
but does not have the superior movement speed against an Invoker or Broodmother.
Okay, I'll move for Liquid.
Buying time for Gaiman's cores as Dorachou gets top lane in.
Quinn finishes up some Ancients.
These heroes are finding their levels.
Now downside for gaming right
now is you're missing a lot of levels on this support invoker
tofu kind of just doesn't exist right now another reason i feel if you're
liquid you really want to ramp up the pressure or
fight around this tier one mid, get something going.
You just have such a good spell advantage right now and these cores on Gaiman don't wanna
have to go to fights. It's gonna be hard kill but he doesn't have chemical rage
And it's possible if they hit the Blast off at the right time,
the Brewmaster is here, Tornado comes in
But they've already got the burn damage on
Clatts gonna be used and they're gonna use the Primal Split just to make sure
that Dorachio is dead
and maybe look for a little bit more meanwhile misha holding
their jungle with the sandstorm as celery continues to be an obnoxious presence around this area
he's fighting some decent farm on his
Chen, almost level 6 as well.
So I haven't seen a Brewmaster ult or
epicenter be put to use
around this mid tower which I think is the biggest place you'd want to get them done.
Back kill you'll definitely take for the Brule.
Now you're gonna have to wait a little bit if you wanna make this...
Last time the Rune was bottom and they are both going to bank on it being bottom.
It's top in damage that'll be secured for Nisha looks like.
Nice little rune pickup for him.
I mean better to take away from the Shadow Beam here for sure.
Game slows down a little bit i mean look with stabilize so big question coming into this
game you do not want to go down o2 in this series especially two games where
you just get decimated by 20 minutes it's very important to stabilize this early game
and the supports have done their job here so let's go back for some stacks try and get
this blink on the sand king give give them initiation power. I like that
Boxy joining in on this
because he needs to experience
to be able to get his level 6 but it does
leave nobody up here with 33
who gets ganked by the topo-quin duo.
Collect his soul, plus one on the board.
And he's gonna go straight for Yasha Kaya.
What do you make of these different SF builds?
We've seen some that just slide out and just do not go.
Yashakaya, do you think it's necessary to always have that item?
Ace...
Boxy didn't have the right position for the blast off.
Now that he is out here though
they can still probably catch up to over-the-bound
their strike really helping things out meets the furrow strike they've got him oh what
how did that happen one troll versus four heroes and somehow he nabs the last hit.
That's not for the likes of you.
That is unbelievably bad luck!
Small Hill Troll attack for nine physical.
Was it actually the small one?
I think so, no it was the big one.
But it needed the small one as well.
Well, I mean
sometimes you're just cursed man.
I don't know what to tell you.
Yeah, we have a line of
destiny and fate
and game gladiators
and liquid
liquid would call this a curse.
That felt very cursed right there.
Absolutely, as that was
a big kill to Snag
and it gets denied from you.
Just feels bad here.
Good news is Ace's game is way slower than last time so you're still doing your job at shutting down this brood which i mean that food went absolutely rampant in that
game one of course it was from a different position but
you know, Gaiman are going to try and do similar things with it.
That was a swing around move to try and kind of
backstab this jungle area that was unsuccessful
slows down Ace's game, slows
down those auras, gives you more time to operate here really quick get that team
fight together doradcio staying ahead of the gang from liquid still working towards his radance. His two carries
are farmed for Gaiman, that they have
for sure but they're still susceptible
you can find connections with this Sand King blink
it is online for Nisha he has
Shield Ruin as well so be a really good time to smoke it up on the
side of liquid blink in the blink burrow strike pretty much sets up your stomp earth splitter
it sets up your techie spells it's a guaranteed kill killing almost anybody.
Going for it!
Oh, Hurricane pushed them farther away outside of all of it.
No Burrow Strike, no epicenter damage.
Celery just baited out a play.
Liquid didn't have the smoke ready to go.
Boxy bought one up.
They obviously wanted to make a move with this
but Celery threw pressure on the mid lane
got Liquid to make a
mistake. Celery honestly has
been owning this game with this Hurricane
just playing up in Liquid's face, scouting
areas, forcing responses
always getting out which is a tough
line to walk with this chen when you're fairly slow and you have some greedy
cores you need time to farm you're not pushing liquid down here
you're trying to scale a bit more
they have a different play style from
gaming
despite it having a similar feel in the
draft radiance will be done here for
garaccio so at a very decent timing
i don't think you really want to just run in the fight without a pkb
or at least maybe the aura up on the broodmother you You're looking for Pipe here
first for Ace as Pipe
first for 33 will be there
as well, though it does feel like the Pipe
for Gaiman is a bit more valuable
Liquid seemed a lot
more reliant on magic
damage, it's also
very strong item
versus the ET aura
and the stanking.
from the invoker,
right?
So.
Cannot dispel
pipe.
Ah, that's true. Well, Sam dispelled from proof Cannot Dispel Pike.
Plus they have Dispel from Broodmaster as well, so it's even here in terms of Dispel power.
I just think gaming or not is reliant on the
magical damages team like SF, ALF,
Broodmother... kind of mostly physical
cores to be honest like they have some spell power early but
they kind of just want to get into the fight and start right clicking you down
with like a drum buff up and some extra attack speed,
brood shard later on.
Yeah you can start off with the wars on this brood
but we've seen ace do hybrid builds
on the serial before.
We'll still make the five man very strong here for liquid
And I think it is an absolute fine item choice here for 33.
Just want to get something done with it early
maybe threaten Roshan. That's another
big question mark here for Liquid. We talked about
some of the Roche killers they've used over the course of the tournament
The two biggest ones for them, I think, have been
the Beastmaster and the Templar Assassin.
They don't really have a good hero
to take down early Roshanth,
which might be giving Gaiman some breathing room
here in terms of, alright, we're not
being too pressured to force
a contest here anytime soon yeah which leaves a big question mark right now game and you're
actually getting to play dota here or or Liquid are going to play Dota.
For now. Game of Gladiators is still gonna
hit some window at like 25 minutes
and try and mow you down. Great, so that's the question.
What do you do in this next 5 minute period
if you're Liquid to try and slow down that pace
or ramp up your own tempo.
I don't think Roche is fast
enough, and the Tier 1s are already dead,
so you kind of have a smoke to the triangle
or a smoke to try and find the alchemist running good pick up if they
can get it who's gonna make the jump misha does not fish for it that does he could add an
opportunity blink up to the high ground there and get vision for his team.
Doesn't do any of that. Maybe he felt like
the terrain was in awkward position, but I think
you have to kind of just go on these plays
like you're making them because you feel like
you're stronger. And if you're going gonna group four team fighters or something like that...
I mean just blink blind and see what you find.
Maybe giving game gladiators too much credit
that they are set up there.
Doesn't want to stumble into an ambush.
Yeah but- Ooh! I mean look at their lineup yeah alchemist shadow feet are not ambushing you like these guys are just farming the whole map right now and they're
getting away with it this game is almost some psychological warfare starting to feel like
like liquid keep expecting gaming the group up and push them and if not coming they did
it to him in 20 series in a row now all of a sudden they're just farming 20 minute death pushes on me
like guys it's 17 minutes our base isn't getting sieged like Like, what's happening?
Game of Gladiators fair lineup requires a different kind
of timing,
And we'll see if they're as proficient at hitting this one
as they were with so many other
teams. Their 20 minute
death ball push that they kept on reaching
33 holds
the mid tower, puts the Brute Brother
in that free push across.
They just head up to the top tower instead
and take over that triangle.
I wonder if this game has almost been annoying for Liquid
in a sense of they built this line-up
to fight them early and often
take the five-man fights and defend the towers,
it just hasn't been there.
There's another poke that gets reactions out of Liquid
and isn't actually a move or is it?
Nisha jumps forward only only hits the Burrow Strike
on one. So how Tofu
does not get landed by that one and
the EMP pulls
him out. Nice stop though! Oh what a nice stop
That's gonna sit up mid-game for the Wukong's command with a blast off on top of that one.
Now the Kingdom Gladiators core, oh there it is to jump in from the Requiem
To try and blow up the Sand King as well as the Plus One they got him
And Mikkei is fighting for his life against a horde of spiders
and won't be able to do much there.
Primal split, plus a stomp,
and Sania's going to make
a run for it, but Duraccio and Ace will hunt them down.
They all end on the supports,
but it's the cores of gaming gladiators
who have come online
and are ready to fight
and they're going to team wipe Liquid
if they can find 33 here
with a stun! No, they don't the stun no they don't no they don't okay well he's still stuck
in a corner here he's gonna make it cost to gain gladiators as much time as possible but surely could deny itself to roche could he try the clap goes out and it's not
and now you're in roshan should have ran the other way maybe i was thinking the exact same
thing this is not what you want away from ron sean at this point this is not a good ending to
the fight for liquid they're going to lose Rosh after all this.
I mean, it's a beautiful stomp. You have to take
that there but you end up committing
a lot and Quinn just has no fear.
No stuns left goes in massive
Requiem takes out Nisha
and the other two cores are playing outside that Wukong.
Really nice positioning here from Gaiman towards...
Oh, hand to God saves him.
Nisha though slips in from behind
and a Steiner to the backside. We'll finish him off.
I mean, that's just brutal that
fight happens in that way where GameNard
literally in the pit at the end
with all three cores who are pretty good
at doing roshan with the minus on from the alchemist
yeah now you're suddenly down 10k off of what looked like a good setup by the way this alc he went to mantha before the bkb so dorachio ends up winning
that fight without making bkb and now this mantha is going to pay off because you can
just push out lanes with better farm up faster get into the BKB even sooner here.
Mid-gang, meeting in the BKB next we saw that with
the Requiem fear he was pushed out of his ultimate last time not a fun interaction for
him neither is this incapacitating bite the frost armor is once again up for the chen
another very obnoxious spell for the monkey king
the whole time you're getting some of your armor reduced if you're not in the
wukong you just get bursted from acid spray plus presence presence.
Looks like they're going to stick around on this side of the map
try and take wisdom rune
on both sides
liquid are very clearly set up.
There's a lot of vision here. Sentry obs trapped for the evoker,
should grab him and... Lightning air into blastoffing double mine explosion will do
the kill! Surprised we dropped the blue pong's command there they got a reaction
out of game gladiators so they'll call quits on trying to steal the wisdom room
just say that the kill on ancicients and an Invoker is good enough.
So we see Drumblad's out of the Chen,
Greaves done on the Brood,
Daemon have four big auras which are all really nice for their big right clickers here
look at her trying to match it drum on the elder titan with pipe on the brew
and she was being built by the sand king actually they have double drum on the side of liquid
got him on the gliden here quick dispel but they have to follow up with the stop
the blast off the burrow strike there's no lacking in stunts for Liquid.
That's for sure.
Those types of kills are very efficient
for their lineup. They would love a lot more
than this game.
It's kind of the idea that whole, like, 10-15 minute window
where they were struggling to find kills.
Yeah, but if you look at these networks
this has arguably been the best position
with Ben versus game in this entire event.
Yeah, they're down by 7k and it's an alchemist lineup so i mean
doubt 7k and this you may as well be pushing gaiman's base sheba's complete for nisha
and uh they can taste victory right now.
Guys, we have two or three years off.
Gaming Gladiators by the way
have I believe 10 wins in under 35 minutes at this event.
I think Liquid are probably full-stack too though
to be fair.
Yeah! Quinn gets the timing perfectly man
well set up.
Tornado from Tofu you don't need blink yules for this sf that was just crisp
absolutely beautiful combination here even at illusion
this doesn't even get anything off you
and there's some variable timings there too
yeah that's not the
Kaya Yasha Kaya, Yasha-Kaya.
And the tornado lift is only for various amounts of time depending on levels.
Pure feel.
He's gotta use his ult for fear of what else is coming!
And it's Gwyn who tries to back up Tofu's play there,
but Liquid have the backup from Nikkei.
Nikkei has already killed Tofu.
So gaming gladiators get on out.
Still this Aegis for a minute.
You got the BKB on the shadow being wukong down
gaiman don't really have interest in pushing maybe don't want to give this big fight to
a lot of the aoE control that Liquid have.
Like, when you push into them,
you do have to be careful.
There's their Stomp, Earth Splitter, Sandstorm,
Epicenter, Brewmaster, Ulti Haze, Grease Pipe.
Liquid have definitely built themselves up to combat what Gaming are trying to do against them
and it is working a little bit here
they're a lot more confident to take these fights
go look for plays
this ward in the corner, it is very well set up
for them to go
for another kill
not just on Ace
but maybe Celery as well
as they're going
to find that bro strike.
Lead open
on the Broodmother
with a blast off
follow-up
trying to get
Hurricane away,
but he's still stomped.
A Mine goes off.
Glitner catched and bound
the Shrike.
They're stretching out
trying to get this kill
and they do manage
again this time around
when Mickey is committed
into Totee.
One raise, two raise
pops a BKB.
Can he get the Lifesteal
off?
The Life Seal is not going to be good enough
as a pure damage Sunstrike cuts through that.
Now 33 on the run has a Primal Split.
Are they going to try and turn this around?
Is he going to have to use a primal split
just to be able to escape here.
Gaming gladiators are gonna force it out of him
And he'll use the split
They're chasing here
They've got the fire panda okay push up go to try gate on all of
the pandas the earth one managed to make it prove
how far can he make in five more seconds put a next level play
he forced his own EarthBand off the hill and he spotted, oh after all that I mean it was a sick move
He'll buy more time but a blink from Quinn puts it right on 33 as he went for the TP.
And they'll finally catch him.
That was kind of a sick escape though.
Honestly I thought he had almost no way out of there at 33 showing off some
sick micro here, but it is all for not as gaming eventually find their prey
And this team fight struggles for Liquid continue.
Just can't find their footing in these full-on exchanges
in terms of winning that long fight.
I mean, how many times have we seen Liquid
just all in for a kill that they can't quite get easily.
I mean, they got Ace in the end
but it committed Micke to death.
Very hard for Micke to stand there and just deliver when he's up against Radiance, Incapacitating
Bite.
The second his PKB is out, he's just food if you haven't won the fight by that point.
This Monkey King just needs more scale right now.
He was trying to get it through an Aghanim Scepter. This Monkey King just needs more scale right now.
He's trying to get it through an Agatep Scepter.
Almost gets caught slipping back into his base off of a very deep board placed by Tofu.
The Broodlings are also just being micro'd out
the Scout here from ace
lets these advanced parties feel a bit more secure and
well, they do not need ages to hit these buildings confident in their bkbs
You can see off there they're ward positioning one behind the tier two bottom another
one leading around that tier 2 mid they are trying to lock Liquid in right now.
You just start to feel the damage here for Liquid
to defend these towers with pick off attempts?
Little pickoff from Durantio with his blink dagger, these towers. We'll pick off a little
pickoff here from Dorachio
with his blink dagger reveal
the tanky man there's no help
nobody can punish
The Alchemist diving to your
twos i think
salary's just gonna make sure this
bottom lane stays in which is going to
allow gaiman to rotate across the map
here set up on something else easy
pickings here with the Ghost Walk.
Do we have any detection here?
Box, he's just sitting under a Ghost Walk.
He knows it.
And there is Nisha nearby,
but on the other side, Quinn.
Man, dropped the Requiem on him.
Yeah. Assuming that
I guess there were more heroes around which he wasn't wrong
Nisha was in the neighborhood
And Celery continues to live
on your side of the map. His champion enchantress it's just his mo
i mean look at the dire wards right now compared to radiant yeah like the value is not even close
game and see almost everything they wanted right now whereas liquid they have
one rating on this bottom lane and they can't really get back to it here
just taken over the map during in the last three minutes.
Teamfight item picked up, Nisha gets
BKB
Will Liquid try and use
that timing? Do we have a smoke to be able
take advantage of it? I think you have to if you're Liquid.
You can't just keep waiting in this game
for them to go into you
and find that crazy turnaround.
Got to use the Sand King offensively.
You do pick up a Basher
from Monkey King at the same time, so you're synchronizing
some fighting power here. If you can get
some clutch bashes on this
Monkey King, could make all the difference.
You get real lucky and stop SF
Requiem from going off but this is the problem that warding difference
you just see so little right now it's very hard to judge where you should smoke if
your liquid yeah and of course gaming they see so far in a lot of these lanes it's like
okay well no one's farming mid nolan's farming top i mean they're probably making a move guys
and they just clump that crimson guard is going to block so much of the damage
of the Monkey King now.
It's a very strong item here.
Crimson Angreaves to back up this Alkaness
that we're already creating an armor differential here
with the present slash acid spray.
Between the wards and the spiders, so much vision from gaming gladiators
and liquid probably right not to push into that jungle area.
Game of Gladiators is going to push back into you, though.
Nisha left him behind.
He's got to break the smoke.
He gets targeted.
Now he has a shield room.
He's very tanky, but is he tank enough
to deal with a Requiem?
Is Madge Requiem at that? Not at all.
No BKB Sanking, this fight is already on the back foot for Liquid
And Tarantino's gonna force it
Mickey is forced to use his Wukong's command
and hope that the
Glidener can lock him in long enough, but he's not.
Now, can he find any room to hop away or get it up
to the high ground?
Silence is wearing out good stuff from Insania before before staffs might have just failed them out here
but not everybody insania dorachio's just done a really great job of like
these fights they know their one and Dorachio always finds
an extra hero going backward
chemical rage oh Dorachio
pushed too far this time around
just tearing into the tier 2s like that but he can't
wait until the force staff comes out again.
Liquid baited into an idea
that they could have the damage
what they just do not in game at Gladiators.
Just like that have wiped you maybe.
33 making a run.
Oh, there's going to be another Unstable Concoction
Another Orc and another round of spells
And that's a team-wide game in Gladiators
Do you think anything else was gonna happen at at 30 minutes i mean they were looking for a tarantula
throw but there is no such thing in this series absolutely nothing has been free for liquid
overcome middle on an alchemist that seemed out of position.
Nah, we have the ability to bail him out here, sayGaymon.
And once more it's a fight lost
on the wrong part of the map for Liquid.
Butthorn lots of damage!
Nisha! BKb has to be used now you have nine seconds nothing
to defend the base and 20 seconds left on the monkey king that is a full lane call it 30 minutes if you want
gaming gladiators
we do it again, man.
They're just unstoppable when this team is in form.
You cannot make mistakes.
You just cannot slip up on the map.
You can't give them breathing room
because they take so much away from you
they demand perfection out of their opponents or else they will end the game early they've
done it not just a liquid they've done it to so many other
teams. They did it to Falcons that
game two and three, full 30-minute victories.
They've proven
they can do this
to anyone. It's a nice setup from Liquid, maybe not expected but...
...Biters giving it a little bit of a shout out.
Chivas goes out for a strike leading on to Ace.
Blast off, all winging up with their they're separating targets here as Mickey jumps in.
What is he going to do with this one?
Foxes BKB and starts backing away.
And back at him.
Retreat is death for Liquid.
Death for at least one.
Foxy's got the first one down wukong span goes out and i shoot
we're hopping away from this one liquid trying to retreat but got him on the bloodthorn in unstable
concoction drop a wreck with no weight gets tossed up in the air by the Storm
Panda. Nick Ake will eventually get burned out
though and now back on solid ground
Quinn drops that Requiem
for the final touch in this team fight
liquid
Stomp from Insania touch in this team fight. Liquid is stomped
from Insania, but he'll
be run down eventually by
something. He tries to go for the neutral creep
tonight. It'll be three dead on the side of Liquid
at the end.
They just cannot sync the of Liquid at the end. They just cannot sink
the control up
with the damage.
There's nothing to drop
a Wukong on here.
Gaiman are able
to kite it out.
There's no threat
to the BKBs early,
so they can just
hold onto them.
Didn't even need
a Requiem really
to win that exchange.
And his second time
the game of Gladiators
may win the game off
one Aegis because
they're not going back
for the second.
I mean, why waste time
killing Roche when you can
not waste time
ending the game
this push has come together at the 30 minute mark maybe a little slower of
a death ball but it got there in the end.
And now you're just lacking the damage.
Monkey King did not find
the momentum he was
looking for in this game. He did not find
it at Game 1 either.
And this was supposed to be one of your better tools against gaming. Supposed to be one of the faster carries who can fight early, make
rotations and match that speed. It's been a struggle.
Two lanes, barracks down. Game of Gladiators
will now back up to take Roshan
and Abyssal Blade next for durachio we've got
so many items a lot of gaming gladiators with a 30 000 net worth lead i just don't know how you
control these heroes double four staffs up on the supports, boots
of Bering for Celery as well. There's so
much disengage.
You have to find a chain stun here
under an ET Spirit.
Liquid's desperate to try and contest Roshan here,
Game of Gladiators isn't doing it, they're setting up for a team fight
And they found that opportunity! They burned the mana out of the Brewmaster!
That is trouble! Still has 10 seconds left until he has split anyway but it doesn't have mana right now
has to use the greaves here just to get it back
and look at the illusions that's just getting full read of everything Liquid is doing right now and burning away
on him.
I mean you have a damn damage rune for mid-game, it's wearing out!
You've got 10 seconds left if you couldn't take the fight with this.
Doesn't get better for now he just cannot find the
initiation they're read every step of the way by ace who spreads his spiders all over and by
the way game if they do not have to force anything here because that top wave is hitting tier fours.
Liquid are the ones under pressure to make the move.
The war goes off. Tofu walking...
Sits up on a high ground, Liquid running into him.
But sweep around the side here.
Mickey's going to try and go off the corner
to get a good Wukong command inside of the Roshan pit.
Game of Gladiators can see background though
okay on the back side they're gonna look for nikkei
doesn't show himself drachio stunning. Again, pressure's on Liquid to start the fight though.
He's gonna start on Mikkei
so he can get out that PKP
Mikkei is going to hold onto it
Epicenter is going to be used right. Durachio comes into it,
but Durachio is very tanky
and he shrugs off the damage rather easily
when Wukong's command goes out
but look at that already outside of it!
No real damage whatsoever
from that Wukong's command
and if you don't have the Wukong's command. And if
you don't have the Wukong's command, where
is the damage going to come from if you're liquid?
I did just have to get out.
No Wukong, no Earth Splitter,
no Epicenter.
And you traded it all for some BKBs
and a Tier 4 damage.
It's full concession from Liquid. You can have
the Roadshot Gaming Gladiators. gaming gladiators
and you just cheese
by the way there's already a refresher
up on this shadow theme so you got to
deal with double
aggs requiem here with the bonus souls
and we've just seen a decent amount of them yeah i was going to mention 33. this
sf requiem is hitting incredibly hard right now.
I mean, hey! 33 souls he collected
from 33 here.
Everything fitting in a cursed world
for Liquid right now.
They cannot escape their fate it would seem
no no we can't 33 is hoping that uh four radiances will change the game frame somehow.
Meanwhile, Ace
finds more auras to buy.
Bought the first Crimson Guard of
Broodmother.
Now gets an AC ac so if the damage block wasn't enough there you've got some extra
armor so again they can't seem to keep the heroes inside of the wu kong cement but even if
they did much of the damage would be shrugged off by the many auras obtained gladiators
by the way that's a uh amp damage route on the Shadow Fiend.
We're going to watch a hero disappear here. Oh wait, no!
A little off the mark there.
Okay, he's got a second one. That's true, that's true.
Maybe they don't know. I, I've got a refresher
guys. Alacrity catapult is
going down. Quinn's
not gonna go for it and
gets burned out 33 now they go for it but
the strike hit him with the Burrow Strike.
Cast off so many stunts!
Can't they do this?
Earth Splitter cuts down the SF now for Dorachio.
Dorachio with his BKB walking back gets bashed up and one Quinn
But Quinn already got out with an Orgrseal Totem
and a BKB. He's out of the Wukong's command
and Liquid... do they dare to pursue?
It was so scary to chase. They're trying to!
There's still a Requiem up.
Durantje comes back in for a Force Staff up to the high ground.
Nice play by Boxy. Gets
the initiation out of Duraccio without
dying.
I thought Quinn was gonna go back in there.
Daemon are respecting the team fight of Liquid here.
Maybe just don't want to play the fight
without the BKB on the Shadow Beam
to guarantee that Requiem pop.
Very fast stuns from Liquid salvage that fight,
but Dorachio...
This man does not care.
Nope, you used a bunch of spells
and you couldn't kill Dorachio the first time around.
He doesn't think you have it in you
to be able to do a second go without wukong's man
that epicenter and he may be right about this one as he starts shipping away at
the melee barracks the only thing remaining between liquid and mega creeps have to defend
this racks you have to be careful about when you go in with the stunts if you go
in with boundless slash burrow it opens up opportunity for that ref room to come out they created on a nice edge trying
to make something magical happen here just being a nuisance.
We'll chip away a little bit more
at them melee barracks.
I mean,
if they want to slow siege this,
they can.
They absolutely can, yeah.
Just do it with every alchold
Every time he gets stunned
forced half him out
you will eventually get Megas here so
we're going to have to do something offensive
Dorachou could also just full-in commit with his BKB
Also possible yeah
and it looks like he's gonna go for it
They have a Glyph, Liquid
hit the Stomp
The Glyph not
going to be used. Liquid are just saying
half Megas
We're in it for the long haul and they have Liquid are just saying, have megas.
We're in it for the long haul
and we have made it to 39 minutes.
I guess that's the long hole?
Yeah, I guess. You know what know just try and stretch this game out to 16.
turn it around even checking for the little uphill wards here with sunstrike
everything on point but of course game Gladiators not one to stretch things
out. They got Amegas.
They can chill if they wanted to, but they won't.
I don't think Dorachio knows
what the word chill means.
Certainly not. This man is trying to speedrun another
grand final here. On to
another objective!
Tier 4s.
TPs are back up. They could look for aggressive jumps. Only person on the map right now is Mikkei on this Monkey, desperately trying to find some neutral tokens and more gold.
Yeah you got tier 4s to get.
Those are big upgrades.
Alacrity's four spirits continue
to whittle down these towers.
And Dorshow lost his courier actually.
Aghanim's on the Elder Titan but there's also a Divine Rapier about to be purchased by Mikke.
If his team could just hold on for like a minute or two.
But it's coming fast, man.
Duraccio has already chopped out one of these tier fours
and the second one is falling fast.
33, he's trying to draw some attention.
You're going to have to pop that primal split.
A stomp? insania starts punching
it there goes the old requiem not really doing too much but clearing out some brew links an epicenter
that also doesn't do too much as nisha fails the initiation they're're gonna wait out these ults.
Maybe recognize Divine Rapier on this Monkey King.
Yeah, he's surely spotted now.
Still a refresher on the Shadow Beam.
If you chase on the side of Liquid,
You have to keep it in mind.
He's got the level 20 talent as well
The Boundless Strike critical damage
So with this Divine Rapier it is significant upgrade in
damage. But can one spell change the
fate of Liquid?
Especially if Gaiman just decided to
wait for another Roshan here.
They're not exactly under too much pressure to...
...to end this game.
Maybe just Dorachio telling them I want to, but...
They can play it safe. Get some Tier 4 neutral tokens of their own.
Yeah get level 25 on Alchemist with Overwhelming Blink. I mean this is
just your human sentry here
as well right? Yeah. Like Liquid
can never make a move through this Ghost Walk and
Poker. If it's not Celery in the early
game it's Tofu in the late game, It's tofu and a light game.
One of these gaming gladiators supports
is always getting information off you.
That's like the old school patrol key,
You know?
Yeah.
Look at the tormentor Yeah. We'll use a Tormentor.
I'm not sure if there's an Aghanim Shard
in the game
that will help Liquid enough, but the game. That will
help Liquid enough, but
it's the same games.
A little bit of extra epicenter pulse with his
20 talent as well.
NickA is going to try and pick up his shards so
then he can use that boundless strike
to close the gap on...
You're going for SF?
Is that the best target?
I think that's the best one for sure if you could snag it.
He's got all these bonus souls
and everything.
It's very difficult
to get on top of the shadow beam good time
to get a little recap of what game and gladiators have been up to since the last five minutes
and uh it's been living inside of liquid space. That's what they've been up to.
Very little openings.
It does look like a patrol.
You just hit the Patrol key, go back and forth on the ramp.
Well,
he did get your auras on the Brewmaster.
Yeah, apparently he's abandoned
the Radiance. Auras are broken, right?
Yeah, well, when you're one aura item behind at all times
gaming gladiators aura maxing to the core
get that lead.
It's 2 or 3k.
They get that first aura item, they use
that to get a bigger lead, another
aura item and it extends and extends.
And there is
no shortage of
Aura items to buy.
Shortage
of camps to farm, getting level 25 now between the SF and the Alchemist.
Some nice late game talents here.
So we got the Instacast Requiem now if he uses Feast of Souls.
And the movement speed here means you sell
the boots, fully six-sly yourself
Nullifier and Strength Link now up
for this Alchemist so there's
very little you can do to save the targets he jumps
He wants to commit in.
And Roche is back,
will be instantly scouted by a Broodling.
No hard part is it.
I feel like nowadays teams are so disciplined
that nobody just,
uh...
Nobody gets caught inside the Roshan pit anymore.
Maybe it's a difference in where the pit is,
you know, being on the corner as opposed to
the older days of being closer to the middle
of the back.
But just feels like
the winning team is
pretty much guaranteed
to be either taking Roshan
or they take a fight outside of the Roshan pit
where they're sitting in some trees
or some high ground.
The enemy team has to walk into them
very difficult to go up the ramp unless you can get vision there very hard to
give vision there unless you have someone who's an insane
frontliner most of times if you're behind in the
current meta you don't have those things.
So this will be Aegis on the Shadow Fiend.
And Ace is going to get a BKB?
Yeah, he went...
Where's that 6th aura?
What does the Exodiavora sound like? that's six dora
i mean what is the exodia of auras i don't know you should already bought all the other ones yeah exactly that's from I know.
Wraith Bat is missing one.
Tier 4 down, thrown exposed.
Gaming Gladiators have every advantage you could possibly hope for to close out this game.
They're going to lead off, trying to get it.
Oh!
Still got off the record win thanks to the BKB despite that quick jump in from Nisha.
The burrow strike hit at the same time as Quinn went in, but
Quinn went in safely with a BKB. They got one buyback out of Lickett
and many more ults to go
Do lose the banner
Massive blow here for the push true very disciplined exchange from gaming
take a five buyback and reset although this with 40k net worth lead.
Nikkei's gonna have a Vista Blade, so if he can get the jump on somebody
with this Defiant Rapier maybe he could pop them.
ForceNav trying to get him out of the way for 33.
Just no Flyer can't get away.
No buy!
It's a 4 versus 5 now with an Aegis on Game and Gladiators
at 40,000 net worth lead
And they're throwing a half HP
A jump onto Duraccio
Duraccio is forcing the attention of Liquid
on to him.
McCay, wins he gonna hit this foul
and the Shryde goes for it
but got hit by the Requiem at the same time!
Quinn's back up with full health
and they'll chase after Insania
for the dieback
Now its two Nisha with a PKB throw striking out of
the base but you're thrown is dead!
2-0 now for Gaming Gladiators Grand Finals.
They have been here before as well.
We saw only one team come back in the history of
Game and Gladiator Grand Finals from this position.
It was Azurearae at KL
earlier this year, and they
reverse-flecked it. And
I'll just say,
Dragiu did call that he was going to 3-0
this final. That is true. And he did say that against Aj this final. That is true. And, he did say that against Adjarae.
That is true. So, we'll see if
he jinxed himself. However,
these are very different circumstances.
Yeah, I hope so.
What do you mean? You know, I think Liquid has also been here before
and are maybe starting to get some flashbacks.
Some very unpleasant flashbacks right now
about watching another team lift the trophy that they have longed for for a very long time
this would be another crushing defeat for them
to be this close once more and lose it to the same team again
in the same way. At some point
you have to question what your reality
is and whether you're going insane. I feel like
I'm going insane
watching this play out.
The story of Sisyphus continues for a liquid as the boulder is just about to roll back down the hill for them in their attempt
to win another Grand Finals.
Down 0-2 against Gaming Gladiators.
Gaming Gladiators, can we just take a moment, Cazu,
to appreciate how insane these guys are?
Yeah I think we can and we have to because it's not
just about the drafts and what they do with their auras
going together in 10 or 15.
You make the first move on them,
they dodge it.
They make that first move on you,
they succeed.
You get your blink dagger
and Celery does some playmate
where he baits it,
pushes himself away...
It's all the small little things
which ultimately is what gives them the lead later on.
This game was looking a bit more competitive
at least for the first 10 minutes?
Yeah they weren't even that... They were
behind 1k gold against an outliner
at minute ten, eleven, twelve.
That's not a big problem but the problem is when
they dodge your moves, they get their Auras
and go together to hit their timings. I just feel like there's a little
bit of maybe the clutchness factor
missing for Liquid to succeed with their
moves. I don't know if it's game in or they're just out moving
you so hard that you can't make any
of those moves but they need to find an answer for the next game.
And they did also got gamed
a little bit in the draft with
Shadow Fiend last pick coming out.
I didn't see it coming. I don't think they
saw it coming either. I think going to the next game maybe just
maybe you have to remove the chen or pick something where instead of taking these
long fights you can be like boom we're gonna take a fast fight bad rider with
a timber saw pure damage i don't know what it is!
It's up to them to figure it out.
Okay, quick question...
Why doesn't Liquid play Chen or Enchantress if it's so good?
Apparently they don't want to play it.
I don't know.
Seems like they're missing out!
They are missing out, but then you need
to find a different answer because sometimes
play to your strengths...
I feel right now they're trying
the match game and maybe
they can find a way to stick to their comfort
while finding the answer against what they need to do.
So is it just that simple?
It starts from the draft, but it's not...
Because the thing is,
it's not just drafting we see this every time
it's like all they need to do
is deal with this hero and theraft and we say this every time. It's like all they need to do is deal with
this hero in the drafts and be prepared for that
hero on their radar but then
a game comes along
and maybe you know they have a shot
and start off really strong but the gameplay itself yeah it's
it is not it is not just a draft there's game play it's all the small things like we're saying
where they dodge your move like there's something on stage or in their grand finals when you go
against gaming it just looks like your moves are harder to do. You need to be faster, more decisive
have better setup and they're missing out on that right now. Yeah we did see quite a few
couple of clutches of course the stun from the Racho and TheAlchemist as he was about to potentially
die when his chemical rage ended. And then very early on there was another cool play
by The Rod Show and it is BSJ that would like to tell us more about that.
Thank you, Sheever
as the story of this tournament for Gaiman has been the laning phase
and teams struggling to get past it
in this game I wanted to break down something
that befuddled me a little bit
as the casters were befuddled themselves of how Duraccio was having such
a seemingly tough early game but how they managed to come back partially
due to the mistakes of Liquid.
So we're going to start off my first clip by showing
a nice casual self-stunned secure the range creep for Duraccio and you're gonna see that
he's already died once, and once he dies here as we
pause, we're going to see that his TP
is on a 50 second cooldown.
So you're like okay this guy's 0-2
started the lane
how does he end up being the number one net worth
so convincingly later?
So as we see,
Duraccio has actually smoked his way
back to lane.
So he's going to be here
a little bit earlier
than Liquid is expecting
because they knew
his TP was on cooldown
and they're going to decide to commit
onto Celery here, 33 and Boxy.
And, notice how Celery's level 3
and Alchemist is only level 1.
But, look at what happens after this.
Durachio's going to take most of Boxy's HP
and Boxy's going
to barely escape,
but this is something
that you really shouldn't
feel like should be happening
if Duracho's only level one.
So this is barely
30 seconds later.
Boxy has salved up, you think okay
maybe we can pressure Duraccio a little bit more
Celery gets the pull off over here
but they're gonna go on Celery again
and I want to highlight that Boxy in 33 who have control of this lane so far, they're both sitting at full HP right now.
And Duracho is barely level 2.
So what happens here is they are going to go on Celery
and they are gonna get the kill which seems great for Liquid and all, but look
at the results after the play. We see
Boxy that's going to drop below half,
no mana from the tower,
and 33 who's below half with
no mana, and Duraccio.
Full HP,
half mana.
Suddenly this lane is looking
a little bit better for Duraccio.
Then we pull up the next clip.
Has Liquid learned their lesson yet?
Let's find out.
Duraccio and Celery,
you see them actually setting up on Boxy for the blast off.
They go on Celery again
and there is going to be virtually no
investment from Duraccio who, out of all of these
engagements, has taken virtually no damage.
So suddenly, after being 0-2 at a minute and half into the game
Dorachio is the number one net worth only four minutes in
And this is crucial part of what gets gaming off the ground they
have such a tempo based lineup liquid perhaps choosing the wrong hero to be
aggressive on will they mix up that approach in game three because they had
a lot of things going for them in the first three minutes,
but it's got to be more than good first three minutes
just to take a game off of gaming.
Let's check in with Purge and Fear
to see what they're doing out in the audience.
Thanks PSJA. Yeah I'm hanging out out with Fear and we're looking at this Club Champion trophy
and the wall.
I'm really excited to see what happens but so far it's looking a little one-sided.
Yeah, Gaemond is one game away from getting their name on there.
And Liquid really have to pull together as Ryan did say
they had a good three minutes but they got to last longer
than that against Gaming Gladys
as this is a team that will run you over
and the force plays They had a bunch of good team fight
items and liquid just can't answer it i really had more hope at the start of the game though because
they were pressuring dyrracha like brian pointed out And the mid lane wasn't looking so good.
Quinn got two solo kills
I believe. So it was like there's hope
but why did the net worth not change?
Like they were getting kills on the Gladiator
heroes and just starting to know. It didn't bug.
They just kept farming with Alchemist, right?
And they made that one rotation to the portal
to the bot lane and that changed everything
it opened up the lane for Dorachio
he got top net worth of the game, Quinn continued to have
top net worth and then Ace yeah he didn't
have a great game but those two cores just
carried him through the mid game
Yeah and then they just kept buying aura items which
solidified the game so we'll see if
the same thing happens in the next game we're going to jump
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But Team Liquid, they really, really
prepared for this. But we have yet to see
this preparation really pay off
potentially in this game number three.
We'll see it. I will say
though, Gaiman is looking incredibly strong.
Will Team Liquid be able to force out a next game in this best-of-five series?
It's very much dependent on the draft that we're going to break down with Kezu, BSJ and Fear.
For game number three, we'll have Team Liquid on the Dyrus side,
we will have Gaming Gladiators on the Radiance side
We have a change up! A big one!
Snapfire and Hootwink still in the pool and we got three new bands well newish
i should say in chen enchantress and the broodmother brewmaster there as well, TA and Sven banned out.
But so far the one left in Kazoo
is when you asked me about earlier it's Doom!
I feel like they're either gonna first pick that
or ban it away. I do like at least to change a 14
liquid i will say that i don't think they're losing only on draft there's no way that that
is the fact but you always want to make it more simple and i feel like when they're when they
didn't ban the chain inch they, they never got trades. At least
when you leave in the Weaver, Hoodwink, Snapfire, whatever
you can trade. Then play your lanes and
just let the skill kind of speak for itself
because in the last games their laning stages
in my opinion have not been on par i think brian you showed that also
in your segment because something needs to change you know i'm gonna i'm gonna help some copium here
as a last team to get reverse sweeped in the grand final was Game and Gladiators themselves.
And you call Lomper against Azure Ray,
and if anybody recalls game three,
Game and Gladiators had a commanding lead
and then one play turned that game
I feel like shifted the entire momentum of that series.
And based on what I saw from Team Liquid in Game 1
during my analysis and also when I was combing through
the early game, it just felt
like they're forcing a lot of things. They feel
panicked. They're doing...
They're making uncharacteristic
mistakes, and I almost feel like they've
lost faith that they can trust that they can just
play their own game, and it'll be enough.
And I think one play in the mid-game of
this game could
shift the tides of that entire dynamic,
so that's my copium for the series.
Well they do go back to
some of their ideasphere that
started with Tiny on the first pick
for Team Liquid.
This is definitely their last chance
here.
Luckily it is a
best of five they're
trying multiple
different angles
here on how to
crack the gaming
gladiators code this
time they decided
it's going to be
the chin brood
enchantress we're going to ban out these heroes we's going to be the Chen, Brood and Chancher so we're gonna ban out these
heroes. We're gonna leave in the OP supports
that we lost to in game number one
here. That is fine and we're just gonna
probably make a trade. So they're going for
what I see as the last angle here to try and beat gaming gliders
will it work we'll have to see here and this is where things can be either
very promising for you if you take this game like hey
they're winning because of these heroes i I think we've figured out the formula
or it's going to be very demoralizing and be like,
we just can't crack this code. We cannot crack Gaming Gladiators
And this is going to be
an interesting matchup already. Weavers
are a very strong hero right now. of the big uh position fours and carries
that are strong in the lane but team liquid has shown this tiny it's been very impressive for them
and it is very good versus weaver as well so so far still far, still good, fingers crossed.
I will say that I like the follow-up
bands from Gaming Gliders. I feel like Weaver is
just an incredible support and they also
like taking out the ones that I feel like they threaten
you more. If I play Weaver into a Snapfire, which is what
they left open, I don't really care. Like being
caught by a cookie's really hard. Dying to
Mortimer's Kisses as well so their ban
kind of on point there but if I'm Team Liquid
you still need to look for a similar combo. You
need to have your Tiny being able with
follow-up damage if they're going to look to have Nisha played
which I feel like generally has
been the case for them. You just have the Crash landing
whatever, good mid lane, have some combos because
they're going to need supports that can play with their
bro Tiny. Yeah I mean the bad news
is though is Weaver is one
of Team Liquid's most banned heroes
and they have not beat it yet. So that's
obviously not great, but
they do have the tiny this time. This is a first
pick Weaver, and I don't think Tarachu
has played this Weaver yet, which
I think could be good news for him.
It definitely fits
into his arsenal of heroes but
if there's other heroes open
which obviously they are right? They're Alchemist
even the CK.
That's a hero that was banned out I believe in the last two games.
This is the first time he IS going through.
Almost certainly pick it up as against Beastmaster
one of the best things to do is just be aggressive consistently close
the gap on him pressure so he doesn't have the ability to send the board to stack the ancients
and play for efficiency i can't fathom any other pick than ck coming out for gaming gladiators
you know i remember in pure's interview and tundra is in the upper bracket if it ain't broke
why would i bother fixing it now sure game of gladiators is thinking something similar
as this is the first time that Team Liquid
on second pick, because second pick gets four first round
bans, that they've elected to just
eliminate all the summons or his buyers
that Gaiman has used as their
staple to their strategy. so it is a completely different
approach than we've seen in any
of the four games from Team Liquid
as they've been first picking three of those.
There's the CK. What pairs with it
to help punish this Beastmaster in lane?
If we go back an hour ago to the pregame
of this one, I talked about
Darachio's two heroes
I don't want to see him play. One was
Brood, other one was CK. Try to make them in a position where they feel like Dorachou has to expand as something else that honestly he hasn't been very successful outside of three heroes right now but he's getting those three heroes on the fact his top two heroes every single time so team liquid
are taking completely different routes i do like the fact that they're not giving chin away at
least so that is one good thing but they'll grab another Aura Buyer here in the Enigma.
Not entirely sure where this one's going to go.
It can go into the offlane. Could also
be a position 5 for them if
they want to go that route. But yeah,
I don't know if any of us could have called Enigma on this particular one.
It doesn't stand out like a super good Enigma game by any means but...
Why Zoras? I suppose.
Yeah they haven't picked it yet.
On either Celery or Ace so
This is completely new hero for GG and that's kind of based on what Liquid's forced to be done by the Auras, like you said.
I mean one of the nice things is they can mask it until later because your Weaver could be the 4 where the Enigma can go into the offlane or...
Otherwise, if they feel like okay fine we'll just put the Enigma 5 pick in the offlane
and they can do that after these next two picks.
But for Liquid this support pool is kind of starved
at least from the ones that you would want to take and want to play
you need to help your beast in the lane against a ck enigma so what does my
bro boxy want to cook here snapfire in the pool
he is in the pool still yeah okay that's one of the ones he could go for if you want stuff
Focus on trying to win laning stage here and that's gonna be a very early pick shadow thing here
One good thing about this here though for liquid is we saw earlier they're
willing to play it on multiple roles so they could play carry on the game i'm sure nisha
would love to plate as well if he has a lane matchup.
I guess it's still the question is like what support do you want to pick up? You said this snap
which probably makes
the most sense.
Arcee maybe just enable the SF flex.
Okay, Rubick for the black hole.
Yeah I mean I think Shadow Fiend is kind of like a specialty counter
to Enigma some people like to play it there
just because you can double raise the idolons
add a rubik blast on top of that we do know insania loves to play rubick position five so this
lane should be good if it is an enigma offlane.
Really good Rubick game though, you got Weaver and Enigmadunna still spells for me. Are we still going for any flex potential on the Tiny?
Because I once again look at this and...
Yes?
...I'm surprised that there might be position 5 coming out last
on the side of Team Liquid.
He can... Tiny could be a 4
with their Beast but I feel like this lane is not necessarily great
If I'm playing Beast,
I just prefer ranged forwards that help me
through the lane a little bit
because laning against CK
is not easy.
Sure Rubick is fine there
but Rubick also doesn't like to have heroes really run over him.
So I'm a little worried for that lane
But Gavin will be quite happy with this closing pick of a Dark Seer in this phase
Builds your Auras
He's good in lane.
I can't really say anything bad about it.
Hear me out for Shadow Demon
for Boxy. Last
overall pick, 5 position Rubick,
carry SF mid Tiny. demon dispel uh against the dark seer iron shell surge
to save against black hole create illusions of ck it's the dream the dream anything else or critiques well while you guys are thinking
about that let's get some words out from the coach of entity it's a steamy with purge yes see what do you
think about the draft so far I say GG they have position five that can build our us as
an enigma they have opposition three that can be with ours they have a position three that can do the rs they have a really strong
laner on ck on carry and weaver also really strong liner so they have what they had game
one game two we've seen what happened in game one and game two.
So really good draft from GG but it's time I see
Team Liquid maybe they can set a tempo of the game
because with Beastmaster they can do early roach
They can take objectives with these SFs. So if
they somehow get an early
lead, they can actually capitalize in this early
lead. I like this red from Liquid
better than the ones I've seen on the previous
games. What about the Tiny?
They had a lot of success with that in group stage,
just getting kills across the map consistently.
I don't know what position it's going to be at this point.
It's still flexible, but surely the toss facet,
the most OP facet in the game can do something right? It's definitely broken and good thing about Tiny as you said
You don't know their role because also GG cannot know their role cause he is a flex hero
So you can always choose to go position four on
the hero and you're gonna be a position for that cut waves
so if have a midi 4, you don't need to full commit
on playing the lane and you can cut waves against a team that always wants
to play
a very strong lane, as this CK Enigma.
Alright well thanks for joining me!
Thank you!
Thank you Astini and Purge!
It feels like Team League has got a better draft than the previous two games, but still very
much liking what Gaming Gladiators is cooking up as well.
It just kind of seems hard to get gaming out of their comfort zone I will say that it is
an absolute good point that they have the, they have the beast. They can look to get
the first ages with like the axe timing and then
play through their SF.
Also before this game I was thinking maybe they want to play some SF
Marcy, just some liquid strife. You know, set
the tempo yourself and try.
So I do like that they have their going for them but I will say Gaben have a very nasty draft
at least for now to deal with that.
They end up banning Windranger
at the very last second they had available and they pick up that sand king yeah
i mean they don't really play that a lot most likely gonna be when playing that one i'd like to
see the sf go mid sure bot lane might be a little hard and you're just like
last pick of Gyrocopter or something that can
lane against this Dark
Seer or Faceless Floyd would be okay with me.
I'd like to see them get a new carry because I really
think that Shadow Fiend with Aghs
really hard counters the CK.
And from the carry position, not so good.
So that could be really good for them but it looks like
they're just going to go for Clockwork instead
throwing most likely Tiny Mid and Carry SF.
This one not as big of a fan of
obviously Sand King can get out of that pretty easily
but it is a Black Hole cancel if you have the right angle
which is nice, you also have Roar for that and
the laning stage. I think
their plan is to potentially shut down Celery there.
Okay, I'm
also a bit confused. I would've liked
the pivot that Fiora was talking about with their type
of core heroes, put the S at mid.
So they're going with the clock. I wonder if there's also anything
I'm not seeing that they want to rotate
early on or do something funky with their lanes
because at least for now, I think Gaiman again have stronger lanes the only thing i can see for liquid is
that with the beast acts they help him a lot
early that they get this timing to get the ages
but if peace doesn't have a good lane and they stack for him, And then Gaiman brings the Sand King over there.
I feel like that could be really, really bad for Team Liquid.
I'm just nervous about CK Lane.
You said they're going to try
to pressure Seller with the clockwork,
but he's got Eidolons
to protect himself
against the battery assaults.
Looking forward a little bit
of pinball action
with the new cog facet.
But at the end of the day,
as we heard from the coach in the interview I think it's
the same story being told here. We're already about two-thirds of
the way through the chapters and uh i think we all know the conclusion.
For your final words? well it's not going to be
the easiest game for them but they do have potential with shadow fiend and the
beastmaster just a snowball up hopefully boxy hit some great holes if they can
start the fights on enigma and the shadow fiend king
win his lane i think that's our best chance seems like uh team liquid has got quite
the job to do here in this third game of this best five grand finals gaming gladiators can they win this take the
title here of champions at riyadh masters this is the sixth grand Finals they play against Team Liquid,
and at the moment it might just look like
it's the same result as the previous five times.
This one maybe even feeling a little bit more
dominant than the rest. Let's
find out what's going to happen in this third game
of this best-of-five together with Cap and SVG.
That's right, it may be the worst position that Liquid has ever been in their history.
Their long history against Game of Gladiators but Avery...
The night is darkest what's just around the corner?
Uhhh...
More cursedness?
Heh! The dawn, the light the dog,
but like surely
the light is just
around the corner.
You know,
maybe this is
this is the start
of something beautiful.
I mean it would be
a beautiful story if they managed
reverse sweeps. Reverse sweeps come to you
and far between them, don't they?
When you go to me
the panel had
their discussions.
We saw which you know, the panel had their discussions. We heard the words of the panelists.
We saw which way they were leaning.
We saw how they felt about the situation.
I heard what you had to say about it.
When you look into me
to bring the hope in this situation?
I feel
like we've gone off the rails somewhere.
I don't know if that's what
my brand is known for,
but I assume it's not.
But is there hope here? Is there a way back
from the bottom of this pit
of despair that Liquid find themselves
in? Let me tell you something. Let me
tell you a little story that i think a lot of
people can relate to
austin mm-hmm i think every dota player
has been
in that pit of darkness oh yeah everyone
they have been at the bottom
many of these players have gone through the ups and downs and they have been at the bottom. Many of these players have gone through
the ups and downs,
they've been at the down
and know how bad that feeling is
And they all have gotten through it
to get back to this moment
That's proof if you're a Liquid right now to get back to this moment. And that is proof
if you're a Liquid
right now
that you can
reverse sweep
the series
because there
is always
a way back
and there's
always a way
back to the top
and nobody
is ever out until you retire.
And even then,
you can come back and do it eight more times like Seb.
It's true.
Dota can always pull you back in.
It's just a question of whether you're able to push back,
and I want to see the pushback right now
from Liquid because I think
I and everybody else watching this series who has watched
all the other series between these two teams combined
over the last two years,
well, it would make things a bit more interesting. It would make it a bit more spicy and
it would surely be a twist
on a tale that has become as old as this one.
Yeah, it certainly has. It doesn't seem to matter what the patch is,
what the draft is something about gaming gladiators has just been a stonewall to Team Liquid.
But different draft in this game three,
they get some very important heroes for them right?
They get the Tiny which has done really good work
for them throughout this tournament.
This matchup in particular, the Tiny versus Sand King was something that got them into
this upper bracket position in the upper bracket finals against Game of Gladiators, a pre-season.
They played that tiny game against Sand King couple times around and got them some good
wins.
They've got their Beastmaster for 33.
Always seem to rely on that one.
And then some twists.
We got Rubik Clockwork, wasn't expecting
to be seeing the clockwork. Where did he come from?
I feel like it's just Boxy
trying to find something that he can build
some morale for on the team via initiator,
via playmaker. This is a hero that he's won many matches
on before and it could be a nice interruption tool here.
A nice, easy source of initiation
that they've lacked in some
of the previous team fights.
They were having trouble finding it.
Yeah, and it's difficult
when you're kind of like,
okay, Nisha,
you got to start every fight
and go in
and then he's just
immediately in the middle of all this garbage and can't get back out i don't think they want
that type of situation for the tiny so they get another very consistent initiator on
the support role particularly if he's going to be losing
another lane against Quinn, who
seems to just have Nisha's number in this
matchup.
Quinn has gotten the better of him, but to be fair I think
Quinn has also gotten a number of cheese picks against nisha
yeah that was not fun was certainly not a fun matchup i think this mid lane should go a lot more
even and i do like tiny versus sand king think it is, you're on the better
end of this exchange if you have
the Tiny. At least by personal
preference. I mean, this is a very close matchup
and they do different things. So it's not
an end-all be-all but in theory Tiny does a lot of burst
damage can build a lot of hybrid damage
and can cut through Sanking on that front line
Can also displace him out of some of the
sandstorms like that so
I think Liquid, I mean if you can't win with you know the shadow fiend tiny beast
that i feel like have been three of your best cores the entire event you're just getting outplayed
yep and that has been part of the matchup
Of Game of Gladiators versus Liquid
Nisha
Oh, is he going to die in this matchup?
Not quite
The bottle will help keep him alive
But Quinn is destroying him in CS now
And he gets the range tonight yeah i mean
15-8 compared to five and three he's tripling up on it
a very rough start for the tiny action that was
yeah yeah nisha destroyed this matchup
against other mid laners
but win is something different
when it comes to mid lane.
At least they get first blood eventually
on that Weaver top
and took a couple tries.
I feel like the sideelines for liquid have been going better in this game two
and three they've definitely stepped it up this is
also gonna be a support swap something worth mentioning here does
usually make your landing a little weaker but it makes the
player stronger on the heroes quinn gets caught on a barrel strike yeah nice he's tossed back there
and the tree is not going to be enough damage, but puts him super
low. He's going to be there for the Water Rune
for a bit of recovery.
Tofu going to make a rotation through the gate
very early.
Looking to punish 33 up far in the lane.
Pulling back into the Shiguchi, get
the Bucks on him and they have so much physical
damage between this trio.
Even got the four.
Plus 28 here. Big swing for Dorachio
puts his CK in a much better position
Still Mikkei leading the pack
which is exactly what you want for this safe lane
Shadowfiend we saw Liquid do a lot of work with this year earlier
cannot nurse me how strong it is he has some buffs to play behind him not as much as he had in that
game but still beastmaster mountain mount and're going to get another one on Ace.
So extra build up for the S-Up here.
Take advantage of the Weaver being bottom.
Telekinesis throw back into the Eidolons trying to stall out some of
the damage garaggio a bit low on mana so may not be able
to have another kill attempt for him for a little while
meanwhile nisha low health quinn
man look at that that stinger just does so much damage to a no armor tiny i think if quinn had
lost all that hp on the tower this lane might have been completely one-sided.
At least Nisha's getting something here but it is still...
It still IS one sided! He's still doubling them up in CS.
This is not how Liquid wanted this lane to go and it's gonna have to be made up for here in the two side lanes now
this sf is pulling ahead by a decent amount refarming the lane there's not a lot you can do
to go on mickay here as long as Boxley's protecting him. You can maybe try
and all-in him with a swarm
and a support rotation,
and we are seeing the Enigma
go through the gate.
So Gaiman are going to try
and push in with this catapult
get the big SF kill
or at least threaten it.
We can shell the Weaver and push him in here.
It's going to be up to Boxy
to keep these two, Ace
and Tofu from overwhelming
Mikke when the play comes.
The Cox goes out. Batter is all pushed back in.
Not too bad they get a kill before
the Enigma even shows up still though
the Enigma is here with the Eidolons and Duraccio
Now the TP's coming in for the Rubick
Can he stop this? Tellkenisa throw back, good stun!
One Raze goes off a second brings a Hero low
that's gonna be Celery going down
and DeraaGio limping across the jungle
almost nine to the tower there
Cogs actually managed to nab Ace with a battery assault out.
Darachy's trying to help but he cannot do anything to get Ace out of that sticky situation.
Liquid manages to stop the aggression of Game and Gliators and turn it back on.
Big swing in this early game, a lot of experience for the supports
The Beastmaster gets the free farm bottom uncontested
And you shut down some of that Weaver who
Toflus just found nothing on this lane really it takes
four heroes to bring down that sf cost to watch you a lot of time he thought about it
so this s Oh, he thought about it. He's not. He baited him a little bit.
So this ASTF is going to be the wisdom rune on Boxy.
And he's not gonna make it in time so far away. Already level five on his clock.
Yeah, if you got wisdom runesed man they went liquid to be actually so far up in the experience of uh
their support please run up the ramp and he still tries for it.
Cogs doesn't pull him in.
That's a level three battery,
but it just been instant death race.
Yeah.
So Boxy making his clockwork work.
Looking pretty good so far.
So that's a lot of regen to play with on the map here with full stick Lotus.
Yeah, and with boots coming in
he is going to be a menace
and they need a menace right now
not just because of the fact
they're down 0-2,
but also because this mid lane...
There's going to be a Sand King that is extremely farmed.
It's not quite as farmed as the SF,
but Quinn did his job.
Certainly did.
I feel like
there's not really a time you say
Quinn didn't do his job
when it comes to the first 10 minutes of the game against kind
of no matter who he's landing
yeah it is nice when your mid laner wins me every time not that much
eight minute room was bottom it's illusion not the biggest deal
i mean three sources right now
that's what's winning this mid lane this tiny is gonna have to go to base again here, second time before 10 minute mark
Just costing Nisha a lot of time and they're going to scout this huge set of stacks
Oh! Barrel strike!, barely off the mark there.
This is not a stack you can afford to give up on this game for Liquid.
I don't think gaming has the best means of taking it.
Yeah, Beastmaster's going to cut over.
CB, if he can get any of these last hits nisha
he's gonna run at him throws a nice toss avalanche with the
axes to be able to cut down b and igma and dorachu was already at half
i just caught him in that river boxey hit it with the cogs, knocks
up off the clip and now the battery assault is on top
of them. Toss to finish him off and get the kill
on Quinn. Liquid put the numbers together
in the river and
Gaming Gladiators underestimating the power
of this tiny.
Things starting to come together
here, and it feels very solid.
These heroes are going to scale well for Liquid
and play well together with the beess buffing them all up.
Nisha, he just got
exactly what he needed in
this game. An injection of gold,
some big 4 kills
and man, when that toss starts to add up
it feels good here. Liquid can continue to play around it
Almost got him with the Blood Grenade but not quite. Boxy almost bursted by the Seer
Stolen Burrow Strike though will halt Quinn. He's running after him with the Bugs on him
but a hook shot, a toss!
Oh look, got some of that damage.
Meanwhile Misha he still got the Bug on him as well
and the Burrow Strike gonna punch to the backside.
Ace is able to finish him off
but Quinn is in deep
He managed to hit
The stinger
Got another kill
Now on the run
Celery trying
To cover him
Mickey
Black hole
On two
33
Misses
The axis
Quinn comes back
In with the stinger
And kills them both, and stays
alive. Beautiful stuff from
the Sand King M33 caught
from behind by Duraccio
Quinn lives through it all
breaking the ankles of Liquid.
I mean, CC and see you later here.
Quinn just dancing over Liquid.
This man is absolutely
putting on an early game clinic dragging Damon Damon through a landing phase that looked like it was going to go liquid's way.
Just every single move in this fight is on point. Sometimes those illusion run illusions make a difference
just got off so many stingers here the power phase boots on this hero from mid
just as he was going well for liquid quinn breaks that lead in half
and you have to worry about how strong the sand can get because he's backed up by a lot of team
fight this dark seer is gonna turn him into a a beast he gets the front line items on top of
the blink dagger here you know every one of these barrel strike stingers can be
on multiple heroes if you plump up and get back
that could have been such a nice end to the laning phase
for Liquid if they collected Quinn there
instead it's just a disaster
pushes all of them back down the board
and pushes all of the game
Gladiator cores up catching them to Nikkei
who has had a free game for himself
for the most part after that
first move from gaming gladiators
failed.
Try again but Foxy there for the interception.
Will this be enough though? Trying to get out the Requiem vacuum goes off
he just cannot seem to get it up and Celery won't die either!
Outnumbered an outgunned again Liquid
just finding themselves in the back with
all these little skirmishes as Gaiman bring
numbers, and Ace I mean he's just smiling
all the way to the bank cause Mek bailed out his
five got him a double kill uses
cogs against them straight into a tower last hit all of a sudden you blink
and you miss it this dark seer is the most farm hero in the game after getting killed
by that shadow fiend during the laning phase.
33 doesn't get there in time.
This is the type of game setup
where you can look at the draft all you want,
you can talk about how the laning phase was going okay
but these little gameplay maneuvers are what
is winning this series right now. Yes.
It's simply
put Game of Gladiators
they kind of do what Liquid does
just better. Yeah, they're just faster.
Give them a different draft, it doesn't change the things
that Game of Gladiators...
Inside the game, they're just faster than Liquid
and it seems to catch Liquid
off guard too many times. But they have slow elements in the lineup middle
five can be slow we can have a rough lane phase this weaver had a really slow start and topu was
behind but they make them necessary moves they find the opening
they bring the numbers and they make sure they help each other
find games here and once more liquid on a significant
back foot suddenly down 5k network it happens so fast two two and a half minutes
sania moving around with uh the shikuchi
all right you're're going to have
some good Rubick plays this game. There are a lot of
good spells to steal. Darkslayer spells are great.
Shikuchi can set all that up.
Sansel swells are magnificent
and of course the black hole would be
the ultimate steal here
a smoke up from gaming gladiators
and they have a blink dagger on Quinn so
looking to connect these pieces
somewhere on the map.
They have a lot of firepower right now.
Armlet Chaos Knight easily joins a fight.
Drum Enigma, pretty pretty strong always the threat with
the black hole you have the mech darks here can back all of it together
and of course the blink sanking can bring that fight to you with strong
initiation power gaming are not lacking anything just a matter of where they want to strike going for the epicenter
kill perhaps waiting for tofu to set it up with just a little bit of slow would have gone a long
ways and sania sees a push coming his way.
What does Liquid do with this bit of information
knowing all these heroes
are going to come in
and they just give up
the tower?
Looks like that's the case.
Tough tower
to give up, man.
But do they really have a choice
in the matter? It's going to be a lot
of space to operate around.
9-9, 5,000
net worth lead and it's 14 minute wisdom rune time 14 minutes.
And there we go. We're back into it. 9-9
14 minutes with some room picked up
So Liquid
do not give up that big game
Gladiators were trying to get a little aggressive
then they thought better of it backed up farms five different parts of the map you
can see them all spread over the map trying to just efficiently get to their next round of items
quick we're gonna group bottom off the smoke,
try and use this Akuchi to start a good team fight.
Got the roar on him,
so they'll get the pickoff
and 33 has his
Aghanim Scepter. It's still Radiant-side Roshan.
Are they...
I don't think they can do Roshan right now,
which then puts it onto the Dire side,
which may make things awkward for Liquid.
Part of this Beastmaster, right?
He's securing that early Roshan in the first place
because Liquid really needs this.
You can gate here though after this tier one.
I'm curious if Gaming are going
to try and read this And just set up
Yeah, I was about to say
Game of Gladiators is already set up on that side of the map
So you are
Stumbling into something bad here
Good rocket from Boxy
You do want to do this Roach though don't want to just sit on your side of the map with
these beastmaster eggs and let game inform up here especially with the lead they have
on these supports still the point in
the game where
the Sakuchi Rubik's
very strong as well
got him on the
barrel strike
still has Sakuchi
trying to get away
outside of the
vision and
will be able
to nab him
and the Rubik goes down,
now they put damage onto the Tier 2.
Meanwhile, Nisha's trying to push in mid.
Game of Gladiators sticking around, yeah
They're just gonna commit to taking this tier two.
That's going to make things even harder for Liquid when it comes to taking a Dire Sign Roshan!
They're gonna have no objectives on this side of the map outside of the outposts.
Their moves have been really good in this game. All to the right areas of the outpost their moves have been really good this game all to the right areas of
the map that moved the gate moose top got that tier one the move mid backstabbed that tower ended
up securing it now just move to talk get a little rubik kill take this tier two and deny the Roshan
during this Beastmaster Aghs period.
DodgerTheCog covering the power room!
Two minutes to get that haste through but it'll cost Poxy his life
It looks like he's underneath the Sandstorm with Tofu on the other side
and get the kill. Now the chase.
Dorachio closing in has to blink away
on Misha he does manage to get out
Flick dagger is done for the Beastmaster as well
so double initiation tools for Liquid,
but is that going
to be able
to surmount
the 5,000 network lead
the gaming gladiators
have built up
with the aural items
being achieved?
Got the pipe mech
done for Ace.
The team is still very even here.
There's still some strong teamfight on
the side of Liquid if you can put it together.
Your Tiny, his recovery has been slow
and he's behind but this crash landing can still do some massive work
even if you're missing one or two k especially you can find a support at the start just get that free
pick off make it into a five on four particularly before the sand king
starts to tank up he's also susceptible and haste run on nisha should open up some moves they're
stealing him he's the aura guy he's going gonna be able to get off the pipe mech.
Not the fastest kill, might still be able to run him down the tree...
It is enough, ever so barely they do manage to get it.
Hookshot back in, D'Arcio was trying to still force this one!
Requiem goes out, that'll put him under fear.
Unable to put some damage on a box he tries
to slip away through the cogs.
Tofu's able to finish him off while
D'Arachio gets the armor toggle to stay alive.
They don't want to walk into a black hole epicenter so liquid
are forced to give up on the chase at least initially four canceled after center blink
there from quinn super heads-up play by 33.
Or Gaiman would have committed to that fight with the Sand King
strength.
Then we'll have to settle for losing their
offlaner here, narrowly escaping
with the Chaos Knight.
I felt like Liquid would have wanted
a little more out of that, considering how good
the start was at a hasted Tiny.
But they'll take it.
Their Boars are still farming
very well
they now
you know
Blink Aghs Beastmaster
to start fights
Blink Tiny
to start fights
Clockwork
to start fights
Koochie Rubick
who can start fights
everybody on this lineup
can pick a target
and make it easy for the rest of the team.
It's a very nice element to have here, but you have to pick that target well.
Ideally you burst that Dark Seer, take the ores out, you're super happy.
You find Enigma...
Might make it easier for Shadow Fiend to commit in.
Gaming are continuing to defend this upper part of the map.
He doesn't know and he throws out the Axes, they ping where he's at. Topu spawns up- nope!
That blink was crucial. Otherwise
Dorachio might have been able to catch up to him.
And now Duraccio
gets him in his clutches
with the Arcade
to pick off there
and now Foxy...
Yeah,
he's going to be pulled in
by another Reality Rift
Telekinesis
tries to save him
The Vessel's taken him,
Duraccio diving into tier threes
as Shukuchi is along the way.
Duraccio is crazy for this one.
He's already half HP underneath tier three
but Liquid are nowhere to be found right now and Sania gets a good steal on the Burrow Strike.
Lost after Tier 3 at 19 minutes again!
Vicious refusing to come back!
These are the little mistakes that cost you so much against this team, they play for
the win, they play for blood.
You cannot show signs of weakness here giving up these little kills in odd areas
on the map and they're going to go back liquid a lot
they're gonna take rose you can't lose roche's game if your liquid well that's what's about
to feel like a 14-minute beast tags when you couldn't even contest this?
Nope.
That is brutal.
A lot of different physical damage minus armor to make
this pretty easy for them.
At least your cores are still on even footing, it's better
than the previous games but this is an objective that it should have gone your way
or at least you would've wanted to do.
It was part of the game plan
but seems like the game plan has changed
with Liquid not TPing back to to that Tier 3. It really
looked to me like they just made the call that they're
staying out of the map and farming no matter
what.
And maybe that's because the next round
up items are particularly crucial?
They want the BKBs.
Trying to get the BKBs, but those were still a ways away!
You got the Manta done for Micke and the Echo Saber complete for Nisha. He'll break that apart at some point
for DKB, of course, but
it's going to be a bit.
In Game of Gladiators
they have four minutes
in some change with an Aegis and a Blink Dagger on Dorachio
for full aggression.
If you can get the BKBs up on your cores
and just end up in a fight where you stand your ground,
that's when this lineup comes together the most.
You have some decent chain-studding potential
if you have the Inner Beast aura
for these right clickers
If you get multiple tosses off,
you can keep the Tiny alive that
So Liquid are going to look for it here, but you're probably going to have to wear out this Aegis
duration and just look
for a much later timing now.
It sounds like you're saying to me
your Liquid don't lose the game in the next five minutes?
Yeah, or don't lose a fight or get huge
pickoffs right which has been a struggle and it's another cross map smoke gaming are showing heroes
bottom and looking for somebody in the triangle has decent chance of working here 33 yeah flick burrow nisha can try and cover
him with an avalanche but 33 stock he knows it too almost caught the tiny on the tail end
early vessel for
the Weaver, dealing with this Beastmaster heal.
Heal's already up for
Tofu as well. He's completely recovered in his game.
Very tanky, very
annoying on this front line.
Gotta keep split pushing.
And it's another big core pickoff that...
Again you're just bleeding heroes on the map from the story all series and every time
you give up one of these kills game and turn it into objectives turn it into a bigger lead
it would have been fine if there was some support, but it's the core BKBs that Liquid are trying to build too.
So any core death a game of Gladiators gets out of this is worth its weight in gold.
Insania sees the movement coming
They're just trying to catch everything
Once more Liquid corraled
to one part of the map
It's not where their vision is
I feel like they have to smoke
to get something else out.
They have one observer
on the clock.
Yeah,
they showed some heroes
up at top
so they think
that they could do
something in this
mid area.
I mean,
they're correct.
This Sand King Weaver
cannot get to this fight.
They are going to be fighting into an Aegis,
but if they clump like this when they get the hook shot onto the Dark Seer,
first target Orkin already going off Primal War,
trying to follow it up in this aura damage dealer.
Misha goes for the toss together.
App lands, but they don't have
the follow-up damage to kill these guys and now Mikke gets grabbed by the Realidria Phantasm
Chaos Knife trying to get him away trying to get up a Requiem vacuum interrupts that one
A second glimmer disappearing into the night,
but now he's been revealed!
Now he's caught by the Burrow Strike!
Nietzsche couldn't get him out,
tried to go for the toss...
Now he's dead as well!
Boxy is caught in it!
Duraccio blinks forward looking
for more good steal from Insignia
with a Burrow Strike selling stalling off Duraccio.
Otherwise 33 might have been the third core killed in this
and Game of Gladiators are hitting high ground once again
though they are chasing after 33 who had the bug on his hawks and they know where he's at relentless boxy
had a choice there i don't know if you saw the enigma of the last second but your hook shot
in enigma or darks here and he took the darks here instant orchid from dorachio completely
bails out that initiation and then glimmer cape on the enigma there's just no way to take
that darkster down at the start of a fight like that. Liquid did not have their BKBs
to commit.
And Gaiman able to survive long enough with
the heals, the other two heals can come in
once more a misstep by Liquid
leads to objective taking
by Gaiman as they take a Rax at 23 and 1 half in this game.
The troubles do not stop for Liquid,
the nightmare only continues here. here
this day just keeping his bottom he's gotta hit some creeps
away from that bkB. Seals are just
tanking up the team gold
is what's winning game in these games
time and time again, there's no easy
targets for Liquid to jump
this is a 5 enigma just showing
if you're not willing
to jump this,
like what are we doing here?
They're afraid
to jump him.
Oh man.
They are truly
mind screwed
at this point in time.
They can't go for it, and by the time they go for it
yeah, it is a trap now!
Vacuum Cogs will keep them out of the way
for a little bit.
Try to hit the reality rifts, Misha gets the blink backwards before he's caught
but it's his second tier three down.
Glyph will hold it for awhile longer
10 seconds left on the Aegis.
Garaccio is just going to get in.
I mean, you have to call like it is, right?
I feel as though Game and Have
just completely broken Liquid.
Across these five games, they have broken their drafts,
broken their lanes, broken their gameplay
and now
it seems like they've broken their mentality as well.
There's just nothing
left, hesitation, misplays,
pickoffs on the map, nowhere near
clean enough to combat what Gaming are doing right now
as they're firing on all cylinders, this is
absolutely one of the best teams in the world when they are
hitting their peak form, and they have come
into stride at the right time
in the right place
in the right meta. That's right.
They found their meta. They are playing it to perfection and they are forcing errors out of every team
they've run across for clean games.
They could be looking at one loss in the playoffs for a full championship.
Very dominant run.
Extremely, 19 to 11, 16,000 net worth lead,
a lane of barracks, Two lanes of barracks.
All that's left
is a tier 2
tier 3
second Roshan perhaps
and by the time Liquid second roshan perhaps
and by the time liquid gets these bkbs you have to wonder if the network deficit is going to be too much for them to be able to smell with just debuff immunity at least you're preventing a lot of the damage
coming out from some of these spell casters but there are still things like black hole to worry
about dorachio going in maybe you get a wall up at the start.
A lot of sustain on this game and lineup.
And of course you don't have a blink SF here
it's not like good instant follow-up with Requiem
on some Roar.
It's just all about the tiny fine toss backs or win the fight off the damage
start you're looking for a solo play this is ambitious yeah but i mean with no work
that toku is going to come in with a save.
Got the backup.
So Jirachi knows all he has to do is just make sure that 33 can't retreat
and the rest of his team will follow it up
And they're going to try and go for the epicenter burst on Nikkei at
the same time. Boxy can he do anything to stop this when
he's trying with a battery salt tries to pull him away from Nikkei that cogs may
have just done it with the glimmer cape from Insania, they
do manage to keep their carry alive.
I mean, Celery could have just blink black hold there.
He didn't want to get hookshot.
Maybe not give it to Rubick.
There's Durantio! The ever aggressive carry! there's
Durantio
the ever
aggressive
carry
and when
he is on
point it
looks so
good
he has
decimated
liquid across these five games. Like the group performance, especially his Chaos Knight. Absolutely one of the best in the world.
The first of three has been achieved they don't want to wait for backdoor
they know what is ahead of them right now on this last lane racks from sean potential spawn time it's coming
in game gladiators listen neva was gonna have bkb before he has some of these liquid heroes yeah i don't think 33
is getting gold in the last three or four minutes here sf is honestly still
600 off his...
No, he should have it.
Never mind. He will have it in 100. So you will
have the SS.
Doesn't prevent him getting black hold and you do have the tinies he sure was
debating to be give me or the eggs and opted for the BKB so all it's left is a
beast masters here which is the farthest away but they're giving him farm priority liquid just
trying to get triple bkb up here take the next fight and see what happens could be
the last one here of their tournament lives and they're definitely all in
and if they were to get this fast enough they might even be able
to get out on the map that and contest Roshan.
Thank you Gladiators, it's up for the taking.
It was a very early Roshan spawn.
Aghs on Weaver! Oh!
There is just so much to get through here.
And you don't have enough firepower to do it like that.
You commit on somebody they get we rags
after the fight over probably.
Yeah, it's you primal roar
somebody and it's...
And by the way
this bottle on Quinn right now
holds a shield rune
which could also just be huge
in this next fight
considering how tanky
he is on the front line
Crimson Guard completed for the Dark Seer.
Shiva's Bloodstone and his Shield Rune
if he's the target?
Ah, you don't see how he dies.
Toku gets a little information,
knows that Liquid is outside of the map.
They also have a big wave pushing in mid.
Nisha he's gonna try for it, Quinn starts the initiation
Trying to make himself the target activating the cheats
and Nisha gets the toss in to the Requiem
trying to combo onto Ace! They go for the Primal
Roar! So many Ultimates being used
to try and kill him, but there's the time lapse!
They saved Ace! Now they've got the Black Hole
on the SF, and they are going to demolish Liquid. Triple BKB does nothing for you when you are flat out, outgunned, outplayed.
Four dead.
GG is called the cleanest series of your life game
and Gladiators take it 3-0 away from Liquid.
There's not much left to say about this
series between these two teams, we have seen
it before, we see it again here but
this felt maybe one of the more
one-sided of all of these matchups
in their long history. Just absolute
decimation, clinical
outplays across all three games from
everybody on gaming stepping up
going back to the brood game on
Dorachio to this game with Quinn on that Sand King
mid. He just snapped
Liquid's path with those plays
around the ruins with the Stinger
and the Phase Boots. And Liquid
are left once more wondering how they can
overcome the ultimate nightmare
of a team, the ultimate nightmare
they find themselves in. Their glory
will once more be denied from
this squad as Gaming claim another huge title, maybe
the biggest of this team's
lifetime as they were denied a TI
but they find an esports
World Cup championship. That's right
They're working with their own curse so many times a team that dominates
the regular season ends up failing when it comes to the finish line and does not do well
at the finals at the end of the year.
Game of Gladiators had that happen
to them last year, and while
the regular season definitely was
not great for them
they showed up at the right time in
the year. Let's go around look at the right time of the year. Let's go around and look
at the most dominant form, maybe more
dominant than they did the entirety of last
year. Just this tournament alone
one of the cleanest you've ever seen.
They have had their struggles but as you said Dota is about figuring out what to do in the moment adapting finding your strengths remembering
what made you a good team as you were and they have definitely remembered it here
and re-found a lot of their strength
quinn he'll take that key looks like he took that mid lane away
from liquid they will approach the trophy like he took that mid lane away from Liquid.
They will approach the trophy
that they worked so hard for last year,
but this year is the year of gaming gladiators
The absolute kings of the early game an extremely dominant tournament throughout
and there you have it give it up for your champions, Gaming Gladiators! so so so so That's what we need! That's what we need!
That's what we need!
Rion Masters 2024 Champion,
Jameon Gladiator!
Play it to my fans. I've heard you remark yourself as more of a hard worker than the natural talent.
And I can tell that you've been putting in the hours these past few months, trying to return to the glory that was that 2023 run.
Do you think that this moment is a representation of all the effort you've been putting in?
I'm seeing you go up against these Huskars,
these tinies,
these sand kings and not breaking a sweat at all.
Yeah,
I think hard work does pay off
and we put a lot of time into boot camp
and to this tournament at the time before that
going from being really bad to
being good again. So I'm just glad
that we were able to make that rise again
And it is proof positive with
this event. Tofu I spoke with you just a couple of days ago
where you were telling me about the trials and tribulations
of maintaining consistency both within in-game and out of game, you feel like this is now
reflecting that the effort was worth it. And everything that you had gone through
the difficulties are making up for the rewards.
We had a lot of difficulties before and I feel like we've been trying
for weeks and months honestly,
especially this last stretch
where you're putting so much time, effort
and passion into this whole project.
And I'm just super proud that it paid off
and we could show what we're actually capable of
. And what you're capable
of is championships
and for Dorachio specifically, not just a championship but a 3-0!
One that you have claimed multiple times in the past.
I remember during Kuala Lumpur
You thought it was going gonna be a 3-0
and yet you were not shaken.
Once again, you show up here
and you're like, it's going to be a 3-0.
Are you just saying it or do you actually have a read?
I mean they asked me to say it but to be honest like
expect us to play well against Liquid because we have really nice matchup,
we also show it like yesterday we kind of smacked them so today it happens again
which brings me to Celery!
What is it about Liquid?
Is it them or was this just your tournament?
It didn't matter who was going to show up in
Grand Finals, you knew you had their number.
It didn't matter. We were ready.
It's just that easy!
I had a dream like a week ago we
were gonna win so dreams come true sometimes.
And the dream has
come true, Ace!
Any closing thoughts for all
of the Game and Gladiators fans who
have been waiting for your rise and your return to prominence
and have been patiently rewarded.
Yeah, like there were some games
that was a lot of other crowd cheering for other teams
but we could always hear some gaming fans out there so i
wanted to thank you all for that you guys are the best and it seems to me
that the cannon fans are here in full effect for one last time please a round of applause for your
champions and there is one more order of business, Salary.
This trophy that you're holding and the key that you have put into it
You've been walking by the Totem every single morning
And its time to immortalize you in esports World Cup history
So shall we? Join me as we make our way over.
An absolute dominating run here in the upper bracket from Gaming Gladiators.
They are your React Masters 2024 champions, and I think as we saw
their writing on the wall.
These guys are just too good, they're just better
They have...they're the ones that are setting the meta of the tournament
like what to do with the auras
And every time a team played them it just felt like
every single time that enemy team
they're just a step behind. They can't match up in pace
they can't match how fast you can move around
what items you can do but
all these small things with the team fighting that to me is what really sets
this team apart. They do all these things that other teams
don't, that just allows them to win
Yeah and I think
when there is a patch
where the auras are strong, this is when Gaming
Ladders is always at the top.
No team knows how to play these...
I'm not going to say death ball but these high tempo
fast early game type of strategies
better than them. Like no team can even go to 40
minutes against this team, it's impossible
they just beat you before that and
I think especially for this tournament
it's a bit of a blessing in disguise that earlier
they didn't do so well. They just came out of this patch swinging,
but there's pretty much no data on them or like how good
they are right now and no team has
any time to figure it out and Quinn
he gets demortalized gaming gladiators
here. I'll just say,
I feel like this tournament,
especially the lower bracket was characterized by teams making
uncharacteristic mistakes and the one team that I can confidently
say never did that the entire tournament or at least
the playoffs was gaming gladiators like there's a lot of pressure,
there's a lot stakes. Dota is a mental game how many times have you guys at home
or us even just played bad in a pub
Or in a tournament match because we're nervous,
Because we're having a bad day?
How do you have a team like that
That just never has a bad day?
They're having such confidence about the meta
About their strategy About and identity as a team.
We talked about their dynamic as a unit when we interviewed Dorachio
He just said that they've been together for so long
and understand each other so well
he seems happy with the rest of them
they are all smiley in a game that causes
so much stress when we are thinking about these moments
that could be and mean so much at each pivotal time
A teammate makes a mistake, you have to lift them up. Sorry, Brian.
I just realized what they're doing.
Oh, are they choosing their three keys?
They have things to choose!
It has...
Okay.
It has to be Liquid, right?
We've got to, for one more time
for the road.
Liquid, Falcons, Bibbidi-Bobbidi.
Yeah, I was going to say Quinn promisedcons, Bibbidi-Bobbidi... Yeah I was going to say Quinn promised
me a Bibbidi-Bobbidi team and
he did it all. He promised it.
How much does Quinn have
to say here? It's Falcons actually
for sure liquid just I don't know why maybe liquid keys is
because obviously their key was still alive until just you know maybe 10 minutes ago so
maybe he's not there yet because oh that's true but i would imagine you know what how arrogant would it be to just
not put liquid because you know they get them anyway the only team they dropped a game two in
the upper bracket was falcons yeah well you have to put falcons you have to put Falcons, you have
to put Falcons I feel like...
They made their choices.
Are we gonna be able to tell?
We're going to be,
we are going to get some words in just a second so
we're going to find out the rest of the keys will all be dropped
under the totem they will all be encased and resin as you've heard
multiple times throughout this real masters this totem will be immortalized on the boulevard
and um next year around there's just another
totem and this totem will forever feature gaming gladiators as
the champion here of dota 2. do we see any days i couldn't read fast enough
quinn hold them in the camera please don't drop them but it's uh oh He thought about it. He hears you.
Well he might actually hear me. This is a good point.
Probably not. We're on the big stage.
I'm waiting for that grand reveal.
Yeah we are going to get that grand reveal with Tsunami.
Quip? with Tsunami. Quinn, you have
gathered up three keys. You mind
sharing with me your choices?
Yes, we selected
Liquid, Falcons and Spirit.
Okay! Pretty reasonable options. Let's take a look at Spirit.
Team Spirit pretty understandable last year's champions TI two-time winners
anything beyond that or just their legacy?
I mean, they crushed our dreams last year so we get to crush a piece of metal
The revenge for Seattle! I love to see it
How about your second choice, Falcons?
They beat everybody all year so you got
to put them in there out of respect.
And maybe someone trying to take away
from your legacy of last year. 2023 most dominant team, 2024 you got
to win Riyadh Masters maybe and
your last one Team Liquid I feel like
i don't even need to ask about this
one but just for the people why'd
you choose Team Liquid?
To be honest it's just kind of funny.
That's the main reason.
The man is doing it for the memes
but you are all business when it comes
to the game and in regards that i would like
to congratulate you as not only are you the champions of real masters you are the playstation
mvp for this event that's exactly the reaction i was hoping for and as a result of that you also are
a winner of a fifty thousand dollar cash prize what on earth
i didn't even know that was a thing.
I thought it was just like a PlayStation,
that's pretty dope.
You can get many, many PlayStations with that!
But if we could reflect on the tournament as a whole
and your mid performance,
Like I said on stage
you've been working really hard for your entire career and your mid performance. Like I said on stage,
you've been working really hard for your entire career
as a professional player.
Were there any moments
during this past year
where you felt like
the glory that you had achieved
in all of 2023
would be difficult or possibly even impossible to return to,
or did you have faith
that a moment like this would happen?
I mean,
I don't think I ever lost faith
that it was possible for us to win.
We were, we had sort of a rough year in terms of if you compare it I don't think I ever lost faith that it was possible for us to win.
We had a rough year compared to our prior year,
but I believe in everyone on the team and
we just have to figure stuff out.
There's always problems and fixing problems
and it took awhile for us to fix those problems.
And as for the mid lane in general during this competition,
how have you felt?
Were you pushed to the limit?
Are we returning to peak Quinn?
Or is peak Quinn going to show up maybe even in Copenhagen.
I think I've always got room to go, you know there were some games
that ruined as there's that Ember game against Falcons it was not pretty so
You know always always room to go up.
Well we can't wait to see the path Quinn.
Congratulations on a stellar performance
and I'll let you enjoy
the moment with your team.
A well here well deserved the well-deserved mvp i
think especially
that game three we witnessed that
midlane fear
oh nisha is not going
to be happy with
that one.
Yeah, I mean
we'll keep him up
for a few nights
for sure because
he has played
that matchup
multiple times
and he was the
one bullying
the Sand King
this is the first
time where
he just got
absolutely no other way so he got dumpstered by Quindad in a matchup This is the first time where he just got...
He got dumpster by Quinn in a matchup Where he should have felt confident winning.
It's also something that Brian was talking about before,
His confidence
You can see it in his gameplay
And here, Quinn told me a week ago I he's like I'm going to be the finals
doesn't matter what's gonna happen.
I'll be the finalist days ago.
He's telling me you know Sanking is supposed to dumpster tiny mid
every time he walks up
you stinker him, you stun him
he showed this year and this series. I didn't know this matchup
was supposed to work this way but when you know things others don't and you can play to your ability
then you get a team and player winning Gaming Gladiators. There's something about
this team where they have confidence but it doesn't feel like cockiness.
They are willing to acknowledge their own mistakes. It feels like they're holding each other accountable and themselves
accountable which is super important whenever things go south
And I think that's a part of why they were able to come back this year.
Like you said rally the troops really figure out our problems so much of Dota is just problem after
problem after problem new metas present new problems once you've figured it all out
And i think that process for them is what
is going to land them here consistently, whether there's
going to be down periods in their performances
but they'll always be one of the championship
teams as long as this is a roster that sticks together.
Yeah, I feel like we should just quickly touch upon the gum shall
be revealed we should reveal okay so quinn had something going where he would listen to music
before games to get himself in the zone.
People knew that, they saw him walking around with their headphones
He was like don't talk you know he's getting in the zone
Right but apparently that wore off so the new thing what Apes
Was telling him you should chew gum
So apparently him chewing gum,
opening his mouth all the time and looking like a
moron is what really gets him in the zone
and gets him all pumped up so if it makes
you win a tournament maybe I should start doing it.
He said that if it makes me look like a madman
it's all the more power to him because he feels like then people go up against them you know
it's only the best thing you don't know what's going on.
It's really a case of... But I will also say scientifically proven that your brain activity increases with gum chewing.
So maybe there's some science to it as well.
Man's a scientist. What can he do?
What can you do? What can you do?
What can you do gaming gladiators that mean team liquid couldn't do anything against gaming gladiators
I you know, I I
Kinda am sad that we didn't get a
really competitive game even if gaming
130
but i think it goes to show brian that
this team is just something else yeah
let's just consider the fact
that Team Liquid has been showing
their top three, top two teams
in the world consistently across
the last two years and yet
they look like a bunch of scrubs against game
in the finals for some reason. And that's
just a crazy part about Dota is you're only
as good as you are compared to your opponent
even if outside of this series
these teams are somewhat equal game and has their number.
It feels like a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point.
I don't know if it's more gain,
it's confidence or liquid just seems completely demoralized with no faith in
themselves.
Every time we watch them it gets a
little bit worse so maybe it's combination of both yeah i mean i
definitely think it is very common when a team will lose
against another team repetitively yeah it's in your head
and there's very hard to get rid of that
and I don't even know if you can. It's not as bad
as just you think you're going to lose at
some point because you're playing against them but the guys you're
playing against feels like they can't lose against you
so they're playing even better. So, it's like a double whammy
there where games get like this
where this matchup happens. It happens over
and over again. I don't know how you
combat that but it's going to be very hard
for Liquid to overcome this against Gaming Gliders.
But luckily for Gaming Gliders,
they have another potential championship team
that they just have their number on.
Yep, for sure.
As we get a big wave
to the high camera out there from Quinn.
I will also say, Game Gatherers they take home $1.5 million
which is an insane amount and yeah
they absolutely smashed Team Liquid both in the upper bracket finals and in
the grand finals just now but coming second is still very good and it also
still nets you 800 000 so it's not like you you know, they're bad.
They are just always second place.
I mean at least for this iteration
It is still a huge improvement
I did not see them getting 2nd place in this tournament
I will say that they have improved a lot and they have looked good.
It's just not against this team, like Fierce saying when you keep losing to the same players
The same team it's in your head. You need to win 50 small engagements
Against this team and they're just not capable. They need to win like 50 small engagements against this team,
and they're just not capable.
They need to improve, learn, talk about it, whatever it is.
I'm not sure what it is but they will have to improve
for example at TI if it happens again you better show a better game.
I definitely have a theory on these two teams.
These two teams when they're both doing...
They are either doing poorly or they're both doing well.
And I think it comes into the fast meta.
Whenever the fast metas around these teams
really shine, and Gaiman's just
the faster team, right? And Liquid seems
to be the second fastest team in
the metas that do really promote this type of
playstyle. So I don't really put a lot of blame on Liquid.
Gaiman are just better.
There's not much to follow up on, obviously.
No, it really is not!
I'm like, wow, that actually seems
like a very good closing statement.
We're not we're not closing just yet though as
I do also want to touch up some on us touch
on some of the other favorite teams
that we saw coming and going this
Riyadh Masters is the first well the two teams they come to mind
are of course the two other keys that team gaming gladiators just now chose to have in their trophy
because i think if you were to ask anyone at the start of Rearmasters who was going
to win this 2024 Rearmasters, it would be one of these four teams, Game and Liquid.
But the two that will probably be mentioned more often
is Jay's Falcons and Spirit.
Yeah, Falcons pulled their gaming impression from last year
win every tournament up until now
then get third through sixth or so in the final 2
So I'd have to say that we have,
I wonder what's going to happen with the patch and the meta between now
and TI is it going to remain the same?
If these teams have more time to figure it out,
will they be able to crack the code?
As you mentioned, Team Liquid was struggling
to do fear during that series.
All these teams though,
like there's a reason
they put those three in there.
That's quite the notch
to add to your belt
when you consider winning this tournament.
Yeah. Just put the other teams that have won championships while
you were watching now you're finally on top and you just throw them
in your trophy, you are the king now.
You are the king now.
I believe we just watched a fairly one-sided series but it still had some good plays to watch and I believe we still have some plays of the day that we would like to show you. It's not just last game we watched but i think there's going
to be a couple that are featured in there i think celery's black hole for example one
of them let's take a look at this one this is in game number two of this series yeah
this one was mine i I just really wanted to
highlight Quinn here sitting on the sideline
there. It looks like a good initiation. You end up killing
both supports there but Quinn blinks in with
the nice Requiem. Kills the Sand
King there as well. Duracho coming from the backline
as well with an ace,
one of those highlight again
this fight was completely over
for Gaiman but that one
Requiem just completely turned
the tide to this fire
and they end up chasing down
every single one
of those heroes afterwards
and getting their first swipe pretty much yeah and then there was another kiddie play
of the day because this one is yours yes thanks for the spoil she says uh it's gonna be a
pretty sick positioning from celery as he tucks himself within those trees.
Not very often do you see hype black holes from a support Enigma, let alone like so early in the game
He doesn't have a blink yet just impe impeccable positioning, foresight,
little bit of baiting coming out from game
and these are the type of plays I feel like happening
when we're...
The dynamic that we were talking about.
One team's feeling themselves,
the other team gets a little bit overeager.
Chase is after Celery just presence of mind on point
seals the deal of the entire tournament
and it was also very important timing because that happened right
after a fight where we thought if anything is gonna turn
this series it would have been the fight that happened just before that but then celery's
like now no but that's also the problem like against these teams that are the best at what
you need to do everything right. You make one small mistake,
Quinn had some illusion rune, he
dodges the toss damage, they keep chasing
sometimes and suddenly you're on a high ground
their salary... Oh well I guess we lost
anyway. During the entire Riot Masters anyway during the entire real masters and during
the entire esports world cup there's also been
uh player bounties happening at fort dota 2
we had the escape player bounty.
And for this escape player bounty,
we go to a series that happened yesterday
to Omar where he was playing Rubick up against Team Falcons because we would be happy to remember this moment
we're about to watch the clip i mean spoiler omar let's have a look so
cause i remembered a different one here.
My friend has Blink Force, so...
Yeah, use it both!
...quick on the fingers.
He is going to go whoop the wrong way.
Okay nice he drops it.
Nice dodging this man's the matrix he's got the fancy footwork
yeah and the six tp out keeping in he's going to roche so Keeping in, he's going to Roche.
Yeah,
he's going top
and he's out
still cloning
out of there.
That is good.
He is
out of there
and I know
that was a lot
of jokes
made during this remasters about because we have the PlayStation MVP and nobody that wins the MVP wins the PlayStation.
However, the Escape Play does award a PlayStation he and he takes home the PlayStation
leaders even placing five so that. That's PlayStation 5.
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For Brian, nothing I feel comfortable sharing with Kezzer here.
Thank you, Brian. Back to you, Fear.
Taking it to HR.
Wow! That escalated very quickly.
I mean, we've had a fantastic event.
It was three weeks filled with amazing Dota.
I know our Grand Finals
was over pretty fast
but don't let that distract you from the fact
that we did have the best teams here and played the best Dota
they had in store for us. And I think
we can all be happy with the last three weeks, Gesu!
Oh absolutely, you had the best teams coming to play
that kind of shapes the meta
and lets people get better
and show all their strategies
so we can get a final switch
You know could've been better
but if one team is this much
better than the rest
what can you do?
Game in are too good One thing I'd like to highlight was the play-in
stage, we were seeing heroes like CK getting
overall first picked early on in the draft and losing
every game, and we were all like, why are all these teams
picking CK and losing?
It got explained to you by some of these top teams like
Gaming especially. They must have been getting crushed in scrims by the top
teams in the world and I think its funny to think that the teams that weren't even
here yet were still dictating the meta we were seeing
in the first week of this tournament.
Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of crazy good storylines at this event.
PSG Quest coming into this tournament taking out Spirit, nobody expected that.
Then going into Falcons,
Falcons losing to Liquid
who Falcons won
every single tournament
of the year pretty much
and Liquid take them out
and then gaming back
to the top again
so a lot of good storylines
so it was a really
good tournament.
It was a really
good tournament
I think also
a lot of the teams that we saw here that fell short early
will definitely hear more from them later on because
I feel like there's...
I mean, I feel this is also an event that happened
fairly soon after our patch where things were still not yet figured out.
I say that fairly soon, it's still a month or two ago but there is still not enough time to figure it out
and I feel like a lot of teams have started to figure it out
and they've learned so much from this that I'm sure
that they're going to come back stronger in the future.
This was the first three weeks, by the way, of the Esports World Cup.
It's an event of a total eight weeks.
Dota 2 might end here but well actually counter-strike also ends here
but what coming week there's PUBG Mobile.
There is Overwatch 2.
There is Mobile Legends Bang Bang for the Women Tournament
and there's going to be a lot more games
A whole lot more games coming over the next five weeks so make sure you uh you bookmark
the right channels to keep your eye on your favorite game there's a total of 22 games
live here from riyadh and i'm sure that there's going to be some banger games
being played it might not be dota 2 but it definitely will be good stuff for
sure from all of us here thank you but for our final words we we are going to head over to Toonami.
For one last thing...
I've been grilling all of your players, CY
but you and I have not gotten a chance to chat very much.
And while normally that may not be a big deal,
I know we had a lot of opportunities
to chat last year.
I vividly recall every single draft would end
at Rio Masters 2023.
I'd see your backstage
and do it... You shared like some at Rio Masters 2023. I would see you backstage and
you'd share some thoughts
about the tournament as a whole,
the drafts...
This year you've been
more of a recluse to me. What's up with that?
Why are you hiding from it?
Oh, I don't think I'm hiding like
I'm by nature very introverted
so I kind of just do my thing,
you know, like last year
I'm not sure why actually
there was just more to tell now and, it's also a bit more like
every day for me now but it feels good to win honestly
It feels really good
But originally when you started coaching
it was nothing but wins
I vividly recall we would
talk about you had a rare 100%
success rate as a coach
and as we've all
mentioned over the past 8 months
or so, the win rate became more normal.
You are mortal it seems
So you returning back to form
what has this journey for the past
8 months been like for you?
I mean its been very difficult.
I think last year, it was not only something to do with me or anything
The team was a really good league and we found some good stuff that worked for us
Obviously New York players are very good
That is why I also wanted to work with them in any way that I could.
I think for the last eight months or whatever it has been really rough.
We have come to realize we need to put in way more hard work and
that's what
we have done. And it's working out for now, who knows if it will work out in the future
but I think the most important thing is to keep it going
and the moment that people don't want to do that anymore I think they should do
something else so I hope that they all want to keep doing that.
So then how about for you as a coach?
I see obviously from players grind out pubs, figure out matchups, things like that.
But as a coach it's a little bit more nebulous.
I know you definitely grind out pups but beyond that
what would you consider your responsibilities
and if they've changed
as the team has kind of started to suffer
a little bit or did you stay focused
with what always brought you success in the first place?
Like for this tournament, I took over drafting.
I've been doing the drafting since the first tournament and I just drafted.
So I did that to take some responsibility.
I was always involved with drafting and
like always been doing the prep and stuff like that
but like I felt it took some
responsibility off my players shoulders in the games
And I think it worked pretty well
and I think its also worked in terms of drafts,
so that's the thing I've changed
other than that I do play a lot of Pops
and not like high rank or by any means but
I do think it helps me stay in touch with
the game and understand the hero dynamics and what is good versus what,
and so on.
I do also put a lot of time into Dota
demo mode, testing heroes, thinking about heroes,
reading, whatever
it takes, talking with the players, course, like there's always frustrations
with yourself or other teammates, like it's very natural also on our team so we talk
it through and I try to be as diplomatic and efficient, like a facilitator.
So I put on many hats and take as much responsibility
as I can on the team.
So then you taking,
as we see it in the game,
The Crown for who's drafting...
What was the discussion like
for you to finally take control of that?
Was it players coming to you or were you suggesting,
hey guys things aren't working out maybe we need to mix these up a little bit.
It was working fine I think our draft was fine
also Celery was always doing it.
If you don't mind me asking what was the event if you remember when it finally started to swap?
Like...I'm not sure at some point I just think that Celery
It was nice for him to focus on game and not speak too much about it.
And then Tova took over the last Dream League we had,
and we got second place so it wasn't bad or anything.
But at bootcamp me and Ace also talked about
that maybe I should do it just to take the burden off their shoulders
because you play the best when
you just have to think about your hero,
your game mostly and how it interacts and so on.
So we just,
the conversation was more like I went
to Togo for days and was like
I think there's a draft
and then
so it was like you sure bro and i was like yeah
and then we tried it we just tried to see how it went and it went fine and
then we just continued and i'm not i can't say that's why it's always
been better people playing better it's like it's always been better and people are playing
better.
It's like,
it's hard to pinpoint
things but
I think it's
a nice structure
for us right now.
There are a million
different variables
in every single Dota game
the fact that you guys
were willing to
shift around the pieces and egos didn't get bruised.
No one was like, no man, I'm the drafter, okay?
But you were very communal about it.
Yeah, no egos were bruised in that regard.
I think I was also always a big part of it anyways
so it wasn't unnatural
It's not something new I had to learn or something like that
I basically just have to get used to having the hero grid
that I like and click the button.
Like you know,
where are all heroes?
Switching on and stuff.
It's more like a
kind of down-to-earth thing
to get used to.
Well as someone like yourself
I'm glad this is a moment of vindication
to prove
that you still have much to show the Dota community.
CY it's been an amazing run.
I always love getting the chance to speak to you.
I'm glad we're able to do it again in championship form
and just like you enjoy the moment with your team any last words
if you have for the people thank you deal and uh yeah shout out all defense thank you for supporting
us i hope we will continue and i hope we can continue to play well. Much love, man. Enjoy. so so so. so so so so so don't so so so so so so so so Ready, set, go! so The foreign foreign But we used to see a world that no one else sees.
A big world, and it lives in us.
The world of excitement that takes you there every time.
The dream is harder but doesn't hurt you. foreign ¶¶ We'll be right back. so so.. so so I can't be without you I can't be without you so so so uh i can't so so Thank you. so um I can't be without you