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We used to think of her only as an aunt, a friend or a wife.
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A big world that lives within us
The world of enthusiasm can reach you foreign Michael McQueen. ¶¶.... Hello everyone, welcome to another
Rion Roundtable
Saudi Arabian Circular Surface
I am here with
PSG Quest, boys!
Two of my favorites in Dota 2.
And Omar and Noob!
Nice!
Thank you.
Why the exclamation point?
Can I ask that first off?
For this reaction.
For that!
Yeah.
For the changing of the tempo.
Very cool.
Why, why the exclamation point?
I don't know,
I was like 10 years old or something.
No, he didn't grow up much. I mean you have a great name. Thank you. Just like your handle is there.
I regret it.
It's really thoughtful man.
You had to think a lot.
Yeah.
It was hard to get...
To come up with this thing.
But it's like, you know,
you don't get embarrassed when
you're playing for the team.
Yeah. And then you go back and It was hard to come up with this name. But it's like, you know,
You don't get embarrassed when you say it
You know?
It's very easy
Right?
Do you wish you did a different name or do you like...
It's easy but I still feel strange
When people call me
To be honest Why is that?
Because it's just pronounced different.
Oh! Omar.
My name in Arabic is Omar and in English you can't say it.
You'd say O...
Say my name.
What are you saying again? Omar. Omar. Oh. Oh, say my name. Say your name?
Omar.
Omar.
Oh.
Oh.
Uh-oh.
Ah!
Omar.
Omar.
Omar!
Close last one.
That was pretty good.
OK, fantastic.
Guys I miss you.
The first time
I really got to talk
to you was last year
and we did one
of these podcasts
and it was so fun
hearing your stories
and where you came
from and all that
but life has changed
you know?
You guys are no longer
the completely unknowns out there struggling in the dark.
Now you're like, you know...
Pretty darn good!
Now you're doing fine!
What's your life been like for the last year?
Let's know! To be honest How's your life been like for the last year?
What's new?
To be honest, nothing much.
Same old same old.
Dota all day every day. Every hour. you still enjoying it i mean so far yes yeah i like it it's a very
let's say complex game and variable so i like this part yeah but a lot's changed in the last years you
know we got facets we got that huge patch we have you know all that crazy stuff going on exactly
exactly and just makes dota more fun the more you need fun, the more you need to think,
the more you need to work, the more you need to put attention and effort,
the better it gets.
Sure! You feel the same way?
You're still enjoying Dota as much as you did?
Yeah, it's more fun now even because of
Really?!
new talents...
a lot of new stuff
It gets more funny
Some of the old players
they are a little grouchy about it.
They have too much stuff to think about.
Just old?
Don't want to work.
Lazy!
You actually believe that?
Do you think there's lazy pro-players out there?
I'm 100% believing that. You think there's like lazy dope pro players out there?
I'm 100% believe it.
Name one, name one already. Yeah, name one!
You don't have to do that.
My one? What?
No no, don't't friendly fire me.
Yeah, no lazy people on your guys' team right?
Of course.
For sure, for sure.
The grind is actually a big deal
like there's a lot of teams that have been talking about
that and keeping their momentum
and stuff. How do you guys do it?
How to keep your grind up? Just keep playing all
the time with the team solo just keep playing all the time. The team, solo, you just keep playing.
Alright, alright. How about outside of Dota?
What have you guys been up to? Do you know
anything outside of Dota? Have you left your rooms in a while or...
There's
a world outside? Yeah, apparently.
I don't believe this.
There is actually something other than that though.
It's true!
Come on, any meals on your travels around the world?
You guys seen anything cool?'s up what have you done
for last year i don't have time to travel between tournaments and stuff oh we're just having fun
okay honest for the past six months i don't remember the other six months.
This six month, I don't remember we had time to actually do anything.
We've just been going from bootcamp to bootcamp to home, scrim from home then go to boot camps and scrims
then go to homes and play freshers. That's a lot of time around
each other you know? How is it like this? Do you guys have any blacklist
stuff or when, you know...
Did you ever get into fights or anything?
Not lately.
That stuff? Alright! Good good!
I mean, you've maintained your friendship over like a year and in the last year
how long have you been friends with?
Me and him?
Yeah
Oh shit!
I'm so sorry guys. My bad.
How long have you been acquaintances?
2018
I mean, I've known him for like six years
Five-six years But we've been playing together since I've known him for like six years, five years.
Five or six years already.
But we have been playing together for like three years now.
Something like that yeah.
You guys think you're going to be the back of the day two players
that interlock
the RTC create for seven years together never leaving
was on the future home yeah I've been liking this offensive are
so far it's really good. I like it.
I have some dry eyes, because of the weather I guess.
I keep tearing up
oh no you're not just being held by the beauty of your surroundings
i mean the reality is my team that's beating me up yeah okay
well we can't talk about that what's he saying oh he's not saying anything
all right come on you guys can't just be launching rooms all day movies
music food what do you have to do besides Dota? Anything.
I play board games.
Oh, what are we talking here?
Katana, Avalon...
Very good!
Yeah, I'm actually the best Avalon player.
Really?! Fantastic! He's so bad I've ever seen. Really? Yeah, he's so bad.
Fantastic!
I have proof here.
I'm a big Catan player.
Okay.
Hey what do you guys...
What would you like to specialize in?
Like s-
What do you mean?
Resources? He controls the sheep, he controls
the world in my opinion.
Rocks!
I don't know what it is in English
The rock guy!
I believe those are roads The yellow stuff. The yellow stuff?!
Ash? I believe those are roots!
Ash?
What is it in English?
Ash.
No, it's not ash.
Who said that?
Ash.
Ash? Ash... no that's us us oh
other resource oh what's it resource. Oh, the resource?
Oh!
What is it called?
The things in the field.
This...
Wheat!
Yeah, this is good.
Yeah, wheat!
Oh okay, Very good!
So board games? How did you get into that?
I just play with friends at home.
Yeah?
You guys ever crack those out in the boot camps, you know?
Have a board game night with the boys?
We tried. What happened? boot camps you know have board game night with the boys we played avalon yeah we tried what happened some jackboxes you know oh okay that's
always good i mean jack box was hard because language difference
yeah it was just hard to play.
But we played Avalon for a while but I beat everyone so nobody wanted to play.
That's so wrong man.
Okay take it easy.
Do you guys play any games besides Dota?
Any Elden Ringers?
CS.
CS2 player?
Yep, he's almost done.
You can talk to those guys
at this event, you know?
You can get on the team.
Nice.
Yeah?
I can look...
I can look
i could look for another uh opportunity
are you really good for real or are you
just kidding no i'm not
like very good so i'm just average jam, I don't know how to move
but I just like to shoot
He loses every game
today to us
No that's not good
How about you? You do any games besides Dota? good i used to play pubg a bit hey you can do that here too it's still boring i stopped playing
i mean there is like a lot of walking around talking. Yeah, you have to wait a lot and it's boring yeah.
No mobiles though you know? You guys get bored at Dota
you can always go into BangBang you know?
Nah no Boba no
come on
it's the same thing though on Steam Deck
if you play Dota on Steam Deck
it actually hovers it has an auto-aim for Dota.
Really?
Yeah, so if you're casting a spell it will help you out and select the guy.
I didn't feel that at all.
Maybe grieve you a little bit.
But there will be a pro player that masters Dota on the Steam Deck and he only plays like skillshot heroes.
And it will, you know Windranger arrows will almost always hit. Do you think that would have an effect?
He'll probably lose.
Maybe if he's playing dota mobile yeah i don't think
well i'm not saying he picks a Volker.
I'm saying specialty heroes.
Cracks out the deck when it's time
to play, you know...
What is that skill shot hero?
Pudge. Insta-hook
almost every time? Think about it
I miss every time
Yeah, they blink you're in trouble but dang
Okay alright very well Alright gentlemen I have had such a great but dang, okay, all right. Very well.
All right, gentlemen I have had such a great time
watching you guys get better and better every year
and it's still as I said last time
It is my dream that you guys are top one team in the world so that we get to do content together
all the time because it's so rare to ever do a winner's interview or anything with you
guys. Thank you man, thank you. But anyway,
I wish you the best and hope you continue to rise up.
Would you like to say anything out there
to everybody watching who loves you now
again as I did this last time?
Words out there! get more fans!
Okay? Please!
For the fans, thank you for your support.
We appreciate it.
It helps us a lot.
It keeps us going even when we're having a rough time. So, thanks a lot.
Keep watching.
Hopefully we'll win. Thank you so much for your time.
You guys are amazing to talk to as always and we'll
see more of PSG
Quest at the Riyadh Masters.
Enjoy the show, see you soon. so so so Ready, set, go! so You ever wondered how a Hollywood movie is shot?
On the Sony.
You review it on the Sony, and how do you make that sound epic?
You record it on a Sony?
Lunch break, on a Sony.
So why wouldn't you watch it
on a Bravia
by Sony? Ana Bravia. I so love you.
Have you got what it takes to get to the top?
It doesn't matter how high you climb, to reach the top even the biggest champ needs a break.
So you can recharge, dive back in and dominate.
Have a break, Have a Kit Kat. so. so so We'll be right back. so so so so so so so Okay, we just had an amazing day at Real Masters 2024 playoffs.
But Day 14 is going to be even better because Gaming Gladiators
is facing Team Liquid. Both of them made it
to top four last year and now
they're back at it again in the upper bracket final
but we also have TSC Quest going against
Falcons, both Mina orgs
are making it to the finals.
And honestly, I couldn't be happier seeing them both competing at Riyadh Masters 2024 in Riyadh, in Saudi Arabia.
Honestly, I'm so excited.
I don't think I'm going to go sleep.
Everyone else went to rest but
i just can't sleep i'm i'm just so excited i just can't sleep so Oh no, I'm in Jenkins' body of all people?
It's like Freaky Friday except neither of us are going to learn anything at the end of this story.
Well...gotta get on with the day anyway. This sort of thing happens in Dota 2 and eSports.
First up we got Falcons versus Quest and then we have Liquid versus Gaiman.
Like it's 20-23 all over again.
I'm going to go see if there is a moral to this story,
I am going try go see if there's a moral to this story.
I'm gonna try and get my body back, but for now
let's start the show!
. so so so so
you so so so Oh, hello. You guys came in early today because i know why it's because there's a lot of cool though to happen today so today is the
day we're okay so there's three there's one
more day after this.
We'll crown the champion,
and it will be an incredibly exciting final day
but before we get there,
we still have five teams
so we've got to narrow down to three
and we have to select already one of our two teams that will be in the grand finals tomorrow.
So a lot to go through,
and for that I got my best panel.
Hey,
Jenkins,
how are you doing?
My name's not Jenkins,
it's Fancy.
Sorry, hey Fancy, how are you doing my name is not jenkins it's fancy sorry hey fancy how you doing i'm doing great yeah
assalamu alaikum a little bit of uh
welcome salam a little bit of a rough night then the
rough sleep because i don't think sleeping in a buggy like that is comfortable
no i slept great it was good for my back uh i said on the computer like
like this you don't have a chair there's that no i don't have a chair? No, I don't.
But I sit on the...
Are you sure you're fancy?
I'm absolutely sure.
I don't think Fancy would sit like that!
I don't think he would either.
I do sit like that.
Nah it's me Jenkins. I do sit like that. Nah,
it's me Jenkins.
I got the body pack.
There was no moral to the story.
No moral to the story.
It was like freaky Friday.
Although there were some good things about that.
I will say.
How are you doing this morning Effie i'm really good um had a great time with my friend fancy in the morning yeah
yeah just looking forward to data yesterday was a very interesting day with PSG Quest meeting Spirit and I wonder if they can keep up the unsets today.
So, I'm looking forward.
Yeah there's some great storylines that we're going to talk about today regarding Dota 2.
Two things you should also be
aware of is that yesterday pubg mobile started and i'm mentioning this because
of course there's a lot of clubs participating in PUBG Mobile
that are looking for a shot at getting very far
in the club championships.
And, for example, Team Spirit has a team
in PUBG Mobile...
I'm not going to mention all of them because there's
a lot you saw team liquid as well there is a lot of clubs that have a team in property mobile
started yesterday and it's not just pubg mobile that is playing this weekend that will have
their finals as well it is also counter strike 2
that we'll be seeing here on the main stage tomorrow
so make sure you keep an eye on that,
also for the results of all the teams.
It's been quite a fierce competition
throughout all games, Jenkins.
Yeah we got a lot of...
it's nice to see our sister game
Of the Valve Enterprise CS2
They're right next door on that time
Right next door
I can hear them screaming and shouting
They are not loud right now.
Yesterday, the day before they went to overtime like four times in a couple of their games
And so their game lasted an hour and half
And they left here at 3am there no from nine and nine
am no they didn't yeah they did they had uh so we had uh quite the quite today quite
the uh the long one ours have been kind of long as well, we've had a lot of 2-1s
But no 3am finishes
No 3am finishes, I think that's
the nature of the overtime in
CS2 unfortunately for them or
fortunately if you're a CS fan,
your fan of the overtime.
If you're a fan... I'm a fan of the overtime because
I do like when the game goes long.
That's the same reason as why I like Dota 2 matches to go
to that third game cause I do think that's when everybody
plays either their best, but you also have the nervous
kicking. It's great. A lot of
great CS being played apparently and a lot of
great Dota being played as well and a lot of
great games being played all around. Of course I mentioned the club
championships already, and Quickshot is going to update us on how everything's going.
A lot has happened in the two weeks following
The opening night of the Esports World Cup
The points are starting to add up
In the event-wide club championship
Where teams compete across multiple games
And the top 16 teams at the end
Of the event will take a share
of the $20 million prize pool.
So here's a quick update.
By the conclusion of the events on Sunday,
Team Falcons are leading the club Championship standings at 2600 points after lifting two EWC titles for Korra Judy Warzone and Free
Fire. They also scored silver in Mobile Legends Bang Bang
and are currently in the upper brackets for the Dota 2 playoffs,
aiming to secure their third trophy at EWC Riyadh Masters 2024. The PUBG Mobile roster is
also looking for a main stage qualification
this week.
T1 cemented their dominance in League of Legends
with a win against top esports in the Grand
Final and are now tied for points with the
silango red giants at a thousand who defeated falcons ap brain in a
tightly fought best of seven final
fanatic are holding fourth place in the standings with 660 points after their participation
in League of Legends, Mobile Legends Bang Bang and scoring silver in Call Of Duty Warzone.
But Team Liquid is closing up on their spots after the participation in League of Legends
and Mobile Legends Bang Bang, they've accumulated 550 points in the EWC Club Championship with
a Dota 2 squad poised to take to
the stage this week in Riyadh Masters 2024.
We cannot wait to find out who lifts this week's trophies
and advances in the ranks.
So make sure that you watch the tournaments this week for PUBG Mobile, Counter-Strike 2
and Dota 2 and find out who comes out on top in the first ever
Esports World Cup live from the heart of riyadh
thank you for thank you for that quick shot as it has been updated a little bit
since yesterday as we have got quite a few teams moving up but is anyone able to beat falcons at this point
i don't know and i know two people that hope that that won't be the case anyway uh we're joined
by two people from Falcons.
Grant, nice to meet you!
Can you talk a little bit about yourself before we introduce your colleagues?
Sure yes, so I'm Grant and I am the Global Director of Esports for Team Falcon
So I'm here to run our teams
And also pick up a bunch of trophies for us here at the world cup
a very important job how about you can you introduce yourself as well
i'm sad industry i'm the ceo falcons i'm here to make sure that we won.
Well, so far it's going fantastic!
You guys are on top of the leaderboards and I mean, we're not even three weeks in right?
So it's pretty amazing.
Who is the one who decided hey let's get 16 teams?
Let's get as many teams as possible?
Well I decided that we must win the club championship
and then they had Grant and Moe, who's leading as well our esports.
They bring up the whole strategy, the planning of how we win.
We actually wanted to go for more games but we couldn't so we fight for more games, but we couldn't.
So we fight for more games while our teams didn't qualify.
But for us, whenever they announced the World Cup
it was almost won by everyone in Falcons.
When was this plan
set in motion then?
Because I would imagine
it takes quite a little bit
of planning to get
this amount of teams,
but not just that,
also this amount of teams
at high level.
I would say probably whenever also this amount of teams at high level?
I would say probably whenever they announced EWC, which was around March during that time.
Whenever they announced the new format and everything, we had the whole must-win.
And then we expanded into further games.
There was a game that we're going to expand and invest in whether it's an EWC or not.
And Dota is one of them.
Yeah, Dota is going pretty good
Jenkins. Maybe I'm asking you to reveal some
trade secrets here but obviously
you guys are doing quite well. You've scouted some
teams that are winning.
What is the process for
looking at a team
and then being like these guys are worth
picking up for us? How do you scout a team yeah so actually we have a
team of sort of six or seven of us in the esports division and we really try to just separate who
had knowledge in what areas and what games.
And if there was like knowledge lacking a certain game to go find that expert,
whether it's like a team manager or starting with the coach
or something like that.
So we try to very much build
like sort of top down within each game where our knowledge would lack. But then in some
games we just had the right people already so we knew who to go for, so yeah we knew about EWC
in March but I think also we were already starting to build teams
in November-December for preparation of what might come
when we thought it was Gamers 8, etc.
And that's where we got Dota in November as well.
Even in Dota, we started with our manager Afro who's like a former tier 2 player
and we're like, we'll start with you let's build this together
and see what we can create so it was very much a top down approach
That makes sense. Do you guys have any team psychologists that
you're working with for some of the teams?
Yeah, so we actually have a director performance as well
A guy called Lars Roble who if you know your Counter-Strike
You would know the name he was at Astralis for five years where he won a bunch of majors
and then did the same with Vitality.
So he's very much come in as our sort of direct informants
across the whole company instead of teams.
So he's working on so many games here right now
across so many teams, supporting where he can
and sort of has a small team around him now
which involves like a sports psych,
nutritionist, fitness et cetera.
So we have that kind of performance side also built with the players in mind.
And is it challenging running so many teams at the same time?
It's got to be a little bit overwhelming.
I think no one exactly knows
the exact number of Falcons players.
I would say it's above that
number because I don't have an exact
number, cause each month
whatever the payroll there is an additional players.
I think we have around 170 players now in Falcons as a professional player
and they have 30 rosters so 30 different games which is I think really huge.
The team has had a tough job to keep up to date but
everyone is doing the best
in order of our own ambitions and goals in Falcons.
Which is, I'm really glad that they are a very big part of.
And I heard that you were
a professional player yourself in the past?
Yeah, I'm still. I played here in week 7 at AFC FIFA.
I used to be the world champion in 2018.
And then that was the story with Falcons,
and then I moved and relaunched Falcons again.
So it kind of helps getting up with players, knowing what players need.
When do we talk to them when we have their time off?
At the end of the day, we understand that with all the ambitions and goals that we have,
players are humans at the end of the day.
And we're here to support them in their life not just on stage.
Does it mean maybe because you have that competitive experience as well but right
now the players that we're about to see play on sites do you have a more i don't know more leading
hand into how their day-to-day looks like while here or are you just letting all the players do their own thing?
A bit. I don't want to always say good things because of who I used to be or who I. So, I just keep it up
the players knows
who I used to be and everything
around it. So, I think when
I talk to them or there is anything
they listen more because they know that I talk to them or there is anything, they listen more because they know that
I can feel them either by the winning side or while they are losing.
So whenever players are keenly listening to someone that definitely helps but i always don't
bother them of how good i am because they already so good fair enough thank you both
for coming on this morning uh very awesome to have you here of course good
luck to falcons in the upcoming series and uh yeah we're gonna move on with our show but
thank you so much and i hope you have a good match thank you thank you and we are gonna look at the results yesterday
because yesterday we did have three series that ended in eliminations, Effie?
Yeah. We unfortunately had to say goodbye
to Team Spirit. I mean,
I think that's hard for anybody
who watched last year's Beatmasters.
It's always nice to see the returning champions
try to make it all the way to
the grand finals.
But we have a new contender now
in CSG Quest and I'm really
excited to see what they can bring.
I was sad about that, I did
indeed predict that Spirit would win the entire
thing. Don't worry,
I filled it in for you on the documents
so I loved it.
I saw that you did that, i went in there after and i tried to change it and then i saw it was locked in um i really did believe
in spirit uh and i think that they still had an exceptional performance, but Quest is just the underdog story of the tournament.
These guys will consistently lose game one in a best-of-three three look like the worst team,
and then come back
and crush the next two games.
It is incredibly impressive.
The teams that they're sending home,
they should not be sending home
from the position that they're in.
So it's a cool story,
and I'm kind of...
We just had the Falcon guys on. They were great.
Great fellas.
I hope they get crushed today.
No!
I want to see them reap from the lower bracket.
That's my favorite thing.
You can talk about quests and spirit a little bit later on.
Maybe not spirit but mostly quest. But Kazoo hello!
Hello thank you Jenkins. You know I'm here and you're like
just keep going about whatever you have to say. Appreciate it. Good to have you here.
I had to lose my mind a little bit.
I know.
I'm here now.
Well...
Quiet.
Please let the whole talk.
I am looking forward
to hearing what you have
to say, Kazooie
but not right now.
Whatever.
Why did you leave? Right now I want to leave right now i want
to relive some of yesterday's moment which with our remco top five highlights 🎵 so so so so so so so so so so so so Yeah, great plays yesterday.
They go together with great reactions as we can see in our pepsi
reactions and just a little bit and to be honest i think a lot of the series
yesterday went different than what we thought they were gonna be because i will say that the
quest one is perhaps the one that is the most different for me but in my opinion they played
so well it was so deserving like noob tanking their Naga Siren, like everything they did is just
So well deserved
And then the last three I don't know
You know Tundra are kind of cooking
Some DK carry some top summit Rubick
They're doing their own stuff
I feel it's not all that weird right now. Yeah and they are definitely cooking
and they've been cooking the entire tournament and we also didn't touch on
that storyline yet but Pure eliminated his former teammates in Vb2 it's not the it's not the first time that they
faced each other like i'm pretty sure they face each other at dream leagues on navy birmingham
and group stages account this is called but different because there's not really different so now that felt really good for pure we saw the all chat at
the end huge types carry diffs i mean that must have been a moment oh he did
well it was true so that yeah well it was true
so anyway
no it was true
we can see the
lower bracket here
screens
we had three series
in there
yesterday
we now have
five teams
left
remaining
but XGWVg team spirit and bb team they fell they had their keys crushed
tokyo at the start of the day still big smiles as he got to crush his third key thus far.
Of course, later on,
he did not smile as much
because he was the one getting eliminated.
Ducalus will...
Actually, you know what?
Did you see Ducalus is as key fresh I did not see
it absolutely evaporate just finally it wasn't new but they did it they sent in
to call us we need a look at it like wait he it's like if He didn't
stop. No, it
broke him too. Oh, he struggled to get out of there
and he left a bit of gold behind.
Jenkins, you should go check. That's a bit
brutal. And of course, it's pure that gets to crush bb2's key he did
that before oh yeah he made sure this key yes facial expression it? We have to see.
Don't worry.
That's the face of satisfaction right there.
I mean, he was very, very happy.
We'll see how he does today, of course.
Later today, he'll have a match against the winner
of our first match uh we have three series today and i wonder which series purge would like to
highlight good morning we're standing out here on the boulevard getting ready for the second to last day of matches and when I was looking over what game is the best game to tune into it was really hard to decide because at this stage every game super super super important we've got elimination matches
we've got the upper bracket final we've got another elimination match just to get to uh
the top three position but i think the best match has to be
i'm still conflicted honestly.
The Winter Bracket Final probably
the Gaming Gladiators versus Team Liquid match
I think both of those two teams have improved a lot.
Traditionally they're not always
the best group stage teams.
But they use that knowledge to transfer into power once they get to playoffs.
They try things out.
Learn some things and those losses that they sometimes get lead to them playing better.
So,
that has got to be
the Jameel Motorsport match of the day
for me,
I think.
I think.
They're all so good,
I want to watch them all.
So yeah,
tune into that match.
It's the second of the day.
The start of the day is going to be great too. The start of the day is going to be great too.
The end of the day is going to be great, a lot of good matches and more
to watch as the tournament unfolds.
We've got two days left.
I think you struggle a little bit finding the best match of the day because yeah, The closer you get to getting a champion,
the better every single matches and he went for the safe safe option he went for gaming gladiator versus
liquid in upper break fans it's uh it is going to be a very exciting match heavy it is going
to be i mean it's the el classico? They played against each other so many
times last year. Liquid never
quite did it except
at last year's Riyadh Masters
where they did actually knock down
Gaming Gladiators to the lower bracket. So they
have a great history
against them in Rio.
This is going to work out in their favor, I think.
How do you guys feel about
the El Clasico? Because I've heard some, you know,
ladies and gentlemen around
the block say, oh, Liquid
game again? But for me,
I think this is going to be great.
It is going to be great. It's gonna be great!
We'll talk more about that after the finals,
when the series is actually happening
but first...
Link hurts for that.
Yeah, yes he does.
Because I think this series
is going to be the best one.
Well we just saw
the Jameel Motorsport player arrival for
our upcoming series and I want to talk about
this because this is just
spicy. I feel like this is going to be
incredibly spicy. The whole year, you guys got to remember
the whole year every qualifiers falcons
they're a new team so they have to go
through qualifiers to get places because
they don't have any prior points to get
invited based on love
so the whole year these guys…
These guys?
They stopped Quest from getting places!
The whole year!
They played so many matches together against each other.
They played a total of 9 series together, four of those were best-of-five grand finals of which the couple even went to full five games but never did Quest win and every time
Falcons qualified it is these guys.
It's sickening.
It's sickening.
They're Dark Souls boss.
I am such a Dark Horse cheer on her.
I love Falcons.
Don't get me wrong.
But I'm very excited
no the good guys we are gonna first before we talk about anything else we're going to hear some words about from marein and how he's feeling this morning.
I'm here with Malrein of Team Falcons.
You guys played your upper bracket match
against Gaming Gladiators, it was pretty close
but you guys ended up losing
And in game three, you guys ended up losing and in game three
you guys did a lane swap you had amara play mid huskar
and you played offlane primal beast why did you guys lane swap that game
well those are the not even practice it in the our clown wars you hear me right
but i mean we have this idea before it indicates that amara is not playing primal based and
i like too much experience with this hero,
and I understand that against Chen
I'm going to have a good lane.
Anderson is going to control me.
Andreas, I mean...
I mean, just ending up by having the good lanes.
And this actual idea was working until we started feeding and...
We still had changes that were playable even against NMR or Oros in Chen but we just played bad
yeah I agree
with that
it seemed like
Amar was ahead
in the lane
Ember
had to go back
to base
so it's ok
it happens
with all the matches
going very quickly
I feel like there's a lot of fast
matches right now with at least two teams that went through the winner
bracket do you guys feel like you have to adjust your play style at all as a
result of that? I think our playstyle fit with new meta of playing fast with some mechas,
some crits and just running in enemies.
It's just sometimes we're probably...
I mean this game that's ending fast is just about a couple moves
that are happening in the early game like rooms like minute eight ten some hours
as you taking disadvantage you can easily stumble on it and sometimes it
just i mean obviously you can put it as
unlike it but i will say he's just misplaying like we're missing something
and we're losing sure yeah i mean that happens
that does happen thank you very much Malorine and Purge as we see Falcons setting up
This is a team in the lower bracket even though most people thought they would have
A clear road to the grand finals but the funny part is for me anyway that they
did drop to that lower bracket to the same team that they lost on the very first day
and after that effie we we heard that they picked themselves up
but still weren't able to get back on their dominant form
that they had earlier this year.
I think that because of how high level every team has been playing in this tournament, I don't want
to write off any teams for any series loss that they have.
But I mean, I have faith in them but they'll recover.
But I have more faith in them that they'll recover, but I have more faith
in Quest right now to just take
like sweep everyone off their feet.
Catch them completely off guard.
I will say that yesterday they definitely called Spirit
by surprise with some of the things that we're doing.
I think also like a lot of the three-man ball, you know,
they play with their noobs tanking mid, T82000 hits Naga Siren.
I don't think we're going to see that today.
This guy on this hero is nasty and this was also like the type of
big brother, small brother type of situation where i feel like you know
quest they may have been beaten enough that
today mr jenkins is finally today uh i agree with that take i was looking
at the naga as well he just seems way too good on that.
He's always been very good at the illusion heroes and he's very good at TA.
I think TA is not as strong as she was at the start of the tournament or at least as
strong people considered it whereas I feel like naga is kind
of underrated uh so i don't think they're gonna get that at least not in the second phase not
in the second phase yesterday was a very emotional day.
I think knocking out Spirit is must have been such
a powerful moment and now they're going to go up
against their nemesis in Falcons,
And then actually I want to listen in
to what is gonna happen here on the main stage
Here you beat OG
Two time TI winners
You beat Spirit
Two time TI winners
How are you feeling right now my man?
Alhamdulillah,'m feeling very good.
I am very happy for this win.
I would like to say one thing
charity esports do it again
For some reason we're giving up every first game i don't know why but thank
god everyone because you're cleaning out the series in the end you want to keep everyone on
the edge of their seat your show're showmen, and we are enjoying
the show right now.
And as a result
of you defeating Radon,
the stars have aligned
for the Mina region,
and now
you're going to get
the matchup against Falcons.
These guys have been gatekeeping you all year long,
but you've shown a lot of growth over these past two and a half weeks.
Are you ready for the rematch?
Hell yeah!
Hell yeah!
That energy... You can feel it. I mean these guys have worked for this moment
I think the entire year because if there is one team that constantly stands
between you and making it to LAN events,
You're gonna remember that Kezu! That's gonna play a part.
Oh yeah I mean you hate these guys because you lose to them,
you try to learn from them and now its like finally the time
your playing on stage they are doing well I'm sure
their feelings and momentum is obviously very high
through the roof you just beat Spirit yesterday
you were feeling very good so...
Mr Jenkins
you have some spicy stuff for us, isn't it?
With the charity losing game one and winning the other two games.
I've got some spices.
I just wonder emotionally how it feels for Falcons to win game
one and then lose two games in a row,
and then Quest they lose game one and then win two games in a row
the last two series.
So what gives more energy?
What does give more energy?
Let's find out how TA is dealing with his energy this morning with Purge.
Thanks Shaver, I'm here with TA2000 of PSG Quest.
You guys had an upset win yesterday against Team spirit knocked him out of the whole
tournament you crushed their key what did that feel like it felt really good
i didn't crush the keys so but but win was
incredibly
good
feelings
did you
did you guys
come into that
series expecting
to win
yeah for sure
even when we
got crushed first map like 20 minutes
I still had feelings that we will win this series
You don't know why? Inside you felt it?
We were talking
off camera before this that you're the underdog team so you just don't expect
to do well so you just don't have pressure on you
right not really Not really. I always expect us to play good because I know we're a good team,
we can beat any team but we need to work hard for that so when we we're playing good, I'm just upset. But the expectations are always good.
I can't say we're coming to a tournament not to win. Always coming with this idea of winning,
but just it's not happening.
Yeah that makes sense.
Oh you got to play Naga Siren twice yesterday in that match.
Did you expect to get Naga two games?
I was expecting one from them on map three nag but they didn't they give it us we just used it on second we wasn't planning it but
We're trying to bring him back I guess
Okay great
Are you guys gonna knock out the Falcons next?
The tournament favorites
Just gonna take another favorite team, knocked out OG,
knocked out Spirit.
Yeah it's very excited series for us cause the Kanda was beating us whole year and time to revenge has come
and i think they'll be scared we're not we have advantage okay that's great
to hear well good luck in your match and thank you for joining me.
Thank you.
The revenge has come! Strong words. I am very excited for the series
For the reasons we already talked about
But i do want to also keep it real before we get the players on stage, I just want to hear
like how big of a
shot does Quest have here Effie?
I think they have a decent shot
The thing is
they beat two really high mean high tier teams high to your orgs in the same way
where they lose the first map they get slightly underestimated in the draft of the second map
they win that game and then
they just completely stomp
with their game.
It's happened in both series.
I think with Falcons,
they're going to give more respect
from the very get-go to Quest
than these other teams did
because of their experience
playing against them and falcons
when they're in top form they look horrific the scariest team in the world to play against so
i don't want to count out quests but this is a hard enemy does the buck stop here i don't want the butt to stop here i think it's
so interesting but i i agree with mira i do think this is a different beast uh i think
spirit was also was also a different beast yeah because they're the team that won last year.
They won two TI's.
They win when it's millions of dollars on the line.
For anyone to win we need to get the players on stage so we're heading over to the kitty arena with fancy and
tsunami so so so so Welcome everyone to the second-to-last day of Riyadh Masters 2024.
We had 20 teams set foot here at some point in Riyadh
for a chance to win that trophy,
and now we're down to just five.
That's right,
and all of those five teams are playing tonight on stage
starting off with a match that's going to be important for everyone from the mena
region especially the fact that it's gonna be um what ammar what i'm not versus i'm not what What?
Amr versus Ammar.
What?
Amr versus Ammar will play at the stadium today.
Al-Hana Rafush, Texas. You mean Quest versus Falcons!
Yes, Quest versus Falcons are playing their first match but we
also have a lot of
matches going tonight
Liquid versus
Gaming Gladiators
one of them is
gonna get to the
grand final being
the first ever
grand finalist
of VR Masters
2024
but we also have a third match playing against andre
whoever wins from those mina matches that's right three western european teams remain
and in this matchup one amina team is only going to come out surviving after the end of
the competition. It's looking pretty stacked but I love The Underdog story, Quest have been cruising
through this lower bracket and Falcons are the favorites who've been
gatekeeping quests all throughout the qualifiers may finally get their
comeuppance or maybe the favorites will continue to win. That's right they always
have been trying to get to the finals
for all the tournaments
in the middle region,
but now they actually
have a chance
to take revenge
and finally making it
to the finals.
But at the same time
we have so much
to catch up on
in the upper bracket
because Liquid vs Gaming
Radiators kind of reminds me
of Riyadh Masters 2023. We've seen these matches so many times in the past couple of years and now
we get to see them again in 2024. Yeah it's not just Riyadh Masters 2023.
We had a bunch during
2023.
It was during 2023 that
Liquid finally got their
revenge against Gaming
Gladiators and knocked
them down but after so
many major grand finals it was always game then it's tough to say which
team is going to be better in 2024 or but first off let's get those two amina teams on the stage
that's right and i'm so excited to introduce this match for
you guys and for the first team walking on stage it is team falcons Skiller, Marine, Kret, Snakekid and Ammar.
They may have qualified first seed into the upper bracket and got the first in their group, but now they're walking on thin ice. Keep in mind that all of their upper bracket games ended up being three games, so they always take the distance, but now they have to keep their keys safe from being crushed by team quest
so let's bring him up it's psg Quest!
TA-2000 noob Malik Ducalus and...
Give it to me Fancy! It is Irma!
That's what I'm talking about!
Forget about 23 Savage.
These guys are the Kingslayers.
They have been taking down OG.
They took down Spirit and will they finally be able to take
down falcons
teams take your spots and take your keys back to their rightful locations.
It's not wasting any more time, Tsunami. I really want to see this match!
Let's get it started! so so Everybody, everybody loves a good underdog story.
And in PSG Quest we'll see how far this underdog story can go.
If you think they have what it takes to continue here today make sure you get your
predictions in www.stcplay.gg actually if you also think that they can please also put your prediction
is going to be a very exciting best of three a lot of question marks regarding the naga siren
and if banned if not banned and how is going to go down and to be honest these two teams they
they know each other through the entire year but did they scrim a lot this event?
We don't know.
And we also know that we've seen both of these teams
grow and change a lot in these last two weeks.
So here we go! Drafts is gonna be on your screens in just a second
Kaz what should we look to
here? Okay
We're going to be looking at I think
a lot of early fighting. The one thing I'm looking at is the
mid with the two supports. The three-man ball, who
can go where and kind of enable each
other? And other heroes we were looking at, well
you know, the Naga's already out. And
secondary, if Falcons were watching yesterday, which they were dk popped off in the
last series what pure did on DK was insane they are traditionally one of the best DK teams
wouldn't be surprised if they looked at that. But yeah, early fighting
three-man ball mid are my
main takeaways for the series.
Honestly I think it's a win if
Naga is getting first phase banned already
for Quest because there are so many heroes that you have to
take out if you're playing against Quest, cause Noob's hero pool is what I want to talk
about. The heroes he has been excelling at are the heroes that have just been shining
through and if they're not banned in the first place
they demolish the enemy team.
Those heroes are Tiny,
there's Sand King,
there's Snapfire...
These are snatched up instantly
And Falcons had to expand a ban already
on one of TA 2000's heroes,
which will open up one of Noob's heroes at the very least in that first phase.
Looks like Falcons are just gonna go for...
They're basically banning out all the heroes
that Quest have been owning so far.
The heroes who got them to the stage, the SK and Tiny you mentioned
the Snap as well and the Naga
literally some of their best heroes
So they are just trying to put them you know not out of the comfort zone but like on different heroes than
what they've kind of had all these good emotions with over the last days i think
this is an interesting thing to try because if you were to look at quests
prior to them knocking out Spirit and OG,
you would definitely surmise that this is a team
that plays maybe fewer heroes very well
than some of the other teams in this tournament.
Like the Broodmother for example has
not worked out for them at all however at this point i do question are they just on a roll
do they just have momentum uh but it is it is worth testing this if you are
falcons banning out these signature heroes and seeing if they can actually still play dota when
they're out of their comfort zone so i think that for me, there are key heroes
that just elevate quest as a team.
But they have really shown impressive map movements
in this tournament.
Like, they will often take fights even when from behind
and they'll go for very aggressive plays that maybe put them in
a bad position in the game that comes in mind is one from a few days ago where they smoked
into beastmasters triangle against which team was it feels so long ago gee i'm so g o.g yeah they smoked into og's uh ancients
really early on like minute 12 and they threw their lead entirely so sometimes they'll be a
little bit over aggressive but the fact that they have the confidence
to make these moves against these very established teams
bodes very well for them.
That's true and they were winning
that game until they made that move
And that was like one of those disastrous moves in dota where i think everybody empathizes
where it just goes the absolute worst possible and then after that the game is not winnable um but
they were winning that they could have actually to 2-0'd that series if they had gone for that disastrous move.
I will say this looks very well prepared, at least so far from Quest.
Both teams obviously prepared very well for the series but they take take out their SG early. They pick up their Primal.
There's a Heichens and there is a Pango coming out.
You're pretty happy with that?
The insta-band, the CM Phoenix like some of the supports
that Falcons have used specifically also against this hero.
So just now you can already tell these teams have had time to prepare
they know their opponents and they know what they want.
But that does mean that they're comfortable going up
against the Wutmik no?
It does, and this hero would honestly be good for either team.
Both should be looking towards it, and Jakiro.
I think Jakiro's stocks have gone up incredibly well
And probably Quest want that Jakiro a little bit more than they want that Hoodwing
But I to talk about
that Primal Beast
opener because versus
Falcons, like you
mentioned Sheaves
Hoodwinked but also
what else did they
play?
Chen and Enchanters
and which heroes can
you draft in the
opener that preemptively deal with Hoodwink, Channon
and Chantress?
Primal Beast is probably the best one.
And not just that!
You pick Primal, leave Pangol on the pool, and you're comfortable with your BKB into
Pulverize counter for pango later on so they will go with the weaver
instead i do think on second pick this hero is nasty they also ban out devoid so two of t2000's
best heroes at least that one within the last days are out with
the Naga and the Void.
Weaver is very good it can be a one, it can be a four and I feel like your Pango maybe
wants some help later on like Mira just mentioned.
Primal into pangol is a very good matchup for Primal.
Maybe you can have some supports already that eventually in mid-game they get a Lotus Orb
to help you with the match up but for now Weaver and Pango together are very strong
lots of minus armor, lots of skirmishing.
Yeah and the minus armor may be counteracted
already a little bit with the spent pick up on
the other side. You're so tempted
to take Rubick actually when Weaver is
in the pool but even if you don't take Rubick
here I think Jakira is still a good option.
Hoodwink was left for you.
Giving Falcon's Weaver is a very bold thing to do because every time teams leave it in the pool against them they end up losing.
Maybe just take the hoodwink yourself on quest here.
I love Jakiro as a hero, but I can definitely see him fall flat into these two heroes.
Weaver Pango can be kind of annoying for you.
But if they just want follow-up damage in any of these heroes
You know, they will kind
of do that right with your dual brev your macropire or just the hoodring i feel like
living is just a little more chill it's just nice yeah nicer my opinion
i think so too i feel like they have enough damage with these two heroes and a Hoodwink,
So yeah, I liked this.
And then also, you know,
Hoodwink plus Primal if they wanted to run that in the off lane
That would do very well
Hoodwink plus... You if they see a better offline pick that's also going to do well how do we just win any Lane against an hero
yeah look at the stats for Omer on the Hoodring. Very comfortable with a 6 and 2.
Yeah, it's just... Honestly he is such a good hero
and enables everything.
Of course both him and Krikk played incredibly well.
I'm not sure how much Falcons have played
bad rider support or specifically Crit,
because one of the supports that I see abuse
a plus five Sven is the plus four bad rider from
you've seen it from safe multiple times
like that actually absolutely destroys it.
You don't care about Warcry,
you can pull people
out of position.
They could also keep it
as a soft flex later
because Marine can
or could actually play mid
but then it just depends
if you want to play it
or not
because Dota,
as we always say, is so much about feeling and your instinct. If you don to play it or not. Because Dota, as we always say,
is so much about feeling and your instinct.
If you don't feel it,
don't play it.
I like the bat as well.
I mean, Crit played it for a long time
in the past
for two patches
And its very good against the hoodwink
Not as good as it was before where you could scout
the hoodwinks in the trees with the sticky napalm
now that doesn't get visioned.
They go for the Amara Timbersaw or Malerina Timbersaw
It can still be flexed.
I think the timber pick
was just too tempting here
because you don't want
to get it banned out
in the last phase
because you see the Primal
and it's an excellent
hero versus Primal,
excellent gear
versus run also
and it's one of the
annoying heroes to play against
third wing because you know, you hunt her down in the tree lines
and stuff but it can go both ways because she has a break
against you and a way to kill you early on.
How have we not seen timber more when Sven 5
is meta like this
you want pure damage
I
you know everyone buys
everyone goes war try
shard and then they build a fight
so physical and magical immune
so pure damage
stonks
should just be rising up
but you know Amar
he knows.
I actually think this is almost guaranteed to be an offlane timber.
I was thinking the same thing as you that the flex for this Fenn
is mostly five and one.
Both of those lanes, both of those are safe lanes
And I think no matter what the carry pick is or
what the five pick is
Timber will do well in that lane
So you pick this hero and know
that you're gonna get a very strong Timbercore
from the offlane.
I don't think Nid plays mid Rubick,
but if he did,
it would have been one of the most enticing
Rubick picks of all time.
There's so many good spells to steal.
They can get some pure damage,
but also even lane well...
At least at some point,
Cress still has damage in like mid-game right?
You know if the game prolongs primal
will always it's one of the infinite damages you get an accident or you have a break your
foot ring as well but they will need to look for more answers against this timber
is that an answer?
I think that's pretty good, it can be a soft flex between maiden safe lane you always go your maelstrom into the glib blob
you have magic damage
you can focus fire
the timber of someone else
so overall
i think this is pretty good
I want this to be the carry hero though because
This is not enough early game damage
To rotate on Timbersaw which is what you
Want out of your mid laner. If you play against timber
You need your mid laner to go to his lane and
Kill him. And traditionally, in the past,
those were heroes like Lina and Batrider
that were picked against him,
but those heroes have fallen out.
TA-2000 has played an incredible Wind Ranger too
in the play-ins
and it makes sense, right?
You have the five spend
pair with the Windranger that
Safelands should do well against Timber.
Yeah this means that
Quest thinks there are
multiple options for their mid or multiple options for their mid, or multiple options for their carry.
Or maybe they're running the primal mid.
I guess just in general,
the draft is very flexible
so if they just went for the Windranger here um i mean this matchup
i feel like if i'm timber i'm more than happy to play against a win she just
sits there and pokes you and then you're like well i want to be poked i get
reactive bomber stacks but she will also farm
she's usually a hero she has a lot of damage.
You're not going to stop her from CSing.
If you get a rotation
or if she's out of position, you can kill
her. I don't think it
should go the other way. I don't think Timber should ever die, but
in a 50-50 both teams are equally skilled matchup
Both will farm
Yeah, it looks like the Windranger was picked to deal with every other hero on Falcons
But not necessarily the Timber.
So they need to address that in their last pick
and the Doom ban would have been great. We already
talked about how Primal Mid has a good matchup
against Pango so you're not too concerned with changing
that up. Now you just need Am means to shut down this Timbersaw
because your early game damage isn't there.
But I've always loved Windranger versus Pango.
Like if you have the prime movies of Paul Veres and Pango
You're going to have a hero
that can focus fire him down
And kill him in the Rolling Thunder
So they think it's gonna be most likely an offlane pick
Since they are banning out their Doom and Enigma with the Primal going mid
I thought there was maybe more likelihood that Quest would pick a new mid, like maybe one that
would make it for...
Like, make an offer for both Pango and the Timber to go into that lane but I'm just gonna
try to follow Falcons line of thought, maybe if there are offlaners who come out,
what maybe like some Mars for quests?
Would they lack damage if they do that into the offlane?
Yeah, I think they could definitely lose
that lane against my Weaver carry plus...
Because there's other heroes in the pool who maybe look good but don't feel good.
Like Slardar you pick it into Weaver andokiro. I think you'll have a hard time.
Beast is in the pool which is very not natural at this point
in the draft but I don't think this is an incredible beast game.
Your lane isn't too easy.
I think like Timber and Pango can be annoying it means very volatile at least
zoom really would have been excellent they would have been the pick for sure
i mean dark seer is also still in the pool but then you'll just get countered by falcon's last
pick here and you your carrier ion shell
is going to be your
final piece.
I do think with the
troll gyro bands,
that kind of shouts
Dark Seer, but then
you have a hood
Lincoln lane.
I get the rhetoric of oh, you can play Dark Seer, but then you have a hoodlink in lane. I get the rhetoric of oh
you can play Dark Seer with the melee or with the ranged
sure maybe they could run this Sven
as the four
in that case, but the bans
do look like it's Dark Seer. It just doesn't feel that great because
Illusion of Weaver is also not very good
I would have proposed the new mid
Caudill, but they don't have last pick on
PSG Quest to make that flex.
So, the Dark Seer comes out it's probably one of the most picked offenders in the tournament
It's a good aura buyer
The synergy isn't inherently there because
the assumption we're going off is this that this is a carry win ranger
but the primal beast that's buffed up early on is gonna be a force that falcons have to deal with
the pipe it's just not a great Pipe game either.
I mean against Shakiro sure,
It does nothing against Weaver
It doesn't do that much against pango
And then Timber is like all pure damage
So this is... Dark Seer is an excellent hero.
It's one of the best offlaners in the patch.
However it's just not the most god tier Dark Seer game that we've seen.
Yeah I will say like it generally feels good to have this hero in your draft but for all the reasons that Jenkins just said
Like i think that
The Timbersaw and Amar is one of the best
This hero kind of changes a lot of these matchups
It makes Orus a lot worse
I'm not quite sure how to pinpoint this Falcons last pick,
I couldn't find like an incredible...
Okay, I was thinking maybe you want to do Oracle
and just put the Weaver one?
I was at least debating
if it's fine against the Darkseer, like it does make sense.
That is an excellent pick.
You should lose your traits to Woodwing in my opinion pretty hard on the side but you can try
to play through your mid and slow down slow down the Dark Sea a little bit.
So I think it makes sense.
It's also safe against Pol'Barris with the Oracle ult
that should be valuable.
It's good against Layton because you
can remove Iron Shell for those who don't know
with Oracle's Q. But i do feel like this hero doesn't
provide that much by way of team fights right it's a hero you want to have in the back and just
provide defensive capabilities so all the firepower has to come out of basically the hero and we're so used to
falcons winning off of their supports having sick rotations right snake kings rotations to mid lane
where they get the tower crits rotations but crits on a slower hero in Jakiro
and Snake King is on a slower hero
in Oracle so picking it is good for lane
but you're slowing down the overall pace of your
early game on Falcons.
At the very least they do have other cores that are capable
of rotating. We've seen Skeeter make a lot of
these portal rotations super
early and Weaver is very
good at doing that. I think Amar on
Timber, he's gonna...
He can show up to things but it's probably more likely that they can rotate to him. But I think Mal'Rin on Pango
is going to be very active
which I do agree you're going to need to help him mid
in order for him to have that activity, but guess what? Oracle
predicts the runes. So it is actually
like a hero that does
beneficial things for the
mid through that...
Is that the innate or the passive?
Through that innate he's actually doing stuff for mid
just not in the way that these other heroes necessarily do like
if i'm quest i definitely i want to tempo the game up like for what Nero
just said.
Generally Falcons are
really good at going
through the rules.
I think Falcons,
I mean Quest should
be winning those fights
they should go together
speed up the game
and for me when it
comes to Falcons
my eyes on Amar.
My bro if he pops
off this game
he will carry later but Quest they could
speed up the game quite hard get themselves a lead
but I also think that they have to do that
They need to play from ahead, shut down this timber
and just kind of show what they did yesterday
Yeah, and I think for same thing you want noob on the
primal beast to just rotate and kill every lane in the same way that you don't depend though
to do it so always limited all eyes are not mid-lane before we get eyes on that mid lane. Before we get eyes
on the game though, we're going to get some
eyes on AUI2000 who has some words for Perch
Thanks for joining me. How do you feel about
the draft so far?
I think we are pretty comfortable with it.
We've got some heroes that we really like.
Honestly, I think the Prime will be Sunday
was a little bit unexpected for us
but well, I think we have good answers
to the hero this game so we'll see. Are you comfortable
with Oracle against the Darkseer? Are you going to break
his ankles effectively?
I mean, honestly, I don't think
Darkseer loses lane to Oracle that hard
but maybe Oracle Weaveraver i'm not sure
but i think in the game like the darksweep does nothing to oracle you just
have only magic damage and norco is good for set all right great well
good luck any match thank you
here we go ladies and gentlemen it's time to get into the action between team
falcons and pst quest two teams of course that have met countless times
and countless times psg quests have failed to be able to
take down team falcons here the rib masters at esports world cup
down in the lower bracket. Will this be
the time that they're able to take him out, folks?
We'll have to see. They did get a lot of comfort heroes
right? We saw Falcons prioritize
a ton of bans on Tanubi
took out his three main heroes that we tend to think about
he still gets his primal beast in a row through because that's one of his also most played ones
it's a comfort draft for them for sure on falcons also though
a ton of companies the oracle is the only kind of mismatched one, I was expecting
the Enchantress but you could hear there from
Aoi why they did want to go for this one instead
multiple different ways to dispel
versus the Windrunner, versus the Warcry
early, versus the Darks here and then the Magic
negation as well too
is pretty huge this game.
So yeah, let's see
who can execute
because these teams
have met so many times
in the meta qualifiers
meta region etc
all these games
I think they went
6-14 or something like that
in the last couple of games. Plus has won one series
versus them but for the most part it's been Falcons
taking the edge
This is a treat though. We get to see so many comfort heroes
And i've been wanting to see Noob play his Primal Beast again.
It's one of my favorite heroes that he does play for him
because he just has four or five main ones.
We did add Sanctum to the list yesterday
after we dominated on it,
and this is one that can dictate pace okay
and how's it sort of ended up looking because obviously it was what the first picker came
out very early yeah um which i think as you were saying when we're watching behind the scenes
this was something that they probably had to do if they were
together on one of these heroes that he's gonna have a really potentially
potentially explosive game on how do you think team Falcons we've got about D but
gone about dealing with his first big panel and how hard is noob's game going to be
uh i mean on paper they do have some solutions they have big burst damage
that comes from the timber they have distance control that comes
from like ice path and stuff like that to stop the pull of Rize. Then they have
the Oracle spell, just all
pretty much actually that are quite effective
since one of them keeps him in place versus
the trample. The other one blocks magic damage which is
the trample and then the other one of course purges the ultimate. So
there's definitely some answers that they have done. It says will
they be able to execute them? Because sometimes I do see even if
you have answers versus some primals, if he
finds the right angle and he's able to get on top
of these backline supports, it can be devastating.
Especially if he is able to get a good BKB timing in particular
because I have seen quite a bit now
the Primal Beast versus Pango
And in the early game
It's a little tough sometimes for these Primals to get this pullback versus Pango. And in the early game,
it's a little tough sometimes for these primals to get this Pulverize off because
Rolling Thunder just comes through and if he does grab
a different target, it just gets cancelled.
So we'll have to see how these timings all go
and how everything does come in as we do see a lot of all chat coming in
even ducala saying i mute everyone even my team so oh there we go that's good advice on us help me
in my games the carlos he's onto something there.
I'd say, yeah,
apologies to Jason Jamil.
You just
momentarily have
a force up.
You should be
able to get the
action underway
pretty soon.
And looking at
Falcons now, one
thing I would say
is that their
lineup, it doesn't have a lot of instant catch.
Instant lockdown.
So when it comes to these fights,
you look at the heroes like T2000 on his Windranger
he could end up being pretty slippery.
Yeah I think the Oracle
dispel can be problematic
that's the one thing so
early game rotations
could definitely see
Snake maybe go through
one of these portals
since you can leave
Skeeter alone,
as we've seen a lot of times and they can look to kind of surround.
And we'll have to see how the lane goes in particular because I do think
this Timber pick even though we've only really seen Falcons play it
has dominated every time he
has a, of course... So this game out won third pick
this time? Yeah. We saw the other day
when Falcons got it for Amar
what was his picks and it was like, it was an incredible
game. I believe he didn't die he's taught that word an incredible game. Yeah. I believe what he didn't die
is top net worth the whole game.
It was pretty wild stuff
from a mile in the timber.
This time round,
surely because he came out
early on the job,
it should be,
it should have been dealt
with a little bit.
I mean, has it been
are there things that could cause him issues in this game or you
do you feel not was it just the way that the draft was going falcons knew that
they could throw it out third and that there was gonna be other
issues that psg Quest had to resolve
in the ending of their draft
that meant they couldn't really afford
to pick anything
that's gonna make this game hard.
I think the lane is gonna be
the big one to tell how
they're able to do it,
if they are actually able punish him at all in particular with this spen and this
wind ranger that's why they went for the win rangers because they have this
distance they can always poke them but spend i think there's a really clever
pick this timber saw versus the sven because
spent providing the lane it's not really
the most yes you're providing a physical barrier versus some but timber he's just going to be able
to chunk through that and also they do have the jokiro there so it's a ton of magical damage
that they can provide in the lane, which Sven just does not like
to play against.
I think the other one that I've seen that looks really nice versus that Sven 5 is like
Batrider support too and Jekiro kind of fits that mold of just massive magic damage
in combination with the pure damage
that comes from Timbre.
So, players joking around about some coffee
and Amar said you should order
the shuttle already.
Oh! There we go!
Some fighting words there from Ammar.
I mean that could be... maybe they need a shuttle already
because they're going to get a quick two-arm.
That could go both ways but obviously a little bit of banter there
from Amar indicating that this one is gonna be a stomp Amaris eyes Amars all
chat I think this tournament has been some of the funnier ones as some of the
things they put out yeah just finish he wrote one in the lobby the other has been some of the funnier ones. Some of the things that... What else?
He wrote one in the lobby the other day
that was just,
it was too funny.
He wrote something about like
doesn't stress make you colder
or something
because they're talking
about the AC.
Noob got him back
pretty good there. He says that their coach is already preparing for topson
you know? They are ready for what's to come
this series has always been done in the mind of PSG Quest
Hey Ducalis was responding though
that means he did not mute them so
He's lying.
Oh.
Well,
he probably unmutes for the Bantam
during the pause.
And it's just that
I'm with him on that.
You know,
unmute the whole team
but if something spicy happens
and a pause happens
I'm unmuting
so we can get in the band team you know what i mean
if anything this pause is probably going to make
the game even more exciting which is rare to say with pauses
but it's giving that it's given the time for these two teams to you know get some fighting words in
before the action kicks off these pauses do kind of you know now you get to really start
to go into like a nitty-gritty okay where am I gonna put my sentries?
Do I want to block these camps and stuff like that?
Alright we're getting underway.
Here we go.
No more trash talk coming in maybe for now
because they probably will come right afterwards. We'll get some during the game for sure absolutely this is going to be a treat
i mean this will be incredibly fun they both were talking about smokes quite a lot here and speaking
of the smoke oh so the mind games oh god wait here we go let's see if someone gets i mean after you've had that
sort of all chat in a bit about to back and forth getting the first blood you're going straight for
both teams you know you'll be ready to play.
You don't want to sit back and passively let each other get the bounty range.
You're looking for first blood as we get into PSG Quest versus Team Falcons!
I'm looking to...
There's some fun little synergy kind of facets since, I mean, I'm checking to either some fun little synergy kind of facets is me.
I'm checking Maureen will be checking for the ward so does
Scout in particular, but it was one there.
I think maybe the darks here could have seen him there too
because they're pinging on the side
because that's usually where you see it
So got a little clever little smoke moving today could have seen him there too because they're pinging on the side because that's usually where you see it so
kind of a little clever little smoke moving to detect each other's wards and
stuff like that um so fun little facets to talk about is
just the combo of the the primal beast plus the darks i don't know why this one
always comes to mind but the double movement speed ones that they can
buff each other up and stuff
like that was pretty cool.
Hello.
We do see kind of a standard... I don't think
anybody took any of these facets that is not standard no nothing
crazy nothing crazy to be expected it's just the dark steer one uh it's mixed between certain
players which when they do want to do if you feel like you can actually punch and contest
with your Darks here we see mostly that one taken
for laning phase but yeah this one is also very
strong in the mid game.
Let's see how it does go down.
Yeah that's wild. This Primal is going
to have his movement speed boosted by three of his allies
Yes Sven darks here and the wind exactly
Fast pretty cool. Right zoom it when I saw it at first
I was like, okay some really interesting stuff going down your trip Pretty cool, right? He's gonna zoom in. When I saw it at first,
I was like okay this actually has some really interesting stuff going down here.
Fairly tanky, kind of close to his tower.
Will they actually commit for this?
I don't think so.
Don't want to waste your blood grenade on something like this
that probably won't net you a kill somebody this bottom lane as you mentioned yeah decalus
i feel like this could be this could be hard for this how are you playing as a sven support they
can have so much damage that they're
throwing down on here as i mentioned that now warcry is not going to do much about at all
at the least obviously if it's safe lane win ranger that area should be a little bit more fun yeah
guys are just tanker exactly 2000 is going to get to play from range
and they do have ways to secure those range creeps as well too with power shot what the
stun is felt too so yeah i think like ducalis he's just going to be like the absorber probably will
die a couple times once or twice inside this lane to attempt to secure
for G2000. So, Lane Control already coming out
mid. I always like to look at that one
in the first few waves.
Very important because Noob is, as we said, super comfortable.
He's played this matchup a bajillion times versus
the pango so we'll have to see how maureen does able to hand was able to handle it
let's see how this one goes through because it is this oracle counter pick versus the dark seer
but not double melee so omar can actually just constantly poke
i mean perhaps the dispels aren't going to be as effective you'll probably be able to explain
what we heard when the coach interview with uh with ali he was saying that he didn't think in
the lane necessarily the oracle is that crazy against the dark so why do you
think he sort of downplayed that because i feel like we always talk about how strong
the despair is what do you think owie says yeah that's not that's not that crazy there's ways to
play around it does have a pretty decently long
cooldown on the Corruption Gen, I think also because
it's not double melee, it can be a difference, cause
Omar is not going to be playing with Ion Shell at all, he's just
going to be poking from a distance which is very effective
versus a hero like Oracle. That's true.
So you think, yeah, if it was the case of Darkseer
plus a melee pull that's getting in your face,
then the Oracle feels much more accountable
for what that style of lane wants to do.
Omar could be in trouble here. Might need to look for it tonight the neutrals
now he's going to try and run he's got the fairy fire see if you can waste snaking's time chasing
him maybe yeah indeed he's gonna be able to keep out of range of snaking and we'll get away. So no first split to be found quite yet.
Yeah maybe because they also...
Mid yeah we're seeing 11-6 Noob having a fantastic time. He was able to get that water moon as well secured while omar
with the kind of effective movement even though he got kind of pushed out
atop it was very nice for him to just secure that as well to deny it away from our ring
yeah because i see what new can do on this primer we saw him yesterday
what under the sand king joe was a tanking different era maybe
a little bit more busted but he was having some crazy early game rotations
with that hero.
Is there the possibility to play that sort of fast
on a primal? Would you say can we look towards
early plays around the side lanes from Noob?
It's probably the fastest one in fact actually because you can even
just leave the lane that i've seen level like three level four rotations when you go for these
bounty runs and stuff like that so yeah definitely possible for new he's contesting absolutely every
single cs here so far he's getting quite a fair amount of deny since
he's got this point in uproar does have that nice base damage whenever he's trading with maureen
so yeah we're seeing the effect of that in that one 16 to 7 to 12 3. i mean just
a bit of a better time right now.
He knows it too.
Yeah, he's gonna hit good timing on the six for sure. Definitely quicker than that on Malorine.
So leading forward to this week, you know,
the Water Rune exchange will likely happen as
we'll see if the supports do move. So we're talking about the six minute thing because I think one
thing Oracle mentioned on the panel that's pretty interesting is being able to predict where the Power Moon
is so we'll see how well how that comes into play how
the movements come around those ruins in particular at six minutes as
we always see the double support rotation nice bush very
nice pushback and a vacuum drag back onto snaking a couple more punches they've got him that's first club for
omar can he get away skipper is going to want to try to get a trade kill here but scared to commit
indeed doesn't want to try and stand his ground against the two of them you might down bottom
bit of a rotation made noob as he swings over
to join forces with dakar let's try and take down crit it's got marion by his side news ready
to go back in not only connect onto cryptic onslaught but nope he was settling for
the water when instead just wanted to make sure
he could secure the uh the refill on the ball the other one
it'll be able to grab them snaking comes in with a tp of course one of the
benefits of giving up that first blood uh that he can at least be
the refuel for the bottle that maori needs i've been new
he had such an explosive performance yesterday on this tanking and he's
he's really delivering right now these things phase
these moves these quick little movements around is really working out for
him nicely. And so far
bottom, Dacalus has not died
So he's been able to secure some good farm for the Windranger
Amar is farming as well too
and see when they get to level 3 on crit
If they're gonna go for a kill. But so far so good in these lanes
For the side of PFT Quest. Dartzir struggling a bit
On the CS front but they were able to secure that kill
Yeah I guess there's one thing right Shorza as a Sven, one of the benefits is the support
because you're able to use
the Warcry
to keep yourself alive
in this trade
and that's not doing
a lot on this end
of course
because the damage
is coming from elsewhere
but obviously the fact
that you're a Sven
you've got a lot
of HP right?
You still have to successfully tank for
what Falcons are throwing out in this landing
place between the J'Kira and the Timbersaw.
Nice power shot.
Very fire it.
Heal.
Saves him.
He's gonna be able to try for a power shot in a second,
he's got another power shot.
He's gonna try for his ult.
Yeah, Dacol is just getting getting changed though it's got the stick
charges though you see in range he's got stump back up yes he's okay he's gonna be able to get
back away from here snakey has also turned over the fight they've got the pushback set up onto
a marvel finding that damage kill thisber is going to be pretty difficult.
Another power shot in two.
Probably not going to be enough, even if it
hits, so they'll hold back on that.
Nice rotation. We saw similar from Omar
when he was playing the Hoodwink yesterday as well too he's everywhere i
think he hit all three lanes yesterday in the first five minutes just like he just did now
he's been top he's been mid he's been bottom power rune it's going to be coming out so
see where it is gonna be
and they should know on the side of Falcons because
of that Oracle, of course.
They are gonna be using that...the prediction
so their contesting top
cause they know what's up there. And Noob, he's not quite six.
Seems able to charge out of this.
He's getting caught in a very tricky spot over the Rolling Thunder
and indeed that was enough to lock him down.
Snaking, he'll come in and borrow the kill.
Yeah even though Noob was having a really explosive start malrine does get
those extra few cs just after a moment and he had six first somehow so
pretty huge that he's able to secure that kill after noob was having a good
time in the in the laning phase at the start.
And that's that interaction, you know what we'll see
The Rolling Thunder versus that Pulverize
Versus the Primal in most situations until that BKB comes out
It can be difficult sometimes but t2000 he does have free
farm there's a yeah quite a big separation
that come out comes out just because of that one play
mid it's now 700 800 gold lead just on the pango in particular versus that primal and they're
getting a bit more out of that top player policy He's trying to go for a steal here.
Again, this wisdom rune!
This is a crazy move.
Now he gets punished.
We'll get a one-for-one but
just trying to go there is very
very crazy too much burst damage into those trees
mallet should be able to start catching up here with these uh
little bit of jungling yep after what was yeah going to be the top
laying out of the landing phase when you look at this beautiful matchup we have a couple tp's
coming in 2000. focus five at the moment doesn't really have
the damage to bring down even crit so he has to run
he's gonna get pushed out look at the rotation that the falcon special i call
it from skeeter oh he's in trouble we've got got the root, and Skeeter, he's
got the damage. He does this... I swear
it takes like seven minutes every single game.
But we were seeing a lot of carries start doing this
and I think we've heard multiple times even the panel talking
about how we want to see these rotations quite a
lot in the early game because they always seem to be successful
and he's just been out vision with his movements around the trillions but if
they find him they're securing the rune again here
for noob too
they just there's like newb just or sorry from alrean you just can't actually
go to contest that rune because falcon just knows where it is
every time that oracle you know that prediction is coming in
you always just know which room to play around and now all three cores having a
pretty big advantage in comparison versus the side of psg quest the timber lamar we've seen what
he's been able to do when you get free fire.
He's going to be a problem.
They're going to try and go on snaking here.
I'm hopefully trying to help out indeed in the river.
They're taking the Chikura down,
snaking,
healing up a little bit.
Still alive.
Skeeter comes in. He's still alive still alive he's able to get under the tower
and survive vermont he's able to kill off the back lines well they'll say the back plans is
the big one ta 2000. it gets burst by the timber source he was going to start chasing
down noob having the damage
to bring down this primal on his own those unlikely so noobs will manage to walk away
but indeed the oracle lives and it's the wind ranger tier 2000 that ends up going
down and now jacala she shows himself for a second and it's an easy
kill maureen with the arcane rune also the heavy verse now from mamar this is gonna be
a problem it is three zero one on the timber already. We've seen this story many times before from Amar.
We know where it ends.
And he knows his itemization, too.
I think he's one of the...
He's the best timber in the world by far for me.
And he just knows how to itemize
in a lot of these
games when sometimes it's
like, yeah, they might
have some damage, some
break, et cetera, kill
him.
He's one of the few that
accelerates an agonist
timing sometimes when he
feels necessary.
So he's set up for
success.
Noob is able to back up
and get himself a stack,
so he does have the even net worth of Mal'Areen now,
but these rotations they're hitting
and they're hitting hard.
The bot tower is already dead.
I think for me and you, we've seen a lot of this Weaver plus Pango combo together in particular from Falcons.
Once those fights start kicking off in mid-game it's an absurd amount of minus armor.
Yes there is going to be the Warcry that That's why they probably went for this to kind of counteract it a bit but
it gets pretty overwhelming very quickly.
Power Rune again.
They know exactly where it's
going to spawn so Maureen he gets it
i mean playing with oracle as a mid laner is just fantastic you're like okay thank
you i know what all the runes are and they'll clear some stacks as well, too.
So Malriem...
We are seeing the Blink rushed up.
You know you were mentioning at the start
how there might be some weird kind of ways
to initiate fights on this side of Falcon
so I can imagine that's why he wants
to get it so accelerated
every any time a pulverized comes out he'll be there to cancel it
once he has the block with the down tongue quest
now keeping up and farm pretty well.
Only about 1k gold difference in League of Legends sound
so this quest still keeping up with my course.
The only concern for me really is that TA2000
even though his farm is not
horrible by any means, this is a lane
whenever you pick Windranger in the safe lane
this is one of those lanes that's kind of meant to win.
You want to be able to win that lane so when you don't
things can become a bit problematic
if you don't get
some type of snowball kills
afterwards because
you don't farm
at the insane pace
like some other heroes.
You farm pretty fast
but not
the fastest.
So we'll see what type of repercussion it does have afterwards you know he does have his javelin he's getting a bit closer to that maelstrom but let's see if he can actually
get any these focus fire kills to snowball himself a little bit.
I feel like Falcons are quite happy with the way that this game has gone.
It's just every time you're going see him with the power rune.
Quest mech is finished up on Malak, can't just rush a pipe this game since
you're playing versus so much...
I mean, so much mixed damage, it's physical,
It's physical.
It's pure.
It's kind of all over the place so he is going to go down
that mech route first
and see if they look
to fight around him
since he does have level 9
He's got the max ion shell
Let's see if they can start
looking to get something
going with themselves here Noob has gone the route
of blade mail so that bkb will be delayed let's see if you can get any type of successful pull
rises off because hopkins they're smoking i mean yeah they're coming over for him again
and around these
powering timing there will be you'll set up on the mid ice path to follow
up bushwhack will momentarily hold back Amar
they catch it with the root indeed it's there and the chakrams are in
The burst comes out noob to fall
And we can turn towards Moore, rolling
from Mowery and he's able to catch Omar as well.
Omar, yeah, this itemization right?
I don't think we've seen maybe the Ewells first
every time on something like this Timbersaw
but he gets the setup for the catch
and it's also a very good Eul's game to dispel
a lot of things. The wind run
the dark seer, even the war cry and get this
extra catches. They are accelerating things
pretty fast here. The mid tower gets brought down a noob even though he's
a primal beast does not look as tanky as i think he was hoping to no not at all not at all and it's
i just hope that we see psG Quest try and make a move.
Because it's kind of slowing down, Falcons they're able to make these methodical movements
And get away with this not being punished whatsoever
Like PSG Quest they can't sit back they've got to be more they've got to do something yeah i agree at least i'd
be sitting behind it and not look waiting to tp in they need to have
everybody playing so they're going to smoke and try to force something back falcons did use the rolling thunder
so they're gonna try to take advantage of that one but they are set up here in
a good position they're defensive on this pango he is
spotted with this ward so let's see if they do push
forward here. The promised crit is in the area too
and now has hit six, so MacroPyre
is online. And just tough to
commit into a kill when Oracle's there.
So you go for Malorine snaking. if he doesn't get gone on first he's
gonna get his save off i mean they smoke but they they're like no one's really showing in
the lane that we don't want to walk into a high ground.
We don't want to walk into a triangle.
Mid.
Try to go for the cheeky fortunes
and blink play
and Rolling Thunder is back up
so they weren't able to take advantage
of that downtime even
and that means falcons are just going to look to smoke look for another catch
and they have a word right on top of omar
not gonna go for him just yet.
Maybe wanting a bigger target, the power rune also is about to spawn
Really want to try and find something with the remainder of this smoke but maybe that
made it would just sell for a month or one like jump up in there and say my condominium
so the other be other issue for PSG quest overall is trying to ever kill Skeeter early.
Since they don't really have a blink initiate either, this Weaver can just get out of most of these ganks and I just...
They'll find Omar. I mean it's whoever they find kind of just dies now
they've got the itemization as you say and the tools to just oh a new burst mid this is
a bit of a deep dive well they have the follow-up try and force themselves away from the onslaught
we'll get away there's a little bit deep there marie may be getting a little a little excited
trying to get that kill either way they're applying tons of pressure ta2000 still
bottom of that core net worth trying to just jungle as a wind ranger does have his timing i
believe of that maelstrom you want to see him try to get involved with the focus fire kid call us nice not go
anywhere this no slowly but surely yet taken out here by my and crit boom
continuing to have just a beautiful time in the timber,
making it look very easy every time he brings out his Timbersaw.
Probably just have to ban this Heroic Assist here.
Especially if you're going for like Strength Core.
I don't know. If you're gonna go go for like strength core i don't know
if you're gonna go for primal just in case you kill threat every time on
something this but you knew it was they banned out everything else for him
so they did want us put this one in early yeah he had the
first pick but uh as you say if you're forced into doing
that maybe you've got to consider and even the stem muscle and also now like look i'm
seeing what the way noob's queuing up these items and stuff like he's probably
also in the same thought of like we don't have a way to start fights
but I also need BKB so he's queuing
up the blink because they probably want him to have
some type of way to start anything because so far
they haven't really found much
It's only those two kills. Falcons have been able to make the easier
moves with that blink on maureen with the ewells on the timber saw not a whole lot happening for
psg quest i haven't been able to make any plays they have one sort of smoke attempt
they have the greaves on the darks here i want to see them honestly by grouping up with him a
little bit using that ion shell but maybe they're just feeling it's difficult versus
the way that falcons is playing because Because Ducalis shows himself.
And they're ready to dive in.
He dropped down a macro pyre.
He's super dead.
Not a chance, another kill for Skeeter.
As Falcons continue to pick and choose their plays across
the map and not get punished.
They're playing this perfectly.
Maybe they just feel like
they can't make a move, so Noob has blinked
and now Noob has been found again.
This would be pretty incredible kill if Falcons get him
because he's 100 gold from that blink if he does
want to go for it.
The blink will give them
that initiation tool to perhaps accelerate
things, but he will be very killable
since he's not probably
not going to go that bkb route first omar it's gonna find them are in the trees there
there's the fact the falcons either they're able to make these moves and sort of sweep across the map and and they're not yeah they don't lose any efficiency doing this they're keeping up at
continuing to grow them in farm psg quest
again like it's just saying surely when the blink dagger is done or whatever still come
out next he's actually for the ogre club right so okay
so just definitely spending up on the bkb said that does mean more time in which psd quest are
probably not going to look to do anything i look at malik mallet is queued up a blinking set so
they're communicating things right they're like
okay i don't noob's probably like i don't want to ruin my game yeah if i go blink and
there's an oracle in position or a jokiro in position or i don't catch
the timber so who does he actually go on if he if he does get the blink dagger right there's
so many different ways to cancel and save so i can understand why he is gonna
go for that and then just allow malik to go for the blink
he shows himself look at the lightning and the rolling thunder
and the macro pirates. A lot of damage
And it is indeed
too much for the Primal to withstand
Noob goes down. They're playing this so well
It's not giving any opportunities for PSG Quest
to find literally anything,
and we see an early shard picked up here from Malrein.
He actually buys this one on the pango...
just to be able to get that extra control and skidder he is already stalking and he can't get involved so much easier because he has this glad you're omar
easy tries to bounce away with a sharp
shooter but you can't escape this
nope
he saved the glider as long as possible
doesn't even have to use it there to get
the kill
that's getting pretty rough for psg
quest and there's always the chance that they That's getting pretty rough for PSG Quest.
As always, the chance that the games were going to be like this
we knew they would have quite a challenge here today
against Team Falcons and certainly in this game one
they're starting to see the difficulties already
could we uh if possible let me just there's not much not too much crazy stuff happening
can we get the other the bounty runes and then i know maureen has gotten every single
one of the the runes so far
because of this Oracle thing, but...
No there was one.
There was one right? Oh there was one.
They've got The Illusion at the start.
Sorry you're right. The Illusion at the start. You're right.
I believe indeed outside of that all the other power runes
most certainly going to Team Falcons.
Yeah they are controlling the map while also controlling power-ins, while also getting all
the bounty runes so even for
DSG Quest they're not able to get that many of these
so that gold lead just continues to grow and
see accelerating things to the Roshan onto these objectives falcons is
playing it very methodically in psg quest they have to make i mean now they have the blades on
so maybe blink on him and then a bkB for Noob And try to go up or something
If that doesn't work
I don't know what they do after
What's their insurance policy?
It feels like we've just seen a lot of games
Like this where
The team that is behind
Maybe indeed sort of End ended up in a position where they draft doesn't
have sort of it doesn't have the strongest chance against the enemy they just hit creeps
and hope for the best what's the other team just takes over
team falcons getting everything pst quest where
where is the grip well what is the recipe for the comeback that is
great wait let bless you double mac on falcons
snaking bottom mack crit bottom back
okay what happened sometimes they've
turned off their comms Falcons they're
just chilling I know they give her one
two of them but whatever it happens agonist now also for a mars he's just unkillable
really does feel like he is unkillable at this point even before two if he hasn't died four zero
the vacuum combo.
It's a nice
three-man vacuum
wall and a stun,
but...
K2000 has beat KB.
Oh, he does,
and it's a good job
he does.
He's able to turn
folks towards Cripple.
The false promise
comes out.
They've lost Omar.
K2000 now
has the back off. Omar is in. he's killing the back lines he's able
to jump in take down ducalis you got a rolling thunder controlling malik will try and surge
away but the yul scepter comes into play triple kill for a ma they can't get the kill he's making in the right place that's
the bkb reveal from the ta i don't even believe new could even show up because you didn't want
to pre-b kp as they decimate the fight even though it's a thing
no they it is it's like it's a beautiful start you know they're very pretty there
for three man stun two thousand trying to kill crit before snaking
very easily yes ever pop down the false promise
and keep that Jakira alive so...
BSD Quest? They get nothing!
They just covered their bases so well
and you know itemization- lineup we can talk about draft stuff always
and everything there are playing to their draft beautifully but
it really is a lot of this itemization too that is phenomenal this timber going for the fuels early
has messed with a lot of stuff because i'm just i'm trying to go through like the new process
of he's like oh i need to go on Oracle.
Oh my god,
I just can't because there's going
to be an Ice Path
or a Eulceptor
or a Pango.
It's which target
can you go for?
Falcons have discovered
their bases kind of beautifully
and we're seeing
the result of that.
It's already 11K lead lead, 15 to 2.
A lot
of these games have happened like this where things just snowball
out of control and there's very little
chance to see a recovery even with teamfight
wombo combo.
It was yesterday right where
psg quest had the series where they got crushed in game one then they came and
then game two and game three looked fantastic yeah so maybe that's going to be the case here
because so far we're definitely getting them
being crushed in game one by Falcons.
We've seen quite a bit of I think the team that won the first game then wins – the
other team ends up winning the next two.
We'll have to see, because this one
it's starting to feel like
it could almost be
to that GG level.
It might indeed be
like the final smoke
if it goes horribly wrong
we'll see what PSG Quest can do with this
they need something amazing
to happen. So they've got okay bkb noob blink malik bkbt a2000 they have to execute this at some
insane level and ammar can they kill them? I don't believe so at all.
That Focus Fire...
It just can't work!
NT2000 already put down to half health,
could have had a greater healing load on him but
They can't touch him.
Yeah, he just knows the way to itemize so beautifully.
He is the best Timbersaw and yeah you might just want
not play versus one of his obnoxious heroes. keeping together they're not making sure they don't give any of these kills either
they're just playing as this unit sneaking and crit always behind their cores just in
case to save them and malv right now the items just keep pouring
in an extra core item every single time they go for an aggressive move skeeter also having
a hurricane pipe is there any what's next request any other item that they're closing in on
that's the i mean they got the big three
honestly that was the victory it's just
they can't
they can't make a move with it which
feels pretty grim
outside the base now team falcons
oh by the way snake sold uh they did sell them back oh yeah it's not bad
i wanted to point out before but yeah he sold it so crit's gonna finish it up
he's gonna go for aether lens just to play even further in the back lines so that's minus a bit
of money it's not most expensive of items anymore on the Mac but still
losing what like 800 or something you know under 900 about which i guess they can afford when they're 13k up 24 minutes in yep
they got money to spare here yeah that lens is still incredibly valuable so it's not that lens is still
incredibly valuable
so it's going to be
great for him anyway
oh
mosquito tries
to get the catch
on dude there
with the bugs
he's gonna keep
searching for him
oh
here he is he saw him that time.
Might just have the BKB TP
can be trying to save it.
I mean...
He's got a BKB TP you don't try and risk it without it
I mean he knows he's gonna right in multiple routes so bkb
and that just i think he really wants to hold on to this bkb they also
so yeah at the top lane time to just try to cut some waves and stuff malik will attempt
to be able to delay stuff but falcons now can play super aggressively on these lanes they
can probably show in all three well i think they can farm anywhere it feels like anyway
without those bkbs being up there now just even more liberty to do so
yeah crit knowing they've got just a firm grasp of this game it's going
to take quite a couple throws it feels like from falcons to give psg quest any chance here
i think they're going to try so if you can catch skis not gonna latch for the push
sharpshooter coming in he's able
to get the time lapse off those skaters back up to full hp it's a 3000 hp weaver they've still
got the focus fire running but it's not nearly enough damage to threaten him he's got the backup
of snaking you know she's gonna turn and get the bugs down onto two of them that's poking forcing to threaten him he's got the back of a snakey and i'm just going to turn get
the bugs down onto two of them that's poking forward seeing if you can take
a chance at tier 2000 but the wind runs back up
i can't believe they don't i mean the fact that there's this they can't get
that kill when weaver is completely alone skaters build
he has 3000 hp unbelievably tanky on a
weaver it's 25 minutes and he has 3 000 hp is this the strength you're own that's pretty crazy he has more help than a mark
nope his bkb is still on cooldown oh it is they found him a skeeter so many wolves here if you can live for it's coming up soon he ain't living skaters everywhere they're not even getting opportunities to farm the scooter just make
magic malik oh wouldn't have mattered anyway but...
Hey!
Maybe they can kill.
Hey!
They're gonna get a kill.
There we go.
At least one.
Can I get any more?
No.
No, no.
But they got...
They got a kill.
They got Snake King. Still... They got the king. Still... no but they got they gotta kill they got snaking
still might be at the threat of the base getting taken those the rest of falcons ready to continue
pushing on 3-17 26 minutes in 14k lead for falcons it's just the supports who have died this game on
the side of falcons you'll see this quite often from them but this time it's just as clean as
it comes to setups there a mark steel set up into the glide net to carless dead under the tier fours
godlike on amarr yeah i think whatever happens he ain't getting him to play timber store in game two
that's going to take quite a bit of can't let him out this it's gonna
take quite a bit of theory crafting and moving things around in order to try
to figure how solutions is there's got to be top priority yeah because okay
you know if this wasn't like some last pick timber They showed us one third pick and it didn't matter.
It still ended up a game where they haven't been able to kill Amar once.
They never managed to either draft or play a solution to his Timbersaw.
I don't even know if there are many when it's Amarana anyway,
so maybe you just got to get rid of it.
Yeah.
They tried to go for something because they
have the Sven which is not the most aggressive here on lane.
They try to go for this Windranger to pressure
but it didn't pressure at all they
maybe need a different solution for that dueling if they're going to leave the timber
to find some type of kill if they want to go through some type of special diving in now maury
him with rolling thunder on towards carlos comes in with the birds Thunder, on towards Takalis. Amar comes in with a burst.
Takalis out again.
Picture perfect.
Midrack's taken.
They've worn inside the base.
Lanes are shoved out a little bit here,
I believe from some ion shells and stuff like that.
A noob is drawing the line also to shove out bottom.
Skeeter take away that wisdom rune
and he is getting toward that kind of gg item i already because he
already kind of has all them but the real
gg item is when he gets the mkb versus
the wind ranger there's just no hope
afterwards dude he's going to try
and help out see if they can have a
chance at taking down amart they cannot
i'm always perfectly fine the backup comes in for falcons dude
he has to pop the vkbm run he's gonna go for the tp we'll manage to escape with
this no bash now to the side tier 2000 was once again able to take snaking down so
snake king have a couple of deaths here and there but it definitely doesn't change anything in
the whole grand scheme of things maybe they could get critters well this time
you'll be able to drag him back with the vacuum stunts as well can they get out with this
they've got two supports here can they kill a core psg quest they have yet to be able to do so and it
doesn't look like they're going to be able to malik is going to try he's got the blink he's got the ewells
do they have any sort of chance of bringing down them on no they don't
have any follow-up not bad though catch my bad they'll be
able to get kills they're keeping the game going uh but yeah just clarify
indeed not a single core on falcons has died yet this game and noob i believe he got
a little lucky with his bkbtp out because maureen did buy the basher
right before that i don't think he got the bash of the swash so he was a little poor rng to be able
to get that back up they'll claim the wisdom rune get their tormentor as well and skeeter gets it oh that's the dream
the weaver just gets a free one yeah and he's about to have that mkb finished up pretty soon
too to be able to just focus every single fight once he's got that.
TA-2000 will be getting closer and closer to Ag,
so we'll have at least some type of protection for himself.
Here comes the Five Miles smoke from Falcons.
Yep, they're looking to probably take another successful
fight win and to look for that roche it is going to be shifting to bottom soon
i do like the malloc tried this this is actually kind of cool you know they're trying their best
to itemize with what they're up against the ewells build on the dark seer you know we were talking about this amar
agonist they needed dispell but it doesn't do enough as he call us here's going deleted
got the creep wave pushing in on the mid so back good protection will be taken out i can start
pushing onto a second set of barracks and tier threes down here on the bottom lane team falcons
and yeah nope we'll keep you back fresh agonist on the wind ranger they're gonna try something
they've got the vacuum wall down i thought it was going to come out for a response
that's how number one snake kings response another shackle
oh he's actually going to go into the four-man shield crash maureen
he wants to keep this fight going potentially
so mark you watch it from the heart of focus
they got a grab, but they're pulverized!
Can they focus any damage onto the timber?
So that Amar puts the Shiva's Guard
now for tier 2000. He takes down Maori!
That's one. The Lightning is back up they've got
to catch over the two of them the carlos and i'm stepping up but oh my he just turns around
first through dakar this year 2000 getting some cleanup kills should get crit also crits
getting very low amara he's also cleaning up so both of them uh
getting a bit of clean from this one i guess the triple takes down omar t2000 able to find
crit it's something it's okay it's pretty good. They lose everyone other than
TA-2000, but he gets
a lot and he got I don't even know how
many of these. I think you want to get two or three
focus fires in the fight at least to
get some good target priority too as well and I do have to say
Maureen got some horrific RNG
so he tried to bash this Pulverize
in both situations with a squash
and the roll or the shield crash thing
to be able to pocket. He didn't get a bash on any of the hits.
It was like eight of them,
or something like that if I'm not mistaken.
So it did get some good RNG on this side of Noob
to be able to get these grabs in focus fire
and finally get a core kill at least.
They do find both
Skeeter as well getting caught on that high ground
and getting chain stunned.
And if we, I mean,
if we do see the fight again
you'll see
Pango tried
he literally tried to bash
both times versus the Polarize and it just didn't happen so
if they do get the bash skeeter does survive in the end though
it's the best fight we've seen so far this is how well by far you know which uh no doesn't sound great when they did lose four
heroes themselves but relatively to everything else that's gone on this game it's it would
it suck it's a ps They're going to try and get
out on the map here with the smoke, they won't be able to get over towards
Roche before it gets taken out by Falcon. Skeeter
grabs the Aegis. And he does have that MKB
now.
And with the Aegis set, tough to see them bringing him down twice but they're gonna look for an angle.
This could be a tough one Amar he's just waltzing at them he seems to know perhaps where they are
They don't want to go for the Timothee O'Shea because he was trying to get around Amar and find a different target.
And he will!
Snaking again.
Good angles he's finding with this Agonyms.
The rest of Falcons, they've found the rest of Quest.
Malik's able to stay on the vacuum wall but Malik jumps in
with the rolling
thunder this time the bash comes through they take down malek and over towards omar try pounds away
with a sharp shooter shop and amara cuts him down for chakram 15 0-6 still just crushing it 15-0 in six.
Still just crushing it.
But the fight's making again. T2000's Agamins is putting in a bit of work to find the backline,
Sunuida...
Nearly gets him there and'm gonna get one more hill
yeah it won't be enough it's going to be fine call this you're not getting out of
this one oh they got the heels and i was ready to set up for that surround a burst
another kill or the timber still you just have to bend this here for racism
for sure four dead again ta 2000 versus world
versus an agis as well.
Skidder looking to go for this closeout.
Daedalus is online but it's just him.
Zul'en.
Zul'en and TI2000.
If he can get the 25 talent
and get the focus fire advances
and stuff like that,
he needs five focus fires in a fight.
Sure.
And it's still very difficult to see him being able
to do it by himself because his other two quarters
they have fallen off massively to sacrifice for him
full second set of rats taken out by falcons
ready to go for the final set top. And they're smoked in the back,
snaking and crit just playing very far behind
to be able to protect each other.
Skidder will be queuing up at to one defensive item in particular he is peeing
up the lincoln's next just in case of this chain stuff stuff but see if even
is going to be able to get it because this next fight could be the last one
35 minute wisdom room 20 seconds Amar has a fresh BKB
and he's it
he knows they're gonna be hovering around outside the base looking to set up for
the 35-minute wisdom route I might get caught by the client there
student children off so five acts straightaway Malik and two callus Oh
already stated oh he's stuck in the crystal normal has to bounce his way out of that
so it does mean that the space is there for the rest of psd quest two
successfully retreats just omar going down had to buy back they couldn't get
their wisdom rune if they really wanted it on quest but yeah
malrine will pack up to be able to grab it claim the high ground stay up here
take 2000 data was finished he's got a lot of damage if you T2000, Daedalus finished.
He's got a lot of damage if he gets the chance to
get on top of someone. The problem is that
as we've seen before, he has to find
Snaking first which he's been doing a good job of.
Yeah, he's been able to sneak in the back
the other issue is that his bkb's down to six seconds so he really just has
a small window until they just fully collapse on top of them
going for a big wraparound here. It's a good wraparound, and can they find a snake?
They seem to know.
A great band of snakes in the trees.
We're gonna know that they are out here hunting for them
because the creature in the base is snaking
out. Heads up
He's away! He beasted the tower mid
as well so he can look to join his teammates,
The base is getting hit so they know there's somewhere around here and now
they see the power shot, so they know exactly where they are.
Come on, let's try and pull them. They're going to look towards
Malik. Malik, he put himself
up here, right? He did.
I don't know if he's getting back down.
Nope.
He is dead!
And the base being sieged, they have to get back and defend versus these creeps.
It does have buyback Malik.
It does.
Onto the high ground.ater i'll be ready to push it for more still one minute left on this ageist poor skeeter let's get the damage done
with the opening bushwhack but'm just saying you're straight in he's able to burn through
him over the flame for a j20 000 tries to turn over the wall to apply some time with
mule stepped up into the sky noob can he get the gravity camp pulverizes there
they keep trying to come up and save the Vacuum Wall.
Dropped down there!
Bring Amar down over there!
The false promise!
Amar...
He's gonna be able to Timber Chain out of danger.
He'll be back up till pretty much full HP.
And indeed, the heals, the armor,
the regen is going to be kicking in.
He's going to perfectly fine to go again there you go straight back up to 100% HP
And PKB on TA-2000 it's gonna wear off in a second here
Maureen trying to get the angle for the rolling thunder
doesn't want to go too deep Maureen
Amar he certainly does
Straight back into the timber
chain he's able to cut through move also dead without buyback tier 2000 will turn
with the focus fire they've got any control that they have in a mile there but a timber
chain away malik retreating back to the fans
if at the glyphs they catch them the bugs as well malik's out no buyback for him gg is called team
falcons will take this game one pretty Pretty handedly, too.
Things accelerated too fast from that 10-minute mark onwards.
The game just became pretty out of control,
and Amar, get rid of his timber saw.
You cannot give it to him.
He just goes absolutely bonkers
every game he plays
at 19-0 on 8th.
The itemization,
I have to highlight,
he does...
you know,
he knows
every little trick
and everything
around the book.
You don't always
see the Eul's
kind of picked up
first. It worked beautifully and I think
it made NoobzGame super difficult to make any type of early movements
he couldn't get any catches. Yeah ended at 1-7-5, I mean it was always
expected to be difficult for him because they did have
to adopt this tractor in the job to pick it up first but say and my goodness
fifteen Falcons shut down that mid-time or beast didn't get to do much at all no uh he tried his best for the wind ranger but at the end of
the day this hero when the game starts to pull behind it's it feels almost impossible to solo
carry as a winranger, right?
Yeah. You're single target oriented but you also have just one focus fire in a lot of these situations
so you can pick one target but then afterwards it's very difficult to see how you do get the skills in
Yep overall Falcons...
It's a pretty perfect performance
and their supports
They tank almost every single one of the deaths
8 out of 10 are snaking in print
Yeah crazy stuff
Well yeah game 2
Timberstool's got a guy he's gotta go
he's gotta go if her margaret can play timber store again uh you might as
well pull it down we'll see and as i said yesterday we did our psd
quest turnaround the series after game one maybe that that happens here again today, we'll see
because for now Team Falcons they come in
and they stomp Game 1 against PSG Quest
Thank you very much OliPixel
and Fogged for that cast.
And of course, congratulations to Falcons
for making it happen here in game number one.
But we're used to seeing this from Quest.
We are, we've seen Quest have a pattern
of losing the first knock before they, you know, reverse
sweep and turn it around.
But I have to say that Falcons do seem like a different beast here because they gave Quest
the respect that they deserved.
They found out in 2017,
found out Nude's Sand King is tiny and his Snapfire
so Quest are going to be a little bit of a predicament
where they're going to have to adjust to their opponent's adjustments.
But what a clean game from Falcons,
from the landing stage to the rotations to the draft.
Yeah, incredibly clean game coming out
from Quest and with that
in mind, also let's say
what? Nevermind we don't get
Kezzer just yet. He's figuring stuff out.
Don't worry about it because I'm
really curious. We talked before the game started about how
we thought maybe falcons was going to play a slower game because they had
slower supports than normal it didn't really feel like it was slower
no it didn't at all.
I mean even though Jakiro and Oracle
are a slower moving support
they did actually have that Timbersaw on Amar
which is the hero
you do not want to leave in the pool against him
especially if your drafting heroes like
Primal and Sven.
But he really delivered.
When Sett Timber hit level 6, you had the Oracle playing behind him that J'Kyro helped
with the rune security mid which is also an added benefit of having Oracle.
And it really did feel like the Timber
Saw show for a while. Smooth
sailing for Falcons, honestly. Do you feel
like later on when we did have a team fight where
it seemed like, you know, we saw TH2000 killing basically everyone other than Amar.
Was there a chance for comeback or was that prolonging the inevitable?
I think it's prolonging the inevitable.
It felt very sad, we saw this
prolonging being available.
It felt very sad because
we saw what their draft could do
at a later stage in the game
but they have to
get to that stage
And that's actually one
of the really annoying aspects
of playing against Oracle
from behind
If you're behind against Oracle,
you're not going to kill
the target that you go on
and you desperately
need those kills
because we saw
in the Tormentor fight
on Radiant's side
once TH-Math
was TP'd in
with a BKB
what happened?
Committed the BKB focused fire Jekiro boom there was Oracle I was like, what's going to happen? What do you think? What needs to change?
I think the position five Sven.
If you're gonna go for it that's Sven flexed.
You have to take out this ATF 10-10.
That's a good thing.
But then again,
if you don't get in with a BKB
what happens?
Committed the BKB focused fire Jokero boom there is Oracle The position 5 Sven, if you're going to go for it that's Sven flexed.
You have to take out this ATF Timber
You have to respect it because
It is just so good versus the heroes that you want to draft
So just some adjustments here and there
So that there isn't a very strong wind condition through Falcons
Lane's forecast.
Do you think it is going to continue the trend?
The turnaround trend?
I mean, I'd like to see it!
I would very much like to see it because they have...
They've done it right?
They took out OG,
they took up Spirit after losing the first map.
Can they do it to Falcons though?
They're a bit more terrifying
I have to say.
It all would start with winning at least game
number two, so we'll see if that's going to happen
before we get there though we're first gonna see
what Kezu thought about this
first game
Thank you Shiva, I need to show you guys a lot of the cool things that Falcons do
that make this team kind of just work like clockwork at least when they're playing well
which in this game they did so if we can look at this first highlight
that i have here i want to point out the innate of Oracle
that you also talked about earlier on the panel.
You have it right here.
Just going to make sure not to block it.
So pay attention to Snake King's cursor in this clip.
What he does is, he moves it down
to show the rune
so that they know
okay, the runer's gonna be top out now
what we also need
to look at next
is how close Mal'Rin
is to level 6
He's only a few creeps
away from it right now
So what he does
is that he actually takes these creeps away from it right now. So what he does is that he actually
takes these creeps into the tower, he forces
them into the tower then uses the shield crash
to kill the creeps faster and right here
the last creep dies for him to get level 6
because they know the rune will be up top honestly noob in this case
he can't really do anything he sees the pango towards the very end get level six and this
is how they get their first kill because crit he also tp'd into the mid lane so
this was already step one of the game
to shut down the biggest tempo hero
of Quest being Noob's Trimelbiz.
In the second clip, I want to show something
that Skeeter does in a lot of games
and he does not get enough credit for his moves.
This is his perspective,
He's gonna instantly push out this wave as fast
as possible, and if we look at the minimap
it's not just him, it's also SnakeKing
that is going to go through the gate with him
And at the same time down bottom, it's a level 5
Timber that is running at the level 6 Windranger
This is only because they're communicating
and they know that look we're already
coming through the gate. This is like the strongest
time of a Windranger in the lane and he is the one to die. This is now the strongest time of a Windranger in the lane, and he's the one to die.
This is now the second move in the game where Falcons stop two
of the tempo controllers to help Amarr because Amarr as we all know
and from the draft,
he is going to be the key for them to win this game
At minute 1140 Amar gets
Eul's. This is not a super normal
Timing to like go smoke and make something
Work but I want to highlight exactly
What they do so there currently Sm's currently smoking with the use timing
to try and kill mid pay attention
to Mal'Rean and how he moves.
So he just goes mid is gonna do some stuff
and he walks back very naturally here
to make Nuke feel safe because at the same time his team is
walking in with the timber eels they walk in
they use their spells at the same time here
now skeeter comes in now marine rolls in and suddenly boom
within 10 seconds they're all five mid
They take this fight
and the problem for Quest in this game
is that this hero
This guy
Amarr The F
His Timbersaw
This hero's not okay
He counters this meta way too much
This Warcry This this Pipe,
he has pure damage.
He's going to get his own axe.
He's going to be unkillable.
He kind of deals pure damage.
So if you're Quest,
this hero has got to go.
You probably also have to think
about the Skeeter Weaver.
So next game, Mr. mr quest i think that martin
it's a no-go and with that we're gonna send it to my friend purge and this other guy jenkins We have a really close match going on here.
Thank you. Playing against... We have a really close match going on here.
Playing against Team Falcons versus PC Quest, it's the grudge match.
PC Quest plays us a lot in native Canada.
And guess what? I'm Amar Timber and you didn't ban me out, that's what I am.
Well you know what...
What am I supposed to do when you ban all of my mid laners' best heroes except for one?
And it's countered by Timber, huh?
What am I supposed to do?
Is Primal Beast really countered by Timber?
That's a sus opinion.
Think so? I think it's quite debatable actually what about that whirling death it's good against strength heroes yeah that's true but pyro beast
does a lot of magical damage we'll see what the panel has to say about this,
this argument,
this discussion.
It's not fair at a hockey disadvantage.
Just let it go in. Please. Gosh, why can't I ever be Falcons?
That's why you banned the Timbersaw. This is why we body blocked
you Quest and all of the qualifiers up until this point
and back to you
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I can retire nine times.
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I can see what happens. It's all about discipline and focus.
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Like...
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Is that a soul milk?
So how many retirements is that, like three?
Seb, that's your eighth retirement.
That's seven too many.
You're down to
your last one.
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not that you're probably
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Eh, your son will understand.
Music so We are getting ready for game number two between Falcons and PSG Quest.
And we have seen it before, PSG Quest the last two lower bracket games they played
They were able to eliminate og they were able to eliminate team spirit but the question is
can they do it here against their nemesis from the same region, Falcons.
Falcons looked on fire in game number one.
What will they bring in game number two?
I'm joined by Kezu Jenkins and Effie
And we'll have the draft for game number 2
On your screens momentarily.
What are you thinking, Kezu? Is it going to be another Naga ban?
Are Falcons gonna give PSG Quest a chance to actually play proper Dota?
They rule that Naga. I'm pretty sure... But also if you're quests a chance to actually play proper dota they
they will then naga but also if your quest they have adapted very well in the
last series that they ended up winning right in game two and three so
i'm hoping for them that you need to either take out the amara timber or have
a better idea against it.
You cannot run this like Pulse 5 Sven with,
like this with the same idea
you can not run it back,
you will lose.
They did also get outplayed
so maybe look at...
I saw Noob had the hero page open
you know sometimes when you lose your leg.
Okay next game they're gonna ban all my heroes
what's the next one on the dot?
What's going to make it easier?
How can i feel good and that's just
what I want them to do right now.
Talk about what's good and go for it.
I still like Primal Beast for quest i think we didn't get to see
that hero have a fair shot in that game
after everything started to go downhill
for them there was really no way for
them to take fights until they got bkbs
and by then it was too late but that hero really
is worth trying
because
it answers
a lot of
fucking support pool
very well
and it gives them
that early game tempo
that they've been winning
off of
when noob is playing mid
I like the timber first phase man
i feel like yeah it's too good you're about to be
potentially eliminated this is team falcons you know that they are
completely willing to up the stock in a
hero within a series. They've done it before many
times like I would not doubt
a first pick timber and it also means
that quest doesn't have to ban it
in the next phase
which I really would have liked Quest doesn't have to ban it in the next phase. Mhm.
They took out Primal, which I really would've liked
to see Quest run back.
It's a bit tough.
I think Falcons have given Quest
the respect that they have earned
in this draft but now it seems like
the strategies that they've been winning off of
the last few days just don't seem to exist.
So they might have to take a few steps back
to their plan and their group stage strategies.
You know, like their enigmas
and their broodmothers even though they haven't had
a good win rate with them. Yeah this is something that other teams
didn't do against quest, they did not give them the respect like even though
you beat the primal last game
You know you want pango, you you just ban it it makes sense if your quest yeah i
i agree with mira they're gonna have to look for some other heroes that they've
won with before
i feel like pangol is already kind of good at least against some of these like it's
good against brood that's good against enigma
of course sven is great and good for them that they did take out the timber
because this hero he smashed his hero left right in center
last game.
Yeah I don't think the...
The other like timber replacement that Falcons has been picking
Has been the Tidehunter
More so just to have a hero who can stand in front And deals with creeps. They'll pick it
against Chen or Bruling,
something like that. I don't think
it does the same thing against Sven that the Timber
does. That is the one hero that
destroys these melee strength heroes especially
the ones they can be flexed between five and one like necro on a prior patch
would also be that hero but necros just not good and also not in a more hero so
take this one out this is the one cheese they can use to own this fan yeah
definitely glad to see the adjustment this game i'm just wondering what hero quest want
to build their drafter on now because they want to keep the flex open and a lot of what
they've been running with is already gone so maybe they just go back to kind of building around malik
because they have built dropss around Enigma,
they've build drafts around Beastmaster.
You're playing against the Pango but maybe you can try to just get a really good
Beastmaster pick here to catch Falcons off-grid.
Yeah I could absolutely see them like look for Beast.
I think heroes that are on my mind right now is like
for both teams but especially Quest they're picking out of phase.
Weaver very good if you don't ban it high chance Falcons will take it.
Beast is very good for you on quest something else
you could do
is look for a later pick of a TA.
TA would make it harder for pango to go into the offlane
and look like a higher damage type hero for a TA 2000 as well
And it would work well with your Sven 5
so these are some heroes that should be circulating
in the brains right now Mr. Jenkins
And the Doom is still available as well
both teams really enjoy playing this hero
they've even first phased it uh it was second phase banned in
the previous game that here just has so many options because you can sell items for 90 of
the golds so there's a lot of builds that you can do, it's a pipe
buyer... they've had Earthshaker!
That is unusual!
It is something Noob has played in POPs
so maybe there's something about some pango-earthshaker matchup?
I mean Quest just needs heroes that allow noob to carry
his like bring his two supports with him run as three and take the ball with them yeah and malvin
is uh also an earthshaker expert so he will know if this is just the pango answer in the mid lane.
Can I steal that Weaver?
Yeah, I like that a lot.
Especially because it can be flexed between all of the roles, carry supports.
Doesn't reveal anything.
Yeah and your draft is very open now with your Spun
and Reverb because either you can go carry
or support
Yep yeah
And then you still have the option to run back
the Dark Seer because quest have
played sudden ass position four with dark seer before so it's not even relegated to a five in
one flex that's a 5-1-4 flex but they really do give away the well wood wink obviously potentially and the crystal maiden
that they ended up landing out last time i think we'll definitely see the hoodwink yeah uh
crystal maiden would be interesting because i do think that Sven and Weaver are both skirmish heroes.
They're not like team fighters by any means, they like to take these small fights with a 3v3 or 3v4
And then also they take long
duration fights. And Crystal Maiden
name a better support at taking
these really long fights
or spells of such low cooldown.
I mean, I could see something else maybe on the line if they feel like CM's a bit too squishy.
You can go for an Eng at least early on. They'll just go with the CM kind of some bread and butter stuff.
Maybe it's also their thinking ahead of what heroes are coming out for PSG Quest.
I mean, I am now wondering what kind of heroes they want to jam.
I feel like if you were super confident and you wanted just show your cards
You could go ham and do some beast TA
maybe you'll feel that now is too hard to lane into cm maybe
you do something else i'm not really sure where questers are gonna take this i still think they
can run back the dark seer though now that you see this stand. That's not
a support that defends itself very well
when you have two heroes running at you with Iron Shell.
Yeah, I agree.
You can Frostbite
their creep that's Iron Shell, but with a Sven in lane or Weaver,bite that creeped its iron shell but with a spannon lane
uh we're a reefer honestly that's not bad with an ion shell it's like position four
uh cm doesn't do much against a hero with an eye don't i have a problem
with the darks here but it's only about the closing pick of Falcons which is 18 Troll.
I think it makes Sven carry a lot worse.
So what if you Dark Seer plus Razor preemptively for the troll?
I can see that!
Like Dark Seer with a pick that is good against the troll
i'm definitely on board but if you don't
i think you're kind of throwing the draft so quest obviously
should have this in mind they know what's up there's also the doom and uh beast master options that we talked about
i think having hoodwink plus cm sports should dissuade beastmaster a little bit because
that's just a lot of magical damage and range poke.
A lot of means to kill him and lock him down early on.
Someone else speak?
Because I only have bad things to say about Rubik.
I don't mind the Rubick here,
especially with a Doom you're going to do fairly well in lane
you have the ability to kill CM
lift into Do Doombringer
AoE and run her down.
I do worry that the carry
counterpick is going to come off from
Falcons here, and you see delaying
like that reveals other than the Weaver and Sven
because I suppose the Weaver could be five.
This does reveal all the roles for Quest
but they're going to have to do it at some point so...
And I liked the Rivet here
cause I think this is, you know Quest they here because if they lose this game,
they're out.
They pick Omar's best hero.
This really is his best hero
or one of his best heroes
that he has excelled at
throughout his career
and maybe you don't have the most clear-cut
steals so far but even stealing a frostbite is incredibly helpful i also think it's a lot easier
to steal a rolling thunder than it used to be because people are using shield crash earlier on so you can have
value with that too. And because
you see the crystal maiden, you know that Rubick
can out trade her online and it
can do a really great job at running down heroes
with the doom right? The only issue is like maybe they go ursa or
something and they just beat up the gym that's what i was thinking i could see maybe a ck as well
but to like i'd like to do my lot rubik to me has looked like the hero goddamn.
I mean, this is a Penta Skeeter classic from five years ago.
Yeah it is!
Talking about CK and Ursa,
I think Weaver Sven opening blocks that because if you play the Ursa
then the Weaver's going to be carry. If you
play the CK, then the Sven's going to be carry. Those are two
one-to-one counters. So they go with something
completely out of left field here
that is honestly very good in this game.
You can't doom a Wraith King, he just respawns.
This is the ultimate counter to Doom.
It's just not
the hero that it once was when the facets patch came out the uh the facet that puts
the curse on you was doing like way too much damage and the hero was s tier and it got nerfed
but to be honest i feel like it fell off a lot harder than it probably should have.
And maybe that's also because some of the other carries people discovered were better or they got buffed
but I do genuinely think Wraith King is still a fine hero.
We've seen Falcons run this Wraith King is still a fine hero? I mean, we've still seen Falcons run this
Wraith King. Not this tournament but the last stream
they still did play a lot of it. It's a Skeeter
specialty. Now you have a double Sunlane
in CM plus Wraith King. The one thing
is that the Spectral Blade facet and the Skeleton
Facet, everybody's taking this Spectral Blade but Doom actually lames incredibly well versus
Wraith King if he doesn't take the skeleton army like in the past
Wraith King was a double counter to Doom because not only did he
counter his doom, his ultimate but he also beat him on lane because
Zoom had no way to kill the skeletons. But now Doom's laning stage versus Wraith
King is really good actually if he takes the spectral blade
facet like it gives him that net worth advantage to maybe get
a level advantage to get the first kill off of doom
and generally people do pick still the spectrum right now thank you although
the last that I checked
the Skeletons
still go to the target
that gets Wraithfire blasted
and so that Facet
actually had a pretty
decent win rate
and some people
were picking it
but I don't know
if they fixed that
in a letter patch
or like a hidden patch.
But that one, I do remember people saying it was kind of underrated.
We'll see what he's going for in this game in particular.
But we're on to our last ban here for falcons one more hero to ban
and it will be overall last pick going the way of psg quest so they can decide what they want
to do in including with their flexes because we still don't really know what's
happening with our spend and then waiver. We got myth heroes banned out, although Dragonite
could be considered carry as well.
I'm not sure what the Amar hero is here,
to be honest.
But I would assume at least that your Pango
was going mid. I feel like it's most likely
an Amar hero but I have a
hard time pinpointing which one.
Slark!
They haven't lost with offlane slarks, have they?
No... Okay this...
I feel like you go Weaver carry Carry now, based off of that.
But even if you do that...
I didn't think of this hero in terms of when we were talking about Timbersaw countering the Sven
because if you flexed the Sven from five to one,
you're still gonna own him as a support or as a carry.
Slark gets the same thing.
If Sven is a carry,
Slark just hits this Sven and he owns it
cause then Sven's not going to farm
to get a bunch of stacks
sven can't trade with you if he's a five either that's a slark
i actually really like this but we've seen as miran said earlier
we've seen these sequels put the on the offlane if they need to.
So you think Rubick and The Weaver versus Slark
but then I do think that you're running a Sven plus a Doom
And that's a bad lane against
a CM plus Wraith King. I think CM, Wraith King
will own that so like this pick really forces
Quest into a bad position
I think that Weaver plus Sven actually
should be fine like Like, they shouldn't
really get run over. I mean,
maybe they slightly lose that lane but if
they don't play over-aggressive, it's
okay. The thing about this Flark though is
if it doesn't win the lane, now Doom has a really
good Doom target that he didn't have before because he was playing against Wraith King.
So now his game becomes a little bit more clear cut.
You deal with the Slark and you deal with the rest of the team.
But then new Puck comes out in the very end,
a lot of his heroes were taken out
and this is what's left
but you have the dream coil now for the pango,
you have the backline jump
with your signs for these hoodwinks
and these GMs in the back.
It's not as explosive, and as low cooldown
as I would have liked to see it but it's
the best pick that was left for Quest.
Do we believe in them?
Kenzo do you believe in PSG Quest for this game too?
I believe with absolutely 200% more than the last game.
Okay!
I still think they're a slight underdog when it comes to me
in terms of the draft,
Yeah
I will say that they are slightly outlaned and
I don't like their three man ball as much
They still can clutch They have coil into maybe you
can break it with the lift if you place it well
And do stuff like that but I do feel like Falcons
have a little bit of an upper hand
Into their early moves on what they can do on the map
But this is going to be way more competitive game than last game because last game was not fair.
I'm gonna say that I believe in them Jenkins and Cheever and Kazu because this
is what they did the last two series.
They lost the first game,
they won the second game.
Let's see it again.
Yeah, counting them out here
would be just insanity.
I really do think that they can do it.
It's new puck as well.
This is one of his favorite heroes.
The guy goes 30-0 on this in terrible games it's a fine
puck game but i think amar has also played slark and much worse games and absolutely puffed off
i think it's going to be anar versus Noob special in this one.
An Amar...
Oh, an Amar special versus a Noob special?
Yes.
What you're saying even though they are not on the same line.
Let's see if either of those players can really pop off
and there is game number two elimination on the line before we head into the game though, we're going to hear some words from coach
Axel.
Hey, how do you feel a good draft one?
I feel better than first round but not super happy about it.
What are you worried about is that the weird heroes?
I worry about Wraith King against Doom.
I think he's really good.
Who against Doom? Wraith King against Doom. I think it's really good. Who against Doom? Wraith King against Doom.
Yeah, because you can't doom him right?
It's more about laning.
I think Wraith King is very strong on lane against Doom
With the skeletons or the spectral blade?
Of course with skeletons.
Okay, what do you think about the Slark offlane?
I mean we played with Amar before on Ballymage and Slark was. So I don't think it's like something insane,
It can for sure work
And I'm not sure that's going to work this game
but it's not bad
What do you think about your draft as a whole?
Ignoring what there is Do you feel like it's cohesive
and you generally got what you wanted?
I think it's all about who's gonna play our game better.
If we get momentum with our carry
with Puck
It should be easy.
Do you think it's difficult to come back once
you're behind from those early mistakes
if you lose momentum?
I think so. I think Pasha exists
and their heroes as well.
It's really hard to play from behind against work, usually.
All right. Well, thank you for joining me in good luck.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Here we go, ladies and gentlemen, get ready to get into game two between Team Falcons and PSG Quest.
Let's see. Can PSG Quest have a bit of a better shot here in Game 2?
What do you make of this, Hogg with the drafts done?
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Looks better as long as they can do well
on these lanes.
I think that's
the important thing
to look out
and talking about
the lanes,
it is going to be
not going for
the skeletons
so let's see
what effect
that does have.
I don't think
Skeeter,
I feel like he
doesn't ever whenever I've seen him play it
so he will have that Spectral Blade still very
strong in the lane and in the game versus the Doom
in particular. And of course Amar with his
all chat again saying thanks for
giving me my signature hero again. You know, the Siggy as they all
say. Yeah there's too many of them that he does have
as he does get the Slark versus
Sven and Weaver Lane if they do
end up sending it up there which they will. Let's see how
they're going to be able to handle it Yeah, main just have to go better in particular
because if you do fall behind
you heard from the coach there already
that gotta be careful versus this hard hero
but you start falling behind
you lose all your vision and things are problematic
trying to deny their ward and they walk unless what you don't do could doing his
part you know this is one of the other ones that we know but yeah he can have a solid game on would
you like to see him on it. It was very clear through the draft
that Falcons didn't care about
Puck at all. They have absurd physical
damage and sometimes Puck even if there's
some type of lack of disables
when you have this much physical,
it can be a bit difficult
and literally everybody
provides quite a lot of it
so we'll have to see
how that goes down.
Mal'Rin also...
There's so many things
to talk about from Falcons
because it feels like
everybody always just shines on so many Beast Heroes. They got so many things to talk about from Falcons because it feels like everybody always just shines
on so many of these heroes.
They got so many specialties,
but I did in particular want to...
Since Amar kind of overshadowed everyone
on his Timber,
Maureen and Skater played unbelievable
in that last game
on this Pango and Weaver combo.
Maureen's been giving that Pango again to first pick
they snap it right out.
Let's see.
Magic has been there the other days for
PSG Quest where they lose game one pretty horrifically,
but then game two and game three
they make the comeback happen. I think
the top lane in particular should be better. Even
though they did give this a Mars Slark,
this is a lane where the Warcry's quite effective, and yeah we do
see that pango 4-0 of course for him
but yeah this is where the Warcry can be very effective
because both these heroes are majority of that physical
damage while last time it was all magic damage
in the lane that was just kind of destroying them so
we'll see if they can actually do it because i've just seen amara also just win a lot
of these lanes when perhaps he shouldn't is they do have the century down at the start
he actually did not be one of the century immediately
now he will but they did get three extra hits on the weaver because of it that's for that sark
it was important to it's always that sentry war when you're playing versus the weavers
i do log with that we we get to see some Skeeter breaking now?
This is one of those carries that a lot of teams don't really care about
want to play right now in the patch
quite a different vibe to
a lot of these carries that are
kind of top picks right now but Skeeter quite a different vibe to a lot of the carries that are
kind of the top picks right now.
But Skeeter,
he's always happy
to bring this hero in
when he sees a chance
and I guess with this job
they sort of see the doom
and Skeeter is already saying
hey, it'll be nice here
and raid the king. Yeah, no, absolutely.
I mean, like you said, we haven't gotten to see it as much because
some of these other heroes are just too darn strong and they've
been giving the Weaver a lot. And so now we'll see how
much he can make work with this one because it has
it has faltered. I think one of the two times that I saw
recently, let's see if he can make it work
and then of course we do have to talk about the other one
Omar playing Rubik
you know, we've seen this hero
have some success from Thompson in the mid lane but overall
the support position it has not been having a good time even if you on paper you're looking
at wow these are amazing spells for some reason he just falls flat okay but now it is almost
yeah i was gonna say you don't mind Omo.
At least Omo in the past has given us some good shows on his Rubicks.
Yeah, there's something about Rubick right now that I really don't like as a support.
It just feels like it doesn't...
It never is able to actually get one of some of these good spell steals and provide
that kind of old bang that it had even versus these jokero's that are popular
and stuff like that but let's see if omar can work his magic so far top that is the Kill worth is magic.
And you'll see, so far top...
That is going to be a fine fear for Amar but let's see if they can ever get aggressive
because yeah the warcry does feel very effective versus the physical combo
bottom line right i get the setup onto
the crystal maiden good quality blocks
here from skeeter and a red fire blast
trying to stop malik from getting in on
top of snake king they're doing nice
down here on this side of Quest,
great trades Omar just beating on them.
This is probably actually the best thing I've seen
from the Vrubix has just been in that laning phase
how much they were able to provide
if this harassment just with that range plus that fade bolt
constantly.
Will he be able to get some nice spell steals?
Will he be able to make rotations?
We'll have to see. Something I do always want
to point out also is the
mid-laner combo
with the two supports,
the damage that can be provided from the two supports in this
instance on PSG Quest is a bit limited
while on the side of Falcons it's
a lot especially because the pango just provides so much so i would say
the three on the side of falcon is quite a bit stronger than the three that comes out from inside
of psg quest when those games come around the six minute power room in particular, as you saw
he was a 4-0 record. He was an explosive force
in that last game to kind of
dictate the pace of things with Amar
He'll be able to do that again
Oh the Marr, he'll be able to do that again.
So far... I mean, the field as well.
Would you imagine Skeeter's going to be dying?
Why is it still sort of disarmed at rate?
It's cool.
Well, no, how all right first month with the college
to close took it.
So that's even hoping for that himself. Yeah give it to the's it. He wasn't hoping for that himself!
Yeah give it to the Weaver.
Doesn't matter he sees us and just finds up here
and it is important to get that first blood yet.
The Warcry definitely coming into play
they're both sitting at pretty much full HP there's no harassment that the Hoodwing can do yet at this point to be able
to push them out of it.
Yeah, I don't know.
Actually, I'm not too certain. I'll check a couple
things because yeah, it's either phase armlet or
phase radiance or something like that could be i mean we'll have to
see which one he does when we go let's get her eating a ton of harassment here almost gonna bring
him down i mean is it possible even again where you can go for like the arm that deaths and play
for these the armor reduction i was kind of thinking about it because they have
that pango we just don't see it as often maybe there's a possibility right now we'll see i
just haven't tried to see too much of this
right thing anymore to see what the difference are built in so let's see skater is the master
of itself i feel like on that radiance has probably been it's an expected moment
pop they'll get the catch, another sentry
gets placed down, good job from Kukalos to
instantly get rid of that one so they're securing this lane
nicely for TA-2000. Amarr is getting
farm but yeah
making sure they can keep these sent essential control to get that free farm.
They might have a chance right in my head.
It's not going to be quite enough for Spectral Blade damage.
Not enough almost though.
Might kill him but indeed yeah falcon showing that they're
not afraid to trade back with them on this bottom line fencing skeeter he's
going for early itemization since he's playing versus the strong
doom that we've seen so far he just goes for Double Bracer even as a carry,
which I think we'd been seeing
a little bit more of it when you're like
a Span or something like that
but yeah, this is an interesting approach
to fight back his top.
Trying to move towards MR
but Critline very quick with the Bushwhack, yep and he's just going
to get that regen going so let's get back up
to full pretty much here.
It's very difficult to force Amar out of this lane.
Lane is definitely looking much better than last time though, doing really well. I'm all out this lane.
Lane's definitely looking much better than the last time, though.
Doing good in at least those two fronts.
Farming nicely on all three.
Just got that pango from Alreen.
He was explosive last game
and they played around him beautifully, so...
So far he's already off to a hot start getting the six by
A decent margin ahead of Noob.
Contesting pretty much every single last hit
Trading damage very well as
well we can move relatively low
to get a bottle refill of course but you get the room amplified damage from
mallory quite damaged from Mallory. The dream rune.
Definitely have to watch out on the puck.
You're very squishy versus all this physical burst that a pango can provide, so does have to be careful
with those rotations do come out but so far
fine they're not that was the top he's got no way out there we can just run him down
on the tower and ma will die for it get out he will not they'll
be able to get them through it so they'll lose their carry but
they get two kills in return same time down bottom malik he's gonna go for the tp up
nice moves so yeah if they do lose that weaver which is unfortunate
but the quick tps that come in will be used to net them to two kills so
it's pretty good and the weaver was already getting some solid free farm
so that does happen i think dukalsu is a little bit far away to protect him
oh but they did did they double tp up here the sven walked but he's got a tp for this wisdom
rune so otherwise they're gonna lose it mal green's coming over noob's even going to rotate
so well let's get stopped gets pounded here comes noob
i started marilyn coming in he's got good timing ah he's not able to get it though noobs have to
get the jump and secure the wisdom move for themselves they'll tap the kill effort say
the dream calls locked down onto both of them but they're still having a rundown mallet
all right gets taken out i'm not able to capitalize there off the back of the dream coil quest we'll try to get snails
a trader from maureen's still in the area with yam damage so you need to play careful yeah i can't chase that
nice heads up move from noob i love that he made that move that would have been devastating if they
ended up getting that wisdom rune stolen so good rotation over yeah seeing a big difference between
the weaver and the ranking at the moment here about a thousand gold ahead even though he
did die that time up there he is having that free farm on the weaver
i'm still waiting to see what skater queues up by the way so haven't just seen it yet okay
a blood grenade they did miss the bugs that is true if that matters they're getting in under the top it doesn't they kill them anyway baseball comes in from omar they take grip down so
continue to get the majority of kills here in this early game psd quest and important for them too you know they
have to do well in this early game because they don't want to fall behind versus that slark
early so far pretty good stuff infinitely better than last time arcane rune does get
denied there by snaking maureen he wants this obdward i'll get a gun on himself no coil just yet
that's if he's coming in as well now it comes up
well maybe split second from him.
Maybe perhaps he gets an opportunity there in Skinner.
Alright looks like Standard.
Ducalus looks like he wants to try and make a move down here.
He has it level 5 so it's a three point stun killing the wraith at this
point not likely he also is now hit six but they can't find the cm and they're even looking to
make the rotation with omar so three heroes coming down but maureen is smoked
scouted they might just go for it anyway good lift straight ending on the crossfire you're
gonna try and dive to for this one marion ready
with a rolling thunder go straight up it always matters time comes down onto heroes from psg quest
second round to go here with reincarnation skilled so we can kill them off the second
time at five of them they should
have a pretty solid chance doing some marion johnson with the shield crack
he's gonna get called by the dream cross dito he's going to be going down
and marrying fighting anything in return inside the river as well two thousand
starting fight against
snaking but the first flight back up into the bush right they hold backs t-2000 momentarily
with the streams and back up chases down snake king and now maybe even looking over the walls
cretin mallory i love that they've lost brought five
here they saw malarine coming in there like just bring an extra one maureen he's going to try
to get a kill onto malec but there's so much backup malik it'll get caught by the bush
flag does get killed off with his lost crit.
They take down Maureen as well,
Maureen has got one more Swoosh but gonna get back over to tier 1 TAS
He's back at the Wraith 5 now, done for Carlos
Maureen surviving getting a shield crash off again
they can't quite kill the panga and he's gonna
get the bottle refilled right away too so you can stay down here i mean malvin just jumping into
five heroes not really with fear since he gets the big shield crush and is he going to
get the power ruin RNG as well?
Oh, he will. It's a regen as well
beautiful stuff there for the pound guy
Malorain continues to have a flawless opening
to the game 2-0-1
Treads double bracer, He hits hard too that physical damage since
he is universal and you see him just withstand
a flurry of spells even though it's 5
heroes from PSG Quest, he somehow
survives and gets 2 kills
out of it. We've seen this chase,
they get crit
but getting Mallory in was really what
PSE Quest were hoping for
on top of what?
Of course already a pretty nice fight
from them taking down the likes of Skeeter
but Skeeter back in action
and uh help out make sure that not only that Maureen survives he gets the space to walk
out with a good pick up an extra kill back their way Falcons taking down Ducala. They
did bring five heroes so
they didn't get this kill but you see that amar he just sits top is able to
get that farm as well during that downtime so it's a good move
for ps2 quest that perhaps ends up with that over extend and punishing them a
bit there since they did bring everybody
and not able to finish off that Pango.
Can they finish off Malrean?
No, and this game it is going to be
a bit of a different build coming out from him
since he doesn't want to have this like blink dagger he wants
to have his answer to the puck he's going to go the orchid route that we've seen a couple times
nice steal from omar may you ride on never this is probably the best early game spell
that he's gonna be able to find so hanging on
to this one is going to be very strong for the next few moments on this rubik three points in
that frostbite so far omar is 3-0 and 3. so he's making some beautiful stuff happen as this rubik
you get skitter
body blocks i still won't Body blocks. Skips, locks!
Well a backup's coming in but indeed they've got him let's see if they get punished for this.
Falcons...
Now brings it again.
...for the rolling thunder we're gonna go straight over to Walter Martin
20 thousand standing his ground
look at him trying to bring down
snaking as well but he's back up he's diving in underneath the tier two tower
you can get the kill the coils up they're locked down this time they should have a
solid chance of killing him off
as marion's surrounded they bring them down they've found three
this time he's turned up and he's ready to try and fight back acorn shot bouncing over
the wall to carlos am i already chase down pounce still a call out
from 15 you know quite close in this is the PSG quest that we saw from
the other day from yesterday particular bringing five heroes but now get it out
skeeter you can find on the retreat he's going to get the setup onto
dakalis takalas and try and hide in the tree line allow spectral blade and the acorn shot
will take him down so they'll fight back back, Falcons, but indeed overall the fights
continuing to slightly favor that PSG
Quest allowing both Noob and T8-2000
stay in this top spot in Network.
I love how you just see five heroes turn up that's at the tier two
of the regular side and they are the ones to actually bring five a bit faster amar
he wants to wait because he wanted to wait for his diffusal blade as long as possible
before getting involved but when they're diving down deep...
He had to go up.
...he had to, yeah.
So he does get one or two of these kills clean-up.
Snaking also lived I believe a lot longer
than they anticipated with that Seeds of Serenity
being dropped down.
It's not the squishiest of crystal mage—
still squishy, but not the squishiest of Crystal Mates, still squishy but not the squishiest
of when you are able to get this neutral item
Now they're looking to fight back so three man smoke
They've got the Rolling Thunder
They want to make the first move because Quest they have made
some nice ones in the last few moments first
malik as is midas he's going to step straight into them
they're having to start this off pretty easily with the frostbite push back rolling thunder
on a sharp job that's gonna to be quick easy malik gone
because push going and maybe start to try threatening the tier one tower down here
see what sort of reaction they get out psc quest probably gonna look
to react here.
They have Coil
at the ready.
I believe every single
one of these coils,
they want to look
for some type of fight
to be able
to enable Noob
because Omar
has a good spell still.
Yes, he still
has the Shield Crush
so the other one
is probably
the secondary best
spell that he can have in this game
if i they go for now ps request they're going to be very aware of
ma turning up with the defuser they got to get their wisdom room too so crit he's already on
his way to try to sneak it and yeah they're gonna bring Malik as well so Kret
may be caught in a place where he can't get out
So was able to make any sort of play
to get the pick up on the Wisdom route
He got it!
He's able to step in and get it
Sure he goes down but it's a job well done
TF2000 got the other one also so job well done from him as well that they will go for that one-for-one exchange
but now team 2000 they might be able to punish him nice time lapse when there is
it back around this two area but...
Might just TP.
...should be too slippery to fly.
Yeah.
Trees out with the Shikuchi TP.
20000 gets away.
That's TP all the way back at base.
I thought he might TP to one of these other towers
but doesn't mean it's going to take him a little bit of time
to get back out.
As they're looking to pressure bottom,
should be able to finish off the tower on PSG Quest,
but seeing the similar move out here from Falcons
and as you mentioned, Amar,
he's got the defusal blow.
So I'm definitely going to see him get more and more involved in these next upcoming fights.
Probably TPing faster.
Lane Harmony there. Top and bottom. Ske it's good i what if he does commit for this but he's got
the blimp you though sorry i mean i don't mind it because you have this airplane slot right yeah so
you can be this be more focused on
the initiating
and he has...
Because you know
that you've essentially
got the true carry
on the offlane
with a Mars Slark
and Mr Fusal
Maguslayer build
he's going for
And Malrini is
on the pango
which he kind of
carries from the mid lane
on this Panga line and he hasn't Orchid.
So it's a throw where he's also able to do that lifting as this
Pangolier if Skeeter wants to sack himself a little bit.
Yeah because the Blink's going to feel perfect.
It'll be that follow this game considering the draw
if they get the orchid on the puck to get a blinks done the puck is dead in
every single instance so i can understand why he does want to go that
round we'll see him go the ewells to be able
to counteract this orchid
so you've got stakhan it
do med see if they can survive here without having a dispell
versus that annoying orcid that's up it's hard to start this fight with the
numbers that falcons have here psd quest can't really set anything up from this position not
quite yet malik you said he would go for the midas build i'm keeping tabs to see
if he does do some type of selling shenanigans but without a blink dagger a little bit more
difficult for him to just waltz in and get this doom now i mean we'll just get another power runes and check how many he's got
done quite a bit again this time around not every single one of course but
feels like the majority again even though he doesn't have an Oracle this time.
Okay, making the move bottom
He sees Noob. Noob has to
be very careful here. The Rolling Thunder's
coming in. The Orchid's there. They're going to get the silenced.
Jumps forward, push backs in
Tier 2000 Wolf Tent up to try and fight
back but Noobz already gone.
Malveen has a shield run so he's not at any fear
whatsoever down here. Just second the puck showed,
Malvin immediately TP'd behind him.
He knows that he has to seize the opportunity right now
since he has the Orchid and the puck does not have the heals
So get one of those big kills
Can PSG Quest find one they want to die
they're gonna get the glide net beyond the two two they're able to set up for
the doom he got the shield crash off though is
he's pretty tanky on the street so catch him with
the stun but backup comes in
he's not going to die under these this doom he's going to be perfectly fine
mallory and quest they've got to get out of here
he got it off just just in time he doesn't take any damage
plus the shield road of course so literally it doesn't take anything
there and that's some cooldowns used noob dies doom gets used momentum shifting
maureen an absolute menace the first pick pango so far running rampant speed up more fragile of fraction has that blink dagger we'll be
going back
for the Radiance after it.
I do like it though quite a bit here because it just provides some of that extra little catch
and now we do see a blink coming out from Alec so he does have
the way to get easier land to do, but it's 90 seconds on cooldown.
Falcons with a night time
they're going to look to play around Amar
with that Night Vision on the Slark
and then I'm gonna try
take out some of this vision as well that psg quest does
have and amari he's pinging immediately he knows there's some ward it's a sneaky one yeah that was
a hard one to find.
But he's going to start buying sentries even for himself, which is so valuable as the Slark
to be able to do stuff like this.
Absolutely! Buy them all!
Well maybe don't do that, your sports get bad.
No just let them buy it for you,
it's even better so
hey how is that better then they get the golden xp when you de-warp
yeah i'm a support player right not better for this slark
i don't want to see him letting anyone buy in the centuries. Buy his own, get that reward yourself.
They'll find Omar so for the first time this game he is brought down
He's had a pretty flawless performance so far on the Rubik does get picked off immediately once KriT has
The Atos they are able to find him reflection 10-12 falcons kicking up in power
and maureen looking for these kills ta2000 he's tanky with the 2k HP when he is on strength treads
But this Orcid is still problematic so we are seeing him queuing up a kind of unorthodox item build so far
We will see if he does commit more the man on the weaver for this spell
yeah i mean it's sort of that nice balance right between stats and as you say some defensive
potential with the dispel yeah uh but But sometimes it can feel a bit
awkward, you know? It's kind of a question of
would you prefer just to sort of start up with
the Dragonlance and get the BKB and just have something
a bit more standard on the Weaver?
I think that might be the case that he ends up committing because
the problem is like yeah you'll be okay first with the orchid but then the rolling thunder
is incredibly effective versus you get frostbite and suddenly you're only removing one of them so
we'll see i agree i don't know if i'd be super up for the man to this scamp.
Yeah it just feels like there's too much AoE in these.
A lot of stuns right?
You're gonna get caught by something in these fights.
Yeah we'll see if he does commit for it.
Amar, he did find that one so the ward was taken out.
So yeah with that nighttime control and nighttime vision
they are looking to play around
They will be able to successfully go through this rush
Whenever they have pango
they like to accelerate things
with it ps request though everybody's farming so they maybe know that this is happening
everybody's just playing super aggressively on the lanes to get that extra farm
put that roshan now,
they have an Aegis on Mal'Rin who's had a pretty
perfect performance so far and he's got
a Blink.
Noob does
have a Dispel, so Eul's is finished
off. He'll be able to protect himself at least
versus that Orchid and does sneak himself an Amp damage.
A pretty big one he was able to find though, making it a lot easier for him to go for these
kills since his supports don't provide the most of damage.
Torment at the time
for the bug
stacking up.
He'll have to do this one easily
and he commits for it
so TA2000
is going to just go down
that route of the
Manta.
We'll see how it ends up
paying off.
We will, we will mean i'm looking forward to
being you know showing how yep how well it obviously a tf-1000 thinks it will work in
this situation at the moment you know his top net worth and uh every reason
to believe emery since he's all just trusted his choices here yeah
it can be a bit of a greedy choice if they're punishing the next few moments
hey should be going now definitely that's a lot of damage from these three.
The push going and
quite a bit I imagine with this Aegis timing
get the tier 2 at least in the mid lane
Falcons, Marine got
one of the best neutral items you can get on
the Pango especially if that's your tube does get
the orbit destruction as well too.
Incredible synergy with the lucky shot.
Let's see if to know that this is happening Maureen jumping in for it he's got the blink wait just a ton they'll try with the Rolling Thunder
but there won't be able to reach him. That's fine.
Are they going to look to punish this?
Rolling thunder on cooldown for 80 seconds,
can they gather and look for a smoke? I imagine
somebody is gonna call for it. It feels like are going to want to do something you know as the scaling
goes on as the skid gets closer to the radiance
this slot gets bigger and bigger there's gonna be
increasing amount of problems that pierce request will have to deal with down the line yeah i just
want to take advantage of some of these cooldowns and stuff like that but maybe not the easiest
with the lane positions at the moment since it's all kind of just at the river so can't
really sneak out to find anybody skitter
when do call us did they have the catch-up mountain he's does not
have the blink to be able to catch up to him so the calls should be fine
is this having a walk she sees him for
a split second i see them from skater they still want
to try and do something they've got the smoke up on the two of them
rolling thunder still on cooldown 25 seconds
what can they find
they have the stun i I believe stolen on Omar.
That's pretty difficult especially with Skeeter showing himself
at the front this isn't really a target you want to be going on
They see the support they might jump them trying to get the wrap around
they could lose some heroes here if they do just movements being matched with this age just trying to take
advantage of this timing as much as possible to put pressure on these towers.
And Skeeter able to play very confident
with just a blink Armlet, Talisman
of Evasion he's finishing off this tower
Closer and closer toward that Radiance which will make him a lot more potent in these upcoming fights.
The scaling feels pretty good for Falcons.
Sure does, Amar.
A lot of damage he's putting out.
If the Euless is used can Noob sneak himself away?
He's got a blink
but no Dispo up to Orchid Cactus now.
There's a Rolling Thunder coming for him!
Let's get the blink away.
He keeps himself hidden and I'llhyne. No matter whereabouts he is...
In the corner and will escape.
That's it done! And in the meantime, TIA2000 has been down here for about 2 minutes or so
He almost finished off this tower and his mantle is now coming
all right let's see if it's able to fight with him see if it's enough
to keep himself alive in the team fights yeah quite a bit of few things to dispel who said
just also tons of aoe so they're going to smoke off this timing and look for something
45 seconds until the ages comes to an end and rolling thunder as well too 45 seconds
until that will be up as well so they want to try to find an opportune catch right here
there's not a full glitening on crit so he's been farming up
the rubik's been running around looking for spell steals and stuff while crit
is just getting that farm snake we get an easy one to start things snaking he's gone but does
this support again catch anything else falcons they pull back with the rest of them and again it's nine
nine of the 13 kills are the two supports again i mean they do this a lot where they just end up
sacking their supports for the course to get that good advantage
and snae of course is the sacrificial land in most of these instances kills a kill
they can at least turn it into a tower here and now like we'll have a beat kicking so a bit easier for him to now
pick and choose the target maybe even potentially doom onto this pango in some
of these situations since he could just be tibby and pick one with the blink.
Falcons don't want to lose their tormentor, so we set up for it over here.
This is kicking off to be a very exciting game
once we do get
to these mid-game and late game timings initiations are going to get more and
more crucial nighttime has hit so for falcons every time they do have that
night time they're gonna probably look to at least control vision and control the map a bit. quest they want to be doing something the numbers are close but it can never feel good really
against falcons they do have some scaling stuff too but yeah it's triple scaling chords
this is way heavy on falcons they're just gonna have so many essential carries as the game goes on
i mean we have seen these pucks also work some magic but
it's gonna starting to so he's trying to start something they're forcing this fight
from now reading see that come fine noob there're disengaging pretty nicely here at the dome.
It's going to get dropped down
here, on towards Amar
they've got to chase the Slark out of the fight
they should indeed get this, go get Amar!
And Skeeter it. If he can get him twice with the set up here to take
him down the first time very nice catch that's gonna give some sort of crazy blinker we're
going to go down for seconds he doesn't try and chase after mallory but the bushwhack comes out
left behind surrounded by the world wall and indeed marion gone as well quest the patience pays off the fight is there
all three cores this time they do find him.
Beautiful fight, Malik.
Just perfect engagement from the Blink Doom
and a great disengage.
I mean, Mallory may be getting ahead of himself there
with the Rolling Thunder.
He gets punished for it.
That's a perfect opportunity there for PSG Quest.
Can they look for more, too? Look to pressure
this tower onto mid or look for one of these support dives.
Seeing
the circle drawn there from Falcons
probably being like, why are we fighting in this area
it was under award and they have that slark night vision so they got caught off guard
i know imagine if he's going to be cased in every fight right malik
he just always wants to find them off always doing the mark i mean it's
either one it's a mario pango i think neither one of these can be pretty beneficial if he finds
the opportunity but probably more so amore i think so you don't want to let them all run around
your sort of rampant around the team fights there's going to be a
an issue that really not too many people here is could deal very well with right doom
is absolutely the answer to stop this
Slark running away from a team fight.
That was a beautiful hit, and now them
having a gem, they can actually perhaps start
to control the map vision during these night times
and everything too since they did get that successful fight here.
Falcons perhaps gonna try to slow things down even more
trying to get these Lincolns in particular built up
to protect them versus this Doom but West
with a nice heavy hit there
And that was with that Manta timing.
And immediately now TA2000 is going to have the BKB
to be able to cover everything as well too so...
It's paid off. The green has paid off.
Absolutely he gets through that period in Alpha 2
then he's gonna be feeling great.
And I imagine what next? Now you
can consider going for that damage item
is gonna get the Shard first queued up.
Yeah. He can go down whichever route
he feels like
is the most comfortable
if it's a Daedalus
or whichever one
he feels like
is the best one
for this situation
probably the Daedalus.
But yeah
absolutely huge
that Falcons weren't able to punish him before this BKB timing.
Absolutely and yet just fighting beautifully around that ward control,
that ward vision so Karl-Marc is having a pretty darn good game on this Rubick.
4-1 in 10 hasn't been feeding I don't know what he's having a pretty darn good game on this Rubick. Four, one and 10 hasn't been feeding
has been finding good stuns
in control spells as well.
And they're smoking again
They have their doom
and they have full shivas now
Malik did sell the Midas to buy that Shiva.
So they have a pretty big item advantage now.
They absolutely want to go, especially how
last one went.
PSG Quest out on the hunt with the Smug.
What are we going gonna find?
Might just be a support. They will, but they're sweeping across Rush! Not up just yet Rush.
Not up just yet, but they'll be able to scout it and stay at least in the area
and control this vision in here.
They're about to quickly move down bottom stuff
to see if they can begin
to set up this area for the inevitable Roche.
Yeah, since it is going to be shifting
down there very soon so...
Looking like he was kind of stalking him
I think they caught sight of him for a split
second he's going to try and go for the tp is anything just don't fit in time there is there
with the yules the watcher it's all gonna be able to get another cat chair psg quest
continuing to build up the kills build up that lead 4k advantage now t80 000. and she looks
at her trying start a fire over towards the middle get caught by the rolling thunder and the rainfire blast well that's not a good chance
getting completely locked down does not get the chance to use the bkb there
only chance would have been to sort of pop it before he starts making
that play, but...
Just doesn't expect to just get 100-0 during the stun control.
No, it's a heads up play. I mean Malorine has done this so many times where he just instantly stops the Rolling Thunder
To be able to commit that extra damage, and it's enough.
Now with that kill,
Falcon is looking
to strike back even more so
perhaps get some aggressive vision
and try to control that map
even though its daytime
try to control a bit here.
That's a big find taking
Weaver out for a minute. They're going to smoke up and try to find something
anyway here since that Blink Doom is up
It's a bit risky though, fighting without
Tier 2000 unless they get like some sort of
perfect doom and spellcasting off in the team fight.
But they know this roast is happening,
so they don't want to give it up.
Sure.
They hear the yell.
Can they fight this?
Snake King's going to speed up the roast,
dropping down the freezing field.
Malik's gonna jump in
trying to assess his targets
with a BKB off first
and Carlos is gonna be focused down by Skeeter
being able to kill off
Snake King.
Carlos goes down
with a loop
to Carlos in return.
That was a coil used
and Omar,
I don't know if he's
going to be able
to get away.
Nice blink.
See there,
if I ever get the
blink off before
the blacknit connects Gliteneer connects.
So Omar should be fine...
Oh, he finds a courier!
Whoopsie.
Maybe not too fine because Skido and Kripp are going to keep on chasing Kripp.
Not gonna hit the sharpshooter so Omar will survive for now.
Back at the pit Malik is gonna jump in!
Drop down into 2-3? Oh, he does it! will survive for now back at the pit Malik is gonna jump in drop down to do you just boy does new gets the kill of these but it did the ages still to be
picked up by a mark he's doing up it's going to tick down pretty low on
Mallory and jump ball from Amara get the catch on towards the doom take out Malik
T2000 he's back in action. He's going to try and fight them
See if I keep his pop this time
He's not holding back when it pops immediately to try and continue the fight.
Continue the action, they give the cat trunk to Skeeter
He comes back up for the high ground
He's over the pats, gets the cat trunk to Omar
Double kill for Skeeter as they kill the Rubicon
I'm sure Omar is like why doesn doesn't my four-staff work?
But four-staff of course now versus Pounce
not working since it's a greater leash at this
point. So he just knows as soon
as he sees that Rubik jump in and Omar is able to just
jump in and yeah, the stats really started to build up 38 on him
noob got the last hit but he did he got that ages and he got
the banner so it was able to claim both it was very close to being a clutch
just put with the pickup
they could be able to have it to kill them off that's the age is gone and
again we're gonna serve a try for it back there to move the initial
debuffs he's got a count but indeed he's got nothing else to save himself maybe
that power is down surely not and indeed not he will go down so
gets the edge just runs down like maybe gets a bit ahead of himself
a little bit carried away, they punish it now
PST Quest is going to have Malik chasing down
and looking for more he gets the jump in onto
Snake King.
Cross bite to hold him back slides away here with
the shot. Looks like he'll get out should be fine but uh
yeah i'm up going down that's a big kill for them to get happy to them under their tier two there
yeah i'm surprised there was no tips or anything like that there to be honest because he was
super deep away from his team i guess
you just didn't expect him to have every single spell up again but yeah the coil was ready noob
catches him and so far this last big puck also he's getting away with pretty much everything
they left it till the end and he has not been
deterred from any of this high physical damage
playing around beautifully
They might have regretted
the lack of respect that they gave to the new puck
in the draft phase, ignore it and funny running out some
uh pretty surprising heroes right we have what like an earth shaker band
come out instead of what could potentially be a pump down we see this again from mamar
really pushing his luck there finding that close towards the town to be fair
he was one second away for maybe surviving because that crowd
wasn't about to be backed up so we're gonna get that pound something into the depth ground
with a little bit of region maybe it lives wasn't to be the case he goes down
and now psg quest they're back up in the push they take the tier two men the irons continue
to fly out noob now at a full octory back and forth we go 7k lead and yeah noob he's just been doing so much work
now he's gonna have extra spells to flurry out he's also i believe hitting that 20 talent so
the waning rift this spell is devastating this game as we've seen versus the pangol
in slarking a lot of instances since they don't have that immunity.
Now it's got a 7 second
with that ult turn, so
be able to reset in and out of the fights. Malik
will go back by the Midas again, use it
probably Sal, blah blah blah, so hope to see him keep gaining that gold
keeps seeing that lead go up for them and a power rune oh it's a beautiful one one of
the best you can get in the mid game for a puck
the cooldown is going to be ridiculously low on this waning rip and all his abilities
falcons very careful about their next few moves now starting to really slip behind.
They're gonna smoke anyway though, they're going to look for something find some type of opportunity to catch these backline heroes. But now at this point
they do have double ghost scepters so a lot
more survivable versus the slark in particular.
And the penguin. I mean, Ghost Scepter is a very good item nowadays.
Lose some rune? PSJCast will be able to get this one, and also I didn't get the point out before
but they were able to take away
the two wisdom runes earlier as well too
than everyone before that. They have done
quite a few of them so on top of having that
gold lead they have a significant experience advantage too
get away skater also going he's going for another orchid
so they just want to be able to have this because
i mean it is very effective versus both of these cores once the bkbs and stuff like that are down
but that is maybe gonna make them even feel a little bit better also for ta2000 so
skater also does find his 20 or get his 20 talent so he has that insane attack speed increase with the first science in at the stone pushback
not able to react quick enough that time round and that's what the gem on the ground he's out for 80 seconds oh and he walked up blind in
the gripper whoa maybe i mean in a game where up until that point it's been looking pretty clean for psg
quest you give a chance to the big mistakes it's a big one and it's a gem to the snark team
during night time all your words mean you don't really have
too many on the map anyway now they're all going to be gone and they give an amp damage to malvin
the first slip up from doing this game that really was um yeah i mean before they opened things up with the the awkward silence
we would have maybe had chance to blink or you'll check it again i think maybe he thought
that he was going to be the stars comes in
I'm pretty sure you have both blink and your note to make it flick was party Blake without
It was up boys. No, it was cool down
He would stick them out there so okay
You could have made a yield like that and tried for something i guess it didn't anticipate the sun
as you say when you're playing around that part of the map if you're gonna go there
you've got to be ready to anticipate anything at such a risky spot to be it's a big slip up like pretty
much the entire league that they did have now it just even though they have that 5k
it's a lot of time right yeah i think it's like at seven or eight okay oh no maybe you're right
and losing gem versus the slot team never feels good tf2000
does finish up data list he's very close to that 25 but yeah momentum shift again a bit here back
to even we go you can't make these mistakes against the T-mark Falcons.
No.
Because KriT is also getting that farm going.
KriT now has a BKB finished up on top of that Gleipnir too
so he's getting that physical scaling.
Double damage! Nope, does find the best neutral item he can get so he's got the timeless relic
that does get at least given that after that mistake that he does make
any other big neutrals that we've seen picked up weaver got a trickster cloak so
we'll be switching out between the tricks to cloak and the enchanted quiver depending on in
the fight situation but definitely wants i would imagine wants to get the 25
on ta 2000 before that next fight because it is a big spike for him with
that data so good you can just kind of one shot supports
in a lot of instances if they're not ready
my falcons nice find here as well always let me get that illusion room when
you're running irradiance be able to get some of these either side lanes pushed back in
very low cost skater does find the rattle cage a variant i mean i would say overpowered neutral
well just because of kind of the level of the amount of armor it gives you
that reverberant does a significant
amount of damage
in a lot of these fights
that kind of just
gets written off
so we'll try to keep
tabs on that one
as well too
as PSG Quest yet.
Now they're going
to wait,
they brought back
their gem
they're going
to look
at reestablishing
because they're
very scared about just the vision control that can come out wait they brought back their gem they're going to look to reestablish things because they're very
scared about just the vision control that can come out when they're playing versus lark sticking
together might look for a smoke move soon too do they have one actually i don't think
they have one left the psg quest does not
have a smoke
left i don't know what falcons either
does so nobody's carrying one on either
side Nobody's carrying one on either side.
Full Bloodthorn on Skeeter.
So, yeah, whoever gets jumped and in particular noob
has got to be so prepared
cannot allow himself
to get caught
into silence
and a stun.
I feel like you could see him
kill an a on this very soon i see he has the bkb cute but sometimes you need that
air just for the instant dispel so we'll see which one he does go down
the route of hello
yeah if he's ready to press his buttons,
which are 90% of this game,
he absolutely has been.
99%, in fact.
Give him a BKB on top of yours.
He should be pretty unkillable and at a higher frequency as well so that's the downside
of the undestroyed auto saves you but very long uh long down time between those props definitely
yeah i'm fine with either
I just want him to get at least one of these defensive
that net worth lead it's gone
down to 2k
A painful moment really there for Noob in the mid lane
It's his first mistake and
it is a pretty massive one because of giving up that
genus yeah i gave up so much momentum lose all you lose all your vision you lose pretty
much everything when you're playing versus that slark this falcon just sweeping together as a unit.
And look at the next itemization...
So this is one where the Aeon just might- if you see it,
If you see them purchase it that's when you queue up the Aeon and you go for it.
Mal'Rin is going for a Hex
because that one can make it so you can't beat his
but yeah absolutely. So we'll see which one he does
adapt for if he sees it and if Mal'Rin does commit
because they can still switch itemization up and stuff like that
daytime's been hit psg quest trying to get outside at least gets some type of control
of vision here for the moment try to claim a high ground this is the tensest moment of the game and this is the closest game that we've had
one minute for Roche.
It'll be all important to get the coalition.
Bottom right corner, so PSG Quest in a favorable spot
to start setting things up for it.
And an incredibly sneaky ward I do want to say on the uh right south southwest of us
right there by the roche pit i don't think i've ever seen that one by the uh outpost yeah left
left left right there bam there we go pretty cool one i don't think i've ever seen
that one so it's all about the roche fight and trying to find this opportune war that
doesn't get taken out so kind of cool one question quest setting up indeed with that
falcons in return they're gonna be able to get the long wrap around
spends out his gold he bought the reaver
okay well it doesn't actually even have enough to finish the full satanic
now they see the courier also too so they might think that they're over here
mar is pinging it wrap around on wraparound this is the
smokes oh shut up in five seconds
but the flight's definitely gonna kick off first psc quest they've got behind
them they're going to jump snake you can see if they can burst through the crystal
maiden who gets caught by the dream coil snaking getting very low but still alive
they weren't able to kill them in the initial burst
inside the pit t80 thousand tries towards maureen marion's able to get up with this
wash buckle it's going very low looking at the rolling thunder
has been dropped down onto a mark
as well double kill but th2000 skeeter he had to go for
the bkb tp out he'll manage to make it away they've used two buybacks though
for this fight both marion and sny buying back to try and get the action going in their favor
But it's not gonna happen. Crick gets caught as well
The Fight is PSD Quest they're gonna be able to get the Roadshed on top of it
Perfect target priorities, TA2000 just
runs at Maureen, it caused him a lot
of issues to do much of anything in that one
and Malek very patient he waits for
the prime opportunity to get the Doom
He does find that Sl and i could see it on stuff there from quest this
russian is theirs ages once tier 2000 refresh a shot for mallet huge opportunity game there
for them and And now the shifts
again, and now massively into their favor with this one
here. I saw they did go for
Manta on the slark. I saw that
Amar had the Lincolns queued up a couple times there.
He went away from it. He does get doomed so yeah maybe i mean there's
a lot of ways to break it as well too so you can understand why he did perhaps want to go down that
route but yeah it does get doomed sure and i guess with the man sir you can sometimes kind of make the outplay right when
you see the doom raising his arms it gives you a little bit of wind up your mind to pop channel
dance disrupt it but uh indeed as we're seeing him out,
making sure he finds his target each and every time
when it matters the most.
Great wraparound.
It was a smoke on smoke to kind of wrap around.
They put their couriers inside of that Roche pit too
so Ducalis' career revealed
where perhaps a couple of the Falcons heroes were as well
as they get that perfect kind of swing.
And now, Nub...
He does have the 25 talent, one of those best ones
you can get in the game.
There it is
so back into that lead that they had earlier 11k 12k no more this time
and with a refresher shard it's going to be two heroes that are very likely
gonna get doomed in the next situation oh my goodness he's gone immediately chris is double
as well he's got a run which one will hold back to you, 2000. Crit tries to jump
up for the high ground.
Did he DC or something?
Oh,
something happened.
Yep,
it looks like
because he just
stood still
for a second.
True,
if he gets that
right click off
that would
probably kill Crit. Could have if he gets the criticism was back up
it's unfortunate uh we did see the death shroud come into play there too i believe he bailed
crit out from uh from death lamar did run in and use that one to protect his buddy
by snaking
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The question is...
I thought 2000 was not The question is... What's that?
I thought 200,000
he's not the base
diving kind of guy
right?
Not usually.
No I don't think
he'll do it.
Other players
but he's a sensible if you didn't see
he's got ages he's got bkb he's got satanic these are all ready to use
like there's gotta be a little temptation To go up to the high ground
I think if he didn't DC
He would have gone up
And at least tried for that extra hit
But at this point
There's too much time to be like
Yeah
Guys, my dive brings EP's in
It's not sensible
When they've gotten their lead back massively
shift in their favor you know I wait for the push to come in they have to see him
bet for 70 seconds they have mid and bottom lane pushing in so yeah it's not
necessary to go for it unless he doesn't want to just really get that
chikuchi she could come into an end so it's going to be kind of hard for him to
chase completely up into the high ground so other this is kind of fun to point out because you were
just mentioning you know with this manta thing on the slark yeah that moment sometimes where the
arms get lifted blah right malik is queuing up a yashakaya for a
caspian i mean that's pretty cool all
right that's one of those kind of mechanics as well that can catch out even the best player.
If you go for it...
Suddenly this spell, these animations that you've got so used to seeing, bam!
See, that was a little bit sooner,
a little bit quicker.
I mean...
It can really trip you up.
I would highly prefer
it to see a refresher.
I know this is kind of like
the hype...
He's got a refresher shot on him.
Yeah, but once it's gone, right?
Like, I mean, yeah, either way.
It's hype.
If he does get it,
that'd be really cool if he
does get the opportunity. Also increases like the war stop
and everything too. It's pretty much instant so...
Hey, it's cool. Whatever.
Neither one of them. Pretty okay with this especially
if they just play clean now in these upcoming moments
because they've opened up the game completely now
With this Puck, with this Weaver, with this Aegis
Got a great opportunity to go toward the high ground and start poking
And noob is continuing to scale.
You know, that slight concern
that maybe there was there for him falling off,
it's not there.
Even though he died the once in that mid lane
with an Aghanim's done
with his Mjolnir getting closer and closer.
We saw similar from no one in particular once
we got to late game puck what he was able to do tense moments upcoming go when ready
yeah we're back in on the action tier 2000 will he dive
is that easy well he does he goes up a little bit
don't get caught by the pounce but as i say it's pretty unkillable at this
status and actually because he was ready to dive
even more trying to past the tier three
they'll settle too and put the pressure on the buildings
force out of fortification a couple more pickups there with the hex
now on mallory uh cripples are having new york's
actually gonna set of newbies in!
He's gonna jump over the Doom and Dreamcon
They're gonna follow Gemini down
And they've got to get the Doom again
Down onto Amarr
Amarr is in trouble
The Slark will fall
Kripp to die as well
The Pymat will come out from Amarr
The secondary Doom
Dropped down onto Maureen,
so he's going to have to roll his way back towards the fans
and a scout at the fight for now.
They don't have the buybacks on the two supports falcons.
Everyone's too tanky at this point.
I mean, here we go.
This was much more of a dive than
i expected but it was beautiful pays off
psg quest they get right into the base
of falcons they're going to be able
to take the bottom set of barracks and
almost certainly more they can swing
over towards the mid
they absolutely can hit 50 seconds no hoodwink we saw talcans
they don't have a damage between these three especially if they're going to get
doomed 90 seconds they'll reincarnate no rolling thunder they want more come
up let's get the jump off the side i think
was this golden ray fire blast more. Omar, he's got to jump off the side.
Golden Rayfire Blast
I believe
caught him
there.
Omar
tripping
him up
and he's
out for
100.
That could
just be it
they gave
him the
XD.
Oh my goodness!
And that's what he gets for saying, you gave me my signature heroes at the start.
Indeed, that's the finish of that conversation.
The XD indeed.
I do love a good XD.
It's popped they're looking to close this out i mean there's no slot for 80 seconds 50 quest they could continue the diving they look at was marie
and they catch him in the call he He's gone! GG is called!
We're going to a game three ladies and gentlemen. PSG Quest take game two.
This was super exciting too. Back-and-forth a bit inside of
the majority this game but all it took was that one fight around Rosh.
Malik gets the Doom on the Slark.
Then the next fight he gets the Doom on the Slark.
Yep. It wasn't one slip-up of course
Noob. We did see him die in that mid lane.
But outside of that is a very good game.
Indeed. This is the sort of stuff we want to be seeing
coming out from the mid from Noob.
Absolutely.
Yeah, that one slip-up but it didn't matter.
Everything else was pretty much perfect
from Noob on his puck this game
and yeah as I said when you look back at that draft,
Falcons, they didn't give the puck respect.
They did not.
They really didn't.
They were banning our Earthshaker.
Again, imagine because it was a noob here
and because we're like, no noob can play
and have played in the past with MidShaker
but being more scared of his shaking than
the puck that's just insulting they've got to
respect this part it probably was something about like
the laning phase right in particular because they wanted to make sure that
malory has a good lane but as the game progressed yeah noob
just started on your total menace.
Giving information, scouting, always allowing this Doom
to get the opportunities because he can play that aggressive
and it was a beautiful game.
Honestly one of those teams I think even you'll admit yourself
I guess we don't mind the Rubick coming up in these labs 4 2 and 19
going in with some clutch stuff at the end of the u.s said that there was a stolen red five last
kind of caught uh the mouth guard and that second kill to die back on him up yeah he only died twice sometimes you see like
a lot of deaths coming up but omar was playing careful playing in the back line so it's so easy
to feed on a river yeah but uh didn't happen here by Omar.
Well, we're getting a game three.
I can't wait.
Is it going to happen?
We saw PSG Quest yesterday.
They got stomped in game one of the series with a game two and game three.
They started to look very, very good
and now we get the win.
Is it gonna happen today
or are Falcons gonna come back out on top?
I can't wait for now is one-to-one
PSG Quest versus team Falcons.
Before we get to that game number three though we do want to break down this
game number two and tell you exactly how it ended up the way it did psg quest they managed
to do it again seems to be a recipe for success,
so lose game one and then win
came too.
But boy, this way, this was
very close game.
But I think you knew the whole
way that this was going
to be theirs.
And I just love to watch this team play
because my favorite thing about Quest is honestly
they move with such
confidence regardless of their
position in the game where their net worth
lead may or may not be and who they're playing against.
They don't care. They'll make insane dives,
they'll make smoke rotations, they'll
fight into Aegis with their carry dead
and because of their ability
to make these moves, they never feel like they're in a position
that when they are in a network deficit, they're actually losing the game.
I love how they distributed their heroes on the map this game, Puck constantly split pushing
TA-2000 also on the other side of the map that puck was playing
on even when falcons were five manning you saw the weaver just pitching that bot lane
going in net worth and all they needed was a good fight opportunity when they got
a good deem off to win the fight yeah i think the
confidence factor you could see it in
the game there's a lot of teams from
this position
they probably wouldn't have played the
way they did because it was really
important for them to actually do that
around the map
because the team fights they took the moves they did around the map. Because the teamfights they took,
the moves they did around early game as well...
For me like The Weaver also
like TA2000 had a sick performance
all these early-game moves it's like
through him then Noob does it later
their teamfighting
Like Omar we can even see it here. You have T2000
who started this whole fight by QQing through.
I want people to pay attention to Omar. He's gonna get
rolled on. Eventually after he
steals Shield Crash to go over the edge on the
south here to stay alive.
And making this type of rotation on Falcons...
These guys love to maximize.
You just need to bring numbers
and do something that they don't expect,
which, trust me,
they're not expecting
to be dying here
at their Tier 2 tower.
And this is what Nero's talking about,
they're just using the heroes properly,
they are playing fast and confident
doing the right things. Maybe the mid game wasn't
super clean for five or six minutes
but the rest... God damn. This team is
hacking good Jenkins. Yeah there's definitely
TI vibes going on for
both sides even noob walking
up the high ground and dying mid
teams are both making mistakes.
But when that is happening,
that is particularly
when you need to make the clutch plays
which I feel like Quest
is playing without fear, which I think
is really important in these scenarios.
It does mean that there's some goofy stuff
that happens but it also means
that they're willing to make the moves
that you need to make
to come back in these games or to get a
lead in these games. And I agree with what
Owen was saying about Noob Puck
This is not that great of a hero
but he's the best at it
this is what he came on to the scene playing.
He was going for Rapier, Puck, Aghanim Scepter late game 1v5 carrying the game.
I think this is worth a second phase ban,
To be honest.
On hindsight, I would agree maybe instead of their shaker as was mentioned
but this did make for a lot of cool moments effie your highlight is going
to be one of those cool moments i believe yeah oh this was not the highlight that
i was expecting but no this is a cool one don't worry we'll
get your highlight out there it's coming
i can talk about that one too, and they brought five heroes
really early on which again is
very cool. They brought heroes to the
Doomland that was meant to be the losing
land and they actually got a punish on Wraith King really
early on so... Cool. So, cool!
It was cool!
We'll get the right one in just a second.
I do want to talk about...
Oh never mind it's here now. Let's go.
No!
Just cover this one, Mira.
Why not?
I mean look so Falcons make a very decisive play here and you know they go in with their
Pangolier rolling thunder but they
over commit a little bit and they bring the ta2000 to the bot lane they managed
to kill wraith king twice over here and maybe
a lot of teams wouldn't have wanted to bring all that fire early on, but they do end up doing that here.
And this fight actually goes on for a very
long time. A very long time.
Yeah, like now even here I love that Noreen
is turning. The fact that you've
turned his fight 2v5 to get a kill and keep running down
and hiding because he actually gets to live.
They do get the turnkill on the Doom but I love they just bring all these heroes
because Amarr Slark was kind of a meme at least in the first 15 minutes
He's not a hero,
so they're abusing that. Take the fight down bottom 4v5. Good stuff. That fight went on
for so long that Wraith King, a hero that literally
respawns when he dies...
Respawneded a second time
and then got into the fight.
You could see
the Wraith King nerf
in that fight by the way.
Like,
he was a ghost
for what felt like
almost no time.
That's a big nerf
to that hero.
I did not feel Skeeter nerf to that here.
I did not feel Skeeter's
impact in that game for
me.
And this was the one you
wanted to highlight?
This was the one.
So this is really
the moment where Quest
turned the game and took
it in their favor.
They had just planted that cliff ward there by
Ducales right before it happened,
and Ammar on this Lark walks
up into the high ground gets doomed
by Malik while Mallorine went on the rest
of the team who actually kited him around for a very long time.
After they got the Slark kill, Weaver
was on the Pango
the entire time in the backline while
the rest of Quest were isolating Wraith King
when they killed them twice on the side so that was just really well played Dota there,
And that to me showed the value of Doom in that draft
because the value didn't exist until Falcons picked Slark
and gave Doom that value
and that's essentially how they won the game,
they kept dooming Slark
and fighting around everybody else.
Yeah I believe Roche fights
then also come into play
once you're able to take those fights
because of that doom
Roche fights are very important, Jenkins.
Yeah, this was a very interesting fight
and it went on for a very long time
where Falcons is at a deficit
and they sneak into Rose.
Malik blinks in and kind of screws up his initiation uh slark
gets off the depth shroud but eventually i do believe mallory ends up getting doomed
here with this re-initiation coming in from malik and this was a great doom target noob
was also able to steal the roshan kill even though amar picked up both the ages and the flag
from this so it's kind of one of these fights where mistakes being made on both sides, clutch plays happening
on both sides. Eventually after the BKB walking up into the high ground
I was sitting with Avery and he is like, what is that BKB? It just really
has TI vibes. And then right after this
Amar feeds the Aegis
at Tier 2. At Tier 2 yeah
and it's like, what is going on
in this game? High pressure game, baby.
Yes, so much pressure.
You know if you considered that a high-pressure game...
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I have two of their clowns here with me which is Noob and Omar
And I've a couple questions for you guys
So first of all what's like the kind of team dynamic? I have a couple questions for you guys.
So first of all, what is the kind of team dynamic?
Who makes the most jokes, who makes the most calls
who makes the stupidest suggestions in the game
give me some insight
This is our clown
he makes the stupidest jokes
in-game, outside game, everything.
Okay nice.
No he's clown number one and I'm clown number two. It works like this way.
Okay so clown 1 & 2. Now follow up. If you could choose one thing about each other that this person would stop doing outside of the game or inside of the game?
What would you chose for Omar and what would you chose for Noob?
He can stop feeding a bit but he he can be himself outside the game.
Bro this guy needs to stop with these weird sounds when he's in mid lane
He needs to stop doing this. So it's a little bit triggering maybe, you know these mid players always complain they want your runes and stuff?
Okay makes sense.
He is lying, yesterday everyone was complaining about him crying in mic and stuff.
It says on stage...
Oh my God!
You know it's 6-0-0, 6-0-1
Oh my God I'm always unlucky!
These runes man...
Oh Dota doesn't like me...
One serious question
How about the teams like Spirit
Falcons, Gaming Gladiators
What do you feel is the one thing if you had to
choose just one thing what makes them as good as they are? Is it
draft gameplay hero understanding? What would you guys say? I would say they
understand the game really well and how to win exactly.
That's it mostly.
I think they have a very good understanding
and work hard to stay consistent with their good understanding of the hard work.
So what do you guys do to work as hard as them
to understand the heroes?
Is it talk to each other, is it play pubs,
is it coach wisdom? What do you do?
We troll Omar.
I get trolled okay that's great well thank you guys so much good luck in the in the playoffs and enjoy your media day If I heard that you
If I heard that you uh. so I will go, I will go.
Last time he saw look, look, look at it.
I call him!
Outstand after?
Can't go, can't go, I have a tank.
Yeah yeah, stay dead.
Good job. Nice, Richard!
One more!
Good job indeed! It is PSG Quest 2, game number two
and that's why we're here for our third
and deciding game of this lower bracket match to decide which one of these two teams will move forward in RIA Masters here live from the Esports World Cup.
Winning here means you get yourself a top four finish.
And that also comes with an extra 100k dollars, by the way.
A lot of money on the line but But I think for these teams, for both
these teams, the bigger deal
here is who
is the best in the MENA region
the whole year round?
It was Falcons winning every single qualifier and gatekeeping quest
from any event they wanted to go to the only events they did manage to go through
our events that focus with directly invited to. Winning here would be
massive for them.
We'll see what they come up with in game number
three, we've seen them do it before,
we've seen them knock out tournament favorites
before, can they do it here against falcons we're gonna start things off very
similar apart from the oh i did not think because i know you're a big rubik uh
not necessarily hater but you don't really like it how do you feel
obviously you know you gotta give the respect where it's due right
you know they picked that last game they owned with it like overall if i'm quest
i think
they're just mode zone right now you know every time they lose game one
zone yeah they're in the zone okay you know it's we all the dota players
they know it they lose first game they win the second
game they do it every time they're doing it here again i
do like that they've been on the weaver i feel like this rubik band had a lot to
do that maybe falcons are looking at this weaver look good looked good in both games
could have first picked up by quest boom One step ahead they know what's up
Back to you Jenkins
I just want to make this analogy before we get into the draft here
Quest is like the main guy in a Dark Souls game
Where they figure out the boss fight after Game 1
and then they realize that they just have to stand behind the boss
and it can't hit them.
And then, they do it for the third time
and then it's like they've just mastered the the move set
and that's how it felt in the previous two series and i wonder if uh the falcons is going to prove
to be a boss that has a phase two.
That's the question I have here, Afiya.
Great analogy! Thank you.
I do think Falcons have a phase 2.
The Rubick ban in the first phase was not just to respect them
but because they wanted to open up Doom.
Which they haven't been able
to do that much during this tournament
But they did manage to a couple of times
and it is one of the ATF specialties
But because they can open this doom
they get the beastmaster trade from quest which
we haven't seen them run in a long time but this was one of their successful
strategies in planes and honestly they look really
good on their Beastmaster.
Now that they have the advantage of protecting it with their upcoming bone
because...
It came out right after the Doom, right?
So it's not like they can counter the Beastmaster
with an instant
Sand King or an instant tier or something
like that. This is an interesting one
because I feel like Doom pretty hard counters
the Beastmaster in general just conceptually
I mean you probably need a hero on Falcons
that can test stacks
because Doom doesn't really do that
and Neneast is one of the best stack farmers
in Dota right now, if not the best.
But the beast master that becomes this unkillable tank, who's just sitting there healing is not possible against Doom.
Because Doom literally prevents him from healing. press it on him if he's dead uh and then
also it's like percentage hp the doom deals and beastmaster has a huge h people like you're never
going to get to that unkillable point on this hero.
Doom is good against Beast, but I will also say that
Cress are comfortable with this hero.
What I want them to do is build a lineup where
they're gonna have the upper hand in getting Aegis
because at least one thing that Beast will give you
against Doom is that he gives you
a good teamfight. You can kill him through the BQB,
but also Aegis is so important. So for
PSG Quest, I'm looking at carries that
lane well against Doom, potentially
not get kicked out and help you take roles like play this mid-game timing.
Could be your TA 2000.
TA maybe he likes a more fling unless if you think some morph is too slow but any of these
heroes with good lanes is what PSG Quest should look to play around.
I like that you brought up the ta because
that's a hero that you have to think about the mid game timing with the beastmaster and it's been
a while since we've seen t2000 busted out but a game three where you want to
knock out Falcons,
this could be the game.
So Jokirov,
very...
You know,
just the best supports
coming out for Falcons.
Nothing wrong
if they want to pick
some hoodwinker just like all the other games
I don't know if there's anything else that feels like super insane. You know, your Rubik is out
That's respect band the Weaver is out as well Jenkins you see any other mr.. Supports that look cool here
Phoenix because you see any other Mr. Supports that look cool here? I like Phoenix.
I can see Phoenix.
Phoenix is definitely good for turning the fights, because I do feel
like right now... Okay, there's the Chen.
Um... I mean
I like Chen into both of
these heroes. I was going to say when I saw the Beast
and the Jatira come out it's such an overwhelming
amount of magic damage and stun
and all of it is AoE.
So Chen being a mech aura pipe man
is very strong against these heroes like this
They do a lot of damage, but not
a ton of burst on the side of PSG
Quest right now so I don't know
some sort of healing prevention
or maybe Nyx
Assassin to deal with the Chen creep but then Nyx is not as good against a CK.
I don't think I've seen Quest run it that much.
I could even see if they want to play the Jokero 5 like you could even just go like some pango phoenix here on their side too i feel
like if i'm leaning against chen ck they need to right click me a lot i
just want any four that i feel like helps get my maybe beast through the
game because chen ck they want to destroy this Beastmaster.
They know that this hero should not get a good early game
so obviously they wanna play fast
and for Noob whatever he feels
but anything to counter teamfight
would be pretty solid here. Yeah yeah they could still go for the
hoodwink themselves as well right that's not true there is nothing ever wrong with that hero no
i think the 10 plus the ck, from when we've seen Gaiman play it.
They run it two times a couple of days ago but these two heroes together bring a very scary tempo
because CK is a carry that will rotate through the twin gate early and fight really
early. And he takes advantage of Trans Aura's better than almost any other carry because
he throws his body in, he starts to fight for his team, he gets Hand of God and he gets Solar Crested.
It's pretty scary to play against.
Some would say Spider is pretty scared to play against but we also know that the win rate
for PSG quests with The Broodmother hasn't been the greatest.
That being said, the game we saw them lose just two days ago against OG was actually a game
that in the laning stage very much went their way it just
went to ryan later on they are one and one and four on it i
believe yeah 20 win rate uh from the carry role honestly
i think that it makes me a little bit sad
but they go for their statistically losing strategy
in this game three.
But there is a lot of benefits to having Brute as a hero
because we saw Tee2000 do really cool things right like he planted webs on all three lanes at the start of the game so that they
could get the leaning advantage through the hp region he also wins his lane against any melee hero, like Doom should not be able to win lane
against Rude but how do you get out of lanes and turn that into a winning situation if
your quest because the answer isn't there.
Beastmaster needs to farm an item timing. You need new items. winning situation of your quest because the answer isn't there.
Beastmaster needs
to farm an item
timing.
You need noob
to do some heavy
lifting.
Well, I at least
like it against a
couple of the heroes
that they do see
like sure when you
get doomed
you can't mana
but most heroes
can.
You can at least still run through your webs go up on a high ground start Sure, when you get doomed, you can't mana but most heroes can.
You can at least still run through your webs like go up on a higher ground and start juking around
and do that stuff and you do have the tempo to play with beast
You are very annoying for both doom and Chen
If a Chen has a rough early game, you have 50 Spiders running at you.
Good luck snaking! You're straight up gone.
But the thing is like we've seen their Brood has not worked out.
Hopefully they cleaned up their gameplay.
I liked the Puck ban here.
I honestly feel like Prime Al Beast is perfectly fine against Puck mid,
if not wins the lane especially because it's a Mal'Rin that's going to be playing Primal.
But on the flip side you have to give the same respect
to Noob. He will take
a last pick puck if you give it to him
they could use the disable
I think the way that PSG Quest wants to play
the game would've lended itself very well to a puck
where they don't
necessarily want to fight into the ball of
Falcons. They have Spirit Breaker, they have Beastmaster
they wanna play for pick-offs
and small skirmishes, and take some...
You know, kill one hero
And then take a fight. Something along those lines
So Puck would have been very good
And it's a respect found
Is it me? Are we lacking high amounts of damage on PSG Quest?
Because I feel like the lineup from Falcons is looking A very tanky
and B there's also a Hanagod form of a Chen which will make it effective
even more tanky.
Right now, the way I look at these
for here from quest team fighting they
rely...they thrive either off of chaos
or like Brute going behind getting some Orchid
on a Chen, but like I said there's a lot of protection
with the Primal. So they're more about
going in and getting one kill with a Roar and then
tiding more in and outwards
so I feel like they might be looking at prolonged team fighting, so I wouldn't necessarily say
yes they do lack damage but it's more that I think they need a last pick that synergizes
with how the rest of the team also wants to fight.
I also think you need a carry spell. the rest of the team also wants to fight.
I also think you need a carry style mid laner actually for quest because your brood is going to get doomed and it's gonna get pulverized on the BKB
If your broods not getting doomed, your beast is getting doomed so something from the
mid lane the midlane that builds to scale for the late game and takes some of the attention
off of these two cores would be really helpful but which heroes do that outside of TA and potentially Windranger?
I mean, I'm looking maybe at like a Caudill
It's not exactly like a traditional style carry where you're doing physical damage,
but I think the hero does do a ton of damage and scales in terms of utility.
And then also you could snowball pretty hard against the three strength
cores.
That's an early
timing.
Early timing
into snowball
like Vessel Builder
it's a new classic
I don't
want to see him
on Void Spirit
I feel like
that's a scaling
mid
but
not at all I feel like that's a scaling mid they could put.
Not...I don't like that either, maybe DK actually.
We've seen DK stocks go up and it was played through the carry role but
That's a mid laner you can kind of reliably put on there
That can also play very well into the late game.
Sure, but I...
Honestly, I like Primal against DK
You just chew through the
Dragonblood armor
with trample because it's,
of course magic damage.
I'm having a hard time
with the last pick on quests at least currently
but obviously they will have more
time cause Falcons are the ones that need to
most likely pick crits heroes out of phase
same story here,
I don't see anything that is like
super incredible,
a lot of times when they've had to reach a little deeper
when some supports are banned is like some
Windranger which which is fine.
It's not insane.
I don't think it's bad. Maybe there's something to be
said about the shard. When they go in,
PG quests later when I run away.
So maybe there's something about no G no Galeforce keep them in place
don't allow the Brufen to running away
if she gets doomed
At least other than that
I can see anything
they will ban out the Cottle
that Master Jenkins talked about
The Pengo by the way is still on the pool
I don't know if that's good
one for new day a good call they will go for the wind ranger Wow they block pick they blocked
pick what could have been one of quests only like carry stop mid laners now the there's not that much remaining. There's like
Storm, there's void spirit
There's a T and DK but you don't really want to go to them.
I do like that the entire draft of PSG Quest is banned second time around
And the only hero still's still in is stolen so
they were forced to go for something entirely different than before the first
time this series the pango is in the hands of new plays a great
payment he does and it's a great game for pangol
versus Chen versus CK.
It's very high early
in tempo hero.
It does not give them
the late game security
of when their brood starts
to get giga countered
and when they're beast
start to get giga countered And then their Beast Starts to get
Giga countered
But you know what
Maybe they just win
The early mid game
And they don't even
Need to think about
The scaling
That's what
They're looking at here
Remember the game
Against Aurora
If they can do
The same thing The first 13 minutes and then not throw hard...
Oh yeah, against OG. My mistake.
Like if they can clean up their game and execute very well
Their drafts can obviously win.
I think both drafts are great. Both teams have what they want in order to win.
But for me it's all about the early game. Can Brute go through?
Go through the gate? Can Nuke go bottom to his beast and help?
Are they going to get first ages or do Falcons get two damage control? Do they have a better early game? Are they going to slow down the game?
So for me, lots of fighting. It's all about
execution and gameplay. I'm a huge
fan of this Primal. You can grab
the Spearbreaker through his Bulldoze.
It's not affected by status resistance.
You can grab the Pango while he is rolling and it literally stops the roll for some reason.
So, it's Malorine playing one of his best heroes if not his
best hero in a game that is perfect for him so i worry for quest because of this
worries coming out from
my panel but there are definitely
glimmers of hope for PSG Quest
From what it sounds like though both teams
will need to give their best
in order to come out on top in this
game number three, the deciding match.
Let's get it started together with
Odipixel and Fogged!
Thank you very much
GBS, it is time for the deciding game here between Team Falcons and PSG Quest
And folks, PSG Quest they've got all in here Phil
They really do
This early game, they want to try run this Brood lineup that we've seen them not do too well with before.
Different things around the Brute this time, but without a doubt they need to get ahead
And they can't make mistakes.
They slip behind Falcons and should be there again.
Yeah, Falcons have It should be their game.
Yeah, Falcons have gone for
their old true-tried strategy
of very, very tanky three cores
with the backup of a healing
and stuff like that
and it definitely looks strong
if they're able to fight off
that early game
and let's say yeah it really is going to come down
to everything of PSG Quest
and how they can do with this Brute Mother
if they cleaned up the active the other day
because T2000 can play it.
It just can he play with his team
and how much can they do?
He's doing the same thing I saw him do the other day he buys boots runs to lanes he's going to place the triple
webs falcons is predicting this will happen
they're gonna play some work to maybe try to get there in time to get a kill
they won't but yeah it's essentially gonna place a web
which probably involves three of those lanes to
build apply the necrotic webs to each one of them to try to get that main
advantage because that's what this draft is about
and did you like the versatility being shown from Falcons here
be able to get the Windranger,
getting Critter player support in order
to take that away as an option
that maybe Noob would have wanted
to consider for his last pick.
Yeah I mean it's definitely very interesting
It's not the strongest of four positions or five positions really
at this point in the meta, but it can work in some
of these games, especially if you're doing something that
didn't I think and just a little small thing is to
point out is the tailwind. You know we pointed out
the other game. It didn't work out the best with the Primal but he does have
the Primal plus that increased movement speed stuff
and everything like that. And he's got a Doom in his lane
so a very speedy lane
with the Scorched Earth plus that Tailwind that can come
in. Yeah, let's see how these lanes do go down
and see how they're able to do
because now we also get the fun of
the Primal versus Pango
on the mid lane again.
You know, we saw Noob suffer heavily
Let's see if he's going to be able
to do better as it pango matchup.
He did good in the first four, right? I think until level 4 and 5
he was doing pretty good but then...
Yeah, he got some good denies.
It was just like a little bit of an edge that Malorine got
and he actually got six firsts and then gets the kill so
timings are gonna be everything here.
Bottom,
let's see how this lane does too. It's a Beastmaster
Spiritbreaker lane that they opted for this.
Omar, he asked for the Spiritbreaker, so it's a bit
of an interesting choice that he wanted to go for
versus this chen and ck because could be it'd be difficult for him to apply too much pressure
but maybe he was i'm actually wondering why he did maybe he's like oh i don't need mana
in this lane and i can kill the creep because we've seen these
chens every single time they get this saturn just burn manna and spirit breaker is one that doesn't
really rely too much on it i'm trying to figure out stuff but it's interesting what was the
downside of these two?
Did they have to damage earlier
to fight against the sustain that Falcons will have between these two?
Yeah, it's double melee and it's into a CK who just has built-in sustain
so I would say that Sceva should get some solid free farm down here.
Oh yeah, just a bit of an interesting one to see
that they did go for that Spirit Breaker.
But it could also be just about that mid game
where he's able to make quick early rotations
and that has been the key to psg quest success is quick early
rotations and aggression at their big stage we'll still see the satyr do its job and be
very obnoxious as it's just going to burn the Beastmasters man away.
And overall, what do you think is about this sort of patch or series in particular maybe
that made PSG Quest want to try and bring out this tier 2000 prove once again
and look to play fast against Falcons.
Is it something that you feel the other teams have been doing
against Falcons has had success?
Why the option to just go all in
and try run them over?
Oh, sure.
I mean, it's up
for the carry player
every single time, right?
Whatever he asks for.
If he feels like this was
one of the best heroes
that he could play
you kind of have
to pick it for him.
You know,
the other day
with the Naga pick
they did have
like this Ember ET but it ended up not mattering at all
because the emperor literally had no game so if ta 2000 wants it you give it to him
but yeah as we said he's had a it's a one in four record as we saw brought
up there for them and they didn did end up even losing versus like mouse
with it so he might be dead here power shot comes in and indeed heal full first blood from
ours he takes the carry out and tomorrow overall he is playing at more normal hero
yes the slark is down his style but
you know the greed definitely hurt him it felt like in that last game just trying to get too
many of these you know late-game type of items and he just got doomed every single
time so he was deleted and they did didn't pick that slug into the doom asking himself I'm art match up so far
pretty even hmm what we're saying no nude well actually enough is coming in onto him as
well so with that in mind he's yeah he's got a decent lead here against mallory and
so far malorin tends to drag waves when he's playing Primal Beast. I was literally about
to say, like,
he went for a different
build that we saw Noob
go.
Noob went the level
four or level three
uproar in particular
because he just wants
to be able to try
and fight in the lane.
Malrean,
he puts his second
point in trample
so that he can just trample down
and try to enhance his farm with that while
pulling it into neutral camp. So it's a different approach
from each player. It's always interesting to see that even
though it's an exact same matchup, two players
have completely different kind of approaches for it.
They'll glitch the wave just to be annoying
to slow down Malriem from clearing that with a trample which is nice.
That's pretty annoying for him.
Absolutely.
He's going to have to arm-slaw away.
I mean his pango should have a bit of an advantage
and he is actually going to chase him
dragging his wave
to potentially catch the way that he was trying to
He was definitely thinking about making
the move all the way over there i love it he literally
dragged the mid wave to try to catch in this secondary wave from maureen so cool stuff
bottom we're seeing an immense amount of denies skeeter also being able to
get the wave behind his tower.
Some of the highest denies I think we've seen in the safe lane at three minutes
nine already up on him and four on the chance so they have taken out
13 creeps down there just with denies
Yeah, it is as you say that know that to set up with a spirit breaker
beastmaster hasn't been able to do a lot in the lane and in terms of the overall game are there
heroes you'd say on falcons they're going to be scared of omar spirit break like what sort
of threat is the sp gonna offer here yeah i mean the hero
can't always just be good it's if you fall too far behind sometimes you're discharged to your
death in a lot of instances and versus a five-man lineup marine just wait but we got Marine can sweep but
Fight back here, but...
For Malik and Omar to actually do damage to these two it's-
It just feels kind of f- you know
Kind of pointless. They just heal up
Sorry my brain just broke for a second there
Cause Maureen
lost his courier to noob.
I didn't even see
where his courier was.
I don't know how it did
and then he also got
his water rune
denied by a boar.
I think Malak
sent the boar over there
so Malak,
even though he's not
having a good lane,
he is trying to do stuff with his boars and stuff
beneath the nine runes and getting those stacks going.
So, he'll have recovery outlets.
But we have to talk about the contestion that they can do.
Falcons, they can't contest those stacks
with the Primal Beast if he's off to a good start
so far maureen even though there's no denies i'm new but he is playing very well in the lane
i mean you're still getting these levels and he's got level three trample to get
those stacks.
If they don't manage
to keep control of
that area for recovery
for the Beastmaster,
it's going to be a
tough game for Malik.
Free farm continues for Skeeter on this bottom lane,
it's the dream start for CK.
I was thinking
if Ducalis maybe looks to make a move because
top lane is already pretty rough. So I was wondering if maybe
he goes through the portal to try and do something about him
but you might just die before it's even possible
This only looks like it, they're diving under
the tower to get him, Amar
will be able to do so see if they can kill him in return our shots low
mom the retreat charges back up though Omar's it jackals out doesn't matter no
more still ever reach for and get that final punch to take them all down good tp malik he's just gonna have
to deal with this and as you say you know recover off of these stacks and stuff but then new pass
at six marine is trying to get his sixes juking it yeah he's joking beautifully exactly how we get the grab off to take noob out
of the rolling thunder a lot for tp out okay he does not the damage is enough good efforts there
from maureen but he won't PSG Quest able to find the kill around
the mid. Great TP from Ducalis and Malorine
probably like, oh maybe if I popped my Faerie Fire
before the TP I could have potentially
but either way. Little jukes
around there were nice to get that grab, but yeah Ducalus does end up coming in for that cleanup kill and...
Oh Crit stole the illusion rune. I was like where did the power rune go? Crit was able to sneak in and grab it.
Good TP! to sneak in and grab it good tp this gives a lot of room for noob
marion have to walk back walk back out on the map after trying to use the tp
to escape yeah and similar as we saw you know from maureen in that matchup it is about a even higher
actually 1200 gold lead coming up from the pango so noob definitely set up for success to make moves
around early on and that's been the success for psg quest a lot of times
when noob has this good game can cause a lot to happen here at skitter oh are they
going to get double wisdoms here or they just might.
They will.
And Malik, his stacks are being contested as well too they're scouting them out
prevented a couple
It'll be difficult for him to get the space
to farm them
That is pretty brutal, losing your double wisdoms
Supports now will be low level
Especially the Spirit Breaker
China Windranger now
Almost four and a half close to five well spirit breakers three
and a half same thing for the jacquira's almost four but yeah that wisdom being taken away
genius move there from skater as he tends to do
amar on crypt top you get into the point where they can really build up the pressure.
Once you get the Doom on Amar...
They could look to dive.
They're bringing Mal'Greene but he's actually preemptively charged so
they could set up onto him and you might not expect this.
And it gets stopped.
He's put something on slow,
now get the shot for shock connection onto TA2000
They're not able to get any follow-up
TA2000 is never back off
by the three of them
he's got the tram pole very far as well he's getting bas get one more Shackle shot and a Power Shot out
The crit goes down
The rest of Falcons though they stay
healthy here on the high ground
Considering going back in Skidder has turned up
And Malgrin has been healed up as well too. I think they passed a couple
lotuses to him. They want to try
to make a move now that Roland Thunder is down. They want to try
to find his brood.
Malgrin
all this. He's actually TP'ing out.
Looking to set up onto mid. The power rune has spawned new but we'll be able
get that arcane rune just beforehand though.
Should have this kill, he's got to grab he doesn't need grabs them up
pick up they've got the shackle to hold back noob so marlene's got the space
to step out action-packed early game so many rotations top perhaps another one
mars getting pretty low here and last but not the spiders and they've also got the wrong side
setups down to doom gets found love that from alec you know he's already having it he's
having a tough time but being able to just sneak up on him there and he has
hit the level six that was really nice skeeter will as
you said finish off the tower but good rotations coming out here too
keeping things up d2000 he's top of
the net worth on this brood yes it's what it's where you need to be when you're playing a safe
lane bridge you can't afford to start slipping behind and they did the other day they did have
that type of like good advantage everything
it was just one mistake that kind of compounded massively bottom
let's go to carlos here to help out phantasm comes out there for skier
that's time to continue to chase down the Beastmaster. Noobz in with
Rolling Thunder though, ready to jump over
the walls of CK. Catches him with Rolling Thunder
Malik does go down but they're keeping
Skeeter chain-stunned up. They'll kill off
the Chaos Knight and kill off the Chen Quest. They'll kill of the Chen. Quest, bring in
the numbers! Ah noob, what a jump
over the Lotus Pool perfectly
to land on top of the CK.
They lose the Beastmaster but well worth it
they bring down the CK great moves super aggressive stuff and
then we'll build a backup and get these stacks as we do see it again
I don't even see him coming in to instant TP as soon as the aggression
happens new trying to be incredibly active.
Absolutely, it's a great spot for Dacalus to be in as well
offers that extra bit of time so the Falcons have to spend
that much more trying to get this Beastmaster killed
by the time they find him. It's too late they lose two in return yeah and even
though omar in particular also didn't do a whole lot during the laning phase a couple of these
charges now have come in very clutch just either keeping the tabs division or just
stopping the initial charges and stuff like that. So nicely done from him
Smoke up now he's gotten to haste turn
Wants to try to use this one maybe to contest the stacks
that they know the Beastmaster might be going back to.
PSG Quest, they're ready.
They're ready to protect these stacks.
They've got the Ice Path to cover versus that Pulverize from a distance.
They've got the Spirit Breaker also who's almost six and even Noob is swinging over it.
They really want to protect this anticipating the movement from falcons
innovate him feel strong because he has this haste room. You might think there is not everybody here, but there is.
The DI is far for the setup.
They hit with the Burst to Roar as well!
They punish him immediately!
What a bait!
This is some genius level stuff
coming out from psg quest just whoever's making that call just nobody show throw the axis make
him go in for it and then jump him that was beautiful stuff here did you see what
did he get the majority of the the stack or were ps2 personally able to secure some
those lawsuits themselves don't think you got anything
didn't look like you did at least today maybe he got one or two of them but yeah
great move
right right into their trap so prepared i mean that's just like that's such good forethought coming in
and omar now has it level six so maureen essentially trying to get a setup on tim but
not too little too deep they do have damage that can be provided from the supports
as well marine does step up again set up with the ultimate knocking back in the rolling thunder and
the macrophage is gone and here comes t000 yeah they're throwing down tips it feels like
they're really they're going to be able to start getting into marines help with these plays
he's bottom of the course even below that beastmaster who is struggling they've
literally been falling they time forward they're
able to close the gap in no double kill oh they're playing this perfect uh yeah
and the spirit break as you mentioned it's really fitting into the style
they want to be rolling with this game.
Omar always there even for the follow-up, which is start the plays.
It's doing a lot.
And they can potentially just look to siege all these towers.
Overall for Falcons defending the towers is mostly up to maureen if he wants to actually do so and
now he's died a couple times back to back-to-back could be afraid to even show up to some of these
as psg quest they have his number the three this trail noob with omar as well as jokiro it's more than
enough damage to be able to bring down even somebody like the primal beast very cool stuff
and look at this i just continued to play around noob who's having a beautiful game
amar is still getting good farms same thing for skeeter but they have
really shut down malrine some of the lowest points i've seen him have he's got stacks
to go back to which you probably will have to try to catch back up but yeah some great
aggressive moves in mallick that beastmaster is doing pretty good
he's actually three components of that agonist now
hot stuff I don't want to do next now when that goes done on a mom you know thinking get
the smoke out yeah he'll buy it we said every time for him to go he's gonna try
to reestablish this early game they don't
want to keep sacking Malveen Lamar has to get involved yes you press
they're getting that exact sort of lead but then you've got imagine on paper
that they expect to be having when they play this style
draft these heroes. Playing around
every single power rune as well too, bottom
it'll spawn, Omar is going to immediately
run to the race to the rune
Alreen, this time he'll be able
to get it safely
but they're going to smoke
and look for a play
They have to blink
on the Pango from earlier
He's got even an Ogre Club too
so he is very strong
And Malrein
he is gonna do
the route of the Blade Mail as well that we saw too from Noob.
I see how prepared Falcons are to come in with the jump from Amarr with his blink.
Yeah tough for him out.
I mean Malrein does have this amp damage and he's got
the blade melt done so
both teams looking to make kind of similar movements it seems
They'll go over and try play around
the twin gate. Majority of falcons themselves leading over
towards the triangle psg quest for amar leading away with this blink ready they know this is
the real one going on immediately i do charge comes in skeeter oh whoa okay they don't actually get them in the fall
ups he just gets the chance to turn and fight right now take your car this down how does
you get out of this one there they think we're just weren't able to line up the stunts
all right well i guess what they just blew everything on the illusion
i guess i they had the charge on the real one too but then just didn't end up getting
the secondary connection at all i mean they cut the ice bar full of this completely yep and now
omar is under vision he is and he's going down as well three kills for them enough we said when
you play against falcons any mistake you make even if you've got a bit of a lead it's gonna
hurt you and maureen is happy to pull out the smiley face of course was getting tipped earlier
okay i'm going to see this he just completely whiffed yeah that was
but everything even the door breath is off the mark and they need it
rough one there for the cars if they get that ice pop it easily buys enough time
as well from alec to step up and get the raw follow-up yeah but even i
mean maybe they would just answer too because snaking's coming in with a mech and a hand of god
too so falcons end up just getting into perfect opportunity putting the aggressive wards down
in the triangle while also being able to run and catch that.
They're back in it, and if you quest
their lineup can't make these type of mistakes.
Quest? I want to keep fighting.
Oh my.
They got out a perfect target.
They're going to get the Doom and the Focus Riot down towards the Pangolin,
they are gonna be able to run him out of the team fight as that's Noob gone!
Uh-oh. Two big mistakes. Falcons capitalizing.
They're chasing down Omar.
There is another reality check. Falcon's capitalizing. They're chasing down Omar.
There is another reality rift. Yeah, they've got him pretty good.
Dragon back here trying to charge away but it's too late.
Snake takes it down with the final right flick.
Uh-oh!
These mistakes... They are falling apart a little bit. have fallen apart too many of them ta 2000 is still farming
well but now there's malrine completely back in it yep and skita he's so close to the same
amount of farm as that the brew, indeed the items are flying out.
He's got the Orchid so now Pango
has to be careful in some of these situations
to jump in, same thing for the Beastmaster
Always at risk with
these sort of draws, the PSG quest when they run this brute they want to play fast
you start to make mistakes you start to slip up the game it can get very hard
very quickly they got to keep trying to go for these plays though if they slow down
the pace of the game it's just going to fall into Falcon's
favor, it feels like. So let's see what they do
with that next move. Feels like a very
crucial for them that needs to be successful.
They're gonna go for this one. I mean, they have to keep going for these moves. And yeah Ducalus you just can't miss his spells like this.
What are they gonna find?
Great.
Steps up, breaks the smoke and will immediately reset away.
Do they want to try
to threaten something like this up here
since they have the pango
and they have the brood?
It might be an option.
Okay, this is a pretty good move.
Doesn't get them to kill but at least gives them these edges
just to be able
to fight right afterwards
but I definitely want
to see them look
to fight right after
they get there
since they've got
the aggs timing
on the Beastmaster
and so they've got
this Manta and stuff stuff yeah they have to
falcons can definitely fight back their doom is
on cooldown for 20 seconds but let's see if psg
quest can find an opportunity to get the ball
rolling again yeah they've gotta look for it
they can't sit back no i don't know i want to see these little things down
and speaking of malarine also he did get his blade milk because his courier died before
and he does have a vitality booster too so he is tanking up quite a lot here
well now that they're down here of course we've had revealed everything with the spiders trying to take the tier one towers and they gave him Alex at ages too thinking
that he's the primary target to have it that does leave some vulnerability for noob
yeah we have seen in our last few fights if they were able to find do
the doom onto noob he's just out of it
he's got to just kind of wait then.
He has to come in afterwards.
He does have the blink,
so the Beastmaster
kind of just walks in
and baits them
and then the pango can follow up
and Newbass would just be
very careful
with his positioning.
Next fight could be
pretty crucial for them.
There are lots of wards up here, so they are watching all the Falcons.
They have like three wards up here on this side of the Dyer.
We're very different sort of vibe now, I mean we're not seeing
PSG Quest like
Omar leading with the charges at any
opportunity, they're going to be much more
careful about how they take
a fight.
Korea's not there as well.
Wait, what killed him?
What did he kill him with?
Did he buy the ultimate weapon and then's just like it looks like a creeper
or something i guess he was farming with his spiders in the career pass
they would say chen oh wouldn't it let's get a replay
hey don't know it's quite a bit of stuff you're right must have just been a random oh definitely painful to
lose that as falcons they get another item timing shiva's finished up for amar he's got
the blink and shivas now for this next upcoming fight and they have all these auras on top while
on the side of because you guys don't have these auras yes they have all these auras on top while on the side of PC Quest,
they don't have these auras. Yes, they have Aegis but...
Falcons.
He's in for a target.
They're going to be able to find the sun it's one of what the car is
there to follow up with pulverize hopefully just want to let this chakira go down and not try
and fight back here quest they've got to run back away yeah i think instant disengage there's
a blink on Malik too
so if they do have multiple forms of engaging
Skeeter might be ready to go again
You can see how aggressive Skeeter wants to be
He is ready to blink
So there it is!
He's into the setup straight away
It's gonna be up towards Malik
Of course the one with the ages for now i think just
dies though no mark he's getting in the back up
coming and they've got to try and fight this ps2 quest
nope some of the rolling thunder because the jump over was crippled i select the
wind ranger first crit or try and run away if the slows are coming in
yeah she get out of this crypt might actually live he gets out they couldn't kill him
crip will finally die but he's done his job!
He's been such a distraction
and the rest of PSG Quest are just getting completely
handled there close to their base.
They're getting outplayed, they're getting outmoved.
Falcons is so ready
that just completely dodged
Noob's roll
and then just reset
and go on the next targets
That's a buyback
you can feel the desperation
from Ducalus
He's like we need
to win this next fight
And they don't get anybody I mean they just get crit they don't get any of
those big targets yeah and that's here crit it was all the
distraction it really was he pulled them away and
the roll came out and by the time he gets to the high ground he's like
i can't she cannot walk into that there uh oh yes request you made a fantastic game in game two but
this is one of those lineups that really doesn't want to make these type of mistakes early.
A couple of those have now compounded.
CK
at the top. Same thing for that Doom and TA2000
overall. He's got a Manta
but yet to see him really get involved with any aggression and he's going
down the lincoln's route too so no orchid or anything to be that aggressive let's see again
just this dive that they're able to get away with because tier 2000 and omar
they're just elsewhere chasing crit
the carless has no one to save him as you say out to buy him back
and amarr finding the doom target perfectly once again this time drop down
onto mallet oh and he's put for the blink as well that gets out i mean there's a charge coming in
but no way you want to continue that one i don't think you want to try and take this fight over
their side of the river skater is he's playing so well on the CK, as he tends
to. I mean, he gets sometimes forgotten
because of how well Mallorine and Amar
plays but yeah, the timings
that he's gotten there are incredible
and he can play super aggressive in comparison to TA-2000 overall.
Yes, he's got Manta Lincolns,
but it's a pretty defensive item build overall from the side of TA-2000
in comparison to Skitter.
He could just Blink Orc and just kill pretty much any target that he does find.
Much harder for th2000 flying kills in these fights yeah
he's kind of just like a cleanup person
definite concerns coming out for psg quest in these next upcoming moments even though they got
the ages and stuff like that they couldn't even formulate a fight to be able to match up versus
falcon who just ran at them maureen now has eternal shroud and blade melt too so unbelievably tanky now on him
unlikely he is going to get brought down unless they bring five isolate him
they've got a firm grasp of this game now 23 minutes with this lead
i'll play careful probably wait for the next row shot
falcons before they try and go
for any aggressive push. I think they're
also probably telling each other too that
we completely came back in this one
after a little bit of a rough stuff from our lane
all it took was two pretty massive fights for them to just be in
such a huge lead so they can probably you know just play a little bit more defensively and
just wait for another mistake that comes out from psg quest if they claim a high ground fight
quest of course from psu quest if they claim a high ground fight
quest of course they have to continue putting up smoking every opportunity the problem is falcons they're prepared for it they smoke up themselves
they see new noob it's gonna try and go for
it he's probably going to have to decide against this pretty Nuve is gonna try and go for it.
He's probably going to have to decide against this pretty quickly.
It's a little deep.
Now they might re-engage onto him too,
he has to be careful.
Marine throws the rock.
Doesn't quite connect. The Parashot will clip him though. Marine throws the rock.
Doesn't quite connect the
power shot will clip him though
and be able to blink out
because of shield rune.
Yeah, Skeeter was a little bit closer
he would have definitely gone for that
no rolling Thunder now
for 60 seconds Falcons is going to look to push their advantage skitter looking for his target it's a boar
wanted to get a bigger one obviously but there we are nine pets have been killed
the quest just having to hide every time the falcons really gets on their half of the map
psg quest what are they waiting for next
they have 40 seconds no rolling thunder
so they can't fight without it
they need to have every single cooldown
and they need to hope for some type of
dream engagement that they can catch
falcons off guard losing my tattoo well it's full sound the fortification echo seven nearly
done on tier 2000. maybe that'll be the call to go with
that one just does feel like they're running into some difficulties crit
just continuing to push this tower the four position taking us
they're gonna allow him to do this and try to set up on them charge coming through
doesn't want to chase the high ground though snaking's about to have the pipe so
they're about to have mech pipe on their lineup on top of having these three beefy
cores damage could definitely be an issue in that next fight too even if psg quest finds
angles to catch these heroes they're very durable now.
He also, I believe has a great healing lotus
I mean seeing Sinead gather these lotuses as well too
always something to try and keep track of
And they have the drum. So in comparison,
any auras on the side of PSG Quest?
None. They have four
staff on the Jakiro and it's going to be a
Shadow Blade finished up for Omar. So on the 5v5
definitely problematic. Potentially maybe look for just pickoffs now
to try to slow down the ball of falcons since they have this shadow blade on the spirit breaker but
falcon isn't really splitting up not giving omar the opportunity to use the Shadow Blade.
These quiet moments just can't feel too good for PSU Quest.
Doesn't feel like it at all.
TF2000's yet to get involved, he's still top network.
He is with Beth.
How much can you actually do in these fights versus
these super beefy cores with auras?
Yeah, it's tough to sort of see him getting the damage out
unless the fight gets laid out perfectly
by the rest of the team.
Or somehow they can like...
It feels like it has to be such a long duration team fight they get like
multiple instances of all these spells that the colors will show himself
he's got four staff and an ice puff he's very dead
there's a charge coming in but just it's not going to save you.
Omar is not gonna want to go over here.
The carlet's gone!
Falcons...
Yeah look at Omar he had the midas uses it a couple times sells
it he's got a full bkb now on top of everything too so
on top of being incredibly durable with the auras now he's got that magic immunity to
just to be able to pick and choose whatever target he wants to go for with doom we'll just have to worry about aurora the blink dagger on marion as
well so even easier for him to find the catches and what neutral anybody get too we'll see in a second
just firm grasp of the game falcons not making a mistake not giving quest an opportunity to try
to snipe anybody who split up because they're really not splitting up at all.
TA-2000 trying to apply pressure on bottom
so they are trying to split the map
They're trying to make Falcons kind of split up
so that they can get these pickups with their blink roars
with their Shadow Blade on the Spirit Breaker but but Falcons is just... They're not really reacting
to this. They're still just looking to play together.
That does mean that TA-2000 does get a
nice tower for himself though.
How's the Harpoon? Wants to get the Bb so you can you've got to imagine then with the man to
the lincoln's the harping and the bkb that's gonna be fight time i mean maybe he does feel like he
can just be that fighter versus everybody by himself, but definitely
does not feel the easiest because they could just prioritize
the Doom onto him if they break the Lincolns.
And without the Broodmother
if he does get Doomed it does feel like their damage is going to be
only from the Pango at this point since there
is that pipe it's gonna counteract a lot of the beast and rush it is back up
skater will start it.
Can they even contested on the side?
I don't think so,
I don't think so is concerning
gonna go down pretty quick and easy here.
Yes request not likely to be able to make the move over here in time.
Falcons, being a pick up on this they can start to lift or really push it
up to the high ground I don't think there's scared of much coming out from
PSG Quest right now no
it's not feeling like it and we've seen multiple lincolns and stuff being queued
up for the side of psg quest another one queued up on newb they're trying to find answers just
maybe for this doom and stuff but yeah everybody else is starting to get these critical mass points
i mean t2000 is doing a good job just being very obnoxious with the spiders though this bottom
tower dropped mid-tower he's actually able to apply good pressure with his fighters too
but it's just what is he
gonna be able to do when the 5v5 kicks off as the question it's been quiet for
some time usually these games have these quiet moments it culminates in like one fight.
See how that does end up going down.
Trying to lane control as best possible. Omar just charging these waves.
Falcons, as you said, they're looking to force the issue here.
Craggycoat was the option there for Maureen.
Sorry it took me a second to see which one he did grab
and they did get Vindicators on the ck
pretty great neutral items that they're able to grab
taking the tower here. Aegis and cheese as well too, so yeah. Essentially have to go through these heroes
so many times
they're gonna be ready to try and break the base now falcons
bestie quest how strong is their high ground look at the macro Now Falcons, just your quest.
How strong is their high ground?
Look at the macro pilot down first for the first wave.
They've got some good ways to stall it out
between the axes and that macro.
We'll push Falcons back into T2000.
He's actually done quite a bit more
damage to bottom so he is still doing this
annoying broodmother things
yeah looks like it will just be BKBs to be able
to look for that 5v5 by Omar.
Chris is going to try and help out.
Just on the gen he's much too tough
to take down.
That was like the one time that falcons has kind of split
up for a second there almost omar almost gets an opportunity but immediately they regroup
not giving this spirit breaker chances to get the pick-offs that he was in the early game.
Bottom lane being pushed around Falcons, they can look to take this tier 2
The lanes are something they always gotta just keep watching because there's a lot of ways to just invisibly push these lanes the spirit breaker and
these spiders and even the boars she's kind of trying to keep these waves out omar
seem to have read where he is this time they're gonna find him he's
going to try and run mosquitoes in with the rift drag back
if anybody knows how to play versus these annoying split pushers and stuff, it's Falcons. I mean this is
their kind of strategy when they do fall behind
they do tend to try to do these cutting of creep waves
and stuff and I used to call that the Curtis
special you know the Owie special he was just very
annoying with like visage birds and stuff so
psg quest they're trying to do this but yeah every time falcons does find something here
and they're also just growing that lead it's up 3k just during this Aegis timing
boards and spiders all over the place
any sort of lines coming out soon for psd quest it's just the bkb timings that they were
getting they do i believe have they have the two and they have the lincolns on the pango
i mean it is a bit of a timing sit together but maybe
just waiting for that ages to go down before they look for a fight it's 90 seconds but falcons
just getting more out of the map damage room as well here to push in with Falcons now means even just queuing up a heart at this
point not even feeling like he wants to go for that BKB because of the roar super durable the Falcons roar. Super durable.
The Falcon Special.
Yeah, just sticking together.
Nobody's ever playing alone. I mean Skeeter was for about 10 seconds there but then the rest of his team comes over
and looking to call us this kind of tells a tale
how much they want to just
try to keep these waves attempted to be cut here but can't finish off the entire
one still just under a minute now with the
ages on Falcons so for the most part of course overall falcon's
have managed to get a fair bit of gold gain as you can see 5k up during this agent's time not
yet breaking the base and looking to go for
the high ground so but maybe a window for psg quest
to get out with some sort of smoke play whilst this
ages expires but do they really have to go for that
high ground the way that they're scaling
up try and take this game as late as
they want to yeah
they're feeling pretty uh pretty solid
with their spot
yeah they can just keep getting that
farm on everybody because it is
increasing so much even the chain has
started to get closer and closer
to these Beastmaster and Pangol kind of levels,
they're turning into these cores as well
with all this farm they were able to get.
Now he gets a free shard also on the Chen So he's going to be able to pick up some Ancients
as well inside of these next upcoming fights. from our there with the opening rolling kind of they're able to put their link because they get a full-on roar they're moving over towards beginning
force that we just dragged back down by the harpoon
the ice path macropile laid down onto him
but how much is not bad by the nether strike
they've got it and killed the doom
can they get something more new jumps on this frog because skidder he's chilling on
the cliff do you think he's up here do they know i don't know if they know he's there
they do jump down oh yes he's going to try and jump down a little towards dakalis but now
it's kind of separated for the rest of the team. He's getting chased out.
The Harpoon are dragging back,
gets forced back,
but they're in with the Roots!
Pass to Cheese!
Back up to pretty much full HP,
continue to retreat,
Maorin comes into the onslaught,
they'll turn towards him instead
and have the charge backup
because of the bash into the Ice Pio is getting low he still alive he's never to pack away
jump over the shield crash barrier could see a two thousand finish him off he can
see it as against it gets the kill quick Quickman sets a pop to get that way into
the tree line and TP out!
Nice TP! He survives!
P2 Quest they pushed for the fight
They managed to get two cores. That was
so many little things that happened.
I was so clutch kind of coming out the chain stun
that they able to get and then the harpoon drag back
onto Amara finishing him off,
They actually were maybe
there probably going to get skitter as well too
The communication that must
have happened between the team is actually crazy he backpacked his item maureen runs next
to him hands in the cheese so you can pop it that was split second kind of stuff there coming in
how did he end up on the clip do you guess i'm knocked up how is it how did he end with the clip did you get
something knocked up by a charge or did he phantasm his way up there i think he fantasmed
then got put up there i didn't quite get to see we'll have a look in a second so this start here
amman taken down and then keep your eyes on Skeeter to the sun.
Oh this was actually...
But look at the item, back box the Manta
And watch Mal'Reem hands him the cheese
Like how do you do that in the midst of these kind of crazy fights?
Because this is a fight where ps2 quest was very likely just
kind of probably going to kill all three quarters there if that didn't happen
now once the mono got all three still a big fight nonetheless for west
he's in deep and And he's been found.
Spits a charge off him,
backup's coming in,
they've got a rolling thunder
coming through!
And Skeeter...
Oh,
he's kind of trapped
in a pretty rough spot here,
get the Phantasm off!
They've got to do it
on the Brood.
But indeed,
Tier 2000's
gotta be careful now.
Alec jumps in, Raw's there
Macropire down as well onto Skeeter
He's bugging!
They've killed the CK
Now they're going to try and chase for more tier 2000
Doom is soon to end on him.
He was perfectly fine, they didn't get anywhere close
to killing off the brute this time round.
Omar? I mean making magic happen really
that shards coming in from behind them and
I do have to say you know
They did go a bit of a greedy route on the side of Falcons buying
the heart on the CK. He's also going
a heart on the Primal Beast but it didn't go BKBs
Seeing the control come in
seeing the magic damage coming in, its adding up
Absolute signs of life if you quest a pretty incredible something the game was slowing down Falcons were getting everything they
wanted to but quite funny now two opportunities
to make these sort of plays absolutely
they're coming out on top of t2000 is getting involved and we're seeing it
even if they lay down the dune onto him but
it's pretty easy by looks a bit for the rest of the team to give him that space
To get out of the fight and reset
Omar, they're looking for Omar
The shackle shot
And the focus fire, Omar
He's taking through it
He's walking away He's taking it through it. He's walking away!
He's gonna live!
Amar is going for the BKBTP out, they got anything to stop if they don't?
Amar gets away...
Malik was so close to being able to come in and get the Roar.
PSG Quest are outplaying so hard in these fights this is beautiful to see yeah they're really they're already giving it to falcons
at the sense that like falcons we've seen this in a lot of their games right where they deal with
the early aggression of their team.
They're able to hold the game at a point where they just farm the map.
They take their time,
they don't try and rush the end Falcons and normally they get away with it.
They do.
They get further and further ahead
until the game is safe enough to close up but pierce request turning up today
saying no we're going to put a stop to that you're not in a comfortable spot these are
aren't just sit back and farm them out we're gonna find our way out onto it
and fight our way back into the game.
They are still down 7k, but if they keep these sort of plays that
they're gonna be able to do against Falcons playstyle
what other teams have struggled to ever do?
Absolutely! I mean if they can keep getting these type
of chain sequence stuns and control
onto these heroes you could
see some problems come in definitely for the side
of Falcons
I mentioned the BKB there is a lot of spells
that pierce it but there's a lot of damage
which has been getting amplified.
I'm seeing like even Macro Pyres
this control that comes in
just to get that follow-up chain stuns
so PSG Questown
are even going to be able
to set up for a Rose Shearer.
This is huge
and this is an Aghanims one too so it's a pretty massive one that they're gonna be able to climb probably just fool you give it to do
call us I might just keep it to the chiquera
omar's going to take it i mean planter pocket is going to be pretty valuable but they're deciding
which one wants to have it yeah give it a decalus yeah he's gonna take it all right there definitely
is some you know planner pocket situations where they could have like maybe caught a doom
or something like that but I
Think he's buying one of his own yes
Pocket could actually come into play massively too
to absorb the Doom and stuff
to protect on top of these Lincolns
and everything in Tier 2000.
He's getting damage items too.
Bastion is on his way out ready to go for the abyssal
i mean this is beautiful stuff here from psg quest the game is just back even
i mean as i say and falcons when they've got the game into the position that
they've had it they don't normally get shaken up like
this it's normally kind of done and dusted and that's sort
of what the way that they play like they do though like this game is ours we'll take everything and
we'll close it up when we've got those incredible advantage but yeah quest fighting back and taking
their lead pretty much completely away now with their last few plays.
Just only a 1k gold for Falcons,
at 39 minutes in it's basically dead even.
They won't lose Noobs' Courier
didn't have a full AC on
Oh he didn't get any time it got sniped oh it got sniped okay not snipe so
there's an ac on the sidelines for the next three minutes they're gonna smoke anyway because they
have the ages right now they're feeling strong especially if they can get these type of chain stuns.
I mean everybody's getting really farmed, even the J'Kyro as we see there since he got the Aghanims.
His damage is nothing to laugh at anymore
see how confident they feel about hitting a high ground omar
don't get the jump on him but backup's gonna come in malik simple ron joshita oh mark can you survive through. Comes out to the side.
They're still trying to chase down
the Spirit Breaker.
Surely they get him?
He's juking through the trees.
They've found him!
But this is more time for the rest of
the point without him.
Drop a Doom onto Malik.
Ducalis off the mark with the Ice Path
and a Force Up to the high ground
the cars get shredded by skeeter in the phantasm mallet will be able to get away but falcons
even during that age this timing they've been able to find an opportunity
2000 was nowhere near the realms of that fight.
I think they're taking priorities
and just looking for Omar now.
I think this Spirit Breaker
is actually kind of
owning us a bit here.
They do bring him down,
they try to bail him out
but they can't quite.
Yeah, they've got to make sure he
dies when he charges in like that they can't allow him to slip away like he did on that top fight
this game is delivering on all fronts a push now commencing even if there's an ageist they're
trying to get something out of it
on the side of Falcons
potentially even taking
this Tormentor away.
This Sirius has gotten
so excited.
So exciting.
Hamar has queued up in
Aghanims, I believe he's probably seeing that
there's the Planner Pocket available too so now he's wanting
to have this AoE Doom potential.
Not something you see too often on the Dooms
nowadays it tends to be just these Octarines and stuff like that but can
absolutely understand why he does want it on top of all so one two three lincolns or something
that he has to deal with they're still gonna forego those BKBs, just feeling like they don't need them.
Aghanim's next for Mal'Rin.
So all important is these initiations really are everything.
If quest, if PSG quests were able to get the chain stuns on these targets that's the key for success for them
If Falcons was able to get that blink doom onto a target that's the key key for success for them and if they can take out
the spirit breaker. Crazy stuff coming in 90 seconds left on the Aegis. And Mellring does spend out let's use all of his gold there as that flags
a bit of a slow down here for a moment but it time to breathe do they want to go with this last minute rages they maybe want to wait for the ac on noob it's 30 seconds until
it comes out on the courier yeah that's this
they are quite a big purchase to add to the lineup i mean that career kill was pretty massive
there's some run okay 2000 we'll be able to claim that one nearly having it in the 25
he's got to be able
to get absorbed with planar pocket etc fast back up toward to spike up the wall at the end with the Aegis Falcons.
Ammar switched back by the way so...
He can always switch because he is doing some stuff, so he could actually kill him with
a refresher and stuff like that but they are looking for somebody, they are looking to
claim a high ground but these spiders
keep being pretty annoying well rain he's gonna come back and
it'll deal with the push but he did show himself so they're going to instantly charge a target and they they found Skidder. And Kirit.
I don't think I can roll onto Krit.
I mean, Kirit's gone with the knockback from Omar.
They could set up another CK as well.
Skidder is going to be caught in this position
partly for the rolling thunder of Noob.
Skidder's dead as well!
Omar is just doing so much here.
Maureen, he showed himself top
the second that he shows
they make the move
and there was Gencreeps
there to answer that Brutso
maybe another mistake
there from Falcons that psg quest just
instantly capitalize on i mean if there's anybody that's going to be an mvp in this
game on the side of psq quest omar is definitely making the argument for it
just with information sure sure, his KDA
is not really that flashy 4-5-6.
The ones that he's been involved
in and what he's been able to do on the Spirit Breaker
has been highly disruptive. Yeah. I mean getting this
type of kill onto the CK is
pretty huge because
now Skeeter...
Yeah he's farmed
but he's level 20.
TA-2000 is
level 25 so a
five level disparity
between those two
carries and 30 seconds to get some type of advantage with
onto the high ground so i mean obviously i don't want to use the buyback on skidder
he's up in 20 seconds just give time though for quest to be quite a bit
it's gonna jump over the charges there they're going to drop them out reply
the ice pop the rules where they throw everything down onto marion
falcons get him out alive, they can't
He's able to back off
and maybe look to jump in themselves
Amar gets the first doom down
towards Maorins, he'll pull them back as well
They're gonna get the three of them.
Amar sees the opportunity
to charge in
and they follow up there.
They kill three
of PSG Quest off
for defense.
There's a massive success
here for Falcons.
They barely even got him
below half HP. I mean mean malorine baited
baited the hell out of them really they used bkbs to try to commit forward for him and
did they actually i think they used all of them there yeah they used all their
bkb so now falconcons it's back the other way.
Let's see how much they can do. I mean at least
they may be able to force out some of these buybacks, Falcons.
That was without the CK that they were able to just
wipe through heroes. So yeah, onto the high ground
they're going to look to go.
It's the first buy Matt from Takalis.
And there is a Doom available.
Omar, he bought the refresher
so he's got one up here.
So they have to be careful who they show.
Fortifications there.
30 seconds until Malik and Omar back in the game
it's your town top stopping fast it's gone down to the parents I was gonna see
if those anyone hiding the b as they'll hide
and it looks like they'll concede this top set of powers they want to hold on
to hold off when using the buybacks one set taken now by Falcons.
Doom is at the ready again too, so...
That Havoc Hammer from MR did a ton too in that fight. Just like the little mini vacuum 40 cut area threat.
Yeah it was actually like a Darkseer kind of play that's pretty cool
and now lincoln's up for the ck so they just don't want to be keeping you so fair enough
they just wanted they don't want it because of all these charges
in people yeah there's a lot of control outside the error charges and i and now at this point
also it's an agonist on the jokira too so you're not blocking as much of that damage
let's see i mean tier 2000 6 000 gold what does he need switching Unless he... I mean, TH1000.
6000 gold.
What does he need?
He's been switching.
What did he do there?
He's been queuing up like five different items.
I keep trying to keep tabs of it.
He had bots queued up and he switched to basher then he had a different thing queued up.
I'm not sure what he wants to go for here
wow he's already got basher oh sorry i was talking about noob
oh my god a lot of money as well i'm looking at the bank account yeah
they've both got incredible amounts of money ready to spend yeah
i have reflection feels pretty valuable on the brood i would say he's got all these usable items
and you are playing actually just across the board a lot of unspent gold on Falcons as well.
They've got their options open.
Yeah, tier 2000 commits to Gold so his movement speed is going to be quite a bit slower
to keep onto these heroes though but he will have two rounds of
BKB and the more important one is kind of like his damage for insatiable hunger
but let's see how much you can do because he is slow yeah as long as
he's got their webs to play with right you get easily enough to be closing on people
maureen also had six that way they've turned it over like you were saying so
we know i'll pick up a full item here too.
What does Maureen want?
All this money is sort of burning up... Is it like a game where a surprise Hex can do something big?
He could also just get another Lincolns
because the Roar and probably the most threat-
The Roar and the Spirit Breaker will probably feel like
the most threatening things that they have to play against.
But he's got options. We'll see which one he wants to go for
Because you can eat Aghs and open up a slot and stuff so...
I didn't hit this point.
Thrasher's up! And around the time of his request of action
I think a few at them TP'd out with this area so it wouldn't be easy for
them to get back over here if Falcons do start to do the roast themselves
they should just be able
to get this i mean have they got a smoke conquest i don't think when
i was checking they didn't have one on them so they're just gonna have to walk in
it's going to take them a bit of time now two colors have picked up the smoke
they don't get there in time maybe not you know Falcons seeing a good
opportunity to step into that bro Sean pick get all the pickups for themselves
and quest I they don't want to take a
fight out on the map into this they'll have to back off nmr to give him
the blessing right
oh they're gonna give it to Skeet. Okay. It's interesting. Very interesting.
Alright. I mean, Axe CK is
pretty fun. It is fun.
It is distractions as well too to not let you get
these right targets of the Roar
and stuff like that. Yeah, it could be pretty annoying. Interesting choice.
I really thought they were going to give it to Marv
but maybe Marv's like, I'm too rich, I'll farm more.
It's fine.
Everybody very rich at this point.
Skeeter now with the swift blink.
21,000 lead Falcons
Now cementing things a little bit better here
this time around.
Bit of back and forth that we've had
I'm starting to get these insanely durable levels though as we saw, you know have to be careful how you get baited by Malrein
That high ground push was pretty devastating
Oh, never seen this actually. Or as well, more actually be careful.
We get cool hip on the shackle.
I'm off they got him.
They absolutely have he's out 75
He's got by but that's one of
the most crucial targets it feels like for these fights.
They'll definitely want to try and push this buy back out of them.
He bought Swiftlink by the way.
Pretty cool.
Scepna Malik is going to be able to go over to Orzgrit now phone to the win ranger first bring him down low Pretty cool. Skeeter! Skeeter?
Except now Malik's gonna be able to go over towards Grit,
Now focus the Wim Ranger first, bring him down low,
They've taken Wim Ranger out,
Malik's getting turned towards by Skeeter but he's back up at full HP
Skeeter is burning
He's having a good time with the Rolling Thunder
That's the Aegis gone out of Skeeter
Charged from Omar over towards Maureen
Chieftain thousands starting to fight in the primal beast but Maureen is so tanky
The brakes coming out now as Maureen tramples about
still staying on top of him they're not back with an end strike
They are controlling him it's taking time to bring him
out and down low pistol blade comes in they've taken him out now they can turn over on skidder
they're going to be able to take about a second time 2000. oh myback alpha falcons at 2000 the refresher came in i want to see his
damage i got to see these damage numbers eight thousand six hundred on a brood just
able to wail on these targets because they're fully controlled in the fight
i mean the chain locked down the buyback coming in creating them all thinking about making a play
here they have the doom don't look towards him he's gonna blink out time alec puts
the refresher he's ready to go over the role
of turns everyone's great cripple back for this he's up for 110. can they get another mark we'll
be able to tp out but only just his teamfight execution. PSG Quest,
unbelievable stuff. It requires two buybacks
but it does get some good cleanup kills.
It also requires the refresher and double
BKBs and everything.
He's going to start playing around with the chain up top.
Can they connect?
Vakalis is closing in.
He's had another charge and five.
Vakalis has got any setup or catches it.
And then he gets a charge back back up come forward from eyes in with
a doom buyback for maureen i could find ice pop laid down over was the two of them snaking having
to back off they've killed off the spirit breaker new seconds no walmart he's gotta think carefully
about how much he wants to try and push this, he's going to start
retreating with the remainder of the Rolling Thunder
getting the play back out of Mourinho
they'll probably take that, sure Omar also
now up for 90 himself
And he is pretty crucial, his control that he's been able to apply in
these fights it's pretty massive for ta-2000s of focus these targets but a
Malarine buyback also we can't camp Falcons go through push during this 80
seconds with downtime where there's no spirit breaker,
though sure. I mean who knows now at
this point these team fights are
ridiculous how much they've been able to
do during this with his back foot.
And Malorine so other thing that
they tried can in the this fight today they always communicating
these cheese pass offs he up back drop the gem on the floor you got past cheese on Malibu wasn't
able to pop it in that last 20 cup focus fire down either i think they're killing the bkbs now it's definitely
i mean it definitely feels a little necessary maybe i'm crazy but i feel like some of these
ice pads and stuff have been pretty detrimental to control that they've
been able to provide but they have been trying
to delay it as long as possible yeah i really think is you it's as you said earlier it's just
that there's just so much very similar through the bkb for falcons this game
the whole games very much feel like do they really want to buy BKB?
They could just so much else to kill
them and control them around it. I'm sure that
they also maybe feel like in a lot of these fights,
how are we all dying? But it is just
absurd control that they've been able to provide.
But yeah, so Omar down for 20 more seconds.
Refresher on TA-2000's coming back up in 22
and he's almost at critical mass.
He's got the moonshark queued up, can probably expend that gold.
Yeah, I guess... can probably expend that gold. Now you're sort of, beyond
that yeah, you're sort of playing with something instead
of a refresher slot and swapping it out going all in
on that one fight? Yeah
Doomed Yeah. Doom back up in 10 seconds, Refresher is back up for Amar
and he's almost got 25 talent too
so it's going to be a pretty big one once he's able to get that as well.
The Mute would be pretty incredible versus that TA-2000 Brood
if he does find an opportunity.
207 spiders have been killed.
Stupid spiders. 207 spiders have been killed stupid spiders
this game is just absurd the graph is i mean the graph is actually quite interesting to see because quest has had the experience advantage pretty
much the entirety of this game there's been falcons every single time so
pretty cool to see it the wisdom ruins and stuff that they got early on and
it really was the difference between the
uh the broodmothers xp and the cks overall for the most part because he's still only 23.
27 so very interesting stuff but i have to give a lot of i have to give a ton of credit to PSG Quest just to be able to still fight back.
We were talking, panelists saying too how this is more of an early century draft and they've been
able to make some really incredible moves to keep this game
no longer really even but keep themselves in it
yeah something that other teams in this position against falcon think there's nothing i would do
no i mean most of these games has these games it's been decided very quickly
right afterwards who's going to be able to win
but yeah, so far it's been a treat
to see Falcons, they're gonna smoke up
they're gonna look to try to go for this close and play
Skeeter is absolutely massive now, he has to try to go for this closing play.
Skeeter is absolutely massive now.
He has...
9,000 gold!
Not spending it I guess.
That's true he's not got a moonshark yet has he?
No but he can die
buy back boots of travel in
And stuff like that if you'd like to go for it
Sure, saving him for the box play might be the plan
I think that is probably it
And Ammar did hit 25
So if he does land one of these dooms
Especially onto that broodmother in particular...
Could be that nail on the coffin.
Iron things up outside of the base, Falcons.
Intense moments. I missed your quest, step back! oh
missed your quest stepping out
this only can make plays really around that smoke it feels like they're trying
to find falcons a bit split up here
falcon's putting their tanky boys in the front lines
maureen just started to charge at them
quite a bit of lag there seeing which creep Creep Snaking's holding also, he's
holding the Time Warp Aura so cooldown reduction
is pretty massive. I'm trying to keep track of these
there's just so much stuff happening. He also has
the Centaur Aura for magic resist now at this point
since it is maximum so it's what 16 on hero so the auras
are something we do always have to factor in as well too in these games in these later stages
since they do get upgraded as the game goes on which they have every single one
no not the crimson but they have the important ones from the creeps
can they get some of these crazy fights again on psg quest
full ac on snaking as well yeah the aura monster
oh let's step out and clear up some vision?
The Brood micro to try to scout TA2000 sending them all over the place seeing where Falcons are playing
how do these buybacks starting to get toward?
It's one minute 40 on Nub...
He's getting close to the main backup.
Yeah, Nube and Omar almost have theirs ready.
Mal'Reen is going to take a little bit longer
but it looks like PSG Quest they want to be a little bit cautious until those in
particular stepping out a little bit around their one ward they have
this skater spent some of that gold? He did, right.
Okay so he bought the moonshard.
Starting to approach here Falcons.
Pussy quest also reaching out towards the middle of the
map Malvin bought the BKB finally by the way and they have a zone up ancient granite golem
ancient frostbitten Golem
and they have Ancient Black Dragon.
So when you see them near this Granite Golem
there actually at 6500 HP on the tanky cores.
Once it gets closer to them
You'll see.
It pumps up like a thousand HP on each of the strength cores or so.
They just start going for the base.
Starting to force it in.
Looks like they're playing for the chance of getting roshan first look at these hp pools and 5 300 on doom 5200 on ck we'll see how much
the base they lose for this trade as they are opting to well looks a bit let the full set of bottom rack
probably go for this it's a trade that they're making the chance to make see if
it pays off i'll say only half the rest gone for now maybe they're able
to hold on to the
melee we've got the charge coming in they left cheese but whatever but hey
you know what they only lose the range the mail rat stays alive so psg quest
they make the decision to go for that trade.
Doesn't end up too badly for them at all.
And they get their buybacks back available
while everybody's got it ready
as you will see the cheese ferment in the pit.
There is a courier going out for it, right?
Yeah, you're right.
They're gonna be able to retrieve that for themselves. They're even still thinking about all that stuff
and this craziness of a game as we're approaching
the 60-minute mark, the wra wrap around. There's a ward placed.
Falcons are they ready for this one?
They're claiming the high ground themselves.
Full TP out here from Falcons.
They do not want to try and fight in this position.
I mean they have their CK taking out mid he actually finished off the racks just because of
that so they kind of knew that that move was coming potentially here almost almost getting all these level 25s as well too
the fastest tormentor i've ever seen just immediately evaporates and that was what
like the third or fourth one as well. Oh, and we might
get the 60-minute one coming in. We're definitely
getting 60-minute ones. Looking like it.
Can you imagine if they get these giant rings on
these three tanky cores as well?
They're going to have 8, 8 000 hp or 7000 hp plus on this primal beast in
particular and what does skeeter even do with this one now you guys probably get rid of the
treads right only swiveling and the tread steer get that treds up so he has got 11 000 gold
fight's going on it is nareen they're going in on him he might have nearly 6 000 hp can't they kill
him off he's able to unsw away he's still alive and indeed is able
to walk out snaking hill full very quickly now the tender will ski just
get it over get the blink off stop the lincoln's was propped
t2000 did use bkb miss nike's out for 80. little little shot on the flyback we'll see if they won't try
to do anything with this quest they're bringing in the creep wave trying to but they are being
taught pretty hard there's just illusions of plenty and creeps have plenty cutting
the waves so they actually just have to back up off of it's just getting a kill on the channel and then we're very close that
is not my ring but indeed that yeah five-and-a-half thousand HP will do
that allow you to walk away from the more dire situations.
5,500 HP and raid boss auras just applied onto him there.
This game is absolutely crazy.
PSG Quest still looking for an opportunity to jump semi Malik has so much control as this beast master, double roars, double hexes
See if they can get the execution to kill these tanky cores
It's anyone's game if they do get that good jump on one of these
course it is a bit difficult because of how tanky they are but let's see as the pre-midas
prepping for the 60 minute mark skitter
Must be able to guarantee those neutral items 10 seconds
And quest push for this
2 minutes left for the ages tier 2000.
push marion trying to get some sort of stunner skinny jump forward but the
link has been put they're in with the raw
can they focus the ck the macro pike is laid down they're all in on towards
skidder getting caught by their missile blade
he is out!
He's got buy.
They'll have to consider using the buyback here they will get Malik in return
he'll immediately buy back to keep this fight going
The Shackleshot latches on towards TO2000
Of course he's got that Aegis even if it goes down
the one for catch
with the power shot jump forward from a mile they take
the spider down the once mario reason on shorts over towards the back let's try
to find him out but in mars every get the healer factor full hp here
on the spirit break he's looking for an angle to get backed in on this maurice
jumped up to the high ground.
Kind of a retreat now APS-D quested carless.
Focused down by Kripp with the Focus Fire.
There are too many illusions.
Maureen can you catch anything else with the onslaught?
Trying to close it over towards 8000 miles.
In with a jump!
He jumps straight in! He's having a so if they put some play down towards them
back into the shield craft they're focusing towards the doom but i'm
he's falling solo team that gets moved down by the power shot buyback now for
tier 2000. you'll start to boost your travel over
here but it was noob he likes you up that no he's in he's
in he's ready to fight round two at t2000
kind of panicking though because noob is
in trouble skier and grip down triple
triple kill for skeeter omar only just leaking away at the side of the fight.
Tier 2000 still...
He's backing off, he can't help Dicalis.
Dicalis is caught outside of their base
That's two heroes dying back!
What a Doom from Omar He's about to throw the doom on the blue and then
he sees the beastmaster we just bought back right in front of me he throws it onto him
and malik he's gone he's so crucial for the fight i mean now they're going to try
and hold three versus five falcons they may have just done it here.
We're not going to get the 60-minute neutrals.
We hit the 60 minutes
but they're looking to close it out.
What can they do?
Three versus five.
The illusions.
Omar caught by the Suns
is going to get dragged back
by Skeeter.
Omar is out, he has got the buyback at the ready.
Maui has got the par for eyes straight over towards the pango noob!
He's gone! They're over towards the Ancient.
One final judge will run Omar but GG is is called falcons will close up this game three
they'll be moving on and they knock psg quest out of the competition this almost felt like some type
of grand finals match honestly this was pretty incredible falcons had
the gold lead the entire game and psu quest is still bringing it to him in a lot of these
fights this was really really cool that was tons of foundation requests to be able to
fight later in the stages with a draft
that potentially could have fallen off earlier.
Some cool plays, but Falcons they endure
and tank up with their type of strategy right?
6000 HP heroes endure
the pressure and they'll be able to hold on to it that was quite a game
that we got yeah quest they gave them a great fight on the way out here on this one falcons
just too strong at the end of the day and indeed Amar stepping things up once more
Closing out this game with beautiful plays, and Skeeter as well
Getting an insane amount of farm ends up with over 900 GPM on the Chaos Knight after this one Steve to 95 and 12 53 K net
worth as we've got some sort of a 61 minute mark with that amount of
progress in jumps but he was able to make sort of you know the last few
things it even sort of quit you know the last few things
and even sort of crit those shatter shots towards the end
coming in, catching PSG Quest out one by one
they really gave it their all, PSG Quest in this game 3
You absolutely can't take that away from them but it just wasn't enough
folks no falcons too strong yeah too strong and just yeah some really well executed team fights
and stuff like that i mean you see them even talking about stuff like that man that actually
was felt a lot harder than perhaps it looked
like it could have been since they got there so early versus
this broodmother draft.
This game delivered everything.
Like I said, it felt almost like a grand finals match.
That was really cool.
Team Falcons. Something about this team. grand finals match that was really cool yeah team falcons you know something
about this team even in this sort of position where it looked like there
might have been a chance for psg quest to punch back
they're able to draw an obvious request but falcon's thing you had to close
this one up eventually after
the 60 minute mark, we're heading over to the stage now
for a post game interview with Skeeter
Thank you very much
I'm joined by Skinner of
Falcons
as they continue their lower bracket by Skinner of Falcons!
As they continue their lower bracket run and as a result of that,
that means that PSG Quest
your region mates are eliminated.
So Noob if you don't mind
could you please join me up front and pass your key on over?
It was a heck of a run. And Skinner I haven't seen Falcons get pushed to the limit like this in
a long time. What was it like playing against Quest in that series?
I think they played actually very good. I want to highlight their carry player TA2000
I think he played very fucking good even though he ended
up losing. So respect to him. Yeah they play extremely
good and we played better. There was a lot of sloppiness from us
and from them as well. Somehow we got lucky and managed to win
and hopefully, we're gonna win against Tundra as well.
If I could go through piece by piece
Game 2 is kind of when I started to notice
the sloppiness really start to set in
It was somewhere around a bottom Roche fight
where you guys went in without crit,
but they also went in with four heroes
and then from that on
the series seemed to be kind of
a little reckless from both sides I I don't really see Falcons getting nervous
or get kind of sloppy, what was going on?
I don't know if we got nervous or what
but we kinda betrayed our fundamentals
and like...
I dunno, kind of lost ourselves in this series
and hopefully we're going to regroup
and play better.
How are your adrenaline levels right now?
How does this rank among stressful series
that you've played in your career?
I'm high from this win.
The fans are crazy, they're cheering us up
so I am just very happy to be here
And then how are you going
to calm yourself down for the next few hours?
Because you're not done with a day yet,
You still got to face up against Tundra.
I'm gonna try to meditate a little bit
and just do you know... do nothing.
Well the first thing that you have to do before all of that though is get this key crushed
as your journey continues Skidder congratulations on a minimum
of top 4 in $400k as we pass it back to the studio.
Well that was a fantastic closing game to this series.
Congratulations to Falcons
for making it through, but boy what a
ride for everyone involved.
Do you want to start at the
start of the game, Jenkins? Because I kind of feel
like... No, I want to go from the end
of the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just there's
so much to talk about. That was one of the best games
in a very long time. There
was people messing
up. There was extremely clutch plays from both sides
there's that one fight in the mid lane
where TA2000 did a mat to dodge
on Windrunner shackle and then he went
to high ground and then there's also
the harpoon onto low ground when they were done with
four staffing and trying to save Malarine.
It's like both sides played so many of the fights flawlessly,
both sides had periods where they screwed up in a fight,
the other team took advantage and then
in the future, they've regrouped
and played the next fight flawlessly.
How many highlights did we send him for that?
Let's just be honest here.
I lost five or six
different highlights. Change that one!
Change that one! This is the most important
fight. No, this is the most important fight.
No, this is the most important fight until the
very end of the game where they just kept fighting
that we didn't even see 60 minute
neutral items because they were so
focused on the buybacks are so focused
on winning the game that was a great
game of dota i'm glad i got to watch
that one yeah
i mean this this game it just had it all from early fighting to movements like
like jenkins said everyone making some mistakes but then being clutched the way
they're moving around the map how you're itemizing and like consistently
like adjusting on what is your new
win condition because the game changed.
I must say, I'm very sad for Quest
cause i feel like they held onto this
game so well for so long
with so many nice plays,
but eventually they just fell like
so short.
That was so close!
It was actually so...
I just want to shout out Quest.
I mean that was my favorite series of Dota
that I've watched this entire tournament.
It was incredibly high skilled and watching it the whole time it really did feel like quest had to be playing better at every step that they
were dominant in that game because their draft put them
in a situation where ultimately it was
easier for Falcons to have
that win condition in the fight, right?
You doom the Beastmaster. It really
was that simple where they get a lot of their
firepower removed when that Beastmaster is doomed.
And we saw that come into play at the very end
when they were pushing that high ground,
they threw everything in their tank basically to kill the CK
but the CK buyback, Beastmaster dies, Doom refreshes Doom,
Beastmaster dies again.
It sounds like an oversimplification
but there is way too much to talk about
but Falcons well played as usual
but Quest that was incredible.
It was it was incredible.
It was great to watch.
We're going to take you through some of the highlights
that we did end up choosing.
The first one is actually very early on, Jenkins.
Okay this is why I'm saying the game had everything
because even the lane-cutting shenanigans
is like really, really next level.
This is something that Valorant invented.
He cuts the wave,
he goes and he forms jungle camps
and he does this in particular
when the bounty rune is going to spawn
so he can refill the bottle
but then the fortification
comes out on the wave
from Noob
and you can look
on the minimap
Noob was chasing him with
their creepwave
and then ducali's head is over to try
to cut him off
at the top lane it's like there are so
many five-head plays going on
in this game from minute zero
and it didn't stop until 60 minutes.
We need a doctor, we need Dr. Suleiman Elhabib
to come here and check these guys out
because their heart...
They're not good right now. like he needs to meditate on skeeter
the amount of adrenaline must be incredibly high after a match like that we also had an
incredibly clutch play in the mid lane effie yeah i mean this fight here um really great engagement by quest they start on
that doom and they managed to isolate him from his team and then here you can see mr skeeter he
blinks onto the high ground we We were asking ourselves, what happened?
Why is he on the cliff?
No, she blinked onto the cliff and that allowed for us
to have this window where CK just was not in the fight
And then here after CK's done they dive him
but he gets the cheese passed
in here by Malorine and she
cheeses which makes them live a lot longer
then they turn and they focus
on the primal beast but primal beast
lives through this because of all the auras.
The Greaves' aura comes into play here at the Blade Mill.
T8000 has to overcommit for this, then he runs away!
Mountain Dodges his Chackle, TP's out and that was such a high-skilled fight
there is no way we don't highlight that one.
It goes into the tree line,
and then Skeeter also blinked out of the Hydra after
couldn't find him because he's perfectly in the tree line
where he couldn't be found.
This game is a masterpiece.
S tier.
This is an S tier game at Dota.
S plus.
There's one more
highlight we'd like to
take you through,
Kazen.
Yeah, I have to use
my brain one moment.
All right here so
they're like defending
it's a very even
game but this is what
the best teams do
they know that the primal beast can't really die
but they put him so much in front where quest kind of like they'll take debate you get a double four
step back now they're actually too deep they have no more bkbs and this is where falcons
you know they go when you have the mini vacuum with the Havoc Hammer
because it's 1K
This game is literally even-steven but
this one little play where
you put the guy into right position
Boom Jenkins! You're back.
The double force F.
I had no idea what highlight was going to come out of this because it
was the last one where like this is the most important fight.
This is the most important fight.
I don't even know if that was the one.
Did you know?
No. Who cares? I knew. i don't even know if that was the one did you know no
okay but let's be real because after that we still had so many more fights
that could easily have been potential for a recent highlight.
And they were all like that, yeah.
They were incredibly hyped.
It's good if it was RNG to highlight and I could've made it sound hype.
Yeah.
Because they all worked.
It was hype but I will want to talk about the very last fight
The one that secured the win for falcons because
i do feel that right up until the very moment it could have still gone the other way we saw
them pick off chen and he's like okay this is the moment
that we like this was already after that but like the fact that they're all three
here and they all buy back for that i feel
like malik if he didn't go in there you know we would have seen
ta 2000 die but he would have had fireback
yeah i mean they had to do this it's just like these sort of situations where you're playing
the wind like yeah you just have one or two seconds and it's like do you press the bible
go do your not sometimes you Sometimes in this case you do it
then afterwards you go into deep
I mean they do have less experience
so maybe some of that goes in
but sometimes if you play to win, you fall flat.
That is a great point because late game dota is really about who uses
buybacks better and fountains use their buyback sweater yeah ultimately in the last fight request
misplayed them a little bit after playing so well
the entire game yeah and a little bit at. And that's all that was needed.
It is, that's the beautiful thing and
really annoying thing about Dota
not only is it a game where you have to be strategically minded
and thinking about strategy on many levels, like if you're playing 5D chess
You stop focusing for a second
And die without buyback
The entire game is over
And lose $1 million That's the way it goes without buyback and the entire game is over and you lose a million dollars.
That is the way it goes.
In this case, it's $100,000.
But the chance that they'll get more.
This one year was for $400,000. It's still a crazy difference.
We had to choose an MVP of the series and it was really difficult.
We could make a case for anyone in either team to be our PlayStation MVP.
But we ended up going for Maureen,
because even like the games before that final game
he played top tier and I think it is no surprise, Kezu, that Maureen is our MVP.
Yeah you know this guy he's pretty good there's a good reason that he's one of the best up-and-coming players
playing his little Primal Beast.
Pretty nerdy hero but, you know, he's one of the
best players, had a great performance, well deserved MVP.
Well deserved MVP and he's joining us right
now. Hey Maureen, how are you doing?
I'm perfect guys if you say I'm one. perfect, yes. If you see me, I won't.
Yeah, yeah?
Are you still high on adrenaline?
Like how is it...
How's the mood?
How's the vibe?
The vibes were obviously good because we won but personally for me I felt like a bit slant this game was a
bit rough for me and i felt like my performance wasn't the best i wasn't even in the ball to cry
you know cause like it was about elimination and then my game was not building up a good but i mean it's just
strong team we were helping each other and
we finished with the win is it that also that you're feeling a lot of
relief next to happiness right now?
Not really, probably.
Just happy? Good to hear!
I mean, you might criticize your own play but we thought you played a fantastic game
I understand being hard on yourself is needed in with competition but no need to worry about that yeah i mean
i even talked with my coach and the game was just building up as we collected zero bounties for the first two games.
And then enemy decided to delete water rooms from me, it's kinda sad but yeah...
It's such a life.
I have to ask, did you guys expect the series to be that hard?
I mean i always like to say every series we're expecting to be hard.
And my team for some reason saying like three days in a row
they go on 0-2, 0-1 and then go vacation.
It feels like it's not the best word that I can hear
but understand they are laughing, they are joking
and we have no expectation of the Serials.
It's even funny and better that it
must be some type of revenge for them
and somehow deal with it.
OK.
And I want to ask you personally, as a player,
You guys have been owning the entire year through the upper bracket
But now you're in the lower bracket and that might make the unfamiliar territory for you
How has that been for you? Do you feel like it's made you a better player,
do you feel like you're playing differently at all?
Pretty similar as upper bracket but I would
say there is no even pressure because of
upper brackets. It feels like you have nothing to lose when they're playing
lower bracket and just playing as you can.
And we also already in the lower bracket, then the Birmingham will actually drop it
at the same time as a Berman game so we might have the same round but who knows? We'll see.
And last question I want to ask you is in this tournament a lot of mid players
have seemed to step it up. Is there anyone that
you played against in this tournament that surprised you
played better than you thought
i mean he was saying at the pilot player maybe some nook because like
i was not a big fan of him but to be honest he
was playing good and he wasn't even beating me so
i will give you my respect awesome i have a question after
so second game looked kind of sus from you guys
I usually expect more
so after this game is over
what did like Aoi talk to you guys with?
Like was it more emotions
Is your gameplay wasn't up to state
Is there something with the draft that needed to change
i'm not able to rule everything but i would say the main thing that we'll talk
about like usually our personal game was not the best and
all communication was uh we was a bit uh
i don't know like it was smashing our heads in the fight and we should to be passionate
as always and the third game actually was the best example to play when such a long games coming
you must stay as calm as possible and if you're gonna see in the first game and it's just i mean
used to play against Quest and
it's happened again. They're just smashing the bodies like a red button, you know?
So also in the third game when you didn't talk about the communication
who would you say, like, who keeps you guys in check
in like that 15 minute plus games like because
you want to be excited of course and like make the clutch plays but who also slows it down a little
bit i think there's not really like this calls but i will say we just, I mean it depends on the time. Someone can say about this couple of times and even I can say that we need to play slow you know like we need to slow down because sometimes
emotions going hard and we need to stay focused so it's not any particular player yeah just it's our
fundamentals as our basis you know base it. Got it.
What are you going to do in the break before you face Tundra?
I mean first of all I'm gonna eat
and then I think we're gonna look for a great place
and prepare for the Thunder,
because honestly, we did not prepare still
because it's only been the first series.
Who knows? We could lose but yeah, that's all.
Well, we're gonna let you get some rest
and get ready for the last series of the day.
Good luck up against Tundra! Thank you so much for joining us here on the panel.
First congratulations on the series and winning our PlayStation.
Thank you. The series will be funny. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see. Thank you, thank you. This will be funny, we'll see.
We'll see! Thank you so much, Maureen.
As we look at the lower bracket it was
Falcons that eliminated their fellow
Mina team in PSG
Quest 2-1 and a very hard fought win here as elimination was complete.
And for that, we are also going to hear some final words from TA2000.
Thank you very much, I am joined by
TA2000 of PSGQuest
where
I imagine that this is a pretty crushing
thing to experience,
but at the minimum you pushed Falcons
to the limit man.
This team has been dominating
it's seen for the entire year
and you were able
to bring them that close.
Unfortunately it wasn't enough, but is there any pride in the fact
that you were able to take down OG Spirit
and then get this close?
Yeah maybe we should have
given up the first map for fun
to make it interesting.
I remember Omar
telling me in the previous interview you guys were charity
esports, you always give away game one.
Yeah, that's it but yeah it was really close at some moment i thought we already won because kind of they can fight us
already but they split us really good and we couldn't handle stress. Someone starts doing random stuff,
they pick off us and we slowly losing map. I think it would be less stress
and more patient we should have finished this game.
The stress levels seem to be getting mitigated better and better like the
more experience you guys have because i remember
your path last Riyadh where
everyone was thrilled to even see
you guys hit top 8. And we were like, wow,
PSG Quest, they're coming out of nowhere and they're doing this.
If you could think back to that last year
run versus this year run, how would you compare the two in terms of
your team's experience and the i guess the solidity that they showed
um it's hard to say when i was better last year on this
i think this way was more lucky
let's hear what was crushing of skill we was first place in group, like both groups.
We was crushing tier one teams and we got unlucky on upper bracket
but it was playing good I think.
It was playing better this year year well from an outsider's perspective
it wasn't luck ta 2000 you guys are skilled there's the notion that you guys are underdogs
but it's not gonna be that case for long You guys are moving up and up in the world,
I can't wait to see what the rest of PSG Quest has.
TA3000, it's been amazing to watch your run
Thank you so much
And if you have anything to say to fans?
Thank you guys for watching this tournament.
Incredible, incredible everything.
I love it.
It's ended up for me in these sad notes but everything fine.
Thank you.
We loved watching you man. Thank you very We love watching you, man.
Thank you very much.
And we'll pass it back to the studio.
Ooh, they might not have won here
But they definitely won a lot of hearts all over the world
Sharp contrasts here as we go from a sad TA2000 to a very happy skater who gets to crush a key right here.
It is the reality of things, Kazuch!
Yeah I mean it's just how it goes. I do hope for Quest Please
for the love of God guys stay together
this team is so good
yeah
i don't want any of them to get poached
what they did
like the way they play
what they're doing
you're five guys just together helping each other
They should stay together because honestly
I love watching these guys play
I think a lot of people do
A lot of people do for sure
Hopefully we'll see a lot more PUSc quests in the future but for now they are
exiting here and we move forward with our upper bracket finals liquid versus gaming after the break 🎵 Outro Music so so so so so 🎵 so so Get us out of here! so We'll be right back. so so so so.
. so um so so so so so so You are watching Rehab Masters live from the Esports World Cup and we see the Jameel Motorsport
player arrival as they're getting ready to play at the Upper Brack in the kidia arena it will be a blast from
the past it will be liquid versus gaming gladiators i know it's not 2023
it's gonna be it's gonna be i think it's not 2023. It's gonna be,
I think it's going to be great.
We've seen these two teams last year battle it out
so many times but they have
not yet claimed a
title this year Effie. No and the top of the list. So that's a good thing. I think
it's going to be fun for us
to see you play a title this
year, Effie. No and
I gotta say It's good to
see the El Clasico. I saw the coach of the bracket. I'm not sure if you can see
that, but it's a really
beautiful feeling. Yeah
screenshotted the upper
bracket finals. But when
you see these two teams
go up against each other
at you can expect the
highest level of familiarity with each other. hero picks, they know each other's drafts and they're very friendly with
each other so I expect to see
some incredibly close games today.
Which coach was it? Was it
Jabs, Blitz
or JerAx?
They've had a lot of coaches.
It was Jabs who said it right after you.
I just wanted to throw a shout out for having 17.
It's all good.
Hey Brian, welcome to the panel.
How excited are you for this one? I pumped i mean i was expecting this to be the highlight series of the day but then the
first one is hard to top all right uh i mean these two teams have really been
setting them up for this entire tournament i feel like they've been the ones saying,
This is the tone, this pace.
Can anybody beat it?
So far nobody has.
I feel like both teams had mediocre performances in the group stage
as opposed to how convincing they look
in the playoffs so far.
I love the way they do
the same thing differently.
Gaiman's like a very five-man ball aura
while Liquid's like a run at you
with high tempo carries
like Razor, so we see DeraaTyo winning five games in a row
on CK. We see Liquid having their signature heroes
I'm really curious to see which poison they pick
because there are only so many bans
Well we're going to focus our attention first on
Game and Gladiators. They've had a
good year. I say that fully
well aware that last year they had a better
year after coming second
at the International. they were able to make
Grand Finals once more. But since
then, I mean it's still nice. Third
fourth, you know top six
is still going well. But
it hasn't been as good as it was and maybe maybe that is something purge will talk
to celery about hey guys backstage gonna do a quick interview with gaming gladiators before
their match just gotta grab Stellar here. Can I
interview you quick? Okay, please stand here.
Alright,
you guys had super fast series.
You guys had like 30 minute average games.
Was that the tempo you guys were aiming for?
Not quicker minute average games was that the tempo you guys were aiming for not quick enough yet hopefully we can update even more today do you think you can win in faster than 20 minutes because boxy said
he's going to try to hold out so that he doesn't lose before 20 minutes
and anything, so you can win.
So I think if you go under 20 minutes
it's like easy 2-0
20 minutes?
Maybe one of the games
every game is a bit hard
20 minutes is pretty quick
Okay you played Chen a bunch, I think you've played Chen every game in the last series
How do you decide which facet you take? Because I think there are like 25 different facets for Chen right?
Almost 25 different facets for Chen, right? Something like that.
Almost. I just tried them all and most of them honestly are pretty
bad. And there's only one that feels good
which is the mana burn creep so not everyone
is copying.
I would like if they just take their own facets but it's just the best one the group is very
weak this is the only crib that actually has an active that does something
these other groups they kind of just die.
That's a bummer because then the later one is the satyr blaster which is
not really that amazing right? You just get health regen
and a nuke.
Yeah but in early
it doesn't feel that bad it does give some nice HP region
but it's just a better of its the just the best you can get kind of I tried
the other creeps but this is too it's too badly
that's okay well you still making That's okay, well you're still making
it work which is great so you guys have to play against
Team Liquid here, you've beaten them so many times
in so many tournaments in the
past two years basically do you feel
the same confidence level against them or things change because it's 2024
and you guys are both at slightly different skill levels um i mean it doesn't feel the
same as last year but we feel pretty good now.
Like, before we felt a bit like, oh, who are we playing?
Maybe we feel more confident or less.
But now it feels like it doesn't matter that much how we play.
We're just going to do our thing.
And if we play well, we feel very confident all right
great well good luck in your match and thanks for joining me thank you very much gaming gladios has
looked very good on the main stage here in the arena. And to be honest,
in terms of playing up against Liquid
yes there's been five grand finals
that they've played against each other
all won by Team Liquid
but if you look at their overall results
and their entire existence it's actually very even.
In terms of series, it's 12 wins for Liquid,
13 for Gaiman, one draw
because group stages sometimes drop is very even yeah that's
why i'm excited to see the al classico i know people are getting uh frustrated with this matchup
last year but things are different these are completely completely different teams. Liquid has 33 now, and I'm really glad to see him finally integrated into the team.
He is sometimes being greedy,
but he's going for pipes and mechs
and stuff like this.
He had that Wind Waker play where he saved Mikkei in the fight
and they went from looking like they were getting sent to
the lower bracket
to winning the game.
Because he's a TI,
come on! This guy is one of the best players
in the planet. Yeah it feels like
they finally hit their stride as a team.
Earlier on in the tournament there still did seem to be a disconnect
but that just disappeared very quickly as it went on
and you can see a lot of trust in 3-3 and how they're prioritizing
a lot of his hero picks
and even picking the new heroes
that he's famous for.
He did play Visage,
he didn't win with it
but the fact that Liquid
trusts his calls
really says a lot,
because a lot of the criticism
people had for this iteration of Liquid
was maybe some people want to play too slow
while other people want to play too fast.
Some people want to farm
while others want to run at you.
But it seems like they found that really good middle ground
where everybody's happy. Yeah, I
ran into Tofu and Celery at
lunch today, and I talked to Tofu about
hey man, are you guys looking forward to the match? Like running back last year
And he's like
it's kind of funny
both of our teams have been
on a similar clock
or we synced our watches
Last year they were both
in every final
Then this year neither
of them have had
really bad amazing amazing performances.
And now they're both really hitting their stride as Mira mentioned at the same time
and it's just kind of poetic I feel like because last year these two teams dominated all year
but didn't
really claim their glory
at the end as Team Spirit kind of hogged it all
so now is their chance. Now is their chance
Let's see what Boxy has to say before their match
Hey guys, we're sitting Boxy has to say before their match.
Hey guys, we're sitting here getting ready for the next upcoming match and
there you... Boxy can I
know you quickly? Yes sir.
Come to me.
Yesterday, or two days ago sorry you guys went 2-1 in your upper bracket match
How did that match feel for you?
Who did we play?
It was Arkosh Gaming I think.
That match, a little shaky I guess?
I feel like we should maybe have won all three games...
The second one was the hardest but we could have won it if we played better.
They got a comeback in all three games so hopefully today will wrap it up with no mistakes.
What were your thoughts on Dawnbreaker? Were you just trying to save your cores or was it good for the lane?
I mean, the game was pretty nice.
And I think we had a big lead and then you kind of want to group up
and fight and it makes this all ending by can't BKB Black Hole
because the smoush from there,
the guardian, solar guardian, cancels for BKB.
So that's pretty nice and I used to play the hero
I think it's pretty solid in theory, but I was farming a camp in the corner of the map while my team was firing.
So that's unlucky.
In game 2 and 3 you guys played against the exact same lineup. What were the changes that you made in Draft 3
to accommodate what felt difficult in game 2?
I guess I didn't play Dawnbreaker.
I thought it was the Enigma
Was just hard to lane against your Razor
Well that's what I saw at least
It was like you picked Gyro instead
You could kill the Eidolons
That kind of thing
Yeah, I mean
I think both heroes
Are probably okay into turning them off.
Gyro is probably better.
I didn't lane there so I don't know how it went but...
Not your problem on this side of the map?
Yeah, exactly.
Alright well how do you think you're gonna do in this upcoming match?
Gladiator's played very fast games like all 30 minutes. Exciting. Alright, well how do you think you're going to do in this upcoming match?
Gladiator's played very fast games like all 30 minute games so are you guys gonna be able
to play fast enough?
I feel like if we don't lose by 20 minutes, we'll win.
I think you'll be okay.
20 minutes is really early.
You definitely mess up.
All right, well,
thank you for the interview.
Good luck, new man.
Thank you.
How was that?
I love that.
If we don't lose
by 20 minutes, we'll win. That is maybe
a recipe to success for Team Liquid here
against Gaming Gladiators. Maybe
that's all they need, just survive the first 20
minutes. But if you're looking at these two teams
and the road that they've taken to get
to this upper bracket finals,
We do see in both teams a similar route where
They have been able to power up
And level up throughout this Re-up Masters.
And Brian when you look at Team Liquid
in particular, which player are
you going to keep an eye on in the game that is
gonna be make or break for the series? I think it's
Nisha. This is the best he has been playing in a really long time
He's always one of the best players in the world, but I feel like
this year or at the end of this year
he's really stepped up his pub play. His mechanics
are refined as best as they possibly
can be and he's been carrying them through spots
that I feel like last year wasn't
quite enough to get them to top two, top
one in some of these big tournaments and now
I think it's his time. Yeah, I mean Yusra
has been playing incredibly and a hero that comes
to mind that he's just been crushing everybody with is Tiny.
I mean, before the playoffs,
they were ruining Tiny's stats in this tournament
a little bit because before playoffs,
he was sitting at like a 45% win rate
which really
Was not indicative of this hero's power because Nisha gets it
When he is five games in a row with it and it seems
Like a huge problem for a lot of teams. I wonder if
Gaiman thinks they have solutions for it or
If they are just going to round it out.
Yeah he did toss a lot of teams into the lower bracket with that hero
and then they tossed a lot of teams out of the tournament with that hero
but the problem is for them, Gaiman
in their last series seems to have figured
out the timing. Like they're
playing the
pipe and mech Chen and kind
of just protecting from the burst.
They're playing like TA mid
and dealing with the Tiny,
with that hero winning the lane.
They tried Necro mid
they didn't win that
but they have ideas and they don't seem to mind playing into Tiny.
I think they're going to let it through.
We saw in the group stage actually that Gaiman played against Tiny
and they were the team that,
I felt like studied the mechanics of Toss
because we know
the crash landings when making Tiny so broken.
So they picked Invoker mid, and then Tiny would
toss to Creep, and he'd Tornado
to Creep, so it doesn't do anything.
And then there was a crucial toss back where the chin tornado cancelled
the toss so I feel like Gaiman, they have ideas.
Both these teams are here for a reason.
They truly understand what is making it successful for them.
They are dissecting the meta heroes
and letting them through,
and that's just something
I have to call their bluff in the draft.
Yeah, the draft is going to be incredibly important
in this upcoming Best of Three series. Of course, one of the two will it be?
I don't know, but we are going to find out.
But first get the teams on the stage.
We have a very special guest here today
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and Mina are still holding on to their crown.
That's right, they almost were able to beat Falcons
They pushed them into the limit
They got to the third game
but it was not quite enough
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But now, we
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this one is a spicy one. We had
Mina versus Mina. Now it's time for Western
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versus GameN. These guys have been setting the pace
this entire tournament, literally
because they are playing some blisteringly
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Gaming Gladiators were able
to beat everyone in 2023,
but they were not quite as lucky in 2024.
They had been trying
to secure one tournament throughout the whole year
But now they're one match away from grand final
and they're very close to claim this trophy.
On the other side, Liquid their grand final veterans of a Riyadh Masters so you know
They are itching to make that happen yet again this year.
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It's going to be a close one. I think it's going gonna be a close one i think
is going to be a great one we're going to see some top tier dota 2 and i want
to get into the nitty-gritty of it because we were moments away from
getting this draft started and we already heard celery earlier talk about
his gen and you see him having a big smile on and we already heard Celery earlier talk about his Chen,
and you see him having a big smile on his face
because he's been getting the Chen pretty frequently.
But Jenkins, is he really going to get that Chen again?
Because surely,
surely.
I think this is... Or is there too much to ban?
No,
I think this is the team
you definitely want
to ban the Chen against.
I mean,
especially because
they think that they have the tiny solution which uh part of that comes from the
chin and the fact that he's so good at buying those auras and it frees up ace
that they can either have ace pick up an early pipe then
chan picks up the mech and then they sync that timing
uh or he can go for a non-pipe buyer in the off lane so i would say if team liquid leave it okay
didn't so yeah yeah they've ended out
against this team makes sense the next question i guess is going to be
the tiny that we mentioned earlier in the hands of
nisha achiever i'm gonna i'm gonna be straight
with you oh none of these picks matter. Why?
Team Liquid has six losses in the tournament, every single one of them is on Dyr.
They're 8-0 on Radiant... game's over GG.
Okay well let's go next!
We can do Game 2 now.
There are about 50% win rate on Dyr on Team Liquid and there are 100% We can go game two now. Game Two!
They're about 50% win rate on Dire on Team Liquid and they are 100% 8-0 on Radiant
I asked Blitz, is there a reason for this do you think?
And he basically said that he thinks it's pure coincidence
But maybe he just holds out the information that's what somebody's
holding on yeah exactly too the question is when you think about celery it's not
just trend then you have to consider you have to consider his Enchantress. So when Gunnar was on
panel during the group stages he said that when you play against Gaemon you can severely
gimp their drafting just by dealing with Celery's heroes and they change as a team.
Well, the Beastmaster is the one that gets picked up first
by Team Liquid most likely going...
I say most likely now but normally it's always for 33
But now I have to say most likely now but normally it's always for 33 but now i have to say most likely because we did see teams switch it to mid
so still keeping that you know a little bit on our radar but securing a beastmaster as
your offlaner and i don't think he can be going wrong with that,
especially not considering it is 33 playing in.
And when the Doom is banned as well.
And there's the Enchantress.
That's one of the better counters.
And the interesting thing is GG left Beastmaster in the pool and banned the Doom themselves,
but they probably just wanted to prioritize their Stellar Enchantress.
I mean we've seen a lot of responses from Enchantress like Crystal Maiden,
like Nyx Assassin but ultimately it is not a turn.
It's not going to be building the Auras for your team
you just have to make sure that you can deal with that creep early on
and that you have reliable damage to burst her in the late game
uh what i love about as we go further and further into the tournament
you're seeing these stats at the top like we see these teams picking these heroes they're usually
signatures that there have like 80%
plus, sometimes 100% win rates on them. We have
4-0 for Team Liquid with Beastmaster.
We have only two games of
Enchantress for GG but they're 2-0
with Enchantress so all these teams are whipping out their 100%.
It's like who's going to bend first and not break?
Maybe also because it's game one of a best-of-three
and it's in the upper bracket,
you are comfortable letting your enemy team having relatively comfortable picks,
because it will teach you a lot and if this series,
if this matchup were to happen again in the grand finals
then at least you know that you're ready for it. You can learn a lot from it. If this matchup were to happen again in the Grand Finals,
then at least you know you're ready for it.
You can learn a lot from this.
Team Liquid have only played the Knicks one time and they won
but I feel like it would just be an easy way to deal
with Enchantress online because she's picked
into Beastmaster right? So she's going to take his
board and you would really simplify
the laning stage for yourself if you had a support
that could kill it, but maybe it would
push them too far away from their bread and butter
on Liquid
if they went for the noose.
We did see in the last game
the Boar going mid and deleting runes,
and then Malorine saying how frustrating that was.
I do think that is something you can do against Enchantress.
You can use the boar to stack
because you're going to max
the Wild Axes anyway.
You can run the Beastmaster mid,
so there are options
for Team Liquid.
I don't think this is
as much of a one-to-one counter
as it used to be.
I think you need more to counter the Beastmaster to be. I think you need more
to counter the Beastmaster,
to be honest.
You don't want to let him just get
to that point where he's unkillable
in fights because of the healing
and the damage that he does.
You were talking about the player to look out for Team Liquid, I'm
looking out for Durachio on GG
because in their last seven games there are only two
losses where when he wasn't playing CK
and Team Liquid banned out CK in the first round.
I feel like Dorachio is an important part of their tempo on this side of game,
and he usually represents the catch, the aggression on their team
and Broodmother is more of the aggression side while ck's more of the catch
side and they haven't really shown too many different heroes that he can do this with so now
is the time to like say okay liquid saying we're gonna force you to beat us with something on Durachio that
you haven't been able to do yet. I feel like he's an essential part of their kit because all the
other heroes tend to be aura heavy so we'll see what he can do.
I do think though, that Duraccio's
hero pool for this tournament is generally
quite good against the Beastmaster in the offlane
He plays PA
You can dagger and kill the beastmaster
in the lanes you can burst the Beastmaster with a Hoodwing Stun.
Ursa is pretty good at bursting this hero as well
with an Ench and a Hoodwink Rotation
I think he'll be able to kill Beasts in lane
I do like the idea of some hero on
daemon to contest the stacks, that's always
a thing you look for whenever there's
a beast picked in this patch
What role are you expecting that from?
Sometimes it's coming
from the mid lane like i could see less rack or something i mean usually
there'd be an io pairing in this patch with that but that's just
the first thing off the top my head head. Sand King obviously, but that didn't get through.
Tango right? I mean it is Gaiman and Tango is still in the pool
And that's one of the easier heroes to move from the mid lane into that triangle
He can fight and he can steal
the stacks a little bit as well
So they do go for Nyx,
They've only played it once on Liquid
so it might not seem bad comfort
but I really think having a hero that can just instantly eat the Enchantress
Creep really simplifies your laning and if you can just guarantee that Beastmaster has
a comfortable transition from the lane to the Ancient
and hits his timings early,
you will always have that incredibly strong hero
to play around with. Get the Early Ages with
and just take over them all.
It also makes you not really want to pick like
the PAs of the world that Jacobs was
talking about, these heroes that are meant to kill the Beastmaster because another part
of this Nyx hero is that he likes to distract the creeps and mindflare neutrals on the way.
So they do end up going for
the kill hero Ursa.
I think it's largely to do
with the fact that it also
deny picks the counter
to Underlord and Enchantress.
It's like a very good game
for Liquid to have picked
Ursa as well,
even if Mikkei hasn't
really played it.
But yeah,
so they still have this kill hero in the carry
role. I think it's super important that we keep
an eye out on Team Liquid's top lane. It's going to be a lot
on Boxxie to play these...
Was it Blitz that said like, it's not real Dota?
He did say that. I laughed when I saw the
Nyx Assassin get picked up because he was watching
Ahri play this and he's like, this is not
real Dota. There's going to be a sub-diff
in this game, you know. and then eventually you see it enough that
you're like okay maybe this is good if it happens enough and it works enough you're
like okay well maybe it's not real but yeah i can imagine it being real yeah obviously
there's an element there if he's memeing around because we're
chilling together watching a game and he's like
this is so OG but then
that's how new tech always looks
at the start. It looks goofy and then everybody
realizes how broken it is
I could see like i'm looking at troll mckay
has not played it yeah specifically in the carry to carry match oh they act all tiny
i didn't think about that in the carry to carry match. Oh, they actually have tiny stuff to pull with them.
I didn't even think about that. Man this is for melee heroes though.
It is against Underlord and Ursa.
Yeah, this sounds...
I mean, they are spellcasting melee heroes though
because they're kind of like fake melee heroes.
But I would still be a little concerned about this.
Yeah it can get a little scary especially if you got some kind of AoE damage coming out from that mid lane.
Like BKB Lushrat would go absolutely ham in the middle for melee heroes and so would Pango.
Or just Pango yeah pool uh this is very
interesting but i do like this underlord pickup a lot from gaiman i just think that tiny really
does not like playing into five-man lineups later on in the game
because if he's playing into this five man ball with a pipe,
with a Greaves,
with potentially a glimmer or a solar crest coming out of one of his courts
and he doesn't get that burst off
there are going to be ways
to turn a fight
if you're gaming right.
All of a sudden Ursa just
presses his ult,
turns on you,
bursts you down.
Like the damage is there
for gaming.
Yeah they're almost certainly
getting like TA Razorband maybe
because that's what Liquid has also been running.
You are looking for most likely a ranged carry.
Jankage you mentioned the Troll Warlord it is very good matchup against Ursa carry to carry.
It gives them like the physical damage that they're lacking,
the sustained damage over the're lacking to sustain damage
over the course of a fight i guess you could say
uh i guess like what interests me about the tiny pick is that you know you're
not getting tiny overall last or sorry ninth pick and
you're not getting
TA or Razor your premier carry
so they prioritize Tiny
higher basically which
means that they're not caring too much about the
lane matchup against the Underlord because
all the best ideas that they have are going to be
sniped out in these last two bans.
They more so care about what Tiny offers them in the game,
you synergize it with ET,
that Spirit plus the toss combo
it's pretty insane damage i was about to ask how do we feel about wind ranger
it's really been considering it too so yeah i agree i know
how gaming feels about win rate. The other
ranged heroes that McKay has been
playing don't look that great here
for a number of reasons
like Venge is
just bad, I don't want to see another Venge carry.
Morphling into Underlord feels really bad too.
And Ursa, not a good matchup.
Yeah you get bursted
You reduce all of the damage
Razor still is in the pool
and they've been running it a lot.
But I do feel like Razor gets bursted into game against Ursa
Like if I'm taking just go late-game
I guess there's too many heroes for Ursa to burst
He also wants to jump the supports and the
Beastmaster before he can heal and get Roar off.
I guess Morphling is
still in the pool but I don't think
that you like playing that against an enchantment.
I feel like any other team in the tournament with big troll here is just
Team Liquid has not run it at all and they really have like a both of these teams
have had like a core theme for their carry like a centric archetype of carries
that they're playing and Razor is almost Like i would just say they're going to pick razor because
that's what they picked but will they whip out something new is now
the time no they just go right oh just raise it
expected both teams are winning like uh pierre i remember saying in an interview of Game Broke Don't Fix It
why would we change something that's
working? They did lose their last game of Razor
but it was into Enigma Offlane which
I think is probably one of his worst matchups. You want
a melee single target here that you can drain
and the thing was the complete opposite of that so i think razer set up for success
he could probably go to like hurricane pike or they'd probably need like one
yule scepter might even consider buying it on Razor as a second or third item against the Xursa
It's not crazy for carry Razor to do that
We'll just have to see
Surely this is just like a pango pick right?
It is into Beast, That was my only concern.
There's no weird necrophos that's going to come out
to counter the Tiny mid.
I don't know if it's
necessary. I guess the Tango
Tiny matchup is probably Tiny favor.
I think Tango should do fine.
Probably off 50-50, I'd say.
I also...
I mean it sounds kind of crazy
but I wouldn't mind Lush too
so if Tango were Lush for me but yeah we saw this
tango really early on when it wasn't banned in that second phase and we were
talking about a hero that can rotate to fight nutrients
and i think the most important part of this bingo is that they're going to have to move at some point into Beastmaster's Triangle and contest the stacks.
And this hero is one of the better heroes, AOE clearing and taking control of an area very early on.
So it's also just a Quinn specialty
Both of these drafts look
pretty telegraphed, it's basically what both
of these teams have been playing the entire tournament
with the exception of Nyx
I do think when both teams get items that the items for Team Liquid will naturally counter like Duraccio's Ursa and their ability to output damage.
I'm actually going to be keeping an eye out on Celery, to see what he itemizes. Is he going to be more utility,
or is he going to be like the Hurricane Pike
eventual Moonshard damage output
that I think will make up for Drachos getting kited?
That's the supports of game,
and I think they're going to need
to dish out a lot of damage they have
a lot of control a lot of like aura buying but what do they have to follow it up that's my question
so i shared jenkins opinion that ursa vs razer should be a great matchup for Ursa, and I still think that the five-man
group up from Gaiman Gladiator is actually stronger than Liquid's if
Underlord isn't completely shut down in lane. So I feel that's really important to be able
to see if Underlord isn't
completely shut down in lane,
so I feel like gaming has
this really nice temple
throughout the entire game
where they have good lanes
there. My game is strong and
their late game is strong
whereas it feels like there's a little bit more pressure on Liquid to take advantage of their tiny Blink and
do as much chaos as they can
in that first 30 minutes
of the game. Yeah, I agree with
that. To me this does look like a
quintessential pun intended uh liquid draft just because
there are a lot of one-to-one counters up against them but i know that a big thing
that blitz harps on and on about is that you just need a window to win the game.
And if it's five minutes,
if it's 10 minutes,
if it's 15 minutes,
he doesn't care.
He's confident in his players can play their comfort heroes
and hit that window
and they are on comfort.
So while I think Gaiman has a better draft
1-1, I also trust Liquid
to hit their timing.
It's what Boxy said in the interview right?
If we survive past 20 minutes
then we're gonna win! maybe that just plays itself out throughout the entirety
of this game but what i am hearing is that a lot of things could potentially happen and
could potentially counter each other but we don't know for certain.
We will have to see how it is played out inside the game.
And I appreciated all of your thoughts,
but I can't wait to hear some thoughts from Coach CY.
It looks to me like both teams got all the heroes that they wanted.
Are you comfortable with the draft?
Very comfortable, and yes indeed there are also
heroes we expected them to pick so it's just about who plays
the best Dota I think.
One thing that I saw in your draft that made me a little suspicious
is I feel like you're damage is a lot of on your Ursa
do you feel that way? Are you worried about him getting bursted at the start of the fight?
About my Ursa what did you ask about Ursa?
If Ursa dies do you have enough damage
on the rest of the squad.
I feel like it's very important to protect him
kind of a thing.
I mean sure but Ursa shouldn't really just die
I feel like so it shouldn't be a problem in my opinion.
Just buy Aghs and press ulti?
Yes.
Okay, what about the TL lineup
The Elder Titan Aura stuff seems quite effective
at amplifying damage for your squad.
Is that hero easy to deal with?
I think it's fine,
I expected him to pick ET for Insane Air
so I think ET is a strong hero,
he's really strong laner
and I think that's the biggest strength,
and then like some late game memes
where he gets insanely strong
but if we play well
I don't really think it should matter
that much.
Alright great good luck in your game.
Thank you so much.
Well the analysts feel like it is an even matchup.
The coach himself of Game and Gladiators thinks this
matchup is pretty even now we're just going to see
whether or not it plays that way
the opening game of this upper
bracket final since TI
last year where
Game of Gladiators eliminated Liquid
This Liquid with 33 is
eliminated. Liquid This
liquid with 33 is nine and
six against gaming gladiators
to regular season has fared
pretty well for them, Avery begins gaming Gladiator's even gladiators even if it hasn't gone as well as last year but does it matter
if you lose here
that's true does not
so get those useless stats out of
here austin because we are
once more facing down the European...
I don't know, what do you call this matchup? The Euro Derby?
The EU Classico?
Don't like that one.
Okay, well we'll call it Slate better. We'll work through it as the
series progresses. We'll find a good name for it.
Could also be the series no one wanted to see but you're
forced to watch again. You can also call
that here. Get that out of the way, as these two teams have a long history at this point and
I will say it feels like in all those important matches that happened over
last few years its game and then come out on top especially a lot
of those grand finals right
yeah and this is a really important match for liquid to regain confidence with this new squad
as gaiman try and get a first blood here with a nice flank yep sandwich 33 there's
nowhere he can run too so he just outputs as much damage
as he can and Insania comes in with big Spirit Damage
will be able get one counter kill
and does some heavy damage to both Tofu and Quinn
Gives up such a good facet in the early game
Yeah, seriously. Especially these multi-hero
skirmishes. But first blood
2Gaiman and it does go
to Hiroshi. quinn did not get
it a little sad about that but it's ursa gets some extra gold to play
the lane with which is pretty nice because i think for
me the biggest year i'm looking at are you maybe in a series
honestly the the support duo is here both these teams want to play fast they want to win Lane
they want to snowball they want to get the ores up really quickly I think everybody who's been
watching this tournament kind of understands what both these things are trying to. I think everybody who's been watching this tournament kind of understands what both
these teams are trying to do, I think they're the two fastest
teams in the tournament by far
and a lot of those slower teams have been eliminated as
we go farther and farther down this bracket
but what do you do when the two fastest teams
play each other? Well, for me
you're looking for really small advantages
in trying to eat those out. I think the drafts are
pretty much even. You're not going to get a big draft advantage
in this series. It really comes down to early game execution
and what you can build off that, which
is why I'm looking towards these two support duos
and how much they can create in the laning
phase especially. Particularly
Celery on this Enchantress. I think Chen and Ench are
typical supports in the series
matchup overall,
Yeah
And if you get your hands
on one
You need to make sure
you get a big impact
from that hero
so that you can maintain
that threat.
Because you might play
each other again
in grand finals, right?
And you need to start
establishing these threats
as real and not fake
as soon as you can.
So this Enchantress I think in the game one
really looking to see how much salary can get done
on this lane and with the Rope of Death.
I was particularly surprised that
Liquid took the Nyx Assassin because
of that fax, because we're talking about two very fast teams.
We saw how sometimes the Nyx Assassin just ends up
in against these small lineups and can't really do anything
but this matchup specifically,
Nyx against Enchantressress. This Mana Burn is
supposed to be a lane counter to the hero?
Just being able to instantly kill the creep?
I think the creep is part of it but I still think
Enchantress can just outlane you. Just a strong
laner. You're not good at dealing with
enchantress roaming to the ruins or through the gate these
types of things nix is kind of static in that early game and his damage is pretty
low even on the turnaround plays your best bet is to pull waves,
get the beast strong,
maybe stack engines.
Just create a big enough of a threat
that this beast
is going to get insanely farmed
if you don't stay here
with the Enchantress.
I think that's like
the best box he can cope for. If you do get to kill some creeps and slow celery down a bit
you're gonna be happy with that for sure and you got a little bit done early
you can also just start nuking the jungle and remove that in the later
pool yeah that is true.
But this first blood
is going to go a long way here
because you already have
Boots plus Orb of Venom
on the Ursa.
Yeah,
that's just a fan man.
It really is.
And they're going to deal with this double melee all plane i mean boots
orb of venom versus double nail offline is every carrier player's dream right here 33 does not get
the lotus he tried now he's gonna have to TP away as Garaccio
continues to use that Boots advantage
whether it's chasing down the Nyx Assassin when
he's trying to pull or in this case threatening
the Beastmaster.
Went all the way to base.
Expensive TP for 33 here as his lane phase is looking real rough yeah if you're doing all this like pulling shenanigans on the nixon assassin
also means you're not doing as much stacking uh which is a problem for the
beastmaster beast master can of course stack for himself but he hasn't managed to do that yet
this is gonna be a struggle This wave is also massively pushing in
to game it right now,
so they're just
going to auto-attack
some of these creeps
and get a couple denies.
Wave's going to be
right in front
of Dorachio's tower here
as 33 comes back.
He has missed
a lot of early CS this this all-playing not going
well for Liquid in this beast. You see them miss the flag
barrier too? They impaled and axed
for it and both missed the last hit.
They're gonna need some stacks to this beast. He is gonna
be at full recovery mode. It it's going to be a big
point of weakness here in the early game.
I was thinking about those enchantress roaming, but at this point
you might bring heroes to this lane
just because they're so far behind
and keep abusing them. Particularly since if you want to talk about Enchantress Chen being such an important key heroes in this series and matchup
I think the Beastmaster is something both meta-wise and particularly with Liquid,
something that you want to break if you're game gladiators.
You want to be able to show you can give up this hero
and have an answer to it.
And right now the laning phase,
they've certainly dealt a pretty big blow to
the beast master
i want to look with go-to's one of the heroes that gives them the early roshan
so if you can break it you break a lot just can't walk up for CS.
This feels miserable
for Voxy right now, and this is why
this Nyx-Ench matchup... I don't care if
you kill the creeps. I think it's still really sad
because you can't contest it
and it just doesn't matter.
And they are not asserting
the same kind of dominance
in this bottom lane.
Razor is doing fine,
25-5
but so is the Underlord.
He's gotten a fair amount of CS out
of this lane to keep on trying
to go for kills
and it looks like maybe they can
finally get one...
Nope! Not good enough
and it's going to be
TheElderTitan who dies instead.
Disaster
for Insania down here.
He was really putting in work over the course
of his lane, but that Lotus Fairy Fire
bites the
bullet here as the lanes
continue to be a sore point for Liquid in this early game at least.
Quinn also winning mid out slightly here with the Pangolier.
Oh, now making trouble as Celery goes through the gates and does indeed start doing a bit of roaming.
It's a really nice connection here, super fast very efficient
keeps going to be missed by this Razor as well
and both side lanes just starting to collapse for Liquid
And Dorachio is under no threat up here This lane went way too poorly for Liquid. And Duraccio's under no threat up here.
This lane went way too poorly for Liquid to exert pressure
as Ursa continues to free farm.
Well, if Liquid... Their goal was
to get out of the lanes unscathed.
They did not achieve that no and this is a
this is going to be a big turning point for the series
these are two teams that snowball really well off lane advantage
they're both looking to accomplish that so you got to look towards these small
differences to make a big difference down the road that. So you got to look towards these small differences
to make a big difference down the road.
Opportunity is now open for Celery to continue and build
some momentum for his team here. He's looking back toward bottom,
he'll get scouted on a ward but can insignia get out in time
gonna be able to push swag him and slow him down not much insania you could do here he is caught
that's just king of the early game right now. Yep.
Everywhere Celery goes, Liquid do not have
a good response.
Oxy's just lingering
around mid right now.
Nothing to do there for him and the pango is making the move
bottom. We'll also get scouted by this ward on the
haste rune, but again
can you get out in time? Yeah, where do you go
if you're mid-cade because you can't even go through the gate
and gank the Ursa.
You're not going to feel good about that move.
Sit in timeout, I guess?
Yeah.
Think about your TP cooldown.
Hide in the jungle
and hope nobody spots you.
And this
war did do some work, but
it's... This is not a much better fate than just
dying here. Yeah.
And he's still gonna die. Okay,
so... Maybe Mixed Assassin can still gonna die okay so maybe mixed assassin can come in and disrupt some of this one tries to go
for the double stun only hits one of them ends up tanking some of the acorn shop that'll help
slows him down with a blood grenade. Anything they can possibly...
The problem is the golem's gonna die
Oh wait, the golem punched him first
But then the baby golems come out and
turn their damage onto the mixed assassins
They could pick up a double here potentially deursa nice stun before he dies but
insania as strong as he is cannot finish off any of these heroes maybe nisha can though and rage
goes off stomp doesn't last for long though dorachio shrugs off that disabled
runs down the support three dead in
exchange
of four enchantress gaming gladiators
gotta be very happy with the way this is
going the lanes went well, and now
the rotations are going better.
Super happy with how that works out.
This Ursa is powered up. He gets to
join an early fight, help take this tower, kill
the enemy carry. Liquid scrambling to make a defense around
this tier one just not synchronized at all and then you keep being a tiny and nisha doesn't
even get a big core kill out of it he just gets the enchantress who's probably happy
to go back to base anyway.
Gonna really
have to look to this timing to make some action
happen, get you back in this early
game. Just having the best game of everybody
on Liquid and we have seen this hero be a bane for every other team that has had to go against Liquid so far.
They're going to smoke up to the Beastmaster who pulled away with the boar.
So they probably are expecting,
okay, the Beastmaster's entirely alone
and getting a pick off on the Enchantress
Nothing major for Liquid
but something small
to work with I suppose And one thing about all this aggression in bottom lane
does mean the Beastmaster has been able to recover some.
Recovery time for 33.
Nikkei isn't getting ganked by the Enchantress.
That's the other upside here.
Did slow down Celery, who was getting a lot out of this early game.
And...
Oh! The boar runs into
the smoke. Bisha breaks the smoke from
the high ground as well.
He did not realize
where he was, I believe.
There's no real threat on Nisha here anyway.
Got 1,500
HP. Yeah, that's true you just...
You don't have the damage.
Gaming maybe looking to pressure this top tower?
They know the Beastmaster is recovering off of stacks. So anything they can
to get information
inside of the triangle.
Yeah,
it was really like
the collapse
on some of these tier ones
that open up
the ancient area
for recovery
for Liquid.
If you take it away
it's brutal.
Which is why
Dorachio is pushing in that top lane as well, right?
He pushes into the top lane that he
can kind of cut over and help with
some of this presence here. They're putting a lot
of pressure on right now.
This is the strength of Enchantress, the early jungle invasion.
Liquid needs to
respond accordingly.
Nice D-Ward from Seller. Good read
that Liquid is going to try and defend this
as much as possible.
Gotta remember there can be a gate from the underworld into this type of fight as well even have numbers they can bring but unable to
punch through you're just gonna get some xpached into the enchantress here, but that's
about it. Might even pay the price.
Yeah, maybe...
Oh! They're gonna run out of damage!
Oh! Gets him right before he
can get the club in to maybe finish them off.
And now Nisha another round of axes still not enough to kill Celery
In fact 33 getting close means Duraccio is immediately going to pounce on that opportunity
and take him down underneath the tier two perhaps,
looking through the trees.
But D'Araccio is faster
He'll catch it eventually
They need to get Foxy at that tail end of it
And they will with the pango chase now
I mean, that was just a very well-played bait here from Gaiman
knowing they have that gate underword to come through.
Felt like Liquid almost forgot about it
thinking they have numbers advantage
but the second you commit in there with Tiny
the gate is fast enough to get your Underlord
In there and lock him down.
You don't have an ET ult
To back you up in this fight
You don't have a Medetta
Just not a lot of spell power To work with and that Enchantress facet is...
Man, that is A facet for sure.
Yeah when you are ahead this facet is incredibly obnoxious.
Those Curves & Axes, not enough to finish them off 33 just had very little resources
to play this fight anyway you know what's funny is i was going to praise liquid for
how they took that ancient Stack in the first place.
It felt like it was very controlled, you know?
They weren't overcommitting,
they were just chipping away with axes and tiny combos
and yeah, they lose some of the experience
but then they get into their head that they want to kill this Enchantress.
As you said, just got baited by gaming gladiators.
Now GG up 4,000 net worth lead 10-3.
And another rotation that's gonna catch McKay
Nothing he can do about this one
Rolling thunder from Smoke
He knows it too
One more plasma field to see if he can get a last hit on a creep,
Can't even do that much
Just an easy smoke rotation, this Razor has nowhere else to go
Oh don't let those skeletons get to that amp damage room yeah they
get it inside the bottle for nisha they need anything they can to equalize
some of the odds here i need to get this tiny blink so they can start creating
some threat on
the map of their own right now you're just getting pressured
you're getting pushed in top lane's in with the ursa right now he's threatening
that tower demon are also pushing it mid and that
tower is just gone, actually.
Durantio is free to roam where he wants. Big question is how aggressive can game and maintain their position on the map?
How much can they sit in liquids jungle before they maybe fear this tiny blink smoke or the
Nyx Vendetta coming up. Right now you still have a pretty big
level advantage here, but there's the vendetta that Blink
is coming in soon. So as much as you're ahead right
now, you don't want to give up 23 pickoffs here.
Soon-ish, Celery taking these camps away from the Tiny
is pretty debilitating because you also have
the triangle that's being taken away by the Beastmaster.
So the Tiny clears out the midwayway but then where does he go?
He's like alright I'm gonna farm something
but there is no camps available
Not the type of stack clearing
with toss we've seen in some of these tiny games where your highest
net worth is just cruising.
It's been a slow one. Smoke without
the blink dagger. That does not feel great.
Try and use the Vendetta
to score a kill somewhere. You, you still have the Zant damage
room so you are happy if you run into
somebody here. Should be a guaranteed
kill and they'll scan out that triangle
at the scan. They're going to do a longer
wraparound really try and make sure they land this one.
The Vendetta allows them to cut through
the high ground here,
and should be able to have it.
They're going to use Zero Splitter just in case.
Wanted to make sure that they can 100-0 him with no response from Game of Gladiators.
Maybe even take some of his ancients?
Xenia tried to go for the wisdom rune, good read by Doraju...
...to be there in time
can you do a little bit of the ancients you can defend this tier one mid you're gonna be super happy inside a liquid about this sequence
i don't think nisha wants to go back here without the blanket queen just right clicks it down you can actually make the most of losing
their underwear on the map finish off the last tier one here gonna completely open up liquid side of
the map really open up these ancient areas i
mean bees did get his recovery out you're almost to the ags
almost so big items trying to be aligned here
inside of Team Liquid.
Yeah, GameGladiators have done such a good job
of just forcing these item timings
as Flink daggered the Sagatum Scepter just one or two minutes later. Nice pick though. like forcing these item timings, blink dagger to tag at him
after just one or two minutes later.
Nice pick though.
They're playing around the board
managed get a blink reveal toss back?
I mean that's what's gonna happen right?
You're going to try and play aggressive
on liquid side of the map eventually bad that eye is going to come out.
It's going to get somebody... you give up a support
for it. Liquid still happy
with this. We'll relieve a lot of the pressure they get to
deward that area.
Gaming lose some control. Have to back up a bit.
Big question is how much this Ursa
is going to scale from this point onward.
You did get your pipe first.
Well, you got your pipe before those beast aggs
could just solo Roche or something something so you're gonna be able to
take this rosh away from the beast with strength of the earth right now there's a big win for game
and this easily could have gone the other way in this game liquid had been the ones winning
the early yeah it feels like such a masterclass
one-two-three step of countering Liquid
beating them on the lanes
and then they invade the jungle constantly
and take away all this extra farm to
prevent the Blink Dagger and Agate accept their timings now they take it away that
first roshan away from the beast master i mean strategically speaking this this just seems like
everything that they wrote down on paper of like what we need to do against liquid it's all working
so far so far
it's a matter of Liquid finding some moves now with the the Knicks in
the time like these are payoff heroes in the mid game
can set up a lot of easy kills need to try and catch 33 they don't really need it
it's just back up here that says aggs man Foxy is lingering underneath the sentry ward too!
Didn't even get a fight out of that Beastmaster item.
Gorachio just playing hyper aggressive right now.
Does not care about anything.
They actually go for him here and take away the Aegis!
Now Foxy goes for a TP out of the Elite,
The Rolling Thunder is going to stop one, so they do trade the
support for the Aegis.
That's probably actually worth it to be honest.
Yeah, limits some of Durachio's aggressiveness
so that he no longer has an extra life.
Just makes you feel better on the map right now, instead of
running away from this agent for five minutes. He's got an Invis
Ruiner to play. He runs into
the Ursa, does a combo
Pox Invis
and Detection? And Topu in face. And detection?
Yeah, Toph was trying to catch up
but at this rate they have no idea where he's gone
to.
Now let's see him.
Demon are still controlling more of the map though this is the problem for liquid if
the pickoffs don't lead to you being able to farm or camps or get the lanes out you're not
really accomplishing much it is delaying the game though. A little bit, for sure.
Yeah I need more time for your Beastmaster
to recover here. Look for that big fight
later on with like the E-T Earthsplitter
Roar bringing down a core target for probably
the Underlord. Get rid of the Auras. Open up
the fight. You can get
some Kiting ability on this Ursa. Be really nice.
You know, Eul's Enforced Stabs
for Liquid would be really good as this game goes later it
will be dagging build up for boxy
i don't actually don't know about the dag in this game i don't know if the
early game was good enough to justify here
yeah like match-up wise
it's very good
against
Enchantress
but
it lets you solo kill
are you actually
going to be able
to find them
and solo kill because Game gladiators the way they
are set up right now with 8 000 net worth lead it feels like they don't really have to split up
they can stay pretty grouped just take objectives away from you.
And they have the Ungelord, which is really good at dealing with split push without putting your supports in.
Higher risk higher reward item.
Nisha! A big
kill! Gaming Gladiators hunt him down. Couldn't get the point
Nice high ground ward to be able to spot that one,
The gate's being able to back it up now
Rolling Thunder catching Nero's 33
Pops a Primal Roar
First winner is also there
They're gonna do a healthy amount of damage and Quinn actually dies!
Now they are going to get caught for this game and Gladiator is a stronger than Liquid
so when it comes to these fights
They are naturally just going to lose more but
one for two in the end
This Ursa is eating
the map alive.
Liquid do not have
good answers
for Taraccio
the second he's on
some of these big targets.
4-1 at 370 CS.
This Ursa
is well ahead of Mikge, his counterpart here.
And that is not good news for Mitge because this matchup
is already not great for him.
And caught up on the pin.
He is not fast.
And Celery is down the other side,
Insane here trying to hit a stomp now
if anything he's gonna get caught as well
Now they're going clean out
Garacho just getting kissed.
Under the tree right now is one after another, Liquid are feeding him to him.
Liquid just scrambling
around on the map trying to push out any
lanes but Game of Gladiators
they are just
sprinting across the
map non-stop.
Fast paced
Dota. Another round of spells that
are not going to go off once again again, gonna get caught by the tiny plus
Nyx Assassin. He still managed to get it off that shield crash hit three and now its real bad for Liquid
as the Rolling Thunder's a threat.
Quinn's going to play
distance here,
but eventually come back in
knockout 33
and now Dronchu
just keeps on running
at heroes.
Gets one kill
support lingers
finds another
one it's been a
deja vu
I mean
Dorachio is just
taking this
entirely he
is everywhere
right now every
single move
liquid make
they have to
deal with the Ursa coming in
and they're not starting on the Ursa which if you
don't there's no real way you're fighting it back
Just lacking the burst
damage here on this play I think
didn't get the Vedetta hit in
for the extra this play i don't think they didn't get the vendetta hit in
for the extra like bonus magic damage yeah i felt like they should have had enough damage there didn't connect all of it
i guess if you had that dagging.
Yeah, if you have a dagger,
if you got that flack tree again
the early game and the timings
there just being slowed down by
a couple minutes has snowballed to so much more.
It went from a 2k net worth lead
to 5k net worth lead
to 12k net worth lead
it's how this fast paced matchup is going to go
Avalanche Toss does a healthy amount of damage
to the next assassin who's almost dead, and
V-Shot is trying to go through the gate.
It was his only way out I suppose.
Boxy didn't die but they
can get his body clocked up a little bit.
And he's gonna need a big impale from Boxy to survive through this situation
and it's just not going to happen.
Boxy still lingering trying to go for Jirachi
which the 33 Dunk Man should get that kill
He pops out and gets
the Enchantress. They get
a 33 hit boxy. The two of them just
go in, find their man,
take him down. In the end it's
a 2 for 40. Definitely worth the Ursa kill but still
pretty much disaster of a team fight
for Liquid. They just have no
answer for the gate coming in behind
these fights giving the aura
presence to this Ursa and the BKB already being done for Dorachio
is huge there because he didn't have ult.
He used it to kill that Tormentor,
take it away from Liquid and
still able to save him
from some of the burst damage coming out here you already have crimson
done on this underworld he's gonna have mech as well you already have triple aura online team
fight is so difficult unless you can start on heroes with the Tiny and displace them or get that Burst.
Was a big streak on that Ursa, it did go to Beastmaster33 happy about that for sure.
Yeah we saw the gold exchange at the end despite his go to the Beastmaster. 33 happy about that for sure.
Yeah, we saw the gold exchange at the end despite it being 2 for 4
and it was actually kind of close
because Game of Gladiators
is so far up in net worth
the kills were worth almost
twice as much.
I just don't see this Razor
having an impact in this game.
I-I don't even know what you're really trying to get to here for BKB,
I mean you're gonna get BKB but it doesn't help you that much.
You're still going to get demolished by the air assault all day long right?
There's no good link targets, like
that's part of the
problem.
Linking versus
kind of irrelevant
linking the
Underlord is you
know good in the
early game if
you're snowballing
off killing him
or something but
it doesn't really
matter in the fight
other than giving you some damage
you can't link the pango gotcha he definitely felt like a focus on lanes and that they didn't win
the lane yeah now this pick is really suffering i mean ursa's just going to eat him alive
with the basher before the vkb it's even up foxy also has a little bit of a problem here
as well breaks the smoke he goes for the kill on the hood wing
will he have the burst damage he will not i'll die for it he was willing to take the trade off
that's the problem with the dagging build up when you're behind
seals are just too tanky, they get above your threshold and then every time this happens it feels worse.
I mean Tofu's even holding on to like a raindrop...
Just uh kill that a little bit let's watch these bear
rotations from dorachio he has been all over the map man got this tiny kill beast master look at him
go beast master look at him go literally yeah that is the map over twice in a row
and it's probably not a ideal farming rotation i'll tell you
that one an ideal farming enemy hero rotation yes
we need he farmed a lot of heroes i'm sure there are a lot of carries who
would look at that pattern though and go, what is this man?
Hector would be furious about that.
He IS furious right now.
That's not a lot well carry sports can move
another is so i'm looking for three it's a lamb that might just be able to bail this out with the problem
roy's action will get kind of good goes off gets quinn down to half but tofu and the rest
of gaming gladiators we'll make sure that it doesn't all turn bad for Game
Gladiators. They trade one-for-one, which is
great for Liquid, but again they
are too far behind to...
Even when the opportunities present themselves, they can't get
that much out of them.
Still another huge Ursa
kill. It is worth a lot of gold
here.
Well, worth the exchange. Very unlucky
with the blink in right as
the Pango blinks out, but you end up landing
the stomp. So 100 to 0 that Ursa, no BKBA
and no enrage.
Could be a game if you think about that Ursa-Aggs
But he's just gonna go with the Ocarina build.
Oh, he can get the Aghs off the Roach later anyway.
It is more time for Liquid.
Game will stall out every single
time these Eartha Deaths happen.
Though not stalled that much out,
they still take the Tier 2 bottom lane.
But you can see Lichards on the other side of the map farming up, getting their items.
Just a question of is there
a point where
they'll be able to turn the game
around with this kind of deficit
that they're experiencing.
The Nyx Assassin and Tiny
from this far behind, will they
still be able to burst heroes nick's assassin is clearly shown struggling
to be able to do so the tiny who's building towards that uh phylactery buildup?
Maybe.
If you get Conda, I can see the tiny burst he supports for sure.
Couple more spells.
Well, he's got Vendetta so we should be able to skedaddle.
You can play for the high ground defense here. got Vendetta, so we should be able to skedaddle.
I mean, you can play for the high ground defense here.
Playing for that in this state of Dota
feels so bad when you're giving up all these
Roshans. It's way too much network.
These two supports where Gaiman can also just too much network
these two supports for gaming can also just scale into cores if they really want to she got a hurricane pike on this
enchantress start building blake here on the hoodwink here be really annoying in
the fight when the vkBs go down for Liquid.
I think you can make something happen during this Razor-BKB duration.
It doesn't die too fast.
There's no BKB piercing lockdown on the side of gaming gliders so in theory mickey has nine
seconds to do whatever he wants through the gate they go geronimo hunting and if that had been an
eggs on the end of lord they would have caught 33 in a game
landed right on top of him.
Still though, the wrong Thunder is going to catch up
to him, a great pick off because he was just
about complete at BKB.
So you'll find that item late, late, late.
I love how Ace is always just planning these gates right where people are walking to
Trying to get them to like misclick the gate and stand there
It's really annoying.
Just open up
the high ground.
We have all those
auras completed.
He is thinking
about that axe as well.
Wouldn't be interesting
this game.
Nisha does not want to come back. Did finish the Conda.
He did.
There's no wave for Gaiman.
Yeah he's gonna go cut another wave here.
Liquid making the most of his group up.
One shots it, and he doesn't blink TP
He sticks around for another wave which might just get him caught by queen who
is going to be lurking here the chances of that. That was insane.
Yeah,
that is...
Quinn clings into the tiny toss
and it's the frame
that he tries in. Dude, I wish we could have
seen Quinn's player cam for that.
Because Nisha has zero reaction but you
know Quinn had a reaction.
And the funny part is if he doesn't hit
him then Quinn could have used roll up in rolling thunder and probably
had a decent chance of catching misha out on the map and once the tiny's dead
i feel like even gladiators are a lot more prepared to glide
having a little mystical intervention there saves him from a worse fate.
He's going to run into Tofu here,
the corners are important,
he's got his spot, turns around,
now the TV comes in,
not getting this pick off he was hoping for.
They're gonna get the kill down bottom they were looking for eventually here, Aegis still up
for 230 time for Thrax to poke
his high ground again pretty much only have
think about the toss back here.
Toss the board, actually hits the Enchantress instead of Creepway.
Very hard to go in for this tossback when the pit's laid down.
You don't want B to be on this tiny.
No force stats can really bail him out
from being all in middle.
And also,
kind of want to just keep tossing
just uh harass they kicked him back so you gotta take this fight right now you're getting nothing
off the map all right nikkei he's to try and draw a little tension see if they can
get an opening here nisha bling it's like back backwards there probably a mistake
pretty tempting to just toss his Underlord back.
Oh, do you though?
His Underlord also has an Ogre Seal Totem so he is going to reposition himself
He's not gonna die easy,
and he's gonna be able to get back to his team.
Liquid just not finding any openings
right now against Gamer Gladiators.
Stomp attempted. Whipped.
If you're going to toss somebody, it's got to be now.
You get the full aim! Nisha does not give a toss back opportunity
they didn't get what they came for
gaming gladiators about to say, nobody
go up the death alley here. Let's go all
the way back through the jungle.
See?
Liquid smoke out.
Try and use some of the
mixed scouting
you got a deep ward
on this cliff
boxy planet
that I don't think
gaming are going
to be aware
of in the short term
though in the long
term gem
will make
short work
of it
I mean you gotta find something soon here the long-term gem will make short work of it.
I mean, you're going to find something soon here.
You are massively getting outfarmed during these periods.
Yeah, at the end, it's coming.
40 seconds left on the Aegis. A smoke and a fast move from Game of Gladiators.
They're gonna go straight to it with this off-terrain, straight to Mikke.
Mikke hits some trouble gets bashed up 33 might need to bail out. They go for the toss backwards here a little bit
and now trying to drag them in with the shards
still no roar being used they want
to try and kill this Aegis without
expecting that quite. Thank you
looking for another toss back if you can get the person deep again oh nisha he gets
attacked by some damage from celery is it going to be able to get it
instead of tossed a creep out to tarantino
they will hold
heads up plate
from Celery there
to prevent that
tiny blink going off.
Yeah,
could have easily
comboed up Taraccio
Still a boxy honey on the easily comboed up Tharachio. Still have
Boxy Honey on the backside,
but honestly
he is no threat and it's hard for Liquid
to make moves to this guy.
Gets him close. Toku's gonna spot him his tormentors going on right now it's a second
format tormentor steal the game yeah really adds up and we saw the ags finish the underwear as well
so if you ever catch these heroes on
the map they're just absolutely gone. Particularly the ones without BKB.
Garroshio is not done! Does not need Nages to push.
Got the toss, didn't get him backwards straight up here.
Nisha just dies for that little attempt.
Liquid did not seem ready
for that whatsoever. Now 33 is going to be
forced to use BKB Primal Roar
and Taraji has shrugged off that damage pretty easily
Nikkei drains some, but there is just no damage going back to the gaming gladiators.
They have to use a buyback here for the Tiny
Just to see if they can keep this going a little bit
Try to go for the toss! Hit the 4 instead!
And now a rolling thunder is gonna
cream Nisha and he
gets abolished by the Ursa. The damage
is too immense, man.
It just overwhelms that big
Rockman as tanky as he is, the Ursa overwhelms that big rock man.
As tanky as he is, the Ursa is so far ahead of Liquid
and they are tapping out in this game one.
Ace had such a free game
He gets Pyke, he gets Greaves,
he has Crimson
the second triple aura's online
you're never winning another 5 on 5
couldn't contest the Roshans
You got a little bit out-laned
The Enchantress ran the map early
And the biggest story of this game to me i was talking about the
supports like liquid need boxy to be the one controlling the moves controlling the pace
delivering some pickoffs or some team fight wins he had no no impact this game. This Knicks was not
able to find anything and that's a huge
blow for this team that relies on him to be
one of their biggest shot callers and playmakers
going into Game 2, that has
to be something they remedy here and you also have
to think about some of these core traits right like this beast versus the underlord
how much are you happy with that if the beast has a worse lane this tiny verse gaming we're
happy to give it away and just put something there that free farms
if you're not having supports
that can play through the tiny and snowball with them
and get power wounds, and his camps
are getting stolen away because your support
is lost early game as well.
Then this time he feels a lot slower.
I think Gaiman did a lot to address some of the core picks for Liquid in.
It shifts a lot of the onus onto Blitz here
and 33 to figure out what they want
to do for this next game. i think that uh i'm glad you
pointed off the nixon assassin because it was also a huge detriment to the beast master in life right
he lost that lane so hard the beastmaster then has been extremely reliable for Team Liquid
just got absolutely thrashed in the laning phase
and was never a source of strength.
It was never something that Liquid could actually rally around,
wasn't able to... he wasn't strong enough in time either It was never something that Liquid could actually rally around.
He wasn't strong enough in timing-wise to be able to hit the Roshan,
they weren't able to play teamfights around it,
and that's been their go-to!
It's been one of the most reliable strategies of this tournament and it gets completely thwarted by gaming gladiators
well i know that boxy said if they went
for the first 20 minutes,
normally it would win.
They did live through
the first 20 minutes for barely Jenkins.
Yeah I don't think
he was applying that if the game
was a 29K gold deficit at 20 minutes.
That was a complete disaster for Liquid.
I think probably back to the drawing board for them.
There was, you know, four melee heroes into Underlord that looked pretty bad.
Celery looks kind of unkillable on the Enchantress.
I'm actually really impressed with him on the Ench,
which I suppose is a very common thing
to say when you see
a Celery enchantress.
But I honestly think
the way he played it,
Ench counters Nyx.
Not the other way around.
He just went through the portal and ganked the safe lane
because Ench is one of the best gankers in the game
for going through the portal.
And his Ursa was free farming anyway,
because there's a Nyx cutting to creep wave.
I'm just wondering they already have to buy
Team Liquid already has to ban out
his Chen in the first phase right?
Did he just prove that maybe
you should also ban out his Enchantress?
Because it feels at some point
why ban one of the two
if they're doing exactly the same
in such a strong way.
I think so.
I think you try the
Knicks,
it's considered
the creep hero
counter,
it doesn't work out.
I think there's been
multiple patches
of Dota 2
for gaming Gladiators
where Chen and Ench
get banned
at the first phase.
It's not an unfamiliar thing against them.
I don't think you want to have an ego or too much pride
and not ban that out, you know?
I'd much rather leave the Tiny in. They even left the pango until
the last phase pick, so
I feel like in terms of how
Gaiman wants to play the game where they have
the tempo, they have the pipe,
they have the mech...
Those are the two heroes
that let them play like
that.
We said at the end of
the draft that it felt
like both teams had
something that they were
comfortable with, but
we're still talking about
it as if this was a
draft diff in terms of how
gaming was able to demolish
Team Liquid. I think so, I mean I think
it was an outdraft, I think it was probably
70-30, back to the
drawing board on that one, It's just that the way
that Blitz likes to draft
is that he goes for a window
of opportunity to win the game.
However, I do believe
the window in that game
was very small and because of Gaiman's incredible
early gameplay they couldn't hit the windows.
So if you pick a better draft and get a bigger window it gives you more room for error.
And against this team they look like
Pete Gaiman right now.
You want some room for error
because there's going to be mistakes.
It didn't look like game and had many errors on their end was there
anything in terms of itemization or anything like that the team liquid could have done differently
maybe different facets.
There's a lot of good facets in that game, we saw the tiny toss
doing some work, Nisha really tried his best
That's one of those facets where if you're
ahead it feels really strong, if you're
behind and against the pipes it doesn't work out well. Speaking of facets, Seller
with that Enchantress walking up to high ground
he felt unkillable
with the healing facet like that feels
OP right now. It really does and I'm sure
that Brian is gonna highlight some of that as well
as we're going to head over to him to hear what he has to say.
For those of you who haven't gotten the chance to watch or play too much Dota
recently, there was a big patch that gave all the heroes
of choice, most of them at least between two facets
as the start of the game and these facets have made
some of these heroes super strong viable
it also changed a little bit about the way they play, and so I just want to touch on
a few facets from this game and how it had impact on the heroes. So first we're going
to be looking at Elder Titan's new facet which when
we pull up we are gonna see a big five-man ET Spirit.
And his facet at the top momentum here
He has a 75% or 75 attack speed penalty
But he gets 30 percent of his move speed
Towards his attack speed.
So when we play this out and he has the spirit going,
he has 395 attack... uh,
movespeed which is approximately 120
bonus attack speed minus the 75.
He's rocking an extra 50 attack speed
in this root engagement, allowing Insania
to deal out a significant
amount of damage compared to what he would have
prior to the facet patch.
So we're going to pull up the next facet, which is Hoodwink
Which is why she's getting picked very often in the early game
which is a facet that allows her Acorn Shot
to bounce off of trees not requiring
a second unit to be there
which allows her to use it against the solo hero
like you're seeing here.
It's going to hit the ET
and then it's gonna bounce off the tree
and you effectively get twice as much harass damage in lane
and why Hoodring feels so strong in lane right now?
And when we pull up the next facet,
we have Tiny. When you think about
toss, you've always thought about blink-tossing people
back and usually the person who gets tossed
is taking the most amount of damage.
However, with his new facet, as we're going to crunch the numbers
a little bit here, we pull up
Toss Damage. It does 320
damage at max level. If
we pull up Tiny's Ultimate which makes Toss
do more damage flat on the target that you toss.
We see that it's 100%
extra damage.
So 420
total damage on Toss if you were to
toss the unit itself.
However, with the new facet we're
going to check out this crash landing here
he gets 40% bonus damage if a unit is landed
on 40% of 320, that's actually over
120 damage so it's actually more
damage to toss something onto somebody
rather than tossing them
the unit themselves. So what are you going to see in this
tiny game? Something very different then before, which is that when Nisha goes in
he's gonna find the Enchantress. Instead of tossing her back
He actually gonna go back to his own teammate
and tosses his teammate on top of the enchantress for maximum damage
And for the last fast of the game is the one
Jenkins alluded to, which is Enchantress'
heal facet, which makes it so
for every 250 damage you take
you get a healing wisp that effectively
heals you for 4 seconds based on how much your level of
your wisps are which right now they're healing for eight hp per second so every 250 damage he takes
he's getting 32 hp back over the course of four seconds,
and we're going to see that play a crucial role
in Celery's ability to walk into the enemy triangle
and effectively
body for the rest of his team as we're going to
see Liquid desperately down by 3K already,
going on him with Nisha's Tiny as well as Boxy.
And he's going to live with about 100 HP.
And this is a situation where if Tiny knew
he was one hit away from dying,
he may be willing to commit.
But because he still has over 100 HP
from this new facet,
it makes that big of a difference.
So this is just pointing out
how these facets play a role
in these heroes getting picked,
how they change the way
these heroes get picked.
And I feel like we've learned a lot about facets.
People underestimate just how much
these guys need to live this game
in order to do well.
And I should know
Team Liquid almost wins with everything everything when a new patch drops
everything changes our habits our gameplay but with every
patch our lives change with the game like literally after the last patch
rolled up we just woke up and were like
what the hell are these?
Worked out better for some of us than others.
Every morning is the same.
Wake up at 1pm, hit alarm and choose
the faucet for the entire day.
You pick the wrong one accidentally
and all of a sudden, the entire day is screwed.
Oh. There is asshole? No way! Oh,.
There he is.
No way!
I'm not a fan.
Misclicking facets can be bad, sure.
But some people just have garbage facets. Unlock!
Amar, what do you want to do today?
Brother, you can pick one of these two. Doesn't matter. Any Anyone is really good.
Snaking, can you please pick your good facet today? Snaking!
Snaking!
SNAKE! Hey, Snake! Snay thing. Snay thing. Snay!
Hey Siri, tweet UOG!
Letting players choose their own facets puts a lot of pressure on us coaches.
Because you know, players are idiots.
Hello? Hello Habibi what is this?
What? This?
Bro, I took it for the armor. Sure bro, it's only for the armor.
You filthy stealing Rubik!
What is the matter if I take one kill or two?
At the end we are one team.
Stop stealing my kills!
Brother, let me see your face. one thing stop stealing my kids Everyone wants to play a game with me for 13 minutes! Show me your life!
Hey buddy, how are you doing today?
You feeling fine? Everything's good?
Let's get you a nice haircut okay?
We're gonna make you look pretty.
And also your friend can watch. That's totally fine.
You are going to give this guy the best
haircut of his life! Do you know who this guy is?!
He's an Indonesian God from Indonesia!
The Jekiro god. Look at him.
He needs to be looked next right now!
He needs to be your door right now! Let's go!
Let's go baby, it's all good in the hood. Run it back, let's go, let's go!
Look at that, we zoomed in on the white wine haircut for whatever reason.
That's funny, I'm so upset with you guys.
He had such nice hair too!
I've been around a long time and played a lot of different patches
And to me new patches they motivate me
oh come on
yeah it can be a little demotivating too my facets suck
at least i got a huge innate. so so so so so so so so so so so so It's the EWC and you want to play like a pro.
Well, we've got a lesson for you.
Axon.
You're fresh ready to and grind those long hours.
It's how it should be.
Axe Off.
You're slow, unfocused, and lagging.
Do you get it?
Let's go again.
To unleash your best game, you must freshen up. Let's go again.
To unleash your best game, you must freshen up first. Get your axe on!
Spray play repeat.
Axe in Esports World Cup.
Music so so. so We are getting ready for game number two here between Team Liquid and Gaming Gladiators in our upper bracket finals.
I must say, after watching the first series of the day with three Falcons and PSG Quest.
And that game 3 was so epic, I was a little bit disappointed
with this first game but we have to give credit where credit is due
GameN absolutely crushed it, Effie.
They really did. That early game
was incredibly clean and ultimately
that is what elevated them
over Liquid but I also think
that Liquid really drafted themselves into a very small window of effectiveness.
I mentioned it in the pre-game,
but I think that Gaben's draft was comfortable at every stage in the game
whereas Liquid's draft had a very small window to be effective
in that first 25 minutes. But
they really just couldn't get anything going.
And I think a good place to start for
Liquid would just be to
put Boxy in more of more playmaking type of hero
because the mix didn't work for them, Brian.
Yeah and you mentioned
in the pregame panel of Game 1 Mira
that like his Underlord counters Tiny's playstyle pretty hard
there were couple times where Nisha was trying to make
a solo play for the burst damage combo,
where in theory worst case scenario he's just going to walk away but then
the Underlord portal from anywhere on the map
just appears behind him and it seemed like half of the time
his only escape was to try to go through
the portal itself, um, and that didn't
work out. So it feels like Gaiman just
had Team Liquid's number on
just the... basically foreseeing
what they're gonna pick, knowing preemptively like we picked the Underlord
before your Tiny.
We know it really deals well with it
if you still plan to pick it.
So it seemed like their bread and butter
was good against the bread and butter of Team Liquid
and it was very calculated Enchantress
against Beastmaster,
Underlord against Tiny etc. Yeah I love how Sattler played the
ench honestly when he went through the portal
and just said okay you want to cut my creep wave on the Nyx assassin kill
my creeps? You're letting my carry free farm
guess what enchantress is one of the
best heroes at turning a dual lane into
a tri-lane and diving towers it's a
quad line with the creep but they're
quads sometimes they even just send the
creep then it's a they even just send the creep in.
They basically get an extra hero through the portal.
That was a really nice pivot from him.
So I can understand why Team Liquid
just bans out both the jungle heroes.
Celery...
He knows his stuff with these heroes
too much. And
Liquid just say whatever. We're not giving
you either of these. We'll expend a ban.
We don't care. It's better than
overcorrecting in our draft to try to deal with it and i do like this approach but now
so much is left in the pool right you've got your beast masters about your snap fires you've got oh
your hoodwink gets taken out you've got your pangos there's a lot to work with here and of course Sand King
I actually think Liquid expected Gaiman to ban Beastmaster in the last two bans
of the first round after having banned Enchanter's Chin.
Like, I think that's why they banned it
and then I think they took so long on that Hoodwing band
because they were thinking like,
okay, we...
Like you mentioned there,
all these heroes are in the pool now.
We've got our picker of the litter.
Which one do we want? And they elect to go for the sand
king which they played against tundra's san king three games in a row yesterday or two days ago
um but now it's back in their hands i think this is the first time they've gotten it
in quite a while.
It's almost always been first pick or ban against them.
So, in the BB Team series versus...
Was it X extra? It was
actually they did play Sand King
versus Pango, actually in that
mid lane and GPK kind of owned
the Sun King as a pangol. So I'm
still not sure if that was a
hero specific thing or XM just looked way too clumsy on it, but that could be a hero they addressed the Sand King with already.
Yeah, I kind of chalked that up to a Bronze tier sand king with dota plus performance
um but it's hard to say until we see it time and time again i'm curious what gwynne thinks
the counter to shan kane, because clearly Gaiman figured out
the Tiny. So I trust that they have
also figured out the Sand King
because these have been two of
the problem heroes of the tournament
We've seen Infoker picked against King, where you drop an EMP and the sandstorm
and then he has to walk out of it.
You're a universal hero, you do good damage, you're not walking into the creep wave and
dying to the new Sand King spell so then it's also Quinn's most
picture on this tournament there is no sell a primal beast versus
some king that I think really could work.
Also, I believe Mage Slayer Ember
could be really effective versus Sand King
and Liquid themselves two days ago
showed us Eilish versus Sand King
so all of these things you have to have in mind when
you are picking it in the first phase yeah keep in mind that brew muster is
still on the pool as well for now i think sinking's very good
against brew okay i think that's partially why they picked it,
is that they still end up banning the CK.
I was going to ask her about that
because it's good against Brew,
it's good against CK at the Sankey
I'm talking about.
I did just want to know,
I looked through to confirm
the last five games Liquid played,
Tundra and Team Spirit their respective opponents first picked SanKing
like every single game
and then up until 10 days ago was their last game of SanKing on team Liquid
and the only reason they haven't picked it
is because it's been first-round banned every single game.
Was it that good when they played it?
Yeah, but they were winning.
So in all the two or three games on this page they were winning.
So clearly there's a reason that
this has been getting first pick first ban. Every team thinks that this is
their staple hero for Team Liquid and Gaimaniman showed that like, oh we give you
Tiny, we give you Beastmaster or two other
stable heroes for Team Liquid.
They now give him a different one and say hey,
we'll beat this one too. I respect the
courage there.
And with this Invoker ban by Ganon,
they're also respecting
the potential of the Sand King
to be played offline.
It doesn't necessarily have
to be their mid hero
and that is a 3-3 specialty here
from way back in the Thunder days when he would pick sand king and just split question b
a huge nuisance where's the 33 enigma that just
because i feel like when you see,
like Weaver or Brewmaster having
like that reliable lockdown is super nice.
And it's a summon hero.
It can buy minor auras like drums and stuff.
Doesn't usually buy bigger auras like Breeze because
it goes BKB, but I guess
it would reveal your flex.
So the Sand King versus Brew dynamic,
has changed a little bit with how Gaiman
have been playing Brew. They've been skipping their
Radiance and they're going going Vessel, Pipe, Crimson
and then you just use those auras
and your rulings don't die in Sandstorm like
they used to. But I still think it's a very
advantageous matchup for Sand King
However though Ace has looked so high tempo on it but it does fit into what gg plays
and they don't really care about the counter yeah i guess this is similar to what liquid picked
against gigi in the last game which is a little concerning for gg but i also think they
just outplayed um in the fact that they have picked into what is now considered to be quite
a counter because stinger does physical damage so you bur burrow in and kill all the Berulings pretty much.
Well if you kill one then you kill them all right?
Yeah exactly, it does so much damage
And Gaiman is saying, well okay we're so confident in this tempo that Mira was talking about
This window that we have with this hero that we are going to beat it anyway
Wow! What do we make of this early troll? Because you can see the brood,
you can play a troll and a troll would also be good versus Weaver if it were flex to carry
It's the dispel aspect of Aghs for Troll.
It's just a super cheap...
When I say cheap, it's low cooldown,
low mana cost.
Groot doesn't have any silencers or anything like this.
Weaver usually buys Glytnir,
so they're offering a lot of dispellable
abilities
and items coming out from
GG, and Troll has been
one of the best performing heroes of the tournament
I've seen, at least later in the stages
of playoffs and with Doom out of the pool
that's like one of the heroes that generally is insta-responded
to Troll. And Doom's been, stocks have been rising
consistently over the playoffs,
and so I think Troll's going to be able
to squeak his way in earlier in the draft.
Is this some like Giga 5 head thing
where they're picking troll and disruptor
knowing that a Dark Seer can't come out
because there is a Panda on the other side.
So, that way on this fourth pick here they could get a Dark Seer?
Well I don't think they were...
If you're picking Trolls
The enemy is not going to pick Dark Seers.
Yeah exactly! That's what I'm saying.
But they already have Brew that's what i'm saying preventing but they already have brew
no i'm i'm saying you mean darks are going to put a picture on there oh you're saying they're
covering their own so they can pick it up so fine that i couldn't even follow your reason
and then maybe cm out is to cover a potential dark seer pic maybe less so off because he's
a radiant spire but i know this well does decently well in lane with the CM.
Does this mean by the way that the Weaver is support?
Or can Alco mid as well?
The flex is open between Alcari and Weaver carry right now.
And for Team Liquid, they still have Pango
plus Tiny in the pool.
Oh, they went with Ember.
I really like Ember in games
where there are no reliable disables.
Like it's very...
You're only worried about the Frostbite early on but they don't have a really good way of locking you down.
So it's pretty solid Ember pick here.
I want to talk about Disruptor too because we didn't get to talk about it.
I personally love this hero versus Brewmaster and Weaver.
It's one of the hardest counters to these two heroes,
weaver being mobility based hates being glimpsed back into static storm,
hates kinetic field.
Brewmaster, the way you counter this hero is that
you just silence it before it can Bruce Split And that way you counter this hero is that you just silence it before it can boost split,
and that way you win the fight.
Teams have moved away from disruptor but we did see it during play-ins by PSG Quest
and it looked pretty good in that game.
And its a ground targeted silenced that's not affected by status resist, right?
A lot of these other silences or stuns against brew have looked kind of bad
because you just brew yourself up and go for the purple form
and you've got ton of status resist.
You pipe Crimson, you don't die
It's a similar concept to what I was thinking about
with Enigma but it comes from the support role
also offers you a lot more catch rather than
like the Auras and momentum so
my only concern for Team Liquid right now when I look at their draft is they don't
have any Auras, like they've
already locked in three of their cores
usually Sand King as an offlaner
even we saw Miro yesterday go
Bloodstone normal mid lane-esque Sanh King.
Maybe 33 will deviate a little bit
in order to fulfill that role for his team
maybe they feel like with Disruptor mobility
Sanh King mobility
Ember Mobility we'll see a similar situation that we saw Tundra versus BB Team Game 1
where BB Team just never fought them and then they won the game that way.
So The Alchemist for Gaiman I will say
is kind of like their discount CK.
It represents a similar pace. He gets one or two items
Radiance, Blink BKB
in any given order and runs a U.
So I think that's why they usually use Alchemist
and it's like a blind pick so it's more like setting up quinn to carry the
game but having a tempo carry i think that's what it is i think it's pretty locked in like weaver 4
cm5 out carry what's the ember hard carry counter? I mean, not hard carry. The hard counter that will play in mid lane against us.
They banned out SF and Huskar. Monkey King is already out as well.
There are still the Game Man Heroes right?
There's still Pango.
OD
Pango has been left in the pool
and there's still Tiny actually
Quinn hasn't played with this tournament yet though
And OD that you mentioned also i feel like od actually owns
their entire lineup by the way it owns ember in lane it owns troll it owns disruptors has
the lowest int gain at all dota it is not counting huskar in this case. Because he has literally no mana.
It is an insufferable matchup for the Trojan.
I would love to see a Quinn OD here,
maybe it's just too bad of a hero because we haven't really seen
it at all.
And also... I feel like it slows their tempo quite a bit like who are they going
to play around i guess taraccio if his lane goes well oh he can fight mid game as long as
he has people running in for him that hero does damage sure but i'm thinking like early game like prior to 15 minutes
what are they going to do they are pretty stagnant stagnant lanes or you're right
they just kind of chill on lane that's fair it could be an issue versus disruptor
this is stuff like actually the thing about this hero that we've forgotten
because they haven't seen it that often is he block picks a lot of mid heroes in
that last pick like spirit heroes suffer versus disruptor puck suckers
versus destructor because it gives you that means to silence them and kill them earlier oh that's a
hard counter i was not expecting that one.
Talk to me about Dazzle Izzy Hard Counter.
That's way better than mine.
You press Q on Ember and then hit him,
and then hit him,
and it hits physical damage
and keeps refreshing
and then bursts.
Can you S dodge it?
You... I think it chases
you, but depending on where your
slight goes to, it's like
luck-based. You can fake it as well,
but I know people will slight when they hear the
noise of it because that's when the spell is actually cast so we'll see
i think it's hard to dodge though i think this is a terrifying dazzle pick
outside of winning lane it's to be the shallow grave save on
the Static Storm Brewmaster where if Brewmaster
lives through that silence and presses ulti
because Dazzle keeps them alive, they
win the fight. The same goes for Weaver. You're going
to have the minus armor to play with your Alchemist and your Weaver
and get that early Roshan,
and there isn't that much jump you have to worry about.
It's actually only Sand King and Ember
that are going to jump you,
so you have a good means to protect yourself
if you have a good lane, which he does. So this
Basel pick looking kind of scary, Brian.
Yeah, I mean it does everything I wanted from OD
but it's a way better option because it's high
tempo and it basically makes everybody
on the team a bad target for troll because he could just grave whoever's getting
hit by troll. I'll just say
if gaming gets ahead at all, I feel like this game
is insta-over because you're just never going to be able
to kill anybody. You're going to have Auras from Brewery, you're going to have Alchemist
frontlining, Dazzle in the back like mirror
mentioned there's limited gap close to ever burst this dazzle they have so much split damage
the sand king sandstorm the side of fist on the side of liquid like they don't have very good
single target until troll gets a ton of items i'm concerned for liquid here
so i would love to see an interview with blitz and see what he has to say about the dazzle thing
i feel like he's feeling pretty it's like oh this is a rough one well spoiler alert
we will get some words from bless but we're not just there yet.
I want to hear what Liquid needs to do in order
to win this game.
So I think Liquid would need
to rotate their supports
to the mid lane and try
to shut down Dazzle early so he doesn't get an item advantage over Ember. And then
if they can just keep playing tempo and making
sure that Dazzle doesn't have that free game,
then they can make plays on the map. So
bring the supports early to mid but guess what game and love to do that too
i think this game is so much about uh so much about forcing reactions well we're gonna hear
a reaction right now from blitz hey bullets uh what did you think about the drafts?
I think pretty interesting.
This is a really difficult team to draft against because their hero pulls are diverse and pretty cool
so I'm pretty happy we got heroes that we wanted.
Are you worried about the Dazzle? Yeah,
it's definitely annoying and that's kind of what Quinn does
is like he's got cheese
can't do the honest 1v1 versus Nisha but
you know, I think Nisha can cope. It's all good.
What happened to the Tiny? They didn't ban it?
You didn't pick it? Are you over it now?
No, not at all. Just wanted to try something
new. It's still a long tournament
for us one way or another so just kind of want to see
what can work and yeah, just mix things
up once in a while. And why the Snapfire
for your last support pick? Just kind of fit the lane
or... I don't know, BoxD said let me cook
and usually when you're player is feeling really confident
we have like 20 seconds left. There's no real discussion it's just like pick-me-snap
I'm gonna cook alright? Let's get it! Alright, thank you for the interview
Cheers Thank you for the interview. Cheers.
Well, a mix of the brain and mixed with hearts I suppose in this draft
so brain wise not going to be feeling
so good
about being cheesed by a dazzle pick.
I mean, they talked about how this is a long tournament.
Got to experiment with some drafting still.
They're in the upper...
Their both teams are in the upper bracket, so
they have some room to experiment
and still figure things out for the meta, sure.
But gaming gladiators
bring back a dazzle hero
that they haven't played in five months, Avery.
Only five months? I actually thought it would have been longer.
Yeah. I feel like I haven't seen this hero forever.
Yeah, it was only a handful
of times and for some reason
it was like four times against Bed Boom boom i don't know if there's anything spicy
there they just really really like that tofu is gonna be the first one though as mickey will
be traded out here and it looks like boxy as well so while liquid do manage to get that
coveted first blood gold a lot more goes back to gaming gladiators and ace is rolling in the dough
yeah gaming are happy about that trait. They got a lot
for the Brewmaster there which is the hero you
wanted. Again this team loves to play around Ace
with their early Auras. The faster they come online
everything just comes together for them. They have Dazzle
to give you sustain behind those auras too,
so they're that much stronger and this
is a Dazzle who's looking to dominate
this mid lane matchup. This can be
an extremely one-sided affair
if Quinn gets the upper hand there are no ganks that come through
so there's a lot of pressure on Liquid in this game
in my opinion to play
a much better early game than they did last time against some
cheesier counterpicks as well
really get this disruptor online Sania he's gonna have to do some heavy lifting
in terms of the early game catch and kill potential you're gonna have to skew this ember lane somehow
or maybe nisha is just an absolute god can can get through it. But
it looks rough from my opinion. I
think this amount of sustained game and have
a Brewmaster that should reliably be able to get off
splits and get an early pipe or
vessel, flads, whatever you want in this game
that five man just looks scary
you have some staff fire, sand king can fight
into it so maybe you look
towards the lane of 33 and boxy
to pick up some of the pace this time around
compared to last game especially.
If you're liquid, and that could be your saving grace
here.
Crazy?
I don't know. we'll see what the
this I thought
that disruptor was
pretty questionable
because I was
looking at like
the pace of gaming
gladiators took in
game one and
thought okay if they're gonna be
following up and running at you like how good is disruptor really
in dealing with them it's just like glimpses usually got the
best defensive but uh i do think there is something to be said
about this facet on disruptor the kinetic fence one i think it's relatively unexplored
there are some interactions that all that I think are really interesting,
though I don't know if any of these
interactions are in this matchup.
See, maybe
it helps against the Weaver in some regard,
but he just tags Insania and puts
him damage onto Mikkei.
This is going to be really hard for them to deal with.
Roll out the barrel into Shikuchi. There's
not much to stop that activation.
Yeah, I'm not even sure I would have won if the fences came
when you're trying
to lock down
Weaver Brewmaster.
Yeah.
Maybe you're worried
about Graves bailing
heroes out
so the fence is going
to provide more
teamfight utility.
33 fights back and wins the man
fight against Aranchio, he will
die to the acid spray for sure but
manages to get the experience
which is all important. This is
saving grace right now for Liquid that this sand king is getting off to an
okay start because there's a lot of extra gold on the side of game and they came ahead pre-lanes
in a strong position and quinn is starting to own mid 14-4
to 6-0. This is looking like a Huskar
Ember lane. It's about as bad.
If you can get the Mage
Slayer on Ember, then you can start
doing some work in these fights.
Can you get there, man?
It is looking real rough out here.
You already have
the two kills that you got
so you had an experience advantage over the
Ember Spirit. You had a bit of a gold advantage, then you got four
bounty runes and you're in
a 90-10 matchup or
something like that.
It really is not set up better
for Quinn though this lane continues to go well.
The combination of Lil' Shredder bust
Stinger is particularly deadly
as neither one of these heroes
has a whole lot of armor
to contend with that physical burst that's coming.
We saw in that other interview with Ace, they got four runes
in one of those games and he got asked, you know, how good is
four runes in a competitive match?
He kind of lowbrowed it. You know what? It's pretty good.
It's really favorable. When Dota Player
tells you something is pretty good, that means it's broken.
He is absolutely broken and
Gaming are running away with this lane phase
despite some of the kills coming out from Liquid.
I mean, these are like recovery
kills for this lane phase.
Alright,
offense blocks off the Brewmaster.
That's about as best you can do and toku still gets the kill on mickay hey
this this lovely just looks off is this worse than game one yeah i think it might even just can't stand on these lanes at all
they pulled the lanes 33 comes back to try and save boxy but
it's not good enough and now these creeps are dying under towers
so kill himself with that grenade um i feel like you're gonna walk that one off
no i mean it slowed down the alchemist though. And Alchemists are still faster than him so...
Yeah and also chunk this HP.
I don't know, this does not feel like a game Liquid aren't getting anything they want radiance bottom have to win lanes against game of gladiators
demolished in lanes and absolutely a cheesy team they will cheese you in the
lanes because they know they can usually just go higher on to 20. we don't have time to
recover that on the map it's not being stable concoction
we'll survive for now This battle over this jungle area
continues at bottom lane.
33's still getting a lot down here.
Yeah, he is. They're going to have to ride
the Sand King
to success
at this rate because it is the only core that is doing all right
yeah let's just not look at the network chart for a while in this game keep
it keep it on that cs ladder production can we hide that little 2k that's
there maybe maybe i could kill score too i mean the cs is looking it's
looking pretty good right now you know yeah yeah relatively even
just Yeah, yeah. Let's see if he has it relatively even. Just the 32
left. Maybe
fantasy points.
That's a little
more even. Hey, look at that!
It's a dead even game on Fantasy Point.
Yeah, someone is really happy about that right now.
That was probably Valve that you highlighted a defunct system no longer does anything
well it's okay you could always go to this courier too man you can always go
to the tpc app and place your prediction what is happening
in this game right now liquid just bleeding out network
it's when pushing admit okay they're gonna try
all run action and queen 1v3 because he's legitimately quite He's gonna try and make that happen. couldn't even really get close to that. They still managed to get a kill on the Disruptor
out of it, but against Nisha
a little bit of time
and experience maybe can get him
to six. He was just getting abused
straight up. You have to contest his six minute power rune as well,
see if Jaemin can take it away from the Ember
and they'll force Boxy to steal it
but that's a shield wound
that doesn't go into the Dazzle's bottle
so you're still happy about that.
Get the refill.
The Embers almost level 6 this is the toughest part of the lane
that rotation was i mean about as good timing as you're gonna get
got the dazzle pill you're going to get the ember to 6. he denied
the power rune and he killed that catapult wave.
Decent amount of damage done.
Tofu outpacing Insani here
will take the boundary rune away from him.
Still a lot of scary pace these supports were gaining consent right now,
Maiden and Weaver if they combine anywhere on the map it's just a fleeting frenzy
as Ace applies the pressure into Mikkei. This might just be another kill on the troll.
You got it.
Tofu gets here way before the Disruptor can.
Tv's are coming in, maybe with some misses
and Amber Spirit having level six.
Mikkei is going to die. can nisha get anything out of this he's out of mana
and saying he has run in hope and he can glib something but
you just run to something seven wisdom room here on.
I don't know, this feels really bad for Nisha
This double bracer headdress brew is just regenerating in your face
and the urn is now done for the weaver.
Quinn's going to take your tower in the meantime.
He's chipping away at it.
Who wants to go mid?
We were talking about how much this dazzle ember lane is tough.
This troll suffered more. Okay i thought we were killing him
okay they glimpse it instead and go for celery
there's a value yes yeah kind of left in an awkward
situation.
Cookie misses... If they killed
the Alchemist, then he doesn't have TP
on his Revox though.
That could've been Mega Valorant. yeah and there's that net worth chart that
is a lot more terrifying here the product of the kills the four runes
the extra kills on troll the cour deaths. Just so much extra team gold
going into Gaiman's pocket here
and Mikke is gonna be
on some jungle recovery
time
Liquid time
liquid what is a timing that they can play for here to chip away at some of this network lead lead the game gladiators are always going
to have this case because they have 4 000 right now and it's with an alchemist so
probably means that they're gonna be up by you know 15k by 20 minutes
hurry teams you know, 15k by 20 minutes. Are you saying that's the time
Liquid can play for?
I don't understand your question.
I'm asking you what is Liquid playing
for you? I mean, what time do they play tomorrow
there's a timing well they're gonna be playing in the first series that's lower bracket final
that's not bad but you gotta you gotta play through this guy right here
this is your best bet to come back in this game,
kick good fights around Tier 1s with the Sand King,
use the AoE to punish an overextension from Gaiman.
These heroes are still fairly squishy right now.
We could definitely kill them.
The Wimps kills would be amazing.
Amp damage on the ember
do you think another fence gets put down no retreat for the dazzle now the primal split
to run down supports we'll get the disrupt for sure. Still a very good trade
for Liquid. Certainly. Managed
to line up another quick Dazzle Kill in this
laning phase, make it look easy. Look at
that line! Boxy rides
between Tier 1 and Tier, staying out of sight
the whole way. Well played.
He's almost level six, which
the fact that they're getting kills with Snapfire
Disruptor without level sixes is
impressing me. This Ember
is strong in this early game, even
though he's kind of behind. Hero still
does a lot of damage. He has good spells.
What's going on?
He got a courier. Cross used he doesn't have tp
foxy do you want to stay alive
good i do neutral camp maybe
some time wasted you know yeah get that little saturn cream can he kill a second set economic economic damage.
It's gonna be a slow crawl back onto the map for these two supports as both are going to be forced back into the fountain, try and make another play after that, you're still looking for these
level 6s. Okay, so if
you're going to play through this Sand King
does that mean you think 33 should
go blink dead? Because he is not
I don't think you can afford to. I think you have because he is not.
I don't think you can afford to.
I think you have to rely on your support to set the fight.
Like Ember gives you pretty reliable catch
in this game.
Glimpse also does so
and you also know the fight's coming to you
but you're not gonna have to go find heroes in this game of your liquid they
are going to be in your face i do not think that blink really does
anything you're also going to have to combat a pretty fast pipe out from the
crewmaster which is going to negate a lot of your early spell
damage as ace is full mega farm trying to get an epicenter from the trees can you burst
them through fade them in.
They just get close enough,
maybe 33.
They actually start going
for the kisses.
Hits up the back line
not too bad.
Gloves back and Quinn
gets a little bit stuck.
You have Shallow Grape
this time around
to commit for it.
Epic Center Brew strike in and Shallowgrape this time around, they commit for it. F is in or pro strike in and Shallowgrape wears out.
He ends up going down.
Ace is still very strong though
And right on top of 33 as well as Boxy.
Those two are both gonna die.
The cookie shot attempted.
Not quite good enough.
Nisha pushes forward
to cut the creep live
in the meanwhile
and goes for the kill
on Crystal Beam.
Doesn't get it
and now he's going
to be chain-stunned.
Boyd Liquid!
He took some risks in game one to try and get some kills when they were behind.
It didn't pay off, and I'm
feeling like that's beginning to happen here in this
game too. Just such a tough fight especially with the kisses
not being able to really like burst the hero at the start here it takes so long for 33 to get
disengagement channel and epicenter for 10 seconds here and half of it gets wasted on nothing.
And he's the most damaged in this
fight by far, what you're
hoping to.
Really isn't even, you know, drilled
in this fight or much impact on the out just
the support's doing a lot here for gaming as they
get multiple rounds of spells off you can get across by at the end to finish
off the ember nisha he dies with almost a whole mana pool
that's not what you want to see if you're Liquid.
And I'm not
saying you're wrong about it.
For me though, it's just the supports
these ultimates would have
a lot easier time landing
if you have a bling stuff,
especially since
you have this kinetic wall instead of the
AOE kinetic field.
That's why I go back to the kinetic fence
for Steelchoice though. Just being able to lock that's why i go back to the kinetic fence for steel choice though i feel like the
just being able to lock somebody in a kinetic field
helps your lineup so much like those fences are honestly pretty good it locked the dazzling
kind of force point into an awkward position you have chains you can play
off of and pipe at 11 40 with radiance i mean what are you supposed to do right now if gaming can start forcing objective
you're just not winning the final fight okay he's gonna be forced to use his old
okay here doesn't even get off the ult.
There is no point right?
Yeah, I mean he's dead either way.
Yeah, Bokki getting run down in the bottom lane
The wall blocking Celery from pursuing
but a primal split is going to be used so Ace is going to look for two bottom lane, the wall blocking Celery from pursuing
but a primal split's gonna be used so Ace is going to look for two kills off of this.
The fence does manage to block him off so he'll just get boxed.
Feels like game one, just crumbling around the map.
Can't get a good team fight together.
Can't get to one of their big items
on the course. Sand King's continuing
to still find the most farm
with everybody pushing towards Bloodstone maybe you can turn
some objective defense with that item you know the push has got to be coming for this wizard
at least a threat of it
maybe not choke will catch the mid wave, they'll hit the tier 1 tower at bottom
I mean the Radiant wards are just so good right now
They have vision on effectively three lanes
One smack going for the Brewmaster,
and they are gonna blow a lot to kill him.
The Insanians doing a really good job landing these walls.
Oh yeah,
they have been absolutely on point this game
saving grace here for liquid they find a big kill extra gold for the sand king that is a seven
yeah i was just about to say that as a big kill wow ace was worth over a thousand gold
you know i guess that's the double-edged sword and like man we got 1100 gold for that kill
oh wait it's only 14 minutes in the game why is he worth 1100 gold guys
i was like when uh to call us all chatted his uh his death bounty yesterday
you know when you see that number is high,
you're like, oh.
Something went wrong.
Still time to recover this game though?
Bloodstone done for the Sand King.
Yeah, and it'll help him here.
Topu put some damage on him, 33 heals it back
up
It may have killed the Brewmaster
once but they used a lot
to be able to do so underneath the tower.
Second go around isn't going to be easy.
I mean, obviously position doesn't look terrible for Liquid
considering what happened in this game.
But I feel like they found a decent amount on their cores
for how much map control they lost, tier ones they lost
bounty runes they lost
lanes they lost
Ember's only 1,000 back
Maelstrom's done so you have
a decent timing here if you're
Liquid to try and regain some map control, get a good
fight going behind the tankiness of the Sand King.
Some damage from the Ember Spirit.
Just gotta land these big spells together.
And the Static Storm, if it can lock in a Dazzle or
Brewmaster and you can play through the Shallow Grave,
You're gonna be pretty happy in that fight.
These heroes are still kinda squishy outside of the Grave, you're going to be pretty happy in that fight.
These heroes are still kind of squishy outside the auras on Ace
which, I mean, Mech Clip's already done
and that is a lot to fight
through here but you're looking at like Maiden Weaver
Dazzled. There's no real armor, no survivability on these heroes
if they get locked in a cage.
33 being very careful knows that Game of Gladiators
are coming in with some aggression.
Xenia blocks him off the fence
and blooms back, ace
draws a lot of attention and yet nobody
dies. Durachi was spotted up here, they have the scan,
the kisses they're looking for on 33 finds them
on the side now they're going to pop epicenter
here, Doraccio actually maybe had a chance
field use TPF but assumed probably the ember spirit
would have caught him well that is a kill i do not think liquid or expecting to get
but they will gladly take an alchemist at this point in the game, as he is powering up.
There's a lot of GPM loss for Karachio sitting on the sidelines
for 40 seconds here.
A lot of breathing room for Liquid.
I mean, the fact that they get any sort of pick-off
when Gaming Gladiators had this timing you were talking about, the fact that they get any sort of pick off when gaming gladiators had this timing.
You're talking about the pipe radiance timing.
Radiance on one hero, pipe on the other?
I feel like that's an unstoppable 5v5 combo.
The thing is you either go roach or you go tier 2 with it.
Roche, you lose gold to tape.
Tier 2 is pretty slow
and you're giving a good fight for Liquid.
I think
Daemon might have been too fast for their own good.
Unsure what to do with it, and your catch
for the Ember is limited. This is where the Ember can shine.
Yeah, the early games are up, but
he's going to be able to rat out this map really hard
against your line. And that was something that was
missing from game one, right?
Liquid had a hard time being able to
wrap the game and also feel good
about their scale
both of which looks better in this game
Yeah honestly I don't
I don't think Liquid are too sad about what's happening on the map right
now like you have all this five-man strength
on gaming but you can't use it for anything right now you don't have best
you're not getting vessel charges
you didn't get some crazy fight out of this radiance
pipe timing roche isn't being
slain right now your tier twos aren't being
pushed your sand king is
continuing to farm up at a very decent
pace still have some ancient control and there's crazy good warts for gaming
these these radiant observers have been deep for the whole game they just haven't
really smoked to them or used them too well.
Cookie to try and get him out of range of the Unstable Concoction, it still goes off
but this far away with Bloodstone still up
and the Bug now gone, in fact
The bug, the real bug might die underneath Static Storm.
But Liquid don't want to commit to it and they know
the Shallow Grave is coming from Quinn.
Do not want to overcommit into that one
especially over committing into a Radiance.
Maybe Nisha gets to push in the entire top lane here over committing into a Radiance.
He should get the push in the entire top lane here
all the way to the Tier 1.
He's just going to go behind
the Tier 1 and cut the next wave.
The Dorach will make up for it
with some Skeleton Boys.
Yeah, definitely happy to see those taking a little bit
of ancient snacks as well uh feels like the time where if you're gaming you kind of just have to
force the roche even if it's maybe not the best play on the map just to start getting the timer running.
Or be happier
splitting up.
Just another option.
You know, they're going to show this Brewmaster top and still try
and maintain control of the jungle area player on their wards.
Kind of giving up the idea of a true 5-on-5 fight like it's not gonna get them okay.
Just get greedy on the map stuff.
Yeah I mean don't be able to get really greedy on the map. Yeah, I mean they'll be able to get really greedy
on the map if they give BKBs on both their
cores right? If Dazzle and Alch
both get BKB which they've queued up right now
then there is nothing to stop them from
TPing way outside of the troll and I feel like a lot of times
The trolls just not gonna be strong enough to challenge that
Anytime soon anyway as he is
Not the highest on net worth.
Had some ag spilled up right now.
They would love to be able to kill Quinn here, but they just cannot commit to it.
Mass TP's coming through! BoxyTP will get him! to be able to kill Quinn here, but they just cannot commit to it.
Mass TP's coming through.
Boxy TP white on stable concoction will put a stop for that one.
It was a nice setup.
Gaming were ready for it.
They got a lot of reactions
out of gaming gladiators. Gladiators still gotta kill for it they got a lot of reactions out of gaming gladiators gladiator still gotta kill for
lead remains the same though now you have greaves and pipe on ace
how's that level two old russia looking for solo play
okay out running the nova there from the crystal beta
as a result he'll be able to stay ahead rest of the game train
yeah this spells will be nice this game for some of the bait and dazzle gunk.
Still going to have contend with the BKBs here. I think if you get BKB up on...
At least the Alchemist, if you have it on alex and the dazzle that is
that's a pretty terrifying point in the game for liquid as you do not have a lot of punches through that it's supposed to be your troll with some Staff Fire, Minus Armor
or Sand King outlasting the BKBs
but in terms of damage getting pumped
into these heroes it's just not going to be there
and their motion is pretty slow
this is why they didn't do it earlier, I mean,
this does not feel great to
you in this fashion, but
you don't have a choice? It's a little bit okay
just because Liquid is not taking the most
advantage of the map. Nisha cut his split pushing early,
he did Tormentor during this time,
the only thing that's really happening elsewhere on
the map is that Mikkei
is farming top.
If you got like a Wisdom Rune Steel there or something,
you'd be a lot happier for that.
Yeah, or Taken Mid Tower
or something, but...
Another round of Aura items
on the table for Ace.
The Aura Master.
Hype, Greaves, Shiva's up next.
Sania is cutting over. Does have St Storm, so they can have a go at Tofu if they want.
Lightbeard is certainly going to make things a lot easier for this Static Storm to be effective.
BKBs are done.
Pretty much here for the Alch, but he has Aegis
so I don't think Thrasho cares.
Important one for the Dazzle is completed.
So you already have ability to you know force high ground force
liquid back if you really want to commit to a lane here i don't think your committee for
racks or anything but you can control show some force. Still have a ward
in the enemy base.
You don't really have initiators though, so I don't know if you can
do anything with it.
They're going to present here.
Their initiation is Dorachio.
Missed that Explore. That is costly.
Just walking into the base.
Spurrow Strike does mean to get out the Unstable Concoction.
Pulled the Creep Wave
back. They're going to use the glyph early here.
Deal with the wave.
Yeah, they don't have
another one.
Gladiators backing.
Gladiators will switch
over to tier two mid.
Control top,
Ember bottom,
both side lanes
being farmed and cut right now
your last wave on the map is whatever coming in mid right now
and again you don't want to try and catch these heroes if you're gaming because your catch is
pretty limited so liquid are getting more out of the map
while this group up's happening.
We need some tier twos
to make up for it
with some big core items.
But in order
to rectify that,
just go high ground again
see if you can get these heroes that are on the map on liquid to back
up oh boy that's annoying sandstorm forced to stand underneath it
the field blocks them off, but
Machu
says okay we're just going to commit more.
We keep hitting this tier 3.
Chemical Rage, halfway through.
Trying to wear it through here, maybe look for a glimpse or something.
Backdoor will come up?
Action comes up for second, another wave coming in soon though. it goes falls back down
liquid are really just giving this one up huh range barracks
don't look for a glimpse yeah uh ace is pretty far forward here
can't go for doratu, he's got BKB Aegis.
And
Nisha is finally here to start cutting
waves but it may end up being too late. Oh they're
going to go for it! Kisses and the Gliteneer from behind!
A glimpse back onto the Crystal Maiden
They want to easy kill here
Epicenter, Static Storm, Polk being used
as the Brewmaster tries to come back in
Man, even a Crystal Maiden is not dying easy
And this Bloodstone is keeping the Sand King alive for now
but eventually he's going to have to throw a strike back.
Dorachio just keeps pushing forward with another round
and Sablecrown Cogsht lands on three.
More damage from the Dazzle Pops
as it gets rid of the collect here and backs away
he's slowed down a bit but he still has the ages in plenty of time
as he gets looked back into the tier four with the fence there
still not enough they have more heels and more shallow grades where that's going from gotta
pull somebody back here try to catch nisha not getting him insania glimpse, Glimpse coming
up. They go for Quinn. Got
them on the other side of the fence!
Liquid can't really commit. They've already
used so much Blightnear. They just keep on
keeping heroes here but can they get their damage out to finish Mothnisha?
He's gonna go for it.
Queen is low!
Got off the Shallow Grave
and he hops away
on the Ember Spirit.
Now looks like King of Gladiators
finally free as The Glimpse
right before he gets out of vision.
Haste didn't go too far though, Game and Gladiators will be able to retreat without a loss.
Technically no network game for Gameiman on this entire push,
which is kind of ridiculous.
As the side lanes got farmed out,
I don't think Liquid are too happy about the outcome.
Didn't really get a big turnaround they were looking
for. Still didn't burn through this Aegis, and the biggest component
of all that we did not see
is the Troll's TP got cancelled by
the heals on the Weaver way
across the map so Mikke had to run
the entire map to go Fountain to heal and then turn to that fight
You're just missing your troll for all of that sequence
Miserable situation for Liquid
Trying to make the most of it
And he's daring them to commit he's got primal splits so by all means mickey if you want it you can have it they wanted on the queen yeah they wanted to dazzle. Quinn's BKB is about to wear thin, but Nisha is too low.
He can't really keep committing.
Jirachio meanwhile, Cookie is not going to be able
to get Boxy back up to the high ground
so Jiraccio will feast on another support.
Up to the highground! Oh!
Topu managed a run down Nisha there! That's the biggest
kill. Completely opens
up this lane now. Liquid
can just not bring a target
down that 25 minute push
way too much sustain behind it
EKB timings are hit, I mean this is where Alchemist
is a terrifying
carry hero
Just don't have the damage right now you need more time
if your liquid and're running out of it
our only saving grace at this point is going to be the fact they still have a tier two
up in the top lane which they are not stopping this just can Just can't commit to the fight
Don't think we've seen a trolled
We haven't really seen
This epicenter get put
To amazing use
At some point you just have
To bite the bullet and
Take the risk full commit to this invite and see what happens here if your liquid
they're just continuing to bleed buildings lead a lead
and i think a lot of it were all around finding the dazzle which your tools are limited to do
so especially into the dazzled bkb which you can't you don't have hexes or anything
to prevent this going off as nisha was trying to dodge out the poison damage.
But he can only do it for so long.
AC done, that is
not a sight
you want to see here if your Micke
is already struggling to put the the damage in yeah he can't
do any damage man and not to mention the minus armor is really stacking for game you have acid
spray you have ac you have swarm going through and then you have this dazzle pumping out a bunch
of minus armor on top all that and you're doing physical with a bunch of these spells
you just don't have the armor i mean you have shivas on the sand king
that's it and it i feel like
it disappears within the first five seconds of the fight we've seen the same king he's not able to
sit up in the front lines he's been hiding behind his sandstorm most of the time.
Not even waiting for second Roshan, which I feel like is free for gaming gladiators
They're gonna try and end the game
A Radiance is picked up by Nisha. These long, drawn-out teamfights...
They need a Radiance of their own. Pull back onto Ratio...
Ratio really trying not to use his BKB here but eventually he's forced into it
by the KISS that comes in.
Now Mitka has to retreat.
He gets a bit low.
Got that out of him.
Now they can work for the Gloomz pickoff.
Just need to be able to keep the heroes
in range.
Man, just sitting on Magic Resist right now.
The Vlad's coming together for tofu they are really putting the final touches on this lineup to end the game i think though maybe that push has deterred Gaming Gladiators from going high ground without the Aegis, which will give Liquid the chance and choice.
Do they play for the Roshan Pit or do they play for the roshan pit or do
they play for the high ground
feels like you have to play to try and contest roshan but
the fight is much easier on high ground for the Disruptor anyway.
I suppose the Sand King as well.
You have very limited
targets you can go on if you're Liquid.
You can't go in the Dazzle with BKB and burst him to
zero, you can't go on this Brew.
He has 87% magic resist when he is brewed up.
Pretty sick, you can't really go
on the alchemist as you've only
really seen them either with Aegis or BKB off cooldown.
Your chainstone potential is pretty limited...
Yeah, I don't see a way they're ever able to pick somebody off.
Feels like BKB or Shallow Grave, it's always going to go up.
So...
Yeah normally I'd say like okay they're gonna push high ground you smoke around
your flank go on the supports going to dazzle in
the back end just throw all of your aoe on them
there's something that could be there that's maybe still your best bet if
you're liquid but that push is going to happen really fast
your chance to seize it sees that moment is going to be extremely limited here and i don't
think you're ever contesting this rojan this is gonna be a gis for Dorachio and a banner to help you push that last lane
they're not going to try and contest it this is a very bold move you do have the
blink on the sand kick? It's so good.
He's going to break the smoke, they push
out trying to fly Burrow Shrike to catch him
because they're not getting to the Roshan
pit anymore. They wanted at least to get a
pick off for it. They failed to find it, in fact Tofu's getting some information now
they drop Ward Sentry
Got Bug on two
Does get taxed by the Burrow Strike but
It's super awkward
And now they're being split up on the side of Liquid and 33,
he pops Bloodstone trying to stay alive!
Gets off the epicenter,
but it can't heal him enough.
Vickay is going straight to Quinn.
This doesn't look good at all.
He's got a TKB and he's hitting them,
but the Shallow Grave is eventually gonna come out
from Quinn and Mikkei's gonna run out.
Static Torque gets thrown up
The BTV was still up so the Shallow Grave goes through
And Mikkei does eventually manage to kill Twin. He's still up to the shallow break, goes through and
MidGate does eventually manage to kill him.
He's actually fighting through this one!
He almost kills Durachio as well
That was actually kind of impressive but
it's still Gamer Gladiators obviously winning the fight.
Just Liquid got more out of it than probably expected.
I'm surprised.
It looked like it was almost going to work there.
But you are a day late and $1 short if you are liquid the sand king going down to
start that fight getting split on the wrong direction is just the best sentence
and the bkbs continue to play liquid here as they didn't have time to wear them down
you're just dealing with big durations here your last lane
completely open at 35 seconds where the troll is dead so they could just
What's this the last lane and?
33 he's gonna have to throw his life in there to try and slow it down will the bloodstone keep alive
doing damage orchid will be the death of them is that 90 percent magic or just brew you just don't do anything
yep he pops the pipe he screwed, he doesn't take any damage.
You're not life stealing anything.
Gaming gladiators will achieve megas
and look to finish off an extremely 2-0
finish against Liquid
through the upper bracket final.
This could be their fastest
and cleanest run to a grand final
in a while, at least through the upper bracket bit.
Got a silence onto the ember,
give him a cookie to hop away.
15 seconds until the San
Kings back up. Nick Day fighting for his
life out here. BKB makes a run back to the fountain,
will be able to make it but The Throne
is not going
to make it this way. Static Storm goes out
Isha does manage to slight low HP
jumps from his remnant hit by Eul's. He's gonna come back
down into an Orc and end kill.
Don't have a buyback.
Mikkei, her trip back to the
fountain once again. Quinn being chased by Kisses.
A buyback from Nisha. not able to run down Quinn.
So Quinn's going to come back in soon
to help out the Brewmaster who is all-consuming.
The attention Liquid paying to him
and he is just running off the damage. Three seconds
till the primals play back on.
Nikkei pops the ultimate, gets pushed back by
the psychic headband. Back to hitting
the brew who doesn't care about
you. It tickles him. he is ignoring you the entire way.
Nikkei a fourth trip back to Fountain33 playing around in his Sandstorm Primal Split
still ready to go they do manage to catch Quinn here but Michelle Grave of course will keep them alive
and they throw bodies after
bodies into gaming gladiators and come up with nothing! Just a dominating series from Gaiman
here. There's parts you wonder if Liquid have learned anything playing against
this team over the course of this year as Gaiman
has struggled, but it appears this matchup
is maybe more
one-sided than it has been in their recent
meetings. As Gaiman engines pull out everything here,
they had the laning victories
in Game 1.
They have the out rotation.
They have the lane cheese
and lane 2.
They have the sustained push lineup
with an invincible timing
at that 25-minute mark.
They have cores that Liquid are not even remotely close
to touching at that point in the game.
Their lineup was very fragile,
got off to a slow start
and then lacked BKB piercees
to deal with Alchemist's window.
And man,
I think they talked about
this Blue Master
versus Sand King matchup
in terms of there are
instances about the Blue Master
that really mess with
what Sand King wants to do
in the fight.
I think this game showed that more than
anything. Ace was absolutely
invincible on that front line, with the
boot-up magic as if for San King. And then
when the troll goes on him, he switches to the wind
stance. 90% evasion. Mik adele's nothing to him 33 is back
on them 90 magic resist good luck there's just no answer for the blue master in this game and
ace had a terrific lane phase gaming firing on all cylinders here as well.
They will be the first team in that grand final.
They will indeed they do it off of dominating lanes
as they have done so many times in this tournament
And Liquid who thought they were prepared
to be able to deal with it,
were clearly not.
It's back to the drawing board for them.
But they may not even get the chance
at a rematch against Gaming Gladiators
since they are going to have to play
the lower bracket final if they want to have to play the lower bracket final
if they want to have a chance at redemption.
Meanwhile, Gaming Gladiators look better than ever heading
into the grand finals.
We're heading to the main stage with Tofu and Shigami.
Thank you very much, I am joined by Tofu of Game & Gladiators who has now secured
Grand Finals! A minimum of second place
and a minimum of 800 thousand USD FINALS, A MINIMUM OF SECOND PLACE AND A MINIMUM OF 800,000
USD. CONGRATULATIONS! BUT I HAVE TO KNOW ABOUT HOW YOU'VE
RETURNED BACK TO THIS BECAUSE GAMING GLADIATORS HAS HAD A
ROCKY 2024 SO FAR. BUT SO FAR IT SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE gladiators has had a rocky 2024 so far but so far it seems like you guys are running returning back
to prominence. So is it what everyone else is attributing it to that? It's the meta, it's the patch
You guys are playing fast and so good or can you tell there's a different energy within your team
over these past two-and-a-half weeks?
It's actually hard to put into words, I think
There is a lot of factors coming into play from knowing each other for so long
From grinding for so long, grinding for so long and also having the success
where you eventually just decline motivational factors
but then also small things within the team
like people individually
like how hard do you train, how hard do you want it. Other people
they are playing more eager to win whereas
we already had the satisfaction of a win. I think we had a really rough
season overall and like a lot of things
to relearn and improve
and just things that set
us back overall but I think we kept
learning steadily and just like going with it i wouldn't say that necessarily
dispatches our thing now. I think we've always been good at playing together buying auras
and taking fights well which kind of favors us a little bit right now.
But then also just general things from,
I think we're in a really good mood, great atmosphere
We are having a good time together and like
we don't choke on the stage. We're confident to play,
we just want to show what we've been training for and we're back.
I'm happy to hear it
and you're showing it but it's encouraging to hear that these processes of the losses earlier in the year
didn't break you guys down and if it did then you've rebuilt stronger than ever
that all these experiences that you've shared with these guys
of the challenges.
It seems to have just made things stronger for you.
In a way we also get to know each other like really well
because we spend a lot of time together and it can be
things when someone has a bad game
and tees down or someone puts blame on
someone, like I feel like
we're out of that. Like people just have
a bad day they have a bad game or whatever
and we just build each other up and And you also know like people's habits
if I wake up late, then like I show up to breakfast like people know like okay
give him some time it's all good. Well whatever it is you seem
to be making magic happen right now Tofu tofu and now that you've secured your place
in grand finals the best of five tundra falcons or liquid any preference between the three
i honestly don't really care
because you're gonna beat him no matter what tofu welcome back to grand finals
welcome back game and gladiators to grand finals
congratulations on the win and we'll send it back to the studio
gaming gladiators back to the grand finals has been
uh has been a little while of course we saw them at ti
and online they've been at a grand finals as well but it is uh
it has been a while and it's it's just such a dominated series here
if this was not close unfortunately it was not not and even from the end of that drafting phase that Dazzle
coming out posed so many problems for Liquid they just did not have the capacity within their
draft to deal with it. It countered Ember super hard,
and made it so that Liquid's ports had
to rotate very early on to mid
and kind of stack their side lanes
And then you see the side lanes completely popping off
Alchemist was just a unit
that nobody could cross The Brewist was just a unit that nobody could cross.
The Brewmaster was just unkillable,
his Bruleings got full duration off it,
disrupted all of their spells and the sieges were so easy.
When they went high ground there was literally nothing
Liquid could do to stop the high ground
push. I mean, we just saw them hit rocks
with no engagements,
nothing. They tried their best.
Nisha was cutting waves.
They were throwing spells
into pipe
greaves. It just wasn't
doing anything and I really do agree
that it all goes back to the Dazzle pick
We were theorycrafting OD because
and honestly
Liquid was also looking at what is
going to hard counter this Ember mid.
They banned the SF, they banned the Huskar
but Dazzle just is not really on anybody's radar. And it paired
so nicely with the rest of the heroes where
they could group up. It countered the Troll as
well. Minus Armor. Minus Armor
with the Alch and against the Troll.
That was just a flawless Assault pick, honestly
there's nothing that they could do
Yeah it is very rare
that we see a pick
that's perfect for the lane
and perfect for the game
At the end of the day
wasn't the most exciting series
probably one of the least
exciting series but Dota
There are a lot of cool highlights
Black Holes, Echo Slams, but it's also very strategic
game and gaming just it's incredible to kind of everyone knows
what they're going to do conceptually, but they've just whipped
out time and time again this this tournament with different heroes,
different strategies of doing or different ways of pulling off the same strategy.
And you have to admire the fact that the best teams in the world can't figure this out.
No. And you to also admire me.
Our previous series was very exciting
but we heard from both sides
that mistakes were made
on both sides
and that makes it exciting
and a little bit of
mistakes here
that someone plays off of
and all the way around
goes as well
but if a team just makes
the least amount of mistakes possible then you are going to end up with a game like this so
gaming gladiators they crushed it we do have a couple highlights still
to take you through and i believeie, the first one is yours.
It's already pretty late in the game.
This one is actually 24 minutes in.
Yeah, they're just pushing
the rocks here. They took their range
ones absolutely no contest.
If they go back in for this melee, then they decide to disengage just to be safe.
Mortimer's Kisses comes out
into the glimpse pack and normally you think wow
glimpse pack into Mortimer we're going to kill somebody
they cast all their spells but nothing really came out of it
look cm gets braved by the nozzle at the very end alchemist is just going how in the sand king
it just feels so hopeless for liquid at this point because the spell casting is there, but
There's nothing they can do.
I got a question
How do we feel about the kinetic fence?
I just want to put the cards on the table right now
What do you guys think about this?
We saw it once continue we saw work ones right you place a fence he's like can't go through defense i gotta go around oh no here's
another offense and you know know it caused some confusion
I don't know if they did in the field though.
I point out that fight was 5v4
like tofu at TP top
Like literally when that fight started
That's why Liquid Took the fight
Ideal conditions
For Liquid
But nothing can be done
On your question
Toos
I prefer
The field
Personally
But maybe we just
Haven't seen enough
Of defense
We saw Insania
Doing cool stuff Like cut off ramps
where they couldn't go on ramps, so there's
definitely room for it there but
I think also having the Thunderstrike in the
Static Field is extra damage and
it's more valuable. Yeah. yeah probably before you give your opinion we
also have a highlight of you maybe we'll see the kinetic fence come into play
yes we will as it's going to be a fight right in the same spot because it's always just gaming
kind of ramming their heads into the Liquid
base as Liquid is actually going to push back
this one time where Trolls got the axe.
He's finally got his BKB or he doesn't even have
his BKB yet, excuse me, but you're thinking okay
we can purge the Solar Crest. We can purge these other like debuffs on us, but you're thinking, okay, we can purge the solar crest. We can purge these other debuffs
on us, but here's what basically happens.
You chase far enough. This is why you can see
that Liquid was basically doing nothing in terms
of letting Gaiman just
hit the buildings because the first time they actually step out of the base,
the first time they try to fight their way into
Gaiman head on. Eventually
the sustain becomes too much. You see
the only hero that ever gets low on the side of
Gaiman is Dazzle. That's pretty much the story
of every single fight that's because they had to focus him,
anybody else who's getting focused
is just getting graved and healed consistently.
It's depressing to think
that like all of Gaiman's just 95% HP at the end of a 30 second long fight.
Yeah, and then they gotta play to win right?
You've got to make these plays
Team Liquid is trying to make a play with their last highlight
They tried to contest the Roshan?
I think that's the idea, actually.
Yeah, you want to take this one, Jenkins?
Do you want me to talk about it?
Yeah, I can take this one.
Well of course, Mikke was really trying his best here
jumping onto Dowsel in the backline
which I think is the play that he needs to make
because otherwise the Grave's gonna come out
and multiple Graves are going to come out
but the issue is
this also splits up the Liquid backline which means that the sand king and a sapphire on the side
do end up going down, and yeah he gets to dazzle but for what?
And we also just saw the grave into static storm again i mean it was
it's so difficult to play versus these save heroes like dazzling oracle when
you're super far behind but when it also counters
another hero's ultimate that It's pretty tough shoes.
It was a very tough game for Team Liquid,
but then all the credit goes to Gaming Gladiators
and for our PlayStation MVP we did have a couple of choices
it's like in a game
like that is hard to really pick one person
that really stood out.
But this time around, our PlayStation MVP
goes the way of the Racho who gets thrown
the alchemist that he's ready to play whatever
he needs to and he delivered that game as well.
Hello Derecho! Thank you for joining us!
Look it's you on the screen!
Why me MVP?
I get surprised.
Because I heard that you wanted a PS5.
Oh yeah.
You want a PS5?
The second one...
Yeah, why not?
The second one.
I already gave you one?
No, I already have one. I bought it myself.
Second one is okay.
What's your favorite game on the PlayStation 5?
Spiderman, the last one.
I completed it 100%.
It's really...I love this game.
Did you play the previous one as well?
No. I mean, I bought it and tried to play this gamepad on PC but I just dropped it.
You gotta play it on PlayStation. It's fun.
Maybe.
You should! You got some time, you know?
Not yet, not yet.
I'm going to do it right now.
There's a moment.
No, congratulations on the series.
Thank you so much.
I have to ask this game...
This series was very one-sided.
Yeah.
You know why?
Why?
Because we have ours,
they don't have ours.
That's right.
And also,
I think V lane,
all three lanes really good.
Like mid,
Quinn died a couple of times, times whatever but both sidelines is really going like going really well for us especially first game this beastmaster is no
game and my age is free to get ganked, and that's what we did.
And it works out really well.
Yeah but did you expect it going into the series?
Yeah.
I mean, I expected to go our safe lane like this
because we scrimmed them a lot
and I hate this team,
cause they all love doing these
pull, pull, pull, pull,
break the lane.
Bro,
I know what you're gonna do.
I'm going to chase you forever
and I'm going to kill these Nicks.
I'm not going to let them
pull the wave.
My soup can farm I don't care I'm just gonna let them pull the wave. My soup can farm, I don't care,
I just wanna chase them and that's what happens.
It worked out!
Yeah, Celery went through the portal on him.
Minutes 5, yeah.
You're completely free farming.
How does that feel as an Ursa bear?
Feels pretty good, yeah.
I'm free farming.
I want to kill them but they are not really coming into my lane
so I just hit creeps.
That's hard for you.
It's really hard for me.
For me it is really hard.
I have to control myself.
I really want to tip and kill them.
But it's free farming.
Blitz called Quinn dishonorable in the pre-game interview because of the Dazzle pick, man.
What do you think about that? Do you think your teammate is a dishonorable player?
I don't know what this word means.
Like he's a bad guy for last picking dazzle and just to be honest they
also did it to us they also did the same they let speak dazzle against us in some tournament
and they smash us because we cannot kill them i remember i played bristol against brew
and dazzle and i'm just i'm always flying in the air because of the Brew.
We also land against Brew-Io,
like I give them infinity mana and infinity HP
and they smack us with Last Pick Dazz, so I don't think it's fair.
So you say Blitz is a hypocrite?
Can you look into that camera
and say Blitz William Lee is a hypocrite?
Who?
Blitz William Lee is a hypocrite.
Hypocrite? Yeah a hypocrite. Hypocrite?
Yeah, hypocrite.
Blitz William Lee is a hypocrite.
I have one more final thing.
Do we have the...
Yeah, we do have the clip ready.
If you could look at that screen is easier for you.
Okay, let's go look at the screen here.
Let's get the replay going.
So this is
honest.
I expect them to fight me and kill me here.
Yeah, and I was ready for it. Right? Right. I also kill me here. And I was ready for it!
I also put the stun, yeah I was ready to D-word
I noticed that you pressed the stun
when you were in the fountain
This happens, at least I used my sentry
spray but I expected them to be here,
And I thought they're gonna fight me
And I can kill them.
Right.
The spray is very important.
Yeah you played perfectly.
I think some of them are dead or like
We didn't lose anything from it
Or I only tipped base
And then I ran to the medium camp and
double star like double socket and farm and it's not bad for me yeah I just
didn't die the second time but I was expecting me to fight until they're
deaf that sounds so I was looking at your guys That sounds like a very drastic way to say it.
Yeah, that makes sense.
So I was looking at you guys' Wikipedia and you guys have been a team for about two and a half years.
It's like a really long time for you guys to stick together.
Like what do you think is so...
What allows you guys to play through such a stressful game
like Dota,
many patches,
many years
and be able to maintain
such a close-knit
that Tofu was talking about.
You guys know each other's habits.
You're good friends
all the time.
Like while we were playing for so long time?
I think because we like everyone.
We like how we are working together and the way
we're talking with everyone.
If you don't like something, you can straight up tell it.
Because also remember during the Falcon games,
we almost had a fight in the first game
because it's really cold and Celery is saying
It's really cold for me!
I'm shaking, I cannot play last five minutes
And then Tofu was saying it's not cool for me
and then
you know what can happen.
That's when I'm really
heated up, yeah?
And this game
is also stressful
so I think everyone
is already used
to each other and we understand
everyone, like each other in our team.
So yeah, that's why they're playing for too long
And we know how to fix conflicts.
I think
That seems important because it's really awesome
to watch you guys come back from a loss i feel like i'm also
happy i'm all set up hope we're gonna win how do you feel in this upcoming grand finals versus
all the other ground finals you've been in confident i'm confident i also think if Falcons are going to beat Todorov, they might be in the finals tomorrow and I hope we're not gonna lose to them like in the previous GYM League so I hope you're gonna be ready.
Because there's three teams left remaining,
do you think it will be Falcons over Tundra?
If they beat tomorrow...
if they beat today Tundra so yeah
but actually I think
it's a 50-50 game.
Also the previous match for Falcons I thought they were going to lose it
but Quest, like I think they are stressed during
their late game and they just throw it
But from my perspective
They might win this game.
They have a Gigafarm Brute...
Like, they cannot do anything!
Also I got surprised Keter is not buying BQB until the end of the game
He's- I think he didn't buy it
So I thought that they're gonna lose because of it
They came very close
That was a very back score for Sirius.
Yeah, this is spicy.
It was! So you guys' series was one-sided.
Pretty chill yeah, cause we have ours as I said.
Well congratulations on making it to the Grand Finals and
on being our PlayStation MVP.
Really? I really receive it?
No, no!
But the MVP is called the PlayStation MVP, so...
Okay.
We missed that, dude!
I thought I'm gonna get a second one.
I'll get you a PlayStation 2 as I sound no
Expensive
I'm sure it is. Thank you so much. Yes, we're gonna let you have a good night
We'll see you again for tomorrow thank you cheers for us bye
see you tomorrow and we're going to take a look at the brackets as we now know our first team in
the grand finals tomorrow gaming gladiators they do it again.
They look like they are on top of their game.
It seems like maybe Falcons in their head would give them a spicy grand finals,
but he seems very confident for For the upcoming series though,
it doesn't seem that confidence.
Effie 50-50 Tundra Team Falcons.
Yeah I think Tundra are a team right now
that can always bust out something
that you don't think will work against you,
but it does.
Like the mid Rubik from yesterday
they have a lot of ideas that worked for them
But in Falcons
They had a really, really exciting series earlier.
I think that definitely got them warmed up
and itching to play and prove themselves
So this one,
I will give the edge to Falcons because of that
We're going to find out
what's best of three between Tundra and Falcons
and making it to the final day here at Rehab Masters which team will prevail? You'll have
to wait and find out! We'll be back after a break.
Go, go, go!
Snap, snap, snap! Troll, troll.
Hitting once? Can you hit him here?
I could.
I get it bro.
This guy is gonna have some extra braces and extra region um so.
. so so so so Ready, set, go! ready set go so the foreign foreign We used to think of it as a mother, friend and friends
But we saw a world no one else sees
A big world that lived in us I'm not sure if it's going to be a good thing. really so.. so oh
just walk with me, dude. Uh...
Don't do that!
Don't do what?
You were a professional at TI- which TI was it?
Professional what?
Talent!
Oh, 7.
Oh yeah cause you were a player...
I guess we started the interview by the way.
Oh yes we did.
Hello.
But you're professional talent first before your professional
player at TI right?
I suppose that is technically true.
Why won't you go outside with me?
Because it's hot, and I like not being hot.
Can you sing the electricity by that one guy who was at every Dream League?
No, I can't.
It's overplayed.
What about Welcome to the Black Parade by My Chemical Romance?
It's not Karaoke Night either.
Could you sing that song if we were doing Karaoke Night?
Theoretically sure.
What's your favorite song to do on Karaoke Night?
Grrrr! What's your favorite song to do on karaoke night?
We'll say Muggle of the Black Parade. Don't do weird noises with your mouth, it's gonna have to get cut because it does things to the microphone.
You're not a professional sorry okay sing welcome to the black parade with me
i'm not singing when i was a young boy nice what happened when you were a young boy?
Don't...
My father took me into the city.
What did you see?
A marching band.
Okay.
Sing it, dude!
No!
It's for content!
I don't care about content. this has been an interview with quinn
that's been quite thought provoking provoked my thoughts and um back to you where is your team
later the other guys there, like threat.
Okay I'll go harass them. Thank you.
Tofu, Seller whoever that was.
This is Jenkins Dota and I am here behind the scenes at
Esports World Cup.
So to Riyadh Monsters and we're going
to go check out gaming gladiators,
the best team in the world.
So sorry, best team in the world.
Can I show you some videos and get your reaction to them?
Uh... okay. That's good, okay so
this one is a TikTok song
Do you know TikTok?
Yeah
It's a cute vibe
Can you not interrupt the video?
Sorry bro I just thought you wanted me to talk It's a cute vibe. Can you not interrupt the video? Okay, sorry bro.
I just thought you wanted me to talk since it's in my frame.
No, no, it's kidding.
I'm just trying to watch.
Why is there mic here if we're not supposed to talk?
That's a 45 second clip of that,
it's 10 minutes long though.
I'll send you... Can I get your Discord?
You gonna spam me?
I might send you an invite to
a Counter-Strike tournament.
Okay, then I'm pretty good at Counter-Strike.
You need to win free Arcanas.
Yeah that's good. Do you like TikTok?
Nah it's a bit too tongue-. Don't have time for that.
Do you try to stay off of social media because it's like a waste of time?
Exactly.
I think playing Dota might be worse than going on TikTok.
Ladies and gentlemen, this has been JenkinsDota
in behind the scenes with GameGladiers and with...
Thanks for checking us out.
Yeah, we're doing an interview now I guess.
Okay. He just turned it on dude, he's following me turning it on.
You got any questions for me or should i ask you something
you can ask me questions what is your outfit today
i'm going for like a they might censor this because of uh
of um copyright but criminal minds you know the guy from criminal mines
yeah which one do you don't know Criminal Minds, you know the guy from Criminal Minds? Yeah.
Which one?
You don't know Criminal Minds?
I don't know.
Do you do that normally where somebody brings up a thing and you just want to continue the conversation
so they say you know the thing just so they continue
but then they ask about it
and then you're like
I shouldn't have committed to that. No not really if I don't know it I'll ask ask about it and then you're like, I shouldn't have committed to that. No not really if
I don't know it all like as more about it
because you okay so you're
how like high-risk is somebody asked me about Shrek the other
day and I didn't know what it was and they bring up this
character. It's apparently a donkey in it you don't know strict
Not personally
Well, I do he's not written even though the movie
You know strict personally I do yeah, I think that's Mike Myers.
Yeah?
Which was also a killer in...
I don't know Mike Myers though.
In Halloween.
I don't know Mike Myers.
You know Shrek personally.
I only know Shrek personally.
Why are you slowly moving away from me?
I don't know man, it's getting weird.
I guess someone switched with me?
Do you have any questions or is just like me pouring my feelings out? Can someone switch with me?
Do you have any question or it's just like, me pouring my feelings out.
Do you write poetry?
You look like the type of guy that writes poetry.
Not recently no and probably also not before then
No I haven't really gotten into it at all actually And probably also not before that, no.
I haven't really gotten into it at all actually.
That's a really good response!
That's like very you response.
Yes.
What is the most heartbreak
that you've ever felt in your life
it's deep real quick i guess um not sure bro how to come up with that stuff on the spot. We are so lucky to have Jenkins filling in the break with all of that content.
They're talking about heartbreakbreak one of these two teams
is definitely going to be having their hearts broken after this series as we are on the verge
of elimination for either tundra or Falcon right now.
These two teams, they've made it to the top four.
That's fantastic.
But thanks to Jamil Motorsports,
they're coming into the arena
for potentially their last time.
It's going to be a best of three
so there's obviously a lot of room to learn, a lot of room to grow and to
help me along that journey is some of my new panelists as well. We've got Fia
standing next to me how excited are you to see
one of these two teams going home today?
Very excited.
For the team's going home, but it should be a very good match I think both these teams have
A very different path of getting where they are here
And Falcons, they're showing they're not
invincible already going to the three game series quest losing the game in the three games as well
so very curious to see if they've kind of like hit their peak or if
they have a lot more to show. And then Lacoste as well joining
we're going to give some of his thoughts here. Yeah, a lot
to see tears on stage, lots of keys being crushed losers
interviews jokes aside you know it's all about the good feelings
and your playing Dota and that's what I've seen from Tundra especially when
they're winning this is a team that you know they can sit and we heard some of
their comms yesterday but it was pretty clear
and that they're having a lot
of fun. You mentioned Ramsey's.
He's the one being the voice of the team.
Same goes for Dirk. They have a lot of different
voices, but the comms are clear, and that's what
I want to see coming into the series because they're
going to need pretty much every cylinder possible to beat Falcons.
I'm feeling the nerves when I'm watching these teams play, like they're making uncharacteristic
mistakes and that's because there's a lot on the line.
And you can see it's all about who triumphs through these hardships,
who is able to lose that game too. A lot of these series are going to best-of three
and we've seen like the reverse two game series or sweeps.
We've been seeing like the teams bounce back in Game 3.
Like, let's ignore that last series, right?
Like pretty much all these lower bracket series have gone to three games
and like Tundra, they lost Game 1 yesterday.
They were backs against the wall and like Falcons just now,
they were literally back against the wall 60-minute
game of Game 3.
And it's like you mentioned fear different paths to get here
but at the same time I feel there has been so much chaos
for all these teams and
none of these wins are exactly smooth.
So it's going to come down to who can level themselves
ground themselves
coming into such a pivotal series.
And I'm also curious to see if the three of you
will have different takes or different viewpoints
on Tundra's drafts, because yesterday,
you kind of described some of them as uninspiring.
And yes, they still won those things.
They still won with it.
What does that really say?
I know this is a team
that can draft very differently
but they're showing
they can make it work.
Yeah well look
It's been 24 hours roughly
give or take
a little bit less than that
since we've actually seen Tundra
so they have
a slight advantage they've been able to reset and let's catch up with one of
their players encourage to see where the reset is going to happen for them
hey there i'm here with r Ramzes of Team Tundra.
You guys had a really close series yesterday against BBTeam.
It felt like anybody could win that one so what was the game like for you?
Hey! Yeah, yesterday was hard day.
First game was really rough for us because we didn't have good draft against any mid-draft, but we just refreshed after the first game.
Just win and have a good comeback in second game.
And last game was super easy.
After draft they cannot win I think. Last game was super easy.
After drafts, they cannot win I think.
Didn't you have a long third game or am I mistaken for a different team?
Am I wrong?
I must be wrong.
It's probably against Liquid.
Okay yeah right think I'm confused
They play against BadBomb
Yes that's right
So your teammate had some all chat
Is there any beef going on or is that just
for fun
uh you should ask fear i don't know
we got friends with bed boom
i like i love these guys everyone x
yeah how do you think your upcoming series is going to go?
We're gonna show our best daughter, we're gonna try hard and see what's gonna happen.
Okay so you sound less cocky than Pura did in his interview yeah probably I just want to
show the best daughter I don't know who you're gonna be win but
yeah okay great well thank you for joining me for the interview thank you
i'm not sure if it's a learning lesson after how confident is how i'm going to say they
came into their upper bracket series against Liquid
just to get pushed down here into the lower bracket,
or if they really are a little bit worried
because right now it feels like
Southens is a little bit of an unknown entity
you've already talked about it for yourself that
uncharacteristic actually i think those eulacoste uncharacteristic mistakes
where is this coming from why are they falling what feels like a little bit short than all
of our expectations at this moment and
how is tundra going to be able to capitalize on top of that i don't think
this team is as cheesy they're one of the few teams
that did not play this sven as a position five so
they have a bit of a different draft mentality.
They're still playing their own.
Like if you remove the team names
you would know which Falcons draft it is
like I would say 90% of the time
they are relatively predictable when
it comes to their heroes.
Same goes for Tundra.
I also liked that Ramesses is keeping things open.
He did burn some bridges in the past with certain themes.
So he's like yeah guys from bibbidi-bobbidi uh best friends they're
the coolest guys ever just in case you know he gets that pizza party for himself it's not best
yeah pretty much because he his hero pool didn't look as good coming in because he was playing this mark
like nine or ten times Dark Seer pretty much but he also showed yesterday that you can
play some other heroes when it's necessary to play Vengeful Spirit and had a lot of success with.
These players on Team Falcons
they've had a little bit of time to rest but
it was only the duration of our game in Gladiators
Liquid Upper Bracket Series which didn't go anywhere near
as long I think a lot of us would have hoped so
it's been a short turnaround time for all of them and let's catch up with purge and one of their
players i'm here with snake king of team fal. You guys had a match earlier today against Quest.
How did that series go for you?
It was a crazy tight series,
I think the stress levels was insanely high and I'm glad
that we ended up clutching it,
but it was very back and forth.
Yeah, it was. I mean, there were periods of the last game where
I was like oh man Quest is going to offset them
And then it went one way
and then it went the other way
So did you guys feel like in Game 3
Was that just who played better?
Kind of a thing. Who initiates the fight?
Things like that?
I think both teams made a lot of mistakes in
their third game but I think these things tend to
happen when in high stress situations.
So I think, you know they make mistake
we try to capitalize and push harder
but then we end up making a mistake
so it's just very back-and-forth
so I think that ultimately what happened is the team that made slightly less mistakes ended up winning.
So how important it is for just quality initiations
and Pro Dota right now feels like put a ward on high ground,
play near it, try to break their smokes?
It's like
a cat and mouse game that's going on right
i think that's definitely a big part of it i think having clean jumps
initiation is a key part of the game but i think at the same time you just
sit around award camping all game.
You're not going to get any farm because people will just split push you and farm
And it's like you have to find that correct balance of initiation
and farm on the map
That's like the difficulty
and then the delicate balance of it.
So how do you think you're going to fare for your drafts in
the upcoming series against Tundra?
They are a very strong team,
You guys are a strong team
or would you say your chances at winning are?
I think its gonna be to be very close here.
Similar to Quest, I would say maybe like 50-50
I think whoever is feeling a little bit better today
will end up winning
They're a very aggressive team
More of a 4 protect 1
but Pure is still pretty aggressive carry.
So it might not appear like that.
So we will need to be able
to defend ourselves against high aggressions
of Tundra while so keeping up our farm
and maybe looking for our own place.
Gotcha. Which facet did you get today?
Are you going to be all chatting?
I mean, you already know
I'm slapping the right one.
Okay, that sounds great.
Well, good luck in your match
and thanks for joining me.
Thank you.
Great to get some words there from Snake King.
He talked about the series earlier today up against PSG Quest, how game number three
that was a lot of stress it felt like the energy within
the team wasn't as calm
is what we've been led to believe in the past
on, on past land experiences with them.
Yep. Thanks, Dave.
You're looking at me and then I thought you were gonna
jump in.
I'm going to jump in here, I think right now
this team in particular, this Tundra
team they have a lot going for them and they're doing
it much better than I ever anticipated
they would do here and this is the final
hurdle for me to truly believe that this Tundra squad
is the real deal, right?
Because you can always look at Liquid, Gaming Gliders
Falcons. They're all accomplished in their own rights
but Tundra, this is a squad
back when they won TI TI completely different roster accomplished.
But with these guys this is the final hurdle for them
It is because I'm going to give
you some head-to-head stats between
these two teams or at least the old's
because I want to go all way back to Kualaa lumpur where tundra and falcons first went
up against each other and um that one was all in favor of falcon's and then they met again in dream
league season 23. that one a little bit more but and forth but still on the side of Falcons so we're
going to see exactly just how it's gonna play out between these two teams, but do you remember
the most recent time they faced off? All the way back at at birmingham no of course you don't so
they were in the upper bracket tundra knocked them down into best
of three and then they remet again in the lower bracket where falcons knock
them out so i'm wondering if history is going to repeat itself if that
is just the like destiny of tundra in the lower bracket or if they're gonna be able
to put up a fight but either way let's get our teams out into the stage and head on down to
get the arena.
It is time for the last match of the night. We just wrapped up our upper bracket finals,
and while it wasn't a key crushing,
there's definitely a spirit crushing of sorts
because Game & Gladiators
just destroyed Team Liquid
in that 2-0. Yeah
It is very rare to see Team Liquid
stay especially after Purge's
interview with Celery. I thought he was kidding the man said that they're
looking to end the game in 20 minutes and he almost actually did that these guys are serious
and in contrast meanwhile earlier today we have long three- series of Falcons versus PSG Quest edge of my seat the
entire time a long matches the whole way through. The Falcons were in Dublin with the day and I hope
that they've been spending
their time to recharge because
they are going to be coming back
to the Gadilla Arena
to face off against Tondra.
It's not gonna be an easy match for them either.
Tondra has been doing very well
for the tournament so far
going 11-3 on the group stage, heading
to the upper bracket but then losing
to Team Liquid into the lower bracket after
beating OG as well and now
they're two steps away from qualifying
to the grand final and facing gaming gladiators for this trophy
or bracket finals has a liquid awaiting eagerly and both these teams are looking
for an opportunity to face them so let's bring out the competitors
send for the first team that is walking on stage please welcome tondra esports Pure, Thompson, Bumsees, Nanklast and Whiteman.
I helped Pure crush BB's team last night
And that man was so good
He was a great player
He was the best
I'm not gonna lie I helped pure Crush BB's team last night and that man put so much anger into the press. He is looking for stage, it's Team Falcons!
Skinner, Maul Reen, ATF, Grint and Snake King are the last remaining Amina team.
They have to carry the torch for the region as three Western European teams
are hungrily staring them down.
Teams, take your seats and place your keys! I wonder which facets these teams chose.
Maybe it was victory, maybe it'll be a defeat.
We'll have to find out in the game.
We'll see you next time. so so Tundra Esports team Falcons.
They made it to the top four, but one of them is going
to go home at the end of this best-of-three.
The other one advancing on to top three and they're going to be playing tomorrow in our last day of Riyadh Masters at Esports World Cup.
It's been 3 weeks, a lot leading up to it but if you guys were to head over toCPLAY.GG and give us your prediction,
where exactly would you place it VSJ?
I'm gonna place it 2-1 Falcons.
I think Tundra's going to give them a game.
Okay.
I think Tundra has some staple heroes
even the pure DK we got whipped out twice yesterday for both their wins.
Both teams kind of have their signatures but I think at the end of the day Falcons
has been known for just really high skill execution and that's going to triumph
in these pretty chaotic, mistake-ridden series.
I mean we did see that earlier today
that game number three Snake King
described it pretty much exactly like
when they went up against DSG Quest
Game number 3 is where it went beforehand we'll see if it goes the distance again in this best of three our final series for the day but first let's start off with game number one and we got the draft coming up on our screens and let's see what matter has been forming
between these two teams. What's been happening over
the last few days Lacoste? Yeah this one doesn't
like I would not say surprising one but Timbersaw,
this is something that Falcons had a lot of success with.
It's one of Amar's best heroes as well other teams are not touching the
hero, but they're going to remove it in the first phase. A lot of times you would see them
also pick it up as last pick it seems like a really good
pick overall and falcons will remove the sven's hero that we did talk about uh that they play
exceptionally well with it pipe from the off lane sven position 5 with the war cry
they also banged out some really nice strats yesterday it was pretty much
four heroes buffing up dragon knight that was played by pure with the sidekick
with the solar crest and all these stuff.
Imagine Full Spirit, Aura...
So some new tech coming out from Tundra
And I want to see how they're going to end up their draft
I think there's a cool little back-and-forth in the ban phase
because Sven you mentioned Wacoss
like people are just picking the Warcry plus
Pipe and that's the strat. But what
Team Falcons did in their previous series
was pick Timbersaw against it. Why?
Because you have high physical damage reduction,
you have high magic resistance reduction, but you don't have pure damage reduction you have high magic resistance reduction but you don't
have pure damage reduction and so what you see is first kick ban
timber saw from tundra in response they banned sven knowing that that's their
answer if pure builds into damage reduction items is
that your damage reduction yes and i i have absolutely no response to that one lacoste
welcome back sir back to you fear well. Well, I mean, I really
like the fact that Tundra's banning here. The first
thing I was thinking about when you look at Tundra
One is her CK looks incredibly
good and the other one is... They're the only ones doing
this but they carry DK and the two heroes I thought
about that Amar plays that really shuts up down
is Doom and Tempersault. Those
are two incredibly good heroes
that can be played against that DK
carry which is a staple now for Pure. Already removed
from the pool so innately
just the hero pull of Amar
is kind of good against what Pure likes to play
right now, which is a little bit of an issue
but Tundra they will get the Monkey King on the first pick.
This is the most banned hero of the tournament.
Almost nobody's letting this one through so...
And we don't have information yet
because Tundra did not play the hero. It is flexed across three different roles
playing from position four.
I've seen 9-class
he enjoys playing this hero in the pubs
when you can be pretty much anywhere on
the map with the facet
you need to stay above 90% HP but it's also really good at a mid lane if
it's a good master for it great carry builds into flips and flops and
best item in the game of course. And it's also a setup
His shard has been improved
in the patch or the batch before that
which makes it really nice so you have a stun
an extra slow on top of that
and you can get out of trouble with it. Yeah, you mentioned building the flips and flops
I think that's very likely that is going to be
Thompson building the flips and flops as this guy was
one of the original pioneers of
Monkey King made before it was cool
And we've seen all types of builds,
I think what makes Monkey King a fascinating Dota hero
is the fact that he can be flexed between core
and support roles pretty much across every single patch
and it feels like every single patch
has a different build with the hero as well.
We've even seen Battle Fury of old, we've seen the Gliteners,
we've seen the Battle Furies, Radiance, Echo Saber Diffusals, Deathsows...
If it's a right-click based item I I think Monkey King at some point has built it across all patches.
I do like the Weaver as a response though to the Monkey King
One of the better heroes, the bugs can follow him onto the trees there
And of course it is very hard to get that maximum number of stacks required on a hero
that can skitter away.
Speaking of Skitter he is playing that hero the most
on the team but they did show recently that Crit can play too.
And you know which facet he takes on Weaver?
The skitter scatter.
Skitter scatter there we go or skitters step not sure which one it is.
I was just going to say because Weaver as a hero
one of his voice lines is skitter
scatter. Okay but it is called
I believe Skitter Step so literally made for this
man he saw that and was like well
I can't play this right now
So Nat, I think you're...
You're a big advocate for the Skidder Gyro
You know, you love seeing the gyro
Okay, you know what? I've never actually said it on broadcast
Oh, I'm sorry.
Throwing you under the bus?
I've said this so many times off air before but
my goodness, I don't know if I want to see Skidajara
again in my lifetime especially not
this tournament but I'll say it. my lifetime, especially not this tournament.
But I'll declare right now on the second last day what could possibly go wrong?
You're right, VSJ, I am hoping that this goes...
This weaver is for carrying the gyro
just kind of looked over off the decided falcon yeah looking at the bands that
tundra did they did ban out phoenix which is a great hero against monkey king where you can put
the egg and you can team fight against wukong's command the missed chance is good overtime damage
messes up with monkey king as well and also poscar a hero that uh is also very difficult for certain
matchups uh monkey king it's a bit different now
because you don't have the disarm
You have silence instead
but also can be very annoying
for Monkey
I mean that Husker band is definitely on call
In the second phase there
this is a hero
that almost just doesn't
even get played
or banned.
And it's not like
they even won with it
when they did pick it up.
It was supposed to be
a gotcha pick
and it did nothing.
This is a very
question mark
second phase ban for me, but we'll see what they have in
store for them.
But they're going to pick up the Nyx's ass.
I'm gonna make a theory that Tundra's gonna pick a mid hero on 18 that needs three bans,
and one of which is Huskar.
Because we saw it last series with Liquid,
they 18th picked Ember, banned out Huskar SF,
and then got dazzled.
I feel like if Liquid had, like, banned
the Huskar
SF or the Dazzle in the second
round of bans, the Ember would have probably had a much
better game, maybe made a very different story
so I'm just trying to answer you, huh? Because
I agree it is confusing to see that Oscar. That's the only thing I can think of and we'll
just have to see when that 18 pick comes up. But he needs three back. Yeah, as you said
Is it really only like what are the mid lane? He has a lot of bad matchups.
He has a high win rate in this tournament
but Ember historically has quite
a lot of bad matchups in the mid lane.
It's hard to cover all the bases
but there are some heroes that BSJ mentioned that are kind of very
difficult for him to play into.
Yeah, we'll have to see if that actually
comes true, but
going into the other side here,
we don't know where Snapfire's gonna go, we don't really know where Weaver's
going to go so Falcon's very open
on the side of Tundra. They have exclaimed
this Monkey King is going to be a core
with the Nyx and Yakiro being picked up
and maybe them...
All right, we're going to see if this still doesn't answer a lot for us,
to be honest with you.
Maybe just Pango mid.
I think that's the only answer we truly have here.
Isn't this just a dark seer from the offlane for Tundra?
Great with Nyx Assassin, still in the pool great combo over time damage you have something to control the slark as well
and also carry right then amar is that one guy who will play
offlane Slark. True. I mean
it's almost certainly an offlane Slark, meaning
he could be flexed to carry but it's not a carry
Slark getting flexed to offlane. It's an
offlane Slark that could be flexed to carry i think
that's an important distinction to make based on what they've been
with this team yes but this team specifically guys please do not pick
offline slark in your pubs uh amar is on one he also used to be a carry player for like a year
in competitive, so...
And he played Slark every game.
How many times did people play
Rubick with Glipson
Blobson after seeing Thopson yesterday.
What do you think?
I think Rubik's win rate safely dropped at least 3%.
Yeah, I would say between 7%
and 200 people played it.
Okay.
That's a pretty wide range!
At least two people did it, Lacoste.
At least a minimum of two.
Alrighty well this is the last pick for the second phase here
The Faceless Void That's such a good faceless void game
like he counters both beaver encounters slark as well time dilation kills both of
these heroes snark can get rid of it, it's also great against Bango,
you have Lockdown
when they don't
have anything
that can deal
with that Chronos
here there is no
save whatsoever
until maybe some
later stages
of the game
when you pick up
the...
There's only one problem though he just gave slark a free lane
i was about to say that but matchup is horrible anyway yeah he just gave them our absolutely
free lane and it can be good for slark historically it has been but at the same time it's a reaction test battle if
you can get off your ultimate before the chrono then you're pretty good because they added
additionally the shard as well so even after after Chrono you're still being vulnerable.
I'm not sure how much I'm feeling this one
especially because I feel like they need
more sources of damage that can go into
the Chrono because it doesn't feel like
Void potentially is going to be able to hit a lot of heroes.
The Wukongs come in, you got multiple circles coming out
from Tundra.
This is where Darkshare comes in.
A big combo.
Surely they ban.
They have to.
I thought they were going to pick it on 18th instead but they went with faceless void
not sure if that would be like highly contested in the last banning phase but i think darks here
has to go i mean there's like Seer, Enigma was already banned
I can see Beastmaster which is still in the pool
Which is a bit of a surprising one
Yeah, you need something to lane with us next
and Basu has been a go-to or ranged. The reason why Tundra's in the lower bracket
in the first place is because of game three where 33 Wind Waker make out of a black hole
and I think we might get Amarr with his chance to be 33
with the Depth Shroud shard coming from Slark.
Like it's going to, you mentioned a game of reactions.
I'm wondering as an off lane Slarks
cause you'd never do this as carry
is it ever an option to go like fourth item
Aetherlands just to make sure
whoever's in the Chrono
sounds great! Whoever's in the
Chrono gets saved. Wind Waker
Think about it. Refresher. Think about it i mean ed possibility but i think i'm
thinking i don't like it ah you just play for your timing so you have the slark with
potentially double pounds to avoid you have theipnir on the Weaver, and
Void as we know, very very
slow hero. And this is
one of my big concerns here in my power rankings
as of now. I put Tundra
probably out of the four teams left as number
4 right now. This is a series in which they
have to be my number 2 team Falcons
right now. It's not going to be a
team you want to play slow against and
they do have some very slow heroes here nix plays kind of slowing away in the
laning stage so does the faces void so you're almost gifting two lanes to one
of the most aggressive teams dota right now now. Kind of scary. Is it ever
Monkey King carry against Slark and then
Void mid for Topson?
Are we going to time zone? I don't think you do time
zone just because of Weaver, right? It's bad against
Weaver. He's still hasted, I think.
Bongo bootsots also nullifies that ability completely. You can just run out of it.
You cannot be slowed for 1.5 seconds so
That's the item to buy.
Who's gonna buy it?
Anybody, I've seen quite a lot of them.
Bongo boots?
Yeah get even more speed!
Snapfire can do it.
3-0 on Nyx for 9 class.
That's an impressive stat, given that we've seen pretty polarizing performances from Nyx
like sometimes it just looks like he controls the entire map
Yeah, yeah, he's like really good at
gank tanking with it
I'd say.
When I watched
9 Class
he actually shows
on waves a lot
and uses the facet
that gives you
free pathing
and super high
movement speed
for the first
10 seconds of your ulti
He uses that as a way to be like a bounty
hunter that doesn't mind showing and then escaping
and right now they have pretty limited catch
for him if you think about it on the side of Falcons
like, pretty much Slark
is going to be the one that can stop him from running away at hasted move speed,
and it'd have to be something where he lands the pounce first.
So this Nyx in terms of map control and information
that he needs to set up for like the Void Chrono or the Monkey King who's gonna be on the trees...
Nineclass has got a lot of weight on his shoulders in regards
to that information game.
This looks like an easy inch pick or what?
I was thinking maybe CM,
inch to stabilize the lane
against the beastmaster or that what about gyrocopter
and put this not in game five look up it's still in there it is still in there. It is still in there, but I saw all the other options that Lacoste gave
that I much prefer personally.
I don't know about you though, Bsj.
Yeah, I mean, I think what they're saying about the support...
yeah, you have the Knicks to like deal with Enchantress creeps But I think it they're saying about the support.
Yeah, you have the Knicks to deal with Enchantress Greaves,
but I think if you just shut down this Beastmaster,
we've got a good lane for Slark.
I am a bit concerned about whoever lanes against Monkey King,
whether it's Monkey King carry or Pango
mid and Monkey King mid. Let's see who takes Monkey King. That's going to tell me a lot about this
because we see a CK coming out last.
So we got the offlane start confirmed. It's going to be
mid-Pango and...
They're not showing it, Thompson! Mid-boy!
Wow! Okay.
So this makes a little more sense
that Slark... I mean the Slark-Monkey King matchup
is funny because both of them want to hit you with their passives.
But Slark wants to trade three times each exactly so that he doesn't get the Jingu off.
So there's going to be a lot of little mind games back and forth in the bottom lane.
It's going to be a very snowbally
lane one way or the other um i'm very curious about this void mid how dependent is it on
the supports to stabilize these lanes for the off-lane of falcons and then
the safe lane on the side of thunder esports very important
two of the strongest landing supports in the game snapfire and weaver i mean i
don't know what is going to happen with sidelines but i know malorin is just gonna
dumpster this game because he's gonna have an absolutely
free lane against Faceless Void.
I'm not entirely sure as a faith in Topson...
You have no faith in Topson!
I have faith in Topson, I just don't have faith in thompson void versus a pangolier mid it is the max time
dilation build i checked his dota pro tracker he played it two times in the last eight days
you did go for glyphs and globson of course
and one time we went to mage slayer internal shroud octarine
which is right uh win rate is zero percent yeah
it's about to be 33%. I'm
skeptical for all the reasons that both these guys
mentioned. I think the tempo
that Falcons is presenting
is too high, and once they...
They're going to chase you to the ends of the earth.
They have Slark,
they have Weaver,
they have Pangolier.
There's no escaping these guys.
They're just going to run at you.
My biggest question now
is having seen both drafts
via your tempo issues
questioned.
Sorry.
Yes.
Thank you. No not really I feel like
Faces Void is a very slow hero and Pangol's very fast too
I think you have a lot of cool ideas on Tundra but they're just way to slow
in a meta where if teams are playing fast, you're not going to get
to the point where you want to be in the game quick enough.
All righty. Lacoste, you're gonna have to hold
your thoughts. Whatever you say, you can say it at the end
because right now let's head on down to our
Tundra coach and... Hey, I'm here with the coach. Tell me Let's head on down to our Conjure Coach and Purge.
Hey, I'm here with the coach.
Tell me is this going to be a time zone game?
Definitely gonna be a time zone game as topson.
That's what I suppose that's right.
Can't wait to see what he goes.
Why is Monkey King the most contested hero of this tournament?
Because we play Monkey King in three roles, every team.
Never given us Monkey King once at a tournament, and whenever they try to play
Monkey King against us we beat everyone.
So I'm very surprised we got Monkey King.
Okay that should give you decent matchup against the Slark unless we're gonna see Omar do some
crazy stuff. Do you think Monkey is going to see Amar do some crazy stuff.
Do you think Monkey's gonna beat Slark in lane?
We don't really know, Amar wants to play Slark offlane so Topson is like
if he's playing a cool hero I'm playing a cool hero too
I am playing Faces Void
Can you show us what items he's gonna buy as the mid, Faces Void?
I have no idea.
You gotta check like his pups and stuff.
This guy just wants to play Faces Void
you give it to him.
It's a two-time TI winner.
You don't even know? I don't even know i don't
even know just let him cook all right we'll see
we'll see what happens
nobody is gonna out hipster thompson that's all there is to it so if you're going to out-hipster Thompson. That's all there is to it,
so if you're going to bring a weird pick
to the table,
you know Thompson's going to respond in kind
and it's going to be mid-basis void
with the time zone.
We heard about the items from some of the panel based off the thompson's pub but avery it's cool but is it good cool is good.
That's fair enough.
All right, the rule of cool is apparently going to dominate
this fourth and third place matchup
to see who's gonna be moving on
to top three,
who's gonna be moving on to the final day matchup to see who's going to be moving on the top three. Who's going to be moving on to the final
day? Matchup against
Liquid, just got
daylight smacked out of them
by Game Gladiators. Hopefully this series
is certainly going to be a longer
series, I'll tell you that
I'll guarantee it
This is a longer series guaranteed
because Falcons and Tundra
are two of the slower teams.
Obviously, nobody really competes when it comes to game body
and it's as if it was going to come to speed.
So these guys have to be slower but I felt like going into it, Tundra was actually one of the
slower teams in the entire tournament.
And they have made
it this far. What do you give their
chances against Falcons?
Actually, it's pretty close. think they've been in better form relative to their past turns
and falcons have uh but falcon's floor has been really high this season they're always gonna be
a tough contender i think if Tundra play up to their max
potential that they've been showing in this tournament, they can
absolutely take the series
and I think a lot of it's maybe coming down to that man
how much he finds across these two or three games
on this carry role.
There's a lot of pressure on Pierre to keep delivering
with these performances he's had.
He's kind of the player where you have like this,
you know, four space maker
with this carry farming type style that Tundra developed
and Pierre is willing to take all that farm in conflict carry farming type style that Tundra have developed
and Pure is willing to take all that farm and constantly connect with the fights.
It only really works if he doesn't get caught up on
the map, and if he's on a hero
that can really scale well into the game.
That's why I've seen things like
The Dragon Knight or The Brute come out for him, which
does lead to a little bit of a slower playstyle for Tundra.
They're not going to be a team that's going high ground super early or rushing down Roshans
but i do think they are pretty quick at reacting to fights and willing
to fight early and often especially when you have Thompson on the
team it's going to be guaranteed so in that sense i don't think they're a
slow team in terms of what they're willing to do on the map to get there
yeah that's why I like their monkey game
so much, because I think
we may not see it as
often as Moodbeander pointed out a lot of teams
will pan this hero away from them because
flex potential that Tundra especially have, but
I feel like it is one of their best
carry heroes because of the fact that
for the same reason it works so well for Liquid.
Right? Mikkei, Monkey King
like we've seen this time and time again,
the mobility on that hero.
Use that aggression.
Go through the gate.
Show up in these lanes
and just start being active, active, active.
Nobody is more active than Pure
when it comes to the carry
role at this turn.
I've been involved in everything
excited to see what this series brings
you know, maybe don't speak for everybody
but I feel like I have a limit on the amount
of pipe rush
games I can watch a day.
What? You don't know how to stack
Auras and end the game in 20 minutes?
I mean you gotta do what you gotta do. You're playing for millions of dollars.
You're gonna play the strategies that win but...
My God if I see one more pipe rush on off later
I'm going to lose my mind.
Well we are presumably not going to see
that's for Tundras they're going to see that for Tundra as they're
gonna be rocking a very late pick Beastmaster. I could
not believe there was a last-pick beastmaster in the game. Yeah which means
you're gonna have to buy the pipe on the mid void here.
So it'll be an interesting development for Tundra and see where they fit those auras in.
You think he's actually going to go that?
No.
Interesting... so I mean let's talk about this mid void for a little bit because
It is obviously the flash you pick here.
The topson special.
He's going to get harassed on his way to lane.
Not too happy about it, but he'll walk it off.
So my theory about this whole time zone thing,
there's like this big debate why would you want times over chronos yeah the biggest argument in my mind for that
this facet is when you have a bunch of other melee heroes on your team
that do not interact well with Chrono Spirit.
Because in this type
of game, you have two melee cores that are
a lot of your damage. The only spell
that does work with Chrono is Macropire, and
let me tell you something. You're not throwing down
Chronosphere for Macropire. So
this time zone works way better
with every single other hero on his team,
which sometimes is a big problem for this hero.
Like, okay, you can have a great face as Void game
versus what you're seeing, but is it that good
with the heroes on your team? This hero
has big synergy problems all the time. He has
big chase problems all the time.
So in theory, Time Zone can eliminate some of those issues, right? Now you can throw
down this spell. Your Monkey and Beast can get
in the middle of that fray. They get the bonus
attack speed. Everybody's happy.
That part I can see it being
pretty influential and having a way better impact
than Cronus here.
That's at least my theorycraft here.
Of course, Time Dilation is
what makes this hero right now as well.
This is a great Time-dialation game
against the Weaver,
the Pango,
even the Sark sometimes,
Snapfire.
A lot of these heroes
want to get multiple rounds
of spells off in the fight.
If you get good time dilations,
two or three of them especially.
You're really going to debilitate Falcone.
Lamar is just dead!
And Andre estimated the damage there coming out from Jokero with the Liquid Frost
and now he's got dual breath so So big slip up there from Lamar because
the matchup we talked about
here at PSJA, talk about
how this matchup goes off lane
Slark versus Monkey King and how they're trying to
trade hits but the Slark doesn't want to give hit too many times well the early experience goes a long
ways for the monkey king in this match yeah even moon meander didn't know
now i'll tell you one thing there's a lot of coaches who don't know a lot of things about this tournament.
It's interesting coaching that.
I don't know if they're purposely hiding stuff or they legit just don't know.
Are you angling for a job here
or what? Look, all I'm saying is
I used to coach a team back in the day and that had
PPD on it. And if I went into one of
those things and said, I don't know what we're doing,
I would have been out of a job within the hour,
I can guarantee you that.
So I don't know what's changing in the Dota scene,
but man,
I wish I could have said,
I don't know to a lot of this stuff.
Either way,
it's working out for him as Pure is
definitely winning that early lane.
He is indeed. Now the last timezone interaction
I want to point out is this fellow also leashes
today a wee leash? Yes, I was going to say
in this matchup surely that's
a really big
component you've got pango and slark
Yeah, I think it could be pretty interesting versus these
falcon scores again like
that leash can be nice because your leashing them in there and your monkey
and your beast are able to go in there and start smacking.
Which sounds kind of cool.
Will any of that happen? I don't know.
Sometimes these tops and picks work out. Sometimes they
don't but that is enough for the Faces Void.
It'll just have to
work out on its own here. I don't know, Austin.
I don't know what's going to happen.
I didn't know they were going to pause the game there.
I don't think anybody knew it. pause the game there all right well while we have a pause we can go over a lot of spam going
on people have really picked on up on uh spirits met of pinging facets and that's a good one
that's uh that's fun didn't help much i guess but i will say another another note
about the time zone if the leash effective, it does last a lot
longer than Chronosphere. Level 1
lasts 1.25 seconds longer
and will obviously just scale better
as well as it goes up half a second
as opposed to Chronosphere going up quarter of a second.
So, like it can make
a very large impact.
We'll just see how
it goes. I mean right now as long as lanes
are good, I think Tundra is in a pretty happy position
i do think that this faceless void destroys the sloth on paper it looks
good in practice that's another question.
And of course you got to get out of lanes.
You got to be able to play Dota here.
It's a rough meta for the hero
when he has super long cooldowns.
We've seen a lot of the big ultimate heroes
in fact just suffer
because the pace is too fast for them. You know what
happens when you throw out these chrono
time zone type spells, Ravage
even some big dooms and stuff
and then enemies take Roshan in a tower
while you're waiting for the spell to come back up
That's the part you have to alleviate I also take Roshan in a tower while you're waiting for the spell to come back up.
That's the part you have to alleviate.
I also think
you're up against
what,
in my opinion,
has been
the standout carry
of the tournament
into Chaos Knight.
You were talking about
the Monkey King
but
I rate Chaos Knight extremely
high. I think especially when you get it in that second phase
where you see some good core
matchups. This hero is just a lame
demolisher. He
is a beast in the team fight it feels like
at every point
in the game
he has great
itemization paths
gives you objectives
gives you lane shove
and I think Skeeter
is one of the best
Chaos Knights
in the world
there are a lot
of great Chaos Knight
players in this event
but what he can do on this hero for Falcon in terms of setting there are a lot of great ks9 players in this event but
what he can do on this hero for falcons in terms of setting up the lane
setting up the map making moves playing your strong early game
should not underestimate it here in terms of his ability to match pure on
that monkey king both these carries are very active players
will be looking to exert pressure at their win yeah frankly it feels like there's no
downside to this carry right there isn't there really is i mean even the counters
are supposed to deal with him.
These big guys like Underlords and Elder Titans...
Yeah you can sometimes get them in a fight but
I feel he still does enough damage
and tanks enough that it's
It's worth
them anyway.
Yeah, and part of
the thing like those
tanky heroes with
the Orchid build you
just get demolished
by the Chaos Knight
anyway.
Like you can't
actually survive
this.
This hero is terrifying to play against especially the ultra late we saw that game earlier today
from falcons where they just had the ag ck and the ultralate and he's creating
a billion illusions with everybody it's way too hard to focus in that fight for psg quest they really
suffered in those late game team fights versus
hero so i feel like this year was gone not that he's gone under the radar but
he's definitely been performing well
nine class gonna be hit by the cookie here and will be brought low
by a falcon support rotation so they rotate uh, like the timing of this,
they do it a little bit after five minutes
so you move along from here
to then trying to secure the power room
so you are effectively
trying to win two lanes with one like minute long move
see what shows up because hero is on the other side of things
mainly about taking this rune away from Maureen.
Rather than anything else.
Oh my god! secure kill. It's Whitemon hoping that he gets bounced up to the high ground
and he does
but good neutral creep
will take the last hit
while crit takes
the invis rune.
Well played
wasted rolling thunder there
didn't even get
the rune on the pango
but is getting wasted wasted yeah he is getting massacred
in this lane it's the power of the chaos knight and there's a massive gap opening up on that tape
plane for Falcons here Ske's just completely taking this lane over
every time there is a swarm out it's a kill
and Ranzys continues to suffer,
And you know what? We saw this lane earlier today in Austin
The old mixed Beastmaster
for Liquid. Oh, yeah.
I don't think they did much better with it.
No, no, they didn't.
Wow!
It bothers me because, like,
Beastmaster has got to be the offlaner
that I feel like is one of
the best carry heroes
off the offlane.
What a hit!
Dual breath on three
like that with the
Blood Grenade on top.
These supports are going
to get melted.
Okay, that is a massive turnaround
for Tundra. They were looking to get routed there. Maybe
lose your Wizard Moon instead. Three-man Impale
three-man Dual Breath.
White Mon cleans up a nice little room here.
Big swing in this early game as that lane was just turning
into it completely one side of the bear did not get to chaos knights you're a
little sad about that but he will definitely take your reward hey time zone is online.
It's ready.
Anyway, I just feel like if there's any hero
I want to make sure has
a clean laning phase,
if you win the laning phase, then your support has more room to go stack.
In which case,
the Beastmaster just accelerates even faster.
I feel like...
Why are these teams not giving a stronger support
to the Peace Master.
Does that work by the way? Like you just ask Playly and then...
Yeah, Mar asking for some farm. Please sir!
May I have some creeps?
Here. have some creeps. Here, Relentless
gives no response
and there's the
timezone! So they're all gonna crowd
in here to kill the Chaos Knights
and they've got them
dead right.
I'm not gonna lie,
it only really did
anything there
but it looked cool.
It did look cool
while we were
able to walk into it
you know?
And it increased
attack speed while
they were inside but i'll say one thing you know atf
throwing out some all chat here it's good to see before you're winning
the game you know but is he the guy who they're gonna
you know suddenly give some farm to?
I feel like
he's the last person I want to give farm.
That's what I'm saying, man.
I feel like after you've been trash-talked by this
guy for the entire year.
Yeah.
The last person I'm gonna give some farm to is that man.
In fact, they probably have him all muted so...
Yes, I believe that's why nobody has responded
oh nice core kill for thompson shuts down the chaos knight getting something for this time zone early night class trying really hard to defend
its ancient stack that they're trying
through on the beast master, but it looks like the supports will finally get got.
Last couple of last year,
but he'll miss out on the two big boys that are left sad for ramses this is my issue
with the nick east lane i don't doubt these heroes strengths and i don't doubt what they can do in
the mid game but the lane has a big issue for these heroes, and then when you start
to fall behind, you lose access to your
ancients. That's the recovery for the beast.
Nyx doesn't really help you defend that early
he needs a lot of levels. So
they're going to have to rotate Thompson over here
to try and defend the area.
Pure is doing well.
And Pure has made this move through the gate
to get to the enemy safe lane, joins his team in a big fast
move to overwhelm Falcons.
And he's unable to get the kill on maureen this time
lose a courier for their trouble and this ward on the cliff is doing a lot of work
for falcons right now spotting a lot of thunder's movement just didn't have time
dilation or time zone up on that plan of course no points in the bash yet so skeeter continues
to have a very strong early game here despite the one death.
Chaos Knight has abused Hunter's Offling, forced a lot of response there
which in theory would free up this Sork to farm with it but as we saw he
was not doing amazing in this one-on-one
did get some recovery time the levels are still solid here for atf
be interesting how falcons decide to play this early game out from here
if they want to continue to try and clash around the tier
ones. If they're worried about the counter
initiation from the faceless void,
Jokero looking for Ramsey's
just trying to contest these these agents as much as I
can yeah another ancient stack that's gonna be interrupted the cookie forward
to stop it before we go that is a super heads up play.
Oh, that was so cool!
They'll still get him on the Ice Cap Impale here, so looks like they
will get the Revolta Kill on
Maureen, which is...
I mean, he's worth more than the Beastmaster
surely.
Disrupting Ramsey's game by a lot
at the price of your mid laner
I feel like Falcons are still okay
with that exchange overall. Again, you're forcing reaction out of
Tundra which means there's space elsewhere and that's just a
free kill on mid. The last hit
by the Catapult.
You're unable to get there in time so you
go for the
deny. He's going battle fury build up do you like that
this game no lightning i suppose maybe that top that's thompson's territory
battlefield is interesting, maybe the
cleave will be solid later
around the CK and some illusions
and stuff like that
but yeah kind of surprising
I haven't really felt the strength
of battle theory in general this tournament
but it is being built a lot do you think time zone
affects the stations
i think they attack faster as a result probably not right
deal i don't see it bumping the statues.
Hold on... That sounds insanely broken!
So, I imagine does not work?
I thought you were gonna say imagine it doesn't
work that way because that's kind of the essence of dota
breaking no no awesome nice
you break things so that they're so tanky,
you can't die. Not because they do so much damage and kills them.
Right! Sorry.
You're going in the wrong direction.
Now let's say Time Zone gave those monkey statues 90% damage resistance...
We'd be on to something. Sure. statue's 90% damage resistance,
we'd be on to something.
Sure.
Let's go with a 10,000 effective HP.
What if Time Zone just spawned
a Wraith Pact? That, that would be a good spell.
Yeah.
A wraith pact just in the middle of the timezone
Can't attack
can't do damage with spells
I'll Thompson looking for the Glapner build up
gonna be a pretty slow one
for him
he is very tanky
he can get multiple
time dilations off
in the fight
due to his tankiness.
That's kind of what you're looking for,
but I also don't think Tundra mind trading farm
during this period.
The Fusil is up for Amar,
so the Hawkins would kind of like
to get some skirmishing done here.
Big old Lotus might be needed for Amar or he's just two heads up Tundra,
unable to catch him and at this rate they're going to get caught by Maureen
Whitemon stops the smoke Maureen's gonna cut the wave and tundra feel the constriction coming
with it through the gate oh he walks right into that ice pass.
They thought they were going to sandwich instead.
Tundra, a blow-up sneaking and then go through the gate themselves.
They say, okay, you want to take over this safe lane?
That's fine.
We'll do the same to you.
Had that word on the top gate
that just spotted that easy pickup there for
Tundra and again showing
the activity of Pure in this game. He's
been on both sidelines very active with this Monkey King
and Tundra Needed. I think it's one of the things that
has helped these two teams
in particular remain in the tournament
against a lot of the pace when you have a very active
carry who's willing to fight,
join early ganks even if he's building a farming item. It counts for a long
Yes I don't think you can play the
four positions in some of the bids
that Tundra does without having
a carry who is uh proactive in his movements around that
or at least willing to read the situation and not just afk farm
contributing a little makes a big difference.
Level 10 for this Monkey King, he's in a solid position.
Level 10 for Thompson.
Also doing quite fine here I think that Atos is done.
Time to get some points of the bash
kind of an even quiet early game from both teams so thompson plays mid-rugle.
He goes Glikens.
Yeah.
He builds the Maelstrom first.
Yeah.
He plays Faces Void.
Yeah.
He goes Glikens.
He goes Seratovitos first.
Yeah. What?
Shouldn't it be the other way around?
No, you need Maelstrom on Rubick to farm
the Atos and you need a toast on faces void
To kill enemy heroes to get the mail
But can you use the atos on Rubick to kill enemy heroes?
No, because Rubick already has Disables.
It doesn't need more.
It needs damage.
Thank you for enlightening me.
I swear,
I don't understand
Dota 1's top since playing.
Well, that's his goal!
He wants to make it
so you don't understand
what's going on
and then
at 40 minutes he slays you when you don't know what happened
and you're very confused
then you become a Dota 2 caster.
Retire from the game forever.
Early Roche attempt, trying to use this Beastmaster Axe.
Classic at this point in the event.
Looks like it's going to go uncontested. I mean, this is just not really a ball you want
to fight into right now if you're about...
Come on!
That's a tough fight for
Falcons. You have to go into the Wukong,
into the Roardrums, Macropire... Tundra are very strong set up
when they're together and Falcons are forced to go into them
that's where the time zone macro
Wukong can really do some damage and you don't have early aura buyers
on the side of falcons that's the downside of this slark pick
it's a lot greedier. Wants to play the map
a lot more,
wants to split
the farm up
and pick people off
a lot more
than just group behind
some sort of ball.
So Hawkins are going
to have to try
and look for that.
Maybe abuse
the slark vision
in the nighttime
find some more pickoffs maybe they're just
ultra happy going super late here but that's kind of scary into the faces void
that hero is a beastly game like no matter what just very obnoxious.
6-6, 16 minutes in.
It is
so different from last series. both teams are just content to farm away yeah i mean if this
were getting an objective every like five minutes that this were game and liquid we'd
already be hitting tier threes and someone would already have every orb on the game
you know this guy bought nato's like what's he doing didn't get that memo
that's an active item you're supposed to buy passive items.
Yeah, Thompson knows Atos doesn't give like 10% magic in this, right?
Blink daggeragger up soon for Ramzes with the Aegis.
Imagine Tundra will try and make another move somewhere around that.
Maybe find something around mid, take this Mid Talon?
What a weird map state.
I mean surely the Sark is happy about what's going on he has the most real estate
and he has just been free farming this bottom lane forever yeah he is
hoovering up farm so i kind of feel like if you're a thunder you want to use
this ages at least push mid get a fight out of it
bring sort to you. Stop him farming.
Otherwise, yeah, you were better going
for the Maelstrom over the Aetos first.
I don't think he's used it once, so...
But it doesn't feel like they want to make a move?
Oh that is an inch-
I like that.
You're spotting out, Maureen!
Don't pull the trigger on it. And can't keep on running at this mid lane because
you saw what happened earlier snap harder just shot down the creep wave from
from way in the back and then there was nothing to hit the tower with so they break apart
have to go to bottom here's gonna show up mar he's going to try and slip the noose here
fights him a bit can't t TP with the Bounce Up.
He's gonna eat that Lotus, hit by the Ice Path and now Thompson is here ready to go
With the Time Zone if it's needed, it is not.
Ammar curious that he chose to fight
that one i guess you truly didn't believe tundra was making a full
rotation i mean he can't get away technically
always outchase the sark here with the bunkie pass it yeah i guess so like he doesn't have an
axe or anything one little bounce and that's it falcon is kind of stuck on the map right now
stuck on the map but stuck owning 80% of it.
Yeah. But it feels like they do want to do something here.
We're gonna try a little bit.
A little kisses action here.
Gonna play Mon over and over and over again
i thought skeeter was somehow going to come in and take that last hit
so i guess this game state really comes down to if you're happy happy farming Slark and CK versus
Monkey and
Beast.
Or if you can break this stalemate
either with like a Nyx pick off or extra farm on the supports.
If you're Falcons, both of them looking to clear up some waves.
Okay they are going to force the fight mid.
Oh! Had the Dark Packs so that's not so good for Tundra.
Their initiation fails
to find its mark on Amar
but because of the Aegis
and a Thompson
nobody will die on the side of Tunnel.
Agents expiring in 35 seconds,
they're just not going to give anything really for it.
Ended up losing now during this period of time.
Not the most aggressive Aegis usage I've seen,
did get the Monkey King to the BKB,
so maybe now you're a bit more confident
to force the head-on objective pushes
or wraparounds
with this monkey being able
to commit to the fight
is a big deal here for Pure.
Probably would have just got
chain stunned in a lot of these
engagements by the Pango.
Well, BKB chain started a lot of these engagements by the pango well bkb on one core know the beastmasters building vkb as well so maybe tundra
they're gonna chill wait on that timing here it does look like he's going to be able
to take the big tower while they're doing tormentor from inside of falcons nine class
another dragon build-up for nix that just can't find the pick-offs.
Pure does have a force of power...
Oh! Got him on the Palace of Marr!
Laid the ambush and catches Pure out.
Pure has to use the BKB
And he's still gonna go for the fight though grams
is coming in from behind a primal war on skeeter brings him low and news nowhere to run too
he's going to die okay monkey is strong, man!
Not an easy target for Falcons to fight into
unless you can get that chain stun with the pango or something
and start it off
And monkey in theory has a very good matchup against chaos it's one of the carries that can go toe-to-toe with him in the late game especially if you anchor the fights around those later
roshans and force the ck into you yep you just have so much armor you can stay
in your ground you have an aoe stun you're very tanky yourself i mean they're they're
anyway stuff it's pretty out of control time zone Zone, Wukong's Command and then
Macropire
and Beastmaster drums.
I don't know this Tundra skills
it's kind of spooky man.
It's hard to gauge with this time zone you just don't really know what it's going
to look like does he have the first image missed it on the chicoo cheap but eh amar has not really found any pick-offs like he normally does with his Slark, but we'll find the first one on Whitehawk.
Important for him to start finding something. Yeah, he's had that infusible way for quite some time
and I feel like once he has that
usually you know he gets like
two or three support pick offs
it's been a while but he finally gets one
Ideally this all-planes arc is giving you some vision advantage, giving you some threat
during the nighttime, some leash
against some of these noble heroes and
pickoff potential because he's not really giving you much
in an actual 5v5.
So you really need to find these little moments with him
and use that farm
for something.
An early gem
bought by Snakey.
Yeah, they've been buying
pretty early gems.
I think a lot of teams
have been pumping
the priority on this.
I think this one's particularly interesting
because it is a
very dead even game.
Well, he wants it for the Nyx and since
they have the sword, you have a great
gem carrier who should not die with it and can just run around the
map and deward it also about to hit at night time in two minutes so not a bad
point to pick it up you say he should not die with it but he doesn't have
eggs and you said you can't really get away from the monkey king there's time zone
i think his gem they could very easily lose in a fight yeah but just farming on the map
he's probably okay with it i mean you can't let
you can't let something like nix dictate where you are willing to go
i think that's the biggest factor here also gives this
some kill potential in nine class if you randomly run into Yeah, there's a Nyx without boots or anything.
He's pretty slow.
The dodging continues
now he's building the bongo boots crit on point with the itemization here. Yeah, somebody has to.
Somebody's gotta get
the team out of the time zone.
There is also another thing about Time Zone
it gives you cast speed as well when you're inside of him.
Which is really good for Monkey King, right?
Like he can hop into the Time Zone
and get his ultimate off really quickly.
Pick-pick off from Aurora into
three cores right on top of you. Maureen is not expecting that bit of aggression i'm sure
his tundra really haven't been on this side of the river for a while nice little pickup
orbit destruction gonna do some work for this Monkey and Pure.
Man, this guy just out-farms everybody.
You cannot stop him
unless you're killing him.
And he's just going into the axe. This is
basically the hardest scaling Monkeyville you can have.
He's going to be a beast. BKB is done for Ramsey's
team. These guys are just scaling up,
man. When are you going to
try and take a fight of your Falcons? You've had this blink
Orchid CK for a while just got nothing done with
it you haven't gotten a lot of map control to start i think this is uh classic falcon
situation where they think they're like we're outscaling you guys i don't know if that's true i agree
i think like looking at the way that this is developing i do favor tundra a bit
i think with this ck manta you have to start playing more aggressive and you definitely want to contest this next roshan of your falcons
like you have some nice early item buildings you've had this vessel for a while you have some nice early item buildups.
You've had this Vessel for a while.
You have the Droma and the Snap.
What are skirmishes with these items?
This Monkey King is just getting away
with Battle Fury BKB Aghs
and he's getting kills on top of it has not died once that axe is done i mean
don't hero really keeps up with monkey when you get to this point he just keeps moving across the
map but that's where aggression is your answer right if you kill pure maybe
once or twice this game in the early game he might have three or four k lessons it makes a
huge difference if you can take the space away take the camps away slow down the battle theory
by one or two
minutes.
Slow it down
everything else.
They've given him a
lot of room to operate
and damn it that is
a very timely rune
here.
Oh yeah right as
you're about to go for the Roshan
contest. A huge ruin for Falcons.
Gotta get here in time
though, you don't know exactly when it's spawning
Here he is settled in with his Aghanim's Scepter.
It's the right play to do because Roshan
is actually going to spawn very soon.
Pop out of the pit to try and take a fight
into Falcons. Stinking has to use his ult to slip away pure
running forward diving forward through the trees getting information maureen he gets
his jump in alongside of Marth.
Let's see what the Primal Roar is gonna go on,
he just gets blown up right away!
Skeeter does not last long,
he tries to get out Phantaff and Mantuff
but it cannot get out of the Wukong's command.
It's too much for him.
So yeah they stop the the face of Floyd from getting
off the time zone but they've lost their carry.
Amar and Maureen are going to have to do it
with the two of them up against this monkey gate
and it looks like they got it.
They just wiped through Tundra.
The scaling up Slark and Pango
don't need their Chaos Knight, apparently.
You got very little off that team.
All Pango and Snapfire doing the damage here. 8,000 combined
and the biggest thing is Thompson does not
get anything off in this fight. He has 100
to 0 chain control
through the rolling thunder plus the orchid. Skeeter
got the job done. Pays for it with his life, but
ultimately wins the teamfight for
Falcons here as the other two quarters are able to clean up
and that damage room from Maureen did
some work. Beautiful cookie at the end
to snag both of them as well when the bkbs are out
i mean there's just a point in theory where you can take advantage of the monkey king who
he's not dealing the most insane burst damage kind of needs to play around
the wukong and it does take out
that chaos lamp but does not get anybody else on top of that
that'll be a roshan in the falcon's hands
a cheese for the sword and nages for the chaosling.
And those bongo boots are done now,
so your time zone is definitely less effective.
Yeah.
You also are going to have the slark with the shard,
so that's an answer to Wukong's command as well.
They have some pretty good answers
to this, like, A-Wi control
at Tundra House.
You know, for a minute there I saw...
Saw Crit eyeing up some Greaves there.
That would be the third boot.
Tight.
Nice pick off on the next assassin. Falcons feel in control now.
Is this like that game where you're at two ends of a bell curve?
Like, 1K MMR Dota player buys multiple boots,
and what I would do is buy multiple boots, waste of gold
and then a 14K MMR player triple food good i'd buy every poop
oh skeeter now feeling very confident as his m, has an Aegis for four minutes here.
Vindicator Axe with some extra armor.
Pretty nice item this game when they're looking to stun and control the Chaos Knight for the fight.
Might have to wrap this game out a little bit
if you're Fungera and Dog's the 5-man right now,
try and just collect side lanes with
the Monkey King camps in the Void.
Like, just waiting out Aegis or are you
looking at an item that
you think you need if you're a tundra
i mean she goes for the beast is big but
i think it's a ways away
the next monkey item is going to be pretty nice
for the damage scaling, and of course
maybe Thompson is the biggest factor
for Tundra how much he could find.
His hero farm is pretty slow but every
item he gets is pretty impactful in terms of keeping him alive in the fight
skater just barreling in with his aegis finds it opening on white bonds
kisses will collect this is what the ck does he pushes in the lane takes
your map away and then finds a pick off giving falcons more of an opening here 10k gold lean
slowly starting to build his faces boy just can't keep up right now in fact he's
getting overtaken by this snaking weaver
yeah i the faceless boy may not be
getting too many items.
Pure's just gonna be able to stay out of the map and stuff,
but I think one thing for me is that it feels like Tundra need more control
And they just picked up
I think one of their bigger control items in the basher for
pure.
Uh, I don't think there's
really much else anybody else can get
like there's the sheaths he talked about
it's a little slow but
I'm concerned
that between the boots
and the depth shroud,
when they want to be able to keep falcons
in an area, they won't be able to do so.
Rolling Thunder
goes on
through. There's the time zone to stop
that. Keep it in place. The
shield crash though gives him
plenty of tankiness. Oh, that was
underwhelming. Very.
And he still had cheese so there's really no point in coming
oh now you have that big cool down to work with it for falcons. Still two minutes on his Aegis.
Trying to play aggressive right now.
The only downside is it's daytime for the Sork.
Definitely a little worse
to try and play aggressive.
Doesn't feel like they're in any rush
for either team, I guess.
There never is.
Not with these two teams.
Are you surprised that Amar isn't going agonizing?
Hmm... really isn't going out
i think he wanted at some point in this game just for the mobility yeah just easy out of wukong's
can also pretty easily get on these backline supports and you're solo kill
one in the fight he'd be really obnoxious for this
large magic hero
that is something that, uh...
might have an equal I think. Jules?
Ice Path Macro Pyre being thrown out trying to bail out 9-class!
He throws a stun but he is trapped inside the pallet.
Still though Tundra thinking around this tier 2 they can take the fight
They throw it! Nice depth drop!
Neat response from Amarr
Again Maureen still had the cheese so I really don't think they had a chance
of being able to kill him there.
Rancy's not realizing that he needs just get out.
Yeah, Falcons feel strong
but you saw 30 seconds left on these Aegis.
They want to keep running at you.
I mean, you are not respecting that one bit. You do
a Wukong the entire time? There's not really anything
to throw at him. Your stuns are very limited, especially with the mix going down
first.
Falcon's just
having the answers right now. The depth shroud,
the pipe on
the weaver,
the ability for Skeeter to start every fight
and just frontline
and hard for Tundra
to commit back
onto this Chaos Knight
especially when he has Aegis
but just in general
you need to combine
the lockdown plus a Wukong
to bring these big tanky heroes down.
That's not proving to be so easy.
They'll get a shard for the Faceless Void...
A little more mobility here for thompson
he's gonna have to start doing something on this game i'll tell you that much like
this is a 16k net worth mid-phase void that yeah maybe're content scaling into the ultra late but you cannot afford to be
giving up more roshans in this game and the amount of map control you're giving as well
gonna have to come in clutch with some big time zones.
He's gonna try and get Aghs next, which will help
with their control problem they're experiencing.
Definitely have an Oxy build.
I would say another big point with the level 25 for the monkey king right
for sure just a bigger wu kong's command will go a long ways but pure has to be able
to survive in the fight you can't be the one getting jumped.
Falcons just barreled down mid, they're gonna jump somebody here.
...dead...
Chain the Rolling Thunder into the Chaos Knight's stun!
They've got it.
Aghs on the Slark means you can chase as well?
Oh, Spot 9 class!
Did not get a pounce or anything to stop him.
You're just bleeding more map control though.
Here he is rushing out
the side lanes. He's like okay big push coming in a lot of heroes at
the mid lane let's see if i can get some of these other lanes in as quick as possible
i gotta abuse this monkey facet doing a pretty decent job really is it's got to abuse this monkey facet.
Doing a pretty decent job.
He really is, he's got three heroes chasing him and cleaned up two waves while he was doing that.
You kind of have to force them off the map but that chase does not feel good because you know you're likely not catching him.
Does create some room for Tunger to operate in.
Looking for Snake King.
On Snake King it does manage to get off a roar before
he can disappear into trees and that class will chain
that stunt all right they find a little bit a little bit of an opening off the monkey forcing
the lanes in here continues to keep this game alive that will get ramses to his uh shiva's i believe let's see the spurs back
up thompson he's gonna have to throw down the time zone well he just walked out of them.
Yeah...
Does DarkPak continually get rid of...?
Yeah! It does apparently.
That is an awful interaction wow
that's cool oh no it was dispersal dispersed oh okay
rancid pop vkb actually bumps into pure, he cannot be targeted here.
Bob Samantha is in a bit of trouble.
He's going to walk back with the rest
of his BKB and see if he can get back to the base.
They've already lost two though.
And Amar is collecting on stats right now
Burning to face his Void out of the mana
found the Shrike will only do so much for
Topson here as they're gonna chase him down
underneath the tier 3s no problem
They get a gem out of it, they get
bolts out of it and they get lives
out of it. Falcons just running this game over
now. Still no Wukong
drop to try and turn these fights around
here. Just unwilling to commit it here even as Falcon scores or to try and turn these fights around. Kira just unwilling
to commit it here
even as Falcon's cores
are diving deep
because he doesn't feel like
he has the lockdown
to back it up.
His Beastmaster is getting
routed out of the fight,
there is no time zone here
that mixes on the other side of that hill.
Yeah, I feel like we haven't seen Time Zone Wupong's command used in conjunction.
His monkey can do some damage but he just hasn't had the health.
Oh, it seems so! Oh, that's just hasn't had the health. Oh that's cool!
And yeah there you said it now.
No time for replaying
Just go straight tier 3, tier 4 is coming at the end of the game
and now Pure is gonna have to drop that Wukong's command. Control
be damned! Just gotta keep the Ancient alive
he'll get a Weaver. That's all he's got
meanwhile the rest of Falcon pop the
Phantasm, go for the Ancient, no blitz
to stop it, the game is done. Well, that escalated
quickly. That Chaos Knight
absolutely dominated that game from laning
phase to end. That is a hero you're going to
have to think about going into Game 2
of your Tundra and one for the rest
this tournament. You just do not want to give this team, I think CK does
way too much limited able stage here on the lane they demolish
most their lanes with it Skeeter plays the push
in the pick off game way too well with this Orchid
buildup. A slow start there,
but Falcons definitely picked their point
to take that game over and just never look
back. I think that
lineup from Tundra was cool was cool on paper but maybe the execution is just insanely difficult here because there's too many things you have to line up.
And once more comes back to this Beastmaster-Nyx lane...
It's just not doing
it for you.
It's not a hero
combination that's
going to get you
through the lane
and they kind of
work at odd ends
with each other.
You have this
Nyx that can't
stack for the
beast to recover
and wants to run
around and find
the pickoffs and then you have a beast
who wants to accelerate into an ags and kind of force
objectives which Nyx isn't great at.
I'm not seeing the synergy between
the support from the Beastmaster working out.
And I think if
Tundra
have to think about Chaos Knights
in the draft, Falcons
probably do not have to think about
Faces Void at all. No, I do not
think they were scared in the slightest.
And since at the end of game kind of proved that Thompson going two three and
three didn't really walk away with a lane win. Really did
not accomplish much with the time zone.
Didn't get to see many cool
interactions we were hoping to be able to see out
of this combination of heroes, and
as a result, Falcon
looked good for a 1-0 lead over Tundra.
Tundra up against Falcons.
Lacoste, let's just get straight on into it and talk about the mid faceless Void
And also the Facet that he picked
I feel like both those things combined
Not necessarily a recipe for success
I would say it looked good for the first 10 minutes of the game here not necessarily recipe for success.
I would say it looked good for the first 10 minutes of
the game, he was keeping up
with Malrin's CS but other than that
really didn't see the influence
of the chrono square as we're
going to call it from now on
because I could see what they were going for, but we haven't really seen that
big wombo combo. The Chronosphere
or the Chrono Square with
Wukong's command just didn't happen
throughout the whole game and at one, you've seen Team Falcons
being way too aggressive. This is how they play.
We're gonna run a two-type of Dota...
They take the second Roshan
and they team wipe them immediately
and then everything blows up.
They managed to close out the game.
Okay, but it wasn't always run at you Dota?
Like let's be real.
Yeah, the first 15 odd minutes were a little bit slow paced
so what was the exact timings for Falcons
to be able
to have that explosion and just run at them
and feel like this is our strongest point?
They understood that they can cut into back lines,
kill some of these supports early on.
And also they were separating
the whole Thundra steam fight. They were unable to
lock them together, you've seen Amar
being in the back lines forcing them to use
a bad chrono square or just
killing supports immediately with the Pangol's
roll so quite a difficult game for Tundra. They did
cook something, but it seems like people
are not hungry, not for this type of a draft
and coming into the second game they will need
to adapt. Same thing as how they adapted
yesterday when they were playing against BBDd team yeah that's true you know
tundra we've talked about before i feel like it was very crucial yesterday it was uninspiring
now it's almost too much inspiration.
Yeah, seems like they took a lot of recipes from different cuisines
and they cooked... I don't
even know what to call this but
it was something. I think it can
work just not against Team Falcons.
You need to be able to punch back early on.
I'm trying to see how far you can go with the cooking puns
or the cooking and recipe references.
Did you get any more up your sleeves?
It definitely was not a chef's kiss what they did, but...
Yeah. They need something different for game number two.
All right and then on this side of Falcons
you want them to pick up the pace even more
or are you pretty happy with what's been working?
No, as I said on a panel
they're not a cheesy team.
They are playing their own style of Dota
and so far for them it's been working out
that I don't think anything needs to change
coming into the game too these are their comfort heroes
even at one point we've seen position five weaver almost overtaking position two faceless void
what about all chatting the Lacoste?
Do you want that to change a little bit more?
Oh no.
Maybe we can go with Spice.
No, no, no.
That's the extra spice that we're going to throw in because
that's what I wanna see, you know,
a little bit of smiley faces and stuff like that,
some tips immediately.
Amar dying for the first blood. They immediately tip him off and stuff like that, some tips immediately.
Amar dying for the first blood, they immediately tip him.
That's just part of Dota right now.
And then hopefully one last question I'll ask you is
do you think that Topson will ever play a normal mid lane hero in the lower bracket.
I'm gonna say normal, you know? Normal with quotations around it.
Uh...I hope not! We have some-
Malraine's shouting at me! Go back to your team, bro.
Don't you have people
to talk to?
Go do something with the team.
I guess he doesn't need to
because he's way too good.
He's just chilling for now
but to answer your question
we have, you know
Immortal Fate guides
we have Torto Bellini guides we need thompson guys because the
way he plays dota is too fun it is were there any other items or different ways that he could
have itemized because i there is a part of me that wants to see this stuff work.
Everyone loves watching the tops and streams
because of this.
We love him coming back into pro play
because he's constantly shaking up
what happens in that mid lane,
so is there just a slight thing
that could've changed to be like,
okay, yeah, this is actually what...
It's Thompson with flips and flops.
And so I'm kind of down for that.
They needed a road of ethos against Tango.
Hold them in place.
The Strong Square kind of was working on paper,
but you also had Crit who bought Bongo boots
which means that they can easily run out of it.
It is a leash mechanic
and good on paper against Bango
plus Road of Athos of course
But we haven't seen them utilize those all
those things that they had in game number one unfortunately well look
lacoste i feel like i've picked your brain i've gotten all the information
there's no information left there's nothing
left there well then let's head over to something else that's empty, Purge and Fear?
As soon as Falcons won that game we wanted to sprint directly
to the Falcon HQ where we are.
What a game.
What a game.
Yeah, I mean
it's something
I would imagine
seeing in like
one of my unranked games
as the patch just came out
we've got an offlane Slark
we have a mid Void with the time zone facet, something else.
And unfortunately I was very critical of this mid Void
because I had seen it before from people playing it
and I'd never been super impressed by
it unfortunately i'm still waiting to be
impressed by it in this particular game this facet just feels like it's almost
unplayable the moment you get the boots of bearing which crit did get on a
snapfire you just press it and you can just haste
on out of the time zone yeah and there's a lot of times where they wanted to combo things
with void where it was like if you pair time zone monkey ulti hypothetically that sounds great
like but it's the same problem the Monkey King has
It always sounds great
but its really hard to set up perfectly
and there was a lot of times
because he went for Fast Gleipnir
cause they both needed a disable
so him being mid void did something
And then he needed a farming tool
so okay, he's got to get Gleipnir. But then he's just getting
chain stunned in silence and like he's got this huge
window where getting the combo off doesn't work
and it was very unfortunate
to watch if you are a topson fan which fear and myself of course
of course i mean thompson likes to cook but not every single dish you make tastes good
and unfortunately that one has got to get thrown in the trash,
mid-void with the Atos first
item which is basically what time zone
does so you're kind of doubling down
on just having that root mechanic.
Unfortunately it didn't really work out you could argue positioning possibly
but mallory he caught his number every single time just hit him with the rolling thunder before
the time zone can come out and he died before getting it off in most of fights and maybe it
could have been different,
and we maybe saw something a bit different from Tundra
if that did happen, but unfortunately wasn't the case.
Yeah, so once again, Falcons take a victory.
It was pretty one-sided by the end of it.
I mean, early game looked a little dicey for sure.
Very slow.
But they started winning fights and winning fights
and then just kind of looked one-sided towards the end
so very good for Falcons.
That's their first match of the series.
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I need that electric ride to bend this tool
To bend these rules get these tools because hate is true they're watching me the
Falcons took game number one off of Tundra Eastports there are a lot of questions around it especially that faces
void in the mid lane the faster being picked up but also just how slow it was to get online you
pretty much know every start to finish via how this one is going
to play out, so if you could just predict the whole
draft of game number two that'd be perfect
Wow! That escalated quickly
Sometimes when you see a draft
you kind of know how its's going to play out.
And I have some experience with this faceless void mid on my team
and it has never looked good.
We saw Thompson go through the protracker
He also has yet to win with it
So a lot to be desired
with that particular pick.
I know what he's going for, the idea was there,
but unfortunately that facet has too many counters
in the game right now for it to even viable.
My curiosity about players like Thompson
is,
is it actually possible
for him to just play
a standard mid?
That's what I've been asking!
And just play the game.
You know what I mean?
That's like
the funny thing is
he's obviously
an incredibly skilled player
I wonder what it is
about him.
Actually yes
he did play one game
with Sankey
remember?
Well the Sankey
I feel like Sankey
is like the ultra
broken meta mid
that like he specifically
probably has to play
to make his drafts work
because you only have
four first round bans.
But,
I feel like
he used to play Tiny
back when Tiny...
He pioneered Tiny
if you remember that one patch
that nobody was picking him and now it's like the Tiny is super broken.
How many times do we get to see Topson play Tiny?
He does not want to play what other people showed as good already
he needs to be the meta setter pretty much He needs to be the meta setter,
pretty much. He needs to create new stuff.
It's been working out for him so far,
so I don't see why he should change it.
Maybe in this... This might be
the last game, so it might be time to change it.
Maybe a little less outside the box
pretty much. I'm still fine with
Rubik mids, these type of things
It's always good to experiment but
unfortunately just facing this void mid has so many issues.
One is you don't really use a bottle that well
You don't have innate regen like a lot of heroes like Dragonite who go mid
don't buy bottles can really do
If you don't buy bracers see one for a
triple race band doesn't really help you sustain
so just gonna fall behind immediately by that and you put
zero pressure on the map and you put zero pressure on the enemy mid laner
so pango we've seen what the hero can do if he has complete free
farm as he did in the previous game just didn't work out i scratched this one go for something new
but something less cool you know it doesn't have't have to be the coolest kid in the class
you can be like second or third
Tango is also that weird spot where it's annoying enough
that you potentially want to ban it
But not high enough priority
That you should ban it, but not high enough priority that you should
ban it. Does that make sense? Yeah, it feels like
if you were to ban it first round for instance, it would be
because you don't have enough bans in the second round
for Pango plus the other heroes you also would
like banned. One thing that's really interesting about this
Falcons draft so far is, I feel like
when we watch teams win game one
then they just run it back as close
as possible. They say okay the opener was fine
let's just pick again and if we look at tundra's bands
the first two bans are the exact same as game one we have timber saw on doom yet for falcons
they banned uh rubik instead of morpling and they banned Monkey King
instead of Enigma.
So just very different,
like two different bands
that are purposely letting
the meta of this
best-of-three shift
in a way that
maybe they thought
we caught you off guard with what
you did like, we had the answer to Monkey King.
We trust that you'll be able to adjust if you pick it first again.
It's just interesting.
We don't see that very often.
I mean,
maybe they thought through the ban phase that you know they had a good answer
with the weaver right away so they figured maybe they're gonna band me from my last slot so
we don't have potential to answer for the one team in this next game, so it's going to ban it
randomly. I think that leader ban might be coming
which they would have been correct about, so
that is always nice to see. But Tundra
they're playing a hero that
you know, Thompson used to love these hero as well. I haven't seen
him play Snapfire in a little bit but
it is a hero that can go mid and be a support
just well-rounded where
Falcons are going to get their crits
but this is a game number 780 of course and just as much alone pretty much i loves
the hero for a good reason and he is from what i see from different players uh the least greedy position for hoodwink
most of the time goes for something good you know team fight oriented
he gets rid of atos instead of maelstrom first item a glimmer cape drums
whatever is necessary for his team and then he transitions into carry something that he's doing
differently than other position force and i think the biggest mistake for me from Tundra's draft was not picking up Faceless Void on 18th instead of Dark Seer.
And this is where pretty much everything crumbled for them.
The interesting part about this hoodwink
for Kredit
is that they've picked it five times
but it actually has a negative win rate
throughout this tournament he's two and three,
but his snap fire six in one so I think
that kind of says like Tundra said OK
we respect your snapfire far more than
you're going just based on how it's
gotten this tournament because I know he's played at 780 times in the last month but
this tournament he's only played five times thank you for the clarification
look these second phase bands though it's the tangle and the primal coming out here they're
not going to be left in the pool at all so thunder very aware of what mal reen has been
enjoying in the mid lane right now i I'm not saying by any means it's
limited his hero pool, there's still
plenty of options out there but that's where
their issues are deemed at the moment
that these two heroes, way too
difficult to deal with when it comes to that late game, or mid-game
even sometimes with the tempo they play.
Already here, Opal
is relatively small. I mean,
they are about to reach top
three or go out as top, but so far he only played 6 different heroes
and a lot of them are banned out.
There is still Tiny and Batrider is still in.
So two out of six.
Basically, he just has one
because I don't see bat for snapping.
That's also true.
All right.
Well, that's a Malorine hero potentially as well.
This is how they were playing at the first couple of months
over the year.
They've been flexing this Dragonite across three different roles.
It has been working out amazingly for Team Falcons.
Not as great as for other teams they
know how to do it and i think right now dragon at me
didn't see have so much success uh bibbidi-bobbidi team they were zero
and three stopped picking the hero completely but we've seen some really
good games from pure yesterday two times when dragon knight they also had
good ways of buffing him up so i want to see if this is the route that falcon
is going to take yeah it's kind of like a ranged Sven, right? It's not quite
as much damage if you play it in the carry role
but it does have the splash. I think it's 110%
splash once you
are max level on the passive and your
DK form. I feel like that DK is more reliable
than the mid-DK right now,
and I think the build of just armlet
potentially Midas
that we saw Pure go yesterday,
there's probably the aspect
of deny picking it
since Tundra is 4-0 with this hero.
The flex pick you mentioned, that aspect of it because
they've only played a once in the tournament
on Falcons. I'm banking that it's probably a carry
but the fact that it's even there
and poses the question for the other team definitely plays a role
moving forward in the draft when you have overall aspect.
Yeah, I think there's three cool reasons to pick this DK here
One is probably good versus SnapMid if that is third mid laner
gonna do pretty well there. Number two is Skeeter plays it as well,
so it is a flex we've seen Pure play before
number three is you're taking away from
Jhin right? And they already banned
Timber Doom which I think are probably his two worst side lane matchups
potentially. There might be another one
but just off the top of my head, Timber is for sure
bad and Doom doesn't sound great either so
that is already something that could be
really good for them just making sure doesn't
get it because he looks so good on it I'm sure Skeeter's bitch in the place
and Dragonite but she likes those type of heroes himself this fear-breaker
coming out this Stokes in him definitely rising we saw it be the key to some
of the success in eliminating bbt yesterday uh but earlier today falcons had an answer for they went
to the game number three with psg Quest. PSG Quest had that Spirit Breaker fold themselves,
and they were able to close it out.
So now I wonder what's still left in the pool
that was able to deal with that Spirit Breaker?
There is our hero Nat.
Nat is pumped up right now!
Yeah but Spirit Breaker again there
is still Dark Seer left in the pool
so I think this time around
Tundra on 18 should not miss the opportunity to take that hero.
Gives them auras, gives them teamfight,
gives them great laning stage with the Spirit Breaker
we've seen yesterday where you can pop the iron shell on spirit raker he goes through
the gates or charges with pps uh gets the first blood or just be like he's very active on the map
when he's paired up with that hero and i'll'll have to disagree with the Gyrocopter here,
That hero got me four games in a row
You! You!
So...I'll take it
Well I'm talking about potentially
the Skidow winrate on it
In this tournament.
Potentially, you said.
Potentially the win rate.
Well what is laning partner I think is the question
I was going to say like if we're looking for snaking heroes
it was like Enchantress, Phoenix
Io potentially but they went for making heroes. It was like Enchantress, Phoenix, Io
potentially but they went for it with the Phoenix
They don't have like the best egg protection
as of right now
Basically one stun
Yeah that's a little bit weird actually
now they mention that.
Yes, by the way
it says 33% win rate
on the Dracul stuff.
After this win
It will definitely not be
33% after this win
no matter what.
No, guys wow we're big branding it up right here well you guys
big brain did the dance so you sort of come a long way um tundra learning from their mistakes
after game number one and more than willing to pick it up here
And not risking being banned in the next phase. Yeah, I mean this Dark Spirit hero
Even though they picked it yesterday in a lane matchup that shouldn't be good with Anguissa Ursa
Right? Also not on good lane versus a Gyrocopter.
But they just value the combination
more than anything. Spirit Breaker
this is a hero you kind of need to enable
to have a good game and whether you have a good lane
matchup or not I think you've just got to make it zero work because Spirit Breaker can't carry the game for you.
For sure! If you mentioned Ursa, I want to see that hero on Thundra.
It makes a great match up against Gyro, great against Dragonite.
Have another egg hitter.
I don't think it survives the next banning phase.
You know heroes also
are really good
versus the heroes
on Falcons, Lacoste?
Which one?
Terrorblade.
No!
I don't know if we want to go that or at least I don't want to see him.
Terrorblade used so Darkseer and terrorblade used to be hard
hard countersight DK.
They're still like, but the illusions
of DK no longer get the benefits
of his ult, so it's not like
in the past, DK being in the same game
as Darkseer basically meant that Darkseer
had all the benefits of DK,
the ags, the slow, the control.
But one thing I want to say about
the Dark Seer-Spearbreaker combo
not only is it like a good lane combo
you talk about the on-channel rotations
but when you think of the macro part of the game, Spearbreaker struggles
when the enemy groups up and Darkseer
struggles when the enemy splits. So
these heroes cover each other's weaknesses
really well later in the game so it gives
a strong laning duo active in the mid game uh dark seer can be
left alone early so spear breakers love like to roam it's just two peas in a pod and we were very
surprised that teams are kind of giving up,
not giving up but picking Dark Seer and Spirit Breaker less
because there's something we saw earlier in this tournament
much synergy between these two heroes.
I still think Zandra has like coming into the last pick on their side
they still have a couple of really good options
seeing that Doom is banned
I really like Troll against all these heroes
and I think maybe Pure's Morphling could come out
because right now there aren't many answers.
There isn't that explosive damage that Morphing doesn't like to play into,
sure they still have one more pick after that but it might...
You like Alch? that but it might missed you like elk i think it's pretty good yeah it can work i'm leaning towards
troller morphing on their side just based on the player itself i think
taller more things more likely.
But a hero that we haven't mentioned is Birdmother so yeah it's just Morphling.
Good call Lacoste!
It's definitely good versus Gyro Carry. We've seen before.
I think it was XGWBG
that ran in versus Falcons
and I will confidence themselves
won by game so
that is still tried and true they are
limited on iron chill Chill type of targets
right now, so it's just mainly
Darkstar himself and the Spirit Breaker
so that's somewhat concerning
but we'll have to see here as Amar
does get a free pick for the offlane now since I was going to come
up. Very neutral on that one, like I don't feel like it owns this game in any type of
way you have a lot of hard lockdown from the Spearbreaker,
but I guess that's just about it.
If the Spearbreaker gets dealt with,
the Stampede will save you and I think more so
the laning stage he should be totally fine
against. Or maybe they wanted something to disengage the big combo
from Popsun, Vacuum into wall with the Sprintbreaker charge
Mortimer's Kisses
but there is Popsun again that keeps you in place, synergizes well with Tark's here.
And I think this Phoenix pick could have been something different on Falcons.
I'm going to lean towards Thunder on this one.
I think they have four heroes who can keep them very busy until Morphling feels safe to come online.
I see no reason why Amar is not going to be the number one net worth by like 500,000 gold in minute 10
or he owns on these type of heroes and I feel like what the actual reason for the Centaur is,
other than the disengage,
is the fact that you needed someone
to help your team kill this Snapfire
because if this Snapfire scales with that Ricochet facet,
they didn't have an easy way
to get on top and deal damage.
So the Centaur provides them with that actually,
but the Centaur offers them I think Amar is going
to have an absolute free game
And I don't think I've ever bet against Falcons
when those two things are the case
so I'm gonna go with Falcons here just because of Amar.
I mean, Topson's not playing Faceless Void,
so I'll give him this one.
That was it.
That was purely your condition
is play a slightly more meta or quote-unquote normal mid and T Tundra you've got my vote.
Yep, that's it.
Alright.
Simple man.
Simple man.
Then the same question Sia that you had at the end of game one is this tempo?
Are they matching are they matching?
Are they going to be pacing
the same way for these two teams
or is there a certain window
from Falcons
that Tundra can try and close out?
I mean, the Simplar definitely
is going to be a problem
but I also think
the Dark Seer should have
relatively okay lane
and the Snapfire
should have a free lane.
I'm not impressed
by the mid DK right now,
so it's going to happen
to gameplay,
I think more than
the fix here,
but I'm definitely
more excited
to see the Snapfire have a better game
and Thompson participate in this one.
Alright, you guys have
somewhat convinced me.
I do like that we have as even
as we can get when it comes to three panelists here split
between the fountain draft and the thunder drop look it's a best of
three it's four elimination here right now these two teams are sitting in top
four but they obviously want to be able to get a win here.
They want to make it to top three. They want to be
able to play on Grand Finals day
tomorrow on our Sunday.
It's one step in the right
direction at least and we're waiting a little bit here because
we want to head on down to purge and our falcons coach ali hey how was the draft for you
um i think it was overall pretty good.
We got the heroes that we wanted and we sort of knew what heroes they were going to pick
so just comes down mostly to execution.
How do you beat this death ball strat with all the Auris and things like that?
You spread them apart try to pick them off
get gold advantage?
Yeah I think a lot of it is making sure they can't reach your timing
A lot of deathball strats you have to beat in the lane
Obviously we lost two times to gliders doing the same thing
so we had some time to review it and hopefully
we learned from our mistakes those games.
Alright well thank you and good luck on your match.
Thank you.
A little bit of insight from one of the smartest men in Dota on how to deal with some of the meta of this tournament.
But we'll see if Falcons have indeed learned from their losses previously against the Gladiators.
We'll see how they fare against Tundra
who are hitting a bit of
their M.O.. They've got the Dark Seer
Spirit Breaker again, Avery.
It is a deadly combination.
This Tundra draft,
it looks a lot more solid
for them this time around.
The synergy is easily there.
Pure is on one of his signatures
for the tournament
and they're looking to strike back
in that mid game hard.
They have a bit more scaling as well, I think
to go back to if it really comes to it
if the game slows down like it did in that game one
this falcon trap though can kind of dominate the lanes
so I can definitely see the DK free farming mid, pushing it in against
the snap with the Corrosion.
You have a Centaur Elastic that should
free farm versus Chen Ling who's
not that good at dealing with him over the long run.
It's a hero that generally wants to win the lane through attrition and regen, Centaur always out-regen you. And on
the flip side maybe the most volatile lane, that Phoenix Gyro... I could see
that going either way but generally it's two ranged heroes
and you have one with flak that can press plane into the
darks here. So you should also be fine
there for your Falcons. I think what AUI said is
on point if you want to kind of beat these lineups
that just are presenting a super strong mid game behind an oral offlaner,
then you need to come out ahead on the laning phase at least and exert some pressure somewhere so they can't beat you
to those timings. Yeah for me I'm very concerned
that Tundra lose the lanes
and their Dragonite just
gives them a 10,000 net worth lead by
taking all of their towers. Definitely possible
if they fall behind. It really does come down
to execution here in the first 10 minutes.
So all the more important that you get off
to a good start in the first fight,
and they'll back away not wanting to give up first blood
but will give up rebounding as a result. So you want to see
if your Falcons start to build this lead early
and start to build it
hard.
It's just a question of how much you can get done here.
I really do like the lane setup setup i think the hoodwink
centaur is a kill combination as well i think tundra's gonna suffer dealing damage to these
centaur but i think there's also some kill threat potentially snag a morphling
killing the signing phase maybe one or two on the
Chen here. That would be the Cherry on top
and then you can start to rotate
into mid for this Dragon Knight.
That's going to be the focal point of this early game.
Can you bring Ganks to the DK
or does Mauling just find the ability to pressure
the tower on his own because at some point this dk will out regen you on the snap and the dragon
form is kind of tough for topsonicking test unless he hits level six first
you can just kill the dk with the early mortimer's kisses yeah and like a spearbreaker game that
could happen as well and i think that's uh that's the part. So, I think Dark Seer Spirit Breaker at that lane really needs to go well
because then the Spirit Breaker is in turn going to win the lanes for everybody else,
including a charge like you're talking about to set up the kisses but
also maybe an ion shell you know like tp play or go through the gate
uh to gank this safe lane as well that's been kind of tendrous mo with this nine class spearbreaker
generally the darks Lanes have gone well
this tournament. Ramzes have been top
1-2 net worth a lot of those games
even with this breaker support
who goes to the boots first. A little greedy
but ends up working out for them. Makes the gank a lot easier on mid if you
do win this all plane so far he's looking okay but it is too much damage it is too much for him man that
that's gonna hurt that's not just first blood but also he missing out on a few creeps they
push in the tower as well ramsay's getting chased down dies, but then Falcons end up walking into tower range.
Skeeter takes some decent damage back
and all this is happening while the Spirit Breaker
is cutting away.
So as long as Ramesses doesn't die, he will be the beneficiary of a full creepway
white ball might be in trouble here well not gonna commit the stun okay it doesn't want to relieve
too much pressure from the morphphling and early Bottle
Apple Tops
enough to kill
will instantly get
Water Rune Regen
straight back up.
Kind of a surprising
kill, not one I would
have expected there
but I guess that is
the strength of
not having to faceless ward there
yeah hero that can actually do damage and get killed
a great hero to get a kill on the Dragonite. Now, this
Dragonite was a
menace earlier in
the patch. It went
away for a while. We used to have this time where
it was just mid-Dragonite all the time with this corrosive
facet and it would just take all these towers and he would get an agonist at some point in
time and just scale up what happened the corrosion did get nerfed a little bit and i think the way the meta went with people
grouping really fast i think dk can be a little low damage sometimes so if you're not dominating
the mid lane and snowballing off the towers he feels kind of
bad just fighting all these auras like these brewmaster dark seers thunderlords it's all
kind of only yeah here going forward with the wave form damage on his way back he might live but
taking some punishment for that you get skiers courier up top that's a pretty nice one to pick
up give him some extra gold across the board here at now Thompson.
Pulling ahead decently here
with the first blood gold, plus some extra courier
plus water regen.
Got bruised in this lane
and is likely going to get the six first.
Which means you do have that
charge into Kiss's kill opportunity
which would be really big
to snag here before Maureen comes
online. And if they start getting ahead,
the damage problems for Dragonite
are going to wrap up, right? Because they have
Dark Seer, they have Spirit Breaker,
they have Snapfire when you're ahead,
you actually do become decently tanky
itemorphically.
And then you have
Chen Heal on top of
all of that like this
entire lineup from
Tundra could get
really tanky.
Maybe that's where
the hood ring comes in give you a little extra damage to push it through.
But generally if the Chen is snowballing more than the hoodling can find the pick offs then you struggle as well.
Yeah. off then you struggle as well yeah they will have some uh percentage-based
damage from the phoenix that'll certainly become effective over time
you can't just leave atf alone down. The benefit of the Centaur pick is he's completely untouchable for this Warp Chenling, so...
As a result, the HUD wager is gonna try and gank mid.
Topson doesn't have Bookie,
He does have a lot of Wand charges that might just bail him out,
and now Kredi's going to be slowed down though
and Topson can't really chase so it's up to Whitemon
to do it with these two creeps.
Yeah he's just gonna get this solo.
In fact with the charge coming in they could do
really good damage to Maureen
Maureen has to run back the other direction otherwise he was
going to get blocked up by the neutrals
With the Ion Shell on 9 class
it would have added up to be too much damage
I like that move from Whitemon.
I don't think he would do anything
to Ascentar bottom instead,
he chases the Hoodling,
gets the defensive turnaround play mid
snags some extra golden XP for himself
find some impact on the map right here with a low level gen
not always easiest to do so lanes kind of i mean these two sidelines going falcons way
i expected that a bit but i thought this mid lane
would go better for maureen so far thompson's been dominating and is closing in on that six
very pivotal point in his lane with the catapults up.
Yeah, if he gets six off of this catapult
which I think is enough experience
Oh yeah, they're looking for this kill.
They're going to charge. The tower has no protection
either because the Chin army can come in and take up the tower,
And their Spirit Breaker is great at diving.
They know this is coming. They're going to pop the Glove already but it might be too late!
The Kisses are going to be stopped by Krizz so So he was well positioned, hits the bushwhack
to stop Topson
They manage to deter that and take
the power rune away! Now Smeking
might have given up his life to do so
Oh never mind Bushwack in 9 never mind bush the one to die very fair for that and just outplayed him
straight up better positioning they had that ward that did a lot of work scouting the supports
did get d ward in the middle of that but that worked its job prevented
that kisses kill from going off and buys mauritian a lot of time here.
Dragon Tail, Bushwhack, okay now coming out onto two well-timed by Kripp waits it out gets the extra disable they'll get the kill onpson and some damage on nine class to go
go for the diving for it
that was close that acorn man hey does something i think those damage meanwhile skater gets the kill on ramsey
and he's gonna go for it he's gonna go for it he's gonna get it oh we got him
oh what a big play.
He's out.
Oh, and he charges away before...
Oh man, that was perfect.
What a massive swing in this game.
I mean, that is the definition of active carry gameplay right yeah
like you could go Flack some jungle preach but this man just accomplished maybe the most
in the last two minutes and entirely on his own refusing to give ramses these creeps
steals wisdom room forces double support rotation now denies xp from the chen of
the breaker who you know we're having a pretty good early game here.
Would have really enjoyed it.
Huge boost for Falcons' early game off that Gyrocopter.
Not in the best position network-wise, but make it to play.
Spirit Breaker is going to be really underleveled in particular
because he's given a lot of room for Dark Seer to operate and will pick up the skill on Sneaking though
Nobody can really sit up here I think anymore now that the Chen is going to be operating in this jungle.
See if Falcons decide to rotate up here and defend this tower,
This would be a high HP tower to just give up casual right-foots here.
You do have Gyro who'd like to fight around this putt give up the casual right-foots here.
You do have Gyro who would like to fight around this, but your supports
are pretty low level and it would probably require
the Dragon Knight coming up here who doesn't want him.
Yeah, if he's a dragon knight I'd just rather try
and take midtown. Which is what's happening right now he's pushing it in
has dragon form up starting to chip away at this so now tundra you have to decide if
you want to come defend against this corrosive breath probably not again you got the commit that breath. Probably not.
Again, you'd have to commit the Darkseer here
who doesn't really want to leave this top area of the map.
So this will be a freebie for Maureen
and of course his bottom power
eventually gets chipped a little bit depending on how much pure decides he can
stand on this lane it's going to be you got the kill on pure with it.
That hurts me.
He didn't, he got that without level 6 On the hoodwink so...
Yeah he just bushwhacked him into acorn chop plus stampede
Run on top of the morph lane.
And that was enough to burst it down as he was half HP here.
Super heads up call from Crit.
And, I mean, what a find in this early game.
Falcons making some nice plays on these sidelines to even out this early game.
Nightglass is not going to find level 6 mid lane.
Instead he'll only find death.
Another great rotation from crit absolutely finding his moments in this first 10 minutes yeah he's killing it five to three falcons up by 1k.
Now you're missing this mid tier one, it's kind of annoying for Topson to try and push it in
And maybe threaten the DKs tower or look for those kisses kills slowed his early
game down a lot as ATF continues to free farm so there's kind of this centaur
ticking time bomb, for lack
of a better word. You get this
Blink Blade Mail with Triple Bracer up, he's gonna
be an absolute beast in the early fights.
I'm just gonna be looking for him.
Snake King continuing to take power runes away from Tundra.
That is brutal!
Two rune stops and would is used really well.
Another little victory here, and this will mean that you know Snakey he can sit mid now
He's not threatened by the Haze Spoon Dive which means extra XP for the Phoenix
Which'll gate him over the threshold to level six very likely
something that nine class is struggling to do
2 000 hp on this man at 10 minutes
panel did say marvin's gonna be free for him
i like to move from ballroom just get this tower down exert some pressure on it the centaur wasn't
doing it on his own do you have to be a little careful about tundra bringing a bunch of heroes
down here he's not gonna commit for it what was surprising i feel like if you see four showing on the lanes
you can you can keep going for that chip especially with the stampires showing right
i just don't think they have the damage to deal with a Dragonite unless it involves...
No way. There's no way. You have to bring the Dark Seer or the Snap, and you saw
both of them on the lanes. But we'll play
it safe. Go back to the triangle and do a bit of farming
uh skeeter is the one who's kind of been relegated to this poor portion of the map
but we have seen him come back with this gyro more often than not
yeah i think that's the only part about falcon's game they maybe aren't the happiest one dry popter is not ahead of any course
so great for a bar and maureen is taking objectives like he should but
the jungle is getting crowded out here with the
chen taken over this area they're going to punish him beautiful centaur stop the charge on through
on the two of them this is looking not bad for tundra just the two but they don't have
anybody else that's helping out.
They're going to pop the Supernova and chase down the Chen.
That was
an insane Storm Micro
from White Bomb, but it cannot fail him out
and they're going to lose a bigger prize in mid as once more crit
making the plays here snag topson with maureen in that mid lane starting to build the leading
that whole time that's happening, your Centaur finally accomplishes
the long-awaited task of taking
this Tier 1 bottom. That is Blink Dagger
done for APF here on top of Triple
Bracer, Blade Mail, almost level 11.
No, he wants a tournament drop. I was was like he's got enough gold
he's got enough farm he's gonna go and make this uh one of those deathless
games he's just going to full grade it up
and exist and never die. Yeah, this is a scaling
move. It says I don't need
to run around and try and make some crazy blink plays
that might succeed or fail. I am just going
to play for my
strongest points become invincible.
I mean, it's a very good
Eternal Shroud.
No way around it.
Yeah, they do not have
good sources of physical damage
for quite some time
on Tundra.
It's just going to be a whole lot
of magic damage. They're gonna make a move
for him. Yeah, it's
good that they are bringing four
heroes for it
and there's also no stampede so they'll get the gift
all right it takes everybody here and that's without the eternal shroud
now imagine he had the internal strategy still an important
kill to snag slow him down do not let that sent our two or three k ahead here and he was getting
to that point buys a lot of space for the morphine as well to continue to farm down here
king's top says somebody take these waves nine class will do his duty turbo rain streak to
collect purple rain streak to collect
47 reaching a little bit of a slower part here so next round of wisdom roots are going to spawn tundra don't want to miss out on this
already experienced starts enough they've got the pipe done on ramses
is that enough that you want to make a move
or are you still killing you just don't have an issue it's kind of awkward
to just try and force this mid-power i think you kind of awkward to just try and force this mid tower i think you kind
of have to keep farming
i think your biggest move in this game as thunder is taking roshan
with the the chen army plus penitents, plus drum
charge or whatever. Get an Aegis on this
warpling. Otherwise I think you're
just pushing waves out
What is this army he has?
Four Warpine Raiders.
Is he going to show up
in some team fight
and cast four seed shots
and they're just all
going to bounce around
and annihilate falcons dragon tail into the supernova nine
class fails to get the kill on the opposing sport
how weird interaction he
nether struck him on the dive which meant he bashed him forwards
i only got to see that one before.
This game is broken man, sometimes I think this games just busted.
Yeah it is, a ton! That's what Dota's about.
Breaking. Pinecone army has been assembled.
Time to fight. This is the time...
That is not gonna work why do you think that i mean he had eight toes into it but stampede always bails you out on
that type of thing yeah i. I guess Stampede's down
now so he can make a slow play.
Oh, that's a good point actually.
Now hopefully they're able to win that fight
without... oh! They got way back
to the Skeeter. Dragontail trying to stop this aggression.
They're going to get off a good ultimate from
Skeeter but he will ultimately die.
Acorns are bouncing around.
Nineclot's gonna die underneath this.
They still have the wall that falcons pass through gear chasing after tundra
all right big daddy centaur's here i don't think you want to fight into this dragonite illusion it
hurts yeah how long do you want to play in a centaur who's not an illusion that guy's got 3000
he is not your friend true but you don't have to throw the shots at him teach him who's boss
i can't get over this.
Four Warpine Razors, he's keeping them alive!
And they do farm very fast.
You could honestly just keep them in a side lane and cut every wave.
It'd be pretty obnoxious.
I don't know if that's what you want to do with your waves on the map, but it is an option.
Sanjh and Yasha for the Morphling.
So no Manta for Fire Spirit Dispel.
Downside here, no Manta for Dodging some Ruin spells.
Better for the instant initiation of Dragon Tail
than to follow up with Sables, right? Yeah.
And a lot
of mana uptake this tower
under eventually claim what they wanted
here, even out that mid lane advantage.
9th class, he has a shadow mid lane advantage
thank class he has a shadow amulet but he will not be able to hide from
falcons this roach for the falconers in
this game
it's not gonna be easy yeah they have a lot of heroes here and
it's yeah not the fastest roach for falcons that's what they are angling for
there's one of those roaches
I don't think it feels good to do as Falcons
but it feels good to take away from Thunder
so it's probably worth it in the end
but it is rather slow
yeah, that's one of those fights where you say you are strong It is rather slow.
Yeah, it's one of those fights that you are strong enough
Tundra just can't really contest you.
They do your walking
into a supernova behind it.
Well, I mean if you could get the warp iron over there
the seed shot bounces in the bit would be absolutely nasty yeah just throwing seed all over
okay they're making a move.
You are going for the Centaur and Stampede running back!
Oh no now the Bushwack on it too!
Charge on through after crit you're still chasing for heroes while Skeeter's getting some good black-handed shots off
and killed Thompson, and Tundra is on the run now.
That is just not the target you want to initiate on.
3,000 HP
Centaur monstrosity
with Eternal Shroud resistance
With a level 4 Sunray on him?
Yeah, you committed a lot on that Centaur and it was
not enough
End up paying the price with thompson's life
but now falcons are going to start to farm out the map still have that ages intact as well
maybe if they waited just a little bit
and Falcons committed to going through the gate
the other side of that
would have been good
I just have no vision on any of that
so hard to read
that situation
you do have your Chen so hard to read that situation.
I mean, you do have your Chen neck and hand at God,
like in theory this five-man fight
is pretty decent for you.
But having some damage issues right now.
Kira's trying to solve that...
He's going Crystallis...
Expecting Conda build, I guess? Maybe! expecting con to build i guess maybe maybe just gonna be some dataless right click field feels
like they just need a really fast ramp up here to bring down these heroes.
That'd be interesting.
Link is done on Amar, so he's got it all now not the most farm here in the game
but he is very close and a very strong anchor to fight around here for falcons they already have level two supernova up as well so if you can land some good hoof stomps into the supernova and protect it with
some of your other stunts it's gonna be quite good though falcon's jump on a crate crit he's gonna shoot himself down to the low ground
nice play but skeeter that is a big kick if they can just get it and get out but
they don't actually take away take away that Aegis.
He's gonna use to re-engage.
Maul Reign looking for his target.
Game quite close.
Dragonforum fails out,
but that's fine.
They're already in a good position
to be able to win this,
It seems like. Pulled back into the vacuum actually.
White Moth doesn't die! The heels are going through! A charge that is beautiful from 9 Class bumping into all three cores
took two of them down. Now on the second line, Skeeto's gonna come back and he is locked into a gyrocopter
that is full-on flackin' ready to go.
It's warpling is strong now.
That Crystalis timing really paid off.
He gets the Flak hits in two. Crystal's timing really paid off.
He gets the Flak hits in two.
Morph is a problem in teamfights if you're not starting on him and
draining his damage away, Supernova cannot bail you out of those
situations, he can even get the Phoenix on
the back and Pyrrha dealing
almost 6k damage.
Just put the fight on his shoulders, and the Auras
did their job there for Tundra as they bailed him out of
the initiation. This is sometimes
a problem with Centaur.
You can be insanely tanky
and if they go on you,
you're happy about it
but if they don't focus you...
Are you big enough
to threat in the fight
to actually win it?
Yeah, like...
Actually, Falcons having the damage
damage problems here they couldn't kill
white mom got him forever
pipe goes off
you also don't have tk form here and
maureen was very low resources.
Put himself in kind of an insane spot for how little he was able to tank.
And of course you don't have any DK keys or or anything to tank the spell damage so Thunder's
team fight is still very strong.
Hero's gonna get abused if he ever gets this gyro steal.
The barrages are nice, the flak cannons are nice.
They're starting to pick up some pace and scale here.
His item choice... that Crystal has paid off something.
Like the fact he almost soloed the Gyarocopter right away in that fight
And then later on gets this you know turns into a gyro copter gets his black cannon he's gonna get data very very soon i like
this this makes a lot of sense to me i don't think he's under a lot
of pressure or being bursted.
He has Auras
to bail him out.
It's a lot of sustain,
which means he can play
on lower HP
for longer in the fights
just rely on the heals
and just deal the deeps
and that is what
Tundra need right now.
These supports are in range
of the Flak Cannon?
They're going to die.
It's going to be like sneaking
forced at Supernova early, which he doesn't want to do.
But Gyrocopter cannot stand toe-to-toe against this Morkling
And it's going to be a good while until he has the chance to do so it's satanic is nowhere in sight
also let them hit buildings pretty efficiently here 300 damage of pop
here with some extra rally boost.
Bush is strong right now for Tundra, this what their line up's designed to do
put the Morphin on the front line
back him up with all the team fight
dare Falcons to go into them.
Falcons were willing too early
with this Centaur but at this's not enough of a damage threat.
And an early high ground.
No Aegis.
Still going to test it out.
They did get Falcons to TPpee back they don't know everything though
mark pops out tundra has to read him situation now so they back away
it feels like tundra are pretty
far ahead, even if this network is even
a lot of it is on
the Falcon supports, but I don't know how much that's actually
going to do in the fight. If this morphine just gets
to play his game,
you have to worry about this fear breaker darks your common fight if this Morphling just gets to play his game.
You have to worry about the Spearbreaker-Darkseer combination as well,
a Dragon Knight illusion,
the Flak hits going off,
Thompson's in the middle of it all too,
just raining down spell damage
and he's barely tanking.
We see these illusion spells
be a good answer to the Dragonite.
I think the Shattered Demon
even before we lost that game
definitely showed
a little bit of promise.
The Starks here has routinely been
a good choice. Amar,
Thompson puts himself in the front.
Amar is going to try for it. The black-handed shots start
coming in but the heels will keep thompson alive for now
too much to punch through here for falcons and pure pushing the limits did he go too far yeah
he definitely went too far into charge it's gonna's going to bail him out, but they are
gonna be caught a little bit. The final
kiss came in does not kill
Pritt now they're on the run Tundra trying
to get out more flak cannon shots a missile
charging after them Thompson deals with that one.
But Ramsey's who gave away his Surge to somebody else
is going to be left behind trying
to get him the cookie now another Surge
but Dragontail hits him right after that.
And the Missile goes to the Chen army to get the missile goes to the Chen army
to get the Yul's
on the Chen,
stopping that TP instead.
Pure went too far.
He doesn't take
the punishment for it.
His team does.
Yeah, his team paid
for his sins there
and he was dead 100% with that Wait, he's team dunked. Yeah, his team paid for his sins there.
And he was dead 100% with that Centaur Stomp coming through if it did not get interrupted with the charge-through.
So Tundra bail out their carry,
but an expensive bailout here as they lose three and shift the momentum back towards falcons who
surprised they were able to get two more on that chase down didn't feel like they had
the reach or the catch there but able to make it work. This is an interesting charge.
He does have Shadow Blade, so he can make it.
Yeah?
And you know Nightglass, the way he was playing Nyx,
he was definitely doing that like,
yeah, I'm down to trade one for one every single time
oh we got him he got him now can he tpl do a little squirrel or maybe just run around
until charges back up oh man they're keeping back for everything they're not gonna get for everything. They're not going to get him.
They're trying to hit it with a Dragon Tail.
And the Stun
Goose is going to get him.
Alright. Well, I mean he pulled a lot of heroes
back here and still traded one for one i did not see the four staff
on maureen but it actually works there going hurricane pike mageslayer kind
of a weird build-up for this dk honestly yeah Yeah, very low damage. I mean
we talked about Pure's
Dragonite and how he was able to scale up
because it didn't have to build any tank
just pure damage. This is
a very different kind of build way utility focused yeah
very front line centric gonna be trying to be more of a nuisance
and win the longer fight than just man fight the morphling i mean mage slayer is interesting here if you can hit the snap
fire of the dark seer you do eliminate a lot of their damage output you're gonna
be able to tank here on the front line you don't have to go earlier bkb here
what's to go earlier bkb here
looks a little weird now robo definitely helps no more it's not playtime i mean these falcon supports are doing some work in this game.
Crit did a lot of the heavy lifting early and Snake King,
he is finding a lot of farm on this Phoenix,
doing a lot of damage in the fights with his Sunray
and this Eul's has caught the breaker at least two or three times now.
That being said, Tundra with their Daedalus timing on Morphling still feel maybe stronger?
If they can steal the gyro
and get the team fight
that they're looking for,
yeah I think they're
still a little bit stronger.
The next set of items
are starting to be built up
by Falcons
and all three of their cores
are in a very solid position.
You can't underestimate
how tanky they are collectively
and how good they are
in a very long fight.
I think they're going to hit
that snap-fire core valley that we talked about you know where it's like the magic
damage has started to fall off and you don't have the physical damage talents yet level 20 and 25.
yeah thompson is not on the stronger side of all these cores in
the current fight. The Aegis might help them weather
through that valley but Falcons is getting close
Are they going to dive into the pits?
Pure popping out
deals with the wards goes back in to commit and will get the Aegis. Now Falcons...
Are they going to retreat or still try and take a fight around this area? Looks like retreat for now.
There's no reason to fight and potentially more vision there.
Might be willing to take a fight somewhere else.
High class.
He chases up the high ground, that's bold.
Spot snaking, almost
got him on the nether strike.
Well, you can keep
rocking this Daedalus timing then.
A second life? You already said you could be
full damage on the Morphling because
you have all these Chen auras and Dark Seer
auras and stuff to back you up. A second life
just means even more aggression can come out
from here. But will that aggression snap back on his team like the last
time he went for it who's way plugged in i mean how much do you commit to this push right now
you're hitting a really strong point feels like falcons might still like a little bit of the damage but if
you can't actually force the high ground then you need to think about how much
you're getting off the map relative to these cores who are split pushing you
and it's a quick smoke from falcon trying to take advantage of these heroes that went back
to the other side. Very heads up play if they find something.
Problem is this Spirit Breaker is charged away. Normally you would say that Chen,
you can catch up with him but Whitemond was
smart enough to be the first one out of the situation.
The one
with no mobility is the first
one to leave. I. Still catch Thompson around mid
tough go
They see him, Maureen goes back
for it, the rest of Falcons not sure
Meanwhile Spirit Breaker has caused to falcons it's not true meanwhile spirit breaker is causing havoc to your map state charging down waves the same thing
is going to be happening on another lane with the Darkseer or the Chen.
There's a lot of ways for them to just
kick in creep waves without getting
caught.
You are taking up, though. Like you got double
Hurricane Pipe between the Gyro Dragonite and you finish this
Crimson Guard on the Centaur, that's a lot more
HP for Pure to chunk through.
This Crimson on the Centaur is also scaling a lot
better so
I don't know what that damage walk is going to end up being,
but it is strong.
Crimson on Ramsey's to match him here.
Stampede fights initiation
on the dark steer.
Waveform forward from pure, immediate Eul's!
A charge comes- it's beautiful back he walled though! They keep the Dark Seer alive
long enough a Supernova goes out and there is pure damage all pure as able to actually take out the supernova
loses life though. Topson chasing after, shoots him down from the skies,
just needs a little bit more damage, loses sight of him,
he blinks away right before the waveform tags him!
Maureen dukes it out of them,
and Amar will continue with the strong Sektar that cannot be touched. Double edge
after double edge, Thompson comes back for the kill that he missed out on the first time won't
get Maury goes through Skeeter cookie attempt into a hurricane pipe
stops that one, pushes him back and away
from the kill. Thompson
misses Maureen, misses
Skeeter. Falcons outplay both
They just outskilled them in that fight, no way around it
and ATF his damage has come online, that shard
pickup right before that fight
so damn good
here he ends up being level 20
as a result deals over 8,000 damage.
He had over 6,000 HP there.
No way you can turn on him.
Just landed some massive double-edged stomps in the middle of all that.
Even though your Supernova goes down,
it gets the job done there with double sunray
as tundra were just burning under that vacuum wall that did him no favors
and the blink from mauling was the cherry on top there falcons take a lead in this game
of a big team fight win trying to angle for this next roshan and keep everybody
all their important cores alive perhaps the biggest victory there.
Now we reach that point where you said Falcons
is getting tanky
enough that Thompson can't
come close to one-shotting anybody.
His little shredder's damage
is falling off a bit.
Pure has too many things
that he needs to hit. We saw the Supernova
that he was able to address, but
ultimately that was all
he could get killed. And this Nullifier
on the DK is gonna be effective
because there are no BKBs on the side of tundra you throw this on the morph
lane or somebody you're initiating on you can't surge them away can't force him away and there's
a lot of four staffs up on falcons. They have double Hurricane Pike
plus four stab
on the Hoodwink Sluts,
triple four stab
you kind of have to deal with
which it's a lot
for the Morphling
to get through.
You're going to wait
for him onto somebody
if you get Hurricane Pikes
at that point
which you can't prevent
because you don't have BKB
then how do you get back
into the center of that engagement?
Definitely some potential
to Falcon just kite
Plunger out right now.
It seems like they've
kind of hit it on both ways in that they will have the four
stats to prevent anyone from being single target bursted and then they have the nullifier which
will allow them to single-targetch auras or anything like that.
All these buffs are just going to get
taken away. And they're smoking up
looking for it. Feels like you
need BKBs now on these Tundra cores
while you commit to the fight?
But it'll be
satanic for the Morphling
if you're just looking to tank up, play
the longer game.
They also need
some anti-healing, right?
And so that means Chivas.
That means Scotty.
Need these Snapfire talents too.
Yeah.
Real bad.
It's the Valley.
They need like a solid 10 minutes to come back online and be able to weather through this storm,
a Satanic picked up by Pure.
Nine class charging forward. Glitules it's gonna come back down in big trouble stuns are going to be raining in supernova on top or excuse me sunray
on top of that is all that's needed. They'll be able to get that one
You're going in! I don't think
you want to challenge the Centaur
It's just a hero with too much HP
Nice Force Down. Down to low ground. Grinit's gonna
charge up though. A Vac vacuum that hits the Dragonite from
the high ground they try and beat him down but more Force Staffs and his Supernova
cover their retreat. Falcons using the mobility very well
to their advantage got a buyback on a 9-class loss,
nothing for it. The Kiting
just controlling when and where the fight
happens right now. They're going to go back to it
even though they do not have
a wall, they are still going to try and take the fight
with the Supernova being on cooldown here,
they'll catch up to Maddox and get him.
Very good bash there.
Seal staking's fate.
No shenanigans And can you just start the push one here that's
almost catching him good hurricane pike
thompson shoved him into that one, and now Thompson is sitting underneath the tier 3
almost shot in the head of G-Stone.
That'll help them quite a bit.
Black cannon shots.
Watch out for those.
Cure?
In the background?
Crit's going to be okay everyone's gonna survive
through that from now but oh not amarr the one person i thought was going to
be fine against that got absolutely chunked here.
Some of you are just taking a rex!
That turned awfully quick, Tundra will get
A full lane off this and maybe more
They still have time where they have this Jarkopter Flak Cannon
shot.
Waste them on the tier 3 Falcons
come back in for a poke
with the Phoenix
should be able to threaten here pretty well and force them off this middle lane.
So they won't be forced to use a buyback on Amarr but...
A die-block on the Spirit Breaker!
A lane of barracks achieved. Roshan coming up
soon.
Falcons did not
respect the damage
output from this
Morphling.
ATF thought he
was invincible,
got proven
otherwise.
Now Topps
able to snag
a wisdom rune.
That is a huge rune for him to steal here you really want that level 20 25 they're gonna get them both yeah oh wow he's big win yeah he's going to
get very close to 20 off of this this is the the scaling in the Tundra lineup, it's
the Snapfire Talons coming
into this late game can
decimate this Falcons lineup particularly if you don't
get the big armor items online
If you don't get to an AC or a shivos between the dragon knight and the centaur at
some point ramsay's really gonna feel it stacked up the agents for him that gets him to 20.
so now we have the multi-shot more aoe damage for the uh the sapphire obviously big one is when you
get to level 25 but bkp would also go a long ways since way since Thompson just they keep on trying to jump Thompson
and a lot of times it seems to work but he has BKB that puts him close to like 4 000 hp
his goal mark or is definitely helping him out 4,000 HP. Yeah, his Golem Arm
is definitely helping him out. Oh yeah,
that's where it's at. That is a juicy one.
Scotty done for pure.
Yeah, he
had that Satanic.
Won that mid-fight, took that lane of barracks and then almost had a full out
Scotty afterwards. That timing is just
insane. He is tanky and he does some serious damage
and he's not relying on a BKB here.
Nemesis Curse is going to give him the extra single target boost.
That item
is gross.
This is
a power point for Tundra right now.
Need to make the most of this.
Begging for
this Roshan spawn.
Gonna look for the teamfight after, bring down these
big tanky frontliners before they get jumped.
Halberd on ATF should point
that out. Very important item for this this fight you're guaranteed a disarm
on this morphling no dispel here it's true so four, halberds...
More problems for Pure if Falcons are set up for the fight.
But if Tundra gets the initiation like they did-
This halberd could really ruin him
because he goes
in the fight to try and kill a supernova slain,
this Morphin gets disarmed. It might
just be his death.
He's also a Ranger, so it's five seconds.
That's a long time
for Tundra to be lacking
the Morphling's damage.
This might be
the most pivotal item
in this next fight.
ATF can put it to use.
In theory it's pretty reliable dude okay so satanic is that a turning point for gyrocopter this matchup against morph though because i feel like so many times he's like waveformed
and he just almost instantly goes down to like half hp and just has to run will that allow him
to be able to do a bit better against this morphling you think the
morphing's damage is just too intense i mean skitter does have almost 4 000 hp
i think he needs dados with the satanic to really feel more secure but
even if he just stays alive long enough that
the rest of his team can win the fight that is worth something here
oh that would have been a dream pick off because it's right as roshan does his roar too well i
guess they did it so quickly they couldn't get to that corner of the map let's go to
say pick up my spirit breaker into a roshan fight
could have been a dream for falcons but instead it's tundra getting everything
axe for ramsey's here massive lets you get more illusions on
on the battlefield more this dragon knight more damage over the battlefield, more of this Dragon Knight,
more damage over the long course
of the fight.
Even just some extra disables?
I mean,
the right disable at the right time
against Gyrocopter Satanic
might outright win you the fight.
It's looking like a strong push for Tundra
potentially trying to end this game right here
right now.
Pushes through a Game 3.
Cheese on Thompson
could also be huge
here if he gets able
to get it off at
the clutch point
and has the BKB
to back it up.
You have your
Tenoras.
Feels like go time.
Oh! Feels like go time. Now if I'm trying to play around this ward they have in the jungle,
saw Tundra on it for a moment but they wisely backed up
and did not have the gem there. for a moment but they wisely backed up i think you want to wait for that because it's also pretty big
yeah i think it is integral to your success that you get off the wall back, particularly since he has
the Aghs. It's not just like
a wall vacuum. You still have some
more power.
Not to mention he has all the auras
or, not all of them
Chen has a lot
so double BKB between
the Dart Seer and the Snapfire and he's just on the warplane
all three cores feeling pretty sturdy right now
got that granite golden water to back them all up.
You got Spearbreaker charge plus Dark Seer Vacuum
to kind of bail out an initiation.
Pass the Frenzy over from
Thunderhide Blizzard to Pure as well.
It's a massive attack speed boost good deets right there good deep
i can push and you hit the high ground right now they're getting all the lanes in bit by bit falcons are being forced back
settled on a high ground hold, they wait. Two and half minutes are left on the Aegis. Tundra have plenty of time
to coordinate their attack here.
Smoke, slip up to the top side of the map
see if there's anybody out here. And it's Grint, forced out.
Get him back up, up, up and away!
Nullifier turned back on him here.
Now he manages to break into the hurt flank.
This is really good bush whack.
They're going to take that Aegis for free
This is an awkward position for Tundra
Did he get the shot to be able to lock him inside?
Supernova's got one stun, a follow-up
No! Away form gets in the way
Supernova still tags them
They get a cookie
A little bit more range
but with the Vessel on them and already down to half HP
another Bushwack attacks him.
Pure gets too aggressive. They pay the price once again.
Tundra
they are settled on trying to hit the high ground
and twice this game.
Pure jumping up there punishes the whole of Tundra.
Four Stavs win you games right here as you go deep in these holes of Tundra on these plays.
They have limited ability to go on a target
and stick onto it.
Falcons are just bailing out every initiation
and then pulling Tundra in deep,
And that's exactly where they want them.
The stuns go to work, the supernova goes
to work...
And I think it was the mindbreaker
on crit that silenced Pure
coming out of that Aegis.
Ah, okay.
Slowed him down
so much trying to
wait for him back
out of there
but that situation
was just already
compromised.
It was.
You just don't have
a morphing DKB
so if he ends up in a deep position where the rest
of the team is not willing to commit with him...
It's easy picking for Falcons and the chain disables.
And now they're the ones pushing high ground!
Leaving Ramzes to try and find anything on the map
20 seconds no warpling you definitely are not buying back this carry to defend one lane
they have tier two subs so it's not not like another lane is going to be threatened.
That will get Daedalus for the Gyrocopter which you said was kind of needed in this man fight against the Morphling.
It's a big point here especially with the hp as
crimson guard to back him up man i mean it felt like that morphing had control of
the game but it also feels like it's starting to slip away a little as thunder are just out
scaling them perhaps going into this ultra late yeah the next step is these three cores
are scary together man and i feel like a lot of the scale for Tundra was that
Snapfire level 25 but you're gonna have
to win a big fight here to get it.
Thompson is too far off to just
kind of trickle into this 25 talent to give
you that extra oomph. Yeah, this has always been the problem with
Snapfire, right? It's like it looks fantastic
when you're winning the game, you're getting so much
experience, you get to 25 and a one
gain becomes easily won.
But in these stalemates getting over that threshold oh boy oh boy oh boy i think
they're gonna bottle it you know somebody smoked this man better hope they find something right away.
Seems like
Rune of Destiny right here
to keep your tournament dreams alive.
Look down look out for this man we're gonna walk up here there's no way they're walking up hills in this game i'll tell you that much every fight
that's gone well for falcons has been tundra
overextending into them but they're the initiators it is significantly harder to change on this
warplane they see thompson they want to go for him. BKB gets activated.
Nether Strike is put in.
He still has that amp damage!
Triple stabs.
He starts going to work on the triple stabs and managed to round the disengage.
Amar uses Stampede as well.
They need to get out.
It's all gone. BKB's gone do you stay around if your tundra
right now hold the hill yeah i mean it's kind of an equal amount got used dragon form
you're gonna chill need a double fire of your own these four staffs are killing
you in these drawn-out exchanges.
And now Falcons,
you know you have some spell and item advantage right here.
Did he end up committing for a BKB on this pure Morphling?
Which is a big deal now because it is a full duration.
Nine second BKB from all playing in this text
fight you're not gonna be able to change control as well as you did some of these
previous engagements
sold the dragon Lance for that so loses a little bit of attack range makes the flax slightly worse
but when you need a bkb you need a bkb he almost has 25. so we he may lose out on some of that attack range but
he'll make up for it with mobility on that waveform talent
you know somehow the first hero to hit level 25 in this game is the Skeeter Gyrocopter which
based on the start he had is not what I would have predicted here.
But the man finds a way so those flak talents fully online as nemesis curse of his own
4 000 hp to work with he's do he has a presence in these fights now
speaking of nullifier i agree tundra needs one nobody is gonna build it though
it's a big problem you have to be aware that the four stabs are going to come out there were
you know there was a hurricane pike on the DK, he got double
four-stab after that. There's a Stampede
that can go off during that same interval, so you
cannot overcommit. Can't be too
angsty with these early BKBs or
casual wall pokes or whatever and feel like they're going to
win you the fight unless you can just disengage yourself and call it a draw
might need a hex at some point in this game as well
hoodwinks is showing central bottom all the centaurs top hunter i may try and catch something up here. Nine class is going to be walking into...
Sees the ward, they see him.
He's done.
He walked into that one.
I think he thought it was only a ward
but its award sentry sat on top of each other
you can't see it yeah actually just incredible clutch placement here
a small mechanical thing that makes a world of difference he probably just did not see it
that's dirty dirty or no this is just an observable century
what oh yeah it's because you named it. He did this a long time ago. Yeah.
Just had the gem on the centaur.
That would be a cool trick to see if you can do it in lobby.
They got us. They got us.
Roshan time for Falcons. Do you have this way pushing in bottom but it is a dire shot so
you can sit somebody at base and just eat the outpost should be if he for who do you want to give the science
keep it to the centaur put the gyro in the cart
ah down with that yeah especially's been targeting this drop copter so much what if you just straight up you can't target him you can't steal flack here this is potentially pretty nice i mean also it's just a gyro driving through the fight
hitting anybody with flack so he doesn't care who he hits
i mean it's also just a solid axe now. Second stampede, good save mechanism, another bailout tool.
Closing in on the level 25 snap.
That is the biggest thing for Tundra here,
but they do not have it right now.
And Pure just buys out
and fully commits six slotted.
Trying to get a pick on Maureen!
Maureen down to half already!
Amar goes for the stomp!
BKB activated by Pura!
Turns into a drone copter now!
Starts throwing those Black Handed shots out!
Maureen needs to be careful of them!
They got their kick off on the Spirit Breaker, though, and are able
to kite back to their base.
The kiting mechanisms in this game, they just have no
answer for them. They get punished
every single time they commit to an engagement
of BKB down for pure they lose nine class again
they are unable to burst the dragon knight frustration is building here as
the lead builds alongside it 17 000 now after that Roshan.
Look at a little shard for the Dragon Knight.
Falcons grinding out this
game win one little kill
at a time.
I hope your snap is 25.
You just took that.
Yeah, he is.
He is.
Let's see if this
is a game changer.
I mean it is
a significant damage increase.
You should not underestimate
what this hero does with the level 25 talents,
especially with the amount of
damage Thompson's been able to build up in this game.
Yeah, he also has 4,000 gold
and an empty slot. I'm just saying
Divine Reindeer may not be out of the question.
You might need it.
Might kill yourself on the blade mail, but...
Here he is a bit of a long ways away from home here and
He doesn't have any movement speed to get back home.
What a find.
Dead with no buyback.
That was such a casual kill for how much it was worth.
And Falcons don't know this, but could actually it could just yeah they can technically
end the game right here but there's no way of knowing if basically you know this whole thing
is so wealthy in this game you automatically assume he has buyback here, or
maybe they go for it anyway!
Tier 2s are up on the side lanes and they're marching down mid!
I mean you definitely try to force the buyback here
you still have Aegis on the gyro for two-and-a-half
Shield Rune on Skeeter as well.
Thompson's going to have
to do something real good here
for Tundra
to hold this game
because Falcons
are calling here
and it's bluff,
it's no bluff at all
he straight up just does not have the buyback.
Sunray keeping Skeeter healthy
as the Tier 4 first one falls
second one down to half health
Suns coming in, has to go for the charge
on four with a vacuum on four
with the wall on Topson!
Will this be enough?
Thompson wears his shredder,
starts throwing it out.
A lot of damage!
Not enough
to kill anything though
and Skeeter,
he keeps on trucking and he's taking down the second tier four
Topson now starts throwing out some kisses hoping it's going to be enough when Falcons
Falcon is the name of the game. He's already down to half
a fly back now there it is a second round oh now that takes down the gyrocopter but will you have
blue shredder up for a third time falcons they doesn't look like it's keeter he's going from
the throne another vacuum back in.
The cart goes out, can they pull it in? They got it!
2-0 Falcons will take it Tundra.
Two oh.
What an ending here as Falcons, like you said they call the block on the more clean and just full commit.
Pure eventually responds into this game but it is too late here as the all-in on the
butterfly does not pay off. They casually
find him top and just like that
after one of the most dominating performances
I think of Fuhrer's career on land
It goes out with a random feed top lane on a dire ward that falcons got gifted to
them they did not have to work for that warfling kill at all though they had to
work for that throw at the end with the Snapfire Shredders coming through.
Still, what a way to pull back
this game. It felt like they were on the edge
multiple times there with Tundra finding
momentum, finding those early Roshans
building up steam on this Morphay. I think Pure's itemization
was absolutely on point to give them that
oomph to cut through these heroes
but some missteps going high
ground and the itemization from Falcons
the execution in that team fight.
That is something that separates this team
from a lot of their other world-class competitors.
Four staffs, four staffs, four staffs win you games on land.
Falcons threw it here again.
You certainly do. What a way to make top three for Falcons threw it here again. You certainly do, what a way to make top three
for Falcons
just slow and methodical in
taking the advantage in both
game one and game two
but confidently going for the throat when they know
they have the enemy on the back foot.
Going straight throw two games in a row
where they know they can just end it.
Falcons picked up a lot of
steam in this lower bracket, and they are going to be
a fearsome opponent
to meet in the final day of Riyadh Masters
Should give a big
shout out to Tundra here, though.
I mean, they had an incredible run this event.
And this is after ESL Birmingham and some of these other lands they did well at.
People are questioning like, is this team a fluke?
Do they have certain runs?
You know, Thompson with these heroes
but they're going to be
a real competitor
going into the TI.
They certainly are.
Ready to say goodbye
to Tundra though
and we'll say hello
to the winner's interview
of Amazing.
I'm joined by Amar
of the team of Falcons where the good times just keep on rolling
you have now every single event of 2024 that you've attended on team falcons
you have not gotten lower than third place. And so
far the trend is continuing here at
Riyadh Masters. And as a result of you
defeating Tundra Esports, could I please
get The Key passed over
as this is the first part of perhaps many trophies for you.
It was an amazing show, Pure, but the journey ends here.
Congratulations on the win, although it seems like you'd be used to it at this point. Like I said
This whole year has been nothing for successes
for you.
Are you complacent to it?
Does just feel normal or are you still get some excitement
being able to get a victory and get a top third place?
I mean definitely every single tournament we play like sure we won
Like after we won the first tournament
Every time we just feel like
We're getting way worse
So like to us
Like it feels like we never want and we're starting from the beginning again,
so it's actually fun. And it doesn't feel like we've won anything.
So actually it feels like every time we restart.
It definitely felt like that at the beginning of this tournament!
We saw the 0-4 in group stage and we were like, oh
these guys are starting over. And even earlier
today it felt like you guys were starting over
What did you do in your time off between
your match against
PSG Quest which was a long threegame fight and then a 2-0
against Tundra. What did you do in between?
We were just clowning around we did not actually do anything
we didn't say anything useful and we just waited for our series. I guess that's all we did.
Okay you may have done that! Was Curtis also doing that?
Was AUI also clowning around with you guys?
Kind of everyone.
You're a bad influence, Amara! You gotta tell these kids they gotta study up
so that you can be the best in the world
but I guess you're making it look good either way
Your next matchup is gonna
against Team Liquid.
Feelings, expectations, excitement?
Anything on your mind as you look forward to tomorrow?
We definitely have no expectations and we'll continue
to do so because when we had,
we just went 0-4.
So yeah it's better
to never have any expectations
And excitement for sure
is exciting playing Team Liquid
and playing on the stage
at Graz Rheinland
maybe we reach it
you know hopefully So every single game playing on the stage, grad trial and maybe we reach it. No? Hopefully so yeah
It's every single game here everywhere like is so good
And the crowd here is amazing
I love the attitude
Can we get one more round of applause please
for Team Falcons and ATF. Congratulations on making it the top three,
can't wait to see the rest of the journey as we pass it back to the studio.
A lot of chance in the crowd there for Falcons,
for Amar himself as well.
Make sure you guys stick around though because we're going to have our MVP
joining us here on that panel.
We are going to be seeing an exit interview
as well some words from Tundra because unfortunately
in this best of three,
it was two games in
favor of that with all they needed to advance
onto top three and make
it Sunday the very last day tomorrow.
And this one though, BSJ,
It was close! There's a lot of back-and-forth
We weren't sure if we were going to go to Game 3 or not
Yeah, Tundra looked like they had that game
They have the reins
You know their hands on the reins
And there are five manning a lot around behind pure who was number
one net worth in the game for most of it and
it just came down to i feel like capitalizing on a few mistakes from nine
class being a little bit overextending.
We saw Pure die at the end there with
no buyback, and I feel like
all the little things outside of fights went in favor
of Falcons while all the fights were back
and forth even, and eventually the little things added up to
enough to secure them the victory.
Yeah, that's what I wanted
to see. Lel Shredder level 25
Morphling turning into Gyro
with a flat cannon and everybody going boom boom boom pretty much dying in a couple of seconds but unfortunately as you said pure dying i'd say this might be like the biggest mistake of the tournament especially when things really matter. Dying like that, buying out,
not having buyback. It just
happens. I think a lot
is in your head. We've seen it so many times
at LAN events but
Team Falcons played amazing Dota.
They had some great stuff coming out
and showing that this team
and why we were saying throughout the whole year
that their best team in the world.
Yeah, I mean, they were just biding their time.
They knew that there was that discrepancy,
that Pure on the Morph
was as strong as he was
and it was great to see
that somehow
they were still able
to lure this one
back into their side
and get the win for you.
Yeah, I mean,
I was kind of looking
at what Tundra
is doing in that game
and it felt like
the Aegis push
on the high ground
was probably a mistake
they were going to
look back on
because this morph
could have had
one plus item
if they would have
waited two minutes
into that Aegis before going
high ground but i feel like they really tried to brute force it and that was a situation where
they ended up losing the morph twice there that was a big reason for why falcons is even able
come back in that game particularly.
So, a little bit of the situation where not going high ground sometimes
is the best thing to do because that's the easiest way
to throw a game but probably a game Thunder's gonna look back on
and find a lot of things that they could have done slightly better
to potentially win that one.
I feel like once you take one lane over Axl in high ground,
you feel that you're confident when you get the Aegis
that you can take that second one and potentially even
third. It didn't go that way,
but let's break this game down a little bit more dive
a little bit deeper here
and look at some highlights all the way back
as the start of our game.
I've got a lot of them here for fear
we're gonna start with your one in the midline i mean this is
the first highlight of the game here this one was really good and quick in position
there to stop the kisses that was really big for this fight to happen and then of course
snaking the six minute rune is coming up dives right when it comes out steals that
gd roon and this was a situation where i'm just like okay falcons the lane stage went pretty well
for them they survived the first Snapfire Kisses,
and now they're in a great position.
Denied the rune too.
So that was their first step going
in the right direction this game.
Then we've got our second one from you,
Lacoste, a little bit later on in the game though yeah some really nice play that's
the fierce clip i believe yep no we're just running it back we actually want to hear your analysis oh
my analysis so everything that fear said and i'm'm going to say they also bursted down tops.
And Jenkins actually chose this clip for us because we were not aware what was going to happen.
But this is the clip.
Skeeter gets a solo kill on darts here.
Comes in seven minutes and takes over the Watcher.
Plus he's also going to be able to pick up the enemy XP runes so both XP rune go into the way of Falcons
And also TP's out, First Breaker so close to actually getting the charge
getting the kill on enemy carry but doesn't get it in the end.
Yeah, it was really ballsy I mean the fact that
It was just that split second where SB's charge could have connected
And it could've been the game changer in
opposite way, but lucky last year
BSJ run me through what you thought was a pretty crucial
moment. Yeah I feel like
those moments with the gyrocopter
getting out is like what sets up these later fights where we see a 2k, 3k net worth lead on the side of Falcons.
And when he lives on his sliver of HP there, why? It's like that xp room goes slightly differently
if he doesn't get out that time maybe a bit less farm and this allows falcons
to actually turn the fight in their favor as tundra like
they do end up taking down the dk as well
as the gyrocopter Aegis, and we see that
the teamfight
AOE group-up on the side of Falcons
was not quite as good as
Tundra's in the Auras paying off here.
Falcon's able to only get away with one or two cores.
But I feel like those are the type of fights where it showed how hard
it was for Tundra to lock them down,
and it took Falcons going back in
and maybe taking one or two misguided decisions
to actually finish them off.
And later on, that was not the case and Falcons was too tanky to bring down.
Normally it's been really difficult in the past few days for us to be able to pick an MVP because all of the series are going
into that game three, it feels like both
sides as arguments for any
player. But this one being a 2-0
on the side of Falcons, a little bit easier to call
PlayStation MVP, Ryan?
Yeah, I think this one we saw he was in what?
Both of the highlights that you guys gave
on the first two and then played a huge role
in catching and bursting down heroes.
You want to announce it or am I...
No, you!
I'm handing over the host.
Oh nice!
Well our PlayStation MVP for this final series No, you have you. I'm handing over the hood. Oh, nice!
Well, our PlayStation MVP for this final series was none other than Crit on The Hoodwinked,
one of his most signature heroes as he put on a clinic and we're gonna see some sick late game plays from
him that decided this one yeah and i always say this every time
we announce our playstation mvp but it's enjoyable to get them on the panel join
us here so we can ask some more deeper questions.
First of all, I mean you guys had a big day
You were in the first series and this final series
How has it been just managing the exhaustion from such
a long day?
I think honestly a bit easier than we were expecting.
You get that adrenaline going and then
the first series we had was pretty long so
that cut into our break which I think
was probably good for us because if we'd won
against Quest early, we would have like five hours
to kill. Instead, we had three hours and it
was just a quick 2-0 for Gladiator so
it was honestly just like waiting for
one series. It was not like a big break and it was fine.
Yeah, I want to ask you about game number 1 when you saw that Faceless Void going mid
were you guys aware of what's gonna happen?
Because you bought Bongo Boots immediately
as your first item to counter the Chrono Square.
Yeah, I mean we've seen some boards going for the
I don't even know the name of it, Time Zone?
Time Zone yeah.
So we have some theories about it.
We also have like some of the biggest nerds in Dota 2 that know how to counter it
and I think it was pretty simple for us to play against just because of that.
I think we did not expect it to go mid When we thought it was going to be Monkey,
because Topson has a big...
Has like level 30 Monkey or something
and obviously Pure likes Void
so we were little bit surprised they did that but
It worked well for them on lanes
I think we did well to stabilize
And kind of come out of it somewhat well
Like, we played well in the beast even though our slug was having a rough time
So it wasn't too bad
While were on game one there is a very specific clip
This one is thanks to VSJ who isn't on the phone While we're on game one, there is a very specific clip.
This one is thanks to VSJ who isn't
on the panel right now but we're going to run it.
You're gonna watch it and kind of walk us through this exact
moment where we see you guys trying
to dive Ramanzys here.
And let's just watch your play out, all right?
Hopefully it slows down a bit.
Keep an eye on the boars.
That is amazing that we are going to keep our eye on here slow it down even more oh yeah
because it wasn't flowing off but that's done did you realize in the moment skeeter
was pretty fast to take responsibility but honestly I don't know how much it would have mattered.
Best case is we kill Beastmaster and then all of us still die.
So yeah...I think you know...it's not ideal to stun boars and hawks.
There was an ancient meme with Sockska
some of these guys will know the meme
It was a content piece that actually showed up recently
Yeah so i got a little bit of flashbacks from that but
i feel like it would not have gone well for us even if we had stumped uh the beast was he just
immediately incomes like yeah guys let's done the barst on the forest on the ball yeah i think we're
just like it was not a good move and he's like oh yeah
I just slumped the board so that's my bad. So just to move on
It's good to take responsibility fast
My question is are you guys feeling additional pressure in this tournament
compared to other tournaments because your AIs
are making a lower bracket
run. And I kind of feel so when we
talk to Malorine and even
ATF that they're feeling a little more
flustered than usual or the games are
a bit harder. Because that's like common with your team right now, this were a bit harder is that like common with your team right now this turns
a bit harder than all the other ones for you yeah i think i think honestly every tournament
we played this year we kind of had some weird thing happen that altered our expectations in some way like we played
birmingham we thought we're going to play with a stand-in then maureen came
in last we had like no expectation to win uh we played bucarest we had a stand-in
uh or no malino saying yeah we had to stand
in and then maureen was playing online when we were playing dream league
so we had always like something that kind of just made us have less
expectation and then now we're like home turf home tour for falcons like there's
a lot of people here cheering for us
and it's like the biggest tournament of the year one of the biggest ones so i think it's just
the first real tournament for us i think outside of like bed boom dacha which was our first
tournament so that one we also didn't have any expectation.
So I think it's just something we're managing you know?
We started out 0-4 and I think we had some good talks like trying to fix
our mindset about it and I think even today
like our first series against Quest there was pretty much just a coin
toss if we won or lost but i think even though there's some nerves, you can tell
that there's also the clutch plays. And I think that's what matters. We're beating
these teams because we have that x factor on our players and I think if's what matters. Like, I think we're beating these teams because
you have that X factor on our players
And I think if we keep having that then
even though we make mistakes
every team will make mistakes when it's the biggest tournament
So yeah
I think we are growing with it
Obviously tomorrow we play in a better team
It'll be harder we'll just see if
we can step it up a little bit more.
I still want to ask you about game two because
you're one of my favorite players when it comes down to
Hoodwink. I noticed that you
didn't have so much success as you usually do with the hero of this tournament,
and also the itemization that you go for.
You're slightly less greedy than other players picking up Athos instead of Maelstrom
or just getting anything that is needed for the team like Glamour Cape.
So why is that compared to some other players?
I think it's just a hard balance when you're not having like a great game
I think a lot of the games we played Hood Hoodwink had like a bad lane matchup.
And then I kind of feel like going into the maelstrom
and you're just not providing much
and buying Greaves or something that will help your team is a little bit better
I honestly also don't like Hoodwing as much now
as before the trickshot tree bounce, whatever it's called.
Like, I think it's just...
I prefer to cast her in Gelob
because she gives you option
to buy a Glimmer Cape and Force Staff
and stuff and use it very effectively.
So I think the hero is just a little bit worse,
It's obviously strong in some aspects like that
The Tree Bounce is good in lane
you can trade with most heroes but
maybe just weaker than people think.
I've got one final question before we let you go is because
you're doing this even slight lower bracket run what has been
the toughest or more enjoyable series that
you have had in playoffs so far?
I think the most enjoyable was probably Extreme, just because it's
the first series and there were some jitters but we're also
just... It was fun to play. And obviously
like we have some history with them.
I think against Quest this morning
was not very enjoyable for us
It was very stressful
We did not play very well
And we kind of just have to clench it out
This series was a little bit more calm
Like 2-0 is good The first time we didn't lose game
two which is also nice because we've pretty much won game one and lost game
two at all tournament so yeah I think the Tundra one was
the calmest one, and then the Tundra one was the calmest one and then
the Extreme ones were probably most enjoyable.
Um, I lied to you this is actually my last question.
Coming up against Liquid tomorrow do you think it's going to be more of that chaotic
how you had your series earlier today against psg quest or is
it going to be more similar to this series against tundra where you come in really confident and
you think it's gonna be nice and a lot more clean no i think they'll be similar
to tundra i think their teams that have a lot of similarities
I think we understand Liquid very well
We have good record against them
So i think its a good matchup for us
We'll see, I think it's gonna come down to lots of drafts
and probably the prep as well.
And we'll see,
like we don't have that much time.
I know they've been watching this game,
so it just comes down to that,
but I'm confident we can beat them all.
So confident we could be gladiators if we make it there.
So we'll just see what happens.
All right.
Well,
I don't want to keep you too much longer
like you said
you're already short on time
thank you so much for joining us Critton
We're going to bring up our lower bracket here
so you guys can see the journey so far
that Falcons have taken along the way.
They fell down from that upper bracket
when they faced Cayman Gladiators,
but earlier today
they were able to get that 2-1 across
sorry against PSG Quest.
We unfortunately had to say goodbye to them, and then
we went to that upper bracket, but most recently
we had team spouses
two-owing Tundra, so saying
that sad goodbye to Tundra
let's hear a couple more words the last word that we will
hear in this tournament from their player pure
thank you very much i am joined by pure of tundra esports
it's been very,
very exciting
to watch your journey.
It's a shame
that it ends here
at top four
but you guys
are consistently
doing quite well
at LAN events.
I'm sure
it's championships
that you have in LAN
but Birmingham.
It seems like you guys exceeded expectations here.
You guys coming into group stage topping groups being one of the best teams there.
You are impressing consistently,
But for you personally how has this tournament experience been for you
i don't know every time i play dota i feel like that
i can win a lot of a lot of tournaments i can win a lot of series but in the end
i end up with missing some like some small things and then you
losing the games losing the maps for some random stuff
or some people that are...
I'm not overexcited. Emotions are getting over them
maybe sometimes emotions are getting over them maybe sometimes
emotions are getting over me so i mean it's always tough to lose
I don't know like, I hope I'm gonna something someday, but for now again like...
I don't know.
I think we got game one and I think we should have won game two
But then some stupid stuff happened that would never happen at the...
not stage games, but for some group stage games.
So I don't know.
It feels tough, man.
It's inspiring to see
that you take it
this seriously
because I know
for a lot of younger players
they're like
my time will come eventually
but it seems like
each loss really hits for you
uh but as much as you're speaking to your own individual performance
built as a team game and i was wondering what it was like for you to be able to play with
ramses on land because i know you guys have been friends for a long time.
You're finally teammates. Was that at least somewhat special experience being able
to join him on stage like that?
I mean we are not really close... We were not really friends for a long time but we are kind of close friends now.
It's cool to play with him.
He still needs to learn how to play the offlane properly
But we'll be improving. We need to learn a lot how to play the offlane properly.
But we will be improving as a team,
improving as persons and players on roles overall. So you'll see how it goes
you'll see I just think that Falcons is
better team than we are because as
i said, I think we got game one and two.
It ends up like that every time so they are better as a team.
The way this year has proven it seems like Falcons is a lot better than a lot of teams
but you have been showing an incredible forms throughout the
entire event here it's shame that the run ends here but it was very fun watching you congratulations
can't wait to see the rest of the journey for tundra and we'll send it back to the studio.
Very sweet, candid interview there from Cure
giving a lot of insight into how they've grown together
as Tundra coming in with that new off-liner unfortunately it wasn't able to rewrite
history back in birmingham falcons two owed them out into elimination from the lower bracket and
here at riyadh masters esports World Cup, it repeats itself.
Saking though is doing the one that is crushing the key.
He said I want to do it for Taka.
Let me put in there and see if the top will get sheared off this time.
Yeah, bittersweet. It was just pure last night doing this right
yeah not too long ago this man was crushing keys and now his key is put there into the
this is a good one that's right down the middle. Beautiful placement.
That might be one of
the most crushed keys I've seen.
That was perfect positioning from Snakey.
He went for the early and then transitioned
into mid-game crush, late game that is even good.
And when we come down to the late games
like no pieces have fallen off.
Let's see actually he's about to take it out
so we'll see exactly if any pieces have fallen out
but do you think the Southland's...
Oh!
That was so good actually.
He's proud of that one.
Yeah, I would be too.
I said yesterday that was the best crush
of the turnout.
But it gets better and better?
It got one-off tier today here today yeah the key crushing matter
is developing true the final product was about the same but it looked better going going like
crushed off this time oh just a sliver making could be just better than everybody else at
crushing keys uh look he might have a little bit of practice for it but are they going to
be able to crush some more keys tomorrow
Well we'll only have to wait
And find out
Before we get there
After the play of the days
I always look forward
To this one with you guys
I never know what to expect
I always expect
It is a wee
Alright well then let's just start
rolling them. Let's see exactly what has stood
out for you guys in these past three
series today for Acadia Play of the Days.
I know one of them we've
already recently seen but let's see it here all the way back in the first
series falcons up against psg quest this was a massive one yes this is skeeter on the ck and
you're going to look at his inventory here as he's going to be getting bursted, but he backpacks
his Manta. Malrean
hands him a cheese. There it is
And then he ends up
surviving because of it, and this was
game three of the PSG Quest
versus Falcon series. We heard
Crit on the interview saying
that was kind of a coin flip who's going to win
this game, and even though this fight wasn't
some perfect result for them or anything like that, like Malrean does
end up going down. Like if Skeeter had
fallen there, like notice how Dune's already
dead, Malrean ends up being dead. If he was
dead too as CK, they'd likely lose
that game entirely
and we might not even be seeing Falcons tomorrow at all.
We might not even be seeing them this afternoon
but I want to jump in there
because I got some really exciting news
apparently we're going to get the quest
Listen In to that exact moment jump in there because i got some really exciting news apparently we're going to get the quest
listened into that exact moment so it's a double on the planet today let's try this yeah
yeah we've got some bonus bonus action here We don't have ice pass. We don't have ice pass?
No, not at all.
Oh, they're on the CK!
They even called the primal cheese.
Give him a cheese!
I'm watching Ice Plus.
Oh, they were ready for it too. Okay.
CK, CK, CK, stop. I'm out guys, it's okay. Be careful. Nice. I'm out guys!
I'm out, I'm out, I'm out.
These professional eGamers they know
They see every move you make
Every step you take
They're gonna be watching
So they notice
Like two different voices
noticing what happened
with the cheese.
They were completely unscathed.
Like they just like
were like,
yeah, standard play.
Like we're like all impressed.
They really knew it
and all of us watching
are just like
what just happened?
But look, the professional e-gamers, as you like to coin them,
they knew what was going on.
They've got eyes everywhere, but so do you guys.
So we've got another Kadir play of the day
that my e-panelists love to
point at here.
I believe
that's you, Pierre. So yeah, I mean this
one was the early game that we saw from the last
game there. Krik going in with
that amazing bushwalk there to
stop Thompson.
This was a pivotal moment in
the game if those snap fire
kisses would have hit maybe
we could've went to game number
three here and on top of that
insult injury here snaking steals
the amplified damage room right in front of thompson's face there key moments for them winning
this game for sure here as it doesn't stop there they end up chasing him down towards
the tier one tower as well getting more kills when this could have just been a clean kill on that dk
and a snowball topson but they shut that down real quick.
There were a lot of things
that were almost for Tundra in that game
And I think that's one of the toughest thing is you see them
They're almost able to burst down in mid lane
And also with your play
of the day, Kadir's play of the day Lacoste
they almost were able to connect that charge
onto Jarrah. Just kidding
it is not the play of the day. It is not that one
its the other one, its the threat one it's your friend like that beautiful tree planting thinks about
the climate change and everything while also playing dota gets a two-man bush
whack on top of two heroes and look at supernova what a timing
so they don't have any stuns after that
even though Morphing Headshot has that S and Y
so it has a bit of status resistance.
Supernova explodes gets him just
a little bit enough time for their cooldowns to reset on those stunts
so they get multiple kills from that,
and beautiful execution from pretty much everybody outside of Falcons.
There were honestly so many play of the day's
that behind what you guys don't see
is that we're changing our minds and
what feels more impactful. What was one of the cooler ones? So sometimes, we have like six or
seven of them played lined up and we're just like all right which one do we get to pick from now so
it's nice to be able to see that,
but they were the three main ones for us
at Qadir Play of the Day.
Any last thoughts about today
before we close out our penultimate day
here at Riyadh Masters?
I mean,
I just love seeing the keys getting crushed and...
You just want to see more of that!
There's not many more we can crush which is sad
but we do get to see who will be crowned
the best in the world tomorrow and that's very exciting.
Team Falcons they kind of resurrected like a phoenix after
bad group stage 0-4
And still showing what their made off this team
They're serious tomorrow against Team Liquid.
You heard Kurt was talking about how confident
they are that they can take down Liquid. They have
pretty similar playstyle as Thunder does
and also against Gaming Gladiator
so that's what I want to see, confidence even though they
looked a little bit shaky in their series
against PSG Quest but that is about
nerves winning losing
We talk about gaming and Liquid both being
fast teams but they do it in very different ways.
So I feel like we have three final teams
that have very different reasons for being here
and you get to see the pieces match up against each other
and we have a lot of momentum coming from Falcons.
I think the series earlier in today,
like kind of gives you the rejuvenated
like oh we can win any series
We can win at anytime
Like we got past the nervous hump there
but I feel like they've got all
the moments and minutes on liquid to stop them
And I think if Liquid doesn't do it, I think Falcons
is going to take this whole thing. Wow, that's some
big calls. Let's have a very quick look at our
bracket though. I want to refresh everyone's
memories before we head into
our final day tomorrow.
Just how it shaped up,
our upper bracket where it started
with all of those teams in our round one
of the quarterfinals.
Semifinals is actually
where we saw Falcons fall down
then earlier today in that upper bracket final
that's where liquid found themselves falling down to the upper bracket but gaming gladiators
already secured their spot in the grand final tomorrow. Down in
the lower bracket though, let's turn
our eyes towards it and we can
see all the teams that have fallen
in the past few days
All the keys that have been crushed
So much enjoy in the past few days, all the keys that have been crushed
that you so much enjoyed.
So much enjoyed? That's great.
So much enjoyed that but yeah a lot of teams
did lose out here and they lost their bracket
But I'm a little worried for liquid going into tomorrow because
yeah they look very shaky versus gaming gladiators and now growing it's the hot falcon so
they need to get together quick 2 p.m is when you guys want to be joining in in fact
you probably want to tune in a little bit earlier
than that. Remember the time zone for these ones is
AST. So tune in a little
bit earlier because we're gonna be going through all
of the pre-shows. We're gonna give you all the rundown
You know make sure you guys are hyped for
what could potentially be either another
Liquid game in Grand Finals
or a Falcons game in Grand Finals,
which we have already had once
before in DreamLeague. I just realized that,
that has happened.
So either way,
we're going to have a potential repeat of grand finals,
but it's been amazing closing out our pen ultimate day and we'll see you guys
tomorrow for our very last day of Riyadh Masters at Esports World Cup. so 🎵 Right there Throw it down so so I'm out. so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so. so so me. so so We'll be right back. so so so so so so so Thank you.