REBROADCAST ✅ DROPS 🔴 6/8M RWF: Echo vs. Nerub-ar Palace | Mythic Day 6

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REBROADCAST ✅ DROPS 🔴 6/8M RWF: Echo vs. Nerub-ar Palace | Mythic Day 6 | !giveaway !donate !music

09-23-2024 · 30h 12m

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[00:00:00] at that point because we did not manage to interrupt Skeenspinner with the 5 debuffs that we have to dispel close to the boss

[00:00:07] so let's see if they can do it correctly this time around

[00:00:09] the first Cataclysm cast is going to be coming up

[00:00:12] there's so much damage, you need to do 5 dispels each one doing a big chunk of raid damage here

[00:00:17] but you're going to see them slowly getting dispeled

[00:00:19] oh that's going pretty low

[00:00:21] but they did manage to interrupt it, excellent, that was 1 out of 2

[00:00:23] they just need to be able to survive once more

[00:00:25] they're mainly just focusing all of their damage onto these scarabs

[00:00:28] I can see I didn't actually require damage right now, making sure that we get rid of these adds ASAP.

[00:00:32] And then we're just gonna go again, just do that rotation one more time.

[00:00:37] The dispels are also difficult because of course because we're just only 10 people, we only have 3 healers.

[00:00:42] So there are 3 magic dispels. We have a Master spell, but the Powered Master spell is that on this spell it does damage.

[00:00:48] So if you Master spell all 5 at once, you're probably gonna one-shot the whole group.

[00:00:52] So you definitely have to stagger the dispels a little bit.

[00:00:55] We technically have a Warlock that could dispel, which she's probably doing with the Imp.

[00:01:00] So we do have a 4th Dispel here, which might actually just be enough for you to do 4 single Dispels and 1 Master Spell to get the last one off.

[00:01:09] Ah, yeah, now you're entirely right.

[00:01:11] Huh.

[00:01:13] Could you get Master Spells on a 2 minute cooldown now, right?

[00:01:15] Yeah.

[00:01:16] Yeah, so, I guess they obviously Master Spell during a lot of them.

[00:01:20] They got it!

[00:01:21] Yes, excellent.

[00:01:21] Okay, we should be able to see in the next intermission if they can get this Scarab down.

[00:01:24] These sets of scarabs. It's very funny seeing this this particular. This is some normally

[00:01:30] This is very hidden like these sorts of weird jank little science session

[00:01:35] So I'm glad that we can see some insight in here

[00:01:37] This is all this is what they do for Prague if they need to do some science to get some information

[00:01:41] That's exactly what they're doing a little bit of an exploration pause. We're heading into the second intermission soon

[00:01:47] Bosses due to yep in we go. He's gonna start his rampage

[00:01:50] As the spike storm begins you can see everyone supporting Orbs

[00:01:54] They're gonna do their best to break through the shield here whilst obviously avoiding all of these swirlies

[00:01:58] The shield is gonna take a lot longer. No bloodlust available for this one

[00:02:02] But in theory you are actually taking maybe slightly less damage in this phase because you're not standing in any of the

[00:02:07] webbing cones on the ground that do a tiny bit of ticking damage, but

[00:02:11] Generally speaking it's still gonna be rough. I wonder how you would

[00:02:15] Organize this would you have the groups going around in teams or would you like to like a partner setup?

[00:02:19] maybe so this is this one is more difficult than the first intermission when it comes to movement

[00:02:24] because the first intermission it's you very much can walk in a circle around the boss uh-huh but

[00:02:30] this one not really right it's a lot more difficult you can't divide the room in two and then like

[00:02:36] switch at some point but it's certainly gonna be a lot more um i guess to improvise more which

[00:02:42] generally is always very difficult like everything that requires um improvising is going to be

[00:02:48] harder like because you cannot just figure out a perfect strategy but let's see did they break the

[00:02:54] shield no no yeah but it's a meal does this seem oh no okay never mind I'm gonna I was gonna say

[00:02:59] this looks really easy to heal it's because no one's soaking orb soaking orbs himself does a lot

[00:03:03] of damage so that's gonna be where a lot of the damages we're into the last phase here there we go

[00:03:07] there we go echo in phase three of the penaltima boss only taking 17 pulls wow blizzard please

[00:03:13] please buff this boss now. So yeah we're gonna have both the charges and the

[00:03:18] dispels at the same time where we got to interrupt the boss with the webbing by

[00:03:24] putting that across for the charge as well as doing the five dispels. So we'll

[00:03:28] see the order of the abilities. So far it's been very similar to heroic. Let's

[00:03:32] see the damage of this particular cast. Okay, not too bad with the this

[00:03:37] unleashed swarm mechanic. There's more damage every single time it's cast.

[00:03:42] that particular one didn't seem to do too much so not bad if everyone gets pulled in or if it's

[00:03:48] only the blue people that get pulled in if everyone gets pulled in it does look like it goes

[00:03:52] directly under the boss that's what i was thinking yeah but they were all really close so maybe it's

[00:03:55] just like if you're close you get pulled under and if you further away you don't i'm not sure

[00:04:00] yeah i look forward to seeing phase two once we get a full 20 man team there to see what

[00:04:05] happens because yeah right now it seems like impossible um which um i don't think is the

[00:04:09] idea um maybe it is like it makes more sense if it's like if you're so far away

[00:04:14] honestly like maybe they are assuming people are actually using like gateway

[00:04:18] tech we've seen this before on pain smith right where it was like there's no way

[00:04:21] this is intended but then yeah they actually intended you to use like

[00:04:24] gateways and other shenanigans to get over that full wall of

[00:04:29] um death that happened on pain smith and then this one maybe they

[00:04:33] uh expect you to cheese it cheese it somehow by interrupting the pool

[00:04:37] which many classes can interrupt the pool, blink, disengage, other immunities, so maybe they are

[00:04:44] expecting just 10 players to do that. Because I think this is not like an ongoing drag effect,

[00:04:49] it's like a one big yoink from the boss, so if you can counteract that with any sort of movement,

[00:04:54] like a goblin jump or something, equivalent, then you're fine. So yeah, definitely getting

[00:04:59] KJ flashbacks for this boss in terms of the requirements, priests are going to be very happy

[00:05:05] that they can be drake fair soon if they don't like being gobbled when it comes to this so they

[00:05:08] can look after themselves but they may shoot through the dispels um yeah i i don't actually know if

[00:05:15] this fight has a heart in rage um i know that the boss does ever increase in damage with the swarm

[00:05:20] mechanics i thought it was like a soft in range but maybe they have a berserk not sure yeah i'm

[00:05:24] not sure about that i definitely didn't see in the rog but we do see like obviously some of

[00:05:29] these intermission abilities are also happening in this phase in addition to the charge

[00:05:34] they're interrupting right now and the cataclysm that they have to grab for the dispels

[00:05:38] they also have additionally these frontals that the boss are casting so the frontal of the scarab

[00:05:43] dude which also happens in phase one but the wet frontal as well from skin spinner and then on top

[00:05:49] of that we have this intermission circle that we see as well happening from scarab dude.

[00:05:54] Some back to back stuns on the bosses there this would be an excellent time for bloodlust as

[00:05:58] you're going to a hundred percent damage at one to a hundred percent damage on the other

[00:06:01] but there's a lot of mechanics leading up to it that you need to do correctly.

[00:06:04] And that's how long into the fight, let's see.

[00:06:05] That was just shy, at 9 minute 40.

[00:06:08] This pool's been going on for a long time, obviously.

[00:06:10] Oh, now die.

[00:06:10] Oh, here's the hard enrage.

[00:06:11] That's enrage, yeah.

[00:06:13] Damn.

[00:06:13] 9.50.

[00:06:14] 9.50.

[00:06:15] 9.45, 9.50.

[00:06:17] Well now we can go, okay, the bosses have x health, you know, what is it,

[00:06:21] tons, I think it's the terminology, tons of health.

[00:06:23] How much is that you need to do?

[00:06:25] Well, I guess we don't know exactly if the enrage is actually coded for the whole duration of the fight,

[00:06:30] Or if the end rate starts just in phase three, you know, like very good

[00:06:35] from the start of phase three to where this points that is then right right because sometimes that is

[00:06:40] What they do because of course our intermissions were

[00:06:44] Ridiculously long because we only had half the white even less than half the damage that we normally would in that point

[00:06:48] Yeah, that's very interesting idea. It's a weird time 950 is a little strange. It's more 49 things like that's weird

[00:06:54] So I'm thinking that maybe

[00:06:56] It's like a separate and Rachel's face based

[00:07:00] Yeah, I guess the echo according to the leaderboard will just about pull ahead as they got to 79.4% in phase 3

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[00:08:32] Pretty cool.

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[00:09:07] that they need to kill the boss team spider on the other team crap they'll

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[00:26:38] we've had a very exciting morning indeed, Kavesa's going down, and now we're working

[00:26:44] on the penultimate fight in the narrowbar palace on Mythic, the dreaded sunken court.

[00:26:50] Also known as Queen's Imperial Numbar Eternal Palace.

[00:26:56] They are switching around some players and they have done something very interesting.

[00:27:07] They basically removed half of the rate, took only one of the debuffs here which is something

[00:27:13] like one of the marks, you of course have to spot the rate into two and a maximum of

[00:27:19] ten players can take one color while the other players have to take the opposing color

[00:27:25] And then you have to play the fight with those marks, which would then crit the moats, and if you soak the moats

[00:27:30] But the way they did it is they removed half the raid, had only 10 players that they were playing the fight with

[00:27:35] Took only one Kaladiba, which means that they could completely ignore the mythic mechanic in fact

[00:27:40] Which means they obviously cannot kill a boss with 10 players, but they were able to see further into the fight

[00:27:45] Which allowed them to see phase 3, as you can see in the leaderboard

[00:27:48] You might be thinking, why are you doing phase 3, but the boss was 79%, that's why

[00:27:52] because they only had 10 players and they did this to see for themselves, to see the timer

[00:27:59] of the different kind of mechanics. We even saw the N-Rage as well, which happened at like 9 minutes

[00:28:03] in 40. We're not sure if the N-Rage is 9 minutes 40 from start of fight to end of fight, or if

[00:28:10] the 9 minutes 40 is maybe only for phase 3. Maybe the timer starts separately there and it's like

[00:28:17] it could be like a 3 minutes N-Rage in phase 3 for example. We're not sure about this one,

[00:28:21] But yeah, they tested a bunch of stuff, got all of this information, got all the timers, they're going to be updating their boss mods, they're going to be updating their weaker ass, and their cooldowns and whatnot, and then they're going to figure out a strategy, which is really cool because now the people, the analysts in the background, they have so much to work with, and they can help them out a lot.

[00:28:38] is very very rare to have a fight like this where you can see the entirety of the fight

[00:28:42] in a way that you're kind of just breezing through it just to see as much as you possibly

[00:28:45] can. I'm sure Liquid did the exact same thing when they were doing some pulls in the dark

[00:28:49] class site. So both teams working on this boss in parallel, I'm just looking forward

[00:28:55] to seeing the differences in their choices that they're going to be making in terms

[00:29:00] of how they're going to be dealing with the different movement required for this

[00:29:03] fight because there's so many, it honestly feels like there's almost infinite ways

[00:29:07] of you deciding how to do it. It's got to pick the very best one. But we have 20 players

[00:29:11] back in the raid. So we'll be going for some more normal looking pulls. Comp's a little

[00:29:16] strange. We're missing a monk as an example right now, which is just a little bit odd.

[00:29:22] So a few things not entirely, like this is probably not B set comp. Maybe Meriz is obviously

[00:29:29] coming out of the blood decay. Maybe going to be trying out some things. It could

[00:29:32] also be that Swagger at the moment is due to be in, but is instead in the middle

[00:29:35] with the plus, so I might be joining us a little bit later, maybe after lunch, because

[00:29:39] we do have several players in and out in different positions right now. Also, they might just

[00:29:43] think that the Wind Wulker buff might not be that important for the comp that they have

[00:29:47] available, but I don't know, it feels like a free V2 half, yeah, it'll be unlikely.

[00:29:51] And they do have a good amount of CC as well with Wulkers, of course, with Ring of Peace

[00:29:54] and things like that, which would be helpful for the adds. So, we'll see exactly how that

[00:29:58] goes down when they eventually get some pulls in, but it looks like even Sims are

[00:30:02] going through now, so who knows what's going on. If they're organizing splits,

[00:30:05] some gonna be so sad I mean it will have to organize splits eventually for the

[00:30:11] reset right we are probably gonna be doing those not as many as we did this

[00:30:16] week or last week but he said he lastly but there's certainly still gonna be some

[00:30:20] items that these players are missing certain drink it certain very important

[00:30:23] items that they can still get through those splits so we're gonna be doing

[00:30:26] those eventually because of course we still have a whole boss left after

[00:30:29] this one and this one is nowhere near going down so yeah a lot of

[00:30:34] progressions still left to do.

[00:30:36] Tons, tons of raiding left, which is excellent.

[00:30:38] I don't know about you, but like,

[00:30:40] the race has already been so exciting

[00:30:42] with the bosses previously leading up to this

[00:30:44] being so, so difficult, which sucks for every guild

[00:30:47] that is on them right now,

[00:30:48] who have no way of killing them this week.

[00:30:50] I feel real bad for all the guilds that are like,

[00:30:52] I think there's over 200 guilds that have killed four

[00:30:54] and have no way of killing five or six right now,

[00:30:57] but hopefully some changes.

[00:30:58] Like, I think it might be a good idea,

[00:31:00] maybe to do some changes to those bosses

[00:31:02] as we go into the reset.

[00:31:03] not that it's going to affect the race to the world first guilds, hopefully the guilds

[00:31:07] that are going for race to the world first have already taken out those bosses, but it

[00:31:11] would be nice that the rest of the community can actually start engaging with them because

[00:31:14] otherwise it does feel like the race is kind of affecting the rest of the raiding community

[00:31:18] as large in quite a negative way.

[00:31:21] But yeah, it's good to see that it's been some spicy stuff from a race to world

[00:31:26] first perspective.

[00:31:27] We're not even on the R2 bosses where we really thought it would be crazy and

[00:31:31] it seems that this boss ain't chilling out at all.

[00:31:34] Not in any way shape or form.

[00:31:35] Definitely, it's not.

[00:31:36] We do see a Riddich are coming through.

[00:31:37] We see Jinji looking at his class tree,

[00:31:39] making sure he has all of the useful talents here,

[00:31:44] utility talents.

[00:31:45] Of course, he is playing Frost,

[00:31:47] which is something we haven't seen so far.

[00:31:50] Hopeful still sticking to their cane mage.

[00:31:52] They're just testing the defense backs.

[00:31:53] This makes a lot of sense.

[00:31:54] Oh, for sure.

[00:31:55] They're gonna compare the damage numbers.

[00:31:56] Of course, on partial pulls,

[00:31:58] the damage numbers are not gonna be that big

[00:32:00] an indicator because of course there's different kinds of cooldowns and then maybe the arcane

[00:32:05] mate shines more when you get more damage increased on the boss and maybe the frost mate shines

[00:32:09] more on the opener because they are able to stack up the bosses on the opener while

[00:32:13] maybe later on they're going to be more spread so it's definitely going to be interesting

[00:32:18] for them to be able to compare those two different specs.

[00:32:22] Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing what the overall damage comp is going to look

[00:32:25] on this fight because of course it's a very strange damage profile, it's adds so you

[00:32:29] You want to be able to have some good burst AoE for those adds, but it's also a kind of

[00:32:32] single target while the bosses are separated.

[00:32:35] Two target consistent cleave, long range multi-dot cleave, sometimes good.

[00:32:40] You want really good burst damage with a 10-second window as well, but not all the time.

[00:32:44] But sometimes back to back, so you actually want it in a 20-second window.

[00:32:47] I have no idea what class you want to bring, basically.

[00:32:49] Ones that do big damage as far as my advice would go right now.

[00:32:54] I think we saw Server also play Destro. To be fair he was playing Destro when they were doing the 10 men thing, not sure if that had any meaning whatsoever. Maybe he just felt like it's better for getting done with a shield.

[00:33:07] Maybe.

[00:33:08] Who knows? But yeah, usually Affliction is better on a fight like this, but then you never know.

[00:33:15] I think obviously everything being a little bit different, maybe the cooldown timings work out better for Dastro for Demi increasing the bosses, and so on and so on.

[00:33:23] Maybe they're just testing it, maybe Wolf just because he's playing Affliction while Server is playing Dastro, so we can have some comparisons here and there.

[00:33:29] We'll see, because obviously right now they know they're not going to be killing the boss, they're just testing stuff out and obviously trying to get further with their strategy.

[00:33:36] And I'm for sure well whilst we are waiting for them to get a pull in maybe as I start to transition over towards the donation reading

[00:33:43] They do a pool timer

[00:33:45] Nope, okay, so I gave them the opportunity

[00:33:47] We have got some wonderful donations in from you guys and some of them are Furby related

[00:33:52] Amazing can't wait to be haunted in my dreams. We got a $1 and 69 cent donation from Alex's Furby

[00:33:57] He says have you told Nogura the tale of Hellfire Citadel?

[00:34:01] I just always talk about Hellfire Citadel on these cars

[00:34:04] I've been doing my best not to but I actually did bring up manner off talking about how fast it fell and then well first in

[00:34:09] That sort of here, so I love talking about it. We discovered this far too late into our shift together

[00:34:20] We'll go back to all these donations as they have jumped into a pool

[00:34:23] I did pull the boss, but how far is it to the last?

[00:34:26] This boss is giving me like Zulcherac vibes.

[00:34:29] I do see some manor, I think there's some Archimonde here.

[00:34:33] Not a Valkyrie.

[00:34:36] Tyran Valhari?

[00:34:38] Oh damn, yeah.

[00:34:40] That fight was crazy.

[00:34:41] It was a great fight, I like that.

[00:34:43] Yeah, it was, I think there was a point in that fight, we should stop talking about

[00:34:47] it.

[00:34:48] They're doing some actual pranks, so many players in the raid you're going to

[00:34:51] see them with their three tethers. Oh, one of which has disappeared. Where did that go?

[00:34:57] She gingy looking as confused as us. Where did that? Hello?

[00:35:01] If you go too far apart, it does get removed. I wonder if that is what happened?

[00:35:06] Any chance we, like a prequel for that as a replay, because that's very peculiar.

[00:35:12] It didn't look like it had a reason to break. Maybe there's some sort of like, he did

[00:35:17] pop in this

[00:35:19] all

[00:35:19] i don't think that it possible that it is

[00:35:21] maybe great in business but i think that

[00:35:23] maybe

[00:35:24] as that is very possible i have seen using this already that it didn't

[00:35:27] all

[00:35:28] i don't know that is very strange very strange indeed

[00:35:32] the type of a hardy

[00:35:36] three people go i remember that loss

[00:35:39] it would look at the replay here

[00:35:42] all the ice block

[00:35:43] Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm meaning remove the debuff. There we go

[00:35:47] Fair enough. I guess he

[00:35:49] Maybe isn't it a choice between ice block and a really strong damage reduction that you can do now as a man?

[00:35:54] It's cold. I believe it's called. Yeah, maybe he thought he had ice cold instead of ice block

[00:35:59] So it's probably the sacrifice. Maybe he just didn't know that he removed it, right. That's who it is. Now he knows.

[00:36:03] Yep

[00:36:03] We have found out it looks like it's gonna be a quick ready check. It looks like the pool is going very well up to that point

[00:36:08] Yeah, that was really nicely done. Oh

[00:36:10] We're gonna see if they can get so that the furthest they've gotten so far with like the normal strategy was

[00:36:18] Doing the second charge

[00:36:20] Properly, and then they kind of died afterwards. So yes, that's like the progression point that we're at right now

[00:36:26] No, it's certainly on it looks like we're just gonna be jumping shred back in which makes a lot of sense

[00:36:31] When it's sort of small mistakes, there isn't like a whole lot more to talk about it's like, oh, don't immune it lol

[00:36:35] That's it. We go again and here comes the pool timer for that. So just to go over some of the mythic mechanics

[00:36:41] You will be seeing here because we've obviously been speaking about it. This is very fresh for everyone involved. So

[00:36:46] At the very beginning of the fight, you're going to see an uber rush and a tachage both put down a circle around them

[00:36:51] When you enter that circle, you are going to become a team red or team blue if your

[00:36:56] Team red and team blue come come within a certain distance of each other. It's like three yards. You see there's going to be a little

[00:37:00] circle around the player. There we go, a little circle around the player. Not sure what happened

[00:37:06] there. We can work that out at another point, but yeah, they're just wiping now. I think

[00:37:10] what happened there was that someone was in one of the zones and it kind of screwed

[00:37:13] up the count between them. I think I saw like a deep breath from an Evoca go across

[00:37:17] and I think that might have caused some strange...

[00:37:19] Yeah, so Genji did not get the D.VaF, even though he was standing in it, which

[00:37:23] either means there's some sort of bug going on, or 10 players already had the

[00:37:27] about debuff and it can't be more than 10. So maybe someone else was mis-positioned.

[00:37:32] Yeah, that must be actually 12 people going for the red debuff and only 10 people who

[00:37:37] must pick it up. There must have been what caused the issue there. But you did see obviously

[00:37:41] that some players at least got their correct debuffs, their correct marks. And if you

[00:37:46] don't pick up a mark, you turn out like Jinji there with a death mark, a mark of

[00:37:50] death that deals 17.2 million damage every second and it persists through death.

[00:37:57] Yeah. So you are super dead is the terminology.

[00:38:01] I did official work for it.

[00:38:03] There's no way about it. You are gone. You are so gone.

[00:38:08] So that's largely what you'll be seeing.

[00:38:09] So those players, team red and team blue cannot come within three yards of each other.

[00:38:13] Otherwise they will kill each other.

[00:38:15] It's not like a star auger explosion, which kills the entire raid.

[00:38:19] Just kills those players.

[00:38:20] But of course, on a fight like this, that's going to cost you two

[00:38:23] battle reses in order to do that.

[00:38:25] And I don't even think an unctone would be able to get you as well because the damage that you take is so high

[00:38:28] An unctone does have a maximum amount of damage you can take before it just goes no way I can get involved in that

[00:38:33] So yeah chances are you're gonna need to use two battle res in order to fix any of those sort of positional mistakes

[00:38:39] So you're gonna see a lot of dancing around where the red team and the blue team have to work in harmony with one another

[00:38:43] Whilst keeping their distance because when you were hit by certain mechanics the red team will drop red orbs

[00:38:48] same with the blue team dropping blue orbs and

[00:38:50] and the opposing team needs to soak them.

[00:38:53] So you're going to see soon from hopeful point of view here

[00:38:57] when he is hit by the venomous rain, which is the little green circle around him,

[00:39:00] and when he soaks this webbomb, he will be spawning a blue orb.

[00:39:04] His partner, Xerwo, is going to be doing the same thing, but spawning red orbs.

[00:39:09] So you can see here, one red and one blue orb spawn,

[00:39:11] and they're going to go around and do the same thing.

[00:39:12] They just literally rotate on the spot and soak each other's stuff.

[00:39:15] You can soak up to two orbs with any given sort of period.

[00:39:18] if you soak three once again death is going to be coming your way so you can

[00:39:22] see how they've done that they have got the three range teams doing this with

[00:39:25] each of the weapons so they have the tethers ready for the upcoming charge

[00:39:29] there we go and then the three tethers of course interrupting that charge making

[00:39:33] sure Anubarash does not charge their wall because if he collides with the wall

[00:39:37] of course there's going to be a huge amount of rate damage coming out which

[00:39:39] is technically survivable but not really so that we want to make sure

[00:39:44] you drop that and on top of that you also get the damage increase on the

[00:39:46] boss for a couple of seconds to get that 100% damage increase I think it is, just like it is in

[00:39:50] Heroic as well. And there we go now we get some Frontals we will get another Venomous Rain in

[00:39:55] just a moment so the players are positioning themselves in the correct spot. The melee players

[00:39:59] are all kind of close to the boss forming like camps and which they're going to be rotating

[00:40:04] around the boss to make sure they're soaking the opposing colored monster they're spawning

[00:40:09] and the ranged are still in their pairs and they are now doing the same circle

[00:40:14] rotation to soak the other orbs that we've seen before while also picking up the

[00:40:19] tethers to interrupt the charge in just a moment.

[00:40:23] We can see very very careful obviously it's not perfect right now in terms of the

[00:40:26] way that they're doing this but it's certainly good enough.

[00:40:30] That's good like obviously that's not what we want where we have like two blue and one red on

[00:40:34] each side but it was still good enough to get to the break in it's something

[00:40:38] that they will make cleaner in the future but in terms of getting further

[00:40:41] the fight this is the furthest we're about to go into the intermission so we might have one more

[00:40:46] venomous rain coming in the question mark but I think we might just be going pure intermission

[00:40:51] you can see the blue team going on one side the red team going over towards the green side

[00:40:55] one they use a cross marker how dare you they are going to be going into the intermission

[00:40:59] where each burst of damage does a um uh cause you to spawn orbs so let's see how they manage

[00:41:06] to do this as they need to rotate around and collect each other's orbs those orbs are

[00:41:09] are going off soon guys think about maybe collecting them soon they're going they're

[00:41:12] going there we go make sure you don't get three don't they exploded the

[00:41:20] orbs exploded they weren't quick enough it seems that you place it at the very

[00:41:23] beginning and you've got to pick it up before all of the explosions go off the

[00:41:27] you know so the pulses from the boss that's in terms of the time they need to

[00:41:30] do it's got to be quite a quick sort of speed maybe maybe I'm wrong I thought

[00:41:37] the orbs. One thing that I was now wondering about like okay so it is very possible that

[00:41:41] it's spotted but I'm also wondering if it doesn't do splash damage like if I'm soaking an orb and

[00:41:47] another person's very close to me. I don't believe it does splash damage but maybe getting three

[00:41:52] stacks does splash damage that's a dungeon general question yeah that unfortunately seems

[00:41:58] to escape me yeah we'll have a little bit of a look and see what's going on but a new best

[00:42:03] pool in terms of actual progression not like an exploration sort of scientific venture into the

[00:42:09] unknown with 10 players kind of cheese in the fight um excellent to see very very nice we actually did

[00:42:14] manage to get through the intermission so first phase two pool obviously the intermission was entirely

[00:42:18] scuffed but obviously not looking at the boss health involved the fact that we're getting through

[00:42:23] the first phase there's a replay all right let's take a look we see those swords coming down onto

[00:42:29] the orbs. Oh yeah the red ones exploded there I think. Yeah the red ones they

[00:42:35] exploded where the blue ones are just soaked in time. Yeah they were just a

[00:42:39] little bit short on time on the red ones. I think maybe they

[00:42:42] want this so the timing would work out. Yeah you can see the red ones

[00:42:47] definitely going up. It would work out that it needs to be a bit faster.

[00:42:50] You just have to be a bit faster. Yeah it might very well be worth having a

[00:42:54] little bit of a think as to how to best position being opposite sides of

[00:42:58] the boss might be a little bit trolling, or maybe you just got to start the movement a little bit faster or something.

[00:43:01] As soon as you saw your orbs, start moving, maybe?

[00:43:03] What I'm wondering is like, instead of having like a clump of the orbs,

[00:43:06] because the problem is that like the orbs that are the furthest away from you,

[00:43:10] like you first soak the first orbs and then the middle orbs,

[00:43:12] and then the last orbs, you reach really late.

[00:43:15] So maybe having them more in a line,

[00:43:17] so you can like walk together as a very kind of like a windshield wiper or something like that.

[00:43:24] Okay, if they do it, that is it.

[00:43:25] It's gonna be the windshield wiper strap.

[00:43:28] Big fan of that.

[00:43:29] But yes, it looks like the players have indeed

[00:43:31] gone for a little break.

[00:43:32] So we're gonna go and join them and get some lunch.

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[00:48:13] When we founded Starforge Systems, we had one goal in mind.

[00:48:16] Make the best computers possible for playing video games.

[00:48:19] Now, I don't personally play video games.

[00:48:21] I just react to TikToks, but wait, no, this is not true.

[00:48:26] I do play games.

[00:48:27] Who wrote this?

[00:48:30] I play games all the time.

[00:48:31] I played Diablo, New World, and well,

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[00:48:56] So I told him to get done.

[00:48:59] Yep.

[00:48:59] Even if the path was, it was a little bit scuffed.

[00:49:02] Yeah, you can see what happens here with the eternal night

[00:49:05] the damage is pulsing out across the raid so maybe uh now she doesn't die

[00:49:10] look there he goes therefore that was crazy

[00:49:56] we've been doing a little investigation i've got a scoop something's going on don't you tell me

[00:50:04] otherwise i've been i know i've been on the internet i don't know what's happening i don't

[00:50:09] we have no idea what's going on but there is something suspicious

[00:50:28] nice jingji jingji has been very much on for who is getting through those gaps

[00:50:32] A new best for Echo, Wall Life doing everything he can to get that boss that little bit lower,

[00:50:36] Merus refusing to fall into the twisting never, but unfortunately death comes to us all, Merus

[00:50:42] has the boss down to 8.5% off, Merus finally falling 8.74%, a new best for Echo.

[00:50:50] I think Revez is about 78 years old, that's my theory because we've never seen him in person,

[00:50:56] he's never come to any event, he's been here for years, he always rocks, I guarantee he

[00:51:00] He sits there with a cigar, a pint of bitter, and a brown shirt, and he just like, uh, kill it, moss.

[00:51:08] So what you need to do is every game when you get into chat you need a copy-pasted message.

[00:51:13] And what it says is, dearest teammates, I am much better than you are.

[00:51:19] So if you could please just focus on playing around me, that would be advisable.

[00:51:24] If you do not do this, I will run it down because you are wasting my time and I deserve to be in challenge.

[00:51:30] kind regards and every time they make a mistake you copy paste that put it in again

[00:51:36] and if they mute you you start pinging it's like hey i'm paying attention to you i was just wondering

[00:51:42] if kindly you could explain why you are so trash uh they sent me an amazon wishlist on it was one

[00:51:49] one item, just a boop.

[00:51:51] Ha!

[00:51:52] That is legit, buddy.

[00:51:55] So Mitch has been hearing phantom footsteps for weeks in a room occupied by Chris, and

[00:52:03] he's not doing anything at all, which leads me to believe that Jesse's a ghost.

[00:52:08] Please pull the boss.

[00:52:10] 6.8% for the bowler right now.

[00:52:15] This is going so well.

[00:52:16] Half the red remaining line with 5.7.

[00:52:18] We have a few more seconds before the final eclipse hits and clears the floor.

[00:52:21] Everyone getting hit by the last one. This is the big hit.

[00:52:24] We'll have a few people live.

[00:52:25] Narko alive, Mirz alive. Nice means alive. Revis as well.

[00:52:28] Nice means the last people alive is the bosses at 5%.

[00:52:32] Running around in Setherwok with the duck.

[00:52:34] Ticking. Oh, what a pull.

[00:52:36] They should be very happy with that. The boss going down sub 4%, 3.9%.

[00:52:42] something smiles across the faces of the players in Echo. I still feel like she would be worth

[00:52:49] trying. And I don't know if that is reason. I think it would be worth trying one pull

[00:52:53] where Kara wasn't on the couch since every pull since she sat down and it's been cursed. Yeah,

[00:52:58] I'd love that. Okay, Lou. Maybe at the desk or take a little break. The question is,

[00:53:03] will they can... No! She stayed on the couch too long. We'll be back tomorrow around 8.

[00:53:08] for the show to pick back up. Thank you everybody. Good night.

[00:53:11] You're not listening to me?

[00:53:23] I called for the show to end Mitch. Shaz is in a way.

[01:39:57] I forgot Zimba, man.

[01:39:59] The game where the points are like healers, they just don't matter.

[01:40:04] I'm joined today by Preach, somehow the most popular cat spirit, despite hating cats,

[01:40:08] loving feet, always smelling like beans.

[01:40:11] Very true.

[01:40:12] Alex, our own personal Bob Ross. Anytime you see him in a key,

[01:40:16] He says everything's fine happy little accidents, and then he dies. Yeah, that's about right

[01:40:20] Jordan aka okay mage actually short for okay read the mage again

[01:40:27] One of the smartest moon can players in the world which is like being the highest augmentation of ochre on the details meter

[01:40:32] Nobody cares. Oh, we've got medic joining Wow from the League of Legends scene

[01:40:39] Funnily enough when he joined the cast all the said wow until we saw his play which what we said lol

[01:40:47] And we're here to joke about World of Warcraft, a global game that recently settled the debate

[01:40:53] about metric versus imperial.

[01:40:54] Blizzard has made it clear they are only interested in feat.

[01:40:59] I'm Rose Pessie, let's have some fun!

[01:41:05] I'm going to ask some questions or set up a scenario and call on one of our contestants

[01:41:09] to answer.

[01:41:10] We'll start with an easy one, Medic.

[01:41:12] Oh god.

[01:41:13] Oh my god bless you.

[01:41:15] Can I quickly check?

[01:41:16] You guys can hear me in your headsets, right?

[01:41:17] Yes, you speak okay, cuz I can't hear myself. So I was just

[01:41:20] I have

[01:41:26] Things you can say in a raid that you cannot say in the bedroom, okay, you go do splits with Jinji. I'm gonna pull someone else

[01:41:39] Same question is it in the bad room you said yes things you can say in the raid but not in the bedroom

[01:41:45] Can you explain in detail while you failed the last time?

[01:41:53] Ohhhh!

[01:41:55] Alright, moving on to Mike.

[01:41:58] What the officers are actually talking about during the frequent breaks.

[01:42:02] Oh, that's easy.

[01:42:04] Yo, for real, do we really need to have Kalex in here?

[01:42:06] Like, it's three percent, but I suppose it's really worth it.

[01:42:11] Alright, Jordan.

[01:42:13] What would Jaina put in her Tinder bio?

[01:42:16] Urge you out here, because you have no option but to swipe.

[01:42:23] OOOOOOHHHHH

[01:42:25] That's not right Alex

[01:42:29] That's not right

[01:42:31] If it works it depends what part of Tindall you're on

[01:42:36] Alex, act out for us what Anduin was actually doing during dragonflight

[01:42:42] Oh, being a healer sucks, no one likes me, Jesse doesn't even play anymore

[01:42:48] I don't even love the light Eddie, boy it's me

[01:42:51] That was right, that's what he did right?

[01:42:56] That's exactly what I'm talking about

[01:42:58] arithmetic. Things you can say playing WoW that you should not say at work.

[01:43:03] Oh god, I don't have anything to do with this.

[01:43:08] There's gold there somewhere. We've got a mine for it.

[01:43:12] Things you can say playing WoW that you can't say at work.

[01:43:15] Ooh, this is such delicious food.

[01:43:18] Things you can say about your alts that you cannot say about your children.

[01:43:32] Say a lot about my kids.

[01:43:35] No I really love this one.

[01:43:37] Oh f**k of all it's a sink in, but...

[01:43:42] Wait don't even heal!

[01:43:44] Really? No?

[01:43:46] I'll screw them dude.

[01:43:48] Alright the remainder, we will be doing Surrage.

[01:43:50] One caster will act out what I give you

[01:43:52] and the others will attempt to guess what it is

[01:43:54] and I'm going to pick on Karo first

[01:43:56] with an easy one.

[01:43:58] Yeah?

[01:44:00] Zalatath.

[01:44:02] Don't take shoes off please.

[01:44:04] Wait no wait, hold on!

[01:44:06] Now we know what it is! How do we get one person? Can I commit? Can you tell the one person I tell the prompt?

[01:44:32] Okay, all right. Now I'm picking on Jordan.

[01:44:37] Oh, hold on. Please stand by as we're doing a little push-to-talk action,

[01:44:44] Routing the information through our audio software.

[01:44:47] Jesse actually has some free work out down there on the channel.

[01:44:49] Of course she was on to something.

[01:44:54] Alright, so Jordan's being given a prompt now that she has to act it out without using words

[01:44:58] and then you guys have to guess what it is.

[01:45:00] Okay, giving you some space.

[01:45:05] Okay.

[01:45:06] Is it a clown?

[01:45:07] Okay.

[01:45:08] It's a box.

[01:45:09] A box?

[01:45:10] Yeah.

[01:45:11] You're opening it.

[01:45:11] Great fault.

[01:45:12] A lot just just-

[01:45:12] There it is!

[01:45:13] Oh!

[01:45:14] Prince for money!

[01:45:15] Nice.

[01:45:15] Damn.

[01:45:16] Which means he gets to go next.

[01:45:18] Okay.

[01:45:18] Alright, so this is to Mike, Mitch.

[01:45:22] I don't like the uncanny silence.

[01:45:25] What people don't realise is Mitch is actually just standing under the desk.

[01:45:28] Ha ha ha ha!

[01:45:29] Chris enacted it as a rule a few years ago for other reasons, but now they just do it anyway.

[01:45:35] Alright.

[01:45:36] Mike now receiving his prize.

[01:45:37] Oh, okay.

[01:45:37] Can you sack this out?

[01:45:38] Come on, boss! We can do it! We just have to focus!

[01:45:42] So pretty, isn't it?

[01:45:42] Yeah!

[01:45:43] Ha ha ha!

[01:45:44] You know how to laugh or speak?

[01:45:45] Yeah, I've tried.

[01:45:46] Aw!

[01:45:47] Have you never played too much?

[01:45:48] I probably wasn't inventive when you were born

[01:45:50] What I used to do is get some coal and describe it on a board

[01:45:54] That's easy

[01:45:56] And the coal was from Santa obviously

[01:45:58] I mean why bring it up, it was a rough time

[01:46:01] It's a sad toy

[01:46:02] Can we talk about that again?

[01:46:03] It is usually, you're being given a prompt

[01:46:05] Oh god, um, okay

[01:46:08] Okay

[01:46:09] It's a little...

[01:46:10] It's a dog

[01:46:14] Hunter, like a hunter pet

[01:46:19] You should have barked

[01:46:24] No, this is a loud one.

[01:46:25] You've not got the rules in this game.

[01:46:26] Oh, damn.

[01:46:28] You got full into that.

[01:46:29] That wasn't the best for the camera angle.

[01:46:31] I realized I was facing you guys.

[01:46:32] Spot it over.

[01:46:33] Almost a sussie.

[01:46:34] Oh, damn.

[01:46:37] One coming in front of Gura now.

[01:46:38] All right.

[01:46:44] Olyria.

[01:46:46] Oh, it's like a staff or a scythe.

[01:46:49] Wait, which king uses their weapon?

[01:46:51] OK, wait.

[01:46:52] Hold on.

[01:46:53] Frostmourne.

[01:46:54] Atrox.

[01:46:56] Jinx from Arcane.

[01:46:58] Oh, what?

[01:47:02] Okay, so you're picking something up and then there's a tornado.

[01:47:04] Oh, you found something.

[01:47:06] You found some treasure.

[01:47:07] You found some amazing loot.

[01:47:08] He's growing.

[01:47:08] Oh, it's...

[01:47:11] What? Just treasure trove?

[01:47:12] Someone baseball?

[01:47:16] Ice cream.

[01:47:17] Fireily lightsaber thing?

[01:47:19] No, uh, epic drop.

[01:47:22] Attack.

[01:47:23] Yeah, blow up.

[01:47:23] I... I...

[01:47:24] The person you hit goes spirally.

[01:47:27] But I have no idea what that's about.

[01:47:28] Where are we put?

[01:47:29] Is it jammed?

[01:47:30] Are you calling medical name?

[01:47:31] This is a famous chat meme as well as being loot.

[01:47:38] Oh!

[01:47:39] Are you doing your gargagoo?

[01:47:41] Preyge?

[01:47:42] It's like a priest weapon?

[01:47:44] What?

[01:47:45] Do you just look holy?

[01:47:46] Famous chat meme?

[01:47:47] What from chat meme?

[01:47:48] Gargagoo?

[01:47:49] I don't go in chat.

[01:47:50] Wide Nessie.

[01:47:51] This is not the Susie.

[01:47:52] Oh.

[01:47:53] All done.

[01:47:54] That was...

[01:47:55] You're doing your DPS like a touchdown.

[01:47:56] Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Wind Seekers.

[01:47:58] Oh!

[01:47:59] That was pretty good.

[01:48:00] That was pretty good

[01:48:06] If I knew wow I'd be disappointed in myself

[01:48:10] All right one last prompt

[01:48:13] Going around this way. Oh starting with you Alex

[01:48:17] What production actually says to the casters? Oh most of the time heinous things

[01:48:22] What would you like me to choose?

[01:48:25] Most of the time is please Alex, just read the ad read once correctly, stop making stuff

[01:48:30] up, that's not the code.

[01:48:31] Jordan, the production is actually telling the casters.

[01:48:34] No, you cannot have cheese delivered.

[01:48:38] Mike, Mike production is actually saying to the casters that we have so many beans,

[01:48:43] Mike, you are never leaving this country.

[01:48:45] Carol, what have you been told by production?

[01:48:48] All they ever say is do you want more nuggets?

[01:48:50] Like nuggets?

[01:48:51] They went off on me one!

[01:48:53] And Medic, what Mitch has actually been telling you?

[01:48:56] Yes, my room is 307. If you just come over after the ball...

[01:49:02] Thanks everybody, that's for our show, Who's Cast! Is it anyway?

[01:49:07] I thought we were supposed to lie.

[01:49:13] Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the race world first off.

[01:51:13] after whose cast is it anyway I am Alex from FatBossCV and joining me is MikeReachGaming.

[01:51:18] Hello, hello, hello.

[01:51:19] I'm here for the good things.

[01:51:20] You are I for the good things. You missed some amazing morning.

[01:51:23] You got the kill, dude.

[01:51:24] Got a kill.

[01:51:25] I had a perfect game going and you ruined it.

[01:51:27] That's true, you've been on every kill so far.

[01:51:29] I got all the first five.

[01:51:31] Four, five.

[01:51:32] Yes, I got the first.

[01:51:33] I did get a brew keeper, which is a boss.

[01:51:34] Medic's got nothing yet.

[01:51:35] Yes.

[01:51:36] He hasn't.

[01:51:37] Absolutely ruined it.

[01:51:38] I told him just like when you see the boss at 10% just charge into the room

[01:51:41] the microphone's off and start

[01:51:45] shout casting, but now he's, uh,

[01:51:46] he's going to wait his turn.

[01:51:47] He was turned. Welcome because

[01:51:48] obviously it's so exciting here.

[01:51:49] We obviously have passed the

[01:51:50] princess echo back in that

[01:51:51] number one spot for now. God

[01:51:53] knows what liquid was up to

[01:51:54] in the night when they

[01:51:55] released their loggy wogs.

[01:51:56] Exactly. Yes. Liquid, of course,

[01:51:58] being all private at the moment,

[01:51:59] which is more than fair enough.

[01:52:00] No criticism. We've been doing

[01:52:01] it enough here. Um and yeah,

[01:52:03] when they turn their logs back

[01:52:04] onto public who knows how

[01:52:06] far they've gotten the players

[01:52:08] here have managed to get all

[01:52:09] the way to face three with

[01:52:10] 10 players. Such bait. The fight's kind of scarfed. Oh, I just say phase 3. It's true.

[01:52:17] We saw in rage, so the boss is dying any minute. We're just going to find 79.4% of the boss's

[01:52:22] health. Yeah, that leads to a day that's full scuff. Yeah, when we get a new best pull

[01:52:26] that is below that, the health percentage, then of course it will automatically update.

[01:52:29] But just to kind of fill you in as to what's happened. Of course, there's a finally

[01:52:32] going down over like 256 odd pulls for Ekko Mitchell's violence this morning. Oh,

[01:52:37] They were 2% in pull 2.

[01:52:39] Yeah, it was like 730.

[01:52:40] I got in, had my brekkie, made my way up,

[01:52:43] and I could hear them like, you can hear the players,

[01:52:45] how far they're into the fight,

[01:52:46] as to how much they're smashing down on their Corsair keyboards.

[01:52:50] They're going absolutely mad.

[01:52:51] Rushed into the room, had to check.

[01:52:52] 2% of, I was like, we got to get on the couch.

[01:52:54] Like, shoot, because they're going to kill this thing.

[01:52:56] And they did half past eight this morning.

[01:52:58] And since then, they've been doing some science, see?

[01:53:01] They haven't been hiding any of it,

[01:53:02] which is a nice thing to say.

[01:53:03] No, we're not going dark at 8am.

[01:53:05] No, not in the morning.

[01:53:06] I really hope not,

[01:53:07] because there's only so much that we could podcast and get away with.

[01:53:10] But yeah, they are now sitting in front of the Silicon Court, the boss that we've

[01:53:15] all been fearing in a way.

[01:53:17] They've gone from bad to worse is what's happened.

[01:53:19] OK, there's a brood keeper was that was pretty rough.

[01:53:22] You know, that's for boss five.

[01:53:24] That's that's hell.

[01:53:25] And then it was six and he went, I thought we were in hell.

[01:53:29] Now we're in hell.

[01:53:31] And now we're here, which is the one they actually thought was going to be

[01:53:33] happy and this boss is awesome.

[01:53:35] They've actually already made a strat that's got them all the way to the intermission cleanly.

[01:53:39] Obviously damage and I'm sure they can optimize in so many different ways.

[01:53:42] They constantly keep changing as well to the point where they don't even have them.

[01:53:46] They do have a munk in now, so that's good.

[01:53:49] But yeah, they're especially bad.

[01:53:51] I did see Robin's Blood Decay join temporarily,

[01:53:53] to aid in control of the scarabs.

[01:53:55] Obviously they are vicious on Mythic.

[01:53:59] They don't die very quickly at all.

[01:54:02] They take a long time.

[01:54:03] They have some nice damage reduction on them and they appear and they have a little wander around and you've got to control them for a long time

[01:54:08] You still have to blast them because they will die. But this this is all about friendship this fight

[01:54:13] I well actually I think of it as two different opposing teams that hate each other

[01:54:20] It's very cool the way that they've made this fight on normal heroic

[01:54:24] It's already I'd say like a barely challenging encounter for the different. Yeah, this is a big step up when even heroic

[01:54:30] Yeah, so um, but once you see how the mechanic works on

[01:54:36] Mythic difficulty where you have half the team being red team half the team being blue team if they ever come in contact with each other

[01:54:43] They instantly kill each other, but they keep dropping orbs at the other team needs to soak

[01:54:47] The way that they have to dance around one another in order to help one another

[01:54:51] It makes so much sense why the mechanics are like they are in heroic

[01:54:54] But the way that the web bomb is applied to certain people

[01:54:56] I was like that seems that seems like it's leading to something. Yeah, usually that people randomly chosen exactly like that

[01:55:02] It's like what we have a nice choice. You can choose your most stable most defensive your most tanky characters to go and deal with it

[01:55:09] And then you get here and you're like ah, yeah, yeah, okay

[01:55:13] But we have seen in submission which is also we were cooking strats so fast that it's because it's not just a case of like dodge

[01:55:19] The webs right in heroic every pulse of damage spawns

[01:55:22] Ones the orbs that need collecting and their room feels real fast and of course if you collect three dead

[01:55:28] So it's like okay. We have to spin really fast to avoid the webs. We also have to soak

[01:55:34] 20 orbs a time that come out and now it makes perfect sense why but as I said you can have two

[01:55:40] Because now that means you half the raid can soak one teams the other half can soak the other teams

[01:55:45] I've got a strap for this saying

[01:55:47] I like the quad angle damn that's what I was gonna say. Yeah, I thought I was so smart for a second that actually I think they shouldn't

[01:55:56] ate there we go said it

[01:55:58] Yeah, because the problem we saw of the obvious and seen intuition once in the whole life is that it spins too fast

[01:56:04] For your debuff to reset which means you'll have to stagger the soak at least it looked that way from the first time

[01:56:10] I'm a god knows what Roger's been doing. He's been smart. He's out on the table

[01:56:14] do you see it? You know, Smarty's out and he's going, well, this goes here and this goes here.

[01:56:18] I was like, yeah. And he was like, well, look, you're the M&M. You come in here and do this.

[01:56:23] I don't want to be the yellow M&M. He brings Lego with him to every race. He's like this,

[01:56:27] his little characters. He's made like little Lego people of each of the Raiders. He's like,

[01:56:31] and I'm nice memes. And I go there. This is our Roger Cooks. We talked about the

[01:56:35] couple. You've never seen it in person. And it's a wacky experience. It's honestly

[01:56:39] disturbing to be present here. It's just it's so emotional.

[01:56:42] Well, he was still focused on Nexus Princess that I came into the kitchen. He was literally

[01:56:46] making a Nexus Princess out of mashed potatoes. It definitely works. This way he's got beer

[01:56:52] masses, Paul. It's like scribe. Just just follow me on this one.

[01:56:56] It's going to make total sense. As the ready check does go out and we'll talk you through

[01:57:02] what's happening on this bus. So you guys are up to date because we're going to

[01:57:05] behavior a while I reckon. Although this is a very strict change again from Blizzard's

[01:57:10] design philosophy. We obviously have the AoE fiesta with a little bit of choice on Brutal,

[01:57:14] which was brutal but manageable and it required a little bit of coordination from the team

[01:57:19] to get done but it was more of a like almost like the gear check. It's like you get past

[01:57:23] this you're okay. And they had mathed out perfectly that Nexus Princess was doable.

[01:57:27] And what we've seen is huge comp shifts, heavy melee, Zerg, smark over on Brutal

[01:57:32] the full range, pretty much over on Nexus Princess.

[01:57:35] Now we've gone with the balanced approach here,

[01:57:37] which might not be correct when we're talking to the raiders.

[01:57:40] They're like, you can go full range, you can go full melee,

[01:57:43] you can do a mix, you can kind of do whatever the hell you want.

[01:57:46] Generally going into a fight though,

[01:57:48] sticking with a balanced comp

[01:57:49] and then finding out the pros and cons is definitely,

[01:57:51] you know, there's all science to be done.

[01:57:52] But one thing you've seen here is that indeed

[01:57:53] the players have chosen their sides,

[01:57:55] red team and blue team.

[01:57:56] Red is up to by the little icons above their head.

[01:57:59] Whenever you're hit by pretty much any mechanic,

[01:58:01] you will spawn a little orb of your color.

[01:58:03] That orb needs to be soaked by the opposing side

[01:58:05] so you can see the range where it's doing a nice little ring

[01:58:07] around the roses.

[01:58:08] It's so cute.

[01:58:09] It's so cute.

[01:58:10] So can each other's orbs.

[01:58:11] If an orb goes too long on the ground without being soaked,

[01:58:13] it will explode and kind of screw over the opposing team.

[01:58:16] So if a red orb explodes, it kills all the blue orb

[01:58:19] at the side where it plays as a dot on them.

[01:58:21] You can see the boss here using three webs

[01:58:23] to be stunned this time around,

[01:58:25] very successfully done.

[01:58:26] Yeah, nice damage, team buff.

[01:58:27] Whenever they counter one of the boss's main mechanics,

[01:58:30] like the charge on the Sting and Swarm.

[01:58:31] There will be a damage amp,

[01:58:33] because obviously it's a huge amount of HP on these bosses,

[01:58:35] but you do get these brief windows of vulnerability.

[01:58:38] You can see it's gonna run out in four seconds here.

[01:58:40] You can see that on the week or as all the guys

[01:58:41] have to make sure that they are blasting as hard as they can.

[01:58:44] Now, unfortunately, going down, it seems like the damage

[01:58:46] from the tank hits a little too spicy,

[01:58:49] but a battle has gone out.

[01:58:52] You do not ever lose your mark, just to let you know.

[01:58:55] Two players dead, most of the time in this fight,

[01:58:57] you see two players dead, chances are

[01:58:59] It's an opposing side hitting each other, just like we also see now going down once more with, I can't see who that is on the top left, but yes, unfortunately some of the marks are going out.

[01:59:08] But you can see all of the orbs on the ground that do need to be collected. I think we have a few too many players dead in order to successfully get these, because you can only soak a maximum of two at any given time.

[01:59:17] If you hit a third one, you will instantly die, which of course is sad times for all involved. But we haven't got the webs for this particular charge.

[01:59:23] charge. You can already see how fragile this fight is. Some testing going on, some giling

[01:59:28] out of some new strategies there. Yeah, it's good. You're not coming to fruition just yet.

[01:59:32] Come back to what we were saying before. It's like, so we had Nexus Princess, which was

[01:59:36] Blizzard was actually, although that fight is excessively mean in its design, they were

[01:59:41] kind of kindly letting you reset at the door. They didn't lock you in because they knew

[01:59:44] this was going to be a very short, very brutal fight that needed to be reset sometimes.

[01:59:49] They knew you weren't going to make it all the way. So they gave you a free

[01:59:51] reset. This one though, a little bit meaner, a little bit meaner with the restrictions that

[01:59:59] are put on the players, but now you can combat res can do that little bit of freedom to come

[02:00:04] in to counter the meanness. It does seem like in all the horrors we've seen in this raid so far,

[02:00:08] Blizzard has been a little nice. Give you something. Yes. Give you a little something. It's okay.

[02:00:15] We'll give you something. Unless you're one of the 200 guilds waiting for a boss to appear

[02:00:19] that is killable this week in which case you get nothing! You lose! Good day sir!

[02:00:24] Unfortunately having to wait until next week, hopefully, and I'm saying this, I

[02:00:28] think they should nerf Brew Twister in the upcoming week. The guilds are

[02:00:31] really working on it as part of like a world-first sort of scenario. Race to

[02:00:35] world-first it's already gone by and it would be nice to have a boss that is

[02:00:38] approachable for more guilds. Obviously it's going to be naturally nerfed by

[02:00:41] getting gear from the vault, getting a new reset worth of mythic kills,

[02:00:45] But I know there's a lot of guilt right now kind of a little bit

[02:00:49] Rightfully frustrated. Yeah frustrated. I would argue that there's just the raid length isn't quite long enough to have that wall that early

[02:00:56] Yes, you know if there was the way worked particularly well in other raids like sepulcher is that and the win was a good end boss

[02:01:02] We have the same image so smoldering was a good end boss for week one outside of the race to world first

[02:01:07] That was something you could steadily work towards you didn't need to anything fancy

[02:01:10] So even though gear is coming in you look at the comps these guys have put to go

[02:01:14] It's not like most guilds can feel five frosty case away just out not and then go okay now skip all them now

[02:01:20] We need like four arcane mages and five evokers or whatever. Yeah, that's just not realistic

[02:01:24] So I would totally expect that they have planned nerfs for Nexus princess and for Brutus on Tuesday

[02:01:30] When the US reset happens method have plenty of time as does

[02:01:35] Hotpot hero, I believe they're called

[02:01:38] That's correct

[02:01:40] way I took some research into it and it seemed conclusive it's that if I'm wrong I'm really sorry

[02:01:46] but there you have the time to have a go and they're obviously at sub 10 percent sub 2 percent

[02:01:51] per method to get that down as the US reset does roll in in 24 hours and so so it'll be interesting

[02:01:57] to see that they've got that planned because the rest of the guilds right now the feedback we've

[02:02:00] had from friends and everyone else is like dude it's full scuff we killed Rashaan day one of

[02:02:03] raiding yeah and we just can't do anything like unless you're a seven day guild who have

[02:02:08] done multiple splits and multiple characters you do hit that four that four out of eight mark

[02:02:13] it's just like now what we're just gonna do mythic plus during our evenings we want to raid

[02:02:18] it's obviously it doesn't stop you from progressing brew twister as an example it just gets into an

[02:02:26] unkillable position right now if I was raiding I would send us the brew twister because you

[02:02:30] just have everyone go AoE comp just so you can do as much we don't care about boss health and you

[02:02:34] just survive and you learn as much as you can yeah you manage how to move around you know how to

[02:02:38] move out and all that sort of thing. So there's still prog to be done, don't get me wrong.

[02:02:40] It's not as despair, but we just know that there's no way we're going to get a kill,

[02:02:43] we just don't have the comfort for it. It looks like they are indeed setting up a new pool

[02:02:46] here. You can see the week or as telling the players which icon to get. Very important.

[02:02:52] If we did have a few troubles at the beginning, as people get a bit lost, we can see.

[02:02:55] Blue's left, red's right. Group one and group two on the raid frames are going

[02:02:58] to be getting blue, and group three and four on the raid frames are getting red.

[02:03:02] So if you ever see someone from group one and two, and someone from group three

[02:03:04] for die at the same time is very likely best from a collision. So you are going to be seeing here,

[02:03:09] if we could jump to a range perspective, mayhaps, we can see this little bit where they are going to

[02:03:14] be doing a ring around the rosies as they're going to be soaking each other's orbs whilst the melee

[02:03:18] are doing a full rotation around the boss. So it seems like you're doing a pair strat at range

[02:03:22] and a giant group strat in melee, making a lot of sense as we do need to do all these tethers.

[02:03:26] And you can see on the tether side, all the blue players on one side and all the red

[02:03:29] players on another. Yeah, it's going to be so much, this fight is all down, so you're

[02:03:34] literally individual player control and positioning. This is such a strategy fight, tends to favor

[02:03:39] liquid in a lot of cases when they have this scenario, but because consistency is everything

[02:03:44] in this fight. We're going to be doing phase one a lot, you do not want to be wiping them

[02:03:49] more than it's absolutely necessary because you need to get through phase one to proc phase two

[02:03:52] and phase three is different again when they both gain their banger mechanics and have to

[02:03:56] be done simultaneously. So it's going to be a case of consistently getting through this kind

[02:04:01] kind of got a Queen of Sharavive in that way. It's like we need to park the end so we can't be and kill Jadam is kind of the same

[02:04:06] Is we can't be scoffing this up. It's not like we can train it. You can already see the rules going into action here. Look how

[02:04:14] Jinji and Wolf move here in terms of going around each other

[02:04:17] They always go around each other in a clockwise fashion in order to soak each other's orbs

[02:04:20] That's just something that they always doing at this point

[02:04:22] So you're gonna see them both spawn an orb here as they go to soak

[02:04:25] Jinji using immunity just moments ago in order to make this region get a debuff

[02:04:29] You can see what's going they need to soak each other's orbs. Oh, this is going a little bit pear shape

[02:04:32] And maybe they would get a little bit. There's still one red with the middle, but there we go. Oh, they're both going get it

[02:04:37] There's almost someone's gonna get it. That's perfect. We are have pop bloodlust chef

[02:04:42] I guess we're gonna be using after the intermission as the last big damn is coming in of this phase

[02:04:46] And we are going to be making our way over to let's see what strategy they end up using as players need to start

[02:04:51] Getting into some sort of position. See the red?

[02:04:53] You're in pairs.

[02:04:55] Look, you can see Wolf Disco and Jinji

[02:04:57] already just staying together.

[02:04:58] They're just gonna soak each other's stuff

[02:05:00] and they're just gonna vibe here.

[02:05:01] Is that gonna allow enough time for this to drop up?

[02:05:03] They obviously, it's just a time or so.

[02:05:04] Yeah, yeah, yeah, like you only need to soak one orb.

[02:05:06] It's just, you're gonna be far away from your healers.

[02:05:08] There's no point being together.

[02:05:09] As long as you're on an overlap point,

[02:05:10] you can see there's one position.

[02:05:11] Oh, there's just gonna do a little spin

[02:05:12] around the whole raid.

[02:05:14] That's it.

[02:05:14] That's so cute.

[02:05:15] And it's gonna keep soaking over and over again.

[02:05:16] It's gonna be rough for healing

[02:05:17] because people are gonna be so spread out

[02:05:18] but they are going for like,

[02:05:19] a melee pair like group strategy going on but for the range they're sticking with their pairs

[02:05:23] and just going to do little rotations around each other. I tell you what Al, this is so cute.

[02:05:27] It works. Yeah, we haven't got it right in the first time we tried it but yeah it works.

[02:05:31] The proof of concept for the range position for sure is definitely something that's working out

[02:05:37] here. Unfortunately going to three stacks is going to be the end of our good friend

[02:05:42] Wolf Disco here. One of the orbs blowing up elsewhere of course giving him that stack

[02:05:46] but um very cute. I like that a lot. There's something uh kind of interesting that's going to

[02:05:52] happen here uh it's a new best by the way. Oh levels are broken through the shield.

[02:05:56] Yep. Um just it's going to be very very important here that your comp to kill it

[02:06:02] is found real kind of cool as soon because what's going to happen here with this pairing

[02:06:07] and holding hands mechanic is you're going to get very used to your partner's movement and

[02:06:10] position and when that changes so usually what they do when they have a situation like this

[02:06:15] is they tell the person who's going to be coming in, let's say perfecto's coming in,

[02:06:18] watch this person for like six pulls because you need to do what they're doing because the

[02:06:25] partner is now fully ingrained that I know exactly like Genji will be like I know exactly

[02:06:30] where Wolf Disco is he's always going to be there and this is how we move you're out

[02:06:33] this is how it's going to happen you need to mimic that entirely so they'll be looking

[02:06:37] to try and settle in what that comp's going to be as soon as possible instead of having

[02:06:41] reprog individual movement because there's no way they can micromanage that that's between the pairs to organize

[02:06:45] Yeah, I think that's probably more important for the range players in terms of how they're doing the strategy right now

[02:06:50] It feels like for melee you're just one big

[02:06:53] Group that comes around me on this. Yeah, it'll be great actually to do a melee path for sure

[02:06:59] Because yeah, it does feel like you're largely just doing large group movements as you're cycling around the boss

[02:07:04] So very very important for range though 100% agree

[02:07:07] And it was like they're playing completely different fights.

[02:07:09] Can't do what Nice Beams is going to do in here,

[02:07:11] because Nice Beams could not stand still.

[02:07:13] Oh.

[02:07:14] He's jetting all over the place, right?

[02:07:15] Like you can see him smile, and he's like,

[02:07:17] I'm going to kill everyone.

[02:07:20] Are you telling me I can't fell, Roche?

[02:07:21] Like, what am I supposed to do here?

[02:07:23] Cush has, of course, demonstrated

[02:07:25] the power of the secret lab titan there.

[02:07:27] If he could go any further back to play his character,

[02:07:29] he would.

[02:07:30] Oh, perfecto.

[02:07:31] It was so cute this morning.

[02:07:33] Obviously, he was watching the race from his bed.

[02:07:34] He wasn't in far Nexus Princess.

[02:07:36] he wasn't going to be in, so he got an extra hour or so in bed, he was watching the race.

[02:07:40] A second they killed it, he was like, oh Jesus, and he sprinted out of the hotel,

[02:07:46] still like had his jacket getting on, he had his bag on his shoulder, he came through the door,

[02:07:50] he's like, they killed it, they killed it! And he had to go in, it's like, am I in? And he's like,

[02:07:53] no, it's like, god damn it, just go about a bit, get out of here. Yeah, he ran so fast to get

[02:08:00] into the building because they killed it so quickly this morning, he was fully expecting

[02:08:03] like an afternoon kill to happen on Nexus Princess but he was in and he was good and he was ready to go.

[02:08:08] You guys are excited, aren't they? They were so excited after the kill this morning. So,

[02:08:11] so excited. It was great to see the, the mood was already good in the venue. It was like,

[02:08:18] they were very happy. They weren't like sad yesterday when they didn't get the kill. It was

[02:08:21] like, going to be great if they managed to get that kill early, but it didn't actually

[02:08:24] matter that much. It is only the sixth boss, even though it was such a Titan to take down.

[02:08:29] What is he giggling about? I mean he's really enjoying himself. What's happening?

[02:08:34] Just loves this boss. That's that's

[02:08:37] Laughing at how easy the ranged is usually

[02:08:41] Laughing at looking at a ranged POV and they're just like doing so much work every time I talk to the

[02:08:47] Bella. They just take the race as such scum. He's creasing right?

[02:08:53] I don't know. Oh man. Yeah, maybe it's just a fact. He's got to play DH in a fight where

[02:08:57] you can't go anywhere that is still going oh man perfecto's in there anyway he's just like spitting

[02:09:07] up over there but you can see here this is what the melee do they wrote around in a big circle go

[02:09:11] from right to left and soak their boys because they need that damage and cleave onto these scarabs

[02:09:16] at the same time we have had a few deaths so uh i might be a quick go again angle yeah go on

[02:09:20] standing things boom boom boom big damn but um yeah one of the weird mythic changes on this

[02:09:26] You know the scarabs they slowly have they have a big damage reduction. Yeah at the beginning and it's slowly drops off over time

[02:09:31] Just so you have to stick around

[02:09:35] I'm sure Blizzard was like they're just gonna full blast these

[02:09:39] And that's not what we want them to do. They don't like any they could see to have got a problem

[02:09:44] Recently, I'm you've seen this in a couple of the raids where they just don't like

[02:09:48] You nullify a mechanic with damage

[02:09:51] And so they like maneuvered some things to be like no no no no you're not gonna do that

[02:09:55] We'll give these a damage reduction because we don't want you just gripping them all locking them down parasites sure because you're dealing with like the

[02:10:02] The big spiders and the worms at the same time right you've got a lot more things to focus on and you're gonna have to do like 70 times

[02:10:07] Which means there's a damage profile to be found for everybody

[02:10:10] I think with here is like we don't want you spawning fix their abs and we give you

[02:10:14] So many grips like DK's I've got doubles the standard DPS can double grip. We've got slappy hands on everybody

[02:10:19] Yeah, got mass grip you've got vengeance that can do the same thing. We've got infinite knock stunts

[02:10:24] It's like yeah, you can guys can do all this so we're just gonna make them

[02:10:27] So they have to hang around for a while kind of like the frack ads in the other phase

[02:10:30] You know we're required oh, yeah, you're right. They didn't last once they were grouped up

[02:10:34] They didn't last very long but we're still doing it was pretty rough

[02:10:36] Well, don't have hanging around for a little while Mike you're doing that. I'm not

[02:10:40] Come to an end. Yeah, it's one o'clock. Why do you even get out of bed? I did ten minutes of work. Yeah

[02:10:45] But it's not work is it so much fun? Oh, I'm excited back for having me. I'm gonna continue to watch this

[02:10:50] This looks awesome. I'm going to be taken over by Jordan, so you're going to have okay

[02:10:55] mate.

[02:10:56] Oh, she's here. Awesome. Ta-da. You're out of frame. You're out of frame the entire time.

[02:11:04] Hey!

[02:11:05] So we're going to have a quick changeover, and I will leave you be. Thank you very

[02:11:09] much for having me. See you guys in a little bit.

[02:11:11] Hi, Alex. You've changed.

[02:11:35] Yes, hello. Welcome to the FatBoss Guide.

[02:11:38] Welcome back, everybody. Yes, we've got a quick cast to choose there. Alex, go

[02:11:41] to have a nice, relaxed seed. Of course, had that awesome princess kill this morning. What

[02:11:45] did you think? Yeah. I saw you were awake. I was. I don't know. There must have been some

[02:11:49] sort of energy this morning because I was up, bright-eyed, bushy tailed at 6am. I was like,

[02:11:54] look at energy. And they did so well. I think it was like the second pull. They got it

[02:11:58] straight down to their new best try at 2%. And then it wasn't long after when they killed it.

[02:12:02] It's like nine pulls total, I think, this morning, to get it done, which is why I

[02:12:05] found it really odd last night. I went back and I watched the remaining hour they had

[02:12:10] before they went to bed from my bed. I was watching along and I was watching

[02:12:14] Scribes POV and we're still having those little deaths all the time. There was not

[02:12:18] a tilt, there was nothing, they were laughing and joking, they were fine.

[02:12:22] They were absolutely on pace for everything they want to do where we're

[02:12:24] feeling like stop dying and kill it because we know we can do it and it

[02:12:27] went on all day. Yeah absolutely. When we went on our little break I was

[02:12:32] expecting to go out maybe then to feel a bit down because it's so

[02:12:35] punishing right we have to talk about the boss because what what a great boss to watch

[02:12:41] but you know they were in such good spirits they were laughing we had a ginger come on

[02:12:46] moment as well yeah they weren't jumping up and down yet because obviously liquid did pick up the

[02:12:50] kill in the night but they were very happy the other round of applause actually i've not seen that

[02:12:54] one before they were all like good good job everybody good job everybody well now we've

[02:12:59] got a new nightmare there's wonderful melee doing their circles around the boss trying to control

[02:13:04] these scarabs and it's a little awkward because obviously they are a little spread there's melee

[02:13:08] camps on both sides you would love to have these all on top of every melee to get that cleave going

[02:13:13] and you can see that damage reduction uh Jordan this is the day around for a while these kids

[02:13:18] yeah I mean I was expecting this to be much more chaotic especially in phase one but look they're

[02:13:24] so they're so cute they have the little bodies they've got the little body system they run around

[02:13:29] Well we go

[02:13:31] We go and get our little Orbeez. I love that the melee grieved the closest one for uptime and like whoever's slow screw you

[02:13:37] That's your own damn fault

[02:13:39] That is your own damn fault. You should have been there to get it done

[02:13:43] So they're going to cleave obviously on these bosses. It's a shared HP pool guys

[02:13:47] So that massive HP pool will be shared and we do have some damage amps. This looks for me

[02:13:52] This is gonna be the mechanical skill check fights not really a raw output

[02:13:57] Yeah, I and also you can go through a lot of the fight without having to meet certain HP requirements because it's on a timer so they can probably see quite a lot of this fight similar to the

[02:14:08] princess nexus princess kaiveza where you can essentially see the whole fight and then find the damage as you go through progress as they get in these lines really neat aren't they?

[02:14:19] They're getting better.

[02:14:20] And then this is the damage amp where the boss is taking increased damage.

[02:14:23] I thought my vocal was redgank then just charging it with the score. We love the monkeys. It's going on like who

[02:14:31] Like a little traffic light system, isn't it? Yeah, it is a little bit

[02:14:34] But look at this is what I was saying to Alex is this positioning aspects

[02:14:37] You see the way Wolf just going Jinjin knew exactly where to meet that obviously it's the green marker

[02:14:41] But that habit needs to be ingrained into them over the course of this fight because consistency will be everything to get through this

[02:14:48] This little circle is cute, isn't it?

[02:14:50] Also, what do you think of the intermission? Doesn't this look nutty?

[02:14:53] Yeah, it does. Can we go to melee, actually?

[02:14:55] Because I think they are just charging into the red orbs.

[02:14:58] You can see the dot timer there, so it runs out in two seconds.

[02:15:01] So they do have just enough time with the rotation.

[02:15:04] There's got to wait for the webs to explode.

[02:15:06] And then they can shuffle over, pick up their orbs.

[02:15:10] One's left. Got it.

[02:15:12] Not bad. We lost Mires, which is unfortunate.

[02:15:16] But we should be able to continue for a little bit here, but they're through the intermission the shield is down

[02:15:21] This is phase two. Yeah, this is

[02:15:24] Good for them actually

[02:15:28] They've absolutely flotted out this fire, I thought there was running another one tank strap

[02:15:32] I see now and then nestled in the raid frames. Yes

[02:15:35] He is in there is that bringing that verse buff canyx once again

[02:15:38] Temporarily benched as we've seen for the last couple of buses

[02:15:41] Cannex only ever gets temporarily benched to relax put his feet up and then later in the day we summon the Cannex and bring him in

[02:15:48] It's the intricate boomkin rotation

[02:15:51] You know you can only execute a few times for the use of the brain cells

[02:15:55] Well, I found funny is we did a count this morning, Jay

[02:15:58] Only the 31 players on Echo's roster right? Wow only seven of them have played one class in spectus raid

[02:16:05] Progress in mythic progress now

[02:16:07] I'm talking about heroic splits and things like from my guess going through the roster only seven players

[02:16:12] It's like Rycin has only been a holy priest as far as I know

[02:16:15] Nice beams. No, not nice beams because he's played Havoc and he's played vengeance

[02:16:19] He tanked on brood twister and he's gone back there. Fragos played everything and it's really

[02:16:25] Ridiculous how much Blizzard went. Oh, you're making 18 up characters interesting

[02:16:30] Absolutely done that this tier they usually they have a lot of character prep

[02:16:34] and then there could be a boss that may need a unique composition but that's usually very rare.

[02:16:39] Largely the comp kind of stays the same, you may swap in certain players in and out as we go,

[02:16:45] but I don't think we've ever really been through a raid where we've had such

[02:16:49] differing comps boss by boss with Rude Twister requiring a really unique comp,

[02:16:54] a lot of melee bringing four DKs in and then Kaiveza also bringing completely different

[02:16:59] comp with mostly ranged and we had four mages so it's almost like they've said yeah you know what

[02:17:06] all this prep i wonder if you have four mages it's almost like blizzards testing them in a way of like

[02:17:12] uh let's put this prep to good use for sure liquid had five evokers at one point this is why we're

[02:17:19] fully expecting nerfs to those two bosses uh tomorrow because the rest of the guilds are like

[02:17:25] dude we can't play this sucks we can't field rosters like that it's just not

[02:17:29] reasonable for us to play around with that but of course we did have a big

[02:17:32] course air giveaway earlier on and we have even more course air stuff

[02:17:36] that's going to be on its way as more or two more bosses to go with stuff for

[02:17:40] you big thanks to course air we're obviously spotlighting this mouse that i

[02:17:43] might swap to uh with the mmo mouse the

[02:17:46] cemetery but i'm changing my mind for the dark star

[02:17:50] with negora i think so with the big fat buttons because i know a lot of

[02:17:53] of people don't like those you know the little buttons are you a little button

[02:17:57] player or are you a big button player? Yes, I've always used an MMO mouse so I use this one exactly.

[02:18:02] You're using the Sabotage right now. Where do you slide it? I don't I just leave it as it is.

[02:18:08] You can move it though. You can move it but it's really comfy for me to just have it as it is.

[02:18:14] Yeah I'm thinking of going dark start. I keep every single MMO to different buttons.

[02:18:19] So you've got two choices there dark start of MMO and MMO mouse but the dark start as well

[02:18:23] which has the big more MOBA style buttons attached to the side so I'm thinking this one I prefer I use a MOBA mouse now

[02:18:30] Yeah

[02:18:32] Yeah, we're both kind of the same on this one as we like the bigger the bigger juicier buttons that you get on the dark star

[02:18:37] I really struggle with how many buttons there are in in wow especially especially every single expansion

[02:18:44] You get more and more buttons right so you can easily run out keybinds

[02:18:47] I need to key bind Ice Lance to all 12 of them, like, or my scroll wheel.

[02:18:54] This is plenty. Glacial sp- look, check it out right with the Dark Star. Easy. Glacial

[02:19:00] Spike are here, Ice Lance there, Blink, Ice Block, done. There's your whole mage attached

[02:19:11] to one single mass. Yeah, easy game. And then you can maybe have a little fancy one

[02:19:15] the side for arcane intellect. That's how you do it. A big thanks to Corsair for giving

[02:19:20] all this hardware not only to the players but to you guys which is what we've been giving

[02:19:24] away alongside all the boss kills with the Corsair boss drops and of course when we get

[02:19:29] to Roger's treasure trove lurking in here my friends there's many more Corsair things

[02:19:33] lurking inside. Make sure you stay tuned for that because we'll have some stuff coming

[02:19:37] up for you in the next little while as the guys get ready. I'm wondering if they

[02:19:41] are going to shift compi comps sooner rather than later here if they're spotting errors.

[02:19:46] Yeah it doesn't seem like this boss yet is requiring too much of a scuffed comp or unusual

[02:19:54] comp or class stacking, although we do have the 3D caves. So we'll see, yeah there could

[02:20:00] be some swapping depending on what they need, but what looked like absolute chaos, because

[02:20:04] you know, not on Heroic, this is a very chaotic fight.

[02:20:08] I think he's coming. I think it's happening again. I think they've ruffled in the trash and they're summoning the bin. Oh

[02:20:15] I think he's arriving

[02:20:17] The Sun smiles on the raid team get it wide. It's getting wide. It's getting orange

[02:20:22] I think he's on his way because Robin's now on a death night and you can't play without the orange God

[02:20:28] Oh, yeah, I think he's coming. I think he's once again been called upon. I'm looking for his screen

[02:20:34] I could see it on our side

[02:20:36] Behold he has arrived. He has risen once more we are blessed

[02:20:46] That's how he talks behind the scenes

[02:20:49] Yeah

[02:20:50] You think he'd have but you know he's got that nice, you know like nice smooth complexion and nicer chill

[02:20:55] Look, you think it'd be all nice and here he comes. Yeah

[02:20:59] Yeah, they just never let him rest

[02:21:01] No, they never let him rest. And now he's here once again to save the day

[02:21:06] Thank praise be mark of the wild

[02:21:09] Well, yeah, but coming in dragon flight

[02:21:12] Everybody versatility across the entire raid. Yeah, blessed be the mark of the wild

[02:21:17] We can't play without it get in here. Can't X praise be raid bus says the one class that may say that

[02:21:23] Yeah, I mean say what you want that raid buff has been doing wonders for our boy cannecks this raid right every time

[02:21:29] they think he's out he'd pull him right back in and here he comes I can't get rid

[02:21:33] of me no you can't like he's a stain wonderful he is wonderful he's a great

[02:21:42] player he's super fun to be around and it is his first race to up first event

[02:21:46] what oh you say he's like a bag of Doritos here comes the tangy cheese

[02:21:54] Here he is covered in feathers and dust ready to stain your fingers. It's cannex

[02:22:02] You brought it up not me. I do not claim this

[02:22:07] We need this image updated with like sprinkly orange dust mark the wilds flying everywhere

[02:22:13] Just to let it know here comes 3% first baby

[02:22:16] But also this would be great for him actually this fighters got you know, it's got multi-dot cleave

[02:22:20] We've got the ads that are up for ages. You'll be able to cast staff ball and watch it. It does nothing

[02:22:24] Yeah, I wonder if the vortex will work on the ads. Yeah, just food. So, yeah

[02:22:28] He has a lot of utility because that's something I've noticed as well within the boss encounters and the designs

[02:22:32] Is they're not only testing the players on their DPS output creating very tight DPS checks very tight healing checks as well

[02:22:39] But also really tight utility checks. We saw that on brood twister a little bit and fracking

[02:22:44] Phase two for example, it's really tested them in all aspects. That's something that I keep noticing

[02:22:50] I really appreciate and these ads have been proving to be a little bit annoying running away with their fixates

[02:22:55] Because you want them to be stacked under the boss so they can get cleaved by a little damage

[02:22:59] So having a little bit more control and kind of rotating that round will be really strong in their

[02:23:05] planning

[02:23:07] Strategy yeah, that's how he does because he's gonna have to lose

[02:23:10] Who's his partner gonna be? Oh, who would you like to be your partner?

[02:23:14] So, for you, Chia, who do you want to be your bestest friend on here to spend time with?

[02:23:19] Because it was a melee that went out, it was Narko out, I think it is.

[02:23:22] Oh, perhaps. I would pick Tanex, because who wouldn't want to be a fluffy wind in.

[02:23:27] Oh, Minkins of no choice is selfish.

[02:23:29] But they're so fluffy, cute and cuddly.

[02:23:31] They're hate-filled monsters.

[02:23:32] Oh.

[02:23:33] They really are.

[02:23:34] Like, look at the examples, Nogura, end of story, right?

[02:23:37] She is scary.

[02:23:38] Just riddled with rage, from start to finish, just a boiling pot simmering, waiting.

[02:23:43] bubbling over yeah you saw it this month this afternoon when she when we

[02:23:47] got some dessert rage built you threw it at Skype oh yeah she did you didn't see

[02:23:52] where it came from but I saw no we know you got away with that one she's always

[02:23:56] at it yeah that was the very jiggly desert wasn't it it was remarkably

[02:24:05] jiggly well we was all in the castor room with our jiggly dessert it was

[02:24:09] flan testing the jiggle physics yeah it was uh inspirational as well as it was

[02:24:17] it was inspiringly jiggly it was all amused by how jiggly the dessert was anyway

[02:24:25] it was jiggly don't blame me jiggly like an uberash here yeah so we're gonna have to balance

[02:24:31] this out somehow so nice beams and mini now i'm now mirrors can't really be pals okay so that's

[02:24:38] still works. The enhancement charm. Hello Pa, we have the buddy system, it's very very cute.

[02:24:44] Is Thanos playing in Melee? Yeah, because the boss would consider him Melee. I don't know if there

[02:24:55] are no Melee specific mechanics I guess. Hmm, yeah I'm wondering, well follow mechanics to see who

[02:25:01] he's been paired up with, because everybody needs a pair here that is reasonable to where your

[02:25:04] position is going to be, especially if they're going to do this intermission where the range

[02:25:07] like at the back in a little hand-holdy situation and see where they're going to go.

[02:25:11] Thanner is super happy by the way. I'm not trying to say this out of context because it is what happened.

[02:25:15] It's me, Wolf Disco, and Thanner are in the men's toilets and we were having a conversation,

[02:25:20] like we do, that's our gathering place, our meeting zone. And in there he's like,

[02:25:25] I get to play Holy Paladin. I can't believe it. I actually get to play my character

[02:25:31] as I want to play it because he's been ret on Brute's wisteria was evoker and I think he you think he got to play Holy Pond on the first

[02:25:39] Ball which was like a total of five pulls

[02:25:41] Yeah, he's been doing amazing actually because he's gone from various healers

[02:25:45] And he's also played DPS, gone from healers to DPS because I was talking to

[02:25:49] Wolf Disco when we had our sit-down with Secret Lab and Wolf Disco's a

[02:25:54] really really excellent player who plays multiple classes, but he frequently swaps between

[02:25:58] melee and range and sometimes even that small switch can be a big kind of it can

[02:26:04] be very jarring playing at the different distances let's say and the different

[02:26:09] mechanics but they know going from healer to DPS and doing very well on

[02:26:13] Brutrister as well it was very impressive and certainly has been a

[02:26:17] great new addition obviously at that save but what was that boss Jordan where

[02:26:20] Fanna got the kill.

[02:26:22] Oh, did he have her?

[02:26:24] Did I have the bomb guy?

[02:26:26] It's a scorn.

[02:26:28] Yeah, that was Fanna's trial raid.

[02:26:30] Yeah, yeah, you were along the road then.

[02:26:34] That bubble bee that they killed.

[02:26:36] So if Fanna killed Honeybee, lovely.

[02:26:38] As you remember.

[02:26:40] Praise bee, our queen.

[02:26:42] Praise bee, our queen.

[02:26:44] Yeah, he saved her. That was his trial raid.

[02:26:46] And what a moment, what an impression he made

[02:26:48] with the Ankh kill on Sascarn.

[02:26:51] Oh my goodness, I remember now.

[02:26:53] Yeah, it was great.

[02:26:55] Oh, that was an epic cliff actually.

[02:26:58] Yeah, that was his first time.

[02:26:59] His name was mentioned in the Echo raid pretty much.

[02:27:01] And it was like, who was that?

[02:27:02] It was like, Thanner, wide stance, die boss.

[02:27:06] Ankhing up and saving the raid

[02:27:08] and getting the kill for them.

[02:27:09] And now he's here and has been performing exceptionally well

[02:27:12] for the whole team.

[02:27:13] They'll be very, very happy with him.

[02:27:14] A great addition to the roster with Jesse,

[02:27:16] of course, abandoning them.

[02:27:17] That holy paladin spot unbelievable. Yeah, how he's just carrying us through

[02:27:22] Mythic zero and he's blaming me for having to wear socks

[02:27:25] well

[02:27:26] That's apparently my fault

[02:27:28] Yeah, only you I'm sure just me. I'm the only I'm the problem between Jesse's bare feet and the floor

[02:27:36] Not allowed on the couch. Well, it's it's a chat spot actually apparently they have an issue with slippers

[02:27:41] Slippers? Yes, this actually was Chaps fault as it always is. He has his snuggly slippers

[02:27:49] that he's brought to every single race, like his little comfort slippers and it has a little

[02:27:53] hole in the bottom of it and Chaps will call him out for it on day one. There's a hole

[02:27:57] in your slipper so now you've got toes. See what we've done. We've got socks. And we're

[02:28:02] back to socks. Yeah, we're back to socks. We're back to get in there to keep Jesse's

[02:28:05] these little wrigglers off the couch,

[02:28:08] these little wrigglers,

[02:28:09] we don't need more feet around here,

[02:28:11] that is the damn sure.

[02:28:12] We've needed minimized.

[02:28:13] No more feet.

[02:28:14] Yeah, that's why I was worried about Nagura.

[02:28:16] I didn't even clock during whose cast

[02:28:17] that they told us who she was supposed to be.

[02:28:20] I was like, Zalata, it's a feet thing,

[02:28:22] don't take your shoes off.

[02:28:23] Yeah.

[02:28:24] I didn't know either.

[02:28:25] I didn't know.

[02:28:26] Who's only one medic pointed it out and think Alex?

[02:28:28] I was like, wait, hold on.

[02:28:29] Oh yeah.

[02:28:30] I heard it as like doing impression.

[02:28:32] Yeah.

[02:28:33] That's how I interpreted what was going on.

[02:28:34] and said right do Xalata and I was like oh so it's like an impression okay yeah

[02:28:38] that's Xalata that's what I'm gonna say I'm pretty sure

[02:28:41] and then I did it dawn and he's like wait this is not how this works I still got it

[02:28:45] wrong apparently I talk I mean it was difficult oh you did very well I think

[02:28:51] you got the great bubble which was lucky because I was on the chest would be

[02:28:54] excited well I know but I wasn't sure where to go after the the box

[02:28:59] Count to nine maybe

[02:29:01] Try to choose and then be disappointed. I was gonna re-enact a weekly no leave as mythic plus

[02:29:07] Have you been keeping up? Have you done your box? I have yeah, I did a plus four

[02:29:12] Well, you are quite the little star. Yeah, did you time it or was it shambles? No, but that's not point. I

[02:29:19] Now have a plus three

[02:29:22] I don't think I've ever done a plus going in reverse

[02:29:25] But it's not really a plus three. They changed it all so you can it's okay

[02:29:30] Yeah, that works out. Yeah, you're okay

[02:29:34] I did my plus six or whatever it was or five or whatever necrotic wake which everyone was giving me ebg

[02:29:41] This is about there seems to be a bit of a stigma going around about the mythic bus scenario

[02:29:44] They're like this is so hard to like it's

[02:29:46] I've been seeing yeah, cuz the raiders who are not in optimize in their time

[02:29:50] So they're constantly mythic plus and every time it pans over to one of them who is in the mythic plus

[02:29:54] There are 20 deaths and they are way over the time on their first minds. It does look very hellish.

[02:30:01] Ah, here we go.

[02:30:02] Ooh, is it going to be cool?

[02:30:03] Can we go to Canex? I would love to see who his partner is.

[02:30:06] There he is. Stop focusing on that. Canex, focus up. This is your moment.

[02:30:10] You got this.

[02:30:11] You're not just a versatility buff. You're more than that.

[02:30:14] You mean more.

[02:30:16] You're kind of fluffy, do you?

[02:30:18] Make sure you're getting that. That was a lot of work to get over this.

[02:30:20] Yeah, I thought it was a huge amount of mess there.

[02:30:23] All the way across the arena.

[02:30:24] So if you don't pick your coloured orb at the start, you will actually die.

[02:30:29] But you get a permanent debuff.

[02:30:31] Even if you get resed, you are going to die again

[02:30:33] because the boss will put a dot on you that persists through death.

[02:30:37] So you have to really make sure that you are picking up.

[02:30:39] Oh, you're just playing melee.

[02:30:40] Yeah. I mean, I feel like that's the play

[02:30:43] because you have to soak the orbs.

[02:30:45] You have to drop the orbs.

[02:30:47] And you kind of have to stay out of the way of everybody else as well.

[02:30:49] as well. Alright, because he's got to drop his off in melee so a melee can soak it. That's

[02:30:53] why I was looking for the odd one out because it's not an even distribution of melee enraged.

[02:30:57] So for now he is going to be playing and his job is to kill the adds suspected. Now the

[02:31:03] damage meter is clearly broken and he's doing a really, there we go, there we go.

[02:31:09] Now he's doing his job, he's okay. Yeah, that's exactly what we expected to see is

[02:31:13] like cycle around. So he's going to be playing like a melee, mink in, spread AoE, control

[02:31:18] the ads type scenario, which fits really well for for a moonkin actually that's this actually suits.

[02:31:24] Yeah, this fight has a really unique damage profile as well because the bosses sometimes

[02:31:29] can be stacked but not always because I think we had Team Spider and Tomb Crab but

[02:31:36] Tezesh is it? She will jump away at various points. It's kind of you've got some single

[02:31:42] target, you've got some cleave, you've got some AoE with the ads but also you've got the

[02:31:46] the vulnerable damage phases. But the vulnerable damage phase came in at 50 seconds and now

[02:32:01] this damage phase coming in at around 1 minute 45. They're very awkward with the timings because

[02:32:07] you wouldn't want to hold all your cooldowns on pull. Holding your cooldowns for 50 seconds

[02:32:10] is not great, but then you also want to optimise the window where the boss is vulnerable.

[02:32:15] I haven't played DK this season and I haven't played Breath, but people kept assuring me

[02:32:20] they changed Breath of Cindergoster to be less annoying.

[02:32:23] That's a lie.

[02:32:24] I was going to say, I don't think so.

[02:32:26] No, that is a straight up lie.

[02:32:28] That's what that is.

[02:32:29] Who is he hanging out with at the back here?

[02:32:32] So we have at Mira's go down.

[02:32:34] Oh.

[02:32:35] Oh, he tried to make the save, it was unfortunate.

[02:32:37] He's throwing himself on that grenade to try and help the team, but they are

[02:32:41] obviously going to be wiping here, going into the air some intermission.

[02:32:44] They'll be back up shortly because they didn't get to prog the new bits that they're on

[02:32:48] But yeah, they everyone kept to show me. He's like that's not bad now. Oh, it's okay. Well, they're shaking

[02:32:59] It's like oh, what did they do to it and they're like, oh, it's fine

[02:33:02] I was like, how did they make it so you just like pressing and just does it and things like that

[02:33:05] No, it's just the same just a bit shorter and still full of orangey crap

[02:33:09] It's extremely punishing, isn't it? You have to try and maintain your breath of syndragosa

[02:33:13] but it's very difficult to execute it reminds me a little bit of surrender to madness in from shadow priest

[02:33:18] Is it a similar? It's not that bad, but it's more a case of anything that's downtime

[02:33:23] And it's also susceptible to rng and so the ruin regen so you can sometimes if you get good rng

[02:33:28] It just goes forever and then sometimes it just doesn't and you lose so much damage when it happens

[02:33:32] by the way, we had a DK referendum

[02:33:35] yesterday because mini came and sat with us and

[02:33:38] Mini was how many have been playing some frosty cake and doing some chilling

[02:33:42] And then he went, I went, I did play Heroic Estee though and all the cooldowns line up badly and he goes, dude, yeah, for real, they totally suck.

[02:33:50] They absolutely suck. And then the Perfecto joined us and he's like, oh yeah, every boss is designed to hate on the Frosty UK.

[02:33:56] And I'm like, well, we can't say that. They're really cool. But yeah, making angry made me cross.

[02:34:01] But in good news, I know some of you have, well, in fact, a lot of you have been asking when they were going to be here because we had them in the last race.

[02:34:08] They are now here my friends. Can I unwrap this to give it the proper beans on the quality?

[02:34:14] Yeah, yeah, because people won't understand how cool these are if they're in the wrapping

[02:34:18] But we have the official

[02:34:20] Race to World first display that has the signatures the proper signatures of all the players

[02:34:28] From echo on it the signed ones like we always bring back but normally that they've done them in the proper texture

[02:34:34] Can I get the lights to glimmer? There you go, you can see it.

[02:34:36] Yeah, you can kind of see it on camera.

[02:34:38] There you go. But that is a beautiful finish.

[02:34:41] Look how beautiful this thing is. It is awesome. This is the best one they've made yet.

[02:34:45] It's got that symbol in there and they've put everybody's signature on it from all the team that is here.

[02:34:49] So if you've been enjoying this race, we have the cheapest site-wide discount code on

[02:34:54] Displates right now on the website, so you're thinking of picking it up.

[02:34:57] Let me make sure we've got everybody.

[02:35:28] and then you also have the texture finish.

[02:35:29] Yeah, you can see there, I'm trying to glimmer it

[02:35:31] with the light, but you can see it's fully embossed.

[02:35:34] Yeah, cause it's kind of like elevated a little bit as well.

[02:35:37] Yeah, you can see that it's got full texture,

[02:35:38] it's fully embossed, and even every signature

[02:35:41] is also embossed, you can see how can it's is there.

[02:35:43] Oh, it looks beautiful.

[02:35:44] Yeah, it stands out a good amount

[02:35:46] to give the full embossing, so.

[02:35:47] Even with the crab sprue as well.

[02:35:49] Yeah, everything's embossed on it,

[02:35:50] it's really nice, the texture life displays,

[02:35:52] there's lots of variations of these on the site,

[02:35:54] and obviously our code works on too,

[02:35:56] if you want them or you want to get a big crab daddy I assume there's a spider

[02:35:59] one as well I would think yeah there'll be a spider version of that but that is

[02:36:02] the official one that's in full sexual life you can see the textures on it there

[02:36:08] that is now available just arrived here we've literally just got them ourselves

[02:36:11] I think they've just turned up in the building yeah they're now ready I got

[02:36:15] very excited when we were brought them I think we're supposed to hold but

[02:36:18] I was like hold don't say nothing yeah well till they're ready yeah

[02:36:25] Yeah they're really cool, the texture life ones are really nice, you've got a port of

[02:36:28] mighty wall and something that's not just a flat one, the flat ones are great obviously.

[02:36:32] Yeah that's a very very nice finish and we have the huge discount for you, code ECHO

[02:36:38] for up to 30% off so make sure that you're having a little look.

[02:36:42] There are lots of designs on there.

[02:36:44] Wolf disco signature is just wolf.

[02:36:46] I'm wolf.

[02:36:47] I don't want to have it next to me because it's so pretty but...

[02:36:53] I'm happy mine, the quacken support mine.

[02:36:55] You've got Namazoo power on yours.

[02:36:57] Yeah.

[02:36:58] Yeah, you can make that work.

[02:36:59] You're not gonna bend it, are you?

[02:37:01] No.

[02:37:02] You do get wild over there sometimes, Jay.

[02:37:03] Yeah, well, you know,

[02:37:05] if you have a fine Chucky's in the couch,

[02:37:07] it's not me, it's Alex.

[02:37:07] That's Alex.

[02:37:09] He's been quite good on his Chucky's.

[02:37:10] Yeah, I've been on the Chucky hunt in the sofa.

[02:37:12] There's nothing.

[02:37:13] Oh, did he forget to speck ursals?

[02:37:16] Uh-oh.

[02:37:17] Ha ha ha, keep it.

[02:37:20] Uh-oh.

[02:37:20] like give this kid a chance he walks in I'm not sure if that's what it was it

[02:37:30] looked like he was specking into ursals and they were laughing at it drop a

[02:37:34] dursal my key binding is not working scope there must be some kind of problem

[02:37:39] found it that's what it is no I need even more button in the cemetery of

[02:37:47] dark starting many many more buttons well it surprised me so I think is it

[02:37:50] Karo is still playing with just a two button mouse.

[02:37:54] Yeah?

[02:37:55] Yeah.

[02:37:56] I think so.

[02:37:57] What is that?

[02:37:58] Yeah, I don't know how anybody just goes by keyboard, keyboard buttons.

[02:38:01] My hand doesn't reach most buttons.

[02:38:02] I can barely reach F.

[02:38:03] And that's a stretch.

[02:38:04] I kind of have to move my hand a bit.

[02:38:06] So I really need the MMO mouse because otherwise I have no buttons.

[02:38:11] Have you got a K70?

[02:38:12] I want a hand for scale.

[02:38:14] I can't read.

[02:38:16] That's why it's so good.

[02:38:18] We're going to break this bridge.

[02:38:20] It's so easy as well.

[02:38:22] The production stuff answering me.

[02:38:24] Hold it. Hold it.

[02:38:26] Okay, I won't break it, I'm told.

[02:38:28] I'm really curious for your hand for scale.

[02:38:30] Hold on.

[02:38:32] The keyboard the guys are using by the way.

[02:38:34] K17. It's wonderful.

[02:38:36] Okay. Normal size keyboard.

[02:38:38] That is heavy. That is a beastie

[02:38:40] robust keyboard. Holy crap, that's heavy.

[02:38:42] Alright, your hand. Go.

[02:38:44] Alright, so it goes like this.

[02:38:46] W put your things under you

[02:38:49] Like this hand, but yeah, it'll be like more like here. Okay. Oh

[02:38:54] Is that all you can reach like almost reached you that's insane. It's I'm very limited

[02:39:00] I'm like

[02:39:02] There's me I can't reach tea. You can't use anything

[02:39:06] I use all these keys of the buttons. Yeah, I use all the keys. I use all these all the time

[02:39:13] I can't play with that honestly. Well there you go. Little hands. Do big things.

[02:39:25] But Ragnage in the world. Big damage. Big deeps. Big ice arms. Big glacial spikes actually.

[02:39:30] Yeah we almost saw the mages go frost. I saw that and Jinji and Hopeful were playing frost earlier.

[02:39:37] saw that only briefly then they full full bind it yeah I mean well did that damage

[02:39:44] jumps yeah you get a passive cleave from the frost obviously you got splitting ice

[02:39:46] going on but at the same time you got these damage amps which are King kind of

[02:39:50] slides into really nicely for mega burst yeah it could be that the arcane school

[02:39:54] down timings line up way better for the vulnerable phases because frost

[02:39:57] ages a little bit more consistent damage as opposed to burst but even if you're

[02:40:00] out of frozen or be still get some ice lances and you can get your glacial

[02:40:04] spikes to chunk at the boss when it's vulnerable as well.

[02:40:07] Oh, these guys are so much better at this.

[02:40:09] You're banned?

[02:40:10] I was.

[02:40:11] Apparently, Heal-a-Talk is worse than Mage Talk.

[02:40:13] No, Mage Talk is worse than Heal-a-Talk.

[02:40:14] So do Jesse.

[02:40:15] No, it said all of chat and Jesse.

[02:40:18] Oh, that's a double whammy.

[02:40:19] Who cares about Heal-a-Talk?

[02:40:21] Get a block.

[02:40:21] Ha ha ha ha.

[02:40:22] Honestly.

[02:40:24] Jesus.

[02:40:25] Well, I was very excited to see the Frostmage.

[02:40:28] Nobody cares about the Firemages.

[02:40:29] Oh, they got a buff as well.

[02:40:31] Yeah.

[02:40:31] 5.4% buff the first week and then they're getting an additional buff. Yeah from what I'm told though

[02:40:37] It's actually just a rotation that's annoying

[02:40:40] Yeah, you keep buffing us, but it just kind of sucks to play

[02:40:45] It's fire was very much a burst damage profile as well

[02:40:48] But it's moving a lot more towards a consistent damage profile or it had to be

[02:40:52] And then it was combust was a little bit less potent. It was on off cooldown more regularly

[02:40:59] It's kind of becoming a little bit more like Frost with Arcane having the crazy burst.

[02:41:03] Right, it's not an easy solution, I don't think, because they're right, I've maint Firemage

[02:41:10] for all of Legion pretty much, and so we had to change.

[02:41:14] It is annoying if something disrupts your combust, you might as well just half stone out, like

[02:41:19] because all your damage was your combust window.

[02:41:21] This is a big wiper, you guys.

[02:41:23] A little bit of miscommunication.

[02:41:25] Do you like the fact that the players have this circle around them so they can actually see how close they need to be to each other?

[02:41:32] Oh for sure!

[02:41:33] This is such an imp- before, we wouldn't have this visual, so you would kind of just have to get a feel for it.

[02:41:38] Yeah, you'd just say it's five yards, yeah.

[02:41:39] You'd have to get a feel for it and kind of judge or use a weak aura to see the distance so you wouldn't run into people.

[02:41:45] So the fact that, again, we've got way more visual clarity in the base game, the fact that they've got that little circle around them,

[02:41:50] it's the visual indication of how close they can go to each other.

[02:41:53] So I saw that was like, yes, more of that please.

[02:41:56] I don't know if it is, but I know somebody at Blizzard

[02:41:59] who's a massive promoter that is Tina,

[02:42:01] who's in charge of this kind of thing,

[02:42:03] with the graphics and things like that.

[02:42:05] And she has a real pet peeve with any ground effect

[02:42:09] that isn't crystal clear on its borders.

[02:42:13] Cause they used to do things like it would pulse

[02:42:15] to a certain point.

[02:42:16] And then you wouldn't,

[02:42:16] you'd see the edge on the maximum radius of the pulse,

[02:42:19] but then it would disappear and pulse again.

[02:42:21] And she's she was very adamant that like when they went back to change some of the dungeons to like mythic plus

[02:42:27] You know some of the older catarons now mythic plus and they're working all the way back is the biggest issue

[02:42:32] She ever is like the effects are just horrendous. They're not clear

[02:42:35] They need to be clear like it's very very important

[02:42:38] So I wonder if she's of some involvement in doing that with

[02:42:41] Going forward because we I mean even for act

[02:42:43] They did that perfectly red effect to make it abundantly clear where it was and only in this one Brutes was there

[02:42:47] which I think was totally intentional,

[02:42:49] so that during the enraged you had that added difficulty.

[02:42:52] There's no ads, but now there's purple pools

[02:42:54] that won't show you on top of a purple pool.

[02:42:56] So you've got to coordinate movements to get away from it.

[02:42:59] Yeah, and it's like it adds that tension

[02:43:01] in those final moments of trying to get the boss down

[02:43:04] while the goo is filling the room.

[02:43:05] And yeah, the visual clarity is slowly going away

[02:43:08] adding to the difficulty, I think absolutely right.

[02:43:10] I feel like they've done such a great job

[02:43:13] with tuning this race.

[02:43:14] Oh yeah, the math that's been going on.

[02:43:16] I've been trying to convince Alex, right?

[02:43:18] Alex is still, in my opinion,

[02:43:20] living in the Razorgeth Aberyst days

[02:43:22] when they just like, oh, we know,

[02:43:23] if it's by 50% lul because we miscalculated

[02:43:26] or we dropped beer on the calculator or whatever.

[02:43:28] But like, in the last couple of bosses,

[02:43:30] the little tweaks they did to the Nexus Princess,

[02:43:33] which were like slightly more, no, no, no, no, no,

[02:43:35] wait, wait, wait, slightly less,

[02:43:37] but it was not big jumps.

[02:43:39] Told me they were crunching a lot of numbers

[02:43:41] of like how much can these raids do?

[02:43:43] We saw a boot twist,

[02:43:43] like the kind of damage they can do with Vantus.

[02:43:46] wanted to use the Vantus because remember that many characters can Vantus

[02:43:48] here because they have to use our Nexus Princess and what exactly the raid can

[02:43:52] potentially put out in maybe a one tank environment if and we know it's doable

[02:43:57] because that'll take up your combat residency not gonna have them so you

[02:43:59] have to play perfectly like they've been so delicate and mean and thoughtful

[02:44:05] about ways the guilds could get around mechanics and make it easier

[02:44:09] themselves and they found counters and blocks everywhere that when I saw the

[02:44:14] HP on this which has changed today it was like 13.5 or something like that

[02:44:19] it's had a very very tiny delicate change to its HP which makes me think they've

[02:44:25] gone yes that's the one that's the one a little bit of number crunching I wouldn't

[02:44:33] be surprised if it's Ian himself behind the scenes like Dr. Claw from Inspector Gadget

[02:44:39] you will not do it again but I think we've been joined by someone because

[02:44:41] he's spotted something and he wants to come and tell us about it because he's

[02:44:44] that is in the logs is Mr. Analyst himself, our main host of who's cast is it anyway.

[02:44:50] Mr. Jesse, what's happening pal?

[02:44:52] Hello, hello, I am indeed on the hunt digging the logs back into it for the day after our

[02:44:58] fun little show. When I have something ready I'll let you know but a lot of interesting

[02:45:02] stuff going on in this bus for sure. It was fascinating watching them do the 10 player

[02:45:06] pulls earlier.

[02:45:07] Yeah, I missed that earlier.

[02:45:10] How did they pull without getting both buffs? That's why I was interested. The kills

[02:45:13] someone and they read them and then you can just carry on from there I did then

[02:45:17] they just have everyone go into the correct one but the other one a lagro

[02:45:19] walking or no doesn't just stand still if you don't is that what happened I missed

[02:45:24] the pull of easy I was like how did they pull without you would think once

[02:45:27] ones activate the other one would just walk over the beetle really follows

[02:45:33] you around so you just stood still okay so they went in earlier with 10 out

[02:45:39] of 20 players to test some things I assume. Yeah basically so each boss

[02:45:45] applies this debuff that you've seen the two different colors and you can only

[02:45:50] have 10 players with each color. You can't get more than that. It just doesn't

[02:45:54] work which is very good because otherwise the fight would completely break.

[02:45:57] So they just went in with 10 people all got one color and the other color

[02:46:01] orbs those orbs just don't affect anybody. So they essentially

[02:46:04] eliminated the mystic mechanic from existing at all by only playing with

[02:46:07] 10 people all with the same color. No one of the other color to be affected by the rovers,

[02:46:10] they didn't matter at all. So they could ignore the orb mechanic and progress really, really

[02:46:14] far into the fight in terms of mechanics, because the boss operates exclusively on a

[02:46:19] timer instead of with her health thresholds, allowing them to see essentially the whole

[02:46:22] fight's timers. Can't kill the boss that way, nowhere near enough damage. There

[02:46:26] is thankfully a hardened rage, there is thankfully time limits, so you can't just

[02:46:29] fight it for 30 minutes that way and cheese the boss. That would be a fairly bad exploit

[02:46:33] that would get fixed by Blizzard. And hilarious. That would be a teaspoon the boss angle. Yes,

[02:46:39] very quickly. But it's, it was great to see this, especially because the timers have changed

[02:46:45] significantly from the PTR, which is what we found out is like they planned all the

[02:46:49] stuff they did test this boss with this mechanic on the PTR. But now they've come to the

[02:46:52] live version of the timers are all different, which meant all their purpose, not in

[02:46:57] the bin, but you know, it needed some readjustment, tweaking, like health, a little bit of

[02:47:02] tweaking and the timers are very different when you go across the difficulties as well

[02:47:07] from normal to heroic to mythic timings can change too so that's why they can get a vague

[02:47:13] idea of the fight but until they go on mythic that's when they can really tell what's going

[02:47:19] to be the process I would say in terms of sorry I'm so distracted by melee this is

[02:47:27] This is Team Melee and every time it's on nice memes pop it really tickles me.

[02:47:32] Yeah this is the rogues in their natural habitat of just somebody's probably talking but whatever.

[02:47:37] I stab boss.

[02:47:38] Yeah it's just like cushioned perfecto having the most sibling energy where they're just

[02:47:43] like squabbling or trying to out horizontal pop each other at various points.

[02:47:49] Yeah they are ultimate rogues they are just these in this is when you think of

[02:47:53] the rogue in your guild that you've never met in real life that you play with every

[02:47:56] week this is what exists on the other side of that microphone is full a if

[02:48:01] they if we could I swear to you we can get secret lab beanbags for them to

[02:48:05] raid from they would sink into them and they'd just be like arms sticking out

[02:48:10] of a giant beanbag like just that's all they would be I swear to god the

[02:48:15] rogues don't care about nothing the demon hunters are nice be upright I've

[02:48:19] got a dance I've got a play everywhere I've got jump up and down all over the

[02:48:22] place the rogues like you mean shadow step okay there's a mechanic cloak

[02:48:29] yeah I don't understand anything there's like a decision protector like little

[02:48:34] kids on the school trip and then nice memes is kind of like the teacher like

[02:48:37] come on well that's teacher that look he's trying to motivate his look at dad

[02:48:41] Mother Roger

[02:48:43] You need to focus kids

[02:48:45] Can you at least sit up?

[02:48:47] No

[02:48:49] Hostage check

[02:48:51] I'm not going to do nothing, I'm chilling

[02:48:53] I always get wary when Roger

[02:48:55] I just saw him go to Thanos PC and then he's around Amiraz's PC

[02:48:57] It's like he's going around, he's probably asking him if they need

[02:48:59] He's the mother root

[02:49:01] You want a biscuit

[02:49:03] You want a picky

[02:49:05] You want a picky, I'm Roger Bad, you want a picky

[02:49:07] You can see him going to cycle around to Amiraz

[02:49:09] is there. Can we go to MIRES possibly production if possible? Yep, told you. There he is. Chatting.

[02:49:16] MIRES, what a big, big. Oh. Well, what are we reading, dude? What do you mean? Oh, they're

[02:49:24] having the best time. Oh, of course, they're ahead again. Yeah. At least for now. We obviously

[02:49:29] have no idea where Liquid got to in their off hours and what they got up to, but we will

[02:49:35] certainly find out late this afternoon as to where Liquid got, because they turn off their

[02:49:41] trackers so we don't know. As they go do when they go back. It's not strange?

[02:49:46] No. And we'll see where these two are. Of course, I could all have a day and a half

[02:49:52] to work on the silken quartz. Do not ex- Jesse, Jay. That works.

[02:49:59] Do we? Can I just say how confusing it is when you say Jay and I look at you and Jordan?

[02:50:03] Anyway, go on, go on.

[02:50:04] Yeah, yeah, she's, she's Jay, always.

[02:50:07] You're definitely Jesse.

[02:50:09] Very good.

[02:50:10] Um, do you think it's going to die in a day and a half?

[02:50:15] Nope.

[02:50:16] Oh, where do you think the problem is going to lie?

[02:50:18] I think the sword mechanics is very, very hard, particularly in the end of mission.

[02:50:22] It is predictable and counterable, though.

[02:50:24] It is.

[02:50:25] If the slicers weren't variable, I think it would be much easier.

[02:50:29] But the fact that they're variable sometimes just messes up your strategy and pushes you

[02:50:32] around so much that you can't do a reliable, consistent, easy strategy of rotating around.

[02:50:36] They go out in different parts of the room every pull, not the same area of the room that goes off.

[02:50:43] What's your thoughts?

[02:50:45] I actually think they could, if they really pushed, I think they could get this down this week.

[02:50:53] But I don't know if they will.

[02:50:55] Exactly, that's such a good point because they may think it's more important to do other things.

[02:50:59] prep for next week's reset and to simply push this boss as hard as they can. With an extra

[02:51:03] five item level from the reset, the boss will be significantly easier. They might think it's

[02:51:06] more valuable to make sure that the Mythic Plus faults are filled, perhaps doing Mythic

[02:51:10] splits to get additional loot for alts that haven't been in Mythic yet. All those things

[02:51:15] might be more important. And of course, sleeping, because on Wednesday they're going to be

[02:51:18] getting up bright and early starting the new reset. So progressing this boss as

[02:51:22] far as possible might not be at the top of their list.

[02:51:24] Do you think if we see something like them hit and rage?

[02:51:27] Because like I said, it's mechanically solvable.

[02:51:30] They've only been at this for a couple of hours and they're already sort of getting

[02:51:34] into the intermission.

[02:51:35] They've got a working strat for phase one.

[02:51:37] We're going to have a similar process in phase two.

[02:51:39] Obviously, the big charge from Chungus is going to go away.

[02:51:43] And then we'll have a Spider Lady doing her suckin' – I'm calling him Chungus.

[02:51:48] What's he really called?

[02:51:49] I've got a rash or whatever he's called.

[02:51:50] I just call him the beetle.

[02:51:52] Yeah, we're calling him Chungus from now on.

[02:51:54] Chungus and...

[02:51:55] Here comes Chungus into the wall. There you go.

[02:52:00] Drive by Chungus, just displaying his power.

[02:52:04] Good lord of the way.

[02:52:09] That's Chungus. That's how he rolls.

[02:52:11] That couldn't have been more perfectly timing.

[02:52:16] What I'm saying, so when they get a working strat for P2,

[02:52:19] we just have to stick it all together,

[02:52:20] So that's gonna be easy in phase three.

[02:52:23] That's gonna be super free.

[02:52:25] Yeah, because phase two after the intermission,

[02:52:28] what was we calling, it's a new vresh and...

[02:52:31] Chungus and Spider Lady.

[02:52:33] Okay, so Spider Lady.

[02:52:35] Tissage, I think she's a real name.

[02:52:36] Tissage, Spider Lady, you'll have the dispels

[02:52:41] that you deal with in Heroic,

[02:52:42] but you'll have five of them.

[02:52:43] I don't know how necessarily difficult

[02:52:45] that phase is gonna be,

[02:52:46] you just need to have those five players

[02:52:49] closest to the boss while they get dispelled. Could be solved with a master spell for example.

[02:52:55] I mean I think they're going to pop for like 64 million.

[02:52:58] Oh because they do yeah yeah yeah yeah. I was I was thinking that they you

[02:53:02] this has been doing a really good job with the kind of anti cheese.

[02:53:05] That sounds too easy for the bosses but it's been designed this week.

[02:53:07] If it could be nullified with a master spell which would dispel the five of them at once

[02:53:12] all in one go that would be as you said way too easy so they do explode every time they

[02:53:16] do to spell. Yeah and uh I mean it might be the case they can do that but they're gonna have to

[02:53:20] stack up there's always a counter to it right they have to stack a million defensives uh to get

[02:53:24] around it so you can do it. Yeah we've seen them before. It's got to suck all your defensives away

[02:53:28] and I imagine a little bit based on what we saw in Exodus Princess is Blizzard hasn't in mind

[02:53:33] all the different ways they could solve it and there's a one way they think you have to do it

[02:53:37] and it's horrible because that's kind of what we saw in Exodus Princess is like yeah you can

[02:53:41] do all these things but really you're going to end up going down this road we're pretty

[02:53:45] sure but every now and again the players do catch Blizzard out and they find a method that's usually

[02:53:50] where someone like Roger comes in and sees something they didn't and comes up with some interesting

[02:53:54] play to get around what Blizzard intends will we see that here I don't know because we haven't

[02:53:59] spent much time in P2 yet we have got there a couple of times relatively clean they have a working

[02:54:03] strategy what do you think of the strategy for the the circling around the boss now where

[02:54:08] they do the little pairs it's quite nice right we were talking about this weren't we because Roger

[02:54:12] loves naming the different strats fruit. Oh what's he called it? I don't think he's called it that

[02:54:18] but we were saying it should be called nectarine because the difference. It's uh it's particularly

[02:54:23] fun to watch on the Warcraft Vlogs replay feature. Oh yeah? It's just spiraling around from the top

[02:54:27] view. If you want we can pull it up. Oh for sure. Let's do it after this poll. Yeah let's get

[02:54:31] that ready because I bet the movement here actually looks really pretty. Like synchronized

[02:54:36] swimming almost like that right? Yeah, they're a aerobics session. Is that the water version?

[02:54:43] Yeah, like the the water aerobics because we all have to swim in circles and things like that and do a

[02:54:47] little water dance to make it work. But we'll follow along with nice memes here to see how he's

[02:54:52] coping in this intermission assuming they make it. So of course we're just joining us guys,

[02:54:56] these blue team versus red team and blue team and red team just touched each other and now

[02:55:00] they're dead and they're also wet people. So if you want to choose your color at the start

[02:55:05] You can see nice means here is part of blue squad you get hit by any mechanic in the fight

[02:55:09] So that's not just the first ones like that one

[02:55:12] I have no idea, but I might have been what made him laugh earlier. He was crying laughing at one of the falls

[02:55:23] They you drop a little orb of your associate color on the floor when you get hit with any of the mechanics in the fight

[02:55:29] And somebody of the opposite color has to go pick it up for you. Otherwise it will explode and you will die

[02:55:34] So that's you see it when these green things land on everybody bump see all the blue orbs on the floor

[02:55:39] So now red gang has got to come and pick those up and blue gang has to go and get the red ones

[02:55:43] To soak them now you can only soak to

[02:55:45] Yeah, because every time you soak it you'll get a dot and if it's not soaked that dot will go out across the entire raid

[02:55:52] Depending on the healing check of this fight

[02:55:53] They may be able to afford one orb going off every so often maybe

[02:55:58] Depending on how tight the healings require healing requirement in this fight

[02:56:01] So they do miss what it goes across the entire raid rather than just going on that one person

[02:56:05] but when you get to three it is

[02:56:09] Abnormally abnormal amount of damage so they can only really take two. Yeah three is death. Yeah, you don't want that three is death

[02:56:17] So there'll be they've made little plans to make this work a lot of them

[02:56:20] They've got little partners very much like toddlers are going to walk to the park with teacher where you've got to hold the hand

[02:56:26] that's what they're doing in order to counter out this is the charge as

[02:56:30] Chungus has been wept yet again you do get a damage bonus on the boss you can

[02:56:35] see that count down there you got a little damage bonus to burst into the

[02:56:38] boss when you counter their main mechanic so Chungus is obviously goes

[02:56:41] charge into the wall and spider lady does the stinging swarm which needs to

[02:56:45] be dispelled onto her with it jumps to the closest player all the boss so

[02:56:50] they need to position in a way that that be dispelled you've done that in

[02:56:53] Now check this out. So what they do here is they make these little clubs red club blue club

[02:56:58] And split up and the range. Can we go to maybe hopeful? There you go. See these have a little partner

[02:57:04] Well, I mean that was a bad time. Wasn't it? That's really not my fault

[02:57:09] I like the whole team's camera. I think they're pinging the orb, right?

[02:57:13] Yeah, they pinged the orb. Something needs to come so good. Definitely not the uh, oh you died

[02:57:17] Red gang go red gang

[02:57:19] Red gang

[02:57:21] Get it

[02:57:22] And you can see how everybody is now taking so much damage because the orbs that are not soaked and explode onto the raid instead

[02:57:30] Yeah, it's gonna be a game over because when they pop you get a stack from the entire raid just falls onto you

[02:57:35] And it just keeps going up and up and up and you're more and more vulnerable is no good. My friends is no good

[02:57:41] But we'll get a clean one there. They have had them already

[02:57:44] But you can see that in submission there whether what we could have seen there

[02:57:47] If the first partner didn't literally get blasted into a wall, the second we cut to it is that

[02:57:53] your partner, they've got opposite colors next to each other so they're in the web gaps, they drop

[02:57:58] theirs because the pulse from the boss itself, not the webs, it's just the pulsing damage

[02:58:02] actually causes the ops to drop and they can spin around each other and collect them as they're

[02:58:06] circling around the room. So they have this nice little dance around, oh, what was it,

[02:58:41] the Queen Uncerak Venom Bomb when you have a room standing in it and you have the one

[02:58:46] person pop it and it will launch everyone into the air. It's a similar mechanic but instead

[02:58:50] of knocking everyone in the air anyone within just gets kind of tethered together with

[02:58:55] the web so they have to be really careful that they're popping the middle still being

[02:58:59] in it and not killing their partner as well.

[02:59:01] Yep. You got some prettiness to show us that Jesse.

[02:59:04] Oh sure yeah we can show the little rotation the carousel stride I guess we can call

[02:59:09] it for now.

[02:59:10] Sure.

[02:59:11] have it up here. Okay so this is the Warcraft Vlogs replay feature which is

[02:59:14] really great for seeing what's going on from a bird's-eye view and I've come

[02:59:17] right before the venomous rain cast goes off which is what causes everyone to

[02:59:21] spawn an orb. You have here on the right one group of colored folks and on the

[02:59:26] other side you have the blue color, the blue instead of the red and then

[02:59:29] you see the venomous rain go off they spread out to get the venomous

[02:59:31] rain and then they start swirling around the boss to soak each other's

[02:59:36] It's like a merry-go-round.

[02:59:40] It's mesmerizing to watch the merry-go-round go around.

[02:59:42] Yeah, and then have we got the intermission?

[02:59:45] It seems like we haven't got a clean intermission yet.

[02:59:47] We haven't had a very clean one.

[02:59:48] Let's have a clean one, because if we should have, the internal circle spinning, but on

[02:59:52] the outside we should have them spinning in like orbiting.

[02:59:55] Yes.

[02:59:56] Yeah, that's what we should have for a little like a couple of moons.

[02:59:59] And it's similar to how they do it even in this first phase, where you have some

[03:00:02] ranged as you see not playing the merry-go-round out far and just trading with each other similar

[03:00:07] to how they're going to do in the intermission and then everyone else comes in to do this merry-go-round.

[03:00:17] It is fun! I can see that fixated bob chasing down whoever that was. I was just like trying to do the

[03:00:23] merry-go-round while spinning around in a big scarab trying to nubble at your butt.

[03:00:27] I

[03:00:30] Ideally not that's correct. We don't want that over the course of this race though. You guys have been incredible

[03:00:36] I see me past the fifteen thousand dollar mark J

[03:00:40] Which I believe is RC rumble

[03:00:42] Yeah, we're gonna have the the little RC car

[03:00:46] My have a little race the next one I'm worried about because we have no idea who's in this

[03:00:50] But of course we are raising money up because they've had for games for love

[03:00:53] which is a really serious cause.

[03:00:56] It's for a lot of children,

[03:00:57] they were trapped in hospitals.

[03:00:58] So, you know, horrible diseases like cancer,

[03:01:01] you just can't get out,

[03:01:01] you can't go to school,

[03:01:02] you can't play with your friends,

[03:01:03] can't do any of that stuff

[03:01:04] for writing distraction therapy,

[03:01:05] through gaming,

[03:01:06] can you imagine your childhood

[03:01:07] if you literally couldn't play any games,

[03:01:08] you were sat in the hospital bed?

[03:01:10] That's what we're doing it for.

[03:01:11] And not only that,

[03:01:12] when they came back out of hospital,

[03:01:14] when they hopefully beat that disease,

[03:01:16] helping them get back into education,

[03:01:18] to catch up with the lives

[03:01:19] that they've essentially just left behind

[03:01:21] by being in hospital.

[03:01:22] That's what it's all about. That's what we're raising money for and of course doing some fun things along the way in order to aid that

[03:01:27] So you want to be sure it's a was you can do

[03:01:31] The rats have a message from Mike

[03:01:34] Now we've done that enough you can never enough we are Legion

[03:01:38] You are you joining? No, I'm Tim K also. Oh, that makes a lot of sense actually

[03:01:45] Yeah, but while we're doing that, you know, there is another element. So low wave who produced

[03:01:49] They are making a special song. They've been watching. They've been totally enthused. They have no idea what was going on with the race. Now they've witnessed it. Yes, they have. So they've been making the baked bean sample track. It's going to be a track based on it. And they have been listening to you guys. You guys have been replying to tweets. You guys have been doing all sorts of stuff with your best bean moments.

[03:02:09] track based on it. And they have been listening to you guys. You guys have been replying to

[03:02:15] tweets. You guys have been doing all sorts of stuff with your best bean moments. Of course,

[03:02:19] I'm the one who's saying this. Yeah, you take it, Jay.

[03:02:22] Yeah, so if you have any clips of favorite moments where either somebody, I think Medica's

[03:02:30] done some freestyle raps, any beans moments, make sure you send those clips to Echoes

[03:02:36] oh yeah so oh okay we have a sample we have some full of them and we have to

[03:02:45] vote yes I'm here right yes okay so can chat hello hello so let me I can pop

[03:02:51] these up really quick we've got the samples ready you guys will be able to

[03:02:55] hear them too so let me just enable this really quick there you go big

[03:02:58] beans better and these are the samples that are currently being chosen to be

[03:03:05] in the tracks we'll see if you guys can hear this. Oh yeah look at that! Beans. That's

[03:03:15] how the song's gonna end. Okay let me play it from the beginning. I didn't hear any beans.

[03:03:19] Yeah yeah give me a sec let me just rewind it hold on a sec. Bit loud a baby bitch as

[03:03:24] well. How about some beans? Oh bean time. Oh yes! Beans on toast! What kids? Alright

[03:03:37] is that what? That sounds disgusting. There we go. Oh yeah look at that. Bates. Okay so

[03:03:48] keep in mind these are going to be used in a song. They sound a little bit isolated but

[03:03:51] we have two versions of the track that have these samples already in them. Oh the track

[03:03:55] is made. So we have two versions of it. Okay. So let me pull that up really quick.

[03:03:59] Hold on a sec. This is going to be such mean. It's going to be hilarious. It's

[03:04:04] the best. Let me move this up here like that, there you go.

[03:04:08] It's very loud. Alright, so here we go with the first version. Alright, so that's the

[03:04:46] first version. What do you guys think? What's the other one?

[03:04:48] I could already feel a lot of beansy notes. I love the drop.

[03:04:52] It's gonna be good. The second one is similar but also very different, so you'll see in

[03:04:56] a second when you pull it up. Let me do this, there you go. Alright, so this

[03:05:02] This is the second version.

[03:05:03] This is my favorite too.

[03:05:34] Alright, so what we're going to do is we're going to draw a poll and see what Chad thinks.

[03:05:39] And you guys will just tell me what your vote is, and then we can submit that to them and

[03:05:42] they'll work it up.

[03:05:43] Obviously the samples are going to come more to the forefront, but yeah, that's what we

[03:05:46] got so far.

[03:05:47] I love it.

[03:05:48] Okay, I vote number two.

[03:05:49] Number two.

[03:05:50] Okay.

[03:05:51] I vote to change the color of the audiogram, which appears to be bean color.

[03:05:54] Yes.

[03:05:55] That might do it.

[03:05:56] That is entirely on me.

[03:05:57] That's fantastic.

[03:05:58] That's Mitch's influence over the bean power.

[03:06:00] Where's your vote?

[03:06:01] gonna vote one to be contradictory because you chaos Jesse where do you land

[03:06:09] two words clearly superior there thank you check the logs yep yep it certainly

[03:06:18] does thank you to everybody who helped with that submitting those samples via

[03:06:22] Twitter to be put in there that's obviously nowhere near the finish

[03:06:25] track just our examples to get out to you guys as a direction to go wonderful

[03:06:29] working with low waves they take all the feedback and then refine and go its way

[03:06:33] one vote to beans one oh beans two rises dominance oh my goodness what's it like to

[03:06:40] be wrong all the time I imagine it's normal for a mage

[03:06:45] to be fair we had a lot of mages claiming they were immune to mechanics on

[03:06:51] Nexus Princess while they were continuously being mulled into the floor

[03:06:54] that's because they weren't being healed that's what it was yeah yeah yeah yeah

[03:06:59] I mean the echo heal is notoriously slack on nexus princess wouldn't you agree Jesse? Oh, yeah easy fight just one heal

[03:07:06] How is that overall DPS on that fight? I'm kind of curious because we had targets yesterday of like 19 million 19.2

[03:07:12] Which they exactly almost hit it was 19.18. So almost exactly on target. Yeah, that is cool math team. Yeah

[03:07:20] Yeah, it was interesting last night while listening to scribe like I said I was watching the last hour

[03:07:24] They obviously didn't kill it last night to kill it this morning

[03:07:26] But Xero was a full doubter. It was full doubt.

[03:07:31] It was like, we're not even got the DPS with this calm blah blah blah.

[03:07:34] And then we just did the math. We're killing. This is it. It's done.

[03:07:37] Like, Xero, I think Xero threw some numbers out there.

[03:07:40] He's like, no, no, no. We've figured it out. We've got this.

[03:07:43] Now we've got to figure it out.

[03:07:44] Our math said something like 19.2. They did on the poll.

[03:07:47] 19.188. So, exactly on that tiny little scoshop.

[03:07:52] It was very, very good.

[03:07:53] And it was a very very good pull as well where as expected you have mirrors die the first three times in a row

[03:07:59] Mm-hmm no one dying until after his third sacrifice in phase three, so it was a case again that one pull right

[03:08:04] They just need that one pull it took him was it 260 pulls to get it. Yeah, something like that

[03:08:10] I think liquid was

[03:08:13] 300 or just

[03:08:16] And you're the reason I'm you know talking about the various teams is because how crazy is that for boss six?

[03:08:21] I think we might be looking a little bold prediction here the most pooled raid

[03:08:28] So fucker, I think has the championship it's a lot. Yeah, I think

[03:08:33] Holondros alone was three

[03:08:36] Five six or three five four three five four lots of dreads 70 something

[03:08:40] I think right on one ten and when was an end boss on his own

[03:08:44] Yeah, true a couple of what the jailer was I just owned out by them

[03:08:48] by far the hardest here we've ever had but I think this might be coming in at

[03:08:53] number two right after that it doesn't look like we have a pole so I did find a

[03:08:56] nice long pole where we could see the intermission rotating beautiful I've got

[03:09:01] that pulled pretty music for this bitch now so this is as they're heading into

[03:09:07] the intermission we'll start just in a little bit you can see them grouping up

[03:09:10] in their sides and then the ranged pairs heading out to the sides to

[03:09:13] be the spokes look I'm gonna pause here look how perfect those stacks are

[03:09:17] Yeah, and each of these sides. I want to see is the all but thing that's going on around the back here. We see planets start moving

[03:09:31] It's hard which is why we already have that's occurring. Yeah, we haven't had to clean yet

[03:09:35] This is gonna look so much better when it's cleaner. This is gonna look you and we go swinging

[03:09:39] interesting they have the healers so far out like we've got Ryzen behind the moon

[03:09:47] came what do you thoughts on that just usually one those healers more in the

[03:09:50] mid so they can reach more people than necessary that's true they have the

[03:09:56] evoker healers in the mid along with the melee but they're looking for a

[03:10:00] certain number ranged out there to be partners and it looks like Ryzen drew

[03:10:03] the short so much like he did on princess giving up his potion in order

[03:10:07] above everyone else with one of those new potions that you can throw at your friends giving

[03:10:11] 600 primary stat to five people he and mirrors were doing that utility roll yesterday so

[03:10:15] mirror uh rice and stepping up to be the odd healer at when necessary didn't get a mana potion

[03:10:20] yeah interesting because that was a new pot that came in with the wall within right yeah you can

[03:10:25] you throw your potion instead of consuming it yourself give five people an additional 600 primary

[03:10:30] stat both mirrors and rice and doing that on the pole to two separate groups of DPS that

[03:10:34] They were also positioned in order to get the even mites from their respective augmentation evokers

[03:10:37] And then they tried to do a little bit of micro moving at the 5 minute and 20 second mark to again land those potions exactly on DPS

[03:10:44] Missing the healers and tanks

[03:10:45] It was actually a nice bit of tech occurring under the hood in the middle of an extraordinarily mechanical

[03:10:50] Mechanically defend demanding fights. So it was cool to see

[03:10:53] It's almost like an iceberg isn't it?

[03:10:54] It's very chaotic you kind of appreciate how difficult the fight is but there was so much going on behind the scenes

[03:10:59] I'm sure the healers really appreciate getting more work to do on that fight as well because they were kind of like

[03:11:04] lazy. Yeah. There wasn't much happening for them there.

[03:11:08] Yeah. Every mistake's a one shot. I'm glad they got it this morning though because with

[03:11:14] Echo it's classically they either come in and slam or we're here till afternoon while

[03:11:18] they do like 150 scuffed pulls until we finally get back in the mix but they managed to hold

[03:11:22] it together for the first hour inspired by the, I don't even know what we had for breakfast

[03:11:27] this morning. It was very nice. It was butter beans with like a curry sauce and bacon

[03:11:32] on toast. Oh, nice. It was it was really nice. I couldn't describe it for you. I would say it was

[03:11:37] butter chicken, but instead of chicken, it was butter beans. Oh, so I haven't beans today.

[03:11:42] They saw you coming. Yeah, he saw, he saw us coming. She knew what we were getting is the guys

[03:11:47] are back into a pool. Let's hope we can get this nice and clean. We've already seen them go clean

[03:11:50] since submission. Here's that wonderful symmetry as they run around. And you can see is that

[03:11:53] cannex who's still playing this sort of like weird I'm melee, not really. I'm a chicken

[03:11:58] kind of gaming. He's here.

[03:12:02] He's wrecking these ads.

[03:12:03] That's his primary function here.

[03:12:05] As you'll see, he's down the bottom of the damage meter right now,

[03:12:07] but hold on to your hats because he's definitely going to pop off in a second.

[03:12:11] There he goes. Popping that celestial alignment.

[03:12:13] And now he's going to town.

[03:12:15] Canyx rises.

[03:12:16] They convoke doing big work onto the boss during this weakened phase,

[03:12:20] that vulnerability phase after he gets rooted and right to the third position.

[03:12:25] The merry-go-round in action now as they will be rotating around the boss trying to soak the opposite colors orbs that they dropped

[03:12:32] So they individually get a dot rather than the entire raid avoiding that three stacks. That is lethal

[03:12:40] Super lethal like if you compare this to something with heavy movement like star auger or unats

[03:12:45] Actually, this is more of an unat vibes or anything else is like who's moving first where are you going and of course

[03:12:51] who not one of these kind of ridiculously hard but yet forgotten bosses because it was in such a

[03:12:55] bizarre tier in the middle that nobody really wanted to do because it had kind of interesting gear

[03:13:00] kind of but nobody wanted it odd sort of place for such a ridiculously difficult boss but the similar

[03:13:07] movement required where we had the three different colors there that you weren't allowed to touch

[03:13:10] any other raid member with but that was considerably easier than this because you

[03:13:14] actually cleared that debuff you only had a window of about 10 or 15 seconds where you were

[03:13:18] marked with your color that you weren't allowed to touch any of the raid member with and then you

[03:13:23] were fine in between it. This time though the entire fight and of course if you guys have done

[03:13:27] some normal heroic it gets really vicious later on. Mira's going down. I'd like to look at the tank

[03:13:32] damage if possible because that's regularly the tanks again crushed into the floor. Now we're

[03:13:37] going to see the synchronized dancing. Yeah so they have to make sure that they are dodging

[03:13:42] the webs that are going out across the arena kind of exploding in the area that they appear

[03:13:47] So holding and then also soaking the opposite colors orbs as well. Yeah, it seems to be a lot.

[03:13:53] This animation is so hard. Yeah. It's pulsing damage across the rays.

[03:13:58] Non-stop. Yeah, and then you also dodging those slices soaking the orbs as well,

[03:14:02] the mythic mechanic, as you can unfortunately see some of them going off as they're not soaked.

[03:14:08] Yeah, another fight very similar to what we've seen so far that snowballs. So if you're

[03:14:11] talking about House of Cards with a lot of these fights, you miss one egg on Brew Keeper.

[03:14:15] You can get you kind of screwed even though you can kind of save it

[03:14:18] But it just falls behind and the player gets clicked. We have the same with the last boss as well

[03:14:23] It's not like it's gonna do less blazes to you

[03:14:25] It's actually just gonna stack them on your face and chew you in that was the cruelest part the fact that all of

[03:14:30] Failing making any mistake failing any part of the fight was a one-shot

[03:14:34] And then you wouldn't get any less blaze lines either in the intermission because players would get multiple as we saw

[03:14:40] When there was maybe one player alive at the very end

[03:14:42] they'd almost get this kind of star pattern with all of the shadowy blazers going out from them,

[03:14:47] which looked very funny. It was beautiful. Yeah, it was very pretty. Many things in this raid

[03:14:52] look pretty as they're destroying your soul, which is what it's all about, but we're not

[03:14:57] surprised by the difficulty of this fight whatsoever. This is the one they actually

[03:15:00] expected coming in was going to be the big wall, like as soon as this was seen on the PTR,

[03:15:05] obviously we had a little look see it next to Princess, which looks hard, not as hard as

[03:15:09] it turned out to be but this one is the one where they're like oh god oh yes i feel like

[03:15:14] everybody who tested this boss on mythic has said that this is one of the hardest bosses if not the

[03:15:19] hardest boss that they've ever tested uh on the ptr i'm really hoping that there's just uh like it's

[03:15:27] looks harder than it's going to be once they enact a working strategy because there is a

[03:15:33] little forgiveness here right so each player when they get hit with something is spawning

[03:15:36] one orb people can soak too right that's half your raid who's taking it there's

[03:15:41] there's there's some forgiveness little bits but I actually suspect that's

[03:15:45] actually misdirection for later in the fight because it's going to be just so

[03:15:49] many imagine if it was as mean as the tindral mushrooms where you don't

[03:15:55] soak one and you have to soak every single one oh my goodness oh they've

[03:15:58] stupid bloody seeds man yeah oh that was rough watching all right yeah I think

[03:16:04] we all remember that guys that was rough watching when it was just one left and it

[03:16:08] was there five seconds to soak every single one of these little circles that

[03:16:11] they're spinning in so they'll have the the body system going on at range here

[03:16:15] to make sure they're moving around in circle to soak each other's orbs and then

[03:16:20] they need to stretch the tethered webs across the charge without breaking it

[03:16:25] without snap it shuffle shuffle shuffle shuffle yeah these guys have got this

[03:16:28] kind of in hands now absolutely it's kind of lovely that works out you see

[03:16:31] Hopefully Ryzen and Wolf Disco all end up in that nice, neat row, and this is why it's so important that they get the players in who are going to be in for a while, especially these ranged players that are carrying a lot of the work.

[03:16:42] The melee really just goes around left. That's your job. Go left.

[03:16:46] My left or your left?

[03:16:48] The boss is left.

[03:16:50] Yeah?

[03:16:51] The boss is left?

[03:16:52] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we just go cardinal.

[03:16:54] Widdishans or leeward?

[03:16:55] West.

[03:16:56] We're going west.

[03:16:57] West? Relative west?

[03:16:58] No, relative from north.

[03:17:00] But the room is a circle!

[03:17:02] Which corner?

[03:17:03] We'll use Ancerek as True North.

[03:17:05] That's the plan. Ancerek is True North.

[03:17:07] And we're going Cardinals from this position.

[03:17:09] Easy.

[03:17:11] Yeah, the Rages are going to carry all this stuff.

[03:17:13] You don't really want to be swapping them out if you can do to learn, you know,

[03:17:16] what your partner is doing all the time.

[03:17:18] The habits they have.

[03:17:19] They've played together for a long time now.

[03:17:21] But you want to know, okay, he likes to go here during this bit and why,

[03:17:24] and he's going to do this and not do some crazy blink.

[03:17:27] I played with this Mage once.

[03:17:29] I've never met such a bigger game terrorist in my life than this guy, we'd be doing sludge

[03:17:43] fist and stuff and he would just randomly blink while we had chains and just kill both

[03:17:47] of us.

[03:17:48] Oh no!

[03:17:49] A blinking mage on sludge fist!

[03:17:50] Oh no no no.

[03:17:51] Absolutely atrocious player, it made me sad and Alex had to kick him ultimately for

[03:17:56] his...

[03:17:57] Aww.

[03:17:58] but it wasn't sad actually, it was a jerk.

[03:18:00] Yeah, it was fine.

[03:18:01] I'm just trying to be nice, but no, what a jerk.

[03:18:04] Get him out.

[03:18:06] We have a red orb that is leaning.

[03:18:08] There he goes.

[03:18:08] It got picked up there.

[03:18:09] We have Jack up, go down, but he has ank.

[03:18:11] We might actually be able to see a relatively clean

[03:18:13] intermission here.

[03:18:14] There's still a long way to go as the tanks are dead.

[03:18:16] Again, Jesse.

[03:18:18] Yep.

[03:18:18] Mmm.

[03:18:20] Yeah, this is a whole lot of damage right now.

[03:18:21] Have they tried to soak a huge amount of orbs or something?

[03:18:24] They've tried a couple of times.

[03:18:25] So go fourth orb and get one shot.

[03:18:27] the debuff actually going on you when you soak third orb, it's called touch of death and

[03:18:31] it works exactly how it sounds. You can come deceased inevitably. The other thing going

[03:18:35] on there is they are juggling the boss, which does a piercing strike, doubling the damage

[03:18:38] you take from the subsequent piercing strike, basically a tank buster. And if they don't

[03:18:43] swap that, that's a dead tank.

[03:18:45] I don't think it's necessary for the tanks to over-soul carb, so I can make sense

[03:18:48] in a lot of encounters, but here?

[03:18:50] I guess these early pools are where they test stuff like that out, right? This is

[03:18:56] where they're very much feeding out how much they can or can't get away with, how many

[03:19:00] orbs can the tanks take to alleviate that job from the DPS for example.

[03:19:04] So yeah, we'll probably get a lot of this kind of testing in these early progress polls.

[03:19:09] Yeah, this is a really weird fight for the tanks with whoever's not tanking the spider

[03:19:16] ends up being one of the lower damage taken in the entire encounter.

[03:19:19] Normally you see both tanks as the highest damage taken by a large margin.

[03:19:21] That's not the case this time because a new brush really doesn't do anything except

[03:19:24] that one tank buster every now and then that doubles the damage from the next one and if

[03:19:28] you don't taunt you die. Outside of that doing very little damage the primary damage of the

[03:19:32] tank damage is poison bolt being spanned by the spider.

[03:19:35] The spellable still is.

[03:19:36] The spellable. So we are rotating poison cleansing totems for the shamans to try to

[03:19:39] get rid of that stacking of dodge but even the initial application does more tank damage

[03:19:43] than anything else currently occurring unless they either over soak or mess up that tank

[03:19:48] buster swap on the beetle.

[03:19:49] Yeah it'd be these little quirks of the fight that aren't really registered until

[03:19:53] you play it like you can read the dungeon or you want and you can build a strategy around

[03:19:56] it but then suddenly it's the weirdest little things like oh this is actually a really big

[03:19:59] problem yeah we were saying about how blizzards have kind of an intended way or have anti cheese

[03:20:05] and I wonder where they think okay we don't want the tanks to be soaking those nose of

[03:20:09] orb so we're going to have this bolt going out from the spider priestess um it might

[03:20:16] be a frack remember the orb soaking where we had Andy shoot down the line and he's

[03:20:20] It was like I'm gonna sort like seven of these off. I wonder if it means work on the orbs on this fire actually

[03:20:26] No, they don't as far as I remember

[03:20:29] We'll see if that's happening

[03:20:31] No, this really auntie cheese. Yeah, they're super auntie cheese at the moment. They are paying close attention to

[03:20:38] What would what would I do? It's almost like what would I do in the scenario?

[03:20:41] Well, we try and get immune classes to so come all up and to just get rid of them and nullify the mechanic and things like that and get

[03:20:47] rid of it. We'll find out later exactly what is the most I think that you can't

[03:20:53] immune any of it right. Immune isn't really doing anything in this fight. You can't immune the orb soaks you get

[03:20:56] touched to death through it. Interestingly after their break they've had

[03:21:01] extremely high consistency at getting into that intermission where they

[03:21:04] immediately become deceased but they've had over half of their pulls post break

[03:21:08] going into the intermission so good consistency and progress at getting to

[03:21:11] that point where they need to work something out because the damage becomes

[03:21:13] so swiftly overwhelming especially when some Corb is missed. Other things happening in there is the

[03:21:18] boss is constantly barraging them with void damage that stacks up the longer you haven't yet broken

[03:21:22] through her shield and it's just an overwhelming amount of damage. I'm going to set something up

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[03:23:01] Fascination not getting in time if you don't get your color you did you have to pick a side

[03:23:06] He did as well, even if they've read them if they didn't get a color

[03:23:10] Yeah, you would just die you just die again should get a permanent or the last even through death

[03:23:14] Yeah, I think there was some confusion earlier with how this can't res mechanic works

[03:23:18] You can't be res if you do not have a color

[03:23:20] So if you start the fight in the wrong place and don't get close to either Chungus or spider lady

[03:23:25] Then you will just even if they come back as you just immediately die again because you don't have a color

[03:23:29] You are not relevant to the fight. Goodbye. But you can be res later on if you have a color. You still have that color

[03:23:35] You know, it's a permanent sort of buff debuff or what you want to call it a permanent affix to your character

[03:23:39] While the combat is going on. So you can be res later on you just can't be raised if you just if you were indifferent

[03:23:48] Yes, I live in a world of indifference. So while they get back up just have a quick wipe

[03:23:52] What if he gets the shows over there, buddy? Yep

[03:23:54] So I'm taking a look at their best work in the intermission over here in Warcraft Logs

[03:23:59] and I've got that pulled up if we want.

[03:24:00] This is just the intermission and it's showing what's going on with the vast sort of majority

[03:24:04] of the damage, being this Entropic Barrage constantly pulsing on the raid.

[03:24:07] Unfortunately, people are dying between each pulse or you'll be able to see that that

[03:24:10] damage actually goes up because every time that hits the raid they take this debuff

[03:24:13] stacking up and up and up, increasing the damage they take from the subsequent

[03:24:17] Entropic Barrages.

[03:24:18] So that's doing a lot of damage.

[03:24:20] You also see here touch of death and betrayal.

[03:24:22] are individual errors either soaking too many orbs or colliding with someone of the opposite

[03:24:26] color so lots of individual errors occurring while you're doing that while dodging the

[03:24:29] slices emphasizing the difficulty of this phase and other than those individual errors the

[03:24:34] current struggle is of course the healing where we have this strange situation where

[03:24:38] we aren't we aren't really stacked up we're moving a lot the healers hps is extraordinarily

[03:24:42] limited through constant movement inconsistent groups not being stacked up so struggling

[03:24:48] to find the cooldowns necessary to get through that while also dealing with mechanics

[03:24:51] of soaking all the orbs, not touching the opposite color, rotating around the pizza slices. It

[03:24:56] is a very complex. Yeah, because they want to leave the orbs in a way that they don't overlap with

[03:25:02] the area of the room that's currently going to explode as well, right? You can't leave the orb.

[03:25:06] Do you have to constantly think about your positioning and your partner as they get

[03:25:10] very close during their little dance? It's almost like a line dance. Yeah.

[03:25:15] Yeah, partner looking arms running around in circles, skipping.

[03:25:20] Well, I'd be caught now, Joe.

[03:25:23] I think based on what you just said, Justin, you might even have a little bit more healer

[03:25:29] flexibility here.

[03:25:31] Maybe is actually going to be allowed this time, right?

[03:25:34] It's not a complete waste of time.

[03:25:35] I think that's true, right?

[03:25:36] You're not able to really demonstrate the HPS throughput power of the preservation

[03:25:40] of okras because you weren't stacked and standing still and able to get all of your

[03:25:42] cast off and completely use the preservation kit, so it's actually lagging behind on this

[03:25:46] fight compared to every other fight of the tier.

[03:25:49] Oli Paladin is starting to shine here with, of course, D.Vore and Aura Mastery providing

[03:25:53] enormous value and the Trioch healing he's able to provide.

[03:25:55] He's also doing something interesting, putting Beacons of Light on the mages, because the

[03:25:59] tanks aren't taking that much damage on this fight unless they mess up a tank buster.

[03:26:03] So putting Beacons of Light on people who are furthest away, taking less healing

[03:26:06] from his Mastery, getting value that way, keeping your Squishies raid members

[03:26:09] because the people who are most in danger are those external satellites rotating

[03:26:14] around during the intermission instead of the big groups in the middle taking

[03:26:16] the cleave-heeling. Yeah they could stand all nice group together they can get

[03:26:20] what's it called a gulfed on. It gulfed me daddy. It gulfed me chungus. Here he comes to a gulf.

[03:26:27] Behold the chungus of all his glory. Oh chungus tonight. I will get my revenge. Gadgets.

[03:26:38] The intermission, Jesse, is over when the shield breaks or is it over on a timer?

[03:26:44] The shield breaks, I mean.

[03:26:45] Okay, so...

[03:26:46] And then you'll stop doing that in Tropic Barrage.

[03:26:47] There are so many points in the fight already that are kind of significant damage points,

[03:26:52] right?

[03:26:53] You've got the vulnerable phases where you stop in the charge and you've also got

[03:26:57] to go out of the intermission as fast as possible, so it'd be interesting to see

[03:27:00] how they distribute the damage, where they're assigning cooldowns and if that's

[03:27:03] going to change.

[03:27:04] What damage profiles are going to be good?

[03:27:07] it's a lot of strange timings. Yeah a little weird stuff. I was actually just giggling that

[03:27:11] because we were saying how is nice memes doing this melee? I'm not allowed to jump around like a

[03:27:15] maniac thing. I can still do it. It's fine. That's why I do what I do. I can still get it done. It's

[03:27:21] totally okay. I can find a gap. I can charge. I can do whatever I want to do. Obviously,

[03:27:25] Cat's Oak now. But now the orbs are going off and those stacks are rising on the characters.

[03:27:32] So they are going to be washing this one away, but they think of a shield down again

[03:27:37] But we want to be getting it clean. This is once again one of those fights where

[03:27:41] Couple of deaths is just gonna make this in really worse Jay

[03:27:46] So punishing after an already insanely punishing fight

[03:27:51] Oh, there's no there's no let up answer. It's like a four-pointer guarantee. Do you think?

[03:27:56] Ansarak is kind of like yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry cuz like all right. You made it you can win now

[03:28:00] Yeah, yeah, okay

[03:28:03] Yeah, this is you guys got here fine

[03:28:07] Surely next is princess shows up in assassinates and so for you

[03:28:11] Like that would be really cool

[03:28:14] The only phases you don't do anything you watch an rpc

[03:28:19] It's a really new anime that they've released as they're continuing on a little bit because they probably want to see stinging swarm

[03:28:25] And whether their strats of works out they thought they've done it

[03:28:27] Yeah, I see they've dispelled it onto the boss so you can see spider lady is having a wander round clueless surely

[03:28:34] Yep, they did it. Yeah, they keep in the fight going. I was

[03:28:38] Strangler whatever was talking about. We do have a new best pull here

[03:28:42] Successfully got the dispels off and onto the boss take making sure that they take a little bit more damage

[03:28:47] See these are the better players everybody else killed themselves, right every so I was most interested about this the drag

[03:28:54] So it seems like that only grip

[03:28:57] Half?

[03:28:58] I think Team Red is dead.

[03:28:59] Oh, Team Red's dead.

[03:29:01] And unless Team Red, they're chilling over there, so they didn't appear to get dragged at the same time.

[03:29:05] Which is very nice, because on Normal and Heroic, everybody gets dragged in by that mechanic.

[03:29:10] And I was thinking, how is that gonna work with that all?

[03:29:12] So, thought at the back, please.

[03:29:14] Oh, so, please.

[03:29:15] Nice memes, that one there. You can see the red thing.

[03:29:17] No, no, no, I'm DPSing, there's loads of ads on screen. I must damage.

[03:29:20] I don't think that's an orb, I think that's a player.

[03:29:22] Oh, isn't that distracting?

[03:29:24] Yeah, it's the exact same animation whether you have a orb on the ground or an orb over your head

[03:29:28] Oh, you can see the corpse underneath that one. Oh, that's a boy. Oh, yeah, they kind of persist. I see that is annoying

[03:29:35] But is it okay? Hear me out. Is it a good indication of? No, I've lost it

[03:29:41] I was gonna say you can tell who you're raising based on what color they are rather than trying to remember who was

[03:29:46] What color do you just see okay? We need another blue person up here

[03:29:51] So we're just going to raise the blue orb, but that wouldn't work because you need to be paired the whole way through right also

[03:29:56] Do you blow up if you run over someone's on the floor? Are they landmines?

[03:30:00] Do they become landmines?

[03:30:03] That's something I need to see happen

[03:30:05] Yeah, if you've got somebody dead on the opposite color on the floor and you run over them

[03:30:08] Do you pop?

[03:30:10] Because that was nice means it listened to you and got and tried to soak him and you just killed it

[03:30:14] That was by far our best pull since the 10-man shenanigans getting all the way out of second

[03:30:23] intermission.

[03:30:24] So I'll be taking a look.

[03:30:25] Yeah, they're doing okay.

[03:30:27] The comp has some interesting tweets to it.

[03:30:29] I don't know if you guys talked about it before I got here, but we have Revis playing

[03:30:33] Arms instead of Fury and we have one Og One Dev evoker.

[03:30:37] Dev has been surprisingly reappearing more and more and more.

[03:30:41] have been having a very, very

[03:30:43] good to you. Absolutely. Yeah,

[03:30:45] all three of their specs really

[03:30:47] shining the all vocal being very

[03:30:49] important as it's the support

[03:30:51] class with buff in the the raid

[03:30:53] and also prez performing

[03:30:55] incredibly well throughout the

[03:30:57] raid tear pumping out so much

[03:30:59] healing and yeah and devastation

[03:31:01] I see we've had some there's

[03:31:03] been some cash coming in J.

[03:31:05] Oh, I can see it. I can see

[03:31:07] it. I witness it before my

[03:31:09] It's going to be tell you what I can read them out for you without even looking ready

[03:31:14] Dear Michael Jordan, I mean both of you on the couch is such a wondrous experience

[03:31:18] I no longer have to stand and see that face of medic

[03:31:23] What a joy I bet that's what it says

[03:31:26] We had a $10 donation from Sanandre with no message. Thank you very much even even nicer

[03:31:32] Just just helping out the kids just helping out those kids

[03:31:35] But we also had a $1 donation from the rat who says

[03:31:42] And I preach it's me the rat

[03:31:45] Do I have to read every single seven?

[03:31:49] No, I'm going to interrupt you so they can't use it as a soundbite because the last thing we want to do is have that as a soundbite

[03:31:54] Thank you. I

[03:31:57] Know how much you like fees

[03:31:59] So I've left you a little surprise

[03:32:01] on your pillow.

[03:32:03] It's like me.

[03:32:06] Excited.

[03:32:07] What does that mean?

[03:32:10] Excited for our sauna rendezvous.

[03:32:13] It's Mr. Speedo.

[03:32:16] And our beans on toast date.

[03:32:18] Why does that sound so good?

[03:32:21] Stop enjoying yourself.

[03:32:22] I'll be waiting.

[03:32:23] Yours, the rat.

[03:32:25] 7777.

[03:32:26] No, no, no, no.

[03:32:27] We're not having that sound.

[03:32:29] Thank you.

[03:32:30] Appreciate you.

[03:32:31] You got a lot of credit for $1 there, right?

[03:32:36] You helping a kid out?

[03:32:38] Yes, $1 helps one child.

[03:32:40] Think of those parents.

[03:32:42] We have a $10 donation from NotMedic.

[03:32:45] Dear Mike and Jordan, you are both wonderful on the couch.

[03:32:49] It is a joy to not have to watch that face of Medic, sincerely not crying in a corner.

[03:32:57] It's not me. I never said that. Hey, no way. A Jardyn's agreed. If we get to 16K here,

[03:33:08] she will eat the hot chip challenge. What? I've already come.

[03:33:11] Good job, Jardyn. Yeah. Yeah. She said she actually felt like it was embarrassing last

[03:33:15] time and that she could defeat it easily this time. We had this wonderful conversation

[03:33:20] before we came on stream. At 16,000, we also have really hot pickles that Mike

[03:33:25] will be really pleased to have. Oh thank you. Get your donations in. Hard pass and then

[03:33:30] I don't, what are you guys storing below here? We're storing for the winter. We're here for

[03:33:34] a while. After 70K, you'll have ice cream that doesn't melt. What is this? No, no, thank

[03:33:41] you. I'm not eating hot pickles. That's gross. Oh that's so nice. That's disgusting.

[03:33:47] It's okay. Okay I don't like the wording of that. It's so big. Okay I know it's

[03:33:55] No way a clip on the internet is existing to be putting this to my mouth.

[03:33:58] It's all in a pouch.

[03:33:59] Things Micah said before.

[03:34:00] Who bought these?

[03:34:01] Hot mama.

[03:34:02] Rasmus bought them for us.

[03:34:03] Oh thank you Rasmus.

[03:34:05] Thanks.

[03:34:05] For charity minigales.

[03:34:06] This is a cock in a box.

[03:34:09] I can feel it.

[03:34:10] It's very...

[03:34:12] John don't...

[03:34:14] Careful.

[03:34:15] Yeah sorry, sorry.

[03:34:15] I'll just put it down.

[03:34:17] Oh donations!

[03:34:18] But drop the cock John.

[03:34:24] I'm gonna break the display.

[03:34:27] Oh Jesus Christ. So what was that? 16,000 for pickle time. Not me. I'll do it. With

[03:34:40] Jesse and Mike. I don't, I want the children to get the money they need Mike. Do not. That's

[03:34:45] not fair. That's not fair. That's really neat. I did not know we were buying hot cocks.

[03:34:52] right I didn't know we'd come there

[03:34:54] that's miss

[03:34:56] oh we have so many donations

[03:34:58] no we don't thank you so much

[03:35:00] get to that $16,000

[03:35:02] gold if you want to see

[03:35:04] it's all moist is a juice

[03:35:06] what's this game

[03:35:08] it's swimming in a queue

[03:35:10] I love the big pickle

[03:35:14] awful just awful

[03:35:16] everything is bad

[03:35:20] the amount of smuggling going on to this desk

[03:35:22] going on to this desk. If they aren't pulling I can also show up a little bit of stuff if

[03:35:28] we're done talking about pickles. I mean I'm sure they can read a book in there in the

[03:35:31] hospital can't they? Hold on we're not done with pickles. Instead of games. Yeah they

[03:35:34] can read a book. Just give them books. Yeah we'll be fine. A coloring book. How much

[03:35:37] is a coloring book? Can't be that much. Is that a dollar? Yeah it'll form a crane

[03:35:41] or something it'll be alright. We can get someone else involved because we have

[03:35:44] another $10 donation from the other rat, Bracket Medic. I want to cast with you too

[03:35:50] But production won't let me!

[03:35:52] Awww!

[03:35:53] Come join us!

[03:35:54] No it's not because you've got pickle for you!

[03:35:57] Oh yeah come and eat the pickle!

[03:35:59] $800 to you to eat the pickle!

[03:36:02] Yeah get your donation us in!

[03:36:04] That's the image you want at Worlds!

[03:36:07] You with a big green cock in your mouth!

[03:36:10] That's where you going!

[03:36:12] It's a gherkin!

[03:36:14] Apparently that's the Brit term, not a global term, everyone else calls it a pickle.

[03:36:18] Yeah, they have all weird terms for us stuff over there. Don't like it

[03:36:23] Pickles yours

[03:36:25] We claim eggplants

[03:36:28] Yeah

[03:36:31] There's another name for it

[03:36:35] Oh, but you know what?

[03:36:37] So you guys instead of just being an adult and saying it's chicken nuggets. You call it goozle. Oh

[03:36:43] No, ten days

[03:36:45] You guys call it tenders

[03:36:47] So you're like, I thought, you Jesse, you're responsible for a lot of mistakes.

[03:36:52] True.

[03:36:53] Yes.

[03:36:54] Everything that happens in America can be attributed to me.

[03:36:56] Jordan, I cannot look at the screen anymore.

[03:36:59] Why?

[03:37:00] Oh my goodness.

[03:37:01] I am not eating that pickle.

[03:37:03] Hang on a second.

[03:37:04] Wait.

[03:37:05] I'm not eating that pickle.

[03:37:06] Where's Medic?

[03:37:07] Get him in it.

[03:37:08] I'm going to try really hard not to sign us out.

[03:37:14] Medic.

[03:37:15] We had a 777.777.

[03:37:26] That's extremely generous on top of being funny.

[03:37:30] It's ridiculous.

[03:37:31] From Anonymous, while I was dealing with a certain rat's grand,

[03:37:37] he found a bit of gold.

[03:37:39] We're not there yet.

[03:37:40] You're prematurely sucking the pickle, you're prematurely sucking pickle.

[03:37:47] What is it with you? You've got to wait for the right time.

[03:37:51] It's not there yet. Have a feel of this bag.

[03:37:55] I felt it before, we bought it specifically for you.

[03:37:57] You can feel the room so good though.

[03:37:59] Stop manhandling the pickles. I thought it was loaded.

[03:38:03] Is that not?

[03:38:05] It's close.

[03:38:07] Yes, we broke the 16k! We did it!

[03:38:12] I'm smelling it.

[03:38:13] Okay, but here's the thing.

[03:38:14] Right.

[03:38:14] You said you'd eat the hot chip.

[03:38:17] I will eat the hot chip all day rather than this.

[03:38:19] But you didn't for the 12,000!

[03:38:21] I will do it now!

[03:38:22] Well, no, I will...

[03:38:23] Am I having to have the hot chip again?

[03:38:25] Oh, f**k!

[03:38:26] Oh, that stinks, dude!

[03:38:28] Oh, my God!

[03:38:31] Can I...

[03:38:32] I'm not gonna say that.

[03:38:33] Wait, okay.

[03:38:33] I have a snifter at that.

[03:38:34] Oh, my God!

[03:38:35] All right, hit, hit, hit.

[03:38:37] If you eat the hot chip, I'll eat the tickle.

[03:38:39] No, I think we go half as on this.

[03:38:40] You ever see...

[03:38:42] You ever see the lady in the trunk?

[03:38:44] Oh, God.

[03:38:45] Are you lady in the trunk in it for the kids?

[03:38:47] Yeah, okay, let me switch my headset

[03:38:48] around so they get a full view.

[03:38:49] It'll be like Alex cake and whatever the emo is of you,

[03:38:52] like, when people put, oh my, why is it so green?

[03:38:59] All right, so, Leaky Sports,

[03:39:02] if you're looking for a profile picture

[03:39:03] for the talent announcement.

[03:39:04] Are you ready?

[03:39:05] Yeah.

[03:39:20] Tons of guys have this problem.

[03:39:22] It's not a big deal.

[03:39:24] It's a vinegar.

[03:39:39] It's not hot.

[03:39:41] It's not filled with juice.

[03:39:43] I can't believe you spit.

[03:39:45] Are you kidding me?

[03:39:47] No, no, no. I won't.

[03:39:49] This is the worst day ever.

[03:39:53] I don't even want to put it back in my mouth.

[03:39:55] I'm gonna put it in there.

[03:39:57] That thing is repugnantly bad.

[03:39:59] That is a next level fail.

[03:40:01] Right, Jordan?

[03:40:03] Oh!

[03:40:04] John!

[03:40:04] No!

[03:40:05] Jesse, you're joining us.

[03:40:07] Jesse's up!

[03:40:08] I'll have the hot chip again.

[03:40:10] You take it, you get it.

[03:40:11] I'll have it.

[03:40:12] Can you, uh, I'm muted.

[03:40:13] I'm not muted.

[03:40:14] Okay, I'm off.

[03:40:15] There's a skate, dude.

[03:40:16] Right away.

[03:40:17] Call Jesus.

[03:40:18] Oh my God, it's wet.

[03:40:19] My socks are wet now.

[03:40:21] I've got vinegar crotch.

[03:40:23] Jesse, be prepared as if you're eating an eyeball.

[03:40:27] Oh my God.

[03:40:29] It's very much like eating an eyeball, Jesse.

[03:40:31] It's really...

[03:40:33] It's contained stuff.

[03:40:35] It's gonna be the pickled Maxwell analysis step.

[03:40:37] Oh my!

[03:40:38] Is it slimy?

[03:40:42] Yes. It's so much juice.

[03:40:44] It's dripping.

[03:40:45] Yeah, it's gushing down your hands, dude.

[03:40:47] You try to, like, sell it like a hard lumberjack type guy

[03:40:50] so I can see the juice pouring out of your...

[03:40:55] I need the hot chip to wash it down.

[03:40:57] It's bad, right?

[03:41:05] Oh, don't even. Don't even.

[03:41:07] Ow! No! No! Please stop.

[03:41:11] We're gonna go to Cums for a minute.

[03:41:14] I think, uh, yeah, we're gonna...

[03:41:16] Hot, throbbing, green juice off my buns, and Jesse and Josie's pickle.

[03:41:21] We'll be back in a minute. Thank you for the donation.

[03:53:28] Hello, and welcome back to the Race to World First, where we may have had one of our best

[03:53:33] segments ever. At least I enjoyed it. You look like you had a great time.

[03:53:37] It smells so bad over here now. It is awful. It is... I'm starting on that clutch.

[03:53:42] Just a pickle, bro.

[03:53:44] It was so funny, you peed yourself.

[03:53:47] Me and you.

[03:53:48] Yeah, later. Yeah, I want to talk to my child.

[03:53:53] Yeah, I mean, you later. But I mean, it's, I guess, yeah, OK, kids are happy. Cool.

[03:53:58] Yeah, I mean, we did get some amazing donations in.

[03:54:01] It was really worth it.

[03:54:03] Thanks, Jay. You did nothing.

[03:54:05] I was present.

[03:54:07] You were there. I was supervising.

[03:54:08] Witness to the scene.

[03:54:10] I was trying not to vomit.

[03:54:11] I was laughing so much.

[03:54:12] I had tears in my eyes. I couldn't see.

[03:54:14] It was, it was not hot.

[03:54:16] The Hots Pickle Challenge, at least for those who didn't eat it.

[03:54:18] Jesse says it was hot. Yeah, I'm gonna be if you swallowed it was filled with a cup of vinegar water

[03:54:24] And I think the medic both got gushed straight into the mouth hose down with vinegar water

[03:54:29] Which then spilled onto our pants. We've now got vinegar pants

[03:54:33] Is it funny?

[03:54:38] Well, thank you, thank you very very much for that you smashed that about five minutes, which is again

[03:54:46] I believe I've done enough for the kids. I have done more than enough.

[03:54:53] Yeah, I mean raising money for games, for love, providing wonderful distraction therapy for children in a hospital.

[03:55:01] A very amazing cause. One dollar helps one child so fantastic work.

[03:55:07] Our next charity goal being the $20,000 goal for scuffed cosplay.

[03:55:12] Although we do have another hot chip if we wanted to put one in the middle.

[03:55:15] the middle what is wrong with you I'm from America I've been worse what like

[03:55:22] your own hot dogs yeah exactly have you had an American hot dog they're worth

[03:55:27] the pickle corn dog for the first time yeah bad right yeah it was very sweet

[03:55:32] yeah Jesse's like desperate for more food challenges at any step of the way

[03:55:40] I think it's a five dollars Jesse elite

[03:55:43] the chips minimum I mean I would

[03:55:46] I would have a sweet raspberry oh no

[03:55:55] raspberry we have got a poll the guys

[03:55:59] are off and they're chunking it down my

[03:56:02] friends they're absolutely chunking it

[03:56:04] we'll get to your messages whatever we

[03:56:05] can there's obviously gonna be a few

[03:56:06] little breaks along the way as they

[03:56:09] push forward here we are at the

[03:56:11] seven of the eight bosses as the reset is looming coming close obviously it'll be

[03:56:17] about 24 hours for the US. Gakko do have all day tomorrow and night if they choose

[03:56:22] to which they want as they prepare for the resets here in the EU. Hopefully with

[03:56:27] some little dirty nerves to the other bosses. Yeah we do have some slight

[03:56:30] class tuning that was announced I think a few days ago that's coming with the

[03:56:35] reset. No announced boss changes

[03:56:42] yet, although I can imagine that

[03:56:43] the Brew Twister and Kyveza will

[03:56:45] probably take a big nerf because

[03:56:47] they were extremely difficult,

[03:56:49] even for the Race to World First

[03:56:51] Guilds, wrapping up pool counts

[03:56:53] for about 300. And the first

[03:56:55] four being quite easy, you know,

[03:56:57] amuses me looking at liquid pool

[03:56:59] counts because you had one, one,

[03:57:01] one, one, one, 20, 300.

[03:57:03] jump and I can imagine a lot of the uh let's say high-end mythic community you're probably

[03:57:08] around the four boss mark and then it's just such a big jump going from that to the other side. I

[03:57:13] can imagine they probably will get a little bit of a nerf. Ooh a little bit of overstepping there

[03:57:17] thankfully is the tank so it's not the worst thing in the world there Jeremy you're absolutely

[03:57:21] correct a bit of a shambles uh right now certainly in that world uh 20th and it's cute. It's so

[03:57:27] cute when they rotate like that. Yeah the world the world oh no they touched each other boom

[03:57:33] No touchy no touchy no touchy friends no touchy no consent given there and that is game over for those good

[03:57:41] Those dudes as Chungus hits the wall in a full and arbitrary style, but a great fight in front of them here

[03:57:47] This is obviously a much more mechanical challenge than the other fight so far

[03:57:50] This takes delicate delicate movements really considered operations and we did have their best poor at 68.9

[03:57:58] in a couple of years ago before they had a toilet break and Jesse, what did we find out on that pull?

[03:58:03] A lot of stuff actually and I've pulled up the replay again because I want to highlight a couple of the strategic moments before we get into the details.

[03:58:11] So of course the highlight of their strategy currently is the rotation

[03:58:16] they do for each of the three orb drops in phase one.

[03:58:18] They spread out, drop their orbs, and then the planets go spinning around the boss in order to collect all of them.

[03:58:25] it happens again at about 55 seconds in as they move over to the side here and just continually

[03:58:33] repeating this strategy. This is working very effectively for them in Phase 1, just astronomy

[03:58:38] in action. Then going into the intermission right around here, they attempt to replicate it,

[03:58:46] but there's two issues. First of all, the slices make it extremely difficult to soak and

[03:58:51] There are way more orbs. Every single pulse creates an entire wave of orbs, whereas only

[03:58:56] three sets of orbs occur in the entirety of phase one until the emission starts. So interestingly,

[03:59:00] what happens, and I'm going to switch over to an analytical tool here, is that this is the,

[03:59:05] this is a chart of the damage taken from soaking orbs, the dot damage. You can see that we go

[03:59:10] from three spikes in phase one, which are the three waves occurring in phase one to a non-stop

[03:59:15] onslaught of everyone constantly ticking down from it in phase two, that intermission. And

[03:59:20] And that's extremely difficult to heal through

[03:59:22] on top of the entropic barrages coming through.

[03:59:24] I'm creating the primary challenge right now.

[03:59:27] And that's actually causing people to over-soak

[03:59:29] in order to extend the pull,

[03:59:31] resulting in touch of death.

[03:59:32] Cause if you soak three, you get executed.

[03:59:34] Yep.

[03:59:35] Yeah, 100%.

[03:59:36] This is a different style of fight entirely.

[03:59:38] Blizzard isn't really good at mixing it up.

[03:59:39] They've had everything from blasting coordination,

[03:59:43] AOE, fiesta, brood swister,

[03:59:44] single target training, dummy that murders you brutally.

[03:59:47] This raid is absolutely insane so far.

[03:59:50] the requirements, the compositions, how difficult earlier bosses are, how tightly tuned they are.

[03:59:56] This is quite a legendary race indeed and we're only at the penultimate boss now.

[04:00:01] We haven't even seen Queen Ancerac, the final boss of the raid tier.

[04:00:06] What is that?

[04:00:07] Who put the...

[04:00:09] Okay, you guys cleaned the desk.

[04:00:14] Well, I had to be a medic and to go wash our faces.

[04:00:17] Oh, who decorated the desk?

[04:00:19] Yeah, beautiful.

[04:00:20] Thanks production. Yeah, it was production. Where's yours? Oh

[04:00:25] I don't know okay full princess mode activated over here not you've not got a ridiculous picture of you putting something in your mouth

[04:00:32] Have you not what a shame? Well, I know about hot chips. What do you know?

[04:00:36] Hot chips. I had one of these already. Well, where's your picture pain

[04:00:42] Shambles it's only for 16 year olds

[04:00:44] I can't have it then.

[04:00:47] I'm too little hot chip here right for you, look at this little pepper, a happy pepper.

[04:00:53] Isn't it nice that the box is shaped like a coffin?

[04:00:55] How many chips are in here?

[04:00:56] Very ominous, one I think.

[04:00:58] Isn't it one that you're supposed to split?

[04:01:00] Well, maybe not supposed to split, but me and Alex did split it.

[04:01:04] Oh, was it?

[04:01:05] The instructions are in German.

[04:01:07] Okay.

[04:01:08] And you've had one of these.

[04:01:11] I have.

[04:01:12] It's two million scovilled?

[04:01:14] not a lot I don't think actually what do you mean that's not a lot that was like

[04:01:17] the person that I was second on the scale at the very top I refuse to sit here

[04:01:22] in vinegar right well you see here doing nothing I you know I almost vomited

[04:01:29] laughing you've not even got a picture that's that's Alex easy look I'm gonna

[04:01:36] need a picture of Jordan with a hot chip in her mouth thank you I mean it's

[04:01:42] only fair. You're right. It is. I've not been the butt of every joke. That's not happening.

[04:01:48] That's not happening. Well, we're glad we're here and we're doing well and we're having fun and the

[04:01:52] guys are now ahead. They're happy. We think they're ahead. Obviously, we don't know how

[04:01:56] liquid got on last night when they went dark. We'll certainly find out later this afternoon,

[04:02:00] but it's this is a great place for echo. They love this. They don't care what the

[04:02:03] competition is doing now. They are just free to science and learn and put things into place

[04:02:09] that they like to have happen. Yeah and again they are really really really good energy across the

[04:02:15] building. I went downstairs and I went past Team Melee, push and nice means just hovering around

[04:02:23] the table tennis table. Yeah that's not quite their fault we don't want to give you the impression

[04:02:27] that the second they have breaks and they dive to the table tennis. They have closed our

[04:02:32] toilets on this floor so the toilets are being used downstairs now but it is next to the

[04:02:37] table tennis. Well, their job is to go left. That's it. Right, so far we've not seen any

[04:02:46] of them all. Yes, I'm not difficult, that's what I'm hearing.

[04:02:49] I think they have one of the easiest jobs in this fight, to be honest. I think that's

[04:02:53] fair. They have to cleave. They have to go left and they have to cleave and soak some

[04:02:58] orbs. But beyond that, as you can see here is the ranged who are dealing with this.

[04:03:03] Teddy.

[04:03:04] Nice. Nice. Very tender steps.

[04:03:08] Very, very tender steps like a kid sneaking a cookie from the kitchen at night is what is needed here in this fight.

[04:03:14] Oh, we've got fire. Burn, baby, burn.

[04:03:17] Alright, so we're hopeful playing fire. We've seen Jinji tried Frost for a few pulls.

[04:03:23] We've seen Arcane. Now we're seeing fire as well. There will be a buff coming on Reset.

[04:03:28] It'll be interesting to see if this is in preparation.

[04:03:32] Yeah, it's just because of the lower cooldown lines up. Well, again, it might be cool down much in the damage. I can imagine

[04:03:38] It would be just because I mean passively will always help on the ads

[04:03:42] But this fight has very unique cooldown timings

[04:03:44] There are multiple vulnerable damage windows on a very odd short timers and you also have the intermission as well

[04:03:51] So it could very well be that fires cooldown sign up much nicer

[04:03:55] I do like that. You can nullify the spawning of an orb

[04:03:58] I bet anti-magic shell is doing the same thing. Yeah, if you see they are actually rotating immunities to minimize the

[04:04:05] Application of that venomous dot and nullify the orb so about a third of the raid they're immune for that round interesting

[04:04:12] So yeah back in combustion back up again. Yeah

[04:04:16] Yeah, we see what you're doing. Hopefully see what you're putting down. I don't know if he swaps all his gear and stats to

[04:04:22] What spy he might just be checking out how the lineup works

[04:04:25] with that if you can have his if you can combust every single damage amp that

[04:04:30] might lead to some good results as you see there as well as the

[04:04:34] intermission right because you just had that damage phase and now you've got the

[04:04:37] intermission again so if you're popping the cooldowns in the

[04:04:39] vulnerable damage window but you also need to pop the shield in the

[04:04:42] intermission so I assume you can still scotch run endlessly which will

[04:04:48] probably help with the mobility in the later phase as well gonna be a ton of

[04:04:51] It's going to be an execute phase for quite a while.

[04:04:54] Yeah, fire is extremely mobile, so it could very well be.

[04:04:58] That might be a play and it is getting buffed tomorrow?

[04:05:02] Yeah, so it'll be tomorrow for NA and then Wednesday for EU.

[04:05:06] Yeah, we have lost now though. The tank has gone down in this intermission.

[04:05:10] They have got the combat res available though. They can get Robin back on his feet,

[04:05:14] which will be preferable obviously to Cannex and Trago.

[04:05:17] No disrespect to them, but a tank is more important than the DPS right now.

[04:05:20] fight is on a pure timer so it's a case of seeing more experiencing more doing

[04:05:25] all those kind of things no res on to Robin yet though this hopeful gets dragged

[04:05:30] in okay do you see that it's dragging one color you know it's dragging both of

[04:05:36] them but instead of dragging you into the center it drags you toward the boss

[04:05:39] and you can see it drops both color orbs on each side yeah but they're not

[04:05:42] touching when they don't get pulled all the way they've accounted for it good

[04:05:46] good good as long as you're pre-spread on correct sides you're

[04:05:49] Yeah, that was a scary mechanic when I was saying before when I saw that on her own

[04:05:52] It's like how's it gonna work with the not being able to connect with half of your raid?

[04:05:57] It does seem like they're in different positions when they get dragged in

[04:06:01] Great

[04:06:02] Thank you

[04:06:04] Cheers blizz. Thanks production

[04:06:06] So I am currently trending

[04:06:18] Sometimes dreams do come true. You've peaked. That's it the last three times

[04:06:22] I've trended odd and something really weird. It's all ended up

[04:06:26] Mini going viral or whatever has been for horrible reasons

[04:06:30] Funny lovely which of course attracted attention to mr. Soakin

[04:06:36] Many people

[04:06:38] Dress up in the same costume now

[04:06:40] Including mr. G for beef with G to be lovely beef. I've just rife haze is wore that costume

[04:06:46] You have not wore the honey be lovely. No, you have

[04:06:49] I've disrespected our queen, why is that?

[04:06:51] Because I would never disrespect our queen.

[04:06:54] What you have by not emulating her powers

[04:06:57] in tribute would be a real shame

[04:07:01] if Honeyby Lovely was in production room.

[04:07:03] It would be a shame.

[04:07:04] Wouldn't that be a shame?

[04:07:05] Yeah, why do I feel scared?

[04:07:08] What is happening?

[04:07:09] That would be a real shame if we was a hit,

[04:07:11] I don't know, 17 grand.

[04:07:14] What's this for?

[04:07:15] Honeyby Lovely.

[04:07:16] She's here.

[04:07:17] She's here!

[04:07:18] She's here. What? She's here. In what form? She's in the production room. What he be lovely

[04:07:26] has gone international. I think she'll make an appearance. Do you want to look at very

[04:07:30] nervous now? Have you picked a lover? Hey? Oh, pickle. Save me namazoo. Keep me away.

[04:07:36] I think it's stretched to death. I could dress up as a namazoo. I don't think Jonathan

[04:07:41] could get in that outfit. It's been stretched to death. But medic. Many a people. Medic

[04:07:47] Oh Alex!

[04:07:48] Oh Alex!

[04:07:49] Medic, be lovely.

[04:07:50] Alex, be lovely.

[04:07:51] There's a serious threat here.

[04:07:54] Oh it is!

[04:07:55] Oh it's here.

[04:07:56] Oh it's actually here.

[04:07:57] I thought you were winding me up.

[04:08:00] Okay.

[04:08:01] Well, chat's choice then.

[04:08:02] I don't travel without it these days.

[04:08:04] You never know when it comes in handy.

[04:08:07] Oh the wrong phrase.

[04:08:08] What the hell?

[04:08:09] Be thankful you don't know if you don't know.

[04:08:12] If you don't know, yeah.

[04:08:13] But you may know.

[04:08:14] know. If you do know, then you know. Yeah, if you do know, then you know. If you don't

[04:08:18] know, you may know. And be thankful that will the Warcrafts raid bosses don't follow a similar

[04:08:23] pattern. That would not fit at all. I mean, I don't know if we could dress up as chungus.

[04:08:28] I want to see Ansurek be lovely. Awww. New mythic face. Oh yeah, it just turns into

[04:08:33] a bee. It turns, it travels to the Arcadian and then it gets real. It's real weird.

[04:08:38] That would be fantastic. Do you think there's going to be a mythic face? No, but

[04:08:43] would fit. That's the dichotomy of it. No, I don't think there is one. I mean, it's historically

[04:08:49] never had one in the first tier. This tier is already extremely hard.

[04:08:52] Let's have more.

[04:08:55] But it fits if there is one. She does not fully ascend during her fight. It has been

[04:08:59] pointed out by many people. Obviously, Mr Nobble on top of all of that is like this

[04:09:02] doesn't fit what's supposed to be happening in what happens in normal and heroic. She's

[04:09:06] supposed to be fully ascended and the cutscene says she's fully ascended, but that

[04:09:09] isn't what happens. So there is definitely potential for it to exist in the story of

[04:09:14] what's happening in the war within. But given the history of the first tier, I mean I would

[04:09:19] love to have one. I really would.

[04:09:21] Yeah, because we didn't get one at all last expansion, I don't think, and that was also

[04:09:25] a little bit unusual.

[04:09:26] Yeah, we didn't, did we?

[04:09:28] No.

[04:09:29] And the one we really hoped there would be, and we kind of, we made a mistake as

[04:09:32] casters I think. I'll take the blame on this because I definitely did, is we thought

[04:09:36] Sarkaroth definitely had one because that fight was too much.

[04:09:39] easy. Yeah, I was, and there was a lot of interesting things going on behind the scenes

[04:09:45] with hotfixes and things like that. It definitely seems to indicate there was something else

[04:09:48] to Sarkareth. And then it died and we were like, oh, yeah, okay, we're just doing a two

[04:09:53] day race then I guess. We're just, it's just a really easy raid.

[04:09:57] All right. Because you know, when we're looking at Queen Anzrak and we're saying

[04:10:00] there is so much going on, I don't know if we could add another phase. And then

[04:10:04] when we was looking at Sarkareth, it kind of went the other way of like, oh,

[04:10:07] it's not really, I mean there was a lot going on that fight but there wasn't really too much to it.

[04:10:10] I was thinking okay well the mythic phase would be perfect but yeah then it didn't end up happening.

[04:10:15] Traditionally it would be the final rate here of the expansion, that's usually when you see the

[04:10:20] unique mythic phase so for anyone who may not know what we're talking about when we're talking

[04:10:24] about it. So essentially just a phase of the boss that only appears on mythic difficulty, it

[04:10:29] kind of says it in the name. We've had bosses in the past where it's just a visual because

[04:10:34] because it was Argus in Antorus, in Legion, the boss would change and turn red.

[04:10:39] I don't know if that counts as a mythic phase.

[04:10:41] We've got a nice special weapon for it, which is nice.

[04:10:44] Scythe?

[04:10:45] Yeah, I use mine still, on my druid.

[04:10:47] It's very pretty actually, very nice.

[04:10:48] It's a very rare dropper, isn't it?

[04:10:50] I don't know.

[04:10:52] I'm rubbish at this kind of stuff, I have it.

[04:10:54] I just loot it first time, I don't know.

[04:10:56] People always get annoyed when I loot stuff, because I'm like, oh is that any good?

[04:11:00] And like dude, I've been farming that for 10 years.

[04:11:02] Did you get all the wings, Mountain Final Fantasy?

[04:11:04] I did. Nice.

[04:11:05] Yeah, I did. Did you?

[04:11:07] Yeah.

[04:11:08] Like fourth kill.

[04:11:09] Dead job.

[04:11:10] No.

[04:11:11] Wingless and poor.

[04:11:13] Absolutely correct.

[04:11:15] All right.

[04:11:16] All you have to do is farm the boss 65 times.

[04:11:19] Which is how long it took me to get my wings.

[04:11:21] 65 boss kills, easy.

[04:11:23] At least you can back to back them.

[04:11:25] There's no weekly reset there.

[04:11:26] So you can just keep spamming the boss over and over again.

[04:11:29] It's extreme difficulty.

[04:11:30] It was a lot of fun for about one paw.

[04:11:34] Queen Anterrack drops three mounts I think, doesn't she?

[04:11:38] She dropped like a dragon riding variant and then the head of the kerb mount potentially

[04:11:42] or myroic and well maybe it's not myroic and then you also have the mythic only mount as well.

[04:11:46] Yeah maybe we should do a Roger's treasure trove soonish

[04:11:50] in the next couple of hours because there is a mythic boost available there

[04:11:54] where you will be able to get those mounts. It's a full mythic boost with Echo

[04:11:58] Obviously upon completion of the raid they're not going to boost you this week

[04:12:01] And you will be able to receive the mounts as well

[04:12:04] So she'll give us stuff now

[04:12:05] We're watching at Wolf Disco and Gigi who have become bestie mates and they're going to circle around each other and soak each other's

[04:12:10] Arbs like gentle sirs and then in preparation for chungust to charge across the room

[04:12:17] Yeah

[04:12:20] Little tender feet going across

[04:12:23] We do look like toddlers trying to get across the bedroom like, I'm coming!

[04:12:28] Help me there, read it a minute.

[04:12:30] Nice damage up there.

[04:12:32] He's fine, he's fine, maybe.

[04:12:34] But in submission, we're going in, it's not super clean, we have used the combat res,

[04:12:38] but what they're looking for here is that final wave that Jesse showed us earlier

[04:12:41] with massive amounts of damage on the raid.

[04:12:44] So we've got a multitude of things happening here guys.

[04:12:46] The melee is staying in this little circular group where you can see Wolf Disco

[04:12:50] this go and Gigi make a little friendship here and as these pulses go out to soak they

[04:12:55] orbit around each other in order to pick up each other's orbs so you can see they drop

[04:13:00] here then they do a little orbit. It's very pretty. Yankob going down here this is the

[04:13:04] first fight he's been in since brood twister I think. Now they've divided up, now they're

[04:13:10] going to regroup, they're not going to stay a little bit of confusion on the

[04:13:13] movement there of where they want to be the melee are going to go around and

[04:13:15] Soak the orbs as they pass through into where the red team was hanging out.

[04:13:20] If you need to get those on the left, they're going to get them now.

[04:13:22] Also, managing there, obviously, you're not going to get three,

[04:13:25] otherwise, they are marked for death, and they don't want to tap them.

[04:13:28] But we're through!

[04:13:29] Yeah!

[04:13:29] This is good!

[04:13:30] Yeah, and we're going into phase two now,

[04:13:33] where you will have dispels going out onto the raiders,

[04:13:37] and once dispelled, have to be dragged in as well,

[04:13:40] once dispelled, it will move to the closest target,

[04:13:43] and they want to be putting them back onto the boss to stun her.

[04:13:47] Yeah, they got some-

[04:13:48] That movement's really cool because you get dragged in, you leave orbs behind where you

[04:13:52] were.

[04:13:53] So they have to separate immediately after the submission, which they can stay where

[04:13:55] they were, red and blue.

[04:13:58] Then they get dragged in together, but not all the way.

[04:14:00] So obviously it wouldn't work if they all collided because if you touched them

[04:14:03] with the opposite color you'd die.

[04:14:04] But then they have to run away like we ordinarily do and snap the webs, but

[04:14:08] they can't do that yet.

[04:14:10] because they also have to orbit as a group to where the other colour wear, soak them orbs, then snap the mobs, which is going to be a humundous amount of raid damage, I think, because those webs really hurt.

[04:14:23] We can come up. Oh no. Our boy is here. Mr. Roger Brown has some treasure in his pants and he wants to give it to you

[04:14:32] Yes, he has four million channel points. These are channel points accumulated for free. They're not useful for anything else

[04:14:38] Just here on switch if you have our stream open you are

[04:14:41] Earning these good job everyone. We broke twitch again

[04:14:43] So this is not quite the number that it is that we're seeing we need four million channel points

[04:14:49] contributed. Everyone is

[04:14:55] you've met the goal which you earn these points through passively watching the stream. So you, you know, get rewarded from watching and there's no other way to spend channel points. You may as well throw them at the giveaway. Once we reach that goal, we will be drawing two prizes. We're giving away two prizes this time. We will do a poll team spider or team crab and we will draw from the lovely envelopes right here.

[04:15:17] Wow, we're already a quarter done. I think we're a lot more

[04:15:24] You're over halfway done two million to go guys just throw your channel points in and we've got all these these are all things for you guys to

[04:15:31] Give away, we've got so much stuff just like Jordan just pointed out there

[04:15:34] We've got we've got a load of Elgato stream decks to give away

[04:15:38] Bunch of Corsair stuff the mythic boost to get the mounts that we're just telling you about all those things

[04:15:43] are ready along with a bunch of jerseys, merch, displates. Yeah, there are so many things you

[04:15:48] can win. And we might have some insider info because I believe Jordan stuffed these envelopes.

[04:15:53] I did. Who's got the better side? Uh, that's us baddest. It may be equal. You could at

[04:16:02] least lie. Some of them are empty. Wow. 3.2 mil is actually in. You have broken the

[04:16:10] counter it's just 800k to go guys you are very close to this special prizes in

[04:16:17] crab and special prizes in spider crabs is never a special prize what I don't

[04:16:21] know what the doctor says

[04:16:24] I think it's your doctor telling you that. Who told you? The insulcent down

[04:16:31] the road. Oh yeah my special doctor, my special crab prize. I'm lucky Essex

[04:16:39] It's very classic, that fits in.

[04:16:44] You guys are right nearly there,

[04:16:45] we'll do the draw after this pull.

[04:16:47] Obviously we never ever ever will interrupt progression

[04:16:50] as much as humanly possible for you guys.

[04:16:52] Always slotting in wherever we feel we can.

[04:16:55] So get it in, it's almost there.

[04:16:57] It's always totally done.

[04:16:59] Good job team.

[04:17:00] Good job everyone.

[04:17:01] What a squad.

[04:17:02] Yeah, it seems like we broke the pull as well.

[04:17:06] Good job Echo.

[04:17:06] Yeah, they wiped just so that we could draw

[04:17:09] the giveaway watch out for the poll make sure you are voting in the poll do not do x-clam,

[04:17:16] spider or crab that's not going to do anything and you may get timed out that you do want to be

[04:17:20] voting in the poll to choose whether we're drawing from team crab or team spider with the giveaway

[04:17:27] and we are drawing two prizes these prize nobody's actually used that arachnophobia mode yet

[04:17:32] not one player actually has an issue with these spiders uh no i don't know how common it is

[04:17:38] It's pretty common, but it is but I would have thought like I actually was suspecting

[04:17:45] I don't know if you were as well, but they're visually on some fight it would be better

[04:17:49] They'd be again. They were saying that actually on I think it's brood twister the arachnophobia mode

[04:17:54] There's some interaction where it makes the spider smaller or something. Oh, and I think you can see Swirlie's easier

[04:18:00] I don't know. I've read it on Twitter. So it can't be wrong. Yeah, that's internet would never lie to me

[04:18:05] I was expecting some mix I was expecting someone because you never know who's got a ragnophobia, right until that situation comes up

[04:18:12] And then they're like no dude for real spiders freak me the hell out like I can imagine it if you ever played Resident Evil 1

[04:18:19] Spiders in that game. You won't have played it. No, I played two games told yeah

[04:18:24] Wow and wow and apex. Oh, yeah, you know, she got banned in apex for being toxic

[04:18:29] What I look I called my teammate dumb. Wow. I don't think it's the worst thing

[04:18:37] It was it was I would never get banned

[04:18:43] No takes one to no one what

[04:18:46] potions

[04:18:48] Potions that the raid is using is vital to the commitment, but it is the spiders. It looks like oh, it's an easy

[04:18:54] Apparently we broke the pole as well. So it seems like we are

[04:18:58] Oh, it's definitely spider gang.

[04:19:01] All right, you go first.

[04:19:02] OK.

[04:19:03] Yeah.

[04:19:03] I'm going to go.

[04:19:04] I'm going to be left gang.

[04:19:06] Whoa, taking the front.

[04:19:07] Yeah.

[04:19:08] Risky.

[04:19:08] I know.

[04:19:09] Now, what if I did this for you, though?

[04:19:11] Let's play a little game.

[04:19:12] OK.

[04:19:13] I'm going to put this half to the side.

[04:19:15] Right.

[04:19:16] Do you want to choose again?

[04:19:17] Yes.

[04:19:18] Why?

[04:19:19] Because I want the left one and that pile now.

[04:19:21] OK.

[04:19:21] Let's give me that one back, though.

[04:19:23] I'll take this one so we know what they could have won.

[04:19:26] But they still win.

[04:19:27] OK, yeah.

[04:19:27] Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. All right. Who's opening first ladies first?

[04:19:32] vinegar pants first

[04:19:34] Anybody's thinking boy first anybody who's got pickle crotch make it open first

[04:19:40] Stop laughing at it. Okay. It was a juicy pickle

[04:19:45] Stop laughing at it

[04:19:48] Give me a complex so close to a bomb missing from laughing. Don't vomit at my pickle

[04:19:53] This is perfect timing actually

[04:19:58] Alright make sure you switch DMs are open. Our first prize, bonk Echo Display, the Siren

[04:20:05] one baby. Oh whichever one you want to choose I think. I'm not sure. Yeah I think you can

[04:20:08] choose from the range of the current Brace to World first or maybe. Yeah you got a choice.

[04:20:13] Brace to World. Okay you got a choice. Echo Display, number one, Bang Bang, the Textural

[04:20:18] Life one. Whoa. Whoa. They are cool. I assume we're getting this to take home

[04:20:22] right Mitch? Hey, we get these two. Woohoo! We get a free one. Get wrecked. All we have

[04:20:30] to do is sit in castels for a week. I didn't even bother doing that.

[04:20:35] Oh yeah, wait, hold on a second. Hold.

[04:20:38] Pickle. Pickle.

[04:20:39] Well, there, okay, maybe we're equal now. We have the second prize. Wait, Mitch, are

[04:20:46] we just drawing two in this? Okay, so it's the Silverian Dreamer Mount.

[04:20:51] Which one's that? Sylvainium families?

[04:20:54] It's the dragon, I think it's the bluey, what you can see in the...

[04:20:58] Oh, it's that one?

[04:20:59] Yeah, just behind the rabbit and the fish.

[04:21:02] Cool!

[04:21:03] Big X...

[04:21:04] X Thumb Spider!

[04:21:05] X Thumb Spider!

[04:21:06] Do it once, dude.

[04:21:07] Yes.

[04:21:08] Yeah, don't get spammed out.

[04:21:09] You know what it's like with a lot of people in the chat.

[04:21:11] It can get busy.

[04:21:12] So X Thumb Spider, type it once.

[04:21:13] You're in.

[04:21:14] Yeah, I'll put this away for you.

[04:21:15] Thanks.

[04:21:16] Well, you're...

[04:21:17] Anything else?

[04:21:18] You're in charge of the table.

[04:21:19] It's too far away from me. Every time someone sits on the sofa they move it. I'm going to

[04:21:28] move it forward because I'm really strong. Just don't come through the mic.

[04:21:32] That was just so far I swear. Well I had duck socks, I had merlock socks and now I've just

[04:21:37] got navy socks because I was wearing trainer socks and I got told by a 10 year old that

[04:21:43] I was old for wearing trainer socks. So now I'm pretty insecure about my trainer

[04:21:48] socks got mine on old yeah yeah it's fine still play fire over on hopeful which

[04:21:58] is cool to see I don't know how long he's gonna stick with it or whether he's

[04:22:01] gonna stick with it forever but it's nice to see even more variation actually

[04:22:06] hopeful was one of the people who hadn't played a different spec of the seven

[04:22:10] we're now down to five because you just play frost and hopefuls play fire

[04:22:44] impressive especially when they're swapping between different roles right we thought uh

[04:22:48] thanna played both the presa voca holy paladin but also rep paladin we see wolf disco going from

[04:22:54] range to melee there are so many different changes as well so and nice memes for example tanking being

[04:23:00] that third tank on brood twister so it's really really impressive to see that from them and what

[04:23:06] was cool is wolf disco who's obviously they all want to take part in progression they they

[04:23:11] work so hard months and months and months to get ready for the race to

[04:23:15] world first and of course they want to be in the team obviously they've got

[04:23:18] roster 31 that means like 11 people are going to be outside at any one time and

[04:23:22] Wolf just go saw the writing on the wall just on the wall despite the

[04:23:25] fact he prepared that wall lock you can see there is fifth on the damage there

[04:23:28] he's prepared his warrior so he can come in and destroy but he saw where

[04:23:32] the wind was blowing this morning enhancement shaman he was preparing

[04:23:34] that in the background is like well enhancements blasting I'm getting one

[04:23:38] them ready if we need triple enhance we're doing it if we need quad enhance we're doing it we're

[04:23:42] sending it as much as possible so no time wasted because he was going to come and get on the count

[04:23:46] of us he was suspecting you yeah he was who was talking he came to join us in the classroom

[04:23:52] because our classroom is very cozy we've got a nice little sofa we get joined every so often

[04:23:57] when they're on a break some of the players will come in and have a little chat and we had a

[04:24:02] wolf chatting with us yesterday and we said well you know we always welcome on the sofa

[04:24:07] to come another chat with us, but when they're not in, they're still farming and trying to get every

[04:24:11] bit of scrap of upgrade they possibly can. They work towards their great bolts as well, because

[04:24:16] that's also something to mention. They have the reset looming. This by no means is finished before

[04:24:24] the reset. Reset is coming. They will need to be doing that preparation. They have the great

[04:24:29] bolts. They'll need to fill up their plus tens across the bolt. So they have all the choices.

[04:24:35] have the mythic track tier loot as well. Yeah I wonder how many of them need it

[04:24:40] because they did have an entire was it like six hours they gave them on

[04:24:45] Kaivesa morning we'll call it I'm not sure which day it was it's all a bit of a

[04:24:48] blur to go and get mythic plus while they worked on Stratton. They have so many

[04:24:53] characters though. Yeah I think most of them did plus nines so they probably

[04:24:57] need to redo for tens if they think it's necessary. It'd be interesting to

[04:25:00] see if at the biggest issue they're preparing for already anybody who's

[04:25:04] not in the raid is ballastones. They know how many ballastones they need for. Ballastones

[04:25:09] have become like the golden currency of the game.

[04:25:12] Very annoying.

[04:25:13] Yeah, a little bit. Like, yeah, I would like to unlock a certain renown, maybe just ballastones

[04:25:17] aren't a thing for me anymore. That would be nice, right? You know, if we're exalted,

[04:25:21] we're done. No more ballastones. All your upgrades are ballastone free. That would

[04:25:25] be sweet because the players have been out and that's what we were wondering why

[04:25:28] Mirrors was doing like, uh, average run of the mill world quest is like, I need

[04:25:32] ballastones.

[04:25:33] Yeah, because a lot of them were going off and doing a world quest. You're absolutely right.

[04:25:37] Yeah, the Valorstones being a very precious resource.

[04:25:39] Really? It's been the limiting factor in a lot of ways, not this week in particular, but it will be

[04:25:45] for them next week and they know that, and we certainly don't want to give up a day after reset

[04:25:49] Valorstone farming.

[04:25:50] No, because you can't endless farm them, right? It's not a limited currency, although there is a cap at 2000,

[04:25:56] which is a little bit annoying sometimes because I'll usually send all of my upgrades in one go

[04:26:01] collected the right gear, but I'm afraid of the cap where you're just naturally doing events,

[04:26:05] so I have to spend them on let's say a lower piece of gear, then when I get gear that I

[04:26:09] want I then have to re-farm them up a little bit, so it's a little bit clunky. But yeah,

[04:26:14] acquisition being a little bit easier for taking this time would be brilliant.

[04:26:18] I remember back in the day when gear was gear, you killed the boss and you got the thing.

[04:26:23] And you had azurite armor back in my day.

[04:26:26] I can't believe that's back in your day. You are so young. Oh my God. That made me feel older than my trainer socks.

[04:26:35] Jesus. Back in the day with Azurite armour. That was like last week as far as I'm concerned.

[04:26:42] Well it was like what? Two years ago?

[04:26:45] God you know one day when we're doing race to world first 75 world soul saga 2

[04:26:56] saga bugaloo yeah yeah you'll be back as far as I want I know a man who does

[04:27:06] well actually no cuz Jesse's also a zoomer at well yeah he started in

[04:27:09] Warlords Adrenal a short but bright career sir wasn't that short I did the

[04:27:14] three grindies expansions ever to exist three expansions legion bfm shadow

[04:27:19] it's so cute so cute it was my time as well you watched the jailer I had to do

[04:27:24] it oh wow look I had I had to do original veil straws before we understood

[04:27:33] things like threat control you've no idea we're kind of sick oh we were just

[04:27:37] full circus back in the day dude full circus what is going on over there pal

[04:27:41] So I've been you know doing the thing where I do the logs doing the stuff doing the stuff

[04:27:47] There's a couple of interesting things happening that is fun to pick up on I've pulled this up if we want first of all in phase one

[04:27:53] The vast majority of the damage coming in is this venom venomous rain where they have to spread out

[04:27:58] And then they take ticking damage for the duration now interestingly when this happens the first one

[04:28:04] Expires before the second one applies

[04:28:06] But then the third one comes in before the second one expires causing you to go to two stacks of the debuff

[04:28:11] Which does about a million damage every two seconds to everyone who has that two-stack in the raid

[04:28:18] Me which is a wildly high amount of damage taken and so what they're doing is they're having people pre-immune that third stack

[04:28:27] Soul using his turtle then are bubbling Jinji and hopeful ice-blocking questions from class though

[04:28:34] Yes, yes, yes, Jordan. Um, I

[04:28:38] Forgot the question

[04:28:41] what about troll racial voodoo shuffle

[04:28:45] you just said words

[04:28:46] you did say words but it translates to him

[04:28:50] yeah

[04:28:51] the pickles and

[04:28:54] no nothing to do with pickles the legitimate will first try the world

[04:28:57] first strategy in janitor there was a debuff that both did damage to you and

[04:29:01] slowed you and was designed to stack

[04:29:03] uh... but if you were troll which has a racial that diminishes duration of

[04:29:07] movement and pairing effects, that debuff would expire and stop stacking. A very powerful

[04:29:14] little thing.

[04:29:15] Was that the Intimation?

[04:29:16] Yeah, the Intimation.

[04:29:17] Yeah, it passively just cleansed.

[04:29:19] So you saw everyone in Limit and Method swapping to Troll overnight. And apparently both guilds

[04:29:24] came up with it independently.

[04:29:25] Is that true? I did not know that.

[04:29:27] We didn't know that they were doing it. I haven't heard that they knew that we

[04:29:29] were doing it.

[04:29:30] No, no, we didn't know you were doing it.

[04:29:32] That's always interesting to me. That's why, you know, one of the many reasons

[04:29:35] why you kind of wish that there was global release because I'm sure behind the scenes both guilds all the guilds will be cooking up strats

[04:29:41] I'm sure that's like one of their favorite parts as well the preparation cooking up strats testing the bosses coming up with ideas

[04:29:48] especially positioning on Chavezza for example, and then

[04:29:52] Whoever showcases whatever first

[04:29:54] I mean, I'm sure there's an element of people watching what other people do I'm not saying that does

[04:29:57] Oh, it was the worst cast ever if there are you know things that people come up with and they don't get to

[04:30:02] showcase them first, which we've seen happen to all of the girls.

[04:30:05] It's kind of a bit sad.

[04:30:06] And it's like, oh, we came up with that too.

[04:30:08] But well, we never know.

[04:30:09] Like sometimes they come up with stuff here and we find out about it.

[04:30:12] Well, like, we can't really talk about on cast.

[04:30:14] We know that it works and we know it's happening.

[04:30:17] And then usually in the post race, because they have been reasonably good

[04:30:21] about podcasting or doing something together after the race.

[04:30:24] You know, we've seen that plenty of times where liquid and echo have

[04:30:26] merged or cross paths in some way after to discuss.

[04:30:29] And they ask questions like, did you know that was a thing?

[04:30:31] like yeah yeah we did we did you know that was a thing like yeah we did yeah

[04:30:34] because I think it was um Kelthazard um in Shadowlands where uh method came up

[04:30:42] with the same tech that Echo did but Echo showcased it first

[04:30:46] the Trinket stuff yeah the Trinket stuff. The PTR like they told Blizzard that it

[04:30:51] worked and they just didn't do anything about it

[04:30:56] yeah very weird that whole Kelthazard situation was so stupid is like

[04:30:59] Yeah, this works and then they just didn't do anything about it

[04:31:02] Not that this is happening these days with them like going to the end of the earth to find out what what the players

[04:31:08] Would maybe do and what works in fact

[04:31:10] It's kind of dropping some interesting trinkets because we heard yesterday, of course for Nexus princess is one of the reasons

[04:31:16] They were all going to all cracks was the melee could have quit the tanking trinket there

[04:31:19] Which kind of was a scam for that boss and how both guilds were doing it

[04:31:23] But it gave have used it on cooldown

[04:31:25] it gave you an extra half million HP permanently for the remainder of being in combat.

[04:31:29] Yeah, exactly.

[04:31:30] So by the end of the year, the melee had like 10 million HP by the end.

[04:31:33] Not that it saved them obviously on that fight.

[04:31:35] No, I think it was only a 1% DPS loss as well, so I'm certain fine, so you can absolutely

[04:31:39] have been worth it.

[04:31:40] Yep, it was totally why you regularly saw the players going out to get all Grax runs

[04:31:45] for their tanky tanky trinkets, all those kinds of things, where they find something

[04:31:50] that's been put into the game that they can use intentionally to get around it.

[04:31:55] playing fire over here. Mr hopeful lining up his combustions for these weakened vulnerable phases

[04:32:01] the bosses run into when they are nullified from their big major mechanic. Nice to see.

[04:32:04] Yeah I think it's nice to see. I like that Jinji is staying arcane so they can probably have

[04:32:09] some comparative data just to see which cooldowns are lining up where, who's pumping the most

[04:32:14] in certain points when they might need a little bit of extra damage in the intermission for

[04:32:18] example. So I'm glad that they're testing out both specs. Especially with fire being

[04:32:22] lost on reset. I can't remember the exact buff. I know that it was already buffed. Had a 5.4%

[04:32:29] buff already, but there is another buff incoming. I wonder if Fanna ran into Robin there. That's

[04:32:36] where they'll lie to me. As Chung just hits that wall, Jay, he loves that wall. Dealing so much,

[04:32:43] Darren. It's his favourite wall. The headbutt wall. I love this wall. I'll show you.

[04:32:47] Yeah, it's still very tricky and no doubt exactly what Jesse pointed out there is a

[04:32:51] horrendous amount of raid damage. Not only that, of course, touching another player of an opposite color is going to insta-kill you

[04:32:58] While everything else is going on. Yeah, no hugs. They're just a little bit of hand-holding. No hoogies

[04:33:03] No hoogies for Echo today, and that's totally fine. It's gonna be brutal though. This is yeah

[04:33:09] I'm looking at another 300 puller here. Yeah, because you know phase it's kind of easing you into the fight

[04:33:16] I did think that phase one would be much harder than it is.

[04:33:20] It feels like they're still working,

[04:33:22] but they kind of relatively solved it now.

[04:33:25] But yeah, after phase two,

[04:33:27] when you're going further into the fight,

[04:33:29] especially in phase three,

[04:33:31] where you kind of have all of the mechanics up at once,

[04:33:34] that's gonna be mayhem.

[04:33:36] That's gonna be lust and hold onto your butts,

[04:33:39] say bye-bye to this.

[04:33:40] We're not gonna see it.

[04:33:41] We're not gonna see what they did in Heroic, right?

[04:33:43] Where they just like flagged north.

[04:33:44] mechanic and just sent every defensive and hope for the best. It'll die after that pretty

[04:33:48] sure.

[04:33:49] They weren't getting the dispels out, they were just letting the dispel, just kind of

[04:33:53] the boss just cast which is huge damage across the raid. They're just letting it cast, especially

[04:33:57] on normal, they should let every single one go through because they're just popping

[04:34:00] cooldowns and living through it.

[04:34:01] Yeah, anything we could ignore, we will. That is not going to be happening on Mythic

[04:34:04] God. It's going to be an extensive final phase of this fight even with them burning

[04:34:08] it down. But this is the fight they were all dreading. They knew this one was

[04:34:12] going to be a tough customer they have two days to work on it getting that

[04:34:16] wonderful kill this morning and they're doing their practice and learning I hate

[04:34:21] how close the detonation is yeah I'm there

[04:34:25] you're really close there but they're wolf just going ginger now doing this in

[04:34:29] way smoother manner it's actually nice memes and clicks there looks like they

[04:34:34] collided and there's still an orb to be soaked it looks like there's no corpse

[04:34:38] under it so they'll have to pick that up otherwise it will get very nasty

[04:34:42] very quickly. Three of the webs need to be used in order to stop the big chungus from reaching the wall

[04:34:49] and then they get this damage amp here where the boss will take 100% increased damage across their

[04:34:54] sharing HP. Yeah I think before early testing it was a very small amount of time especially on

[04:35:01] the earlier difficulties but it is about 12 seconds now so that is a nice chunky damage window for

[04:35:08] most burst damage very far specs. Yeah, unless it's something silly like the

[04:35:13] Minkumon which lasts forever. Yeah, might need a little bit of setup before.

[04:35:16] Yeah, that's why he's using celestial alignment this time around.

[04:35:19] I don't know if that massive incarnation is not going to get the benefit of it.

[04:35:23] I get some more of them in on the boss when they're weakened but it's looking

[04:35:27] like a huge amount of HP guys but again Blizzard's tuning on these bosses seems

[04:35:31] to be pretty exact for what they think is possible.

[04:35:34] Yeah, we saw that on Nexus Princess Kaiveza.

[04:35:37] That was so, so particularly tuned.

[04:35:41] They just managed to squeeze out the correct damage,

[04:35:45] as this is unfortunately another wipe.

[04:35:47] It could be that they're testing a few things because we don't know.

[04:35:50] No, they've shifted healing cooldowns, I think.

[04:35:52] Yeah, we know that they can get through this,

[04:35:53] but they're definitely changing things up a little bit here.

[04:35:56] Did you like that Wolf Biscoe went to his web spot

[04:35:59] even though his friend wasn't playing with him anymore?

[04:36:01] like he still ran and stood in the exact spot for the charge even though he was

[04:36:05] webless and gingy was gone it was like uh you know like a lost lover going to the bridge

[04:36:10] oh it's kicked off this is where we met we promised we would see each other here again

[04:36:15] one day and now they're gone this is where we promised to meet

[04:36:20] he sent me that fateful day for our love every year in the autumn i return here hoping

[04:36:27] I think I'll see them one more time, but then it dawns on me. Those days are gone.

[04:36:33] They're never coming back.

[04:36:35] And Gingys terrible at this game. And if only we played better, then we could have killed the boss.

[04:36:44] But we didn't, so we'll go again.

[04:36:46] They just suck.

[04:36:47] Hey, Gingys back. Woohoo!

[04:36:49] Thank God for resurrection. There he is. Two lovers, locked eyes.

[04:36:54] directly opposite to them in the room as well so I bet after each one they tilt to the side and go

[04:37:00] mean you brother mean you yeah we got this I mean the positioning is really important right

[04:37:06] oh this yeah this fight is crazy the radar is so huge I think that is definitely an underrated

[04:37:13] let's say plus for a radar being a good reader that consistency go into the same place every pull

[04:37:19] yeah being very consistent in your movement um popping things in the same place every pull

[04:37:24] You're assigned and it's gonna be really really good. So that's why when even though Wolf's partner boys on penguin

[04:37:32] This guy's partner that's gone. He's still new. Okay. I need to go here

[04:37:36] I'm just gonna keep doing that because then it just becomes muscle memory and your brain can focus on what's necessary

[04:37:40] Well, if you know this when we started I thought it was when me and Alex were on

[04:37:44] They were making macros for each other to King where they were gonna be

[04:37:49] Things along those lines so they could help each other

[04:37:51] They stopped doing that so long ago.

[04:37:53] Like they know exactly which webs they're going to sell.

[04:37:55] They know exactly where they're going to be.

[04:37:56] We'll probably see it again in phase two

[04:37:57] once they get a little bit more comfy

[04:38:00] so they can get that same work again.

[04:38:02] But you totally correct, Jay.

[04:38:03] They've learned each other's patterns.

[04:38:05] They know who's, did you drop your orb again?

[04:38:08] I know, because this is your special spot

[04:38:10] where you drop your little orb.

[04:38:11] And then they go and pick it up again.

[04:38:13] Yeah, you kind of know, all right.

[04:38:14] My pot is going to stand in there or around there.

[04:38:16] That's where my orb is going to be.

[04:38:18] But if you have somebody who's just kind of

[04:38:20] running laps or being erratic hunters, then you can't necessarily learn your partner's

[04:38:25] movements very well. Not solo though.

[04:38:28] No. Solo.

[04:38:29] He's approved.

[04:38:31] Can we look at what they're doing to the adds at all, Jesse? Because they've not really

[04:38:36] been a problem since pull one. I was expecting them with this obviously the ads are spawning

[04:38:39] with a huge damage reduction on them that wears off over time. I was expecting them

[04:38:44] to be way more of a problem but they're actually kind of fine.

[04:38:46] It's so funny because we're focusing on melee here and how they are getting the ads down

[04:38:50] and I just see out of the corner of my eye on the right hand side of the screen the range

[04:38:54] just spinning.

[04:38:55] The range down, the melee, full AFK on this boss.

[04:38:59] I'm telling you, your brain is giga afk on this one.

[04:39:02] This is a ranged and healer problem.

[04:39:04] The melee are just going to wait for the health to run out.

[04:39:08] The ads are essentially worms from Brutrister.

[04:39:12] They are Kenix's Starfall's job.

[04:39:14] That's why I love it.

[04:39:15] And Kenix is doing by far the most on them.

[04:39:19] That makes sense.

[04:39:20] Yeah, that makes sense.

[04:39:21] Oh, Mini going down there.

[04:39:22] The Shaman's not funnily.

[04:39:23] I wonder if he clipped somebody.

[04:39:25] Shaman's actually have really insane funnel, especially enhanced, but also Ellie.

[04:39:30] Tanks down again.

[04:39:31] Mira's getting clobbered yet again.

[04:39:34] We are consistently losing the tanks in that intermission.

[04:39:38] To the...

[04:39:39] I see this to the spike.

[04:39:40] Yeah, it's the tank mechanic whereby the boss hits you at the debuff that you take double damage from the next one and they need to swap.

[04:39:47] Yeah.

[04:39:48] That's killing them more often than anything else. I don't know if it's a strategy thing or what's going on with that.

[04:39:52] Yeah, it's a...

[04:39:52] Yes.

[04:39:53] Do we know when the adds are coming in? Are they around when the boss is vulnerable?

[04:40:00] I can check that.

[04:40:02] Because I was just thinking, we do have two Enhanced Shamans here and they have insane funnel.

[04:40:08] I wonder if they will use utilize the ads to get more damage out onto the bus while it's vulnerable

[04:40:14] It could conceivably be the case the ads are out at the same time as a vulnerability because the ads come in with that

[04:40:20] Buff making them take more damage over time. They start with 80% damage reduction that fades away

[04:40:25] So they keep them alive and let the cleave kind of take them down and they are still alive when the first charge occurs

[04:40:33] However, not for the second

[04:40:35] Okay

[04:40:37] Yeah

[04:40:39] None

[04:40:40] Are ultimately non-issue the scarves. I saw them chomping a few butts in the first couple of poles

[04:40:44] But since then they've been kind of just you know milling around we've got a load of CC on them

[04:40:48] Obviously plenty of DK action going on there. Canix finally remembered to speck ursals vortex very useful

[04:40:55] Very helpful for him to do that and obviously with him focusing them down

[04:40:59] And then being in the melee ball. I mean the only rule with those kind of ads is drag them onto the boss

[04:41:03] We are not coming to get them for you. That's not happening. You don't pull them to the boss

[04:41:07] That's on you, which is kind of awkward in a fight where you very restricted on where you can go

[04:41:11] Yeah, that's very true because she's doing so much damage. Was I right in hearing that two daggers dropped on Kyveza?

[04:41:19] I believe two mythic daggers dropped. Yes, and perfecto is

[04:41:26] Not happy

[04:41:28] My goodness. Yeah unless answering needs to rogues that kind of seals his fate

[04:41:32] If you get both of the mythic daggers coming into the fight, I believe that is exactly what Kush got

[04:41:38] Unlock to Mr. Perfecto despite his sprint across the yard here to get into the building as fast as possible once he realized that

[04:41:47] The princess was dead

[04:41:48] It did not work out for him

[04:41:50] But I can I take this because I'm very concerned that the donations coming in for games for love

[04:41:58] Horrible to me, so I'm gonna reword them so you do not have a say

[04:42:02] true but you would have read what they wrote

[04:42:07] thank you to Nick for $10

[04:42:10] Mythic Vase is going to be Holondra showing up with a bunch of bombs PS love

[04:42:14] you guys that would be so good that would be Trudy team crab versus team

[04:42:18] spider I'm just saying that would be outrageously cruel thank you so so

[04:42:22] much five dollars from Aradan I just want to see that pickle getting

[04:42:27] absolutely devoured you got your wish sir but so fantastic donation from me

[04:42:39] for six dollars and ninety cents ignore everything I say on stream I really want

[04:42:44] this juicy hot fat pickle in my mouth

[04:42:57] hello to my children you might be watching at home

[04:43:06] Which they shouldn't be good school jerks 25 dollars from the pickle enjoy

[04:43:12] So this is you I suspect yes, I feel like preach could handle that pickle

[04:43:20] Which you did not so bad

[04:43:29] Oh so bad the $10 cut it from Isabelle

[04:43:33] Oh, you said as a picture did not want her photo to be taken this time. My cat is ready for the rat man

[04:43:39] We're not doing any pictures right now, but we will get to them. We are storing them

[04:43:43] So don't worry about that Isabelle, but during progress

[04:43:45] We are holding back on flashing pictures of because it might start a train and we won't get them to them all and you know

[04:43:50] The mountain people get annoyed but you get the idea

[04:43:51] Yeah, and in case anyone's tuning in they are on a five minute break. I said my life messing missing anything

[04:43:58] No, but we don't have necessary time. Oh

[04:44:01] Oh

[04:44:02] Yeah, I did not lie while we're reading donations for games for love. We are not missing anything

[04:44:07] they want a break. Okay good. Excellent. All right. Donation from my bean supplier, which

[04:44:16] as far as I know is Medic, who brought me a case of beans. Thank you. This is great.

[04:44:20] For a dollar. Butcher, what do you think of AncerX feet? I believe she has no toes,

[04:44:27] so maybe she's not up your alley, but I quite like them. Also, 10 out of 10 pickle gaming.

[04:44:32] I haven't looked because I wouldn't and that's the answer

[04:44:41] You could do the research on that John

[04:44:45] Yeah, you go investigate

[04:44:47] Thrups I said already four games for love. Thank you so much with a bunch of sevens

[04:44:55] Thanks

[04:45:27] Such a jerk, man, just swear to God.

[04:45:29] Bring Sam back.

[04:45:31] $50 from KLM, $50, thank you so much.

[04:45:33] I hope so many children do, you're an absolute legend.

[04:45:36] Don't worry there, I'll take you in a little pee break.

[04:45:38] So we'll be back with them shortly.

[04:45:40] Question, how did the Hero Guild

[04:45:45] end up with two iron level over everything else?

[04:45:47] They did a very clever strategy that seems the echo

[04:45:50] and method and liquid didn't think of, which is that,

[04:45:53] well, to be fair, they would have thought of it,

[04:45:55] typically it shouldn't work is that the BOEs which are BOP in the first couple of weeks of mythic

[04:46:01] we're actually dropping before the first boss it was a while ago blizzard made it so that they would

[04:46:05] only drop after the first boss because of course what causes what happens is people just go in

[04:46:10] and farm the trash reset the instance farm the trash again reset the instance do it over and over

[04:46:14] again and blizzard didn't want that activity but for some reason this time it worked they

[04:46:19] dropped. They farmed a lot of those. They did mythic splits as well, I think. I heard that.

[04:46:26] That's the only thing you can, right? Your ID locks. I don't know, but we do know they did the BoE

[04:46:33] slash BoP farming. They had a team that was farming the trash and then they would cycle in

[04:46:36] raiders and things like that to get their stuff. But yes, obviously here we were like,

[04:46:41] huh, as I'm sure they were across the pond as well, like, what the hell?

[04:46:45] I hope that toilet closure was the caster floor and not related to the hot chip challenge

[04:47:10] munkah. We actually don't know why it's happening but do you know how polite everybody is here,

[04:47:15] Jay? There's a tap. I don't know what they're doing, right? But there's a tap in the little

[04:47:19] kitchen we have up here that they've left the tap running because they're doing something

[04:47:24] with a drainage pipe or something like that. Every single person in this building has

[04:47:28] got up and going to turn the tap off thinking somebody's just left the tap on.

[04:47:31] I did that. Was it not meant to be on? No. No. I mean, was it supposed to

[04:47:36] Yes, I tried to turn it off and then medic stopped me

[04:47:40] Then you obviously went and turned it off and then I came back in and then I turned it off

[04:47:43] And I'm like wait wait wait we need to turn that back on and then somebody else walked in and was like who's that that's happening?

[04:47:47] So everybody keeps trying to turn it off rightfully so

[04:47:50] But we're all being very polite to each other over here in Germany pickle

[04:47:54] Sevens and a few of those sevens

[04:47:58] So they should towards games for love for the kids said Mikey a pickle a day keeps the doctor away

[04:48:04] Except medic was there so now I don't know it was not not gonna lie though it's kind of cute. I

[04:48:10] Haven't seen it

[04:48:12] But I'm sure it was great. I didn't forget part of this

[04:48:26] Fine we'll all be better off. We will all just be just happier people

[04:48:30] people. Webster, thank you so much for the $10. I watched the documentary last night about

[04:48:36] how pickles are made. It was jarring. Ah!

[04:48:39] Okay, I like that one.

[04:48:42] No, do you like puns?

[04:48:43] Yes.

[04:48:44] Do you really like puns?

[04:48:45] Yes.

[04:48:46] What a big boot. Yay!

[04:48:48] They're so bad. They're bad for you.

[04:48:51] I think they get for the soul. I think you need five a day.

[04:48:57] How do I say this? Raymond Acker's man. Stupid name.

[04:49:01] I just said beans, big beans for $35, big beans from Marine, yeah silly name wanna change that.

[04:49:13] The buttery beanie base.

[04:49:15] See this is, at least I get to bet these, preachers dry sandwich, don't know it's a dollar, hi

[04:49:21] guys.

[04:49:22] Hi, what do you, okay.

[04:49:23] With this race looking to go on quite long, do you have any fears of us turning into

[04:49:27] a, oh it's a reasonable question.

[04:49:30] If it's Carl Pritchie's dry sandwich, you can't play with it.

[04:49:34] Why a dry sandwich?

[04:49:35] Why?

[04:49:36] I'm so ready to question you.

[04:49:37] I don't eat butter.

[04:49:38] I don't really either.

[04:49:39] That's the huge...

[04:49:40] Oh, so you're a dry sandwich freak as well, apparently.

[04:49:43] But we put mayo in it.

[04:49:45] Sometimes if I'm in a rush, I don't.

[04:49:46] That's it.

[04:49:47] And I don't care.

[04:49:48] I just want the protein.

[04:49:49] Dried bread and chicken.

[04:49:50] It's banned.

[04:49:51] With this race looking to go quite long, do you have any fears of this turning

[04:49:55] into a sepulchre type race?

[04:49:56] Or do you think these bosses are better designed for that pain to happen again?

[04:49:59] somebody who we talked about this yesterday in the classroom

[04:50:02] uh because i'm i was a bit worried about you and alex and medic and jessie

[04:50:06] because i've i've been lazy and i skipped the first week

[04:50:09] but for you guys you've already been here over two weeks now and you had to cast

[04:50:13] delves uh so i guess this question is for you

[04:50:16] what was the question do you feel it's gonna go into a sepulchre burn

[04:50:20] outside territory um i for me no because i did take it

[04:50:27] um a little bit easier in the first week I made sure that I got lots of rest because I knew that

[04:50:32] we had to get through that and then we had then had the mythic race as well so I've been kind of

[04:50:36] taking it easy um staying in bed an extra hour no I I don't think so I feel like especially with

[04:50:43] how exciting this raid is as well we've had boss five and six be so tightly tuned that they

[04:50:49] feel like real nail biting fights and then having the penultimate fight being highly

[04:50:53] anticipated and then the excitement of the final boss anyway and I feel like you kind of ride that

[04:50:57] energy and we all take lots of rest as well so I don't think so. I think it's going to be similar

[04:51:03] to Sepulchre in length for sure I think it's going to be a what if you include her at week yeah.

[04:51:09] How about you Jesse? How are you feeling? You're two weeks in as well. Personally yeah I'm fine

[04:51:14] this is the most fun time of the year for me. I love the race world first it's very very fun

[04:51:17] how do you think the players are going to cope? Obviously Echo did very well with Sepulchre

[04:51:22] They've coped and obviously Liquid will have redone themselves now.

[04:51:26] They were more prepared for something like this to happen.

[04:51:28] They didn't do too well in Sepulchre.

[04:51:30] But overall, the players seemed very, very happy.

[04:51:33] Don't seem to be intimidated by the potential long race.

[04:51:36] Obviously, the heroic week has just extended things by a week.

[04:51:39] But the grind seems to be kind of over for them now.

[04:51:42] And of course, the Sepulchre tier had extended heroic week as well.

[04:51:45] So something they've done before.

[04:51:46] And this is the this is the reward, right?

[04:51:48] You work for between expansions, almost a year,

[04:51:51] between patches within an expansion of four to five months doing all kinds of obnoxious

[04:51:55] not particularly fun things splits farming grinds in order to prepare for the race world first

[04:51:59] and then this the progression that's the reward that's why you do it it's the fun part so I think

[04:52:03] that they're settled in for the long haul because the longer it goes the more difficult it is the

[04:52:06] more fun it is for them. Yeah and I feel like Echo in particular are really really good at

[04:52:10] pacing themselves as we always say the race is absolutely a marathon not a sprint and they

[04:52:16] always play that sustainability right they make sure that they get plenty of

[04:52:20] rest plenty of sleep and they take those little breaks between pools and they

[04:52:25] do play that very very well so yeah remarkably themselves yeah that was a

[04:52:31] wonderful question thank you very much it's something we are talking about

[04:52:33] internally because we like I said I spot my wife that's all right I'm here

[04:52:40] till this dies like oh thankfully they wipe for us I just want to shout out

[04:52:43] as well. Not just Echo and Liquid on this boss anymore. Method have defeated the Nexus

[04:52:49] Princess and are also keeping right on track to be in the scene also pulling the Silken

[04:52:57] Quartz. So that is good to see. What a healthy race situation we're in. And hopefully we

[04:53:02] can have. I'm going to say Hero Gilks. I'm questioning the trolliness of being Hot

[04:53:07] Pot Hero, although that was seemingly the translation.

[04:53:09] I thought it was hot dog here for a while.

[04:53:12] No, you're thinking of POTTAR hot corn dog mixed with hot pot hero.

[04:53:16] All we need now is cottage pie champions and the kids.

[04:53:22] Fulbright.

[04:53:23] Okay, I'm about to get hard trolled because Mitch has just said,

[04:53:26] guys, we have a datamined secret cutscene.

[04:53:29] Why don't we see this super amazing datamined cutscene spoiler?

[04:53:32] Whoa, what is it?

[04:53:34] I wonder.

[04:53:38] It's almost over.

[04:53:40] What's that Sally Deems?

[04:53:44] Your ambition was rare, you know, yet despite even betraying your own mother, sure you are.

[04:53:55] Oh, not the beans!

[04:53:58] Nothing.

[04:53:59] The fact you didn't put a squidge sound effect in shows incredible restraint.

[04:54:05] An incredible amount of restraint that happened.

[04:54:10] I'm out of the Furby loop. I grew furbies and my kids were not around for furby. So I was

[04:54:22] generation non-furby. I had a furby and it would just at like 3am start talking from

[04:54:28] inside my wardrobe. Oh you mean it actually had like a squeeze

[04:54:33] nice no not that it was a demon it was a demon okay well I don't know it was kind

[04:54:41] of it just used to like have these sound bites and yum yum or something like that

[04:54:48] it was very scary when I was also cute that's messed up it was messed up yeah

[04:54:54] that is pretty messed up but thankfully you know it's not messed up it's okay

[04:54:58] Mages rat friend

[04:55:02] Has okay major heard the tale of Hellfire Citadel this to not let her forget I have not

[04:55:08] Heard the tale of Hellfire Citadel this to I don't know what I think

[04:55:13] Alex finds a way

[04:55:15] Dimension Hellfire Citadel once a day

[04:55:19] But he has let us down this race

[04:55:21] race.

[04:55:22] Alex.

[04:55:23] Random Alex shade coming out of nowhere.

[04:55:26] I liked Hellfire Citadel, but I think there was one race where we compared a lot of the

[04:55:30] bosses to Hellfire Citadel bosses.

[04:55:32] We brought it up a lot.

[04:55:35] Or maybe I'm just missing a particular story, but I know that we would mention it a lot

[04:55:39] and everyone was like, ooh, Hellfire Citadel.

[04:55:40] Well, save that for Alex.

[04:55:42] When Alex gets to us, we'll bring that back to him.

[04:55:46] He's not back till tomorrow.

[04:55:47] Alex was a morning crew and he did get to see the Nexus Princess go down.

[04:55:51] So that's 5 dollars, every time Robo Jordan starts yelling, 7s, my dog goes crazy, I'm

[04:56:19] I'm sorry, Jordan, but he hates you.

[04:56:22] So does everyone.

[04:56:23] You're hated by a dog.

[04:56:25] And dogs are all those loving creatures in the world.

[04:56:28] That's rough.

[04:56:31] I've peaked.

[04:56:33] Peaked by being hated by a dog.

[04:56:36] I'll come to the rest of those shortly, guys.

[04:56:37] Truly appreciate everything you're doing

[04:56:40] to help out those kids.

[04:56:41] And I'm making sure, remember, the money doesn't even

[04:56:43] come to us.

[04:56:44] It goes straight to them.

[04:56:45] We're just doing our best to support worthy cars

[04:56:47] alongside having good fun and bringing you as much of this action as we possibly can. They're back Jay, they've given it.

[04:56:53] Yeah, getting straight back in here as they have their nice little circling around the boss and we have our little buddy groups, our little friendship groups over here that will be tethered together needing to stretch the tether across the charge but not move too far away so it doesn't snap.

[04:57:11] nice big circle animation it gives you so you don't snap it accidentally like

[04:57:15] once you put it out early the animation stuff they've done really well to give

[04:57:18] good graphical indication I know some I know actually that one's so big that

[04:57:24] when we did it on even on normal I think people are asking how do I know if I'm

[04:57:27] gonna step it it's like it's the literally the giant circle that is

[04:57:31] your snap radius yeah because usually you wouldn't have a visual like that

[04:57:34] you'd need a week or two or show how many people are around you you'd

[04:57:39] set it to what five yards or however far the distance is. You wouldn't be able to tell just

[04:57:46] by looking you'd have to get a feel for it or like I said use a weak aura but it's nice

[04:57:50] that they've got a visual in the game, in the base game to indicate whether you are

[04:57:55] going to die by walking near somebody, by putting somebody in your circle. So I'm

[04:58:00] all about these enhanced visual clarity animations and little bits that they're putting in.

[04:58:07] I think it's really excellent, especially like the blaze lines on frack for example

[04:58:11] Yeah, what a damage. What was that? Oh, they collided of course

[04:58:14] It now makes a lot of sense as to what Jesse was saying earlier

[04:58:18] That we initially we thought they were immuneing to stop spawning the ops

[04:58:21] But the double whammying it because

[04:58:23] Immuning then not only stops them spawning an orb from that toxic rain, but stops those players from getting the double stack

[04:58:29] So they're reducing the rate damage probably by almost like did you say it's like 50% Jesse?

[04:58:35] So like half the raid is immuneing at that point about about a quarter of the raid

[04:58:38] So it's significant reduction and they become significantly safer because with the double stack you're taking about a million damage per

[04:58:45] Two seconds the single stack of course is about half that yeah, so it's a nice benefit

[04:58:51] especially as you go into the admission to not have as many of

[04:58:54] the stacks and soaking the orbs in the admission you get way more stacks and soaking the orb and that damage becomes overwhelming

[04:59:00] Yeah, it's a really good move

[04:59:01] They got double benefit from it and you can see I think it was actually what killed rice in there

[04:59:05] Is you got the double stack and was quickly just ticking to death while trying to keep up everybody else who can't immune those stacks?

[04:59:12] Making it very nasty. It's also kind of nice to see immune come into it

[04:59:16] But not in terms of this is a little bit cheesy, but it's kind of used in the fight

[04:59:22] Yeah, it's not solving a mechanic by just choosing it by immuneing

[04:59:27] It's kind of helpful and I feel like sometimes it's good to utilize

[04:59:32] Immune's like that within a fight

[04:59:34] With mages taking it having a choice now

[04:59:36] You have their usual ice block where they can take a talent that turns their ice block into a 70% damage reduction

[04:59:43] And you can you're not you're no longer in an immunity. You're no longer stuck inside an ice block

[04:59:48] It's no longer an immune and you get the 70% damage reduction you can run around

[04:59:52] So that would have been super helpful in fights like hi-feather

[04:59:55] And then opting for the ice block on this fight so they can mitigate a lot of that damage

[05:00:00] I think that's the clever way to bring immune into it

[05:00:02] So they become utility they become helpful and they're not just completely nullifying a mechanic. Yeah, and certainly not

[05:00:09] Making them forced to use somewhere else, which is like the least creative way of doing it

[05:00:14] So you think about something like helio where you just had to happen

[05:00:16] They was like, okay, we're gonna slam this tentacle on the floor. It needs one person to stand in it

[05:00:20] What what should we do?

[05:00:22] Which essentially just made it so that anybody with immunity had to just go and run and stand somewhere for like a second

[05:00:29] And then come back just finding ways of like well

[05:00:32] We don't want to using immunities in a in a cheesy way. So we're just gonna force you to use them over here instead

[05:00:37] Yeah, I feel like it was off to tumor sargeras because in tumor sargeras, which was the tomb of so garras

[05:00:42] I said, yeah to tumor so garras. It was the third raid of Legion

[05:00:46] And there were so many mechanics throughout that raid that were just completely cheesed by immunities

[05:00:54] Yep, it was just completely solved so many mechanics

[05:00:58] Well, we're probably it was rubbish for the people like that was a major time. It was awful. It was every fire

[05:01:03] And I was just like sitting in my eyes block

[05:01:06] Waiting to fight game

[05:01:09] Sitting in my eyes block

[05:01:12] Waiting to talk the thing and you just sit there

[05:01:14] Yeah, doing no damage. Just going stand there and ice block. I think it was from the first boss onwards

[05:01:21] It was near enough every single boss had something that had you just sitting in your ice block sitting in turtle

[05:01:26] Just doing something and including Kil'Jane and it was particularly bad for it

[05:01:30] Just had you just doing nothing for so long of the fight real miserable experience

[05:01:35] I'm definitely felt like a left-hand right-hand not knowing what the other boss designers were doing and everybody came up with

[05:01:41] soak mechanic at the same time they're like oh well we've got lots of them there's

[05:01:46] the guys choosing which color they want red gang blue gang and if you don't get a

[05:01:51] color you are instantly killed and you can no longer be raised either get wrecked

[05:01:55] it's kind of that's kind of the plan is that you didn't choose a color well

[05:01:59] tough and now you get these these wonderful little Orbeez on the floor

[05:02:04] and you need the opposite color to soak them for you and you can only soak

[05:02:08] 2, if he's up 3, you get marked for death.

[05:02:10] It's so cute seeing them rotate every time.

[05:02:13] I'm like, oh, their little buddy system,

[05:02:16] going around this little circle,

[05:02:18] making sure that they are stretching their tether,

[05:02:20] because on Mythic, you will need three of these

[05:02:22] to stop the charge, two on Heroic One on Normal,

[05:02:25] and the boss is now taking extra damage,

[05:02:27] and because the boss is Share Health,

[05:02:29] this is going to be extremely helpful throughout the fight.

[05:02:32] Yeah, and if I made it a little odd,

[05:02:34] I don't know what you think about it, Cessie,

[05:02:35] is that if you pick up the Orbs,

[05:02:36] you pick up 3, you get marked for death.

[05:02:38] However, if it goes off, your stack will go to 4, 5, 6 and 7.

[05:02:42] It's a weird interaction.

[05:02:44] Yeah, I think that the thought is that it'll just get out of control and you can't heal through it

[05:02:48] instead of ensuring that you don't use super sturdy classes to soak everything which would trivialize the intermission.

[05:02:56] I'm glad it's not a bit like Kaivesa there, where it's like if it's 3 it's just game over.

[05:03:00] Like, you know, this instance like that. They've got a couple of variations on it.

[05:03:03] So, you might see that some people are stacking past 3.

[05:03:08] Not getting marked for death. That's because it's being applied by bombs going off and that's applying to everybody in the raid

[05:03:13] Giving them all vulnerability and things like that. It's the three little boots on the floor

[05:03:17] You do not want to be picking up that would be bad that would end your life right quick. Yeah

[05:03:22] I'm she's so he's so zoomy for a chungus. He's he's got some legs on him. He's pretty good quick

[05:03:27] Yeah, he is as they get this damage vulnerability looking pretty clean so far come out res is available for them as well

[05:03:34] So we should be going into intermission and then we'll be able to see if they figured this out smoother this wonderful

[05:03:40] Synchronized swim the guys are doing as they're getting into positions

[05:03:44] They do have a few outlet range and then the rest in melee and moving

[05:03:50] Clockwise around the boss because they will be dropping the orbs and the opposite group needs to soak

[05:03:54] And they need to touch the spiders the spider webs going out across the room

[05:03:58] That was a very quick adjust by the entire raid team there

[05:04:01] You've got a not out of position, but they needed to get to the other side in order to make sure the salt could be done in time

[05:04:06] Because the orbs will time out, but you can see what they're doing

[05:04:10] So melee has red gang blue gang and every time you get hit by the pulsing wave

[05:04:15] As the intermission has come out now you everybody in the group are the whole raid will drop an orb

[05:04:19] So they then cycle around the rate. We actually got the smoothest. We did the replay of that

[05:04:23] That's the best we've seen that is the cleanest we have seen that I bet it looks beautiful on replay

[05:04:27] Yep, they got through the intermission much quicker as well

[05:04:30] I wouldn't be surprised if they are assigning cooldowns to shred that shield as fast as possible

[05:04:35] Yeah, let's see how they cope now because this is this is the best we've seen them go into this

[05:04:40] So they all get dragged in as you can see but they're also gonna drop

[05:04:45] Quite so now they've got to pick them up

[05:04:47] You see there's give me a look with a blue gang and a red gang you can soak two of these

[05:04:51] So even though that was a nightmare, but they did do the stinging swarm

[05:04:54] Yeah, they did.

[05:04:56] No, they didn't. They're still under the ones to go off. They're still casting.

[05:04:58] They're about to die to us. Yeah, there's big booms going.

[05:05:00] Yeah, the big boom is the cast that they need to interrupt with the dispels.

[05:05:04] Once they get all five dispels onto the boss, it will prevent the cast from going off.

[05:05:08] But that was the best intermission they've ever had.

[05:05:10] Yeah, that was fantastic. That was super good.

[05:05:13] So we all went a bit wrong on the dragon.

[05:05:15] So on the dragon, we're going to have this weird moment, right,

[05:05:18] where the two teams get dragged close, but not right in the centre like we have in Heroic.

[05:05:22] Then they have to run out but they're all web together and then they have to circle around the boss to pick up the

[05:05:26] OBS that got left behind by the other team and snap their webs heavy damage on the raid

[05:05:31] Yep

[05:05:32] We got a replay. Let's have a look see

[05:05:38] One sick replay

[05:05:43] Yeah, so round around we went on this intermission there's were just so quickly here

[05:05:47] Because as soon as they dropped the safe spot was actually going to be on the other side

[05:05:50] So they had to run super far and then step back to allow that to go off because it's going to be the last explosion that was going out on the scene

[05:05:58] Yeah, popping lust in the intermission here. That's why they got through so quickly. So that's a new change

[05:06:05] I think I did I did think the intermission got absolutely annihilated. Yeah temporary change

[05:06:11] They want to have a bit more p2 experience. Yeah, I think that is still a progress list

[05:06:15] I don't know if they're necessarily going to use it there

[05:06:18] but it helps at this point when they want to just get through it as quickly and cleanly as possible

[05:06:23] to start practicing the later phases as well. Yeah, last phase you think? For the lust, you know,

[05:06:28] when they've both got their mechanics up? Yeah, it could be some of the vulnerable phases in the

[05:06:33] last phase. If they're running a lot of the spy, the web... Oh, what's the spy master's? Yeah,

[05:06:40] it's not spy master's, is it spy master's web? For the casters, it's a spy master's web.

[05:06:45] Yeah, that's a big buff at the end.

[05:06:47] Yeah, and then that comes in at about four minutes, so they could be poppin' lost at that point. Phase three, four minutes in, perhaps.

[05:06:54] Go big, go home during the hardest part of the fight. That sounds like probably the play that we got there.

[05:06:59] Because the boss transitions based on timer and not HP, really they can send the lost at any point because damage throughout the fight is going to be useful.

[05:07:09] It's not like if they pop lust at the start it's going to be a waste because the boss will transition out at a certain health percentage

[05:07:15] So they kind of want to transition it at a certain point. I can't imagine they'd decide it for

[05:07:20] Barry's and could pop it on Paul

[05:07:23] Any damage they do at the start is going to help them at the end. Yeah, so they're also the damage amp

[05:07:28] Spots in the fight. Yeah, a little shot

[05:07:29] I maybe for lusts I think I'm fine some nice crossover that meets both of them because they will have those damage

[05:07:34] I'm so last phase as well. I do want to give a shout out though

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[05:08:26] are figuring out the next hardest nightmare boss we've ever seen but with

[05:08:30] learning about that boss is from our teacher. What have you got? What have you got, Prof?

[05:08:34] Just another POV of what Mitch already showed you. They showed you the live

[05:08:38] in-game replay. It also looks good with the work-off logs feature. The bird's eye

[05:08:42] overview as I'm going to the mission. You can see they really cleaned up

[05:08:45] their movement here and really cleaned up their partners. They have those

[05:08:48] eight people out in the corners that had previously been doing the threads, and then the two melee

[05:08:53] camps rotating around. This gives you the view of exactly what's going on. It looks like an actual

[05:08:56] solar system that everyone rotates. Yes, it's beautiful. They are beautifully aligning. And

[05:09:04] you can see they have each quadrant has two ranged swapping, and then the around we go in the

[05:09:09] middle. Around we go. Just keep spinning, just keep spinning. Successfully allocating them all

[05:09:14] out they get three rounds of orbs in that very very short space and have to get

[05:09:18] them all soaked without anyone going to three stacks but there at the end they

[05:09:23] got it done with everybody alive. Very nice. Looks so elegant on the replay

[05:09:28] feature there from Warcraft Log. It's one of the rare fights in WoW where things

[05:09:31] do look elegant and choreographed on the logs instead of a random helter

[05:09:36] skelter running around terrible chaos you actually have a lot of stacking and

[05:09:41] rotating around it's very like a maiden of virtue yeah very similar to maiden yeah

[05:09:45] that's the kind of vibe I'm getting so I guess yeah we have right yeah it is I'm

[05:09:50] trying to figure out the bosses that really led to that sort of symmetrical

[05:09:55] precision movement it's very few that have actually utilized that in some way

[05:09:59] that haven't you know in that kind of style where you can watch the replay

[05:10:02] and you're like oh my god that's that's very nice oh my god how the hell did

[05:10:10] I knock clock that they would call it Coggers.

[05:10:12] And now it's Coggers.

[05:10:14] Okay, let's go to the bathroom.

[05:10:16] They've had a break between us and they can cog away.

[05:10:19] What do you think?

[05:10:20] Yeah.

[05:10:21] Alright, let's listen in with Wave.

[05:10:23] See you in a bit.

[05:23:11] Phase 3, they broke the shield with like 5 of them alive.

[05:23:14] Yeah, we saw the second intermission where you have the like gravelly earthy rings going across the platform

[05:23:20] and they broke through it successfully would not many of them alive. This is great by echo they have right in their element right now

[05:23:31] This might be the switch that we often see in the race

[05:23:35] Where they turn it up a little bit. They've managed to get everything sort of coordinate. Obviously that was scrappy as hell

[05:23:41] I'm kind of concerned after seeing that. I know a lot of people are dead of how long they have to play this fight in phase three

[05:23:47] When they get there it might be something like five minutes. Yeah, because they would pick so it's a 10 minute and very time up

[05:23:53] Mm-hmm and they got there at six minutes and that was with most of the raid dead

[05:23:59] So I imagine a large portion of this fight is gonna be spent in phase three

[05:24:05] Yeah, really looks like we're gonna be about I would say about six percent of fight even though

[05:24:09] It's the last phase and you feel like you've gone through the motions

[05:24:11] I think most of it's gonna be there. I think so too. It looks that way

[05:24:15] It looks like they're gonna have to this is realistically like just training you for phase three

[05:24:20] Whereas a normal in heroic you blast them in phase one and two so you have a tiny phase three

[05:24:25] You like barely even in phase three for more than a minute. So in mythic. It looks like it's like, okay

[05:24:30] That's phase one. That's really easy phase two. That's easy too now phase three because obviously yeah based on the time

[05:24:36] They got there like John said but a lot of them are dead

[05:24:38] So that shield was up for a really long time in reality

[05:24:41] That shield will be gone very very quickly once they've got everybody confident and happy there

[05:24:45] And they'll just be in phase three where they're gonna have to deal with both of Chungus charge

[05:24:50] And of course the stinging swarm coming from spider lady all happening simultaneously

[05:24:55] So I think that's probably what we're in for guys is them having to get used and normalize the chaos something we always say

[05:25:01] Yeah, as they you know this fight kind of eases you into it in phase one

[05:25:05] You have to stop the charge see you find your movement

[05:25:07] You stretch the tethers and you get used to that in phase two

[05:25:10] You have the dispells where you have each player with the dispelle needs to be standing next to the boss

[05:25:15] when they're dispelled it goes into close targets so make sure they get all of those in to interrupt

[05:25:18] the cast and then the final phase you'll have both to deal with along with all of these orbs

[05:25:23] soaking the orbs making sure you're not colliding with the opposite colour it's a very hectic but

[05:25:30] I don't know I I feel quite optimistic about this fight it's not it's this is not maybe I'm

[05:25:38] reducing my thoughts on pulls a little bit depending on how this phase three plays out purely

[05:25:43] because it's a mechanics check, you know, there's, I mean there's a few things going on like Jesse pointed out that are actually

[05:25:49] horrendously bad going on that are kind of passing, I mean one of them is happening right now, this poison

[05:25:53] that is dropping from the sky, which many of you who've done Normal and Heroic will know is just like something that we spread out for

[05:25:59] and the healer's just kind of tossing heals and refined, is taking for millions of damage on the raid.

[05:26:03] It's actually so much damage that they're having the raid immune

[05:26:06] getting the second stack, so the way it works is the first poison

[05:26:09] It's just showers and then the debuff runs out until the next one

[05:26:13] But the second and third poisons come so close to each other that they cause you to gain two stacks of the poison taking

[05:26:19] For over a million on every single player who has the two stacks every couple of seconds

[05:26:24] So the healers once again working their balls off. It's not as bad as the Nexus princess yet

[05:26:30] But it is a ton of work, but the guys are getting more and more comfy actually very solid

[05:26:35] Very reasonable and consistent progress from Echo today. You can see this partnership

[05:26:41] They've got going on with their friends there. You can see hopeful and Zeruo have formed themselves a little team

[05:26:47] Yeah, it's the Warlock of Mage Gang

[05:26:49] Right, we've got Wolf Disco and Jinji and we've got Zeruo and hopeful who have formed this little range gang

[05:26:55] And they dropped their orbs from the damage phases here

[05:26:57] Obviously their goal here is to break the shield as quickly as possible because what happens is it's pulsing damage

[05:27:02] Horsing damage means more orbs, which means they have to go around the process again and the damage gets heavier and heavier

[05:27:08] As Jesse showed us earlier this damage in the final waves of here

[05:27:11] And this is what's killing Zazi and Thana right here unless they have a little touchy touch of each other

[05:27:16] It's just incredible absolutely phenomenal damage that's going out into the raid

[05:27:21] But they have gone through again

[05:27:22] Kuscha, cheap death did proc and then he was dead through it might have had to take three

[05:27:26] We actually saw that on that wipe there is he soaked three to save the raid. Yeah

[05:27:30] I think you may see those hero plays being made because you know, it's better that one player takes the three of them the entire raid

[05:27:38] Which is what happens when the all business soaked so you may see a couple of the players taking extra orbs

[05:27:44] There is so much damage going out as well

[05:27:47] It's the webs like you don't really it's something you just don't think about in the other versions of this fire

[05:27:52] Especially because you can break the webs really quickly in the space of like a raid CD, right?

[05:27:57] You can pop this raid CD, you can pop your AM, you can do something like that, and you can break these webs really quick.

[05:28:01] Because all you have to do in normal and heroic is just run away from your partner.

[05:28:04] That's it! It doesn't ask anything else of you.

[05:28:07] Can't really do that here because not only do you need to get away from the boss in a very specific direction,

[05:28:11] and a lot of people get discombobulated when they get dragged in.

[05:28:14] And you're like, where am I? Where do I go?

[05:28:17] And then they have to perfectly rotate around.

[05:28:20] Again, we're showing you tons of replays of just how wonderful the animation is of the raid

[05:28:25] of the raid and how they're carrying out this fight. You can see it because like all

[05:28:28] their red odds there and the blues are over there so they have to rotate around on these

[05:28:32] dragons with the webs ticking and then snap them at the same time. You can't just have

[05:28:37] the raid scatter. Can't happen. Run. Yeah you can't just run like get away that doesn't

[05:28:42] work here. You have to go to a very precise and controlled organized synchronized manner.

[05:28:47] This is another fight where they'll have to map out every second every position

[05:28:52] where they're going, how they're moving, which you've seen phase one and the

[05:28:55] intuition is really clean now. We asked them losing people, it's still very

[05:28:58] difficult to play, but in terms of the strategy and where they're positioning

[05:29:02] themselves and how they're dealing with the charge, they're relatively, looks like

[05:29:06] they're relatively sold though. It's really clean. It's another one of those fights

[05:29:09] where it's just a dance once they've kind of got the places they're

[05:29:12] going to go. For example, with the portals on Chavezza, it looks really

[05:29:16] clean once they had all of that down and it's a similar thing with this

[05:29:21] one as well. Yeah, there's some

[05:29:22] out of it. Advances here, I think

[05:29:23] now we're getting a full grasp of

[05:29:25] it is there's less individual

[05:29:27] responsibility here than we saw

[05:29:29] with Kai Bezza. Yeah, that was

[05:29:31] unbelievably punishing. Yeah.

[05:29:32] And it was, you know, the

[05:29:33] blaze lines, they guess you're

[05:29:35] working together, but it was all

[05:29:36] in the individuals to be like,

[05:29:37] okay, I need to look after you.

[05:29:38] I need to look after myself.

[05:29:39] I need to do this. And that

[05:29:40] was on everybody here. You

[05:29:41] can assign things out. So

[05:29:44] you like we've seen, you know,

[05:29:45] you've got these pairings going

[05:29:46] on like range gang, they're

[05:29:48] dealing with the webs. That's

[05:29:50] then the rest of the like the melee for example we've said a few times just kind of full brain afk at

[05:29:54] the moment because there's not much for them to do other than dps need to spin you need to spin you

[05:29:58] need to just rotate around at the right time and pick up your ops not saying that you know it's

[05:30:02] stupidly easy but in terms of pressure per player a little bit less on this one than we saw on

[05:30:08] kaivesa which was like everybody needed to know if you got the portal you were going here

[05:30:11] and that but you're going too over uh awesome you know and then we have the evokas being

[05:30:16] assigned to be the individual banana trip that they all had to go on. Not quite here. This is more of a

[05:30:22] controlled, predictable environment for them to be in. Yeah, it's not so fragile. I feel like

[05:30:27] Cavesa was an absolutely fragile fight where it could fall to pieces any second if any of the

[05:30:32] mechanics really caused in a way. They couldn't afford to lose one player because they had the

[05:30:37] one tank, they had all of the combat dresses assigned, for example. Whereas, yeah, this fight,

[05:30:42] it is more about how they're

[05:30:44] moving around the room, which

[05:30:45] is going to be very consistent.

[05:30:48] We'll see how they get on in

[05:30:50] phase three because the issue

[05:30:51] with Favezza is that in the

[05:30:52] submission, you couldn't

[05:30:53] exactly predict how to play.

[05:30:55] It was random every time.

[05:30:56] It was random when you got

[05:30:58] blaze.

[05:30:59] The blaze directions was

[05:31:01] random as well.

[05:31:02] It could go in a completely

[05:31:03] vertical line, horizontal line,

[05:31:04] diagonal line, and it can

[05:31:06] offset you when those

[05:31:07] shadowy pizza slices being

[05:31:09] rotated around the room.

[05:31:10] You know, if you've got

[05:31:11] got somebody whose line matches up perfectly with the kind of the direction of the pizza

[05:31:16] slice. If they don't move far enough to give you space, you can get clipped by either. Yeah,

[05:31:20] it was just chaos.

[05:31:22] Yeah, one of the things, you remember Wolf Disco came and talked to us and he was chit-chatting

[05:31:25] about the fight and he said, one thing I don't think most people have picked up

[05:31:29] on that happened with Echo is that the blaze lines directions was a very big deal

[05:31:35] because they had to come up with rules. Like if you had a vertical one, then you

[05:31:39] stood still and the person adjusted around you but if you got the diagonal one then that person

[05:31:43] would adjust and the other person could stay still. All these kind of things were rules that were

[05:31:47] in place. That worked consistently every pull for 40 pulls until 41 when for five pulls in a row

[05:31:58] that system didn't work. So they worked 40 pulls doing a system which worked consistently over

[05:32:04] over and over again and so pull 41 when it was revealed like this actually doesn't work in this in

[05:32:10] these scenarios that actually started happening more regularly just these rng it totally fell apart

[05:32:15] they had to relearn a new system because the one they've been learning and doing over and over again

[05:32:19] suddenly became apparent it's like oh we just got really lucky yeah it just hadn't come up

[05:32:25] which is just insane like when you think about it yeah it just so happened that it worked that

[05:32:28] four times but wasn't consistent enough it just kind of coin flipped the right way every

[05:32:32] single time, which could happen, right? Yeah, it could totally happen. It's often

[05:32:35] comes down to some progress balls you guys know that had in your rates where

[05:32:38] you're like, everything went smoothly and then swimmingly and then seemingly you

[05:32:41] regress. And it turns out that certain players just never had to deal with a

[05:32:44] certain mechanic and they'd never had practice with it. It's not that they

[05:32:47] were bad. They were just like, I've literally not had it since we started

[05:32:50] doing progress. And now I seemingly get it all the time and you kind of

[05:32:53] regress because the people who have done it all those other times are

[05:32:56] vastly experienced in how to deal with it and how to make it work.

[05:33:00] And that was an issue that Echol had run into on Nexus Princess, so hopefully that won't happen.

[05:33:06] Yeah, I feel like sometimes with the intricacies you kind of need to play each

[05:33:10] role. You need to deal with every single type of line to know exactly how you're going to move.

[05:33:15] And unless you do that, when you get it for the first time, it can be really,

[05:33:17] it can really offset you. And if they, you know, for 40 pulls you don't get the horizontal line

[05:33:23] or the vertical line and you don't necessarily know how you're moving in the little traffic jam

[05:33:26] that there is. You don't have the practice and you kind of not necessarily panic but like oh what am I

[05:33:31] doing with this again? I feel like you need to see every single way every single roll once at least

[05:33:37] which is just again the coin flip of whether you get it going in that direction every time.

[05:33:41] Yeah it could take a super long time to get there but so far very steady very consistent very

[05:33:46] on point progress for Echo. I have a couple of concerns. One is how long we're going to be

[05:33:51] in phase three and just how coordinated that's going to be with both Chungus doing the charge

[05:33:55] and the spells going on to Spider Lady for an extended period of time. There's a lot of risk there,

[05:34:00] especially if the poison is coming down. Huge amount of pressure, but it could also flip reverse

[05:34:05] so that they're in there so often that that becomes normal. It's how you deal with it. And in

[05:34:09] fact, in turn, kind of makes phase one and two easier because you're minus on mechanic. So it's like,

[05:34:14] this actually feels like complete like kids play now compared to when we started working here,

[05:34:18] you know, I am worried this fight is going to go in that direction where they're going to

[05:34:23] kind of solve it. They have their positioning set, they move the same way every single time.

[05:34:27] I'm a little bit worried about that. I think this could die before the reset. And we were talking

[05:34:33] with Jessie that maybe it's not worth the time, right? Because they can go to reset, they can get

[05:34:37] one of the extra gear and come back and kill the boss much quicker, much, and then, you know,

[05:34:44] fill out all of their weekly chores. But if they do manage to get it down before the reset,

[05:34:48] That's two resets worth of the penultimate boss's loot, including one of the best trinkets for a lot of the casters and a lot of the specs in general.

[05:34:57] If they can kill it, they're killing it. If they feel like they can kill it, they not only have all of today remaining, and it's still pretty early here, they have several hours of raiding left, and they have all of tomorrow as well, should they use to use it.

[05:35:09] We do know they've done a lot of the Mythic Plus during Kai Vezer because they knew it was going to be such a gear check, but I don't think most of them were 10s.

[05:35:16] We know some of the players have been doing their tens. They will want to have complete

[05:35:21] Best choices in their vaults. It's very important that they have that flexibility as

[05:35:28] You didn't bother to get a color there

[05:35:32] You got to get a color guys otherwise the boss just eradicates

[05:35:39] Ooh, I'm a melee boy, so I am team jungus

[05:35:42] I am on board with that, spider lady can do whatever she wants, I don't care.

[05:35:49] I want that melee damage.

[05:35:52] You can see Giggling, look at the melee.

[05:35:53] The melee at a serious risk of going full brain dead.

[05:35:57] I don't get it dude.

[05:35:59] We're always in melee so we always get chosen regardless.

[05:36:02] It's impossible for us to not get chosen.

[05:36:05] And then we just go left.

[05:36:06] That's it.

[05:36:07] Just move, just move, just move.

[05:36:09] The melee will have some stricter tasks later on.

[05:36:11] especially with the web breaks coming,

[05:36:12] but for the first couple of phases,

[05:36:14] they can kind of chill and get things done.

[05:36:16] No issue, unsurprisingly for Mecha

[05:36:17] with the dispel process in phase two,

[05:36:19] that's really not gonna be a challenge

[05:36:21] for a guild like this,

[05:36:22] who's dealt with some very complex dispel mechanics

[05:36:24] in the past, so just spelling onto the boss

[05:36:26] is not going to be a problem

[05:36:27] with a coordinated team like this.

[05:36:29] But phase three, when it all mixes together,

[05:36:31] because I guarantee you,

[05:36:33] there is the worst overlap in existence

[05:36:35] waiting for the new phase.

[05:36:36] Yeah, absolutely, because they will,

[05:36:38] everybody will be getting the webs, right?

[05:36:40] everybody's going to get dragged into, uh,

[05:36:43] finally. And you're also going to have to stop the charge.

[05:36:47] And you're also going to have to get the dispels off, dodging the front tools.

[05:36:50] You also have the earthen rings that go across the room as well in the last

[05:36:54] phase. It's called doughnuts. Come on. Let's do it. All right.

[05:36:57] You know what you want to do.

[05:36:59] They are FF 14 doughnuts. This is the most FF 14 inspired fight I've seen

[05:37:02] in this raid so far.

[05:37:03] There is a lot of mechanics here that are inspired is what we'll say by

[05:37:08] some FF4 team fights, which is fine because why not? They're good. The only thing that's

[05:37:15] missing here is the room isn't particularly... Oh, it is a little bit for the quadrants of

[05:37:21] the intermission, I suppose. The room design, yeah.

[05:37:25] Hi, Fezzi, you saw a lot of that.

[05:37:27] Definitely made big use of that, which was really nice to see. There's one not so much.

[05:37:31] Yeah, because usually you don't necessarily think about the boss room too much. The only

[05:37:34] time I ever think about a boss room is if there's a pebble that's preventing

[05:37:37] me from blinking or making me blink on the spot. That's the only time I care about it.

[05:37:42] That is hilarious. There's nothing worse than a bad blink and you're like dude.

[05:37:45] It's just like the smallest pebble that I blinked on top of. If I didn't go anywhere.

[05:37:50] It's horrendous. Any time the Z-axis has been put into use I'm like you son of a...

[05:37:55] You know talking about the Z-axis, there's still an issue I think. I don't know if

[05:38:03] it's changed recently but when I checked the other day there's still the issue

[05:38:06] in the necropolis at the top of necrotic weight, where ground effects have an issue with hitting

[05:38:11] because of the z axis. I remember in Shadowlands I had a legendary, which was glacial fragments

[05:38:19] I think, where I'd just press unbuffed isolance and it would splinter onto the entire pack

[05:38:25] so I just used to spam isolance to do loads of damage, but it didn't register up there

[05:38:31] I'm blizzard would have issue sometimes. I think shamans may notice it

[05:38:36] Maybe from the healing rain. Oh, maybe yeah, and ground effects that are a bit

[05:38:42] There are a couple of them pluses with little stairs that I can sort of could fall like it's insanely frustrating

[05:38:48] Yeah, the little stuff that tiny as well. They're just baby steps

[05:38:54] And it prevents damage as well it kind of prevents the ground effects

[05:38:59] Did you know about this?

[05:39:01] Okay, you are so guilty, it is unbelievable. Eat the hot chip.

[05:39:04] Eat the hot chip.

[05:39:08] Why? What have you found?

[05:39:10] Somebody has put a label on my seat that says PPPooPoo.

[05:39:13] Who would do that?

[05:39:18] Who made this?

[05:39:20] Medic.

[05:39:21] Stop blaming Medic for everything. He's guilty of most things.

[05:39:25] He was Medic!

[05:39:26] He's guilty of a lot of things, but PPPooPoo?

[05:39:29] Did you bring these with you?

[05:39:31] Did you literally ship to Germany little sticky labels that say

[05:39:35] PPPooPoo. Yeah they're everywhere. It's like a treasure hunt. Checking my butt now. That's

[05:39:41] not me, I haven't sat there, I don't know what that is. You are guilty, there's now chocolate

[05:39:45] wrappers on this. I feel like every time we go for a pee or something somebody runs in here and just

[05:39:49] trashes the place as fast as humanly possible. I'm going to catch him. What do you think

[05:39:54] dudes? I think she should have to be a hot chip for being guilty of PPPooPoo. No, I'm not guilty

[05:39:59] of PPV. Yeah, um, write me out, Mitch. And now you've got Monopoly. I don't, I don't get you guys.

[05:40:09] Well, I have an Amazon. I'm happy. Yes, you do have an Amazon. You do. What we want to see now is,

[05:40:16] of course, as they're getting to phase three clean, if they could do that. Well, I guess more

[05:40:20] realistically, is a nice phase two intermission would be what we want to see. The, the

[05:40:24] intermissions are really rough. We can get that'll be their next goal. Bloodlust, they

[05:40:28] are sending whenever they feel like it right now they've been using it to break shields

[05:40:32] they've been using it to other things are gingy and zoe all gone down that's half of

[05:40:35] each team i don't like it and they don't see what the big deal is stupid range people

[05:40:50] can't do simple job like carry webs is nothing worse the worst thing in history about your

[05:40:55] guilty of this is when the melee who have nothing to do on a fight and the range to do

[05:41:01] in all the work says I'm like do you want me to do it? Like they look down on the range

[05:41:05] you've got some awkward tasks and then they're failing every now and again we just go.

[05:41:10] How hard is it? Do you want me to do it for you? Do you need me to come and do your

[05:41:16] mechanics for you? Because you clearly struggle with it.

[05:41:20] Yeah, you know, it was sometimes with the seeds on Xymox in Castle in Athrea.

[05:41:26] I had the blue seed, which was the one that was really difficult for the back of the brain.

[05:41:32] You're a mage!

[05:41:33] Yeah, but it was still stressful.

[05:41:35] What?

[05:41:36] Blink, Alter Time, back?

[05:41:37] Yeah, because none of those are DPS buttons.

[05:41:39] I'd say there's a hunter.

[05:41:41] I had to slam my face into the wall against the dragon miles away while having the

[05:41:46] dot that kills you in like three hits.

[05:41:47] And a ghost that's trying to fixate you as well.

[05:41:49] You've never been healed by Crusher. He doesn't care about you at all.

[05:41:53] He says he's a healer. I've never seen him target anybody else for chain heal.

[05:41:56] Just himself. Just stand still, chain heal himself like a turret.

[05:42:00] And it calls himself a healer.

[05:42:01] Standing in everything so that he has something to heal.

[05:42:03] Yeah, exactly. Just stands there, spamming chain heal on himself, going

[05:42:06] Oh, son of a heart, woo.

[05:42:08] I'm a really good player, man. Look at the healing me.

[05:42:10] Woo.

[05:42:11] Yeah, really, really good.

[05:42:13] You're a super player, but I don't trust anybody who likes Xymox.

[05:42:17] Xymox mythic.

[05:42:18] No, it was fine. If you say you like that fight, I genuinely don't trust you.

[05:42:22] It was the spell queuing. It was all of the different combinations of the mechanics.

[05:42:27] You could have the fixate and then have to take the portal. You really had to have intricate class

[05:42:33] knowledge to know how you was going to deal with every single different combination of mechanics,

[05:42:38] which was what our guild personally struggled with because you'd have people that would see

[05:42:42] a combo they hadn't seen before and don't know how they're going to deal with it as well,

[05:42:46] Yep, which is what it's talking about with Kai Vezza with the lines, you know if you don't see every single

[05:42:53] available

[05:42:53] Option you don't necessarily get a feel for how you're gonna play it and there were many different options with the different

[05:43:00] Shapes of lines. Yeah, Kai Vezza spell curing perfectly something so far. I think of the past

[05:43:07] Blizzard has listened to the first

[05:43:10] No, no if you're a unit you get no so they're double whammying there, right?

[05:43:14] because you can see the two stacks of poison so they immune there so they don't get the poison

[05:43:19] and they don't spawn an ARP. That's very interesting. Yeah they've got a lot of people doing it so

[05:43:23] AMS seems to be working, Cloak seems to be working, all those immunities do seem to work on this process

[05:43:30] so it's a real nice double up on that mechanic. I hope it doesn't become sort of necessary

[05:43:35] you know we see because they do have access to like four or five mages if we want them

[05:43:39] They have a lot of DKs, we know that from Bruteswister.

[05:43:42] Yeah, I mean, whoa, I wonder if we are going to have any cloths stacking on this fight.

[05:43:47] Well, coming back, I said there's two things I'm worried about, one is obviously that's getting to that phase two.

[05:43:52] And if given the sheer amount of HPs that we do actually have, and we don't know that yet

[05:43:57] and we won't find out a serious damage check on our hands,

[05:44:00] like that might still be possible given the little adjustments they've done to the HP on this boss,

[05:44:04] is we might be looking down the barrel of what they eventually get to the end of this fight,

[05:44:09] once they get comfy and face-to-face, we're still miles away on the damage, and it becomes a real

[05:44:15] intense fight, especially because most of these characters can't Vantus this.

[05:44:18] Yeah, because they use their Vantuses on Kaiveza, and it doesn't reset until we have our weekly reset,

[05:44:25] which is coming on Wednesday.

[05:44:26] And you know they weren't for Ancerek that week.

[05:44:29] And it's exactly that. Oh, that's... depending on how this boss is tuned,

[05:44:35] that would be terrible if...

[05:44:36] Yep.

[05:44:37] Oh! Hold on. That would be really bad. It would be really bad if you needed the Vantus on this boss.

[05:44:44] Let's just kill it tonight. It would also be the last boss. Easy. All right. Yeah, it's under two of the pulls.

[05:44:48] Let's get it on this reset. Let's get some more characters actually that don't have the Vantus.

[05:44:52] So we can Vantus this boss. All right, no mythic gear. All right, back into splits.

[05:44:59] Yeah, back into splits but we are into the phase two my friends. We have lost Robin with no

[05:45:04] comment was available just as I said that unfortunately which is I think we said in the cast

[05:45:13] room a camera which boss we were looking at but I said this is the best I've ever done immediately

[05:45:18] everybody died oh yeah you you don't know so I was correct we are always watching no that's

[05:45:26] happened on this we are always watching but we are chilling in the cast room we've got a night

[05:45:31] We've got up on the TV in there, big, big TV, we've got nice sofa and we're all sitting there.

[05:45:38] And many a times we have cursed the poor boy. We're like, oh, wow, this is really, really good.

[05:45:45] We've done nothing. They did do the best they've ever done.

[05:45:47] And they immediately die. I think, who was cast at the time? Was it Jesse?

[05:45:51] Yeah. We said the same thing that Jesse did and immediately somebody died.

[05:45:56] And I was like, oh, no, because if it was a curse, this would happen.

[05:45:58] and then three more people died but it was just oh well I'm glad I'm not casting I don't have to sit

[05:46:03] on the floor yeah I've been floored a few times it's fine but they were doing very very well uh I'm

[05:46:09] not sure what's uh what killed Robin but they can't get him up they're continuing on so Miraz is

[05:46:13] going to be solo tanking uh for a little while with all the scarabs on top and the dispels they

[05:46:18] did nice to pull the dispels off you can see our lovely spider lady there says Takesh uh is

[05:46:23] spinning around stinging delirium they've had no issues with that mechanic whatsoever in fact the

[05:46:29] charge coming way way worse. The spells are going really smooth there's not really too much of a

[05:46:33] learning curve here they have that very solved. Yep a lot more players up as we're going into

[05:46:39] second intuition so they should be able to break the shield really quickly compared to last time

[05:46:44] anyway. You can see that damage tick there every 15 seconds they will get a wave of damage

[05:46:49] which spawns orbs that they have to soak yeah and with the way that the are we

[05:46:55] saying doughnuts are going out across the room and that can really offset with the

[05:46:59] orbs as well that they are putting out I know don't it's an ff 14 turn but the

[05:47:07] rings the doughnuts yeah all of the things the doughnuts yeah we got us is a

[05:47:15] fun term. If Roger can yell banana in the middle of the pool, we can yell donuts.

[05:47:19] Shield almost down, you can see that weaker in the middle, so it's a 4% remaining. So

[05:47:24] it will go down. They do have a bunch of orbs to soak though, they need to get them done.

[05:47:28] 45 seconds with a lot of people dead. They have some angst, like Yankob can anchor up.

[05:47:33] They really have managed to get, they've managed to get Robin back up, the combat

[05:47:36] rest came up at the right time. So we are looking at a new best.

[05:47:40] Yeah, this is a new best pool.

[05:47:42] And we're getting some phase three action and this is where they're going to be spending the majority of time

[05:47:46] You look at that time a combat time there at six minutes

[05:47:49] Which means there is now four minutes left to kill this boss with a ten minute and rage timer

[05:47:54] So this is what you're going to be seeing they really have to max so the more practice they get here even with all these people

[05:48:00] Dead is a vital importance. I'm surprised. I'm not getting a young couple of actually, but maybe they're just saying

[05:48:05] Okay, this let's play out. Just watch what's happening. I

[05:48:08] Yeah, how long they have to keep the webs for Jay. Yeah, so they'll need to make sure and they need to block the charge

[05:48:13] So they've got to keep them for this amount of time. It's very chaotic. Hold on

[05:48:19] Yeah, so they have to make sure that certain characters are keeping the webs because everybody will get tethered they'll get dragged in

[05:48:26] Teddards and then you're gonna have players breaking the tethers and then signed

[05:48:30] Charge shoppers as well keeping this but then also the positioning of the orbs

[05:48:34] I can't even there's a lot of overlaps here. I think you were very much right. This is going to be very much an overlap

[05:48:45] Overlap phase. Yeah, it's an intertipid production put there to give us some context here is the HP when they come out of that phase

[05:48:52] Is the amount of HP Kai Bezahut?

[05:48:54] What?

[05:48:56] No they can cleave and there is damage amps. We're not scared yet. There's a lot of people dead.

[05:49:00] I don't know. Okay. I'm getting spooked. Now they have six minutes six and a half to do it on Kai Vezer with optimal perfect

[05:49:07] optimal comp using every time of damage optimization known to human mankind including you know individual grips so they could cast two more

[05:49:14] Globals they had as we found out earlier tossing potions at groups of players both minor stat buffs and

[05:49:20] You know 300ish poles of practice. Yeah, I wonder if they're gonna have any comp changes as well

[05:49:26] I feel like give them time. Okay, you're allowed to sit back on the safe side. Can I?

[05:49:29] It's not nice down here, don't we?

[05:49:31] It smells like vinegar down there, from my pickle crimes.

[05:49:37] Smells like pickles.

[05:49:38] Smells like pickles.

[05:49:39] I don't want a jar of pickles.

[05:49:40] I've got a jar of pickles.

[05:49:41] You are a pickle monster, they don't know.

[05:49:46] They don't know your history with the pickles.

[05:49:50] I went missing in Lethal Company for like 20 minutes, and you died.

[05:49:55] I was like, I didn't know you could spectate.

[05:49:56] You do die if you take part in the game.

[05:49:58] Yeah well I was on the pickle run, I was exploring!

[05:50:02] You were exploring outside the building?

[05:50:04] I let you switch to my POV, I was just running around by myself going I've got to jar a pickles,

[05:50:11] I don't even know.

[05:50:12] Big cash, big money coming in from Jay there.

[05:50:14] Yeah see, the pickles were worth a lot of money, I was very happy with that.

[05:50:17] How do they get a cup with this face through the intro?

[05:50:19] They're going to have to come out, you get dragged in, everyone else drop all your

[05:50:23] orbs, so two teams of orbs, drag in, then you have to go out in the opposite

[05:50:27] directions. Then the web people which I assume are just going to be the same

[05:50:31] web people as phase one so we'll see range gang and Rison and I'm not sure who

[05:50:35] else is doing it I'll check this time. They'll do they'll keep their webs but

[05:50:39] the other team has to yeah see I'm saying what Scrap's saying right now

[05:50:42] they're gonna have to run around across over the charge path of Chungus very

[05:50:48] quickly so we could do a gateway there that would be good yeah if it's a

[05:50:52] predictable charge pathway because the first one certainly is you can see

[05:50:56] the guys getting positioned long before he charges so if it's predictable they

[05:50:59] could gateway over it but they can't touch each other so it'd be like waiting

[05:51:04] for a subway. They're just cute they're forming an orderly queue. Yeah red gang will go and

[05:51:09] then blue gang can come over I'll use two gateways which is a masterful break.

[05:51:14] Oh two gateways, two wallops. So they could have bus station one, bus station two,

[05:51:18] the gateways over so they can collect their orbs in time and do all that kind of stuff.

[05:51:23] There's lots about this is a fun design. This is look at how intensely the chef is.

[05:51:28] Oh, yeah, that's your chef. Roger right now.

[05:51:31] He's so happy. This is what he's in his element.

[05:51:34] Yeah, he's looking at it. He's like, okay, hear me out.

[05:51:38] Choo-choo. Choo-choo. I'm not trusting him right now,

[05:51:40] considering his Kai-Veze strategy involved them facing away and doing some weird stuff.

[05:51:45] Like it was a way of four fools.

[05:51:48] Yeah, it was a beautiful corridor and it worked.

[05:51:51] It did work and it was safe

[05:51:54] But it was they had about three pixels of room to mess around in and at a certain point

[05:51:59] Everybody had to face a certain direction or it wouldn't work

[05:52:02] In order to spawn the Queens Bay in the right place

[05:52:05] Yeah, so they were just like wait you want me to like go over here and

[05:52:08] They had gateways in order to get the things out properly and then

[05:52:12] Face away from things to get the Queens Bay and spawns good and they're like Roger. No

[05:52:18] They vetoed it within three poles Roger getting whiteboard out

[05:52:21] Yeah, it was I think it took 45 minutes to explain in 10 minutes to refuse to do it anymore. Oh

[05:52:27] Yeah, but they compromised it wasn't like it was full bin it wasn't cannex it was like it was

[05:52:32] It was something they discussed and then they were like

[05:52:37] Okay, we'll meet you halfway

[05:52:38] Which they did end up with that strut actually owned us our liquid strike yesterday

[05:52:42] It was nice. It was good. Yeah, it was really nice to see the different ways that the teams

[05:52:48] strategize that fight, the movement where they were placed in the ads. It's always very exciting to

[05:52:54] see the different strats they come up with. If we could show you his real

[05:52:58] screen, I guarantee you he's dragging icons of Ray to plan out just all over the place like this.

[05:53:02] This is full intense brain. I can almost smell the Greekness from here.

[05:53:09] Yeah, he's dripping with the hero sauce out of that brain right now.

[05:53:15] watching anime well that's when he goes back to the hotel he's never that

[05:53:22] serious when he's watching anime he doesn't certainly doesn't look away from

[05:53:25] the screen there'll be absolutely none of that in rogers presence which is fine

[05:53:29] but they are cooking some stuff up obviously Reves taking a quick break

[05:53:32] there let's catch up so sorry I missed out on a ton of your donations earlier

[05:53:35] towards games for love because they were getting good progress we just have

[05:53:38] the best pulls ever from echo 56% phase 3 scene with plenty alive and it

[05:53:43] Looks like it's gonna be a long old phase three guys. Yeah, they are doing extremely well today

[05:53:48] Yeah, they're cooking up real nice here, but you guys a bit amazing today. I mean, it's how you what?

[05:53:56] Oh, this is scheming

[05:53:59] shenanigans if we could do 17 and look we've got two hours left

[05:54:03] We're good

[05:54:04] We eat the hot chip with me. Yes, I will. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've already done it my eyes bled

[05:54:10] but let's do it again. I didn't. I felt like I licked lava. I ate lava. Is it that bad?

[05:54:19] It was, yes. It's this. It's like I ate. They keep bringing it, the reason I'm okay with

[05:54:24] this. They keep bringing it out every time I get on the couch. Like literally they run

[05:54:28] in and put this here like this. And then they tap it to me. It's almost as spicy

[05:54:34] as the ginger shots. Okay. We'll make that a challenge for the kids as you're

[05:54:38] and do that. It can't get worse than the pickle that's all I'm thinking. More importantly we are of

[05:54:43] course along the ride here with the race to well first raising money for very sick children who

[05:54:50] can't get out of hospital, they're trapped there while they deal with serious diseases like cancer

[05:54:54] and things like that and also help them get back into the day-to-day life if they spent months

[05:54:59] or if not years in hospital as we've catch up with education and try and give them back

[05:55:03] a childhood so they provide what they call distraction therapy where essentially it's like

[05:55:07] It feels like play games and be a kid even though you can't leave the hospital, right?

[05:55:12] It's something that's pretty near and dear to my heart.

[05:55:14] I can't imagine what it's like to have my children stuck in hospital and can't visit them all the time.

[05:55:18] And how bored, can you imagine how bored they are?

[05:55:21] Just like sat being ill in a hospital. Sucks man.

[05:55:24] If you've ever spent any time in hospital, it's the worst thing ever.

[05:55:27] So a worthy cause and we can maybe get production to stop giving me this hot chip

[05:55:31] and I can share that experience with you, Jay, considering you dipped on the pickle.

[05:55:35] We've had a few in it, obviously.

[05:55:39] Mike, literish.

[05:55:43] Now I see what you're going for, but you spell it wrong.

[05:55:46] Unlucky.

[05:55:48] So it looks more like licorice.

[05:55:50] Close though.

[05:55:52] Meow.

[05:55:53] Thank you very much.

[05:55:55] Mr. T, set $75.

[05:55:58] Wow.

[05:56:00] $75.

[05:56:03] Dolly and Dot are Mike's best friends and help him cast for hours on ends.

[05:56:08] Hearing Mike sing our song would be nice.

[05:56:10] Do it and the donation will come twice.

[05:56:12] Dolly and Dot are actually some of my favourite characters.

[05:56:16] Yeah, is that the Alpaca, the little song from Shadowlands is it?

[05:56:20] Very cute.

[05:56:21] Yeah, and as production points out it's like a dollar each would easily meet one of these big goals.

[05:56:26] And of course we've got scuff cosplay.

[05:56:27] We're doing all kinds of silly things for you just to provide a little bit of extra sauce

[05:56:32] while the guys are cooking and doing strats and things like that.

[05:56:35] Extra spice.

[05:56:36] Yeah, I haven't done a spicy challenge in a while.

[05:56:38] I think the last one we did was when we had the wings.

[05:56:42] Sepulcher, I think, maybe?

[05:56:44] Mmm.

[05:56:45] I think pretty good at dodging the spice.

[05:56:48] The spicy wings were really spicy until I realized I had the barbecue weakest spice

[05:56:54] wing.

[05:56:55] We've had a 777 donation from Rayvon Clacobonman.

[05:57:04] Awful.

[05:57:06] Just a disgusting name.

[05:57:08] That's the worst.

[05:57:10] I can't believe Mike called me Raymond earlier when my name is Rayblonde and said my name

[05:57:15] is stupid.

[05:57:16] It's a really stupid name.

[05:57:18] Like, it doesn't even seem you can spell it.

[05:57:20] I'm being honest.

[05:57:21] It's like really sad.

[05:57:22] uh okay we're doing a poll look about seven second guys we're a little

[05:57:26] challenged there so we can get jay a spike let's let's give jay a spicy

[05:57:30] finale for our cast today because we haven't really had a cast to get

[05:57:33] until today yeah i know this is our first shift if you want

[05:57:38] mike to call your name dumb then you know what to do call my name dumb oh

[05:57:43] right you want me to call you dumb i don't know that sounds like

[05:57:46] better stuff i don't want that yeah yeah call call me this

[05:57:50] Oh, no. Yeah, I don't like that. Okay redacted redacted. Oh, wow. That was a great all pick up the timing on that red

[05:57:57] All pick up there from team blue was pretty amazing as they drag in these ads not really been a huge issue for the team

[05:58:03] The ads they've been able to lock them down. Of course. They are weird

[05:58:06] I think they have this weird damage reduction that lasts a long arse time

[05:58:10] Yeah, and it would be quite useful to be honest because there are a couple of specs

[05:58:14] that have good funnel and when

[05:58:16] the boss is taking increased

[05:58:18] damage when you stop the charge.

[05:58:20] That could be quite useful, not

[05:58:22] necessarily utilizing it too much

[05:58:24] because the adds are dying a lot.

[05:58:26] You know what that was, don't you?

[05:58:28] Nice memes just greeted the hell out of

[05:58:30] his I-beam and didn't move when

[05:58:32] the rest of the team was rotating.

[05:58:34] He greeted it out. Yeah,

[05:58:36] that's the inner problem with I-beam.

[05:58:38] You're stationary while you're using it.

[05:58:40] It's a channel, so your position

[05:58:42] But unfortunately, when they're rotating around the boss like that, you can get out of position very quickly.

[05:58:47] You can't collide with the opposite color while soaking the opposite color's orbs as well.

[05:58:52] That's why they're rotating in the covers fashion.

[05:58:55] The cool thing is, it's not like Nice Memes isn't going to do that.

[05:58:57] He's just going to be stood to the left of the group when he does it.

[05:59:00] So he was on the right of the group.

[05:59:02] So as the other group moved left into him, he was on the near edge.

[05:59:05] So next time he's like, well, I'm not going to I-beam.

[05:59:07] I'm just going to do it on this side so you don't run into me.

[05:59:10] It's channeled for like it's like a second and a half or something. It's really fast

[05:59:14] Especially under the conditions of bloodlust which they are doing at the start big damage. Yeah, I think they've also recognized

[05:59:21] Oh god, we're in phase three forever. It's not going to be it's absolutely not a case as we hit phase three lust and kill it

[05:59:26] That is absolutely not happening on this fight

[05:59:29] We are going to be sending damage as much as humanly possible and now damage probably really matters

[05:59:35] Because otherwise we're in trouble. So there's the shield going up

[05:59:38] You want to track that shield in the middle exist at 90%

[05:59:41] It's the green bar in the middle of the screen on mini screen

[05:59:44] They need to get rid of this as quickly as possible because every time it pulses damage

[05:59:47] It is extremely painful and gets worse and not only that it does drop orbs as you can see they're cycling around to the left

[05:59:55] You know to pick up these orbs for as long as this goes on. It's just more and more damage

[05:59:59] That's the unfortunately getting taken down there

[06:00:02] unable to survive, but the shield is on 7%

[06:00:05] And done!

[06:00:09] Yeah, they don't unfortunately have a combat res for 1 minute 37.

[06:00:17] Well, I mean they do have two walks.

[06:00:21] And they missed an orb as well, I see you got the three stack.

[06:00:24] Unfortunately, yeah.

[06:00:28] Thankfully that doesn't give you mark for death when it's an orb going off, it just increases your vulnerability.

[06:00:33] pick up three of the motes that will. Let's see if they can do this clean now. So they do get dragged in,

[06:00:37] you can see Hopeful and Xerwo need to keep hold of their webs, but he's also got Stinging Swarm? Oh!

[06:00:46] Yeah, so this is the Dispel. They do have to coordinate these.

[06:00:51] Okay, they're gonna have to... Okay, I don't think they can pre-set people to do both,

[06:00:55] because the webs are gonna keep them pretty close. They can still get closer to the boss. It'll

[06:00:59] interesting how they handle that. So as much as you'd like to pre-assign the

[06:01:02] webbers, you can get stinging, there's five stinging swarms. That's a fifth, you know,

[06:01:06] that's a big portion of the raid that is going to be completely, ideally, not do,

[06:01:11] you can't do webs and stinging swarm. I think without a major cooldown, that's a

[06:01:14] ton of damage. Yeah, absolutely not. I wonder if they're gonna have some kind

[06:01:17] of priority system where the charge stoppers are gonna be high priority for

[06:01:24] dispelled going in first so I can get out and do the webs or yeah you've just got

[06:01:30] to have backup webs I've imagined. Yeah that seems nice. Yeah I'll have to see, his web

[06:01:35] actually broke beforehand because his partner died so that I'll naturally

[06:01:39] take the... Right the deader. Yeah but it's kind of interesting there's the

[06:01:43] stinging swarm you see it changes your screen color when you have it and your

[06:01:46] goal is to get as close to spider lady as possible and you see stinging swarm

[06:01:50] removed it gets dispelled onto the boss all five needs to be put on the

[06:01:54] boss before she finishes this big cataclysmic entropy cast. Yeah and again

[06:01:59] that's a really nice visual because sometimes players have difficulty knowing

[06:02:03] whether they are afflicted with something. They may have the dispel but if

[06:02:06] you're not necessarily looking at the raid frames or your debuffs it can be

[06:02:10] very difficult to see which again would be when you'd have a weak aura to

[06:02:13] say that it's on you and they have a weak aura to coordinate who's being

[06:02:17] dispelled when because you have to make sure that when you're being

[06:02:19] dispelled you have to be the closest person to the boss. If you played

[06:02:23] sanctum of domination, the re-tier in Shadowlands, there was a boss called the Nine, just give

[06:02:28] everyone despair real quick, that was the worst re-tier of my life, but, so just hit everyone

[06:02:33] with the despair. Oh my goodness! I thought he was laughing at me because of mentioning

[06:02:41] Shadowlands and sanctum of domination! That doesn't make me laugh. No! That does not

[06:02:47] make me laugh. It was similar to the Nine if you did play that fight. We should address

[06:02:51] first you want to do that my god okay so this comes with two hours warning I

[06:02:57] know underestimated the power I feel like you are prepared for some I am not

[06:03:03] holy crap kai-ku said $60 first time you're watching a race really it gets

[06:03:11] real from this point on by the way this is the warm-up to what's coming it's

[06:03:16] been a great show so far thanks to all the host and other people making this

[06:03:18] for taking us for a ride with Echo.

[06:03:20] Yeah, believe me, Kaikou is going to get real weird real soon.

[06:03:23] $300 for the kids for a wonderful cause.

[06:03:28] It truly is.

[06:03:29] Yeah, I can't imagine my kids losing their childhood in hospital.

[06:03:31] So thank you so much, Karina.

[06:03:34] That is amazing.

[06:03:35] Thank you so much from the King of the Rats, $25.

[06:03:40] Did you know?

[06:03:49] Carry on.

[06:03:52] No, I didn't enjoy that.

[06:03:53] That makes me happy.

[06:03:55] I didn't awaken anything.

[06:03:56] I was a little concerned like

[06:03:59] But actually I was like no

[06:04:02] You're all in trouble don't do that. Oh my you're doing ready. What are you doing?

[06:04:09] Did you know if you ask Rick Astley for his copy of the movie up? He cannot give it to you

[06:04:13] You will never give you I've been doing so he lets you down this creating the Astley paradox. Oh plot twist. There you go

[06:04:20] $500 oh

[06:04:22] with no nothing said other than rocks you were here thank you so much rocks

[06:04:28] that's five hundred children helps legitimately it's like a dollar helps

[06:04:31] a child because they obviously get things from their shed between wards and

[06:04:35] things like that that's five hundred children who are trapped in hospital you

[06:04:38] just helped out thank you so much rocks about every dollar counts like one

[06:04:41] dollar a piece rocks through this entire twenty thousand go um

[06:04:46] poppage thank you poppage but it's $10 a great cause of choice from what the

[06:04:51] I got to preach what is the donal go for you to tip your Sally toes and some beans

[06:04:55] Everyone's game

[06:04:58] It's really not after what you just did you just fulfilled every fantasy you did with the stream

[06:05:05] If only it was so simple

[06:05:07] I am not point my feet beans. No, thank you

[06:05:10] Brooke, thank you for the $10 no message. Just a good cause. Thank you. It's certainly fish with $75. Hi Jordan

[06:05:17] This is your good friend the rat. Yay. I remember that your favorite pets of fish. Yes it is

[06:05:23] My favorite animal is a fish. Okay, we need to talk later

[06:05:27] Please keep it away from Mike. He's a renowned pet murderer and an animal killer medic can provide evidence

[06:05:32] How could you not like real ones?

[06:05:39] The duck keep quacking and quacking on echo

[06:05:41] Thank you the duck with $10 never see with $10 the race will photos are so fun. You guys are amazing

[06:05:49] We do our best we do our best to echo to give you the best show we can right okay? What do we do? Okay, so I

[06:05:57] Cannot touch this. Okay. Why does it need a glove is it because it is

[06:06:01] Extremely hot. I think it's two million scoville. Okay, so you have to be very careful

[06:06:07] Do I have some sort of liquid?

[06:06:09] A little bit, okay.

[06:06:11] Yeah, I don't know if you want it.

[06:06:13] Alright, so are we doing half each?

[06:06:16] I guess so.

[06:06:18] It says rip, but I don't think it means rip the wrapper.

[06:06:21] It's rest in peace.

[06:06:22] Yeah, I think it is rest in peace because we have it.

[06:06:25] It really needs a glove?

[06:06:26] Yeah, you can't touch it.

[06:06:27] Have I goofed up here or what?

[06:06:29] 2.5 million scoville.

[06:06:31] Okay.

[06:06:33] Okay, it's as hot as police pepper spray.

[06:06:35] pepper spray oh it's a nacho I feel like you're not going to distribute this

[06:06:40] half I will try my best right guys this is half is gonna be full scam show them

[06:06:51] show them your half okay though that was a good let me just keep this away from

[06:06:59] everything right so this is the which side do you want this one you can have

[06:07:11] this one not touching anywhere so that was a fair break i think all right how are you just gonna

[06:07:21] leave it like that yeah i mean i think you can break it a little bit more don't you no no i think

[06:07:25] i've done it already this is half and half it's great that's very equal i've done one already

[06:07:36] don't dip now we just raised like a thousand dollars in five minutes okay all right how do i

[06:07:43] separate this even all right well there has to be a better life than this you're

[06:08:00] gonna have to feed me hang on I can do it we don't need that when did it kick

[06:08:13] him is it like a slow burn shut up oh there it is oh my no your Christmas oh

[06:08:27] Oh, it's when you breathe.

[06:08:28] You guess what?

[06:08:29] Yeah, it gets worse when you breathe.

[06:08:31] So we just stop breathing.

[06:08:32] Yeah.

[06:08:33] Just stop breathing.

[06:08:34] Just give up.

[06:08:35] Call it quits.

[06:08:36] AFK.

[06:08:37] RIP.

[06:08:39] Oh.

[06:08:40] Oh, he's in the back of the throat now.

[06:08:43] Why is that worse than last time?

[06:08:47] Easy.

[06:08:48] What do you mean easy?

[06:08:50] Well, I only had to have a little bit,

[06:08:51] because you don't know how to break a nacho.

[06:08:53] Well, I took a larger half.

[06:08:55] Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[06:08:57] Oh, it keeps going. It's, uh, continuous. Wouldn't you say, Jordan? You look like you've

[06:09:12] made a mistake. Do you feel like you've made a mistake?

[06:09:15] I'm fine.

[06:09:17] Would you like to take a little break?

[06:09:18] My eyes are worried. My eyes twitching.

[06:09:23] Oh, this is great.

[06:09:24] Oh, that hurts.

[06:09:25] I love charity.

[06:09:26] This is great. Oh, that hurts. I love charity make of all the kids though. Oh

[06:09:32] I thought this will pass. That really hurts. You know what feels like

[06:09:36] Eating the pain Smith spikes. Oh, you know my friend

[06:09:42] All that burns

[06:09:44] Well, I tell you let's have a little listening with wave. I love you right back

[06:09:49] I was gonna take it. I was like two seconds from memeing you to take the big one cuz then

[06:18:21] You challenged me!

[06:18:23] I mean, there it is!

[06:18:25] There's no white knight gentlemanly plays around around to Jordan.

[06:18:28] She's taking it and she's talking.

[06:18:30] Give me a round of applause for Jay.

[06:18:31] He took practically the whole chip.

[06:18:32] I had like a third of the chip.

[06:18:34] It was Jordan.

[06:18:36] And that thing is hot.

[06:18:37] That is...

[06:18:38] I'm terrible with spice as well.

[06:18:40] I mean, that's not spice.

[06:18:41] It's just heat.

[06:18:42] Spice doesn't mean just hot.

[06:18:43] That's just pain.

[06:18:44] Yeah, spice should have flavor to it.

[06:18:45] It has some heaver.

[06:18:46] It has flavor.

[06:18:47] A good hot curry with lots of nice spices is delicious.

[06:18:51] I just prefer to taste my food and I also prefer how food doesn't hurt.

[06:18:56] I don't want food to be a painful experience.

[06:18:59] But you guys, it's just like, you know what's crazy is Jordan said,

[06:19:03] I think we should do something else because you raced so much.

[06:19:05] I'm like, what more is there?

[06:19:08] I don't know.

[06:19:09] What more is there?

[06:19:10] Everyone's been so generous.

[06:19:12] Absolutely wonderful.

[06:19:13] You're all incredible.

[06:19:15] Let's go back to the action.

[06:19:16] Let's go back to the action.

[06:19:17] We'll talk about it.

[06:19:18] I think they're wiping.

[06:19:19] Oh, they're wiping.

[06:19:20] Productions like deciding for us, but oh

[06:19:25] Yes, I was saying we've got about 20 20 minutes left. It lingers

[06:19:41] You're not strapping your glove on professor

[06:19:45] I was going for like evil scientist

[06:19:50] That's why I was going wrong!

[06:19:51] That was what it was going for but...

[06:19:52] I don't want us to make everything weird!

[06:19:54] Oh my god, we got so close to the 20k.

[06:19:56] Just a few hours, me and Jay have been on.

[06:19:59] We cannot be more thankful for you on behalf of the charity and for half of the kids.

[06:20:02] It's been no problem, despite the pickling, the chipping...

[06:20:07] Whatever, whatever I'll say, the ratting!

[06:20:10] The ratting.

[06:20:11] Kenzie sent $100.

[06:20:14] We've not even a message, just like it's just a good cause.

[06:20:17] It absolutely is.

[06:20:18] Thank you so much for stopping out.

[06:20:19] I don't miss a $10 with no message just anonymous $10 no message. Just like let's get it in

[06:20:25] Sondra said $200 with no message you guys are outrageous. Thank you so so much

[06:20:31] So pretty stupid those kids

[06:20:34] Thank you so much fifth five

[06:20:37] $500

[06:20:39] Not even a message just like worthwhile. It absolutely is it really is

[06:20:43] I said, near and dear to me, can't imagine my kids losing their childhood to something

[06:20:49] like a disease or something and just being sat there and miserable.

[06:20:53] Chitinelle, or even just like not having games as a kid, such an impact on my life.

[06:20:57] Look where we are now, like just playing games as a kid.

[06:20:59] Absolutely, and then losing a lot of your childhood due to illness?

[06:21:02] It sucks.

[06:21:03] It's just, it's one of those things that you wish.

[06:21:05] I know when my kids were born, the first thing I asked for both of them is like,

[06:21:08] are we good?

[06:21:09] Like, are we healthy?

[06:21:11] You know, that was the very first question.

[06:21:13] I think most parents ask when their children are born

[06:21:15] because you do all the scans, you do all that stuff

[06:21:17] and everything looks okay.

[06:21:18] If you're lucky and then when the barn you're like,

[06:21:22] just tell me, are they okay?

[06:21:25] And it's, that's something you wish for all your children.

[06:21:29] $10 from Chittanelle, $10 to help with the cars.

[06:21:31] Also best of luck on the remaining Rosses of the base.

[06:21:35] The remaining Rosses of the base.

[06:21:37] Remaining bosses of the race.

[06:21:39] Yes indeed. Thank you so much. The race is just heating up again. It's so cool to see some of the first time is here.

[06:21:45] If you could shout in the chat, it's the first time you've followed the race.

[06:21:49] Certainly if you're a member of my audience and you've been a member of different MMOs that we've been playing over here.

[06:21:54] Same with John. We've both been out and about investing in different MMOs.

[06:21:57] It's your first time at the race. What I can tell you is we've not even got to the really good bit yet.

[06:22:03] We've only just got to the penultimate boss. We're not even on the final boss of the Raity yet.

[06:22:08] yet and that's where it all comes down to it's when it gets extremely exciting but this raid has been exciting the whole way through

[06:22:16] See if there are any of you whose first time

[06:22:21] Yeah, I think this is probably a good opportunity enough for our old school while fans this all be like dirt

[06:22:27] Everybody knows this but you a lot of people really don't say doesn't work like this in any of the game

[06:22:31] Everybody's you've seen so far right has been looked at before so what Blizzard tends to do is they have a test period

[06:22:37] But as the expansion is coming out, this is the first rate of the new expansion and during that process

[06:22:43] They do give the players one hour with a version of the boss. Sometimes that version doesn't change very much

[06:22:50] Sometimes it changes dramatically like you'll see memes of the chat about bosses like Holander's right

[06:22:55] Which was from a few raids ago a boss that was so boring and easy that the raiders complained about it

[06:23:00] It's like this boss is rubbish. We don't like it

[06:23:02] It was a big grandiose giant crab it like walked around this huge pathway through the raid and it was boring and then

[06:23:10] The devs went okay

[06:23:12] And then they went away and they mess around with it

[06:23:14] They came back with one of the most surprisingly difficult bosses of all time right in the middle of the raid

[06:23:19] It was a complete mystery to all of us everyone assumed it was going to be easy as boss

[06:23:22] But everything you see so far including the boss we're working on right now

[06:23:26] The raiders have seen because these guys are professionals

[06:23:29] They do this for a living echo is a professional eSports organization. So of course they've been and tested it, right?

[06:23:34] So they have an idea of what's going to happen and it's even a journal in the game that will describe the mechanics to you

[06:23:40] So you can put together a kind of map a plan a strategy how you're going to approach it

[06:23:45] They can even build add-ons in advance that they're going to help with and one of the things you saw earlier today

[06:23:49] If you were following along as they actually went in ten man

[06:23:51] And they played the fight knowing they can't killing it

[06:23:54] Can't kill it but just to see all the timers and things like that

[06:23:57] Because you can see all these timers on the right hand side of the screen of when things are going to happen

[06:24:01] Which is very important for the team to know when massive healing is needed when making immune spells things like that. However

[06:24:08] The last boss that we haven't seen yet. No guild in the world has seen it

[06:24:12] Echo is currently the furthest ahead in the entire world, right? As far as we know

[06:24:16] As far as we know, we don't know liquid turned up their trackers and maybe ahead

[06:24:20] We don't know him. We'll find out relatively soon actually

[06:24:23] We haven't tested the last boss they keep secret there is stuff in the dungeon

[06:24:29] journal but what gets really interesting guys is that there are things

[06:24:32] that are gonna happen on that fight that none of the guilds know what it is

[06:24:36] certainly how to tackle it and we're gonna see in real time as bizarre and

[06:24:41] wonderful things will be happening on Queen Ancerac which is the final boss of

[06:24:44] this raid and we're all along for that ride the mystery the surprise will

[06:24:49] all live vicariously through him because for many players around the

[06:24:52] world, this level of difficulty in video games is just

[06:24:55] unobtainable due to either your personal skill level, but more

[06:24:58] realistically, your lifestyle choice, right? It requires a

[06:25:01] lot of time and a lot of effort to invest into the hardest of

[06:25:04] the hard content in any MMO, especially World of Warcraft. So

[06:25:08] three first timers, when we say it's not really got going yet.

[06:25:11] We kind of, everybody here knew how this boss was kind of

[06:25:14] going to work. In fact, a lot of them hoping for nerds,

[06:25:17] because nobody on the testing, I did say got tested,

[06:25:19] lasted longer than 20 seconds and they only have an hour to test.

[06:25:22] That testing phase is for one hour. The devs give them the boss for an hour to see how they react,

[06:25:28] how they're dealing with it, have they found an obvious mistake, things like that.

[06:25:33] But I will tell you this, once they checked it, a lot of the times here had changed from testing,

[06:25:37] it had been moved around. Generally the premise is the same, but the method has changed.

[06:25:43] Yeah, and when they were testing this boss, a lot of people had said this was one of the

[06:25:48] the hardest bosses that they've ever tested. But really, the final boss is not tested. So

[06:25:54] Mythic is going to have so many more mechanics. It might even be a completely different fight

[06:25:59] to what we see on the easy difficulties, normal and heroic. So it's going to be really exciting

[06:26:03] to get there and see what is in store. And when the Guilds finally get to that last

[06:26:08] boss, that's when things get absolutely tense, exciting. It all comes down to that.

[06:26:15] Yep, it's the reason we do it so often and if we're really lucky as much as Echo never likes me to say this

[06:26:19] We'll end up in a situation like we did with last raid tier where we were hundreds of pulls deep on the final boss

[06:26:25] And they were within point one percent of each other

[06:26:29] I cannot make that up. They were both within point one percent of each other

[06:26:32] They had frack on two point one percent and two percent and they were pulling at the same time at that point

[06:26:38] sleep? Sleep? No. That's not

[06:26:40] happening. Someone's killing it.

[06:26:42] And you had both of these world

[06:26:43] class guilds in Echo and Liquid.

[06:26:45] And obviously, Method is now

[06:26:46] getting up there. They've been

[06:26:48] steadily progressing over the

[06:26:48] last few tiers to get back into

[06:26:50] the world first race. And

[06:26:52] obviously, doing very well right

[06:26:53] now. And they were just pulling

[06:26:55] and slamming. And I know out

[06:26:56] there, a lot of our viewers

[06:26:57] were like,

[06:26:59] Yeah, it's so exciting when

[06:27:01] it goes like that. You know,

[06:27:02] because not many races, usually

[06:27:04] there's one team that's very

[06:27:05] clearly ahead and that will pull

[06:27:07] ahead very obviously by the final boss and it's been very exciting to see them so close

[06:27:13] together. I remember last week on frack I was going from the different teams going pool

[06:27:19] by pool and seeing them pool alongside each other was really exciting and we had that

[06:27:23] a little bit with Kai Vesa kind of.

[06:27:25] And that's why we were actually holding ourselves back because we're pretty sure we're going

[06:27:29] to be here for a good another quite a few days because of course the if you never

[06:27:33] followed the race before I don't even play World of Warcraft which of course many

[06:27:35] if you do the everything will reset for us in the EU on Wednesday it will be

[06:27:40] Tuesday for the US because they are desynced because yeah so that's the way

[06:27:48] it works still even despite the level of the race and interest for Blizzard

[06:27:53] they still desync them and then all the bosses that they killed already will

[06:27:57] come back and they can re-clear them with extra gear because obviously they're

[06:28:01] going to drop new items again and the raids will be much stronger with

[06:28:04] the reset there's lots of ways of gearing up like such as the Great

[06:28:07] We've been talking about the Great Vault which is a weekly reward that players get for the activities

[06:28:12] They completed during the previous week, which gives them generally higher gear level than what they did

[06:28:17] It's a like a steady

[06:28:20] Progression path that a lot of players use but a race will first it's massive

[06:28:23] They get to choose like this really prime item that will give them a huge boost

[06:28:27] So they'll re-clear the bosses in a weird way like it's taken us a week to get to the silken coat

[06:28:33] Yeah, I guarantee you echo and liquid are back and have killed everything else within a couple of hours

[06:28:38] It'll be bizarre how quickly they'll cut through those bosses to get back to their progression path

[06:28:43] It's a really interesting process that will be happening here Wednesday, but cool thing. I talked about a decent earlier, right?

[06:28:49] So in the US liquid are gonna start rating soon

[06:28:52] That's their final day of this week and then their service gonna reset

[06:28:55] So they have very limited time to work on the silk and coal

[06:28:59] Echo has all of tomorrow as well, but we might see some differentiation because I talked about that great ball

[06:29:06] They want the best rewards from there

[06:29:08] So there's some activities they've not completed yet

[06:29:10] Which knowing that it's going to reset because it's always a risk right you don't know whether you're gonna kill the raid before the resale

[06:29:15] No, so they leave this stuff till the end of the week

[06:29:18] So they're 100% sure they're gonna get a reset and then they will have to go do some activities tomorrow

[06:29:22] You know to make sure they have the primest choices cuts from that great ball

[06:29:26] So there's a huge amount of strategy loads things going on. That's why there's so many people here

[06:29:31] You're only seeing we have 17 players here. I believe

[06:29:35] Yeah, 17 players, but on top of that there's 30 people total

[06:29:39] So you've got the casting team, which is only six of us, right? And the seventh mystery caster is yet to arrive

[06:29:45] Which is Mitch really regrets sleeping in the video

[06:29:51] But on top of that they have analysts here

[06:29:54] We can go could we go some camera angle so just to make sure everyone knows what's happening these first time

[06:29:58] We've got Skype if we go to Scrypey. Scrypey is the big brain. He's the leader

[06:30:03] He is he's the one coordinating the whole team. He's making the final decisions on lots of things

[06:30:08] He has been Echo's raid leader now for a very very long time

[06:30:11] He is co-owner of Echo along with the man to his left mr. Roger Brown who is the

[06:30:17] Brain he sees things. He's got more rate world first kills under his belt than anyone else on the planet besides

[06:30:22] Mr. Perfecto actually, who is still playing but Roger there between the two of them. They're coming up with all these crazy strategies that you'll see

[06:30:30] Solving puzzles is what they do and when it comes to Queen Ancerac where we don't know what it does

[06:30:35] That's where they shine because they've had weeks to work on some of the ideas for this boss, right?

[06:30:39] Yeah, because because you know you can kind of see how the fight plays out from read the dungeon journal and seeing on testing

[06:30:47] Even though it does, you know change sometimes from testing to live

[06:30:50] But they can kind of start mapping out they can start coming up with strategies, but where the last boss isn't tested

[06:30:56] They won't know until they get to mid-thick when you read in the dungeon journal

[06:31:00] There's only so much you can get from it, right? It's very difficult to work out how things are gonna look. Is that gonna be a?

[06:31:08] Donut for example as we're saying on this boss

[06:31:10] How are these things gonna look? How are they gonna play out? What are the timers?

[06:31:14] How is it gonna look and that's only gonna be seen when they actually get there?

[06:31:19] Yep, 100% and those two are not playing the game by the way, so they're observing that outside analysts raid leaders

[06:31:25] They're literally you're seeing a gameplay on the screen. That's because Skype is watching

[06:31:31] Jinji in this case. He's watching him from his point of view

[06:31:34] So he has eyes inside the raid so he can coordinate them and his job isn't to like just watch what Jinji's doing

[06:31:40] He couldn't care less. Jinji wouldn't be on the team unless he could handle himself. He's watching the whole raid

[06:31:44] That's why he takes this ranged POV Jinji's obviously playing a mage

[06:31:47] And he's coordinating everybody and adapting the raid team is the big strength everything goes right

[06:31:52] He's got a particularly dull job

[06:31:53] But when it comes to like making adaptions on the fly moving cooldowns around

[06:31:58] Shifting it making plans telling guys what to do. That's what his job is Roger is doing similar things

[06:32:03] But Roger focuses more on like something that might not be implemented for another 30 40 pulls

[06:32:07] He's like, okay. I see something here

[06:32:09] Let me cook as an offense reference where they go away and they figure out what they need to do

[06:32:13] And we also have Chris Potter who is here for he's a returner and he was a raider for a long time

[06:32:18] He's also not playing and you can see he's watching different POV here

[06:32:21] He's watching the healers and he coordinates all the healers because obviously they carry these immense raid-wide

[06:32:28] Cooldowns that are very very powerful that have like three two-minute cooldowns in order to use them

[06:32:33] And he coordinates all that so his job is he watches all the damage moments of the fights when they overlap

[06:32:39] how much damage they do, he calculates that based on the HP of the players, how much damage they can reduce, and then he coordinates it so that every time there is something that can kill these players, they have something in place to make sure they don't die.

[06:32:54] And this is why these bosses are not really doable by teams that don't have access to this kind of resource.

[06:33:00] resource. No, because there is so much coordination. Not only do they have to play the very complex

[06:33:05] mechanics as you were seeing on Kyveza, one misstep led to death and if they did have deaths,

[06:33:11] they didn't have the combat res is available, then they may not make the DPS check. So

[06:33:16] they have to play through the fight and then they have to coordinate all of the cooldowns,

[06:33:20] damage, healing and their utility as well. What are they using? When are they using

[06:33:25] it. How are they moving through the fight? Something very, very cool with Scribe as the

[06:33:30] outside raid leader. He has their POVs at his disposal. He is switching. He is watching

[06:33:36] and so he can make the calls as accurately as possible.

[06:33:39] Yeah, you're going to see something really cool and answer it, where Scribe is going

[06:33:41] to be coordinating two teams simultaneously because the teams, we do know they get

[06:33:46] divided. Half the raid will go one way, half the raid will go the other. You

[06:33:50] saw that on Heroic and you'll have Scribe shooting backwards and forwards to coordinate

[06:33:54] both teams simultaneously swapping between those PVs. So for your first time as following

[06:33:58] the race, that's the outside structure. Generally, we don't talk about that stuff because it's

[06:34:03] not necessary to keep reiterating that kind of stuff. What we want you guys to obviously

[06:34:07] enjoy and understand when you're following along with the race to world first is what

[06:34:11] are they doing with the webs? What are they doing with the snapping? Why is that bad?

[06:34:16] So that way you understand what you're seeing on the screen, especially with World of

[06:34:18] Warcraft UIs that are really complex. So that's what we really see as our primary

[06:34:22] It is for us sometimes. You might catch us sometimes like where is combat resin like looking around the screen because they all play a very personalized style of UI

[06:34:31] So that is what's happening behind the scenes along with a bunch of other technicians who build add-ons and things like that and

[06:34:36] We've got we've got feelings. Yeah week or is on site

[06:34:40] All kinds of complicated things that aren't really necessary

[06:34:43] We'll just our job is really to make sure you guys can be involved understand and see when they're making that big progress

[06:34:48] progress, uh, and not bog it down with minutiae of what's happening in the back.

[06:34:51] But it's a big operation of the wild race to world first of these days.

[06:34:54] And of course we brought that stuff for team with echo recently, uh, adding a full

[06:34:59] on world first.

[06:35:00] Final Factor 14 team.

[06:35:02] Yeah.

[06:35:02] They had their savage tier as well.

[06:35:04] Little disappointing.

[06:35:05] We got abreast.

[06:35:06] Yeah.

[06:35:06] We did have a 14.

[06:35:08] That was a very short rate here.

[06:35:10] Extremely short.

[06:35:11] We got abreast in, uh, in the FF 14.

[06:35:14] But, uh, any of you who were interested in seeing the hardest

[06:35:17] MMO content that exists that's going to be coming up with FF14 Ultimate.

[06:35:21] Ultimate Eden is coming up in a couple of months time actually.

[06:35:26] It's going to be brutal.

[06:35:27] It's a very exciting time for MMOs because there are so many cool events that are happening.

[06:35:32] So much cool content.

[06:35:33] Oh my god.

[06:35:34] What?

[06:35:35] You can read that.

[06:35:36] The top.

[06:35:37] Oh.

[06:35:38] Because it's too cute.

[06:35:42] Oh my goodness.

[06:35:43] Oh, we have had a huge donation, do you think we should read it after this

[06:35:50] Paul to give it. Yeah, just because it needs the credo it deserves. Okay, you can go now.

[06:35:54] All right, well this pool is over. We have had an enormous $1,000 donation

[06:36:04] from Minnie's mum. I'd love to tell you your son is wonderful. I've met him. This is the third

[06:36:11] time I've met him and he's so polite, he's so nice, he's very social, comes and talks to

[06:36:16] us whenever he gets chance he's an amazing person he is really wonderful I

[06:36:20] really love talking to Mini he is so kind he's so sweet and he's one of my

[06:36:25] favorite people to sit with when I'm a bit nervous yeah it can be very

[06:36:28] intimidating being at the race right there's a lot of people and he always

[06:36:32] makes me feel very comfortable we have our nice little chats on occasion he is

[06:36:36] wonderful person and he is an exceptional player she was absolutely

[06:36:41] Blaster so proud of him. He's absolutely a gamer. He is absolutely a gamer and

[06:36:47] interesting enough many's mom we after dinner after lunch when it comes up it is

[06:36:52] to sit down the secret lab your son is going to be interviewed he's gonna sit

[06:36:56] down and do his interview with us and chit chat about his time here obviously

[06:37:00] flown over from the US to be here but thank you so so much for that as you

[06:37:04] we nearly hit $20,000 it's nearly for scuffed cosplay which is a hell

[06:37:09] of a thing but still incredible but all them are free jay the while we were

[06:37:13] chit chatting there that's while they're getting themselves sorted because you guys

[06:37:17] have so thankful it really is a pleasure to be here we have fun obviously but it's

[06:37:23] a pleasure to be here and doing this we love it I've done it for you've done it

[06:37:28] yeah you've done it real OG I look forward to every year when the message

[06:37:33] comes to you like yay they asked me back right in your paragraphs and why

[06:37:38] They should bring you along

[06:37:44] I'm gonna tell that story I'm scream are you

[06:37:48] If we have a 20k I will tell the most embarrassing

[06:37:54] K I will tell the most embarrassing Jordan story ever cuz it's the cutest

[06:38:08] I'm just going to laugh at all the time constantly, like, ha ha!

[06:38:14] Quick read and fast because they're going to go on lunch soon.

[06:38:17] We have Look, Ma, No Pants saying pretend $25 donation.

[06:38:25] Bettering the lives of children is the most worthy cause there is.

[06:38:29] Thank you to the people behind the charity for all their work.

[06:38:32] Absolutely agree with you. This is a wonderful cause.

[06:38:36] We also have a $100 donation from Ryujin.

[06:38:42] So thank you very, very much.

[06:38:46] There are so many, this is absolutely fantastic.

[06:38:48] There's so many children whose lives you are enriching

[06:38:52] dark time in their lives.

[06:38:54] This is really wonderful.

[06:38:55] They have wonderful, wonderful people

[06:38:57] that you do not want to enter a progress just in case.

[06:39:00] Because you never know with these guys

[06:39:02] when they suddenly have the best poll in the world.

[06:39:04] Yeah, you also know what's interesting.

[06:39:06] They've been changing something in phase one,

[06:39:09] as we were seeing some deaths,

[06:39:11] which is usually when they're adjusting

[06:39:12] to a slightly different strat.

[06:39:14] And something I've noticed,

[06:39:15] we've consistently lost two people on pull

[06:39:18] and we're consistently losing even more people on pull.

[06:39:20] And now they've not lost anyone.

[06:39:22] And that's usually some shenanigans.

[06:39:26] Not shenanigans.

[06:39:27] They usually start changing,

[06:39:30] they may be implementing some tech,

[06:39:33] changing the strat slightly.

[06:39:35] Usually healer cooldowns are getting shifted is why because the way the prog works for Echo is they overheal like hell

[06:39:41] It is the way to go right they overheal which means they're pumping way more cooldowns way more healing spells that are necessary

[06:39:48] In fact, if you remember if you watched a brood keeper is by the time they got to the second area of brood keeper

[06:39:54] The healers were whom they were just pumping and pumping and all healers do this and then they like assess it and potters

[06:39:59] Done his magic right because it takes potter some time to assess that damage and then he comes out and goes right

[06:40:05] We're not doing that much healing to you anymore. You're gonna have to look after

[06:40:08] yourselves a bit more. You're gonna have to play a little safer and also it's gonna

[06:40:12] look a little spooky but one thing they always recognize and this is what's cool

[06:40:16] about how the healers work, they find gaps where there's like not much damage

[06:40:20] going on and they'll just leave the raid on really low health as scary like

[06:40:24] here look there's no damage and they'll just leave the raid low and

[06:40:28] they'll just be like we'll just trickle your HP up at this point we

[06:40:31] don't need to heal you to full because nothing's gonna happen we

[06:40:34] So you're all good to take 20 30 seconds to give you HP and that means the healers could damage during that phase

[06:40:40] And it's a weakened phase that bus takes more damage at that point

[06:40:43] Yeah, and that's the level of min maxing that really comes to shine on bosses like this as you're saying

[06:40:49] You know, we don't need to hill we're not taking any incoming damage. So we might as well pump out as much damage as we can

[06:40:55] While the boss is taking that extra

[06:40:58] We are in the intermission it would be breaking the shield to get out of the

[06:41:04] intermission while we have a few of the range pairs soaking each other's orbs

[06:41:08] because they still need to soak the opposite colors orbs is the main and

[06:41:13] mythic change in this fight you'll have the little melee group circling the

[06:41:17] boss as the merry go merry go round goes around indeed and it seems like we

[06:41:23] broke the shield. Yeah they missed an orb though unfortunately.

[06:41:26] damage across the raid. Instead of it going on one player it goes on everybody.

[06:41:33] Unfortunate guys, they almost got through that super clean but I think one orb got missed,

[06:41:38] stacking it up at that vulnerability much higher causing those less defensive players

[06:41:43] to take more damage or they may have clipped each other. There's a few things that can go on

[06:41:47] there because you can out heal a missed orb. But if you touch another player it's instantaneous

[06:41:53] death if you touch another player of the opposite opposing color I should say yeah

[06:41:56] it's a little bit like a sided athrius face face free and love that pipe you

[06:42:00] couldn't interact with anyone in the opposite realm yep exactly any touchy

[06:42:05] touchy of reds touchy immediate death it's just straight up death they're gonna

[06:42:10] keep pushing them though because they want to press look how quickly they're

[06:42:12] getting the dispels it's in look at they could see that big damn hundred

[06:42:18] percent is so fast it's so smooth it's not been a single problem for them

[06:42:22] unless they've been down to like two players.

[06:42:24] Rice and even looks like he's enjoying himself

[06:42:26] for the first time in this raid.

[06:42:27] It doesn't look like he wants to smash the keyboard to pieces

[06:42:29] because Buzzard's given him the hardest healer fights

[06:42:32] in the world.

[06:42:32] It is wonderful to see Rice in playing again.

[06:42:36] He stepped out for a couple of tears

[06:42:37] because he was kind of raid leading the healers.

[06:42:41] Yeah, he was there potter for a while.

[06:42:42] Yes, he was there potter for a while.

[06:42:43] And he wanted to get back into playing

[06:42:46] and he is this tier and he is doing phenomenal.

[06:42:50] F needs to he's enjoying himself more than he has done for a few tears because the job needs doing you know

[06:42:55] The healing coordinator is a role that is necessary at this level of play

[06:42:59] And they just they look so high and low

[06:43:02] They searched everybody for somebody who is capable of properly assessing the

[06:43:07] The damage values and doing all these predictions because you need to be aware of every classes defensive abilities

[06:43:12] How much they do how often they're off cooldown

[06:43:15] Who needs more healing who needs less

[06:43:17] Assigning an under you need to understand essentially every spell tool zip in the game from a healing standpoint

[06:43:23] It is considerable planning. There is so much math going on behind the scenes. It is

[06:43:29] Ridiculous. Yeah, so it's not gonna be a new best, but it's close enough as they carry on and they're going into okay

[06:43:35] This intermission is gonna last forever

[06:43:38] Many people alive as they will need to break the shield once again to move on out

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[06:50:38] We covered a lot today.

[06:50:45] Find yourself at the PC thinking about your health.

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[06:55:36] Forget on this drinker

[07:45:57] Okay, I want to see each I want to see each I want to see each yeah, I would get drink of you boom beat Klover's

[07:46:09] Can I get one of those

[07:46:18] I'm gonna speed for you here.

[07:46:21] Lower it, lower it as well.

[07:46:23] Okay, let's make a...

[07:46:24] How do you call it?

[07:46:24] Let's do a huge trick.

[07:46:26] Watch.

[07:46:27] I'm trying to go for Siege.

[07:46:37] I had Siege as easy.

[07:46:38] Half a lower, keep it right on.

[07:46:40] No.

[07:46:41] Oh yeah, there.

[07:46:41] I'll stay on the lower.

[07:46:42] Did you not have a teleport part?

[07:46:45] I'll Siege up here and I'll make sure to lower your key where I had to keep it.

[07:46:47] Oh, half a lower.

[07:46:48] I lower that.

[07:46:49] Hop on.

[07:46:50] Hop on.

[07:46:50] He's on it, he's on it.

[07:46:52] Lock in.

[07:46:54] Lock in, lock in.

[07:46:55] Let's get it guys.

[07:46:56] Fast, fast.

[07:46:56] This is breakfast break, huh?

[07:46:57] I hope my deck is good, Routes.

[07:46:59] You can see the enemy spots from the annoying bot or a little bit fixed or something

[07:47:03] No, probably you play all of them, it's all easy

[07:47:05] If you just chain pull

[07:47:08] And you don't have the new nerf stuff

[07:47:10] There's a thing on the right here by the way, hop off

[07:47:12] Yeah, it's down there, it's the hot one

[07:47:14] On the right, east

[07:47:16] It's the hot enemy

[07:47:19] It's all on your map

[07:47:22] It's not a map, they don't discover it

[07:47:24] But it's not a new map

[07:47:30] That's why we were confused and went to the African

[07:47:33] I had a little egg, oh wait, I just have a little egg, some time.

[07:47:38] I'm not sure what I was doing, I'm just gonna scroll.

[07:47:40] Alright.

[07:47:41] I was just getting eye-ride coaching.

[07:48:01] What's with the shit?

[07:48:19] I don't know, I just can't keep now.

[07:48:22] I had a little egg checking.

[07:48:23] I just need to put on the...

[07:48:30] We need to trust, we need to trust.

[07:48:32] I don't see like, overcounting if you have enough to invest in a ship.

[07:48:35] I mean, last time I had a little bit of a weapon on me.

[07:48:43] I was like, why are you telling me that?

[07:48:44] I don't have a weapon, man.

[07:48:45] I mean, I...

[07:48:46] Yeah, you always look like I'm a sage and I see do some soul skip.

[07:48:50] Yeah, it was like 105% of the time.

[07:48:53] Dungeons class, actually.

[07:49:01] How many models do you have?

[07:49:03] How many models do you have?

[07:49:05] Too many.

[07:49:06] Too many?

[07:49:07] Yeah, three in terms.

[07:49:11] Yeah, this is the first one.

[07:49:13] Oh, shit. I was only a head all over.

[07:49:15] Isn't that crazy?

[07:49:16] I mean, we could have to go up.

[07:49:18] That's fine, so not one full point.

[07:49:20] Every time the Bombers do a damage run, no damage, like blast damage run.

[07:49:25] Yeah, there is a little bit of a glitch.

[07:49:27] A little bit of a glitch.

[07:49:29] A little bit of a glitch, I don't know.

[07:49:31] Walking now.

[07:49:32] Getting the gap here.

[07:49:33] I'm acting with Bomber Shield Ghost.

[07:49:36] And then I kick first.

[07:49:38] Yep.

[07:49:40] That's a big ass level.

[07:49:42] Finish dead forge or maybe.

[07:49:44] And then I'll be awesome.

[07:49:46] Leave up your obelisk.

[07:49:48] I press Z for reset.

[07:49:49] I'll press the legal.

[07:49:51] You're supposed to press the legal.

[07:49:54] Must you must bar you?

[07:49:56] After is a very strong word.

[07:50:00] He also does not have to kick in.

[07:50:03] Must you must bar you?

[07:50:05] I don't know what that is.

[07:50:08] Why don't you press the legal?

[07:50:10] It's coming in two, one, after the slope of global.

[07:50:16] There it is.

[07:50:18] I guess it was the biggest one.

[07:50:21] No, no, it was the new guy when I pulled him. Maybe they're just fiddling with him.

[07:50:26] See the slam and the cannon.

[07:50:27] I'm laying down in my chair.

[07:50:28] No!

[07:50:30] Fast.

[07:50:30] Well, kidnap, though.

[07:50:31] No, I'm fully...

[07:50:32] I don't know.

[07:50:33] I'm fully done.

[07:50:33] I trust you guys, I don't know.

[07:50:35] We always...

[07:50:36] Like, the back group always like here.

[07:50:39] After the gate.

[07:50:40] It's a spice area.

[07:50:41] Oh, this is a spicey pole, guys.

[07:50:44] He just ran in.

[07:50:46] I thought he had a threat.

[07:50:48] No.

[07:50:48] We're not in a little booth.

[07:50:49] They're sent all cooldowns, oh, we have a bit.

[07:50:51] I would recommend the kick.

[07:51:03] I did kick.

[07:51:05] I have some focus now.

[07:51:06] Then I stole a Vinnie, he's not even talking anymore.

[07:51:08] Yeah, it's Gruries.

[07:51:09] Oh?

[07:51:10] Yeah.

[07:51:11] He's the red wolf wearing off.

[07:51:14] I'm out of here.

[07:51:15] That's fine.

[07:51:16] I just figured that we'd kind of get launched with some kicks, so I'm just waiting.

[07:51:22] That is weak.

[07:51:23] That's a weak shot call right there.

[07:51:25] I guess that's fine.

[07:51:27] I understand, you know.

[07:51:28] You're listening to some breaks here and there, you know.

[07:51:30] Yeah, that's true.

[07:51:32] Who are the beers?

[07:51:36] Well, what is it?

[07:51:42] It was actually Blarney Noye.

[07:51:44] Sorry, I was building.

[07:51:48] I think we're wrong spotter.

[07:51:50] Because if we killed a raider, we could actually catch him.

[07:51:56] So that would be my primary target of it.

[07:52:04] Would it be warm or not?

[07:52:14] Oh, that's exactly right.

[07:52:16] 45% minus A is 10.

[07:52:27] Is it the boss on pull or with that damage, huh?

[07:52:29] Oh, damage on pull.

[07:52:35] Is that what it was?

[07:52:37] I don't know, it was 50 in the past I'm pretty sure, I don't know if it's more or not

[07:52:42] It's the end on the sand

[07:52:44] Oh, they didn't pull the tape though, right?

[07:52:48] Yeah, yeah, yeah

[07:52:49] Let's go now

[07:52:51] This fucker

[07:52:53] You sent everything in?

[07:52:56] Yeah, kicking in

[07:52:58] Going

[07:52:59] No, I need to press

[07:53:00] YOLO

[07:53:04] YOLO

[07:53:09] You got this?

[07:53:10] Oh, this is some tight turn right here

[07:53:12] I don't want to make it

[07:53:14] He's actually in NASCAR

[07:53:16] He's actually in NASCAR

[07:53:18] Oh it's so fast

[07:53:25] I'd like to say I don't even control but I didn't see the bomb

[07:53:28] That's ok

[07:53:32] Where's the mic again?

[07:53:34] Oh it's here, good one

[07:53:35] Got the sitting sensor

[07:53:40] Boom

[07:53:41] What's that?

[07:53:42] Boom

[07:53:44] What's that?

[07:53:45] You sent the answers

[07:53:46] I'm sure it's not the mic again right?

[07:53:48] Maybe the mic is it's one

[07:53:49] If you stand a little bit further away, it's gonna blow it up.

[07:53:52] What's your weekend?

[07:53:57] Yeah, bomb?

[07:53:58] I blew it up. Is this gonna explode?

[07:54:01] I think it was fine.

[07:54:03] No, I think it was fine.

[07:54:05] I think it was fine.

[07:54:06] It was like five seconds.

[07:54:07] Yeah, it was fine.

[07:54:08] I believe it will fall.

[07:54:09] I was ready to blow it up.

[07:54:12] You think I said bomb?

[07:54:13] Same.

[07:54:14] And we're dying, yeah.

[07:54:15] We're dying.

[07:54:16] Goodnight.

[07:54:18] That's your prince.

[07:54:20] nice guys the time stand minus five minutes yeah this is pretty fast compared to previous keys

[07:54:27] and my previous key was played by some incident in the last post

[07:54:35] and I remember that

[07:54:38] yeah it was some delicious

[07:54:40] you have a red power right now you're literally kind of

[07:54:42] I'm a chaining you guys

[07:54:49] I love chaining in mplus I'm just letting you guys die

[07:54:52] I love training as well. If I get a win six then I'm very happy.

[07:54:55] You give a cheering and then you just put a perfect kick sometimes and you will play up the Lepus if they don't.

[07:54:59] Yeah, that's the way it is.

[07:55:01] Yeah, I mean, that's exactly how it goes.

[07:55:05] Because I kick once and that's it.

[07:55:08] I go on the bike, I kick once as a tank and then, you know, they can do whatever they want.

[07:55:12] They are their own, yeah.

[07:55:13] Yeah.

[07:55:15] I mean, that's actually so wrong because when I go to the footballer and you can solo every single move.

[07:55:19] There he goes.

[07:55:21] What palo?

[07:55:22] Yeah.

[07:55:24] I don't know if I'm back-backed currently.

[07:55:26] I think I'm the other one.

[07:55:28] I got...

[07:55:29] Oh, Franco!

[07:55:31] I'm drinking.

[07:55:32] I'm drinking.

[07:55:33] I did already.

[07:55:36] Don't you spawn right behind us?

[07:55:38] Wait, what was the meaning of wrong palo?

[07:55:40] It's not optimal, Franco.

[07:55:43] I'm sorry, I didn't even know there was shooting thing here.

[07:55:47] What do you mean?

[07:55:48] I'm just doing damage to them.

[07:55:50] Nothing else to do

[07:55:55] You know because it says you want to move

[07:56:00] I was trying to get my device of all the books that was alive. Okay, let's mod up

[07:56:11] As a don't dinner don't divine toll on the pack before the boss because the one told prior the boss I

[07:56:19] Learned that the hard way

[07:56:21] Okay, hey, why is my mage pulling some crowspits?

[07:56:28] Fun?

[07:56:29] She has to do small silvers

[07:56:31] He's an arcane orb

[07:56:34] That thing pulled Kvesa way too often

[07:56:39] What? That never pulled

[07:56:40] Is that what it wants?

[07:56:42] Missiles

[07:56:43] Oh no, maybe it was Flex that pulled the boss

[07:56:48] Wait, Fleming Flux but he's not even here

[07:56:54] No, I said he pulled the boss and then...

[07:56:56] Currently sleeping

[07:57:01] No, he's sleeping, he's just building up an awesome...

[07:57:07] He's doing the big sleep. He went to bed early and then wake up late.

[07:57:20] Which I can do that.

[07:57:25] Oh, we had love.

[07:57:26] The event never gets the big sleep, yeah.

[07:57:28] We never had a long sleep in two weeks.

[07:57:31] Two weeks? There was more like a month.

[07:57:34] I had flicks gaslighting for a few days since they actually came out.

[07:57:38] I am the funnel bad.

[07:57:44] Good morning.

[07:57:45] There's a guy on the way.

[07:57:47] How did that get only two dots now?

[07:57:54] I think there's a guy there.

[07:57:56] Oh, you got this instead of...

[07:57:58] Okay, I see.

[07:58:00] Was it in something?

[07:58:04] You got it.

[07:58:06] It was a knuckle, this is not a frontal anymore.

[07:58:08] The screen just swiped from the head, so...

[07:58:10] You know...

[07:58:12] It's quite nice.

[07:58:14] They made this boss actually so free.

[07:58:16] Like, I'm small back and they were so much harder.

[07:58:18] Yes.

[07:58:20] Yes

[07:58:33] Hello, good value that is a bleed by racing could court quarterizing flame for the future

[07:58:41] Yeah

[07:58:47] Morning everyone. I was careful not to say good morning everyone. Okay

[07:58:51] Welcome back to the race the world first here in the Arbor Palace. My name is Jesse

[07:58:54] I'm here with the wonderful in the garage. Good morning. Good morning

[07:58:57] How are you and this beautiful morning?

[07:59:00] I'm awake.

[07:59:02] Me too.

[07:59:03] I'm recovering from hot dog withdrawal.

[07:59:05] Oh.

[07:59:06] Is that a normal thing?

[07:59:07] Is that just an American thing?

[07:59:10] Like they have that?

[07:59:11] It's not an American thing.

[07:59:12] Oh, okay.

[07:59:13] We had a jar of hot dogs yesterday.

[07:59:14] A jar?

[07:59:15] So you walked in this morning and you said, oh, protein bars.

[07:59:19] Yeah.

[07:59:20] You have no idea what happened last night.

[07:59:21] Wow.

[07:59:22] Okay.

[07:59:23] Now I need to know the story.

[07:59:24] So you don't?

[07:59:25] I feel like it.

[07:59:26] Although I stare at hot dogs in jars, is that a thing?

[07:59:29] Apparently it's a German thing, it's German all over it.

[07:59:32] It is a jar of water, hot dogs in water.

[07:59:35] Interesting.

[07:59:37] Which did not last the night, Medic and I had our way with him.

[07:59:42] What else did Medic do yesterday?

[07:59:44] I mean, I saw pictures of him and Preach and it, hot dogs with you, pickles, but I don't know what's going on.

[07:59:50] Yeah, nothing good.

[07:59:52] But chat was entertained and that's what matters.

[07:59:54] Good morning everyone, hope you're well.

[07:59:55] a lot to talk about this morning. Currently, we are on the last day of the

[08:00:00] reset for Echo. They have a full day ahead of them, but the last day of the

[08:00:04] reset before they head into their re-clears tomorrow. Liquid currently

[08:00:09] coming near the end of their last day of the reset, and then they will be

[08:00:13] doing their re-clears starting later tonight for us. And then we're going

[08:00:18] into the reset with thus far, Silkencourt. Still alive for both guilds.

[08:00:23] yesterday echo got the boss down to 53% after 87 pulls overnight the boss did get some changes

[08:00:29] liquid has now got the boss down to sub 10% of around 159 pulls excellently done to them

[08:00:35] an interesting little dynamic here with both guilds you know kind of deciding how hard do we go to

[08:00:41] try to kill silken court before reset with the raid very clearly going to that second reset

[08:00:48] what do you mean by how hard i mean obviously they want to kill it right are you saying that

[08:00:52] that they would be...

[08:00:53] Do you stay up late?

[08:00:54] Do you...

[08:00:55] That's what I mean, okay, stay up later.

[08:00:56] Do you knit the splits?

[08:00:57] Or do you send that time?

[08:00:58] Like, there's lots of things that could do versus spend all their time trying to kill

[08:01:02] some concourse.

[08:01:03] Yeah, so I think, personally, like the earlier in the day this, the more sense it makes

[08:01:09] to try and kill a boss, right?

[08:01:10] But I do think that if all you're going to see on Anthrax is like an hour of progression

[08:01:16] or an hour of pulling a boss, I think the value of that is not very high, personally.

[08:01:20] because you're going to see face one only of course and like some people are

[08:01:25] arguing oh then you can see the boss and then you know what you need to gear but

[08:01:28] you don't like pulling the buzz one hour is not going to give you the

[08:01:31] information that you need to figure out what kind of classes you would

[08:01:34] potentially need to gear especially like something out of the ordinary because

[08:01:38] the ordinary classes that you need you'll gear anyway right so I don't

[08:01:42] think that will help them very much the only thing that of course will

[08:01:45] help you is getting some timers which should be fair like some of the

[08:01:49] face one timers yeah how much value do you get from that so I kind of I think an

[08:01:56] hour in the last boss not really super valuable my opinion I agree I think

[08:02:00] obviously you're right that the earlier in the day you kill Silicon Core the more

[08:02:05] value you get from progressing on Amsterdam it is somewhat valuable they

[08:02:09] will see that you also get the loot from Silicon Core which is nice you

[08:02:11] get an extra boss kill for everyone who's in which is nice great vault for

[08:02:16] for the Mythic Raid unlocks at 2, 4 and 6 boss kills, so for some players, killing Silicon

[08:02:22] Court would give them that extra 4th or 6th boss kill for an extra option, that's kind

[08:02:26] of good value. But I kind of agree with you, I think if either guild pushed really hard

[08:02:32] and successfully killed Silicon Court today, the primary benefit would be to morale and

[08:02:36] like team spirit, it would feel great to be the only guild that killed Silicon Court

[08:02:40] in the week 1 reset. It wouldn't have much of an impact on the race overall, in fact

[08:02:44] I think it would have virtually none.

[08:02:46] We can talk briefly.

[08:02:48] So the other options I wanted to talk about,

[08:02:50] of course I do in keys, you get great vault options

[08:02:54] for two, six, and 10 keys, I believe,

[08:02:59] or two, six, and eight or something like that.

[08:03:02] And they're trying to get all of their plus 10s

[08:03:03] then have good loot in there.

[08:03:04] A lot of these players also trying to get great vault

[08:03:06] options for multiple characters.

[08:03:08] So that gives them something to do

[08:03:10] while Scribe and Potter and Roger go through

[08:03:13] sort of what they want to do on Siliconcourt.

[08:03:15] Siliconcourt did pick up a couple of adjustments overnight.

[08:03:18] Yeah, so apparently they have a two tank now.

[08:03:21] Blizzard didn't like that, that they weren't one tanking two mythic bosses in a row,

[08:03:26] and they fixed that, which I personally think it's a good decision,

[08:03:31] especially because we don't want other mythic guilds to also have to one tank,

[08:03:36] and like in general one tanking is something that should be like something that you do

[08:03:40] to push a damage check right on Qvase I think it made sense because it was also

[08:03:44] difficult and you had the tank needed to die and you had to rest like it was

[08:03:47] actually something that was very risky and I doubt other guilds would be doing

[08:03:51] that but one tanking on Siliconcourt I do think was pushing it a little bit so

[08:03:55] the fact it was sort of fixed that was a good decision in my opinion but

[08:04:00] then they also nerfed the bosses HP by 5% to compensate that I have to

[08:04:04] bring a tank which I think is an interesting nerf because obviously the

[08:04:09] one tank is not going to be 5% boss HP, so they definitely overshot that nerf a little bit,

[08:04:16] certainly on purpose. They were thinking, okay, we probably, I'm not sure what their

[08:04:20] goal was to see maybe if the guilds can kill the boss still before they reset. Maybe they

[08:04:26] are worried, which is a very good word to have, that maybe it would go into next

[08:04:32] reset. And Blizzard does not want to have that happen unless it goes far into the,

[08:04:39] And I don't mean this reset coming up, but the one afterwards obviously.

[08:04:42] Because we don't want the last boss to die around the reset time, because then of course

[08:04:47] it's going to be very heavily in favor of the Naenggilds.

[08:04:50] Yeah, really good point.

[08:04:52] So for those who are interested, the precise details of the hotfags that came in overnight

[08:04:56] was, and I'll give some background first, the beetle hits the tank with a piercing

[08:05:03] strike that was supposed to do pretty significant damage, but more importantly left behind

[08:05:08] debuff yesterday that lasted for a full minute, increasing the damage you take from the subsequent

[08:05:12] Tank Busters by 100%. And we had lots of tank deaths to that because the problem is that Tank

[08:05:18] Buster came in every 20 seconds, so since it lasted a minute, you simply could not alternate to

[08:05:23] only deal with one at a time. You had to take two or three stacks, and we were having tank

[08:05:26] deaths to that. Since you have to take multiple stacks, Echo made the fairly logical conclusion

[08:05:31] of, okay, well, how many of those can we take? And if you use the Blood Death Knight,

[08:05:34] some externals and some good gameplay. You could take four, which is all you needed to take before

[08:05:39] it went through the admission, and you got it reset anyway. So okay, all right, let's solo tank this.

[08:05:45] In order to fix that, what Blizzard did was they made two changes to that tank buster. First,

[08:05:50] they made the debuff only last 30 seconds, happening every 20 seconds or the 30 second

[08:05:54] duration, means that you can actually taunt swap back and forth and only ever have one stack.

[08:05:58] And then they made it multiply your damage from subsequent applications of the tank buster by a

[08:06:05] 1000% instead of 100% making it lethal to take that second stack we assume

[08:06:10] So that will effectively

[08:06:13] Fix the tank debuffs so that you do have to to tank and make to tanking viable in a way that it kind of wasn't before with the

[08:06:18] Increased duration and then yeah, they beat they fixed the health by 5% which is a very large nerve

[08:06:23] I haven't checked yet, and I won't be able to until polls go live and I get logs

[08:06:28] But I'm also interested to see if that changes the shield values in the intermissions

[08:06:31] Oh, that might be based on health boss health though

[08:06:33] So it might be a larger nerf already even than we think or might not help me take a look at that

[08:06:38] I agree with you of course, right?

[08:06:40] So I think they did want silk and quart to be killable this week

[08:06:44] It's fine for the last boss to go into a second week

[08:06:47] But it's very rare for a non last boss to not even be killed until the second reset

[08:06:52] But the position we're in right now, when we're talking about reset timings, is actually

[08:06:57] very interesting and almost ideal, right?

[08:06:59] With Silkencourt not dead and perhaps not dying today, Onsirok un-looked at, you're looking

[08:07:03] at a day of re-clears, potentially a day or two of progress on Silkencourt, and then

[08:07:07] several days of progress on Onsirok, we are well into the weekend and the staggered

[08:07:11] reset doesn't really matter.

[08:07:12] If the situation you were talking about arose where they kill Silkencourt on like

[08:07:18] Friday, they don't have enough time to kill on Sarac, but they get her close before the reset,

[08:07:23] and then it's a race to the reset situation that, like what almost happened on Sylvanas, for example,

[08:07:27] then that's very awkward. So I do think that Blizzard's keeping a close eye on that, and it

[08:07:31] might be the case that they wanted that 5% health nerf, not just to compensate for the solo tank,

[08:07:37] but also to say, let's make sure this can die today.

[08:07:40] Yeah, because the reason why this would be very awkward, let's create a situation,

[08:07:45] And let's say Siliconcourt is the last boss.

[08:07:47] And let's say they wouldn't have nerfed HP by 5%.

[08:07:50] Then it would have been very likely that Echo does not manage to kill the boss today, even

[08:07:55] though they might have gotten close, but that 5% extra health maybe is preventing them from

[08:07:58] killing it.

[08:07:59] Well, when Liquid wakes up later in our day at 7pm around that, then they would have

[08:08:05] to reset.

[08:08:06] They would be able to re-clear, open up their vault, get those extra items in and

[08:08:11] They basically kill Siliconcourt immediately because they have to strategy down, and they're

[08:08:16] going to be able to do that extra damage that they were missing the day before because

[08:08:19] of that extra gear that they're getting through the reset.

[08:08:23] And that is something that happened once before.

[08:08:26] They didn't end up winning because they ended up extending the AD, which is almost always

[08:08:31] wrong decision to make, obviously in hindsight.

[08:08:34] But that is something that Blizzard is trying very heavily to avoid.

[08:08:38] Yep, I agree.

[08:08:39] So it almost happened in the Sylvanas tier, in Sanctum of Domination, both Ekko and Liquid

[08:08:46] were doing very good progress on Sylvanas, both of them getting the boss very very low

[08:08:50] right before the reset.

[08:08:52] Liquid had an almost kill right before the reset and then they stopped for the day and

[08:08:56] they said okay we're going to go come kill it tomorrow.

[08:08:58] And they did, right?

[08:08:59] They went through their reset, they got the re-clear and then they one shot the

[08:09:01] boss after the re-clear.

[08:09:03] If Ekko hadn't killed it in their first reset toward the end of their raid, then

[08:09:07] They would have woken up with the boss having been dead in Liquid's new reset without even

[08:09:11] having the opportunity to compete in that new reset.

[08:09:14] So boss is dying at the beginning of a reset, it's very awkward.

[08:09:16] It almost happened on Sylvanas, it almost happened on Kahoon.

[08:09:21] Something that Blizzard has to be a little bit sensitive to with the staggered release.

[08:09:24] But if you do push the boss kill back until the weekend then it essentially doesn't

[08:09:29] matter anymore, the difference that that staggered reset makes has a huge impact

[08:09:33] on day one and it diminishes every day until three or four days in.

[08:09:36] essentially zero. I don't think, as long as Anzac dies in the upcoming reset, I don't think it's

[08:09:41] going to matter at all, right? If it dies Sunday, Monday, or Tuesday, it's completely fine. It's,

[08:09:45] if that nightmare scenario where Silicon Court continues to be hard, so the nightmare scenario

[08:09:50] would be, um, re-clear on Tuesday for Liquid, Wednesday for Echo, one day of progress on

[08:09:55] Silicon Court takes us to like, you know, Wednesday slash Thursday, and then if Anzac's

[08:09:58] really hard and takes seven days to kill, then you're looking at killing on next Wednesday,

[08:10:03] a third reset tier which is a little bit too long historically and puts that awkwardness into play.

[08:10:08] But we'll have to see. Of course it is possible, we don't know exactly when Liquid will call their

[08:10:13] pulling for the day as they prepare to go into their reset and re-clear tomorrow, but it is possible.

[08:10:17] Liquid kills the boss today. They got the boss sub 10%, which is very impressive. It is also

[08:10:21] possible that Ekko kills the boss today. It's not guaranteed by any means, but it could happen.

[08:10:26] Yeah, I do think that Liquid is certainly... Well, I haven't paid attention too much,

[08:10:31] but I watched it a little bit earlier before I got on and I saw that they were taking a short break

[08:10:37] and which means that they want to continue right and it was already 11 p.m for them I mean at this

[08:10:41] point it is yeah it's 15 past 11 right for them yeah um they are nine hours before us

[08:10:48] yes so that is uh this result and they would usually stop around

[08:10:54] like 11 or maybe 11 or so yeah so they do still have some time where they're not like

[08:10:59] super extending their rating hours but their reset is at 10 a.m. their time right so

[08:11:08] and so I don't actually know when the reset is is the reset at 10 I know that they have maintenance

[08:11:12] until 10 tomorrow so it would be good if their reset wasn't until 10 I do think it is okay but I

[08:11:18] might be wrong it's hard to keep track now that we have the e reset versus the in a reset

[08:11:23] have been given hours now because the e resets at six and the in a resets at nine or ten it

[08:11:28] It might be a 10, I thought it was a 9, but I could easily hear on it.

[08:11:31] It could also be later because it's always 12 hours different, right?

[08:11:35] We can just go from there.

[08:11:37] The hours at 6 AM on Wednesday.

[08:11:42] And then 10 would be plus 9, 7 PM, Tuesday.

[08:11:48] That means it's 5 plus 6, 11 hours.

[08:11:51] So do you think it's 9 AM then?

[08:11:54] I thought it was 9 AM.

[08:11:55] Yeah, then I think it's 9.

[08:11:56] I think it's nine.

[08:11:57] In that case, there's a potential,

[08:11:59] there's a potentiality there that they're going to lose

[08:12:01] an hour of their overall reset because the,

[08:12:04] they, it has announced maintenance until 10 a.m.

[08:12:08] Pacific time.

[08:12:09] Also, there are, oh man, there's so much to talk about.

[08:12:12] So there's incoming changes to bosses with the reset

[08:12:16] to talk about.

[08:12:17] And then the reason we're talking so much about

[08:12:19] how much value would you gain from killing Silicon

[08:12:21] Core is because it's important consideration

[08:12:23] because there's other things Echo can do at their time.

[08:12:25] Obviously, they're doing Mythic Plus right now.

[08:12:27] That's not so much help.

[08:12:30] There's a remote control done there.

[08:12:31] So we're going to be fiddling around.

[08:12:33] We lost our TV.

[08:12:36] Lost that extremely important Mythic Plus gameplay.

[08:12:39] Obviously, they're doing Mythic Plus right now.

[08:12:40] I don't think that's so much

[08:12:41] because Mythic Plus is enormous value.

[08:12:42] It's that you can get some gear from it.

[08:12:44] You can finish getting all of your keys done

[08:12:45] for your weekly vault.

[08:12:47] And then that also allows you

[08:12:49] to essentially delay a little bit

[08:12:50] while Scribe and Roger and Potter

[08:12:52] take a look at what Liquid did with the 10% pull,

[08:12:54] Take a look at those end timings.

[08:12:56] Look at whatever changes they're going to need to make now

[08:12:57] that their one tank strategy has been deleted by Blizzard

[08:13:00] because it has, it's been murdered, that's gone,

[08:13:02] you can't do that anymore.

[08:13:03] So things they need to fix,

[08:13:04] they're going to be strategizing doing that.

[08:13:06] They want the players to be getting value while they do.

[08:13:08] Also, there's other things you can do.

[08:13:11] So after you're done with your music plus,

[08:13:13] you're ready to start your raid day,

[08:13:14] you could go spend all of it on Silicon Corp,

[08:13:16] but you could also say it's worthwhile going in

[08:13:18] and killing the first four bosses,

[08:13:19] which are all essentially one shots,

[08:13:21] on a bunch of different alts

[08:13:23] and farm that gear on characters that might be valuable on Azeroth.

[08:13:27] Any other tier I would say that would have a high value.

[08:13:29] This tier, a huge number of alts rotated into the main lockout and can't do that.

[08:13:34] And it's also like an incredibly, I think this is not a remote thing.

[08:13:37] I think somebody who ever is controlling this is, you think they want to show us?

[08:13:43] No.

[08:13:44] I think it's a remote thing.

[08:13:45] I think it's a remote thing.

[08:13:46] But I don't know if I know how to use it.

[08:13:47] You get it, I try.

[08:13:50] Yeah, yeah. Mitch, help! Help! Okay, we can't we can't see anything. We have, okay, our TVs are broken. Mitch is gonna come fix things while we talk about the value of Mythic Splits.

[08:14:08] It's very interesting because especially this tier, we have the first four bosses be one.

[08:14:16] We have the first four bosses all wear one shot and they are very easy in comparison to the 15 and 6 boss obviously.

[08:14:23] My ineptitude has been made up for by Mitch's confidence.

[08:14:26] Excellent, thank you.

[08:14:28] How do you know it's work?

[08:14:31] It's very awesome.

[08:14:32] I looked at it and I was like, I know what to do here.

[08:14:35] Well, the thing is, it's easy to make fun of us, but this is a very complicated audiovisual setup to make us have all of our fees.

[08:14:42] There's a lot of screens.

[08:14:43] There's a lot of screens, there's a lot of wires. I'm terrified I'm going to break something and the entire production goes down.

[08:14:47] Mitch walks in, pushes one button and it's fixed.

[08:14:52] Then he dropped their remote. I thought that was a bit much, Mitch.

[08:14:55] Yeah, you guys are...

[08:14:57] Well, anyway...

[08:14:58] Fetik!

[08:14:59] Done with you.

[08:15:00] Yeah, you call us names, right?

[08:15:01] Yeah.

[08:15:02] At least stop doing it a bit much.

[08:15:04] Anyway, so I do think killing the first bosses does make sense not only for the loot from the bosses, but also from the vault as well.

[08:15:13] And interestingly enough, this is actually something that a bunch of normal mythic guilds did, like average mythic guilds that I don't know, wait 2-3 days a week, that have seen how difficult Brute Twister and Kvesa was.

[08:15:29] was they decided to not do mythic normally they did mythic splits they

[08:15:36] actually ended up killing four bosses with their because a lot of guilds have

[08:15:41] one main alt so like two characters in total and then you do heroic splits and

[08:15:46] normal splits to get your tier set faster which is a very common thing even

[08:15:51] like my guild does it which is only a three-day rating guild and they decided

[08:15:56] to do mythic splits which because they knew they're not gonna be able to

[08:15:59] kill Brute Twister anyway and they won't have much time to in progress on it either

[08:16:03] if they still want to do Heroic Splits so yeah I think that's a very interesting

[08:16:07] decision to make. Yeah so we talk a lot about a difficulty curve in raids where

[08:16:12] you go you know one pull on the first boss, ten on the second, twenty on the

[08:16:16] third, fifty on the fourth, a hundred on the fifth, two hundred on the last right.

[08:16:20] This wasn't so much a difficulty curve as a difficulty cliff. With the top

[08:16:24] guilds going one pull, one pull, one pull, two hundred pulls and those two

[08:16:28] 100 pulls were very difficult with extraordinarily degenerate comps.

[08:16:32] Three tanking, double blood death knight tanking, three healing, single tanking, single tanking

[08:16:37] again.

[08:16:38] So it's a very, very difficult jump, but the first four bosses are relatively easy, particularly

[08:16:43] for these top kills.

[08:16:44] They could easily kill them several more times with alt groups if they still have

[08:16:47] alts that are worth gearing that didn't get saved already to the enormous number

[08:16:52] of characters that got used in this first lockout to meet the demands of Brutwister

[08:16:56] and Kaveza.

[08:16:57] So it'll be interesting to see. I'm sure that they're working on spreadsheets to see if that's worthwhile.

[08:17:00] I would expect to see some Mythic Splits done because they have a huge number of

[08:17:05] alts that are kind of garbage alts used just for splits. They could put together Mythic Splits

[08:17:09] just for the sake of those couple of people who have mains that did not do Mythic Progress this

[08:17:14] week. You know, there are a couple players that didn't see any progress on any of their

[08:17:18] characters including mains and they might say, okay, maybe we do want that character in.

[08:17:22] Let's send a split for that and we can bring in some garbage alts to do it.

[08:17:25] We also have mythic changes coming in next week with Hoptix's already announced a Brew Twister.

[08:17:31] Enormous nerfs, right? So very, very substantial nerfs reducing the sides of the healing shield.

[08:17:36] Most likely in an attempt to stop people from needing to 3 heal.

[08:17:40] And huge reductions in the health of the adds reducing the total AoE requirement.

[08:17:44] I quickly need to drop you because that is so funny. Like, hopeful.

[08:17:48] I know he's just changing his talents, but they started the key.

[08:17:53] He walks into the first pool, he ends up dying, releases, walks out of the dungeon, and I'm like,

[08:17:58] this is my, this is my everyday part. I'm just gonna leave. It's like, died in the first pool

[08:18:04] during my, during my cooldowns. I'm out of here. But now he's just reaching his tail.

[08:18:10] Brutus they're picking up some very significant nerfs in order to try to fix that three heal

[08:18:14] situation and reduce the overall like massive AoE damage requirement. Interestingly, Kha'Vezah

[08:18:19] not getting any changes the gear you acquire will help you kill her faster potentially without

[08:18:24] one tanking but i'm i'm shocked that they didn't do something to fix the one tanking and a health

[08:18:28] reduction to make her more killable for everyone else yeah so i mean yeah i don't know like i

[08:18:34] think one of the biggest issues with uh damage check bosses is that of course they want to make

[08:18:40] it killable for the first kill because if it's unkillable it's just really boring to watch

[08:18:44] And they want to make it like super close and they also need to add like mechanical difficulties to it because just the damage check is obviously not gonna hold them back

[08:18:53] But the thing with those bosses is

[08:18:56] if the damage check is the interesting part of the boss then

[08:19:01] Nerfing it for the rest of the guilds means okay. Well now the damage check is not difficult anymore

[08:19:05] So one of the interesting parts of this boss fight was only interesting for the first and not for everyone else

[08:19:10] So maybe not nerfing it is them saying hey

[08:19:12] We want this also to be a damage check for everyone else

[08:19:15] Maybe without the one tanking ring, but still damage check with two tanking thing

[08:19:20] Which I think could be true, but you also have to argue that the second reset

[08:19:24] I don't think it's necessarily gonna give the other mythic guilds as much gear as

[08:19:29] Grisible first gear guilds had in the first ID, right?

[08:19:32] That is that is a bit longer to to to

[08:19:35] overtake the item level of the top guild

[08:19:37] Yeah, she will. Kaiveza will be naturally nerfed for Liquid Method, Echo, and Hotpot Heroes.

[08:19:46] By the existence of the reset, they're gonna get 3-5 item level probably from re-clearing

[08:19:50] all of them that their bosses have killed. That'll naturally kind of almost trivialize

[08:19:55] Kaiveza's damage checks for them. They'll be killing her a good 10, 20, 30 seconds

[08:19:58] before the end rate. However, you're absolutely right that won't give every other guild the

[08:20:05] same item level that 30 million splits gave those guilds this week.

[08:20:09] Eventually they'll catch up and all yet.

[08:20:10] I don't know that I worry as much about maintaining the perfectly balanced damage check for non-top

[08:20:16] guilds because it's almost impossible to do, right? Blizzard's being very very careful,

[08:20:20] trying to ensure that these are realistic and yet challenging damage checks for the top guilds

[08:20:23] and that's something they can do because they know exactly how much item level they have,

[08:20:27] exactly what loadouts they're using, and exactly how much damage they're doing as they

[08:20:30] collect their data from each individual boss kill and components of those boss kills in order

[08:20:34] to do slight adjustments to Tevez's health as they did, making it barely but killable

[08:20:39] and similarly with Silkencourt. That's significantly harder to do when you're talking about thousands

[08:20:43] of guilds, right? You can't custom tune the health. And it'll be a different challenge for

[08:20:49] different guilds. I do think that a damage check for the Racial First has to be very customized

[08:20:54] to them. But I think damage check for an average guild can be much easier but still be very hard

[08:21:02] for them. Right but it's gonna depend on the guild right what will be very hard

[08:21:05] for it will. I don't think so. Of course it will. There's a difference in skill that

[08:21:09] massively curving. Yeah it is a big... 10,000 different guilds and what is

[08:21:13] challenging for a 300 guild will be fairly easy for a 200 guild and you

[08:21:18] can't custom do it to those two different. I mean yeah if you're saying the

[08:21:21] difference in a 200 and a 300 guild then yeah but they will eventually get

[08:21:25] more gear and then and there's a buff in the right as well so they will

[08:21:28] overtake it at some point right. Right which I feel like kind of proves my

[08:21:31] point right that the point is that the damage check becomes less of a consideration outside of race

[08:21:37] world first because you can't have a super good challenging and doable damage check outside of

[08:21:42] that circumstance yeah but what i'm saying is that i think uh it should be a damage check for

[08:21:46] the first couple kills that reach the boss for a little while until they can just barely kill it

[08:21:50] because then it's still felt like an damage check and then once then the same thing will happen

[08:21:55] for their guilds that are less skilled because then for them even though they have the buff it

[08:21:59] will still be as difficult as for the previous guilds that killed it because they like what they like in skill they gain through the buff and

[08:22:06] Then eventually they'll be able to kill it because of the buff and then it will just continue. That's true

[08:22:10] Absolutely, it's my like but that that is true regardless of what you do to the boss itself

[08:22:14] No matter no matter how hard the damage check is to start whatever you change that health threshold to will always have that

[08:22:22] Moving threshold of guilds able to kill it because of reduced health or increased gear

[08:22:26] That's always gonna be a thing. There's always gonna be that guild that almost came it can't quite and barely can but almost couldn't

[08:22:31] Unless the nerf the health like too much and then all they have to do survive, right, right?

[08:22:36] Or they get rid of the Enranged, right?

[08:22:38] Yeah, or that thing.

[08:22:39] Yeah, but no changes coming into Mystic High Vezer, which I do find surprising

[08:22:42] I thought they would want to fix the two tank strategy and perhaps offer a small health reduction to compensate it for the upcoming

[08:22:48] week of progress for the guilds looking to potentially clear in that second walkout

[08:22:52] We have yapped for a reasonable duration to introduce the chat to the various things that will be occurring today

[08:22:59] We do have a star forge flashback to go over the events of yesterday, which I

[08:23:05] Don't think that's gonna be

[08:23:09] Let's let's take a look at this highlight video

[08:23:21] 100% again an absolutely crazy

[08:23:29] The boss goes down!

[08:23:38] There we go, look at that!

[08:23:40] That is not okay.

[08:23:42] This is so not okay and the fact that you mentioned it and the fact that you brought it up is also not okay.

[08:23:49] If you or a family member is suffering from League of Legends, there are ways you can get help.

[08:23:54] First off, reaching out to other friends or finding a support group in your area.

[08:23:58] Secondly, installing BattleNet and the World of Warcraft add-on can allow you to get out of that spiral.

[08:24:28] That is that is not okay. I'm so sorry

[08:24:38] Yeah

[08:24:51] It's fine tons of guys have this problem it's not a big deal

[08:25:03] Welcome to

[08:25:08] The game where the points are like healers, they just don't matter.

[08:25:14] Things you can say in a raid that you cannot say in the bedroom.

[08:25:18] Uh, okay, you go do splits with Genji, I'm gonna pull someone else.

[08:25:23] Oh!

[08:25:24] Oh!

[08:25:25] Nagura, same question.

[08:25:29] Can you explain in detail why you failed the last time?

[08:25:32] No!

[08:25:33] If you've never followed the race before, I don't even play World of Warcraft, which

[08:25:37] post money if you do the everything will reset for us in the EU on Wednesday it

[08:25:42] will be Tuesday for the US because they are desynced because yeah we have had an

[08:25:51] enormous $1,000 donation from Minnie's mom I'd love to tell you your son is

[08:26:02] wonderful so much to do oh my goodness I can't even there's a lot of

[08:26:06] overlaps here. I think you were very much right. This is going to be very much an overlap

[08:26:11] overlap phase.

[08:26:12] Yeah, it's a typical production put there to give us some context here is the HP when

[08:26:17] they came out of phase is the amount of HP Kai Bezahat.

[08:26:20] What?

[08:26:21] As we have a data mine secret cutscene, why don't we see this super amazing data mine

[08:26:26] cutscene spoiler?

[08:26:27] Whoa, what is it?

[08:26:29] I wonder.

[08:26:30] It's almost over.

[08:26:35] What's that Sally beans?

[08:26:37] Your ambition was rare, you know.

[08:26:41] Yet despite even betraying your own mother,

[08:26:45] sure you are.

[08:26:48] Oh, not the beans.

[08:26:52] Nothing.

[08:26:54] When did it kick in? Is it like a slow burn?

[08:26:57] Shut up.

[08:26:59] Oh, there it is.

[08:27:02] Oh my.

[08:27:04] Merry Christmas.

[08:27:06] Merry Christmas.

[08:27:07] Hmm.

[08:27:08] You look like you've made a mistake.

[08:27:09] Do you feel like you've made a mistake?

[08:27:13] I'm glad.

[08:27:14] Would you like to take a little break?

[08:27:15] Yeah, let me look it down.

[08:27:16] Alright.

[08:27:17] Take two.

[08:27:18] Oh.

[08:27:19] Oh.

[08:27:20] Oh.

[08:27:21] Oh.

[08:27:22] Oh.

[08:27:23] Oh.

[08:27:24] Oh.

[08:27:25] Oh.

[08:27:26] Oh.

[08:27:27] Oh.

[08:27:28] Oh.

[08:27:29] You're going to spit again?

[08:27:30] No, I will.

[08:27:31] You need to learn to swallow.

[08:27:32] And on that bombshell, we'll bid you a Jew for the night.

[08:27:35] Indeed.

[08:27:36] everyone. I have to administer a spanking.

[08:27:39] Uh, Mitch Sturridge is professionally coming in for you too. We're just laughing.

[08:28:05] Captain, it was so good!

[08:28:09] It was amazing! At the end, we were feeding the beats!

[08:28:16] It was gonna happen, it was like, there needs to be a sound. I was not disappointed.

[08:28:22] Thank you so much. I don't know. This is just incredible. It is cinema.

[08:28:29] The race world first is the best time because of all the you know interesting mechanics and bosses

[08:28:36] die and you're not not no of course they are there are people playing the game yeah that's

[08:28:42] true they do play the game yeah I hear so one thing that is worth taking out of that video

[08:28:47] though was that $1,000 donation by Minnie's mother I heard that I heard that when I was

[08:28:53] not on the cast and I was like oh my god that is literally the nicest thing I can't

[08:29:01] overstate how amazing Vinny's mom is. Vinny's pretty cool too. I mean Vinny's okay. Vinny's all right, Vinny's all right. We have been, we have been raising money for

[08:29:10] Games for Love a phenomenal charity that provides entertainment and distraction

[08:29:15] therapy to children who are hospitalized with you know terrible

[08:29:18] conditions. Everyone in chat and we of course know how valuable it is to

[08:29:23] that play video games for distraction,

[08:29:24] for entertainment, to find joy, to meet new people,

[08:29:26] to find fulfillment in life.

[08:29:27] So really, really great to see Chat engaging so much

[08:29:30] with this wonderful charity.

[08:29:31] We have raised $21,435.69 for charity.

[08:29:35] It's incredible.

[08:29:36] I would just first call it nice.

[08:29:38] That is very nice.

[08:29:40] In earning several Chat incentives as we have gone,

[08:29:44] we currently O-Chat the RC Rumble

[08:29:47] and the Scuffed Cosplay.

[08:29:48] Yesterday we did deliver the,

[08:29:50] who's cast is it anyway.

[08:29:51] We reached scuff cosplay as well.

[08:29:53] We reached scuff cosplay.

[08:29:54] So apparently, according to production,

[08:29:56] we were told yesterday, because MediGon,

[08:29:58] we're talking about this, they have it ready.

[08:30:00] It's cooked.

[08:30:00] It's good to go.

[08:30:01] Whatever scuff cosplay is going to a tail, it's good to go.

[08:30:04] RC Rumble, I'm also interested in.

[08:30:06] A lot of little race cars running around

[08:30:07] with the camera attached, surely without feet

[08:30:09] leading the way.

[08:30:11] And then in just $3,500, we have Raider Portraits,

[08:30:17] the return of.

[08:30:18] What is Raider Portraits?

[08:30:21] some kind of artistic endeavor, the return of Alex Ross.

[08:30:25] Oh my god.

[08:30:26] I do love Alex Ross.

[08:30:28] Everybody loves Alex Ross.

[08:30:30] So I do want to say about the Skafkarspray.

[08:30:32] I had a little bit of an idea because I was standing

[08:30:35] at the player area and they have,

[08:30:37] you can see the player area right now on screen.

[08:30:39] There's two rows and they're like looking at each other.

[08:30:43] And in the middle there's just like kind of this path.

[08:30:46] And I was doing a secret lab interview

[08:30:50] I saw this path and I was like and the players were not there and I was like wow this looks like a runway

[08:30:55] Yeah, and you know there's fashion week coming up as well

[08:30:58] In Italy, so I was like hmm. We should do something about this

[08:31:02] So now maybe the scuff cosplay could be showcased. It could on the runway on the runway

[08:31:08] I've already taken a run on the runway. I saw yeah

[08:31:11] modeling some white canyx walking

[08:31:15] I also need people to be on the side and like cheer, you know and like

[08:31:18] I'm just super worried about what kind of costumes the sculpt cosplay is going to entail.

[08:31:27] I've heard rumors.

[08:31:28] You've heard rumors?

[08:31:29] I haven't heard anything, but I'm excited for it.

[08:31:33] Me too.

[08:31:34] We are still, of course, raising money for Games for Love, and we welcome any and all

[08:31:37] questions or comments or observations from chat.

[08:31:41] Send those donations in.

[08:31:42] We do have a couple anonymous sending in $10 with no comment necessary.

[08:31:47] children help mic drop thank you very much and just a moment ago roxas a friend of mine in stream

[08:31:54] sent in 10 dollars again no comment and children helped easy for them thank you very very much

[08:31:59] keep those donations coming in and we will continue trying to reach these charity goals

[08:32:03] am i hearing a lullaby i'm hearing anything it's low five okay it sounded like some sleeping

[08:32:11] music coming in for those kids you got it is morning time rave just yet i'll have it later

[08:32:20] rave's yeah rave music oh i thought you i thought we were back on the runway except this time

[08:32:25] we're having a great idea so i would not mind a rave but they should have told me before i because

[08:32:33] i could have brought some stuff go on what kind of stuff okay wake up oh no i'm here do you

[08:32:40] You don't hear this.

[08:32:41] I hear it.

[08:32:42] Hey, wake up.

[08:32:43] I mean chat is sleepy chat right now.

[08:32:45] It is fairly early here in Cologne.

[08:32:47] Is that the TeamSpeak poke?

[08:32:49] Yeah.

[08:32:50] The poke from TeamSpeak, which Echo still uses TeamSpeak for all internal guild communications.

[08:32:58] Somewhat antiquated in many people's views, but it's low latency and works relatively

[08:33:02] well anytime they've tried anything else there's been complaints.

[08:33:05] Yeah, people make fun of it, but it's actually very good, certainly much better

[08:33:09] than Discord. Whoa, shots fired. Goodbye to that Discord sponsorship.

[08:33:16] Well, no, but the Discord voice chat, my guild actually is switched to TeamSpeak now as well.

[08:33:25] Interesting, like it's a 3D writing guild, but I personally had a lot of issues, I'm

[08:33:30] not sure, I'm sure there's other people that had issues as well, otherwise we wouldn't

[08:33:33] But I had a hard time hearing some of the calls

[08:33:37] and they were made to do regular rate calls on Discord

[08:33:42] and at some point people got really upset, it's like

[08:33:45] why didn't you do this? We called and then

[08:33:49] I didn't hear anything. No, I did call it, it's like no you didn't

[08:33:53] Yeah I did, no you didn't. At some point we figured out okay sometimes there's

[08:33:58] like multiple people speaking

[08:34:00] and a person that wants to make a call, it just doesn't go through.

[08:34:04] Right.

[08:34:04] Which is a problem with many voice tools, right?

[08:34:08] Because having multiple people speaking at the same time,

[08:34:11] it's very hard to hear them simultaneously.

[08:34:14] And what Discord does, I think, is they'll just have one person that speaks,

[08:34:18] the first person that speaks like louder,

[08:34:20] and anyone else that tries to speak over it is like a little bit lower.

[08:34:23] So it's hard to hear sometimes.

[08:34:25] So we switch to TeamSpeak.

[08:34:26] And that is the main reason why they're also using TeamSpeak

[08:34:29] for the quality of voice LoMAs and the possibility of assigning different kinds of push-to-talk

[08:34:37] buttons to speak to only certain players.

[08:34:40] Internal channels.

[08:34:41] Internal channels, yeah.

[08:34:42] Not at all toxic.

[08:34:44] You also can set up priority speaker stuff.

[08:34:46] True.

[08:34:47] But now we sound like we're endorsing TeamSpeak, sponsored by them, which is not the case.

[08:34:52] It's just the program that you use.

[08:34:53] I don't care about the companies that make these.

[08:34:56] I'm just stating the truth.

[08:34:59] Yeah, any time that people hear for the first time that Echo uses seems to be because usually a Raid's Dibra because it's such an old program, but it works for them, it works well, and that is indeed what they use.

[08:35:08] We are currently farming with a plus. Everyone in the raid farming with a plus except Scripe, Pot and Roger, who don't need to farm because they're all benched to work on figuring out the Raid are trying to figure out what they're going to be doing for the rest of the day.

[08:35:20] And we are also speculating, do you go in and try to kill the Silken Court or do you go do some of the splits, a combination of both?

[08:35:26] Neither of us, I think, believe Killing Sildencourt would have a huge impact on the race, unless they did it now.

[08:35:34] Getting 6 or 7 hours on Ancerwreck would be huge, but they're not going to kill it now. It would take the whole day to do if they do it.

[08:35:40] Yeah, certainly. I mean, Liquid still having their best try at 9.8%, I'm not sure if they're still rating.

[08:35:47] Presumably still, probably will, for a little while longer. Okay, they are still rating, so they are trying to kill it,

[08:35:53] And I think they think that it's killable, but it certainly would make sense, or it's killable for them in this moment, like you know what I mean?

[08:36:04] I know what you mean. A kill is within the realm of possibility within the next hour, which is certainly the case.

[08:36:12] The 10% full they had, they had lots of people dead for quite a long time. The boss is killable.

[08:36:16] We've had an interesting spread of bosses going from the first four, which were largely relevant,

[08:36:20] to a very tight AoE DPS check, to a very tight single target DPS check, and now with this

[08:36:27] 5% nerf, I don't even know that I would call Silicon Core that type of a DPS check, it's

[08:36:31] an extraordinarily tight coordination check now. If you can get through the very difficult

[08:36:37] coordination of the fight with everyone alive, then it's just going to flop I think without

[08:36:42] too much concern about the DPS check because we also saw the way that the enrage works

[08:36:46] as far as we can tell is exactly there is no what no enrage in any of the phases except once you

[08:36:53] break the second shield coming out of the second inhibition you have a three minute timer before

[08:36:57] the bosses buff themselves by 10 billion percent and start chasing you down and killing you

[08:37:03] but that's fairly kindable and lasts kind of a long time it's not a everyone gets hit with a

[08:37:08] one hit enrage like kiveza had it's a hard enrage like back in vanilla where the boss

[08:37:14] just does a lot more melee damage and wanders around one shotting your people, which means

[08:37:17] that you can linger for a long time, like 20, 30, 40 seconds in that heart and rage,

[08:37:22] potentially, you know, giving you that extra window in which to kill the boss. I think that

[08:37:26] it's very, very killable if you get to that point with everyone alive.

[08:37:30] I'm also glad that it isn't a really tight

[08:37:33] damage check because of the way the shield intention works, because what I've heard,

[08:37:38] and when I heard this, I was like, oh no, like they delayed breaking the shields sometimes

[08:37:43] to get like better cooldown timings and I was like, oh no I do not want that to be true.

[08:37:49] Well it is true but Blizzard this time saw that coming right so famously on Kelthazad there was

[08:37:54] no punishment preventing you from just lingering in a phase for as long as you wanted so you could

[08:37:57] just get your cooldown timings reset every time which had a huge impact on the plate. This boss

[08:38:01] not having an overall from start to finish and rage timer does invite that kind of manipulation

[08:38:07] of the shield phases. However, Blizzard saw that coming to a certain degree. During the field

[08:38:13] shield phase, every few seconds, the boss pulses with damage, applying a debuff, increasing your

[08:38:18] damage from subsequent pulses. That will eventually scale out of control. Yesterday,

[08:38:22] Echo's strategy at least was to just get three pulses and then get the heck out of dodge once

[08:38:27] they got that fourth pulse unexpectedly. They did wipe every time. You could plan for it and

[08:38:33] have extra cooldowns ready to go and linger in there for longer to get more cooldowns back,

[08:38:36] But you can't do it and definitely it's gonna give you like a few extra seconds at most

[08:38:40] So not something that's infinitely

[08:38:43] Exploitable is would that be the wrong word?

[08:38:45] Manageable in a way to manipulate the fight. Maybe we're avoiding that exploit word

[08:38:51] You can't take advantage of the shield phase to completely, you know

[08:38:55] It's linger there forever getting your cooldowns back

[08:38:57] You have to get out eventually also that first intermission very difficult because every time she pulls the damage

[08:39:01] She also creates orbs and every round of orbs is increasingly difficult to soak

[08:39:05] Well, if you have a 10 to 20% error rate on each round of orbs, every extra round of orbs make it that much more likely that you're going to eventually have a mistake.

[08:39:13] And there's so many orbs that making a mistake, missing one orb, results in everyone taking an extra stack, which massively increases the difficulty of soaking more.

[08:39:20] So it does have time limits in that sense to push you out of the intermission, which I think is good foresight on Blizzard Spark.

[08:39:28] definitely. It's still, and especially because it's not like a super big damage

[08:39:33] check anyway anymore in the last phase they don't necessarily have to worry

[08:39:36] about it too much other than maybe defensive cooldowns which is something

[08:39:39] that we've seen as well in the past. Not just waiting for offenses but also like

[08:39:43] those defensive like longer cooldowns which we don't have too many of at the

[08:39:47] moment that are like super super important I guess so that wouldn't

[08:39:50] necessarily be the case but yeah I do like that that consideration because

[08:39:56] people were very angry when we had time to do a donation where multiple bosses

[08:40:01] were like that we're yet to wait yeah yeah none of that has happened ever

[08:40:06] since at least not as severe as it was back then so definitely a little bit

[08:40:09] happier as iric does go down soon for this group here that we're watching

[08:40:13] they're plus two in this plus 10 vault also plus two the the siege earlier so

[08:40:19] definitely looks like they're having a very easy time and of course they

[08:40:23] They also have a lot of item level, and they're also very good players.

[08:40:26] We have Mirrors in the group, right, multi-time MDI champion, no problem, and this is a full

[08:40:31] group of Echo players.

[08:40:32] We had some other groups going through that were recruiting keys from helpers fairly often,

[08:40:37] which does sometimes cause a few extra problems if you don't have a full Echo group, but

[08:40:41] you would expect the Echo groups to blast through these.

[08:40:44] They're farming these plus 10s, filling up their vault, getting some extra loot,

[08:40:47] which this tier has been insane for splits, right?

[08:40:49] bosses have such demanding DPS requirements and demanding comp requirements that we've

[08:40:53] seen more splits this tier than I think we've seen since Jailer which was an absurd tier

[08:40:59] for splits with the way tier worked and you could essentially just constantly rotate more

[08:41:04] people in to get more tier and was also the longest tier ever in terms of pull count.

[08:41:09] This tier I think may be in second place after Zephyr in terms of being the second

[08:41:16] second-largest pull count of all of these raids in modern Mausoleum, please.

[08:41:23] Yeah, we're still going to have to see how long Anzirect is going to be, of course,

[08:41:29] to have any pulls, but presumably it's going to be a difficult boss, and it's

[08:41:34] going to take a couple of days. Hopefully not too long, so we end up with

[08:41:40] this reset situation that we talked about, but I do think that Blister is

[08:41:44] gonna keep an eye on it and they're gonna do their best for that to not happen.

[08:41:48] We also don't want them to under tune it but that is also something that Blizzard has been

[08:41:53] worried about in the past and nowadays what they do is they, if they're not sure about

[08:41:57] something, about tuning, then they're just gonna over tune it, give it too much HP

[08:42:03] initially and then they'll nerf it and whatever they see, okay, now we know okay they're

[08:42:09] gonna be doing so and so much damage and this is like the right number.

[08:42:12] And some people always get angry about these tuning changes that happen mid-race.

[08:42:18] But I do think we have to give some credit to Blizzard here and just state how incredibly

[08:42:23] difficult it is to actually tune numbers correctly, like perfectly correctly beforehand.

[08:42:30] So I wouldn't expect them to do that before even seeing anything, right?

[08:42:34] It's just so, so, so hard to do that.

[08:42:36] I completely agree.

[08:42:37] is an extraordinarily difficult game to balance and tune bosses for because you don't know whether

[08:42:43] your internal team has correctly identified every single potential combination of loadouts available

[08:42:48] from the enormous number of different layered systems from which you can obtain power in this game.

[08:42:53] So you can't know what the teams are going to do. So Blizzard does use their performance on

[08:42:58] earlier bosses to say, okay, so this is the kind of damage they can get in daily. This is the

[08:43:01] kind of damage they can get in cleave. This is the kind of damage they can do in single target,

[08:43:03] And then they tweak the bosses. And I think that's completely fine. So well as it's done judiciously at good timings

[08:43:09] Yeah, which to Blizzard's credit has been the case this time around, right?

[08:43:11] They they adjusted Kaiveza's health, but it was at a point where no one was possibly near a kill anyway

[08:43:17] So it didn't have any impact just basically tweaking it just enough to make it

[08:43:21] Significantly challenging for the world first guilds to get the kill without being impossible

[08:43:25] And I think that they've done a good job with that. So I think no criticism there

[08:43:29] I think that's the best you can do when it's that hard to

[08:43:33] preemptively tune it before the race even releases not knowing what comp they're gonna use how much damage those comps are gonna do how these

[08:43:39] Different synergistic effects are gonna work together

[08:43:41] And you always have the guilds finding weird and interesting things for example on Kavesa both Ryzen and Mirra is we're double potting

[08:43:48] The DPS with this new potion throwing him at your DPS groups in order to give him extra primary stat right before the augmentation of

[08:43:54] started blasting even mine onto them so you have this creative use of all of the game mechanics that

[08:44:00] can cause very high difficulty anticipating how much damage they're going to do. Even in one tanking

[08:44:06] strut I very highly doubt that Blizzard was anticipating that to happen as well so yeah.

[08:44:12] And the fact that they still managed to like that they were like standing their ground

[08:44:18] with the message saying okay we think you can do this and it ended up being true

[08:44:23] while some of us were even doubting it, we were like, are they sure this is killable?

[08:44:28] So that is something that you gotta give them some credit for

[08:44:31] and I hope that there's gonna be good tuning for Anstrak as well of course.

[08:44:35] Although I wonder, I mean, credit to Blizzard for sending the ground saying we think this is

[08:44:39] killable and they're doing it, similarly on Brute Twister they did, however I wonder if

[08:44:43] if you would consider that to be as much a triumph considering that in order to take

[08:44:47] down the Brute Twister everyone three healed it and in order to take down Krabbeza everyone

[08:44:51] one tank that is actually as large as the success when the only reason they were able to meet these

[08:44:55] very certain damage checks were through some fairly degenerate comps. Yeah, it's difficult. I personally

[08:45:01] like when there's some some crazy things like that happening like for example two healing

[08:45:08] of Rhygalon or two healing of Star Ogre or something like that. Four healing Star Ogre.

[08:45:15] a Shara too, I think it's always like I know that it's not supposed to be like this but as long

[08:45:23] as only the race will first skills are doing it I think it's okay and it creates these like crazy

[08:45:29] scenarios and it also gives some hype to the race like right when people are there one tanking it

[08:45:34] wow and then they check out how they do it and of course it's not easy to one-thack right you

[08:45:38] have to do it choose Ankhton and you have to do better rest it has to be perfect timings

[08:45:42] and it's still very difficult and not something that like any other guilds will

[08:45:47] probably try to replicate especially because you can't use battle rushes for anything

[08:45:50] out of an end tank which makes it infinitely harder. So I do think that some of these

[08:45:54] situations are okay but yeah definitely first serve sure is the first rather than like

[08:46:00] a normal strategy for all the other guilds hopefully. But yeah I do think that the only

[08:46:06] thing that maybe has caused some issues is the one tank versus two tank thing on

[08:46:11] Silicon Court because the guilds like I haven't looked at how much time each

[08:46:16] guild spent with the one tanking strategy but you could argue okay the

[08:46:19] guild that spent more time one tanking Silicon Court would have lost more to

[08:46:25] that strategy well if they were too tanked it they might have gotten further

[08:46:28] into progressing the fight and they didn't know that the boss is gonna get

[08:46:32] changed so they they basically wasted time with this shot yeah obviously

[08:46:36] liquid after killing Kaiveza the other night did go dark. Yeah we don't know what it did.

[08:46:43] Some number of 30 to 50 pulls offline. We don't know what they were doing, what strategies

[08:46:47] they were using. But when they were playing I think they were for the most part exclusively

[08:46:52] using two tank. The hotfix came in relatively early I believe into their raid day and they

[08:46:58] were ready for that. Echo spent maybe a third to a half of yesterday two tanking

[08:47:03] and then swap to the one tank for the second half of the raid day.

[08:47:06] And I think you're right that if that had a big impact, you could argue that that's slightly disadvantageous.

[08:47:13] But I don't think it's actually relevant, right?

[08:47:14] The main challenge of this fight is the coordination necessary to deal with all of the overlaps

[08:47:19] and so-called the orbs and get everything resolved.

[08:47:21] And having one or two tanks didn't really impact it that much.

[08:47:24] In fact, the reason why they started one tank wasn't even necessarily because they needed to for the DPS check.

[08:47:31] just because they could and it didn't really change anything because his boss's tank damage profile was so interesting even on the pulls where they were

[08:47:36] Two tanking we had deaths because that debuff lasted a minute

[08:47:38] It was difficult to swap and the tank that wasn't primarily taking the tanking the poison bolts from the spider

[08:47:44] Which constantly keep origin was taking significantly less damage than almost half of the rest of the raid

[08:47:49] Right, there's just not very much tank damage

[08:47:52] So unlike Kaivesa which was difficult to one tank constantly hitting you with overwhelming damage

[08:47:57] that caused you to die once per phase and even outside of that

[08:48:00] You know lethal damage doing extensive damage sufficient to frequently kill the solo tank right?

[08:48:06] She hit really really hard if you only use one thing for whatever reason the silken core just didn't do very much think damage

[08:48:12] It was just a fairly trivial to do

[08:48:14] Normally you wouldn't do it to generate a comp like go to a one-tank tank until you thought you had to to meet a DPS check

[08:48:19] And you've progressed to the point where it was reasonable to do that

[08:48:21] But in this case, I don't really think solo tanking had very much of an impact on Echo's overall progress

[08:48:27] So I think that Blizzard's done a very admirable job of dealing with all of the timing issues that arise when you're trying to tweak fights just a little bit to make them killable, but barely I don't think there's any criticism to offer there.

[08:48:39] We do. I was talking earlier about my prediction that this man to being the most total pulled raid since the jailer tier preheat tells me he has this. I'm sorry, Mitch.

[08:48:50] Also, AKA Prey tells me he has a spreadsheet of modern rating history since Haimal of last boss

[08:48:58] poll count. Oh, this is for everything. So total polls over there on the right, 428th thus far for

[08:49:04] Nerober Palace, 839th for Amidstil, 276th for Aperus. So the most was Antorus. No, that's

[08:49:14] Two Sargeras. Two Sargeras is 1,248, then 1,200 Sepelker, we're not anywhere near that

[08:49:21] 1,200 mark yet in Maribor pilots, with three bosses in a row taking multiple hundreds.

[08:49:26] This is so interesting. I didn't know that Halphazedadel took so long.

[08:49:31] I didn't know all of this either. I knew that, because that's when I was still

[08:49:36] competing, and I knew that like that race Halphazedadel took longer than anything

[08:49:40] at than before. But then afterwards when I stepped Racer first, all of these other raids came out

[08:49:46] and I thought they were like way more pulls than half fire but it wasn't actually that far off.

[08:49:51] Yeah this is fascinating. Yeah I love this graphic. I want to look at this much longer. Leave it up.

[08:49:58] Yeah it's interesting. Two of Sogaras, I think we all knew how many pulls that was

[08:50:04] but partially it was because Killjaiden was actually like unkillable for quite a while.

[08:50:10] The classic mathematically impossible meme where George actually not so much mathematically

[08:50:16] impossible as just mechanically impossible which is crazy right yeah I wonder okay do

[08:50:23] you think if you would take today's racial first skills put them back to unnerved kill

[08:50:30] Jayden could they kill it I don't I'm not saying killing it but would it be maybe more

[08:50:34] likely what they have gotten further so I do think that the teams of today have pushed

[08:50:39] each other into this hyper competitive area where they get better and better every tier.

[08:50:43] They are significantly better than they were.

[08:50:45] The race world first has resulted in the ability to give players a little bit of an income

[08:50:49] and that recruits more talented players.

[08:50:51] So I think the teams overall have a slightly higher skill level and significantly better

[08:50:55] officer teams that are creating strats and guiding the fields through right.

[08:50:59] I'm not flaming the previous ones, it's just the nature of competition has worked

[08:51:04] to make the team significantly better.

[08:51:05] I still don't know if Kil'Jayden would have worked, right?

[08:51:07] I remember watching the video about just timings, and that was absurd.

[08:51:10] It was pretty...

[08:51:11] It was brutally, absurdly, ridiculously impossible, and I'm not sure that anything would have

[08:51:17] changed that from these teams.

[08:51:20] A huge portion of the thing that makes the teams better now than before isn't really

[08:51:24] so much player skill, which I would argue has only marginally gone up as your average

[08:51:28] skill level has gone up.

[08:51:29] We're back on Spotify on our TV.

[08:51:31] What is...

[08:51:32] Don't worry.

[08:51:33] You need to pick it.

[08:51:34] You need to pick it.

[08:51:35] Yeah, we need HDMI1.

[08:51:36] Okay, well done.

[08:51:37] I think average player skill is probably increased by, you know, a few percentage points, but the average

[08:51:42] outside raid leader and officer skill strategy building in weak war development has increased by like a thousand fold. Yeah. Oh

[08:51:49] My god, what is happening? You turned on Spotify

[08:51:53] It's not a raven here. Our speakers are blasting music

[08:51:59] I'll just mute it.

[08:52:07] We fixed it.

[08:52:08] Oh my god, it's still going on.

[08:52:11] It's playing music.

[08:52:13] It's like it popped up on Spotify and then started playing.

[08:52:16] I don't know what that said.

[08:52:17] Every 20 minutes, it comes up on Spotify.

[08:52:22] It just starts playing so hard.

[08:52:24] There's somebody controlling this.

[08:52:26] There's ghosts in the machines there.

[08:52:31] We didn't touch anything.

[08:52:33] I swear it just happened twice.

[08:52:35] twice it just pops up with Spotify it's like launching it's it's I think it's

[08:52:39] changing to like another port maybe we're spotify not here okay I'm so

[08:52:49] confused yeah just mute the TV you're back there she might want and we're

[08:52:53] chilling I'm muted when I leave smart just to troll them just as much as we

[08:52:59] got told. Funktionikvukvar. Interesting. Thank you. That was very helpful. Alright, so yeah,

[08:53:30] this is a fascinating spreadsheet. Shout out to GronForce for creating it. That's really

[08:53:34] really cool. I love seeing this. So I'm way off, right? It's easy to say, okay,

[08:53:40] These last three bosses have been really really hard, but it turns out in retrospect lots of

[08:53:44] other bosses were hard, other tiers were hard because they had other bosses that were hard

[08:53:49] earlier than just the fifth boss, right?

[08:53:51] This is a very rare tier for so many bosses in order to get one shot.

[08:53:55] Also there's a lot of, there's not a lot of bosses, I mean, now that I look at

[08:53:58] Hellfire, I sit down, there's, there were 12 bosses, so some early bosses taking

[08:54:04] 20 pulls, like they'll add that up really quickly, right?

[08:54:06] Right, right.

[08:54:07] 19 pull boss I think in Hellfire was Gore Fiend.

[08:54:10] And then so 12.

[08:54:12] No, 46 was Gore Fiend.

[08:54:13] 19, 11, 11 in Subble Gear.

[08:54:15] But we still have a lot of room to climb, right?

[08:54:18] So, Silicon Court currently at 169-ish pulls for Liquid.

[08:54:23] We don't know which guild will kill it first

[08:54:25] and how many pulls that will be,

[08:54:26] but I think we can comfortably say 150 plus even for Echo.

[08:54:29] And then the last boss, a huge enigma right now.

[08:54:32] I just saw Halondra there.

[08:54:35] I just sounded like 358 number in this video.

[08:54:38] Yeah, Halongrass was the tremendous loss of the tier.

[08:54:40] I miss Halongrass.

[08:54:42] Nobody misses Halongrass.

[08:54:43] I do.

[08:54:44] Viewers miss Halongrass.

[08:54:45] Players do not miss Halongrass.

[08:54:48] I love you.

[08:54:48] Do you have a prediction as to the last boss for Narrow Belfast?

[08:54:52] OK.

[08:54:53] I think the last boss.

[08:54:53] Because that will determine how high we go.

[08:54:55] Yeah, I think the last boss is going to be,

[08:54:58] I think it's more than 300.

[08:55:01] Me too.

[08:55:02] but I don't think it's more than 400.

[08:55:05] You're not kind of...

[08:55:08] Well, I do think that the pull can't always just...

[08:55:10] It also depends on the difficulty.

[08:55:12] Like, if phase one is the most difficult, which I don't want it to be,

[08:55:15] then the pull can't will be higher.

[08:55:17] Yeah, if the phase one is difficult to get through,

[08:55:19] then you have very fast wipes, and you stack up really quickly

[08:55:22] through a couple hundred pulls.

[08:55:23] But if it's not, and there's some kind of like last phase

[08:55:26] that we don't know very much about, not saying necessarily mythic phase,

[08:55:29] although there could be,

[08:55:30] But also they've had a good job recently of just having last phases be kind of

[08:55:35] ambiguous and enigmatic even in the dungeon journal and doesn't play out the way you thought.

[08:55:39] If that's hard, that can absolutely add a lot of pulls trying to get to that point and progress through it.

[08:55:45] All speculation at the moment, we're at 428 total pulls thus far.

[08:55:49] So right in kind of the average range of total raid pull counts,

[08:55:53] but we still have two bosses left to die, both Silkencourt and Queen Ancerac.

[08:56:00] This is one of the rare tiers, however, where you may not even see the last boss until week 2. That does not happen very often.

[08:56:08] Yeah, that is definitely out of the ordinary. And one thing that we talked about as well is this whole potential secret phase.

[08:56:18] To be fair, I don't think, for the race, it's obviously really high for the viewers and for the players to see a secret phase.

[08:56:25] But I don't think just a secret phase existing makes the boss more or less difficult for a race.

[08:56:32] Because the last boss on Mythic is so different to the heroic version of the boss

[08:56:38] that you could argue that every phase is like a secret phase in that regard.

[08:56:43] I think that's a really good point. The last boss is typically so very different

[08:56:46] and usually in recent history untested to the point where you just have no idea what's going to happen

[08:56:51] happen and it is an entire secret phase. We were talking earlier about Blizzard having

[08:56:55] done such a good job in recent years of slightly tweaking boss health in order to make it killable

[08:57:01] but only barely. At times it doesn't impact the race overall, although there have been

[08:57:05] times when that has happened somewhat egregiously. I was wondering your thoughts about how likely

[08:57:11] it is that that will happen, because you said that when you were saying hope on

[08:57:14] spec is not too easy and isn't an easy damage check. What if, however, Blizzard doesn't

[08:57:19] anticipate how hard the earlier bosses are, think that you were able to get to

[08:57:23] Unstruck this week and tune it like a Sylvanas or a Gahoon or a Jaina or most

[08:57:27] other bosses which do end up typically being tuned in such a way that they are

[08:57:31] just barely with perfect gameplay killable week one and instead we're

[08:57:36] going into a second reset which Blizzard probably doesn't want to go into a

[08:57:39] third, may be making them less likely to be change it and result in

[08:57:43] getting to Unstruck with five, six, seven extra item level from the reset

[08:57:46] And it turning into a relatively easy damage check compared to the earlier bosses of the tier because it's a week 2 boss instead of a week 1 boss

[08:57:54] I mean if that would have been the case then they would have

[08:58:00] Just or they can still buff it now, right? They can still on the reset they can say oh

[08:58:05] Like 5% more HP and this and that

[08:58:08] But would they would they would the fear that that might push it over into like a Wednesday kill?

[08:58:13] Then they can still adjust it back, like I think they would still like overdo it

[08:58:16] But then we're talking about like tuning it up for the beginning of the week and then down for the end of the week

[08:58:21] And we're becoming much more likely that it's gonna have an inordinate impact on the race, right?

[08:58:25] If they tune it up for the beginning of the week and it's hard and the guilds are both like banging their head against it

[08:58:29] And then they change it

[08:58:31] I think what they would do is they would increase like maybe something like the overall health initially

[08:58:38] Or something that's related to I don't know like phase one or whatever

[08:58:41] And then once the guilds progress through the fight and they see oh we might get too close to the reset

[08:58:48] Then they can nerve something specifically to the face that they haven't reached yet or the face that they're currently in and then say

[08:58:55] Okay, well, I guess we're just gonna make the last phase easier than what we wanted it to be

[08:59:00] To prevent that from happening, which I think that's very dangerous. It is very dangerous

[08:59:06] I think I'd rather than the boss dying

[08:59:09] in like on like Wednesday I still think I agree it's significantly better than

[08:59:14] a dying right on the reset right that's horrible but I think it would be better

[08:59:18] for the to just trust the mechanical difficulty of the boss to make it a

[08:59:21] reasonable challenge and not try to make it entirely true if you're adjusting

[08:59:25] the boss to be barely killable with week two gear because you thought they

[08:59:29] were gonna get to week one and they didn't and then you're dealing with

[08:59:31] this whole issue of okay we want to make sure it's on a reset kill so we're

[08:59:33] going up and down that's going to that's very dangerously gonna impact

[08:59:36] progression and it might be better to just say okay however easy the DPS check

[08:59:40] is however easy is what it is you have to progress through mechanically and

[08:59:44] made the best skill to win right instead of instead of trying to make a

[08:59:47] mechanical challenge and a DPS check that has to be monitored in the way that

[08:59:51] Kaiveza was you wouldn't want tuning like what happened on Kaiveza to happen

[08:59:54] on an end boss in the middle of a week to resulting in you know an outrage

[08:59:58] from whichever fans felt that they were more injured by the timing of those

[09:00:02] changes yeah I mean you are right I think and even if the boss would not be

[09:00:08] like a super tight DPS check well I guess I don't want to talk about a DPS

[09:00:14] check only it's also other things that are gonna be a lot easier with more gear

[09:00:18] right it's not just everything is also the incoming damage that matters as

[09:00:23] well the more you have the less of a healing check bosses are as well of

[09:00:26] course so yeah relying purely on mechanics still even though even though I think that

[09:00:33] is more interesting than having like small little survivability and damage checks

[09:00:37] everywhere because I do like like mechanical mechanically difficult bosses

[09:00:42] then again that's always it can also be like a double-edged sword because at

[09:00:47] some point mechanic is so difficult that it just becomes frustrating again

[09:00:50] halloundrous type bosses or it's pre-nerved tindrel where you only have

[09:00:54] like a second to soak a bunch of seeds and if you don't you just have a full

[09:00:59] red wipe right that is also just too harsh and also at some point just not

[09:01:03] enjoyable anymore not even for the race of our first skills just a moment ago

[09:01:06] you're talking how much you love to London's I said I missed how long

[09:01:12] this reminds me of yesterday they served what were they called those

[09:01:17] weird big raviolis. Some kind of crispy pancakes they called it. Which is weird to me. Pancakes

[09:01:26] are like sweet bread or something. Yesterday they served these folded over ravioli type

[09:01:33] things stuffed with cheese and marinara and the girls said oh crispy pancakes I love

[09:01:38] crispy pancakes although when I think about it they're actually really disgusting. I haven't

[09:01:41] eaten them since I was a kid. Like the instant trigger of the happiness you experience

[09:01:45] from your five versus your adult reaction to the idea of like process cheese and whatnot

[09:01:50] is exactly what happened with the laundry.

[09:01:52] You're like, oh, I love the laundry, but actually it really kind of sucked.

[09:01:55] Yeah.

[09:01:56] This is very true.

[09:01:57] And it happened real fast.

[09:01:58] It did.

[09:01:59] Like she said those seamlessly, I love those, but they're actually so disgusting.

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[09:03:35] What?

[09:03:35] Yeah.

[09:03:51] Yeah, you're right.

[09:03:52] I'm pretty fine.

[09:03:53] No, never.

[09:03:54] That's right.

[09:03:55] Perfect, over.

[09:04:01] Okay.

[09:04:02] Line up in.

[09:04:03] Thank you.

[09:04:04] Alright, well, we need a lot of space here, so...

[09:04:06] Yeah, just play the space code.

[09:04:09] What was the front of us?

[09:04:12] I think that's the front.

[09:04:23] Thanks.

[09:04:25] I'd be honest, I'm fine.

[09:04:26] Don't lie, Mini.

[09:04:27] Oh, Mini.

[09:04:28] Fine.

[09:04:32] Yeah, I'm hard to clear.

[09:04:38] It's a kill boss

[09:04:40] Yeah

[09:04:41] That's a drill

[09:04:42] Oh look

[09:04:43] We're doing machines

[09:04:45] Actually

[09:04:47] We're doing amplest, they don't have amplest

[09:04:50] So

[09:04:51] We're winning

[09:04:52] Ah

[09:04:53] Oh my god

[09:04:54] We're fine, we're fine

[09:04:56] I don't have

[09:05:01] I don't have

[09:05:03] Need for this one

[09:05:05] Oh my

[09:05:07] We need trust, we need trust

[09:05:09] I'm using the right side

[09:05:15] Oh!

[09:05:16] Bro!

[09:05:16] Oh my god!

[09:05:19] We're less interesting

[09:05:20] Yeah!

[09:05:22] I think it's bad, I'm sorry

[09:05:25] I just saw you up and I just pressed charge

[09:05:29] I'm going in

[09:05:31] I also thought I'd taunted

[09:05:33] You could save the rest, I don't know if it's worth it

[09:05:38] I think we'll save the rest, huh?

[09:05:40] Yeah, I'll hold

[09:05:41] I need to go back against

[09:05:44] The slurry does infinite damage

[09:05:51] Yes, you completely fine on the wall

[09:05:55] It was not a lot of damage

[09:05:57] Run!

[09:05:58] I just got caught on the wall last time

[09:06:02] I'm sorry

[09:06:03] He's a greater Autobus

[09:06:04] I don't know

[09:06:06] I'm seeing a question as well

[09:06:08] Performance, impeccable

[09:06:33] I think you can release it, but I...

[09:06:35] Yeah, I think so too, but I don't want to risk it

[09:06:38] But I care for a million, 30% HP, because of this

[09:06:41] I got stunned

[09:06:52] Go go go

[09:06:53] Brilliant

[09:06:54] Ok this ass up here

[09:06:59] I'm gonna push for everyone

[09:07:01] Up here?

[09:07:02] I don't know

[09:07:03] That's better than this though

[09:07:05] Let's give him one

[09:07:08] Don't allow it

[09:07:09] You want?

[09:07:13] I forgot

[09:07:19] Even a PN here

[09:07:21] I can take one

[09:07:23] Did a stacks try a pack

[09:07:25] He's dead as well

[09:07:26] Oh man

[09:07:27] We brought a line up

[09:07:29] Yeah

[09:07:30] They're high rolling

[09:07:31] They want us to find this team

[09:07:33] Let's test him

[09:07:35] Let's test him

[09:08:07] Oh baby

[09:08:15] We need to take it, don't set it I think

[09:08:17] Yeah, we cannot play this one

[09:08:18] Don't play this guy with more mobs

[09:08:20] We need one warlock at a time

[09:08:22] Max

[09:08:23] Yes

[09:08:24] We cannot play this guy with any warlocks

[09:08:25] Then we will wipe

[09:08:27] Why?

[09:08:28] It's just ours

[09:08:30] He's a fucking beast

[09:08:32] No

[09:08:34] If I can make him just pull everything

[09:08:37] You don't have to have to have this spell

[09:08:39] I mean, do you think Akim manages to curve this, bro?

[09:08:43] I mean, it's a plus 11 Hiky push.

[09:08:46] Yes, it's true actually.

[09:08:49] Uncharted.

[09:08:49] We're literally doing world first keys right now.

[09:08:52] You have to keep that in mind.

[09:08:54] Can we have two walls?

[09:08:55] Lock the fuck in.

[09:08:56] Double wall, full, focus.

[09:08:58] Can you distract?

[09:09:00] Okay.

[09:09:00] Yeah, I mean, thank you.

[09:09:02] Gonna be holding base for a little while.

[09:09:05] Yeah, I'm moving them back right now.

[09:09:09] I click this.

[09:09:10] 5 cities for this guy. Yeah, I mean we can probably

[09:09:19] I mean, it's just, it's a thing changing now.

[09:09:21] Yeah, you're probably supposed to do so.

[09:09:24] Yeah.

[09:09:25] 5 courches for this guy.

[09:09:27] Yeah, I'm doing damage now.

[09:09:29] That's cool.

[09:09:31] It's what you waited for, bro. Finally you guys are not

[09:09:33] What the fuck is this?

[09:09:35] Mine was curbed.

[09:09:37] Are you ready or are you in game?

[09:09:41] In game.

[09:09:43] Actually, I feel like I'm playing classic in this dungeon.

[09:09:55] Yeah, I agree.

[09:09:56] There it is, there it is.

[09:09:58] In this dungeon?

[09:10:01] Yeah.

[09:10:02] Actually, I'm releasing it well.

[09:10:12] What's the mob's do?

[09:10:15] I'm just gonna go.

[09:10:16] Third one.

[09:10:30] Third two.

[09:10:32] Third three.

[09:10:34] I'm sure I'll go robin dead here.

[09:10:36] It's more than a fine fight with the floor, bro.

[09:10:47] Okay.

[09:10:50] On these guys, by the way, when I ascend,

[09:10:52] you can do the Susy with the frontal,

[09:10:54] But the animation spawns at like...

[09:10:56] I'm pulling back.

[09:11:01] You can do the nutty line up.

[09:11:04] Yeah, like sometimes the animation just doesn't spawn for the cone until it gets undone when it's ascended, so beware.

[09:11:11] Ah, it's like you're on the barrage then.

[09:11:13] Yep.

[09:11:19] They're locking up the front top.

[09:11:22] It was only small strats.

[09:11:30] Have you bought up a nut?

[09:11:32] Huh.

[09:11:34] They have like no count as well.

[09:11:36] Hmm.

[09:11:37] I'm infinite HP, so I count.

[09:11:39] And then you're combo.

[09:11:41] Yep.

[09:11:43] I'm coming, combo though.

[09:11:46] I love a bender on the move. I have two minutes.

[09:11:48] I'm gonna gaff this guy.

[09:11:50] I can send it.

[09:11:53] I'm gonna focus the wall though, I love a bender.

[09:11:58] I'm gonna focus the love of a bender.

[09:12:00] You can do whatever you want. I'm popping two minutes on this guy.

[09:12:02] On the banski.

[09:12:10] I'll stand twirling, or you died.

[09:12:12] I'm just gonna do the pack for sure

[09:12:30] It's fine, it's fine, it's fine

[09:12:35] Just hit him

[09:12:38] Okay, okay

[09:12:40] They do nothing

[09:12:41] We need a recount

[09:12:43] I'll take purple

[09:12:45] Yeah, they should do nothing, let's see

[09:12:48] Yeah, exactly

[09:12:49] This is in the bag

[09:12:51] I don't know the price of absorption

[09:12:59] But you don't even take damage

[09:13:03] That's true

[09:13:04] Oh every cast you don't take damage

[09:13:07] I mean even if you... they go off

[09:13:11] He was died

[09:13:12] Ah bro but they must double on

[09:13:15] You must see people don't kick when it's on healer

[09:13:17] They come

[09:13:18] Yeah that's basically

[09:13:25] That is actually a fact

[09:13:26] It's not worse to mentally sleep when it's on healer

[09:13:28] than your result

[09:13:30] Yes, I just acted with PS, but PS is similar.

[09:13:35] I want to do something now.

[09:13:37] Yeah.

[09:13:39] I want a 4 pack before.

[09:13:41] I'm holding all cool hands for these games.

[09:13:43] These ones.

[09:13:43] Oh.

[09:13:45] Yeah, the next back is Turbo Spice.

[09:13:47] Yeah.

[09:13:48] Cool sketchy.

[09:13:49] Is it?

[09:13:52] I thought honestly I would live with PS.

[09:13:58] It's white forever.

[09:13:59] Oh, double lava bender, I see.

[09:14:00] Yeah, maybe some.

[09:14:02] Yeah, short legs.

[09:14:03] Yeah.

[09:14:03] I don't want to come next to you

[09:14:06] Don't legs

[09:14:07] It's my next batch, he will be a dragon

[09:14:12] And then we're here

[09:14:15] Insta

[09:14:17] Okay so on these guys

[09:14:19] I obviously the omega sus front

[09:14:21] Like the omega ultra sus

[09:14:23] That was a skull marker

[09:14:28] Full sniggle target on skull

[09:14:30] Yeah

[09:14:31] Fuck him up

[09:14:39] Pops up piss off

[09:14:43] I'm just trying to make this

[09:14:45] Yeah we'll see this, I think it's fine maybe

[09:14:47] Maybe now yeah, maybe

[09:14:53] They're not doing this us. I'm hyping it up and it doesn't happen

[09:14:59] Yeah, to take the boss in

[09:15:02] The dragon I mean then

[09:15:04] What happens then actually because that's the spawner I think

[09:15:09] It's doesn't take

[09:15:11] Thanks, oh

[09:15:12] first

[09:15:20] What's the end?

[09:15:26] What is this?

[09:15:32] Am I lasting this one or are we lasting last boss?

[09:15:38] Who's it on? We can probably just last both.

[09:15:40] Is it this one? No.

[09:15:42] Okay, sure.

[09:15:43] Yeah, I mean we should last this guy as well for sure.

[09:15:45] Yeah.

[09:15:46] It's hard.

[09:15:48] I think this boss is a hard one.

[09:15:50] I'm down to send him home.

[09:15:52] Oh, no.

[09:15:54] I don't have a pot as specs.

[09:15:57] No, I can't move.

[09:16:04] I just got died earlier, right?

[09:16:06] 50%

[09:16:06] You can't move it to spawn, bro.

[09:16:08] Oh yeah

[09:16:09] That is not very good

[09:16:10] Fancy?

[09:16:11] That is good

[09:16:13] Big purge

[09:16:36] Double gun

[09:16:38] Knocked the other one

[09:16:40] Not on me for one time

[09:16:42] On me

[09:16:43] When I'm slowing down

[09:16:44] That's done

[09:16:46] Weeeee

[09:16:47] After that

[09:16:50] This guy died again

[09:16:51] I missed a shockwave

[09:16:52] I don't know

[09:16:53] That is on 50

[09:16:54] This guy has some HP

[09:17:00] Does it?

[09:17:01] Yeah, I'm bugging up, it is not sure that you're so diamond

[09:17:04] You're a valyona

[09:17:07] Yeah, I know who that is

[09:17:09] No

[09:17:10] Breakfast in Cataclysm, didn't you read it?

[09:17:13] Nope

[09:17:14] A classic

[09:17:16] I let you quit the love for you

[09:17:18] That's it

[09:17:20] That's it

[09:17:21] The kill is at peace, I beg

[09:17:23] I cannot hit the person

[09:17:24] Ah, I'm trying to go on

[09:17:25] This is stop

[09:17:26] That's it

[09:17:27] Stop being a level 10 person

[09:17:29] haha

[09:17:31] I think I'm gonna kill him

[09:17:33] I'll kill him from the expo

[09:17:45] I definitely don't think he'll die sir

[09:17:47] 3% of us?

[09:17:49] Nah, I just slow

[09:17:54] One slow and dream

[09:17:56] One coir

[09:17:58] Oh, it's dead

[09:18:00] Dude this is terrible

[09:18:02] I need to lock in now

[09:18:04] Okay, go go go

[09:18:06] Holy f**k

[09:18:08] We have one

[09:18:10] There are two

[09:18:11] That's blood, they can go and do a pack for you

[09:18:17] Fine, me and you is left to kill

[09:18:20] You are left to kill me

[09:18:23] I'm dying, I don't have a curse, I'm popping out of it

[09:18:26] Oh

[09:18:28] I'm hoping I have spot as well, fucking...

[09:18:31] Send him on

[09:18:33] And even now you can get blood, of course, that's really good

[09:18:38] I hate these mobs

[09:18:41] I can go to the ruins

[09:18:42] I can make sure we can

[09:18:44] Oh, I'm in line here as well.

[09:18:46] Yeah.

[09:18:47] Maybe we can line?

[09:18:49] Yeah.

[09:18:50] Oh, that's crazy.

[09:18:52] All of the small losers at the end of this drawing,

[09:18:55] we dropped the debuff.

[09:18:58] They can back.

[09:19:00] Did somebody else fall?

[09:19:02] Not yet.

[09:19:03] Not yet.

[09:19:04] Yeah.

[09:19:05] But they didn't work fucking cringe.

[09:19:07] Now we can't line properly.

[09:19:09] Wait, you put here, watch out.

[09:19:11] Shit on the line.

[09:19:13] Is it one click?

[09:19:14] Yeah yeah

[09:19:15] Perfect, it's fine

[09:19:16] Shooting there was very bad

[09:19:17] It's fine though

[09:19:24] I'm finding a different corner

[09:19:26] Thank you, I'm in problem now

[09:19:27] Thank you, this guy doesn't do another quest

[09:19:31] Oh no

[09:19:35] This is gonna be kinda bad

[09:19:36] Maybe we'll just wait

[09:19:39] Yeah, just stay here and kill him

[09:19:40] Okay yeah

[09:19:41] We're running

[09:19:42] Yeah, yeah, but...

[09:19:42] We're running out of no fire just

[09:19:44] I'm sorry

[09:19:46] 25?

[09:19:48] Yeah, maybe we don't want the 80 stacker for the suck

[09:19:54] So we fly now

[09:19:56] So that's one of the ones that's everything about him.

[09:19:58] I think we didn't last that.

[09:20:11] Dude, that really backfired that week.

[09:20:15] Holy shit, you're smiling right now.

[09:20:16] I can see your smile all the way here, bro.

[09:20:18] Dirty boy.

[09:20:21] Why did I travel freedom?

[09:20:22] You scared me yourself.

[09:22:07] There's a lot of other sacros in there.

[09:22:09] It must be a sacros.

[09:22:12] It's not even that much movement.

[09:22:20] It's cool.

[09:22:21] Dude, the free is done.

[09:22:26] Dude, you're cool.

[09:22:34] I'm not going to look like.

[09:22:35] Yeah, I'm going to ask everyone

[09:22:37] We're going into Red again to 30 minutes to an hour to double going to mid-deck again

[09:23:29] Yeah, so they went from some end of the percent just killing the boss. They're not crazy

[09:23:39] Maybe they just had a good point. Are you going son?

[09:23:56] I'm probably gonna lose in the house to fill that fault as well

[09:24:00] Okay, but invite the tank again then. I can keep playing that

[09:24:04] There we go. He had to leave

[09:24:06] Yeah, but get the tank anyway. Where's the fun?

[09:24:10] So we have news

[09:25:25] Yeah, but it's not new to anyone in chat.

[09:25:27] There's two different kinds of news.

[09:25:29] Well, actually I didn't know until I read chat and then somebody told me that Liquid indeed

[09:25:35] has killed.

[09:25:36] Congrats Liquid.

[09:25:37] Congrats Liquid.

[09:25:38] Yeah, we just, or I watched the kill.

[09:25:41] I did too.

[09:25:42] Yeah.

[09:25:43] So really cool to see that they managed to kill a boss before they reset.

[09:25:46] It is really late for them, so they definitely had some pressure to kill a boss and they

[09:25:50] managed to do so, which is great.

[09:25:51] They're going to be seeing some of Queen Ancerok before their reset.

[09:25:55] They're very likely going to, I don't want to say, but they're not going to stream it.

[09:26:01] I mean, they already went dark, right?

[09:26:03] Oh, okay, good.

[09:26:04] Yeah, yeah, they went dark immediately.

[09:26:05] I mean, we see four pulls going up, so I think they're currently working on Queen

[09:26:10] Ancerok.

[09:26:11] They did go dark for it.

[09:26:12] Of course, it makes total sense.

[09:26:13] No one should be offering any hit there.

[09:26:14] Ekko would have done the exact same thing.

[09:26:15] You're in the last couple of hours before your reset.

[09:26:18] reason to advertise that information to Echo who may not kill the Silkencourt today. Obviously

[09:26:23] a little bit of pressure on since Liquid has killed it. Echo would like to kill it as well and then

[09:26:28] Echo could potentially get some Queen Encerok information as well. But congrats Liquid, that's

[09:26:32] huge. It means that we don't have to worry about that rare occasion where you don't even

[09:26:37] see the end boss before the new reset. At least one guild will have seen Queen Encerok.

[09:26:42] Doesn't mean Chat will unless Echo also kills Silkencourt which we hope they will. Currently

[09:26:47] doing Mythic Plus as they prepare for the day, rounding out those great vaults.

[09:26:50] And of course, Scryp, Roger, and Potter have been working for the past hour on raid planning

[09:26:54] and setting up exactly what they want to do since the boss got changed and no longer going

[09:26:57] to be one tanking like they were for the latter half of yesterday.

[09:27:01] But big grats to Liquid.

[09:27:02] I do want to call out, we are still raising money for games for love and a couple of

[09:27:07] donations have come in.

[09:27:08] So I'm going to read those and then I think you had other news.

[09:27:11] Yes.

[09:27:12] But read the donations first.

[09:27:13] Or do this first.

[09:27:14] But hold your donations until after this news, after this.

[09:27:17] Tonka Wonka said in $10 saying,

[09:27:19] Cataclysm rules, love the race to world first, nice work.

[09:27:23] Any thoughts?

[09:27:24] No?

[09:27:25] I have nothing to say about Cataclysm.

[09:27:26] I'm also a thoughtless.

[09:27:28] Templar Trey sent in $50.

[09:27:30] Hi all, thanks for the production

[09:27:32] and work for the race to world first.

[09:27:33] I appreciate you raising money for charity.

[09:27:35] We appreciate you donating money to charity.

[09:27:38] We just sit here and say silly things

[09:27:40] and you guys are actually giving up your hard earned money

[09:27:42] to this wonderful cause for which we are

[09:27:45] extraordinarily grateful.

[09:27:45] We're currently at $21,505.69, an amazing amount raised.

[09:27:50] I'm getting very close to that next charity goal.

[09:27:52] And about halfway to our overall goal of $40,000 raised,

[09:27:56] if we get to, shall we say, $22,500 raised

[09:28:01] in the next hour or two, is that a reasonable amount?

[09:28:04] I'm going to say...

[09:28:05] Or should we reduce it?

[09:28:06] It is the morning shift.

[09:28:07] No, $22,000, I think, is good.

[09:28:09] Okay, so if you guys get $495, then...

[09:28:12] She hasn't told me what's going to happen.

[09:28:13] Yeah, he has no idea.

[09:28:14] I have no idea.

[09:28:15] I just told production my idea.

[09:28:18] So I do need to give credit here to Jenny Wanlang

[09:28:22] because that's his idea and that's what he does sometimes

[09:28:24] with my special streams whenever I have them on my stream.

[09:28:27] And it is something called Emote Scavenger Hunt.

[09:28:31] The way this game works is that we will not be seeing

[09:28:36] the broadcast and production will come up

[09:28:39] with certain things that are here in this room

[09:28:43] or around this area, and they will overlay them

[09:28:47] on stream for the viewers to see.

[09:28:49] So for example, it would be like a stream deck.

[09:28:52] Let's say stream deck, plus something, plus something, plus something.

[09:28:54] Or one of the pictures of Mike and I eating disgusting food.

[09:28:56] Yes.

[09:28:57] And then since we don't see what the words are

[09:28:59] or what the items are that we need to gather,

[09:29:02] that we need to scavenge, the chat will have to tell us,

[09:29:05] but through emotes only.

[09:29:07] So they send an emote in order to tell us

[09:29:08] that the item is the Algarve stream deck.

[09:29:10] Yeah.

[09:29:11] And then we can go back and forth and I'm like, you know, I can be like, okay, what's the first thing?

[09:29:17] And then they'll put some emotes and I'm like, okay, is it this is a blue and then they can, you know, go back and forth.

[09:29:22] And then we have to gather the items, put them on the table or whatever.

[09:29:27] And then at some point we'll get revealed the answers and we'll know if we were correct or not.

[09:29:33] Okay.

[09:29:33] And there should be some stakes.

[09:29:34] I haven't figured out the stakes.

[09:29:35] Like if we get the items correct or incorrect, I'm not sure if chat gets something.

[09:29:40] If we get something, you know, like I haven't figured that one out. That's a mean

[09:29:43] That's on me. I mean the the the most obvious answer is that if chat does a good job of guiding us through this because it's entirely on them

[09:29:50] Yeah, obviously we are smart enough to figure out what they're communicating. They have to communicate it. Well chat could get rewarded with an

[09:29:56] You know protect perhaps a bountiful delve

[09:30:00] Maybe a two-priced delve from Roger's treasure or something like that or more. I'm not suggesting an actual

[09:30:06] I'm not offering we are actually going to send you off to do a battle delve. I'm saying we could delve into Roger's treasure trove

[09:30:13] We're gonna have to see about to get a prize, but we'll see if production agrees with us. There are prizes here

[09:30:18] We could give away

[09:30:19] Okay, they're planning a price

[09:30:21] Planning a price. All right, but you know when when I was in the other room

[09:30:25] Yeah, medic said just do a push-up contest. I was thinking about the same thing

[09:30:29] Yeah, but I mean that's but now chat can be involved and I'm gonna lose a push-up contest

[09:30:34] I'm not sure you would well, maybe not. Maybe we should do a push-up contest. We should do both

[09:30:43] All right, so we're gonna have chat on the iPad so that we can see their emotes as we do this scavenger hunt

[09:30:50] We're just doing it regardless of the goal. Wow. I thought we are doing a goal, but not

[09:30:55] No, I mean, you know what? They've already raised money. Let's do the push-ups at 22,000

[09:31:01] at 22,000 we will push that ball

[09:31:03] and we'll do the scavenger hunt now because they're just doing it with the plus anyway and this is more fun

[09:31:06] let's go for it

[09:31:07] okay, so we can no longer see the broadcast

[09:31:09] we have to, and you have the chat here

[09:31:11] I have the chat, okay

[09:31:12] and we don't see the broadcast

[09:31:13] but they see us just like normal

[09:31:14] yes, they see us normally

[09:31:15] I can't take off my socks

[09:31:17] the first, as soon as the camera turns on

[09:31:20] they're so uncomfortable

[09:31:22] how is it unsanitary?

[09:31:24] my elbows are out right now

[09:31:26] what?

[09:31:27] guys, I'm telling you, as soon as the camera is off

[09:31:29] of sucks are flying that's true every time all right all right so we see chat

[09:31:38] they are currently saying zalee toes it needs to be put in emote only mode yeah

[09:31:43] we need it is now all right you know only and I guess we're there we see we

[09:31:47] see a smiley face yeah okay that's not helping us at all okay we have to read

[09:31:52] us look like this smiley why ice oh yes you need to help us here need a

[09:31:58] smiley face. Is it like a selfie? Okay. You guys need to e-mail in a way to reveal to us

[09:32:07] what you're seeing. You need to give us clues through e-motes instead of this random smorgasbord of

[09:32:13] whatever this is. You guys are seeing stuff on the screen right now that we cannot see.

[09:32:17] Camera tours suggest to me that we're looking at a picture. Yeah, I got a picture because I

[09:32:21] think the smiley face was actually referring to like a smiley face. Yeah. So I think it's a

[09:32:26] a picture we just don't know which one okay which person is it which picture I

[09:32:29] see a lot of like Nagura W's is it my selfie is it the Nagura selfie it's

[09:32:36] behind hey guys yes all right victory we need to get it which is like somehow

[09:32:43] your privilege to have the only normal professional looking e-sports selfie I

[09:32:48] don't understand why she gets to look good and I get to be drinking pizza

[09:32:52] milk. It was horrendous. It was one of the worst things I've ever done. Wow. Okay, next.

[09:33:02] Come on, we need hurry up. We need more. Okay, what's the next one? What's the next

[09:33:06] thing? Um, hammer hammer. Okay, so I'm star for that makes a lot of sense because

[09:33:12] it's a hammer. It is. Wow. Wow. That's obviously a hammer. What's next? What's

[09:33:19] next time. You're doing a great job. This is a good job track. Good job. We need to get

[09:33:22] the prizes. A rat. Cheese. Something about rats. So it's clearly Mike.

[09:33:28] What do you mean? The slender. Uh, sticky rat cheese. Pick. Where's the picture of Mike?

[09:33:38] I think it's the middle one. It's eating. Is he a rat?

[09:33:41] He looks like a rat.

[09:33:43] It's not that.

[09:33:45] It's so good.

[09:33:47] I don't get it.

[09:33:49] Wings at Christmas tree.

[09:33:51] Something green. Is it a plant?

[09:33:53] A cheese plant?

[09:33:55] Oh, there's a plant.

[09:33:57] Which one?

[09:33:59] Any of them.

[09:34:01] Just a plant.

[09:34:03] How did you get a plant?

[09:34:05] There's wings.

[09:34:07] Okay next next next next next production didn't realize how good chat is gonna be at this extraordinary some

[09:34:14] Easy words. Yeah

[09:34:17] We have more cheese. I'm gonna pretend that I assume that means nothing

[09:34:21] Dogs and I suppose there's like multiple words and they're doing different ones

[09:34:25] You know, like they're not all agreeing on which words they're currently showing. It's also possible. They're trolling us

[09:34:29] No, they would never

[09:34:31] It is still possible that it's like cheese burritos, it's still cheese and rats and stuff.

[09:34:36] And then some kind of nasty smell.

[09:34:38] Is it the Namasu?

[09:34:39] Is it?

[09:34:40] No.

[09:34:41] No, that's not a rat, it's a catfish.

[09:34:42] Well, is it this one because it's cheese, but it's yellow?

[09:34:45] How is it cheese?

[09:34:46] It's yellow.

[09:34:47] Okay, okay.

[09:34:48] Okay.

[09:34:49] Yeah, good try, I guess.

[09:34:51] Um, they're just licking this weird fuzzy creature.

[09:34:56] Are you sure?

[09:34:57] Oh, what is, yeah, it's like a...

[09:34:59] I don't know what that is.

[09:35:02] I don't know what it is either.

[09:35:05] There's a one eye patched smiley face.

[09:35:08] One eye patched smiley face.

[09:35:10] We need more guys, we need more.

[09:35:12] This is like a mouse, right?

[09:35:14] I think that's a mouse.

[09:35:15] Oh, it's a mouse! It's literally...

[09:35:17] Oh, the Corsair mouse!

[09:35:20] Oh, that's good chat.

[09:35:22] Oh, that's why the cheese.

[09:35:24] See, the thing is that we just degraded the cheese

[09:35:26] because they did the cheese for the previous one too.

[09:35:28] two. All right, one more. Are we doing another? Water Boi

[09:35:35] Genji. Huh? Crab saying yes. Spidey team. Spiders. Crab.

[09:35:41] Spiders. Crab. Team Crab has a crown. Lots of team Crab's

[09:35:47] coming up. Team Crab or team. So it's crabs. It's not

[09:35:51] spider. I mean, I do see some spider. But most people

[09:35:54] mostly crab

[09:35:56] yeah and a picture

[09:35:58] just the envelope

[09:36:00] is it the envelope?

[09:36:02] no ok so something team crab

[09:36:04] could be a display

[09:36:06] crab's rule on the display

[09:36:08] there it is

[09:36:10] crab's rule displayed

[09:36:12] I can't believe some people put the spider

[09:36:14] I told you some of the metronome

[09:36:16] that they're actually inting

[09:36:18] I cannot believe it

[09:36:20] you guys are in our key with the wrong spec

[09:36:22] Alright, next. That's a toilet.

[09:36:28] That is in this room. A shield? Yeah, I think that's a shield.

[09:36:31] A shield, um, Twitch.

[09:36:34] No Spiders, no Spiders.

[09:36:38] You know, what is this mode? Oh, Twitch.

[09:36:42] Yeah, that's a Twitch-y mode. Is there like a Twitch something in it?

[09:36:45] Is it something related to streaming? Something purple?

[09:36:48] stream stream deck is it the stream deck okay now oh which one one of them is on

[09:36:57] the left and one of them is on the right no which stream deck okay so we have the

[09:37:07] yeah there's actually several stream decks it's one of their yeah with a

[09:37:11] stream deck plus okay which stream deck is the chat the white one because it's

[09:37:16] They're leaving you toilets. Is that the white one?

[09:37:28] Okay, one more production set for the prize eggs egg

[09:37:33] Oh

[09:37:35] There's any eggs in here. We have one bird head birds lay eggs. That's

[09:37:41] I think now we have the envelope, I think there we go yes and now we just have to figure

[09:37:55] out which one.

[09:37:56] And Kat's going to give us a problem here.

[09:37:59] I think maybe we can just shoot yeah let's have a poll.

[09:38:03] Because they're going to get one of the envelopes.

[09:38:06] Alright good job.

[09:38:07] So a poll going up, Crab versus Spiders.

[09:38:09] You can't vote by emoting.

[09:38:11] You have to actually go on top and vote for Crab versus Spiders.

[09:38:15] Congratulations, Chad.

[09:38:16] You did it.

[09:38:16] Good job, Chad.

[09:38:17] The toilet for the white stream deck.

[09:38:19] That was very smart.

[09:38:20] I liked it.

[09:38:21] I also felt that it was very confusing.

[09:38:24] We have lots of prizes to give out from our phenomenal

[09:38:26] sponsors, including stream decks and Corsair

[09:38:30] Mice and merch from our store, lots of good stuff.

[09:38:35] No hammers, true, all of those are useful.

[09:38:37] So voting on Team Krab versus Spider,

[09:38:41] what do we have so far?

[09:38:42] Team Spider is as always winning.

[09:38:44] We're both Team Spider, aren't we?

[09:38:45] I am Team Spider.

[09:38:46] I think, yeah, I am.

[09:38:47] That shirt is so cool.

[09:38:48] We're gonna get Tattooed to Spider

[09:38:50] if we reach that spot.

[09:38:50] If they reach $40,000 raised,

[09:38:52] I'm going to get a Spider Tattooed somewhere,

[09:38:56] you as well.

[09:38:56] And Medica's getting a Krab Tattooed on his arm

[09:38:59] to be part of a nautical themed sleeve.

[09:39:02] It will be the third Tattoo that I have on my body

[09:39:05] that is designed by Sam.

[09:39:07] Really?

[09:39:08] What are they there too?

[09:39:08] They're my two never logos that Sam made.

[09:39:10] Oh, I didn't know that.

[09:39:11] That's really cool.

[09:39:13] Yeah.

[09:39:14] Sam's like, that's a weird thing.

[09:39:16] Like, yeah, I mean it is.

[09:39:17] Where's the spider going to go?

[09:39:19] I don't know.

[09:39:19] I haven't thought about it yet.

[09:39:21] Maybe in my ankle somewhere.

[09:39:22] Take a look inside.

[09:39:24] I was thinking the small one back.

[09:39:26] Oh, yeah.

[09:39:27] The classic place for touches.

[09:39:28] Yeah.

[09:39:28] I don't know if you're right, Sam.

[09:39:31] You could have multiple spiders crawling across.

[09:39:34] Sam just said that it would be fun for Katie to have something to look at.

[09:39:37] But I've been told that it can't be visible because she doesn't want to see a spider.

[09:39:50] I was going to say in intimate moments.

[09:39:52] But yeah, while she's taking me to work too.

[09:39:53] Thanks, Sam.

[09:39:57] We try to keep it PG-13 and then we have production in our ears talking about Peggy.

[09:40:07] What to be clear chat.

[09:40:11] Sam has no knowledge one way or the other about what activities Katie and I may or may not engage in

[09:40:18] But I was specifically told by her that it cannot be visible during any any like intimate moments

[09:40:23] Which is right on position and

[09:40:32] Do you want to draw shall I draw

[09:40:36] You're holding I'll draw the thing is yeah, because the last time I drew like an epic the war within

[09:40:42] And I kind of don't want to ruin it now by drawing something like much worse

[09:40:46] All right, and what are you suggesting is the bad prize in the pet? I hate I don't care. Yeah, so some people

[09:40:53] Yeah, Roger like Roger Brown loves World of Warcraft

[09:40:58] Owens every single one of them. Have you heard the story? I did not know that about Roger. That's crazy

[09:41:04] Roger's a collector. He's a lifelong player. Wow. He's playing it's the beginning. He's still got ethics

[09:41:09] This is like his first epics ever.

[09:41:10] I'm still in his bank.

[09:41:11] He owns all of his collectors out of every mount, every pet.

[09:41:14] That's so cool.

[09:41:15] A couple of years ago, he wanted to get one of the last pets he didn't have,

[09:41:18] which was the pet from the collector's edition of Diablo 3.

[09:41:21] Oh, okay.

[09:41:22] He found someone selling it for a few hundred dollars in Canada,

[09:41:25] but didn't want to pay shipping.

[09:41:26] So he had it shipped to my house so that I could take out the card with redemption code

[09:41:31] and read him the code so he could get the Diablo 3 pet in game.

[09:41:35] That didn't sat in my house for like three years

[09:41:38] Until I brought it to him this race world first and now he has the collector's edition

[09:41:42] But he bought the entire collective edition just for the wow wow that's crazy

[09:41:46] Yeah, you really is a collector so shame on you for suggesting pets aren't an amazing price

[09:41:51] For me it's not we're yonking one of these from Roger's own Dell his own loot. Okay. I think we used to have

[09:41:58] One of these to show off. It has to be a pet. Yeah. I'm gonna be disappointed

[09:42:03] Yeah, I mean I want it to be a prize from our merch store the extra extra-large

[09:42:11] mouse pad. Oh nice! I really want that extra extra large one. They're so nice.

[09:42:20] I actually would want, yeah I want the whole desk to be covered. Yeah it's a

[09:42:24] lovely price. So, exclam spider in the chat one time so you don't get timed

[09:42:29] out for multiple entries, one entry gets you in, multiple entries gets you

[09:42:31] Nothing.

[09:42:32] One time XCOM Spider, you'll be entered in the prize.

[09:42:34] Make sure your deems are open,

[09:42:36] because someone will reach out to you

[09:42:37] to give it to you if you win.

[09:42:39] That is a phenomenal prize.

[09:42:41] Everyone else, also check out the merch store.

[09:42:43] There's a lot of really great stuff in there.

[09:42:44] They put a picture of me on the merch store the other day.

[09:42:46] Oh, really?

[09:42:47] Yeah.

[09:42:47] Nice.

[09:42:49] Or is it?

[09:42:50] With the team's, well, I thought it was an OK picture.

[09:42:54] It was the team's Spider shirt that has me underneath it,

[09:42:57] because Kylo was taking pictures.

[09:42:59] They needed new headshots for me,

[09:43:01] Because for the past several events, they've been using a picture of me from a year ago, pre-beard.

[09:43:06] And they need some updated pictures, because otherwise people don't recognize me.

[09:43:11] It's a little bit different.

[09:43:12] We did also reach our Portia challenge, which we're going to have to focus on a bit.

[09:43:16] But since we did reach it, there's a lot of donations that came through, so let me read through some of them.

[09:43:21] Thank you so much everybody for donating for such a good cause, for our Games for Love.

[09:43:26] As we do have a $50 donation by TemplarTrace.

[09:43:30] And they're saying hi all thanks for all the production and work for the raceable first. I also appreciate you raising money for charity

[09:43:37] Thank you very much for donating that is so nice to do appreciate it that it's phenomenal. You guys have raised so much money

[09:43:42] Four games for love, which is an amazing cause well deserving of your generosity

[09:43:47] Then we have $50 nation by anonymous no comments dropping the $50. Thank you so so much

[09:43:53] Then we have a $450 nation by

[09:43:56] And they're saying push-ups at least 10 each go I don't know. I'd never do push-ups

[09:44:02] I don't remember the last time I've done push-ups, so I might get one. I have no idea

[09:44:06] I also haven't done push-ups in a while, but I recently started like incorporating them. It's not too long ago

[09:44:11] But I do know they are difficult. They're very hard. Yeah. Well, my

[09:44:16] Heart I haven't done them in very long time

[09:44:19] And then we have another 45 delegation by anonymous and they say thanks everyone involved for hosting such a great event and

[09:44:25] and raising money for an amazing cost.

[09:44:26] Thank you so, so much for all the non-presumations.

[09:44:29] But it's incredibly kind.

[09:44:32] Do you think you can do 10?

[09:44:33] No.

[09:44:35] Well, what does the winner get?

[09:44:37] I assume this is something that practice helps

[09:44:39] and I haven't done push-ups and God knows how long.

[09:44:43] Where are we doing these push-ups

[09:44:44] for the camera to actually pick it up?

[09:44:45] I guess we could like move this table

[09:44:48] and then do it on the carpet.

[09:44:49] Oh yeah, that would make sense.

[09:44:51] Are we gonna take turns?

[09:44:52] You do as many as you can

[09:44:53] and then I do as many as I can that way.

[09:44:55] That way we're not like taking up all the room.

[09:44:57] But then the second person has more motivation to beat the number the first person did.

[09:45:01] Yeah, there's a little bit of advantage that that first person going as always disadvantaged.

[09:45:08] The second person can copy strategy, watch form, you know, go no deeper than the first person did.

[09:45:13] Exactly.

[09:45:16] Do we have a form police as well here?

[09:45:18] We should have form police. Are we touching chest to floor like all the way down?

[09:45:22] That's not going to happen.

[09:45:23] I think we should.

[09:45:24] chest to floor isn't that how you do push-ups I don't know that is not what's

[09:45:33] the point of the exercise if you're not going through the full range of motion

[09:45:36] you go through the but touching like the floor deeper you go the more stretch

[09:45:40] you get on the triceps which is actually easier what's easier because you

[09:45:45] you're leaving your weight and you can literally like drop yourself on the

[09:45:48] floor you don't rest you just push yeah but like then you only have to push

[09:45:52] If you only go through part of the range of motion, that's

[09:45:55] No, but catching the floor is easier because of your weight.

[09:45:58] That's how when you're doing deadlifts, you're also not dropping the weight on the floor all the way.

[09:46:02] You do reset the deadlift at the end of the lift, and just like with the bench press,

[09:46:06] You take the bench press all the way to the chest.

[09:46:09] Yeah, but you're not resting it on your chest.

[09:46:11] Correct. You go to the floor, but you don't rest.

[09:46:14] What's the point of doing it?

[09:46:15] You're wrong here!

[09:46:16] What does Chad say?

[09:46:17] Final decision!

[09:46:18] Okay, well I don't care how deep we go, I just want this to go the same depth.

[09:46:21] I don't have chat. You have chat. I just don't understand the point of an exercise if you're not going through the fore-range motion

[09:46:26] You're not getting the muscles stretched. Here's a tutorial. Alright, we'll copy this gentleman

[09:46:31] So he sticks his butt way up and then where the shoulder goes in front of the fingertips or beyond and not super far back

[09:46:38] Where we have this bigger obtuse angle between the hand and the eyeball. You want to actually be here

[09:46:45] It's going to be a little bit less than 90 degrees when you look at the angle between the hand and the eyeball

[09:46:50] not to be first. I think it's going to affect whether or not you can do a pushup. For your

[09:46:59] head and neck position, you don't want to be drooping your head down like this. You don't

[09:47:04] want to be looking up like this unintentionally, which I'll get to later. It's crazy how easy

[09:47:09] it seems to have like a straight body. It's like, duh, just be straight and then you

[09:47:14] I've never thought I was. Yeah, I've known all along. I'm not straight.

[09:47:23] I want to see I want to see one actual push to see how deep it goes. That's what's important.

[09:47:28] What is the depth which we're going? Is this all just what not to do?

[09:47:31] I think you'll notice when you do push up that like how far you go?

[09:47:37] Well, there is. I think they could do a push up all the way to the ground and that would be a more beneficial

[09:47:41] form than stopping halfway. We stop halfway. I don't know how far to go.

[09:47:44] He went real deep that was that was just the floor but barely not touching also

[09:47:51] I feel like it's it's not good for you for your arms actually

[09:47:55] You can have some weird angle that

[09:47:59] He's going all the way to floor he's he's not resting but he's going to floor I

[09:48:07] Was right

[09:48:09] Look the shirt is touching. He's going to the floor that is saying

[09:48:12] Now he's planting his forehead on it.

[09:48:19] Okay, so these are the easier knee pushups.

[09:48:23] If you're working your way up to the chest, let's do this, let's do this.

[09:48:28] What does the winner get?

[09:48:29] Are we just doing it here or are we moving the table?

[09:48:31] I think we did too.

[09:48:36] Okay, I'm going to keep talking while they're...

[09:48:39] Oh my God, I was like, oh, it's going to reveal all of the stuff that we have under the table.

[09:48:43] But thankfully the camera can't see.

[09:48:46] Alright, we just have this place on our table, so nothing crazy going on there.

[09:48:54] Alright, so we're doing the thing where one goes first.

[09:48:57] Okay, are you gonna go first?

[09:49:01] Should we do...

[09:49:03] I would go first, but after that conversation, I'm not trusting you to go through the floor into motion.

[09:49:07] I want to see how deep you go before I go.

[09:49:09] Because I would go all the way to the floor.

[09:49:12] But I'm just gonna do whatever you were doing.

[09:49:14] Okay, so we're doing full range motion and I'll go first.

[09:49:16] Yes.

[09:49:17] I'm predicting two.

[09:49:19] I haven't done push ups in a very long time.

[09:49:24] All right, let's see.

[09:49:29] Yeah, this just looks fine to me.

[09:49:32] You are fairly long.

[09:49:34] You can go diagonal if you feel like you need more space.

[09:49:37] All right.

[09:49:40] And one, two, three.

[09:49:44] four five oh oh come down six eight nine ten eleven twelve you're getting real tired i don't

[09:49:57] know about this one i'm not sure we can do one more i think i think you should stop now

[09:50:02] 15, 17, 18, 19, okay one more you can do one more and okay okay that was 20 I'm

[09:50:24] gonna have to, he's that too many push ups he could have. I was being lied to.

[09:50:54] Can I do best press almost every day? This is unfair guys I'm gonna have to break it to you guys.

[09:51:00] I cannot do 20 push ups. I don't know.

[09:51:04] But I'm gonna ask you to disappoint you. There is no way I can do 21 push ups.

[09:51:14] Alright, we're gonna cheer for Nogura now.

[09:51:19] Thank you. I'm a little tired.

[09:51:22] This is the advantage of going second.

[09:51:31] Now she's like, she knows how much she has to do.

[09:51:33] She wants to do some warm ups.

[09:51:35] This is one of the most unorthodox warm ups.

[09:51:38] I'm not sure what involvement the hip flexibility has in the push-up.

[09:51:45] Alright, very good, we're going.

[09:51:48] Yeah, take the watch off maybe so it doesn't hurt your wrist.

[09:51:56] I think she prepares, assuming the position.

[09:52:02] Straight back, excellent form.

[09:52:05] And we go, one.

[09:52:08] What is that range of motion? Two, three, four-ish, five, six, we're doing half-wraps.

[09:52:17] Seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, seventeen

[09:52:35] in a quarter, 17 and a half, 18, it's an amazing performance going to 19, okay now we have to

[09:52:47] divide them in two because you did exactly what I predicted you did half reps all the

[09:52:51] way through, but it was an amazing performance.

[09:52:55] A applause for Nagura who is extraordinarily fit.

[09:52:58] I think that was a very impressive performance.

[09:53:06] You did really really good. Your form left something to be desired. But you went at it with

[09:53:12] energy and will.

[09:53:13] I tried. I'm sorry Chet.

[09:53:16] Why are you apologizing? You did really good.

[09:53:19] But you did better.

[09:53:21] That is true.

[09:53:22] That's a problem.

[09:53:23] What do you mean it's a problem?

[09:53:25] It was a competition.

[09:53:26] It was so funny.

[09:53:27] And I lost.

[09:53:28] Earlier when I said we should do a push-up contest, she's like, I don't think we should

[09:53:32] I say I don't know how many I can do she said okay, maybe we're good

[09:53:43] Hope the chat enjoyed that thank you for raising that extra $500 for games for love that makes it all worth it

[09:53:49] Plus, you know, we got a little bit of a trust and trust work out. Yeah, I mean, don't have to go to German more today

[09:53:55] In fact, it is time for your second set

[09:53:59] Okay, we're actually doing a workout

[09:54:06] Yeah, so we're gonna get some water, a drink, maybe wife's and so on.

[09:54:11] We're gonna throw two comms for a little break.

[09:54:14] Thank you guys so much for the donations and for hanging out this morning.

[09:54:16] We appreciate all of you.

[09:54:17] Don't go away.

[09:55:46] I mean, I need it as well.

[09:55:49] We could just do for you until we should do sevens.

[09:55:54] Or if you don't need the depends on what you're what more you want to.

[09:56:04] We will tend to the same time.

[09:56:07] How many keys do we need to get the extra buck?

[09:56:09] What did you say, Sari?

[09:56:12] How many extra keys do we need to get the extra buck?

[09:56:15] I think it's just one.

[09:56:17] One more level 10?

[09:56:19] Yeah, I think so.

[09:56:21] Yeah, one more, let's do one more.

[09:56:23] We do one more level 10, our garden.

[09:56:26] It can be nine as well, we need nine now, so...

[09:56:28] I'm not gonna hold this part anyway.

[09:56:30] Wait.

[09:56:31] Oh, so you get third option from one more level nine?

[09:56:35] No, a second option.

[09:56:36] From 119

[09:56:38] I just saw what 6, like, 19, so 6-103

[09:56:42] I lose 4 out of 11

[09:56:43] I didn't see any question that you understood

[09:56:46] I just saw a mid-arcade, and I said,

[09:56:48] 1 to 9 out of 10, that's really funny

[09:56:51] Nah, what are you best at?

[09:56:52] Red is pretty hot

[09:56:54] The single target?

[09:56:58] I think Red can probably be the best at a single target

[09:57:00] I'll leave via the flag first, then I'll blast

[09:57:03] So, 43 this day for 4

[09:57:28] Yeah, we need to start some balls

[09:57:30] yes I love that it's not right now this was here I like it close in all

[09:57:40] but you need to be prepared on this one yeah tank is all this actually we have

[09:57:57] a black you can talk to me so we talk oh my god it's dying lowly what's

[09:58:09] fucking harsh bro I think our blood because of you know I mean should be

[09:58:24] You can't know before this. You just can't have healing absorb when the dark poison is gone.

[09:58:37] That's when the tank shoots off.

[09:58:39] I don't know if you can.

[09:58:41] Yeah.

[09:58:42] On the next wave it's going to be rough to absorb if you don't do that.

[09:58:45] I think it's next. This one's into AWE.

[09:58:53] Yeah, we're getting another wave of action.

[09:58:56] I have half of the pot stone.

[09:58:59] Half of the pot stone for the big.

[09:59:00] I have half of the pot stone again.

[09:59:02] I'm going to get it.

[09:59:04] You can take some.

[09:59:05] I'll take two and half pot

[09:59:08] I'll bring beast

[09:59:15] Go fucking morack man

[09:59:20] Go morack

[09:59:22] Yeah, I'm so morack

[09:59:24] Yeah, you know

[09:59:27] What is it?

[09:59:28] Look at this, right?

[09:59:30] That's so sick

[09:59:36] I don't need that

[09:59:37] I don't want to say

[09:59:39] I don't want to say anything like that

[09:59:55] Oh, but

[09:59:56] Wait, that's a different, that's like the special one

[09:59:58] Oh, it's intended

[10:00:01] Where even is that one?

[10:00:03] Right on the backup

[10:00:04] Yeah, this was damage.

[10:00:06] I have to give a solid boost.

[10:00:08] I got it.

[10:00:11] Guys, so many of us are in the back and you guys are not good.

[10:00:16] You're not good on the server or what?

[10:00:18] Yeah, let me do...

[10:00:19] You're not good on the server.

[10:00:26] I got it.

[10:00:27] I got it.

[10:00:28] Ah, gifted for beast.

[10:00:31] With the beast.

[10:00:32] I'm gonna use a gas cannon right now.

[10:00:44] Oh shit.

[10:00:45] Iro?

[10:00:46] Yeah.

[10:00:47] Gas thing is so much fun.

[10:00:48] I don't know, I'm like...

[10:00:49] I don't like it.

[10:00:50] Completely bricked.

[10:00:51] It's gonna get further just yeah, it's a prototype burst

[10:01:13] You will just stack up all mechanics to infinite damage

[10:01:17] We go to the left and then like we always go to the left by the way on this one any orbers

[10:01:21] I'm sorry, I'm in here.

[10:01:25] I sometimes see Overlap with a dot.

[10:01:29] But now we don't have Overlap with a dot, so now I'm in here.

[10:01:33] Sometimes we have a dot and we get this root.

[10:01:37] Orbs? Yeah, okay, okay, okay.

[10:01:39] A we and then you just go one shot.

[10:01:43] And now it's a...

[10:01:45] What is it now? Is it just a big A we? Orbs in the way we?

[10:01:49] Defensives.

[10:01:50] Yeah.

[10:01:51] Oh.

[10:01:52] That's Warp for FizzKiller, I think.

[10:01:55] What a beast.

[10:01:57] What is Warp's nuts?

[10:01:59] Okay, Warp's care.

[10:02:00] Oh my, I don't care.

[10:02:02] We're gonna come with Fooly, though.

[10:02:05] Oh, is it Night's Tank Orb?

[10:02:06] He even told you to go.

[10:02:07] Hello?

[10:02:08] Hello.

[10:02:09] Mini Alkohol.

[10:02:10] Sorry.

[10:02:11] It's fine, Fooly.

[10:02:14] It's fine.

[10:02:15] It's fine.

[10:02:16] We now know.

[10:02:17] Yeah, it's good to run around with a tank.

[10:02:20] I'm gonna get all the headcuff you know

[10:02:24] I move orbs

[10:02:25] I predicts this boss, I do not know

[10:02:30] This boss

[10:02:32] This boss, how about boss

[10:02:33] It is not a big problem, it is very exciting

[10:02:35] And when we did it, we got the orbs orbs orbs

[10:02:37] Orbs orbs orbs orbs

[10:02:38] One second later, let me just go one shot

[10:02:42] Okay, it is dotting to ALEE, big damage, defenses

[10:02:45] Yeah

[10:02:46] I'm not even cloaking, orbs

[10:02:47] I'm actually empty

[10:02:48] I'm fine

[10:02:54] I'm dead

[10:02:55] Now it's a tank thing again, orbs in the tank

[10:02:59] the tank. Make sure to kill all of them. Yeah, that's fine. Oh, really? Are they

[10:03:13] coping? Yeah, I found that signal cooldown because I wasn't sure how much I was

[10:03:17] gonna do. My platform is in the orb.

[10:03:21] like this key is really free by the way

[10:03:31] this was actually a surprise in this one

[10:03:34] i got a diamond maxi

[10:03:36] oh that's an auto knife in heliport

[10:03:39] i would take it for how you can handle it

[10:03:44] it didn't look like a good helostats

[10:03:46] i mean this is really what i use in soviet peace

[10:03:49] I mean, you can have it if you want it

[10:03:51] I mean, you have the man I'm looking for

[10:03:53] I'll give you the man I can see now

[10:03:55] Okay, I go to bot

[10:03:57] Under in your hopeful shreds

[10:03:59] I'm the son

[10:04:01] You're the best in the techies thing I ever had

[10:04:06] Opt on the left, right by the son

[10:04:10] I think we can check the pilot

[10:04:18] You should have the one last dog shit

[10:04:20] I'm the son

[10:04:22] I'm the hero

[10:04:26] I'm the son, okay, you did nicely

[10:04:28] He popped up the ring, sending you for an Omega Master 1.

[10:04:31] Yeah.

[10:04:32] Yeah, it's left into Rage.

[10:04:33] I see.

[10:04:35] Do you also save it for the Sx?

[10:04:38] Yeah.

[10:04:39] Yeah.

[10:04:41] You'll save it and pop it on my Gavirings.

[10:04:43] Maybe it's a paper.

[10:04:45] I don't like it.

[10:04:47] Jesus.

[10:04:49] Let's have like Master Wings at some point.

[10:04:51] Oh, the pack is dead, bro.

[10:05:59] Yes, dude.

[10:06:16] How much do you get on this game?

[10:06:21] 6 to 18

[10:06:23] I'm 6'12 bro

[10:06:25] I don't raise the last thing

[10:06:31] The rest of the buff was pretty big

[10:06:34] How much did it?

[10:06:36] I mean, I don't know the exact percent, but the buff by 6% the rest of the buff

[10:06:45] I don't know what percent gain that is

[10:06:48] Depends on the sim I guess

[10:06:58] I have all

[10:06:59] Oh I saw many bosses, I thought it was this

[10:07:02] I guess I'm a...

[10:07:03] Bro, now you can get too many bosses in the same maze. That was never the case before, right?

[10:07:08] Really?

[10:07:09] Yeah.

[10:07:11] Really? Except for like, double frog?

[10:07:13] Yeah, I played frog and some other shit.

[10:07:17] That's the first time I've heard about it.

[10:07:18] I think I did like ten in this game.

[10:07:21] Yeah, I had it only once.

[10:07:24] So I actually have to check then, if I see one ready.

[10:07:29] I'm checking, I'm checking.

[10:07:30] What the fuck is that, bro?

[10:07:38] Where'd that guy come from?

[10:07:43] He said too many bosses, yeah

[10:07:48] Not wrong

[10:08:19] I'm gonna get this one

[10:08:22] I said the boss is strong bro

[10:10:55] I think I said the boss here

[10:11:01] I'm making sure that dude

[10:11:03] I never give back to the boss like so far

[10:11:14] I'm putting a trigger for this one

[10:11:16] I forgot that bro

[10:11:20] Waiting on the thing

[10:11:22] Well, don't boss, hello

[10:11:24] I don't understand it

[10:11:26] Bosses have to stop it

[10:11:30] I just faked my the boss actually

[10:11:33] I saw this

[10:12:04] yeah, yeah, yeah

[10:12:06] big as Frag

[10:12:08] keep up

[10:12:11] I'm betting on Bord

[10:12:12] keep, keep, keep, keep

[10:12:13] and BOOM there

[10:12:15] kill kill kill

[10:12:17] ohhhh

[10:12:18] ohhh

[10:12:19] it's fucking golly

[10:12:20] I'm in the place

[10:12:22] big as not

[10:12:33] Mr. Vash

[10:13:47] yeah

[10:13:48] yeah

[10:13:49] oh nice

[10:13:50] it's actually the

[10:13:51] Black Shazam

[10:13:53] You know us, right?

[10:13:55] How does it go with this point?

[10:14:13] Probably more than GKS at the same day

[10:14:15] Yes, slow and steady, you remember?

[10:14:27] Slow and steady with the red guys

[10:14:29] That's it

[10:14:30] That's how it rains, huh?

[10:14:31] Yeah

[10:14:52] It's like what it's all about

[10:14:53] All right

[10:14:54] Did I place on a Volker?

[10:15:05] Yeah

[10:15:07] Peace?

[10:15:08] Are we forced into everything?

[10:15:09] Oh my god

[10:15:10] Big different game

[10:15:13] Bigger pump

[10:15:14] Completely different game

[10:15:16] I hope you're ready to start practicing for the guy.

[10:15:21] There has to be.

[10:15:22] I can't wait.

[10:15:24] I'm sure you'll get longer rides.

[10:15:25] I'm still fucking high.

[10:15:27] Are we getting one out of the boss?

[10:15:34] Yeah for sure.

[10:15:35] We're early.

[10:15:42] I have 10 minutes to enter the raid.

[10:15:44] Hey man, start your raid, that's easy bro.

[10:15:46] The wipe can go against you, make it.

[10:15:51] Yeah let's do this out, okay?

[10:15:55] I can't wipe, we have levels.

[10:15:57] Can even go one more bro.

[10:15:59] I see you on pool?

[10:16:04] Yeah, I do.

[10:16:07] I have summer coming bro, I'm gonna pop out.

[10:16:10] I don't want to grab this anymore.

[10:16:14] I'm not as damaged by some healing.

[10:16:18] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[10:16:19] And extend? Last one?

[10:16:21] Yeah, where is it?

[10:16:27] You don't send the pet to kill him, GG.

[10:16:37] I wonder if this other Shag is better than Holy Shark now.

[10:16:39] That's your Faze?

[10:16:40] He drops.

[10:16:42] What's better than one?

[10:16:44] Faze and Shag and Holy Shark for pure damage.

[10:16:46] Pshh, please.

[10:16:51] No.

[10:16:53] No? Okay.

[10:16:54] I don't think so.

[10:16:55] Hey, what's that? What's going on?

[10:16:59] Let's see, it's solo in this boss.

[10:17:01] I'm stuck here.

[10:17:02] 50 seconds, bros, guys.

[10:17:11] I deep left for farm.

[10:17:14] Basically, I'm playing, I'm dead. I was gonna...

[10:17:37] He's running away from me. Oh, no.

[10:17:39] Oh, no.

[10:17:40] What's that stuck here?

[10:17:43] I'm actually wound.

[10:17:44] Boom!

[10:17:45] No, I'm not very brown, but...

[10:17:49] I'm much pumped, I'm much nice, you know.

[10:17:51] Actually, true.

[10:17:53] Because you think there is yes, I'm not in here. I'm doing that

[10:17:57] The same like five years later

[10:18:26] I didn't get it actually fuck

[10:18:31] What was has no

[10:18:34] That's fine. I don't need it. We can kill the boss. Okay

[10:18:39] Thanks for help boys. Yeah

[10:18:43] Good luck in there, bro. Thank you

[10:18:45] I like the channel

[10:18:52] I've never played Bluins so many times

[10:19:05] I've never played Bluins

[10:19:10] I know boy

[10:19:12] You missed that one

[10:19:14] I've never played Bluins so many times

[10:19:16] That's like the coructorians that everyone should have once

[10:19:21] That's possible, I can scoot when you're bored

[10:19:23] Yeah

[10:19:24] Actually that was all you did in the store

[10:19:26] We played this fucking Londoners game where you had to suck the mud

[10:19:46] What?

[10:19:46] The...

[10:19:48] ...fuck what?

[10:19:50] Numbers game?

[10:19:51] Yeah

[10:19:52] This was not like a step by the teacher, right?

[10:19:54] 4, 8, like, you know, you...

[10:19:59] ...called...

[10:20:00] ...6

[10:20:01] Oh, yeah, what you're talking about?

[10:20:03] You said...

[10:20:04] Sounds like something the teacher, like, told you to write in, huh?

[10:20:06] Oh, bro

[10:20:07] Something like that

[10:20:07] There's no way you played a numbers game for, like, of your own choice

[10:20:10] Yes, bro, it was...

[10:20:11] You're so nervous to play like math games or puns

[10:20:14] It's not a map game, bro.

[10:20:19] Why is Cush making sex noises the first of any?

[10:21:30] A nice meme, just for fun.

[10:21:35] Is this like weird homoerotic 2-step in a thing, all of...

[10:21:42] What's the question as well?

[10:21:44] Cush makes both things.

[10:21:46] They've not gone together before.

[10:21:48] Kinda weird job.

[10:21:54] It's fucked up.

[10:21:56] It's like a set-top thing in Norrido.

[10:22:02] I was muted, no way you believe me

[10:22:05] I'm like a kid, I'm like a guy, bro

[10:22:06] Yeah, no way

[10:22:08] Oh, I relived all that misty

[10:22:14] So, come on, juicy death, bruh

[10:22:17] Oh, we're not 15, let's go

[10:22:21] It's low

[10:22:22] Fucking bent

[10:22:31] Waking up the machine is actually, this is so exciting

[10:22:34] Whoever invented this must have invented City of Thuds

[10:22:36] And Elves

[10:22:45] I'm going to take a speed shot

[10:22:47] Have good luck

[10:22:49] Maybe I'm going on four

[10:22:51] Get them from everywhere

[10:22:52] I'm so bored of them just walking around pressing down on the buttons

[10:24:09] I hope they won't just see you up here

[10:24:11] Or...

[10:24:13] We both saw that

[10:24:15] She's not here

[10:24:16] I'm just peeing from the top

[10:24:29] I'm just going to jump towards

[10:24:30] So...

[10:24:32] Somebody's trying to see you up here bro

[10:24:35] We just saw her from the toilet or something

[10:24:40] I guess we're jumping

[10:28:29] Good morning everyone

[10:28:30] We have returned, rested and hydrated after our push-up exertions earlier

[10:28:35] I've came very close to getting beaten and pushed up by the girl. It was extraordinarily impressive.

[10:28:40] Huge gigachat or giga girl. I don't know which one's more appropriate.

[10:28:45] So we are, I would say moments away, but knowing I could have more like

[10:28:51] half hours away from pulling mythics of Lincourt. We haven't told they are going to go back in

[10:28:56] the Silicon Court. They've been spending this morning filling out their great vaults,

[10:29:00] doing mythic plus, doing some delves, getting some alt setup for next week. You'd have no

[10:29:04] idea what clean Antwrex is going to require so they want to go into the reset with everything

[10:29:09] prepared everything ready to go because whether Silkencourt dies today for Echo or not won't make

[10:29:15] an enormous difference in how next week goes but having your characters prep will.

[10:29:19] It definitely will because of course there are certain characters that we've seen so many

[10:29:25] people so many players play different classes in this and different roles as well

[10:29:29] in this race like more than what we've ever seen before I think.

[10:29:32] So having multiple characters prepared, especially because we don't know what Enstrack is going to do,

[10:29:37] and even if they managed to reach Enstrack as we talked about earlier,

[10:29:41] they will only be able to see Phase 1 a little bit, because there's only so much time left in a day,

[10:29:46] and at that point, it's not going to give you as much information to know what you're going to need later on, right?

[10:29:51] Because just because something is good in Phase 1 doesn't mean that we're stacking that,

[10:29:56] or that that's also going to be good in later phases, and as progression goes on a very difficult boss,

[10:30:01] it's like you optimize something for phase one, but then it turns out oh if phase two we need this

[10:30:04] completely different damage profile and we're gonna have to cut back on whatever are the good

[10:30:08] damage profiles for phase one. So it's very likely that their comp is going to be changing a lot

[10:30:13] throughout that DOS progression. I agree, I think that's absolutely true. In fact we saw an

[10:30:18] enormous number of comp changes occurring over yesterday's full day of progress on Sloth and

[10:30:21] Quirt Freco. Rotating through a large number of classes and specs, mages trying out frost,

[10:30:26] mages trying out fire, swapping the rogues around, adding warriors, subtracting warriors,

[10:30:29] adding shaman, subtracting tanks. Today we'll be bringing a tank back in. Of course there is also

[10:30:34] a morale argument, right? For sure. Liquid did kill Silicon Core today, congratulations to them,

[10:30:38] that is awesome. So there is some morale based pressure on Echo, they would like to be in a

[10:30:44] similar position as having killed the same number of bosses in week one, and of course they have

[10:30:48] all day to do so, so it would be a downer if you spend all day trying and fail to do so.

[10:30:53] I don't know that it would impact the race very much, but I do think it would impact

[10:30:55] the morale, right? Yesterday was really good for morale, right? Because Liquid went dark for

[10:30:58] for the Silicon Core progress for a large chunk of the day,

[10:31:01] came back and it looked like they were behind

[10:31:03] when Echo went to bed, progress all day,

[10:31:05] ended up killing it toward the end of the array day.

[10:31:07] So Echo would like to, for the sake of feeling

[10:31:10] like they're in the similar position in the race,

[10:31:12] kill the boss, of course,

[10:31:12] they get some additional loot,

[10:31:14] and that could be the fourth or sixth boss kill

[10:31:16] for some characters,

[10:31:17] which would open up another mythic vault option.

[10:31:20] So definitely benefits to killing it.

[10:31:21] They are planning to do so,

[10:31:23] they are stopping their upcoming,

[10:31:24] they're all currently finishing up their last activity,

[10:31:27] killing Zekvir here and getting ready to go in the raid.

[10:31:30] There may be some delay in it being Ekko.

[10:31:33] Oh, a little bit of a death there.

[10:31:35] There may be some delay in it being Ekko

[10:31:37] for them to have a meeting and discuss

[10:31:38] what they're gonna do.

[10:31:39] They do have to adjust their strategy

[10:31:41] because Siliconcourt, after yesterday's day of progress

[10:31:45] where Ekko is using a one tank strategy,

[10:31:47] Siliconcourt has been changed to four city use two tanks

[10:31:51] and nerfing the overall bosses health by 5%.

[10:31:54] So that's gonna have a pretty big impact

[10:31:56] their overall strategy. Yeah definitely, so you're gonna go back to the two tanking of course as we

[10:32:01] initially did at the start of aggression and that's gonna require them to make some change or to

[10:32:07] revert some changes that they've made because of the one tanking strut. I do think it's gonna be

[10:32:13] much easier for them to do tanking one tanking of course and it's not gonna be taking them much

[10:32:17] time to adjust to that but they definitely want to make sure. I think I like the fact that

[10:32:22] they're getting all of these chores out of the way first because otherwise you always because you

[10:32:28] don't know exactly how long it will take you to get these chores done and let me explain the chores

[10:32:33] like they're trying to fill their vaults with a plus 10s and just getting whatever weekly reset

[10:32:37] things they have to get done done right and if you don't want to be in a position where you're

[10:32:41] progressing um silicon quartz and at the back of your mind you'll know oh we still have to

[10:32:46] go and do nothing plus 10s right and you don't know exactly how long it's going to take you

[10:32:51] So the decision that they made is like okay we're gonna just get all of these chores out of the way however much it takes because we know we need those extra items and the extra gear for Unstract next ID.

[10:33:02] And then once we're done we can just fully commit to Siliconcourt and then they have a much better idea of when they want to end their raid day.

[10:33:11] Of course tomorrow also being the reset, meaning at 6am the servers are up, well hopefully they're gonna be up depending on their maintenance but they should be up at 6am.

[10:33:20] and that means that they want to go straight away into the raid or whatever it is they want to do at 6am

[10:33:26] that means that they don't want to go really long today

[10:33:30] yeah it would be a mistake to stay up really really late today just for the sake of getting a

[10:33:34] silkencourt kill that won't have a huge impact on the race because of course reset tomorrow

[10:33:37] means you just have to kill it again and mess up your sleep schedule when you're going to be

[10:33:42] waking up around five in the morning tomorrow to come in for a 6am of re-clear

[10:33:46] and it's really important to be on point for your Reclear and any potential splits you may do.

[10:33:52] Races in the past have arguably been determined by sloppy, slow Reclears, right?

[10:33:57] If you come and have a really crisp, tidy Reclear, not wiping too many times,

[10:34:01] smoothly going through the bosses that were hard in the previous week,

[10:34:04] you save hours of progression time to go and kill Sloth and Court and start getting an early

[10:34:07] start on the answer at progress. If you have a sloppy Reclear, extends in late into the day,

[10:34:12] maybe you don't get to progress, look in court, it takes you an extra day to do that,

[10:34:15] or kill slogan court then you're you're losing significant progress on the last boss

[10:34:20] This upcoming reset is going to be all about Queen Hemsirek

[10:34:23] So it would be a mistake I think for them to stay up to late

[10:34:25] They've announced to us already kind of internally that they intend to stop at 8 p.m

[10:34:30] Which is a little bit earlier than in the past

[10:34:32] They've maintained a really consistent sleep schedule so far this week right they came in at 6 a.m

[10:34:36] On the first day and then consistently we're playing from around 7 till around 9 30 or 10 every day since then

[10:34:41] tonight because they have to come back in at 6am again at that hour shift they're

[10:34:44] gonna stop at 8 instead of at 9 or 10 but a very small adjustment in order to

[10:34:48] get ready for the reset and I commend them for doing a better job than in any

[10:34:52] previous race maintaining a sleep schedule not pushing it further and for

[10:34:55] the back 10 30 11 11 30 12 12 30 one for that tindral kill right they've done a

[10:35:00] really really good job and I think they're gonna keep that up so probably

[10:35:04] stopping at 8 and I completely agree with you right getting the chores done

[10:35:07] in the morning means you can say okay the rest of the day still can

[10:35:09] Let's get this done and that's much better than okay. It's six o'clock at seven o'clock

[10:35:14] We've got an hour to bedtime. Should we stop or close we need to do keys the other alternative that they have

[10:35:22] available is the option of doing mythic splits

[10:35:27] Something that's happened in previous tiers if you come into a second reset is any characters that were potential names

[10:35:32] That did not go into the raid for mythic can do easy bosses on mythic and mythic split

[10:35:37] The people who are saved to this lockout go in on random alts of which they have an abundance and the people who didn't come into the

[10:35:43] Reset go do mythic splits

[10:35:45] This is a little bit of a weird tier because so many characters got locked to this lockout

[10:35:49] So we don't know how valuable mythic splits would be what kind of characters that have available that are potential mains that maybe

[10:35:55] They want to swap in for on site the biggest ones potentially being something like shadow priests, which you haven't seen at all

[10:36:01] Potentially extra druids, which we've seen very rarely

[10:36:03] I did take a look at some logs

[10:36:05] Yeah, right during the break and they have done two mythic olgrox splits at some point

[10:36:12] I think last night right before going to bed a little bit a little bit sneaky

[10:36:17] I didn't know they had done that they but only the first boss and looking at the logs

[10:36:20] It was really hard to tell who they were trying to gear up in it because they have so many characters

[10:36:25] I'm so I'm interested to find out if they might do the other three a couple of times

[10:36:30] It is very possible because of the difficulty being so low on these early bosses, right?

[10:36:36] For a split second, I had a thought when you were saying that there might be some characters

[10:36:43] that are unsafe, but there's so many that switched in.

[10:36:45] But I was thinking, okay, maybe there's some characters that they switched in, but they

[10:36:49] weren't actually part of the kill, but then you accepted the idea anyway.

[10:36:52] You accepted the idea, yeah.

[10:36:53] And the split second, I was like, wait, maybe now it doesn't have an idea.

[10:36:56] because he won't thank you so much.

[10:36:58] Now he's just sitting all the time for the one-time strats.

[10:37:02] Interestingly, he didn't complain that much when he was benched on Nexus Princess Kaveza

[10:37:08] and it didn't get changed.

[10:37:10] But he did tweet about being benched on Silicon Core and the now one gets changed.

[10:37:14] Yeah, good point.

[10:37:17] I did also want to talk about the Reclear because I think a lot of people

[10:37:21] that are watching the race so first

[10:37:24] are not necessarily aware of how much easier it is for a guild to re-kill a boss compared to

[10:37:31] killing it the first time. Now this is of course boss dependent. Some bosses are still hard to

[10:37:36] re-kill but that's very rare. Even a mechanically very difficult boss fight is much easier for them

[10:37:44] to kill the second time around. Not only because they have more gear but also because they have

[10:37:49] tried the boss so many times. Once they have killed the boss they could also kill it again

[10:37:53] the next pull and if they had 10 more pulls they probably would kill it twice again in those

[10:37:57] samples right because at that point they have the strategy down. The only like exception where a

[10:38:03] re-kill actually was very difficult was something like a laundress where the boss was so volatile

[10:38:09] but other than that even like something like a QVSA for example like the single target

[10:38:15] boss that took them so long to kill this time around it's gonna be a lot easier for them

[10:38:19] next time around even without any nurse coming through. It is, you know, I'm not saying that they're not

[10:38:24] going to wipe a single time, but it is very possible that they only have like a handful of wipes,

[10:38:28] even though it is a difficult boss. And then of course Blue Twister is going to get nerfed.

[10:38:32] And I think Silicon Court also a mechanically difficult fight, but the damage is not being

[10:38:36] too high. I do think that boss will also die pretty quickly if they kill it today.

[10:38:42] Yeah, I think that's a really good point. Usually reclears are massively smoother and

[10:38:46] easier than first clears. Not only because you have practiced the boss 200, 300 times,

[10:38:51] but also because you're going in with an extra 3 to 6 item level kind of guessing here. Based on

[10:38:56] how lucrative your great vault was and whether you got gear from the first four bosses, which

[10:39:01] dropped fairly easily, item level does an enormous amount of work for making bosses easier. You

[10:39:05] live more easily, your healers do more, your damage is higher. That usually multiplies

[10:39:09] through the boss because you get the inhibitions fast, you heal as fast, everything's easier.

[10:39:13] So I do agree, I don't think any of the bosses of this tier are like huge walls like Holandris,

[10:39:18] it'll be difficult to clear. In the past there have been examples of bosses where

[10:39:22] you had difficulty re-clearing, Art of Fister, Zymox for example, very famously Ekko really

[10:39:28] struggled with the re-clear because of the timings that boss had with Spell Cue and things

[10:39:31] like that. There was fear back in the Kahoon tier that Feted the Vower would be a wall

[10:39:36] to re-clearing. That that tier ended up being interesting. And then, of course, demonstrating

[10:39:42] your point, right, Jaina took several hundred pulls for Method to clear, but then they killed

[10:39:47] it, went into the reset, one shot it, no problem, and ended up killing it twice before their

[10:39:53] competitor did that tier, just because of how easy it is. Once you practice it, once you have your

[10:39:57] strat down, you've gone through it smoothly, that gives you the confidence and you get that

[10:39:59] extra gear. So historically, re-clears are significantly easier, not a big wall to progress.

[10:40:04] I would expect Reclers to be done within a day for both guilds and if they're not that's a failure

[10:40:10] Right because you really want this week to be all about on Sorak

[10:40:13] As early as possible. We are seeing the raid get put together here as we head back into Silicon Corps progress very soon

[10:40:19] I do see almost all the raiders looking at their second screen

[10:40:21] so probably getting a little bit of a tutorial from scribe who's been prepping raid plans and

[10:40:27] Strategies all morning

[10:40:29] Yes, and while they're preparing for the boss

[10:40:31] I did also want to talk a little bit about

[10:40:33] We all are dreading the Heroic Splits and we don't want to see them, but it is incredibly

[10:40:40] likely that we can see some more Heroic Splits next week as well.

[10:40:43] I just wonder when they're going to do them, because usually they want to get the Splits

[10:40:49] out of the way as early as possible for numerous reasons, to not waste any time playing

[10:40:54] bosses below our item level, because of how much easier it is to be having more

[10:40:57] at the level but then also in addition because you don't necessarily want to

[10:41:01] like like you play this game of chicken between like the top guilds right because

[10:41:07] if one guild reaches a phase of a boss faster like let's say they're all on

[10:41:10] Amzrak and liquid shows like a certain phase for first time then of course the

[10:41:17] EU guilds can see what they're doing getting some timers or what are

[10:41:20] getting some information and then they can apply to them so doing something

[10:41:23] that is efficient, that is not progressing the boss, you want to do that first to have that happen

[10:41:30] that the other guild shows you stuff that you don't want to like waste time on yourself. But

[10:41:35] you don't necessarily want to do split braids for characters that you might not want to use.

[10:41:42] So you need information on the boss before you can decide what kind of split braids you're

[10:41:47] doing. Absolutely and liquid in an enviable position at the moment as they were able to

[10:41:51] kills to look in court before the end of the raid day, go in and get a few

[10:41:54] sciency pulls we see from the competitive mode tracking that they did

[10:41:59] four pulls on clean answer, getting to 83% in phase one, so they got some data,

[10:42:02] got some information. As you spoke about earlier, right, with the boss-like

[10:42:05] answer, where it's an end boss, you have no idea what's actually gonna be

[10:42:08] happening, especially toward the end of the fight, those are being very vague

[10:42:10] and deliberately ambiguous about it, not being tested on the PTR. So it's

[10:42:14] not the best data, but it is some data. Another factor that can go into

[10:42:17] that is it might be worth waiting to do splits if you're concerned about finding

[10:42:23] out that you suddenly get to phase three and you have a situation where some

[10:42:28] spec becomes vastly more important than you thought it was and you want to make

[10:42:32] sure that you can do splits for that character and didn't use them as an

[10:42:34] alt to enable splits for something else right this has happened you know

[10:42:38] rarely in the past right I think I think the high malt here on you know

[10:42:43] impaired of Margot he had that secret phase in the last phase where in

[10:42:46] hand shaman became extraordinarily good because they could aoe the ads and they

[10:42:49] weren't good anywhere else. If something like that happened where suddenly

[10:42:52] something became amazing and you had disregarded that spec before, the

[10:42:54] obvious example here being like Shadow Priest. If you used all of Dota's Shadow

[10:42:58] Priest to enable splits for the characters, you get to the last phase and

[10:43:01] suddenly Shadow Priest is phenomenal. I don't know why, maybe master spells or

[10:43:04] grips or something become really really important. You would hate to be in

[10:43:07] the position where you couldn't then gear him up. So like you said, a lot

[10:43:10] of factors going on as to whether that weather and when they'll do

[10:43:13] Hero of Splits. I think my gut says that it's going to be more as an ad-needed thing, right?

[10:43:18] This tier, they spent a lot of time doing splits in preparation, but then when they got to new bosses

[10:43:23] and said, okay, we need a split for Can-X, we need a split for this character, okay,

[10:43:26] we're going to use another Death Knight, let's do a split for that Death Knight.

[10:43:28] And that kind of ad hoc as needed approach, both save time and ensures you always have the

[10:43:34] characters available that you might end up needing. And this has been such a volatile tier

[10:43:38] in terms of comp that that flexibility is very valuable.

[10:43:42] Yeah, that is very true.

[10:43:44] But it looks like we are finally back on the Silicon Court now.

[10:43:48] They are ready to fully commit to this boss now for the rest of the day.

[10:43:53] Well, that's just bold, of course.

[10:43:55] Unless they be mid-explosive and stop at some point.

[10:43:58] Well, I mean, I personally think that they're just going to fully commit, right?

[10:44:01] I think so too.

[10:44:02] And I think there's a chance they can kill it, right, at some point today.

[10:44:06] Obviously, Liquid showing that it's killable.

[10:44:08] A couple of interesting things to know.

[10:44:10] I think Thaynor has added the poison totem tracking to his bars that he wasn't tracking

[10:44:15] yesterday because they're rotating poison cleansing to take the poison dot off of the

[10:44:20] tank that the spider boss spams.

[10:44:23] And he has the backup poison to spell so we can see if the totems are or are not available

[10:44:26] before he spends that global.

[10:44:28] I'm sorry, I just couldn't dispel as well, I guess.

[10:44:31] Yeah, but canyx.

[10:44:32] Not the evokers.

[10:44:33] Yeah, and the evokers, right?

[10:44:35] three totems on a one-minute cooldown you can do it every 20 seconds just with totems and they cover

[10:44:40] six seconds each so you might not need to do too many to spells outside of those windows and I of

[10:44:44] course ideally you don't want dps losing globals if possible healer globals are much less valuable

[10:44:50] they are forced to abandon their solo tank strategy from yesterday blizzard has buffed the

[10:44:56] damage vulnerability that the tankbuster does from 100 to 1000 percent and in exchange they've

[10:45:02] they've reduced the duration from 1 minute every 20 seconds to 30 seconds every 20 seconds.

[10:45:07] So now you can easily alternate back and forth only ever having one stack, whereas yesterday

[10:45:11] you couldn't do that.

[10:45:12] I think it's interesting, we should keep an eye on comp, right?

[10:45:16] Yesterday we tried a bear and a brewmaster in the way we went to death knight and

[10:45:19] brewmaster in the way we went to death knight, currently keeping kennex in on that

[10:45:23] boomkin instead of going with the other guardian.

[10:45:24] Yeah, that is interesting.

[10:45:26] We definitely have seen Akko stick to the boomkin a little bit more than other

[10:45:29] guilds in comparison.

[10:45:31] Now, I definitely think that this whole meme with Moonkin being bad and stuff, a lot of

[10:45:39] people are like, oh, they aren't actually bad, has everyone been lying?

[10:45:42] In case some people don't know, Moonkin actually did get a pretty significant buff on the reset

[10:45:48] when they came out, in fact, a 10% single target buff, which is an incredibly huge

[10:45:54] number.

[10:45:55] That's a funky buff.

[10:45:56] Yeah, that's a lot of damage.

[10:45:57] like lies, there was some memes, Moonken was indeed actually very like bad and

[10:46:01] underperforming and so much damage. You can't trick chat. Every tier Moonken can say

[10:46:05] oh we're not viable or damage is so bad then they end up in the raid every time.

[10:46:09] What is that about? I do think that if that 10% buff would not happen then you

[10:46:13] could literally call Moonken like not viable I think in a raid. Like that 10%

[10:46:17] damage increase is actually like very like large. That's a huge, Kennings would

[10:46:23] be competing with a tank DPS if we didn't have Brazil's health buffs.

[10:46:26] And it is worth noting, even with those buffs, it's not good on...

[10:46:31] Yeah, it's definitely still average.

[10:46:34] On the Princess Kaiba as a kill, I'm not calling Kenix out here, performing admirably, he was

[10:46:39] last in DPS.

[10:46:40] Yeah.

[10:46:41] Single target damage is still not great.

[10:46:42] Now on Brute Twister, he was second in DPS because of the enormous work Starfall

[10:46:45] did.

[10:46:46] And I think on this fight he's going to do pretty well as well because of the extra

[10:46:49] adds and the cleave damage.

[10:46:50] the first damage window on the beetle when you take double damage, Kenix is typically top damage in

[10:46:55] that window because he sends a convoke depending on how many star surges I guess it mostly is about

[10:47:01] in that window. It's like dream burst as well, like it's like a hero talent thing with trees and

[10:47:06] whatever. You can do a lot of burst in Munkin nowadays with those new hero talents. It's

[10:47:12] actually really nice to play around it as well. It gives you something to look at

[10:47:16] otherwise the monkey rotation is pretty bland and now you have some damage windows

[10:47:20] some additional ones in the past famously we had this three minute cooldowns while

[10:47:24] everyone else seemed to have like much shorter than that and it seemed always to

[10:47:28] be like a little bit of a downside for monkey but now we actually had the two

[10:47:30] minute cooldowns and we do have that tier talent with the trees. I'm still a fan

[10:47:34] of the Keeper of the Grove here telling like it's playing around your trees

[10:47:37] it's like I don't know not the biggest fan but yeah that is what Kha'Nix is

[10:47:41] doing and he's getting some extra damage into this window unfortunately

[10:47:45] those damage windows that you have on the boss are a little bit strange.

[10:47:48] There's many classes that do not have their cooldowns lined up for it, so you have to

[10:47:54] really map out the whole fight and figure out when are we getting the 7th increase there,

[10:47:58] when is it then, does it make sense for me to hold the cooldowns for however long,

[10:48:03] or is it not worth it, and that's something that I really like about fights like these,

[10:48:07] where you really have to strategize, look at logs, look at timings, and really figure

[10:48:11] out your own kind of damage profile and just a moth.

[10:48:14] Well, they do have a lot of analysts helping with that.

[10:48:18] It's really interesting in this fight because the first two damage burst windows on the

[10:48:21] beetle are fairly scripted.

[10:48:22] They happen at 40 seconds to about a minute into the fight and then again 140 to the

[10:48:27] two minute mark before that first animation.

[10:48:29] After that, there's some wiggle room for the guild to manipulate it a little bit.

[10:48:34] If you extend the animation a little bit, then you change the damage windows in phase

[10:48:37] two.

[10:48:38] the second animation a little bit, you extend the damage windows in phase three. Ideally what you're

[10:48:43] trying to do is create a situation in which both bosses are stacked up for a damage window with

[10:48:49] cooldowns available and in one of those cooldown of it windows you're going to be using less than

[10:48:53] there's ways to manipulate that right. The beetle goes charging across, you try to stop him at

[10:48:56] the exact moment that he intersects the spider so that you have him stacked up for the

[10:49:00] damage window. Another thing they've been doing is trying to have beetles alive in phase one

[10:49:04] at the same time as the charge getting stopped so they can get some feed damage, some funnel

[10:49:08] damage on those. That's interesting because I think having extra adds up, it can only be a benefit

[10:49:15] for most classes. Like it's very rarely a downside, but for Moonkin unfortunately it is a downside,

[10:49:21] because Convoke can be hitting those adds. Convoke can do all kinds of random things.

[10:49:25] Yeah, they actually fixed it a little bit because the RNG of the Convoke was something that people

[10:49:29] have complained about because obviously whenever there are random adds then you can't do using

[10:49:33] single target damage anymore so now Convoke actually only stars are just your target

[10:49:37] it doesn't send the stars are just randomly out anymore but it still

[10:49:41] uses the other spells randomly so like your moonfires or your rafts or whatever

[10:49:44] so it's you still lose single target damage or having that stuff but not as much

[10:49:48] anymore which is a good change. I saw a couple pulls where Kenix Convoked during

[10:49:52] the Damage Amp all cooldowns popped and then you see like someone was a

[10:49:55] little bit low health and they get rejuve, regrowth on some random target

[10:49:58] It's not even yourself!

[10:49:59] What the heck?

[10:50:01] Losing convoked spells to healing Fraggo.

[10:50:04] What the heck?

[10:50:05] We have some comp changes from yesterday.

[10:50:07] This is an interesting looking comp.

[10:50:09] I'm going to be curious to find out what spec

[10:50:10] the evokers are playing, because Fraggo and Macyn

[10:50:13] have been experimenting with Double Og or One Dev

[10:50:15] or both Dev.

[10:50:16] So we have two DPS evokers, two DPS Warlocks,

[10:50:19] two DPS Shamans, two DPS Death Knights, two DPS Mages.

[10:50:23] So a relatively stacked of pairs group.

[10:50:26] And then you have one Demon Hunter for the debuff,

[10:50:27] one druid for the Mark of the Wild, one warrior for the shout, and of course your healer comp,

[10:50:32] which has been very interesting this time around. We've had some very strange changes.

[10:50:37] The first four bosses went exactly as you'd expect with evokers, then a priest and paladin

[10:50:42] for those kind of mandatory fortitude and oramastry buffs. The paladin got dropped on

[10:50:49] Brute Twister, which is like anasma. You would never drop your holy paladin before this expansion,

[10:50:53] He got dropped for a three healed double preservation of ochre holy priest combo and then got dropped again on

[10:51:00] Kaiveza for an extra preservation of ochre for raid healing again giving up that or mastery really interesting bringing in a

[10:51:05] Rep Paladin instead to bring the diva aura back in on this fight and doing extremely good healing

[10:51:10] It's a little bit less ideal for the evokers. Although they are still pumping

[10:51:13] So interesting changes happening with the healers this time around

[10:51:17] Those enhancements have been doing insanely good damage every single boss of the tier

[10:51:21] So I personally don't know that much about Enhanced Shaman, but I know that like in Dragonfly in Season 1, they had this insane potential of DPS, like when you would sim them, they had this like incredibly high number.

[10:51:35] But then it ended up being like a very big like RNG factor that they had, like the lowest damage they could do and the highest was like a huge large variance.

[10:51:45] And I'm not sure if that is still true.

[10:51:47] I don't think it is, I don't have science or sins behind me,

[10:51:50] but I do have watching several hundred polls of Kaiveza

[10:51:53] where every single poll the shamans were on top,

[10:51:55] and on the Kailbo shamans were the top two DPS,

[10:51:57] that seemed consistent, right?

[10:51:59] So they just have very high DPS.

[10:52:01] Could we maybe do a little run around the room?

[10:52:02] I see Jinji studying as a monitor.

[10:52:04] I think we're currently in school for the Silicon Court.

[10:52:06] I'd love to flash between all the POVs to see it.

[10:52:08] Yep, there we're looking at our other monitor,

[10:52:10] being studying our raid plans and our strategies,

[10:52:14] as Roger or Scrape explains exactly what we're doing.

[10:52:16] We are indeed in school. Look at all of our studious little students.

[10:52:20] Now is anyone not paying attention?

[10:52:21] Ah, Scrype lecturing the class at the moment.

[10:52:25] Are you bored, Ryson?

[10:52:27] That's just great.

[10:52:31] Ryson, I know all of this already.

[10:52:33] I thought this could be you.

[10:52:35] He said this yesterday.

[10:52:36] Yeah, so some strategy.

[10:52:38] Ryson was somebody that really paid attention in school all the time.

[10:52:42] I was like, really?

[10:52:42] You think so?

[10:52:43] Oh, yes.

[10:52:44] Yeah, he's a studious, intelligent young man.

[10:52:46] Yeah, I think so.

[10:52:48] There are people who are like very, like,

[10:52:50] they pay attention to very good at keeping up with video games,

[10:52:54] but then in school they're like, oh.

[10:52:57] True, we know some of those.

[10:53:00] I remember there's nothing to do with school and video games,

[10:53:02] there's like things they're interested in.

[10:53:04] Exactly. It's much easier to remain focused when you care about what's going on.

[10:53:08] Yeah, but then you have people like the rogues who just don't pay attention no matter what.

[10:53:11] I'm just gonna go hit the boss.

[10:53:13] Don't need to know any of this.

[10:53:15] Of course Echo has had the overnight to work on their strategy and refine what they learned from last night

[10:53:20] and then Liquid got very far and then killed the boss just a little while ago this morning.

[10:53:24] So Echo can learn some from those as well.

[10:53:27] Skrub's been working on Rayfiends all morning.

[10:53:29] So they are currently presenting the refined final strategy for slaying this boss, swapping over to the two tank strategy.

[10:53:37] And we will see how that goes once they stop discussing and begin pulling.

[10:53:41] Of course, we'll also take that opportunity to explain what's going on in the fight.

[10:53:44] We are still raising money for Games for Love, an amazing charity that

[10:53:50] donates to hospitals in order to provide them with gaming systems, consoles,

[10:53:55] video games, games of all kinds. They'll go to the hospital and say, hey, what do

[10:53:58] you guys need in order to give the children in your hospital relief from

[10:54:02] their current illness and distractions and time to beat kids and

[10:54:06] they'll do whatever the hospital needs including just going in and teaching

[10:54:08] them how to use the game systems operating for them, repairing them. They

[10:54:12] They also provide charitable care in developing countries where many children may not be able

[10:54:16] to afford and there are no systems in place to help them acquire the care that they need.

[10:54:20] Games for level go in and simply pay for that care, creating relations with the hospitals

[10:54:24] that can then transition to the point where they able to go back to games for these children.

[10:54:28] And they were founded in 2015.

[10:54:30] Some of the children that they were helping back then have beaten their diseases, right?

[10:54:35] They've gotten through the cancer or whatever they had and aged and are in a position

[10:54:40] where they spent months, if not years of their early life,

[10:54:43] hospitalized, not really engaging with school

[10:54:46] and job training and career opportunities.

[10:54:47] So Games for Love has created programs

[10:54:49] that follow these kids through their life,

[10:54:51] giving them scholarships, internships,

[10:54:53] and career opportunities, particularly in STEM fields.

[10:54:56] So really just doing everything they can

[10:54:58] for these children who are suffering an amazing charity.

[10:55:01] Now you guys have raised $22,000,

[10:55:03] it's $22,075 for thus far.

[10:55:06] Yeah, incredible charity,

[10:55:07] and thank you so much for all the donations.

[10:55:09] And like the last thing you mentioned about them helping out people to reintegrate into

[10:55:14] everyday life that is something that I personally like love a lot because I think it's so important

[10:55:19] and sometimes people forget about that just like that is a really big deal for them as

[10:55:24] well.

[10:55:25] So that is really, really cool.

[10:55:26] We do have another nation coming in by yo and they say yo yo $25 which on average

[10:55:34] Speaking to Nathan, the founder for Games for Love, on average, every dollar positively impacts a child's life.

[10:55:40] Even one dollar is sufficient to make that kind of difference, because they do everything they can.

[10:55:44] Even just going in and fixing a console that wasn't working right, or buying another game.

[10:55:48] So that's amazing, thank you so much. All you gotta do is drop that money in and say yo.

[10:55:51] We'll say yo back. No comment necessary.

[10:55:54] Who's the next cast of shift?

[10:55:56] Noon.

[10:55:57] Who's the cast of the shift?

[10:55:59] It is Alex and Mike.

[10:56:03] I like the mic. Maybe another push-up challenge for them later on.

[10:56:06] Hahaha!

[10:56:09] Could be. I think maybe all of the cash should have to go through it.

[10:56:13] But then it seems like we should have, you know, like, I don't know,

[10:56:16] turned into a tournament, right, drawn heats.

[10:56:19] Yeah, that would be great.

[10:56:20] I feel like maybe we had the most competitive set.

[10:56:23] I don't see anyone else doing 20. What do you think?

[10:56:25] You don't think so?

[10:56:26] No, I think Mike and Matic can do 21 more.

[10:56:28] I would like to see Mike and Matic do push-ups.

[10:56:30] Yeah.

[10:56:31] I think that would too. Remember to bring it up and see if it comes back on.

[10:56:34] I think if we picked anything other than push-ups, you would have been me.

[10:56:40] I don't think you're going to do bench press.

[10:56:44] Okay, maybe not weightlifting, but...

[10:56:47] Or arm wrestling, for a little bit else.

[10:56:51] I do have, you know, two pounds for every one of yours. So there are things that I

[10:56:55] could be happy. If we had done jogging, I would have been demolished, right?

[10:56:58] We should have hiked a mountain.

[10:57:00] I've never been on the mountain in my life.

[10:57:02] And I was gassed after the pushups.

[10:57:04] And you were just,

[10:57:05] that wasn't even close to my cardio sessions.

[10:57:07] I remember the other day I went to the gym

[10:57:08] and you were doing, you were biking when I got there.

[10:57:11] I did a full, you know, back workout

[10:57:13] and you were biking when I left.

[10:57:14] I'm just like exhausted looking at you.

[10:57:17] I had a great time.

[10:57:18] It was great.

[10:57:19] Played some Hearthstone.

[10:57:20] I won a lot of games.

[10:57:21] Nice, good work.

[10:57:22] Thank you.

[10:57:23] Yeah.

[10:57:24] So yeah, remember to remind the next shift chat

[10:57:27] that they need to do a pushup challenge,

[10:57:28] raise $500 to charity, do a pushup challenge.

[10:57:30] your job.

[10:57:30] Yep.

[10:57:31] All right.

[10:57:32] Continuing with school here.

[10:57:33] Okay, so Scribe's no longer presenting.

[10:57:34] Is it Roger or Potter currently presenting?

[10:57:37] I wonder, Roger's having, okay,

[10:57:39] Potter doing some talking.

[10:57:40] The Potter coming back of this tier

[10:57:42] has been a little bit of a game changer

[10:57:44] because not only is he extraordinarily good

[10:57:46] at micromanaging every single cooldown

[10:57:49] and the raid and guiding the raid through

[10:57:50] when you need to use Percival's health stones,

[10:57:52] all the other cooldowns,

[10:57:53] it's also enabled Rycen to return to the raid

[10:57:57] for the first time since the Jailer fight.

[10:57:59] He's been having a huge amount of fun and playing a crucial role as that priest healer in the tier

[10:58:04] It was funny to see him debate everyone with 17 million druid alts during splits

[10:58:09] But end up playing the priest as always

[10:58:11] Interestingly, holy for the vast majority of fights, although we have seen some guilds

[10:58:15] Experimenting with this one on this boss. I don't expect it to happen that holy arcane or archon

[10:58:21] Hero talent is just so extraordinarily good. You push halo

[10:58:24] radiates out and in striking repeatedly over the course of 10 seconds. Six total

[10:58:30] hits doing by far the most healing of the Holy Priest kit. It's just an amazing

[10:58:35] smart heal that just heals everyone in the raid for so much. And on this fight

[10:58:39] it has huge value because you can just hit everyone even though they're

[10:58:41] spread out. They're using a strategy that involves splitting into

[10:58:44] multiple camps and orbiting around the boss to soak each other's orbs. And

[10:58:48] that AoE healing is incredibly valuable. Interestingly enough, also Banner has

[10:58:54] been putting his beacons of light on non-tanks on this fight because the tank

[10:58:58] damage on this fight is ridiculously low and and inconsistent. The tanks take

[10:59:03] very little damage in weird little spikes and everyone else takes very high

[10:59:08] damage all the time so you get really good value from putting your beacons of

[10:59:11] light on anyone that's not standing in the stack. You have six people outside

[10:59:14] of the stack so that they can do the three webs necessary to stop the

[10:59:17] charge. Putting beacon of lights on them is extremely high value so if

[10:59:21] or doing that instead of playing with either Virtue or Tank Beacon.

[10:59:24] Something to keep in mind if you're Holy Palladium, your Beacon can go on non-tanks if you want.

[10:59:29] Yeah, definitely can. I actually had a Beacon on solo progression in the previous raids as a Moonkin.

[10:59:35] A good target for any defenses you have.

[10:59:39] And I was very grateful about that Beacon.

[10:59:44] Sometimes in high key pushing when I was playing with a Moonkin during a couple of seasons where they were really good, I would put the Beacon on them.

[10:59:49] because two reasons first they're kind of squishy and second they're always very

[10:59:53] far away yeah we gotta use our 45 yards range yeah always have to set 45 yards

[11:00:00] away you have to use your everything that we can to your advantage right yeah

[11:00:04] absolutely I'm gonna say as well that like as people have been asking are

[11:00:08] they gonna ventus and they already did banter princess a long time ago in

[11:00:14] In fact, all of the guilds did, but the thing is that we talked about this boss being a very different damage profile compared to Princess,

[11:00:22] and it is, we have a very different comp here. So there are a lot of people in there that already had Vantus Princess before,

[11:00:29] that they cannot Vantus Silicon Court now, but I'm sure that the rest of the Raiders that were not in on Princess,

[11:00:35] they are definitely, but they already did Vantus for this for sure. So basically, pretty much like the tanks,

[11:00:42] Maybe on its deathline instead of in Shaman.

[11:00:44] We can look later at the logs and find out exactly how many ventures we have, but you're

[11:00:47] right, there are several people in that weren't in on the princess that probably have now,

[11:00:51] so we have Thaynor on a different healer, Mini on a different DPS, a tank that was benched,

[11:00:57] Robin notoriously not good enough to be in the raid comp, benched multiple fights

[11:01:01] in a row.

[11:01:03] We can't help but notice that the tanks are just chain dying on Princess Cadet, really

[11:01:06] shameful.

[11:01:07] Yeah, honestly, that should come up on the feedback after we're done.

[11:01:13] Yeah, so yeah, I'll take a look at the Vantus runes after this.

[11:01:15] A couple other things that we're going to be looking for at the logs.

[11:01:17] How many characters do we have in the Vantus?

[11:01:19] Of course, you Vantus now.

[11:01:20] You're not getting Queen Ansewreck, but with maybe an hour or two of progress, Vantus

[11:01:24] isn't going to help you kill her.

[11:01:25] Vantus now to get through as fast as possible, so we'll check that.

[11:01:27] Also, Vantus is not very valuable anymore.

[11:01:29] It's a lot weaker than what it was in previous tiers.

[11:01:32] So I think that was true.

[11:01:34] They did buff the Vantus runes.

[11:01:36] Buff the Vantus again?

[11:01:37] they doubled its value or something so I no longer know how it compares to previous expansions it was

[11:01:41] very weak now it might be closer to on par it's still free verse which is worthwhile yeah i mean

[11:01:46] obviously better than nothing right like it's still valuable right much like it definitely was

[11:01:51] valuable for princess because i mean that was a very tight damage track it killed it in the

[11:01:55] mean i don't think yeah i don't think any of the guilds would have killed it without the

[11:01:58] damage rune no i think that's absolutely true of course variability and for damage of course

[11:02:02] yeah diversity providing some br and giving you some extra damage as well another thing we're

[11:02:06] we're gonna keep an eye on. So overnight after Ekko was done pulling for the day,

[11:02:11] Blizzard did hot fix the boss to fix the solo tank strategy. You can no longer

[11:02:16] solo take, you must 2 tank and as part of that they also reduce the boss health by

[11:02:20] 5%. We don't know yet, or at least I don't, whether or not that 5% nerf is

[11:02:26] only to their actual health or also to the two shields acquired in each

[11:02:31] intermission, which was a chunky amount of shielding. If that's based on

[11:02:35] their health, then that might also have been reduced. Now it's a flat value yesterday, and

[11:02:40] we'll just have to go take a look at that. I'm going to be curious to find out because

[11:02:42] that will obviously affect the viability of taking the shield to a certain point, and

[11:02:47] then holding damage for a little bit in order to finagle the timings coming out of just

[11:02:51] such a moment so that 3 minute cooldowns return when the charge comes. Because

[11:02:55] the intermissions you can stay in as long as you want, as long as you can survive,

[11:02:58] the damage ramps up and you can try to do it for an extra moment if you want to.

[11:03:02] that would enable big cooldowns to come up during a damage amp, right? And we have seen

[11:03:08] that the guilds are trying to arrange it such that you get the damage amp at the same time

[11:03:12] that both bosses are stacked, stopping the charge as the boss overlaps with the spider,

[11:03:16] and then popping big cooldowns. So you might need to do some perfect timing in order

[11:03:21] to get those results as the raiders are still in school staring at the other monitor

[11:03:27] learning how to scribe once in a while to kill this boss.

[11:03:31] Of course liquid killing the boss earlier means that they have a kill POV like they literally can look at what

[11:03:38] That doesn't mean necessarily they're gonna be

[11:03:41] Copying like the whole strategy from from from to end. I'll take the next day one

[11:03:44] Yeah, exactly, but they're gonna take the bits. They want that there's certainly some things that

[11:03:48] They probably did that they can just copy or try to do themselves

[11:03:53] One of them is like I do remember

[11:03:56] Hearing as I was looking at liquid a little bit. They did change

[11:03:59] And this is like later on in pastry they change the position of where they want to root the boss because they can actually determine

[11:04:06] Where the boss stops and where it gets the damage increase because you're the ones

[11:04:11] intercepting it with your tethers and

[11:04:14] Depending on where you put the tethers or the third tether

[11:04:17] That's where the boss is gonna be in place and that's where the boss gets the damage increase as well

[11:04:21] So obviously the position of that is gonna matter a lot to get like extra damage in if you want to get some

[11:04:26] and whatever I should talk about earlier so that is something that the liquid did

[11:04:30] optimize later on that they didn't think about earlier not sure if I could

[11:04:34] already have that in mind but stuff like that will be yeah so they can adapt to

[11:04:38] absolutely haven't yesterday certainly in phase one echo was trying to ensure

[11:04:43] that the bosses were the bosses being intercepted on a charge overlapping with

[11:04:46] the spider and at the Beatles as well to try to provide some fun in

[11:04:49] particular these shamans but obviously having a kill video gives you the

[11:04:52] opportunity to adapt whatever portions of that strategy you like and they

[11:04:56] They will certainly be taking advantage of that as they refine their strategy going into their final day in this lockout

[11:05:02] Liquid finishing their last rate of this lockout earlier today

[11:05:06] Killing Silicon Court going into Queen Amsewreck off-stream, which is of course natural in the correct decision strategically

[11:05:11] I'm doing a few polls to get some data and then going to bed to prepare for their Tuesday morning reset

[11:05:17] Which they're going to be coming in around 10 a.m. I believe because they have maintenance until 10 a.m. Yeah

[11:05:22] Echo has a relatively full day of raiding. It is currently 11 o'clock in the morning.

[11:05:28] They spent the first three hours of the day doing Mythic Plus, doing their vaults, filling

[11:05:32] everything out, all of those chores out of the way. Now they can focus on Silkencourt

[11:05:35] for approximately the next nine hours. They're going to stop at 8 p.m. today. They'll of

[11:05:41] course have a 30 minute break for lunch, 30 minute break for dinner. So eight hours

[11:05:44] or so of progress or progress adjacent activities such as Roger School to see if they can

[11:05:50] down the boss as well, which would be an enormous boost in morale. I think failing to kill this boss

[11:05:56] wouldn't have a long-term impact on the race because it's all about Queen Ants right next week,

[11:06:00] but it would be a downer, right? And a huge morale boost for Liquid for them to be the only

[11:06:04] guild to kill Silk in Court Week 1. Echo had great progress on the boss yesterday,

[11:06:08] getting it to 53% and getting some good P3 pulls outlining their strategy there.

[11:06:13] So I think they're absolutely going to be going for a kill, and the earlier the better.

[11:06:17] If they were, hypothetically, Copium, able to kill it within the next few hours, then they could conceivably, instead of just having a few science polls on Kleenex Rik, do a couple of hours on Kleenex Rik and learn some significant amount of information.

[11:06:31] Yeah, that of course would be ideal. That is what they're aiming for now. They're not going to be mad if they don't manage to do that because obviously that would be better than what they're thinking is going to happen, but it would be ideal.

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[11:09:13] keyboards being used as they try to get these bosses down world-first mirrors

[11:09:19] back in school. Something completely off-topic while we wait for them to

[11:09:22] pull the boss. If you need to memorize something like in this case like if you

[11:09:26] have to like stay the sponsors in a row, like obviously we do know the

[11:09:29] sponsors but sometimes if you just say them all in a row you do like

[11:09:32] memorize them somehow right in like a certain order do you have like a certain

[11:09:36] like strategy to memorize them well okay what do you do I make a song a song yeah

[11:09:42] that's interesting I if I have to memorize always different song no it is

[11:09:47] the exact same song everything okay that is very cool yeah ever since so in in

[11:09:53] sixth grade our teacher made us learn the Greek alphabet oh okay and she used a

[11:09:58] song for that and I use that song to memorize anything that has a listing

[11:10:03] owner to it. You should contact that teacher and tell her this. He's gonna be

[11:10:07] very happy about it. Mrs. Randall, thank you for this mnemonic

[11:10:12] technique. It is now enabling me to read off lists of sponsors. The only hard

[11:10:16] part is that the song is going in my head and I have to be careful not to

[11:10:20] sing while I'm doing it.

[11:10:22] Oh, I see.

[11:10:23] Yeah.

[11:10:24] Next time maybe I'll sing our sponsor list in the tune of the Greek Alphabet song.

[11:10:32] This should be a foundation goal.

[11:10:37] The only, yeah, I mean, what do you do?

[11:10:41] So I do this thing where I imagine like a physical space that I'm very familiar with,

[11:10:48] like my apartment.

[11:10:49] I'm very jealous.

[11:10:50] So like I open the door and then the way I did it for this time is like I open the door

[11:10:54] there's a display on the floor and then there's a secret lab chair well because

[11:11:00] that's to be the path right so it's it's it's on the floor and then there's a

[11:11:04] secret lab chair then Jinji sitting in it it's just games for gamers and then

[11:11:10] he's sitting on a desk where there's a Star Force PC and then between the

[11:11:14] stars Force PC and the computer screen and there's a wall it's a

[11:11:19] NordVPN wall.

[11:11:21] Oh, okay.

[11:11:23] Yeah, it's just like, you know, like,

[11:11:24] security, you know, like covering security,

[11:11:26] security, yeah, like our NordVPN security

[11:11:28] screen. Exactly.

[11:11:30] And then I had an easy time

[11:11:33] remembering, like, after a course

[11:11:35] there, because, you know, it's just a

[11:11:36] keyboard and it's a screen.

[11:11:38] Yeah. And Maxwell was on this

[11:11:40] screen then.

[11:11:41] Like a guy was up on this screen.

[11:11:44] Yeah, I've I've so so the

[11:11:46] memory palace is a very famous and

[11:11:47] I've tried it, but I can't do it.

[11:11:50] It doesn't work for me because this is going to sound really funny.

[11:11:54] I have a horrible spatial awareness.

[11:11:57] I get lost all the time. I can't keep track of where I am in turn.

[11:12:01] So when I go through my memory palace, I get lost.

[11:12:04] Oh really? Well, that's why I put it in very small spaces though.

[11:12:07] Memory palace usually is you go through the rooms.

[11:12:10] Yeah, you walk through several rooms.

[11:12:12] I also have very bad orientation and stuff like that.

[11:12:15] into stuff like that so I really have it like in shorter space like it's open

[11:12:19] door and it's all there. Now is this room like something an actual room from

[11:12:23] your childhood or from your life where you go into like a bedroom? No, this time it was my office.

[11:12:26] Like where? Your office. Yeah and sometimes just my apartment and just like that the first like

[11:12:30] area it's all there. As I look in I can see it all like immediately. I might try that.

[11:12:35] You should try the song. I should try the song. You're gonna tell me the song.

[11:12:39] Yeah.

[11:12:40] Alphabeta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon, Zeta, Aeta, Theta, Iota,

[11:12:43] Oh, okay.

[11:12:44] I'm on the new side.

[11:12:44] Omicron, Pyro, Sigma, Pha, Upsilon, Pha, Kaisai, Omega.

[11:12:49] That's a song.

[11:12:50] I use it for every day.

[11:12:50] That is very cool.

[11:12:51] And I'm glad you still remember all of those Greek letters.

[11:12:55] Yeah, I've gotten a lot of use from that.

[11:12:56] Thanks, Mrs. Randall.

[11:12:57] Those Greek alphabet are really, really valuable.

[11:12:59] That is very cool.

[11:13:00] I love that.

[11:13:04] Very cool.

[11:13:04] Displatel, God of Crosshair, and Star-Four.

[11:13:07] You just put it in the letter and it works.

[11:13:08] you just remember it but then you have to say nor do the end secret lab far

[11:13:12] forward and not see the song

[11:13:19] yeah and then usually when I do the mind panels me I also like this I'm I didn't

[11:13:23] do it too much except for Jinji but sometimes it's easy to forget it's

[11:13:28] just if it's too normal yeah so sometimes I imagine it like like for

[11:13:32] example it's like a super oversized display that is because then I remembered

[11:13:36] room and it's like why and I go in it's like why is there it's huge just like it

[11:13:39] there or because they're sponsored yeah what about what about like a really big

[11:13:44] scimitar yeah it has to be like that for you to for it to be memorable because

[11:13:50] otherwise you might just forgot about it doesn't work for the XXL mouse pad because

[11:13:53] they are that large I guess it's a tiny one huge mouse on a tiny mouse pad you

[11:14:02] can't even see it. Comp Sting stable as they learn how to do the fight. How long will this

[11:14:12] wine time extend? Always the question. It is lunchtime. It's very soon lunchtime. It's

[11:14:19] 12 minutes. They normally do their lunch at 11.30 which is in 12 minutes. Will we get

[11:14:25] a free lunchtime pool? I would love to because then we could get some data from it. I'm

[11:14:28] curious about a lot of things. Damage, obviously how far they go, the two tank strategy, how

[11:14:32] they're handling those tank swaps, whether the shield has been reduced, DPS relative to

[11:14:36] boss health. There's a lot of great data we're going to be acquiring.

[11:14:38] We could talk through the boss a little bit, because it is possible that there's some

[11:14:42] people here that maybe haven't seen this boss for a while.

[11:14:45] Even if they're armed. We can pretend that they don't know. Chat being our chat

[11:14:49] being the smartest, most sophisticated best gamers in the world, many of whom have

[11:14:53] already killed this boss. Probably don't need it explained, but we can do that anyway and they'll

[11:14:58] indulge us, right? They'll pretend to learn so that we have the opportunity to fill the silence

[11:15:02] with our ear addition and intelligence and the fact that we have successfully memorized all of

[11:15:06] these boss mechanics. I think that that's a great point. Yeah, so obviously this boss has,

[11:15:11] there's two bosses. The bosses share health, that's one important thing to note. So there's

[11:15:16] no such thing as one that boss dying earlier or that you have to like switch back and forth,

[11:15:20] So that is already important to know. And then each boss has different mechanics in phase one.

[11:15:25] You do have the main mechanic from the Scarab dude, which is the ride boss.

[11:15:30] Then one will eventually like go to the corner of the room and charge

[11:15:34] through the middle, which has to be stopped by the players. And it's actually a mechanic from

[11:15:38] Skeenspinner from the other boss that allows you to do that by spawning these kind of like

[11:15:42] web these spider webs on the floor. You have to pick them up by having two players go

[11:15:47] close to it or into it and then you will be tethered to that person and you have to use

[11:15:52] that tether to make sure it's across the charge of the scarab dude and then if you have at

[11:15:59] least three of these tethers then the boss will be interrupted and it will be a damaging

[11:16:05] person in the boss 100% damage increase in fact and if you don't interrupt it then

[11:16:10] the boss will charge towards the wall and it will basically wipe the raid but it's

[11:16:14] No way is it possible to do that. Not on mythic, I don't think.

[11:16:17] Yeah, that's absolutely true. So that's phase one. There's a lot going on in the background.

[11:16:22] We'll talk about phase one now and the mid phase two later, because there's a lot more to explore here.

[11:16:26] So that was a great explanation. Now, the mythic mechanic changes it a little bit,

[11:16:30] because when the boss fight starts, you have a few seconds to go next to one of the bosses.

[11:16:35] One will be red, one will be purple, and you have to soak that circle around them in order to acquire the same color.

[11:16:41] color only 10 people can get one color you can't have 11 12 or 13 get the same

[11:16:45] color so you have to split the rate 10 and 10 10 red 10 purple after that red and

[11:16:49] purple cannot touch if you're a red player you touch purple player you both

[11:16:52] die you get a you get a killing blow called betrayal and you just become

[11:16:56] instantly deceased because you've been betrayed by a so-called friend much

[11:17:00] like these two hate each other they're setting it up so that you guys

[11:17:02] hate your own rate after that periodically the bosses mechanics will

[11:17:06] spawn orbs. If you're a red player, you drop a red orb. If you're a blue player, you drop a blue orb.

[11:17:12] Those don't interact with you at all. If you're a red player, you drop a red orb. That red orb is

[11:17:15] never going to do anything to you. If you soak it, it doesn't go away. It doesn't give you a dot.

[11:17:19] If you fail to soak it, when it is floated, it doesn't hurt you. You only get hurt by the

[11:17:22] opposite color. So when red players drop red orbs, the purple players have to soak those

[11:17:26] orbs. If they don't soak it, everyone that's is that color gets a stack of a debuff. So if

[11:17:31] if a red orb goes unsoaked, every purple player gets a stack of a debuff. If that debuff hits

[11:17:36] three, you all die. If you soak the orb, the one person who soaked it gets a debuff, and if he

[11:17:40] goes to three, he dies. Which means that at any point, if you miss an orb, the ten people that

[11:17:46] were supposed to soak all of the orbs now all have one, and they can, you can soak ten fewer

[11:17:50] orbs than you otherwise could have been, which means one missed orb in the intermission can be

[11:17:54] a wipe, because everyone gets too many stacks and dies. Interestingly, when you do the web

[11:18:01] mechanic in phase one, in order to draw the webs across the path of the beetle, in order to

[11:18:05] can stop him from charging. Soaking that web creates an orb of each color. So the players

[11:18:10] have to soak the web in order to come tether together. That spawns an orb and then they

[11:18:15] have to rotate around to soak each other's orbs while stretching the web to stop the

[11:18:20] charge. During early pulls they were doing that very, very early. Get the web, soak

[11:18:23] the orbs, make sure we have enough time and then stop the charge. They've tightened

[11:18:27] that timing significantly over the several pulls they did yesterday to the point

[11:18:30] where now they're just barely have enough time to soak, rotate, and then stop,

[11:18:35] which makes this really cool kind of orbital interaction.

[11:18:38] Yeah, and for this to be able to be done, they have to tether with opposing colors players, right?

[11:18:46] So it's one red player is tethering themselves with a blue player to be able to soak each other's orbs

[11:18:51] that you're creating when you get tethered, which is a very cool strategy,

[11:18:55] because initially when I was playing this boss on beta testing,

[11:18:59] I was thinking, yeah, obviously you're gonna pick up the player, the orbs with the same color.

[11:19:04] So you can touch another player. Yeah, but yeah, you don't actually have to be so close

[11:19:08] when you pick up the tether, so it's actually a very smart idea to have those opposing colors.

[11:19:13] Yeah, that way you can handle it just in your pair instead of having to coordinate with another

[11:19:18] pair. They do a similar thing in the intermission where you have, so the way this is

[11:19:21] gonna work is you're gonna have two groups in melee, which are comprised of the vast majority

[11:19:24] of the raid, rotating around purple and red, and then your sad light groups of two, three

[11:19:29] groups of two on the outside.

[11:19:31] So here we're going into a pull, Shroud goes up to help everyone get closer, you get a

[11:19:34] weak aura saying get either blue or red, everyone gets close to get these orbs if you

[11:19:37] fail to get that, you will die and not even be resable.

[11:19:41] Now everyone has those colors, we're going to go into phase one's first mechanic, which

[11:19:45] is a venomous volley.

[11:19:47] Everyone's going to get a green circle around them, they need to spread out,

[11:19:49] that puts a dot on them, and it spawns the first set of orbs on everyone.

[11:19:53] and you're going to see the entire group rotate around in order to soak one or two but not three

[11:20:00] of these orbs before the sword over the orb hits the orb. When that sword of Democles hits the orb it

[11:20:06] explodes applying to everyone. There's one there on the web that needs to be picked up as we already

[11:20:12] have two deaths at the start of this pull and they're exploded. Everyone gets another stack

[11:20:15] that kills Revis as well. Yeah so what happened here very likely is that Frago and

[11:20:23] hopeful were a pair that are supposed to pick up the tether and I think they probably just

[11:20:28] went a little bit too close to each other and blew up, which means that they were not

[11:20:33] able to continue to fight anyway because if they lose that tether pair it's basically

[11:20:37] a why because they're not going to be able to stop the boss anymore.

[11:20:41] So yeah, that is how that phase 1 works now.

[11:20:44] The intermissions are a little bit different.

[11:20:46] So in the intermission one boss just disappears and the other one casts like a special

[11:20:51] mechanic. On the first intermission you have Skeenspinner, that is the boss that is active

[11:20:56] while the Scarab Lord is gone. And Skeenspinner just stands in the middle of the room and starts

[11:21:02] throwing out these webs in kind of like pizza slices. And it's random how she throws them

[11:21:08] out. They do eventually cover the whole room but in a staggered fashion, so we're able

[11:21:12] to dodge them accordingly. And the way they have been dealing with that mechanic is that

[11:21:16] Oh, there's also pulsing damage in that base that does spawn modes.

[11:21:20] This is very important because these modes, of course, as we talked about earlier,

[11:21:24] have to be soaked by the pulsing colored team.

[11:21:27] So you have two camps, basically, that are on different sides of the room.

[11:21:33] And then when you spawn the modes, you're rotating around,

[11:21:36] very similar to Sight and Atheris's last base on Mythic.

[11:21:39] And then you soak the other team's orbs,

[11:21:41] which can sometimes be really close, depending on how the pizza slides are spawning.

[11:21:46] And while this is all happening, the boss does have a shield that you have to neuter through, and the longer this shield is up, the more damage you're taking from the opposing damage in this phase.

[11:21:54] So that is kind of like the soft kind of enrage of the intermission phase, is that you just need to, at some point, just you won't be able to survive the damage anymore.

[11:22:02] But other than that, that phase technically does last almost forever.

[11:22:07] But yeah, there's basically an opportunity for the raid to say, OK, we're gonna stop damage because we need some cooldowns to be back up for that phase.

[11:22:15] If the damage that is incoming to the raid is still healable, then they can technically delay the demissions for a little bit.

[11:22:21] Because the end range of this fight is actually only based off of phase 3.

[11:22:25] So you can save in phase 1, phase 2, and demissions as technically as long as you want, as long as you're able to deal with the mechanics and the incoming damage.

[11:22:32] Can we go to Penguin Disco POV and ranged POV here so we can watch them pick up this web mechanic?

[11:22:38] Because as this burrow is cast, the boss is going to get ready for charge.

[11:22:41] They're gonna pop those webs get their orbs soaked as they rotate around and then stretch across. Oh, no

[11:22:46] He went too far broke his web and the boss was able to charge you very very close to being perfect

[11:22:51] But as you can see it's a delicate operation first

[11:22:53] The boss cast burrow which means they have about five seconds of the charge

[11:22:57] They break the webs on the ground giving them the binding rotate around each other to soak each of those orbs and then stretch

[11:23:02] It but there he was found to someone who I believe blinked across and he was just positioned slightly too far for the blink and

[11:23:09] and ended up breaking the web, because if you go too far the web breaks,

[11:23:12] if you stay close enough, then it is stretched across the path of the beetle

[11:23:16] and it destroys, it stops the beetle.

[11:23:19] What I'm wondering, Negro, and I think you'll be able to answer this,

[11:23:23] is how is the web simultaneously strong enough to stop the beetle's charge

[11:23:30] and yet so fragile that moving too far apart breaks it?

[11:23:33] Could you describe to me the mathematical physics of this tensile strength?

[11:23:37] Yes, so, it makes sense, because obviously the longer you stretch it out, right, like

[11:23:48] something that is stronger when it's less stretch, and the further you stretch it out,

[11:23:53] the weaker it gets, right?

[11:23:55] So at some point it will snap, but once it's in the not-snap position, it will be

[11:24:01] Well done!

[11:24:02] Very fair, it's like very close for it, like if you're just like one centimeter before it breaks,

[11:24:09] I would kind of assume that it should technically be not so strong for it to stop.

[11:24:14] But we do know that of course, other than this fact, the game obviously always follows

[11:24:22] all of the laws of physics, except for this tether here.

[11:24:26] Alright, so we're getting ready for the burrow, so we see our pairs collecting those webs,

[11:24:30] webs rotating around to soak the orbs and then we'll stretch across. This is

[11:24:33] attempt number three. I see two ebbs and ones behind it so it looks good. The boss

[11:24:38] is gonna get stopped and stunned here. Now they don't have them stacked up for

[11:24:42] cleave during this double damage window which would have been ideal but of

[11:24:45] course that boss teleport so it can be difficult to arrange. Now interestingly

[11:24:49] here the first set of dots from the first Venomboly expires before the

[11:24:53] second set of dots comes down but the third set comes down before this

[11:24:58] second set expires. So before the next venomous volley you are going to see as many people as

[11:25:03] can immune they pre-immune the application of the dot so that they don't have two stacks because

[11:25:09] the two stacks tick for about a million damage every two seconds on everyone to the two stacks.

[11:25:14] So you see here we see ice blocks going out turtles going out bubble going out AMS going

[11:25:19] out so that only about half the raid has a double stack and of course when the venus

[11:25:23] volley comes out you also get a wave of orbs to soak there are three volleys in phase one

[11:25:28] and three waves of orbs. We're now doing the second charge.

[11:25:32] Yeah, second charge coming in, Pangondisco moving on the other side

[11:25:35] while Jinji is trying to stay close so the tether

[11:25:38] does not break and they did indeed successfully stop the beetle from

[11:25:42] charging towards the wall and doing damage to the whole raid and basically

[11:25:45] wiping them and they do have the extra damage increase here as well as we

[11:25:48] talked about 100% damage increase. A little bit of an awkward time here

[11:25:51] it's 155 into the boss fight which means that

[11:25:55] that your 2 minutes are just barely not ready, and you're staring at your 2 minutes like,

[11:25:59] oh, I thought it was just waiting a little bit longer, but unfortunately do see 3 people

[11:26:02] go down here though.

[11:26:04] Presumably, a mythic mechanic most of the death.

[11:26:08] Yeah, that was a mythic mechanic death, unfortunately.

[11:26:09] So we are down a healer going into the admission, which is going to make this much

[11:26:13] more difficult.

[11:26:14] You see those slices of web go out, and every time the damage pulses, a row of

[11:26:19] orbs is created by everyone.

[11:26:21] With 2 players down, it's going to be very, very hard to do this.

[11:26:23] In fact, we have several deaths occurring already.

[11:26:25] If one orb is missed, that sword above it hits the ground, then everyone gets a stack and then you can't soak the orbs, and they are working on this movement, but it is not clean.

[11:26:34] Now, when this pull ends, I'm going to go over to the Analyst Desk and pull up a replay of one of yesterday's good pulls so we can show all of the orbital mechanics of this physics-oriented fight.

[11:26:44] I think that would be fun to show because you can actually see them rotating around when it goes well, but a little bit of reprogression this morning.

[11:26:50] Yeah, it is also possible that they maybe are just changing some stuff in phase one

[11:26:56] That they came up with overnight

[11:26:58] Maybe this liquid do something different that they want to like maybe adapt to as well or at least give it a try

[11:27:02] And of course they're changing their their comp a little bit with the two tankings

[11:27:06] So some changes to this to their strats

[11:27:10] and

[11:27:11] Some people ask oh, but why would you change a strategy when it worked for you the last time?

[11:27:16] but sometimes optimizing a strategy to prevent

[11:27:20] Phase 1 wipes later on basically is the reason why you're like regressing for a

[11:27:27] little bit because then once you're used to this strategy if they think that this

[11:27:30] would be a more successful strategy later on a more consistent strategy it does

[11:27:34] make a lot of sense if they think of course it's valuable if they need to

[11:27:38] have that consistency in phase 1. Absolutely true so I will be able the

[11:27:43] next time they take a little break or perhaps when they go to the lunch break

[11:27:46] I can show the orbital mechanics I don't want to miss a pull right now

[11:27:49] because it'll take about 30 or 40 seconds to show exactly what's going on.

[11:27:52] Hopefully they are able to get that improved. We had an early death there.

[11:27:55] It was indeed, as we assume, a terrific mechanic.

[11:27:58] There are other things that can kill you. The boss does a lot of damage,

[11:28:01] but yesterday and today, thus far, the vast majority of deaths are too.

[11:28:06] That mechanic on that occasion, Fanner, Velo, and Narco touched,

[11:28:11] and they were not the same color. If everyone does purple touches, no problem,

[11:28:15] But if purple touches red you die the three of them collided two minutes and five seconds in the fight causing a betrayal death

[11:28:21] Which has some great text on it, right? This is a very fun boss because they've explained

[11:28:25] The reason why the skynes spinners mechanics hinder the beetle and his mechanics hinder hers is because they hate each other

[11:28:34] They're both advisers queen answer like and they're vying with one another for power

[11:28:37] So similarly we each pick a camp and join their camp and now we hate each other too

[11:28:43] and when you touch the other camp, you get a betrayal kill. Instant, unlimited range.

[11:28:48] Your so-called ally inflicts lethal damage upon you. So that's really, really fun.

[11:28:52] The Skynespinner, of course, spinning those webs, which we then use to stop the beetle,

[11:28:56] and the beetle puts out those stinging swarm insects that we then use in Phase 2

[11:29:01] to stop the spider. I didn't want to say as well, I guess, that this yesterday already is like

[11:29:07] this Queen Ancerek. Like, she really does not have her underlings under control.

[11:29:11] like first she has a spy which of course princess Kavessa that apparently we've seen too much and

[11:29:17] that's why she's killing us but she her plan was to kill Queen Anzrak all along and now we prevented

[11:29:21] her from from killing Queen Anzrak so like we're kind of helping the Queen here and now the two

[11:29:28] penultimate bosses here that are supposed to be her main advisors are fighting with each other

[11:29:34] and are not focusing on their task to protect Queen Anzrak because if Skanspringer would not

[11:29:40] be putting those webs out. We would not be able to kill this boss and then we would not be able to

[11:29:44] reach Queen Anstrac. So yeah, Queen Anstrac, you need to like look at your employees. This is horrible.

[11:29:51] Yep, unfortunately there we did have one of our ranged camp go down so the charge went through.

[11:29:56] We're sending three pairs of two out in the range in order to collect those webs and if even

[11:30:02] one of them messes up, soaks an extra orb, touches each other so that they get the trail

[11:30:07] and die, then you just don't have the webs in order to succeed.

[11:30:10] Interestingly in phase three, so the structure of the fight is also very good.

[11:30:14] Borderline Shakespearean I would say, right?

[11:30:16] Phase one, you're dealing with the beetle and his special mechanic, then you go into

[11:30:19] the intermission where Skynespinner empowers herself and now in phase two you're dealing

[11:30:23] with her and her special mechanic until you go into the intermission where the beetle

[11:30:26] empowers himself and then in phase three you're dealing with both of them.

[11:30:29] In phase three, interestingly enough you have far more webs, the Skynespinner pulls

[11:30:33] everyone to herself, you get webs from that, you can choose to break them or

[11:30:36] not so you can come out of that with extra webs a safety margin to stop but in

[11:30:40] phase one we're only using three one of them goes down it is a wipe

[11:30:44] inevitably unfortunately is as they are resting it looks like they're definitely

[11:30:50] gonna do at least one more pull we are nearing that lunch break for the echo

[11:30:56] players here so we'll see how much longer they want to go of course the

[11:30:59] lunch is gonna stay here no one's gonna steal it so that's not true I'm

[11:31:03] running off to get some right away.

[11:31:05] So they can delay the lunch break,

[11:31:06] but if they think they want to get some more pulls in,

[11:31:10] want to see if the strategy that they're currently trying out

[11:31:13] or if the changes they made is worth it,

[11:31:16] otherwise they might talk about it during lunch break.

[11:31:18] I think this is very, very valuable for them

[11:31:20] to get the information in, that they can have,

[11:31:22] they can discuss it during lunch break,

[11:31:24] which technically it should be using

[11:31:25] to think about other things and like get their mind off,

[11:31:27] but we all know they're going to be talking about the boss.

[11:31:29] Yeah, especially as the race has heated up over the past few days,

[11:31:32] lunch break is full of everyone's speculation as to how the boss is killable, what comp they want

[11:31:36] to try, what strategy they want to try. So yeah, that is happening a lot. As we do look like we're

[11:31:42] going in for another pull, the shroud goes up, they advance closer, the weak aura says get blue

[11:31:47] or red, and it gives you a map of which one's which. Excellent, so you can't get lost.

[11:31:53] Picking up those blue orbs over on the left, those red orbs over on the right, and then

[11:31:57] Our two melee camps set up on either side of the boss and prepare to rotate around.

[11:32:02] The tank mechanics seem to be going fairly well today after the changes.

[11:32:06] We have Mirrors tanking the boss for the first tank buster and then now taunting in order to take

[11:32:12] the second. Venomous rain coming down. Healer's doing their good work as the two camps rotate

[11:32:18] around picking up two but not three. You see a weak war pop up above Mini's timers glowing.

[11:32:23] That means he's picked up two. If he picks up a third, he will die and it doesn't glow until you have two.

[11:32:27] So it lets you pick up both instead of just soaking one.

[11:32:30] We do have both Jinji and hopeful die, which means we're not going to be able to stop this charge.

[11:32:34] And we have our fourth charge failure wipe in a row as we've had a little bit of a rough start to the morning.

[11:32:41] The melee laughing because they don't have to do anything on this boss.

[11:32:45] Not them ranged players can't even put a tether across your room.

[11:32:49] Shameful.

[11:32:51] But yeah, I do think like, because people are probably wondering why are they wiping to this mechanic they've done this correctly multiple times I still think that they're probably like optimizing something with the movement of the tether groups or tether pairs, or like doing something

[11:33:06] last second to maybe optimize the damage because one thing to note about the tether pairs is that they're damage dealers range damage dealers that are doing this mainly, and as soon as they stop the charge, the boss gets the damage increase.

[11:33:17] So if they have to like soak orbs after subbing the charge, if they have to do something after the charge

[11:33:23] it's not ideal. Like they want to make sure that all of the movement and all of the difficult parts are done before

[11:33:29] and then once the boss is stunned they want to be standing still and turning the boss to get the extra damage in

[11:33:34] so maybe there's something that they're optimizing there.

[11:33:36] Yeah, also interesting that the ranged pairs are dealing with extra orbs, right?

[11:33:42] Everyone spawns an orb when they're hit by the venomous rain, but then the melee camps are done

[11:33:46] Whereas the ranged players spawn one both from the venomous rain and from soaking their web

[11:33:50] So they always have to go to two if a single orb gets missed they will die because of that which is actually what happened here

[11:33:56] There was apparently one orb missed which hopeful and Jinji already had two stacks

[11:34:01] They therefore died to that instant touch of death

[11:34:05] They also take a lot of damage like we also have to note just how much damage it does to your character

[11:34:11] you have two stacks of that debuff from soaking the moats, actually a lot of damage

[11:34:14] plus they're standing in the web for a little while here which also does a

[11:34:18] little bit of taking damage

[11:34:19] so and they're further away which means they're not going to be getting some of

[11:34:23] the heals

[11:34:23] that are happening around the melee area and unfortunately we do see

[11:34:27] another pair go down again

[11:34:31] yep so this is going to be a failed charge and everyone's going to die

[11:34:33] it is worth noting you can't simply blame the range for every single one

[11:34:37] of these errors like

[11:34:38] Like I said before, if a melee group misses an orb, then they will die to touch a death

[11:34:42] out there through no fault of their own.

[11:34:43] That time, however, the opposite color is touched, and that can't happen on this fight.

[11:34:48] We're getting closer and closer to a potential lunch break, but I think that the officers

[11:34:52] would love to have the eventuality where they've gotten deeper into the fight, and

[11:34:55] they can make sure that their strat adjustments are working before that happens.

[11:34:58] So hopefully they continue pulling, get everything under control, and start getting

[11:35:01] some good pulls.

[11:35:02] We are at 11.40 for a lunch break that normally happens around 11.30.

[11:35:06] So at any point that could occur.

[11:35:08] They did have a snack to be fair though, right?

[11:35:10] That's true.

[11:35:11] We do have one snack either between breakfast and lunch, or between lunch and dinner, but

[11:35:18] because they want to stop a little bit earlier today, they did say, hey, could we have the

[11:35:22] snack between breakfast and lunch because we started early and there's a longer break

[11:35:27] between breakfast and lunch.

[11:35:29] So maybe they're not really hungry yet.

[11:35:31] Yeah, could be.

[11:35:32] Maybe they ate all of these, I think it was breadsticks with like a dip.

[11:35:35] It was like pieces of bread, they weren't really breadsticks, they were pieces of bread

[11:35:39] sliced into sticks and they had two different dips, like a corn relish kind of dip and then

[11:35:45] another one made of beetroot.

[11:35:46] Yeah, the beetroot won't look very interesting, I wanted to try it but I had breakfast not

[11:35:54] as early as the writers had and I was thinking okay I'm going to keep my, I'm going to

[11:35:59] wait for lunch because the lunch and the dinners and of course the breakfast are

[11:36:03] are always delicious. And once a Julia is cooking up for us here. Yes. So I want to make sure

[11:36:08] that I'm so hungry for it. I can eat all of that lunch being well taken care of by the

[11:36:12] several private chefs here at the SK Gaming Magenta facility in Cologne. Excellent. You

[11:36:17] take care of all the Raiders and I know that everyone's looking forward to that lunch.

[11:36:20] Okay, so we're back in range watching Genji Puv as they get ready to get the webs.

[11:36:25] Everyone alive thus far. They now need to do their little rotation. So the orbs,

[11:36:29] got the three stacks there was an orb missed in melee there that that was no

[11:36:33] fault of Jinji's right he soaked the two orbs he was supposed to but one orb in

[11:36:38] the melee group did not end up getting soaked which means that he gets to three

[11:36:41] stacks through no fault of his own and dies therefore they cannot stop the

[11:36:45] charge I'm wondering what Scribe is looking like does he have a screen up

[11:36:49] there yes okay Scribe is a multi multi-screen gamer and he has logs up

[11:36:54] up above on the screen above him.

[11:36:57] For a second, I think there's a screen there,

[11:37:00] or that's just thinking.

[11:37:01] Or he's praying, right?

[11:37:02] Look, like, ugh.

[11:37:04] Looking too above for some guidance.

[11:37:06] When he thinks very deeply, maybe he just looks up.

[11:37:09] Or maybe after he sees something disappointing him

[11:37:11] for the fifth time in a row, it's just like the dad

[11:37:13] looking your eyes up.

[11:37:16] He's not rolling his eyes.

[11:37:17] He's not casting his eyes to the heavens.

[11:37:18] He is in fact looking at replays and logs.

[11:37:21] They have an internal review tool they use,

[11:37:23] syncing the logs with the vods that we've been able to use a little bit to show you

[11:37:26] guys what's been going on as well, which has been very nice. They use that to check

[11:37:30] exactly what happened. So probably checking where was the orb that got missed, who should

[11:37:34] probably have soaked it, right? This is the mythic mechanic of the fight, these orb

[11:37:38] spawning from most of the significant events. They spawn three times for the

[11:37:42] men of the arena in phase one. They spawn three times during the first

[11:37:45] intermission as they take three pulses of damage. If they took a fourth

[11:37:48] another, so it's spawned. And then they continue to spawn in phase two

[11:37:51] in the second animation. That's like the fundamental mechanic of the fight that requires a lot

[11:37:54] of coordination because you have to deal with all of the mechanics while also dodging your

[11:38:00] opposite colors and rotating around to soak the opposite colored orbs. And that needs to

[11:38:05] be cleaned up or you're not going to be able to deal with it happening again and again,

[11:38:10] repeatedly throughout the fight. So everyone needs to make sure that they're watching

[11:38:12] for those. Soaking the correct number. The weak ores are well positioned, such

[11:38:16] that you know, okay, I have two, I can't do a third. We've also seen lots

[11:38:19] of pings, the ping system coming in clutch as people will spam ping an orb that doesn't

[11:38:23] get soaked. We had several people yesterday making mistakes because the orbs over their

[11:38:27] head look identical to the orbs on the ground. The main difference, if you're trying to keep

[11:38:32] track and chat, whether the orb that hasn't been soaked is a real orb or a dead body,

[11:38:37] is look for the sword. If it's a real orb, there's a sword of Damocles hanging

[11:38:42] over it, slowly dropping, and when that sword hits the orb, it explodes. So those

[11:38:46] of the indication that it's a real orb that requires soaking instead of someone's orcs?

[11:38:50] I do wish it would change that so that when a player is dead, the animation also disappears

[11:38:56] because it is very distracting once there is a dead body in a foreign orb sitting there.

[11:39:03] But of course the debuff pierces through death, so that's probably why that animation

[11:39:08] is still there.

[11:39:09] There we go, we are about to get that charge.

[11:39:12] Again, you can see the ranged groups are picking up those webs in just a moment.

[11:39:16] There it is. And now they have to soak the orbs and get into position.

[11:39:20] Making sure no other orbs is getting missed.

[11:39:23] That looks good so far.

[11:39:24] So we're going to get a burst window. Everyone popping cooldowns.

[11:39:27] If they have them available, 40 seconds into the fight, which is a very, very weird timing.

[11:39:31] Doing as much damage as possible. Killing off the Beatles.

[11:39:34] The Beatles is another little mechanic on this fight. We've seen them on Heroic on Normal.

[11:39:37] But on Mythic, they have a couple extra mechanics they spawn with an additional 80% damage reduction.

[11:39:42] We do unfortunately lose both Thaner and Narco. I believe that was too betrayal.

[11:39:46] We have a combat res so thinner is going to come back up because you cannot do the inhibition down one healer

[11:39:51] Yeah, the Beatles are another mechanic in this fight that required damage

[11:39:54] They spawn with 80% damage taken reduced

[11:39:56] So you can't kill them very very fast and then they fixate on someone and do damage to that person until killed later on when they

[11:40:02] Don't die as quickly that becomes a severe problem

[11:40:05] Because they escalate their speed and become unseeable and do a lot of damage

[11:40:09] Jinji blinking out to get that sort of democlete orb spawning, he's at...

[11:40:13] Can you use any type of CCs on these scarabs?

[11:40:16] You can use basically any CC until they reach 100 energy and become un-CCable.

[11:40:21] Can you use Cyclone?

[11:40:22] I don't know...

[11:40:24] We do have the second damage increase here on the boss, so another successful int drop by the tech team of those tethers of the webs.

[11:40:33] And there we go, we are nuking the boss with another damage increase, and that means we're going to be in that intermission very soon.

[11:40:41] Yeah, this has been a successful pull thus far. One person dead, that's alright, not a healer, just a narco.

[11:40:46] We've done it without narco before, we can do it again.

[11:40:49] Going into the intermission, you will see the boss cast this Shatter Existence, and they will take pulses of damage every few seconds,

[11:40:56] while those pulses of damage also spawn orbs that must be soaked.

[11:41:00] You see that stack going up to one stack in a moment the next one comes through and you get a second stack each one doing more damage

[11:41:07] Cush and clicks both going down may voker as well

[11:41:10] Not quite worked out exactly how they're gonna rotate around and get all of these soaks or picking up too much orbs as they go

[11:41:17] Another couple of people go down including velo so a healer out means it's gonna be even more difficult

[11:41:21] This is definitely not as smooth as some of their emotions yesterday where we came out with everyone alive

[11:41:26] I have things that need to be worked out here.

[11:41:27] Several orbs about to go off at once

[11:41:30] and everyone that's read is gonna die

[11:41:31] as a result pop, touch of death, dead.

[11:41:33] Also unable to break the shield,

[11:41:35] which means we're taking a fourth

[11:41:36] and even a fifth stack here, which is deadly.

[11:41:39] I just love this POV, like if you don't know

[11:41:42] what the mid-mitting mechanic does here,

[11:41:44] because there's like, we have four ranged to each

[11:41:47] and it looks like, if you wouldn't know

[11:41:49] the mid-mitting mechanic, it really looks like,

[11:41:51] like they don't know how to play the game.

[11:41:52] It's like, yeah, I'm gonna move,

[11:41:53] like a keyboard turning left and right,

[11:41:54] move very slowly, ideally, but disoriented. But it really is because they're moving very

[11:41:59] slowly and predictably to make sure that players from the opposing color are not accidentally

[11:42:05] going to walk into them.

[11:42:07] We do successfully get out of the Emission for the first time today with 5 or 6 people

[11:42:10] alive. That's going to be a quick wipe. But a little bit of progress being made.

[11:42:14] They need to look at the Emission and improve that. I agree. But if you, especially

[11:42:20] with this player POV, it can be hard to really see what's going on. It looks like players

[11:42:23] It's kind of milling around almost aimlessly,

[11:42:27] which is why I really like the Warcraft Logs overview.

[11:42:29] You get this bird's eye view and you can see it turn

[11:42:31] into almost a solar system of orbits occurring.

[11:42:34] And it's very, very pretty.

[11:42:35] That's what I want to show chat.

[11:42:36] As soon as we are assured that I can do that

[11:42:38] for about 30 seconds without missing any of a pole,

[11:42:40] because at any point they might take a little break

[11:42:42] and that's when I'll show you.

[11:42:43] Or at any point they might have a good pole

[11:42:44] that we see fairly far.

[11:42:45] And as they continue to work out the Kings,

[11:42:47] we are of course doing this with a new comp,

[11:42:49] the one tank strategy from yesterday, no longer viable.

[11:42:52] We have brought Robin back in and we are two tanking once again

[11:42:56] and we're sticking to this because we've seen a lot of garden druid being played but

[11:43:02] This time around we're sticking to a blood decay which makes sense because grips of course very valuable on this fight for those scarabs

[11:43:08] Which means that they have to get another play in for Magdor Wild which in this case is Kanax on that moonkin

[11:43:14] And then we have that double frost decay for additional grips for those scarabs as well

[11:43:19] making it a lot more easier to deal with those adds, making sure to just get them

[11:43:23] onto the boss to stand them and then once that the damage decrease is not that high anymore

[11:43:29] they can just passively cleave them down. Yeah absolutely it's really funny we've I think I think

[11:43:34] Canix is definitely the Cinderella story of this entire Wraith World first tier. He spent most

[11:43:40] of Heroic Week being mean tier druids are useless we're not going to use any. Started the tier

[11:43:45] with a Guardian being brought to bring the Mark of the Wild is considered basically the least

[11:43:49] bad druid that you could bring in for that mandatory buff, but then coming into tank as a

[11:43:54] guardian on brew twister for an entire day, then get told, sorry that you used all your valorstones

[11:43:59] on tank here. Turns out we do need you to be a boomkin the next day, benched for the start of

[11:44:04] Kaiveza, then brought back in to provide Mark of the Wild after they go to the solo tank strat,

[11:44:07] and now coming back in for this one. So, Kenix, Cinderella's story, no one saw this coming,

[11:44:11] but he's been performing well here at his first venue, Race to World First, doing a phenomenal

[11:44:16] job remaining in high spirits as he continues to perform getting a little bit

[11:44:20] of an inspection late for me. 22 item level with Bessons of Trinket as well. I mean not too bad.

[11:44:26] Yeah. And his damage is pretty good. This can is moving closer and closer to the middle of his

[11:44:33] can POV. It started off as a very upward looking can. It was on the side and then he moved it

[11:44:41] close and close and close. I wouldn't call it, I think it's now can POV. This isn't, this is

[11:44:54] a mechanics anymore. This is, this is just a can. The X is gone. We could put the, we could put the

[11:44:59] boomkin wings on this can and it would be the canyx POV we've all been dreaming of. Excellent

[11:45:05] memes coming out from Chris. Going into another poll here, it's going to go pretty much the

[11:45:10] same. We're just waiting to see if everyone soaks their orbs, doesn't get up a trail,

[11:45:13] and then the ranged camp can handle their job correctly. So I'd love to go back out to a

[11:45:18] ranged POV to make sure that we handle this burrow correctly. First the venomous rain,

[11:45:23] then the burrow. Now the burrow actually does a lot of damage on its own. If you watch the

[11:45:27] raid frames it hurts very very bad even before the charge which then does lethal

[11:45:31] damage on top of it. So the burrow is going to come out, the ranged players are picking

[11:45:35] up their webs, getting them, soaking each other's orbs, trying not to break those

[11:45:39] change as they drag it across the boss all three present looks successful we're

[11:45:44] gonna stop the boss right on top of those scarabs going into the double damage

[11:45:47] phase can it's popping convoke and tunneling as much damage as you possible

[11:45:52] can interestingly the adside kind of at the same time as the damage amp which

[11:45:55] may help us convoke a little bit actually convoked the pool now oh did he

[11:45:58] said yeah that's been that's a significant change I do think the

[11:46:02] endless are out there working on exactly how to maximize everyone's

[11:46:05] cooldowns whether it's worth the laying for this burn phase or worth the

[11:46:08] for that burn phase. The Skynesminner just spam casting Poison Bolt, unmovable. The tanks cannot

[11:46:14] move her, she teleports wherever she wants and then spams Poison Bolt to the tank, putting that

[11:46:17] stacking poison dot on mirrors, which requires a dispel from either your poison cleansing totems,

[11:46:23] or your invoker, or your paladin, or your druid even, but they're handling that just fine.

[11:46:28] We just saw the double ice block come in from, hopefully, the druid here,

[11:46:31] preventing the Vandem Ruin damage on them, which subsequently also prevents the Miltrum

[11:46:36] from spawning.

[11:46:37] Yeah, it's actually very, very good tech.

[11:46:39] And about a third of the raid amuses that round to make all of that damage reduced right

[11:46:43] before the second burrow, which they have done correctly.

[11:46:46] Everyone alive going into the second burn phase on our beetle and new barrage.

[11:46:51] Boss it around 80% as we'll be going soon into the inhibition.

[11:46:55] The beetle is going to burrow away and become unhittable.

[11:46:57] The Skynespinner will teleport into the middle and then she will be doing her

[11:47:01] intermission here in this moment.

[11:47:04] She teleports around wherever she wants and you can't do anything with her so the goal at all times is to try to manipulate it such

[11:47:10] That the beetle is charging on to her or being able to be pulled on to her for cleave damage

[11:47:14] Which is very valuable. We instantly have canyx and rice and going down looks like a betrayal death there

[11:47:18] Frago going down as well to some kind of damage. I you see we see hopeful has two stacks of the dock

[11:47:24] Can't soak the sword but he goes to three and dies it was about to hit and hit everyone

[11:47:28] So he sacrificed himself there threw himself under the sword so four dead now as we are in this transition

[11:47:34] We are now at two stacks about to get our third and trying to break it at that third stack before getting a fourth

[11:47:41] Shield at 22%

[11:47:44] Yeah, so definitely still some

[11:47:46] Optimization going on here. They can of course continue this progression to manage to get through this shield

[11:47:51] But it's just so much damage coming in that fourth stack is just the increasing a we damage numbers because of the shield

[11:47:58] breaking and in addition we also have all of these orbs that get to soak a lot of double dots

[11:48:03] on players so it's just so much damage mirrors and now now that which means they won't be able to

[11:48:07] continue this try unfortunately not going to be able to see phase two more often but yeah definitely

[11:48:16] went through phase one much cleaner this summer so that's the consistency that we're looking for

[11:48:21] and now some of the optimizations that they have figured out for the intermission still just

[11:48:26] just have to be executed to see further into the fight again.

[11:48:31] Yep, absolutely true. Still a better exit out of phase one.

[11:48:35] Phase one done perfectly that time.

[11:48:36] That was good to see.

[11:48:37] Now we just need to keep working through the remainder of the fight.

[11:48:40] I think a good goal is to get to that first AUE grip in phase two,

[11:48:45] to make sure that your strategy there is really good.

[11:48:48] When we go into phase two and the Skynet Spinner comes out empowered,

[11:48:50] she has two major mechanics, first shield grip,

[11:48:52] everyone of one color toward her,

[11:48:54] and they'll drop orbs as they fly,

[11:48:56] and then she'll one second later grip every one

[11:48:58] of the other color to her,

[11:48:59] and you want to both pre-position in such a way

[11:49:02] that you're not gonna intersect

[11:49:03] and run away in such a way that you're not gonna intersect

[11:49:06] and also have those orb spawning in such a position

[11:49:09] that they're relatively easy to immediately soak.

[11:49:11] So that is a big challenge.

[11:49:12] They did execute a couple of times yesterday

[11:49:14] and then that takes you

[11:49:15] to the second main mechanic of phase two,

[11:49:18] which is the beetle will put dots on five people

[11:49:20] and they needed to be dispelled onto the spider

[11:49:23] within a 10 second window.

[11:49:24] But we do see that lunch break timer go up

[11:49:26] I do want to show off the orbital mechanics of the fight if you will indulge me before we go get our own lunch

[11:49:30] I am pulling up the workraft logs tool and I'm gonna press play

[11:49:36] Yeah, it's actually so cool from a bird's-eye view. I really love it get your coggers ready in the chat because we're gonna start rotating

[11:49:42] I'm gonna show you three different times. So in phase one first event in the venomous rain happens spawning an orb everywhere

[11:49:48] And then these players just spinning and spiraling around the boss

[11:49:52] That's round one. Another one occurs at approximately 50 seconds into the fight.

[11:49:58] Then it's rain coming down and then we go swirling around and then again at 1.24

[11:50:07] or so we're off to the side around the spider boss. Get ready to spin. They

[11:50:13] stack up in preparation. Rotatings, very nice. And then yeah a little bit

[11:50:18] a little bit awkward there. I do also want to show the intermission because they had a couple

[11:50:24] of emissions yesterday where it went fairly well. So here we are going to the emissions spider

[11:50:28] teleports to the middle you have a melee group on each side and then you have four pairs of range

[11:50:34] groups kind of in the spokes around the edge. You're going to see people rotating around trying

[11:50:39] to dodge the cones while soaking each other's orbs and it looks like this miniature solar

[11:50:45] system with different systems rotating around one another?

[11:50:48] Yeah, we can now tell the difference between what they're trying to do now in their mission

[11:50:53] versus what they did yesterday.

[11:50:55] They now instead of trying to make four pairs of two with the range, they tried to make

[11:50:59] two pairs of four, which I'm not sure why, they're changing maybe for healing purposes,

[11:51:05] maybe for other reasons, to not be too spread out, maybe it's also just uptime things.

[11:51:09] But yeah, that has been causing some issues, because obviously there's two players

[11:51:14] you have to avoid now in your range camp compared to just having to focus on one

[11:51:18] other player and then just getting used to that and some of the changes in phase

[11:51:22] one as well of course. Absolutely. That illustrating kind of the orbit says

[11:51:26] they go the other thing happening in that phase is just an overwhelming amount

[11:51:28] of rate damage right you have the non-pulses from the boss as she

[11:51:31] continues to ramp that damage up until you break the shield and because the

[11:51:36] orbs are spawning so much more frequently than they did in phase one

[11:51:38] you have much higher dot damage every time you soak an orb you get a

[11:51:41] stacking dot and it does a lot of damage to the healers trying to blast as much as possible.

[11:51:45] Min-maxing the extent to which everyone is in range is going to be a big part of the strategy.

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[12:22:43] and the guys are sets to murder some spiders. Oh yeah. This is going to be a good day

[12:22:48] They have done all of their chores this morning, apparently there's nothing more to do

[12:22:51] But so they say it's solely lies

[12:22:53] But hopefully we can use these next few hours to get some amazing pulls in on the silken core

[12:22:59] Which liquid nice to take down in the early hours here. I think it was late in there. It was such a good kill

[12:23:05] It was a beautiful kill. They're very good. I really I shouldn't say this

[12:23:08] But I was really hoping they kill it because they deserved it they were pushing and pushing and pushing

[12:23:13] I was watching them and then they got a little frustrated

[12:23:15] And then they got into the groove again, and they were like laser focused so GGs to the guys were getting it down

[12:23:21] That would have been a rough night sleep. Oh, it certainly would have been it really would have been

[12:23:24] But you've got us for the next three or four hours or so as we're going to be going through Echo's prog

[12:23:28] They've been spending a lot of time doing a lot of talking

[12:23:31] Completely unlike echo. I'm sure you'll agree. Yeah, no been time going on over here

[12:23:37] Despite all about micro changes that we got to be sort of impossible for us to relate to you

[12:23:43] how many of them are happening, is that it's all about like being slightly here, slightly

[12:23:49] there, little bit here, lots and lots. If this is a very, we call it synchronized swimming

[12:23:54] yesterday. It really does feel like that. It's all about like baiting in the exact

[12:23:59] right position because they're going to have to do this later. And when it all works

[12:24:02] well, it looks so pretty.

[12:24:04] Right, it really does. It's one of those beautiful looking fights. Similar to a little

[12:24:08] bit how Clivezza was also a fight that once it went correctly it looked really really nice.

[12:24:13] Obviously the intermissions were absolute chaos but like the main phase where you're like having

[12:24:18] the agile Jar Jaran in very geometric sort of patterns it's also similar here. Gives me massive

[12:24:22] hell of your vibes. Gives me almost star wars vibes. This is like this is hell of your 2.0

[12:24:27] maybe. Yeah in terms of just this very very precise stance with all of these different

[12:24:31] overlaps but it turned out that this fight generally just seems to be there's like

[12:24:35] 10 or so overlaps that you need to just know how you're doing in each of those different dances.

[12:24:39] And once you know that movement system, doesn't seem to be necessarily too difficult.

[12:24:43] They just got to repeat it, keep the obviously how many pulls are there now?

[12:24:46] 105. So they've still got a long way to go in terms of, you know, getting anywhere near

[12:24:52] the like pinnacle of how much they can optimize this fight and how much more

[12:24:56] comfy they can get only spending a few of those 105 pulls in the last phase.

[12:25:00] So looking for some big jumps in prog today, I think that they can do it,

[12:25:03] especially after seeing Liquid Killip. I mean this fight is going back to why we

[12:25:07] said Call it Hell Yeah for those of you who weren't there for that is Hell Yeah was

[12:25:09] entirely on rails. You could predict every moment, every movement and it was

[12:25:13] very much like go to A, go to B, go to C, go to D, go to A, go to B, and it just

[12:25:18] is cycled around in a very specific pattern of play. This is very, very

[12:25:23] similar and it's about getting everybody on the same page, getting them all

[12:25:26] into the complete synchronization so they're all looking out for each other,

[12:25:31] They're all making sure they know and repetition is important here. So you know

[12:25:36] When you go left sometimes there's somebody you might be a bit slower

[12:25:39] They might be lingering there

[12:25:40] So I actually want to go left and back and that needs to happen every single pole

[12:25:44] Oh, yeah over and over again

[12:25:45] And then you learn the intricacies of what the rest of your raid team are doing because everybody has different abilities

[12:25:50] I know everybody's gonna be nice memes and just like oh, yeah

[12:25:52] I need to cover three quarters of the room

[12:25:54] 2 seconds flat and then you've got some like priest or whatever, he's like

[12:25:58] Try to get across the room that's not going to happen here, but we should see some leaps in progress

[12:26:02] They are aware of everything that needs to happen here and more importantly

[12:26:06] Two things that have been happening this morning after liquid got a kill the feedback I had while I was streaming was

[12:26:11] Are we surprised that it's dead so soon?

[12:26:14] I'm like no like we're talking this raid has been so difficult that a hundred not pull boss is easy

[12:26:20] Right, that's what we're considering easy right now. Let's let's bury mine. That's mostly case of end bosses

[12:26:25] But more importantly the guys have been raiding a super high technical level for the last two bosses

[12:26:31] Oh, yeah, they're already on to the feet in that mindset already

[12:26:34] Sometimes you know the raids are so easy in the pre bosses before you get to the penultimate or the finale

[12:26:40] That it you don't have to sort of engage

[12:26:43] Real raid mode for sure these guys did that a brute twist there

[12:26:47] So like it's got to be surprising to see blizzards come up with something for answer

[12:26:51] I that's gonna make them go but wait, there's more

[12:26:55] You thought you had it all sorted before no watch this that's gonna get wacky, but more importantly they had a different vibe

[12:27:01] I was here this morning. I let the guys into the building in fact

[12:27:05] Obviously running in the janitor sort of thing

[12:27:09] So make sure the pins are fresh I give it a laugh fresh on scribe seat classic

[12:27:14] That's nice.

[12:27:15] I did all those things and they were in a very jovial mood, you know, they were like,

[12:27:18] yeah, we can do whatever we can kill it today or not.

[12:27:21] It doesn't really matter.

[12:27:22] We're on target with Liquid still.

[12:27:23] It's not a big deal.

[12:27:24] The last boss is what it's all about, blah, blah, blah.

[12:27:26] And then of course Liquid killed it and then it changed because there was two modes

[12:27:29] of thought, right?

[12:27:30] It's one, Liquid don't kill it and go to bed and we don't kill it.

[12:27:33] We're on par.

[12:27:34] Yep.

[12:27:35] Liquid don't kill it and go to bed.

[12:27:37] We do kill it.

[12:27:39] We then not only get that loot, but we get to see a bit of Ancerek, although

[12:27:42] We're very unlikely to have the time to see answer at phase three where we know there's gonna be some shenanigans

[12:27:47] And then the alternative is that we get really far into answer

[12:27:50] I can we know the comp we want for answer which would be amazing for next week

[12:27:54] That's such huge information that liquid wouldn't have so they were in a very jovial spirit and then liquid killer

[12:27:59] They chase up. Oh, we kind of need to actually kill this

[12:28:02] Actually needs to die and of course they're now in a position as well where they do not want to

[12:28:07] Go late though because their reset tomorrow is like five in the morning

[12:28:10] I will be with you at 5 a.m. guys.

[12:28:12] Yeah, so it's gonna be a very early start for them tomorrow

[12:28:15] and they do not want to be skimping out on that sleep.

[12:28:18] So it's important that they can get this down

[12:28:20] and not be going into the early hours as a whole back there.

[12:28:23] Thank you.

[12:28:25] One ob-ho-ho.

[12:28:27] Yeah, so it's something that they really need to be careful about

[12:28:30] in terms of going too late tonight

[12:28:32] because if they wake up tired tomorrow,

[12:28:34] not only do they need to do any sort of remaining heroic splits

[12:28:37] which I honestly don't think there's gonna be that many left to do.

[12:28:39] I'm left to do I can't imagine so that in terms of reclearing on mipic although of course

[12:28:44] Yes, Brutus or is getting nerfed in terms of the ad health and stuff fair enough

[12:28:47] That's gonna make it a little easier and the gear that you're gonna get is gonna make hi Vesra a little bit easier

[12:28:52] You might even be able to just go straight back to tanking it just to make it like more chill

[12:28:55] All of that isn't getting nerfed you just get more gear making a little bit more simple

[12:28:58] I

[12:29:00] Understand why it's not

[12:29:02] I think here's gonna cover it that much. I think that gear is gonna cover it that much. Yes, I think

[12:29:07] that the

[12:29:09] Only like one thing Jesse pointed out in terms of a way of nerfing it is maybe reducing the damage it deals

[12:29:15] Yeah, actually reducing health or anything just reducing the damage deals a little bit

[12:29:18] But once again gear also helps cover that you can shoot that a little bit more space

[12:29:22] But as you can see they're in the intermission here boss at 76% not too bad. It's certainly seen worse fast boys

[12:29:28] Though they have to wait a really weird time there to get that soak. Yeah, it's a very delayed

[12:29:34] You want to soak them as fast as possible so it's dealt with right here, but this is not tindral seeds

[12:29:38] You know, you're not under that kind of time limit, but it does need to be done very very quickly

[12:29:44] Because you have to sit there and stare at them and they're like

[12:29:49] You see the small sword at the moment on the right side of the screen slowly making its way down and when it plunges into the orb

[12:29:55] Stuart!

[12:29:55] That's a really cute way of showing the time remaining on the orbs

[12:29:58] Because before and in the past if orbs spawn you just assume that they're gonna explode after a while you normally don't even get an indication

[12:30:05] So it reminds me of some other game I can't place it

[12:30:07] No, no, this is just to have these visual clues on the

[12:30:13] What a concept dude, we don't want to start invoking the the wrath of the welcoming

[12:30:22] Wonderful influence going on throughout the raid, which is great to see the Wild Earths expanding the horizons a little bit

[12:30:28] And oh 50 50 on saved it. Good lad 50 50 on Alex knocking his drink over there

[12:30:33] Never to make it happen, but we are expecting some kind of leaps and bounds in progress here method

[12:30:37] Obviously, I'm a very good pull. Oh, yeah at the hundred two mark

[12:30:40] But everything is here that what they don't know

[12:30:42] It's almost impossible to tell even while watching streams of other people playing and doing the fight and all that

[12:30:47] It's the intricacies the tiny little changes that Roger will be keeping his peepers open for

[12:30:53] That's what you're looking for to solve the general thing

[12:30:57] 90% of it. Yeah, easy to pick up. We can see what goes on

[12:31:00] But there's the little bits that you've got people doing that echo will need to solve and hopefully solve really quickly

[12:31:07] but

[12:31:08] They should be able to do this. We're predicting four hours. Just wait telling me three. I'm hoping yeah

[12:31:13] I'm just hoping it dies today, honestly

[12:31:15] Me too they have sufficient time after the raid where if anyone has anything left to do say they want to do that

[12:31:21] Mythic split raid, which I think is a very wise decision if they've got it. I I thought they'd do it

[12:31:26] I don't know if they've done it. Maybe production could tell us if they've done it

[12:31:29] What on Heroic or Mythic? Oh, okay, so they've done a little bit of Mythic at the beginning, but they haven't done all of the bosses on Mythic.

[12:31:39] As an example, there would be ways of extending that if they wanted to get any more gear from further bosses.

[12:31:44] But whether or not they're going to do it, who knows? I'm sure they've been scared away.

[12:31:49] It'll find us the first four bosses aren't necessarily the biggest loot contributors in terms of really, really strong trinkets or things like that.

[12:31:58] that and even still we're not even after trinkets really anymore now we're after

[12:32:02] increase item level on trinkets awesome but the actual base items such as you

[12:32:05] know the spy masters and stuff like that it's actually kind of cool so this

[12:32:08] boss dying isn't actually gonna matter in terms of the loot it drops too much in

[12:32:12] my opinion I don't think that's the main reason that we're like super

[12:32:15] invested in killing this boss today it is so that we can go into Answrek make

[12:32:19] sure that we can see the changes that are different and give all that

[12:32:23] information to the analysts so that whilst our raiders go to sleep our

[12:32:26] analysts get to work and start making ideas, start making rate plans, start making weaker

[12:32:31] hours and getting timers, correct. Just getting those like 10 to 20 pools in the dark, just

[12:32:36] getting all that information then.

[12:32:37] Yeah, they're full not showing it.

[12:32:38] Oh no, full show.

[12:32:39] Well, of course, because yeah, liquid did the exact same thing, rightfully so as

[12:32:44] well. I only had like a couple hours left. You know where you want to give that

[12:32:47] information to Echo or Method or anyone else.

[12:32:49] No, but Alex is totally right. He gives you that time, even when the raiders

[12:32:52] go to bed is not wouldn't be too surprising to see some of the benched characters or whatever

[12:32:57] come in just mess with some positioning things in phase.

[12:33:00] Oh yeah.

[12:33:01] You've got the arena, you've got the playfield, you can do some goofy stuff with characters

[12:33:05] that aren't the main raiders who need rest and just to check things out, again timers

[12:33:08] and all that and having that ready for tomorrow because they'll want, the next step

[12:33:12] of course will be a crisp re-clear, I could not not great at that, typically speaking

[12:33:18] their re-clear.

[12:33:19] I think they've improved a little bit.

[12:33:21] I forgot Nimwee, interesting.

[12:33:23] I forgot how to pronounce that boss, because I think you'll find Mike, it's Naimoo.

[12:33:31] God that fight.

[12:33:34] In all fairness they did troll hard on that particular.

[12:33:39] I guess every now and then they do troll.

[12:33:41] I was mainly thinking back to when it was really bad in Castle Nathria.

[12:33:45] They had a really rough re-clear in Nathria.

[12:33:48] as many because of the pressure of you know liquid working on the last boss both groups the working on

[12:33:52] the last boss very deep into it you had to like rush back to titan ethereus as soon as possible

[12:33:56] knowing you had to get through uh stone legion generals as well that must have put a lot of pressure

[12:34:00] on yeah um an amazing fight really glad you say its name stone legion generals best fight known

[12:34:06] to man pick up the orb whoo the last full mythic prog I ever did yeah thanks oh you're welcome

[12:34:12] No, trust me, you're welcome.

[12:34:16] That is something to point out in the history of most guys.

[12:34:18] This was the last time she really truly progressed.

[12:34:20] Stone Age Generals.

[12:34:22] I'm surprised we made it any further.

[12:34:23] Oh, that's cute hand-hold ice block.

[12:34:25] It is very cute.

[12:34:26] That is cute, cute-able to eat.

[12:34:28] They, of course, send their immune system there

[12:34:30] because it not only prevents the double poison stack

[12:34:32] from that rain that falls down here

[12:34:34] but also stops the orb being generated.

[12:34:36] So it's just less orbs to soak

[12:34:38] and you double whammy it by having less poison damage.

[12:34:40] Well, everything looks pretty good.

[12:34:41] I can't see the third web.

[12:34:42] I'm assuming it's there. They generally placed in that third web much further down towards the edge of the room now rather than like

[12:34:48] Yeah, you wanted in the wall. I think it's because one of the ranged pairs now are indeed double fire

[12:34:53] Well, it does two things one it helps them out and also the melee stay still to finish off the scarabs and the boss lands right in front of them

[12:34:59] So they stay still they they monster the scarabs the boss arrives and ready to go

[12:35:03] There's no downtime whatsoever

[12:35:05] It's not like the melee can get across the room and get back and maintain like any reasonable amount of

[12:35:09] Ooh, my word, Caddox, full monk is steering his way through the backs there, that was terrifying.

[12:35:16] That's kind of clean and submission, I kill.

[12:35:17] Yeah, so the boss, sub 75%, we're happy with that, that's a nice percentage for the boss to be at.

[12:35:22] You're going to see the groups rotating around, throughout this phase you're going to be spawning more orbs that the other team needs to soak.

[12:35:28] So the melee are kind of looking after the melee, the range they're looking after one another impairs, but it does mean that you're running around pretty fast.

[12:35:34] You're going to be obviously dodging these cones that are coming out of the bus in a sort of

[12:35:38] Final fantasy style on his is it some sort of like a go go fast fast fast one second one second

[12:35:44] Hey guys, that nice memes that was somebody's darting across the room

[12:35:48] Because you got to be careful that you don't over soak because if you do get to three sex

[12:35:52] Obviously, you will die you got to wait for your dog to drop it looks like they've managed to do it pretty well

[12:35:56] Yeah, the bosses come out two players alive dots are going to be running out soon

[12:35:59] And that's a really nice health percentage for the bosses to be at so the main thing

[12:36:03] We're going to be seeing in this phase now is the fact that we're going to be getting gripped in towards the boss

[12:36:07] She'll grip in one team first and then the other team afterwards one thing that liquid was doing really really well

[12:36:12] Is that the first team kind of separates out to the left and right breaking their webs immediately and the second?

[12:36:17] So you can see them going left and right this team are going to go straight through all different

[12:36:22] They are trying to break their webs at the same time as soaking the object

[12:36:25] I think is a little bit optimistic especially when we got double Malay here many just going to eat the down time

[12:36:30] Whoever he's tethered with, come on pull backwards man!

[12:36:34] I'm trying to DPS to DTF breath up because if you have breath up he is about to slam his desk

[12:36:39] Yeah, that's full fuming, but you can see how the grip worked. Hopefully we got the last to spell for the mob in the middle

[12:36:45] We do. Unfortunately losing three players. I think we do have no we don't have any battle res is available

[12:36:50] Unfortunately, but that shouldn't stop us. There isn't really a damage check until we get to the next intermission

[12:36:55] For them to do obviously more practice with their positioning and whatnot

[12:36:58] The bosses still are relatively low health pool here, but the next grip coming in so if the blue team gets gripped in first

[12:37:04] You're going to see them

[12:37:06] Largely, oh she's going to teleport to the edge first. I find out exactly how they're going to do this

[12:37:10] So red teams getting gripped in they're going to go to the left or the right. The blue team is in the wrong place entirely

[12:37:14] Yeah, they guess they could go back on themselves, but they're trying to get the opposite thing running out

[12:37:18] It's really interesting. Okay, so I'm pretty sure that one of the teams need to be pre-positioned at the ball that the boss

[12:37:24] Teleports to that's how liquid was doing it. They thought they were doing a different approach for it

[12:37:28] Well, different is one way of describing it.

[12:37:31] I think this is a Roger Cook.

[12:37:34] It might be raw.

[12:37:35] It is fucking raw!

[12:37:38] Roger!

[12:37:40] I'm glad that Ramsay is not with us to see that particular cook.

[12:37:45] It was a little rough.

[12:37:46] Roger's kitchen.

[12:37:48] But, yeah, a good new pool, getting back into phase two.

[12:37:53] Obviously not the very, very best pool I've ever had, but it's good to get back into

[12:37:57] the flow of things.

[12:37:58] to be here for another couple hours as they fix everything. This is one of the bosses that

[12:38:01] it just suddenly clicks and the boss dies. We need to rework on each of our overlaps.

[12:38:06] You can see that the system was in place and largely one clever aspect of the strategy

[12:38:11] that I think is really good is that the phase two strategy is very similar to the phase two

[12:38:14] strategy. You don't want to just say oh it's slightly more optimal in phase two to maybe

[12:38:18] do it this way. If it's only going to gain you like a very very small modicum of DPS or

[12:38:22] ease in strategy it's better just to do a slightly harder thing that you're going to be doing

[12:38:25] all the time rather than varying it all the time until you start to get those

[12:38:28] really mid max bits which you probably don't need to do. So we will find out

[12:38:32] normality to chaos is the way this goes. Chaos to normality I should say. It's

[12:38:37] turned this madness into a nice simple repeatable process for Echo here but

[12:38:42] they are looking to get this kill as soon as possible the more time they

[12:38:44] have an answer I could get the better. I'm not sure anybody

[12:38:48] even with the remaining time left would get to phase three to see the

[12:38:51] real weirdness. I don't think you'll see phase two. I don't think you'll

[12:38:54] see the intermission even if you had like an hour or so.

[12:38:56] Yeah.

[12:38:57] Although, I don't know, it does feel like this instance is

[12:39:00] starting to go the way of, you know, something similar to not

[12:39:05] it's not as bad as but similar to Emerald Nightmare in terms

[12:39:08] of the curve in terms of the difficult parts were more

[12:39:10] towards the middle, thinking of things like Ilgenoff thinking

[12:39:13] of things are like scenarios.

[12:39:15] Like it's like it's like it could go on a site downward trend

[12:39:18] who knows.

[12:39:20] Obviously, liquids pools being four of them getting to 83.5

[12:39:24] percent means very little we have no idea what that was or nothing but uh I don't

[12:39:29] know that there's a small vibe I'm surprised though because this boss you

[12:39:33] know a lot of people are talking about as being potentially the most difficult

[12:39:37] boss I've ever released in the game I think it's safe to say that's not so

[12:39:39] they're turned it down from the PTR for sure yeah so it's I think it's

[12:39:44] probably for the best considering how difficult the previous bosses were but

[12:39:48] I wonder if maybe they've gone too far I guess we'll find out you think

[12:39:51] is too easy. Yes. In comparison to what previously came offer a penultimate boss.

[12:39:58] Um, are you comparing it to Tindral or are you comparing it to Brute Twister and Nexus Princess?

[12:40:03] I feel, um, I'm comparing it to penultimate bosses. Um, and also, like, well, you can see in both

[12:40:09] ways. I think the difficulty of the raid in terms of the pool count and the mechanical complexity

[12:40:13] of the bosses should go up over time, right? Yeah, nice linear sort of rise. Yeah. So that,

[12:40:17] that, that generally does happen. It does look like this boss. The thing is, it's hard to

[12:40:20] to say if this boss is easy, because you can't just look at the pool count. Liquid killed

[12:40:24] it in 170 odd pools, but they're also like, disgustingly good players here. Like the movement

[12:40:30] tech that they needed to pull off for an average group that gets here might be insurmountable.

[12:40:36] It might be like a similar sort of thing where the tindral seeds were really really

[12:40:39] difficult for liquid and like almost impossible for a normal guild, you know, that exact

[12:40:43] same sort of arc could be true. But it feels like once this fight is solved and

[12:40:48] you can keep things calm. I don't know. I'd be interested to see how difficult it is in

[12:40:53] a month's time, even if they don't know of it. That's a good way of looking at it. So

[12:40:56] let's put a note in our diaries to see if this is going to be... If I was to say which

[12:41:00] boss is probably going to get nerfed the most so far, it does still look like Nexus

[12:41:04] Princess to me, because without some changes to how brutal it is. Even the execution

[12:41:10] changing from 10 to say 5% would be an overwhelming nerf to that fight, right?

[12:41:15] That would be instantly so, so much better.

[12:41:18] You could leave a lot of things the same as long as you didn't get executed.

[12:41:20] Because we saw most players not getting like, full killed, but it was enough to take them

[12:41:24] below 10%.

[12:41:25] Yeah.

[12:41:26] And that's what then killed you, right?

[12:41:27] Because it's got an execute mechanic going on top of it.

[12:41:29] So something like that could be a huge change that might make that fight like pretty

[12:41:32] accessible actually.

[12:41:33] With gear to beat the DPS check, two tanking it, having combat res is available.

[12:41:38] All those changes, sure.

[12:41:40] That might be enough to change that fight enough for most people.

[12:41:43] This one, of course, but it's much more movement complexity, which is what you're referring to, is it requires a lot of learning of like, okay, phase one, we go here, here, here, here, you six have to do this.

[12:41:52] The whole raid has to rotate and spin in this wonderful clockwork fashion. The Coggers, which is what Chancellor Fertile is, Coggers.

[12:41:58] It's a great, great word for it.

[12:41:59] I didn't even think of Coggers at the time, and then it's like spinning the screws, like, of course it's Coggers, absolutely cool.

[12:42:05] We have to do our Coggers.

[12:42:07] That's something that's not nerfed by ability nerfing.

[12:42:09] No, the fight is so difficult because you have to make a strategy so fragile in order

[12:42:14] to get the most amount of damage out, right?

[12:42:16] But when you can start playing safe and not be greedy and bringing in much better comps

[12:42:19] for earlier bosses that have these hard damage checks, then they certainly...

[12:42:22] Yeah, the mechanical complexity of...

[12:42:25] What's it called?

[12:42:26] Cavesa?

[12:42:27] It's not that high?

[12:42:28] No, that was never a fight that was super mechanically complex.

[12:42:32] Just purely the DPS check was insane.

[12:42:34] And I would also argue, and I don't know what your thoughts on this are, is once

[12:42:38] DPS check isn't as bad. You don't need to make it that hard like they made it both liquid and echo

[12:42:43] Made Kai there's a

[12:42:45] Infinitely harder to maintain uptime. Oh, yeah, that was their main goal is like we need to maintain crazy uptime on the boss to meet

[12:42:52] The DPS check so we have to make the fight harder ourselves. Sure. It would be nice to just like spread the portals out

[12:42:57] Do a couple of charges just forget about the rest and people can run out

[12:43:01] You know having your melee out for like seven or eight seconds

[12:43:04] Ain't that big deal when the DPS check isn't as high for sure

[12:43:08] But when you have a case of like yeah, we need to find exactly 20 million raid DPS or whatever it was

[12:43:15] Having you're having your warrior out for several seconds is a big deal

[12:43:18] That's a lot of DPS has lost and that's one thing I think about this fight as I say

[12:43:22] I'm not taking away from the fact that this this fight is difficult mechanically and it did have a tight DPS check in terms of you

[12:43:28] Know liquid killed it when it was in the enrage, but we're not bringing a disgusting comfort

[12:43:33] There isn't some weird class stacking going on with this fight.

[12:43:36] There is a lot of upward movement left to go in terms of gearing for classes as well.

[12:43:41] You know, we've been in tears before where they and Sepulchre was one of them where the next reset didn't matter.

[12:43:48] We're as strong as we're getting, we're like biz, dude.

[12:43:50] Like, well, like, well, double legged is being like mandatory.

[12:43:56] So this, like in terms of this fight for the average guild, it feels more normal than the previous

[12:44:02] two bosses because it's going to get annihilated. This fight is going to get completely stomped

[12:44:06] on damage-wise. The fact that Liquid managed to get it down without like a really, really

[12:44:11] perfect pull. I'm sure they did a lot of min-max, but after 170 pulls you don't think

[12:44:15] that those guys can't find another 10% damage if they really needed to, you know?

[12:44:19] So, Manus says, hi. Exactly. You know, it's completely possible for Guilds to be

[12:44:23] able to do that. So, I wonder if this boss is actually going to go down in the

[12:44:27] books as the scariest boss or probably more likely the most over you know the most feared

[12:44:33] yet to probably least scary. That's really interesting. Commonly thought processes what

[12:44:38] will what boss will this raid be remembered for and obviously we've not seen answer at

[12:44:42] Kiat's. A lot of people thought it was going to be this one. I kind of think at this point

[12:44:46] it's Kai Bezza. Yeah, it's a great fight. Don't get me wrong. I really like this

[12:44:50] fight. I would be really excited to go ahead and do this fight as well. Like as a

[12:44:53] part of this fight. Yeah, this would be right on my street. I'm not saying that

[12:44:56] they should do anything different but like it just think it's interesting that

[12:44:59] for sure what was most feared has now become like yeah it's cool fight but

[12:45:04] don't need to worry about too much. If somebody likes to do that bit extra you

[12:45:08] know take the extra burden of someone else especially Lazio players like oh I

[12:45:11] can get two orbs you know I mean you would know I'd be like oh I can do this

[12:45:15] at the back I can do that you know volunteering let me do the all let me

[12:45:18] do the webs let me do this do all that kind of stuff and just there's a

[12:45:22] lot of opportunity here for people who like doing that extra little bits you

[12:45:25] like shine and do things it be a Roger Brown mechanic typically if he was in he'd be like oh I'm all over this like there's no question

[12:45:31] Oh, yeah, I'm doing this job. It's 100% the way I like to play and there's a few fights like that

[12:45:36] It's like when we think back see for Sepulchre. Yeah, we always go back to it people talk about Holanderous, but for me

[12:45:41] That's not the boss. I remember that I remember Rhygalon. Oh right for me

[12:45:46] Yeah, I like for me

[12:45:47] It's like what was the what was the most memorable fight for you in Sepulchre's race to will first and

[12:45:51] It's Rhygallon. That Rhygallon fight was amazing. It was so good. It had everything you wanted from the Raiders to do.

[12:45:58] It was very clear what they were doing, had some reasonably interesting mechanics going on.

[12:46:02] Same as Castle Nathria, Sludgefist.

[12:46:05] Sludgefist was the best boss in there by far. Miles! It was so good. It was fun. It was engaging.

[12:46:11] It got really intense at the end. It had a steady ramp up. There was regular damage amps, which is great as you can see here.

[12:46:16] You could sit with your melee players.

[12:46:18] That's great. The Palladins can try and kill each other all the time, depending on your guild.

[12:46:24] A lot of things, Aberus existed.

[12:46:28] I couldn't tell you.

[12:46:31] Sarkareth?

[12:46:33] Echo of Neltharion.

[12:46:35] Oh, what's that there?

[12:46:37] It's Aberus.

[12:46:38] Is that Aberus?

[12:46:39] Second tier of...

[12:46:40] There was Neltharion, didn't there?

[12:46:41] Dragonflight, right?

[12:46:42] Second tier.

[12:46:43] There was no Neltharion. I forgot it was an Aberus.

[12:46:45] The...

[12:46:46] Was there Skarn in there?

[12:46:47] Saskarn was in there. I remember yes Saskarn was a good fight actually.

[12:46:51] It certainly got cheesed in the world first.

[12:46:53] Yes both guilds.

[12:46:54] I remember the kill. Was it Thanahu?

[12:46:56] Thanahu was the one who just shot it.

[12:46:59] Like there was like frames away from dying properly.

[12:47:03] Oh it had the assault boss in there. That was really good.

[12:47:06] It could have something to assault.

[12:47:09] Zakali assault. That was really good.

[12:47:12] Like all of the assault bosses.

[12:47:14] What did that do?

[12:47:15] Nothing mate.

[12:47:16] don't remember names what was I was I was talking about it was it was the wave

[12:47:19] base fight and it was well it's a wave base fight well that existed

[12:47:23] something did I've been told you're asking about jump but yes you can get

[12:47:30] this is echo much spot oh baby I've got the one just a standard from raid

[12:47:36] vaulting carnets I've got the vaulting carnets shirt on but I've got the echo

[12:47:39] hoodie on and it's incredibly comfortable this is abris actually see how

[12:47:43] little I remember. I owned this. Abrus? I thought that was bolt. It hasn't got any words on it.

[12:47:50] It's just a cool design as well. I like it. Well, I've got the spiders on there. You can get

[12:47:55] your merch. The merch is beautiful. Also, if some of the merch has sold out, but we are taking

[12:48:01] pre-orders for those sizes, so feel free to get those pre-orders in. We will be dealing with

[12:48:06] those pre-orders ASAP. So do get them in whilst it's good, because once those pre-orders

[12:48:11] have gone out that's going to be it it's only while stocks last so to speak so do get in and get

[12:48:16] some wonderful wonderful merch as they are going into pool number 110 um i know 110 already honestly

[12:48:23] i think it's just because of how uh how spam you can kind of do it actually it's a surprisingly

[12:48:28] spammy fight but they are going back to those echo sort of ways taking a nice amount of time

[12:48:32] between the pools to make sure that everything is just so so they can do everything exactly

[12:48:37] how they want to do it. There's definitely some confusion in that phase two where breakers to

[12:48:41] how that was happening. We saw me last night for a long time. The melee were getting killed. It's

[12:48:45] like, guys, this is how we do it. You do this every single time. And it should work out nicely as

[12:48:50] they clobber the big chungus into the wall on top of the scarabs in order to see this is just

[12:48:56] straight up time for the guys. Canex, of course, the scarab murderer. He hates scarabs,

[12:49:01] and he's going to bring them down every single time. Innovate thrown onto Zazi there.

[12:49:05] Oh, they run into each other, I think.

[12:49:06] Womp, womp.

[12:49:07] That's going to be a...

[12:49:08] I would probably just pin the pull personally.

[12:49:10] We're quite early in, it's only a minute in.

[12:49:12] So, I think people should start hugging.

[12:49:16] You know, it's no more blue team, no more red team.

[12:49:18] Let's make a purple...

[12:49:19] Oh, they've come back, Ress. They're going.

[12:49:21] They're still going.

[12:49:21] Yeah, they're still going, Ress.

[12:49:22] They're going to keep going.

[12:49:23] I guess in theory, there is no...

[12:49:24] What a purchase positioning.

[12:49:25] There is no damage check in theory until the very, very end.

[12:49:28] You know, we have to make it through the intermission

[12:49:30] and you don't want to be in the intermission for too long

[12:49:32] because you will get extra stacks having to do extra orbs,

[12:49:34] Which your healers will not be ready for in terms of the cooldowns available because you definitely need to start using some pretty good

[12:49:40] CD so what's the end of that? But I think this is probably all

[12:49:44] Yeah, this is this is dead interesting. We've swapped teams now. Hopefully no longer paired with

[12:49:49] Zero as he was earlier on now. He's rocking around with Ryzen keeping those same people in there with some comp changes to change your partner action

[12:49:58] Let's get things done. But this is not unusual this fight can go wrong on a dime. Oh, it really can

[12:50:03] Yeah on an absolute dime. I wonder if this is what is causing them a little bit of grief actually because it was incredibly strong in phase one yesterday

[12:50:10] So they've definitely made some changes in here

[12:50:13] Whether it just be the partners as well. You've got to learn how your partner moves

[12:50:17] You've got to see if you're changing team entirely going from you know

[12:50:22] The red team over to the blue team you've got to see exactly how the blue team work throughout the entire time

[12:50:26] Because otherwise, you know if you've just been red team your entire life

[12:50:29] Sometimes if you're a melee you don't even know what the blue team are doing you got nothing

[12:50:31] They're on the other side of a giant, you know

[12:50:34] Spider or a giant like scarabby dude. You can't see nothing. All I see him now is doing the saucy when he stood over there

[12:50:40] I just seem jamming to the music. Yeah, he's a jammy Chungus is what he is. He's shaking what he owns

[12:50:46] Yeah, and he owns a lot

[12:50:52] Parking heat this boy. Oh, man. Yeah, so don't worry too much about getting there through phase one

[12:50:57] They'll uh, they're just working out the kicks every classically in world first raiding

[12:51:01] You make it as easy as possible to get far into the fight

[12:51:04] Then you classically make the rest of the fight harder to get deeper into the fight where you're gonna need more stuff

[12:51:08] So it's all very normal for them to be doing this

[12:51:11] So we'll we're not worried we they expect a few hours to kill this and get everything right

[12:51:17] We'll put that to the test. That's for sure because we'll be right here with you along the way

[12:51:21] But one thing's for sure they need to kill it

[12:51:24] it would be big sad for them if they don't.

[12:51:26] It would be a big morale hit if they were unable to take this boss down.

[12:51:31] And it would be kind of sucky in terms of info,

[12:51:34] but I honestly think the biggest loss would be morale.

[12:51:37] I think there's actually, it depends on when they can kill it,

[12:51:41] but I don't know there's a whole lot to gain in terms of big time prog,

[12:51:45] like actual players moving around and killing the boss on the last boss here.

[12:51:50] I don't know, there's too much of that that we're going to be able to get done today,

[12:51:53] Regardless of when this dies regardless phase one of answer a and we were talking about down since this morning before liquid

[12:52:00] killed

[12:52:01] killed the silken core is like

[12:52:03] Phase one's gonna have some changes, but the real nasty business is gonna be phase three

[12:52:07] Like we all know that they're probably gonna have to be in phase three like this one's shifted right in normal and heroic

[12:52:12] You barely see phase three

[12:52:15] Yeah, all the bosses like practically dead by the time you get to phase three if you've been doing it correctly

[12:52:20] And then they switched it so in mythic like 50% of the bosses phase 3 are close to and

[12:52:27] I can't remember the last time we had a boss

[12:52:28] Well, actually I can it was Razorgath the last first the last boss that had a first phase that was actually difficult

[12:52:35] So like is in the last boss of a great year. When was the

[12:52:39] First recent time that we had that and that was Razorgath. That was it and it was

[12:52:42] That was weird.

[12:52:43] That could be the Sarkarath phase one died like in like five balls or something.

[12:52:49] It was very quickly worked out for Thrak as well in terms of how long it took to get

[12:52:54] through that phase as well.

[12:52:55] Well, this last time we see the phase one of an end boss that's on a timer.

[12:53:00] So like people were like chilling and still getting through all the phases, getting all

[12:53:04] the information they needed.

[12:53:05] Obviously difficult to execute in the finale, but when your boss is just on a flat

[12:53:08] timer, you're getting a lot of info.

[12:53:11] that we did yesterday here with the 10 month play. So there's two different

[12:53:14] mindsets for that. One of the reasons I believe, I'm not a dev but I think this

[12:53:18] is one of the reasons that they've switched to a more timer based structure

[12:53:22] for fights is so that we don't have to sit around and wait for our CDs. It was

[12:53:29] something that we did all the time when it was like well the you know the

[12:53:32] boss is going to transition at 80%. If we can just wait a few moments then

[12:53:36] we can go into the second phase with that like that way my CDs will be up

[12:53:40] we can slam the really really difficult phase. You don't really do that all too often.

[12:53:43] Funnily enough, on one fight that you do do it on is this one. As Liquid did indeed in the second

[12:53:48] intermission hold their damage a little bit so they went into the last phase with much

[12:53:52] good CD alignment as possible, which is incredibly sad to hear.

[12:53:56] Old school?

[12:53:56] Yeah, not because of the strat that Liquid did, by the way, that's an entirely regret

[12:53:59] thing. I'm not giving them grief. It's sad that that's a thing again.

[12:54:03] Because no one likes that.

[12:54:04] That was so close, boys.

[12:54:05] That was terrifying.

[12:54:05] There's gotta be a lot of that, because I think Kush died also getting three stacks, you do not want to do that, two is what you want, two is okay, two is fine as the shield is down, and we're into phase two.

[12:54:19] We have used combat res, but they're all alive, and now let's see if they can get this drag in correct. There's a little confusion, we saw Blue out of place earlier, all those kinds of things.

[12:54:28] those kinds of things. So now they'll be lining up nicely because when you get dragged in the

[12:54:32] teams will be alternated on their dragons. So one team will go first like the Blues just

[12:54:36] did then and then they need to spread.

[12:54:39] So we'll just run straight into the red group.

[12:54:41] Yeah, unfortunately, all terrorists attack.

[12:54:44] Yeah, I thought many just cut that movement a little bit too fine. A little bit confused

[12:54:50] as to where the enemy team was. So you can just see a good old explosion there.

[12:54:54] So, functionately, a little bit of a power.

[12:54:57] You saw a lot of people die there because of course if the opposite colors do touch each other

[12:55:02] It goes boom that is what happens. It really does. Yeah, so don't look at that right the next couple of poles

[12:55:08] It's just about orientation. It's always weird when you get like gripped across an area

[12:55:12] You do you can just get your orientation a little if you yeah, you can be a little over the place

[12:55:16] That's easy enough to do so it's time. They'll have to get used to unfortunately

[12:55:19] I have to get all the way to face you to start practicing it

[12:55:22] But um, they did actually manage to interrupt the boss

[12:55:24] Also, well done for that, at least, they're going to get a second web vortex here.

[12:55:27] I think it's important to at least give it a go.

[12:55:29] Are we going to see?

[12:55:32] No, they're doing something different.

[12:55:33] Yeah, yeah, that's all they're doing it differently.

[12:55:35] Because this is Roger Cookin.

[12:55:36] Yeah, normally they would have one team going towards the wall.

[12:55:39] Maybe that's only a phase three strategy for Liquid, actually.

[12:55:41] Maybe I'm talking nonsense.

[12:55:43] I know that they do it very heavily in phase three.

[12:55:45] I'm not sure if it's actually that important in phase two.

[12:55:47] So this is for uptime.

[12:55:49] They're actually crushing the boss damage wise.

[12:55:51] Even with all these people dead, they've been doing very well.

[12:55:53] Yeah, I think we're looking for 45% I believe as we're going into the last phase if we're

[12:56:00] going to be on pace to where Liquid were, but of course Liquid, I believe on their pool had

[12:56:04] their very best damage going into the last phase as well.

[12:56:07] On the kill pool that is.

[12:56:08] But I have managed to stun the boss again, we are going to be able to see the second

[12:56:11] intermission which is nice, even if it's just for practice sake, it's something

[12:56:15] they haven't seen all too often.

[12:56:17] Boss getting slammed on down here.

[12:56:18] Yeah, this is pretty cool, they lost grips, okay they saved the res for Muras, that

[12:56:22] That makes a lot of sense.

[12:56:24] They want their tanks up.

[12:56:25] So again, this is all about position practice.

[12:56:26] Make sure everybody can see what the new plan is.

[12:56:28] Roger, I see, can we just cut some Roger

[12:56:30] for a second?

[12:56:31] Cause are you like hard coaching right now?

[12:56:32] Yep.

[12:56:33] Yeah.

[12:56:34] Roger sees this all in his mind's eye,

[12:56:37] like the profit.

[12:56:38] It reminds me sometimes of Minority Report.

[12:56:39] He's like in some bath somewhere.

[12:56:41] He's like projecting some image.

[12:56:43] Some crew is a scrip and he's like,

[12:56:45] yes, I see it now.

[12:56:46] The profits of Spook and Samisees,

[12:56:48] all the things, all outcomes.

[12:56:50] Reading the tea leaves.

[12:56:52] full oracle roger seeing into the future doing everything that you can to develop the strategies

[12:56:58] yeah so mirrors has died again unfortunately so this is might be a relatively short live of

[12:57:04] course blizzard changing the fight they it's kind of funny blizzard changed the fight so you

[12:57:08] couldn't one-tank it the guys realized oh we can still totally one-tank this and they've

[12:57:12] That's a change you cannot know. We're telling you guys stop one second. That's enough

[12:57:19] Yeah, I did you was like left right now all bad and I have no blink and I don't know how to play my character now

[12:57:24] Okay, if I don't have blink, I don't have it. Yep. So we're in the final phase

[12:57:28] Here we are my friends. This is the final phase of the fight

[12:57:31] So what I'm gonna get very far. No the main thing for this last phase is that like her for anyone

[12:57:36] Who's unaware of the base sort of mechanics of this flight is that you are now having to stun

[12:57:40] You are having the wall shot. You can see them there. There you go

[12:57:42] You can see the red team going to the wall because you don't not only do you have to stun the boss by dispelling

[12:57:49] Diseases into her. I just leave the magic debuffs into her. Sorry, but then you've also got to use the tripwires

[12:57:55] So it's a very very difficult part that as you're going to see here

[12:57:58] Both groups are going to be gripped in this team group gripped first being told to go left or right

[12:58:03] They confuse us to where to go and then the red team getting gripped in and they'll hopefully soak the

[12:58:06] Ops as they go through something they need to improve on is so can those orbs as they pass through the boss

[12:58:10] Because that is quite a fundamental part of the liquid strategy at least.

[12:58:14] You can see that some of the webs have been saved.

[12:58:17] Not enough, but some of them did.

[12:58:19] That wasn't bad at all, that was okay.

[12:58:22] And that's exactly why they need to do some reps on this stuff.

[12:58:24] This is stuff they're actually going to clean up pretty quickly on.

[12:58:26] Oh yeah, you can see the makings of it.

[12:58:29] The base shape is there.

[12:58:31] Just need to do the reps and we'll be fine.

[12:58:32] I have no idea why I'm still holding this.

[12:58:35] Why do you have that?

[12:58:37] the Herok week we were delving and that was part of my explorers kit that I think gets to

[12:58:43] have a lot of explore. We also have some binoculars next to the Red Bull fridge behind you.

[12:58:46] Oh no way are they real? Yeah. Well that's real actually.

[12:58:52] Damn. Sad times. Sad times indeed. Yeah no you think you know a guy.

[12:59:00] I hate fake binoculars. Oh these work. I think they actually are real binoculars.

[12:59:05] They have a magnification factor of about 1.1

[12:59:08] But they are real!

[12:59:10] They are real!

[12:59:11] I've got a hat somewhere around here, but I think Jordan might still have a hat there.

[12:59:14] I'm not playing Dress Up, that's not happening.

[12:59:16] Well if you get your donations in...

[12:59:18] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, we have had enough juicy vinegary pickles, hot dogs.

[12:59:23] Although I did buy, you know, you know what I feel really mean is I actually got these protein bars for the guys.

[12:59:29] Oh yeah.

[12:59:30] As an actual gift.

[12:59:32] but they assumed that I was trolling them

[12:59:34] and wanted to make a hot dog protein bar sandwich.

[12:59:36] So they refused to touch them.

[12:59:38] They didn't touch them because they were like,

[12:59:39] I got asked this morning by a medic,

[12:59:40] he was like, what was the donation thought process

[12:59:44] behind the protein bars?

[12:59:45] And I'm like, nothing.

[12:59:47] It's just that we didn't have any protein for dinner.

[12:59:48] So I got you a protein bar as a treat.

[12:59:50] And he's like, never even occurred to me.

[12:59:52] It's just being nice gesture.

[12:59:54] Yeah, I think that's fair.

[12:59:55] Yeah, that's fair.

[12:59:56] It's a suspicious thing just to be giving food

[12:59:59] on the couch.

[13:00:01] Every single time I've eaten here, it's gone wrong.

[13:00:04] Well, there has been a crime committed,

[13:00:05] and none of you guys have noticed already.

[13:00:07] For some reason, our wonderful Jardin

[13:00:09] has been banished from the picture frames.

[13:00:11] She's no longer welcome.

[13:00:12] I need to aim this in a way that doesn't reflect.

[13:00:15] Yeah, look, and is that Nagura who's been full cut out?

[13:00:19] It is.

[13:00:20] Nagura's been full removed.

[13:00:22] There we go.

[13:00:23] Oh, there's a tiny little glare on the painter there.

[13:00:26] Hold on, let's see if we can fix that.

[13:00:29] That's pretty good.

[13:00:30] Everybody, oh you can see me what how am I?

[13:00:33] I'm how am I in Jesse's picture frame now because you're reflecting

[13:00:38] Through what mechanism the television are the television? That's how light works

[13:00:45] We're gonna need to do something else production being really nice and telling me that I was very smart

[13:00:53] Does not have a fix I thought it's not understanding

[13:00:56] I don't understand light. It's very confusing. So

[13:01:02] Refraction oh reflection a different things. It's very confusing. Yeah, I'll get better kids to explain it

[13:01:07] I think I'm I think I'm a ghost

[13:01:10] I am now in the frame, so that needs to be

[13:01:13] Just sink down like not worry the guys are pulling it's all good for we obviously want to give big shots our sponsors display

[13:01:18] Oh, yes, have you seen the the signed one? It's a here. I don't know where the signed one is

[13:01:22] I've got this giant one hold. I'll grab it. It's really this is textured a wonderful texture. Displaced there display

[13:01:30] Very nice beautiful. Are you found it?

[13:01:34] Well done. Well done

[13:01:36] Get that headset back on

[13:01:38] See I'm using the light here Mike to show that off. I do

[13:01:45] Is that cool? It's got all the signatures of all the raiders on it dudes. They arrived here yesterday

[13:01:50] Today, it's got everybody on their show,

[13:01:52] Skype, Salted, Wall Life, Mitch is on here,

[13:01:55] Sinestro, Production is on here.

[13:01:57] Oh, yeah.

[13:01:58] We're not.

[13:01:58] No.

[13:02:00] Disappointing.

[13:02:00] Who would want us to play?

[13:02:01] We take the hint.

[13:02:03] Sure.

[13:02:04] And their texture as well.

[13:02:06] So, I'm trying to show it in the lights.

[13:02:07] You can see that it will, there you go.

[13:02:08] You can see it's fully embossed.

[13:02:10] Gives a nice refraction on the lights,

[13:02:11] but it's got the signatures of all the players.

[13:02:13] A wonderful way to remember the races.

[13:02:15] I know some of you have been collecting these

[13:02:17] since we started doing them,

[13:02:18] but that's the new one.

[13:02:18] And it's really nice.

[13:02:19] It's very very nice. I like this one a hell of a lot

[13:02:22] Yeah, and it does come with all the synchers of the players embossed and applied to it

[13:02:27] But we in our in in other terms

[13:02:29] We have the largest site-wide discount code for displays on the whole website

[13:02:33] So if you're not looking for ours code echo, which is up to look at you 7%

[13:02:38] Yep, it's a huge

[13:02:39] Huge discount and obviously got everything sort of like hobbyist aspect of it any sort of side-firing nerd

[13:02:46] It exists movies all kinds of stuff on despite website for you to check out if you want to decorate and as you've seen

[13:02:52] They're super easy to do their magnetic posters so you can swap them around do all sorts

[13:02:56] I do all the time. I found it very useful to decorate my office with them

[13:03:00] Yeah, very very nice. I can't use them all the time like depending on the feeling of walking. I'm like

[13:03:03] I want some half-life to on the wall. Yeah, I'll do that. Yeah, it's a little nightmares now

[13:03:10] Just a little I love

[13:03:12] Very cute. Very cool game.

[13:03:14] Have you played both?

[13:03:15] I have not played the second one.

[13:03:17] Is the second one better?

[13:03:18] Or good still?

[13:03:20] Bad?

[13:03:22] Really bad?

[13:03:23] Really good.

[13:03:24] Oh, there we go.

[13:03:26] If you like the first one.

[13:03:27] I do like the first one.

[13:03:28] Oh, you're in for a good time then.

[13:03:29] Nice! Very cool.

[13:03:30] You're in for a very, very good time.

[13:03:31] You're in for a very good time.

[13:03:32] Recommend, because the third one's coming.

[13:03:33] Oh, is it?

[13:03:34] It is.

[13:03:35] In fact, the devs don't think of...

[13:03:37] There's something weird happened.

[13:03:38] Don't shoot me if I'm wrong,

[13:03:39] but I believe the people who made

[13:03:41] The original have actually made a different game now, which is basically another sequel to it, but they're not with the same overarching studio.

[13:03:49] You know, like Demon's Souls, can't be... they couldn't keep the name Demon's Souls, because that was owned by Sony.

[13:03:56] They was owned by Sony, so then they made Dark Souls, even though it's obviously the same.

[13:04:00] Sort of complicated, man. Who knows what's going on.

[13:04:03] IP licensing, friend. It's really fun and an engaging experience.

[13:04:09] There's nothing more fun than IP license issues, I tell you.

[13:04:12] My favourite.

[13:04:14] Every time I deal with it, I'm like, wow, this is great.

[13:04:18] What are you dealing with all the time?

[13:04:21] What are you doing?

[13:04:22] It's causing you to deal with IP licensing, Mike.

[13:04:24] Things in the future.

[13:04:26] That you may not see.

[13:04:29] No, I'm not making a pickle game.

[13:04:32] And there's nobody who owns the IP on pickles that we've checked.

[13:04:36] It's called gobble that pickle. It's a wonderful flat trowel. It's a wonderful flat trowel for the hours.

[13:04:43] Perfect for the bathroom and if anybody asks what you're doing, I'm gobbling my pickle.

[13:04:47] That's what I'm doing. I've got a high score and it'll spray vinegar in your mouth all the day.

[13:04:51] But of course, the reason they are showing that and Alex mentioned earlier, although I'm not putting anything in my mouth,

[13:04:55] is that you guys are very 22,227 dollary dues.

[13:04:59] Very true for games for love, which is providing wonderful entertainment and distraction therapy

[13:05:04] of kids who are trapped in hospital with horrible diseases like cancer and things like that where they just can't get out of hospital and lose their childhood as a way of spending some time there without literally staring at a hospital wall.

[13:05:15] For anybody who's spent any amount of time in hospital, you know how miserable it is and imagine if you did that as a kid, it would be pretty grim.

[13:05:21] But not only that, they also provide aftercare for them to help them with their education, to try and get them back into co-op with what the rest of their friends have been doing while playing.

[13:05:30] So, wonderful cars and a great way of sending messages to us.

[13:05:32] If you fancy doing that, that is wonderful, because we've got scuffed cosplay coming for you,

[13:05:37] RC Rumble, all sorts of cool things we're doing here in order to...

[13:05:41] a little bit of encouragement, but it's all for a good cause.

[13:05:43] Yeah, really, really is. And you guys have been so, so generous up to this point,

[13:05:46] so to keep those donations going as we're working our way through the last two bosses

[13:05:50] in the Narrowbar Palace, probably got ourselves, I don't know, probably until around Friday or so,

[13:05:54] until this is all wrapped up.

[13:05:56] I mean, there's no way Answerx is like a 700 puller.

[13:06:00] Right.

[13:06:01] So until Sunday, until this is all wraps up, I'm not, I am getting like 200, 250 pull

[13:06:10] from Answerx.

[13:06:11] I don't know why.

[13:06:12] Just go to the wire properly.

[13:06:13] Yeah, just seeing how that they've kind of, I think it was a little bit of a anomaly,

[13:06:19] a little bit of a freak sort of accident that the two bosses in the center were

[13:06:23] so tough.

[13:06:24] Do you think so?

[13:06:25] the opposite camp. If they did it on purpose, then I think they've made a mistake by doing

[13:06:31] it on purpose. Interesting. But not because of the race, I think it worked very well for

[13:06:35] the race, but they might have forgotten that at the moment we have over 380 guilds killing

[13:06:40] four bosses on Mythic. That's the mistake. And for sure, there's only seven guilds who

[13:06:45] have killed five. So we've got like 370 odd guilds who are just like, well, this

[13:06:51] This is fun, I think it might even be more than that, I think that might not include all of the data from the 20 servers and what not.

[13:07:01] I think that's the main issue, if I was playing the game right now I'd be a bit like, but they are doing nerfs and we'll of course be getting buffs and stuff like that.

[13:07:07] So I think that's the major drop, if the raid was bigger then you could have had it so that the last 4 bosses, similar to something like Sepulka where Anduin onwards was rough.

[13:07:18] Because there was already so many bosses in between that had like these little mechanical checks that

[13:07:24] Guilds like Echo and Liquid absolutely stomp through

[13:07:28] having no issues whatsoever, but now the

[13:07:31] Obviously there wasn't enough of those. Yeah, I fully agree with your stance there

[13:07:35] I think the rate I think a lesson taken away from buzz this was you probably want at least a 10 boss raid to allow a

[13:07:41] less steeper gap between your really hard bosses and your

[13:07:45] or your entryway bosses, let's call them,

[13:07:49] just allow that smooth progression through,

[13:07:52] because we did have like,

[13:07:53] End of Wind was a solid first end boss

[13:07:55] for the vast, vast majority of guilds.

[13:07:58] And similarly, we have the bit like Smolderon,

[13:08:01] great end boss for a lot of guilds.

[13:08:03] So sure.

[13:08:04] In the first week pushers, you know,

[13:08:05] you top 200s and above everything in between.

[13:08:09] That was great for them,

[13:08:10] but we haven't had that this time.

[13:08:12] I would say my anomaly though,

[13:08:14] given what we've seen.

[13:08:15] Yeah, it's actually this one.

[13:08:17] I think they took the feedback a little bit.

[13:08:19] I think this is supposed to be harder than what it is.

[13:08:21] I know Echo haven't killed the end and they're now wiping in Phase 1,

[13:08:23] but you get what I'm saying.

[13:08:25] It's that it does feel a little out of line with what's come before,

[13:08:30] especially Nexus Princess,

[13:08:31] which they tuned and fine-tuned that HP

[13:08:33] for me very intentionally to be as challenging as it was.

[13:08:36] But if you look back at the entirety of Earth's expansion

[13:08:39] and then include this,

[13:08:41] I think this is actually quite a normal Phenoma boss.

[13:08:44] was crazy didn't make any sense super nuts weren't expecting it but if you look at broodkeeper which

[13:08:51] was the little boss going about sporting all the ads and whatnot at the end of vault of the

[13:08:57] Incarnate just before raza geth oh yes that boss that's about it that's my description a little

[13:09:05] bit dull a little bit easy to kind of overcome it was cool fight to like get down the first

[13:09:10] first time, but it was not everyone's favorite. Then you look at Echo and Elfarion, that's

[13:09:15] also kind of around this, but I think it was around 100.

[13:09:16] How surprising and easy, 70 I want to say. Yeah, they managed to...

[13:09:21] It got beat by a private aura. I think that was where Blizzard were like, okay, we're

[13:09:24] giving you this really hard mechanic to do and you haven't got Weakorids anymore and

[13:09:27] the girls went, right. That's true, but we can also just go, and now everything's

[13:09:33] just Weakorid in the same way. I'm not sure if it was the first tier or the

[13:09:39] second tier where they were really trying to make a departure from

[13:09:43] weak or a heavy fights with that. They went a little overboard though, it was too fast to not do without a weak core, so of course it was all by a weak core.

[13:09:49] So yeah, like my vibe generally is though, is that in the like, sort of, in my mind's eye, like in terms of the end, like what a penultimate boss is supposed to be, something in that region that say if you want the end boss to be 300 pulls, you want the penultimate boss to live somewhere in that 150 to 200 range, which this perfectly fits.

[13:10:05] Tindra was an anomaly. What this boss could have been would have blown that out of the water and been even worse

[13:10:11] You know so I think for the health of the game makes a lot of sense

[13:10:15] Maybe if we really want to see you this fight in its true glory

[13:10:18] They could redo it and maybe remix it with other bosses and maybe like make it a really long encounter

[13:10:24] Maybe do it with like a limited amount of people maybe like 10 man or something

[13:10:28] Yeah

[13:10:28] Well, I wouldn't have it drop gear so the people don't feel fast to do that

[13:10:31] I'd have it drop like cosmetics. So you'd like to say you get a really cool weapon skin

[13:10:36] Yeah, that'll be awesome like one specific weapon skin for each class that would be cool

[13:10:42] So it's not a title or anything, but you could just tell if someone's got this really cool transmog is like oh they did like

[13:10:49] What would we call it like expert mode I don't know well either way like the achievement would be pretty ultimate

[13:10:55] So it would be an ultimate thing to do. Yeah, and you can make it if it's 10 man as well

[13:10:59] You can make it so the fights are so difficult you couldn't even boost it

[13:11:03] That's crazy. So the people that did get it. Would you know they're evergreen so let's say somebody wanted that skin

[13:11:09] But they obviously didn't weren't able to do it now that maybe they could come back in the future

[13:11:12] Oh, that's a cool idea

[13:11:13] Maybe you could like sink it with some sort of like time walking style system like flashpoint it in time

[13:11:18] Yeah, like it stores the characters

[13:11:21] So you know what they were at that time. Mm-hmm that would be cool

[13:11:24] So then if you did get stronger gear it could have a little effect on it, but like nothing major

[13:11:28] Yeah, right? Yeah, that's probably the same spell. Just to be excited a bit stronger. Yeah, that'd be cool. That was sweet. Yeah, we should become game designers.

[13:11:36] I'm sure Blizzard have no idea I've never considered that as an idea before. I think we just solved video games. Well done, Mike. That was us.

[13:11:44] High five. Just a day at work.

[13:11:46] Oh dude, so we get done every single step in a way.

[13:11:51] Every single session, me and Mike solving the world's gaming problems.

[13:11:55] Next housing.

[13:11:56] And we thought we could die our game, baby.

[13:12:00] I think a lot of people would like sort of like a mage tower sort of style experience with like difficult markers.

[13:12:07] Yeah, apparently I haven't tried it yet.

[13:12:09] The delve mage tower quote unquote is just kind of impossible for most classes right now.

[13:12:15] I haven't yet to try so please take that with a pinch of salt

[13:12:18] I've done the first version because that was very easy like one shots it but are you talking about the question mark question mark difficulty like

[13:12:23] Yeah

[13:12:25] I went down and it was like ooh question mark difficulty. Oh, this is kind of tickling my balls in the right place

[13:12:30] You know, I mean, you know

[13:12:35] It was like one shot I was like, oh, okay

[13:12:38] Uh, and anyway, ah, but have you tried question mark question marker? But you gotta do a Dell 10 and I haven't been bothered to do that yet

[13:12:44] So I haven't got my teeth in for this expansion enough just yet

[13:12:47] I'm I am an R after each race. I it's kind of feels random as to whether or not I'm gonna be sending it

[13:12:52] But I'm getting I'm getting the vibe that I might be playing a little bit

[13:12:54] I'm after after race. I mean you're always gonna have fun with the tier for a good month or so

[13:12:59] Even if you're not planning to stick around for the whole thing, which is fine

[13:13:02] By the way, it's how a lot of us play these days is like hey, I consume the vast majority of the dinner

[13:13:06] I'll leave I'll leave some of the bits on the sides like that's okay. Um

[13:13:10] I'm feeling that too, he's okay.

[13:13:14] Yeah you do get plenty of time with the first one before it detonates so you can sort of

[13:13:17] trundle your way over.

[13:13:18] It's just so chill for ranged.

[13:13:20] Yeah it's actually jokes.

[13:13:22] Compared to what the melee do it's such jokes.

[13:13:24] It's a full AFK.

[13:13:25] Alright, praise one done.

[13:13:26] Excellent.

[13:13:27] So we're going to be seeing some grips.

[13:13:28] This is the thing they've been mainly struggling here with is that the boss will be indeed

[13:13:33] using web vortex.

[13:13:34] It's going to be dragging in all of the red team right now.

[13:13:37] Hopefully they're not going to clip any of the blue team and the blue team

[13:13:39] are now also going to go and break their chains now, then they've got to go and soak the orbs.

[13:13:44] When you're gripped in, you do spawn the orbs. You can see that they don't go for the same

[13:13:47] sort of direct strap right now that Liquid were doing where you soak as you move out. Instead,

[13:13:54] they focus on breaking their chains as soon as possible and then returning to come and do

[13:13:57] their soak, which is a different idea. I don't think it's going to be what they do in

[13:14:02] the last phase because of course you need to keep some of those chains in order to

[13:14:05] to, um, stun, uh, a Nubirax charge across the room, a Nubiraxes charge across the room.

[13:14:12] So it's, um, gonna be a little bit different in phase, uh, three. I thought that they'd

[13:14:17] be keeping the strategy though so you could just like replicate it back to back, but obviously

[13:14:20] that's not what they're designed to do. They're going for a better burn in phase

[13:14:24] two to reduce phase three. Maybe. That seems to be what I'm seeing here. Is they're

[13:14:29] just, they're, they're focusing up time more than maybe liquid did.

[13:14:33] I don't like that at all.

[13:14:35] I don't like that at all.

[13:14:37] The way that they...

[13:14:39] Oh no.

[13:14:41] I don't like that.

[13:14:43] I get what they're doing, but...

[13:14:45] It's spooky.

[13:14:47] They look like they're trying to go to the left and right

[13:14:49] of the second team.

[13:14:51] But that can lead that if the...

[13:14:53] So the red team there

[13:14:55] we're going to be...

[13:14:57] Sorry, the blue team, we're going to go to the sides of the red team that we're going to get grip through the middle.

[13:14:59] But if you're just one person out of place

[13:15:01] then you will have a collision like we did have.

[13:15:03] We can see that big boom.

[13:15:05] The storm is doing so fast, by the way.

[13:15:08] It's really quick.

[13:15:09] One thing that I think you want to do actually is get it to the very, very last second of the cast

[13:15:14] because it increases the time that you get in this phase.

[13:15:16] This fight hasn't got a... it doesn't seem to, at least,

[13:15:19] have an enrage based on the overall fight timer.

[13:15:22] Each phase lasts for X seconds.

[13:15:25] So the first phase lasts until the boss has done two charges.

[13:15:28] The second phase lasts until the boss has been stunned twice and then there'll be like one of two abilities and then she'll leave

[13:15:33] Same with the intermissions

[13:15:34] They last until you break the shield and then the last phase just lasts three minutes from when you enter it

[13:15:40] So the longer you can anything you can do to increase the time in your phase the better. What happened

[13:15:54] Any

[13:15:58] was fantastic.

[13:15:59] It's so funny.

[13:16:00] If you don't, you're going to explain it.

[13:16:03] Someone was stunned, if you see over there on the left-hand side, someone's on an impaling

[13:16:07] spike, so someone of the blue team got stunned up in that spike.

[13:16:11] We were going over to help them, but Kaneks just decided to help them by just removing

[13:16:15] them from this mortal coil and just having the red and the blue meat.

[13:16:19] You can't tell, do you?

[13:16:20] It was very difficult to see.

[13:16:21] I think you can just tell, but I think Kaneks missed it.

[13:16:23] It was very funny.

[13:16:24] It was like opening a present that's a boxing glove inside it.

[13:16:28] That's what it looked like to me.

[13:16:30] He's like, I'll help you friend.

[13:16:32] Oh, God.

[13:16:32] Oh, full of shame.

[13:16:36] Phase three, baby.

[13:16:36] So you're going to see Red Team now going,

[13:16:38] this is a liquid special here that they,

[13:16:41] I don't know if Ekko were using this towards the end of that day,

[13:16:43] so I apologize if they were.

[13:16:44] They'll tell us they thought of it last year.

[13:16:45] But yeah, for sure.

[13:16:46] But they're going to be baiting the frontal.

[13:16:49] Going to have a little bit of AoE damage coming in here

[13:16:51] from Nuburash, who is that stinging swarm,

[13:16:54] that unleashed swarm, excuse me,

[13:16:55] just doing ever increasing damage to the group.

[13:16:57] But now one team is towards the wall, one team is towards the side, you can see that the grip has gone through, you're going to soak some oxygen to go along.

[13:17:03] Spooky enough for getting three orbs.

[13:17:06] Yeah, that didn't look how it's supposed to.

[13:17:09] It's supposed to be more chill than that.

[13:17:11] The red should be more spread, because you're real... Oh, that was a blink snap.

[13:17:16] So I think what they're doing is they're making it so red team is always the team that are going to be doing the tethers.

[13:17:23] Because you saw that red team did not break their chains there

[13:17:27] They didn't pass directly through the boss and said they got gripped in and they moved straight away to the right-hand side from their perspective

[13:17:32] Right, so it went in and to the right in order to keep their tethers alive where's a blue team

[13:17:36] But they went into the boss and then just kind of died

[13:17:42] Red ops there that assumes blue you can't just face roll into all the ops

[13:17:47] That is super sketch. That was very yeah

[13:17:49] Yeah, you get dragged in and you're presented with this wall of red olives, and if you get three of them, you're marked for death, like, you don't want that.

[13:17:54] So they need to be a little bit more spread out and then holding on to them, but it's interesting if they can keep the red team doing that, because I was under the impression that it kind of randomly chooses where the blue's going first.

[13:18:04] I think it goes blue then red, then blue then red.

[13:18:06] I'm not entirely too sure who the first dragon is.

[13:18:10] So the way that the drags work, for me, at least in my mind's eye, it was entirely random, but you could be right in terms of we might know who's going to be going in first.

[13:18:17] But it seems that the fact that we had it so that the red team who were gripped in first was still the people who held onto their tethers in order to do the thing.

[13:18:26] Oh, here we go. This is Ryzen's part.

[13:18:28] Oh, it's Ryzen. Watch the violin blue team come to help.

[13:18:33] Galaxy is like, I'll save you.

[13:18:35] Come on, mighty spells.

[13:18:41] You can smile.

[13:18:42] Oh, Ryzen's smile. It's funny.

[13:18:44] Oh, I think it's probably probably a bit annoyed at himself for getting stunned. He does. Yeah

[13:18:49] He does take it personally if he fails a mechanic. Yeah, I know this fight obviously already very difficult for the healers, but

[13:18:55] That on top of it. It's nice to see a bit more of a healing normal ceiling setup though

[13:18:59] Oh, yeah, yeah, and we've been less stressful a little bit

[13:19:03] Yeah, no, it was very degenerate the healing comps that have been required thus far or not required

[13:19:09] But at least utilize well the top teams where it's just like how many preservation evoke as can I fit in this comp?

[13:19:13] while still maintaining raid buffs or maybe potential healing CD's such as like

[13:19:18] spelling me my one but have you heard of our Lord and Savior in golf pretty much

[13:19:23] let me tell you about in golf and how it works I go yeah I'm just surprised at how

[13:19:28] heavy evokers have turned up and not necessarily just org no a lot of dev as

[13:19:33] well mainly from liquid liquid have been really really pushing their dev

[13:19:36] and it's a great effect don't be wrong like makes me feel bad because I was

[13:19:40] playing Devon week one, I wasn't doing that well. I'm starting to think maybe it was me.

[13:19:45] Is it a me problem? You know what Al? The less you think about it the better.

[13:19:50] Are you having fun? I am now. That's what matters. I'm having fun now. That's what matters. The less

[13:19:55] I think the more fun I have. Yeah. I mean have you thought of turning off your meters?

[13:20:00] Might be for the best. Well the thing is I don't have it so I'm always on my meters.

[13:20:04] I have the top 10 so I might as well have not had my meters. Yeah I don't do that either.

[13:20:09] I don't know. There's something about having that on. I get why you do it, but it also indicates that you're regularly not in the top view.

[13:20:14] Yeah.

[13:20:15] So you just have to... Not that it might be your fault!

[13:20:17] Perhaps because it has given you some class imbalance.

[13:20:21] Week 1.

[13:20:22] I was missing my buffs.

[13:20:25] The music stopped, so there we go. That's the end of it. Oh no, the arse returned.

[13:20:30] It was about as very short music loop, so I'm gonna make it last as long as possible.

[13:20:35] Do you have a friend like Alex?

[13:20:37] You know someone who's suffering from small damage.

[13:20:42] If you do, it's not over for them, but there are many things you can do.

[13:20:47] One hits a game for love today, and people like Alex can learn to play games when they're

[13:20:53] younger, and maybe when they're older and senile, and can't find a hairpin, and maybe

[13:20:59] then they'll do some damage.

[13:21:03] Trust me they won't, but it's a nice thought.

[13:21:05] We can all help in our own special way.

[13:21:09] That's what we can do.

[13:21:10] We've all been there.

[13:21:11] We can't win the damage all the time.

[13:21:15] That's Mark things.

[13:21:17] I just played Hunter and hope for the best.

[13:21:20] Yep.

[13:21:21] I can make dreams come true on my Hunter.

[13:21:23] God bless all the Raid Leader Hunters out there who are utilising their mobility to

[13:21:27] get a lot of things done.

[13:21:28] They are wonderful people.

[13:21:29] Many majors I find that are making some of the best Raid Leaders surprisingly enough.

[13:21:33] Historically pretty good.

[13:21:34] I'm sure there has been times in the past that we've had it here and there actually I do believe that Max in liquid it was a very strong list.

[13:21:44] I mean, this is pre outside raid leader. Yeah, right in the old days.

[13:21:48] pre Nylotha I want to say. Yeah Nylotha was the first time we saw it used to a very

[13:21:55] public effect I'm not sure I'm sure there has been times in the past we've had

[13:21:59] it here and there yeah I actually I do believe the Maxine liquid it was a

[13:22:04] limit of the time whatever you sit on the penultimate boss of the Azshara

[13:22:09] tier which is the cool it might not be so cool the guy with the tonic the

[13:22:15] The tentacle guy in the realm, Queen Azshara, because, again, mechanics, that was one tankable.

[13:22:20] Yep.

[13:22:21] So, and he thought the other tank would be better and he could call it from the outside

[13:22:23] and then they were like, oh, this is kind of cool.

[13:22:25] I think that's the history behind it.

[13:22:26] Could be talking nonsense, but that's also what I'm here to do.

[13:22:29] Shadow Priest fun.

[13:22:30] Shadow Priest fun.

[13:22:31] Yeah, that fight was Shadow Priest fun.

[13:22:33] He sent the Shadow Priest out on their own into that secondary realm and they just

[13:22:37] survived forever.

[13:22:38] Oh, they just survived forever.

[13:22:39] Yeah, it was the only fight Fingal was interested in.

[13:22:41] No one was interested in Azshara though.

[13:22:42] No.

[13:22:43] I watched Theodora Kill more recently, again, just how it happened here.

[13:22:47] Did you see me?

[13:22:48] Yes!

[13:22:49] I was there!

[13:22:50] I was there as well!

[13:22:51] Do you remember the silly little intermission phases where the difficult part was just finding

[13:22:56] a weak aura that worked and that was it?

[13:22:58] That was so painful!

[13:23:00] It's weird that the argument against add-ons specifically targeting weak aura, when people

[13:23:05] say with bad add-ons they generally are referring to weak aura, it's crap what

[13:23:09] what your games look like. It's so highlighted now, but it was so much worse. This is heaven

[13:23:17] compared to what we used to have to have. It's generally because Blizzard have taken

[13:23:22] into account what players can do, and I think they move away from those sorts of mechanics

[13:23:28] because they know they're going to be entirely annihilated by the player base. But realistically,

[13:23:34] outside of boss time as well what do you need an add-on for in here week or wise

[13:23:37] um need mm-hmm I was having this argument with some people today like I agree

[13:23:44] brute twister kind of need week or is to match people up the eggs that that in

[13:23:50] my opinion is a bit of a pointless mechanic yeah but what on this fight do you need

[13:23:54] a week or a fall hmm not much if anything like it helps don't get me wrong

[13:24:01] I think they're assigning how they're breaking their chains with a weak aura, sometimes being told to go left, sometimes to be going right based on who you're paired with.

[13:24:11] I don't know if that's exactly what the weak aura is doing.

[13:24:13] In terms of need, need, need, need, nothing yet. It becomes to mind.

[13:24:19] And similar with...

[13:24:23] If you think about the last boss on Heroic at least, that's right, it doesn't need anything.

[13:24:28] does not need any weak aura

[13:24:31] Yeah, I really have done the try I commend buzz it. They've done a really really good job

[13:24:36] I think Brutes versus kind of the odd one out

[13:24:38] I'm no doubt there'll be something really bizarre and funky on answer ech mythic. Oh, yeah, but so far

[13:24:43] There really hasn't been anything that's like we don't even need a sick round either

[13:24:47] You can't use it on sick round for the face blades. Nope

[13:24:50] But like the game is the weak aura except you can't really use it to judge and there's no need to either you

[13:24:56] to play the game. Yeah, you're right. There's not a whole lot that you need

[13:25:00] Weak Horrors for. The spells are very obvious on the raid frames and you're

[13:25:04] just calling people out. You do not need a Weak Horror for the order. You don't need

[13:25:07] once again anything that they can. Yes. So like the top end you'll see them

[13:25:11] using Weak Horrors for a whole host of things and that's just because when

[13:25:14] they need to kill the boss as soon as possible anything that they can allow

[13:25:18] the players just to be able to visually see without having to have

[13:25:21] Skype call it out or have Roger call it out like oh the the cones are

[13:25:25] exploding in two, one, two, one, you know, as each cone explodes, instead you just have

[13:25:30] a week, like a segmented bar week or that shows when those cones are going to explode.

[13:25:34] Like that's way better for the players. They don't need to have that sort of noise.

[13:25:37] I've been bored. If anyone actually watched the top, you could go watch it on the Echoes

[13:25:41] channel now. The ultimate kill that we did in Final Fantasy Most recently, because

[13:25:46] you don't have things like week or is in that game. There was a dance that we

[13:25:49] had to do with a very strict rhythm. Oh yeah, on Omega. And yeah, this is on,

[13:25:53] the Omega right at the very end and Roger was going he had like a little song that he would sing

[13:26:01] to a very specific rhythm and we moved to that rhythm. He's like out, boom, boom, in, boom, boom,

[13:26:08] like the whole time. I was like, yeah, okay. It works. The boss died, but that's what we call

[13:26:14] as a mainly here for Echo to do is to avoid the players having to listen to Roger sing for

[13:26:20] 8 hours.

[13:26:21] It's like they could do it themselves.

[13:26:23] Yeah?

[13:26:24] Yeah.

[13:26:25] I want some Roger the Dorset tones.

[13:26:27] Yeah, I think there's some things that they might be able to do a little bit nicer, like

[13:26:31] as an example when you've soaked two or dots here, there's some things that, like, we

[13:26:34] can't have been incredibly useful for.

[13:26:36] But I wouldn't say that they're by any means necessarily mandatory.

[13:26:40] Not so far.

[13:26:41] Unless I'm missing out on something really obvious, which chances are.

[13:26:45] But if everything's a lot of reminders for the guys, like, I spot now, you know,

[13:26:49] This is coming soon like those little reminders to stop calls happening

[13:26:52] But also come with experience like the guys aren't paying any attention to them

[13:26:55] I believe me if anything it's the case of being 200 pulls deep and maybe forgetting that one pull

[13:26:59] And you're like, oh

[13:27:02] Supposed to ice block there and I forgot another thing as well is that the bosses are much more

[13:27:07] Nowadays dance based in terms of the bosses always do the same mechanics at the same time

[13:27:12] Um beforehand it would be to the way the spell queuing works or the way that you change between different phases

[13:27:18] the bosses would start with different orders. So having a boss timer, knowing whether or

[13:27:22] not the boss is going to do a tail swipe or a breath, that before was bigwigs or DBM were

[13:27:30] there to really help with that. Nowadays, I'm pretty sure you could sit most of these players

[13:27:35] down now and they'll be able to tell you exactly how the flow of this fight goes without

[13:27:38] really needing timeers. You know what I mean?

[13:27:40] Yeah, it's all... In fact, I think Blizzard is on a tremendous job with just utilizing

[13:27:44] the energy bar properly.

[13:27:45] That's true as well, yeah.

[13:27:47] Yeah, the energy bar has been something that most people didn't pay attention to for years because you had boss mods and it was honestly not that relevant

[13:27:53] These days the energy bar is super relevant. Well, energy's full. We're going to be in submission

[13:27:57] You don't need a you can see it filling you can predict it

[13:27:59] You can call it as a raid leader if someone's not noticing is like, okay

[13:28:02] We're going to be in submission now. We can see it happening. This is helpful with the damage points

[13:28:06] You know exactly when I got a drop the orbs

[13:28:08] So it's a little reminder of like a you should be pretty spread here

[13:28:11] Because so people don't have three orbs still on top of each other

[13:28:14] Do you see how they quickly run back to the left by the way to drop it off so people can go pick up a little bit quicker?

[13:28:19] I think it's really cute. It's something that we were talking about, right?

[13:28:24] Do you like that?

[13:28:26] You've just got knocked back into another player as well. I think that's the other thing.

[13:28:29] It does happen. It does happen.

[13:28:32] They seem to be going for a little bit of a rough patch here.

[13:28:36] They're just going to send it now. They're looking to, now they want phase 2 prog, if they have a little scuffer in phase 1,

[13:28:41] it's not worth really going forward. What are you going to learn?

[13:28:44] We want to get to we want clean phase two is the next stop

[13:28:46] So they've been going for like like an hour after lunch

[13:28:49] Yeah, you know we go for an hour after lunch phase one is relatively solved again with the new technique phase two is getting cleaner

[13:28:56] I sort of really know what they're doing with their webs. I don't like it. You don't like it

[13:29:00] It looks very cool me. It does scare me. So I hope they could become cleaner and they're scary

[13:29:06] Lucy we'll see how it all pays off because yeah

[13:29:09] The fact that you're kind of going around the other team that's getting dragged through the middle, all it takes is one person to be our position.

[13:29:15] You have so many chances of a very, very important person dying.

[13:29:18] I think that once you're dead on the ground, you can't kill more people.

[13:29:21] So chances are it will only kill one person.

[13:29:22] No, you're not one-minds.

[13:29:23] Yeah, we checked that.

[13:29:25] So, you know, it shouldn't necessarily be the end of the world if someone does die there,

[13:29:29] but it feels like maybe there might be a slightly cleaner strap available.

[13:29:32] We'll see.

[13:29:32] Well, you've always erred on the side of caution because you don't trust us to not murder ourselves horribly.

[13:29:36] True.

[13:29:36] Yeah, it's because I know how I play.

[13:29:38] I don't trust me.

[13:29:40] You seem to trust what's playing.

[13:29:42] Oh, what about this really risky strat that might save 10 seconds?

[13:29:45] Nope.

[13:29:46] Absolutely not.

[13:29:48] I'm not just you guys to open it.

[13:29:49] Canobines.

[13:29:50] Frankly, no.

[13:29:51] Well, we can actually go and practice that if you want, Mike,

[13:29:53] because it seems like they have just popped a five-minute break time,

[13:29:56] and instead of us sitting here and chatting our way through it,

[13:29:59] I think instead we should take our break at the same time

[13:30:02] that those guys do,

[13:30:03] maybe have a little bit of a listen in a wave if anyone is still about.

[13:30:05] about so we are always here for every part of mythic prog to walk you through it so we'll be back in a sec don't go anywhere you're back in a sec

[13:30:11] Something certainly is afoot here as they seem to be struggling still with this weapon pulling sometimes they weren't

[13:42:14] struggling with yesterday so a changing strategy a little bit of adjustment needed as we are losing players where we weren't previously

[13:42:20] But welcome back to the race to the world first in the narrow bar palace

[13:42:23] We are working on the penultimate boss. I'm Alex from faffle cv joined with a wonderful preach. Hello

[13:42:28] Um, yeah interesting stuff. Yeah changing things

[13:42:32] that we don't know why yet. This is definitely, analyzing it, this is a whole play to be like

[13:42:40] this is going to pay off for us in a bit we haven't seen yet.

[13:42:44] Do you know what I mean? They're implementing changes to make sure that this works out really

[13:42:51] well for them in a little while and they're learning it now rather than they don't need

[13:42:55] to go to the end to figure anything out. They saw the end day one, like you know

[13:42:58] I mean they even got to phase three with the all 20 sort of functional in day one

[13:43:04] But it wasn't efficient or anything like that. It's not a kill kill strategy or anything on those lines

[13:43:09] So now we're seeing them implementing these changes. So it's like get it right now

[13:43:12] I tell you what is interesting though. They seem to have made some sort of week or they were just talking about it

[13:43:16] Which is I actually think it might be a little bit bait which we call it can be you can over a line on them

[13:43:21] Which is like oh you got grips you go to the right

[13:43:23] Now our assumption is it should be telling the partner to go to the left so that they snap

[13:43:28] as quickly as possible so those webs do ridiculous damage like they really really hurt you want them out of there but it didn't work then

[13:43:35] It didn't look like it. Oh whether it's over, but it might also be a week or it's just saying on this dragon

[13:43:39] You go to the right so that the yeah

[13:43:41] It's more just especially because you're looking at the boss one teams on one side one teams on the other if the weaker

[13:43:47] It tells both group

[13:43:49] Oh, it's Sally beans. Oh, we've been are we being infected by the book those lips are bad. It's a Furby. Oh

[13:43:58] I thought it was Jinx from Pokemon

[13:44:00] No, no it's a Furby dude

[13:44:02] I thought it was Jinx

[13:44:04] There is a little bit of furby

[13:44:06] I'm not a Furby kind of sir unfortunately

[13:44:08] I recently, for unknown reasons

[13:44:10] after last time I was on

[13:44:12] looked up Furbys

[13:44:14] there's a new type of Furby

[13:44:16] looks nothing like the old Furby

[13:44:18] Wait, Furby Mark 2?

[13:44:20] I was talking to Chris about it

[13:44:22] he used the term

[13:44:24] oh this is a Zuma Furby

[13:44:26] And I was like, yeah, exactly.

[13:44:28] It is a lot of generation.

[13:44:30] We live in that zoom.

[13:44:31] I don't I don't like it.

[13:44:32] Didn't like it at all.

[13:44:33] And I didn't like that.

[13:44:34] But I was very distracting from our interesting point.

[13:44:36] We were about to make about a week or so.

[13:44:38] I don't do that production.

[13:44:39] No, I actually do keep that going.

[13:44:42] It's a test.

[13:44:43] This is the feet.

[13:44:43] That's good.

[13:44:44] That is true.

[13:44:45] Got a zalateth on the screen with no toes.

[13:44:46] That'll be for me.

[13:44:47] That is that is a rare proc.

[13:44:52] So there is.

[13:44:54] Yeah, it could very well be because both groups

[13:44:56] looking at the boss from opposite angles. If you're saying to both groups go right once

[13:45:00] you're gripped in, you aren't actually going to pull away from each other because of the

[13:45:04] way that the world works, the way that shapes are, and perspective works. So it could certainly

[13:45:11] be so along those lines.

[13:45:12] Am I right or are you all right?

[13:45:13] Am I right?

[13:45:14] The right.

[13:45:15] Yeah, that's the question. I assume that was made the second this week or exist. It

[13:45:18] was like, wait, who's right? Are we going like, no, just go to the right.

[13:45:21] Who's right?

[13:45:22] You start here, you'll go right.

[13:45:24] Right?

[13:45:25] Yeah, and we're doing clockwise, but are we doing clockwise counterclockwise?

[13:45:29] Oh, there was a, and I like this in chat as well.

[13:45:32] Um, Kogos.

[13:45:33] Kogos, yeah, um, the idea of what clockwise and counterclockwise is.

[13:45:38] I don't think it's actually that well used in lots of countries, because when it was

[13:45:42] brought up, I just don't think it's, I don't think it's a big thing.

[13:45:44] It doesn't know which direction a clock takes.

[13:45:46] Well, the thing is, is as we're getting older, Mike, there's some people who don't

[13:45:49] know how to read a manual, sort of like old fashioned clock.

[13:45:52] Do you want to watch?

[13:45:54] I do.

[13:45:55] a watch. But most people do wear a watch, a digital one. Oh my god. There's some people

[13:46:00] who don't know how- Please tell me you guys know who-

[13:46:02] Clock watch. Please, I beg of you. Tell me you know which way a clock ticks.

[13:46:06] Do you know that there's some people that have never been in a car with wind down windows

[13:46:09] has all been electric? That makes sense to me. That makes more sense than a note.

[13:46:13] I mean clocks still exist on walls, they're not all digital.

[13:46:16] Yeah but you know, you don't have to understand every aspect of life now do you?

[13:46:20] I taught my kids very quickly how to read a clock.

[13:46:24] I was like, I am not having you being like...

[13:46:25] For some reason, when I was like six or something,

[13:46:27] I really wanted to have a watch.

[13:46:29] Really, really wanted one.

[13:46:30] I don't know why.

[13:46:30] And my dad was used to get me one

[13:46:32] until he taught me how to read it, which is right.

[13:46:35] Which is the correct thing to do.

[13:46:35] Yeah, the other one was 24 hour clock.

[13:46:39] It took me a while for my boys to sink it in,

[13:46:42] but I was not having them look at like 1600 hours

[13:46:45] and being confused.

[13:46:47] For me, strangely enough,

[13:46:49] And I don't know if other people have to do this as well.

[13:46:50] Maybe I'm just really stupid.

[13:46:52] But when I read certain like 1700s, sometimes I have like,

[13:46:56] okay, take away 12 and it's fine.

[13:46:57] You do the math.

[13:46:58] I just sometimes math it out.

[13:46:59] I'm not alive.

[13:47:00] I don't have time, I am as well.

[13:47:02] Sometimes I need to convert 24 hours

[13:47:04] into a more digestible thing of my brain.

[13:47:07] It's quick.

[13:47:08] I'm farsighted, but I am doing the translation.

[13:47:10] But in my head, I'm going.

[13:47:11] Seven to seven minus 12.

[13:47:12] That's the best.

[13:47:14] It's because I think, you know,

[13:47:16] in day-to-day life, whatever reason,

[13:47:18] It's it's all you know, I just if you say 830 it's just 830 in the evening or I don't know it's more contextual

[13:47:23] I am a bit boomer on this though because when I set my alarm at night

[13:47:26] We have we have a chatty box in the room and no chuck and film you with like how dangerous that is and things

[13:47:31] I'll live is uh, I say like you set the clock for all 500. I do say that

[13:47:36] Oh, what something like a personal assistant say, yeah, I like to hope that other ones are there. Oh Siri likes

[13:47:42] Yeah, exactly. Well, if it's my phone, it'll be like Siri set the alarm for all 500 instead

[13:47:49] of an Emma looks at me every night with disgust.

[13:47:51] Oh, really?

[13:47:52] Like, I hate you.

[13:47:53] I tell my phone when to wake me up. I just say wake me up at 7pm or wake me up at 7am.

[13:47:57] Yeah, I don't do that.

[13:47:57] I don't.

[13:47:58] It's very rare when I ask it to wake me up in the pms. That's more of like a few

[13:48:01] years ago, Alex, now that we're out of COVID, it's more of an AM wake up.

[13:48:05] Get this, right?

[13:48:06] I know this is off topic. Don't worry. They're not pulling.

[13:48:09] We had some visitors coming to see us, because we're in Germany and we've got friends here and things like that.

[13:48:13] So we was like, hey, we're going to be in Germany and we might have an evening free and it's on Saturday, so we can go for dinner.

[13:48:19] And it was, it was lovely, me, Jordan, lovely, and Ali and Nagura all went to dinner somewhere. It was a lovely night.

[13:48:26] There was another person who was supposed to be coming, great friend of mine, who lives here, and that's about 20 minutes away.

[13:48:33] Couldn't come because they had D&D that night.

[13:48:36] and their DM.

[13:48:37] Oh, well there's even more reason left.

[13:48:39] So it's like, okay, I can't come, we've got D&D that night.

[13:48:43] I'm like, oh, that's fine, that's cool, I'll see you tomorrow.

[13:48:45] It got cancelled.

[13:48:47] So it could have come anyway, but it is what it is, sometimes that happens.

[13:48:51] The reason it got cancelled is one of the players didn't wake up from the 8pm nap.

[13:48:57] PM nap?

[13:48:58] Correct.

[13:48:59] Are they like a working night or something?

[13:49:01] I've only met this person a few times who have this nap

[13:49:04] And they are a bad person.

[13:49:07] Oh.

[13:49:08] But who in the hell is having an 8pm nap time?

[13:49:14] I don't know, someone who has got a far better schedule than us might.

[13:49:17] What life do you lead to have an 8pm nap?

[13:49:20] 8pm on a Saturday.

[13:49:21] A lot of luxury.

[13:49:22] 8pm nap time.

[13:49:23] When we were looking at the pet pictures,

[13:49:26] I think everyone's life goal is to eventually be able to have the schedule of a dog or a cat

[13:49:30] and do whatever the hell they like at any point.

[13:49:32] So I think that person who's just got to that point earlier than us.

[13:49:34] I'm almost jealous, when I get home I just roll up my back and stick my belly up.

[13:49:38] Scritches!

[13:49:41] Scritches make me happy.

[13:49:44] But if you have the type of lifestyle and you have regular 8pm naps, make sure you don't

[13:49:50] have schemes for love, because those kids need that help.

[13:49:53] Is that what you do?

[13:49:54] That's a great segue.

[13:49:55] That was a segue.

[13:49:57] That's what we're here for.

[13:50:00] That was a nap time, eh?

[13:50:04] I think I'm the one who introduced the furbies into the stream, or is it that I was talking

[13:50:07] to Nogura in the morning yesterday morning?

[13:50:09] Are you a napper?

[13:50:10] Do you have naps?

[13:50:11] I don't nap.

[13:50:12] I don't nap.

[13:50:13] Well, actually, more recently, I've been able to nap, but it completely screws me in

[13:50:14] the evening.

[13:50:15] Yeah.

[13:50:16] So if I wake up at six o'clock in the morning or something, because I had something to

[13:50:18] do and I have a nap at two, it's then I'm not going to sleep until like three in

[13:50:21] the morning.

[13:50:22] Even if I only sleep for an hour, it completely screws me up.

[13:50:24] I just can't rest.

[13:50:25] I don't know.

[13:50:26] My business manager.

[13:50:27] You know who he is?

[13:50:29] Yeah, I know he naps. He naps on his lunch break

[13:50:34] 30 minutes. He also naps

[13:50:36] at Raidstart

[13:50:38] Really? He's been late for Raidstart. Do you not remember that once because he's very punctual

[13:50:43] He is. You know, and you know, he's not the one to kind of like rock up to a raid late

[13:50:47] He was 10 minutes late and I was like, oh that's strange. We all pinged him on Discord and everything

[13:50:51] He didn't respond and after 20 minutes

[13:50:52] I actually messaged you and I'm like because you know obviously you work together and I was just like dude

[13:50:58] is he okay? Is he sick? He slept for 90 minutes. I don't get it. He's like, oh, I take a nap

[13:51:06] on my lunch. The thing is, is that when he turned up, he was so apologetic and everything

[13:51:08] like that and was all like, we're just happy you're alive. We were so worried. I have that

[13:51:13] effect as well because I'm usually very, very on time. And if I'm late for anything,

[13:51:17] people are like, what the hell has gone wrong? Like what has happened? I hate being

[13:51:21] late for things. Yeah, I can't be late. Give me five minutes early. I'm good at

[13:51:24] five minutes early. I don't need to be like half an hour. Not to say that

[13:51:27] I'm not occasionally, I occasionally am late, but I do not like the experience. It's a bad time, bad time indeed.

[13:51:32] I wish I could see to my wife that that would be great.

[13:51:35] But apparently not.

[13:51:36] We all see things in different ways.

[13:51:39] Yes, I see the time for what it is.

[13:51:41] Clockwise or counterclockwise?

[13:51:43] Clockwise is traditional.

[13:51:44] See how I brought us back to the original point.

[13:51:46] As we are going to be seeing all of the players going clockwise around the boss train now.

[13:51:50] Speaking of not taking a nap.

[13:51:54] This watch cushpove.

[13:51:55] Oh, he's actually awake, absolutely.

[13:51:58] He's set up now.

[13:51:59] You can tell he's awake.

[13:52:00] Look at the damage that he's able to slam out of the beginning here.

[13:52:03] It's going to be interesting to see what the damage meters look like at the end of this

[13:52:05] fight as we've got some players in here that do an extreme amount of damage.

[13:52:10] Jesus, kush.

[13:52:11] God, you see, that is that razor's edge that I tell people about with the best DPSs

[13:52:15] in the world.

[13:52:17] Most of us would have moved out of good few seconds before that charge, just in

[13:52:20] case, right?

[13:52:21] I just want to be safe in that.

[13:52:22] Nope.

[13:52:23] Well, I think most of us wouldn't have moved out, but that's because we didn't see it.

[13:52:26] I mean, Jesse wouldn't have done.

[13:52:30] Well, I don't know, it depends if he's casting glare at the time.

[13:52:32] That's true.

[13:52:34] So far, so good on one stop this far into the phase.

[13:52:37] We had some problems in phase one.

[13:52:39] I feel like we've been doing a little bit of relearning.

[13:52:41] If you're just joining us and thinking like, oh, I could have been pulling

[13:52:43] for an hour and a half or maybe two hours.

[13:52:44] How come we're struggling?

[13:52:46] It's because we've been doing some major changes to phase one and two.

[13:52:49] Well, they are actually a series of minor changes that have led to

[13:52:53] a series of small mistakes as we're learning how to redo aspects of the face. But of course

[13:53:00] on a fight like this, one small mistake getting a little bit too close to someone or not soaking

[13:53:03] in oil when you're supposed to is going to lead to some disastrous outcomes.

[13:53:07] It still needs to go down. There it is. You can see the communication now, the unwritten

[13:53:14] unspoken communication now between Jody and Wolf Disco is absolutely on point. We remember

[13:53:17] yesterday when they first started, I think it was me and you, all right?

[13:53:20] I can't remember.

[13:53:21] The thing that happened to me in Jordan is they were tippy-toeing around like Fred Astaire.

[13:53:24] Oh yes!

[13:53:25] They were like, I'm moving over here slowly!

[13:53:27] It looked like they were playing like a little playground school game where they're like running

[13:53:32] around with a skip rope or something.

[13:53:34] But yes, we're entering the first intermission here, something that is a lot more difficult

[13:53:39] for the melee than it is for the Ranger.

[13:53:40] You're going to see them rotating around the boss as often as they can.

[13:53:44] They're placing down their moats on the ground.

[13:53:48] I knew that was going to happen.

[13:53:49] Unfortunately losing two players there, but we do have an Ankh for one and we will have a battle res available two minutes of

[13:53:55] Fort kush to start the end of the world

[13:53:57] They need to be a little bit more and three stacks there for nice memes unfortunately going down there

[13:54:03] Yeah, so easy for things to start going very perche very quickly on this fight

[13:54:06] Yeah, they can only take two of these odds we can see if they're really clustered

[13:54:10] How awkward it is to like you don't want you don't need your friends to be like trying to like

[13:54:16] Just touch the graze the edge, you know to get there too

[13:54:19] You want them to be a little spread out. You obviously want them all in a cluster in terms of they're close enough to each other

[13:54:24] But also like spread enough that you can say I'm getting these two that you'll get those two and not accidentally stumbling into a third

[13:54:31] for whatever reason, so it's just a case of being more

[13:54:34] Curtious, I guess is the word looking far to your friends here is like yeah, you want to be on your marker

[13:54:39] But you know spread out a little bit give you give you you would prefer it that way

[13:54:43] Do you know this reminds me of actually what was that boss that was made of gold in Battle of Daza or Lore?

[13:54:46] That was opulence. So opulence you would get a notification like you're going to be teleported soon. Oh, I was so

[13:54:53] On top of that like I don't care about your damage be nice to your partner. It's so much more

[13:54:58] Compared with Mikkel then interesting. Yeah, I what I call out on

[13:55:02] Discord and what actually ends up happening is not always the same thing

[13:55:06] Yeah, but they managed to do that grip relatively well. Unfortunately one player going down with narco

[13:55:11] Unfortunately falling. I'm not sure if that was due to the grip or maybe he over soaked orbs

[13:55:15] But the pull-in effect that we have been dealing with has been the major problem

[13:55:21] The major

[13:55:22] Re-progress point for echo of the last couple of hours where to Kaz

[13:55:26] Do you pronounce her to cut my cousin chungus chungus? No, this is the tool web priestess

[13:55:32] Oh, that's spider lady spider lady where the spider lady is going to grip us all in that web vortex is going to be

[13:55:37] kicking off in around three seconds. She's going to grip in one side of the

[13:55:41] raid and then the other. So you're going to be seeing here that how did he cancel

[13:55:46] that all the time? He did that with a blink. He literally blinked almost the same

[13:55:50] frame in which they were dragged in, but it was they did manage to successfully

[13:55:54] do it. They do need to soak now. They look like they have managed to get all of the

[13:55:59] orb so this is the pain point that they have been struggling with. They're

[13:56:02] going to be getting these dispels underneath the boss one by one. You

[13:56:05] You can see that Wicorah directly on telling him when to go in, which is now he's going

[13:56:08] to be getting dispelled.

[13:56:10] One by one, we've got one more dispelled to go, two more even, so here comes the final

[13:56:13] one.

[13:56:14] Bam!

[13:56:15] There is an orb, it's about to explode, ping ping ping!

[13:56:17] It's fine.

[13:56:18] It is fine because the red team had no stacks by the time that orb went off, so not the

[13:56:23] end of the world.

[13:56:24] They will all be taking a little bit of ticking damage here, but there's no other

[13:56:26] raid damage going out.

[13:56:28] A failure, yes, but unfortunately one that didn't end up having any impact.

[13:56:32] As you see the boss teleporting over there and don't think we're getting any more web vortexes as it's going to be a new

[13:56:37] Barrage getting very angry in the middle of the room as you're going to see a different strategy being used for the group here

[13:56:44] Instead of having the range players go around in their pairs as they're doing these soaks instead

[13:56:49] Everyone's just running around the boss doing a proper little rotator strats

[13:56:52] It's very scary as we're going to get another pulse of damage coming in soon where players are going to be spawning some

[13:56:58] Orbs you see them going as far left as they can to spawn it for the team coming up next

[13:57:02] and then you're going to be going in and soaking the Orbs and you just keep rotating around and around

[13:57:05] whilst dodging all of these circles on the ground.

[13:57:07] Oh, Mimeras! Mother Steel!

[13:57:09] Whoa! Attack plays!

[13:57:11] You never even blinked.

[13:57:13] Oh man, that was incredible.

[13:57:16] And still we're going on Higg into the last phase.

[13:57:19] Shields down, they did that clean.

[13:57:21] This is one of the best, obviously we're 5% behind when we need to be kill-wise

[13:57:25] and we have got players dead, but you can see the pings going out as to where

[13:57:28] the Spider Lady is going to be spawning the skin spinner.

[13:57:31] And you can see the red team going over to one side of the boss

[13:57:35] whilst the blue team stay on the other

[13:57:37] because this is how we're going to be largely doing it

[13:57:39] because now we need to be maintaining the webs afterwards

[13:57:41] because we need to use them to stop the charge of the boss

[13:57:44] so you're going to see them all heading over to one side

[13:57:45] they can't be this stacked though because all the orbs they're going to be spawning

[13:57:48] is going to be a bit rough on the lines

[13:57:49] Yeah, you don't want to make a wall, that's better

[13:57:50] You can see them making pairs

[13:57:50] Pairs is fine

[13:57:51] Pairs, that's great

[13:57:52] Yep, so here comes the grip for these guys

[13:57:54] they're going to be gripped through

[13:57:55] they're going to move out to the right-hand side

[13:57:57] maintaining their webs whilst the blue team are going to be dragged through

[13:58:00] This little red team is then going to go in and pick up the blue team's orbs whilst getting ready to deal with the upcoming charge.

[13:58:06] Here we are. Let's see if they're able to stun the boss.

[13:58:08] A little bit of a monk of steel in terms of getting the webs done, but it's going to be good.

[13:58:12] Four overkill it.

[13:58:13] One too many. Unfortunately, a few players going down as well. We will need to have actually get rid of this.

[13:58:18] That's crazy.

[13:58:19] Also, they didn't manage to get a new barrage 2 be stunned directly on top of the Skeen spinner.

[13:58:23] I'm not sure if that is possible on this one.

[13:58:25] Yeah, because the Skeensters spend, uh, inspired by the end of the point, like a corner at this point.

[13:58:30] Yep.

[13:58:30] Yeah, so you have to take that stun there.

[13:58:32] The best point they're looking for is in about two overlapses, they'll have them both stun direct center.

[13:58:36] And that's where the bloodlust comes in.

[13:58:37] Oh yeah, you do so much damage, the boss is going down like 2% a second or something crazy.

[13:58:42] Yeah, so in that 10 seconds they'll burn almost 20-25% of the boss's HP, uh, and it'll just melt.

[13:58:48] It'll absolutely melt, so that is the big point they're looking for.

[13:58:51] And that was a new best pull for Echo there.

[13:58:53] Sure.

[13:58:53] Um, obviously...

[13:58:54] Crap!

[13:58:55] Yep.

[13:58:55] better please no we should be very happy about that the 42 percent 42 and uh some change um for

[13:59:02] that particular pool um is excellent we managed to get through phase two with the new web strategy a

[13:59:07] couple of people going down i still am not super keen on the new web I don't think scripes but

[13:59:12] i've learned his expressionless expressions uh he doesn't look convinced but this uh can we look

[13:59:18] at roger roger putting the headset on guys that was great trust me bro that's exactly what we

[13:59:22] You can see he is essentially talking into his, um, El Gato wave.

[13:59:28] Excellent. Trust, just trust.

[13:59:31] It works perfectly fine.

[13:59:32] Yeah, they'll be working out exactly what went wrong in that last phase.

[13:59:35] That last phase, it feels like once you've got the system in place, it's a repeatable one.

[13:59:39] Rather than having like eight different systems for a very long and complicated phase,

[13:59:42] it's, how do we do the webs?

[13:59:43] If you can do with the web grip ins and able to soak all of those things,

[13:59:47] it feels very repeatable with small variations.

[13:59:49] variations so

[13:59:51] It is one of those fights if we can consistently get into the last phase things will start to click the boss health will start to get

[13:59:57] Chunked down incredibly quickly

[13:59:58] So do make sure you stick around for that as echo are working on the penultimate boss here

[14:00:02] And if they are able to get it down within the next couple hours, they will be incredibly happy

[14:00:07] As it will allow them to get that little bit of information on at the last boss of this tier

[14:00:12] That's what they want to have before they go to bed and they'll be going to bed early

[14:00:15] I think they're going to try and stick to that 8pm or 2200 hours.

[14:00:20] Yeah, it's actually totally 2pm here in Cologne, which means they've got about 6 hours left.

[14:00:26] So ideally they did hope to... I mean the goal is to have this done before dinner,

[14:00:31] so they can have dinner and then spend the evening on Ansarek.

[14:00:35] That is the game plan of Echo here. It's not actually... I think they might kill it before that.

[14:00:39] I'm not memeing like hoping that their progress is going forward quite quickly.

[14:00:43] And as we saw with Nexus Princess is once they get going, they'll just cut off, kill it and it'll be done

[14:00:51] So I'm thinking we're not too far away from a kill not like in the next ten minutes or anything like that

[14:00:56] But certainly not going into the night. I don't think that's going to be the case for Echo

[14:00:59] I saw here looking at how they've been progressive. I still we've seen phase one is almost

[14:01:04] Getting into phase two. I should say is very consistent now phase two is improving every time they're there

[14:01:09] Yes, and then it's like oh, this is the new bit like we just saw that in phase

[14:01:12] You know with in phase three with the they did this second intermission perfectly. Yep, right those two pairs of W4 hand

[14:01:18] Done fine phase three. We've not seen it too many times. Okay. I get it fine and everything here is

[14:01:24] Cyclical it's repeatable. Yeah, so there's a couple of really nasty overlaps

[14:01:28] They have to deal with that was one of them which led to a lot of player deaths

[14:01:31] But once they've seen it a couple of times, it's gonna be the same every time. Oh, that'd be pretty fine

[14:01:36] Yeah, I think yeah, you're right in terms of the way that the prog should flow

[14:01:39] So that consistency at this point you really need to make sure that you can get to the prog point over and over again

[14:01:45] you want to make it so that if we're wiping in phase one that that is a

[14:01:49] Sort of an exception rather than the expectation

[14:01:52] Because otherwise, you know you get into phase two and you're oh crap

[14:01:55] This could be a pool where every face two should be like oh, no

[14:01:58] This is how we normally play and then eventually phase two gets into that incredibly clean points

[14:02:02] So then every time you get into phase three. It's like yeah, okay, cool

[14:02:04] This is just how we see this.

[14:02:06] Exactly.

[14:02:07] Yeah, I want to get to that phase three.

[14:02:08] And thankfully, the boss doesn't change that much.

[14:02:11] It's more a case of like, and that's probably what they're

[14:02:13] watching now is like, look, this is that overlap.

[14:02:15] Let's go over it again.

[14:02:16] This is what you should do.

[14:02:18] This is what you shouldn't do.

[14:02:19] And you can tell these moments when they all

[14:02:20] turn to the screens like, let's just go over this again.

[14:02:22] So when we get there, Echo never

[14:02:24] a fan of like not knowing what they should do

[14:02:26] before they get there, although they do stagger

[14:02:28] that information a little bit.

[14:02:29] And the thing is with what they might be doing as well

[14:02:31] is that someone died in a way that

[14:02:33] might be a little bit unique or in a way that like so it can be a learning opportunity like something one thing that you can be

[14:02:40] Roger obviously there all the time

[14:02:42] But one thing you can do as a player in your own rates is not learn from just your own mistakes

[14:02:48] That be have enough raid awareness to understand how other people screwed up because then if you know are only I did this

[14:02:54] If only I was like slightly more to the left hand side of the boss for that grip then it would have been fine

[14:02:58] That means that you're not gonna make that same mistake because you've learned from them

[14:03:01] And that's something that they're doing now

[14:03:02] They're definitely using their review tool in order to make sure that everyone can see

[14:03:06] This is how this person died not as a way of like calling them out

[14:03:09] But like this is a very easy way to die if we're not doing this strap properly

[14:03:12] Let's make a small change to it or let's set this as a new rule that we kind of overlooked otherwise

[14:03:17] This is you can't do this anymore

[14:03:19] You have to do it this way and hopefully that just increases the consistency, which is what we're after here on the last

[14:03:25] Well, that's not my boss which what do you think Paul count wise actually because we're on one two three pulls now very cool

[14:03:31] do we think that we're looking at 170 for liquid we're gonna be in the same

[14:03:38] sort of realm so I don't think there's there's much that there's a weird fight

[14:03:44] right in general everything kind of makes sense of how you would counter the

[14:03:47] orb mechanic of touching each other there's there's a couple of choices but

[14:03:51] realistically the way the fight works is like okay we're gonna drag blue so

[14:03:55] they need to be boy you can get that bit all that needs to be worked on

[14:03:58] which I think is actually gonna take both girls a similar amount even though

[14:04:01] strategy is kind of set in stone is the little bits because that's not something that you just

[14:04:06] take from the other guilds it depends on your players and we can already see that with Echo

[14:04:09] strategy is they're not using the same classes to do the same things they're doing different things

[14:04:14] so it's going to be like okay this is how we're going to do it we're going to do it this way

[14:04:18] we can see they change their mid strat to be a bit more uptime heavy so it's got a bit more

[14:04:22] damage because it's Echo and they're always looking for more damage every single time

[14:04:26] so it's these little minutiae bits they're going through to make sure everybody knows

[14:04:29] something exactly what's going on that suits them. Taylor Taylor the overall you know the

[14:04:34] over encompassing strategy to suit them a little bit which is what they're doing now and spot finding

[14:04:39] the little flaws that all the other guilds Liquid has dealt with they ran into it this is how they

[14:04:45] solved it so we're going to solve it and then go on to the next one again it's about a thousand

[14:04:49] tiny cuts this fight. Someone runs like the wrong way okay I see what he's saying and I know

[14:04:56] when I was listening to Liquid earlier there's like I'm just slightly too slow

[14:05:00] compared to some of the other guys like my character is just a little bit slow so

[14:05:04] I can't deal with it like in way the strategy is overall so it's like okay

[14:05:07] do we need to rescue you do you want to grip there and we saw a grip come out

[14:05:11] rice and did a really great grip during that phase two intermission next to

[14:05:14] the seas friends struggling like grip him out he's a bit slow than

[14:05:17] else because it's like oh we need to get from a to b around the boss in

[14:05:21] intermission right but I mean you know I my demons I can get there in one

[14:05:25] second whereas I'm also casting a heal and doing X and Y and Z, I can't quite go there

[14:05:29] in that time. It's risky for me, it's not risky for you.

[14:05:32] Okay, let's solve that and let's see what the issue is and is there a way we can do

[14:05:36] that. We've still seen some of the Orbs be far too clustered, caught Cush out, right?

[14:05:40] It's not like Cush wants to soak anything, it's a roke. If he could get away with

[14:05:46] bare minimum, he would all of like every step of the way. But you know, he's

[14:05:50] moving into his Orbs and it's like, oh there's three here, great.

[14:05:53] There's no Cloak of Shadows saving you from that, not at all. These are the other ways you would have an entire comp of

[14:06:00] just nothing but rogues and hunters just running around soaking all of the orbs at once, like the olden days.

[14:06:07] Stunned on the owl. Yep.

[14:06:08] I'm a bit disappointed in this boss.

[14:06:10] Oh, we don't even have a hunter in doing.

[14:06:12] No, soul has

[14:06:15] and Shelf, F,

[14:06:17] they're replaced by the power bin himself.

[14:06:19] boomkin dude everyone laughed me was like the hundred percent we're having a

[14:06:23] boomkin in on every thought like that's laugh everyone laughed the next joke of

[14:06:28] course is mini is a hundred percent convinced he's not seeing answer it well

[14:06:33] the thing is if enhance is good maybe it would be worth bringing him in did enhance

[14:06:38] but if we're using my DK on answer it then that fight is way different than we

[14:06:42] think there is no way I'd keep a breath up time on that fight yeah I know

[14:06:46] He didn't he didn't seem super impressed but the thing is it'll be such a shame not to have many in he's really like

[14:06:51] Just being an entire powerhouse this team not that he hasn't been in previous tears, obviously

[14:06:55] But this year coming in and doing a big slam at down on every single important fight coming in on his enhancement

[14:07:02] Charmin beating clicks on the kill

[14:07:06] Incredible, you know

[14:07:08] Clicks is not an easy player to beat on the meters. I tell you that one of the youngest pickups that echo got a long time ago

[14:07:14] Obviously farmer limit player

[14:07:16] When I first met him actually, I met him at BlizzCon and he was like,

[14:07:21] Hi, I'm me, I play Limit and you know, he was at the party where the players were

[14:07:25] chit-chatting with him, he's too young to drink, he was really cute.

[14:07:28] He was walking around the party and I was like, no, I'm not allowed to be here.

[14:07:33] I was like, it's a private party, you're allowed in here, and he was like,

[14:07:35] I'm not drinking, I'm gonna be a mess, like it's not happening.

[14:07:37] And then of course, Roger walked over with like eight beers in his hands, like,

[14:07:42] Weee!

[14:07:43] Bloor's gone!

[14:07:44] Bloor's gone, Bloor's gone!

[14:07:47] Makora Batsu, yeah, I didn't really dawn on me till now, but considering what we've had

[14:07:52] with Brutwister, and then Kaveza, and then the lore behind this boss, the legacy of

[14:07:59] this boss from both Echo and Liquid, from the testing, it's like, bro, this thing

[14:08:03] is nuts!

[14:08:04] Super crazy.

[14:08:05] Yeah, this is full crazy.

[14:08:06] And then we go here, it's like, actually, it's not that bad.

[14:08:09] No!

[14:08:10] It's kind of okay.

[14:08:11] Turned out.

[14:08:12] fight how do we move the people around yeah it's it's pure if this was an RTS

[14:08:17] you'd have a much nicer time around in little groups we need more roundabouts

[14:08:22] do need more roundabouts if fight would be solved with roundabouts not junctions

[14:08:26] excessive amounts of roundabouts and good traffic lighting in a fairness they

[14:08:30] lanes they are doing roundabout strategy the bosses are the roundabout

[14:08:35] and you can only go around in a certain direction so it is very similar to

[14:08:40] that in many ways but they are of course going into another pool right now

[14:08:45] hopefully the problems that they were able to discover have been thoroughly

[14:08:49] talked about and sorted as we're going to be having the first of the melee

[14:08:54] running around one another in those groups making sure they're soaking each

[14:08:57] other's moats just a very very quick recap adds to the main new mechanic is

[14:09:01] of course that every single player in the raid is either red team or blue

[14:09:04] team and each time you take damage from specific abilities you'll be

[14:09:07] either well an orb of your color the enemy team or the you know so the red

[14:09:11] team they spawn red orbs blue people need to come and soak those orbs otherwise

[14:09:14] bad things happen the problem is is that red players and blue players can't get

[14:09:18] within three yards of each other you can see the little circle around Wolf

[14:09:21] Disco right now if anyone enters that red circle there isn't a red player

[14:09:24] both of those people will die both Wolf Disco and whoever he runs into so

[14:09:29] there's a lot of trying to keep the group separate that's why you see

[14:09:32] them having so many struggles because mechanically if you took away the

[14:09:37] move the mechanic low I know but if you took away that main red team blue team

[14:09:40] this fight is incredibly similar to how it is on heroic difficulty you have

[14:09:45] things where you need to use like three webs in order to interrupt the charge

[14:09:48] rather than just the two 5 debuffs in order to interrupt the entropic entropy

[14:09:53] doom cataclysm cast whatever it is in phase two you have to use five debuffs

[14:09:57] rather than just the three so there's things like that small increases but

[14:10:01] largely speaking it's this red team blue team thing going on

[14:10:04] fortunately a couple of players dying at the beginning here but they are

[14:10:06] going to continue pushing up through. It's only being Revers, as you can see those three

[14:10:10] tethers being dragged across. Touchy tether I believe. Yeah, it moves to the side.

[14:10:13] No, not Mastin and Revers. Just a little touchy touch. Not welcome to either player to have

[14:10:18] that happen. It's instant death if you do touch some of the opposite colour.

[14:10:21] Yeah. But these big stands, don't worry about the damage too much. I can tell you

[14:10:25] now, when they pop that lust, that 40% is going to get real small, real quick.

[14:10:30] Yeah. As long as they've got a few players live there, because both of them are entangled

[14:10:35] and stunned at the exact same time giving a hundred percent damage bonus on both and during cleave

[14:10:40] so is they're going to time their bloodlust to go along with that and they're going to be able

[14:10:45] to do double damage to both of them while cleaving both of them at the exact same time it's going

[14:10:49] to be in the dead center and that HP is just going to go pew. Oh yeah just disappear and

[14:10:54] there will be a race against time because it is the final overlap of mechanics before the

[14:10:58] the enrage is imminent. So they'll be looking to have that boss in sub 5% at least in order

[14:11:05] to finish it off after that moment. So that's what we're looking to see. But right now we

[14:11:09] haven't seen them get to that point. They've got a little bit of positioning work to do

[14:11:13] until they get there. Diddly-dallying allowed to get these orbs there. They got a bit bit

[14:11:17] bit... Yeah, lost two more players unfortunately. I think a Jinji and Velo did indeed have

[14:11:21] a little bit of a hug. A forbidden hug. Shouldn't do, though. That should be Wolf Fist

[14:11:25] Let's go on Jinji over in that area.

[14:11:27] I'm not entirely too sure how those two collided.

[14:11:28] I assume it was a collision,

[14:11:29] because they both died at the same time

[14:11:30] and they're in opposite teams.

[14:11:32] But with group one-

[14:11:33] I think an odd one, as well,

[14:11:34] because they went into four stacks.

[14:11:35] Ah, maybe.

[14:11:36] Yeah.

[14:11:37] Oh, no, that's the vulnerability sex from the boss.

[14:11:38] That's normal.

[14:11:39] Okay.

[14:11:40] Yeah, but I think,

[14:11:41] because group one or two,

[14:11:42] they're in the blue team, group three and four,

[14:11:43] they're in the red team.

[14:11:44] So if you ever see a death happening simultaneously

[14:11:47] in, like, if you split the red team down the middle,

[14:11:49] then you can normally tell

[14:11:49] that it's indeed a collision that has caused that.

[14:11:53] Right, yeah.

[14:11:53] You can see how-

[14:11:54] Oh, there I do split, see?

[14:11:56] Ehhhhh, they're trying to.

[14:11:58] Hahaha.

[14:11:59] It does seem that Red Team is always trying to go red, but it doesn't always seem to be

[14:12:03] that the players are always following that.

[14:12:05] There's a theory that's happening.

[14:12:07] There's a theory.

[14:12:10] It's always interesting to see when you see both the Reds just diver off in different

[14:12:16] paths, so they're trying to do some sort of split that may...

[14:12:19] I wonder if it's kind of a YOLO play, like, in theory I'll work for some of you.

[14:12:23] Yeah, you don't need to do YOLO on that, that's the thing.

[14:12:26] Yeah, I'd rather lose damage and be consistent, rather than do YOLO, because right now we haven't even got to the point where we want to try and optimize damage.

[14:12:34] Obviously, you want to start using reasonable strategies from the beginning, you're not going to come in here with 18 healers as an example, right? There's like no point.

[14:12:40] But you don't want to start using strats to have a 50% win rate, so to speak, you know, success rate, especially when it happens so often.

[14:12:49] I'm not entirely too sure because there is a little bit of a thing going on with the way that the blue team and the red team are dealing with their webs.

[14:12:57] It's not too clear.

[14:13:00] I think it might just be phase three, so you just kind of ignore it on the first one.

[14:13:05] Maybe, yeah, but then again you can make the weak core load in the...

[14:13:08] We'll see. Well, we'll send a message over, so you're weak core, because it could also be classic, your weak core is full junk.

[14:13:13] Yeah, that could be.

[14:13:14] Ignore the weak core for now guys, we're working on it.

[14:13:17] It's happened so many times where it's like, actually it's just full junk.

[14:13:20] We find that afterwards, it's like, yeah, don't worry about it.

[14:13:23] Dude, that thing never worked and we're sat here like, how does the weak aura work?

[14:13:26] It just doesn't, it really doesn't.

[14:13:28] So we'll see if they can get that done.

[14:13:31] But yeah, the red team and the blue team definitely have different strategies

[14:13:33] in terms of how they do their positioning after the web grip in.

[14:13:36] It seems like whatever caused the issue on that was not long enough

[14:13:39] for them to really get down to the very bottom of it.

[14:13:43] The chances are it was just, dude, I trolled, I made a mistake.

[14:13:45] Or oh, okay slightly wrong positioning saying super easy to clear up and make work

[14:13:52] So yeah, it's good. How important is you guys when you do make a mistake in raiding?

[14:13:57] Please say yes, because it's so much quicker

[14:14:00] Than having to dig through the logs or not know what the problem is. Is it an actual bigger issue?

[14:14:05] We need to solve there's nothing worse than like yeah, I made whoops everybody makes a whoops it happens

[14:14:11] It's fine. Just say yeah, I made a whoops. I don't know what I did. Okay, just don't say that during the pool

[14:14:20] Guys you'll never guess what happened to me, right? So I stood with this guy

[14:14:23] It's just like yep, and we're dealing with the new D-Buff and two one is like yes

[14:14:27] So let me tell you how that happened. Oh, man. No, no goes down there. I think obviously if he's solo dying

[14:14:32] He he took one too many ops is what happened there

[14:14:35] So chances are I know that he fell rushed through what he thought was two and it was actually three

[14:14:40] which is what can happen there. So the combat res is used just again. That's a whoops. Yeah, I'd look like to

[14:14:47] Yeah, the idea is that they shouldn't be stacked in such a fashion actually so

[14:14:51] It's that would be something that's like we need to improve on that

[14:14:54] But that's as simple as make sure that we're spreading properly by the way like a people forgetting

[14:14:58] But then if someone they might speak up rightfully so if we actually struggling to spread out the orbs

[14:15:03] That's the time where you say it easily enough said oh, yeah to spread out more

[14:15:07] But it's like well we got too many melee in this area. How exactly sort this you might want to just quickly take a moment to make sure you

[14:15:12] Assign, you know these little pairs so you only ever have groups of two orbs at any given time

[14:15:17] So that you don't have your poor demon hunter who's desperately trying to jump around that you get anything done

[14:15:21] Oh, I like that if you pop an immunity the fixate does change target on the scarabs

[14:15:25] Oh cute

[14:15:26] I didn't know that scenario style where you don't feel pop immunities and they just send the fame death

[14:15:31] Dude just send the webs of the brambles

[14:15:36] Just send the brambles that somebody else is supposed to like nearby like dude

[14:15:41] Losing a ton of players once again, I think we're calling a white pair. Yeah, yeah, yeah

[14:15:44] Standing the stuff touch each other do whatever you want. Yeah, give it's time to hug

[14:15:47] You've got a hug out on the ball as we're going to be calling it as unfortunately these the these sort of pools will happen

[14:15:54] Yep, and we do want to obviously keep them to a minimum, but they will occasionally happen nothing to be done. Just die

[14:15:59] Yeah

[14:16:01] And all fun as if they if they're yapping

[14:16:03] Yeah, true if they're in mid-speech, you know, it doesn't matter when the boss dies. Yeah, I suppose not. I just

[14:16:10] efficiency issue

[14:16:12] people if people

[14:16:26] You have issues Mike, it's fine. So you go on

[14:16:29] I'm talking to you anymore, I'm talking to you inefficient.

[14:16:32] Oh mate, this is what I'm saying.

[14:16:34] Oh mate.

[14:16:35] I can't get my pint out.

[14:16:36] Aw.

[14:16:37] I've been trying for an hour.

[14:16:38] I'm just too inefficient.

[14:16:39] Ugh.

[14:16:40] Damn.

[14:16:41] I'm just too dumb.

[14:16:42] Go away, you full cow.

[14:16:43] Leave me alone.

[14:16:44] Oh!

[14:16:45] Yeah, it's production.

[14:16:46] Oh.

[14:16:47] The beans viewers.

[14:16:48] See that's not an inefficiency issue is it?

[14:16:49] Can we move them so they're showering down on Mike?

[14:16:50] Yeah

[14:16:52] Oh the beans viewers see that's not an efficiency issue is it can we move them to the showering down on Mike I?

[14:16:59] Think that'll be good Mike could take a little bean shower a

[14:17:03] Power make you so 3k

[14:17:10] Fall from the heavens make it happen

[14:17:13] Well, there's a couple of hours left before echo do you go to get there we go perfect

[14:17:17] trying to do my job you know what I mean that this is your job yeah a little

[14:17:21] bit oh good more isolated showers over my face right now big sad this is for you

[14:17:28] I like how speak with all these beans in my mouth all right oh in which case yeah

[14:17:32] we've got a couple more hours until we are gonna be jumping into our food

[14:17:39] break yeah that before that ideally or at least in a position where they are

[14:17:43] consistently getting further in seems like right now obviously it's just one or

[14:17:48] two outstanding issues that are causing us to get.

[14:17:53] Is this the fix to the left right week or could be.

[14:18:00] Could be.

[14:18:01] Yeah, I love that.

[14:18:02] Is this the fix to the left right week or I swear to God if they fix this and it just

[14:18:05] goes perfectly smoothly from now I am I want everything I said about week or stricken

[14:18:09] from the record because it's totally unnecessary as well. Oh they're on a breaky break. I see.

[14:18:16] They're taking five minutes as they're implementing the weak core. Fair play fair play.

[14:18:20] It is what it is. Cool. We'll grab a coffee. Yeah let's go grab a tea. We'll grab a coffee.

[14:18:24] All right we'll be back in a minute. We're not going to miss it because they're going to make

[14:18:27] massive leaps in progress and I know you don't want to miss it either so we'll time our little

[14:18:31] two minutes with them so we'll have a little listening wave and we'll be right back guys in a bit.

[14:18:35] Fall, Culpium Gamber going on here at the race to the first with Mr Justway.

[14:29:55] We just have a chat with him there and I've got a Fiverr.

[14:29:58] He reckons this is dead in an hour, I think two.

[14:30:02] I think never.

[14:30:03] Is she not joining in the Gamber?

[14:30:05] No, I think the boss, I think it's, I don't know, I think closer to like seven.

[14:30:13] I think it's gonna be post dinner.

[14:30:14] Oh, you think so?

[14:30:15] I think it's gonna be post dinner.

[14:30:16] Do you think you're underestimating the little minutiae they're gonna have to

[14:30:17] do in phase three?

[14:30:18] I honestly do, I think the hardest thing about this entire fight is the web pulling.

[14:30:23] Once you've got the basics of how you want to do the movement system, I feel that's

[14:30:27] strategy-wise the hardest thing for everyone to do correctly, considering it's different

[14:30:31] every single time, based on where the boss is, based on whether or not you're gripped

[14:30:34] in, who you attend the to, XYZ.

[14:30:37] That's the hard part, that's the thing they're still struggling with, and although

[14:30:40] we're seeing glimmers of hope in terms of the Prague, sometimes it's going a little

[14:30:44] bit better each time, we're still kind of hitting a wall pretty hard sometimes,

[14:30:48] Yeah, I'm a little worried in that sort of sense. That's my main concern. Don't get me wrong. I could be wrong on it

[14:30:53] I this is more of a vibe check rather than a definite

[14:30:56] No, there's got hundreds of hours left, you know, they do if it clicks then maybe, you know, that's it

[14:31:00] We're gonna push on through a lot of times who we still in front of liquid in terms of time

[14:31:05] They can spend an answer I can all sorts of things obviously the longer they spend here the less time they have but they still have like

[14:31:11] Seven hours if they want to of raiding to do before they and that's to reach their ideal bedtime

[14:31:17] That's that's what they would look for is something on those lines. So not too worried at the moment

[14:31:23] But maybe later on we're like

[14:31:26] Well, I've not been there not be to do run this their progress has got more and more consistent every single pool pretty much

[14:31:32] They've had the odd one or two that's scuffed in phase one. Yeah, but other than that they've been like, okay

[14:31:36] Now we're going to phase two consistently now. We've seen phase three many times in the last hour

[14:31:39] Yeah, don't get me wrong. The players are still feeling good

[14:31:41] I don't think they are feeling like a crazy amount of pressure either they know it does they want to get it down

[14:31:46] But it's not like oh we're behind in terms of the rate of our progression. They're they're definitely on pace

[14:31:51] They should be feeling comfortable and they certainly are not seeing a bunch of like agitation or I'm concerned

[14:31:56] They're chilling they're full ready to keep sending it. They're enjoying the boss quite a lot of them as well

[14:32:01] Which is good to hear

[14:32:02] So let's see how it all pans out. This feels like a while raid boss

[14:32:06] I know it sounds weird, but it doesn't feel like you live

[14:32:09] It doesn't feel like you're living with the butchers knives landing over your throat every second

[14:32:15] There's some get out of jail free.

[14:32:17] There's a bit more leniency.

[14:32:18] You know, you've got your combat resists

[14:32:20] that you can, you know, use crazy things like that.

[14:32:23] That they've not been used to for the last couple of days

[14:32:25] of Prague, you know, all these things

[14:32:27] like I can actually immune things.

[14:32:28] Yay, I don't get executed.

[14:32:30] The second my HP drops, you know,

[14:32:32] I don't need a weaker.

[14:32:33] It tells me at 50% you're about to die.

[14:32:35] Yeah.

[14:32:36] Nothing like that is happening on this one.

[14:32:38] It's a little bit of more of teamwork

[14:32:39] because you can see here with these webs

[14:32:40] perfectly demonstrating that where they've got this

[14:32:43] wonderful little partnership going on with their friends. It looks so good.

[14:32:46] When this fight is done correctly, it's just this beautiful

[14:32:50] choreographed dance that it's like everything looks so deliberate and so well refined.

[14:32:55] It's just as soon as that goes wrong, you can really see it whenever a thing

[14:32:58] like you just have one or two orbs out of place or one or two missed orbs.

[14:33:02] The monk of steer comes in real, real quick.

[14:33:04] You have to do some crazy stuff in order to get everything back to control.

[14:33:07] It's actually quite nice because this is a fight where you can, as you say, is

[14:33:10] recoverable and you can even have those hero plays.

[14:33:12] If you know that orbs gonna go off and the majority of your team has two stacks

[14:33:15] You charging into it and taking it is actually the correct thing because I thought you are today

[14:33:19] Yeah, it's like throwing yourself on the grenade

[14:33:21] There's just so a cushion do nice see the baits here to get that frontal away from the rest of them to keep that up time

[14:33:26] I'm actually quite a lot of this fight that you can control

[14:33:30] To an extent in order to make life easier, which is exactly how blizzards designed it especially considering the

[14:33:36] Difficulty of movement that's involved here

[14:33:38] You have to be able to be able to do those things so there's those three players

[14:33:42] I guess so Fraggo I think Fraggo and Ravis touched each other

[14:33:45] Can X maybe dissolved one too many orbs there may have so much else. They'll kill you there

[14:33:50] There might be something incorrect going on. I believe that Fraggo is one of our

[14:33:54] web partner people so he might have been doing something with the tether in a way that was slightly delayed and

[14:33:59] People got a little bit lost in the source, but hey, it is what it is

[14:34:02] These mistakes happen you can see him playing the auger voker something that Echo is certainly

[14:34:07] prefered more strongly than Liquid have. Liquid are much more on the dev lines

[14:34:12] funnily enough. And Drago is a great dev evoker. He is as well yeah. He plays a fantastic dev evoker.

[14:34:17] He's doing astronomical damage on some of the other fights. He's a fantastic

[14:34:20] everything player. One of those guys, he's put him on everything. He's obviously been

[14:34:24] around in the scene for a long old time. An OG Paragon player for anyone who

[14:34:28] is unaware. Drago has been around for a long time. He played Overwatch

[14:34:32] professionally for a while and then joined Echo eventually with the...

[14:34:37] There's a lot of game pros, like other game pros, I should say, like actual pros you

[14:34:42] have joined. Like, Hopeful was telling us of his League of Legends history, he was in

[14:34:47] training camps in Korea. That's something that came out weird. League of Legends camps

[14:34:51] in Korea, still saying a bit wrong with them. He played League of Legends in Korea

[14:34:58] once. There we go. Production. What? Well, you're a PC in Korea once. Doing all that before

[14:35:11] coming to World of Warcraft was actually saying how similar it is in the professional scene

[14:35:14] to be doing those kinds of things. It's like, actually, you know, the same sort of rules

[14:35:18] from the competitive professional environment just still apply here. It's just a different

[14:35:21] style of things. You know, it's a bigger team. This is more problem solving instead

[14:35:25] at a PvP where it's never evolving in adapting per game scenario with a lot of predictions

[14:35:30] and looking at historical trends of individuals.

[14:35:33] Oh, I love that.

[14:35:34] Yeah, it's nice, right?

[14:35:35] I haven't actually seen this, like you said.

[14:35:38] I haven't seen this part with the two of Oka's going around doing shenanigans, one

[14:35:41] person rescuing the other after soaking their orb.

[14:35:44] And they are soaking the orbs near melee in order to allow the melee to be saking

[14:35:47] them, because you do actually want to avoid having ranged players soak the orbs as

[14:35:50] often as possible, mainly because they're so far away from the rest of the group

[14:35:55] and they're going to be taking the damage from the Turbos, and they're not going to be necessarily very close for that sort of splash healing

[14:36:00] that is going on with a lot of our healing choices right now that makes a lot of sense. Any Orbs you can get ultimally is worth the time.

[14:36:06] You're going to see one successful stun onto our Chagi Anubarash boy.

[14:36:13] Yeah, it's really nice because every orb drop here, you can see this very clearly from Frago's POV.

[14:36:18] As I was the actual melee ball is designed like I move further out. So it'd be like cannex right cannexes and use team blue

[14:36:25] I could be a bit further out from the melee because my orb is going to be picked up by frago

[14:36:29] It was in a Volcker who can circle around the outside and pick up these widest spread ones while the melee maintain that uptime

[14:36:34] And these are all the little micro elements that make oh, I love this. Yeah, you come to me

[14:36:38] We're getting this web and then we'll go for me

[14:36:40] Just rescue each other all over the place. Yeah, I'd a Volcker power, baby

[14:36:44] That's so cool because I guess frango is choosing we are doing this web and then obviously may focus like yeah, sure no problem

[14:36:51] Dude, and now we're going this way. Yeah, I don't really give a crack

[14:36:54] You just decide everything just grip me wherever you want me to be and I'll just keep casting

[14:36:58] And I'm doing you do whatever you want to do. That's so cool

[14:37:03] That's the cool things you could do or fights like this where you are given a partner

[14:37:06] Like I was memeing on Ross yesterday for us Ludgefish shenanigans, but we were really good partners together

[14:37:10] like we had a lot of fun. We would just goof around and then we came up with like mini games

[14:37:15] within the encounter like one of us would like start shimmying a little bit more to the other one

[14:37:19] was like god damn it this way and then the other one to do the next pull all those kind of things

[14:37:24] is that's what happens when you have these little partnerships in game to mess around with a lot

[14:37:29] of encounters don't you afford that kind of friendship, genuine friendship where you can

[14:37:34] you know you're playing with your friend in a real way yes and having fun together and coming

[14:37:38] We got with these like inside jokes between each other that no one else would ever get nope

[14:37:42] And someone else might find it really annoying, but you don't as they

[14:37:46] Phase one this is where it's the most brutal amount of damage onto the race

[14:37:49] It cushions very low right now, but the healers have got through this many many times successfully

[14:37:54] And it looks like they're going to do that again

[14:37:57] That one last clip of damage there. I guess it is avoid that one as much as possible

[14:38:01] Yeah, it seems like um, they're holding that should are holding they've been holding for ages

[14:38:06] So that was one extra tick that they want to do.

[14:38:10] Yeah, that's the extra tick of damage that maybe they're not super used to.

[14:38:13] So we did lose two players, both Zazi and Revers, I think, to the damage input rather than any sort of option antigens.

[14:38:19] Do you want to explain why they're holding?

[14:38:21] Yeah, so this fight, although it is on a strict time at the time, say that the first phase is two minutes, it's always two minutes.

[14:38:28] The second phase is always two minutes, and the last phase is always three minutes.

[14:38:31] It's the intermissions where the players get to control the pace.

[14:38:34] So in theory you can just kind of chill there for a while and say, you know

[14:38:37] We want to stay in this intermission for a little bit longer to make it so that as soon as we get interface to we can pop our

[14:38:42] Call downs. It's that kind of thing

[14:38:44] We're only saving for cooldowns anyone who's played this game in the past

[14:38:47] There was a whole meta for basically an entire expansion of Shadowlands where you're sitting around waiting for your CDs

[14:38:51] It seems that it's read its ugly head one more time on this fight

[14:38:55] Hopefully not in a super detrimental way and by the time that your group gets to it

[14:38:58] You'll probably be geared so heavily that you probably don't need to do that

[14:39:01] Shadowlast do anything right?

[14:39:04] It's eventually ended

[14:39:07] Really like you think about every elephant on me

[14:39:09] God damn it spell curing stop DPS

[14:39:13] Cool down waiting everything this post looking kind of

[14:39:16] it's doing um

[14:39:21] I'm here to do a challenge trying to save that production here comes the grip

[14:39:25] Let's see what they're gonna do with it as you can see the groups are gonna be splitting away from one another as the red team

[14:39:29] also gripped in the blue team going to go and collect the red team's orbs

[14:39:32] Once that a we has come off you can see a set of debuffs going out into the group five in total as we're going to be getting them

[14:39:38] Dispelled onto the boss you can see one by one mirrors. Unfortunately going down the galorez is there

[14:39:42] So looking good in that sort of sense. That was clean. They've done it so far. Yeah, we'll call it that

[14:39:49] Wasn't perfect, but it was clean enough

[14:39:52] Big boom is still going to go off though one more to spell on penguin there we go

[14:39:56] You want to cut it as fine as possible

[14:39:58] It's extending the duration of the phase the boss will after that cast if you do it at 10 seconds each time

[14:40:05] Like as soon as it's available

[14:40:06] Then you're going to be losing out maybe eight seconds of the entire phase which you need when the DPS check is so high

[14:40:11] Well, why is the boss so low? I just about to tell you I'll have you looked at the HP of this boss. It is disgusting

[14:40:17] that's like

[14:40:18] Very very refined low. That's gross

[14:40:22] That is gross. Okay. Yeah, so you know I get excited you guys they've not done much yet

[14:40:27] It's just very good to see that

[14:40:32] We have the potential because we've had a couple of pools where it's like if you look at it and only saw those pools

[14:40:37] It might be a bit doomer you could get a bit doom and gloom about it

[14:40:40] But I'm assuming they can get through this intermission. We can get some really solid phase 3 prog

[14:40:44] There's a lot to learn in phase 3 still

[14:40:46] So, you know don't necessarily get super hyped up and you can't blame me if it goes wrong chances

[14:40:51] I will I mean, there's a really high chance. They haven't done the very vicious overlap yet

[14:40:54] The other has Yank up go down. The shield is out. He has Ankh though. They're going into his full health

[14:40:59] They also didn't slow down at all. They're getting two volumestacks throughout that entire phase

[14:41:04] Yeah, they think they did the extend phase one so they could get out of this quicker

[14:41:07] Do you think that's it because they find this intermission harder?

[14:41:10] Maybe. Well, this is the one they need to proc. They don't give a toss about phase one and two anymore. Phase three

[14:41:14] They need to practice. Yeah, so you can see what they're going to be doing here with the red team all going along the wall for these

[14:41:19] particular pull ins. So the red team are going to be

[14:41:21] eventually gripped in so will the blue team you want to have them slightly

[14:41:25] spread because you will be spawning some orbs as you do so after this air we

[14:41:29] damage comes in here comes the first vortex blue team going in first going

[14:41:32] over to the left and right the red team getting pulled through and they will

[14:41:35] then be soaking the orbs shortly over the webs they have got enough webs because

[14:41:38] it's only the red team that saved their webs every single time you're gonna

[14:41:42] see some orb collection here and then we have to deal with the first stun

[14:41:44] not sure if we're gonna be able to vote we have lost a lot of red

[14:41:47] members we might not have enough of the walls unfortunately not lost a

[14:41:50] couple too many red members there but an excellent new best pull for Echo that

[14:41:55] not necessarily because they got further in phase three it's just because of how

[14:41:58] disgusting they did in phase one and two. That was some really really nice damage

[14:42:02] and it's the damage they need in order to get out of this fight overall. Yeah a

[14:42:06] little bit of a shame that we lost too many members when with the tethers I'm

[14:42:10] not sure maybe if the red members broke or because we just had people die. I think

[14:42:13] it's not too many partnerships. Yeah I know just what it was saying in there is

[14:42:16] like, oh, the web damage isn't that bad.

[14:42:17] I'm like, it is.

[14:42:19] Like, if you've played this fight, it really hurts.

[14:42:23] If you combine it with everything else that's going on

[14:42:25] in the fight, it's like, individually, sure,

[14:42:27] it's not that bad.

[14:42:28] But when you start stacking it with the fact

[14:42:30] that you've got the Vortex,

[14:42:31] which does ridiculous damage on the raid,

[14:42:32] it's huge amount of damage that that Vortex does.

[14:42:35] It just pulses damage onto you.

[14:42:37] And then you've got the dragon,

[14:42:38] you've got everybody moving,

[14:42:39] because the healers have to run as well.

[14:42:40] And then you combine the webs on top.

[14:42:41] Once several people with the web snaps, it's a lot.

[14:42:44] It can take you over really, really quickly.

[14:42:46] And I think that was actually a position issue.

[14:42:47] It looked like the first two collided, which is the instant death,

[14:42:52] maybe went the wrong direction, things like that.

[14:42:54] So one difference, and I could be incorrect

[14:42:56] because I haven't fully analysed the very T-liquid strategy.

[14:43:00] So excuse me if I am wrong on this, there is a chance.

[14:43:03] But it does feel like with liquid strategy for the webs in Phase 3,

[14:43:07] they kind of have an order of operations where they have it so that

[14:43:11] the second gripped in team, as they run away from the boss,

[14:43:15] They soak the orbs of the first script in team.

[14:43:17] They do the two things at once.

[14:43:19] Yeah, I was in the gym at the time, so I wasn't watching too much.

[14:43:23] But if I remember right, they basically had the first team that was going in

[14:43:28] would go in and move off to the side.

[14:43:30] Yeah. And then the second team would be gripped in and run to the other orbs.

[14:43:34] And then the other team would come in a bit later to soak the orbs.

[14:43:36] Exactly. Yeah.

[14:43:37] Whereas this isn't exactly what Echo is doing.

[14:43:39] It seems like the first people who are gripped in, they're gripped in

[14:43:42] and then they do go to left and right,

[14:43:44] which is very similar to what Liquid were doing.

[14:43:46] But it seems like Echo are making it so that the red team,

[14:43:49] no matter what, are the ones that are always going to be responsible for the webs.

[14:43:53] Whereas if I'm not sure if that was always the case for Liquid, it could be.

[14:43:56] But because of that, it does feel like they're taking their time at going back

[14:44:00] and soaking the orbs afterwards, which is quite a difficult thing to do.

[14:44:03] If you can combine running away from the boss with soaking orbs at the same time,

[14:44:08] you're kind of getting, you know, you're hitting two birds with one stone.

[14:44:11] Whereas going back you have to avoid the giant pulsing eruption damage that's happening at the same time

[14:44:17] Whilst also still trying to position for the stun. It feels like that might be a little bit of a

[14:44:23] Difficult part not impossible. I'm sure that they can pull it off

[14:44:26] But if they need to put off a few times in this fight feels like that strategy is a little bit more difficult

[14:44:31] Yeah, I think it's like three times with the final one being the most difficult

[14:44:35] So the final one will not only be the combination of the donuts happening at and the charge

[14:44:40] So you'll have doughnuts into the charge the charge happens at the exact same time

[14:44:45] So what happens is both of their major abilities, right?

[14:44:47] So you've got chungus in phase one in charges cross room you stop by the webs

[14:44:50] That doesn't exist in phase two because the focus then turns on spider lady

[14:44:54] Who does the five stinging swarm debuff some people that needs to be dispelled onto the boss?

[14:44:59] You've seen that happen a few times now and the finale of phase three just for his enrage is it will do the charge and the

[14:45:04] Stinger swarm at the exact same time

[14:45:06] So what you'll have is the dispel and the webs having to happen in the very center of the room

[14:45:11] Because it's very important that you stop Chungus right on top of both the debuffed bosses

[14:45:16] Yes, and that's when they'll cleave it down

[14:45:18] So with bloodlust with the HP that they're getting this to if they can consistently maintain this DPS

[14:45:24] This boss will die in lust

[14:45:26] It's gonna be gross like if they can keep it clean the last phase is a very very difficult thing to keep clean

[14:45:33] I believe that with the kill that we've seen so far of liquid. We did have deaths as well

[14:45:37] And we went in with a very similar health percentage

[14:45:40] That's why I was kind of surprised at echo of reach that health percentage so soon

[14:45:43] Like that was our first time getting a clean phase two in what felt like ages

[14:45:47] Yeah, and then suddenly boss super low that's not a means unless that was a god pool

[14:45:51] Which occasionally does happen. It's very much more likely that we're going to be seeing

[14:45:56] Every time we get a clean phase to the boss is going to be around that 45% mark or lower potentially

[14:46:01] Which is what if I mess up for the intermission. I'm since shielding goes up and yeah

[14:46:05] If they're not they're not fully optimized yet, so to see that now is pretty incredible. It's good news

[14:46:10] Yeah, we're gonna have what what you're gonna see guys in terms of the progress is you'll see this like 38 36

[14:46:15] They'll do one more of the like spreads that we've been talking about like Alex was just explaining there

[14:46:19] And then we will get this chance to actually pop on the boss and that 38 or very quickly turns probably like 9 8

[14:46:26] Something like that they'll get very very low because people will be dead

[14:46:29] I don't be like, okay, we kind of seen the whole fight now.

[14:46:31] Rids repeating till it dies.

[14:46:33] It's quite funny.

[14:46:33] Like just when it's going to win this bet,

[14:46:35] I'm really annoyed.

[14:46:36] It certainly could be.

[14:46:38] The boss could die very soon.

[14:46:39] Cause as soon as that strategy has been important,

[14:46:41] like the damage check on this fight isn't as crazy.

[14:46:44] They've got a lot of classes that can take full advantage

[14:46:47] of those really, really small windows

[14:46:50] in which the bosses take a ton of damage.

[14:46:51] I mean, incredibly good cleave classes as well.

[14:46:54] So, you know, we're looking at,

[14:46:56] as soon as we get a clean phase three,

[14:46:58] and like a proper clean phase 3, that's a kill pool.

[14:47:01] Like as long as we get there with the first two phases

[14:47:03] looking good as well.

[14:47:04] So it could happen at any point.

[14:47:07] That was certainly encouraging.

[14:47:08] One funny thing actually, of course,

[14:47:10] pretty much everyone in this group right now,

[14:47:12] Vantus on the previous boss.

[14:47:14] Yes.

[14:47:15] This boss would be so trivial with Vantus and everybody.

[14:47:17] I don't even know if it would even help.

[14:47:19] You really?

[14:47:20] What, the little ticking damage coming from the swarms,

[14:47:23] the community inhibition, the bonus damage?

[14:47:24] How often do we die due to a tiny little bit

[14:47:27] extra damage taken by the group. Sure, in that first intermission we had some people time out,

[14:47:31] but pretty much every death we've had is because the boss charged into the wall because we didn't

[14:47:34] do the dispells properly because of a mechanical failure in some way. Having more verse does not

[14:47:39] help your brain move your fingers in a way that makes you so neutral.

[14:47:42] I agree. I mean, you're right on the insta kill mechanics, but the fact that they could break

[14:47:46] those shields probably a full tick earlier, it would be nice. I think if you look back

[14:47:51] at it, I think you still, if you knew that you'll be working on this boss this week,

[14:47:55] as well as Kaiverza? I think it still might be a very reasonable decision, or at least you could

[14:48:01] argue that it's a reasonable decision to use it on Kaiverza. Oh, 100%. No, no, no, no, I'm not saying

[14:48:05] that they shouldn't advance this Kaiverza by any means. That was definitely designed to be Vansist.

[14:48:10] 100%. There ain't no way. I'm just looking at the pulsing damage that's causing a lot of stress

[14:48:16] on the healers and like the big bangs, not the big bangs, but the big damage waves that come

[14:48:19] out with four stacks for sure. It's like doing all that. It's a lot, right, to catch your

[14:48:24] up on and it always turns into more DPS when we go out to heal. And ultimately you could

[14:48:28] get through a lot of this with just lower, lower bosses, making your face, you might even

[14:48:33] be able to skip a part of phase three. Do you know what I mean?

[14:48:36] Oh, eventually, just because of Vantas, but like you'd be very safe to die in the lust,

[14:48:40] which is pretty safe, you know?

[14:48:41] Like later on when your entire group is like 630, 635 or whatever, you are going to

[14:48:46] be getting to like the second chart, no, maybe like the second, so like the first

[14:48:51] dispel stun on the boss in the third phase and then that'll be it the fact will be over for sure

[14:48:55] What boss would you like do you think is the farm wall here for when we you know?

[14:48:59] Oh, what is it went like each week like can we stop trolling or can we skip this one this week?

[14:49:03] I can't think is this one um

[14:49:07] Maybe

[14:49:09] Brute Swister, I think it's covered by a lot of gear right gear yeah

[14:49:12] Make Brute Swister and so much quicker and I think it's also the case for Kyveza

[14:49:17] So Caveso looked so scary for everyone at home and for us as well.

[14:49:20] It's because they made it scary, just because of how tight they had to play it.

[14:49:24] They were doing a bunch of stuff that you wouldn't do in a normal fight.

[14:49:27] You know, it's just because the check was so hard that I think gear will eventually trivialize that.

[14:49:30] Of course, you're still going to do things correctly, but the strategy,

[14:49:33] it's one of those that just watching it from home is like,

[14:49:36] I think there's a reasonable chance I could go in and maybe not troll immediately.

[14:49:39] You know, I feel like I could at least follow it.

[14:49:40] I probably wouldn't do very good damage, but I could follow what they need me to do.

[14:49:43] So yeah, I think that this is like mechanically speaking like a proper difficult little dance

[14:49:48] This is the first one that we've had in the entire raid

[14:49:50] The other ones have been more caused because of the tight checks rather than the mechanics themselves

[14:49:54] Yeah, in force difficulty if that makes sense, you know one tanking strategy is uh-huh pulling out like you know

[14:50:01] Tanks you don't want to have doing certain jobs healers stressed out of their goddamn minds

[14:50:06] All those kind of things have been present in the previous two bosses

[14:50:09] This one just have the insta kill mechanics though, so it always takes one person like glancing over at YouTube

[14:50:15] Changing the music. Yeah watching the stream. Oh, so you met Jimmy then

[14:50:21] Something worse than when you watch your fragments please and Spotify in the middle of progress

[14:50:27] Right now, no fantasy pulled it off pretty much every single time. Yes, he did phenomenal player

[14:50:31] Except when he puts his toe on the off-button on his pc because he uses it as a footrest

[14:50:35] about time to solve eyes disconnected then they come back on a minute later and

[14:50:39] I kick the cable

[14:50:41] I'm sorry I raised full first one's literally move his PC so he could rest his

[14:50:46] feet on it and then turn it off yeah you got to be comfy you're playing for 18

[14:50:50] hours a day as comfy as possible obviously we'll uh oh as we're getting

[14:50:55] you know we get sorry I thought I misjudged what was happening like you

[14:50:58] blink blink blink yeah we go cast out there was point two seconds left I'm

[14:51:03] good loads time yeah absolutely this is where that big damage is coming from

[14:51:08] plays like that the confidence I actually shows a lot of relaxation in the

[14:51:11] players to play like that is like I'm chill I'm comfy I've done this you know

[14:51:15] 100 plus times in this bit and this is the easiest part but it's it's one of

[14:51:19] those you can't get lacks of days cool with you need to be full focused

[14:51:23] because it's not dead yet you can be as relaxed as you want but that doesn't

[14:51:26] mean get sloppy start moving in a way that is not the way you've done

[14:51:31] for the last 100 ways like the biggest thing to control this progress is if someone starts playing

[14:51:35] slightly differently just getting a little lazy like I go near the mark instead of to the mark

[14:51:40] I don't go into the exact place I mean a big example that would be Mizzoff right oh yeah

[14:51:44] pizza slices it's like I'm almost there double grip let's go help me go I maybe made Voka did

[14:51:51] not have there we go it was just maybe on CD we got plenty of time it scares me there was a lot

[14:51:56] of blue team around at that point um whilst we got two red evokas doing what they can in order

[14:52:01] to make sure they get the tether done in time, that they manage to get it down. The

[14:52:05] breath coming out there, increasing the damage that the boss takes, basically

[14:52:09] storing up all of the extra damage and doing it in one big burst. You'll see a

[14:52:12] big chunk of the boss just come off in a sec, but yeah, incredibly strong, so far

[14:52:16] so good. As we're looking generally to leave this phase hopefully at around 75%,

[14:52:21] obviously give or take a percent or so is not the end of the world, but if we're looking for

[14:52:25] some real solid comparison points, that's what we're after. So leaving at 76.2,

[14:52:29] Oh, no. Yeah, that's right. It's not the end of the world. We can live with that

[14:52:34] But hopefully we can live through the intermission which unfortunately

[14:52:36] We've already lost two players as we're doing a little rotate around the boss. Yeah, that must be touching each other

[14:52:41] Yeah, they're both red. Oh, no one's no red blue. Yeah

[14:52:45] Touch not entirely too sure one player out of position there causing the other to run into each other

[14:52:50] Or maybe they just wanted to hug. Yeah, you could give me a number of things

[14:52:53] It could be one player moving too soon

[14:52:54] It could be one player not moving fast enough now I could taking three orbs and is unfortunately gone down

[14:53:00] Whether or not there was a small cluster of them which meant I was supposed to be to that dude

[14:53:04] Well, maybe he's just doing a hero player because of people being dead

[14:53:07] You know sometimes that is also necessary and he's just like well if I so if I don't so kid them all gonna die so might as well

[14:53:12] I'm surprised not doing the pairs strategy here a little bit. It's probably a little bit unnecessary

[14:53:18] So you'd be that strict on it, you know dropping them so it's to put one

[14:53:22] Yeah, they can certainly make their lives easier by trying to spread them out a little bit more, but it doesn't feel as necessary.

[14:53:28] It does feel like it is. You can deal with it. You just got to try and be as aware as possible.

[14:53:34] It depends on if you want to put the strain on everyone to stand in very specific fashions,

[14:53:37] or if you just want to put the strain on people so that they do the mechanic properly, you can see a quick collection.

[14:53:42] It looks really good when it works well.

[14:53:43] That works perfectly. There's one orb left. You can see Khaix is going in to grab it.

[14:53:48] A bit wide walking boomkin making his presence felt.

[14:53:51] Meera has gone down though.

[14:53:53] I think that the damage on the tank at that point might just be a bit ridiculous because

[14:53:56] we also just lost now but I think you might have had some debuffs from beforehand.

[14:53:59] Of course they did change the tank buster more recently to make it so that the debuff

[14:54:04] is shorter but instead of increasing the damage you take by 100% it's a thousand percent.

[14:54:10] Blizzard really wanted to make sure that we do not one tank this fight which is something

[14:54:14] that was on the go but they've hot fixed it since fortunately reduced the health of the boss though as a

[14:54:18] sort of compensation for that makes sense and not on that is some people are very confused this one

[14:54:22] like why would buzzard be so angry at you one tanking and buzzard have been pretty good about

[14:54:26] making sure that what is considered to be the quote unquote standard size of raid gets accommodated

[14:54:30] for uh if you are i mean they build most their content with like two maybe three tanks sometimes

[14:54:36] very rarely it's much easier to get one of the dps's to swap to a temporary tank uh but

[14:54:40] but it's really unfair.

[14:54:42] It's bad ray design to design things

[14:54:44] with random requirements of roles, right?

[14:54:47] Because we ran into this problem,

[14:54:48] and you probably remember it actually in The Nighthold,

[14:54:51] where the Spellblade Allureal,

[14:54:53] people were running like seven healers and things like that.

[14:54:55] Oh yeah.

[14:54:56] And it's just not, people just don't have those.

[14:54:59] You don't recruit that many.

[14:55:01] It's true.

[14:55:01] It just creates a ton of problems

[14:55:02] if you're not kind of falling into this sort of

[14:55:05] set amount of requirements

[14:55:07] because you've got guys who are dedicated to tanking,

[14:55:10] Of course tanks even not just at the race will first level in fact all the way down the line

[14:55:14] Usually have one or two classes that they invest into so they can cover all the tank combinations

[14:55:18] They have reasonable and it's like okay. Well, this is a one tank fight

[14:55:22] It's like okay, and then the next one like what three or four like it may make no sense

[14:55:26] Yeah, they generally is tried to stick to the two tanks one healer per five

[14:55:29] So no around four healers sometimes go to five but that they feel is normally done by you know

[14:55:34] One of your boomkins and maybe you win Walker or something someone just and it's normally fine

[14:55:38] if they're just doing output as well, they don't necessarily need to be like a class

[14:55:41] while especially nowadays output is much more seemingly important than damage reduction

[14:55:45] with so many healing absorbs and whatnot throughout the raid just between speaking quite extensively

[14:55:49] and intelligently about that in terms of the new meta so to speak.

[14:55:54] That's why you know preservation of Oka's doing unreal amount of healing and it's so

[14:55:59] so valuable to have in the raid but yeah generally sticking within the bounds of

[14:56:03] a normal comp just makes it so that at no point do you go to a boss as a normal

[14:56:07] guild and go well we can't do this because we haven't got four tanks.

[14:56:10] Four horsemen is kind of the last lesson in that where people are recruiting eight tanks.

[14:56:15] They actually killed a bunch of guilds.

[14:56:17] People start yoinking tanks from other places.

[14:56:19] Yeah, especially because they recruited all the tanks.

[14:56:21] A character would take so long to get ready back then as well, right?

[14:56:24] Like right now we could ask one of our, like if push came to shove it's just like well

[14:56:28] Narko you need to tank up a nice bridge you're tanking now.

[14:56:31] And it's like okay we can do that.

[14:56:32] I think we just want to split for you.

[14:56:34] I think that even our guilds can do.

[14:56:36] I think the quite a lot of guilds could accommodate three tank fights though.

[14:56:39] I think occasional three is fine, and just like you said with the occasional fifth healer.

[14:56:44] Yep.

[14:56:45] But if you go from like four to six, and then it jumps around a lot, so it was like as I

[14:56:50] said earlier, it's like, okay, this requires two tanks, now this requires eight tanks

[14:56:53] like we have in the next ramours.

[14:56:54] Yeah, that would be a bit nice.

[14:56:55] It's preposterous, right?

[14:56:56] It's just not reasonable, and guilds can't prepare for that, so it actually diminishes

[14:56:59] the amount of guilds that are even available, because if you had to start building raid

[14:57:02] comps that may require six tanks. And then you never get used for progress because this

[14:57:08] is like a one to three tank raid or whatever it is.

[14:57:11] Yeah, that would be silly.

[14:57:12] Yeah, so it's not something Blizzard like at all. If they know that you've got a couple

[14:57:16] of things that you've probably, your guild has two tanks that are your primary tanks

[14:57:20] and they should get representation in the raid, so should your four healers and you

[14:57:25] know you have seven or eight ranged and you have seven or eight melee, those guys

[14:57:28] should always be required and the bosses should be designed in the downline.

[14:57:32] There shouldn't be anything there's nothing worse as well that when the one tank fight comes along

[14:57:35] It's only one tankable by a guardian druid or something or only doable by a win a brewmaster monk

[14:57:42] You know that sucks because well our tanks that we don't have a brewmaster

[14:57:45] So what we have to be put into a position where I don't know maybe the boss is just in a position where it's like a lot

[14:57:51] Less killable obviously, but it's not an issue for these top-guilds where they just bring wherever that if you ask them to 18

[14:57:55] He'll they'll be like yes sure we can do that

[14:57:57] Um, but generally speaking, they want to avoid it.

[14:58:00] That was cool. It's very spooky about how close they are to Blue Gang.

[14:58:03] Yep.

[14:58:04] But the Blue Gang is well aware.

[14:58:05] It's like, yeah, just don't go near the Evokas when they're doing that thing.

[14:58:08] Oh, dearie me.

[14:58:09] But the speaking of them, the Evokas are doing their work,

[14:58:11] but the Touchy-Touchy Gang.

[14:58:14] Weee!

[14:58:15] I'm a dragon.

[14:58:17] Certainly are.

[14:58:18] I'm a little dragon.

[14:58:19] I do like Skull Commander.

[14:58:20] They can lie to you.

[14:58:21] Thanks, boys. Just wait.

[14:58:22] You always need money soon.

[14:58:24] Doesn't allow you to steal, right?

[14:58:26] They've been kind of trolling face one a little bit.

[14:58:27] This is very normal. I've seen this as well as long as they don't start getting inting and getting salty about it

[14:58:35] Then it's it's a case of it. We just lock in focus like we need to

[14:58:41] You know, we've got a job to do here boys. Yeah, we our job is not really to kill this tonight

[14:58:45] Our job is to kill this and have a look at answer it and see what's going

[14:58:48] This is why we did all our chores this morning

[14:58:50] We have given all this night so you can get this fight out of the way and go and mess around with answer

[14:58:55] They have plenty of time, but as soon as the better, the clock is ticking on this

[14:58:59] This is the last day for EU unless you're just in case you're unaware

[14:59:03] They've got until approximately eight o'clock tonight because that's when they want to go to bed

[14:59:07] So they're up nice and early when the reset occurs at five in the morning

[14:59:12] Tomorrow morning that is so it is

[14:59:14] Yeah, it's a six in the morning

[14:59:17] Okay, I've been I've been informed that it is six in the morning. Why are we here from five?

[14:59:21] We're here from six. I misread the schedule on the thing. It is that I'm confused

[14:59:27] There we go an extra hour in bed. Yeah, I think you do. I don't and oh pretty way. Oh, mate

[14:59:33] Efficiency problem

[14:59:35] It is not if I get up in the morning

[14:59:39] No, I think I'm I'm on around midday. I think it's me and medic in the morning. Yeah

[14:59:42] I say midday. I think I'm on from like 10

[14:59:44] Because that's the new midday shift because we're starting so early tomorrow morning at six not five my apologies

[14:59:50] Um, yes, uh, so they're going to get themselves all ready for that. So yeah time is ticking

[14:59:56] Hopefully they're able to make use of every single pool from here on out. No more phase one wipes ideally as we're jumping into pool

[15:00:04] 138. Yeah, we should clarify some because

[15:00:06] Make we're desperate for the killers, but just you are and also we'll have some really cool course there boss drops

[15:00:11] Who you guys? Oh, yeah echo is happy as long as they kill this before bed. Yes. That is like

[15:00:16] Like it's just not ideal, but they're totally fine with killing this at some point today.

[15:00:21] That keeps them completely on pace with Liquid.

[15:00:24] No problem.

[15:00:25] Absolutely fine.

[15:00:26] But there's an opportunity.

[15:00:27] Echo can't win if they stay on pace with Liquid, because Liquid is naturally geographically

[15:00:31] ahead.

[15:00:32] They need to be ahead of Liquid.

[15:00:36] So what they want today is to kill this as fast as possible and get work on Ansurek

[15:00:40] more than Liquid maybe had done.

[15:00:43] That's the goal for the ideal scenario.

[15:00:45] As long as they kill us today, they're fine.

[15:00:47] But me and Alex, and just wait,

[15:00:50] and everybody else who's with us,

[15:00:52] would like it dead in about an hour and a half.

[15:00:55] The other thing is, I think it's,

[15:00:57] I see the potential, and they've done so, so well

[15:01:00] in terms of their progress as well,

[15:01:03] cleaning up the phase ones, cleaning up the phase twos,

[15:01:05] so that we're starting to work out the kinks

[15:01:07] in phase three.

[15:01:08] That's why I want to see them at every single pool.

[15:01:10] Don't get me wrong.

[15:01:12] That is not gonna happen at every single pool.

[15:01:13] It's a very, very difficult encounter,

[15:01:15] Even if it is solved, mistakes will happen or certain situations will occur which are just a little bit difficult to be able to deal with.

[15:01:22] Are they moving the boss in a different way by the way?

[15:01:24] No, they're just, oh, I think you're following where...

[15:01:26] I don't know why them two need to hold hands there.

[15:01:29] It makes no difference.

[15:01:31] I think it's a meme.

[15:01:32] Oh, you think they're just doing it for snuggles?

[15:01:34] Yeah, why not?

[15:01:34] Aw.

[15:01:35] There's so many cute things on this fight.

[15:01:38] It's one of the cutest fights ever.

[15:01:41] There's no reason whatsoever as far as I could tell them to do that.

[15:01:45] Because they never spawn an orb anyway and nobody's out there so they're not exactly preventing the other people from being hit by the acid rain.

[15:01:51] I think because it does no harm you might as well just send it.

[15:01:54] They get right on top of each other as well.

[15:01:58] It's beautiful. Good to see. Friendship.

[15:02:01] Yeah.

[15:02:02] Gingy and hopeful doing a hell of a lot of work in this fight in terms of making sure that they're collecting all of the different orbs and webs needed in the first phase.

[15:02:10] But as you can see, we're heading into the first intermission. The boss is 73.5%, which is excellent.

[15:02:16] Damage is not a concern.

[15:02:19] I think it's safe to say that if we can get through the last phase, and go get to and through the last phase,

[15:02:26] then we're going to be pretty set on the whole damage front.

[15:02:29] I hope so. I mean, I don't think any of us would be angry, right, if they just get a reasonably good phase 3 and it just dies.

[15:02:35] That would be fine.

[15:02:37] I'm sure if we're going to go from like 38 or 35 to dead

[15:02:40] That might be one of the largest jumps in health percentage on a second to last boss in a long time

[15:02:47] I don't think that's going to happen because they haven't seen the extra scary overlaps in phase 3 today

[15:02:51] No there are a couple overlaps in phase 3 which are pretty terrifying where you've got to do dispels

[15:02:55] at the same time that you've got to prevent some charges against them all

[15:02:57] It's pretty nuts so we have that to look forward to

[15:03:00] God I thought it was going to blink onto Wolf Disco there which would have been really bad

[15:03:04] Just a little bit of a lag on his feet, that's okay.

[15:03:07] Now let's follow the melee here, because the melee have been struggling with

[15:03:10] intermissions in general, with running into too many orbs, maybe a little bit of laziness happening.

[15:03:15] Just spreading a little bit, so we'll see how that goes when they get absolutely blasting.

[15:03:24] So now we're going to get the grips out, you can see the blue team spreading apart and you're doing the same here.

[15:03:29] We don't want any of these webs, excellently done, they're going to be returning to collect their orbs.

[15:03:33] Like nothing ever happened. We're gonna be doing dispels onto the boss relatively soon

[15:03:37] Each dispel does do a big burst of raid damage

[15:03:40] So we do want to stagger it and ideally we want to do a dispel right towards this the very end of this cast

[15:03:45] Which is in six seconds. So hopefully not too soon

[15:03:48] We're gonna go to left and two one

[15:03:51] Bam point two seconds left. That's that's quite spooky

[15:03:56] But if the players are happy you can see rice and pulling on a shirt. They're like

[15:03:59] That's a little close, but you can see the boss taking 100% more damage while she is disoriented staggering around in the middle of the room

[15:04:06] Do that one more time throughout this phase and we are going to be golden

[15:04:09] But we do have to deal with one more dragon and this does happen this pulling after the teleport

[15:04:15] Boss teleports to the side the whole raid is slightly out position. Here comes the first drag

[15:04:19] Hopefully they don't run into the blue team as they're all separating out and unfortunately

[15:04:23] We do have kush and mirrors having a little bit of a hug there

[15:04:27] But we do have that available with two as well. We can pretend like that didn't happen

[15:04:31] But yeah, they do they do need to sort out what the hell is going on there

[15:04:34] Hopefully we can get the remainder of the orb soaked as we're doing the dispels here

[15:04:37] We've got three more dispels to do you have Revvers going in next as you can see on the raid frames

[15:04:42] You've got individual marks now. We're gonna have

[15:04:45] Enhance yep with yankob and then we'll ask the wolf disco. There we go

[15:04:50] There it is scarabs there

[15:04:52] They need to be gripping these in because the guys need to blast like any wasted damage here is a

[15:04:56] It is time to actually go to Kha'Nix. You'll see the moment these Skybes die. He's going to be then pumping in his convoked spirits

[15:05:02] We just missed it. I think because the skybes already dead

[15:05:04] But every DPS cooldown here is perfectly lined up for exactly when they need to do it

[15:05:09] I'm not saying that 44.4 going into the intermission

[15:05:13] That would be a really stupid thing for me to point out because they're not going to kill it on this pole

[15:05:18] But that is filthy. It's an excellent sign for progress ahead. So yeah

[15:05:22] But it's exactly what we need to see one thing. We don't need to see though is two spikes

[15:05:27] That is that is a bad time. Don't flop your belly on them. Yeah, we've used a

[15:05:32] What is it a bob on one so you can immune your way out of it?

[15:05:35] But obviously we'd rather not have to use any on any so that is of course done

[15:05:40] But if you get hit by any of these circles on the ground then unfortunately

[15:05:44] Well, of course your shadow step bar something is just causing some issues with where people are stuck

[15:05:48] It will teleport you to a they should put you in the right space, but anybody who's played a rogue will know that's always the case

[15:05:54] But they haven't got a combat res available for a little bit

[15:05:57] So it is up to mere as now now the shield is about to go down is to shift through there's the shield down

[15:06:03] You need to get these last soaps coming in as the swords are going ever close to those orbs indicating that they're due to explode

[15:06:08] But I think we have just managed to snag that

[15:06:12] So excellent work obviously not the cleanest intermission, but we have got through that intermission clean before just unfortunately a little bit of

[15:06:18] Positional issues hopefully Meris can survive long enough for us to practice this upcoming set of grips because it's something that we really have struggled with

[15:06:26] We're facing strikes, so maybe making a taunt play

[15:06:29] Or something because because it doesn't like this one tanking out

[15:06:33] Only one red team member dead, which is excellent news

[15:06:36] And we don't want more than one red team member dead because they are the ones responsible for

[15:06:41] Tripping up the upcoming boss. Still all red team members alive. We're going to go back in and soak our orbs

[15:06:47] even with no tanks there's nothing to tank just yet hopefully we can at least

[15:06:51] interrupt the charge yeah so we got to be a little bit more proactive maybe

[15:06:58] would be the word in terms of stress panic it is a little bit all over the

[15:07:02] place they do need to get comfy here but we did manage to stand the boss which

[15:07:05] is excellent news you see prog if I'm just saying if your team read you are

[15:07:09] pretty happy right now only three members on the floor where the road blue

[15:07:13] losers that's a team spider yeah team spider is blue and I'm just saying

[15:07:18] it seems for his purple and no but the spider boss gives blue debuffs so team

[15:07:22] spider it is the both spiders no the other one is a scarab actually technically

[15:07:27] the both in the root yeah I'm going to bed I'm like medic now please nexus

[15:07:33] Britain's recent back and dimes with a portal by skydeck in order to put the

[15:07:37] And then there goes Valiant Evans into this war and frankly, I'm not happy with it.

[15:07:43] I don't want it.

[15:07:44] Crap, Spiders, baby!

[15:07:45] Crap, Spiders, game!

[15:07:47] Crap, that's where it's at.

[15:07:48] If you are turning on Arachnophobia mode, I don't blame you because they're big, giant

[15:07:52] spiders.

[15:07:53] Apparently, Arachnophobia mode is actually quite good for Brew Twister.

[15:07:58] I saw a Tweet, I think it was THD.

[15:08:01] It could be wrong.

[15:08:02] Sorry if it's not your THD.

[15:08:03] I think it just allows you to see the purple swirly a little bit better because

[15:08:05] The big spiders are slightly smaller crabs of the ones that you pop out.

[15:08:10] So if you're working on Brute Twister, like 350 guilds, probably can't be bothered to do,

[15:08:14] but still, if you might be one of those, try the arachnophobia mode.

[15:08:17] Indeed.

[15:08:18] So another phase three from Echo.

[15:08:19] Excellent to see.

[15:08:20] Very, very good.

[15:08:21] A few more of those, and we will be seeing this boss not long for this world, my friends.

[15:08:26] Not long for this world in good stead for everything.

[15:08:29] And again, we will have those Corsair giveaways for you.

[15:08:31] So obviously Corsair provided the players with choices this time.

[15:08:35] We've actually extended to the point where they're like,

[15:08:37] what would you like?

[15:08:38] Yes.

[15:08:38] So for some of the players,

[15:08:39] they've taken the amazing Corsair Sematar,

[15:08:42] which is fully adjustable enough, big hands.

[15:08:44] We like it.

[15:08:44] I'm debating which one to choose.

[15:08:46] I am going to change mouse to one of these two

[15:08:49] and kind of tempted more for the Dark Star.

[15:08:51] So the Corsair is a classic one

[15:08:53] that has all the side ones.

[15:08:55] Great for MMOs, obviously.

[15:08:56] If you're wondering how people have like world markers,

[15:08:59] pings, all their cooldowns, everything,

[15:09:02] Sematars are great for that.

[15:09:03] But the Dark Star is more MOBA style.

[15:09:04] Yeah, Darksaur has just the six buttons around the side to say just the six, whereas most mice only have the...

[15:09:10] I'm the two on the side, it's not sure.

[15:09:12] Oh yeah, you're entirely right.

[15:09:13] It's got six on the side and then two on the top here as well.

[15:09:16] I use those two at the top to change my DPI, because depending on what game I'm playing, so it can change.

[15:09:21] Really? You actually bothered with that?

[15:09:23] Yep, I use that quite a lot depending on what game I'm playing.

[15:09:25] Because on MMOs, I like my mouse to be very slow, but in FPS games I get to be quite high.

[15:09:29] Yeah, I have a high DPI in FPS games and everyone calls me out on it all the time.

[15:09:33] I think the meta is to have an incredibly low one and like you do need one of the

[15:09:38] Giant mouse mats that you can get on the merch store because you go from like here all the way over there

[15:09:43] And that's like half a turn you're like going like this and it's like and there's a 360

[15:09:48] But no the yeah, this this mouse is absolutely fantastic with the six buttons around the side

[15:09:52] So if the 12 buttons are a little bit scary

[15:09:54] Fair enough. You can make a juice out of the six wonderful mouse one thing. I love as well

[15:09:59] It's a small feature as well with the mouse wheel. You can do left and right with it

[15:10:05] With your fingers like that and that allows you to scroll left and right in most programs, which is really really nice

[15:10:10] Oh, it's on this one, too. Yeah

[15:10:13] Very cool big fan of that also allows is a wireless mouse, but you're able to charge it from the front

[15:10:18] Anytime that you do need to charge it. I'm not using any particular company. I check the picture. It's crazy

[15:10:23] That is the most absurd thing I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, they certainly could do if not doing that

[15:10:28] Also on the very-

[15:10:29] Oh boy!

[15:10:30] I know!

[15:10:30] It's just-

[15:10:32] Yeah, it's- it's correct what we're talking about.

[15:10:35] Different around- yeah.

[15:10:36] False room!

[15:10:37] It's not the best.

[15:10:39] But one thing that's also awesome about this, you get the little Bluetooth fob in the bottom.

[15:10:43] So yeah, I love that.

[15:10:45] We can do that up going elsewhere.

[15:10:47] Dude, we easily stack every wireless keyboard and mouse in our studio,

[15:10:50] and Noop's lost all the fobs for them.

[15:10:53] Yeah?

[15:10:54] Him specifically.

[15:10:55] Oh, jerk.

[15:10:56] We looked everywhere for him everywhere losing your dongle and stuff is just the worst if you just stick it in the hardware

[15:11:03] Headphones that don't do that. I don't get anymore. I can understand that

[15:11:06] Yeah, if your headphones if you make headphone manufacturers

[15:11:09] If you don't make something that I can stick the dongle in it when I'm traveling does make it a lot better

[15:11:14] Let's make it so so much better

[15:11:16] So you can them all we'll be giving away some wonderful Corsair products

[15:11:19] Of course the players have all had access to

[15:11:21] Gotta admit that K70 Max that's in that box

[15:11:25] May very well go missing by the end of it

[15:11:27] It's so heavy

[15:11:29] It's such a good quality man

[15:11:31] Yeah you see like a cheap keyboard that you can bend by breathing on it

[15:11:33] This thing is iron

[15:11:35] It's so good

[15:11:36] I love K70 keyboards

[15:11:38] They've been doing a K70 line for quite a while

[15:11:40] This is just their newest one

[15:11:41] I've got an old K70

[15:11:42] That thing has gone through hell and back with me

[15:11:46] With tons and tons of bottles of wine

[15:11:48] and it still just keeps going. It just doesn't care. It just thinks amazing.

[15:11:54] It's exactly like what you said. It's like one for me and the one for the keyboard.

[15:11:58] I've done horrible things. I use the K100 because I like the big one with the

[15:12:02] I didn't have any of the G keys and stuff. Yeah, I love the K100. It's very nice. I brought it

[15:12:07] with me here. Shout out to Corsair by the way because we all use Corsair stuff here.

[15:12:11] Yeah, we totally do. It's not a meme or anything. It's not just that. So we all use them.

[15:12:16] Yeah, of course they're products.

[15:12:17] That's what my rate would have been.

[15:12:18] Yeah, they had stuff here and I was like, I want my K100.

[15:12:21] I like the keyboard.

[15:12:23] It's very nice.

[15:12:23] It's very beautiful.

[15:12:25] But yeah, it's good stuff.

[15:12:26] And we'll have some giveaways for you guys as soon as Echo

[15:12:29] get this done according to Just Wait, it will be dead.

[15:12:32] And I love this.

[15:12:33] I hope we lose this.

[15:12:34] I don't.

[15:12:35] 15 minutes.

[15:12:36] I faith it just what you think they're going to send it.

[15:12:39] And it's just going to be like, oh, I get it now dead.

[15:12:43] Well, the cement go left.

[15:12:45] Oh

[15:12:47] Going leaf

[15:12:49] I think that law board

[15:12:52] No, you're not allowed. Yeah, not good not allowed goddamn dude

[15:12:58] The excellent thing though, um is that we are

[15:13:02] Certainly moving in the direct direction for this the we were able to sun the boss using the new web strategy in phase three

[15:13:09] Obviously, it wasn't the cleanest. We lost a lot of the blow team, but we went into that phase with a very very messy intermission

[15:13:15] Damage is definitely there. We don't have to worry about damage. We just have to worry about getting there nice and cleanly

[15:13:21] And it's something that echo are known to refine

[15:13:23] They just need to take a little bit more time in order to get there hopefully not too much longer though

[15:13:28] Because we do want to spend as much time as possible. Oh

[15:13:31] It's gonna be forbidden

[15:13:33] Yeah, maybe okay. I got clips. I don't I think he yeah, he did get his color

[15:13:39] Yeah, he was hit by somebody got rezzed and someone hit him again. I think ah

[15:13:43] I think it was that see I think it was that see collided. I know they should be the same color. Hmm. Not sure

[15:13:50] Not curious and curious. Yeah, it is the way of things. Oh, yes, sure

[15:13:56] I've been ignorant we have received donations. Oh, okay, you know, it's absolutely fine as we're waiting for them to pull a boss

[15:14:02] Of course, we are raising money for the wonderful games for love

[15:14:07] Charity that we've you guys have been so generous rates over to a 22,000

[15:14:13] So far, so thank you so so much. We've got some wonderful upcoming incentives for you. We've already broken through

[15:14:21] Well tons of them that we've got RC rumble and scuffed cosplay on the go

[15:14:26] We've actually picked our scuffed cosplay groups. I don't want to spoil too much

[15:14:29] But me and Mike are not in the same one

[15:14:32] We'll be working against each other head-to-head on that

[15:14:34] We've got Raider portraits coming up International cast or appreciation day the narrow bar as well as crab and spider tattoos that narrow bar

[15:14:41] If we're gonna get there actually we need to do that ASAP because this is a medics baby the narrow bar

[15:14:48] What is cast international caster appreciation day?

[15:14:52] Um, it might be a day in which we take some time to appreciate what we go to a spa

[15:14:57] It's um, it's not that nice. Okay, we'll see. Oh, let me let me blast through somebody sorry for being ignorant guys

[15:15:04] We were I've got this. I'm like looking with Alex me with chit chat

[15:15:09] Do you remember Hellfire Citadel?

[15:15:11] I do I hate it. Well, I had I hated the raid but I had a kid during hell fires. The thing is as soon as you bring up

[15:15:17] How far sit down for someone who played it? They've all got everyone's talk about everyone's got story

[15:15:21] Everyone means me like Alex

[15:15:24] I brought up hell fire

[15:15:29] It's my fault

[15:15:30] It's what it is we're jumping in to another pool one forty two lucky number one forty two if you ask me as we're

[15:15:38] going to be hoping that they are able to increase their consistency instead of

[15:15:42] running into these small little issues that are having in phase one, phase two we

[15:15:45] know that they can get through cleanly same with both intermissions it has been

[15:15:49] solved there's still room for optimization I'm sure and not in terms of

[15:15:53] damage what there is also damage optimizations available but we're

[15:15:56] definitely focused on survival optimizations oh no don't do that

[15:16:02] jump scare that's horrible yeah I don't like that I mean I know he's

[15:16:07] pulling it off but I think some of these early phase 1 deaths are maybe because of moves like that

[15:16:11] that they just seem unnecessary. It's just very cool. It's cool but it feels very unnecessary.

[15:16:15] If you're not sure what I'm talking about red is diving into the blue area as they circle

[15:16:19] around to the left so you really I mean this is you know it's world first prod you should be

[15:16:22] relying on your teammates to be doing exactly what they need to do it just looks terrifying.

[15:16:27] Yeah they shouldn't be there but I mean I don't know about you but I'm always checking it's like

[15:16:31] well you were in the wrong place dude so I couldn't do my thing. Yeah I think it's

[15:16:36] It's got to be right down there.

[15:16:37] Not tank swap.

[15:16:38] Look at that.

[15:16:38] Two of the piercings.

[15:16:39] Oh, yeah.

[15:16:39] You can't do that.

[15:16:41] No, those piercing strikes increase the damage you take by 1,000%.

[15:16:44] They also persist through death.

[15:16:45] So now we'll have to definitely be the recipient of the next tank hit.

[15:16:49] They will wear off.

[15:16:50] That's a bit of a weird thing for those two to wipe, too.

[15:16:53] Considering how much they've played together,

[15:16:55] I wonder if there's maybe a little inconsistency with the timer.

[15:16:57] Perhaps.

[15:16:57] Tab went wrong.

[15:16:58] Inoffensive.

[15:16:59] It could also just be a mechanical.

[15:17:00] It works.

[15:17:01] It could be wrong.

[15:17:01] Exactly.

[15:17:02] It'll happen to anybody, right?

[15:17:04] It's like these two are both co-MDI champions 13 times in a row.

[15:17:08] And occasionally I press tap wrong.

[15:17:10] Sorry.

[15:17:12] It could totally happen.

[15:17:13] It's one of those things.

[15:17:15] We've all done it at some point.

[15:17:16] If you've ever tanked to you have obviously taunted

[15:17:17] the wrong mobsome song.

[15:17:19] Especially when there's a bunch of little scarves everywhere.

[15:17:21] So especially if you're using the 3D space,

[15:17:23] you might have accidentally clicked on the wrong one.

[15:17:24] That's why I use boss frames.

[15:17:26] Because then they click on the boss frame using my mouse.

[15:17:28] Or I have to.

[15:17:29] In fact, I know they use key bindings

[15:17:30] to select between boss frames.

[15:17:32] I just, er, don't tank.

[15:17:34] Yes, I can't mistaunt if you don't tank.

[15:17:37] I'm the guy who says, full focus this ad and then can't find it in the pile.

[15:17:41] Tell me that's not something you've all done.

[15:17:45] Hard swap.

[15:17:46] Er, yeah.

[15:17:47] Okay, here's hard to swap.

[15:17:50] Oh man.

[15:17:52] This one, isn't it?

[15:17:53] Okay, I put move fire on it but it died.

[15:17:55] Yay, it helped.

[15:17:57] Yeah, you can just splash damage onto it.

[15:17:59] Hard swapping means just look out on the boss and cleave.

[15:18:01] and cleave, you'll be fine.

[15:18:03] Ooh, some players getting a little bit close to the explosions there.

[15:18:07] I do believe that we're able to survive on the mini going down.

[15:18:11] No res available for us.

[15:18:12] Some of the orbs were a little difficult to pick up there.

[15:18:15] They were like overlapping into the webs a little bit.

[15:18:17] You see it's happening again.

[15:18:18] Like you've got to be able to clear them though as they ran through this time.

[15:18:21] So that wasn't so bad.

[15:18:22] But I think many got knocked back by the actual web on the ground,

[15:18:24] which was the issue.

[15:18:25] Yeah, I think it was just a bit slow getting around.

[15:18:27] Or maybe it was a couple of orbs left in the web.

[15:18:29] No, they are with the shield at the end.

[15:18:31] They're definitely doing something to get their damage and it's certainly working coming out of this phase

[15:18:35] Obviously 75% is where we wanted to be we've had lower

[15:18:38] But they are doing everything they can to squeeze as much damage out as possible

[15:18:42] If they know it's going to be something they have to do long term then getting that optimization in now might certainly help with the consistency of it later

[15:18:49] Exactly, so make sense as to what it's done. Fair enough. We'll be able to get Mini up in a minute and ten seconds

[15:18:56] Yeah, no ink available for him on this poll, unfortunately, but Alex is actually right.

[15:19:01] Echo, in fact, all guilds on this heavy end of progress, always making things harder in

[15:19:06] the earlier, easier stages of the fight to make the end of the hard a bit a little bit

[15:19:10] as we're going to be dispelling under the boss one by one.

[15:19:13] One hero.

[15:19:14] He got PTSDU from Princess.

[15:19:15] Yeah, he would have definitely got the three-parry.

[15:19:19] Yeah, 100% Reaper would have proctored him there.

[15:19:21] Here we go.

[15:19:22] The last spell.

[15:19:23] People are now dead to me even when they're alive.

[15:19:25] Like, full dead dude.

[15:19:27] Oh man.

[15:19:28] Yeah, here goes that Kavok.

[15:19:29] There you can go as soon as the scarabs are out the way.

[15:19:31] That's where you can go into the Kavok.

[15:19:33] Pull all that damage in.

[15:19:34] A big 4.6 million star surge coming out of Kanax there.

[15:19:37] Rising him to the damage meter and making it work.

[15:19:41] Come on in, Mimi.

[15:19:42] His job here is to murder the scarabs,

[15:19:44] and he's doing an excellent job at that,

[15:19:45] allowing the rest of them to funnel their better side

[15:19:47] of the DPSN.

[15:19:48] Here comes that left grip.

[15:19:49] And they see them split apart around the red team,

[15:19:52] which they've managed to do.

[15:19:54] Okay, now that's starting to look pretty sexy.

[15:19:56] I'm not gonna lie, that's starting to look pretty good, dude.

[15:19:58] Yeah, Jinji died to something else.

[15:20:00] I wonder if he got three orbs.

[15:20:01] He might have over-soaked, yeah.

[15:20:03] Maybe the red...

[15:20:03] That might also be that the blue team were maybe a little bit too stacked,

[15:20:07] so he's he blinked in, he collected three orbs instantly, who knows?

[15:20:10] But we're gonna have one by one dispels under the boss right now.

[15:20:13] That weak aura didn't actually tell him to do it at that point.

[15:20:16] Do we actually have enough stacks?

[15:20:17] Yeah, we do, two more.

[15:20:18] Quickly dispel, I like jumping to Gush, though.

[15:20:20] Bye!

[15:20:21] Bye!

[15:20:22] That's the first time I've seen the white dot.

[15:20:24] Yes, without it being completely screwed up, otherwise, no, you're entirely right.

[15:20:27] Yeah, that is the first time they've had a big boom machine.

[15:20:30] The sky's laughing at them.

[15:20:31] What are you doing?

[15:20:33] That gripping with the webbing, though, did look nice.

[15:20:36] It just seemed that...

[15:20:37] It will.

[15:20:38] Like all Rodgers recipes, eventually the cook looks good.

[15:20:41] Once the cook is done properly, it looks beautiful.

[15:20:45] Until then, it looks like I made it.

[15:20:47] Do you want me to break your heart for a second, actually?

[15:20:49] You know the strat that they use on Covezza?

[15:20:52] you know the wonderful geometric shape strap. I thought that was a roger cook.

[15:20:58] He didn't cook it. What? It's not roger. Who's was that? A little scribe. That was

[15:21:03] scribe so then they changed the rogers? No, no roger had a strap that didn't work

[15:21:08] so then he's scripes in the end. Okay so roger ruined the food,

[15:21:11] scribe made something edible but not tasty and then they just went with what's standard.

[15:21:17] No, we went from Roger's slightly janky cook over to, um, yes, gripes, very, you know, easily

[15:21:27] edible one.

[15:21:28] So, yeah, I was very sad about that.

[15:21:29] I thought I'm confused.

[15:21:31] The beautiful corridor.

[15:21:32] Is that what we're talking about was Rodgers on?

[15:21:34] I'm talking about Conversa, right?

[15:21:35] Yeah.

[15:21:36] Yeah.

[15:21:37] The first strategy they used, the only use of the three poles was where they built

[15:21:39] a beautiful little corridor of a straight line.

[15:21:42] I never saw that.

[15:21:43] That's Rogers.

[15:21:44] That's Rogers.

[15:21:45] Yeah, it was bad.

[15:21:46] So, do you know why it was bad?

[15:21:48] Why?

[15:21:48] It looked amazing.

[15:21:49] Well, because they killed everyone.

[15:21:50] No, no, it didn't.

[15:21:51] It was actually, in principle, he was absolutely correct.

[15:21:55] OK.

[15:21:55] Right?

[15:21:56] So they only moved, like, two yards,

[15:21:58] and they overlapped all three of the portals,

[15:22:00] three on one side, three on the other,

[15:22:02] and made a perfect rectangular corridor

[15:22:04] through the middle of the room.

[15:22:05] And then they had gateways that

[15:22:07] went from the middle to the outside,

[15:22:09] meaning that you could just gateway out to drop your

[15:22:11] queen's veins, right?

[15:22:12] That's jokes.

[15:22:14] And all the melee had to do, they

[15:22:15] Melee got full up time because all they had to do was move back and that meant their Queensbane would go past.

[15:22:20] If everyone pixel stacked, the Queensbane's from the direct middle would not touch them.

[15:22:24] That was the strat.

[15:22:25] So the Queensbane?

[15:22:25] Okay.

[15:22:26] However, what became quickly apparent is that in order to make that work, everybody who had Queensbane,

[15:22:33] in order to make the angles correct, had to turn around as if it was like a blinding flash mechanic.

[15:22:38] Oh no.

[15:22:39] And have their butts to the boss.

[15:22:41] Yes.

[15:22:41] And they did it three times and everybody just went,

[15:22:44] Rodgers this is horrible, this is absolutely horrible.

[15:22:48] In principle, it was a really good idea.

[15:22:50] It was a super, super good idea.

[15:22:52] So yeah, that's what it was.

[15:22:53] So you would gateway out if you had a dark mask on you

[15:22:56] and everybody else could just move slightly backwards

[15:22:59] and nothing hits and the things just went

[15:23:02] through the middle of the boss all the time.

[15:23:03] So the raid never had to move.

[15:23:05] And if you did have to move, you had a gateway.

[15:23:07] Oh, we've got a good grip coming in now.

[15:23:09] Yeah, that's why we're bringing those three DKs

[15:23:11] Tons of grips in there. Those scarabs have actually been kind of a non-mechanic for the most part

[15:23:15] All down to them just being cleaved constantly if we swap to Kush right now

[15:23:19] You can see they cleave down these scarabs because the boss arrives right here

[15:23:22] So that's why they're not following or anything and why they stun the boss here

[15:23:25] Because they just keep the scarabs here the DPS always has something to attack and then as soon as this arrives

[15:23:31] There's no ads that chew up like passive damage and stuff

[15:23:34] You know, especially if you've got a character that like with the Convoker something which can hit other targets

[15:23:38] So it just gets it just removes all the element and in perfect timing again the damage profile of echo here is

[15:23:44] Directly on point. I like his big week or actually two out of three now is

[15:23:50] This is clear in the most some people just seem to be like manually counting in their heads

[15:23:57] With the soaking of the orbs

[15:23:59] It is imperative that you don't reach three stacks of the opposing orb cut otherwise you do die very quickly

[15:24:06] So we have seen that a couple of times sometimes people have been doing it on purpose because if an orb isn't soaked

[15:24:11] Just if you're unaware then it will explode and apply the dot to everyone

[15:24:15] So if a blue orb explodes it'll give a dot stack to every red person

[15:24:19] So if you have like three people with two stacks that's gonna kill three people

[15:24:22] It's better. They're just one person just quickly grabs it and dies themselves

[15:24:25] So there are some here a place that you can do on this fight. Hopefully it doesn't come down to that

[15:24:31] Ideally when this fight is done correctly

[15:24:33] It is one lovely long dance and it looks like everything's perfect and you could go on forever

[15:24:38] Chances are a first kill won't look that way, but here's fingers crossed that it does

[15:24:44] There was scoff scoff scoff their kill was actually really clean. Yeah, it wasn't too bad at all

[15:24:48] Yeah, I think we lost like one person

[15:24:51] Just at the very very end of phase three which we had a battle res for anyway

[15:24:55] Everything else was just like full vibes. It was nice and chill. I'm nodding away. I think he's vibing some tunes

[15:25:00] Oh, yeah, I'm holy

[15:25:03] Paladin

[15:25:05] He's listening to me get to play my holy paladin

[15:25:07] He's listening to the amazing music that of course echo provided by low-wave. Yes beans beans beans

[15:25:13] Not just that but we've also

[15:25:16] Echo and low-wave have collaborated on making some wonderful songs songs that you have been listening to during the break

[15:25:20] You can find them on Spotify and stuff. Yes, you can they have an entire album. Yes made for this raid

[15:25:26] Which you can again just tune into it's called upheaval I believe I'll let you cover that one

[15:25:32] Uprising! I was close!

[15:25:33] Uprising on Spotify is the X-Club album in the chat.

[15:25:37] Yeah, if you want to have a little listen on it.

[15:25:39] I need to do that myself.

[15:25:40] Yeah, I'll search Uprising on Spotify.

[15:25:42] Did not delay this time, Al.

[15:25:44] No, you did not delay.

[15:25:45] I think they're overkilling, maybe, and they're just like, it's not necessary.

[15:25:48] Yeah, they might be getting to a position.

[15:25:50] The thing is, is that we're talking about the DPS optimization.

[15:25:53] They might need to delay because we know that 20 seconds into the phase,

[15:25:56] I need to use my hymn, or we need to use a dev aura,

[15:25:59] but the dev aura is not going to be ready for another 10 seconds.

[15:26:01] Like I said, it's on a 30 second cooldown, so there might be a little bit of that going on.

[15:26:04] So they might shift to their cooldowns around so they don't need to screw around like that.

[15:26:08] But I guess we will find out, heading back in and soaking our orbs after the first successful grips.

[15:26:13] We're going to be getting those stinging swarm debuffs from our good friend Anubarash to be dispelled onto our Spider Lady.

[15:26:21] Yeah, Sumer's still delaying this. Eight seconds till they need to spell do it.

[15:26:24] Only one less. A left as well.

[15:26:26] Yeah, zero, so four, three, two, one.

[15:26:30] Dispel.

[15:26:31] 0.2. That's alright. Once again, dispelling it as late as possible, not only has to...

[15:26:36] Oh, I love that weak aura. That's an excellent weak aura to have. I need that for real, dude.

[15:26:42] Oh yeah. I totally need that weak aura. No, not that one. Okay. Yeah, of course, that weak

[15:26:47] aura was showing that when there was a vulnerability up on one of the bosses and

[15:26:50] you were targeting the other one, it was like, what are you doing? Sort of tap quickly. That's

[15:26:55] not the right one. Here comes the scary grip. This is something that we struggled with

[15:26:58] quite a lot here let's see if they can do it all going back that way is an

[15:27:00] interesting choice there from many who's gonna have to run around unfortunately

[15:27:05] heading in the wrong direction with but was able to recover it one of the things

[15:27:08] is that of course it does go wrong it's okay the world dispells one by one now

[15:27:12] heading underneath our good spider priestess a web priestess there

[15:27:18] the main the ones you have to run to the middle for big boom in seven seconds

[15:27:22] the only one to spell that as well. Yep, so hold hold hold. Yeah, one second too early.

[15:27:32] Shambles that's it. Wipe it. Even though this is the best pull they've ever done actually.

[15:27:39] If you look at this this is ridiculously good for Reco. Prepare for imminent disaster

[15:27:45] and it's not my fault. Of course going into the intermission here which they have

[15:27:49] done very successfully. They've lost all the way down to around 44% very nice. That's exactly

[15:27:55] what we see. 45 is the target that I believe that Liquid were able to get to. So getting

[15:28:01] it down an entire extra percent is very nice, but they still have a lot of work to do.

[15:28:04] They're only in this intermission, which of course, unfortunately losing Zeruo pretty

[15:28:08] early there. Not the end of the world. He'll be able to be raised up hopefully

[15:28:12] on the correct side of the room with his team as we're going to continue to cycle

[15:28:16] around the boss in order to get to other people's orbs. You can see them largely in little clumps of

[15:28:21] two. You've got to be very careful though of the ever-expanding rings going out here. 60% on the

[15:28:26] shield. Very nice. One last hit likely coming in. Oh they're going to try and bust before it.

[15:28:31] They've got two seconds left and they were able to push through it. No chill. Hold on to your

[15:28:35] bots guys. But we have got one person out in an impaled spike right there. Hopefully we

[15:28:39] can break them out nice and sharpish. But you're seeing that the red team is already making

[15:28:43] in their way over towards the wall.

[15:28:45] Is it a fake?

[15:28:46] It's a fake, yeah, it's fucked them.

[15:28:47] Yeah, it's fucked, it's not a fake.

[15:28:49] It does happen.

[15:28:50] Boparoo.

[15:28:51] You can see the two bosses stacked on top of each other here,

[15:28:52] and here comes the one of the first really difficult

[15:28:55] overlaps, as we are gonna be getting a grip in.

[15:28:58] The red team here are gonna be trying to keep their webs,

[15:29:00] though, because we need to use them

[15:29:02] to trip over a new barrage.

[15:29:04] So you gotta be soaking orbs, dodging rings,

[15:29:07] dodging loads of different things,

[15:29:08] as well as the enemy team, or the allies,

[15:29:11] as they're also known.

[15:29:12] While keeping this all ready, I see if they're able to achieve it, especially with everyone alive, it's a very difficult thing to do.

[15:29:18] I've never got this right, so pay attention guys.

[15:29:20] Here we go, let's see if we can get the three across, it's looking good.

[15:29:23] Oh we broke some of the tethers there though.

[15:29:25] It's good.

[15:29:26] Everyone is alive, somehow.

[15:29:28] Excellent work.

[15:29:29] Excellent work, false scoff but they did it.

[15:29:30] Oh careful of that.

[15:29:31] Oh the frontal has been baited onto the boss though, that's a nightmare, you do not want that.

[15:29:34] Can you see there's some extra orbs of spawn there though, because some of the people were unfortunately clipped by it, but they were soaked in time.

[15:29:41] This is looking incredibly good, new best regardless.

[15:29:44] They need to reposition.

[15:29:44] They haven't done this before.

[15:29:46] Oh, lots of both tanks, though.

[15:29:47] That is something that you really don't want to have to handle.

[15:29:49] This is full picnic.

[15:29:50] This is what this is.

[15:29:50] Yeah.

[15:29:51] This is an overlap that they haven't really

[15:29:52] had to deal with too much, and they

[15:29:54] weren't behind because of that orb soak.

[15:29:55] It certainly caused a little bit of mental congestion.

[15:29:58] They brought me a spell.

[15:29:59] I can't go to keep going.

[15:30:00] So now they need to do the spells

[15:30:02] and make sure that is done.

[15:30:04] Big boom.

[15:30:05] OK, here we go.

[15:30:06] Big boom is stopped.

[15:30:07] Oh, no.

[15:30:07] Seven seconds.

[15:30:08] They have two more spells to do.

[15:30:09] They're going to make it.

[15:30:10] get zero in the next three seconds. Two more. Oh it jumped.

[15:30:14] Thana go under. No. Now it jumped. Yeah, it went a little bit pear shaped there. 29.1%

[15:30:19] This boss is so dead. Like damage wise they've got it. They've got it dude. They're free.

[15:30:26] You can see that as well as they're at the end of the late. Let's go.

[15:30:29] This boss is so dead when we get that one right but he was pretty clear they were

[15:30:32] like full circus clown car there. I think I saw Thana literally getting a little bike

[15:30:36] I'm just going to go see the wild blue yonder, whatever it is, I want to be free, I want to

[15:30:54] run, that's the last one, that's it, they've lost just after that and they got one more

[15:31:03] charge.

[15:31:04] Yeah that's it, they have the charge and another debuff.

[15:31:05] Did they have to use those webs for a charge?

[15:31:07] Yeah, they have to, on top of the boss it will be teleported to the middle.

[15:31:11] Crazy.

[15:31:12] So we'll have the same as we had then, so you get the 5 debuffs, you do 2 before the teleport,

[15:31:15] you do the last 3 on top of the teleport, and you time that with the charge, you get

[15:31:19] your webs just before the, obviously because it's the third web that actually causes the

[15:31:23] trip up, you get them both on top of each other, you pop the lust, bon voyage,

[15:31:29] boss aroo.

[15:31:30] Yeah.

[15:31:31] This boss will chunk down, if they can get it to that point where they pop

[15:31:33] Bloodlust, everyone alive, both bosses stunned one after another.

[15:31:36] The amount of health that the boss loses is incredible.

[15:31:40] How quickly it melts.

[15:31:41] So, although it looks like we've still got, like, just over a quarter of the boss still left to do.

[15:31:47] Nope, we've got maybe around...

[15:31:49] What, about a fifth of the fight left?

[15:31:51] It's a very difficult fifth, mind you, but a fifth nonetheless.

[15:31:54] Loser.

[15:31:55] Oh, no.

[15:31:56] They are five minutes away. It's 100% wine time.

[15:31:58] There is no way it's not wine time right now.

[15:32:01] Can you ask the moderators if Liquid killed the courts because there's an update that says they're still progging?

[15:32:06] It's their favourite question.

[15:32:08] Someone's still asking, people coming in, did Liquid kill it, did Liquid kill it?

[15:32:12] No, Liquid only has four pools on the Silken Court.

[15:32:15] They're still working on phase one at 83%. Honestly, a bit of a shambles from Liquid.

[15:32:20] But we'll see what's going on. Yes.

[15:32:22] We've got a wonderful $10 from Israel playing for the kids.

[15:32:32] Indeed, we are raising money for the games for love over the course of this race.

[15:32:35] You guys have been tremendous as we move towards the rate of portraits.

[15:32:38] I believe with that wonderful Bob Ross himself.

[15:32:40] Oh, that's not me. That's someone entirely different.

[15:32:42] Oh, really?

[15:32:43] What Bob Ross is?

[15:32:44] Yeah, that is true.

[15:32:45] That is actually true.

[15:32:46] That's factual and true and accurate.

[15:32:48] It is provided distraction therapy for kids who are trapped in hospital

[15:32:51] hospital for their childhood with serious diseases and things like that. So providing

[15:32:55] some video games that we would all have loved. Something to stop them staring at the walls

[15:32:58] and losing their minds as little children. For sure. The most precious time of their

[15:33:02] life. $10 from Axion. Keep up the great work guys. I love the race to the first. Come

[15:33:07] on Echo. Well, you're about to see it. So, I mean they are like 20 seconds away from

[15:33:12] killing this boss at this point. So we'll, well, I think we've got maybe about a minute

[15:33:18] a minute and a half left but we're certainly moving in the right direction. Slimey toes

[15:33:23] enjoy it. Oh, talking of which. Oh, you just removed it. I'm not looking. Don't refuse me

[15:33:29] when I know I'm not looking at the screen. Can we appreciate how well Method is doing

[15:33:33] in keeping up? We can't wait for the race to first become a three way split. Hopium,

[15:33:37] same here. Totally true. Method of constantly being keeping up throughout. Occasionally

[15:33:42] even pulling ahead boss percentage-wise, but in terms of the improvement seen from them

[15:33:48] over the course of last expansion, all the way to this one, it's really good to see.

[15:33:52] They're really hungry for it. I had a few drinks with them at BlizzCon when a lot of

[15:33:57] Method were there and we were talking about it. They were like, yeah, next tier we're

[15:33:59] going for it. I was like, I don't think it'll be next tier, but we've been following

[15:34:02] their progress, believe me. We pay attention to these things. I was like, two more tiers.

[15:34:07] I think then you're going to be there because you've got to find your groove. You're

[15:34:09] still like a lot of players getting together and doing things like that and

[15:34:12] they're not got that experience yet with a lot of the players of learning a new

[15:34:17] boss with your own strategies and things like that so I was like I think like two

[15:34:20] tiers you're gonna be there it's exactly two tiers later right now since we had

[15:34:24] that conversation cool that it's just you could see that rise in where they

[15:34:28] were going and I would really hope I haven't been able to follow obviously

[15:34:32] methods streaming while we're streaming how they've been doing with

[15:34:36] developing their own strategies and solutions to some of these bosses

[15:34:38] because that's the true world first experience.

[15:34:41] Everything else you see someone else do.

[15:34:43] So you can be great at implementing

[15:34:45] someone else's strategy is not the same

[15:34:47] as developing your own strategy.

[15:34:48] Oh, no, definitely not.

[15:34:49] So really hoping to have a review after this

[15:34:53] and see how they get on.

[15:34:54] But fantastic, yeah.

[15:34:56] Something we've all yearned for for a long time

[15:34:58] is it not to be a two horse race.

[15:34:59] We want three, four, five competitors.

[15:35:02] Fat Shark up there really makes me so happy.

[15:35:05] I'm merely killing Kai Vezer as well.

[15:35:08] like getting close such a good girl

[15:35:12] Two dollars came in from sorry, erithia hi with you a big shout out to production and the cast is very interesting

[15:35:18] Thank you. We do our best. It's always nice when they're doing new prog pulls so we can do that kind of stuff with you and

[15:35:24] Kenzie hi Kenzie with ten dollars. Thank you the amazing casting and love that I can find there

[15:35:30] So that I can help the kids around I can't wait to see Queen proc

[15:35:33] Hopefully it will be the same as frack between liquid and echo. Maybe method who knows we are all

[15:35:40] Even liquid doesn't know the weirdness and I'm correct yet as far as we know because it's not really going to kick in until phase three

[15:35:47] Mm-hmm, but we know there is weirdness. That's what we know. There's something fuck you there

[15:35:53] That's the technical technical service is something fuck you there

[15:35:57] We'll all see it together. Hopefully we'll see it first that would be the big plan

[15:36:01] Oh, yeah, and the final one here from Jono's bedpan

[15:36:06] Suggesting for strike based on liquids Paul it feels like the boss is way easier if you don't die

[15:36:12] There's sort of leech strats actually that's not the echo way the echo ways to overkill the boss so hard that you can have the raiders die

[15:36:19] And still kill it. Yes. That's the echo strats, right?

[15:36:22] You want to kill it in phase two?

[15:36:24] Yes, thank you. You want to kill it in phase two ideally?

[15:36:27] Yeah, no do keep your donations coming in of course lots of fun things coming up

[15:36:32] We've done a whole host of crazy stuff and there's even more coming

[15:36:36] I think we're doing quite a lot of the such as the RC cars as well as the scuff cosplay

[15:36:40] That's largely gonna be a tomorrow thing whilst they're doing some random bits and pieces

[15:36:43] So we look forward to getting those things for you then

[15:36:46] Yes, do keep your donations coming in the 40k if we managed to reach 40k that'd be insane the tattoos both Jesse

[15:36:53] Yep, and medic getting a little crab tattoos. Oh, it's is no good. Oh

[15:37:00] No, she's gonna spider. Oh man. That'll be awesome. That'd be really really cool

[15:37:05] So it's good to see is that I think that pool was a little

[15:37:10] Levity for the guild. They seem to be pretty happy. Yes

[15:37:13] That's what they need because they have honestly hours and hours to kill this is still be fine

[15:37:17] It's so hard to get scraped to laugh. You just have to say something like you're gonna lose and he starts laughing at you

[15:37:25] I tell him that every morning. Oh dear. Yeah, he walked in this morning

[15:37:34] He's got your head of the game scrappy

[15:37:37] But he's having a good time

[15:37:38] They've not only kept up they crept a little bit ahead on time, but they need to get more

[15:37:43] Yes, they do they need more time and that's a bad

[15:37:46] Excellent way of doing that is by having four people die at the beginning there might

[15:37:50] This is my

[15:37:53] Strategy, yeah

[15:37:55] Too much levity the script laughs you doomed if you watch right now. Is he still laughing?

[15:38:00] Let's find out

[15:38:02] Yep

[15:38:04] Now he's checking his on this on the present screen above him. Yeah, praise the on the side

[15:38:09] Oh man. He is. He worships. There's actually if you played the new Space Marine 2, have

[15:38:16] you played it? No. At the time. The Mechanicus comes down in the ship and it's like a guy

[15:38:21] with like 25 monitors or something. It's like going visiting Scripe for your log report.

[15:38:26] It's like you're submitting your SIM for Scripe to assess. You go over there and praise

[15:38:30] the Omnicire. You scribe the lands and then he like besmirches you for being bad.

[15:38:35] Oh dear, it looks like with that actually here. You can see that they're like, okay

[15:38:40] Best pull into the worst pull. Let's take a little bro. Oh, yeah fine pull lads new best pull time for wine

[15:38:47] That's so good to break so with the killers imminent, you know it we know it you could feel it in the air

[15:38:52] I think I said two hours. It was in another 45 minutes

[15:38:56] And I think I'm on target for that if they get two more good pulls through that phase

[15:38:59] I think this is GG's gonna be exciting man. It is really looking forward to this

[15:39:02] Let's go and have a little break you out. Let's go stretch our legs and then get strapped in go grab yourselves a drink

[15:39:06] Go grab yourselves a little snack a roof

[15:39:08] We're gonna do the same things and get back here because not only is the boss dying

[15:39:11] But last of course I good to give away to you as a listening wave

[15:39:32] Think which is a beta? Yeah

[15:39:36] Everyone's gone bro

[15:39:38] I'm not leaving, I'm not leaving.

[15:39:40] I was watching this rip while there were blue orbs, people were hit by the line.

[15:39:44] Yeah, sometimes you just have to sing a song with them.

[15:39:48] I was both reviewing.

[15:39:52] Probably, both reviewing.

[15:39:56] No one said anything about the orbs.

[15:40:01] There's a guest over there.

[15:40:03] Wait, everyone actually does. It's not food break though.

[15:40:08] I don't know.

[15:40:10] I guess I stand up as well then.

[15:40:15] I'm sure she'll like her inies.

[15:40:17] with it.

[15:40:18] Wow.

[15:40:19] Lix, you like it more Tongan style, yeah?

[15:40:22] The Natti Gulen.

[15:40:23] I don't know, I'm just telling you the reminders we had, they were going again.

[15:40:27] This tool has gone downhill, yeah?

[15:40:29] Yeah.

[15:40:30] The features has been...

[15:40:32] Oh, I'm getting IRO positively.

[15:40:34] Lix, I have to say, we didn't change anything, so it's much for the user.

[15:40:39] I'm telling you that this tool, when I used to press the windows, the icon would

[15:40:43] go away.

[15:40:44] When I didn't have it ready, it would be a gray icon.

[15:40:46] I don't think these things have any moves.

[15:40:47] Those things is a personal setup.

[15:40:49] I haven't changed anything from my side of the board.

[15:40:52] I haven't watched these things since I was a kid.

[15:40:54] Oh yeah, by old age life.

[15:40:56] You need to adjust your thing.

[15:40:58] Okay, so it reset on your end and they were out of that?

[15:41:01] No, it didn't reset.

[15:41:02] We updated it because Ryzen didn't want for the healers for it to like show the on CD and things like that.

[15:41:09] Yeah, but you pay, the way I had to setup my Icon stuff, they are the same.

[15:41:14] So just D-Settings that is supposed to be great.

[15:41:16] Like I don't know where D-Settings are.

[15:41:17] There's a new checkbox added to it.

[15:41:19] And that one you didn't configure.

[15:41:21] Of course not. I don't go in there for fun to just look if there's been updates.

[15:41:24] It's all to go in there.

[15:41:26] Who's making the gateway after the first charge in P3?

[15:41:29] I'm the one here.

[15:41:30] Can you put it like that with the boss?

[15:41:32] Because it's like the boss is telling us I'm dead, I'm just curious.

[15:41:34] I don't want to hit the boss as well.

[15:41:36] Nah.

[15:41:38] Also to the boss?

[15:41:40] Damn, into the crab.

[15:41:43] See if we can find the perfect...

[15:41:45] I think we should...

[15:41:46] I think... are you destroying this?

[15:41:48] I don't know, by the way?

[15:41:49] He didn't add it to the tool.

[15:41:50] Yeah, passively.

[15:41:52] If you could do a little bit less than him, it would be nice.

[15:41:54] 10 game, but not here.

[15:41:55] Because if me and...

[15:41:56] Fush up.

[15:41:57] Because after the charge is done and the boss gets like...

[15:41:59] right for boss gets damaged, we want to send like our killer

[15:42:02] and we get more damage depending on how many...

[15:42:04] More on that one in the last phase?

[15:42:05] More like any... all of them, pretty much.

[15:42:07] All of them?

[15:42:08] Yeah.

[15:42:10] They creeped him with my soul rod, yeah, passively.

[15:42:13] But I thought they would be there.

[15:42:15] No, if someone else can probably do that.

[15:42:17] No, I can do that. I cannot press seat of corruption for example.

[15:42:22] I'll apply my...

[15:42:23] He's already one right?

[15:42:25] I think only the first in each phase matters really.

[15:42:28] Very sure this is...

[15:42:29] Like the dispel one, which is phase two, and the troll in the phase one.

[15:42:32] Yeah, but that's not really a big deal.

[15:42:34] It's the first of each.

[15:42:36] The main thing is it's like...

[15:42:38] Press seat of corruption and they will live a bit longer.

[15:42:41] I'll just try to tell you what it is.

[15:42:43] We'll see. You can try to help out and investigate.

[15:42:44] It's 8% mastery per adwits, so it's quite nice.

[15:42:47] But that's why sometimes you see...

[15:42:54] It might be a combination with the checkmark.

[15:42:56] It's like us doing the same thing together.

[15:43:08] Like Minigame maddened because I was bluffing on Paul and killing all the Zeds.

[15:43:13] That's when I came in.

[15:43:14] I'm sorry.

[15:43:22] I'm eating bacon chips right now with chopsticks, by the way.

[15:43:26] Tots?

[15:43:27] They always eat stuff with chopsticks.

[15:43:30] I don't wanna get them, I just washed my hands, I don't wanna get them dirty, so I'm eating with chopsticks right now.

[15:43:33] Chips.

[15:43:35] So goated.

[15:44:15] Believes we're gonna kill it.

[15:44:17] Before...

[15:44:19] kicks.

[15:44:20] Two carries, we kill it when we kill it.

[15:44:24] One goth.

[15:44:26] As usual it works when we kill a boss, they usually die when we kill it.

[15:44:30] Exactly.

[15:44:43] I'm so fucking ready to kill this boss to get Mithic's pie master in the vault.

[15:44:47] I think you're taking his pie master and he drops on the boss, I think I should take it.

[15:44:50] I see the bolt.

[15:44:52] Yeah, but I think from this boss.

[15:44:57] It's really different. I don't make it hard.

[15:45:02] Hope the left pull is like a thousand-foot risk.

[15:45:04] We can make it for another week or two.

[15:45:06] We're gonna get two Spine Masters.

[15:45:08] You take one, I take one.

[15:45:10] Yeah, I need it for all that.

[15:45:12] Just take off like Spine Masters, I'm giving.

[15:45:24] You know what's gonna drop?

[15:45:26] What?

[15:45:28] I don't know, I need to do...

[15:45:30] I need to do some stuff, and it's unusable.

[15:45:32] What are you gonna say it there will be there will be four times the tank case

[15:45:37] Trinket yeah I mean actually it's really good I would like to have it no

[15:45:41] There will be free spy masters and a brazer for me

[15:45:45] Hello welcome back to the stream oh my god I thought you were gonna say FATBOSSTV there

[15:46:16] Hello welcome to FATBOSSTV

[15:46:21] Hello welcome back to history in silkencore

[15:46:25] Don't stay underneath the group of the boss boss the rest of the human script on your face

[15:46:30] Don't go full clown car when you're sure what to do

[15:46:32] I would not do that

[15:46:33] I would not do that as we have indeed just come back from a little break there

[15:46:36] Little five minutes just have a little refresher after one of our very best pulls

[15:46:40] Followed up by one of our very worst pulls

[15:46:42] It looks like there is going to be a ready check going in on this boss

[15:46:45] As me and Mike are going to be with you for the next 10 or so minutes

[15:46:49] We didn't realize the time at all and we're actually being replaced

[15:46:53] Yes we are

[15:46:54] Rightfully so

[15:46:55] Yeah, I'm sorry, that's not too much.

[15:46:57] Yeah, so we are getting the last of the players in though, but yes, an excellent pull coming

[15:47:07] in from Echo where we managed to get the first stun out during phase three, and then the

[15:47:12] second grip did lead to a little bit of confusion, followed by panic.

[15:47:15] Yeah, we've got too much to do, we just bought some of them, they're all in the

[15:47:18] kitchen snacking every Chucky bar that's in there, in preparation for their lunch,

[15:47:23] which is in another hour and a half actually,

[15:47:25] they've got plenty of time to kill this

[15:47:26] before they hit dinner.

[15:47:28] So they're just wolfing all the bickies and chocky bars.

[15:47:31] And now I've got to be clear to Roger Brown,

[15:47:33] I am not the one stealing all the protein bars.

[15:47:35] That would be everybody else.

[15:47:37] Actually, well, I have seen your mic.

[15:47:39] We have got CCTV footage of you.

[15:47:40] I've had two of the potentially 70, I believe,

[15:47:43] protein bars where Roger came to me to blame me

[15:47:45] because I think everybody threw me under the bus.

[15:47:47] I was just about to throw you under the bus anyway.

[15:47:50] It's just a natural reaction.

[15:47:52] Why do you think that is?

[15:47:54] Because you're a psychopath, Alex.

[15:47:56] Yeah, well, it's certainly not my fault. That's all I know.

[15:47:58] It's the way I was raised.

[15:48:04] What do you think that the rest of their progress looks like?

[15:48:08] Is it going to be something where we're going to be getting a kill at any moment?

[15:48:12] We're going to be looking at 15% into 10% into 5%.

[15:48:16] I don't think that either. This is what you're going to see in the next 40 minutes when this dies.

[15:48:20] about 40 minutes. We're gonna see two scuff pulls. Yep. Decent pull into P3 to get back

[15:48:25] to the initial overlap, then wipe at that second one again. Two scuff pulls, decent pull back

[15:48:31] to phase 3 where they're gonna get over that hump and then they'll see the next overlap

[15:48:35] which they'll wipe horrendously to. It'll be so bad, guys. Then there'll be like four

[15:48:40] scuff pulls because they've nearly killed it. Wipe again to it. Five scuff pulls.

[15:48:45] Do it right once. Bloodlust is dead. That's happening in 40 minutes? Yeah, oh yeah,

[15:48:49] Because the scoff pools are in about 10 seconds.

[15:48:51] Oh right, we're talking about the group not being able to get into there.

[15:48:54] I'm talking not even get to into submission, just full crap.

[15:48:56] Not even getting their marks correctly, which didn't actually just happen.

[15:48:59] It's got a lot like an American Pie movie when they give someone some sort of diaretic and they just go...

[15:49:03] Oh no.

[15:49:04] It's going to go everywhere.

[15:49:06] Hopefully it doesn't happen on this pool though as we are jumping into pool number 148.

[15:49:12] I have full faith that this is going to be the kill, because I certainly hope it is,

[15:49:15] otherwise we're in trouble because he marries using the new engineering potion that you can basically

[15:49:20] throw intellect or main stat onto a group of five secrets i believe i think it's main set either

[15:49:26] agi or int or we've got jesse oh hey jesse hello hi jesse welcome thank you yeah i saw as we went

[15:49:35] to the cast room i saw you were doing analytics for the non-casters and you're all laughing at

[15:49:39] various players there's a full clown car there's a chance that i pulled up the replay and work

[15:49:44] have logs and put in slow motion the shenanigans that occurred where one person made a little mistake

[15:49:50] saying no names no we would never say any of the names but we could give hints i could give a hint

[15:49:56] yeah no no no but donation i'd be stop giving information out for free what is this a stream

[15:50:00] no it's true so if we do read that was my job at the desk if we reach 24,000

[15:50:07] absolutely should talk the hell out of somebody of your choice oh you donation gold

[15:50:14] I don't even think you can do on this fight either. There is a lot going on. It's very very scary. So mistakes, you know

[15:50:24] It's a little RNG as to who's gonna make them but mistakes do indeed happen is what it is

[15:50:29] We're gonna continue to push on through. What's up?

[15:50:32] I can't say I'll tell you because oh, no. Ah, here's the scuff ball. Nice memes dead. Resonatable. Yeah

[15:50:40] They're all gonna laugh at him. It's gonna be shambles

[15:50:42] There's still an orb up, still an orb up, there we go.

[15:50:46] There's not an orb up anymore.

[15:50:47] I wish I was re-leading orb, there you go, see?

[15:50:50] Ta-da!

[15:50:51] Okay, that pool didn't count.

[15:50:52] We still got time for one more, hold on.

[15:50:54] Let me check my phone.

[15:50:55] Okay, we have time for one more pool.

[15:50:56] All right, so that was the scuff one at the end before break.

[15:51:00] Yes.

[15:51:01] And this scuff one, this is a phase three.

[15:51:02] Okay, nice.

[15:51:03] So make sure you tune in.

[15:51:04] Any phase three, okay, I'm kind of mean.

[15:51:06] Oh, let me get the last two donations up.

[15:51:07] YouTube fascas are on our shift.

[15:51:08] Oh, very true.

[15:51:09] Actually, any of the donations that have come in,

[15:51:11] Thank you very much to everyone who has donated, of course, we're raising funds for games for

[15:51:15] love, an amazing charity that helps kids in hospitals gain access to entertainment and

[15:51:19] what not, as well as life saving care and developing countries, and supporting them afterwards.

[15:51:23] Yeah, Hybrid Panda, oh, get it Echo, you guys are great, the stream rocks, also Alex,

[15:51:29] proud of you, are absolutely lovely listening to you, takes me back.

[15:51:34] Damn, Panda dude, we need to talk at one point man, oh, I haven't spoken to

[15:51:39] having years! That's crazy! Oh no. Shaquille Toneal? That's a mistake! That's genius! Shaquille

[15:51:49] Toneal says, are you struggling with a tough phone? Remember, just keep your health above

[15:51:54] zero while lowering your enemies health to zero. It works every time. That is true.

[15:51:58] It's not true actually. Some bosses die early. Jane are proud more, but like a weird

[15:52:03] word. Damn. Idiot. Get told Shaquille Toneal.

[15:52:07] Final one before me and Alex a bid adieu

[15:52:10] To you is from daylight fall

[15:52:14] With twenty five dollars for games. Love. Thank you so much. Let's go team echo with love from team Canada

[15:52:20] Now my hose are right there nice to see you great course be raising money for I saw you guys get the last

[15:52:26] Yeah, I'm absolutely love with world first now. Keep on the great work drama time donation goal when I

[15:52:32] Would like to but I think it's inappropriate for the stream

[15:52:37] As you know, we would need to have a button that...

[15:52:40] It's not a swearing. I can do it without swearing. It's honestly the context of the stories.

[15:52:43] Well, if we use the bleep button for the majority of it so that we have no context. Just a few occasional words.

[15:52:52] If Echo's happy to do it, I can find a story that is stream suitable but is worthwhile. I am totally down to do that.

[15:52:58] Last drama time, I do co-op drama time while I'm here. Jordan joined me and she really cried.

[15:53:03] Oh!

[15:53:04] It was really dark.

[15:53:05] Oh dear.

[15:53:06] Oh man, oh we'll get actual drama time suggestion from production saying that we should get drama time stories from the Raiders here

[15:53:13] Yeah, that would probably be the next tier maybe yes

[15:53:16] I think I might need to do a little bit for that. That's a fun idea though. I like that

[15:53:20] I imagine a lot of people who are not familiar with drama time will be very very confused

[15:53:24] Yes

[15:53:25] What's going on in this is real

[15:53:27] Yeah, unfortunately it is

[15:53:30] It is real but they're pushing on here. We should be moving into the emission in a little while yet

[15:53:37] That I need you bar filling up is a good way of tracking when it's coming

[15:53:40] You can follow the energy that's going on as they're getting position here to cleave them down do these arms

[15:53:44] I'm gonna see some cool stuff from Fraggo and may bokeh here where they hold each other's hands

[15:53:48] They're little dragon e-tails and they move each other as he may be drags may bokeh into the web

[15:53:53] Oh, they web each other up and the may bokeh is gonna carry them over to the next area

[15:53:57] so that the evokers do not have to even bother with such trivial things like walking.

[15:54:02] Oh yeah, now they fly! You've got wings for a reason for sure. They're making full use of them.

[15:54:07] Of course the charge is also giving the rescues, excuse me, giving a huge amount of shield,

[15:54:12] which is very, very useful for the players that have the webs between them taking that

[15:54:15] ticking damage on top of the raid damage as well. It's pretty spicy.

[15:54:18] Yeah, as an evoker pro, I'm sorry, this is something I keep reminding myself while I'm

[15:54:22] on cast of research because evoker is actually something I'm not familiar with despite

[15:54:25] doing all the guides for World of Warcraft's classes for like 12 years they came a bit after my time

[15:54:29] for sure the scale mechanic i know it's called scale something that's why it's hidden scales

[15:54:34] that you can give to other players oh that is um i can't remember the exact name of it but that is

[15:54:39] from being an augmentation evoker you can increase the armor and also like put like a thorns like

[15:54:45] effect on your tank that's what it's normally put it on the tank for it and just keep it up

[15:54:49] it's like a freebie for physical hits yes i believe it's armor i don't think it's any other

[15:54:52] sort of damage reduction but anytime you pop your personal I don't know if this is true anymore

[15:54:56] but I assume that it still is basically you have a you have stances that are basically little auras

[15:55:01] one of them increase health one of them increase damage one of them increase movement speed excuse

[15:55:05] me um and anytime you pop your personal um it makes the health one proc and a little bit stronger

[15:55:12] so it's like a tiny little mini rally for the nearest five people uh very cute yeah now they've

[15:55:16] got loads of small things like that one of the reasons that they were so strong in um the

[15:55:22] in Mythic Class was because of the great amount of survivability they added to everyone else, as well as making it so they were doing tons of damage.

[15:55:29] I don't know how needed it is anymore, nor how much of that utility they have maintained into this expansion, but I know that they are certainly strong in that regard.

[15:55:37] But mainly in 5-man content, in raids, because it's not all raid bases, normally nearest 4 players and yourself, still strong, but maybe not as broken.

[15:55:44] Yep. I could notice here we have come full echo, by the way. They are not even bothering to heal the raid during massive portions of this fight now, because it's unnecessary.

[15:55:52] as we now got the stinging swarm out that's the dispel 50 you see them on the raid frames that show the number of who's going so you see

[15:55:58] Hopefully is next then yank up and may vocal will be the last person to stop this big boom

[15:56:04] You can see that week or in the middle of the screen at Caspar and they're gonna delay as long as possible

[15:56:08] Well, yeah, they certainly are because they want to make it so this phase are so long as big possibly can

[15:56:12] It's not like it was down at point one or anything terrifying

[15:56:15] But if you dispel late you stand the boss late which increases the overall duration that you're gonna be spending in this phase

[15:56:20] Any extra seconds you're getting here is extra damage you're doing on the boss

[15:56:23] It's extra seconds you don't need to spend in the last phase or at least maybe extra seconds away from the last phases in rage

[15:56:29] Yeah, we had in rage time and we've tried to explain it a few times, but each phase is its own timer

[15:56:34] It's individual and it begins like obviously from the pull you get that one and then the next what timer doesn't start until the

[15:56:40] Intermission ends so you can stay in that intermission

[15:56:44] Allow your cooldowns a little longer to reset without affecting the enraged time of the overall fight because that timer will not begin until they

[15:56:50] enter the final phase, phase 3, after the second intermission, then the fresh timer begins

[15:56:54] for when the fight will enrage. So they can delay it. They can even last long intermission.

[15:56:59] We've actually noticed they did do that a few pulls ago and they've stopped now. They're

[15:57:03] just not bothering.

[15:57:04] Yeah, obviously it doesn't feel like it's necessary, but I think they were mainly doing

[15:57:07] it for cooldowns of some sort, 0.4%. It's fine, I'm trying not to panic, but my

[15:57:12] heart hurts every time. As we have successfully gotten through the second and last web

[15:57:17] of this phase, the boss getting absolutely slapped down. We want to be looking at 45%

[15:57:22] leaving this phase, we're already on 46% so it's going to be definitely on pace damage-wise.

[15:57:27] We still have a lot of troubles to go through though in the last phase, so it's nice that

[15:57:31] we've made the damage check, it's looking about right.

[15:57:33] Yeah, high five, what, Xen?

[15:57:35] Yeah, in terms of the actual damage, the actual maneuvers that we need to make in

[15:57:40] the last phase, it's certainly a lot still to do.

[15:57:42] They've had a lot of trickiness with this in submission, as you can see that

[15:57:45] Cannex going down very quickly.

[15:57:47] It's actually, I think, if he died in an anchor.

[15:57:49] What's that Cannex?

[15:57:49] Either hit somebody or absorb too many orbs.

[15:57:51] One of the two.

[15:57:52] So there's the combat res going out onto Cannex now.

[15:57:54] Reves going incredibly low.

[15:57:56] They still haven't done this bit smoothly.

[15:57:59] It's always something.

[15:58:00] There is a little bit of maneuvering needed here.

[15:58:02] You can see the donuts that the boss spawns.

[15:58:03] Not nice.

[15:58:04] Yeah, they drop orbs.

[15:58:05] And you leave your orbs in a safe place,

[15:58:07] and then the donut takes up all that room,

[15:58:09] which causes you to delay getting your orb.

[15:58:10] They need to be grabbed quickly.

[15:58:12] But there's the shield down in 37 seconds.

[15:58:15] Ladies and gentlemen, we're back in phase three as I predicted.

[15:58:18] This is not cool.

[15:58:19] Then the fact that Mike has predicted this so well is off-putting.

[15:58:21] I've done this a few times.

[15:58:24] So the first overlap that we're mainly going to be looking at here

[15:58:27] is that the red team, after baiting a cone towards the side,

[15:58:31] they're going to be going directly behind the boss,

[15:58:33] and the blue team is just going to be saying where they are now.

[15:58:35] The idea is that we're going to be having a grip in,

[15:58:37] but instead of removing all of our webbing,

[15:58:39] we do need to keep some of them.

[15:58:40] So you're going to see the red team keeping their webbing

[15:58:43] whilst the blue team get rid of all of it.

[15:58:44] So here we are here comes the first web vortex.

[15:58:47] You can see the red team going in and they're all just running out to one side.

[15:58:50] Blue team is doing a similar thing, but they're looking to break their webs.

[15:58:53] They are going to have to return to go and soak the orbs around the edge of the room,

[15:58:56] which is very difficult whilst you have this ever increasing circle or decreasing.

[15:59:00] They should still be able to do it.

[15:59:01] They've got a little bit of time and they're now going to also be breaking the stun

[15:59:04] as it goes across. Excellent use of a spirit link there.

[15:59:09] But unfortunately losing three players.

[15:59:11] Jankov will be able to resurrect Fragome and Vokon.

[15:59:14] Unfortunately going down two of our red players, not the best, but not the worst.

[15:59:18] Nankin during the interesting, did not rank during the actual weakened phase.

[15:59:24] Oh, Narko unfortunately seeing if Velo wanted a hug.

[15:59:28] You want those grips on those scabs.

[15:59:30] Oh, no scabs in this nice phase though, which is nice.

[15:59:32] But unfortunately with the amount of orb set all over the place now I do

[15:59:36] believe this is the beginning of the end.

[15:59:38] a nice first web, but it just wasn't clean enough so that by the time the second grip

[15:59:45] was due to come in, we were really far behind. It'll be cool if we can get the Sun off on

[15:59:49] this, we've got a couple more dispels that we need to do. We've Zatzi left here. There

[15:59:54] we go, we did make sure Sun is, so this is going to be a new best which we should

[15:59:57] be happy about, but the raid is taking an incredible amount of damage through the

[15:59:59] unleashed swarm coming out from the new barash, whilst going into the sub 30s, which

[16:00:04] which is good to see, but at best, of course, being 28.9%.

[16:00:08] Looks like we're gonna basically reach that same point.

[16:00:10] It's the same point.

[16:00:12] It's not really the HP,

[16:00:13] but it's the actual mechanics of the boss mechanics

[16:00:17] that we're looking to overcome,

[16:00:18] because that one, they've actually,

[16:00:20] they need to get the next bit right,

[16:00:23] and then they can actually see some real prog.

[16:00:25] They are really close towards the end of this phase though,

[16:00:28] which is excellent to see,

[16:00:30] but it's one thing that me and Mike

[16:00:31] will have to see from the cast of ROOM

[16:00:34] As we are indeed going to be swapping out for the wonderful Jordan and the excellent Mr.

[16:00:40] Medicius.

[16:00:41] So we'll be passing over to them, but a big thank you from the both of us for sticking

[16:00:44] around.

[16:00:45] Do stick around even further, because there's some excellent probe coming your way and the

[16:00:48] boss is apparently going to die in 30 minutes, because Mike's now in Oracle.

[16:00:52] It will die in approximately 26 minutes.

[16:00:54] There we go.

[16:00:55] That's oddly specific.

[16:00:56] We'll hold you to it.

[16:00:58] Okay.

[16:00:59] Thanks guys.

[16:01:00] We'll be back in a bit.

[16:02:05] Good afternoon.

[16:02:06] we have had a little past the switch now you're stuck with us it's me okay mage and the lovely medic

[16:02:11] hello hello i'm hoping that my mic is unmuted in time for me to be able to talk but it wasn't

[16:02:19] it's still great to be here i saw the red switch flick over as i started talking

[16:02:24] sam and mitch a little bit late on the trigger finger as have been on some of these betrayals

[16:02:31] have you have you considered pushing the button yourself i mean that seems like a lot of effort

[16:02:36] Don't have to push the button myself with the LAC?

[16:02:38] I press the I-Style.

[16:02:39] At the LAC they have button pushers for you.

[16:02:41] Yep, they push my buttons.

[16:02:43] Someone when I cough comes in and says,

[16:02:45] Oh, you're about to cough. Presses the button.

[16:02:47] Oh no, for someone who doesn't mute their microphone

[16:02:50] when they take that headset off, Jesse,

[16:02:52] you are talking a lot of smack.

[16:02:53] I did in fact mute my microphone this morning when I took my headset off.

[16:02:55] Oh, so it's just with me?

[16:02:56] But then I played with it apparently.

[16:03:01] Sandler's very angry with me touching my microphone this morning.

[16:03:04] Well if you are tuning in for this afternoon, we are deep into Silkencourt progression. Liquid

[16:03:11] taking the cool for early hours of the morning, I think around 12am, just before the reset

[16:03:17] for them. So let's see if Echo can push on through and get the kill as well. It'd be

[16:03:21] very nice to add this boss's loot table to their weekly vaults potentially on reset

[16:03:28] which is looming tomorrow.

[16:03:29] Especially with things like spymasters web being in there. Like that is a huge

[16:03:33] bonus. I think fired up got one dropped yesterday which is really nice. I've had two drop which

[16:03:40] is not the optimal amount. I've got one for my time walking dungeons. I would have preferred

[16:03:48] a tier piece because I still only have one somehow but I also haven't used my catalyst.

[16:03:52] But this is very exciting. It's so nice to see the guild so close to each other.

[16:03:57] See one pull ahead and one boss, maybe another pull ahead and another boss in previous

[16:04:01] Rated you always see this but it always comes down to the final boss Queen answer act who has not been seen I

[16:04:09] Think liquid did samples off stream before the end of their week

[16:04:14] Just for all the reset testing out no doubts and we cause and getting other valuable information like timers

[16:04:20] Ready for their reset week to start so we will be seeing clean and sure

[16:04:27] In a couple of days

[16:04:31] I'll be honest kind of glad they haven't killed it because we were discussing what we would do if they just killed silken

[16:04:40] Court by the time we got on and they're just gonna go dark and they're just gonna do like some more splits

[16:04:45] They're gonna get there and pluses make sure everything sorted on that probably kill probably pull Queen answer a few times

[16:04:51] Offstream so I'm glad we have something to talk about. I'm glad we have some wow gameplay

[16:04:56] Otherwise, it would have been you and me podcasting, which I think would have been amazing before hours.

[16:05:02] It would have been great, but I am entering that stage of the day where I get slightly more loopy.

[16:05:06] I'm a morning person, Jordan. Not so much an evening person.

[16:05:09] I'm just always loopy.

[16:05:10] Yeah, that's true.

[16:05:11] Just no matter what.

[16:05:12] We would have been a loopy team together. It would have been great.

[16:05:15] Jesse is constantly looking at logs over there.

[16:05:17] Do you want us just to randomly ask you questions, Jesse, or are you looking for specific things?

[16:05:22] You can randomly ask me questions at any point when you have one.

[16:05:24] if I have something interesting I will thumbs up to let you know to cue me in.

[16:05:28] I uh yes. What's your favorite cheese? Uh corganzola. I already knew this. Actually there's a uh

[16:05:36] cheese discussions without me. We had a pizza topping discussion and Jesse said he wanted cheese

[16:05:40] and I said what type of cheese? And he said corganzola which doesn't predicate that it is

[16:05:43] your favorite but I kind of assumed in that moment. Yeah there's actually so there's one

[16:05:47] variety but that's even better which is a blend of a breed plus a corganzola called a

[16:05:52] can be so that which is

[16:05:56] extraordinarily nice. Very

[16:05:58] nice. Well, can recommend

[16:06:00] asking you questions that may

[16:06:02] or may not be relevant

[16:06:04] progress. They have been doing

[16:06:06] extremely well. They have had

[16:06:08] back to back progress pools and

[16:06:10] our best pool so far at 28.7%

[16:06:13] as well, seeing quite far into

[16:06:15] that phase three, which is very

[16:06:17] nice to see just losing their

[16:06:19] footing here and there. It's

[16:06:20] very particular once you get

[16:06:21] the blue team having to go over and collect the red team's orbs, the red team having to go over and collect the blue team's orbs.

[16:06:25] And then at the same time trying to stop the charge with the webs and everything else that's going on as well.

[16:06:30] They will have some really

[16:06:32] catchy overlaps in that last phase.

[16:06:35] And that's often what's killing them.

[16:06:36] I think the trail is the second highest death leader so far amongst the the raiders today.

[16:06:43] Sometimes it's a mistake from a raider where they're walking right when they should be walking left.

[16:06:48] Sometimes it is just those overlaps where you can't really go anywhere else

[16:06:51] So we'll have to keep our eyes on that you don't want blue and red to touch if you if you'd like I have an example of a betrayal

[16:06:57] Yeah epic proportions. I hit us. Let's pull it up on the screen. I've got it ready to go here

[16:07:02] I'm gonna play it in a little bit of slow motion as we are looking at a phase three pull where a cushion gets pulled into the middle

[16:07:15] That was that was in fact a betrayal

[16:07:17] I'm just going to assassinate both tanks.

[16:07:20] Yeah, so buy one, get one free on tanks today, apparently.

[16:07:23] That's a Tesco meal deal if I've ever seen one you get a kusha robin and a merizeta boot.

[16:07:30] Yeah, obviously going right and left can be tricky sometimes.

[16:07:33] I often have to do this to make sure I know which way I'm going.

[16:07:36] I had socks that had the L or the R and I had them on the wrong way around, so

[16:07:42] I didn't know what that was.

[16:07:44] R socks shaped in a way that you need the L.

[16:07:46] I had literally written just an L on one for the left foot and an R on the other one and I got laughed at because I had them still on the wrong way around.

[16:07:54] Yeah, that doesn't help if you can't tell which way.

[16:07:56] Yeah, it doesn't help at all. And also, in a situation where you need to tell your left and right, are you taking your shoes off and being like, ah, towards the right, my friends.

[16:08:06] Who is wearing shoes in the house?

[16:08:08] True.

[16:08:09] That is true.

[16:08:10] But you know the L trick, right? With your hands.

[16:08:13] Yeah.

[16:08:14] That's it, that's it.

[16:08:16] We love our strength cause we're here.

[16:08:19] I was just making signs at you Jesse.

[16:08:21] If you are cheating in, don't worry,

[16:08:22] they are taking a little bit of a break.

[16:08:23] You are not missing any actions.

[16:08:25] Unfortunately, you have to listen to us

[16:08:26] for a little bit longer.

[16:08:28] How are you feeling about this boss medic?

[16:08:30] I feel like it should have been dead a few hours ago.

[16:08:33] Gonna be honest, guys need to get it out.

[16:08:35] Pull it out of your pocket, just kill the boss.

[16:08:38] If we don't have people dying,

[16:08:39] the boss will go down.

[16:08:40] We have enough damage.

[16:08:41] So you're saying, if we kill the boss before we die, the boss dies.

[16:08:47] That is correct.

[16:08:49] Before we die.

[16:08:50] Yep, that is 100% correct.

[16:08:52] Yaaay!

[16:08:54] Do you guys have tooltips and loading screens in where you don't really?

[16:08:57] Yeah.

[16:08:59] Okay, do you? Because in League, quite often, it would be like you get a tooltip, and some of them are funny lore facts.

[16:09:05] But every now and again, there'll be one that says,

[16:09:07] you reduce your enemies Nexus to 0% before your Nexus is reduced to 0%.

[16:09:11] That comes up in the loading screens, and now we do have one that is very similar.

[16:09:15] Well, they should just do that.

[16:09:17] Yeah, well they're obviously not paying attention in the loading screens, are they?

[16:09:20] I was very surprised because we hit Brutewister and Nexus Princess Kaiveza

[16:09:26] and had a significant amount of pulls on bosses 5 and 6

[16:09:30] that I don't think anyone was really expecting.

[16:09:32] I think Kyveza racking up 300 pulls, Brute Twister in the 170 range.

[16:09:40] And then I feel like Silkencourt was a little bit quicker to progress.

[16:09:44] Yep.

[16:09:45] In terms of time and also pulls, which I was a little bit surprised by

[16:09:50] because on testing, a lot of people said that this was probably one of the

[16:09:54] hardest buses they've ever tested.

[16:09:55] And from looking at it and reading the dungeon journal, I was also thinking,

[16:09:59] this is a lot.

[16:10:01] It's gonna be very very challenging, but they are progressing it pretty smoothly. I didn't think it would take a lot longer than it has

[16:10:07] I think sorry with Jesse putting his thumb up there. I didn't see if you were I did but it's not urgent ever

[16:10:14] Oh, no go I thumbs up to say next time you have a gap in your conversation

[16:10:18] I could fill it if you want well, I only saw that at the corner of my eye

[16:10:22] So you really

[16:10:24] Jesse has something!

[16:10:26] Oh no, but quickly before Jesse talks!

[16:10:28] Good!

[16:10:29] That is the goal of the Thumbs Up!

[16:10:31] You finish your part and then...

[16:10:32] I also didn't know if it was like a tear!

[16:10:34] I saw hand motions from the right, you know?

[16:10:37] I didn't say anything...

[16:10:38] It is the right, right?

[16:10:39] You have from the right.

[16:10:40] No, the big thing I think is the difference between...

[16:10:44] Oh God!

[16:10:45] I'm going to restart the broadcast.

[16:10:51] Hello, welcome to the League of Legends World Champion!

[16:10:53] Oh, I messed it up again!

[16:10:55] Oh, that's tomorrow, isn't it?

[16:10:57] Anyway, welcome back to the rest of the world first.

[16:11:00] The big difference I think between Boo Twisted and things like Kvesa is Kvesa was a pure DPS

[16:11:05] check.

[16:11:06] It was a wall of a boss.

[16:11:07] The mechanics were relatively simple, but it was just dodge what's on the floor.

[16:11:11] When you have a fight like the Silken Court where the idea is choreographed and it's

[16:11:17] a dance, in the hour of PTR testing you get, you can't make the weak auras, you

[16:11:22] can't create this dance, the synchronization is always off.

[16:11:25] So it's like comparing playing DDR to doing a ballet, right?

[16:11:32] In a ballet, it can, when you start it, it looks really complicated, but as soon as you

[16:11:35] learn the moves, it's a bit simpler.

[16:11:38] Whereas with it, obviously ballet is still very difficult, right?

[16:11:40] But you have to learn the moves.

[16:11:42] Whereas with DDR, you're reacting to what's on the screen and interpreting it in the

[16:11:46] moment.

[16:11:47] So that's what I think Kvesa is.

[16:11:49] Whereas here, because they've sorted out their synchronization, it's a bit easier

[16:11:53] therefore top-level guilds to be able to do the same thing consistently.

[16:11:57] I think you're absolutely right, I think that's fantastic analogy actually,

[16:11:59] and it does almost look like a dance.

[16:12:01] A lot of these encounters do, especially Chai Vezza,

[16:12:03] when they're putting the portals in the right place,

[16:12:06] they're dashing the ads at that precise banana strat.

[16:12:10] It is very nice, and then even on this box,

[16:12:13] when they're elegantly going around in a circle,

[16:12:16] it is almost like they actually are dancing.

[16:12:19] It looks like a waltz. So one, two, three, one, two.

[16:12:21] Oh, that's a waltz, right? I think.

[16:12:22] Anyway, Jesse, what you got to say?

[16:12:24] I actually agree with you.

[16:12:25] I think that the three hard bosses thus far,

[16:12:27] you could characterize as Brutruster being a AUE DPS check,

[16:12:31] Kavez being a single target DPS check,

[16:12:33] and this particular fight being a coordination check,

[16:12:36] more than anything else.

[16:12:37] Scribe wishing that it was an RTS,

[16:12:39] and he could actually control everyone.

[16:12:40] I thought that where he wanted them to be.

[16:12:42] I was taking a look at our best pulls,

[16:12:44] of which we've had six in phase three

[16:12:46] in the recent couple of hours.

[16:12:48] And you were absolutely right.

[16:12:49] The vast majority of deaths are to betrayal, or an arrow of an orb.

[16:12:55] And there's two kinds of arrows of the orbs, either you soak too many, you get touched by

[16:12:57] death, or you soak two, and then someone else misses one, you get touched by death.

[16:13:01] That is over half of the first two deaths across all of those poles.

[16:13:05] The remainder deaths are two people standing in a A.E. circle that the beetle put out,

[16:13:10] and getting impaled, which kills you.

[16:13:12] And then two deaths in intermissions due to too much damage taken, insufficient

[16:13:16] healing, insufficient use of personalism, things like that.

[16:13:18] So still some Ancelay deaths, but by far the largest cause is movement, positioning and

[16:13:22] knowing exactly where to go after the grips, because if you have any hesitation there,

[16:13:27] you cause a betrayal death.

[16:13:28] Yeah, or two of them, if you're or three of them, cause you're only excelling in so

[16:13:33] many ways.

[16:13:34] Are you betraying yourself?

[16:13:36] I guess you are.

[16:13:37] You are indeed.

[16:13:38] Yeah.

[16:13:39] Interesting.

[16:13:40] It's worth it.

[16:13:41] It's worth it?

[16:13:42] To take down one of your duties?

[16:13:43] I'm getting there for the other team.

[16:13:44] I don't know.

[16:13:45] Are you team red or team blue?

[16:13:46] I am team blue, because crabs live in the ocean and that's blue.

[16:13:51] Ignore the color of the crab.

[16:13:56] I said blue first, and then I was like, wait crabs are red, how do I get out of this?

[16:14:02] Wait, hold on, what's this?

[16:14:04] Yeah, an orangey ready color.

[16:14:08] Can we get some pictures of crabs that aren't the ones that Sam drew incredibly wonderfully on the screen, please?

[16:14:12] I am so cute.

[16:14:13] We are still in a break but I think average color of spiders are they more bluish?

[16:14:20] More viola tea, I guess an average color of crabs more reddish. Yeah, okay, so I'm team I'm team red. All right

[16:14:27] I'll be team blue. You sure you've got a crabs rule t-shirt on a jumper on

[16:14:32] But it is also blue that is also yes again. I have a double agent here

[16:14:38] We've been scuppered by the what color is the ocean or what color is the crab debate?

[16:14:42] I have some I have some crab pictures on the analysis. That's because they look into this difficult question

[16:14:46] I just googled crabs

[16:14:51] Why is one got sunglasses on because it's cool

[16:14:53] Can we look up clean crabs because I see a lot of it's not lichen, but some sort of algae and

[16:15:01] Look, there's a whole white algae in the on that middle one. I'm pretty sure that's red under there

[16:15:05] Not a lot of right here. I prefer this one. Yeah, so do I that's the one I'm gonna get tattooed on me if we get to 40k

[16:15:12] Yeah, well, speaking of which, while they're not in a poll, we are raising money for games

[16:15:17] for love, providing distraction therapy to children in hospitals, giving them their childhood

[16:15:24] while suffering from terrible, terrible, terrible illnesses. And they also provide sponsorships

[16:15:29] and internships for them later on in life. If they've spent many years in hospital due

[16:15:33] to their illnesses, they can have the opportunity to get the education they may have missed

[16:15:38] out on. So it is a really amazing, wonderful cause. Explanation mark donate donate. I think in the chat

[16:15:45] to get a link to the Tiltify page. And you can contribute one dollar helps one child. So even

[16:15:52] if you will only contribute a dollar that will go very, very far. Yeah, really well. And if we

[16:15:58] even 3000 people in the chat right now contributed the dollar, you can also scroll down to the

[16:16:02] panel beneath the stream. If you want to find that link, we would hit the $25,000 goal to

[16:16:07] to have Raider portraits drawn by, I believe, I believe, we have Alex Ross in the building.

[16:16:13] He's actually preparing for this moment. I'm not sure who else is joining him in the Raider

[16:16:16] portrait, Gidj. No one else matters when Alex Ross is in the building. It's very true.

[16:16:20] It's like very true. Yeah, as we are going into the first

[16:16:24] pull of our shift and the first pull after their break.

[16:16:28] Quick, let's do all the cast of curses. Dead on my screen, no way this one messes

[16:16:31] up. I'm ready to be awed. What?

[16:16:33] Ready?

[16:16:34] I think that's the quickest I've ever cursed anything in the history of my casting career.

[16:17:11] Well, we got that out of the way.

[16:17:13] No way the next pull isn't the pull guys.

[16:17:16] Did they just not, were they not ready checked and they got Mark of Death immediately because

[16:17:22] they didn't soak a site?

[16:17:23] I don't know, I can't see.

[16:17:25] That...

[16:17:27] That's how I can see it, 0.1%.

[16:17:29] That pull ended to a betrayal.

[16:17:32] Biomedic!

[16:17:33] Four seconds into the pull!

[16:17:37] I love legal and along guys, I'd be making it up.

[16:17:40] That betrayal.

[16:17:42] Four seconds!

[16:17:44] They have to put on sprint to get from one circle to the other that fast.

[16:17:48] It's like they heard you.

[16:17:51] I can't breathe.

[16:17:52] So, first pull of our session coming.

[16:17:56] Alright, you're bad from talking! As we're going into another pull, they will need to

[16:18:01] assign themselves a colour, as this is the mythic mechanic. You have to deal with all

[16:18:06] of the things happening on Heroic, along with having half of your raid marked with

[16:18:11] blue orbs and half of your raid marked with the red orbs. You cannot go next to

[16:18:16] somebody with the opposite colour, otherwise you will kill each other. And, depending

[16:18:21] on the ability you'll also drop the orbs as you can see now so the blue team need to pick

[16:18:25] up red team's orbs, red team need to pick up blue team's orbs as well otherwise that

[16:18:30] deals a lot of damage out onto the raid. Unfortunately it looked like we had a few betrayals there

[16:18:35] where the opposite colours were going into each other so this again is a wipe and I'm

[16:18:39] still blaming you. Yeah that one was my fault as well I said nothing could go wrong

[16:18:42] on that one. This is like the ultimate cast of curse. Yeah I didn't realise I had

[16:18:45] that much power. Who are you working for? Well, team Liquid are in League of Legends

[16:18:50] That's good to say.

[16:18:51] Oh, it's awesome to see Fat Shot, yes, in the top five, actually.

[16:18:56] Very cool.

[16:18:57] Yes.

[16:18:58] I don't know who they are, but that is awesome.

[16:19:00] They've been running for a long, long time.

[16:19:02] Yeah.

[16:19:03] Old school guilds.

[16:19:04] Very well known as one of the older guilds that doesn't really indulge in a lot of

[16:19:08] the degeneracy around the top guilds, right?

[16:19:10] Fewer splits, fewer alts, evening hours.

[16:19:13] But they're like instant dollars.

[16:19:15] Yeah, okay.

[16:19:16] That's sort of the level of guild.

[16:19:18] We do still see the hot pot heroes sitting in fourth with 14 pulls on the silken core

[16:19:22] right now.

[16:19:23] I did ask and I believe that is the accurate translation from, it's like a, we were doing

[16:19:28] a mixture of like pinioning in English because we were saying Guaiguao heroes, but I believe

[16:19:32] that is the full translation.

[16:19:34] So that's what I'm going to be sticking with.

[16:19:36] And once again, apologies if I am getting that wrong, but I'm pretty sure I am correct.

[16:19:40] We're moving into another pool though.

[16:19:42] Seven seconds on the clock and perhaps a breakneck nine minutes for these raiders.

[16:19:47] have the damage the question is do they have the skills to avoid a betrayal in the silken

[16:19:52] court?

[16:19:53] Absolutely, we ideally want this dead before the reset but we still have many hours of play

[16:20:00] time, we have the rest of the evening and if they can get this boss down before reset

[16:20:06] tomorrow that will put them in very good shape with Liquid staying up a little bit

[16:20:10] late than usual last night to secure the kill before their reset today as well.

[16:20:16] Yeah, obviously like we will get into that reset a little bit earlier, they'll look for

[16:20:20] their vaults, they'll go through their splits if they have any, and then they have to start

[16:20:25] re-clering, and it's not going to be the easiest re-clering in the world, we have

[16:20:27] had some tough bosses, but with a little bit more gear, a little bit more stamina,

[16:20:31] it's going to be a lot more simple than it was in week one, so we're not expecting

[16:20:34] numbers to be in the hundreds, we're expecting them to be down, you know, 20s, 50s,

[16:20:39] the game. They're going to

[16:20:43] be able to get to the six C's

[16:20:45] depending on how easily these

[16:20:47] players can choreograph the

[16:20:48] dance all the way to the

[16:20:50] Silicon Court. As this men and

[16:20:51] comes down, you can see those

[16:20:53] orbs left behind by the red

[16:20:54] players. They will rotate

[16:20:56] clockwise around a new barrage

[16:20:57] is but to get to the other

[16:20:59] side. All their also be

[16:21:00] collected by the blue

[16:21:01] players and the red players

[16:21:02] will collect the blue orbs

[16:21:05] in kind. Yeah, and they're

[16:21:06] also trying to make sure

[16:21:07] that they're stacking the

[16:21:08] at this point, unfortunately, with the new, it's not a new brush, it is.

[16:21:12] To Kaj. To Kaj jumps around kind of randomly,

[16:21:15] so you can't always stack them, unfortunately,

[16:21:20] but they will try and get as much uptime on their cleave as possible

[16:21:23] as a new brush will be doing his main ability, which is a charge across the

[16:21:28] platform needed to be broken by these webs that are

[16:21:31] stretched out on mythic requiring four, three of them, apologies,

[16:21:35] as they are now taking increased damage, trying to get out as much as possible

[16:21:40] as this boss transitions based on timer, not health per cent.

[16:21:44] So any damage that they can knock off here is less likely to have to do in the final phase.

[16:21:48] Yeah, basically we see two cycles of each boss's mechanic in each phase.

[16:21:52] So phase one we see two charges, then we move into the intermission.

[16:21:55] Phase two we see two of the dispels, we have the dispel five times,

[16:21:58] then we move into the intermission.

[16:21:59] And then after we get out of phase the second intermission,

[16:22:02] we have a three minute timer before the hard in rage. Now the hard in rage is survivable for a

[16:22:08] little bit because basically both the bosses just start slapping the ever-loving hell out of people

[16:22:12] so you can tank it a little bit if you can keep your DPS alive or if you have both your tanks at

[16:22:17] that point. We've seen a couple of deaths here, Jinji fell down, Wolf went out as well and it's

[16:22:23] looking like it is likely to be another wipe. Yeah, struggling to find their feet a little

[16:22:27] a little bit. There has been a

[16:22:31] little bit of reprog for Echo

[16:22:33] today as there was a change to

[16:22:35] the boss. Uh last night for you.

[16:22:39] I think it came in at maybe 1130

[16:22:41] p.m. Uh the boss was fixed so

[16:22:44] they could no longer one tank,

[16:22:46] which is what they progressed

[16:22:47] with yesterday. The tank swap

[16:22:50] the tank buster was meant to

[16:22:53] not. I think it was this

[16:22:55] So Blizzard fixed that, and then to compensate for bringing one less DPS in the raid by bringing two tanks, there was a 5% boss HP nerf as well.

[16:23:04] So they had to change the strategy a little bit, bringing in the second tank as a necessity.

[16:23:09] But yeah, ideally we want to be seeing them getting later and later on, getting to the phase three, because they need to practice the overlap in phase three, that final overlap, the charge with the dispells.

[16:23:20] Both bosses taking double damage. That's where it's all going to come down to.

[16:23:23] Yeah, in essence the piercing strikes wasn't always going through death, which is a bug that was changed

[16:23:29] But also it now does a hundred percent increase damage a thousand percent increase damage

[16:23:32] Whereas it used to do a hundred percent increase damage. So what we were doing was we'd have I think the stacks fall off a little bit quicker now

[16:23:38] Jesse as well. Yeah, they changed it from a one minute duration to about a 30 second duration

[16:23:42] So you can easily alternate back and forth to make up for the thousand percent increase damage taken but that makes it

[16:23:48] You know

[16:23:49] Reliably two tankable in a way that it wasn't before when it was lasting a minute

[16:23:52] You couldn't reliably get rid of your stacks even with two tanks, so Echo said well, since we have to deal with multiple stacks, let's just see how far we can back up.

[16:23:58] And they were just having nice memes tank a shot and Nether rift away from it so that he didn't actually take damage from it and then allowed Meriz's tanks to fall off at the time.

[16:24:08] Now, two tanks, it is much more reliable. That mechanic isn't really what's killing anyone anymore, right? It's just you taunt, I taunt, you taunt, I taunt, you just switch it around between the two of you to make sure that you are dealing with that.

[16:24:21] killing us is betrayal and not managing to avoid these orbs or avoid each other at

[16:24:27] times. We'll see the first mechanic, the first big mechanic of phase one in

[16:24:32] discharge from Anubarash. You can see him charging it up. We've already lost two.

[16:24:35] That looks like it was a betrayal between Nice Memes and Fraggo and then

[16:24:38] everyone else will die. And I am slightly surprised that slamming your head

[16:24:43] into a wall at that velocity is enough of a shockwave to kill everyone in

[16:24:47] raid. I'm wondering what that would need to be on like a seismic chart for actually to kill everyone.

[16:24:53] Yeah because usually when I do that I just harm myself. Yeah and he doesn't take any damage when

[16:24:57] he does. I know it's just unreal. It's very strange to me. Big Trongus out here flattening

[16:25:01] his foes and we have another wife coming out. I'm sure the chat is already calling for the

[16:25:05] previous casters to come back on because they're last three pulls all in like the 30%.

[16:25:10] bring back Alex, bring back Mike, medic, war. Unfortunately we have sacrificed them to the greater

[16:25:18] good to summon the kill as you can see by the portraits. All the people we've killed today

[16:25:24] in blood sacrifices. Worthy sacrifice. It's just Jesse Jordan and I now still in the building. Jesse

[16:25:30] is a ghost so even though he's on this portrait his ghost is still with us on the desk but it

[16:25:35] But it was a worthy sacrifice for a worthy cause, otherwise how will they down the boss without this blood sacrifice?

[16:25:41] Sometimes you need to really commit to the bit.

[16:25:46] And that's what we did there. Just kept going with the blood sacrifice that has been laid on the altar of Queen Ancerek.

[16:25:53] Can we get to her today or is it going to be a Reclear and a Reset for Echo?

[16:25:59] With Liquid waking up soon, they will want to have this boss down by the time their NA opponents do rise out of their slumber

[16:26:08] With how the pools are going now

[16:26:09] We have had a few bad ones in a row

[16:26:11] But they were getting very consistent at getting through phase one getting into phase two and then trialing out phase three

[16:26:16] And they definitely have the damage if they can make it work for the first four five minutes of this fight

[16:26:22] The expectation is assuming no one dies that they can get through P3 as well

[16:26:28] but there are a lot of overlaps in that phase three. Both of the bosses doing the mechanics sometimes even at the same time

[16:26:34] which will increase your damage on them as well, which is great because when you stop them from managing to get the charge off

[16:26:40] or get that massive explosion off with the cataclysmic entropy, I think it is, with the spells,

[16:26:45] you can get that 100% damage buff,

[16:26:48] but you have to be able to stop them from doing it, which is always a bit tricky.

[16:26:52] Yeah, and they have been really clutch on those dispels as well.

[16:26:56] Well, we'll be inevitably get back into phase two,

[16:26:59] we're able to see it in action,

[16:27:00] but they have been delaying those dispels

[16:27:03] so that they are really squeezing all five out,

[16:27:07] just as the cast is about to go off.

[16:27:10] So they spend more time in that phase

[16:27:12] and try and go into the final phases

[16:27:15] with as less HP as possible,

[16:27:17] because on this fight,

[16:27:20] the combat kind of starts for the different phases

[16:27:24] when they go into it.

[16:27:25] So when they go into phase three,

[16:27:26] They have three minutes in phase three,

[16:27:28] so it doesn't necessarily matter

[16:27:30] boss percentage or the total combat timer.

[16:27:32] It starts when they enter phase three.

[16:27:34] So any damage that they can knock off

[16:27:36] in phase one, phase two, the intermissions,

[16:27:38] well, intermissions should break in a shield,

[16:27:39] but phase one and phase two,

[16:27:42] that is less damage that they have to bite through

[16:27:44] in the later phase as well.

[16:27:46] And you could almost knock off damage

[16:27:48] in the intermissions as well.

[16:27:49] We have seen some intermissions

[16:27:50] go a little bit longer and people are wondering,

[16:27:52] why don't they just take out the shield immediately?

[16:27:54] They're waiting for cooldowns.

[16:27:55] They want those cooldowns to be back up so that they can then pump out the damage during these 100% damage phases, 100% increased damage phases, that both the bosses have.

[16:28:03] So if you see an intermission go a little bit longer than you expected, usually it's three waves, that's likely what the players are doing, or they're just bad and forgot to DPS the boss.

[16:28:12] I'm gonna go with the first one, but it's up to you which one you decide.

[16:28:15] That's such an excellent point.

[16:28:16] That is very much the case because, you know, depending on what spec you're playing, your cooldown is gonna have a certain amount, uh, it's gonna have a certain time before it's back up.

[16:28:25] again some classes being two minutes, three minutes, one and a half minutes. So they can

[16:28:30] kind of spend a lot more time in the intermission while surviving of course because this is a lot

[16:28:36] of damage pulsing out across the entire raid then it allows them to time for the cooldowns

[16:28:42] to be available again ready to send when they need it aka you know the bosses vulnerable

[16:28:47] windows or just in general. Yeah and you see here the first intermission 48.7 seconds was

[16:28:52] how long it took to break Takaj's shield. We'll now see Takaj moving into her fates,

[16:28:58] the place where she dominates mostly and we'll see her mechanics. We're looking for dis-spells.

[16:29:02] So we have these grips in, break the webs, that's fine, as everyone just wants to get out of dodge

[16:29:07] and then soak the orbs of the other team who have just, I say the other team, the other side

[16:29:11] of the raid who have just been gripped in as well. In a moment we will get her dis-spells

[16:29:15] and then we'll see how much rice it has to prioritize, making sure the right people

[16:29:20] are being dispelled at the right time.

[16:29:22] Yep, as we have the final dispel now,

[16:29:25] just one remaining.

[16:29:26] You can see the big boom, the cast,

[16:29:28] three seconds left, two, one,

[16:29:30] and they're just gonna squeeze that last dispel

[16:29:33] to interrupt it at that very last second again

[16:29:35] to get as much uptime on the boss

[16:29:38] to extend this phase as long as possible.

[16:29:41] The more damage you can get out there as well, the better.

[16:29:43] Sanam is down right now.

[16:29:44] Combat wears up in 20 seconds.

[16:29:46] You can tell from the bottom right corner of your screen

[16:29:49] as combat has been 4 minutes 10 you get one every four and a half minutes in a fight so when we take

[16:29:55] over to 430 that number above it will go to one and you know we have a combat res available.

[16:29:59] Thana obviously very important to bring back up you want as much healing as possible in these

[16:30:04] fights but for now not too much raid damage going down obviously it can be very tricky as the

[16:30:10] pubs come out and velo falls as well so lacking that extra healer meant we couldn't

[16:30:15] really keep everyone topped up it's going to be Thana who is brought back and again we

[16:30:19] We see to couch teleporting to the middle.

[16:30:20] There's the big boom seven seconds on it.

[16:30:23] Yep, they have just the one more dispels.

[16:30:25] That's unfortunately when you lose a couple of healers

[16:30:28] maybe struggling with the dispels

[16:30:29] depending on how many you lose and when you lose them

[16:30:32] but they do successfully interrupt the big boom

[16:30:35] making the boss take increased amounts of damage

[16:30:38] trying to pump as much as possible

[16:30:40] with the boss on 44% that is absolutely incredible.

[16:30:44] I think that's in the line

[16:30:45] with some of their best pulls today.

[16:30:48] Yeah, it's really good, usually about 45.

[16:30:49] I do think actually Fago's playing Org or Dev,

[16:30:52] because he's got DPS thing on his side.

[16:30:53] So it is Orga Voker, so I misspoke on that,

[16:30:55] saying that he was a healer, apologies from my side.

[16:30:58] Now we see the donuts.

[16:30:59] This is the second intermission,

[16:31:00] and it has been causing some issues for Echo so far.

[16:31:03] You have to walk around, don't get hit by the donuts,

[16:31:05] because that will leave an impaling spike on the floor,

[16:31:07] which will do a lot of damage to people near it.

[16:31:09] They pick up the Org, they continue to rotate around,

[16:31:12] pulsing damage coming out from Anubarash as well.

[16:31:14] They're looking to break that shield.

[16:31:16] Once again, as that post comes out, Orbs are left.

[16:31:18] You see the cycle going round,

[16:31:20] but with Canucks and Velo down,

[16:31:21] I'm not sure how much longer we can continue this.

[16:31:23] With two down, they do still have the damage,

[16:31:25] but do they have the healing without Velo on the cards?

[16:31:29] Yeah, they are struggling a little bit,

[16:31:31] but they were taking super low,

[16:31:32] but they do successfully get out of the second intermission

[16:31:35] and now they start the third and final phase.

[16:31:39] We have three minutes now to get the bosses down.

[16:31:42] So they will be dragging the boss

[16:31:44] over to the corner of the room,

[16:31:45] trying to get as much cleave onto the bosses as possible as they share health, they can

[16:31:50] really shave off some HP here and they will have some serious overlaps to deal with as

[16:31:55] well.

[16:31:56] Also trying to bait that frontal out to the side to make sure it doesn't actually stop

[16:31:59] anyone from DTSing, you saw that web going towards the red group.

[16:32:01] Now that hug next to this wall to make the grip into orb soak even easier.

[16:32:07] You can get gripped, you go to the right and then you go round, pick up these

[16:32:10] orbs, get out of dodge, get out of that big circle.

[16:32:13] the other side the red can just go straight through and pick up your orbs making it much simpler

[16:32:17] than having to try and find out where the orbs are. Good first soak, still too dead, no res obviously

[16:32:23] for a few minutes time but this is good. They didn't get the webs out in time and that is a

[16:32:28] wipe for Echo but once again a phase three which is what we've liked. Yeah we want to see them

[16:32:34] getting into phase three it's not just possible as we're saying that's the prog point and there

[16:32:37] will be several overlaps in phase three where they will really need to find their feet. That

[16:32:42] very, very end point being the dispel with the charge at the same time. That's going to be really

[16:32:48] tricky to pull off as you get dragged in. You saw from even the first charge, if they get dragged in,

[16:32:53] they have to make sure they're not breaking the webs on the players that have to stop the charge

[16:32:58] while also picking up the other team's orbs, getting out of the way and then stopping the

[16:33:05] charge in at all at the same time, which while the other than Joe nuts are going

[16:33:11] out across the room is really, really tricky.

[16:33:14] Yeah, it really is very chaotic.

[16:33:16] And it's so easy for one person to blink away for one person to dash away.

[16:33:20] And then you just find out that you're that yard too far.

[16:33:23] The web's broken, snapped in half.

[16:33:25] There was a discussion earlier as to whether how can a web snap when it's

[16:33:29] stretched out that far, but also managed to stop an Uber rash.

[16:33:32] And I think people forgot about the ductility and malleability of metals because obviously the web isn't metal

[16:33:39] but ductility and malleability is the idea of being smacked. Can something be smashed into a sheet or can it be drawn out into a long rod?

[16:33:45] Right? I can't remember which round it is. I'm gonna say ductile is being drawn out into a rod and malleability is being smashed into a sheet.

[16:33:52] So I think these webs are moderately ductile but very malleable. That's what they get the strength from.

[16:33:57] And so if you draw it out too far it just snaps.

[16:33:59] Oh well, there you go.

[16:34:01] That's what I'm going to put out there.

[16:34:02] Noted.

[16:34:03] I also, I learned that in high school which is like 15 years ago, so I might be entirely

[16:34:08] incorrect on everything I just said.

[16:34:10] I trust everything you're saying.

[16:34:11] I appreciate that.

[16:34:12] I would never lie to us.

[16:34:13] Oh!

[16:34:14] Velo going the wrong way.

[16:34:15] You've got to go up the stairs mate.

[16:34:16] You're not going to brood twister anymore.

[16:34:17] I love this little run like...

[16:34:18] So it looks like it's sped up.

[16:34:23] It does look sped up.

[16:34:24] Well actually they do get a movement speed increase at the start of the raid, so

[16:34:27] could be why I don't know what that uh bluey

[16:34:32] yeah so at the start of what they were I think it's the start of the raid

[16:34:36] entrance off to the side I think it's an NPC that you can

[16:34:40] always buy every flight point uh professional enemy but you can click on

[16:34:44] I think it's an NPC and you will kind of drink a potion which increases your

[16:34:48] movement speed for two minutes maybe well for a duration of time

[16:34:53] I assume until you go into combat because otherwise otherwise

[16:34:56] There's some min-maxing right there, just like, it's so easy, the orbs are so easy, I just run around!

[16:35:02] Yeah, unfortunately most things get cancelled when you go into combat, and that is one of them.

[16:35:08] I was like, yes, that would be quite helpful in this fight, I imagine.

[16:35:12] It'd be incredibly legitimate.

[16:35:14] With the webs, and then dropping the orbs in a precise way, and then not going into the opposite team.

[16:35:20] I think for you and I, it might cause more harm than good.

[16:35:23] Oh yeah, we just do grooming around in circles.

[16:35:27] Speed racer. You put the one person with the web in the middle and you just try and run around the room as quickly as possible.

[16:35:33] But I think for people as precise as these players, it probably would work well.

[16:35:37] And we're back into another pool as we saw the release run back.

[16:35:40] The run of shame there for Velo and for Rison.

[16:35:45] He has to come back in and res everyone.

[16:35:47] And we move once again into phase one.

[16:35:50] one. Another good pull getting back into phase three is exactly what Echo wanted. The question is

[16:35:56] can they be consistent about it because we had a few missed pulls when we came back onto the

[16:36:01] Carthadusk. Yeah making sure they are dodging the frontal and also you'll see these ranged pairs

[16:36:08] out in position. They will be the ones that are collecting the webs and they'll be leaving

[16:36:13] orbs at range as well. So they've got a little buddy system happening with their little

[16:36:17] tether buddies and then we'll need to go out and pick the orbs as well as you will see they're now

[16:36:23] moving into their little body pairings breaking the web putting a tether on both of them as they

[16:36:28] do this little dance in a little circle to collect each other's orbs and then stretch the web to

[16:36:33] stop the charge. And you might wonder why sometimes the web seem much closer to where

[16:36:38] Nubirash is charging from and sometimes they seem much further away it's because they're trying

[16:36:42] to track where Takaj is going to be now here Takaj does just leap away so you can't get

[16:36:46] get that cleave damage off but often you'll want a new brush to end up where

[16:36:50] the scarabs are, those little ants that we keep seeing and where to carges so that

[16:36:54] you get so much damage later on then actually bring those webs forward because

[16:36:57] the car jumps into the middle of the room meaning that you can try and align

[16:37:01] some cleave damage. Yeah you can see the mage is kind of hugging each other

[16:37:05] here which is nice because when we decide to erratically blink out of

[16:37:09] mechanics we know we're always just gonna land on the other mage, it's the same color, easy.

[16:37:13] Yeah that is nice. I thought you were going to say it's nice because mages often don't have friends, so it's nice that they have someone.

[16:37:21] Yeah we need somebody. It's nice that you can see they ice block the venom that goes out which prevents an orb from going out but also prevents them from taking damage.

[16:37:31] So very nice little mid maxi thing they're doing is they're going to be stretching the tethers for the final time in phase one.

[16:37:36] stop in the charge. Boss has taken increased damage once again by awkward timings at 55

[16:37:41] seconds and 45 seconds I believe around there. But absolutely annihilating into the boss as we

[16:37:48] will be moving into the intermission in eight seconds. It's very nice how they've cleaned up

[16:37:53] this intermission moving around the boss in the little circle, the little merry-go-round.

[16:37:57] Yeah, just have to be consistent on it, right? Like Echo have had the damage probably

[16:38:00] for the last five hours. It's just about getting as many people alive as possible into

[16:38:05] to P3 and then doing the mechanics appropriately. And that sounds easy, and that's because it

[16:38:09] is. An Echo is just trolling you for content. I actually specifically asked Roger if he

[16:38:13] could wait until I was on the cast of Death to kill it. I don't know if he's been informed

[16:38:18] that I'm on the cast of Death now, but I hope that soon we will have the kill. And

[16:38:22] obviously Echo hoped that as well. They want some pulls on Ancerek overnight, or at

[16:38:26] least before the reset, so that they can get a little bit of practice in, maybe

[16:38:29] get some wee cores cooking, maybe have some strategy thoughts from Roger and from

[16:38:32] from the rest of the gang. For now though, the Silkencourt still stands in their way.

[16:38:37] We are working our way through this intermission. You can see 9% left on the shield, that bar

[16:38:41] in the middle of the screen that has that little grey bit remaining is the shield that

[16:38:45] Takaraj has on her. Expect it to be about 45 seconds or so between the start of this

[16:38:51] intermission and the end, actually moving a little bit closer to 50.

[16:38:54] Ooh, Kanet's taking the two orbs now, but the debuff running off. Absolutely fine.

[16:39:00] we go as we are now in phase two where they will have the five dispels. They need to make

[16:39:06] sure that they are dispelling that player when they are the closest target to the boss as

[16:39:10] it will move to the closest person. So even if somebody else is standing next to you,

[16:39:14] they may move to them instead. They need to coordinate that and make sure they're getting

[16:39:17] the dispels off as the boss is also dragging everybody in. They're also dropping orbs.

[16:39:21] It can be very scary.

[16:39:23] Canexus camera movement now I think implied I don't know which way left is at the

[16:39:26] moment because he was like just moving back moving forward and then realized

[16:39:30] right at the last moment that he had to step off over to the left now we see the

[16:39:34] big boom coming from Takaj expect the final dispel to be in the last half a

[16:39:38] second or so of this waiting two seconds or one second this spell just

[16:39:43] gets you more damage out it might look sketchy but that is purely about

[16:39:47] optimizing this damage window get more damage out before it then you get

[16:39:51] the increased a hundred percent extra damage on two Takaj during this

[16:39:53] face if you can group it up with a new barash as well you're doing that cleave at the same time so

[16:39:58] it's all about getting the bosses together maximizing your damage windows and then playing

[16:40:03] cleanly through the rest of the fight. Yeah it's nice to see how they've optimized that as well

[16:40:07] because it is a 12 second window so we're hopeful getting the PI from rice and then at that point

[16:40:13] as we unfortunately may have had a red gang member in the middle there just taking out all

[16:40:21] of the Blues. But you can see what the intent is, right? The team that gets gripped first

[16:40:26] spreads out left and right, spread away from the second team, the Blue team in this case,

[16:40:31] and then the Blue team goes through the middle, picks up the Orbs, right? The intent is very

[16:40:34] obvious. It just takes everyone to do it because if you're charging through and there's a single

[16:40:39] member of the opposite team there, you are all, it's just running into an explosion. You're

[16:40:43] just going straight to your death. Yeah, getting everybody out. It is very particular and also

[16:40:50] it's remembering in that chaotic second where you've got the opposite team near you, you've got

[16:40:57] orbs, you've got an in phase three for example, you're going to have many other things that it's

[16:41:02] overlapping, so it can be very difficult to find your feet and also orientate yourself the right way

[16:41:08] as well to make sure that okay if I'm facing that direction where am I going because it's not

[16:41:14] always going to be left depending on what you're facing right? Very true, very true and those

[16:41:18] of the few mistakes that we are seeing right now. It was clean until we got to that point though,

[16:41:23] and it looks like they know the strategy. This is what Echo does when they are confident

[16:41:28] on their strategy and know it's just execution. Pull after pull after pull after pull. It's what

[16:41:32] lots of teams do. Some teams will work out their strategy as they pull. So it's a, oh,

[16:41:37] we died to this thing. Let's work out how we do it while we're fighting the bosses, right?

[16:41:41] Where Echo tends to take a little bit more time outside, find the strategy and then say,

[16:41:45] Okay, now we're ready to just pull a bunch of times and make sure the strategy is working all right going into another pull

[16:41:50] Come on echo. We want to see some significant progress in phase three from the looks of the boss HP when going into the phase threes

[16:41:58] They have so much damage. They have been doing incredibly well

[16:42:02] So we just need to find our feet in that last phase get the progression on the positioning and get these bosses down

[16:42:09] Let's have a nice clean pull this time. Let's get into base three as we will be picking up the opposite teams orbs once again

[16:42:18] You know, it's very nice. There's a very clear visual and I noticed for the first time

[16:42:23] There's actually a sword. Yeah, it goes down towards the orb

[16:42:26] And I only noticed that for the first time the other day

[16:42:27] I didn't know there was a sword slowly dropping out of the air to show in

[16:42:32] Indicate when it was going to explode because again Blizzard usually wouldn't have that visual clarity within the base game

[16:42:39] Yeah, it's really cool. And we do see some weak orders for the players as well giving them the timings

[16:42:42] Obviously if you're doing it to such a precise level it makes sense to have that week or but I do like that sword mostly

[16:42:47] I like the reference to the sort of Damocles, you know like dangling over the head. Oh, we're gonna die

[16:42:52] You know die

[16:42:54] Yeah, it's it's been a very difficult but very intriguing and I've really fun fight to watch so far

[16:43:01] I think Jesse might have something to bring to us, but we'll see how well this pool goes for now

[16:43:06] now, 85% on the boss. There is one other option, by the way, as opposed to having to deal with

[16:43:11] P3, which is just kill the boss before they get there. You just need to find about 45%

[16:43:15] damage out of somewhere, which is always, you know, not possible. But if you could do

[16:43:20] it, it would be very interesting. Yeah, you can see that your mage is ice blocking

[16:43:25] the Venom Pulse. They don't spawn their orb and also don't take that damage. Stretching

[16:43:31] the tethers for the final charge, going across the platform, making the boss take increased

[16:43:37] damage.

[16:43:38] Alright, people are taking out a little bit, but that's fine.

[16:43:41] Not a huge amount of raid damage happening right now, so this is one of those positions

[16:43:45] where as a healer you're saying, it's fine guys, we will get you topped, but there's

[16:43:49] nothing emergent right now.

[16:43:51] We don't have to triage you and don't have to, you know, put you into a CAT scan,

[16:43:55] don't have to put, you know, IV fluids into you.

[16:43:57] We can just accept that a slow trickle is going to be enough.

[16:44:00] Now we move into the first intermission, this is where we'll see both the groups of red and

[16:44:04] blue group up, slowly rotate, it actually looks like anti-clockwise round the boss this time.

[16:44:10] We have seen them going clockwise before. I wonder if that's just to do with where the

[16:44:13] first web positioning is because it is slightly random, so you just want to start moving

[16:44:18] in the right direction to make sure that you can get across to the orbs in time,

[16:44:22] don't want to be blocked off by any of those exploding webs.

[16:44:24] Yeah, and it can be very easy to get left behind. You can see sometimes if a player

[16:44:29] kind of falls behind they have to cross so much distance and they need to make sure they're

[16:44:33] getting there to take the orbs as well. We do unfortunately lose one gamer no combat res

[16:44:40] available. Actually lost two hopefuls down as well as kush. Okay so we do have two gamers down

[16:44:47] but we still might be able to see some progression perhaps I mean we still have a long way to go

[16:44:53] before we get into phase three. It is one person from the blue tower, now it's Narko as well.

[16:44:59] Yeah, okay now we're like, because the thing is it's not like Nexus Princess Kivesa where if you

[16:45:04] lose somebody you know that it's a guaranteed wipe because you can't necessarily make the DPS check.

[16:45:10] At least early on into progression that was the case and you saw a lot of times if they lost

[16:45:14] even one person it was kind of like okay let's just wipe and go again. But there is still

[16:45:19] much to be learned in a fight like this.

[16:45:23] And just mechanics to be practiced, right? I think especially the charge through and

[16:45:26] the the splits on these grasps is super important for these

[16:45:30] these raiders to practice because that is where we're seeing a lot of our P3

[16:45:33] deaths and obviously there are more mechanics in P3 but the more you

[16:45:36] practice something at a simpler in inverted commons

[16:45:39] levels the easier it is later on. Oh my god every time they dispel

[16:45:44] that fifth and final dispel it is so close from that

[16:45:49] cast going off. It gives me anxiety. I am the same. I was the same when we had a 10% on

[16:45:55] Kybeza over and over again. Anytime anyone dropped blood, I was like, oh my goodness,

[16:45:59] someone is going to die here. Oh yeah, with the health bars ticking. Yeah,

[16:46:04] getting very scary if they reach that 10% on Kybeza. Absolutely. All right, they are now getting

[16:46:09] pulled in, leaving orbs behind. Need to make sure they are moving away so they don't

[16:46:14] don't collide with the opposite group while taking their orbs as well. We have the adds

[16:46:20] coming in and the dispels going out. They have very much coordinated a lot of their utility

[16:46:25] as well, getting the grips in for example, stacking them up nicely under the boss so they can

[16:46:29] possibly die due to cleave. As we have the big boom coming in, we have the fifth and

[16:46:35] final dispel. As you can see they dispel it with oooooh.

[16:46:39] They lost their stack. You only have 10 seconds to get the next to spell up and the second to spell expired before the third one was dispelled.

[16:46:47] So the week where it said number 5 is getting dispelled, but it had already been screwed because it hadn't left the bus left anymore.

[16:46:54] That makes sense. Jesse, you had something for us.

[16:46:57] Yeah. You were talking about that overlap at around 4 minutes and 20 seconds into the fight where one group gets pulled in and then another group gets pulled in.

[16:47:04] I have a quick illustration of what's going on there if you would like. I've got it up on OBS.

[16:47:08] This is a poll where it went correctly, but as you can see they pre-position for the grip one group randomly

[16:47:14] Which one that's chosen gets pulled in and it's very important that they consistently go correctly to not intercept the other group

[16:47:21] I thought you said you had an example where it works. I had the wrong tab

[16:47:25] Here's one where it worked

[16:47:27] They get pulled in they run up and down the other one gets pulled in they're supposed to go left and right

[16:47:32] The thing is is that because she can pick either group whether or not it matters

[16:47:36] Which way you run depends on which group you're in in this situation. We had the the group that well cush was in

[16:47:44] It didn't matter which way they ran

[16:47:46] Because they were the second group in this poll the one that just happened a couple of polls ago

[16:47:50] Where we lost everyone it did matter because they were first and a couple people went the wrong way

[16:47:54] Intercepting everyone as they got pulled in yeah

[16:47:57] So you have a couple of seconds

[16:47:58] You see how fast that is a couple of seconds to react to which group is getting gripped first to know is it crucial?

[16:48:03] That I go correctly left to right or does it not matter of course building the habit of always going the right way is better than having to

[16:48:09] Determine whether it is important pull by pull, but it is very fast-paced mechanic

[16:48:14] And that is why they're occasionally messing that up. That's understandable

[16:48:17] But it is one of those things that scribe will be saying hey guys. This is this is not acceptable

[16:48:23] Unexceptible mistake to be making right now like Jesse talks about the echo yellow card the echo red card

[16:48:28] I feel this is an echo red card

[16:48:33] Just like you can bring your gavel out as well.

[16:48:36] Yep.

[16:48:37] Justice Jordan.

[16:48:39] That would be a great TV show.

[16:48:41] Ooh.

[16:48:42] Yeah, it would be like, uh, what was I talking about earlier?

[16:48:46] What's it?

[16:48:48] I'd be like, preachers, drama time, we can all be justice.

[16:48:51] Although everybody just says guilty anyway, no matter what.

[16:48:54] Drama time will start and everyone just spams guilty no matter what.

[16:48:57] Oh, it's me.

[16:48:58] It's me, I'm sorry.

[16:48:59] I spammed guilty.

[16:49:00] I'm problem, I'm problem.

[16:49:01] We are getting into another pull and we'll see how far the raiders can get off this one

[16:49:06] I do also want to thank you all for your continued donations to games for love

[16:49:10] It is incredible work

[16:49:11] You're all doing and just amazing stuff you're doing for all the children and for that charity now fun tool comes out

[16:49:17] We dodge it nice simple keep tanking mirrors. You're doing a great job

[16:49:22] After this we'll see those venoms coming down those big bombs and that will leave orbs behind now

[16:49:27] Now this mechanic doesn't exist in phase 3 because it would be too difficult to deal with also having these orbs.

[16:49:34] So this phase and second phase is the only time you'll see this.

[16:49:37] In fact I don't even think you see it in the second phase because that's mostly the dispel happening.

[16:49:42] But there we are all the orb soaked, no one dead yet.

[16:49:44] Do we have three webs?

[16:49:46] The most important question of the day.

[16:49:48] Someone's going to get hit by the charge.

[16:49:51] Okay, just out of range we do have the three webs and there's the increased damage.

[16:49:55] 100% damage increase for 12 seconds on a new barrage, but damage not really something that echo have been lacking today

[16:50:02] No, they have been doing incredibly well getting to when they have got to phase three the boss has been so

[16:50:09] Low, I think this is gonna be a we need to get to that point with everybody alive

[16:50:14] We also need to execute our tight tight positioning well, and that's it

[16:50:18] The boss is I think gonna be dead and that's just because of how much damage they are doing

[16:50:24] especially when you see side-by-side, for example, any of the other teams, the boss HP that they've gone into phase 3 with is very similar, if not even a few percentage better.

[16:50:36] So they have the damage, they just need the execution now.

[16:50:40] see a couple of blue orbs sitting behind the red melees there they'll be soaked

[16:50:44] we saw the double rescue strategy coming out from the evokas basically

[16:50:49] Fraggle will rescue an evoker, Mace Deen onto him, Mace Deen will then rescue him

[16:50:53] to the other side they'll keep the webs on while doing that and then they

[16:50:56] can make sure they spread that web across the twin guardians passive from

[16:51:00] that rescue as well doing a lot of work giving you each a 30% max HP shield

[16:51:04] which deals with some of the dot coming out and makes it a little bit

[16:51:07] easier for the healers to deal with. We saw those webs being stopped, saw the damage coming

[16:51:13] out as well. Now the pre-spread for intermission one is to Khaj. Take centre stage.

[16:51:18] Absolutely. We have the few teams that ranged. We have ranged gang and then we have everybody

[16:51:23] else in melee. So can the other teams orbs as they are running around the boss? Clockwise

[16:51:30] and anti-clockwise. See what they did there was really, really excellent because they

[16:51:35] They placed the orbs into the web that was going off first, so that by the time the other

[16:51:40] team got there, they had the ability to soak.

[16:51:44] So they moved backwards, place it, and then that allowed the other team to just soak in

[16:51:49] peace.

[16:51:50] That was really, really nice.

[16:51:51] Is these little things that are going to be very considerable throughout the fight?

[16:51:54] Yeah, it's all those micro adjustments that can really get you the kill on a fight

[16:51:58] like this.

[16:51:59] We have used our res and Viscen's dead, so we'll see if we can survive with only

[16:52:02] three healers for the moment through the intermission. There are pulses of damage, but if no one's

[16:52:07] standing in those webs while they explode, you should be able to survive it. We'll move

[16:52:11] on a minute and a half before the next combat res is up, so we're going to have to deal

[16:52:15] with not having Ryzen for a while. We'll move towards the second phase, which includes

[16:52:20] those dispels. Already we see the front of coming out. Here's some strike on the

[16:52:24] tank as well.

[16:52:25] Yeah, we'll have just over a minute for our next combat res, and we'll be able

[16:52:30] to get rice and up as we have the first round of dispels going out now. You get this visual

[16:52:37] on your screen, see this kind of like swarm around the edges of your screen just so you

[16:52:43] know that you have the dispel. Again, another thing that visitors added so that you definitely

[16:52:47] know that you have the dispel on you because I know anybody who may not have played WoW

[16:52:53] for a while may never played WoW at all. There is so much happening on screen. You

[16:52:57] overloaded with information so having these additional visuals just to tell you

[16:53:01] hey you have the important dispel is wonderful and I will keep saying that I

[16:53:06] will keep commenting on it because I really like the steps that Blizzard have

[16:53:09] made to increase visual clarity more of that I want to use the base game to

[16:53:13] determine these things as opposed to relying on external visuals for example

[16:53:18] week horrors even though week horrors are allowed right we can have add-ons

[16:53:21] in while so even though you may see players have additional week horrors

[16:53:24] just to make sure that they know. Oh, okay, we have the first group getting

[16:53:28] dragged in. Yeah, they move out. The second group comes across. They'll break their

[16:53:31] webs as well. Then we'll move on to the next dispel phase. Totally agree with you.

[16:53:35] Didn't know what that was for the first time I got it and assumed it was just

[16:53:39] a cool effect happening on my screen. So I kind of wiped my raid as nice means

[16:53:42] goes down. The combat res is out on rice and no one can survive without nice

[16:53:45] means for a while. As we've said a few times, CPS check, not the most vital.

[16:53:50] Big boom in five seconds time. They usually dispel this with about half

[16:53:54] second left to go and they get the dispel off just in time. So now both the bosses stack 100%

[16:53:59] increased damage to Takaj, but you're also cleaving onto Anubu Ash. This is a huge damage window

[16:54:05] and hopefully going into Intermission 2, we're about 45% done. Yeah, which they are most

[16:54:12] definitely making as the boss is just on 45% going into Intermission number two and then

[16:54:21] this intermission they will have to deal with these earthen rings going out across the platform

[16:54:28] have also been calling them doughnuts as well while also taking the other teams orbs making sure

[16:54:34] that they are collected up but by the opposite team yeah big problem here though we've already

[16:54:39] lost two members and they're both from the same orb group which makes it even harder for you to

[16:54:43] tank these orbs up because the orbs aren't just orbs on the floor they give you a debuff and

[16:54:47] if you hit three you explode you die you are out of the raid so you want that debuff to expire

[16:54:53] before you can pick up the next one but if you have two people dead from the same group

[16:54:56] there are more obviously picked up per person. Velo also going down alongside nice memes and

[16:55:01] Revvers no combat rat is available for us we're gonna last just for progression here

[16:55:06] more than anything else yeah which makes a lot of sense yeah usually you've lost during the

[16:55:11] 200 damage window you have near the end of this fight because you have both the bosses

[16:55:15] who have done their major mechanic, the charge and the dispels, but here just lost thing to make

[16:55:20] sure we can get a little bit further into P3 and practice this phase a little bit.

[16:55:24] Yes, okay, so in this phase you'll have both of the bosses abilities available. You will have the

[16:55:30] charge from phase one from a new brush and you will also have the dispels from...

[16:55:36] Tocage.

[16:55:36] Tocage. I don't know why I struggle with that every single time.

[16:55:39] They will get dragged in making sure that they are also running out and breaking the

[16:55:43] the webs if you have to, but the certain players who need to break or interrupt the charge,

[16:55:48] keeping them as we have charge number one in P3.

[16:55:52] There's three webs there.

[16:55:53] Yep, three webs.

[16:55:54] We'll wind up all of the orbs absorbed, now taking increased damage.

[16:55:58] Again, we have three minutes in this phase.

[16:56:01] It is a race against time, trying to get as much damage into these vulnerable windows

[16:56:06] as they possibly can, and now we will have the dispels to deal with.

[16:56:11] They'll have one more grip, one group getting dragged in, making sure that they are getting out nicely.

[16:56:17] There was a betrayal there. Narko and Robin falling at the same time. That's mean we have six dead now.

[16:56:24] The tether's broken, but I wonder if we'll be able to get rid of the charge. The spell's coming out.

[16:56:29] I think...hopeful. Even with the ice ball, can you get in range in time?

[16:56:33] He'll get there, will he be? Do they have a dispel? Is the real question for him.

[16:56:37] You can see he's already got rid of a bunch of them. I think it's all removed.

[16:56:39] to get the final to spell out.

[16:56:43] Yeah, everybody taking so much

[16:56:46] damage from the swarm and it

[16:56:48] can spiral very, very quickly,

[16:56:50] but this is what you want to

[16:56:52] see. You want to see them getting

[16:56:54] into phase three. We need to

[16:56:56] reach this progress point. We

[16:56:58] need to find our feet in this

[16:57:00] final phase. This is a

[16:57:02] wonderful Paul from Echo.

[16:57:04] Unfortunately, this will be

[16:57:06] a white but maybe we can get

[16:57:08] Maybe we can get a little bit of a new best pull and squeeze out some extra damage.

[16:57:12] Yeah, you need 0.2% if they can get 0.2% more.

[16:57:16] I believe in you, Frago.

[16:57:19] Use unklicks for the progress.

[16:57:21] I need to top the meters on a wipe to look good in front of my guild.

[16:57:27] It's important.

[16:57:28] It is a new best by 0.2%.

[16:57:30] We did it!

[16:57:32] And there we are, basically done now.

[16:57:34] Any pull.

[16:57:35] Any pull really feels like the one.

[16:57:37] we just need people not to be dead

[16:57:38] as we get into that final phase.

[16:57:40] Yeah, we need to get there cleanly.

[16:57:42] We need to make sure that we are learning

[16:57:44] that final overlap as well,

[16:57:46] the dispels along with the charge,

[16:57:49] that final, final act in phase three

[16:57:52] where then both bosses will be taking double damage

[16:57:56] and making sure that they are finishing them off

[16:57:58] as they are on a very tight time limit.

[16:58:02] Three minutes is not,

[16:58:03] and it's not, there's not much time in that final phase.

[16:58:06] Yeah, it's one of those weird ones where three minutes feels really short and I'm sure as

[16:58:11] you're playing it, it feels like an absolute age.

[16:58:13] You're dodging so many things, there's so much going on.

[16:58:16] The important thing is you do have those damage windows, right?

[16:58:19] You have the individual mechanics from both the bosses and then you have the double big

[16:58:22] mechanic at the end.

[16:58:23] So you have two 100% damage amp windows and a 200% damage amp window, although I

[16:58:29] guess technically, if you want to be really mathematical about it, it's two 100% damage

[16:58:34] and windows because they're separate bosses, so you're not actually...

[16:58:37] Anyway, basically a 200% damage and window at the end.

[16:58:42] And Ekko are getting closer, you know, that's a good P3 pull,

[16:58:45] and it's a new PB, 28.5, but still consistency is key,

[16:58:52] and keeping people alive through the second intermission

[16:58:55] is what it's all about here for the Raiders.

[16:58:58] Yes, we've got enough to come on, more P3, let's go.

[16:59:01] We can do this. Come on! I'm so... I'm very excited. I've been on the edge of my seat all day today.

[16:59:07] Yeah. I'm sure most people at home have been as well.

[16:59:10] It's kind of, it's an interesting one because if you're that pumped for that long,

[16:59:15] you can kind of hit a like a valley with it as well, especially since it's not the last boss.

[16:59:19] There's this degree of like, we still have a whole another thing to go. We have reset coming

[16:59:24] in tomorrow. For Echo, for the morale of the players, this would be huge. But if they don't

[16:59:29] kill the Silkencourt today. It's also not the end of the world. You still have tomorrow reset,

[16:59:33] you have Reclay, you have all of that time to get back to this stage and you can try and match

[16:59:37] Liquid through that, right? The expectation is Ancerek isn't going down till at least Friday,

[16:59:43] probably Saturday or Sunday, which does make me a little bit sad because I'm not going to be here.

[16:59:46] I've been watching intently from the castarum at the Et World. But yeah, I think obviously

[16:59:54] people can look at the reset and say well if they reset and and liquid a one

[16:59:59] kill ahead they should win. That's not really the case. It all comes back to how

[17:00:04] well you re-clear and then how hard answer it is because she could be basically

[17:00:10] impossible and we're waiting even for a second reset depending on the numbers.

[17:00:13] Yeah that's a really good point. There are so many people who haven't

[17:00:16] necessarily watched many races. This might be their first race as well. It by

[17:00:20] no means is kind of over at any point even if a guild pulls ahead we've seen in

[17:00:26] the past you know Echo may have been ahead at one point Liquid pull it back on

[17:00:30] another boss Liquid can be ahead on one boss Echo pulling it back on another

[17:00:34] it really is all to play for until that final boss Echo taking much longer on

[17:00:41] Tindall in a Meadresil but managing to get frack down in the end and there

[17:00:47] There have been other Raiders as well where, like I said, one guild pulls ahead and the

[17:00:51] other one is a little bit behind, and then they go and they overtake them.

[17:00:55] So even if they don't, they will be missing out on the loot from this boss in their vaults.

[17:01:01] But by no means is that going to be make or break because Queen Ancerak, while it

[17:01:05] will be a very tight DPS check, no doubt, it's going to be a huge execution on top

[17:01:10] of that.

[17:01:11] And it's always playful once we get there.

[17:01:13] That's also the learning process of Anstrak, because you can read the dungeon journal as

[17:01:17] much as you want.

[17:01:18] That thing is an enigma wrapped in a puzzle.

[17:01:20] I have no idea what some of the mythomechanics are going to do on Anstrak.

[17:01:23] Yeah, I was trying to work out.

[17:01:26] What does this mean?

[17:01:27] How is this actually going to impact the fight?

[17:01:29] We will see exactly what it does.

[17:01:31] Obviously, you can also have the added bonus of a mythic phase if that does occur,

[17:01:35] unlikely to, depending on if you trust in data mining or if you trust in the

[17:01:38] law, perhaps more likely to.

[17:01:41] we all see, but we are nowhere near that point yet. The race is not over. If Echo do not clear

[17:01:45] this today in a similar vein, the race isn't over for liquid. If Echo do clear this today,

[17:01:50] we have a bit of a betrayal between Tanex and Zerwoke. So Rez Zerwoke is he's the one

[17:01:57] that does the damage of the two. I'm sorry, boomkin players. Tanex can stay dead for

[17:02:02] another three minutes. I'm not sure his damage is what will push us over the edge.

[17:02:06] Yeah, he's been doing so much damage to the

[17:02:09] scarabs, but there were absolutely popping off in the vulnerable windows.

[17:02:16] So, make sure we're getting them up ASAP.

[17:02:19] You can see huge damage coming out from Kush as well so far in this fight.

[17:02:22] 2.6 million DPS.

[17:02:25] And there were questions about this fight when we first saw the boss's HP bar.

[17:02:29] You know, it was 17.4 billion I think when Liquid first pulled it, then 17.1 billion.

[17:02:34] has been reduced a little bit as well because basically Blizzard didn't want people two tanking it,

[17:02:39] one tanking it, so they brought the bosses health down, said you guys need to two tank this,

[17:02:43] but we'll give you a little bit of bonus health for you to have to deal with. Now the players

[17:02:49] are doing a great job of getting through that DPS check, getting through that threshold,

[17:02:53] and as we constantly say, as I've been constantly saying since we got on the desk,

[17:02:57] it is no longer a DPS check boss. It is a mechanics check boss with a hard DPS threshold,

[17:03:03] but not in the same way that Kvesa was a hard DPS threshold.

[17:03:06] Yeah, because they still might be able to put it back, even with Cannex being dead here.

[17:03:11] They will have one and a half minutes for their next battle resids, battling it out in this first

[17:03:17] intermission as well, circling around the boss, making sure they are collecting up the other

[17:03:22] teams orbs and avoiding the webs that are exploding around the room as well as we successfully

[17:03:28] make our way into phase 2 now dealing with the dispells and also getting pulled towards

[17:03:35] the boss with the webs and making sure that they are not colliding with the enemy team.

[17:03:40] Pulling one group in at a time, selecting a different group every time, here we go we

[17:03:44] got team blue being pulled in first here and then team red dropping the orbs, circling

[17:03:50] back around collecting up those orbs making sure the dispell players are getting

[17:03:54] into position when it's their turn to be dispelled as well. We have four remaining, the second

[17:03:59] dispel going off.

[17:04:00] Looking for more here, you'll see that big dam coming onto the screen in just a moment.

[17:04:05] Ten seconds to get rid of those final dispells. Zerua, the last one I think. Oh no, it's

[17:04:11] Narco, and there we'll dispel him right at the final opportunity. So now just big

[17:04:17] damage across the two bosses, cleaving them down in the middle of the fight.

[17:04:21] to about 60% HP. We had to go through that Dispel mechanic once more in phase 2 and then

[17:04:26] we'll move to the second intermission. Usually you're aiming for about 46, 45, 44 HP when

[17:04:32] we move into that second intermission. So let's see how well Echo can reach that mark.

[17:04:38] Yeah, bosses on 57% as they will be dealing with the next drag.

[17:04:44] That was a tough squad.

[17:04:45] Not killing any... Oh!

[17:04:46] No one really went in the right direction. It was kind of just a scatter right

[17:04:50] But they do manage to get out. Importantly don't have to keep their webs here. In phase 3, 3 sets of players will need to keep their webs because Anubrash will charge after this webbind, being the fixate coming down.

[17:05:02] It's like we will be able to survive for the moment, but now with the Dispel as well. Big boom in 2, 1. Dispel in that last second means that that damage is going to come down once again.

[17:05:14] down once again the scarves being pulled back and they will be cleaved down amongst Takash and Anubarash.

[17:05:21] Alright 50% on the bosses here with the intermission in less than 10 seconds.

[17:05:26] Again trying to squeeze out as much time as they can. The res goes out has gone out on cannex

[17:05:31] as we're moving into intermission number two. Yeah 47% on the boss a little bit higher than

[17:05:37] you'd want but we have had cannex missing and obviously his damage will be impactful even

[17:05:42] if it's not the biggest damage in the raid. Now we have to avoid these doughnuts, pick

[17:05:45] up the orbs and make sure you're not getting hit by any of those doughnuts because you

[17:05:49] leave them in spiked behind you. You can see Mini and Cannex already dead alongside Mastin,

[17:05:54] so not the best start to intermission to here for Echo.

[17:05:58] Yeah, it is really tough because you have these rings shooting out across the platform

[17:06:03] but you also need to make sure that you are soaking these orbs in depending on the

[17:06:06] patterns as you can see right here. It is a very, very tight window when they

[17:06:09] have to soak the orbs you can see that one it's very very very tight to have to take it and then

[17:06:14] also dodge those rings at the same time as we are now going into the third and final phase six

[17:06:22] three minutes in this phase it's about nine minutes is when the emeritus will happen.

[17:06:27] Yeah I don't think this is the pool though we've already got the bloodlust down we've lost

[17:06:30] masty we've lost cannex we've lost many right in terms of damage this actually might even end

[17:06:35] up short if all of them survive because usually you want to use that bloodlust

[17:06:39] in the 200% damage amp window that we have later in phase three. This feels very much more like

[17:06:43] a prog lus to me where they're trying to deal with these mechanics. You can see on the swarm

[17:06:48] coming out and we'll then have the webs after this grip. So you need to keep three of these

[17:06:53] webs. Dodge, make sure you're not betraying any of your teammates. Looks like the dodges

[17:06:57] came off properly here. Need to go back and soak up those orbs, get the webs across as

[17:07:02] as well. The doughnuts also adding an extra layer of complexity. I don't think we have

[17:07:06] three webs there. Is that two or three? We'll see from this angle. The stop charge does

[17:07:09] get stopped. There's still three dead, still damage coming down from the raid. 100% increased

[17:07:14] on Anubarash right now, but now we'll have to carges mechanics where you have to deal

[17:07:18] with the dispel and then eventually we'll have both of them happening at the same

[17:07:22] time. Only three minutes from when we entered this phase before the Harden Rage.

[17:07:26] Yeah, they have two minutes remaining in this fight now as the dispels have

[17:07:30] gone out. I believe there we go. No, that was coming up a couple of

[17:07:34] seconds. Yeah. Dispel. You can see a big boom in 12 seconds time

[17:07:37] will be up now in 10. We've lost another nice memes has fallen

[17:07:41] joining mini canyx and Mastien on the floor. Look for that

[17:07:45] dispel one second left on it was removed in time but we're

[17:07:50] still losing players and I don't think with this many left

[17:07:52] alive, we will have the damage to take down the silken

[17:07:56] caught. Yeah, unfortunately,

[17:07:58] just lost a little bit of positioning there with the Jinji

[17:08:01] needing to get closer to the boss, having an army of red

[17:08:05] gang in the way, trying desperately to blink. Unfortunately,

[17:08:09] colliding with a red orb member when he landed. I mean, again,

[17:08:15] it's getting to three. It's incoherent stuff. We still have

[17:08:19] quite a lot of the raid left. Now, I don't think we've had

[17:08:22] too much progression on the final overlap, which will be the dispels and the charge.

[17:08:28] So this is still significant progress. We have the grip once again, and now we have the dispels

[17:08:34] and the charge happening while also dodging the rings, also soaking the opposite team's

[17:08:39] orbs. Are they going to have enough webs to stop this charge?

[17:08:43] We need it to ice block and we have a dispel sitting on the hopeful as well. We have

[17:08:47] enough. We stop the charge. Now we need to get the dispel down as well to make

[17:08:51] sure that cataclysmic entropy doesn't come through and you can see the

[17:08:54] difference between a well-executed p3 and a poorly executed p3 is the

[17:08:59] positioning of these two bosses. What you want is the webs posted to the

[17:09:02] car so then you can get that cleaving AoE damage during the 200% damage phase.

[17:09:08] We're unable to quite manage it there but if we have more people alive it's a

[17:09:12] lot easier to do. Yeah and they want to make sure that they're timing it

[17:09:16] so they're both vulnerable at the same time as well when you're popping all

[17:09:18] of your cooldowns in that final burst window. You want both bosses to be vulnerable, so you

[17:09:23] want to have the dispels have gone at that point. And you also want to make sure you

[17:09:26] have stopped the charge both at the same time, taking so much damage. And that's where

[17:09:30] we were seeing the bloodlust. But unfortunately, we did have to pop it for progress earlier

[17:09:34] on in the pool. But that was again, an excellent pull from Echo. We've want to see these

[17:09:38] phase three pulls very, very nice. A lot more consistent getting to that phase

[17:09:42] three as well. Jesse, you've got something for us. Yeah, on another note, a little

[17:09:46] bit of a frustration for a couple of the raiders, something that's kind of sliding

[17:09:49] under the radar, those scarab beetles which spawn with a large DR and rock

[17:09:52] around walking towards you trying to melee you. I pulled up a little bit of

[17:09:55] information because we had some unfortunate deaths to it recently. You can

[17:09:58] see the average scarab beetle melee is under a million damage, not a horrible

[17:10:03] thing when you're running on a 4 or 5. We have the gigachat scarab beetle 10

[17:10:08] from a couple pulls ago that spawned at 432, walked forward one yard and

[17:10:12] and crit, nice means, for 2.5 million damage.

[17:10:18] They appear to have about a 5% critical strike chance.

[17:10:23] And when that happens, someone gets erased.

[17:10:26] And I pulled up the replay here.

[17:10:27] They're actually soaking orbs as this beetle spawns.

[17:10:30] You're going to see nice means run down, collect some orbs,

[17:10:34] and then this beetle spawns at 434.

[17:10:36] There he is.

[17:10:37] He looks at nice means.

[17:10:39] Bam!

[17:10:40] That's how quickly it happened.

[17:10:41] Watch this again because it's very very fast. They have very long arms

[17:10:46] Two seconds after spawning walks forward one yard and just erases him from existence because he's ticking down from the box

[17:10:54] Why do they have a crit chance? That's a good question

[17:10:57] Like that's so mean

[17:11:00] That is crazy actually. Oh

[17:11:03] No a similar weird thing in League where it's not about like

[17:11:08] Jungle camps Chris's the Baron has a passive health regen even in combat

[17:11:13] So what will happen is if the server ticks over for baron's health regen and someone smite, smite is a

[17:11:19] Spell that does a flat amount of true damage to an objective, right?

[17:11:23] So if someone smites for one thousand two hundred damage

[17:11:26] When they smite the health could be below the threshold

[17:11:29] But then the baron ticks and it goes above the threshold and it's just the most troll thing I've seen in my life

[17:11:34] I just I don't understand why these sort of

[17:11:37] semi-RNG mechanics happen in a game like this because there's no way someone

[17:11:41] should have to track the possibility of a crit. Like, oh, this scarabito has hit

[17:11:46] 20 times so far, so actually they should have crit once. Let me go back through the

[17:11:50] locks and see if they crit once. You're very right because you know, if they

[17:11:53] wanted the melee hits to be a one shot, if they wanted that to be a mechanic

[17:11:57] for the players to play around, they would tune those melee hits to be a

[17:12:00] one shot, right? It shouldn't have a chance to one shot, even though they

[17:12:03] should or they shouldn't in my opinion and they don't which I think is fair

[17:12:07] enough because of everything that's going on in this fight. Ideally you don't

[17:12:10] want to be taking the extra damage but it shouldn't be a choice from taking a

[17:12:14] little bit of extra damage to be in a one shot. They already have a ramping effect

[17:12:17] as well like the longer they are alive they start to dodge CC, they have

[17:12:21] increased movement speed, they do more damage I think as well the longer

[17:12:24] they are fixated on you so they have that mechanic in the game with a way

[17:12:28] to play around it. It's strange to me to add in them and this is not me

[17:12:32] Like I'm not trying to be salty and say they would have cleared at that time if the scarab hadn't crit or anything

[17:12:36] It just seems like a weird mechanic to have in

[17:12:39] Where you're adding more randomness into what is a relatively

[17:12:44] choreographed telegraphed fight right like most of this fight is at this point

[17:12:49] This thing does this at this point this thing does this right at this point you get doughnuts at this point

[17:12:53] You get the spells so it's strange to me to add in almost the randomness of the the blades from caversa

[17:12:59] right where it's like oh the blades can be in a set a set amount of patterns yeah anyway yeah

[17:13:05] wait you know you might stand a little bit closer to the uh scarabs one pull and be fine and then the

[17:13:09] next pull you just get one shot one shot why not you've got to keep the braids on their toes you

[17:13:14] know making sure that they're scared from they're not even on their toes it's just like they're

[17:13:18] on the floor there's no there's no opportunity to be on your toes you're there and then you're

[17:13:23] We're not six feet under.

[17:13:25] Let's start another pull here for Echo.

[17:13:28] 170th pull, and this, I can sense it in the water.

[17:13:32] This is the one.

[17:13:34] It's gonna happen.

[17:13:35] I heavily agree.

[17:13:38] I predict the medic on the floor.

[17:13:40] I've already been on the floor once.

[17:13:41] That could be a prediction.

[17:13:42] I'm sure that is Chad's prediction.

[17:13:44] I'm not sure anyone has demonstrated

[17:13:45] the power of the castor course

[17:13:46] quite as convincingly as you have.

[17:13:48] Yeah, the full second cast of course is very impressive.

[17:13:50] my favourite moment of the entire race so far, personally.

[17:13:54] I still can't believe that happened.

[17:13:55] That may have beaten Pickles.

[17:13:57] Oh no, nothing beats Pickles.

[17:14:00] Or Hot Dogs last night as well.

[17:14:02] Okay, oh, okay, well yeah, it's doomed.

[17:14:04] Yeah, I wonder what happened there?

[17:14:05] Did we lose the partner?

[17:14:06] I think we just went too far away.

[17:14:07] Some of these raid frames are a little bit cursed.

[17:14:10] We had two mages go down, I think we had a betrayal.

[17:14:12] Okay, so Jinji must have touched something because Wolf was partnered with Jinji.

[17:14:17] Is he hopeful laughing here? So I wonder what happened?

[17:14:21] Is there any chance, I think we have hopeful on the replay.

[17:14:23] Is there any chance we can see what happened with hopeful?

[17:14:26] Having a little, having a little giggle here.

[17:14:28] Sam is having a mosey for us.

[17:14:29] Having a giggle.

[17:14:30] Having a giggle, mate.

[17:14:32] What are you doing laughing in my video game?

[17:14:34] You're having fun.

[17:14:36] Fun is not allowed.

[17:14:37] No, only kills.

[17:14:39] Well, there actually, there have been a lot of kills,

[17:14:41] so they have given us that.

[17:14:42] Oh, well, yeah.

[17:14:43] That's the word.

[17:14:44] That's fine.

[17:14:45] All right, let's try and see what happened there with the mages that made her full have a little chuckle

[17:14:51] They are raising everybody back up ready to go again. They have this little device. Oh, here we go. It's replay

[17:14:58] So hopefuls there with the blue all

[17:15:03] Oh, they they missed the north oh

[17:15:08] Hopeful hopeful engines you got a third stack. So someone someone else missed the north

[17:15:12] That's why he's laughing he died to no fault of his own. Yeah, that's not hopeful. So someone else misses an orb. I hope for gets

[17:15:19] atomized

[17:15:21] Well, not really much you can do in that situation. Yeah, I saved the raid, but at what cost?

[17:15:27] Do you see how synchronized canyx and Jinji were on those first few jumps?

[17:15:31] We've missed in that eight years production. Any chance we can see those last few jumps from there?

[17:15:36] Canix and Gingy.

[17:15:38] The important replay.

[17:15:39] Well there's no pull happening right now, but it was actually perfect sync for like 5 jumps.

[17:15:43] It was very impressive.

[17:15:44] And I think that's what Canix is probably spending his time on, because he knows he's

[17:15:48] not going to be doing the DPS.

[17:15:49] He's just there to deal with the scouts, so it's like, can I perfectly sync with

[17:15:52] Gingy?

[17:15:53] And look cute and cuddly.

[17:15:54] And then plain 50% of his damage as my own.

[17:15:56] And that fluffy chicken form.

[17:15:58] That's very true.

[17:15:59] And here we are.

[17:16:00] Into another pull, 172 now.

[17:16:03] The number.

[17:16:04] I thought it was 169 before.

[17:16:06] I think we may have counted that last pool twice,

[17:16:08] which was happening yesterday as well

[17:16:10] with the walk-off logs just counting two pools

[17:16:14] for some reason, so that's possible.

[17:16:16] It doesn't really matter what pool number it is.

[17:16:17] Let's be honest.

[17:16:18] No, it's always a fun thing to talk about

[17:16:21] that doesn't really mean anything whatsoever,

[17:16:24] but we still care about it.

[17:16:25] Unless it's 69 or 420.

[17:16:27] Yeah, I see no time for care.

[17:16:28] Yeah, sometimes it can be fun

[17:16:30] as a little comparative measure,

[17:16:32] but it doesn't really indicate anything.

[17:16:35] Just because some fights may have more wipes in phase one

[17:16:38] because phase one is a lot harder.

[17:16:40] For example, a fight like Kaiveza

[17:16:42] where you can't make a single mistake,

[17:16:44] of course you're gonna have more wipes

[17:16:45] on a fight like that.

[17:16:47] Some fights are just faster.

[17:16:48] Some teams pull much more, for example.

[17:16:52] Echo take quite regular breaks.

[17:16:54] They have a lot of strategy talks as well.

[17:16:58] And a guild like Liquid, for example,

[17:17:00] will just pull over and over again.

[17:17:02] so they can look like they rack up way, way, way higher pool counts.

[17:17:06] That's just the method that they like pulling.

[17:17:08] And it doesn't necessarily indicate anything.

[17:17:10] But as I was saying, it's always fun to just talk about in a very light sense,

[17:17:13] but it's not anything that can be taken too seriously.

[17:17:15] In the end, all that matters is who kills the last boss first.

[17:17:20] That's all that matters in the race to world first.

[17:17:22] Obviously, the entertainment and the joy of watching it throughout the time

[17:17:25] and the different strategies is just really fun.

[17:17:29] But it's a race to kill answer.

[17:17:31] Yeah, it always comes down to the final boss.

[17:17:34] Ultimately, that's where things really kick in.

[17:17:37] And it is so exciting.

[17:17:38] The fact that we haven't even gotten there yet.

[17:17:42] Heroic week being two weeks ago, mythic week being this week,

[17:17:45] and potentially going into the second mythic reset

[17:17:48] until we see the final boss.

[17:17:50] But that's where everything will be played for.

[17:17:53] So by no means is anybody safe.

[17:17:56] The race is not over.

[17:17:58] Yeah, by no means.

[17:18:00] And we are through the first two charges of phase one, which basically means we're through phase one.

[17:18:06] We're going to move into the intermission in a couple of seconds time.

[17:18:09] 75% HP on the boss is looking pretty tasty.

[17:18:13] That's what we'd like to see.

[17:18:14] Now the intermission, something that the Radars have been dealing with for the last two days or so.

[17:18:20] And something they have become more adept at throughout the course of the Monday and Tuesday.

[17:18:26] Today's Tuesday, right?

[17:18:27] Yeah, throughout course of Monday and Tuesday.

[17:18:29] Let's see if they can all soak the orbs as they rotate around.

[17:18:33] It looks like we have a little merry-go-round here between these two range,

[17:18:36] which you kind of expect they can just circle each other around a fulcrum in the middle and

[17:18:42] hopefully just died.

[17:18:43] Yeah, I didn't quite see what was happening there.

[17:18:47] I was looking at the combat res.

[17:18:48] You missed, oh, someone else missed an orb.

[17:18:51] Yeah, that means you kind of saw the wave of damage coming out.

[17:18:53] So, hopefully.

[17:18:54] So, that's actually super important because if some of the players are taking two orbs

[17:18:59] and one orb goes off. Instead of the individual player that's soaking it, taking the dot, the

[17:19:04] entire raid will get the dot.

[17:19:05] Their entire team.

[17:19:07] Oh, the entire team, right.

[17:19:08] If a red orb is missed, all of the blue team get a stack, and if a blue orb is missed,

[17:19:13] all of the red team get a stack. If you get three stacks, you die,

[17:19:16] and that little merry-go-round that we saw between hopeful and one of the other

[17:19:21] ranged players on the outside led to them already having two stacks,

[17:19:24] because they're just soaking each other over and over again.

[17:19:27] We already have five dead here as well. So as much as I said, they've started to get through the intermission

[17:19:31] Well, it seems like that was not the case for this pull

[17:19:34] Yeah, but it does seem that Jesse has something interesting that he has found over on the Maxwell analysis desk

[17:19:40] Jesse just a little illustration. We can go over once this pull is done. Okay. That's good

[17:19:45] We will wait for it to die and die it shall because I'm afraid they would have used their first. No

[17:19:53] They've used their first combat meds. They have another one in about 40 seconds

[17:19:57] time but with five dead, one of those being a healer is going to be tricky to have the

[17:20:01] damage output that you would want to make it all the way through P3 towards that in range.

[17:20:08] Yeah. Well, I was going to say they can still get some good phase three progression here.

[17:20:13] Oh, push!

[17:20:14] Oh!

[17:20:15] Push!

[17:20:16] Yeah, it seems like the randomness of which group gets pulled in is extremely...

[17:20:21] Well, it'd be extremely jarring anyway, but...

[17:20:24] I really think that Mirrors must have done something to Kush today.

[17:20:29] Yeah, because he's a cute skeleton.

[17:20:30] And Kush is definitely struggling.

[17:20:33] He's on a mission.

[17:20:34] And it's not to point him out specifically.

[17:20:36] It's a difficult mechanic to deal with.

[17:20:38] But I have seen Kush a couple of times go one way,

[17:20:41] realize he needs to go the other way, doubt himself

[17:20:43] and then just be stuck in the middle when that second grip comes in.

[17:20:46] Very tricky to deal with, can be hard to orientate yourself, as we say.

[17:20:50] But it's something that I'm sure Skype will be having a word about.

[17:20:54] So, if we want to take a look at exactly the point that the two of you were making,

[17:20:58] I've pulled up our handy-dandy little review tool.

[17:21:01] This is the tool that Scrap actually uses to review pulls.

[17:21:03] And you can see what happened here as we're soaking these first orbs.

[17:21:07] A lot of people in the melee group weren't super ethical about going out to get these

[17:21:13] red orbs, which are still lingering for a long time after the purple ones were

[17:21:16] already soaked.

[17:21:17] One person dashes out to get that last one.

[17:21:19] At this point, the two mages have had to soak two orbs, one from the venom,

[17:21:24] another one from creating their web so if this orange orb here with a sword

[17:21:27] about a centimeter above it doesn't get soaked they are going to die and you can

[17:21:32] see it just gets ignored and the way that works is is that the opposite team

[17:21:38] the blue team anyone that soaked two orbs are the ones that get punished so the

[17:21:42] super ethical soakers of the opposite team get punished when your team makes

[17:21:47] a mistake this is why you can't just look at who died to say that's the

[17:21:50] person messed up half the time the other team messed up and the most ethical

[17:21:55] so-cures are the ones that get executed and punished for it. That's what I'll tell

[17:21:58] my raid when we do this. It's like hey guys I'm not dying through my fault it's

[17:22:02] everyone else's fault. The tanks keep messing up and I'm dying on the other

[17:22:06] side of the room. It's not my fault. Mirror is that taking a moment to

[17:22:12] pontificate to ponder exactly how this is going to go down because we

[17:22:17] entering sort of the latter portion of the day. The expectation was today the

[17:22:21] players would try and get off relatively early so they can be prepped for

[17:22:24] tomorrow. It is a 6 a.m. reset so you want to be up by 5.15, 5.30, get some breakfast

[17:22:30] in and then start getting into logging those greater votes, seeing what bits of

[17:22:34] tier you can pick up, seeing what items you can pick up on all of your

[17:22:37] oats, getting into splits. There's a whole lot of stuff to be done for these

[17:22:41] raiders before we even get back into the re-clear? Yeah absolutely. Ideally they

[17:22:49] kill this boss before they reset. I wonder if they will play on similar to

[17:22:54] Liquid and play until it's dead. Adding the loot table into their raid vault row

[17:23:02] for this boss. That's pretty much the benefit and then if some of the raiders

[17:23:08] haven't killed six bosses on mythic this might be their sixth boss meaning that they get the

[17:23:14] three different raid options available in their great vault which will be pretty significant

[17:23:19] but they've swapped so many characters in an hour it'll be hard to know which characters are

[17:23:23] available for the six bosses in their great vaults. They did do a couple of first boss mythic

[17:23:29] splits last night so they do have some lockouts available to do some additional mythic splitting

[17:23:34] if they want to. I also can't help but draw parallels between what's happening right now

[17:23:39] and a little bit similar to what happened in Amidusil, where Liquid killed Tindral significantly

[17:23:45] before Ekko. Ekko struggled to get that kill for the sake of morale, saying up late in order to do

[17:23:49] it, and then of course everyone fighting for the world first on the final boss up for Rack.

[17:23:53] So a little bit, a little bit looking similar to that in the sense that this was killable

[17:23:58] at any point today. They obviously could if they played well. Potentially, I don't know

[17:24:02] whether Hameral is doing, but potentially some real issues and frustration rising and a little bit

[17:24:07] of pressure feeling like you should kill it because your adversary did successfully do so

[17:24:12] in their reset. I think the extra pressure from Liquid killing it earlier today or earlier today

[17:24:17] are time kind of like midnight. Yeah, they stayed up. There's definitely a lot of added pressure

[17:24:23] there and also it's not that the players are playing poorly. It's that this is a mythic level

[17:24:28] seventh boss of a tier, and to beat it you have to play really flipping well, right? Like there are

[17:24:34] some mistakes that we can look at from the outside and say, hey, perhaps you shouldn't be making this

[17:24:38] mistake, we know the quality of player that you are, but they are still playing very well,

[17:24:42] generally, to even get to P2, to get to P3. Yeah, I mean, not only are these players the best of

[17:24:47] the classes that they're playing, there's the stamina that you need to compete in the race

[17:24:52] to world first is absolutely mind-blowing to be playing these long hours, day after day,

[17:24:58] week after week on bosses that require so much heavy concentration. For example, spending two days

[17:25:04] on a fight like Nexus Princess Kaiveza where you couldn't make a single mistake, you had to react

[17:25:09] in the moment, there was nothing you could plan for. The fights like that day after day

[17:25:14] is extremely exhausting, extremely taxing. You know, I read, I read straight a few days a week,

[17:25:18] I think three day Raiden Guild. And I was exhausted by the break or after a few hours

[17:25:23] and to play this consistently playing out of your mind perfectly every single pull because it's a DPS

[17:25:29] check as well. So you need to make sure that you're pressing your rotation exactly perfectly right

[17:25:33] while dealing with these fights. There's a lot to demand of any player. So I always very much

[17:25:41] look up to anybody who competes in the race board first. It is very impressive on all fronts.

[17:25:45] Mirrors and thunder going down. I wonder if that was a betrayal. We don't have a res for a

[17:25:50] minute and a half so with only one tank although we are still in the intermission

[17:25:54] it is going to be tricky to work our way through the second phase and it looks

[17:25:57] like a wipe was caught. Yeah they already used the battle res and having a healer

[17:26:01] and a tank down with no res is available is a little bit tricky so a quick

[17:26:06] wipe is very well expected. Let me look at how Fanna died, entropic barrage,

[17:26:12] and tropic webs, shadow existence 4.73 million damage.

[17:26:18] I've got the pizza slice, the web slice is.

[17:26:22] Yeah, I think the web slice is going through there.

[17:26:24] So, a little bit tricky for the raiders right now.

[17:26:26] Especially if you have to soak the orbs, right?

[17:26:28] Yeah, I wonder if it's going to be a food buff angle for Echo,

[17:26:32] or if they're going to keep pushing.

[17:26:33] Because we are at 5.30, which is their usual food time.

[17:26:36] The question is, they did extend lunch a little bit.

[17:26:39] But I think they play for about half an hour more than they usually would at that point.

[17:26:43] It looks like we are going straight back into another pool.

[17:26:45] So the call currently being made.

[17:26:48] We keep pulling.

[17:26:49] We had some good P3s.

[17:26:50] Well, because, absolutely, I hope so.

[17:26:53] We do need a tank though.

[17:26:54] We do need both tanks for...

[17:26:56] No, pulling 10 seconds.

[17:26:57] All right.

[17:26:58] Heal him, heal us quick.

[17:26:59] Top him up, top him up.

[17:27:00] Go, go, go.

[17:27:01] All right.

[17:27:02] The pool time I put on screen again just so we have time to jump there as we are

[17:27:07] going into our next one.

[17:27:08] But they also have to think about the reset there are weekly chores to be filled out as we have the great vaults

[17:27:14] I need to make sure they have their mythic pluses in

[17:27:17] But they did fill them out this morning

[17:27:19] Yeah, I was I was told by just wait that everyone has done all the things they need to do

[17:27:24] However, I've been told by just wait a lot of things and they're only about 75% true first of the time

[17:27:30] So this one apparently is completely true. We did see a bunch of mythic plus and everything this morning

[17:27:34] Yeah, just in case you missed it, they did take a little bit longer in the morning just to make sure that they're all done, so that they are ready to just go in on Silkencourt for the rest of the day.

[17:27:46] We'll see the soak coming in here. Now the webs, I hope, fault going to be connected with Ryzen. Wolf is connected with Jinji Earth.

[17:27:54] And now the webs go across. Need three of them. The charge will come in from a Nubournash damage window.

[17:28:00] said it so many times. You want to pump out some down here. We're looking for about 75% coming out of P1.

[17:28:07] We do have one more of those charges to go. These

[17:28:10] Venom bombs coming down. Dodge away from your orbs, get towards the others, cycle around, make sure everyone continues to be alive.

[17:28:19] Ethical soaking, let go, making sure that they are all

[17:28:23] cleared before moving forwards into the next area of the room. Making sure they're getting as much cleave as

[17:28:30] possible and this is the kind of annoying thing about the the other boss jumping

[17:28:35] around you can't consistently have uptime on your cleave but dragging the boss over

[17:28:39] whenever you can is going to be extremely important as they will now need to

[17:28:42] once again rotate around and collect the orbs making sure that they're not

[17:28:47] colliding with each other these very careful tippy-toe steps as they extend

[17:28:53] the final webs to stop the second charge. There we go. There we are. A new rush. Big damage.

[17:29:00] Charges in. Big damage as you say. 12 seconds of it for them. Still have that combat res available.

[17:29:06] Two minutes into the fight. It feels like it's been a while since they got this far without having

[17:29:10] to use that res early doors. We'll move into intermission one in a couple of seconds time.

[17:29:15] About five away from that. And as we said, 75% health or lower is the target we go in

[17:29:22] with 73.8 damage is not the lack it is consistency and it is not dying, which sounds a lot simpler than it is.

[17:29:31] Yeah, this phase, I mean, it can look very clean because it looks very elegant with their strike,

[17:29:37] kind of rotating around the room in this fashion, but it is by no means easy because they do have to be soaking the other team's orbs,

[17:29:45] making sure that they are not overlapping them with the webs. As you can see, they're moving backwards a bit,

[17:29:49] Leaving them in a very nice way for the next team, but some of these orbs, you know

[17:29:53] They can be miss misplaced slightly as they wait to hold just need that final blue orb soaked

[17:29:59] There we go making sure that they're keeping up with you can see how it goes wrong very very quickly as you can fall behind

[17:30:04] And they have like one orb that's misplaced

[17:30:07] Yeah, we found a soaks three though in the end and died

[17:30:10] It looks like a lot of people were dying in that intermission

[17:30:13] Kush was the first to fall but then everyone followed suit shortly afterwards and as soon as I said

[17:30:18] we got through phase one without a death, you go through the intermission with 20 of them.

[17:30:23] Yeah it does seem like they need to be much more on the ball with soaking those orbs there.

[17:30:31] It's just about like leaving it a little bit later. There was a really good week

[17:30:34] over at the liquid stream where they had a specific counter. It was like this is how

[17:30:39] long you have for the orbs and it would just count down in the middle of your screen.

[17:30:42] It was very obvious when you needed to be soaking them. I haven't seen that as

[17:30:47] as obviously on the Echo Stream might be that they do have it.

[17:30:51] Maybe they're just looking at the swords

[17:30:53] and seeing how close it is.

[17:30:55] It's player choice as to whether or not they want it.

[17:30:57] But I really like having things as obvious as possible for me,

[17:31:01] mostly because otherwise I forget about them.

[17:31:03] There's a lot of things to track, right?

[17:31:04] Yeah, exactly. A lot of things to keep up with.

[17:31:05] So my phone keeps buzzing.

[17:31:07] I'm going to put this on non-buzzy mode.

[17:31:10] I apologize.

[17:31:12] The interesting thing about the way the kind of waves of deaths occur on this boss

[17:31:16] that if one person on team blue dies then you have kind of this reverse issue

[17:31:22] where the other team still has 10 people spawning orbs but your team now has

[17:31:27] one too few to soak all of them which making more orbs per capita making it

[17:31:32] more likely that another person goes down continuing that incredible imbalance

[17:31:36] resulting in a cascade occurring which is exactly what happened there we

[17:31:39] had one error with an extra soaked orb resulting in a touch of death

[17:31:45] death and then the rest of the team couldn't keep up. And that is what will usually happen.

[17:31:50] I see some of the players getting up and out of their seats so it looks like it might be

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[17:36:16] and I'm excited to tell you

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[17:36:19] When we founded StarForge Systems,

[17:36:21] we had one goal in mind.

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[17:36:26] Now, I don't personally play video games.

[17:36:28] I just react to TikToks, but wait, this, no,

[17:36:31] this is not true, like, I do play games.

[17:36:34] Who wrote this?

[17:36:36] I play games a lot of time.

[17:36:37] I play Diablo, New World, and well,

[17:36:42] I don't just watch other people play those games.

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[17:36:47] I own this company.

[17:36:48] I don't have to take this, I'm leaving.

[17:36:50] And the logo is a hammer.

[17:36:52] And I'm sitting here with Perfecto and we're doing a secret live sit down, so Perfecto, when is the boss going to die?

[17:58:24] I think it's going to die probably in the next 2 hours maybe? I would give it back in the 8. It's 6 right now, I think by 8 it should be dead.

[17:58:33] We're here to damage, we just need execution to be down and the boss is going to die.

[17:58:38] And if it doesn't die by 8, how long do you think Sprite will make the Raiders extend?

[17:58:44] So I think we should extend like at least until 12.

[17:58:48] Well, you think until 12.

[17:58:50] Because realistically we don't have to like wake up early tomorrow.

[17:58:53] I think it's going to be the last reset tomorrow.

[17:58:55] The both queen is not going to leave the entire next reset.

[17:58:58] So it doesn't really matter. We don't have to wake up next Wednesday again.

[17:59:01] So we can wake up later. We can wake up at 9.

[17:59:04] We can wake up at 10. We don't have to wake up at 5.

[17:59:06] Like we usually do for one day.

[17:59:08] That's actually a very good point.

[17:59:09] Yeah, because usually when the reset happens

[17:59:11] you do want to make sure that you're there immediately.

[17:59:13] but if you don't use the whole reset then that doesn't actually matter to them.

[17:59:16] Yeah, it doesn't really matter to them.

[17:59:17] And I guess for the raiders it's also a little bit better to not have to wake up and play at 6 am.

[17:59:22] It would be better if we get a little bit more sleep today, like everyone,

[17:59:25] because it's going to be a rough next week most likely.

[17:59:29] We might have to cut sleep if the boss is like killable,

[17:59:31] because I assume the boss is going to die the last boss.

[17:59:34] Even though I haven't seen it, I assume it's going to die by Saturday, Sunday at the absolute maximum.

[17:59:38] We're going to quote you on this?

[17:59:39] Yeah, you can do that, yeah.

[17:59:42] You also played DK this time around. How did you think the DK gameplay was and how did you like the Boot Twister in general?

[17:59:52] So, I did play DK before, but I was like an unholy one trick.

[17:59:56] I respect the Frost that morning when Scrab gave me the DM and he said,

[17:59:59] Oh, you have to play DK and I had no abilities on my bars.

[18:00:02] So I had to learn from Scrab, I had the Maxwell guide up, I had Mini next to me, code signal then.

[18:00:08] The first thing was a little bit shaky, but I kind of got the basics of it down.

[18:00:12] for the second they wouldn't get to kill and it was actually quite fun I have to say it was a very fun

[18:00:17] experience yeah. So you're gonna play Frosty K more often? Hopefully, maybe yeah. Alright, cool. And then you did of course progress a little bit of

[18:00:26] Prince as well with your rogue, what do you think about that boss? I mean I know a lot of people really like that boss but I

[18:00:32] think it's mostly people that haven't played that boss that are like oh this is like a really great experience

[18:00:36] it's a really fun fight but I think as a melee particularly a melee that needs

[18:00:41] uptime you're really gonna struggle on the boss you get the liner your cooldowns

[18:00:45] it's not a great experience yeah you have to go out and also the

[18:00:51] intermission is a little bit safe especially if like a range are coming into

[18:00:55] million and leaving you not a fun experience also I wouldn't have in our

[18:00:58] guild but like you know in general I'm sure that some other people who might

[18:01:01] have that experience yeah no they would never have it with you guys

[18:01:06] I've never bothered and they look like this boss of course you haven't been

[18:01:12] seeing much of it, but what do you think about it in general from the way it's designed, the

[18:01:18] mythic mechanic?

[18:01:19] Yeah, I mean it's a little bit of a weird boss, it's mostly down to execution really.

[18:01:25] It's about mostly team play, it's not so much the DPS check, I know I was liquid,

[18:01:29] they actually killed it during the end raids, but I think for us we're a little bit ahead

[18:01:33] on diamonds and it's mostly about just playing the mechanics and the boss is going to

[18:01:37] die, it's only execution, it looks like it is for us.

[18:01:40] Interesting.

[18:01:41] What do you think about the Raid? Because this Raid, we've been talking about it being very interesting when it comes to what kind of damage profiles you need.

[18:01:48] A Blue Twister, it was a very different comp to Princess, and now this was also very different and of course Anthrax.

[18:01:54] Is there something you like, or would you prefer if there's more single target or more AWE, just more like one theme rather than having such different things?

[18:02:02] Yeah, I do like that when there's different damage profiles, but the damage profiles are a little bit weird.

[18:02:07] I mean, I think I put in this post and even this post as well has a great damage profile

[18:02:12] I think with a diamond sums. I mean as a rogue I think I would like that because

[18:02:16] That's what sabros does right you work around downsums, but like I think Queen has a very weird

[18:02:22] It's just a very dumb as very weird damage profile

[18:02:25] I guess we have to see how it goes for mythic, but on heroic

[18:02:28] I didn't think it was a I did nothing. It was a fun fight to play. Yeah. Yeah, well

[18:02:33] Let's hope it's gonna be a good spot of mythic. Yeah

[18:02:35] Because that would be bad for you and for us as viewers as well, because we do want to see a fan fight.

[18:02:41] I think as a viewer you're probably going to like that fight, but playing it is a different experience always.

[18:02:45] Yes, because Prince is definitely a fan fight to watch.

[18:02:48] And I guess playing and watching is awesome.

[18:02:51] Like dealing with all the grips and stuff, probably not the greatest experience usually, especially for me.

[18:02:56] Maybe if you're playing in Arcane Mids or a DK, it's fun.

[18:03:00] All right, and then I did want to ask you what do you think of the SK Magento facility here?

[18:03:06] You're liking it. Oh, it's it's great. We have great food every day great snacks usually

[18:03:11] We rate the kitchen at late at night me because the nice rooms always

[18:03:15] Taking the protein bars taking the bananas lots of bananas here. There's a lot of bananas. Yeah

[18:03:21] And they have this German snack like Knoppers or something like that

[18:03:25] It's actually there's too much power in this candy. It's like it's way too good

[18:03:28] It's way too tasty, like dangerous. You should not have too many of these around.

[18:03:32] Thank you so much for the fact that I think we really need to get some knoppers for the Raiders.

[18:03:37] Don't they feel the bus now? And we're going to start the bag to the desk to, I think it's Jordan.

[18:03:46] That it is. It is us. It is us.

[18:03:49] It be us. It be us. We be here. We're still here.

[18:03:52] Welcome back. We did have IRL food bath, had a little bit of a break while the Raiders ate dinner,

[18:03:58] dinner ready to jump back into Silicon Court as we sat down with Nogura and Effecto with our

[18:04:05] lovely sit down with Secret Lab. Very lovely to listen to them and also the snacks are very good,

[18:04:09] kind of a test of that. Very tasty. Knopf is one of my favorite snacks probably from Germany at least

[18:04:15] alongside sausage rolls which are not from Germany but still very good snack.

[18:04:19] Greggs. Greggs! I love some Greggs, that's a long time ago, two weeks ago that we had

[18:04:24] my love of Gregg's expressed. We've been here forever. We're still only on seven of eight.

[18:04:30] Gingy has the gunners on though. Gaining glasses. Ready to really pump damage now. Ready to read

[18:04:39] what toys do. Oh my goodness as we have the pool timer. Right let's go Echo. We need to get

[18:04:46] into phase three. We need to see that significant progression. We need to make it to that very

[18:04:50] very very dangerous overlap with the charge and the dispels at the same time getting the double

[18:04:54] damage buff on both of the bosses at the same time we need to be getting there but until then

[18:04:59] we have phase one. That we do we have phase one important to note during our dinner break method

[18:05:04] jump to 15.3% I think they missed the dispel right in the final phase so it could have been a kill

[18:05:10] for them they've been steadily progressing over the last little while looking for that world

[18:05:16] second spot behind Liquid obviously who cleared it at the end of their last day before reset.

[18:05:21] Still a couple of hours to go before we get to that position here. We did hear Perfecto saying

[18:05:26] as well, we just extend. We just make sure the boss is dead before we get into the reset.

[18:05:30] I'm not sure Skype would agree, although in previous tiers I think he would have. It feels

[18:05:34] like this year has been, okay, already got some deaths, so that's not the best.

[18:05:39] Yeah, I think that was a little bit of betrayal.

[18:05:41] Yeah. This year's coach has been much more on it about go to bed at nine, wake up at six, go to bed at nine, wake up at six.

[18:05:47] And I'm surprised. I was expecting some 2am sort of shenanigans going on.

[18:05:52] Yeah, I mean, that can definitely happen.

[18:05:54] But I feel like Echo have always had that stamina planned out very, very well.

[18:05:59] They always know that this is a marathon and not a sprint.

[18:06:03] And they do very, very well when the tears last for a while

[18:06:06] because they do take that extra time to make sure their sleep schedule is consistent.

[18:06:10] they're getting enough breaks, they're getting enough sleep.

[18:06:13] They are always very precious about that,

[18:06:15] because, you know, these raid tears

[18:06:16] can last a long time.

[18:06:17] They're playing for so many hours every single day

[18:06:20] on bosses that require such extreme concentration

[18:06:23] and skill with the various bosses,

[18:06:25] one mistake leading to a fatal wipe.

[18:06:29] That is a lot of stamina to play that consistent

[18:06:32] over and over and over again.

[18:06:34] Well, let's see if they can add a bit of consistency

[18:06:36] from the first pull post-dinner.

[18:06:37] Obviously, usually that pulls kind of a throw away.

[18:06:40] people make mistakes, they're getting back into the flow of things, but hopefully that

[18:06:43] flow finds itself rapidly in the Echo players, because it has been a bit of a struggle this

[18:06:49] afternoon to get that consistency down. We see the webs picked up here by Fraggo and

[18:06:54] by Mace-Teen. The Orbs we dropped after that Venom Bomb, they dash over to the other

[18:06:59] side, collect a couple of Orbs, then can go towards the middle to intercept the

[18:07:03] charge of Anubarash.

[18:07:05] Yeah, they will require 3 of these webs to break on Mythic as they extend their tethers,

[18:07:11] but not too far.

[18:07:12] If they run too far from their partner, it will break the tether, and they need to make

[18:07:16] sure they have all 3 to stop this charge.

[18:07:18] Meaning the boss is taking 100% extra damage for 12 seconds as they are going to be putting

[18:07:24] as much damage as they can into the boss within these damage windows.

[18:07:28] As each phase is set, it's time based.

[18:07:31] damage that they deal now will be a lot of damage taken off at the end of the fight, meaning

[18:07:37] that they can get through it much smoother. It's quite a tight end rage, you only have

[18:07:41] three minutes once you hit phase three. It is, and the orb's being soaked up there,

[18:07:45] you want to only ever have two of those stacks on you if you get three, you die. Also,

[18:07:50] if the other side of the rage, the red side if you're blue, and the blue side

[18:07:53] if you're red, leave an orb on the ground and the sword pierces through that orb,

[18:07:58] all of the opposite side will get a stack. So if a red orb is left up, all of the blue

[18:08:02] players will get a stack, and if you're already at two, you just die. So collecting all of

[18:08:06] those orbs is vital. We see the second charge coming out here from a new barash. Looks like

[18:08:11] the angle is slightly off from the players here, but we already have a few players going

[18:08:16] down. Looks like perhaps an orb was missed. It could have been an orb missed, or two

[18:08:20] players died immediately, which makes me think that it was a betrayal. So if any

[18:08:24] of the colours. Mix. If blue runs into red, red runs into blue. If you mix with the opposite

[18:08:30] colour, you will instantly die. It's very much like Syed and Atheris, phase 3. You played

[18:08:36] Shadowlands just there, and if you played that first raid tier, um, yeah, the final boss

[18:08:40] of that raid tier.

[18:08:41] What was the battle?

[18:08:42] No touchy.

[18:08:43] Who was the battle?

[18:08:44] I was trying to hint that it was betrayal.

[18:08:47] I thought you were...

[18:08:48] No, I was doing those things.

[18:08:49] This is betrayal.

[18:08:50] This is touch the tips.

[18:08:51] This is betrayal.

[18:08:52] Exactly. I was doing this at Jordan.

[18:08:54] To say it's a portrayal and then she said no touchy

[18:08:58] Also very valid and it's my own finger

[18:09:03] Okay how's everyone else interpreting that then huh?

[18:09:07] UwU what's this, this for me, UwU

[18:09:12] What have you done?

[18:09:21] No more cursing

[18:09:22] No more cursing?

[18:09:23] Okay this is the pull

[18:09:24] Not sure what's worse, cast a curse or the UwU

[18:09:29] No, you said there was no more cursing. So like this is the pull, it's going to be clean, they're going to get to P3 and they will kill the boss.

[18:09:37] There you go, it's as easy as that, let's do it.

[18:09:39] As easy as that, no doubt in my mind.

[18:09:43] So you see the tether's being picked up again, this is for that Anubis charge, go around collect the orbs, you kind of want to do a cycle around a central point.

[18:09:51] Rotation in fact is the word I was looking for there, with your web partner, then Anubis charges in, big damage.

[18:09:58] this is one of the two major mechanics in this boss fight. Now, there are lots of other small

[18:10:03] overlapping mechanics that obviously have an impact, like this Venom Bomb coming down leaving

[18:10:07] Orbs, but the big two mechanics are the Chargers to Maneuverash and the Dispel from Takash.

[18:10:13] Cush! Oh sorry, go on. Sorry, no, go ahead. Cush! Sorry, I just was... Cush the most ethical

[18:10:18] DPS here, neither of the damage meters showing damage whatsoever, showing deaths and HPS.

[18:10:22] This has never been seen before by any damage dealers. Usually both are displaying damage done.

[18:10:28] Do you think he looked at deaths in a different pool and forgot to change it back?

[18:10:32] Probably. That's why you met anybody that died.

[18:10:35] The thing about the DPS meters is when you're at this level, why have them up? Why is it mattered?

[18:10:40] Why does your DPS in the fight matter? It doesn't matter. All it is is a distraction. Get the HPS off there as well.

[18:10:47] Like I don't care until after the pool if my DPS or my HPS is here.

[18:10:51] I care.

[18:10:52] True and real. I played with that meter. Yeah, and also there were FES issues with the details meter on Brute Twister

[18:11:00] People were complaining about it because there were so many ads spawning. It's such a big arena. Just get rid of it

[18:11:04] I suggested it to Jinji. He laughed in my face and I feel like that's the difference between a DPS and an HPS

[18:11:10] You know sometimes you got to be a bit more ethical with your frames

[18:11:13] We have got through the first couple of charges here in phase one will move on to the intermission about 75

[18:11:18] you're looking for. And that's

[18:11:23] exactly where echo are right

[18:11:25] now. Yeah, they're going to be

[18:11:27] moving around the boss in this

[18:11:29] anti clockwise fashion, dropping

[18:11:31] their orbs in a place where the

[18:11:33] opposite team can pick them up

[18:11:35] again blue soaking red red soaking

[18:11:37] blue and you have these players

[18:11:39] at range also doing a little

[18:11:40] bit of swap between the

[18:11:42] partners, avoiding the webbing

[18:11:43] that is shooting out across the

[18:11:45] floor and surviving and

[18:11:46] as they are slightly extended shield, giving them a little bit more time for DPS cooldowns to come up,

[18:11:51] but doing it in a fashion where they won't necessarily be taking too much damage as there is pulsing damage across the entire raid,

[18:11:57] while this lasts. So the shield on 7, just below 7% now, very nice.

[18:12:03] Down to 5%, you can see that just above where Nice Meme's character is, that shield falling lower and lower, and it should go down right now.

[18:12:12] Yeah, they lose Velo, but they do have a battle res that they do they can be a bit more judicial with their battle res

[18:12:17] Is in this phase very willing to give them out because obviously we're not one tanking anymore

[18:12:22] That was changed have to to tank this boss the second phase very much is to carges time to be sent a spotlight

[18:12:28] We will see dispels having to be cast on her in about five seconds time

[18:12:32] Five of the raiders will get a dispel after this pull-in mechanic, which has been successfully avoided

[18:12:37] You have to go into the middle. You have to be next to the car and be dispelled when you're near her

[18:12:41] We'll do the last dispel right at the last moment

[18:12:44] So don't be too concerned as we see nice means dashing in you can see the dispels here on Rycin's raid frames

[18:12:50] Jinji next after that is Wolf Disco then

[18:12:54] Zvereo Zeruo I keep mispronouncing that name my apologies Zeruo be dispel just before that big boom bar ticks up

[18:13:01] up, now he won't.

[18:13:03] We missed it.

[18:13:04] The fourth dispel was missed.

[18:13:06] Ah, okay well.

[18:13:07] Which meant that the three stack that had already been up fell off and you can no longer

[18:13:10] separate off.

[18:13:11] Can you at some point grab one of these UIs and just circle exactly where you're looking

[18:13:16] because I'm looking at a lot of the stuff and even I can't track it and I've been

[18:13:20] here for a week so I'm sure there are a lot of people at home who can't track

[18:13:23] it.

[18:13:24] I'll pull up a review tool and show you.

[18:13:25] I would very much appreciate that.

[18:13:27] Yeah, they are very much been maxing those dispels as they want to interrupt the boss as late as possible

[18:13:35] because when they get into phase 3, as I keep saying and repeating myself,

[18:13:39] but they will need to make sure that they are knocking as much boss health off as much as possible

[18:13:45] to go into phase 3 with the least available HP as they possibly can.

[18:13:49] So they are extending that dispel, getting as much damage out,

[18:13:52] out, really squeezing as much as they can to avoid the inevitable enrage when we get to

[18:13:59] that 3 minute mark once phase 3 starts.

[18:14:02] And we're just going to forget about the fact I said that with the pull break.

[18:14:05] Yeah, that's cool.

[18:14:06] I forgot, so success.

[18:14:07] Yeah, that's what I like.

[18:14:09] Forgettable casting.

[18:14:10] It's my motto.

[18:14:11] No!

[18:14:12] Although, I feel like you have had the cast a curse of all time when we first got

[18:14:21] on our ship.

[18:14:22] I can do better than that. Watch this to the poor. They tie within the first second.

[18:14:25] I could not see. I was crying a lot.

[18:14:27] That was very impressive. It looks like we are going to go into back-to-back pools.

[18:14:30] As a reminder, through the entirety of the Waste of World first, we have amazing money for games,

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[18:14:39] goes in, helps repair games, consoles, and if you do donate, you have the chance to

[18:14:45] contribute to some of these wonderful charity incentives. We've already done Operation

[18:14:48] American whose cast is anyway will be having the RC Rumble and scuffed cosplay tomorrow and then after

[18:14:53] that things like Raider Portraits, the International Cast of Appreciation Day, the Nerubar, which I

[18:14:58] might not be here to do so again I might have to hand over responsibilities to that for preach,

[18:15:03] for that to preach, and then Crab and Spider Tattoos. Nogura, Jesse and I have all committed

[18:15:08] to getting a Crab or a Spider Tattoo after the race. Oh has Nogura joined the tattoo gang?

[18:15:15] Yeah, she joined a while ago and I told her to take a day to think on it because, you know,

[18:15:18] throwing a mark on your body, but she seems to be in. She seems to be committed to getting one.

[18:15:22] I don't have any tattoos, but I feel like if I was to have one, it would have to be something very

[18:15:26] meaningful or a time that was very meaningful. So have either a spider or a crab from, you know,

[18:15:31] the race world first, my favorite event. This third anniversary that sounds sad, but it really is my favorite

[18:15:36] event of the year. So to have something that meaningful from a race that's one to remember

[18:15:42] for sure. I am warming to the idea. Give it some thought. No impetus here for you to make a decision

[18:15:50] if you do decide to get one. You can always get one outside of the charity incentive as well. I

[18:15:54] tend to have a thing where I say it takes me six months from thinking I want a tattoo to getting

[18:15:59] the idea to then committing to the idea. I have to have thought about it for six months because

[18:16:03] it's going to be on your body for the rest of your life, right? Some people are more willing

[18:16:06] just to put something on there and that is entirely acceptable as well. But I tend to be

[18:16:10] of the camp that has to be something I've been thinking about for a while before I get that tattoo.

[18:16:15] Yeah, just make sure it's not sprung at the moment, being or impulsive and you really do want it.

[18:16:19] As we are going into another poll for Echo here, we need to get into phase three. We need to get

[18:16:24] that to that progression point. And we've had quite a few phase three polls today getting their

[18:16:31] best percent polls a couple of times across their raid day today. If they can get this

[18:16:36] boss down today they will be in a very good stead for this race.

[18:16:41] It also wouldn't be the end of the world if they don't. Obviously the raiders have been

[18:16:45] on this boss for the whole day. They want to kill it. They feel like they can kill it.

[18:16:49] And from what we've seen they can if a few people remain alive into phase three. But

[18:16:54] if they don't get it, have to remember it's not the last boss of the tier so they don't

[18:16:58] lose out on world first by not killing this boss. Also tomorrow is reset day so they're

[18:17:02] not going to have too much time on Ancerek even if they do manage to kill the boss.

[18:17:06] And after that it all comes down to the reclares and how quickly you can get back through the

[18:17:10] raid and onto Ansterec who we really don't have a huge idea of the difficulty curve

[18:17:16] that will come in with her either.

[18:17:18] Yeah, we don't know what to expect whatsoever, notoriously the final boss of the rating,

[18:17:23] not available for testing, so everybody will be going in blind somewhat.

[18:17:28] There is a dungeon journal that does list the abilities, however you may as well

[18:17:32] be reading it in another language because it doesn't make any sense until you really

[18:17:35] see it. They will need timings, they'll need week horrors to be tested. There's only so

[18:17:40] much foam you can read about in the dungeon journal and kind of picture how on earth that

[18:17:44] is going to work in the fight.

[18:17:46] Fothing venom, spicy venom, cinnamon venom, foamy venom.

[18:17:51] Cinnamon foam. Wait, this is sounding delicious now.

[18:17:53] It's Halloween season, it's time for the pumpkin cinnamon foam lattes. That's what

[18:17:57] I'm getting ready for. I'll just lick it up off the floor.

[18:18:01] Oh my goodness, they are pumping as much damage into this vulnerable window as possible.

[18:18:08] There are several times the bosses take 100% increased damage and they will be wanting to

[18:18:13] make sure they capitalize on that as much as they can.

[18:18:16] Quite a lot of burst damage profiles in this comp which is very, very nice as we are going

[18:18:21] into the Intimation number one, dodging the webs that are shooting out across the

[18:18:26] platform and moving around the boss in a fashion that they can soak the orbs

[18:18:30] dropped by the other team as well and you can see how intricate it is look at

[18:18:34] there were three orbs basically stacked on top of each other so you have to step

[18:18:37] close enough to soak one but if you already have a stack you don't want to

[18:18:41] soak two because then you die and you don't want to soak two anyway because it

[18:18:44] adds that it added pressure on the next set of soaks the dot does fall off

[18:18:49] eventually but as you can see only just falling off on kush right now

[18:18:53] they'll keep rotating around the boss 20% still left on that shield and when

[18:18:56] that shield pops will get out of the intermission. Usually about 45 to 50 seconds since the start

[18:19:02] of the intermission as they are holding a little bit of damage, you can see that shield

[18:19:05] meter has slowed a little bit just to get cooldowns up for phase two.

[18:19:09] Yeah, that is very, very important as they will want to just pause just again to make

[18:19:14] sure that those cooldowns are coming off cooldown ready for the times of the name

[18:19:18] we really need to send them. As we are in phase two now, this is where you will

[18:19:22] have the dispels. There will be five in total on Mythic and they are absolutely min-maxing

[18:19:28] these dispels, trying to extend as much as possible, getting that fifth dispel to prevent

[18:19:33] the cast from the boss at that very, very last millisecond. The boss will drag in

[18:19:38] one group at a time so they need to make sure that they are running out in a fashion

[18:19:42] that does not interrupt the next group to get dragged in, while also soaking the

[18:19:45] other teams orb still, having these scarab fixates, making sure that they are CC'd

[18:19:51] kept under the boss for cleave as we do have the big boom one more dispel interrupting it right at

[18:19:59] the very last second here and see there we go nice dispel as it occurs taking a hundred percent

[18:20:05] increased damage already down to 60% HP looking for about 45% coming out of this phase but we

[18:20:10] still have one round of dispels to go through before we even get to that point everyone topped up

[18:20:15] we have a combat res in our back pocket and another one coming in about 20 seconds time

[18:20:20] the game. We're going to go

[18:20:24] into the game. Dodge the wedge

[18:20:26] webs get ready for the grips

[18:20:28] because this has been killing

[18:20:30] a lot of our radars across the

[18:20:32] course of this battle. First

[18:20:34] webs come in blue scatter

[18:20:36] hide. Second webs come in red

[18:20:38] able to get through them as

[18:20:40] well without anyone dying to

[18:20:41] betrayal. Now Yankov did fall,

[18:20:42] but he's brought himself

[18:20:44] back up with the unctoken and

[18:20:45] now we're into that

[18:20:47] dispelling phase again. Yeah

[18:20:49] they do fixate and we did see a

[18:20:54] death due to a crit melee hit

[18:20:57] earlier. Unfortunately, as we

[18:20:59] need the final dispel to go off

[18:21:01] here as they will in a very nice

[18:21:03] fashion, taking 100% increased

[18:21:05] damage for 12 seconds, pumping

[18:21:07] out as much as they possibly can

[18:21:09] in some of their strongest

[18:21:11] pushes into the final phase.

[18:21:13] They've been on around 45% to

[18:21:15] go into the intermission. It

[18:21:16] seems like they are absolutely

[18:21:18] damage the boss on 44% as they are going into intermission number two.

[18:21:23] So now it's dodge the donuts. You don't want to get hit, don't want to get caught out by

[18:21:27] them. The Orbs will spawn first and then the donuts will start spawning around a Nubirash.

[18:21:31] It's his time to take centre stage and you can see just how tricky some of this manoeuvring

[18:21:35] can be. Pick up the Orbs, make sure those aren't bursting yet to see anyone fall as

[18:21:40] of yet in this intermission and then try and get through this shield as quickly

[18:21:44] possible. 40% left on it. Now the orb's going down once again. Now we move to the side, get away

[18:21:50] from those rings so that the red team can come around and absorb those orbs. The blue team moving

[18:21:54] into these orbs, they'll absorb all of those as well, and the boss is down to 42% with only 10%

[18:22:00] remaining on that shield. Should be burst before the next set of donuts. We'll see if they can

[18:22:03] do it in time. Yeah, they successfully go into phase three. Okay, now they have three minutes

[18:22:09] in this phase to kill the bosses. Keep your eye on the combat timer. Three minutes in total is what

[18:22:16] they'll have. They'll need to deal with both of the bosses major abilities now. They will be dealing

[18:22:21] with a charge and dispels. First the charge, second the dispels, and at the very final overlap

[18:22:27] they'll be dealing with both at the same time. And for that overlap they are saving the bubbler.

[18:22:32] So we have the only swarm coming out from Enumorash. Those mechanics we will have to

[18:22:37] to see if they can navigate them because alongside having the charge to deal with, you have to

[18:22:43] keep the webs from this grip. Usually it's the second set that will keep four webs, sometimes

[18:22:47] only three. You only need three to stop the boss, but if you keep four, why not have

[18:22:51] a little bit of a bonus for it? They're going to get the webs in front and then the charge

[18:22:55] will come in and on top of the charge, Anubraash will be stopped. This is good so far

[18:22:59] from Echo yet to see anyone fall. Still, there's two combat resists and a blood

[18:23:03] the team. They have lost to

[18:23:07] boots. Yeah, trying to get as

[18:23:09] much damage out while the boss

[18:23:11] is vulnerable. Now they will

[18:23:13] have to deal with the drag and

[18:23:15] also they would have to deal

[18:23:17] with the dispel. So group red

[18:23:19] getting dragged in first then

[18:23:21] group blue, making sure that

[18:23:22] team red is so can the blue

[18:23:23] or team blue is so can the

[18:23:24] red or while also dealing with

[18:23:26] the rings that are going out

[18:23:27] across the entire platform.

[18:23:28] They do lose kush, but it's

[18:23:29] fine. They have two battle

[18:23:31] Now they'll have to deal with the incoming dispels with the first one already gone off

[18:23:34] They have to make sure that those players are standing closest to the boss in order to get dispelled

[18:23:38] Canex goes in number three done as well looking for four and five and perhaps the whole way to survive fifth this spell out in

[18:23:46] Time a new PB already for echo and with one combat res left and that bloodlust for the 200% damage phase

[18:23:53] This might just be enough

[18:23:55] enough. 23% HP left on the bus.

[18:23:58] Let's see if they can deal with the overlap of mechanics.

[18:24:02] Yeah, Jinji getting, or hopeful getting a bloodlust proc there,

[18:24:05] throwing me a little bit,

[18:24:07] but they are saving that lust for the overlap.

[18:24:09] Now this is the hardest part of the fight.

[18:24:12] This is the progress point.

[18:24:14] They'll be needing to deal with the charge

[18:24:17] as well as the dispels at the exact same time.

[18:24:20] Team blue getting dragged in,

[18:24:22] making sure that they are going back for team reds,

[18:24:24] and the other team doing the same thing as they now have the dispels and extend the webs to stop the charge

[18:24:32] They've got the webs nice memants is it down, but they'll stop the charge from a new brash now

[18:24:36] They just have to deal with those at dispels to cars in the middle and new brash taking a lot of damage the dispels down

[18:24:42] And to cars as well a cataclysmic entropy is there do they have the final two they're on two right now

[18:24:47] They do not have them to cars explodes

[18:24:51] it's a new PB at 13.7 or so, but those final dispels being missed means that the fight goes on.

[18:25:01] What a fantastic pull! This is exactly what we want to see from them. We want to see them getting into phase three.

[18:25:07] That was the hardest part of the fight, that overlap. This is the first time that they've seen it,

[18:25:12] so they need to make sure that they are progressing at that point. They're exactly

[18:25:16] where they're going with the orb collection, with extending the webs, getting closer to the boss so

[18:25:22] that the dispels correctly go out onto the boss as well. This is fantastic. This is exactly what we

[18:25:27] want to see. And Jesse has something for us as well. So this time as on the previous time,

[18:25:34] the mistake both times was you have 10 seconds after the spell goes on the boss to get the

[18:25:38] next dispel on, otherwise the dot expires and you can't get to the five stacks necessary

[18:25:42] to stun her. You asked me to show you how to find that as long as I was in the pool between

[18:25:48] yes but yes we'll illustrate that for chat anyway so I've pulled up our review tool so everyone

[18:25:52] can see there are two ways of counting the dispels going out on the boss uh production can we pull

[18:25:57] up the review tool please whoops that's not supposed to be there I like okay so I was just

[18:26:03] the line guys she's not revealing any secret no no no this is fine that's fine so this is a

[18:26:09] play their profile debuff tracker that everyone in the raid has, showing you that there is currently

[18:26:13] one stack of the debuff on the boss. If that seven ticks down to a zero before the two goes on,

[18:26:18] it will expire and they won't have enough. You also have a weak aura in the top left

[18:26:22] where Scribe is tracking exactly how much time is remaining on the debuff, so we can press play

[18:26:27] here after I erase it. You guys keep your eyes on those and you will see that they put the

[18:26:34] second spell on. You have this much duration to put the third on, they get the third on,

[18:26:37] You have this much duration get the fourth on and that won't happen. It's going to expire

[18:26:42] Four seconds three seconds two seconds gone

[18:26:45] And now even if they put the other two on it doesn't matter because they fell outside the window and they lose the stun

[18:26:50] that makes sense and

[18:26:53] Unfortunately for echo that was their downfall on that previous pool as well

[18:26:57] They had the webs they had that part of the mechanic down and uber ash was stunned a little bit further away from

[18:27:02] cars than they'd want but that might be because they lost a couple of members in getting to that

[18:27:06] point. It's close, it's progress for Echo and it's something, although we were beginning to see

[18:27:11] more P3s, something like this where they're down to 12.7% makes them really feel like it's any pool

[18:27:17] now. Yes, absolutely. It's kind of like the light at the end of the tunnel at this point. It

[18:27:22] is absolutely fantastic to see what a great pool. They were dealing so much damage going into

[18:27:29] the final or the second phase was it coming out the second phase with 45% health they need to keep a

[18:27:34] little or is that going into the third phase no no it all happened so quickly 100% right but you

[18:27:38] think about it they had a 200 damage window about to come up with a bloodlust and the bosses were

[18:27:44] 13% we're gonna get obliterated I think when I watched the liquid one that was about five to

[18:27:51] six percent just in that window so assuming they can put the bosses in the right position

[18:27:55] and cleave it's pretty much done for at that point if they can be consistent obviously that's

[18:28:00] the thing we continue continuously say today but we'll see if echo can do it because it is getting

[18:28:06] later in the day it's like 6 30 now another couple of hours we'll start to push them towards when

[18:28:11] they would usually be closing up shop and looking for the next day yeah because anytime you

[18:28:16] interrupt the boss his main ability it takes 100 increase damage and because of that overlap in

[18:28:21] phase three where you get the charge and the disbells both bosses are taking a

[18:28:26] hundred percent increased damage at that time that's kind of their window that's

[18:28:30] their lust that's where they are going to be putting everything into the bosses

[18:28:35] so I mean we just need to get there again make sure those disbells are

[18:28:39] handled without wiping. You also called Jakob's death about halfway through that

[18:28:46] pull. Which he did die. But only for 0.743 seconds. It was actually shocking that he

[18:28:53] saw it. That was the fastest on-c I have ever seen in my life. He clicked the on-c

[18:28:57] 0.743 seconds after dying. And it's back in the fight. That's how eager he was.

[18:29:03] No hesitation there. Normally the on-c could pause and you're like,

[18:29:07] should we? Should we? He's out there. Any rezes at that point, he was straight back in

[18:29:12] the fight obviously there's a few characters in the game that have these

[18:29:15] cheap death mechanics or coming back from the dead mechanics, Shaman being one

[18:29:19] of them where they can unck back to life that doesn't use one of your combat

[18:29:22] res is importantly so usually over a fight you start off with one combat

[18:29:25] res you get one at 4.30 if the fight does go another four and a half minutes

[18:29:29] you can get another combat res but Shaman's have this wonderful ability

[18:29:33] every 20 minutes or so can be reduced with certain hero talents to say hey

[18:29:37] I'm back in the fight let's go for it and I don't blame Yakob at all for

[18:29:42] thinking that was the pool because it really felt like it until those final

[18:29:45] overlap of mechanics. I mean it could be the pool any pool now right? They can

[18:29:50] kill this boss, they have the damage and they are seeing significant progress

[18:29:54] at that point you know that small little mistake it could have absolutely

[18:29:58] carried through right the bin which was their best pool so far so it was

[18:30:01] definitely the right call. I wonder if there's some comms at the moment

[18:30:06] between Skype and the rest of the you know we core synergy team or

[18:30:10] or choreography team, I guess, saying how do we deal with that?

[18:30:14] Just make sure we have a perfect plan for the final overland.

[18:30:17] Yeah, I can imagine there's a lot of discussion to be had here

[18:30:19] because that is the furthest that they've seen into phase three.

[18:30:23] And there is a web drag just before they then have to deal

[18:30:28] with both of the boss's abilities at the same time.

[18:30:31] So it could just be a bit of a discussion on which team is going

[18:30:34] where and finding their feet in that moment as well.

[18:30:36] So I think Jeff knows what it's about.

[18:30:38] Well, I don't know what they're discussing,

[18:30:39] but I know what happened.

[18:30:40] you can make up. You can just make it up. They have no idea we're not being fed

[18:30:44] information. I would never like to chat. This is the analysis that's good as a

[18:30:48] sacred place. Oh is it? Yeah. Yeah. I would never do that. So the five debuffs that

[18:30:52] went out included one on Kenex and he died with it. And they were looking to

[18:30:59] dispel his onto the boss. And you can't dispel someone who's dead. That is true.

[18:31:05] That is very interesting. Oh my goodness. I guess it wasn't a case of

[18:31:10] I'm still digging into exactly what happened. I want to find an actual replay of it because it was such an excellent pull

[18:31:16] But I did find that he died at the exact same moment his evil was gone that couldn't do it

[18:31:20] You lose the deal if you was killed by a trail. He did lose the debuff

[18:31:24] Yes, lose the debuff and you guys okay because otherwise you'd say well if someone dies

[18:31:27] We just come back rest them and then dispelled them right in that case

[18:31:33] That's what I'm looking for in it. It doesn't look like it does

[18:31:37] Interesting because that is but I need to dig I need to dig deeper. He was the one going in for a spell

[18:31:42] He died they couldn't get the dispel. That's when they lost the stack

[18:31:45] Potentially if it did jump there could be some hero play, but I'm still digging fun. I'm exactly what happened

[18:31:49] I'm just saying that was that was what's happened in those couple of seconds

[18:31:52] There was a betrayal kill right before his dispel. He went down. They couldn't get the spell the stack fell off

[18:31:57] It was over. Yep

[18:31:59] Well

[18:32:01] Suck

[18:32:03] That's the kind of expert commentary he brought you over from League for!

[18:32:09] That's what I'm here for!

[18:32:11] It's League toxicity!

[18:32:15] No, I can't actually be doing a great job.

[18:32:17] He got betrayal, so somebody else executed him.

[18:32:19] Well, or he did, right.

[18:32:21] He takes two to Tango with the betrayal, right?

[18:32:23] No touchy!

[18:32:25] No touchy!

[18:32:27] It is always difficult because you have the people setting up in the middle as well to land the webs onto an Uberash, right?

[18:32:32] I wonder if there's an argument to move those slightly closer to where Nubirash is charging

[18:32:35] from so that you line up and Nubirash would decarge in the middle of the room as you're

[18:32:39] trying to get those dispels off, but on that pull was a little tricky for Echo.

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[18:32:52] Let's have a mosey.

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[18:32:57] therapy to children in hospitals who are going through obviously very difficult

[18:33:00] times, brings consoles in, repairs consoles, allows them to connect with the outside world

[18:33:05] and then after they get out of hospital, gives them internships and scholarship programs

[18:33:09] to give them that, just that boost in reconnecting to society for every dollar that we raise

[18:33:16] for games for love, that is equivalent to one child impacted by it.

[18:33:19] So every person who is given a dollar is helping one child out with some of the most difficult

[18:33:24] times of their lives.

[18:33:25] We really appreciate it.

[18:33:26] It's a great cause and if you are looking to donate, we'd love it if you could donate

[18:33:32] to Games for Love.

[18:33:33] Yeah, we had a $1 donation from Schematic saying,

[18:33:37] Crab's in the shallows, creeping with care, Spiders weep webs in the cool evening air,

[18:33:44] Both silent hunters, each in their way, But the tides in the winds bring whispers of

[18:33:51] Betrayal today.

[18:33:53] After further digging, here's what happened.

[18:34:00] Canix was number 2 on the Dispel List.

[18:34:02] He died right before he was supposed to get dispelled.

[18:34:04] It jumped to Feanor who then had 2 stacks and tried to run to the boss to get it up,

[18:34:08] but the previous stack expired before it could because Canix was one that the weak orc

[18:34:12] side was going to get dispelled next.

[18:34:13] So they lost the stack.

[18:34:15] It snowballed very quickly, right?

[18:34:17] Canix got hit by a trail right before he was going to get dispelled.

[18:34:19] It did in fact jump, it didn't lose the debuff.

[18:34:21] It could have been recovered with extraordinary luck and reflexes, because that extra stack

[18:34:26] did go to Thanerha too.

[18:34:27] He could have gone to Spell, both of them onto the boss, but the timing was wild.

[18:34:31] At that point, Thanerha was saying, okay, on third, Canix is second, Canix is going,

[18:34:35] Canix yells, I'm dead, I can't do it.

[18:34:37] Next person needed to run in and get it.

[18:34:39] And also, you also have to dodge the other half of the read, right?

[18:34:42] If you're a red gang, you have to avoid blue gang and the other way around.

[18:34:44] It's also important to remember that this is happening at the same time as the

[18:34:48] charge which involves six other players of various orbs in your way lining up the

[18:34:53] webs in the charge so very hectic moment where you don't want a betrayal death to

[18:34:57] throw your plan off the rails. What happens if one of the players with the

[18:35:01] webs gets a dispel on them? Do they just have to get in there while they're

[18:35:04] carrying the webs or is having the webs a way of not having the spell on you?

[18:35:09] I don't believe it is but I can verify that. We are having I mean

[18:35:13] sometimes we're having eight people with the webs because we're lining up

[18:35:16] four webs to try and put it in.

[18:35:17] You can indeed have both the webs and the stinging swarm.

[18:35:21] Okay, so you can just be really screwed.

[18:35:23] Good to know.

[18:35:24] Good to know.

[18:35:24] Excellent overlap.

[18:35:26] If you die and you're close enough to Decach,

[18:35:29] will it pass to Decach?

[18:35:30] Or does it always just go to another player?

[18:35:32] Does it have to be dispelled?

[18:35:34] That I don't know.

[18:35:34] He was close as thinner and it went to thinner.

[18:35:36] Because I'm arguing.

[18:35:38] You just chuckle five of them in the middle

[18:35:39] and kill them all.

[18:35:40] Kill them.

[18:35:41] And then you get it.

[18:35:43] And then everyone else dies because...

[18:35:44] So here's what happens with that. It's funny. It is funny, but they died of betrayal

[18:35:49] All the debuffs jump to the boss, which does two million red damage per

[18:35:53] debuff and kill them one by one wipes everyone else kill them one by one somehow

[18:35:57] Just if they have red and blue you can kill them two by two onto the arc

[18:36:02] They go as they betray each other die next to the boss anywhere. We're into another pool

[18:36:06] Perhaps my strategies are a little bit deliver it right. Yes. I enjoyed that

[18:36:10] That's what I'm here for, Red and Blue in 2x2.

[18:36:16] Excellent freestyle rapping skills, better than I can do, as we are indeed into another

[18:36:22] pull after Echo's very, very best.

[18:36:26] Let's get back into phase 3 and get that progression, hopefully lead into the kill,

[18:36:32] as we are once again just dealing with the charge from Anubarash in this phase.

[18:36:37] No biggie, that raid doesn't know exactly what they want to do here and how they want

[18:36:40] to do it.

[18:36:41] We'll see those venom bombs come down and they'll leave some orbs for people to collect.

[18:36:45] Nicely laid in a semi-circle around the boss.

[18:36:48] Red will go to blue, blue will go to red and all the orbs will be picked up.

[18:36:52] I always get baited by that little earth totem, water totem, whatever it is at

[18:36:57] the bottom that makes me think there's another blue orb that isn't being collected

[18:37:00] but obviously, and it's just a totem being left behind, I assume by Zatzi who

[18:37:04] who is healing up the raid as they go along.

[18:37:07] Second charge coming in a couple of moments time

[18:37:10] after these Venom bombs, the web bombs will come out.

[18:37:13] You have to go to the web bombs with your partner,

[18:37:15] pop them open, get the webs,

[18:37:17] and then stop Anubu Ash from charging in.

[18:37:19] Yes, they once again circle around the boss

[18:37:22] to collect the opposite colors orbs

[18:37:24] as we have the charge incoming.

[18:37:28] The next damage phase,

[18:37:31] you can successfully have the three webs in the way to prevent Anubarash from crashing

[18:37:37] into the wall, dealing a huge amount of damage to the entire raid. Very much causing a wipe.

[18:37:43] We've talked about this a little bit throughout the day, but I really like the lore of this fight,

[18:37:46] the fact that Anubarash and Takahashi kind of hate each other, and the way you do more damage

[18:37:51] to Anubarash is through the help of Takahashi with the web bombs, and the way you do more

[18:37:54] damage to Takahashi is through the help of the Stinging Swarm from Anubarash. They're both

[18:37:59] buying for Queen Anstorix affections or attention I guess I don't know if there's a sort of a love

[18:38:04] triangle going on there if it's just attention. It's very thematic because you are using the

[18:38:10] other bosses mechanics to kind of interrupt the other bosses mechanics so it's very cool. I like

[18:38:17] the way that they're incorporating a lot of the lore into the fight itself. I appreciate that a

[18:38:21] lot as we are into the first intermission rotating around the boss once again to collect

[18:38:27] the opposite colours orbs avoiding the webs. We do unfortunately lose Meres.

[18:38:33] I don't know if there was an orb left on the floor if that's a betrayal because

[18:38:37] Wolf Disco's down as well. Yeah usually when I think Meres went down and then

[18:38:42] everyone's dying. disc uh well penguin disco yeah wolf disco the penguin disco as well.

[18:38:49] Sometimes with the different character names I am unsure of what to call it. Oh it gets me all

[18:38:52] the time. We have to be consistent so that people know who we're talking about when we've

[18:38:55] I've referred to Wolf as Wolf the whole time, but now he's on Penguin Disco, so it doesn't quite work.

[18:39:00] Yeah, I'm so used to reading nameplates and it just confused, I'd say Penguin, I was like,

[18:39:03] that's not Penguin, that's actually Wolf Disco. And Yankob is just Yank, so I'm just like,

[18:39:08] oh, should I call him Yank? Do I call him Yankob? It's all, it's a little tricky.

[18:39:12] Especially when you haven't known these players for the longest time. Jesse ready to inform us once again?

[18:39:18] That is correct. I have some very pertinent analysis because I couldn't help but look at chat

[18:39:22] And I did notice a question about games for love, which was specifically how much of the money they raise goes to children instead of their own

[18:39:29] overhead

[18:39:29] This is also subject to analysis which we did engage in and I've pulled this up if we want to look at it from the Max

[18:39:34] Roll analysis desk you can go to charity navigator a

[18:39:38] Organization that rates charities look for games for love and find out everything you'd like to know about their finances

[18:39:43] They are indeed a 100%

[18:39:45] four-star charity if you go to the accountability and finance section you can ascertain that

[18:39:49] that they have very good ratings across the board

[18:39:53] on all of these key accountability metrics,

[18:39:55] including their financial metrics,

[18:39:57] drilling down specifically to their program expense ratio.

[18:40:00] That tells you how much of the money they raise

[18:40:02] goes to their administrative overhead

[18:40:04] of hiring staff and people to manage the charity,

[18:40:06] versus how much goes to the children they help.

[18:40:08] With a ratio of 85.41%, they get 25 out of 25 points

[18:40:12] and are rated as an excellent charity for your donations.

[18:40:15] There we are in form for you.

[18:40:16] I also see we've had a $100 donation come in,

[18:40:18] but we'll look at that after the pull, I think,

[18:40:22] as we're gonna go after the kill.

[18:40:24] In fact, it's what I've been told by Rasmus,

[18:40:26] so it could be a few hours, guys.

[18:40:27] Might even be next week, depending on where we are.

[18:40:30] Well, as a WoW player, my week restarts on Wednesday,

[18:40:35] as the reset comes in for Wednesday on EU.

[18:40:38] The reset comes in, and I'm like,

[18:40:40] hey, I've got an entire week to do stuff,

[18:40:42] and I blink in it's Tuesday, and I'm like,

[18:40:44] oh no, we can only do this till 4 a.m.

[18:40:47] I'm hoping to do my alt-weeklies today, I do not have the time to go through everything on this game.

[18:40:52] We did some Mythic Clubs today?

[18:40:53] Yeah, it was my main though, because I haven't done stuff on that character.

[18:40:56] Oh yeah, because you have a Windwalker.

[18:40:58] Yeah, it's my secondary, but still learning that class.

[18:41:01] At the moment, days are, am I working or am I not?

[18:41:04] And that will continue until probably the start of November when Worlds ends.

[18:41:08] I think that's kind of the same for these Raiders, you know?

[18:41:11] Am I playing or am I not?

[18:41:12] and currently they are playing every day until this boss does fall and until Ancerek follows

[18:41:17] suit hopefully shortly after. Yeah once again making sure that they are collecting the orbs so

[18:41:24] that they don't explode because every time a player takes an orb they get the dot. If an orb is

[18:41:29] missed the entire group gets the dot. So have to be very careful as some of these ethical

[18:41:35] soakers have been taking two orbs and if there is an orb that then goes off they will have

[18:41:40] the dreaded three and once you get three stacks it is over for you that is unhealable.

[18:41:47] Yeah I think death tends to be unhealable unless you could take a defib with you I guess.

[18:41:53] Yeah yeah you don't see it's kind of the mechanic that they've implemented where

[18:41:57] they intend you to go to two max and as soon as you exceed that it is death as they will be

[18:42:03] stopping the charge once again. Yeah Tom increase damage. On top of that scarab as well to make

[18:42:09] make sure that it doesn't get too fixated on anyone for too long. If they do survive

[18:42:14] for a long time, they become CC immune and get extra movement speed, meaning they can

[18:42:18] run up to you and swipe you with their claws. Now Anubraash will move into the second phase.

[18:42:23] Once again, below 75% HP, which is kind of what we're looking at going into intermission

[18:42:29] at number one.

[18:42:30] Yes, 73%. This is an excellent person to the intermission here for Echo, as they

[18:42:37] They will once again be merry-go-rounding around the boss in an orderly fashion, soaking the

[18:42:42] orbs, dodging the webs, no die.

[18:42:46] That is succinct, but eloquent.

[18:42:48] Excellent analysis from me.

[18:42:49] I mean, sometimes all you gotta do is...

[18:42:51] No touchy, no die.

[18:42:53] Yeah.

[18:42:54] Why use many words when a few words good, do you know?

[18:42:57] Orp, good, blue, not red.

[18:43:02] Pick up.

[18:43:03] Dash.

[18:43:04] I would be an excellent ray leader.

[18:43:06] I think the sync is important.

[18:43:07] 100% definitely agree.

[18:43:09] Just trying words now out.

[18:43:11] As they have 14% left on the shield,

[18:43:13] they are not trying to break this as fast as possible.

[18:43:15] They are extending the phase all the time

[18:43:18] that they stay in this phase to allow their cooldowns

[18:43:20] to come off of cooldown,

[18:43:22] while not taking too much damage

[18:43:23] because there is pulsing damage out

[18:43:24] across the entire raid at this point.

[18:43:26] So they don't want to stay in too long

[18:43:27] as we now go into a phase two.

[18:43:30] That we're doing this is to Kaja's moment

[18:43:32] in the spotlight.

[18:43:33] We will see Anubraash release a stinging swarm

[18:43:36] But before that, we have to deal with the grips, which have been a problem from time to time.

[18:43:41] Not so much so in the last few pulls, but now I've said that, we are absolutely doomed.

[18:43:45] One of the blue or the red teams will get grip through at first, it was blue.

[18:43:48] They scattered to the sides, red goes through the middle, break their own webs.

[18:43:53] And there is some raid damage happening at that point.

[18:43:55] Velo falls, and now we see the dispels going down.

[18:43:58] First one's being hit, second one follows suit.

[18:44:01] We'll look for three, there it goes.

[18:44:03] PI as well, as I hope for.

[18:44:05] The spell number four goes down

[18:44:07] and now we'll hold the fifth for as long as possible

[18:44:09] because at the end of this,

[18:44:11] you have a 100% damage amp phase on Takaj.

[18:44:14] Relo Res, of course, with that combat res,

[18:44:16] 100% damage amp for the next 12 seconds,

[18:44:19] now six, now five, now four.

[18:44:21] And just to show, I can continue counting backwards,

[18:44:23] it's two and one to zero.

[18:44:25] Takaj will go through this cycle

[18:44:27] once more in this phase

[18:44:28] and then we'll move on to intermission two.

[18:44:30] just flexing on everyone that you can count.

[18:44:33] Oh, you can not only count,

[18:44:34] but you can also count backwards.

[18:44:35] Okay, the flex medic, thanks.

[18:44:37] As we will be gripped in once again,

[18:44:41] Team Red dragged in first this time,

[18:44:43] making sure that they are getting away

[18:44:45] as fast as possible as the other group

[18:44:47] will then get dragged in,

[18:44:49] collecting the opposite colors orbs,

[18:44:52] and then getting into position for the second dispel.

[18:44:56] Second round of dispels,

[18:44:59] Making sure that they are getting these scarabs under the boss with a passive cleave.

[18:45:03] And so that they do not reach their fixate target and deal too much damage to that person.

[18:45:08] As we have the final dispel here.

[18:45:12] Ooh, dispelled within a 0.6 of a second there.

[18:45:15] I mean that's fine. They're getting so much damage out in these sorts of positions anyway.

[18:45:20] 45% is where we're usually looking at going into the second intermission.

[18:45:23] You can already see T'Kars is down to 43, almost 42.

[18:45:26] In fact, we crest over that mark as we move into intermission two.

[18:45:30] Now, it's a move-out attack in the middle.

[18:45:33] It's a huge amount of damage, as you say, but you still have to survive through this phase.

[18:45:38] This is called a couple of the Raiders, a Cropper in the last couple of battles towards P3.

[18:45:43] 41 on the boss now working through the shield, 77% on it.

[18:45:47] You can see how intricate your positioning has to be, how precise you have to be with those movements

[18:45:51] because you're picking up the Orbs. You don't want to get more than two stacks, remember,

[18:45:54] because that will kill you, but you also have to dodge away from the donuts. They're going to spell your demise.

[18:45:58] Rez on Merez, Narko left sitting in the dirt, but perhaps he will watch his team take down the shield and move on to P3.

[18:46:07] Yeah, their damage is incredible, this pull. I don't know how much Narko being dead is going to set them back,

[18:46:13] but we will soon find out as they move out of the intermission. They did unfortunately lose, I think, Zartzi,

[18:46:19] But using that very powerful shaman arc very quickly to get back up and spending the battle res on

[18:46:26] Merres in the final phase. They will have three

[18:46:30] Minutes and they will need to deal with both bosses abilities first dealing with the charge

[18:46:36] The players will get gripped in either team red or team blue first

[18:46:41] And then a soak in up the orbs as well. Yeah, you can see the positioning of the bosses here to

[18:46:45] The cards are a little bit closer to the wall, meaning when that pull comes through, it's a bit easier to soak the Orbs.

[18:46:50] It also means you can direct the frontal away from Blue.

[18:46:54] Blue will get sucked in first, they move out to the right, and then we keep the webs on some of the red players.

[18:47:00] Increased damage going to come onto Anubrash after he charges back through.

[18:47:04] Here comes the charge, everyone's still just about alive. Charge in, dodge the donuts.

[18:47:08] Charges stopped, Anubrash at 35% HP.

[18:47:12] bosses continuing to fall and after this we have to deal with the dispels on to

[18:47:16] Karsh. Yeah so there is a little bit of way to get but it is a very very good

[18:47:22] that they are getting back into phase three as we will have blue team dragged

[18:47:26] in first this time red team dragged in second and now they need to rotate

[18:47:31] around the room to soak each other's orbs dodging the earthen rings going

[18:47:36] out across the platform as well. Now the dispel is incoming.

[18:47:41] Big boom in a couple seconds. Currently only sitting at one dispel on to Kar. She goes into

[18:47:47] the middle, waiting for that timer to go down. Look for two. There we are. Ten seconds left

[18:47:52] before we get that third one on. There's three. That raid damage pulsing out. We're

[18:47:56] looking for four now and one more would be enough. They've got the Stinging Delirium

[18:48:01] of the game. We're going to

[18:48:06] have to come off 25% HP on the

[18:48:08] boss 100% damage at right now.

[18:48:10] Narko and Mini are down. Seven

[18:48:12] and a half minutes on the clock

[18:48:14] about a minute 20 before we hit

[18:48:16] the hard in rage. No battle

[18:48:18] Rez is available, but now we

[18:48:19] have to deal with that

[18:48:21] crossover of mechanics. Yeah,

[18:48:22] they will have one minute for

[18:48:23] the next combat Rez, but I'm

[18:48:24] not sure if that's going to

[18:48:25] come up and now we have the

[18:48:27] hardest part of phase three.

[18:48:28] We're going to have a charge

[18:48:30] Both bosses taking 100% increased damage, that's when they'll pop the lust and see if they can get them down, the ring's out going.

[18:48:36] Yeah, red have to keep their webs so they can stop Anubrash's charge. You can see blue trying to absorb a lot of red orbs, they already lost two on their side.

[18:48:44] Zea was going to fall as well. The charge will not be stopped and Anubrash rampages into the wall and Echo falls short once again.

[18:48:53] That was tragic. One of the gentlemen who was carrying their webs in order to stop that charge got struck by the Earth and Circle and was impaled by a spike, could no longer move, got killed and they lost that web.

[18:49:05] Yeah, because not only do they have to deal with the overlap of the boss's abilities, they will also have to deal with those rings going out across the platform, disrupting their movement as well as dodging half the raid as the team blue cannot interact with team red either.

[18:49:19] There is so much happening as well as so can the Orbs as well.

[18:49:22] There's so much happening in that final phase.

[18:49:24] It is really, really difficult,

[18:49:25] but it is excellent to see them get straight back to that progress.

[18:49:29] That is significant progress for them.

[18:49:32] Very wonderful to see.

[18:49:33] Let's keep getting back there as soon as they can successfully deal with that final overlap.

[18:49:38] I think we might be in for a kill.

[18:49:40] Well, we might be.

[18:49:41] We'll have to wait and see.

[18:49:42] Before we get into the next poll, though,

[18:49:44] I do want to thank some of the people that have been donating over the last couple of hours.

[18:49:47] Thank you very much, Kenzie for the $50 saying best combo out there, Medic my favorite lead

[18:49:51] caster and OK mage my favorite wow caster. That's incredibly kind of you, Kenzie. Thank you so much.

[18:49:57] Green Balls donated $10 without a message. Thank you very much, Green Balls.

[18:50:02] Anonymous also donated $10. Thank you very much, Anonymous.

[18:50:07] Sorry, Sketchy Keys donated $25 without a message. Thank you very much.

[18:50:12] and Belly Cats donated $25 saying wonderful event as always echo incredible casters

[18:50:19] players wonderfully entertaining and a great cause guys $1 per person at 60,000

[18:50:24] viewers will be getting that goal in no time obviously $1 per person would be

[18:50:29] amazing you can start a $1 hype train if you want and we'll get to them between

[18:50:33] every single pool but also make sure you don't donate anything that you

[18:50:37] aren't comfortable with it is very important you look after yourself first

[18:50:40] And then you help where you can absolutely with $1 helping one child

[18:50:46] Fantastic charity games for love to thank you for everybody who has donated so far very very much appreciated

[18:50:53] Jesse do you have something else for us?

[18:50:55] If you want we can do a replay with the review tool of exactly what happened there

[18:50:59] Which was a catastrophic chain of events they had four webs ready to go and two of them were lost in the last

[18:51:05] Second before the charge there is not a pool timer

[18:51:09] So let me back up a little bit using this review tool first of all you see that red has been assigned to maintain their web

[18:51:17] So we come out of this with four webs preserved

[18:51:20] Zero dancing on the border of this ring quickly fall behind right yeah

[18:51:25] So dancing here on the to extend it as long as he can to not break but gets clipped as it goes out right on the edge

[18:51:32] That means he's going to go down and we're going to lose this web at the same time

[18:51:36] They still have three remaining, but unfortunately Velo is about to get hit with the third stack of an orb

[18:51:42] I believe due to a missed orb and he goes down leaving only two of their webs remaining despite the four

[18:51:49] They had begun with again important to note not anyone's particular fault an orb was missed Velo got a third stack

[18:51:54] It just goes down you lose your web

[18:51:56] It's excellent for you to give these replays because I think everything happens so quickly and I think as a viewer

[18:52:01] especially even when I'm watching it.

[18:52:03] You can't truly appreciate how difficult these bosses are.

[18:52:07] And I feel like this very much highlights

[18:52:10] how precise they have to play, how much pressure there is,

[18:52:13] how much is happening at the same time.

[18:52:15] Thank you very much, Jesse, for showing us that.

[18:52:17] Yeah, that's right.

[18:52:18] Very informative, Jesse.

[18:52:19] Great use of the tool as well.

[18:52:20] I really like that tool.

[18:52:22] Hopefully we'll be seeing more of it

[18:52:23] around in the coming week or so

[18:52:25] as we get back into another pull here

[18:52:28] of the Silicon Court.

[18:52:30] phase one relatively simple. Get the webs, stop the charge, do the damage, dodge the orbs, or pick up the orbs depending. Not as simple as I thought it was. You know, it got more complex just as I spoke about it.

[18:52:42] I like how this fight kind of eases you into it. Phase one and phase two kind of being a little bit of a tutorial of, ah, here's this bosses mechanic. This is how you deal with it. Oh, this is how this bosses mechanic works. This is how you deal with it. And then phase three is just like, okay, now everything

[18:52:57] once. What have you learned? It's like the ultimate test at the end. We took out the

[18:53:01] Venom bombs. It's okay. You don't have to deal with those. Thank you. So that's fine. How generous.

[18:53:09] The final chapter won't be on the test. Will it miss? I'm so sorry. Yes, so make sure you're

[18:53:13] right in all this down chat because you will be tested in the final phase. That you will.

[18:53:18] Frontal coming out here from Nubibash. The webs have been established up towards the top

[18:53:23] I believe unless we've already done that second charge

[18:53:27] Did I miss it? I think I did. Oh, we've done the first charge second charge is coming in seven seconds before those web bombs fall

[18:53:33] So I was a little bit too hasty there

[18:53:36] Master, maybe I think it can be very easy for these fights to somewhat blur into one

[18:53:41] So I don't think you're alone in that sometimes even when I've been raiding the pools kind of all blur into one

[18:53:46] And you can lose where you are in the fight very easily

[18:53:49] as we have the second charge now going out and it's also very nice how they've

[18:53:55] got a lot of min-maxing tech happening here with the two mages ice blocking

[18:53:59] the second venom bombs that they get so that they don't spawn an orb and they

[18:54:03] also don't take the damage so it's nice to see even immunity is utilized in a

[18:54:07] way that doesn't completely nullify an entire mechanic and cheese it but still

[18:54:12] being useful. Yeah it's utilized in a way that eases some of the pressure of

[18:54:16] mechanic, but doesn't ease the mechanic entirely, right? Like, you still have to deal with the Orbs

[18:54:21] through the rest of the phase, you're just removing one of them from play, which I think

[18:54:25] is justifiable considering how many Orbs have to be soaked through this entire fight. We're in

[18:54:30] Intermission 1, Stakaj slinging out her webs to the side. We'll see the blue team dodge back

[18:54:37] one segment here, and then move back around in that counterclockwise fashion to pick up

[18:54:42] these red orbs on the other side the red team is doing basically the same thing

[18:54:46] some of the range will be orbiting each other and just collecting their own

[18:54:49] orbs which is why it's important that all of the orbs are collected because if

[18:54:53] one of them is left open those range will immediately die because they

[18:54:57] already have two dots on them the web will explode behind them the shield

[18:55:01] expiring in about 8% of time. Yeah I think it's very nice when they do a

[18:55:05] little bit of a backtrack and place the orbs one slice back just because they

[18:55:10] seem to place the orb into the first web that's going to explode. So by the time the other team get

[18:55:15] there, there's definitely no overlap. Again, nullifying not necessarily the RNG, but nullifying

[18:55:21] as much as they possibly can, removing a lot of difficulty when they can just guarantee we're

[18:55:25] going to put it in the first one that explodes. So by the time you get here, you can definitely

[18:55:28] soak it. It's definitely going to be safe as we are into phase two. Now they'll be dealing with

[18:55:33] the five dispels and with the raid getting dragged in as well as you can see that one team

[18:55:38] will get pulled in and then the other. Yeah, nice memes, Mini and Kush there having a date with

[18:55:44] death it seems as they fell to what I can only assume is a betrayal. Losing three of them obviously

[18:55:49] not too advisable. We'll see if we have a combat res. We have one and one up in 48 seconds time.

[18:55:56] So we're gonna bring up one of them right now. Kush and nice memes still sitting on the floor

[18:56:01] watching their teammates put the damage down. We're looking for those dispels. Number five

[18:56:05] comes out. The first set of the spells not too tricky unless someone dies on the way or is otherwise

[18:56:12] perturbed by something trying to get in towards the car now. It feels like this phase

[18:56:16] still relatively simple. It's more the web pulls that are causing the trails.

[18:56:22] Yeah, they will need to deal with the dispels one more time before moving forwards into the

[18:56:27] fight, making sure that they're dealing with the frontals as they get dragged in once again.

[18:56:32] team red first this time. They

[18:56:34] have to really be careful when

[18:56:36] they're moving out that they

[18:56:37] don't overlap with how the other

[18:56:39] team is going to get dragged in.

[18:56:40] That's been causing some

[18:56:42] contention on some polls so far

[18:56:44] as unfortunately I think it

[18:56:45] did happen before.

[18:56:47] All right, the final round of

[18:56:49] dispells of phase two as the

[18:56:51] players marked with the

[18:56:52] dispell need to be standing

[18:56:54] closest to the bosses once it's

[18:56:55] removed. It jumps to the

[18:56:56] closest player. That battle

[18:56:58] res being sent on Jinji there

[18:57:00] as they have the fifth and

[18:57:01] final dispel to remove, and the boss has taken increased damage.

[18:57:04] Yep, now 100% damage, amp 4, that's 12 seconds, will expire in about 5.

[18:57:10] Nice memes and Kush likely to spend the rest of this fight watching from the sidelines as

[18:57:15] their teammates trample over their dead bodies to navigate to the orbs in the dance this

[18:57:21] fight is.

[18:57:22] We're moving to intermission 2, it's the new brash's time to shine, he'll go to

[18:57:25] the middle of the dance floor and then there'll be some donut dancing from our

[18:57:29] raiders indeed.

[18:57:30] will have one more battle res in four minutes. They may be able to squeeze out another battle res

[18:57:37] right at the very, very end of the fight. As soon as they move into phase three, they have three

[18:57:41] minutes until it invrages. So they may be able to squeeze out another DPS just as the bosses

[18:57:48] both become vulnerable with that final overlap, making sure that they are dodging these rings,

[18:57:54] picking up the opposite colors, orbs and really, really watching their feet as the shield is

[18:58:00] on around 20% holding somewhat once again just so they have their cooldowns ready for the

[18:58:06] next phase.

[18:58:07] Also, if they go into the final phase a little bit later they're more likely to have that

[18:58:11] combat res up before the hard enrage right?

[18:58:14] So if you go in at 6 minutes the final phase is 3 minutes long and that is a set time from

[18:58:20] when you finish this intermission.

[18:58:21] So usually Spike Storm takes them about 35 to 40 seconds to clear.

[18:58:25] Here it took them 52 seconds.

[18:58:27] of that is having double DPS dead of course but also I wonder if they were

[18:58:30] holding four cooldowns as you say but also to maybe have 10 extra seconds 20

[18:58:35] extra seconds with an extra man up later on in the fight. We move into phase 3

[18:58:39] first off we will see a Nubarash's mechanic where he charges forward and

[18:58:45] give you a hundred percent damage phase on that and then we'll see Takash and

[18:58:48] then we'll see them both at the same time. Alongside that in this phase

[18:58:52] we are seeing more swirlies, we're seeing more donuts, we're seeing more

[18:58:55] incidental damage that can happen so it's not just navigating those two mechanics

[18:59:00] it's doing that while making sure you pick up the orbs you dob this dodge the

[18:59:03] swirlies you dodge the fall you dodge the donuts and you stay as safe as houses

[18:59:07] for as long as possible yes they need to make sure that they are taking all of

[18:59:11] these orbs having the red stretch to stop the charge which they

[18:59:15] successfully pull off a new brush taking 100% increased damage here

[18:59:19] avoiding the frontal from to cash. Oh my goodness I remembered finally! Good job! As we get to the

[18:59:26] end of the fight, what do we do? You're not going to have to remember for much longer. This boss is

[18:59:29] dead on my screen right now. Absolutely. They're still very much on track as far as I can tell,

[18:59:34] but let's see. They make sure that they are collecting once again the orbs dodging the ring,

[18:59:40] and I think that counts as medic on the floor. I don't think so. Three people died immediately

[18:59:46] They can still get quite a lot of progression here. They still need to come out of that last overlap successfully

[18:59:53] So let's see if they can manage to stretch the web some do the dispels at the same time

[18:59:57] There's still a lot of progress that they can learn from this pool

[19:00:00] So they will keep it going even if they may well

[19:00:03] They probably like in the DPS to finally finish it off

[19:00:06] But any progress that you can get here will be extremely useful dealing with that swarm pulsing a way across the entire raid and

[19:00:13] I think they successfully

[19:00:16] the stack, Tkhaja is taking 100% increased damage. Now we'll move into the phase where we have both

[19:00:22] of them doing their mechanics at the same time. First off we have the frontal, then we have the

[19:00:27] grips, and half the team has to keep those webs on them while the other half of the team

[19:00:31] manages to dodge around and pick up those orbs. We have got five dead, that combat

[19:00:36] wears up in 40 seconds time, hard in rage, will be about 920, pick up the orbs, get the webs

[19:00:41] towards the middle, there's three of them remaining there and no one hit by them,

[19:00:44] Anubuash charges one way there. Oh, that's not a great lineup. The donut almost getting in the way.

[19:00:50] We'll see if we have the dispels. We didn't have the three webs. We had three for a second there.

[19:00:55] Someone must have died at the final moment. Those rings really messing with the web,

[19:01:01] the web tethered people. They're very, very bad overlap. They have to actually cross quite a

[19:01:06] significant portion of the room in order to get into position successfully. That is the

[19:01:12] The second time that I think what's happening is, there's a huge concatenation of circumstance.

[19:01:16] First both groups get gripped through the boss, that creates a bunch of orbs.

[19:01:20] One group preserves their webs and starts getting ready for the burrow.

[19:01:24] Another five people now have this thingy swarm that needs to get spelled on the boss and

[19:01:27] all those orbs need soaked.

[19:01:29] You go out the web having soaked two, one orb gets missed, you die, you lose the

[19:01:32] web, that's not happening twice.

[19:01:34] So they need to make sure that they're adding that step of soak all of the orbs

[19:01:38] before moving forward for you to spell

[19:01:40] or going out in order to stop the burrow

[19:01:42] so that we have enough people to soak all of them.

[19:01:44] I think that is what is causing those two problems

[19:01:46] in the last two pulls.

[19:01:47] And it's really easy to miss that

[19:01:48] because all your mind is on is,

[19:01:50] I need to get my weapon position,

[19:01:51] I need to get my dispel in position,

[19:01:53] I need to be in the right spot for the big mechanic.

[19:01:55] And sometimes you can overlook the smaller things

[19:01:57] that end up killing your teammates

[19:01:59] and then wiping the raid.

[19:02:01] The really good news, however,

[19:02:03] is that in contrast to earlier,

[19:02:05] we had a little bit of a run in P1

[19:02:07] and the intermission three of the last four pulls have all ended deep into phase three.

[19:02:11] Consistency being very important here.

[19:02:13] Yeah that's exactly what they need today getting to that phase three as cleanly as possible

[19:02:19] and even seeing it in general so it's wonderful that we are getting these pulls in phase three

[19:02:24] getting further and further into it as well making sure that they know exactly what they're doing

[19:02:29] where they're going finding their feet that final overlap as we are getting the ready check

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[19:03:42] We're into another pool though. Let's keep our minds back on the world of Warcraft ahead of us

[19:03:48] Three seconds before we get into the battle once again, and this is the time where you really have to lock in if you're

[19:03:55] accolades. Approaching the night time hours, obviously they can extend. You know, reset is

[19:04:01] at six o'clock tomorrow. They have done all of their mythic plus, they've done all of their chores,

[19:04:05] so they're just going to be looking at the great vaults and maybe doing a couple of heroic

[19:04:09] reclares depending on who needs gear. Yeah, extend is actually an interesting word. I was

[19:04:14] watching the chat a little bit earlier and I saw a few people asking if any of the guilds

[19:04:21] would be extending their lockout for anyone who may not have played well. You can essentially save

[19:04:28] your progress in the raid, what boss you got to, and keep it. Instead of it resetting

[19:04:34] upon the server reset, you can keep your lockout. So, you know, if Echo kill Silk and call it

[19:04:40] tonight, they can go straight to a new rush tomorrow on the reset, which sounds great,

[19:04:47] but then you also miss out on all of the gear that the previous bosses would have dropped

[19:04:53] because it keeps the lockout, you can't go back and kill those bosses and usually it's never worth

[19:05:00] it because let's say it takes you five hours to re-clear. Well the hours saved from the loot

[19:05:11] that's then looted from re-clearing will save you a lot of time going back to the progress

[19:05:16] That's what I'm trying to say, struggling with my words, but the loot is so impactful.

[19:05:21] Being able to get your item level higher on those bosses is going to really, really pay

[19:05:26] off when they reach Queen Ancerac because you may skip something that could deal a significant

[19:05:33] amount of damage onto the raid, depending on how that fight looks.

[19:05:35] If you can kind of push a little bit quicker into the next phase, for example, and

[19:05:40] skip a mechanic or take less damage, that is going to be very, very impactful.

[19:05:44] So I'm 99.9% sure that neither guild will extend.

[19:05:49] It was just interesting to talk about.

[19:05:51] Because a lot of people were asking.

[19:05:53] I also used the wrong terminology.

[19:05:55] What I meant was they won't get a better nine.

[19:05:58] They'll get a better like 12 when I said extend.

[19:06:00] No, you were very right.

[19:06:01] But there's also extending.

[19:06:03] I should pick my words more carefully.

[19:06:05] No, you were right.

[19:06:06] It just reminded me of the extending

[19:06:08] because I saw a lot of people asking about it.

[19:06:10] Use the correct terminology.

[19:06:11] It just sparked a thought, which isn't very often.

[19:06:13] that's why you're probably surprised. You have lots of thoughts. Don't do this to yourself,

[19:06:17] Jordan. Sometimes. You have great thoughts. Kush having some thoughts of not being dead.

[19:06:21] The Prattler has been sent. They canerize him because he is not taking it. In the intermission,

[19:06:31] how impactful is it, right? They're already delaying a little bit on the shield, not

[19:06:34] putting as much damage into it as they could. If the Rez is now, maybe there's an orb

[19:06:39] in some random place that someone then has to go and pick up. So just delay until

[19:06:43] we get into phase 2 Kush take a break take a breather take a lie down that's

[19:06:47] exactly what he's doing as we should be moving into phase two in about six

[19:06:50] percent time for this shoot yeah they are extending the time that they are in

[19:06:55] this intermission so the DPS not quite mattering now so I can imagine that the

[19:06:59] res I'm down still get another one on Kush here well maybe we just leave him

[19:07:03] down there we go the res goes back up maybe not he's back alive that he is

[19:07:07] we're moving into a phase two this is the phase where we have to put those

[19:07:11] stinging swarm dispels onto the cards. Before that though we have a massive grab

[19:07:16] in where we see half the raid splitting and the other half going through the

[19:07:20] middle. You can see grip soon, move to the left but don't really need to because

[19:07:23] the blue side has already been gripped in. In phase three you'll see these

[19:07:26] webs maintained by one of the sides to stop Anubraash's charge here. There

[19:07:30] is no Anubraash's charge and Narco because perhaps he's disappointed in

[19:07:35] that is on the floor. Obviously many ways you can die stinging swarm now

[19:07:40] being dispelled. You can see three stacks just above that boss health bar. Now four. Now wait for

[19:07:44] the final moment to dispel this last one so they get all of that extra damage out. There's the dispel

[19:07:49] and they continue putting damage into these bosses. I wonder if that was the case of the

[19:07:54] ad critically melee hitting another victim because we did see that earlier where the

[19:08:02] melee hit from the ad crit on nice memes and one shot him and they have a five percent chance

[19:08:07] I think you were saying Jesse a 5% chance to crit with their melee hit and just randomly one shot somebody

[19:08:14] I did not that it particularly matters, but I went back and looked at all's pulls combined across all pulls

[19:08:18] It's almost exactly a 10% critical strike chance

[19:08:21] 10% chance

[19:08:22] So just get hit for two and a half million for no particularly good reason

[19:08:27] Just never get close to them. Just CC them. Narka's gonna be brought back up with our second combat resume encounter

[19:08:34] So Tekar's now in the middle, looking for three stacks on her so far, trying to get that stinging

[19:08:39] swarm off there as thought.

[19:08:41] One more will make it five, they can delay, delay, delay, and tell about a second left

[19:08:45] on the clock.

[19:08:46] They did it at two this time, and didn't really care for that extra seconds worth

[19:08:49] of damage.

[19:08:50] Boss is sitting just under 50%, we expect them to be around 45% going into the second

[19:08:56] intermission.

[19:08:57] Yeah, which they have rapidly passed, this is looking very, very good as they have 43% on the bosses.

[19:09:06] No combat resists.

[19:09:07] No combat resists, they may get one very late interface through.

[19:09:11] The last three times I've gotten to the shield have been at 44, 42 and 41%, so they've left the 45% marker behind.

[19:09:19] Okay, I will reassess my evaluation.

[19:09:22] I think 45% is still enough to kill the boss, but right now,

[19:09:26] Absolutely.

[19:09:27] Echo, we're doing a lot more damage than needed in those initial stages,

[19:09:30] which means less damage to be done in the final phase of the fight.

[19:09:34] Right now, they're all trying to survive this onslaught of spikes,

[19:09:37] of donuts, of earth, and flame as they manage to maneuver themselves

[19:09:42] and extricate themselves from a sticky situation.

[19:09:45] Still 10% of damage left on this shield,

[19:09:48] but that will fall liquidy split as the spike storm is removed

[19:09:51] after 37 and a half seconds.

[19:09:53] All right, we're back into phase three.

[19:09:55] this is exactly what you want to see back to back phase three holes to get the

[19:10:01] important time spent dealing with those overlaps finding their feet as now they

[19:10:06] will be dealing with both of the bosses. Ultimates let's say they'll be dealing

[19:10:10] with the charge and the dispels first of all getting grouped in making sure

[19:10:17] that they are moving in a way that does not disrupt the other group getting

[19:10:21] pulled in. Here come that web Vortex. Drag in dash out. We'll see some of these webs being kept for

[19:10:30] Anubarash's charge later on. Usually it's the red side that do that and they have done that

[19:10:34] relatively well. Absorb the orbs. There comes the charge from Anubarash. Should be stopped

[19:10:39] on top of Takaj. Zero is down but there's the charge in. Anubarash stopped. Zero still down

[19:10:46] and no combat res to bring him back up. 34% on the boss right now. Next up we'll see that

[19:10:53] dispel mechanic happening in about 15 seconds time onto the car. There's an orb at the back

[19:10:59] of the room. Is anyone going to die to it? Are they going to be absorbed? Remember, we

[19:11:03] see two going down Robin and Yankob have fallen. Still with four down, it is possible

[19:11:10] Reco, but perhaps not with five falling to the floor.

[19:11:13] No, unfortunately not. We do lose one of the tanks here, and again, I think that is a white...

[19:11:21] Yeah, it could have been that the orb may have been dropped by Zoro.

[19:11:26] It's the orb that Zoro should have soaked, but he was dead so he could not.

[19:11:30] And they needed one of the melee group to come grab it, and they did not in time.

[19:11:34] He's one of the ranged at satellite orbiting people doing the webs and things like that.

[19:11:40] He's there with his partner.

[19:11:42] Exactly.

[19:11:43] That makes sense. It's tricky, but again, P3.

[19:11:46] There are so many pieces to this fight.

[19:11:49] Yeah, just absorb the orbs, dodge the donuts, dispel the swarm.

[19:11:55] Stop the charge.

[19:11:57] Yeah, avoid half of your raid.

[19:12:00] Yeah, don't get hit by the webs. Pick up the orbs.

[19:12:02] if you can make it rhyme it must be simple that's my general rule with these things

[19:12:08] if you can make it rhyme you can do the time they can do it in time

[19:12:15] here we go freestanding from me I think I was pretty successful

[19:12:19] yeah that was good that was good you found the rhyme you just couldn't quite get to the finish line

[19:12:23] I rhymed it okay nobody said it had to make sense as they go into the next

[19:12:27] They are 3 out of 3, I'm not trying to correct you.

[19:12:32] They are 3 out of 3 getting into the last phase in the most recent pulls, so 3 for 3 and 4 from 5 of the 5 most recent pulls.

[19:12:39] So extraordinary improvement in consistency over the last couple of hours.

[19:12:42] 8p1 wipes, let's go.

[19:12:44] No!

[19:12:45] It's going to happen quickly before we get into another pool counter.

[19:12:49] We had a couple more donations coming in over the last few moments.

[19:12:51] I don't want people to be left on red for too long.

[19:12:53] Anonymous donated $5, thank you very much.

[19:12:56] donated $7.77 cents. Nice. I said I still don't know what seven means and at this point I'm too

[19:13:03] afraid to ask. I think we're all in that. Seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven, seven.

[19:13:10] As we are in pool, seven, four. Which is seven times what, 140? You need 44 from there. You

[19:13:18] can't get there with sevens, can you? Get to 42. It's the best pool being 12.7.

[19:13:25] There you go, we snuck in eventually.

[19:13:28] Nice, excellent.

[19:13:29] Excellent.

[19:13:30] As we are dodging venom bombs, leaving their orbs behind, we've got these little ranged

[19:13:36] pairs and you'll see the mages will ice block the next venom, the venom bombs that drop

[19:13:44] after this, which is a very nice little bit of tech where they can use their amoons

[19:13:47] in a defensive way rather than, uh, cheesing anything as they will be dealing with

[19:13:53] The first charge, the three webs preventing the boss from crashing into the wall.

[19:13:59] Yep, I'm doing it well.

[19:14:01] They feel like they've got P1 down to a science now.

[19:14:04] Like phase one, should be clean, shouldn't see anyone falling.

[19:14:08] I will sit on the floor if we see someone die in this P1 because I have truly cursed

[19:14:12] it.

[19:14:13] But there's the frontal coming out, next up we'll have those adds and then the

[19:14:17] webs in a little while as well.

[19:14:19] The tank costs are not too impactful these days, but we talked a lot about that piercing

[19:14:24] strike yesterday, but now that we're double tanking, it really doesn't matter that much.

[19:14:28] That's something for people who tank to worry about, not us people who care about the DPS

[19:14:32] meters.

[19:14:33] They're just switching between them, making sure that piercing strike is tanked by each

[19:14:37] of them successively.

[19:14:38] All picked up web bombs on the floor now we'll see those lines put across again

[19:14:43] those sticky webs going to stop a new barrage in his charge.

[19:14:47] Yeah, making sure that these scarabs, which are fixating various players, are getting knocked into the bosses to get that passive cleave going and preventing them from reaching their fixate target as we successfully stop the second and final charge of phase one.

[19:15:05] See how much damage they can put into the boss. I wasn't paying too much attention to the phase one health, but I think 75% is what they've been consistently reaching.

[19:15:15] Yeah, about 75, 74 or so.

[19:15:17] So this is relatively normal for them.

[19:15:21] Yeah, there we go.

[19:15:22] We've got the 74.1 in intermission number one.

[19:15:25] Again, rotating around the boss.

[19:15:28] We have the little pairs that range

[19:15:30] to a soaking each other's orbs at the back.

[19:15:32] We have the melee camp here at the boss

[19:15:34] as they will be placing them on the first web that spawns

[19:15:37] so that they're definitely safe

[19:15:39] when the other color go around to soak them.

[19:15:42] Yeah, there we are.

[19:15:43] All the orbs are soaked up for now.

[19:15:45] still 30% on the pot. Why would you say such a thing? It's yeah. I agree. I agree. I know

[19:15:56] the power of a cast. Intermission is very clean in comparison. Someone's going to die

[19:16:01] with 8% left on the shield now that you've said that. Can I full slow? No, no, no, no,

[19:16:05] hopeful almost dies as well. No, okay, but they've got stoked these all and they come

[19:16:08] out of the. Merus died at the end of the intermission. Merus died. They'll come

[19:16:14] bat resin still a long way to go in the fight of course still very doable here for echo but

[19:16:20] I don't really blame production from asking for the floor he was doing it for content

[19:16:27] floor mage floor mage floor mage okay if you want me to move the table back a little bit

[19:16:33] for you all oh that's heavier than I was expecting there you are floor mage fine fine you win

[19:16:39] now it's blessed now we're gonna kill the boss we have flawed the caster

[19:16:44] We have Echoed Flores with their gameplay if they're able to kill it here as well.

[19:16:49] Nice one, Medic. Good job.

[19:16:51] 68% on the boss. The frontal coming out, remember.

[19:16:54] In P2 all we care about are those dispels, and obviously all the damage in the orbs that we have to pick up as well.

[19:17:00] Big boom interrupted with that final dispel.

[19:17:03] As we see the damage amp onto Takaj, meaning she falls below 60% into the 59%, into the 58% mark.

[19:17:12] and then we'll move on to those web grips and the second dispel.

[19:17:16] I feel like I'm learning because I feel like I'm sitting at a desk now with my hands perched upon it.

[19:17:21] I'll be making notes.

[19:17:22] You can have a notebook.

[19:17:23] Oh, thank you.

[19:17:25] Excellent.

[19:17:26] Okay, you take notes.

[19:17:28] Why are there sassy-looking drawings in here?

[19:17:31] The little smiley faces and the drawings of Preach.

[19:17:35] Webbs are broken.

[19:17:37] Now we move into the frontal and then all of these dispels having to go onto the car

[19:17:42] You can see two on her already everyone dodging away minis a fallen

[19:17:46] But he can be combat res three dispels looking for four and then to make it five and get that damage amp out once again

[19:17:54] Still six seconds five seconds before we need that final dispel though do it with two

[19:17:59] They know they have the damage to spare. They don't have to delay for too much longer instead

[19:18:03] They just want to get to p3 again

[19:18:05] And that is exactly what they are intending to do boss falling down below that 45 percent mark that we talked about previously

[19:18:12] Even to 43 percent. Yeah, we want those back to back to back phase three pulls

[19:18:18] It's very nice because these scarabs providing a little bit of funnelling to the enhance shaman's here who have quite

[19:18:25] Significant of funnel. They are absolutely

[19:18:27] absolutely blasting as we are in intermission number two, doing the same as intermission

[19:18:33] one, rotating around the boss, soaking the orbs, but having to deal with the rings instead

[19:18:39] of the webs that kind of going out in slices across the room.

[19:18:43] Alright, success.

[19:18:45] So far, still 45% left on this shield, before they can really call this one a good play.

[19:18:51] The donut's coming out, you can see people dodging to the front and back of it.

[19:18:55] Zero is down though and with no combat res, he's likely not coming back to life.

[19:19:00] Nounk for him either must have used it in a previous pull.

[19:19:03] The shield will fall though with only one dead.

[19:19:05] It's still possible for Echo, although a little bit more tricky,

[19:19:09] especially for the red team who will be soaking up more orbs.

[19:19:12] Ten orbs divided by nine doesn't go one apiece,

[19:19:15] so someone will be soaking up two,

[19:19:17] meaning no orbs can be left on the ground,

[19:19:19] otherwise that is instant death for them.

[19:19:21] 40% on the boss as we move towards the start of P3.

[19:19:25] Yeah, they will need to make sure

[19:19:27] that they are not leaving any of these orbs unsoaked,

[19:19:29] otherwise it will put the dot across the entire raid,

[19:19:32] making sure that those ethical soakers

[19:19:35] who are taking two orbs will definitely die

[19:19:37] as it will put them on the three stacks.

[19:19:42] As they now get dragged in,

[19:19:43] Team Blue getting dragged in first.

[19:19:45] And the dodge away as well.

[19:19:46] Second, and they have to make sure

[19:19:48] that they're going back over

[19:19:49] and soaking the other teams orbs here,

[19:19:51] dodging the lines and they also have to interrupt the charge as well as the webs get put into

[19:19:57] position successfully preventing the charge here and Nubarash taking 100% increased damage

[19:20:04] trying to get out and squeeze out as much as they possibly can in this 12 second window

[19:20:11] and then they will be moving on to the next part of phase three which is the web

[19:20:16] dragon into the dispels still dodging the rings still only on the floor we'll look to the dispel

[19:20:24] coming up in a couple of moments time Jinji follows suit joining his poor and comrade

[19:20:30] we have those webs being pulled apart the dispel one already sitting on to car she

[19:20:35] jumps to the middle of the room with that teleport there's two nine seconds before we have to

[19:20:39] apply three but we're putting her on rapidly right now as we're looking for four there we are

[19:20:44] one more. We'll put that damage amp onto Takaj. It hits 66% on the bosses and a bloodlust in our

[19:20:51] pockets. If you really want to put the damage down with two DPS down though, it's going to be a

[19:20:56] tight squeeze. Yeah, they will have the next combat res in just over one minute. They may be able

[19:21:03] to res somebody just before that final push. The final push being ominous as they are getting

[19:21:10] into position, ready to get dragged in once again. Now they'll have to deal with the hardest

[19:21:16] overlap of phase three, where they'll need to interrupt the charge and also get the dispels.

[19:21:22] Alright, blue team collecting as many of these red orbs as they can. Red team collecting

[19:21:27] up all of the blue orbs as they now have to put webs into position to prevent the

[19:21:32] second charge successfully. Second charge is prevented. I don't know if you've got

[19:21:37] the spells are one two looking for more three four it's a huge pull so far get

[19:21:43] the fourth dispel on the fifth as well bloodlust is ticking and those bosses

[19:21:47] are melting 13 percent on them down to 12 look for 10 now still with two DPS on

[19:21:52] the floor we should have the damage to get through this they'll move into the

[19:21:56] hardened rage but echo are going to do it six percent on the boss down to five

[19:22:01] Echo looking for that world second, the first team in Europe to defeat the

[19:22:08] Silicon Court. Only Ansarek awaits as Echo do it just before the reset 2% left

[19:22:18] and that in rage means nothing as Echo will clean up the Silicon Court and

[19:22:24] Ansarek awaits Echo tomorrow!

[19:22:28] absolutely. The bosses are

[19:22:33] falling. There you go. You can

[19:22:36] see everybody absolutely

[19:22:39] blasting. That was wonderful to

[19:22:41] see what an excellent poll. They

[19:22:43] got such significant progression

[19:22:45] getting those back to back phase

[19:22:47] through polls and eventually

[19:22:49] getting it down. Congratulations

[19:22:51] to team Echo. All we needed to

[19:22:53] do was floor one of the

[19:22:55] You can get up now. I got it. Sadly, no spy masters web

[19:23:04] We have the convergent

[19:23:06] connivers badge the advisors favor and a couple of colossal

[19:23:10] mandibles that was a

[19:23:13] Fantastic pull from echo. They were doing so much damage the first time that they

[19:23:19] successfully deal with the two bosses, doing their ultimate abilities at the same time and

[19:23:25] they get that killed down as we do have a replay here in the very last moments.

[19:23:30] It's all about keeping people alive right? They had so much damage moving in towards

[19:23:34] that enrage but you can see, you're just pumping it out 15% when they pop the blood

[19:23:38] less and then after that, what are a new progression to Kars gonna do? Robin and

[19:23:43] Meris doing a great job tanking that enrage for as long as possible. Robin falls

[19:23:47] but no one else even has to die to the enrage. The Silkencourt is down. You can see Cush's reaction as well.

[19:23:55] He was struggling a little bit through some of those pulls, but the ethical gamer that he was

[19:24:01] soaking those extra orbs. It's huge for Echo to take that down before the reset tomorrow.

[19:24:07] They have some time to get a few pulls on Ancerek as well if they want.

[19:24:11] We also have a great gift for you alongside the loot that has been picked up by the Silkencourt.

[19:24:16] the Corsair Boss Drops will be coming in. I kind of saw it animate on the screen there for a second.

[19:24:22] And there we go. All right. Look, we got a K65 Max and a Simitar Elite Wireless.

[19:24:30] Yes, this is the exact mouse that I play with as well. It is fantastic. It's extremely lightweight.

[19:24:36] You can key bind so many buttons to all of those buttons down the side of the mouse and it

[19:24:41] is wireless. It is very, very nice. You also have the K65 Max wireless keyboard as well.

[19:24:46] those keys feel immaculate while you're playing and you can enter the giveaway with exclamation

[19:24:52] mark silkencourt in the chat know the all one word exclamation mark silkencourt if you don't

[19:24:59] know how to spell it look at the top right corner of the screen right now s i l k e n c o u r t

[19:25:07] whoa what a fantastic display from echo managing to down silkencourt by half seven

[19:25:15] That means that they can get enough rest in ready for the reset which is incoming tomorrow.

[19:25:20] They didn't have to stay up too late, didn't have to push themselves too hard.

[19:25:24] And now they have a wonderful evening of Delves, mayhaps.

[19:25:28] Oh, Delves! Excellent kill, lads. Time for some Delves.

[19:25:33] Delves or beans, Delves or beans.

[19:25:35] I think we need a bean delivery to the raiders now.

[19:25:37] Congratulations, here's some beans.

[19:25:41] They'll probably just look at me like...

[19:25:43] I think Preach has a few cans still in the back of his room so you can build it and do that.

[19:25:48] Oh my goodness you could hear those cheers of victory even in here. It was wonderful. I'm sure the

[19:25:55] atmosphere is immaculate. They are extremely happy to have taken the Silkencourt kill.

[19:26:04] I have been informed. We've been informed of something incredibly

[19:26:07] Do you want to break the news?

[19:26:09] No, you can break the news.

[19:26:11] We are getting a few polls on Queen Ancerac.

[19:26:18] On stream.

[19:26:19] On stream.

[19:26:20] We are all going to be able to see the final boss of this raid tier.

[19:26:26] On stream as they make their way over to her platform.

[19:26:32] This is incredibly exciting.

[19:26:34] Well, we do get to see the final boss on the first week. We weren't sure if we was gonna be able to I'm gonna be so annoyed

[19:26:42] If that Nord VVM screen comes up now the Sam has told me we are getting it

[19:26:48] Okay, we have spoken to the boss himself and we will be seeing a few calls of answer

[19:26:54] Now we're not gonna promise you much the expectation is they won't get out of P1

[19:26:59] But we will see phase one at least there is answer

[19:27:02] working her way down on her web preparing to make this exciting we get to

[19:27:10] see Queen Ancerac just before the reset I was saying oh seven point two nine

[19:27:20] billion health ah that feels low wait I mean we have what do we have on

[19:27:27] Kvesa 7.5 so it's less health than Kvesa however on this boss oh we saw 7.5 on

[19:27:36] this boss no I'm saying this is lesson Kvesa on this boss this boss oh you're

[19:27:42] hinting at a mythic phase okay you're hinting at the Zalli toes I didn't

[19:27:45] realize obviously there is there are phases where you can't damage and

[19:27:48] strike like when she's in the middle and you're going there the platforms

[19:27:51] but less total health than Kvesa more health for one boss than the

[19:27:56] combined health of the Silicon Court if you divide that by two it'll be less than this so it is a lot

[19:28:02] of health it's not as much as we have seen the question is is it one-shotable we will see

[19:28:10] you know what sure yes yes it is they one shot the first three bosses how hard can this one be

[19:28:16] this is probably easier than rationale let's be honest yeah it doesn't even fly

[19:28:20] I'll be honest, I can't remember most of my notes for this boss. I remember that I could

[19:28:26] roll with him such a huge cast of notes for a while.

[19:28:29] Honestly, I tried to make notes for this boss, but with it not being tested pre raid launch,

[19:28:36] this is the first time we're seeing it on Mythic. There's only so much you can kind

[19:28:39] of get to understand from the dungeon journal, you know, so we will see. So I feel like

[19:28:46] I'm trying to get more.

[19:28:47] Your notes wouldn't have been that useful anyway.

[19:28:50] More froth, more foam, more venom, more webs.

[19:28:54] Just everything.

[19:28:55] More of everything?

[19:28:56] Okay, let's see what.

[19:28:57] Yeah, so I went through it and I couldn't really, it kind of seemed like the mythic mechanics

[19:29:02] were building upon mechanics that already existed rather than having specific mythic

[19:29:07] mechanics.

[19:29:08] For example, on Silicon Court, there was a very, very specific mythic change with

[19:29:13] the orbs.

[19:29:14] mythic mechanic but it seemed like with Queen Anceract kind of just added a

[19:29:18] little bit to everything throughout the encounter? Yeah like the grasp and silk

[19:29:22] reducing movement speed inflicting a ton of damage if anyone stands near you like

[19:29:26] that sort of stuff. There's also a mythic mechanic here on the shadow gates

[19:29:29] apparently where some things happen. I'll be honest can't understand my notes.

[19:29:35] Dungeon Dungeon was not that easy to read. Yeah it is a lot. The ads do a lot

[19:29:42] more damage in AoEs. There's going to be a lot of spreading and there's going to be a

[19:29:47] lot of dodging mechanics. Alright, write that down. Spread and dodge. Spread and dodge.

[19:29:54] More damage. This is extremely exciting. I can't imagine we will get too much progress

[19:30:01] on to this boss as the reset is looming, but mayhaps. Mayhaps we can. Let's see how

[19:30:08] far we can go. This is the first time anyone is seeing Queen Ancerac on Mythic in the world.

[19:30:16] This is an extremely exciting event. That is, I cannot wait to see it first. Merus has

[19:30:23] to be a little Luke Goblin to decide who deserves what gear. Did we get two neck pieces? We

[19:30:30] got two of the mandibles, which are two-handers. Oh. Which is pretty cool. Two weapons.

[19:30:36] Yeah two weapons. I'm not sure how best they are for people, but I feel like mythic anyway. That's eye level, you know

[19:30:42] Not great loot. No. When you see a two-ended weapon going to your Holy Belladon, not the...

[19:30:48] Ah okay, I didn't see who it was. In comparison to the web spinners trinket

[19:30:54] The spymasters web. Sorry trinket that we saw dropped for liquid yesterday. This loot is the...

[19:31:00] Hey, but the warrior got one?

[19:31:03] Yes, Brebe's got the two handers, but also what's more important is that now that they

[19:31:12] have killed the silkenclaw mythic, this boss's loot table will be added to their mythic vault.

[19:31:18] So that is very significant.

[19:31:21] Maybe they'll be lucky and get some more trinkets and other more trinkets maybe in

[19:31:27] that is coming on the reset tomorrow.

[19:31:31] Did Mera's write a note to himself?

[19:31:33] Like, if he hovered over the right bit where it says notes and it just says Omega-Biss.

[19:31:39] I mean, yeah, there are other people who decided to do it as well.

[19:31:43] It's just funny that he's looking at his own note that says Omega-Biss.

[19:31:47] Biss for right now.

[19:31:49] Wait, they're going to give it to Kush?

[19:31:52] The problem with the loot system in most guilds, including Echo, is that if you

[19:31:55] just have a category of this or not this. Everyone will say this because they know they

[19:31:58] won't get it if they don't. Yeah. There was a period of time when Echo had multiple categories

[19:32:02] of this, you know, kind of this, super this, and omega this. What is kind of this though?

[19:32:07] Because this is I want it. It's this for right now. No, okay. This stands for best in slots.

[19:32:13] No, no, no. How can it be kind of best in slot if it's best in slot is best in

[19:32:17] slot if it's an upgrade then. But if you don't say this, you won't get the

[19:32:21] Oh, I see. You have to say this to get the loot.

[19:32:23] Wait, is this why I never got loot?

[19:32:25] Because I was an ethical looter.

[19:32:26] I was never rolling bis because it wasn't, and I never won loot.

[19:32:30] I've been gamed by the sister.

[19:32:31] I only vote bis because I actually hit a game, apparently.

[19:32:34] But can you roll bis in normal loot?

[19:32:37] Is need greed or do you need?

[19:32:42] We all did that in the mythic dungeon that we did today.

[19:32:45] This ring dropped, and immediately everyone was like,

[19:32:47] do you need?

[19:32:48] I knew it was my key, so I got it.

[19:32:50] That's how it works.

[19:32:50] Yeah, also you were very kind and you gave it to me well

[19:32:55] Because it is actually best for me. Yeah

[19:32:57] Hang on a second. No wait wait wait wait wait wait actually Jesse

[19:33:01] Wait hold on a second get up the Maxwell raid Fresa Volca guide. I was trying to learn

[19:33:06] I want the gear section so I can prove to Jordan. It was actually best hang on

[19:33:11] I forfeited Luke today due to oh, it's best for me am I getting bamboozled? No, it was actually this

[19:33:16] I'm gonna prove it to you. We were doing grimper toll and it was a ring

[19:33:20] All right

[19:33:22] What else it's this oh, that's I want you to show people the show Jordan a ring was this did it have stats

[19:33:29] Yes, but no

[19:33:32] It's on the preservation of ochre guide on max roll. Oh my goodness the ready check has gone out

[19:33:38] It looks like we are going for the

[19:33:41] The very first sentence of that guide says due to the way stat weights work. This isn't a best-in-slot list

[19:33:47] All right, get an annihilated box.

[19:33:49] Can we get a...

[19:33:50] It does say BIS on it.

[19:33:52] It's like best in slot selection.

[19:33:54] And then it says there isn't a BIS in slot.

[19:33:56] I didn't read the first line, so I've just been picking up all of those items.

[19:34:00] That'll be fine.

[19:34:01] It'll be fine.

[19:34:02] I'm like 45% mastery now.

[19:34:03] You're doing plus twos.

[19:34:04] It's okay.

[19:34:05] Hey, it was a plus four.

[19:34:06] It was a plus four.

[19:34:07] Which is the old plus 22.

[19:34:08] And we didn't time it.

[19:34:10] No, we did.

[19:34:11] No, we did.

[19:34:12] We didn't time the plus five.

[19:34:13] We kept wiping.

[19:34:14] And then our rogue left after getting caught in 10 tentacles.

[19:34:16] How'd you make an octopus laugh by the way?

[19:34:18] It's always the person that fails that leaves you so painful

[19:34:21] I mean I kept failing as well, but I couldn't leave it with my key

[19:34:26] How'd you make an octopus laugh?

[19:34:28] How?

[19:34:29] We give him pentacles

[19:34:34] That was very good, I liked it

[19:34:36] You can do random applause

[19:34:37] Random applause?

[19:34:38] Yeah, my drama teacher used to make us always do the actual math

[19:34:42] I was sad for you earlier when you met the tribute reference and no one laughed

[19:34:46] one left. I thought about laughing but then it was too late. The pool timer has gone out!

[19:34:50] Oh yeah, here we go. Okay. Alright, the very first pull on stream for the final boss of Narobar

[19:34:57] Palace, let's go. This is very exciting. I was so worried for a second there that they were going

[19:35:03] to put up the over like, boss already down to 99% guys. This is huge. Ligify comes out,

[19:35:09] these puddles will stay on the floor. Now we are looking for the Venom Nova, which is the

[19:35:14] bomb you have to try the ring that you have to jump over that's a heroic

[19:35:18] mechanic that we usually see the root landing on everyone into the web late

[19:35:22] oh no wait oh no so you have to you have to clear the root immediately

[19:35:29] because the web blades come in within half a second apparently

[19:35:32] all right here's the nova this is tindral vibes for sure because we also lost

[19:35:37] rubbin in about two seconds yes that was i was expecting the kind of pull

[19:35:42] the boss one chart that didn't

[19:35:47] have the dungeon journal. There's

[19:35:50] some ha going on right now. I'm

[19:35:52] not sure how we call work with

[19:35:54] this guy. It assumes we have

[19:35:56] reaction time. Yeah, I mean,

[19:35:58] what's very important to note

[19:36:00] is that the flow of the fight,

[19:36:02] the timings in which everything

[19:36:04] happens changes dramatically.

[19:36:06] So as you can see, the webs

[19:36:09] come in much quicker. The

[19:36:11] We'll have way more significant health. It's very much like Tindall. You have to break out the raid in an extraordinarily

[19:36:18] fast amount of time so they can deal with the next mechanic.

[19:36:21] Jesse, we have another pull, but I really want to hear what that's like before it was about after we get the pull in.

[19:36:27] Okay, once again, Queen Ancerek.

[19:36:29] All the bloodlust is going out.

[19:36:31] I mean, you have to.

[19:36:32] The boss is on 98%?!

[19:36:34] Huge massive damage. Obviously these pulls, nothing about damage. I hope I was already dead.

[19:36:39] We lose a mage, but no one cares.

[19:36:40] That's so true. Okay, so hit the blades are three seconds after the silken tomb

[19:36:45] Oh, they're too quick. They break most of them out. Is everyone gonna survive?

[19:36:49] All right, well the two bombs, these are present on Heroic.

[19:36:53] Half of you have to tank one, half you have to tank the other. You can't all go to one bomb.

[19:36:58] Vanim Nova going out, they need to kn- Oh my gosh!

[19:37:01] Were they too close to each other? Did they get hit by the Nova?

[19:37:05] damage Roger is hot in once again I'm sorry what is that deal Jesse you have

[19:37:16] something for us I think I think Roger is telling scrap yeah we need to maybe

[19:37:21] need to book another week yeah it's fine with two more I level this falls over

[19:37:27] so reactive froth did 345 million damage in one second oh that's good

[19:37:34] That's when the bomb hits the player touches of the bomb

[19:37:41] Okay, but that's your men

[19:37:44] Maybe there's a window maybe they need to stack them. They can't pop the bombs at the same time. Let's have a look

[19:37:50] We're going into another pool. You can only touch one bomb. I remember that

[19:37:54] Yeah, you can't be bursting so you have to be in the circle around one of the bombs

[19:37:57] Yeah, and if you burst the bomb you can't burst another bomb

[19:38:00] So maybe someone accidentally burst two bombs at once?

[19:38:03] Yeah, that is what happened.

[19:38:04] And that's what the explosion was?

[19:38:05] Yeah.

[19:38:06] So they're going to need to stagger.

[19:38:07] Usually on Heroic, you kind of just pop them both at the same time.

[19:38:11] Everybody gets blown over the Venom Nova, but it seems like on Mythic, they're going to

[19:38:15] need to stagger them.

[19:38:16] So they are going to need to position the second bomb further away.

[19:38:19] There you go.

[19:38:20] You're going to have one at ranged, one at melee, I assume.

[19:38:23] So the melee bomb can be activated first.

[19:38:25] Let's see if they get a debuff.

[19:38:26] Let's have a look.

[19:38:27] D-Buff goes out across the raid I'm assuming. Alright now it may be safe, okay.

[19:38:32] Oh my god, they're so good.

[19:38:34] There's a one second debuff applied by popping one requiring you to delay before popping the second. That's why they're doing it further away.

[19:38:40] Good read Jordan. That was really, really intelligent stuff as we see the boss falling.

[19:38:45] I've used the brain file now.

[19:38:46] 87.0% it's a new best guys for Echo. Would have been hard to have a new worst because that first one was very quick.

[19:38:55] quick. Everyone's still alive here.

[19:38:56] Webblades coming in once again.

[19:39:00] That's very scary.

[19:39:01] It's even like the majors are

[19:39:02] opting for the non shimmer blink

[19:39:05] as that will break you out of route.

[19:39:07] So that's an interesting change.

[19:39:08] So that makes sense.

[19:39:09] Opting for ice floes over the shimmer,

[19:39:11] which I imagine will be very good.

[19:39:13] All right. Now we have three bombs.

[19:39:16] Are these three bombs?

[19:39:17] It looks like three bombs to me.

[19:39:19] No, it's escalating.

[19:39:20] All right. So now they need to

[19:39:21] now they need to split into three.

[19:39:24] Okay, so first form with one second between each one.

[19:39:26] All right, they've successfully...

[19:39:28] They've done it.

[19:39:29] All right, they've done it.

[19:39:30] Only Fanna went down there.

[19:39:32] Mini fell afterwards.

[19:39:34] Dodged the blobs, dodged the blades,

[19:39:35] dodged the floor, dodged the wave.

[19:39:36] Dodged everything at this point.

[19:39:38] Care for answer X, she's got hands.

[19:39:42] Otherwise, you'll fall in quicksand.

[19:39:44] The other consequence of that is means you're split into a smaller group,

[19:39:47] which means you have more stacks of the debuff

[19:39:49] that you're supposed to share among everyone that soaks your puddle.

[19:39:52] So that is ticking for enormous amounts of damage causing him to become deceased.

[19:39:55] Oh, this is so exciting! What a chaotic fight!

[19:40:00] I mean, the thing is, spiders usually eat ticks, so you'd feel like a tick would be removed by Amstrak for you.

[19:40:07] The interesting thing about that debuff that is applied for one second preventing you from popping two

[19:40:12] within a close proximity to one another, is it only increases damage taken by 1000%.

[19:40:17] I mean, that's fine. That was the same as piercing strikes, so we didn't see anything there.

[19:40:21] Yeah, easy.

[19:40:22] I mean, basically, you just do this or you die.

[19:40:25] We've only seen the three.

[19:40:26] That also means you're going to need an enormous number of additional people to soak

[19:40:30] because you can only soak one without the next one killing you

[19:40:33] and applying a thousand percent extra damage to you as well.

[19:40:35] And you need a minimum amount of people in each bomb as well.

[19:40:39] You're going to be doing at least six each to have it even spread.

[19:40:42] You're going to have three stacks per person

[19:40:44] instead of the one or two you had been doing before.

[19:40:46] And depending on how many bombs

[19:40:48] and if we get a fourth one later, if this continues to escalate,

[19:40:50] You're gonna have your entire raid having to pop it. No one's gonna be able to say I don't have the timing

[19:40:56] I don't know when to do it. Yeah. Oh, that's gonna be a lot of

[19:40:59] Coordination. Yeah, because once you have been a bomb exploder, you cannot do it again

[19:41:03] So we'll need to stagger who is doing that. It's difficult as well

[19:41:07] Because usually once you pop you just can't stop so I have to make sure that you are restraining from pressing the bomb

[19:41:14] You okay there?

[19:41:16] You right?

[19:41:20] Sometimes it catches me off guard. There's um the reason I laughed

[19:41:24] Oh, not him being making a good joke. No, no, I'm sorry. I'm looking numbers

[19:41:29] The reason I laughed is on the first pull when Robin got killed in two seconds because he got hit by a tank cluster called feast for

[19:41:36] 17 million damage. I have to avoid

[19:41:42] Put it on the monk who staggered it

[19:41:44] Oooh, interesting.

[19:41:46] Does that mean we have to have a monk?

[19:41:48] I don't know. All I know is that Robin got one shot by it, and Mirz has handled 3 17 million average hits thus far.

[19:41:54] Interesting.

[19:41:55] Interesting.

[19:41:57] Okay.

[19:41:58] Well, they didn't immediately call for another pull.

[19:42:01] No, but there was a major pull.

[19:42:02] However, they are first on the charts now.

[19:42:07] And as we know, that's all that matters.

[19:42:10] I mean, they should be.

[19:42:11] They were at 77.9 and look good at 83.5.

[19:42:13] They seem to be number two on my screen.

[19:42:15] Yeah, but mathematically.

[19:42:17] Yeah, but you said they were first, and in fact they are second.

[19:42:20] I only go by the stats in my brain, not by the stats on the screen.

[19:42:23] Congratulations on your first.

[19:42:25] Oh, thank you, yeah.

[19:42:27] So, I'm grateful.

[19:42:28] Well, first.

[19:42:29] Oh, this is so exciting.

[19:42:31] We are there.

[19:42:32] We're at the final boss.

[19:42:34] It has been an extreme adventure so far,

[19:42:38] and I am excited to see what this boss has in store.

[19:42:41] Very sussy amount of HP. Do we think Mythic Phase then, gentlemen?

[19:42:46] It's possible. There is a whole intermission where you can't hit her. Or you can't really hit her.

[19:42:51] Very true. An entire phase where you can't hit her as well.

[19:42:55] So... maybe. I would love there to be one. But I'm not going to be here anyway.

[19:43:01] So, depends on if you guys want a Mythic Phase or not.

[19:43:04] Well, we could do the Reclear tomorrow in one day with no accidents.

[19:43:09] copium and then we could kill the boss on Thursday and you could be here yeah or

[19:43:13] Friday morning and you would be here I would yeah if there's a mythic phase

[19:43:17] there's no way you know I mean a day and a half you said you only go by math

[19:43:21] right the boss is sub 80% two minutes in that means with just another and that's

[19:43:26] with only three poles so taking off 25% every three poles means another six

[19:43:31] poles and we're done yeah importantly the poor counter has been doubling for

[19:43:34] while it's actually only three I it must mean that our pools on Silicon

[19:43:38] court were a bit they were also being multiplied there's like 140 150 ish I

[19:43:41] don't know the actual count but several words look at it I think yeah I

[19:43:44] just think the pool count again this is just fun things to talk about not to not

[19:43:48] to be taken too seriously but I didn't think the pool count was a lot higher

[19:43:50] than what I remembered it yeah but sometimes it all just blurs into one in

[19:43:54] your brain it's like no we probably did for free was the last pool but yeah

[19:43:59] the way they are standing around is either strategy or they're debating do

[19:44:03] Do we go for like three more pulls? Or do we call it a night? Get up at 6am and just

[19:44:10] get back into it. Now I feel like we might be erring towards the latter.

[19:44:15] They did commit to going to bed at 8pm tonight to get ready for their 5am wake for 6am reset

[19:44:21] tomorrow morning.

[19:44:22] And that's 12 minutes away.

[19:44:23] Who was that? Was that Rasmus? In my ear saying that's what you think?

[19:44:27] I think multiple people from your back should be saying the same thing.

[19:44:30] Oh, Mythic Splits could be on the cards!

[19:44:40] More Mythic Splits.

[19:44:41] You have already killed the first boss in two additional Splits.

[19:44:44] No, that's very interesting, so in case anyone's wondering why the Mythic Splits, well one,

[19:44:49] you get some gear on some targeted players, but more importantly with the reset coming

[19:44:54] There will be a great vault to fill.

[19:44:56] So they could be filling out some mythic vault slots

[19:45:00] for various characters as they've been subbing

[19:45:02] multiple people and multiple characters in and out.

[19:45:05] So they could be filling out some vault slots

[19:45:07] for those characters.

[19:45:08] Two bosses gets you one slot,

[19:45:10] four bosses gets you two,

[19:45:11] and the first four bosses are relatively easy.

[19:45:13] And six bosses gets you three.

[19:45:15] So I know just, well, some people say

[19:45:17] that Brute Twisters are a little bit.

[19:45:19] Brute Twisters is only nev'd on V-set,

[19:45:20] that's true actually.

[19:45:21] Oh yeah, they're awesome.

[19:45:22] If it weren't for that, yeah.

[19:45:24] Apparently if you turn on arachnophobia mode it's a little bit easy to eat because the colossal spider's wing span, foot span isn't quite as wide.

[19:45:31] Yeah, I think it shrinks the model on arachnophobia mode.

[19:45:34] But as we have had a world first for Echo kill, a world second kill in total, a European first kill, and we've been talking for the last two hours or so.

[19:45:44] What about we have a quick listen in with a wave and then we will return in five minutes?

[19:45:50] All right, well maybe some have a little bit of a jam a jam you will be you'll be hearing in the echo come

[19:45:57] Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, we can't really listen it. We can listen in to silence

[19:46:02] And this is great. Let's have some bangers and mash. Let's listen to some bangers proper bridge

[19:49:32] Too long ago the vibes in the building are

[20:16:52] players are extremely happy to

[20:16:59] have secured that final well

[20:17:02] number seven and gets into

[20:17:04] Queen and Sirac as we saw a few

[20:17:07] polls. Unfortunately, the

[20:17:09] streams have gone off for the

[20:17:11] evening that we did manage to

[20:17:13] see a few pools very chaotic

[20:17:15] right so far. That's just

[20:17:17] phase one. Yes, three bombs,

[20:17:19] maybe four bombs will see

[20:17:20] starts with two bombs. We're

[20:17:21] very clean from Echo at the end. We'll watch from about P3 and she can go oh oh oh! Disgusting!

[20:17:28] Buster and Susie! That's the dream! The boss can beat the Susie! Zera was dead for a very long time

[20:17:37] in this fight. I think we'd already used up both our combat rezzers at this point as well.

[20:17:41] Ooh we had two spikes as well! Didn't spot that when we were casting this. Or you as the

[20:17:49] Pro.

[20:17:50] Oh sure.

[20:17:51] Incredible play by play towards the end.

[20:17:53] But yeah, coming into this phase we were well ahead in terms of damage and it was all just

[20:17:57] about the mechanics.

[20:17:58] Something they'd been failing a few times especially that combined mechanic at the end was a struggle.

[20:18:03] You can see the positioning here getting the red team up towards the top of the fight

[20:18:07] north if we're looking cardinally ish and then the blue team down towards the south

[20:18:13] getting ready for those grips.

[20:18:15] Yeah.

[20:18:16] They did such an incredible job.

[20:18:18] they had absolutely planned out every second of this fight

[20:18:21] to squeeze as much damage into those vulnerable

[20:18:24] damage windows as possible,

[20:18:25] because they were absolutely annihilating this pull.

[20:18:29] They were making the DPS check by a long way.

[20:18:33] They were blasting, so as they go into phase three,

[20:18:37] they had, yeah, they had one DPS dead,

[20:18:38] but it didn't matter, they were gaming.

[20:18:40] Yeah, Kush at the top of the damage meters

[20:18:42] is one of two million DPS across the course

[20:18:45] of this fight, very impressive from him,

[20:18:47] even if he did fall from time to time, possibly because he was being an ethical gamer and picking

[20:18:51] up too many orbs, and possibly because sometimes he liked to troll his teammates by dashing

[20:18:56] into them in the middle of a betray. We saw Jinji jumping relatively, uh, Jinji pumping

[20:19:02] a Jinji Pumper dying relatively early in this, uh, third phase as well.

[20:19:08] Yeah, you can see them pinging those orbs in desperation to have the opposite team

[20:19:14] they had the first dispel in

[20:19:20] phase 3. This was a very exciting kill. They were pumping as we keep saying. I can't believe the damage that they put out as we have Takash here in the vulnerable

[20:19:28] damage window. This was an extremely hype kill. So those of you who are tuning in, this is the replay of Echo's kill of Silkencourt.

[20:19:38] can call.

[20:19:39] I'm sure it's the replay. It could be a recluse.

[20:19:42] They're going again.

[20:19:44] They're just doing it in mid-expletes guys. Ignore the names.

[20:19:47] They've decided to do 7 of 8 for some reason.

[20:19:50] Even though it doesn't just add this to your looped table.

[20:19:54] Just do it again.

[20:19:55] Yeah, very tricky fight obviously.

[20:19:56] Picking up the Orbs especially when you have two people dead.

[20:19:58] Thankfully for them it was one dead on either side,

[20:20:00] meaning it was 9 and 9 rather than 8 and 10,

[20:20:03] which makes it even harder.

[20:20:04] This was the bit I got really scared at

[20:20:06] Because you can kind of see the webs coming and you see the stun onto a new rush increasing that damage

[20:20:12] Then you're focused on the dispels that big two above to Khaji's health bar showing you that now we have three

[20:20:18] Now we have four and they were actually doing this last dispel relatively early

[20:20:21] I think at five seconds left they did this for the entirety of the final phase

[20:20:25] They also were only one second away from losing the dispel stacks

[20:20:29] It was very close to a repeat of the previous two pulls

[20:20:32] Well, they didn't but they didn't and they got the kill because of it

[20:20:36] But tons of damage to spare at the end through the lust.

[20:20:39] It was relatively easy for them.

[20:20:41] I was baited a little bit by the lust damage, thinking that the bosses would fall faster

[20:20:45] than they did.

[20:20:46] But in the end, I think we only saw Robin falling to the tank buster and he managed

[20:20:50] to tank the enrage for quite a while.

[20:20:53] Yeah, they did get one Combaras at this time just in case they needed to use it

[20:20:59] on the tanks.

[20:21:00] They could pump out as much damage as possible.

[20:21:02] but yeah the boss is health getting ever lower and lower this was an incredible pull

[20:21:07] oh the battle rose does get actually sent on gingy towards the end

[20:21:11] ah so finishing out that damage because robin's still attacking now he dies but your sub 1% hp

[20:21:17] mirror is able to tank up quite a lot of these enraged melee attacks and in the end it is echo

[20:21:23] getting world second on this boss sadly for them no spy masters web dropping a couple of those

[20:21:30] two handers but not the most impactful at the moment that weapon. No but now they will have the

[20:21:36] silkencourt loot table added to their mythic vault in the raid row so maybe we get lucky

[20:21:43] of reset just loot it. Yeah just get it you know just get it I don't know you've got two I have two

[20:21:50] so far. If someone wants a 6031 I would trade it with you but I can't because it's soul bound

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[21:19:11] Speed club guys holy

[21:19:13] Mitch you're gonna win

[21:19:15] Double slow

[21:19:25] I got a speed for you here

[21:19:26] I see you jumping in

[21:19:54] Make sure to lower your Q I have to Q

[21:19:56] Oh for lord

[21:19:57] I lower them

[21:19:58] He's on it he's on it

[21:19:59] Locked in

[21:20:00] Locked in locked in let's get it there it's false

[21:20:04] What is this breakfast break out?

[21:20:05] I hope my deck has a good route for you, so you can see like enemy spots for the annoying bot or the fixed or something

[21:20:10] No, it's all easy, if you just chain pull, then you don't have, then you never stop

[21:20:17] There's a thing on the right here by the way, pop up

[21:20:19] Yeah, it's down there, it's the hot one

[21:20:21] On the right, it's east

[21:20:23] It's the hot enemy, yeah

[21:20:25] Ah, it's on your map, you know

[21:20:30] It's also on your map, so you don't discover it, but it's not on your map

[21:20:33] That's why I think we'll have one Christian at the end of the African.

[21:20:41] Wait, little leg? Oh wait, I just have a little weak sense, thank you.

[21:20:46] What part was the real choice, bro?

[21:20:48] The right.

[21:20:49] The ship. Looks like a ship.

[21:21:09] I don't know if you can take that.

[21:21:30] I don't know if you can take it?

[21:21:31] I just need to put on the...

[21:21:32] We should have almost 90% of the room.

[21:21:39] We should have like overclocked if you didn't have any spare seats.

[21:21:42] I mean, last time I had a little bit of work on the room.

[21:21:50] I was like, 15 minutes.

[21:21:51] I don't know if I can take it.

[21:21:52] I mean, I don't f-

[21:21:54] You always have a counter-stage unless you do some sort of skip.

[21:21:57] Yeah, yeah, it was like 105% I think at the last time.

[21:22:00] Dungeons class, actually.

[21:22:09] How many walls do you have?

[21:22:10] How many walls do you have here?

[21:22:12] Really?

[21:22:13] How many?

[21:22:13] Two or three?

[21:22:14] Yeah, three in terms.

[21:22:18] Yeah, this is the first wall base.

[21:22:20] Oh, shit.

[21:22:21] I was only ahead already.

[21:22:22] Isn't that crazy?

[21:22:23] I mean, we could've just go out.

[21:22:25] That's fine.

[21:22:26] Not one wall, but how far away?

[21:22:27] Yeah, it was like, the bombers, they do AO damage, right?

[21:22:31] No, it's a high damage. Like a burst damage.

[21:22:33] Yeah, it was a high damage.

[21:22:35] A little scratch.

[21:22:37] A little bit of a scratch, yeah.

[21:22:39] Walking down.

[21:22:40] Getting a gap, yeah.

[21:22:42] All machine goes.

[21:22:44] And then I kick first.

[21:22:46] Okay.

[21:22:48] Well that's a big ass level.

[21:22:50] I think it's dead forward, or maybe.

[21:22:52] And then I was...

[21:22:54] Maybe with the overlaps.

[21:22:56] No, it's different.

[21:23:32] I'm laying down in my chair

[21:23:34] No

[21:23:36] No, I'm fully done

[21:23:38] No, I'm fully done

[21:23:40] I trust you guys, I don't know

[21:23:42] They always, like, they pat the floor

[21:23:44] It's like here

[21:23:46] After the gate

[21:23:48] It's a spice area

[21:23:50] Oh, this is a spice, you guys

[21:23:52] He just ran in

[21:23:54] It's okay, that's good

[21:23:56] We're not a little bit

[21:23:58] We'll send all the coupons over here

[21:24:07] What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go to the bot lane

[21:24:09] I would recommend to kick

[21:24:11] I did kick

[21:24:12] Yeah, I'm focused now

[21:24:14] And I saw that Vinny's not even talking anymore

[21:24:16] Yeah, it's crazy

[21:24:18] What?

[21:24:19] Yeah

[21:24:20] I'm just fighting

[21:24:21] He's the red bulls wearing out

[21:24:22] I'm not a big fan of this

[21:24:24] I just figured that

[21:24:26] we kinda get washed as a kick so I'm just going

[21:24:30] That is weak, that's a weak shot spot right there

[21:24:34] It's fine, I understand

[21:24:36] You know I'm listening some breaks here and there yeah, yeah that that that's true

[21:24:44] What is

[21:24:52] Sorry, I was building

[21:24:56] I think they're wrong spot

[21:24:58] As if you kill the V that we could change

[21:25:04] I'm retargeted it

[21:25:22] 40% minus

[21:25:25] We didn't the boss on pull or with that image I'm

[21:25:37] Damage level

[21:25:43] Sand on sand

[21:25:45] I don't know, I was thinking of having this group

[21:25:47] It was 15th in the past on treasure

[21:25:49] I don't know if it's more or none of this

[21:25:51] Sand on sand

[21:25:54] Oh, maybe a bit of taste though

[21:25:56] We'll just plug it in

[21:26:00] Sand with everything here

[21:26:02] Yup

[21:26:04] Clicking it

[21:26:11] YOLO

[21:26:18] Oh, this is some tight turn right here

[21:26:20] He's making it

[21:26:22] Well, he's actually in NASCAR

[21:26:24] He's actually in NASCAR

[21:26:26] Oh, it's f***ing so fast

[21:26:33] I'd like to say I had it under control, but I didn't see the better one, but...

[21:26:37] That's okay

[21:26:39] Wait, where's the other me again?

[21:26:41] Oh, there he is, here

[21:26:43] I got the sitting sense here, boom

[21:26:48] Like that

[21:26:50] Boom

[21:26:53] He's in the other sense, that's all

[21:26:55] I'm sure there's another me again, right? Maybe the next one

[21:26:57] If you stand a little bit further away it's gonna blow it up.

[21:27:01] What's your weekend?

[21:27:05] Yeah, bomb?

[21:27:06] I blew it up. Is he gonna explode?

[21:27:08] No.

[21:27:09] No, I'm not sure. I think it was fine.

[21:27:11] No, I haven't exploded.

[21:27:12] I think it was fine.

[21:27:13] I think it was like 5 seconds.

[21:27:15] Yeah, it was fine.

[21:27:16] I believe we'll fall.

[21:27:17] Me too.

[21:27:18] I was probably going to blow it to me.

[21:27:19] I was probably going to blow it to me.

[21:27:20] Is he gonna say bomb?

[21:27:21] No, he's not.

[21:27:22] Oh, there he is.

[21:27:23] And we're dying, yeah.

[21:27:24] We're dying.

[21:27:25] Goodnight.

[21:27:26] Let's hit pins.

[21:27:28] Nice guys, the time is 10-5 minutes

[21:27:33] That's compared to previous key

[21:27:36] And my previous key was depleted by some incident in the last boss

[21:27:43] Nice

[21:27:44] I don't remember, so...

[21:27:46] Yeah, there was some issues

[21:27:48] You have a red power right now, you're literally kind of...

[21:27:50] I love training and I'm just letting you guys die

[21:28:00] I love training as well

[21:28:01] If I get a win six, then I'll bury him.

[21:28:03] You're telling him that he's the favorite kicker on the new flame, since they die, huh?

[21:28:07] Yeah, of course.

[21:28:08] I mean, that's exactly how it goes.

[21:28:12] Because I kick once, and that's it.

[21:28:15] I go into the bike, I kick once, I stank, and then, you know, they can do whatever they want.

[21:28:20] Yeah, they're on, yeah.

[21:28:21] Yeah.

[21:28:22] I mean, that's actually so wrong, because when I go to the top hull and you can solo every single move.

[21:28:27] In the universe.

[21:28:28] Top hull, huh?

[21:28:30] Yeah.

[21:28:32] I'm not from back-to-back currently.

[21:28:34] I think I'm the other one.

[21:28:36] I got...

[21:28:36] I got Franco.

[21:28:38] I need a healer.

[21:28:39] Oh, he's dead.

[21:28:39] He's dead.

[21:28:40] He's dead.

[21:28:40] I'm thinking.

[21:28:41] I did it already.

[21:28:42] Oh no.

[21:28:43] I'm so aggressive.

[21:28:44] Don't you spawn right behind us?

[21:28:46] Wait, hopefuls winning overall now.

[21:28:48] This is not optimal Franco.

[21:28:51] I'm sorry.

[21:28:51] I didn't even know there was a shooting figure.

[21:28:52] Get a whoring over there.

[21:28:54] What do you mean?

[21:28:56] I'm just doing damage to the...

[21:28:57] these things, because I have nothing else to do.

[21:28:59] I don't feel safe enough in football.

[21:29:01] Yeah, I need to do the Vyne storm.

[21:29:03] Lako, you know Vika, but there's you one to move.

[21:29:06] Yeah, so you can use it.

[21:29:08] I was trying to hit my Vyne storm all the mobs that were still alive.

[21:29:11] Okay, let's mod up.

[21:29:15] Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.

[21:29:17] Oh, yeah, side of the day.

[21:29:19] I was like, don't the Vyne toll on the pack before the boss,

[21:29:23] because the Vyne toll would probably be on the boss.

[21:29:27] I learned that the hard way.

[21:29:29] Okay.

[21:29:31] Okay.

[21:29:32] Why is my mage pulling some cross-pads?

[21:29:36] Tom?

[21:29:37] If he has to do his most likely

[21:29:39] He's an arcane orb

[21:29:40] That thing pulled Kureza's weight off

[21:29:47] I'll never pull

[21:29:49] I said I would want missiles

[21:29:53] Oh no, maybe it was Flex that pulled the boss

[21:29:55] We're flooding Flex, but he's not even here

[21:30:01] No, I said he pulled the boss

[21:30:03] He's currently sleeping

[21:30:10] No, it's sleeping.

[21:30:13] He was sleeping out on the water.

[21:30:15] Doing the big sleep.

[21:30:27] He went to bed early and then wake up late.

[21:30:29] Checking you out?

[21:30:33] Well, we had a lot of sleep.

[21:30:34] The event never gets the big sleep, yeah.

[21:30:36] We never had a long sleep in two weeks.

[21:30:39] Two weeks?

[21:30:40] It was more like a month.

[21:30:42] I had flicks gaslight.

[21:30:44] It was a little bit of a distance.

[21:30:46] I am the funnel bad.

[21:30:52] Good luck.

[21:30:53] Good luck morning.

[21:30:54] Is he going away?

[21:30:55] He's going to jump up

[21:30:57] What?

[21:30:58] He's just dead

[21:30:59] How did he get only two dots though?

[21:31:01] I'm getting

[21:31:02] I blocked

[21:31:03] Oh, you got this instead of

[21:31:05] Okay, I see

[21:31:06] I was able to do something

[21:31:08] You got it

[21:31:12] It was a knuckle, this is not a frontflip anymore

[21:31:15] The screen just swiped from the edge

[21:31:17] So, you can basically stand on me

[21:31:20] It's quite nice

[21:31:23] Netus was actually so free

[21:31:26] This one's back and they were so much harder.

[21:31:28] Yes.

[21:31:29] Wager, Wager.

[21:31:30] Nice.

[21:31:31] Wager is getting cat shot.

[21:31:38] Wait, that's good to me actually.

[21:31:39] Good value.

[21:31:41] It's hell of a good value.

[21:31:42] That is a bleed by the way.

[21:31:43] So we could call the rising flame in for the future.

[21:31:46] That's it. It is done already.

[21:31:47] Edit.

[21:31:48] Yeah, I'm not.

[21:31:54] Good morning everyone.

[21:31:56] I was careful not to say good morning everyone.

[21:31:58] Wokage!

[21:31:59] Welcome back to the Race to World first here at Nerebra Palace.

[21:32:02] My name is Jessie, I'm here with the wonderful Nogura, good morning.

[21:32:05] Good morning!

[21:32:06] How are you and this beautiful morning?

[21:32:08] I'm awake.

[21:32:09] Me too.

[21:32:10] I'm recovering from hot dog withdrawal.

[21:32:13] Oh.

[21:32:14] Is that a normal thing?

[21:32:15] You didn't know.

[21:32:16] Is that just an American thing?

[21:32:17] Like they have that?

[21:32:18] It's not an American thing.

[21:32:19] We had a jar of hot dogs yesterday.

[21:32:22] A jar?

[21:32:23] So you walked in this morning and you said, oh, protein bars.

[21:32:27] Yeah.

[21:32:28] You have no idea what happened last night.

[21:32:29] Wow.

[21:32:30] I'm sorry.

[21:32:31] I don't feel like it would be like.

[21:32:34] Otherwise, there are hot dogs in jars, is that a thing?

[21:32:37] Apparently it's a German thing.

[21:32:38] There's German all over it.

[21:32:39] There's a jar of water and hot dogs in water.

[21:32:43] Interesting.

[21:32:44] Which did not last the night.

[21:32:47] Medic and I had our way with him.

[21:32:50] What else did Medic do yesterday?

[21:32:52] I mean, I saw pictures of him and preach and ate hot dogs with you, pickles, but

[21:32:56] I don't know what is going on.

[21:32:58] Yeah, nothing good.

[21:32:59] But chat was entertained and that's what matters. Good morning everyone. Hope you're well

[21:33:03] So a lot to talk about this morning currently

[21:33:05] We are on the last day of the reset for echo

[21:33:09] They have a full day ahead of them

[21:33:11] But the last day of the reset before they head into their re clears tomorrow

[21:33:16] Liquid currently coming near the end of their last day of the reset and then they will be doing their re clears

[21:33:23] Starting later tonight for us

[21:33:25] And then we're going into the reset with thus far, Silkencourt still alive for both guilds yesterday

[21:33:31] Echo got the boss down to 53% after 87 pulls

[21:33:34] Overnight the boss did get some changes. Liquid has now got the boss down to sub 10%

[21:33:41] of 259 pulls, excellently done to them. An interesting little dynamic here with both guilds, you know

[21:33:46] Kind of deciding how hard do we go to try to kill Silkencourt before reset with the raid very clearly

[21:33:53] going to that second reset. What do you mean by how hard I mean obviously they

[21:33:58] want to kill her right? Are you saying that they would be... Do you stay up late?

[21:34:01] That's what I mean. Okay stay up late. Do you mid-hit splits or do you send that

[21:34:05] like there's lots of things that could do versus spend all their time trying to

[21:34:10] kill someone. Yeah so I think personally like the earlier in the day this the

[21:34:16] more sense it makes to try and kill the boss right but I do think that if all

[21:34:21] all you're going to see on Anthrax is like an hour of progression or an hour of pulling

[21:34:24] a boss.

[21:34:25] I think the value of that is not very high personally because you're going to see phase

[21:34:29] one only of course and like some people are arguing oh then you can see the boss and then

[21:34:35] you know what you need to gear but you don't like pulling a boss for an hour is not going

[21:34:39] to give you the information that you need to figure out what kind of classes you

[21:34:42] would potentially need to gear especially like something out of the ordinary because

[21:34:46] the ordinary classes that you need you'll gear anyway right so I don't think that

[21:34:50] will help them very much. The only thing that of course will help you is getting some timers,

[21:34:56] which should be fair, like some of the phase one timers. Yeah, how much value do you get from

[21:35:02] that? So I kind of, I think an hour in the last boss is not really super valuable, in my opinion.

[21:35:07] I agree. I think obviously you're right that the earlier in the day you kill Silicon Core,

[21:35:12] the more value you get from progressing on Amstrak. It is somewhat valuable,

[21:35:16] they will see that you also get the loot from Silicon Core, which is nice. You get

[21:35:19] get an extra mythic boss kill for everyone who's in, which is nice.

[21:35:22] Great vault for the mythic raid unlocks at two, four, and six boss kills.

[21:35:28] So for some players, killing Silkencourt would give them that extra fourth or

[21:35:32] six boss kill for an extra option.

[21:35:34] That's kind of good value.

[21:35:36] But I kind of agree with you.

[21:35:37] I think if either guild pushed really hard and successfully killed Silkencourt

[21:35:41] today, the primary benefit would be to morale and team spirit.

[21:35:45] It would feel great to be the only guild that killed Silkencourt in the week

[21:35:49] reset. It wouldn't have much of an impact on the race overall. In fact, I think it would have virtually none.

[21:35:54] We can talk briefly, so the other options I wanted to talk about, of course, they're doing keys.

[21:35:59] You get great fault options for two, six, and ten keys, hopefully, or two, six, and eight,

[21:36:08] or something like that. And they're trying to get all of their plus tens done to have good

[21:36:11] loot in there. A lot of these players also trying to get great fault options for multiple

[21:36:15] characters so that gives them something to do while Scribe and Potter and Roger

[21:36:20] go through and sort out what they want to do on Silkencourt. Silkencourt did

[21:36:24] pick up a couple of adjustments overnight. Yeah so apparently they have the

[21:36:28] two tank now. Plus I didn't like that. They were one tanking two mythic bosses

[21:36:33] in a row and they fixed that which I personally think it's a good

[21:36:38] decision especially because we don't want other mythic guilds so also have

[21:36:44] to one tank and like in general one tanking is something that should be like something

[21:36:47] that you do for to push a damage check right on QvS I think it made sense because it was

[21:36:52] also difficult and you had the tank needed to die and you had to rest like it was actually

[21:36:56] something that was very risky and the doubt other guilds would be doing that but one

[21:37:00] tanking on the Siliconcourt I do think was pushing it a little bit so the fact that

[21:37:04] Blizzard fixed that was a good decision in my opinion but then they also nerfed

[21:37:09] bosses HP by 5% to compensate that they have to bring a tank, which I think is an interesting

[21:37:16] nerf, because obviously one tank is not going to be 5% boss HP, so they definitely overshot

[21:37:22] that nerf a little bit, certainly on purpose. They were thinking, okay, I'm not sure what

[21:37:28] their goal was to see maybe if the guilds can kill the boss before they reset. Maybe

[21:37:34] they are worried, which is a very good worry to have, that maybe it would go into next reset

[21:37:41] and Blizzard does not want to have that happen unless it goes far into the, and I don't mean

[21:37:47] this reset coming up, but they won afterwards obviously, because we don't want the last

[21:37:51] boss to die around the reset time because then of course it's going to be very heavily

[21:37:56] in favor of the NA builds.

[21:37:58] Yeah, really good point.

[21:38:00] So for those who are interested, the precise details of the hotpicks that came in overnight

[21:38:04] was, and I'll give some background first, the beetle hits the tank with a piercing strike

[21:38:12] that was supposed to do pretty significant damage, but more importantly left behind a

[21:38:16] debuff yesterday that lasted for a full minute, increasing the damage you take from

[21:38:20] the subsequent tankbusters by 100%.

[21:38:23] And we had lots of tank deaths to that because the problem is that tankbuster came in

[21:38:27] every 20 seconds so since it lasted a minute you simply could not alternate to only deal with one

[21:38:31] at a time you had to take two or three stacks and we were having tank deaths to that. Since you

[21:38:36] have to take multiple stacks Echo made the fairly logical conclusion of okay well how many of those

[21:38:40] can we take and if you use the blood death knight some externals and some good gameplay you could

[21:38:44] take four which is all you needed to take before it went to the end mission and you got it

[21:38:49] reset anyway so okay all right let's solo tank this. In order to fix that what Blizzard did

[21:38:55] was they made two changes to that tank buster. First they made the debuff only last 30 seconds,

[21:39:00] happening every 20 seconds or 30 second duration means that you can actually taunt swap back and

[21:39:04] forth and only ever have one stack. And then they made it multiply your damage from subsequent

[21:39:11] application to the tank buster by a thousand percent instead of 100 percent making it lethal to

[21:39:16] take that second stack we assume. So that will effectively fix the tank debuff so that you

[21:39:22] You do have to two tank and make two tanking viable in a way that it kind of wasn't before with the increased duration

[21:39:27] And then yeah, they did they fixed the health by 5% which is a very large nerve

[21:39:31] I haven't checked yet, and I won't be able to

[21:39:34] Until poles go live and I get logs

[21:39:36] But I'm also interested to see if that changes the shield values in the intermission

[21:39:39] That might be based on health boss health though

[21:39:41] So it might be a larger nerf already even than we think or it might not help be taking a look at that

[21:39:46] I agree with you of course, right?

[21:39:48] So I think they did want Silkencourt to be killable this week. It's fine for

[21:39:53] the last boss to go into a second week, but it's very rare for a non-last boss to not even be killed until the second reset.

[21:40:00] The position we're in right now when we're talking about reset timings is actually very interesting and almost ideal, right?

[21:40:06] With Silkencourt not dead and perhaps not dying today, Anzrack unlooked at.

[21:40:10] You're looking at a day of re-clears, potentially a day or two of progress on Silkencourt, and then several days of progress on Anzrack.

[21:40:16] We are well into the weekend and the staggered reset doesn't really matter. If the situation you were talking about arose where they

[21:40:25] kill Silkencourt on like Friday, they don't have enough time to kill Ancerok

[21:40:29] But they get her close before the reset and then it's a race to the reset situation that like what almost happened on Sylvanas for example

[21:40:35] Then that's very awkward

[21:40:37] So I do think that Blizzard's keeping a close eye on that and it might be the case that they wanted that 5% health nerf

[21:40:42] not just to compensate for the solo tank but also to say let's make sure this can die today.

[21:40:48] Yeah because the reason why this would be very awkward let's create a situation let's say Silicon

[21:40:53] Core is the last boss and let's say they wouldn't have North HP by 5% then it would have been very

[21:40:59] likely that Echo does not manage to kill a boss today even though they might have gotten close

[21:41:03] but that 5% extra health maybe is preventing them from killing it. Well when Liquid wakes up

[21:41:09] later in our in our day at 7 p.m. around that then they would have to reset they

[21:41:14] would be able to re-clear open up their vault get those extra items in and

[21:41:18] basically kill Siliconcourt immediately because it's a strategy down and

[21:41:22] they're gonna be able to do that extra damage that they were missing the

[21:41:27] day before because of that extra gear they're getting through the reset and

[21:41:30] that is something that happened once before they didn't end up winning

[21:41:35] because they ended up extending the AD, which is almost always the wrong decision to make,

[21:41:40] obviously in hindsight.

[21:41:42] But that is something that Blizzard is trying very heavily to avoid.

[21:41:46] Yeah, I agree.

[21:41:47] So it almost happened in the Sylvanas tier, in Sanctum of Domination.

[21:41:52] Both Echo and Liquid were doing very good progress on Sylvanas, both of them getting

[21:41:57] the boss very, very low right before the reset.

[21:42:00] Liquid had an almost kill right before the reset and then they stopped for the

[21:42:03] day.

[21:42:04] Okay, we're gonna go come kill it tomorrow and and they did right they went through their reset

[21:42:07] They got the re-clear and then they one shot the boss out of the re-clear if echo hadn't killed it in their first reset

[21:42:13] Toward the end of their day then they would have woken up with the boss having been dead in in liquid reset without even having

[21:42:19] The opportunity to compete in that new reset. So boss is dying at the beginning of a reset. It's very awkward

[21:42:24] It almost happened on Sylvanas. It almost happened on Kahoon

[21:42:29] Something that Blizzard has to be a little bit sensitive to with the staggered release

[21:42:32] But if you do push the boss kill back until the weekend, then it essentially doesn't matter anymore, right?

[21:42:37] The difference that that staggered reset makes has a huge impact on day one and it diminishes every day until three or four days

[21:42:44] Then it's essentially zero. I don't think as long as the answer act dies in the upcoming reset

[21:42:49] I don't think it's gonna matter at all, right?

[21:42:50] If that Sunday Monday or Tuesday, it's completely fine

[21:42:52] It's if that nightmare scenario where Silicon Corp continues to be hard. So the nightmare scenario would be

[21:42:58] We'll see.

[21:42:59] Reclear on Tuesday for Liquid, Wednesday for Echo.

[21:43:02] One day of progress on Silicon Court takes us to like, you know, Wednesday slash Thursday.

[21:43:06] And then if on strike is really hard and takes seven days to kill, then you're looking at

[21:43:09] killing on next Wednesday, a third reset tier, which is a little bit too long historically

[21:43:14] and puts that awkwardness into play, but we'll have to see.

[21:43:17] Of course, it is plausible.

[21:43:19] We don't know exactly when Liquid will call their polling for the day as they

[21:43:22] prepare to go into their reset and re-clear tomorrow, but it is possible.

[21:43:26] Liquid fills the boss today.

[21:43:27] got the boss sub 10% which is very impressive it is also possible that echo kills the boss today

[21:43:31] yeah it's not guaranteed by any means but it could happen yeah i do think that liquid is

[21:43:36] certainly well i haven't paid attention too much but i watched a little bit earlier before i got on

[21:43:42] and i saw that they were taking a short break and which means that they want to continue right

[21:43:47] and it was already 11 p.m for them i mean at this point it is yeah it's 15 past 11 right

[21:43:52] for them. They are nine hours before us. Yes, so that is this result and they

[21:43:59] would usually stop around like 11 or maybe a little bit more. Yeah, so they do still have

[21:44:05] some time where they're not like super extending their rating hours but their

[21:44:10] reset is 10 a.m. their time right? So I don't actually know when the reset is.

[21:44:18] Is the reset at 10? I know that they have maintenance until 10 tomorrow, so it would be good if their reset wasn't until 10.

[21:44:24] I do think it is 10, but I might be wrong.

[21:44:27] It's hard to keep track now that we have the E reset versus the NA reset at different hours now, because the E reset is at 6, and the NA reset is at 9 or 10.

[21:44:36] It might be at 10, I thought it was at 9, but I could easily be wrong.

[21:44:38] It could also be later, because it's always 12 hours different, right? We could just go from there.

[21:44:44] The hours at 6 am on Wednesday and then 10 would be plus 9, 7 p.m. Tuesday, that means

[21:44:56] it's 5 plus 6, 11 hours.

[21:44:59] So do you think it's 9 am then?

[21:45:03] I thought it was 9 am.

[21:45:04] Yeah, then I think it's 9.

[21:45:05] In that case, there's a potential, there's a potentiality there that they're gonna

[21:45:09] lose an hour of their overall reset because the that was it has announced

[21:45:13] maintenance until 10 a.m. specific time also there are oh man there's so much to

[21:45:20] talk about so there's incoming changes to bosses with the reset yeah talk about

[21:45:24] and then the the reason we're talking so much about how much value would you

[21:45:28] gain from killing Slidden Court is because it's important consideration

[21:45:30] because there's other things Echo can do at their time obviously they're doing

[21:45:34] Mythic Plus right now. That's not so much help. There's a remote control done there.

[21:45:39] So we're going to be fiddling around. We lost our TV. Lost that extremely important Mythic

[21:45:46] Plus gameplay. Obviously they're doing Mythic Plus right now. I don't think that's so much

[21:45:49] because Mythic Plus is enormous value. It's that you can get some gear from it. You

[21:45:52] can finish getting all of your keys done for your weekly vault. And then that also

[21:45:56] allows you to essentially delay a little bit while Scribe and Roger and Potter take

[21:46:00] look at what Liquid did with their 10% pull, take a look at those end timings, look at whatever

[21:46:04] changes they're going to make now that their one tank strategy has been deleted by Blizzard

[21:46:08] because it has, it's been murdered, that's gone, you can't do that anymore. So things they need to

[21:46:12] fix are going to be strategizing doing that, they want the players to be getting value while

[21:46:15] they do. Also, there's other things you can do. So after you're done with your Mithic Plus,

[21:46:21] you're ready to start your raid day, you could go spend all of it on Silken Corp,

[21:46:23] but you could also say it's worthwhile going in and killing the first four bosses,

[21:46:27] which are all essentially one shots on a bunch of different alps and farm that gear on characters that might be valuable on us rock

[21:46:34] Any other tier I would say that would be high value this tier a huge number of alps rotated into the main lockout and can't do that

[21:46:41] And it's also like an incredibly I think this is not a remote thing. I think somebody whoever is controlling this is

[21:46:48] You think they want to show us

[21:46:51] No, I think it's a remote thing

[21:46:55] You get a try

[21:46:59] Yeah. Mitch, help. Help. Okay. We can't we can't see anything. We have. Okay. Our TV's are working. Mitch is gonna come fix things while we talk about the value of Mythic Splits. Yeah, so Mythic Splits, it's very interesting, because especially this tier, we have to first four bosses be one.

[21:47:22] We have the first four of us in our one shot and they are very easy in comparison to the

[21:47:29] first and the sixth most obviously.

[21:47:31] My ineptitude has been made up for by Mitch's confidence.

[21:47:34] Excellent, thank you.

[21:47:35] How do you promote your work?

[21:47:36] To be fair also, I looked at it and I was like, I don't know what to do here.

[21:47:42] Well, the thing is, I mean, it's easy to make fun of us, but this is a very complicated

[21:47:48] audiovisual setup to make us have all of these fees.

[21:47:50] There's a lot of screens.

[21:47:51] There's a lot of screens, there's a lot of wires, I'm terrified I'm gonna break something, the entire production goes down, Mitch walks in, pitches one button and it's fixed.

[21:48:00] Then he dropped the remote, I thought that was a bit much Mitch.

[21:48:03] Yeah, you guys are pathetic.

[21:48:07] Done with you.

[21:48:08] Yeah, you call us names right?

[21:48:09] Yeah.

[21:48:10] You need to stop doing this, bit much.

[21:48:12] Anyway, so I do think killing the first boss is just mixes, not only for the loot from the bosses, but also from the vaults as well.

[21:48:20] as well and interestingly enough this is actually something that a bunch of like normal mythic

[21:48:29] guilds did like average mythic guilds that I don't know wait two three days a week that have

[21:48:34] seen how difficult Brute Twister and Kvesa was they decided to not do mythic normally they did

[21:48:42] mythic splits they actually ended up killing four bosses with their because a lot of guilds

[21:48:49] have one main alt to attack two characters in total and then you do heroic splits and normal

[21:48:54] mode splits to get your tier set faster which is a very common thing even like my guild does it

[21:49:00] which is only a three-day raiding guild and they decided to do mythic splits which because they knew

[21:49:06] they're not gonna be able to kill blue twist anyway and they won't have much time to even progress

[21:49:11] on it either if they still want to do heroic splits so yeah I think that's a very interesting

[21:49:15] decision to make. Yeah, so we talk a lot about a difficulty curve in raids where you go, you know,

[21:49:20] one pull on the first boss, 10 on the second, 20 on the third, 50 on the fourth, 100 on the fifth,

[21:49:27] 200 on the last right. This wasn't so much a difficulty curve as a difficulty cliff.

[21:49:31] With the top guilds going, one pull, one pull, one pull, one pull, 200 pulls.

[21:49:36] And those 200 pulls were very difficult with extraordinarily degenerate comps, you know,

[21:49:40] three tanking, double blood death knight tanking, three healing, single tanking,

[21:49:44] single-tranging again, so it's a very, very difficult jump, but the first four bosses are

[21:49:49] relatively easy, particularly for these top kills. They could easily kill them several more times

[21:49:53] with alt groups if they still have alts that are worth gearing that didn't get saved already,

[21:49:59] to the enormous number of characters that got used in this first lockout to meet the demands of

[21:50:03] Brute Twister and Kaiveza. So it'll be interesting to see, I'm sure that they're working on

[21:50:07] spreadsheets to see if that's worthwhile. I would expect to see some Mythx Blitz done,

[21:50:11] because they have a huge number of ults that are kind of garbage ults used just for splits.

[21:50:15] They could put together mythic splits just for the sake of those couple of people who

[21:50:19] have mains that did not do mythic progress this week. You know, there are a couple players that

[21:50:24] didn't see any progress on any of their characters including mains and they might say,

[21:50:27] okay maybe we do want that character in, let's send a split for that and we can bring in

[21:50:32] some carpet ults to do it. We also have mythic changes coming in next week with

[21:50:37] with Hot Tix has already announced the Brew Twister.

[21:50:40] Enormous nerfs, right?

[21:50:41] It's a very, very substantial nerf,

[21:50:42] reducing the sides of the healing shield,

[21:50:44] most likely in an attempt to stop people

[21:50:46] from needing to three heal,

[21:50:48] and huge reductions in the health of the adds,

[21:50:51] reducing the total AoE requirement.

[21:50:52] I quickly need to interrupt you because that is so funny.

[21:50:55] Like, hopeful.

[21:50:57] I know he's just changing his talents,

[21:50:59] but he, they started the key.

[21:51:01] He walks into the first pool.

[21:51:03] He ends up dying, releases, walks out of the dungeon,

[21:51:06] I'm like this is my this is my everyday puck. It's just gonna leave. It's like that in the first pool during my cool downs

[21:51:13] I'm out of here. Yeah, but he's just changing his style.

[21:51:18] Brute Twister picking up some very significant nerfs in order to try to fix that three heal situation and reduce the overall like massive

[21:51:25] Aoe damage requirement. Interestingly Kaiveza not getting any changes. The gear you acquire will help you kill her faster

[21:51:31] potentially without one tanking, but I'm shocked that they didn't do something to fix the one

[21:51:36] tanking and a health reduction to make her more killable for everyone else.

[21:51:39] Yeah, so, I mean, yeah, I don't know, like I think one of the biggest issues with the damage check

[21:51:45] bosses is that of course they want to make it killable for the first kill, because if it's

[21:51:51] unkillable, it's just really boring to watch. And they want to make it like super close,

[21:51:55] and they also need to add like mechanical difficulties to it, because just the damage

[21:51:59] check is obviously not gonna hold them back. But the thing with those bosses is, if the

[21:52:05] damage check is the interesting part of the boss, then nerfing it for the rest of the

[21:52:10] guilds means, okay, well now the damage check is not difficult anymore, so one of the interesting

[21:52:14] parts of this boss fight was only interesting for the first one and not for everyone else.

[21:52:18] So maybe not nerfing it is them saying, hey, we want this also to be a damage check

[21:52:22] for everyone else, maybe without the one tanking ring, but still a damage check

[21:52:27] with two tagging thing which I think could be true but you also have to argue

[21:52:31] that the second reset I don't think is necessarily gonna give the other mythic

[21:52:35] guild as much gear as the first skill guilds had in the first ID right that is

[21:52:40] that is a bit longer to to to overtake the item level of the top guild yeah

[21:52:46] she will she will Kaiveza Kaiveza will be naturally nerfed for liquid

[21:52:51] method echo and hot pot heroes by the existence of the reset they're gonna

[21:52:56] get 3-5 item level probably from re-clearing all the mythic bosses I've killed that'll

[21:53:00] naturally kind of almost trivialize Kave's damage check for them. They'll be killing

[21:53:04] her a good 10, 20, 30 seconds before the enrage. However, you're absolutely right that won't

[21:53:11] give every other guild the same item level that 30 million splits gave those guilds

[21:53:16] this week. Eventually they'll catch up on all that. I don't know that I worry

[21:53:19] as much about maintaining the perfectly balanced damage check for non-top guilds

[21:53:24] because it's almost impossible to do, right?

[21:53:26] Blizzard's being very, very careful,

[21:53:28] trying to ensure that these are realistic

[21:53:30] and yet challenging damage checks for the top guilds,

[21:53:32] and that's something they can do

[21:53:32] because they know exactly how much item level they have,

[21:53:35] exactly what loadouts they're using,

[21:53:37] and exactly how much damage they're doing

[21:53:38] as they collect their data from each individual boss kill

[21:53:41] and components of those boss kills

[21:53:42] in order to do slight adjustments

[21:53:43] to Tevez's health as they did,

[21:53:45] making it barely butt-killable

[21:53:47] and similarly with Silicon Court.

[21:53:49] That's significantly harder to do

[21:53:50] when you're talking about thousands of guilds, right?

[21:53:52] You can't custom tune the health and it'll be a different challenge for different guilds

[21:53:57] I do think that a damage check for the race will first has to be very customized to them

[21:54:02] but I think

[21:54:04] damage check for an average guild can be like much easier

[21:54:09] But still be very hard for them, right?

[21:54:11] But it's gonna depend on the guild, right?

[21:54:12] What will be very hard for it will so of course it will there's a difference in skill them that massively curving

[21:54:18] Yeah, it is a 10,000 different guilds and what is challenging for a 300 guild will be fairly easy for a 200 guild

[21:54:25] And you can't custom do it to those two different. I mean, yeah

[21:54:28] If you're if you're saying the difference in a 200 and a 300 guilt, and yeah, yeah

[21:54:31] But they will eventually get more gear and then and there's a buff in the right as well

[21:54:35] So they will overtake it at some point right right which I feel like kind of proves my point right that the point is that the damage

[21:54:41] Check becomes less of a consideration outside of race to world first because you can't have a super good

[21:54:47] challenging you need doable damage check outside of that circumstance yeah but

[21:54:51] what I'm saying is that I think it should be a damage check for the first couple

[21:54:55] of kills that reach the boss for a little while until they can just barely kill it

[21:54:59] because then it still felt like an damage check and then once then the same thing

[21:55:03] will happen for their guilds that are less skilled because then for them even

[21:55:06] though they have the buff it will still be as difficult as for the previous

[21:55:10] guilds that killed it because they like what they like in skill they gain

[21:55:12] through the buff and then eventually they'll be able to kill it because of

[21:55:16] above and then it will just continue. That's true absolutely it's my like but

[21:55:20] that that is true regardless of what you do to the boss's health no matter how

[21:55:24] hard the damage check is to start whatever you change that health threshold

[21:55:27] to we'll always have that moving threshold of guilds able to kill it

[21:55:32] because of reduced health or increased gear that's always gonna be a thing

[21:55:35] there's always gonna be that killed that almost came it can't quite and

[21:55:37] barely can but almost couldn't unless the nerf the health like too much and

[21:55:41] but then all they have to do is survive.

[21:55:43] Right, or they get rid of the image.

[21:55:46] Yeah, or death, yeah.

[21:55:47] But no changes coming in, Mr. Kaiveza,

[21:55:49] which I do find surprising.

[21:55:50] I thought they would want to fix the two tank strategy

[21:55:52] and perhaps offer a small health reduction

[21:55:54] to compensate it for the upcoming week of progress

[21:55:57] for the guilds, looking to potentially clear

[21:55:59] in that second walk out.

[21:56:01] We have yapped for a reasonable duration

[21:56:04] to introduce the chat to the various things

[21:56:06] that will be occurring today.

[21:56:08] We do have a Star Forge flashback

[21:56:10] go over the events of yesterday which I don't think that's gonna be in it let's

[21:56:17] let's take a look at this highlight video

[21:56:27] this is it 100% the game then absolutely crazy

[21:56:31] damage out of the boss to try to take them out with a glitch but it's not

[21:56:34] enough is echo and managed to catch up to liquid as the boss goes down

[21:56:40] If you or a family member is suffering from League of Legends, there are ways you can get

[21:57:02] help.

[21:57:03] First off, reaching out to other friends or finding a support group in your area.

[21:57:07] Secondly, installing Battle.net and the World of Warcraft add-on can allow you to

[21:57:12] guess out of that Spiral. What is he giggling about? I mean, he's really enjoying himself.

[21:57:17] What's happening? Just loves this boss. That's what it is.

[21:57:22] Laughing at how easy the range is usually. Like literally laughing at what you get

[21:57:27] a ranged POV and they're just like doing so much work. That was perfect. We just have deaths

[21:57:32] sitting coming. Damage, new best pull. That is not okay. That is not okay. I'm so sorry.

[21:57:42] Um...

[21:57:44] Yeah.

[21:58:00] It's fine. Tons of guys have this problem. It's not a big deal.

[21:58:10] Hello everybody and welcome to Who's Casted Anyway.

[21:58:15] I forgot who's in there, man. I forgot who's me.

[21:58:19] The game where the points are like healers, they just don't matter.

[21:58:22] Things you can say in a raid that you cannot say in the bedroom

[21:58:27] Okay, you go do splits with Jinji. I'm gonna pull someone else

[21:58:34] The girl same question can you explain in detail why you failed the last time

[21:58:42] If you've never followed the race before I don't even play World of Warcraft

[21:58:45] Which of course many of you do the everything will reset for us in the EU on Wednesday

[21:58:49] It would be Tuesday for the US because they are desync because

[21:58:56] Yeah, we have had an enormous

[21:59:01] $1,000 donation

[21:59:04] From Minnie's mom

[21:59:07] I'd love to tell you your son is wonderful. It's so much to do. Oh my goodness

[21:59:12] I can't even there's a lot of overlaps here. I think you were very much, right?

[21:59:17] This is going to be very much an overlap phase.

[21:59:20] Yeah, it's an intertipid production put there to give us some context here,

[21:59:24] is the HP when they came out of that phase is the amount of HP Kai Bezahat.

[21:59:28] What?

[21:59:29] As we have a datamined secret cutscene,

[21:59:32] why don't we see this super-amazing datamined cutscene spoiler bitch?

[21:59:36] Whoa, what is it?

[21:59:37] I wonder.

[21:59:41] It's almost over.

[21:59:45] Is that Sally Deeds?

[21:59:47] Your ambition was rare, you know.

[21:59:50] Yet to strike even betraying your own mother.

[21:59:55] Here you are.

[21:59:58] Oh, not the beans!

[22:00:01] Nothing.

[22:00:02] When did it kick in? Is it like a slow burn?

[22:00:06] Shut up!

[22:00:08] Oh, there it is!

[22:00:11] Oh my!

[22:00:14] Merry Christmas!

[22:00:15] Hmm!

[22:00:16] You look like you've made a mistake.

[22:00:18] Do you feel like you've made a mistake?

[22:00:21] I'm fine.

[22:00:22] Would you like to take a little break?

[22:00:23] Yeah, I'm moving down.

[22:00:24] All right.

[22:00:25] It's it.

[22:00:26] Oh.

[22:00:27] Oh.

[22:00:28] Oh.

[22:00:29] Oh.

[22:00:30] Oh.

[22:00:31] Oh.

[22:00:32] Oh.

[22:00:33] Oh.

[22:00:34] Oh.

[22:00:35] Oh.

[22:00:36] You're going to spit again?

[22:00:38] You need to learn to swallow.

[22:00:40] And on that bomb show, we'll beat you at you for the night.

[22:00:43] Indeed.

[22:00:44] We'll see you.

[22:00:44] Good night, everyone.

[22:00:45] Good night.

[22:00:45] I have to administer a spanking.

[22:00:47] Oh, Mitch, they were just so professionally coming in for you, too.

[22:01:12] They were just laughing.

[22:01:14] See, it was amazing.

[22:01:19] At the end, they were feeding the beef crust.

[22:01:21] It was going to happen, it was like, you're a niece to me yourself.

[22:01:28] I was not disappointed.

[22:01:30] Thank you so much.

[22:01:31] I don't know.

[22:01:32] This is just incredible.

[22:01:34] It is cinema.

[22:01:37] I'm crying.

[22:01:39] The race world first is the best time.

[22:01:41] because of all the interesting mechanics and bosses dying and not so many people as well as thousands of people.

[22:01:47] No, of course. Oh, there are people playing the game.

[22:01:50] Yeah, they do play the game. I hear it.

[22:01:52] So one thing that is worth taking out of that video though was that $1,000 donation by Minnie's mother.

[22:01:58] I heard that when I was not on the cast and I was like, oh my God, that is literally the nicest thing.

[22:02:08] I cannot overstate how amazing Vinny's mom is.

[22:02:12] That is because I'm Vinny.

[22:02:13] I mean, Vinny's okay.

[22:02:15] Vinny's all right.

[22:02:16] Vinny's all right.

[22:02:16] We have been raising money for Games for Love,

[22:02:19] a phenomenal charity that provides entertainment

[22:02:22] and distraction therapy to children

[22:02:24] who are hospitalized with terrible conditions.

[22:02:28] Everyone in chat and we of course know

[22:02:29] how valuable it is to play video games

[22:02:31] for distraction, for entertainment,

[22:02:33] to find joy, to meet new people,

[22:02:34] to find fulfillment in life.

[22:02:35] So really, really great to see chat

[22:02:37] So much with this wonderful charity. We have raised twenty one thousand four hundred thirty five dollars and sixty nine cents for

[22:02:43] Charity, I would think I would just first call it nice

[22:02:48] In earning several chat incentives as we have gone we currently oh chat the RC rumble and the scuffed cosplay yesterday

[22:02:57] We did deliver the who's castes it anyway. We reached that cosplay as well

[22:03:01] scuffed cosplay so apparently according to production we were told yesterday because

[22:03:04] uh uh medic and i were talking about this they have it ready it's cooked it's good to go whatever

[22:03:09] scuff cosplay is going to a tale it's good to go um rc rumble i'm also interested in a lot of

[22:03:14] little race cars running around with a camera attached surely without feet leading the way

[22:03:19] um and then in just three and a half thousand dollars we have raider portraits the return of

[22:03:26] what is what is raider portraits some kind of artistic endeavor the return of alex ross oh my

[22:03:33] Oh my God. I do love Alex Ross.

[22:03:36] Everybody loves Alex Ross.

[22:03:38] I thought I do want to say about the scavcast. I had a little bit of an idea.

[22:03:42] I was standing at the player area. You can see the player area right now on screen.

[22:03:47] There's two rows and they're like looking at each other.

[22:03:51] And in the middle there's just like kind of this path.

[22:03:54] And I was doing a secret lab interview.

[22:03:58] And I saw this path and I was like, and the players were not there.

[22:04:00] And I was like, wow, this looks like a runway.

[22:04:03] And you know there's fashion week coming up as well

[22:04:06] in Italy.

[22:04:07] So I was like, hmm, we should do something about this.

[22:04:10] So now maybe the Skaff cosplay could be showcased.

[22:04:13] It could, on the runway.

[22:04:15] On the runway.

[22:04:16] I've already taken a run on the runway.

[22:04:17] I saw.

[22:04:18] It was beautiful.

[22:04:19] Modeling some white canyx walking.

[22:04:22] And we also need people to be on the side and cheer

[22:04:26] and protect this it was actually a fashion week.

[22:04:31] I'm just super worried about what kind of costumes and stuff the cosplay is going to entail.

[22:04:35] I've heard rumors.

[22:04:36] You've heard rumors?

[22:04:37] I haven't heard anything, but I'm excited for it.

[22:04:40] Me too.

[22:04:41] We are still, of course, raising money for Games For Love and we welcome any and all

[22:04:45] questions or comments or observations from chat.

[22:04:49] Send those donations in.

[22:04:50] We do have a couple anonymous sending in $10 with no comment necessary.

[22:04:55] children help mic drop thank you very much and just a moment ago Roxas a friend of mine in stream

[22:05:02] sent in ten dollars again no comment ten children helped easy for them thank you very very much

[22:05:07] keep those donations coming in and we will continue trying to reach these charity goals

[22:05:11] am i hearing a lullaby i'm hearing anything it's lo-fi okay it sounded like some sleeping

[22:05:19] music coming in. It is morning time. I'll have it later. Raves? Yeah. Rave music. Oh,

[22:05:30] I thought we were back on the runway. This time we're having a rave. That would be a

[22:05:34] great idea as well. I would not mind a rave. But they should have told me beforehand because

[22:05:41] I could have brought some stuff. Go on. What kind of stuff? Hey, wake up. Oh no, I'm hearing.

[22:05:48] do you not hear this? I hear it. I mean chat is sleepy chat right now it is fairly early here

[22:05:55] in Cologne. Is that the team speak poke? Yeah the poke from team speak which Echo still uses

[22:06:01] team speak for all internal guild communications uh somewhat antiquated in many people's views

[22:06:08] but uh it's low latency and works relatively well anytime they've tried anything else there's

[22:06:11] been complaints. Yeah people make fun of it but it's actually um very good certainly much better

[22:06:17] than Discord. Whoa, shots fired. Goodbye to that Discord partnership.

[22:06:29] No, but the Discord voice chat, my guild actually switched to TeamSpeak now as well.

[22:06:33] Yeah. Interesting, like it's a 3-day rating guild. But I personally had a lot of issues,

[22:06:38] I'm not sure, I'm sure there's other people that had issues as well, otherwise we wouldn't

[22:06:41] have switched. But I had a hard time hearing some of the calls and that were made to

[22:06:47] Yeah, regular recalls on Discord and at some point, like, people got really upset, it's like,

[22:06:54] why didn't you like do this? Like, we called and then I didn't hear anything. And I said,

[22:06:59] no, I did call it. It's like, no, you didn't. Yeah, I did. No, you didn't. At some point,

[22:07:03] it figured out, okay, sometimes there's like multiple people speaking and a person that

[22:07:09] wants to like make a call, it just doesn't go through, which is a problem with many voice

[22:07:15] tools, right? Because having multiple people speak at the same time it's very hard to hear them

[22:07:21] simultaneously and what Discord does I think is they'll just have one person that speaks, the

[22:07:26] first person speaks like louder and anyone else that tries to speak over it is like a little bit

[22:07:30] lower so it's hard to hear sometimes. So we should do speak and that is the main reason why

[22:07:36] they're also using TeamSpeak for this better quality of voice and the possibility of

[22:07:41] of assigning different kinds of push-and-talk buttons

[22:07:46] to speak to only certain players.

[22:07:48] Internal channels.

[22:07:49] Internal channels, yeah.

[22:07:50] Not at all toxic.

[22:07:52] You also can set up priority speaker stuff.

[22:07:54] So that's it.

[22:07:55] True.

[22:07:55] But now we sound like we're endorsing TeamSpeak,

[22:07:58] sponsored by them, which is not the case.

[22:08:00] It's just the program that you use.

[22:08:01] I don't care about the companies that make these.

[22:08:04] I'm just stating the truth.

[22:08:07] Yeah.

[22:08:08] Any time that people hear for the first time

[22:08:09] that Echo uses TeamSpeak,

[22:08:10] usually a raised eyebrow because it's such an old program but it works for them, works well,

[22:08:14] and that is indeed what they use. We are currently farming Mythic Plus, everyone in the raid farming

[22:08:19] Mythic Plus except Scrype Pot and Roger who don't need to farm because they're all benched to work

[22:08:24] on figuring out the raid, are trying to figure out what they're going to be doing for the

[22:08:27] rest of the day and we are also speculating. Do you go in and try to kill the Silken Court

[22:08:31] or do you go do some Mythic Splits, a combination of both? Neither of us I think

[22:08:36] I think, I believe, killing Silicon Court would have a huge impact on the race.

[22:08:40] Yeah.

[22:08:41] Unless they did it now.

[22:08:42] Yeah.

[22:08:43] Getting 6 or 7 hours on AntsRack would be huge, but they're not going to kill it now.

[22:08:46] It would take the whole day to do if they do it.

[22:08:49] Yeah.

[22:08:50] Certainly.

[22:08:51] I mean, Liquid still having their best try at 9.8%, I'm not sure if they're still

[22:08:55] rating.

[22:08:56] Presumably still, probably will, for a little while longer.

[22:08:58] Okay, they are still rating, so they are trying to kill it and I think they think

[22:09:03] that it's killable.

[22:09:04] It's certainly killable.

[22:09:05] Yeah, or it's for them right in like this moment like

[22:09:11] You know what I mean? I know what you mean like a kill is with in a killable back or two

[22:09:16] Achilles within the realm of possibility within the next hour. Yeah, that's certainly the case the the 10% full they had that lots of people

[22:09:22] Dead for quite a long time the boss is killable

[22:09:24] Interest we've had an interesting spread of bosses right going from the first four which were largely relevant to a very tight

[22:09:30] AoE DPS check to a very tight single target DPS check and now with this 5% nerf

[22:09:36] I don't even know that I would call something for that type of a DPS check

[22:09:39] It's an extraordinarily tight coordination check now if you can get through the very difficult

[22:09:45] Coordination of the fight with everyone alive then it's just going to flop

[22:09:50] I think without too much concern about the DPS check because we also saw the way that the enrage works as far as we can tell is

[22:09:55] Is exactly there is no no enrage in any of the phases except once you break the second shield

[22:10:02] Come out of the second in a mission

[22:10:04] You have a three-minute timer before the bosses buff themselves by 10 billion percent and start chasing you down and killing you

[22:10:11] But that's fairly kind of all and last kind of a long time. It's not a everyone gets hit with a one hit

[22:10:17] Enraged like Kivesa had it's a hardened rage like back in vanilla where the boss just does a lot more melee damage

[22:10:23] and wanders around one shotting your people, which means that you can linger for a long

[22:10:27] time, like 20, 30, 40 seconds in that heart and rage, potentially, you know, giving you

[22:10:32] that extra window in which to kill the boss. I think that it's very, very killable if you

[22:10:36] get to that point with everyone alive.

[22:10:38] I'm also glad that it isn't a really tight demonstration because of the way the shield

[22:10:43] into the mission works. Because what I've heard, and when I heard this, I was like,

[22:10:47] oh no, like they delayed breaking the shield sometimes to get like better cooldown

[22:10:53] timings and I was like oh no I do not want that to be true.

[22:10:57] Well it is true but Blizzard this time saw that coming right so famously on

[22:11:01] Kelthizad there was no punishment preventing you from just lingering in a

[22:11:04] phase for as long as you wanted so you could just get your cooldown timings

[22:11:06] reset every time which had a huge impact on the fight.

[22:11:08] This boss not having an overall from start to finish in Rage Timer does

[22:11:13] invite that kind of manipulation of the shield phases

[22:11:17] however Blizzard saw that coming to a certain degree during the field

[22:11:21] shield phase every few seconds, the boss pulses with damage, applying a debuff, increasing your damage from subsequent pulses.

[22:11:28] That will eventually scale out of control. Yesterday, Echo's strategy, at least, was to just get three pulses and then get the heck out of dodge.

[22:11:35] Once they got that fourth pulse unexpectedly, they did wipe every time.

[22:11:39] You could plan for it and have extra cooldowns ready to go and linger in there for longer to get more cooldowns back,

[22:11:44] but you can't do it, and definitely it's going to give you like a few extra seconds at most.

[22:11:48] So not something that's infinitely exploitable is would that be the wrong word?

[22:11:53] Manageable in a way to manipulate the fight. Maybe we're avoiding that exploit word

[22:11:59] You can't take advantage of the shield phase to completely, you know

[22:12:03] So linger there forever getting your cooldowns back you have to get out eventually also that first intermission very difficult because every time

[22:12:08] She pulls the damage she also creates orbs and every round of orbs is increasingly difficult to soak

[22:12:13] Well, if you have a 10 to 20% error rate on each round of orbs, every extra round of orbs

[22:12:18] make it that much more likely that you're going to eventually have a mistake.

[22:12:21] And there's so many orbs that making a mistake, missing one orb results in everyone taking

[22:12:26] an extra stack, which massively increases the difficulty of soaking more.

[22:12:29] So it does have time limits in that sense to push you out of the intermission,

[22:12:33] which I think is good foresight on Blizzard's part.

[22:12:36] Definitely.

[22:12:38] Especially because it's not like a super big damage check anyway anymore in the

[22:12:42] last phase they don't necessarily have to worry about it too much other than maybe defensive

[22:12:46] cooldowns which is something that we've seen as well in the past not just waiting for offenses but

[22:12:50] also like those defensive like longer cooldowns which we don't have too many of at the moment

[22:12:56] that are like super super important there so that won't necessarily be the case but yeah I do like

[22:13:01] that that consideration because people were very angry when we had time to have a donation

[22:13:08] where multiple bosses were like that were yet to wait. Yeah, none of that has happened

[22:13:13] ever since, at least not as severe as it was back then. So definitely a little bit happier,

[22:13:18] but as Iric does go down soon for this group here that we're watching, they are plus two in

[22:13:22] this plus 10 vault, also plus two at the Siege earlier, so definitely looks like they

[22:13:29] are having a very easy time. And of course they also have a lot of item level, and they

[22:13:33] They're also very good players.

[22:13:34] We have Miras in the group, right?

[22:13:36] Multi-time MDI champion, no problem.

[22:13:38] And this is a full group of players.

[22:13:40] We had some other groups going through

[22:13:42] that were recruiting keys from helpers fairly often,

[22:13:45] which does sometimes cause a few extra problems

[22:13:48] if you don't have a full Echo Group,

[22:13:49] but you'd expect Echo Groups to blast through these.

[22:13:52] They are farming these plus 10s,

[22:13:53] filling up their vault, getting some extra loot,

[22:13:55] which this tier has been insane for splits, right?

[22:13:57] The bosses have such demanding DPS requirements

[22:14:00] and demanding comp requirements

[22:14:01] that we've seen more splits.

[22:14:03] This tier than I think we've seen since Jailer,

[22:14:06] which was an absurd tier for splits

[22:14:08] with the way a tier worked.

[22:14:09] And you could essentially just constantly rotate

[22:14:11] more people and get more tier.

[22:14:14] And was also the longest tier ever in terms of pull count.

[22:14:17] This tier, I think, may be in second place

[22:14:21] after Zeppelker, in terms of being the second hardest,

[22:14:25] second largest pull count of all of these raids

[22:14:29] in modern Mavis series.

[22:14:31] Yeah, we're still gonna have to see how long Antirect is gonna be, of course, or how many

[22:14:38] pulls, but presumably it's gonna be a difficult boss, and it's gonna take a couple of days.

[22:14:46] Hopefully not too long, so we end up with this reset situation that we talked about,

[22:14:51] but I do think that Blizzard is gonna keep an eye on it, and they're gonna do their

[22:14:54] best for that to not happen.

[22:14:56] We also don't want them to under tune it, but that is also something that Blizzard

[22:14:59] has been worried about in the past and nowadays what they do is they, if they're not sure about

[22:15:05] something, about tuning, then they're just gonna over tune it, give it too much HP initially

[22:15:11] and then they'll nerf it whenever they see okay, now we know okay they're gonna be doing

[22:15:17] so and so much damage and this is like a great number and some people always get angry about

[22:15:22] these tuning changes that I had in mid-race but I do think we have to give some credits

[22:15:28] the Blizzard here and just state how incredibly difficult it is to actually tune numbers perfectly

[22:15:36] correctly beforehand, so I wouldn't expect them to do that before even seeing anything,

[22:15:42] right? It's just so, so, so hard to do that. I completely agree. WoW is an extraordinarily

[22:15:46] difficult game to balance and tune bosses for, because you don't know whether your internal

[22:15:52] team has correctly identified every single potential combination of loadouts available from

[22:15:56] from the enormous number of different layered systems

[22:15:59] from which you can obtain power in this game.

[22:16:01] So you can't know what the teams are gonna do.

[22:16:03] So Blizzard does use their performance on earlier bosses

[22:16:07] to say, okay, so this is the kind of damage

[22:16:08] they get in daily, this is the kind of damage

[22:16:09] they can get in cleave, this is the kind of damage

[22:16:11] they do in single target, and then they tweak the bosses.

[22:16:13] And I think that's completely fine,

[22:16:14] so well as it's done judiciously at good timings,

[22:16:17] which to Blizzard's credit

[22:16:18] has been the case this time around, right?

[22:16:20] They adjusted Kaiveza's health,

[22:16:22] but it was at a point where no one

[22:16:24] was possibly near a kill anyway,

[22:16:25] So it didn't have any impact, just basically tweaking it just enough to make it significantly challenging for the world first guilds to get the kill without being impossible.

[22:16:33] And I think that they've done a good job with that.

[22:16:35] So I think no criticism there.

[22:16:37] I think that's the best you can do when it's that hard to preemptively tune it before the race even releases,

[22:16:43] not knowing what comp they're going to use, how much damage those comps are going to do, how these different synergistic effects are going to work together.

[22:16:49] And you always have the guilds finding weird and interesting things.

[22:16:51] interesting things, for example on Kavesa, both Ryzen and Mirius were double potting the DPS

[22:16:57] with this new potion, throwing them out your DPS groups in order to give them extra primary stat

[22:17:01] right before the augmentation of Oka's started blasting even mine onto them, so you have this

[22:17:04] creative use of all of the game mechanics that can cause very high difficulty anticipating how

[22:17:10] much damage they're going to do. Even in one tanking strat, I very highly doubt that

[22:17:15] the blizzard was anticipating that to happen as well so yeah yeah and the fact

[22:17:21] that they still managed like to like that they were like standing their

[22:17:26] grounds with QS and say okay we think you can do this and it ended up being true

[22:17:31] while some of us were even doubting it we were like sure this is

[22:17:34] killable so that is something that you got to give them some credit for and I

[22:17:40] hope that there's gonna be good tuning for an strike as well of course

[22:17:43] Although I wonder, I mean credit to Blizzard for sending the ground saying we think this is killable and they're doing it

[22:17:48] Similarly on Brute Twister they did however

[22:17:50] I wonder if if you would consider that to be as much a triumph considering that in order to take down the Brute Twister

[22:17:56] Everyone three healed it and in order to take down Kaveza everyone one tanked it

[22:17:59] Is that actually as large as Kassass?

[22:18:01] When the only reason they were able to meet these very certain damage checks were through some fairly degenerate comps

[22:18:07] Yeah, it's difficult to, I personally like when there's some

[22:18:11] some crazy things like that happening. Like for example the two healing of Rhygalon or

[22:18:18] two healing of Star Ogre or something like that.

[22:18:21] Four healing Star Ogre.

[22:18:23] A Sara two healing happen as well.

[22:18:25] Yeah, exactly. I think it always like, I know that it's not supposed to be like this but

[22:18:31] as long as only the Erasable first skills are doing it, I think it's okay. And it

[22:18:36] creates these like crazy scenarios and it also gives some hype to the race. Like

[22:18:40] when people are there one tanking it wow and then they check out how they do it and of course it's not easy to

[22:18:46] One-Tank right you have to do it's use Ankhton and you have two battle rushes it has to be perfect timings

[22:18:50] And it's so very difficult and not something that like any other guilds will

[22:18:55] Probably try to replicate especially because you can't use battle rushes for anything other than tank

[22:18:59] Which makes it infinitely harder. So do we think like some of these situations are okay

[22:19:03] But yeah, definitely preserve Shorizou first, rather than like a normal strategy for all the other guilds, hopefully.

[22:19:11] But yeah, I do think that the only thing that maybe has caused some issues is the one tank versus two tank thing on

[22:19:19] Siliconcourt, because the guilds, like I haven't looked at how much time each guild spent with the one tanking strategy

[22:19:26] But you could argue, okay, the guild that spent more time

[22:19:28] one tanking, Siliconcourt would have lost more to that strategy while if they were too tanked

[22:19:35] they might have gotten further into progressing the fight. And they didn't know that the boss is

[22:19:39] gonna get changed so they basically wasted time with this strategy. Yeah obviously Liquid after

[22:19:46] killing Kivesa the other night did go dark. Yeah we don't know what they did. Some number of 30 to

[22:19:52] 50 pulls offline we don't know what they were doing what strategies they were using but when

[22:19:57] they were playing I think they were for the most part exclusively using two tank

[22:20:01] them the the hotfix came in relatively early I believe into the raid day and

[22:20:06] they were ready for that. Echo spent maybe a third to a half of yesterday two

[22:20:11] tanking and then swapped to the one tank for the second half of the raid day.

[22:20:14] And I think you're right that if that had a big impact you could argue

[22:20:19] that that's slightly disadvantageous, but I don't think it's actually

[22:20:22] relevant right? The main challenge of this fight is the coordination

[22:20:25] necessary to deal with all of the overlaps and so-called the orbs and get

[22:20:28] everything resolved and having one or two tanks didn't really impact it that

[22:20:32] much. In fact, the reason why they started one tank wasn't even

[22:20:36] necessarily because they needed to for the DPS check, it's just because they

[22:20:39] could and it didn't really change anything because this boss's tank damage

[22:20:42] profile was so interesting. Even on the pulls where they were two tanking, we

[22:20:45] had deaths because that debuff lasted a minute and it was difficult to swap. And

[22:20:47] the tank that wasn't primarily tanking the poison bolts from the

[22:20:52] spider, which constant link approach in, was taking significantly less damage than almost

[22:20:56] half of the rest of the raid, right?

[22:20:58] There's just not very much tank damage.

[22:21:00] So unlike Kaiveza, which was difficult to one tank constantly hitting you with overwhelming

[22:21:04] damage that caused you to die once per phase.

[22:21:07] And even outside of that, you know, lethal damage, doing extensive damage sufficient

[22:21:11] to frequently kill the solo tank, right?

[22:21:14] She hit really, really hard if you're only using one tank.

[22:21:17] For whatever reason, the Silicon Core just didn't do very much tank damage.

[22:21:20] it was just a fairly trivial to do. Normally you wouldn't do a degenerate comp like go to 1k and

[22:21:25] tank until you thought you had to to meet a DPS check and get a progressive point where it was

[22:21:29] reasonable to do that, but in this case I don't really think solo tanking had very much of an

[22:21:33] impact on Ekko's overall progress. So I think that Blizzard's done a very admirable job of

[22:21:38] dealing with all of the timing issues that arise when you're trying to tweak fights just

[22:21:42] a little bit to make them killable, but barely I don't think there's any criticism to offer

[22:21:46] there. We do, I was talking earlier about my prediction that this may end up being the most

[22:21:52] total pulled raid since the Jailer tier. Preheat tells me he has a, I'm sorry Mitch, also aka Preheat,

[22:22:00] tells me he has a spreadsheet of modern raiding history since Heimahl of last boss pull count.

[22:22:07] Oh wow. Oh this is, this is for everything. So total pulls over there on the right,

[22:22:11] 428 thus far for Maribor palace 839 for a midget still 276 for average so the most was in torus

[22:22:21] No, that's too Sargeras too Sargeras is 1248 that makes it in 1200 sepulcher

[22:22:28] We're not anywhere near that 1200 mark yet in Maribor palace with three bosses in row taking

[22:22:33] multiple hundreds we just have this is so interesting i didn't know that how far since it

[22:22:37] I didn't know all of the sea there.

[22:22:39] I didn't know all of the sea there.

[22:22:41] I knew that, because that's when I was still competing,

[22:22:45] and I knew that dead rays, half-race,

[22:22:47] took longer than anything I've done before.

[22:22:50] But then afterwards, when I stopped race all first,

[22:22:53] all of these other rays came out,

[22:22:55] and I thought they were way more pulsed than half-race,

[22:22:58] but it wasn't actually that far off.

[22:23:00] This is fascinating.

[22:23:01] Yeah, I love this graphic.

[22:23:03] I want to look at this much longer.

[22:23:05] Yeah, it's interesting. Two of Sogaras, I think we all knew how many pools that was, but partially it was because Kil'Jaeden was actually like unkillable for quite a while.

[22:23:18] Right.

[22:23:19] Like it took them a super super long time to do.

[22:23:21] The classic mathematically impossible meme, where it was actually not so much mathematically impossible as just mechanically impossible to perform.

[22:23:27] Which is crazy, right?

[22:23:29] I wonder, okay, do you think that if you would take today's Racer first skills, put them back to unnerve Kel'Jaden, could they kill it?

[22:23:39] I don't know, I'm gonna say killing it, but would it be maybe more likely? Would they have gotten further?

[22:23:44] So I do think that the teams of today have pushed each other into this hyper competitive area where they get better and better every tier.

[22:23:51] They are significantly better than they were. The Racer world first has resulted in the ability to give players a little bit of an income

[22:23:57] that recruits even more talented players. So I think the teams overall have a slightly higher

[22:24:01] skill level and significantly better officer teams that are creating strats and guiding the

[22:24:05] guilds through, right? I'm not flaming the previous ones. It's just the nature of competition has

[22:24:11] worked to make the team significantly better. I still don't know if Kil'Jayden would have

[22:24:15] worked, right? I remember watching the video about those timings and that was absurd.

[22:24:18] It was pretty.

[22:24:19] It was brutally absurdly ridiculously impossible and I'm not sure that anything would have

[22:24:25] have changed that from these teams. A huge portion of the thing that make the teams better

[22:24:30] now than before isn't really so much player skill, which I would argue has only marginally

[22:24:34] gone up as your average skill level has gone up. We're back on Spotify on our TV. What

[22:24:39] is...

[22:24:40] We're at HDMI1.

[22:24:41] Yeah, we need HDMI1. Okay, well done. Well done. I think average player skill has probably

[22:24:47] increased by a few percentage points, but the average outside raid leader and

[22:24:52] officer skills, strategy building, and weaker development has increased by like a thousandfold.

[22:24:56] Yeah. Oh my god, what is happening? You turned on Spotify. It's now a rave in here. Our speakers

[22:25:05] are blasting music. I'll just mute it. We fixed it. Oh my god. It's still going on. It's playing

[22:25:20] music. It's playing. It's like it popped up with Spotify and then started playing.

[22:25:24] Like every every we touch nothing every 20 minutes. It comes up with Spotify

[22:25:32] There's somebody controlling this

[22:25:37] We didn't touch anything

[22:25:43] It just pops up the Spotify it's like launching it's I think it's changing to like another port

[22:25:51] Maybe

[22:25:52] We spot by oh here

[22:25:54] Okay, I'm so confused yeah, just meet the TV

[22:25:58] You're back to my one and we're chilling

[22:26:01] I needed when I leave

[22:26:03] Oh, that's smart just troll them just as much as we got trolled

[22:26:07] Funktionnikvervukvar

[22:26:19] Interesting

[22:26:25] Thank you!

[22:26:31] That was very helpful.

[22:26:33] Alright, so yeah, this is a fascinating spreadsheet.

[22:26:39] Shout out to GronForce for creating it.

[22:26:41] That's really, really cool.

[22:26:43] I love seeing this.

[22:26:44] So I'm way off, right?

[22:26:46] It's easy to say, okay, these last three bosses have been really, really hard,

[22:26:50] but it turns out in retrospect, lots of other bosses were hard.

[22:26:54] Other tiers were hard because they had other bosses that were hard earlier than just the fifth boss, right?

[22:26:59] this is a very rare tier for so many bosses in order to get one shot

[22:27:02] also there's a lot of there's not a lot of bosses i mean now that i look at

[22:27:06] health i sit down there's there were 12 bosses

[22:27:09] yeah only eight some early bosses taking 20 pools like they'll add that

[22:27:13] really quickly right right this 19 pool boss i think in health i was

[22:27:17] gorfiend and then so 12 46 was gorf 8 19 11 11 in

[22:27:22] sebelgarh but the we still have a lot of room to climb right so

[22:27:27] Silkencourt currently at 169-ish pulls for liquid. We don't know which guild will kill it first and how many pulls that will be

[22:27:34] But I think we can comfortably say 150 plus even for echo and then the last boss a huge enigma right now

[22:27:40] I just saw Hollander's

[22:27:42] I just saw it like 358 number

[22:27:46] Yeah, Hollander's voice but you run boss at the tier. I miss Hollander's

[22:27:50] Nobody misses Hollander's. I do

[22:27:52] Viewers miss Hollander's players do not miss Hollander's

[22:27:55] Do you have a prediction as to the last boss for Nerberphiles?

[22:28:01] Because that will determine how high we go.

[22:28:03] Yeah, I think the last boss is going to be, I think it's more than 300.

[22:28:08] Me too.

[22:28:10] But I don't think it's more than 400.

[22:28:13] You're not kind of...

[22:28:16] Well, I do think that the pool count always just, it also depends on the difficulty.

[22:28:21] If phase one is the most difficult, which I don't want it to be,

[22:28:23] then the pull count will be higher. Yeah, if the phase one is difficult to get

[22:28:27] through then you have very fast wipes and you stack up really quickly through a

[22:28:31] couple hundred pulls but if it's not and there's some kind of like last phase

[22:28:35] that we don't know very much about not saying necessarily mythic phase although

[22:28:37] there could be but also they've had a good a good job recently of just

[22:28:41] having last phases be kind of ambiguous and ending matic even in the

[22:28:45] dungeon journal and doesn't play out the way you thought. If that's hard that

[22:28:48] can not absolutely add a lot of pulls trying to get to that point and

[22:28:51] progress through it. All speculation at the moment, we're at 428 total pulls thus far.

[22:28:57] So right in kind of the average range of total raid pull counts, but we still have two bosses

[22:29:03] left to die, both Silkencourt and Queen Ancerac. This is one of the rare tiers, however, where

[22:29:11] you may not even see the last boss until week two. That does not happen very often.

[22:29:17] Yeah, that is definitely out of the ordinary and one thing that we talked about as well as like this whole

[22:29:24] potential secret phase on Antirag, which to be fair, I don't think like for the race

[22:29:29] Like it's obviously really hype for the viewers and for the players to see a secret phase

[22:29:33] But I don't think like I don't think just a secret phase existing makes the boss more or less

[22:29:39] difficult for a race because

[22:29:41] Last boss on mythic is so different to the heroic version of the boss that you could argue that

[22:29:48] Every face is like a secret face in that regard. I think that's a really good point

[22:29:52] The last last boss is typically so very different and unusually in recent history

[22:29:56] Untested to the point where you just have no idea what's going to happen and it is an entire secret phase

[22:30:01] We were talking earlier about Blizzard having done such a good job in recent years of you know

[22:30:06] Slightly tweaking boss health in order to make it killable, but only barely

[22:30:09] At times it doesn't impact the race overall, although there have been times when that has happened somewhat

[22:30:15] aggressively. I was wondering your thoughts about how likely it is that that'll happen, because you said that when you were saying

[22:30:21] Hope on Spock is not too easy and isn't an easy damage check. What if, however, Blizzard doesn't

[22:30:27] anticipate how hard the earlier bosses are, think that you were able to get to on Spock this week and tune it like

[22:30:33] a Sylvanas or a Gahoon or a Jaina or most other bosses, which do end up typically being tuned in such a way that they

[22:30:39] are just barely with perfect gameplay, killable week one, and instead we're going into a second

[22:30:45] reset, which Blizzard probably doesn't want to go into a third, maybe making them less

[22:30:49] likely to change it and result in getting to an extract with 5, 6, 7 extra item level

[22:30:54] from the reset, and it turning into a relatively easy damage check compared to the earlier

[22:30:59] bosses of the tier, because it's a week two boss instead of a week one boss.

[22:31:03] Yeah, if that would have been the case, then they would have just, or they can still buff it now, right?

[22:31:10] They can still, on the reset, they can say, oh, like, 5% more HP on this and that, which we've seen before.

[22:31:18] Would they, would they with the fear that that might push it over into like a Wednesday kill?

[22:31:21] Then they can still adjust it back. Like, I think they would still like, oh, we're doing it.

[22:31:24] But then we're talking about, we're talking about like, tuning it up for the beginning of the week

[22:31:28] and then down for the end of the week and overcoming, much more likely that it's gonna have an inordinate impact on the race, right?

[22:31:33] They turn it up for the beginning of the week and it's hard and the guilds are both like banging their head against it and then they change it.

[22:31:39] I think what they would do is they would increase like maybe something like the overall health initially or something that's related to I don't know like phase one or whatever.

[22:31:50] And then once the guilds progress through the fight and they see oh we might get too close to the reset then they can nerf something specifically to the phase that they haven't reached yet or the phase that they're currently in.

[22:32:02] in and then say okay well I guess we're just gonna make the last phase easier than what we wanted it to be

[22:32:08] to prevent that from happening which I think that's very dangerous I think that's very dangerous I

[22:32:14] think I'd rather I'm leaving home than the boss dying in like on like Wednesday I still think

[22:32:20] I agree it's significantly better than a dying right on the reset right that's horrible

[22:32:24] but I think it would be better for the to just trust the mechanical difficulty of the boss

[22:32:29] to make a reasonable challenge and not try to make it tightly true if you're

[22:32:32] adjusting the boss to be barely killable with week two gear because you thought

[22:32:37] they were gonna get to week one and they didn't and then you're dealing with this

[22:32:39] whole issue of okay we want to make sure it's on a reset kill so we're going up

[22:32:42] and down that's going to that's very dangerously gonna impact progression

[22:32:45] and it might be better to just say okay however easy the PS check is however

[22:32:49] is what it is you have to progress through mechanically and made the

[22:32:52] best skilled win right instead of instead of trying to make a

[22:32:55] mechanical challenge and a DPS check that has to be monitored in the way that

[22:32:59] Kaivez it was. You wouldn't want tuning like what happened on Kaivez that it

[22:33:02] happened on an end boss in the middle of a week too resulting in you know an

[22:33:06] outrage from whichever fans felt that they were more injured by the timing of

[22:33:10] those changes. Yeah I mean you are right I think and even if the boss

[22:33:15] would not be like a super tight DPS check but I guess I don't want to

[22:33:21] talk about a DPS check only it's also other things that are gonna be a lot

[22:33:25] easier with more gear right it's not just everything it's also the incoming damage

[22:33:28] that matters as well the more gear you have the less of a healing check

[22:33:33] bosses are as well of course so yeah relying purely on mechanics still even

[22:33:40] though even though I think that is more interesting than having like small

[22:33:44] little sort of ability and damage checks everywhere because I do like like

[22:33:48] mechanical difficult bosses then again that's always it can also be like a

[22:33:54] double-edged sword because at some point a mechanic is so difficult that it just

[22:33:57] becomes frustrating. Again, Halondra's type bosses or it's pre-nerf tindral where

[22:34:02] you only have like a second to soak a bunch of seeds and if you don't you

[22:34:06] just have a full rate wipe. Stuff like that is also just too harsh and also at

[22:34:10] some point just not enjoyable anymore. Not even for the race of the first

[22:34:13] wheels. Just a moment ago you were talking about how much you loved

[22:34:15] Thelanderous. Okay, that was a joke. I said I missed Thelanderous. It reminds me of yesterday they

[22:34:23] served what were they called those weird big raviolis? Some kind of crispy pancakes they

[22:34:32] called it. Which is weird to me pancakes are like sweet bread or something. Anyway yesterday

[22:34:37] yesterday they served yeah these these folded over ravioli type things stuffed with cheese

[22:34:42] in marinara and the girls said oh crispy pancakes i love crispy pancakes although

[22:34:47] when i think about it they're actually really disgusting i haven't eaten them since i was a kid

[22:34:50] like the the instant trigger of the happiness you experience from your five versus your adult

[22:34:55] reaction to the idea of like processed cheese and whatnot is exactly what happened with the

[22:35:00] with the laundry.

[22:35:01] They're like, oh, I love the laundry, but actually, it really kind of sucked.

[22:35:05] Yeah.

[22:35:06] This is very true.

[22:35:07] And it happened real fast.

[22:35:10] It did.

[22:35:11] The realization.

[22:35:12] Like, she said those seamlessly.

[22:35:13] I love those, but they're actually so disgusting.

[22:35:21] So I do want to make sure that we take time to thank the amazing sponsors who make the

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[22:35:54] have some t-shirts to show you but they have wandered off and been acquired by

[22:36:00] somebody somebody has joined them a testament to how awesome they are I've

[22:36:04] been over wearing my team spider shirt because it's just so nice I've been

[22:36:10] wearing it like a lot too and it's beautiful yeah I love the design on it I

[22:36:15] love the colors it's amazing yeah really really good I really enjoy it and you

[22:36:18] guys should check it out as well keep the donations coming in as well we would

[22:36:21] love to see us hit that $25,000 goal.

[22:36:25] How about we do something?

[22:36:28] Everyone's been doing these interim goals, $22,000,

[22:36:30] $22,000.

[22:36:31] Why don't we spend some time to brainstorm something

[22:36:34] we could do in an hour or two, if chat successfully

[22:36:37] reaches $22,000?

[22:36:38] And we'll throw it to comms for you guys

[22:36:40] to listen to while we brainstorm.

[22:36:43] Let's go.

[22:36:44] Yeah.

[22:36:59] Yeah, you're right.

[22:37:00] You're right.

[22:37:00] We'll see.

[22:37:01] We'll see.

[22:37:01] We'll never.

[22:37:02] OK.

[22:37:03] OK.

[22:37:09] Perfect.

[22:37:09] OK.

[22:37:10] I think they're not here.

[22:37:11] I think they're all...

[22:37:12] Alright well, we need a lot of space here so...

[22:37:15] Yeah just play the space good.

[22:37:18] What was the fun to call it?

[22:37:21] I think that's the fun to...

[22:37:32] Thank you.

[22:37:33] I'm behind this one.

[22:37:34] Oh, I'm behind you.

[22:37:40] Yeah, I'm on your call.

[22:37:46] Did they kill the boss?

[22:37:48] Yeah, they did.

[22:37:49] Legendary.

[22:37:51] They're getting machines.

[22:37:53] We're doing Mplus, they're not the Rampus.

[22:37:58] We're winning.

[22:38:00] Oh my god.

[22:38:02] We're fine, we're fine.

[22:38:04] I don't have D4 this one.

[22:38:12] We need to rush, we need to rush.

[22:38:16] Oh fuck.

[22:38:17] I'm losing a lot of health.

[22:38:19] Oh fuck.

[22:38:24] We're on top.

[22:38:25] Oh my god.

[22:38:27] Where was I kissing?

[22:38:30] Think it's bad. I'm sorry

[22:38:33] I just saw you up and I just pressed George

[22:38:37] I'm going in

[22:38:39] Now I also thought I thought it

[22:38:44] It could save us. I don't know if it's

[22:38:46] I think it's saving the rest. Oh, yeah, I'll hold

[22:38:50] Need for panking, James

[22:38:52] The slurry does infinite damage. Yes

[22:39:00] You completely find under root. It's just

[22:39:03] What the hell?

[22:39:05] Run!

[22:39:06] I just got caught on the wall last time, I'm sorry.

[22:39:11] He's a cleaner, Autobus.

[22:39:12] Yeah, I don't know.

[22:39:14] I sing in Persian as well.

[22:39:41] I'm back about.

[22:39:42] I think you can release him, but I...

[22:39:44] Yeah, I think so too, but I don't want to risk it.

[22:39:47] Yeah, careful when you own 30% HP, because I'm scared.

[22:39:50] Yeah, I know.

[22:40:00] I got stunned.

[22:40:01] Go, go, go, go!

[22:40:02] Brilliant.

[22:40:06] Oh, good, it's us, yeah.

[22:40:07] I'm a bit scared, I don't know.

[22:40:09] Up here?

[22:40:10] I don't know.

[22:40:11] That's better than this one

[22:40:13] I'm just giving it one shot

[22:40:17] I forgot, even a PN here

[22:40:28] I can take one

[22:40:30] Did a stacks try attack

[22:40:32] He's down as well

[22:40:34] Oh man

[22:40:36] Yeah, for high rung

[22:40:38] They want us to time this key

[22:40:40] It's best thingy

[22:40:42] It is best thingy

[22:41:14] Oh baby

[22:41:23] We need to take it

[22:41:25] Yeah, we cannot play this guy with more mobs, we need one Warlock at a time, Max.

[22:41:31] Yes.

[22:41:32] We cannot play this guy with any Warlocks, then we will work.

[22:41:35] Why?

[22:41:36] It's just how it is.

[22:41:38] It's a fucking beast.

[22:41:40] No, I mean...

[22:41:43] Well, with Archimage just pull everything.

[22:41:45] Not with Archimage, just pull.

[22:41:47] Yeah, I mean, do you think Archimage is equal to just pull?

[22:41:51] I mean, it's a plus 11 Hiky push.

[22:41:54] It's true actually

[22:41:58] We're literally doing world first kiss right now. I have to kiss that in mind

[22:42:01] And we have two guys. I mean lock the fucking double world full of focus

[22:42:06] Can you just check

[22:42:08] Okay, yeah, I mean

[22:42:10] Thank you gonna be holding baseball a little while

[22:42:13] Yeah, I'm living in back right now. We took this

[22:42:18] I've seen this for this guy. Yeah, I mean we can probably

[22:42:27] I'm doing damage now that's cool it's what he waited for but finally you guys are not

[22:42:41] What the fuck is this?

[22:42:43] It's a minus curve.

[22:42:47] I rather a game.

[22:42:49] A game?

[22:42:51] Okay.

[22:43:01] I actually feel like I'm playing classic in this dungeon.

[22:43:03] Yeah, I agree.

[22:43:05] There it is, there it is.

[22:43:06] You're in the dungeon guys.

[22:43:09] Ah.

[22:43:13] It's actually unreasonable.

[22:43:20] What's the mobs do?

[22:43:21] Experimental.

[22:43:37] Third one.

[22:43:38] Third two.

[22:43:40] Third three.

[22:43:42] Rapture, Gorobe, and Deter

[22:43:52] It's more than a 5x5 people floor, bro

[22:43:55] On these guys, by the way, when I ascend, he can do the chassis with the frontal

[22:44:01] But the animation spins like that

[22:44:04] I'm pulling back

[22:44:05] He can do the nutty lineup

[22:44:12] Yeah, sometimes the animation just doesn't spawn for a cone until 8% done

[22:44:17] When he's ascended, so beware

[22:44:19] It's like a gun up at us

[22:44:21] Yep, I lock in after the frontal

[22:44:28] I was on his small shots

[22:44:31] They have like no count as well

[22:44:44] Yeah, infinite HP 0 count

[22:44:47] And then their combo

[22:44:49] Yep

[22:44:51] They're coming combo though

[22:44:54] Lava Bender on the move, I have 2 minutes

[22:44:57] I'm going to get after this guy

[22:44:58] We can stun it

[22:45:01] I'm going to focus the lava bender

[22:45:04] You can do whatever you want

[22:45:08] You can do whatever you want. I'm popping two minutes on this guy.

[22:45:13] On the Bansky.

[22:45:14] I stunned Tril.

[22:45:19] And you died.

[22:45:20] I'm good.

[22:45:33] I just want to absorb off.

[22:45:36] Can I just do this pack for sure?

[22:45:38] Sure.

[22:45:39] Triple wall lock.

[22:45:40] Lock is fine. It's fine. It's fine.

[22:45:42] It's fine. It's fine.

[22:45:43] What did you do? Just...

[22:45:45] Hey!

[22:45:47] Okay. Okay.

[22:45:48] They do nothing.

[22:45:49] We need them for a count.

[22:45:51] They do nothing.

[22:45:53] I'll take purple.

[22:45:54] Yeah, and if you do nothing else, you'll see it.

[22:45:57] Yeah, exactly.

[22:45:57] Oh no, this isn't a bag.

[22:45:59] It's neat.

[22:46:05] And they only apply some absorbs for who cares.

[22:46:07] But you don't even take damage, huh?

[22:46:09] Because you...

[22:46:11] And it's true.

[22:46:12] Stop every test so you don't take damage.

[22:46:15] I mean, even if you...

[22:46:17] They go off.

[22:46:18] Oh, he was died, though.

[22:46:21] Yeah, but then was a double on.

[22:46:23] I wanna see if people don't kick when it's on healer.

[22:46:25] They come...

[22:46:26] Yeah, that's basically it.

[22:46:33] What is actually a fact?

[22:46:35] It's not the worst mentally serious on the healer

[22:46:37] and you're just holding it

[22:46:39] Yes, I just tanked it

[22:46:40] for PS, but PS is similar

[22:46:43] I was just really...

[22:46:44] Yeah, I'm not losing

[22:46:45] Yeah...

[22:46:47] I'm on a 4, I think

[22:46:49] I'm holding all cooldowns for these guys

[22:46:51] these ones

[22:46:51] Oh

[22:46:53] Yeah, I'm holding them

[22:46:54] The next back is Turbo Spice

[22:46:55] Yeah

[22:46:56] Blue Skirtchie

[22:46:57] Is it...

[22:47:00] I fought honestly, I would live for PS

[22:47:06] It's right for...

[22:47:07] double lava bender

[22:47:09] maybe summon

[22:47:10] yeah short legs

[22:47:12] one pommel at spree

[22:47:14] short legs

[22:47:16] next batch he will be a dragon

[22:47:20] then we'll be here in instant

[22:47:24] okay so on these guys

[22:47:26] i always see the omega sus front

[22:47:28] like the omega ultra sus

[22:47:30] the skull marker

[22:47:34] full sniggle target on skull

[22:47:36] yeah

[22:47:38] i thought we were

[22:47:48] Yeah, we'll see this, I think it's fine, maybe.

[22:47:55] Yeah, maybe.

[22:47:57] Dude, they're not doing the sus.

[22:48:03] I'm hyping it up and it doesn't happen.

[22:48:05] Yeah, actually, yeah.

[22:48:07] Yeah, true.

[22:48:08] You want to take the boss and the dragon, I mean, then.

[22:48:12] What happens then?

[22:48:14] Actually, no, because the adds were spawned, I think.

[22:48:17] This does some tech.

[22:48:19] I think so

[22:48:28] First

[22:48:29] Up end

[22:48:30] What is this?

[22:48:40] Are we last thing this one or are we last thing last boss?

[22:48:42] I wish it on, we can burn this last boss

[22:48:47] Both

[22:48:48] Is it this one? No

[22:48:50] Okay, sure

[22:48:51] Yeah, maybe we should last this guy as well for sure

[22:48:53] Yeah, it's hard

[22:48:56] I think this boss is harder than this

[22:48:58] I'm down to center model

[22:49:01] Oh, no

[22:49:04] I don't have potaspects, like

[22:49:06] Let this guy die earlier or something

[22:49:13] Oh, you're looking to spawn, bro.

[22:49:15] Oh, yeah.

[22:49:16] That is not very good.

[22:49:17] Defensive?

[22:49:19] That is good.

[22:49:20] By fire, a bit purged.

[22:49:44] I'll double again.

[22:49:46] I can knock it up, I think.

[22:49:47] Knocked cap early, not on me for one time.

[22:49:50] On me, I think.

[22:49:51] I'm not even slowing down.

[22:49:52] That's done.

[22:49:54] Weee!

[22:49:55] I forgot.

[22:49:58] This guy died again.

[22:49:59] I missed a shockwave.

[22:50:00] I don't have.

[22:50:01] It's on 50.

[22:50:02] I'm just going to ask some HB.

[22:50:08] You know what you're doing?

[22:50:09] Yeah, I'm bogging up.

[22:50:10] It is now.

[22:50:11] I'm sure you know what I'm doing.

[22:50:12] You know what you're doing now?

[22:50:14] Yeah, I know what that is.

[22:50:16] No?

[22:50:17] What was the cataclysm?

[22:50:19] Didn't you read it?

[22:50:20] It's a classic.

[22:50:23] I let you quit and wrap fully.

[22:50:26] I quit.

[22:50:27] That's it.

[22:50:28] The kill is at peace.

[22:50:30] I beg you.

[22:50:31] I cannot hit you.

[22:50:32] Ah, I'm trying bro.

[22:50:33] It's in stock.

[22:50:34] It's in stock.

[22:50:35] It's in stock.

[22:50:36] 10%

[22:50:39] I think they're dead

[22:50:41] They definitely need to kill this one

[22:50:54] Do you have any of us?

[22:50:55] Kill him?

[22:50:56] Nah, I just slow

[22:51:01] One slow and dream

[22:51:03] One coir

[22:51:05] Oh, it's dead

[22:51:06] All right, best

[22:51:08] Dude, this is terrible, you need to lock in now

[22:51:10] Focus

[22:51:11] Yeah, it's actually a time

[22:51:15] Holy f**k

[22:51:17] We have one, we have two

[22:51:19] It's blood, they can go on and do a pack for you.

[22:51:25] I'm mini-instructing.

[22:51:28] You're all up to me.

[22:51:30] I'm dying. I'm dying of a curse. I'm popping out of it.

[22:51:34] Oh...

[22:51:36] You're not popping out of spot as well. Fuck it.

[22:51:39] Send it on.

[22:51:41] Didn't even know you could get a pop of curse. That's illegal.

[22:51:46] I hate these mobs.

[22:51:49] I can go to prison.

[22:51:50] I can make sure we can.

[22:51:51] Oh, I mean, lighting here is nice, huh?

[22:51:54] Yeah.

[22:51:55] We can line

[22:52:00] All the small losers that end up destroying we drop the people

[22:52:06] They can break and somebody else fall long ago. Yeah, yeah, not yet. Yeah

[22:52:13] And now we can't line

[22:52:17] But you put your watch out shit on the line

[22:52:20] I'm just saying shit

[22:52:22] What, this one hit?

[22:52:23] Yeah, yeah

[22:52:24] Shitting there was very bad

[22:52:26] It's fine now

[22:52:32] I'm finding a different corner

[22:52:33] I think there's no problem now

[22:52:34] I think this guy doesn't do another cast

[22:52:37] Probably not

[22:52:40] This is gonna be kind of bad

[22:52:44] Maybe we'll just wait

[22:52:45] I'm just saying, okay then

[22:52:49] We're running all the way to fire again

[22:52:52] I'm sorry

[22:52:54] 25

[22:52:55] Maybe we don't want the 80 stacker for the stack

[22:52:59] I think we did it in the back there.

[22:53:06] Dude, that really backfired that week.

[22:53:21] Holy shit, you're smiling right now.

[22:53:24] I can see your smile all over here, bro.

[22:53:26] Dirty boy.

[22:53:27] How do you travel freely?

[22:53:30] You scared yourself.

[22:53:32] Dude, there must be a sakura.

[22:55:20] There's not even that much food in the pool.

[22:55:29] It should be the freestone to get through.

[22:55:42] I'm gonna ask you when we're going into Red again, in like 30 to 40 minutes to an hour, then we'll go into him as big as we can.

[22:56:36] So they went from 10% to just killing the boss. They're not crazy.

[22:56:47] Maybe they just had a good pull. Where are you going, son?

[22:57:04] I'm probably gonna do some delts to fill that vault as well.

[22:57:07] Okay, but invite the tank again then, then I can get...

[22:57:12] There we go.

[22:57:13] He had to leave.

[22:57:16] Yeah, but get the tank anyway. Red does fun.

[22:57:18] So we have news. Yeah, but it's not new to anyone in chat. There's two different kinds of news.

[22:58:38] Well, actually, I didn't know until I read chat and then somebody told me that liquid indeed has killed

[22:58:45] Congrats, Likrit. So good work going down. Yeah, or I watched the kill. I did too. Yeah. Yeah

[22:58:50] So really cool to see that they managed to kill a boss before their reset. It is really late for them

[22:58:55] So they definitely had some pressure to kill a boss and they managed to do so which is great

[22:58:59] they're gonna be seeing some of Queen Ancerwreck before their reset which is

[22:59:04] very likely gonna I don't want to say it but they're not gonna stream it. I mean

[22:59:10] they already went dark right? Yeah, they went dark immediately. I mean we see four

[22:59:15] pulls going up right so I think they're currently working on Queen Ancerwreck

[22:59:18] they did go dark for it of course makes total sense no one should be

[22:59:21] offering any hit there Echo would have done the exact same thing you're in

[22:59:23] the last couple of hours before your reset no reason to advertise that

[22:59:27] information to Echo who may not kill the Silkencourt today. Obviously a little bit of pressure on

[22:59:33] since Liquid has killed it. Echo would like to kill it as well and then Echo could potentially

[22:59:37] get some Queen Ancerok information as well. But congrats to Liquid, that's huge. It means that

[22:59:42] we don't have to worry about that rare occasion where you don't even see the end boss before

[22:59:47] the new reset. At least one guild will have seen Queen Ancerok. It doesn't mean Chat will

[22:59:51] unless Echo also kills Silkencourt which we hope they will. Currently doing Mythic Plus

[22:59:56] as they prepare for the day, rounding out those great vaults. And of course,

[22:59:59] Skrype, Roger, and Potter have been working for the past hour on

[23:00:01] raid planning and setting up exactly what they want to do, since the boss got changed

[23:00:04] and they're no longer going to be one tanking like they were for the latter half of yesterday.

[23:00:09] But big grats to Liquid. I do want to call out, we are still raising money for Games for Love

[23:00:14] and a couple of donations have come in, so I'm going to read those. And then

[23:00:17] I think you had other news. Yes, but read the donations first.

[23:00:20] We'll do this first. But hold your donations until after this news, after this.

[23:00:25] Tonka Wonka said in $10 saying Cataclysm rules love the race to world first and nice work

[23:00:30] Any thoughts? No, I have nothing to say about Cataclysm. I'm also thoughtless

[23:00:36] Templar Trace sent in $50. Hi all thanks for the production and work for the race to world first

[23:00:41] I appreciate you raising money for charity. We appreciate you donating money to charity

[23:00:46] We just sit here and say silly things and you guys are actually giving up your hard earned money to this

[23:00:51] wonderful cause for which we are extraordinarily grateful. We're currently at $21,505.69, an

[23:00:57] amazing amount raised, getting very close to that next charity goal, and about halfway

[23:01:01] to our overall goal of $40,000 raised. If we get to, shall we say, $22,500 raised in

[23:01:09] the next hour or two, is that a reasonable amount?

[23:01:11] I'm going to say...

[23:01:12] Or should we reduce it? It is the morning shift.

[23:01:15] No, $22,000 I think is good.

[23:01:17] Okay, so if you guys get $495, then she hasn't told me what's going to happen.

[23:01:21] happen. Yeah he has no idea. I just told production my idea so I do want to I do

[23:01:27] need to give credit here to Johnny Wanlang because that's his idea and that's

[23:01:31] what he does sometimes with my special streams whenever I have them on my

[23:01:34] stream and it is something called a mode scavenger hunt. The way this game

[23:01:40] works is that we will not be seeing the broadcast and production will come up

[23:01:46] with certain things that are here in this room or around this area, and they will overlay

[23:01:54] them on stream for the viewers to see. So for example it would be like a stream deck.

[23:02:00] Plus a stream deck, plus something, plus something, plus something.

[23:02:02] Or one of the pictures of Mike and I eating disgusting food.

[23:02:04] Yes, and then since we don't see what the words are or what the items are that we

[23:02:08] need to gather, that we need to scavenge, the chat will have to tell us, but through

[23:02:14] emotes only.

[23:02:15] So they send an emote in order to tell us that the item is the Algarve Shredeck.

[23:02:18] Yeah, and then we can go back and forth and then I can be like, okay, what's the first

[23:02:25] thing?

[23:02:26] And then they'll put some emotes.

[23:02:27] And I'm like, okay, is it this?

[23:02:28] Is it blue?

[23:02:29] And then they can go back and forth.

[23:02:31] And then we have to gather the items, put them on the table or whatever, and then

[23:02:36] at some point we'll get revealed the answers and we'll know if we were correct or

[23:02:40] not.

[23:02:41] Okay.

[23:02:42] And there should be some stakes.

[23:02:43] like if we get the items correct or incorrect I'm not sure if chat gets

[23:02:47] something if we get something you know like I haven't figured that one out

[23:02:50] that's what you know that's on me I mean the the most obvious answer is that if

[23:02:54] chat does a good job of guiding us through this because it's entirely on

[23:02:57] them yeah obviously we are smart enough to figure out what they're

[23:03:00] communicating of course communicate it well chat could get rewarded with an

[23:03:04] you know protect perhaps a bountiful delve maybe a two-prise delve from

[23:03:10] Roger's treasure trove something like that or more I'm not suggesting an actual

[23:03:14] yeah I'm not offering we are actually gonna send you off to do about the

[23:03:18] devil I'm saying we could delve into Roger's treasure trove we're gonna have

[23:03:22] to see about to get a prize but then we'll see a production agrees with us

[23:03:25] there are here we could give away okay they're planning a price planning a

[23:03:30] price but you know when when I was in the other room yeah medic said just do

[23:03:34] a push-up contest I was thinking about the same thing yeah but I mean that's

[23:03:39] But now chat can be involved and I'm gonna lose a push-up contest though. I'm not sure you would

[23:03:44] Well, maybe not. Maybe we should do a push-up contest. We should do both

[23:03:50] Are we doing it all right, so we're gonna have chat on the iPad so that we can see their emotes as we do this scavenger hunt

[23:03:58] Or are you just doing it regardless of the goal? Wow, I thought we are doing a goal, but not

[23:04:03] No, I mean, you know what?

[23:04:05] They've already raised money.

[23:04:07] Let's do the pushups at 22,000.

[23:04:09] At 22,000 we will pushup goal.

[23:04:11] They will just do the scavenger hunt now because they're just doing it with the plus anyway and this is more fun.

[23:04:14] Let's go for it.

[23:04:15] Okay, so we can no longer see the broadcast.

[23:04:17] You have the chat here.

[23:04:18] I have the chat.

[23:04:19] We can share it.

[23:04:20] And we don't see the broadcast.

[23:04:21] But they see us just like normal.

[23:04:22] Yes, they see us normally.

[23:04:23] I can't take off my socks.

[23:04:25] The first thing, as soon as the catmatchers are...

[23:04:28] They're so uncomfortable.

[23:04:30] How is it unsanitary?

[23:04:32] My elbows are out right now.

[23:04:34] What?

[23:04:35] Guys, I'm telling you, as soon as the camera is off,

[23:04:37] socks are flying.

[23:04:38] That's true.

[23:04:39] Every time.

[23:04:44] All right, all right.

[23:04:45] So we see chat.

[23:04:46] They're currently saying, Zali Toes.

[23:04:48] It needs to be put in E mode only mode.

[23:04:50] Yeah, it is now E mode only mode.

[23:04:53] E mode only.

[23:04:53] And I guess we see some smiling faces.

[23:04:56] Smiling face.

[23:04:57] OK, that's not helping us at all.

[23:04:59] OK, we have Doritos, not like this.

[23:05:02] Smiling.

[23:05:02] wipe eyes. Oh, you guys, you need to help us here. We need a

[23:05:06] smiley face. Is it a smile? Is it like a selfie? Okay, you

[23:05:12] guys need to be able in a way to reveal to us what you're

[23:05:16] seeing. You need to give us clues through emotes. Yeah, whatever

[23:05:22] this is. You guys are seeing stuff on the screen right now

[23:05:24] that we cannot see. Camera tours suggests to me that we're

[23:05:27] looking at a picture. Yeah, either a picture because I think

[23:05:30] the smiley face was actually referring to like a

[23:05:32] Yeah, yeah, so I think it's a picture. We just don't know which one. Okay, which person is it which I see a lot of like

[23:05:38] Negara W's is it my selfie?

[23:05:41] Is it a girl a selfie? It's behind you guys

[23:05:47] Yes, all right victory

[23:05:49] We need to get it which is like somehow your privilege to have the only normal professional looking e-sports selfie

[23:05:56] Yeah, I don't understand why she gets to look good and I get to be drinking pizza milk

[23:06:02] It was horrendous. It was one of the worst things I've ever done.

[23:06:07] Wow. Okay next. Come on we need hurry up.

[23:06:11] Go go go go go. We need more. Okay what's the next one?

[23:06:15] Um hammer. Okay so StarForge Systems. Oh that makes a lot of sense.

[23:06:20] Because it's a hammer. Wow. Easy for me. That's obviously a hammer.

[23:06:25] What's next? What's next? Go go go go go.

[23:06:27] You're doing a great job. This is amazing.

[23:06:29] Good job. Good job. We need to get the prizes.

[23:06:31] cheese. Cheese. Something about

[23:06:38] rats. So, it's clearly Mike.

[23:06:40] That's what he means. I'm

[23:06:42] not thinking. This is her.

[23:06:46] Uh, stinky rat cheese. Where's

[23:06:48] the picture of Mike? I think

[23:06:49] it's the middle one. It's

[23:06:51] eating. Is he a rat? He

[23:06:56] looks like it's not that. Um

[23:06:59] I'm going to pretend cheese plant?

[23:07:02] Oh it is a plant.

[23:07:03] Oh that plant?

[23:07:04] Which one?

[23:07:05] Any of them.

[23:07:06] Just a plant.

[23:07:07] How did you get plant?

[23:07:08] Well the Christmas tree and this one plant.

[23:07:11] Cheese.

[23:07:12] Whoever put cheese in there is not helping.

[23:07:15] Okay next.

[23:07:16] I think production didn't realize how good Chad is going to be at this.

[23:07:20] They took some easy words.

[23:07:23] We have more cheese.

[23:07:25] I'm going to pretend that.

[23:07:26] I assume that means nothing.

[23:07:28] Dogs and it's possible. There's like multiple words and they're doing different ones

[23:07:32] You know like they're not all agreeing on which words are currently showing it's also possible of trolling us

[23:07:37] No, they would never

[23:07:39] Okay, it is still possible. It's like cheese burritos and rats and stuff. I see and then some kind of

[23:07:45] Is it the not Masu?

[23:07:49] That's not a rat. It's a catfish. Well, is it this one?

[23:07:53] Okay, okay

[23:07:56] Yeah, good try I guess

[23:07:58] Um, they're just linking this weird, fuzzy creature.

[23:08:04] Oh, what is, yeah, it's like a, it's like a, I don't know what that is, and smiley faces.

[23:08:11] I also don't know what it is either, is it a rat?

[23:08:13] There's a one eye patched smiley face.

[23:08:15] One eye patched smiley face.

[23:08:18] We need more guys, we need more.

[23:08:19] What is this, this is like a mouse, right?

[23:08:21] I think that's a mouse.

[23:08:22] Oh, it's a mouse, it's literally, it's like, oh, the Corsair mouse.

[23:08:27] Oh, that's good chat.

[23:08:30] That's why the cheese.

[23:08:31] That's why the cheese.

[23:08:32] Yeah.

[23:08:33] Steve, the thing is, we risked to go out of the cheese

[23:08:34] because they did the cheese for the previous one too.

[23:08:37] Ah.

[23:08:37] That makes sense.

[23:08:38] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[23:08:38] All right, one more.

[23:08:39] Are we doing another?

[23:08:41] Water.

[23:08:42] Notes.

[23:08:43] Boi.

[23:08:43] Genji.

[23:08:44] Huh?

[23:08:45] Crab, Sanyas.

[23:08:46] Spider team.

[23:08:48] Spiders.

[23:08:48] Crab.

[23:08:49] Spiders.

[23:08:50] Crab.

[23:08:51] Team Crab has a crown.

[23:08:54] Lots of team crabs coming up.

[23:08:57] Team Crab or T... So it's Crabs, it's not Spider.

[23:09:00] I mean, see some people are saying Spider.

[23:09:02] But most people are saying Crab.

[23:09:03] Mostly Crab.

[23:09:04] Yeah.

[23:09:05] And a picture.

[23:09:06] Is it just the envelope?

[23:09:08] Is it the envelope?

[23:09:10] Is it the envelope?

[23:09:11] Yeah.

[23:09:12] Okay, so something Team Crab...

[23:09:13] Could be a display.

[23:09:14] It could be a display.

[23:09:15] Yeah, Crab's rule on the display.

[23:09:17] It is!

[23:09:18] Yeah, Crab's rule on the display.

[23:09:20] Very nice.

[23:09:21] I can't believe some people put the Spider.

[23:09:23] I told you!

[23:09:24] Some of them are trolling it.

[23:09:25] They're actually inting.

[23:09:26] believe it yeah you guys are in a key with the wrong spec

[23:09:31] all right um that's a toilet I don't believe that is in the field yeah I

[23:09:39] think it's you let's um twitch robot no spiders you know what is this mode or

[23:09:50] twitch yeah it's a twitchy mouth it's still like a twitch something is it um

[23:09:53] Um, is it something related to streaming like the, uh, stream stream deck?

[23:09:59] Is it the stream deck?

[23:10:02] Let's go.

[23:10:03] Okay.

[23:10:03] Now, oh, which one?

[23:10:04] One of them is on the left and one of them is on the right.

[23:10:07] No.

[23:10:08] Which stream deck?

[23:10:12] Okay.

[23:10:13] So we have the, there's actually several stream decks.

[23:10:17] There's one up there.

[23:10:18] Oh yeah.

[23:10:18] We have the stream deck plus.

[23:10:21] Okay.

[23:10:21] Which stream deck is the chat?

[23:10:23] The white one because it's the toilet.

[23:10:25] You're looking at your toilets.

[23:10:27] Is that the white one?

[23:10:28] Oh my gosh!

[23:10:29] Oh my gosh!

[23:10:30] Oh my gosh!

[23:10:31] Okay, one more production is that, one more, which is it?

[23:10:38] For the prize.

[23:10:39] Eggs.

[23:10:40] Eggs.

[23:10:41] Oh, eggs.

[23:10:42] Eggs.

[23:10:43] I didn't have any eggs in here.

[23:10:45] I didn't have one bird head.

[23:10:48] Birds lay eggs.

[23:10:49] That's kind of true.

[23:10:52] Oh!

[23:10:53] Team Crab.

[23:10:54] Oh!

[23:10:55] Team Spider.

[23:10:56] Now we have the envelope, I think.

[23:10:58] There we go, yes.

[23:11:01] And now we just have to figure out which one.

[23:11:04] And Kat's going to give us a problem here.

[23:11:06] I think maybe we can just shoot, yeah, let's have a poll.

[23:11:10] Oh, because they're going to get one of the envelopes.

[23:11:13] All right, good job.

[23:11:15] So a poll going up crab versus spiders.

[23:11:17] You can't vote by emoting.

[23:11:19] You have to actually go on top and vote for crab versus spiders.

[23:11:22] You can use them now.

[23:11:23] Congratulations, Kat.

[23:11:24] You did it.

[23:11:25] Toilet for the white

[23:11:32] We have lots of prizes to give out from our phenomenal sponsors

[23:11:36] Including stream decks and Corsair mice and you know merch from our store

[23:11:44] Those are useful so voting on team crab versus spider

[23:11:48] What do we have so far team spider is as always winning? We're both team spider, aren't we?

[23:11:53] I am too. I think yeah, I am but that shirt is we're gonna get tattooed a spider if we reached if they reach $40,000 raised

[23:12:00] I'm going to get a spider tattooed somewhere you as well and medic is getting a crab tattooed on his arm to be part of a nautical themed

[23:12:09] Sleeve will be the third tattoo that I have a my body that is designed by Sam

[23:12:15] Really? Yeah, what are the other two?

[23:12:17] Logos that's our mate. Oh, I didn't know that that's really cool

[23:12:23] That's a weird thing, but yeah, I mean it's where's the where's the spider gonna go?

[23:12:26] I don't know. I haven't thought about it yet. Maybe in my ankle somewhere. Yeah, I was thinking small on my back. Oh

[23:12:34] Yeah

[23:12:39] You can have multiple spotters like okay

[23:12:41] So Sam Sam just said that it would be fun for Katie to have something to look at what I've been told that it can't be

[23:12:48] Visible oh

[23:12:50] Because she doesn't want to see a spider

[23:12:54] I was gonna say in intimate moments, but yeah, while she's pegging me the works to think Sam

[23:13:05] We try to keep it PG3 and then we have production manner here is talking about Peggy

[23:13:15] What

[23:13:17] To be clear chat Sam has no knowledge one way or the other about what activities Katie and I may or may not engage in

[23:13:23] Are you sure?

[23:13:26] But I was specifically told by her that it cannot be visible during any like intimate moments,

[23:13:31] which is why I suggest it's small impact.

[23:13:32] Well a lot of things are visible during intimate moments, so I'm like...

[23:13:35] It depends, it's right on position and...

[23:13:38] Moving on!

[23:13:39] Spider-One!

[23:13:40] Do you want to draw or shall I draw?

[23:13:44] You're holding, I'll draw.

[23:13:45] The thing is, yeah, because the last time I drew like an epic the war within.

[23:13:49] Oh that's awesome.

[23:13:50] And I kind of don't want to ruin it now by drawing something like much worse

[23:13:54] All right, and what are you suggesting is the bad prize in the pet? I hate I don't care about me. Yeah, so some people

[23:14:01] Yes, in fact Roger like Roger Brown loves World of Warcraft

[23:14:06] Owens every single one of them. Have you heard the story? I didn't know that about Roger. That's crazy. Yeah, Roger's a collector

[23:14:13] He's a lifelong player of wow. He's playing at the beginning. He's still got epics

[23:14:17] It's like his first epics ever still in his bank. He owns all of his collectors out of every mount every pet

[23:14:22] A couple of years ago. He wanted to get one of the last pets he didn't have which was the pet from the collectors edition of Diablo 3

[23:14:29] Oh, okay

[23:14:30] Found someone selling it for a few hundred dollars in Canada, but didn't want to pay shipping so he had it shipped to my house

[23:14:36] So that I could take out the card with a

[23:14:38] And read him the code so he could get the Diablo 3 pet in game that

[23:14:43] That's been sat in my house for like three years until I brought it to him this race world first and now he has the

[23:14:49] Collected Edition, but he bought the entire Collected Edition just for the Wild Pet.

[23:14:53] Oh wow, that's crazy, so he really is a collector.

[23:14:55] So shame on you because the Justin Pets aren't an amazing prize.

[23:14:58] I'm so sorry, for me it's not that bad.

[23:15:00] We're yonking one of these from Roger's own Dell, his own loot.

[23:15:04] Okay, I think we used to have one of these to show off.

[23:15:08] Now it has to be a pet.

[23:15:09] Yeah.

[23:15:10] Otherwise I'm gonna be disappointed.

[23:15:13] Yeah, I mean, I wanted to get the prize from our merch store, the extra extra large mouse pad.

[23:15:20] Oh, nice. That's a nice prize. I really want that extra extra large one. Like they are so nice.

[23:15:27] They are very nice. Like I actually would want, yeah, I want the whole desk to be covered. Yeah,

[23:15:32] it's a it's a lovely price. So, I clamp spider in the chat one time so you don't get timed out

[23:15:37] for multiple entries, one entry gets you in, multiple entries gets you nothing.

[23:15:39] one time X kind of spider you'll be entered in the prize make sure your

[23:15:43] deems are open because someone will reach out to you to give it to you if you win

[23:15:47] that is a that is a phenomenal prize everyone else also check out the merch

[23:15:50] store there's a lot of really great stuff in there they put a picture of me

[23:15:53] on the merch store the other day yeah with the teams okay picture because

[23:16:06] Kylo was taking pictures they needed new headshots for me because for the

[23:16:09] past several events. They've been using a picture of me from a year ago, pre-beared, and they need some updated pictures, because otherwise people don't recognize me.

[23:16:18] Yeah.

[23:16:19] It's a little bit different.

[23:16:20] We did also reach our Porsche Up Challenge, which we're going to have to go through some of it.

[23:16:23] Oh yeah!

[23:16:24] But since we did reach it, there's a lot of donations that came through, so let me read through some of them.

[23:16:29] Thank you so much everybody for donating for such a good cause, for our Games for Love.

[23:16:34] We do have a $50 donation by TemplarTrace and they're saying hi all thanks for all the

[23:16:40] production and work for the raceable first.

[23:16:42] I also appreciate you raising money for charity.

[23:16:45] Thank you very much for donating that is so nice of you.

[23:16:47] We appreciate it that it's phenomenal.

[23:16:49] You guys have raised so much money for Games for Love which is an amazing cause, well-deserving

[23:16:54] of your generosity.

[23:16:55] Then we have a $50 donation by Anonymous.

[23:16:57] No comment.

[23:16:58] Just dropping the $50.

[23:16:59] You get that.

[23:17:00] Thank you so, so much.

[23:17:01] Then we have a $450 donation by Anonymous and to say pushups, at least 10 each.

[23:17:07] Go, go, go.

[23:17:08] I don't know.

[23:17:08] I'd never do pushups.

[23:17:10] I don't remember the last time I've done pushups.

[23:17:12] So I might get one.

[23:17:13] I have no idea.

[23:17:14] I also haven't done pushups in a while, but I recently started like incorporating them.

[23:17:18] It's not too long ago, but they are difficult.

[23:17:21] They're very hard.

[23:17:22] Yeah.

[23:17:22] Well, my 12 year old remembers them being hard.

[23:17:24] I haven't done them in very long time.

[23:17:27] And then we have another $45 donation by Anonymous and to say thanks to everyone

[23:17:31] involved for hosting such a great event and raising money for an amazing cost. Thank you

[23:17:35] so so much for all the non-restimations. Thank you.

[23:17:37] That is incredibly kind. Do you think you can do 10?

[23:17:41] No.

[23:17:42] Well, what does the winner get?

[23:17:44] I assume this is something that practice helps and I haven't done pushups in God knows

[23:17:49] how long.

[23:17:50] Where are we doing these pushups for the camera to actually pick up?

[23:17:54] I guess we could like move this table and then do it on the carpet.

[23:17:57] Oh yeah, that would make sense.

[23:17:59] We're going to take turns, you do everything you can and I know as many as I can that way.

[23:18:04] That way we're not like taking up all the room.

[23:18:05] But then the second person has more motivation to beat the number the first person did.

[23:18:09] That's true.

[23:18:10] Yeah, there's a little bit of advantage that the first person going as always disadvantaged.

[23:18:17] The second person can copy strategy, watch form, you know, go no deeper than the first

[23:18:21] person did.

[23:18:22] Exactly.

[23:18:23] Do we have a form police as well here?

[23:18:26] We should have form police.

[23:18:27] Are we touching chest to floor?

[23:18:29] Like all the way down?

[23:18:30] Oh no, that's not gonna happen.

[23:18:31] I think we should.

[23:18:32] Chest to floor?

[23:18:33] Isn't that how you do push-ups?

[23:18:34] I don't know.

[23:18:36] That is not...

[23:18:41] What's the point of the exercise if you're not going through the full range of motion?

[23:18:44] Well, you go through the...

[23:18:45] But touching, like, the floor...

[23:18:47] The deeper you go, the more stretch you get on the chest,

[23:18:49] which is significantly better.

[23:18:51] But then, that's actually easier.

[23:18:52] What's easier?

[23:18:53] Because you're leaving your weight on the...

[23:18:54] Like, you can literally, like, drop yourself on the floor without actually...

[23:18:57] Don't rest you just push yeah, but like then you only have to push yourself if you only go through part of the range of motion

[23:19:02] That's no, but catching the floor is easier because of you

[23:19:07] How when you do that lift you also not dropping the weight on the floor all the way you do reset the deadlift at the end of the

[23:19:12] At the end of the lift just and just like with the floor you take all you take the bench press all the way to the chest

[23:19:17] Yeah, but you're not resting it on your tracks you go to the floor, but you don't rest

[23:19:22] What's the point of doing?

[23:19:27] Okay, well, I don't care how deep we go,

[23:19:28] I just want us to go the same depth.

[23:19:30] I don't have chat, you have chat.

[23:19:32] I just don't understand the point of an exercise

[23:19:33] if you're not going through the fore-range motion,

[23:19:34] you're not getting the muscles stretched.

[23:19:37] Oh, here's a tutorial.

[23:19:38] All right, we'll copy this to him.

[23:19:40] So he sticks his butt way up,

[23:19:41] and then where the shoulder goes

[23:19:43] in front of the fingertips or beyond,

[23:19:45] and not super far back,

[23:19:47] where we have this bigger obtuse angle here

[23:19:50] between the hand and the arm bone.

[23:19:52] You want to actually be here,

[23:19:53] it's gonna be a little bit less than 90 degrees

[23:19:56] when you look at the angle between the two.

[23:19:57] I think he's demonstrating what not to do first.

[23:19:59] We want you to go kind of straight up and down angle.

[23:20:01] I think it should be like that.

[23:20:04] It's going to affect whether or not

[23:20:05] you can do a push-up.

[23:20:06] For your head and neck position,

[23:20:08] you don't want to be trooping your head down like this.

[23:20:11] Yeah, okay, head straight.

[23:20:13] Looking up like this, unintentionally,

[23:20:15] which I'll get to later.

[23:20:16] It's crazy how easy it seems to have a straight body.

[23:20:20] It's like, duh, just be straight.

[23:20:22] And then you think you are.

[23:20:23] I've never thought I was, I've known all along I'm not straight.

[23:20:32] I want to see one actual push to see how deep it goes, that's what's important.

[23:20:36] What is the depth to which we're going?

[23:20:38] Is this all just what not to do?

[23:20:40] I think you'll notice like a new dudo pushup that's like how far you go.

[23:20:45] Well it varies, I think I could do a pushup all the way to the ground and that would

[23:20:48] be a more beneficial form than just stopping halfway.

[23:20:50] Loose off halfway. I don't know how far to go

[23:20:54] He went real deep that was that was chest to floor but barely not touching also if you like it's it's not good for you

[23:21:00] For your arms actually that's actually more

[23:21:03] You can have some weird angle

[23:21:07] He's going all the way to floor he's not resting, but he's going to

[23:21:12] I was right. He's not touching it though. Look the shirt is touching. He's going to the floor that is saying now

[23:21:22] He's planting his forehead on it

[23:21:25] Yeah

[23:21:27] Okay, so these are the easier knee push ups. Yeah, this is for if you're working your way

[23:21:34] Okay

[23:21:36] What does the winner gets are we just doing it here or are we moving the table? I think we can

[23:21:43] Okay, I'm gonna keep talking while they're oh my god. I was like oh it's gonna reveal all of the stuff that we have under the table

[23:21:51] But thankfully the camera can't see

[23:21:55] All right, we do we just have this place on our table so nothing crazy going on there

[23:22:01] All right, so we're doing the thing where one goes first

[23:22:05] Okay, are you

[23:22:09] Should we do I

[23:22:11] I would go first but after that conversation I'm not trusting you to go through the full range of motion

[23:22:15] I want to see how deep you go before I go because I would go all the way to the floor

[23:22:19] But I'm just going to do whatever you are doing. Okay, okay, so we're doing full range of motion and I'll go first. Yes. I'm predicting

[23:22:27] two

[23:22:32] All right, let's see. Yeah, this just looks fun to me

[23:22:39] You are fairly long

[23:22:41] You can go diagonal if you feel like you need more space, all right

[23:22:47] And one two three

[23:22:52] four five

[23:22:54] come down six

[23:22:58] eight

[23:22:59] nine

[23:23:01] ten

[23:23:02] eleven

[23:23:04] So you're getting real tired. I don't know about this one. I'm not sure we can do one more. I'd be I think you should stop now

[23:23:11] 15

[23:23:14] 17 18

[23:23:19] 19 okay one more you can do one more and

[23:23:26] Okay

[23:23:29] Okay, okay, that was funny. I'm gonna have to

[23:23:33] He's that too

[23:24:00] I was being lied to

[23:24:07] to you guys I cannot do 20 push ups I don't know okay I'm still gonna have this but I'm

[23:24:19] gonna have to disappoint you there's no way I can do 21 push ups all right we're

[23:24:26] gonna cheer from the girl now thank you I'm a little tired this is the

[23:24:37] advantage of going second now she's like she knows how much she has to do

[23:24:40] She wants to do some warm-ups. This is one of the most unorthodox warm-ups I've ever seen.

[23:24:47] I'm not sure what involvement the hip flexibility has in the push-up.

[23:24:54] Alright, very good. We're going.

[23:25:01] Yeah, take the watch off maybe so it doesn't hurt your wrist.

[23:25:04] I think she prepares assuming the position.

[23:25:11] Straight back. Excellent form.

[23:25:14] And we go, one, what is that range of motion, two, three, four-ish, five, six, we're doing

[23:25:25] half reps, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,

[23:25:41] Seventeen. Seventeen and a quarter. Seventeen and a half. Eighteen. It's an amazing performance going to nineteen.

[23:25:54] Okay, now we have to divide them in two because you did exactly what I predicted. You did half reps all the way through.

[23:26:00] But it was an amazing performance. A applause for Nagura who is extraordinarily fit. I think that was a very impressive performance.

[23:26:09] You did really, really good.

[23:26:16] Your form left something to be desired.

[23:26:19] But you went at it with energy and will.

[23:26:22] I tried.

[23:26:23] I'm sorry.

[23:26:24] Why do you apologize?

[23:26:25] You did really good.

[23:26:26] But you did better.

[23:26:27] That is true.

[23:26:28] That's the problem.

[23:26:29] What do you mean?

[23:26:30] It was a competition.

[23:26:31] It was so funny.

[23:26:32] And I lost.

[23:26:33] Earlier when I said we should do a push and crunch.

[23:26:34] She's like, I don't think we should.

[23:26:35] You'll win.

[23:26:36] I say, I don't know how many I can do.

[23:26:37] She said, oh, I'm sorry.

[23:26:38] I'm sorry.

[23:26:39] I'm sorry.

[23:26:40] I'm sorry.

[23:26:41] I don't know how many I can do. She said, okay, maybe we're good.

[23:26:45] Victory is the best for you.

[23:26:51] Hope that you enjoyed that. Thank you for raising that extra $500 for Games for Love.

[23:26:56] That makes it all worth it. Plus, you know, we got a little bit of chest and chest work out.

[23:27:00] Yeah, I mean, don't have to go to do many more today.

[23:27:03] In fact, it is chest day.

[23:27:04] It's time for your second set.

[23:27:09] You're okay.

[23:27:10] We're actually doing our workout on Rockhouse there.

[23:27:14] We're going to get some water, a drink, maybe wipe some sweat off our forehead.

[23:27:20] We're going to throw two comms for a little break.

[23:27:22] Thank you guys so much for the donations and for hanging out this morning.

[23:27:24] We appreciate all of you.

[23:27:25] Don't go away.

[23:27:26] You can just do for you until we should do sevens or if you don't need to.

[23:29:07] It depends on what you want more.

[23:29:09] You want to do little tens at the same time.

[23:29:15] How many keys do you need to get the extra buck?

[23:29:17] What did it say, sorry?

[23:29:20] How many extra keys do you need to get the extra buck?

[23:29:23] High, high level?

[23:29:24] I think it's at level one.

[23:29:25] Let's see.

[23:29:26] One more level 10?

[23:29:27] Yeah, I think so.

[23:29:30] Yeah, one more, let's see one more.

[23:29:32] We do one more level 10, Arakara.

[23:29:34] I can win 9 as well, we did 9 now, so I can hold this buck then.

[23:29:38] Great.

[23:29:40] Oh, so you get third option from one more level 9 on us?

[23:29:43] No, a second option.

[23:29:44] From 11-9.

[23:29:46] That's about 6, like, 19, so it's 6-3.

[23:29:49] I lose 2 out of 11.

[23:29:51] I'm just getting close enough to the end of the world.

[23:29:54] Yeah, I'm just, I mean, I'm kind of looking nice, like, 1-2-3.

[23:29:57] I'm not sure what kind of stuff that's really worth it.

[23:29:59] Nah, I'm not even sure.

[23:30:00] Right this, right this pretty hot.

[23:30:02] The single target, I think it's very controllable,

[23:30:07] if you look more single target.

[23:30:08] But I really like that, like, 1-2-3, and I'm like...

[23:30:10] There are, uh, 40 flings, they come for.

[23:30:36] Yeah, we need to talk some balls

[23:30:38] I love where it's not right

[23:30:40] Oh, this is for seeding

[23:30:42] I like it close in all by

[23:30:48] I think it's good for her as well

[23:30:50] That's her tank, it's all of this

[23:31:02] Actually, we have a black ticker

[23:31:06] We can swap this to a cloak

[23:31:08] Oh my god

[23:31:14] He's dying, bro, holy

[23:31:16] What's fucking hers, bro?

[23:31:18] Yup

[23:31:20] I think all black tickers are being sold in those

[23:31:22] It's such a great idea

[23:31:29] I mean, should be clear now before this...

[23:31:34] I mean, you just can't have healing up so when the dark pulls up, that's when the tank should stop.

[23:31:47] Otherwise you can't, hopefully.

[23:31:49] On the next wave, it's gonna be a lot to stop if you don't do it.

[23:31:54] I think it's next, this one's into AoE.

[23:32:01] Yeah, we're getting another wave, actually.

[23:32:03] I saw that.

[23:32:05] I have half a pot still.

[23:32:06] Half a pot still for the big.

[23:32:08] I have half a stone again.

[23:32:10] I don't think I need to...

[23:32:12] You can take some

[23:32:13] Bang

[23:32:14] I'll take two and a half pots

[23:32:16] What a fucking beast

[23:32:23] Oh fucking Barack man

[23:32:28] Barack?

[23:32:30] Yeah

[23:32:30] Oh, alright

[23:32:32] Here, yeah

[23:32:35] Hey, what the

[23:32:36] Oh for this fight

[23:32:38] That's saucy

[23:32:44] I don't need that one

[23:32:45] I don't wanna say

[23:32:48] What?

[23:32:50] I don't recommend anything like that

[23:33:04] Right, that's a different, that's like, special

[23:33:06] Oh

[23:33:07] I don't understand.

[23:33:09] Where is that one?

[23:33:11] Right, it's a stack up.

[23:33:12] Yeah, it's a damage.

[23:33:14] Right to the other side.

[23:33:16] It's a stack up.

[23:33:19] Guys, I'm in here.

[23:33:20] I'm in the back and you guys are not good.

[23:33:24] You're not good?

[23:33:25] Yeah, let me...

[23:33:27] You fight me in the front door, right?

[23:33:37] I'm dead for beast.

[23:33:40] I'm in this gas cannon right now.

[23:33:52] Oh, shit.

[23:33:53] Oh, Iro?

[23:33:54] Yeah.

[23:33:55] I'm guessing so much, bro.

[23:33:56] I don't know.

[23:33:57] I don't make it completely brick

[23:33:59] Now I think it's gonna get further guest

[23:34:01] Yeah, it's the prototype version

[23:34:03] I told you

[23:34:05] Could we now do?

[23:34:07] Yeah, this post is crazy

[23:34:17] Yeah, this post is...

[23:34:19] Right

[23:34:21] Can we just stack up a little?

[23:34:23] All mechanics do infinite damage

[23:34:25] We don't need to left and then...

[23:34:27] Like we always go to the left by the discount

[23:34:29] Any Orbers?

[23:34:31] Ah, sorry

[23:34:33] Sometimes we overlap the dots and now we get this route.

[23:34:45] Orbs, okay okay okay okay.

[23:34:47] AWE and then you just go one shot.

[23:34:50] And now it's...

[23:34:52] What is it now?

[23:34:54] Is it just big AWE? Orbs in the AWE?

[23:34:56] Yeah, Defensive.

[23:34:58] Yeah.

[23:35:00] what a beast

[23:35:02] what does that work or not?

[23:35:04] yeah orbs care

[23:35:06] oh wow here i didn't care

[23:35:08] oh you can even dole it

[23:35:10] nice tank orb?

[23:35:12] even dole it again

[23:35:14] hello

[23:35:16] minie all done

[23:35:18] sorry

[23:35:20] yeah it's fine, sweet, that was a good reason

[23:35:22] it's fine, we now know

[23:35:24] it's good to run around with a tank kit

[23:35:26] i think

[23:35:28] I'm going to move orbs

[23:35:33] I can't predict this boss

[23:35:38] This boss is a small boss

[23:35:41] I can start a week for me as well exactly

[23:35:43] And when we did it, we got the orbs orbs orbs orbs

[23:35:46] I'll take it later, and we'll just go one shot

[23:35:49] Okay it's a dot into a wii, big damage, defences

[23:35:53] I've not been cloaking orbs

[23:35:55] Orbs?

[23:35:56] I actually mc'd

[23:35:57] That's fine

[23:36:01] Orbs just go down

[23:36:06] Now it's the tank thing again

[23:36:07] Orbs in the tank

[23:36:08] I don't make sure you kill all of them

[23:36:12] Yeah, it's fine

[23:36:20] Oh, no

[23:36:21] Are they going to help me?

[23:36:23] Yeah, I popped every single cooldown

[23:36:24] because I wasn't sure how much I was going to do

[23:36:27] If my fake one is in the orb

[23:36:30] League down

[23:36:31] Shooting hard

[23:36:33] Kill them

[23:36:33] Ah, it's...

[23:36:34] Whoa, don't...

[23:36:35] We got the Hound

[23:36:36] Like, we plus...

[23:36:37] This key is midi-fade, right?

[23:36:40] But this was actually a surprisingly set, so it's...

[23:36:42] Hold on.

[23:36:43] I got a diamond max out, Grace.

[23:36:45] Okay, yes.

[23:36:46] Oh, that's an outro, then, can you hear it, bro?

[23:36:49] Uh, I'm gonna take it for a...

[23:36:51] You can hear it.

[23:36:53] It didn't look like a very good hill to set.

[23:36:55] I mean, this is really what I used this whole time, Grace, yeah.

[23:36:58] I mean, you can hear it, if you want it.

[23:37:00] I mean, no, I'm using mana, then.

[23:37:02] Yeah, you have the mana, then, Grace, can you hear it?

[23:37:04] Okay.

[23:37:05] Uh, I go to bot lane.

[23:37:07] I'm doing a hopeful shot.

[23:37:09] Where is this thing in?

[23:37:15] Bottom left, right or something.

[23:37:25] I think it's not so constricted.

[23:37:27] Which one is the one that's the off-shifter?

[23:37:30] Armast.

[23:37:32] Armast is okay. Really nice thing.

[23:37:36] In pocket the ring, send him for him. Omega bastard one.

[23:37:39] Yeah, it's left in storage.

[23:37:41] I see.

[23:37:43] You also save it for the saxophone.

[23:37:46] Yeah.

[23:37:48] I don't see reasons to pop it on my game of Wings, maybe it is a playbook, I don't like it, it gives us, let's have massive Wings at some point.

[23:37:59] The pack is there bro. Where is it?

[23:39:24] Where do you get it this guy?

[23:39:26] Sort of, 6-18.

[23:39:29] I'm 6-12 bro.

[23:39:33] I don't know, it's the last one.

[23:39:35] The start for both was pretty big.

[23:39:41] How much was it?

[23:39:43] I mean, I don't know the exact percent, but it was both by 6% the last start for.

[23:39:49] I don't know what percent gain that is.

[23:39:54] Depends on the sim, I guess.

[23:39:57] Oh, I saw many bosses, I thought it was this.

[23:40:09] I guess I'm wrong.

[23:40:11] Bro, now you can get too many bosses in the same maze. That was never the case before, no?

[23:40:16] really? yeah. are you really? except for like double frog? yeah yeah I played frog and some other shit that's the first time I've heard about it

[23:40:26] I think I did like turn this thing and then I heard it. yeah I heard it only once

[23:40:32] so I actually have to check then if I see one already

[23:40:37] I'm checking I'm checking what the fuck is that bro? where does that get from?

[23:40:55] He said too many bosses, yeah?

[23:40:57] There you go.

[23:40:59] Not bad.

[23:41:00] They're looting trinkets, bro, so...

[23:41:26] I'm gonna get up for this.

[23:41:29] This one.

[23:41:30] Calm down, bro.

[23:42:09] I'm gonna set the boss to one, bro.

[23:44:00] Okay, I set the boss here.

[23:44:04] I will.

[23:44:07] I'm making sure that... I'm making sure that...

[23:44:10] He's paranoid.

[23:44:11] I really can back this boss like that, so far.

[23:44:14] It's not okay, bro.

[23:44:20] Both of them are trinkets for you, that's fine.

[23:44:23] I think they were waiting on the thing.

[23:44:30] Got dodgeballs fellow.

[23:44:32] They're not coming.

[23:44:36] Boss aside, stop it.

[23:44:38] I'm gonna fight with the boss actually.

[23:44:41] Just a classic.

[23:45:06] You're skipping a page, War.

[23:45:07] I believe.

[23:45:08] You get the haste.

[23:45:10] I have the biggest pump.

[23:45:11] I have the biggest pump.

[23:45:12] I saw this, I saw this.

[23:45:13] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[23:45:14] Biggest pump.

[23:45:16] Keep up.

[23:45:18] I'm getting dodgeball.

[23:45:19] I'm getting dodgeball.

[23:45:20] Skip, skip, skip, skip.

[23:45:21] Ooh, there!

[23:45:23] Kill, kill, kill!

[23:45:25] Oh! Oh!

[23:45:26] Oh my fucking god, dude!

[23:45:28] Hit me twice.

[23:45:30] Hit the nut?

[23:45:42] Two people more.

[23:46:28] Yeah.

[23:46:54] Must have a version.

[23:46:55] Yeah.

[23:46:56] Yeah.

[23:46:57] Yeah.

[23:46:58] Nice.

[23:46:59] That's actually G.

[23:47:00] That's actually G.

[23:47:01] You know...

[23:47:03] How does it go on this point?

[23:47:04] How does it go on this point?

[23:47:22] I guess it's standing.

[23:47:23] Guys, slow and steady, remember.

[23:47:35] What's the difference, guys?

[23:47:37] What's the range though?

[23:47:39] It was nice what we saw earlier.

[23:48:01] Oh, the range.

[23:48:02] They play some evoker?

[23:48:14] Yeah.

[23:48:15] Beast?

[23:48:16] They were forced and everything?

[23:48:18] Oh my god.

[23:48:19] Three different games.

[23:48:21] Biggest pump.

[23:48:22] Completely different games.

[23:48:24] I hope they're ready to start practicing for MGA.

[23:48:29] What's the range?

[23:48:30] Can't wait.

[23:48:31] We should have longer range.

[23:48:32] Stop again.

[23:48:33] I'm sure.

[23:48:34] You're early.

[23:48:43] As I have 10 minutes, 10 to the rate.

[23:49:31] Where is it?

[23:49:34] He didn't send the plat to kill QG

[23:49:44] I wonder if Kassadin's shag is better than Holy Shag now

[23:49:47] Yeah, he's better

[23:49:48] Buffs

[23:49:50] What's better than one?

[23:49:52] Kassadin's shag and Holy Shag will go damage

[23:49:56] For years

[23:49:59] No

[23:50:00] No? Okay

[23:50:02] Yeah, I don't think so

[23:50:02] Okay, I suppose it's that

[23:50:03] What is going on?

[23:50:07] Vex is soloing his boss

[23:50:09] Who's that guy?

[23:50:10] Only 50 second burst case

[23:50:19] I think it was profound

[23:50:21] Vex here, playing, yeah

[23:50:23] I was gonna

[23:50:24] I don't know, really.

[23:50:25] That tank is running away from me. Oh no.

[23:50:46] Oh no.

[23:50:47] Once it's stuck up.

[23:50:48] I might shoot him.

[23:50:52] Woohoo!

[23:50:53] No, I'm not fair to run for luck.

[23:50:57] Too much bomb, too much ice, you know.

[23:50:59] Actually true.

[23:51:01] Are you getting home because you're using this?

[23:51:03] Yes, I'm not even getting home. I'm just using damage.

[23:51:05] But I thought I'd be in the same like five years later or what.

[23:51:07] Yeah, that's right.

[23:51:08] I'm gonna train good.

[23:51:30] I'm gonna train good.

[23:51:31] I'm gonna train good.

[23:51:33] Okay, let's go.

[23:51:34] I didn't even get it actually.

[23:51:35] Fuck.

[23:51:36] I don't think we got that guy here.

[23:51:38] Nope.

[23:51:39] Bambooz has.

[23:51:40] Bambooz has.

[23:51:41] No.

[23:51:42] It's fine.

[23:51:43] I don't need it.

[23:51:44] We can kill the boss.

[23:51:45] Okay.

[23:51:46] We need to provide.

[23:51:47] Thanks for help, boys.

[23:51:48] Yeah.

[23:51:49] Yeah.

[23:51:50] We'll get the boys.

[23:51:51] Good luck with this, bro.

[23:51:52] Good luck in that run.

[23:51:53] Thank you.

[23:51:58] Thank you to the channel.

[23:51:59] Real.

[23:52:05] Too real.

[23:52:08] I've never played Blue Star before.

[23:52:16] I've never played Blue Star before.

[23:52:18] I know.

[23:52:19] You missed that, man.

[23:52:21] Yeah, I played Loom City.

[23:52:23] Huh.

[23:52:26] I saw the core experience that everyone should have on set.

[23:52:28] Yeah, that's possible.

[23:52:29] I can screw it when you're bored.

[23:52:31] Yeah.

[23:52:32] Actually, that was all you did in school, yeah.

[23:52:50] We played this fucking Numbus game where you had to stack them up.

[23:52:54] Yeah.

[23:52:55] For the core.

[23:52:57] Numbus game.

[23:52:59] Yeah.

[23:53:00] This was not like a step by the team in Arizona.

[23:53:02] Or a...

[23:53:03] Like, you know, you...

[23:53:05] I don't know what you're talking about.

[23:53:10] You're saying?

[23:53:11] It sounds like something the teacher told you to do right now.

[23:53:14] Oh, bro.

[23:53:15] You played a numbers game of your own choice.

[23:53:18] You're so nervous. You played math games for fun.

[23:53:21] It's not math games, bro.

[23:54:36] It's quish making sex noises, of course.

[23:54:39] Nice games to scooter.

[23:54:41] Ok, nothing wrong with that

[23:54:47] Is this like weird homoerotic twoset?

[23:54:50] Been a thing all of last question as well

[23:54:52] It's the new front

[23:54:53] It's the new front thing

[23:54:54] Ok

[23:54:55] They have not been together before

[23:54:56] I know, weird joke

[23:54:57] It's the front part

[23:55:03] It's not the front part again

[23:55:05] Not at all

[23:55:10] That wasn't...

[23:55:11] That was new, there's no way to get in there

[23:55:13] Maybe I run

[23:55:14] Yeah, no way to get in there

[23:55:16] Oh, I run

[23:55:17] Oh, that makes...

[23:55:22] That's some juicy dive, bro

[23:55:24] Oh, we're not 15, let's go!

[23:55:27] Let's go!

[23:55:29] Fucking burnt.

[23:55:39] Making up the machine is actually, this is so exciting.

[23:55:42] Whoever invented this must have invented City of Thuds.

[23:55:46] And elves.

[23:55:47] I'm going to take a speed ship.

[23:55:55] Have your luck.

[23:55:57] Maybe go on and fall.

[23:55:59] Get them from everywhere.

[23:56:03] I'll watch this.

[23:56:12] I'll pop a towel on it.

[23:56:13] And then go board it.

[23:56:27] I'm just walking around pressing the button.

[23:57:17] I don't want to see your pyre

[23:57:19] Or...

[23:57:20] Give us a thought

[23:57:22] She's not here

[23:57:23] I know they're just pying fired up

[23:57:35] What's up boys?

[23:57:37] What's up?

[23:57:38] Oh, that's so funny

[23:57:39] Well, somebody's trying to see your pyre bro

[23:57:42] Oh, that's cool

[23:57:45] He's still up in the toilet or something

[23:57:47] Yeah

[23:57:48] Nice

[23:57:50] I guess we're jumping

[24:01:37] Good morning everyone

[24:01:38] We have returned

[24:01:39] Rested and hydrated after our push-up exertions earlier

[24:01:42] Where I came

[24:01:43] I came very close to getting beaten in push-ups by the girl. It was extraordinarily impressive huge giga-chat or giga-girl

[24:01:50] I don't know which one's more appropriate to the girl here

[24:01:53] So we are I would say moments away, but knowing I come more like

[24:01:59] half hours away from

[24:02:02] Pulling mythic sibling court. We haven't told they are going to go back in this looking court

[24:02:05] They've been spending this morning filling out their great vaults

[24:02:07] doing the plush, doing some delves, getting some alt set up for next week,

[24:02:11] you have no idea what Queen Antrex is going to require, so they want to go into the reset

[24:02:16] with everything prepared, everything ready to go, because whether Silkencourt dies today for Echo or

[24:02:21] not won't make an enormous difference in how next week goes, but having your characters prep will.

[24:02:26] It definitely will, because of course there are certain characters that we've seen so many

[24:02:32] people, so many players play different classes in this and different roles as

[24:02:37] well in this race, like more than what we've ever seen before I think. So having

[24:02:41] multiple characters prepared especially because we don't know what Anstrak is

[24:02:44] gonna do and even if they managed to reach Anstrak as we talked about earlier

[24:02:48] they will only be able to see phase one a little bit because there's only so

[24:02:53] much time left in a day and at that point it's not gonna give you as

[24:02:56] much information to know what you're gonna need later on, right? Because

[24:02:59] just because something is good in phase one doesn't mean that you know we're stacking that or that that's also going to be good in later phases

[24:03:06] and as progression goes on a very difficult boss it's like you optimize something for phase one but then it turns out oh

[24:03:11] in phase two we need this completely different damage profile and we're gonna have to cut back on whatever are the good damage profiles for phase one

[24:03:18] so it's very likely that their comp is going to be changing a lot throughout that boss progression.

[24:03:24] I agree, I think that's absolutely true in fact we saw an enormous number of comp changes occurring over yesterday's full day of progress

[24:03:29] on SilkencourtFreco. Rotating through a large number of classes and specs. Majors trying out

[24:03:34] frost, majors trying out fire, swapping the rogues around, adding warriors, subtracting warriors,

[24:03:37] adding shaman, subtracting tanks. Today we'll be bringing a tank back in. Of course, there is also

[24:03:41] a morale argument, right? For sure. Liquid did kill Silkencourt today. Congratulations to them.

[24:03:46] That is awesome. So there is some morale based, you know, pressure on Echo. They would like

[24:03:52] to be in a similar position as having killed the same number of bosses in week one. And of

[24:03:56] And of course they have all day to do so, so it would be a downer if you spent all day

[24:04:00] trying and failed to do so.

[24:04:01] I don't know that it would impact the race very much, but I do think it would impact the

[24:04:03] morale, right?

[24:04:04] Yesterday was really good for morale, right?

[24:04:06] Because Liquid went dark for their Silicon Core progress for a large chunk of the

[24:04:09] day, came back and it looked like they were behind when Ekko went to bed, progressed

[24:04:13] all day, ended up killing it toward the end of their raid day.

[24:04:15] So Ekko would like to, for the sake of feeling like they're in the similar

[24:04:18] position in the race, kill the boss.

[24:04:20] Of course they'd get some additional loot and that could be the fourth or sixth

[24:04:24] boss kill for some characters, which open up another mythic vault option.

[24:04:28] So definitely benefits to killing it.

[24:04:29] They are planning to do so.

[24:04:31] They are stopping their upcoming, they're all currently finishing up their

[24:04:34] last activity, killing Zekvir here, um, and getting ready to go in the raid.

[24:04:38] There may be some delay being Echo.

[24:04:41] Oh, a little bit of a death there.

[24:04:43] Um, there may be some delay it being Echo for them to have a meeting

[24:04:45] and discuss what they're going to do.

[24:04:47] They do have to adjust their strategy because, um, Silicon court after,

[24:04:51] After yesterday's day of progress, where Ekko is using a one tank strategy,

[24:04:54] Siliconcourt has been changed to force you to use two tanks

[24:04:58] and nerfing the overall boss's health by 5%.

[24:05:02] So that's going to have a pretty big impact on their overall strategy.

[24:05:06] Yeah, definitely.

[24:05:06] So again, I go back to the two tanking, of course, as we initially did at the start of aggression

[24:05:12] and that's going to require them to make some change

[24:05:15] or to revert some changes that they've made because of the one tanking strat.

[24:05:18] I do think it's gonna be

[24:05:20] Much easier for them to take the one tanking off course, and it's not gonna be taking them much time to adjust to that

[24:05:27] But they definitely want to make sure I think I like the fact that they're getting all of these chores out of the way

[24:05:32] First because otherwise you always because you don't know exactly how long it will take you

[24:05:38] Good to get these chores done it and let me explain the chores like they're trying to feel they're involved with it

[24:05:42] Plus tense and just getting whatever weekly reset things they have to get done done

[24:05:46] right and if you don't want to be in a position where you're progressing

[24:05:50] Silicon Court and at the back of your mind you know

[24:05:53] Oh, we still have to go and do mythic class sense, and you don't know exactly how long it's gonna take you

[24:05:58] So the decision that they made is like, okay

[24:06:01] We're gonna just get all of these chores out of the way

[24:06:03] However much it takes because we know we need those extra items as extra gear for answer next ID

[24:06:10] and then once we're done we can just fully commit to Silicon Court and

[24:06:14] and then they have a much better idea on when they want to end their raid day.

[24:06:18] Of course, tomorrow will also be the reset, meaning at 6am the servers are up, well hopefully they're gonna be up depending on their maintenance,

[24:06:26] but they should be at the 6am and that means that they want to go straight away into the raid or whatever it is they want to do at 6am.

[24:06:33] That means that they don't want to go really long today.

[24:06:37] Yeah. It would be a mistake to stay up really really late today just for the sake of getting a Silicon Core kill,

[24:06:43] though won't have a huge impact on the race, because of course reset tomorrow means you just have to kill it again.

[24:06:48] And mess up your sleep schedule when you're going to be waking up around five in the morning tomorrow to come in for a six a.m.

[24:06:54] Re-clear. And it's really important to be on point for your re-clear and any potential splits you may do.

[24:07:00] Races in the past have arguably been determined by sloppy, slow re-clears, right?

[24:07:05] If you come and have a really crisp, tidy re-clear, not wiping too many times,

[24:07:09] smoothly going through the bosses that were hard in the previous week,

[24:07:11] You save hours of progression time to go in kill sleep in court and start getting an early start on answer

[24:07:16] I progress if you have a sloppy reclear extends in late into the day

[24:07:20] Maybe you don't get to progress looking court. It takes you an extra day to do that

[24:07:23] Or kill still can court then you're you're losing significant progress on the last boss

[24:07:28] This upcoming reset is going to be all about Queen and correct

[24:07:31] So it would be a mistake. I think for them to step too late

[24:07:33] They've announced to us already kind of internally that they intend to stop at 8 p.m

[24:07:38] Which is a little bit earlier than in the past

[24:07:39] They've maintained a really consistent sleep schedule so far this week, right?

[24:07:43] They came in at 6 a.m. On the first day and then consistently were playing from around 7 to around 9 30 or 10 every day since then

[24:07:49] Tonight because they have to come back in at 6 a.m. Again at our shift

[24:07:52] They're gonna stop at 8 instead of at 9 or 10

[24:07:54] but a very small adjustment in order to get ready for the reset and

[24:07:58] I commend them for doing a better job than in any previous race maintaining a sleep schedule not pushing it further

[24:08:03] And for the back 10 30 11 11 30 12 12 30 1 for that tindral kill, right?

[24:08:07] They've done a really really good job and I think they're going to keep it up

[24:08:12] So probably stopping at 8 and I completely agree with you right getting the chores

[24:08:14] Then in the morning means you can say okay rest of the day still concord. Let's get this done and

[24:08:19] That's much better than okay. It's 6 o'clock at 7 o'clock. We've got an hour to bedtime. Should we stop or close?

[24:08:25] We need to do keys the other alternative that they have

[24:08:30] Available is the option of doing this expose

[24:08:33] something that's happened in previous tiers if you come into a second reset is

[24:08:38] any characters that were potential mains that did not go into the raid for mythic

[24:08:42] can do easy bosses on mythic and mythic split, the people who are saved to this

[24:08:47] lockout go in on random alts, of which they have an abundance, and the people

[24:08:51] who didn't come into the reset go do mythic splits. This is a little bit of a

[24:08:54] weird tier because so many characters got locked to this lockout, so we

[24:08:57] don't know how valuable mythic splits would be, what kind of characters

[24:09:01] have available that are potential names that maybe they want to swap in for on

[24:09:04] start the biggest ones potentially being something like shadow priests which you

[24:09:08] haven't seen at all potentially extra druids which we've seen very rarely I did

[24:09:12] take a look at some logs yeah right during the break and they have done two

[24:09:17] mythic all grots splits at some point I think last night right before going to

[24:09:23] bed a little bit a little bit sneak yet I didn't know they had done that they

[24:09:26] but only the first boss and looking at the logs it was really hard to tell

[24:09:29] who they were trying to gear up in it because they have so many characters and so I'm interested

[24:09:34] to find out if they might do the other three a couple of times.

[24:09:38] It is very possible because of the difficulty being so low on these early bosses, right?

[24:09:44] And for a split second, I had a thought when you were saying, when you were saying

[24:09:50] that there might be some characters that are unsafe, but there's somebody to switch

[24:09:53] in.

[24:09:54] And I was thinking, okay, maybe there's some characters that they switched in, but

[24:09:56] they weren't actually part of the kill, but then you accepted the idea anyway when you did anything.

[24:10:01] And just one second I was like, wait, maybe now it doesn't have an idea.

[24:10:04] I can't say it one time, so...

[24:10:06] Now it's just sitting all the time for the one-time strats.

[24:10:10] Interestingly, he didn't complain that much when he was benched on Nexus Princess Cavesa,

[24:10:17] and it didn't get changed.

[24:10:18] But he did tweet about being benched on Silkencourt, and now it gets changed, you know?

[24:10:22] Yeah, good point.

[24:10:24] I did also want to talk about the re-clear because I think a lot of people that are watching

[24:10:30] the race so first are not necessarily aware of how much easier it is for a guild to re-kill

[24:10:37] a boss compared to killing it the first time.

[24:10:40] Now this is of course boss dependent, some bosses are still hard to re-kill, but that's

[24:10:45] very rare.

[24:10:47] Even a mechanically very difficult boss fight is much easier for them to kill the second

[24:10:53] time around, not only because they have more gear, but also because they have tried the

[24:10:57] boss so many times, once they have killed the boss, they could also kill it again, the next

[24:11:02] pull. And if they had 10 more pulls, they probably would kill it twice again in those

[24:11:05] 10 pulls, right? Because at that point, they had the strategy down. The only exception

[24:11:10] where a re-kill actually was very difficult was something like a laundress, where the

[24:11:15] The boss was so volatile, but other than that, something like a QVesa for example, like the

[24:11:22] single target boss that took them so long to kill this time around, it's going to be

[24:11:26] a lot easier for them next time around, even without any nerfs coming through.

[24:11:30] It is...

[24:11:31] I'm not saying that they're not going to wipe a single time, but it is very possible

[24:11:34] that they only have a handful of wipes, even though it is a difficult boss.

[24:11:37] And then of course Blue Twister is going to get nerfed, and I think Silicon

[24:11:41] also a mechanically difficult fight but the damage is not being too high. I do

[24:11:45] think that boss will also die pretty quickly if they kill it today. Yeah I

[24:11:50] think that's a really good point. Usually re-clears are massively smoother and

[24:11:54] easier than first clears. Not only because you have practiced the boss 200,

[24:11:58] 300 times but also because you're going in with an extra three to six item level

[24:12:03] kind of guessing here. Based on how lucrative your great vault was and

[24:12:06] whether you got gear from the first four bosses which dropped fairly easily.

[24:12:09] item level does an enormous amount of work for making bosses easier. You live

[24:12:14] more easily, your healers do more, your damage is higher, that usually multiplies

[24:12:17] through the boss because you get through the missions fast, you heal as fast, everything's easier.

[24:12:20] So I do agree, I don't think any of the bosses of this tier are like huge walls

[24:12:25] like Hollander, so it'll be difficult to re-clear. In the past there have been

[24:12:28] examples of bosses where you had difficulty re-clearing, Artificer,

[24:12:33] Zymox for example, very famously Echo really struggled with the re-clear

[24:12:37] because of the timings that boss had with Spell Cue and things like that.

[24:12:40] There was fear back in the Kahoon tier that Fetted Devourer would be a wall to re-clearing.

[24:12:45] That tier ended up being interesting.

[24:12:48] And then of course demonstrating your point, right, Jaina took several hundred pulls for Method to clear,

[24:12:55] but then they killed it, went into the reset, one shot it, no problem,

[24:12:58] and ended up killing it twice before their competitor did that tier.

[24:13:02] Just because of how easy it is, once you practice it, once you have your strat down,

[24:13:05] you've gone through it smoothly because you've compensated and you get that extra gear so

[24:13:09] Historically reclears are significantly easier not a big wall to progress

[24:13:13] I would expect reclears to be done within a day or both guilds. Yeah, and if they're not that's a failure

[24:13:18] Right because you really want this week to be all about onslaught

[24:13:21] As early as possible. We are seeing the raid get put together here as we head back into silken core progress very soon

[24:13:27] I do see almost all the raiders looking at their second screen

[24:13:29] So probably getting a little bit of a tutorial from scrip who's been prepping raid plans and

[24:13:33] the strategies all morning.

[24:13:36] Yes, and while they're preparing for the boss, I did also want to talk a little bit about

[24:13:42] Heroic Splits again now.

[24:13:44] We all are dreading the Heroic Splits and we don't want to see them, but it is incredibly

[24:13:48] likely that we can see some more Heroic Splits next week as well.

[24:13:51] I just wonder when they're going to do them, because usually they want to get the Splits

[24:13:57] out of the way as early as possible for numerous reasons, to not waste any time

[24:14:02] playing bosses with lower item level than you could have because of how much easier it

[24:14:05] is with having more item level, but then also in addition because you don't necessarily

[24:14:08] want to, like, like you play this game of chicken between like the top guilds, right?

[24:14:15] Because if one guild reaches a phase of a boss faster, like let's say they are all

[24:14:18] on Amstrak, and Liquid shows like a certain phase for the first time, then of course

[24:14:24] the EU guilds can see what they're doing, getting some timers or whatever, getting

[24:14:28] some information and then they can apply to them.

[24:14:30] So doing something that is efficient, that is not progressing the boss, you want to do

[24:14:36] that first to have that happen that the other guild shows you stuff that you don't want

[24:14:41] to waste time on yourself.

[24:14:43] But you don't necessarily want to do split braids for characters that you might not want

[24:14:48] to use in answering, right?

[24:14:50] So you need information on the boss before you can decide what kind of split braids

[24:14:55] you're doing.

[24:14:56] Absolutely, and liquid in an enviable position at the moment as they were able to kill

[24:14:59] still look in court before the end of their raid day, go in and get a few

[24:15:02] sciencey polls we see from the competitive mode tracking that they did

[24:15:07] four polls on Queen Answer, getting to 83% in phase one. So they got some data,

[24:15:10] got some information. As you spoke about earlier, right, with a boss like Answer,

[24:15:14] where it's an end boss, you have no idea what's actually going to be

[24:15:16] happening, especially toward the end of the fight. Those are being very vague

[24:15:18] and deliberately ambiguous about it, not being tested on the PTR. So it's

[24:15:22] not the best data, but it is some data. Another factor that can go into

[24:15:25] that is it might be worth waiting to do splits if you're concerned about finding

[24:15:31] out that you suddenly get to phase three and you have a situation where some

[24:15:35] spec becomes vastly more important than you thought it was and you want to make

[24:15:39] sure that you can do splits for that character and didn't use them as an

[24:15:42] alt to enable splits for something else right this has happened you know

[24:15:46] rarely in the past right I think I think the high malt here on you know

[24:15:51] impaired of Margot he had that secret phase in the last phase where in

[24:15:54] hand shaman became extraordinarily good because they could a we the ads and they

[24:15:56] weren't good anywhere else if something like that happened where suddenly

[24:15:59] something became amazing and you had this regarded that spec before the

[24:16:02] obvious example here being like shadow priests you used all of those shadow

[24:16:06] priests to enable splits for other characters you get to the last phase

[24:16:08] and suddenly shadow priests is phenomenal I don't know why maybe master

[24:16:11] spells or grips or something become really really important you would hate

[24:16:14] to be in the position where you couldn't then gear him up so like

[24:16:17] you said a lot of factors going on as to whether the weather and when they'll

[24:16:20] I think my gut says that it's going to be more as an add needed thing.

[24:16:25] This tier, they spend a lot of time doing splits in preparation,

[24:16:28] but then when they got to new bosses and said,

[24:16:30] okay, we need to split for Can-X, we need to split for this character,

[24:16:32] okay, we're going to use another Death Knight, let's do a split for that Death Knight.

[24:16:35] And that kind of ad hoc as needed approach,

[24:16:38] both save time and ensures you always have the characters available

[24:16:42] that you might end up needing.

[24:16:44] And this has been such a volatile tier in terms of comp

[24:16:46] that that flexibility is very valuable.

[24:16:49] Yeah, that is very true, but it looks like we are finally back on the Silicon Court now.

[24:16:56] They are ready to fully commit to this boss now for the rest of the day.

[24:17:00] Well, that's just getting bold, of course.

[24:17:02] Unless they be moved to Explosives and stop at some point.

[24:17:05] Well, I mean, I personally think that they're just going to fully commit, right?

[24:17:09] I think so too, and I think there's a chance they can kill it, right, at some point today.

[24:17:13] Obviously, you look at showing that it's killable.

[24:17:15] A couple of interesting things to know.

[24:17:18] I think Vayner has added the poison tracking, the poison totem tracking to his bars that he wasn't tracking yesterday.

[24:17:24] Because they're rotating poison cleansing to take the poison dot off of the tank that the spider boss spams.

[24:17:30] And he has the backup poison to spell so you can see if the totems are or are not available before he spends that global.

[24:17:36] Can't make a spell as well as it is.

[24:17:38] Yeah, but canyx, I mean canyx.

[24:17:40] But the evokers one.

[24:17:41] Yeah, and the evokers, right.

[24:17:43] With three totems on a one minute cooldown you can do it every 20 seconds just with totems

[24:17:47] They cover six seconds each so you might not need to do too many to spells outside of those windows

[24:17:52] And I of course ideally you don't want dps losing globals if possible healing levels are much less valuable

[24:17:57] They are forced to abandon their solo tank strategy from yesterday blizzard has buffed the

[24:18:04] Damage vulnerability that the tank buster does from 100 to

[24:18:08] 1,000% and in exchange they've reduced the duration from one minute every 20 seconds to 30 seconds every 20 seconds

[24:18:15] So now you can easily alternate back and forth, only ever having one stack, whereas yesterday

[24:18:19] you couldn't do that.

[24:18:20] I think it's interesting, we should keep an eye on comp, right?

[24:18:24] Yesterday we tried a bear and a broom master in the wind went to death knight, and broom

[24:18:27] master in the wind went to death knight, currently keeping canyx in on that boomkin,

[24:18:31] instead of going with the guardian.

[24:18:32] Yeah, that is interesting.

[24:18:33] We definitely have seen Echo stick to the boomkin a little bit more than other guilds

[24:18:38] in comparison.

[24:18:39] Now, I definitely think that this whole meme with Munkin's being bad and stuff, a lot of people are like, oh, they aren't actually better. Has everyone been lying?

[24:18:50] In case some people don't know, Munkin actually did get a pretty significant buff on the reset when they came out.

[24:18:57] In fact, a 10% single target buff, which is an incredibly huge number.

[24:19:03] Yeah, that's a lot of damage.

[24:19:04] So it wasn't like lies or it wasn't memes, Moonkin was indeed actually very like bad and

[24:19:09] underperforming and significant damage.

[24:19:10] You can't trick chat.

[24:19:12] Every tier Moonkin can say, oh we're not viable, our damage is so bad, didn't they end up

[24:19:16] in the raid every time?

[24:19:17] What is that about?

[24:19:18] I do think that if that 10% buff wouldn't have happened, then you could literally call

[24:19:22] Moonkin like non-viable, I think, in a raid.

[24:19:24] Like that 10% damage increase is actually like very like large, that's so huge.

[24:19:30] Kenix would be competing with a tank DPS if we didn't have received those buffs.

[24:19:34] It is worth noting, even with those buffs, it's not good.

[24:19:38] Yeah, it's definitely still like average.

[24:19:41] Yeah, on the Princess Kaiba as a kill, I'm not calling Kenix out here, performing admirably, he was last in DPS.

[24:19:48] Single target damage is still not great.

[24:19:50] Now on Brute Twister he was second in DPS because of the enormous work Starfall did.

[24:19:54] And I think on this fight he's going to do pretty well as well because of the extra adds and the cleave damage.

[24:19:58] In the first damage window on the beetle, when you take double damage, Kenix is typically top damage in that window,

[24:20:04] because he sends a convoke, depending on how many star surges I guess it mostly is about in that window.

[24:20:10] It's like dream bursts, but it's like a hero talent thing with trees and whatever.

[24:20:15] You can do a lot of burst, as Moonkin nowadays, with those new hero talents.

[24:20:19] It's actually really nice to play around it as well.

[24:20:22] It gives you something to look out for, because otherwise the Moonkin rotation is pretty bland.

[24:20:26] And now you have some damage windows, some additional ones.

[24:20:29] In the past, famously, we had this 3 minute cooldown, so well, everyone else seemed to have much shorter than that,

[24:20:34] and it seemed to always be a little bit of a downside from Moomki, but now we actually have the 2 minute cooldowns,

[24:20:39] and we do have that tier atelon with the trees.

[24:20:41] I'm still not a fan of the Keeper of the Grove tier atelon, like it's playing around your trees,

[24:20:45] it's like, I don't know, not the biggest fan, but yeah, that is what Kha'Nix is doing,

[24:20:49] and he's getting some extra damage into this window.

[24:20:52] unfortunately those damage windows that you have on the boss are a little bit strange

[24:20:56] there's many classes that do not have their cooldowns line up for it

[24:21:00] so you have to like really map out the whole fight and figure out okay when are we getting this

[24:21:05] everything that is there when is it then does it make sense for me to hold the cooldowns where

[24:21:09] however long or is it not worth it and it's actually that's something that i really like

[24:21:14] about fights like these where you really have to like strategize look at logs look at timings

[24:21:18] and really figure out your own kind of damage profile and just sort of math.

[24:21:22] Well they do have they do have a lot of analysts helping with that. It's really

[24:21:26] interesting in this fight because the first two damage burst windows on the

[24:21:29] beetle are fairly scripted. They have it at 40 seconds to about a minute

[24:21:33] in the fight and then again 140 to the 2-minute mark before that first

[24:21:36] intermission. After that there's some wiggle room for the guild to

[24:21:41] manipulate it a little bit. If you extend the intermission a little bit

[24:21:44] then you change the damage windows in phase two. Similarly if you extend

[24:21:46] in the second animation a little bit,

[24:21:48] you extend the damage windows in phase three.

[24:21:50] Ideally what you're trying to do is create a situation

[24:21:53] in which both bosses are stacked up for a damage window

[24:21:57] with cooldowns available.

[24:21:58] And in one of those cooldown of the windows,

[24:22:00] you're going to be using less than there's ways

[24:22:01] to manipulate that, right?

[24:22:02] The beetle goes charging across,

[24:22:03] you try to stop them at the exact moment

[24:22:05] that he intersects the spider,

[24:22:07] so that you have them stacked up

[24:22:08] for the damage window.

[24:22:09] Another thing they've been doing

[24:22:10] is trying to have beetles alive in phase one

[24:22:12] at the same time as the charge,

[24:22:14] getting stopped so they can get some feed damage,

[24:22:16] funnel damage on those. That's interesting because I think having extra adds up, it can only be a

[24:22:23] benefit for most classes. Like it's very rarely at downside, but for Moonkin unfortunately it is

[24:22:28] a downside because Convoke can be hitting those adds. Convoke can do all kinds of random things.

[24:22:33] Yeah, they actually fixed it a little bit because the RNG of the Convoke was something that

[24:22:37] the people have complained about because obviously whenever there are random adds then you can't

[24:22:40] can't do your single target damage anymore. So now Convoke actually only stars are just

[24:22:45] your target. It doesn't send the stars to just randomly out anymore, but it still uses

[24:22:49] the other spells randomly. So like your moonfires or your rafts or whatever. So it's, you still

[24:22:54] lose single target damage by having that stuff, but not as much anymore, which is a

[24:22:57] good change.

[24:22:58] I saw a couple pulls where Kanax Convoked during the Damage Amp, all cooldowns popped

[24:23:02] and then you see like someone was a little bit low health and they get rejuve, regrowth

[24:23:05] some random target. It's not even yourself! What the heck? Losing convoked spells to healing

[24:23:11] Fraggo? What the heck? We have some comp changes from yesterday. This is an interesting looking

[24:23:16] comp. I'm going to be curious to find out what spec the evokers are playing because Fraggo and

[24:23:20] Macyn have been experimenting with Double Og or One Dev or Both Dev. So we have two DPS

[24:23:25] evokers, two DPS Warlocks, two DPS Shamans, two DPS Deathknights, two DPS Mages. So a

[24:23:31] relatively stacked of pairs group and then you have one demon hunter for the debuff one druid for the

[24:23:36] mark of the wild one warrior for the shout and of course your healer comp which has been very

[24:23:42] interesting this time around we've had some very strange changes the first four bosses when exactly

[24:23:46] as you'd expect with you know evokers uh been a priest and paladin for those kind of mandatory

[24:23:51] fortitude and or mastery buffs the paladin got dropped on uh brew twister which is like anasma

[24:23:59] You would never drop your Holy Paladin before this expansion, but he got dropped for a three-healed double preservation of ochre holy priest combo

[24:24:05] And then got dropped again on Kyveza for an extra preservation of ochre for raid healing again giving up that aura mastery really interesting

[24:24:13] Bringing in a rep paladin instead to bring the diva aura back in on this fight and doing extremely good healing

[24:24:18] It's a little bit less ideal for the evokers. Although they are still pumping

[24:24:21] So interesting changes happening with the healers this time around

[24:24:24] those enhancements have been doing insanely good damage every single boss of the tier

[24:24:29] so I personally don't know that much about enhancements but I know that like in

[24:24:34] dragonflies in season one they have this insane potential of DPS like when you

[24:24:39] would sim them they had this like incredibly high number but then it

[24:24:44] ended up being like a very big like RNG factor that like the the lowest damage

[24:24:49] number they could do and the highest was like a large large variance yeah and

[24:24:53] I'm not sure if that is still true. I don't think it is. I don't have science or sins behind me

[24:24:58] But I do have watching several hundred polls of Kaiveza where every single poll the shamans were on top and on the kill

[24:25:03] Both shamans are the top two DPS that seemed consistent, right?

[24:25:08] Could we maybe do a little run around the room I see Jinji studying as a monitor

[24:25:12] I think we're currently in school for the Silicon Court. I'd love to flash between all of you have used here

[24:25:16] Yep, they're looking at our monitor

[24:25:18] Being present being studying our raid plans and our strategies as Roger or scribe explains exactly we're doing

[24:25:24] We are indeed in school look at all of our studious little students now

[24:25:28] It's anyone not paying attention a scribe lecturing the class at the moment

[24:25:33] Are you bored, Ryson?

[24:25:39] Rise like I know

[24:25:44] Yeah, so some strategy

[24:25:46] It was somebody that really paid attention in school all the time, so I was like, you think so?

[24:25:51] Oh yes. Yeah, he's a studious, intelligent man.

[24:25:53] Okay. Yeah, I think so.

[24:25:55] Because there are people who are like very, like, they pay attention,

[24:26:00] are very good at keeping up with video games, but then in school, they're like, oh.

[24:26:05] True, we know some of those.

[24:26:08] I remember there's nothing to do with school and video games,

[24:26:10] there's like things they're interested in.

[24:26:11] Exactly. It's much easier to remain focused when you care about what's going on.

[24:26:15] Yeah, but then you have people like the rogues who just don't pay attention no matter what

[24:26:19] I'm just gonna go hit the boss. Don't need to know any of this

[24:26:22] Of course echo has had the overnight to work on their strategy and refine what they learned from last night

[24:26:28] And then liquid got very far and then killed the boss just a little while ago this morning

[24:26:32] So echo can learn some from those as well

[24:26:35] Scribes been working on ray friends all morning

[24:26:37] So they are currently presenting the refined final strategy for slaying this boss swapping over to the two tank strategy

[24:26:44] And we will see how that goes once they stop discussing and begin pulling of course

[24:26:49] We'll also take that opportunity to explain what's going on in the fight

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[24:29:02] What's the next cast or shift?

[24:29:04] Nude.

[24:29:05] Who would the cast be?

[24:29:07] It is Alex and Mike.

[24:29:10] Alex and Mike. Maybe another push-up challenge for them later on.

[24:29:17] Could be. I think maybe all of the cast should have to go through it.

[24:29:20] But then it feels like we should have, you know, like...

[24:29:23] I don't know, turned it into a tournament, drawn heat.

[24:29:27] Yeah, that would be great.

[24:29:28] I feel like maybe we had the most competitive set.

[24:29:31] anyone else doing 20. What do you think? I think Mike and Medic came to 20. I would like to see

[24:29:37] Mike and Medic do push-ups. Yeah. I think that would too. Remember to bring it up. I think Jordan can do 20.

[24:29:45] I think if we picked anything other than push-ups, you would have beaten me.

[24:29:50] I think so. I think you're going to do bench press. Maybe not weightlifting. Or arm wrestling.

[24:29:57] I do have, you know, two pounds for every one of yours.

[24:30:02] So there are things that I could be at, but if we had done jogging,

[24:30:04] I would have been demolished, right?

[24:30:06] Or any kind of cardio.

[24:30:09] I've never been on the mountain in my life and I was gasped after the pushups

[24:30:12] and you were just, that wasn't even close to my cardio sessions.

[24:30:15] I remember the other day I went to the gym and you were doing,

[24:30:17] you were biking when I got there.

[24:30:19] I did a full, you know, back workout and you were biking when I left.

[24:30:22] I'm just like exhausted looking at you.

[24:30:25] I had a great time.

[24:30:25] It was great.

[24:30:26] Play some Hearthstone. I won a lot of games.

[24:30:29] Nice. Good work.

[24:30:30] Thank you.

[24:30:31] Yeah. So, yeah, remember to remind the next shift chat that they need to do a push-up challenge.

[24:30:36] Raise $500 for charity. Do a push-up challenge.

[24:30:38] It's your job.

[24:30:39] Yep.

[24:30:40] All right.

[24:30:41] Continuing with school here. Okay. So, Scribe's no longer presenting. Is it Roger or Potter currently presenting?

[24:30:45] I wonder. Roger's having a little... Okay, Potter doing some talking.

[24:30:49] The Potter coming back this tier has been a little bit of a game changer because not only is he extraordinarily good at micromanaging

[24:30:56] every single cooldown in the raid and guiding the raid through when you need to use personal health stones, all the other cooldowns.

[24:31:01] It's also enabled Ryzen to return to the raid for the first time since the Jailer fight,

[24:31:07] and he's been having a huge amount of fun and playing a crucial role as that priest healer in the tier.

[24:31:12] It was funny to see him debate everyone with 17 million druid alts during splits,

[24:31:17] but end up playing the priest as always.

[24:31:19] Interestingly, holy for the vast majority of fights, although we have seen some guilds experimenting with this one on this boss,

[24:31:25] Don't expect it to happen that holy arcane or archon hero talent is just so extraordinarily good. You push halo

[24:31:32] Radiates out and in striking repeatedly over the course of 10 seconds

[24:31:37] Six total hits doing by far the most healing of the holy priest kid

[24:31:42] It's just an amazing smart heal that just heals everyone in the rate just so much and on this fight

[24:31:46] It has huge value because you can just hit everyone even though they're spread out

[24:31:49] They're using a strategy that involves splitting into multiple camps and orbiting around the boss to soak each other's orbs and

[24:31:56] That AoE healing is incredibly valuable. Interestingly enough, also Banner has been putting his beacons of light on non-tanks on this fight

[24:32:05] Because the tank damage on this fight is ridiculously low

[24:32:09] And and inconsistent the tanks take very little damage in weird little spikes and

[24:32:13] Everyone else takes very high damage all the time so you get really good value from putting your beacon of light on anyone that's not standing in the stack.

[24:32:20] You have six people outside of the stack so that they can do the three webs necessary to stop the charge.

[24:32:25] Putting beacon of lights on them is extremely high value.

[24:32:28] So if they're not doing that instead of playing either virtue or tank beacon,

[24:32:32] keep in mind if you're Holy Paladin, your beacon can go on non-tanks if you want.

[24:32:36] Yeah, definitely can. I actually had a beacon on some progression in the previous raids as a

[24:32:43] boomkin. A good target for any defenses you have. And I was very grateful about that beacon.

[24:32:52] Sometimes in high key pushing when I was playing with a boomkin during a couple of

[24:32:55] seasons where they were really good, I would put the beacon on them. Because two

[24:32:59] reasons. First, they're kind of squishy and second, they're always very far away.

[24:33:02] Yeah, that is also true, yeah, yeah, we gotta use our 45 yards range, I always have to set 45 yards away

[24:33:08] You have to use your everything that we can to your advantage, right?

[24:33:12] Yeah, absolutely

[24:33:13] I'm gonna say as well that like as people have been asking are they gonna want us and

[24:33:18] They already did

[24:33:20] Princess a long time ago. In fact, all of the guilds did

[24:33:24] but

[24:33:25] The thing is that we talked about this boss being a very different damage profile compared to Princess

[24:33:30] And it is we have a very different comp here

[24:33:32] So there are a lot of people in there that already had Vantus princess before that they cannot Vantus Silicon Court now

[24:33:39] But I'm sure that the rest of the raiders that were not in on princess

[24:33:42] They are definitely already did Vantus for this for sure. So basically

[24:33:48] Pretty much like the tanks

[24:33:51] So we can look later at the logs and find out exactly how many ventuses we have but you're right

[24:33:55] there are several people in that weren't in on the princess that probably have now so we have

[24:34:00] banner on a different healer many on a different dps a tank that was benched you know robin

[24:34:05] notoriously not good enough to be in the raid comp benched multiple fights in a row you know we

[24:34:10] can't help but notice that the things were just chain dying on princess kind of as a shameful

[24:34:15] yeah honestly that's like it should come up on the on the feedback afterward yeah um so yeah i'll

[24:34:22] take a look at the vantus runes after this a couple other things that we're going to be looking

[24:34:24] for the logs. How many characters do we have in the revanthus? Of course you revanthus now.

[24:34:28] You're not getting the queen answer, but with maybe an hour or two of progress,

[24:34:31] revanthus isn't going to help you kill her. revanthus now to get through as fast as possible,

[24:34:34] so we'll check that. Also revanthus is not very valuable anymore. It's a lot weaker than what

[24:34:38] I was in previous tiers. So I think that was true. They did buff the revanthus room. Yeah,

[24:34:45] like they doubled its value or something. So I no longer know how it compares to previous

[24:34:48] expansions. It was very weak now at my team's closer to on par. It's still free verse,

[24:34:53] which is worthwhile. Yeah, I mean it's obviously better than nothing right, like it's still valuable.

[24:34:57] Right, much like. And it definitely was valuable for Princess because I mean that was a very tight

[24:35:01] damage shock. They killed it in the ring. I don't think, yeah, I don't think any of the guilds would

[24:35:05] have killed it without the damage rune. No, I think that's absolutely true. Of course their ability

[24:35:09] and for damage of course. Yeah, diversity providing some BR and giving you some extra damage as well.

[24:35:14] Another thing we're going to keep an eye on, so overnight after Echo was done pulling for the

[24:35:18] day Blizzard did hot fix the boss to fix the solar tank strategy. You can no longer solar

[24:35:24] take, you must two tank and as part of that they also reduce the boss health by 5%. We don't know yet

[24:35:30] or at least I don't, whether or not that 5% nerf is only to their actual health or also to the

[24:35:37] two shields acquired in each intermission which was a chunky amount of shielding. If that's

[24:35:42] based on their health then that might also have been reduced. Now it's a flat value

[24:35:46] yesterday and we'll just have to go take a look at that. I'm gonna be curious to

[24:35:50] find out because that will obviously affect the viability of taking the

[24:35:54] shield to a certain point and then holding damage for a little bit in order

[24:35:57] to finagle the timings coming out at just such a moment so that three minute

[24:36:01] cooldowns return when the charge comes because the inner missions you can stay

[24:36:04] in as long as you want as long as you can survive the damage ramps up and

[24:36:07] you can try to do it for an extra moment if you want to if that would

[24:36:10] enable big cooldowns to come up during a damage amp, right?

[24:36:14] And we have seen that the guilds are trying to range it such that you get the damage amp

[24:36:19] at the same time that both bosses are stacked, stopping the charge as the boss overlaps with

[24:36:23] a spider, and then popping big cooldowns.

[24:36:26] So you might need to do some perfect timing in order to get those results as the raiders

[24:36:31] are still in school staring at the other monitor learning how Scrypt wants them to

[24:36:37] kill this boss.

[24:36:39] And of course, Liquid killing the boss earlier means that they have a kill POV, they literally

[24:36:44] can look at what they did, that doesn't mean necessarily that they're going to be copying

[24:36:49] like the whole strategy from front to end, but they're going to take the bits they want

[24:36:54] and there's certainly some things that they probably did that they can just copy or

[24:36:59] try to do themselves.

[24:37:01] One of them is like, I do remember hearing I suppose looking at Liquid a little bit,

[24:37:07] They did change, and this is like laid down in the street, they changed the position of

[24:37:12] where they want to root the boss because they can actually determine where the boss stops

[24:37:16] and where it gets the damage increase because you're the ones intercepting it with your

[24:37:20] tethers and depending on where you put the tethers, or the third tether, that's where

[24:37:26] the boss is going to be rooted in place and that's where the boss gets the damage

[24:37:29] increase as well.

[24:37:30] So obviously the position of that is going to matter a lot, to get like extra

[24:37:32] damage in if you want to get some Cleveland or whatever as we were talking about earlier.

[24:37:36] So that is something that Liquid did optimize later on that they didn't think about earlier.

[24:37:41] Not sure if Ekko already had that in mind, but stuff like that would be things that they

[24:37:45] can adapt to if they haven't.

[24:37:47] Absolutely.

[24:37:48] Yesterday certainly in phase one Ekko was trying to ensure that the bosses were, the

[24:37:52] bosses being intercepted on a charge overlapping with the spider and with the beetles as

[24:37:55] well to try to provide some funnel particulars and shamans, but obviously having a kill

[24:37:59] video gives you the opportunity to adapt whatever portions of that strategy you like

[24:38:03] and they will certainly be taking advantage of that as they refine their strategy going into their final day in this lockout.

[24:38:10] Liquid finishing their last raid of this lockout earlier today, killing Siliconcourt, going into Queen Amsec off-stream,

[24:38:17] which is of course natural and the correct decision strategically.

[24:38:20] I'm doing a few pulls to get some data and then going to bed to prepare for their Tuesday morning reset,

[24:38:25] which they're going to be coming in around 10 a.m., I believe, because they have maintenance until 10 a.m.

[24:38:30] Yeah, ECHO has a relatively full day of raiding.

[24:38:34] It is currently 11 o'clock in the morning.

[24:38:36] They spent the first three hours of the day doing nothing,

[24:38:38] plus doing their vaults, filling everything out,

[24:38:40] all of those chores out of the way.

[24:38:41] Now they can focus on Silicon Court for approximately the next nine hours.

[24:38:46] They're going to stop at 8 p.m.

[24:38:48] Today they'll of course have a 30 minute break for lunch, 30 minute break for dinner.

[24:38:51] So eight hours or so of progress or progress adjacent activities,

[24:38:55] such as Roger School to see if they can down the boss as well,

[24:38:59] which would be an enormous boost in morale.

[24:39:02] I think failing to kill this boss wouldn't have a long-term impact on the race

[24:39:06] because it's all about clean and swag next week.

[24:39:07] But it would be a downer, right?

[24:39:09] And a huge morale boost for Liquid for them to be the only guild to kill Silicon Court week one.

[24:39:13] Ekko had great progress on the boss yesterday, getting it to 53%

[24:39:17] and getting some good P3 pulls outlining their strategy there.

[24:39:21] So I think they are absolutely going to be going for a kill.

[24:39:23] And the earlier, the better.

[24:39:25] If they were, hypothetically,

[24:39:27] able to kill it within the next few hours then then they could conceivably

[24:39:31] instead of just having a few science polls on Queen Ansarik do a couple of

[24:39:35] hours on Queen Ansarik and learn some significant amount of information.

[24:39:38] And that of course would be ideal, like that is what they're aiming for now

[24:39:43] they're not gonna be mad if they don't manage to do that, obviously that

[24:39:47] would be like better than what they're thinking is gonna happen but

[24:39:51] it would be ideal. Now before we go into this poll because I did

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[24:42:31] If you need to memorize something, like in this case if you have to like stay the sponsor, obviously we do know the sponsors

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[24:42:47] I make a song.

[24:42:48] A song?

[24:42:49] Yeah.

[24:42:50] Oh, that's interesting.

[24:42:51] If I have to memorize all listed things...

[24:42:52] Is it always different songs?

[24:42:53] No, it is the exact same song for everything I need to memorize.

[24:42:56] Okay, that is very cool.

[24:42:58] Yeah.

[24:42:59] Ever since so in sixth grade, our teacher made us learn the Greek alphabet.

[24:43:04] Oh, okay.

[24:43:05] And she used a song for that.

[24:43:07] And I used that song to memorize anything that has a listing tone into it.

[24:43:11] You should contact that teacher and tell her this.

[24:43:14] He's going to be very happy about it.

[24:43:16] Uh, Mrs. Randall.

[24:43:18] Thank you for this mnemonic technique.

[24:43:20] It is now enabling me to read off lists of sponsors.

[24:43:23] The only hard part is that the song is going in my head

[24:43:26] and I have to be careful not to sing while I'm doing it.

[24:43:29] Oh, I see.

[24:43:33] Next time maybe I'll sing our sponsor list

[24:43:36] in the tune of the Greek outlet song.

[24:43:39] This should be a...

[24:43:41] The only hard, yeah, I mean, what do you do?

[24:43:47] So I do this thing where I imagine like a physical space that I'm very familiar with, like my apartment or yeah.

[24:43:56] So like I open the door and then the way I did it for this time is like I open the door, there's a display on the floor and then there's a...

[24:44:05] Why wouldn't you create a wall?

[24:44:07] Well, because that's been a pop, right?

[24:44:10] So it's on the floor, and then there's a secret lab chair,

[24:44:13] then Jinji's sitting in it, which is gaze for gamers.

[24:44:16] Right, right.

[24:44:17] And then he's sitting on a desk where there's a Star Force

[24:44:21] we see.

[24:44:22] And then between the stars, Force PC and the computer

[24:44:25] screen, there's a wall.

[24:44:26] It's a NordVPN wall.

[24:44:29] Oh, OK.

[24:44:31] Yeah, it's just like, you know, like, secret, you know?

[24:44:33] Like, covering security, yeah.

[24:44:35] Like a NordVPN security screen.

[24:44:37] Exactly. And then I had an easy time remembering a Gatham Corsair because you know it's just a keyboard and it's a speaker and Maxwell was on the screen then.

[24:44:49] Like a guide was up on the screen.

[24:44:52] Yeah. So the Memory Palace is a very famous mnemonic tool that people have talked about. I've tried it but I can't do it.

[24:44:58] Oh really?

[24:44:59] It doesn't work for me because it's gonna sound really funny. I have a horrible spatial awareness.

[24:45:06] I get lost all the time. I can't keep track of where I am in turn. So when I go through my memory palace, I get lost.

[24:45:12] Oh really? Well, that's why I put it in very small spaces though.

[24:45:15] I don't, I don't, because memory palace usually is you go through the rooms.

[24:45:19] Yeah, you walk through several rooms. I also have very bad orientation and stuff like that.

[24:45:24] So I really have it like in shorter space. Like it's just open door and it's all there.

[24:45:28] Is this room like something, an actual room from your childhood or from your life where you go to your bedroom?

[24:45:33] Like this time it was my office, yeah and sometimes just my apartment and just like that the first like area

[24:45:39] It's all there as I look in I can see it all like immediately. I might try that you should try the song

[24:45:57] That's a song I use it for everything

[24:45:59] but I'm glad you still remember all of those break-in laughs.

[24:46:03] Yeah, I've gotten a lot of use from that.

[24:46:04] Thanks, Mrs. Randall.

[24:46:05] Those Greek alphabet really, really valuable.

[24:46:07] That is so cool.

[24:46:08] I love that.

[24:46:09] It's very cool.

[24:46:12] It's Play the God of Corsair and Starford.

[24:46:15] You just put it in that chain and it works.

[24:46:16] And then you just remember it.

[24:46:18] But then you have to say, Nordic Vien,

[24:46:20] Secret Lab, Starford, and not Simba Song.

[24:46:23] I see the problem here.

[24:46:28] Yeah.

[24:46:29] And then usually when I do the mind panels thing, I also like this and I didn't do it too much, except for Genji, but sometimes it's easy to forget, it's just if it's too normal.

[24:46:38] So sometimes I imagine it like for example, it's like a super oversized display that is, because then I remember the room and it's like, why, and I go in, it's like, why is there, it's huge just like in there?

[24:46:48] Because there's one?

[24:46:49] Yeah.

[24:46:50] What about, what about like a really big CineTar mouth?

[24:46:53] Yeah, yeah, yeah, it has to be like that for you to, for it to be memorable because otherwise you might just forget about it.

[24:46:59] It doesn't work for the XXL mousepad because they are in fact that large.

[24:47:04] You're like a super tiny one.

[24:47:08] A huge mouse on a tiny mousepad. You can't even see it.

[24:47:11] Yeah, okay.

[24:47:14] Comp staying stable as they learn how to do the fight.

[24:47:17] How long will this wine time extend, always the question?

[24:47:23] It is lunchtime.

[24:47:24] It's very soon lunchtime.

[24:47:25] I think it'll pull the boss once.

[24:47:26] Well, guess we got it.

[24:47:27] It's 12 minutes.

[24:47:28] They normally do their lunch at 11.30, which is in 12 minutes.

[24:47:32] Will we get a free lunchtime?

[24:47:33] Well, I would love to, because then we could get some data from it, right?

[24:47:35] I'm curious about a lot of things.

[24:47:37] Damage, obviously how far they go.

[24:47:39] The two tank strategy, how they're handling those tank swaps, whether the shield has

[24:47:42] been reduced, DPS relative to boss helpers.

[24:47:44] A lot of great data we're going to be acquiring.

[24:47:46] I could talk through the boss a little bit.

[24:47:48] Because it is possible that there are some people here that maybe haven't seen this boss before.

[24:47:52] Even if they're orange.

[24:47:53] Yeah.

[24:47:54] We can pretend that they don't know.

[24:47:56] Chat being our chat being the smartest, most sophisticated best gamers in the world.

[24:48:00] Many of them have already killed this boss.

[24:48:02] Yeah.

[24:48:03] Probably don't need to explain it.

[24:48:04] But we can do that anyway and they'll indulge us, right?

[24:48:07] They'll pretend to learn so that we have the opportunity to fill the silence with

[24:48:10] our eardition and intelligence and the fact that we have successfully memorized all of these boss mechanics.

[24:48:15] I think that that's a great point.

[24:48:17] So obviously this boss has two bosses, the bosses share health, that's one important thing to note.

[24:48:23] So there's some such thing as one that boss died earlier, or that you have to switch back and forth.

[24:48:28] So that is already important to know. And then each boss has different mechanics in phase one.

[24:48:33] You do have the main mechanic from the Scarab dude, which is the ride boss.

[24:48:38] That one will eventually go to the corner of the room and charge through the middle, which has to be stopped by the players.

[24:48:44] and it's actually a mechanic from skin spinner from the other boss that allows you to do that by spawning these kind of like

[24:48:49] Wap these yeah spider webs spider webs on the floor

[24:48:53] You have to pick them up by having two players go close to it or into it

[24:48:56] And then you will be tethered to that person and you have to use that tether to make you have to

[24:49:02] Make sure it's across the charge of the scarab dude, and then if you have at least three of these

[24:49:09] tethers then the boss will be interrupted and it will be a damaging

[24:49:13] percent of us 100% which increase in fact and if you don't interrupt it then

[24:49:18] the boss will charge towards the wall and will basically waver it yeah that's

[24:49:26] absolutely true so that's that's phase one there's a lot going on in the

[24:49:29] background we'll talk about phase one now and the mid phase two later because

[24:49:32] there's a lot more to explore here so that was a great explanation now the

[24:49:36] mythic mechanic changes it a little bit because when the boss fight starts you

[24:49:40] have a few seconds to go next to one of the bosses one will be red one will be

[24:49:44] purple and you have to soak that circle around them in order to acquire the same

[24:49:48] color only 10 people can get one color you can't have 11 12 or 13 get the

[24:49:52] same color so you have to split the raid 10 and 10 10 red 10 purple after

[24:49:56] that red and purple cannot touch if you're a red player you touch purple

[24:50:00] player you both die you get a you get a killing blow called the trail

[24:50:03] and you just become instantly deceased because you've been betrayed by a so-called friend.

[24:50:08] Much like these two hate each other, they're setting it up so that you guys hate your own rate.

[24:50:11] After that, periodically, the boss's mechanics will spawn orbs.

[24:50:16] With if you're a red player, you drop a red orb. If you're a blue player, you drop a blue orb.

[24:50:19] Those don't interact with you at all. If you're a red player, you drop a red orb.

[24:50:23] That red orb is never going to do anything to you. If you soak it, it doesn't go away.

[24:50:26] It doesn't give you a dot. If you fail to soak it when it's loaded, it doesn't hurt you.

[24:50:29] You only get hurt by the opposite color. So when red players drop red orbs,

[24:50:32] the purple players have to soak those orbs. If they don't soak it, everyone that's is that color

[24:50:38] gets a stack of a debuff. So if a red orb goes unsoked, every purple player gets a stack of a

[24:50:42] debuff. If that debuff hits three, you all die. If you soak the orb, the one person who's soaked

[24:50:47] it gets a debuff, and if he goes to three, he dies. Which means that at any point, if you

[24:50:51] miss an orb, the ten people that were supposed to soak all of the orbs now all have one,

[24:50:56] and you can soak ten fewer orbs than you otherwise could have been, which means one

[24:51:01] missed orb in the intermission can be a wipe because everyone gets too many stacks and dies.

[24:51:06] Interestingly, when you do the web mechanic in phase one in order to draw the webs across the

[24:51:11] path of the beetle in order to stop him from charging, soaking that web creates an orb of each

[24:51:16] color. So the players have to soak the web in order to come tether together. That spawns an

[24:51:21] orb and then they have to rotate around to soak each other's orbs while stretching the

[24:51:27] web to stop the charge. During early pulls they were doing that very very early. Get the web,

[24:51:31] soak the orbs, make sure we have enough time, and then stop the charge. They've tightened that

[24:51:35] timing significantly over the several pulls they did yesterday to the point where now they're

[24:51:39] just barely have enough time to soak, rotate, and then stop. Which makes this really cool kind

[24:51:44] of orbital interaction. Yeah and for this to be able to be done, they are basically,

[24:51:51] they have to tether with like opposing color to players, right? So it's one red player

[24:51:55] is tethering themselves with a blue player to be able to soak each other's orbs that you're creating

[24:52:01] when you get tethered, which is a very cool strategy because initially when I was playing this boss on

[24:52:05] beta testing I was thinking yeah obviously you're gonna pick up the player the orbs with the same

[24:52:11] color so you can touch another player yeah but yeah you don't actually have to be so close when

[24:52:16] you pick up the tether so it's actually a very smart idea to have those opposing colors

[24:52:21] Yeah that way you can handle it just in your pair instead of having to coordinate with another pair.

[24:52:26] They do a similar thing in the intermission where you have, so the way this is going to work is

[24:52:29] you're going to have two groups in melee, which requires the vast majority of the raid,

[24:52:33] rotating around purple and red, and then your satellite groups of two, three groups of two

[24:52:38] on the outside. So here we're going into a pull, shroud goes up to help everyone get closer,

[24:52:41] you get a weak aura saying get either blue or red, everyone gets close to get these orbs

[24:52:45] if you fail to get that, you will die and not even be resable. Now everyone has those

[24:52:50] colors are going to go into phase one's first mechanic, which is a venomous volley.

[24:52:54] Everyone's going to get a green circle around them, they need to spread out, that puts a

[24:52:57] dot on them, and it spawns the first set of orbs on everyone.

[24:53:01] And you're going to see the entire group rotate around in order to soak one or two,

[24:53:08] but not three of these orbs before the sword over the orb hits the orb.

[24:53:12] When that sword of Democles hits the orb, it explodes, applying to everyone.

[24:53:17] one there on the web that needs to be picked up as we already have two deaths at the start of this

[24:53:21] pull and they're exploded and we'll get another stack that kills Revis as well. Yeah so what happened

[24:53:27] here very likely is that Frago and hopeful were a pair that are supposed to pick up the tether and

[24:53:35] I think they probably just went a little bit too close to each other and blew up which means that

[24:53:40] they were not able to continue to fight anyway because if they lose that tether pair it's

[24:53:45] it's basically why they're not going to be able to stop the boss anymore so yeah

[24:53:49] that is how that phase one works now in the intermissions are a little bit

[24:53:53] different so in the intermission one boss just disappears and the other one

[24:53:58] casts like a special mechanic on the first intermission you have skin

[24:54:01] spinner that is the boss that is active while the scarab lord is gone and

[24:54:07] skin spinner just stands in the middle of the room and starts throwing out

[24:54:11] these webs in kind of like pizza slices and it's random how she throws them out

[24:54:16] they do eventually cover the whole room but in a staggered fashion so we able to

[24:54:19] to dodge them accordingly and the way they have been dealing with that

[24:54:23] mechanic is that oh there's also pulsing damage in that base that does spawn

[24:54:28] moat this is very important because these moat of course as we talked about

[24:54:32] earlier have to be soaked but opposing colored team so you have two camps

[24:54:36] camps basically that are on different sides of the room and then when you spawn the moats

[24:54:42] you're rotating around very similar to Sirenathry's last phase on Mythic and then you soak the

[24:54:48] other team's orbs which can sometimes be really close depending on how the pizza slides are

[24:54:52] responding and while this is all happening the boss doesn't have a shield that they have

[24:54:57] to nuke through and the longer this shield is up the more damage you're taking from

[24:55:01] the pulse of damage in this phase but that is kind of like the soft kind of end

[24:55:04] rage off the intermission phase is that you just need to at some point just you

[24:55:08] won't be able to survive the damage anymore but other than that that phase

[24:55:11] technically does last almost forever but yeah there's basically an opportunity for

[24:55:17] the rage to say okay we're gonna stop damage because we need some cooldowns to

[24:55:21] be back up for that phase if there's if the damage that is incoming to the

[24:55:25] raid is still healable then they can technically delay the intermissions for

[24:55:28] a little bit because the end rage of this fight is actually only based off of

[24:55:32] phase three. So he can stay in phase one, phase two and conditions us technically as long as you

[24:55:37] want, as long as you're able to deal with the mechanics and the incoming damage. Can we go to

[24:55:41] Penguin Disco POV and ranged POV here so we can watch them pick up this web mechanic because

[24:55:46] as this burrow is cast, the boss is going to get ready for charge, they're going to pop those

[24:55:50] webs, get their orb soaked as they look at around and then stretch across. Oh no, he went too

[24:55:55] far, broke his web and the boss was able to charge it very, very close to being perfect,

[24:55:59] But as you can see, it's a delicate operation. First, the boss cast burrow, which means they have about five seconds of the charge.

[24:56:05] They break the webs on the ground, giving them the binding.

[24:56:07] Rotate around each other to soak each other's orbs, and then stretch it.

[24:56:10] But there, he was bound to someone who I believe blinked across, and he was just positioned slightly too far for the blink,

[24:56:17] and ended up breaking the web. Because if you go too far, the web breaks.

[24:56:20] If you stay close enough, then it is stretched across the path of the beetle, and it destroys, it stops the beetle.

[24:56:27] What I'm wondering, Nugra, and I think you'll be able to answer this, is how is the web simultaneously

[24:56:35] strong enough to stop the Beatles' charge and yet so fragile that moving too far apart

[24:56:40] breaks it?

[24:56:41] Could you describe to me the mathematical physics of this tensile strength?

[24:56:45] Yes, so.

[24:56:46] No, but it makes sense because obviously the longer you stretch it out, right, like

[24:56:56] something that is stronger when it's less stretched and the further you

[24:57:01] stretch it out the weaker it gets. At some point it will snap but once it's

[24:57:06] in the not-snap position, it will be very close for it. If you're just

[24:57:14] one centimeter before it breaks I would kind of assume that it should

[24:57:18] technically be not so strong for it to stop. But we do know that of course

[24:57:25] other than this fact the game obviously always follows all of the loss of physics

[24:57:31] except for this tether here all right so we're getting ready for the burrow so we

[24:57:36] see our pairs collecting those webs rotating around us of the orbs and then

[24:57:40] we'll stretch across this is attempt number three I see two ebbs and ones

[24:57:44] behind us so it looks good the boss is gonna get stopped and stunned here now

[24:57:48] they don't have them stacked up for cleave during this double damage window

[24:57:52] which would have been ideal but of course that boss teleport so it can be

[24:57:54] difficult to arrange. Now interestingly here, the first set of dots from the first venom volley

[24:58:00] expires before the second set of dots comes down, but the third set comes down before this

[24:58:06] second set expires. So before the next venomous volley, you are going to see as many people as

[24:58:11] can immune, they pre-immune the application of the dot so that they don't have two stacks,

[24:58:17] because the two stacks tick for about a million damage every two seconds on everyone with

[24:58:22] two stacks so you see here ice blocks going out, turtles going out, bubble going out,

[24:58:27] ams going out so that only about half the raid has a double stack and of course when the venus

[24:58:31] volley comes out you also get a wave of orbs to soak there are three volleys in phase one and

[24:58:36] three waves of orbs we're now doing the second charge. Yeah second charge coming in,

[24:58:41] penguin disco moving on the other side while Jinji is trying to stay close so the tether

[24:58:46] does not break and they did indeed successfully stop the beetle from charging towards the

[24:58:51] well and doing damage to the whole raid and basically wiping them and they do have the

[24:58:54] extra damage increase here as well as we talked about 100% damage increase at a little bit

[24:58:58] of an awkward time here it's 155 into the boss fight which means that your 2 minutes

[24:59:04] are just barely not ready and you're staring at your 2 minutes like oh it would have just

[24:59:08] waited a little bit longer unfortunately you see 3 people go down here though, presumably

[24:59:13] a mythic mechanic in most death.

[24:59:15] Yeah that was a mythic mechanic death unfortunately so we are down a healer going into the

[24:59:20] admission which is going to make this much more difficult. You see those slices of web go out

[24:59:24] and every time the damage pulses a row of orbs is created by everyone. With two players down it's

[24:59:29] going to be very very hard to do this. In fact we have several deaths occurring already. If one

[24:59:33] orb is missed that sword above it hits the ground then everyone gets a stack and then you can't

[24:59:38] soak the orbs and they are working on this movement but it is not clean. Now when this

[24:59:43] pull ends I'm going to go over to the analyst desk and pull up a replay of one of yesterday's

[24:59:47] good pull so we can show all of the orbital mechanics of this physics-oriented fight. I think

[24:59:53] that would be fun to show because you can actually see them rotating around when it goes well,

[24:59:56] but a little bit of reprogression this morning. Yeah, it is also possible that they maybe are

[25:00:01] just changing some stuff in phase one that they came up with overnight. Maybe they saw a liquid

[25:00:07] do something different that they want to like maybe adapt to as well or at least give it a

[25:00:10] try and of course they're changing their comp a little bit with the two tankings. So

[25:00:14] some changes to this to their strut um and some people ask oh but why would you change the strategy

[25:00:22] when it worked for you the last time but sometimes optimizing a strategy to prevent um phase one wipes

[25:00:30] later on uh basically is the reason why you're like regressing for a little bit because then once

[25:00:36] you're used to this strategy if they think that this would be a more successful strategy later

[25:00:40] on a more consistent strategy. It does make a lot of sense. If they think, of course, it's

[25:00:45] valuable if they need to have that consistency in phase 1. Absolutely true. So I will be able,

[25:00:51] the next time they take a little break, or perhaps when they go to the lunch break,

[25:00:54] I can show the orbital mechanics. I don't want to miss a pull right now, because it'll take

[25:00:57] about 30 or 40 seconds to show exactly what's going on. Hopefully they are able to get that

[25:01:01] improved. We had an early death there. It was indeed, as we assume, to the mythic mechanic.

[25:01:06] There are other things that can kill you. The boss does a lot of damage, but yesterday and today's thus far

[25:01:12] The vast majority of deaths are to that mechanic on that occasion

[25:01:16] Fanner, Bello and Narco touched and they were not the same color if you're if you're it's everyone

[25:01:22] That's purple touches no problem

[25:01:23] But if purple touches red you died the three of them collided two minutes and five seconds in the fight causing a betrayal death

[25:01:29] Which has some great text on it, right? This is a very fun boss because they've explained

[25:01:33] And the reason why the Skynespinner's mechanics hinder the beetle and his mechanics hinder

[25:01:40] hers is because they hate each other.

[25:01:42] They're both advisors to Queen Anne's Strike, and they're vying with one another for power.

[25:01:46] So similarly, we each pick a camp and join their camp, and now we hate each other too.

[25:01:51] And when you touch the other camp, you get a betrayal kill, instant, unlimited range.

[25:01:56] Your so-called ally inflicts lethal damage upon you.

[25:01:59] So that's really, really fun.

[25:02:00] The Skynespinner, of course, spinning those webs, which we then used to stop the beetle,

[25:02:04] and the beetle puts out those stinging swarm insects that we then used in Phase 2 to stop the spider.

[25:02:10] I don't want to say as well, I guess, that this yesterday already is like...

[25:02:13] This Queen Ancerek, like, she really does not have her underlings under control.

[25:02:19] Like, first she has a spy, which of course, Princess Kavessa, that apparently we've seen too much,

[25:02:25] and that's why she's killing us, but her plan was to kill Queen Ancerek all along.

[25:02:28] And now we prevented her from from killing Queen Anzrakh, so like we're kind of helping the Queen here

[25:02:34] And now the two penultimate bosses here

[25:02:38] That are supposed to be her main advisors are fighting with each other and are not focusing on their task to

[25:02:45] Protect Queen Anzrakh because if Skynespringer would not be putting those webs out

[25:02:49] We would not be able to kill this boss and then we would not be able to reach Queen Anzrakh

[25:02:53] So yeah, Queen Anzrakh you need to like look at your employees

[25:02:57] This is horrible.

[25:02:59] Yep, unfortunately there we did have one of our ranged camp go down so the charge went

[25:03:03] through.

[25:03:04] We're sending three pairs of two out in the range in order to collect those webs.

[25:03:10] And if even one of them messes up, soaks an extra orb, touches each other so that they

[25:03:14] get portrayal and die, then you just don't have the webs in order to see it.

[25:03:18] Interestingly in phase three, so the structure of the fight is also very good.

[25:03:22] Borderline Shakespearean, I would say, right?

[25:03:24] Phase one, you're dealing with the beetle and his special mechanic, then you go into

[25:03:27] the intermission where Skynespinner empowers herself and now in phase two you're dealing

[25:03:31] with her and her special mechanic until you go into the intermission where the beetle empowers

[25:03:34] himself and then in phase three you're dealing with both of them.

[25:03:36] In phase three, interestingly enough, you have far more webs.

[25:03:40] Skynespinner pulls everyone to herself, you get webs from that, you can choose to

[25:03:44] break them or not, so you can come out of that with extra webs, a safety margin

[25:03:47] to stop.

[25:03:48] But in phase one, we're only using three, one of them goes down, it is a wipe

[25:03:52] inevitably. Unfortunately, as they are resting, it looks like they are definitely going to do at least

[25:03:59] one more pull. We are nearing that lunch break for the Echo players here, so we'll see how much longer

[25:04:06] they want to go. Of course, the lunch is going to stay here, no one's going to steal it. That's not

[25:04:10] true, I'm running off to get some right away. So they can delay the lunch break, but if they

[25:04:15] think they want to get some more pulls in, they want to see if the strategy that they're

[25:04:19] currently trying out or if the changes they made is worth it otherwise they might talk about it

[25:04:25] during lunch break. I think this is very very valuable for them to get the information in

[25:04:29] that they can discuss it during lunch break which technically it should be using to think about

[25:04:34] other things and like get their mind off but we all know they're going to be talking about the

[25:04:37] boss. Yeah especially as the race has heated up over the past few days the lunch break is full

[25:04:40] of everyone's speculation as to how the boss is killable what comp they want to try what

[25:04:44] strategy they want to try. So yeah that is happening a lot. As we do look like we're going in for

[25:04:50] another pull the shroud goes up, they advance closer, the week where it says get blue or red

[25:04:56] and it gives you a map of which one's which. Excellent, so you can't get lost. Picking up

[25:05:01] those blue orbs over on the left, those red orbs over on the right and then our two melee

[25:05:05] camps sit up on either side of the boss and prepare to rotate around. The tank mechanics

[25:05:11] Seemed to be going fairly well today after the changes. We have Meera's tanking boss for the first

[25:05:17] tank buster and then now taunting in order to take the second. Venomous rain coming down,

[25:05:22] healer's doing their good work as the two camps rotate around picking up two but not three. You

[25:05:27] see a weak ore pop up above Mini's timers glowing. That means he's picked up two if he picks

[25:05:33] up a third he will die and it doesn't glow until you have two so it lets you pick up

[25:05:37] both instead of just soaking one. We do have both Jinji and hopeful die which means we

[25:05:40] we're not going to be able to stop this charge and we have our fourth charge failure wipe

[25:05:45] in a row as we've had a little bit of a rough start to the morning.

[25:05:49] The melee laughing, because they don't have to do anything on this boss.

[25:05:52] It's like, not them ranged players, can't even put a tether across their room.

[25:05:58] Shameful.

[25:05:59] But yeah, I do think like, because people are probably wondering why, are they wiping

[25:06:03] to this mechanic?

[25:06:04] They've done this correctly multiple times, I still think that they're probably like

[25:06:07] optimizing something for the movement of the tether groups or tether pairs or like doing

[25:06:13] something last second to maybe optimize the damage because one thing to note about the

[25:06:17] tether pairs is that they're damage dealers, ranged damage dealers that are doing this

[25:06:20] mainly and as soon as you stop the charge the boss gets the damage increase.

[25:06:25] So if they have to like soak orbs after stopping the charge, if they have to do something

[25:06:30] after the charge it's not ideal.

[25:06:32] Like they want to make sure that all of the movement and all of the difficult parts

[25:06:36] are done before and then once the boss is stunned they want to be standing still and

[25:06:40] turning the boss to get the extra damage in so maybe there's something that they're

[25:06:43] optimizing there. Yeah also interesting that the the ranged pairs are dealing with

[25:06:48] extra orbs right everyone spawns an orb when they're hit by the venomous rain

[25:06:52] but then the melee camps are done whereas the ranged players spawn one

[25:06:56] both from the venomous rain and from soaking their webs so they always have

[25:06:59] to go to two if a single orb gets missed they will die because of that

[25:07:02] Which is actually what happened here. There was apparently one orb missed which hopeful and Jinji already had two stacks

[25:07:08] They therefore died to that instant touch of death

[25:07:13] They also take a lot of damage like we also have to note just how much damage it does to your character

[25:07:19] You have two stacks of that diva from soaking the modes actually a lot of damage

[25:07:22] Plus they're standing in the web for a little while here, which also does a little bit of taking damage

[25:07:26] So and they're further away

[25:07:28] Which means they're not gonna be getting some of the heels that are happening around the melee area and unfortunately, we do see

[25:07:35] Another hair go down again. Yep. So this is gonna be a failed charge and everyone's gonna die

[25:07:41] It is worth noting you can't simply blame the range for every single one of these errors

[25:07:45] Like like I said before if a melee group misses an orb and they will die to touch a death out there through no fault of their own

[25:07:51] That time however

[25:07:52] They opposite colors touched and that can't happen on this fight

[25:07:56] We're getting closer and closer to a potential lunch break

[25:07:58] But I think that the officers would love to have the eventuality where they'd gotten deeper into the fight

[25:08:03] And they can make sure that their strat adjustments are working before that happens

[25:08:06] So hopefully they continue pulling get everything under control and start getting some good pulls

[25:08:10] We are at 11 40 for a lunch break that normally happens around 11 30

[25:08:14] So at any point that could have a snack to be fair though, right?

[25:08:18] true. We do have one snack either between breakfast and lunch or between lunch and dinner

[25:08:25] but because they want to stop a little bit earlier today they did say hey could we have

[25:08:29] this snack between breakfast and lunch because we started early and there's just a longer break

[25:08:35] between breakfast and lunch so maybe they're not really hungry yet maybe they could be it's all

[25:08:40] of these I think it was breadsticks with like a dip it was like it was like pieces of bread

[25:08:46] They weren't really breadsticks, they were pieces of bread sliced into sticks and they had two different dips

[25:08:50] like a corn relish kind of dip and then another one made of beetroot.

[25:08:54] Yeah, beetroot won't look very interesting. I wanted to try it but I had breakfast not as early as

[25:09:03] the writers had and I was thinking okay I'm gonna keep my... I'm gonna wait for lunch because the

[25:09:09] lunch and the dinners and of course the breakfast are always delicious. Julia is cooking up for us

[25:09:13] here yes so I want to make sure that I'm so

[25:09:16] happy for it I can eat all of that lunch

[25:09:18] being well taken care of by the several

[25:09:20] private chefs here at the SK gaming

[25:09:22] magenta facility in Cologne

[25:09:24] excellent taking care of all the raiders

[25:09:26] and I know that everyone's looking

[25:09:26] forward to that lunch

[25:09:28] okay so we're back in range

[25:09:29] watching Jinji puv as they get ready to

[25:09:31] get the webs everyone alive thus far

[25:09:34] they now need to do that a little

[25:09:35] rotation soak the orbs

[25:09:37] we got to three stacks there was an

[25:09:38] orb missed in melee there

[25:09:40] that that was no fault of Jinji's

[25:09:42] right he soaked the two orbs he was

[25:09:43] supposed to, but one orb in the melee group did not end up getting soaked, which means that he gets

[25:09:48] to three stacks through no fault of his own and dies, therefore they cannot stop the charge.

[25:09:54] I'm wondering what Scrab is looking at. Like does he have a screen up there?

[25:09:57] Yes. Okay. Scrab is a multi-multi-screen gamer and he has logs up above on the screen above him.

[25:10:05] For a second, I think there's a screen there, or that's just thinking.

[25:10:08] Or he's praying, right?

[25:10:09] No, look, like, looking to above for some guidance.

[25:10:13] Maybe that's, like, what he thinks very, like, deeply.

[25:10:15] Maybe he just looks up, you know?

[25:10:17] Or maybe after you see something disappointing him for the fifth time in a row, it's just like,

[25:10:20] the dad looking your eyes up.

[25:10:22] Oh, no. He's not rolling his eyes.

[25:10:24] He's not casting his eyes to the heavens.

[25:10:26] He is, in fact, looking at replays and logs.

[25:10:28] They have an internal review tool they use,

[25:10:30] syncing the logs with the vods that we've been able to use a little bit

[25:10:33] to show you guys what's been going on as well, which has been very nice.

[25:10:36] They use that to check exactly what happened.

[25:10:38] would happen so probably checking where was the orb that got missed who should

[25:10:42] probably have soaked it right they this is the mythic mechanic of the fight

[25:10:46] these orb spawning from most of the significant events they spawned three

[25:10:49] times from the men of venomous rain in phase one they spawned three times

[25:10:52] during the first intermission as they take three pulses of damage if they

[25:10:55] took a fourth another set would spawn and then they continue to spawn in

[25:10:58] phase two in the second mission that's like the fundamental mechanic of the

[25:11:01] fight that requires a lot of coordination because you have to deal with

[25:11:04] all of the mechanics, while also dodging your opposite colors and rotating around just up

[25:11:10] the opposite colored orbs. And that needs to be cleaned up, or you're not going to be

[25:11:15] able to deal with it happening again and again and again repeatedly throughout the fight.

[25:11:18] So everyone needs to make sure that they're watching for those, soaking the correct number,

[25:11:22] the weak ores are well positioned, such that you know, okay, I have two, I can't do a third.

[25:11:26] We've also seen lots of pings, the ping system coming in clutch as people will spam ping and

[25:11:30] orb that doesn't get soaked. We had several people yesterday making mistakes because the

[25:11:34] orbs over their head look identical to the orbs on the ground. The main difference, if you're

[25:11:39] trying to keep track and chat, whether the orb that hasn't been soaked is a real orb or a dead

[25:11:45] body, is look for the sword. If it's a real orb, there's a sword of Democles hanging over it,

[25:11:50] slowly dropping, and when that sword hits the orb, it explodes. So those are the

[25:11:54] indication that it's a real orb that requires soaking instead of someone's orbs.

[25:11:58] I do wish it would change that so that when a player is dead, the animation also disappears

[25:12:04] because it is very distracting once there is a dead body and a foreign orb sitting there.

[25:12:10] But of course the debuff pierces through death, so that's probably why the animation is still there.

[25:12:17] There we go, we are about to get that charge. Again, you can see the ranged

[25:12:22] groups are picking up those webs in just a moment. There it is, and now they have to

[25:12:26] soak the orbs and get into position making sure no other orbs is getting missed that looks good so far

[25:12:33] burst window everyone popping cooldowns if they have them available 40 seconds into the fight which

[25:12:37] is a very very weird timing doing as much damage as possible killing off the beetles the beetles

[25:12:42] another little mechanic on this fight we've seen them on heroic on normal but on mythic they have

[25:12:46] a couple extra mechanics they spawn with an additional 80% damage reduction we do unfortunately

[25:12:51] lose both thaner and narco i believe that was too a betrayal we have a combat res so thaner

[25:12:55] is going to come back up because you cannot do the intermission down one healer.

[25:12:59] Yeah, the Beatles are another mechanic in this fight that required damage.

[25:13:02] They spawn with 80% damage taken reduced, so you can't kill them very, very fast.

[25:13:06] And then they fixate on someone and do damage to that person until killed later on when

[25:13:10] they don't die as quickly.

[25:13:11] That becomes a severe problem because they escalate their speed and become un-CC-able

[25:13:16] and do a lot of damage.

[25:13:17] Didn't you blink, you have to get that sword of Damocles orb spawning?

[25:13:21] He's dead.

[25:13:22] Can you use any type of CCs on these scarabs?

[25:13:25] You can use basically any CC until they reach 100 Energy and become un-CCable.

[25:13:29] Can you use Cyclone?

[25:13:30] I don't know.

[25:13:32] Okay, we do have the second damage increase here in the boss, so another successful Intrap

[25:13:37] by the tech team of those tethers of the webs.

[25:13:42] And there we go, we are nuking the boss with another damage increase, and that means

[25:13:44] we're going to be in that intermission very soon.

[25:13:48] Yeah, this has been a successful pull thus far.

[25:13:51] One person dead, that's alright, not a healer.

[25:13:53] narco. We've done it with that narco before. We can do it again. Going into the admission,

[25:13:59] you will see the boss cast this Shatter Existence and they will take pulses of damage every few

[25:14:03] seconds, while those pulses of damage also spawn orbs that must be soaked. So now you see that

[25:14:08] stat going up to one stack. In a moment the next one comes through and you get a second stack.

[25:14:13] Each one doing more damage. Cush and clicks both going down. Maevoker as well. Not quite

[25:14:19] worked out exactly how they're going to rotate around and get all of these soaks or picking

[25:14:22] up too much orbs as they go. Another couple of people go down including Velo. So a healer out means

[25:14:28] that it's going to be even more difficult. This is definitely not as smooth as some of their

[25:14:31] animations yesterday where we came out with everyone alive. Things need to be worked out here.

[25:14:35] Several orbs about to go off at once and everyone that's read is going to die as a result. Pop

[25:14:40] touch of death dead. Also unable to break the shield which means we're taking a fourth and

[25:14:44] even a fifth stack here which is deadly. I just love this POV. Like if you don't know what

[25:14:50] what the mythic mechanic does here,

[25:14:51] because there's like, we have four ranged, two each,

[25:14:55] and it looks like, if you wouldn't know the mythic mechanic,

[25:14:58] it really looks like they don't know

[25:14:59] how to play the games, like how do I move?

[25:15:01] Like, the keyboard turning left and right,

[25:15:02] like moving very slowly,

[25:15:03] like being a little bit disoriented,

[25:15:05] but it really is because they're moving very slowly

[25:15:08] and predictably to make sure the players

[25:15:11] from the opposing color

[25:15:12] are not accidentally gonna walk into them.

[25:15:14] We do successfully get out of the admission

[25:15:16] for the first time today with five or six people alive,

[25:15:19] that's going to be a quick wipe.

[25:15:21] But a little bit of progress being made,

[25:15:22] they need to look at the intermission and improve that.

[25:15:26] I agree, especially with this player POV,

[25:15:29] it can be hard to really see what's going on.

[25:15:31] It looks like players kind of milling around,

[25:15:33] almost aimlessly.

[25:15:35] Which is why I really like the Warcraft Logs overview.

[25:15:37] You get this bird's eye view,

[25:15:38] and you can see it turn into

[25:15:40] almost a solar system of orbits occurring.

[25:15:42] It's very, very pretty.

[25:15:43] That's what I want to show, chat.

[25:15:44] As soon as we are assured that I can do that

[25:15:46] for about 30 seconds without missing any of a pull,

[25:15:48] Because at any point they might take a little break and that's when I'll show you.

[25:15:51] Or at any point they might have a good pull that we see fairly far.

[25:15:53] And as they continue to work out the Kings we are of course doing this with a new comp.

[25:15:57] The one tank strategy from yesterday no longer viable.

[25:16:00] So we've brought Robin back in and we are two tanking once again.

[25:16:03] And we're sticking to this because we've seen a lot of Guardian Druid being played.

[25:16:08] But this time around we're sticking to Black DK which makes sense because groups of course vary valuable on this fight for those Scarabs.

[25:16:16] which means that they have to get another player in for the Magda Wild, which in this case is Kha'Nix

[25:16:20] on that Moonkin, and then we have that double Frost Decay for additional grips

[25:16:25] for those Skares as well, making it a lot more easier to deal with those adds,

[25:16:30] making sure to just get them onto the boss to stun them, and then once that damage decrease

[25:16:36] is not that high anymore, they can just passively cleave them down.

[25:16:39] Yeah, absolutely. It's really funny. I think Kha'Nix is definitely the Cinderella story

[25:16:44] of this entire race world first tier. He spent most of Heroic Week being mean tier. Druids are useless,

[25:16:51] we're not going to use any. Started the tier with a Guardian being brought to bring the Mark of the

[25:16:55] Wild that's considered basically the least bad Druid that you could bring in for that mandatory

[25:17:00] buff. But then coming into Tank as a Guardian on Brew Twister for an entire day, didn't get told,

[25:17:05] sorry that you used all your Valor stones on Tank here. Turns out we do need you to be

[25:17:09] a boomkin the next day. Benched for the start of Kaiveza, then brought back in to provide

[25:17:13] Mark of the Wild after they go to the solo tank strat and now coming back in for this one. So Kenix,

[25:17:17] Cinderella's story, no one saw this coming, but he's been performing well here at his first

[25:17:21] venue, Race to World First, doing a phenomenal job, remaining in high spirits as he continues to

[25:17:27] perform, getting a little bit of an inspeculate from Mirrors.

[25:17:30] 622 item level with Bastanslock Trinket as well, I mean not too bad, pretty good.

[25:17:35] And his damage is pretty good.

[25:17:37] This can is moving closer and closer to the middle of his camp UV.

[25:17:41] It started off as a very upward looking cam. It was on the side and then he moved it close

[25:17:49] and close and close. I wouldn't call it, I think it's now CAN POV. This isn't a canyx anymore.

[25:18:03] This is just a can. The X is gone. We could put the boomkin wings on this can and it would be

[25:18:09] the canyx POV we've all been dreaming of. Excellent memes coming out from Chris. Going

[25:18:15] into another poll here it's gonna go pretty much the same we're just waiting to see if everyone

[25:18:19] soaks their orbs doesn't get up a trail and then the ranged camp can handle their job correctly so

[25:18:24] i'd love to go back out to a ranged pov to make sure that we handle this burrow correctly first

[25:18:30] of venomous rain then the burrow now the burrow actually does a lot of damage on its own if

[25:18:34] you watch the raid frames it hurts very very bad even before the charge which then does lethal

[25:18:39] damage on top of it so the burrow is gonna come out the ranged players are picking up their

[25:18:43] webs getting them soaking each other's orbs trying not to break those change as

[25:18:47] they drag it across the boss all three present look successful we're gonna stop

[25:18:52] the boss right on top of those scarabs going into the double damage phase can

[25:18:56] it's popping convoke and tunneling as much damage as you possibly can

[25:19:00] interestingly the adside kind of at the same time as the damage amp which

[25:19:03] may help us convoke a little bit actually convoked the pool now so

[25:19:06] did he that's been that's a significant change I do think the

[25:19:10] unless they're out there working on exactly how to maximize everyone's cooldowns, whether it's worth the

[25:19:14] lane for this burn phase or worth the lane for that burn phase. The Skynespinner just spam casting

[25:19:20] poison bolt, unmovable. The tanks cannot move her, she teleports wherever she wants and then spams

[25:19:24] poison bolt as a tank putting that stacking poison dot on mirrors, which requires a dispel from either

[25:19:29] your poison cleansing totems or your evoker or your paladin or your druid even, but they're

[25:19:35] handling that just fine. We just saw the double ice block come in from, hopefully I did you hear,

[25:19:39] preventing the venom rain damage on them which subsequently also prevents the

[25:19:44] maltram spawning. Yeah it's actually very very good tech and about a third of the

[25:19:47] raid amuses that round to make all of that damage reduced right before

[25:19:51] the second burrow which they have done correctly. Everyone alive going into the

[25:19:55] second burn phase on our beetle and new barrage. Bossed around 80% as we'll

[25:20:01] be going soon into the intermission. The beetle is going to burrow away and

[25:20:04] become unhittable. The Sky and Spinner will teleport into the middle

[25:20:08] and then she will be doing her intermission here in this moment as I was

[25:20:12] there yet she teleports around wherever she wants and you can't do anything with

[25:20:15] her so the goal at all times is to try to manipulate it such that the beetle is

[25:20:19] charging onto her or being able to be pulled onto her for cleave damage which

[25:20:22] is very valuable we instantly have canyx and rison going down looks like of a

[25:20:25] trail death there Frago going down as well to some kind of damage you see

[25:20:30] we see hopeful has two stacks of the dock can't soak the sword but he goes

[25:20:33] to three and dies it was about to hit and hit everyone so we sacrifice

[25:20:36] themselves there, throw themselves under the sword. So four dead now as we are in this

[25:20:41] transition. We are now at two stacks about to get our third and trying to break it at

[25:20:46] that third stack before getting a fourth. Shield at 22%. Yes definitely still some

[25:20:53] optimization going on here. They can of course continue this progression as they

[25:20:58] manage to get through this shield but it's just so much damage coming in. That fourth stack is just

[25:21:02] the increasing AoE damage numbers because of the shield not breaking and in addition you also have

[25:21:07] all of these orbs that you have to soak a lot of double dots on players so just so much damage

[25:21:12] mirrors and now now that which means they won't be able to continue this try unfortunately not

[25:21:18] going to be able to see phase two more often but yeah definitely went through phase one much

[25:21:25] cleaner this summer so that's the consistency that we're looking for and now some of the

[25:21:31] the optimizations that they have figured out for the intermission still just have to be executed to

[25:21:37] see further into the fight again. Yep, absolutely true. Still a better exit out of phase one. Phase

[25:21:43] one done perfectly that time. That was good to see. Now we just need to keep working through the

[25:21:46] remainder of the fight. I think a good goal is to get to that first AoE grip in phase two to

[25:21:53] make sure that your strategy there is really good. When we go into phase two and the Skyrim

[25:21:57] Spinner comes out empowered. She has two major mechanics. First, she'll grip everyone of one color

[25:22:01] toward her and they'll drop orbs as they fly and then she'll one second later grip everyone of the

[25:22:06] other color to her and you want to both pre-position in such a way that you're not going to intersect

[25:22:11] and run away in such a way that you're not going to intersect and also have those orbs spawning

[25:22:16] in such a position that they're relatively easy to immediately soak. So that's a that is a

[25:22:20] big challenge. They did execute a couple times yesterday and then that takes you to the

[25:22:23] second main mechanic of phase two which is the beetle will put dots on five people and

[25:22:28] they need to be spelled on to the spider within a 10 second window but we do see that lunch

[25:22:33] break timer go up so I do want to show off the orbital mechanics of the fight if you

[25:22:36] will indulge me before we go get our own lunch I am pulling up the Warcraft Logs

[25:22:41] tool and I'm going to press play for half an hour now.

[25:22:46] It's actually so cool from a bird's eye view I really love it get your Coggers

[25:22:48] ready in the chat because we're going to start rotating I'm going to show you

[25:22:51] three different times. So in phase one, the venomous rain happens, spawning an orb everywhere,

[25:22:57] and then these players just get spinning and spiraling around the boss.

[25:23:02] That's round one. Another one occurs at approximately 50 seconds into the fight,

[25:23:07] then it's the rain coming down, and then we go swirling around, and then again, at 124 or so,

[25:23:16] So we're off to the side around the spider boss.

[25:23:19] Get ready to spin.

[25:23:20] They stack up in preparation, rotating.

[25:23:23] Very nice.

[25:23:24] And then, yeah, a little bit, a little bit awkward there.

[25:23:27] I do also want to show the intermission, because they had a couple of missions yesterday

[25:23:33] where it went fairly well.

[25:23:34] So here we are going to the mission spider teleports to the middle.

[25:23:37] You have a melee group on each side, and then you have four pairs of ranged groups

[25:23:42] kind of in the spokes around the edge.

[25:23:44] You're going to see people rotating around trying to dodge the cones while soaking each

[25:23:49] other's orbs.

[25:23:51] And it looks like this miniature solar system with different systems rotating around one

[25:23:55] another.

[25:23:56] Yeah, we can now tell the difference between what they're trying to do now and its emission

[25:24:01] versus what they did yesterday.

[25:24:03] They now, instead of trying to make four pairs of two with the range, they tried

[25:24:07] to make two pairs of four, which I'm not sure why, they're changing maybe for

[25:24:12] healing purposes, maybe for other reasons, to not be too spread out, maybe it's also just

[25:24:16] uptime things.

[25:24:17] But yeah, that has been causing some issues, because obviously there's two players you

[25:24:22] have to avoid now in your range camp compared to just having to focus on one other player,

[25:24:27] and they are just getting used to that and some of the changes in phase one as well,

[25:24:31] of course.

[25:24:32] Absolutely.

[25:24:33] That illustrating kind of the orbit as they go, the other thing happening in that

[25:24:35] phase is just an overwhelming amount of rate damage, right?

[25:24:37] the non-sub pulses from the boss as she continues to ramp that damage up until you break the shield.

[25:24:43] And because the orbs are spawning so much more frequently than they did in phase one,

[25:24:46] you have much higher dot damage. Every time you soak an orb you get a stacking dot,

[25:24:50] and it does a lot of damage. So the healer is trying to blast as much as possible.

[25:24:53] Min maxing, the extent to which everyone is in range, is going to be a big part of the strategy.

[25:24:57] But they have started their 30-minute lunch break, which means that we also will go do lunch.

[25:25:02] We want to be back here doing pulls with you as soon as they start again. So

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[25:55:51] and the guys are set to murder some spiders.

[25:55:54] Oh yeah.

[25:55:55] This is gonna be a good day.

[25:55:56] They have done all of their chores this morning.

[25:55:58] Apparently there's nothing more to do,

[25:56:00] but so they say.

[25:56:01] It's solely lies, but hopefully we can use these next few hours to get some amazing pools in on the silicon core

[25:56:07] Which liquid my should take down in the early hours here. I think it was late in there. It was such a good kill

[25:56:12] It was a beautiful kill very good. I really I shouldn't say this

[25:56:16] But I was really hoping they kill it because they deserved it

[25:56:19] They were pushing and pushing and pushing and I was watching them and then they got a little frustrated

[25:56:23] And then they got into the groove again, and they were like laser focused

[25:56:27] So GGs to the guys are getting it down that would have been a rough night's sleep

[25:56:30] Oh, it certainly would have been it really would have been but you've got us for the next three or four hours

[25:56:34] Or so as we're going to be going through echoes prog they've been spending a lot of time doing a lot of talking

[25:56:39] Completely unlike echo. I'm sure you'll agree. Yeah, no beam time going on over here

[25:56:43] It's a lot of bad. I had a little this fight is all about micro changes that we it's got to be sort of impossible for us to

[25:56:50] Relate to you how many of them are happening is that it's all about like being slightly here

[25:56:56] slightly there, a little bit here, lots and lots of this is a very we call it

[25:57:01] synchronized swimming yesterday. It feels like that it's all about like

[25:57:06] baiting in the exact right position because they're gonna have to do this

[25:57:09] later and when it all works well it looks so pretty. It really does it's one

[25:57:13] of those beautiful looking fights similar to a little bit how Clive Vesla was

[25:57:18] also a fight that once it went correctly it looked really really nice

[25:57:21] obviously the intermissions were absolute chaos but like the main

[25:57:25] phase where you're like having the ads all gelge around in very geometric sort of patterns.

[25:57:28] It's also similar here. Gives me massive hell of your vibes. Gives me almost star walk

[25:57:32] of eyes as well. It's not a little bit describing us, but it seems like this is hellier 2.0 for me.

[25:57:35] Yeah, in terms of just this very, very precise dance with all of these different overlaps. But

[25:57:40] it turned out that this fight generally just seems to be, there's like 10 or so overlaps

[25:57:44] that you need to just know how you're doing in each of those different dances. And once

[25:57:47] you know that movement system, doesn't seem to be necessarily too difficult. They just got

[25:57:52] I've got to repeat it, obviously how many pools are there now?

[25:57:55] 105?

[25:57:56] So they've still got a long way to go in terms of getting anywhere near the pinnacle of how

[25:58:02] much they can optimize this fight and how much more comfy they can get, only spending a

[25:58:06] few of those 105 pools in the last phase.

[25:58:08] So looking for some big jumps in Proc today, I think that they can do it especially after

[25:58:12] seeing Liquid Kill it.

[25:58:13] I mean, this fight is going back to why we call it Hellier for those of you

[25:58:16] who weren't there for that.

[25:58:17] Hellier was entirely on rails.

[25:58:18] You could predict every moment, every movement, and it was very much like go to A, go to B,

[25:58:23] go to C, go to D, go to A, go to B, and it just cycled around in a very specific pattern

[25:58:28] of play.

[25:58:30] This is very, very similar, and it's about getting everybody on the same page, getting

[25:58:34] them all into the complete synchronization so they're all looking out for each other,

[25:58:39] they're all making sure they know, and repetition is important here, so you know

[25:58:44] when you go left sometimes there's somebody who might be a bit slower, there might

[25:58:48] be lingering there so I actually want to go left and back and that needs to happen every

[25:58:51] single pole over and over again and then you learn the intricacies of what the rest of

[25:58:56] your raid team are doing because everybody has different abilities.

[25:58:58] Everybody's going to be nice memes and just like, oh yeah, I need to cover three quarters

[25:59:01] of the room in two seconds flat and then you've got some like priest or whatever, he's

[25:59:05] like, try to get across the room.

[25:59:08] That's not going to happen here but we should see some leaps in progress.

[25:59:10] They are aware of everything that needs to happen here.

[25:59:13] Now more importantly, two things that have been happening this morning after Liquid

[25:59:16] got the kill the feedback I had while I was streaming was are we surprised that it's dead so soon?

[25:59:22] I'm like no like we're talking this raid has been so difficult but a hundred not pull boss is easy

[25:59:29] right that's what we're considering easy right now let's let's bear in mind that's mostly case of

[25:59:33] end bosses but more importantly the guys have been raiding at a super high technical level for

[25:59:38] the last two bosses oh yeah they're like already on to their full in that mindset already sometimes

[25:59:43] you know the raids are so easy in the pre bosses before you get to the penultimate or the finale

[25:59:49] that you then have to sort of engage real raid mode for sure these guys did that a brute twister so

[25:59:55] like it's going to be surprising to see blizzards come up with something for ansterec that's going to

[26:00:00] make them go but wait there's more you thought you had it all sorted before no watch this that's

[26:00:06] going to get wacky but more importantly they had a different vibe I was here this morning I let

[26:00:10] Let the guys into the building in fact

[26:00:12] Um, obviously running in the janitor sort of thing

[26:00:15] Roll here as well

[26:00:16] I come in early, I clean the desks, so make sure the pins are fresh

[26:00:19] I give it a little air freshener on Scribe Seat, classic

[26:00:21] That is nice

[26:00:22] I did all those things, and they were in a very jovial mood

[26:00:25] You know, they were like, yeah, we can do whatever, we can kill it today or not

[26:00:28] It doesn't really matter, we're on target with Liquid still

[26:00:30] It's not a big deal, the last boss is what it's all about, blah blah blah

[26:00:33] And then of course Liquid killed it, and then it changed

[26:00:35] Because there was two modes of thought, right, it's one

[26:00:38] liquid don't kill it and go to bed and we don't kill it we're all par yep liquid

[26:00:43] don't kill it and go to bed we do kill it we then only get that loot but we get

[26:00:48] to see a bit of answer egg although we very unlikely to have the time to see

[26:00:52] answer at phase three where we know there's gonna be some shenanigans and

[26:00:55] then the alternative is that we get really far into answer egg and we know

[26:00:59] the comp we want for answer egg which would be amazing for next week that's

[26:01:02] such huge information that liquid wouldn't have so they were in a very

[26:01:06] jovial spirit and then look at killer they chase up all we kind of need to

[26:01:08] actually kill this actually needs to die and of course they're now in a

[26:01:13] position as well where they do not want to go late though because their reset

[26:01:17] tomorrow is like five in the morning or something. I will be with you at 5 a.m.

[26:01:20] yeah so it's gonna be a very early start for them tomorrow and they do not

[26:01:24] want to be skimping out on that sleep so it's important that they can get

[26:01:28] this down and not be going into the early hours as an orb back there.

[26:01:32] Thank you!

[26:01:33] One orb, whoo-hoo.

[26:01:35] Yeah, so it's something they really need to be careful about in terms of going too late

[26:01:40] tonight, because if they wake up tired tomorrow, not only do they need to do any sort of remaining

[26:01:45] heroic splits, which I honestly don't think there's going to be that many left to do.

[26:01:48] I can't imagine so.

[26:01:49] But in terms of reclearing on Mythic, although of course, yes, Brutwister is getting nerfed

[26:01:54] in terms of the ad health and stuff, fair enough, that's going to make it a little

[26:01:56] easier and the gear that you're going to get is going to make Kaivesa a little bit easier.

[26:01:59] You might even be able to just go straight back to tanking it just to make it like more

[26:02:03] chill. All of that isn't getting nerfed, you're just getting more gear, making it a little

[26:02:06] simple. I understand why it's not.

[26:02:09] Do you think gear is going to cover it that much?

[26:02:12] I think that gear is going to cover it that much, yes. I think that the only, like

[26:02:18] one thing Jesse pointed out in terms of a way of nerfing it is maybe reducing

[26:02:22] the damage it deals. You're actually reducing health or anything, just reducing the damage

[26:02:25] Which is a little bit, but once again gear also helps cover that you get you that little bit more space

[26:02:29] But as you can see they're in their intermission here boss at 76% not too bad. It's certainly seen worse fast boys though

[26:02:36] They have to wait a really weird time there to get that soak. Yeah, it's a very delayed

[26:02:42] You want to soak him as fast as possible so he's dealt with right see but this is not tindral seeds

[26:02:46] You know, you're not under that kind of time limit, but it does need to be done very very quickly

[26:02:51] Because you have to sit there and stare at them and they're like, I'm going to kill you,

[26:02:55] I'm going to kill you, I'm going to kill you.

[26:02:57] You see the small sword at the moment on the right side of the screen slowly making its

[26:03:00] way down and when it plunges into the orb.

[26:03:03] Stuart!

[26:03:04] I think it's a really cute way of showing the time remaining on the orbs.

[26:03:07] Because beforehand in the past, if orbs spawn, you just assume that they're going to

[26:03:10] explode after a while.

[26:03:11] You normally don't even get an indication.

[26:03:13] So it reminds me of some other game, I can't place it.

[26:03:15] No.

[26:03:16] Yeah.

[26:03:17] No.

[26:03:18] I wouldn't be able to.

[26:03:19] I wouldn't be able to.

[26:03:20] What a concept. Oh dude. We don't want to start invoking the the wrath of the welcoming

[26:03:30] Wonderful influence going on throughout the raid, which is great to see the Wild Devs expanding their horizons a little bit

[26:03:35] And oh 5050 on saved it. Good lad 5050 on Alex knocking his drink over there

[26:03:41] To make it happen

[26:03:42] But we are expected some kind of leaps and bounds in progress here method. Obviously I'm a very good pull

[26:03:46] Oh, yeah at the 102 mark. But everything is here. What they don't know

[26:03:50] It's almost impossible to tell even while watching streams of other people playing and doing the fight and all that

[26:03:55] It's the intricacies the tiny little changes that Roger will be keeping his peepers open for

[26:04:01] That's what you're looking for to solve the general thing

[26:04:05] 90% of it. Yeah, easy to pick up. We can see what goes on

[26:04:08] But there's the little bits that you've got people doing that echo will need to solve and hopefully solve really quickly

[26:04:14] But they should be able to do this. We're predicting four hours just where it's telling me three

[26:04:20] I'm hoping yeah, I'm just hoping it dies today. Honestly me too

[26:04:24] They have sufficient time after the raid where if anyone has anything left to do say they want to do that mythic split raid

[26:04:29] Which I think is a very wise decision if they've got it. I I thought they'd do it

[26:04:34] I don't know if they've done it. Maybe production could tell us if they've done it. Yeah, um

[26:04:39] What on heroic or mythic? Oh, okay

[26:04:42] Okay, so they've done a little bit of mythic at the beginning, but they haven't done all of the bosses on mythic as an example

[26:04:47] There would be ways of extending that if they wanted to get any more gear from further bosses

[26:04:52] But whether or not they're gonna do it who knows?

[26:04:55] I'm sure they've got to be more important in a fantasy first few bosses first four bosses aren't necessarily the biggest

[26:05:01] Loot contributors until they're like really really strong trinkets or things like that and even still

[26:05:07] We're not even after trinkets really anymore

[26:05:09] Now we're after increase item level and train kits awesome, but the actual base items such as you know the spine masters and stuff like that

[26:05:15] It's actually kind of cool. So this boss dying

[26:05:17] Isn't actually gonna matter in terms of the loot it drops too much in my opinion

[26:05:20] I don't think that's the main reason that we're like super invested in killing this boss today

[26:05:25] It is so that we can go into and correct make sure that we can see the changes that are different and

[26:05:30] give all that information to the analysts so that once our raiders go to sleep our analysts get to work and

[26:05:35] and start making ideas, start making raid plans, start making week hours and getting timers, correct?

[26:05:40] Just getting those like 10 to 20 pulls in the dark, just getting all that information.

[26:05:45] Yeah, and they're full not showing it.

[26:05:46] Oh no, full show.

[26:05:47] Wow, of course, because yeah, liquid pre-warning you guys.

[26:05:50] Liquid did the exact same thing, rightfully so as well.

[26:05:52] They only had like a couple hours left.

[26:05:54] You know where do you want to give that information to Echo or Method or anyone else.

[26:05:57] No, but Alex is totally right, they give you that time.

[26:06:00] Even when the Raiders go to bed, it's not, wouldn't be too surprising to see some of the

[26:06:04] Bench characters or whatever come in just mess with some positioning things in phase. Oh, yeah

[26:06:08] You've got the arena. You've got the playfield

[26:06:10] You can you can do some goofy stuff with characters that aren't the main raiders who need rest and just to check things out again

[26:06:16] Timers and all that and having having that ready for tomorrow

[26:06:18] Because they'll once the next step, of course will be a crisp re-clear. I could not not great at that

[26:06:24] Typically speaking that the recluse. I think they've improved a little bit. Oh, I've forgotten in way interesting

[26:06:31] I forgot how to pronounce that boss, I answered you because I think you'll find Mike, it's

[26:06:37] Naimuu.

[26:06:38] God that fight.

[26:06:39] Yeah, no corrupt fight.

[26:06:40] In all fairness they did troll hard on that particular.

[26:06:46] Yeah, I guess every now and then they do troll.

[26:06:49] I was mainly thinking back to when it was really bad in Castle Nathria.

[26:06:53] They had a really rough re-clear in Nathria.

[26:06:56] I think it's mainly because of the pressure of Liquid working on the last boss, both

[26:06:59] groups that are working on the last boss very deep into it. You had to like rush back to

[26:07:02] Titanathrius as soon as possible, knowing you had to get through Stone Legion Generals as

[26:07:06] well. That must have put a lot of pressure on.

[26:07:08] An amazing fight.

[26:07:10] I thought you said his name.

[26:07:12] Stone Legion Generals best fight known to man. Pick up the orb, whoo-hoo.

[26:07:16] The last full mythic prog I ever did.

[26:07:18] Yeah.

[26:07:19] Thanks Al.

[26:07:20] You're welcome.

[26:07:21] No, trust me, you're welcome.

[26:07:22] That is something to play with in the history of the game guys. It was the last boss

[26:07:27] you really truly progressed.

[26:07:28] I'm surprised we made it any further.

[26:07:31] Oh, that's cute hand-hold ice block.

[26:07:33] It is very cute.

[26:07:34] That is cute, cute-able to eat.

[26:07:36] They, of course, send their immune system there because it not only prevents the double poison

[26:07:39] stack from that rain that falls down here, but also stops the orb being generated, so

[26:07:44] it's less orbs to soak, and you double whammy it by having less poison damage.

[26:07:48] Well, everything looks pretty good.

[26:07:49] I can't see the third web.

[26:07:50] I'm assuming it's there.

[26:07:51] They're generally placing that third web much further down towards the edge of

[26:07:55] the room now rather than, like, sacrilegalism in the wall.

[26:07:57] I think it's because one of the ranged pairs now are indeed double fire.

[26:08:01] Well it does two things. One, it helps them out and also the melee stays still to finish

[26:08:04] off the scarabs and the boss lands right in front of them. So they stay still, they monster

[26:08:09] the scarabs, the boss arrives, they're ready to go, there's no downtime whatsoever. It's

[26:08:13] not like the melee can get across the room and get back and maintain like any reasonable

[26:08:17] amount of armor.

[26:08:18] Oh, my word, Canik's full monk is steering his way through the packs there. That

[26:08:23] was terrifying.

[26:08:24] That's kind of a clean submission Echo.

[26:08:25] Yeah, so the boss...

[26:08:26] sub 75% we're happy with that that's a nice percentage for the boss to be at

[26:08:30] you're gonna see the groups rotating around throughout this phase you're

[26:08:33] gonna be spawning more orbs that the other team needs to soak so the melee

[26:08:37] are kind of looking after the melee the range they're looking after one another

[26:08:39] in pairs but it does mean that you're running around pretty fast you're gonna

[26:08:43] be obviously dodging these cones that are coming out of the boss in a sort of

[26:08:45] final fantasy style honestly some sort of like a go go fast fast fast one

[26:08:51] second one second for nice memes that was somebody darting across the

[26:08:56] room. Of course you've got to be careful that you don't over soak because if you do get to 3 stacks

[26:09:00] obviously you will die. You've got to wait for your dot to drop but it looks like they've managed to do it pretty well.

[26:09:04] Yeah the bosses come out, all players alive. Dots are going to be running out soon and that's a really nice health percentage for the bosses to be at.

[26:09:10] So the main thing we're going to be seeing in this phase now is the fact that we're going to be getting gripped in towards the boss.

[26:09:15] You'll grip in one team first and then the other team afterwards. One thing that Liquid was doing really really well

[26:09:20] is that the first team kind of separates out to the left and right breaking their webs immediately and the second,

[26:09:25] so you can see them going left and right. This team are going to go straight through and soaking the orbs.

[26:09:29] They are trying to break their webs at the same time as soaking the orbs, which I think is a little bit

[26:09:34] optimistic, especially when we've got a double melee here. Many are just going to eat the down time

[26:09:38] as whoever he's tethered with. Come on, pull backwards, man. I'm trying to DPS, dude.

[26:09:44] DPS breath up, because if you have breath up, he is about to slam his desk.

[26:09:47] Yeah, that's full fuming, but you can see how the grip works.

[26:09:50] Hopefully we've got the last to spell for the mob in the middle. We do.

[26:09:54] Unfortunately losing three players, I think we don't have any battle res available unfortunately, but that shouldn't stop us.

[26:10:00] There isn't really a damage check until we get to the next intermission for them to do obviously more practice with their positioning and whatnot.

[26:10:06] The bosses still are relatively low health pool here, but the next script coming in, so if the blue team gets gripped in first,

[26:10:12] you're going to see them largely...

[26:10:15] Oh, she's going to teleport to the edge first. Let's find out exactly how they're going to do this.

[26:10:18] So red team's getting gripped in, they're going to go to the left, the blue team is in the wrong place entirely.

[26:10:22] I guess they could go back on themselves, but they're trying to create the artist they run out.

[26:10:26] It's really interesting.

[26:10:27] Okay, so I'm pretty sure that one of the teams need to be pre-positioned at the hall that the

[26:10:31] boss teleports to. That's how Liquid was doing it.

[26:10:33] That's how Liquid did it. They look like they're doing a different approach for it.

[26:10:36] Well, different is one way of describing it.

[26:10:41] This is a Roger Cook. It might be raw.

[26:10:44] Fucking raw!

[26:10:47] Roger!

[26:10:48] I'm glad that Ramsay is not with us to see that particular cook.

[26:10:53] It was a little rough.

[26:10:55] Roger's Kitchen.

[26:10:57] But yeah, good new pool, getting back into Phase 2.

[26:11:01] Obviously not the very, very best pool I've ever had, but it's good to get back into the flow of things.

[26:11:05] We are going to be here for another couple hours as they fix everything.

[26:11:08] This is one of the bosses that just suddenly clicks and the boss dies.

[26:11:11] We need to rework on each of our overlaps.

[26:11:14] You can see that the system was in place and largely one clever aspect of the strategy that

[26:11:19] I think is really good is that the phase 2 strategy is very similar to the phase 3 strategy.

[26:11:23] You don't want to just say, oh it's slightly more optimum phase 2 to maybe do it this way.

[26:11:27] If it's only going to gain you like a very very small modicum of DPS or ease in strategy

[26:11:30] it's better just to do a slightly harder thing that you're going to be doing all

[26:11:33] the time rather than varying it all the time until you start to get those really

[26:11:36] min max bits which you probably don't need to do.

[26:11:39] So we will find out.

[26:11:41] to chaos is the way this go chaos to normality I should say it's turn this madness into a nice

[26:11:47] simple repeatable process for echo here but they are looking to get this kill as soon as possible

[26:11:52] the more time they have an answer like the better uh not sure they'll I'm not sure anybody even with

[26:11:56] the remaining time left would get to phase three to see the real weirdness that's going on I don't

[26:12:00] think you'll see phase two I don't think you'll see the intermission even if you had like an hour

[26:12:04] or so yeah although I don't know it does feel like this instance is starting to go the way of

[26:12:11] You know something similar to not it's not as bad as but similar to emerald nightmare in terms of the card in terms of the

[26:12:17] Difficult parts were more towards the middle thinking of things like Ilganoff thinking of things are like scenarios

[26:12:23] And now like it's like it's like it could go on a slight downward trend who knows

[26:12:27] obviously liquids pools being four of them getting to 83.5 percent means

[26:12:33] Very little have no idea what they're comp was or nothing, but uh, I don't know that there's a small vibe

[26:12:39] I'm surprised there because this boss, you know a lot of people talking about as being potentially the most difficult boss

[26:12:45] I've ever released in the game. I think it's safe to say that's not so well

[26:12:47] They have turned it down

[26:12:49] Yes, it's done it down from the ptr. Oh for sure. Yeah, so it's um, I think it's probably for the best

[26:12:53] Considering how difficult the previous bosses were but um, I wonder if maybe they've gone too far

[26:12:58] I guess we'll find out you think this is too easy. Yes

[26:13:01] In comparison to what previously came offer a penultimate boss

[26:13:04] Are you comparing it to Tindral or are you comparing it to Brute Twister and Nexus Princess?

[26:13:11] I'm comparing it to Penoctla bosses and also like what you can see in both ways.

[26:13:17] I think the difficulty of the raid in terms of the pool count and the mechanical complexity

[26:13:20] of the bosses should go up over time right?

[26:13:22] Yeah unless linear sort of rise.

[26:13:24] So that generally does happen.

[26:13:26] It does look like this boss.

[26:13:27] The thing is it's hard to say if this boss is easy because you can't just look

[26:13:30] at the pool count.

[26:13:32] killed it in 170 odd pulls, but they're also like disgustingly good players, yeah. Like

[26:13:38] the movement tech that they needed to pull off for an average group that gets here might

[26:13:42] be insurmountable. It might be like a similar sort of thing where the Tindral seeds were

[26:13:46] really really difficult for Liquid and like almost impossible for a normal Guild, you

[26:13:50] know that exact same sort of arc could be true. But it feels like once this fight

[26:13:54] is solved and you can keep things calm, I don't, I don't know. I'd be interested

[26:14:00] see how difficult it is in a month's time, even if they don't know if it's going to be.

[26:14:04] So let's put a note in our diaries to see if this is going to be, if I was to say which

[26:14:07] boss is probably going to get nerfed the most so far, it does still look like Nexus Princess

[26:14:12] to me because without some changes to how brutal it is, like even the execution changing

[26:14:18] from 10 to say 5% would be an overwhelming nerf to that fight, right?

[26:14:23] That would be instantly so, so much better.

[26:14:26] You could leave a lot of things the same as long as you didn't get executed because

[26:14:28] Because we saw most players not getting like, full killed, but it was enough to take them

[26:14:32] below 10%.

[26:14:33] Yeah.

[26:14:34] And that's what then killed you, right?

[26:14:35] Because it's got that execute mechanic going on top of it.

[26:14:37] So something like that could be a huge change that might make that fight like pretty accessible

[26:14:41] actually with gear to beat the DPS check, two tanking it, having combat res is available.

[26:14:46] All those changes, sure.

[26:14:48] That might be enough to change that fight enough for most people.

[26:14:51] But this one, of course, with its much more movement complexity, which is what

[26:14:53] you're referring to, is it requires a lot of learning of like, okay, phase

[26:14:56] one.

[26:14:57] Here here here here you six have to do this the whole raid has to rotate and spin in this wonderful clockwork fashion the Coggers

[26:15:05] Great

[26:15:08] Coggers at the time and it's like spinning screws. I've course it's Coggers

[26:15:12] We have to do our Coggers

[26:15:15] That's something that's not nerfed by ability nerfing

[26:15:18] No, it's the fight is so difficult because you have to make a strategy so fragile in order to get the most amount of damage

[26:15:23] But when you can start playing safe and not be greedy and bringing in much better comps for earlier bosses

[26:15:28] They have these hard damage checks then they certainly you know the mechanical complexity of

[26:15:33] What's it called? Cavesa? It's not that high. No, it was never a fight that was super mechanical complex

[26:15:39] Just purely the DPS check was insane

[26:15:41] And I would also argue

[26:15:43] I don't know what your thoughts on this hour is once the DPS check isn't as bad

[26:15:47] You don't need to make it that hard like they made it both liquid and echo

[26:15:51] So, Maidkai there's an infinitely harder to maintain uptime, oh yeah.

[26:15:56] That was their main goal, is like we need to maintain crazy uptime on the boss to meet

[26:16:00] the DPS check, so we have to make the fight harder on ourselves.

[26:16:02] Sure, it would be nice to just like spread the portals out, do a couple of charges, just

[26:16:07] forget about the rest, people can run out, you know, having your melee out for like

[26:16:10] 7 or 8 seconds, ain't that big deal when the DPS check isn't as high, for sure.

[26:16:16] when you have a case of like, yeah, we need to find exactly 20 million raid DPS or whatever it was.

[26:16:23] Having your warrior out for seven or eight seconds is a big deal. That's a lot of DPS that's lost.

[26:16:28] And that's one thing I think about this fight. As I say, I'm not taking away from the fact that this fight is difficult mechanically.

[26:16:33] And it did have a tight DPS check in terms of, you know, liquid kill it when it was in the enrage.

[26:16:38] But we're not bringing a disgusting comp for it. There isn't some weird class stacking going on with this fight.

[26:16:44] There is a lot of upward movement left to go in terms of gearing for classes as well, you know

[26:16:49] We've been in tears before where they and sepulchre was one of them where

[26:16:54] The next reset didn't matter. We were strollers. We're like this dude

[26:17:04] So this like in terms of this fight for the average guild

[26:17:07] it feels more normal than the previous two bosses because it's gonna get an eyelid if I was gonna get completely stopped on damage

[26:17:15] Ways the fact that liquid managed to get it down without the like a really really perfect pool

[26:17:19] I'm sure they did a lot of min max

[26:17:21] But after 170 pulls you don't think that those guys can't find

[26:17:24] Another 10% damage if they really need it to you know honest as high exactly

[26:17:29] You know it's completely possible for guilds to be able to do that

[26:17:31] So I wonder if this boss is actually going to go down in the books as the scariest boss or probably more likely the most over

[26:17:39] You know the most feared yet, probably least scary

[26:17:43] Really interesting commonly far processes. What will what boss will this very be remembered for and obviously we've not seen answer

[26:17:49] At Kiat's a lot of people thought he was going to this one. I can't think at this point. It's Kybeza

[26:17:55] Yeah, it's a great fight. Don't get me wrong. I really like this fight

[26:17:58] I would be really excited to go ahead and do this fight as well like as a

[26:18:02] Yeah, this would be right on my street. I'm not saying that they should do anything different

[26:18:05] But like it just think it's interesting that for sure

[26:18:09] What was most feared has now become like yeah cool fight, but don't need to buy back too much

[26:18:14] Somebody likes to do that bit extra, you know take the extra burden of someone else especially lazy players like you oh

[26:18:19] I can get two ops. Yeah, I mean you would know I'd be like oh, I can do this at the back

[26:18:23] I can do that, you know volunteering. Let me do the odd. Let me do the webs

[26:18:27] Let me do this do all that kind of stuff and just there's a lot of opportunity here for people who like doing that extra

[26:18:32] Little bits you like shine and do things it'd be a Roger Brown mechanic typically if he was in he'd be like I'm all over this

[26:18:38] Like there's no question. I'm doing this job. It's a hundred percent the way I like to play and there's a few fires like that

[26:18:43] It's like when we think back see for Sepulchre. Yeah, we always go back to it people talk about Holander's but for me

[26:18:49] That's not the boss. I remember that I remember Rhygalon

[26:18:52] I'll ride one with the nuts.

[26:18:54] Yeah, for me, it's like what was the most memorable fight

[26:18:57] for you in Seppel, because Race to World First,

[26:18:59] and it's Rhygalon, that Rhygalon fight was amazing.

[26:19:02] It was so good.

[26:19:03] It had everything you wanted from the Raiders to do.

[26:19:07] It was very clear what they were doing.

[26:19:08] Have some reasonably interesting mechanics going on.

[26:19:10] Same as Castle Dathria, Slutschvist.

[26:19:13] Slutschvist was the best boss in there, by far.

[26:19:15] Miles, it was so good.

[26:19:17] It was fun.

[26:19:18] It was engaging.

[26:19:19] It got really intense at the end.

[26:19:21] He had a steady ramp up. There was regular damage jumps, which is great.

[26:19:24] You could sit with your melee players.

[26:19:26] It's great.

[26:19:28] The Paladins can try to kill each other all the time.

[26:19:31] Depending on your guild.

[26:19:33] A lot of things. Aberus existed.

[26:19:36] Yeah, that was...

[26:19:38] I couldn't tell you.

[26:19:40] Sarkareff?

[26:19:42] Echo of Neltharion.

[26:19:44] Oh, what's that there?

[26:19:46] It's Aberus.

[26:19:48] Second tier of Neltharion, isn't there?

[26:19:50] There was also a fight, I forgot it was in Aberus.

[26:19:54] Was it Saskan in there?

[26:19:56] Saskan was a good fight actually.

[26:19:59] It certainly got cheesed in the world first, both guilds.

[26:20:02] I remember the kill, was it Thanahu?

[26:20:04] Thanahu was the one who just shot it.

[26:20:08] They were like frames away from dying properly.

[26:20:11] I had the Assault Boss in there, that was really good.

[26:20:15] something this all the Kali assault that was really good like all of the

[26:20:21] assault buses nothing you know I don't remember names what was I was I was

[26:20:26] talking about it was the wave-based fight and it was well it's a wave-based

[26:20:29] fight well that existed so we did I've been told you're asking about the

[26:20:37] jump but yes you can get this is echo much baby I've got the one just

[26:20:43] It's the standard Echo one.

[26:20:44] From Raid, Vaulting Carnets.

[26:20:45] I've got the Vaulting Carnets shirt on, but I've got the Echo hoodie on, and it's incredibly

[26:20:49] comfortable.

[26:20:50] This is Aberus, actually.

[26:20:51] See how little I remember Aberus?

[26:20:52] I own this.

[26:20:53] I don't know.

[26:20:54] Is it Aberus?

[26:20:55] I thought that was Bolt.

[26:20:56] There hasn't got any words on it.

[26:20:58] It's just a cool T-shirt.

[26:20:59] It's Aberus.

[26:21:00] It's a lovely design as well.

[26:21:01] I like it.

[26:21:02] Well, I've got the spiders one.

[26:21:03] There you go.

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[26:21:06] Also, if some of the merch has sold out, but we are taking pre-orders for

[26:21:10] those sizes.

[26:21:11] feel free to get those pre-orders in.

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[26:21:16] So do get them in whilst it's good

[26:21:17] because once those pre-orders have gone out,

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[26:21:21] It's only while stocks last, so to speak.

[26:21:22] So do get in and get some wonderful, wonderful match

[26:21:25] as they are going into pool number 110.

[26:21:29] They're at 110 already, honestly.

[26:21:31] I think it's just because of how spammy

[26:21:34] you can kinda do it, actually.

[26:21:35] It's a surprisingly spammy fight,

[26:21:37] but they are going back to those echo sort of ways

[26:21:39] taking a nice amount of time between the pools

[26:21:41] to make sure that everything is just so

[26:21:44] so they can do everything exactly how they want to do it.

[26:21:46] There's definitely some confusion in that phase two

[26:21:48] where break as to how that was happening.

[26:21:50] We saw a minute last week for a long time,

[26:21:52] the melee were getting killed.

[26:21:53] It's like, guys, this is how we do it.

[26:21:55] You do this every single time

[26:21:57] and it should work out nicely as they clobber

[26:21:59] the big chungus into the wall on top of the scarabs

[26:22:02] in order to see this is just straight up time

[26:22:05] for the guys.

[26:22:06] Canex, of course, the scarab murderer,

[26:22:08] He hates scarabs and he's going to bring them down every single time, innovate, throw them

[26:22:11] onto Zazi there.

[26:22:12] Oh, they run into each other, I think, wa-wa!

[26:22:15] That's going to be a...

[26:22:16] I would probably just bin the pool personally, we're quite early in, it's only a minute

[26:22:19] in, so I think people should start hugging.

[26:22:24] It's no more blue team, no more red team.

[26:22:27] Let's make a purple...

[26:22:28] Oh, they're combat res, they're going.

[26:22:29] They're still going?

[26:22:30] Yeah, they're still going.

[26:22:31] They're going to keep going.

[26:22:32] I guess in theory, there is no damage check in theory until the very, very end.

[26:22:36] have to make it through the intermission and you don't want to be in the intermission for too long

[26:22:40] because you will get extra stacks having to do extra orbs which your healers will not be ready for

[26:22:44] in terms of the cooldowns available because you definitely need to start using some pretty good

[26:22:48] CDs towards the end of that but I think this is probably all yeah this is this is dead

[26:22:53] interesting to swap teams now hopefully no longer paired with uh Zerwo as he was earlier on

[26:23:00] now he's rocking around with Rycen keeping those same people in there with some comp changes

[26:23:04] to change your partner action as you get things done, but this is not unusual. This fight can go

[26:23:09] wrong on a dime. Oh, it really can. Yeah, on an absolute dime. I wonder if this is what is causing

[26:23:15] them a little bit of grief, actually, because it was incredibly strong in phase one yesterday.

[26:23:18] So they've definitely made some changes in here, whether it just be the partners as well. You've

[26:23:23] got to learn how your partner moves. You've got to see if you're changing team entirely,

[26:23:27] going from, you know, the red team over to the blue team, you've got to see exactly

[26:23:32] have the blue team work throughout the entire time because otherwise you know if you've just been

[26:23:35] red team your entire life sometimes if you're a melee you don't even know what the blue team are

[26:23:38] doing you got nothing they're on the other side of a giant you know um spider or a giant like

[26:23:43] scaraby dude you can't see nothing all I see him now is doing the saucy when he stood over there

[26:23:48] I just seem jamming to the music yeah he's a jammy chungus is what he is he's shaking what he

[26:23:54] owns yeah and he owns a lot he does own a lot he owns a lot he's owning an echo at the

[26:23:58] at the moment. He's packing heat. He's packing heat, this boy. Oh man. Yeah. So don't worry

[26:24:03] too much about getting through phase one. They'll just work out the kicks. I mean, classically

[26:24:08] in world first raiding, you make it as easy as possible to get far into the fight, then

[26:24:12] you classically make the rest of the fight harder to get deeper into the fight where

[26:24:15] you're going to need more stuff. So it's all very normal for them to be doing this.

[26:24:19] So we're not worried. They expect a few hours to kill this and get everything right.

[26:24:25] We'll put that to the test, that's for sure,

[26:24:27] because we'll be right here with you along the way.

[26:24:29] But one thing's for sure, they need to kill it.

[26:24:32] It would be big sad for them if they don't.

[26:24:34] It would be a big morale hit

[26:24:37] if they were unable to take this boss down.

[26:24:40] And it would be kind of sucky in terms of info,

[26:24:42] but I honestly think the biggest loss would be morale.

[26:24:45] I think this actually, it is relatively,

[26:24:47] it depends on when they can kill it,

[26:24:49] but I think there's a whole lot to gain

[26:24:51] in terms of like big time prog,

[26:24:53] Like actual players moving around and killing the boss on the last boss here.

[26:24:58] I didn't know there's too much of that that we're going to be able to get done today,

[26:25:00] regardless of when this dies.

[26:25:02] No, regardless.

[26:25:03] Phase one of Answerc, and we were talking about that this morning before Liquid killed the Silicon Core,

[26:25:10] is like, phase one's going to have some changes, but the real nasty business is going to be phase three.

[26:25:16] Like we all know that they're probably going to have to be in phase three.

[26:25:18] Like this one's shifted, right?

[26:25:19] In normal and heroic, you barely see phase three.

[26:25:23] At all the bosses like practically dead by the time you get to phase three if you've been doing it correctly

[26:25:28] And then they switched it so in mythic like 50% of the bosses phase three are close to

[26:25:34] And I come over the last time we had a boss. What you can it was Razor get the last

[26:25:38] First the last boss that had a first phase that was actually difficult

[26:25:43] So like is in the last boss of a great year. When was the

[26:25:47] Most recent time that we had that and that was Razor get that was it and it was

[26:25:50] then it was weird, right?

[26:25:51] That like the Sarkarath phase one died,

[26:25:55] like in like five balls or something.

[26:25:56] It was very quickly worked out for

[26:25:59] Thrak as well in terms of how long it took

[26:26:01] to get through that phase as well.

[26:26:04] So this last time we see the phase one of an end boss

[26:26:06] that's on a timer.

[26:26:08] So like people were like chilling

[26:26:10] and still getting through all the phases,

[26:26:12] getting all the information they needed.

[26:26:13] Obviously difficult to execute in the finale,

[26:26:15] but when your boss is just on a flat timer,

[26:26:17] you're getting a lot of info,

[26:26:18] like that we did yesterday here with a 10 month play.

[26:26:21] So there's two different mindsets for that.

[26:26:22] One of the reasons I believe, I'm not a dev,

[26:26:25] but I think this is one of the reasons

[26:26:27] that they've switched to a more timer based

[26:26:30] structure for fights is so that we don't have

[26:26:35] to sit around and wait for our CDs.

[26:26:37] It was something that we did all the time

[26:26:38] when it was like, well, the, you know,

[26:26:40] the boss is gonna transition at 80%.

[26:26:42] If we can just wait a few moments,

[26:26:43] then we can go into the second phase

[26:26:45] with that much, that way my CDs will be up

[26:26:47] We can slam the really really difficult phase you don't really do that all too often

[26:26:50] Funny enough on one fight that you do do it on is this one as

[26:26:54] Liquid did indeed in the second intermission hold their damage a little bit

[26:26:58] So they went into the last phase with much good CD alignment as possible, which is

[26:27:02] Incredibly sad to hear old school. Yeah, no it not because of the strat the liquid did by the way

[26:27:07] That's entirely the great thing. I'm not giving them grief is in like it's sad that that's a thing again

[26:27:11] Because no one likes that close

[26:27:13] That was terrifying.

[26:27:15] There's gotta be a lot of that where you need to do that

[26:27:17] because I think Kush died also getting three stacks.

[26:27:20] You do not want to be doing that.

[26:27:21] Two is what you want.

[26:27:22] Two is okay to respawn as the shield is down.

[26:27:26] And we're into phase two.

[26:27:28] We haven't used the combat res, but they're all alive.

[26:27:30] And now let's see if they can get this drag in correct.

[26:27:33] There was a little confusion.

[26:27:34] We saw blue was out of place earlier.

[26:27:36] All those kinds of things.

[26:27:37] So now they'll be lining up nicely.

[26:27:39] Because when you get dragged in,

[26:27:40] the teams will be alternated on their dragons.

[26:27:42] their dragons so one team will go first like the blues just did then and then they

[26:27:45] just run straight into the red group. Yeah, unfortunately all terrorists attack.

[26:27:52] Yeah, many just cut that movement a little bit too fine, a little bit

[26:27:57] confused as to where the enemy team was so you can just see a good old explosion

[26:28:01] there, so fortunately a little bit of a power. A few players did it, you saw a lot of people die there because of course the opposite colors do touch each

[26:28:09] other. It goes boom that is what happens. It really does. Yeah so they'll get that right

[26:28:15] at the next couple of pulls. It's just about orientation. It's always weird when you get

[26:28:18] like gripped across an area. You can just get your orientation a little if you can. Yeah

[26:28:22] you can be a little over the place. That's easy enough to do. So it's something they'll

[26:28:26] have to get used to. Unfortunately they have to get all the way to phase 2 to start

[26:28:29] practicing it. But they did actually manage to interrupt the boss. So well done for

[26:28:32] that at least. They're going to get a second web vortex here. I think it's important

[26:28:35] at least give it a go um are we gonna see no they're doing something different yeah yeah that's

[26:28:41] all they're doing it differently because this is roger cooking yeah normally they would have one

[26:28:45] team going towards the wall maybe that's only a phase three strategy for liquid actually maybe

[26:28:49] i'm talking nonsense and i know that they do it very heavily in phase three i'm not sure if it's

[26:28:54] actually that important in phase two so this is for up time they're actually crushing the

[26:28:57] boss damage wise even with all these people that they've been doing very well yeah i think

[26:29:01] I think we're looking for 45% I believe as we're going into the last phase if we're going to be on pace to where Liquid were, but of course Liquid I believe on their pool had their very best damage going into the last phase as well, on the kill pool that is.

[26:29:16] But I have managed to stun the boss again, we are going to be able to see the second intermission which is nice even if it's just for practice sake it's something they haven't seen all too often.

[26:29:24] Bus getting slammed on down here

[26:29:26] Yeah, this is pretty cool. They lost grips. Okay. They saved the rest from you as that makes a lot of sense

[26:29:31] They want their tank socks again

[26:29:33] This is all about position practice make sure everybody can see what the new plan is Roger

[26:29:36] I see can we just cut some Roger for a second. He like hard coaching right now. Yep

[26:29:42] Roger sees this all in his mind's eye like the Prophet it reminds me sometimes of Minority report

[26:29:47] He's like in some way like projecting some image

[26:29:50] some cruise is scraped he's like yes I see it now there's the profits of spoken to me sees all

[26:29:56] the things all outcomes reading the tea leaves full full oracle Roger seeing into the future doing

[26:30:03] everything that you can to develop the strategies yeah mirrors has died again unfortunately so this

[26:30:10] is might be a relatively short live of course blizzard changing the fight they it's kind of funny

[26:30:14] blizzard changed the fight so you couldn't one tank it the guys realize oh we can still

[26:30:18] totally one like this and then plus that's a change again like no we're telling you guys stop one

[26:30:22] second plus that's enough oh yeah did you was like left right not all bad and I have no blink and I

[26:30:30] don't know what to play my character now like if I don't have blink I don't have it yep so we're in

[26:30:34] the final phase here we are my friends this is the final phase of the fight so we see not gonna

[26:30:40] get very far no the main thing for this last phase is that in like if anyone is unaware of the

[26:30:45] base sort of mechanics of this flight is that you are now having to stun, you are having

[26:30:49] the wall strat, you can see them there, there you go, you can see the red team going to

[26:30:51] the wall because you don't, not only do you have to stun the boss by dispelling diseases

[26:30:57] into her, the magic debuffs into her, sorry, but then you've also got to use the trip

[26:31:03] wires, so it's a very very difficult part that as you're going to see here, both

[26:31:06] groups are going to be gripped in, this team group gripped first, being told to

[26:31:09] go left or right, bit confused as to where to go and then the red team getting gripped

[26:31:13] in and they'll hopefully soak the orbs as they go through. Something they need to improve on is soaking

[26:31:16] those orbs as they pass through the boss, because that is quite a fundamental part of the liquid

[26:31:21] strategy at least. But you can see that some of the webs have been saved, not enough of the webs,

[26:31:26] but some of them did. That wasn't bad at all. That was okay. And that's exactly why they

[26:31:31] need to do some reps on this stuff. This is stuff they're actually going to clean up

[26:31:33] pretty quickly. Oh yeah, no, you can see the makings of it. Yeah, the base shape is

[26:31:38] there. Just need to do the reps and we'll be fine. I have no idea why I'm still holding

[26:31:42] this. Why do you have that? From the heroic week we were delving and that was part of my

[26:31:48] explorer's kit that I needed to have a little explore. We also have some binoculars next

[26:31:53] to the Red Bull fridge behind you. Oh no way, are they real? Yeah. Well, that's real

[26:31:58] looks like. Damn. Sad times. Sad times indeed. Yeah, no, you think you know a guy. I

[26:32:09] hate fake binoculars. Oh these work. I think they actually are real binoculars. They have

[26:32:14] a magnification factor of about 1.1. But they are real. They are real. They are real. You've

[26:32:19] got a hat somewhere around here but I think Jordan might store it. I'm not playing dress

[26:32:22] up, that's not happening. Well if you get your donations in... No, no, no, no, no,

[26:32:27] no, no, no. We have had enough juicy, vinegary pickles, hot dogs. Although I did bite,

[26:32:33] you know what I feel really mean is I actually got these protein bars for the guys. Oh

[26:32:37] as an actual gift, but they assumed that I was trolling them and wanted to make a hot dog protein bar sandwich

[26:32:45] They didn't touch them because they were like when I got asked this morning by a medic is like, what was the

[26:32:51] donation for process behind the protein bars?

[26:32:54] Nothing, it's just that we didn't have any protein for dinner. So I got your protein bars a treat. It's like never even occurred to me

[26:32:59] It's just a nice gesture.

[26:33:01] Yeah, I think that's fair.

[26:33:03] Yeah, that's fair. It's a suspicious thing, just to be given food on the couch.

[26:33:09] Every single time I've eaten here, it's gone wrong.

[26:33:12] Well, there has been a crime committed and none of you guys have noticed already.

[26:33:15] For some reason, our wonderful Jordan has been banished from the picture frames.

[26:33:19] She's no longer welcome.

[26:33:20] I need to aim this in a way that it doesn't reflect.

[26:33:23] Yeah, look, and is that Nagura who's been full cut out?

[26:33:26] It is.

[26:33:28] Because it's been full removed.

[26:33:29] There we go.

[26:33:30] Oh, there's a tiny little glare on the painter there.

[26:33:34] Hold on, let me fix that.

[26:33:36] That's pretty good.

[26:33:38] Everybody, oh, you can see me.

[26:33:40] What?

[26:33:40] How am I in Jesse's picture frame now?

[26:33:45] Because you're reflecting.

[26:33:46] Through what mechanism?

[26:33:47] The television.

[26:33:48] Oh, the television.

[26:33:50] That's how light works.

[26:33:53] The production.

[26:33:54] We're going to need to do something about this.

[26:33:55] Production being really nice and telling

[26:33:57] me that I was very smart. I was confused. I don't understand light. It's very confusing.

[26:34:09] So refraction and reflection are different things. It's very confusing. Yeah, I'll get

[26:34:14] better kids to explain it to you. I think I'm a ghost. I don't like the fact that I

[26:34:19] am now in the frame so that needs to be fixed. If I just sink down. Don't worry the guys

[26:34:23] up pulling it's all good but we obviously want to give a big shout out to our sponsors

[26:34:26] Displate. Oh yes. Have you seen the signed one? It's here. I don't know where the signed

[26:34:30] one is but I've got this giant one. Hold, I'll grab it. It's really, this is textured.

[26:34:35] A wonderful textured display. There, display. Oh very nice. Beautiful. Oh you found it.

[26:34:42] Well done, well done. Get that headset back on. See I'm using the light here Mike

[26:34:51] to show that off. There it is. Is that cool? It's got all the signatures

[26:34:55] of all the Raiders on it dudes. They arrived here yesterday. It's got everybody on there,

[26:35:00] show, scribe, salted, wall life, Mitch is on here, Snestra production is on here.

[26:35:04] Oh yeah.

[26:35:05] We're not.

[26:35:06] No.

[26:35:07] Disappointing.

[26:35:08] Who would want us to start the place?

[26:35:11] True.

[26:35:12] And their texture as well. So try to show it in the lights. You can see that it will,

[26:35:16] there you go. See it's fully embossed. It gives a nice refraction on the lights,

[26:35:19] but it's got the signatures of all the players. A wonderful way to remember the races.

[26:35:23] I know some of you have been collecting these since we started doing them, but that's the new one and it's really nice

[26:35:27] I like it's very very nice. I like this one a hell of a lot

[26:35:30] Yeah, and it does come with all the signatures of the players embossed and applied to it

[26:35:34] But we in not in in other terms

[26:35:37] We have the largest site-wide discount code for display on the whole website

[26:35:41] So if you're not looking for ours code echo, which is up. We'll get you some percent. Yep

[26:35:46] It's a huge, huge discount.

[26:35:48] And obviously got every sort of like hobbyist aspect of it.

[26:35:52] Any sort of side-firing, nerddom, exist, movies,

[26:35:55] all kinds of stuff on this bike website for you to check out if you want to decorate.

[26:35:59] And as you've seen, they're super easy to do.

[26:36:01] They're magnetic posters so you can swap them around to all sorts.

[26:36:04] I do it all the time.

[26:36:04] I found it very useful to decorate my office with them.

[26:36:08] Yeah, very, very nice.

[26:36:08] I change them all the time.

[26:36:09] Like depending on how I'm feeling, I'll walk in and I'm like,

[26:36:11] I want some Half-Life 2 on the wall.

[26:36:13] Yeah.

[26:36:13] So I'll do that.

[26:36:14] For sure.

[26:36:15] Yeah, it's some little nightmares now something on just a little I love little nightmares

[26:36:20] Very cute. Yeah cool game. Have you played both? I have not played the second one. Is the second one better or good still?

[26:36:28] bad

[26:36:30] Really bad really good. Oh

[26:36:34] If you like the first one, I do like it for a good time nice very cool

[26:36:38] You're for a very very good time. You're for a very good time recommend because the third one's coming

[26:36:41] Oh is it? It is.

[26:36:43] If that's the devs, I think it's something weird happened.

[26:36:46] Don't shoot me if I'm wrong, but I believe the people who made

[26:36:49] the original have actually made a different game now,

[26:36:52] which is basically another sequel to it, but they're not with the same overarching studio.

[26:36:57] You know, like Demon's Souls can't be, they couldn't keep the name Demon's Souls

[26:37:02] because that was owned by someone else.

[26:37:04] All right.

[26:37:04] It was owned by somebody, so then they made Dark Souls,

[26:37:07] even though it's obviously the same.

[26:37:08] It's all too complicated, man.

[26:37:10] Who knows what's going on?

[26:37:11] IP licensing friend. It's really fun and an engaging experience.

[26:37:17] There's nothing more fun than IP license issues.

[26:37:19] I tell you, my favorite.

[26:37:22] Every time I deal with it, I'm like, wow, this is great.

[26:37:27] Why are you dealing with it all the time?

[26:37:29] What are you doing?

[26:37:29] It's causing you to deal with IP licensing, Mike.

[26:37:33] Things in the future.

[26:37:36] That you may not see.

[26:37:38] No, I'm not making a pickle game.

[26:37:40] And there's nobody who owns the IP on pickles, we've checked.

[26:37:44] It's called Gobble That Pickle, it's a wonderful flash drive for you to walk away the hours.

[26:37:51] Perfect for the bathroom and if anybody asks what you're doing, I'm gobbling not pickle.

[26:37:54] That's what I'm doing, I've got a high score.

[26:37:56] And it'll spray vinegar in your mouth all day.

[26:37:59] But of course, the reason they are showing that, and Alex mentioned earlier, I'm not

[26:38:02] putting anything in my mouth, is you guys are very $22,227 he does.

[26:38:06] Very true, if a game is full of games full of which is providing wonderful

[26:38:10] entertainment and distraction therapy to kids who are trapped in hospital with

[26:38:14] horrible disease like cancer and things like that where they just can't get a

[26:38:16] hospital lose their childhood as a way of spending some time there without

[26:38:20] literally staring at a hospital wall. Yes. For anybody who spent any amount of

[26:38:24] time in hospital you know how miserable it is and imagine if you did that as a

[26:38:27] kid it would be pretty grim but not only that they also provide after

[26:38:31] care for them to help them with their education get trying to get them

[26:38:34] back into car up with what the rest of their friends have been doing while playing. So wonderful

[26:38:38] cars and a great way of sending messages to us. If you fancy doing that, that is wonderful because

[26:38:43] we've got scuffed cosplay coming for you, RC Rumble, all sorts of cool things we're doing here in

[26:38:48] order to a little bit of encouragement, but it's all for a good cause. Yeah, really,

[26:38:51] really is. And you guys have been so, so generous up to this point to keep those

[26:38:54] donations going as we're working our way through the last two bosses in the Narrowbar Palace,

[26:38:59] probably got ourselves, I don't know, probably until around Friday or so until this is all

[26:39:03] wrapped up. I mean there's no way

[26:39:06] Answers like a 700 puller. Right. So until sunday until this is all wrapped up.

[26:39:12] I am getting like 200, 250 pull vibe from Answers. I don't know why.

[26:39:20] Just going to go to the wire after this research. Yeah just seeing how that they've kind of

[26:39:25] I think it was a little bit of a anomaly, a little bit of a freak sort of accident

[26:39:30] that the two bosses in the center were so tough.

[26:39:32] Do you think so?

[26:39:33] See, I'm in the opposite camp.

[26:39:35] If they did it on purpose,

[26:39:36] then I think they've made a mistake

[26:39:38] by doing it on purpose.

[26:39:39] Interesting.

[26:39:41] Not because of the race,

[26:39:42] I think it worked very well for the race,

[26:39:44] but they might have forgotten

[26:39:45] that at the moment we have over 380 guilds

[26:39:48] killing four bosses on Mythic.

[26:39:50] That's the mistake.

[26:39:51] And for sure, there's only seven guilds

[26:39:52] who have killed five.

[26:39:54] So we've got like 370 odd guilds

[26:39:57] who are just like,

[26:39:59] Well, this is fun.

[26:40:00] Yeah, that is fun.

[26:40:02] I think it might even be more than that.

[26:40:04] I think that might include all of the data from the Chinese servers and whatnot.

[26:40:09] So, yeah, I think that's the main issue.

[26:40:11] If I was playing the game right now, I'd be a bit like, but they are doing nerfs, and we'll

[26:40:14] of course be getting buffs and stuff like that.

[26:40:15] So I think that's the major drop.

[26:40:17] If the raid was bigger, then you could have had it so that the last four glasses,

[26:40:21] similar to something like Sepulchre where, you know, Anduin onwards was rough

[26:40:27] because there was already so many buses in between

[26:40:29] that had like these little mechanical checks

[26:40:30] that guilds like Echo and Liquid absolutely stomped through,

[26:40:36] having no issues whatsoever.

[26:40:38] But now the, obviously there wasn't enough of those.

[26:40:41] Yeah, I fully agree with your stance there.

[26:40:43] I think the rate, I think a lesson taken away

[26:40:45] from this one is you probably want at least a 10 bus raid

[26:40:48] to allow a less steeper gap between your really hard bosses

[26:40:53] and your, you know, your entryway bosses.

[26:40:56] Let's call them just allow that smooth progression through because we did have like end the wind was a solid first end boss

[26:41:03] for the vast vast majority of guilds. Yeah, and

[26:41:07] Similarly, we have the biz like smoldering

[26:41:09] Great end boss for a lot of guilds for sure the first week pushes, you know, you top 200s and you know above

[26:41:15] Everything in between that was great for them. But we haven't had that this time

[26:41:19] I would say my anomaly though for given what we've seen. Yeah is actually this one

[26:41:24] I think they took the feedback a little bit. I think this is supposed to be harder than what it is

[26:41:29] I know echo haven't killed the end and now wiping in phase one, but you get what I'm saying

[26:41:32] is that

[26:41:34] It's it does feel a little out of line with what's come before especially Nexus princess

[26:41:39] Which they tuned and fine-tuned HP for me very intentionally to be as challenging as it was

[26:41:44] But if you look back at the entirety of us expansion and then include this

[26:41:48] I think this is actually quite a normal Hanama bus. Kindle was crazy didn't make any sense

[26:41:54] super nuts weren't expecting it but if you look at brood keeper which was the

[26:41:59] little boss going about sporting all the ads and whatnot at the end of vault of

[26:42:05] the Incarnate just before Razorgeath oh yes that boss that's about it that's my

[26:42:12] description a little bit dull a little bit easy to kind of overcome it was a

[26:42:16] cool fight to like get down the first time but it was not everyone's favorite

[26:42:21] Then you look at Echo and Eltherian that's also kind of around this but I think it was around a whole surprisingly easy if I'm a 70

[26:42:26] I want to say yeah, was it they managed to it got by a private order

[26:42:30] I think that was where Blizzard were like, okay

[26:42:31] We're giving you this really hard mechanic to do and you haven't got we cores anymore and the girls went back right

[26:42:37] That's true, but we can also just go and now everything's just we cord yeah in the same way

[26:42:44] It was like the first I don't show it was the first two or the second two

[26:42:47] where they were really trying to make this departure from weak or a heavy fights with that they went a little overboard though

[26:42:54] It was too fast to not do without week or so of course it was all by week or so

[26:42:57] Yeah, like my vibe generally is though is that in the like sort of in my mind's I like in terms of the end

[26:43:03] Like what a penot on the boss is supposed to be something in that region that say if you want the end boss to be 300

[26:43:08] Pools you want the penot on the list to live somewhere in that 150 to 200 range which this perfectly fits

[26:43:13] Tindra was an anomaly. What this boss could have been would have blown that out of the water and been even worse

[26:43:19] You know so I think for the help of the game makes a lot of sense

[26:43:23] Maybe if we really want to see you this fight in its true glory

[26:43:26] They could redo it and maybe remix it with other bosses and maybe like it make it a really long encounter

[26:43:32] Maybe do it like a limited amount of people maybe like 10 man or something

[26:43:36] Hmm, so I wouldn't have it drop gear so the people don't feel fast to do that

[26:43:39] I'd have it drop like cosmetics

[26:43:41] So let's say you get a really cool weapon skin.

[26:43:45] Yeah, that'll be awesome.

[26:43:46] Like one specific weapon skin for each class.

[26:43:49] That would be cool.

[26:43:50] So it'd be really cool.

[26:43:51] It's not a title or anything,

[26:43:52] but you could just tell if someone's got

[26:43:53] this really cool transmog.

[26:43:54] It's like, oh, they did like,

[26:43:57] what would we call it?

[26:43:58] Like expert mode.

[26:44:00] I don't know.

[26:44:01] Well, either way, like the achievement

[26:44:02] would be pretty ultimate.

[26:44:03] So that would be an ultimate thing to do.

[26:44:05] Yeah.

[26:44:06] And you can make it, if it's 10-man as well,

[26:44:08] you can make it so the fights are so difficult

[26:44:10] can even boost it. That's crazy. So the people that did get it, would you make it so they're evergreen?

[26:44:15] So let's say somebody wanted that skin but they obviously weren't able to do it now that maybe

[26:44:19] they could come back in the future. Oh that's a cool idea. Maybe you could like sync it with some

[26:44:22] sort of like time walking style system. I like Flashpoint it in time. Yeah. Like it stores the

[26:44:28] characters. So you know what they were at that time. That would be cool. So then if you

[26:44:33] did get stronger gear it could have a little effect on it but like nothing major. Yeah right

[26:44:37] Just to be a bit stronger, yeah. That'd be cool. That was sweet. We should become game designers.

[26:44:44] I'm sure Blizzard have no idea I've never considered that as an idea before.

[26:44:48] I think we just solved video games.

[26:44:50] Well done, Mike. That was us.

[26:44:52] High-fives.

[26:44:53] Just real day at work.

[26:44:55] Oh, dude.

[26:44:56] It's what we get done every single step in the way.

[26:44:59] Every single session, me and Mike solving the world's gaming problems.

[26:45:03] Next, housing.

[26:45:05] And we thought we could die our game, maybe.

[26:45:08] I think a lot of people would like sort of like a mage tower sort of style experience with

[26:45:15] like difficult markers.

[26:45:16] Yeah, apparently I haven't tried it yet.

[26:45:17] The delve mage tower quote and quote is just kind of impossible for most classes right

[26:45:23] now.

[26:45:24] I haven't yet to try it, so please take that with a pinch of salt.

[26:45:26] I've done the first version because that was very easy.

[26:45:28] One shot it, but...

[26:45:29] Are you talking about the question mark difficulty?

[26:45:31] Yeah, I went in.

[26:45:32] I went down and it was like oh crush your art difficulty. Oh, this is kind of tickling my balls in the right place

[26:45:38] You know, I mean, you know

[26:45:43] It was like one shot I was like, oh, okay

[26:45:46] And then ah, well, have you tried question mark question mark? But you gotta do a Dell 10

[26:45:51] I haven't been bothered to do that yet

[26:45:52] So I haven't got my teeth into this expansion enough just yet

[26:45:55] I'm I am and are after each race

[26:45:57] I it's kind of feels random as to whether or not I'm gonna be sending it

[26:46:00] I'm getting getting the vibe that I might be playing a little bit. I'm after after race

[26:46:04] I think you're always gonna have fun with the tier for a good month or so

[26:46:07] Even if you're not planning to stick around for the whole thing, which is fine by the way

[26:46:10] So a lot of us play these days is like I consume the vast majority of the day

[26:46:14] I'll leave I'll leave some of the bits on the sides like that's okay. Um

[26:46:19] But yeah, I'm feeling that too. He's okay

[26:46:21] Yeah, you do get plenty of time with the first one before it detonates

[26:46:24] So you can sort of crumble your way over. It's just so chill for ranged. Yeah, it's actually jokes

[26:46:29] You're compared to what the melee do, it's such jokes.

[26:46:32] You're full AFK.

[26:46:33] Alright, who's won, done.

[26:46:34] Excellent.

[26:46:35] So we're going to be seeing some grips.

[26:46:36] This is the thing they've been mainly struggling here with is that the boss will be indeed

[26:46:41] using Web Vortex, going to be dragging in all of the red team right now.

[26:46:45] Hopefully they're not going to clip any of the blue team and the blue team are

[26:46:47] now also going to go and break their chains now.

[26:46:51] Then they've got to go and soak the orbs.

[26:46:52] When you're gripped in, you do spawn the orbs.

[26:46:53] You can see, but they don't go for the same sort of direct strap right now

[26:46:57] that Liquid were doing where you soak as you move out.

[26:47:01] Instead, they focus on breaking their chains as soon as possible

[26:47:04] and then returning to come and do their soak,

[26:47:06] which is a different idea.

[26:47:08] I don't think it's going to be what they do in the last phase

[26:47:10] because of course you need to keep some of those chains

[26:47:12] in order to stun a Nuberax charge across the room.

[26:47:18] A Nuberash is sorry, charge across the room.

[26:47:20] So it's gonna be a little bit different in phase three.

[26:47:24] I thought that they'd be keeping the strategy though.

[26:47:26] So you could just like replicate it back to back, but obviously that's not what they're designed to do

[26:47:29] They're going for a better burn in phase two to reduce phase three. Maybe that that's why I'm seeing here

[26:47:36] Is that just they let their focusing up time more than maybe liquid did? Oh, I don't like that

[26:47:43] I don't like that

[26:47:45] The way that they oh no following me. I don't like that. It's I get what they're doing, but um, it's spooky

[26:47:52] Yeah, like you're they look like they're trying to like go to the left and right of the

[26:47:57] the second team

[26:47:59] But that can lead that if the like so the red team there we're gonna be like the sorry

[26:48:04] The blue team are gonna go to the sides of the red team that we're gonna get grip through the middle

[26:48:07] But if you're just one person out of place, then you will have a collision like we did have

[26:48:11] We can see that big boom

[26:48:13] Doing so fast by the way

[26:48:15] It's really quick one thing that I think you want to do actually is get it to the very very last second of the

[26:48:21] cast because it increases the time that you get in this phase this fight hasn't got a

[26:48:25] it doesn't seem to at least have an enrage based on the overall fight timer

[26:48:29] it's each phase lasts for x seconds so the first phase lasts until the boss has

[26:48:35] done two charges the second phase lasts until the boss has been stunned twice and

[26:48:38] then they'll be like one of two abilities and then she'll leave same with the

[26:48:42] intermissions they last until you break the shield and then the last phase

[26:48:45] just lasts three minutes from when you enter it so the longer you can

[26:48:50] Anything you can do to increase the time in your phase the better what happened

[26:49:12] You see over there on the left hand side someone's on it in a impaling spike

[26:49:15] Um, so someone of the blue team got stunned up in that spike

[26:49:19] We were going over to help them

[26:49:21] But canyx just decided to help them by just removing them from this mortal coil and just having the red

[26:49:25] You can't tell who's in it. It was very difficult to see. I think you can just tell but I think canyx missed it

[26:49:31] It was it was opening a present. There's a boxing glove inside it

[26:49:35] That's what it looked like to me. He's like, I'll help you friend. Oh god

[26:49:40] Oh

[26:49:42] Full of shame phase 3 baby gonna see red team now going this is a liquid special

[26:49:47] Here that they I don't know if I can we're using this towards the end of their day

[26:49:51] So I'm sorry if they will tell us we thought of it last year, but yeah for sure, but they're gonna be baiting the

[26:49:56] Frontal gonna have a little bit of a we damage coming in here from a new borash

[26:50:00] Who is that stinging swarm that unleashed swarm?

[26:50:03] Excuse me just doing ever-increasing damage to the group

[26:50:05] But now one team is towards the wall one team is towards the side

[26:50:08] You can see that the grip has gone through you're gonna soak some oxygen you go along you know for getting three orbs. Oh

[26:50:14] Yeah, that didn't look how it's supposed to it's supposed to be more chill than that

[26:50:19] They should be red should be more spread because you really oh that was a blink snap

[26:50:24] So I think what they're doing is they're making it so red team is

[26:50:28] Always the team that are going to be doing the tethers

[26:50:31] Because you saw that red team did not break their chains there

[26:50:34] They didn't pass directly through the boss and said they got gripped in and they moved straight away to the right hand side from their perspective

[26:50:40] Right, so they went in and to the right in order to keep their tethers alive where it's a blue team

[26:50:44] They went into the boss and then just kind of died

[26:50:51] As soon as blue just you can't just face roll into all the ops. Mmm. That is super sketch

[26:50:56] I was very scared. Yeah, you get dragged in and you present it with this wall of red

[26:50:59] If you get three of them you mark for death like you don't want that so they need to be

[26:51:04] Spread out and then holding on to them

[26:51:06] But if it's interesting if they can keep the red team do that because I was in the impression that it

[26:51:10] Kind of randomly chooses whether blues going first. I think it goes blue then red then blue then red

[26:51:14] I'm not telling you sure you could totally on who the first dragon is so the way that the drags work for me

[26:51:20] At least in my mind's eye it was entirely rounder, but you could be right in terms of we might know

[26:51:24] Who's gonna be going in first but it seems that

[26:51:26] The fact that we had it so that the red team who were gripped in first was still the people who held onto their tethers in order to do the thing

[26:51:34] Well, here we go. This is Ryzen's part. Oh, it's Ryzen! Watch the Valiant Blue team come to help!

[26:51:41] Canyx is like, I'll save you!

[26:51:43] Here's my mighty spells!

[26:51:50] Oh Ryzen's smile, it's funny.

[26:51:52] Oh, I think it's probably probably a bit annoyed himself for getting stunned. He does. Yeah

[26:51:57] He just take it personally if he fails a mechanic. Yeah, this fight obviously already very difficult for the healers

[26:52:02] But uh that on top of it. It's nice to see a bit more of a healing normal ceiling setup though

[26:52:06] Oh, yeah, yeah, and we've been less and stressful a little bit. Yes

[26:52:11] Yeah, no, it was very degenerate the healing comps that have been required this far or not required

[26:52:16] But at least utilize by the top teams where it's just like how many preservation of focus could I fit in this cop?

[26:52:21] while still maintaining raid buffs or maybe potential healing CDs such as like

[26:52:26] Spareling Leam I want but have you heard of our Lord and Savior in Gulf?

[26:52:30] Pretty much. Let me tell you about in Gulf and how it works. I'm just surprised at how

[26:52:36] heavy evokers have turned up and not necessarily just Org. No. We've seen quite a lot of Dev as well,

[26:52:41] mainly from Liquid. Liquid have been really really pushing their Dev and it's a great effect

[26:52:45] telling me wrong. It makes me feel bad because I was playing Dev in week one. I wasn't doing that

[26:52:50] Well, I'm starting to think maybe it was me. Is it a me problem? You know, the less you think about it the better

[26:52:57] Are you having fun? I am now that what's that's what matters. I'm having fun now

[26:53:02] That's what the less I think the more fun I have. Yeah, yeah, I mean have you thought of turning off your meters?

[26:53:08] Might be for the best. Well, the thing is I don't have it so I'm always on my meters

[26:53:12] I have the top 10 so I might as well have not had my meters. Yeah, I don't do that either

[26:53:16] I don't know it's something about having that on I get why you do it

[26:53:19] But it also indicates that you're regularly not in the top. Yeah, so you just have to not that it might be your fault

[26:53:26] That's giving you some class imbalance

[26:53:29] week one I

[26:53:30] Was missing my buffs

[26:53:33] The music stops so there we go. That's the end of it. Oh no, it's returned

[26:53:37] It was a bit about it's very short music loop, so I'm gonna make it last as long as possible

[26:53:43] Do you have a friend like Alex?

[26:53:46] You know someone who's suffering from small damage.

[26:53:50] If you do, it's not over for them.

[26:53:53] There are many things you can do.

[26:53:55] One, it's a game for love today.

[26:53:58] And people like Alex can learn to play games when they're younger.

[26:54:01] And maybe when they're older and senile.

[26:54:04] You can't find a hairpin.

[26:54:06] And maybe then, they'll do some damage.

[26:54:11] Trust me they won't, but it's a nice thought.

[26:54:13] We can all help in our own special way, that's what we can do.

[26:54:18] We've all been there.

[26:54:20] We can't win the damage all the time.

[26:54:22] That's Mark things.

[26:54:24] I just played Hunter and hope for the best.

[26:54:27] I can make dreams come true of my Hunter.

[26:54:30] God bless all the Raid Leader Hunters out there who are utilizing their mobility to get a lot of things done.

[26:54:36] They are wonderful people.

[26:54:37] Mainly majors I find making some of the best Raid Leaders though.

[26:54:40] Surprisingly enough.

[26:54:41] Historically pretty good, Skype, Kuznam, Kuznam, that's it.

[26:54:46] Yep, there we go.

[26:54:48] The two raid leaders.

[26:54:50] A very, very short yet strong list.

[26:54:52] I mean, this is pre-outside raid leader.

[26:54:54] Yeah?

[26:54:55] Right, in the old days, pre-Nailotha, I want to say.

[26:54:59] Yeah, Nailotha was the first time we saw it used to a very public effect.

[26:55:04] I'm not sure of, well, I'm sure there has been times in the past we've had it here and there.

[26:55:08] Actually, I do believe that Maxine Liquid, it was a limit of the time, whatever, used it on the Penochromus boss of the Azsara tier, which is Zakuul, it might not be Zakuul, the guy with the tentacle guy in the realm, Queen Azsara, because again, mechanics, that was one tankable, and he thought the other tank would be better and he could call it from the outside, and then they were like, oh, this is kind of cool, I think that's the history behind it, could be talking nonsense, but that's also what I'm here to do, Shadow Priest fun.

[26:55:38] Shadow Priest fun. Yeah that fight was Shadow Priest fun you said the Shadow

[26:55:42] Priest out on their own it's that secondary round and they just survived forever.

[26:55:45] Yeah it was the only fight Fingal was interested in. No one was interested in

[26:55:49] as are though. No. I watched the O'Reil Kill more recently again just

[26:55:54] happened to watch it back. Did you see me? Yes. I was there as well. Do you remember

[26:55:59] the city little intermission phases where the difficult part was just

[26:56:03] you're finding a week or other works it was so painful it's weird that the

[26:56:09] argument against add-ons specifically targeting week or a week where people

[26:56:13] say we ban add-ons they generally refer to week or as normal crap what you

[26:56:17] use frames look like it's so highlighted now but it was so much worse yeah like

[26:56:24] so this is heaven compared to what we used to have to have really is it's

[26:56:28] generally because Blizzard have taken into account what players can do and I

[26:56:32] think they move away from those sorts of mechanics because they know that it was

[26:56:36] being entirely annihilated by the player base. Partistically, outside of boss time

[26:56:42] as hell, what do you need an add-on for in here, weak aura wise?

[26:56:46] Need? I was having this argument with some people the day, like I agree,

[26:56:52] Brute Twister kind of needed weak aura to match people up. That in my

[26:56:58] opinion is a bit of a pointless mechanic. Yeah, but what on this fight do you

[26:57:02] need a weak aura for. Not much, if anything. Like it helps, don't get me wrong, they're

[26:57:09] always additional helps. They're assigning how they're breaking their chains with a weak

[26:57:14] aura, some of them have sometimes been told to go left, sometimes told to be going right

[26:57:18] based on who you're paired with. I don't know if that's exactly what the weak aura

[26:57:21] is doing. In terms of need, need, need, need, nothing yet, it comes to mind. And similar

[26:57:27] with um if you think about the last boss on um heroic at least um that's right

[26:57:35] doesn't need answer it does not need any week or um yeah that's how you really

[26:57:41] have done the try I commend buzz it they've done a really really good job I

[26:57:44] think brute swiss there's kind of the odd one out and no doubt there'll be

[26:57:46] something really bizarre and funky on answer ethnic oh yeah but so far there

[26:57:52] really hasn't been anything that's like we don't even need it on sick

[26:57:55] either you can't use your Instagram for the phaseblades, but like the game is the

[26:58:00] weak aura, except you can't really use it to judge and there's no need to either,

[26:58:03] you just play the game. Yeah, you're right, there's not a whole lot that you need weak

[26:58:08] auras for. Very good, the spells are very obvious on the raid frames and you're just

[26:58:12] calling people out, you do not need a weak aura for the order. You don't need,

[26:58:15] but once again, anything that they can pull, yes, so like the top end you'll

[26:58:19] see them using weak auras for a whole host of things and that's just because

[26:58:22] Because when they need to kill the boss as soon as possible, anything that they can allow

[26:58:26] the players just to be able to visually see without having to have Scribe call it out

[26:58:30] or have Roger call it out like, oh, the cones are exploding in two, one, two, one, you know,

[26:58:36] as each cone explodes, instead of just having like a segmented bar week or that shows

[26:58:40] when those cones are going to explode, like that's way better for the players.

[26:58:43] They don't need to have that sort of noise.

[26:58:45] I remember if anyone actually watched the top, you could go watch it on the Echoes

[26:58:49] channel now, the ultimate kill that we did in Final Fantasy Most recently, because you don't

[26:58:54] have things like Weakor as in that game, there was a dance that we had to do with a very strict

[26:58:58] rhythm, oh yeah, on Omega, and yeah this is on Omega, right at the very end, and Roger was going,

[26:59:05] he had like a little song that he would sing, to a very specific rhythm and we moved to that

[26:59:11] rhythm. The rhythm is like out, boom, boom, in, boom, boom, like the whole time. I was

[26:59:17] like, yeah, okay, I can get behind this one. It worked. The boss died, but that's what we

[26:59:22] call as a mainly here for Echo to do is to avoid the playing 7-7-2 to Roger seeing them

[26:59:27] for eight hours.

[26:59:28] Yeah, I want that. I want some Roger the Dorset tones.

[26:59:34] Yeah, I think there's some things that they might be able to do a little bit nicer.

[26:59:38] Like as an example when you've soaked two or dots here, there's some things that like

[26:59:41] we currently are incredibly useful for, but I wouldn't say that they're by any means

[26:59:46] necessarily mandatory.

[26:59:47] Not so far.

[26:59:48] Unless I'm missing out on something really obvious, which chances are.

[26:59:53] But if anything, it's a lot of reminders for the guys, like I spot now, you know,

[26:59:57] this is coming soon.

[26:59:58] Like those are little reminders to stop calls happening, but also come with experience.

[27:00:01] Like the guys aren't paying any attention, so they might believe me.

[27:00:04] If anything, it's a case of being 200 pulls deep and maybe forgetting that one

[27:00:07] pool. And you're like, oh, I suppose the wise block there. And I forgot another thing as

[27:00:12] well is that the bosses are much more nowadays, dance based in terms of the bosses always

[27:00:18] do the same mechanics at the same time. beforehand, it would be to the way the spell queuing

[27:00:23] works or the way that you do change between different phases, the bosses would start

[27:00:26] with different orders. So having a boss time and knowing whether or not the, you know,

[27:00:32] the boss is going to do a tail swipe or like a breath.

[27:00:35] That before was like big wigs or DBM were there

[27:00:38] to really help with that.

[27:00:39] Nowadays, I'm pretty sure you could sit most of these players

[27:00:43] down now and they'll be able to tell you exactly

[27:00:45] how the flow of this fight goes without really needing

[27:00:47] chart timers, you know what I mean?

[27:00:48] Yeah, it's all, in fact, I think Blizzard has done

[27:00:50] tremendous job with just utilizing the energy bar

[27:00:53] properly.

[27:00:54] The energy bar has been something that most people

[27:00:57] didn't pay attention to for years

[27:00:58] because you had boss mods and it was honestly

[27:01:00] not that relevant. These days the energy bar is super relevant. Well, energy is full, we're

[27:01:04] going into submission. You don't need to, you can see it filling, you can predict it, you

[27:01:07] can call it as a raid leader if someone's not noticing, it's like, okay, we're going

[27:01:10] into the submission now, we can see it happening. This is helpful with the damage points. They

[27:01:15] know exactly when they're going to drop the orb, so it's a little reminder of like,

[27:01:18] hey, you should be pretty spread here because so people don't have three orbs still

[27:01:21] on top of each other. Do you see how they quickly run back to the left, by

[27:01:24] the way, to drop it off so people can go pick up a little bit quicker? It seems

[27:01:27] That's pretty cute.

[27:01:28] That's the mic what we were talking about right?

[27:01:31] What?

[27:01:32] Look at that.

[27:01:33] He just got knocked back into another player as well.

[27:01:36] I think that's...

[27:01:37] Run, Chemex!

[27:01:38] It does happen.

[27:01:39] It does happen.

[27:01:40] They seem to be going for a little bit of a rough patch here.

[27:01:43] They're just going to send it now.

[27:01:45] They're looking to...

[27:01:46] Now they want phase 2, Prog.

[27:01:47] If they have a little scuffer in phase 1, it's not worth really going forward.

[27:01:50] What are you going to learn?

[27:01:52] We want to get to...

[27:01:53] We want clean phase 2 as the next stop.

[27:01:54] They've been going for like an hour after lunch.

[27:01:58] Yeah, they only go for an hour after lunch.

[27:02:00] Phase one is relatively solved again

[27:02:01] with the new technique.

[27:02:02] Phase two is getting cleaner.

[27:02:04] I still don't really know what they're doing with their webs.

[27:02:06] I don't like it.

[27:02:07] You don't like it.

[27:02:08] It looks very cool.

[27:02:09] It scares me.

[27:02:09] It does scare me.

[27:02:11] So I hope that it becomes cleaner and they're scary.

[27:02:14] We'll see.

[27:02:15] We'll see how it all pays off.

[27:02:16] Because the fact that you're kind of going around

[27:02:19] the other team that's getting dragged through the middle,

[27:02:21] all it takes is one person to be out of position.

[27:02:23] so many chances of a very very important person dying. I think that once you're dead on the

[27:02:27] ground you can't kill more people. So chances are it will only kill one person.

[27:02:30] No you're not one-minds. Yes. We checked that.

[27:02:33] So you know it shouldn't necessarily be the end of the world if someone does die there but it

[27:02:37] feels like maybe there might be a slightly cleaner strap available. We'll see.

[27:02:40] Well you've always heard on the side of caution because you don't trust us to

[27:02:43] murder ourselves horribly. True. Yeah. It's because I know how I play.

[27:02:46] And I don't trust me. You see the cigarettes playing. You're like hey

[27:02:50] Oh, what about this really risky strat that might save 10 seconds? Nope. Nope. Absolutely not.

[27:02:55] I don't trust you guys to open a can of beans. Frankly, no.

[27:02:59] Well, we can actually go and practice that if you want, Mike, because it seems like they have just popped a 5-minute break time

[27:03:04] and instead of us sitting here and chatting our way through it, I think instead we should

[27:03:09] take our break at the same time that those guys do. Maybe have a little bit of a listen in a way if anyone is still about.

[27:03:13] So we are always here for every part of Mythic Proc to walk through it. So we'll be back in a sec. Don't go anywhere.

[27:03:18] be back in a sec. Something certainly is afoot here as they seem to be struggling still with

[27:15:20] this web of pull-ins. Sometimes they weren't struggling with yesterday, so a changing strategy,

[27:15:24] a little bit of adjustment needed as we are losing players where we weren't previously,

[27:15:28] but welcome back to the Race to the World first in the near of our palace. We are working on the

[27:15:32] penultimate boss, Alex from Fapples TV joined by the wonderful Preach. Hello.

[27:15:36] Yeah, interesting stuff. Yeah, they're changing things that we don't know why yet.

[27:15:42] This is definitely, and analyzing it, this is a whole play to be like this is going to

[27:15:49] pay off for us in a bit we haven't seen yet, do you know what I mean, they're implementing

[27:15:54] changes to make sure that this works out really well for them in a little while, and they're

[27:16:01] learning it now rather than they don't need to go to the end to figure anything out,

[27:16:04] they saw the end day one, they even got to phase three with the all 20 sort of functional

[27:16:11] in day one, but it wasn't efficient or anything like that.

[27:16:14] It's not a kill strategy or anything along those lines.

[27:16:17] So now we're seeing them implementing these changes.

[27:16:19] So it's like, get it right now.

[27:16:20] I'll tell you what is interesting though.

[27:16:21] They seem to have made some sort of weak order.

[27:16:23] We're just talking about it, which is,

[27:16:25] I actually think it might be a little bit bait,

[27:16:27] which we can be, you can over a line on them,

[27:16:29] which is like, oh, you got grips, you go to the right.

[27:16:32] Now our assumption is it should be telling the partner

[27:16:34] to go to the left so that they snap as quickly as possible.

[27:16:37] So those webs do ridiculous damage.

[27:16:39] Like they really, really hurt.

[27:16:40] You want them out of there.

[27:16:41] It didn't work then it didn't look like it or whether it so it might also be weaker

[27:16:46] It's just saying on this dragon you go to the right

[27:16:48] So that the yeah, it's it's more just especially because you're looking at the boss one teams on one side one teams on the other

[27:16:54] If the weaker it tells both group

[27:16:57] No, it's Sally beans. Oh, we've been how are you being infected by the book those lips are bad. It's a Furby. Oh

[27:17:06] I was jinx from Pokemon

[27:17:11] There is a little bit of a I'm not a Furby much kind of sir. Unfortunately. I recently for

[27:17:17] Unknown reasons after last time I was on looked up furbies. There's a new type of Furby

[27:17:23] Looks nothing like the old Furby wait for a remark to yeah, but it changed

[27:17:29] I was talking to Chris about he said he used the term all these this is a zoomer Furby

[27:17:34] Like yeah, exactly it is. No, what a generation we live in. Yeah, I don't I don't like it

[27:17:40] I didn't like it at all and I didn't like that

[27:17:42] That was very distracting from our interesting point we were about to make about a week ago

[27:17:45] So please don't do that production

[27:17:47] No actually do keep that going

[27:17:49] It's a test

[27:17:50] At least it was no feet

[27:17:51] That's good, that is true

[27:17:52] We've got a Xalateff on the screen with no toes

[27:17:54] That'll do for me

[27:17:55] That is a rare proc

[27:18:00] So there is um

[27:18:01] Yeah it could very well be because both groups are looking at the boss from opposite angles

[27:18:05] If you're saying to both groups go right

[27:18:07] right once you're gripped in you are naturally going to pull away from each

[27:18:10] other because you know of the way that you know the world works the way that

[27:18:15] shapes are and perspective works so it could certainly be sunk along those

[27:18:20] lines. Are you alright? Yeah right? The right. I assume that was made the second

[27:18:25] this week or existence like wait who's right are we going like no just go to

[27:18:28] the right. You start here you'll go right and we doing clockwise but

[27:18:34] Are we doing clockwise counterclockwise?

[27:18:38] Oh, there was a, and I like this in chat as well.

[27:18:40] Um, Coggers, Coggers.

[27:18:42] Yeah.

[27:18:43] The idea of what clockwise and counterclockwise is.

[27:18:46] I don't think it's actually that well used in lots of countries

[27:18:49] because when it was brought up, yeah, I just don't think it's,

[27:18:51] I don't think it's a big thing.

[27:18:52] There's no restriction of clock ticks.

[27:18:54] Well, the thing is, is as we're getting older bike,

[27:18:56] there's some people who don't know how to read a manual

[27:18:59] sort of like old fashioned clock.

[27:19:01] You wanna watch?

[27:19:01] I do.

[27:19:02] I'm wearing a watch.

[27:19:03] But most people do wear a watch, a digital one.

[27:19:06] Oh my God.

[27:19:07] There's some people who don't know how-

[27:19:08] Please tell me you guys know who it clock is.

[27:19:10] Please, I beg of you.

[27:19:12] Tell me you know which way a clock ticks.

[27:19:14] Do you know that there's some people

[27:19:15] that have never been in a car

[27:19:16] with wind down windows, it's all been electric?

[27:19:18] That makes sense to me.

[27:19:19] That makes more sense than that.

[27:19:21] I mean, clocks still exist on walls

[27:19:22] than on all digital.

[27:19:24] Yeah, but, you know,

[27:19:25] you don't have to understand every aspect of life now,

[27:19:27] do you?

[27:19:28] I taught my kids very quickly how to read a clock.

[27:19:31] I was like, I am not having you being like-

[27:19:33] For some reason, when I was like six or something,

[27:19:35] I really wanted to have a watch.

[27:19:37] Really, really wanted one.

[27:19:37] I don't know why.

[27:19:38] And my dad was used to get me one

[27:19:40] until he taught me how to read it,

[27:19:42] which is right, which is the correct thing to do.

[27:19:43] Yeah, the other one was 24 hour clock.

[27:19:47] It took me a while for my boys to sink it in,

[27:19:50] but I was not having them look at like 1600 hours

[27:19:53] and being confused.

[27:19:55] For me, strangely enough,

[27:19:56] and I don't know if other people

[27:19:57] have to do this as well,

[27:19:58] maybe I'm just really stupid,

[27:20:00] but when I read certain like 1700s,

[27:20:03] Sometimes I have like okay take away 12 and it's fine. I just sometimes math it out. I'm not gonna lie

[27:20:10] I need to convert 24 hours into a more digestible thing with my brain. It's quick. I'm fast

[27:20:16] If I am doing the transaction in my head, I'm going

[27:20:22] It's because I think yeah in the day-to-day life whatever reason it's it's all you know

[27:20:27] I just if you say 8 30 it's just 8 30 in the evening or that denotes more contextual

[27:20:31] I am a boomer on this though, because when I set my alarm at night, we have a chatty box in the room

[27:20:36] and they'll check and film me with how dangerous that is and things, but I'll live.

[27:20:40] I say like, you set the clock for 0500, I do say that.

[27:20:45] Oh, something like, what are the personal assistants like?

[27:20:48] Yeah.

[27:20:49] They're all the ones with it.

[27:20:50] Oh, Siri likes it.

[27:20:52] Yeah, exactly, but if it's my phone, I'd be like, Siri set the alarm for 0500 instead of,

[27:20:57] and Emma looks at me every night with disgust.

[27:20:59] Oh really?

[27:21:00] hate you. I tell my phone when to wake me up I just say wake me up at 7 p.m. or wake

[27:21:04] me up at 7 a.m. I don't do it. It's very rare when I ask it to wake me up in the p.m. that's

[27:21:08] more of like a few years ago Alex now that we're out of COVID it's more of an a.m. wake

[27:21:12] up. Get this right. I know this is off topic don't worry they're not pulling. We had

[27:21:17] somebody who was coming to see us because we're in Germany and we've got friends here

[27:21:21] and things like that so we was like hey we're gonna be in Germany and we might have

[27:21:24] an evening free and it was on Saturday so we can go for dinner and it was it

[27:21:27] It was lovely, me, Jordan, lovely, and Ally, and the girl, all went to dinner somewhere.

[27:21:32] It was a lovely night.

[27:21:33] There was another person who was supposed to be coming, great friend of mine, who lives

[27:21:38] here, I know it's about 20 minutes away, couldn't come because they had D&D that night.

[27:21:44] There?

[27:21:45] And they had DM.

[27:21:46] Oh, well, there's even more reason than that, isn't there?

[27:21:48] Exactly.

[27:21:49] So it was like, okay, I can't come.

[27:21:50] I've got D&D that night.

[27:21:51] I'm like, all right, that's fine.

[27:21:52] It's cool.

[27:21:53] I'll see you tomorrow, whatever.

[27:21:54] They got cancelled

[27:21:56] So we could have come anyway. It's what it is sometimes that happens

[27:22:00] The reason they got cancelled is one of the players didn't wake up from that 8 p.m. Nap

[27:22:05] Pm nap correct. Are they like a working night or something?

[27:22:09] I've only met this person a few times who had this nap and they are a

[27:22:14] Bad person. Oh, but who in the hell is having an 8 p.m.

[27:22:19] nap time

[27:22:21] I don't know someone who has got a far better schedule than us Mike.

[27:22:25] What life do you lead to have an 8pm nap?

[27:22:28] 8pm on a Saturday.

[27:22:29] A one of luxury.

[27:22:30] 8pm nap time.

[27:22:31] When we was looking at the pet pictures, I think everyone's life goal is to eventually

[27:22:36] be able to have the schedule of a dog or a cat and do whatever the hell they like

[27:22:39] at any point.

[27:22:40] So I think that person who's just got to that point earlier than us and it's

[27:22:43] jealousy.

[27:22:44] I almost go, well they go, hold right, just roll up my back and stick my belly

[27:22:46] up.

[27:22:47] I think I'm the one who introduced the furbies into the stream, or is it I was talking to

[27:23:15] Nagura in the morning. Yes. Do you have naps? I don't nap. I don't really. Well, actually

[27:23:19] more recently I've been able to nap, but it completely screws me in the evening. So if I

[27:23:23] wake up and like a six o'clock in the morning or something, because I had something to do

[27:23:26] and I have a nap at two, it's then I'm not going to sleep until like three in the morning.

[27:23:30] Even if I only sleep for an hour, it completely screws me up. I just can't rest. I don't

[27:23:33] know. My business manager. Oh, yeah, I know he naps. He naps on his lunch break.

[27:23:40] like 30 minutes. He also naps at Raid Star. Really? He's been late for Raid Star. You

[27:23:48] do not remember that once, because he's very punctual. He is. And you know, he's not the

[27:23:53] one to kind of like rock up to a raid late. He was 10 minutes late. And I was like, oh,

[27:23:57] that's strange. We all pinged him on Discord and everything. He didn't respond. And after

[27:24:00] 20 minutes, I actually messaged you and I'm like, because you know, obviously you

[27:24:04] work together and I was just like dude is he okay? Is he sick? He slept for 90 minutes.

[27:24:11] I don't get it, he's like oh I took a nap on my lunch. The thing is is that when he turned

[27:24:15] up he was so apologetic and everything like that and was all like we're just happy you're

[27:24:18] alive. We're so worried. I have that effect as well because I'm usually very very on time

[27:24:23] and if I'm late for anything people are like what the hell has gone wrong? Like what has

[27:24:27] happened? I hate being late for things. Yeah I can't buy it. It'll be five minutes

[27:24:31] I'm good at five minutes early. I don't need to be like half an hour. Not to say that I'm not occasionally

[27:24:35] I occasionally am late, but I do not like the experience. It's a bad time bad time indeed

[27:24:40] I wish I could see to my wife that now great, but apparently not

[27:24:45] We are all see things in different ways. Yes. I see the time for what it is

[27:24:49] Clockwise or counterclockwise clockwise is traditional see how I brought us back to the original point

[27:24:55] All of the players going clockwise around the boss

[27:25:01] Let's watch kush pong.

[27:25:03] Oh, he's actually awake.

[27:25:05] Oh, he's set up now.

[27:25:06] You can tell he's awake.

[27:25:07] Look at the damage that he's able to slam out of the beginning here.

[27:25:10] It's going to be interesting to see what the damage meters look like at the end of this fight,

[27:25:13] as we've got some players in here that do an extreme amount of damage.

[27:25:17] Jesus kush.

[27:25:18] God, you see, that is that razor's edge that I tell people about with the best DPSs in the world.

[27:25:24] Most of us would have moved out of good few seconds before that charge, just in case, right?

[27:25:28] I just want to be safe enough.

[27:25:29] Nope.

[27:25:30] And well, I think most of us wouldn't have moved out, but that's because we didn't see it.

[27:25:34] Well, I don't know, it depends if he's casting glare at the time.

[27:25:40] That's true.

[27:25:40] So far, so good on one start this far into the phase.

[27:25:45] We had some problems in phase one.

[27:25:47] It feels like we've been doing a little bit of relearning.

[27:25:49] If you're just joining us and thinking like, oh, I could have been put in for an hour

[27:25:51] and a half or maybe two hours.

[27:25:52] How come we're struggling?

[27:25:54] It's because we've been doing some major changes to phase one and two.

[27:25:57] Well, there are actually a series of minor changes that have led to a series of small mistakes as we're learning how to

[27:26:04] redo aspects of the face

[27:26:06] But of course on a fight like this one small mistake getting a little bit too close to someone or not so can know when you're supposed to

[27:26:12] He's gonna lead to some disastrous outcomes. It's so so good needs to go down. There it is

[27:26:18] You can see the the communication now, but the unwritten unspoken communication now between junior world

[27:26:24] this goes absolutely on point remember yesterday when they first started i think it was me and you all

[27:26:27] right i can't remember me and jordan is they were tippy towing around like fredder staird oh yeah

[27:26:33] like i'm moving over here it looked like they were in uh like they were playing like a little playground

[27:26:38] school game where they're like you know running around with a skip rope or something um but yes

[27:26:43] we're entering the first intermission here uh something that is a lot more difficult for the

[27:26:47] melee than it is for the ranger you're going to see them rotating around the boss as often as

[27:26:51] as they can placing down their moats on the ground.

[27:26:56] That was going to happen.

[27:26:57] Oh, unfortunately losing two players there.

[27:26:59] But we do have an Ankh for one, and we will have a battle

[27:27:02] as available.

[27:27:02] Two minutes for Cush to knock the end of the world.

[27:27:05] They need to be a little bit more spread.

[27:27:07] And three stacks there for nice memes.

[27:27:09] Unfortunately, going down there, it's

[27:27:11] so easy for things to start going very per-shake very

[27:27:14] quickly on this fight.

[27:27:14] Yeah, they can only take two of these r's.

[27:27:16] But you can see if they're really clustered,

[27:27:18] how awkward it is to like.

[27:27:21] You don't need your friends to be trying to just touch the graze, the edge, to get there

[27:27:27] too.

[27:27:28] You want them to be a little spread out.

[27:27:29] You obviously want them all in a cluster in terms of they're close enough to each other,

[27:27:32] but also spreading enough that you can say, I'm getting these two, you'll get those two,

[27:27:36] and not accidentally stumbling into a third for whatever reason.

[27:27:40] So it's just a case of being more courteous, I guess is the word we're looking for to

[27:27:45] your friends here.

[27:27:46] It's like, yeah, you want to be on your marker, but spread out a little bit.

[27:27:50] would prefer it that way. This reminds me of actually, what was that boss that was made

[27:27:53] of gold in Battle of the Desert of Lore? That was Opulence. So Opulence, you would get an

[27:27:57] notification that you're going to be teleported soon. Oh, I was so on top of that. I don't

[27:28:02] care about your damage. Be nice to your partner. It's so much more important. You didn't get

[27:28:06] paired with Mikkel then. Interesting. What I call out on Discord and what actually

[27:28:12] ends up happening is not always the same thing. But they managed to do that

[27:28:16] That grip relatively well, unfortunately one player going down when Narko, unfortunately

[27:28:20] falling, I'm not sure if that was due to the grip or maybe he over soaked orbs but the pull

[27:28:24] in effect that we have been dealing with has been the major problem, the major re-progress

[27:28:30] point for Echo over the last couple of hours where T'Kaz, do you pronounce that?

[27:28:36] T'Kaz?

[27:28:37] I pronounce it Chungus.

[27:28:38] Chungus?

[27:28:39] No, this is the tall web priestess.

[27:28:40] Oh, that's Spider Lady.

[27:28:41] Spider Lady, the Spider Lady is going to grip us all in, that web vortex is going

[27:28:44] going to be kicking off in around three seconds. She's going to grip in one side of the raid

[27:28:50] and then the other. So you're going to be seeing here. Oh, that. How did he cancel that all

[27:28:55] the time? He did that with a blink. He literally blinked almost the same frame in which they

[27:28:59] were dragged in, but it was, they did manage to successfully do it. They do need to soak

[27:29:04] at a time. Yeah, they look like they have managed to get all of the orb. So this

[27:29:08] is the pain point that they have been struggling with. They're going to be getting these

[27:29:11] the spells underneath the boss one by one you can see that we core directly on

[27:29:14] telling him when to go in which is now he's going to be getting dispelled one

[27:29:18] by one we got one more dispel to go two more even so here comes the final one

[27:29:22] bam it's fine it is fine because the red team had no stacks by the time

[27:29:29] that all went off so not the end of the world they will all be taking a

[27:29:33] little bit of chicken damage here but there's no other rate damage going out

[27:29:35] a failure yes but unfortunately one that didn't end up having any impact as you

[27:29:40] see the boss teleporting over there and don't think we're getting any more web

[27:29:43] vortexes as it's going to be a new barrage getting very angry in the middle

[27:29:47] of the room as you're going to see a different strategy being used for the

[27:29:51] group here instead of having the range players go around in their pairs as

[27:29:55] they're doing these soaks instead everyone's just running around the

[27:29:58] boss doing a proper little rotate Ostra it's very scary as we're going to get

[27:30:03] another pulse of damage coming in soon where players are going to be

[27:30:05] spawning some orbs you see them going as far left as they can to

[27:30:08] spawn it for the team coming up next and then you could be going in and soaking the

[27:30:11] orgy just keep rotating round and around whilst dodging all of these circles on

[27:30:14] the ground. Oh, that was incredible. And still we're going on here into the last phase.

[27:30:27] Shields down, they did that clean. This is one of the best obviously we're 5%

[27:30:31] behind when we need to be kill wise and we have got players dead but you can see

[27:30:34] the pings going out as to where the spider lady is going to be spawning the skin spinner.

[27:30:39] And you can see the red team going over to one side of the boss, whilst the blue team stay

[27:30:44] on the other, because this is how we're going to be largely doing it, because now we need

[27:30:47] to be maintaining the webs afterwards, because we need to use them to stop the charge of

[27:30:51] the boss. So you're going to see them all heading over to one side. They can't be

[27:30:54] this stacked though, because all the orbs they're going to be spawning is going

[27:30:56] to be rough otherwise.

[27:30:57] Yeah, you don't want to make a wall.

[27:30:58] That's better.

[27:30:59] You can see them making pairs.

[27:31:00] Pairs is fine.

[27:31:01] Oh, they're making pairs.

[27:31:02] That's great.

[27:31:03] Yep.

[27:31:04] the right-hand side maintaining their webs whilst the blue team are going to be dragged through.

[27:31:08] This little red team is then going to go in and pick up the blue team's orbs whilst getting ready

[27:31:12] to deal with the upcoming charge. Here we are. Let's see if they're able to stun the boss.

[27:31:16] A little bit of a Monk of Steer in terms of getting the webs done, but it's going to be good.

[27:31:20] Four overkill it. One too many. Unfortunately, a few players going down as well. We will need to

[27:31:24] have actually get rid of this one. It's crazy. Also, they didn't manage to get an

[27:31:28] uber rush to be stunned directly on top of the skin spinner. I'm not sure if that is...

[27:31:32] You can't really on this one. Yeah, because the Skeensters went, uh, and Spider Lady ends up putting like a corner at this point.

[27:31:37] Yeah. Yeah. So you have to take that stun there. The best point they're looking for is in about two overlapses.

[27:31:42] They'll have them both stun direct center. And that's where the bloodlust comes in. Oh, yeah.

[27:31:46] You do so much damage. The boss is going down like 2% a second or something crazy. Yeah. It's like, in that 10 seconds,

[27:31:51] they'll burn almost 20, 25% of the boss's HP. Uh, and it'll just melt. It'll absolutely melt.

[27:31:57] So that is the bigger point they're looking for. And that was a new best pull for Echo there. Sure.

[27:32:01] Obviously, better please. We should be very happy about that. 42% and some change for that particular pool is excellent.

[27:32:12] We managed to get through phase 2 with the new web strategy. A couple of people going down. I still am not super keen on the new web strategy.

[27:32:19] I don't think Scryp is, but I've learned his expressionless expressions pretty well. He doesn't look convinced.

[27:32:25] But this, can we look at Roger, Roger putting the headset on?

[27:32:28] Guys, that was great.

[27:32:29] Trust me, bro.

[27:32:30] That's exactly what we wanted.

[27:32:31] You can see he is essentially talking into his Elgato wave.

[27:32:37] There he is.

[27:32:38] Trust, just trust.

[27:32:39] It works perfectly fine.

[27:32:41] Yeah, they'll be working out exactly what went wrong

[27:32:42] in that last phase.

[27:32:44] That last phase, it feels like once you've got

[27:32:45] the system in place, it's a repeatable one.

[27:32:47] Rather than having like eight different systems

[27:32:49] for a very long and complicated phase,

[27:32:51] it's how do we do with the webs?

[27:32:52] If you can do with the web grippings

[27:32:54] and able to soak all of those things,

[27:32:55] it feels very repeatable with small variations.

[27:32:58] So it is one of those fights,

[27:33:00] if we can consistently get into the last phase,

[27:33:02] things will start to click,

[27:33:03] the boss health will start to get chunked down

[27:33:05] incredibly quickly.

[27:33:06] So do make sure you stick around for that,

[27:33:08] as Echo are working on the penultimate boss here.

[27:33:11] And if they are able to get it down,

[27:33:12] within the next couple of hours,

[27:33:13] they will be incredibly happy,

[27:33:15] as it will allow them to get that little bit of information

[27:33:18] on the last boss of this tier.

[27:33:20] That's what they want to have before they go to bed,

[27:33:22] and they'll be going to bed early.

[27:33:24] I think they're going to try and stick to that 8pm or 2,200 hours.

[27:33:28] Yeah, it's actually 2pm here in Cologne, which means they've got about 6 hours left.

[27:33:34] So ideally they did hope to, I mean the goal was to have this done before dinner,

[27:33:38] so they can have dinner and then spend the evening on Ansarek.

[27:33:42] That is the game plan of Echo here.

[27:33:44] It's not actually, I think they might kill it before that.

[27:33:47] I'm not memeing like hoping that their progress is going forward quite quickly.

[27:33:51] And as we saw with Nexus Princess is once they get going we'll just cut off kill it and it'll be done

[27:33:59] So I'm thinking we're not too far away from a kill not like in the next 10 minutes or anything like that

[27:34:04] But certainly not going into the night. I don't think that's going to be the case for echo

[27:34:07] That's all here looking at how they've been progressing us now. We've seen phase one is almost

[27:34:12] Getting into phase two. I should say is very consistent now phase two is improving every time they're there

[27:34:17] Yes, and then it's like oh, this is the new bit like we just saw that in phase

[27:34:20] You know with in phase three with the they did this second intermission perfectly. Yep, right those two pairs of Debbie forehand

[27:34:26] Done fine phase three. We've not seen it too many times. Okay. I get it fine and everything here is

[27:34:32] Cyclical it's repeatable. Yeah, so there's a couple of really nasty overlaps. They have to deal with that was one of them

[27:34:37] We've led to a lot of player deaths. I've also seen it a couple of times. It's gonna be the same every time

[27:34:42] I think that'd be pretty fine. Yeah, I think yeah, you're right in terms of the way that the prog should flow

[27:34:47] It's about consistency at this point. You really need to make sure that you can get to the proc point over and over again

[27:34:52] you want to make it so that if we're wiping in phase one that that is a

[27:34:57] Sort of an exception rather than the expectation

[27:35:00] Because otherwise, you know you get into phase two and you're like oh crap

[27:35:03] This could be a pull where every face two should be like oh no

[27:35:06] This is just how we normally play and then eventually phase two gets into that incredibly clean points

[27:35:10] So then every time you get into phase three, it's like yeah, okay, cool

[27:35:12] This is just how we see this.

[27:35:14] Exactly.

[27:35:15] Yeah, I want to get to that phase three.

[27:35:16] And thankfully, the boss doesn't change that much.

[27:35:19] It's more a case of like on that's probably what they're

[27:35:21] watching now is like, look, this is that overlap.

[27:35:23] Let's go over it again.

[27:35:24] This is what you should do.

[27:35:25] This is what you shouldn't do.

[27:35:27] And you can tell these moments when they all

[27:35:28] turn to the screens like, let's just go over this again.

[27:35:30] So when we get there, I go never

[27:35:32] a fan of like not knowing what they should do

[27:35:34] before they get there, although they do stagger

[27:35:36] that information a little bit.

[27:35:37] And the thing is with what they might be doing as well

[27:35:39] is that someone died in a way that

[27:35:41] might be a little bit unique or in a way that like so it can be a learning

[27:35:45] opportunity like something one thing that you can be Roger obviously there all

[27:35:50] the time but one thing you can do as a player in your own rates is not learn

[27:35:54] from just your own mistakes that be have enough raid awareness to understand

[27:35:58] how other people screwed up because then if you you know are only I did this

[27:36:02] if only I was like slightly more to the left-hand side of the boss for

[27:36:05] that grip then it would have been fine that means that you're not

[27:36:07] gonna make that same mistake because you've learned from them and that's

[27:36:09] something that they're doing now they're definitely using their review tool in order to make sure that everyone can see

[27:36:14] This is how this person died not as a way of like calling them out

[27:36:17] But like this is a very easy way to die if we're not doing this strap properly

[27:36:20] Let's make a small change to it or let's set this as a new rule that we kind of overlooked otherwise

[27:36:25] This is you can't do this anymore

[27:36:27] You have to do it this way and hopefully that just increases the consistency which is what we're after here on the last

[27:36:33] Well, the problem the boss which what do you think Paul count wise actually because we're in one two three pulls now very cool

[27:36:39] Do we think that we're looking at a similar pool count 170 because it was 170 for liquid

[27:36:45] You think that we're going to be in the same sort of realm?

[27:36:47] I think so I don't think there's there's much that there's a weird fight right in general everything kind of makes sense

[27:36:53] Of how you would counter the orb mechanic of touching each other

[27:36:57] There's there's a couple of choices

[27:36:59] But realistically the way the fight works is like okay, we're going to drag blue so they need to be

[27:37:03] Boy, you can get that bit all that needs to be worked on which I think is actually going to take both skills

[27:37:08] a similar amount even though the strategy is kind of set in stone is the little bits because that's

[27:37:13] not something that you just take from the other guilds it depends on your players and we can already

[27:37:16] see that with Echo's strategy is they're not using the same classes to do the same things they're

[27:37:21] doing different things so it's going to be like okay this is how we're going to do it we're going

[27:37:26] to do it this way we can see they changed their mid strat to be a bit more uptime heavy so it

[27:37:30] got a bit more damaged because it's Echo and they're always looking for more damage every single

[27:37:33] So it's these little minutiae bits that are going through to make sure everybody knows and exactly what's going on that suits them.

[27:37:39] Taylor, Taylor, the overall, you know, the over-encompassing strategy to suit them a little bit, which is what they're doing now and finding the little flaws that all the other guilds of Liquid has dealt with, they ran into it, this is how they solved it, this is how we're going to solve it, and then go on to the next one again, it's about a thousand tiny cuts this fight.

[27:37:58] Oh, you're a tiny wretch.

[27:38:00] Someone runs the wrong way, okay.

[27:38:02] I see what he's saying, and I know when I was listening to Liquid earlier, there was like,

[27:38:07] I'm just slightly too slow compared to some of the other guys.

[27:38:09] My character is just a little bit slow.

[27:38:11] So I can't deal with it like in the way the strategy is overall.

[27:38:14] So it's like, okay, do what we need to do.

[27:38:16] Rescue, do what we want to do.

[27:38:17] Grip there, and we saw Grip come out rice and did a really great grip during that phase 2 intermission there.

[27:38:22] Because you can see his friend struggling.

[27:38:23] Grip him out.

[27:38:24] He's a bit slower than everything else.

[27:38:25] Because it's like, oh, we need to get from A to B around the boss and intermission, right?

[27:38:30] But I mean, you know, my demon hunt I can get there in one second, whereas I'm also casting a heal and doing that

[27:38:35] So I can't quite get it in that time. It's it's risky for me. It's not risky for you

[27:38:39] Okay, sure. Let's solve that and let's see what the issue is and is there a way we can do that

[27:38:44] We see we still seen some of the albs be far too clustered caught kush out. Yes

[27:38:48] Is is it's not like kush wants to soak anything. It's a rope like

[27:38:55] like every step of the way but you know he's moving into his arms and it's like

[27:38:59] there's three here great yeah there's no Cloak of Shadow saving you from that

[27:39:04] not all these are the other ways you would have an entire comp of just

[27:39:09] nothing but rogues and hunters just running around soaking all of the

[27:39:12] orbs at once like the olden days stunned on the owl yeah I'm a bit

[27:39:17] disappointed in this boss. Oh, we don't even have a hunter in doing. No soul and show F

[27:39:25] replaced by the power bin himself. boomkin dude. Everyone laughed at me was like the

[27:39:30] 100% we're having a boomkin in on every part. Like, can't laugh. Everyone laughed. The next

[27:39:35] joke, of course, is many is 100% convinced he is not seeing answer. Well, the thing is,

[27:39:41] if enhance is good, maybe it would be worth bringing him in. We did know about enhance,

[27:39:46] what he went if we're using my DK on unsurrect then that fight is way

[27:39:50] different than we think it is. There is no way I'm keeping breath up time on that

[27:39:54] fight. Yeah no he didn't he didn't seem super impressed but the thing is it'll be

[27:39:57] such a shame not to have many in he's really like just been an entire

[27:40:01] powerhouse this tier not that he hasn't been in previous tiers obviously but

[27:40:04] this year coming in and doing a big slam down on every single important

[27:40:08] fight coming in on his enhancement charm and beating Klex on the kill incredible

[27:40:14] You know, Clix is not an easy player to beat on the meters, I tell you that much.

[27:40:19] One of the youngest pickups that Echo got a long time ago, obviously former Limit player.

[27:40:24] That was when I first met him actually. I met him at BlizzCon, he was like, hi, I'm me,

[27:40:29] I play Limit, and you know, he was at the party where the players were chit-chatting

[27:40:34] with him, he was too young to drink, he was really cute. He was walking around the party

[27:40:39] and I was like, no, I'm not allowed to be here. I was like, it's a private

[27:40:42] party your lad and he was like I'm not drinking I'm gonna be the best like it's

[27:40:45] not happening good and then of course Roger walked over with like eight eight

[27:40:49] beers in his hands like blue is gone blue is gone I'm about to yeah I didn't

[27:40:57] really don't on me till now but considering what we've had with Brutes

[27:41:01] was there and then cabeza and then the law behind this boss the legacy of

[27:41:07] this boss from both echo and liquid is from the testing is like bro this

[27:41:10] thing is not super crazy. Yeah, this is full crazy. And then we got here. It's like, actually,

[27:41:16] it's not that bad. No, it's kind of okay. Turned out it's just a traffic fight. How do we move

[27:41:21] the people around that traffic? Yeah, it's pure if this was an RTS, you'd have a much nicer time.

[27:41:27] One around in little groups, we need more roundabouts. Do need more roundabouts. This

[27:41:31] fight would be solved with roundabouts, not junctions, excessive amounts of roundabouts

[27:41:36] a good traffic light and you'll find us they are doing roundabout strategy. The bosses are the

[27:41:42] roundabout and you can only go around in a certain direction. So it is very similar to that

[27:41:49] in many ways but they are of course going into another pool right now. Hopefully the

[27:41:54] problems that they were able to discover have been thoroughly talked about and sorted

[27:42:00] as we're going to be having the first of the melee running around one another in those

[27:42:03] groups making sure they're soaking each other's motes. Just a very very quick recap adds to the

[27:42:07] main new mechanic is of course that every single player in the raid is either red team or blue team

[27:42:12] and each time you take damage from specific abilities you will be spawning either well an

[27:42:16] orb of your color. The enemy team or the you know so the red team they spawn red orbs,

[27:42:20] blue people need to come and soak those orbs otherwise bad things happen. The problem is

[27:42:24] is that red players and blue players can't get within three yards of each other you can see

[27:42:27] the little circle around Wolf Disco right now. If anyone enters that red circle there isn't

[27:42:32] a red player, both of those people will die. Both Wolf Disco and whoever he runs into. So

[27:42:37] there's a lot of trying to keep the group separate. That's why you see them having

[27:42:41] so many struggles because mechanically, if you took away the mechanic low, I know,

[27:42:46] but if you took away that main red team, blue team, this fight is incredibly similar

[27:42:50] to how it is on heroic difficulty. You have things where you need to use like three webs

[27:42:54] in order to interrupt the charge rather than just the two five debuffs in order to interrupt

[27:42:59] the entropic entropy doom cataclysm cast whatever it is in phase two you have to

[27:43:04] five debuffs rather than just the um three so there's things like that small increases but

[27:43:09] largely speaking it's this red to team blue team thing going on unfortunately a couple of players

[27:43:13] dying at the beginning here but they are going to continue pushing all through it's only being

[27:43:16] Rebez as you can see those three tethers being dragged across yeah and it's just a little touchy touch

[27:43:24] not welcome to either players who have that happen it's instant death if you do touch some

[27:43:28] some of the opposite color.

[27:43:29] Yeah.

[27:43:30] But these big stems,

[27:43:31] I don't worry about the damage too much.

[27:43:32] I can tell you now,

[27:43:33] when they pop that lust,

[27:43:35] that 40% is gonna get real small real quick.

[27:43:38] Yeah.

[27:43:39] As long as they've got a few players alive there,

[27:43:40] because both of them are entangled and stunned

[27:43:43] at the exact same time,

[27:43:44] giving a 100% damage bonus on both and during cleave.

[27:43:48] So it's,

[27:43:49] they're gonna time their bloodlust

[27:43:51] to go along with that.

[27:43:52] And they're gonna be able to do double damage

[27:43:54] to both of them,

[27:43:55] while cleaving both of them at the exact same time.

[27:43:57] going to be in the dead center and that HP is just going to go

[27:43:59] pew. Oh yeah. I just disappear and then it'll be a race

[27:44:03] against time because it is the final overlap of mechanics

[27:44:06] before the enrage is imminent. Uh so they'll be looking to have

[27:44:09] that boss in sub 5% at least uh in order to finish it off

[27:44:14] after that moment. So that's what we're looking to see but

[27:44:16] right now we haven't seen them get to that point. They've

[27:44:19] got a little bit of positioning work to do uh until they

[27:44:21] get there. They're really dallying around to get these

[27:44:24] orbs there. Lost two more players unfortunately. I think Genji and Velo did indeed have a little

[27:44:29] bit of a hug. A forbidden hug. That should be Wolf Disco and Genji over in that area.

[27:44:34] So not entirely too sure how those two collided. I assume it was a collision because they both

[27:44:38] died at the same time in their opposite teams. We're going to open it up as well because

[27:44:42] we went into four stacks. Maybe. Oh no, that's the vulnerability section of the boss. That's

[27:44:46] normal. Okay. Yeah. But I think, because group one or two, they're in the blue team.

[27:44:51] three and four there in the red team. So if you ever see a death happening simultaneously

[27:44:55] in like, if you split the red team down the middle, then you can normally tell that it's

[27:44:58] indeed a collision that has caused that. Right gang. See how, oh, there are two splits.

[27:45:03] See? They're trying to. It does seem that red team is always trying to go red, but

[27:45:10] it doesn't always seem to be that the players are always following that. There's a theory

[27:45:14] It's happening.

[27:45:16] It's a theory.

[27:45:18] It's always interesting to see when you see both the reds

[27:45:22] just diver off in different paths.

[27:45:24] So they're trying to do some sort of split that may,

[27:45:26] I wonder if it's kind of a YOLO play,

[27:45:28] like in theory I'll work for some of you.

[27:45:31] Yeah, you don't need to do YOLO on that.

[27:45:33] Is that the thing?

[27:45:34] Yeah, I'd rather lose damage and be consistent

[27:45:39] rather than do YOLO,

[27:45:40] because right now we haven't even got to the point

[27:45:41] where we want to try and optimize damage.

[27:45:42] Obviously you want to start using reasonable strategies from the beginning

[27:45:45] You're not going to come in here with 18 Heels as an example, right?

[27:45:47] There's like no point, but like you do want to

[27:45:50] You don't want to start using strats have a 50% win rate. So to speak, you know

[27:45:55] Success rate especially when it happens so often. I'm not entirely too sure because there is a little bit of a

[27:46:00] Thing going on with the way that the blue team and the red team are dealing with their webs

[27:46:05] It's not too clear

[27:46:08] I think it might just be phase 3, so you just kind of ignore it on the first one.

[27:46:13] Maybe, but then again you can make the weak aura load in there.

[27:46:16] We'll send a message over, so it could also be, classic, your weak aura is full junk.

[27:46:21] Ignore the weak aura for now guys, we're working on it.

[27:46:25] It's happened so many times, actually it's just full junk.

[27:46:28] We find out afterwards, don't worry about it.

[27:46:31] Dude, that thing never worked, we sat here like, how does the weak aura work?

[27:46:34] It just doesn't, it really doesn't.

[27:46:36] So we'll see if they can get that down

[27:46:38] But yeah, the red team and the blue team definitely have different strategies in terms of how they do their positioning after the web grip in

[27:46:44] It seems like whatever caused the issue on that was not long enough for them to really get down to the very

[27:46:50] Bossome of it. The chances are it was just did I trolled? I made a mistake or oh, okay

[27:46:54] Slightly wrong positioning saying super easy to clear up and make work

[27:47:00] So yeah, it's going to be a hard part as you guys when you do make a mistake in raiding

[27:47:04] please say because it's so much quicker than having to dig through the logs I

[27:47:11] don't know what the problem is is it actual bigger issue we need to solve

[27:47:14] there's nothing worse than like yeah I made a whoops everybody makes a whoops

[27:47:18] it happens it's fine just say yeah I made a whoops and I know what I did okay

[27:47:23] just don't say that during the poll

[27:47:26] during the poll is the best guys you'll never guess what happened to me right

[27:47:30] so I stood for this guy it's just like yep and we're dealing with the

[27:47:33] new debuff in 2, 1, it's like, yeah so let me tell you how that happened, it's like,

[27:47:36] oh man, no, it goes down there, I think, obviously if he's solo dying, he, he took

[27:47:41] once too many ops, is what happened there, so probably, I know that he fell rush through

[27:47:46] what he thought was 2 and it was actually 3, which is what can happen there, so the

[27:47:50] combat res is used just again, that's a whoops, yeah, it looked like 2, that's

[27:47:55] not stacked in that much, yeah the idea is that they shouldn't be stacked

[27:47:58] in such a fashion actually, so it's, that would be something that's like we need

[27:48:02] to improve on that. But that's as simple as make sure that we're spreading properly by the way,

[27:48:05] like if people are forgetting. But then if someone, they might speak up rightfully so,

[27:48:09] if we're actually struggling to spread out the orbs, that's the time where you say,

[27:48:13] easily enough said, oh yeah, to spread out more bits, like, well, we got too many melee in this

[27:48:16] area, how do we actually sort this? You might want to just quickly take a moment to make sure

[27:48:20] you assign, you know, these little pairs that you only ever have groups of two orbs at any

[27:48:24] given time, so that you don't have your poor demon hunter who's desperately trying to jump

[27:48:28] around that you get anything done. Oh, I like that. If you pop an immunity, the Fix 8 does

[27:48:31] change target on the scarabs. Oh, cute. That's a bit of a scenario style where you'd have

[27:48:37] people pop immunities and they just send the- Fain death, dude. Just send the webs,

[27:48:41] uh, or the brambles. Yeah, that's what it was. Just send the brambles that somebody else

[27:48:45] who's probably stood, like, nearby. Like, dude, what the? Losing a ton of players once again.

[27:48:50] I think we're calling it white here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stand in the stuff, touch each other,

[27:48:53] do whatever you want. Yeah, give, it's time to hug. We're gonna hug it out on this

[27:48:57] As we're gonna be calling it as unfortunately these these these sort of pools will happen

[27:49:02] Yep, and we do want to obviously keep them to a minimum, but they will occasionally happen nothing to be done die

[27:49:07] Yeah

[27:49:09] And all fun as if they're if they yapping

[27:49:11] Yeah, true if they're in mid-speech, you know, it doesn't matter when the boss dies. Yeah, I suppose not

[27:49:16] I just I've an efficiency issue

[27:49:20] People if people

[27:49:30] It's okay.

[27:49:31] Okay.

[27:49:32] We all have issues, Mike.

[27:49:35] It's fine.

[27:49:37] It's all right, go on.

[27:49:38] I'm talking too anymore, I'm talking too inefficient.

[27:49:40] Oh, mate, this is what I'm saying.

[27:49:42] Oh, mate.

[27:49:43] I can't get my point out.

[27:49:44] I'm trying for an hour.

[27:49:46] Yeah.

[27:49:46] I'm just too inefficient.

[27:49:49] Oh.

[27:49:51] Damn.

[27:49:52] Yeah.

[27:49:53] Yeah.

[27:49:55] It's too dumb.

[27:49:56] Go away, you fool.

[27:49:57] Can't leave me alone.

[27:49:58] Oh!

[27:49:59] Yeah, it's production.

[27:50:00] Oh.

[27:50:01] The beans, viewers.

[27:50:02] That's not an efficiency issue is it can we move them to the showering down on Mike? I

[27:50:07] Think that'd be good Mike could take a little bean shower a

[27:50:11] Bower make you don't 3k

[27:50:18] Fall from the heavens make it happen

[27:50:21] Well, he's a couple of hours left before echo do you go to get there we go perfect

[27:50:25] Time to do my job. You know what I mean that this is your job. Yeah a little bit. Oh good more isolated shower

[27:50:32] hours over my face right now, big sad. This is for you. I like how I speak with all these

[27:50:37] beans in my mouth. All right. Well, in which case, yeah, we've got a couple more hours

[27:50:40] until we are going to be jumping into our food break. Yeah, they might have before

[27:50:48] then ideally, or at least in a position where they are consistently getting further in.

[27:50:53] Seems like right now, obviously, it's just one or two outstanding issues that are

[27:50:58] are causing us to get.

[27:50:59] It's got to be all of it.

[27:51:00] Get it.

[27:51:01] Oh, nice.

[27:51:02] Is this the fix to the left right week or could be?

[27:51:07] It could be.

[27:51:08] Yeah, I love that.

[27:51:09] Is this the fix to the left right week or I swear to God, if they fix this and it just

[27:51:13] goes perfectly smoothly from now, I want everything I said about week or is stricken

[27:51:17] from the record because it's totally unnecessary as well.

[27:51:21] Oh, they're on a breaky break.

[27:51:23] I see.

[27:51:24] Oh, thank you.

[27:51:25] Five minutes.

[27:51:26] Is there improvement in the week or fair play, fair play?

[27:51:28] It is what it is

[27:51:30] Yeah, let's go grab a tea

[27:51:33] We're gonna miss it because they're gonna make massive leaps in progress and I know you don't want to miss it either

[27:51:37] So we'll time our little two minutes with them. So we'll have a little listen wave and we'll be right back guys in a bit

[28:02:57] full

[28:02:58] Copium Gamber going on here

[28:03:02] With mr. Just wait, we're just on chat with a man. I've got a fiber

[28:03:06] He reckons this is dead in an hour. I think to I think never

[28:03:12] No, I think the boss I think it's I don't know. I think closer to like seven. I think it's gonna be post dinner

[28:03:22] Are you think so? I think we're estimating the little minutiae they're gonna have to do phase three. Yeah, I honestly do

[28:03:27] I think that the hardest thing about this entire fight is the web pulling

[28:03:31] But once you've got the basics of the how you want to do the movement system

[28:03:34] I feel that's like strategy wise the hardest thing for everyone to do correctly considering it's different every single time

[28:03:39] time, based on where the boss is, based on whether or not your group's in, who you attend

[28:03:43] the to, XYZ. That's the hard part. That's the thing they're still struggling with. And

[28:03:48] although we're seeing glimmers of hope in terms of the Prague, sometimes it's going a little

[28:03:52] bit better each time. We're still kind of hitting a wall pretty hard sometimes. So yeah,

[28:03:56] I'm a little worried in that sort of sense. That's my main concern. Don't get me wrong.

[28:04:00] I could be wrong on it. This is more of a vibe check rather than a definite, no,

[28:04:04] they've got hundreds of hours left. You know, if it clicks, then maybe, you know,

[28:04:08] it. We're going to push on through. They have a lot of times who we still in front of liquid in terms

[28:04:13] of time that you can spend on answer. I can all sorts of things. Obviously, the longer they spend

[28:04:16] here, the less time they have, but they still have like seven hours if they want to of raiding to

[28:04:22] do before they that's to reach their ideal bedtime. That's that's what they would look for

[28:04:27] is something on those lines. So not too worried at the moment, but maybe later on, we're

[28:04:33] like hmm but I've not been there I've not been a do-run this the progress has

[28:04:37] got more and more consistent every single pull pretty much they've had the odd

[28:04:40] one and two that's scuffed in phase one yeah but other than that they'd be like

[28:04:43] okay now we're getting space to consistently now we've seen phase three

[28:04:46] many times in the last hour yeah don't get me wrong the players are still

[28:04:49] feeling good I don't think they are feeling like a crazy amount of pressure

[28:04:52] either they know it does they want to get it down but it's not like oh

[28:04:55] we're behind in terms of the rate of our progression they're definitely on

[28:04:58] pace they should be feeling comfortable and they certainly are not seeing a

[28:05:01] a bunch of like agitation or concern. They're chilling. They're

[28:05:05] full, ready to keep sending it. They're enjoying the boss quite

[28:05:08] a lot of them as well, which is good to hear. So let's see how

[28:05:12] it all pans out. This feels more like a wild raid boss. I know

[28:05:14] it sounds weird, but it doesn't feel like you live it doesn't

[28:05:18] feel like you're living with the butcher's knives landing over

[28:05:21] your throat every second. There's some get out of jail

[28:05:24] free. There's a bit more leniency. You know, you've

[28:05:27] got your combat resist that you can, you know, actually is

[28:05:29] crazy. Things like that that they've not been used to for the last couple of days of prog you know

[28:05:34] all these things like I can actually immune things. Yay! I don't get executed the second my HP drops

[28:05:40] you know. I don't need a weaker that tells me at 40% you're about to die. Yeah nothing like that

[28:05:44] is happening on this one. It's a little bit more teamwork as you can see here with these webs

[28:05:48] perfectly demonstrating that where they've got this wonderful little partnership going on with

[28:05:52] their friends. It looks so good. When this fight is done correctly it's just this beautiful

[28:05:57] It's a really cool choreographed dance that it's like everything looks so deliberate and so well refined.

[28:06:03] It's just as soon as that goes wrong you can really see it.

[28:06:06] Whenever a thing, like you just have one or two orbs out of place or one or two missed orbs,

[28:06:10] the monk stare comes in real real quick and you have to do some crazy stuff in order to get everything back to control.

[28:06:15] It's actually quite nice because this is a fight where you can, as you say, is recoverable and you can even have those hero plays.

[28:06:20] If you know that orbs are going to go off and the majority of your team has two stacks,

[28:06:24] So, it's like throwing yourself on the grenade.

[28:06:26] So, I'll push through nicely the baits here to get that frontal away from the rest of them to keep that up time up.

[28:06:31] Actually, quite a lot of this fight that you can control to an extent in order to make life easier, which is exactly how Blizzard has designed it.

[28:06:39] Especially considering the difficulty of movement that's involved here, you have to be able to do those things.

[28:06:45] So, there's those three players, I guess, Frago.

[28:06:47] I think Frago and Ravus touched each other.

[28:06:49] Can I just maybe just look at the game?

[28:06:51] So I think Frago and Ravus touched each other. Canax maybe dissolved one too many orbs there?

[28:06:55] They have.

[28:06:56] This is not much else that will kill you there.

[28:06:58] There might have been something incorrect going on. I believe that Frago is one of our

[28:07:03] web partner people. So he might have been doing something with the tether in a way

[28:07:06] that was slightly delayed and people got a little bit lost in the source. But hey

[28:07:09] ho, it is what it is. These mistakes happen. You can see him playing the Augavoka.

[28:07:13] Something that Echo has certainly preferred more strongly than Liquid have. Liquid

[28:07:18] much more on the dev lines funnily enough and that was a great dev of okay he is as

[28:07:23] well yeah

[28:07:24] plays a fantastic dev of okay we're doing astronomical damage on some of the

[28:07:27] fights

[28:07:27] he's a fantastic everything player one of the guys actually I'm on everything

[28:07:31] he's obviously been around

[28:07:32] I'm in the scene for a long old time an og paragon player for anyone who is

[28:07:36] uh... unaware

[28:07:37] um... frag is being around for the long side good played overwatch

[28:07:40] professionally for a while and joined uh...

[28:07:42] you know echo eventually with the uh... there's a lot of game

[28:07:46] pros like other game pros I should say like actual pros you have joined like

[28:07:50] hopeful was telling us of his League of Legends history he was in training camps

[28:07:55] in Korea that's not that came out weird League of Legends camps still it's

[28:08:02] still saying a bit wrong with it he played League of Legends at Korea once

[28:08:08] There we go.

[28:08:10] Thank you very much.

[28:08:12] Well, you had a PC in Korea once.

[28:08:14] Doing all that before coming to World of Warcraft.

[28:08:19] I was actually saying how similar it is in the professional scene to be doing those kinds of things.

[28:08:23] Actually, the same sort of rules from the competitive professional environment

[28:08:27] just still apply here. It's just a different style of things.

[28:08:29] It's not as a bigger team.

[28:08:31] This is more problem-solving.

[28:08:33] Instead of PVP, it's never evolving.

[28:08:35] evolving and adapting per game scenario with a lot of predictions and looking at historical

[28:08:39] trends of individuals.

[28:08:40] Oh, I love that.

[28:08:42] Yeah, it's nice, right?

[28:08:43] Oh, I haven't actually seen this, like you said.

[28:08:46] I haven't seen this part with the two evokers going around doing shenanigans, one person

[28:08:49] rescuing the other after soaking their orb, and they are soaking the orbs near melee

[28:08:53] in order to allow the melee to be saking them because you do actually want to avoid

[28:08:56] having ranged players soak the orbs as often as possible, mainly because they're

[28:09:01] so far away from the rest of the group and they're going to be taking the damage

[28:09:04] from the Tethers and they're not going to be necessarily very close for that sort of splash healing that is going on with a lot of our healing choices right now that makes a lot of sense.

[28:09:11] Any Orbs you can get to Melee is worth the time.

[28:09:15] You're going to see one successful stun on to our Chagi Anubarash Boy.

[28:09:21] Yeah, it's really nice because every orb drop here, you can see this very clearly from Frago's POV.

[28:09:26] As I said, the actual melee ball is designed like I move further out so it'd be like Cannex, right? Cannex is in use Team Blue.

[28:09:33] I could be a bit further out from the melee because my office going to be picked up by Frago

[28:09:37] Who's a vocal who can circle around the outside and pick up these widest red ones while the melee maintain that uptime?

[28:09:42] And these are all the little micro elements that make oh, I love this

[28:09:44] Yeah, you come to me. We're getting this web and that will go over there

[28:09:48] Just rescue each other all over the place. I'd a vocal power, baby

[28:09:52] That's so cool because I guess Frago's choosing we are doing this web and then obviously may vocals like yeah

[28:09:58] Sure, no problem, dude. I don't go in this way

[28:10:00] I don't really give a crap. You just decide everything. Just grip me wherever you want me to be and I'll just keep casting and I

[28:10:07] I'm doing

[28:10:08] You do whatever you want to do. That's so cool

[28:10:11] That's the cool things you can do a fight like this where you are given a partner like I was memeing on Ross yesterday for us

[28:10:16] Ludgefish shenanigans, but we were really good partners together like we had a lot of fun

[28:10:19] We would just goof around and then we came up with like mini games within the encounter

[28:10:24] Like one of us would like start shimmying a little bit more to the other one

[28:10:27] I'm like, God damn it, I need to go this way

[28:10:29] and then the other one to do it, the next pull.

[28:10:31] All those kind of things is that's what happens

[28:10:33] when you have these little partnerships in game

[28:10:36] to mess around with.

[28:10:37] A lot of encounters that you afford

[28:10:38] that kind of friendship, genuine friendship,

[28:10:41] where you can, you know, you're playing with your friend

[28:10:43] in a real way.

[28:10:44] Yes.

[28:10:45] And having fun together

[28:10:46] and coming up with these like inside jokes

[28:10:48] between each other that no one else would ever get.

[28:10:50] Nope.

[28:10:51] And someone else might find it really annoying,

[28:10:52] but you don't.

[28:10:53] As they come into the end of phase one,

[28:10:55] this is where it's the most brutal amount of damage

[28:10:56] Onto the race, the cushions very low right now, but the healers have got through this many, many times, successfully, and it looks like they're going to do that again.

[28:11:04] That one last clip of damage there, I guess it would devoid that one as much as possible.

[28:11:09] It seems like they're holding. They are holding. They've been holding for ages.

[28:11:14] So that was one extra tick that they want to do.

[28:11:17] Yeah, that's the extra tick of damage that maybe they're not super used to.

[28:11:20] So we did lose two players, both Zazi and Revers, I think, to the damage input rather than any sort of option anneagance

[28:11:28] Do you want to explain why they're holding?

[28:11:29] Yeah, so this fight, although it is on a strict time at the time,

[28:11:32] it's say that the first phase is two minutes, it's always two minutes.

[28:11:36] The second phase is always two minutes and the last phase is always three minutes.

[28:11:39] It's the intermissions where the players get to control the pace.

[28:11:42] So in theory, you can just kind of chill there for a while and say, you know,

[28:11:45] we want to stay in this intermission for a little bit longer to make it so that as soon as we get into phase two,

[28:11:50] we can pop our cooldowns. It's that kind of thing. We're only saving for cooldowns.

[28:11:53] Anyone who's played this game in the past, there was a whole meta for basically an entire

[28:11:56] expansion of Shadowlands where you're sitting around waiting for your CDs. It seems it's

[28:12:00] really its ugly head one more time on this fight, hopefully not in a super detrimental

[28:12:04] way. And by the time that your group gets to it, you'll probably be geared so heavily

[28:12:08] that you probably don't need to do that kind of optimization or anything right.

[28:12:12] It eventually ended

[28:12:15] Really like you think about every other

[28:12:17] God damn it spell Qix stop DPS cool down waiting everything this post looking kind of

[28:12:29] I'm here to do it. I was trying to save that production here comes the grip

[28:12:33] Let's see what they're gonna do with it as you can see the groups are gonna be splitting away from one another as the red team

[28:12:37] I also gripped in the blue team gonna go and collect the red teams orbs

[28:12:40] Once that AOE has come off, you can see a set of debuffs going out into the group 5 in total

[28:12:45] as we're going to be getting them dispelled onto the boss.

[28:12:47] You can see one by one, Mary's unfortunately going down, but Alres is there.

[28:12:51] So looking good in that sort of sense, Mary was clean as they've done it so far.

[28:12:55] We'll call it that.

[28:12:57] It wasn't perfect, but it was clean enough.

[28:13:00] Big Boom is still going to go off though.

[28:13:02] One more dispel on Penguin.

[28:13:04] There we go. You want to cut it as fine as possible.

[28:13:06] Yeah, that's fine though dude.

[28:13:07] It's extending the duration of the phase.

[28:13:09] The boss will after that cast if you do it at 10 seconds each time like as soon as it's available

[28:13:14] Then you're gonna be losing out on maybe eight seconds of the entire phase

[28:13:16] Which you need when the DPS check is so high or why is the boss so low?

[28:13:20] I'm just about to tell you I've you looked at the HP of this boss. It is disgusting

[28:13:25] that's like

[28:13:26] Very very refined low. That's gross

[28:13:30] That is gross. Okay. Yeah, so, you know excited you guys. They've not done much. Yeah, that's right

[28:13:36] It's just very good to see that we have the potential because we've had a couple of pools where it's like if you look at it and only saw those pools it might be a bit dooma.

[28:13:46] You could get a bit doom and gloom about it. But I'm assuming they can get through this intermission. We can get some really solid phase three prog.

[28:13:52] There's a lot to learn in phase three still. So you know, don't necessarily get super hyped up and you can't blame me if it goes wrong.

[28:13:58] it goes wrong chances are it will. I mean there's a really high chance they haven't done the very vicious

[28:14:02] overlap yet but the other has yanked up go down the shield is out he has ank though they're going into

[28:14:06] full health. They also didn't slow down at all are they getting two volumestacks throughout that entire

[28:14:11] phase. Yeah they think they did the extend phase one so they could get out of this quicker.

[28:14:15] Do you think that's it because they find this intermission harder? Maybe. Well this is the

[28:14:18] one they need to prog they don't give a toss about phase one and two anymore phase three they

[28:14:22] need to practice. Yeah so you can see what they're going to be doing here with the red team

[28:14:25] all going along the wall for these particular pull-ins. So the red team are going to be eventually

[28:14:31] gripped in, so will the blue team. You want to have them slightly spread because you will

[28:14:34] be spawning some orbs as you do. So after this airwea damage comes in, here comes the

[28:14:37] first vortex. Blue team going in first, going over to the left and right. The red team

[28:14:41] getting pulled through and they will then be soaking the orb shortly afterwards.

[28:14:44] There are enough webs.

[28:14:45] They have got enough webs because it's only the red team that save their webs every

[28:14:48] single time. You're going to see some orb collection here and then we have to

[28:14:51] deal with the first stun. I'm not sure if we're going to be able to though

[28:14:54] We have lost a lot of red members. We might not have enough of the walls

[28:14:57] Unfortunately not lost a couple too many red members there, but an excellent new best pull for echo that not necessarily because they got further in phase three

[28:15:05] It's just because of how disgusting they did in phase one and two

[28:15:09] That was some really really nice damage and it's the damage they need in order to get out of this fight overall

[28:15:14] Yeah, a little bit of a shame that we lost too many members when with the tethers

[28:15:17] I'm not sure maybe if the red members broke or because we just had people die. I think

[28:15:21] Yeah, I know just what it was saying in there is like other web damage isn't that bad. I'm like it is like if you've played this fight

[28:15:29] It really hurts if you combine it with everything else that's going on in the fight

[28:15:33] It's like individually sure it's not that bad

[28:15:36] But when you start stacking it with the fact that you've got the vortex which does ridiculous damage on the rate

[28:15:40] It's huge amount of damage that that vortex does it just pulses damage onto you

[28:15:44] And then you've got the dragon you've got everybody moving because the healers have to run as well

[28:15:48] And then you combine the webs on top one several people with the web snaps

[28:15:51] It's a lot it can take you over really really quickly

[28:15:53] And I think that was actually a position issue look like the first two looks like first two collided

[28:15:58] Which is the instant death maybe went the wrong direction things like that so one

[28:16:02] Difference and I could be incorrect because I haven't like fully analyzed to the very tea liquid strategy

[28:16:08] So excuse me if I am wrong on this so there is a chance

[28:16:10] But it does feel like with liquid strategy for the webs in phase three

[28:16:15] They kind of have an order of operations where they have it so that the second gripped in team as they run away from the boss

[28:16:22] They soak the orbs of the first script in team. They do the two things at once. Yeah, I was in the gym at the time

[28:16:28] So I wasn't watching too much, but if I remember right they basically had

[28:16:33] The what the first team that was going in would go in and move off to the side

[28:16:37] Yeah, and then the second team would be gripped in and run to the other

[28:16:41] Orbs, and then your team would come in a bit later to soak the others.

[28:16:44] Exactly, yeah. Whereas this isn't exactly what Echo is doing. It seems like the first people who are gripped in, they're gripped in, and then they do go to the left and right, which is very similar to what Liquid were doing.

[28:16:54] But it seems like Echo are making it so that the red team, no matter what, are the ones that are always going to be responsible for the webs, whereas I'm not sure if that was always the case for Liquid, it could be.

[28:17:04] But because of that, it does feel like they're taking their time at going back and soaking the orbs afterwards,

[28:17:09] which is quite a difficult thing to do.

[28:17:11] If you can combine running away from the boss with soaking orbs at the same time,

[28:17:16] you're kind of getting, you know, you're hitting two birds with one stone.

[28:17:19] Whereas going back, you have to avoid the giant pulsing eruption damage that's happening at the same time,

[28:17:25] whilst also still trying to position for the stun.

[28:17:28] It feels like that might be a little bit of a difficult part.

[28:17:32] Not impossible, I'm sure that they can pull it off,

[28:17:34] but if they need to pull it off a few times in this fight,

[28:17:37] it feels like that strategy is a little bit more difficult.

[28:17:39] Yeah, I think it's like three times

[28:17:41] with the final one being the most difficult.

[28:17:43] So the final one will not only be the combination

[28:17:45] of the donuts happening and the charge.

[28:17:48] So you'll have donuts into the charge.

[28:17:50] The charge happens at the exact same time.

[28:17:53] So what happens is both of their major abilities, right?

[28:17:55] So you've got Trungus in phase one

[28:17:56] and Charges across the room,

[28:17:57] you need to stop by the webs.

[28:17:58] That doesn't exist in phase two,

[28:17:59] because the focus then turns on Spider Lady,

[28:18:02] who does the five stinging swarm debuff some people

[28:18:05] that needs to be dispelled onto the boss.

[28:18:07] You've seen that happen a few times now.

[28:18:09] And the finale of phase three, just before it is enraged,

[28:18:11] is it will do the charge and the stinging swarm

[28:18:13] at the exact same time.

[28:18:14] So what you'll have is the dispel and the webs

[28:18:17] having to happen in the very center of the room,

[28:18:19] because it's very important that you stop Chungus

[28:18:21] right on top of both the debuffed bosses.

[28:18:24] Yes.

[28:18:25] And that's when they'll cleave it down.

[28:18:27] With bloodlust.

[28:18:28] With the HP that they're getting this to, if they can consistently maintain this DPS, this boss will die in lust.

[28:18:34] It's gonna be gross.

[28:18:35] Like, if they can keep it clean, the last phase is a very very difficult thing to keep clean.

[28:18:40] I believe that with the kill that we've seen so far with Liquid, we did have deaths as well.

[28:18:46] And we went in with a very similar health percentage.

[28:18:48] That's why I was kind of surprised that Ekko have reached that health percentage so soon.

[28:18:51] Like, that was our first time getting a clean phase 2 in what felt like ages, yeah?

[28:18:55] And then suddenly boss suit below.

[28:18:56] So that's what's going to happen.

[28:18:58] Unless that was a God pool, which occasionally does happen,

[28:19:00] it's very much more likely that we're

[28:19:02] going to be seeing every time we get a clean phase two,

[28:19:06] the boss is going to be around that 45% mark.

[28:19:07] Or lower, potentially.

[28:19:09] Which is the best.

[28:19:10] It's 45% for the intermission.

[28:19:11] Obviously the shield dangles up.

[28:19:13] Yeah, if they're not fully optimized yet,

[28:19:15] so to see that now is pretty incredible.

[28:19:17] It's good news.

[28:19:17] I reckon it's.

[28:19:18] Yeah, we're going to have what you're

[28:19:19] going to see, guys, in terms of the progress.

[28:19:21] You'll see this, like, 38, 36.

[28:19:23] They'll do one more of the spreads

[28:19:25] been talking about like Alex was just explaining there and then we will get this chance to actually

[28:19:30] pop on the boss and that 38 will very quickly turn to probably like 9 8 something like that

[28:19:34] they'll get very very low because people will be dead and it'll be like okay we kind of see

[28:19:38] the whole fight now rids repeat until it does it's quite funny like just so it's going to win this

[28:19:42] bet and i'm really annoyed it certainly could be the most good die very soon because as soon

[28:19:47] as that strategy has been important like the damage check on this fight isn't as crazy they've

[28:19:52] They've got a lot of classes that can take full advantage of those really, really small windows in which the bosses take a ton of damage.

[28:19:59] I mean, incredibly good cleave classes as well.

[28:20:01] So, you know, we're looking at, as soon as we get a clean phase three, and like a proper clean phase three, that's a kill pool.

[28:20:09] Like, as long as we get there with the first two phases looking good as well.

[28:20:12] So, it could happen at any point. That was certainly encouraging.

[28:20:16] One funny thing actually, of course, pretty much everyone in this group right now, Vantus, on the previous boss.

[28:20:22] Yes. This boss would be so trivial with Vantus and everybody.

[28:20:25] I don't even know if it would even help.

[28:20:27] You really?

[28:20:28] What, the little ticking damage coming from the swarms?

[28:20:30] How often do we die due to a tiny little bit of extra damage taken by the group?

[28:20:37] For sure, in that first intermission, we had some people time out,

[28:20:39] but pretty much every death we've had is because the boss charges into the wall

[28:20:42] because we didn't do the dispells properly because of a mechanical failure in some way.

[28:20:46] Having more verse does not help your brain move your fingers in a way that makes you neutral.

[28:20:50] I mean you're right on the insta kill mechanics

[28:20:53] Yeah, but the fact that they could break those shields probably a full tick earlier. It'd be nice

[28:20:57] Yeah, I think if you look back at it

[28:20:59] I think you still if you knew that you'll be working on this boss this week as well as Kai Bezza. I

[28:21:05] Think it still might be a very reasonable decision. At least you could argue that it's a reasonable decision to use it on

[28:21:12] I'm not saying that they shouldn't have buzzed this guy

[28:21:16] Definitely designed to be Vansist a hundred percent

[28:21:20] There ain't no way I'm just looking at the pulsing damage that's causing a lot of stress on the healers and like the big bangs

[28:21:25] I had not the big bangs, but the big damage waves that come out with four stacks for sure

[28:21:29] It's like doing all that it's a lot right to catch your pond and it always turns into more DPS

[28:21:34] When they don't have to heal and ultimately you could get

[28:21:37] You get through a lot of this with just lower lower bosses making your face

[28:21:40] You might be able to skip a part of phase three. Do you know what I mean? Oh eventually

[28:21:44] just because of bansers but like you'd be very safe to die in the lust which is pretty safe you know

[28:21:49] like later on when your entire group is like 6 30 6 35 or whatever you are going to be getting to

[28:21:55] like the second chart and oh maybe like the second so like the first dispel stun on the

[28:22:00] bottom the third phase and then that'll be up the front will be over for sure. Which boss would

[28:22:04] you like do you think is the farm wall here for when we you know ultimately? Oh what is it

[28:22:08] went like each week and like can we stop trolling or can we skip this one this week? I can't think

[28:22:12] is this one? Maybe. Brute Swister I think is covered by a lot of gear, right? Gear could

[28:22:20] make Brute Swister end so much quicker. And I think it's also the case for Kaivesa. Kaivesa

[28:22:25] looked so scary for everyone at home and for us as well. It's because they made it scary,

[28:22:30] just because of how tight they had to play it. They were doing a bunch of stuff that you wouldn't

[28:22:33] do in a normal fight. You know, it's just because the check was so hard that I think

[28:22:36] Gear will eventually trivialize that. Of course you still got to do things correctly,

[28:22:39] but the strategy, it's one of those that just watching it from home is like,

[28:22:43] I think there's a reasonable chance I could go in and maybe not troll immediately.

[28:22:46] You know, I feel like I could at least follow it. I probably wouldn't do very good damage,

[28:22:49] but I could follow what they need me to do. So yeah, I think that this is like mechanically

[28:22:54] speaking, like a proper difficult little dance. This is the first one that we've had in the

[28:22:57] entire raid. The other ones have been more caused because of the tight checks rather than

[28:23:01] the mechanics themselves. Yeah, in force difficulty, if that makes sense. You know,

[28:23:05] one tanking strategies, pulling out like you know tanks you don't want to have doing certain jobs,

[28:23:11] healers stressed out of their god damn minds, all those kind of things have been present in the

[28:23:16] previous two bosses. This one does have the insta kill mechanics though so it only takes one person

[28:23:20] like glancing over at YouTube, changing the music, watching the stream. Oh so you've met Jimmy then.

[28:23:29] Nothing worse than when you watch a Fragments place, please, and Spotify in the middle of progress.

[28:23:35] Right now, really?

[28:23:35] No fantasy pulled it off pretty much every single time.

[28:23:37] Yes, he did, for not an old player,

[28:23:39] except when he puts his toe on the off-button on his PC

[28:23:42] because he uses it as a foot rest.

[28:23:43] No matter how time it's on, ah, he's disconnected.

[28:23:45] Then they come back on a minute later,

[28:23:46] and they're like, I kicked the cable, like a few hours.

[28:23:49] That happens, man, that happens.

[28:23:50] I'm sorry, but I raced for the first one.

[28:23:52] It's literally move his PC so he could rest his feet on it

[28:23:54] and then turn it off.

[28:23:55] Yeah.

[28:23:56] You've got to be comfy.

[28:23:57] If you're playing for 18 hours a day,

[28:23:59] get as comfy as possible.

[28:24:00] Obviously, we'll, uh, oh, as we're getting,

[28:24:03] yeah, no, we're getting, sorry, I don't know if I

[28:24:04] misjudge what was happening. Blinky blink. Blinky blink. Yeah, we go. Cast out. It was

[28:24:10] point two seconds left. I'm good. Load's time. Yeah, absolutely. This is where that big

[28:24:15] damage is coming from, plays like that. The confidence, it actually shows a lot of relaxation

[28:24:19] in the players to play like that. It's like, I'm chill. I'm comfy. I've done this, you

[28:24:23] know, 100 plus times in this bit. And this is the easiest part. But it's, it's

[28:24:26] one of those you can't get lax today's school with. You need to be full focused

[28:24:31] because it's not dead yet. You can be as relaxed as you want. But that doesn't

[28:24:34] doesn't mean you get sloppy. Start moving in a way that is not the way you've done it

[28:24:39] for the last 100 ways. Like the biggest thing that could troll this progress is if someone

[28:24:42] starts playing slightly differently, just getting a little lazy. Like I go near the mark instead

[28:24:46] of to the mark. I don't go into the exact place. I mean a big example that would be

[28:24:50] Mazoff, right? Oh yeah. Pizza slices. It's like I'm almost there. Double grip. Let's

[28:24:56] go. Help me. Oh, no. Maybe Mavica did not have, there we go. I was just maybe on

[28:25:01] We've got plenty of time. It scares me. There was a lot of blue team around at that point

[28:25:06] Whilst we got two red evokers doing what they can in order to make sure they get the tether done in time

[28:25:10] But they managed to get it down the breath coming out there increasing the damage that the boss takes

[28:25:16] Basically storing up all of the extra damage and doing it in one big burst

[28:25:20] You'll see a big chunk of the boss just come off in a sec

[28:25:22] But it yeah incredibly strong so far so good as we're looking generally to leave this phase hopefully around 75 percent

[28:25:29] Obviously give or take a percent or so is not the end of the world

[28:25:31] But if we're looking for some real solid comparison points, that's what we're after so leaving a 76.2. Oh, no. Yeah, that's right

[28:25:39] It's not the end of the world. We can live with that

[28:25:42] But hopefully we can live through the intermission which unfortunately we've already lost two players as we're doing a little rotate around the boss

[28:25:47] Yeah, that must be touching each other. Yeah, they're both red. I know one's no red and blue

[28:25:51] Yeah, yeah, yeah

[28:25:52] Touch not entirely too sure one player out of position there causing the other to run into each other

[28:25:58] Or maybe they just wanted to hug?

[28:25:59] Yeah, it could give me a number of things.

[28:26:01] It could be one player moving too soon.

[28:26:03] It could be one player not moving fast enough.

[28:26:04] Narko taking three orbs and was unfortunately gone down.

[28:26:08] Whether or not there was a small cluster of them,

[28:26:10] which meant there's supposed to be two there, dude.

[28:26:12] Maybe he's just doing a hero play

[28:26:14] because of people being dead.

[28:26:15] Sometimes that is also necessary.

[28:26:16] And he's just like, well, if I don't say OK,

[28:26:19] then we're all going to die some as well.

[28:26:20] I'm surprised about doing the pairs strategy here

[28:26:23] a little bit.

[28:26:24] It's probably a little bit unnecessary

[28:26:26] to be that strict on it.

[28:26:27] dropping them so it's two per one. Yeah they can certainly make their lives easier by trying

[28:26:32] to spread them out a little bit more but it doesn't feel as necessary. It does feel like

[28:26:37] it is, you can deal with it, you just gotta try and be as aware as possible. It depends

[28:26:42] on if you want to put the strain on everyone to stand in very specific fashions or if

[28:26:46] you just want to put the strain on people so that they do the mechanic properly you

[28:26:49] can see a quick collection. It looks really good when it works well. That works perfectly.

[28:26:52] There's one orb left, you can see Kax is going in to grab it.

[28:26:55] A bit of wide walking boomkin making his presence felt.

[28:26:58] MIRAS has gone down though.

[28:27:01] I think the damage on the tank at that point might just be a bit ridiculous because we also just lost now,

[28:27:05] but I think you might have had some debuffs from beforehand.

[28:27:07] Of course, they did change the tank buster more recently to make it so that the debuff is shorter,

[28:27:12] but instead of increasing the damage you take by 100%, it's 1000%.

[28:27:17] Blizzard really wanted to make sure that we do not one tank this fight, which is something that was on the go

[28:27:23] But they've hotfixed it since fortunately reduced the health of the boss though as a sort of compensation for that makes sense

[28:27:28] And no one that is some people are very confused this one is like why would buzzard be so angry at you one time doing it?

[28:27:32] Buzzard have been pretty good about making sure that what is considered to be the quote-unquote

[28:27:36] Standard size of raid gets accommodated for if you are I mean they build most of their content with like two

[28:27:42] Maybe three tanks sometimes very rarely it's much easier to get one of the DPS is to swap to a temporary tank

[28:27:48] But it's really unfair. It's bad ray design to design things with like random

[28:27:53] Requirements of roles right you because we ran into this problem and you probably remember it actually in the night hold

[28:27:59] Where the spellblade allureal people were really like seven healers and things like oh, yeah

[28:28:04] And it's just not it's not people just don't have those you don't recruit that many

[28:28:08] It just creates a ton of problems if you're not kind of falling into this sort of

[28:28:13] set amount of

[28:28:14] Requirements because you've got guys who are dedicated to tanking and of course tanks even not just at the race level first level

[28:28:20] In fact all the way down the line

[28:28:22] Usually have one or two classes that they invest into so they can cover all the tank combinations

[28:28:26] That's reasonable and it's like okay. Well, this is a one tank fight

[28:28:30] It's like okay, and then the next one like what three or four like it may make no sense

[28:28:33] Yeah, the generally is tried to stick to the two tanks one healer per five

[28:28:37] So no around four healers sometimes go to five, but that fifth healer is normally done by you know

[28:28:42] One of your boomkins or maybe a wind walker or something someone just any it's normally fine

[28:28:45] If they're just doing output as well

[28:28:47] They don't necessarily need to be like a class what especially nowadays output is much more if you seemingly important than damage reduction

[28:28:53] With so many healing absorbs and whatnot throughout the rate just if you're speaking quite extensively and intelligently about that

[28:28:58] in terms of the

[28:29:00] New meta so to speak that's why you know preservation of Oka's doing unreal amount of healing

[28:29:06] And it's so so valuable to have in the raid

[28:29:08] But yeah generally sticking within the bounds of a normal comp just makes it so that at no point

[28:29:14] Do you go to a boss as a normal guild and go well?

[28:29:16] We can't do this because we haven't got four tanks

[28:29:20] Awesome it's kind of the last lesson in that where people recruit eight tanks. They actually killed a bunch of guilds

[28:29:24] Oh, could you start yoinking tanks from other places?

[28:29:27] Because the crew did all the tanks a character would take so long to get ready back then as well right like right now

[28:29:32] We could ask one of our like a push came to shove

[28:29:35] It's just like well, Narko you need to tank up and nice brings your tanking now, and it's like okay

[28:29:39] We can do that. I think we're just gonna split for you. I think that even like our guilds can do

[28:29:43] I think the quite a lot of guilds could accommodate three tank fights

[28:29:46] So I think occasional three. Yeah, it's fine and like just like you said with the occasional fifth healer

[28:29:52] Yeah, but if you go from like four to six and then it jumps around a lot

[28:29:56] So it was like like I said earlier. It's like, okay, this requires two tanks now

[28:30:00] This requires eight tanks like we have in the next ramus. Yeah, that would be a bit it's preposterous

[28:30:03] Right, it's just not reasonable and guilds can't prepare for that

[28:30:06] So it actually diminishes the amount of guilds that are even available because if you have to stop building raid comps

[28:30:11] That may require six tanks

[28:30:14] And then you never get used for progress because this is like a one to three tank raid

[28:30:18] Yeah, that would be silly. Yeah, so it's not something Blizzard like at all

[28:30:23] If they know that you've got a couple of things that you probably your guild has two tanks

[28:30:26] That are your primary tanks and they should get representation in the rage should that so should your four healers

[28:30:32] And you know you have seven or eight range in the seven or eight melee

[28:30:35] Those guys should always be required and the bosses should be designed at the right mind

[28:30:39] And there shouldn't be anything there's nothing worse as well that when the one tank fight comes along

[28:30:43] It's only one tankable by a guardian druid or something or only doable by a win a

[28:30:48] a brewmaster monk you know that sucks because well our tanks that we don't have a brewmaster so

[28:30:53] what we have to be put into a position where i don't know maybe the boss is just in a position where

[28:30:57] it's like a lot less killable obviously it's not an issue for these top guilds where they just

[28:31:01] bring whatever that if you ask them to 18 heal they'll they'll be like yeah sure we can do that

[28:31:05] um but generally speaking they want to avoid it that was cool it's very spooky about how

[28:31:10] close they are to blue gang yep but they are blue gang is well aware is like yeah just don't go

[28:31:14] go do the evokas when they're doing their thing.

[28:31:16] Oh, dearie me, but speaking of them,

[28:31:18] the evokas are doing their work,

[28:31:19] but the touchy-touchy gang, wee.

[28:31:22] Wee, have a dragon.

[28:31:25] Certainly are.

[28:31:26] Have a little dragon.

[28:31:27] Do you like to go, Commander?

[28:31:28] Definitely, too.

[28:31:29] Thanks, boys.

[28:31:30] Just wait.

[28:31:31] You always need money soon.

[28:31:31] Doesn't allow you to steal.

[28:31:32] I've got that.

[28:31:34] They've been kind of trolling face one a little bit.

[28:31:36] This is very normal.

[28:31:36] I've seen this.

[28:31:37] Let's go off and have a look at it as well.

[28:31:39] As long as they don't start getting inting

[28:31:41] and getting salty about it,

[28:31:43] it's it's a case of we just lock in focus like we need to you know we've got a job to do here boys

[28:31:51] we our job is not really to kill this tonight our job is to kill this and have a look at

[28:31:54] Anzarek and see what's going this is why we did all our chores this morning we have given all

[28:31:59] this night so you can get this fight out of the way and go and mess around with Anzarek

[28:32:03] they're point me a time but the sooner the better yeah the clock is ticking on this

[28:32:07] this is the last day for EU unless you're just in case you're unaware they've got

[28:32:12] until approximately eight o'clock tonight because that's when they want to get a bed so they're up

[28:32:16] nice and early when the reset occurs at five in the morning um tomorrow morning that is so it is

[28:32:22] yeah is it six in the morning oh okay i've been i've been informed that it is six in the morning

[28:32:28] or the why are we here from five hang on we're here from six i've misread the schedule five on the

[28:32:33] thing it's uh i'm confused there we go an extra hour in bed yeah i think you do i don't and or

[28:32:38] or anyway, that's the point.

[28:32:39] Oh mate.

[28:32:40] That's the efficiency problem you're talking about.

[28:32:42] Is it being here on the morning?

[28:32:44] It is not.

[28:32:45] It's if I get up at the morning.

[28:32:47] No, I think I'm on around midday tomorrow.

[28:32:49] I think it's being medic in the morning.

[28:32:50] Yeah.

[28:32:51] Oh, I say midday.

[28:32:52] I think I'm on for Mike 10.

[28:32:53] Because that's the new midday shift.

[28:32:54] Because we're starting so early tomorrow morning at 6.

[28:32:56] Not 5, my apologies.

[28:32:58] BS.

[28:32:59] So they're going to get themselves all ready for that.

[28:33:02] So yeah.

[28:33:03] Time is ticking.

[28:33:04] Hopefully they're able to make use of every single pool from here on out.

[28:33:07] No more phase one wipes ideally as we're jumping into pool 138.

[28:33:12] Yeah, we should clarify something because it makes it weird desperate for the killers

[28:33:16] which is you are and also we'll have some really cool course boss drops for you guys.

[28:33:19] Oh yeah.

[28:33:20] Echo is happy as long as they kill this before bed.

[28:33:23] Yes.

[28:33:24] That is like, it's just not ideal but they're totally fine with killing this at some

[28:33:28] point today that keeps them completely on pace with Liquid.

[28:33:31] No problem, absolutely fine.

[28:33:33] But there's an opportunity.

[28:33:35] can't win if they stay on pace with liquid because liquid is naturally geographically ahead.

[28:33:40] Yes. They need to be ahead of liquid. So what they want today is to kill this as fast as possible

[28:33:46] and get work on Ansarek more than liquid maybe had done. That's the goal for the ideal scenario.

[28:33:53] But as long as they kill us today, they're fine. But me and Alex, and just wait, and everybody else

[28:33:58] who's with us, would like it dead in about an hour and a half. The thing is, I think it's

[28:34:04] I see the potential and they've done so so well in terms of their

[28:34:09] Progress as well cleaning up the phase ones cleaning up the phase twos so that we're starting to work out the kinks in phase three

[28:34:16] That's why I want to see them every single pool don't get me wrong

[28:34:19] That is not gonna happen every single pool

[28:34:21] It's a very very difficult encounter even if it is solved mistakes will happen or a certain situations will occur

[28:34:27] Which are just a little bit difficult to be able to deal with and even the boss in a different way by the way

[28:34:31] No, they're just oh, I think you're following where I don't know why them two need to hold hands there

[28:34:37] It makes no difference. I think it's a meme. Oh, you think they're just doing it for snuggles. Yeah, why not?

[28:34:43] So many cute things on

[28:34:49] No reason whatsoever as far as I could tell for them to do that because they never spawn an orb anyway

[28:34:54] And nobody's out there, so they're not exactly preventing the other people from being hit by the the out because it does no harm

[28:35:00] You might as well just send it like you like shuffling they get right on top of each other as well. Yeah, beautiful good to see

[28:35:08] Friendship yeah

[28:35:09] Jinji and hopeful doing a hell of a lot of work in this fight in terms of making sure that they're

[28:35:14] Collecting all of the different orbs and webs needed in the first phase

[28:35:18] But as you can see we're heading into the first intermission the boss is 73 point five percent, which is excellent

[28:35:23] Exit to the Power Belt. Damage is not a concern.

[28:35:26] No. I think it's safe to say that if we can get through the last phase and go get to and

[28:35:32] through the last phase then we're going to be pretty set on the whole damage front.

[28:35:36] I hope so. I mean I don't think any of us would be angry right if they just get a reasonably

[28:35:41] good phase three and it just dies. That would be fine.

[28:35:44] Yeah. Sure. If we're going to go from like 38 or 35 to dead that's okay. That might

[28:35:49] be one of the largest jumps in health percentage on a last second to last boss in a long time.

[28:35:54] I don't think that's going to happen because they haven't seen the extra scary overlaps in phase

[28:35:58] three today. No, there are a couple overlaps in phase three, which are pretty terrifying where

[28:36:01] you've got to do the spells at the same time that you've got to prevent some charges against

[28:36:04] them all. It's pretty nuts. So we have that to look forward to. God, I thought he was going

[28:36:09] to blink onto Wolf Disco there, which would have been really bad. It's just one of the

[28:36:13] cushed there, a little lag on his feet. That's okay. Now let's follow the melee here

[28:36:17] because the melee have been struggling with intermissions in general with running into too many orbs maybe a little bit of laziness happening

[28:36:23] With the just spreading a little bit

[28:36:27] So we'll we'll see how that goes when they get when they get absolutely blasting. So now we're going to get the grips out

[28:36:33] Yeah, I see the blue team spreading apart and you're doing the same here. We don't want any of these webs

[28:36:39] Excellently done. They're going to be returning to collect their orbs like nothing ever happened

[28:36:42] We're going to be doing dispells on to the boss relatively soon each dispel does do a big burst of raid damage

[28:36:47] So we do want to stagger it and ideally we want to do a dispel right towards this the very end of this cast

[28:36:53] Which is in six seconds. So hopefully not too soon when you go

[28:36:57] And two one

[28:36:59] Bam point two seconds left. That's that's quite spooky

[28:37:04] But if the players are happy you can see rice and pulling on a shirt. They're like

[28:37:07] I'm not sure if you can see the boss taking 100% more damage while she is disoriented

[28:37:12] staggering around in the middle of the room.

[28:37:14] Do that one more time throughout this phase and we are going to be golden but we do have

[28:37:18] to deal with one more dragon and this does happen, this pull-in after the teleport.

[28:37:23] Boss teleport to the side, the whole raid is slightly out position, here comes the

[28:37:26] first drag, hopefully they don't run into the blue team as they're all separating

[28:37:29] out and unfortunately we do have Kush and Meras having a little bit of a hug there

[28:37:34] We have two as well. We can pretend like that didn't happen

[28:37:39] But yeah, they do they do need to sort out what the hell is going on there

[28:37:41] Hopefully we can get the remainder of the orb so as we're doing the dispels here

[28:37:44] We've got three more dispels to do. Yeah, Rev is going in next as you can see on the raid frames. You got individual marks

[28:37:50] Now we're gonna have our

[28:37:53] Enhance yep with young Bob and then we'll ask a little wolf disco. There we go

[28:37:58] There it is

[28:37:59] Scarabs there they need to be gripping these in because the guys need to blast like any wasted damage here is a

[28:38:03] It is time to go to Kaneks. You'll see the moment these Skybes die. He's going to be then pumping in his convoluted spirit

[28:38:10] So we just missed it. I think because the skybes already dead

[28:38:12] But every DPS cooldown here is perfectly lined up for exactly when they need to do it

[28:38:17] I'm not saying they're at 44.4 going into the intermission

[28:38:21] That would be a really stupid thing for you to point out because they're not gonna kill it on this pole

[28:38:25] But that is filthy. Yeah, it's an excellent sign for progress ahead. So yeah

[28:38:30] But it's exactly what we need to see.

[28:38:32] One thing we don't need to see though, is two spikes.

[28:38:35] That is a bad time.

[28:38:36] Just don't flop your belly on them.

[28:38:38] Yeah, we've used a, what is it, a bobbin one.

[28:38:42] So you can immune your way out of it,

[28:38:43] but obviously we'd rather not have to use any on any.

[28:38:46] So that is of course done by,

[28:38:48] if you get hit by any of these circles on the ground,

[28:38:50] then unfortunately we'll get stunned.

[28:38:51] Now on Cushy too, well of course your Shadow Step Bar,

[28:38:54] something is just causing some issues

[28:38:55] with where people are stuck.

[28:38:56] Cause it will teleport you to a,

[28:38:58] it should put you in the right space,

[28:38:59] anybody who's played a rogue will know that's always the case but they haven't got a combat res

[28:39:03] available for a little bit so it is up to Mires now now the shield is about to go down

[28:39:09] this is a shift through there's the shield down just need to get these last soaks coming in as

[28:39:12] the swords are going ever closer to those orbs indicating that they're due to explode but

[28:39:16] I think we have just managed to snag that so excellent work obviously not the cleanest

[28:39:22] intermission but we have got through that intermission clean before just unfortunately a

[28:39:25] a little bit of um positional issues. Hopefully Meris can survive long enough for us to practice

[28:39:29] this upcoming set of grips because it's something that we really have struggled with.

[28:39:33] Well there's some leasing strikes so maybe we're making a top play uh or something because uh

[28:39:38] but it doesn't like this one tanking now. Only one red team member dead which is excellent news

[28:39:44] and we don't want more than one red team member dead because they are the ones responsible for

[28:39:49] tripping up the upcoming boss. Still all red team members alive we're going to go back in

[28:39:53] and soak our orbs even with no tanks there's nothing to tank just yet

[28:39:57] hopefully we can at least interrupt the charge yeah so we got to be a little

[28:40:03] bit more proactive maybe would be the word in terms of stress panic it is a

[28:40:09] little bit all over the place they do need to get comfy here but we did manage

[28:40:12] to stun the boss which is excellent news this is prog if I'm just saying if

[28:40:16] your team read you are pretty happy right now only three members on the

[28:40:18] floor where Team Blue loses. That's Team Spider. Yeah, Team Spider is Blue. And I'm just saying

[28:40:25] Team Spider is purple. And no, but the Spider Boss gives Blue debuffs. So Team Spider it

[28:40:30] is. They're both spiders. No, the other one is a Scarab. Actually, technically, they're

[28:40:35] both in a Ruby. I'm going to bed. I'm going to bed. I'm going to bed. I'm going to bed.

[28:40:38] I sound like a medic now. I'm going to sleep in Nexus Brins. I'm going to sleep back

[28:40:41] and dime through the portal by Skynet in order to put the Ned and Deco's Valiant

[28:40:46] devents into this war and frankly I'm not happy with it I don't want it.

[28:40:51] Crabstroll.

[28:40:52] Spiders baby!

[28:40:53] Crabstroll!

[28:40:54] It's the blood game!

[28:40:55] Crabstroll is where it's at.

[28:40:56] If you are turning on arachnophobia mode I don't blame you because they're big giant

[28:41:01] spiders.

[28:41:02] Apparently arachnophobia mode is actually quite good for...

[28:41:05] Brute twister.

[28:41:06] Brute twister.

[28:41:07] I saw a tweet, I think it was THD.

[28:41:08] It could be wrong, sorry if it's not your THD.

[28:41:10] I think it just allows you to see the purple swirlies a little bit better.

[28:41:13] the big spiders are slightly smaller crabs and the ones that you pop out so

[28:41:18] if you're working on Brute Twister like 350 guilds probably can't be bothered to

[28:41:22] do but still if you might be one of those try the arachnophobia mode indeed

[28:41:25] so another phase three from Echo excellent to see very very good a few

[28:41:29] more of those and we will be seeing this boss not long for this world my

[28:41:33] friends not long for this world in good stead for everything and again we

[28:41:37] will have those Corsair giveaways for you so yeah cause I provided the

[28:41:41] players with choices this time.

[28:41:43] We've actually extended to the point where they're like,

[28:41:44] what would you like?

[28:41:45] Yes.

[28:41:46] So for some of the players,

[28:41:47] they've taken the amazing Corsair Sematar,

[28:41:50] which is fully adjustable now for big hands.

[28:41:51] We like it.

[28:41:52] This is, I'm debating which one to choose.

[28:41:54] I am going to change mouse to one of these two

[28:41:57] and kind of tempted more for the Dark Star.

[28:41:59] So the Corsair is a classic one

[28:42:01] that has all the side ones.

[28:42:02] Great for MMOs, obviously.

[28:42:04] If you're wondering how people have like

[28:42:06] world markers, pings, all their cooldowns, everything.

[28:42:10] Sam and Tars are great for that, but the Dark Star is more mobile-style.

[28:42:12] Yeah, Dark Star has just the six buttons around the side, I'd say just the six, whereas most

[28:42:16] Kemos mice only have the...

[28:42:18] And the two on the side, it's not sure...

[28:42:20] Oh yeah, you're entirely right.

[28:42:21] It's got six on the side and then two on the top.

[28:42:23] Two on the top here as well.

[28:42:24] I use those two at the top to change my DPI, because depending on what game I'm playing.

[28:42:29] Really? You actually follow with that?

[28:42:30] Yep, I use that quite a lot, depending on what game I'm playing, because on MMOs

[28:42:34] I like my mouse to be very slow, but in FPS games I get to be quite high.

[28:42:37] Yeah, I have a high DPI in FPS games and everyone calls me out on it all the time.

[28:42:42] I think the meta is to have an incredibly low one and like you do need one of the giant mouse mats that you can get on the merch store

[28:42:49] because you go from like here all the way over there and that's like half a turn.

[28:42:53] You're like going like this and it's like and there's a 360.

[28:42:56] But no, this mouse is absolutely fantastic with the six buttons around the side too.

[28:43:00] If the 12 buttons are a little bit scary, fair enough.

[28:43:03] You can make a juice out of the six.

[28:43:05] Wonderful mouse, one thing I love as well, it's a small feature as well with the mouse wheel, you can do left and right with it.

[28:43:12] So you can just flick it with your fingers like that, and that allows you to scroll left and right in most programs, which is really really nice.

[28:43:18] Oh it's on this one too?

[28:43:19] Yep.

[28:43:20] Very cool, big fan of that. Also it's a wireless mouse but you're able to charge it from the front, anytime that you do need to charge it.

[28:43:27] I'm not using any particular company.

[28:43:29] I checked the picture.

[28:43:31] It's crazy.

[28:43:32] That is the most absurd thing I've ever seen in my life.

[28:43:34] Yeah, no they certainly could do if not doing that. Also the very...

[28:43:37] I know.

[28:43:39] Idiots?

[28:43:40] Yeah.

[28:43:41] It's correct what we're talking about.

[28:43:43] Different route, yeah.

[28:43:44] Bust room.

[28:43:46] It's not the best, but one thing that's also awesome with this is you get the little blue tooth fob in the bottom.

[28:43:51] Yeah, I love that.

[28:43:53] We've given up going elsewhere.

[28:43:54] Dude, we easily stack every wireless keyboard and mouse in our studio and Noop's lost all the fobs from him.

[28:44:01] Yeah.

[28:44:02] hidden specifically oh jerk we looked everywhere for him everywhere losing your

[28:44:08] dongle and stuff is just the worst if you just stick it in the hardware

[28:44:11] headphones that don't do that I don't get anymore I can understand that yeah if

[28:44:14] your headphones if you make it headphone manufacturers if you don't make

[28:44:17] something that I can stick the dongle in it when I'm traveling does make it a

[28:44:21] lot better there's make it so much better see you ping them all we'll be

[28:44:25] giving away some wonderful Corsair products of course the players have

[28:44:28] all had access to. Gotta admit that K70 Max that's in that box may very well go missing

[28:44:34] by the end of it. It's so heavy. It's such good quality. Yeah, you see like a cheap keyboard

[28:44:40] that you can like bend by breathing on it. This thing is like iron. It's so good. I

[28:44:44] love K70 keyboards. They've been doing a K70 line for quite a while. This is just

[28:44:48] their newest one. I've got an old K70. That thing has gone through hell and back

[28:44:53] with me with tons and tons of bottles of wine and it still just keeps going it just doesn't

[28:44:59] care and this thing is amazing. It's exactly like producer said it's like one for me and

[28:45:05] the one for the keyboard. I've done horrible things. I use the K100 because I like the

[28:45:09] big one with the... I didn't have all the G keys and stuff. I love the K100. It's very

[28:45:14] nice I brought it with me here. Shout out to Corsair by the way because we all use

[28:45:18] course that stuff yeah we totally do it's not a meme or anything it's not just

[28:45:22] that's how we all use them yeah we're all set products I brought my red be good

[28:45:26] yeah I had stuff here it was like I want my gear I want my k100 I like my big

[28:45:29] keyboard it's very nice it's very beautiful but yeah it's good stuff and

[28:45:34] we'll have some giveaways for you guys as soon as echo get this done and

[28:45:38] cottage is just wait it will be dead and I love this hopefully loses I don't

[28:45:42] 15 minutes I faith it just what you think they're gonna send it and it's

[28:45:47] just going to be like oh I get it now dead well you meant go left I was going

[28:45:55] leafed at law board don't know you're not allowed yeah not good not allowed

[28:46:04] damn dude but you the excellent thing though is that we are certainly moving

[28:46:11] in the right direction for this the we were able to sum the boss using the

[28:46:14] new web strategy in phase three obviously it wasn't the cleanest we lost a lot of the blue team but we

[28:46:19] went into that phase with a very very messy intermission damage is definitely there we don't have to

[28:46:25] worry about damage we just have to worry about getting there nice and cleanly and it's something

[28:46:30] that Echo are known to refine they just need to take a little bit more time in order to get there

[28:46:34] hopefully not too much longer though because we do want to spend as much time as possible

[28:46:38] Oh, this is gonna be full bin

[28:46:41] Yeah, maybe okay. I got clips. I don't I think he yeah, he did get his color

[28:46:47] Yeah, he was hit by somebody got read then someone hit him again. I think I

[28:46:52] Think I think it was that's he I think he was that's he collided. I know they should be the same color. Hmm

[28:46:57] Hmm, not sure. No, I'm curious. Yeah, it is the way of things. Oh, yes, sure

[28:47:02] I've been ignorant. We haven't received donations. Oh, okay. You know, it's absolutely fine as we're waiting for them to pull a boss

[28:47:10] Of course, we are raising money for the wonderful games for love

[28:47:15] Charity that we've you guys have been so generous rates over two twenty two thousand dollars so far

[28:47:22] So thank you so so much. We've got some wonderful upcoming incentives for you. We have already broken through

[28:47:28] We've got RC rumble and scuffed cosplay on the go. We've actually picked our scuffed cosplay groups. We don't want to spoil too much, but me and Mike are not in the same one.

[28:47:39] We'll be working against each other head to head on that. We've got Raider portraits coming up, International Caster Appreciation Day, the Nerubar as well as Krab and Spider Tattoos.

[28:47:48] That Nerubar, if we're going to get there actually, we need to do that ASAP because this is Medics Baby, the Nerubar.

[28:47:55] What the what is cast international caster appreciation day? Um, it might be a day in which we take some time to appreciate what we go to a spa

[28:48:05] It's um, it's not that nice. Okay, we'll see let me let me blast through somebody sorry for being ignorant guys

[28:48:12] We were in I've got this. I'm like looking at Alex me with chit-chat

[28:48:17] The hell fire citadel I do I hated it

[28:48:20] Well, I hated the raid, but I had a kid during Hellfire, so...

[28:48:23] The thing is, as soon as you bring up Hellfire Set-Down for someone who played it, everyone wants to talk about it.

[28:48:28] Everyone's got a story!

[28:48:29] Everyone means me, like, Alex always talks about Hellfire.

[28:48:31] I'm sorry, guys, I was like, brought up Hellfire.

[28:48:33] It's like, you see what I mean? That's what I'm saying!

[28:48:36] Oh, it's just my fault.

[28:48:38] Ah...

[28:48:39] It's what it is, we're jumping in to another pool, 142.

[28:48:43] Lucky number 142, if you ask me, as we're going to be, uh...

[28:48:47] Hoping that they are able to increase their consistency instead of running into these small little issues that are having in phase one phase two

[28:48:53] We know that they can get through cleanly same with both intermissions. It has been solved

[28:48:57] There's still room for optimization. I'm sure and not in terms of damage. What there is also damage optimizations available

[28:49:03] But we're definitely focused on survival optimizations. Oh, whoa, that was no don't do that

[28:49:10] Jump scare. That's horrible. Yeah, I don't like that. I mean, I know he's pulling it off

[28:49:15] But I think of some of these early phase one deaths of maybe because of moves like that that they just seem unnecessary

[28:49:20] It's just very cool. It's cool, but it feels very unnecessary

[28:49:23] If you're not sure what's talking about red is diving into the blue area as they circle around to the left

[28:49:27] So you really I mean this is you know, it's world first product

[28:49:30] You should be relying on your teammates to be doing exactly what they need to do. It just looks terrifying

[28:49:34] They shouldn't be there, but I mean, I don't know about you, but I'm always checking it's like well

[28:49:40] You were in the wrong place, dude, so I couldn't do my thing. Yeah, I think it's

[28:49:44] It's not tank swap. Look at that two of the piercings. Oh, yeah, you can't do that. No, those piercing strikes increase the damage you take by a thousand percent

[28:49:51] They also persist through death

[28:49:52] So now we'll have to definitely be the recipient of the next tank hit. Yeah, they will wear off

[28:49:57] That's a bit of a weird thing for those two to wipe, too

[28:50:00] Because in the how much they've played together

[28:50:02] I wonder if there's maybe a little inconsistency with the timer. Tabs tab went wrong. It could also just be a mechanical

[28:50:08] It will happen to anybody, right?

[28:50:11] It's like these two are both co-MDI champions 13 times in a row, and occasionally I press

[28:50:17] tab wrong.

[28:50:18] Sorry.

[28:50:19] It could totally happen.

[28:50:21] It's one of those things.

[28:50:22] We've all done it at some point.

[28:50:23] If you've ever tanked, you have obviously taunted the wrong mobs and soundgun.

[28:50:26] Especially when there's a bunch of little scouts everywhere.

[28:50:29] So especially if you're using the 3D space, you might have accidentally clicked on

[28:50:32] the right one.

[28:50:33] That's why I use boss frames.

[28:50:34] Because then I click on the boss frame using my mouse, or I have a tree.

[28:50:37] In fact, I know they use key bindings to select between boss friends.

[28:50:40] I just don't tank.

[28:50:42] That's old.

[28:50:43] You can't mistaunt if you don't tank.

[28:50:45] I'm the guy who says full focus this ad and then can't find it in the pile.

[28:50:51] Tell me that's not something you've all done.

[28:50:53] Heart swap.

[28:50:54] Yeah, okay.

[28:50:55] Here's heart swap.

[28:50:56] Oh, man.

[28:50:57] This one, isn't it?

[28:50:58] Okay, I put moonfire on it, but it died.

[28:51:03] Yay.

[28:51:04] Help, man.

[28:51:05] Yeah, you can just splash damage onto it.

[28:51:07] Hard swapping means just stuck out on the boss and cleave, you'll be fine.

[28:51:10] Ooh, some players getting a little bit, um, close to the explosions there.

[28:51:15] I do believe that we're able to survive with a mini going down.

[28:51:18] No res available for it.

[28:51:20] Some of the orbs were a little difficult to pick up there.

[28:51:22] They were like overlapping into the webs a little bit.

[28:51:25] You can see it's happening again.

[28:51:26] Like, you've got to, whoever's clear them though,

[28:51:28] as they ran through this time.

[28:51:29] So that wasn't so bad, but I think Mini got knocked back

[28:51:31] by the actual web on the ground, which was the issue.

[28:51:33] Yeah, I think it was just a bit slow getting around,

[28:51:34] Or maybe you see there's a couple of ops left in the web. No, they are with the shield at the end

[28:51:39] Yep, they're definitely doing something to get their damage

[28:51:41] It is certainly working coming out of this phase obviously 75% is where we wanted to be we've had lower

[28:51:46] But they are doing everything they can to squeeze as much damage out as possible

[28:51:50] If they know it's going to be something they have to do long-term then getting that optimization in now might certainly help with the

[28:51:56] Consistency of it later exactly so make sense as to why it's done fair enough

[28:52:01] We'll be able to get mini up in a minute and 10 seconds

[28:52:04] Yeah, no one available for him on this poll. Unfortunately, Alex, that's who you're right.

[28:52:09] Echo and in fact all kills on this heavy end of progress always making things harder in the earlier easier stages of the fight to make the end the harder bit a little bit.

[28:52:18] Knock a low as we're going to be dispelling under the boss one by one.

[28:52:21] One you have got PCSD you from Princess.

[28:52:23] Yeah, he would have definitely got the degree to a hundred percent.

[28:52:28] Reaper would have proctored him there.

[28:52:29] Here we go.

[28:52:30] Now dead to me even when they're alive.

[28:52:34] Like full dead, dude.

[28:52:35] Oh, man.

[28:52:36] Yeah, here goes that Kavok.

[28:52:37] There you can go as soon as the scallops are out the way.

[28:52:40] That's where you go into the Kavok.

[28:52:41] Pull all that damage in.

[28:52:42] A big 4.6 million star surge coming out of Canucks there,

[28:52:46] rising him to the damage meter and making it work.

[28:52:50] I'm only memeing.

[28:52:51] His job here is to murder the scallops,

[28:52:52] and he's doing an excellent job at that,

[28:52:54] allowing the rest of them to funnel

[28:52:55] their better style of DPSN.

[28:52:56] Here comes that left grip.

[28:52:58] And let's see them split apart around the red team,

[28:53:01] which they've managed to do.

[28:53:02] Okay, now that's starting to look pretty sexy.

[28:53:04] I'm not gonna lie, that's starting to look pretty good, dude.

[28:53:06] Yeah, Genji died to something else.

[28:53:08] I wonder if he got three orbs.

[28:53:09] He might have over-soaked, yeah.

[28:53:10] Yeah.

[28:53:11] Maybe the red...

[28:53:12] That might also be that the blue team

[28:53:14] were maybe a little bit too stacked,

[28:53:15] so is he blinked to any collected three orbs instantly?

[28:53:17] Who knows?

[28:53:18] But we're gonna have one-by-one dispels

[28:53:20] under the boss right now.

[28:53:21] That weak aura didn't actually tell him to do it

[28:53:23] at that point.

[28:53:24] Do we actually have enough stacks?

[28:53:25] Yeah, we do, two more.

[28:53:26] Quickly dispel.

[28:53:27] I'll let it jump to T'Kush, though.

[28:53:28] Bye!

[28:53:29] Bye!

[28:53:30] That's the first time.

[28:53:31] in the water. Yes, without it being completely screwed up otherwise, you're entirely right.

[28:53:35] Yeah, that is the first time they've had a big boom of shoes. That gripping with the

[28:53:42] webbing though did look nice. It just seemed that it will. Like all Rodgers recipes, eventually

[28:53:48] the cook looks good. Once the cook is done properly, it looks beautiful. Until then it

[28:53:54] looks like I made it. Do you want me to break your heart for a second, actually?

[28:53:57] And you know the strat that they use on Coveza?

[28:54:00] You know the wonderful geometric shaped strat?

[28:54:04] I thought that was a Roger Cook.

[28:54:07] He didn't cook it.

[28:54:08] What?

[28:54:09] It's not Roger.

[28:54:10] Who's was that then?

[28:54:11] It was Scribe.

[28:54:12] That was Scribe.

[28:54:13] So then they changed to Rogers?

[28:54:14] No.

[28:54:15] Now Roger had a strat that didn't work.

[28:54:16] So they used Scribes in the end.

[28:54:17] Okay so Roger ruined the food.

[28:54:20] Scribe made something edible but not tasty and then they just went with what's standard.

[28:54:25] No, we ordered McDonald's. No, we went from Roger's slightly janky cook over to yes, great.

[28:54:33] It's very, you know, easily edible one. So yeah, I was very sad about that. I thought

[28:54:37] I'm confused. The beautiful corridor. Is that what we're talking about was Rogers on? I'm

[28:54:42] talking about Covesa, right? Yeah. Yeah, the first strategy to use the the only use

[28:54:45] it for three poles was where they built a beautiful little corridor of a straight line.

[28:54:50] I never saw that. That's Rogers. That's Rogers. Yeah, it was bad. Oh, yeah. Well,

[28:54:54] So do you know why it was bad why it looked because he's gonna kill everyone?

[28:54:58] No, no it didn't it was actually in principle. He was absolutely correct. Okay, right?

[28:55:03] So they only moved like two yards and they

[28:55:06] Overlapped all three of the portals three on one side three on the other and made a perfect

[28:55:11] Rectangular corridor through the middle of the room and then they had gateways that went from the middle to the outside

[28:55:17] Meaning that you could just gateway out to drop your Queens veins, right? That's jokes

[28:55:20] And all the melee had to do they melee got full up time because all they had to do was move back

[28:55:25] And that meant their Queensbane would go past if everyone pixel stats the Queensbane's from the direct middle would not touch them

[28:55:31] That was the strat so the Queens okay, however

[28:55:36] What became quickly apparent is that in order to make that work everybody who had creed Spain in order to make the angles

[28:55:42] Correct had to turn around as if it was like a blinding flash mechanic

[28:55:46] Oh

[28:55:46] and have their butts to the boss.

[28:55:49] But they did it three times

[28:55:51] and everybody just went,

[28:55:52] Roger, this is horrible.

[28:55:53] This is absolutely horrible.

[28:55:56] In principle, it was a really good idea.

[28:55:58] It was a super, super good idea.

[28:56:00] So yeah, that's what it was.

[28:56:00] So you were on off.

[28:56:01] You would gateway out if you had dark mask on you

[28:56:04] and everybody else could just move slightly backwards

[28:56:07] and nothing hits

[28:56:08] and the things just went through the middle of the boss

[28:56:11] all the time, so the raid never had to move.

[28:56:13] And if you did have to move, you had a gateway.

[28:56:14] We've got good grips coming in. Yeah, that's why we're bringing those three DK's and tons of grips in there

[28:56:20] Those scarabs have actually been kind of a non mechanic for the most part

[28:56:23] All down to them just being cleaved constantly if you swap to kush right now

[28:56:27] You can see they cleave down these scarabs because the boss arrives right here

[28:56:30] So that's why they're not following everything and why they stung the boss here because they just keep the scarbs here

[28:56:35] The DPS always has something to attack and then as soon as this arrives

[28:56:38] There's no ads that chew up like passive damage and stuff

[28:56:41] You know, especially we've got a character that like with the Convoker something which can hit all the targets

[28:56:45] I so it just gets it just removes all the element and in perfect timing again the damage profile of echo here is

[28:56:52] Directly on point. I like his big week or actually two out of three and that was

[28:56:57] This is clear the most some people just seem to be like manually counting in their heads

[28:57:01] I have to with the soaking of the orbs is

[28:57:08] Imperative that you don't reach three stacks of the opposing orb color. Otherwise you do die very quickly

[28:57:14] So we have seen that a couple of times

[28:57:16] Sometimes people have been doing it on purpose because if an orb isn't soaked just if you're unaware

[28:57:20] Then it will explode and apply the dot to every one

[28:57:23] So if a blue orb explodes, it'll give a dot stack to every red person

[28:57:27] So if you have like three people with two stacks, that's gonna kill three people

[28:57:30] It's better. They're just one person just quickly grabs it and dies themselves

[28:57:33] So there are some here a place that you can do on this fight. Hopefully it doesn't come down to that

[28:57:39] Ideally when this fight is done correctly, it is one lovely long dance and it looks like everything's perfect and you could go on forever

[28:57:46] Chances are our first kill won't look that way

[28:57:48] But here's fingers crossed that it does

[28:57:53] Skuff skuff skuff their kill was actually really clean. Yeah, it wasn't too bad at all

[28:57:56] Yeah, I think we lost like one person

[28:57:58] Just at the very very end of phase 3 which we had a battle res for anyway everything else was just like full vibes

[28:58:05] It was nice and chill. I'm nodding away. I think he's vibing some tunes. Oh, yeah, I'm a holy

[28:58:11] Paladin

[28:58:13] He's listening to play my holy Paladin. He's listening to the amazing music that of course echo by low wave

[28:58:19] Yes beans beans beans

[28:58:21] not just that but we've also

[28:58:23] Echo and low wave have collaborated on making some wonderful songs songs that you have been listening to during the break

[28:58:28] You can find them on Spotify and stuff. You can they have an entire album that has been made for this raid

[28:58:33] Which you can again just tune into it. It's called up evil. I believe I'll let you cover that one mate uprising

[28:58:41] I was close uprising on Spotify is the album Xcon album in the chat

[28:58:45] Yeah, if you're never gonna listen on I need to do that myself. Yeah, I'll search uprising on Spotify

[28:58:50] But did not delay this time now

[28:58:52] No, you did not delay. I think they're over killing maybe and they just like it's not necessary

[28:58:56] Yeah, they might be getting to a position the thing is is that we're talking about the DPS optimization

[28:59:00] They might need to delay because we know that 20 seconds into the phase

[28:59:04] I need to use my hymn or we need to use a dev aura

[28:59:06] But the dev aura is not going to be ready for another 10 seconds like is in a summer 30 second cooldown

[28:59:11] So there might be a little bit of that going on so they might shift to their cooldowns around so they don't need

[28:59:15] To screw around like that

[28:59:16] But I guess we will find out heading back in and soaking our orbs after the first successful grips

[28:59:21] We're going to be getting those stinging swarm debuffs from our good friend Anubarash to be dispelled onto our spider lady

[28:59:29] I assume we're still delaying this eight seconds till they need to spell do it

[28:59:32] Only one less, I left as well

[28:59:34] Yeah, zero, so four, three, two, one

[28:59:38] Dispel point two, that's all right

[28:59:40] Once again dispelling it as late as possible, not only has it

[28:59:43] Oh, I love that!

[28:59:46] That's an excellent record to have, telling you that for real dude

[28:59:50] Yeah, I totally need that week or no, not that one. Okay. Yeah, of course that week or we're showing that when there was a

[28:59:57] Vulnerability up on one of the bosses and you were targeting the other one. It was like, what are you doing?

[29:00:01] Tap quickly. That's not the right one. Here comes the scary grip. This is something that we struggled with quite a lot here

[29:00:06] Let's see if they can do it all going back that way is an interesting choice there from Minnie

[29:00:10] Who's gonna have to run around unfortunately heading in the wrong direction with but was able to recover it

[29:00:15] What are the things is that's okay the world dispells one by one now heading underneath our good spider

[29:00:22] Priestess a web priestess there

[29:00:26] Main the ones you have to run to the middle for big boom in seven seconds with only one to spell out

[29:00:31] And it's all about yep, so old old old two one

[29:00:36] Early premature. Yeah one second too early shambles. That's it wipe it

[29:00:42] even though this is the best poll they've ever done actually.

[29:00:48] If you look at this, this is ridiculously good for Echo.

[29:00:52] Prepare for imminent disaster, and it's not my fault.

[29:00:55] Of course, going into the intermission here, which they have done very successfully,

[29:00:58] they've lost all the way down to around 44%, very nice.

[29:01:02] That's exactly what we see. 45 is the target that I believe that Liquid were able to get to.

[29:01:08] So getting it down an entire extra percent is very nice,

[29:01:11] still have a lot of work to do. Not only in this intermission, which of course,

[29:01:14] unfortunately losing Zoho pretty early there, not the end of the world, he'll be

[29:01:18] able to be raised up, hopefully on the correct side of the room with his team,

[29:01:22] as we're going to continue to cycle around the boss in order to get to other

[29:01:25] people's orbs. You can see them largely in little clumps of two, you've got to be

[29:01:29] very careful though of the ever-expanding rings going out here. 60% on

[29:01:34] the shield, it'll be very nice. Very nice. One last hit likely coming in,

[29:01:38] or they're going to try and burst before it. They've got two seconds left and

[29:01:40] They are able to push through it. No chill. Hold on to your bots guys, but we have got one person out in an impaled spike right there

[29:01:46] Hopefully we can break them out nice and sharp ish, but you're seeing that the red team is already making their way over

[29:01:52] Towards the wall. Is it a fake one? It's a fake. Yeah, they fucked them. Yeah

[29:01:55] It does happen

[29:01:58] You can see the two bosses stacked on top of each other here and here comes the one of the first

[29:02:02] Really difficult overlaps as we are going to be getting a grip in the red team here

[29:02:07] going to be trying to keep their webs though because we need to use them to trip over a

[29:02:11] new barash. So you've got to be soaking orbs, dodging rings, dodging loads of different things

[29:02:16] as well as the enemy team or the allies as they're also known whilst keeping this all

[29:02:22] ready. I see if they're able to achieve it especially with everyone alive it's a

[29:02:25] very dear thing to do. So pay attention guys. Here we go. Let's see if we can get the

[29:02:29] three across. It's looking good. Oh we broke some of the tethers there though.

[29:02:33] It's good. Everyone is alive. It's good somehow. Excellent, it was a full scuff but they did it.

[29:02:38] Oh, careful of that. Oh, the frontal has been baited onto the boss though. That's a nightmare.

[29:02:42] You do not want that. Can you see there's some extra orbs have spawned there though because

[29:02:44] some of the people were unfortunately clipped by it but they were soaked in time. This

[29:02:49] is looking incredibly good. New best regardless. They need to reposition. They haven't done

[29:02:53] this before. Oh, lots of both tanks though. That's something that you really don't

[29:02:56] want to have to handle. This is full picnic. This is what this is. Yeah, this is an

[29:02:59] overlap that they haven't really had to deal with too much and they were behind

[29:03:02] because of that orb soak, it certainly caused a little bit of mental congestion.

[29:03:05] They brought Mirrors, I can't keep going.

[29:03:08] Now they need to do the spells and make sure that is done.

[29:03:11] Big boom.

[29:03:12] OK, here we go.

[29:03:13] Big boom is stopped.

[29:03:15] Oh no, seven seconds.

[29:03:16] They have two more spells to do.

[29:03:17] They're going to make it.

[29:03:18] They need to get zero while we're in the next three seconds.

[29:03:20] Two more.

[29:03:21] Oh, it jumped.

[29:03:22] Time to go under.

[29:03:23] No!

[29:03:23] Oh, it jumped.

[29:03:24] Yeah, it'll run a little bit pear shaped.

[29:03:25] They're 29.1 percent.

[29:03:27] Oh, this boss is so dead.

[29:03:29] Like, damage-wise, they've got it.

[29:03:31] They feel sooo got it dude!

[29:03:32] They're free!

[29:03:33] You can see that as I said at the end of the day, let's gooo!

[29:03:36] This boss is so dead when they get that one right, but he was pretty clear they were like full circus clown cars

[29:03:41] and I think I saw Fana literally getting a little bike and stuff

[29:03:47] Where do I go?

[29:03:48] I don't know, I need to go to the circles!

[29:03:55] Mini went for a ride around the boss as well, he was like, you know what?

[29:03:58] I'm just going to go see the Wablu yonder

[29:04:00] Whatever it is. I want to be free. I want to run

[29:04:05] That's the last one that's it like they've lost just after that and it's

[29:04:10] They got one more charge. Yeah, that's it. They have the charge in another debuffs

[29:04:13] Do they have to use those webs for a charge?

[29:04:15] Yeah, and they have to stop it on top of the boss who will be teleported to the middle crazy

[29:04:19] So we'll have the same as you have that so you get the five debuffs

[29:04:21] You do two before the teleport you do last three on top of the teleport and you time that with the charge

[29:04:26] You get your webs just before the obviously because it's the third web that actually caused the trip up

[29:04:31] Mm-hmm you get them both on top of each other you pop the lust one viage boss a roof

[29:04:37] Yeah, this boss will chunk down if they can get it to that point where they pop bloodlust everyone alive

[29:04:42] Both buses stunned at one after another

[29:04:44] The amount of health that the boss loses is incredible how quickly it melts

[29:04:49] So although it looks like we've still got like just over a quarter of the boss still left to do

[29:04:54] Nope, we've got maybe around what about a fifth of the fight left. It's a very difficult fifth mind you, but at the last week

[29:05:02] Loser, they are five minutes over. It's 100% wine time. There is no way it's not wine time right now

[29:05:09] Can you ask the moderators if liquid killed the courts because there's an update that says they still progging?

[29:05:14] It's their favorite question

[29:05:16] Someone still asked if people coming in did liquid kill it did liquid kill it. They'd know liquid only has four pulls on the silken core

[29:05:22] They're still working on phase one at 83%.

[29:05:26] Honestly, a bit of a shambles from liquid,

[29:05:28] but we'll see what's going on.

[29:05:29] Yes.

[29:05:30] We got a wonderful $10 from Israel,

[29:05:38] playing for the kids.

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[29:05:41] over the course of this race.

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[29:05:48] That's someone entirely different.

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[29:05:50] Bob Ross is?

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[29:06:10] their life $10 from axion keep up the great work guys I love the race will first come

[29:06:15] on echo well you're about to see it so I mean they are like 20 seconds away from

[29:06:20] killing this boss at this point. So we'll, well, yeah, I think I think we've got maybe

[29:06:24] about a minute, a minute and a half left. But um, yeah, we're certainly moving in the right

[29:06:29] direction. Slimey toes enjoy it. Oh, talking of which, oh, you just remember the right

[29:06:35] time. You know I'm not looking like don't refuse me when I know I'm not looking at the screen.

[29:06:39] Can you appreciate how well method is doing a keeping up? We can't wait for the race

[29:06:42] to a first to become a three way split. Hopium, same here. Toe, just totally true.

[29:06:47] of constantly been keeping up throughout occasionally even pulling ahead boss

[29:06:51] percentage wise but in terms of the improvement seen from them over the

[29:06:56] course of last expansion all the way to this one it's it's really good to see

[29:07:00] they're really hungry for it like I had a few drinks with them at blizzcon when

[29:07:04] a lot of method with them you're talking about they were like yeah next

[29:07:07] to him a gore for it I was like I don't think I'll be next year but we've

[29:07:09] been following their progress believe me we pay attention to these things I was

[29:07:12] like two more tiers I think then you're gonna be there because you got

[29:07:16] mind your groove. You still like a lot of players getting together and doing things like that and

[29:07:21] not got that experience yet with a lot of the players of learning a new boss with your own

[29:07:25] strategies and things like that. So I was like, I think you'd like two tiers, you're gonna be there.

[29:07:29] It's exactly two tiers later right now since we had that conversation. Cool. It's just you could

[29:07:35] see that rise in where they were going. And I would really hope I haven't been able to follow

[29:07:39] obviously methods streaming while we're streaming how they've been doing with developing their

[29:07:44] strategies and solutions to some of these bosses because that's the true world first experience.

[29:07:48] Everything else you see someone else do. So you can be great at implementing someone else's

[29:07:53] strategy is not the same as developing your own strategy. Oh, no, definitely not. So really hoping

[29:07:59] really hoping to have a review after this and see how they go on. But fantastic. Yeah,

[29:08:04] something we've all yearn for a long time is it not to be a two horse race? We want

[29:08:08] three, four, five competitors. In fact, the Fat Shark up there really makes me so happy.

[29:08:12] I'm nearly killing Kai Vezer as well like getting close such a good girl

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[29:08:22] Rithya hi Rithya a big shout out to production and the cast is very interesting. Thank you. We do our best

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[29:08:38] So that I can help the kids around I can't wait to see Queen proc

[29:08:41] Hopefully it will be the same as frack between liquid and echo. Oh, maybe method who knows we are all

[29:08:48] Even liquid doesn't know the weirdness and

[29:08:50] Answer act yet as far as we know because it's not really going to kick in until phase three

[29:08:54] Mm-hmm, but we know there is weirdness. That's what we know. There's something fuck you there

[29:09:02] Technical service is something fuck you there

[29:09:05] We'll all see it together. Hopefully we'll see it first that would be the big plan

[29:09:09] Oh, yeah, and the final one here from Jono's bedpan

[29:09:14] Suggested prescribed based on liquids Paul it feels like the boss is way easier if you don't die

[29:09:20] There's sort of leech strats actually that's not the echo way the echo ways to overkill the boss so hard that you can have the

[29:09:25] Raiders die and still kill it. Yes. That's the echo strat, right?

[29:09:30] You want to kill it in phase two?

[29:09:32] Yes, thank you. You want to kill it in phase two ideally?

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[29:10:13] So it's good to see is that I think that pool was a little

[29:10:18] Levity for the guild they seem to be pretty happy. Yes

[29:10:21] That's what they need because they have honestly hours and hours to kill this is still be fine

[29:10:26] I love seeing them

[29:10:28] It's so hard to get scrapped to laugh you just have to say something like you're gonna lose and he starts laughing at you

[29:10:33] I tell him that every morning. Oh dear. Yeah, he walked in this morning. Oh, I stood there

[29:10:42] He's got your head of the game scrappy

[29:10:44] But he's having a good time

[29:10:46] They've not only kept up they crept a little bit ahead on time, but they need to get more

[29:10:50] Yes, they do they need more time and that's a bad

[29:10:53] Excellent way of doing that is by having four people die for getting there Mike. This is my

[29:11:00] Interesting strategy. Yeah, that's too much levity. It's Skype laughs. You doomed if you watch Skype now. Is he still laughing?

[29:11:08] Let's find out

[29:11:09] Yep

[29:11:11] Now he's checking his on the on the present screen above him. Yeah, praise the odd messiah

[29:11:16] Oh man, he is, he worships, it's actually if you played the new Space Marine 2 have you

[29:11:23] played it?

[29:11:24] No, all the time.

[29:11:25] The Mechanicus comes down in the ship and it's like a guy with like 25 monitors or something,

[29:11:31] it's like going visiting scribe for your log report, it's like you're submitting your

[29:11:35] sim for scribe to assess, you go over there and praise the Omniscient, you scribe the

[29:11:40] lands and then he like besmirches you for being bad.

[29:11:43] Oh dear.

[29:11:44] It looks like with that actually yeah, you can see that they're like, okay

[29:11:48] Best pull into the worst pull. Let's take a little break. Oh, yeah fine pull lads new best pull time for wine

[29:11:55] Sorry go to a break. So the killer's imminent. You know it. We know it. You can feel it in the air

[29:12:00] I think I said two hours if you're doing the 45 minutes and I think I'm on target for that if they get two more good

[29:12:06] Pools through that phase. I think this is GGS. It's gonna be exciting man

[29:12:09] It is looking forward to this. Let's go have a little breakie out

[29:12:11] Let's go stretch our legs and then get strapped in go grab yourself a drink go grab yourselves a little snack a roof

[29:12:16] We're gonna do the same things and get back here cuz not least the boss dying

[29:12:19] But we'll have some cool said good to give away to you. Let's have a listen with wave

[29:12:36] Pushes a beta I think you would win

[29:12:40] Think which is a beta? Yeah, but yeah push the bomber everyone's gone bro. They suck leave it all

[29:12:46] Or did everyone say we were pro-legal, what?

[29:12:48] I was watching the sweep there while there was blue orbs

[29:12:51] Even if you hit by the dine

[29:12:52] Yeah, I don't know, sometimes it varies as you're a stinky boot, I mean

[29:12:57] What's the board reviewing?

[29:13:01] Proud of me for the board reviewing

[29:13:04] See, no one said anything either about the orbs

[29:13:09] There's other guests out there

[29:13:11] Why did everyone actually go? It's a food break, oh

[29:13:16] I don't know, yeah

[29:13:21] Guess I stand up as well, then

[29:13:22] Shershiel Legarini's

[29:13:24] Oh, that's not worth it

[29:13:25] Oh!

[29:13:27] I don't know, I'm just telling you, the reminders we had, they were going in the, the tour has gone down hell, yeah.

[29:13:37] The features have been lost.

[29:13:40] Oh, I'm getting IRO, but it's really...

[29:13:42] Licks, I do have to say, we didn't change anything, so it's much for the user.

[29:13:47] I'm telling you that this tour, when I used to press the windrush, the icon would go away,

[29:13:51] when I didn't have it ready, it would be a grey icon, like I'm telling you these things,

[29:13:54] Those things is a personal setup.

[29:13:57] I haven't changed anything on my side of course.

[29:14:00] I haven't touched these boots since then either.

[29:14:02] Oh yeah, I understand.

[29:14:04] You need to adjust your thing.

[29:14:06] Okay, so it reset on your end and they will be out of touch.

[29:14:09] No, I didn't reset.

[29:14:10] We updated it because Ryzen didn't want for the healers to like show the on CD and things like that.

[29:14:16] Yeah, but the way I had set up my Icon stuff is that they are the same.

[29:14:21] They are the same, so just be setting that it's supposed to be great.

[29:14:24] Like, I don't know where the difference is.

[29:14:25] There's a new checkbox added to it.

[29:14:27] And that's one you didn't configure.

[29:14:29] Of course not, I don't go in there for fun to just look if there's been updates.

[29:14:32] It's all to go in there.

[29:14:33] Who's making the gateway after the first charge in P3?

[29:14:37] I'm doing everything.

[29:14:38] Can you put it like closer to the boss?

[29:14:40] Because it's like the boss that's having some damage in case.

[29:14:42] I don't want to hit the boss as well.

[29:14:46] Also to the boss?

[29:14:48] Yeah, I'm into the crab.

[29:14:51] Let's see if we can find the conflicts.

[29:14:53] I think we should.

[29:14:54] I think, are you destroying this?

[29:14:56] By the way?

[29:14:57] He didn't add it to the tour.

[29:14:58] Yeah, passively.

[29:15:00] If you could do a little bit less than him, we'll be done.

[29:15:03] But not here.

[29:15:04] But if me and the patch up.

[29:15:05] After the charge is done and the boss gets like,

[29:15:07] right for boss gets damage up, we want to send like our pillar

[29:15:09] and we get more damage depending on how many mobs we get.

[29:15:12] On that one? In the last place?

[29:15:13] Oh like any, all of them, pretty much.

[29:15:15] All of them.

[29:15:16] Yeah.

[29:15:17] I creeped them with my soul rod passively, but I thought they would not die.

[29:15:23] No, someone else can probably do less.

[29:15:25] No, I can do less. I cannot press T of Corruption for example, to apply my...

[29:15:31] I think only the first in each phase matters really.

[29:15:35] Very sure this is the...

[29:15:37] Like the Dispel one, which is the first one.

[29:15:39] And the Troubleshine is the first one.

[29:15:41] That's not really a big deal, like the first of each.

[29:15:43] The main thing is that if you go with a Presidium Crop, they will lift a bit of the drum on.

[29:15:49] We'll see, we'll see.

[29:15:51] It's 8% more than pro-ad-wits, so it's quite nice.

[29:15:55] That's why sometimes you see a combination with the checkmate.

[29:16:03] It's like doing the same thing together.

[29:16:06] Like Minigameh, because I was bluffing on Paul and killing all the Zeds.

[29:16:21] Like when I came in.

[29:16:22] I'm sorry.

[29:16:23] I'm eating bacon chips right now with chopsticks by the way

[29:16:34] thoughts

[29:16:35] They always eat stuff with chopsticks like I don't want to get them. I just washed my hands. I don't get them dirty

[29:16:40] So I'm eating with chopsticks right now chips

[29:16:42] So go to the leaks we're gonna kill it

[29:17:25] before

[29:17:26] Thanks

[29:17:31] On go

[29:17:33] That's usually how it works when we kill a boss. They usually diamond killer

[29:17:36] exactly I'm so fucking ready to kill this boss to get the mythic spy master in the

[29:17:54] vault I think you're taking this one as we drop some boss I think I should take it I

[29:17:58] said this ball yeah but I'm taking from this boss I just hope it's completely different

[29:18:05] and I'll make it hard both the last bullets like a thousand bullets we can be every other week

[29:18:13] for two we're gonna get two spy masters you take one I take one yeah I need it for

[29:18:17] really just take off by my son you know what I don't know I need to do stuff

[29:18:36] and it's unusual I'm gonna say it there will be as they will be four times

[29:18:43] the fucking tank a string that yeah I mean it's really good I would like to

[29:18:48] No, it's gonna be free spymasters and a grazer for me.

[29:18:53] Hello, welcome back to the stream.

[29:19:21] Oh my God, I thought you were gonna say Fat Boss TV there.

[29:19:24] Freak me the hell out.

[29:19:27] I thought you were gonna say, hello, welcome to Fat Boss TV.

[29:19:29] Hello, welcome back to the stream.

[29:19:31] This is the Silkencork.

[29:19:33] Don't stay underneath the group of the boss,

[29:19:35] while the rest of the human script is on your face.

[29:19:37] Don't go full clown car when you're trying to do it.

[29:19:39] I would not do that.

[29:19:40] not do that as we have indeed just come back from a little break there.

[29:19:44] Little five minutes just have a little refresher after one of our very best pulls.

[29:19:48] Followed up by one of our very worst pulls.

[29:19:50] It looks like there is going to be a ready check going in on this boss

[29:19:53] as me and Mike are going to be with you for the next 10 or so minutes.

[29:19:57] We didn't realize the time at all and we're actually being replaced.

[29:20:01] Yes we are.

[29:20:01] Rightfully so.

[29:20:04] I said too much.

[29:20:05] Yeah, so we are getting the last of the players in though, but yes, an excellent pool coming

[29:20:15] in from Echo where we managed to get the first stun out during phase three, and then the

[29:20:19] second grip did lead to a little bit of confusion, followed by panic, followed by two more to

[29:20:24] do.

[29:20:25] We just bought some of them, they're all in the kitchen, snacking every Chucky Bar

[29:20:28] that's in there, in preparation for their lunch, which is in another hour and a

[29:20:32] half actually they've got plenty of time to kill this before they hit dinner so

[29:20:36] they're just wolfing all the bickies jockey bar oh yeah and I've got to be

[29:20:40] clear to Roger Brown I am not the one stealing all the protein bars that would

[29:20:43] be everybody else um actually well I have seen you Mike we have got CCTV footage

[29:20:48] of you of the potentially 70 I believe protein bars but Roger came to me to

[29:20:53] blame me because I think everybody threw me under the bus I was just about to

[29:20:56] fray on to the bus anyway it's just a natural reaction why do you think that

[29:21:00] this. Because you're a psychopath, Alex.

[29:21:03] Yeah, well, it's certainly not my fault. That's all I know. It's the way I was raised.

[29:21:09] Yes. So what do you think that they, like the rest of their progress looks like, right?

[29:21:15] So is it going to be something where we're going to get a killer at any moment or do

[29:21:19] you think we're going to be looking at 15% into 10% into 5%?

[29:21:23] I don't think that either. Okay.

[29:21:24] This is what you're going to see in the next like 40 minutes when this dies. This

[29:21:27] is dead in about 40 minutes. We're gonna see two scuff pulls, yep, decent pull into

[29:21:32] P3 to get back to the initial overlap, then wipe at that second one again, two scuff pulls,

[29:21:38] decent pull back to phase three where they're gonna get over that hump and then they'll

[29:21:42] see the next overlap which they'll wipe horrendously to, it'll be so bad guys. Then there'll

[29:21:47] be like four scuff pulls because they've nearly killed it, wipe again to it, five

[29:21:52] scuff pulls, do it right once, bloodlust is dead.

[29:21:55] What's happening in 40 minutes?

[29:21:56] Yeah, oh yeah, because the scoff pools are in about 10 seconds.

[29:21:59] Oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the group not being able to get into there.

[29:22:02] I'm talking not even get to into submission, just full crap.

[29:22:04] Not even getting their marks correctly, which didn't actually just happen.

[29:22:07] It's got a lot like an American Pie movie when they give someone some sort of diaretic

[29:22:10] and they just go,

[29:22:11] Oh no.

[29:22:12] And they just go everywhere.

[29:22:13] Hopefully it doesn't happen on this pool though, as we are jumping into pool number 148.

[29:22:19] I have full faith that this is going to be the kill,

[29:22:22] because I certainly hope it is,

[29:22:23] because otherwise we're in trouble because he marries using the new engineering potion that you can basically throw

[29:22:29] Intellect or main step onto a group of five secrets. I believe I think it's made that either a key or int or

[29:22:35] We've got a Jesse. Oh, I mean that hello. Yeah. Hi Jesse. Welcome. Thank you

[29:22:41] Yeah, I saw as we went to the cast room

[29:22:43] I saw you were doing analytics for the non-casters and you're all laughing at various players

[29:22:48] There's a chance that I pulled up the replay and work half logs and put in slow motion the shenanigans that occurred where one person

[29:22:56] Made a little mistake saying no names. No, we would never say any of the names, but we could give hints

[29:23:03] Yes, but don't need to stop giving information up for free. What is this a stream? No, it's true

[29:23:09] So if we do read my job at the desk if we reach 24,000

[29:23:12] And we will sit here and absolutely shit talk the hell out of somebody of your choice.

[29:23:20] New donation goal.

[29:23:21] Cast a shit talk player.

[29:23:22] Definitely not.

[29:23:23] I don't even think you can do on this fight either.

[29:23:28] There is a lot going on.

[29:23:29] It's very, very scary.

[29:23:30] So mistakes, you know, it's a little RNG as to who's going to make them, but mistakes

[29:23:34] do indeed happen is what it is.

[29:23:38] We're going to continue to push on through.

[29:23:40] What's up?

[29:23:41] I'll tell you after the council. Oh, no. Ah, here's the scuff pull. Nice means dead. Uh, but residentable. Yeah

[29:23:48] They're all gonna laugh at him. It's gonna be shambles. There's still an all book still an all book. There we go

[29:23:55] Wish I was raiding all

[29:23:58] Okay, that that pool didn't count we still got time for one more hold on

[29:24:02] We check my phone. Okay. I've done for one more pool. All right

[29:24:04] So that was the scuff one at the end before break. Yes, and this scuff one. This is a face to you

[29:24:09] Okay, nice. So make sure you tune in any phase three. Okay. I'm kind of me. Oh, let me get lost the donations up to the fast because they're on our shift

[29:24:16] Oh, very true. Actually, I will any of the donations that I've come in. Thank you very much everyone who has donated of course

[29:24:21] We're raising funds for games for love an amazing charity that helps kids in hospitals gain access to entertainment and whatnot as well as

[29:24:28] Life-saving care and developing countries and supporting them afterwards. Yeah hybrid panda. Oh

[29:24:33] Get it echo. You guys are great the stream rocks also Alex proud of work proud of you

[29:24:39] I absolutely love listening to you takes me back damn panda dude that it's talk

[29:24:44] We need to talk at one point man off and 20 years. That's crazy. Oh

[29:24:50] No, Shaquille, Tony ill after God's sake

[29:24:58] Are you struggling with a tough though remember just give you half above zero while lowering your enemies health is it works

[29:25:04] Every time that is true. It's not true. Actually some bosses die early

[29:25:09] Jaina proud mode of like a weirdo.

[29:25:11] Damn idiot.

[29:25:12] Get told.

[29:25:13] Should kill Tonyle.

[29:25:15] And our final one before me and Alex,

[29:25:16] bid adieu to you is from Daylightfall

[29:25:22] with $25 for Games of Love.

[29:25:24] Thank you so much.

[29:25:25] Let's go team Echo with love from Team Canada.

[29:25:28] How are you?

[29:25:29] That's my hoser right there.

[29:25:30] Nice to see you.

[29:25:31] Great course to be raising money for.

[29:25:32] I saw you guys get the last tier

[29:25:34] and I'm absolutely loved with World First now.

[29:25:36] Keep on the great work.

[29:25:37] drama time donation go when?

[29:25:40] I would like to, but I think it's inappropriate for the stream.

[29:25:43] Yeah, we would need to have a button that...

[29:25:48] It's not a swearing.

[29:25:49] I could do it without swearing.

[29:25:50] It's honestly the context of the stories.

[29:25:52] If we use the bleep button for the majority of it so that we have no context.

[29:25:58] Just a few occasional words.

[29:26:00] If Echo's happy to do it, I can find a story that is stream suitable but is worthwhile.

[29:26:04] I am totally down to do that.

[29:26:06] Last drama time I do co-op drama time. I'm here Jordan join me. I was right. Oh, it was really dark. Oh, dear

[29:26:14] Oh, man. Oh, we'll get actual drama time

[29:26:17] We'll do a suggestion from production saying that we should get drama time stories from the Raiders here

[29:26:21] Yeah, that would probably for the next year. Maybe. Yes. I think I might need to go a little bit for that

[29:26:25] That's a fun idea though. I like that. Yeah, I imagine a lot of people who are not familiar with drama time

[29:26:30] Would be very very confused

[29:26:36] Unfortunately, it is it is real but they're pushing on here

[29:26:41] We should be moving into the emission in a little while yet

[29:26:44] The energy bar filling up is a good way of tracking when it's coming

[29:26:47] You can follow the energy that's going on as they get a position here to cleave them down do these arms

[29:26:52] I'm gonna see some cool stuff from Fraggo and may bokeh here where they hold each other's hands

[29:26:56] They're a little dragony tails and they move each other as he'd make they drags may bokeh into the web

[29:27:01] Oh, they web each other up and then may bokeh is going to carry them over to the next area

[29:27:04] so that the evokers do not have to even bother with such trivial things like walking.

[29:27:10] Oh yeah, now they fly! You've got wings for a reason for sure. They're making full use of them,

[29:27:14] of course the charge is also giving the rescues, excuse me, giving a huge amount of shield,

[29:27:19] which is very very useful for the players that have the wedge between them taking that ticking

[29:27:23] damage on top of the raid damage as well. It's pretty spicy. Yeah as an evoker pro,

[29:27:27] I'm sorry this is something I keep reminding myself while I'm on gas to research because

[29:27:31] Evoker is actually something I'm not familiar with despite doing all the guides for all the Warcraft classes for like 12 years

[29:27:36] They came a bit after my time for sure the scale mechanic. I know it's called scale something

[29:27:41] Obsidian scales that you can give to other players. Oh that is I can't remember the exact name of it

[29:27:46] But that is from being an augmentation evoker

[29:27:50] You can increase the armor and also like put like a thorns like effect on your tank

[29:27:54] He's normally put it on the tank for it and just keep it up. It's like a freebie for physical hits

[29:27:58] Yes, I believe it's armor. I don't think it's any other sort of damage reduction, but anytime you pop your personal

[29:28:02] I don't know if this is true anymore, but I assume that it still is basically you have a

[29:28:06] You have stances that are basically little auras one of them increase health one of them increase damage one of them increase

[29:28:12] Movement speed excuse me and anytime you pop your personal

[29:28:16] It makes the health one proc and a little bit stronger

[29:28:20] So it's like a tiny little mini rally for the nearest five people

[29:28:23] Very cute. Yeah, they've got loads of small things

[29:28:25] are that one of the reasons that they were so strong in the in mythic class was because of the

[29:28:32] great amount of survivability they added to everyone else as well as making it so they were

[29:28:35] doing tons of damage. I don't know how needed it is anymore nor how much of that utility they

[29:28:40] have maintained into this expansion but I know that they are certainly strong in that regard

[29:28:44] but mainly in 5 man content in raids because it's not all raid bases only nearest four players

[29:28:49] and yourself. Still strong but maybe not as broken. Yeah I could notice here we have

[29:28:53] I've gone full echo by the way they are not even bothering to heal the raid during massive portions of this fight now

[29:28:58] Because it's unnecessary as we now got the stinging swarm out

[29:29:02] That's the dispel for you see them on the raid frames that show the number of who's going so you can see hopeful

[29:29:07] It's next then yank up and may woke up will be the last person to stop this big boom

[29:29:12] You can see that week or a middle screen at Caspar and they're going to delay as long as possible now

[29:29:16] Yeah, they certainly are because they want to make it so this phase also long as big possibly can

[29:29:20] It's not like it was down at 0.1 or anything terrifying, but if you dispel late you stun the boss late

[29:29:25] Which increases the overall duration that you're going to be spending in this phase any extra seconds

[29:29:29] You're getting here is extra damage you're doing on the boss

[29:29:31] It's extra seconds

[29:29:32] You don't need to spend in the last phase or at least maybe extra seconds away from the last phases in rage

[29:29:37] Yeah, we had a race time and we've tried to explain it a few times, but each phase is its own timer

[29:29:42] It's individual and it begins like obviously from the pool

[29:29:45] You get that one and then the next timer doesn't start until the intermission ends

[29:29:49] So you can stay in that intermission

[29:29:52] Allow your cooldowns a little longer to reset without affecting the enrage time of the overall fight because that time

[29:29:57] I will not begin until they enter the final phase phase 3 after the second intermission

[29:30:01] Then a fresh timer begins for when the fight will enrage

[29:30:04] So if they can delay it so they could even last long in the intermission

[29:30:07] We've actually noticed they did do that a couple of you pulls ago and they stopped now

[29:30:10] They're just not bothering. Yeah, it obviously doesn't feel like it's necessary

[29:30:14] But I think they were mainly doing it for cooldowns of some cell point four percent. It's fine

[29:30:18] I've tried not to panic but my heart hurts every time as we have successfully gotten through the second and last web of

[29:30:25] This phase the boss getting absolutely slapped down. We want to be looking at 45% leaving this phase

[29:30:30] We're already on 46 so it was going to be definitely on pace damage wise

[29:30:34] We still have a lot of troubles to go through though in the last phase, so it's nice that we've made the damage check

[29:30:40] It's looking about right in terms of the actual damage, the actual maneuvers that we need to make in the last phase, it's certainly a lot still to do.

[29:30:50] They've had a lot of trickiness with this in submission, as you can see their cannex going down very quickly.

[29:30:54] Zazi I think did he die in an anchor? Looks like cannex either hit somebody or absorb too many orbs.

[29:30:59] One of the two.

[29:31:00] So there's the combat res going out onto cannex now, Rev is going incredibly low.

[29:31:03] They still haven't done this bit smoothly.

[29:31:06] It's always something there is a little bit of maneuvering needed here. You can see the doughnuts that the boss spawns. Nice

[29:31:11] Yeah, they drop albs and you leave your albs in a safe place

[29:31:15] And then simply the doughnut takes up all that room which causes you to delay getting your arm

[29:31:18] They need to be delayed if I need to be grabbed quickly, but there's the shield down in 37 seconds

[29:31:22] Ladies gentlemen, we're back in phase three as I predicted. This is not cool

[29:31:26] They're the fact the bike has predicted this so well is

[29:31:28] off putting this a few times so the first overlap that we're mainly going to be

[29:31:35] looking at here is that the red team and not after baiting a cone towards the

[29:31:38] side they're going to be going directly behind the boss and the blue team is

[29:31:41] just going to be staying where they are now the idea is that we're going to be

[29:31:44] having a grip in but instead of removing all of our webbing we do need to keep

[29:31:48] some of them so you're going to see the red team keeping their webbing

[29:31:50] whilst the blue team get rid of all of it so here we are here comes the

[29:31:54] first web vortex you can see the red team going in and they're all

[29:31:57] just running out to one side blue team is doing a similar thing but they're looking to break their

[29:32:00] webs they are going to have to return to go and soak the orbs around the edge of the room which is

[29:32:04] very difficult whilst you have this ever-increasing circle or decreasing they should still be able

[29:32:09] to do it they've got a little bit of time and they're now going to also be breaking the stun

[29:32:12] as it goes across excellent use of a spirit link there but unfortunately losing three players

[29:32:18] jank up we'll be able to resurrect frago and may vote on fortunately going down two of our

[29:32:24] red players. Not the best, but not the best. Interesting, did not rank during the actual

[29:32:30] weekend phase. Oh, Narko unfortunately seeing if Velo wanted a hug. You want those grips on those

[29:32:37] scarabs. Oh, no scarabs in this last phase though, which is nice. But unfortunately,

[29:32:42] with the amount of orb set all over the place now, I do believe this is the beginning of the

[29:32:45] end. A nice ish first web, but it just wasn't clean enough so that by the time the second

[29:32:52] grip was due to come in we were really far behind it'll be cool if we can get the sun off on this we

[29:32:57] got a couple more dispels that we need to do uh with zazi left here there we go we did make your

[29:33:03] sun it so this is going to be a new best which we should be happy about but the raid is taking

[29:33:06] an incredible amount of damage through the unleashed swarm coming out from an uberash

[29:33:09] boss going into the sub 30s which is good to see but at best of course being 28.9 percent um

[29:33:16] looks like we're going to basically reach that same point it's the same point is this it's not

[29:33:20] not really the HP, it's the actual mechanics of the boss mechanics that we're looking to

[29:33:26] all become, because that one they've actually, they need to get the next bit right, and then

[29:33:31] they can actually see some real progress.

[29:33:33] They are really close towards the end of this phase though, which is excellent to see, but

[29:33:38] it's one thing that me and Michael have to see from the cast of ROOM as we are indeed

[29:33:43] going to be swapping out for the wonderful Jordan and the excellent Mr. Medic.

[29:33:49] We will be passing over to them, but a big thank you from the both of us for sticking around.

[29:33:53] Do stick around even further because there's some excellent prod coming your way and the

[29:33:56] bosses apparently gonna die in 30 minutes because Mike's now an Oracle.

[29:33:59] It will die in approximately 26 minutes.

[29:34:02] There we go.

[29:34:03] That's oddly specific.

[29:34:05] We'll hold you to it.

[29:34:06] Okay.

[29:34:07] Thanks guys.

[29:34:08] We'll be back in a bit.

[29:35:13] Good afternoon.

[29:35:14] We have had a little pasta switch.

[29:35:16] Now you're stuck with us.

[29:35:17] It's me, OK, Mage, and the lovely Medic.

[29:35:19] Hello, hello.

[29:35:20] I'm hoping that my mic is unmuted in time for me to be able to talk, but it wasn't.

[29:35:27] It's still great to be here.

[29:35:28] I saw the red switch flick over as I started talking, Sam and Mitch, a little bit late

[29:35:33] on the trigger finger as have been up some of these betrayals.

[29:35:38] Have you considered pushing the button yourself?

[29:35:41] I mean, that seems like a lot of effort.

[29:35:43] I can't do it.

[29:35:44] I can do it.

[29:35:45] I press I as well.

[29:35:46] At the LEC, they have button pushers forward.

[29:35:48] Yeah.

[29:35:49] Yeah, they push my buttons. Someone, when I cough comes in, it's like, oh, you're about to cough.

[29:35:54] Press the button. Oh no, for someone who doesn't mute their microphone when they take that headset off,

[29:35:59] Jesse, you are talking a lot of smack. I did, in fact, mute my microphone this morning when I took

[29:36:02] my headset off. Oh, so it's just with me? But then I played with it, apparently.

[29:36:09] Sam was very angry with me touching my microphone this morning.

[29:36:12] Well, if you are tuning in for this afternoon, we are deep into Silicon Court progression.

[29:36:19] Liquid taking the cool for early hours of the morning. I think around 12 a.m

[29:36:24] Just before the reset for them. So let's see if echo can push on through and get the kill as well

[29:36:29] It'd be very nice to add this boss is loot table to their weekly bolts potentially on reset

[29:36:35] Which is looming tomorrow

[29:36:37] Especially with things like spymasters web being in there right like that is a huge bonus

[29:36:41] I think fired up got one dropped yesterday

[29:36:44] I would have preferred a tier piece because I still let me have one somehow, but I also haven't used my catalyst so but this is very exciting

[29:37:02] It's so nice to see the guild so close to each other

[29:37:05] See one pull ahead on one boss maybe another pull ahead on another boss in previous retage

[29:37:10] We see this but it always comes down to the final boss Queen answer act who has not been seen. I

[29:37:17] Think liquid did some pulls off stream before the end of their week

[29:37:22] Just before the reset testing out no doubts and we cause and getting other valuable information like timers

[29:37:28] Ready for their reset week to start. So we will be seeing Queen answer

[29:37:34] in a couple of days that Thursday is the explanation I'll be honest kind of glad

[29:37:44] they haven't killed it because we were discussing what we would do if they just

[29:37:48] killed silken core by the time we got on and they're just gonna go dark and

[29:37:51] they're just gonna do like some more splits they're gonna get their M plus

[29:37:54] is make sure everything sorted on that probably kill probably pull queen

[29:37:57] answer a few times off stream so I'm glad we have something to talk about

[29:38:03] I'm glad we have some WoW gameplay otherwise it would have been you and me podcasting which I think would have been amazing

[29:38:08] Oh, yeah, four hours. It would have been great

[29:38:10] But I am entering that stage of the day where I get slightly more loopy. I'm a morning person Jordan

[29:38:15] Not so much an evening person. I'm just always loopy. Yeah, that's true

[29:38:18] Just no matter what we would have been a loopy team together. It would have been great

[29:38:23] Jesse is constantly looking at logs over there

[29:38:25] Do you want us just to randomly ask you questions Jesse or do you are you looking for specific things?

[29:38:29] you can randomly ask me questions at any point when you have one if I have

[29:38:33] something interesting I will thumbs up to let you know to cue me in I yes what's

[29:38:39] your favorite cheese I already knew this actually there's a just cheese

[29:38:44] discussions out we had a pizza topping discussion and Jesse said he wanted

[29:38:47] cheese and I said what type of cheese instead for Gonzalo which doesn't

[29:38:50] predicate that it is your favorite but I kind of assumed in that moment yeah

[29:38:53] there's actually so there's one variety of it that's even better which is a

[29:38:57] blend of the breed plus a Gorgonzola called the cambezzola which is

[29:39:01] extraordinarily nice. Very nice well. Can recommend. Asking you questions that may or

[29:39:07] may not be relevant to progress. They have been doing extremely well. They have

[29:39:12] had back-to-back progress pools and our best pools so far at 28.7% as

[29:39:18] well. Seen quite far into that phase three which is very nice to see. Just

[29:39:23] losing their footing here and there. It's a very particular once you get

[29:39:26] there especially with the mid-the-mechanic with placing the Orbs, the blue team having to go over

[29:39:30] and collect the red team's Orbs, the red team having to go over and collect the blue team's Orbs

[29:39:33] and then at the same time trying to stop the charge with the webs and everything else that's

[29:39:37] going on as well. They will have some really catchy overlaps in that last phase.

[29:39:43] And that's often what's killing them. I think the trail is the second highest death leader

[29:39:48] so far amongst the the Raiders today. Sometimes it's a mistake from a Raider where

[29:39:53] they're walking right when they should be walking left sometimes it is just those overlaps where you

[29:39:57] can't really go anywhere else so we'll have to keep our eyes on that you don't want blue and red to

[29:40:02] touch if you if you'd like i have an example of a betrayal epic proportions i hit us let's pull it

[29:40:08] up on the screen i've got it ready to go here i'm gonna play it in a little bit of slow motion

[29:40:13] as we are looking at a phase three pull where kush gets pulled into the middle

[29:40:16] Luzi's just putting a bit of where to go.

[29:40:23] That was, that was in fact a betrayal.

[29:40:25] Managing to assassinate both tanks.

[29:40:28] Yeah, it's a buy one, get one free on tanks today apparently.

[29:40:31] That's a Tesco Mule Dealer, but I've ever seen one you get a kosher Robin and a Meriz

[29:40:37] to boot.

[29:40:38] Yeah, obviously going right and left can be tricky sometimes.

[29:40:40] I often have to do this to make sure I know which way I'm going.

[29:40:43] I had socks that had the L or the R and I had them on the wrong way around so I didn't have it.

[29:40:50] R sock shaped in a way that you need the L?

[29:40:53] No, no, it had literally written just an L on one for the left foot and an R on the other one.

[29:40:57] And I got laughed at because I had them still on the wrong way around.

[29:41:01] Yeah, that doesn't help if you can't tell which way to take.

[29:41:03] Yeah, that doesn't help at all. And also, in a situation where you need to tell your left and right,

[29:41:08] the house are you taking your shoes off and being like ah so what's the right to my friend

[29:41:14] in the house true but you know the the l trick right with your hands yep that's it that's it

[29:41:24] we love our trick because if you are tuning in don't worry they are taking a little bit of a

[29:41:31] break you are not missing any actions unfortunately you have to listen to us for a little bit longer

[29:41:35] how are you feeling about this boss medic? I feel like it should have been dead a few hours ago

[29:41:40] gonna be honest guys need to get it out pull it out of your pocket just kill the boss if we don't

[29:41:46] have people dying the boss will go down we have enough damage so you're saying if we kill the

[29:41:51] boss before we die the boss dies that is correct before we die yep that is 100 correct yay

[29:42:00] Do you guys have tooltips in loading screens in WoW?

[29:42:04] You don't really?

[29:42:05] Yeah.

[29:42:06] Okay, do you?

[29:42:07] Because in League quite often it would be like you get a tooltip and some of them are

[29:42:12] funny lore facts, but every now and again there will be one that says if you reduce

[29:42:15] your enemies Nexus to 0% before your Nexus is reduced to 0%.

[29:42:19] That comes up in the loading screens and we do have one that is very similar.

[29:42:23] Well, they should just do that.

[29:42:24] Yeah, well they obviously don't pay attention in the loading screens are they?

[29:42:28] I was very surprised because we hit Brew Twister and Nexus Princess Kaiveza and had a significant

[29:42:35] amount of pulls on bosses 5 and 6, but I don't think anyone was really expecting.

[29:42:40] I think Kaiveza racking up 300 pulls Brew Twister in the 170 range and then I feel like

[29:42:48] Silk and Court was a little bit quicker to progress in terms of time and also pulls,

[29:42:56] Which I was a little bit surprised by because on testing a lot of people said that this

[29:43:01] was probably one of the hardest pluses they've ever tested and from looking at it and reading

[29:43:05] the dungeon journal I was also thinking this is a lot, this is going to be very very challenging

[29:43:10] but they are progressing it pretty smoothly, I did think it would take a lot longer than

[29:43:14] it has.

[29:43:15] I think, sorry it was Jesse putting his thumb up there, I didn't see if you were.

[29:43:20] I did, but it's not urgent ever, my thumbs up to say next time you have a gap in

[29:43:25] your conversation I could fill it if you want. Well, I only saw it out of the corner of my eye.

[29:43:34] Uh, no, but quickly before Jesse talks. Good. That is the goal of the thumbs up. You finish your

[29:43:39] thought and then I also didn't know who was like a dirt. I saw, I saw hand motions from the right.

[29:43:44] You know, I didn't, I didn't say it. It's the right, right? Yeah, from the right. Um,

[29:43:48] no, the big thing I think is the difference between, oh God. I'm going to restart the

[29:43:58] the broadcast. Welcome to the League of Legends World Champion. Oh, I messed it up again. Oh,

[29:44:04] that's tomorrow, isn't it? Anyway, welcome back to the next two words first. The big difference,

[29:44:08] I think, between Brute Twister and things like Cvesa is, Cvesa was a pure DPS check. It was a

[29:44:14] wall of a boss. The mechanics were relatively simple, but it was just dodge what's on the

[29:44:18] floor. When you have a fight like the Silken Court, where the idea is it's choreographed

[29:44:25] and it's a dance. In the hour of PTR testing you get, you can't make the weak horrors,

[29:44:29] you can't create this dance, the synchronization is always off. So it's like comparing playing DDR

[29:44:37] to doing a ballet. Right? In a ballet it can, when you start it, it looks really complicated,

[29:44:42] but as soon as you learn the moves, it's a bit simpler. Whereas with, obviously ballet is

[29:44:47] still very difficult, right? But you have to learn the moves. Whereas with DDR, you're

[29:44:51] reacting to what's on the screen and interpreting it in the moment. So that's what I think Kvesa is,

[29:44:56] whereas here, because they've sorted out their synchronization, it's a bit easier for top-level

[29:45:02] guilds to be able to do the same thing consistently. I think you're absolutely right. I think that's

[29:45:06] fantastic analogy actually, and it does almost look like a dance. A lot of these encounters do,

[29:45:10] especially Kvesa, when they're putting the portals in the right place, they're dashing the

[29:45:14] adds that precise banana strat is very nice and then even on this box when

[29:45:21] they're elegantly going around in a circle it looks it is almost like they

[29:45:26] actually are dancing. It's like a waltz so one two three one two that's a waltz right I think.

[29:45:30] Anyway Jesse what you got to say? I actually agree with you I think that the three hard bosses

[29:45:35] thus far you could characterize as Brutwister being a AUE DPS check, Kaveza being a single

[29:45:40] single target DPS check, and this particular fight being a coordination check more than

[29:45:44] anything else.

[29:45:45] Scribe wishing that it was an RTS and he could actually control everyone, where he wanted

[29:45:49] them to be.

[29:45:50] I was taking a look at our best pulls, of which we've had six in phase three in the

[29:45:54] recent couple of hours, and you are absolutely right.

[29:45:57] The vast majority of deaths are to betrayal, or an arrow with an orb.

[29:46:02] And there's two kinds of arrows with orbs, either you soak too many, you get touched

[29:46:05] by death, or you soak two, and then someone else misses one, you get touched by death.

[29:46:09] That is over half of the first two deaths across all of those pulls.

[29:46:13] The remainder deaths are two people standing in a A-Way circle with the beetle put out

[29:46:17] and getting impaled, which kills you, and then two deaths in intermissions due to too

[29:46:22] much damage taken, insufficient healing, insufficient use of personals and things

[29:46:25] like that.

[29:46:26] So still some ancillary deaths, but by far the largest cause is movement, positioning,

[29:46:30] and knowing exactly where to go after the grips, because if you have any hesitation

[29:46:34] there, you cause a betrayal death.

[29:46:36] Yeah, or two of them if you're or three of them because you're always selling in so many

[29:46:41] areas. Are you betraying yourself? I guess you are. You are. Yeah. Interesting. It's worth it.

[29:46:48] It's worth it to take down one of your abilities. I'm gonna go for the other team. I don't know. Are

[29:46:52] you team red or team blue? I am team blue because crabs live in the ocean and that's blue.

[29:46:59] Ignore the color of the crab.

[29:47:00] I said blue first, and then I was like wait crabs are red, how do I get out of this?

[29:47:10] Wait hold on, what's this?

[29:47:12] Yeah, an orangey ready colour?

[29:47:16] Can we get some pictures of crabs that aren't the ones that Sam drew incredibly wonderfully

[29:47:20] on the screen please?

[29:47:21] They are so cute.

[29:47:22] We are still in a break, but I think average colour of spiders, are they more bluish?

[29:47:29] Violetty I guess an average color of crabs for reddish. Yeah, okay, so I'm team I'm team red. All right

[29:47:35] I'll be team blue. You sure you got a crabs rule t-shirt jump on

[29:47:40] But it is also blue that is also yes again. I have

[29:47:45] We've been scuppered by the what color is the ocean

[29:47:48] What color is the crab debate? I have some I have some crab pictures on the analysis

[29:47:52] That's because they look into this difficult question

[29:47:54] I specifically looked up, I googled crabs, I just googled crabs.

[29:47:59] Why has one got sunglasses on?

[29:48:01] Because it's cool.

[29:48:02] Can we look up clean crabs?

[29:48:03] Because I see a lot of, it's not lichen, but some sort of algae and, look there's a whole

[29:48:10] white algae on that middle one, I'm pretty sure that's red under there.

[29:48:14] Not a lot of red here.

[29:48:15] I prefer this one.

[29:48:16] Yeah, so do I.

[29:48:17] That's the one I'm going to get tattooed on me if we get to 40k.

[29:48:20] Yeah, well, speaking of which, while they're not in a pool, we are raising

[29:48:23] money for games for love, providing distraction therapy to children in hospitals, giving them

[29:48:30] their childhood while suffering from terrible, terrible, terrible illnesses. And they also

[29:48:35] provide sponsorships and internships for them later on in life. If they've spent many

[29:48:40] years in hospital due to their illnesses, they can have the opportunity to get the

[29:48:44] education they may have missed out on. So it is a really amazing, wonderful cause.

[29:48:50] I think in the chat to get a link to the Tiltify page and you can contribute $1 helps one child.

[29:49:00] So even if you only contribute $1 that will go very, very far.

[29:49:04] Yeah, really well. And if even 3,000 people in the chat right now contribute to the Dolly,

[29:49:09] you can also scroll down to the panel beneath the stream if you want to find that link.

[29:49:12] We would hit the $25,000 goal to have radar portraits drawn by, I believe,

[29:49:18] I believe we have Alex Ross in the building. He's actually preparing for this moment

[29:49:22] I'm not sure who else is joining him in the raid of Portra. Jitsch. No one else matters when Alex Ross is in the building

[29:49:27] It's very true. It's very true

[29:49:28] Yeah, as we are going into the first film of our shift and the first pull after their break

[29:49:35] Quick, let's do all the cast classes dead on my screen. No way. This one messes up. I'm ready to be all

[29:49:40] What?

[29:49:40] Betty!

[29:49:41] What?

[29:49:41] Betty!

[29:49:42] What was that?

[29:50:03] Experts have been trying to...

[29:50:05] You can take your...

[29:50:07] It's not me?

[29:50:09] Sunfire, my kid?

[29:50:11] I think that's the quickest I've ever cursed anything

[29:50:16] in the history of my cast and career.

[29:50:19] Well, we got that out of the way.

[29:50:21] No way the next pull is in the pull, guys.

[29:50:24] It's our...

[29:50:26] They just were not ready checked

[29:50:28] and they got Mark of Death immediately

[29:50:30] because they didn't soak a scythe. I don't know, I can't see.

[29:50:34] That... that sounded like a 0.1%. That pull ended to a betrayal.

[29:50:40] Biomedic! Four seconds into the pull!

[29:50:46] I love legal and long guys, I've been making it up. A betrayal.

[29:50:50] Four seconds! They have to put on sprint to get from one circle to the other that fast!

[29:50:56] that fast. It's like they heard you.

[29:50:58] I can't breathe.

[29:51:01] So, first pull of our session.

[29:51:03] You're bad from talking. As we're going into another pull, they will need to assign themselves

[29:51:10] a colour as this is the mythic mechanic. You have to deal with all of the things happening

[29:51:15] on Heroic along with having half of your raid marked with blue orbs and half of your

[29:51:20] raid marked with the red orbs. You cannot go next to somebody with the opposite colour

[29:51:26] otherwise you will kill each other. And depending on the ability you will also drop the orbs

[29:51:31] as you can see now. So the blue team need to pick up red team's orbs, red team need

[29:51:35] to pick up blue team's orbs as well otherwise that deals a lot of damage out onto the

[29:51:39] raid. Unfortunately look like we had a few betrayals there where the opposite colours

[29:51:44] were going into each other so this again is a wipe and I'm still blaming you!

[29:51:48] Yeah, that one was my fault as well. I said nothing could go wrong on that one.

[29:51:50] This is like the ultimate cast of cards.

[29:51:52] Yeah, I didn't realise I had that much power.

[29:51:53] Who are you writing for?

[29:51:55] Well, Team Liquid only got less than what I was going to say.

[29:52:00] Oh, it's awesome to see Fat Shot, yes, in the top five actually. Very cool.

[29:52:04] Yes, I don't know who they are but that is awesome.

[29:52:07] They're looking for a long, long time.

[29:52:09] Yeah, just one of the old school guilds.

[29:52:12] Very well known as one of the older guilds that doesn't really indulge in a lot of the

[29:52:15] the degeneracy around the top guild, right? Fewer splits, fewer alts, evening hours.

[29:52:21] They're like instant dollars. Oh yeah, okay. That's sort of the level of yield. We do so,

[29:52:26] say the hot pot heroes sitting in fourth with 14 pulls on the silken court right now. I did ask,

[29:52:32] and I believe that is the accurate translation from it's like a, we were doing a mixture of like

[29:52:36] pinioning in English because we were saying Huiguao heroes, but I believe that is the

[29:52:41] full translation. So that's what I'm going to be sticking with. And once again,

[29:52:44] recorded video first and

[29:52:48] again it's quickly off. I'm

[29:52:49] sorry and apologies if I'm

[29:52:51] getting that wrong, but I'm

[29:52:51] pretty sure I am correct. We're

[29:52:54] moving into another pull 7

[29:52:56] seconds on the clock and

[29:52:57] perhaps a break neck nine

[29:52:58] minutes for these raiders. They

[29:53:02] have the damage. The question

[29:53:02] is. Do they have the skills

[29:53:07] to avoid betrayal in the

[29:53:10] silken coat? Absolutely We

[29:53:12] ideally want this dead before

[29:53:14] put them in very good shape with liquid staying up a little bit later than usual last night to

[29:53:19] secure the kill before their reset today as well. Yeah, obviously Liquid will get into that reset

[29:53:26] a little bit earlier. They'll look for their vaults, they'll go through their splits if they

[29:53:31] have any, and then they have to start reclearing. And it's not going to be the easiest reclearing

[29:53:35] in the world. We have had some tough bosses, but with a little bit more gear, a little bit

[29:53:37] more stamina, it's going to be a lot more simple than it was in week one. So we're not expecting

[29:53:42] numbers to be in the hundreds.

[29:53:44] We're expecting them to be down

[29:53:45] you know, 20s, 50s, 60s,

[29:53:47] depending on how easily these

[29:53:48] players can choreograph the

[29:53:50] dance all the way to the

[29:53:51] Silicon Court.

[29:53:52] As this venom comes down, you

[29:53:54] can see those orbs left behind

[29:53:55] by the red players.

[29:53:56] They will rotate clockwise

[29:53:58] around a new barrage's butt

[29:54:00] to get to the other side.

[29:54:01] All their orbs will be

[29:54:02] collected by the blue players

[29:54:03] and the red players will

[29:54:04] collect the blue orbs in

[29:54:06] kind.

[29:54:07] Yeah, and they're also

[29:54:08] trying to make sure that

[29:54:09] they're stacking the bosses

[29:54:10] as much as possible

[29:54:11] as they do share health, so any cleave is going to be doing really, really well at this point.

[29:54:16] Unfortunately, with the new, it's not new brash, it is.

[29:54:19] T'Kahj.

[29:54:20] T'Kahj jumps around kind of randomly, so you can't always stack them, unfortunately.

[29:54:27] But they will try and get as much uptime on their cleave as possible,

[29:54:31] as a new brash will be doing his main ability, which is a charge across the platform,

[29:54:36] needed to be broken by these webs that are stretched out on mythic requiring

[29:54:41] three of them, apologies, as they are now taking increased damage trying to get out as much as

[29:54:47] possible as this boss transitions based on timer, not health per cent. So any damage that they

[29:54:52] can knock off here is less likely to have to do in the final phase. Yeah, basically we see two

[29:54:57] cycles of each boss's mechanic in each phase. So phase one, we see two charges, then we move

[29:55:02] into the intermission phase two we see two of the dispels where you have to dispel five times

[29:55:06] then we move into the intermission and then after we get out of phase uh the second intermission

[29:55:10] we have a three minute timer before the hard enrage now the hard enrage is survivable for a

[29:55:16] little bit because basically both the bosses just start slapping the ever-loving hell out of

[29:55:20] people so you can tank it a little bit if you can keep your dps alive or if you have

[29:55:24] both your tanks at that point we've seen a couple of deaths here jingy fell down uh wolf

[29:55:29] went out as well and it's looking like it is likely to be another wipe.

[29:55:34] Yeah, struggling to find their feet a little bit. There has been a little bit of reprog for Echo today

[29:55:38] as there was a change to the boss last night for you. I think it came in at maybe 11 30 p.m.

[29:55:47] The boss was fixed so they could no longer one tank, which is what they progressed with yesterday.

[29:55:53] the tank swap, the tank buster, was meant to not, I think it persists through death now so they

[29:56:01] wasn't meant to one tank it. So Blizzard fixed that and then to compensate for bringing one less DPS

[29:56:07] in the raid by bringing two tanks there was a 5% boss HP nerf as well. So they had to change

[29:56:13] the strategy a little bit bringing in the second tank as a necessity. But yeah ideally we want

[29:56:18] to be seeing them getting later on, getting to the phase three because they need to practice

[29:56:22] the overlap in phase three that final overlap the charge with the dispels both bosses taking

[29:56:28] double damage that's where it's all going to come down to yeah in essence the piercing strikes

[29:56:33] wasn't always going through death which is a bug that was changed but also it now does 100%

[29:56:38] increased damage a thousand percent increased damage whereas it used to do 100% increased

[29:56:42] damage so what we were doing was we'd have I think the stacks fall off a little bit quicker

[29:56:46] now Jesse as well yeah they changed it from a one minute duration to about a 30 second duration

[29:56:50] So you can easily alternate back and forth to make up for the thousand percent increased damage taken, but that makes it, you know,

[29:56:57] Reliably two-tankable in a way that it wasn't before. When it was lasting a minute, you couldn't reliably get rid of your stacks even with two tanks.

[29:57:02] So Echo said, well, since we have to deal with multiple stacks, let's just see how far we can back up.

[29:57:06] And they were just having nice memes tank a shot and

[29:57:09] Nether if to wait for it so that he didn't actually take the damage from it and then allowed

[29:57:13] merises tanks to fall off at the time now two tanks it is much more reliable

[29:57:18] that mechanic isn't really what's killing anyone anymore right it's just you

[29:57:22] taunt I taunt you taunt I taunt you just switch it around between the two of you

[29:57:26] to make sure that you are dealing with that what is killing us is betrayal and

[29:57:31] not managing to avoid these orbs or avoid each other at times we'll see the

[29:57:36] first mechanic the first big mechanic of phase one in this charge from a

[29:57:40] new barash you can see him charging it up we've already lost two that looks like it was a betrayal

[29:57:44] between nice beams and frago and then everyone else will die and i i am slightly surprised that

[29:57:49] slamming your head into a wall at that velocity is enough of a shockwave to kill everyone in the

[29:57:54] raid i'm wondering what that would need to be on like a seismic chart for actually to kill

[29:58:00] everyone yeah because usually when i do that i just harm myself yeah and he doesn't take any

[29:58:04] damage when he does it i know it's just unreal it's very strange to me big chungus out here

[29:58:09] Flattening his foes and we have another white coming out. I'm sure the chat is already calling for the previous classes to come back on because they're

[29:58:15] Last three pools all in like the 30%

[29:58:18] Bring back Alex

[29:58:21] Medic 4

[29:58:23] Unfortunately, we have sacrificed them to the greater good to summon the kill as you can see by the portraits

[29:58:30] These are all the people we've killed today in blood sacrifice sacrifice

[29:58:34] So it's just Jesse, Jesse Jordan and I, now still in the building.

[29:58:38] Well Jesse is a ghost, so even though he's on this portrait, his ghost is still with us on the desk.

[29:58:43] But it was a worthy sacrifice for a worthy cause, otherwise how will they down the boss without this blood sacrifice?

[29:58:49] Sometimes you need to really commit to the bit.

[29:58:53] And that's what we did there, just kept going with the blood sacrifice that has been laid on the altar of Queen Ancerek.

[29:59:01] Can we get to her today or is it going to be a re-clear and a reset for Echo with Liquid waking up soon?

[29:59:09] They will want to have this boss down by the time their NA opponents do rise out of their slumber and

[29:59:16] With how the pools are going now

[29:59:17] We have had a few bad ones in a row

[29:59:19] But they were getting very consistent at getting through phase one getting into phase two and then trialing out phase three

[29:59:24] And they definitely have the damage if they can make it work for the first four five minutes of this fight

[29:59:30] The expectation is assuming no one dies that they can get through P3 as well

[29:59:36] But there are a lot of overlaps in that phase three both of the bosses doing their mechanics sometimes even at the same time

[29:59:41] Which will increase your damage on them as well

[29:59:44] Which is great because when you stop them from managing to get the charge off or get that massive explosion off with the

[29:59:50] Cataclysmic entropy I think it is with the spells you can get that hundred percent damage buff

[29:59:56] But you have to be able to stop them from doing it, which is always a bit tricky.

[30:00:00] Yeah, and they have been really clutch on those dispels as well.

[30:00:04] We'll inevitably get back into phase two, we'll be able to see it in action, but they

[30:00:08] have been delaying those dispels so that they are really squeezing all five out just as

[30:00:16] the cast is about to go off.

[30:00:18] So they spend more time in that phase and try and, you know, go into the final phases

[30:00:23] that they're not going to be

[30:00:27] able to do this with as less HP

[30:00:29] as possible because on this

[30:00:32] fight. The combat time of kind

[30:00:34] of starts for the different

[30:00:36] phases when they go into it. So

[30:00:38] when they go into phase three,

[30:00:39] they have three minutes in

[30:00:41] phase three, so it doesn't

[30:00:43] necessarily matter. Boss

[30:00:44] percentage or the total

[30:00:45] combat timer. It starts when

[30:00:47] they enter phase three. So any

[30:00:49] damage that they can knock off

[30:00:50] in phase one phase to the

[30:00:51] to fight through in the later phase as well. And you can almost knock off damage in the intermissions

[30:00:56] as well. We have seen some intermissions go a little bit longer and people are wondering why

[30:01:00] didn't they just take out the shield immediately. They're waiting for cooldowns. They want those

[30:01:03] cooldowns to be back up so that they can then pump out the damage during these 100% damage phases,

[30:01:08] 100% increased damage phases that both the bosses have. So if you see an intermission go a little

[30:01:13] bit longer than you expected, usually it's three waves. That's likely what the players

[30:01:17] are doing or they're just bad and forgot to DPS the boss. I'm gonna go with the first one but it's

[30:01:21] up to you which one you decide. That's such an excellent point. That is very much the case because

[30:01:26] you know depending on what spec you're playing your cooldown is gonna have a certain amount uh

[30:01:31] it's gonna have a certain time of four and then it's back up again some class with being two

[30:01:34] minutes three minutes one point five one and a half minutes um so they can kind of spend a lot

[30:01:39] more time in the intermission while surviving of course because this is a lot of damage

[30:01:44] posting out across the entire raid then it allows them to time for the cooldowns to be

[30:01:50] available again ready to send when they need it aka you know the boss is vulnerable windows

[30:01:55] or just in general.

[30:01:56] Yeah and you see here the first intermission 48.7 seconds was how long it took to break

[30:02:01] Takaj's shield. We'll now see Takaj moving into her face the place where she dominates

[30:02:07] mostly and we'll see her mechanics. We're looking for dispels so we have these grips

[30:02:10] in break the webs. That's fine. As everyone just wants to get out of dodge and then soak

[30:02:15] few of the other team who have just, I say the other team, the other side of the raid

[30:02:19] who have just been gripped in as well. In a moment, we will get her dispels and then

[30:02:23] we'll see how much rice and has to prioritize making sure the right people are being dispelled

[30:02:28] at the right time. Yeah, as we have the final dispel now, just one remaining. You

[30:02:34] can see the big boom, the class three seconds left to one and they're just going to

[30:02:39] to get as much uptime on the

[30:02:43] boss to extend this phase as

[30:02:45] long as possible. The more

[30:02:47] damage you can get out there

[30:02:49] as well. The better than it is

[30:02:50] down right now. Combat Res up

[30:02:52] in 20 seconds. You can tell

[30:02:53] from the bottom right corner

[30:02:54] of your screen. It says

[30:02:55] combat has been four minutes

[30:02:56] 10. You get one every four

[30:02:58] and a half minutes in a

[30:02:59] fight. So when we take over

[30:03:01] the 430 that number above

[30:03:03] it will go to one and you

[30:03:04] know we have a combat res

[30:03:05] available. Than obviously very

[30:03:07] obviously very important to bring back up. You want as much healing as possible in these fights,

[30:03:12] but for now, not too much rate damage going down. Obviously, it can be very tricky as the

[30:03:18] pubs come out and Velo falls as well, so lacking that extra healer meant we couldn't really keep

[30:03:23] everyone topped up. It's going to be Fena who is brought back, and again, we see Takaj

[30:03:27] teleporting to the middle. There's the big boom, seven seconds on it.

[30:03:30] Yep, they have just the one more dispel. That's unfortunate when you lose a couple of

[30:03:34] of healers may be struggling

[30:03:36] with the dispels depending on

[30:03:38] how many you lose and when you

[30:03:39] lose them, but they do

[30:03:40] successfully interrupt the big

[30:03:42] boom, making the boss take

[30:03:44] increased amounts of damage

[30:03:45] to try to pump as much as

[30:03:47] possible with the boss on

[30:03:48] 44% that is absolutely

[30:03:51] incredible. Think that's in

[30:03:53] the line with some of their

[30:03:54] best pools today. Yeah, it's

[30:03:56] really good. Usually about 45.

[30:03:57] I do think actually flag is

[30:03:58] playing org or dev because he's

[30:04:00] got DPS thing on his side.

[30:04:01] So it is all good focus. I

[30:04:02] misspoke on that saying that

[30:04:03] He was a healer. Apologies for my side. Now we see the donuts. This is the second intermission

[30:04:08] It has been causing some issues for Echo so far. You have to walk around. Don't get hit by the donuts

[30:04:13] Because that will leave an impending spike on the floor, which will do a lot of damage to people near it

[30:04:17] They pick up the orbs. They continue to rotate around

[30:04:20] Pulsing damage coming out from Anubarash as well. They're looking to break that shield

[30:04:24] Once again as that pulse comes out orbs are left

[30:04:26] You see the cycle going around but with Canix and Bello down. I'm not sure how much longer we can continue this

[30:04:31] to get the boss down. So we

[30:04:34] have three minutes to get the

[30:04:35] bosses down. So we'll be

[30:04:37] dragging the boss over to the

[30:04:38] corner of the room, trying to

[30:04:39] get as much cleave onto the

[30:04:42] bosses as possible. As they

[30:04:44] share health. They can really

[30:04:46] shave off some HP here, and

[30:04:48] they will have some damage to

[30:04:50] get the boss down. So they

[30:04:52] will have some damage to

[30:04:54] get the boss down. So they

[30:04:56] will have some damage to

[30:04:58] get the boss down. So they

[30:04:59] and they will have some serious overlaps to deal with as well.

[30:05:03] Yeah, also trying to bait that frontal out to the side to make sure it doesn't actually stop anyone from DPS

[30:05:07] and you saw that web going towards the red group. Now they'll hug next to this wall to make the grip into orb soak even easier.

[30:05:14] You can get gripped, you go to the right and then you go round, pick up these orbs, get out a dodge, get out of that big circle.

[30:05:20] On the other side the red can just go straight through and pick up your orbs, making it much simpler than having to try and find out where the orbs are.

[30:05:27] the orbs are. Good first soak, still too dead, no res obviously for a few minutes time, but

[30:05:31] this is good. They didn't get the webs out in time and that is a wipe for Echo. But once

[30:05:38] again a phase three which is what we'd like. Yeah we want to see them get into phase three

[30:05:42] it's not just possible as we're saying that's the prog point and there'll be several

[30:05:45] overlaps in phase three where they really need to find their feet. That very very

[30:05:50] end point being the dispels with the charge at the same time that's going to

[30:05:55] really tricky to pull off. As

[30:06:00] you get dragged in, you saw

[30:06:00] from even the first charge,

[30:06:02] they get dragged in. They have

[30:06:03] to make sure they're not

[30:06:05] breaking the webs on the

[30:06:06] players that have to stop the

[30:06:08] charge while also picking up

[30:06:10] the other teams orbs getting

[30:06:12] out of the way. And then

[30:06:14] stopping the charge in all at

[30:06:16] the same time, which while

[30:06:18] they are the other than Joe

[30:06:20] nuts are going out across the

[30:06:21] room is really, really tricky.

[30:06:23] And it's so easy for one person to blink away, for one person to dash away, and then you just find out that that yard too far, the web's broken, snapped in half.

[30:06:33] There was a discussion earlier as to whether how can a web snap when it's stretched out that far, but also managed to stop an uberash.

[30:06:40] And I think people forgot about the ductility and malleability of metals.

[30:06:45] Because obviously the web isn't metal, but ductility and malleability is the idea of being smacked.

[30:06:50] Can something be smashed into a sheet

[30:06:51] or can it be drawn out into a long rod, right?

[30:06:54] I can't remember which round it is.

[30:06:55] I'm gonna say ductile is being drawn out into a rod

[30:06:57] and malleability is being smashed into a sheet.

[30:07:00] So I think these webs are moderately ductile,

[30:07:02] but very malleable and that's what they get the strength from.

[30:07:05] And so if you draw it out too far, it just snaps.

[30:07:07] No, well, there you go.

[30:07:08] That's what I'm gonna put out there.

[30:07:10] Noted.

[30:07:11] I also, I learned that in high school,

[30:07:13] which is like 15 years ago.

[30:07:15] So I might be entirely incorrect on everything I just said.

[30:07:17] I trust everything you're saying.

[30:07:19] I never liked it. Oh, Velo going the wrong way. You got to go up the stairs, mate.

[30:07:23] You're not going to brew Twister anymore. I love this little run like...

[30:07:26] Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.

[30:07:28] It looks like it's sped up. It does look sped up.

[30:07:31] Well, actually, they do get a movement speed increase at the start of the raid, so that could be why.

[30:07:36] I don't know what that bluey purpley... Yes, so at the start of what they were,

[30:07:43] I think it's the start of the raid entrance, off to the side.

[30:07:46] I think it's an NPC that you can buy every flight point, but you can click on it. I think it's an NPC

[30:07:53] and you will kind of drink a potion which increases your movement speed for two minutes,

[30:07:58] maybe, or for a duration of time. I assume until you go into combat, because otherwise

[30:08:04] there's some min-maxing right there. It's so easy, the orbs are so easy, I just run around.

[30:08:10] Yeah, unfortunately most things get cancelled when you go into combat and that is one of

[30:08:16] them.

[30:08:17] Otherwise, that would be quite helpful in this fight, I imagine.

[30:08:20] Incredibly legitimate.

[30:08:21] Who would it?

[30:08:22] With the webs and then dropping the orbs in a precise way and then not going into the

[30:08:27] opposite team?

[30:08:28] I think for you and I, it might cause more harm than good.

[30:08:31] Oh yeah, we'd just be rooming around in circles.

[30:08:34] Speed Racer.

[30:08:35] You put the one person with the web in the middle and you just try and run around

[30:08:39] room as quickly as possible. But I think for people as precise as these players probably would work well

[30:08:45] and we're back into another pool as we saw the release run back, the run of shame there for

[30:08:51] Velo and for Rison here to come back in and res everyone and we move once again into phase one.

[30:08:58] Another good pool getting back into phase three is exactly what Echo wanted. The question is,

[30:09:04] can they be consistent about it? Because we had a few missed pools when we came back onto

[30:09:09] the cathodes. Yeah making sure they are dodging the frontal and also you'll see

[30:09:14] these ranged pairs out in position they will be the ones that are collecting the

[30:09:19] webs and they'll be leaving orbs at range as well so they've got a little buddy

[30:09:23] system happening with their little tether buddies and they will need to go out

[30:09:28] and pick the orbs as well as you will see they're now moving into their

[30:09:31] little buddy pairings breaking the web putting a tether on both of them as

[30:09:36] They do this little dance in a little circle to collect each other's orbs

[30:09:39] and then stretch the web to stop the charge.

[30:09:42] And you might wonder why sometimes the web seem much closer to where a new brush is charging from

[30:09:47] and sometimes they seem much further away.

[30:09:49] It's because they're trying to track where Takahashi is going to be.

[30:09:51] Now here Takahashi does just leap away so you can't get that cleave damage off

[30:09:55] but often you'll want a new brush to end up where the scarabs are.

[30:09:59] There's the lance that we keep seeing and where Takahashi is so that you get so much damage.

[30:10:03] later on then actually bring those webs forward because the color jumps into the middle of

[30:10:06] the room meaning that you can try and align some cleave damage.

[30:10:10] Yeah you can see the mage is kind of hugging each other here which is nice because when

[30:10:14] we decide to erratically blink out of mechanics we know we're always just going to land

[30:10:18] on the other mage who's the same color.

[30:10:20] Easy.

[30:10:21] Yeah that is nice.

[30:10:22] I thought you were going to say it's nice because...