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Team Falcons vs MOUZ - BLAST Slam VI, Day 3: Group Stage

02-05-2026 · 12h 12m

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[00:02:00] You
[00:11:30] 2 Days of Best of 1 ends with this final day here on the third day of Blast Lamp 6's
[00:11:48] group stage.
[00:11:49] Purposties in winter technique through the action and we are in a bit of a pickle winter.
[00:11:55] Things started out so fresh, so fruity, so fun.
[00:11:59] he was ready to face off in these games.
[00:12:01] We had our expectations, we had our teams lined up,
[00:12:04] but then somewhere along the line,
[00:12:06] I think started to get a bit messy.
[00:12:08] He come in, day one, looked amazing for OG 4-0,
[00:12:12] some of the more unexpected results, right?
[00:12:15] You're seeing maybe Liquid, Falcons, Yandex, Spirit,
[00:12:18] not really doing quite as hard.
[00:12:20] And then suddenly, it go through day two,
[00:12:23] everything's all switched around,
[00:12:24] Tundra back on top, no surprises there,
[00:12:27] but suddenly some of these teams
[00:12:29] we were expecting to make it up in the standings are climbing their way back out but unfortunately
[00:12:34] for teams like Spirit, Miles Falcons still struggling a little bit here. Yeah definitely a lot of
[00:12:40] very very interesting results yesterday a lot of upsets a lot of teams finding a way to rectify
[00:12:47] their problems on day one so I'm sure today the games are going to you know move the standings
[00:12:53] a lot again you know all this B01 anything can happen if you're not ready you're not
[00:12:57] in 100% shape you're gonna get punished by your opponents. Absolutely and these
[00:13:03] breaks at the night between each of the best of one Madness days are the only
[00:13:08] chances teams and their coaches get to actually sit down and revisit some of
[00:13:12] the mistakes of the day maybe watch some of their opponents gameplay as well and
[00:13:16] try and study as much as you can it's a very hectic format here and it's tough
[00:13:21] right because we saw those standings a bit earlier
[00:13:23] Top two teams advance directly to the semifinals.
[00:13:26] So if you're in top two, which are where Tundra as well as Na'Vi are,
[00:13:30] well, Na'Vi not really right because there's a bunch of teams tied at 5-3 right now.
[00:13:34] So you're really trying to fight for that first two spot because that means the next few days,
[00:13:39] you actually get to chill, take a break and rest all the way until the semifinals live in Malta.
[00:13:45] For the rest of the teams, it's a lot more hectic than that.
[00:13:47] Third to eighth place proceed to the play-ins, but first off, there's last chance play-offs from 9-12.
[00:13:52] So, a bit of a different format from what a lot of Dota 2 fans are used to.
[00:13:56] I think we are kind of accustomed maybe to more after a group stage ends,
[00:14:00] then maybe you see four or six or even eight teams after teams cut off at that point.
[00:14:05] There are a lot more learning opportunities here, even for those at the bottom of the standings.
[00:14:09] What are you expecting in winter?
[00:14:11] Because we are starting to see some of these teams that were struggling on day one
[00:14:14] start to find their footing.
[00:14:16] Where's your head at?
[00:14:18] What do you think we're going to end up seeing at the end of today?
[00:14:22] I think at the end of today, we're probably going to see like the clear cut mid tier teams.
[00:14:29] I think the teams are going to be stuck in the middle.
[00:14:31] I think the top and the bottom, it's probably going to stay that way most likely.
[00:14:36] I mean, it's the middle of the pack that might see some shuffles and some will go to the top, some will go to the bottom.
[00:14:42] So it'll be the battle of the middle pack, I feel like today.
[00:14:46] And interesting enough also that you mentioned like the format right, like I think the format is really really good for
[00:14:51] newer teams that need experience like this format playing a lot of BO1s and then you at least
[00:14:56] Guaranteed one BO3 in the last trans qualifier. All these games are very very important especially for
[00:15:03] Like a team like Reconyx, right? You need to come here. You need to play a bunch of games. You need to learn
[00:15:07] Like the expectations maybe it's not gonna be as high but the learning opportunity is gonna be very very good for for teams like this
[00:15:14] Yeah, maybe this particular international tournament not the time for a team like Reconyx to strike just yet
[00:15:20] But they do have many other major tournaments coming up in the next few weeks that they've qualified for as well
[00:15:25] And maybe that's when they start to mature and build on those fundamentals
[00:15:29] Speaking of the teams in the middle of the pack winter
[00:15:31] Are there any that you have your eyes on because for me, I'm a bit surprised to see Falcons here
[00:15:36] And like I know we were talking a bit about it during our downtime
[00:15:39] How come Falcons seem to be struggling a little bit? It started really after TI right with Dream League season 27
[00:15:45] most recently. They didn't make it to top six and because of that suddenly we're seeing
[00:15:50] Falcons in a place we have never seen them before. Qualifiers. When's the last time you
[00:15:54] saw these guys actually run the Gauntlet? They had some, I want to say, shaky moments throughout
[00:16:01] but still very much made it through these qualifiers that they were put in. But now in this group stage,
[00:16:07] in the Blast Madness, they seem to be a bit shaky. They're still drafting towards some of these
[00:16:14] signature heroes that we know them for. They are hero specialists after all. It's not really
[00:16:19] working out for them. I think historically they always do badly in the new patches and obviously
[00:16:27] you also can attribute that to post TI lack of motivation. You just want a TI and then people
[00:16:32] are just going to drift away a little bit. You won't play so much and then now they're
[00:16:38] starting to feel the heat. The other teams are chasing up so I expect them to slowly at
[00:16:44] at some point get back into the group but even right now you can't really
[00:16:47] attribute everything to the post TI you know low motivation factor the patch I
[00:16:53] think doesn't necessarily suit them because the patch is really really fast
[00:16:57] right now the pace of the game is quick and falcons they always tend to be the
[00:17:01] team that's been associated with a team that will take the game a little bit
[00:17:05] slower they farm the map they have very very greedy cause three greedy cause the
[00:17:11] supports also kind of greedy in some way like snaking is another call so
[00:17:15] essentially they have four calls on the team so this fast pace meta kind of I
[00:17:20] think took a hit on their strength you know so right now they need to figure
[00:17:24] out what heroes to adjust how they're going to balance the economic battle you
[00:17:29] know how they're going to make sure that the calls are still going to be able to
[00:17:33] farm and get the auras at the same time absolutely and we're still seeing them
[00:17:37] go back for many of their favorites that worked for them in the past I saw
[00:17:40] Malrin bust out Alina just yesterday, you're still seeing this Sand King, you're still seeing some
[00:17:45] of the favorites from the supports as well. But speaking of going back to comfort picks,
[00:17:49] we have the opponents for the first best of one of the day, none other than Maus.
[00:17:52] Now this is a team that we always like to talk about mid one,
[00:17:56] damage, that connection right there. And these two players are not really having the best time
[00:18:01] because in their wins, they are steamrolling their opponents just like the good old days of maybe
[00:18:06] three, four months ago, but they are clearly not at the same power level. They're still going back
[00:18:11] to similar strategies that serve them well when they were rising up. And like you keep saying,
[00:18:16] the meta has changed. It's not really favoring these two teams anymore. And it reflects in the
[00:18:21] standing. So at Falcons currently three to four, Maus two to five. If I'm not mistaken, I'm not
[00:18:26] the best at math. I know. Sorry, mom. But two five means that if you want to keep yourself out of
[00:18:32] last chance, you got to win it all. You got to just get a clean streak today.
[00:18:38] Yeah, no more duals, no more second chances. You have to win all your remaining games to have
[00:18:45] even a slightest chance to get out of the last chance qualifiers or the last chance games. So
[00:18:51] mouse, they're definitely, I think they got hit the hardest in the support pool. I feel like
[00:18:55] like they could not really find good enough replacements to the support duo.
[00:19:02] You see Yame trying to play the range here, even Celery, you know yesterday we saw him
[00:19:05] play the trend, he doesn't play the hero.
[00:19:09] It's not his type of hero you know, I think he's more of the type that want to farm aura
[00:19:13] items, push dead land, he is more like the greedier side.
[00:19:17] Trend is very very different you know, it's a lot of, it's a very complicated hero, you
[00:19:22] You need to know where you need to go, are you supposed to move around, scout for information?
[00:19:27] He's kind of a mix of a dead lane hero and a slot type of hero.
[00:19:31] Information slash dead lane hero, not just the dead lane hero.
[00:19:34] So I think Celery kind of struggles with finding information part on that hero.
[00:19:39] So hopefully he's going to find something else that I think suits his place some more,
[00:19:43] like a snap fire, a warlock for example.
[00:19:47] Those are heroes that I think he would excel at.
[00:19:51] back in the day, gaming gladiators, glory days, where Celery was on that team. There
[00:19:55] was always the ench and the chans that sped out, right? These greedier, kind of almost
[00:20:00] use your body and occupy spaces on the map. It's a lot less sneaky, it's a lot more upfront.
[00:20:06] He can just stand there, he knows his limits, but with Trienne, you can't really just walk
[00:20:11] up. You've got to be very careful with where you show because I think teams are also getting
[00:20:16] a bit better at planting those defensive sentries, waiting for you, especially in the mouse game
[00:20:20] that we clustered yesterday winter we saw celery caught out a lot of times where it really felt like he shouldn't have been
[00:20:28] Yeah, just areas you are supposed to just avoid
[00:20:31] That's when you're playing the pseudo in this hero in this heroes you you kind of just have to be careful when you're walking into you know
[00:20:37] especially the
[00:20:38] The junctions or the stairs, you know people are usually going to have centuries in those areas
[00:20:43] I mean, it's not that you're not you're not allowed to die, but just the way he got caught is
[00:20:47] It's like he gave it, he gave himself away too easily, you know.
[00:20:52] You need to make it harder for your opponents to kill you as a Trion.
[00:20:56] Yeah, killing the tree easy then so much of his...
[00:21:00] Yeah, he's supposed to waste your time and make you put in more effort to find him, you know.
[00:21:04] So you cannot be giving away freebies like that.
[00:21:07] Exactly, you want them to burn at least two dusts, one sentry.
[00:21:10] Two dusts bro.
[00:21:11] At least one and a half ultimates, you know what I'm saying?
[00:21:14] And then, if you can TP out, that's the cherry on top.
[00:21:17] We're not going to see that, we'll see.
[00:21:18] Miles pick up the Huskar to start things out and the immediate AA counter Falcons, almost
[00:21:24] like they were prepared for this.
[00:21:25] They're very ready.
[00:21:27] I mean, they are also a Huskar team, right?
[00:21:29] So they know what hero counters Huskar the most.
[00:21:32] It's got to be AA, Doom.
[00:21:36] I think Brood should be the third one with the Necrotic Web, so the anti-healing mechanics.
[00:21:40] AA definitely feels like a fit snaking's playstyle a bit more, right?
[00:21:46] 5 that has the capacity to farm thanks to that vortex. Not the strongest laner you almost
[00:21:53] want to care someone strong with him. You need a stun with you like a Sven, Alchemist,
[00:22:00] God forbid Rave King.
[00:22:02] Don't, don't. Brother, wait, we're not doing it, we don't do that here. We don't do that here. Get
[00:22:09] him out of here. We're not doing that. Yeah I know, I know. So probably Sven, those are the ones
[00:22:14] once they really like to lane with A. Jiro is okay too. Because Jiro doesn't allow you
[00:22:20] to get bullied as A because of the flag cannon. You just shove the wave and get your XP.
[00:22:24] So those are the heroes that you want to pair A with. It's a support that you need to enable.
[00:22:29] I feel like Jiro has not really been very successful at least in the past two days.
[00:22:38] I'm going to quickly look up the stats for the win.
[00:22:41] Yeah, he has a pretty low, yeah, I know, he has a pretty, like, 20% win rate or something, so low.
[00:22:46] And this guy went from being, like, first picked overall and everything. What happened?
[00:22:51] He got nerfed, brother.
[00:22:53] He took two nerfs.
[00:22:54] The first nerf was to the call-down damage.
[00:22:56] I think it was reduced by 100, the previous patch.
[00:22:58] And then the latest patch, his base attack time got nerfed, you know, so his laning took a hit.
[00:23:03] His teamfight took a hit.
[00:23:05] He's been picked 4 games and he has 1-0 games so far.
[00:23:10] Yeah, not a very encouraging statistic.
[00:23:14] What is encouraging for Falcons fans is seeing the Mars come out on their side,
[00:23:18] you're never going to hate that.
[00:23:19] You can ban out the Timbersaw, the Viper, the Razor,
[00:23:23] but a Mars always gonna have a couple more tricks up his sleeve.
[00:23:27] Daked Teamfight already secured 4 Falcons,
[00:23:30] and some good control into Falcons as well.
[00:23:33] Five-trick pony, you know, he can't ever ban everything. I thought eight. I can listen to it. Yeah
[00:23:39] Timber, Razor, Marus. I remember there was a point in time when he was trying out that
[00:23:46] Dawnbreaker, Underlord, was also another one. Yeah, Underlord is definitely his type of hero.
[00:23:52] Dawn, I'm not sure. Do you want to count the Ursa that he brought out? You want to count the Magnus?
[00:23:57] Those are like, you know, you want to come the slot the off-lane slot the the side piece
[00:24:04] This bonus trick. I'm wrong. Okay. I'm wrong. Okay. He's not a five trick pony, okay?
[00:24:11] He's a Mike. I disrespected the TV. Yeah, no, how dare you?
[00:24:15] I mean, he might be three four in the groups right now, but he's this is still one of the best
[00:24:19] If not the best mass in competitive Dota
[00:24:22] I think we were talking about it yesterday, right up there with collapse and maybe
[00:24:26] be XSS, I think those three are the most notable ones.
[00:24:31] I'll come from Mirana, from Maus, pretty...
[00:24:33] This is very good for Celery.
[00:24:35] I think this is the type of hero you want him to be playing.
[00:24:40] Push out Deadlan, farm gold, get team items.
[00:24:43] He's going to want to buy...
[00:24:44] Ah, what do you want the most, this game?
[00:24:47] Grease is like, you lose a lot of value because of A, so definitely something like a pipe.
[00:24:52] Pipe would be good.
[00:24:53] I mean, you know Glimmer is gonna be nice right if you can't fight the fight.
[00:24:56] I don't Glimmer. What the hell, Mirana buying Glimmer.
[00:25:00] It's kind of, I mean...
[00:25:01] It's sad to buy Glimmer on Mirana.
[00:25:03] It's the barrier brother for the AA ice classes and I come hard.
[00:25:06] I don't know, it's just sad, you know.
[00:25:08] I get it.
[00:25:09] Okay.
[00:25:10] Dragon Knight, that's a classic Southeast Asia combo if you've ever seen one.
[00:25:14] Dragon Knight and Mirana.
[00:25:15] This could be the safe lane duo actually.
[00:25:18] If they're running with Huskar mid.
[00:25:20] Yeah, it should be.
[00:25:21] Obviously everything can still change but it's going to be their mid and carry heals.
[00:25:26] So you want to pick something that can lane into Timber, I'm sorry not Timber, Husker
[00:25:30] and DK.
[00:25:31] It's really funny because when you look at the mouse draft right, I'm like if you
[00:25:37] switch the team logos I'm like yeah that still makes sense.
[00:25:40] This is such a Falcons line up right, the Mirana or like Snake King, that's classic
[00:25:45] for him.
[00:25:46] You are figuring what to pick on Creed here.
[00:25:50] I think like probably hoodwing for the break mechanic here.
[00:25:54] And it's DK and Husker.
[00:25:56] Yeah, he's loved that hoodwing.
[00:25:57] Yeah, that's probably something they want to go for.
[00:25:59] A lot of damage with the AA as well.
[00:26:02] So hoodwing plus what's Skitter here?
[00:26:05] What's Skitter gonna play?
[00:26:06] That stun, what's stun? Sven?
[00:26:09] Sven misses DK, Husker, does that feel good though?
[00:26:12] I guess you got physical damage to cut through him, god.
[00:26:16] I don't know it needs to be a man here if it's not picking stone it's gonna be
[00:26:23] some also yeah also still available there's also the Sven that he brought
[00:26:29] out the other day he's actually paid spent twice I think he'll play spend oh
[00:26:33] no he's going beast actually isn't this just the malrin beast it could be just
[00:26:37] the malrin base yeah you're right kind of feel like this beast is nice here on
[00:26:41] the 17 because it can do well into the DK and it can also be fine into
[00:26:46] I feel like it's the one rare mid laner that can keep his distance, still get good farm and then you rely on the stacks later on.
[00:26:52] Even if the Huskars tries to pressure you behind the tower, one TP in from Goodwing or AA and you could be toast.
[00:26:57] So I really love this response here from Falcons and it does.
[00:27:00] If you cannot win the mid lane as Huskar, you just go to the safe lane.
[00:27:03] So no matter what, you're guaranteed to win one lane.
[00:27:06] Yeah, okay, but then regardless, I feel like the Mars will still get a decent amount of space because of the Goodwing.
[00:27:13] I think over the storm instead, so...
[00:27:17] What the hell is going on?
[00:27:19] The pieces are coming together a little bit, right?
[00:27:21] What's off-lane?
[00:27:23] I want to say it's Carrie, Carrie Haska just because of what you said.
[00:27:27] And also, between the three mouse calls,
[00:27:30] the stylist is the one who plays this Haska the most.
[00:27:33] Yeah, that's true.
[00:27:37] So what are we thinking? What's with this storm?
[00:27:39] Is it that they think it can deal with the beast mid somehow or they think yeah, that's not enough catch or it's good in the lane
[00:27:46] And it gives them catch because they only have DK's son
[00:27:49] So it's really good against the a and who wing it's like an anti-sub pig your supports cannot really deal with it
[00:27:54] So can I catch him you need the Mars to buy use to catch him?
[00:27:59] It's the use very bad this game or what do you think a mile would have got into it anyway?
[00:28:03] Not exactly. I think it's pretty good. You can dodge the life break. It's useful
[00:28:08] it's always gonna be a useful item this game and what is Yamage going to play
[00:28:15] with Mirana normally you need some kind of setup here there's no SD no task it's
[00:28:21] not TAS it's not tiny it's gonna play some range here we haven't really been
[00:28:28] very convinced when we saw his ringmaster yesterday to be fair the
[00:28:33] The opponent's mouse were playing against were really good at picking them off, but that's still besides the point.
[00:28:43] If you're talking about sub, the only other pause for them can set up for arrows, maybe something like shaman.
[00:28:50] You need a pause for that set up for arrow? I mean it's nice but is it necessary?
[00:28:54] It's nice to have but I don't think it's necessary.
[00:28:57] you saw how important it was when your two subs move together you can actually
[00:29:02] kill heroes together you know that is actually a very very high value thing to
[00:29:07] have in the in the game you think lago is unpickable into AA yeah it's not really
[00:29:13] that good into AA. The other setup is like something like naga or elder titan
[00:29:18] you know those are like not very conventional heroes for the situation
[00:29:22] here but are you looking for a save for a set up like because right now there are
[00:29:28] two ways to do it I did it both I mean a save is definitely also good okay I got
[00:29:32] an OD position for lock it in right now that's not an OD that's a tight hunter
[00:29:39] what the hell is going on the Huskers the support I think because of the air he
[00:29:46] get countered by air I think but who's playing the Husker I mean it has to be
[00:29:50] has to be damage right it tell me celery is gonna show us a pause 5 hasuka
[00:29:57] yeah no king jungles yeah yeah I know king jungles well maybe you can prove
[00:30:02] as well maybe it can show us he's just the Dutch king jungles we'll see but the
[00:30:08] tight hunter is excellent into this lineup right a pipe builder but out comes
[00:30:12] the Ursa a Skeeter classic here really good in the lane into this tight hunter
[00:30:17] I
[00:30:19] Have a really nice pace with their draft, but I don't know what kind of game plan
[00:30:24] Your post wife huskies really gonna have because it is actually going to be mr.
[00:30:29] Celery who's gonna pilot the huskies against the best huskies team in professional Dota
[00:30:37] The audacity of Celery
[00:30:41] That's crazy actually trying to show the huskies because you should play huskies on postpies
[00:30:46] Yeah, snicking. You better start taking some notes. You got a draft there. You like more winter?
[00:30:54] Well, I like the normal draft, you know.
[00:30:59] That's valid. I guess, Maus, we talked about them having some struggles.
[00:31:03] This is a curve ball and a half to throw Falcons, although
[00:31:06] I'm not really sure whether it's one that Falcons can't deal with. Like you said,
[00:31:10] they are
[00:31:11] Intimately familiar with this Dragonite pick with this Hasuka. Maybe that's why mouse are switching it up
[00:31:16] You might have played mid Hasuka you might have played pause 3 Hasuka
[00:31:20] But you've never seen it run on pause 5 and that's kind of what mouse are relying on to surprise Falcons
[00:31:27] The broadcast game plan is pretty clear, right? What's the plan for mouse?
[00:31:31] Win your lanes if they don't win your lanes, I think it's gonna be very very difficult to play their heroes
[00:31:37] They don't really work together well, like the synergy is like, I'm sure you have the
[00:31:42] DK stun or the Storm pull into Arrow, but the DK stun is probably the most reliable one.
[00:31:48] But outside of that, what do you actually do in the game?
[00:31:51] Your heroes do not really interact much with one another.
[00:31:54] Like Hasuka and Mirana as your supporter, they don't do anything together, you know.
[00:31:57] They just, I think they'll be split up across the map, they'll be just trying to do their
[00:32:01] own thing.
[00:32:02] Break smokes, farm, I think mostly farm.
[00:32:04] As a Husker support you need to farm and get your items so you are just another call.
[00:32:09] So Mirana has to do all the supporting duties on her own and the only person that she will
[00:32:14] move with is the DK.
[00:32:17] The DK is going to carry, he can move like maybe once, maybe twice but not all the time.
[00:32:22] Is it not possible for you to maybe try and play with the storm on the Mirana like jumping
[00:32:27] and evalting that to the era?
[00:32:28] It's not reliable at every time you know, I think sometimes you can do it but it depends
[00:32:33] on the situation if it's in the middle of the wave that's creeps around the target then how you know
[00:32:38] what's Yamirana gonna do you have to leap in, star stone clear the phase and then arrow it's
[00:32:43] complicated you know absolutely they have put together a bit of a curious one on Maus and
[00:32:50] it's an interesting time to do so because they are currently two five on the leaderboard on the
[00:32:55] standings and uh yeah they kind of need to win the next few games Maus they've managed to make it
[00:33:02] to the land stage of the previous lands but Malrin's gonna walk up straight to the high ground well
[00:33:08] that's a nice little gift to start things off with and would you look at that mid one gets the kill
[00:33:15] that's the problem with doing that without smoking you know you have no idea what you're
[00:33:21] walking up into okay so wait who got the first blood it was oh it was mid one got okay this is
[00:33:28] very very good news if your mouse friends. Talk about how important this is in terms of the
[00:33:35] overall day for them. They need to basically go lossless if they want to even compete.
[00:33:47] Winter we've worked together long enough for you to know that maybe questioning vocabulary is not
[00:33:55] I can assure you. I can assure you.
[00:33:57] But we're going to start things off here. Nothing crazy as you can see.
[00:34:01] Miles 11th seed right now out of the 12 teams, but Falcons in a position that maybe the less attentive fans will not expect.
[00:34:11] You're talking about your TI winners after all. And if you're the type of Dota 2 fan that only watches the game,
[00:34:16] Maybe the less attentive fans will not expect, you're talking about your TI winners after all, and if you're the type of Dota 2 fan that only watches the tier 1 tournaments, the major lands and whatnot, then you might be thinking, oh, how did Falcons get to this point?
[00:34:31] One day the TI winners, one day looking so good, but a couple of online tournaments, a couple of qualifiers that have looked okay, but just not quite at their usual power level.
[00:34:42] A lot of pressure being put out by Yamage with this Arrow level 1, he's just laying the damage into Skeeter.
[00:34:53] And here's the normal Facet, Starstrap. Instead of the good Facet yesterday, we saw a couple of Miranas take that Facet.
[00:35:00] I worked out for them too, I mean, I can understand, in some games there was a clear purpose, you know.
[00:35:07] Especially when you're in the sun, it's fine.
[00:35:11] And this game you're not really setting up for anything.
[00:35:15] You're playing for your own game, you're farming your own items, you're farming a lot of kiting
[00:35:23] items, you're a 4 star, maybe you'lls.
[00:35:29] Maybe the Glimmer like you.
[00:35:31] Yeah, Glimmer is the best item a support player can get, you know.
[00:35:35] Yeah, I've heard you say that for sure.
[00:35:39] I just hate that item so much.
[00:35:44] It's so handy, it's cheap, you know it.
[00:35:47] It gets you out of a lot of sticky situations.
[00:35:51] These core players love to fill their inventory with
[00:35:54] additional branches here, lotuses there,
[00:35:57] a blood grenade there, and it's never gonna be dust.
[00:36:00] Never gonna be dust.
[00:36:02] Yeah, look at Sally having so much fun.
[00:36:04] to god that's on position five
[00:36:08] that's why i call the ogre magi level one soul ring build
[00:36:11] then you wish you can do that every game
[00:36:14] hey hasuka you definitely have an excuse to do it
[00:36:17] okay i'm gonna be real with you winter i don't know what kind of sick freak
[00:36:21] you are but i've never thought to myself you know what would be fun hasuka pause
[00:36:25] fight
[00:36:28] even like you throw burning spears at people and then
[00:36:32] You're zoning the off laner out, and lane.
[00:36:36] You're happy?
[00:36:36] Well, the off laner in question is currently 14-1, so I don't know how much zoning you're doing.
[00:36:40] My happiness is built on the other player's misery, you know?
[00:36:44] Wow.
[00:36:47] You're playing some undying as zoning the off laner out.
[00:36:51] I get it, but like right now, Amar is still standing in the middle of lane.
[00:36:54] In fact, Falcons, they are looking pretty healthy all things considered in these early stages.
[00:36:59] Not able to contest the Lotus though, meanwhile mid lane,
[00:37:02] Pressure on to mid one, Malrin, he's trying for a dive, he's diving, you need a de-aggro,
[00:37:06] try for the root with the access, it's not going to be enough.
[00:37:10] Malrin, not really sure what that was about, I don't even think damage needed to TP in, yeah.
[00:37:18] Holy crap, that was uh, that was insane.
[00:37:20] I've seen a lot of Beastmaster players do that, you know, when you're level 4.
[00:37:24] They have some power spikes and you think like you can kill the enemy mid laner.
[00:37:29] I don't know, that was a very, very foolish attempt.
[00:37:34] I feel like Mal'Reen is typically a player we see once he gets his signature heroes,
[00:37:40] he just dominates the mid lane, he knows these matchups so well, but in that particular
[00:37:44] moment faltering against mid one, not only giving him first blood, the second galvanized
[00:37:48] stack as well for this Storm Spirit.
[00:37:51] We were worried that this Mirana might not have a partner to play through, but if mid
[00:37:54] one is having a start like this, then Storm is going to be a big problem.
[00:37:58] He's he's definitely not really in the right zone, you know, Maorin. The way he faked the first time as well before the game started
[00:38:05] There was already a very uncanny realistic move, right? You run up the ramp without a smoke, you die
[00:38:10] And then that was another one, you know, diving when he wasn't even close for him to all in expecting no one to TP in
[00:38:17] Authorised keeping Celery up and running, big burst of healing, two levels in that berserkers blood already
[00:38:22] I actually didn't expect the foodling to do so well. I'm going to ask her, who is actually...
[00:38:26] All right. Yeah, I mean she gets a kill but snaking both supports rejoice. Oh, yes, the cause of dying in the lane
[00:38:32] I get to farm. I
[00:38:34] Don't think speed is gonna be very happy about that dropping first
[00:38:38] Not the cause but the supports are happy and maybe Falcon still waking up a little bit
[00:38:43] It's looked somewhat shaky for them in these first five minutes
[00:38:47] It kills from Mal Ring. I'm ours doing well. I'm on great
[00:38:52] I think it is actually doing a phenomenal job zoning the Husk out.
[00:38:57] I think that is the main reason.
[00:38:59] Mid lane, Mal'Rean going for it again despite the two kills.
[00:39:02] Mal'Rean will get it done, a bounce back for him in the mid lane and the tips come through.
[00:39:06] Wait, how do I see level 6 first?
[00:39:08] Storm has 5, D nice.
[00:39:10] Yeah, but beast has 10 more CS than mid one somehow.
[00:39:15] Dude, that is actually crazy.
[00:39:18] That's a little bit illegal, I'll be honest.
[00:39:20] How's he doing that? How did... Okay, a Malrin's just back into the game with that level 6 easy kill.
[00:39:26] Alright then, I fully expected him to be tilted out of his mind and do something insane again but then he gets a solo kill on the storm.
[00:39:33] Nah, you see that's the tricky thing about Falcons because some other top teams, you get in their head, they start to tilt a little bit and then you're like, okay we got them, they're not gonna bounce back.
[00:39:44] Falcons on the other hand, you try and tilt Malrin and Amar, they're gonna come back at you with a vengeance. That's exactly what we see there.
[00:39:51] Minute 6 runes, Crit gonna start moving in while mid one doesn't really have support.
[00:39:56] Gonna be a 50-50 and mid one will win that one out. So a lot of nice things going the way of this storm in this early game apart from that total kill obviously but he's still doing okay.
[00:40:07] He's got to have to influence the silence here. I think he needs to come and get this
[00:40:17] mass. Mass is actually having too good of a game here. He needs to come down here and
[00:40:23] shut him down. Maybe he can move over for the shrines. But before the shrines, he can
[00:40:29] try to see if he has an opening to kill the mass. He's definitely in position. He's behind
[00:40:34] I'm not at the moment, but you have a post five Oscar that doesn't really offer much, you know, he's just jungling. He's just a Chen right now, you know.
[00:40:47] I mean, maybe the secret sauce is celery being on a jungle hero, no matter what.
[00:40:52] No more Venos allowed and she's not in the matter. So why not just why is Venom not allowed?
[00:40:59] I mean, he's just not very good hero now, isn't he?
[00:41:01] If you're trying to look for a good hero and you're trying to take the box also being a
[00:41:09] good hero that's being able to jungle, there's not many, you know, you already eliminated
[00:41:12] most of the heroes in the pool.
[00:41:15] You need to give it a little bit more room, you know, a little bit more leeway so he can
[00:41:18] find a hero to pick.
[00:41:20] Door?
[00:41:21] Door?
[00:41:22] Asuka?
[00:41:23] Asuka
[00:41:25] Cleaner walked in randomly just telling them to leave
[00:41:31] I'm sure the cameras, they're telling the truth
[00:41:38] Marvel get caught nice rotation on the haste room from mid one
[00:41:42] Yeah, perfect. Feel like they must have seen him pick up that room
[00:41:47] So I'm a bit confused. There's nothing they can do about it
[00:41:49] Because at this point of the game, you can't just sit behind, so if the mid laner gets a haste rune, or whatever power rune he is, you can't just sit back and not do anything, you know?
[00:41:58] When there's a huge wave in the middle of the lane, unless your mid laner can TP down and...
[00:42:05] Okay, he just came over, he TP down and killed the DK.
[00:42:10] Nice arrow, stood up there, boom and yammage, continuing to bully this Ursa.
[00:42:15] He's not having the time of day.
[00:42:17] I mean, Ursa AA is not a very strong lane.
[00:42:21] They picked the Ursa to counter the Tide in the lane, but because of the AA, he can't really do much in the lane.
[00:42:31] That's why when I remember when I said the 9 pick AA, I said this is a support that you kind of need to pick a stun to enable the lane.
[00:42:38] I mean, this is why, you know, you pick Ursa, that's a counter matchup against the Tide, but because the lane is kind of shitty, then it doesn't really work out too, you know.
[00:42:46] You know.
[00:42:47] Yeah.
[00:42:48] Not really having the best of times and honestly, Yamich, I think he's also doing a great job,
[00:42:52] right?
[00:42:53] In the early game, he landed like two or three arrows in the lane itself, like point blank
[00:42:57] just to put that damage out and he understands that the Ursa, if he's low, he can't really
[00:43:02] contest.
[00:43:03] He's the body that snaking is fully relying on.
[00:43:05] So even if snaking is full HP, it's not like snaking can stand up.
[00:43:09] Yeah, this is looking rough, you know.
[00:43:15] My mom, because of that one death, that kind of set him back quite a bit and Maureen is
[00:43:19] the only core of the Arc of Fire not having a pretty good game.
[00:43:23] Both the mid laners are actually fairly rich.
[00:43:25] But I think the tide is going to be like a huge defense faker and mid one, he's going
[00:43:32] to get another kill, another stack, just completely bullying this A, you know.
[00:43:36] It's a nightmare for A to play into Storm.
[00:43:39] There's nothing you can do to a storm if the storm has to start like this.
[00:43:43] And then you look on the other side, right?
[00:43:45] Malrin, yeah, he's still looking strong,
[00:43:47] but he can really only kill the heroes using the raw.
[00:43:50] Meanwhile, mid one, any time he's got mana,
[00:43:52] supports are gonna drop.
[00:43:54] So the capability for Maus to make plays on the map,
[00:43:59] definitely a scary factor that Falcons
[00:44:02] have to respect at the moment,
[00:44:04] especially since all three of their calls,
[00:44:05] we didn't mention this just yet.
[00:44:07] A bit greedy, right?
[00:44:08] Like, Malrin, he's gonna wanna farm,
[00:44:10] your Ursa needs his Fury,
[00:44:12] And Maaz never really wants to move before his first blink or maybe even a use.
[00:44:16] So what's the play?
[00:44:18] What can Skeeter and, sorry, what can Snake King and Great really do on the map by themselves?
[00:44:24] Yeah, maybe this is why they picked the Tide.
[00:44:26] They know that by picking the Tide, it kind of blocks out all the stun heroes that I mentioned
[00:44:30] earlier.
[00:44:31] So it kind of puts Falcon in a position where they feel like they have to pick something
[00:44:34] like Ursa.
[00:44:35] So the whole draft is so slow, you know.
[00:44:37] And then now you lose your lane as Ursa.
[00:44:39] So you get to a point where you just need to jungle and you have to recover.
[00:44:44] And so much you can offer to your team, you know, and AI kind of needs someone to do shit, you know.
[00:44:48] And beast can only do it once every 70 seconds, you know.
[00:44:51] He wants to hit ancients and Mars didn't really exactly get like a super good start.
[00:44:55] He has a okay start.
[00:44:57] But I expect the game to start to pick up the pace.
[00:45:00] Okay, they're gonna TP bot with the storm.
[00:45:02] Right, the first master finds him, Amar is in trouble, he is level 6, has to throw the
[00:45:10] arena out, was set up for the AA, Ice Blast mid one, gets tagged by it, not by the damage,
[00:45:15] still should take out, try to dodge it, but won't be able to do so, Amar doing a good
[00:45:20] job, eyes on the prize there, knew that he would survive and gets himself a return kill.
[00:45:24] Right, this is precisely what Falcons need to do, the AA has to follow the arena and
[00:45:30] he has to follow the road. Actually, not even just him, you know, even the hoodling, both of them.
[00:45:34] The moment they have level 6, they just need to play with this too.
[00:45:36] For Skeeter is the hard carry in this game. He is not going to be seen for a very long time.
[00:45:43] There needs to head into the jungle and recover quietly.
[00:45:46] You can see Falcons, they're following that game plan that you set up.
[00:45:49] One support tagged onto one of the cores.
[00:45:51] Whoever gets rowed is going to get sharp shot.
[00:45:53] In the same situation there, Arena followed up by the Ice Blast.
[00:45:56] Seems like Falcons are confident that these two men death squads will be able to respond to whatever action comes their way
[00:46:02] And at least for now, they're right another smoke up the two supports leaving the charge trying to find crystal is but
[00:46:09] Just narrowly missing enough
[00:46:12] Maybe they do a second question the ice
[00:46:17] They are going to amp that magic damage up and blow up the dragon. I was so easy
[00:46:22] That was not easy.
[00:46:23] That looked simple.
[00:46:24] And this DK, this Thai, they are going to be super vulnerable to this.
[00:46:30] At least, you know, once they get a pipe out on a Thai, at least he'll be somewhat
[00:46:34] survival, but if they catch DK alone like this every single Thai, he's going to die
[00:46:38] every time.
[00:46:39] Not to mention the Sharpshooter is going to break that blubber, right?
[00:46:42] So you don't get that automatic dispel on the Thai hunter, especially if you somehow
[00:46:47] chain it up, right?
[00:46:48] Because Blubber works in mysterious ways so it might just dispel on the proc and then
[00:46:54] your break comes after.
[00:46:56] I'm not too sure.
[00:46:57] We'll have to see how it plays out for now.
[00:47:00] It's been a bit back and forth in this early game.
[00:47:02] A boom will get caught.
[00:47:03] Sharp Shooter's available.
[00:47:04] There's the break that we were talking about, forcing the Ravage.
[00:47:06] Boom, he's still gonna get caught.
[00:47:08] I'm not sure what that was about.
[00:47:10] What was he trying to do there?
[00:47:12] A lot here's a lot.
[00:47:13] He didn't get caught.
[00:47:14] for mid one to take down skater and he will be successful again the earth side getting caught
[00:47:19] the one return kill not worth it at all mid one gets out with his life but they lose the support
[00:47:24] for it along with boom in the mid lane okay so i think he was just trying to he was trying to
[00:47:32] mislead the openers in the thinking he wasn't alone so they could gank the other side of the
[00:47:36] man that's why his play looks so weird on the tie yeah well the only person he was he was misleading
[00:47:42] is himself and maybe Yamage there who had to sacrifice his life for that kill.
[00:47:46] Still, they're doing a good job slowing up the URSA and we just saw that the support
[00:47:50] Hasuka has gone first item, Pavees, into the Solar Crest which is interesting to say the
[00:47:57] least.
[00:47:58] I thought that Celery was just going to go into the Armlet but I guess you don't feel
[00:48:01] comfortable doing that into A.
[00:48:02] No, you don't buy Armlet, you see.
[00:48:05] Bot lane, Amar again trying to survive will drop the arena, get the spear out.
[00:48:10] The last bit of damage, blind by the wall, he's alive!
[00:48:13] And now Boom will drop again Skeeter, coming through to get some revenge for that tough
[00:48:17] laning stage.
[00:48:18] Yamage hiding under the cover of the Moonlight Channel, will still get clicked down, spotted
[00:48:22] out by the Centuries.
[00:48:23] And again, Maus try and make a move that they simply do not have the firepower for.
[00:48:28] Yeah, those double braces are coming in very very handy for Amma.
[00:48:34] He's going to complete his yields off of that mishap, you know, from Maus.
[00:48:39] very important item like I mentioned against the som is going to give them a
[00:48:42] reliable way of catching made one once you have to use every time you have ice
[00:48:47] bars it's a it's a easy kill you don't even need arena one use spear ice boss
[00:48:52] every single time that's not gonna die starting to see how easy it is for
[00:48:57] falcons to make these kills happen on the flip side like you mentioned the
[00:49:01] dragon knight is not going to participate for a long time but that's your
[00:49:04] only major reliable stun the setups are just not as clean he's buying armlets too okay
[00:49:11] i don't know if i like it i mean it's it's it's a very good farming item but against a kind of
[00:49:15] like it's dead weight networked in the team fight you know against the a actually in this mid one
[00:49:21] dodgers away from the ice blast as a century spotting melvin out okay that's a century right
[00:49:25] i'm like what the hell he he is boiling away once the windmill was about to fly down to the
[00:49:29] the mouse cam and check with one's PC personally. Unfortunately for Winter, there was a blind spot
[00:49:36] in the middle of his screen. He did not see that century. I just needed a fiend's gate to
[00:49:42] connect me over there. Yeah. He was ready to investigate. Winter had the sort of magnifying
[00:49:49] glass on. You know, he was ready to question everything. Yeah, I was ready to get up my
[00:49:55] magnifying glass and be my Sherlock Holmes. It's the Malaysian Spidey senses, you know, you were
[00:50:02] sort of transmitting that message to him through the Malaysian neural network. He heard that.
[00:50:07] Anyway, Boom is going to get his pipe soon. Anyway, yeah, boom with the pipe, that's going to be a
[00:50:13] big big timing but I wonder whether it's going to be enough because right now we're seeing Mouse
[00:50:17] clearly struggle with setting up moves on the map. Everything they've tried so far and I mean everything
[00:50:22] other than to kill onto Skeeter has not worked out in their favor.
[00:50:31] I mean the thing with what they are doing is I feel like they need to ensure that
[00:50:36] they have the numbers advantage or at least they're not taking too big of a risk right.
[00:50:39] The last couple of moves the tide was in a very very compromising position in front of the tower
[00:50:43] they were going for kills and he was baiting in front of the tower you know.
[00:50:46] Okay, meanwhile, Craig gets a kill, a random kill onto Brianna somewhere.
[00:50:55] In the mid lane, I think he was sort of sticking around to try and clear the dead wave.
[00:50:58] Yeah, he was rocked.
[00:50:59] Dead lane, sorry.
[00:51:00] Dead lane, dead wave, we get it.
[00:51:03] Yeah, thank you.
[00:51:04] Don't worry Mike.
[00:51:05] Thank you.
[00:51:06] At Falcons, we're trying for a move deep into the river area in the bot lane.
[00:51:10] They narrowly missed mid one who once again through the Malaysian Neural Network got a
[00:51:14] sense that something was wrong.
[00:51:17] I'm not once to find the song the most right now he doesn't want to kill the Husker.
[00:51:25] He's like, no, not this guy doesn't care about it.
[00:51:28] It's just not valuable at all and the Husker, even though he is top of the network amongst
[00:51:34] the supports by a small margin, just haven't really felt his impact this game.
[00:51:39] Not sure whether that smoke was spotted out by a ward.
[00:51:42] might have been. The lines are drawn, Maureen's already retreating towards the
[00:51:47] steer too. They board coverage spotting up his boss.
[00:51:51] If they find Maureen that would be insane. Yeah right before his DKB as well.
[00:51:55] See him hiding behind the trees? I need a ward, they don't have a ward.
[00:51:58] I mean you try to line up an arrow that's gonna be way too obvious Maureen.
[00:52:01] He's just playing around with them. There's no observed wards to give the vision.
[00:52:06] He was behind the trees there so that was a very very difficult situation for
[00:52:09] or mouse to commit on to.
[00:52:15] And Falcons suspect a roar shepherding that's wearing an ice blast over her.
[00:52:20] Maybe it's still gonna happen.
[00:52:21] It seems that way.
[00:52:23] Nause.
[00:52:24] Coming through to sweep out the top jungle area and take control of this part of the
[00:52:29] map.
[00:52:30] Falcons they've established themselves on the other side.
[00:52:32] This is dangerous.
[00:52:33] I think they should just come right over.
[00:52:35] It's not a quick roar shot.
[00:52:36] It's gonna take some time.
[00:52:39] I think Maus might run into a lot of complications here.
[00:52:42] I mean, Crystallis is literally 500 HP right now.
[00:52:45] This is so risky.
[00:52:46] One spell, and they're in trouble.
[00:52:49] Kain Rune, set up on the storm.
[00:52:50] Amar's ready, gets arrowed himself, though.
[00:52:53] Couldn't put the arena up.
[00:52:54] Big Bushwack, the Ravish, to keep them at bay.
[00:52:56] Amar, he's going to get pulled in, but he's still surviving.
[00:52:59] Gets the arena out.
[00:53:00] There's the role with the AD Rune,
[00:53:01] and Malwain revealing the BKB.
[00:53:03] They might have got themselves the ages,
[00:53:05] but they'll lose three for it.
[00:53:07] and Kristalln is trying to fight on the high ground, trying to salvage this fight for his team.
[00:53:12] That's not much that he can do.
[00:53:13] He could have just walked away, but he chooses to try and take down the pesky squirrel
[00:53:19] and he'll pay for it with his life.
[00:53:21] That's not the reason of my why.
[00:53:22] Why did they do the rush after they saw the ice bus keep clipping them?
[00:53:26] Why?
[00:53:28] Like, there was so little chance that they would kill the rush
[00:53:34] and get out before the enemy arrives in the scene, you know?
[00:53:37] Maybe think that Falcons would not be able to connect, but that is far from the case.
[00:53:42] The entire game plan of this support has got to get if they didn't have a tier 1 mid,
[00:53:48] maybe I could accept that explanation.
[00:53:52] But the enemy has a tier 1 mid and you expect them not to react.
[00:53:56] Well to be fair to them, and this is I know Coping at this point, made one able to escape,
[00:54:02] But they did have complete map coverage of the enemy jungle.
[00:54:07] So are they going to try to kill the storm?
[00:54:10] Sorry.
[00:54:11] Where he gated and he shot bot from bot?
[00:54:15] He's trying to get the other guy.
[00:54:18] I thought he was like trying to mind game or something.
[00:54:22] Trying to shoot the eyes of us from the bottom area to kill the storm.
[00:54:26] That would be kind of crazy.
[00:54:27] That's like almost like a 360 no-stope situation.
[00:54:30] But yeah, not gonna happen, and sort of back to what I was saying, you can see right, there's so much ward coverage, and that's typically the path you might expect Falcons to take to contest.
[00:54:42] Instead, they were running directly up from the bottom jungle through the river, so that was the one path, unfortunately, that mouse had not covered.
[00:54:49] I can kinda understand why they did it, maybe they felt like they needed to secure that objective, but instead, they find themselves 4 dead, 5k behind, and Falcons, everything going according to plan.
[00:54:59] Celery is going to be caught here. Easy spear. Ice blast. Not available but don't think it's
[00:55:06] needed. Oh no. This is cruel. That's a bit of bullying right there. Crystallis will jump
[00:55:11] on forward. They're trying to take this fight. Amar just stands his ground, throws the arena
[00:55:15] out and yeah, I mean once you're set up, the arrow's not going to connect. Don't have a
[00:55:21] ravage available just yet. Finally comes off cooldown but the roar immediately barely
[00:55:27] scratchers of mine boom we'll just get chopped down very very strange decision
[00:55:32] making here from miles
[00:55:35] they have no idea what they need to do and their draft like I said right if
[00:55:42] they don't snowball in the early game a lot their heroes don't really interact
[00:55:46] with each other very well and this is what is happening right now like people
[00:55:50] are just it's not natural to play like this you know they need to fight but they
[00:55:54] They can't interact well with their heroes, there's no synergy.
[00:55:57] Yeah, and then you look on the flipside Falcons,
[00:55:59] any two of their heroes can make a kill happen.
[00:56:02] You're reaching the point where Skeeter, despite his really rough early game,
[00:56:05] he's managed to stabilize, he's managed to get towards his items, Blink Dagger available,
[00:56:09] he can join some of these fights.
[00:56:11] Haven't really seen mid one be able to get that same traction that he did, right?
[00:56:16] In the early game, he was coming through with some ganks, but...
[00:56:18] Skeeter has so much room to farm because the other four players are just killing everything on the map.
[00:56:22] Yeah.
[00:56:24] 5-1 and 10, what a score line from the snaking AA.
[00:56:28] It is precisely why when you pick Storm, you don't want to have Mirana as your support.
[00:56:33] They don't really interact very well, and Storm usually you prefer something that amps your damage.
[00:56:37] Dargo, Skyraff, AA, hookwing, these type of heroes.
[00:56:42] Like with Mirana, it can be very, very outward.
[00:56:46] Mirana prefers something like Ember Spirit a lot more.
[00:56:49] This is weird right because you mentioned all of those heroes not really the
[00:56:53] Yammage hero pool. We saw him try to bring out the Skyrefmage and it was you
[00:56:59] know not very convincing much like the play that I have right now. They got hit by a patch
[00:57:04] where a lot of their good heroes are not the best heroes.
[00:57:10] I think they're trying to put a ban on everything you know. I mean I can kind of
[00:57:14] understand their situation but at the same time it's just it's just not working
[00:57:18] You know they are playing heroes that are not optimal for their players. They are trying to
[00:57:23] You know
[00:57:25] Dance around the delicate line of drafting something comfortable and optimal for the meta
[00:57:30] You know, it's it's very difficult if your players don't have the suitable hero pool
[00:57:35] and
[00:57:36] Even though Falcons they have a mix of the meta and some of their favorites. It's clear one thing
[00:57:43] They are so comfortable with these earliest refresher up
[00:57:46] I've seen of these ones so like what the hell 22 minutes he has a refresher that's insane. Yeah, we're gonna have to run the sets on that
[00:57:53] That's crazy
[00:57:56] That's almost on par with the seven
[00:57:59] In the early game remember he walked up
[00:58:02] To the high ground before the creep spawn and he died first bird and then in the lane
[00:58:07] He fed another kill because he was blood thirsty trying to kill the song and yet at 22 minutes
[00:58:13] he has a refresher BKB and Agademes top of the network.
[00:58:18] We talk about Malrin struggling a little bit. This game is far from that.
[00:58:23] Any thoughts of him potentially tilting or sort of being off his game completely out the window
[00:58:30] now. He is scaling up like a monster. Yeah, he could just overplay his hand in the early end.
[00:58:35] That's a little bit of like a morning jitters, you know, you wake up, you're not ready to play.
[00:58:40] your coach tells you, make sure you play a wall out game and
[00:58:44] unfortunately for him today, maybe this is his first game of the day and you see
[00:58:47] all these morning jitters. I get it right, it's the third day of
[00:58:52] all these best of ones, it can really start to wear on you.
[00:58:56] There's a lot going on, it's hard to keep up.
[00:58:59] Yeah that's the life about being a pro player right, you always have to be at
[00:59:03] your best. Every game could matter you know.
[00:59:06] Exactly.
[00:59:10] Contrary to what many people who are casual watchers or
[00:59:15] Chathers believe you know sometimes you think that like oh
[00:59:19] Maybe they're not taking this game so seriously. I assure you that
[00:59:24] What that is never the case. Yeah, definitely taking this game seriously
[00:59:28] Yeah, I mean I think people just sometimes see them play or make questionable decisions, right?
[00:59:32] And then it's so easy to default to all
[00:59:34] You know they don't care about this game.
[00:59:36] It's working.
[00:59:37] What? He almost solo killed him on the POS5 day.
[00:59:42] TP out, quit.
[00:59:43] You got the spidey sensors? Almost.
[00:59:45] You try that.
[00:59:46] It's not a good site.
[00:59:47] Enemy POS5 almost killing your carry.
[00:59:51] This is why I think getting an armler against A is such a bad idea.
[00:59:59] Gotta be so careful about when you use it.
[01:00:01] I'm not too worried though winter at some point this haska position five will come online
[01:00:13] Unfortunately Mike I got bad news for you that point is not going to come in this game. Okay, okay, well that's harsh. Sorry
[01:00:24] Yeah, he's got a glimmer and a sonar crest right now. You tell me I need to get some coping on sometimes but this is too much
[01:00:31] My bad.
[01:00:32] Maul set up another kill.
[01:00:34] Easy pick off onto Yamage.
[01:00:35] He had himself a decent early game on that Mirana.
[01:00:37] I think he did as much as he could.
[01:00:39] But it goes back to what you were saying, Winter.
[01:00:41] It feels like the Mirana has to do all the supporting.
[01:00:45] And when you're up against a bloodthirsty Falcons,
[01:00:47] light up like this.
[01:00:48] There's only so much you can do.
[01:00:50] Boom's gonna get caught in the mid lane.
[01:00:52] Slowly crawled down.
[01:00:53] But meanwhile, Melry again getting caught off solo.
[01:00:57] So Falcons...
[01:00:58] He's back to the morning Jitter mode.
[01:01:02] Maybe he's just not expecting to die there.
[01:01:04] Thought his team was nearby.
[01:01:05] They're five out of the Verana.
[01:01:06] There's the Ice Blast.
[01:01:07] Crystalis in trouble.
[01:01:08] Will get swiped down.
[01:01:09] Mid one not able to secure any of the backline kills.
[01:01:12] They still have themselves a ravage.
[01:01:13] Waiting for the BKB to wear out on Skidder.
[01:01:15] There's the Yule setup.
[01:01:16] Look for the arrow.
[01:01:17] Find it onto the Ursa.
[01:01:18] But he's jumped away.
[01:01:19] Nice double spear to keep mouse at bay.
[01:01:21] Ursa still being focused down and the tentacles will find him.
[01:01:24] Falcons losing some key heroes and mid one he's activated.
[01:01:27] Looking for Crate under the cover of Glimmer Cape.
[01:01:31] Won't be able to scurry his way out of there, very close, but Falcons.
[01:01:35] Kind of giving over a few kills that didn't really need to happen.
[01:01:39] Now they'll back up for a little bit, wait for the respawns and maybe try again.
[01:01:43] But yeah, didn't press the BKB at all on the Beastmaster.
[01:01:46] Maury is definitely...
[01:01:49] Yeah, he's definitely not on top of this game today, you know.
[01:01:52] Taking a lot of risk, playing very very loosely in the couple of occasions.
[01:01:58] Amar is the one trying to carry the game so hard.
[01:02:01] Yeah, Amar's going crazy on this Amar right now.
[01:02:04] It is signature pick.
[01:02:05] Ice Blastered is mid one still jumping forward for the kill but again, no detection.
[01:02:09] The glimmer cape saves them and Celery's dust comes too late.
[01:02:13] They'll now look towards the Mars but this is a very tanky target
[01:02:15] and now Malwine will press his BKB and his raw.
[01:02:18] Look towards this poor DK nowhere to run, no help on the horizon
[01:02:22] and we'll get killed off another setup, Amar looking for a spear but with the yules, mid one should be able to zip away, quick, catching him on the backline though and this storm is dusted.
[01:02:34] Double ATO's on the supports, proving to be fatal for the storm.
[01:02:40] No BKB, no way of escaping.
[01:02:45] Amar is on fire today, I don't know what they fed him for breakfast but they need to give him that at least a little bit.
[01:02:50] Give him more of that every day. Yeah
[01:02:53] Keep him on that strict diet. You know, I like you actually brought that up the morning routine before the players get into the game
[01:03:00] It's actually so important
[01:03:02] Like you need to get everybody in in shape. Yeah with the same routine everything you don't want them to
[01:03:08] You know do something wake up late and not be ready
[01:03:12] There are things like this matter a lot especially in games where in the group stage where you can sometimes play in your hotel room
[01:03:18] And you can be a little bit more casual some some players they depend to take it easy too much and they play badly the first game
[01:03:24] Yeah, for sure and maybe some of that that we see from Malrin here, but definitely not on my he came ready and he came hungry
[01:03:32] Was to make it to the Malta stage
[01:03:35] Was to get to the playoffs
[01:03:37] That was not a tie-hunter
[01:03:40] I heard Axis worked really well when chopping up a watermelon
[01:03:44] So there you have it, the fresh fruit for falcons as they head towards the Roche pit for some more dessert
[01:03:49] Handi little ages maybe for Malrin maybe for Skateup
[01:03:51] Rochean is dessert
[01:03:54] Oh the cheese, okay, fine
[01:03:56] You need the cheese. There's no cheese. They're calling Rochean a dessert
[01:04:01] Sure, yeah, I mean you were talking about eating a whole bunch of weird shit. Why not Roche?
[01:04:06] Roche is definitely something like a main course, you know a lot of meat a lot of protein
[01:04:10] You know, if humans were in the world of those, I'm sure we'd find a way to serve Roshan on the battle.
[01:04:16] Then look at the ages, they'd be like, we don't want that, someone give me his upper thigh, I want to chop that up, make a fillet.
[01:04:23] Yeah, main course. Not a dessert.
[01:04:28] Dessert usually means he has to be very sweet, you know.
[01:04:33] you know
[01:04:36] Referring to it being after the time of the kill Amar
[01:04:39] Okay, I mean to try and bail out the Beastmaster who gets caught out still able to BKB
[01:04:46] Yeah, sir, why not you know why not why not?
[01:04:51] Whom's gonna get caught as well
[01:04:53] The support Huskar is coming through with his glibber cape that does absolutely nothing
[01:04:59] very cool
[01:05:03] What a bizarre game man, I think both teams are just kinda like, not really being at their best.
[01:05:08] Some of their players are, some of their players not.
[01:05:10] For Miles, I think Storm was kinda trying to carry the game on his own really hard.
[01:05:15] Like the other two calls to try and abdicate that were definitely not on their best game.
[01:05:20] But as far as fans, Beastmaster is the villain, Beastmaster is the hero.
[01:05:26] Yeah, it's kinda weird, it's one of those games where you're back at the top.
[01:05:30] He's showing that game, but he's also saving the game.
[01:05:31] He is 100% saving the game, but if there's anyone who's an MVP, it has to be a Ma.
[01:05:35] This guy's playing out of his mind.
[01:05:37] This is the TI level Ma's that we've come to know and love from this player.
[01:05:41] I mean, it's hero.
[01:05:42] No matter how many times you nerf the hero, I think the concept of the hero is just too
[01:05:46] good.
[01:05:47] Being able to reposition, you're stunned, and then in the teamfight, you block off the
[01:05:52] anime team, you block off certain areas, making it very difficult to come here.
[01:05:56] It's so much less control, yeah.
[01:05:58] That is crazy.
[01:05:59] I can't believe they actually tried to stay out the killing one more time.
[01:06:03] But the guy has DKB, there was no way they could have locked him down.
[01:06:07] Yeah, so it's really close because Boom could have actually pre-ravaged,
[01:06:12] but what Amar did is he speared the DK and then he yields the tie.
[01:06:16] So there was no way that any of the calls could have actually gotten to Malrin.
[01:06:20] Second, he comes back up, pops that DKB, rolls both DK and Stomp, it's just perfect.
[01:06:25] Just saying they should be happy after one kill, you know, there he is.
[01:06:55] They are getting brutalized here. This is not a good showing from them in the slightest.
[01:07:00] They are definitely very confused about how they need to play as a team.
[01:07:04] Especially what they need to draft. I think it's the draft.
[01:07:06] They are trying a lot of things, I want to say, to find what works,
[01:07:10] but everything they put together is just not coming out nicely at the moment.
[01:07:15] No, not at all.
[01:07:16] It's like they're trying to create a new menu because to obtain another Michelin star,
[01:07:21] You need to have some new innovations and everything is not working.
[01:07:27] Are you seeing this? There is no next game to press Ravage.
[01:07:31] God damn it.
[01:07:33] You know sometimes the all chat from Falcons can be a little bit classless but I'll give
[01:07:38] it to him.
[01:07:39] That's true.
[01:07:40] Is there a context to that?
[01:07:41] No, I mean it's just he hasn't seen a Ravage.
[01:07:44] That's convincing because Boom's just standing around not pressing Ravage.
[01:07:47] This is the best of one, right?
[01:07:51] That's a little mean.
[01:07:55] It's understandable.
[01:07:56] I'm not going to lie to you if this tide was in my team, I'd say the same thing.
[01:08:00] I'm pretty sure you would say the same thing.
[01:08:03] You have the nicest percent available.
[01:08:05] Why do you suddenly have...
[01:08:07] Where did this sudden faith in my moral, upstanding, comes from?
[01:08:13] Yeah, that's random.
[01:08:14] Okay, celery.
[01:08:15] saves himself with the glimmer let's go they always complain that i'm shitting on you and today i'm being
[01:08:22] a nice nice person and then i'm like why why are you being nice today you know i'm just suspicious
[01:08:27] you know you come for me why there's always a hidden agenda when i'm nice i'm gonna ask you for
[01:08:34] a favor next week or something because i'm nice to you today the next thing you know i owe you a
[01:08:38] bunch of chicken rice mid one is gonna get caught though falcons continuing to rampage
[01:08:43] Better make sure you get me the right ones, yeah.
[01:08:45] Oh my goodness.
[01:08:46] Okay, well, he's trying to set up but gets found by Crystallis instead.
[01:08:50] Mouse, they're trying to find an opportunity but they just don't have the detection again.
[01:08:55] The glimmers from the supports getting them out of every single situation
[01:08:58] and you've wasted a bit too much time.
[01:09:01] The Falcons' cores have come on over and they've got spears, they've got damage
[01:09:04] and they've got access to cut you down.
[01:09:06] Snake King is wicked sick as Falcons will continue their rampage.
[01:09:11] GG is called and it's true. He did not press ravage. We have not seen the ravages yet.
[01:09:18] Even at the end of this game, he'll get caught up for the sky and
[01:09:21] shamefully put down into the ground. Very, very sad stuff here for the mouse fans, but falcons
[01:09:27] starting their crawl back up in these standings. Day three, very much needed. They have three more
[01:09:34] games to go on both of these teams to try and stabilize and at least secure their spot in the
[01:09:38] in the middle of the pack maybe even try and fight for top 2 who knows how this
[01:09:42] day will go but the madness starts off in a pretty anticlimactic fashion I
[01:09:47] want to say I was hoping to see a bit more of a revitalized mouse
[01:09:50] Huskar support on position 5 that wasn't it yeah I mean that was also the
[01:09:58] leads of that calls I think they also had other problems with the other calls not
[01:10:02] having seen any of the position for Mirana I think it worked well with the
[01:10:06] tight initially in the lane, that's what made Boom fat in the early stages, but after that they just
[01:10:12] didn't really play with the right heroes and then I'm also questioning like Chris Ellis is his
[01:10:16] build right, I think he probably shouldn't have gotten an armlet and then they actually needed the
[01:10:21] DK to be more active with the Mirana, I think the the the tight and the storm should maybe the
[01:10:26] tight should be the one like taking more farm you know getting more towards his aura, timings,
[01:10:31] I felt like he was trying to play for the team too much on the tight and the DK was the one that
[01:10:35] was supposed to play but he didn't show up. So I think they got their roles swapped up this game,
[01:10:40] and then obviously Celery is just going to be a Hasuka jungling. He's not really going to be
[01:10:44] offering much. So the other three heroes, the important heroes, the three calls, if they're
[01:10:49] not creating any kill opportunities with Tamirana, then it means that you're not doing anything on
[01:10:53] the map. I'm so confused because when I think about the support Hasuka, of course there's the
[01:10:58] potential to go back to the jungle and farm up your items, but then you're farming up your items
[01:11:02] being a solar crest glimmer force like that doesn't really feel like it's gonna
[01:11:07] change the complexion of the game at the same time I thought that the support
[01:11:11] Hasuka will be running at enemy heroes maybe using his body as kind of like a
[01:11:15] bait let mid one come in you know he didn't jump on the lane he lost his
[01:11:20] trade against the hook wing you know so like you want the Hasuka on pause 5 to
[01:11:25] win the lane and he's also not winning his lane maybe the matchup is just not
[01:11:29] that easy for because I don't know that matchup but either way we just didn't really feel it in the
[01:11:34] in the whole game they all the first pick this Oscar they tried to swap it around just didn't work
[01:11:40] yeah Amar and Craig definitely pulling their weight in that game and we'll see what happens
[01:11:44] next as we have Liquid versus Yandex after a short break.
[01:13:14] I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to my room and see what I can do.
[01:13:24] I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to my room and see what I can do.
[01:15:34] I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to my room and see what I can do.
[01:15:44] I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to my room and see what I can do.
[01:18:24] We've had no shortage of surprises here in the group stage of Last Land 6.
[01:18:50] But a POS5 Huskar was not on my bingo card, that's what Miles brought out to start their
[01:18:56] day in hopes that it will be able to surprise Falcons.
[01:18:59] But when you bring a Huskar out against Emnone for their Huskar, I don't know, Winter does
[01:19:07] not have a really good plan, but hopefully these upcoming two teams have better strategies
[01:19:12] that await Liquid vs Yandex because sure enough, they're going to need some good strats to
[01:19:17] beat each other.
[01:19:18] two teams are currently in the middle of the pack trying to avoid last chance
[01:19:22] playoff so trying to avoid staying in the middle they still have a good shot for
[01:19:27] maybe taking that second semifinal seed winter. A very important game for both
[01:19:32] teams. It's kind of like a must win game if you want to stay out of the
[01:19:38] bottom area but still looking decent for Liquid 5 and 3 at the moment.
[01:19:43] I mean they haven't been playing their best total even though they are 5 and 3.
[01:19:48] I think some of the games they look very very shaky, at least in the games that we were able to watch.
[01:19:53] So I mean I don't think they're at their best yet you know and it might take a longer time for them to finally
[01:20:00] solve some of their problems. Especially I've been mentioning that the support duo right feels like they have two
[01:20:06] position 4 players and they lack a real pause 5 player that could actually allow and enable the other players.
[01:20:12] I think they need to slowly get to that phase where Tofu eases into that role.
[01:20:18] I think right now he's still caught in between.
[01:20:21] He's like a 4 trying to be a 5 but he's still a 4, you know?
[01:20:24] Yeah, I feel like that's such an interesting perspective to take on it because anyone looking at this team,
[01:20:30] everyone from the fans to the other analysts, the casters, maybe even their opponents,
[01:20:35] they're looking at Ace, they're pointing at the big man right in the middle of your screen the same.
[01:20:38] Some of the moves that he makes don't really add up. They don't really feel like they gel with the team yet
[01:20:44] I think even yesterday in their win against XG. He was playing razor. He went grease first which made sense
[01:20:50] But then he decided to go for Lincoln second item and even though liquid won the game
[01:20:54] It was all nice and everything
[01:20:56] Still didn't really tally right? You're buying a Lincoln so you can stay out on the map by yourself
[01:21:01] Against a spirit breaker and it was blocking nothing else and then you have a grief. So you're playing solo
[01:21:05] you're not really TPing in, you're not really joining a team, of course Liquid
[01:21:09] did win that game off of an excellent Monkey King performance from Mckay so
[01:21:12] hopefully they can carry that momentum, maybe put a bit of stress off of Ace and
[01:21:18] Boxy and Tofu needing to adjust and Nisha and Mckay can just pop off but on
[01:21:22] the other side we also have our fair share of players that can pop off at
[01:21:26] least here you know we talk a little bit about Ace and the support duo of
[01:21:29] Liquid but it's equally important for this team right? Yandex, the big
[01:21:34] superstars for me are always noticed than Saksa.
[01:21:38] Yeah, this is going to be a matchup where they need to really allow notice to get a good start, you know.
[01:21:44] Because they kind of play a little bit greedier in my opinion, like overall as a team, the tree cause a lot, takes a lot more fun.
[01:21:53] And it's down to Saksa to kind of create the space in the early game, like he has to make the right rotations.
[01:21:58] And the main person he needs to enable is notice the man in the middle.
[01:22:01] If you can actually enable him, he's going to be able to give you good teamfights, give you a good space by ganking the other lanes,
[01:22:09] and then I would say that you restore balance in the team, because somebody has to give way.
[01:22:15] If everybody is farming, things are definitely not going to work out for you.
[01:22:19] Yeah, you're hoping to have a lot of space, like an infinite void of some sort,
[01:22:22] much like the hand sign that Watson's doing, shout out Mr. Gojo Satoru.
[01:22:27] Apart from that, Yandex need to make space for the man in the middle. It's fitting that he's there.
[01:22:33] We also had some, I guess, criticism, isn't the right word, but concerns about
[01:22:39] Chira Junia, right? You were talking about how you feel like he is a lot greedier than you'd like him to be.
[01:22:46] And he likes to play the Beastmaster mids. Sometimes it's good, but I think depending on the situation,
[01:22:53] I think there were games where I don't remember which one they had like three farming cause like what rule Luna Beast Master or something
[01:23:00] It's one of the games
[01:23:02] Beastmaster Luna that was so that triple greedy cause you know
[01:23:08] Which is not very very idea. I don't I don't like the balance there
[01:23:12] They have there. Yeah looking back on some of their other games that we didn't get the chance to cast as well. They went SF
[01:23:18] have underlaw Koto which fits a lot better in my opinion like an active hero and then
[01:23:24] you have a spirit mid which is probably a bit more active for Jiren Jr. but it didn't
[01:23:28] really work out for him then so yeah it doesn't fit his style I think by nature his style is
[01:23:35] on the greedy side like if you look at both teams right I think they're going to be looking
[01:23:39] for their side lane calls to make rotations I think for Liquid they're looking for Mikkei
[01:23:45] to make rotations. I think he has to play an active hero. If he's playing something like a Luna,
[01:23:50] Moeta, like a Greedier type of hero, I think they might run into some problems in the game.
[01:23:54] Like, he's the person that you need to count on to balance out the greediness of Ace and the
[01:23:59] greediness of Nisha. So, you need to find the right hero for him. Yeah, it kind of seems like if
[01:24:05] they're able to put Saksa on his typical, you know, Os... Osfor, Melee, Hero,
[01:24:13] So, that could be pretty good. He's always looked amazing on the Tiny's and the Tusks
[01:24:18] setting up for the team. Maybe they could start there, but I can't imagine that Yandex
[01:24:29] or rather Liquid are going to give them that option.
[01:24:32] Yeah, it's going to be a lot on the draft here. A lot of mind games, a lot of trying
[01:24:38] to set up the hero pose and Nisha yesterday on his storm carried so much weight in one
[01:24:44] of the games.
[01:24:45] Navi, it was literally game in the early game crushing Niku, storm versus Kreat of Pain.
[01:24:53] You would never expect the storm to do so well but it reached a late game stage when
[01:24:57] Niku was also matching up, felt like an anime battle honestly.
[01:25:00] Today he's going to have to do it all again against the Andex.
[01:25:04] the index is also a very very strong team and they're gonna have to find a way
[01:25:09] they're gonna have to find a way to be able to play through the early and mid game
[01:25:13] since I think inherently the index is gonna be quite greedy compared to liquid
[01:25:17] liquid should be the less greedy a team depending on draft sometimes they are
[01:25:20] also greedy but like I said it's gonna depend on what Miky is gonna play he is
[01:25:25] going to be the important factor that allows all the greediness to be balanced
[01:25:29] out so funny little stat for you when you think of liquid
[01:25:34] you typically think that this is a team that plays fast right you think back to
[01:25:39] all those days with their nature's profit timing line up winning the lane
[01:25:43] crushing their opponents quickly in this event liquid have the highest average
[01:25:49] game duration when they win it's around 53 minutes when they lose it's around
[01:25:55] 43 minutes so even when they struggle they still crawl and stick their way in
[01:25:59] the game for way longer than anyone else overall having an average match time of
[01:26:04] Of course that match against Nabi yesterday certainly pulled the averages up
[01:26:08] But it just goes to show how different of a team this is
[01:26:12] From when they had 33 when they had in Sania, maybe even when they had Saber like right
[01:26:17] You're not really striking quite as fast or as hard in these early games
[01:26:20] You're not really hitting those timings like they used to I think the main thing is really the position five
[01:26:25] Like they don't really have a post five because everything is related
[01:26:28] So the Pulse 5 enables the carry. Then the carry can move because he has a stable early game
[01:26:34] and he can help the offlaner because Mikae plays like Deracho and now he has Ace. It should be the same thing
[01:26:42] but they just don't have that early game Pulse 5 enabler that allows all of these small little things to work perfectly
[01:26:48] I mean, I think they're trying to get there, but at this point, they're not really right there yet
[01:26:53] So they're trying to put a bandit on everything by having like two 4.5 heroes or two position four heroes
[01:26:58] And they try to move the lanes around to enable the game, you know
[01:27:02] You see a lot of liquid
[01:27:06] James boxy going to the safe lane and you see a lot of games where they try to also put tofu on the lane with ace
[01:27:14] So trying to smoothen out a lot of the issues but at least the vibes are good at least from what we can see in the play
[01:27:18] against Liquid. Let's start things out with their tiny ban of the task. We talked about the importance
[01:27:22] of the melee position force, Paul Satsa, but also Poboxy. He loves these setup heroes,
[01:27:29] very kill hungry, very play hungry. He's always looking for opportunities.
[01:27:38] Yeah, against Tiny, generally like I would say against Tiny, you are trying to build
[01:27:44] Like a 5 man draft. You don't want to split up against Tiny and obviously you also want saves, you know
[01:27:49] You know that saves against Tiny
[01:27:52] Actually feel like Ringmaster is like a pretty good hero. Not that they will play it. I think this sort of hero will be really good
[01:28:02] I think a good hero is called Tiny
[01:28:05] Because you do percentage base damage and obviously build pipe. Tiny is all magic damage. Even against the support Tiny
[01:28:11] It's pretty nice. You blink in and you get caught by the root, you know, from the pit.
[01:28:16] It could make it very hard for you to initiate as the Tiny.
[01:28:21] It's a little bit scary though because we do know that Liquid are very expert underlaw players themselves.
[01:28:27] They have perhaps the best professional underlaw in history, just Winrate alone in Ace.
[01:28:32] And for Yandex to pick this up so early, we were mentioning how important Notice is to their game,
[01:28:38] to their game but how liquid just build a draft that counters the underlord now?
[01:28:43] Like you mean like pick a Rubik? Rubik is the biggest counter to underlord.
[01:28:48] I mean surely there's other heroes that can deal well with him.
[01:28:51] Talking about Ursa, if you're talking about lane, Ursa is definitely a 1.
[01:28:57] But I expect that again, Dex will probably ban out the Ursa.
[01:29:01] Because if you are choosing to ban Ursa and Rubik, I think you probably will ban the Ursa.
[01:29:06] I mean, you're not banning Rubik in this kind of meta, that's for sure.
[01:29:10] Yeah, probably not.
[01:29:14] Let's try to figure out, I mean, Yandex, I don't think any other teams are first picking this underlord.
[01:29:20] And I also don't know whether Liquid wanted to keep this as a flex because to me, it signifies so hard as a boxy hero
[01:29:29] that it would feel weird to first pick the Nisha, especially when he has so much options.
[01:29:35] right you don't want to play core tiny into under in most cases I think it's a
[01:29:40] tough matchup for you you should just keep it on a support and here again
[01:29:47] next thing they're probably going to pick their one of their supports I think
[01:29:52] they should pick their five now so you should make this read that tiny is not
[01:29:55] going to be a call he's going to be a fall so you need to pick a five now that
[01:29:59] good against the Tiny. That's a couple you know. I like things like undying against it. But Warlock
[01:30:08] is fine too if they want to go Warlock. Warlock plus Underlord is very very strong together. The
[01:30:12] heal is actually very nice for the Underlord. So I got caught in games this other day and I think
[01:30:17] it was Nabi who played that Underlord against Moji's support Tiny. You were talking about how
[01:30:22] Underlord is good to call Tiny but I think also into support Tiny really annoying because
[01:30:27] as they support Tiny you're always blinking on the front lines trying to look for an initiation
[01:30:31] once you get those talents and the agonies there's so many pits on the ground
[01:30:35] that it's impossible to really like run right
[01:30:57] I hope it's just slight blip there in the tech issues me and winter we're improving on our
[01:31:14] neural connection there but we're back into the draft also comes out for the yandex side so instead
[01:31:20] of the liquid side where you were saying it might be a good counter pick into the underlaw yandex
[01:31:24] pick it up themselves and Liquid very quickly answer the blue master a bit of a strange way
[01:31:29] to open the draft for both teams honestly winter they are scared of the 18 part from from liquid
[01:31:35] because liquid really likes to 18 pick the part so i think that's probably one of the concerns why
[01:31:40] they decided to ban the part and because they needed to ban the ursa also so they can only ban
[01:31:44] one so they chose to pick the other one it's very interesting i kind of see the logic behind
[01:31:49] behind this and now Liquid, they are going to pick Blue Master right away which is a very very good
[01:31:56] hero and so I just toss him up in the air, a little bit counter and they have a potential
[01:32:04] pause 5 bad rider, I think Tofu is going to play this hero. I thought it would be a core hero for
[01:32:10] them since they already have to brew. There's no chance this Tiny is mid and it's a pause for
[01:32:16] bad right because I'm looking at this blue bad lane that is that this is a rubber ball
[01:32:21] also it's the support door okay tiny plus bad they have two position four
[01:32:25] years and yeah next I'm gonna have to respond with their own support duo here 16 17
[01:32:36] so I think I'm dying is actually amazing here I still feel it's very very good it's very good
[01:32:40] and it's tiny and blue monster you slow you slow the rulings and then you make it very hard for
[01:32:45] for the Tiny to A and shit.
[01:32:47] Warlock is okay, you can still go for Warlock.
[01:32:50] They go back for their Chen.
[01:32:53] They like the Chen with the Horrors.
[01:32:56] Stacking the Horrors and grouping up, because like I said,
[01:32:58] when you're playing into this Tiny Thailand, and now they're bad,
[01:33:01] so it means that you do not really want to be too split on the map.
[01:33:03] You want to be able to ball together to hit the buildings,
[01:33:07] so they can't pick you off on the map.
[01:33:09] They're going to be a bit more convenient for notice as well, right?
[01:33:12] you would imagine they'd want to get a pipe on the underlord,
[01:33:15] but then sometimes with the offlaners,
[01:33:18] you need to build all the auras.
[01:33:19] It takes you away from something like an agonims,
[01:33:21] which could be really high value for the underlord.
[01:33:23] So now you have a Chen to kind of fill that gap.
[01:33:26] If he wants the griefs,
[01:33:27] if he wants maybe like even a crimson
[01:33:29] or anything else, boots of bearing to help them escape,
[01:33:33] the Chen can fill in at least,
[01:33:37] I mean, Chen's gonna get a decent amount of farm regardas
[01:33:40] and now they have to suck some.
[01:33:41] Windranger, more pressure on the off lane, a pretty strong off lane duo.
[01:33:46] Not a harass damage for whatever Pulse 1 Mikkei has to pick into this lineup.
[01:33:51] What do you want into this lineup?
[01:33:53] Ursa as well as Windranger, very annoying.
[01:33:59] It's gonna be tough here to pick because they don't have a very good, like, a stable lane, you know, it's a bit bad.
[01:34:05] So I think he needs to play a melee hero.
[01:34:09] Maybe hero as a better
[01:34:13] Yeah, I guess we was kind of okay also if they wanted to go down that route we've had to pit is annoying as hell though
[01:34:22] I mean, I need something that can play the lane I don't bet on we were
[01:34:29] I'm not sure like maybe heroes maybe just a better than many cats
[01:34:32] Do you maybe want to do something like a Muetta for the late-game scaling into...
[01:34:37] No, I think it's going to be very slow though. They might get run over, but it's Chen.
[01:34:41] It's Chen Underlord. They are very, very fast on the Yandex side.
[01:34:44] Okay.
[01:34:45] I think they need something that can come online faster.
[01:34:48] As?
[01:34:49] Yeah, I guess we were...
[01:34:51] Abandoned.
[01:34:52] Still the Kling's available as well.
[01:34:54] Yeah, Kling's is okay too.
[01:34:57] Let's try to figure out what actually deals with this Underlord and lane.
[01:35:00] This 9 pick and it feels like Liquid have yet to really address it.
[01:35:04] I feel like notice is gonna have a final time in the game.
[01:35:11] They don't really have like an 18 mid hero either here.
[01:35:14] It's difficult you know, without the puck, I'm not sure you know.
[01:35:16] The best other mid heroes are probably like Storm, Queen of Pain.
[01:35:20] Which don't really look really attractive here right, because they are heroes that allow you to catch.
[01:35:26] And they kind of overlap with Piny and Barrel to get a single time.
[01:35:29] Bristleback, this is a nice pick. It sort of solves some of their problems. It's going into the chain.
[01:35:36] You can defend the towers as the Bristleback
[01:35:38] so down the game, it enables the backrider because it's a melee hero in the lane.
[01:35:42] So this is actually an excellent pick here. He might even see maybe he go for some
[01:35:48] aura this game to kind of help.
[01:35:51] I help the team sort of
[01:35:53] stabilise and hold off this push, you know. I can maybe see that happening also for them.
[01:35:57] Because who else is going to build it right? Your possible tiny ones is Blink, your...
[01:36:02] Nobody. Nobody wants to build it right?
[01:36:03] Yeah, Roo Master wants Midas into Aang's, which is what we've seen a lot into Blink's
[01:36:07] plans.
[01:36:08] Maybe Vassal they see. Vassal against the Chen might be good.
[01:36:12] Okay, good amount of control and teamfight here for Liquid, they're going to put a big
[01:36:17] fat body in front with the Bristleback, hoping to slow the Yandex ball down. Missing midlaners
[01:36:22] on both sides, that's the presumption at least.
[01:36:27] Like you mentioned the storm, the queen of pain still in the pool, storm just gets banned
[01:36:30] out by liquid.
[01:36:31] So the option is thinning out here for Yandex.
[01:36:34] Yeah, maybe if they don't really have an option they'll just put the tie in it but I can't
[01:36:38] say I'm like a big fan of playing Tiny Core and 2 with the Underlord and Ursa.
[01:36:45] He has co-op lah.
[01:36:46] I guess if he has nothing to go for he could just play the queen of pain here.
[01:36:52] But if he wants more teamfight then he probably has to go for something like Earth Spirit you
[01:36:56] But it's going to mean that the lane is going to suffer a lot if you're picking something down the route
[01:37:02] So I'm expecting like nation to maybe play something like a quarter
[01:37:05] I think it's very likely you'll play the Queen of Pain. I think it's more stable for the whole game. It gives them
[01:37:11] Damage it gives them skillings since you have a bristleback on carry
[01:37:14] So it means your middle laner is allowed to be a little bit more greedy
[01:37:17] So I think he's going to go down that grid route on the mid hero
[01:37:26] So if they pick Qwap, Yandex, how would they respond?
[01:37:31] I mean they already banned out the Ember, Ember is one of the better ones, so you can
[01:37:35] screen on Pain.
[01:37:36] There's no Puck.
[01:37:37] There's Void Spirit, Earth Spirit, still?
[01:37:40] Yeah, there's only Void Spirit, Earth Spirit, no, Earth Spirit suffers a lot.
[01:37:43] It's probably Void Spirit, or something else, or Chiragina, I don't know, maybe she's
[01:37:47] going to try playing something like a greedy one like Beast.
[01:37:51] Oh, it's the Beast.
[01:37:53] I guess it fits their death ball composition, but it feels a bit slow.
[01:37:56] It's just very slow if they do this.
[01:37:58] But it fits their composition.
[01:38:02] What about when I go mid?
[01:38:03] Nah.
[01:38:04] Not in Lago mid.
[01:38:05] I don't think so.
[01:38:07] That's a crazy dispel game though, and you, death ball together, could be high.
[01:38:11] I mean, just for the co-op right? As a counter to the co-op.
[01:38:14] Oh, I meant like on the Yan-Dex side, are you assuming that?
[01:38:16] Yeah, I mean you're saying if Liquid picks co-op, they can go Lago to dispel.
[01:38:21] Yeah.
[01:38:21] Okay, so they can go Nash.
[01:38:22] So now maybe they should just pick the quad on Yandex.
[01:38:25] Because quad is a good matchup into Lush.
[01:38:28] The lockdown is a bit awkward as well right from Liquid.
[01:38:31] You can probably imagine that quad can blink out of most of these situations.
[01:38:36] You just kind of have a lasso, have a toss, have a stun.
[01:38:38] Both sides have a limited amount of catch.
[01:38:43] Underlord has pit.
[01:38:44] That's it.
[01:38:45] Aslanostan, Chenostan.
[01:38:46] And then check for it.
[01:38:47] Do you want to pick more catch on Yandex instead of the quad?
[01:38:50] Oh, I think the lane is important.
[01:38:51] The catch is not so important because they're gonna ball up and play the map.
[01:38:54] You have underlaw to play the dead lane.
[01:38:56] So they go with the boy.
[01:38:58] Very tanky.
[01:38:59] This hero gives them a catch, so it's a lot more balance for the lineup.
[01:39:04] It's really good against the Bracer because you can turn him around
[01:39:06] when you catch him into the remnant.
[01:39:07] So I guess there's the value there against BB.
[01:39:11] Then you do also feel like maybe you kind of need a Vessel hero
[01:39:16] to take down the tanky heroes like BB, Blue Master.
[01:39:18] I think the Lash is probably going to get a grieve so maybe not so effective against him
[01:39:26] It's very very interesting the last two things
[01:39:28] I think they make a lot of sense to run up both sides line up
[01:39:32] I think they're gonna have a very very interesting game, but if you're gonna ask me who I fail
[01:39:37] I'm probably gonna favor the Yandex right here
[01:39:41] Yandex played against a similar draft when they were up against Navi just yesterday
[01:39:45] They had the same core set up. Thursa, Underlord as well as Void Spirit and in that particular game
[01:39:51] They were playing against a Bristleback as well and they were able to crush their opponents
[01:39:56] Pretty handily
[01:39:57] So we'll see whether Yandex can repeat that same result. They've certainly had practice with it already
[01:40:02] How do you feel about the closing picks though? The Bristleback you liked a lot, but what about this Lash?
[01:40:07] I think it's good. It makes sense when they are lineup because they need a gradient mid that can also act like a secondary carry
[01:40:13] Since you have a safe lane, Bristorback, so I think it fits the criteria of what they need, especially when you have a position for Tiny.
[01:40:20] You want your mid to be a high DPS hero, so you want either Lesh, Queen of Pain, Sniper. These are the types of heroes you want.
[01:40:28] So the early game has to be precise for the Lesh with the Tiny.
[01:40:32] So if they can actually find a couple of kills in the mid lane with the Tiny and Lesh, it could set up the whole team for success.
[01:40:39] but it won't be an easy task trying to kill a white spirit.
[01:40:43] Absolutely not. Very slippery hero that one, but maybe if the Lash can get him low with all those lightning storm stacking over each other,
[01:40:52] we might be able to see a kill. We'll see. We'll hop into the game very shortly.
[01:40:55] It's Liquid vs Yandex here as the best of ones continue.
[01:40:59] Again, just a reminder folks that we're still at the stage of this tournament, even though it's the last day of the group stage,
[01:41:06] where every single one of these games methods a lot.
[01:41:10] I think that's kind of the key difference between the Blast Land format with all these
[01:41:13] best of ones compared to other group stages, where at a certain point in other group stages
[01:41:18] you might think, okay, you know, one team's clearly eliminated or they don't stand a chance
[01:41:22] anymore.
[01:41:23] All that thought, Chira Jr. forced the level to assimilate, trying to get away but still
[01:41:27] chased down, and another game where we see one of the mid laners just walk up and die.
[01:41:32] I think they're just not used to people just fine manning mid because every time nowadays
[01:41:40] people just gather in the mid lane and do a late smoke so they don't go out to the mid
[01:41:43] lane to check anymore right.
[01:41:45] So I think this is why people are getting caught out again.
[01:41:48] So I think this couple of games are going to send a walling alarm to all the teams.
[01:41:52] Okay maybe we can't really do that anymore.
[01:41:54] People are starting to pick up on it, you know they're trying to kill us by having five
[01:41:58] heroes mid.
[01:41:59] They ought to be more careful when they are trying to walk up me because they're not using a smoke right so it's very very risky
[01:42:07] Be an encore here on to melody
[01:42:10] All you need is a toss and some napalm
[01:42:13] Light up that Cinderbrew put the damage out melody getting body blocked into oblivion and because cheera junior only has a
[01:42:21] Disimulate to work with he can't help them at all
[01:42:24] Now, Saksa tried to offer a power shot in that regard, not going to happen.
[01:42:27] So 2-0 on the board for Liquid, very nice stuff, and back to the point I was making,
[01:42:32] this game is still important for both of these teams, because if any one of them are able
[01:42:37] to secure multiple wins, they could be in contention for a direct seed to the semi-finals,
[01:42:42] and they get to skate all the play-ins, they can take a nice break, fly straight to Malta,
[01:42:47] and wait for their opponents there.
[01:42:50] substantial reward. She asked me getting to sit and chill and enjoy the doha without stressing.
[01:42:56] A really nice play there from Nisha, body blocking that range creep and preventing the
[01:43:00] disabilate from Chira Jr. from reaching. This is going to be not the easiest lane for the Void
[01:43:05] Spirit. He still should survive, just maybe not going to get a lot out of it because of that level
[01:43:10] one disseminate for stop and this lane as well under lord and win ranger against
[01:43:20] bat and it's not a lane that you're gonna see too often a very good stick
[01:43:24] lane against bb and bad rider since they are napalm on the bad rider and the top
[01:43:28] lane we have just tiny pulling around the quick way because he doesn't want to
[01:43:32] contest the chant pretty normal stuff here this is the lane where I don't think
[01:43:37] you're going to see too much action going on.
[01:43:40] You just want to secure your brew master's lane,
[01:43:42] a little bit of levels, and the tiny,
[01:43:44] he should be looking to, I think,
[01:43:47] pressure the mid and the bot lane the most,
[01:43:49] especially the mid.
[01:43:51] But it won't be easy, like I said, the voice spirit.
[01:43:53] I think they kind of put a lot of thought on it
[01:43:55] when they saw the Lash come out,
[01:43:56] and they know that Lash plus Tiny
[01:43:59] is going to exert a lot of pressure on mid lane,
[01:44:00] so they opted to go for something
[01:44:02] that could withstand the pressure with the voice spirit.
[01:44:04] So maybe the best opening would be the underlock and the wind ranger lane.
[01:44:09] If you see Tiny maybe having the huge amount of potential to set out a kill there.
[01:44:15] That's scared though because I mean even if the bad rider rotates over you can very much leave Bristle back by himself, you'd imagine.
[01:44:26] And then you clean gate up to the top lane one avalanche one toss light up the cinderbrew all the magic damage from the bat
[01:44:34] You can very easily kill this other Chen as well. They are very defenseless
[01:44:43] Gate what's gonna be important you need to put gate what's I
[01:44:48] Need something that we sometimes don't really get to talk about a lot
[01:44:53] But made for almost I think whenever
[01:44:56] you are against enemy post-5 that could rotate and pressure a lot. It's always ideal to at least
[01:45:02] consider whether it's worth it for you to to plant down some gate vaults. I think especially against
[01:45:08] certain teams like OG or maybe Spirit, you know, they really like to gank through the gates,
[01:45:14] then you should definitely consider getting that. Sometimes it just comes to you know, you don't have
[01:45:19] the vault and before nighttime, it's daytime, they come and you're just gonna die, you know,
[01:45:26] when the wave is under tower. Usually people will place the wards at night time because of the
[01:45:29] catapult wave spawning at five minutes. But if the gank comes any earlier, it could be bad also,
[01:45:35] you know, so maybe at around four minutes you should have the gate wards set up. Very, very
[01:45:40] important stuff to have maybe this game. Yeah, we see a lot of the more successful teams tending
[01:45:46] to use these twin gate rotations to their benefit, right? Trying to hit, okay, the second you hit
[01:45:51] level three you push the wave in a lot of it feels so coordinated and choreographed.
[01:45:56] Definitely something we could see from Liquid this game.
[01:45:59] For now, it's getting more parallel because they reduce the mana cost, right?
[01:46:03] So it's only 30 mana cost to go through the gate and then you're also allowed to cancel
[01:46:08] the channeling of the gate.
[01:46:10] So you're only going to lose the mana once you complete the channeling.
[01:46:13] So it gives you a lot of flexibility using the gates.
[01:46:16] I actually prefer that because it's slightly embarrassing but the amount of times I've
[01:46:20] I pressed the twin gate when I didn't want to, just to lose 70 mana, I'm like that.
[01:46:25] It's just, I guess, I'm not casted anymore spells.
[01:46:28] Everyone has done it.
[01:46:30] I'm sure everybody has done it, like there's a team fight at the gate.
[01:46:33] Somebody's gonna misclick something somewhere.
[01:46:38] Not these pro players though, could never be them.
[01:46:41] It happens. It happens to even the pro players.
[01:46:45] Could happen to you.
[01:46:47] Could happen to anyone.
[01:46:49] bump back big big one though still gonna get run down the damage
[01:46:54] this is a disgusting lane he went goo level two and combined with the
[01:47:01] napalm goo plus napalm you're not moving the dispel is going to be very
[01:47:06] important down the line for the side of the index to look into a griefs
[01:47:10] necessary perhaps as well this is the type of game where you mentioned earlier
[01:47:16] right the lago pick could be actually a good pick to deal with all this despair that's what i'm saying
[01:47:22] bring the frog out you know that guy he's a good time i know he doesn't have the best win rate but
[01:47:29] i'm sure you guys can make him work hope him i think the hero just needs the right teammates
[01:47:39] sometimes the player is combative with the hero but the drop doesn't exactly allow the lago to
[01:47:45] I think you give the teams one month, another month they'll be able to figure things out.
[01:47:53] Maybe even one or two weeks later you'll see better partners with the lago.
[01:47:58] I think the hero is definitely not the most complicated to play, but I think in terms
[01:48:03] of strategy you need to understand what heroes to pick with the lago.
[01:48:08] What kind of heroes do you think would fit the lago the best?
[01:48:11] Leshrac.
[01:48:12] The crook of genius on Leshrac?
[01:48:14] Amazing that's true
[01:48:17] Yeah, basically like a buff you you need a high DPS carry a call, you know that is a lot of damage
[01:48:22] You just keep buffing him. I don't think you necessarily want to have catch
[01:48:26] Even though I was a catch the main thing he I think he's like an IEO, you know
[01:48:30] You want like a super hard carry hero that does a lot of damage and you keep
[01:48:34] buffing the other guy to kill everyone else on the enemy team
[01:48:38] A Yandex will be keenly aware of that, given that they've run the lago successfully on
[01:48:44] the core in one of the games.
[01:48:45] They had a T8 and a Sniper, well, and it looked amazing for them in the late game.
[01:48:50] One small thing to mention, Winter, I know that you were saying the pronuptic nourishment
[01:48:54] and lightning storm build is a bit more of a trend.
[01:48:57] That's what we see Nisha go for this game, to bully the Void spirit.
[01:49:00] But overall, it seems like people are opting for Missanthropy more, at least in this tournament.
[01:49:06] Bot lane, Tofu gonna get run down, Saksa still will pay for it though, big one again,
[01:49:11] Miki being kept in place but the Quills are gonna come through.
[01:49:14] Saksa knows that he's dead so we'll just try and put out as much damage as possible.
[01:49:17] Miki coming in for that client of final Quill spray and notice has to be careful as well.
[01:49:22] But yeah, the Lash facets, I agree with you though, I think this facets cool but everyone
[01:49:27] seems to be picking Lash for the full purpose of the blink in to burst you down and dive all the edict.
[01:49:33] I think it's also matchup dependent. I think against the Husker, I think the games that you see happen, it's probably with the Husker, so you want to be able to kill him.
[01:49:42] I think if it's not Husker, it's in a matchup where, I think a bad matchup in Aulian, you want this Corruptic Nourishment to just spam Lightning Storm and farm.
[01:49:50] And if you want to go Grease, you definitely want this facet. So it really depends on what is going to be the plan for you, and what items are you building on the Lash.
[01:49:58] Yeah, it's just the win rate for the conducting nourishment build hasn't been too good so far seven games 40% win rate
[01:50:05] Yeah, but the win rate isn't everything. I think the winner is all good like to use it as a guide
[01:50:10] But you also have to understand why?
[01:50:13] Why is it good in that particular game? Why why is it being used?
[01:50:17] They could have just thrown maybe maybe the conducting nourishment was owning and then he just ran up to high ground and died like eight times
[01:50:23] Who knows?
[01:50:25] That's one of the beautiful things about Dota. Nothing is ever really that conclusive
[01:50:30] Look at Watson getting so aggressive from the earth sir
[01:50:33] A lot of rules, all numbers for everything can be banned, you know the numbers can be banned, the rules can be broken at the right time
[01:50:40] Yeah, one of Dota's finest once it stats don't lie, but stats could mislead. That's
[01:50:47] Yeah, that's precisely how we should put it
[01:50:50] It's it's kind of
[01:50:52] Silly to look at the number and deduce
[01:50:56] Or at least come to a conclusion you can maybe
[01:50:59] Draw some sort of suggestion from it, but you should never conclude. I think that's what I've learned
[01:51:04] At least in this level of Delta
[01:51:06] It's it really does come down as well, right?
[01:51:08] Like you could see like one hero with like the most God awful win rate
[01:51:11] But then if there's a hero specialist on it, then it's a bit of a different story last touch. What the hell?
[01:51:16] What was that? I cooked him
[01:51:18] In my head, he was going to TP home safely, he was going to arrive home for Chinese New
[01:51:25] Year but that was some last minute, cancelled his plans, didn't make the flight.
[01:51:32] If I'm not mistaken, I think he still had some Fury Swipe stacks from a previous auto
[01:51:39] attack.
[01:51:40] So when he came in with that overpower, right as the TP hit, there was so much damage from
[01:51:45] those auto attacks because he had already stacked up a few.
[01:51:47] Oh he's so strong on the brew, only trust, yes, at 7 damage.
[01:51:51] Rough time.
[01:51:52] Did a pressure here.
[01:51:53] 3 man rotation to this wisdom shrine area, Satsa is going to get run down.
[01:51:58] But unfortunately, they've used a lot of resources on the Windranger,
[01:52:01] and that will allow for Yannix to not only secure their wisdom shrine,
[01:52:04] but the opponent wisdom shrine as well.
[01:52:07] Ace is going to get killed one more time, again.
[01:52:10] It's the off-laner of Liquid who seems to be the one struggling the most.
[01:52:13] This is not looking good. They pick the brew into the Ursa. They open the draft with Tiny.
[01:52:21] Yandex picks Underlord and Ursa, and then they pick the brew into it, you know.
[01:52:26] This is very rough.
[01:52:28] I mean, this is kind of like the downside of Tiny. He doesn't really offer too much in
[01:52:34] terms of a lane. He just leaves you to your own device. I mean, this is the result, right?
[01:52:39] It's a bad matchup, Brook can't do much in this particular lane and he's getting punished.
[01:52:44] Very very hard, you know, in this matchup and now he's gonna have to wait for Nishaw to kind of
[01:52:51] gank and hopefully create some space but on the right side the other two calls on the other lanes are doing well.
[01:52:57] I start away from the avalanche there from Chi-Ren Junior trying to contest for the room.
[01:53:00] Illusion will go the way of Nishaw but yeah like you said the Lash is doing very well so is Mickey right?
[01:53:05] He's having a swell old time on the Bristol back.
[01:53:07] They are going to be the ones that need to create space for Ace to come back into the
[01:53:13] game.
[01:53:16] But there's also another bright side, Brew is not a hero that needs a lot of network
[01:53:20] to be effective.
[01:53:21] As long as you have your levels, you are going to be useful in the teamfights.
[01:53:25] You don't really have good Brewling killers, right?
[01:53:28] Like, Al-Sah can.
[01:53:29] Yeah, I mean, he only swipes them down, but it feels weird to be auto attacking.
[01:53:34] And then you can dispel his overpowered, make your split, you can toss it out in the air.
[01:53:40] There's definitely a lot of things you can do, you know, as the brewmaster against Ursa.
[01:53:47] Like, the brewmaster is frequently picked into the Ursa just because in the fights you have a free Eul's on your tornado, right?
[01:53:53] So you can just completely keep him out of the fight.
[01:53:55] It's very annoying because he basically has to pop his BKB to even get involved.
[01:53:59] It's not a foreign item for us to build into, just a bit uncomfortable that that's the only
[01:54:06] way you can participate.
[01:54:07] Well, so I probably want to blink before that as well.
[01:54:10] No, you can always consider getting a LinkedIn series.
[01:54:12] Not that I would suggest it, but.
[01:54:15] Well, Winter, unfortunately for you, you just suggested it.
[01:54:20] I won't take you seriously on that one though.
[01:54:25] But early game moments as both teams not really favouring action near the mid lane instead
[01:54:30] backing up to focus on their farm.
[01:54:32] Probably the 10 minute rune is when we'll see the next hustle.
[01:54:34] As you expected, Winter, Nisha going for those Guardian Greaves.
[01:54:37] Just a great early game aura item to help with some of these teamfights and an early
[01:54:42] Lotus ult for Mikkei is what's being looked at.
[01:54:44] Pullback Chira Jr. easy escape.
[01:54:46] We already mentioned this.
[01:54:47] The Void Spirit is a very hard kill.
[01:54:49] Very illusive hero, very tanky, but they're gonna fight for the runes. Tiny does not have mana.
[01:54:55] Alright, easy man. Watson is here, the carry is here.
[01:54:59] You're trying to TP out? We've seen this happen before.
[01:55:02] Get swiped down. 5 heroes from Yandex committing into the mid lane out of nowhere.
[01:55:07] They explode in and destroy both the Lash and the Tiny.
[01:55:12] That was a very, very nice move from Yandex.
[01:55:16] They were clearly ready to fight for the runes. They understand how important it is for the LESH to get the runes and
[01:55:21] They fully abuse the fact that they have better supports for that, you know
[01:55:25] Bad and tiny, they're not as strong when they're low level, they need levels
[01:55:28] Whereas Chen and Renekton, they are way way stronger. Not to mention they bought their carry, so they had the numbers advantage
[01:55:34] Yeah, really nice from Watson to connect to that move. I think you were talking about it as well
[01:55:39] The sign of this team Yandex maturing has been Watson learning to play a bit more active
[01:55:43] finally becoming the right so many the ratio clones you're talking about Mickey
[01:55:52] similar similar to him and now Watson trying to follow in his footsteps pretty
[01:55:56] clear that I'm a big fan of that guy you know he's not around anymore I mean he
[01:56:00] is around he's just busy streaming nice stun maybe they can finally get the catch
[01:56:04] of the cheera junior just kidding so at a shoot room ticking they barely scratched
[01:56:09] through that absurdly tanky and this void spirit pick as much as it didn't dominate
[01:56:14] the lane as much as the queen of pain, he's been very safe and he's kept up his net worth.
[01:56:20] Oh, okay, well maybe not, he's actually absurdly poor, hang on, I just realized.
[01:56:26] It's tough melee hero into chronotic nourishment, Lash, you're getting spammed now.
[01:56:31] Imagine if Void Spirit with the shield, with the barriers also suffering, you know, it's
[01:56:35] It's not like he died a bunch of times, he only died once, you know, and been this far behind.
[01:56:41] Very surprising.
[01:56:43] Well try and get his net worth back, please.
[01:56:45] He kills with that score vessel.
[01:56:46] Oh, big on the lash.
[01:56:47] I mean, the Bristleback's even bigger, 6.3k net worth at 12 minutes.
[01:56:52] It's level 6 right now, so it's time for him to join the party.
[01:56:56] Back to fighting for the runes, it's gonna be in the bot side, but again, a rerun of 2 minutes ago when they popped for the rune back then,
[01:57:04] They just bring in all their heroes, Yandex just run it back and Liquid fall for the same
[01:57:09] trap.
[01:57:10] That's probably a sign that you cannot play in the middle section of the map anymore.
[01:57:15] You need to play on the side lanes.
[01:57:18] You need to play on the under-loss lane.
[01:57:19] Gang him there, bring your left track over, you have to concede the runes in this setup.
[01:57:25] Maybe they could have prepared better by getting, because Blue of Dallas 6, right, they had
[01:57:28] to bring A's nearer to the fight if they wanted to contest the runes.
[01:57:33] maybe you can TP down the others when the boost split goes off, but if Ace is not willing to commit,
[01:57:39] then it means that you have to consider the rune. But also the general idea here, I think for Liquid,
[01:57:44] is they need to focus more on fighting on the side lanes. That's when the Chen is not as effective.
[01:57:49] I think Chen, Windranger, they are very effective at fighting around the mid area, around the rune
[01:57:53] section supplement. Big stack being stolen away by Watson, but if you make a TPing in,
[01:57:57] they'll have to concede this area. And I shackle to keep them at bay. I get your point about Ace
[01:58:03] not wanting to commit but I wonder why like he wanted to go back up to the top
[01:58:08] level to farm but he had split available we saw him in the triangle he just
[01:58:12] didn't follow I feel like that was an important moment there or maybe he was
[01:58:16] asking him to play that side lanes and he wasn't really happy here fighting
[01:58:20] around the mid section of the map you know it's just under a lot TP so he's
[01:58:23] also kind of right you know now Saksa is gonna try to power shot and
[01:58:28] snipe him down let's see Sniper Saksa can he find him thinking that he's run
[01:58:32] back ace is juking him out though. Good footwork there with Storm Panda, bomb.
[01:58:37] He still has one more try. He's gonna try. I think he's gonna get it man.
[01:58:41] Yeah, he's too much half right now. He's got the tranquil boots in you.
[01:58:50] My best tranquil boots is starting his road to recovery on the bootmaster.
[01:58:56] Long road ahead though but with all those kills in the mid lane, Watson top of the
[01:59:01] net worth and the lead towards his blink dagger in just about 1000 gold very nice timing for
[01:59:09] him meanwhile Mickey's still huge as well right lotus hop complete so he's able to reflect
[01:59:14] some of the shackles some of the spells coming out from yandex and most importantly get out
[01:59:19] of the way of that pit which is going to be a big problem also it's really good insta
[01:59:23] vessel which is coming out on the voice period that is the biggest threat against him in
[01:59:30] early in the vessel damage the NT here so he's gonna be safe from it for now he
[01:59:35] needs to be there is to be really active and he needs to allow ace to
[01:59:39] actually be passively following right now and he can only play the reactionary
[01:59:43] game on the blue master and the bristleback needs to be the ones soaking up
[01:59:47] the attention
[01:59:53] and the Lord's going to complete his pipe that's gonna give them a very very big
[01:59:56] power spike it's a lash and a tiny all the magic damage going down the drain
[02:00:00] So Yandex is going to hit an incredibly strong timing in the game in the next one minute
[02:00:08] See what kind of situations they can force from it. Maybe they go for early road trip that Chen and the Ursa
[02:00:13] Let's get a nice two fight. Where's way to both top? 15 minutes. She's gonna travel
[02:00:20] So got that tier one intact so they can very easily connect to that location
[02:00:26] Yeah, this is this is the thing why the tier one towers are so important
[02:00:30] It allows for you to defend or attack the Roshan play in the early stages of the game.
[02:00:36] That's why there's a lot of emphasis for some teams when they pick heroes to defend
[02:00:40] and hold the mid lane. Lash is a really good hero to hold and defend the tower.
[02:00:45] But against a Chen, then it becomes very very difficult.
[02:00:49] Let's pick off their Chira, Junie and Satsa attack teaming up in this bot side area.
[02:00:53] I don't think you really expect Yandex to be around on the hunt here, especially since it's that dead lane.
[02:00:59] You would think that they come up here to the top lane, maybe to defend that all important tier one that you were mentioning and sure enough the rainbow TP's
[02:01:05] is Chira, Jumi and the gang.
[02:01:07] It's impossible not able to get his own Lotus off.
[02:01:10] The Spirit Vessel gets full value because of the control and Ace again just forced to flee.
[02:01:16] At this blue master he's been on the road to recovery but...
[02:01:18] Have we ever seen a split?
[02:01:19] We have not.
[02:01:21] At this point, Liquid are bending over backwards to try and create space for this man.
[02:01:26] But he hasn't repaid them just yet.
[02:01:29] This is really really bad news. Underlord has been part of every single move that Yandex is making.
[02:01:35] But Liquid doesn't have their offlaner participating yet. You know, I get it that he had a bad early game.
[02:01:40] But he has to be more proactive, trying to find ways that he can contribute to the team.
[02:01:45] Yeah, the thing is, at the same time, you said it, the brew out of all the heroes that you could possibly pick in the offlane
[02:01:55] has so much use, even if he doesn't have gold.
[02:01:58] But the way that Ace is playing right now,
[02:02:00] it almost feels like he's saying,
[02:02:01] I'm too poor to fight.
[02:02:02] Bro, they need your split.
[02:02:04] Liquid are getting run over right now,
[02:02:06] and at some point in the game,
[02:02:08] it was this Lash and the Bristleback
[02:02:10] that were on top of the net worth.
[02:02:11] They had such great timings, they were so huge,
[02:02:14] but then Yandex are connecting.
[02:02:17] Liquid are not.
[02:02:18] And suddenly, 6K gold deficit,
[02:02:20] Yandex are on the pit, taking this rose for free.
[02:02:22] And this lead is just gonna keep growing and being a problem
[02:02:29] And liquid needs to fight back with a Bruce pay
[02:02:32] There's no other way they need to find a fight when they can connect with their blue and the tiny
[02:02:37] I mean tiny's gonna have his dagger in a bit, but I
[02:02:40] At this point, I don't even know if they have
[02:02:43] They have the opportunity to fight during the tormentor. They really lost the a is so
[02:02:47] How are you supposed to contest or matter when the enemy has a is right?
[02:02:50] You're not probably not going to do that. So you're going to lose another 3k net worth in total
[02:02:56] And you're gonna be like connecting right now is one death after the other two supports going down there
[02:03:01] Just getting picked off for free in between all these objectives. That's the problem
[02:03:07] Their lineup is just very slow if they're not getting a really good start, you know the blue master
[02:03:12] The tiny and bear and I need to farm their daggers
[02:03:14] Shackle, Reflected, that's awkward. The rest of Liquid ready to try and fight back.
[02:03:22] Saksa shackles himself, Han of God trying to keep him safe, but he's in way too deep.
[02:03:26] They'll even commit the lasso for him. The first positive momentum going Liquid's way,
[02:03:30] they want to force it, but Mikkei, he's too low. He can't get out and the split comes
[02:03:34] out too late. Mikkei dies on the front lines.
[02:03:38] So much spells used to kill one Windranger and they can't really take the subsequent
[02:03:42] fight. Yandex knows, you know, a lot has been expanded to kill off Saksa, so that was a very,
[02:03:50] very easy decision to make to jump him in the other side with Aegis. I love this decision from
[02:03:55] notice as well. In a game as good as this, you might be tempted to go a bit greedier, hit straight
[02:03:59] for that agonims, but he understands just how far ahead they are. If he can secure more auras,
[02:04:05] he's going to get unkillable and help his team achieve the same status. You look at the greaves
[02:04:11] complete for the Chen very quickly on top of the drums. You're looking at a Solar Crest for the
[02:04:15] Wind Ranger. All these team items are coming together to turn Watson and Chira Junior into the monsters
[02:04:20] that they are on the front lines. Liquid they're on the run. Bayer will be spotted. Chira Junior will
[02:04:29] just throw no remnant out to scout. Just feels so hard to exist on the map right now. We thought
[02:04:39] thought that the Lotus Orb would keep Mikkei safe but clearly with how fast they're bursting
[02:04:43] him down he doesn't even have the chance to pop it.
[02:04:46] Looking towards Shira Junior, there's the toss back, where's the follow up lockdown,
[02:04:48] no lasso available, Shira Junior's out with the double astral step again.
[02:04:53] As easy as 1, 2, 3 and now Watson will come in, make it 3, 4 and 5, over power strikes
[02:04:57] on Zunisha, he doesn't stand a chance.
[02:05:00] Now you're looking towards Mikkei, they can just keep this chase going but they gotta
[02:05:04] watch themselves, the damage in the goo starting to stack up, lasso's back on but Watson will
[02:05:09] Slay tofu and look towards ace no split only a brewmaster going down again
[02:05:15] Ace has not had a game at all and it's a 9k gold lead at the 20 minute mark I
[02:05:20] mean Yandex they could just walk into the top and they can take anything they
[02:05:25] want it feels like this this game is like almost over I like it they are
[02:05:31] unable to find anything to fight back with you know the last two brew splits
[02:05:36] have not really accomplished anything at all because they are already so far behind. It's
[02:05:40] already too late and you have a Bristol bad carry so you don't even have like a very hard
[02:05:45] carry and you're losing all this early game fights with BB and brewmaster as your cause.
[02:05:50] This is very very concerning.
[02:05:54] This is a lineup on liquid that has so much potential early on but they just weren't able
[02:05:58] to connect like you said and their supports are dropping like flies. Their calls are not
[02:06:03] really having a good time either it's only so much you can do when all of your
[02:06:07] set up all of your catch is between tofu and boxy and they are just dying off
[02:06:13] cooldown to the Yandex cause on the sidelines
[02:06:20] I don't really see how they can fight back anymore. The best thing they can
[02:06:25] hope for is try to somehow push the sidelines and wait for pick offs on the
[02:06:29] side with the bad rider and Ty. But even then, you know, because you're up against the underlaw,
[02:06:33] he doesn't have the show to push the lanes. It doesn't give you any opportunities to pick
[02:06:38] heroes off on the side lane. And he has that global presence to join his team at a moment's notice,
[02:06:43] you know. So it's very hard for Liquid to actually find a move to come back into the game. I think
[02:06:47] they don't really have any options remaining, but to just wait for the push to come and hopefully
[02:06:52] take a successful team fight. Someone gets tossed into the base, you get lassoed, you pull him into
[02:06:56] the tier 4 towers and maybe he can kill the target.
[02:06:59] It feels like wishful thinking, all the auras like we keep mentioning and
[02:07:03] Newsflash for you Winter, Nothist is level 18.
[02:07:07] This is a 9 pick underlaw that was allegedly answered.
[02:07:10] He had such a difficult start to the lane against that bristleback-back combo
[02:07:14] but he's managed to stabilize, connect with the moves and find success for his team.
[02:07:19] This is for sure one of Nothist's best heroes.
[02:07:24] Now seeing why Yandex value it so highly here...
[02:07:32] Liquid, what are your options?
[02:07:33] They've tried so many times with this bad rider initiation
[02:07:36] or maybe even the tiny tossback.
[02:07:39] But...
[02:07:39] Who can you even kill?
[02:07:41] You're never seeing Malady on his hero.
[02:07:44] He's just gonna throw the creeps forward.
[02:07:45] He's always behind his team.
[02:07:47] Kira Jr. is not a viable option
[02:07:48] because now he has the axe to silence everybody up
[02:07:50] in a few astral steps too tanky.
[02:07:52] Like, the only time they ever got a meaningful kill was on Tassadza, but that's when they
[02:07:58] used the lasso and tossed him back to a tier 2, and then they proceeded to lose their carry
[02:08:02] on Liquid.
[02:08:03] Talk about how important this game is for both these teams.
[02:08:09] They are both vying for similar spots on the standings right now.
[02:08:14] Both of them would love to just skip over the rest of the play-ins and head straight
[02:08:18] to the semi-finals, but at least for Liquid, that feels like a dream that's a bit further
[02:08:22] away with how this game is going, trying for a smoke to finally take a fight on their terms.
[02:08:27] It's Maladio on the front line that they find, eliminating the Chen could be huge.
[02:08:32] Little goo ball out here, getting themselves an easy target.
[02:08:36] And the rest of Yandex make that executive call to escape. No one else will be caught.
[02:08:44] The first step in the right direction, right?
[02:08:46] One kill, then we have more.
[02:08:50] First step in the marathon, that liquid have to run right now.
[02:08:53] And now Ersa has agonies, so it's going to be, I think close to impossible to kill him
[02:08:58] anyway.
[02:08:59] The fight has to be so drawn out that you kill the other heroes and then you leave the Ersa
[02:09:04] for last, you know.
[02:09:05] And hope that the Ersa hasn't killed all of your heroes.
[02:09:09] We haven't even seen this brewmaster, Ersa interaction at all, right?
[02:09:13] We were talking about how the split is so useful into this hero.
[02:09:18] We saw one split where the Ursa killed this carry anyway and he couldn't even use it.
[02:09:23] Or couldn't even tornado him, sorry.
[02:09:26] Jiruun snatched away by Chira, straight back up to safety, no risk at all.
[02:09:32] All you really have is a use on Nisha if you're not counting the split.
[02:09:35] The ability to kite is lacking here from Liquid.
[02:09:40] And they don't even have damage against the pipe and crimson right now, like how are they even going to kill heroes you know?
[02:09:45] I actually don't think the damage will be sufficient on the liquid side once the 5 vs 5 happens.
[02:09:51] And did you see how long Melody took to kill? Like he was caught by like 3 heroes and he just stood there for additional 4 seconds before dying.
[02:09:57] That's your pause 5 by the way.
[02:10:00] That's your pause 5 who's higher networked than your Midas Brood master by the way.
[02:10:06] That's what Chen does, you farm.
[02:10:08] That's your pause 5 that's 1k gold behind your mid Lash by the way.
[02:10:14] Oh my goodness.
[02:10:18] If Malibu is changed, you're gonna regret it.
[02:10:20] When you've taken the whole map, you've taken the powers.
[02:10:23] You've taken every objective.
[02:10:25] That's being committed upon here in the top lane, but here comes the backup.
[02:10:29] Here comes the cavalry, notice. Ready to help his laning partner out.
[02:10:33] With the last bits of the split, they'll be able to take him down
[02:10:36] and keep notice up in the air where he can't cause them any more problems.
[02:10:41] Since now coming as well, this is a much harder target liquid.
[02:10:44] Do you really want to stick around for this?
[02:10:46] The rest of Yandex connecting in now, just biding their time waiting to strike.
[02:10:50] Straight in on to Mickey, pull him back in.
[02:10:52] He's turned the wrong direction, Watson laying into him.
[02:10:56] Says to watch himself first and rage.
[02:10:57] Comes out, he holds up in the sky.
[02:10:59] That's what you want to see.
[02:11:00] Jira Junior still struggling to find the target but keeping them silenced for now
[02:11:03] and it's Nisha on the front line to take the brunt instead.
[02:11:06] Toss back, out to safety, good play there from Boxy.
[02:11:09] For the pits, the slows, he just can't escape.
[02:11:12] Liquid, they have not a lot of options to work with,
[02:11:15] as Chira Junior will try and keep the chase going, but guesses in the wrong direction.
[02:11:20] Sticking around for that kill on the note is assuming that the rest of Gandex wouldn't be ready.
[02:11:24] That's just hubris right there.
[02:11:28] There was no way they could have killed the Underlord.
[02:11:30] With the tier one tower behind him.
[02:11:34] No way.
[02:11:34] I think they were just so desperate because the game is just going so badly for them
[02:11:39] Maybe they thought they could try and force the issue. Sartzer will get caught by another lasso
[02:11:43] Big bits of magic damage blocked by the pipe and here comes Chira Junior finishes boxy takes down Tofu
[02:11:49] The supports of Liquid continue to fall
[02:11:52] Now Sartzer you just TP'd up here, but
[02:11:55] He has a tumbler's toy so he can get down with ease no major problems there
[02:12:00] And the deathmatch for Yandex the ball has been assembled for a while now and they'll keep things going
[02:12:10] Underlot has 30 armor just with the frost armor and just his items
[02:12:17] Okay, I mean like sure like how do you even?
[02:12:22] Silly really that they even tried to kill him
[02:12:24] As you always like to tell me winter just because you're behind and just because it's hard doesn't mean you shouldn't do it
[02:12:33] Liquid they are definitely still kicking still trying
[02:12:38] That's 19k gold Lee
[02:12:42] It's just a southern one to call me in the early like it's it's a long time
[02:12:45] It's like 10 minutes ago 10 15 minutes ago when he was behind I think those were the important times for him to
[02:12:50] Actually enable his thing and just go in here
[02:12:53] but because he has chose not to do that and now the game has spiraled so much
[02:12:58] out of control that even if the blue master is rich you know or at least he
[02:13:02] has some network now it's already too late there's nothing more you can do
[02:13:06] yeah the agonim sector feels a bit like an afterthought what's being placed down
[02:13:10] but the only person you spot is notice we saw how that went the previous time
[02:13:14] towards Chira Junior might be the easier target but again the chain stuns off
[02:13:18] off the mark, pit on the floor, pulling them back in Liquid.
[02:13:21] You have to run.
[02:13:23] This is not the situation you were looking for.
[02:13:26] Now the pit to catch more.
[02:13:28] Here comes the dark gate.
[02:13:31] Bringing in the heroes, Ace will finally pop the split, look towards Malady, but he has
[02:13:35] a hand of God and a bajillion auras to keep him safe.
[02:13:38] Liquid, they are sticking around trying to do what damage they can, but Ace will come
[02:13:42] back out.
[02:13:43] There's a buyback from Boxy.
[02:13:44] Lasso out onto Chira, Jr.
[02:13:45] Maybe they can find their target.
[02:13:47] Absolutely not.
[02:13:48] Just gotta dance away team Yandex are making liquid look like fools as ace can do nothing but TP out
[02:13:54] He'll survive but he's left his team to die Mickey pulled back in by the gale force. He's saying where's my off later
[02:14:01] He's not here anymore a triple kill into a roche
[02:14:04] I mean you've been saying this game is over, but I just feel like they're not even being able to kill a hero
[02:14:11] That's tough work, man
[02:14:13] very very difficult game to watch if you're a liquid fan they just couldn't really find
[02:14:20] a footing you know in the early game and they go up to a decent start getting first bird
[02:14:26] and all but I mean just this toss back they're not letting the spirit of onto the toss back
[02:14:31] but even if they landed the spirit of I still feel like the fight is going to be very difficult
[02:14:35] under a lot it's going to bump the void spirit it's going to drop the pit on multiple heroes
[02:14:39] and the fight is going to be over.
[02:14:41] Yeah, you still had hand of God through all of this. You see that Agadam's blue master fight put in the damage.
[02:14:46] They can't even kill the champ. Yeah, they can't.
[02:14:49] Yeah, it's tough, man. It's tough. He had the grieves, he had the drums, and the combo's cut just dashes himself out.
[02:14:56] And nobody's touching Watson. So your split has ended, you got no more control.
[02:15:01] He has a BKB, just full burst down onto Mikkei.
[02:15:04] And not really sure what that last toss was. Boxy actually throws Mikkei in.
[02:15:09] Speaking of Meche, now being caught out, Pitadak, held in place, nowhere to run and a second Pit.
[02:15:15] You'll try and toss him away, but guess what? There's a Pit there as well!
[02:15:18] Everywhere you look, pits, firestorms, chaos and pain, Liquid, there is no corner of the map that they'll be safe.
[02:15:27] Not even in their own base, Ace will get swiped down surely. The last bit of damage, Sansa will snipe him.
[02:15:33] GG is called Liquid, not the way that they wanted to start this very important day 3 of the group stage.
[02:15:40] They still have a few more chances to maybe secure their spot in the semi-finals.
[02:15:44] But if this performance keeps continuing on, they might have to try a little bit harder to maybe keep themselves out of last chance qualifiers.
[02:15:53] They are very, very unfortunate start for Liquid today. They're gonna have to work harder.
[02:15:57] They're gonna have to try to figure out what is the problem and why can't they connect as a team, you know?
[02:16:02] I think Ace also has to kind of figure out his priorities.
[02:16:05] I think he's a little bit too selfish at the moment, at least in this game, when he's playing for his own game.
[02:16:10] Too much room time willing to use his split to help out his team.
[02:16:13] Definitely costing you, especially the room fights.
[02:16:16] The full room fights that underlock TP in, and the Ursa also connected to, kind of sealed the early game lead for Yan.
[02:16:24] Next year they were in full control, they took Roshan, they took Tormentor after that, and that was it, you know.
[02:16:28] I felt like that was a really pivotal moment for Ace to come back in the game,
[02:16:31] because he had a bad laning phase, but Nisha and Micky, they were so farmed.
[02:16:36] All he needed to do with the brew is to just support the Lash and the BB
[02:16:40] when they're coming to fight the runes.
[02:16:41] And I think that would actually put his team in a way, way better position in the game.
[02:16:46] But instead, they got ran over by the Fiends Gate from Underlord,
[02:16:50] Kudos to Nottage, you know, just connecting, and also Watson coming to the rune fights
[02:16:54] and making sure that they have the numbers advantage and completely wiping
[02:16:57] Lashwack's advantage off the early game.
[02:17:00] You can kind of see that Yandex, there's a clear marked difference between how notice is playing versus Ace.
[02:17:08] Notice and Ace both having really difficult starts to the lane, but Yandex, clearly a lot more practiced
[02:17:14] in terms of connecting to make sure that their off laner still has a game
[02:17:19] and their off laner connecting back to pay them back.
[02:17:23] His involvement in these fights with the pits and everything,
[02:17:26] It just made things so difficult for Liquid to really pop off on Nisha and Nikkei.
[02:17:31] We talked about it even when we were looking at the rosters.
[02:17:34] It feels like these two have to do everything for the team right now,
[02:17:38] while the rest are still trying to stabilize.
[02:17:40] And unfortunately, in this best of one, they weren't able to do so.
[02:17:43] And they'll wrap things up at least for the first game for Liquid.
[02:17:45] They still have a couple of matches down the line.
[02:17:48] Later on, we'll see them face off against Gamer Legion.
[02:17:50] But for now, it's going to be Heroic vs. Rekordix.
[02:17:54] two teams at the bottom of the standings who need to try and fight for survival after short break.
[02:24:54] Liquid fans in shambles as Yandex were able to slap them down in a very convincing fashion
[02:25:01] but we are moving on here on day 3 of the BLASTLAM6 group stage and this one is going
[02:25:08] to really really matter especially for Reconyx.
[02:25:12] This Southeast Asian team has made it all the way here to their first international tournament
[02:25:17] only to find themselves at the bottom of the standings at the moment.
[02:25:21] and six but that doesn't really tell the full story does it winter yeah a lot of
[02:25:27] the games that they lost they actually could have won you know so I don't think
[02:25:31] they're actually playing that badly they were saying well they just needed to
[02:25:34] figure out what are the small details that they need to you know improve and
[02:25:38] actually be more composed I think composure is something that they might be
[02:25:41] lacking when they are in a position to take over the game they just kind of
[02:25:46] fumble the game sometimes so those are the things that will only come with time
[02:25:49] you need to lose games badly, you need to throw games, unfortunately, and then you will remember,
[02:25:56] right? Because when it hurts, it will make you remember. Just feels a bit odd because you see
[02:26:02] the man in the middle of your screen, perhaps the most recognizable of all the players,
[02:26:06] Mr. FBZ, more experienced than the rest, but he seems to be the portion of the team that's lagging
[02:26:13] behind a little bit. Much like we were talking about Liquid having a bit of an off-laner issue,
[02:26:18] in some of the games where Reconyx don't look the best,
[02:26:20] FBZ is struggling to be that stable anchor.
[02:26:23] But on the flip side, kind of maybe a similar story for Heroic here, right?
[02:26:28] Their off-laner has widely been regarded to be the best to ever do it from South America.
[02:26:35] But it feels like with the recent setup, bringing Theolokor in,
[02:26:40] having Mr. Tylong, the 16-year-old prodigy in the mid-lane,
[02:26:45] It hasn't really fixed their problems, and Whisper's return to the offlane was widely regarded as probably the better move than making him go mid.
[02:26:53] But it hasn't really looked entirely clean either. They had also many games they were supposed to win,
[02:27:01] even in situations where they were behind at first, and then another team somewhat through.
[02:27:06] I'm talking specifically about Tundra versus them yesterday where Pior literally dropped a fully stacked deso on the ground,
[02:27:14] gave Heroic a big opportunity to win, and they ended up throwing anyway.
[02:27:19] So I think Composure, definitely the name of this best of one, will see which one of
[02:27:24] these teams can cling on to theirs, and perhaps with it, cling on to a chance at staying in
[02:27:30] the middle of the pack, right?
[02:27:31] For Reconyx, they're trying to claw their way out of the last chance playoffs, at the
[02:27:35] very minimum they'll have at least one more best of three to prove themselves and keep
[02:27:39] it going.
[02:27:40] If they could get back up to the plains, that would give them a lot more security and a lot more comfort.
[02:27:46] Heroic on the flip side, it might just be a bit too far away of a dream for them to come back from 3-4 all the way to the top for the semi-final spot,
[02:27:55] but they still need to make sure that their spot in the middle of the groups is not being wrestled away.
[02:28:02] Definitely very, very important games for both teams. A lot to prove, a lot to show, a lot to learn.
[02:28:09] And for Heroic, let's see where are they going to be heading to. They seem to be in the right direction
[02:28:16] I think the last couple of games they showed some
[02:28:20] Very very good drafts. They showed some good potential. They understand what they have to do in the game
[02:28:26] And we're gonna see a potential whisper bad rider. He's really really known for this hero from back in the day one of his best heroes
[02:28:35] sure even when it's not matter he'll bring it out this is the counter right
[02:28:40] away the dispel I like this incoming against bad core so that this would
[02:28:50] probably complete this carries the bad from being a core role here now the
[02:28:57] weird thing is so far we've seen a lot of first pick bats and then they get
[02:29:00] countered by these Lagos or Abadons and whatever and then the team still decide to play the
[02:29:08] callback and it's fine because the hero can just still farm and buy these items and we've even seen
[02:29:14] some quote-unquote countered bad riders end up winning the game anyway with clutch lassoes.
[02:29:23] But we also seen games where the bad didn't do anything. Remember it was one game yesterday
[02:29:28] bad against a badden and he just was a non-factor the whole game. I couldn't do
[02:29:33] anything. Yeah I know what you're saying.
[02:29:39] I don't know I think Cas is a good band. I don't want to give the
[02:29:44] recording staff Cas. Either way they need to decide what to do with his bat.
[02:29:48] Later I'm not gonna be a very big fan of putting bat on the call anymore after the
[02:29:53] Largo is being picked by Reconyx.
[02:30:00] Largo opening, you did talk about this hero being a bit more difficult to make work because teams just haven't fully understood it yet.
[02:30:08] The win rate after day one was not the brightest, and even now in the midst of day three, still not looking too hot.
[02:30:15] 15 games overall picked, 5 wins, 10 losses. That's a 33% win rate. That's not cute.
[02:30:21] I just want to highlight the draft where they're banning out all their comfort heroes.
[02:30:26] Four heroes in the five bands are targeted at Jigroy and one band at Varys.
[02:30:31] We did say that Varysia's best hero is that Disruptor and you've just taken out most of
[02:30:36] the Jigroy hero pool.
[02:30:38] What's left is probably the Morphling, I want to say.
[02:30:41] Morph, Ursa, I mean you can still play those heroes but those are maybe not something that
[02:30:48] I prefer so much more things slower hero, I like to play fast, I also the fact that
[02:31:00] you have Largo, I feel like whenever you draft Largo, you want to abuse the aura early and
[02:31:05] play fast, you want to attack, you want to have cause that can come to the team fights
[02:31:10] early, be active and not wanting to take too much time to farm in the jungle or farm his
[02:31:16] items in the lanes you know. I think you want active carries and abuse the
[02:31:21] Lago timings in the early game. We mentioned about the the croak of genius so
[02:31:25] you want heroes they can use that. Heroes like Lash, Storm, Timber, Beastmaster.
[02:31:31] Yeah those are the type of heroes you want with Lago and you want carries they
[02:31:36] can kind of enable him in the lane. Razor, Razor's band, weaver, those range heroes
[02:31:41] they can fight early on. So that will be the direction I would take here with this Lago opening.
[02:31:47] Tiny is also kind of a good pairing with Lago as a support duo because Lago doesn't have any
[02:31:53] catch. Tiny provides the catch. Tiny can also use the Croak of Gene as well.
[02:32:00] This could be a pause for. This could still be our support duo here. There also is a chance even
[02:32:04] though it's not really Reconyx's style to play this Lago as a core. So far in the Reconyx drafts,
[02:32:11] You know, I know you mentioned that the morphling isn't really the type of tempo that they want to have
[02:32:17] But they have paired this morphling lago in two of their previous games and yeah, naturally
[02:32:23] They didn't do too well with it. They lost both a slow hero and a
[02:32:27] Support that needs to be fast. Definitely doesn't belong well together. I think what would end up happening is there probably gonna put
[02:32:34] Dolo on lago, and that's what they've done before
[02:32:38] for and in your dream will play the tiny mid here so we'll probably know more in the next
[02:32:44] two picks but I expect them to show their position 5 hero and maybe the carry right
[02:32:52] once they see the third pick from Heroic because now you're going to figure out where
[02:32:56] the bad rider is going what the bad rider is doing here.
[02:32:59] What's the idea here with this tiny pick though?
[02:33:02] Like why why is this just a it's just a flex that you can go support you can go I mean
[02:33:07] you don't you don't really know right I'm just assuming because I know the team
[02:33:10] well because I watch a lot of their games I know what they like to do what
[02:33:15] are their tendencies but the opponents probably not gonna know it as well and
[02:33:19] it's kind of still all open in there because you can never say that they're
[02:33:23] definitely going to put Tiny in mid right there's always a chance you can
[02:33:26] still switch things around Largo be an off lane or be a support and for now
[02:33:31] Heroic they need to decide where this bad rider is going to go what is the hero
[02:33:36] here. I think quite a bit of reserve time on it too. What do you think they're considering?
[02:33:41] I think they should pick a mid hero. That will work well against Tiny.
[02:33:45] Oh, they're gonna pick the A right away. So bad rider is going to be a call here.
[02:33:49] A is very very good into Laro because it's anti-heal. It's also very good into Tiny.
[02:33:56] It's very very nice against the two opening picks but the three heroes that Heroic have,
[02:34:01] They're very weird together.
[02:34:03] Yeah.
[02:34:04] Yeah, Jack Hero back right, like three range back.
[02:34:06] Yeah, no one's gonna back in front and like slight change or remnant to set up the kill type of thing.
[02:34:11] They need like, they need like amber.
[02:34:13] My amber is like the best it can pick for Heroic in the next, yeah in the next phase.
[02:34:18] So, the recordings are going to be definitely ticking right.
[02:34:21] Are they going to block it by picking it themselves or they're going to happily give it away and pick something that's good into the amber right?
[02:34:29] I was kind of going in a different direction the winter
[02:34:32] I know you said that these three heroes work weirdly together and we were talking so much about Whisper Bat
[02:34:38] but I
[02:34:39] Kind of think that if this tiny goes mid
[02:34:42] Can't you just put the bat on Tai Long mid because in that sense you dodge the lago
[02:34:47] Dispel for at least the early laning stage. Yeah, I mean you definitely can that's something like recognize this
[02:34:52] Constraint right do you actually know that your parents are going to do that? Is that a possibility?
[02:34:58] or you just have to be ready for it in case it happens because you don't know
[02:35:02] where the bad rider is going but if you eliminate the potential of him going off
[02:35:08] like he's actually just going to go mid you're not going to put bad rider on
[02:35:11] carry so they're going to double down with a void time dilation it's a huge
[02:35:14] counter to bad this bad is not going to really have much of a game here I feel
[02:35:19] against the dispel from longer and dilation from the faces void I think
[02:35:23] tiny it's probably still gonna go mid faces what it's going to be there for or
[02:35:29] maybe it's going to be still be affects until the last pick we'll have to see
[02:35:34] what they decide to go for here if they want to keep faces what effects they
[02:35:38] need to what they need to pick the off later here trying to figure out what
[02:35:46] exactly the support so it means that oh no you still could you still could flex
[02:35:53] it because it could be tiny core and hoodwink lago support or it could be tiny core lago core
[02:36:01] faceless void support. The thing is right now the lago can go to any lane. There's so many things
[02:36:08] to dispel. There's napalm, go breath, there's AA and kofi. Everything is good for the lago.
[02:36:14] It can go anywhere. So you have to find a way to keep it open for the lago. The lago can go
[02:36:19] anywhere so I think maybe that that's going to mean that the void is probably
[02:36:23] going to be the the carry hoping and now I'm gonna be the subs
[02:36:28] tiny's gonna be made and now this boot might throw things off balance for
[02:36:33] Reconyx I think the boot is a reaction to the faces what they think that the
[02:36:37] void is going to be a carry so they're trying to use boot to kind of overwhelm
[02:36:41] him in the lane and in the game trying to run him over because they don't really
[02:36:46] have long CD spells right on the Heroic side they can just keep fighting with
[02:36:50] their low CD spells. Ice Blast, Lasso, maybe get some Auras on the Brute or maybe
[02:36:56] it's a carry route actually because it's Yuma so either way this is going to I
[02:37:01] think potentially cause a lot of problems for Reconyx so they have to
[02:37:05] try to figure out how they can actually hold on to the game right maybe they
[02:37:10] feel like they have strong enough lanes to hold them off with the lick on the
[02:37:14] I go countering both side lanes so they can actually get to the late game stage with a carry, Faceless Void.
[02:37:24] I don't go lie to you Winter, I see this heroic brood mother and I'm so scared for Reconyx because
[02:37:29] I feel like Faceless Void is always talked about as this late game monster if you manage to scale there.
[02:37:34] I don't know whether you can fight brood though, brood is so scary.
[02:37:37] Like you don't have, like once brood gets to BKB and maybe like a Skadi, which we've seen Yuma go before,
[02:37:43] for, you just don't have damage on these other heroes to actually deal with him. It has to
[02:37:48] be the Void who almost I feel like hundreds of zeros him in the Chrono. How realistic is
[02:37:54] that really?
[02:37:55] And what do they have to throw into the Chrono? Sharp shooter, the tiny spells not a lot.
[02:38:04] Proc Storm? Copium?
[02:38:05] Yeah if Proc Storm is actually pretty big deal. You ensure that he gets like a full duration
[02:38:10] proc storm, I think you can take full duration damage with the croak is like what 800, 900 damage
[02:38:16] full duration, so yeah it's just not bad you know it's not something to
[02:38:22] underestimate, you can actually die to that. No whether that's going to be the case this game for
[02:38:28] the Yuma brood mother, Kimber saw and Tidehunter being banned some FBZ classics, some good responses
[02:38:34] to the potential brood and lane as well. Yeah, they need damage from FBZ. I think he might
[02:38:40] actually go for some carry here. There's no timber. Underlord actually could maybe be good.
[02:38:49] I feel like he's got Beastmaster here. Underlord is better though. I know he likes to play Beastmaster
[02:38:54] than Underlord. Underlord will provide damage in the chrono and Underlord will buy pipe in his
[02:38:58] AA Jekyll or bad and Underlord will counter the brood with the crimson and the atrophy all
[02:39:03] So I think underlord is probably the best pick here, but maybe they'll pick beast monster because he likes to play beast monster
[02:39:09] Yeah, do you think the primal throws any rocks in the world? So is it just kind of more one?
[02:39:15] Okay, the underlord in fact has more value in supplier because of the root
[02:39:21] I'm not can't really do anything once primal gets BKB though
[02:39:24] You compare that to the wrong you buy pipe. It's okay. You buy pipe. I mean the beast monster is like very slow
[02:39:29] You need to farm so much
[02:39:31] The main thing for me now is like faceless void
[02:39:34] They are clearly just going to burst the target 100 to 0 right? Primal Beast gets BKB blink you jump in you press pulverize
[02:39:40] Yeah, but it doesn't synergize well with the Beastmaster. What are you gonna do with the portal?
[02:39:47] What the hell is this? Lago Offlane?
[02:39:50] Pots 1 Viva
[02:39:51] Mid Tiny
[02:39:53] Viva with Void in the lane
[02:39:55] Yeah, maybe into the offline fat rider, why not?
[02:40:02] Making Buries...
[02:40:03] He's sure is definitely the most unusual of any position 5 players ever in professional
[02:40:12] scene.
[02:40:13] I mean, there's also the fact that this Void is funnily enough a flex paid for both the
[02:40:18] Low and Buries.
[02:40:19] They can play it Paul, they can play it 5, it's not limited to a hero.
[02:40:22] You can see the Reconyx boys, they're having a good laugh.
[02:40:24] They know that they've concocted something funky, something the side of Heroic might
[02:40:28] not have expected.
[02:40:29] And right now you're in a bit of a crunch, right?
[02:40:32] Heroic, if you get your hands on this Weaver, you basically need to burst him 100 to 0 if
[02:40:39] not he's going to run circles around you in the fight.
[02:40:42] I do have to ask though, what's the matchup between Weaver and Brute Mother?
[02:40:46] Who wins out?
[02:40:47] I mean, Brute is going to outskill but a limit game, Weaver is going to take control
[02:40:53] because the other heroes also don't really catch Weaver well.
[02:40:56] Weaver is really good into the Bat, the Jikiro, the AA.
[02:41:00] Even against the Primal because you don't really kill the bug easily as Primal.
[02:41:04] Tech speed is very very slow. So I think the Weaver is not so much
[02:41:08] against the Brute but against everything that Heroic has.
[02:41:11] You know he's hoping that the Void would deal with the Brute later.
[02:41:15] You know and Brute is also very slow. It takes a long time for him to come on 9th.
[02:41:19] So they're looking to just outpace the Heroic side with the Weaver.
[02:41:23] very very fast pace carry we run around with a tiny dagger fdz will provide the auras and yeah
[02:41:30] hopefully they can actually just take control of the full map i'm interested to see what
[02:41:35] Varys is going to do is he going to go for uh the chrono to control hero like boot or is he going
[02:41:42] to go time zone let's see like if he's going time zone and there's nothing there's nothing really
[02:41:46] to throw into the chrono right that's the main oh it's the it's the disable like you need the
[02:41:51] I think it's some games. There's actually value to going Chronosphere even though you're playing a support phases white
[02:41:59] Most most games I agree time zone is good, but some games maybe you can consider Chronosphere
[02:42:07] Probably not this one though
[02:42:09] I don't know I would have definitely considered
[02:42:12] It considered and then decided on time zone anyway because like I would have considered it
[02:42:18] Ask my teammates guys
[02:42:20] should I go Kronos here and then my carry is you better make sure you don't get me in the bubble if you go Kronos here
[02:42:28] and then you think about it for 30 seconds and you think about how mad he's gonna get and then you decide time zone
[02:42:33] yeah they say you know infinite shikuchi infinite bushwag I think you were talking about one of the aspects of time zone
[02:42:40] accelerating the cooldowns of your allies talk about low cooldowns on the side of heroic looks like Reconyx want to match them at that
[02:42:47] that the longest cooldown that you have in the game is probably time zone all the
[02:42:50] sharpshooter that's about it everyone else is just always ready to rumble and
[02:42:56] this is Reconyx debuting this FBZ lago in the previous games that they've played
[02:43:01] it's mostly been on support they've not really shown FBZ's ability to up this
[02:43:07] one out the pocket just yet. There's three runes there getting out clicked
[02:43:13] It's a hero that suits his playstyle, because Largo and Offlane farms a lot.
[02:43:18] I think FBZ's nature is just a carry.
[02:43:20] He's a very very heavy farm Offlane.
[02:43:23] He plays for his own game, he doesn't play for the team much.
[02:43:27] Sometimes he shows up, but most cases he wants to farm there.
[02:43:29] So I think this hero fits his natural playstyle.
[02:43:32] Yeah, the FBZ does stand for farming, for those of you who don't know.
[02:43:36] Since when did you figure that out?
[02:43:39] Was it always the case for FBZ?
[02:43:42] I did the thing where I made it up.
[02:43:44] No, but it was legit right?
[02:43:46] I think at some point, he actually became a very farm heavy player.
[02:43:50] I think he didn't start out as a farm heavy offlaner.
[02:43:54] I wonder what kind of happened.
[02:43:56] Maybe once you get a bit older, you feel a bit more greedy.
[02:43:58] You've given so much to the rest of your teammates, you're like, I've had it.
[02:44:01] There's also a patch where it was really good for the offlanes to farm.
[02:44:04] You know, remember, it was the patch where you could just play like a carry,
[02:44:09] like the Bristol back patch, you know, offlane, Bristol back.
[02:44:12] Yeah, there you go seeing where you just run in
[02:44:16] Sometimes you carry your own carry. I think he really excelled at that meta and once the meta shifted, he kind of didn't change you know
[02:44:24] Early move onto king jungles only so much the brood mother can do one more lick one more auto attack the blood grenades actually
[02:44:30] I should take him out. I must try on the crying blade to try to save him but just
[02:44:33] Yeah, I already taken too much damage. That's the thing with A. I mentioned this the previous game where when you have A and you don't have a stun in the lane
[02:44:39] the hero is going to get bullied you know there was air with our side this this is even worse air with
[02:44:44] boot mother even though the AA is nice into lago in the later parts of the game to deny that healing
[02:44:51] doesn't feel so good early on right all these cold feats are just going to get dispelled you're
[02:44:55] going to give lago that catchy lick hp regen for him to be able to sustain oh you're not even going
[02:45:01] to use that until he uses his lick yeah i mean you might not even level it honestly because it's
[02:45:08] It's not like you have a stun in the lane or a way of proc'ing it anyway
[02:45:10] Yeah, that's true. If you just go for a text and Kofi, ah sorry, a chilling touch
[02:45:15] And in this lane, dilation is going to be so so annoying for the bad rider
[02:45:21] And you are the Jekiro, that's pretty annoying
[02:45:24] I was watching the other stream the like yesterday
[02:45:27] I heard SVG talking about how people are overvaluing this void spirit, uh void spirit, faceless void support
[02:45:34] Because the dilation just isn't as strong as it used to be. What do you think? Do you still think it's good here or do you think it's a bit of a fad?
[02:45:40] It's better for the lane but weaker in the mid game. So I think laning wise is definitely better now, like the early stages.
[02:45:48] Okay.
[02:45:50] Man, I also think that players are also kind of learning how to, or getting better by using the time zone. It's not easy to utilize that spell well because you need a draft that has spells that you can accelerate and cast again in the team fights.
[02:46:03] fights. And it's also something really new that your teammates are not very good at utilizing
[02:46:08] it, right? They're not jumping into the tizer to fight, you know, sometimes because it's
[02:46:12] instinctively wrong. You see a void through his ultimate, you're running away from that
[02:46:15] bubble, you're staying away from that thing, you know, it's kind of just a mindset shift,
[02:46:23] right? Once you understand that the big purple dot means that you should run in instead of
[02:46:27] run away, then it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, but this thing is time and then you give them
[02:46:33] A 1 or 2 people will get used to it, people will be able to abuse it.
[02:46:36] Very very well.
[02:46:37] But right now...
[02:46:38] I mean, recordings have already been practicing this even in the Southeast Asia, close qualifiers and some of the tournaments.
[02:46:42] So, if there's any team that can run this pause-fall for it, it might just be them.
[02:46:46] Bot lane FBZ being run down by the brood, mama.
[02:46:49] They get a lot of pressure.
[02:46:51] So much damage racking up.
[02:46:53] Yuma gets it done.
[02:46:55] Gotta be careful with how you use the boost right in the lane, you know.
[02:46:57] The moment that spell is down, it means the brood has...
[02:46:59] I feel like it's one of his best heroes at probably say like Ursa, Meepo, this is Brute, nice bushwag, now he'll get caught, of course the second I start praising him he goes down.
[02:47:28] Yep, he was low from the previous kill. Not really respecting the damage output coming from the
[02:47:34] the hook wing and lago. Boost Wreck with the Frog Somb, a lot of damage.
[02:47:38] And now I see Tylaan is doing primer base things, always dragging the waves
[02:47:42] into the jungle camps to farm the most efficient way to play Primal.
[02:47:49] Not much you can really do to stop this as well, right? Because if you start to try and connect the waves,
[02:47:54] wait, your dream's done a good job to bring the creeps over, but
[02:47:58] yeah I mean Thailand's just gonna try and you know not let in your dream deny
[02:48:05] anything still kind of getting out efficiency though
[02:48:12] the loans actually coming over maybe they're gonna try and set up for a kill
[02:48:15] Thailand's hiding around the tree line they don't see him yet but they know he's
[02:48:18] gonna pop his head out sooner or later
[02:48:23] maybe the comms are coming through that they don't see this code wing for a bit
[02:48:27] too long as discipline and patience there from tai long
[02:48:37] and if you get away with this as primal this is really really good for our game
[02:48:41] yeah pick up the bounty rune just clear another camp
[02:48:47] six minute runes coming up so this is the time where you definitely want to secure the runes on
[02:48:53] either the Tiny or the Primal. Supports are nowhere to be seen, they are apparently too busy fighting
[02:48:58] their lane so it's going to be a 1 vs 1 draw for the runes in the mid lane. Not something you see too often.
[02:49:04] It's kind of rough though because level 6 already for Tylong but the shield runes snagged up by In-Your-Dream,
[02:49:09] he guesses right and puts himself in a pretty commanding spot even killing the courier of Tylong.
[02:49:18] That's kind of one of the problems of the Weaver right? Even though you are elusive and on paper
[02:49:23] Heroic shouldn't be able to kill you in the lane. You don't have very much sustain
[02:49:27] So all these dual graphs all these little napalms you have sick
[02:49:30] But you're just being harassed down and there's nothing much the void can do for you
[02:49:39] I mean that's the problem with having void as your five you know it doesn't really help the carry the lanes very
[02:49:47] He's very
[02:49:49] dependent on his own you know like usually with weavers you want to have like
[02:49:52] trio protectors, undying, you know those type of you know you have Claude Wul or Tascar so that you
[02:49:57] can enable the weaver to kill heroes in a lane. But with these phases what it doesn't exactly enable
[02:50:02] the weaver to play aggressively because like you said he doesn't give you regen, he doesn't give you
[02:50:07] kill potential because he has no stuns, he has a slow that's about it.
[02:50:14] You see in this lago struggle a little bit in the off lane even though he's got fraud storm
[02:50:18] Nothing really stopping Yuma from coming up to him and denying all those creeps away in between the procs.
[02:50:24] Nice little trample there from Tylong to immediately destroy that.
[02:50:28] Really, and just walk away for free.
[02:50:35] And Talul is really trying hard to disrupt the polling shenanigans of Tylong.
[02:50:39] He just couldn't really get the right connection on the bush red against him.
[02:50:44] He's been trying for the last two minutes also.
[02:50:48] It's not something that's easy in the sliders, right? You can always just press W and suddenly any trees are right.
[02:50:54] You just have to almost position it perfectly, completely out of range of the trample, but still in range to connect the bushwork.
[02:51:01] Yeah, you also have to try your best to be out of vision. If the primer sees you, chances of it succeeding becomes very, very low.
[02:51:09] Yeah.
[02:51:11] Hey, Minnehase rune will go the way of Theolokor, as the duo of Rekonix will position near the
[02:51:17] bot side instead.
[02:51:19] First come on through, steal a little cheeky medium camp stack.
[02:51:22] Nothing crazy.
[02:51:23] Not a lot of action happening in this early game just yet.
[02:51:26] Theolokor will just put some damage out onto the whole league.
[02:51:29] I think the lul is dead.
[02:51:32] Nice recognition there from the jikiro and now they're turning their sights onto Inyo
[02:51:34] Dream.
[02:51:35] connected from out of nowhere blue mothers hungry and this time she'll eat
[02:51:39] some rocks double kill there for the on the call this is a play on heroine that
[02:51:44] is struggling so far but I mean he set everything up there
[02:51:50] Chaleco picks up the haze connects to the board this abuses the liquid frost
[02:51:55] dealing a bunch of damage to the hood wing and the tiny and now I mean we
[02:51:59] suppose gonna get punished because he's left alone here but oh he okay that was
[02:52:04] was so worth. Jigaro used the timetable a lot in the lane to regain some of his health
[02:52:10] so Whisper still knows that he's still on cooldown and he just all in for that kill.
[02:52:17] He didn't really have a choice at that point, it looked like he was going to die so that
[02:52:20] was the best case scenario, the fact that he gets that as well. Makes him work for it
[02:52:25] Two, hookwing had to TP on up there.
[02:52:32] Poo Mother just continuing to have a free time.
[02:52:35] Really nice connection on that play as well.
[02:52:37] You will talk about Theolokor making the most of that haste rune
[02:52:40] would not have been possible without Yuma connecting so quickly as well.
[02:52:45] And this is the benefit of playing on the side of the Poo Mother's map.
[02:52:49] With the spin map, you can just connect to the river very, very easily with this hero.
[02:52:55] I mean this is the reason why I actually really like Groot on Core you know, either Offlane or Stiflaner.
[02:53:00] It enables your team a lot because you control areas, you can connect.
[02:53:04] And the fact that you can send spiders later to Skull as well, very very useful.
[02:53:08] And Tylo, can he get out of this?
[02:53:11] It's gonna be Ice Blaster already, really really nice setup there from Heroic.
[02:53:16] They knew that the team of Reconyx were around the topside area ready to contest.
[02:53:22] So they throw out an Ice Blast, even though Tylen gets initially disabled up, he has all the help in the world and is able to turn around and get that kill.
[02:53:30] Now Thelacore, maybe making some of the mistakes he did the previous time, jumps on forward.
[02:53:36] Average Time Walk though. He doesn't have that available, more and more kills flowing the way of Hiroei as Jikroy trying to respawn.
[02:53:44] One last little bit of HP onto the Jikiro, but it's the AA who goes down first.
[02:53:52] I mean you're starting to see like the weakness of the faces Void and this style of setup.
[02:53:58] You don't provide any stun or slow so you're not really winning the rune fight that easily.
[02:54:03] Whereas A and Jakiro with their spells they have so much damage combined with the primaries
[02:54:07] controlling the heroes.
[02:54:09] You're just going to oblique it wherever you find in the reverse you know.
[02:54:13] So probably Reconyx is going to realize that it's not a good idea for them to contest
[02:54:18] the runes anymore.
[02:54:19] They have to play on the side lanes.
[02:54:22] Can't even really do much with FVZ though.
[02:54:25] He's being run down by the brute mama at the moment.
[02:54:27] Yuma easily side stepping that sharpshooter and will get himself back out to safety.
[02:54:32] This brute mother is farming up a storm already has a yasha.
[02:54:35] My goodness.
[02:54:36] That was a kill if they landed the sharpshooter there.
[02:54:37] That's unfortunate.
[02:54:38] That's a hard one to land isn't it?
[02:54:43] Maybe you need to time the lick along with the sharpshooter.
[02:54:45] That might have had more success.
[02:54:47] And they have time zone now here. Let's see if they can actually set up something.
[02:54:52] I don't know if they've damaged those, they should.
[02:54:54] Sharp shooter, cooldown, 15 seconds. Maybe they're waiting for that.
[02:54:59] They're in the same position to maybe look for the root.
[02:55:02] But whereas Hero 8 are looking for a play once again in the mid section,
[02:55:06] they know that their heroes are way better at fighting around the viewers in the mid area,
[02:55:10] so they're trying to take full advantage of that.
[02:55:13] I don't know those MVCs probably in the area trying to farm up.
[02:55:18] Don't see the fault for now.
[02:55:21] He wants to showcase that new dagger that he's purchased.
[02:55:27] Black Sail a little bit, you know.
[02:55:28] I got my item, you don't.
[02:55:29] Silly little tiny.
[02:55:31] What's in your dream on it?
[02:55:33] He has it coming out in Korea, so good timing for him as well, but Connix might be looking
[02:55:37] for action now that that's available came through the twin gates after not
[02:55:51] finding the brood now they'll all head back through the twin gates the brood
[02:55:54] is showing in the lane FBZ is gonna serve himself up as a bait
[02:55:58] how comes the TP looks like a normal defense for now but here's the wraparound
[02:56:02] Scan comes through, oh heroic, they saw that one coming and the TPs come out, heroic, trying
[02:56:10] to use Theolico as a bait instead, that's the jump in Jekiro in trouble, big pulverize
[02:56:14] onto the Tiny who just revealed his blink, he's going to get busted down, Theolico will
[02:56:19] be the first hero to fall, Tiny able to slip out of trouble and the healing starting to
[02:56:23] rack up for FBZ as Jikroy looking for more, you must bone dry on resources, can't offer
[02:56:27] or anything, and Heroic, their attempt at baiting in Reconyx might end up with them
[02:56:32] going down instead.
[02:56:33] And I toss away Tylong, still getting caught by the bushmack, and the lul makes it count
[02:56:38] this time.
[02:56:39] Tylong trying to escape away into the trees, the onslaught still there.
[02:56:42] They can't keep the chase going, they need one more blink, but Tylong, he's away.
[02:56:46] Problem is, he doesn't have a TP, but I don't think Reconyx noted that.
[02:56:50] Because of it, the Primal Beast will survive, so Heroic, cutting their losses after that
[02:56:55] initial failed exchange. That is very very lucky for the primer to be able to survive.
[02:57:00] Somehow I think they lost vision on him so they couldn't see which direction he went after the
[02:57:05] bush wreck and he managed to escape. I was really really fortunate for Tai Long there.
[02:57:15] Just a bit odd because I think the bush white actually pushed him to a side of the trees that
[02:57:20] the hoodwing didn't have vision. So the hoodwing had to walk around that tree line just to regain
[02:57:25] the vision and at that point he'd already onslaught away. Speaking of onslaught, Tylong finding a
[02:57:31] solo kill onto Jigroy sticking around a bit too long farming.
[02:57:39] Not what you want to see from your carry players. 3k gold lead for Heroic.
[02:57:43] Sure they might have lost that bot engagement but as you can see in the net worth,
[02:57:47] top three cores still all on the side of Heroic. The only cores doing the only core things just
[02:57:52] liquid firing down these towers only one tier one remains in the bot lane as now Whisper can
[02:57:57] confidently take away that ancient camp that you always like to say it's ever so important winter.
[02:58:03] Four ancient camps on the map gotta make sure you at least control two
[02:58:07] and here it has three right now actually they have two the uh three sorry yeah they have three
[02:58:13] Reconyx on their hand they only have one you know so they are the ones taking a very bad
[02:58:16] trade on the map right now. They have to find a way to regain one extra camp on the bottom
[02:58:22] area. But Brood is not going to be an easy target to find here.
[02:58:26] FBZ still struggling his way towards that agonims. The farm speed is going to accelerate
[02:58:31] for him once he has that item. But until that point, still very much stunted. Just relying
[02:58:37] fully on the Frog Stomp.
[02:58:39] Okay, about setting up onto Yuma. Yuma is just going to walk out of the time zone with ease
[02:58:43] So, there comes the Frog Storm, Primal Beast on the backline to interrupt.
[02:58:47] They row it, they were ready for this play.
[02:58:49] Out comes the Ice Blast onto FBZ.
[02:58:51] Yuma's hungry and looking to eat them alive, still staying up and running.
[02:58:55] Life-stealing away onto in your dream Reconyx.
[02:58:58] Bite off a bit more than they can chew and Yuma bites off exactly what he can stomach.
[02:59:04] I mean, so the problem with all these moves going badly for Reconyx is like, there's no
[02:59:09] one to clear the midway, you know?
[02:59:10] If you look at their heroes, Tiny is clearing the mid wave, so he's running over after clearing the mid wave.
[02:59:16] So he's always late to the fights, and they need the Tiny here as soon as they jump in with the time zone, they have to follow up with the Abba and Toss.
[02:59:24] But because they can't, they don't have the Tiny right away, they took a really bad fight, and they all snowball out of control.
[02:59:31] Because no one else can stand on the mid lane to clear the wave.
[02:59:37] away. So Tiny has to always be there and that's causing them a lot of problems.
[02:59:42] Association on to Jekroy. Timelapse was used and the lasso will finish him off.
[02:59:47] Rowe able to just slip in and out and keep getting these pick offs and like you
[02:59:52] said the Tiny he was on time at least this time around but he can't respond
[02:59:57] to everything. He'll try and finish off Ty Lung but now slow to a crawl. This is
[03:00:01] not a good look. Ty Lung is dominating and Reconyx they just have nothing
[03:00:07] they can do, as all three of their calls drop on three corners of the map.
[03:00:13] This is looking really really rough for them right now.
[03:00:15] The Weaver doesn't have much of a farm to showcase in this game.
[03:00:20] Tiny is always not really in the fights when they need to.
[03:00:25] They need to smoke with him, but he always feels like he has somewhere else he needs to go first before they smoke.
[03:00:30] The two supports can't really do anything without him.
[03:00:33] And with Lago, they can't really walk with the Lago, so the support you see right now
[03:00:38] Varys decides that he should be the one pushing out the midway, but he can't.
[03:00:41] What can he do as Klayne's Void?
[03:00:46] And the answer seems to be absolutely nothing. Even the start of that fight, the time zone was a bit off the mark.
[03:00:52] Nothing stopping Yuma from just walking on out of it.
[03:00:56] Tiny was there for sure to maybe toss the Broodmother back into that ultimate.
[03:01:00] might have been a different story but it goes back to kind of what you were
[03:01:04] saying maybe Reconyx even though they've practiced his faces for it with the
[03:01:07] time zone you're still not really seeing their heroes run in to accelerate their
[03:01:12] cooldowns we've not seen double combo from the tiny or maybe even a second
[03:01:16] bush whack immediately after the first jikro is barely connecting to these
[03:01:20] fights as well this weaver has not had the time of day just like that heroic
[03:01:24] they should be able to just walk into the pit
[03:01:30] I reckon they need to try and do something. They can't just give the rush for free.
[03:01:35] They're gonna try and set up.
[03:01:36] High Long, on out by stun, bears a nice time zone.
[03:01:39] In your dream is in trouble though. They trade up the mid laner for the opponent position 5.
[03:01:44] That's not worth it at all.
[03:01:45] FBZ finally joins in but he's a bit too late to the party.
[03:01:49] As is Fresh X but he'll just TP to the bot lane to farm as the conics realise they can't contest.
[03:01:57] I mean, the long contest is for what it means that they're not gonna be able to do much in the game anymore.
[03:02:02] With the Aegis at hand, you have to dodge.
[03:02:04] And what are you exactly dodging and farming for? You don't really have better scaling on your heroes.
[03:02:10] Weaver doesn't really match up well into the boot later in the game, even with a Largo popping move.
[03:02:16] So like, what is the plan, you know? Like, I don't see like a way out for their lineup if they go into late game against what Heroic has.
[03:02:27] It's just weird, right? When we saw the Largo pick up, we were talking about how this bad
[03:02:31] riders countered instead the Largos now in the off lane. You have a Weaver and a
[03:02:36] Faceless Void in the safe lane that end up getting crushed by this bad Jekiro duo.
[03:02:41] Nothing much the Weaver can actually do. And it's just been such a quiet showing from Jekiroi so far
[03:02:48] as to immediately time-lapse just to escape the brood with a freshly picked up Orchid.
[03:02:52] So I guess you're right, yeah, all they can do is dodge and all they can do is maybe try and
[03:02:56] set up on the sidelines but you're at the point with Tylong where you have a BKB
[03:03:00] so even if you get a time zone on to him, I don't think you're bursting him down.
[03:03:14] Man, you gotta hope for some miracle toss backs and pick off here. At this point,
[03:03:18] any direct fight outside of the map would just result in a teamfight victory for Heroic and
[03:03:24] and now they're gonna get the shot onto Teriyaki, so it's gonna even give him more damage
[03:03:30] with his liquid frost plus liquid fire onto your heroes.
[03:03:35] It's gonna be really tough, imagine having to split the map against a primal and bad rider
[03:03:41] plus a global ice blast coming in anytime.
[03:03:44] It is so difficult to shove the waves out.
[03:03:50] on the bright side, they do have Frogstorm, you know, so the Lava can kind of push ways
[03:03:53] without showing his hero.
[03:03:56] Yeah, the tiny is going to just use his tools to clear out the melee, but now he's caught.
[03:04:01] It's so easy for them to pick up these kills, Heroic. Everywhere they go,
[03:04:06] more and more bodies falling. 15k gold lead already at the 21 minute mark, Heroic.
[03:04:12] One of the styles that they've shown us in this tournament is their ability to just snowball
[03:04:16] games completely out of control. And if they're not throwing on the high ground or some of
[03:04:22] these important fights, sometimes it feels like exactly what you said, these unwinnable
[03:04:28] situations that Rekonix find themselves in. As TP out from FBZ, he'll save himself at
[03:04:33] least this time. Tylong's just waiting to use that AD movement.
[03:04:40] There's not much Reconyx can do to respond to this aggression that Hero X bring on.
[03:04:51] They can only sit and watch and try to get something off the map, you know, across the
[03:04:57] far corners.
[03:05:00] They won't be able to defend the towers, they won't be able to hold any of their ancients,
[03:05:03] and this is like despair mode, you know, for Reconyx.
[03:05:05] You see like the faces white in the enemy triangle.
[03:05:08] The rule is farming in the enemy jungle and on the bottom section of the map, like, there's nothing they can do here.
[03:05:15] On the bright side, he does get two shrines of wisdoms. That's something, I guess, in this otherwise miserable game.
[03:05:23] Doesn't really feel like there's anything that's stopping Heroic from reaching this high ground.
[03:05:27] The backup of the Jikiro, Yuma can just siege.
[03:05:30] And all you have is these repeated pauses from InyoDream to try and chip at the HP.
[03:05:35] hey you must like stop stop that that's not very nice all kids him this is the
[03:05:43] problem of like doing a jack hero when you lost the early game you're gonna lose
[03:05:47] all your towers very very quickly talk about the brute mother being more of a
[03:05:54] scaling hero maybe being a bit greedy but you must shows that he can play fast
[03:05:58] he can be at your door 22 minutes into the game that's gonna be the first lane
[03:06:03] of Rage going down with not much of a response here from Reconyx. Looks like they're trying
[03:06:08] for some sort of wraparound. They see Tylong in the bot lane. They might be able to catch
[03:06:13] the back line. Things come out onto King Jungle's location. They see him. That's an
[03:06:18] AA there. They only call Whisper and Yuma. They need to make a decision as to whether
[03:06:22] they want to stick around. Varige is easily picked off and Tylong gets a solo kill of
[03:06:27] the Jekoroy. That's not what Reconyx wanted at all. Buyback on the void but it comes out
[03:06:31] too late a time zone should have been casted 30 seconds ago before you got
[03:06:35] silence before your tiny died an FBZ finally the time zone comes out for
[03:06:40] Reconyx but silenced up is the fraud no songs for you not a word as heroic will
[03:06:45] munch you down on the spider and dispel it all you want that's four kills the
[03:06:51] only member remaining is Verazion G.G. he's called he just stands his ground he
[03:06:54] knows a very unfortunate showing here from the Southeast Asian side as
[03:07:00] as heroic continue their momentum.
[03:07:03] It doesn't matter that they threw a couple of the games yesterday,
[03:07:06] they are ready to close things out here on day 3 of the group stage.
[03:07:09] You can see KJ not a single emotion on that man's face.
[03:07:13] It's just back to business as usual.
[03:07:14] I think he understands how important today is going to be for them.
[03:07:18] And it's just about securing their spot in the middle of the pack.
[03:07:24] They don't seem particularly happy.
[03:07:25] I mean, that game,
[03:07:26] they don't really seem like it made them sweat in the slightest so heroic fans
[03:07:31] SA fans at least something to be pleased about even if KJ isn't
[03:07:35] for the Southeast Asian fans just continued despair and misery unfortunately
[03:07:42] yeah I think they just didn't really account for the lanes going that badly
[03:07:46] like that's something that you don't expect to say from SA to be come from
[03:07:51] we are a region where the lane is something that we prioritize a lot but
[03:07:55] But somehow in this game, Reconyx felt like they could maybe get away a lot more with the Weaver plus Spacesboy lanes.
[03:08:01] And maybe they would be able to use the Weaver to activate the other calls, you know.
[03:08:06] But that just didn't really happen. G-Gloyke got pressured so much in the lane.
[03:08:10] Like you said, the chip damage from Jekiro and Batrider, they just constantly threw spells at the Weaver.
[03:08:15] He didn't really have enough sustain in the lane to actually sit in the lane and farm.
[03:08:19] And hence, he had a really, really tough lane phase. He couldn't really move around much.
[03:08:23] And that was the hero that needed to play with the Tiny right because Largo doesn't really move
[03:08:28] around too much. He is going to sit in the lane from his aggonyms and he's not really going to
[03:08:32] be useful until that point maybe post 15 minutes you know. So they didn't really have anyone to
[03:08:36] play with and on top of that I think the serious the other serious problem is not having a hero
[03:08:40] to sit in the mid lane to clear out the wave because you have Phaz's Void and Hoadwing.
[03:08:44] They are both heroes that cannot do that and they only had Tiny to sit there and clear out the wave
[03:08:51] But when Tiny is pushing out the mid wave, who is setting the yanks on the sidelines?
[03:08:56] Not the Viva, not the Largo, not the supports, so they just couldn't really do much in the game.
[03:09:02] Yeah, the draft looked pretty decent, looked like we were going to see a different record,
[03:09:06] but unfortunately many questions left for them to be answered as they continue
[03:09:10] losing out on these best of ones.
[03:09:12] Speaking of best of ones, we have another one for you, coming up, it's Mouse vs Yandex.
[03:09:16] Stay tuned.
[03:13:51] I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to my room and see what I can do.
[03:14:01] I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to my room and see what I can do.
[03:14:11] I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to my room and see what I can do.
[03:14:21] I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to my room and see what I can do.
[03:16:01] Day 3 of BLAST Slam 6's group stage continues here with very, very crucial matches, especially
[03:16:09] for Miles. If they want to turn their fate around, they're gonna have to start here.
[03:16:13] No more second chances. Down to 2 and 6, they need to try and slither their way out of these
[03:16:20] last chance play-offs. But the results, I mean, they haven't really looked too promising
[03:16:26] for these boys at the moment, Winter.
[03:16:28] yeah they just don't really understand what they need to do as a team especially
[03:16:33] the heroes you know what they need to pick to enable each other I think a lot
[03:16:37] of the heroes that they were really good at before they got nerfed and I think the
[03:16:41] salary hero is actually perhaps the most crucial one like whatever damage plays
[03:16:46] I think it might not actually matter so much if salary is given like the right
[03:16:52] here I think he needs to play like some sort of like power pressure hero I think
[03:16:57] he showed that he can play Pugna, not sure why they went away from it. Like he has some
[03:17:01] games on Snapfire that was actually kind of okay but I remember the one game that we saw
[03:17:08] him play Snapfire, it was against a Weaver and I remember I mentioned I preferred him
[03:17:12] playing Disruptor that game you know but I think he doesn't want to play that hero so
[03:17:16] they have to kind of figure out the setup you know if Celery is playing a no catch hero,
[03:17:21] Boom has to be on a maybe example of Marsh you know so that they have catch for specific
[03:17:26] heroes, you know. And those are the things they have to figure out as soon as possible.
[03:17:31] Yeah, I agree. I think the salary hero, we were looking very much at mid-one, Yarmitch,
[03:17:36] that partnership and how they can keep up with the times there. But really, it seems
[03:17:39] to be salary that has a bit more of a limitation. The only two games that Miles have won so
[03:17:45] far have been on the Pugna and won on the Chen. So those are the heroes that salary
[03:17:50] has been known for. But other than that, he seems to be struggling to find other heroes
[03:17:54] have that same level of impact. Meanwhile, Yandex, even though they did suffer some losses early on,
[03:18:00] very much stabilizing now. They found their identity, they found how to connect and I think,
[03:18:06] especially in that previous game, they looked pretty solid, right? They were bringing all these
[03:18:12] heroes into the mid lane, not allowing Liquid to even play off of their strong points and pressure
[03:18:17] points. I feel like Yandex are going to find themselves in a very good spot to potentially
[03:18:23] Vi for the 75 no spot.
[03:18:26] Yeah, this Underlord seems like a very very good hero for Gendax here.
[03:18:31] Their position 5 also shares quite a bit of similar heroes with Celery.
[03:18:35] So it's gonna even make it more difficult for Celery to like pick a hero, you know.
[03:18:40] I think Melody has a wider pool because he has Trim Protector.
[03:18:44] Celery doesn't, he can't play the hero. I don't think he will play the hero.
[03:18:47] So they are going to have to ban Trim. Both teams are going to perhaps want to get Chen.
[03:18:52] So it will come down to who is first pick. The second pick team is probably gonna want to ban it
[03:18:58] So yeah, I think looking at the position 5 hero pool
[03:19:02] It's definitely gonna be in favor of Yandex and that could be a very very big deal in the draft
[03:19:07] You know for them, you know, and they are also willing to play the underlord as an early pick
[03:19:12] So those are the things that
[03:19:14] Mouths have to pick out. Do we actually give it to them or do we have some kind of answers for them?
[03:19:18] You know, they have to really make sure that whenever Yandex does that they pick the off lane early on. They have to give crystallize a very very good
[03:19:26] Start in the lane, you know, that's why the celery here is so crucial because how much does crystallize get in the lane?
[03:19:32] It's so dependent on what is the position 5 hero if they don't have a good post 5 hero
[03:19:37] Say he wants to play the SF and they don't have something like a melee hero in the lane
[03:19:41] That's going to prove to be a big problem in the draft
[03:19:44] You know, I think salary at least he has to have a mini hero, which is I think undying undying is probably the most suitable man here for him
[03:19:52] You know, they have to be willing to go down those rocks to stabilize the draft and to make sure that they have a safe carry
[03:19:59] Landing face in the first 10 minutes, you know, otherwise the game is going to be very difficult
[03:20:04] Yeah, it's all about just setting them up for success here setting the cause up for success
[03:20:09] Let's see whether the supports on Maus are able to do that as we are gearing up for a draw very shortly
[03:20:14] And you were asking who has first pick, Yandex actually received priority in this matchup
[03:20:18] So they have opted for first pick themselves, which is going to be
[03:20:23] Pretty nice, right? That basically forces Maus who picked Radiant to ban out all these melody heroes
[03:20:30] But then if you're banning out the melody heroes, if you're banning out supports
[03:20:34] Then that just opens up the path for maybe Yandex to again
[03:20:38] that underlaw really early on. It's going to be something that's very very difficult for
[03:20:45] Miles to decide what to do. I think they're gonna probably have to ban out
[03:20:49] all those 3 MPH heroes since Yandex is on the first pick side and then they
[03:20:55] have to figure out what to do. I think they're probably gonna see Sere play
[03:20:59] some Pugna. I think very likely he will play Pugna this game and they need, I think they
[03:21:04] need Chrysalis to play a melee hero like Ursa. I think Ursa would be a good option because
[03:21:10] it kind of counteracts the Underlord that Yandex is doing. So maybe that could be a
[03:21:16] definite option for them. And since they are first pick right, so they are not going to
[03:21:20] first pick Underlord. If they are going to pick Underlord, it's going to be in the second
[03:21:23] phase. So the other option would be go Jack Hero on salary. Then you secure the lane and
[03:21:30] and you can also potentially bully the Underlord
[03:21:34] or at least dissuade them from picking Underlord, you know?
[03:21:36] So I think those are the options that I would be considering if I mouse right now
[03:21:40] because the pause 5 hero is the critical pick for mouse to ensure that they have a good setup for the draft.
[03:21:46] I see the two pause 5s on your screen, Celery had to excuse himself, a little bit of a sneeze there.
[03:21:52] You'll see what these teams end up with.
[03:21:53] Yandex not going to likely want to give mouse the option of the Chen.
[03:21:58] No surprise to see it banned out the Hasuka respected as well.
[03:22:01] Miles opting to ban out what I feel like are the classic first-faced bans at this point.
[03:22:06] Nobody really wants to give over the Viper or the Razor.
[03:22:10] Fan Protector, Shadow Demon, Timbersaw.
[03:22:12] All still in the pool, you could start with a Tiny, you could go to the Bat, you could go to the Brew.
[03:22:16] A lot of options still left in the pool.
[03:22:19] This is the draft opening that everybody loves.
[03:22:22] All the disgusting, scamming, cheesy, dirty heroes being banned right away.
[03:22:28] The Husker, the Viper, the Razor all out of the game.
[03:22:33] They can rejoice, right?
[03:22:34] We're gonna see a normal Dota game.
[03:22:36] I don't think so.
[03:22:37] I'm not gonna be grand.
[03:22:38] I don't think so.
[03:22:39] What we see from mouse so far?
[03:22:41] I mean, we watched the previous game.
[03:22:43] That was pause 5, Husker.
[03:22:44] Okay, I don't think the surprises are overdue.
[03:22:47] We won't see it anymore.
[03:22:48] It's bad.
[03:22:48] Relax.
[03:22:50] And before Celery picks some other...
[03:22:52] He's going to play Puck now.
[03:22:55] Or I'm dying.
[03:22:56] I'm pretty sure.
[03:22:57] Okay, they're banning us so it means they're gonna what the hell they're gonna first speak on the Lord here. Oh
[03:23:03] Shit, I think they're first speaking under that's what I'm saying. Don't believe me. I'm telling you
[03:23:08] I think yeah, I think this is not the Lord is just go to because it allows notice to play his greedy style
[03:23:13] But connect at a moment's notice into any fight
[03:23:17] This is a big headache. That's trim collector open mouse doesn't want trim collector and yeah, that's that's what I speak
[03:23:22] So they also have to ban the trim collector
[03:23:25] the shadow demon, they ban the jikiro, yeah next they have the option of trian first for
[03:23:33] malady or they don't have to go into this under lord, they don't have to take the trian
[03:23:36] because maus doesn't play trian, they can just pick the under lord, they pick the under lord
[03:23:41] then maybe maus bans trian afterwards right, so it just depends on what you want, one
[03:23:45] of those things are gonna get banned you know whatever you know, and it's not us so the
[03:23:51] next best thing against underlod is Monkey King. You play it though. Look at who they
[03:24:00] have on the team. Of course they play it. My bad sorry. Sorry about that. Sorry about
[03:24:04] my apology. Crystallis is the best Monkey King player ever to exist on this planet.
[03:24:11] Wow. You gonna pick it you reckon? I think he should.
[03:24:19] like nine pig monkey?
[03:24:21] Okay. I actually think it's okay.
[03:24:25] I picked the Timber and said Timber is also kind of a counter to the Underlord because
[03:24:29] of the going death.
[03:24:31] And you're going to force him to buy BKB on Underlord, which is not something you want
[03:24:35] to do. Lotus Orb usually doesn't cut it so you need to get BKB.
[03:24:39] Can't the Underlord be quite difficult for the Timber to deal with as well?
[03:24:43] Yeah, it's a two-way thing.
[03:24:47] The root is very good against Timber as well and the firestorm also really good against Timber.
[03:24:53] Timber is a hero that I think we briefly talked about this.
[03:24:57] When was it last week?
[03:24:59] Timber is the counter to the aura meta because you're pure damage so you don't care about crimson or pipe.
[03:25:05] You just cut through all the auras.
[03:25:08] Pretty good initial response here from Miles. Let's see what else they want for themselves here.
[03:25:12] into second phase, then Yannick's just trying to figure out, okay, how do we protect this
[03:25:19] underlog fully?
[03:25:20] Is there anything else that Miles could bring out on the pause one?
[03:25:23] They're actually banning the Trion.
[03:25:26] Okay.
[03:25:27] I guess they don't want to play, or at least maybe Melody is feeling like he doesn't want
[03:25:30] to play into the Trion.
[03:25:31] He doesn't want to play Trion into Timber, and he doesn't want to worry about the enemy
[03:25:35] picking Timber, the Trion.
[03:25:37] So yeah, okay, I think it also checks out the logic.
[03:25:42] Even though you said that,
[03:25:44] I don't think they will pick it up.
[03:25:46] I just feel like it's not their type of hero.
[03:25:48] After what happened, the first time they pick it here,
[03:25:51] it just shows that Celery doesn't feel comfortable playing the hero.
[03:25:55] He doesn't understand how to play the hero too.
[03:25:58] At least 80% capacity.
[03:26:00] I mean, the thing is that's specifically your perspective, right?
[03:26:05] Maybe Mao still thinks Celery is actually the most go-to champion protector of all time.
[03:26:09] He just had a bad game.
[03:26:11] Tell you, if that was so obvious in the game that he can't play the hero, I'm sure the players would know also.
[03:26:17] They just, maybe they just feel like it might be too hard for them to deal with a Trident plus Timber together.
[03:26:23] Because Trident and Timber on the same team can actually pose a lot of problems.
[03:26:27] Trident is really good with Timber.
[03:26:28] He set up for him to just land all his spells, so it's actually very, very good duo together.
[03:26:33] So maybe they feel, even if he sucks at the hero, it's too simple of a combination to play for them to even make it work, you know?
[03:26:40] Also, I don't think as much as you like to tell me about how Triant is a specialist pick,
[03:26:45] he's just overall a pretty strong hero. If you have a good setup, you've got a good lane,
[03:26:50] he can act as an Origa.
[03:26:52] Best postcard hero in my opinion.
[03:26:53] Exactly. So it's like, yeah, you might be playing it at 70-80% but maybe that's still
[03:26:59] marginally better than a postcard for instance.
[03:27:03] You got me, right? You know how to get me.
[03:27:06] I mean, the alternative didn't look too hot. You know what I'm saying?
[03:27:09] Like, I just, you're like, I get that you had your criticisms about Celery,
[03:27:15] and I think understandably so.
[03:27:16] I'm sure everybody watching the game that he played Trian, you know,
[03:27:19] like, where's the shard, brother? But at this point, apart from the Chen
[03:27:23] that's already banned and maybe like a partner that's going to come out
[03:27:26] that I feel like doesn't look the best into Underlord,
[03:27:30] it really is this Pulse 5 Hero that is a big question mark for Maus.
[03:27:33] I wonder what the answer is going to be for them into Yandex.
[03:27:36] He's going to play Sapphire this game.
[03:27:38] Because Sapphire will allow you to actually burst the Underlord in the teamfights.
[03:27:48] Pogna kind of doesn't have that burst against Underlord.
[03:27:51] I mean, it's good with the Timber because you can keep him alive.
[03:27:54] Okay, they go with the Pogna.
[03:27:56] I really suspect that he might just go back to this hero.
[03:27:59] see he is picking really hard to figure out what hero he can pick here. I think
[03:28:04] Monkey King is definitely still a consideration against his underdog, they
[03:28:08] just don't want to show it so early but I don't think they will get it in the
[03:28:12] last pick if it's such a good pick you know so if they want to pick it they
[03:28:15] might have to just pick it in the next phase because mid one also plays
[03:28:18] Monkey King so maybe it could serve as a effects pick you know for them.
[03:28:25] What comes to Saksa Shaman and the Watson TA?
[03:28:29] TA is a Pugna counter and a Timber counter.
[03:28:34] Very very good pick here.
[03:28:36] It's very good into Timber and the lane.
[03:28:38] You can reduce his armor, you can kick him out of the lane and sideblades allows you
[03:28:43] to cut through the crab and the shark on TA allows you to stop the heals from the Pugna
[03:28:49] coming out in the soul.
[03:28:50] All in all, this is a very very good pick here.
[03:28:52] This is one of the better lanes for TA to perform.
[03:28:55] And Yandex is getting all their signatures here, but it does open up Maus for an opportunity
[03:29:00] now to pick the Crystallis hero that not only lanes well into this duo, but also can win
[03:29:05] the carry matchup.
[03:29:06] Does that hero exist?
[03:29:07] He's still monkey king.
[03:29:08] Oh, monkey king is good into TA you think?
[03:29:11] I think it's quite good.
[03:29:12] In the team fights, it just enables the overall lineup.
[03:29:19] plus maybe like a tusk you know I think that would be actually really good so the
[03:29:23] tusk can actually go to the monkey king's limb to keep repeatedly kill off the
[03:29:26] underlock and you just let the timber suffer alone in silence against the TA
[03:29:30] yeah that's the boom classic right there nothing much you can do about that as we
[03:29:35] like to joke about contractually obligated to be in plane while Yamich runs
[03:29:39] around and makes things happen they go for the lion instead
[03:29:42] where is the tusk okay lion is good with timber very good in the timber
[03:29:46] Timberbond stuns and they don't really have a lot of stuns. Timber loves a ranged hero with set up,
[03:29:53] but you know me and you know my opinions about Lion. I don't really fancy the hero too much because
[03:30:00] he's very very easily punished in the early game. He's a very big hero in the lane. Needs a lot of
[03:30:07] farm, needs a lot of levels. The lane doesn't go well for Lion. You could often find this hero
[03:30:13] struggling in terms of levels.
[03:30:15] What's the game plan here for the Lion?
[03:30:17] Because whenever I see a Lion, I think about a hero that wants to stick around in the lane for maybe
[03:30:21] four to five minutes, take some of that EXP, fight with the off laner,
[03:30:26] try and win that 2v2.
[03:30:28] But Timbersaw kind of gives me the opposite vibe, right?
[03:30:31] Timbersaw wants to be left to his own devices after a certain point.
[03:30:34] Just to get that solo EXP.
[03:30:36] Is it because they're worried that the TA is too strong of a matchup so they won't play the 2v2?
[03:30:40] It's precisely that's why I feel like they want to, it's better to have a task, you know,
[03:30:43] because you want to leave the timber.
[03:30:45] Lion implies you want to sit in the lane and play with the lane, play the lane with the
[03:30:49] timber for extended amount of time.
[03:30:50] And I'm not sure if that's going to work out well for you.
[03:30:55] Because Yandex sees the lanes have timber lines so they can pick a proper position 5
[03:31:00] here.
[03:31:01] I'm sure they're not going to do it here.
[03:31:02] They'll pick it last.
[03:31:03] They'll pick the mid laner first.
[03:31:04] And then they ensure that the TA will be able to handle the lion and timber.
[03:31:07] So mid laners, they need something that can actually lane.
[03:31:10] into monkey just in case the monkey is made here just in case any any spirit
[03:31:18] hero would be good here storm and monkey I mean it's actually okay yeah maybe not
[03:31:26] so good into monkey the especially the ember but storm is okay so we can lean
[03:31:30] to him the monkey because I was also considering the fact that you need
[03:31:33] someone to jump and kill the partner in the team fights as I was thinking about
[03:31:37] Stomp. Slotter on the other hand is kind of like more enabling the TA because you have this humongous amount of minus armor that allows you to kill heroes quickly
[03:31:46] and bypass all the auras if they build auras on the mouse side and it's also very very good against the monkey king because monkey king has no armor initially so Slotter is a very good hero against him
[03:31:58] And you do have the d-crap which is kind of annoying for the slaughter
[03:32:03] But I think he should be able to play around it because of the TA
[03:32:07] You can hit through the side blades and you have underlawed with the magic damage. So maybe it'll be fine
[03:32:16] The mouse needs to ban out the potential
[03:32:19] big teamfight pause fight heroes so they remove the warlock
[03:32:22] there is still undying and there is still phoenix there is still
[03:32:27] disruptor this are the few big ones that come to mind right now they're all
[03:32:33] really good for the next time I don't think you can ban anything there's so
[03:32:38] many heroes humanity is like smiling because he knows ah I have so many
[03:32:43] options here guys the world is my oyster and this also feels like a really
[03:32:50] concrete Yandex draft where they have all their favorite heroes whatever
[03:32:56] melody picks at the end it won't throw things off too much just looks like what
[03:33:01] Yandex has it's solid what about Miles though you said you didn't really like
[03:33:04] the lion but the monkey king was kind of their trump card here they banned out
[03:33:08] the tusk last so they're worried about that pos five tusk along with the TA
[03:33:11] really solid combo what's mid one gonna pick you reckon into this slada
[03:33:20] I think we're gonna see this pick come out real soon.
[03:33:44] But for now, yeah, next I have to decide.
[03:33:46] We go to the clockwork.
[03:33:47] So a bodyguard for the key in lane, some additional forms of initiation and a good way of catching
[03:33:53] out the backline casting supports.
[03:33:55] Yeah, very good against the Parkman and the Lion.
[03:33:58] Also kind of nice against the Timberlater, with the battery herself and the mana burn
[03:34:03] from the Cogs.
[03:34:04] And you can also catch the Monkey King, it's actually a pretty smart pick.
[03:34:08] I didn't really consider this hero just now.
[03:34:10] Now that I see it, I can see why it's really strong.
[03:34:12] It's very good with the Shaman.
[03:34:14] support duo clock and shaman. It's kind of good with the stardust also because you sometimes
[03:34:20] need another follow up when you jump in with the stardust. So they are going to go for
[03:34:24] the storm or mouse. Storm against stardust or a very good lay matchup for the storm.
[03:34:32] But is it going to be enough? They have to play such a fast pace game with the monkey
[03:34:37] king storm timber trio of course and then you have to poke them to kind of be your gas
[03:34:41] station and to top you guys up and keep continuously fighting but they're not
[03:34:46] going to be fighting against a weak lineup from Yandex right? Their lineup is very
[03:34:49] very strong quickly. With the Slara, the TA minus armor, you have a lot of control
[03:34:54] from the supports, the clock, the shaman and you're also going to have Oras right
[03:34:58] on the underlord. So this is going to be really really tough. It's such a great
[03:35:02] pipe game for the underlord. Blocking out the Pugna, the Lion and the Storm damage.
[03:35:07] Also not the easiest storm game to deal with. You got the instant hex
[03:35:11] potential as well as the pit and mid one is going to have to do a lot of work but he's
[03:35:15] got the gas station duo, the double suckers as I like to call them.
[03:35:19] The pit is actually tough but yeah like you said he has HP from Puckner, his mana from
[03:35:24] Lyon so this is kind of like the perfect like storm you know for mid one here and he's
[03:35:31] going to have to do a lot you know in some like in some of their games you know if they
[03:35:35] want to win, mid one has to pop off, he has to do everything, take the runes, gank the
[03:35:41] side lanes, make plays, carry the game, everything you know but he has like a
[03:35:46] pretty good setup not just from the supports I think from the monkey king
[03:35:49] monkey king is a carry that can allow the mid laner to succeed you can always
[03:35:53] connect over you can always join him to enable his game and Timber is going to
[03:35:59] be the main anchor on the map where the storm and monkey king are going to
[03:36:02] rotate to you know so all three cores I think they have a lot of synergy within
[03:36:06] each other the main question is can they get off the landing phase with a good start you know can
[03:36:12] they snowball can they actually just rotate around after the landing phase and just make sure that
[03:36:19] they take over the map you know with the partner if they can actually do that take all the outer tier
[03:36:23] one towers control the map and the T and Sala can't get roged or tormented that will be a very
[03:36:30] very, very big determinant to the Yandex side.
[03:36:35] You'll see whether they are able to enable mid one, a lot of weight on his shoulders
[03:36:39] as per usual.
[03:36:40] That seems to be the trend for Maus, and it's good to see at least from the player cams
[03:36:44] that Maus are still in good spirits, right?
[03:36:46] Because some of the ways that they lost their previous games, not really the most fun.
[03:36:50] I'd be a bit sour, but they've had some time to reset, maybe go over what went wrong in
[03:36:55] the previous bouts, and hopefully they can start to come back here.
[03:36:59] wanting to live up to the results that they had in the previous slams, making it to the land stages.
[03:37:14] Singapore and Chengdu Malta would be a nice little, make it a triple moment, but it smokes from both sides.
[03:37:25] This stuff death from Mr. Lion here
[03:37:31] What's that about
[03:37:33] Need a skill
[03:37:35] Get more stacks of the the finger of death right right. Okay. I should think this this vessel is actually
[03:37:42] better
[03:37:44] It's the other one is like whatever right? Hey, it's like maybe some games if you have some
[03:37:49] Illusion here or whatever. You know, it's a good manager game
[03:37:51] you can consider that but I think in general this vessel is better the piece of that you can farm after you get a kill
[03:37:57] And you can get more stacks when you use skill much much better with this vessel
[03:38:03] Going from scaling at the cost of the ranged attack
[03:38:09] Gonna be three no two for two okay. Oh, no he missed the block he came all the way back
[03:38:17] And we we can see him missing the block. Oh, this is actually so that
[03:38:21] It's okay both off laners missing the block things are even it's fine
[03:38:27] Not that bad
[03:38:29] Okay lanes lanes lanes it seems like both position ones are going to have a good time
[03:38:34] You got watson with a positive matchup into the timbersaw and the monkey king picked intentionally to slap back the underlord
[03:38:42] What needs to happen for each of these teams in the early game winter?
[03:38:45] I think Boom needs to at least have like a game. I don't think he's going to win this
[03:38:53] lane against the T.E.A at Clockwork but at least he needs to be able to survive and get
[03:38:58] his XP right because I mentioned he is the anchor on the map. The rotations are going
[03:39:02] to be centered towards his lane so he needs to have a decent start so that they can actually
[03:39:07] rotate to his lane. So this is the first thing that needs to happen for Maus. The second
[03:39:11] obviously a rune for Storm. You need to secure the rune so he can actually rotate.
[03:39:15] And yeah, lastly, Munkking, you need to be in the lane against Underlord and then you
[03:39:21] also have to rotate. So the early game is very, very important for Mouse to do well.
[03:39:25] Whereas for Yandex, I think they are okay playing maybe a slower pace early game.
[03:39:29] Even if they don't go so well, their heroes just function really well together
[03:39:32] because they have a lot of damage. Did the corrosive haste and the melt strike from
[03:39:37] of TA, and then you're supposed to be able to dish out a very, very good amount of damage
[03:39:41] with the Shaman and the Clockwork. You know, you're going to have the Oras on the Underlord,
[03:39:45] so I think their teamfight and their damage output is going to be way more reliable compared
[03:39:51] to Maus, which is very, very reliant on the laning phase going well.
[03:39:56] So, for now, we're still doing okay, not exactly pressured away by this TA Clock. I guess the
[03:40:04] The clock can be annoying for the timber to deal with just because of the cogs, but at
[03:40:08] least in this early laning stage, Malady is finding a little bit hard to get into the
[03:40:13] mix.
[03:40:14] I think Yamage is doing a good job making sure he's always positioned between the timber
[03:40:17] and the clock, so he's never going to be the one getting caught out just using that
[03:40:21] range to mess with the CS as much as possible.
[03:40:24] 13-0, and Boom's having a swell-o-time on the timber saw.
[03:40:27] So first step of the recipe for success already in motion.
[03:40:33] line is actually also like a he's actually a very good matchup into the
[03:40:37] clock this is very difficult for the clock to run up and use the mana burn
[03:40:40] onto the heroes because of their stun so I think that is why Timber is
[03:40:46] actually doing really well in the beginning of the leading phase he's
[03:40:48] having a very good time and this is very very good news for Maus because he
[03:40:53] needs to have a good time for them to be able to play this game you know Storm is
[03:40:57] going to have a good time against Stala in this lane matchup I think it
[03:41:01] should be favored a little bit 60 40 maybe to the storm at least you know and
[03:41:06] then depending on who gets the rules, Fort Lane Monkey King is also supposedly
[03:41:11] favored you know on paper in this matchup Monkey King and Parkner is
[03:41:15] under Lord Ashama. They're doing well at the moment so Maus is having the start
[03:41:22] that they needed to to succeed in this game so far. Do you think there's a bit
[03:41:26] of an oversight then because at the end of the draft we were saying that Malady
[03:41:30] can pick just about anything and they're still going to be very happy and he had so many options.
[03:41:35] We didn't consider the clock right and when the clock came out you were saying oh you know it's a
[03:41:39] pretty good clock game but it hasn't really helped Watson crush this lane as hard as you would like.
[03:41:44] The lane is not really that good but it's good later like for the reasons I mentioned against
[03:41:50] the partner you can hook shot you can stop him from healing you can find the line the team fights
[03:41:55] the hook shot is also good against the monkey king when he's hiding on the trees you can find him
[03:41:59] So there's all sorts of things you can do with the Cogge.
[03:42:02] But the landing phase is definitely not the good thing about the Cogge here against Lion
[03:42:08] because you can't really get close enough to land a lot of power cogs on the Lion or the Timber.
[03:42:14] So definitely taking a trade there.
[03:42:17] I think that's the right trade because it sounds like this Timber is so, so important that I can imagine
[03:42:23] if maybe Maladich had a different hero, he might actually be able to stop three from it.
[03:42:28] I mean, what Watson is still farming well, you know, it's not like Watson can't farm, it's just, they can't really pressure the timber as much, you know.
[03:42:36] Don't you think, regardless of what melody picks, just because TA is the TA in this lane, Watson will be able to farm?
[03:42:43] Yeah, I think that's also fair to say. So, you're saying that maybe they should have a prioritize picking something that could pressure the timber more in a sub-tier?
[03:42:50] Yeah, I'm just trying to figure it out, because it sounds like this timber is the linchpin of their draft right now, right?
[03:42:55] Yeah, correct.
[03:42:56] he can't afford to fall behind and right now he's doing very well.
[03:42:59] I also can't imagine a world with how much notice this being pressured that the Shadow
[03:43:04] Shaman is able to have the space to rotate because any time you walk away from notice
[03:43:08] he's just going to get dropped to half HP by Crystalis.
[03:43:10] I think if anybody is going to know how to take advantage of this matchup, it's this
[03:43:14] man right here.
[03:43:15] Like you said, perhaps the best Monkey King ever.
[03:43:19] I still do this. It's not something you expect, you know, having the counterpick to the underlaw and the underlaw lane actually gets first first. This is, you know, this is not good.
[03:43:48] It's not good for Demon King but he kind of salvages things. He gets the counter kill and now 6 minute runes coming in.
[03:43:55] Storm went back to base to regen and countered out for the 6 minute power runes. He's going to be at full resource.
[03:44:01] Both supports coming in from both sides.
[03:44:05] As the calls out first ends up being a rune in the bot lane, mid one will try for the chase onto Malady.
[03:44:10] The second calls and the crush will keep him back, but mid one on the prowl will get the kill onto the clock.
[03:44:15] I guess in that sense both of the supports the pugna as well as the shadow shaman dying in the bot lane
[03:44:21] It's not that bad because they get to come back into the mid lane with full resources
[03:44:27] Yeah, there's always a saying the best time to die as a supports in early game is minute five and a half
[03:44:32] Yeah, exactly. You die you TP out you can fight for the six minute power rune and your full HP
[03:44:37] Now the alternative to a celery actually staying alive there
[03:44:40] he walks up with like maybe 300 400 HP and suddenly he's a very easy target for maybe
[03:44:46] Chira Junia to hunt down.
[03:44:48] Piki have hunting.
[03:44:49] It smelled that mid ones in the area are clearing out some of these stacks.
[03:44:53] They know that he's low on resource that's trying to take advantage of this.
[03:44:56] This is a very, very good pair from Timi and Dex.
[03:44:58] They're bringing in the Maki.
[03:44:59] That's Kusar, let's go.
[03:45:00] Is it going to be enough to two of them against three heroes here?
[03:45:04] Not level mix just yet.
[03:45:05] He's not going back the song.
[03:45:07] But they can't reach him.
[03:45:08] They can't cut him down and it's actually the fish that gets fried for us, Melody, still able to steal away that wisdom shrine.
[03:45:14] So EXP advantage going the way of Yandex but it cost them their mid.
[03:45:18] Don't know whether it's worth it, especially if they can't get away on Saksa.
[03:45:22] The Starless still keeping an eye on them but will just give up on the chase.
[03:45:26] It's worth it for Yandex, I think trading the mid for the XB rune.
[03:45:30] XB is trying there.
[03:45:31] You feel better as Yandex.
[03:45:33] They got both and now it means that this lion and partner they're both very XP dependent supports, you know
[03:45:40] This is a huge blow here
[03:45:42] Crystal is sticking around now get shackled up
[03:45:45] No one in the area to be able to help but a big bowler strike giving him that region still try to life steal away
[03:45:51] But notice we've seen this happen before the clockwork with the rocket blast slowing the monkey king enough
[03:45:56] So that the auto attack and come in from notice along with the pit they get boom and they get crystal is
[03:46:03] This is really really bad news that the Monkey King dies there.
[03:46:07] This underlaw is kind of counteracting the Monkey King's rotations with the global TP with the Fiends Gate.
[03:46:13] And not to mention a small other thing you can do with the Fiends Gate against my Monkey King is you can always kick him out of the tree and stun him if you can.
[03:46:21] If you know which tree he's hiding on.
[03:46:23] Yeah, the Fiends Gate breaks the trees around it, Malady sticking around for a bit too long will give a kill over to Yamich.
[03:46:30] But overall, Yandex, they are getting the better of this early game.
[03:46:34] You got to keep in mind as well that while Crystallis was monkeying around in the top lane,
[03:46:38] the whole time, notice is just farming, right?
[03:46:41] So the moment where he connects, he actually gets a kill,
[03:46:43] after what feels like one and a half minutes of wasted time,
[03:46:47] you needed the Monkey King's presence to even break even.
[03:46:51] In that whole wisdom shrine exchange, and now you're not falling behind super hard on the net worth just yet,
[03:46:56] but I'm sure Yandex are very happy with this current circumstance.
[03:47:00] You know, this Underlord has been working wonders, you know, for team Yandex.
[03:47:05] Like the fact that he was picked early and he's running into a counter pick and he still has such a good game.
[03:47:11] And this is going very, very well for notice and Yandex right now.
[03:47:17] Yeah, I think something people might call this illegal.
[03:47:19] Mouse are the ones that have the pressure to figure out what to do here.
[03:47:23] They need to do something, they need to be aggressive.
[03:47:26] They are the ones that are in a hurry.
[03:47:28] But at the same time, they don't have levels, you know, both of these supports, they are low level because they didn't get the shrine.
[03:47:34] Smoke spotted by the ward, but in reality, it's just a farming smoke for the Timbersaw, very common sight.
[03:47:40] Set the stacks up in the ancients and allow the Timbersaw to clean this up without taking any damage.
[03:47:45] Malady will confirm that that's going on with a nice rocket.
[03:47:48] But nothing that Yandex can really do to penetrate that area of the map just yet.
[03:47:52] The tier one still stands and Chira Juniors standing in the middle.
[03:47:55] So they're starting to salvage it a little bit. A good bit of EXP picked up by Yamage from that stack and Celery's been sapping in the mid lane for a bit.
[03:48:02] So once they get to that life drain and think of death, maybe that's where they'll look for a play.
[03:48:09] And they have to look for a play soon, you know. I don't know if they can wait for the level 6 on the line.
[03:48:14] And the Pog'Maw has level 6.
[03:48:15] And at the same time, when they are not doing anything, I think if you look at the heroes,
[03:48:22] TA, Underlord, Saur, they are farming more efficiently around the map, you know, especially
[03:48:26] TA.
[03:48:27] TA is one of the fastest farming heroes in the game.
[03:48:29] Monkey King does not want to sit and farm.
[03:48:31] He wants to fight.
[03:48:32] That's exactly what he'll do.
[03:48:34] Straight in under the tower, on to Saur, Shadow, Shaman, in trouble and will get struck down.
[03:48:40] Good move there from Miles to at least activate some of their cores and get action started.
[03:48:44] Now they have to find a way to accelerate the game.
[03:48:51] Kills into towers with the Poglar.
[03:48:52] That is something that they have to keep in mind.
[03:48:56] Salary is putting himself in a pretty precarious position trying to keep that catapult alive.
[03:49:00] I'll just be able to walk this one off.
[03:49:03] Okay, now they have the finger up there on line so they're going to have that burst.
[03:49:08] So I'm trying to zip to the low ground but get shackled, do they have an interrupt?
[03:49:13] Nice stun there from Yamage keeping them at bay and notice will try and chase with the
[03:49:17] pit, they got the catch onto Celery.
[03:49:21] Actually not too bad, their force rewards are a scene's gate and they only lose Celery.
[03:49:27] And notice that, can he make it through the twin gate in time?
[03:49:29] Yeah, he doesn't have the duration so he's gonna have to expend a TP back down there.
[03:49:34] That's a little bit awkward.
[03:49:35] Maybe not the worst the way it's not exactly in front of this tower so he's not gonna lose
[03:49:41] too much here, maybe one or two CS that's about it.
[03:49:47] I think things are still looking okay for miles after that exchange, it should be able
[03:49:52] to pressure the mid tower here and control the 12 minute rune for the storm spirit.
[03:49:59] Very very important that mid one gets every single rune in this game.
[03:50:03] And with how slowed down Chirra Jr. is just from that death in the top lane, he's still
[03:50:08] trying to make his way towards the blink tagger.
[03:50:10] So mid one, he's got his suction squadron next to him, ready to back him up with the
[03:50:14] mana and the HP.
[03:50:17] Anywhere he goes, he'll be topped up to the brim.
[03:50:19] He can keep the pressure onto this tier one and honestly not much that Yandex can do to
[03:50:23] stop it without the fiend's gate.
[03:50:25] They're gonna have to take a chill pill for a bit until the slaughterhouse dagger.
[03:50:32] He's very close to the dagger.
[03:50:34] He needs another minute of thumb.
[03:50:35] So this is Maus's chance to strike and get a kill.
[03:50:42] Easy pick up on Tamelli caught out in the triangle, continuing to roam as a pack.
[03:50:47] That's where Maus looked the best.
[03:50:49] Scurrying together around the map and finding these pick offs, they're keeping the action
[03:50:53] going.
[03:50:54] bot lane again. The supports being found over and over mid one and then Saksa are good old friends and
[03:51:02] make them hurt for it.
[03:51:09] I think they're starting to pick up for Maus here. They need to keep the ball rolling so they can get
[03:51:14] getting stacks of galvanized on the storm, control runes and keep stopping high index. I'm trying
[03:51:20] trying to be able to farm the map.
[03:51:24] Slava has a dagger now, so I think Yandex can maybe try to fight back right now.
[03:51:28] Try to go for a smoke with the Slava with the supports.
[03:51:31] They're gonna TP, wait, they TP bot on the Slava and the supports are keeping top.
[03:51:36] They're expecting a move on to notice, crushing the Monkey King.
[03:51:39] They saw him, hookshot's gonna stop that ultimate, but now he'll get the Rukon's command off surely.
[03:51:44] Battery assault being so annoying, but a big boundless strike turns the damage back on to Malavi.
[03:51:48] melody. Chira Junior will drop and so will melody. The Monkey King able to
[03:51:53] changing of the guard is way out of there and escape up to the trees. Watson
[03:51:57] still trying to give chase but the pit comes out too late. Monkey King's
[03:52:00] home free. There was a very strange TP by Saksa. Imagine if he TP's down here, they
[03:52:06] would have actually won the fight. They would have killed the Monkey King and
[03:52:09] then maybe an extra hero. He actually decides somehow to TP top and then
[03:52:14] Watson TP's bottom to join the fight. So there was like a very very strange TP
[03:52:18] overall you know from the shaman they kind of just needed him to be there so
[03:52:22] they would have won the fight.
[03:52:24] Yeah a bit of a rare bout of miscommunication but now Sasa setting up in the top lane along with
[03:52:29] Malady but mid ones there to respond the sub squad is right behind them and
[03:52:33] they're able to land a big round let's strike on the 2 now Watson in the site
[03:52:37] and knocked down the bowling pins just kind of run over here.
[03:52:44] It is really really great all of a sudden for Maus that two exchangers, you know
[03:52:48] And this is also like a a domino effect because shaman tb talk and he kind of feel like he wants to try and do something
[03:52:54] Sincerely tb talk and he put his team in a really bad position because they made an initiation very near the tower
[03:53:00] A very risky move and he gave Maus the perfect opportunity to just strike
[03:53:05] In front of the tower there well played you know taking full advantage of the over extension
[03:53:09] Malsim completely ready for any of the moves that Yandex are making.
[03:53:17] Even in the triangle when it looked like Mid, or rather, Crystallis was going to be caught
[03:53:22] out because they have vision of the monkey, it was really just a bait the whole time.
[03:53:27] Jiru Junio might have found himself a bit of a freebie.
[03:53:29] The crap should keep Celery safe.
[03:53:32] No further chase.
[03:53:33] Maybe going to take down that nether wart for the free gold.
[03:53:36] There you have it.
[03:53:38] not really finding the action that you want from this blink. Meanwhile you look
[03:53:43] at the opposing and mid one is farming it up right now. Kaya looking at the
[03:53:48] Saanj, still behind a little bit on the net worth compared to the rest of the
[03:53:52] course but having himself a very nice start to the game with 13 galvanized
[03:53:56] already.
[03:54:02] Rosha is going to be the next important thing. Yandex is going to be thinking of
[03:54:06] trying to sneak it with Slutter and Shaman, like Maus has to see it coming.
[03:54:11] They need to stay stay in the area and try to put down some vision.
[03:54:15] Maybe they have a ward up there at the moment at the secret shop but it's it's not exactly
[03:54:21] seeing the entry point into the road so they have to kind of always position heroes around
[03:54:26] the area to be ready you know.
[03:54:28] They're bringing in the Monkey King right now so they are aware that they need to play
[03:54:32] around the Roche pit.
[03:54:38] This is going to be a very, very crucial smoke if they can actually find a kill.
[03:54:42] Maybe the other ones will get Roche.
[03:54:44] Thank you to the jungle.
[03:54:46] Look who they found.
[03:54:47] It's a fried fish.
[03:54:49] Don't even need the finger of death.
[03:54:51] Can save that for another kill.
[03:54:52] Watson in their sights able to blink away.
[03:54:58] And Maus get the Roche?
[03:55:00] Probably not right not not with that here. I mean they got desol mk, but that's about it
[03:55:05] I'm not sure. Maybe they can I need to be slow. Yeah, I'll be a little too slow
[03:55:09] They're going for the kill on notice monkey steeping, but
[03:55:12] Just one at the moment
[03:55:14] Here's the boundless. It's not enough damage though with his crimson guard
[03:55:22] Altis consider as much as miles are taking control of the map the TA and the underlord are still farming
[03:55:28] Yes, Watson got picked off, but he's still top of the net worth first one to keep that 10k
[03:55:32] There's a hook shot off the mark a little bit from Malady
[03:55:35] And it'll take a lot of damage in return boom trying to get through the coughs trying to get up to the high ground
[03:55:40] But there's no this waiting right for him burning him completely dry on mana
[03:55:44] But still enough for one more timber chain and he's out
[03:55:46] Meanwhile Yammich throws his body in the mix just to sacrifice himself and get boom out of there
[03:55:51] I am very well played there, saving the timber, sacrificing himself, a noble sacrifice, you
[03:56:00] will be remembered Yammage.
[03:56:04] Just for all the times that he left Boomba long to try, you can see how both teams really
[03:56:09] putting emphasis into controlling the top area, you know this Roshan is going to come
[03:56:13] in very very important, they can actually secure it on either side.
[03:56:19] Mouses doesn't want Yandex to get it, Yandex doesn't want Mouses to get it, you know.
[03:56:23] Very, very tense moments here.
[03:56:26] Yandex taking that tier 1, that's a good start.
[03:56:28] Malady being caught by a long zip from mid 1.
[03:56:31] Fingal of Death will secure that kill.
[03:56:33] Looks like they might have seen Watson.
[03:56:35] Still should be able to blink away because of that reflection being up.
[03:56:38] This area, starting to be controlled by Mouses,
[03:56:41] they have good vision set up but so do Yandex.
[03:56:45] Low cooldown on the clockwork, in terms of his death timer.
[03:56:49] Come back in and try and contest both teams no longer have tier ones in this area
[03:56:53] Not a tier one in the mid as well
[03:56:54] So no easy way of TPing back and reconnecting to the fight if they lose it
[03:57:02] Yep one more minute and rush will go bot
[03:57:06] They just need to hang I think if it's bot and mouse goes for torrento yandex is gonna get Russian
[03:57:13] So these are things going through the player's mind right now
[03:57:16] decisions, decisions. Where are they going to go? I think the
[03:57:22] ocean is probably more important than the pomegranate here.
[03:57:25] Close going to break. Christalis being spotted out by the, oh there's the gate interaction
[03:57:31] that you talked about but his team is ready to back him up. Notice was thinking about
[03:57:35] coming through the fiend's gate but he realizes quickly this is not a fight they can win.
[03:57:40] Decrep will save the lion from Watson's damage.
[03:57:44] And Kristallis plays them like a fiddle,
[03:57:47] danced right in between the smoke attempt
[03:57:49] and this will be an easy tormentor
[03:57:51] if that's what Maus wants to get.
[03:57:56] Okay, Yandex still find the trade here with the Roshan
[03:57:59] and they have to do something.
[03:58:01] Slotter is up in 20 seconds
[03:58:02] so he'll be just in time when the Roshan moves bot.
[03:58:06] Mid one is still around the area so he's checking.
[03:58:09] he's gonna pick up the rune, that's actually very very heads up you know
[03:58:13] because he knows that he's not needed at the tormentor so he can actually go and
[03:58:16] pick up the rune. It could come in handy in the Roche fight if it happens. Roche is
[03:58:22] still walking slowly over so no chance for Yandex to really be in position and
[03:58:26] try and steal that one from under the noses of Maus. I mean look at them,
[03:58:31] they're gating, they're coming down the air, they know that Yandex might be trying
[03:58:34] to get a Roche so immediately bringing all their heroes through the gates to the
[03:58:38] bottom area. Very nice movement, you know, from team Maus right now.
[03:58:45] That's the crazy thing about Maus, right? I feel like some games we see them play
[03:58:49] like this. Mid one looks like a superstar. You know, they come out of lanes looking
[03:58:53] fine. They have their signature heroes. And then it actually looks pretty good.
[03:58:58] You can't even tell that this is a team that's 2-6 at the moment. But they're not
[03:59:02] the games. It just feels like they're stuck in the past. They're just not keeping up.
[03:59:06] They can't really bring the heat to some of these teams coming into this matchup
[03:59:10] You see the score so far five three two six you imagine with how clean Yandex have been playing
[03:59:16] And they will be able to
[03:59:18] Maybe easily sweep away mouse, but Chira junior having a really difficult time in this game on the slaughter
[03:59:24] Just hasn't really worked out and maybe that's why we're not really seeing this hero picked up that much anymore
[03:59:30] more. But this game is not exactly, I don't think it's his fault, you know, I mean, sure
[03:59:39] maybe he could play better in some of the smaller exchanges. But I think the main reason
[03:59:44] the game became hard was because of that TP, you know, remember, like what, around 10 minutes
[03:59:48] ago was it when Shaman TPed out when he was supposed to TP, and that was the deciding
[03:59:56] moment of the game, that kind of blew the game wide apart. They lost that fight and
[04:00:00] then he TP top, he tried to set up another fight which they also lost and two bad fights
[04:00:05] in a row.
[04:00:06] Hold that thought Winter, Maus setting up for a contest around the Wisdom Shrine. Decret
[04:00:11] will keep Celery safe on the side while Mid one, he's in the prey. Silent stuck for now,
[04:00:15] still able to stand his ground but pittered, killed up now, able to zip away and Yandex
[04:00:20] won't be able to defend their area, big pit with the Agadims holding the rest of Maus
[04:00:24] in place. They will fight in the Wul Kongs. That's not something that Yandex wants to breach.
[04:00:28] Circles all around trying to keep the other team at bay.
[04:00:32] Ashira Juni is still waiting for his opportunity but Watson, he's been left on the front lines.
[04:00:36] All alone, no save! Watson tried to do the damage for his team but ends up getting picked off and
[04:00:42] killed and Malady will fall as well. Really nice kiting there from the side of Maus. They were
[04:00:49] pushed out of the wisdom shrine area but maybe a mistake there for Yandex to try and chase for
[04:00:54] more. Things are definitely crumbling for Yandex now. It seems like they are not
[04:01:01] going to be able to contest the Roshan any time soon. Mouse, not in a hurry to
[04:01:06] take Rosh. They can just slowly control the area, farm the jungle, make sure that
[04:01:11] the TA has no agents to farm and choose the right time to secure the Rosh. I
[04:01:16] think it's more important actually for Yandex to get the Rosh but it's not as
[04:01:19] important for Maus to get the rush.
[04:01:27] You think it's in their best interest to maybe still try it though just to take
[04:01:30] that factor away. Hook shot in, turn around the wave it's just Yamage alone here
[04:01:35] but mid one here to save the day. Ready to control Chira Junior the lion will die
[04:01:39] but mid one will try and find himself a return kill. Doesn't feel confident not
[04:01:44] knowing where the shadow shaman could be a blink hex could spell the end of him.
[04:01:47] true enough sasa right around the corner so damage getting caught out farming the
[04:01:52] way there just a small kill but something that mouse will take or rather
[04:01:56] yandex will take sorry
[04:02:04] and you were saying that if I were in game back shoes should I still force the
[04:02:10] rush on because you need it yeah just like just take it away right from yandex
[04:02:17] They don't really have the best lineup to kill Roshan quickly so if they do it, it's going to take a long time.
[04:02:27] So it's inefficient for them to spend the time to do it as well, you know.
[04:02:31] So you have to take into account that it's slow unless you have already team wiped the index and maybe you have all the time in the world to do it.
[04:02:39] He's coming in.
[04:02:41] Asa's been caught.
[04:02:43] Turns around for the Hex.
[04:02:45] And throw the chicken fingers out, keeping mid-1 control.
[04:02:47] Trying to escape, notice will be left behind.
[04:02:49] Taksa able to survive,
[04:02:51] but his off-laner doesn't have that same privilege.
[04:02:57] This game is kind of getting into the stage where,
[04:03:00] wherever you show on the map,
[04:03:02] the Monkey King Storm and Teemo,
[04:03:04] because they're so mobile, they can just come and chase you
[04:03:06] and run at you.
[04:03:09] So Yandex, they have to actually respect the fact that the heroes are so mobile that they cannot be found dangerous with
[04:03:16] by showing their heroes anymore.
[04:03:22] This is kind of what I was suggesting. I thought that maybe with the advantage that Miles had got, then why not just take the
[04:03:28] Rosh, right? Because you need it for the high ground and you want to make sure you deny it from the side of Yandex.
[04:03:34] At the same time, they were also waiting for the right time to do it. They don't have to rush to take it, because as long as they are alive,
[04:03:41] there's no way Yandex can just throw up and walk over and do the rush with the Sly on TA. They're going to die there.
[04:03:47] So I think it was rightfully correct for Miles to just sit back and be patient and wait for the right moment to kill the enemies first and then take the rush after that.
[04:03:57] I think themselves into a nice position in this game.
[04:04:02] The Crimson Guard complete for the Timber, that's going to help the rest of the team
[04:04:05] against this physical damage.
[04:04:07] But a Solar Crest as well, Monkey King working on his eggs and the Shiva's coming up very
[04:04:13] shortly for mid one.
[04:04:14] So all the members of the team mostly insured against the high physical burst of Yandex.
[04:04:20] I mean apart from the Underlord, you don't actually have a lot of magic damage to supply,
[04:04:26] right?
[04:04:27] I'm sure the firestorm is pretty solid but only firestorm and maybe some pure
[04:04:33] damage from sidebase if you happen to be able to use it here it's tough you know
[04:04:41] very very tough you have a TA that's not a hit and he's still fat but only the TA
[04:04:46] right the rest of the team they're kind of behind so it's very very hard for
[04:04:51] them to maneuver around the map to play aggressively and you can wait for the
[04:04:55] BKB on Sada and maybe you try to wait out the Aegis on Storm. So Nianbex, they
[04:05:03] definitely need to be patient for the next couple of minutes until the Aegis
[04:05:06] expires. I'm kind of surprised that we got to this point but I guess it does come
[04:05:12] back to what you were saying. It was as simple as Timber needing to have a good
[04:05:15] start. Because of that, Boon could just kind of exist in the lane and apply
[04:05:19] pressure as an anchor. I'm not to mention Crystalis and mid one also did very well
[04:05:23] in their respective matchups and now mid one is an absolute terror around the
[04:05:27] map just looking at malady to be a very easy kill even at low mana thanks to the
[04:05:32] arcane rune not much that this clockwork can really do have you try and find a
[04:05:37] creep to hookshot into
[04:05:40] all right I need my stack says damage every single lion player there's always
[04:05:48] an excuse to take the kill because you get stacks you know I I appreciate it
[04:05:53] Because look, as soon as he fingers the kill, Yamage just goes back in and tops mid one
[04:05:58] to like half mana.
[04:06:00] So you give me a kill, you give me a stack, I give you some mana back.
[04:06:03] Even trade, even exchange.
[04:06:05] Nice hex onto the timber but unfortunately no follow up and mid one will find himself
[04:06:09] another support.
[04:06:10] You manage to get your shot on Watson to silence up the storm but with how this one is going,
[04:06:16] he is just a bullet train with how fast he's killing them.
[04:06:23] I think they need to put the tier, tell the tier to go out on the map to farm.
[04:06:35] He just needs to cut waves, take risk.
[04:06:38] He has to try to take the dangerous farm and just let the underlord and the rest of the
[04:06:43] team defend and buy time.
[04:06:44] I mean that's probably the only way for them to play the game right now.
[04:06:47] If they're all stuck in base, it's really really bad.
[04:06:51] What do you think happened to this Underlord? Prior to this, Yandex were completely undefeated.
[04:06:56] 4 and 0 on this Underlord.
[04:06:58] It's just that one Shaman TEE. I'm actually telling you, it's just that one bad TP.
[04:07:02] If he TPed to the Outpost, they won that fight. This is a completely different game.
[04:07:08] Because they lost that fight, and they took another bad fight atop, they lost Tormentor
[04:07:11] and Roshan as a result of that.
[04:07:12] You know what I'm going to say as well. I know you might not agree with this, but I also
[04:07:17] do think the Clockwork Pig didn't really do as much as I thought.
[04:07:20] I'm trying to look at the problem as you already picked this hero, so what can you do about it?
[04:07:26] So they couldn't still salvage it, it wouldn't be that bad if Saksa didn't make that decision, it's what you're saying.
[04:07:31] That one simple TP actually grieved the game so hard.
[04:07:35] It's so tough to say that right, because how often do you look at Yandex struggling and be like,
[04:07:40] oh Saksa is the one who messed up, I feel like even in games where Yandex struggles,
[04:07:44] usually Saksa is the one desperately trying to make all the right problems.
[04:07:48] If one person has to play so well every game, so that your team can win right, you're not really spreading the weight of the burden to everyone.
[04:07:56] You have to rely on everyone. If you only rely on someone that one person will get tired one day, you know, like there'll be one game, his shoulders are going to be a little bit too sore.
[04:08:04] You can't even blame him right?
[04:08:06] It's just unfortunate, you know, because of the nature of the situation and lineup that one small little mistake became such a huge deal in the game.
[04:08:15] But I don't even think because you usually when we talk about stuff like this
[04:08:20] We say oh, you know if they make one mistake and that's enough for them to lose then it's a draft problem
[04:08:25] But I don't even think it's a bad draw from the index
[04:08:27] I think it's a decent draw, but you also have a point that if you have such a low margin for
[04:08:33] It's gonna mean that there's something
[04:08:36] Not so precisely the draft that you maybe miss a key here was a band or you picked the wrong support something like that
[04:08:42] So I think I can kind of agree from that standpoint as well.
[04:08:46] I wonder whether it's the Slada or the Clockwork, because those are sort of the obvious...
[04:08:51] Kind of both, because Slada doesn't really...
[04:08:54] You need to snowball with this field as well, you know.
[04:08:57] So if you don't snowball, then it kind of just feels like...
[04:09:00] Maybe just together, you know, this Slada and Clock together just has not much synergy as well.
[04:09:06] Slada is great with the TA, the Clock is supposed to secure the lane,
[04:09:10] But the clock didn't secure the lane because of the lion.
[04:09:12] So it means that the clock kind of feels redundant,
[04:09:14] apart from trying to hook the Pokemon out of the lion and kill them, you know.
[04:09:18] And maybe the clock would feel a lot better if Yammage was playing his typical pause-paw
[04:09:22] where he wants to roam, right?
[04:09:23] You imagine a solo Timbersaw being bullied back by the clock and his cogs.
[04:09:26] But because the lion was picked up,
[04:09:29] Yammage is just standing in the lane for five minutes straight,
[04:09:31] and every single time clock tries to do anything,
[04:09:33] he just gets stunned and mana drained.
[04:09:35] But even then, I feel like after that, the game was still in a good position.
[04:09:39] Because the underlock was fad, the TL is really fad.
[04:09:43] It was just that one TP, they took a fight in the outpost and they took another fight on top
[04:09:47] and they lost both fights on both ends and they lost the Tormentor.
[04:09:51] It's like a chain effect, then the game became really difficult.
[04:09:54] Like, Torna is just really unforgiving at the moment with the Tormentor, Broshan, Tyring's.
[04:09:59] And on top of that, with the Auras as well, like one wrong move just escalates the game so quickly.
[04:10:04] Now for what it's worth, Yandex gonna try and put up a final hurrah. They managed to burst on the punk now, but mid ones here at the party.
[04:10:11] Ready to take down Saksa, there'll be a first kill. Big finger up there before going down on the lion.
[04:10:15] Both supports drop on Maus for now, and Yandex, they're standing their ground.
[04:10:20] Finally, the Wukong's command from Crystalis, putting the damage back onto the Underlord, and they just can't fight into this circle.
[04:10:26] Yandex has to retreat. They've lost the big bad notice Underlord.
[04:10:30] without it their auras their control lacking just have to try and run for
[04:10:36] the hills boom thinking about the continued chase but nothing else to be
[04:10:40] fun I mean Yandex that was pretty decent all things considered it sucks to lose
[04:10:45] your underlaw but at least you get something and Watson a couple more
[04:10:49] decimal charges the first few of the game actually I mean there was also his
[04:10:55] BKB is 9 seconds BKB on the tier.
[04:10:58] And I did it, they would have wanted to get more of it, but like you said, you know, because of their position, it's okay to trade 2 for 2
[04:11:05] and try to wait for a next opportunity to strike, you know.
[04:11:09] I think if they can actually land like a good initiation from Sa, they still do have a lot of damage from the tier to just win the fight off,
[04:11:16] picking off the supports, the lion and the panna, those are the two key heroes that you have to eliminate in the teamfights right away.
[04:11:22] And Claude works pretty good at doing that, so if they can actually find a good hope again,
[04:11:29] that would give them good chances in winning the next fight.
[04:11:32] Yeah, and we were so busy talking about that one mistake that they made about the
[04:11:37] about not it not being the draft that decision with the TP that we completely missed. Yandex,
[04:11:42] they were just quietly farming out for that triple BKB timing. Even though they used the
[04:11:46] nine seconds on all three heroes, it's still a good chance for them, right? Like you said,
[04:11:50] all they need to do is connect on the back line. And at the moment, the supports don't have any
[04:11:55] defensive tools. Like Celery is very prone to being burst down if he gets stunned once,
[04:12:00] because the Ghost Scepter Decrep all require him to be able to press it, and Yamage also
[04:12:05] doesn't have anything to save himself if he gets caught. So that could be a concern. You don't have,
[04:12:10] maybe you can use the Lotus, but that doesn't stop you from being stunned on the partner.
[04:12:14] So the cause don't have anything they can do to help you out, but what the cause can do is kill
[04:12:19] enemy heroes and Malady will go down for the ninth time in this game on the clockwork.
[04:12:38] I found Satsa. It's just boom giving him a couple of love taps but not often love taps
[04:12:43] taking you down to half HP such a difficult game I mean at this point
[04:12:57] Miles just like the kid just mouse is having the control but it's still you
[04:13:02] have to breach the high ground other loss very good at depending how you know
[04:13:05] this rush is gonna help though yeah that's the kind of ass of the seat I think
[04:13:10] have to accept their fate right now. Sit on the base and let's try to defend.
[04:13:17] Chimba's going for an Octarin core instead of an Aghanim or a DKB. What do you think
[04:13:23] about that? He doesn't think he'll die with the Pugna behind him.
[04:13:27] But isn't the Aghanim also just really good damage or is Octarin better in the situation
[04:13:32] where you're doing the damage? Octarin is better damage. Okay, you get yourself
[04:13:37] I think overall it's just I think way better now like because they nerf the AOE of the
[04:13:47] agg names right you got smaller the radius so maybe the damage the way you utilize the
[04:13:52] damage is not as reliable anymore.
[04:13:54] I guess it makes the most sense if you're on the front line like soaking a lot there
[04:13:57] you can return the damage into these heroes but with the way that Yandex are set up they're
[04:14:02] probably trying to keep their distance like they're just gonna pit and shackle you from
[04:14:05] a range and the Octane Claw also helps you like the Crimson Claw down, you have Gled near
[04:14:10] and you have Lotus.
[04:14:11] True, yeah.
[04:14:15] Now back up to the high ground with the help of the Roche Banner.
[04:14:18] Maus ready to try and claw their way back in at least.
[04:14:22] Make it so that they can avoid those last chance playoffs.
[04:14:29] Estalis on his signature here.
[04:14:30] The Monkey King has looked amazing.
[04:14:32] Nullifier comes in, but throw in mid-1 as well, supports are going to die.
[04:14:37] No buyback on Saksa, he has not had any room to stand on this Shadow Shaman.
[04:14:42] Every time he shows, he just goes down.
[04:14:44] And this underlaw high ground is pretty impressive, right?
[04:14:46] It does a lot of damage to Boom, with that full duration Firestorm.
[04:14:50] Still got to respect it, but you got the healing from the punkna backing you up.
[04:14:53] Rain Boom mat back up to high HP.
[04:14:56] Wukong's command laid down as Crystal is looking to finish off this Rax.
[04:14:59] Again, he's dropping low but Watson easily focused down and killed and they don't have any save whatsoever.
[04:15:06] Running out of heroes, running out of options, Yandex,
[04:15:09] fleeing back to the base in their previously undefeated Underlord,
[04:15:13] off of the back of one or two bad decisions from their support in the early game,
[04:15:17] it's about to get cracked by Maus.
[04:15:22] I don't see why they can actually do anything anymore here.
[04:15:24] They're gonna lose two lanes or wrecks.
[04:15:26] They can't get the megas because there's a tier 2 on top remaining, but they're gonna try to just end the game, you know.
[04:15:32] TA is still dead for a minute. They have to try to mount the defensive tree heroes here.
[04:15:37] I was trying to poke out the buyback, of course they have no idea that the TA has no option back into this game.
[04:15:42] They can't save the shaman, they can't save their poor Slada.
[04:15:46] He will at least get a lion before going down. No, he's still surviving for now.
[04:15:51] mouse need to watch themselves the last thing they want to do is give Yandex an
[04:15:55] option back into this game but it doesn't look likely. Broom is still full HP,
[04:16:00] you got your pugna healing crystalis, now you're looking towards notice, full shot
[04:16:04] doesn't catch the pugna, they're trying to go on to the back lines on to salary
[04:16:07] but the buybacks immediately mouse know that this game is theirs and they will
[04:16:11] secure it for themselves underlaw with the buyback still fighting to the bitter
[04:16:15] and trying to preserve that 100% win rate.
[04:16:20] Doesn't look likely.
[04:16:22] Maus really gonna show that respect and back off.
[04:16:24] They're waiting for the rest of the team to reconnect.
[04:16:28] I mean, the team is back up and you can die back on your claw.
[04:16:31] All 5 heroes available for Yandex, they can put up one last fight.
[04:16:34] They paid on the back line on to Celery again,
[04:16:37] but he didn't have the nullifier cooldown.
[04:16:39] Celery's just gonna turn around and survive.
[04:16:40] Meanwhile, Wapson in big trouble!
[04:16:42] The TA trying for a backstab gets shot down instead and Yandex that final defense was not it
[04:16:54] Try for the buyback still trying to fight until the bitter end but without the damage of your carry. What can you really do?
[04:17:03] Oh, they're the bad unfortunate disconnect. I mean, anyway, I'm sure they can continue the game
[04:17:07] No TIE, Shaman bought back, but I...
[04:17:14] The lion died back by the way, so there's no chance he's back in here.
[04:17:17] They have to kill the alien and kill the monkey.
[04:17:19] Maybe if they can't kill the monkey, the game could go on.
[04:17:22] Yeah, he knows about it.
[04:17:24] Of course.
[04:17:25] Hey, just want to end the game here on Miles looking very solid.
[04:17:31] It's outside there with the control, but no one to do the damage and mid one will be
[04:17:35] able to zip.
[04:17:36] and still has that second life and yeah that'll wrap things up.
[04:17:40] Maus able to dispatch of Yandex, not what we expected.
[04:17:44] Yandex on their undefeated underlaw will take the first loss here
[04:17:48] and maybe just maybe with that loss,
[04:17:51] Yandex's hopes of securing that semi-final slot might have just faded away.
[04:17:56] It's very important you know just one small little mistake that is causing the game to cascade
[04:18:01] and snowball control, but credit has to be given to Maus. They took advantage of it. I think they
[04:18:08] actually managed to find the right adjustments, the right hero for Cery and the market king as a
[04:18:13] counter to the underlaw and those are the things that kind of set up them for success. I doubted
[04:18:18] the lion but the lion was like I think playing an important role in the laning phase that allowed
[04:18:23] the timber to actually lane unpressured against the A. Normally against the A you will get pressured
[04:18:29] somewhat but he was like kind of free farming he was getting his levels he was
[04:18:34] just basically unheard you know in the in the leading face and that kind of
[04:18:38] allowed mouse to have an ankle on the map to play on they also did a really good
[04:18:43] job in securing runes from mid run he was able to get the runes run around
[04:18:48] gank the TA even with the underlord coming in that wasn't kind of enough
[04:18:53] you know for Yandex this time round so I think props to mouse they played a good
[04:18:57] game and deserve the victory here.
[04:18:59] Yeah, really quiet performance from the mid laner and support of Yandex, usually the striking
[04:19:06] members who managed to get their team at advantage while notice and Watson might be a bit more
[04:19:12] greedy.
[04:19:13] Yes, at the end of the day, the underlaw and the TA got their farm but it just wasn't enough.
[04:19:17] And like I said, Yandex, they were previously in contention maybe to steal away the second
[04:19:22] semi-final slot but now will have to work a lot harder for it.
[04:19:25] BK are working hard though, our upcoming teams definitely have to follow that sentiment.
[04:19:30] Gamer Legion 3 and 5, Liquid 5 and 4, best of one between those after a short break.
[04:26:25] First two days here on the B Stream of Blast Slam 6 group stage, we had so many back and
[04:26:49] fourth, you know, up and down affairs winter and then suddenly we come into day three,
[04:26:54] everyone's getting a bit more decisive.
[04:26:57] All these games have been pretty one-sided, a bit too much for my taste, so hopefully
[04:27:01] these upcoming two teams, Gamer Legion and Liquid, can give us a bit more of an exciting
[04:27:06] show, don't you think?
[04:27:08] Yeah, I mean hopefully.
[04:27:10] I think in game day three, usually the teams, they are starting to figure something out
[04:27:14] after all the games.
[04:27:16] So you tend to see more decisive results.
[04:27:18] The deeper you go into this kind of PO1 group stage,
[04:27:23] it's becoming a lot clearer which heroes are clearly
[04:27:25] the heroes that you should be prioritizing,
[04:27:27] how you should be playing a game,
[04:27:28] and teams are just getting better.
[04:27:29] So you see a lot more straight up, stompy games,
[04:27:33] because one team has just clearly figured something out.
[04:27:36] Hopefully in this game, you'll be different,
[04:27:39] but it's like Liquid.
[04:27:40] I'm sure Liquid is learning a lot along the way.
[04:27:43] They're not exactly playing very bad in the group stages, but it's something that they
[04:27:48] definitely could still work on.
[04:27:49] There are a lot of areas in the game that they could improve on, the draft especially
[04:27:54] and the coordination between, especially Ace with the other teams seems like he's very
[04:27:58] disconnected with the team.
[04:28:00] So hopefully they've tried to sort that issue out and able to figure out a way to ensure
[04:28:06] that Ace can play with the team together.
[04:28:09] pick him a brewmaster that we assumed he would be somewhat comfortable on given that it's a hero
[04:28:16] that fits him and then he just kind of never connected to his very strong teammates even
[04:28:21] though he was behind it almost felt like maybe a bit of that carry mentality coming back in right
[04:28:27] like oh i'm having a bad game i just need a farm guys make space for me but like you can't really
[04:28:35] do that when you're the pause 3 brew master right like that's not that's not how it's supposed to
[04:28:41] happen sure you can say you got counterpicked by the ursa but you can't really because you picked
[04:28:47] the brew into the ursa so honestly a little bit of a head scratcher there from liquid hopefully in
[04:28:53] this one and a half hour since their previous game against yandex they've been able to figure it out
[04:28:57] but gamer legion their opponents also have had their fair share of i want to say confusing
[04:29:03] games, it's hard to really place their power level because in some games, R.C.Y. looks insane,
[04:29:10] they're popping off, they're working together as a team, your boy's speed is all up in there.
[04:29:15] And then other games, it's just like, what the hell are these guys even doing? How did
[04:29:19] they even get here? Sometimes the coordination breaks down to such a degree that you're scratching
[04:29:25] your head as well.
[04:29:26] I think the manner that they're winning against a lot of the times from their drafts on the
[04:29:32] game religion side and obviously also the man on your screen here, R.C.R. I think he's
[04:29:37] been exceptional among his team, like he's the one that I feel like has been playing
[04:29:42] the best of the five players.
[04:29:44] So I think prioritizing this man in front of your screen is going to be very, very important
[04:29:50] for our game religion, especially against Nisha.
[04:29:53] Nisha is also a very important player for Liquid.
[04:29:57] So if they can somehow give R.C.Y a good lane matchup, then it's Nisha and they are on the
[04:30:01] second pick side here, right?
[04:30:02] So if they can give him a head start in terms of the laning phase, good matchup, then would
[04:30:08] be very ideal for Gamer Legion.
[04:30:10] But because Liquid are on the first pick side, they always have to be careful of this 18
[04:30:14] pick part that Liquid really likes to have.
[04:30:18] versus the veteran, both excel at very similar heroes like that storm, like that park.
[04:30:26] Probably try to gas knee sharps in, come on, you can, he's a kid, I'm sure you can do
[04:30:30] with him, you can see him smiling right here.
[04:30:32] A gamer legion had some drafts where they opened up with a viper and of course that's
[04:30:35] an excellent hero for the flex potential, but I feel like it's kind of a bait for them
[04:30:39] because in the moments where we've seen R.C.Y play viper, he still does well but then you
[04:30:44] You kind of remove a lot of the playmaking potential because honestly there's only so
[04:30:49] much you can do as a Viper.
[04:30:53] It's also because of the setup of the team.
[04:30:56] If you look at the tree course right, Yamsum, he's a, I feel like he doesn't really rotate
[04:31:02] a lot.
[04:31:03] He farms a lot.
[04:31:04] Then if you look at the offlaner, RCO, sorry not RCOF8, he also takes up a lot of space
[04:31:09] on the map.
[04:31:10] those sort of like aura scaling off-latents you know so it's very important
[04:31:15] to ask if I place a rotating mid hero like a spirit hero or a park or a
[04:31:19] corp any hero that can move around and play with the supports and it's very
[04:31:24] important that I actually secure that sort of setup for the draft they're
[04:31:29] going to open with a badden this hero no longer gets countered by shadow demon
[04:31:33] after the last patch because illusions does not gain the passive from a badden
[04:31:40] anymore so you don't have that DPS on the Shadow Demon illusions.
[04:31:47] So why Abaddon first?
[04:31:50] It's a neutral hero.
[04:31:52] It doesn't reveal a lot and if you want to pick a call, I wouldn't say it's up there
[04:31:59] in terms of priority, in terms of neutral heroes.
[04:32:01] I think there are a lot more different neutral heroes.
[04:32:05] a bad a better is not the best at the moment but I can understand why they're picking a better
[04:32:10] yeah maybe for them it works they've chosen to chosen to go for the lago in a lot of other cases
[04:32:22] against extreme gaming who also picked shadow demon against him on eight they picked the lago
[04:32:26] but then they ended up losing that game so maybe thinking that okay previously we thought the lago
[04:32:32] was giga high priority, we won a 9 pick it, moving away from that a little bit, maybe somewhere
[04:32:37] later down the draft. I would argue to say out of all the teams that we've seen in this tournament
[04:32:41] so far, Gamer Legion have been the most keen on picking the frog. They love to run it on fade,
[04:32:47] if they don't have that option they'll run it on their supports, they don't mind, they seem to really
[04:32:51] like that hero. It kind of feels like a little bit overkill, I think if you have a badden and
[04:33:01] and lago on the same team. Double dispel. Do we even need that much dispel?
[04:33:10] I don't like too many of the same thing in the draft, you know. It's just me.
[04:33:15] I can see that but at the same time your abaddon running at you, you pull them back with the
[04:33:19] leg, put the frog stomp in, turn around from the abaddon, you know you're moving fast with the hot
[04:33:24] Fleet Hustle.
[04:33:28] Not really the best croak of genius combo though, I will say.
[04:33:31] Yeah, I know.
[04:33:32] Usually the croak or genius works with the Offlane hero or the mid hero.
[04:33:36] Usually the mid hero.
[04:33:37] Yeah, like your timbers, your tinies that you were mentioning, right?
[04:33:41] Like even a lash.
[04:33:42] Yeah, very good way lash.
[04:33:47] Taking out the RCY Storm and the Speed Warlock.
[04:33:49] So Liquid removing comfort for Gamer Legion here.
[04:33:52] Once it's going to be Kanka taken out, that's interesting.
[04:33:59] Something Ace played a bit before this.
[04:34:03] There's Shell Demon, so Shell Demon with Kanka is a strong lane.
[04:34:06] Apart from Shell Demon, Kanka they've also ran Shell Demon with Centaur as like the traditional duo.
[04:34:14] You put the disruption down, then you set up for the stun,
[04:34:18] in the teamfight you just use your disseminate on the center the center runs in
[04:34:22] that could be a potential a0 here for liquid this game
[04:34:26] it's also a mask if they wanted although i can't say i've been convinced by the ace mask
[04:34:31] performances and he's not exactly a mask player i mean he can play but it's not exactly his uh
[04:34:37] forte you know he excels more with the tank aura bot carry type of offlane heroes such as
[04:34:46] Underlord? Yeah, Underlord Centaur, he wants to play tight. I think he will probably play Centaur this game. Very, very likely.
[04:34:57] A little bit awkward with the Clockwork Claw to know if he gets on top of you with the Hulk Shard.
[04:35:02] Yeah, Shadow Demon. Shadow Demon should be able to protect you. Shadow Demon Centaur is just so good of a combo.
[04:35:08] I might not pick it now but actually they should probably pick his heal they see the lane it's
[04:35:16] most likely a badder than a clock I think they should pick the post 4 and the off lane here
[04:35:22] it makes you so sure this clock is going to a badder let's double melee the over the shadow
[04:35:26] even yeah I'm not sure but you can only assume with what information you have you need to preemptively
[04:35:33] at least make make it not an option right because your lane is so strong that the clock doesn't
[04:35:37] I don't want to blame the Abaddon.
[04:35:40] Centaur Shadow Demon do well into Abaddon, you think?
[04:35:43] Or they go for the Darkseer instead, huh?
[04:35:46] Trying to copy the Abaddon, make more illusions.
[04:35:49] This is in fact an Ace Hero, Darkseer.
[04:35:52] But I wouldn't say that he has the best synergy with Shadow Demon in the lane.
[04:35:56] If you go Shadow Demon 5 now and then you pick a different Pulse Fork for Boksy, I mean
[04:36:02] he does like his Tars-Kaini both are available.
[04:36:04] you definitely could. I think this has by far been the biggest problem for Liquid, the
[04:36:14] support duo, you know, like what is the support duo? They have always been doing this, they
[04:36:18] have two position 4 heroes in the game. Some games it works, some games it just doesn't.
[04:36:23] This game I think might be okay. What do you think is the differential factor that makes
[04:36:31] So the game that we saw just now it was bad plus, was it tiny or bad plus thing?
[04:36:39] Yeah, bad tiny. So it kind of feels like both heroes want to do the same thing.
[04:36:42] Push out lanes, play greedy and initiate right. Even though bad didn't go there, he went for the pipe.
[04:36:47] But it just tells me that they are not really ready to expand the hero pool into an actual
[04:36:54] post five and post four. They're still limited by certain options because the hero pool of
[04:36:59] of Turfool and still mostly 4 heroes.
[04:37:03] And now, Blue Master is being picked by Gaiman, and this is an excellent pick against Darkseer
[04:37:06] and Shadow Demon because you get to dispel all the illusions.
[04:37:10] This is a very big deal in the teamfights.
[04:37:14] You probably want to range hero with you, you don't want a Cloud War to land you.
[04:37:18] Yeah, it doesn't really ignite the Cinderbrew in a convincing fashion unless you go like
[04:37:23] early levels in the Rocketfly as well.
[04:37:25] This clockwork has suddenly felt a bit more awkward to make work compared to how it did
[04:37:30] at the start.
[04:37:31] There's a Phoenix for the teamfight, okay?
[04:37:33] That's actually a speed hero, so I think it's post-fall call work.
[04:37:36] Yeah.
[04:37:37] I think the speed should be taking this.
[04:37:38] The speed could also just go lane top, right?
[04:37:43] You want to enforce the Phoenix against the tasks match up, I think.
[04:37:48] But I don't think they're willing to swap their lanes around.
[04:37:51] no speed is definitely going to play the phoenix and big num is going to play the
[04:37:55] clock but some teams will just enforce the lane they don't switch the players
[04:38:00] but they just put the players on the lane you know with the hero
[04:38:07] either way I don't think it's gonna be that big of a problem for them so we'll
[04:38:12] see what liquid response to this phoenix brewmaster they should be looking to pick
[04:38:18] I think they are mid hero here.
[04:38:21] 18 Park, Pernicia, still available fellas.
[04:38:27] Very little lockdown unless you see another Orchid brewmaster rush or some shit like that. They go over the weaver.
[04:38:34] Yeah, that's also a brewmaster counter, but that was what uh 33 did against weaver yesterday, the Orchid rush. Yeah.
[04:38:42] Weaver is very good into the clock. You can kill the cocks easily, very good into the egg.
[04:38:48] So it's an excellent pick here for for liquid
[04:38:52] I feel like the arcade rush thing was just a one-time thing that just caught out yamsum very badly in that game
[04:38:58] I think
[04:38:59] You won't be able to own the weaver as Bill wants to a bit of arcade rush
[04:39:03] That effectively more than once you know, maybe you can catch you on one time
[04:39:06] You know, but I don't think it happened another time. It's going to know it's coming though
[04:39:10] He can just kind of prep for it. I mean if you see the corner curve guy, you're gonna like play a bit safe
[04:39:18] I just wonder how this brewmaster kept his item build hidden.
[04:39:21] I mean surely sometime in the lane when he shows the farm creeps, you would have seen him.
[04:39:25] No, the thing is he put the recipe onto the support.
[04:39:28] So the support TP to the lane, hide at the tree and then he went to the tree to pick up the Orchid.
[04:39:32] Okay, so I get that.
[04:39:34] But if you see an oblivion staff in a brewmaster inventory...
[04:39:40] Yeah, I mean I know, what can you do, you know?
[04:39:42] I'm not saying...
[04:39:44] I'm not saying it's okay for him to die, I'm just saying, you know...
[04:39:47] Everyone, you're the one making excuses in your winter, we usually, we swap roles usually, you're the one calling me out when I'm giving people a bit too much leeway but
[04:39:55] Maybe Gamer Legion are gonna try and employ that idea because we've seen in some games how dominant Weaver can be into the Brewmaster, there's just not much you can do
[04:40:05] Weaver also pretty decent with the Ion Shell I guess, although they don't really have a
[04:40:15] very typical Dark Seer draft.
[04:40:17] I'd like to see some sort of vacuum combination that just doesn't exist at the moment, maybe
[04:40:22] still for the park but now it gets banned.
[04:40:24] So you choose to pick the Weaver to counter out the Brewmaster, you lose the Nisha Park
[04:40:28] potential.
[04:40:29] What other options do you have here maybe Lash but Lash kind of feels a bit ass into these
[04:40:36] heroes because who are you bursting down you can't kill the boomer Lash is kind of good
[04:40:40] I think.
[04:40:41] I actually think Lash is a good option okay we have a vacuum combo and Tars V likes playing
[04:40:48] with Lash or Queen of Pain like ranged damage heroes and it's definitely a potential pick
[04:40:56] here for them.
[04:40:57] He's been saying Lash to you, Asuka Ember Storm.
[04:41:07] Don't sound convinced but...
[04:41:08] Maybe it could be a Queen of Pain actually, apart from Lash.
[04:41:12] Because if you have one Queen of Pain, that actually makes sense to ban the Asuka and also the Ember Strip.
[04:41:20] Those two are definitely the highest priority, at least in my list you know.
[04:41:24] Lash and the Queen of Pain I really like the Lash late day I don't know if you're
[04:41:33] gonna see a sniper I don't think so I don't like the hero it's a 8 hitter but
[04:41:37] probably not the other option would be something like a Lena Lena might actually
[04:41:44] work here because you can hit the egg and you have Pulse and Shell Demon no we are
[04:41:52] all wrong. This makes a lot more sense with the Dark Sea although there's no team fight
[04:41:57] wombo combo I guess the closest thing you got is the aggrim scepter void spirit,
[04:42:01] you vacuum them in and then you silence them up. Like overall just good right it's the
[04:42:06] one hero that can get into the backline and stop the brew and the phoenix from popping their outs.
[04:42:12] Yeah it's definitely solid especially against the phoenix you can stop the sunray.
[04:42:16] It's not like a huge amount of burst damage in early game. I don't think he works very
[04:42:23] well with Tuss, but he's just good for the game. I think good for the mid game. Early
[04:42:27] game, not so much. So let's see if Gamer Legion can find something to kind of run at them
[04:42:36] in the early game. Because the Boi Spirit Tuss ST, those three heroes in the river, they
[04:42:40] not actually that strong.
[04:42:43] This is a gamer legion special.
[04:42:46] Forgotten hero.
[04:42:49] Well, not by gamer legion.
[04:42:51] In the recent PGR Wallachia America close qualifiers,
[04:42:54] they picked this in their final games.
[04:42:57] They believed in it on the off lane
[04:42:59] and they lost two games to Heroic.
[04:43:02] Now they're bringing it to the mid lane.
[04:43:04] I think the only team still picking this hero
[04:43:07] other than gamer legion are Falcons.
[04:43:09] and that's it other than that we do not see this hero at all so it has to be
[04:43:14] just a comfort thing because I can't really imagine why else they want it
[04:43:21] I don't know if it's actually really good here I'm trying to think of what can
[04:43:26] he do it he's really good at killing the SD can find him but also of that like a
[04:43:31] shark could potentially be annoying for you to roll into and Darkseer they can
[04:43:36] search away from you and so we use actually pretty good into pangol because the bugs still latch on you during role
[04:43:44] You know what?
[04:43:45] I hate the most whenever I see a pango and a clockwork on the same team that shit just places me off
[04:43:50] Yes, I feel like it takes you basically make it so much harder for yourself for no reason
[04:43:56] Clockwork either has to just be very careful with when he uses the cogs and then it makes an already difficult hero more unnatural
[04:44:03] or RCY is just gonna get caught on some random cog and he can't get the trajectory that he wants.
[04:44:09] Either way, both players have to be extremely confident on both of their heroes.
[04:44:13] And right now, Gameligeon, they've been looking a bit up and down, right?
[04:44:17] Hit or miss, 3 to 4 right now.
[04:44:19] I'm gonna make sure you don't take more Ls today.
[04:44:22] You know, it's gonna be last chance playoffs for you instead of a bit more cushy play-ins.
[04:44:27] They are both very interesting last picks to run or to draft, not something that I had
[04:44:36] in mind.
[04:44:39] But if I had to choose someone that I would favour, I would probably favour overall the
[04:44:47] Liquid side with the Void stream.
[04:44:48] I think it's more stable with the Void.
[04:44:50] They have a lot of better mid game timings.
[04:44:53] They have the auras on the darks here, they have the combo, vacuum into silence of the
[04:44:58] void spirit.
[04:44:59] As we compare that to what gamer Legion has, I think they need a lot more cooldowns to
[04:45:08] ping fight.
[04:45:09] The egg, the brewmaster split.
[04:45:11] I mean, Rhoads is kind of like a short cooldown, but that's about it, you know.
[04:45:14] So I think if Liquid can do the poking and prodding, bait out some auties, reset and
[04:45:19] fight, it'll be very beneficial for them.
[04:45:22] another game where the heroes all assemble in the mid lane across the opponent cliff first.
[04:45:28] Thankfully for Mickey he's on a weaver so he doesn't actually lose anything he's just shikuchi's away.
[04:45:41] Okay I'm gonna smoke here we go. Might see a kill. I have a chance here. Clalot might die.
[04:45:52] I'm going to try and push Mickey out of it, can't outclick him though.
[04:46:18] Only one rune for the gamer legion side.
[04:46:26] It's kind of getting in the favourable positions.
[04:46:28] The gamer legion going for two heroes with no facets.
[04:46:31] They say no facet, no problem. We're gonna win anyway.
[04:46:36] I thought you were telling me no facet equals OP.
[04:46:39] Well, in the blue master's case, that's what we were suggesting.
[04:46:42] But with this pango, I don't know.
[04:46:44] I still don't really understand why gamer legion like this hero so much. The only guess I have is just pure comfort
[04:46:52] But I think like you keep mentioning just pure comfort isn't really enough at this level
[04:47:00] Maybe the hero isn't that bad yet. I had a friend that plays a lot of
[04:47:07] He told me that after the second
[04:47:10] buff
[04:47:11] If you said the heroes actually play well, but you need to play in a different way
[04:47:15] So what you have to do now is you have to max your Q and you don't even skill your your jump
[04:47:22] Yeah, what's what's the plan there? How do you you do you only get a nice dollar?
[04:47:26] Yeah, you play more on your because they buff the source popular range and it's physical damage
[04:47:32] So you use it with the lucky shot to do damage in the
[04:47:36] You keep the shield just at one. Yeah, that's what he was telling me
[04:47:39] Okay, let's see what RCY does here whether it's going to I assume you still have to go for that if you use old
[04:47:47] Yeah, probably still the same bill, but just the way you take your spouse are different
[04:47:54] He's taking right now is a bit of a beating from Nisha here in the mid lane still doing well in the CS though
[04:48:01] Talked about this mid lane matchup being of importance for both teams the main difference is you're no longer tanky
[04:48:08] So you have to play more on damage. You're trying to deal damage with the hero. That's why you're maxing Q and E.
[04:48:15] I don't know if he's going to do that this game, but we'll see.
[04:48:18] The funny thing about the Gamer Legion lineup is, in their last pick, the one thing I didn't think they would need is more damage.
[04:48:25] It feels like they have that portion of the requirements covered.
[04:48:30] I thought they might need a little bit more lockdown because right now you pop the egg, you pop the split.
[04:48:35] you don't really have anyone to keep them in the vicinity you don't have that
[04:48:39] control right yeah it's gonna mostly come from the roll and a hook shot not
[04:48:45] the most reliable control in the teamfights see the thunderclap come out
[04:48:51] they put the hands on fade nice shards at the last moment fade is in trouble but
[04:48:56] a lot of damage coming through from the calls onto boxy he's being tossed around
[04:49:02] you ever sit on those carnival rides where you're in one of those like swirling little
[04:49:07] cupcakes, that's probably what it felt like for Boxy there.
[04:49:12] Disruption used make lag.
[04:49:15] So Cheryl Demon is a new Phantom Lancer right now?
[04:49:20] I guess so.
[04:49:23] Won't use, no problem.
[04:49:24] Tofu ever the considerate one.
[04:49:26] Then that Boxy completely dry on mana.
[04:49:29] So Bignum, patching out the tusk, they put a decent amount of damage on the brew, forcing him out of the lane, but it still should be able to stand around in CS while the aggressive potential for Liquid now not quite as viable.
[04:49:41] Still a big stick and the Lotus now claim though, so resources still okay. No one really suffering, just the off laners lagging slightly behind in farm.
[04:49:51] Any particular lane matchup that you want to look at Winter?
[04:49:57] lane we're looking at right now is probably the lane that has the highest
[04:50:00] potential of kills happening. Yeah big numbs dead. Okay. What's that manor? Roll him down.
[04:50:05] Very nicely done. Tossed weaver. I think it's something Lickly I've been doing quite a lot.
[04:50:09] They moved Toffu to the off lane and boxy to the safe lane. But Toffu is not really
[04:50:14] playing like he was like Tossed. He's not playing much of the melee heroes.
[04:50:19] It's just a bit weird because you think that the Toss would go play with the
[04:50:24] Darkseer right just feels like a more natural combination. I guess in this particular case the shadow demons somewhat of a liability and
[04:50:31] Maybe he's more reliable when it comes to creating those stacks for the Darkseer to come back to. It's the stack
[04:50:38] Darkseer wants the stack
[04:50:44] And I guess the rune
[04:50:47] Nice disruption
[04:50:49] No.
[04:50:50] He's gonna catch me to the corner.
[04:50:52] No one to dive now, buddy.
[04:50:54] Still healing up.
[04:50:55] Gotta load this.
[04:50:56] Got a fairy fire.
[04:50:57] He's doing a lot of damage with the dying life.
[04:51:00] Not gonna use that fairy fire.
[04:51:01] Just accepts his fate for the reset.
[04:51:03] Nisha gets himself the rune and the kill.
[04:51:07] Now there's the belly right there.
[04:51:09] Tofu is saying this is why I'm playing the SD in the bottom side.
[04:51:14] So true.
[04:51:15] Yeah, but I imagine the biggest reason is the stacking. He can stack a lot on the bottom
[04:51:21] side. That's why you see mostly position 4 share of damage. There are some teams that
[04:51:24] use it on 5, not many, like 1 or 2. But usually you just want him to be on the position 4
[04:51:30] so he can stack. He's not really needed that much on the lane and you can actually get
[04:51:34] a lot of levels from the stack.
[04:51:35] Fade's going to get run down in the top lane again. That Weaver-Task combo that you talked
[04:51:39] about, Liquid putting it to work. And all Big Num can really do is try for the pulls,
[04:51:44] boxy's hot on his heels is blocking those creeps I don't know I much as you can
[04:51:53] and this is the second time yeah we see a blue master getting just absolutely
[04:51:57] dumpster in the lane yeah ace was the first victim today in this room and now
[04:52:02] it's fate it's very very reminiscent of that game I think it was also 14 CS around
[04:52:09] six me and remember it's having a similar amount of last six
[04:52:15] yeah liquid probably looking at fate right now is that I know that feels
[04:52:19] brother it happened to me an hour and a half ago yeah see what the fate can
[04:52:23] adapt and overcome I mean he she has orchid on his quick buy but having such
[04:52:28] a terrible stuff I'm not sure if orchid should be on your quick buy I mean
[04:52:33] orchid's a great item into the entire liquid lineup regardless right not when
[04:52:38] you'll be high you know like this is either you buy it or you buy it as soon as possible.
[04:52:42] What else are you gonna get? Rolling thunder, big num gets killed off, and very smart play
[04:52:49] from Boxy getting bumped up to the high ground. You gotta keep in mind that Boxy spent a large
[04:52:55] part of his past few years playing against one of the most prolific pangol pickers in
[04:52:59] the world, Quinn. So he knows how to deal with that.
[04:53:04] Oh blue master he's getting surrounded again that all kid further slowed down if he goes
[04:53:19] down here no ball for the Shikuchi nicely done I mean don't even talk about slowing
[04:53:25] down it's feel like he shouldn't even be buying all here anymore what's the plan Midas then
[04:53:32] Yeah, maybe.
[04:53:33] Buy a minus, buy a better buyable.
[04:53:37] The Wisdom Shrine is completely uncontested, and Big Num is a bit late.
[04:53:43] He expects that maybe Nisha might come swinging through with the Invicts' Room,
[04:53:46] but doesn't realize that Nisha's already there.
[04:53:49] And now they're looking towards fate.
[04:53:51] He just TP'd up here, he needs some help and RCY's gonna come through,
[04:53:54] but he used the Rolling Thunder a bit earlier.
[04:53:56] He doesn't have that ultimate, putting the damage out onto Mikkei,
[04:53:59] The Weaver will still survive, get the time lapse off and escape.
[04:54:03] That is brutal, and you still have a dissimilar to the low ground Nisha,
[04:54:07] just playing around with them, gets out of dodge, and meanwhile bot lane.
[04:54:11] Gamsun and Speed getting run down.
[04:54:13] Bot C TP'd here after influencing that fight in the top lane.
[04:54:16] Liquid there on fire right now.
[04:54:19] 4K goal lead, not even 8 minutes, 8 and 0.
[04:54:22] Liquid is just not really making any mistakes at all.
[04:54:27] of our perfect gameplay for the first eight minutes of the game.
[04:54:31] And Gamer Legion, they're just going
[04:54:33] to have to find a move with the Rolling Turner.
[04:54:37] They have to stop the rod as soon as possible.
[04:54:40] Use the Rolling Turner to get a kill on the sidelines.
[04:54:46] I mean, I don't even feel like he can actually just sit back
[04:54:48] and farm on the pangol for the diffuser.
[04:54:50] He actually needs to find an angle
[04:54:52] to help his team on the sidelines.
[04:54:53] Holy shit.
[04:54:54] Look at the network, dude.
[04:54:55] The Shadow Demon is close to your Brewmaster right now.
[04:54:58] That's your off-blader.
[04:54:59] Barely gotten anything.
[04:55:01] I didn't think we could see a game for Brewmaster
[04:55:04] that looked a bit rougher than Asus one earlier,
[04:55:06] but fate is absolutely eating shit right now.
[04:55:09] Probably wants a bottle of beer to down it.
[04:55:11] Drink away his sorrows because this is rough.
[04:55:15] He's not even getting, but yeah, he's trying to rush it,
[04:55:17] but there's less of a rush and more of a crawl.
[04:55:21] Oh, I can't believe he bought the corner cup, yeah.
[04:55:24] I feel like maybe he thinks he doesn't really have an option at this point.
[04:55:34] Just because the decision make it work doesn't mean you can make it work you know.
[04:55:37] He's gonna try, I mean nothing wrong with learning from the best but.
[04:55:42] Nothing wrong with learning from the best.
[04:55:44] Adoro is also all about adapting.
[04:55:47] He did it in a game where he was snowballing.
[04:55:49] You are not snowballing my friend.
[04:55:53] you're getting snowballed at, you know, if anything.
[04:55:56] Quite literally, Boxy has not given up on the pressure at all,
[04:56:00] although the calls have been very annoying for this task,
[04:56:03] so much so that he's even keeping a spare mango in the pocket,
[04:56:06] just in case of an emergency like that.
[04:56:14] Okay, well, Liquid continuing to strike in this top lane
[04:56:17] because they know that's where Gamer Legion are the weakest.
[04:56:20] Two wisdom shrines means that your Shadow Demon
[04:56:22] has his ultimate and your clockwork is level three. Aside to behold ladies and gents, this
[04:56:27] is as rough as a pub game. If it's a pub game, your teammates are already typing and
[04:56:36] with no defense. But as you know in C, whenever someone says that, do not believe them. Absolutely
[04:56:44] not. No, that's the never believe them. The Southeast Asia and King of legend. Again,
[04:56:52] speaking of being snowboard, boxy under the tower.
[04:56:55] Well, trying to get bumped up to the high ground
[04:56:57] by his own shards, the pango,
[04:56:58] knows that he doesn't want to help him escape,
[04:57:01] so waits at the very last moment to come in with the rolling,
[04:57:04] good control there from the pango,
[04:57:06] and RCY will finally come in
[04:57:07] and punish boxy successfully.
[04:57:12] First skill on the board for Gamer Legion.
[04:57:16] Blue Master's gonna probably get level six out of that.
[04:57:18] So a little bit more.
[04:57:20] Small steps, you know, they have to take small steps at every single time.
[04:57:27] The Gamer Legion were able to take a very convincing 19-minute win against Reconyx yesterday.
[04:57:33] I think that might have been the shortest game of our tournament so far.
[04:57:36] Now getting the tables turned on to them.
[04:57:39] Being snowballed against hard, 5k gold lead not the end of the world just yet.
[04:57:43] Jamsun is still farming decently, RCY has an OK game.
[04:57:48] problem is the man on your screen here fade he just has to keep backing all the
[04:57:53] way up to the tier two not even allowed to get this big wave of the XP not even
[04:57:59] allowed to live my goodness as that primal split forced to use it
[04:58:02] defensively nothing much to be found here though I mean Mickey's just standing
[04:58:07] there auto attacking the wind pandan just because he can
[04:58:11] and maybe they can find something in the bottom bottom area rolling thunder is
[04:58:19] coming up cooler in five seconds and they have to try and do something here
[04:58:27] I mean the problem is they don't actually have enough damage to kill the
[04:58:31] darks here. The ace has a back down already.
[04:58:35] Ports. I mean, I guess specifically Big Num continuing to get caught out. He's easy pickings.
[04:58:43] A clockwork when you're behind just feels like such a liability, man. I don't know.
[04:58:47] He did a decent job in lane, just trying to bounce them back and keep Boxy at bay, but
[04:58:51] I feel like there's only so much he can do. Out comes an ultimate for Tofu. Speed still
[04:58:56] doesn't have his egg. Though the supernova's not a factor. You can't save Jamsun. And Tofu's
[04:59:01] even using his body to get in the way. This is cruel. That's just cyber bullying right there.
[04:59:11] Not much game religion can do. And all the tree cause not really ready for fight. And Pangos the
[04:59:17] only one they can actually fight. He has the freezer done. Like he has to somehow create a
[04:59:21] miracle situation for his team. I mean in my mind the plan is probably trying to rotate over to the
[04:59:28] brewmaster when he has split the next time they could try and go for the kill. As this mid lane
[04:59:32] is not going to be easy especially since liquid have been swarming the area and have superior control.
[04:59:41] You've got your greaves done on ace already so any fight that you take that he's involved in
[04:59:44] that's going to be a problem to actually take down any of these heroes.
[04:59:49] He's being run at now in the top lane. Split not available for 30 seconds which means his life
[04:59:54] It's not going to be available. Warren's punch. Bye. Bye
[04:59:59] He's the only obvious yeah, he's tilted
[05:00:05] Yeah, well, he's gonna be all guys no war was punch, okay, bro
[05:00:11] Like I don't
[05:00:14] Maybe thought the tusk already used it. It's just weird man
[05:00:18] I guess they just want to push the issue because they don't have much tower push.
[05:00:30] Speaking of push the issue, Nisha's just diving the tier 2.
[05:00:32] Must be a vast bibe.
[05:00:35] 14 minute wisdom shrine, they can fight with the supernova.
[05:00:37] This could be the timing that they're looking for.
[05:00:39] RCY with the defuser first, needs to get in with the swash, finds his way onto the wisdom
[05:00:42] shrine but Jensen finds his way into a wall.
[05:00:44] Now, supernova and the high guard on Nisha in trouble, still should be able to just create
[05:00:48] the distance and walk away. They got the interrupt on RCY not allowing for the roll and RCY will
[05:00:53] drop. The binder from the clock comes in too late to save this mid and now boxy the one in
[05:00:58] trouble. Saved by the disruption, Liquid can still fight this. I think away now,
[05:01:03] search not gonna save him as Jensen standing his ground. Perhaps Gamer Legion have outlasted
[05:01:08] Liquid but the big poison stacks. Tofu, he's been building them up the whole time. Meteor hammer
[05:01:13] some conks just for the vibes why not keep looking for the chase Nisha trying to find an angle in
[05:01:21] holds in the brewmaster not the target that he wanted or settle for speed
[05:01:30] Nisha is really really low and he's still standing behind hitting up at the end
[05:01:34] still wanting to turn around to fight and they know that they're so far ahead that he
[05:01:39] he can actually do that and the thing is the whole fight ace didn't even use his
[05:01:44] grieves yet so he still had those available yeah big burst damage I don't
[05:01:50] think Jamsen was expecting that at one point after the borrowed time full HP
[05:01:54] bam 750 the magic damage just in one shot tofu quietly the big damage dealer
[05:02:00] of that fight he kept quiet gonna get spotted out here on his little rendezvous
[05:02:05] mission. Ported out by Nisha on the side is Fade though. The blue master is in big trouble.
[05:02:10] I mean he loses support for the off lane that feels like a support at this point and he
[05:02:13] doesn't even die. Fade is going to be fine. Maybe Nisha is over committed. Stern Astro
[05:02:17] step big remnant damage though. Okay, not too bad they defend their area but can they
[05:02:22] defend Yamson? Broad time available, just want to proc it and walk away. Alright, it's
[05:02:30] Not over, Ace is behind.
[05:02:32] Oh dear, Jamsen being pulled in and they know all the Gamer Legion heroes are busy in the top lane, responding to Nisha.
[05:02:39] No one to help their carry out here.
[05:02:45] Yeah, I mean this is looking really really rough.
[05:02:48] They've been doing a good job kind of holding the game for the last couple of minutes but...
[05:02:53] Yeah, I mean it's tough.
[05:02:54] I mean the blue has an orcate but so what you know I don't know how much he can do with
[05:03:03] the orcate here.
[05:03:16] And the way I can see maybe a comeback from Gamer Legion is that it somehow lands some
[05:03:20] combo with the rolling thunder and some egg on the couple of heals maybe take a fight as a rush
[05:03:26] tormentor you know something like that you know
[05:03:30] let's need to take a good team fight you still have the team fight spells you have the orchid
[05:03:34] actually some hope i think maybe they can actually land some spells effectively
[05:03:39] you know wait out the radiance from a balance let's try to take a fight
[05:03:43] I'm sure there's still like 20% chance to win or something along those lines here.
[05:03:50] Or maybe less.
[05:03:51] That is a pretty cool Meteor Hammer build.
[05:03:52] Speed's gonna get caught out.
[05:03:54] No die for you.
[05:03:55] The sheer amount of burst.
[05:03:57] My goodness, Nisha.
[05:03:59] Woo!
[05:04:00] That's cruel.
[05:04:01] AD Rune.
[05:04:02] Hi, it's Meteor Hammer back.
[05:04:07] She saw it on BZM the other day.
[05:04:10] that's pretty nice for heroes that can set it up for themselves and RCY will get
[05:04:14] caught as well. It seems really good on Invoker or it seems really good on
[05:04:19] Void Street. The other hero that's buying Meteor M is Skyrath.
[05:04:25] That's like a support right compared to the cause. I mean it makes sense when we
[05:04:31] see the max remnant build that seems to be the trend now for these Void spirits.
[05:04:35] The amount of damage that you take from that proc and you want to max it early
[05:04:39] Anyway, because these boys spirits are getting their shots of farm, right? They come on the front lines
[05:04:44] Nice shots get to the logra. I mean you walk up your orchid, but he already shikuchi's faster than you. So I
[05:04:52] Don't know about that
[05:04:54] Fade currently has a max thunderclap built no Cinderbrew at all
[05:05:00] I get vision control of this area
[05:05:03] Give him a D-Ward, but maybe this is the fight that gamer Legion were looking for
[05:05:07] Ace is gonna investigate on the front lines who dares stick around just gonna be big numb who shout out to safety
[05:05:13] Meteor hammer on nothing. Okay, Nisha just trying to scare them away. I guess and vision clear
[05:05:20] Prangle controlled gamer Legion. I thought they were gonna go in there
[05:05:23] But just not really timing the orc it with the rest of the spells
[05:05:28] Yeah, Ace has pipe coming in the career, but that's actually literally no way they can fight now
[05:05:33] does feel like that opening pre-pipe might have been an opportunity but with
[05:05:38] the pipe coming out all of the damage that you have on Gamer Legion it's gonna
[05:05:43] just look kind of pathetic and you still haven't really seen this pangol get a
[05:05:48] good roll off in any sort of team fight that's not really his fault though Gamer
[05:05:52] Legion just have not taken a team fight
[05:05:57] they can't this can't you know there's too far behind it's not that they are
[05:06:01] intention and they need running away but it's just mainly because they can't fight give us
[05:06:07] one more kill on liquid for the magic number and I'll be pleased even if this game is a storm
[05:06:14] I thought you were a more mature person than that you oh oh my bad sorry see you looking at the beams
[05:06:22] I mean it's about the culture man you got to show respect
[05:06:31] It's important to call these things out, you know.
[05:06:36] You gotta know ball.
[05:06:38] Yeah, maybe for you, you know.
[05:06:41] It's important for you.
[05:06:43] Alright, so what's important here for Gamer Legion?
[05:06:48] What do they need to do?
[05:06:49] Because we keep saying take a team fight,
[05:06:51] but clearly it's not so straightforward,
[05:06:53] because Liquid are just not giving them the opportunities.
[05:06:55] They're wrapping around the map,
[05:06:56] mopping up these areas, playing cleanly and tightly together.
[05:06:59] And Gaman Legion actually take a 5v5 or do they need to make sure liquid is split up?
[05:07:04] I mean they have to try. I don't think liquid is going to be too split up when they take the team fight.
[05:07:09] I mean they're going to split up now.
[05:07:11] Right now maybe that's going to be a good opportunity. AC is so far away.
[05:07:15] Two spots hiding around the tree line.
[05:07:17] AC sleeping mid. Coming away is Auras.
[05:07:21] Ignum thinking about it. Just going to be Tofu showing himself at the moment fade as well.
[05:07:26] A herself a good start to the fight for the first time.
[05:07:28] Boxy on the front lines, pushed around by the cogs again, but chasing fearlessly forward.
[05:07:32] Once the snowball on, they've already found speed.
[05:07:35] The second support in their sights, Vietnam will drop as well.
[05:07:39] I thought for sure that Gamer Legion was setting up for something there, but they just didn't have the pieces together.
[05:07:47] I think it's also kinda hard for him to just straight up initiate.
[05:07:51] You don't have dagger and a panglo.
[05:07:53] You're only relying on what Hulk shot.
[05:07:55] Blue Master is not exactly a good initiator, he's kind of like a follow-up, and it's just
[05:08:01] tough you know.
[05:08:02] I don't really have the tools.
[05:08:03] And the best thing they could do is what they tried just now, they tried to hold a high
[05:08:07] round, put a ward there, wait for Liquid to run up, but Liquid was just too good you know,
[05:08:11] they just waited patiently until everyone was ready before they ran up you know.
[05:08:16] I'm surprised at reading every situation very very well.
[05:08:22] Hookshot on some creeps, okay, Ace is completely fine, big number of that initiation, gotta
[05:08:27] find his own death instead.
[05:08:29] Silence out onto Nisha, but you still have that disruption to save if needed and Fates
[05:08:33] not even gonna bother popping the split, he knows there's no kill to be found there.
[05:08:38] I don't know, that was weird, what was the plan with that hookshot?
[05:08:45] I guess they were planning to hookshot and then try and silence him, but like, he has
[05:08:50] grieves so that wouldn't have worked, I don't know, that's weird.
[05:08:55] It's just a desperate attack you know.
[05:08:58] You know those games when you play in pubs where you already know that you're probably
[05:09:01] gonna lose and then you're like, I just want a game to end faster so I just pretend that
[05:09:05] I'm trying to initiate and do something you know.
[05:09:08] Cause you don't want to just lose the game without trying to do anything right.
[05:09:11] Yeah.
[05:09:12] Try to go for some play.
[05:09:14] It might be the situation here for Gamer Legion though.
[05:09:16] Again, this match, pretty important for them to try and stay out of last chance playoffs.
[05:09:21] But with the way things are looking, they will probably stay near the bottom of the standings
[05:09:26] unless they're able to turn it around in their subsequent games.
[05:09:28] There's a hookshot onto Tofu, good first target.
[05:09:31] And they commit onto him, you need to split, there you have it.
[05:09:34] Still disrupting himself, in comes Nisha with a silence onto everyone on the back line.
[05:09:38] Tofu will just walk away.
[05:09:40] R.C.Y. is still going to try and chase him down but the rest of your team they're losing their lives.
[05:09:44] There's the 8 but it gets easily dealt with.
[05:09:46] They get the trade of support but now Jamsun's left high and dry.
[05:09:49] No more borrowed time vacuumed in and Micky will finish the job a wall
[05:09:53] to seal the deal and pull back in Clockwork as well.
[05:09:57] It's looking way too easy for Liquid.
[05:10:02] It's looking way too impossible for Gaviridion right now.
[05:10:05] There's too far behind.
[05:10:07] There's no apparent synergy in the teamfights with their heroes.
[05:10:10] Very hard to initiate. He'll get to Blue again.
[05:10:14] No split.
[05:10:15] Still has that Aegis. Not fearful at all.
[05:10:18] Will just go in and kill the Blue just like he has been doing the whole damn game.
[05:10:24] There's Panda Violence right there. They get the first life.
[05:10:26] Nice vacuum.
[05:10:28] No further follow up though.
[05:10:30] Dodge out of the way.
[05:10:31] Here's Big Num thinking about a hook shot. Who'd go hook shot though?
[05:10:33] Onto Mike.
[05:10:34] Use his time lapse already. He's dropping low. The call is again doing a number.
[05:10:38] but they're still able to save Mickey and kill the clock.
[05:10:41] Heroes dropping like flies on the gamer legion side.
[05:10:45] This draft has not worked out for them in the slightest
[05:10:47] and just like their run in PGL America's qualifiers,
[05:10:51] this pango looks like ass, man. I don't know.
[05:11:00] I don't even think it's his fault this guy. I mean, it might not be fair to blame him
[05:11:04] because the blue master got so shut down you you have only two calls in this game
[05:11:08] because blue master didn't have a game at all
[05:11:12] and i can agree maybe pangol wasn't the best pick but if you're asking if they
[05:11:18] lost because of pangol i wouldn't say so
[05:11:21] well also some of these earlier rotations from nisha were so much more
[05:11:25] impactful right yeah but it's also it's easy when
[05:11:29] the tusk and we were there was snow boiling out of control so the tusk was
[05:11:32] also ganking the other lanes making it easy for the void to rotate yeah I mean
[05:11:36] all just let out control from the brewmaster and clock's lane you know
[05:11:40] the lane just went way too back it's kind of weird because even if they went
[05:11:43] even like you look at clock Penix and pango it doesn't feel very oppressive
[05:11:50] right like it no but if it's a let's say a 50-50 game I think there's a lot more
[05:11:57] potential in that game fight here but because the early game just went so bad that it actually meant
[05:12:03] that the abandoned also got pressured right so not only you have a poor brewmaster the Tars is
[05:12:07] ganking the abandoned so both side lane calls didn't really have a very good start of the game
[05:12:13] before being surrounded nice four star kill escaped a wall onto three rolling thunder forced
[05:12:18] they turned their sides towards ace but that is not a site you want to see a full hp down
[05:12:23] 2 oras to boot, that's an egg. Trying to keep them at bay, the split as well, but they can just run.
[05:12:29] I mean, Nisha's just avoiding it on the back line completely with Mikkei.
[05:12:33] They are just playing around this fight. This is cruelty from Liquid.
[05:12:38] Pointing with their food as Gamer Legion. There's nothing they can do.
[05:12:43] Woo!
[05:12:48] GG, GG.
[05:12:49] There you go.
[05:12:50] And the game has been over for quite some time already.
[05:12:53] But well played to Laker, you know.
[05:12:55] They played the flawless game.
[05:12:57] They made a very, very good rotation.
[05:13:00] They played around Nisha a lot.
[05:13:01] They controlled the runes.
[05:13:02] Makin' game into the fight earlier as well.
[05:13:05] They just kind of enabled each other.
[05:13:07] It's had a very good game this time because the game was kind of easy for him.
[05:13:11] his teammates just, just so much that he was able to farm his aura items very, very quickly
[05:13:17] and just eliminate any chances of game and they just can win in the teamfight, you know,
[05:13:20] because they had no damage against the Darkseer.
[05:13:23] Yeah, Liquid doing very well to further climb the ladder in the standings
[05:13:27] and that will put them at a nice score of 6-4.
[05:13:30] They have the chance to end the day on a high with a win against Heroic.
[05:13:35] That's their last game of the day.
[05:13:37] That might put them in a decent contention for first seed.
[05:13:40] if none of these other teams vying for that spot,
[05:13:43] can pick down any of their opponents, right?
[05:13:45] Because right now, it's Navi at 6-3,
[05:13:48] and then it's only Tundra with seven wins.
[05:13:50] So if they have the other team to get seven wins
[05:13:51] and none of these other teams come close,
[05:13:54] they might just be booking themselves a ticket
[05:13:56] directly to Meltah, back where they belong
[05:13:58] as an organization at least.
[05:13:59] But in this game, I feel like there might have been
[05:14:03] some opportunities for Gamer Legion
[05:14:05] if fate didn't get so slapped around, like you said.
[05:14:08] But at the same time, it's a mix, right?
[05:14:10] Like you said, there were games where, for example, 33 was on the Brewmaster,
[05:14:15] but because of the support combination in the lane,
[05:14:17] he was able to snowball and punish Gamer Legion, actually, of all people, on that Weaver.
[05:14:22] So the Weaver isn't an outright counter pick.
[05:14:24] It's just paired with the task, and then you look at your lane partner,
[05:14:27] it's a clockwork, like, what are you even going to do there?
[05:14:29] I think the construction of the draft was just a bit confused from Gamer Legion.
[05:14:34] Yeah, I think that's also pretty important that
[05:14:37] He looks at the support heroes, and it's not just about the brew against the viewer matchup.
[05:14:41] I think overall, to enable the brew, you might want to think about maybe prioritising picking a ranged hero.
[05:14:46] I think brewmaster, he really needs a ranged hero on his lane to enable his laning phase.
[05:14:51] Because this hero becomes such a powerhouse the moment you get past the laning phase, if you get to your levels,
[05:14:57] you don't even need to win your lane, you just need to be able to survive.
[05:14:59] And your hero is going to be able to do a lot.
[05:15:02] There are two unlucky brewmaster performances for us here on the B stream,
[05:15:06] but for myself and Winter, that is going to be a wrap for the Blast Group Stage.
[05:15:10] Thank you so much for joining us, but we're not done.
[05:15:13] Coming up next, in terms of the Dota best of ones, the show's got to go on.
[05:15:17] So we've got our cryptic and Z-Quicksotics bringing you through the next series,
[05:15:20] Extreme Gaming vs. Rekonix. We'll catch you then.
[05:25:06] Welcome everybody to the second half of the final day of the group stage a rare case where we're actually not knocking anyone out
[05:25:13] Which I think is a nice change everyone will get to move on to play a few more games
[05:25:17] But whether you're playing last chance qualifiers versus being a little further up in the playoffs
[05:25:23] That could still be determined here. We're gonna hop straight into this one in a moment
[05:25:28] There was a little bit of a delay due to some tech stuff
[05:25:30] We're gonna get Ricky my fellow caster in here in just a moment
[05:25:34] You know how tech issues go in 2026
[05:25:37] But these players they're locking in hopefully no tech issues on their side. We got extreme versus Reconyx, which I
[05:25:44] Feel could be a pretty fun one
[05:25:48] Though if XG is playing well, they might just you know, they're favored. I think they
[05:25:54] They're more experienced team Reconyx having some good showings at times, but a little bit shaky
[05:26:00] a bit inconsistent in what they're going for.
[05:26:04] I think a lot of the people watching
[05:26:06] would probably expect that.
[05:26:07] They're like the underdogs having shown up here.
[05:26:09] And with that in mind, I think doing okay,
[05:26:12] you know, showing some decent signs.
[05:26:20] I am curious to see what the,
[05:26:27] well, for XGA, I feel like the style is.
[05:26:30] I think a lot of people are going to be quite familiar with it, where Aame, you know, he
[05:26:34] farms up.
[05:26:35] He's got some lane-winning hero.
[05:26:37] Everyone else helps to make space for him, set him up.
[05:26:41] For Connix, I think, has been kind of figuring out their style.
[05:26:43] That's part of the shakiness of showing up to the international stage for the first time.
[05:26:48] And then, you know, maybe not doing so hot in the group stage, so you're having to change
[05:26:52] your style.
[05:26:53] You know, you make all this prep, if you can just do it and go, you're fine, but when
[05:26:57] and you're losing, you have to adjust on the fly
[05:26:59] and that's where things get a little chaotic.
[05:27:01] We're so heckin' back, dude.
[05:27:03] We're so heckin' back.
[05:27:04] We're so back, yep.
[05:27:05] Little bit of a hiccups here,
[05:27:07] but we are good to go, ready for our,
[05:27:11] for you are my first game, not the first game of the day.
[05:27:13] We're five games deep already.
[05:27:15] We've got a long day in front of us though, right?
[05:27:19] If the first half of the day was short,
[05:27:21] you know, in terms of game time,
[05:27:22] that means the back half of the day
[05:27:24] It's about to be loaded with some absolute dumpy style games
[05:27:29] like just 60 minute, 80 minute, 90 minute games.
[05:27:32] Who knows?
[05:27:34] Yeah, if I had to predict,
[05:27:36] okay, I think XG is supposed to win this series,
[05:27:40] but I do know that when Reconyx,
[05:27:44] like I was just saying they've been a little bit inconsistent,
[05:27:48] but when they're playing their best,
[05:27:49] I think it's actually pretty good
[05:27:50] and they could pressure XG,
[05:27:52] But then XG is a good enough team that they can hold on for a really long time.
[05:27:57] This could be our drawn out game.
[05:27:59] And if not this one, I think we have Tundra versus Spirit later.
[05:28:05] Spirit has been looking a bit shaky, but if they are playing like their usual
[05:28:12] better style, which they can do, you're like, you never know with Spirit.
[05:28:15] They'll just turn it on one day.
[05:28:17] Uh, that could definitely be a very long game.
[05:28:20] both those teams just refusing to budge,
[05:28:23] drag it out with farming efficiency.
[05:28:29] I'm trying to look at like some of the other games
[05:28:30] that we have being like, you know, like, you know,
[05:28:33] which games am I most excited for?
[05:28:34] But realistically, like, since we're getting to the end
[05:28:37] of this group stage, like, no teams are eliminated,
[05:28:42] of course.
[05:28:43] So the big thing for me is which teams are gonna make it
[05:28:45] to that top two, like Tundra right now at seven and one,
[05:28:49] Which is just Tundra on their blasts, you know, buff.
[05:28:52] Like, I don't know what it is about this team.
[05:28:55] The fact that Tundra seems to always do well
[05:28:57] in the Blast time events is just,
[05:28:58] it's hilarious and awesome at the same time.
[05:29:00] But Na'Vi, it's six and three, man, they're killing it.
[05:29:05] We'll see what they can do, you know,
[05:29:07] if we're able to hold that position for Reconyx.
[05:29:13] It's looking unlikely that they're gonna make it
[05:29:17] out of the bottom four,
[05:29:18] which means they're gonna have to play
[05:29:21] in those last chance playoffs for those,
[05:29:24] you know, in the first, the bottom four slots,
[05:29:27] which are immediate elimination, you know,
[05:29:30] we'll see what they can, what they can do down there.
[05:29:35] But they could do the miracle run.
[05:29:37] They could learn everything and make it all the way through,
[05:29:42] which I don't actually think has happened yet.
[05:29:44] I don't think it's happened yet at a blast.
[05:29:47] I think the teams that usually do well in the group stage have then gone up.
[05:29:51] Well, okay, this is, I don't know how much value there is in the statement
[05:29:55] because it's Tundra.
[05:29:56] Tundra keeps doing well in the group stage and then they keep winning.
[05:29:59] But, you know, historically, if you do well in the group stage for this format,
[05:30:05] you tend to place quite high.
[05:30:08] Yeah, that's true.
[05:30:09] We'll see, you know, what they, what they get done.
[05:30:12] But I will say a little bit surprising is the team spirit, like in the bottom four,
[05:30:16] They're having a rough little bit in this event with the stand-in situation, but enough, I guess, of me derailing the conversation.
[05:30:26] We've got our first pick about to actually happen, which is great.
[05:30:30] The bands kind of all make sense to me, not a lot out of the ordinary there, right?
[05:30:34] Shadow of Daemon Triant, J'Kyro, a lot of the strong supports, and they'll remove the Mars Viper.
[05:30:41] The gyro is the biggest kind of question mark to me and then of course the Windranger.
[05:30:49] I think it's a, uh, not too me classic, the gyrocopter.
[05:30:52] Um, we got to see the, uh, Divine Rapier game yesterday.
[05:30:56] That was very exciting.
[05:30:57] Uh, and that's like one of the ways you lose on XG, right?
[05:31:00] You, like, they're a more experienced team.
[05:31:01] You're like, oh, a normal game, we'll definitely find a way to like beat them.
[05:31:05] Unless some crazy Divine Rapier comes out, you know, and you just lose in one chaotic moment.
[05:31:10] So I think it's a fine call and we have this is a Chinese team versus Southeast Asian team
[05:31:15] So a lot of the European teams, you know, you got a band that like razor viper Huskar
[05:31:21] Like real toxic heroes, but these regions play a little bit of a different style
[05:31:26] And so I think all these bands also make sense, but it's just a different preference, right?
[05:31:31] It's targeting the different teams and their their style
[05:31:34] So we get to see maybe we will get to see a Huskar game actually funny enough because it doesn't get banned
[05:31:40] I
[05:31:45] Be so down for it honestly like we have not really seen the hero much nope
[05:31:51] The other thing that's still in the pool is the razor which has gotten a lot of attention, but I
[05:31:58] Guess razor to me has kind of not been a hero super popular in these regions
[05:32:03] Like it's it's popular elsewhere, of course for sure, but we haven't really seen it played in
[05:32:09] In the China or the Southeast Asian region too much. It's not their priority. Yeah, it's like
[05:32:16] It's not really the place all the Mars though. That's the place though
[05:32:19] Yeah, they like the Mars disruptors another one that these regions prioritize a little bit more
[05:32:25] Which I do think it's pretty good. It's
[05:32:30] Well, yeah, I don't really have any complaints about it, you know, it's just a different style of how you want to to draft
[05:32:35] You do need heroes that kind of go in to make it work, because you need to see Tiglim's back and such.
[05:32:43] But it just, you know, just picking it this early, it's not the strongest laner, but it can have good pairings.
[05:32:48] So if you pick your carry matchup, for example, later on, and you know you might be landing into a Slardar,
[05:32:53] then Disruptor does well enough, and he pre-emptively shuts down a lot of popular mid picks,
[05:32:58] which we don't have very mid-bans this time, because there's been so much on supports and other roles.
[05:33:04] So the usual Queen of Pain, Puck, Storm, Ember, all those heroes are available, and all of them do not like this Disruptor hero.
[05:33:16] I'm really curious what they're going to pick for that, because a lot of supports are getting the attention in this draft, right?
[05:33:22] Like, four of Reconyx's bands are supports, which you don't normally see, right?
[05:33:28] Right that a lot of these end up slipping through as a result, but they are you know, they've got the disrupted
[05:33:34] They're like we've got one of the good ones, you know, what are they gonna be left with so for
[05:33:39] Ex Nova
[05:33:41] See what he's gonna grab. We'll take the shadow fiend first for a conic
[05:33:45] So a decent take away from extreme because when you run the slardar you definitely want that negative armor core to play around
[05:33:52] There are still a lot of options right with the clink's
[05:33:55] Like being one of them, the Templar Assassin being another.
[05:34:00] The Shadowfiend probably the most straightforward is it has the flexible potential of mid and safe lane.
[05:34:07] Yeah, the Slaughter could also move around so you do want something like SF.
[05:34:15] We'll see the Batrider ET come out. I'm not too surprised. These aren't... Well, Batrider is decently popular.
[05:34:20] E.T. is a little lower down, but with so many support bans, you are reaching lower into the hero pool.
[05:34:27] And this is one that, again, going back to regional differences, China has liked E.T. even when he goes out of the meta.
[05:34:35] It is still something that this region likes a lot.
[05:34:38] We'll see if this actually ends up being the support duo, because you can do some Batrider core. We have seen that.
[05:34:44] Though, funny enough, actually, Disruptor is often picked against it, since you kind of mess with the Batrider.
[05:34:50] So it's interesting to see them go for it here. You might just have to prioritize the Disruptor.
[05:34:58] I wouldn't be opposed to that.
[05:35:06] I'm trying to think if there was like a specific hero, they're picking the Elder Titan to maybe counteract, but it really is just...
[05:35:14] It is just the minus armor, I'm guessing, right?
[05:35:16] Like, it is like a somewhat synergy.
[05:35:19] I'll go for the tiny, which is not affected by Elder Titan Zora, so that is a pretty cool idea.
[05:35:29] Doesn't love to build armor items, though, so the Slardar will still be a bit annoying.
[05:35:35] Yeah, I mean if it's core tiny, he does get a lot of armor just from his, you know,
[05:35:40] Ultimates plus like you typically build like yule's and a four staff so he's not super he's not very easily caught I
[05:35:48] Would prefer this be like a mid tiny over a support tiny just for that reason like support tiny is gonna struggle a lot more against the
[05:35:55] so of course Lardar
[05:35:56] but
[05:35:58] It's also a little bit of a deny pick as well
[05:36:00] Like where comics is actually doing a good job at like denying like they're really really powerful combos from extreme like shadow fiend
[05:36:07] Slardar, but tiny elder Titan is a classic where you just throw the spirit onto someone
[05:36:12] He just sap away all their spirit resist
[05:36:15] Our spirit is their magic resist and then tiny just throws a throws like a creeper hero over and pops them so
[05:36:22] Spirit resist is what support players need to have yeah when the enemy mid is trying to kill you all the time
[05:36:31] Like this the shadow demon
[05:36:33] shadow shaman sorry
[05:36:35] Very nice pick good control. There's
[05:36:39] Not a lot of ways of canceling. There's the easy one in the stomp
[05:36:43] But if the stomp is down shadow shop is actually kind of free to go for his shackles here, which
[05:36:51] Always makes for a good shadow shop in game, I suppose and there's the clings
[05:36:58] That's some dirty negative armor synergy, yeah, sardar ET
[05:37:04] clinks with a deso. And then you still have decent magic damage from Batrider
[05:37:13] even as a support. I think if you just pick a mid hero, well you could still do
[05:37:20] the mid-star-dar. Your last hero, have it bring in some magic damage and then
[05:37:26] either more, I think you're good on initiation, probably like some auras
[05:37:31] potentially or another playmaker just go crazy fast I kind of like the idea for
[05:37:41] the Shrakman going for Guardian Greaves the Earth of Kunkka that would have been
[05:37:47] another really good one actually my thought was like a kind of a semi-front
[05:37:52] front liner. Kunkka a little bit more of a direct front liner, but I like the idea.
[05:38:03] For Xtreme, they have their kind of pick of litter when it comes to mid laners. I don't
[05:38:07] think they're going to go for a storm or an ember. They could ban out the ember if it's
[05:38:10] something they're genuinely worried about. If they don't think they have the counter
[05:38:14] pick to it, but now that Huskar is still in the game, I don't think you can really afford
[05:38:19] to pick the Umber Spirit here. I mean, granted, you would be playing Huskar into an absolute
[05:38:25] metric ton of minus armor, which is not great. Um, I think you just kind of want to keep
[05:38:34] your tiny mid and then not get like super counterpicked in the mid lane. I think the
[05:38:41] Lash is a pretty decent ban because it is like a Guardian Greaves builder. It does bring
[05:38:45] good damage. Okay, unironically, Largobah Offlane for Reconyx. You can remove the E.T.
[05:38:54] Spirit when he's trying to run you down. You can remove a lot of this negative armor and
[05:38:58] you can just build as an Aura Builder. I know the Ag's build is the most popular for Offlane,
[05:39:03] which I think you can still do and then just go back for all the armor Auras. I appreciate
[05:39:12] because I can always count on you to recommend Largo when I'm not thinking about it.
[05:39:17] I got you. I'm Largo-brained right now.
[05:39:20] You're right though. It is actually a pretty good lane matchup.
[05:39:24] It shuts down E.T. quite a bit, or the Batrider, whichever one they decide to put in the position, 5.
[05:39:28] But at this point, you know, seeing the clanks, it's for sure the Elder Titan.
[05:39:32] And Elder Titan really does need to play around the Astral Spirit lane.
[05:39:36] And we saw yesterday the Largobah sitting behind a shadow fiend is pretty strong
[05:39:45] Whatever they go with I think you do just want some something that helps provide armor aura because I mean you're clearly drafted that way on
[05:39:51] XG right they want to take away your armor and kill you with physical damage
[05:39:54] So you need to address that in some way which Largo has his bonus for armor from the grooving stacks
[05:40:00] But I don't know primal beast is like maybe another one
[05:40:03] I'm trying to think who else has some like extra armor
[05:40:21] Mid lane for extreme whoa it is gonna be a razor
[05:40:24] Okay, so more minus armor. Is that the idea here? Like, how much can we put in the draft?
[05:40:35] It's also a little bit hybrid though, because he does bring some magic damage to you, right?
[05:40:40] But yeah, I re- I re- double down. We need armor. Armor on this last hero. I need a crimson
[05:40:46] guard builder. Grieves for yourself is not bad. Someone grab a Vlad. I don't know. You
[05:40:52] need you need all of them. I mean the Underlord would have been pretty good
[05:41:00] because he's the Crimson Guard and Atrofiora. Primal Beast. Okay Primal's
[05:41:07] actually very durable but I think the idea behind this is he can kill this
[05:41:13] lane like pretty easily. Like Clinkz does not like playing against Primal Beast in
[05:41:19] lane at all. So it does give you some kill threat there, but Provis doesn't typically
[05:41:26] build things like Crimson Guard. You need a Blink Dagger a lot of times. You need like a BKB.
[05:41:32] His item build is a little bit forced if you want him to be a damage dealer,
[05:41:38] but if you want him to be an aura builder and specifically into something like a Crimson Guard,
[05:41:42] he has some of the best strength gain in the game. So it is a very, you know,
[05:41:48] worthwhile crimson yeah he has the uproar armor which will help in the
[05:41:55] meantime but it only helps him yeah exactly and like I said he's got to buy
[05:41:59] a couple other items which I kind of worry about the ultimate I know I
[05:42:01] throughout Primal Beast that's a possible option but I also worry about
[05:42:06] its full impact here mainly in how often he'll be able to get pulverized off but
[05:42:12] I suppose there's like there's only so many things you can change cancel because
[05:42:15] now it's like I gotta think about shackles I gotta think about finding this
[05:42:18] Disruptor I gotta get the pulverize I gotta stop the requiem so I mean there is a lot on your plate
[05:42:23] But you also have a lot of heroes who can like I'll do this you do that
[05:42:27] So I think XG is set up for
[05:42:33] success here I
[05:42:35] especially worry about
[05:42:37] This tiny having a rough time
[05:42:39] Yeah into the razor and then like these supports can all come over
[05:42:43] But I think like actually doesn't mind matching that to help themselves out and then tiny supposed to be the main playmaker
[05:42:49] And if he can't have a good game, I don't know what these supports will do going back to the primal beast needing help
[05:42:56] Yeah, when you play this matchup on the razor like
[05:42:59] It's kind of a little bit weird because you don't want to get too close to the tiny or else you can get tall
[05:43:03] So you don't want to be like too far from the tiny because then he'll just avalanche you and break the tether
[05:43:09] So you have to kind of play that sweet spot
[05:43:11] You know just like a few hundred range away from the tiny when you're static linking him
[05:43:19] But overall the lane should be pretty straightforward for the razor he's gonna get denied
[05:43:25] Like a decent amount the first wave
[05:43:28] I believe just because you know tiny's got his tree throw
[05:43:31] He's got like 20 more damage than the razor, but overall
[05:43:36] This should end up being a pretty straightforward lane for NTS
[05:43:39] I don't think he's going to be struggling at all. So let's jump into game
[05:43:43] Well, I was gonna say gamer one the only game of this series that is going to be that are a conics versus extreme these best of ones a
[05:43:49] Big one here for extreme because they have been kind of floating right in the middle of a group and we're gonna see which of these teams
[05:43:58] You know might be a contender for that second place spot here in the standings
[05:44:02] that's true though to be honest because no one gets knocked out the most
[05:44:07] important thing is to figure out your play style and the best heroes of the
[05:44:12] meta right yeah I think that's the number one priority just focus on your
[05:44:17] own self-improvement because you can make the deep miracle run all the way
[05:44:22] through no matter where you end up as long as you are playing well also the
[05:44:29] higher seed you are in this the you know the easier you know theoretically the
[05:44:36] team you're gonna be playing in those last chance qualifiers right because the
[05:44:39] top third and fourth seed will be playing the winners of the bottom four
[05:44:44] seeds so that's true but let's also face it you gotta be can I beat tundra like
[05:44:52] that's that's the question you got to ask yourself here and what do you make it
[05:44:57] all the way through. Are you good enough to beat Tundra even if you got like a better
[05:45:01] spot in the seating? I swear there's there's gonna have to like if Tundra wins again that
[05:45:16] has to be some sort of record for a team to like turn it like specific tournament type
[05:45:24] You know, like how many other teams can say that they won a certain event like four times in a row?
[05:45:29] The closest would be like Spirit when they had or not, like either Spirit or Secret
[05:45:34] and when Secret had like that one year where they won like 12 events or something, but...
[05:45:39] Yeah, it's like it wasn't just one series, you know, like one specific event.
[05:45:44] Yeah, I can't think of when like one team has done it for the same event so many times.
[05:45:49] It would have to be the couple like different iterations of teams that have had just like
[05:45:56] unbelievable streaks, right?
[05:45:57] The gaming gladiators year, where they just seemingly won everything.
[05:46:02] You had like ParaVision, you know, when they came back and started just winning everything.
[05:46:06] I don't know, I'll have to look through it.
[05:46:13] I'm sure there's a stat about it somewhere.
[05:46:16] Think like old VP long ago had like some insane runs as well. That's true for about that
[05:46:25] So this top lane we've got the Primal Beast with the shadow shaman
[05:46:29] This is a lot of just straight auto attack damage in this lane right like shadow shaman hits incredibly hard for a ranged hero
[05:46:36] So I was like actually walking up to try and harass like once he has his actual spirit out
[05:46:42] He's gonna get hit by the chicken fingers and take probably an extra auto attack or two
[05:46:47] So it might not actually be super worth it for him to try and
[05:46:52] Play aggressively with his spirit anyway
[05:46:56] Yeah counting the searing arrows just like the raw physical
[05:47:00] Damage in the right clicks in this lane is probably some of the highest. Yeah, you just need like treat protector in here
[05:47:05] maybe
[05:47:12] Oh, level two on the disruptor trying to punish
[05:47:17] The bad rider here, but won't be able to get in range for that Thunderstrike. So it'll be fine
[05:47:25] You get the kill if he gets one more Thunderstrike with the slow from Thunderstorm, but yeah rider pretty fast
[05:47:31] He's gonna get out of there
[05:47:32] But that's that goes back to the lane
[05:47:34] We were saying like disruptor tends to do well versus Batrider because you try to commit and you just glimpse him away
[05:47:38] Or you're trying to poke and then you get glimpsed into a spot where you didn't really want to commit yet
[05:47:42] You didn't have the napalm stacks ready. That's it back
[05:47:45] Yeah, just a simple glimpse protect him. Oh
[05:47:49] They get the elder type in the top lane though
[05:47:55] He's going for he's going for it he gets the curry he's going for the other one did if elder type loses this courier
[05:48:02] Okay, it's not gonna lose it. Oh, there's literally nothing on it. Never mind
[05:48:06] But well hopes and dreams could be on that courier
[05:48:09] There's an awkward sentry plant.
[05:48:12] He like drops it, sees that there's a sentry, and it's like, I'm not allowed to sit here
[05:48:16] and defend this, so just gives it up.
[05:48:20] Bottom line, they'll take down XXS as well as grabbing themselves.
[05:48:22] The load is cool, so very strong for, ooh, actually forked the wave.
[05:48:28] It's hard to say which lane that was actually for, but very good for the Shadows being starting
[05:48:35] off with the extra soul and the lasting presence stack in the lane. A little bit of extra minus
[05:48:40] armor does matter. I know pubs it would only backfire to show who fortified, but for pro
[05:48:49] matches I would be interested so that we could know like oh the mid was fortifying for this
[05:48:54] purpose like the off lane and pub is like who just fortified the tier two I'm reporting
[05:48:58] you who is this two. Oh no. I'll start pinging him. Yeah. Uh oh. I actually missed that raise
[05:49:05] But it should be fine. Yeah, I mean the other thing to you if this happens on the tail end of the lasting present stack and it refreshed
[05:49:12] So he now has two so this is this is a legitimate amount of virus armor
[05:49:17] He has an AOE aura of that Slardar's amplified damage right now
[05:49:24] Is will shove the lane though that is the downside is you know your creeps hit substantially harder on the wave now
[05:49:35] I'm trying to stop these poles since his sentry got killed earlier.
[05:49:40] This camp actually has a lot of like nifty spots to use to block the camp.
[05:49:44] Got kinda unlucky, he picked one where Exnova was right by, but maybe still should've picked
[05:49:49] one further out since Exnova was respawning.
[05:49:52] Oh my gosh, the damage!
[05:49:55] Very close, but yeah, the damage, like he said.
[05:49:58] Two points in the shackles, a lot of lockdown against the AT and Primal Beast.
[05:50:03] There's nothing you can do to stop this guy.
[05:50:04] As I was mentioning earlier, it's a great lane into the Clinkz, because Clinkz can't stop this hero from doing anything, it's not a fun time for him, but instead they're just punishing the elder titan because, well, if you take Stomp off the board, what can you do?
[05:50:19] It's also just so slow so they can stop you so many different ways even if you
[05:50:27] are trying to save the scomp. Six-minute rune coming up here catapults as well.
[05:50:35] We mentioned uh maybe putting the pressure on tiny he's not okay right he is kind of losing
[05:50:40] just a little bit but it is into razor so pretty understandable also not the question is who gets
[05:50:45] this power room. Level 6 on Tiny fortunately doesn't matter that much for these rooms. It's
[05:50:50] not like an Ember Spirit or a Storm, right? Yeah, you want 6, but you do most of the same
[05:50:55] stuff in terms of securing the room, and then you can get 6 after it's bottled.
[05:51:01] Honestly, it's not even like CS-wise. He's pretty much dead even with the Razor, right? Like, yeah,
[05:51:08] he's like a 4 CS difference or something, but against a matchup that we kind of expect to be
[05:51:13] not great for the tiny he's done really well but also for yeah that's actually one of the
[05:51:19] best six minute runes in the game. Honestly for NTS though like you don't want to actually
[05:51:23] max statically you need to max your plasma field so you actually have damage in the mid
[05:51:27] game especially if you're one who's trying to make plays around the map. Uh oh ET I've
[05:51:35] seen this one before a little awkward in the corner not the easiest to trample but yeah
[05:51:39] Yeah, we meant to, you cannot get the stomp out.
[05:51:42] So this top lane, going a lot better than I expected actually, I don't think they would
[05:51:46] find this many kills.
[05:51:48] The Clinkz is still farming, so you're kind of, honestly, in this top lane, X-Noma's been
[05:51:54] through it before.
[05:51:55] He's like, yeah, I make space for Ame, it's how it goes.
[05:51:59] Does Ame save me?
[05:52:01] No, I save Ame.
[05:52:03] So, it's sort of okay in that sense, E.T. can do a lot even from behind just because
[05:52:08] you just put the spirit in but it is like we said that the game would be hard
[05:52:13] for FBZ but if you're rich it's fine. Well now they do actually find Aume as
[05:52:18] NTS comes in they actually glimpse out the other side but a beautiful stomp
[05:52:21] comes in Aume's gonna survive with a razor there will force the TP out on the
[05:52:26] two and he will finish the kill now on to the disruptor so double kill for the
[05:52:31] razor mid thanks to the haste rune. In bottom lane you are alone now on the
[05:52:38] Shadowfiend, they saw your support's top side. They will try to run him down under the tower,
[05:52:42] bashed up. Requiem is available. It's gonna work. What a shackle coming through from the lul
[05:52:48] at the last possible moment. And the Batrider does need to be careful now. He gets the X.
[05:52:54] If he gets the Ethershock and an attack here, Chicken Pink, oh, that'll do it. I think he's got it.
[05:53:01] That'll do it. Reconyx, making it work. Thankfully, this bottom lane was going well for them,
[05:53:07] So jickroy already has the the falcon blade the power tread so he's pretty tanky
[05:53:12] I do think he it's still a little bit of a mistake to get caught out like that while your team is making a play top
[05:53:17] But he's simply rich enough that it worked anyways
[05:53:22] Very close
[05:53:24] Attempting the mid lane to stomp doesn't come out quite in time X know we'll get going to right back into the trio
[05:53:29] How long on the tiny spells looks like too long so X know was gonna survive
[05:53:34] But they managed to find a kill on to the razor a big one
[05:53:39] FBG is gonna go back to jungling it seems
[05:53:42] stacks
[05:53:43] Shadow shaman has made his way over in between killing the ET
[05:53:47] He's been stacking helping with the runes. So a lot of money going to FBZ, which means
[05:53:54] He's going for the blade mail first pretty understandable. We talked about all the physical damage how you'd need armor
[05:54:00] curious to see which way he goes next like do you just keep leaning into aura's like the crimson guard which I've seen some
[05:54:06] Primal beast do it works. It just feels weird because you can't really initiate
[05:54:10] But maybe that's fine because you have you got tiny you got shadow shopping disruptor. Yeah
[05:54:15] Maybe just need to be this tanky aura builder this game
[05:54:17] I'm gonna say like shadow fiends up here doesn't want to show so he's clearly waiting for a gank
[05:54:21] I'm like where is he?
[05:54:23] But they don't manage to connect and now your shadow fiend is showing they will find all made just barely with that
[05:54:30] century to toss back into the hands of the primal beast the dust comes out the
[05:54:34] stomp is there but one more auto attack in from the tiny in the shadow fiend will
[05:54:39] do it and this maybe they push the tower but not sure if you just gonna go back
[05:54:44] through the twin gate towards his bottom lane go back to farming good
[05:54:50] movement
[05:54:52] xg not seeing these coming I feel like they're always reacting to these plays
[05:54:58] The one bottom was the one day initiated to go for the SF.
[05:55:01] I guess the Razor, there was one Razor rotation with that Ace for it too.
[05:55:05] It's the two kills they have.
[05:55:12] Man, Primal Beast is a terrifying hero to have a good start on.
[05:55:16] If you are playing against a Primal Beast and this guy has taken your tower
[05:55:20] and is like towards the top of the net worth, you're gonna have a rough time.
[05:55:25] It's actually just opting for a blade mail of kind of a classic probably spilled like when blade mail was really over tuned
[05:55:34] This was a really popular pickup, but
[05:55:38] There's a lot of uncontrollable damage in this in this game
[05:55:43] And using serpent wars trying to get this other tower you already start the top tower now you're getting the mid tower
[05:55:48] That's really good in terms of I don't know if they can stop this
[05:55:52] like there's a catapult here plus the serpent wards tiny is just trying to take
[05:55:56] it up yeah bottling a little bit doing the same do it for the catapult
[05:56:01] protect it the toss yeah they got it no stopping this
[05:56:07] those more than halfway to his blink dagger at this point on the shadow
[05:56:10] shop and he's been having a great time I mean that that tower gold goes a long
[05:56:13] way as well. The Pollywog Massacre of 2026 so sad. He is not playing Largo. He's definitely
[05:56:25] not playing Largo. Where did that creep go? Crazy. Wait a minute. At least it's a nice
[05:56:36] thing for Amé the lane, kind of slipped out of control at the end there, but you do have
[05:56:41] death pack so it can speed up your farms to eating creeps.
[05:56:45] Uh, halfway to the deso.
[05:56:49] Though I wonder if he'll end up buying the shard instead.
[05:56:52] If he picks up some kills, he can probably get the deso and then go back for the shard.
[05:56:54] But a lot of clingses like to make sure they get the shard really early.
[05:56:58] But then you also want the deso really early.
[05:57:01] This is where you wish you weren't just losing the lane so that you could get both.
[05:57:06] to be able to do that. Yeah,
[05:57:14] you're also going for the build
[05:57:16] you talked about yesterday,
[05:57:18] where a little bit the mix of
[05:57:20] the spellcaster items, but the
[05:57:22] right clicking facet. Dude, this
[05:57:24] is I in my opinion, the
[05:57:26] strongest build for Shadowfiend.
[05:57:28] I don't know why we haven't been
[05:57:30] seeing more of it. I think the
[05:57:34] Shadowfiend spells are so
[05:57:36] The downside to this build is you're a lot squishier, and when you are playing against teams that have catch and engage, you like, you know, sometimes you'd itemize to be a little bit tankier, and so I'm a little bit worried about it this game.
[05:57:51] But they have such a lead that it might actually work, right? If you're this far ahead and you actually can get away with it, get to your Saanj- uh, I'm sorry, Kaiyasha, like, Blink, and then your BKB, I think you're in a pretty good spot.
[05:58:06] I like that you were very careful of the of the sardar. I like that you say like
[05:58:10] I don't know why this isn't the build and then went on to list why perhaps it's not the bill
[05:58:14] I mean, it's like that's that's like
[05:58:17] It's a lot of times shadow fiend like his his main weakness is that if they have heroes that just get on top you and beat you to death like
[05:58:26] That's that's what the hero struggles with but if you're able to play as the aggressor, you know with like a blink
[05:58:31] Requiem that instantly like wins you a fight then
[05:58:33] You know it kind of it just changes the playstyle I guess
[05:58:41] But I like this build more
[05:58:43] This game he should be protected like fpc is going for the crimson guard you do have for example the tiny right?
[05:58:50] I'm not gonna put myself at risk. You're going to throw them into me
[05:58:54] You're gonna glimpse them back, and then I will requiem very quickly because I have the finished
[05:58:58] and they're going to try to put it to you to use them trying.
[05:59:03] They know exactly what's going on.
[05:59:05] They will scan the other way.
[05:59:09] Alright, I'm up here.
[05:59:11] He's looking for a tossback on dream.
[05:59:14] Steal the trite.
[05:59:15] There's gonna be a sleep though.
[05:59:17] Oh no.
[05:59:18] And there's the lasso pulling in the shadow feed.
[05:59:20] He's gonna be able to get the requim inside the static storm.
[05:59:23] Okay.
[05:59:24] Your shadow feed just stuck for a moment.
[05:59:27] Thanks to the wards. He will TP to safety. He managed to protect your shrine, but a two for two
[05:59:34] Favouring I believe Reconyx
[05:59:37] He gets a razor. It has to be right. Yeah, and he jumped in and tossed the razor back
[05:59:42] So he stole the wisdom shrine and he's doing the other one now, too
[05:59:45] Okay, that was a successful shrine steal. You made XG TP to their own half of the map. You do lose your supports
[05:59:52] Yeah, but whatever right?
[05:59:54] really well time right jumps over the damage to so that was it was a nice
[06:00:00] earth splitter and like that combo looks pretty good but you just need a bit
[06:00:04] more damage and I actually think like if Alma had come over I know he wants to
[06:00:09] finish the deso and he wants to finish the shard and maybe if he was having a
[06:00:13] better game he would have had that item and willing to show up but he just bought
[06:00:18] off the shard instead of the deso yeah I think that's understandable because you
[06:00:22] want the farming speed the game's not going great right so like you're not
[06:00:25] fighting with the deso that much you're just trying to like push lanes catch up
[06:00:29] and take decent fights here and there would you don't even know nice flame
[06:00:33] break there from f1 but an avalanche hold them back long enough okay nice catch
[06:00:40] bottom onto fbz the primal beast is a tanky hero and not the easiest to bring
[06:00:45] down. They all claim themselves their first tower of the game here.
[06:00:59] Support in the air, a double ults available. You can actually kill the core heroes, even with just the support.
[06:01:07] Like it's a lot of damage. Yeah, this is Shadowshaw and Blink now. Just finished it up. 16 minute power runes
[06:01:13] to spawn top as an Invis, and Batrider will get his blink.
[06:01:18] So both initiators, essentially, having blinks on each team.
[06:01:26] You have the tiny blink and the starter blink for a little bit,
[06:01:28] but in terms of the supports, these guys can get the fight
[06:01:31] started as well.
[06:01:34] They are walking through a ward, though.
[06:01:36] They have a sentry placed in this area,
[06:01:38] but it is just short of that observer.
[06:01:40] So they're trying to be sneaky.
[06:01:41] Both sentries are just out of range.
[06:01:44] XG's also preparing for this.
[06:01:48] Who took the Invisory?
[06:01:50] Oh, they're just gonna go into Roshan instead. They're like, screw it. You know, we've got Shadow Shaman wards.
[06:01:55] Flashback to when these things could legitimately kill Roshan by themselves. That was a cool time.
[06:02:02] They still contribute quite a lot of damage. It's very nice to have it.
[06:02:05] And XG either doesn't know or just doesn't think it's not me just matters
[06:02:13] Although maybe that one. Oh my god. I actually controlled up though. He did not get to steal it
[06:02:20] Guys that's okay. Okay. It was really scary
[06:02:24] If it what if FBZ did not onslaught through there. He gets the ages
[06:02:30] I'm actually surprised it looked like he should be able to do it. Yeah, I don't think he had a slot
[06:02:35] I'm wondering if he actually didn't have an item slot. He had this. Yeah, he was like right there on time
[06:02:43] Maybe didn't clear the slot. Oh, I think he didn't yeah
[06:02:48] Very close. Oh, okay top side here
[06:02:54] The lol you're gonna try and maybe find something but unable to
[06:03:00] All right ages into the tiny is that the hero you actually wanted this
[06:03:03] ages to go to as an over-the-shadow.
[06:03:06] It's not the Batrider, so I think anyone, anyone grabbing it is fine.
[06:03:11] SF usually would be the one, but it's also pretty early, right?
[06:03:17] This isn't, let's take buildings with this ages.
[06:03:20] This is, you know, we find some fights here and there that we like,
[06:03:23] and Tiny's the main guy who's going to be doing things.
[06:03:26] SF having involved is this one, right by his tower.
[06:03:29] Yeah, really nice setup there for the disruptor at a really good ward.
[06:03:38] Disruptor going for his own blink as well, so now split pushing is going to be very scary.
[06:03:43] Because either support could find you first and you just can't get out.
[06:03:46] You're either shackled for ages while everyone else shows up, or you're glimpsed back as everyone is teleporting in.
[06:03:51] Yeah.
[06:03:52] Yeah.
[06:03:53] There's no observer.
[06:03:55] The observer has faded this time, so they didn't see this.
[06:04:00] Heading up to the clink, he showed himself.
[06:04:02] I didn't know exactly where he was going to be.
[06:04:03] You know, though he's going to the top jungle, maybe Batrider can tank it for him.
[06:04:07] Oh, he's an award.
[06:04:08] They should get this.
[06:04:09] Yeah, they know.
[06:04:10] The lulb jumps in with the hex into the shackle, shadow fiend, couple auto attacks to assist.
[06:04:17] Don't claim themselves another.
[06:04:18] They actually find the bat rider as well on the back side of this f y will die
[06:04:25] Actually he sees this observer with the century maybe the night vision just barely out of range or something
[06:04:30] I mean, yeah, I don't I mean the the clink. I think died on the other side of the tree there
[06:04:35] I don't think he actually was able to walk it. I think he walked through there. That's how they knew where to go
[06:04:40] Hey, you right
[06:04:43] Well, maybe he just didn't expect anyone either you see it and you're like, oh, I'll get that in a second
[06:04:47] I'll let Batrider do it, you know, whatever.
[06:04:48] I've got farming efficiency, you know?
[06:04:51] I can't stop for this kind of stuff,
[06:04:53] but I can't get out of there fast enough.
[06:04:56] I see them do a little bit of chip damage to the tower,
[06:04:58] but they will probably be backing
[06:05:00] for the Tormenter in a moment as,
[06:05:02] you need to be careful, Batrider is returning,
[06:05:04] there's the fortification, there's the retreat.
[06:05:07] Okay, so you do not want to get lassoed under the tier two.
[06:05:11] And extreme, can I just concede the Tormenter as well?
[06:05:14] I don't think they really have the ability
[06:05:16] fight this. There's a lot of damage. It was for a moment and it disappeared. I don't know. It was very weird.
[06:05:31] Well either way, he's got enough even without it so. Tormentor over to the Shadow Shaman. Not as
[06:05:38] good as it used to be but still pretty useful especially. Socks are really showed with the
[06:05:43] Healing lotuses. This is extremely annoying. You are a foul play hater and the shard just makes it worse
[06:05:51] Yeah, it's one of my least favorite
[06:05:54] kind of things in the game
[06:05:59] But
[06:06:00] it's one of those it's the thing is is the fast the
[06:06:04] innate is like
[06:06:05] It's kind of overpowered when you're winning and it's kind of useless when you're losing right which
[06:06:11] from a design perspective I guess is fine but as a player I freaking hate it
[06:06:17] sounds like you're losing to a lot of shit
[06:06:20] I hate this hero so much
[06:06:23] sounds like a you problem
[06:06:26] it is there it isn't the problem I'll admit it man I know
[06:06:31] this is my weakness I uh mine's worth dude I am a hook magnet so I know my problem but I cannot
[06:06:38] I cannot for the life of me dodge a pudge, uh, that's all right. I'm the pudge player, so we're fine
[06:06:44] That's how we ended up casting together
[06:06:46] Could not avoid
[06:06:48] So I didn't want to play against your shadow shaman. You don't want to play with my pledge. So here we are
[06:06:54] When we come to
[06:06:57] The like I'm trying to look at like what they can get done in this game on extreme cuz
[06:07:03] I don't know how many times you keep seeing down the side. They also find the slard are he was just
[06:07:08] What a poking, just like maybe we can find an opening here?
[06:07:12] No, absolutely not.
[06:07:13] Now NTS actually holds his BKB, goes in, gets caught instead
[06:07:18] the lasso onto the shadow feed as he pops his BKB,
[06:07:21] the toss on in, avalanche as well.
[06:07:23] And yes, you gotta start doing the damage,
[06:07:26] but can he actually find it?
[06:07:28] It's gonna be close.
[06:07:29] You should be able to run down the shadow feed.
[06:07:30] A very nice kill on slot being prod.
[06:07:33] Misses as they take down Dream,
[06:07:35] and now you're in no man's land.
[06:07:37] D.P. out on the Primal Beast, but the supports are strong, I don't know, on it.
[06:07:50] Trying to go in to finish off the, yeah he's got him now, one more auto-attack.
[06:07:56] Good use of the Spirit, keeping track of him, and that was a little greedy to try
[06:08:01] trying to get that Bat Rider who barely gonna get away.
[06:08:08] Clanks getting to pick up some Deso charges.
[06:08:10] If Reconyx was winning, but you still have to respect
[06:08:14] what XG had, that was a tier two.
[06:08:17] I guess it wasn't like really a dive,
[06:08:19] but Razor was in a pretty comfortable position,
[06:08:22] able to bait them in, was not using the BKB.
[06:08:26] Pushing it a little kind of scared me honestly,
[06:08:29] but he knew his limits.
[06:08:30] kept it for the last moment possible to bait them all in his team responds and
[06:08:34] they're able to get some key kills to really bounce out the gold lead after
[06:08:37] all this it's 18 to 8 but now it's only a 2k gold difference yeah I really
[06:08:42] thought the razor was just going BKB to dodge the glimpse but I will also point
[06:08:48] out that your shadow fiend put himself in a really rough position there like
[06:08:52] getting lassoed into the tier 2 tower when I don't even think he needed to go
[06:08:55] that aggressive like the the fight was happening like pretty far behind him so
[06:09:02] you mentioned you like this build but it's uh squishier than the usual build
[06:09:07] oh they're gonna find the clinks here he just happened to walk under a uh
[06:09:12] watcher with a sentry and they get the kill these kind of pick offs are very easy for Reconyx
[06:09:20] but the team fights are where you have to be a little bit more careful you know it's like kind
[06:09:23] of what we saw. So I think I hope they identify hey this is what we like and now we go push towers
[06:09:29] with a free kill. Don't try to force something when they're all up. XG smoked down here.
[06:09:35] They're actually expecting this type of play and they have an observer down by the twin gate so
[06:09:39] they know they're coming up here. Maybe too scared though without the planks. They're hoping for a
[06:09:46] fast easy pick off they don't get it maybe they're splitting up a little bit
[06:09:53] here I mean you can't really kill the primal beast right now but they get the
[06:09:58] shadow theme again off of a really good last always get a bkb try to pop the
[06:10:02] requiem and teepee on out he survives long enough thanks to the crimson guard of
[06:10:07] fbz but now it's full retreat where the side of her comics and it looks like they
[06:10:12] should make it out I say that in dream now in some trouble caught from the bat
[06:10:16] rider has to drop an avalanche there's the toss on aggressively instead into the
[06:10:20] hands of the primal beast they'll run him down with the trample and now he's
[06:10:23] gonna be stuck inside these wards on NTS the pulverizes there the stomp does
[06:10:27] come through for the shackles to follow it up disruptor he's not that far away
[06:10:32] either avalanche toss another hacks holding them in place but it comes to
[06:10:36] start our crush on to two can they get out on a finally joining the fight here
[06:10:41] on the clanks with his BKB will run down the tiny and now the lull left to extreme no way to help him
[06:11:00] in the end that was a pretty drawn out fight but in the end working out for XG NTS on the razor
[06:11:07] Very scary tanking through that entire fight. He did have a shield room which helped a lot. He's over a lot of damage
[06:11:13] Yeah, he's doing some heavy lifting in this fight. I
[06:11:17] Think that could have gone even better if
[06:11:19] Slaughter had been there a little sooner. He would have prevented the SF
[06:11:23] BKB TP out and he amplified all the damage with the crows of haze
[06:11:27] But he was just a little slow. I think really close to his BKB
[06:11:30] And I think he was trying to push it like let me get the BKB and then we fight
[06:11:33] But you see the SF kind of far up you're like we got to go now
[06:11:36] So he's not quite there at the right time and then
[06:11:42] Disruptor did find him running into the fight
[06:11:44] So he hits him with a thunder strike and then he can't really blink in so bit of a delayed appearance
[06:11:49] It still mostly works out for XG, but could have been even better
[06:11:55] Now at least he does have his BJP so he should be there in these fights right off the bat
[06:12:01] I feel like you're gonna start needing like a Lincoln sphere or a Lotus on someone here for the side of her comics cuz
[06:12:11] Yeah, I mean at some point these lassos are just going to result in your shadow fiend dying
[06:12:19] Honestly you could use one on the side of XG as well this shadow shaman from afar is always gonna be such a pain
[06:12:25] They got a cute out this
[06:12:27] Like they've got one almost out of the razor and Amé's got one queued up as well a
[06:12:32] Razor actually has a Lincoln's being delivered right now. Okay. Yeah. There it is the Lincoln's yet
[06:12:40] What's Amé up to only six charges I guess I guess he wasn't quite hitting the same targets in that fight
[06:12:46] Not even have a little bit more
[06:12:48] Much later deso as well from what we've normally seen out of him, right?
[06:12:51] Like he went for the shard at 15 instead of the deso
[06:12:55] So we've seen Aume have both completed that 15 minutes before but very different game.
[06:13:04] And then the top kind of got out of control towards, he was on pace for a pretty good timing
[06:13:07] and then there was just that series of kills that the Conics had, they were like 8-0 for
[06:13:12] a little bit.
[06:13:13] Oh, power rune, spawn bomb, but actually still going to get it with his haste.
[06:13:19] Amplify damage haste razor, that is scary, though haste is about to expire.
[06:13:23] Thanks. He's like mine actually sorry. I know you were bottling to have that but I
[06:13:30] Think it's it's okay. I think NTS doing a little more in these fights
[06:13:34] But perhaps that's because Ami was not in these fights quite yet
[06:13:38] Maybe now that he's here with the same fight damage dream is very dead
[06:13:42] He just got caught TPing out in front of a slaughter and that will be a dead tiny
[06:13:47] They're looking on the other side for other heroes could stretchers already TP'd so
[06:13:51] Very good scouting there from extreme. I think you b-line it to Roche. It's up
[06:14:00] I think that amplify damage is gone at this point. Yeah, just about to expire
[06:14:08] And this one's the banner it was a pretty fast early Roche, so get the banner for yourself here
[06:14:15] Yeah, I'm just gonna run straight in and start up
[06:14:17] any uh lingons cancels so we can get the wow literally no one can do it so he's
[06:14:24] got to do with corrosive haste I didn't really think about that none of these
[06:14:29] guys can break it for him I mean you could get a really good kind of surprise
[06:14:34] requiem maybe but it's taken too long they will grab themselves the ages and
[06:14:44] and with this, this will be Aame very safe in these fights.
[06:14:49] Connix might be able to find an OK fight here.
[06:14:50] FY is still catching up.
[06:14:56] All right, he's with them and in your dream is not there yet.
[06:14:58] So probably reset.
[06:15:00] They're going to fight for the tournament.
[06:15:03] There's a really sneaky ward sentry
[06:15:04] placed in the lane as they smoke here looking for something.
[06:15:07] They'll see Aame.
[06:15:09] He's not really the hero that you can kill though.
[06:15:12] You need the other heroes as the toss comes in close on to two tiny reveals himself.
[06:15:17] There's gonna be the pole rise up the turnaround with the BKBs.
[06:15:19] There's gonna be the lasso as well and now extreme time to run them down looking for dream on the tiny.
[06:15:26] Static storm does come through.
[06:15:28] He gets the toss away.
[06:15:29] The clink just rips right through the disruptors.
[06:15:32] He's gonna lose his ages, but that is gonna be a dead shadow feed as a result.
[06:15:36] No requiem for you, dream.
[06:15:39] He'll at least be able to take down one on the lull.
[06:15:42] He grabs the elder Titan at the tail end of this fight,
[06:15:44] but I think you're pretty happy about these series of events on Extreme Game.
[06:15:51] Yeah, 4,000 gold just about gained there.
[06:15:54] Even more as they finish at the tier two,
[06:15:56] and I imagine fallback for that Tormentor.
[06:15:59] This was just a really nice find from XG.
[06:16:02] Reconyx was making their way up there,
[06:16:05] but I don't think he's going to be able to take down one.
[06:16:08] up there but I think they smoked a little too early so they were trying to
[06:16:11] retreat as the smoke was fading but didn't get out fast enough so then XG
[06:16:15] can see them they can't see XG so you get this double crush from XXS and these
[06:16:21] are two key heroes right they're supposed to tiny is supposed to find someone
[06:16:24] and toss them back FBZ is supposed to find someone and pulverize them but
[06:16:29] they're the ones getting caught and because BKBs are out you can't really
[06:16:33] save them with static store or more like heck shackles. Yeah, the actual position in which
[06:16:41] the shadow fiend had at the start of the fight was also pretty cursed. Like there was no way for
[06:16:47] him to actually join the fight. The his team had already crossed the ramp like like through the
[06:16:52] river. And the shadow fiend was stuck in the tree line on the left. So he had to just pop the
[06:16:56] shadow blade and walk all the way around the team fight before like while he watched his
[06:17:01] Primal beast guy right like there's
[06:17:04] It's little things like that that extreme realize they're like oh we're we have the better positioning for this fight
[06:17:09] Like let's just send it and it just pays dividends
[06:17:14] So strong now on the clink sitting at the top net worth about to have his data list completed
[06:17:22] When they have their bkb's running man, who do you do damage to?
[06:17:26] I'm not too sure. I am not too sure. That's why you have to find them, right? You have to avalanche, toss,
[06:17:36] shackle. Like you need the pickoffs. And the pickoffs are really fast once you actually find the target
[06:17:41] because the burst damage is really there. But these full-on 5 on 5 fights now, XG has the items.
[06:17:47] Nothing to say. Really aggressive position here scouting things out. Big Requiem! They take
[06:17:52] They come down, Klicks is gone.
[06:17:55] Nice earth splitter there to interrupt the pull rise.
[06:17:57] The last one takes out the shadow feed,
[06:17:59] but here comes NTS on the backside of this fight.
[06:18:02] Has the BKB running static storm.
[06:18:04] Not gonna do much of anything.
[06:18:06] The blade mail doing his absolute best.
[06:18:08] They managed to get a second kill there with the avatars.
[06:18:10] Now looking for XXS, the tree toss can't finish the jump.
[06:18:14] He will TP out of the tiny.
[06:18:15] It's a four for two.
[06:18:17] A quote unquote improvement, I guess, you know?
[06:18:22] For robotics, but it doesn't feel good still
[06:18:26] No, no it doesn't and this goes back to what we were just saying right if you surprised the clink which they did
[06:18:32] You've got the burst to kill him
[06:18:33] but because you're focusing the clink everyone else has time to react and
[06:18:37] You've got this razor problem, right? He's too tanky to deal with so let's try to ignore him
[06:18:41] But now we're ignoring a razor and he's stealing all our damage and he's doing a bunch of
[06:18:46] Damage in the fight as a result. So yeah, we see clink's instantly killed off
[06:18:51] you know, you know, it's not
[06:18:55] like you're going to pop off,
[06:18:55] but then okay, everyone else
[06:18:57] pop your BKB's. Here's the
[06:18:59] Crimson guards. You know, you
[06:19:01] live a little, but, uh, do
[06:19:03] you do any more damage now
[06:19:05] that your burst spells are
[06:19:07] down? Not really. Yeah, it
[06:19:09] was a really nice wrap around
[06:19:11] from NTS is kind of set up
[06:19:13] from having an Invis room,
[06:19:14] right? Like he had the
[06:19:15] Invis room. He scouted. He
[06:19:16] saw kind of where they were
[06:19:17] didn't end up saving the
[06:19:18] clanks, right? He just gets
[06:19:20] as his refresher done so this is kind of like the dream razor right like you have two defensive
[06:19:28] items the bkb and the linkins even a pipe you know not typically what you see on core
[06:19:33] razor but out of the mid lane it's not that abnormal now you have refresher to rely on
[06:19:37] your spell kit yeah it's like the new thing for razors to be building more auras i think
[06:19:42] cool. You've always done plenty of damage thanks to static link. Uh-oh! That's a very
[06:19:53] nice BKB usage there from Fy to secure the Shadow Fiend on the last sale. They'll get
[06:19:57] Delol as well. Nice reaction time for the Shadow Shaman trying to help, but you can only control
[06:20:08] so many heroes when they're all jumping your shadow fiend so can't save him I
[06:20:14] don't think you should be standing up here either I feel like you're gonna get
[06:20:16] jumped
[06:20:21] a lot more heroes would jump but
[06:20:26] Tommy's got his eyes set on the mid tower but XXS nothing to say they want
[06:20:32] the tier 3 they got bigger plans they want to end this game 18,000 gold
[06:20:36] advantage now after well there's a little bit of a slow start from them but
[06:20:40] they've managed to pull things back very well.
[06:20:42] Those banner hits the deck and now I creep wave. You cannot deal with it so.
[06:20:57] And BKB's the blitz. KB just to make sure they get out safely. I don't blame them
[06:21:02] right like you got what you want you got a full line of racks there's no reason
[06:21:05] to stick around. Even without the shadow fiend, you know, they just don't want to risk giving
[06:21:12] up anything. Yeah, and there's no need to because you're
[06:21:16] winning pretty heavily now, right? It was a slow start. It honestly looked like Reconyx
[06:21:21] might be able to just run this all the way to the end with a lot of momentum, but XG
[06:21:27] found a couple good fights and now they have all the answers. So why take any form of risk?
[06:21:33] We're not in a rush at this point.
[06:21:36] Use your BKBs, we can wait for the cooldowns.
[06:21:39] We will just all regroup, find our next fight.
[06:21:43] As long as they don't split up too much, because I still think that Tower of Conics has a shot.
[06:21:48] You know, XG loses a little focus, now go here, you go there.
[06:21:52] Tiny toss, shackle, kill, you know, another guy, shackle, toss, kill.
[06:21:57] And Shadowfiend has this lasting presence facet, right?
[06:22:00] So if you lose too many kills, you give them a bunch of negative armor, and it can be insanely powerful as it builds up.
[06:22:07] So as long as you're careful to avoid that, I feel Reconyx does not have another play.
[06:22:19] Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's something that the Tiny can do, but the side of-
[06:22:25] Fountain toss into like requiem to fear you back into. Yeah, that's another play. That is true. It's it I was gonna say like tiny
[06:22:35] Very strong hero in the midgame
[06:22:38] But extreme tanked up quite a bit like a lot of these heroes are not really burstable clinks
[06:22:43] One of the reasons this hero has become so popular is the fact that he's not squishy
[06:22:48] This guy has like 3,300 health
[06:22:51] your elder Titan not a very squishy support batrider the highest strength
[06:22:56] gain ranged hero in all of Dota like these are not easy kills there's no one
[06:23:01] that tiny can just like pick off very easily
[06:23:11] disruptor aggonyms could be another way but he's only got a thousand gold saved
[06:23:16] up yeah so I very very poor this game yeah if XG slips up once I mean you get
[06:23:22] a lot of money in for winning fights at this point in the game so they throw
[06:23:25] once on high ground that should get him enough money to make it to the to the
[06:23:29] eggs to take at least one fight with it before the end of the game but it doesn't
[06:23:33] have to like buy back and stuff yeah exactly if XG makes any like just too
[06:23:38] good plays I don't think you'll even reach the the eggs I get this point you
[06:23:42] need what the next roche and then you're probably closing out the game with it
[06:23:45] Yeah
[06:23:49] Smoke expires you have the the blank ag's BKB on F. Why is that writer?
[06:23:54] So if you group up there is a very high potential to just instantly die
[06:24:03] Shadowfiend not with this team here
[06:24:05] So I was wondering I was like are they not looking for a toss back requiem, but he actually was not next to his team at the time
[06:24:10] so
[06:24:12] He's trying to finish his Daedalus. They do need a little bit more consistent damage from an item like this
[06:24:20] I still needs like 200 gold. Yeah, he should get it as he's defending the base
[06:24:24] For his team is gonna run out to meet them. It does mean he has no buyback, but I think you have to take the risk
[06:24:30] You don't have enough games that oh my god if you lose your career to the creeps. I was gonna say that's a risky path there
[06:24:35] that's actually doing serious work right now because extreme have a gem and they have somehow have missed us to scout this one out. So, I mean, you don't want to like walk into the river needlessly versus tiny so they're sticking to their half, which means you can't see far enough.
[06:24:51] Yeah, they actually do have an observer, but it's like just outside of seeing the other observer, so
[06:24:58] They'll find it eventually, but maybe not soon enough to prevent in your dream from finding like one game winning toss back
[06:25:05] we'll see
[06:25:07] It's got to be I don't even know actually at this point
[06:25:10] Take out somehow take out NTS or Aume without them doing anything, but it's it's so tough a
[06:25:16] a 3500 health razor who has a Lincoln's BKB pipe refresher, and then Aame who also has
[06:25:24] a Lincoln's BKB 3000 health. It has to be an XG positioning mistake.
[06:25:32] Yeah, it does because I was thinking about it again. When you're playing this like toss
[06:25:39] back for the Requiem, you you have it has to be a toss back. You can't go in for an
[06:25:45] avatars and then like blink on top of it and go for the requiem because the
[06:25:50] bad rider will double lasso you instead right was speaking about right is
[06:25:53] actually got no lasso you will find the disruptor who will pop that ethereal
[06:25:57] blade teeth or not you like the go-septor to be back home so he survived but that
[06:26:02] was time for the ages
[06:26:06] Cheese and Roche banner on the Slardar.
[06:26:11] Who took the Refresher or Ami did? Okay.
[06:26:16] This is very tough to kill Klitz.
[06:26:20] Alright, Shadowfiend did get his level 25 talent, so how does the Shadow Raze apply attack damage now?
[06:26:27] A little bit of extra burst if they can manage to find the Requiem.
[06:26:33] FY's also got a greater healing lotus in his inventory, so another 900 burst heal coming
[06:26:39] in to one of these tanky cores as you try to kill them.
[06:26:45] This is the second banner too, so you can place it further back and just have clinks
[06:26:52] chick away. Scan topside but not gonna find anything. Is that a nullifier coming out on
[06:27:14] Slardar? Man that's an item we haven't seen in a while. The bigger question is why did
[06:27:20] he crushed in the river for the longer moments in case there was an Invis hero
[06:27:26] there and just apply the yes oh yeah yeah okay you know it's like oh look I
[06:27:30] found that is better placement they did this on the last high ground but it
[06:27:34] placed it right on the tower he's gonna come up right he's gonna walk into it
[06:27:38] comment on the first one cuz like okay they're dead it's fine bro they're all
[06:27:42] this banner can reach like twice that distance shout out shaman dead in the
[06:27:47] bottom lane. That's a BKB at NTS. He's a little bit afraid of the Tossback, but they did get
[06:27:54] the full lane of Rax and Shadow Shaman's buyback. It's available, but will it matter here? Your
[06:28:04] play is basically the dream Tossback. See if they can get it. It needs to be a toss into
[06:28:10] Here we go.
[06:28:11] He gets the BKB off immediately and instead he's just going to try and go toe to toe with
[06:28:16] the Shadowfiend.
[06:28:17] He's going to win on the Shadowfiend.
[06:28:19] The question is can you get them out of your base because that is oh no you can't.
[06:28:24] The last cell is going to find two.
[06:28:27] Dream hits the deck.
[06:28:28] NTS forces the Shadowfiend back into the fountain but they got him with a toss back and buyback
[06:28:32] comes through.
[06:28:33] They're now stuck in a little bit of an awkward spot but the sleep from Ex Nova holds them
[06:28:40] All that bait, the blink, the requiem, but Ahme still had the BKB and he will instead just shred the Shadowfiend.
[06:28:51] I had a little fault with the fountain banger, but those are the buybacks.
[06:28:56] And now without your Shadowfiend, I really don't think you have the damage outside of tossing people into the fountain, which he tries, but it doesn't get the right toss target, so...
[06:29:04] We're not gonna happen. Maybe blade mail, maybe blade mail can do it.
[06:29:07] I'm not even joking. Maybe the blade mail can do it.
[06:29:11] All right, now, almost.
[06:29:13] Go to 10 for MPC. He's gonna fly back into the game.
[06:29:15] The throat is falling in fast though,
[06:29:17] and it looks like Extreme's gonna do it.
[06:29:20] They take the series over Reconyx.
[06:29:23] 44 minutes into the game.
[06:29:28] I expected XG to win.
[06:29:30] I didn't expect them to struggle so much at the start.
[06:29:33] I think that's something for Connix can be happy with and I think that's something you're
[06:29:37] Like as you play through these international teams, you know a new experience for a lot of players there
[06:29:43] It is good that they're they're not just getting stomped like every game, right?
[06:29:46] They are showing some good plays, but the inexperience
[06:29:50] Ultimately cost them the game and I hope that's what they're taking away from this this whole event the learning experience and they you know
[06:29:55] Keep improving xg showing why having that experience even as you fall behind you know, right?
[06:30:01] Like these are the right fights to take is how we navigate in the fight
[06:30:04] These are the right targets to go for and you can just clutch out a couple moments here and there to bring the game back
[06:30:10] NTS doing a lot of that clutching this game
[06:30:13] I would say his razor really did a lot for his team to get them through that rough period and he was the
[06:30:19] he was the
[06:30:21] The reason they came back right that over commitment on that tier two in the mid lane
[06:30:25] the game. He just lived so
[06:30:29] long with his BKB and pipe
[06:30:31] that he baited reconnaissance
[06:30:32] into that first bad fight,
[06:30:33] which is what started this
[06:30:34] comeback for extreme. Yeah,
[06:30:35] and that was the first time
[06:30:36] they got the kill on to the
[06:30:38] shadow fiend right like this.
[06:30:40] Shadow fiend was kind of.
[06:30:41] Owning the game at that point.
[06:30:43] He was he had full control over
[06:30:44] what was happening and getting
[06:30:46] lassoed back towards the tier
[06:30:48] two tower, just committing too
[06:30:49] strong, which is funny enough
[06:30:51] in exact play that we saw
[06:30:53] yesterday of the shadow fiend
[06:30:54] that you know, they weren't
[06:30:58] paying too much attention to
[06:31:01] the positioning and, uh, that
[06:31:03] was the start of the end, uh,
[06:31:05] for for a Connix there, right?
[06:31:07] You like you really can't
[06:31:09] afford to give up those types
[06:31:11] of kills and extreme in the
[06:31:12] right position to capitalize
[06:31:14] on it. F Y had some amazing
[06:31:15] lassos and pick offs this game,
[06:31:17] but it really is NTS on the
[06:31:19] razor. Uh, who's kind of the
[06:31:22] star of this game, like every
[06:31:24] To actually like get the most out of this hero get the most damage
[06:31:28] And be the kind of like the chaos that Reconyx did not know what to deal with
[06:31:33] Yeah, it was kind of the way the drafts were gonna go
[06:31:35] I think the consistent damage from extreme is better
[06:31:38] So once you slip up on the place once or twice and you let those bkbs come in then it's gonna be a really tough game
[06:31:44] But still a pretty fun one I would say and hopefully our next game is also exciting
[06:31:49] We're gonna have spirit versus tundra should be a really cool series
[06:31:53] It'll be just a quick break till then guys, so go get your snacks and then come back because you're not gonna want to miss anything in this
[06:31:59] nice game, I'm sure
[06:38:23] of him.
[06:38:41] Welcome back, everybody here to the blast slam six. We've got another fun series coming up next. It's going to be
[06:38:49] and I think in most universes we would be like dang, there's going to be a super sick game, but something's up with spirit, man.
[06:38:58] They're struggling in this group stage, you know, granted, not up for elimination, but they have had a rough time adapting to the stand-in of Murrell.
[06:39:08] And I'm not sure, you can't say like, oh, it's just the stand-in, right?
[06:39:14] We've seen teams with standings have incredible performances.
[06:39:18] So I think there's just something with morel actually.
[06:39:21] Yeah, I was gonna say so to me it sounds like it just feels like
[06:39:24] something's off in the maybe with the meta with the patch like
[06:39:27] something not quite clicking that being said, one of the best
[06:39:32] teams of all time. I feel like this can easily be like a
[06:39:36] recovery period for this team as we get into like the rest of
[06:39:40] the playoffs.
[06:39:42] I mean, that's the thing with spirit, right?
[06:39:43] They've they are
[06:39:45] The bar is so high because they have been the best team and in an untouchable way like
[06:39:53] You just cannot defeat spirit
[06:39:56] So everyone always holds them to that standard and anything below that is like man, they're underperforming and it's true
[06:40:01] You know like even to that standard they would be but it's happened a lot like through the history of this team
[06:40:06] They are either in that untouchable unbeatable team
[06:40:09] Or kind of shaky and it's it's really hard to say when they are going to be that team in a given tournament
[06:40:15] Or just in the given series like sometimes from one series to the next the play really changes
[06:40:21] And it seems like right now they're in that shaky period
[06:40:23] But you can't disrespect them because they will just randomly turn it on for a game
[06:40:29] And that could be that could put a challenge to tundra
[06:40:32] Their opponents who had been far more consistent. I would say they don't always look
[06:40:37] untouchable in the same way that Spirit does at their peak, but everyone knows
[06:40:43] is a very powerful team, very consistent. This guy right there, 33, often
[06:40:47] lauded as one of the geniuses of Dota, and I would say actually Ari joining. He's
[06:40:54] also been a very creative player that brings a lot of ideas. Like we saw his
[06:40:59] his biggest debut I think was on OG, and he would often talk about like new ideas.
[06:41:05] Seb talked about how like he and Ari would like go through different stuff together
[06:41:09] So I think I could be working out for tundra where like you got two people who like to talk a bunch about the game figuring things out
[06:41:16] You know I
[06:41:18] Appreciate you know the same like I was you know base debut was tundra, but let's be real
[06:41:24] TSM is where are you really?
[06:41:26] Okay, you're right you're right really started to hit the like people were like this guy's actually kind of owning you know like
[06:41:33] like, uh, when TSM, you know,
[06:41:38] being me, the NA team for just
[06:41:39] a little bit, right? This
[06:41:40] there, they had like their
[06:41:41] their moments, you know, where
[06:41:42] they looked really strong. They
[06:41:43] did. They did. Um. And then
[06:41:47] gets pushed by O. G. Right. But
[06:41:49] I do think in general Ari was
[06:41:53] one of the most surprising
[06:41:55] players. I think to, uh, like
[06:41:57] newer players in the scene,
[06:41:58] like he's only been playing for
[06:42:00] in the process. What like five
[06:42:01] Put that in comparison to people who've been playing for Dota for 20 years, right?
[06:42:05] Like this guy was playing other MOBAs.
[06:42:07] Like he he was like, oh, okay.
[06:42:09] I'll just give Dota a try and then like climbs the leaderboard as a support
[06:42:12] and ends up in the top like 50 and people are like, who is this guy?
[06:42:15] You know? Yeah.
[06:42:17] He part of that is his creative, creative ideas like back at his Nick's assassin.
[06:42:23] Right. When I was like killing creeps, doing some wild creep dragging.
[06:42:27] Yeah, so you're in a pudge when there was like the the manor region on the side
[06:42:32] An arm around the other right the the well and he would just like pick pudge just go down there start hooking creeps
[06:42:38] Mm-hmm
[06:42:39] Yeah, so he he he brings those creative ideas
[06:42:43] The weaknesses may be sometimes the laning like the mechanics are not as strong, but I think that's been improving
[06:42:51] someone whose mechanics are very good are is BGM and
[06:42:54] and they're gonna grab the Invoker very likely to be his.
[06:42:59] This is a team that will, they'll just do this.
[06:43:02] Like most other teams will not grab their mid so early,
[06:43:04] will not grab Invoker so early,
[06:43:07] but BZM is such a powerhouse on this hero
[06:43:10] that they'll grab it really any chance they want.
[06:43:13] Sometimes they'll pretend to take it first,
[06:43:15] sometimes they'll pretend to not care
[06:43:16] and then grab it later.
[06:43:18] They're just always happy to have Invoker.
[06:43:20] There's a lot of, like there's a lot of Invoker players
[06:43:24] It's really hard to be like this person is the best invoker player because there are a lot of different ways you can play this hero
[06:43:29] But I will say BGM to me is the most
[06:43:33] Consistently good invoker player like some people have like baller games where they just pop off and then they'll have a
[06:43:39] Kind of a burger game where they just get rotated on in mid and you never really feel the invoker's impact
[06:43:44] I think BGM even in the bad games still manages to look good. So I love seeing this guy's invoker
[06:43:51] I'm really excited to see how he
[06:43:53] uh, plays at this game. They obviously responded with the puck immediately. Um, oh yeah. But
[06:43:59] you gotta now, you gotta enable it, right? If you go for the first pick in Voker, you've
[06:44:02] got to find a way of enabling the invoker in the sidelines, giving him some strike set
[06:44:07] up targets, having heroes that he could play around heroes that can benefit from a Lackardy
[06:44:11] or the Aghanim Scepter, right? Like they're, we'll see what Tundra do, but we get the Lar
[06:44:16] goba so excited for that you got some cool combos here you can break coil if he
[06:44:22] uh coil catchy lick you can remove cold snap which is really annoying but there's
[06:44:27] also a lot of invoker spells of that they need to hit right and he's like
[06:44:32] chucking them all out and then you suddenly just get pulled out of the way
[06:44:35] by catchy lick it can throw off your meteor your sun strikes your EMPs ice
[06:44:40] ice walls, all that stuff.
[06:44:43] So it could be very cool.
[06:44:45] Tiny Marana, you just mentioned,
[06:44:47] you want some Sunstrike setup.
[06:44:49] Avalanche toss, great setup.
[06:44:51] Arrow connecting, random arrow.
[06:44:53] Like even if you don't have setup,
[06:44:54] just a random arrow, boom, Sunstrike that.
[06:44:56] And then you actually work together with these heroes
[06:44:59] and you are good to go.
[06:45:01] I'd say like one more consistent stun would be great.
[06:45:05] Just cause Avalanche toss until you have the blink
[06:45:07] is a little slow.
[06:45:08] and the arrow of course needs setup so like just any hero I don't care which uh it's only like to
[06:45:14] be the carry or the off lane that they're gonna need just like a casual stun and then you can bring
[06:45:19] everything together. I really like the it's a it's a way different style of draft uh that we see
[06:45:31] on tundra compared to others like very often is it's not a just obvious mid pick into the double
[06:45:35] support. But in terms of allowing the invoker to have a good game, I think both these supports do
[06:45:42] that. And now you get to have the 18th pick for either that carry or off lane. For spirit, I'm
[06:45:49] curious what they want to pair up for themselves. You do have a couple, I was like, there's gonna
[06:45:56] say there's still a couple of really strong supports in the pool. They'll go for the hoodwink,
[06:45:59] some good burst damage, something that's comfort for them as well.
[06:46:05] I mean, you were talking earlier
[06:46:07] about, you know, when we were
[06:46:08] talking about the stand-in
[06:46:09] star with spirit, like, you
[06:46:11] can't just be, you can't chalk
[06:46:12] it up to just being like, oh,
[06:46:13] well, they're playing with the
[06:46:14] stand-in. Like, they literally
[06:46:15] just came in second place at a
[06:46:16] tournament right before this
[06:46:17] with Miro. And they did the
[06:46:19] exact same thing, like, a few
[06:46:21] months ago with Miro, where
[06:46:23] they got second place in a
[06:46:24] tournament. So they're
[06:46:26] familiar with playing together.
[06:46:28] So I'm just wondering if you
[06:46:29] want to talk about the
[06:46:30] stand-in star with spirit,
[06:46:31] like, you can't just be, you
[06:46:32] can't chalk it up to just being
[06:46:33] like, oh, well, they're playing
[06:46:34] So I'm just wondering, you know
[06:46:38] What is what are they gonna need to kind of kick things back into high gear?
[06:46:43] It's definitely not just him, but he's a good play
[06:46:48] Playing with the standard is always different from playing with your main team. So like
[06:46:52] We have to acknowledge that but they have played with them frequently as they're standing
[06:46:58] So there is some familiarity that with it and it seems I don't know
[06:47:03] But they just seem disconnected a little bit compared to the usual, like the peak spirit
[06:47:09] is like, wow everyone on the same page, the movements are so good, so fluid, and I don't
[06:47:14] know if it's like the new patch if they took a bit of a break, if something happened, you
[06:47:19] know, but they just don't seem to be quite on the same page, the same, uh, uh, laning
[06:47:26] prowess that they used to have.
[06:47:29] Not that they were like the greatest laning team, but they were at least more consistent
[06:47:32] and then they currently have been.
[06:47:35] So yeah, I don't know, we aren't on the team, right?
[06:47:38] So we don't have any insider info,
[06:47:40] but something has been going on.
[06:47:43] I really think like this is the game
[06:47:46] where they can kind of prove themselves, right?
[06:47:48] You're going up against the tournament favorites, Tundra.
[06:47:52] And so far, the draft's pretty well-rounded.
[06:47:56] I'm curious what they want to pair with the Slardar,
[06:47:59] but they'll go ahead and get the brew master here
[06:48:01] the off lane, which it's a pretty good brew game. The downside is playing into the Largo,
[06:48:06] right? We talked about this in a series yesterday, right? The brew master into Largo basically
[06:48:12] makes you can't go your second ability. You just go like 404, play around the clap and your stances
[06:48:17] instead. And then you'll get like a value point in your, in your, you know, cast so you can actually
[06:48:24] to get the brood up, you know, but can't really use it for damage against a Largo.
[06:48:30] You can't really build the urn into the Largo.
[06:48:35] I'll also say it's not the offlane setup I was kind of hoping to see for the the arrow
[06:48:42] and the avalanche toss, but you'll get by that early laning stage, right?
[06:48:45] You'll just creep drag to the brewmaster and because you're skipping cinder brew that
[06:48:51] pairing with the tiny isn't that great anyways and so now you'll just drag it
[06:48:55] over he'll tank things with his evasion because he's leveling that instead the
[06:48:59] carry can still pick up maybe some kind of stun I'm trying to it's not usually
[06:49:03] like what he does like Windranger is left maybe
[06:49:08] surprised on the Sven ban like the weaver one makes no sense right but Sven
[06:49:16] would have been a lot of damage with the Slardar and it's pretty good versus
[06:49:20] Brewmaster right because like oh no he split
[06:49:23] Chief anyways
[06:49:25] Are you like that part's pretty good?
[06:49:28] And they have a lot of like synergy where like oh everyone gets bushwhacked together and we get coiled together
[06:49:33] That's a lot of boosting the the Sven's also actually pretty nice. So I can I can kind of see it
[06:49:41] Man they cut so hard on Largo's design he's such a cool-looking hero I love Largo
[06:49:46] I mean, I think that's a
[06:49:48] really cool thing. I think
[06:49:50] that's a really cool thing.
[06:49:52] So. You know the fact that
[06:49:54] he's missing a string on his
[06:49:56] instrument is definitely a
[06:49:58] little bit unfortunate, but I
[06:50:00] would love I feel like this is
[06:50:01] more work than they're going to
[06:50:02] do, but I would love if one of
[06:50:04] his facets is the third
[06:50:06] string and you just get more
[06:50:08] songs. We I think that would be
[06:50:10] so cool, but I don't think
[06:50:12] they're going to have a
[06:50:14] It plays decently well into the Slardar lane, so I actually don't mind it because the parry is
[06:50:21] Pretty annoying for him
[06:50:25] You can remove some of his stuff going back to the Largo catch you lit can remove Falcon rush for example
[06:50:30] It can remove the Kazarite katana. I
[06:50:33] Think you'd rather pair hoodwink up there with the Slardar
[06:50:38] But maybe depending what carry you grab here, maybe you can make that pivot if you want to put him there
[06:50:42] because I think even like even without Largo in the lane I don't think you're
[06:50:47] doing the cinderbrew build because you have a tiny 4 so if you don't need the
[06:50:52] Largo there then you could move him top to kes where you mess with like he can't
[06:50:56] I just won't use Kazarai katana like you can't do that on kes it could go
[06:51:02] Templar assassin I'm trying to make sure that heroes that synergize with the
[06:51:07] Slardar like TA is not bad she does not easily get burst by the kes you also have
[06:51:12] the option of like, I mean, it's, it's your tour classic. So I'm afraid that they'll do
[06:51:20] it, but the Phantom assassin is another one. Okay, go Dragonite. Much more straightforward.
[06:51:27] Easy, easy minus armor hero, a little bit tankier. You can also leave him alone. You
[06:51:36] can also leave him alone versus the brewmaster fairly early. So that kez, not kez, sorry,
[06:51:40] The Largo could go mess with the Kez in that lane.
[06:51:44] You also are, we mentioned the Sven, you know,
[06:51:46] you're like, oh, I'll just cleave the broodlings.
[06:51:48] Dragonite's kind of there.
[06:51:49] You know, you put the ult in,
[06:51:50] you get some splash damage, you can deal with that.
[06:51:53] I also think you, as Kez, you hate chain stones, right?
[06:51:59] Like you want to be getting all these abilities off.
[06:52:01] That's where all your damage comes from,
[06:52:02] when there is that synergy between everything.
[06:52:05] And if you're having to deal with Dragon Tail,
[06:52:07] Crush, Bash, like all these different things,
[06:52:10] You can't do the combo and then your your damage ends up really really chopped down
[06:52:17] All right, I like the drafts from both teams. I'm always excited to see a kez. I think the hero when we saw it once
[06:52:25] Yesterday had probably the roughest possible lane in existence and went like, you know, that was the the gamer legion gamer
[06:52:32] They were like 27 and 1 or 28 one or something right like that wasn't a great kez showing
[06:52:37] It was a great Largo show. It was a really good Offlane Largo showcase though. So if anyone is out there trying to get some notes on Offlane Largo, that was one of them.
[06:52:47] But we're not going to see as much of like a shutdown on this Kez, right, as that game. I think it plays fairly decent into the Slardar.
[06:52:56] That being said, this is Collapse Slardar. He's one of the best on this hero and I think this guy has earned a lot of respect when he's on it.
[06:53:04] on it and I understand why they pick it so early in the draft as a result so
[06:53:09] We'll see what they can get done as we get ready to jump into this best of one. It is spirit
[06:53:16] versus tundra ladies and gentlemen a
[06:53:20] Must win game for spirit here man. They need to avoid those bottom four
[06:53:26] You're not getting eliminated or anything, but like you don't really want to be in the bottom four if you can avoid it
[06:53:32] Yeah, you well the most important thing is for them to figure out what they've got going on they have some
[06:53:41] As we mentioned something seems to be disconnecting in the team disconnecting in the game right now
[06:53:45] You know, yeah, I sort all that out because whether you are in the middle of the pack bottom of the pack top of the pack
[06:53:51] Well, okay, if you're in the top
[06:53:52] I mean you figured it out
[06:53:53] But if you're in the middle versus the bottom it doesn't really matter like spirit is not the caliber of team is like okay
[06:53:59] We got fourth nice guys to a degree. Yes, but like you're here to win
[06:54:03] You know you've got TI winning players
[06:54:05] So if you aren't solving your issues to win the tournament, they don't really care about bottom first middle
[06:54:12] placements
[06:54:14] Okay, I know we memed a lot about this yesterday, but
[06:54:19] Leaps and bounds is back
[06:54:22] Okay, listen listen
[06:54:24] I'm more open to this one this time because
[06:54:30] Kez does not have setup for the arrow the other side tiny toss avalanche toss is good for
[06:54:39] Sunstrike
[06:54:40] But that is a weird lane right like you're creep dragging most likely with the brewmaster tiny and then you're trying to Sunstrike a
[06:54:48] Largo dragonite right it's like it's so tough
[06:54:50] But now you have leaps and bounds Marana to set up the Kez damage and try to Sunstrike a hoodwink
[06:54:57] Like that's way easier or Slaardar is also fairly tanky
[06:55:01] But I think there'll be more fighting there and Marana can set that up with her constant harasses a little white mon like
[06:55:08] Arguably the best position five in the game right now such a strong laner like he's gonna chip them down leaps and bounds in Sunstrike boom
[06:55:17] I'm open. I here's the thing like I'm there
[06:55:19] I never tried to just dismiss any, uh, like ideas. I think it's, you know, it's a big
[06:55:25] part of this game. Like no one really knows everything. We've seen this facet picked up
[06:55:31] a handful of times. And I don't, I think I have seen, I'm pretty sure I've seen zero
[06:55:39] snargulous where this has led to a kill. Like that's, that's the part where I'm like, I
[06:55:44] just I have not seen it utilized in a way that has been you know
[06:55:52] Like look look I don't feel like it's hot you have the other facet that's pretty good
[06:55:57] You know like it's actually a pretty good facet, so I'm a little bit unsure
[06:56:01] Root versus puck good
[06:56:04] Hood wing don't let her get away slardar. What's the guardians from the way on to a slardar suicide?
[06:56:11] You're not doing it for fun, you're doing it when the team is ready to fight the Slarkar.
[06:56:17] I get it, I get it.
[06:56:20] Here's the thing, I want to see it utilized in this game, right?
[06:56:24] I think obviously when you're pairing it with BZM and Voker, like you're looking for these
[06:56:28] soundtrack setups on the sideline, you can do that.
[06:56:31] And so that's what I'm going to be watching, right?
[06:56:34] Like how they can actually make use of it.
[06:56:37] Panto's gonna actually get a little catchy lick here on pure and he's gonna take a decent chunk of damage blood grenade is out
[06:56:43] This could very well be our first blood. It is
[06:56:48] You get a little catchy lick is up in one. He's got boots run him down
[06:56:54] All right, here's gonna live acorn shots available, but I mean still
[06:57:01] The damage is done. Panto's not leaving. Yeah, he's gonna sit here and look for an opening any moment
[06:57:06] We'll have to TP it. I think eventually but
[06:57:10] Now that they see white mon. Yeah, he'll go to the bottom line
[06:57:15] It's a QF for success here, right pure has already burned through pretty much all his regen in the first wave
[06:57:25] True
[06:57:26] Yeah, I mean they're gonna have to send a lot of extra regen out for the lane pure not have never start
[06:57:32] He would want it, but at least not dying
[06:57:34] You know not giving a first blood over to something like a sardar when we were just talking about the fact that cloth collapse is one of the best sardar
[06:57:41] It's like giving this guy first blood is would be a disaster
[06:57:49] On the other hand, we got creep dragon going on bottom like we expected
[06:57:54] It's why Panto got these boots so he could just chase down Ari while doing this and he's actually forcing the creep track all the way in the back
[06:58:00] He just this isn't really annoying I think right it technically still meets the wave
[06:58:06] But the off-laner has to run so much farther now right you want to just go behind your tier one tier two
[06:58:11] And then you go back in front of the tier one now if you want to get here
[06:58:14] You have to go all the way around and pandas actually put so much pressure
[06:58:16] He ended up choosing to miss the first wave catch just the range creep which is pretty pretty smart
[06:58:22] Although Pando actually secures it
[06:58:24] It's getting really wacky this bottom lane dragging
[06:58:30] where I mean how much damage has Ari taken from just holding this creep wave
[06:58:37] you know it's gonna be another one I was like he's bloody blocking him I don't
[06:58:41] know if he's gonna make it this is some mega-brained shit
[06:58:50] I oh my gosh all right that would have been that would have been rough nice try
[06:58:59] there. Okay, so the range creep, this this seems weird. The range creep is the most valuable creep
[06:59:05] that you are taking away from Yatoro. It also determines which way the lane will push. And if
[06:59:11] two waves in a row, you're only sending melee creeps and the enemy has range creeps,
[06:59:15] like you can't really help but have the lane push out. With that said, Yatoro is doing his own creep
[06:59:20] dragging stuff to match. So he has been handling this well, but they were putting that pressure on
[06:59:25] Like if spirit messed it up at all then the lane would have just moved towards 33, which is exactly what they want
[06:59:32] We talked about this earlier. You're not playing around cinder brew for aggression. You're just getting the farm you need
[06:59:39] Nice parry there that would have been some extra damage into purity did not want to take
[06:59:45] Gosh I forget how much the the talent toss like the range is on that thing it is ridiculous
[06:59:52] Yeah, it's quite far. Could be annoying for puck later. Silences are actually very annoying
[07:00:00] for Wargo, but it's a pretty short silence on that town toss. I don't think it's that
[07:00:06] big of a deal this game. Yeah, it's just if you can combo it into the
[07:00:09] stun is where it gets a little scary. Oop, bottom lane. Oh, they go for the toss into
[07:00:20] The Sun Strike doesn't quite connect and now the Frog Stomp combined with the Toro
[07:00:25] Trying to bring down Ari
[07:00:27] Little bit of a tanky hero and Panto catchy look into should be able to get the kill and that will be the first blood
[07:00:34] for the Largo
[07:00:36] These boots have really paid off for him. Yeah, those boots have been huge
[07:00:41] She's running my sense because he wears jangles
[07:00:45] Sorry, what did you say?
[07:00:47] It's what he wears. It's the slang for sandals in that region. So I'm told I never grew up in that region
[07:00:54] I never use the term jandals, but Largo does. Okay
[07:00:59] That's cool. I know I've learned I
[07:01:02] Feel smarter now. Thank you. You know some heroes have custom items. I think Largo should be his boots look like
[07:01:11] That would be awesome
[07:01:13] That's a huge creep wave coming into the mid lane here as BGM trying to forth away, maybe
[07:01:22] get something to denies so the puck can't clean them all up but ends up not quite happening
[07:01:26] there so puck doing perfectly fine.
[07:01:29] Any deny there would have helped slow them up for that 6 minute power rune, collapse and
[07:01:33] blocked on the bridge here trying to get away from Pure but can't do it.
[07:01:38] Nice run down.
[07:01:39] That's the uh you know anything about that bridge right you can't really run straight down
[07:01:46] otherwise the arrow will get you so he dodges the arrow but it gives so much extra time to
[07:01:51] pure to attack him.
[07:01:52] Come on there it is.
[07:01:55] Oh what do you think rock tastes like?
[07:01:57] Palargo.
[07:01:58] Tastes like victory I think.
[07:02:01] Did you salt it?
[07:02:04] You know I'm sure it's fine but add a little salt on it.
[07:02:07] Probably tasty rock.
[07:02:09] There's a Zelda side quest about that pure this time getting a return killed with a Panto
[07:02:19] rotation.
[07:02:20] He is all over the place.
[07:02:22] Those boots man.
[07:02:24] Jandals.
[07:02:25] He's playing the steps today.
[07:02:27] He had those like runner shoes with all the individual toes.
[07:02:32] That's what Pantos got on this time.
[07:02:34] Very nice.
[07:02:35] Very nice. Power rune spawns bottom. Arcane for RE.
[07:02:39] Invoker is not really a, you know, a power rune kind of guy at the six-minute mark.
[07:02:44] He just wants to make sure that the enemy midlaner doesn't get it.
[07:02:54] So we haven't really seen any of these Invoker Sunstrike setups really connect.
[07:02:58] There was the attempt here on Murale Mid with the Tiny, but didn't quite pan out.
[07:03:02] And we saw the the mid-sun strikes before but we're getting close to the seven minute mark
[07:03:07] Which is where teams typically like to fight for those
[07:03:11] wisdom shrines
[07:03:13] I would toss in that arrow could be there could be but I don't think the teams look too prepared for it
[07:03:20] I think by the time you try to make it over to the
[07:03:23] Spirit shrine. It's too late
[07:03:25] There's a tower damaging right now. There's a big wave
[07:03:28] They scan the puck. Avalanche, Arrow, Toss, Talon Toss, everything Toss. He's gone. They get the combo, finally.
[07:03:38] Spear was coming out to try to protect this tower and the rune, but it gets intercepted.
[07:03:45] Wait, what?
[07:03:46] Oh, actually, squishy hero. He was looking for white mod and was like, oh, take the...
[07:03:52] I'll take the kez instead. Thank you
[07:03:55] Crushed a ball it up panto with another kill
[07:03:59] He's just you know, it's just securing the kills we like to say
[07:04:03] Yeah, they overcommitted a bit there, but I will say that catapult just died and it's seven and a half minutes in
[07:04:10] So we got a ton of tower damage half the top tower is dead for spirit half the mid tower is dead
[07:04:17] Bottom lane's been a bunch of creep dragons. That one's fine, but they're getting the pressure in
[07:04:22] And this invoker with forward spirits if you step away from the mid to gank like he'll finish the tower
[07:04:27] I guess why I've got this load to begin with
[07:04:32] It's about
[07:04:34] All right, you Toro trying to hobble away here from the primal split but with pure coming through the Sun strike doesn't even need to connect
[07:04:41] They get the kill nice use of the first brew split
[07:04:44] Mid lane, they're looking for the invoker.
[07:04:55] He's stuck in a rough spot here.
[07:04:57] The frog stomp with the bush whack is crazy strong.
[07:05:00] Okay, Largo, calm down my guy.
[07:05:04] Panto's trying to set a record on the support Largo.
[07:05:08] 4-0 and 1. Almost more kills than last hits at this point.
[07:05:17] Largo's a great hero to have a good start on.
[07:05:19] Yeah.
[07:05:20] The ultimate is very strong if you get it early. You don't skip it like Offlane Largo.
[07:05:25] Man, I'll never understand 33 dude. How is this guy top net worth?
[07:05:30] All he's been doing is down- What do you mean all he's doing is down his farm here? All the action's happening elsewhere.
[07:05:35] Mean I get it. It's like partly set. Okay. Well, now he's dead. All right. I'm glad we brought attention to that
[07:05:43] Now it's a part of it was
[07:05:45] the tiny right enabling the lane initially like you said giving him the one-on-one and
[07:05:51] Some decent lane equilibrium, but
[07:05:55] There's been a lot of attention drawn to the other parts of the map and despite leaning into a dragonite who is one of the
[07:06:01] You know, he's one of the more
[07:06:04] Deny heavy carries I would say because of that creep dragging and because of just 33 playing well
[07:06:12] After dance though and with that a lot of health back going his way down Panto in deep and this is a kill Street
[07:06:17] Gonna be given right over to 33 double kill for the brew big punish coming in from tundra
[07:06:26] And that's now they look for the mid lane leaps and bounds hold up
[07:06:30] He's not going to go for the rune. Seize the two supports coming mid.
[07:06:35] Uh, pure. Dying solo top to Rue on his hoodwink.
[07:06:44] Kez is a squishy hero, and he wanted to get his cornucopia to regen from being low from that fight.
[07:06:51] But hoodwink, fellow squishy hero, but also a high damage hero, just finishes the job.
[07:06:58] Squirrels are in fact the natural enemies of birds
[07:07:03] Round two just do it again honestly dude if they I was like if they dive and kill pure here
[07:07:09] His game is actually in a really rough spot. It will look like it's gonna come out sooner
[07:07:13] But maybe they didn't know he was like quite there
[07:07:18] Well your toros here is now and Moonlight Shadow will come through but
[07:07:23] Ravens veil trying to protect them
[07:07:25] But again corrosive haze just allowing them to keep their eyes on the prize
[07:07:28] They really want pure bushwhack is up, but no mana quite yet
[07:07:32] BGM is gonna turn around here with the tornado and a meteor hammer tries to save him on panto doesn't quite make it
[07:07:38] go on for the parry, but
[07:07:41] Collapse gets the fast pure stuck on the low ground gets the jump up to the high ground now, but here comes pot
[07:07:46] Doesn't jump in I thought for sure that was gonna be the coil, but
[07:07:51] You're a low on resources actually very low on mana
[07:07:55] Alright, ends up being not too bad for Tundra there, dodging out the gank, only really losing
[07:08:06] the tiny and still managing to find the hoodwink in the process.
[07:08:09] They also dealt with the Catapult and actually they still have one top.
[07:08:12] I'm gonna shout him out, Estini has started making videos again and he actually just made
[07:08:18] a video on the idea of Catapult and pressuring with him and I'm seeing it coming to play
[07:08:22] in this one.
[07:08:23] up your knowledge, you should also look at that. The Tundra's making great use of it, also gonna
[07:08:29] curse him, gonna lose Ari here, but like the Catapult took the bottom tower for them in the
[07:08:33] meantime. Morrell lost his mid tower to the two Catapult waves, back to back, or like not back
[07:08:40] to back Catapult waves, but like the five-minute one took half of it, the ten-minute finished the job,
[07:08:44] and then they also got half the top tower with another Catapult.
[07:08:48] pretty huge mural with the shield runes gonna be nice we're seeing a lot more
[07:08:56] meteor hammers man I'm loving that this item is kind of popping back up into the
[07:09:00] meta heroes that have like an innate setup right invoker with tornado makes a
[07:09:06] lot of sense we've seen void spirits grab this off the eighth of remnant as
[07:09:11] as well. Especially now that Aether Redman's getting, you know, it is like an ability that
[07:09:19] people in the mid lane like to put some extra points in. It's a really good farming ability
[07:09:23] now. What other meteor hammer heroes can we get? What are we missing? Who's the next
[07:09:38] some other hammer would do it
[07:09:46] Meteor hammer is just like in a weird spot
[07:09:49] I feel because it builds out of Kaia, so you have to be a Kaia hero
[07:09:53] But if you're a Kaia hero you almost always want like more damage oriented type items more spellcasting things or health
[07:10:01] Yeah, I feel like it's not a unique
[07:10:03] Oh meteor hammer putting to use in the mid lane a good sharpshooter from Rue dodges out
[07:10:10] Some of the damage otherwise almost died their solo to the invoker
[07:10:14] Topside thunder gonna be looking for a smoke no Sun strike to work with since he just used it
[07:10:20] And I mean if they get a pick it allows them to maybe threaten the wisdom shrine and 33 has his split up so
[07:10:29] Smart time to try and make the rotation there's the moonlight shadow collapse will get found
[07:10:33] and 21 charges, it's not going to be enough to save him for a while.
[07:10:38] It might be.
[07:10:39] The turn out from Murale the puck, they get the silence.
[07:10:41] But there's the brew splitties.
[07:10:43] He's now going to try and finish off collapse.
[07:10:45] Will be able to do so.
[07:10:46] But now he's got to run away from the pursuing spirit.
[07:10:51] 33 is going to be all right.
[07:10:54] No build protector with him.
[07:10:55] Try to one for one trade.
[07:10:57] Overall a win for Tundra.
[07:10:59] Yeah, you forced spirit here.
[07:11:00] I thought they had the holy locket already,
[07:11:02] but he's still working on it.
[07:11:03] that could have saved the Slardar. Saved him a little bit with the island elixir, but not quite enough.
[07:11:09] Space for Pior as well, who really had some struggles up top, so the battle theory is now almost done.
[07:11:16] His farming speed will pick up.
[07:11:25] Alright, Toro to claim the top tier one tower.
[07:11:29] Gonna hit the 15-minute mark.
[07:11:33] And the Atorah is getting pretty strong on this dragon knight.
[07:11:38] Kez isn't like really too far behind and he actually has his battle fury coming out right
[07:11:42] now which is a great farming item for this hero.
[07:11:47] Will help amplify Pure's next item timings.
[07:11:53] It's still pretty squishy though so the same way he's been dying up to this point can definitely
[07:12:01] still happen. Especially Slardar with his blink and initiate. Slardar is struggling but
[07:12:07] fortunately you mostly just need to blink, crush, corrosive haze. That's a lot of your
[07:12:12] value in this early game and then he'll just try to catch back up to the shard to get some
[07:12:17] farming speed to recover. 33 Gothamitis, one of the few heroes we see still go for this
[07:12:23] item. Yeah, you just want some mid to late game items. The aggs first and foremost.
[07:12:30] Probably an armor aura after that, I think, when I hurt this game.
[07:12:36] Maybe AC's second item feels a little too early.
[07:12:39] Maybe something else, but I'd like to see an AC at some point.
[07:12:43] I'm trying to think what I've seen out of the Brewmasters.
[07:12:48] It's like, AC's definitely not a bad pickup.
[07:12:52] It's like, I feel weird picking up that early, but I don't think it's actually bad.
[07:12:57] The problem is like, what's the other arm?
[07:12:59] I guess he could do flags.
[07:13:02] Crimson Guard is weird on Brewmaster.
[07:13:06] Collapse.
[07:13:08] In some trouble, BZM, tornado.
[07:13:11] There's going to be the meatball, arrow, meteor hammer.
[07:13:14] OK, when you have multiple meteors, is that cheating?
[07:13:18] Is that a flag on the play?
[07:13:20] I think it's allowed.
[07:13:22] It's allowed, OK.
[07:13:23] Mid top lane.
[07:13:24] They're going to try and make the same return.
[07:13:25] OK, that is way more damage than I
[07:13:27] thought they would have for the Brewmaster.
[07:13:29] He did not look tanky at all
[07:13:33] Frogs very is a cool ability
[07:13:36] Yeah, it's also a very farm dragonite with yeah armlet and mask of madness
[07:13:41] So you do a whole bunch of damage gonna try to bring that damage down here
[07:13:46] TPs in has the blink alt in two
[07:13:50] These catapults doing damage though
[07:13:53] Yeah, they're just gonna fit the wave
[07:13:55] I think that's a good one.
[07:14:01] Forces you to show.
[07:14:05] Overall very close game between the two teams right like they're both kind of getting what they want collapse on the slaughter is the one struggling the most as we see like, you know, you just got caught bottom doesn't really have like a Midas like the other offlaner does to try and like supplement but.
[07:14:19] He really just needs the blink and the shard and those are
[07:14:23] Those are kind of like the the the two primary things for his bill which right now
[07:14:28] He's gonna get caught at lunch toss arrow Sun strike deafening blast
[07:14:34] He's taking a beating this game
[07:14:41] Real picks up an amplified damn it needs to be a little bit careful his peers looking at chase here pops the Ravens veil
[07:14:47] But do they have the catch looks like it will be there for Panto no way out of that one good jump forward from Ari
[07:14:55] That's confidence
[07:14:58] Oh it's oral we just saw collapse die here a moment ago
[07:15:05] Do not make the same mistakes gonna go through the twin gate he should be fine scan does connect so he knows
[07:15:11] He ends up just blink TPing home instead
[07:15:13] Yeah, that's such a good call they think he went through so they're still looking around they do eventually get that
[07:15:19] Deward yeah, they knew but it it got them some good value already
[07:15:28] Oh Panto be careful TP's up here, but they actually came through leaps and bounds him
[07:15:37] Boy that is a
[07:15:39] long damage that's the invoker Ag's reveal I believe so that's the
[07:15:44] cataclysm which they know is on cooldown now you get some vision of BGM in the
[07:15:48] jungle or comes in waiting ripped into the coil up to the dust is out here comes
[07:15:54] your Toro and the damage on the evoker overwhelming collapse onto the back line
[07:15:58] does get a little bit more to play around but now you gotta try and save your
[07:16:02] dragonite who's just been completely isolated instead he's gone burning down
[07:16:07] 33 as well as pure
[07:16:12] That was an awkward play from collapse they he like jumps in onto the back line ends up realizing you know the invoker is dead and
[07:16:22] Kind of just leaves you Toro to die
[07:16:25] That's a chase kind of far like the coil caught to you. Oh
[07:16:30] Once again
[07:16:32] It's really scary. Morel does a lot of damage around the pocket. He might be able to try and clean this one up orb on forward
[07:16:41] Not going to connect but does have the waning rip from the damage from that
[07:16:46] Oh, he does get the deny. Oh my goodness claps did get Ari, but you have to be careful this fight the pocket is absolutely owning
[07:16:54] He's gonna get the TP out at the last possible second panto of cod from the tornado into another
[07:17:01] Meteor hammer BZM trying to finish off
[07:17:04] Collapse, but your Torah is back the never-ending fight. How's panto alive? What in the world play your song?
[07:17:10] He's just playing his own tune
[07:17:13] It's the tune of tundra's demise my goodness into tormenter potentially now as the fight finally comes to an end
[07:17:20] You should absolutely get the tournament. The shards are so good on the supports of this game.
[07:17:28] This time they overcommit once again starting with pure he's gotta be a little bit more careful keeps getting
[07:17:36] Getting nuked down and he he does live for a while here
[07:17:39] But it forces the team to all respond and this is where panto gets to shine
[07:17:43] He's just playing keeping the team relatively healthy at least healthy enough to continue this very extended fight and
[07:17:50] And now that you've lost your tinies, you just don't have the lockdown to finish this
[07:17:55] puck.
[07:17:56] So Puck's able to just take a lot of aggressive positions, but get unquantished for it.
[07:18:02] He's looking bad, just 16 HP, just like keeps playing his tunes, man.
[07:18:09] He gets the catchy lick off and just starts playing a song.
[07:18:12] Dude, that's hilarious.
[07:18:14] I love that.
[07:18:17] all the debuffs from the invoker and the brew master is just like, all right, bye.
[07:18:21] He's got his holy locket now, too, so he's going to be even stronger.
[07:18:25] That was the fight we saw it revealed.
[07:18:27] Mirelle went from like 10% HP to like 35% instantly.
[07:18:32] Just holy locket into the heals from Largo is pretty nuts.
[07:18:37] So we ended up getting the agonim chart.
[07:18:41] Oh, of course it goes to Panto, of course.
[07:18:46] So right now he's got the the holy locket. You can share the heal amplification with that
[07:18:52] You can share the catchy lick regen
[07:18:55] Can't double dispel. That's a bit of a shame for him though. He's I think he's good enough. He doesn't need that
[07:19:03] All right
[07:19:04] Let's hear now with a slight advantage, but again this game has been very back and forth very close
[07:19:10] pure
[07:19:11] looking to go
[07:19:13] BKB after the mantis style this game. They're gonna find your if he goes into the triangle
[07:19:22] Okay, he's there on
[07:19:24] Grappling crawl across they're not gonna find
[07:19:27] Good deep ward place, but they're gonna continue to search. Oh, they got glimpses. They see you know
[07:19:31] They see him the blinkin the dragon tailed morale here to follow mantis not gonna save you the sharp shooter in from rude to finish the job
[07:19:43] All right, Largo is such a vibe zero. It's actually crazy. You're just like, yeah, get that team. Just boop. Just keep playing songs. Good job, everybody.
[07:19:51] It's so good. It's so chill. And the Bullet Belly Blitz, really good for Roach. You can see all those purple numbers popping up are the damage boost from that song.
[07:20:00] Okay, well, he stops playing. He's trying to save mana in case there is a contested fight.
[07:20:04] They get a stun onto the slaughter claps falling low, but still manages to survive another chase after BZM.
[07:20:10] You might make it out of here, Tornado doing some work, but can the rest of Tundra escape?
[07:20:16] No, the bushwhack comes in from Rue and Morel.
[07:20:19] Nodging out the avalanche for now, he might continue chasing.
[07:20:23] Now we'll see 33 scouting in the roach bin here, trying to do something here on his brewmaster,
[07:20:29] but needs to be careful as collapse is going to come in to try and punish.
[07:20:32] Now, blink to safety.
[07:20:34] And now with Kez alive and rejoining the fight it looks like this Roche attempt might come
[07:20:42] to an end.
[07:20:43] Well I say that.
[07:20:44] I think I'll try again with Largo because the brewmaster splits part of why that fight
[07:20:50] was so hard.
[07:20:51] He has to spend a lot of it just killing the Largo and now that it's down you can't really
[07:20:57] fight and Spirit realizes that so they just go back into the pit they just need to make
[07:21:01] to get stolen which morale is on the case. Oh nice bush way. Nice bush way.
[07:21:07] Oh the mech though. He might be a little done. Oh okay. Sharp shooter.
[07:21:13] Rue's got him. Murrell got rooted for a moment there the leaps and bounds but if
[07:21:21] he hits him with a plasma here he's dead. He's able to dodge it on a quiet nice
[07:21:26] movement. They still managed to get the Roshan. They get the Aegis into the hands of the Dragon Knight.
[07:21:32] They take the bottom tier one tower. And he's closing in on that chrysalis. Yutaro is going to be
[07:21:39] very dangerous in these fights. This harassment damage is actually so much with Largo boosting it
[07:21:54] as well. Yeah, it's actually kind of sick.
[07:22:01] Bottom lane, collapse. Well, pure. Trying to get aggressive here, but...
[07:22:08] Please, you don't really know how many heroes are going to be behind the Keds, so you just
[07:22:12] kind of back out. Yeah, actually, I think they have a rough idea, because they still have that
[07:22:17] deep ward from earlier, so I think they knew a couple heroes were in this area. It's being pinged,
[07:22:21] so I believe they suspect it on Tundra.
[07:22:28] Kez is working on his BKB.
[07:22:30] A lot of these fights have been quite tough for him
[07:22:31] because he just keeps getting crushed and crowd-controlled up
[07:22:34] and the Manta has not been enough to keep him alive,
[07:22:37] but with the BKB, should be easier to join these fights.
[07:22:41] The Ags is coming quite late though because of this,
[07:22:44] which we see this here really shine when the Ags comes online.
[07:22:48] the
[07:22:55] top lane
[07:22:56] tier two tower
[07:23:03] looks like you Toro
[07:23:06] should clean this one up pretty easily tundra not really interested in contesting against the dragonite knowing that the rest of team
[07:23:12] likely behind him. Alright, TP to the bottom lane though, they want to try and find something
[07:23:23] here and it looks like it's going to be the invoker, it's Merel. Beautifully done on the
[07:23:27] puck, we'll punish BZM. Very nice moves from Merel, making sure the team can play fast,
[07:23:38] goes back first to find that invoker there is a deep word set up in the
[07:23:42] meantime from white mon maybe they'll be able to make their own return play as
[07:23:46] the invoker responds though I think you're still kind of waiting out this
[07:23:50] ages there's still two minutes on it it's still pretty scary time of her
[07:23:54] spirit did get the Vlads on the the brewmaster plus the blink and once the
[07:24:02] refresher first it looks like but he does have the ac cute up after it I mean
[07:24:06] You were right, man. You needed a Vlad's.
[07:24:08] It's just such an odd item to get like that late in the match,
[07:24:12] but any bit of armor is going to do wonders in this game,
[07:24:15] especially as an aura on someone like Brewmaster,
[07:24:18] where it's going to basically be up for the whole fight.
[07:24:20] You're not going to just take the auras out of the game.
[07:24:23] As long as he gets to split off, he's fine.
[07:24:25] The synergy with Kez is pretty nice.
[07:24:28] That's right.
[07:24:28] And he does have his BKB.
[07:24:30] So we'll see if that can give them enough to work with here.
[07:24:32] Pure smoke breaks.
[07:24:33] Oh, I mean, who's going to find who?
[07:24:36] jump in to get the puck, there's gonna be tossed into the cataclysm, he's dead.
[07:24:40] Runeau on the run trying to get bailed out from Panto, but that's not gonna happen.
[07:24:44] The rest of Tundra, look at him, they found the Largo.
[07:24:50] Panto, you might have played your last tune here, my friend.
[07:24:55] You get one more.
[07:24:55] Completely surrounded.
[07:24:58] Not even a final strum.
[07:25:00] Yeah, that was a really nice find.
[07:25:01] That was a little funny from spear
[07:25:05] I guess they had the wrong read on which angle they were coming from because they were positioned on
[07:25:09] The left in the tree line, but no actual wards to see people coming from the left
[07:25:13] I feel like they thought tundra would come from the front or from the right side
[07:25:18] No detection
[07:25:20] Finish this one up. No slots for it. He's loaded up
[07:25:24] Yeah, this yeah, I mean it's not broken. They're just like still here, you know, so they thought the fight was coming from a different place
[07:25:36] You lose your puck right off the bat are you guess wrong he jumped high
[07:25:40] But then was actually close enough to still toss from high ground to low ground. Yeah, and once you lose your puck
[07:25:45] That's so much control so much damage. You can't really do anything. Everyone just has to retreat from there
[07:25:51] Yeah, I mean in all these fights we've been seeing the puck finding you know the invoker
[07:25:57] or you know the the brewmaster at the beginning of the fights and making it very difficult
[07:26:02] for Tundra to actually get anything done.
[07:26:06] So really smart play from Tundra, good wrap around the even up the net worth and that
[07:26:10] was all into an Aegis as it expires now so they're feeling pretty strong.
[07:26:17] as his BKB is going to do wonders in these fights,
[07:26:19] give him a lot more damage potential.
[07:26:22] He's now queuing up the butterfly.
[07:26:26] Actually, how do you feel about this?
[07:26:28] More Kezes are skipping Ags, which used to be like the item.
[07:26:32] Yeah.
[07:26:34] I think it's fine.
[07:26:36] I would probably have preferred Ags after the BKB,
[07:26:39] but you are, oh my gosh, what a toss, Cataclysm.
[07:26:44] Half of Yatoro's health is just gone immediately and now collapsed.
[07:26:48] He's committed in pretty far.
[07:26:50] Quail's gonna catch two on the back side.
[07:26:52] Murell doing a decent chunk of damage as well with the sharpshooter.
[07:26:56] Panto just heals off his team, trying to keep them in flying shape.
[07:27:01] And now they're gonna look maybe for the brewmaster.
[07:27:04] The chain stuns are there and he's gone.
[07:27:06] No 33 for this fight.
[07:27:14] It's been a big kill.
[07:27:15] It's been a warge that they go to with the gym on Morel, so re-establishing the map control.
[07:27:21] They don't have Roche, or the Aegis anymore, but they should be able to get Warge down
[07:27:25] and prepare for the next Roche, and possibly clean up all the Outer Towers this time.
[07:27:30] I should be looking for more here.
[07:27:31] Largo?
[07:27:32] Can he tank through it?
[07:27:34] The biggest question?
[07:27:35] Apparently so!
[07:27:37] Oh my god!
[07:27:41] If you can't stop him from playing, he has a surprising amount of armor from the Grudestacks,
[07:27:46] and then you're healing on top of that.
[07:27:49] Yeah, absolutely.
[07:27:50] I mean, they've got some good defensive tools.
[07:27:54] Collapse is going to find BZM.
[07:27:58] My goodness, that's a lot of damage going to try and TP out.
[07:28:00] Should be able to now, as the disarm is there, so heads up play.
[07:28:04] No BKB on the Slardar.
[07:28:06] All right, let's see here you get the Glimmer Cape off and heroes was enough to kill Largoba
[07:28:17] fool.
[07:28:18] All right.
[07:28:19] I don't know if you've seen but we got some new tech.
[07:28:21] It's the Lar Ogba, which is very cool.
[07:28:26] You know, well done chat show them compare idea that Lar Ogba is the new that's the new
[07:28:34] one. I really appreciate it. Both teams can take a little bit of time here. The aggs is
[07:28:51] just about done on Slardar. You can have that for this upcoming fight. Ooh. That is an MKB.
[07:28:57] MKB almost done. Yeah, that's like, Kaz is like, I'm gonna get this butterfly and I'm
[07:29:02] I'm gonna start doing some serious damage, and Yutaro's like, nah, I'm just gonna get a,
[07:29:09] I have an MKB already done, ready to go.
[07:29:13] Maybe debate from Pior, cause he's actually gonna go for a disperse or?
[07:29:15] No, he has it being delivered.
[07:29:17] Butterfly's on the way.
[07:29:18] Oh, is it?
[07:29:19] Isn't it?
[07:29:20] No, he just has the Eagle Song for now.
[07:29:23] He's just my psych, I'm gonna sell that.
[07:29:26] I don't need this Eagle Song.
[07:29:29] Gyrocopter, right?
[07:29:30] I can break down my items.
[07:29:38] It's a pretty fast roast spawn. I don't think either team knows quite yet.
[07:29:42] I don't think you just run in though. It's pretty scary. You gotta find a kill.
[07:29:55] Overall
[07:29:56] claps having the agonim scepter makes him a lot more difficult of a target to initiate on like
[07:30:01] he's again kind of just
[07:30:03] this the
[07:30:06] Initiation kind of sacrificial off-laner a lot of times when you play something like sardar
[07:30:09] It's like you're hoping to just go and get the crush enabled your team to find the kill and if you die you die
[07:30:13] But now with the agonim scepter and the bkb
[07:30:17] The hero is very tanky combine that with the good old Largo behind you
[07:30:23] Oh bzm
[07:30:26] They are on the hunt. Rue is gonna find them. He goes for the bushwhack. He pops the BKB. Do they have the detection?
[07:30:32] Oh, yeah, they got him.
[07:30:34] In comes the Slardar. Yatoro will claim the kill. 60 seconds now without your invoker.
[07:30:41] Are they actually getting it?
[07:30:43] Try. I'm not sure this is fast enough. Spirit is on the way.
[07:30:47] You don't have the aggs on Kes, so you're missing a decent chunk of damage, right?
[07:30:52] Yeah, they're like the older build of deso aggs could have maybe done it there, but this is a
[07:30:58] This is a different one so
[07:31:07] Wow the spirit feel comfortable doing it
[07:31:11] They want to check the area first with the gem
[07:31:14] Yeah, I think they do it's just okay. Yeah, the thing is dead so quick
[07:31:19] They're gonna try and maybe go in on Ari, but not a not a safe attempt at all
[07:31:31] It's pretty tough to do you're gonna be like blinking blink avalanche toss is one of the best tools to steal it
[07:31:36] But you're gonna be jumping into like frog stomp
[07:31:39] There's gonna be a crush and a bush whack as Roche dies try like prevent any of that kind of stuff. Exactly. It's a pretty tricky one
[07:31:49] I'm going to go back to the
[07:32:04] last one didn't go super well
[07:32:06] for spirit right under ended
[07:32:07] up making a couple of really
[07:32:09] nice plays into it, but you
[07:32:10] have a 9000 gold advantage
[07:32:13] now. You've got the rose
[07:32:14] banner. I feel like this is
[07:32:15] like your best chance. You're
[07:32:16] going to get to potentially
[07:32:18] to get that ward placed when he did. Otherwise, very easily have been a kill. Panto, bottom lane here.
[07:32:24] Just gonna Glimmer Cape, walk away from this Invoker who's searching after him.
[07:32:29] And that wastes a lot of his time. Enough time for Meryrel to find a solo kill on the Marana.
[07:32:36] This is Banner on the Catapult wave. You're definitely losing your tier three here and there's no flyback on Marana.
[07:32:43] Maybe you're not sure about that? It doesn't look like they're too concerned.
[07:32:48] All right, Avalanche toss back, Collapser's gonna pop the VKB, but the damage coming
[07:32:55] through quite heavily.
[07:32:56] Pops that ghost step that they're gonna buy himself.
[07:32:59] A little bit of time to get out, but yeah, Murrell is just styling on these guys.
[07:33:04] Still has the Aegis, very comfortable to continue playing aggressive over the Atorio here, finally.
[07:33:09] Joining the Freight Jumpson, Dragastell gets right on top of Kaz, pure, pops that Raptor
[07:33:13] dance.
[07:33:14] off, but the damage from the Slardar's corrosive hay is combined with this dragonite just far too much as 33 again.
[07:33:22] Desperately trying to find Panto, and it's not gonna work. Ask him for the high fives.
[07:33:28] They will take out the puck at least, getting that Aegis.
[07:33:33] It only needs to be a little bit careful. Coil.
[07:33:36] Let's find the guys. They're gonna snap it, trying to find their way into it.
[07:33:39] Pull back into the bush back. Sharp Shooter comes in as well to jump in from Yotaro, gets the Dragon Tail.
[07:33:43] Dragon Tail, and he's gone, collapsed, looking for more, gets on top of BZM, now 33, has to
[07:33:49] bump the pressure with a silence, perfectly dying from Meryl, doesn't get the split, four
[07:33:53] dead on Tundra.
[07:33:56] As Tiny will respawn, but your hopes of maybe holding your high ground, crumbling before
[07:34:03] your eyes, Panto is keeping everyone healthy, a whole high ground fight happened, and Spirit
[07:34:09] has all of their health. They look like they just came out of their own fountain.
[07:34:14] Largo's like a four. This belongs to us, right? This is our base, isn't it?
[07:34:18] Is my base now.
[07:34:20] Here for extra armor doesn't seem to matter into the Dragonite.
[07:34:25] Are you the greatest tossbacks ever? No, they're going to call it GG from Spirit.
[07:34:30] And there's this is what we're talking about, man.
[07:34:32] Spirit has had a little bit of a rough time throughout
[07:34:36] this group stage, but it is still one of the best teams in the world. And this proves it like a go up against the tournament favors the team in first place right now. They get the win tomorrow, maybe breathing a sigh of relief there.
[07:34:49] And he's like, finally dude, feels good to get this win. I'm sure Murrell incredible game from him on the puck. This is this was an all around team effort, but my gosh, let's get those Largo emotes and chat.
[07:35:03] and chat holy heck Panto played an insane game on him yeah the the heal is just so good on that hero
[07:35:11] with that said i it's not perfect if you have like you need a longer drawn out fight for the
[07:35:19] heal to really ramp up and that's where i thought the idea of something like kez coming out was
[07:35:24] because actually this hero can bring so much damage so quickly but i think he died a couple
[07:35:30] too many times like the timings came out too slow so that we never really felt the damage from the
[07:35:37] kez and without him you got like that one cataclysm burst and if you don't win the fight off of that
[07:35:42] then panto you know you know island elixir spam in the back like where's the damage coming from
[07:35:47] if it's not from pure uh so i i think they could have addressed the largo this is not some copium
[07:35:54] to like don't nerf this hero he's not broken you know but uh i just think spirit properly punished
[07:36:00] the kids and then that freed up the Largo. Yeah, this was a really good performance all around from
[07:36:07] spirit and like I said, it feels good when I'm sure for the team like it kind of showing like
[07:36:13] all right, you know, we we still got it, you know, we're still one of the top teams. It just
[07:36:18] needed to come together and Largo. Yeah, they played super well, man. They played super well.
[07:36:23] Tundra there. There were moments where this game was looking great for them as well. Like they
[07:36:27] They were behind a little bit, but then they would crawl themselves back in.
[07:36:30] They did a really good job at stalling out the first Aegis,
[07:36:32] actually pulling net worth advantage for them during Spirit's first Aegis.
[07:36:38] But as this game went on, the the damage in from the Dragon Knight
[07:36:42] and the slaughter, that minus armor combo, there is no real standing against them in these fights.
[07:36:48] Yeah, I think they the Spirit lineup,
[07:36:52] both teams can find pick offs leading into the bigger team fights,
[07:36:54] but Spirit did a better job of this game.
[07:36:56] So it's what let them close out this game, but there's more to go guys
[07:37:00] The next one we've got is gamer legion verse mouse Largobah fans stick around because I think that girl is gonna show up again
[07:37:06] One more time after a short break. We'll see you there
[07:48:26] that.
[07:48:46] Back for another another game
[07:48:48] of Dota two here. I was I
[07:48:49] completely forgot what I was
[07:48:49] going to say and had to wing
[07:48:51] it. We're not miserably now.
[07:48:53] We've got more action here on
[07:48:54] and I mean both these teams have had really fast games too. I mean some of the fastest games of the tournaments
[07:49:00] This is like very much the wheelhouse of how these teams like to play very aggressive very
[07:49:06] strong kind of steamrolling type lineups and now they get to go head-to-head excited to see how this one's gonna like play out
[07:49:14] Unfortunately for both these teams they haven't been doing that. Well, they have picked up some wins, you know
[07:49:20] but on the lower end of the group stage right now.
[07:49:24] So you've been kind of saying it earlier
[07:49:26] in some of the series as well,
[07:49:27] where no one is being eliminated right now.
[07:49:31] So a lot of these games are really about figuring out
[07:49:33] what you are doing wrong and trying to improve on it now
[07:49:36] while you still have a couple more games to go
[07:49:38] so that you then have a shot when you make it
[07:49:40] to the playoffs where eliminations will happen.
[07:49:43] Yeah, it is very possible for both these teams
[07:49:46] to get out of that bottom four, right?
[07:49:48] right? We see game religion here like they're tied at three and six. So the
[07:49:52] winner of this will bump up a little bit and then they both have one final
[07:49:55] series here this afternoon or evening depending on where you are. And that is
[07:50:00] going to be the kind of make or break. So both these teams need to get basically
[07:50:04] two wins here to get out of that bottom four. Malz will see if they can do it.
[07:50:09] Yeah, both these teams love Chen. So I'm gonna be very surprised if it makes it
[07:50:13] through the draft. But I was like this is the team that I'm probably most
[07:50:17] surprised to be struggling. They have had a little bit of a shaky last like month and a half. I think
[07:50:25] there was that moment where they looked incredibly strong. But something's not clicking for Mao's,
[07:50:32] it feels like, in this event right now. They mentioned feeling some burnout. They played every
[07:50:40] qualifier. They won all of them, so then they had to go to every tournament and then play more
[07:50:43] qualifiers so it's just been a lot back to back for a pretty new team as well if you think about it
[07:50:50] you're having the most conversations about how should we play how do we work together what are
[07:50:55] you like what do i like right so there's so much intense effort at once had some immediate success
[07:51:02] but then you keep going and you keep going it can be rough and i i feel like that could be part of
[07:51:07] where they're at of course you can't say that forever like oh it's just you know i'll i'll bounce
[07:51:11] back after a break at some point you still got to do it which almost puts even more pressure on you
[07:51:17] so I don't know it could be it could be a tough place to be
[07:51:24] in terms of the picks bands to start things off the Chen surprisingly absent and now it's not
[07:51:31] okay there it is I was gonna say one of these teams is gonna have to ban it right you can't give it to
[07:51:36] them and I think it would get first picked instantly by by game religion if
[07:51:43] it's left in the pool so mouse will remove it they did get a first-phase
[07:51:47] ban of the pugna which isn't a hero we see banned all that often but it is
[07:51:51] something mouse has been playing so it does leave some other options in the
[07:51:56] pool here the jacquero the brewmasters still there in terms of game religion
[07:52:05] They've also really liked the warlock as well as the shadow fiend and the opener, but the warlock getting removed
[07:52:14] Feel like for a team that likes Largo so much. I don't know if you need to ban pugnob, but they'll go for the Trent
[07:52:22] This is one of the best
[07:52:24] You can actually play in both roles, but I'd say position five is stronger
[07:52:28] It has been banned in most series actually because teams just don't want to play against into it
[07:52:32] the strong laning stage into the eyes of the forest. Looks like mouse. They've got a
[07:52:39] plan ready and it's Timber saw. The one of the most common responses to
[07:52:43] trance. You just break so many trees naturally. You will accidentally cut down
[07:52:47] the eyes of the forest without even trying. It forces you to place them in
[07:52:51] weirder spots to have them survive, which reduces their vision. It's also still
[07:52:59] just a strong hero in general like even without the tree and protector but I will
[07:53:04] say the recent nerfs were a little heavy-handed on him lost three strength
[07:53:09] to begin the game with and that's that's pretty painful actually because you
[07:53:13] don't pick up that much armor to start and so someone like tree and protector
[07:53:17] actually does have a window to punch you pretty hard with your reduced health
[07:53:21] maybe get a kill or two in the laning stage before you become a tree cutting
[07:53:25] monster. I'm curious what they can pick to try and maybe I address the Timbersaw because
[07:53:36] a lot of times Batrider is one of the main ones, but he does get first phase banned is
[07:53:40] we know that's like very comfort pick for game religion. They love this on big num,
[07:53:46] but you got to do something. You got to bring some really early magic damage into the fray
[07:53:50] deal with it. The other hero that comes to mind to me is the Dark Willow. I think they actually
[07:53:56] had a lot of success on the Dark Willow-Largo combinations that we've seen. Like being able
[07:54:01] to pull people into the brambles is really, really strong. That's a lot of damage. But also gives
[07:54:07] you a lot of just solo kill potential against the Timbersaw potentially. He doesn't like playing
[07:54:12] around the brambles in general. Like being trying to timber chain in around those is a massive pain.
[07:54:18] Yeah, maybe something like Underlord could come out later.
[07:54:22] You can take a lot of damage from the Timbersaw, but the Pit is extremely annoying for him.
[07:54:27] Jaquiro, I think is probably in consideration right now for Gamer Legion, if they should
[07:54:32] ban it out.
[07:54:33] You could maybe hope to pick it yourself, and we'll see, because they actually go for
[07:54:39] the Shadow Demon.
[07:54:40] I actually think that's fair, since that easily removes Overgrowth, which is one of the better
[07:54:43] parts of the Trion Protector.
[07:54:45] also a good it's also just for
[07:54:47] Microsoft like yeah, it's also just good
[07:54:49] you get on
[07:54:53] see where they want to go from here from
[07:54:55] mouse if they want to try and address either an
[07:54:57] off lane or support ban
[07:54:59] I feel like at this point
[07:55:01] you're probably looking to limit
[07:55:03] fades hero pool
[07:55:05] so I feel like that's the lane that is
[07:55:07] either really feast or famine for
[07:55:09] game religion
[07:55:11] I don't think you're too worried about the safe lane like speeds
[07:55:13] speeds his two main heroes have already been removed the warlock and the Chen
[07:55:18] there are it's not like he can't play anything else but they get rid of the
[07:55:22] jikiro okay I think that's smart the jikiro Largo combo was ridiculous when
[07:55:26] we saw that so you don't want to give that one up yeah those are two of the
[07:55:31] strongest force to pair in the off lane at least in terms of just straight up
[07:55:36] laning damage so take them out I do think I guess there's two ways you can
[07:55:42] approach it. I feel Game Religion, their mid lane has been extremely consistent.
[07:55:47] RCY has been playing insane. Like even though Game Religion is struggling as a whole, his
[07:55:53] individual performances have been really stand out, I'd say.
[07:55:56] Yeah, I agree. He's winning matchups and the 1v1 mids far more often than I think people expected.
[07:56:02] Yeah, yeah. He's making a great case for himself. The side lanes are where things are kind of falling
[07:56:07] apart. Not always like just straight up in the lanes, but like the way it connects back into the
[07:56:12] the team. So I feel like you can either approach that, okay, let's put a lot of pressure on
[07:56:16] the sidelines, or, okay, screw the sidelines, like they'll mess up somewhere, like put the
[07:56:20] pressure on RCY. And it depends, you know, it depends on your view of the game. Kind
[07:56:25] of curious to see what Maus does, because I actually think you can say something similar
[07:56:28] for them. They have more experience and I'd say the caliber of players a little higher.
[07:56:33] But a lot of their success right now feels like, oh, mid one is popping off and we know
[07:56:38] know how to play around that and it's making a space for one of our side lanes to farm up.
[07:56:43] Or we're struggling, can't make space, you know, it's not connecting back in.
[07:56:48] Like they actually feel very similar in how they are winning or losing games, which should,
[07:56:54] I don't know, either is then a super stomp or it gets dragged out into a long game.
[07:56:59] So go for the Shadow Fiend, which I'm pretty sure this is what will be YAM since here.
[07:57:04] I don't think they're going to play this min on RCY.
[07:57:07] You have tree and protector as the five right for speed.
[07:57:10] It plays decently well with the shadow fiend.
[07:57:13] It's not like the most standout combo, but it is a quite a bit of physical damage from
[07:57:19] his right clicks.
[07:57:20] And we you've talked about it in one of the previous series that like one of tree protectors
[07:57:23] biggest lane contributions to the fact that he punches you for 90 plus damage.
[07:57:29] And shadow fiend does bring some minus armor into the lane.
[07:57:31] So could be an interesting combo.
[07:57:34] slight roots could help set up you know just easy two raises yeah I also think
[07:57:40] you can actually play position for Trent if you want like you can do the
[07:57:44] clockwork shadowing depending on what comes up I was gonna ask about that
[07:57:48] fires now picked I think you do want to switch this because snapfire two ways to
[07:57:53] get out of power cogs the cookie or you just farm them with little shredder and
[07:57:58] then Trent doesn't want to deal with the the timbersaw that much so I think it
[07:58:01] makes sense to lane swap here. You could maybe then try to do something similar because this
[07:58:07] could be a mid tiny and then you put snapfire with the timber saw a little bit of an awkward pairing
[07:58:12] but to deal with the clockwork and to just oh you're raising me okay I will you know cookie you
[07:58:17] away and then you timber chain away you got a lot of ways to not get killed now.
[07:58:23] I think they would have liked the clockwork on mouse it's a pretty good support into treatment
[07:58:28] protector
[07:58:38] Clinks and when we're under are okay if you want to think about them ooh the wind ranger does actually sound very nice I
[07:58:45] Don't I'm telling crystals has like obviously plays, but I'm wondering if they want something. That's more
[07:58:53] Okay, the gold lion so we'll end up just being a mid tiny
[07:58:55] Okay, you have an 18 pick here for RCY. I feel like it could be it could be mid Timbersaw
[07:59:02] I guess if you want to like move tiny to a different lane
[07:59:05] But I feel like you need to pick RCY's hero here and give him a strong matchup
[07:59:11] The question is what is that gonna be like it like the puck is good for the game, but it's rough into the tiny mid I
[07:59:17] Still think you can do it. Yeah and the lion
[07:59:21] He could do it
[07:59:25] Ember also gets kind of shut down from the lion, but outside of the lion
[07:59:30] There's not a lot of good catch for him and it's a really good spirit vessel game like really good spirit vessel game
[07:59:37] Yeah
[07:59:38] Leshrac is okay
[07:59:39] It's less of a playmaker, but it has safer lane matchups and the magic damage is very very good versus timbersaw
[07:59:47] You have enough to get through the tanky tiny as well
[07:59:50] You'll shred these supports if you blink on top though. We don't see the blink build as much
[07:59:54] Sometimes we see the board is coming out. Oh fades a nigma. Actually, they played this earlier today, and it didn't go super hot
[08:00:04] But it is one of the heroes that he does pull out
[08:00:07] Every once in a while or was it yesterday they played the enigma might have been yesterday. They played the enigma
[08:00:14] Yeah, they played it for spirit yesterday
[08:00:17] He's very good at this hero and it is gonna give them some really strong team fights. I
[08:00:22] I
[08:00:24] Worry because there's a lot of spells to deal with it
[08:00:27] But you do get to ban to protect it right you get rid of the gyrocopter. You might even consider banning
[08:00:34] Like chrysalis underlord here
[08:00:40] Yeah, that could be an interesting one
[08:00:43] Usually it's ranged heroes you got to take out because the melee heroes pretty much all struggle into enigma
[08:00:50] but
[08:00:52] You can still move Lion and Snapfire around, and they have some AoE, so then another AoE hero, whoever it is, can help farm Idleons.
[08:01:00] And that's one way you can address this.
[08:01:03] Trying to pick another hero that just has an easy spell to hit Idleons with from a little bit of range.
[08:01:11] Because a single Lion stun or a Snapfire, like Scatter Blast plus one spell probably kills them.
[08:01:20] In terms of the hard lane enigma counters
[08:01:25] Okay, they get her to clink's that's a safer band for sure
[08:01:31] Doesn't necessarily deal well with Idle Ones, but
[08:01:34] Doesn't struggle too much in the lanes. He has really good last hit damage
[08:01:39] Yeah, you also the the skeletons are not affected by black hole
[08:01:42] So in a teamfight even if you black hole clink's you might still just die randomly
[08:01:47] the game. Uh, which puts it
[08:01:55] into the black hole. So no
[08:01:57] Storm spirit for RCY. This is
[08:01:58] the first time we've actually
[08:01:59] seen the storm spirit make it
[08:02:00] this far into the draft. It's
[08:02:02] usually first banned against
[08:02:04] game religion, but. Mixed all
[08:02:06] the way to the very last band
[08:02:07] and now they have to pick up
[08:02:08] their mid lane unless they are
[08:02:09] planning the shadow fiend and
[08:02:10] you want to pick something new
[08:02:11] for the carry role here, but I
[08:02:12] think you need. Uh like a
[08:02:17] I was ready for Largo to come out one more time
[08:02:22] Honestly not a bad Largo game for mouths if you will to do some weird like tiny carry
[08:02:29] Okay, yeah, you got your ember playmaker with all the hardest counters banned out unless you want to like
[08:02:38] Yeah, I mean you'd have to do sniper carry if you wanted to do that so they're not gonna bother
[08:02:42] Bristleback, we forgot to talk about that one, but Quill Spray is one of the ways you add in some of that negative
[08:02:47] Or sorry, not negative. The AoE damage to kill the Eidolons
[08:02:51] You can actually still do damage to herring black hole as well from the the Quill sprays that they're hitting you from that angle.
[08:03:00] I like it. It's a cool one. It's a
[08:03:03] It's a hero that also can close the gap on the Shadow Fiend and try and just get some damage
[08:03:08] You need to be a little bit careful if the shadow fiend is really farmed and you don't have a hero already on top of them
[08:03:13] Like if mid one hasn't gotten the avalanche toss or Yamaha hasn't gotten like the blink stun or hex
[08:03:19] While running in the shadow fiend will pretty much rip this bristle back apart. So you need to be careful
[08:03:25] And it will be big num on the clockwork so the four position clockwork and the five position trillionth protector
[08:03:32] Seller will be taking the five position snapfire kind of as expected right you want to put this into the clockwork lane
[08:03:37] Do you think it's they kind of locked in before even seeing it so?
[08:03:42] Yeah, I think you could swap it still like I think big num could play in the five and speed could go in the off lane if they really wanted
[08:03:48] That's true. You just like move around. I think even if you don't match them up perfectly. It's okay. I think
[08:03:56] snapfire I
[08:03:58] Think you want snapfire in the safe lane versus the enigma because I just don't think lion does enough
[08:04:04] He can't really stand toe-to-toe with the Inalons, and his AoE damage in the Earth Spike is just not that strong.
[08:04:13] And I think he has some negative armor synergy with the Snapfire Bristleback, where you're like, you're cooking him in, nasal goo, plus little shredder.
[08:04:21] Can actually do quite a lot of damage.
[08:04:23] Maybe onto the Enigma is tough unless Fade steps up too far, but either of these supports, they're usually strong,
[08:04:32] But like that combo is good and they're gonna have to respect that keep their keep their distance until the idolons are ready
[08:04:45] All right, well this should be a fun series I actually really like the drafts from both teams
[08:04:49] We haven't seen an enigma you and I I mean the tournament has we've seen a nigma pick
[08:04:53] but we haven't had a chance to cast an enigma game quite yet and
[08:04:56] And it would make sense that it comes from Gamer Legion, a hero that they love to play, I believe Fade Grandmaster, on this enigma.
[08:05:04] So we'll see what they can get done. Is they're gonna be taking on Maus here in this best of one.
[08:05:09] Both teams been struggling throughout this group stage, but this is a potential turning point for them.
[08:05:15] So we'll see if they can get the job done, which team is gonna come out the victor, and maybe carry that into their final series here today.
[08:05:23] Do you want to point out fist of death on the lion? He's ready to just beat some heroes down
[08:05:31] Hell yeah, Yamich I love walking Yamich. I think he plays some fun heroes and fun style like
[08:05:36] No, no boring essence eater stuff. He's here to punch
[08:05:41] Also, the place is really really observe reward top
[08:05:43] I imagine looking for speed rotating between the gates in this he does a lot of rotating in general speed is one of the hero
[08:05:50] The players specifically that we do see make a lot of twin gate rotations
[08:05:55] Yeah, and it looks tricky, but you actually can twin gate while in this the entire time
[08:06:01] So without an observer you just like wouldn't know if he's in the lane roaming somewhere
[08:06:07] It's very dangerous for here that just gets that route pretty early now on the leech seed
[08:06:14] Big numb coming for a little bit of a wrap around here. It's gonna try and
[08:06:17] and
[08:06:20] Does manage to yank a bounty rune stones are going two for two overall so pretty even
[08:06:28] Someone say exactly even you know debatable maybe
[08:06:32] Let's put some RNG on those bounty rune. Just like
[08:06:35] Some guys get the high bloods. I'm gonna get alone. You're like they have rigged
[08:06:39] Can you imagine your banner and just gives you anywhere from being from like one to a hundred gold
[08:06:44] It would be kind of sick about the very start of the game. Cool use of the cogs and delay the creeps here just a moment
[08:06:50] So this will shove out instantly
[08:06:52] It'd be kind of funny if every game the bounty runes had like different values, but both teams knew so it's just like
[08:06:59] Oh, this is the most valuable
[08:07:00] You know you have to choose whether you're engaging that or going for the other ones
[08:07:04] Can you imagine being an alchemist and it's the game where they're worth nothing and you're like, oh, I
[08:07:09] Guess we lose. I guess I just lose
[08:07:11] Unlucky should have had better RNG, RCY mid lane having some fun here on the
[08:07:20] Ember getting out the night under the enemy tower is always nice but doesn't
[08:07:26] have his level 2 quite yet so mid one able to to punish it.
[08:07:31] Fomblain, creep aggro that creep aggro trick first into blocking both camps so
[08:07:37] The lane will be staying up close by enigma. This is where you can punish him
[08:07:42] Honestly level one the idolons are not that scary so you can just like run in fight. They got one creep
[08:07:47] How do they get this?
[08:07:50] Celery managed to aggro one melee creep all the way back to the tower. I
[08:07:55] Feel like that's a little bit of a slip up from game or Legion. I think that should just stay top
[08:08:01] Yeah, that's really rough and chrysalis. He's just gonna walk up start doing some damage to the idolons
[08:08:06] Yeah, Scatterblast cleans them up, too.
[08:08:11] Oh, the impressive front half-pull from speed up top.
[08:08:18] It's usually hard to only aggro the front two creeps.
[08:08:21] The back two are a lot easier, but I'll get intentionally grabbed the front two creeps.
[08:08:26] That'll fix their lane.
[08:08:29] I'm not just surprised there aren't more trees cut here.
[08:08:33] Yeah, like a lot of times people just walk in with
[08:08:36] with each quality blade and start cutting them away,
[08:08:39] but you don't really have quality blade in this lane.
[08:08:42] Yeah, or even timber, just like using one whirling death,
[08:08:45] but I guess he wants to like save them
[08:08:46] to try to get the damage in later.
[08:08:54] Or so I slower starts actually, it's not that bad,
[08:08:57] but obviously being the one in mid ones position right now.
[08:09:03] It's a tiny right, like this guy's got so much,
[08:09:06] Damage at level 1 and 2 which is Treetoss, so like he's guaranteed to get some denies
[08:09:11] And I think that second wave where he had under his tower and he was able to
[08:09:16] To get the level too early kind of hurt RC white quite a bit
[08:09:22] Say that and you see him you're struggling all that much now RC white definitely coming back in the lane
[08:09:28] as the off-lane of the enigma that I'm most worried about like the bristleback is not bothered at all here
[08:09:40] and we see the snapfire even have a decent chunk of CS like these are all cogs right that nine CS is is just getting all cogs
[08:09:48] every time he pops the yeah so it's not as uh it looks really extreme down there but the cogs are worth money just not as much
[08:09:57] He has creeps, of course, but usually enigmas aren't a little higher up in the last hits and denies.
[08:10:04] He is level 3 now, so it should be easier. I say that though, he's actually just doing some jungle enemies.
[08:10:10] I mean, his idolons keep dying in the lane. I think you actually are better off doing this, like getting a camp and doing this.
[08:10:17] Oh no, the stack resets because of the idolons dying. That hurts, so it doesn't actually get the stack.
[08:10:27] Water rune both actually going to game religion nice rotation from speed denying that over to the tiny and
[08:10:36] Top lane yempsons having a good time not really slowing down boom on the timber by any means, but I think overall he's
[08:10:44] Decent start on the shadow fiend
[08:10:46] Speed placing his own observer top after looking for the exact same twin gate rotations.
[08:11:01] I don't think he was spotted from the path he took.
[08:11:07] Oh, actually did that just in time.
[08:11:14] have just seen celery slip through the twin gate. Yeah, they know. I mean, with with the
[08:11:21] enigma just in the jungle and clockwork soaking the farm on the wave, like, I think they realize
[08:11:26] like we need to do something. Oh, yeah, I'm just walking up. I mean, they had to know
[08:11:30] they saw him. That's a bait. Topium. That's like a dead bait. I don't know. I mean, they
[08:11:37] saw him 100%. So the thing is, with these extreme observer wards, you only see the twin gate
[08:11:43] really activate and if you immediately step out it's a very quick flash if
[08:11:47] you're not actually looking at that moment so it may just be one of those
[08:11:51] things you missed but you you were definitely set up to see that rotation
[08:11:54] yeah it's like there's no excuse for not seeing it like they celery a hundred
[08:11:59] percent was visible under the ward through that rotation and that is a very
[08:12:04] costly death on death on the shadow fiends gonna get timbersaw in early level
[08:12:07] 6 which means he can dive the shadow fiend here any moment
[08:12:17] first power rune gonna go to rc1 rcy1 v3 with the rune spawn
[08:12:25] very fortunate for him it is just an invis and not the greatest one
[08:12:28] in a weird spot here on the bristleback but trying to absorb as much damage as possible
[08:12:38] with the ember spirit to come in to punish this though will be a worthwhile rotation
[08:12:43] from rcy.
[08:12:44] a little strange to play up that far when your own team is doing stacks in the triangle.
[08:12:54] he has been doing well in this lane so i guess he just wanted to really put the pressure
[08:12:57] on to fade but I think that's probably the long time to do that.
[08:13:01] That is either a pixel out or they haven't stuck their head in to see that sentry.
[08:13:05] No, it's outside I think, yeah.
[08:13:06] I think it's just barely outside.
[08:13:08] It's quite unlucky.
[08:13:12] Lion's using a courier.
[08:13:13] He's like, where is this?
[08:13:14] I know there's a sentry somewhere.
[08:13:15] No, he didn't.
[08:13:16] Oh, he high ground missed for the poles.
[08:13:17] Yeah, he was trying to stack and high ground missed.
[08:13:20] That means he won't know to go for that sentry either.
[08:13:23] Yeah, as I said, they won't know the centuries there now until the next spawn.
[08:13:31] Very funny how those little things matter.
[08:13:36] I think he's just lost the game because of that.
[08:13:39] All right, all tough for run it back.
[08:13:42] Done. Clearly the RNG is not with us.
[08:13:44] We lost the power root. I didn't miss uphill.
[08:13:47] It's over.
[08:13:48] Faye just continuing to jungle on his enigma.
[08:13:56] Getting the early, I mean is it early?
[08:13:58] Drums not actually quite yet completed to go for the tranquil boots first since he's
[08:14:03] just, like I said, pretty much just jungling.
[08:14:06] So it's giving good XP over to Big Num, like he's level 5 already as the support.
[08:14:12] I'm having that bad of a time.
[08:14:17] I really think this lane is supposed to go better.
[08:14:20] Shield Rune, picked up by Bignum.
[08:14:23] It's supposed to go better.
[08:14:25] Enigma is at least one of the off laners
[08:14:26] who can jungle so fast, so early,
[08:14:29] that when you add it up,
[08:14:31] like the value Clockwork's getting from lane
[08:14:33] and Enigma's getting, it's maybe okay.
[08:14:36] But it's also been bounced out by Celery
[08:14:38] being free to roam and kill that SF top,
[08:14:40] whether Celery should not have happened.
[08:14:42] And then Bristleback, they've gotten the camps open,
[08:14:44] So he's laning and shoving in like into the jungle. So he's also farming quite well despite that one death
[08:14:51] He had oh, they do get that century. Okay. It was pixel in they just had to look around the tree
[08:14:59] Like big rotation top here speed I mean he's scouts and he knows what's going on like
[08:15:05] Mid ones here booms here again shadow fiend cannot really contest its inverse all once he has his level six
[08:15:10] trying to heal up the tower here and delay things with the fortification as
[08:15:15] well. It's wasted some time. This is usually where you'd be pressuring on the
[08:15:20] other side with your nigma and he is coming down to do that. Ember's here, it's coming top though.
[08:15:24] Clockwork's coming in as well. Not quite level six but we'll TP in. They're gonna
[08:15:29] save the tower with this. If you're gonna do this I think you bring a nigma as
[08:15:34] well he's got his drums and black hole. Yeah okay they protect the tower there's
[08:15:45] a lot of damage in but this is where you have a tree protector we'll see if you
[08:15:47] can heal it up in time. Three points in the living armor. He's in too far he's
[08:15:59] gonna get caught here for the more because his pops the requiem to try and
[08:16:02] live but the damage is too much and he will die hook shot way off the mark but
[08:16:07] they will get their hands maybe on the timber saw. Steering chains is out stun
[08:16:12] trying to prevent fade from closing the gap onto boom they actually don't manage
[08:16:16] to get the timber chain to safety but they will black hole him just in case
[08:16:20] they need that extra lockdown a one for one but still a pretty massive win for
[08:16:25] mouths there's a 3d5 mind you and they still get the shadow fiend he he has no
[08:16:33] form of escape into the the snapfire ult and unfortunately clockwork wasn't
[08:16:38] quite in range so I canceled the ult earlier
[08:16:42] mid one sneaking in sneaking out has a haste for you to be a little careful
[08:16:47] that one of the better runes to make a play before the blink daggers online
[08:16:55] You can have to bring more heroes top if they want to defend this, another catapult is coming
[08:17:06] in with a creep wave and the tower hasn't been healed up that much yet.
[08:17:10] I don't think it's gonna survive here, at least for much longer with the creep wave
[08:17:19] coming in, boom, tanking the tower.
[08:17:20] I think this one is pretty much done
[08:17:26] Mid also took a beating they could try to save that bottom lane also took a beating from earlier because the lane
[08:17:32] So all the tier ones being threatened quite fast, which is not what you want a true protector
[08:17:36] You like to be able to save these keep them alive
[08:17:39] but
[08:17:41] Living armor can only be so high level at the start
[08:17:45] Can't heal everything if all the lanes are taking damage
[08:17:50] He finds mid one on this smoke
[08:17:54] It's a very close game still two to two very small gold advantage
[08:17:58] But bottom lane they're looking to try and fresh the tower fortification comes out tiny gonna try and maybe dodge out a hookshot
[08:18:04] No
[08:18:05] Overgrowth from speed if you have it maybe a much easier entry into this but for now big num
[08:18:10] Do his best here to try and defend his tower, but the toss damage. It's gonna be too much. Look at the deny instead
[08:18:20] immediately heals the mid tower. I've got one left. Gotta try to keep that one alive.
[08:18:31] It's not as much healing anymore as it used to be, right, in terms of keeping buildings
[08:18:36] alive? No, it's a lot worse. It's 13 heal per second
[08:18:40] for 12 seconds, and the cooldown being relatively long. Well, the cooldown is lowered now, now
[08:18:46] that you like max first so it's a little better than it was but oh the vessel comes out from rcy
[08:18:53] but the hex in from yamich has the finger death but with that flame guard afraid to really commit
[08:19:00] yeah it would have blocked way too much so good play from rcy there using that arcane rune taken
[08:19:06] down the timber is what we've been saying with ours oh my lord that is a lot of stacks all right
[08:19:15] They need to try and contest this.
[08:19:19] It would be nice, but I mean, you have black hole.
[08:19:22] The best stacks, dealing heroes.
[08:19:25] Ember black hole it.
[08:19:27] I was going to say, Ember and Shadow Fiend have a lot of a we magic damage,
[08:19:31] but I think you'd have to bring the whole team is the thing.
[08:19:35] Yeah.
[08:19:36] Timbersaw is not letting these go away.
[08:19:37] So he's going to clean them up right now.
[08:19:40] I would have been up for it.
[08:19:41] Oh, I could have taken snipe someone.
[08:19:42] Rocket player.
[08:19:43] So I guess you get something.
[08:19:45] It would have been nice and I imagine you'd vary up for it if they would have tried, but like you said you need a lot
[08:19:51] randomly find that century
[08:19:53] Unlucky speed
[08:19:55] All right with that
[08:19:57] That's a lot of gold for the supports the stacks paying off you can see them now towering over their opponents in terms of net worth
[08:20:08] As the 14 minute wisdom trines are gonna spawn no real contest for these so each each team gonna be able to get these pretty easily
[08:20:13] Shadowfiend is going to go to the Kaiyasha build that we've been seeing, more of the Burst potential, which is really good when you have a hero like Enigma, right?
[08:20:24] Or if you have like a slight change, just easy from RCY, and you can just go in for a blink Requiem, like there's, there are plays to be made there.
[08:20:32] Yeah, he will have to get his BKB though.
[08:20:35] Yeah, I like the idea. It does scare me a little bit though because I feel like the
[08:20:40] Anson has been taught out a couple times as part of the struggles game religion in finding
[08:20:43] and the downside of this build is you are squishier than usual.
[08:20:47] Yeah, I completely agree.
[08:20:51] He's got good teammates to set him up though, so it will work out if you can bait with the
[08:20:58] Ember lead in with the enigma and then fall up with the Requiem overall smoke up
[08:21:10] from game religion head into the bottom lane they have vision of christs like you're saying
[08:21:15] this would be a massive kill if they can get it ember spirit with the slight chains and the vessel
[08:21:22] really all you need to set this one up and he's going to get revealed right on the other side of
[08:21:27] this uh tree line trying to hold the black hole they'll just commit it anyway they want to make
[08:21:32] sure they get this kill yeah you definitely just use it do not save that all right there's nothing
[08:21:38] easiest black hole game there's a lot of different stuns it's going to take a while to get to like
[08:21:41] blink bkb so just take whatever big kill you can get carry bristle pretty good and then hopefully
[08:21:47] there's a bottom tower yeah it's uh it's like an extenuation of the uh the aura building cores
[08:21:54] lately but Bristol was like one of the first to do this kind of stuff he already has a lot of damage with seeing red so I
[08:22:01] Think I'm just idea
[08:22:02] I'm just wondering if you feel like it they're gonna be lacking damage in the mid game if he goes for like
[08:22:08] Tiny does a lot of burst damage you have I guess maybe the supports or some of the highest damage hero
[08:22:14] Supports in the game right now. So maybe that's the idea looking for mid one
[08:22:17] Yeah, I don't know that is not enough heroes here to find that kill
[08:22:26] Yeah, I think the support will cover you more diverse cases plus the timber saw
[08:22:32] Fist of death line. I mean like, you know the infinite scaling right there. He's gonna
[08:22:37] Pick up some right click items
[08:22:40] See this snapfire is huge
[08:23:12] ever kisses aren't going to do a whole lot in speed.
[08:23:14] He's looking for the overgrowth.
[08:23:15] Only going to catch two with it so far.
[08:23:17] In comes the avalanche toss from mid one,
[08:23:19] and they're all gone, man.
[08:23:21] Instantly takes down the enigma, looking for more,
[08:23:25] as R.C.Y. will hobble back to the base.
[08:23:34] Speaking of damage issues, actually on the side
[08:23:36] of Gamer Legion, overgrowth and like Hookshot,
[08:23:41] These are not damage abilities, you can see this,
[08:23:45] that's why the Bristle does not get any damage.
[08:23:48] The Timbersaw will carry them through this,
[08:23:49] the Snapfire will carry them through this.
[08:23:51] Before you hear any flame on speed,
[08:23:53] the Overgrowth cannot cancel Mortimer's Kisses,
[08:23:56] just because of the way it's coded.
[08:23:57] Yeah, so he can't really stop it.
[08:24:00] They do not want to let this go,
[08:24:02] so Fade will keep you up here,
[08:24:04] try and keep his tower alive.
[08:24:06] Yamsun, with the help of RCY,
[08:24:07] will look for the Timbersaw Triple Raise,
[08:24:10] He jumps into the back line, but just surrounded by all five heroes now needs to be careful
[08:24:14] So I see why I still got the tail into the flamethrower running getting a little bit of burn damage pulling Chrysalis back into the Cogs
[08:24:20] But the Crimson Guard keeping him plenty healthy scan out on the left side here. Yeah, so needs to be careful
[08:24:26] He's all alone mid one's gonna find him gets to toss back. He's in no man's land
[08:24:30] You're gonna lose your shadow feed here once again black hole onto to they need to turn this fight around
[08:24:36] round they get another is be trying to close the gap and RCY might be able to
[08:24:41] clean up mid one here in the mid lane does have another vessel charge in a
[08:24:45] moment that's hearing chains are outfated trying to block off any sort of
[08:24:49] help so you get the shadow fiend but a costly extended fight here is RCY the
[08:24:55] big winner she goes back around they won the first fight mouse did because they
[08:25:02] had the ultimates and that follow-up fight, those ult are down so now you are missing
[08:25:06] a significant chunk of the-
[08:25:08] Yeah, these damage are pretty good.
[08:25:11] The death requiem was all his damage man, he threw like one raise before he died and
[08:25:17] did like 2300 damage.
[08:25:19] So if someone's going back the way of gamer legion, the black holes are connecting, it's
[08:25:26] It's often hard to find, but I killed Timbersaw, Bristleback, and then got that double kill
[08:25:33] just now.
[08:25:34] Sometimes you don't even see a black hole at this point.
[08:25:37] Yeah.
[08:25:38] Bottom lane.
[08:25:39] He's got eyes in the forest here providing a little bit of help.
[08:25:42] The Juno speed is in the trees though.
[08:25:44] Yeah, they found him.
[08:25:48] Good play there from Celery, and on the other side they actually find a kill, but RCY turns
[08:25:54] it around with the help of fade to take down tiny and much bigger. He has an amplified damage.
[08:26:00] That's a very dead lion. He just needs the spirit vessel connection, couple auto attacks.
[08:26:06] Fade has an enormous amount of italons here thanks to his aggro.
[08:26:10] You need a tower. They've lost all their outer towers. Fortunately, I find this mid one as
[08:26:15] they lose their own final tower. So really nice work with. You do lose the tormentor
[08:26:22] for this look. It will go to celery. That's where you want it. As if he wasn't rich enough.
[08:26:30] Even better farming tool for the Snapfire.
[08:26:32] Such a heads up play from Malz realizing that they're going to lose the mid tower, they're
[08:26:36] going to lose the Tiny and the Lion. They're like, yeah, let's get something out of it
[08:26:39] at least.
[08:26:41] I did the entire gold loot is the snapfire.
[08:26:53] It actually is.
[08:26:54] Like everything else is even and then there's just a snapfire that's 3,000 gold ahead of
[08:27:00] the other supports.
[08:27:01] Solar crash charge now on his way to a glimmer cape.
[08:27:07] Link it.
[08:27:08] X from Yamich, they really want to try and bring down the Emerson, some decent damage block coming through, gets a slight change into the Rendezwey mid one off the mark with the Avalanche, but will still find speed.
[08:27:22] You just lose speed, it's okay.
[08:27:24] Uh, Clockwork?
[08:27:26] I don't think you can get out of here, he has no TP, so.
[08:27:30] I thought they didn't see him around the tree for a second.
[08:27:32] Okay, you lose it you end up losing both supports, but the enigma and the shadow fiend once they saw that happening
[08:27:38] They immediately moved into the lanes
[08:27:41] This is where because that bottom tier one is up shadow fiend doesn't feel comfortable going further
[08:27:47] Yeah, we're worried about the quick teleport rotations plus the twin gate. Oh my gosh
[08:27:52] It's not wrong. There goes the tiny
[08:27:55] Priscilla's might be in trouble. Did they just go for the black hole? Maybe with the requiem. Yeah, you got the damage
[08:28:02] Two water return damage, that's the benefit of a little bristle, it doesn't matter in this case, but down the line
[08:28:07] Oh, maybe it will mid one didn't find anyone bottom
[08:28:11] You can find the niggle though. Yep
[08:28:14] I think that's still okay because you used black hole to kill the carry
[08:28:17] And we have downtime right now anyways. Okay, they're not gonna chase. I thought they were gonna go for more. I
[08:28:23] Think you could but they didn't know where the other heroes were so they wanted to play it safe
[08:28:27] bottom tower almost died to the catapult the idolons are on their way to just
[08:28:33] brute force it oh yeah he's gonna get him there they go finally taking a tier one
[08:28:39] tower in the bottom lane nice micro there from fade split
[08:28:47] Alright, 11-10. This game has been very neck and neck, but the advantage has been slightly
[08:29:00] in favor. Oh my god, he just barely missed the tree. Up the Gary gets it this time. It's
[08:29:04] been slightly in favor of Malz, and now they will look for the Roshan in the bottom pit
[08:29:08] here. You have this Bristleback, you have the Timbersaw to tank it. Scout it out now
[08:29:14] by the clockwork but no black hole for quite some time. It'd be up to the ember spirit if they
[08:29:19] want to try and contest and they do see him topside so I think this one we'll see what big num can
[08:29:24] do he's gonna get found. So no hook shot to try and cancel or snipe the Roshan they'll just commit
[08:29:30] the finger of death. Saying alive actually a little bit longer than expected. Did he still get a
[08:29:36] finger death charge? I wasn't keeping track he's at three now. I think so because he was still
[08:29:42] hitting him with the fist of death which like you know that's true that's true
[08:29:45] yeah gets the duration with the lotus killed that's a good way to delay delay
[08:29:50] this push okay it is like you were saying it's a pretty close game and this
[08:29:56] isn't enigma right who's going blank black hole the later it goes you tend to
[08:30:03] favor these kind of spells plus you get the vision from Trent I do favor game
[08:30:08] in the lake in like that have a typical carry in shadow fiend bristle is a carry
[08:30:13] but he's doing this like aura build so the damage is a little lower than usual
[08:30:18] but we did mention the support kind of cover that speed I mean someone's got a
[08:30:23] tank it right like all the cores are dodging out as much as possible this is
[08:30:28] something he can do and just use a living armor in between tests I mean
[08:30:35] Game really turns out a really good job efficiently farming right top two net worth are still a shadow fiend in the ember spirit
[08:30:40] Like RCY has had an incredible game
[08:30:43] You don't normally see ember as like a top net worth contender in a lot of games, right?
[08:30:48] So I say that easy. He's getting caught out top side, but I don't think he's that
[08:30:53] Fragile they're bringing some other heroes though
[08:30:56] I got the mid tower, what's going on with the Ember?
[08:31:01] Oh, Hookshot from Big Nom will assassinate the Lion, the hero.
[08:31:06] You know, they make this play, but it doesn't quite pan out.
[08:31:10] So mid tier 2 is dead though, a nice opening of the map.
[08:31:15] Okay, I gotta ask you, because I do favor game relegion in the late game.
[08:31:23] What's the timer here for mouse?
[08:31:25] How quick do they have to try and start breaking the high ground of gamer legion?
[08:31:31] Um, I don't think they're totally out into the late game.
[08:31:38] So if it goes late, like it's okay, you know, don't feel pressure to make mistakes, although
[08:31:44] there is a black hole requiem, we like we're saying this is a guaranteed kill every time.
[08:31:52] And now you just go back to farming.
[08:31:54] You just take the highest net worth hero off the map from Malz.
[08:31:57] Oh, I say that.
[08:31:58] They're going to find Fate here again.
[08:31:59] You're going to try and get bailed out.
[08:32:00] They do get the Overgrowth, but Fate is still dead.
[08:32:03] Celery stuck inside the cogs.
[08:32:05] Getting bounced back and forth.
[08:32:06] Another kill for Yamson.
[08:32:08] I think it's time to run if you're gamer-leagent.
[08:32:12] You don't have much left in the tank here.
[08:32:13] And Midwads going to find two.
[08:32:15] Tossback onto Yamson.
[08:32:16] Actually, she has a BKB.
[08:32:17] It's ready.
[08:32:18] The hookshot actually clips an Eidolon to Midlan.
[08:32:21] Stuck inside the cogs.
[08:32:22] Crimson guards pining him a lot of time.
[08:32:24] They need RCY to get over here to help finish the job.
[08:32:26] Is he going to be able to?
[08:32:27] The Slites does come through.
[08:32:29] And now Chrysalis on the Bristol back, chasing down
[08:32:31] Big Num Stun.
[08:32:32] No, not needed from Yamich.
[08:32:34] They will do their best to run.
[08:32:35] RCY is going to punish the Lyon.
[08:32:38] And now it's Chrysalis versus everybody.
[08:32:40] Boom, he's actually respawned.
[08:32:42] RCY, another remnant, should be able to get to safety.
[08:32:46] But there's going to be more Goose Stacks coming his way.
[08:32:49] Has to be, KB.
[08:32:50] Pops the chain, staying on top of him.
[08:32:52] the pipe does come out. The most extended fight of the game. It feels like a route on
[08:32:57] the chrysalis, but just turns his back, doesn't kill. Boom pops the lows to get rid of the
[08:33:01] malifist, but in comes the atmosphere. Chains on to both. Yanzan's gonna blink in, gets
[08:33:04] the raise. Can they finish the job? They take down. Boom. Chrysalis still has the ages,
[08:33:09] but they really want to claim it. I don't think you can. The hairball to slow them up
[08:33:14] is they will full retreat. And RCY, he found a regen rune during all of that. That was
[08:33:21] really fortunate rune for him so he can just immediately continue to play the map.
[08:33:26] This was such a long fight. 14,000 damage to 10,000 damage in a 27-minute fight.
[08:33:32] But part of it are the builds, right? These are actually lower damage lineups,
[08:33:36] especially just Bristle. Like, he's living so long, but he is not killing heroes the same way
[08:33:40] a typical carry Bristle build would work. And some of this is because Celery got found
[08:33:47] and killed right off the bat so they didn't get the like free 2000 plus damage from the Mortimer's
[08:33:52] Kisses just deleting a hero which we mentioned the supports cover the damage issues with this
[08:33:58] type of bristle build and we see what happens if you lose those supports so overall a very good
[08:34:03] fight for Gamer Legion they didn't quite find the ages like they would have liked but they pretty
[08:34:08] much wasted the time you know there's 30 more seconds on it and what did they do with that they
[08:34:12] They got like one tier two and considering the
[08:34:16] The feel of the game mouse hasn't had a massive lead, but they felt in control for most of this
[08:34:22] I think limiting it to just that's good speed
[08:34:28] He is playing with fire here
[08:34:30] Trees that picks up big numb. He's on the other side here trying to maybe
[08:34:35] Intercept as they try to retreat they will take him out of the fight right away
[08:34:39] RCY now and very far has the amplified damage. Yeah, you got to be very careful and no face working in the shadows
[08:34:47] With that black hole to get him the finger at this there. They don't respond in time and now you have to leave
[08:34:55] Not respecting the damage coming through from the side of mouths
[08:35:00] Speed
[08:35:03] Stay still speed
[08:35:05] I
[08:35:08] Think the courier saw him he still has the dust on him
[08:35:13] Yamach is there just in time. I
[08:35:16] Mean
[08:35:18] Okay, yeah, they got him there we go this time the
[08:35:22] Initiation from gamer Legion just a bit
[08:35:26] Disconnected right like the clockwork goes in first dies then the ember arrives gets controlled up dies as the
[08:35:34] BKB Requiem arrives to try to save him right like they're all just a few seconds apart
[08:35:38] But it makes it big enough that they're being like yeah, I mean it's a it's quote-unquote beta is more of a required
[08:35:44] Safety net or else you're
[08:35:48] Yeah, I'm son in trouble
[08:35:51] Pops the shadow blade does get the response, but
[08:35:57] That's a very big win and they're gonna get another as big num
[08:36:00] No real escape from the timbersaw and his bristleback
[08:36:04] I mean good play from Fade to try and salvage a really bad situation there.
[08:36:13] Yamsun has pushed it a little bit, so I'm just farming a bit too far as like you're
[08:36:23] unsure where the enemy team is.
[08:36:25] It's costing him some other games.
[08:36:26] This time it goes okay, kind of like you said, kind of forced, but at least you do kill the
[08:36:32] tiny. Yeah, trade. I mean, any time, like the thing is the
[08:36:38] fight's taking place at least in the enemy jungle. We keep
[08:36:41] talking like if game religion stall this one out, I do worry
[08:36:46] for the scaling potential of mouths like the silver edge is
[08:36:49] coming soon from the shadow fiend, right? Like we know that
[08:36:52] this is an item shadow fiends like to build generally. And
[08:36:55] it's very good this game as well. So at some point, you've
[08:37:01] Gotta go high ground.
[08:37:05] How much will get the second shard?
[08:37:08] Fates working on an agonims for the enigma, and it's like it's so re-strength course.
[08:37:13] So it's gonna do a lot of damage.
[08:37:16] You can, I guess like Bristle could get an abyssal at some point,
[08:37:19] but it's really inconsistent to land, especially when you're getting pulled in by the...
[08:37:24] Yags.
[08:37:25] Yeah, it is an incredible enigma game, right?
[08:37:28] Like, and that's why he just went to the jungle early.
[08:37:30] like yeah I'm just gonna farm my items right gets the boots of airing now has
[08:37:34] blink BKB and that agonimceptor could very much be a game turning item that
[08:37:39] being said Malus has kind of finally pushed the first real net worth
[08:37:43] advantage after that tormentor they're 6,000 ahead they've got some nice items
[08:37:47] that they just completed and bristleback you know not just tank anymore he can do
[08:37:52] some serious damage now
[08:37:55] Sanjaniya Shaddan in level 18, alright? 19, alright, so level 3 old.
[08:38:06] See what happens, smoke top lane as well.
[08:38:12] From gamer legion.
[08:38:13] RCI is showing really deep in the lane though, so he's going to have to rejoin them, come
[08:38:16] through the twin gate, dire scan shows that no one's down there.
[08:38:20] might just be a simple no one finds anybody scenario. Yeah, which is a little funny when
[08:38:27] there's a tree protector in the game. But mouse has bought a gem relatively early, so
[08:38:32] they're doing their best to clear out trees as they go. So actually the vision for game
[08:38:36] religion is quite dark right now. Yeah. See if they have just enough vision to find anybody,
[08:38:44] they're kind of passing by each other. I got six waves. All their waves are at their base,
[08:38:50] Like, mids at the tier three, bottoms of the tier two, they've got to fix these.
[08:38:58] Nice eye on the force there from Speedo. We'll start giving them some vision.
[08:39:01] Shield room, looking for a tossback perhaps?
[08:39:04] I mean, how do you kill this tiny with a shield room? Hookshot? Okay, maybe you can.
[08:39:10] They just caught the VKB, the Blackhold, the Requiem, okay?
[08:39:13] They just dump everything on him to get the kill. That'll do it.
[08:39:16] The confidence there from Gamer Legion is now RCY looking to put some pressure on the back side of the fight.
[08:39:21] They're going to buy back. They have the outpost to TP into. You've got to be careful. Here comes the hex, the stun to follow it up.
[08:39:27] There's more buybacks coming in. They want to punish. Yeah, so it's already popped the BKB. He's all alone on the high ground.
[08:39:32] He's going to get taken out for his aggression. And now RCY will have to do the rest of it himself.
[08:39:38] Will he be able to? Up onto the high ground. Revenants in, has another steering change. It's not going to be enough.
[08:39:43] to be enough he should survive triple buybacks out the side of this fight and
[08:39:53] with this chrysalis and mid one they're not done they could continue chasing for
[08:39:57] more they won't chase too hard because the reason you bought back is that you
[08:40:03] know Roche might be up and actually it was a really quick spawn so you'll see
[08:40:07] if the teams realize that they'll get one more in the kill on speed thanks to
[08:40:10] They have and I think they're heading over to check roast. They're gonna be rewarded for these buybacks
[08:40:16] It would have been really sad you buy back when this fight max spawn, but this should get them ages
[08:40:22] Big num can try to get there to snipe it
[08:40:26] Well, at least no they're sending the iron lawns in the rocket flare
[08:40:29] Can you delay this? I don't without ember
[08:40:33] You can midnight pulse it and that's like about it, but you gotta be very careful on the enigma
[08:40:37] Yeah, there it is. The glyph near that's done on boom. It makes it very difficult to contest
[08:40:45] So the ages banner
[08:40:50] Once again for the bristleback, I mean this fight really sick
[08:40:55] You get mid one is the call to just retreat here when you see the buybacks coming through or how do you play this?
[08:41:00] I guess you just leave now.
[08:41:05] It feels weird because it's like, oh it's 5v3, but you've already lost this outpost
[08:41:09] which opens up the buybacks, which is why they're able to win this fight.
[08:41:12] Without those buybacks, like you are okay.
[08:41:15] At the same time, if you had left there, it's not like they can chase you and they're not
[08:41:18] going to buy back 3v5.
[08:41:22] So too much, I don't know, maybe too much of the damage is in the black hole and the
[08:41:25] requiem because honestly, I kind of thought they could do it, but they also now have to
[08:41:30] kill a Timbersaw and a Bristle without those high damage abilities, and it's pretty tough.
[08:41:38] They were very split as well, like Enigma and Ember Spirit were on the right side of
[08:41:42] the fight trying to take the snap fire out so that she couldn't go for the Mortimer kisses.
[08:41:47] And the buyback from the lion just controls up the shadow fiend. He doesn't have the damage
[08:41:51] to kill the Bristle back quite yet. So, you know, hindsight, 20-20 gamer legion, maybe
[08:41:57] learning from that one. Take what you can get and then back away. How close are we on
[08:42:03] that Agatom Scepter? Okay, it is done. So Agatom Scepter, done for the Enigma, does have
[08:42:08] a refresher queued, but this is one of the biggest items for their team fight. Okay,
[08:42:14] speed is right on the edge of this gem here, hiding in the trees. Okay, they found him.
[08:42:26] Maybe a little too aggressive positioning. I understand the idea of trying to go for like a an overgrowth to prevent
[08:42:33] You know any follow-up here, but he's got the blank. He should be on the right side. I think it's safer
[08:42:42] You're three dead you're gonna have to do something soon smoked up on the enigma hookshot in they go pass him
[08:42:47] actually finding the Bristol back with the break, but
[08:42:50] Not dying quite yet. Chrysalis does not seem all that bothered
[08:42:56] He's gonna finish up the range racks, turn his attention towards the melee, give us a
[08:43:02] few more times to change.
[08:43:04] Paul's actually a little bit of an awkward spot.
[08:43:07] I mean you can't black hole him right?
[08:43:10] Is the problem?
[08:43:11] No, you need the Aegis to go down first.
[08:43:15] You're trying to poke him down but he's gating health, he's got so much regen.
[08:43:22] are still alive or the banks thanks to the living honor and he's just gonna back the
[08:43:27] region
[08:43:30] those catapult before it kills you
[08:43:34] high ground kind of kept alive
[08:43:38] Yeah, only losing the range back. It's not that bad considering that was a banner ages push
[08:43:42] But there's still two minutes on this ages, so I think they're gonna try again. Yeah, you guys got to be careful not to step up too far
[08:43:49] We saw earlier he can be killed
[08:43:51] before he can BKB if they commit enough chainsuns.
[08:43:58] Yeah, the initiation is absolutely key for both teams, right?
[08:44:02] The hero that gets tossed back from mid one, probably gonna die.
[08:44:05] The hero that gets blackholed by the enigma, also probably gonna die.
[08:44:12] I know buybacks this time. You used them earlier, so...
[08:44:14] Mouse does have to be a bit careful here.
[08:44:17] It means the game drags on. We get a little closer to this refresher.
[08:44:21] I think you buy it out when you get there so three thousand more gold
[08:44:30] Awkward spot has the crimson guard active drill still trying to save
[08:44:34] This melee racks and it's gonna survive once again one minute left on this ages, and then you cannot push this high ground again
[08:44:42] those
[08:44:43] Okay, because they have map control they got away with that, but actually
[08:44:47] actually the team was really split up on mouths like if gamer legion and just sent it
[08:44:54] They would have killed the bristleback and then black hold them
[08:44:56] But they thought like surely this is a bait surely everyone's behind him so they didn't go
[08:45:03] That'll be the tail end of the ages
[08:45:05] So gamer legion likely to look for a smoke player right now. They do have an eye in the forest that is doing work
[08:45:11] It's gonna get cleaned up right now, but they had a pretty good idea of where they all are
[08:45:15] are. Regen on mid one. Chris was going to make one final attempt here. 30 seconds on
[08:45:21] the ages to try and get this melee racks that has just been getting slightly healed by this
[08:45:26] tree protector. They're not giving this up this time, right? After all of this, they're
[08:45:32] actually just going to get the four staff. We're going to give it up after all of the
[08:45:35] effort you put in to keep this alive. We'll see break is their vessel out. Chris list
[08:45:42] Four seconds left on the ages. You need to run.
[08:45:46] The enigma is on the hunt. No, OK, they'll give it up.
[08:45:52] And the base still alive for game religion.
[08:45:57] That's why it's important to move around as you hit things.
[08:45:59] Bigfoot was trying to force staff that Bristol in further while hitting the barracks,
[08:46:04] but personal turn in the last second.
[08:46:05] So he ended up going to the side, which kept them safe.
[08:46:08] It's a little bit scary, even if he did go far back.
[08:46:11] But you know, you run in to try to save him.
[08:46:13] That's where the black hole cuts everyone in the back off.
[08:46:16] You land landed on four.
[08:46:18] Yeah. I mean, also with the ages, expiration time there,
[08:46:22] like Chris would have probably not made it out of the base in time.
[08:46:31] They are constantly applying pressure bottom, but
[08:46:35] the name of the game for game religion is to stall this one out.
[08:46:38] And they've managed to do it once again against the ages.
[08:46:40] The question is how long can they keep doing this fade about to get caught here potentially
[08:46:48] Scan
[08:46:49] Does connect? They know exactly where they are good read from game religion and they will he be back to the base
[08:46:56] Tiny with a wind waker mind you good way of saving heroes inside the black hole. Yeah, that's pretty good
[08:47:04] See if they can get any more of those who buys nullifier
[08:47:10] who does actually I guess it's gonna have to be ember at some point I don't
[08:47:18] really know if anyone else can afford to shut up when you're like dirt poor this
[08:47:24] game third tormentor for the side of mouths this one going to mid one at
[08:47:30] this point doesn't really make too much of a difference but does allow him to
[08:47:34] You know, if he really wants to transition to more damage, he could.
[08:47:40] It's not actually, it's not too bad, because if you're not caught, like you could jump in, save somebody,
[08:47:45] and if Tiny ramps around into the late game into the agonims and right click damage, like you're trying to kill people in Black Hole,
[08:47:52] and this volley of trees is destroying you.
[08:47:57] Alright, remnant recharge time on the Ember Spirit.
[08:48:00] Yamsun really needs his 25, like the Daedalus combined with the 25 talent where you get the
[08:48:06] Shadow Raze applies attack damage, is a huge boost to this hero, and he's just gonna sit here on the
[08:48:11] wisdom shrine until it spawns. He's like, I have one thing that I want.
[08:48:21] There you go, 25.
[08:48:23] Shana Raze applies attack damage.
[08:48:29] And then G is the farm over to fade.
[08:48:31] He's kept his greedy enchantment.
[08:48:33] He's really trying to get to the refresher and he's got it.
[08:48:36] Okay, see if he can stay out of sight.
[08:48:38] I don't think any observer see him right now.
[08:48:41] This is such a massive item.
[08:48:43] So perhaps you can surprise them with this refresher black hole.
[08:48:47] The thing is, Gamer Legion have been sitting on their side of the map for the longest time.
[08:48:52] time. They have not been able to get out and get really any value out of these eyes of the forest.
[08:48:58] That's the tougher time to surprise him with double black hole. Yeah, combine it with a gem,
[08:49:03] you know. All right, smoke up. Mid one. The smoke comes out. They find Chrysler's hookshot in.
[08:49:09] Do they just go for it is the question. The break is there. Holding the enigma for now. They still
[08:49:14] want to find their target. He's going to pop the black hole. It's going to try and pull the middle.
[08:49:18] There's the Wind Waker you gotta follow up one can they do it the second black hole onto the Bristol back
[08:49:23] They got him two heroes dead buybacks as well coming in from big num the vessel now doing serious damage over against this tiny
[08:49:31] He's dead for a hundred seconds. That's his dieback timer. They're now isolated the timbersaw
[08:49:35] They've isolated every single one of these heroes and can they actually escape on anybody?
[08:49:40] It's not gonna look like it. This could be a full freaking team life for gamer Legion ultra kill for yam, son
[08:49:46] They're doing it man
[08:49:48] That is a crazy fight they recover the gem as well the you couldn't ask for a better black hole or two of them
[08:49:55] You kill off the bristle. He is so much of the damage now like we're at the point where he is
[08:50:02] Carrying and timbersaw just can't move around in the fight the way he wants to you because so many the trees are actually
[08:50:08] Cut down by these midnight pulses
[08:50:11] They were waiting for while like you know
[08:50:13] They're trying to get in range to catch the tiny on the black hole so he can't get the wind waker
[08:50:17] But he still gets the lion so such a sick play from Fade
[08:50:24] Once once those heroes are down you can't win the fight you're trying to get away
[08:50:29] But you're trying to run from a chain gang amber. There's like no hope in the meantime gamer legion also gets rewarded with the
[08:50:36] third row so we gotta go back for that banner I think speeds going for it yeah
[08:50:42] they just didn't have space for it but they know you can very important I'm
[08:50:47] goodies behind after a game like this who's got the refresher it should be on
[08:50:51] SF now right double requiem in the double double BKB it's way too value and
[08:51:00] now gamer legion taking their first real gold advantage of the game they've
[08:51:03] finally gotten on to the enemy side of the map it feels like they've been the
[08:51:06] you know cornered this whole time they got that dog in a man they're they're
[08:51:13] back
[08:51:17] don't think anyone from that what was the team we had at the deep what was that
[08:51:22] dog team we had dog champ oh yeah yeah there we go right on the right on the nose
[08:51:27] dog champ I don't think any of them are here
[08:51:31] I'm turn I don't think many of them are still around RCY actually was the
[08:51:35] later of dog chant. That was this first team.
[08:51:37] Okay, we do have the dog in there.
[08:51:40] Uh, aid! Can't fight without the BKB refresher black hole. That is what won you the last fight, and that was, that is what will win you this game if you continue playing around it.
[08:51:51] Honestly?
[08:51:52] You just have to avoid the enemy until those cooldowns are up.
[08:51:54] 10 seconds till black hole? I think you just don't care about refresher right now. I think you just look for the black hole kill.
[08:52:00] I mean, it's like 18 seconds till the refresher though. I really think you should wait for it.
[08:52:04] They found food!
[08:52:06] Trying to freeze!
[08:52:07] Yeah, that is...
[08:52:10] a rough one.
[08:52:11] That being said, they're gonna go in.
[08:52:12] They find the Wind Waker target.
[08:52:15] That black hole just pulls them right in and, well...
[08:52:18] You can see they can bring down the Shadow Fiend.
[08:52:19] He's got the Aegis Pots, his BKB Fates, looking for the reset.
[08:52:21] He's gonna go back in, Overgrowth catches them, boom,
[08:52:23] trying to, kind of, desperately to get away,
[08:52:25] but he gets pulled back in with the chains!
[08:52:28] They are crumbling on the side of Malus, four dead,
[08:52:31] But as the age is still not even claimed and they will now look for Celery, they got him
[08:52:37] man.
[08:52:38] Another 5-Hero team wipe.
[08:52:43] Holy gamer legion, they're doing it, they had to buy so much time until this refresher
[08:52:48] could come online.
[08:52:49] He had to sit on his neutral with the GPM talent, but he's, he finally got it.
[08:52:55] Everything is going their way now, winning all these fights.
[08:52:57] you go straight into the throne with five lasting presence stacks.
[08:53:06] You have three melee cores trying to fight into black hole.
[08:53:20] Damn it, he absurd from SF.
[08:53:22] 500 damage with a negative armor,
[08:53:25] And now a million idolons as well.
[08:53:28] They don't even have to commit the banner.
[08:53:31] No, you don't.
[08:53:31] I mean, they're all dead, right?
[08:53:32] Like, there's no one coming anytime soon to save the banner
[08:53:36] for the tier four push.
[08:53:38] You maybe don't go for megas, though.
[08:53:41] It's a little risky as they respawn.
[08:53:44] Let's see how fast they can do this.
[08:53:45] The last impressions is dangerous.
[08:53:48] But yeah, no spells.
[08:53:49] Yeah, no spells is the big thing.
[08:53:51] Getting mega creeps would be absolutely massive for them,
[08:53:54] and I think with Shadowfiend and these Eidolons, that's an absolute army of these things thanks to his facet, so
[08:54:03] And we'll back away and Mega creep secured 47 minutes
[08:54:09] Gamer Legion have done it
[08:54:12] Good news for mouse. You've already got the Crimson Guard to hold against the mega. Uh-huh
[08:54:17] I'm looking at the timers here. You're one minute away from your refresher combo again on this enigma
[08:54:25] And I feel like I
[08:54:27] Don't want to put a timer on the end of the game, but I'm gonna think they're I think they somewhat coincide
[08:54:35] You won't have an aegis, but he does have satanic now on the shadow fiend so say tannic bkb refresher requiem pretty good
[08:54:44] You just have to stay together if you get scattered mouse still has a lot of burst
[08:54:53] Airplane together, I think they know it like guys just a click together. We've got this I
[08:54:59] Like the wrap round through the bottom side of the base fade
[08:55:02] Has his first black hole up the second one's not gonna be up for about a you know another 20 seconds ish, but that's the surprise
[08:55:10] Yeah, I mean any kill right now is
[08:55:14] pretty massive you have three buybacks I think available on the radiant four buybacks okay so they're saving them
[08:55:21] We're gonna need those extra lives if they get caught
[08:55:29] Trying to play around this tree that's placed earlier
[08:55:33] ages ends we'll just pop that refresher shard into his inventory though or not
[08:55:39] You think the Satanic's more important than the refreshers shard?
[08:55:46] You want to refresh that though, I feel like it has to be the silver edge, like you use
[08:55:49] that to go in and then you swap it.
[08:55:51] Yeah.
[08:55:52] Oh, he just gives it to Ember.
[08:55:53] Okay, actually I like this a lot.
[08:55:54] Ember spear with refresher.
[08:55:55] You didn't miss pace either.
[08:55:59] He could also buy his refresher, he's sitting on like 5000 extra gold from buyback.
[08:56:36] Tana Gamsun needs some help actually. They've committed a little bit too far. He's got no BKB left.
[08:56:42] Three dead on the side of the dire, but they're going to buy back on everything. This is the last
[08:56:46] fight of the game. Wish team is going to be able to come out the victors. We'll see. RCY has that
[08:56:51] refresher. He popped it. He's going to look to try and get some help here, but this team's taking
[08:56:56] a little bit longer to get back in the fight than I think they would have liked, and Chris is still
[08:57:00] very healthy.
[08:57:03] And then just to get the hex here,
[08:57:04] jump in, Timbersaw onto the back line,
[08:57:06] gets a lot of damage out,
[08:57:07] Chrisless goes in just blending the close everywhere
[08:57:10] and they back to him at the control,
[08:57:11] Yamsun, he gets a satanic off of the last second,
[08:57:13] trying to turn it back around with the sliver of HP,
[08:57:17] he does it.
[08:57:19] In comes Boom, once again a blink into this chockroom,
[08:57:22] doing so much work,
[08:57:23] first you are able to dodge this,
[08:57:24] nobody's got no help left, no remnants left
[08:57:26] and Chrisless is coming back into this fight
[08:57:28] if they can get on top of Fade.
[08:57:30] Have they done it? Almost everybody diebacking on the side of the dire, Big Numb.
[08:57:36] Trying desperately to get out of this.
[08:57:38] Jamsen's gonna turn it back around, maybe find the kill here onto the timbersaw.
[08:57:42] The damage is not enough. He has to blink to safety.
[08:57:48] An absolute insane fight here.
[08:57:50] He's taking catapults. Someone needs to get back in there.
[08:57:55] Oh, that's a lot of catapults.
[08:57:57] all the catapults they're all in here okay base survives thanks to the crimson
[08:58:03] guard and the retreat but he really didn't getting a little overconfident
[08:58:09] there he's thinking about sneaking in one or two auto attacks yeah that's fine
[08:58:13] by the little force to me from gamer legion because this is your way you have
[08:58:19] megas you have all the time in the world to wait for cooldowns wait for the
[08:58:23] right fight they send it on the tiny but this is where buybacks come in right
[08:58:28] like get the pay for it but it's the same idea as the ages you respawn after
[08:58:32] they commit all the spells and so you use these refresher black holes but then
[08:58:39] you're out and you kind of see that's where mouse turns the fight it then goes
[08:58:43] for a really long time I would say mouse came out ahead considering how far
[08:58:48] behind they are oh absolutely enough to get the divine rapier on the crystal
[08:58:51] and even when Enigma respawns I guess you will have to refresh her actually I
[08:58:59] mean it's a diviner a pure chrysalis he's he says screw it straight to end the
[08:59:04] game there's no enigma for 30 seconds dude they could very well end the game
[08:59:09] right now it's gonna be very close you need your ember you need your enigma
[08:59:14] the countdown is coming yamsun with the silver edge gonna try maybe find some
[08:59:17] space turns on to middle of a tough from the ad-libs force the DKB hook shot in
[08:59:21] You're going to have to go back
[08:59:23] to the back of the screen. But
[08:59:25] you're bristle back. Protect
[08:59:27] from the prison guard for now.
[08:59:29] And that's the BKB of your
[08:59:31] shadow fiend just spent speeds
[08:59:33] going to die back. It's time.
[08:59:37] That you've spent, though, for
[08:59:39] the enigma to get back into this
[08:59:41] game. He's got double black hole.
[08:59:43] You have everything you need to
[08:59:45] retreat on the side of mouths.
[08:59:47] The question is, can you change
[08:59:49] They need these heroes. The hookshot comes in from Big Nug.
[08:59:52] Crissel, he gets pushed back in to Black Hole and it's gonna be able to find the Bristleback McCann.
[08:59:56] They kill him at time. The Wind Waker was already spent. They got him.
[08:59:59] Now looking for more. Fades second BKB at the right.
[09:00:02] Timbersaw now caught in the Black Hole as well.
[09:00:05] Yamsun will finish the job too dead and Celery tried desperately to get anything out of this fight.
[09:00:11] But it's a costly one.
[09:00:13] They will buy back on two more. You're based still surviving.
[09:00:16] Thanks to the buyback of the Timbersaw, but can they hold I
[09:00:26] Mean you killed the you don't kill the enigma
[09:00:29] Yeah, he got these okay. He used all the ability so at least while he's dead forever
[09:00:33] He's like yeah, I'm just getting my cooldowns back. I think you're getting roast
[09:00:37] I think you're scared at this point because you used a lot of your own buybacks if you slip up on this book
[09:00:43] He's not checking it. Oh
[09:00:45] Oh my gosh, they got the Divine Rapier on the Shadowfiend, right?
[09:00:49] So...
[09:00:55] They should be able to get this.
[09:00:56] It's gonna be so difficult to contest from the side of Maus.
[09:01:01] The damage is getting A on this, which is kind of what he needs,
[09:01:03] but I also kind of think he needs to scale up and damage at this point.
[09:01:06] We gotta go...
[09:01:07] We gotta get some right-click in here, my guy.
[09:01:10] Where does he put these items, by the way?
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[09:01:40] incredible find from RCY that's so good actually okay RCY needs 80 seconds on
[09:01:47] his refresher but I think you're fine without that cuz half the reason you
[09:01:49] need it is because of the Lions crowd control and he's now dead with no buy
[09:01:53] back that's the last respawn big one keeping out running over and they never
[09:01:58] got this he needs to pick up all the shit all just sitting at the fat in
[09:02:04] there still like they yeah they got the gem he's good
[09:02:06] So guys I got it cheese banner on the way lion will be close to respawning but this
[09:02:15] 1200 AoE banner by the way, right? So yeah, it's pretty large
[09:02:18] This is very close to dying on the ancient into like an SF with divine. They have one fort
[09:02:24] 1-4 on the Ember.
[09:02:36] Okay, I mean, this is the final defense. We'll see what they can do.
[09:02:40] They've got to kill this really quickly.
[09:02:43] He's just going for it.
[09:02:44] He's just going to go ahead and finish the job.
[09:02:46] Bortification is out.
[09:02:47] Satanic out from the Amazon to try and turn it around.
[09:02:49] And he's got a full heal from this.
[09:02:50] Fade goes and gets the Black Hole.
[09:02:52] Can you save the ball?
[09:02:54] Here's the Requiem, but yeah the Throne, you got to just finish the game.
[09:02:58] RCY will pop the BKB and try and do a touch.
[09:03:01] It's not enough.
[09:03:03] The damage is there.
[09:03:05] They've done it.
[09:03:06] Game or Legion, close out the game.
[09:03:09] Against Malz, the late game pressure of the Enigma.
[09:03:13] It pays off.
[09:03:17] Malz knew what they needed.
[09:03:18] They needed to keep Fade out of the fight.
[09:03:20] fight so that's why in this fight last fight like boom and mid one are just
[09:03:26] jumping the back trying to cut out the enigma but the positioning is good you
[09:03:32] have so many other supports like the trant the clopper giving vision giving
[09:03:37] space you there's too many moving parts you can't stop the answer you can't
[09:03:42] stop RCY you can't keep fade out they had their timing earlier in the game on
[09:03:46] the game. You know, they're
[09:03:50] playing on the ground. They're
[09:03:52] playing on mouths, but. Gamer
[09:03:54] Legion holds on till they hit
[09:03:56] the critical mass and you just
[09:03:58] can't answer the black hole.
[09:04:00] Yeah at some point. It's a death
[09:04:02] sentence forever gets caught,
[09:04:03] and they did a pretty good job
[09:04:05] of, you know, waiting to see
[09:04:07] the Wind Waker in the late game
[09:04:08] like once mid one had spent the
[09:04:10] Wind Waker. You know, the black
[09:04:12] whole target is dead, and they
[09:04:14] performance from RCY on the Ember, 14-3 and 25.
[09:04:18] We've been talking about this guy, the whole tournament.
[09:04:21] He's crushing it in what seems like almost every game.
[09:04:25] The fact that the Ember spirit was the top net worth,
[09:04:28] multiple different stages, or like second on net worth,
[09:04:31] pretty much the entire game is impressive.
[09:04:36] Yeah, he has been part of making space.
[09:04:41] So with the supports, to be fair,
[09:04:42] I know their kill scores don't look great,
[09:04:43] So that's because they're the ones going out, you know, like, yes, kill me, not my course.
[09:04:47] Please let them farm the refresher.
[09:04:49] So I feel like everyone knew their part in this game, and it came together, which is
[09:04:53] a great sign to see for Gamer Legion.
[09:04:56] It is when they seem to have lost games, it's like, just isn't quite connected.
[09:05:00] They're not on the same page, but I feel like they all knew what they needed to do to win
[09:05:03] this game.
[09:05:04] I think Malz did as well, and they were really close, actually.
[09:05:08] They were really close to winning this game multiple times.
[09:05:10] just being ahead and then they also had a hold they buy the divine they rush it uh and just like
[09:05:16] a few seconds off right like just a little longer and you can finish the game and I actually think
[09:05:21] some of this goes back to the uh the change in 7.4 when you don't have the barracks the tier fours
[09:05:26] get shown as armor and it buys you just enough time so you can't do this kind of desperation push
[09:05:32] on mouths or you can try but it just takes you more time and it it literally made the difference
[09:05:36] this time. Yeah, absolutely a banger of a game. Really fun back and forth in good showing,
[09:05:43] but Gamer Legion come out on top here so they will be happy, you know, put them a little bit
[09:05:48] out of the danger zone, but they've still got one more series later today. But for now, we're going
[09:05:53] to our next series, which is going to be Liquid versus Heroic. So, you know, don't go too far
[09:05:58] anybody. We just got ourselves a short break and we'll be back with more action here on Blastlam 6.
[09:06:02] We'll see you then.
[09:11:32] the
[09:11:39] nonstop action baby that's what you can expect with blast slam and we've got
[09:11:46] another sick series coming up it is a liquid versus heroic we just came off
[09:11:51] the tail end of a almost 60 minute back and forth slug fest between mouse and
[09:11:56] gamer legion, very fun series, but now it's time to change it up, right?
[09:12:02] We're, I mean, kind of similar regions in a way.
[09:12:05] The Americas versus EU coming up once again.
[09:12:07] And with Liquid, I think this, or I guess we'll talk about Heroic first, but with Heroic,
[09:12:13] this is a team that had some massive success last year.
[09:12:17] And then there was like a little bit of a hiccup for the last few months.
[09:12:21] They seem to be doing, you know, they seem to be getting better once again.
[09:12:25] and I really do like this team.
[09:12:27] So we'll see how they fare up against one of the best
[09:12:31] in the world, Liquid.
[09:12:33] Yeah, I think both these teams kind of going through
[09:12:36] some like mixed identity, I guess.
[09:12:40] Liquid, once they change the roster,
[09:12:42] they're kind of stuck together,
[09:12:43] but it does involve Tofu going to position five,
[09:12:46] but then sometimes they swap like where they play.
[09:12:48] Right, there's been like all sorts of like figuring out
[09:12:51] what are we now?
[09:12:53] And I feel like Heroic also had a lot of the same players, but has recently made those changes, Tylong entering very recently.
[09:13:02] So, a little bit more understandable on their part, I suppose, because they were going through such a rough patch, they decided to make these changes.
[09:13:11] And considering how recently he joined, I mean, they're like 5 and 4 right now in these groups, so it's actually a little better than I thought.
[09:13:20] And I'm hopeful as time goes on they do resolve it
[09:13:24] I think the current roster to have with whisper back in the off lane
[09:13:27] Picking up Ty Lung which if you don't know him you probably already heard him talked about at this point
[09:13:32] But he's a very young SA mid showing a lot of promise
[09:13:35] Joining these random stacks and I'd say heroic is now the biggest
[09:13:38] Well, okay, he was on OG when OG pick up that SA roster for a bit, but
[09:13:43] Now on heroic
[09:13:44] I think is one of his like biggest opportunities to show what he's got and I think he's been impressing a lot of people
[09:13:50] Yeah, I mean he's he's been playing through like a series of different events and stuff on Tai Long
[09:13:57] Yeah, they actually had a team called the Tai Long Mafia, which was I think where
[09:14:03] He got the most kind of recognition lately
[09:14:08] Because they were winning qualifiers people like what the heck is going on like who is this random team?
[09:14:13] And he was it's not like it was him with like a bunch of nobodies
[09:14:16] But there was, you know, actual like powerhouse players from South America on his team and they were crushing some of the favorites
[09:14:22] I think they beat heroic actually multiple times. There's Peru rejects that have been
[09:14:27] Popping up in South America as well and they have, you know, they took series of them and they're like, okay
[09:14:31] You know what? Let's let's just take this guy and try him in the roster and
[09:14:37] Got incredible where it's due man for such a young player. He is definitely stepped into some very big shoes
[09:14:43] I think one of the things that sticks out about him to me is that usually for a lot
[09:14:52] of South American teams and players, they have a very like fight heavy play style.
[09:14:57] They like to go, they like to go hard and then heroic when they first set themselves apart,
[09:15:02] I feel like they brought a lot more balance to it.
[09:15:08] You know, like they had the essay aggression, they also knew like, hey, chill, hey, farm,
[09:15:12] right?
[09:15:13] when they looked their best. And when we were catching some of Tylong's games, I felt we actually
[09:15:18] thought there were times a little too safe, right? Even a little too far on that side. But I think
[09:15:24] that's good. Like to find that balance of I bring aggression, but I don't go crazy then throw it away,
[09:15:29] which was one of the things that would often hold a lot of South American teams from fully
[09:15:34] winning the event is they would get a lead, but then give it away. So I think it's a good fit for
[09:15:38] for Ty Lung to join Heroic and as long as the players all, you know, get to know each
[09:15:43] other, figure out the play styles, I could see this roster working out.
[09:15:47] And Fiilcor is a very talented support player.
[09:15:50] Like, he's been around for a long time, one of the best position fours from Brazil, if
[09:15:55] you know, arguably the best, you could, you know, there's a lot of different people.
[09:15:59] But it was, I was a little bit surprised to see him hop onto Heroic just because there's
[09:16:05] So many insane position fours in South America. Um, but I think for the most part, he's been
[09:16:10] jelling pretty good. He's got experience playing with some of these guys in the past as well.
[09:16:15] Right. Tila cord and KJ is, uh, about as classic as it gets from this region. These two.
[09:16:23] So first pick Mars though for heroic, which if this was like a dark Mego team, I'd be
[09:16:28] like, yeah, it's mid Mars, but it's not. Uh, this is a heroic. So I'm not sure if Ty Long
[09:16:34] has any experience on this hero, but Liquid will respond immediately with the Kez for
[09:16:39] Mikkei.
[09:16:40] I think Whisper Mars is pretty exceptional, I think it'd be fine to leave it there, but
[09:16:46] Tylong does play some weird stuff in that mid lane, so we'll see if they decide to do
[09:16:51] that flex.
[09:16:52] Kez, Mikkei Kez, classic.
[09:16:55] I think it's also solid into Mars, because usually what Mars does, even in bad matchups,
[09:16:59] is, I will just push you away.
[09:17:01] like stop chasing me, but Kez has multiple tools
[09:17:05] to get back into the fight.
[09:17:07] The arena will be annoying later on,
[09:17:08] but at least for the lane, you are, you're fine.
[09:17:18] Let's see where they go with the bands here.
[09:17:19] They get rid of the Slardar and the puck.
[09:17:23] Okay.
[09:17:26] I mean, Chibi Garlicia has been crushing it
[09:17:28] on the puck lately.
[09:17:29] Yeah, that's one of his best heroes for sure.
[09:17:34] Kez, I think banning Shattered Demon if you don't plan to take it on Liquid could be good.
[09:17:39] It's a very strong combo with the Mars in the lane, but I also think that hero is very annoying
[09:17:44] for Kez because like you're trying to do these different combos and people, you're being disrupted,
[09:17:48] you're being demonic purged.
[09:17:50] I feel like when you go in, you need to get your job done and Shattered Demon is one of
[09:17:54] the better supports at messing that up if you want a strong pairing yourself
[09:18:02] actually a lot of supports are still in so like yeah hero that's what I was gonna
[09:18:07] say I think with the bad band they're looking for jikiro here potentially it's
[09:18:13] also just something Yuma really likes to play but jikiro has to be a consideration
[09:18:17] if you're not looking at like picking up the tusk for liquid which is like
[09:18:22] Arguably one of the best tusk teams in the world because they can play at four and five extremely well
[09:18:28] Ember out of the game. Whoa
[09:18:32] Okay, I mean with these bands like really what's the dude what about right hear me out
[09:18:39] Largo and jacquero
[09:18:43] Could be good, I think snipers also consideration for
[09:18:46] heroic it's something Tylon likes to play and it's one of the few counterpits left in the pool first the
[09:18:52] The ember and then if you do go for that support duo you just mentioned
[09:18:56] It's very much like a protect sniper, you know like let sniper hit and when they come to get him stop them
[09:19:01] You got the arena to protect him
[09:19:04] Largo sitting behind boosting him up to Kiro just ice path on top right I'd be up for it
[09:19:10] If you don't want to go sniper, that's okay
[09:19:12] You can pick like whatever else, but there's not a lot of flex on the ember so I think revealing your mid fairly early would be fine
[09:19:18] Beastmaster for Tylong. KJ Chen, is that a possibility now?
[09:19:23] So fast at that lineup. That's what I'm wondering, right? Like he's a good Chen player
[09:19:34] There's no with this coming out
[09:19:35] I think you if you don't take shadow demon here
[09:19:37] I think liquid should consider it because then you just you try to roar somebody and you just get saved with the disruption
[09:19:44] It's a lot of I
[09:19:46] Think it's even better now. Wow. Largo and shattered even looking good
[09:19:50] I
[09:19:52] Mean you'd always have to worry about blood sport with the Mars right like even though you have a shadow demon
[09:19:57] Who can get some vision inside of the arena?
[09:20:00] It does make it difficult that split second of not having vision could get a kill
[09:20:07] Otherwise, if that's the case, if they do, if they don't want to go Blood Support, you
[09:20:11] can just go Victory Feast and just play for, instead of pick off just all in, like Arena
[09:20:15] has many heroes as possible, and try and just get the first kill that they can.
[09:20:20] Because the Victory Feast is a huge turning point in a fight if you get a kill.
[09:20:26] I think you still consider J'Kiro because Heroic could go for Chen, which would be a
[09:20:30] crazy fast pace with the heroes they've got.
[09:20:33] Whatever supports you end up picking up have to be pretty strong early on
[09:20:37] Kez decent lane, but then you need to farm up for a while
[09:20:40] So you can't really depend on him to join fights too much the supports have to be okay working with the ember
[09:20:47] Dude, how often do we see four core picks as the opener?
[09:20:51] Should happen more often right like we never see this
[09:20:55] Let us counter pick
[09:20:57] Counter-fix that's wild unless we're cooking something real interesting here, but warlock good counter push good synergy
[09:21:06] With kez lots of aoe damage with the ember as well
[09:21:09] Can help sustain the lane against skyrath mage
[09:21:12] Hmm. I like it in the arena. Just drop the golem in there. Yeah
[09:21:19] It's a really good response actually this salvages kez
[09:21:23] quite a bit
[09:21:25] Yeah, I think it pairs well with the ember as well because you just shadow word the ember and he gets even more a oe
[09:21:30] Damage around him. Yeah, and you fatal bonds to reflect that everywhere
[09:21:34] And we do get some kind of save if not the shadow demon then you get the tusk who can snowball save the exact same way
[09:21:41] It's maybe a little trickier, but you know to grab more people in it. So some pros some cons
[09:21:46] And I will say the benefit to it is that he's got more early aggression early roaming than a shadow demon
[09:21:55] I think it's a lot of options.
[09:22:05] Debating, like, you know, what
[09:22:07] heroic want to do here?
[09:22:09] Because I could you pick a
[09:22:11] Chen?
[09:22:13] The thing is, if you pick Chen,
[09:22:15] it limits your carry pool,
[09:22:17] probably a decent amount.
[09:22:19] You're looking at something like a
[09:22:21] dragon knight, which Yuma does like
[09:22:23] I'm sure it would get banned
[09:22:25] Real quick any cheese options here Yuma does like Mipo. I think this draft is
[09:22:31] So dead though like that hero got nerfed earlier. I think I'm pretty sure he played one already
[09:22:36] Yeah, I'm not saying he can't but Ember spirits like one of the worst
[09:22:41] Like heroes to play against his Mipo
[09:22:44] Because he's a natural vessel builder
[09:22:46] So you're like Agam scepter gets like pretty easily dealt with you do have like the ensnares of course for Ember spirit
[09:22:53] but he has a lot of damage in fights.
[09:23:00] Ursa is one of the better ones versus Kez.
[09:23:03] Yeah, I was wondering if you just pick the Ursa
[09:23:05] and ban out some of the bad offlaners for it, because
[09:23:10] there's only certain matchups
[09:23:12] Kez like like doesn't want to play into.
[09:23:14] And it's kind of just Ursa Dragon Knight that I can think of.
[09:23:21] I think that's probably what they're debating
[09:23:22] If you've seen Yuma talk several times here, so they're probably deciding
[09:23:27] Do you pick the carry right now?
[09:23:33] What other hero could they pick and they go with the troll man, I was just about to say troll and weaver are also options
[09:23:41] So they go for the troll warlord
[09:23:43] Which means KJ will have the last pick
[09:23:47] Should be huge
[09:23:49] In terms of offlaners, the troll probably doesn't want to deal with. He probably just
[09:23:54] get rid of Darkseer here. There's already a tusk on the board. It brings great auras
[09:23:58] to their team and we've already seen what can happen if Troll gets caught inside of
[09:24:02] a Darkseer wall.
[09:24:05] Brewmaster also a very good one. And there's also Axe. Axe is really, really dangerous
[09:24:12] for a troll. I just don't know if you have like the real heroes to follow up the axe
[09:24:19] initiation. You could maybe preemptively counter some of these. You could do like undying and
[09:24:25] then all of these melee offlaners are suddenly a lot less desirable. I feel like the-
[09:24:35] Well, I guess-
[09:24:36] I mean does undying do anything to Darkseer though?
[09:24:38] well you ban that one and then you take it yeah yeah yeah yeah acts and all those
[09:24:44] don't really they can kind of get by I mean you're already mentally prepared to
[09:24:49] have to creep drag in that lane so that's the downside of the undying crap I
[09:24:53] forgot your way to make sure troll has a good game
[09:24:58] oh jacquero could have done it too yeah you're right yeah I forgot jacquero was
[09:25:01] even in the pool I would have been a no-brainer maybe you still banned Chen
[09:25:07] as well actually yeah I mean troll is such a strong lane hero that if you give them something
[09:25:14] like a chin and he's able to just sit in his tower okay how about that Largo it's actually
[09:25:23] a pretty good Largo game yeah there's the axe band I think axe legitimately is the one
[09:25:28] that you might be most scared of because if you want to go for the Largo you can dispel the eye on show
[09:25:37] He's telling him, do you know what KJ stands for?
[09:25:42] Stands for King Jalargo.
[09:25:44] Do it.
[09:25:45] Lock it in.
[09:25:46] That's what it sounds like.
[09:25:54] Getting a nice little view of the coach of heroic here, Cass.
[09:25:58] I'm a big fan of this guy.
[09:25:59] He's been in the scene for so freaking long.
[09:26:01] He's been back when EG was a South American horror.
[09:26:06] He was the coach for EG and then took over as coach of heroic with a lot of the same
[09:26:12] players immediately following.
[09:26:13] So he's been playing with these guys for a long time.
[09:26:16] And a lot of people have respect for him as well in the scene as a coach.
[09:26:25] Final band from Liquid.
[09:26:26] The more respect when he locks in the Largo.
[09:26:28] The Largo, but...
[09:26:30] Ancient apparition.
[09:26:31] Interesting.
[09:26:32] They're gonna Largo?
[09:26:33] I was like there's no Huskar available, right?
[09:26:36] Like I immediately look for the Huskar fan.
[09:26:38] I was like, pretty sure that one got banned.
[09:26:40] All right, all right.
[09:26:42] I mean, to be fair, roar into Ice Blast.
[09:26:46] There's a lot of options.
[09:26:47] Simple, Shadow Demon.
[09:26:51] Why not?
[09:26:52] Not as strong of a laner as I thought they would go for,
[09:26:55] but a lot of utility to help fill in the gaps.
[09:26:59] And then the Underlord.
[09:27:00] This one's straightforward.
[09:27:01] earlier the the aura builder in the offline I think the underlord is the
[09:27:05] obvious one I thought maybe they would pick something different into troll but
[09:27:09] with shadow demon it's a little bit rough picking the dark seer because your
[09:27:14] demonic purge just locks down you know any hope of surging in and out of these
[09:27:19] fights yeah I think it wouldn't it would have been annoying to start for the
[09:27:25] troll but then like troll eventually picks up an ag and then like you just
[09:27:28] care as much anymore so if your early game is not going to be good thanks to something like
[09:27:33] Shadow Demon, I think it's not quite worth it. I think the Underlord has also proven to be one
[09:27:36] of the better heroes of the tournament. The, I guess it's not that different from like previous
[09:27:42] reasons this hero's been good. It's like he can build all the auras which are strong right now,
[09:27:46] he's got the global presence. We've just seen it put into really good effect this tournament and
[09:27:53] it's a it's an ace classic so yeah I'm actually a little surprised not to see
[09:27:56] liquid like I thought it would be like one of their top prioritized heroes they
[09:28:03] have been moving towards it a little bit more maybe figuring out their identity
[09:28:07] once again like ah he is still an underlord player let's keep doing it but
[09:28:11] it's back here it is yeah I just really like the kind of order in which the
[09:28:18] draft happened it's just such an interesting idea right you don't really
[09:28:22] see this very often but we get the first pick Mars into the Kez response and
[09:28:30] Ember into Beastmaster. It's cool stuff. Ty Long has had some pretty solid
[09:28:35] performances on the Beastmaster I think overall in the mid lane this should be
[09:28:38] pretty good for him versus the Ember spirit. The Bors are not something
[09:28:42] Ember really ever can get his hands on so you're gonna be taking just chip
[09:28:46] damage constantly from these and your Flameguard can be dealt with by the
[09:28:51] Axe spam. B-Smasher also has decent base attack time and attack animation, so it's a fairly
[09:28:58] good lane. But we'll see what happens as we jump into this series of liquid versus heroic.
[09:29:04] We'll see which team's gonna come out ahead, but what's your prediction, Zach? Which draft do you
[09:29:10] like the most? I like this Underlord pick a lot. I think it completes what they need.
[09:29:21] I I think heroic I can see their lineup working out really well, but if one of the lanes falters especially whispers lane I
[09:29:31] Think life gets tough because you have to get this eggs on the Beastmaster
[09:29:34] You know and then the supports are like can we play together and then whisper if he's having a bad time
[09:29:39] And he can't just blink stun people like where do you go? You know it's not your troll
[09:29:43] He's farming so that's my concern for heroic, but if they get through the lanes and fortunately whispers a fantastic laner should be
[09:29:51] should be fine. Get the ball rolling. High tempo gameplay.
[09:29:59] Nice little board place on the top side of the river here.
[09:30:02] Not one we see all that often, but really good scouting rotations.
[09:30:05] And you do see, you know, as a tusk on one side.
[09:30:09] Underlord kind of wants to be left alone.
[09:30:11] Like maybe they'll play some.
[09:30:13] Back and forth, you know, like with the tag team in the pit of mouths and stuff.
[09:30:17] But underlord really needs to get to like level four before you're going to be
[09:30:20] seeing you know pit of Malus plays really coming through. So those early
[09:30:27] water runes can definitely sway the tempo of the mid game but a really
[09:30:33] aggressive ward also plays from Boxy. Nice disruption there from KJ baits out
[09:30:42] the shards we'll just juke the other way instead which they will get some decent
[09:30:48] chip damage into him here. That's about half his health actually, a little bit annoying,
[09:31:00] especially now that you can't share it. Boxer give me tangos, can't do that anymore so you
[09:31:04] are going to have to wait and maybe be careful because Skyrat is still here. Yeah they want
[09:31:09] something but maybe just going to throw some damage into Boxy instead as the Skyrat will
[09:31:15] eventually head his way to the bottom lane. He being out now is they're starting to pressure
[09:31:18] the Mars they know he's alone. It's a great start for the top lane though zoning out ace
[09:31:31] and boxy like that and now kj trying to mess with the creep drag but boxy still manages to get it
[09:31:37] off for now didn't want to have to tango because he already had one running but he's gonna die if
[09:31:43] if he doesn't get going.
[09:31:44] I'll actually re-agger the way I tested, though.
[09:31:46] Yeah.
[09:31:47] Yuma pulls it back in, and Boxing, I just keep dead here.
[09:31:50] And this could be our easy first plug for Yuma on the troll.
[09:31:53] A fantastic start to his lane.
[09:31:59] Yeah, Yuma.
[09:32:00] Oh, Warlord is one of those heroes that can really take over
[09:32:05] a game if he gets ahead.
[09:32:06] I mean, it's only the first kill, but it will eventually
[09:32:10] add up.
[09:32:11] Bottom lane, though.
[09:32:11] Tofu gets a return of his own taking down Thelacore.
[09:32:17] Skyrath is a very annoying hero with harass but zero armor into a hero like Kez can be quite scary.
[09:32:25] Let me see that. Bring a lot of damage to finish the job there along with the warlock of course.
[09:32:30] Warlock hit this old Yuma loses his boots and a tango on the career. That's a really big one that first blood gold now
[09:32:46] doesn't really matter
[09:32:48] The KJ's career, okay
[09:32:51] Boxie just won the top lane massacre up there
[09:33:00] That's nuts. That's actually such a massive find from him
[09:33:10] They aren't managing to creep drag well though, I will say
[09:33:14] To all focused on that niche
[09:33:17] As you say, I don't think he gets away right does he he's gonna continue to chase does get the flame guard but
[09:33:23] Doesn't matter Tylung just walks him down. He tried to make his way to the water room, but
[09:33:27] But that's the match we were talking about, the boar slow is substantial.
[09:33:32] Also, what was the bird doing?
[09:33:33] It didn't dive bomb the hero once, it just sat there flying around, he's like, you need
[09:33:39] my help at all.
[09:33:40] Check the bird down.
[09:33:41] So little kill for him, he's also got a lot of denies, some of those are denying his
[09:33:47] own boar, but certainly not all of those, so a great start for Tylong.
[09:33:52] This means Nisha is very unlikely to hit level 6 before the power runes, which means
[09:33:57] you can also secure those. And Ember is the playmaker for his team in the same way I highlighted
[09:34:03] Whisper. Ember, he's the one you need to be able to do things. At least he is not blink
[09:34:09] reliant, so even off of being solo killed, you're just still okay. Heroic, Tylong running
[09:34:14] him down again actually here. Really bullying Nisha.
[09:34:19] Dang
[09:34:22] Hop lane KJ he's gonna get caught out nice fine there from boxy and ace
[09:34:29] Stabilized on it. I cannot stress enough how much those double career kills help like change this lane
[09:34:34] I legitimately don't think the shadow deepen would be dead right now if it wasn't for those couriers
[09:34:39] They can add up a lot if they haven't delivered the items, like you said.
[09:34:46] All the money you earn doesn't really mean much.
[09:34:49] They really want Nisha.
[09:34:54] The Axes, yeah.
[09:34:55] He'll have to pop the Flameguard there.
[09:34:57] He's got a ton of stacks of these already on top of them.
[09:35:00] It means no water room for him.
[09:35:04] And Ember Spirit is playing.
[09:35:05] Got a whole lot of options right now.
[09:35:08] He's going to jump back in, chains are out, but Tylong now turning his attention over to
[09:35:12] if he doesn't quite get the slow with the bore, but does summon the Hawk.
[09:35:16] Boxie's coming over.
[09:35:19] I mean, you might have extended a little bit too far.
[09:35:21] Yeah, with the notice that Boxie's on his way, Tylong will consider backing.
[09:35:29] Kind of far.
[09:35:29] Maybe in TB Closer you can do that, though.
[09:35:31] I don't actually know how much you want to push on the Beastmaster when Nisha is struggling.
[09:35:36] I don't think you bring enough damage. All this attention though mid does mean that whispers being left alone on his own and Mickey able to push him out of there
[09:35:47] Mickey doing well for as much as we were highlighting everything troll, you know, he had such a good start
[09:35:53] Mickey climbing up that CS ladder. Yuma is potentially dead here. I don't think he makes it out of this one
[09:35:59] There's even the firestorm that
[09:36:01] Ice Shards to block him in and Ace will find himself another kill in this top lane, having a great time now, Nisha mid, in some trouble here once again, Tylong not quite level 6, but
[09:36:10] for the Blood Grenade, no Flameguard left. He should be able to finish the job. That's a huge stick save. Tylong, oh, he's 17 HP.
[09:36:21] He needs to run as the power rune's coming. That being said, Tylong did get Primal Roar, throws some axes, does chip boxy down with it.
[09:36:30] But if he gets a regen rune here, I'm gonna open a serious inquiry with Gabe.
[09:36:35] Okay, it's an illusion rune bottom.
[09:36:38] See if you can get it.
[09:36:41] I mean he's gonna get it.
[09:36:43] And an illusion is actually quite good for him.
[09:36:46] Okay, well now it doesn't matter.
[09:36:49] He just pops it immediately.
[09:36:52] They're not stopping with the aggression the silence is there Nisha's dead again disruption now finds the warlock but
[09:37:04] We're trying to body track all these illusions. Yeah, they don't need to really contest too much more
[09:37:11] This has been a beat down in mid. They have sent a message to Nisha and it has very much been received
[09:37:17] this is the benefit of ember though right you just need to slow things down
[09:37:24] get six and you can start bouncing back yeah but you need to do that like what's
[09:37:28] got a slow slow things down a little here
[09:37:32] just secure your own way of trying you might do not even try doing he thought
[09:37:38] about it but yeah not not not worth going to
[09:37:48] You mom soon be going battlefield this game, right?
[09:37:52] That's a cute up at least for now. Okay, Kez doing the same down bottom also lost his career apparently
[09:38:00] What are we at this game five career days? I don't know a lot
[09:38:17] the corner copia being double does six what is it ember is still not level six
[09:38:27] as we get to the eight-minute power in oh my gosh yeah I mean they they put the
[09:38:33] warlock made to try and soak some XP after what was going on the power rune
[09:38:36] spawns bottom I think it's a shield room yeah so I will say for ember's sake some
[09:38:43] of the more dangerous runes that they could have gotten on Heroic have not spawned, but
[09:38:49] now you're playing into a shielder and I don't think you're gonna have any chance of killing
[09:38:52] this Beastmaster.
[09:38:53] I don't know if you had much chance anyways.
[09:38:55] Good work there from Tofu.
[09:38:57] Scouting KJ.
[09:38:58] They're gonna bring in some TPs.
[09:38:59] He pops the golem immediately onto the two supports KJ.
[09:39:03] We'll go and disrupt the Skyrath mage to try and get him some space to escape, but now
[09:39:07] Ace making the rotation and Delacour should burn here.
[09:39:10] fire storm to find the kill and they will finally look to dive actually tie
[09:39:15] long behind the tower does have the shield and pops the roar but stuck as
[09:39:19] the full team surrounds him and liquid getting a very sweet revenge that is
[09:39:27] what a kill play with the green war bring everybody in the underlord ult but
[09:39:33] even Mickey just heading over early he just had to get to just walk on over
[09:39:38] here but gets to contribute you don't get that Beastmaster kill without him and
[09:39:41] that is that's the key kill to get because of how well he was doing and you
[09:39:47] then finish up the tower all in one go lose a little bit of tower damage for
[09:39:51] it but he makes it back for most of the CS. It's a great rotation. That grimoire has
[09:39:57] point stealing stacks too. It's so value. That grimoire is essentially like
[09:40:02] three thousand gold like that is an unbelievable use of the grimoire for
[09:40:08] tofu
[09:40:15] ember still behind after all that but his team is now gonna feel a bit more
[09:40:22] comfortable and all he really needs to do is slide a fish chains I'm surprised
[09:40:29] we didn't see like a teepee into the mid lane from whisper but once both
[09:40:31] Both supports were dead, maybe you just don't feel like you have the damage, especially into
[09:40:36] like the Underlord and stuff, oh yeah that's very possible.
[09:40:40] He just wasn't expecting, Heroic was not expecting to need to bring that many heroes
[09:40:47] mid, they thought they were like oh yeah we're just continuing to bully Ember, you know
[09:40:49] we just need support and roar, but Alun Liquid's ready to move the whole team and that's the
[09:40:55] value of the global Underlord.
[09:40:57] Now they play around it extremely well.
[09:41:09] Bottom lane, bunch of heroes grouping up.
[09:41:13] Boxy hiding behind the trees.
[09:41:15] Spears down means Whisper might be in trouble here.
[09:41:17] It does get the pushback, but the tag team into the kez damage.
[09:41:21] It is a lot and I don't think he's making it out of this one.
[09:41:24] Plots the Ravensville for a safe measure
[09:41:30] It's pretty tanky it took a lot of kill them, but there's no real hope of getting out of there
[09:41:37] And there's a reason liquid feel very comfortable picking mckays
[09:41:42] You know kez early in the draft especially if he knows it's a good lane matchup like he is crushing it this game
[09:41:48] This is a catapult wave here too. So this is a dead tower. I did not see how you hold this
[09:41:54] Hula!
[09:41:56] Probably was about to drop that.
[09:41:58] Just creating a beat is like, dang, can't play Largo this game.
[09:42:00] Like my own song.
[09:42:03] No stacks, just, well actually there is an ancient stack if you want to go for that.
[09:42:14] Okay, yeah, I'm gonna grab it.
[09:42:20] Why not?
[09:42:21] You're already in the area.
[09:42:22] You've got to go all them so they don't really want to fight into you.
[09:42:24] You do have ults available on the cores, but the supports are struggling on the side of Heroic.
[09:42:30] So no Skyrath ult, no Demonic Purge. Those will be huge in the fights, but 12 minutes and still don't have either of them.
[09:42:43] Yeah, that big fight mid gave them so much experience in Gold to play around.
[09:42:46] Tylong, about a thousand gold away from his Aghanim Scepter, but they are hunting him with the whole squad.
[09:42:51] Tylong, they get double-piled in the tower. There's the Ravensville that comes through. Fatal Bonds, Roar, Golem, everything.
[09:43:00] Another kill onto the Beastmaster and the Ember with his hasteroon.
[09:43:04] Gonna continue to chase for more. The Syrian chains plus the Firestorm. More than enough damage to find themselves a second kill.
[09:43:12] And Liquid now turning up the pressure here at 2,000 gold advantage. 9 to 5 after...
[09:43:18] Well, it was a rough start in mid, but they have done so well at recovering his game now level 9
[09:43:31] Well, they have tofu teepee back to unblock the camp so it can spawn
[09:43:37] I mean he hasn't
[09:43:39] decently timed spirit vessel on the ember spirit they
[09:43:43] Sometimes you see embers go for like the they're like completed trads or whatever boots
[09:43:47] they want to go for and then then into the spirit vessel so he just has brown boots
[09:43:51] but the vessel being online is a pretty big deal
[09:43:56] yeah in hindsight the initial kills on ember were great but beastmaster just not a hero who
[09:44:04] really spends that money in a way that lets him keep pressuring because he needs to go for the
[09:44:08] eggs right so i think at that point you let it go you know that ember can't really make plays
[09:44:14] at least not on Beastmaster, so you leave Beastmaster to just farm and stack,
[09:44:17] and you have to go back to Whisper.
[09:44:19] Now, you overcommitted mid, so your support's ended up low level,
[09:44:22] and then you're the one who needs to take over the playmaking, Whisper,
[09:44:26] still doesn't have his blink dagger, because he's actually bottom net worth of the cores.
[09:44:31] Oh, KJ was trying to make a sneaky play for the Wisdom Shrine, but not making it out of this one.
[09:44:40] Good TP in from Boxy to punish it.
[09:44:44] What's Yuma doing? He had a great start and then one of the deaths set him back. Looks
[09:44:51] like he's at least on par with Mickey. Supports do have their level sixes on heroic. I think
[09:45:00] they were trying to find something, but you can't kill Ember in time, so.
[09:45:06] Those double courier kills on the top lane legitimately hurt them so much, because it
[09:45:11] It led to a death on KJ, but it also meant that his boots were delayed like a minute
[09:45:15] and a half, which he got from his first blood gold, and then you couldn't really pressure
[09:45:21] the Tusk Underlord as much, right?
[09:45:24] Those types of things do snowball quite a bit.
[09:45:26] It's Master X. Spike to setback that is still a pretty free kill.
[09:45:40] Dude, Ace is so farmed.
[09:45:47] 293 bonus damage, by the way.
[09:45:50] There's a lot of bonus damage.
[09:45:52] It's going to use it to finish up the last outer tower, so now establishing a lot of
[09:45:57] map control for the side of Liquid, which a global hero like Underlord loves to have.
[09:46:02] Now you can play anywhere you want and show up to wherever your Ember and your supports
[09:46:06] decide to make the plays.
[09:46:08] I think they need a Yule's on the Mars.
[09:46:11] What's Whisper building this game?
[09:46:12] You need a lot of things on this Mars.
[09:46:14] Yeah.
[09:46:15] Track of the Underlord, tankiest hero though.
[09:46:20] Crimson Guard is great, but the pipe not available means you might be able to burst them down with the help of the Skyrath
[09:46:28] They saw the heroes come through the twin gate, they know this one's done. They don't want to they don't want to fight them 5v5
[09:46:36] 5,000 gold advantage now for liquid
[09:46:50] Blink on Toss, he's going to be really fast, he's rushing it, Brownboot straight to Blink.
[09:46:59] And here's the saves.
[09:47:02] We mentioned the Mystic Flay, I don't think it can get Underlord, but you can get other
[09:47:04] people, Roar can get people, but now just the Blink Snowball is going to come in and
[09:47:08] save all your teammates.
[09:47:11] The window is rapidly closing for Heroic.
[09:47:14] So good to start
[09:47:20] And they're just playing so comfortable in the enemy jungle right now knowing that heroic does not have a lot of avenues to really
[09:47:28] protest this
[09:47:33] And underlord knowing he can join the fight at any time
[09:47:38] If you're heroic you want to stall the Roche on I think
[09:47:41] until it's on the bottom side of the map. I don't think you really want to try and
[09:47:45] fight at topside with how little vision you have there. But Tormentor is a whole
[09:47:49] other thing. Like you cannot afford to just lose the Tormentor freely to
[09:47:53] Liquid as they have some really good shards this game.
[09:48:00] Hoping someone walks up, but Nisha playing smart. I've been killed mid lane
[09:48:06] enough times. I will not fall a fourth time.
[09:48:11] Good D-word there from Thelacore. It's a very important ward to take away.
[09:48:17] Unfortunately for Heroic they walk straight through a ward so you shouldn't
[09:48:21] really lose anything. In fact it's a bait. Golem everything comes out. Whisper
[09:48:25] unable to get the ultimate off. He gets silenced up. Now the crypt put a really
[09:48:30] Good disruption. Can they turn this? No, they'll let Whisper go as Nisha jumps searching for more will not find it
[09:48:38] The TP out immediately from the troll. He's going to the other side of the map to farm
[09:48:44] And you can't fight if you lose your Mars and you can't blink stun you just have no way to take the fight
[09:48:49] Even if you walk in and roar you might get one kill but liquid will turn the fight after that especially now that's the
[09:48:55] the blink dagger just around the corner. He has the money.
[09:49:03] He can mid here potentially before he gets the blink.
[09:49:06] Yeah, they got him. Mystic Flare Roar. We'll take him down so.
[09:49:09] And like you said, no blink, but...
[09:49:13] You get the tier two top.
[09:49:15] First time that combo comes out really though, and it's 18 minutes.
[09:49:19] Yeah.
[09:49:20] That's supposed to be the 8th time the Mystic Flare has killed somebody.
[09:49:32] Man Kez is really pulling away right now in terms of that worth.
[09:49:36] Like you got the Valkyrie, almost the BKB, but Kez almost to his Mantis.
[09:49:40] I think it's being delivered right now.
[09:49:42] We'll go back for the BKB.
[09:49:43] Yeah, so there's his Manta
[09:49:45] of
[09:50:10] copy with the illusions.
[09:50:12] Guess you're not gonna copy with illusions
[09:50:13] as you get killed here by Boxie's blink reveal.
[09:50:17] Should set them up for a pretty easy tormentor
[09:50:19] in about 20 seconds.
[09:50:22] Yeah, that's a nice play.
[09:50:25] Again, they've done an amazing job on Liquid,
[09:50:27] just controlling this whole top side of the map.
[09:50:29] They did lose their one ward
[09:50:30] that was played pretty deep, but
[09:50:34] Whisper gonna just sit here,
[09:50:36] maybe cut the next wave and then look for the wisdom shrine,
[09:50:39] but I think the moment he shows, he's going to probably just TP.
[09:50:43] Oh!
[09:50:44] Oh, no.
[09:50:45] No.
[09:50:46] Yeah, there's the blink TP.
[09:50:47] Shard will go to tofu.
[09:50:49] That's a great one to get.
[09:50:54] Pushing their advantage.
[09:50:55] Now 8,000 gold, liquid, feeling very comfortable in the driver's seat
[09:50:59] this game.
[09:51:00] Shard would have been a little better on Boxy to help control up this Troll Warlord, even
[09:51:14] into the BKB, right?
[09:51:15] You just gotta have to run around these longer Ice Shards.
[09:51:18] But as long as you're getting it, that's fine, because now Demonic Cleanse has to be, like,
[09:51:24] You wanted that for free.
[09:51:25] You wanted the Skyrath shard for free, speed of his farm.
[09:51:29] Just get a gun to Mars as well, actually, if you had to buy a zone.
[09:51:38] Liquid, they had to fight back into this, but now that they have the lead again, I don't
[09:51:50] think they're actually pressured to do much.
[09:51:52] No, they're getting all the tools they need. I think they just want the BKB on Kez 18 BKB get ages
[09:51:59] You're super strong around that point
[09:52:02] and you still have this underlord that is
[09:52:05] Picking up pretty much every order you can imagine tofu is gonna grab the guardian greaves eventually
[09:52:09] but you have Crimson Guard pipe done and the agonist scepter is really that
[09:52:14] Kind of teamfight winning
[09:52:16] ultimate where anytime you tried to
[09:52:18] to take an engagement there's just an instant pit of malice to lock people in
[09:52:23] place it's 500 gold away from being done yeah should get it with this creep
[09:52:32] wave being pushed into a safe lane
[09:52:36] JJ is sending illusions to chip down tier ones I didn't you do need to do that
[09:52:41] because you need to be able to cut waves so you got to take up these towers
[09:52:44] That's true. That is just so sad. 20 damage at a time for disruption.
[09:52:56] We've come to more.
[09:53:01] How low is that tower? Is it close to dying at all or not really?
[09:53:05] Oh, but a measly 300 and 49 health to go.
[09:53:09] At the current rate, I believe that will be approximately 12 disruptions.
[09:53:13] Oh, they got Whisper.
[09:53:17] I mean, trying to backpedal out of here, but there is no real escape.
[09:53:21] The Kez comes in to secure this one.
[09:53:25] So take the fiendscape bottom.
[09:53:27] They are going to try and punish this.
[09:53:29] KJ, demonic purge on Tanisha.
[09:53:34] Oh, no, he actually used him.
[09:53:35] Oh, he's using him.
[09:53:36] Oh, he actually used him.
[09:53:36] Yeah.
[09:53:37] good attempt there but honestly I really like seeing this I think it's so funny
[09:53:45] he's trying to prioritize this tower but I think it's actually true look he's
[09:53:49] even sending the illusion now like ember illusions do it for me get this
[09:53:53] tower down it was like 500 health before he came down here it's down to 93
[09:54:00] I'll get a lot of liquid heroes here like it's not bad space making and it's an
[09:54:06] important tower to get well make a work on roshan uses mantis style to try and
[09:54:14] tank a lot of the damage and this should be eventually going the way up lick it I
[09:54:21] don't think the side of hero really have any ability to contest this especially
[09:54:25] now the arguments up there is done on ace ages will go into the pockets of the
[09:54:32] where do you think he puts his where do you think his pockets are he's wearing
[09:54:37] like a tunic and stuff right I'm sure there's a pocket somewhere in there
[09:54:46] doesn't just tuck it under his weld with a power tray yeah maybe something like
[09:54:51] that all right bottom lane this is about as good of an
[09:55:01] opportunities you're going to get. Blink, Spear, they do manage to hold the
[09:55:05] underlord down. Yuma's going to pop the ult and just get to work, but this
[09:55:08] Crimson Guard takes a while. They will finish the job. Mikkei with his BKB
[09:55:13] managed to take down the shadow team of the rest of the teams coming in through
[09:55:16] that twin gate, through the fiends gate. Now, can they actually sustain this fight?
[09:55:20] Whisper's just getting shredded by Mikkei. There's going to be the roar, but he has
[09:55:25] an Aegis. It's just trying to try and escape, but they will still lose the Mars
[09:55:29] and the Embers spear is going to continue to take us out of the back line, Tofu with him as well.
[09:55:33] Boxie a very aggressive link forward, sets up a grappling claw from them, and they will find a second kill.
[09:55:44] Liquid not afraid to take these fights at all.
[09:55:48] You said that this is pretty much the best chance you can get, Liquid playing a bit greedy across the map from each other,
[09:55:54] rather than together, because they know they'll have the fiend's gate.
[09:55:56] But it does mean it takes a while for the rest of the team to show up.
[09:55:59] They have such a lead and Underlord is so tanky though that entire time difference is
[09:56:04] just whack, whack, whack.
[09:56:06] Please get through this crimson guard, get through this pipe, right?
[09:56:09] Like it just, he absorbs so much damage from the enemy team that the rest of the liquid
[09:56:15] can show up, drop the spells, easy fight from there.
[09:56:19] There is a world where Heroic layers their spells to where the fiends gate doesn't get
[09:56:25] cast legitimate like they could have actually potentially killed the
[09:56:28] underlord like stunned him up into a follow-up silence from the sky rap and
[09:56:33] then he doesn't get the fiends gate his team in and if that happens yeah from
[09:56:39] a he's he like dropped it right away but I now that you point out I do think it
[09:56:44] was a slight delay when Mars jumped in oh absolutely stunned which yeah could
[09:56:49] have made it oh that's a dangerous place to be Yuma just caught out by a so of
[09:56:55] Of course, not really wanting to pop the BKB immediately, but we'll die for it.
[09:57:12] Yeah, I think he wanted to go for the double stun angle and then realized like, it just wasn't gonna happen, so he spears the Underlord instead.
[09:57:18] Oh, Ember spirit.
[09:57:19] Oh, he has an illusion rune to get out of the silence and now TP out from the Mars.
[09:57:25] Final tier 2 tower in the mid lane will crumble as Liquid continue to pressure Heroic, forcing
[09:57:34] him back into the base.
[09:57:38] Sphere back, off the mark, Midgage pops the BKB, copping the demonic purge though, he's
[09:57:43] in pretty deep.
[09:57:44] The question is, can they do anything about this?
[09:57:47] There's gonna be the Mars arena, they need to kill the Kez, not once but twice.
[09:57:51] I don't think it's gonna happen the rest of liquid is here ready to go BKB off from Ty Lung
[09:57:56] There's gonna be Mickey getting aggressive here. Let's get defensive disruption pin of malice this stuff like everything just burning them down
[09:58:03] Another spear back from whisper though and Mickey pops the man to forget it
[09:58:07] He just dies in for more heroic as space belongs to liquid is you must gonna respawn
[09:58:14] too little too late
[09:58:16] I did not I wasn't even sure they were gonna push with this ages
[09:58:22] You know it's the classic you got to be careful the high ground even though you think you're ahead, but
[09:58:26] Boy are they ahead. I mean that was so far back even if
[09:58:31] Yeah, maybe he meant to stun him on the barracks
[09:58:33] Maybe you meant to just push him in far the whole of liquid runs into the base
[09:58:36] Which is usually really dangerous and they are all still full health. They have so many auras. They have so much healing
[09:58:44] you. Yeah, I think it was
[09:58:48] definitely the plan to set him
[09:58:50] on the barracks because, you
[09:58:52] know, then it's just sky
[09:58:55] Earthmage burst to try and burn
[09:58:56] the ages and then an arena to
[09:58:57] follow it up and instead you're
[09:58:59] forced to. Drop the arena and
[09:59:02] commit your BKB is just not
[09:59:04] ideal. Two lanes of racks down.
[09:59:07] Liquid feeling. Unstoppable. I
[09:59:10] would say it's a good idea to
[09:59:12] Unstoppable I would say in this series now.
[09:59:18] I'm trying to think about how you...
[09:59:20] I don't think the troll can do enough at this point.
[09:59:22] You do this.
[09:59:23] Disseminate does help you get through some of these tanky targets.
[09:59:26] So in an isolated case, like spearback, roar, disseminate, and then like mystic flare, troll.
[09:59:32] Like some combination of the stun and damage.
[09:59:35] It's doable to get a kill here and there, but it depends on liquid being split up.
[09:59:40] So you need to make them scatter on the map for some reason, and you've been trying, but they keep doing this annoying fiendscape thing where they bring everybody, so it's really hard to split the map and find those pick-off opportunities at this point.
[09:59:57] And with MiGae having the butterfly done now, might not really have many chances left. No Mars, means no spearback, no arena, they just immediately drop the golem, cut the tree line to the right.
[10:00:09] Make sure there's no avenue to get surprised. It's the last racks man. What else are you gonna use the golem for I?
[10:00:17] Mean we just mentioned the only way you win this is like some kind of spear back isolating you
[10:00:21] So just make sure you see him TP in if he buys back
[10:00:25] Roar briefly from the Lotus
[10:00:26] They still get the snowball save Yuma's gonna be forced to pop the BKB hasn't quite used the old roar a second one
[10:00:33] The refresher Yuma's gonna pop that battle transfer. Where's your damage?
[10:00:36] damage. Mickey doesn't even seem to care. The eul's to control up the troll. They're
[10:00:40] both dead. Heroic crumble inside their base. And that is gonna be it. There is no second
[10:00:48] lives here. Lincoln will take the series and put themselves in a pretty good spot at the
[10:00:55] end of the group stage. You'll have to see how everything finishes up here. But that will
[10:00:58] be their 7th win tying with OG I believe so see how that ends up affecting the
[10:01:09] placements but they're gonna be pretty happy with that one yeah maybe heroic
[10:01:14] could have taken the fight there at the very end we saw the cans being attacked
[10:01:19] non-stop but he had a butterfly and the MKB was not quite done so a lot of
[10:01:24] control attacks, miss, atomize, maybe that's the, the whole.
[10:01:28] I think Kuprolyk had a really good showing in the laning stage especially, but connecting
[10:01:33] all the pieces in fell apart, and hindsight's 20-20, but I think it started with too much
[10:01:39] emphasis on the Ember Spirit, who can't even truly be shut down, cause all you need is
[10:01:43] level 6, no matter how late that comes in.
[10:01:46] We still saw him contribute to the game, whereas you have to have the blink on the Mars.
[10:01:51] that we saw they had no playmaking potential. Even though Tylong was doing well, yeah okay
[10:01:56] I died once or twice. I'm still doing well. I am just not the hero that does anything until
[10:02:01] he has the eggs and that gives Liquid too much space to come back online. Underlord's
[10:02:07] AFK farming but shows up at the global right so they just had a more flexible draft to
[10:02:13] move around like that and heroic they needed to give Whisper a game. This first pick Mars
[10:02:19] got counterpicked. You have to give more attention to him if you're not picking another playmaker.
[10:02:26] I definitely agree. I think this is one of those games where there's a lot of things that you did
[10:02:33] right on Heroic, but the extra attention on Nisha's Ember Spirit I think ended up backfiring.
[10:02:41] It kind of left Yuma alone top sometimes. He ends up dying a little bit too far forward
[10:02:47] you know to ace is underlord and we know underlord is one of the best heroes for
[10:02:52] liquidity like every time we see them get this ace is always making sure that
[10:02:56] his he knows exactly where his team is at all times so even in the fights where
[10:03:00] it's like oh they're at the tier two he get they get arena they spear him out
[10:03:03] he gets the underlord ult out before you know that the fight really like gets
[10:03:07] too out of control and then they just dive them past the tier two towers right
[10:03:11] like you kill the underlord but it costs you like three heroes and you still had
[10:03:14] ages on Kaz like there's just too many you're too far behind at that point on
[10:03:19] heroic and we didn't really see the Skyrath mage accomplish much this game
[10:03:25] right you have roar you're supposed to have like blink spear and it just didn't
[10:03:28] really happen so I'm wondering like maybe just rethink that for position
[10:03:33] potentially they could been well there's a lot of moving parts it depends
[10:03:38] which one you want to point to but yeah this is the kind of the disconnect we
[10:03:41] talked about with where Heroic is right now. Not eliminated though, they can still fix it
[10:03:47] all overnight and then make their way through the playoffs, that's what they're gonna have
[10:03:50] to go for. We have a couple more games guys, so there'll be a short break here, stay tuned
[10:03:55] for some more exciting action in just a moment.
[10:09:41] the game. Welcome back,
[10:09:51] everybody to more action here.
[10:09:53] Blast slam six. We've got two
[10:09:55] series left here today to run
[10:09:56] out the group stage at least on
[10:09:58] this room. I think they stream
[10:09:59] even a little bit behind us, but
[10:10:01] we're coming down to the tail
[10:10:02] end of things, which means the
[10:10:04] placements are about to be
[10:10:06] solidified and coming up next
[10:10:07] will be gamer Legion versus
[10:10:10] They are at four wins right now, six losses, eighth place at five wins.
[10:10:16] So they have to win this and then they have to hope that the teams that are still
[10:10:20] at five wins are ones that they did beat.
[10:10:23] Yeah, which funny enough, they did beat Falcons actually.
[10:10:28] So if Falcons loses to Tirok.
[10:10:30] Yeah, if Falcons loses to Tundra, there is a decent shot they get out.
[10:10:36] But, you know, they they're not thinking that far ahead.
[10:10:38] first just play well versus Yandex. They had a fairly good showing early today
[10:10:45] with the good draft with the enigma, patient holding, had to really hold on
[10:10:52] there. It was looking a bit bad for them but they eventually came back around the
[10:10:55] late game enigma. I think team Yandex might be pretty hard to do that against.
[10:11:01] I feel like these guys are also pretty smart with the draft. They
[10:11:05] They know what they want.
[10:11:06] They've been looking pretty clean in the way they've been playing.
[10:11:10] Yeah, I think we've had some pretty long games today.
[10:11:14] We had like a 56 minute game ourselves with game religion, but Yandex also just came off
[10:11:18] of a 63 minute game a few moments ago against Falcons.
[10:11:23] So both these teams are putting in some long games today.
[10:11:28] But as of right now, we'll have to see which one is going to walk away with the win.
[10:11:33] We've got a draft before that, of course.
[10:11:35] I would think, I don't think we're to see much change
[10:11:38] in ideas from game religion.
[10:11:40] I think they have a pretty, like they have their heroes
[10:11:42] that they like to play and they build their drafts
[10:11:44] around them specifically.
[10:11:45] Like last game, it was the Fade Enigma.
[10:11:48] They saw like these three tanky strength cores.
[10:11:50] No real way to stop like a BKB Black Hole.
[10:11:53] So that was it.
[10:11:54] They're like, all right, we're playing around
[10:11:54] the BKB Black Hole in the late game.
[10:11:56] That's what we're aiming for.
[10:11:57] Sometimes they're playing, you know,
[10:11:59] for like an earlier tempo with Speed Chen
[10:12:02] and some other heroes to kind of amplify it, but, you know,
[10:12:07] see what they opt for in this series.
[10:12:11] Yeah, I think Chen should be another contested hero
[10:12:15] this game.
[10:12:17] I think Gamer Legion likes it a little bit more,
[10:12:19] but Yandex can definitely pull it out.
[10:12:21] Yeah, I think Keeper of the Light is one that Yandex plays,
[10:12:24] but I don't really see Gamer Legion do too often.
[10:12:28] That's another high tempo hero that I think Gamer Legion
[10:12:32] I want to respect ban out. It's a little bit scary. Yeah. Well, let's head on over to our draft now as we've got
[10:12:40] It's just beginning first set of bands gonna be
[10:12:45] Coming up from game religion. They do have first pick on game religion. So we'll see what they opt for
[10:12:52] Just force Yandex to be the ones to ban out the chen if they're worried about it
[10:12:56] Instantly enough, they actually ban out the Shadowfiend after a pretty good game from
[10:13:03] the Amazon and they get rid of the Axe.
[10:13:05] I think Underlord should be one considered in this game as well.
[10:13:12] I think the Ondex has been playing really well with Underlord and I think it's also
[10:13:15] been performing quite well.
[10:13:18] I'm going to double check that stat actually because I haven't actually looked at his win
[10:13:22] rate.
[10:13:24] 80% out of 10 games. Pretty good. That is pretty good. All right.
[10:13:33] That actually made me like the highest of the frequently picked heroes.
[10:13:37] There's like some 100% at like, you know, one or two games, but yeah, he's the highest.
[10:13:42] Okay, I think Darkseer has six wins and 100% win rate. And then the next highest is the 10
[10:13:47] wins of Underlord at 80%. Dude, there are so many teams floating for that second spot
[10:13:56] at 7 wins, and then there's also the potential that Tundra loses, and then suddenly we'd
[10:14:02] have like 6 teams at 7 and 4, which would be absolutely insane.
[10:14:06] Yeah, because it's the... it's hard to cross reference in Best of Ones, like who won, who
[10:14:12] lost. I'll let the blast will let us know who made it through that form. But yeah, this
[10:14:19] best of one series has made it very close. And it also shows just the level of competition,
[10:14:26] right? There's not one team completely running away with it. Every team can slip up. Every
[10:14:31] team can have great days. And I'm glad to see every team managed to win at least one
[10:14:37] game. Some more than others, but you know, it shows that there's a shot even if you don't,
[10:14:44] you know, make it that far in this particular tournament can give you some hope for the future.
[10:14:53] Okay, they've been out the earths last year. Yeah, that's an interesting one.
[10:15:00] Not one we see too often, but the Huskar is still in the pool.
[10:15:07] So are some of the big supports, you know, especially ones that can really like to play
[10:15:16] much. There it is. The Chen, they will go for it. So first pick Chen for speed. I don't
[10:15:24] think we've really been able to see them actually play this year. It has been banned quite often.
[10:15:28] They'll immediately respond with Timbersaw on Yandex.
[10:15:34] On Gamer.
[10:15:37] Oh, it is, okay, I was confused there for a moment.
[10:15:50] Okay, I'm reframing that in my mind.
[10:15:51] I think I saw it swathe and I was processing.
[10:15:55] The bands make a little bit more sense to me now.
[10:15:58] Um, Chen, Comfort Hero 4, Gamer Legion, allows him to play fast, but Timur's not pretty good at holding his own in the lane, though it could go mid, so that's not set in stone.
[10:16:08] I think it is likely to be in the off lane.
[10:16:10] Yeah. It's good into the Chen lane typically, right? Now that there's no mind stealer mana burn constantly.
[10:16:16] Yeah, burning all your mana.
[10:16:18] I think you still default to creep dragging though, so any position 4 that can do that would be fine.
[10:16:26] Tusk Chikiro band those are good ones Chikiro just genuinely very good against the Chen overall and Tusk
[10:16:33] good saves
[10:16:34] Does exactly what you were just mentioning dragging the waves constantly
[10:16:38] That's something like tiny still available and you can flex it mid. It's looked really good for
[10:16:44] Yandex and then you could do like Keeper the light
[10:16:48] I was gonna say that ever in the lane chakra magic for the the tiny in the mid line
[10:16:52] Yeah, I was gonna mention like they did that before like they picked the tiny and
[10:16:56] Caudal and it was such a sick combo
[10:16:59] They're still an ember spirit as well. I mean ember is like the ideal pairing for a keeper of the light, but
[10:17:06] Tiny also gives you way more lockdown they banned the Largobah and
[10:17:11] We'll see a warlock pick. Okay
[10:17:14] Good sustained great team fight solid against the Chen
[10:17:22] I don't think you need to Abaddon yet, but it could be something to think about later.
[10:17:42] Free Dispel can't be nuked down by the Timberlater on, although the lane is a little awkward,
[10:17:48] but I feel like Chen can get you through that.
[10:17:50] I think you could also do something like clinks.
[10:17:55] Yeah, actually don't mind the clinks.
[10:17:57] You could steal gyrocopter away.
[10:18:02] That's actually kind of an interesting idea.
[10:18:05] Okay, they'll go for the clinks.
[10:18:13] Clink goes my bones.
[10:18:15] That does mean Slardar is a huge potential pick for game religion
[10:18:19] at the 18th pick here and Slardar in the warlock is a rough game for warlock
[10:18:32] i should really like the idea of a slardar it pairs really well with gen 2 just
[10:18:36] it's so much aggression around that like 15 to 25 minute mark
[10:18:43] i think uh okay i was gonna say you can pick like a position four here that helps fill in
[10:18:48] the gaps and could flex. I was going to suggest the tiny, but the Shadow Shaman will definitely
[10:18:53] bring in control that the first two heroes are lacking, and also some really good momentum,
[10:18:58] because Serpent Ward's are now a Chen army, right a fast desolator. You can shred through
[10:19:03] objectives very quickly here, and then save that 18th pick for possibly the Sardar, like you
[10:19:09] mentioned. Maybe the Brewmaster is still in the pool as well. Underlord, I don't know,
[10:19:15] under learning timbers a little if he but the orders are good with the other hero play style
[10:19:35] trying to think like what yandex are going to want here because there's a lot of
[10:19:40] decent four position still available to pair with the timber saw but if you want
[10:19:48] to pick something that drags yeah I'm okay with the tiny if they want to do
[10:19:51] that or tiny plus another hero to keep it vague yeah I think you're not bad at
[10:20:01] delaying a Chen army you do have to consider that you are gonna need my like
[10:20:06] to like think about a minus armor strategy from gamer Legion right
[10:20:10] anytime you have like this cling zero and you have that 18th pick so are still in the pool
[10:20:16] if you pick fragile supports or an off laner or like a mid laner you know one of those flex heroes
[10:20:21] that struggles with armor okay yeah so they do go for the tiny one of the better heroes for that
[10:20:27] right lots of armor through the ultimate lots of hp
[10:20:32] I actually, I mean they might do the caudal anyway just because it's such a good combination
[10:20:40] but a lot of healing, they got the dark willow.
[10:20:49] Alright man I thought about this but I wasn't sure if they would go for it.
[10:20:53] It's just a little bit weird in a chin because like the brambles can just get eaten up by
[10:20:56] all the summons.
[10:20:58] Yeah, actually I'm not so...
[10:21:03] Not so good.
[10:21:04] The soul terrorizes really good in this game.
[10:21:06] I guess so.
[10:21:07] It's a lot of magic damage like you said, which is nice with the fatal bombs to scatter around.
[10:21:13] But I feel like she doesn't have an instant stun, which you like to have, versus Shadow Shaman.
[10:21:18] All her stuff is quite slow.
[10:21:20] And then, yeah, the Chen army for the brambles.
[10:21:23] I don't see the obvious combo.
[10:21:25] I know there's toss eventually, but you're laning in different places
[10:21:29] They're looking for the fade hero here. I think I
[10:21:34] Think you brew master it's only avalanche toss right now, but other lockdowns very awkward. Oh
[10:21:40] There you go RC wise ember first
[10:21:43] Okay, so I mean ember has done pretty well into the tiny. It's a good spirit vessel builder, which you do need
[10:21:49] RC wise had an absolute baller games on this here already
[10:21:52] the game. You don't want to
[10:21:56] get too much of it. You know,
[10:21:57] you're not ready. If you're
[10:21:59] yonder X, you have to worry
[10:22:00] about fades like kind of niche
[10:22:03] picks. Sometimes I don't think
[10:22:05] that there's a consideration
[10:22:06] for the enigma this game.
[10:22:07] You've already got a warlock.
[10:22:08] You don't want to you don't
[10:22:09] like grief yourself by picking
[10:22:14] enigma. Still in the Huskar.
[10:22:16] In case they do carry tiny.
[10:22:19] I mean, I think they would do
[10:22:20] it on Yondex. I think it's
[10:22:21] I mean you have to get rid of it. I mean Ursa is already banned so you don't have to worry about the Ursa match up into the Clinks.
[10:22:33] Windrangers, if you're only worried about the carry and you're not, you know, like Huskar or whatever.
[10:22:38] Windranger is a good ban. You don't like to buy MKB on Clinks.
[10:22:44] I'm not sure what I'm talking about.
[10:22:50] Is it the worst I have in mind?
[10:22:53] Yeah, I'm wondering.
[10:22:54] Yeah, there's a kind of dealt with.
[10:22:56] Abaddon could be annoying, actually.
[10:22:59] Abaddon carry.
[10:23:00] That's kind of falling a little bit out of favor, but...
[10:23:04] It is a really good Abaddon game, actually,
[10:23:07] with the Ember Spirit Shadow Shaman.
[10:23:09] Like, a lot of your control just gets interrupted by this guy.
[10:23:13] And that spirit vessel becomes a lot less valuable in the mid game.
[10:23:16] Mm-hmm.
[10:23:19] The only risk is like, oh, I have to farm Radiance and they're playing fast and I'm having a bad time.
[10:23:23] Then suddenly I'm not a hero.
[10:23:25] But he's got some pretty good early game heroes and the other four to make him space to make sure he gets that Radiance.
[10:23:31] And Warlock, like how bad could your lane go with a Warlock?
[10:23:33] Yeah, exactly.
[10:23:34] I'm trying to think like what hero you could pick for the offlane that actually shuts down Abadon, right?
[10:23:39] Like with a Warlock support.
[10:23:40] They heard a morphling.
[10:23:43] The enigma I guess but that's what the warlock is for is that you preemptively limit the the black hole
[10:23:51] You could still do it for the lane and the aura push
[10:23:55] Yeah, I would still work with Chen and death the deso clinks and then the servant wards fast-paced member
[10:24:00] So they want to go for that. Yes, but then they won't have the same late game potential that we saw in the first
[10:24:05] The first enigma game from earlier today. Hmm. I have an idea
[10:24:10] idea. I mean there is still, there is still Slardar on the table, but also a Primal Beast.
[10:24:17] Warlock is not a hero that can deal with a Primal Beast lane, and Shavasham and Primal
[10:24:23] Beast is pretty dang strong. So if you pick a carry here that doesn't have an interrupt of
[10:24:29] some kind, like mini stun or ways to get away from a Primal Beast, you could just pick the Primal
[10:24:34] the lane would be good I do worry about as the game progresses like dark willow
[10:24:42] tiny timbers kind of a pain and you're gonna get counterpicked by yondex
[10:24:46] because they have the last pick underlord it's gotta be like a fairly
[10:24:51] neutral offlaner here
[10:24:56] Which I do think Underlord and Tide would have fit.
[10:25:03] Yeah.
[10:25:04] Underlord seems to always be a relatively good pick.
[10:25:07] I mean, do you just pick the Slardar anyway?
[10:25:10] Are there any heroes that like really shut down Slardar?
[10:25:13] Yeah, okay.
[10:25:16] This is, I'm glad I thought about it as much as I did earlier on because I feel like this
[10:25:20] is the safest, like pairing with the clink, so it gives you so much minus armor and the
[10:25:25] Supports are very fragile to the Slardar. You have a way to stun dark willow during shadow realm and
[10:25:32] Warlock once corrosive haze is on him. He's dead. I
[10:25:38] Think win ranger is still decent
[10:25:42] Yeah, I think I agree it would be maybe okay kind of scary
[10:25:46] Like once you're on top of the TA the refraction melts and she gets shredded
[10:25:49] But yeah, the early side blades and melds good, but yeah, the the tangled shackle shots safer
[10:25:56] It's surprisingly good at dealing with the Chen army in the past you would think you know
[10:26:00] She could get run down by creeps, but now you keep your distance first the Slardar eventually clear up the creeps
[10:26:06] Jamsons gonna have to think about an MKB now. I
[10:26:11] Like it, I'm still a little confused on this dark willow
[10:26:14] But I know Sox is like such a smart player
[10:26:17] He must have an idea for in mind and I'm excited to see what that is
[10:26:20] But I think the rest all just about makes sense to me
[10:26:30] Yeah, I I
[10:26:33] Mean maybe he plans to like apply a lot of pressure to the chin
[10:26:36] I just don't know how you do that as a dark willow
[10:26:38] the creeps are like just a single summon plus penitence can kind of just bully
[10:26:45] out this support like Jen has pretty good attack range
[10:26:50] clink's doesn't really offer a too long too much in this lane I think that's the
[10:26:57] one I'm most interested to see how it's gonna actually play out I feel like
[10:26:59] safe lane for Watson should be relatively good right you have a warlock
[10:27:02] behind you fade on the starter can't really pressure this hero at all so
[10:27:06] you're going to be kind of free to do what you want.
[10:27:09] Ember Spirit versus Tiny is a matchup we've seen quite a bit.
[10:27:12] I think more often than not, it goes the Ember Spirit's way.
[10:27:16] But the first wave or so for Tiny,
[10:27:18] if you get some decent denies, can slow down the Ember Spirit's
[10:27:22] level two and then potentially abuse the timing there.
[10:27:27] Yeah, and the credits to Dark Willow,
[10:27:29] she can Bramble from pretty far away.
[10:27:30] So you can rotate over mid before R.C.Y. hit six,
[10:27:34] and then just avalanche toss into some brambles to maybe you don't kill them,
[10:27:38] but you at least slow them down, which we've seen can make a big deal to embers.
[10:27:43] Though maybe Nisha showed it also, maybe it doesn't make a big deal.
[10:27:46] If the team can cover you and you can just recover.
[10:27:54] Well, this is going to be a fun one.
[10:27:56] A lot on the line here for both these teams, Yandex fighting, you know,
[10:28:00] for that top of the groups gamer legion fighting to get into the middle of the
[10:28:06] groups you know we'll see which which one ends up being the case as we jump
[10:28:10] into this best of one gamer legion versus yandex I like both draftsman it's
[10:28:19] gonna be a fun fun series speed gets his chin I think very rarely does he
[10:28:24] actually get this year has been first-phase banned quite often this
[10:28:27] event. We'll see how much you can get done on it.
[10:28:32] I guess something nice for Dark Willow when they commit penitence, try to run you down.
[10:28:36] You can just shadow realm back away. Can't actually take too much damage from the
[10:28:40] Chen with that ability up.
[10:28:49] Speaking of level 1s, I think you got to respect Gamer Legion's potential to smoke in for a
[10:28:54] have a very strong level one fight. Yondex isn't too bad. You know your tiny is gonna
[10:29:04] have tree grab right so like he's not much of a threat. Yeah so not too worried there
[10:29:14] but smoke up now from Yondex as they go for the wrap around into the radiant
[10:29:18] There's a good ward from both teams.
[10:29:23] That smoke pops, big numb.
[10:29:26] Gonna see them now.
[10:29:30] They'll be able to just pressure and grab themselves,
[10:29:32] I think all three of these bounty runes now.
[10:29:37] Very nice stuff.
[10:29:38] I feel I joked about it in a previous gamer legion series, but we mentioned how level it was when like all 10 heroes were looking at each other and no
[10:29:53] Neither team would go yesterday
[10:29:55] I feel like some of gamer legion slip-ups have been in the laning stage
[10:30:00] And I feel like one of the things they have adjusted is like be very careful at the start like let's go into the lanes
[10:30:06] neutral and not already behind, but it also means I don't think they pushed as
[10:30:12] hard as they could have there. Is that right, what? Do they get it? Orla is very low.
[10:30:19] I think trying to use the Twin Gates a bit in a bait, I think you should just teleport to lanes.
[10:30:25] I've seen a lot of heroes get caught like that. Well, it was a really good read
[10:30:31] right from game religion. They're gonna try to get aggressive on the Watts and the
[10:30:34] follow-up stun, one more auto attack from Big Numb, he gets it.
[10:30:37] First blood in this off lane. This is a real big fish getting in the way of the
[10:30:43] Windranger. Could not get around the tree line.
[10:30:46] Alright, I mean Warlock lost like all his health, now your Windranger died, had the TP back in.
[10:30:53] We were talking about, you know, Warlock giving you a very stable lane but
[10:30:58] things going quite well for Gamer Legion up there.
[10:31:02] I think he also shadow worded himself coming back into the lane, so like you didn't have it for the wind ranger
[10:31:10] You got it. He came to lane with a hundred health right so it's a snowball series of effects
[10:31:21] Pretty even still in this mid lane
[10:31:25] Bottom they're doing the creep dragging. He don't want to lane into clink's you don't want to lane into chen
[10:31:29] then you certainly don't want to lane into the combo of those heroes.
[10:31:42] The water runes are going to spawn, and I think they'll both just take the one and head back over.
[10:31:47] RCY did a really good job in those last two waves.
[10:31:49] Ends up getting, I think, the full wave and a couple of denies.
[10:31:59] Watson still bouncing back on the assets despite the death. I'm not too surprised. Windranger
[10:32:10] is a really strong laner, especially with the tangled shackleshot facets. They are trying
[10:32:16] to make a play onto Warlock here. Shackles committed. They should have a bash into a
[10:32:20] crush. One more. They get another kill now onto Malady.
[10:32:26] You know, we were saying this should be a pretty good lane for Yandex, but they're just running them down. No problem at all.
[10:32:36] We had seen Fade and Vignum play pretty well together. When things are going, they go well.
[10:32:43] The other day we saw, what was it, Largo, Jekiro? They absolutely destroyed Reconyx's safe lane.
[10:32:56] I'm going to go for the shackle like there's no stopping me now.
[10:33:20] Good recognition there from big dumb to just punish him immediately he didn't have time
[10:33:24] get the shadow word out and so that's a quick kill round two there is another
[10:33:29] crush today I'm chicken fingers as well not quite yet no bash yet a lot of
[10:33:34] damages though yeah this is the thing with landing with the wind ranger right
[10:33:38] like you need to spam shackle shot to harass to secure creeps since you skip
[10:33:44] power shot but that means you can never stop the shackles the other shackles
[10:33:54] Well, overall I mean this top lane CSY is not great for this LAR but all these kills
[10:34:01] gonna do great for their XP.
[10:34:03] The earlier you can get Crow some Hayes online the faster you're gonna be able to play and
[10:34:07] with R.C.Y having as good of a time mid as he is that's gonna be a tempo that's gonna
[10:34:13] be hard to match on Yandex.
[10:34:22] This one's just for fun.
[10:34:24] Don't think you can get a kill this time, unless you win runs too far in, but no, gonna show the proper restraint.
[10:34:31] And the next exciting thing we'll see is the power room rotation soon.
[10:34:41] Bidnam loves shackling up here.
[10:34:44] He's just, he's like, I have a little bit of chip damage, I gained some health.
[10:34:49] Feels pretty good.
[10:34:51] Why even buy tangos
[10:35:03] Steal the bounty rune on his way to come help out the ember
[10:35:06] Chirijun is pretty low if the shadow shaman connects in the back. I mean big num is pretty close
[10:35:11] He's gonna close the gap. There's the shackles from downtown and another kill for our CY in the mid lane
[10:35:18] We've seen this be the pattern
[10:35:20] for him in these matchups that will be immediate earn charges that is incredibly
[10:35:27] valued see they get the the room now soxa is here to try to slow down the
[10:35:32] ember you might just get unlucky though on the spawn it's top indeed well okay
[10:35:38] at least you're lucky that it's an in this room that's not that great for ember
[10:35:42] who can just initiate with remnants anyways doesn't really need to sneak in
[10:35:45] there but it is regen for him to work with. He didn't have to extend his re-invice to
[10:35:51] you. So with this RCY, I'm actually just going to
[10:35:57] bottle uh, or keep it in the bottle, send out his boots and a clarity to try and give
[10:36:02] him a little bit more mana to play with. Doesn't want to have to head back to the fountain
[10:36:07] yet and use yet another remnant. Dude look at this.
[10:36:11] Warden this up
[10:36:15] He's got the cobalt foreman. Yeah
[10:36:19] Just do the day I
[10:36:22] Mean ember spirits on the way I think what the invasions right before he walks into the room at the ward
[10:36:29] Yeah, this is gonna be a really scary contest big dumb has wrapped all the way around as well. It's everywhere
[10:36:36] These do you just takes it before they even get a chance to?
[10:36:40] The shrine's gone, RCY is here two hero shackles now looking for the timbersaw the hexes out. It's a disaster
[10:36:49] What a play from gamer legion using that in visroon not one we typically see have a lot of impact early
[10:36:58] Not on ember at least it's not usually one he needs so really well done sneaking past that observer
[10:37:05] The stack will be cleared up by
[10:37:07] Cheers, you know he's like they sure are moving a lot. I can't afford to lose this one
[10:37:12] So they'll grab it, but they lost the shrine
[10:37:16] That means the supports the the level is important right like hand of God and Serpent Wars are so powerful
[10:37:23] So is Gollum and so is Bedlam and Terrorize
[10:37:26] But you have a level or two advantage now on the support six and oh double wisdom shrine
[10:37:31] You need to not slip up because as you build a big lead any mistake actually cost you very heavily
[10:37:39] Good D ward as well. You got a play in the dark here
[10:37:43] Well, I mean
[10:37:44] They're looking for their opening chains are out big numb to follow up with a shackle do they have the damage with the clings
[10:37:50] It's gonna be close penitence now out chicken fingers the follow-up study get some down to 20 HP of the second earn
[10:37:56] I don't think he's gonna die. He's toggling like branches into his inventory. They try to cyber with a blood grenade
[10:38:05] But it's not enough and our RC Y dies and set as Watson will run him down with a focus fire
[10:38:13] That's a heavy punish in the mid lane
[10:38:18] I like the idea to try to sneak in the the clinks, but this is why it's often underappreciated the
[10:38:26] The craggy exterior on Tiny, the more you hit him, you start to lose damage, and in these drawn out kills,
[10:38:33] when he's got that extra armor, it's actually quite tough.
[10:38:36] He's got a TP top to try to find Fade, but Fade is sprinting out of here.
[10:38:42] Jackal's gonna hit though. Toss. Not available, of course, but you still got the Avalanche. There's your toss.
[10:38:50] Alright, these are two back-to-back kills now involving Watson and he's very happy for that.
[10:38:57] I mean, despite everything that happened mid, the tiny is not far behind the Ember spirit.
[10:39:04] Some of that is being able to secure the stacks that were made earlier.
[10:39:10] Oh gosh, Spooky Ghost.
[10:39:14] I think this kill assist also saves his game.
[10:39:16] Oh yeah, the power of the ghost.
[10:39:20] I think after that slip up gamer Legion just needs to let's hit our sixes on the supports because with that
[10:39:28] There's no way they can fight us
[10:39:30] There's only two charges on the grimoire
[10:39:34] Nope
[10:39:36] So remnant to the bottom lane is gonna get himself another room this swan an illusion
[10:39:44] Fades here no blank though
[10:39:46] So, good luck sprinting up to a tiny.
[10:39:59] Giving the lane over to Bignum.
[10:40:01] He's been moving around a lot.
[10:40:03] You often end up underleveled, but every move was a success, so it's actually an okay spot.
[10:40:10] Just one wave in the mid lane should give him his level six at a pretty respectable time.
[10:40:14] And then Chen just doing a little jungling to finish up the last half level he needs as well
[10:40:18] And then I think you just like a click down a lane together
[10:40:23] Don't think they can fight you into hand of God
[10:40:26] Unfortunate I think if you focused on this a little sooner you could have timed this with the catapult waves
[10:40:30] Which would have been a bit stronger
[10:40:32] a warlock also given enough priority in the mid lane so he can pop the black
[10:40:44] remark anytime to hit level six still not terrorized though he's only four and
[10:40:49] a half on socks I'm pretty rough I really think gamer Legion needs to make
[10:40:53] use of that as the supports finally hit level six yeah shout out showman's
[10:40:58] Wards need to get spent pretty much immediately in mid lane versus tiny is probably ideal because he's never gonna kill these serpent wards
[10:41:06] RCY I think has the vessel completed now
[10:41:09] There's a massive spike in damage for this hero
[10:41:14] Golden committed bottom
[10:41:18] It's still gonna be the tower
[10:41:22] Well, I say that
[10:41:23] Gay religion wants to fight this potentially. They're smoking to the bottom lane with that vessel on RC Y now
[10:41:29] at the levels bikes and
[10:41:31] calls are you?
[10:41:33] Do you want to open on notice probably not there's gonna be the corrosive he's at warlock just
[10:41:39] Falls right over the timbersaw to burn the follow-up hexes are there two big kills
[10:41:46] As they defend their tower and they will look for the enemy tier one instead shaman
[10:41:51] still here in this bottom lane has those serpent wards available I say that you
[10:41:56] might be going top both things scanning this though yeah
[10:42:02] sox that doesn't have six but he doesn't really have a lot of mana to work with
[10:42:07] especially if big man gets taken out without dropping serpent wards yeah he
[10:42:11] did that is not what you wanted and now fade can't really get out of this one
[10:42:18] either just gonna get body blocked up try to turn around onto Watson but another
[10:42:21] shackles and another double kill oh the bait of the twin gate they thought that
[10:42:29] they had the play top but instead you lose two heroes it was a great observer
[10:42:36] ward to see that coming in they they were trying to push it because clink's and
[10:42:40] Chen were able to take the tower on their own so rather than dedicate four
[10:42:43] heroes for it you know like I let two heroes do it maybe two can get more top
[10:42:48] But YonDex was ready for that move.
[10:42:50] Oh, what is he doing?
[10:42:51] This one, though.
[10:42:52] Biddenham wants some revenge.
[10:42:53] Can he get the shackle off?
[10:42:54] No.
[10:42:55] I think he could just chase Watson, though.
[10:42:58] He's going to try to TP.
[10:42:59] Is the damage there?
[10:43:00] He gets the chains.
[10:43:01] He's got them.
[10:43:03] Just at the last second.
[10:43:05] And there's your Serpent Ward.
[10:43:06] It's finally coming to the top side.
[10:43:11] He's supposed to be dying in the mid lane.
[10:43:13] overall not bad timings out from gamer legion as the desolator is now done on
[10:43:23] the clinks so you won't have the shard like right at 15 minutes but this is
[10:43:28] still a very nice pickup especially if you can get involved in some more kills
[10:43:32] here 14-minute power root bottled up by cheer junior good attempt there though
[10:43:39] from RCY.
[10:43:40] Yes, that was done.
[10:43:51] I'm trying to look what the next power spike is for Gamer Legion, probably the mech on
[10:44:00] the chen and then blink on Slardar.
[10:44:03] Then you can get together and go again.
[10:44:08] And Clinkz will try to get his shard.
[10:44:13] That's one way you can deal with Windrun.
[10:44:15] Just use the Burning Barrage.
[10:44:20] You got the lock down for it so she's not at least running out of there, which the usual
[10:44:23] problem with Windrun is either dodging your attacks or Windrunning at a rocket, uh, Burning
[10:44:27] Barrage, but you got shackles.
[10:44:30] got bruise you got stuns tiny blink looking for ember this is where the
[10:44:48] combo is pretty good with the dark willow before disbells come out you can
[10:44:52] avalanche toss into brambles cursed crown terrorize you're just stuck forever
[10:45:00] decent size wave tier with the catapult and the serpent orbs maybe just pressure the tier
[10:45:21] two. Dessa as well.
[10:45:34] They decide they want mid for the power rune first. RCY looks out with an amplify damage rune.
[10:45:39] That's a huge one. Alright, so careful this fight.
[10:45:44] Plinks can connect onto this too. Like he's farming not too far away from his heroes.
[10:45:51] And the shard comes through right now, so this is a pretty big spike for these guys
[10:45:57] We'll see if he can connect with fade on the slaughter warlock
[10:46:02] The only hero sitting behind the tower looks like they're gonna back away now
[10:46:11] Okay, we'll just hold on to this amplified damage for now
[10:46:21] I have this feeling gamer legion could have pushed harder. Yeah the the stark they had the support level advantage
[10:46:28] like some of these timings are coming up and
[10:46:31] They're responding to plays more than doing their own
[10:46:34] There is a pretty decent spot speed. He needs to be a little bit careful there, but it's AXA on this dark willow
[10:46:42] For us to try and run away, but you will not escape from this ember spirit
[10:46:47] Well, does he get up with the acorn toss? No, I'll just burn him down instead
[10:46:51] That thing said cheer junior. I mean he committed a deep for this. They managed to cancel his TP
[10:46:55] And now he's gonna just beat down here by the sardar one more auto attack for that bash damage. They got him. You rose
[10:47:03] You could haze maybe you take the mid tower first, but you definitely could do it. No, there's gonna go straight in
[10:47:10] Get your clinkson here. You need the death. So with the growths of haze it should be pretty dang easy
[10:47:17] and Ember might still just get in the tower anyway.
[10:47:21] They're smoked up though, looking to make a play.
[10:47:23] RCY with the Samplify damage needs to be careful.
[10:47:26] They'll get it. They know the Roche attempt is happening.
[10:47:29] The Golem comes down. Does he get the Aegis?
[10:47:31] Now it goes into RCY's hands.
[10:47:33] Bignum in some trouble. Shackling.
[10:47:35] Holding them at bay.
[10:47:37] They'll definitely be sacrificing himself for this one.
[10:47:41] But a worthwhile find.
[10:47:43] Big Nym taken the death for the team to make sure everyone else gets out because it was it was a little greedy to try to do both to do Roche and the tier one at the same time you really should just secure one.
[10:47:56] They barely get out with both only costing the shadow shaman it's going to be a big win in the end.
[10:48:02] Now you have that for the Tormentor fight you you should have golem up for Tormentor, but it's kind of you know
[10:48:09] Oh, I'm saying it's kind of a minute leading into it. You have to worry about now cheer junior bottom lane
[10:48:14] No escape from these two is gonna turn around just
[10:48:17] Whack fade a couple times to maybe get some extra chip damage in but the Slardar
[10:48:22] You're gonna start seeing this guy get a lot more involved
[10:48:27] There's the blink dagger from big num as well being picked up
[10:48:32] Shard finished on fade to he was having a little bit of a rock game bottom net worth of cores
[10:48:38] But blink shard is when this hero really starts to come online
[10:48:42] So you can see that gold recover especially to get to play behind the strength of the ages
[10:48:47] He's going for the agatum scepter on the clink's
[10:48:52] They don't really see this anymore. Yeah, I do got pretty heavily nerfed
[10:48:58] Yeah, so I think that's why a lot of people went past it
[10:49:02] But if you're trying to go really fast with
[10:49:06] Serpent wards and like Chen aura's and everything. I think the eggs could still be the way
[10:49:13] Like the fastest pushing build you've got
[10:49:17] So once it doesn't work you will backfire
[10:49:24] Okay, I mean there's a war that's scouting this entire movement
[10:49:27] There's the avalanche onto two the toss big num does get the hex off safe by the
[10:49:31] chin for the moment he's trying his best to shackle him down get some extra
[10:49:35] health cheer junior fights his way out of the serpent wards big num make it up
[10:49:39] work for it steering chains on to three the crush comes in they take down the
[10:49:42] dark willow so far really good fight but yeah RCY now shackled up yeah Watson's
[10:49:48] trying to finish the job he's gonna get him right no he gets away the Croaker oh
[10:49:54] Oh my goodness, Watson.
[10:49:57] Gonna get chased down, finished off here by Yamsun.
[10:50:02] The Croakers?
[10:50:03] They are Gamer Legion fans
[10:50:05] because Gamer Legion loves Largo.
[10:50:08] Dude, this one for you guys.
[10:50:10] That actually kills the Windranger.
[10:50:12] She might've died anyways.
[10:50:13] They might've chased a little harder for it,
[10:50:15] but pretty good fight for them in the end.
[10:50:17] It is so hard to kill the Shadow Shaman.
[10:50:19] He's healing so much in the shackles.
[10:50:22] Plus the Shadow.
[10:50:22] I'm gonna get you to torment her.
[10:50:23] The Amphibied Gamerjorn also did a lot of work there for the Clinks.
[10:50:29] He was a little late, had the TP in right now, but you see the Shadow Shaman full shackle.
[10:50:34] Then the Foul Play facet that you love so much.
[10:50:37] Or sorry, Innate that you love so much.
[10:50:41] I mean that blink crush, you can see right there just how strong it is.
[10:50:44] He ends up dying for it.
[10:50:45] The fact that R.C.Y. lives here was wild.
[10:50:48] Back to life though, they've managed to find themselves
[10:50:52] Potentially another kill on to the tiny
[10:50:57] Top lane they're gonna find them. Oh god, he knows he's not getting out of this one
[10:51:03] No chance the wrap around from the slardar at the at the ready and now
[10:51:09] Two dead 8,000 gold advantage and ages still for another minute
[10:51:17] He might be looking to go high ground with that agatom scepter of the claims that you were talking about
[10:51:22] I hadn't thought about this.
[10:51:26] The Kroger has an ability where when he's in water, he provides an aura to boost outgoing
[10:51:32] damage.
[10:51:33] It's usually quite hard to force to happen, easy kill for big num.
[10:51:37] It's usually hard to force that to happen if you're not fighting in river, but actually
[10:51:41] paired with the fish boy himself, Slardar, that's a big damage boost actually.
[10:51:47] That's like a free Vlad's if you have that creep nearby.
[10:51:50] kind of hype. There's so much healing coming in from the Chen and we can see now like there's
[10:51:57] a reason that gamer Legion will all like pretty much always first picks the Chen if it's in the
[10:52:02] pool. Let's take a quick glimpse at the net worth chart if you guys have been uh so preoccupied
[10:52:07] elsewhere. Speed. Speed. Fast the mid lane and his own off lane. He did get the shard. He did get
[10:52:14] get the shard yes yes yes but still even without that this man has guardian
[10:52:19] greaves holy lock it done healing yeah this pretty much means Chen's items
[10:52:29] pretty much counter warlock as a hero you know you have bought the warlock
[10:52:34] counter all that daily damage just does not matter
[10:52:40] be careful with the creeps start a going for his BKB very necessary on this
[10:52:50] hero after that it's probably just the agonim scepter this hero just needs to
[10:52:54] survive those initiation
[10:52:57] I
[10:53:01] See what they can get done
[10:53:04] Used to have like true strike on it
[10:53:08] Yeah, I think it did but I was a little one now
[10:53:14] Speed you got an ancient rumble hide get that war drums aura
[10:53:18] It gives you a good person or right. Yeah accuracy. Yeah, I could help clink
[10:53:23] he is going to work towards an MKB after the BKB, but
[10:53:26] little rumble hide could help. There we go, little guy. Soxa? Oh my god that's a lot of damage.
[10:53:37] Alright he's gonna get the curse crown into potentially keeping out but they've got a much
[10:53:43] bigger kill on the other side. Can they close the gap? No they're just gonna let it go. Soxa
[10:53:49] spent everything he had to not die there but losing the temper side and now the tier two in the mid lane.
[10:53:54] Far more costly.
[10:53:57] Yeah, now at this point, ages will start to respawn in about a minute and twenty seconds.
[10:54:09] You don't have too much pressure to do anything before then.
[10:54:14] You know, like, get your BKBs, Shiva finish that up on the Slardar.
[10:54:19] are the the timings are coming along nicely for game religion on the other
[10:54:25] side I'm really not sure I mean it's all the way they're strong now that the
[10:54:31] BKB toss backs are always a way to come back into the game the game really didn't
[10:54:37] pretty good about playing together so far not giving up these free kills over
[10:54:41] to the tiny yeah when deranged or will do a serious amount of damage in these
[10:54:46] fights like the BKB focus fire she can kind of sit on her target and make sure
[10:54:51] that they die but last fight it went on to the ember spirit and he was able to
[10:54:56] constantly remnants away from her so at this point Watson's looking at for that
[10:55:02] clinks if he can get his hands on it
[10:55:16] It's a 12,000 gold lead.
[10:55:18] My goodness.
[10:55:26] So if you're gamer-leagent, what is it that you're waiting for right now?
[10:55:29] Because, you know, with this gold advantage, they're kind of...
[10:55:33] I feel like they're able to secure...
[10:55:34] Okay, well, I was like, they're able to secure kills absolutely.
[10:55:36] Drop the golem here, but yeah, he still gets the kill.
[10:55:39] The chase though. Here comes Watson.
[10:55:41] Four steps to the low ground from Big Numb.
[10:55:43] Beautifully done.
[10:55:45] He's going to cost his own life here, but yeah, did you manage to finish off?
[10:55:49] There's the BKB from Watson.
[10:55:50] He's going to continue the chase now looking for Fade, but the clink's agonimceptor just reigning in the fire.
[10:55:56] They need to run the blink and the chains.
[10:55:59] Can they get the kill?
[10:56:00] It's up to the Ember.
[10:56:03] He's going to do it.
[10:56:04] No chance.
[10:56:05] The Searing Chains just walks on by now looking for notice.
[10:56:08] This Fade continuing to look like dagger up into.
[10:56:12] Do they want to get the chase?
[10:56:13] the crush is there, but no follow-up quite yet.
[10:56:20] Only losing the Windranger, I guess the Dark Willow at the start as well, is surprisingly
[10:56:25] good for how that was looking.
[10:56:30] They'll need to win a Nether fight as well, because Roche is about a medium spawn Nether
[10:56:35] minute to go, so they can clean up his Outer Tower first, get the Aegis, and then all they'll
[10:56:39] have to do is play bottom.
[10:56:42] Willow, unlucky, got from a Sheva's Slypchains. They do get the kill just barely.
[10:56:50] Burnin' and the AoE and good attempt from Soxa to try and TP home, but not quite there.
[10:56:58] So Roshan in 30 seconds. All right, let's look back at this fight.
[10:57:03] The agg just gives such good zone control. You can see like, notice and Watson on the left
[10:57:07] and then now the insurer, Junior on the right. You can't really get back together
[10:57:12] because they get the skeletons and then the terrain.
[10:57:15] So everyone just has to scatter in four different directions.
[10:57:18] And I mean, whoever game religion chooses to chase,
[10:57:21] they'll get the kill.
[10:57:22] And of course, you're gonna pick the carry Windranger.
[10:57:26] Oh no, not again.
[10:57:28] Notice mid lane.
[10:57:30] BKB out from fade.
[10:57:32] We'll finish the job.
[10:57:33] Chases him down with the help of the M son
[10:57:35] and crush now on the pure junior.
[10:57:38] Go Scepter, buying him some time.
[10:57:42] Mostly just doing their best here to survive but RCY once again with this searing or with these searing chains
[10:57:48] They get the the hex into the shackles trying to save your wind ranger a nervous
[10:57:53] I'm trying to force the BKB, but now RCY is in very deep one remnants coming off cool down now
[10:57:59] But that heals from the Chen my goodness instead. He's like screw it
[10:58:03] I'll do it myself goes in aggressively cheerier tosses him away
[10:58:06] Big no nearly dies to the tower and it will end up being a kill the buyback for the Timbersaw doing work
[10:58:12] RCY not quite done trying to find a cheeky killer on the Watson, but not gonna get it
[10:58:18] Now notice comes in aggressively. Yeah, I'm son dumping in the damage tossed aggressively pops his BKB
[10:58:23] Can he finish the job with timbersaw? He's low, but not quite yet that goes scepter to buy
[10:58:28] The warlock a moment as he turns around drops the golem RCY will dodge out the shackle shot
[10:58:34] And the index hold
[10:58:39] Barely hold on
[10:58:42] You have to use everything for that though, and now that Roche is up...
[10:58:49] I don't know, is there a world you can test this? You kind of have to, I can't give the banner over at the Aegis, but...
[10:58:55] I think you lose that fight around the pit, now that you...
[10:58:58] R-Square has a shield rune as well, uh-oh, no because you're under windranger,
[10:59:03] pops a focus fire, but fades, looking for the opening instead, turns the tension over to Chira, the instant kill!
[10:59:08] Watch him! He dies!
[10:59:10] He gets clipped by the tail end of the burning army, and now another chains out from RCY to secure the kill onto Malady.
[10:59:20] Three dead as Roche respawns. A potential death sentence here for Yandex.
[10:59:30] Yeah, you can't, you can't fight out of the base anymore.
[10:59:33] They they've tried but
[10:59:35] Game really just sticking together playing really well up Roche wants to move on
[10:59:39] Even if you get this during the shackles. Yeah, they'll get him
[10:59:45] I mean, they'll get him sorry
[10:59:47] Why is he so fast cuz the more things he throws the faster he gets
[10:59:54] He's all out of here
[10:59:57] All right, they get the ages of the the banner
[11:00:00] bottom lane is the last outer tower to get should be no problem for a clink with
[11:00:06] 14 deso charges okay dark willow manages to dodge death here fade if he finds her
[11:00:12] now that has the gunpowder gauntlet she dies in a single crush yeah sox is
[11:00:18] trying to stay down here to cut the wave but RC wise actually around here he
[11:00:22] He knows I might luck out if he's reading this one
[11:00:30] Sardar should be able to get the crutch here. Yep, and well
[11:00:34] It was I wasn't I wasn't confident he had blinked, but I didn't hear him use it recently so
[11:00:40] Good attempt from Soxa, but not gonna be enough as there is still a creep wave with the catapult on this wave. Yeah
[11:00:48] Drop this banner not that close though
[11:00:52] What did the M-Song just buy with his nullifier, I believe?
[11:00:55] Oh, okay.
[11:00:56] I was like, please tell me it's not divine.
[11:00:58] Get a divine.
[11:01:00] There's your burning army deep behind the tier three tower.
[11:01:02] Going to be able to start scouting these ones out.
[11:01:06] As Blink crush onto Malady, he's going
[11:01:08] to get the Ghost Scepter off with the Ember Spirit.
[11:01:11] They're making it very hard for him to survive.
[11:01:14] As Faye's just looking to jump in and out of these fights
[11:01:16] constantly, full lane of racks now,
[11:01:20] gone no warlock for 40 seconds you do not have your kit you do not have your
[11:01:24] golem you don't have your fatal bonds you don't have to sustain now it's only a
[11:01:30] matter of time before big dumb finds his next target well I say that the toss in
[11:01:36] the clink that's a pretty good way to open this fight but my goodness this
[11:01:43] takes down two right away serious chains comes out they'll get big dumb with a
[11:01:46] Focus fire, but Watson at what cost your whole team is dying RCY committing heavily here the searing chains the vessel out again
[11:01:55] The blink crush comes out Watson trying as best to escape the nullifier
[11:02:01] Sends them to his grave
[11:02:03] As Yandex don't doesn't have much left in the tank here
[11:02:08] Another lane of racks about to fall the burning army just working on these tier four towers
[11:02:16] And oh nice Lotus reflects the the site but RCY trying to prevent Malady from just getting back to his bounce in at this point
[11:02:23] What a menace
[11:02:26] You drop an items in front of the base to drop the clarity brah. Hi RCY
[11:02:34] Having some fun it would seem serpent ward drop crimson guard here to try and
[11:02:38] Delay this game just a little bit nullifier out onto timbersaw but to get the stun the tariff
[11:02:43] The Terais does connect, we still had BKB at the ready and Faye just controlling up the supports in the back line.
[11:02:50] Still no windrunner for 15 more seconds as it is all falling apart for Yandex here.
[11:02:55] They do not have the damage without Watson.
[11:02:58] The GG comes out as RCY finishes the game beyond God like 14-1 and 15 on the Ember.
[11:03:06] as gamer legion might have punched their ticket out of the lower side of these playoffs
[11:03:16] at least a little bit out of their hand now right now you just see how the other teams do
[11:03:22] if you get higher uh you've done it but they i think the the biggest prize that they're looking
[11:03:28] better the last two times you and i've caught them the the pieces are coming together obviously
[11:03:34] they're still gonna make mistakes and they're gonna go back and reflect on, but I think they showed much better
[11:03:41] performance in the laning stage
[11:03:43] Special shout out to Bagnum that game like wins that top lane and you're like, yeah
[11:03:47] Hey, wouldn't it be cool if I I don't know win like every other lane, too
[11:03:50] And just makes the the trip across the map getting kills everywhere and then from there
[11:03:56] I think they were off to a really good start. I do think they could push their advantage a little bit more after they get
[11:04:00] That successful double wisdom shrine
[11:04:02] But you know, there was like a slight fault or there it looks like yondex might use that moment to get back into the game and they tried but
[11:04:11] In the end they weren't fully able to do that game religion reclaims control and you know close this one out very cleanly
[11:04:18] Yeah, there was a there's a couple
[11:04:20] Like nice place from yondex where they do manage to catch game religion and maybe a little bit out of position
[11:04:25] But yeah, son one of the things that we've talked about with him is he's had moments in some of these series this tournament where he gets caught out of position
[11:04:32] And it really slows down his game. I mean now this time deathless 12 0 and 7 on the clink's definitely enabled by the rest of his team
[11:04:41] But not giving you know him like a free kill over the on decks for for whatever reason like that makes a
[11:04:48] Massive difference with their ability to control the map. So well done gamer legion. They'll finish the group stage
[11:04:54] I believe at 5 and 6 so that you know puts them right in that buffer between
[11:05:01] the game. So we're going to
[11:05:05] see how the game is going to
[11:05:07] be between eight and ninth.
[11:05:08] We'll have to see like how the
[11:05:09] scores end up settling, but I
[11:05:11] think for game religion, they
[11:05:13] might get kind of lucky as they
[11:05:15] did get the wins over heroic
[11:05:17] and Falcons, which were some of
[11:05:19] the teams that are also in that
[11:05:22] kind of relative area. So a few
[11:05:24] more games have to be played.
[11:05:26] It's going to be very close for
[11:05:28] which teams actually make it to
[11:05:29] the top two, which teams make
[11:05:30] of the groups pretty good pretty good day for any so I think they'll take that and they they seem to
[11:05:35] be on the upward trajectory which is very good because they had some very shaky performances earlier
[11:05:40] Yandex maybe gonna have to revisit some of that I think they didn't play like too badly but I mean
[11:05:46] we've seen them do a lot better right so yeah a little bit of reflecting for them to do as well
[11:05:50] now that they are done with the group stage they should be fine in this like this middle of the
[11:05:54] the pack but their shot at first place or like the first two spots is gone.
[11:05:59] The spot for the last two teams that we're going to see, Spirit and Reconyx, they do
[11:06:06] not have a shot at the top two but they are not eliminated so they do need to improve
[11:06:11] and we're going to see what they can do in the final game here for the B stream in just
[11:06:16] a little bit so don't go anywhere we'll be back in just a few minutes.
[11:11:24] the
[11:11:30] the
[11:11:35] the
[11:11:40] the
[11:11:45] What is up, everybody? We are at the tail end of the group stage here for Blast Slam 6.
[11:11:51] We've got one series left here on B-Stream. We've got a couple series left over on the A-Stream.
[11:11:55] But Team Spirit vs. Reconyx is going to wrap things up for us here. Reconyx not had the best showing.
[11:12:01] They've had a couple series that slipped right out of their fingertips. They had it.
[11:12:06] And then stumbled right before the finish line.
[11:12:09] team spirit, I will say, looked much better today.
[11:12:15] You know, when we saw them this morning versus Tundra,
[11:12:18] they had an amazing series.
[11:12:20] So we'll see how they managed to wrap up their group stage
[11:12:25] here, because they've also had a little bit of a rocky start.
[11:12:29] Yeah, I think Reconyx's performance
[11:12:31] isn't too surprising, no offense,
[11:12:33] but they are the underdogs coming in.
[11:12:35] So I think this was expected.
[11:12:36] In fact, I think the fact that they had a winning position
[11:12:39] a lot of the teams is actually a pretty good sign for a roster that is relatively recently
[11:12:43] formed and unknown compared to others.
[11:12:46] So I hope we see more of them down the line.
[11:12:50] Spirit is the one that, you know, fan favorites, everyone expects a lot, so it's a bit surprising
[11:12:54] to see them shaky at the same time, not that surprising because they feel like they go
[11:12:59] through this, they go through the ups and the downs and currently in the downside of
[11:13:06] the swings. I think with spirit, like, they are one of the most clutched teams historically
[11:13:14] when it comes to, like, team fighting. There's not many teams that you feel confident, or
[11:13:20] that you feel, like, less confident going into the late game against, right? Like, I think
[11:13:23] spirit has always been one of those teams where you're like, oh, god, late game, dota
[11:13:27] against spirit, like, you're, the longer the game goes on, the more likely you are to just
[11:13:33] lose. And I think right now we're in a patch where it does kind of favor the
[11:13:39] longer games. I'd have to look at the exact average game time, but we've seen
[11:13:43] a lot of games in the late 40 minutes and you know still several games over
[11:13:49] season. I'm not saying there aren't quick games. You know, we've got a 15 minute
[11:13:51] game this tournament. Unfortunately, Spear was on the receiving end of that.
[11:13:54] That was not supposed to happen. We've got like a 19 minute game here and there.
[11:13:58] So like there are you know still the exceptions, but I think overall we're
[11:14:02] seeing longer game times. These guys spotted it. What is the product placement of the camera?
[11:14:09] It's like perfect. These guys are professionals. Yeah, I think spirit is starting to look a
[11:14:23] little better. I know they do have a stand-in, but we've mentioned before they played with
[11:14:27] him before. I don't know, I actually don't know if I... we have long games, but I feel
[11:14:36] like that's due to the level of competition. I feel like the patch still favors pretty
[11:14:40] fast gameplay. There's a lot of auras that are good right now, like the whole Roshan
[11:14:48] to Tormentor thing is still good, got a lot of negative armor heroes who can end fast,
[11:14:52] And I feel like the banner changes also help you end faster than before.
[11:14:58] I don't really know where I'm going with this point, but Largo, hell yeah.
[11:15:03] What a rush to end our day.
[11:15:05] Let's get those Largo buzz in chat.
[11:15:09] No, I agree.
[11:15:10] It's a fun hero to watch.
[11:15:11] I'm curious to see how they're going to play with it.
[11:15:14] Panto's so ready.
[11:15:16] He's like, yes.
[11:15:17] Yeah, it's my hero.
[11:15:18] I don't have to think about the rest of the draft now.
[11:15:20] He played a whole freaking musical earlier today on this hero.
[11:15:25] That's why he's ready to lock back in one more time.
[11:15:29] I mean this hero can move right?
[11:15:30] He's not guaranteed.
[11:15:32] Don't really see it being a collapse type hero.
[11:15:34] So I'm pretty sure that's a support Largo no matter what side it goes into.
[11:15:38] Timbersaw, a lot of burst damage from the Timber which is Largo likes the long drawn
[11:15:44] out fights and Timbers hoping to just chunk you down.
[11:15:48] the frog in half along with his musical instrument.
[11:15:58] I do think Ancient Apparition is one of the better heroes versus Largo.
[11:16:02] You just take out all the healing, which is a lot of the early game impact of Largo.
[11:16:08] The late game hot feet hustle and bull belly blitz are actually quite strong, but the early
[11:16:14] game is all about the heal.
[11:16:16] Yeah, getting your team around the map with the hot feet hustles really sick
[11:16:21] But you're right like during those early team fights, especially the fact that support Largo's a lot of times want to go to holy lock it
[11:16:28] Definitely shuts down that team fight potential I
[11:16:32] Was looking through like some of the unpicked unbanned heroes and stuff. There are a
[11:16:38] Absolute ton of heroes who have not been getting picked in the meta
[11:16:41] some of them like some of the most I've actually ever seen like there's less
[11:16:48] than a hundred heroes picked so far this event
[11:16:53] you weren't 92 that's pretty close no 87 picks 92 contested right still kind of
[11:17:04] close I also think to like these are best of ones so it a lot of times like as a
[11:17:10] the series goes right there's like the development in the drafting not just
[11:17:13] versus teams but like within a series itself so in this best of one group stage
[11:17:17] I'm not too surprised we don't see that and maybe as you go into the next stage
[11:17:23] and we get into like more drawn-out series will the other heroes come in
[11:17:27] though I'm looking at the unpicked heroes and I'm not sure who I maybe like a
[11:17:33] Magnus I can expect I'm a little surprised Omni Knight I suppose I feel like
[11:17:39] We were seeing some core Omni
[11:17:42] Not that long ago, but I could see a couple of these heroes entering in
[11:17:51] Where's the Pudges actually what the heck my mouth isn't doing well they need to pick Yamich's Pudge
[11:17:58] That is true. Actually Yamich is the one who was playing him a ton
[11:18:01] Disruptor coming out for Reconyx. I think in the same way the ancient Ice Blast is very annoying for Largo, the Static Storm is another one that is a pain for Largo because you want to remove Silences.
[11:18:16] So actually this hero doesn't care that much about Silences, but this is one that's on the ground and you cannot remove.
[11:18:21] We actually just saw Kling's play versus Timbersaw, and despite Timbersaw being a very strong off-laner,
[11:18:29] the nerfs did hit him, so his laning is a little worse than before.
[11:18:32] And then Kling's nerfs are not so much to his lane, but more the ridiculous reign of
[11:18:38] arrows from all the skeletons, the way they take objectives for free.
[11:18:43] That's the part that got nerfed about Kling's, but he should still be defined into Timber.
[11:18:47] We saw it last game. See if that continues here.
[11:18:52] Either of these supports would be a great pairing actually.
[11:18:54] Clockwork for more kill potential.
[11:18:57] Largo for maybe a chiller lane, you know, just remove certain abilities on you, like the Thunder Strike.
[11:19:05] I like the idea of the clockwork in the 5 position and then moving the-
[11:19:09] like keeping the Largo flex open, like for the 3 or 4.
[11:19:15] Like I said, it's not really a collapse hero, but I'm sure he's experimented with it a little bit
[11:19:36] Do you think you're gonna need some of your own share of stuns
[11:19:40] Timbersaw, doesn't really, yeah, doesn't really know to bring any of those and then Disruptors is very awkward, you know, you need, you need like a proper, proper stun here from, uh, I'd say position 4, like into the clink, I feel like you can just safely plan to creepdrag, so if you want to do, like, tusk or, yeah, tiny will work if you do tiny position 4, which oh, I guess immediately confirmed, because I could grab the storm spirit as well.
[11:20:10] well. There's not great catch for the Storm Spirit right now, but there is still a puck
[11:20:18] in the pool. There is still an Ember Spirit in the pool. And I feel like that is a very
[11:20:25] greedy Storm Spirit pick. The disruptor is supposed to dissuade this. Do you dare Huskar?
[11:20:36] I mean do you need to I guess you don't need to but don't you think that'd be a funny way to end the day huskar lago
[11:20:44] I'd be super down. I do think like
[11:20:50] Slardar might be okay
[11:20:53] Yeah, not bad. I mean, but you could still just leave Slardar open for the off lane, right?
[11:20:57] Like you could just pick Slardar here. That's true. Have it have it is like a flex. Yeah
[11:21:03] Okay, the ember to storm so good
[11:21:06] It's just way too good, and it's a good vessel game once again. We see it's one of the better matchups into tiny
[11:21:11] We saw last game even in a core tiny mid, but now you have it in the storm timbersaw and tiny
[11:21:16] There's just no reason not to pick it
[11:21:22] And he'll have the Largobah saves and healing and stuff like that to try and keep him alive
[11:21:31] So in terms of the carry matchups
[11:21:36] We saw the Wind Ranger, but that one's taken out.
[11:21:44] Abon's another one because you can't get killed by the Skeletons, that one's out.
[11:21:51] They banned Ursa themselves.
[11:21:58] Those are a lot of the best direct responses to Clinks, so now you kind of just need something
[11:22:04] that fits your own play style.
[11:22:12] Where does an interesting idea
[11:22:15] position for Muerta off Lane Largo?
[11:22:25] I guess I like don't even know
[11:22:28] What the where the man is for do we really think it's off off lane Largo
[11:22:37] Could be I mean I have nothing against off lane Largo
[11:22:42] Kind of depends on what Reconyx wants for a carry I suppose he just didn't strike me as a collapse hero really
[11:22:48] I also just don't see like super great synergy between it like you only really have is the dead shot to reposition
[11:22:55] I think you'd much rather just have like a
[11:22:57] guaranteed slow or a stun to keep him inside a frog stomp. Oh he did play it
[11:23:02] once actually I missed this game. And they banned the Huskar. I mean safely in
[11:23:12] Storm Spirit has happened so banning the Huskar does make sense.
[11:23:20] No one wants to get Huskar down to the final game.
[11:23:27] A little bit of sustenance before their last series.
[11:23:31] You gotta power up.
[11:23:35] I wish I could see what type of noodles those were.
[11:23:39] They're very bright. Probably a spicy, spicy kind.
[11:23:49] Gonna get the blood flowing.
[11:23:52] I was wondering if you could do some like uh floating with danger there.
[11:23:57] Some some extra auras to buff up the the Largo's healings would have been good underlord premier hero in that regard
[11:24:08] The jikiro is still available
[11:24:11] Yeah, you could do that. We saw the Largo jikiro lane be very strong the other day
[11:24:16] I feel like this ruptor just dies if he ever walks into Largo's catchy tongue like licky tongue
[11:24:23] simply die I mean he's you know the repulsion or whatever is actually like
[11:24:32] pretty good against certain heroes but when you're just dying to spells from
[11:24:37] range it doesn't really help you a whole lot I would really like this to be
[11:24:43] off lane Largo and then like a jacquero here shadow shaman similar off lane Largo yeah
[11:24:55] it's good catch for the ember the roots from ember are good sorry good catch for the storm
[11:25:02] the ember roots are great but we do see the guardian greaves build now from the storm
[11:25:06] spirit so you can do that zip away can't do that to the hex and the shackle so it gives
[11:25:11] you more options to catch. Of course you do have some crowd control to deal with this
[11:25:15] already in the static storm, glimpse, avalanche toss. It's not perfect, but it does help round
[11:25:21] out more catch for you. And we will get to see the off-lane Largo. I'm not excited for
[11:25:26] that.
[11:25:27] Dude, what a way to end our time here at BlastSlam. Another Largo game. Could you fast for anything
[11:25:37] more than that. Huskar to come in sooner, but besides that, I will accept the final
[11:25:44] Largo. I was worried he'd be banned for all our games. I was going to be so sad.
[11:25:50] All right, Reconyx, what are we going to do here? What carry are you planning on
[11:25:53] running into the Largo Shadow Shaman? This is going to be a difficult lane. It
[11:25:58] has to be something durable, probably something with a mobility. I mean, they
[11:26:03] could go for the Morphling because it is like a comfort pick for them. I don't
[11:26:07] He struggles in this lane
[11:26:11] Something with oh
[11:26:16] Okay, that kind of wait is it mid beast master though hold up
[11:26:20] Okay, now he's gonna go safe lane beast master
[11:26:23] This is a cool idea. I was thinking something that can also stop shackles would be nice
[11:26:28] So that like disruptor literally just can't use glimpse because if he does then they'll just commit and kill like either the disruptor or the
[11:26:35] carry. So I think if a carry had another stun then you have more options. But Beastmaster's
[11:26:40] actually just quite strong as a safe laner so you just, you could take the fight to this
[11:26:46] Shadow Shaman and this Largo. Though I still think Ketchy's like is pretty strong here
[11:26:52] to remove some of this stuff. Get that free regen. I mean I think you just killed the
[11:26:59] the disruptor like I I don't think the Beastmaster keeps the disruptor from
[11:27:04] dying so he has to be very careful with his lane position yeah you just sit in
[11:27:09] the back and when they go in the Beastmaster you you throw abilities and
[11:27:13] it's hard to go on the Beastmaster because he has all the boards in the
[11:27:16] axe spam yeah but there's still gonna be the chicken fingers and the shackles if
[11:27:22] you get shackled from like the trees and disruptor can't find them it's gonna be a
[11:27:26] rough time. Overall fun draft though from Team Spirit, another off lane Largo,
[11:27:31] Yatoro Klink's Mirel will be taking his Ember Spirit to the mid lane. Reconyx,
[11:27:37] we'll see what they can get done. Dream is on a storm which unfortunately is
[11:27:43] pretty heavily countered in this game so I'm a little bit worried about his
[11:27:47] ability to define tempo from the mid game. He's gonna need to build the Guardian
[11:27:50] grieves. So it kind of means your Timbersaw Beastmaster have to have a good sideline.
[11:27:58] Yeah, I would like to see Tiny try to help out the Storm Spirit. Because on the other side,
[11:28:03] you're gonna have a Shadow Shaman and a Clockwork who are very happy to roam over,
[11:28:07] especially if Rue plays anything like Bignum. He was traveling the world.
[11:28:11] So if your Storm has a rough game, like you said, not only is that your main playmaker to begin with,
[11:28:17] Struggling, but then we talked about the importance of the Guardian Greaves.
[11:28:21] You're slowing down that farm, can't get your Guardian Greaves on time.
[11:28:24] You're gonna keep dying to the Ember Spirit.
[11:28:28] Well, this is it. This is the final series for the Beach Stream.
[11:28:32] The final series for both these teams in the group stage.
[11:28:36] Reconyx versus Team Spirit as...
[11:28:40] Let me just jump right into this one, scouting with the board, but a free kill for collapse.
[11:28:45] It's actually a decent amount of experience more so than the gold like the gold is kind of whatever but
[11:28:52] That could factor into like an earlier level to the next than expected
[11:29:02] The remake is quite funny
[11:29:08] These guys are having fun
[11:29:10] So those all the way the board looks like it might be the only casualty everyone else seems to be playing quite safe
[11:29:19] Delul perhaps gonna try to snipe this bounty rune around the back
[11:29:25] He's got it
[11:29:28] All right, that should be three bounties. Well, I say that Panto. Yeah, he's got a clock working to secure it fairly easily
[11:29:36] Yeah, they also didn't know where the other heroes were so they were kind of scared
[11:29:40] They actually could have done that, but you know, you don't know what you don't know
[11:29:44] Don't know that yatoro is actually just sitting by his tower cutting trees. Is he actually just cutting trees?
[11:29:50] Yeah, I didn't want to deal with this actually so like part of the reason timbersaw became so popular again
[11:29:55] Is that people got better about using exposure therapy, which is when you cut trees you get mana back
[11:29:59] So just cutting down the trees yourself help limit what he can do in the lane
[11:30:06] Oh, another boar kill bottom?
[11:30:11] Another boar!
[11:30:12] They're definitely going to hit level 2 first.
[11:30:15] You gotta be careful of the catchy lick frog stomp into the shackles.
[11:30:19] Yeah.
[11:30:20] The glimpse.
[11:30:21] Alright, I mean a little bit of harassment damage here but yeah, Spirit definitely just
[11:30:28] want to play for the level 2 here especially if they're feeling like they're further ahead.
[11:30:31] Another boar kill.
[11:30:32] Another boar.
[11:30:33] Another boar.
[11:30:34] other one okay four boars are dead in this bottom lane and they have level
[11:30:40] two already in one creep have you know only three the boars died here one died
[11:30:46] mid
[11:30:48] oh there's a lot for collapse tries to find back and he didn't have the shot though
[11:30:54] he assumed a room was getting level two as well and he didn't he's too xp off yeah
[11:31:00] Yeah, a little bit of a mistake there.
[11:31:02] I went to go block the camp.
[11:31:04] Either way, you still get some damage in and the equilibrium is in an okay spot.
[11:31:09] I think you're not too upset.
[11:31:11] I mean, frankly, even if the equilibrium is not great, you're killing a ton of boars,
[11:31:15] so you're getting a lot of money.
[11:31:16] You might have, I mean, I don't know if you got the kill on the Beastmaster,
[11:31:20] but you would have done it in incredible, okay, they would have killed him before.
[11:31:23] They set it up for now, it's okay.
[11:31:25] So it doesn't work.
[11:31:26] The combination of the combo is super high damage, so they actually see the disruptor peel off to try and block some of the camps, ends up dying on the Beastmaster as a result.
[11:31:36] Glimpse is shadow shaman away just to make sure you can get the camp to spawn.
[11:31:44] The topside going, uh, not nearly as aggressive. A lot of creep dragon going on up here. No one wants to laying into the bone fletcher.
[11:31:56] the last hits.
[11:32:06] Mid lane storm versus Ember.
[11:32:13] It's definitely storm favored the first few waves.
[11:32:17] There's not much you can do on the Ember Spirit to stop him, but it definitely starts
[11:32:20] to tilt back there the way at level five.
[11:32:22] And then of course at any point later on in the game once you have like you know more points in the shackles the vessel
[11:32:29] It makes it very difficult for the star and spirit to play the game
[11:32:33] Catchy lick to remove the stacks from the Beastmaster, but blood grenade is out
[11:32:37] They're gonna try and maybe deliver the Lotus to keep collapse alive, and it does work
[11:32:42] with the shackle
[11:32:44] Yeah, decent turn around, could have played it from Rue to get on the Lotus, oop, alright,
[11:32:53] another life though.
[11:32:55] This should be a kill on to Rue, tries to pull him away but not enough there and could
[11:33:00] play from these two on the bottom lane to get some momentum back their way.
[11:33:04] It's some of the idea of the carry beast master, right, that you can fight back into this strong
[11:33:09] lane.
[11:33:10] This is a pretty big wave actually, so without the Shadow Shaman, Collapse is just having
[11:33:14] to watch this and he's still taking some damage from the axes. He's missing a lot of creeps
[11:33:20] and the tower's taking a beating for this even though it's only four minutes in.
[11:33:30] The four minute water rune is here. Clockwork helps securing the top one for the Ember Spirit.
[11:33:37] That's the storm will grab the other oh
[11:33:40] shackles
[11:33:41] Have to catch you the class almost dying here to those
[11:33:45] Axes from downtown, but they will finish it off finish the job here with room
[11:33:51] Dude this Beastmaster is doing serious work another bore now out of mana though is the issue. Oh, it's pretty cool
[11:34:00] Keeps alive actually unlike FBZ who should be falling here
[11:34:06] Uh, that's a solo kill, man.
[11:34:13] It's good.
[11:34:14] I mean, you got the chains.
[11:34:15] Even without zip, like, chains is just so strong to let you get close to these ranged
[11:34:20] heroes.
[11:34:23] That means Morrell will definitely hit level 6 in time for the power rail.
[11:34:30] Yeah, he's got it.
[11:34:32] Is Yutoro just walking him back?
[11:34:34] He does.
[11:34:35] Orblok under the tower gets the kill, takes out the Timbersaw. Incredible recognition there.
[11:34:45] Morrell has a full level advantage in the mid lane after that kill.
[11:34:50] Should guarantee the power rune for him. I think you have to try to bring supports to take it away.
[11:34:54] Like you can't let him keep to no walling as this Ember Spirit.
[11:35:00] We're gonna bring some heroes bottom though to try and punish this collapse.
[11:35:04] Getting bailed out for the moment by RU but with the tiny's rotation
[11:35:09] They will lose them
[11:35:10] Did they have glimpse? I think they used it on the
[11:35:14] Initially, but it should be back. Yeah good glimpse back collapse now in a pro problematic spot
[11:35:22] Very good movements from this bottom land it disruptor are getting a lot done with the help of the Beastmaster
[11:35:27] 6 minute power rune is here and it will spawn bottom in an Invis rune from around.
[11:35:36] Not the best but I feel like we keep seeing embers get a first Invis rune.
[11:35:43] The simulation is breaking man.
[11:35:46] Someone forgot to change this on the script.
[11:35:50] There has been a lot of Invis runes at 6th haven't there.
[11:35:53] See if you can use it the same way the last time he used it to sneak over to the wisdom
[11:35:57] shrine into a really impactful fight.
[11:36:01] We'll go for another play here.
[11:36:13] We'll see if they can manage to punish this extension.
[11:36:16] And we'll get outside of the frog, stomp another shackler, really starting to lose the damage,
[11:36:21] with the Ember spirit. Well, the damage not going to be much of an issue.
[11:36:25] Even the clink's joining through the twin gate.
[11:36:27] Yatoro will clean up the disruptor.
[11:36:30] Huge punish.
[11:36:31] And we'll see if they get the wisdom shrine clockwork here to body block him out.
[11:36:36] Got to kick him out with the clocks.
[11:36:38] He's got it, right?
[11:36:40] Oh, we waited too long.
[11:36:42] All right, dreams going to come in, gets the toss out.
[11:36:45] The law will grab the shrine.
[11:36:47] I think Panto could have got it.
[11:36:50] It was really close. I think if he uses it a little sooner and a little further out it would have worked
[11:36:55] I mean that was so that was fractions of a second, you know, there was a great effort
[11:37:02] It would have been an amazing play wisdom trying to steal while getting these kills around the map
[11:37:07] Well, not quite able to get the shackle into the catchy like but embers actually still here
[11:37:12] Yeah, he's got a six now and charge. They see the role. They're like nevermind back away guys back away
[11:37:17] Okay. That's about it though. Another chain coming up off cool down. Okay, he doesn't get it, so I think with that, they'll call the aggro.
[11:37:26] Oh, I lied. Yatoro coming through the twin gate. You know, Kari's gonna farm back here. They can't be alone.
[11:37:34] He says I kill off. I will say there's been multiple times in this off lane where ruin collapse might be on different pages, right?
[11:37:46] They haven't really been able to combo the Frog Stomp super well with the Shadow Shaman.
[11:37:53] Clap's now in some trouble, toss back under the tower, the roar will secure the kill, ends up going to Dream, which he's happy to find some kills now.
[11:38:07] FBZ, Chains interrupted by Panto.
[11:38:11] doesn't get the fall kick because the trees in the way it's or oh okay the
[11:38:20] last battery assaults it's pretty rude
[11:38:41] I think settled down we do have a 2k lead for spirit this is where I'm not
[11:38:56] sure if I think it'll speed up or slow down because technically ember is
[11:38:59] ready to go storm spirit you know kind of interested in me oh he's not doing the
[11:39:03] garden grease build actually I was about to say I think he wants to farm that up
[11:39:06] But
[11:39:10] He's just gonna deal with the roots I think that might prove to be a problem later on it
[11:39:16] We'll see how well he deals with it for sure
[11:39:18] I
[11:39:20] Do you think the ember needs to clip like just kind of finish the spear vessel and that's pretty much go time for him
[11:39:29] But clink's is having a great time just kind of farming wherever he wants already everyone's coming in here
[11:39:36] They get the shackle they will get the hex into a follow-up hex
[11:39:41] But yetoro he's behind enemy lines here scouted out by a sentry Rue looking for the shackles now onto the tiny they will get it
[11:39:48] Definitely don't escape this time
[11:39:51] collapse
[11:39:53] He's got to get his eggs man. You gotta do what you gotta do
[11:40:00] Try to throw his remnant here go through
[11:40:03] Well, it's remnants still going at you that I never realized that it still moves like that so slowly
[11:40:10] It can move through it, but I think not if you're standing on the edge, right?
[11:40:16] Well, the thing is it's because
[11:40:18] Nice Largova
[11:40:20] It's because no, that's the wrong alarm. What's the alarm? Oh good, but yeah, there you go. That's the right one for that
[11:40:26] It's cuz for those of you that don't know kinetic field actually just set your move speed to zero
[11:40:33] But apparently it must be like zero point zero zero zero one because that Redmond is still moving
[11:40:38] Oh, I'm not even gonna run to it
[11:40:41] Who topside?
[11:40:43] He's through here on dream looking for an opening route
[11:40:48] Gonna get a moment to maybe survive
[11:40:51] But forces them to stick around a little bit too long and now the storm spirits out of resources
[11:40:56] A double kill for Yatoro on the Glinks.
[11:40:59] Talk about a guy who's already having a good game.
[11:41:02] That is a desolator done at 11 minutes and 30 seconds.
[11:41:06] I'm not going to have to pick between deso or shard timing.
[11:41:16] Yeah, he's final thoughts.
[11:41:17] You got to step back away from the kinetic field
[11:41:18] and then throw the remnant.
[11:41:20] Then it'll work.
[11:41:21] Can't be on the remnant.
[11:41:22] Or sorry, on the kinetic field.
[11:41:26] I feel like spirits in control, but actually a 2k lead 1k lead is a less than I thought
[11:41:32] With how it was going
[11:41:34] Earlier, I thought it was gonna be pretty rough, but really nice static storm war comes out
[11:41:38] We're who's gonna try and buy him some space, but a glimpse
[11:41:42] Just a damage for the Beastmaster
[11:41:44] Overwhelming is it's now gonna be a double kill for that storm spirit up to six charges for himself
[11:41:50] Which he needs he had a little bit of a rough game to start
[11:41:53] But he's definitely recovering gets himself a little region rune the question is gonna get away from this now
[11:41:59] Yeah, he will be able to
[11:42:01] He'll turn this into potentially a third kill now on to the clock work killings brief for dream with the region rune at the tail
[11:42:08] Into the fight. He's having a great time now
[11:42:11] That's the work actually didn't they change the way like some invulnerability stuff
[11:42:16] Invulnerability targeting works like with hookshot and stuff. Yeah
[11:42:20] I don't know if you can hook shot a ball lightning storm spirit.
[11:42:28] I think you can go through him like if you hit something else and well, I'm not sure.
[11:42:35] I feel like he's trying.
[11:42:36] He may have just been timing it like as he zips onto the rune, but a lot of times you
[11:42:40] zip past the rune and just like, well, I'll test that later, do a little science studies.
[11:42:49] Alright, Clink's going bottom. Wants to put this Deso to use. Looking behind the tower.
[11:42:55] Won't find him yet, but I think they got a little glimpse of him.
[11:42:59] They have a sentry here. They know he's here now.
[11:43:01] Yeah, they know he's here for sure. They're going to play the songs to try and catch the boy behind the tower,
[11:43:07] and they will very easily do that. They drop the circuit wars instantly, Dad.
[11:43:11] They'll donate the tiny as well. In comes FBZ. Inside the tree line is where he thrives,
[11:43:15] But the damage from the clink's it's adding up. It's a little overwhelming
[11:43:18] But the shot the jump in from the storm spirit to find the exchange shadow shaman will end up dying dream
[11:43:26] Running out of resources here doesn't a little bit more manner to get to the low ground and he will survive
[11:43:31] But ember spirit cleaning up the disruptor a
[11:43:36] Two for four with a really aggressive dive bottom pays off for spirit because these were desostax
[11:43:42] I think Collapse could have played the healing song a little bit more, it might have kept
[11:43:49] his support alive.
[11:43:52] But overall still a very good fight, even though you lose the clink, you get the charges,
[11:43:56] you get the tower.
[11:43:57] I think you're pretty happy with it.
[11:44:00] Still a very close game.
[11:44:01] I mean Storm Spirit has massively recovered, he got solo killed early in the game and now
[11:44:07] Now he is a thousand to gold, almost 800 gold in front of the Ember spirit.
[11:44:13] And he keeps gathering those galvanized charges.
[11:44:18] I was worried about being able to make plays around the storm spirit, but it's good enough.
[11:44:32] They've been getting some static storms in.
[11:44:34] Getting the Roars.
[11:44:36] He does have the eggs. I want to see if you can find a kill you can maybe try a fast roche
[11:44:43] You know Clink's is interested in a fast roche if you let him
[11:44:47] Not interested in the shard bell on Yotaro because he just went dragon lance
[11:44:51] Don't usually see this
[11:44:53] some of these fights have been
[11:44:56] Like they're able to get on top of them in a way right they have they have roar
[11:45:00] They have Timbersaw that storm spirit they can close the gap
[11:45:02] So maybe feeling like he needs to contribute more damage wise
[11:45:08] Instead of just farming and so he's opting for
[11:45:13] You know taking up a little bit and playing maybe from a little bit of a safer distance
[11:45:21] Largo actually just ripped through that ancient stack that was fast power the eggs
[11:45:26] We're walking in aggressive static storm immediately they'll get the kill
[11:45:38] question is what else can they find well that vessel onto the timber saw he is
[11:45:44] falling very quickly roar does come in there's gonna be the jump in from the
[11:45:48] storm spirit as well and you Toro it's the deck Beastmaster stuck inside with
[11:45:53] the vessel can't get out of these cars and collapse burning them down dude he's
[11:45:57] doing so much work on the Largo now Miro looking for more jumping oh off the
[11:46:03] mark with the flare he'll survive good TP out speeding in
[11:46:09] lost my vision catchy lick they're gonna call it off with that catapult here too
[11:46:15] so this is a tier one tower down the Largo game of chatting up in a longer
[11:46:21] fight well that's a voice I haven't heard in a while this one's for Baboka
[11:46:35] Baboka Largo is probably hilarious to watch maybe he actually just goes first
[11:46:42] item access support I don't know what he does I know it'd be funny though
[11:46:51] I
[11:46:54] Storm getting out of that fight was pretty massive. He was very close to dying
[11:46:59] But we're seeing like you know in the autumn. Yeah. Oh, did they?
[11:47:04] Yeah, he was going I think he actually messed up the zip
[11:47:06] I think he had a window to zip away, but he did like a really short zip and then a
[11:47:11] Hey, I see a Largo song got him. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. You're right
[11:47:17] They did a pretty good job at finding Yatoro in the fights, like getting on top of the
[11:47:24] clinks and getting the kill.
[11:47:25] I think that gets a lot more difficult once he has his VKB, so maybe not really opting
[11:47:31] to farm too much here, whilst playing with more active bottom lane, Static Storm connection
[11:47:36] collapse on the Largo.
[11:47:40] No chance of escape.
[11:47:42] been putting this static storm to use every time it's up. Yeah it's been really good.
[11:47:49] I'm not shadow shounen, might be a little overkill, but he is a lot of the control that limits what
[11:47:54] your heroes can do. I do think you need to catch a core in it as well, like this ember or this lago.
[11:48:12] of the
[11:48:27] one-row one-off. Yeah the bling,
[11:48:31] he's pretty big.
[11:48:37] But stormed in a pretty good job of dodging this one out as Largo is going to come back into the bottom lane.
[11:48:41] Do they go for Roshan?
[11:48:48] Like we're just coming up on the Tormentor timing, a little over 19 minutes, like Shadow
[11:48:54] Shaman can ward drop it, they're going to go for it.
[11:48:59] And Largo when he gets here does add a lot of extra damage like you were saying into
[11:49:03] this so they should be able to get this before they can contest, especially with the clink.
[11:49:10] the game has never stopped popping up.
[11:49:15] Scan comes in, but too late.
[11:49:16] Aegis into the hands of the clinks.
[11:49:20] You've been able to get your hands on them in these fights
[11:49:22] and kill them previously.
[11:49:24] But now with that Aegis, it's very difficult to do it twice.
[11:49:28] Tormentor now definitely on the table
[11:49:31] as we get the 20-minute mark here.
[11:49:33] She's always not here, and there's no tier one to teleport to.
[11:49:36] I mean, if they get the storm, that
[11:49:37] be absolutely massive. I think Tora cut side of him. He's got a VKB. All the shackles though from
[11:49:46] Rue, they've got him! They thought with the VKB he'd be safe but Rue, his blink dagger, they didn't know.
[11:49:54] I think they were hoping to fight so he didn't want to burn too much mana but I think that's a
[11:49:58] case you just got to zip on out. That's going to give over a free Tormentor to Panto. That's a pretty
[11:50:07] pretty good one to have actually the extra vision in these fights is always useful to
[11:50:10] have especially when it comes to finding a storm spirit he's trying to zip away.
[11:50:19] And the Beastmaster is finding his own farm but this Aegis and the Shadow Shalmin controls
[11:50:26] make things a little bit more difficult.
[11:50:28] got aggressive movement here from your toro to try and find somebody
[11:50:37] ember spirit doesn't quite get the chains it's the bore instead taking one for the
[11:50:44] team or overseas in your dream they have the blink hex again they're gonna go for it
[11:50:51] blink hex into the shackles from the other side of the tree line and they've
[11:50:54] Got him a second time.
[11:50:59] Great scouting in from the clinks.
[11:51:03] Bottom bottom finding the little.
[11:51:07] Is that is like just going to pull him into a.
[11:51:15] Huge pick offs here for spirit is the.
[11:51:18] Fortification is going to come out counter fort now as they want to try and get
[11:51:22] This mid tower with the help of the shaman wards
[11:51:33] They're just set up here. How do you contest this man if the shadow shaman is here?
[11:51:37] Would you know this one you don't contest? Yeah, you let that one go
[11:51:43] They need jikroy and he doesn't want to join till he finishes bkb so
[11:51:48] They're waiting for that
[11:51:50] I mean, he has it now.
[11:51:51] They have to connect on it once he does.
[11:51:54] He's keeping home right away.
[11:51:55] He's picked it up.
[11:51:56] You got to find something with this, because the game's getting a little bit out of hand.
[11:51:59] Yeah, worth-wise, it looks okay, but there's only so much momentum you can lose before it
[11:52:04] feels really bad.
[11:52:06] We were talking about the strong spirit getting his game recovered.
[11:52:12] We've seen now two decks back to back that have slowed him down quite a bit, even after
[11:52:17] he finished the BKB.
[11:52:18] He hasn't had even a chance to use it.
[11:52:21] I'm curious if the Shadow Shaman just goes straight BKB himself.
[11:52:25] This is one of those games where it's actually kind of sick.
[11:52:27] It's Orro jumps in on the high ground.
[11:52:28] There's going to be the roar, but Jekoroy, does he have the damage to do it alone?
[11:52:31] No, get the static storm.
[11:52:33] That's going to help out quite a bit.
[11:52:36] No Largo to help here is Vittoro.
[11:52:39] Now in the danger zone, he's going to be forced upon the BKB.
[11:52:42] Nice burning barrage, but they'll continue to chase, taking down Panto.
[11:52:45] Ripple kill for the Beastmaster as Yutoro
[11:52:49] Now in a rough spot will get dispelled though by the Largo but the chase continues glints back to the other side trying to get
[11:52:55] Helped out of not of damage coming in from this clink's from this Largo, but
[11:53:00] Five versus two and now out of resources. This is as good a fight as Reconyx could have asked for
[11:53:10] And absolutely you keep chasing right?
[11:53:15] Oh, he finishes this!
[11:53:19] Nice low to storm.
[11:53:24] Spirit did not expect the DKB to be done on the Beastmaster, that was exactly, oh, I find
[11:53:28] it just ruptured kill at least in return.
[11:53:32] They invaded that triangle without the full team, we see Collapse enter quite late, so
[11:53:38] no Larob available to save his teammates as they get jumped and I think they just weren't
[11:53:44] expecting it like oh Reconyx isn't gonna fight us you know we still have ages
[11:53:47] we're still really strong but Reconyx has been buying time for this BKB and
[11:53:51] that's exactly what they needed to find with it
[11:53:57] we got a game now I was worried I was getting out of hand it was getting a
[11:54:04] little scary but yeah the BKB roar and covered by the static storm Ember's
[11:54:11] Spirit cannot do much about that. It's a very good place there. I mean they were so close to scouting it out on the clinks
[11:54:19] Yeah jumping passing was great. They had a they had an observer up there earlier to help give them vision for that fight
[11:54:29] And a lot of these fights have gone well for
[11:54:32] Spirit off of Rue finding the blink hex
[11:54:34] Shackle on Storm or some similar target. So the fact that he only showed up late to try to help
[11:54:41] But you know can't really get them out of the static storm. Yeah
[11:54:46] Blank roar on to the clock work not really gonna stand a chance there at all
[11:54:57] And he rose the mid tier one is still standing now it's now it's free
[11:55:04] They're looking for Ember. They've got the static storm.
[11:55:12] Oh my goodness, that was close.
[11:55:16] BKB out from Jikroyz actually runs into Rue on the Shadow Shaman, and your dream's going to come in to make sure that he dies.
[11:55:22] There's Flaps coming through now, as well, a lot of damage from the Clink.
[11:55:26] You committed your BKB on the support now, you might regret it.
[11:55:29] Avalanche comes through, there's your static storm, but Claps is the BKB?
[11:55:32] He's healing himself, he's running them down trying to find these other heroes
[11:55:37] and he's doing a ton of damage, takes out the disruptor.
[11:55:41] Searing chains gives the sword spirit, the toss, the avalanche, but it's all
[11:55:46] collapsed dude. I mean triple kill for your Thor, but let's be honest this was all the
[11:55:51] Largo baby. The sword is available, the Lotus sword for FBZ available, the Lotus though, plus the
[11:56:00] damage from the clink ends up being an ultra kill for the clink's oh my goodness
[11:56:07] time for some Laura yeah Largova guitar times if I've ever seen that is that is
[11:56:14] some insane gameplay from collapse the avalanche toss missy this fight could
[11:56:20] have gone very differently if that embryo gets controlled up in the back
[11:56:22] there but you take out who's been a huge pain for control but clink's is set up
[11:56:29] on the high ground, you've already used your roll run to support so you can't really fight
[11:56:32] these guys. And then this is where that healing comes out, things that BKB can't finish the
[11:56:37] job because a lot of the damage is through spells, right? You went for this Beastmaster
[11:56:42] carry, it's not the traditional right-click type scaling, so once the BKBs have come out
[11:56:47] for Spirit, they're able to avoid a lot of damage, a lot of static storm control that
[11:56:52] has been getting killed up to this point. Can't stop the songs from being played anymore.
[11:56:59] I
[11:57:04] Got the shark to I didn't realize he bought this on collapse now. We can buff up his ember spirit to
[11:57:12] Pretty nice. I mean you mentioned right the
[11:57:17] Talents on ember synergize really well with Largo
[11:57:20] Yeah, the Croco genius health DPS really strong. We're gonna see my goodness instant hex out as well from
[11:57:27] Rue does manage to find the tiny the shackles is enough another follow-up here
[11:57:31] They get the timber saw no load of sword to protect them and they will burn him down three dead behind the tier two tower
[11:57:37] An incredible dive there from spirit. I
[11:57:42] Can't believe it took me 28 minutes to realize the incredible
[11:57:48] shackle synergy with Largo thanks to this frog cosmetic
[11:57:52] Frog power. Here's the first frog. Where's the second frog? Where is he?
[11:57:59] He's farming on the other side of the map. Look, that's why he's getting away here. You need the two frogs together.
[11:58:15] Well, now a 10,000 gold there. I mean, we haven't really seen
[11:58:18] Like too much of a gold advantage this game like there was some early movement from spirit
[11:58:24] But kind of shut down from her conics in that like 15 to 20 minute mark
[11:58:28] But now they've really blown this game wide open off the back of the BKB collapse
[11:58:34] And now they have BKB clean I mean you've had BKB clings for a while
[11:58:37] But he's got a finished data list level 20 talent now online, which is a massive boost in damage for him
[11:58:46] Second row Sean
[11:58:48] Let me drop the wards
[11:58:54] Doesn't look like I mean we're constantly to smoke maybe try and find the fight but
[11:59:00] That is gonna be very risky into this ages
[11:59:04] How have you see them split up which spirit is all moving together?
[11:59:10] They're trying to see if anyone will come back mid
[11:59:13] to defend this
[11:59:15] Spears calling the bluff. They're like, why would we have to go defend a tier two and we could just take your barracks?
[11:59:19] Yeah, they have to come home before we do waves pushing
[11:59:30] There's the banner appropriately put back
[11:59:36] And no need to let it
[11:59:38] No, no need to place it on the tower like some of the games we saw earlier. That's why yatoros let go
[11:59:45] Alright, there goes Spaii.
[11:59:49] They got the tier 3 though.
[11:59:53] That's the hard part to break.
[11:59:54] Once that's down, it's a lot easier to move into the area.
[11:59:58] Ooh, especially if you find this Amplify Damager on top.
[12:00:05] That's a nice one.
[12:00:06] Honestly, I'd give it to the Ember Spirit in these fights, but it could be really good
[12:00:13] with the Croke a genius buff on him as well. Yeah.
[12:00:20] We'll be rejoining his team top for the tormentor
[12:00:23] and then probably looking for another gank here.
[12:00:26] Shard will go to Rue.
[12:00:31] And then Ryan back to bottom.
[12:00:33] He just came to the tormentor or through the twin gate for some emotional support.
[12:00:39] Support the homies. It's important.
[12:00:43] Final outer tower this way if you do win a big fight you can go for the full
[12:00:54] Megas this clink says very low on mana interesting wraparound attempt and they
[12:01:06] will get the clockwork to start things off now you need to run the engage from
[12:01:13] Spirit not super easy with the clockwork missing, but you still have root you still got back shadow shaman if he happens to find
[12:01:20] The disruptor will jump in they get the ember spirit
[12:01:24] You get a pop the BKB the damage tiny instantly dies trick for him with the roar with his own BKB trying his best here to get away
[12:01:31] But morale will chase him down the shadow shaman gets the wardrobe onto the backside and up onto the high ground
[12:01:37] They go hex onto the timbersaw the shackles there and collapse dude
[12:01:41] Dude, just, just playing his songs the whole time under the BKBs, like whatever man, my
[12:01:46] team will chase you down, I'm healing you up, doing extra damage.
[12:01:50] It's just the Largo show man.
[12:01:53] And now that they finished that Tier 2 tower, the whole base is open to you, you just deso
[12:01:58] on the clink, making short work at these buildings.
[12:02:02] Frost's Desperate, I thought you had enough time on Aegis, like if you wanted to play
[12:02:05] a safety back out, but they just hang in that forest and see like, yeah, they, they all
[12:02:09] Commit we can still do it. We we have a lot of damage here our position is really good
[12:02:14] We don't even need that career with the the items on it forget it in your dream. No, you can't defend the base
[12:02:19] He's like out pushing lanes, but there is the final barracks. So he's gonna come home
[12:02:25] One last four to five
[12:02:27] You're gonna have to buy back you want to defend this though, and that feels really weird when you're down
[12:02:33] Gonna go for it. I
[12:02:35] mean
[12:02:36] What do you really have left at this point murrell is protected by a lotus orb you can't roar him right now?
[12:02:42] And that will be the mega creeps for spirit clockwork looking for the hook shot doesn't quite get it
[12:02:48] I think with that spirit might back away, but also
[12:02:52] Feeling confident. He's still have that asius for another minute here
[12:02:56] Okay, and someone's calling the retreat surely right clockwork so guys, please. I don't have the ults
[12:03:02] How close are we to the shaman wards?
[12:03:07] Imagine they got you soon.
[12:03:09] Seven seconds.
[12:03:10] Okay.
[12:03:11] They need them.
[12:03:12] Here for a while.
[12:03:13] Garen's a work here with the skeletons.
[12:03:16] The Toro claims the first.
[12:03:18] Now looking for the other.
[12:03:20] All five heroes alive on the reconnaissance.
[12:03:21] This is the last chance you're gonna find.
[12:03:22] Did you get on top of the Ember Spears BKB at the ready, but he's gonna be able to survive
[12:03:26] with that now turning around.
[12:03:28] The remnants just destroyed these heroes.
[12:03:31] Here's the reflected roar with the Lotus Orb and an amazing hoodshot from Pantel.
[12:03:37] Just intercepts them as they head back to the base and that's going to be Gigi's
[12:03:42] spirit walking away with the victory here versus Reconyx ending their run here in this
[12:03:49] group stage.
[12:03:50] Pretty dang well.
[12:03:52] Not where they maybe would want it to be, but a good comeback to form in this final day.
[12:03:58] I got to see more lago, you know, we're all happy, crowd favorite.
[12:04:05] I hear it doesn't look as excited for winning that game, I got to say.
[12:04:09] They're very much still focused up, you know, and it's true, right?
[12:04:14] For winning this game, you're not really eliminated or making it to anything, you just need to
[12:04:18] keep improving and they know they're not in the form they want to be, whether or not they're
[12:04:23] like in that bottom section or midsection.
[12:04:26] So they're just going to discuss, you know, what do we do right? What do we do wrong?
[12:04:29] Should that game be easier? Did we mess up anywhere?
[12:04:32] These guys are, they're in it for the tournament win.
[12:04:36] Their reactions kind of show that.
[12:04:39] Yeah, very, very good stuff from them.
[12:04:40] I mean, the, that line between the, you know, the bottom four, you know,
[12:04:45] there's going to be multiple teams sitting at five and six.
[12:04:49] Just as we're going to have multiple teams probably sitting at the top at seven and four.
[12:04:52] So there's a lot still to be decided with just one game left here on the a stream
[12:04:58] But it's been a fun. It's been a really fun group stage
[12:05:01] It's nice to see spirit come back strong in this final day because they had a rough start to it
[12:05:05] For conics though, man, I feel bad for these guys because they finish one in ten. They're not knocked out
[12:05:11] Right. No team knocked out here in the group stage
[12:05:14] But it's gonna it's it means you've really got to try and fix what you know
[12:05:19] the different things that have been going wrong, whether that be, I don't really
[12:05:22] necessarily think it's the draft, but they're getting kind of outplayed a
[12:05:26] little bit and best of threes, I think you're less likely to like surprise an
[12:05:33] opponent. I think the better team usually is going to come out ahead in a
[12:05:36] best of three, which makes me a little worried for them in the playoffs here.
[12:05:49] Yeah, I agree.
[12:05:56] It is the step up from
[12:06:00] Making it through your regional like qualifiers into this international stage. So it's uh, I don't know
[12:06:06] It's not too crazy that they were that this is where they are and they have a one more shot here
[12:06:11] But these like best of threes to you know, they make a crazy crazy run crazy surprise people. Yeah
[12:06:16] Yeah, well, that's gonna do it here for us on the B stream of blast slam the group stage coming to an end
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