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You hear that kind of music?
How can you not be excited?
We're back for Blast Landsic's second day of the group stage here.
stage madness, best of ones all around. And Winter, we already had so many pretty unexpected
turns of events yesterday across the matchups. Today we're diving into a whole new set of 22
more best of ones and lucky lucky us we got some really good games ahead of us at least here on the
B stream. But of course if you're just joining us and you don't know what's going on let me
walk you through it. Winter, I think Slam has shown us a format like we really haven't ever
seen before in the history of Dota 2.
A lot of upsets, a lot of surprises, a lot of interesting strategies coming up.
Everyone is battling to show who understands the new patch better and
it produced a lot of very very interesting games yesterday.
Yeah, I think the biggest thing for us is the fact that it's all best of ones, right?
And because of that, there's not much room for adaptation.
It's always about what kind of ideas you have coming into the tournament.
That's what you were talking about the most winter.
this week one, where every single team plays a best of one against every other team, it's
all about your initial idea, what you have coming into it, and only later on in the tournament,
the top six teams will have the privilege of making it to Malta in person in the Blast
Studio and facing off in Best of Fives, which is just going to be crazy to watch.
What else is crazy to watch is our standings, because I think if we look at the standings
at the start, you see the 12 teams, I think you got some pretty good expectations of how
things will go. In fact, the way that the teams are organized right now, you probably
might think this is how, you know, it's going to end up something like this. But if we
see what actually happened throughout the course of yesterday, we had so many different
upsets, OG 4 and 0, Mouse, Spirit, Yandex 1 and 2. I mean, Liquid and Falcons were
struggling a little bit as well but this is certainly not what we expected at all.
Yeah for some of the teams like Yandex, Spirit especially, both of those teams they were coming
off like a really hot streak like a couple of months ago. They've been playing well and right
now in the new patch that they seem like they've very lost their footing including Maus you know
I think those three teams they were looking like the teams that understood Dota really well
two months ago and now with the patch everything kind of is in the air. You see OG doing really
well glad to see our SEA representatives up there and we have extreme gaming seemingly also
figured something out because they didn't really look very strong last last two weeks when they
were playing the qualifiers in China and Navi is something that I I know you personally
expected them to do well but I didn't really expected them to do this well so let's see if
they can actually keep things going here in the in the games today. Yeah we didn't get
the chance to watch them on the B stream but Na'Vi a team near and dear to my heart how can you
not root for those plucky kids you know they are definitely I want to say the next generation
maybe they're gonna step up and become the next big thing this could be their opening to
something good here this is a team that has made it to the land stages of some of the slams
in the past but just haven't really been able to perform when it matters the most
let's see whether they can turn things towards their direction for now three ones start really
nicely for them. But speaking of Yandex and Spirit, these two teams that had good headway
for at least the past few months, they're coming into the first matchup of the day with a bit
of kids and misses, right? One and two, not really the score that you expect from them
so far. Like Yandex dropping a game versus Heroic and OG, that makes sense, right?
Because it's clear that they're the top of the game right now. But losing against
Heroic, I think in the fashion that they did, that was the first game that we
covered of them yesterday, it just felt like they hadn't fully woken up yet. But maybe
day two they've warmed up a bit better now.
Yeah they seem to have this problem of balancing out the grid that they have in their line-up.
In the games at least that we watched yesterday, they were really greedy with the line-up,
they were having some sort of try call strategy. And in one of the games it just didn't
really work out because Dota is in a patch where the game is very very fast paced.
There's a lot going on in the first 20 minutes of the game.
You're talking about auras, you're talking about heroes,
fighting at Tormentor, you need to be ready to take that huge fight,
a minute 20, and then the Roshan after that.
So if you play greedy, if you have three cores that need a lot of time,
they need to be ready, maybe only at 25 minutes,
then you're going to have a lot of problems in a year.
Yeah, I think that's why Saksa kind of fits this team so well, right?
The S in Saksa stands for sacrificial, at least in this game,
team, this team feel like a lot of the times he's the one just kind of running in giving his calls the information and setting up crazy team fights.
He's been a key part of their success.
But on Flipside, we have Team Spirit who are operating for the next few events without them being later.
Laugh. Now I feel like when it comes to the discussion around spirit, everyone's always lapping up collabs and your Toro.
People generally leave Laugh on the back burner, right?
He's kind of that space creating mid that sometimes has to take a hit for his other two calls to Satsi
And you were telling me in the games that you watch a spirit, Merell seems to fit that mold as well
Yeah, they are very very similar players. They
Players that are willing to take the hit for the team, sacrifice their own game
They're even in a draft. They don't really care about, you know, not getting the priority pick as a mid laner
They play for the side lane course, collapse, and your throw. So I think they're both very similar
And they also both have similar weakness in Malakir and they're both not very good in the lane, same goes for Meryl.
So sometimes you see him falling behind in certain bad matchups. I think he needs some time to learn how to adapt towards the worst matchups.
But I think if you give him some time, he might be able to deal with them better and he is going to be able to rotate and help the side lanes more.
Yeah, absolutely. We'll see whether Meryl can step up to the plate spirit, not really starting the way that they had hoped for so far.
one to two across the board, I mean, they lost to mouse and they lost to liquid.
So I, you know, given what we've seen from mouse and liquid so far,
I don't know whether that bodes well for them, but at the same time,
you know, Winter, you already mentioned, it's quite a chaotic setup, right?
All these best of ones, the flurry of games in one day.
I feel like even in sort of more regular formats that we see,
in between the best of threes, even if you're playing two best of threes in a day,
you have a bit of time to take a break, maybe have a look at what some of these other teams are doing.
I'm not sure how much time these teams even have to watch their opponents in their games.
At most, maybe you see a screenshot of the draft, maybe you see a highlight,
maybe your coach spots something out, and then shows it to you.
Speaking of coach, Spirit, ever since they lost Silent, it's felt a bit up and down, right?
I don't know whether it's noticeable yet, the effects aren't clear,
but, you know, losing a voice like Silent, that's got to play a really big part.
And they always feel like they need a lot of games to get in shape.
Yesterday I've been telling you about the formats of the tournament.
We've been talking about some teams being good at shorter formats, some teams being good at playing more games.
I think Spirit falls in the category of teams that are being good at when there is a longer format,
when you get to play more games and to figure things out.
Yeah, let's see whether Spirit can adapt here though. Their slam results have been pretty hit or miss so far.
maybe they can change their fate around but the stats show a little bit of
something else though winter because at least in recent history Yandex seemed
to have spirits number not only did Yandex defeat spirit multiple times at
Dream League to eventually win Dream League season 27 prior to that at
Fissure playground Yandex were able to beat spirit as well just seems like
maybe a bad match up here for spirit I'm not too sure why though I know
I'm going to tell you why. Spirit is a late game team with your Toro. They can play fast some games
but generally they like to take things at a slower pace and
Yandex is a team that goes all green, you know
So if you play slow against a team that is more greedy than you, guess what? You're gonna lose the game more or less
So you think Yandex can outgreet Spirit and that's why Spirit struggles?
Spirit should actually try to switch their gears, you know
I know that they can play fast, but generally they are more comfortable playing a slower pace game going into late game
But I think against this open they shouldn't try to do that. They should try to actually play fast
Yandex struggles against teams that play fast
We saw that yesterday heroic going into a ball up line up with Chen Viper opening picks
Rolling over Yandex before they could respond because Yandex managed to recover decently throughout the day
See what the options are here. Trian protector taken out of respect
Blue Master because the viewer is banned. So Blue Master is very high priority right now.
They should be opening up with the Blue Master I think since they already chosen to remove.
I think Shadow Demon is also a pretty big counter to the Blue Master,
the purge and the disruption and being annoying. So all the bans are pretty good for Blue Master.
Is there anything else that can punish Blue Master though? Like you still pick it
9 and the lane is not being able to do. I think I guess just in general.
In general.
He tends to struggle I think against heroes that can kill his split, you know like smash damage heroes like Sven for example
Gyro, you know this sort of hero.
But Weaver in general is the hardest hero for him to deal with because you can never kill him and he kills your split with the
Bugs easily.
they have opted to go for the Viper. So I think a pretty high wind rate here, you
were showing me some stats earlier today about Viper being 75% wind rate.
Yeah, we have to pull that up again. I saw this, you mean second? I know what I'm saying.
It was 75, I remember. You said it was 75.
Yeah, it's definitely one of the winners of the draft.
You see.
Just...
And where is it?
Oh, we chat a lot I guess.
Okay.
I'll find it.
I can't find it. Never mind.
I'm pretty sure Viper was one of the heroes that has a very high win rate after the first day of the Blast Land.
What makes you think he's like...
Why do you think he's so strong at the moment?
He got nerfed but he's still a very flexible hero.
You can put him in all three lanes.
I think the way you play the hero...
Why conceptually Viper is Buster is because he's a lane laner and he can flash farm.
Traditionally if you look at the history of Dota, heroes that are good in the lane have to farm a lot slower than the other heroes.
Otherwise, you win your lane and you farm so quickly, so who can keep up with you?
I think Viper kind of feels like that type of hero right now.
You can win the lane with like maybe 2 points in the poison and then you take your Nether Toxin later and then you farm really quickly.
So you have a lead from the lane and then you still continue to accrue the lead later, you know
So I think that is the issue of why this hero is so damn strong right now
They're gonna be too much
Yeah, they're gonna pick a center to kind of counter right so you can run away with a standing
So I think that's a decent idea against the viper
And you can obviously build auras as well to deal with the viper the pipe especially important
But it sounds a bit half-baked right if your answer against something is to run away from it
reposition okay maybe not run up not just reposition you know kind of a little bit
oh do you look at yandex look at yandex they're like yo that heroic draft
yesterday that was pretty hype let's steal it for ourselves what was the third
hero it was it was some melee post four right it was Marci right yeah Marci Chen
Ma Xi Chen Viper into what I believe was a...
I don't even remember at this point, I think.
Hite Hunter?
Hite Hunter and then Biscord.
Yeah, it was the Blade Mail Tire Hunter.
Now we've won them the game and right now...
Yeah, I thought we'll be seeing Tire Hunter.
Mars would be nice against Centaur so you cannot run away.
What's the concept behind this Shadow Sharman coming out from Spirit?
I mean, I can understand that Saksa really likes it and they're like kind of snatching it away.
I mean it's just a lane secure, so you pick a center without knowing your lane matchup.
You don't know if you're laning into Viper, so it's best to pick a position for Hero that can just secure the lane.
So they go for the pass instead.
Pass Chen also a very very strong duo.
I would say this is actually stronger in the early game compared to Masi.
I guess Maasi is also strong, but you need to farm a lot of Maasi.
Some situations you can be less reliable as Maasi.
I like to train with Toss more because of the tag team.
You can take Roshan and Tormorter quickly with tag team.
That's what Maasi doesn't really give you.
I mean Toss in general, I think it seems to be the more flexible support hero.
There are a lot more pools than he has, right?
You can deal with different situations that your opponent has drafted and you can punish
people when they have a really greedy side laner that you roam around and you pressure.
If you compare that to a Shaman on position 4, it doesn't really allow you to have that
dynamic feeling in a game where you have a lot of options to make different plays
in a game.
But he's very very strong in the lane.
Taz is not as strong as Shadow Shaman in the lane.
But we're gonna see Spirit here picking up the bounty which is always been considered a counter towards the Chen you just follow him around
So depending on where the Chen goes and yeah, Sniper here
This is actually a very good hero with the two supports Shaman and bounty hunter because they kind of like to
Play nearer and up front and Sniper just hides behind and he's given vision by the bounty and also the Shaman to set up
for kills for him and you also have a really really good match up into the mid
viper if I put actually is going to be made and now Yandex have to decide if
they're gonna go down there out or they can pick something to counteract the
snipe but I think the Mars is just going to be a very very good pick here
it counters both sniper and center it should be something that they are
strongly considering at the moment it's not banned at the moment would give
them a lot of team fight control and lock down that Yandex are lacking at
At the moment, all they have is the tusk to do the heavy lifting.
And we do know it's Yandex's style.
There's the Mars that comes out. Perfect call there, Winter.
18 Mars into this lineup seems pretty tough to deal with.
Yeah, this sniper...
Every time you're 16, 17 and here, like, 9, 10, you're gonna be like...
Praying that there's no counter coming on 18, right?
But Mars is just too good of a pick to pass up here for Yandex.
So they're gonna have to just re-bolt a couple of carries here.
Make sure the mask gets a crystal.
I need to stop you right there, Winter, because then I have to ask.
These guys, they're all pro players.
They've played millions of games of Sniper, millions of games of Mask.
At this point, when you're 17 as Sniper and the Mask is still in the pool,
surely on Spirit, you know that Yandex are going to pick this, right?
Yeah, but I think the logic behind this is they feel like,
if they want Sniper and they don't get it now, they won't get it at 24.
I think that's my logic.
But they are still okay with taking the sniper into the mass, you think the spirit are fine with this?
I mean, they must be fine with this.
Because it feels like ass.
Yeah, it definitely feels dangerous, you know, to pick it there, but they clearly think that
if we leave it to 24, we won't be able to get it, so why not just pick it now, you know?
They think that it's more bad though, but I don't necessarily think that it's good
what they did, but we just want to see how the game plays out and how they used
the last pick to kind of solidify everything.
They need a carry that can kind of help the sniper and play for the sniper, you know, something that is done, or something that has a way to keep the sniper alive in the team fights, you know.
Oh, that look like. What kind of heroes are we? I mean, this off of all of these guys are really recently into Mars as well.
I think they need a melee hero. Like some L, Life's Theater, Tide of the Hero. That's not also as a badden. A badden is, I think, perfect for this game.
you can shield him so that he doesn't die to the spear arena combo.
It's pretty useful I think throughout the game.
So that would be a hero I would be looking out for you know as team spirit
and Yandex decides to ban out Kess and Moffling.
Those are two heroes that are really good against Mars in the lead.
So they are choosing to protect Mars instead of banning out heroes that
would fit the overall composition of team spirit.
So they are taking a very different approach here.
I mean there's also chances Viper goes to pause one and you pick yourself a new mid right?
Yeah, I think that might be the case because my Viper Force 1 against Mothling seems like a terrible idea
So since they are banning out Mothling, it might indicate that the Viper is going to be a carry here
And they're gonna pick another mid laner
So it also seems like it would be pretty nice into Centaur in the lane right?
One of the rare heroes that your right click actually damages him a lot even with the return
If they are going to pick another mid laner, I feel like Qwad might be a good option
Qwad is good against Sniper in the lane, he can blink forward, throw a dagger at the Sniper
so you remove the ranged disparity that normally Sniper has on you and you pressure him in the lane.
So I think this last ban is going to be absolutely crucial whether Team Street thinks that it's a
problem. They have to make sure that Sniper gets a free game, you know.
And then the Crop is the biggest threat at the moment in the draft.
The other mid laners, I think the Sniper could still roll them over, but Crop could be dangerous.
There also comes back down to a very important method that you mentioned with Mirel.
You said that just like Lal, he isn't really known for his laning prowess. That's where he might be weaker.
So it's interesting that Spirit choose to index on him, having such a strong pick to try and dominate
because we've seen some snipers, especially yesterday, picked up and then they lose lane anyway.
This is just not a hero you can afford to fall behind in early on. You just end up being like a range tree.
And that's the problem with picking a counter to the Viper this early on, we don't know where the Viper is going.
And that's the issue.
If the Viper goes to carry and then they pick a new mid laner, then what are you going to do?
It's a sniper, like you said, you can't afford to lose lane on this hero.
So this is definitely a very, very crucial last band that are using all their time to figure out what to ban here.
They have to worry about another hero other than Corp as well.
So they banned out the Dragonite, so they were worried about Dragonite.
Dragonite carry, I guess that was something that they were considering, but I think the
Corp is still a very nice hero to add to their lineup.
They actually just played a carry.
So that is pretty good at closing the gap against the Sniper.
It gives you more, I think, teamfight with the Aurats, you know, the Warcry
and everything.
You're more durable as a team.
I kind of like it. It's like similar to the Dragonite, right?
You're not really going to pressure that Sentor.
I think Sentor's going to be happy in his lane.
Like it's Chen and Sven.
He's going to be fine.
I kind of understand it though.
Because don't you like with the Warcry, with all the Auras, with the Viper,
don't you run into big damage problems on Spirit?
Even if the Sentor...
The lane has to be played first, right?
So if you choose the Sven,
It means that you're not going to pressure the center. Center is going to get a good lane and the Viper and Sniper matchup you already know this is going to be very favourable for Sniper.
So now they pick a troll. It's all up laning for Spirit. They have three good lanes for, three good lane matchups for their three calls and on top of that, they have track on bounty hunter.
So if they win all their lanes and somehow they get kills that keep running around, set up a lot of track kills, this could turn really, really ugly for Yandex, you know, because they're like once again,
It takes time right? You have a Viper mid, you have a Sven carry, all of them need to farm.
And Marsh is the only one that can kind of move early you know with the dagger.
And he's up against a bad matchup so it's gonna be a slow dagger. It's not gonna be that type of
game where your Marsh is gonna get dagger like 10-12 minutes you know. I think it's gonna be post
15 minutes for Marsh to get a dagger this game unless the support can somehow create a miracle
early game to get them the space for notice to get his dagger. Otherwise I think Spirit is just
going to run them over in the early game with three lane victories. It's so tough because when you
look at the Yandex lineup you wouldn't necessarily characterize it as greedy right? It's a decently
well-rounded ball-up lineup. Okay it's slow. Maybe it's not greedy but it's slow because
Viper you're gonna itemize like you're gonna buy travels you know it takes time to come online
The stand needs is Ekko, Dagger, BKB, E, and Mass of Menace.
He's not going to be fighting too much in the early game.
So you're only fighting with the supports and the Mars.
But the Mars is in a difficult lane, you know?
So you can't really expect him to be leading the charge in a game
when he's placed in a situation where he is not going to get a good start.
That's why I feel like that draft is going to be slow.
And when I same spirit, they win all three lanes,
they have bounty under the track and they stamp it to run at you.
It's not going to be that easy for for Yandex to deal with this pressure
Okay, I mean I hear you loud and clear sounds like spirit are set up for success in the early stage of the game
But isn't there anything that Yandex can do you think to try and
Keep things afloat because the way you're making it sound is like okay spirit win lanes. They win game
GG Yandex like what what what do you have to say? That's not what I say
I'm saying that they can snow over on lanes and get a lot of kills to track to accrue a big lead, right?
But during the teamfights, I think the Mars counters the Sniper and the Stampede very well, you know
They can trap them in and the Viper can unload damage with the Sven
So they can play the game with I would say like maybe 5, 6, 7k deficit, but hang on a minute, Saksa
I think I'll get Toro
Poor little Toro wall out the fraud, his Axis still gets the coverage from Collapse low and the Shrapnel coming through
This has turned ugly for Yandex as they'll be the ones to lose their carry instead
try to find your Toro you come for the king you better not miss ends up being
two kills full spirit the start out this best of one you're not fighting into
sniper in this style 5v5 engagement level 1 you know like sniper is just the
king my king of all this level 1 fights my shrapnel is just too good of a spell
in the level 1 fights and you're not winning it against sniper not to
mention he didn't even go for the scatter shot right he went for that
ghillie suit that's gonna help him stay a lot safer in some of these team fights that you mentioned
you can bet your ass team yandex will be looking out for him in the fights the second notice spots him
bam arena down spear in so he's got to be very careful about his positioning but if you look
at the net worth just off of those kills alone bounty hunter already accruing a little nice chunk
of change is that going to affect the lanes at all here for roux and collapse for sure the
faster boots, faster ring of health for the centaur if he wishes to go vanguard in this lane.
I mean against against the slain I expect him to just rush. I guess he can also go helm
and he's going to go helm but I think the helm of iron will early just means that
there's not much you can do as the chen. I spent a friend here the centaur in this lane
and so it definitely matters a lot in the early game. They already mentioned that the chen's
fan combo even though it does rhyme, it doesn't really do anything to the center.
So is there some sort of game plan as we see Panto and Yatoro able to further those first
few kills onto another one onto Saksa?
Yeah, this is not looking good right now for Yandex, they have to kind of figure out
how to stop the creep and just try to stabilize the early game and here we see Taz rotating
in.
It's level one though, how are they going to do this?
I tried to slow him down with the Blood Grenade but Saksa is a bit too far away,
We need to close the gap for the shards. Watch the range. Can't find it.
Oh, that is a huge loss, you know, keeping our tusk here and they're not getting anything at all.
Yeah, I guess you can just get back to bottom, but still it's a lot of wasted time.
The Bradside noticed had a very heads up spear.
I think he threw it to try and get the last hit on the creep. It happens to cancel Tanto shackles as well.
So avoiding a lot of harass damage.
A team spirit, they know that the Tusk is on the prowl somewhere else on the map, so
they're just trying to beat into this mass above they can.
Here's the pool, and there you go.
Okay, so you're just going to try and avoid this entirely.
I think that's the smart decision here.
So at the same time in the melee, the Viper has, you know, he has Nether Toxin.
He has chosen to go for 0-2-1, so this is going to allow him to best play in
a difficult matchup.
As long as he has some stacks in the jungle, he's going to be able to recover quickly, you know.
Viper doesn't really mind too much being placed in a matchup where he's going to have trouble with,
because he can just farm the jungle later.
Yeah, that's why you were saying we see this hero so heavily contested, right?
He can do both.
He can dominate the lane and even in the few lanes that he can't, he can just farm.
And I guess that's kind of why I'm curious about the sniper pick.
Because this is a hero that is all about crushing that lane
and putting the opponent mid at a net worth deficit.
I don't think the Viper is going to be at a net worth deficit.
Not a big one, maybe a small one but it might not really matter so much you know.
I mean if they can actually rotate in with the bounty to find some kills when the Viper's
jungling that would be ideal right. I mean I think the Sniper here enables the bounty hunter's
team a lot that when you can find all these small little pickoffs in the jungle from far
you know, with the access to the team spirit historically have always liked the bounty hunter
even back in the days when Mira was still on the squad this is something that they like to bust out
just a play style they're very comfortable executing the empty Chen here so they call it
you gotta explain that part a bit more though because I understand that okay it can follow the
Chen and match his rotations but when the Chen walks up with his creeps what can a bounty
Hunter really do
Might be in a little bit of a pickle here
I mean the bounty doesn't care about the champ because he he can just run at you and he has very high armor
So he can thank your creeps and he can block your cans his body can do all sort of annoying things for you
in the early game. Oh boy that is huge! Nice rotation, Saksa.
Hatches out the sniper. The power of the Tuss in the early game, no other
position for heroes can do this, you know, except for Tuss.
Shot and snowball. I actually don't even know what happened. I think the sniper
must have walked up trying to bully the Viper and then gets caught. Yeah,
he gets a good shot though, but that is definitely a very very big loss for
I think he tried to TP out over committing and now he has to walk off. This guy aim fast.
I think what might have happened is Saksa saved a skill point. Normally you don't expect
Tass to have shard and snowball at level 2. And then that's what caught him off guard.
That is a definitely wrong walk of shame for Sniper and that allows the Viper to overtake him in terms of CS right now.
And it goes back a little bit to what you said about Merell maybe struggling a bit in the early laning stage.
Gotta get the shackle out.
Found him under the tower, a bit too risky for Collapse to commit into though. Just some poke damage onto Watson.
He'll be pushed away from this wave so a good bit of EXP and creeps just being denied.
Spirit will still run on forward, Saksa now in with the Cp, not sure whether they can save Malady but I heard a Viper strike, Jira Junius rotated over, looks like they'll find themselves the kills, Snowball is there, Panto will get punished, so they get what they came for in Malady, Watson able to escape and I don't actually know if he wanted to live there, maybe he brings himself a self on the channel.
It's okay. He doesn't want to give XP to the shaman for sure.
That was a crucial kill that the shaman didn't get.
That's why you buy branches, you know. Like that one branch actually save his life.
So true.
Do you remember back in the day where it was tundra and gaming
buying like six branches to start the game type shit like those inventories?
Efficiency of the level one item builds.
You gotta stop telling them about how good these branches are though, the inflation prices
are already hitting.
Like what, 55 apart right now is tough, man.
Kind of sad, you know.
First is the food, then is the groceries, next thing you know they're gonna up the
amount of TP scrolls like.
I lost the clarity because of that.
Yeah.
Even the clarity prices are, everything is more expensive these days.
Well, that won't be living.
Gonna give us more gold when we kill the heroes, you know.
And people are already complaining that supports are getting too much gold.
Yeah, I can see that. It's definitely a thing.
Everybody is getting richer.
Everybody is a core nowadays. There's no such thing as a support.
Maybe that's why everyone's having a lot more fun.
Notices will get pushed away.
Cackles there just to keep them out of the Wisdom Shrine area,
but there's an arena available and sucks out the health.
Yatoro's trying to get a good position on.
You need to try and throw a spear or your Toro, he steals away the shrine of wisdom
but he's not able to pop this ultimate. Get speared at the very last moment and they'll
pay with two lives for that transgressor. I feel like that wasn't too bad. I'm gonna double
wisdom. I didn't even lose this up but I don't think it's too bad the throw went down.
Yeah I think he was ready to sacrifice his life. He saw them coming in but he decides to
slow them with the axes and then stand his ground so I feel like he's already
prepared to die there maybe he just felt that even if he started to run at that
point he wouldn't have made it up and now no arena gonna try and make an
aggressive move on to notice not allowing the spear to come out with the
chicken fingers and the shackles noticed will die so your Toro and Panto get
their revenge now looking to put some pressure on to this tier one
Yeah, we mentioned that Mars is the key hero for Yandex. They're going to be playing a lot of moves through him in the early game since the Viper has spent other ones that are going to be hitting creeps.
So, kill him. Slightly off the mark there with the Shard, Satsa. Doesn't manage to land it this time, but you were saying about the Mars, how important he is. He's getting slowed down for sure.
His dagger is going to be so pushable for Yandex to be able to operate as a team you know.
I think if Spirit can somehow find another move to kill him, it would be so good for
the game.
Well for now, both supports are still sticking around the bot lane, maybe they're just
waiting for the Maas to come back and try to get him again.
Yeah, I mean they should.
They definitely should.
It's not like the Viper or the Sven is going to rotate in to save the bros.
Double's on the support as well because of the double shrine, you know, so this is definitely a big play that they can make here if they can catch Lotus of God once more.
He didn't use his TP, so I think he was also a bit wary, you know, after he died, he just chose to walk back to the lane instead of TP them.
I'd actually be Yandex the one making the move onto Yatoro. Nice chicken finger to stop the mast, but picked up by the snowball, Yatoro in some trouble.
who's gonna come through to try and help but your troll warlords already getting pretty low
nice shackle to stop Chira jr from interrupting and out comes the battle
trends trying to life steal up unfortunately it's still too early in
the game and the damage is lacking from the troll Chira jr stops that troll in
his tracks and a spear will get Panto as well so the back and forth here both
teams understand just how important no business in this game and they're
trying to help and slow him down and Saksal has been just part of
for everything and every move for his team getting the kill on the sniper, getting the
kill on the troll, he's just been everywhere you know.
And he's been the man of the game so far watching the unrest.
Having a slower line up but Saksa is kind of making up for it.
Kind of maybe thought that Spirit were going to run away with the early game after those
first two kills around the bounty runes and then the subsequent lane losses.
But yeah the shrines as well.
The shrines yeah.
I mean the fact that they are even still in this and in fact ahead in kills on the board
and that goes to show a lot being done by the supporting cast members.
You can't really get much done on the map with the Chen right?
I think you can push towers you can pressure but the impact that this task is bringing to the table
I don't think it can be matched right now but here's the benefit of the Chen.
He got creeps to TP into, tries to make a move on to collapse but a very
heads up whirlwind for himself down to the low ground.
That's the only thing that would have saved him there.
That was a lot of rotations committed onto the center, a lot of space freed up for the rest of the team.
And again, it's going to start getting interesting when a bounty has tracked up, you know.
Spirit is going to be very keen looking for kills, especially with a sniper when that happens.
I think one more minute you'll see track coming online.
An important thing for Spirit.
In the moment you have tracked and the shaman ultimate, you can start to be very very aggressive
on the map to look for kills into towers.
Level 6 on Rue, we'll see where he hits too first to try and make a play.
A little bit more for Panto to get to those mass-surfered wards though.
This hasn't really been the typical sniper game plan right?
I feel like Winter you always talk about how sniper wants to crush the lane, take
the mid tier one and then start rotating to the side lanes to impact them.
But now it's actually the Viper, the one punching away at his opponent's tower.
Yeah, that one kill, you know, from Saksa. That one rotation actually just meant so much for Shira Juni.
Absolutely.
I'm just gonna TP into the mid lane now, looking to try and set something up.
I have to contest them around the 12-minute ruins.
It's just Saksa and Viper, they can maybe outnumber them.
They have to be wary about the arena coming in for Team Spirit. If they overcommit onto
the Viper, Nautilus is just going to TP down, pop the arena and turn the fight around, and
you can't run away with Stampede, so you always have to be really cautious about
committing.
Speaking of the TP, here's Nautilus ready to try and impact the fight. They saw an
AD room picked up by the Sniper, and maybe they want to take advantage of the fact
the spirit will be feeling strong. Merell, you can't afford to step down to that low
ground again. You're going to be caught.
He might choose to go for the centaur though. Maybe he's going to show on the lane collapse,
so they might change their sides onto lane.
Why not? Arena means that the Stampeat will do nothing. It's a big, big wraparound.
There's been heroes missing on the map for the entire time.
He was really aware. You saw how he was farming. He was always farming towards the left.
Because he knows that there might be a gank coming from the right, you know.
So that was a very, very good awareness from Team Straight.
Noticing that the gank might come over there.
Who the hell even does that?
Like, who the hell thinks that I'm gonna get ganked from my own triangle at 13 minutes in the game?
But look at how he's positioning, right?
Yeah, exactly.
That's so, I mean this is like top teams in the world type shape right? They are so acutely aware of what's going on
I mean to get also a process of elimination right? You see the midway pushing, nobody's hitting the mid tower
and there's no way they're ganking a troll in the bottom side right? So it must be the center
Adol's gonna try and hide behind some trees, gets himself out of trouble seriously
They don't even know you're there
Very cute plays, it gets himself a nice deep ward near the tier two
Yeah this is the thing about the map changes when they added all these small little trees around the jungle area, I kind of like it you know, in a lot of small fights I feel like I could actually just hide there if they don't have some spell that gives vision.
It makes the supports actually much harder to detect and much harder to kill in those skirmishes.
I think not only that but it also allows for more skill expression right because now as a support player
There are so many more ways for you to juke and stay hidden and find these angles for success
We saw it already impact collapse up there in the top lane farming towards left using that cluster of trees to keep
Myself mostly hidden and really cool stuff. I mean the way that Dota has been going over the past few weeks or months or even years
It's just rising in terms of skill expression and I'm all here for a little bit
Okay, you don't like that. I just thought he would go for it a little bit later
You know, but he feels like he needs to play more for the sniper
He needs to be active a sniper and throw both are going to naturally farm a lot more
So you have to be more active on the sample. I think this is a this is the right
Top process, you know for collapse. Yeah, he needs to participate with the supports
They know the snipers not near the top lane they know he's just come back to the mid
If they kill Meryl here again, this is going to totally handicap his game.
A blink of the mask finally online.
He knows something is up.
He's hiding.
Unfortunately, the power is going to go down, Roshan is going to be moving top.
So the battle for Roshan control is going to begin.
Arena catches your Toro.
finds him with a blink dagger, pulls him back into the Viper, you need a save but you don't have it.
Panto comes in a bit too late and now Yandex establishing themselves in his triangle.
Big stomp onto two though the Sniper peeking away from afar.
This might not look as good for Yandex as his first starter.
Oh another stun?
Another stun is on too.
But on the back line they found the Splear onto the Sniper using that Sampeat to get out.
And the Sniper has just been controlled on the back line.
Victory Feast keeps them all too healthy for Merell to do any lasting damage.
And Yandex just striking back again, you know, with the mask.
Alright, this is the play that you need, you know, with the mask, with the dagger coming
in and even before he got the dagger, he was already being really active on the map, participating
in smokes.
Notice definitely creating a lot of havoc so that his Viper and Sven can come on
the map and right now, the Roshan is going to be a very, very key thing for both
teams to contest in the next couple of minutes because if you get the Russian right now on
the throw or the stand it means that you're going to secure Tormenter.
Gary Business here for Spirit as the Mars blink dagger comes at a bit of a slower time compared
to usual but right when they need it. Yandex, I mean there were moments in that fight
where it looked like Spirit would be able to stand their ground but I love what notice
did as soon as he set up the initial kill he went to look for the backline went
to disable the Sniper and got in his way. There was not much Merel could really do.
Yeah. You're not really at that point of damage yet as the Sniper.
You see the problem of Sniper, you have to spend in the mouth. Once he gets caught, he's just going to die.
There's nothing you can do to save him.
Put the Travels in.
Vlad's going to try and dominate the creep, but it doesn't stop that TP and now the Centaur's in trouble.
Still alive.
Roken up. He's going to go down and Malady doesn't even die.
Now Saksas come around finding Rue with the dust and that's going to be a bounty hunter and a Sentor Warrunner dead
This game is falling apart right now for spirit. They can't win the team fights
They're trying to get pick offs on the side lanes with the bounty hunter track
But the boost of travel on the Viper just coming in handy there
Keeping in to save the the chain here you can see in a moment. Chain gets ganked
Close the travel and I come in from the Viper
And the sand comes over and just chucks the stun over they pop the mag
who buffs himself and keeps alive.
I mean, not to mention,
I'm just noticing this now,
but Chira Jr. with this Viper build.
Boots of travel into Crimson Guard.
We talked about the importance of the Auras,
and one thing that we've noticed over the last day of Blastless of Ones
is teams are starting to diversify, right?
They're assigning different aura items to different heroes.
So instead of just one off later,
building all the Auras or one core having the full burden of that,
they now get all these Auras at a way faster time.
It makes sure that the Mars doesn't have to go for any items, he doesn't want to and some more, you have to Chen building the griefs.
And Yennex are going to be ready to fight way faster than Spirit could expect.
We were talking about Yennex being a slower team, out greeting Spirit in the late game.
Maybe they learned the thing or two from Heroic yesterday when they got run over.
This Crimson on the Viper is going to mean that the Troll is going to be doing very very little in the team fights.
Even the sniper in both of them is a very good Crimson game.
And generally you don't really want to buy Crimson on the Dmar.
So I think this is very very nice for the Viper to actually have it.
And how is Spirit going to win the team by the way?
I feel like the Senton Storm is not going to be enough, you know?
They have the Tascar to save, they have the Heelstorm to Chen.
Like how are you going to burst a target through Crimson, you know?
I don't think it's happening.
This is kind of my concern, Winter, in the draft as well.
I was wondering, Spirit, do you have enough damage and right now the answer seems to be
no.
You don't have enough space on the map, Ivor Collapse being found forced to stamp heat,
Snowball to try and chase though.
Where's the rest of the team?
Not connecting with the boots of travels on the Viper at the moment, he still had
his TP on cooldown and Collapse will be able to escape this time round.
I mean still, he's been kicked out of the lane, he come farm, sure he doesn't
die but there's a stampede being used.
So how are you going to defend the Talonter?
I think you can't. You just straight up can't go there and fight anymore.
Yeah.
Can they somehow maybe steal it?
They're going to try and do it with the bounty.
I mean, there's vision set up right here.
You're going to have to run straight into the field of sentries.
Planted to detect you. Probably not going to happen.
They can maybe try to get Rosh though. I think that's what Spirit is going to do here.
Maybe so.
and you have committed bodies and he piece up here
you're not throwing themselves at the roachan
you know you should throw yourself at the roachan
whenever your enemy is doing tormentor
and you want the roach to cause the river quicker
so you have to let him throw you
so that he walks faster
in the beginning, you need to do it in the beginning
you gotta piss him off real quick
so he's just like I'm done with this shit
let me get to my bottom pit
because it's actually very important for the roach
to get over there a little bit faster
like 7-8 seconds faster
and your throw goes on the Russian as soon as possible.
But right now they don't feel comfortable because the Viper has traveled down to the bot lane.
Just maybe 5 or 10 seconds slower than you'd like to see Spirit with the potential
to maybe have stolen that Rosh from under Yandex's nose but with the way that Yandex are playing.
Right, they should just get the Rosh.
I think this is nothing Spirit can do right now.
Yeah, agreed.
Agonyms now complete for Chira, so
Further questions of how will you kill any hero amplified, there's no taste of another catch.
And I mean he was set up in a really bad matchup, but he has done everything for them along with Sub-Z.
The Offlane duo for Yandex, they have shown for them so many of these matches and continue to do so here.
is going to have to somehow defend the high ground with Sniper, look for pickaxe on the
map if you're tall. It's going to be a tall cast here. This Chen, Mars, Viper, this
ball that's coming, it is going to be on your front door very very soon.
Sniper chooses to defend. He's going to get caught by either the arena or the class, you know
And there's nothing they can do to save him. The center has no agonies. There's no other way to get him out
He's building a BKB. He's getting close to it. So that he needs BKB plus agonies, you know, it's so much gold
But why does he need that agonies you think?
Keep the sniper alive on the troll
You do you need the shot?
No, no, no, the H.I.R. right now
Oh, the Aghanim's from the center. I thought you were talking about the sniper because I was saying the snipers
Sniper is whatever, whatever he buys right now, he's not going to matter too much.
Oh, he's just done. He's not impacting the game at all, you think?
He needs to farm so long.
I would say that he needs to farm to the point where he has BKB because
Okay, this guy is gonna die, but he needs BKB on the sniper
and he needs what data but he needs so many items your data's butterfly even
so many items he needs now you need to hope that the spam doesn't just jump to
you and secure you anyway I think he can only choose to go to PS and then hope
that the center with the agg names is going to save him every time the sand
jumps on you pray you know collapse please I've been very nice to you the
past couple of months I've been sharing you with gifts with good food
Please return the favor.
Collapse, Centaur, Aghanim, BKB or Bust it seems this game.
Spirit.
They drafted themselves a lineup that had pretty good starts to the lanes
but noticed and salsa with some very nice early game moves
kind of flipping the script and putting the Viper in a very good position.
For what it's worth, Yatoro is keeping up in terms of net worth.
This troll still manages to get a decent amount of items at this juncture in the game, but he can't do it so well.
Yeah, I just don't know whether it's enough. Collapse now being initiated around in the mid lane.
Nice hex. Looks like Pantel might be going down. Stampede forced out. Pantel is going away.
Okay.
Somehow nobody dies.
I mean, notice wasn't there for an arena or anything, right?
I mean, Stampede is used, so I guess Eandex can definitely press forward with the issue here.
They should be looking to get towers and secure map control.
They're initiating in the mid lane now. They found themselves a target.
They know God's strength was popped as well.
Saksa in trouble. Hand of God comes through, but they can't save the task.
Arena walls come down. Spear off the mark. Still finds Panto.
As he's got a problem, I think he might just survive jumping in.
Nothis finishes the job.
One for one on the supports.
The high gun now with the storm team spirit looking to continue the chase Watson even with all his dog strength his sword still hits hard
By back there from Panto as they're looking to try and get this spend battle trans popped out the Toros damage has to be
Respective even with that ice armor
He's being slow to a crawl and Chira Julia would dance right on top of him and stop him from getting the damage out
DKP is there but morale we talked about it
there's only so much this sniper can do and at the moment it's not looking to be
enough he got back into this fight Panto he understood how crucial it was but
spirit they just can't stand their ground into how far ahead Yandex are
they need more time you know they're not ready to fight and you can see the
discrepancy of how strong the heroes are in the team fight here on Neon Stamford has no
chance once the sand jumps on it I mean you all started quite decent with
that's down on to I guess it's a secondary fight already. I tried to kill off some travelers,
Watson doesn't have got strength so they decided to run in but he still has the ace
you know so he doesn't really care. You can take my A gaze but I'm going to take
your life. I do think the buyback from Panto was really nice though it helps them get
at least something in that fight but the second Mirelle gets looked at he just goes
down and you gotta remember that for the past 30 seconds before we reached this
point in the replay. Mirrell was free-hitting. And Sniper was auto-attacking non-stop and all
he kills is the mass. That's just not a good look. The amount of armor, the healing, the sustain,
the auras, crimson guard, your greaves, everything stacking up, even the frost armor from the creeps
from the Chen. Yeah, he's just also really poor on Sniper. He's not rich. If you have to buy
BKB as the second item on Sniper, it means that you're picked in a suboptimal game, you know,
because you have to buy vkd early. I mean typically spirit very well known for their shooting but
morale here maybe not too handy maybe needs a few lessons from another team of spirits
and the hope that they can cling on to right now as spirit is to
try to just delay the game as long as possible they have sniper on the high ground so that's
It's difficult to push into Sniper's high ground as long as you can protect the Sniper.
So the more they can delay the game, if they get to the point where they have the aggro
in the center, there's definitely a chance for an inclusive comeback in the game.
I think a bounty hunter from behind is so miserable because there's always the comeback
chance where you get a bunch of track kills and then you bring your team back into
the game.
But then a large part of it looks like this, where Rue is trying to find some
space on the map trying to just give his team info and instead ends up going down 1 6 and 6 not
really the scoreline that you want probably a pause 4 definitely not especially if you're a pause 4
bounty hunter is the is the alternative a pause 5 bounty hunter my goodness
it's just tough you know i think the moment when they lost the mid lane with sniper with
this job things coming out of your
Toro I just have to be KBTP but with
a nice job not going anywhere you'll
stress the kite spear just to chain
Toro is toast the second he showed on
that lane socks are just playing so
well this game on the task is everywhere
setting up a kill here setting up a
kill there in time to lead the smoke
in time to break the enemy momentum like this is why I love position 4 tasks
and this hero is just so dynamic he's also very difficult to play around
the success favorite heroes I mean over the course of history success always
favored the pause falls with high skill expression then you can see why
It doesn't miss. Really sharp stuff so far from him. Definitely the difference maker in this game.
And now he has a use as well. You can kite the troll during the battle trends. You can dispel the
another spell, cancel the shackles, dispel the the track. Very very nice use games on the past.
I'm a pick. I'm Panto, Lord Horse can't even reach him because of those extended shards where you're going, speared into the tree, held by the snowball. That's gonna be a minced horse, and notice he's looking for more.
They're too far away from Rune to set the arena or a ULZ up though.
Yeah, this is definitely something to get really, really ugly right now for Spirit.
They cannot fight at all, outside of the map, they can only hide and cower in the base and wait for their calls to get enough items.
Bro said this is starting to look bad for Spirit, as if it's not 15k.
It's starting at the 29 minute mark it has just begun post.
Don't worry, prior to this, it was actually looking very rosy for Spirit.
They were having a great time.
There was still some copium, you know, before this.
I feel like in some other games, maybe you look at the line-up of Spirit and you think,
okay, there's still some high ground defense.
You think to all the Spirit Vuru bullshit magical comebacks they pulled off, it's always
collapsed on some playmaker mass setting up the team fight.
Maybe you got Yatoro with a Os-1 that feels like it can outscale everyone else in the
game.
It just doesn't really feel like that with the troll.
They have so many tools to fight him, extremely susceptible to all these yules, these punches, these shots.
Uh, it's not the troll, it's the blind sniper pink.
They only saw the viper and they decided to 16-17 the sniper and they got, they paid a huge price, you know.
What do you think we should have done there then?
They should have just picked another hero. I don't think they could have picked the mid hero there.
Maybe picked the carry hero.
Okay.
I mean, sure, they still ended up with the mashup at once, sniper against viper,
but they ended up with two side lane heroes that are really good against Sniper, the Svan and the Maas
because those were picks that came after the Sniper.
I mean, we both agree that the lanes were going pretty well for Spirit up until Saksa made those rotations
so maybe just marking the task a little bit better.
Speaking of the task, he's gonna set up another beautiful kill, get Tauro,
doesn't even get the chance to get his ultimate off.
He'll put a card out, or carry a dead body all the way home to left.
No way for you to run, that is so many kills flowing the way of Yandex.
The end is near Mike.
The coping is gone.
Yeah, the tanks run dry.
Nothing is going to stop Watson from ending the game now.
I mean, the fact that one rotation from past just feels like it just ended the early game so badly for Spirit
means that your draft has very little room for error.
It's kind of why you weren't really liking that sniper thing.
We were worried about notice, but turns out there's nothing to worry about at all.
This guy, the game that he's had on the Mars, you can't even tell he was struggling.
He made a couple of very good moves before the dagger.
I think those were really, really important moves, even though one didn't connect,
but it was really, really pivotal that he actually moved in the early game because
the Viper and the Siren, they're not moving, you know.
Yeah, exactly.
It kind of harkens back to a lot of similar scenarios that we see over the course of our
casting winter.
Sometimes teams, they just draft one active core, and then in the games where that active
core cannot come online, it looks so bad, right?
You need your master initiate, you need him to set up, but he just doesn't have the
items.
This game round, not like that at all.
He's managed to find his time to strike, find those opportunities along with Satsa,
and right now Yandex, they are at a nigh insurmountable goalie.
opening game of day number two. This could be a big day for them. Get the momentum early on in the
first match of the day. Carry it on to your subsequent games. It's hard to climb up the standings here.
So again, he's going to spot someone out here. They saw the peter chill.
It doesn't even matter though, you still got the heroes on Southside. He's just going to play around
of them. He's gonna have punch up, he can't even be KBTP. Such a pull by a troll to gain
ulti, doing no damage and has no way out. Yeah.
Got like a bit of an infinite armor strat here on Yandex. You got the Chen Auras,
got war cry I mean the tropic just doesn't really feel very convincing it's
for the lane it's for the lane like they want to pick everything for the lane
then they lost the lane winter that's what I mean is not convincing at all
yeah you pick the sniper 16 17 and then you have a bounty hunter so you feel
like you give him the vision nice storm hammer oh into the car Merrell will
survived the first fight of this entire game. It comes back out of the cart, he goes down.
That was absurdly easy. You might get dropped here as Wu, get pulled in by the Harpoon,
another catch, another kill. GG is called and Spirit will tap out in a very unceremonious
fashion and the streak continues. I was telling you, even in Dream League, even a bit earlier,
it feels like Yandex have Spirit's number. You were assuming, Winter, that it's because
Yandex, they can play Greed here, but Yandex say, no, no, no, no, no, we can play past with Rewind, we can crush you in 34 minutes time.
It's very, very too fast for you. Their lineup just came online, too quickly, especially to support you.
The tasks, the chat, making so many early game rotations, getting kills, especially the kill on the cyber very early on, that was the most crucial one they have secured in the early game.
I think that kind of set everything up you know for success for the course on the
Yandex side and you see subsequent rotations from notice when he didn't
even have his dagger he just came over he kills some heroes and then the game
just felt like Yandex have full control the Sven and Viper are farming
everything and you are stuck with a central sniper throw lineup which cannot
ever take a team fight because of the arena so you have to split and you
We have to hide around the corners of the map, but guess what, Saksa is there to find you every time.
And he has to be the MVP of this game.
Yeah, for sure.
I think whenever we consider Spirit as a team, even historically speaking,
they've always been known for their insane teamfight spell casting and clutch moments coming back from tough situations.
In that sense, this draft doesn't really allow Spirit to play that Spirit style, right?
They don't have any options after a certain point.
They tried to play purely for the lanes, it didn't work out,
and then they're left with zero to no wiggle room.
So now they're in 1-3 territory.
If they keep losing one or two more games from here,
it's going to be very hard to salvage this group stage.
But we'll find out what happens to them later on in the stream for now.
Coming up, we have Navi vs Liquid after a short break.
For two teams that like to play a bit slower, Spirit and Yandex, that match certainly ended
a lot faster than we expected.
Welcome back to Blast Slam 6 here, in today two of the group stage best of ones all across
the board, and we're moving along to our very next best of one, it's Na'Vi versus
Team Liquid.
I think maybe in the past three to six months, if you talked about this matchup, people
Probably say I mean liquids got this for sure right but at least in this tournament winter
Now we are showing us something special
They're currently three and one taking some pretty important games of Reconyx
Falcons and Tundra
So these guys are no jokes the one game that they lost the spirit so far
It was because they last picked a mid IO and that experiment didn't work out
But clearly they understand something about this current patch that some of these other teams don't
They're definitely cooking up something. I like that they are not afraid to experiment,
picking IO in their first game, you know, shows a lot of courage. It shows that they, like
you said, they already understand something that the other teams don't use. They see
a way to play the game because IO mate is something that could function as an accelerator
in the game. And I've been saying that this game right now with the current patch
is really, really fast-paced. So if you can kind of find a way to abuse it with
some sort of hero. You have a mid IO with some lash or some gyrocopter carry and you accelerate the
game pretty quickly. You could just run over the solo teams very very easily. Yeah, the thing is
though and this is not me calling you out but I remember when we were discussing Navi in private
you were mentioning that you weren't really that big of a fan of their play style. You found it
a bit confusing and I kind of agree with you but that's why I like them. I feel like the way
that they approach the game. It's so different from every other team. Niku has his weird ass
pool of mid heroes and then got the juice. I think he has a very specific type of carry
play style as well. But you weren't too big of a fan of that. Can you tell us a bit more maybe why
you weren't feeling them? I think some games I feel like that drafts don't really make sense,
you know, but then again, you know, if it doesn't make sense to us, it doesn't mean it
doesn't make sense to them maybe they have some idea that we don't we don't see
or when they can execute it definitely comes together and also like for the
support those sometimes I feel like they have two position five heroes you know so
not not very conventional I think Zaya placed four like a five in some ways it
can be a good thing in certain specific teams out and if you have very great
greedy cross and your supports are not really allowed to take too much from
on the map so he can be a good thing.
We talked a bit about Na'Vi already, let's talk about their opponents.
You mentioned that this is a meta that favours playing fast, and in theory you would think
that two out of five of the very successful gaming gladiators line up would know a thing
or two about that.
After all, in the era where gaming gladiators were the most dominant, it was also liquid
who were their main rivals.
Now you have this combination of some of the strongest components of both those rosters,
but they haven't really found the right recipe for success yet.
At the first few weeks, the first month, the second month, people were saying, hey, you
know, there's a lot of factors going into this.
These players need time to adjust.
They've been playing with similar lane partners for so long, now they have to switch it
up, Ace with Boxy, Tofu with Miki, it's very different from what they had before,
You're kind of at the point where I think a lot of people are scratching their heads wondering what isn't clicking for this team just yet
They don't have a position five player. I think boxy and tofu are both the same player
They need a sacrificial five to enable their play style and right now. It's very weird because they're both on the same team
They don't have someone to thank the game and sometimes you see them trying to I
I think I put a bandit on the problem by moving Tofu on certain heroes to the off lane
Yeah, and they put boxy on the safe lane they make it. I mean, I think in some games it's okay
But I think overall it's not a long-term solution. Somebody has to
Make a sacrifice somewhere it will be the sacrificial and I think in the long run it's probably more suited
For Tofu. He's the one doing the draft and he I think he's the one that probably fits more of the
conventional position 5 heroes, and sometimes I think he just needs to be more willing to do it
rather than they are trying to craft a strategy that allows a double position 4 hero to succeed.
Kind of get what you mean, although I feel like especially in recent times,
I dare say that Boxy has been playing a lot more like what we saw from Saksa in the Yandex game
so far, right? He's just kind of running in, putting his body on the line, he is less concerned
about scaling and he's always trying to make those plays. But I get what you mean. I think Tofu,
he's had a lot of weight on the shoulders as we see right now. I mean you guys can't see it,
but over the past few games where we've been in the lobby, it's mostly Tofu in the driver's seat
for the drafting. So I think that comes with a lot of pressure, right? You're now
trying to get used to working in that liquid environment of not only having Blitz,
but also jabs as an assistant coach so now you have a lot more voices in the draft maybe you're so
used to drafting against these players that now working with them it feels very different so tofu
definitely the one i have my eyes on he's the one who has to sort of adapt and metamorph the most
into a new version of himself from liquid to really succeed speaking of liquid success so far
are two and two to not too bad in this tournament just yet.
I feel like typically in the dream league group stage,
there's always this joke that liquid struggle
when it comes to these dragged out tournaments.
But when things are fast paced and there's momentum,
maybe it helps them hit that adrenaline or flow state.
I don't know.
They have a lot more problems now.
They have identity crisis problems.
They don't know what they should be doing as a team.
Forget about the method.
Sometimes they just have problems with functioning as a team because of having double position 4 heroes.
It also kind of, I think, affects A's a lot, you know, and a lot of the games that I see them lose.
He's been playing really badly and not necessarily it's his fault, but also because he doesn't actually have the tools in the game, right?
Because you have 2 boss you're supposed to bring, maybe sometimes 2 greedy, and then you lose a lot of room as the core to, you know, to do well in the game.
So that could be like an underlying cause of why Ace is not playing on his usual best.
It's also interesting that you mentioned that because Ace is an off-lane player who...
As long as he's been an off-lane player, he's been farming, right?
We always talk about how he started out as a carry transition to an off-lane,
even in the heyday of gaming gladiators, he was always getting a lot of...
This is why it's important for him to actually have a 5 in the game.
Because when you have two 4 or 4.5 support players, they are going to take something away from a team
and often times you're going to take away from one of the calls, you know, and in this case, in Liquid's case,
maybe Ace is the one that's suffering the most, you know, and a lot of times I feel like he's kind of forced,
not that it's wrong for him to make certain rotations, but he feels like he has to, right,
because there's not enough resource on the map, so he needs to make himself do something with the team,
but he doesn't want to do it, you know, and then it results in something very, very,
bad at playing, somebody dies here and he doesn't get his item and it's just snowballs in the game,
you know, so I've got a liquid kind of, they have to keep finding solutions to how to solve this
imbalance in the team where there are too many people trying to farm, you know, so they have
to try to figure out maybe from the heroes, they have to try to limit how many greedy heroes
you can pick in a game, right, you have to stop trying to flex, maybe I think flexing
sometimes causes these problems because you are trying to move heroes around,
especially the support heroes right around too much and it causes an imbalance in the economy dynamics of the draft
Now I can see what you mean. You've got to make sure that everybody
Stays at their relative income ban, right? If not, you're going to start taking away resources from each other and stay in their tax bracket
Exactly
Suddenly you start buying dinners that you can't afford the credit card bill racks up
We've all been there. It's suddenly on crippling debt. You're out on the streets. It's not a good look
liquid
Especially recently it hasn't looked that great for them.
They missed out for the first time on ESL LAN on a Dream League as well.
And that's things, you know.
I mean, after being invited without any questions asked for so long,
playing the qualifiers and sort of failing to prove yourself,
I think maybe it might work out in their benefit.
Maybe now you have a fire lit under your ass and you're like, OK, guys,
we were very far from where we want to be.
We need to step things up.
Right now they're starting things up with a Shadow Fiend, could be a mid, could be a safe lane, both Miki and Nisha have been known to play it, the Navi answering immediately with a Windranger.
Both of these heroes are very very flexible, Windranger can be a fall, can be a carry, to a certain extent can be a mid, but that I'm a fan of it, I don't think it's very good mid.
can do it. I think only I've only seen a couple of mates with in my memory Kiotaka is the one that
I last remembered doing it. Yeah but that's uh that's Kiotaka we're talking about honestly.
Don't think he doesn't know. It's kind of like saying oh you know that's I'm dying
mid in the meta because Niku did it like okay all right we get it. Okay I'm a big fan of this
double core pick at 9 and 13. So they are also blocking the mass in a way because SF wants to
be played to be a mass on the same team. The Reckham into the arena is a deadly combo.
So by picking the two cores or potentially a sub-minerana and off-lane mass, this is a good
start for Nari. I love it. This 9 and 13 pick. And Liquid they have to find their
Still at least one of them has to be a support. One melee, they need a melee hero with SF.
Clock?
Ogre?
What else?
Clock? Probably not Ogre.
Marcy?
Tiny.
Okay, they go for Tiny.
The Marcy thing is like, it kind of tells the story about Liquid when they pick Marcy because they try to run two positions for heroes, you know.
Which I'm not a really big fan of.
and the clock is more conventional as the time but with Tiny here maybe they are not
going to go for a clock. They might be going for another range hero on a support
or they are going to leave the range the support to the last pick 23 and then
pick another core here. Okay they're gonna pick the support right away. So maybe the
Tiny could be still a Flagstaff so they want to keep everything open. So
Dazzle is the one only set in stone in terms of the role. He's a 5. He's good against Mars in the lane.
His animated hero is gonna struggle against the Dazzle. So maybe there is a lot of value here for opposition for Windranger
because you can kind of battle it out against the Dazzle with the Windrun. He doesn't get to hit you through the poison touch.
Dazzle is one of those save heroes that actually bypasses the arena because of his new out though.
though which is yeah strange thing that's a good point like you could also it's weird right because
any other save hero like you think about a task you think about a shadow demon disruption if you
manage to disable them on the back lines like you know what's the counter to that what a disruptor
you put a static storm into the arena oh he works on the yeah it is the ghost or whatever
I think it's what they call it
Disruptor could be not too bad here
It's not a hero that many of these teams have favoured at the moment though
A positive 4 because I know Alex will play a lot of positive 5 views on the positive 4
So I'll be glad to see that
Just you wait, this is gonna be clockwork made from Niku
You never know
You know there's one bit there, see that middle where we're talking about
Okay
There's a bit on the middle though
I'm just throwing it out there you know, there's something happens in that C8 pub
Are they good at one?
I never like to be on the same team as the main clockwork.
So there's shit there.
I get it.
I'm not going to say anything else about that.
You see a clockwork, you see an AA.
The windranger is probably going to be the one.
So what do you want if you're liquid?
Zoo heroes?
I feel like zoo heroes are pretty nice against clock and AA.
Even into the monster?
Beast.
Kinda like beast.
I mean the mask can be annoying.
So they go to the storm, so SM is scary.
And they're going to last pick the off lane hero.
They definitely need some kind of pipe hero.
It's a mask.
Pipe will definitely be very very nice.
I don't know if you want to just leave the supports to buy the pipe.
In a lot of the games.
I know some teams do it but it's just an item that's really expensive. It's really hard to get there on certain heroes
Yeah, you don't really want to
Buy a pipe on Tiny on Dazzle
No, not Tiny. Tiny doesn't like this. It's not his duty, you know
It's not his job. He is gonna buy dagger, yields, whatever, you know, kiting item. Dazzle is the one that has to decide
Okay, there's an A in the game. So Lockhead loses value, Greed loses value
So pipe is probably something that he's going to consider
Glimmer or pipe
See there's still the ace hero left to be picked here and the underlaw is a pretty solid ban because you'd imagine that with this lineup at the
Moment liquid needs a bit of lockdown. They need a big beefy boy in the front lines
It's going to be underlaw type Centaur type of heroes. Underlaw is not dead or it's tight
There's Centaur because Mirana hates playing into those heroes. Yeah
What else is ace
potentially considering you were talking about the Beastmaster. I don't know if I like the Beastmaster, it's slow. I mean, it's strong together when they're standing together with the Auras, but then it's slow, you know, you're playing with the helm because
They cannot deal with the help the creep, you know
I was a house conquer offline
Yeah, not bad. It's it's kind of good
It's good against green runner carry very very good
You can't dodge with the wind run against the splash X mark destroys you you have to buy BKB early
You don't like to buy BKB early on
The wind range and carry. Mm-hmm. So Kunkka is definitely an option
Better than the tide. I would think yeah, actually Kunkka is better than tight
I feel like the boat and the rumbuf is gonna go such a long way into this damage coming up from
I'm worried about this too
Because whenever you have clock AA, you're worried about helm heroes
That's true. That's true. The lycan will eat them all up
So Kongka, bees, those are like the most
I sense all you were saying
Most enticing options. No, I think the two of them are better
Okay, and these the tight center are kind of like yeah, it's okay, but maybe it doesn't
It might not work so well
I mean, I'm just thinking tight center because tiny can toss them in and into ravage or hoofstomp. That's your center
Yeah, this is mainly for the win-win. I'll return damage. It's been on you never want to focus fire the center
And you can buy the crimson that which is gonna be really nice pipe. It's also really good this game. Yeah
Well, Liquid showed us something pretty cool yesterday in their game up against Team Spirit.
I believe they split the Auras, right?
They had their mid laner buying a Crimson, they had their support buying the Greaves,
and then they had...
Not this game.
Storm King gonna buy any of those.
You could buy Greaves though.
Yeah, you can buy Greaves, but not Crimson.
Yeah, no, not Crimson.
Crimson, Duty, maybe, Dazzle.
Bro, dude, bro, do you think the Storm players and the Lash players are buying
Greaves because they need to buy... they need to help the team buy Aura items.
They're buying those items because those items are good on their hero.
You think those players give a damn about what's good for the team?
People will play Spawn.
I don't think so because Dota 2 is a team that is a team player.
Lash players, they only care about their own game.
I mean, if there's anyone to care about their own game, you'd want it to be Nisha
on the storm, right?
I don't blame him.
Very illiquid to many victories before on this hero.
He's going to have a tough life this game.
storm into co-op matchup, the laning phase is going to be difficult but usually what
you can do in this matchup is you can kind of go jungle at some point but you
need to reach like at least level 5 you know then you have to abandon the lane
because level 5 is when you can't really see in the lane anymore against co-op
and the thing about what co-op does to storm it also makes it very hard for
storm to rotate around the map because you're always low from the shadow
strike but good news is he has a desert so the desert can maybe offset
some of those harassments by the co-op, you know.
Sometimes you can go over to the rune,
you control the water room,
and then you just drop by and heal your storm.
I think smaller things like that can go a long way in this matchup.
Is it one of those things where if Nisha gets through to level 6
without getting caught or getting killed,
then the game is free for him?
Or is it just gonna be difficult for Nisha the entire game, do you think?
I think he's only gonna worry about the yields.
I think it's a good yields game for the Mars to catch him.
So that is the only tool that they can actually use to kill him.
because other than that, A doesn't do shit against Storm, Corkwood doesn't do anything,
BNKA ain't gonna do anything, so they don't really have a good amount of lockdown for hero like Storm.
Are you concerned about Liquid's pensions to play two supports in the 4.5 role more than a five?
I feel like there's a very clear discrepancy between Tiny and Dazzle, right?
Dazzle's always going to be buying the team items.
Yeah, this game is fine, it's very clear cut.
You don't have any room to wiggle around.
You're not creating a situation.
Somebody could say, oh, maybe I could do this.
I think with Tofu and Boxy, you need
to make sure that they have very clear, defined roles
right now so that they don't get confused about what they
need to do in the game, or somebody is stepping
on the other's shoes in the game.
I think sometimes you have to notice
that in the liquid games where Boxy and Tofu,
they're both trying to do the same thing.
I have a little bit of a technical issue here. Hopefully it's going to be resolved soon.
I'm going to look at the facets. Nothing really crazy.
Nowadays, when was the last time you look at the facets? Oh, what? Why is this guy
going this fast? Maybe if you have Yatoro Windranger, he goes sometimes power shot
I mean the kill shot sorry you know power shot.
I'm trying to think actually what are the heroes that still actually have two facets
that are like the first question are you surprised that he went victory piece against the Dezlo
or are you expecting it because he got that.
I was, Damian I was Dezlo could just go in.
I think I would argue to say nowadays victory feast is favoured.
I feel like I see a lot more victory feast than not victory feast.
in games when you have shadow demon to save or oracle i mean not that we see oracle but
it's literally just shadow demon right like what other saves rain the ones in the meta shadow demon
and remaster those are the common ones draw we've got some stats for this no items gonna buy
boots tofu is gonna buy boots it's too much for a clear a clear like separation between force
and force five by boots first on five dazzle so we can run in and harass
obviously yeah it's clock who's playing the clock is it right yeah I think I
guess clockwork on pass five you're allowed to buy boots you have been
granted permission by the daughter lords to buy boots okay so did a quick
look at the stats at least in some recent tournaments here the ratio of
Victory Feast to the Bloodsport, it's like almost 75% to 25%.
So 75% of the time you see Victory Feast and then in very fringe cases you actually see Bloodsport.
People look down on Victory Feast, the healing is so juicy.
Yeah, especially if you have a hero like Qwop, Lash, Storm, you can abuse the resource
very very well.
Oh, look at that little bit of artwork going on.
What do you think this is, Winter, use your imagination, what are they drawing right
now?
The Sun, the sunlight, okay, the universe, maybe it's their flight path to Malta.
I put a yo you put a six seven on this kid. That's my goat right there. I love Nico
He truly is a super. Did you see that he wrote six seven on screen?
Am I supposed to know what it means?
Wither, you know yesterday
I said six seven like eight times in front of you and then you completely ignored me
Yeah, because I have no idea what it means. Oh my god. I'm from a different generation
You know, like six or seven years old, you know, I'm like the T 100, you know, in the
Terminator movies, you know, the old version, I don't even know what you're talking about.
That's how you know.
That's how you know, and different generations of stuff.
I do know who Arnold is, though, does that does that salvage things a little bit for
me?
Yeah.
I think it does.
Okay, there you go.
At least we have a common ground somewhere.
Well, a common ground here is Dota 2.
So thank God for that.
How did he just roll one?
These players are bored as hell. They stop joint wait wait wait. There's some artwork happening on that pull that pull that shit up right now
What is he drawing?
What is that? Is that a heart?
It just gave up on it halfway
Selling his team. I'm going to farm the two camps here
The cost 5 AA. Yeah, why not?
Making demands before the game begins. He's setting his is setting his requirements this game
If you don't make the demands before the game starts, you will never get it during the game.
That's rule number one as a support player.
You got to make the demands before the game begin.
You should have known it. He's like filling out the map dude. Like what is that?
Bro is so bored.
I think you just enjoy what he's doing.
I am. I understand what he's doing you know.
Well art is meant to be interpreted my friend.
Okay, you're the artsy person here and I'm the logical person
Just trying to logic and art be together well unfortunately for everyone listening they are
I think we're doing a lot of what we're doing a what we're doing a set review. That's a cute little dough
Oh, five minute pause time.
Zayac has been restarting his PC, but quite a while.
You think at this point in his professional career,
that should be something he can get done real quick.
Time to give them our pause time.
Do we have pause times?
Do we have for admin?
Admin, do casters have pause time please?
Maybe our producer will know. Our producer might spit on us though, in disgust.
That's a nice Mars set, you got like little, little lion, oh wait, there's, wait, the shit
inside the shield?
I didn't know that. Damn! Dude, those are two cosmetics, baby.
Yeah, Mars is the coolest hero in bonus.
Are you sure?
wise and concept wise okay because I know you're going to say I mentioned that
Lago is the most fun here right now yeah yeah no fun it's not everything I
say yeah well what you're saying is important there's a reason why they pay
you the big bucks winter everything you say is extremely important to be so
careful nowadays you know did I say that yesterday or did I say something
else you have to recall before I say anything to you I need to be so
careful nowadays having to remember the things that you say out loud to an
audience of people I am sure it's difficult nobody remembers do you
remember your lunch yesterday tell me do you remember your dinner yesterday I
remember all of those do you want to know what I had bro are you asking me
because you're you're hungry why would you remember why would you remember
what you ate like two days or three days and why because it was delicious
winter what what the hell is wrong with you don't lie to me you know you're living in
Singapore not Malaysia your food can't be good all right all right we've got them to
that point at the pause where winter is about to try and establish this country's dominance
yeah because we are so friendly like we're neighbors yeah we just love each other we love
each other, we claim to create certain type of menus.
Look, I think this might actually be a touchy topic because at the moment, it's like still
early in Europe, right? So, let's be real, none of the European Dota players are awake right now.
It's probably the Southeast Asia fans who are just finishing work who are queuing in.
I'm not training on pin ice right now.
I don't know, it depends on what kind of crowd you're pandering to, you know,
maybe the Malaysians will rally behind you and everything will be good. Seems like everyone in the
game is having a pretty nice time though. I'm not really sure why. There's nothing necessarily spicy
and Nisha is asking how much time left. He's ready to give them his pause time.
Oh that's true. What a... did he say that? No he didn't.
Is he giving his pause time? Are you allowed to nowadays? Is it in the official rule? Give
I think you can. I think that's like a gentleman's agreement thing. I don't think I
Wouldn't blame a team for not giving the pause time
Okay, we have some updates here xiax camera is not working, which is why you don't see him on your screen right now
He's the son brother
Yeah
And some issues with the camera, but they're ready to play the game. Let's see what the admin team has to say
And you know nowadays the cameras on a phone are so advanced
You know, that's one one Android phone that you can zoom 500 times. You know this
I do but I will say that you could give Dota 2 players the best
Camera in existence. You could buy them
You can go to Sony or whatever, like whatever top camera company, buy them that camera, set
it up for them and they will still find a way to show you their knees, they will, you
will only see their knees in a dark dingy room, might make you question whether they've
been kidnapped or whether they're at a boot camp, you get a bit concerned, you
know, sometimes they show these player camps and I'm like, should I call the police?
Have you been abducted?
Well, good news is no one's abducted. Everyone's ready to play and we'll get into game very
shortly. Back into the action. Sorry about that, folks. Just some technical issues on
the Na'Vi side, but we're ready to rumble with our second best of one of today. It's
Liquid vs Na'Vi Liquid. Apparently with a stable score of 2-2 against Na'Vi, who've
done a lot better than many people might have expected. 3-1 right now, taking some
very important wins. See whether they can continue that momentum. At this point, I feel
like you've distracted me very greatly with the talks of the food. I've lost track of
what we're supposed to know about also.
How convenient for you. Yeah, blame me. Yeah, it's my fault every time.
That's why you use this for winter. It's very fun to blame you. Oops.
All right, we know that's a word now.
Yeah, unfortunately, but let's go over again what we need to look out for in the draft because maybe, you know, we've been too distracted by tofu's handsome face.
What is the game plan here for liquid? What's the game plan here for Nabi? What are we looking out for in the first maybe 10, 15 minutes of the game?
That's going to be a tough one. I think liquid has a has a draft which could be snowball a lot.
I think both sides have very very very fast drafts and it's going to I think come down a lot into the rule control
It's the queen of pain against the storm matchup. Rune's are going to be very crucial on those two mid heroes
Probably not going to be able to do anything about that bounty rune
3 for 1
Yep, Liquid getting a better trade there off to a good start
Very important for Storm to get that little bit of extra gold so he can buy that extra south
You know normally in this matchup you need to buy stuff. I mean it's going to pain. Yeah, you were talking about liquid
Potentially able to snowball, but I can't imagine that Nisha's gonna have a good time into this queen of pain
Who will know very swiftly begin shadow striking him
This is a matchup designed to ruin your day
Box skin is bad
It's not very nice. He looks good to me. I dare say he's even looking pretty handsome.
Is this some type of monkey king bug? Like the animation of the cogs or something? Yeah,
why is it nothing? And hopefully nothing that a reconnect can't fix. I'm gonna get
down with the action, you know, and nobody wants to listen to us talk about having the
superior food, you know. Yeah, no, don't make us go down. Don't get us to that topic. You
guys don't regret it. Get us to a very, very touchy subject about who has the better chicken
rice, you know, it never ends. Well, it's more like the conversation more like goes,
say we have it better and I say whatever you say old man and then that's it so it's not
actually that bad okay yeah so I'm allowed to go there yeah sure I mean I just do the
thing where I ignore you so it works out fine for me I mean you say we're supposed to have
some teamwork right like not just the teams that we are watching but the casters also
need to have teamwork you know how would you rate uh how would you rate our teamwork
right now. That is tough. That is a tough one. Yeah, it's probably easier to talk about
what we have in front of our screens right now, which is Bozzi pulling the wave. Okay,
I guess this is standard gameplay for a post-core. Don't ask me that question. I know you're
gonna ask me. So what do you think about removing the creep pulling shen again? No,
no, I actually was wondering, like, is there any melee pause for lane at this point
that you actually want to pull. Yeah because in my mind when I look at AA, yes
he's a range hero that can put out a lot of harass but he also feels like the
type of range hero that if you get the tiny and the centaur in a good position
you can just you know possibly kill it. So is it that bad to play the lane?
To kill them you need the lanes to go to your side right so by pulling and
manipulating the creep waves you can actually get the waves in front of the
tower easily and then you might set up chances for whoa whoa whoa answer is taking so many
tower shots got to get that aggro off him oh yeah like pulling the wave actually creates
a lot of kill opportunities for gate ganking or tiny toss backs you know into the center
uh quick question for you winter how the hell is nisha twice the cs of this queen of pain
right now i don't want because coops killed scream at level one i don't know how much that
changes things but I saw him do that. This is definitely not supposed to happen
and I saw him having such a good time. Why the hell did he still scream at level 1?
Is that any other range? You need to secure the range. But sometimes we see players
they often in this matchup they prefer to do damage over securing the range. So
it's something that you need to really figure out in which matchup it's
important to do what you know. I think in the mid lane there's a lot of
different matchups where you are required to have a different skill build at level 1.
Even that additional decision is not going well for the fog at all.
Yeah, still kind of being doubled up on in this regard.
And you were right, Winter, that additional bounty rune helping the storm get to his bottle
he's eaten quite a few Shadow Strikes at this point but able to very much stand in the lane and pressure out this Queen of Pain.
So then the nice keep on flowing in the pressure keeps mounting
Yeah, Niku not really where he wants to be right now
Niku is supposed to be the one in this matchup that has more denies
You know the fact that the storm has an extra deny actually matters a lot
But Lane is this going according to plan and Mars kind of oh my god
Seven and one area. I know this is a hot lane
you know, that's an asset so you can kind of only hope to survive and you have to
wait for your A to get gank this asset. As if it's a very vulnerable hero to get gank
so you have to abuse it.
I look more like it here in the mid lane,
Nishen dropping very low.
As Viu Cheng goes to work with and is trying to control the runes but guess
what, Tofu is here. Very important rotation here.
This is the balance of the mid lane and this is really nice.
Bobsy, Asher's Riddies,
as looks to be a kill on the AA,
not the rotation that you wanted,
giving Nisha a very early galvanized charge,
but Tofu, he's been caught out by Zayac and Miniku as well.
Still able to walk this one off,
so this early game,
Na'Vi, they're not really getting
what they need out of this mid lane.
Yeah, Crop doesn't get the bottle refill,
so this is absolutely huge, you know.
And Somb is going to have
such an early level 6 this game.
this game. I don't think the court is gonna be able to pressure Nisha anymore here. Yeah.
Nisha doesn't even need to risk it right after clearing this wave you can just head back to the
jungle be safe with it or just stay in the lane because the queen of pain has no resources so Niku
now forced to just kind of stand around. Pretty tough for them so far and with the way that
this AA's early game has gone I don't know when he can actually afford the time to come
to the Twin Gates for a gank.
He has to try, you know, you can't just let the SF.
SF is just destroying the mask in the lane.
You have to kill the SF at least once in the early end.
Again, trying to find Tofu.
Last auto attack. Try for the body block.
TP out, PMA.
Heads up there. Try for the last raise.
Doesn't have the range.
It's still something for the Maas because he's not exactly getting much CS in the lane.
But this is not looking good for Na'Vi as a whole.
They're losing mid somehow.
bot lane is not going well because of the matchup.
So top lane is the only lane that's going somewhat alright for them.
24 and 8 on the mid ranger and center has 23 and 9.
Even that lane, Liquid is still doing fine.
early game, definitely very favorable for Leku.
Leku is looking to further that advantage by bringing both support with four resources here to contest
the six-minute rune. Aisha establishing himself in the bot.
Fortunately, it's going to be a rune spawned in the top lane. Niku can blink on over,
Tofu has to be very careful. And then a try.
Okay, at least the spawn is going to get the rune.
And Laker has been doing a very very good job just controlling the mid section of the map, you know, rewarding, securing the water runes, securing the power runes, just starving this Queen of Pain off resources, you know.
And that actually has a lot of implications in the game because the Queen of Pain is actually the biggest threat for the SF and if he's not having a good start, he's not having the resource then the SF can farm very safely.
Queen of Pain also is the call that you want to play through right with your clock and your
AA. It feels like this setup was made to try and back her up. You got the clock in front trying
to catch her setup and then the fallout damage from the AA to further amp up your solid waves
your screen of pains. Seven minutes wisdom Shrine Tofu is going to peek his head around
the corner to see whether he can get away with a sneaky steal but Na'Vi they're in position
like a one for one trade there.
Okay so Liquid is going to have a little bit of lower level of support since A is the one that picked up the Shrine.
Now we got the XP on both supports. Sometimes this sort of thing could actually matter.
Having you have Clock and A is definitely very very important that you get XP on the two supports you know.
Whereas for Liquid, it's Desert and Tiny. Tiny doesn't need level as much as the Desert.
So early game still going relatively well for Liquid, they are very very happy with the
outcome of the early game, they have secured all 3 calls, all 3 calls are able to farm
and it's all about just playing around the runes right, as long as the Crop does not
get a rune, the Crop is going to have a very quiet game.
He's going to come in, Ace is going to come in as well, Storm is pushing the port back.
He's no stampede yet on Ace, he's level 5.
On the Zyac they go and it's a very easy kill.
You can tell both teams understanding how important that was for Niku to get that.
but in the meantime, the juice comes down to the bottom lane, that's exactly what you need it.
Good TP down, but at the same time though, I feel like the trade isn't that bad for Liquid
because they got the regen rune on Storm.
I think this is actually as good as getting a kill on the side lanes, having Storm pick up a regen.
So let's see if he can actually utilize this to actually kill off someone on the side lane.
He's looking to do something with Boxy leading the charge here, going into enemy territory.
they saw the AA with the Observer Ward earlier, so they know he's around the area.
Water Capture means that they'll get spotted by Observer Ward right in Sentry Range as well.
Michelle will just clear that out and apply soft pressure, right?
They now know he's in the area, so they can't afford to step up in the lane
which gives Mr Ace a bit of a tender loving creep farming time.
This sort of move is really really important for the main lane.
You don't want to just be farming in your own jungle, the fact that you're positioning yourself aggressively
puts a great notice on your presence in the map at the center
Feels like he could play aggressive because you're around the area. Yeah, now he comes back to the mid lane finally
Probably looking to clear out the next wave
Maybe pressure, they could have made G2 has no blink
There's a bunch of sneak charges
Okay, have a lunch
Oh, he got the kill!
Holy...
That was insane. That was insane that he actually realized that he can kill him there.
Was that just off of him seeing the blink cubes?
Yeah, it was just the blink. He saw the blink and he decided that he could get the kill.
Step B doesn't come out in time.
The still ace will be able to escape and now God the juice in trouble.
Nisha is doing everything for the team right now.
One last sit in for God the juice and the God's review will not find him.
Is he still in the midst of that ball lightning? Nisha, he is turning on right now for Liquid.
He is so damn good.
Waiting his lane, getting that kill on the co-op and then keeping top to kill the carry of Navi.
Those were such impactful plays for Liquid's early game.
Now they have a 3k gold just at 10 minutes. This is such a big one.
Look, I feel like in the trend with all the games that we've casted, people are trying
to counter-hit these heroes in the lanes, it's just not working out.
A setup attempt there from Navi as PMA storms in with the arena looking towards Topu, and
a grave available in one save him from the Ice Blast, though Navi find at least one
pick off.
Still looking towards Boxy's Sonic Wave, being held on for now, but Navi will be
happy of forcing the reaction of Mikkei down to the mid lane.
That is not worthy for the rotation and now you have to bring in the arena just to kill the support.
But that's the problem right, the storm is just having such impact in the game that you feel like you have to try and do something to address it.
And that's causing them a lot right now.
How many they need to be able to you know kill Nisha somehow even the next area
They have to find a way to kill him to stop this snowball
At least try to reduce that galvanized accident. He's been getting such a free game so far
But you know that storm has a shield rune so any sort of a move you make in the next 15-20 seconds
Not gonna find him. He's the one of the prowl actually
They try and target this Queen of Pain wherever she's hiding.
Just be Zyac that they run into another Galvanized Axe, so I can easily pick it up.
Kill.
Alright, well Niku finally nets himself a rune after all this time.
Guess that's something?
still doesn't slow Nisha down though, it's a problem.
Yeah, they're gonna lose the tier one tower, mate.
Like, you pick Qwap into Storm, and you're losing your tier one tower,
this is not supposed to happen at all.
Yeah?
Every single one of these lane counterpicks just really not working out for the team
trying to win off of that laning stage.
Thanks for the question, Nabi. What else does the lineup have to offer?
Oh boy.
Are you serious?
There's just a Nishashio right there, you know?
He still has a stick.
Plenty of stick chargers.
Pops it.
Goes back to farming.
Oh, this is looking like the pub.
This is looking like what happens when you get a smurf in your game
and the guys just roll in over the enemy team.
Bro, if I'm ace in this game, I'm laughing.
I just thank you for the...
Thank you, Gaben, for the free plus 25.
You know?
He's under attack.
You ever see that clip of the politician smurfing is only good if it happens to me
If the smurfs on my team I can accept it. That's what it feels like right now. Nisha is dogging on these kids
I don't know bullying was encouraged in liquid this is cruel
Getting a kill into the shrines here doesn't get the toss off
one of those battery assault things kind of annoying for the tiny now there's one more
there's prog storm as well yeah lago hasn't really been having a good time in the best
of one so far but if I percent win rate even though it's picked you worry the musician
will be back I'm sure he will I don't know whether we'll like it but that's another
story here's a setup arena onto the top lane ace throws out the stampede but that's
That's exactly why they picked the Mars, unfortunately the walls will not allow you to escape and
liquid they lose their off later here, much, much needed kill for Navi.
Yeah, surprise he actually went up the lane so relatively, when his team is not really
there yet, they are coming through the 3-grade, they are coming over to your team, I wanna
say that at least 20 seconds away from connecting to him, when he actually went
up.
So a little bit of a misplay there from Ace, when they are there right now,
Foxy is here, he's not coming over first.
I mean this should have happened without the Centaur dying.
Yeah.
He just went a little bit too early.
But it's fine though because if Centaur was there he might have gotten the kill.
It's so important that he shall completely looks like the boss.
Now Centaur finds himself in the mid lane.
He looks dead.
And finds himself dead again.
You see?
That one death on Fox is us.
I think he's dying again because he has the 3k mid to defend that lane.
Like all these sort of things actually matter you know.
This is giving Navi a sort of like a lifeline you know.
I think if those 2 left didn't happen, Navi would be like say 5k behind
and then game would be looking very, very difficult
but right now it seems like he's still manageable of 3k behind
and when you feel like one good arena into a sonic wave, you could still turn the game around.
One thing about this is a man of the people you know
of being handsome and successful at Dota 2. He loves to help kids out.
Giving Na'Vi Junior Na'Vi Junior Na'Vi a lifeline here.
It's hard for me to accept them as Na'Vi because in my heart, they're always Na'Vi Junior.
You know these guys pop in on the scene, fighting the success.
Refusing to accept your kid has grown up.
Well, the thing is they haven't proven us wrong yet, right?
Growing up is one thing, but they haven't really made it past this current stage of many of their tournaments yet
They'll make it maybe into
The land stages and then they'll just peter out quietly tofu speaking of petering out nice motors at the very last moment
Meanwhile, Nisha just gets his mandatory every minute kill
All right
Question of the day, how do you stop Nisha?
This is the downside of going dagger first here, because the game is bad, you know, that he feels like he needs to go dagger first on the Mars.
Usually in this matchup against Storm, you have to buy use to catch him here.
And without use, it's very very difficult to get a good setup onto the Storm.
And if you're not killing him, and if he's continuously stacking up the galvanized stack,
the fact that because he understands that there's no way that he dies, he can farm so aggressively.
And that's causing so many problems for Nabi here.
I'm gonna get him.
Is that a eternal shroud? I see on Nisha. My goodness.
It's gonna be a sick item for him this game.
You weren't killing him before. How are you gonna kill him now?
A lot of the windranger damage is not even physical, right?
It's magical coming out from the maelstrom.
It's actually very, very nice here at this game, as long as he doesn't die and get some mana back, I think it's the perfect item for this game.
It's not often that you see this item being purchased nowadays, but I think this is in fact a really, really good game for it.
And he has the network, right? I feel like most of the time the discussion with Eternal Shroud is a bit too expensive to fit into your build,
but with how strong Nisha is, he's happy to slot that in there, boxy with his blink dagger ready to rumble.
He has been given an extra large budget this game to do for the early months.
Yeah.
This is what you want, right? We were talking about Liquid and how they would be able to succeed.
A nice win probability there for them as well.
But you talk about the tax brackets somewhat jokingly.
I think in any game that Liquid is going to succeed, if you had the opportunity to pull your resources towards Nisha in this way,
way it has been a winning strategy for them over the course of history why not
it's a shame because I feel like when Navi are on the mainstream they're popping
off they're picking some cool heroes they got Niku mid Bristleback rolling
people over and then Navi come to the B stream and then it's just like okay
what are we looking at right now folks what do we got we got a mid queen of
Last pick losing her lane. We got a wind ranger who's been an absurdly quiet PMA is struggling with a capital S
What's going on?
And you're just getting me shot, you know, he's getting all the mostly every room on the storm
On terrain the temple of the game is nothing you can do, you know
I feel like the leg of the use on the mask actually hurting him so much
You know like I feel like he needs he actually needs to go use this game
so that they have a kill threat onto the storm, you know, and you're going to get it finally,
and a bit more, but I don't know if they are going to be in time to contest or mentor
here. It's going to come up in 40 seconds. Liquid is very, very strong right now with
the aura, so yeah. And Boxy, he's gotten this Blink Dagger for the past two minutes
already, not finding anyone on Navi because they're cowering on the other side of
the map. The only thing that Navi have kill threat on right now are creeps.
I mean, he's, uh, he's been left the job of picking up the dirty farm and maybe that
will cost him his life.
Oh my god.
That is so lucky.
Not with that stop.
Not with that stop.
My goodness.
That was actually so lucky.
I mean, in some ways, he also felt like he needed to clear the crate quickly there
because he didn't feel safe.
But that actually ended up helping him.
slow mo that shit come out. I'm not
just trying to clear the creeps.
That was such a big deal there.
Now, it means that the tormentor is going to go
in the good way and cannavi find
that smart. That is very, very smart.
They wait on that ice blast out, saw it land and then they go into the tormentor.
Make sure no casualties. Just playing it all the way
Amidly, I was gonna be in jeopardy Niku able to blink away even use that glyph but the catapult can you kill in time?
Okay, no gold for you now, you know
Oh, Navi, this is a real rough position for them
21 minute move on to the wisdom shrine Navi are not even there because they know this could be happening
Liquid hitting all their timings, checking all the boxes here, five tickets to the Nisha
show, Navi forced to watch against their will.
This is like when your parents bring you out for a musical that you have no interest
in as a child.
You just sit there, twiddle your thumbs.
It's not where you want to be at all.
There's a big blue man on the stage electrifying you with his performance and nothing you
can do.
I'm going to pick perhaps on Jniku, stamp you in to get the rest of the team involved
and Jniku will draw again.
Man, this is such a master class on Jniku, the way they move on the map, the way they
are positioning heroes, the way they are catching, and now they're going to move into Rosh.
There's nothing Navi could do.
Maybe they can try to steal the Roshan, steal the Aegis, that's probably the best
I don't think I can do it here.
Ice Blast got to slow things down a little bit, but without the threat of the Sonic Wave
Liquid are not concerned in the Sniper's.
We had a bit of long-range artillery to work with, I just noticed this in the team,
right, Na'Vi, they've got Power Shot, Sonic Wave, Clockwork, Rocket Flare and Ice Blast.
I never noticed it because honestly I don't think we've noticed Na'Vi at all in this
game.
able to execute any clean moves feels like the only thing they've done is pick
off ace twice. That's about it.
Yeah the clock and a duel hasn't really been able to accomplish too much you know
but I think a lot of it is down to the fact that you pick a clock as a counter
pick to the storm and you're not winning your lane so it kind of doesn't
allow your supports to do anything in the game you know and not to mention the
Mars not going to use so it doesn't they don't really have a lot of very
very reliable catch against the storm you know.
Quietly farming up Storm, Mr. Maked here.
Yeah, I mean SF is going to be the biggest problem now you know.
The storm has already taken all that passion away so Maked had such a free game the whole
time and he's going to start to be a problem for Nami.
Got to try and set up, start with a shackle, doesn't let go, easy glimmer away, boxy's
got to look for the target.
They gave up the Stomp, trying to interrupt it, but they just can't get Juice out of here.
Stomp in, Spear away, maybe Juice will be fine, hiding behind the arena, and the Wind Ranger will walk away.
Poison Touch doesn't manage to tick him down, he's still fine, they're trying to give him a Lotus.
The last bit of an avalanche box he will find him!
Oh, Liquid! Leave no survivors!
They thought you got away? Bad news bears for you, Navi.
continuing to tumble in front of the might of liquid and they used almost
everything other than the sonic wave in that fight too so you weren't defending
that tier 2 how you gonna defend the tier 3
we're not defending anything right now if you're not me
there's too much in too much initiation too much sustained from the tiny
I think the best thing they can do on Na'Vi side is to sit in the base and just wait, just wait for the high ground push and maybe they can actually get an important teamfight victory there, get a good arena and spear back.
They'll try to smoke up, set up for something, maybe put Mickey in a bad spot.
There's the spear back, ice blast, Mickey in trouble.
He doesn't have the ages, but he has the grave.
He's not long for this world, though.
Still got to try and put out some damage before going down doesn't get the chance to.
But the problem is, the rest of Liquid, they're very happy in this situation.
Stampede finally comes out to save Boxy and in comes the stun from Ace, looking for God the juice.
They found the two supports and they're looking for the balls now.
Spear will keep Nisha at bay for now, but another avalanche, another toss.
Foxy, he's been on point with these combos.
Ace is dropping low, but Toku's still keeping his buddy alive.
The spear's not gonna latch, the dazzle will finally drop,
but it's all the niche-a-show as he's dancing back and forth.
Niku, you try and blink away, Foxy.
Pacing up to the high ground, maybe a bit too deep now.
Gotta respect the damage coming out from that fresh agonies from the Queen of Pain.
That's what did them in.
At least for now, Navi will hold.
And that was exactly what they needed. I got a really really good spear back onto Mekkei there.
Starting the fight in a very very nice way.
But like you said, you know, Nisha is still unkillable in the teamfights. They can't even do anything to him.
He's just dancing around, getting kills after kills.
And this was as good as the start you can hope for, you know, for Nami.
Getting the SF in under your tower, you drop your load of spells, you kill him.
But the fight is just still so difficult, you see.
Storm was just dancing around the edges of the fight going in going out
They used a stampede to cut in cut out and then ace finds an opening here to allow storm to get another kill
Like sure you might feel the SF but SF is not the only problem
Now Zai's dead again Boxy with another setup
Just so easy for them now
I do want to point out in the previous fight that Nisha did a whole bunch of damage right here
He did five thousand eight hundred damage, but the person who did the most damage is actually Niku
like I said the agonims think it's gonna start to rack up these heroes don't
have dispells on them and they will be taking a lot of damage from these
shabby strikes they have to be careful not to be grouped up for too long and
allow niku to get off these spells yeah the same time there's a kind of counter
access to it and just keep healing all this like smaller heals low CD heals
which are healers or heals they are really really good against the
pin of pain agonims okay because it doesn't burst you right away so you
given time to actually sustain and see that we may help him.
Looks pretty good for Navi in that previous fight. Maybe it won't be a factor if Tofu can get more and more heals off, we'll have to see.
They weren't too concerned about finding the Dazzle in particular in that fight mostly because they were busy getting overwhelmed on Navi, but yeah.
They have to find him. They have to kill him first.
You have to get past the big center and the big asset in front, you know, and the storm
spray is falling around.
Yeah, the problem is he has a shot.
So even if you're hook shopping him, stunning him, he can still north of project and maybe
even grave himself with meter.
Oh yeah, that's true.
He got the shot from the top.
Yeah, it's a very, very big shot.
This dazzle hero, I think it's very underrated.
Hard to make work because he doesn't really give your team catch right but so
pasty to be away.
She's storm coming in again, stand key, have a lanage, bye bye juice.
Again, Liquid just having a firm grip onto the game you know.
Legion placed on the side of the map, very very important, I always highlight this but you know
when you're having a huge lead you want to always have vision along the edges of the map
to catch the red heroes trying to sneak farm on the corners of the map, there's one on the bottom
and one on top. It's so sad right because we look at the map the way that Navi have structured their
vision, it's pretty defensive, they have centuries littering the entire jungle area, so you would think
liquid, they're probably not going to know where farming here, the liquid in their own
way have been able to sneak wards in areas that you don't even see, so really good warding
here from Liquid, like you mentioned, to further that advantage more and more. I think the Storm
Spirit, much like a Puck that you always like to say, if he can buy zero defensive items in the game,
he's feeling so happy. That's exactly what we see, right? Going into the Prasmar after
that Eternal Shot, I'd even dare say Eternal Shot's less defensive and more like greedy offensive,
right? Because that allows you to just keep going in. Yeah, I suppose you could say that,
When you have Storm being so rich from the start, the Eternal Shroud is more like a
snow-boarding item rather than a defensive item.
I mean the fact that Eternal Shroud is even an option in the shop window you're considering
is a sign of how strong you are right now.
I think any other game you're even or behind, you queue up that Eternal Shroud, you get
reported for griefing.
say where's your BKB fool?
Navi's gonna get a hex on the mast so this hopefully would be the answer to all these
storm issues they're having in the game.
The question is whether they can even burst Nisha down even if they hex him though.
Yeah, they have to figure out how to actually deal with the desert so when they're going
onto the storm somebody needs to kill the desert, at least stop him from getting
wave off which like you already mentioned he has a shot so it's going to be extremely difficult.
I mean we talked so much about Nisha, we talked about Mikkei, we talked about Tofu.
He haven't even mentioned bossing. This guy's a glane out of his mind. Every single one of these
avatar setups. It's been clean, it's found two heroes, it brings fresh meat right into Nisha's
pockets. Nice blast clockwork and barely scratches them. That's the only shot he has
right now the long range artillery yeah less of long range artillery and more of
like a long range water gun just kind of slashing them in the face this is team
liquid so they're not gonna be fazed at all by that water attacks are useless
bros never played Pokemon you don't get it you get same type attack bonus
you don't get same type attack bonus on the guy it's you wouldn't get it
Fine. Yeah, try using a hydro pump on a Blastar's here, don't even know what I mean.
You just lost it off, he's that brother, you giving me a wash or what was the deal?
Didn't know we were getting showers for free.
You trying to call me stinky? That what this is?
Being retreat out. Oh, I saved that. That's not, no, that's not...
Anyone but Juice, man.
It's tough for him, there's no reason in the game for Mavi, so the carry kind of doesn't
really feel like he has a lot of room to play on the map, and often times when the game reaches
a state like this, you're going to see a lot of random deaths happening on the map.
People are going to die if you're unable to create some sort of momentum in the game,
this is just the reality of the situation Mavi is living in at the moment.
idea but maybe they can try and find at least to pick up onto boxy start off with
the hex the tiny all alone here able to dodge his fear and use himself keeping
himself safe trying for the TP that is ballsy he's not gonna get away with that
one but Niku being spotted out by ace then his cancel shadow strike will stop
him and keep the horse at bay I want to say it should be a clean retreat
because there's no way that ace can catch up but he's trying to give the
vision from Mickey and Nisha to come back in. DMA didn't have to use the
arena earlier they'll have to be wary of that. In escape. Okay that's the hex reveal I guess
but Nisha is about to get a Lincoln Sphere and about 600 gold. I still don't know.
You also use your BKB on the mask right so Roshan is going to be up. It is in fact
already up you know so how are you going to contest it? They can't really afford
If this is going to be their last stand on an army site, they have to find an angle to approach this Roshan.
Okay, with that being said, Mikkei did also use his BKB.
So the SF is susceptible to being caught as well.
Liquid are currently a bit split up, trying to shove out these waves and farm up in the jungle.
If Navi can actually strike and catch two or three of them off guard, it could be huge.
Ace on the front line, so first target, gonna get Hex, gonna get pulled back in.
Nice Avalanche proxy, putting a stop to it.
They get a big sonic wave, it's nice, but I think it's not available but we've already taken down two.
Nisha in trouble now, gonna get caught.
The grave is not gonna save him here, he's gonna take us to the ice blast, still surviving on the sliver?
He's fine.
The ice ghost actually ended and then he got healed by the grave, you know.
Oh, so he lives there, it was the end.
That's the projection grave coming out.
That was really close, I mean, Nabi, they did a great job starting this fight, but look at Boxy again.
Huge avalanche on to three. Zayac tries to come in and salvage things. The victory piece actually keeps these navi heroes alive
It's a very big deal. They're able to turn around get a nice shackle on Tunisia, but still not getting him
Back to life ball. I mean just dodging the last take there
That was as good of a innovation you can ask for you know
Catching three heroes in the arena and getting a huge ice block off
still not enough. And they found the Roche, they found Zayac in the bot lane. Now Micky with their ages
they'll feel a lot more comfortable pressuring these towers as liquid in these next few moments
after they fix up the lane equilibrium they're going to be going for those remaining structures.
They AD rune potentially for the storm to grab.
I mean Navi could somehow find a way to survive this AS maybe they're going to have like a
pretty decent shot at coming back in the game because the Wing Ranger is actually starting to
feel like she can actually output enough damage together with the corp to win the team fight.
So if they can somehow hold on to the game or she has to survive here.
Sticking around to try and fire a couple of arrows, those that we know have no back
yet need neither beautiful hurricane pike up to the high ground to slide out of the
trouble. They seem make a hungry for some kills will get stopped in his tracks with
of an Ice Blast, Mikkei will lose that Aegis with ease! Still has the BKB coming out of
the second life here. Well, Winter, Aegis survived!
It's not a lot of talk, it's on the run. I mean, it's something to see this SF being
so vulnerable, and if he's not standing next to a Zerze, it's actually so easy to kill.
Yeah, it's the magic burst, right? The fact that the Sentor also wasn't there.
You talk about these Auras but there's an area of effect. You kinda need a stand next to your SF for him to be survivable.
It just wasn't there to save in time.
I mean Liquid, they're trying to min-max the map by bringing Boxy and Nisha on these hunting parties but
it's very hard for the rest of the Team Liquid members to connect.
And we're seeing that separation cost them a bit here.
They are just like one side fight away from allowing Na'Vi to have full control of the
game.
I think Na'Vi can actually find one good arena.
They managed to kill off the Storm, you know Storm still has 0 deaths and he has
RK root now, but if they can somehow find a way to kill him with Hex, this game
could turn along in a heartbeat.
The Nisha show is still running.
It's in the second act right now.
The Liquid fans are asking for a non-core.
They're asking for a duo, but they want juice.
He's trying desperately to get away,
but he's got nowhere to win run to.
Thought out by Liquid, this time they connect.
And Nisha, he's still dancing all over them
against their wills.
Be careful of Mikado.
Now the backup of Boxie, the rest of Navi will retreat.
I mean you get these kills but I do agree with you Winter, I think you get these pickoffs
but if you find one right moment where PMA can get set up, it could still come back
from this.
I don't know what kind of items the SF needs to get in order to stop that burst from happening.
It really is the Dazzle saver, maybe ace even with his agonist sector,
but we haven't really seen the card come out to full effect just yet.
Yeah. I think he just has to play a little bit more cautious and make sure that he's not too far away from the center of the Dazzle.
My Storm is the only one that can kind of be a little bit more aggressive in his positioning, but not the SF.
Juice up in 15 seconds.
Niku will show that respect.
They have to. They don't have the Aegis anymore.
It's kind of nice. It might seem like they have a Trump game.
It might be like a substationary but I don't think it's actually that big.
One wrong move.
Now maybe we'll take full control of the game.
So, Liquid has to still approach the game very, very cautiously.
Ace on the front lines, we'll get initiated on again, this is how Na'Vi won their previous
fight, Ice Blast in, Grave is out, we are not surviving this one, even with the heal
Ace will run on forward to try and distract them, but it's a dead horse again, 90 seconds,
that's a die back for Ace, not his cleanest game on the Centaur War Runner, and how
crazy would it be, Winter, if after all this, somehow Na'Vi are able to pull
it back. Nisha he's playing out of his goddamn mind. It feels like the recipe you haven't
really kept up yet.
Bro, he's 25. He just bought BKB and Storm is 25 you know and if he gets the shot I think
it's gonna be so difficult. Storm level 25 plus his shot is I think along the lines
of being crazy in late game you know if you're comparing it to something maybe like
boot mother level late game you know.
Bro.
I mean, I'm just wondering to myself if it's really just Nisha boxy versus all
Is it going to be enough Navi?
The whole shot they got the ice blast these are very difficult spells to take a head-on fight into
It's the hex from the Mars is keeping they need to change the spells to kill him, but he has a Lincoln
So they need someone to break the linkence
What are your options even to
Mars doesn't have a U so he can't break it
It's only a cold heat
Atoll's shadow strike
Which is weird
It's difficult
It's not easy you know
You can say that again
He has to somehow find a spear
Dagger into spear on the storm
Which is going to be difficult
Oh you say
Was it difficult or easy?
right very difficult very difficult okay nothing's gonna be easy against a
15-0 stone brother correct some might say it's difficult
now the edge is kind of making the game a little bit easy for now you know
that's how that's what I'm saying this guy's a man of the people he's out here
He's out here helping them out
He's just you know I
Wonder whether a BKB would serve him better here than his win-waker approach
Because right now we're seeing an issue where he's yeah getting caught out first and blown up by the magic damage
He needs to be KB and run into the arena to get the cut off on the asset right most likely yeah
I can see that
Panabi able to sneak a tormentor away now you got the gale force to work with not
sure how much of an entire is gonna have in the fight jump in there yeah mate
will keep Nisha off his carry forcing the BKB but they got it oh my god that
was the first death is this it Panabi this is the beginning of the contact
you gotta stampede the hell out of there this is no longer a fight you
can win Nisha feeling strong with the level 25 and his fresh BKB gets
It's caught out by the hook shot.
Syed from downtown.
I mean, how did they even?
The rest of the team just wasn't in position or what?
We're just too far away on the stone.
Some might call it difficult.
That looked pretty easy to me.
Yeah, that was not ace making it easy.
That was Nisha making it easy for Nabi.
Nisha's doing aces performance.
If I say stand back, look what I can do.
There's the initiation, Requiem out, got the juice in trouble, and the carry of Na'Vi will drop as well.
Now it's Na'Vi on the run.
Ice Blast coming on through, Niku thinking about the counter initiation.
PMA doesn't have the arena to work with, but Wilkin, that burst shadow team, into a tower, and he gets blown up!
The magic burst is there! Na'Vi! They're finding a way here!
They're trying to force the buybacks out from Liquid, but Liquid...
I think they understand at this point, this fight is not theirs to win no longer.
Niku's gonna come back in second round of spells, Boxy's still very tanky.
Sun come through A's trying to keep them away.
But nothing to really stop Niku in this regard and Nabi,
finding something out of nothing over and over again.
Now this is actually really bad for Liquid all of a sudden.
Now the game is not only back to 1550, I would even say it's
probably now the favorite, you know, because the scaling of the corp,
The AA, the Windranger, those are heroes that are very very strong when it comes to late game.
And your asset just feels like it's paper now, you know, you can't be saved by the grave because of the AA.
And this was a nice attempt to burst the Windranger,
not an attempt by the assassination of the Windranger.
But when it came to the latter portion of the fight, the moment asset has no BKB,
he can't really stand up to the magic damage. The Crop, the Ice Blast,
he just dies to all the spell damage.
Yeah, really sick Clockwork hookshot from Zyac there to chain the stuns. There's such a hard line to find but
he's been on point. First the kill onto the storm in his own base and now
bringing the Shadow King down and a bit of stacking of the
I guess saves there from Liquid in a way, right? The SF had popped his BKB
but Ace still puts him on the cart. I mean, I understand the cart's out at that point
so Might as well just pop him in it but Liquid they are so susceptible without their BKB
was already talking about Niku from the start with this agonies the amount of
damage that he deals has to be respected and liquid they've not shown that
respect at all blink and you'll miss it Navi they're back in this game with an
aegis for their win yeah even in the driver's seat right now even though
liquid has still a 3 kelly but this is nothing like Navi is in firm control of the game
right now they are the ones that are head if they find one more kill on the storm I
I think that's going to be it for Liquid, as of right now, Liquid still has some decent chances, they can't really afford any mess-ups anymore.
No bad kills, no bad initiations, nothing, they have to play team Dora from now on.
No more champion work for the children, but Nisha is going to get caught by a shackle.
Oh no, Nisha!
We have to enter the cart, A-step with the save. The Grave goes off on the wrong target and that puts Topu in the tough spot.
He'll be the one to get caught.
He may now chain-stunned up, still forced up, will get right-click down.
Nisha and Mickey finally able to do the damage in the fight.
They're finishing off the backline, getting these naughty targets and forcing out the buybacks.
Got the juice, will die on his first life, but they found Mickey in the back.
Sonic Wave onto Bossy, Niko is doing everything, turning things around.
It was all the Nisha's show up earlier, but now it's the Queen of Pains time to shine.
And got the juice.
Her comeback ready to put some arrows in him.
Liquid continuing to struggle. I mean that the way that Starfleet...
Niku is just tired of being the background noise the whole game. Now it's finally his time.
Nisha is no longer being able to challenge the quad.
They kind of save him here but they put their other teammates in a very very dangerous position
so the Dezlo has to die for this and they can't really fight anymore.
and because there's more aggames that couldn't really save the S there after that.
There's a slight misstep there unfortunately for KMA,
he jumps forward looking for more but gets caught on the Vortex,
so really nicely done for Nisha,
and you can see just how strong Nisha still is,
but nobody is answering Niku.
Niku is stronger right now.
Niku is in fact stronger, that's what it feels like at the moment.
Doing 8500 damage in that fight with the double sonic waves,
he is exploding these heroes.
The initiations are so cool, so Amisha can't afford to be pinned against a tree.
He can't afford to be caught first.
I don't think he can afford to just show casually.
Because he was walking up in the lane trying to clear, I think his team was behind him.
In that particular case, Ace does a good job getting him out,
but it puts Topu in a bad spot and then maybe they kind of get somewhat baited by PMA,
He amazed looking for more so they turn around they kill the mass but then after they kill the mass all their bkbs have run out and then
Niku just goes to town I
Kind of feel like liquid even if a fight breaks out and even if your heroes are in trouble
You need to put someone on Niku. He can't be allowed to just have the free fight that he's he has been finding for himself
Back to this area in the mid lane
That's where the fight commenced a bit earlier tofu able to blink out of
Trouble there almost got caught
And this was looking like a very straightforward game winter it was looking like Nisha
Would draw the curtains on this poor Navi squad but back down to a 50-40 win probability Navi
It's all about the initiations for both sides if they can find that hex into the arena
They can burst down anybody the liquid have the saves and liquid have an initiation of their own that they're trying to put out
right now smoke move up liquid ready to strike and liquid has to find a jump on
this a you know I think the a is a very big problem in the fights forget about the
co-op they need to kill the easy targets first the a is disrupting the
fights a lot you can't feel you can't save it at that's what he needs to die
dodge completely the separate direction liquid hunting up towards the bot lane
tier 2 area of Na'Vi but Na'Vi repositioning back in the opponent triangle.
It's a game of cat and mouse right now, both teams trying to get high ground
advantage with a wall to force the fight in a terrible location and Na'Vi is
not giving anything to Liquid right now.
So tense because the buyback situation is fast right? I don't think Liquid
expected to be in this position at all.
Though they are five out on the storm,
they buy back on Centaur and Tiny.
But Dazzle and Shadowfiend are still missing the gold,
similar scenes for Na'Vi.
If Niku does get picked off and killed,
he doesn't have a way of returning into this fight.
Zyatt bought back a bit earlier as well.
Well, try and scout out the Liquid heroes
in Proxy on the front lines off the mark
with a hookshot, though that's awkward.
Still hiding away, Exist there.
He's been caught by the arena, Proxy in trouble.
Where's the rest of Liquid?
Not in position to help him for now.
He'll help himself.
Telling wave gonna come through, thinking about putting him in the cloud, he'll get in there.
Saved up for now, looks like Nisha's initiated in.
He's looking for a target, but has to escape.
Kind of fought to full commit for these navi backline heroes.
That was such a messy fight from both sides.
No one fully committing to a kill.
They were just waiting, trying to poke and prod.
Nobody really just feeling confident to go in.
Knowing that one wrong move could result in the game just ending right away.
So both teams actually make cautious there.
Big, big neutral item for Mr. Nisha here with the Flayers, Bota and the Timeless. He's got 6% spell amp.
I'm looking to blast these heroes away, but...
Kind of feels like Na'Vi, past 45 minutes of attending the Nisha show, they're getting used to the notes.
understand his dance patterns. They've found a way in such moments to lock down this storm.
And for the first time in this game, he's no longer sitting at the top of the net worth.
He's been overtaken by Niku. A bad sign for all the Liquid fans, hoping for a great start to the
day. Radies will show himself stampede in, and that's going to be a mistake from the AA.
He talked about him needing to go down first. He will drop and lose the gem while he's at it.
I'm playing that way versus a storm.
I definitely can't, you don't have to show respect.
It's still Nisha after all.
He has a buyback in case they need it.
It seems like they want to use his buyback here on Niku's team position.
He has to be fresh here already.
They want to try to get the assassin agent on one hero here.
Double sonic wave to blow someone up.
Ideally one of the calls in SF especially.
Jem lost, just trying to keep an eye out for any major items here, level 25 hit across the board, I mean Ace is really close to his
maybe the whiff-stomp duration can help him keep these heroes locked down even further, you got 180 HP regen with the arena
Pookers fire can go in advance
You know what they need? Mike, they need the axe storm to pull into the sample stomp
and if they can actually do that, they're going to be Gucci, you know?
They have so many big AoE spells like the Reckless
The stun for Tiny is a stun from Sectorhawk.
You can definitely absolutely win off a very good full.
Oh that's odd.
You might see it happen here.
It's Niku positioned around this area with the rest of his squad.
Navi will pull it out and extract themselves from that potentially scary situation.
I mean, on paper you look at the heroes of Liquid, there's this ideal teamfight that could play out.
Same situation for Navi right? They also have insane teamfight potential.
arena into Sonic Wave into Ice Blast. It could all look so cute but the fights have just been
completely chaotic. Whatever plan that they had goes out the window immediately because
things just get so messy. Hard to keep track of everything going on with Nisha zipping around
and Niku on the back lines. These two mid laners have disrupted everything for their opponents.
It's really a battle between them right now. Nisha versus Niku.
Oh, Niku's alone.
And the mid lane Niku, just when we were talking about him, he's gonna be in trouble.
Come through with the toss and the push stop.
What are you doing there Niku?
That's your fault Mike.
You were glazing him and he felt like he was competent to walk up alone.
We are supposed to be too loud but here's PMA looking for the catch onto Topu.
They won't get him in the car.
team of backline. Zaya and Riddies in big trouble, Mikkei shackled up though.
That's good! Nisha is going to drop. Nicely done from God the Juice, he could potentially
clean up this fight. Nice very pain fight to push Mikkei away. The Windranger is still
doing so much work for Navi and KMA here on the front lines. Looking for a spear,
we'll just find Boxy able to blink out. Aeon this prop for the Masters trying to
body from God the Juice to do the work. Not allowing Mikkei to get back into the
BKB is there, got the juice though, he's not got any cooldowns to work with, has the hurricane
pipe back to the low ground. They don't think that Navi was still gonna try for that fight
regardless of their loss of the Queen of Pain. They still managed to find Nisha somehow.
4 vs 5 and they traded 2v2. How on earth that actually happened? That was crazy.
They were somehow able to just burst Nisha down doing the early run spear.
I mean, got the juice where it had a crazy shackle. We'll see it again. Like he mentioned
a tofu going down first. That's a big component, right? The fact that they jump over the tiny and catch him
Ace couldn't save and they get the hex off on the storm which completely disables him and look at that shackle
Nisha has no room to play the fight whatsoever. He didn't choose to pop the BKB early and he pays for it with his life
Nice little hurricane pipe from juice as well the Requiem
but at that point it pushes Juus so far back out of the outskirts of the fight
that even though PMA is trying to create space for him to come back in,
Navi can't clean up anymore.
Just goes to show how dynamic Navi's lineup is, right?
Even without Niku, Juus can get it done,
but you don't really get that same feeling from Liquid.
You imagine, once Niku goes down, the SF is so susceptible
and it has to be the rest of Liquid almost clamoring over Mikkei to try and save him.
Press these spells in but the kill threat from any one of these navi heroes
It's definitely there. They just have to go like in the center or trying to have to make the first move
They need to create a divergence so that
The staff can actually come in during the second initiation to get a good
ball text after a couple of years and then they can combo that with the rector
And that needs to happen for liquid, you know, like all the teamfights. It's just been very very disjointed
You know for liquid they're not really lining up the spells well
So, you know, last two team fights, you shot body has to buy hex, might just happen here
onto the high ground, juice, you gotta watch yourself, Avalanche onto two, that's a good
star ace, they're going in like you asked for with a huge rev-rium, Zionk is out, buy
that immediately, juice low HP and the pause was there and it does not feel good.
And there you are, unfortunate.
And it's gonna give both teams time to figure out their next plan, you know.
You look really good for Liquid, but with the pause now, I'm not so sure anymore.
Maybe they're gonna just disengage and get out.
I mean, Storm is still stunned, but do they have the burst damage to actually kill him here?
I mean, let's take stock of the fight right now, right?
Because Niko's throwing out a sonic wave.
They still have Hex.
Yeah, you got a Hex.
You still have the BKB, so you know Miki is gonna be mashing that button as soon as
he comes out.
I love it when you resist.
It depends on who they Hex as well.
You gotta keep in mind that Pofu and his projection are right there, so he has
that grave save unless somebody reaches into the backline and gets him they
should survive on liquid I think the bigger question is whether Navi can
actually disengage from this fight we'll find out very shortly as we get back
into the game juice is very low and he needs to find a way to kill himself
back up perhaps with a satanic in the ice boss the magic damage is huge but
they saved me shot with the car to use up to keep them controlled Niku he's
trying to do his best to get the backline juice he's taking a lot of
every turn damage on the ace to focus fire down in the second vortex.
Niku gets caught and Niku gets killed.
Juicy's gonna have to gain back to the high ground.
Don't be away from their sets of attacks.
They still haven't taken down Nikkei.
Finally coming in, but the last Sonic wave won't be able to do it.
A power shot from downtown.
Got the juice to find him, but another avalanche, another vortex.
Nisha just keeps pulling them back in.
And now he'll get hexed, now he'll get focused down.
And Nisha finally the monster falls.
The Biobags and the Outpost helping Navi salvage that fight.
There was such a close fight for both sides and it could have ended really, really bad for Liquid or it could have ended really bad for Navi.
So somehow the Biobags just kept the fight going and now Navi is going to be able to get the Aegis onto the final tank.
This is after the pause. They were able to save the storm, the SF gets out, the fight continues.
continues, but Navi just had more in the tank after Niku dies the first time.
He's going to buy back TP to the shrine and clean the fight up.
I think it's one of those plays where you look at maybe Niku and you ask yourself,
did you really need to do that?
But the answer is yes, because look at God, the juicest HP.
Since the first jump he was already so low, it's hard for him to commit into the fight.
But because of that, it allows Nisha to just keep coming in.
I think he must have gotten three or four electrical vortexes that fight alone
really impacting the outcome. It could have been so much worse for Liquid if not, but now you've got an Aegis back on Niku to ensure him against that buyback.
And Arcane Rune to work with as well. Nabi, they're going to try and push the issue. 16 seconds left on your SF and 25 on your Storm.
How much can they get here?
Refresher is coming for the Storm now. The double pull is going to be very crucial here.
he needs to keep the Queen of Pain under control. She has the Aegis now, but if they can somehow
wait out the Aegis and try to kill her before her buyback comes off to the top, that will
give Liquid an opening to win the game.
Big difference between the lineups of Liquid and Na'Vi right now is what Liquid lack
in raw burst potential they have in saves. They got themselves a couple of win-wakers,
They got themselves the Sentral Cart.
BKBs, Graves, Glimmers.
On the flip side, Na'Vi, if they get caught out with their BKBs down, their only way of
saving their allies is by killing you.
And we saw from that earlier fight it's not too easy.
Voxy will start to get poked down, Ice Blast will connect.
This Tiny is toast.
Bi-Bat is available for him though.
Liquid hung onto their Bi-Bats in that previous fight.
Unfortunate Courier Kill.
That's the Aeon Disc for the poor Dazzle.
going to have that one available anyway because of the buyback this late game
quad was definitely showing a lot of value and it's been finding a lot of very
very nice initiations on Zayac he's been getting a lot of critical kills from
his initiations and liquid have to be a lot more prepared for this you know they
have to account for this long-range initiation from Zayac they need to
respect it
all the tables have turned 25 minutes ago we were talking about it
We were talking about Nisha being the king of the world in this game.
They tried for the hook shot.
Put a temp there from Zaya. Not gonna clip him though.
Wave's clear. That's annoying part about storming late game.
Still got a navy rune forgot the juice.
Gotta be careful though. You don't have that second life.
And you don't have the save like we mentioned.
Hiroshiband are gonna come through keeping the creep safe.
Someone's got to go deal with it.
This one got looked at first.
Look for the first down they get themselves the Wind Ranger.
It looks so easy when you ain't got a Wind Waker.
You ain't got any way of bailing juice out.
There's no way he actually can hit the tower there.
Like he has no save.
And the moment he gets stunned, that's it, you know.
Like if the Mars doesn't react right away, he's cooked.
He's basically just cooked, you know.
And that was a very very strange sequence. If they wanted to hit a tower, PMA needed to be ready to react in the moment they jumped the wind ranger. They can't just do nothing there and just let him die. Then why tell the wind ranger to hit the tower?
But there wasn't really anything he could do right? Because before the Centaur and Mickey even jumped in, they both prepped BKB.
So they were already BKB'd in that situation. Nothing in the Mars entire kit can save the win at that point.
Because the arena doesn't stop the Requiem. The arena doesn't stop them from getting stunned.
Maybe you need to start investing in some of these win-wakes.
Yeah, but then it shows a full set of planning right? If you already know that you can't save him.
At least if you want to hit a tower, no matter what, you need to try and do something.
The moment they jump him, he has to just blink in and put an arena to try and block them off.
Like the fact that they just did nothing, this is a very big concern.
It shows me that they are not really sure how to proceed with the game at the moment.
In that inexperience that has plagued Na'Vi Junior back when they were that team,
even being upgraded now with the help of Coach CY...
This is dangerous, for Nabi.
The Aegis timer is going to run down and your Cork has no buyback for a couple more minutes.
60-minute items though, Stygian Desolator with Fleet Footer picked up by Mikkei.
We need to keep track of these. These could change the outcome of the game.
Very very important. What kind of items are you looking for of your Nabi though?
Definitely the Necrobots.
I'm not even gonna do anything can't they just be cleared instantly by the soul?
You're gonna try to rat, use it to rat, stay push, I mean the divine regalia on the
co-op is gonna be a big deal.
I mean Minotaur horn as well if you get that magic immunity just for a little bit.
I can help you against those very short DKD cooldowns that you're currently operating
with at the moment.
Down to 6 seconds on all the calls of Na'Vi.
Just same problem here for the grid as well, for Stiggies, one last team fight, you're gonna pick all the buildings in a minute.
Very very tense moments, going into 60 minutes right now, both teams just being really really cautious about where they are moving, just trying to find an angle.
And they can actually see the opponents under a vision and jump down, or maybe even get a rune.
During these late games, sometimes it's even good to place a ward around the runes to check what power rune is spawning.
It could actually, you know, come into play in a late game fight.
For sure. I mean, an AD rune or a shield rune for any one of these heroes actually might just save them.
A divine rapier for Niku now. Pure firepower on the Queen of Pain.
But he has to be soo bloody careful, man.
He could get caught out and killed and he doesn't have buyback for one more minute.
Both these teams.
Understanding that it's all about the initiation.
Anisha more than the rest of them.
18-3.
This scoreline of the Storm Spirit, you typically don't lose games when you're in this position.
The Navi finding a way to hold on and even punch back into Liquid.
Turtles being drawn Liquid on the prowl, looking to try and find a key target, could be Niko
on the high ground, spot them with the Sheebas, that Shackle and Icebox onto all of them!
Miki's in trouble!
He's great for now but he's not going to survive this one!
Release with a Q-Chill, just buy time at the Nisha!
He's on the cart?
Don't focus him down Miki!
He's on the cart but he'll come out and die!
The rest of Liquid spend their time dealing with Riddies, who just so easily buys back.
They're looking for Boxing Abadid Managers to hide away.
Only two members of Liquid surviving.
The way that fight started, far from ideal, they had the high ground vision with the
Shiva's from Niku, and he tears them off.
GMA's gonna look now.
Yozak!
Bop Bop Flares are there though, Bossy.
That's the tosses way out of this.
Any head start?
They should escape that earlier fight but will not escape now as the ice blast will shoot him down
and that is four members of Liquid dead. It's only Nisha alive and we talked about this winter.
The only like like how could you even lose from this position as the storm but it's so
difficult for everyone on Liquid to survive the burst, the control. Niko flying in with the
damage and the repressures it just all get blown to smithereens.
Once again, Navi just gets the jump right there.
He's just so crucial whoever gets the jump is just going to straight up win the team.
But Jartaza is not going to be able to save because of the ice rush.
Sure, you can delay with the card, but you're not going to be saving me here.
That's it. You have to find the jump first.
Here come the Bi-Bags. They're going to try and stop Nisha on his tracks.
A on this proc. That is so annoying for the support players.
So what can you do? You're up against late game storm.
Still, you know victory's right in front of you, Navi.
They have this opportunity. They need to be careful got the juice
He's died in this situation before but now he has himself a on this. What's going on liquid they pop the BKB on ace
Well, okay
Maybe it was just worried about being jumped. I'm not too sure
The bye right now on the tiny got the juice needs an out easy glimmer came out
Things are getting messy here for liquid. It feels like they're scrambling a little bit
They just used two barbats for nothing
And Navi just needs to chill
Defend the Russian area and wait for the Russian
And I'll liquid out the ones that are in a really really bad spot here
Like Tiny somehow buys that and then
They just couldn't really find an initiation, you know, for liquid for the past couple of fights
They need to stop trying to wait
I feel like Centaur is like waiting too much to save
But instead what she should be doing is just trying to use his body initiate and start the fight
The saves are not going to be changing the outcome of the fight, it's the jump you need to find the opening.
Oh no, what an unfortunate time.
I guess he already used his spells, so maybe it didn't really impact the outcome of the fight there with SF dying, but still it's really really unfortunate.
They need to watch themselves here, Nekus is super low on HP, PMA as well.
I think he has Biobag on the Corp already.
Sure, but that's Divine Rapier and Divine Regalia potentially dropped, right?
right that's yeah you're right I think that's that's the concern that we have
right now and if they've blown all their items and the thing is Mickey can come
back and join this fight in the outpost so I feel like at this moment if you're
Navi if you can just leave the fight or maybe even find a way to feed the
cheese over to the co-op so she can keep going there's a chance that they
can stamp out liquid he shall still brawling away on to God the juice
And on this proc, to get himself the cheese, still the avalanche out onto juice, somebody
needs to get juice on out of here, toss over and the win rangers dead, but Niku will be
able to finish off Nisha.
That's the Vibeck immediately from the storm, Navi, you need to get the hell out of here.
Block her up with a hookshot, out to safety, and they try to chase on with the ball lightning,
but no one to be found, Navi escaped.
And Niku is just popping off right there, you know, like no fear jumping in, uses
a refresher to finish off Nisha, when Nisha buys back, he blinks backwards
with the BKB and TP's out you know. The finesse on Nuku there just outplaying the whole liquid side.
Just keep saying the same things over and over again Winter. I feel like the second the
BKB's are down there's nothing much that Liquid can do. They just get so controlled up.
They just need to jump. They need to jump you know. They're just getting jumped by
the Mars or the Cog every single time you know. Centaur just needs to go or Tiny needs to go.
They should stop trying to just wait for a reaction and counter a initiate
because they think that they can save your day.
You have to accept the fact that at the moment your core is trapped,
there is no saving the guy.
Oh, shot in, boxy. If you counter-initiation though, putting PMA in a rough spot.
He has that BKB.
Don't know whether you can afford the TP out of this one though,
has to refresh, use the BKB, and try and TP, but get stuck in his traps.
Oh, here, BKB!
Use the BKB!
I think maybe that PMA is going to die.
Oh, no, that could be a big death there.
I mean, he has buyback so he can come back to the fight but that was huge, you know.
He's not using his second BKB to ensure that he gets the TP out.
Big greedy there. On the mass thought that the arena would keep him safe but they can see right through it.
Let's hop in there and get the kill.
I think that's one of the first few mistakes that we've seen from PMA especially in this late game.
He's been in point so far with his setups, with his hexes and the spear back.
So they've brought Navi to this point.
now getting dropped in into the Roche they go liquid a lifeline presented to
them in a game where it looked a little bit bleak a divine rapier now on to
Nisha he's tired of Niku being the new star of the show
you should still try to stand up and prove you the main character
We usually talk about this Storm Spirit and his scaling, but he really is getting overshadowed
by the Queen of Pain and the burst.
He already did such a good job, finding so much out of that early game, but he's not
on team anymore, you know.
He needs his teammates to pick up the slack, you know, as long as he's already done everything
he can.
Other than being secure heroes, they need to find the initiation with the Tiny and
you know. AA has to die. Like I've said this so many times like they're not really
killing the AA and the T5s. They're going on the wrong heroes. AA not dying is a problem
because there's always uses in the fights when AA is alive. I mean that's fine in Dandy
and all and I feel like on the surface it looks like Nisha should be able to take
him down but prior to him getting this book of the dead where he now has vision,
the AA has A on disc and glimmer. Like you can't burst this guy down. Maybe the
the tier 5 items will change the complexion of that dynamic.
Liquid has no buybacks on 3 heals, Navi they are not afraid, we know they have the buyback
advantage here, even though Storm has 8 hits. They are running in and trying to look for
a small fight here in the jungle. Mars is keeping you with the boost of travels. If
they can actually spear back the Seraphine that would be huge.
Vision granted by the rockets, the liquid they smell something's amiss, they have
yet to see a navi hero in just about 20 to 30 seconds.
They're too suspicious.
Navi will relent.
These late game teamfights are actually so difficult for liquid.
The quad work aggonyms giving visions actually actually reach here.
Like I say, they are oftentimes being able to spot the location of the liquid heroes first
and making the right jump, by the way.
Compare that to liquid who's supposed to actually give them the jump. I feel like winter you just need to go
There's no no, I get it
You just say they just need to go but go where who are they seeing because the thing is they're showing one hero in the lane
Or they're trying to move and then Navi's getting all the vision in the world with the sheba's with the clock
What with the AA you make it sound so I can't imagine how like how liquid are supposed to just go
Who do they go on the AA is never showing?
Yeah, but you don't have a choice if you don't go and
And Nami gets the jump on you, you're screwed because you can't save because of the ice blast.
So maybe now they just need to all group up. Here's the girl that you are asking for, straight onto PMA.
Just gonna pop his BKB back up. The Pope was successful, that's a good start.
Now they have to be able to take advantage of it.
Oh boy, another DC.
That's not good.
Boxy having some issues here.
Are they going to commit on this clock?
boxy crashes on dazzle out. Yeah, there's a lot of actually a lot of random crashes happening
after the last couple of patches. I have that problem too. When I'm watching replays, you just
crash randomly when some spell is casted in the game.
Yeah, bro.
17 minutes into the game. I'm glad that there's still some human left.
Bro, the one thing about Niku, if you met this guy, he is...
You can never get this guy down.
He's always in a good mood, even in games where he's getting slapped around in.
I think that's one of the best parts that he brings to Na'Vi.
Keeping the vibes up very important in these very tense moments.
Just don't press it, Omega Lol.
Tofu, why would you make your teammate crash?
Yeah, just don't feed, you know?
Yeah, you lose this game because you're feeding, you know?
He doesn't need to press grave if he just don't die brother like what do we does this amateur hour? Come on
All right, so Zayac is up here using his gem to de-watch surely he dives right surely yes, okay
Just kidding hookshot that pause definitely safe. He's out
You know what you're talking about?
Second Rapier, that's what we call the backup rapier.
Yeah, yeah.
You don't tell your first rapier about the backup rapier though.
That's, that's the, yeah, no, you don't want to, are you trying to make a reference?
No, you don't want to be caught in that position.
You know, one man with two rapiers, that's biblical levels of greed.
Yeah, you just, you don't do that.
Look at what happens to Paul, you know, when he has two weapons.
The other hammer got jealous.
Did it actually waste much?
Yeah, I don't know.
Did you not see?
The hammer got jealous?
Yeah.
Nian Nian got jealous when...
Oh man, I wish you would swing me a little bit.
What the hell?
Yeah, he got jealous when...
That sounds ridiculous.
When Stormbreaker was the weapon of choice for Thor.
Is this like from the Marvel universe or is this like North mythology?
Maybe it's North mythology, I don't know, but I saw it on the Marvel movies.
Okay. The weapons are like your secondary self. They have emotions. That's true. I mean acts literally named himself after his weapon.
So it backs the question why does monkey king ever have to buy monkey king bar? Okay, I'm not let look.
I hate that. Don't piss me off.
It's a legit question. Why? Why can I ask you this? Just why you?
Well, you know what we should ask.
What?
At this point, what do you even do?
Like, what's the- because both these teams, they are so damn scared.
Is it just a wait for Roche angle?
Are you actually trying to make some sort of a play on the map?
You definitely have to wait for the Roche, you know.
I mean, if you're Navi, you have to wait out the Aegis and find an angle of attack.
They no longer have the Vibeck at one stage, it's all going to disappear.
So it's kind of the vehicle right now, anybody can lose in one wrong move.
But then again, you should never try to just play to not lose in this sort of situations.
I think oftentimes the team that plays not to lose will lose the fight.
And again.
Well, you've made it no secret that you want Liquid to just go,
However, they're doing the opposite. They're towering in their base
Rightfully so, you know, they know that if they fight in a location where they don't have an observer
They don't get the right jump. It's going to be Joe
But then again if they're just sitting in the base
How are they going to progress on the map? You know, how are they gonna ever leave?
If they don't try and do anything
They have to find a way to go out, maybe they are waiting for a smoke
They have one on Boxy and another one on Dagger, so they never have options
when they want to go out on the map, they can always use the smoke
They are going to pop it now, it's Na'Vi going to be ready for this
They are very very split right now, Riddies, he needs to pitch
Oh, that's cool.
I think Scream cone in the air, everybody.
That's a good start, right?
Liquid making the goal as you asked for.
Nice arena, Aeon just got a prop, no?
Niku is in big trouble, held in place, but still has the DKB blink out.
Little bit spooky now, you got the buyback available, but...
Navi and the gang just trying to retreat.
Looks like they found Xi on the sidelines.
The clockwork has been caught, and the clockwork will be killed.
Both supports from Navi being taken down.
Look at the multiple boots.
Going to work.
I mean, Navi just kinda afford to be speeded up.
Why on earth was really just all alone in the jungle?
His team was in the mid lane and he was just trying to,
I guess he was trying to play support or something?
That was really, really costly.
You're basically holding hands with your team right now.
Nobody is allowed to wander off alone.
I kind of like that Minotaur horned press from Voxy. He's playing it so safe.
He's like checking for vision but he's scared he gets instantly jumped on in Bursa.
Why not right? It's free. There comes Liquid onto the high ground now trying to force out
some sort of a buyback or response from Nabi. Maybe it's just go down one lane of Rax.
It's crazy to think that 75 minutes in Liquid have not been able to penetrate the high ground.
They're first now taking their racks of the game.
A lot of damage.
Now he has to try.
Are they going to try to initiate with Targets?
That was not a good try.
They completely missed that timing.
And comes Nisha.
Hold on to two.
Where's the follow up?
KMA is going to be the one to go in.
Round two.
Bi-Bat comes out.
They're still waiting out for ready.
It's with the Ice Blast.
Get the Shackle on.
Nisha in some trouble.
Still able to pop that PKB on Niku on the back line.
Looks like they're plopped down to a full and that will at least be a kill on the
support.
Niku.
Hit them on Niku or die.
There's a Bi-Bat with the Divine Rape here on the deck.
Somebody go grab it.
They don't dare to risk it.
Don't the juice will recover the rapier.
Try for TP out onto ace.
Any way of stopping it doesn't seem like it.
The lose may gay, but Nisha gets out.
That was a huge deal.
He waived the second sonic wave.
Don't think he would have mattered.
He was still alive, but maybe he
would have brought one extra hero down together.
We might get to a stage where we're going to see the rapiers on the Mars and then they see something insane, because this has the replay of the fight.
The first Sonic wave he brings in, he deals a ton of damage on the King of Pain and then he refreshes, he brings in and then totally whips the second Sonic wave.
It's just unfortunate because I think that Ace actually puts that Shadow Fiend into his cart outside of Navi's vision.
So really nice save there from the duo of Tofu and Ace. This is what you wanted to back that SFR.
Still doesn't get him out of trouble, but it cost Niku his life. At least he still hangs on to the Divine Rapier
So he doesn't have to use that backup divine. I think God the juice picked it up for him left it in base
Unfortunately, that means the divine regalia is no longer factor. So he's crafted the book of the dead instead
Yeah, it's actually kind of annoying the thing is you just send the book of the dead to the support
They burned their banner
I saw how Zaya got bullied by the book of the dead, you know
I mean, what do you even do as a clock? You're talking about it in the draft, which is almost 80 minutes ago at this point.
But, yeah, these two supports are really being caught by Zul.
Zayak, Aeon just gonna proc, Tostar, McKayzee with the damage, and Zayak, he'll die.
That's a dieback onto the clockwork.
Na'Vi looking to be in trouble now. The BKB's pots understand that, bro?
Niku is not buying back. He wants to hang on. It's nine more seconds.
They're gonna lose one at one more lane of Raxia.
Well maybe that's fine, maybe that's worth the buyback but they don't want to test backdoor regen.
Hundred seconds without Zayac and the vision advantage that he gives you.
It took Liquid a while but it seems like at least for now they are somewhat back on track.
These initiations that they've been finding Liquid, they've been able to pressure Navi with these tier 5 items.
With the late game and like you mentioned Roshizak.
Could be a second life on Nisha, could be a second life on Mikkei, they both have buybacks, depends on who you want it on.
I think Mavi has the kind of fire.
I think they can actually maybe snipe a hero with the Ice Blast and Soik Wave.
So okay, they're just going to kind of like push up route waves, setting the bulk.
At this point I don't even know if they're going to send them off first.
He doesn't even have to do it.
You know, watch out for these book of the dead rat plays, for sure.
But Nisha, 39 galvanized stacks, he was the god of this game, then he got shown
up by Niku a little bit.
But in the chaos of these fights, proven to be so hard to take him down.
Here comes the Thunder, Nisha. He'll be the one on the front lines, Mickey not wanting
to risk himself. Seems to be the right decision, Book of the Dead pushing in the final lane
of Rags for Na'Vi. Better watch yourself, Miku. Let's save
buyback for this very reason
without the help don't matter was bad now you got Pokemon battles with some of
these book of the dead units my goodness
who you gotta be so careful from those are from the death damage from those
units as well. Actually down a little bit. Oh it's Navi in the base. What are the options
you have for Navi? Do you even step out or do you just kind of wait until Liquid make
a mistake?
We have to wait all the aggies at least 3 minutes. That's probably the wise move here.
Wait for your quad work to buy back. He's the only one that does not have buy back
right now. He's going to turn into some 10 heroes, so he's 10 heroes team fight
and then it will end the game but no one is walking out right now maybe they can try to
like smoke and follow creeps in and maybe try to surprise attack that's probably an option
they all have buybacks you know they have 5 buybacks on the quick ready so i expect them to
try to do something soon. Is it time to make the block of peace right now? I mean, I don't
even know if that makes a difference. Dude, the reason why I'm so quiet is I'm looking at
this game and I'm trying to figure out how exactly liquid need to break this because
even after, now they have all their buybacks, they have the ages, but if you run up to
the high ground you run the risk of Navi just kind of gifting them this
refight where PMA can set up all he wants right it's so much more linear
boss he's gonna jump in but that Roshanna immediately dealt with here
comes me shall try to poke out a response A on this crop that's nice
lastly in the right here Navi hanging on for dear life
second Roshan banner coming through you don't ever aim this to save you
anymore someone's got to auto attack it or do you just make a decision to
lose it here. The Amaze is going to step on forward. It's the front of the initiation.
They blow up Nisha in an instant. I don't even know where that storm went. That's the setup.
That's the spear. Nisha in trouble, but the clock ace gets him out. The arena can't stop
that. Niko's going to blink in with the BKB and the starting wave. Refresh up. But look
at Nisha on the back line. Vogue bridge, punk keating. Full glory. The wind ranger
is going to go down, and the rep will finish up Riddies. Bye back. I'm in through.
who's still trying to hunt down Tofu, who's kiting around with his vision.
Niku and Trouble, Niku blinking away.
Miki, still the wall that they can't get through at the moment.
They found Ace, but he's able to win Waker out for the safety of his team.
Getting the cart now, they're still jumping forward, Galeforce keeping them in place.
The second Requiem coming through, Miki and Ace are going to drop, and now they
turn their sight towards Bossy.
Bi-Bags coming out from Liquid though, as Niku desperately trying to escape will
be able to hide and flee.
The Zayac won't be quite as lucky Liquid looking to overwhelm Navi with the numbers and both
supports have no buyback.
Coming through with the second salvo, Sonic Wave, it's huge!
Niku, any salvage to fight doesn't seem like it!
Nisha's gonna gun him down, he's bought back though.
Nisha, on a sliver, they get themselves the storm.
Somehow, some way, Navi, despite losing Mega Creeps, they still hold.
still a tree versus tree and now it's a decision for Nisha to make the seed actually commit a buyback to try and end the game here
it's the only one in the game with a buyback
I just want to save that for a rainy day, yeah
what even happened in that fight?
like what the hell is even happening in these fights?
overthrow 3.0
that was basically it
Oh, they got the juice and Niku both do over 20k damage and it still doesn't feel like
Nadi won that fight convincingly, they're the buyback on 4 heroes, they died on all
5.
Just buyback from Nisha, looking for the fight, Niku on the frontline, Niku's point, Niku's
kill!
That might just be it!
We weren't paying attention and in an instant these heroes disappear.
There's a bit of a longer show than we expected, Nisha, that it's time to shine.
The spotlight was all on him, but he got taken away for a moment, but he still keeps himself
in the driver's seat.
It's a wrap.
And the Nisha show is complete.
What a game from this player, from start to finish, and you can see the relief on
their faces.
They can't be too happy about that, still smiles all around.
Probably a bit of frustration.
wasn't supposed to be this hard. Navi putting out such a great fight.
The win is a win, my friend. Got a win, ugly sometimes. All that matters at the end of the day is you get the W.
That's the worst part, but they got there in the end, you know. Pure will, you know, in the team fights they gave me.
Navi just, I think, looking a little bit more shaky in certain crucial situations. They're not clutched.
and Liquid just made the right calls, made the right jumps in the right moments,
and they were able to secure the game towards the end, you know, it was just very very
late game, Dota, anything could have happened, a lot of chaos, it's very difficult to pinpoint
a fight that lost Navi the game, but it was just like accumulation of a lot of things that
happened that went wrong for Navi, they were a bit nervous in different fights,
made bad decisions, gone on wrong heroes, and just ultimately lost the game, you know,
just showing the class that they have being such an experienced team.
We had a lot of criticism for Ace here. He wasn't really having the best start on his centaur,
but I think especially in these late game situations, really salvaging some of the fights for his team, right?
We might not be able to point to a moment that won Liquid the game particularly,
but overall it feels like the saves the grave couple with all these card instances and the BKB jump in.
It was just so difficult for Na'Vi to stick on these targets even with their overwhelming damage and with that
Unfortunately, Na'Vi will take a loss here while Liquid go up 3-2, but that was just that was just our second game of the day
Winter we have a third up for you. This one should be just as exciting
Recording and Miles coming up after a short break
You
I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to my room and see what I can do.
I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to my room and see what I can do.
If you're not on the B stream of Blast Slam 6, I need to break it to you, but you're missing
out, Permasnese and Wintergear taking you through the action and we just had an 18 minute banger,
Liquid vs Na'Vi.
I think going into it, we already knew that these teams would give us a real treat and
And Nisha absolutely delivered on his Storm Spirit, closed things out, even though it took
a bit longer than expected.
And now we have even more Dota 2 for you, next best of one on the way, it's Reconyx vs Mouths,
the boys representing Southeast Asia, the boys representing Indonesia, some names that
most of the tier 1 Dota 2 audience might not be familiar with, but we are already
at the chance to see them yesterday up against Tundra and honestly they look pretty solid,
right?
They have some solid ideas, I think Winter you were saying that you like that they
they stick to their playstyle so far.
Despite losing all the games yesterday,
but a lot of the games that they had,
they were winnable games,
so that is a very encouraging sign for them.
They are probably the most inexperienced team in the event by far.
So they need to play a lot more games to learn,
to improve and to understand what they have to do.
Draft-wise, I think they've got it down.
They have really solid drafts.
It's just the execution in terms of being clutched in specific times in the game,
they're not there yet compared to the other teams.
Is there any particular component of the team that you would say maybe needs to step up a bit?
Because for me, I feel like all these Reconyx games that I'm watching,
some of them feel like Jig Roy is popping the hell off,
but the rest of the team just can't really keep up with that tempo.
Yeah, I think mostly they are winning the game when Jig Roy is doing well,
when Inyo Dream is doing well, when T'alu is doing well,
like the three of them but sometimes it feels like FBZ overraised but I guess
overraised it's your pause five sometimes it's difficult to do a lot yeah
but especially for FBZ I think he's the one that he's struggling in a lot of the
games that they're losing he's not exactly doing a lot he's not pulling his
weight and at the same time he takes a lot of space on the map I think he
has to kind of find out find out how can he give back to his team right
I've always said this it's okay to farm but the more you take from a
I think from your team, the more you have to find a way to give back, you can't just keep taking and not giving back, you know, and your team will have a hard time winning, so he needs to figure that out, and they will be able to beat the better teams.
For sure, and I think Offlin definitely one of the hard roles to make it, you know, there's a lot to think about right, you have to be so flexible, you have to sort of eat shit sometimes, times you need to carry the game.
But on the flip side for miles their opponents this time round boom and Yammich have a very nice working partnership
Maybe not so nice for boom, but you know, he knew what he was signing up for they have that
Contract exactly alone on the off-limit. Yeah, you ain't seeing me after two minutes, brother
I got people to hook I got runes to secure mid one needs everything
And that's kind of how miles have succeeded so far in the games that they've won
It's always felt like they enabled mid one but compared to a few months ago where miles were the hot new kids on the block
It feels like now. They're struggling a little bit to really have that same dominance
And a lot of the heroes that they were really good at got nerfed and right now they have to figure out like
Another replacement here or they have to like in the games that we constantly say they stuck to their guns
But it's just they couldn't win the games, you know ultimately
So we'll see what adjustments that are going to bring bring us today and hopefully we're gonna see something interesting from mouse
You think it's one of those situations where
Okay, the heroes that you were good at are nerfed and then now you need to expand your hero pool
Is that kind of the main problem that you see from mouse?
Yeah, something like that. I think it's part of it a huge part of it is the hero pool problem and
You kind of have to just expect
when there's a drop, sorry not a drop but when there's a catch of this magnitude, a lot of things are changing, you're going to be adaptable, you're going to be flexible, you're going to find a way.
The impression that I get from mid one is that he'll pick just about anything in the mid lane, he's brought out Rubik mid, I think in the past month or so.
Rubik mid, huh, probably not going to see it today.
Yeah, hopefully not. I feel like if we see a Rubik made it's either gonna be a 20-minute game where like they completely
Devastates their borders. It was against the underlaw right? He only did that because it was an underlaw in the game
Correct and he got absolutely shit stormed. They did not do very well
Oh, okay, 3M protector. This is a good sign
for mouse
Yeah, this hero is I've already said this to you in the best position for a few in the patch
For those who didn't have the privilege of listening to your explanation, would you mind telling us why again for the class?
He is very, very solid in the lane. Lane secure and his armor got buffed a lot.
And the ability to have the indis from the get go ensures that you can always be able to come ahead of the runescuffers before the game starts.
You can scout, you can bait, you can always set up the indis.
and in the late game, mid late game you have the shot in your vision, control the map farm,
and you have a BKB piercing disable, you know, so it's a very valuable hero overall throughout
the game. And Reconyx, they're gonna respawn with Batrider, so what's good against Trees? Fire,
you burn the Trees down. Is that really a good enough counter though, you think? Is it a good
I mean, it's it's definitely a good hero. It's shrimp collector. I
Don't know if it's good enough, but it's a counter
Depends on a lot of setup and as a trim factor
I don't really care to be honest if people counter me say people pick a timber
Whatever primal beast you know to counter me. It's whatever, you know, I'm still gonna be useful
Maybe I'll struggle in the early game because I cannot kill the specific hero and he can kill me easily
But I think when you get to the main game, you still function like a very, very good support hero.
You give vision with the shot, then you have the armor to save your teammates.
You have the route to set up, you know.
You're the same hero. You just basically start the game harder.
And what would you say is the counter to Trion?
Then because he's the best Pulse 5, what do you need to do to make sure he doesn't have that impact?
In the teamfights?
I think just in general, right? Because he sounds so great right now.
I think in general it's just hard to counter this hero. I don't think that she's just good, you know, like if you know how to play, if your team knows how to abuse the vision, it's very hard to deal with it. That's why you don't really see a lot of teams letting it through, you know, if the opponent can play it.
I think the way you counter it in the teamfights, maybe there's some theory about picking Warlord Phoenix, Undying, so you put down like a spell that can allow you to take control of a certain area so the trend can't approach the teamfight.
But either way I still think that the vision that it provides the information in the game is so valuable and the living armor
It's so strong in the early game
What kind of heroes do you need you are you then going to try and play the map because the bad rider
It's a pretty strong position for right? I feel like this hero has been contested quite a bit
I mean, I think it's probably gonna be a call
Feel like it pulls gonna play zero at PC and think very likely gonna handle this hero
I think the hero is better as a core right now
With the recent changes that the support bet I've tried it feels really bad though
So I I don't know I personally kind of feel like better. That's just a straight up core here at the moment
You can't really run it as a sub
It's nice to see that Recony still have smiles on their faces though
And of course they would write because they picked that for each signature disruptor. Yeah, it's just he's best hero
If you exclude the weird picks like gyrocopter support, which is his best normal hero.
The classic Indonesian team picks gyrocopter and it comes out on pause 4 and 5 that always
happens.
But that opens the way for mouse to secure themselves a very strong brewmaster that you
said was one of the strongest off laners right now because of their aggadims buff.
Yeah, I mentioned Brew and Largo I think as the best offlaners right now in Malpaine.
So right now, and Brewmaster, I also mentioned that his primary weakness is Viva.
And they actually did not ban the Viva, they've chosen to ban out Gyar, Gyar was also good against Brewmaster.
So we'll see if Reconyx decides to pick the Viva out as a counter against the Brewmaster here.
They also follow up with a Ringmaster which is really nice against the bad initiations.
you have a safe and you have very very big team fight with the overgrowth plus the
bit of wonder just controlling specific areas in the team fight making it difficult
for Reconyx to run in there. So Reconyx they have to kind of find a way
to bypass all this annoying AoE control. So they go with the ember so you
can poke from afar. So basically they have a lot of poke now. Slight chains
and disruptor glimpse. They are not going to be playing the full
you can see them poking from far range and see how things go
and maybe force you to pop primal split, you know, preemptively
Isn't this an insane weaver game?
Like, don't you just like, 17 weaver here?
And then...
I think they should
You play this insane like, run at you
because right now, like what you're saying,
Maus have a lot of shit that they can set up, right?
They throw the primal split ruling scene,
they got overgrowth on the front lines and whatever
but then you just poke here, poke there, tickle them
and then force a split, force an overgrowth
and then you go, haha, bye bye
Actually they have a last pick, Jig Royce Hero, and he needs to be a mentor hero because he's a Trim Protector.
So, yeah, they're actually not going to pick his hero, they're going to show that the Bat is going to be a support.
They're picking Timber into the Trim Protector.
Very, very annoying lane to play for the Trim. I still think it's okay.
You just need to be a little bit more defensive and focus on last hit and denying.
Trim has so high base damage, so in this matchup, you just focus on last hit, you know.
You already try to be aggressive against Timber.
Is the idea of the timber just to win the lane here because you were talking about how bad rider does well in the trient as well
What does this Timbersaw pick tell you?
It's just to win the translate and it's also pretty good into
Blue mouse I can burst him before he gets a split off
So I think he also doesn't really care I guess I say from ring because you're pure damage and your
AoE spells, you know, so you don't care about the box
and now mouse they have to decide how to address this timber they need like some
sort of magic damage hero some carry like Luna SF SF is available Luna is
available those are great heroes against timber saw and that's what Luna and Triad is so such a
one more as one more Muetta some teams as you have utilized Muetta as a counter to timber
especially when you have terrain protector so there's a lot of good options for crystallize
So they go for the SF. So that's something that they really like going back to. So there are no surprises there.
And now they have to figure out what Jigra is going to play. Are they going to ban his signature cast?
Everyone in C knows he's the best cast player. I guess Mouse will know too because they have mid one.
Mid one hasn't played in Southeast Asia in a long time.
I think he definitely knows. He came back for a bit for a couple of months. He was streaming. He was playing a lot of C games.
So I'm pretty sure he knows.
It might be overestimating how much mid one pays attention to the rest of the Southeast Asia scene.
Bro, I can tell he knows. Based on his streams, if you watch his streams, he's friends with a lot of the players.
He plays so many games every day.
I mean, for not to know, Jigroy is the best cast player in the year.
I wonder how much research these other teams are doing into Reconyx
Because you come into this tournament, you know, if you spend your resources or whatever time you have looking into Reconyx
I feel like most people are expecting them to not do so hot and sure the results show that at the moment, but then
Do you really worry so much right like you I'm sure a lot of these teams think oh, yeah
You know Reconyx they the Southeast Asian team they can play fast. We just need to play our stock standard
the more superior Western Euro data.
And the flag that they almost beat Tanja yesterday,
and they almost won the couple of other games
so it should be a warning, Sanja,
I should not take this team lightly.
Sure, but at the same time,
we also discussed this factor
of the best of ones moving so fast
that you might not be able to watch many of the games
that the other teams play.
That's just not enough time in the day, right?
So you can look at the result
and then you look at the 70 minutes
and maybe you just assume to yourself,
oh, maybe Tanja slipped up.
Maybe the first game of the tournament may be a bit warm up game. Maybe you don't show that respect
Yeah, maybe. No cast ban
No cast ban. So I think the picks that are good for a jiggler is going to be cast or morphic
You know those are two key heroes and now
How are they going to round up their lineup on a mouse and what is mid one going to play? It doesn't have his Lash
He doesn't have his Puck
It's against the Amber. Does he go for something like a Slut? Slut is still in the pool right?
They have starter against Ember matchup and they have starter plus Shadowfiend seems like a very very deadly combo
Yeah
Hero that has sort of fallen off a little bit just because of the Greaves meta right now
But still looking very juicy this game and the best way of dealing with
Disruptor is just to run at him right if you have someone leading the charge then he's means me
I think there's also Storm if you want Storm.
I guess it's also fine you can build Grease into the Ember.
What else is he going to consider?
Any chance that we just do Shadowfiend mid though?
Shadowfiend mid definitely also possible.
I prefer it on a safe lane now because you have Trimple like that, I think you should just be a carry and pick a new mid. They need a Vessel Hero.
Okay, that's not a Vessel Hero, that's just a greedy ass Hero.
I mean, Brew can be the Vessel Hero, right?
Oh yeah, oh yeah, true. Brew is already the Vessel Hero. He could be the Vessel Hero.
So they just want to play like a very, like, macro intensive game because they have the Trimple to take control of the map.
So they want to farm everything on the map, basically with the beast and the SF, and just skill insanely well with the aggames.
That's the Kass king. Come on. I think he's not that Kass or more thing. These are the two years that I really go for him.
Maybe there's something else I'm not seeing.
Some TA, Naga, but this doesn't really feel so great here.
The Connix didn't get the chance to show that Jigroy Kass yet. It's day two.
When he's smiling, he's definitely clicking the Kass soon, you know.
It's on this 360p camera, you can tell he's smiling.
I can barely see him. I can't even make out if even if I understood Bahasa, I wouldn't be able to lip read.
Poor guy. He's happy. Yeah, he's having a good time. I mean, he's playing Dota 2. His team is at the initial stages at least of an international tournament.
This is a big opportunity for a lot of the boys here. They've come a long way, right, since their inception.
And prior to this, prior to being signed by the organization, Reconyx, they were known as Tech Free Gaming and then they were on some different Indonesian stacks altogether to really coming together and leveling up in a big way.
I mean, you can see the coach on the screen, Sundebul, just asking, what's it going to be? Of course it's going to be the Kez, Southeast Asia's finest.
He's gonna unsheath his sword here and see whether he can slay the mouse line up that just wants to play the map.
This is gonna be a matchup where Reconyx need to hunt them out and stamp them down.
I like their chances. This is like their dream line up, you know.
They have Buries on Disruptor, they have the Caste, they have F-Bizzy Timber.
They're gonna be running at you chasing you, getting Flames back, Slidechains to set up.
Mouse has a very very slow greedy lineup, Beast, SF, Brewmaster, they think that with the Triumph actor, it will allow them to control and farm the map, but at the same time I feel like because it's so slow, I can see a world where Reconyx just runs them down, as long as they don't lose the lane badly.
There's some sort of way to play the early game.
And then when it comes to the mid-game, 15 minutes on, you know, that lineup is so scary.
The moment you have a cast with the first couple of items, you get Roshan.
And then you run at them with your pipe on the timber saw, slide chains, dishupted beams.
You're not run- If you're running away from dishupted at bed with Dagger, good luck, you know.
You're not gonna have a fun time.
I just think it's so lovely that Reconyx patiently waited until we casted them again to pick this cast.
I, I bring a tear to my eye and you talked about Reconyx getting all the components that they want.
On the flip side, I wonder whether this is Maus at their finest because it's clear coming into this tournament
and even the previous tournaments recently that they went to, this Shadow Fiend is a big priority.
Maybe playing around it in the pause one is something they've practiced a lot in scrims.
but I just don't know, it's had mixed results.
Because of this, you're putting Yamage on a ranged position 4,
which isn't really his comfort zone.
Mid-1 is on a Beastmaster that feels a bit greedy,
so maybe you're not looking to make as much space,
you're being a bit more farmy.
But Mid-1 has said this before.
In a recent interview he did,
he said, I'm not really the type of player that can farm,
I just want to make shit happen,
I want to go up and pressure the enemy.
And this doesn't really feel very mid one but I would love to be surprised here.
What's your take? Do you think Reconyx got this one or do you think Maus have a 50-50 chance?
I would prefer to be on the Reconyx side here though. I feel like even though it's intimidating
to see the SF Trim collector brew, like if you look at just Draft and if you want to
calculate the broken heroes, I think Maus probably has more broken heroes, brew,
But at the same time when you're looking at the pacing, I do favour Reconyx's line-up
because they could get the game off to a good start, be very quick with the disruptor, with
the cast, with the ember running at you.
But at the same time, they need to be able to play the lane, I could see them potentially
maybe losing the lane's back because I feel like based on the hero setup, I think
Maus has very very strong side lane setups, you know SF Trim collector is a timber
plus bat.
I think that's kind of very solid for them.
And the blue and the ring is definitely,
I feel like stronger than the Decepticons and the Kessiel.
And then mid lane Beastmaster should be able
to come out on top against Amber.
So I think by default, just by lane setup,
I would favor mouse.
Yeah, just looking at the heroes by themselves,
it's fair to say that lanes and the matchups
are going to be in mouse's favor,
but you look at those damn Dota plus levels,
Everyone other than the low at minimum master level on their hero
How many times have we seen Reconyx in the Southeast Asia close qualifiers in some of these regional battles?
Take things to their opponents off of in your dreams in St.
Ember
Definitely has the chance to snowball with a nice rotation from the low
How will they upset that lane balance though, you know, you talk about
Well, Maus probably just having the better matchups.
Do you need to see Pipe's Twin Gate rotations?
Are we looking for early movements to mid?
Are you looking to play through Ember's Spirit?
Are you trying to move to the side lanes?
What's the plan here for Reconyx?
Survive the lane.
Okay, so you just, you don't need to do anything
as long as you survive, you're fine.
Is that what I'm hearing?
Yes, sir, because they have the faster lineup.
They have quicker heroes.
So as long as they don't get slaughtered in the laning phase, I think they're going to be fine.
And they can play around the timber with the slight chains of the amber spirit.
Chain, people goes in, eliminates a hero, glimpse gets another hero.
I could see that happening, but they need to be able to play the lanes first.
Let's see what happens here. Maybe as part of the contractual agreement,
Yamage just leaves boom at level 2 and then suddenly the brewmaster gets beat up.
You try and gank me in your dream just dances away and it ends up having no effect
late smokes on both sides both teams wrapping around mirror locations around the river
Caz might be caught here but they don't have a convincing way of slowing him down
Going in this celery gonna get the vision thoughts out the cares but yes maybe getting a bit of cold feet
And see this is a battle between the two teams currently placed at the bottom of the standings
but we've seen them play and we know what they're capable of and that's how you know
Blast Lamp 6 is a badass tournament.
There's even the teams at the bottom are just kind of punching real hard and not going
down without a fight.
can win anytime right now that's what it feels like and that's really what it
feels like I feel I think the only decision that I have set in stone in my
mind is OG I probably gonna sweep everyone they just look way too good
rather than that anyone's tournament that second semi-final spot
he's so nice for OG too I mean out from the previous slam where they made it to
Chengdu, but couldn't really perform for early folding of the damage. I'm just trying to put the damage in.
You can see, I mean, the harass from boom and damage, it's gonna start to ramp up higher levels in the Cinder Brew and maybe even the magic burst has to be respected.
That's unfortunate, just get that HP off of that range before it gets up to 9.
Let's have this calculation there.
Spamming the glimpses onto Yamich here, it really played a lot of pressure onto this ring.
I feel like most of the times you would think of Ringmaster as the type of support that can actually stand his ground
and even get favorable trades against most other heroes, but...
I'm kind of suffering a little bit.
I've seen in the top lane, this is a lane that you were kind of concerned about winter.
They did pick this Timbersaw for the sole purpose of winning the Trion Projector lane,
but at this point, I mean, still CS'ing so not too sad about it.
Yeah, this is fine.
They got the wave back through the tower, and the Trion has to play very, very defensive
in this matchup because you can die easily to the Timber, so you can't be aggressive
as usual.
Bit rough, you step out a bit too far, then 1, 2, 3 razors you're out.
All they need to do is just get the wave in the middle of the lane so that the disruptor
can gank, say 3 minutes for, after the Lotus, the disruptor can rotate over to gank the
SF, you know.
As long as they don't get run over in the lane.
One weakness of the SF that you always like to remind me of Winter, extremely susceptible
to being rotated on.
To keep our eyes out whether Reconyx are able to make that happen.
are pretty even mid lane and your dreams always going to have a bit more of a difficult time
because the balls can just harass him but he's putting on a lot of pressure to mid one as well.
Bought lane as a preferred going really well for boom. Brew and ring master stronger than
Dishuckling and Cass. They're doing a pretty good job early on putting out a lot of damage
onto Yammich but nothing a self can't fix. Lotusers, one a piece, the lul's gonna secure
it but Yammich, steps in the pool and nothing much left for Rix and Jirkoi can do for now.
Yeah, I think I'm not really feeling too good of a lane at the moment. Jirkoi is getting
harassed a lot by the ringmaster. Gonna get another killings. Maybe the living armor
Let's go and go through the ring here
Something we didn't mention as well like these lanes already favorable for mouse
They will now also have the aspect of the living armor helping them keep sustained up
You know watch yourself when you're going for these commitments
Pp in from the low but decide to cancel it because there's nothing left to be found
They want to steps away back up to the wave
Runes are gonna be very cool to have both me laners out of resource
Meanwhile, bot lane, first gate gank for Celery, makes the rotation over and punishes
jikroy on his signature cares.
Meanwhile, the low and the mid lane trying to find the Beastmaster, it will get him
chained up and will chop him down.
The trading out your cares for superiority for the ember, I kind of feel like the
I think so okay with that. Yeah, I kind of like that more for you to be responses probably the bigger kill
And that's gonna bound to be
It's one of the millioners died in the boat and we're so low
And also the ones to decide to get the sirens if they're gonna make so they pay the price of losing a piece there
Master is so obnoxious the brood up in the center blue just
Causing this huge zone of the lane that
Can't really be fought in the glimpse in the bot lane to pull back Yammich again
But like you said living armor means that there's nothing that can be done
You can see how difficult it is for jikroy to really get involved even in last hitting
Yammich is one level higher than him at the moment sitting at the bottom of the CS
What's your read on Kaz is it fine that he loses to lane here like what kind of carry is he?
Because we've seen some Kessels go for battle fury.
Actually, most Kessels these days go for battle fury.
That's what he asked you to do.
Got to hold that thought because another die coming through.
The lore's a TP.
They'll glimpse Yammich back in, but the living armor again.
What can you do?
Still going to try and chase.
The slashes come through.
Yammich in a bit of trouble.
They'll try and return as much damage onto the lore
as possible.
And the Cinderbrew will find him.
They're looking towards Celery now.
Paper, a sword should do pretty well into a tree,
but with Doom in their way, the Panda will say no.
Hey, you definitely want to get off to a good start.
You were asking about whether he cares if he gets a good start on Jigway,
on a hero like Kass.
I think this is a very snowball-ish hero.
Like, you want to get off to a good start, you want to be rotating early.
You don't just want to sit back and farm, you know?
K-1 hitting that level 6 fast despite the solo kill earlier on.
Somehow he gets the levels.
okay must have been the 12 denies there you know he has 12 denies ember has 7
even though he killed the Beastmaster
this is a big problem Mike
catapult is still alive
pressure being mounted, Reconyx need to bring heroes to respond
they know there's no gong they gotta try and catch onto mid one but salaries around the corner
Thumb back first, wears the backup. The destructor is looking to pull mid one back into the clutches of the tower.
The catapult is still alive, does a decent amount of damage but Reconyx will punish mid one for overstaying his welcome.
The tower goes down to half HP though.
Yeah, just overplaying his hand a little bit there, trying to push the advantage of the catapult there.
He's paying the price.
where some shrines popping up. Brew is going to collect this one and the load is going to collect the iconic side.
So it means Brew is going to get an earlier level 6 so he can kick out the cast of the lane.
I guess it's still PopNet World though.
Despite those shenanigans and the gangs that have gotten him, is this ward in range?
It looks like it should be, but just maybe not seeing it in the nighttime.
Only if a reach walks past it at some point.
now though. You don't usually take that path this early in the game. Yeah, maybe he's gonna
see it now.
Nice. Okay.
Yeah.
Radiance Kurio has been killed.
A bit quieter than I expected. I thought both these teams would be running at each other
in the lanes but so far, you talked about needing to survive for Rekonix. I think we've done
a good job. Some decent stacks being set up there for FBZ and this is the classic
Timbersaw move right you hit level six you smoke up just use those souls and cut these creeps down
Very easy bunch of gold and exp and FBZ is gonna camp out from here
Both of them are doing stacks
You get one stack and you get one stack and your dream gets a stack too, but in the enemy triangle very nice
Very efficient
Very important for back to to get some raw mid lane ember in trouble ember will get caught again
mid one with the catch
man this this beast monster is going to be really really fat after that second
kill and he's going to be a huge problem you know
yeah here we were thinking that this beast master pick would mean that maybe
mid one is playing a bit slower he's just barking up the mid lane putting in
your dream into the dirt. doing a good job of flying a lot of pressure
top of the net worth to open up Kristallis actually come through the twin gates nothing
for him to do in the top lane so he comes in and you can't really respond here on Reconyx
into the threat of the split. This teamfight is absurdly scary to run up into. If he's
coming through the low trying to look for a target they see Celery. I'm saying the
tree and might be in trouble. Primal split coming through though the low with the lasso
will pull in Celery in your dreams TP'd in as well but with the bruleys going
to work, time that Requiem, pull him back, the fear is there, but he managed to get a
little bit of the Raptors dance off, chip point, still surviving and managing to life,
still up, in comes the Wheel of Wonder finally and the magic damage will bring down the cares
with Cristales, being surrounded, he's out of friends though, he's out of life,
and Boomb's gonna try for the GP out in your dream and recordics,
they have the chains and they have the kill, mid one he might get a tier one tower for this,
but you lose 2 cost even with the split!
That's actually not too bad I feel
because the Beast actually gets an important tower
so we're gonna see the fight against Sery get spotted out
he gets Besseled but they were still able to kill the Bear Rider first
but here the Grimms was very very pushy from Varys here
pushing the Asset back and then allow the
the cats to actually get his ultimate, at the last drop of HP here.
It was kind of a bit of a misplay there from Boom as well right, because we saw in that slowdown moment
there was the chance for him to just auto attack that cat, but because he did and Jekroy gets off such a huge Raptors dance.
That spells the end of it. Like you said, Victor.
They're happy, you know because the beast got the mid tower
Yeah, he's the boss of the game at this point, you know, it's gonna have a very early aggonym scepter on the Beastmaster already halfway there
It's gonna pay huge dividends in this game because they want to play a slower pace game
They're better scaling
And as long as they're not getting one over by the disruptor the bad the tamer
They're really happy to just sit back and farm on the beast and there's a
Don't need to be living on the prayer even though he's halfway there to the agonist sector already, mid-1.
Might have to hope that he won't get caught out here.
Now the static storm caught him in the kinetic field.
I'm going to combine this one. Great gank there from the conics, stopping the Beastmaster and his tracks.
I don't really have a lot of vision or mouse there.
Only one door on the front side.
Ok, auto-drop.
Up Mr. Fusey, the CEO, sticks around for a bit too long.
A lot of the vision that they have is being...
That's very strange, huh?
Why did he actually stay there after he stayed left, you know?
They killed the beast and then everyone decides to go back to farm
and he tries to farm the enemy jungle.
Almost feels like he didn't feel threatened by the supports.
Like he didn't think he could die.
I mean, overall, nice chain stun, right?
They used the Wheel of Wonder and the Overgrowth to kill him.
So that's kind of a big commitment, but still dying there is a bit.
Is that a question mark?
Yeah.
Pinder is another carry, you know?
Don't want to be dying like this.
Go.
already mentioned it when we were talking about the rosters winter it feels like
FBZ has sort of been the point of discussion where it was he's the one
that's lagging behind in one of their games yeah it's not getting the memo
quickly enough you know when it's team is moving around often always stay in
his welcome and right now miles they have a
County 3K lane, so as long as they can keep farming, they're happy
and recording on the other hand, they need to find a point of attack soon, you know.
They need to open up the safe lane tower of the SF, like if he's allowed to just sit here and farm,
the whole map is going to be available for mouse.
That's kind of what they have mapped out for themselves, at least with their stream pick, right?
I don't think Celery has left this lane even once other than going through the twin lane.
This is what you do when you get clear.
If you defend the tower and you farm the map, you don't try to be over-advasive, you don't try to make too many unnecessary manoeuvres, you sit back and enjoy the show and enjoy the farm, you know?
I guess that's why they picked the Beastmaster as well, right? Because this is a hero that can maximize that farm.
Fortunately this time, Celery walks straight into a sentry. We'll use that overgrowth to try and get out, but realistically speaking, FBZ should be able to chase him down with one more cut of the saws.
salary gets slain but I mean all these kills are nice but winter I don't know
if you watch that a steamy video you get kills but if you don't progress the
map what's it for yeah you can actually just mean nothing you know but I don't
think that kill actually man I think it was a pretty nice kill for for
Reconyx has a lot of gold. Triple X at pretty high level.
And if you don't take him off the map, he's killing the powers, you know.
Gotta remember, he's the power mechanic.
And now, mouse, because they know that Reconyx moved off,
so they're trying to take advantage of the situation, go for the rush.
That's what Agony's Visconsor does for you.
Very early rush, I'm free 15 minutes.
not very often you see Roshan dying before 15 minutes, you know when he's still on the
bottom of the area.
Only a handful of heroes that can do that, I think like Beastmaster is one of them, Haskar
is the other.
Oh sorry.
Yeah, Lhasa.
Those three probably.
Some people will consider Shadow Demon with a high enough physical damage carry
because of the minus right.
Like a Shadow Demon task or something like that.
I think it'll make it happen, but Reconyx.
lagging behind a little bit here they are going to find celery again like you
said this kill is not really a harmless support pick-off it means that he said
about he's actually dying too much right now he's playing a little bit too
too far into enemy territory I think like I said before you don't really
have to force things to be too aggressive on the trend whenever you
have a bigger map like what Miles had right now. They have control of three
ancients, the top ancients, the bottom ancients and the island ancients, so they
should be happily just sitting back in their area and farming all three ancients.
They don't even need to make any aggressive maneuvers. Yeah, you have a
Midas complete for Boom. He's got TP and just to defend but this is all you
need to do right? Show presence in the lanes, boss them back, don't let them
get any objectives and then just play chill. The threat of the split
should be able to just keep in your dream away. Yeah, he sees Boom and
just dance on out of there. It doesn't feel good for Reconyx if you're not getting killed.
This is the only ancient camp they are farming right now on NBC. Nothing more. SF is killing
the top one, Blue is farming the bot one, and Beast is farming the one in their own
side of the map. So if somehow Beast can actually go into the triangle, that would
be even a huge blow to Reconyx. Reconyx has to absolutely defend the only ancients
they have right now. But, mouse is happy farming everything. They don't even want to go into their trying zone.
They're just feeling like they're farming.
To be honest, it almost feels like Retomix need to try and make something happen to expand their territory on the map.
Here's a lasso, but I don't think you can actually kill this guy before he gets the split.
There you go.
Nice chains, but doesn't really do anything and just like that, lasso used for split.
That's a fine trade. I mean, they get that Aegis and you might get the idea that mouse want to try and put some pressure on.
Sure enough that 4 enemy heroes in the top lane, Reconyx just having used that lasso,
Mao's know that there's no threat of a fight moving. Worst case scenario, you go on the SF,
they throw out Will of Wonder overgrowth, what you gonna do?
They talked about the ancients, there's the Beastmaster in the triangle just farming away,
taking away even more map space and more resources.
You might have a battle period on your cares, but the thing is the rest of your team
they're not really farming right? Varige has just been standing here AFK for a hot minute.
The Ember is just trying to use his body to push out lane, Jekyll is just TP'ing into his
death. Oh no. And this is the problem with no space to farm here. Like he felt like that's the
only place he can go to and he just instantly dies to the B-concerned rock. That's a huge pick
off. Very very big. Extremely big blunder there from the cares. I mean he probably thought
Let me just defend this tier 2 surely. We don't give it to them for free but at the moment miles
They are mopping up everything on the map and there doesn't seem to be anything recordics can do to stop them
You record this needs to
They have to try to bring a smoke bring everybody to one area they need to secure at least this triangle
They get a glimpse back
Is it now?
Nice box to save him.
Should just be able to walk this one off, yeah.
Overgrowth not even needed.
Even the strongman taunting past us just to prep him up.
They have to reclaim this entrance.
There's no way they can play the game.
They don't even have this part of the map to farm.
Jigroy is so stuffed for resource right now.
Doesn't really matter that he can clear these camps fast, right?
He only has like 4 camps.
He only has bottom section and that's it and he can't even move forward to get the
ancients because it feels like it's so dangerous and I think the shot on the
train is gonna be online soon. Oh no he actually finished his solo first so he didn't
buy that shot. That is actually for me a pretty big mistake not getting the
shot right away. It shows that he's not really experienced with this hero on
salary. I mean rightfully so he didn't he doesn't play this hero a lot so he
doesn't understand maybe the small little power spikes of the shot on this
your shot is like insane. In this sort of game, you get the shot early, you don't even
need to finish your solo, and you run over, you put your trees, your eyes on all the ancient
camps, and you just control the sides, the edges of the map, and your opponent can't
play. Cause there's no way in their situation right now, 18 mazes in a game, 17 mazes
in a game, they can afford to buy sentries and gems to devour everything in. And
then you just farm everything and you will just starve them out of the map.
I don't know I I think we can agree to disagree on this one because I think this is an excellent solar crash game
And no, I'm not saying it's bad. It's just a sequence. The sequence is very important
Like to abuse this hero to the fullest you need to get the shot early
Right now because he doesn't have the shot you look at the map, you know
But he could have eyes on the top side right and you could see all this location by the timber and the shutter
And you can go away and kill them
It's a very very big deal
Happy to see you there
So they got eyes, it's just not in the form of the Trion Protector Shard
They still got nice wards scouting out these attempts from Rekonix to find space
Has anyone ever told you more wards is bad? More vision is bad?
I don't think so, although I will say that now even with this wards set up looks like the destroyer
Ooh, that was close
Why did he not believe?
Our cares get caught in the bot lane
I mean SF is like full on raid boss mode now thanks to this solar crest.
Did you see his damage my goodness.
Tormentor gets cleaned for free so they get a kill on the opposing carry, get a kill on
the offlaner in the top lane, get the Tormentor, it's all just vibes.
All Reconyx get is a room, great trade.
They have to find something here.
They got a two man static storm, but where's the damage?
The low is gonna come through with that lasso.
Onto the ringmaster because he's the only one that can save no more box for you.
Boon used the split a bit earlier so he doesn't have that for the team fight.
Tarn is still holding on to that BKB finally as the pop-it.
He might be in trouble here.
Tempted raw mid one will throw it out onto the timber.
It should have the damage to knock him down.
FBZ slides away with the timber chain.
Look at Jikroy on the back line looking for Boon.
Jigroy should be able to finish this one up with the Falcon Rush.
Nice little wraparound play there, catching them by surprise, the Requiem on the high ground though.
Jigroy is still really strong but Reconyx, they're finding the opportunities to get this one done.
Talking about the Christalis now, no PKB and he's out.
E.T., a 10-point salary will get cut down and Jigroy, from out of nowhere, starts on the fight of that Ravens veil.
I don't really know what Maus were thinking, sticking around without their split.
Yeah, they just overstayed their welcome.
Asap had to BKB and he didn't choose to TP right away.
He forced his team to stay around and Bs had to blink into saying like here like he just needs to TP out.
But he kind of thought to just run like this as the glimpse coming up soon.
So they are forced to protect him here.
They don't have a choice. They go in with the Bs.
They rot. They go in.
But ultimately, they just don't have the tools to fight.
No BKB, SF, no split. There's nothing.
Yeah. What a clutch flame break as well from Deload, just to push Kristallis away.
One or two more auto attacks would have finished the job,
but FBZ able to survive and come back in with the damage.
I think overall, Reconyx, they've done a great job playing what we thought their draft would look like.
Right? All this poking and frothing, coming in, coming out,
and forcing the side of Maus into a sticky situation that is so, so uncomfortable for this lineup.
You want to get in there, get it raw, kill two heroes, and be done with it.
I'm great catch at the start the low singling out the ringmaster as well preventing any chance of a save and just like that
Reconyx in a game that looked like maybe they've been completely drowned out by the mouse tempo
They found themselves some footing. They're opening back up the paths to their jungle and they're finding this farm
I'm most is still in a pretty solid position is based on that work
So they just need to kind of like regroup. They have a bruce plate right now
Yeah, let's get some stores back on the asset and continue to do what they're doing
They have the shot on the train right now. So they're gonna slowly take control of the map. Thank you
for the net pay for the next Russian and yeah, I mean
It's still fine for them. It's not the best, but they can still slowly
Take the next rose
Reconnaissance asked nothing to come up for Mr. FBZ though crimson's gonna be huge
Yeah, also have the ors. They also need to buy jam again. It's against represent the shot
They are going to need to buy a gem in the near future.
In the next couple of minutes, I think they need the gem to contest the rush.
If they don't remove the vision, they won't be able to contest the second rush.
How important is it that they contest the second rush?
Like, is the second rush going to end the game from Baozor?
No, I don't think it will end the game, but it will make it very, very hard to play the map.
Okay, so we'll be back into that chokehold situation we saw a bit earlier is what you're saying?
Yes.
Okay, gotcha.
Don't move out. Miles wants to carve a path open for themselves mid-one.
It is daytime so whoever they spot out can get instantly rolled and killed.
You don't have a save available.
Toss coming through, FBZ.
Ilya Dream's gonna be the target.
Big problem here. They can't afford to lose him.
Hitting the ties and destroy it.
Steadys storm still there to try and cover.
Ilya Dream will end up going down.
But both supports there in jeopardy.
Yamage managing to save himself and the Shadow Fiend doing the damage.
beating into FBZ but somehow the Timbers still survives.
Two for one trade there, Jikko is starting to be into those gruelings.
Last minute tornado.
Crystallis hiding around the tree line but they see him.
Still have the BKB available.
It's a 1v1 between these carries and
post-apart the BKB Falcon rush in.
Somebody needs to help Crystallis out.
Mid one doesn't have a raw Crystallis, it's gone.
Now mid one trying to fight into the cares,
But the Raptor dance just cuts him down.
Jitgroy gets it done by himself and Miles over extending just for an
Ember kill.
Reconyx get it done 4 versus 5.
They're so good playing from the outskirts of the fight.
Just poking and prodding, a flame break, glimpse.
The cat's just poking and prodding also for my distance and the moment, boom.
He doesn't have ultimate.
That's it, you know.
He's just gonna die and he's brought out of damage.
SF without BKB.
But he's so weak without the BJB, he can't exactly stand and fight
against the Tamer, the Cavs' spells, the Gleaves, the Pane.
Everything, you know, all the smallest annoying spells, you know.
Yeah, everyone in the chat with the Indo Pride, you can rise up from the grave.
It was not looking too good for Rekardix in the first 20 minutes.
Pick the signature hero, still struggled a lot.
But now, J.Croy, he's coming online, looking at that butterfly.
His damage has to be respected,
And the mouse chokehold on this game is starting to loosen
with the saws, with the chains, with the glimpses,
the control and the poke from that side of Rekonix.
It's starting to pay off and they'll get themselves the ages for the cast.
This is a big problem.
Lasso in, damage is caught again.
Mouse, you might have the best heroes in the map right now,
but if you aren't in position, if you aren't in formation,
Rekonix, they're going to pick you apart.
They are just clueless about what to do right now and they feel like if they don't stick together and they look for a fight
It's scary to play the map against bad and destructor if you cannot group up together
So I think they have to kind of risk that they need to send the children to play the dangerous areas break smoke or just die on the sidelines
And allow the beast and SF rule to just continuously scare them
They have to just farm more and wait for the next timing
Ascent is just too vulnerable in the team fights right now, like he's just no match.
Kind of similar to the previous game that we saw Mikkei on that Shadow Fiend.
Very hard for him to exist, you're so reliant on your team and the BKBs.
But Reconyx, they crafted a draft really nicely around this cast and you know, let's
be real here.
Maybe 100 people in the entire world understand this hero.
TP out, DKP, he'll be fine for reach, let's get caught though mid one, tags on to the stragglers
to some nice positive momentum, but what I was going to say is the kezin to SF matchup,
it doesn't seem like a matchup that the shadow fiend can win.
Not if they're on equal footing or even he's slightly behind.
It's okay if the SF is okay, one item a hit, but right now it's very very hard.
They have to like, I don't know, like drag the game to Ultra late, and get Beastmaster a bit refresher, and whatever the trend has, you know.
Celery's been found, though. Setting up vision on the outskirts of the map, Celery will get caught and killed.
Damn it. Yeah, heroes already. Looking like they're in so much trouble in this quest.
And that very missed the timing. Yeah, that very missed the timing. Windows Cast has already arrived in the game, and it's butterfly level 20 piling.
He is a menace on the map
I can get so easy to be lost in the fights. What should we do next on the case could you target?
One thing about jacroy. He knows exactly which buttons which of the many buttons the case has to press at any given moment
The butterfly compete for him. You can see crystal is desperately working on an MKB to counteract this
But even if he does get that item, it still begs the question will he be allowed to right-click in the fight?
So far the answer has been no
If they don't get the raw on on the cast they're not killing the cast and he has Aegis right now
so it's gonna be really tough
They have to play a couple of mazes of
High and sick if their conics have to dodge, run away, space the map until at least the Aegis expires before they make the next play
The conics have a big day for themselves here and if they can start it with a win that will
maybe swing things positively to try and come back from their current position.
12th place on the standings, 0 and 4.
Three game wins could put them in contention for the play-ins.
That would be so big for this team.
Jobs not done just yet.
Miles are not out of this by any stretch of their imagination.
might look a bit confused at the moment but this is still a shadow team that
they highly prioritized it we would assume it's a draft that they know how
they're supposed to play just a bit disjointed at the moment if they can
just hold on get their bearings back maybe we'll see something special here
when they kind of forced to group up right now it's not ideal for the
They need to farm the map, you know, but they are too afraid to disrupt them back.
They need to be close to the other on the mall site.
Problem with these best of ones is you don't even have the chance to go back and have a do-over.
You've given Jekroy his signature cares. You've given FBZ the timber.
Harish on his disruptor. All these signature heroes.
You don't get to say, oh, Nick's game will ban it.
You just have to deal with what's in front of you right now, and it's a big bad chicken.
chicken ready to peck you to death.
Detourmenter, free map.
You wouldn't even believe that the Trian protectors
on the opponent team, the Black King Bar now coming up
once that Aegis expires in 15 seconds,
Kaz is way further than online, fall whisper of the dreads, just all that burst damage magical.
They know that there is not much of a resistance in that regard.
FBZ, he's gone for full auras but the brewmaster is only now going for an AC.
You look at the team on Mauserside, they don't have a pipe, don't have a crimson.
No real way to stop this magic burst from coming through from everyone else on Reconyx.
You're so worried about cares that you might lose sight of the fact that in your dream and FBZ are really big damaged dealers as well
At this point, I think these masters the only one doing
On the mouse side, I have a blue is not very much SF can't really hit heroes easily because of the left
So
It's very very difficult. They need to rely on the high ground
Hopefully maybe on the high ground they can get a good fight and
Come back into the game
Valerie still doing a decent job setting up some deep vision allowing them to operate maybe you use this information to perhaps get a pick off on the side lanes
Seems like the only option for now, but Reconyx
Not in a rush they cleaned up most of the outer towers in top and mid
They don't really want to force it down bot because honestly, what's there to gain?
Not really an area of the map that they're too interested in at the moment anyway
They have complete vision control of the enemy jungle that they're heading into right now.
Any last soul feels like it's an instant kill here.
So letting the gold lead mount back up.
Mid one, he started this game with two kills onto the opposing mid laner but where he
might be advantageous in terms of net worth he is lacking in terms of his ability
to influence the game. Celery's been caught, bounced back in, and it's an easy lasso,
glightly a cut down. And Celery, generally a guy who is very composed, very calm, but
you've got to imagine that this has been a frustrating game for him on the
Tram Protector. Not that Network matters, but this is a hero that can split push
and remain relatively hidden. Just hasn't really felt that way.
And that's gonna show in the mid lane, trying to bait some sort of a response.
the rest of the clinics are all behind him ready to roll a static storm to cover him if needed.
The game is really tough right now. The longer they wait, it's not going to get easier.
But there's no choice. The best thing you can hope for is this maybe somehow
of these guest refreshers double BKD double raw on the high ground maybe you can win the
game on the cares I'm assuming no on the BC no like for you double raw the cares is what
yeah you have to double raw you know no Raw's no pandas try to get his way out of the static
storm bump that in by a nice flame break they got the raw onto cares cares in trouble
jikoi managing to turn around perry and wrap those dance he lives and he'll slide
down for Stalis! Jake Roy right in front bathing them in and mid one he's gonna get
surrounded but FBZ doesn't want him he knows that the peace buster can be dealt with and don't
you know that birds love mice for the breakfast! This game is all worth it. It's so far.
Too far down the drain already for mouse. Let's give up the high advantage we had,
the hard earned advantage from the lane phase from the early game. It's all down the drain.
And those couple of teamfights where they lost, they took teamfights without a boost lead.
They were destroying this, they were not ready.
Couple of random deaths on the supports on the ring, on the tree.
They were ultimately using them again.
Anyone who doubted, anyone who was watching thinking it would just be another Southeast Asia team going quietly into the night
Might have to change their minds here, OG are sitting at the very top in Reconyx, looking to try and slowly crawl their way back after a 0-4 day 1.
It is not looking good for Maus, but boy is it looking good for Reconyx on their signature heroes.
Trying to defend this second lane of Rags, but to be honest, nothing to stop Jicro and his tracks.
They'll show that respect for the SF coming back from the grave, and why not?
There's a roach available for the taking. They can just walk into the pit and secure that.
Doesn't really feel like there's much that Maus can do. See that fight again?
Look at the coordination there. Keeping this group master from influencing the fight at all.
And J.Croy, he gets so low but they just can't get the job done.
Very, very good bottom flash pressing on the cast here. Using the parry
and the raptor dumps at the right time. The VKB is allowing him to survive
Last episode on the hero, it just shows you how masterful he is.
He knows exactly when to use his buttons.
That's kind of one of the things about Kez, right? People always talk about this hero in terms of the sheer amount of burst that he can dish out.
I have to hold that thought.
It's not much of a fight. I mean, it's too slow.
Like you said, J.Croy gets that Aegis and you'll just send a ball in to die trying to get the information
Maybe Maul still want to take a fight though
Trying to catch them by surprise boom
He needs to get a split off onto the high ground
It's a real small damn barrage in big trouble
Where's your settings? Don't toss out the waves
Still gets the staffing on the mid one
The Beastmaster, he's caught out by Inga Dream
Able to pop that BKB and Mauls are in big trouble
J.Croy is going to chop them all down
But an overgrowth might have just bailed them out
We are still holding on to the shadow fiend and he's got nowhere to run
That last up and eyes and long for this world as jickroy chasing on to him the night splink away though boom
Man have just survived, but
It is a very thin silver lining here
Just like the rats that they are they have to try and find a nook or cranny in the map to hide but boom
He'll be losing his life and the gem to FBZ godlike on the Timbersaw, Reconyx showing up big time
That wasn't as good as they were able to surprise them. I don't think Reconyx knew what was coming
They were trying to farm the jungle there and all of a sudden they got jumped but they still couldn't win the team fight
say it a bit of the problems right because you run into a disruptor, any other line-up
you feel like Varige is 100% dead but because your disables are not very
straightforward it's like it's like a little slow from the Impelman arts it's
like a little Cinder Bruce slow you don't want to roar the disruptor so
because of that Varige just literally force staffs out and survives three
heroes running at him like this is never supposed to happen but Miles
They put themselves in a position where they don't really have much but the raw and the overgrowth to work with
And we've been talking about jikroy this whole game
But the static storms the backup from the rest of the team in your dream and FDZ
They've been doing an excellent job as well and Christales will be caught no say for you as in your dream
Just rubs the back line and chops them down
DG is called as recordics. They'll put their first win here on the board selfies Asia a
Bit late to the party only showing up in day two
but Indopry all the way as they will trample down their opponents.
You know what residence from them you know?
Starting the game really really in a rough spot,
losing their lanes but somehow just being patient,
even though Beastmaster was hopefully dictating the pace of the game with the early rush,
15 minutes rush on, it was like being a huge tremendous on their side of the map,
but slowly but surely they were able to be patient,
find the pick-offs with the glimpse, with the vessel,
the vessel and eventually they will seize the opportunity when Maus over-extended and
they pay a huge price for it and allow Reconyx to seize control back onto the enemy.
Now what do you think went wrong here because it just felt like Maus they had good tempo
going but then in some of these fights just one small mistake or one small slip up caused
them everything. You like to tell me a lot Winter if your draft has such a low margin
for error then maybe it's a problem in the draft.
It's not the job. It's the way they're playing. I think sorry just doesn't know how to play train. It's just pretty much
One of the main reason why they lost the game
He's like dying in wrong places because he's not supposed to be there and he's not like scouting enough and the shot
You know the shot tells me that he doesn't understand a hill the fact that he didn't buy shot when they were so far ahead
He was so rich to control and make sure that the
Cast has nowhere to from they were in a position of such dominance
They had control over four of the ancient camps, you know, and they still lost the game you imagine the troll that happened there
Like when they were spit up they were caught by the I think it was the blames or the bearded lasso
Yeah, and then they PKB on the asset in the jungle didn't TP out
They still wanted to fight and then they lost all the heroes in the jungle
That that was terrible, you know, that was never supposed to happen with the leap that they have with three protector
Yeah, it's been a pretty rough day for miles so far starting out with a loss to Tundra
that didn't look very convincing and then now dropping a game to Reconyx as well.
I think people underestimate Reconyx but if yesterday wasn't a warning signal
enough, this game might just be.
But we're moving on to our very next best of one.
It's going to be Gamer Legion against Team Spirit after short break.
The great games continue here as we are back for more Blast, Slam, Six, Group Stage action.
Day 2 of the Fiesta Winter and now we're on to Gamer Legion vs Team Spirit.
Now earlier today, we already saw Team Spirit kind of get bowled over, right?
It wasn't really a good look against Yandex.
And we weren't too happy about what we saw because, you were saying Winter, they
They don't really seem very solid in the lanes, especially Mirelle standing in for Laos,
but they tried to play a draft that had very little wiggle room after they lost the early
game.
I mean, hopefully they give him a little bit more priority, or they have to just give
him some sort of like good hero in his blind matchups, I'm not sure.
Because I think he's not a player that strikes me that would do well, even if you give
him priority.
He's like a good sacrificial core, you know, he likes to play for other people.
So they have to figure out how to start the draft to ensure maybe he has a melee support
to help him, so Kerun or something like that, to give him something in the early game so
that he can at least play his game.
Yeah, it's been a bit here and there for them so far.
I think on paper bounty hunter rotating in should sound nice but it doesn't really
have the same level of horror as such as Husk or something, right?
I just didn't really like that.
No, it's actually the more I think about it.
It was the 16-17 Sniper. It wasn't the support pick. Maybe you can blame the support picks with the bounty, but it was still also the fact that they picked Sniper without seeing enough, you know, I think the information that they had there was just not sufficient to pick the Sniper.
Yeah. And for their opponents here, we'll see whether Spirit can adapt. But Gamer Legion have struggled to adapt so far.
yesterday they were on a pretty good start and largely because of the RCY Storm, right?
He had amazing performances, showed up Team Falcons and showed up Heroic, but then subsequently against Extreme Gaming and OG,
they just couldn't quite get that same tempo. No surprises that it was the Storm First Face Band in both of those games.
So you take out the RCY Storm, what's the backup plan?
I think this matchup for me is going to be a battle between the mid laners who can assert superiority overall
Meryl still seems like a gem that needs to be polished a bit more. He's not quite at low level and
Spirit a bit of work there maybe to support him and enable him a task
Perhaps you were saying you don't like the 16 17
But I wonder how much of that decision was Meryl saying give me sniper versus the team saying, okay
Let's put you on this hero
I mean, it's hard to say, we can only speculate, we will never know what is the true reason,
we can only make adjustments based on what we see in the game, but we will not know
the true factor that caused them to do that.
So you just have to see what they do in this game, whether they'll do some adjustments
that we were talking about, prioritize his hero, or just pick his hero early but give
him like the Spirit hero. Pick a Storm, pick an Ember. Sometimes do it at 9 because they
have a second pick right now. So they can definitely pick Meryl's hero at 9. Just pick
him his mid hero, whatever he wants to play, and then ban for him. And pick supports later
in the second phase that can help him succeed.
You could try to use the Gamer Legion tendency to pick Storm as a bait, right?
If you don't ban it here, Gamer Legion might just feel like they can 8 pick it,
and then that's where you get Meryl a 9 pick counter. Let's see whether Gamer
legion choose to snap that up because the two games that they won common I guess
factors is not just the story but also they're gonna start these out and in day
one alone Viper 100% contest rate 75% win rate so in the games where it's
shown up it's looked amazing Jansen has played it on the carry and it just
gives you so much flexibility in the draft
it's very annoying this hero can go any lane win any lane farm quick no apparent
weaknesses apart from the fact that he is not here we catch you that's the only
that's the only thing you can say about the hero like what is his weakness apart
from that it's not really apparent what you see at the break mechanic you
have lane dominance you can clear stacks whatever you need on the team
The Viper is going to provide for you.
The Spirit looking to put their second win on the board here, only defeating Navi.
That was the team that defeated the Navi mid IO by the way.
The mid with... Other than that, it lost to Liquid, it lost to Maus when we saw the earlier.
And out comes a Maus early on. So going to put Collapse on his Segi. What's this about?
No idea, I guess they're trying a different way of drafting, they're trying to pick Collapse
early.
That's the last time they picked him last and the draft didn't feel so good so they're
totally changing things up, they're picking his hero early at 9.
So...
I mean they picked his hero on 9 in the previous game against Yandex too, they started with
a Centaur War Runner and the Viper and it didn't work.
And then like the subsequent, I actually don't think I'm looking at their recent
They haven't really last picked Collex ever.
I mean does it mean it might be a mid?
Mars?
No way right?
What would that be?
There's only one team that did it.
Guess who?
I actually have no idea.
You didn't watch that game?
Was it OG?
Yeah brother.
What was the rationale behind the mid Mars then?
Yeah, because the...
Did they just roll switch or something?
No, the enemy thought it was an off-lane Mars so they banned out a lot of the mid heroes
heroes and then they picked, I think it was TB or something, Darkseer counters it so they
move the mask and then they pick Darkseer.
Right, okay, no that makes a lot of sense. OG on fire right now, I think they just dropped
the game to heroic, so that's gonna be their first loss. It's crazy, I feel like Blast
Lamb 6 has been so exciting because whatever you expect, just know you're gonna be wrong.
Like you are straight up just wrong. You think what Falcon's gonna be at top of the
board spirit are gonna swing back, Merell's gonna look good, Gamer Legion are
gonna look like ass. Not all of those incorrect unfortunately for you. But that
keeps things exciting, that keeps things fresh here in our madness of best of
ones. Okay we've had some time to marinate in it a little bit. Maybe it's a
different approach to the draft but why Mars into Viper? Like what does it do
for you. I don't know. I think Mars is just a valuable hero, valuable team fight hero.
I don't think I'm supposed to think about that. But this is the thing that I mentioned
right when your second pick, if you pick like two cores right away, normally you would
see like 9 SF and then 13 Mars, you know. But now we see it the other way around.
And so what does Gamer Lijun respond to? I think they need like a melee hero right
now, like Taz. Taz is the critical hero here. I think they should pick Taz
right away yeah the premier one for sure and just get so much done insane
flexibility in the kit. Tars plus what would be the idea maybe warlock speed I
know he loves his warlock. He does love his warlock. Tars warlock would be nice here.
Game and Legion have actually relied on this lago pick a lot so the lago pick
has a double effect on them. The winning combination for supports that
they found this warlock and dark willow so maybe we see them oh that game I
remember that game hmm yeah it looked pretty solid and the amount of damage
you can spread with the dark willow and the fatal bombs is kind of insane so I
can kind of I can get behind it they go for the
yes they want to last pick a support can we treat a support so I don't think
they'll be picking tasks with this it's probably going to be a ranged hero here
it's probably something like Skyra
what's the what's the vibe here are you thinking DK mid DK safe DK off what's the
deal no idea but DK is not off I think it's definitely not off but if they pick
a ranged hero you also make it hard for the Viper to go off lane so maybe Viper
is going to be carry DK is going to be mid so I think there are a lot more
telegraphed with how they're going to lane their heroes with the next pick
Unless they can pick a melee hero. If they pick a melee hero everything will be still up in the air because it kind of enables the off-lane.
Okay, they pick slow stone.
I'm surprised that they didn't pick the fast position.
Holy, look at that spirit. No exactly what they want. They did not hesitate for a moment.
Putwing clock, both support snapped up.
I guess you're gonna put putwing on 4 and clockwork on 5 for the lane matchups?
Yeah, most likely.
And when you also don't has already used a lot that reserve time you should just pressure them don't give them time to think
Let's pick your heroes right away. That's a advanced draft strategy right there
Viper DK is mid and carry. I
Think it's actually going to be a carry Viper from Yamson and a mid DK
Okay. That's my opinion.
Okay, so last pick of support, I need a ranged hero.
For sure. There's Sky, there's Shadow Shaman, there's Moeta.
What is good here?
Sorry, just let me check.
A ranged hero to pair with the Dragon Knight in the presumed safe lane?
Is what you're thinking?
Oh yeah, a ranged hero for the Dragon Knight.
Or the Viper, whatever it is.
Okay.
Warlock is a nice man.
He is a nice man.
Have you spoken to him?
He gets banned though.
really rude of them to do that to that very kind individual I know he loves
his better man so and he's so sad that he can't play better now speed wait what
kind of play better now just pick it then I was not a hero bro it's not I think
he's going to play like snap I think here maybe snap I don't think he's a
destructive player so he's probably gonna play snap or like maybe something
like a partner. There's Shakiro. There's Shakiro. That's partner. I think those three are his type of heroes.
But also go for the Dazzle.
I think awkward in the procord but I just think like it helps them with what they want to do, which is like the ball.
Oh I think they need damage. They need damage. They need to post fire to dust damage.
Like you stun with the toss and decay but what is your damage right? You need something that can instantly kill heroes.
okay sure so like some for i guess like ice puff macro pyre would be a great
follow-up yeah okay now with damage that's why i mentioned step uh the other pick was
what was it what was the other one that i mentioned disruptor yeah disruptor
disruptor doesn't give damage but i think he kind of also rounds up the lineup somewhat
that's a snack give them the damage give them a nice little handy escape if you are in the
You can hop out of it. I think enough speed videos to know what he likes
Platinum subscribe are you a fan would you say you're a fan of speed no comment
Okay, I'm a fan right okay, you got it. You tell me from me. I'm a fan. Thank you
Doesn't mean I'm gonna be biased to speed, you know
All right
I'm a very objective person. Yeah, I
Historically, I think that's what you've been known most as the O in winter stands for objective. There is no O in winter
Let's get me out of here
Spirit what's the last pick gonna be probably a morale hero
So they kind of went the opposite direction unless this is like a mid SF confirmed and then they are last picking a Toros
So that's the option right now.
I think he's going to play, he's not going to play Aston, he's going to play some rotating here, Tiny, Earth Spirits here.
I think Tiny looks kind of nice here.
I kind of like Tiny.
Lash I guess is okay too.
What makes Tiny nice here?
I feel like he struggles versus DK Viper though.
But it's what they need you know, I think they need another source of damage.
Maybe you're right, Lash will be better for the lane as well.
Tiny against DK but it might not be so good for the game.
As Qwap, as Lash.
It's not a lockdown though for like the Qwap.
I guess they have the hookshot to cancel BKB Black Hole, that's what they have going for them right? That's pretty nice.
the hero that helps the mid laners with the weak laning phase because you don't actually
have to play the lane.
I guess it helps them play a lot of like it helps them play really fast pace you blast
the wave and they cannot push the towers.
Vessel hero too so it's good against the DK and Viper and you can kinda move early
your form because you are dealing with an enigma off lane right usually he will
pressure the tower very early on so Kotho is very good at negating that pressure
you can defend the tower
actually it's a very nice pick I didn't think of that this is a very nice last
pick around everything up they found a hero for the man on the screen and
and this is the right hero.
Miriel Koto.
I mean this hero has gotten so many buffs in the recent patch,
so he's actually a pretty good Milena at the moment.
But you need to be really, really experienced with that hero to utilize it.
Like, not every mid player has this hero in the pool.
Trying to find out now if he has played it.
He has 314 games.
So one of his top 5 most played heroes.
That should mean something right?
51% win rate nothing crazy hasn't brought it on pro though 51 is balance win rate right yeah
It's like okay. It's like decent. I think he's brought it out in a couple of EPLs when he's playing a yellow submarine
Wow, I mean this is a man knows man
Mike knows all about me girl. No, I'm I'm doing this thing where I look up stats winter you should
I just have his page open. What do you want? Okay, I'm trying to glaze you. Do you like the
Cottle or do you dislike it? Yes, I like the Cottle. Come on, bro. Yeah, but is it kind
of good enough to round up Team Spiritstraf? Yes. So you like Spiritstraf more? Yes.
I think they have a lot more options and their lineup is pretty fast dynamic.
You can play fast with the quarter SF and I think all the gamer legions like DK, Viper
and Ingmar cause you're super reliant and lanes going off.
If your lanes don't go extra well to begin with, you're going to be stuck with three
calls that need to come along.
I mean you can kind of be active once you get the dagger but this is not a hero that
just fights early once you get dagger maybe you can make one move two moves but
after that you have to farm you can't just keep moving around you know so I
think a lot of the pressure is going to be on the early game for the gamer
leaders like they need to snowball from the lanes they need a good start so they
can take towers with the enigma and play the game from there you know
but if they don't get to do that things are going to get very very
It's very complicated and slow for that lineup. And I think that it's going to be in favour of team spirit.
Eyes on the supports then, it seems like for speed and big num to make some of these TP rotations, a twin gate rotation.
You see what they did? They just gathered top and then spoke from the top.
Do you see what they did?
I'm a bit confused. It's almost like they were expecting someone to be there.
They didn't find him and then they're like, okay, well back to regular programming.
I see. Yeah, actually maybe that would have been the reason.
All these teams, they make a lot of different approaches to the start of the game, or the beginning of the game.
So maybe they're trying to make a lead there, but it just didn't happen.
They're annoying that the Eidolon was standing on the high ground.
I was going to actually compliment the enigma that he's using his Eidolons to scout in the smoke and all that,
but then it actually amplifies the damage done to Jemson, but nothing he can't dragon's blood off.
I think they got 3 runes so whatever you do.
Brooo!
Can't complain Mike.
Really?
You?
Can't complain?
There is always something to complain about, even with the 3 runes start of the game.
I mean I've heard you complain about everything, I wouldn't say it's nothing you can't complain
about.
What do you think everything is gone perfectly here for you?
Do you think gamer legion have gotten what they wanted?
Please stop talking about it's really good to get children's bro. You have any mind when you get children's anyone
It's not the most useful here. I don't want
I guess the melee versus melee matchup makes sense for the club work to get that battery assault
You like usually you just see level one cause just to try and burn the man out of your opponents
Yeah, this is a tough thing for
I think that's why it's very,
very good at killing the
It needs to keep his little
baby safe. I guess nothing's
going to happen, right? Like
I mean, he took poison attack
a lot. So maybe it means that
Why he took poison attack?
He's just here.
And don't step up to try and set up for the razors to kill off these Idle Ones.
It drops very low though. You gotta watch yourself on the damage with the tag team.
Jamsun, getting focused down last bits of damage. Gonna try and find the Dragonite.
Looks like they'll get the last plate.
Rule drawing first blood. This lane not going well for Jamsun at all.
I don't know how much he has to do with the level 1 damage to the island, right?
Because he returned to the lane without full health, and then he got poked and prodded again.
I think all these small things actually matter a lot, you know, for the laning phase.
Oh, sure, yeah.
And the thing is, Dragon Knight reaches a point where he's very hard to push out,
but level 2, level 3 is not one of those points.
He still has low levels.
In fact, he doesn't even have a level in the Worms Raft yet.
Oh, sorry, I'm completely mistaken, no, it doesn't even matter.
I'm high. That's a one year ago and you're calling me old. Huh? Calling me old.
Bro. I mean, I was like, I was giving you an out. You know, I didn't say. You don't have to say anything. I need to make mistakes.
You know, we are supposed to support each other. That's why I kept quiet. Thank you so much. But you, but you on the other hand, every time I see something
I think I've seen something that says otherwise.
Some razors coming out onto big num, blood grenade on the high ground gets that kill.
Your Toro and Panto finishing the job there.
I mean you have to kill the support but the blood grenade is killed.
Yeah and you use blood grenade and you get the kill.
It kind of feels like you're throwing a tomato at them.
Boo! Bad performance!
But yeah.
Yeah, actually today is going so much better for Anima.
I thought the lane would be good for the SNF, but I think I'm wrong.
So Anima can actually play this game.
You know, we're just splitting.
Like, good micro, it makes sure that he doesn't get the razors up onto the...
the idlers and just deny creeps.
Yeah.
And last game.
It's probably a little bit weird to say,
I think the Tusk presence is also playing a big part, like duh right, but they're focusing a lot of attention on to Big Num instead of Fade.
So Fade's able to split his Idle Ones every single time, keep on farming, he's 22 and 3, double the CS along with RCY who, you know, you're against the Cordon.
Okay, he's right.
She can actually win the lane, pressure, lane with the pot. I was kind of like thinking, why is he like committing on poison in this lane, you know.
Actually, again, you know, I have no idea about this matchup,
so I thought I could actually win this matchup with two points in poison.
The Mirals having trouble even stepping up.
I feel like usually you want to blast, and then get those last hits.
R.C.Y. is starting to chase, because Miral, if the TP out,
plants the tree to try and get the vision away.
Still, R.C.Y on the prowl,
winlays and boots will serve Miral well.
He manages to get out of that stick situation.
They picked the Calfor into this matchup,
So they must have felt like maybe the matchup wasn't so bad.
Much like the previous series, unfortunately, Spirit seemed to be wrong about that.
And we'll see how much it unravels their game plan.
Because you said there's a lot more flexibility, so maybe even if this Cottle doesn't snowball out of the mid,
we need to watch for those first few rotations with the urn, right?
Especially when he gets level 6, at least you need level 6 on Mira before you can start to move.
But the Viper is just causing so much problems in the game right now.
so much pressure the tower is going to take a lot of damage from the siege and big nub is here on the
tusk and there is there need to deal with this right now and they can't really keep the creeps
alive though that siege creep is still going to drop to the tower so just a bit of a scratch there
on the mid lane, un-complete almost level six on your koto might start to look for a move
bot lane could be a pretty attractive option for them to start things out on the enigma has
been sitting here AFK farming for a while. Yeah it's probably the lane that should be
attacking. You don't want to be attacking the quarter lane because it's so hard to
go through the illuminate and he's just spamming it to clear the creeps you know. So you
don't really have a proper angle. Big num the bouncer here walking into mid lane to
make sure RCY can play aggressive, walking down to bot lane to make sure Fade is
fine threatening a little bit with the shards here comes the TP yes the first
move for spirit bomb move the way that gamer legion reactor almost feels like
they knew somehow I mean it's hard the angle is difficult that was a very
tough timing to get a kill and now this is actually bad because shrines are
Coming up and he has no TP.
Is it that obvious that he was moving to the bot lane?
I don't know. I don't know.
I think they were just taking 3 potions, you know, just because they don't see the portal on the map, so they were just trying to play safe.
That makes sense.
I can ask you why.
He's rotating, they'll spot him now with the vision, try to make the most of that arcane rune.
I thought maybe one of the teams would try and exert their dominance to steal away the wisdom shrines, but there'll just be one piece.
And overall, I mean, Gamer Legion, you said they needed to snowball out of the lanes, they aren't having the kills rolled their way, but everybody's farming, no one's truly suffering other than maybe the Dragonite a little bit.
Yeah, it's good, the Viper and anyone being part of the network, that's fine, I think it's pretty good for them.
They may be behind in kills, but network-wise they are doing okay.
When he gets his arena with the Cossel, these are the points where they need to combine their
spells together.
Cossel is putting himself in an aggressive position, looking for an opening there, but
the thing is they saw him on the wall.
Panto and Rue were de-warding that spot right outside of the secret shop, but before they
even cleared the ward, Mirrell walked past towards the lane.
So they knew the Cautel was walking towards that direction.
Of course, they're just going to get the hell out.
They are all the moos but Mirrell has not been working so far in this game.
There's a little bit to, I think Rushed seems especially the bottom move initially,
when he tried to kill the enema when the wave was in front of the enema's tower.
It just kind of feels like someone on the gamer you didn't promise right now is saying
they have no choice but to try and make something happen to the Koto.
He has zero earn charges.
He wants to try and find a play on the map,
but if we all just stick to our towers and play safe,
there's no angle for him. He's going to end up wasting a lot of time.
This whole time, Viper's farming, Fates farming, Gansun's farming.
You've got your boots to travel, so ask him why he's ready to respond to whatever.
I kind of like the set up the gamer legion half of themselves here
Got two aura's potentially coming out at the 12 13 minute mark because your boots of bearing being worked on by fate and
Also the viper he's working on a crimson guard
Seems to be the nom nowadays it's really good against the shadow of him
It's also really good for the Viper because you have magic resist, so you just want some physical resistance and you can kind of unkill a lot of the team fights.
I feel like so often we see the Viper's go get an early lead, spend a lot of their initial gold trying to build towards their eggs and it's a great item, don't get me wrong.
But then it makes you kind of have a pile of dead network for a lot of portion of the game that you already scored, right?
Boots of travel x5 cable I want six cable on the ring. Yeah. Yeah, literally like the boots of travel is already kind of if you're not able to find
Moots on the map, maybe it loses a bit of value. Sure you move from camp to camp
Pastor, but this smoothens things out and allows you to actually take fights and
maybe even win them because the damage from spirit at this current stage in the
game it's so lacking and you talk about them needing to play through
collapse I haven't even seen an arena come out yet. No one's here to join
hands with their first pick mask. Everyone's just kind of chilling.
I'm just jinxed it here but Anto's gonna reveal that he's to the north of that
rocket flare. Gotta make something happen but gamer
legion look at them. Something is going to happen. DK is baiting.
They were dangling dragon meat right in front of their faces and they took the bait.
The tusk and the stepfire just combine together and they destroy the keeper of the light.
You can see here.
Snowballs, shards, even the Viper's shards actually.
I mean the rest of your supports cannot even connect with the damage right?
Because Flaps, he doesn't use the arena right away.
He throws the spear out onto Jamsen that actually pushes him further from everyone on Spirit.
So you dumped all your spells into this one guy who's now been saved all the way to the right.
can't reach him, you see Panto and Rue desperately trying to cling on. That's the key difference,
they haven't found much action and because of that, you don't have your sharpshooter,
you don't have your hookshot.
Try to force that move before Spirit were fully ready. They get punished for a big
time.
It's also the effect that they made that move without best of charges as well.
Yeah.
I mean, he's going to have one now because he died.
Wonderful.
But that's the problem with like being too forced with your movements, you know.
He wasn't even a smoke, it was daytime, he was trying to run in and they just kind of
pay their price for it.
Would you say now that we've watched two spirit games on this street that it's a bit of a trend?
Because I feel like even in the previous game, where they had this dominant early advantage,
it felt like in moments where they didn't need to fight, they were just trying to
make something happen and then they would get caught with their pants down, picking
pants down Jensen, getting stunned, getting caught, and this time round he doesn't have
any allies nearby. Still absurdly tanky, those infused raindrops, Fade's gonna come in with
a big black hole to cancel this entire attempt out. So much for no friends, they wrap around
him in an instant and say come here little dragon knight, you're completely fine. RCY
will finish off that kill and help his fellow brother who's green and has wings.
That was, again, you know, like spirit pushing the limits a little bit too far then.
Just barely had enough damage here to finish off the kill.
It's very unfortunate.
Rain drops there saving the DK's life.
Yeah, not just that, but the brief fire damage reduction, right?
Those auto attacks coming out from Mars could have finished him off, but he manages
the cast as well.
I'm a raindrops, Mike.
I'm a raindrop, I guess you would, right?
Every support player buying strange jobs.
It's the cause in lane that get position 4 zoos bolted 8 times and they're like,
I guess I don't have a lane and I'm like,
You know, I feel like it's one of those things where they ping you.
You know, you still get people ping you to share yourself.
For the record, I never share myself anymore.
Yeah, because it feels so awful.
It feels like you're putting gold down the drain, like...
I still share tangos in situations of need, but...
Gatoro, he needs help is what he needs.
Ultima's kisses, the two supports, tag team up to get the job done, Panto.
Gotta get surrounded. Spirit, they are losing numbers all across the map.
And that sharp shooter is gonna try and land onto Big Num, he dodges out that blast though.
With the blinding light, they'll get the kill on the Tassel, and they at least find something,
but it still doesn't feel that good.
The power of the Tars and Snuff are really showing in this early game.
It's combining the two supports just killing off Core after Core.
They killed the Cauter before this and now they're killing the Cheryffin.
And this is the benefit of really putting a heavy amount of priority into picking the right duo.
You don't just pick supports that your supports want to play, but you pick a duo that works together.
And you can see plays like this happening, you know, two supports just killing off Corsair.
Yeah, it always feels the worst when you have a task and then you look on your team and
no one you can combine with, right?
So I'm sure Bignum is very happy in this game, he can run along with their enigma, RCY
is ready to support them with the booster travels.
Can't defend this tower though, deny, very cute.
Slap in the face of spirit. 1v2 he gets a deny.
There are things that have been going really well for game and region last couple of minutes.
I think it's great that they're not too far behind. I don't necessarily feel they're in a hurry to do anything.
They have the dagger on Mars right now so they should slowly just try to look for smaller copies together.
They need a third hero in the movement, it's not just the Mars plus the Hoedring.
This land seems to be a tricky tournament for Spirit to succeed in.
The past few results haven't looked too good. The most recent one, they lost 5th, 6th, 2th, Mouses unfortunately.
They didn't even make it to Chambu for the record. I'm talking about Singapore. That was the 5th, 6th result.
result. Now with this potential game hanging in the balance, feels like gamer
legions are the one in the driver's seat and you really need to start
picking up these dubs on spirit. That's not gonna be a good start. Bushwag off the
mark and a very easy snowball away to try and dodge. Panto will try and lock
him up though but the shots comes out quickly to save. He looks fine for now
but collides in with the blink with the arena the two supports that have caused so much pain for spirit will finally be taken revenge on
Double kill for morale. That's more like it
Yep, they have to do that combine the mass and the cocktail on the same location to make a play
That's gonna give them enough damage to kill any here
And space for yet. Oh, he's happy now. He gets a couple of minutes of safe now
They can definitely slowly plan towards how they can get the Tormentor in a couple of
minutes, you know.
Enigma has dagger now, so he's on the prowl.
And the smoke, we beat them.
Gonna try to look for a kill on the top area.
At least stay some watts to prepare for the Tormentor timing.
Vincent in some trouble, Rateron by Yotaro and company.
Untargo is way out of this one unfortunately, the Dragonite gets caught and killed.
Great move there from Spirit.
Wrestling control back of this game.
He was expecting his team to come down through the gate a little bit earlier,
but he kinda like, I think he went down to the lane just a little bit too early.
He had to wait for them to come closer.
I think he was trying to bait or something, but they were not in position yet.
yet. Any mark arrives now. Let's see if they can find a blink black hole.
Taro already hiding near his team, near his vision.
Bicknum is going to come running in. Snowball to buy them the time and the info.
There's the black hole. No cancel but they managed to get the bush
whack. Requiem coming out and ripping Gamer Legion to shreds.
The hookshot will find Bicknum and the last earn charge takes looks to finish
off Fade as well. Still being killed up by the tower region.
R.C. Wyner on the front lines in the tough spot. Arena back off cooldown, Blast is there
and Rue with a double kill. Spirit coming up big in these teamfights thanks to Collapse
and his setup. Not allow Gamer Legion to have their way. A clutch push whack there from
Rue to cancel the Black Hole and Spirit up back.
Very, very nice initiation. I think the player also kind of knew something was coming.
He was really cautious there. He wasn't actually just hitting the tower. Even though
They have numbers advantage in that fight.
You can see, look at this, he's playing so careful that he wasn't running up to hit the tower.
After the Black Hole came, we'll cancel it, and that's it, the vacuum comes out, and the fight was over for him.
Very nice coordination from the team spirit side.
You've got to keep in mind as well that, I mean, that was a pipe fight if I'm not mistaken.
I don't know whether the Viper had completed it at that point.
Yeah, he had, but he didn't have the chance to actually press it.
So a lot of that requiem damage just laying straight into the HP vahs of his allies when
the hook is safe and collapse he's found Jamsun again.
Has been an area where Jamsun's been caught out trying to blink away, you got a spear?
Follow him!
Jamsun's gonna be caught and collapse just has his number!
He smells the dragon blood there, pinpoints his location and cancels the TP.
Now that's going to give them the moment to
I can't see how gay religion is going to be able to come to us right now
That's a big, big loss
Let's go to GPS attached to a spear or what? How does he keep finding these?
I had to be fair, the DK was facing the top side
And that was like one of the only faces he could attack at the end
I mean not just that but just even the initial idea of starting to look up in that area
really really smart there from spirit to continuously find these heroes of gamer
Legion and they're coming back in a nidma on the front line being set up on
another arena collapse you just can't stop the snow ball saber put that even
even walls position because the requiem is waiting another hook shot
another kill panto got a porch speed away and crumble him into the dirt
And that was such a brilliant move. They were not taking Tormentor at the beginning of the 20th, they just went and looked for our kill.
Gamer Legion probably thinking, oh, they're going to do Tormentor, let's just farm this area, push out the wave and go back.
But guess what, T3, they pop the smoke, they ran at them and they caught them in their pants down.
And now they go to the Tormentor.
Now all of this is possible because of that earlier Dragon Knight kill, the fact that they have vision in this Tormentor,
and they've cleaned out the vision from Gamer Legion.
So Gamer Legion just have to work based off assumption.
They placed some nice wards outside that jungle area to keep themselves safe,
but that's exactly why the smoke caught them with the pans down.
4k gold lead now, the 21-minute mark.
Team Spirit starting to get into their groove.
And Gamer Legion, after a pretty decent start in the laning phase,
are losing their grasp of this game.
They have to be patient wait for I think they have to wait for the BKB stuff right now.
That's like no other way for them.
Take it easy from BKBs.
You can send a snap on the pass to just maybe block the smoke so try to create some
sort of diversion on the map but you have to really focus on getting the BKBs up
on enigma and DK right now.
They're making a smoke play here, I'm not sure if I like this too much.
I think they can only go for a pick off, they can't go for like a big 5v5 fight.
Has to be a 1 and done here, but.
To 0 cause there's no heroes.
He's risky, so risky man, this will still be a disaster and they're gonna lose
We couldn't get a so black hole Janssen with a quick blink out, Bricks of Smoke collapse,
found him in the arena Janssen in trouble, and the rest of the team is saying bye bye
buddy, we don't want no part in that.
Yeah that is such a big mistake there, but if his team are really ditched then he can't
really farm that camp, so really he wants to farm that camp before he daggers out.
So you know, a little bit inside you
feels the joy when you see a greedy claw getting punished in the game.
I think they call that being a hater, Winter.
That's nice, I'm telling you guys, never farm this game, you know?
You're crossing the line.
Just because you get away with it in your pubs doesn't mean it's right, you know?
This is the start from the pub, this is the last line we're talking about,
there's Malta on the line, brother.
Yeah, precisely, I'm saying a game of this level,
you don't get away with things like this.
Absolutely.
You better clip that DK dying there.
And whenever your call argues with you,
that he's supposed to farm in some god-node
for sports secondary,
you show him this clip.
What are you talking about?
We play in Southeast Asia.
If these guys listen to reason,
we wouldn't be in this situation.
You try and logically argue,
it's gonna get you nowhere.
It's gonna get you poor reports.
It's going to spoil your mood all the day.
Yeah, literally.
There's no point.
Just give it up.
It's better to mute and play.
No, for real.
I'm kind of sad, you know, I want everyone to be learned.
I want my quality of pubs to improve, you know, that's why you have to educate the people.
Yeah, that's why you go play EU, brother.
Wait, what, 255 ping?
Radiant are scanning.
Singapore internet, 180 ping.
That's not that bad actually.
Then everything in Singapore is literally better except the food.
Okay, relax now.
Get into the roach pit, there you go.
Nothing much that Gamer Legion can do.
They have all their team fight ultimates, they have their cooldowns, but it just doesn't
feel like they can convincingly fight into spirit at the moment.
Spirit has hit their power spikes, everything's coming together here for your Toro, and
meanwhile we were gassing up Gamer Legion on their aura timings, right?
I was thinking, oh, you know, you got the boots and bearing.
You've got this pipe on the viper.
Really cool.
But I'll see why he hasn't really been
able to convert his early game dominance
into anything more.
Is other calls still struggling towards their BKBs
at the moment?
You can't even say that late game they have this BKB
black hole that can't be stopped here as a clockwork.
So it's tough, and I'm going into late game.
All right, speed is going to just casually come
through the gates.
guys I found them is what you do as a support when you found fight, you find the information.
Yeah.
You can find more lessons like that on gameleap.com.
You've been waiting the whole game to say that yeah.
Don't worry about it.
Jump in, Pantos in trouble, they're looking towards your tower but they can't commit
for the bigger target.
Cookshot into some island I'll see why not caught by the spear but caught by the walls of the arena with nowhere to run
Your Toro will just click him down
I'm even losing a single hero Pantel survives that entire engagement somehow
And collapse has been just insane is here first big Mars and he's
Why are we messing around with all these drafts?
Why are they picking him sentoi?
Literally.
I'm sure he felt the same as well.
He said, guys, what do you want me to do on a sentoi?
Give me my mouse please.
He's so good on that hero.
I think best mass in the world is either him or our ma.
That's about it. No one comes close.
I guess in a distant third place, you might say XSS.
It's SSS.
Distant.
Distant is pretty good also.
Yeah, he's pretty good but compared to Collapse, huh?
It's all Fiest Caster right there.
Sure, yeah.
Ooh, that's the 19 HP, baby.
Save the Aegis for another rainy day.
It's not the down anymore the rain there isn't last fall day.
It's not the bonsoon season right now, the sun is out every day.
I think the sunny as hell in Malta, let's see a replay of that, I think we've got
it clicks out on SF dropping very low.
So whose fault was it?
Oh no, look at speed it was his fault.
He missed?
He missed a couple blobs.
No, it's it's not that it's it's it's that fire. I don't know. I wasn't blaming any one of them
I just thought I was unlucky. They tried it was a good try
Lucky
The blobs missing
And here you are turn on your boys field
Here you are telling everyone to go to speeds channel and then he misses the kill there
I've been known to have that effect on you.
Talking out of the player, that shit happens right after that.
I gotta be so careful, you know.
One of these days I'm gonna get like an orc sending me a cease and desist letter or something.
Please do not talk about our star player.
like don't speak about us in the game that you're passing.
Just speak about the neutral creeps in the game.
Thank you.
What a crazy Eidolon.
Look at that guy.
Into the cogs as well.
Wow.
One minute for the Agus.
My spirit has the whole map to farm right now.
They can basically just go anywhere they want.
All they need to worry about is the VKB Black Hole, you know.
So Pantel has to be on the case.
He has to be careful of not wasting his hope shot.
As to save it, just for the VKB Black Hole.
You know, last game, we were in a very similar situation
when we casted with colleagues and they were able to pull off a pretty nice comeback.
What about this game? Is there a chance here for Gamer Legion?
Do you feel like it's going to be a slow burn where they don't have any avenues to come out of?
Because we were talking about it since the draft, right?
You liked Spirit a lot more because it felt so flexible.
Even if they didn't play fast, they would have this Teamfight option.
And it's coming to fruition here, you're absolutely right.
Now it feels like it's Gamer Legion who are just struggling to find anything to do on the map.
They are stuck in their corner.
No options, BKV Black Hole doesn't win you the game.
So they have to kind of just try to take a chance. They're taking a chance now, smoking out.
Maybe if they kill someone, then they might be able to get some objectives.
When Roche is not going to spawn, so they're not going to get at Roche. They can only get a kill and maybe get a tower here.
This is like a gamble, you know, like a risky gamble.
Found the mask. Alex has been so difficult for them so far, but he just BKBs Arena.
Finds Vietnam and Vietnam is dead.
Okay
Ambitious TV
I try make a go on to morale who chased us forward
He didn't under the glimmer cape still fine for now and we'll be able to walk his way back out to safety
Hanto trying to slow down the dragonite breaking him up with the silver edge cookies gonna get him out
He's spirit still on the chase a pushback of the March on shooter still should find Jamsen no way out of here
They had no opportunity to come out and black hole and they're still looking for RCY
They know ETP didn't here using the rectum to push him away and collapse will find another sphere push you out
Push you back in it's rough out there game a legion
They tried to take a chance, but the chance slacks them back in the base
Pantel is so patient. He could have hoped that they get
When he walked on the ramp, but he's just waited and waited. He knew that he needed to be sure that the enemy mark
Can't get his back home
Fade was just waiting on the other side, so they're both playing the waiting game
and obviously he's gonna benefit the support, the trading, the support for a black hole, you know, a call at any point.
And not just a black hole, but also his boots are bearing, right?
He wasn't even in position to offer that movespeed aura to his team.
So a lot of your value is just completely lost.
All this network that you have on Fade 15K, you're sad at the side
because Clockwork's there just shooting rockets from a distance with a threat of that hookshot.
They had their moments in the first day, but since losing the capacity for RCY Storm because
of Bands and whatnot, haven't really quite looked as convincing, and she was gonna try
and catch up Big Nump being body blocked by the Illusions for now.
pass from the run, could be a little escape
and the map continues being miserable for Gamer Legion
the rush is going to be the final stand, they have to fight the rush, they can't just leave the rush
they need to come out and contest the rush on, it's going to be spotting anytime in 5 seconds
I don't know, Winter. It feels like all the moves that Gamer Legion have made in the past 15-20 minutes
have not faced spirit in the slightest.
Even when you get this surprise smoke...
That does not mean you stop trying.
Yeah, I agree. I just I just struggle to imagine a fight where they can actually come out on top.
That's where I'm coming from. I'm not saying they shouldn't try. I just...
I don't know what that looks like.
Let me map it out for you.
Let's see I need to find the courtwork with the dickie of the touch stinger
Okay, and once the cork was out of picture fate is going to land the biggest black hole ever and they will win the
So the courtwork is a main target
Not the quarter not the SF not the past
Panto gets found here. He's been very careful and patient so fast. She's so patient
He's like it's plain silence. He never wants to show
I mean in a way it's kind of the same thing if you're the only black hole
you gotta make sure it's more difficult as clockwork because you kind of have to
be near you cannot be too far away you know so it can be anywhere
but it is also the added element of maybe the other heroes on Gamer Legion
body blocking for Oniguma right if they get in the way of the hookshot
trajectory so even if they don't like kill the clockwork as long as they
know where he's coming from. They could just position the idolons in that general direction as
almost like a wall, right? Your enemy is preparing a shooting and you place your defenders
in front of the goal. Exactly. It's gonna hurt someone in the face but I don't think the
idolon lives matter in the grand scheme of things. Sorry idolon activists, I know that's not
what you want to hear. Gamer Legion, if you're an NA fan, they need all the energy they can get right now.
EKB, being finished up by R.C.Y. Aghanins as well for fate, so you're really banking on this
flagpole. Oh, they're late. They are in pain. Roshan's gonna roll. Gamer Legion are not on time,
Unfortunately, the ocean will go very easily over to your Torah
Don't try to find a position
Yes, he never has a lot of damage, but I don't think he's gonna be able to channel his black hole
It really comes down to Panto right Panto whiffs up even one one second
We could see a full...
My friend has a cloudwork, a backup cloudwork.
He's not gonna wait.
He's on the black hole? Oh, he can't hook?
He can't hook.
He's gonna blink in, look for an angle, come find it.
That's the full black hole, but only the first life of Yotaro.
Faye doesn't have a second one in the tank.
You have to buy back on big none.
You've sacrificed the ages, a couple of DKBs,
and all your key cooldowns.
No more small, no more mortemers.
No more black hole.
No secret refresh rate hidden in the back pocket. Surely your Toro can just step up and keep it going.
Check.
Sure, no refresh rate.
Nope, no refresh rate, no shot.
Scared me for a moment there, brother.
Gotta be sure, you know.
That's true.
Gotta make sure.
Maybe he's hidden it in his courier or something. Maybe he's generated 5k gold out of nowhere.
Sure, that's the dream for the NA fans.
But the reality is they throw a beating into your tower spirit.
Knee this win desperately to keep themselves in a good spot for the
players. Gone are the hopes of top of the group.
Stand format has never been their friend but maybe they can still scrown
something out here. Here comes the host shot.
Pantos found his mark. No black hole no problem try for the
snowball far too late though. Fade is gonna get clipped and killed and
you snowball into the arena, you're not surviving that. Spirit wiping out three and
collapse, just taunting our CY.
He doesn't blink forward with the spear back. Really, just playing around with the Viper
and now they're looking for more. Try for the cookie back into the fountain, he'll
be fine. Nice buyback from Speed to keep his mid laner safe.
He's actually obligated to protect the kid there, but the kid can only do so much
for you on the Viper. This is not his storm. This is not a superstar performance. This is
a mid Viper who's past his prime and is being played around with honestly. They even mentioned
the aggadims compete for the Cotto. They're just kiting him around. The Collapse, he
might have gone a bit too deep finally popping the DKB. We'll get a nice glimmer cape
and a bit of healing there from the Cotto. Back to business, Yatoro. The front
Alliance now will eat a Viper Strike by Income's Collapse. Again, another arena, it's perfect.
Bossing two BKBs just for R.C. White and Jensen to chase and find nothing.
Collapse positions himself right in the middle of that wall and is able to TP back up.
Panto might be the casualty.
Though surviving nice push right on two, Gamer Legion just cannot find a thing.
It's perfect play, perfect hiding by the flock, the mars, the keeper of the light with the
agg names.
Just so annoying, you know, with no BKB, you are not getting a kill ever.
Wait, even with the BKB, they didn't get a kill either.
Yeah, I mean, this is the problem with anyone.
So much gold, so much net worth is going to get funneled into this hero, and then
If he doesn't get a big black hole, you're just wasting so much potential.
And it's also like really high risk compared to the mass.
The mass when it's playing came in, it's so much more reliable than trying to get like a big black hole.
What was the plan then with this Enigma? Just presence of the Dark Lord speed will get caught and that is a dieback on your boy.
one last chance for me to showcase his wealth. 24k gold lead. In spirit looking to finish
the job bouncing straight into big nun.
He found himself panting but okay.
Lightly off the mountain, the gorge would be thinking about the Reno, forced to blink
out.
Nice discipline there from Collapse, he knew that there was the option of an escape.
That is a dead tusk and a dead snap-fire.
There's still a bit concerned about the black hole but this is three hero show,
can just go high ground. As long as they don't die, then as long as the quad will find the
hope of the Black Hole, they should be able to siege. You know siege implies a long lasting
affair where you slowly take down a tower. That took around 3 seconds. So what should
should I say. A machine gun burst from the shadow fiend with a gatling gun.
Alright. The demolishing squad, alright.
Yeah. The battering ram in the shadow fiend.
It's like the Trojan horse if the horse had horns on it and just charged at you directly instead of pretending to be something it wasn't.
everyone knows your Toro's gonna rip you to shreds you just kind of keep them
controlled in the black hole easier said than done though as gamer legion on their
last legs just spirit playing disciplined not forcing things past
what is absolutely necessary
this is one of the best traits about spirit though even in these past few
weeks, months maybe that they've been struggling. They very rarely, especially in later game
situations, force the issue unless they know it's clean, right? They won't go up to the
high ground. I think this was in the Estini video and everything. Maybe some of the disconnect
is from them not having that same discipline in the early game. And they're just going
to get caught, hookshot out to safety, forcing the snowball in, but Big Num knows
that he can't stand and fight. Same thing for the Viper though. Hidden away because
of the Ghost Sector, but these last auto attacks are gonna come through. Nice Hurricane Pike,
all the damage gonna come raining in, but RCY will be fine for now. It's Jensen, slow down,
thinking about the BKB, thinking about the stun, trying to keep them at bay. This Dragonite
finally pops his. Found themselves the Enigma. Fade is gonna turn around the BKB. It's
only onto illusions. Fade, he has to make a decision, and the decision is to black
home nothing, Gamer Legion. They are out of options, they are out of lives, and
They are out of place to make.
Gigi is called big enough, this connects immediately.
That was not the showing that you wanted
from your NA representatives,
but Spirit will put themselves on the board
and get themselves a very important second win.
Very, very good game, you know.
From Collapse, very good game.
From Panto, the squad.
I think it's just a very, very good game,
very clean game.
Like, overall, there's some small little
police plays here and there,
but I think overall they played
almost close to protection.
They kind of couldn't really do anything because of the limitations they had with the lineup.
I think they started the game well with the bait at the top, when they baited the DK and they caused
the Cautal into a bad position and they killed him off and they also got another SF kill after that.
But I think after those two kills on the Cautal and SF, they couldn't really do much, you know?
They were just kind of stuck in a situation where they had three heroes that needed to farm a lot.
And the moment Miles came into the game, he has his dagger, he's running around, setting up kills left and right.
They couldn't really compete with that because Anima needs to farm.
When he got dagger, he still needs to farm because he needs PKB as well.
DK obviously needs to farm, Miphan needs to farm,
and the supports could only play amongst themselves, the Tarzan snack.
But it got to a point where they couldn't really do much anymore,
and the game just kind of felt like...
It hit a point where they couldn't make moves and the calls needed to farm,
so Spirit were just taking everything they went for.
They took the rush, they took the towers, they took the map, they took Tormenter,
and there was that fight at the 20-minute mark where...
Gamer Legion thought Spirit were going for the Tormenter, but instead they spoke into the jungle and they killed all of them.
That was happy to meet the play of the game.
That was really really smart there from Spirit, showcasing their peak decision-making that has brought this team 2 TI wins.
It's been a while since then to be fair and some name changes lull sitting this one out.
But still, I think very promising for fans of Team Spirit, they are looking to turn around their group stage games.
But we're not done. We still got so many more best of ones.
Really a lot of best of ones.
And coming up next, this is one you will not want to miss.
It's XG vs Fanfavorites OG.
Some might consider this the main attraction, at least in the past few games, but we have
We've had our fair share of fun here on Blast Peastream, of the Blast Slam Malta.
Oops, H. And honestly, I've been a bit bitter, or a winter, I've been a bit jealous.
How could they keep us away from OG?
There's Southeast Asia right there, you gotta put the Southeast Asian boys on that team.
They've been doing so damn well.
I wanna feel that Southeast Asia pride, and finally, we get to do that.
A thundering first day for this squad, and only today did they drop their first
game against Heroic earlier. Don't think many people expected that. But I believe in them.
I think they're going to come back. I think it's going to be a clean sweep from here on
out. What do you think? Hashtag no buyers, of course.
You know what I always say? I want to wait for the draft.
That's true.
I'll look at the draft and then I'll tell you what I think. But based on just roster,
based on lineup, I feel like based on recent form, OG is definitely the favorite here.
They've shown that they are a team that belongs with the big boys, the way they draft, the way they play as a team.
I think they have a very unique way of enabling each other.
They don't really rely on one person.
So, like, some teams you feel like, oh, they rely on person X to win the game.
You know, they're off-lane or whatever, you know, that means they're...
But I think OG, they work together as a unit.
They rely on each other and they play as a team.
If I have to choose a star player, I will choose Yopatch.
I think Yopatch is definitely the best player on this team.
Yeah, he works very well when he's enabled and we know that if you guys are Southeast Asia fans
Or maybe even just Dota fans a couple years ago
Yopatch has always been the idol from the mid lane, Japoi working very well with Tim's back on the time in boom and
This just has sort of come out of nowhere started out as an unsigned stack team aureus
But they did so goddamn well that OG had to just snatch them up and instantly
These are some of the best results that OG has seen in a while, but the opponents XG are no snuffs either
We talked about them a bit yesterday about how this is a team with all the top tier names
But maybe just not quite up to speed yet and in the games where they struggle it's FY and nothing to say
at times lagging behind right not quite
derusted fully
only time will tell whether they're gonna improve I think they have to play a
lot of games at this level to deal us you know like playing screams with many
slightly worse opponents they're not the same you know at the end of the day you
need to go through stressful games you need to play in competent opponents to
get the rest off and finally get to the stage that you were back in your
group you know where you once were
is this not a crazy outfit from shall we did you see that normally I'm not the
person you should ask about cosmetic outfits hairstyle whatever fat you have
you know I'm not the person that you should be asking no I'm saying this
man looks insane like like soup like he's got the hair color match of the
jacket going crazy hopefully the drops that he puts out as dazzling
Yeah, just wait till you see issues.
I'm sure they'll patch.
Yeah, he's got it all the way down.
Okay.
Well, one thing about Shao-Ae that you pointed out,
he really prioritizes these drafts that work together
and enable each other, right?
You're never going to see a Shao-Ae draft
that kind of pigeonholes itself into,
okay, all we need to do is win the lanes
and we play timing.
There's a very heavy emphasis on this teamfighting
And that's always been a Chinese Dota 2 style.
I think they also added a little bit more emphasis on lanes.
Usually Chinese teams, they have this stigma around them.
They always draft teamfights, they don't care about the lanes,
they don't care about the early game,
they care about teamfights and late game.
That's why they always lose out when the meta is fast paced.
Like right now.
But actually, definitely, they've already shown that they could adapt.
They could make certain changes to not only focus on the teamfights,
but they also kind of want to give themselves a good chance in the early to begin, especially the laning.
I think actually it's one of the better iterations of Chinese teams when it comes to laning.
I think they are definitely one of the strongest ones, or if not the strongest laning team in China.
I think most people will argue that laning or not laning,
XG are probably the best team in China by a significant margin.
I don't think there are other rosters that really hold the 10th.
Maybe people say the new VG gaming of the sea
Okay, this is a very very nice response. I love this response
You need to eliminate the flex right away I dare you send the slaughter made I dare you
This is the queen of pain sending a message right now
what's the idea here though because
Slava is the flex potential. Queen of pain doesn't. So now that you picked the Slava,
would you respond to the Queen of Pain? No, no. Hear me out. Let me pick. So now you picked the Queen
of Pain. Can't XG just pick something to counter the Queen of Pain and put the Slava in the offlane?
Yeah, they can. But you need to figure it out because they're going to ban one of it.
And normally against Crop, I would say that Crop generally lanes video games.
Except Husker. Husker is the only one that can actually, I think, win.
So I think they only need, if I have to ban one, I only need to ban Hasuka.
That's a tricky thing right, when, you ask yourself this question, when's the last time
you see nothing to say play Hasuka?
Yeah he's not a very good Hasuka player I know, so they might risk it you know, but
I think on, on paper, they're just based off strategy you should ban Hasuka next.
They ban Huskar and they should pick, maybe they will pick Skyrath, I think Skyrath is
kind of also a good counter to QWAP so you kind of eliminate it and you kind of also
need a pause for right, so you pick the Sky as a ban in a way because you only have one
ban here.
I can see that.
So I would actually just ban Huskar and pick Skyrath here, but I don't know if that's
going to be OG's ban, maybe they're going to be open to pick another QWAP, except
this second pick. 9 pick call, 13 pick call, which works really well. Something like a
badder is also really nice into Starter. Those are definitely like options that you
could consider on call picks. But otherwise, you just pick a sub here.
It banned the logo. The XG has been liking a lot.
It's the first 5 logo. I mean, it's a Dispel. It's a Dispel and it's called
So I think it makes sense also
But I would I prefer to plan the huska, but maybe you're also right on the fact that nothing to say doesn't want to play huska
He doesn't like to play huska and he's not good with huska
I'm fine the last time he's actually busted this one out the huska you mean yeah the earliest that we've seen
Nothing to say they have got
What the fuck?
Ops!
So what does that tell us?
They still want to arrange?
They want to accept next?
Or maybe that...
I don't know if that's a world where the corp is a carry.
It used to be a thing.
Yeah?
If any team is going to do it, it might just be OG, right?
They have a lot of tricks up their sleeves.
I think they are by far the most entertaining team at getting first blood.
If you watch their games, they have a lot of very ingenious ways of getting first blood.
that's a Southeast Asia thing I learned recently because in Southeast Asia immortal pubs you are
expected to buy a smoke at the start of the game like you are expected to just kind of press smoke
and run out and position yourself around the map but I found in the few times that I played in
Western Europe I pressed smoke everybody just walks over to their lanes and just wants to block
Well, anyway, nobody wants to take a level 1 fight.
No one wants that randomness to happen.
Of course, it's a small sample size, so maybe I'm scooting like that.
Make sense that OG would be so good at those maneuvers.
Snap?
Okay.
The clock counter.
And snap plus Slotter, very, very good lane.
Shredder and Slotter, physical damage.
That's very nice.
slowly slowly starting to see snap coming back
I think a lot of people going back to snap and hold wing I think those are the two
I think older position four heroes like the previous patch pause force yeah coming back
yeah destructors lala is also one of my favorites why are we
why are we why are we seeing snap and like good wing come back though like are the other
Pulse Force just know that some of them got nerfed. Some of the Pulse Force got nerfed and then maybe people are starting to realise the newer Pulse Force are actually not as good or not as reliable as some of the older ones.
And the older nerfs maybe, they also feel like it's actually not as good as the old ones.
And finally, the Sky Image makes an appearance with the X.
This is a promise of death for me in the lane and in the game with Axe, lane is absolutely
devastating.
In a Disruptor, you just want to get out of this lane, I think they have to pick Abaddon
right here to save the lane.
If they don't pick Abaddon, the Disruptor can't play this game.
They need Abaddon.
I mean, Cleanse is kind of for yourself, you don't really help the Disruptor.
I think Abaddon is a very good pick here for XG.
It dispels the Cork.
Look at the dreamer, he can destroy himself from the back of his head, but screw you after you're on your own.
This just tells me extreme gaming are going to be looking to play the pick-off game.
Right, he can very much do that.
Yeah, clean Slut, even sieging is very strong, you can kill buildings.
Even the teamfight, you think that clean and Slut cannot teamfight,
but actually they can, with the agg names and shard and with the minus armor from Slut,
They actually do a lot of damage. There's so much physical damage here.
Shredder, corrosive haste, and the Klingz.
It's actually insane, you know. Like, if you don't have a Ghost Scepter on Skyraught this game,
you're just gonna disappear in the teamfights.
I'm also saying, I feel like if Axe goes for Blink Blade Mail, the Klingz can just kill himself.
It's what I'm concerned about. That's why I think, like, it might not be that easy for Extreme Gaming to take the teamfights.
Actually not that bad for the Clinkz, you know, he's the blademail, because you tend to do damage sometimes with your Skyrathans, and you are tanky with your Dark Pack,
so you don't really die to the blademail that easy. I mean, of course if you include the Skyraff with Mystic Fessure, he's gonna die.
But Clinkz is not an easy target to kill with the blademail X, I think it's quite deceptively tanky.
I'm just kind of thinking, Blade Mail and then you add the damage of Skywrap, Ancient Seal plus Queen of Pain, everything like, I just don't see the save right?
I think he's going to buy Crimson this game, but maybe Blade Mail is, I don't know, I think Crimson is more stable for the game.
Exactly need damage, because you think about X right? Why are you getting Blade Mail for the damage?
But you already have the Skywrap, so why are you still getting Blade Mail? So you could look at it from this angle.
You already have enough damage so you need to keep each other alive and enable each other so you get a Crimson.
Niko's been very...
I wanna say...
High variety with his axe built, we've seen him go for Lakshri, we've seen him go Helmdom, we've seen him go Crimson.
No, not this game. I feel like all the other builds are not very good.
Crimson is too good of an item not to have.
It's Slardar and Klingz.
It's a criminal offense if you don't buy Crimson this game.
As for XG, so they need to pick, I think we're most likely going to see a mid hero, I think
Stala is not going to go mid against Queen of Pain.
So what is nothing to say going to play here, some sniper or something to abuse the physical
damage or he's just going to pick like a spirit hero to move, you know, or some
primal beast.
I know he loves primal beast, but it's terrible against the lane of court.
gets banned though. That's the concoct. Concoct is much better. It's still like a lot of
progress. In fact overall it's much more stable in the lane and gives you another form of catch
so it's not just the glimpse and you have teamfight with the boat and the
the Mortimer skills so I think this is a very nice pick to round everything up.
It gives them just that additional catch that they need to lock down some of these
stickier targets. Nice well-rounded draft here for XG, what do OG respond with?
Probably a carry pick that they need?
They need a Manta hero. Maybe TB? Like a high armor hero?
Maybe it will work here.
I feel it's a bit off-tempo though. You know TB?
Morphling? But I know Natsumi is not so big on the Morphling.
Morphling TB are the ones that come to mind because they are high armor heroes against Klings and Sanna.
But they are not Natsumi type of heroes.
but his type of heroes, the fighting kind, they don't really feel good here.
Why don't you do like TA perhaps?
Uh, you can. I don't think it's that great. It's okay.
It's going down the list of heroes Natsumi has played recently.
Alright, it's not an easy pick. He probably has to play something out of comfort,
but for the draft, you know, or he plays something that's comfortable for him,
but it might not be the best for the draft, you know.
This is a decision he has to make here.
Can you do Gyro or Moetha perhaps?
Okay, I don't think he likes to play the hero. You already have the clockwork as a bodyguard
I mean you could you know, but it's not his type of hero. He's out of his comfort zone
Jiro is his type of hero, but Jiro dies easy to clean Senstana
Not the best mentor hero
True.
I think he will be my NRC.
Naga Siren?
Oh, he chooses Beast.
This is his type of hero.
Beast carry.
It's very timing based, very early game centric.
But if the game doesn't finish early,
Corp is the only super...
Wait, what?
It's a Corp carry.
Yeah.
They're going to pick the Beastmaster in the mid lane to try and go up against nothing to say he's conquer.
And they're putting Natsumi in the lane that is...
But Konka lins well into base, so when I seen this matchup recently, I feel like Konka wins the lane.
Yeah? Well, as we know from our past few games, we know nothing about the mid lane matchups because every time we make a prediction, we're just painfully wrong.
It's okay, you can just play on me. It's me, you know.
No, no, no, no, no. We're team. We're team. Winter, we're team. We're together on this.
We are so painfully wrong.
I think where I'm coming from though winter is I feel like this should mean something right even though it wasn't the case in the previous games
When a team decides to pick okay, I want Beastmaster into conquer. That's what your part is saying, right?
I want that Beastmaster
It makes me feel like you know what I was actually saying
You know what he's actually saying he needs to play a carry because he's carry wants to play Queen of Pain
That's actually the reason he has to play beast meat if you need to play a carry me this sniper
Beastmaster, Shadowfiend was banned, then you have the Invoker type of heroes, that's all, that's not very good this game, you know, so he actually only has Beast.
I think that is the reason why he had to play Beast this game, not because he thinks that he can play against the Conqueror.
Okay, so you think he doesn't have any other options for Mid later?
Yeah, because he's carry, because he's carry wants to play Crop, they're supposed to pick a carry, and the carry goes, I don't have any good heroes, I don't want to play TB, I don't want to play Malfink, because I suck at those heroes, so I'm going to take the Crop.
The game is on you, your patch, you carry the game.
Well, you did say at the start,
if you had to pick a star player,
as much as OG are good at enabling one another,
it's Mr. Yoparch, Japoi, my idol.
Top seed right now, OG, I think,
a sight for sore eyes for many OG fans.
It's been so long, they were trouncing around EU,
Western Europe, trying to assemble a roster
that can match up to the hype
that their fan base has of them.
didn't really work out so where did it lead them back to the Philippines back to
Japoi
oh gee they're looking spectacular right now I think just kind of getting caught
off guard by heroic earlier today this is the first time I've seen this smoke
right away from the lanes from the game oh was it a late smoke or maybe
it was a 50 second smoke one minute smoke and still some duration they
They usually smoke around 45-40 to get first birds, you know, they just don't smoke at all and they smoke after lanes begin.
There's something a little bit different here. Maybe it's to outer XG's early movement because they know XG will smoke early so they're trying to sort of meet them there.
That's my guess.
Because they feel that they're stronger at level 1.
Did you see that movement? Nothing to say was baiting the placement of a ward that left a hole in his inventory. Not sure whether OG will fall for it.
3 runs for OG.
Nice.
No late smoke needed.
That happened because Exercise decides to go back and block the camps
because he is leaning into Queen of Pain.
Yeah, that's...
That's a little bit crazy.
So, we were joking about Yopaj in the mid lane
and this Beastmaster how Natsumi wants to play Queen of Pain, Yada Yada,
all very unimportant stuff.
What the people want to know, Winter,
It's who has the better lane, who has the better draw.
XG has the better draw, I don't think OG rounded up their draw for the benefit of the strategy.
They rounded up the B-Suster to make their players comfortable.
And it's comfort not king. No, not every time.
What makes it different this time?
You need to have a strategy that you can win before you think about comfort.
My priorities are different.
If you can't win with the strategy, it doesn't matter if you're comfortable.
Let's try and be a bit understanding here.
What do you think is the strategy with this Queen of Pain carry and Beastmaster mid?
What's the tempo that they want to play at?
They want to enforce the Queen of Pain in Slot-up matchup,
and Natsumi didn't really have a hero that he wanted to play,
so he just took the Crop, and they have to pick a mid hero that's a carry.
So that leaves Beastmaster in the pool, which is viable in this game.
Isn't it kind of nice though for Natsumi?
You talk about the Queen of Pain in Slot-up matchup.
I feel like XSS, but it's not ideal hero on the carry role at the moment.
I think he's too numb here before, he's like he was really strong, it's viable, but now...
I don't think so, you need to snowball so hard for this to work.
The way the lane is going for XSS is looking pretty difficult.
It's being clicked down, blood grenades out, new triples are denied, FY can't find him,
auto attack wind up way too slow, and scammer Natsumi get it done.
Talk about the Queen of Pain using the snowball well, that's a good start.
That's the lane matchup here.
They got level 2 first because of the early pressure.
You need the repouncing and getting the kill there.
Very, very good play, what would you do?
That's a little bait and switch there from Yoparch.
Forces the Torrent out for nothing to say, just...
Thinking about stepping past him, get that water room.
Yoparch will have his own to claim up top.
This Slardar snap violin is supposed to be scary but when you're fighting up into a
thoughtwork with such a thick HP and armor pool, it's very difficult to put in any lasting damage.
Yeah, the Queen's gonna stand there and we're talking a lot of the harass.
That's a clean up here.
It's not fair, you know.
Yeah, rest in P-Sex Nova.
We're gonna try TP out.
Can I stay?
Our cane boat will still find him.
Oh no.
That's not good.
Oh god no.
Mr. Xtreme Nova there going to have an Xtreme Walk of Shame.
Yeah this is why I said that he's gonna suffer a lot when they have a pick together.
Yeah, saying that they have to pick a pattern to enable the disruptors, but they chose the pick.
Blood grenade killed, therefore, FY, trying to contest for the Lotus with low resources,
never gonna pan out for you nicely, but at least the Cloudwork comes back into the lane fully
fledged, ready to fight.
The thing with this disruptor against this X Sky lane, right, you have to sometimes just
know that you need to die in the lane. You cannot just try to TP out. You have to just die and then TP back to lane with full resources.
I think even if he manages to TP out there, I can say he didn't die. He would be still really bad for the planks.
Yeah?
Because I think the idea is that you want to minimise the amount of time that your planks is left alone.
Right? Because if he's left alone, you can run him down. But as long as you're there, even if you're dying,
dying. If you keep them from spamming out army, he can still get his levels, still get
his farm, and maybe later on the line he can recover.
He'll continue to be difficult here, the sky and the axe. A combination that many of the
Southeast Asian teams have used to perfection, one that they're absurdly comfortable with.
And you can kinda see why the amount of pressure is ridiculous.
get ganking, 4 minutes, skam is here, this is bad
skam has arrived and he's ready to party, army will get caught out in the cogs
press to click them down, the battle hunger will be dispelled by him killing the cogs though
he's gonna stand around, they're gonna clear the creeps, they're gonna dive him in the tower
I think they don't have a choice, where can army really go, here comes the TP
Nice field there. Trying to get the armor of Niko low and right click him down.
You still have a glimpse, bring him back into the tower. No more creeps, no more eggs.
Hottish there by extreme gaming. Nice response from Fy.
Very, very important TP to kind of salvage the lane at top, you know.
If the Klink dies there, I think he's gonna be really, really ugly for them.
So good move by XG.
As long as they don't lose the lanes, huh?
their heroes I think will be way more effective in the mid game
they have very very good teamfight with the boat
the disrupter with the kisses from Mortimer
so if they don't get a run down
I feel like the mid game is gonna be
actually it's mid game to win
yeah and the Slutters don't even doing that bad right
matching CS with the Queen of Pain
I'm sure he's taking a lot of harass but he's fine
that is really really great
he's doing well
This thing is supposed to be a lot worse for this Lada.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're gonna TP again, look to Polish Niko, they know he feels strong up here.
That's precisely why they know they can bring him down.
You need a bit more slow, the face boots, letting him escape and XG will not be able
to get their hands on that pesky off laner.
Oh, Korea city here, Tims.
Gonna run away before he can get found by nothing to say.
couple of centuries just to block the camps. I think the Korea might spot this TPR. I'm not too sure.
He's coming down here to try and stop XSS, but I think he can just walk this one off.
He's just gonna build the creep wave up. There's no more mana available on Tim's.
This is so annoying. Not much you can do, just TPing back to the fountain for the reset and
come back to the lane for the wave to push. Very nicely done from the Slardar. For all you
struggling off lane players, you can note that one down as to what you can do if you are not
getting a lot of support in the lane.
Not a lot of action in this early stage, they tried to make a movement towards the top lane,
didn't work out and now scam.
They're trying to use his body to get in the way for the wisdom shrine.
Nice cogs, not to be big sonic wave after two, they'll punish FY and look for XSS as
well.
combination is there nothing to say has come in looking for the swing they still have a glimpse if needed
Will finish off Natsumi and it cost them their life
So Shrine of Wisdom taken by that Queen of Pain and Scam will sacrifice himself to the tower to get that reset
That is not exactly worth it for
Too many heroes die in there
I actually reacted perfectly they brought the numbers they realized they have to bring four heroes to defend it and
And yeah, they made the most of that situation
From these rotations nothing to say getting himself a nice bounty
Part of the network right along the Beastmaster who is farming up the storm
But maybe this is why you didn't really like the Beastmaster so much. He can't really get active
He just wants to chill in his jungle and farm
It's not so mean it's gonna be making these moves
Your carry doesn't want to be a carry that you have to be a carry
well right now your carry wants to get you carry wants to kill army they will
be successful in doing so first chop of the game Nico holds his armor with blood
I don't know whether things as blood but you get the idea
I thought you told me daughter was not based on logic yeah which really sucks
for you. Okay well good thing I mean they are still finding opportunities on the
map. I really feel like they have to dodge nothing to say though he feels like
such a big problem for them. Every time he shows up I feel like at least two
heroes are gonna die if they're fighting.
That's Kunkka for you. Kunkka is one of the strongest heroes in the audience.
With X, both. He's a strong laner, he's a strong team fighter. The only
problem with the hearing he falls off hard yeah you got that game insurance right on the clings
yeah you have things that's uh that it's more than enough you look at the disruptor and snap
they're kind of really good thank you okay they're out of the games and whatever you feel
come on they're like step by the way though so would you say that kanka is kind of almost
like their bandaid to make sure they don't lose out too hard in the early game
I guess you can say that he's the person that will hold the game down for the things to come and he's the fattest hero in the game right now.
So he's doing really well against the beast. As I expected, you know, Kunkka against beast is a very very good for Kunkka.
Your part still has a long way to go to finish his ad games.
Well I guess it's fine right? I mean, OG, none of their heroes are really suffering.
Natsumi is not farming up insanely on the quad, but I guess when you pick a carry quad
you're not looking to just AFK farm net worth anyway. No, you're not.
Oh the boat coming out.
Nothing to say, just putting some harass damage onto Natsumi, forcing the Queen of Pain out of the lane.
They have to rune on your part, so he's going to be able to dictate a little bit of pressure here
on towards the mid lane.
Actually, if they don't bring the phone call over, they're not going to be able to defend this there.
Instead, they're trying to kill the Queen of Pain and the bot lane.
Trying to go for a trade here.
I think this actually favors OG mode. OG gets the mid tower.
The mid tower is more variable than this safe lane kill one.
And they're not even bringing it that successfully right?
Natsumi's pulled the wave all the way past the tier one.
So that Siege group is going to die, scared me even showing up just to scare them away.
You kind of mess up in a way because I know it's not a big deal because obviously just
now nothing to say ran into not to me use the full combo and scared the queen of
pain off right but I kind of feel like if you didn't waste the ultimate there if
the skyref mage or even scam show in lane you at least get a kill for your
troubles now you don't have the ultimate so the support can position a lot
more aggressively and extreme gaming don't get what they came for so the
trade let's have a trade more of a gift really
I mean, I don't know. I saw, I saw him being tossed up to the sky. My first thought is
rolls on a podium.
They're spinning those tracks.
Get the groupies around him, you know, they don't dance.
Did you see that animation video for when he was picked?
I don't know what's going on, but he's dancing with some frogs.
It's kind of high.
Okay, so are you expecting action to kick off when Yoparch gets his agonies or do you
think they still wait for the blame for a few more items?
No, they might look for Rosh. I think they need the Blink. Blink, Agonyms, and even BKB.
He has 3 items, because he could try to get Rosh when he has Agonyms.
But it's gonna be tricky, you know, against a Conqueror. If you get caught, you're gonna die.
Yeah.
Have to be careful with XG's lineup.
The big bad Conqueror could spoil your plans.
the speaker is putting a plan you said it was criminal for the ex to not get a
crimson guard this game at least for now he's a dirty dirty boy as he's gone
for blade mail looking into the blink
and let's see I think in terms of team fight they're gonna be lacking a lot
if he doesn't build crimson I'm sure he's gonna still buy it so I might not
be able to weather the sequencing of items would hurt you know his team
you'll see. I think without Cremes, you actually just die so quickly on your subs.
We're gonna start that and clean this.
XG evacuating a rather forcing OG to evacuate from this area. I'm not sure whether it was
a smoke that was seen doesn't seem like it because there's no OG vision. They've
just decided to abandon this tier one. So thinking, okay, we don't really gain
anything from contesting anyway. Let's just back up, let's just keep farming
and avoid giving over unnecessary kills and look at how aggressively scam is farming
That's how you know OGR aware that the team is on the other side of the map
He's gonna get his level six, but he will get killed off. So scam, forcing a couple of TP's back to the mid
This is not so bad for a post-5 plopper
And a bolt as well he baited, sort of baited a bolt out so that's base for his team
And Niko is definitely gonna feel a lot more comfortable, but right now he knows that something might
They might be coming towards his lane, Dishuffler is trying to set up a gank on him, so he backs off, and OG needs to play the way they need to, in the form.
So they're not ex-LK nevermind, they want to fight with the axe, right away.
They were thinking of the XG support of trying to find a kill on the Niko, but they realized that the clockwork and Skyrath have been off the map for a bit too long.
Going for a big wrap around here. XG, no way they're going to expect this. They're still trying to look for Niko around this tree line.
May might just get caught showing on the way if that's not a good sign. Here comes the clockwork.
I'm finding with the dust that he's not much of a mutt as well
Both teams just swinging and completely whipping they try to TP out
Get the range for the call and it'll just be a support who gets killed off scam
Try to throw out the hookshot couldn't find FY an army will get away with his life and a shrine of wisdom stolen away
Hashtag worth
Hashtag worth indeed
XNoma, thank you for your sacrifice.
Bro that wasn't even XG outmaneuvering OG, that was just like a little bit of a fumble
on both sides.
Yeah for sure, the dust not landing, the Clawed Earth somehow using Rocket first to
kind of, I don't know why did he rocket so early you know, and he couldn't get the
hook off because he was so far away and then they just missed the initiation because
the Clawed Earth rocket and it gave them away.
I don't know that was so strange.
And this is a team we usually talk about having really good synergy in these teamfights with one another.
This game is going to get caught coming through the swing gates, shredded into oblivion, first few desu charges for the Klinks.
XSS and him already pairing up to try and find these pick offs on the map. This can get scary real quick.
If they can find a couple more of those they can just do rush, you know. It's going to be a race to who can actually get their rush right now.
It's the Slava and Klink's going to get it, or the peace on stuff it acts is going to get it, you know.
This is going to be a very very crucial play.
Team is already trying to keep tabs on the Roshan.
They're trying to set up.
He actually might just die here.
And he's under vision.
Snovas is in this. All alone.
It's just him and Niko.
They could get caught by a two-man stat.
This could be scary.
FY, around the corner, going to try and bait.
Not sure what FY was thinking of doing there.
Maybe trying to bring Niko into a compromising position.
The axe looks like he will go down.
I thought X Nova was gonna try and set up for a two-man static storm of some sort, but they lose FY for the axe
I guess there's no fight to bait there
No, like he would actually kill the axe
Just follows the X
I thought it was gonna be a static storm of the two and then you multi most cases
And that was that was what I thought they were going to do. I don't know if they needed to be
Anyway, they killed the X
So they got what they want they just needed to sacrifice FY
And now, Roshan is still alive, so both teams are still not exactly commenting to it.
And actually, at least they have a ward already set up around the area.
So it's going to be easy for them to react towards Roshan and Ten from the Beastmaster,
you know.
And both sides are just very, very careful, look at them, they're playing on the edges
of their territory, they're trying to look for an easy kill onto Roshan.
OG is going to smoke again.
We're gonna try to get a pick hoping to get rush after this.
As getting a bit uncomfortable because army's been off the map, we haven't been able to
find this Klingsen hot-minute.
He's been farming up a storm, you know you might get to a late game scenario where
he's the king along with the Slardar.
I'm not gonna find anything here.
There's a lot of things to find for this fight.
I mean they're just trying to wrestle control of the top area, so they came
top with two moves in the last couple of minutes. That's all about the Roshan. XG is not exactly
too worried because they have a ward out there and the radian lineup doesn't really kill
Rosh that fast even though they can but it takes a long time.
And then if you get spotted in there like you were mentioning the kanka could destroy
you with his ultimate now with the axe boost as well.
Very very smart play by XG they're not really rushing into things they just know
that they can, how much they can play, you know, outside of that, until OG finally commits
for some roaches.
Looking at the mid tier 1 tower, to find you, get it done.
If they casual, they should be able to get a roach for themselves soon, you know,
if they get any random kill on the map.
It looks like a big one here coming up, you know, if they can actually find a beast.
Oh, he's under a ward.
This is huge.
Skyraps in his way though.
This is not the hero they want us to get but yeah sure they'll take it
Yeah, he's gone. This game gets solo kill
Yeah, I'm is just there for damage, right?
Thanks, it's the oklings
Fortunately for OG fans clings is in fact still clings bad news more at five
Thank you for the information, right?
Yeah, no, I got you.
I'm just echoing the valuable wisdom you just dropped on this class, as per usual.
All I'm trying to say is, despite all the nerfs the hero has received,
the hero still destroys supports when he finds them alone.
Of course.
And I think, even without that, I love that he pointed it out,
because with this Lada, he's now also their late game insurance.
OG, trying for a third smoke.
perhaps third time is the charm here
you need to try and establish control in this area because Zorbo's time for the tourney
Roshan? Are they doing Roshan? Wow
Roshan? XG do you know? Are you gonna find out?
XG thinks it's a wraparound they're scanning behind themselves
oh this is a really good apology very important
because it took so long for them to actually do it you know so
it was actually risky actually but because it's so close to commander time
XG they were preparing for a Tormentor instead of Roshan, they caught them on blood.
And the ward there kinda also like...
Jebetter them?
Jebetter them because they used the smoke to go in Roshan, then XG thought that no more this in Roshan.
That was a very smart play there by OG.
But does that mean that now XG get a free Tormentor because your Beastmaster is in no position?
Yeah, I guess so, yeah. That's the trade.
And my guess is that it's a it's a no-k trade for OG like you're not sad about it
You're not even said if you actually I think it's it's fine. Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at like I
Don't really think this
Support is like some tiny getting in charge. I really should be sad
What's that fire getting shot? It's okay for you. That's bastard. Yeah, you probably prefer it
XSS is going to show in the lane. Niko is around the area but...
They have to go back. They don't need to play around the top area anymore.
Rush is down, Tom and Teh is down. Time to switch sides and maybe get Natsumi.
Natsumi has gone down to the bottom side.
And he'll be a target here.
He is definitely not looking like a carry right now. Dagon and Ghost Scepter.
I mean right now you know in a funny way I might be coping there but it almost seems
like as usual no OG they see the draft of XG and XG are like look we're gonna catch
you and we're gonna burst you sorry in the duration of a start with physical damage
OG are saying, look, that's what I'm saying, he is thinking, I'm going to catch you with
a hookshot or a stun from my axe and I'm going to blow you up before you blow me up.
That's the plan.
Dude, I mean, look at the way that everyone on OG is itemizing.
They are playing purely for this kickoff game.
The blink dagger and the blade mail on the axe, the spells from the Skywraff,
the upgraded dagger for the quark, if this doesn't tell you I want to blow someone
not before they get the chance to take the fight, I don't know what does.
And that seems to be how OG want to try and operate.
It's not going to be about these teamfights, not going to be about this aura, it's not
even going to be about these objectives, they got the Beastmaster to cover that.
Not to me saying, I'm not going to let you even go in this, you're going to die
to my Dagon Sonic wave before anything happens.
I'm telling you they're not going to die because they have Coco's rum.
Indeed.
It's gonna take a while for them to farm double BKB on Slutter and the Klings.
I think maybe the conkla should also get one.
I don't know if it's possible to get one.
He's going for a glimmer cape right now, which is kind of a pretty hype value item.
I still remember when glimmer cape was so broken, even calls were building it randomly.
Yeah, it's cause of the low speed. You used to get about 40 low speed during a glimmer, and now it's 20.
They nerfed it by half.
It's still nice though.
I mean immediately like even just throwing that out the magic damage barrier that you get also feels like a counter-axe a bit of the ancient seal
Yeah, ancient seal is a big one. That is one and two combat. That's what I'm saying
I mean you're saying they won't die because of the Coco's rum
I'm saying I don't even think they'll have time to take a sip of Coco's rum
Nice call. Pull it back in
Xnova a bit slow on that unfortunately and will get caught and killed. They're looking at more here, army.
Trying to find this opportunity, hook shot in.
Scam is going to commit his body just to seal the deal onto FY who still manages to get out of the thoughts but won't get away from the raw.
Both supports from XG slain in an instant and OG now establishing themselves in the mid lane.
According to a lot of call players, when you get Xnova on your team, you don't have to worry about getting smoked gank
because he tanks all the smokegank.
I wouldn't say where I got that information from,
but I'm just letting you know.
I'm sure that's why Arme has asked him to return to his side over and over again.
Even in the lane, it's like,
oh, you know, you could pick the Abaddon to help me,
or you could just pick the Klinks and focus on your own game.
Arme is like, this is the easiest decision I've made in my life.
Bye, Ex-Nova!
I don't give a shit about you and Ex-Nova's like, yeah, you know,
It's fine. It's too nice.
Yes, obviously you carry me in the car.
Yeah, you carry me, Ken Renilla.
That was a Malaysian accent for you guys.
No, even Singaporeans have the same thing.
Why must you specify Malaysian?
Because maybe Ex Nova is Malaysian,
and I'm trying to stay true to his heritage.
PKB forced out by Niko?
Yeah, we have a bad one.
I just have to settle for the easy kill of the flake, rather Tim, sorry. Easy, hello.
It's not easy, look, they have to work for it.
It's just delayed, man. There's a difference between work and waiting.
Kind of like when you go join a corporate job and then instead of actually working half of your promotion,
you just sit there for two hours.
I have a little stress objective, right? A delayed kill and a hard kill.
So how do you differentiate a hard kill and a delayed kill?
It depends on whether you're talking to an impatient man like yourself, Winter.
Waiting is probably absurdly...
Okay, so you're saying I'm a daegon person, I guess.
Well, it doesn't sound like it.
You don't like the daegon purchase at all.
You were like, what?
I'm waiting for you, daegon boy!
I can't believe this.
Great black.
That's me there, black.
Stop creating daegon.
There you go.
I mean, after these, you're doing okay in this game so fast.
Kevin's going to get caught though.
That's the thing.
G-Pill twinging.
Big roar.
Big jump.
jump, Yopas try to chop down the fish and make himself some sashimi. Will trade very nicely.
The Beastmaster might be in trouble. I may try to get a position, try to get an angle,
Natsumi's in. Sonic wave onto the Klinks, only gets him to half HP. Where's the rest of the team?
Niko's jumped in now. Looking for the Klinks in the corner. They've surrounded the bone skeleton
man and with the mystic flair and the damage, they won't be able to kill him still.
The Coco's rum keeps him safe and he won't even die in this corner. Hiding away in the
The Invis army will turn around and strike you down with the X-Mars, pulling the X away,
army will still die.
Fyke doesn't get the deny, but OG get Team White.
Nothing to say, cleans up shop, and the captain washes them all the way.
A bit of a disconnected attempt there from OG, they go in one by one by one and
doesn't really pan out their way.
Yeah, the team fight is just not as strong.
But without the crimson, you know, this is the ice of the Invis.
You'll see here, they're going to initiate, they're running in.
Hold it how quickly they die into the right clicks.
The fuck goes down first to get a raw onto the Saga, great?
They kill him, but the moment he loses his VKB,
Hexper pulls him back and the queen comes in.
That's it, yeah.
I mean, he's just gonna die.
And Natsumi's trying to do the magic damage onto Armin,
but it barely brings him down to half HP.
And it's so awkward because Niko,
he gets Hurricane Pipe, he gets stopped in his tracks.
He uses VKB already.
I feel like they might win the fight if they actually had the crimson in, like, the corp doesn't die if that crimson, and maybe they can still win the fight after that, you know.
Yeah, Winter, maybe the corp survives long enough to daegon a second time.
Yeah, that's for sure.
I don't know, I just think the way that that fight started and the fact that OG decided to keep taking it was kind of strange.
They don't have vision in that area and their team was so far away, did you see the replay?
Yeah, they're going, yeah I know, but if they're already going in, then the beast will be KB, then they just have to follow, you know.
Because they saw an opening actually was also they were also not ready, you know
You can't only think about whether your team is ready to take that fight
You also have to consider whether the opponents are ready to take the fight
I don't know about you, but actually look pretty fine to me army dies
But that's not before claiming a whole bunch of deso charges
May nothing to say survives all the way through that fight
Okay, but you're buying a knife right? Yeah, for those pesky eblades
I'm sorry, uh, go set first.
Go set first.
They're not that rich yet.
Yeah.
They're still in poverty mode.
You know, only can afford go set first.
That's actually not true.
Poverty mode is only braces.
There was a time where supports only had braces.
This is luxury mode.
Go Scepter and he can finish his shard.
It is unreal that he's upgrading like if man, if they actually win this game,
Kerry, Queen of Pain, Rushing Dagon, Maxing Dagon is going to come to your games.
Good luck. Good luck.
Well, that's so exciting, Winter.
I can't wait.
You know what I'd argue to say, even if
They don't win this game carry queen of pain with rushing they got it's already
coming to my head.
My OG just always have so many eyes on them.
Oh scan, they know they're up there.
I know they're down there as well.
Scams on the front lines ready to intercept.
the game is going to disappear in one second if you get stunned very very tense moments
here on both sides
no part is going to get his ball ripped away from under him, he needs to get the hell out
of there
both sides know that Roshan is going to spawn so any fight would result into a Rosh
very very tense. Beastmaster has a banter to get out of the stardust, corrosive haste.
What you really need to do on OG is find that connection onto a key target, right?
Like if you get onto, let's say, stardust or planks first, they don't have any safes.
It takes a while for the conqueror to throw his boat out, so if you can find it.
They actually kind of have safes, you know. If they get a forced stardust off your
Berserkers call possibility, right?
You don't die.
BKB to catch.
BKB used.
Still the hookshot in.
Scam looking to go down here.
Pulled back in by the X marks, nowhere to run.
They even glimpse back in the eco as well.
The X is dead.
And OG not able to find the opportunity.
Had to try and escape now.
Tim's nowhere to run though.
Five X, trying to pass down.
FY is still surviving because of those greaves.
Nice dagger.
And now that Moundifier is gonna say,
You better say not to me. You don't stand a chance to build not working out your project. Again trying to go from slaughter, but he just gets pulled away as the BKB TP out the night ball.
But that's not going to get OG out of this absolutely pain.
Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I don't know.
Alright, I mean you see like they lack a lot of sustain in the team fights
If they don't get the right jump, they don't blow someone up
Which I feel I think there's no way they blow him up even if he maybe he doesn't get it there
Cause the snap was beside 1-4-star for Cookie
I think he should be able to survive there
But he has quick reactions, he reacted and he just doesn't even come close to dying
That's literally just a Force 4, by the way, Force 4, Stand Fire
With your Queen of Pain level 5, Daygoth
I'm not getting the kill and that's no way this is gonna work man I mean it's not right for Dota like they
we in this game is some max damage they got carried you know okay I don't know whether I can say nuts means
carrying much right now unfortunately I mean he's not the carry you know he's just cooking all the
like the support they don't really do much you know like every time the Sala finds anyone
like even in the teamfight they just die so quickly no aura or something
spring saasala just shredding shredding everyone
to try that from xss yeah i don't know i think the way they're playing this game would be
actually huge hit by them if the axe actually just goes crimson and type you know
like he buys auras because he doesn't need to provide damage
like your corp is buying day one, you have skyra
like why the hell you need damage on the axe
you just need to keep everyone alive with the auras
and you take a prolonged fire
because the iron here is against slala and links
if the slala jumps in and he doesn't burst a single hero with the queens
I think you're gonna be put in a very good position on the ogre side to take the subsequent initiation
but if your hero just disappears after 1 or 2 seconds
How are you supposed to take the team fight?
It almost feels like they think they can't take a prolonged fight against X-Tree.
That's kind of the read that I'm getting.
I get what you're saying with the Crimson and the Pipe, and then we follow sort of the regular, Schmeigler, everyone gets Auras.
But...
I don't know if they even win the prolonged fight because...
If there's a better chance...
Okay, I'm not saying they will win, but I'm sure they have a better chance.
Scam's going caught again!
Losing against a Disruptor feels so bad.
Neoparch will try and turn around with the raw but cannot kill XSS this time.
The game is falling apart for OG.
There's a snowball too hard for XG.
OG can't really push out the Waze.
If they can't do that, here's a slider with spring.
Hunting them down with their things, running around.
Heroes are gonna die.
They can't really shop off the Waze.
So you must be able to take a team fight.
I can understand the whole team of pain 9 pick being a good answer to the slaughter and the draft
But I feel like extreme gaming set themselves up really nicely in this game
And also I guess the slaughter played really well, right? XSS we talked about him being a shining star for extreme gaming
I don't know how he managed to wriggle his way out of that lane with so much network
He even died, didn't he die like before too late?
He died once in the lane, somehow he still manages to level 1 left in the second wave or something, and somehow he still manages to find a lot of farm and XP on the lane.
I mean, that's the thing, I don't think they even let's support the bot lane, they just couldn't find a hero for Natsumi right at the end, you know.
There were a couple of options, but I know that he's not comfortable with those heroes, so they've decided against playing those heroes.
Yeah, the crazy thing is if you ask me, Natsumi, Morph, Natsumi, TB, or Natsumi, like, Queen of Pain,
you ask me to rate the comfort level, Queen of Pain wouldn't even be on the list.
So, it's a bit strange that...
You talk about, like, Queen of Pain comfort, right? Like, how...
I get it, you know, it's quirky, it's cool, but it just...
You know what I think about Natsumi? I think he's a carry that tries very hard not to be a carry.
I can see what he likes. He likes to play, like, green ranger carry, he likes to play...
I mean, green ranger carry is great, you know.
Then he likes to play beast carry and okay, then...
He likes, like, okay, gyro is fine. I think gyro is the most normal carry hero he plays.
Apart from that, he always tries to play different things.
I think he's good at abandon.
That's why I like hero he's good at.
Yeah, but the thing is, the guy is not even bad at your traditional carries, right?
You put him on the gyro, SF, clink, he'll get the job done for you.
Are you sure?
Yeah, I'm looking at their game history, brother.
Yeah, but against who?
When they beat Gamer Legion, Yandex, Maus and Liquid.
I don't know.
I think he's not a person that likes to play that kind of game.
Instead we see the queen of pain Dagon blasting that creep down my goodness close your eyes
Still think he's coming to our games? Yes, unfortunately what are you talking about?
That's who we did it. Sorry, it must be good. Yeah, did you not watch the John Anthony Vargas stream? Are you stupid?
I'm sure people will stop doing it once they keep losing.
You underestimate the resilience of the Southeast Asian pub mind though.
So how long will you give it a month?
I don't know.
I like people who are going to be playing it for like 2-3 weeks.
Yeah I mean I said 2 weeks you know.
Yeah
Okay, so oh gee
They basically need to catch one hero press every single one of their spells on that one guy
Yeah, and hope that the cookie doesn't come or the first one doesn't come. Yeah, and hope that extreme gaming
Do not do anything
about it. Which I have also a question in my head. Is this so much of the hero? Like
the Queen of Pain hero or is it because of the way he's building the hero? Like maybe
the Queen of Pain call that something to it. It's just the way he's buying the items
that's weird. All spotted by a wall. This could be scary. XSS just waiting for his
opportunity to strike. Finding two.
After he was able to blink away, they pulled him back with a glimpse but he's still on
the outskirts of that static storm. So he was able to get out thankfully.
Yeah, no tiger in the structure so it means that we can't really follow up.
Yeah, unfortunately Exnova is busy dying and playing for the team so...
You did say he's that kind of hostile?
It's respectable and honest but I'm not trying to say that he's
Just trying to say that he has a drums and so on so he doesn't have a dagger
So it doesn't help him in this type scenario when you have a fish running at max full speed stunning here
So it'll be difficult for you to follow up
I thought the kankal was gonna axe the queen
Happens a lot on this stream unfortunately, it's hard to keep up with a speech with
You know
They're all the time in the world watching them slowly walk over on that wall. Okay, okay fine
Yeah, you have a good point to they saw them like four seconds ago
They were just like kind of sitting there to live with them. Do you want you want to go? No, I'll go
I guess I'll blink in and stun
And you have the quiet for that I thought I told you guys three seconds earlier than boy
wrong language, not my bad sorry, wrong channel you know, my bad my bad, that's that perfect
world resolution right there sorry everyone, in a perfect world it would be fine for you
I like how supportive you're being today.
Yeah, I'm trying to...
On another day you'll be giving me shit right away.
On a hard launch, I'm trying to hard launch your stand up career.
You know?
Well he works for an S&E audience.
That's fine.
There's a ton of them.
What is...
Okay. What was that?
I mean, you're trying to full permit the Thunker who's like a bajillion HP, Niko's jumping, Niko's dead, Army's fall stuffing forward because he doesn't need to get out, he just needs to kill you.
And this has not looked like the OG that we've come to know and love.
Things will get cost you. I think it's GG. I mean, I know it's GG. It's been GG for quite some time already.
And this game is just a very... I feel like it's a very strange game.
And this one I call a bit like the way they are approaching the game.
I think maybe the heroes are still in the realms of being acceptable.
So it's just the way they itemize the way they play.
Because they needed to be fast. They had to play fast pace with the Beastmaster.
But they didn't really have the Auras. And I think if they had the Auras early, they don't...
I still feel like they don't need to play anymore on the X stages.
needed him to buy a dagger with aura and they fight around the piece so that it makes the beast strong
when the beast doesn't have aura's you know and the pope also i mean when the beast doesn't have
ebg and the pope also didn't buy ebg so it's actually perfect for them to have aura's
yeah i i just kind of feel like maybe og had one of their signature unique ideas about how the
game should have been played unfortunately for them though that was not the right idea at
all to get them to success and they will take their second loss today first against Hiromuak and
now against Xtreme Gaming not really the best start to otherwise a flawless day one right and
then you come into day two you started to take these L's maybe starting to get pushed back on
some of your ideas. Bo1 you know sometimes you get a little bit carried away I mean they're
still in a pretty good position I'm sure they'll still be fine it's also important to
experiment with some of the games, like try out some of your ideas. This is an aspect of a good
team. You need to give your players a certain room to showcase their ideas, you know. Before you just
say no. You need to give them a chance.
Why the silence? You don't think I actually agree with that statement?
No, I just think, you know, you kind of got to let Natsumi make a fool of himself and then
Adam343 is gonna come in and say okay, Natsumi, you remember what happened the last time we picked the Queen of Pain and Natsumi goes, yes boss, sorry boss.
Nothing you can do but that will put extreme gaming in a pretty good spot, 4-2 now on the record and bring OG down to 4-2 as well.
So, we're moving on, more best of ones ahead of us, coming up next, we got Heroic vs Team Spirit after a short break.
I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to my room and see what I can do.
I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to my room and see what I can do.
Game 6 of Day 2's Blast Slam 6 group stage here and we have Kim Roic vs Spirit, two teams
that are trying to turn their fate around after a pretty rough start.
Kim Roic, you know, you've been following the Dota scene, I'm sure you'll know, no stranger
to the struggles that this team has faced recently once the shining stars of South
America.
People keep saying they're going to pave the way for the next South American team
or SA talent to come out.
They need to pave the way for themselves. They've been not looking the hottest.
Bringing in Theolikor, bringing in the young star Tylong.
They've had to slowly but surely stabilize some of their games.
And they started out today pretty nicely with a win over OG.
Let's see whether they can keep up that momentum.
But of course, the opponents, Winter, we saw them a bit earlier.
Team spirit.
They are also kind of looking shaky in some of the games.
Sometimes they play really well, like true collapse.
I think he's the man that they should just draft for, you know, give him his, give him his mask,
give him whatever he wants to play, and just, you know, forget about prior lines, I think Miriel too much.
I mean, they got carried away in the games where they just gave him some snipers and stuff like that.
I think he should always just play like the rotating hero.
And I said, you know, don't try to complicate things and draft for Collapse and Gatoro.
Yeah, and that's been the spirit recipe to success since the dawn of time now,
even though the components might look a little bit different.
There's no more Poshka, no more Mira, and Laos on a little bit of a break,
but we're gonna try and opt for the same strats.
I mean, they looked a bit shaky like you said against Yandex.
That was our first game of the day.
They just kind of got run over and didn't look the best.
But then at least they were able to turn things around.
I think the previous series, Gamer Legion,
just get Collapse on his mask, everything else looks fine.
Well, are you still gonna be ballsy enough to first pick that mask?
Do you think that's the winning recipe there because surely it only works against some line-ups?
Not not eight, but nine only nine. I think you can do it online
So it depends on the pick order and everything else
I think collapse needs to kind of play
Because if you see what is being picked earlier at Mars is the best one at a blind matchup
I think you got about off laners that can be picked early. That's not many you can actually do that
Probably the only one
Maybe lago lago if you play lago often you can kind of deal with most of the merchants
But that hero is probably not gonna let me let through so ideally you only have Mars
So maybe I want to go down that route again. Oh, I mean they can show if they can have some sort of other ideas, you know
I'm wondering if the lago loses value just because of how poorly it's done so far
We were kind of discussing it because I think you and I
understand why the hero has been so relevant but at the same time a bit
confused maybe people just haven't fully figured out how to play it yet.
Also how to draft with it so when you have Lago call on your game what do you
need you know do you need more stuns because the hero doesn't have catch or
do you need more just like the hard carry right because Lago is all auras and
he needs someone else to buff so you need a frontline hard carry to buff
you know a seizure hero. So those are things that teams are currently trying out and how
strong is Nago on a POS5 or POS4 that's also something that you need to figure out you know.
That's a lot of uncertainties with the hero.
Into the draft we go and, Rowe, the games that we got to watch from them, they try to build
these death ball compositions. Sometimes what, what against Greedier teams doesn't work
against any team that is going to just draft a bit more of a normal line-up.
We'll see what they're up to go for here, maybe riding that positive momentum, same for spirit.
Right, they've lost one game today, won one game today, they've got two more to go,
a win against Heroic here will make that match up against their
long lost rivals, XG, feel a bit more comfortable at least.
We had a lot to say about Heroic when they were on our stream though, we weren't really
liking what we saw in terms of some of the itemization choices of this man on your screen here?
Don't worry, it's not just you, you know.
Okay.
You see, I'm fair, you know, I don't just target one person, you see, I was targeting
Diko as I was asking.
I'm fair, you know.
I'm not just biased to the non-SEA players.
How graceful of you.
Thank you.
You're welcome, Mike.
I'm here to please everyone.
Yeah, and I'm sure everyone is nothing but pleased, Winter.
I'm so glad.
That's the biggest lie.
No, no.
I mean, for me, you know, when I'm saying I'm here
to please everyone.
Guys, oh, oh, from you.
Yeah, from me.
No, OK.
I thought you were being jelly-win for the first time
in your life, damn.
OK, that's rough.
Well, in any case, hopefully heroic and spirit
don't wind up displeasing themselves in the draft because I feel like these teams have lost games
just off of that feeling right that they've picked heroes that have put them in the corner
that's not the type of dough that we want to see we don't want to see one team without options by
the 20 minima that's not the vibes go full team fight go brawl out you know what i mean go crazy
go stupid. go shadow demon. Good.
go shadow fiend. Shadow fiend eight.
I don't know.
8 out of 9.
8 and 9. I don't know.
I mean, that's the reason why you're not doing so well, right?
Damn.
8 and 9, Shadowfiend.
I think against like lower teams,
lower caliber teams, you can maybe get away with it,
but against the better teams, it's kind of dangerous, you know.
I think I'm high, I kind of like this kind of thing.
Straight up counters.
The bat right there doesn't matter if it's support bat or combat.
My spirit has already shown that Collapse likes playing the hero.
So let's see if this details him, you know.
Okay, lane counter.
I'll pass it to you.
Oh, it's supposed to not even awake right now.
Do you see this?
It's meditating.
Bro, it's sleepy.
Do you remember the old days of like Beast Coast, you know, they'd be drafting and you just see Scofield asleep on stream in his chair like he has, he's like, whatever you pick me, I don't give a shit.
It better be me, it better be you.
Who's the most legendary sleeper in draft?
Ooh.
Ice, ice, ice.
That's true.
Shout out to my Singaporean brother.
Ha ha ha ha.
Okay, back to the draft, back to the draft.
So what are you going to follow up?
You need to ban one of the setup heroes. I think they probably should be taking up banning maybe the Mars?
I think Mars might be still at the ban.
Interesting. Beastmaster ban.
So the Shadow Demon is still an option. So even if your Abandon isn't available to a Fothic Shield the lasso off, you could also disruption save.
That could be an option for Heroic here. Although I'm not sure how much the O'Call likes that hero.
Yeah, not every position for a player likes that hero
But if he doesn't play that hero, he's gonna have to play something at a ring already
You want to have saves against bad rider, either SD or ring
But if you don't want to pick those two heroes right away, you need to pick your off laner
I will actually think that they could pick the Mars
For Whisper right away in the next pick
The boss has been looking pretty solid.
Even though it might look a little weird having a badden and a mouse, it's your two opening picks but I think it could work.
Do we no longer live in a world where a badden can be flexed?
Like is that just not a real thing anymore?
You can do it but it's not very good.
Okay, I don't think it's...
You're saying flex to offlane right?
Yeah, offlane.
You're saying flex to support right?
No, what the...
No.
What you ain't a lot dude it has a very high win rate in pubs you know so I thought you're going in that right yeah
In pubs you know what else has a high win rate in pubs queen of pain with daegon rush next week
Don't worry about it stop spreading lies Mike
Okay, what's spread some troops what do you have to say about shadow what you raise not to tell lies bro
And guys it might be new here but in Southeast Asia we call it clay mother
You can always just say your mother told you you're supposed to tell white lies.
I'm going to disgrace my mother like that.
How dare you.
Okay, so food ring.
So Spirit really likes food ring for root.
They're going back with it.
The break mechanic can be useful against a badden in certain situations to burst him.
Can I ask what the deal is with this ember?
Because in my mind, when you have an abadden and you have such a low cooldown dispel,
the chains are going to be kind of forgettable, you know?
You need someone to find the Shadow Demon.
And also I think the other reason is because I feel like they are going to put Panto on Bear either.
So your support duo is going to be good wing and bad, no initiation, no stuns right,
no proper catch, their follow up.
So Ember is perfect for that.
So this is my read right now, what Spirit is doing.
Collapse is going to be playing another hero in the last piece.
Is there like any consideration for like another mid hero like a storm or you know a fly ember?
Oh I just told you right how how can you play a storm and hold wing and bat in the runes before you
have level six. Okay okay you're talking pre-level six pre-level six. Even when you get level six
you still want to play like you're not going to get vortex at level six you have no pull.
So you need ember, ember enables the supports okay.
So ember enables hoodwing and batrider.
That's all you need to know right now Mike.
Okay.
Okay.
No, let me write that down.
I'll come apart for a while.
You better write it down.
Make a sticky note in front of your monitor so we never ask me that question ever again.
Winter's like game six.
He's feeling violent right now.
Don't mind him folks.
Bappa's getting a little cranky, you know, we got the blanket and the hot tea ready after this we'll send him straight to bed
Don't worry about it folks. I
Don't have a hot tea. I just have a
Honey a warm glass of honey. Okay. Thank you for letting us all know again
It's just the truth, you know, yeah, that's true
Okay, so Park for Tylong versus the trio
I guess you're only a bit concerned about the chains, but then you can still fish it and get out
You basically can't die to these three heroes.
Jekyll, Azzee, very very solid. I prefer what Heroic has right now.
Azzee, Jekyll, Puck and Abeddon.
The base is going to be the last pick. And here...
They actually have to pick Yatoro's hero now.
I don't have a choice. I think they pick Yatoro's hero and then the last pick, off lane.
What is Yatoro going to play against Khor Abeddon?
What's good versus call a badden?
Doom? Doomim?
You're really gonna tell me your Toro's gonna pick call Doom right now?
I'm just saying what hero is good against a badden.
Okay, one hero, let me be more specific.
This is like asking a magic eight ball a question.
What hero?
Morphling.
Okay, there you go.
Morphling is good against Puck because you become the Puck and you silence him.
Oh, you could become the badden as well, that'd be hype.
But why would you turn him to the badden?
How are you going to kill the pug if you're an abandoned?
How?
Great question.
Well that's problem.
Weaver!
Weaver?
Go on!
And then these, you throw up, they hard carry, he's all playing the semi-cost now.
Weaver is very good against pug.
We cannot phase shift away from the bugs.
And he has like no lockdown, right?
Don't you just run?
In general?
Okay, I'm trying to explain to Beaver Pig.
So it's also good against Shadow Demon because you don't care about the purge and your illusions suck
So that's why he went with the weaver
So what is Collab's gonna play so they ban on the mouse because mouse could still be a good pick for either team
It means if they ban out the mouse doesn't mean Collab is still gonna play the bet and they're gonna last pick some
Undying
Will be hyped
Let's see what they ban next
It's just weird though because you ban out the mouse you could just switch Panto to that
I really like that suggestion that you had. The Pantel bat into like the mask because Team Spirit are coming out with the 23R.
Maybe they want Doom. They want Doom on Collapse to Doom the Abandon. Maybe that's the plan right now.
Yeah actually that could be possible. Let's Doom the Abandon.
In that situation if Team Spirit pick the Doom, is that valid enough grounds to...
I don't know maybe even switch the baton to offlane and pick another carry at that point
Sure, you can try, but which one?
Then your whole draft is gonna be very slow. You have a you know, pug mid is a carry here
The baton offlane is also another carry here, and then you're picking another carry. So three core draft
Welcome to SEA Heroic
Three carry draft, you know, nobody's gonna move
Be my guest
You're welcome to do that
We'll see what they go for here.
I think Collapse is going to play Doom, and then we might see Misfur playing Kite.
The shot is very good against their heroes, the Ember especially.
So they think that this bed is still a core and like most supports.
Let's see what they are going to do.
I don't think this bed is going to be a core.
I think it's a support.
But if they do make it a call, I think they need a melee hero with the waiver.
I'm dying.
Or maybe some disruptor.
Oh my lord.
What the hell is that?
No clue.
So judging from the face of Collapse is definitely not him playing the Ricky.
Wait, maybe he's playing the Ricky.
Wait what?
Ricky Offlane?
No.
No, Ricky is the park counter.
Yeah, okay.
What the hell are they doing? Are they doing mid Ricky?
Ambulance?
Morale?
Freaking pause for Amber. What the hell is going on?
I have no idea what's going on.
I have no idea what's going on. I'm just going to say...
Heroic looks like they have the more reasonable draft.
A logical draft.
Who is playing the Riki? So it's POS4 Riki, so Collapse is still playing the Bat.
And Panto is playing POS5 Hoot Ring.
Okay, so it is POS4 Riki. So Whisper, I mean overall, I think Heroic still have a pretty good situation right?
This is an excellent Slala pick right now.
Very good against Weaver. I think Weaver you have two very bad matchups.
spaces wide and slada those are the two insane matchups I mean I think with the
the slada here it counters the weaver but the slada does not synergize well with
their other two calls I don't think slada and park of slada and a better
it's like extra amazing you know it's not the same as slada TA, slada weaver, slada SF
that kind of thing you know so I also feel like the last pick is something
just to counter the opponent but it's not exactly something that works very
with the Hero 8 lineup.
But at the same time, Team Spirit's lineup is also more about trying to counter the enemy.
And the Riki doesn't have any apparent synergy with the lineup,
and I'm also not a fan of having more than one in this hero on your team.
I'm trying to make the most of this...
I don't know, it feels a bit half-baked, right?
I don't know how much I like this Riki.
this Ricky I feel like it's such a it's such a rule classic we've seen him bust this out before
this is not new for spirit just doesn't feel like a winning strategy
is it gonna be good this game i'm not sure but Ricky with cool wings so they have some kind of
combination in this game the cloud silence into the break on hold wings so that will allow you
you to insta burst a ballad. Silence burst break. So I could see that maybe coming into
play in this game. And obviously the cloud is very good into the pub, it's very good
into the SD and TKO. It's actually a really really good refreeging now that I have a chance
to sit down and actually put my head into the draft.
What's happening someone's trying to flank them?
A meatball?
Yeah.
2026 a meatball.
What are they like?
What are they trying to stop out?
That first blood, are you happy, Jim?
Who's gonna get caught?
Easy jump down though. Nobody.
Okay, the answer is nobody.
So it's actually a position 5 as the king jungler is playing with AC.
Popsport is okay.
Jekiro's Slardar, so that's a way stronger than...
I'm a bit confused with the Collex Bat because they picked it very early
and you were talking about it being stronger on the three instead of support.
So maybe that's why they stick to it.
But surely Yuma just has the three years late of his life.
I would assume so. There's nothing a bad can do inside Balan.
So you're probably going to see bad just cutting waves and just securing his own.
But there's no way he can pressure a Balan.
I don't know if Ricky's going to change that dynamic, but I don't think so.
It's pretty good at trading with the right flakes, although you are fighting a shadow demon with the menace in it.
So once he starts to set back up on you, it could be pretty uncomfortable
This mid lane should be actually quite...
What do you think this matchup will be?
Okay for both sides. Ember is pretty good into Puck in the lane.
The slide does a lot of damage.
Low base armor.
At the same time, when you get level 6, Puck can counter the Ember too with a Qoil.
If you look at the support, so it's SD, Jack Hero for a part that gains Ricky and O-Ring.
The mid runes fights are going to be so important as well as him.
So if you compare the supports, I feel like Heroic should have the upper hand with the
SD and Jack Hero duo.
They seem to be stronger on paper.
I'm not going to mention that with the river highway, the Slada could very easily
join them if he's free.
So the importance of the runes, probably something both of these teams gonna look into, as you
want those to get active on the ember, same for the pub, kind of stunted if you don't
secure those.
Yeah, so I was saying that in a hard time.
Whisper has the priority in terms of who he wants on his lane, which support here.
He has the lane secure support in him, Jekyll.
Like I was joking about the previous time,
he's kind of on Vibe's life support, right?
Like, he's not having a great time right now
ever since they kicked his buddy's golf field.
Don't think of the car has to do everything
he can to try and impress.
Mantle, didn't run that year.
So we'll be fine fighting in this little puddle.
The Toro going for the kill onto Peer of the Caught,
step out a bit too far oh the chikiro that's not much of a lane secure is it
I was actually a very very busy spader he was fine you know like he came back
right click one extra time from your throne but then he comes back again
but a second time and he gets punished yeah I mean maybe it doesn't cost the
star too much if you can still secure the motors but still a very bad death
overall before I totally go there that was the what do you even gain
from stepping back up. It was a bit, it was a bit silly but...
It's just not respecting the fact that a viewer has a lot of damage in the lane, you know?
Yeah.
There's a lot to prove for this panel, of course.
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For Lex, we'll just get run down.
The King Jungle setting up the second one onto Rue.
Ricky can't continue to commit, and you were curious whether Rue would be able to change
change the complexion of this lane for Batrider turns out the answer is no
can't see i'm surprised you know that right there is a better i'm not sure any position for you
can actually change the fate of the game maybe a sky again like you need to be a very very strong
but definitely not a riki.
Kali Moon, full creeps against SD.
This is the best thing you can do on a brand.
You can kinda just focus on having your own farm, your own xp.
It's very very difficult to predict a battle in this lane.
So what's the game plan here for the bad rider because this feels like the type of
hero that you pick to do well in the lane and then try and snowball, maybe bully the
support, farm some stacks.
What's kind of the bad rider from behind game plan?
He's not like the guy behind, he's not going to be a head ah, ah yes equals yes against
a bad one.
I still think you go for your normal build, but Grue is gonna die here and he gets a trade.
I guess that's better for the Riki than nothing.
Yes, the trade is really good for him, even though he doesn't get any XP.
Perhaps he's pulling the wave behind so he's gonna get his own farm.
As for his item build, I think he's just going to probably be for normal boosts.
I don't know if you want to go full aura on the bat this game. It's a really good pipe game
It's also a really good
I just I'm trying to figure out why
We've only really seen the bat on the off-lane like once or twice
I think 33 picked it up in one of his games and then it's been collapsed and you mentioned it feels like a spirit specialty
What exactly does this pick do for them and why is nobody else going for it?
I think it's not easy to execute. You need to be very, very well practiced with this hero.
I need to play Bayreider effectively. You need to be a specialist. It's a specialist hero.
You need to have a lot of games. You need to understand the matchups. You need to understand
in a certain game what your build is going to be. And this is the type of game that I'm not
even sure what you're supposed to buy. Because Dagger doesn't listen to you, right?
Yeah, Dagger doesn't feel like it's going to do a lot. And Bayre doesn't really want to like
Or I think you kind of probably have to go all asses in 5 princesses after your bongo boots.
I've chased him to Yatoro, put out a bit of damage.
Not the problems of the weaver, not the most sustainable carry in the lane.
That's why he likes to lane with Trim Protector and die, something that has a heal.
6 minute rune, yeah they bring 2 supports here on spirit while the jakiro is busy trying
to dive the weaver, kj will get saved momentarily by yuma but they still should be able to finish
off the kill, shadow demon gets splattered by the blood grenade and yuma can only offer
a few love taps onto mirael though.
spirit still doing okay in this lane or in the laning stage I mean the Ricky it
hasn't really managed a salvage collapses game but if you can tag team
up with the ember in the hood we can get some of these kills
That was doing well. 38 CS, 69, and it's a bad end. 34 and 3, this is great.
And he's not even behind.
Oh, KJ. He could try for a very nice play here if he walks in at the last moment,
but there are two heroes there now, and he will be denied as to disrupt this defensively.
It's a play there from the offlane duo spirit to keep their wisdom shrine safe.
What is... what was the hoodman doing there?
What's the game plan here for the heroic side? Because I look at Spirit, their team looks very
skirmish heavy, looks fast paced, looks like they want to hit one or two items and then
run you down. What about heroic? Do you think we can fight in this early stage?
Hang on a minute. Yeah, already fighting, right?
We're gonna try on the panto. This is pretty deep into the tower though.
Big cloud, stung trees. Big bush crack.
Bush crack onto two, whisper away with the leg day, trying to outrun Yatoro.
Last few auto attacks juking around the trees. They can't find him. The shoot comes
through him. Turn back to Yatoro. But Yatoro had a big stick ready and Rue ready to assist.
Spirit will escape with all their lives, and so many rotations coming up here for Heroic,
just to barely find Panto on the back lines. Support for Core, and overall, Heroic bring
5 heroes. Well, I guess a bit more tower pressure, but it just doesn't feel very good.
Getting the towers I should be with here. That's the strength of the JQ in the
I thought that we're gonna bring numbers to at least the 10 days.
KJ, it's down your Toro and this has made everything so much sweeter.
That is actually a bit cure.
Amira just actually grabbed them away, you know.
The moment he saw like the fight looking bad and he just ran away to pick up the rune.
But I guess this grade didn't really retreat in time.
and losing the tower and losing the carry they're very very bad news and now Teoliko level 5, 3 points in the 55 he's coming to claim his second tower in the middle lane
things are looking good for Heroic right now, a lot of early game pressure and this is the benefit of having a baddened self sustainable carry here
doesn't really need too much from the supports and your supports are a lot to just run around, pressure and take towers
Typically, you pick this Weaver in the games where he is untouchable, but because you have a Slider on the other side, you're very much at risk.
Speaking of at risk though, Jekiro will get cut down, so not able to put the pressure out on the tower just yet, but you look at the net worth, Tai Lung.
On this part, he's doing everything for the team right now. The supports have been, rather, his rotations have been so high value.
It's definitely doing much, much better compared to the earlier games, like getting used to
the environment of like the most stressful, high tier teams, and then finding his place
in the games.
I mean so far, Heroic mostly participating in qualifiers, probably in their bootcamp.
Maybe now, Tylong on day 2 of Blastland 6 group stage, getting a bit more comfortable.
He'll recall though going down a third time this Chikiro has not had the time of day
Being a little bit too aggressive, you're not trying to land liquid fires on towers
This is like a very common mistake on Chikiro players that don't really play the hero enough, you know
You tend to be greedy to try to use your liquid fire on the tower a little bit too aggressively and you just die
There's always a right time to liquid fire right now KJ
He's going to get flamed down and blasted to a pulp. Nice shot there from Panto.
He's teaming up with Murrell to make things happen.
Meanwhile, you got the mid lane defender by Rue.
They're trying to drag the creep wave out so the tower will deal with the siege creep.
Rue will be successful in diverting the attention.
No more pressure there.
I mean, the supports on Heroic have not really been able to exert themselves on the map as
compared to this Ricky put-win combo, which is the crazy thing for me to even be saying.
Slather's not farming very well either.
Wait, is it even a combo right now?
Yeah just wait till you see the bush whack tricks of the trade.
It's going to go crazy brother.
Nice bush whack, sharp shooter, onto whispers, sidestep, too quick.
So able to stand his ground, Yatoro with the chase.
Like too tanky on your slardar, Yatoro's going to try and commit for it though.
Got another crush.
I want to say he should be fine.
I want to say he should be fine.
The shield at the last moment forcing the time lags.
And he not only just gave him a shield, you know, he gave him a Lotus too.
And he's still gonna die.
You're gonna be so disapointed as to like, I tip it from bot to top to shield you and
You hear Lotus and you still die after I saved you?
Gotta wrap around on Teru, they got the disruption to stop Collapse from interrupting this.
It's a very high level bad rider kill if they can find it.
Meryl thinking about helping but he has no resources and Ty Lung is dominating.
Ocito on top right now.
The young gun is getting it done for Heroic.
There were many questions asked about whether a pub star,
a kid at his age could be the X factor for this team
And at least in the opening of this game against Spirit, he's standing up tall for them.
A very good sign.
Your young player is feeling comfortable. He's feeling confident.
Especially when he's getting confident, as we know.
He's in the zone.
Especially when you're playing Puck.
And Hero is definitely doing really really well.
They got the top tower, they got the mid tower, and now Jaquir is sleeping bot today, the third tower.
And Spirit, they're gonna be kinda choked to a corner on the map in the next couple of minutes if they don't try to stop this from happening.
They need to hold this tower.
Now they bring the numbers, collapse very high level, looking for the lasso, it's just a bit from where we're all to come in.
There's the chains. Nice, nice break into the silence.
You talked about this combination and it comes to fruition.
Spirit set that up perfectly.
No way of clicking your borrow time.
Got to be more conservative when you're playing the Madden on the wave nowadays.
With the wiki being running around in this.
I think he can only play the lane when he has the sentry.
You can't really play without a sentry anymore.
They're gonna bring back up, Sada's coming through the gate, the balance is gonna TP now.
Two shrines of wisdom though.
They lost both shrines so.
Yeah great point out from our observer there.
It's great.
Still getting something out of nothing here.
I mean at the same time you know this pug is so humongous right now.
When you pick the wiki, you kinda deal with him as of right now.
Pug is still having like a very very free game.
And usually when you're playing into Riki, you kind of try to build a pike, you know, at some point to get out of the smokescreen.
I wonder if that's going to be part of his plan this game, or he's just going to buy a BKB.
You kind of have to get the BKB because at some point Riki's going to get himself a shot and then it'll be painful.
Speaking of painful though, Riki, taking a tumble in the mid lane, Thailand is still very monstrous.
my shield, my stick, he's out of there. I kind of feel like Heroic are lowkey on a
timer because even though their heroes scale very nicely, you have the end game
threat of a smoke screen with shard. You can't force staff, you can't get out.
So if you get caught in the smoke screen and you get broken, King Jungles
cannot disruption you. You cannot be forced out by your allies. There's
nothing that's gonna save him. So I don't know. We'll see for now. Tampo being turned up to 100,
Panto gets caught up, Kailang saved by the destruction Bushwak, reckoning the life of the
Papa, and he's still fine. Astrophotic Shield Yuma has his ultimate to play with as well. No more
threat of the break, he'll be okay to just stand his ground and crush your Toro. Spirit and
company trying to take this fight in an area where they just don't have the gas for it.
And not to mention that this is the power of the ballad in this solo fight.
He's just running around saving his teammates, keeping each other alive.
You don't really have enough burst at the moment from the Spirit to actually go through
the target.
Because Bear rather is kind of like, not very useful in the fight against a game, you
know, that Jakeru is trying to get liquid fire.
Alright, this is way too much, you know, like, alright.
This is a sign of an inexperienced jacquero player.
And when you see a jacquero feeding along,
and he's trying to get that extra efficiency,
you could fire shots after the fight ends,
you know, he hasn't been punished enough yet.
Well, this game will be a very harsh lesson for Mr. Theo Lekor here.
Bongo boots complete for the bat.
Now looking towards that pipe,
They'll help them out a lot against the damage that Thailand's been able to put out.
Top of the network on this part.
Zito's hungry for a kill.
And the whole squad behind him is spotted out by a ward, unfortunately.
It's kind of feeling like Spirit don't really have enough to fight right now.
They don't have a time because it's abandoned already.
Not enough to fight the bad rider's usage.
The baron then has not...
You don't have much to offer in a team fight, so the shield is the most scary thing.
And he also manifests a chain, the same chain from Amber Street.
So your only main source of damage is the nuke from the hoodwing.
And you have to burst the banner, if it doesn't happen then...
What do you do in a team fight?
If the shell demon just disrupts and stops the shot-shooter damage,
that's it, you know?
This is a 9 pick badden 2, so you came all the way through this game, you're trying to
counteract it with that ricky silence into the break combination that only your supports
have.
That's why I was saying that it's probably better to concentrate on both the back to
support the decision, you know, on the 20th of the year.
I feel like they were definitely considering it because they took so long to decide the
pick, but in the end maybe they felt like it might not be worth it, so making the
decision to keep it as a core probably having second thoughts on it right now, you know,
I don't know how the game is played out.
It's not over yet but it's definitely very difficult for a spirit to take that in fight.
Rue has a defuser blade coming in a couple of minutes, not sure if that's going to
change much or the game.
Here comes Thailand.
I just be a bit those high lung he's been pulled into the clutches and the first life will drop
heroic trying to punish not gonna work out for you this time more than enough damage to finish off
collapse try for tpr and you have something in there's the crush it's not too bad actually
for street it was so many people is down they kill the a's I mean you're behind right I think
this sort of trait is still acceptable.
The Toro is farming the top side of the map,
they're hunting him with a Slava at the moment.
He doesn't have any way of dispelling the top of his ultimate,
so he has to be very, very careful.
Slava get chased but if you run too far forward,
he just time-laps and dips out anyway.
Nice awareness there from the Toro to immediately get the hell out.
It kind of feels like you can't kill this Whisper, or rather,
you can't kill this Yatoro Weaver without the puck. You NEED the puck specifically.
If not, you get the time that's offered, so you can't do it.
The demonic cleanse is nice, although I just... I guess I'm still skeptical because I feel
like the second Riki gets the shot, it's going to be a very different look in the game.
But now he's still rushing a diffuser, though. I don't know whether I agree with that.
I am not too sure, but I do think that the shot would have more impact than the previous one.
That's what I, yeah, that's kind of where I'm at, but you don't need to complete that
item.
The priority is the shot, I mean that's the whole reason why you picked this guy.
Why you told me he's a Ricky Spanner?
At least I think so, I feel like he's got the Ricky out pretty often.
He knows something that we don't, you know, because I don't need a heal.
So I can't say why he's shooting two 3Hs and defuse the whole shot here.
I mean, I think the biggest thing of the defuse, you see, maybe it allows you to pressure the supports.
Or you can kill them maybe, the SD energy kill.
But also of that, I don't see what else the defuse energy gives you.
I just think.
Yeah, all you do is mess with them with the mana.
I think it's important, you know, SD doesn't bring up enough mana.
I mean big deal for the badden especially right no apoptic shield no fight
Adam with frequent mana issues
But despite all the action in heroics favor 7k gold lead your Toro is still keeping up
You just kind of wonder whether this is the type of game that your Toro can solo carry when you saw this weaver come out
You were saying oh, you know, he's playing more of the semi carries playing off the team
up against the Slardar at the end of the day just an eternal counter looks like
they found the catch onto the ember in the mid lane and will get blown up
very nice setup there the power of this duo SD with Jekiro
we saw Taz plus Mortimer's kiss in the previous game and this game SD and Jekiro
it's very very important to have all these things in mind you know when you're
drafting support picks. You kind of always have to consider, is it important to have like a viable
working pool? Or your supports are going to be playing, they're all going to be in the end of the game.
Gonna try to set up onto Whisper. He's in trouble. Hold into the cloud, that's big. Push you back
with the flame break as well. Whisper will get saved by the disruption though. And now Rue is
gonna go down your Toro. Still tries to clean up the kill, but the fish is free. He's
He's gone. He's got an apotic shield on out of here now trying to kill this collapse. Oh
Okay, that was really cute. That was close. That was high lungs for star
Good try that that was
Very very good at 10. That was almost
almost almost
I mean, I feel like spirit
Really really close to making the kill happen on whisper twice
and it's just heroic completely ready for that they connect so quickly see the way
that started again whisper taking a lot of damage but you see a little bit of
the issues your Toro whisper actually starts to retreat away from the weaver
which is such a heads-up play from him the fact that he blinks before your
Toro can connect with the Shikuchi as well and now Yuma has his back with
the shield look how close this one was oh just slightly off the mark you
We almost see the water touching Collapsus backside there, a bit of splash back if you will.
Spirit, they're coming for vengeance.
It's been trouble as the BKB pops it before the last over.
He's gonna get put on the high ground and I don't know about you but have you ever seen a fish on the cliff?
Me neither, he's gone. KJ might be the target, big call onto two builds.
High lung trying to turn things around.
Roger P.Roy wants to rejoin the fight. Ice path trying to look for someone but the cloud with the shot it's just doing too much work.
And Roy are having trouble maneuvering it but now Collapse being looked at.
Lack of lockdown keeping him at bay and not feel it for being dived. That's a dive at your total easy time let's out.
Spirit doing a great job poking and prodding.
Now they'll think about going back in. Collapse just covering his tracks with that fire, dissuading any further chase.
We gotta be so careful on Tylong because the smokescreen could come out of nowhere but Rue is already escaped and Heroic will not find a thing a bit hasty on the Jikiro buyback.
Honestly not sure what they were looking for as Collapse will be left behind so we gotta try and Bongo boots or I don't know maybe bump someone on the high ground. Doesn't work out though.
That was a pretty good 5-4 spirit overall.
I don't think they would have fucking so much of this.
Getting the Jaquiro toys is very nice.
I'm going to need a lot more items from here.
Actually the only one doing damage in the teamfights.
Like the one that else is actually doing everything.
Look at the damage department.
Everyone is like one team, two teams, that was a good fight.
We were the only one actually doing something in the fights.
Well, I'm gonna just come out and say I know we've already pointed at Miralli-Lok
but haven't really felt this ember so far.
Ruu able to escape, call onto Yatoro.
Has himself a glimmer and have himself a time lapse.
Will just turn around and kill the support.
Nice push-wack attempt there, Thailand bone dry on mana.
Still gonna try and jump forward with the blink,
but escape is clean, Pantel will be the target instead,
who get the bash and they'll get the kill,
the Spirit supports fall, but they save their carry.
And the Spirit is unable to take the Teamfight if Hero is ready.
They're ready for the jump if they don't get like a surprise boost, right?
I don't see how Spirit can wait the Teamfights right now.
And they need to kind of execute in such a difficult manner
to reverse the battle in the silence,
the scope screen and the sharp sugar, but at the same time, they also have to deal with the destruction
and the king junglers, I think on point where it's disruptions most of the game.
I feel like six or seven times at this point, we've just seen KJ come in with the saves, even now with the
shot on the rikki.
There's too many heroes that we need to deal with.
We need to stop the battle for taking shield as a disruption.
Those are two things that are already very problematic for the team's create side,
And at the same time, we also have a figure out how to catch the top right, he's the only hero that you can kill with the smokescreen.
If you don't have a smokescreen on pot, you're not exactly killing him, so there's a lot of things that you need to worry about for team's trade.
Very very difficult.
I think the best thing maybe they should do is they're trying to break the formation of Heroic, try to scatter them around the fights.
You make sure that their balance alone on some island, as these alone, you know, and the pug is chasing somewhere, and so on and so on and so forth, away from his key.
And then that's when maybe you can capitalize on your straight-up position and try to kill them off with a little bit of bad enemy.
But if they're together, it's going to be very, very hard.
Not a good job holding hands for now.
You're finding difficulty creating an opening.
At least the key thing is Yatoro's yet to really be caught, right?
Two deaths, six kills, 7k gold lead.
Okay, Roe.
It's not completely out of the water just yet.
I still believe in this late game shard situation.
Ooh, what?
Stopped his blade.
Whisper just crushed on the spot.
That was strange.
A bit of a whiff there.
They're still trying to get their hands on that pesky bow.
With a haste rune, they might still try and chase.
They've lost sight of him and he's out to the win.
Yeah, they should be waiting for Royce right now.
That's so weird. Whisper must have messed up.
They had to have been a misclicked.
Look at this.
Oh, I know what it was.
Ember shot.
He had a shot? Yeah, he had a shot.
I didn't even realize. I'm not gonna lie.
I was talking about this a bit earlier.
I just feel like we haven't really talked about this Ember at all in the game
and for good reason because he hasn't really done anything.
anything he's not allowed to do anything
who's been caught
god smokes green me if I can see ya
pop out get the orb get the damage
how dare you try and rob us of our shrine of wisdom
still in the proud old spirit want to fight
I don't know about this
it's a 4v5 and you're showing panto now
I guess just trying to contest the rush but
Can you really?
You have to.
So get up the roast, I'm not doing anything.
Bus coming through the scout.
That is onto you Ma, and in comes the Ember.
With his damaging Remnant.
Nice coil onto two, breaks onto Yatoro.
This is Weaver that has the high tail and run.
Thinking about turning around for a moment there.
That was Baldy's.
I'll just come back in.
It's a bit annoying while the Ember Remnant is in there but I guess Spirit have no way
of protesting this anyway.
Easy Ages for Ty Lung.
Big man from the middle.
Let's do it for the squad here for sure.
This raid needs to buy so much more time. I don't know how...
Are they gonna be able to do it? They have to find a way to, I think, cut Wraith's receiver and Ember.
Slowly just leave a little time away from the Aegis and...
Yeah, find a way back into the game.
They need to find time...
...somehow.
If they are stuck in this, they're not gonna be able to do anything.
They need to be out on the map, cutting Wraith's left and right.
This has been such a strange day for Spirit.
We've watched all three of their games. It's like, you start out, look pretty questionable, but then maybe you could make the excuse,
oh, against Yandex, they just get bowled over by the tempo. Unlucky.
Then they go, next game, 9-kick Mars, it looks amazing, collapse looks like he's in TI winning form, sets up everything for a steamer,
and then now you pick a bad, you don't pivot it, even though they counter-pick it with a badden, yes you get your farm, but then you're basically useless the whole game.
They can't really make these plays, instead it's Thailand just having the time of day.
Orbing onto your Weaver, nice smokescreen to cover him, and Yatora will get out by humours on top of him.
So they forget vision, Orchid mantard off.
Yatora will be fine with the Hurricane Pipe, but this Weaver forced to build so defensive because of it,
the foil got a crush, found morale, BKBs then needs to jump over to the Remnant, but nowhere to run.
This is gonna say, I mean this part, absolute giga chat not going for a DKB just going to
the Lincolns because he knows that Spirit just can't really fight him.
He's so absurdly strong right now.
Pro-Azma shot.
This time in the game as well, 30 minutes in, Ty Long.
I
In spirit just can't take
What's the plan
Can't wait, you know, I just keep farming. There's no other way
Then they get caught by the slaughter fucker. I can't even go for a cause because they can't kill that he was
I mean, that's why I didn't understand the riki, you know, I think they just needed to put the bat on a position for
call you know that can actually play the game
can't write a call because we've played against a bandit
I mean on the backside, Spirit have managed to keep this goat Lee at 7k
now finally starting to grow for Hero 8
that's not that big right you're still getting farm on at least the weaver
the other two calls let's just not talk about them then
maybe a Toro can pull this back from the brink
He spent most of his game running away from Hero Lake though.
Moshwax, catching Yuma.
Popping the broad time cross, they're coming back in.
They need to try and bail Yuma out of here.
Running for the hills, taking a lot of damage to BKB.
Oh, he's still popped.
Still going to die though.
That is a huge, huge kill.
Somehow he was alone there.
A little bit too cocky there.
I guess it was also a very unexpected gank, right?
That's the mid wave and the top wave.
They were so near towards the great side,
but straight decided to go.
Okay, they spoke anyway and they kinda caught him off guard.
I mean, when the game...
Toro's calling the shots now.
Yeah, when the game is going this badly for you, you have to make...
You have to make unusual plays.
You have to surprise your players.
You have to take risks, you know, to give yourself a chance to come back into the game.
There you go.
Working out now.
Toro immediately circling the bottom and mid area,
knows that that's where Hero are probably occupying,
given that the response came late.
They try and bail Yuma out.
They're poking in here.
Rue will be caught on the high ground.
Very very unfortunate stuff. It's an unlucky blink there.
I'm gonna come back in. You don't know about lasso though.
Apun, oh my goodness, collapsed the damage. Disruptions there.
Thailand going back down to the low ground. He still has that second life but not even
needing to expend it. Escaping for three. Dude, Heroic are doing this 4v5 by the way.
This game is definitely a title on the show, the mid players are really popping off today.
We were kind of worried about him coming in right because so much weight on his shoulders
to be that X Factor for Heroic that they desperately needed after a month or two
of instability, far from the expectations of many of the South American fans but if
Thailand can do this. I mean, give him the puck every day.
Found Yatoro.
And they get caught now.
There's a time lapse available, waiting it out.
Still, the Ice Pops should come in, Jules to confirm it.
Metro Pyre below his feet.
And Yatoro will be caught and slain.
No running allowed for the Weaver.
And that's 75 seconds without your carry.
Who doesn't have buyback, Yuma's gonna rejoin his team.
You best believe they're heading towards some tier 3s.
Not much trade can do here without the lever. He's the only part of damage.
We can only hope and pray that the waver is going to come back in time before they lose another wave of damage.
Riding the positive momentum from their first win heroic, getting themselves back from the
brink in this group stage, this win here, put them a very comfortable spot in the middle
of the pack.
That would be huge.
I think the ranks though, job's not done yet.
And after this game they still have a dance with Tundra which is going to be a much harder
opponent but working up the ranks here.
I think K-Gold lead now.
I mean this has just kind of been a slow burn right?
We've been looking at Spirit for the past few like 20 minutes and they just don't really have any outs
I feel like that's been a big trend for Spirit so far
Ever since they like I don't damage heroes. It's like the hero. Yeah
Ember will damage
Boing is okay damage. Ricky basically has no damage and bad can't do damage this game against a bad and then he's gone for aura build
That's like the main issue right now
They don't have enough in the tank when he comes to all this teamfight.
They don't do enough damage.
I can't even kill the support man.
Got Ghostseptors, no one can buy another fire because they're all poor as shit.
It's funny because Yuma gets the baddened on the 9-pig, right?
And everyone's committed to countering him.
They're like, okay, we're not gonna let Yuma carry the game.
Well, they don't need Yuma to carry the game
because Tylong's in here beating the shit out of them.
Look at the TI champs, look at a bunch of fools in his pubs.
The lab's just going to get caught, swiped down in three out of attacks.
Yatoro spotted by a ward.
Here's Tylong, ready to quarrel, ready to rumble,
forcing the time-lapse, there's the break, but feel the call.
Ready with an ice pop on the two, you must right on top of Yatoro
and no way out for the bug.
Squashed and flattened, fried.
The voice lines came out, you know Thailand's got to be feeling good.
Yeah, this game is over.
All him. Fresh new agonies for the Dream Coil too.
He's just playing in the speed at this point.
Now themselves a catch. Meryl, they're too quick for them this time,
but the Embers had a completely muted performance.
You compare that to Thailand.
This is the part we call this the mid-diff.
Yeah, you can't even blame him, right?
I mean, it's so easy.
No, you blame, you blame the Fostor, you know, and you're the main.
And what can I do, you know, I'm a big key.
Yeah, I was cute and all when they picked in the draft, everyone was smiling.
I can't imagine Spirit appealing too happy about this situation now.
As we already mentioned at the start of day one, it seems like Slam this format
just doesn't really favor the two-timers.
Whisper won't get caught, nice pushback to keep them at bay
and to prevent them from saving Whisper.
saving Whisper, still able to jump away, Big Lotus is there, and Tylong's in with a massive
coil onto two. Putting the damage out onto Panto as well as Collax and allowing his team
to escape. The turnaround for the Silent playing around with them even more Tylong. To watch
out, still able to force buff himself and all back out to safety, the macro pyres warning
sign don't get any closer.
I'm getting away from my kid.
He's back to the Roshan.
Secure the game.
My spirit has to just go row this thing.
I think they will see the smoke.
They all get this smoke.
There's literally a creep wave in their base.
If they smoke right now, the...
The rowing are going to be completely aware.
Maybe you've got to go.
They just need to go.
It's what I want.
Come on! Top chop!
We've got to make something happen, spirit.
In 39 minutes of...
Kind of just sitting around.
It's such a shame right because we watched the previous game
My lab's on his mask these team fights the setups
Amazing and then now you look at team spirit like what the hell is going on?
What what happened in those one and a half hours that we didn't see you guys?
And these are not bad play I just don't understand the decision to put the bat in the three anyway
He basically relegated him to not having much of a game in fact
And then Thailand just shits on your your ember so hard that we barely see him
It might not be his vision. It's the
Position for one thing at Ricky, you know, so it's like he's like guys
I'm okay to play the deck if you guys think we can play with Ricky
Look at that. Thailand's being so bloody annoying
He pre-ops jumps forward breaks the smoke arcane moon snatched away. You gotta catch your Toro able to hide
might not be a good situation to fight in. Yatoro arcane rune is allowing him, you gotta allow him to Shikuchi endlessly.
After news, ladies and gentlemen, RU has completed his diffusel blade.
Don't you wish that he used to have chicken cut?
Oh that would be hype as hell.
Ha ha!
Badden's just gonna jump in,
immediately manta off just to scare Spirit off the pit.
There still is an opportunity here.
If Collax can find an angle for an initiation,
it could be good he has that Blink Dagger Lasso available.
If he somehow manages to break the Lincolns on the park
and pull Tylong all the way in,
and somehow King Jungles has dropped his keyboard.
There's chance here. I don't know how hard I'm coping at this point. I mean the
fact that it's daytime also doesn't favor them at all right. The lines of sight
are so clear. Heroic are going to be able to see them coming from a mile away
with all the vision they've established. A smoke move out. Sick of waiting around
trying for the wrap. I can see the skill incoming but no one in the
triangle. They've switched positions here a little bit awkward. Panto on the
low ground will break the smoke and the pings come through. It's Yuma on
the front lines leading the charge but where's the action?
Embers found the Omicron.
Say for now, DKB used, Embers still trying to convict for the kill
but an easy TP out.
Meanwhile on the other side of the fight, Yuma just swiping down on the collapse
no lasso for him and no Yatoro as well.
Manta away but he'll get chased down, pulled in by the Harpoon.
No more life for this Weaver.
You gotta imagine maybe the GG is being dropped very shortly.
trying to scurry away through the trees but there's nothing left.
Top lane is being pushed in, but you're last lane to rank this is certainly a way to get mega creeps, Yuma.
He'll get himself a double kill, finds Rue, and the Siege creeps will get it done.
Megas taken, and spirits broken.
So we're all right.
I mean, spirit of not tapping out just yet,
Which is kind of interesting. I thought the Gs would be dropped at this point.
Especially since there's literally no play to make in the next one.
Are you saying this is equivalent to like losing a queen in a chess game and not resigning the game?
I guess so. I think actually if I may be more specific, I think this is like losing a king in the chess game and saying it's not over yet.
I don't see it guys, my co-game tank has run out, I'll be there.
The first lesson I learned from my coach in chess is, they told me, if you have more than 5 points behind and you don't resign the game, you're disrespecting your opponent.
Well, period. Not ready to put an end to things just yet, they've had a sour opening in this group stage.
They want one more fight with your Toro, hopefully you can get in there and do the damage.
Mirell gonna stockings off, run straight into a crush but just dancing around them at the moment
that's Hylian on the back line maybe he's gone a bit too deep.
Smoke to keep him at bay but he's still able to jaunt out.
Spirit still holding on for now, they got a lasso onto the poor Whisper Slardar and he
gets cut up and dried out.
Somehow some way, Spirit are holding on and Yatoro's trying to do the damage.
There's the buyback from the Slardar, he'll rejoin the fight, backline being
rare but Spirit on their support still able to escape as Mirell gets focused down
but they found themselves King Jungles on the side.
The smoke screens starting to do their work,
but Runeau will get hunted down in Yatoro as well.
Straight into an ice path goes the Manta.
Yuma needs to find the auto attacks onto him,
but Yatoro's been a little bit sticky.
Finally getting found by the disruption,
Kailang's still playing around with them,
and Yatoro, he's gonna drop.
Without Yakeri, this seems nigh impossible.
Even with the buyback, Kailang,
he's just been untouched this whole fight.
One final brawl will end them, in spirit, it's just Collapse desperately trying to defend the towers against creeps.
I spared a well-known team for not really calling GG early, they'll fight it out till the very end.
Maybe they know that Heroic have a long day ahead of them and are trying to wear out their opponents as much as possible.
This is just light work for Thailung. Easy for him to take down K'Lantz and finally the GGs will be called.
Spirit can't be too happy about this one but heroic. This is the return for them here.
This might be what it takes for them to still secure a good placement here in the initial stages.
A blast slam 6, smiles on the face of Thailung.
That little kid just carried these boys to victory.
What a game it was by Tyler. Just showcasing the skills and the understanding of the hero.
The way he uses his 4-star, the way he understands what he can do in the game.
A lot of very, very brilliant play. It goes down to his 10% health.
Just going in, going out, making sure that he's creating as much chaos as possible in the team.
I think it's just very well played, you know, like one of the best pubs, pub performance I've seen, you know.
And usually you say that only for the SCA mates, you know, when they're playing pubs, you know.
They're known for being very, very good with the hero, but Thailung is definitely up there with them.
Yeah, you think about the most notable pubs in the world.
Maybe no one on Nisha come to mind.
mind, Thailand, making a case for himself here. Definitely a warning sign to the
other opponents of Heroic. It's not just a first-pick Viper that he can dominate
you with. Heroic, they're back in this day number two of the group stage and
they're ready to come for some points. They're ready to keep themselves in
this tournament on the back of their young prodigy. It's very... I mean they are
continuing to struggle. Definitely fan favourites but a lot of questions
raised with Merelle coming in instead of Lao. Sure they have a very similar
play style but it's not working out and this is not just a one tournament thing right? Murell is
going to be standing in for the next few tournaments this month as well so a lot of problems it seems
like for them to fix the sharpen up on hopefully they can do just that but at least for us me and
Winter we'll be bidding you goodbye but the Dota 2 is far from over. Coming up next we got Yandex
versus Reconyx brought to you by the very handsome Arcarypthic and Z-Quasautics so you want to
want to stick around for that, we'll see you there.
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Welcome back to Blast Line,
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were getting ready for another
fantastic day of dough. Or
just second half of the day
liquid trying to run the longest day of Dota in history currently sitting at an 84 minute
game and a 63 minute game. So you know, we're trends though. So if the trend continues, we'll
have a 40 minute game and then a 20 minute game. So we'll see. Excited for today though.
Obviously yesterday was a lot of fun and we'll see what ends up happening with this
one coming up next is going to be the Reconyx versus Yandex, which I mean, we'll talk
about Yandex in a moment, but Rekonix still a team that struggled day one despite what
looked like some really good games, I'll be honest. Like there were some multiple games
where I thought they were going to win and it just didn't happen, right? Their series
against Tundra in the morning and then their series against Navi as well, both kind
crumbled at the finish line. Yeah, and it's gonna be disappointing, but sometimes
that's just how it goes to start, especially for like a lot of people are
learning about this team, you know, you maybe know FBZ, but the other players in
your dream, I think people also know, the others kind of newer, and sometimes
is your like first time on the international stage for a while, got
got some nerves, got some big expectations where you're playing in your region, now it's
the international stage. So sometimes the first day can just be like shock, you know, like
you're trying and you're like, you got to adapt to everything. But they picked up a
winner earlier today versus mouse, which is a good sign. You know, it's like, Hey,
we learned from the first day, we're learning like what went wrong, what we need to improve
on, and we got to win. Let's get a second one here now versus team Yandex.
Yeah, that's what I'm hopeful for. I want to see this team just tighten the screws a little bit, right?
And we'll see how they do against their opponents, which Yandex is a team that I really am curious about because
We've seen this team absolutely crush over recent history. Like they've done super well
But they are currently sitting at two and three, which is not really where a lot of teams would have
Like expected them to be. That being said, their losses are against
a lot of people probably consider some of the favorites,
but we'll see how they do, right?
This is a team that I think a lot of people
have high hopes for.
There's a lot of fans of these players on these teams.
Like, let's be real, Soxa is one of the greatest
fours of all time.
Like, I don't think there's anyone out there who's like,
man, I don't like Soxa.
You know, like he's such a lovable guy.
So I think when he's on the enemy team,
you say, I hate Soxa.
Okay, that's better.
You have to play against them, you know?
I could understand that, but it's a very likable roster,
so always hoping to see them do well.
As we jump into our bands,
Tree of Protector, Viper, Disruptor, Bathrider,
and Shadow Demon so far.
A lot of supports actually taken out,
which is fair.
I would say there are some strong supports
in the meta right now,
But usually it's more like Chen Jikiro in the mix, Largo, rather than Disruptor, which
I do think is something Reconyx has been playing a little bit more, and possibly you play them
in scrims and you're like, oh that's a scary Disruptor, don't give it to them, take it
out.
We don't always get to see that kind of info, but we do get some of the typical
core bands as well coming back around Viper, Razor, Huskar.
really polarizing heroes, you know, they just shut down certain matchups so hard, and they're
all in a pretty decent spot and a surprising amount of flex, you know, you say that a couple
years ago, it'd be like, what flex, how can you move these heroes anywhere, but nowadays
they can pretty much play any core role.
Yeah, it's fun to see how things like that end up happening, right?
We'll see that J'Kiro come out as the first pick, Largo!
Largo!
Largo!
I mean he's been good. He's been doing okay. I say that without having checked his win rate at all so far this
That's not good. I'm gonna check. I was gonna say from personal experience. I don't feel like it's been good
To be fair
I think the two Largo games you and I got to see were both gamer legion off lane Largo games where they had
Separate issues like Largo didn't do amazing
But I think they had separate issues that caused it to look even worse with that said his win rate is like two and eight or something right now
Three and eight right now absolutely fantastic for me because that means valve will not nerf this hero
But I think I think he is good
I think he's just going through that new hero thing which is like okay. No pro played him and then oh shit
He's in captain's mode really early. Okay, everybody play him
Okay, he seems good because no one knows how to deal with him and then you kind of learn how to deal with him
and you've been putting too much priority on him,
so he's getting countered and he's not getting the games he needs,
and you stop doing it as much,
and then you get a little bit more time to practice,
and you're like, oh, I'm picking Largo in good Largo games now,
rather than like forcing it right away all the time,
and now we understand, and then it wraps back around to being good.
So that's what I think is going to happen.
I think we're in that dip period now,
where everyone's trying to pick him too early,
and he looks way worse than he's supposed to.
Not me looking at every single figure in the background there,
trying to see which ones I recognize thank you for that yeah yeah yeah figure
weird yeah no is really weird how's it a Largo figure big JJ K fan it would seem
though all right well uh brewmaster gets picked we've been seeing this hero a ton
right so this is a is a nice one we I think overall it's been a consistent
pick multiple build paths we hit you know we did see a Midas brewmaster in a
where they were steamrolling so I'm not gonna really count that one but the idea
generally being the urn into the agonim scepter or the vessel into the agonim
scepter right like this has been pretty much the standard for this hero but yeah
it's also nice into jikiro one of the strongest laners out there and you pick
up evasion really early so you can at least dodge some of those twin terror
attacks but also jikiro really likes to run you down with move slows and
the damage in but his stuns are a little on the light side. Ice path is nice but not a long
duration stun and that means even if you do get the damage in on the brewmaster he's probably
still gonna brew split at least when it comes to the jikiro you can get you know other heroes to
deal with it and you should since this is a you know first phase brewmaster you should
definitely have to face some counter picks coming in here we've seen like weaver come up I don't
know weaver jikiro sounds like a little bit of a strange lane but the the weaver carries
Into brew master have had good results. That is true
I'd actually be really open to the weaver pick here because it is it is something Watson actually really likes to play
Yeah, there's the weaver band. That was a really good call
So heads up band from her conics
then in terms of
picks coming forward
there's still some strong supports
could look at the
hoodwink or
the dark willow to something that pairs with the brewmaster
The Largo still in the pool. Yeah, I'm actually still still up for that
Skyrats, okay. My thought was like a high damage four, which is why I was thinking maybe some like arc willow
But they go for the skyrat instead
And that certainly brings a lot of damage when you throw out the
the old cinderbrew plus magic damage to proc and then you just right click together
but you do see it now so I feel like you can grab something that doesn't care
maybe like Abaddon could be okay you can save your Dekiro if he ever gets none
on but also for yourself you can just dispel some of that damage coming in
And Chateaufume is another one we've seen in the carry way to deal with the Brewmaster,
which is you're pretty strong, especially when you land the raises, which cannot be evaded.
But you gotta be careful, if they get too close to you, you are also quite squishy and
could easily feed to the Brewmaster Skyrath.
So you're gonna rely on your jikiro.
Get in front of me, please.
You are actually tankier than me, despite being a support, and you are much stronger.
tank the damage for me and I will just hit creeps. Yeah and there is you know
there is still the option of moving to Jikiro and picking a different five right
like if they have 18th pick here you could still go for something like a
clockwork or a tusk. Clockwork's not as much the counter to the brewmaster as
it used to be because of the status resistance on Earth Panda allows you
to actually get the split off between battery salts now but it's it is
another option you can just move to Jikiro to the 4. You could also go
for the warlock pick which is like a kind of more of an old-school shadow themed
pick where it's like the idea is you just sustain the shadow fiend indefinitely
and he just can sit there and kind of farm and I don't think skyrath is you
know that's like you can't really pull the lane on skyrath if he tries he's
just gonna get shadow word spammed and take a lot of damage from the warlock
so I don't know it could be an option but yeah I kind of like the idea of
the tusk coming out. We'll see. Yeah, you got some options. You're gonna see two more
picks here. Skyrath could also move. I prefer position 4 Skyrath, but you will sometimes
see teams run at position 5 if the flex makes sense. And maybe now that you see the Shadowfiend,
maybe you want something different. It is pretty flexible though, like Shadowfiend
could be carry mid, Tiny could be mid or position 4. Some teams moving around even
more than that but I think those are the two best roles. So Connix kind of has to decide
how they want to handle that and they also need to pick up more actual initiation for
themselves. Brewmaster does a lot of things but setting up an easy stun is not really
one of them and that's exactly what Skyrath wants. The lane combo just get damage out,
that's fine. But eventually you got your ultimate and there you go. Something like
roar right you roar the shadow fiend I drop the ult and we get an easy kill we
want to be able to do that on repeat because the the ults are or at least the
skywrath ult is relatively low cooldown so beast master should fit that bill and
place pretty safely into tiny or shadow fiend mid or some some other new mid
pick coming out yeah I like the idea of this just being almost guaranteed
mid lane beast master but we did see Reconyx play it in the safe lane
yesterday so it's something that they are you know fine with doing and to be
fair that game was looking really good for them and then it was really the
arcane blink decision of like we're so far ahead let's just you know get an
arcane blinkers was it that game or is that a different game I feel like that
was the Reconyx game I think it was I'll double check real quick it's one of
those things where I'm like I think that's what happened but there's a
lot of games going on yeah it was that one it was okay yeah it's like
They were really far ahead, and then it was like maybe some slight decisions and items and team fights that kind of
Backfired on them, but I think in general like his Beastmaster looked really strong
So I'm definitely okay with it. We get the Marana arrow to follow up the roar now
So another great disable decent lane trading support
So if they'd want to put this as like a 5th position Marana, which it probably is
It can play into the jikiro relatively well
if they run the jacquero 4? I will say I don't these are a lot of things that
needs setup now like you want something to set up aero and you want something to
set up skyrath old and they don't set each other up and roar was like decent
like one but I thought you would get another one to work with and now we
actually need a new hero to set up both of these supports which I don't
really like if you do go for a carry, I don't know who does. I think it has to be a mid.
I think you have to do Beastmaster carry now with the mid playmaker would be my preference
to make both these supports work.
Ember Spirit's the most, it's like Ember Spirit, Dragonite are like the two heroes that come
to mind more so than anything. Dragonite, go against Tiny Mids, so is Ember Spirit.
So I would say like in terms of giving you like the playmaking heroes, those make
the most sense, but in order to protect the Underlord they're forced to ban the Ursa first.
I think next it has to be Dragon Knight, that's the most, that's the one you're probably worried
about the most because it could go mid or safe lane. I think real realistically it's
going to be, it would be like mid DK you'd put safe lane Beastmaster into the Underlord,
It's like a perfectly fine lane.
Oh, interesting.
They're anticipating a four position tiny,
which I guess with an Underlord is really scary.
You never get to leave the pit.
This is your home now.
You try, you get requiem, you're trying to leave the pit.
You toss back in, get ice path, yeah.
It'll be really hard.
Once you're in the pit, there is no leaving the ball pit.
So some four staffs might need to come out
for the side of the conics to help each other out.
But if you don't pick a mid-hero,
someone needs to get an A-toast at like Marana,
which means it then delays the four staff.
Because you need something to set up this like Aero
and the Skyrathalth and everything,
or your Brewmaster running at people, right?
Like they want a low cooldown ability to just chuck out.
And actually now the nice thing about Tiny
and you could play position four,
you do that one stun and Tiny's like, I'll save you.
You toss it, you do like tiny airlines
as we see in the, you know, the pick animations.
So I do think that something,
I would like to see the Beastmaster carry now
and pick a low cooldown playmaker.
All right, so they really are anticipating
mid Beastmaster here,
despite the safely in Beastmaster we saw yesterday.
Which it doesn't, it doesn't have to be.
It's not that they're like this really anticipating us.
That's what they're worried about most are like
a couple of carries that really ball out,
Which, those are heroes that Shadowfiend really struggles with as well, if they're planning on running this as a safe lane Shadowfiend.
But we'll see right now from Yondex what their final decision is going to be.
Will it be a mid laner? Will it be a safe laner?
It's a support for a socks up
that's right cool. I mean your
junior used to play mid Caudill but I don't think we really see core Caudill
anymore true you could flex it around I suppose I like the idea of position
for though, because Tiny is actually one of the best pairings from the mid lane with that
Choker Magic, just so many low cooldown, avalanche tosses with the crash landing, it's just so
much damage.
Then you're one of the best stackers in the game and then you have the Underlord Department
or later on the Shadow Fiend.
And actually we were just joking about the pit being really annoying, but actually
if you use the Choker Magic on Underlord and you get the pit even lower cooldown
in these fights and you also have an axe, and there's actually so many pits
in this fight. It could be a real pain for Reconyx, so I think position 4 is just fine,
but maybe depending on this last one, more play. I guess you could do mid with the Spirit
Vessel, but okay yeah, they're just going to do position 4, Keeper, and then grab
the mid Tiny. You can still block Spirit Vessel on the
Caudal. Yeah, as like Caudal can still go Vessel,
But honestly, Tiny is one of the best mid-heroes into Morphling, Carrie.
It's like Tiny and Puck are the two best because you have overwhelming magical burst damage
that he can't morph through, right?
So especially with the change to like Tiny's stun being an aura now, like typically in
the past you'd have to blink toss Avalanche to get the actual stun because he could
morph after the first take.
Now you actually can't.
So the Morphling matchup in the Tiny is way worse than it used to be.
That being said, it is good into the Underlord lane.
I'm a little unsure of how I feel about the Morphling pick, but the mid lane should go
well for Reconyx.
I think Beastmaster does typically come out ahead against the Tiny.
He should at least get what he needs.
I don't think you can really stop each other.
I think Beastmaster has a better chance of stopping Tiny than the other way around, but
the Tiny will have all the stacks from Soxa to catch back up to the Blink Dagger, and
Beastmaster will be doing it himself to also get his own timings.
I just worry that as supports start to play with their teams, especially getting active
with the mid, on one side you have the Tiny who's like, yeah, okay, I'm ready to go,
sped me up with the stacks I'm ready to just like blink in avalanche toss into all my support damage
on the other side the beast master probably gonna go agg from the mid lane and the supports have
we were saying these two abilities like I would love someone to set this up and you look around
and the one guy you can do it wants to finish his aggonyms brew master setup is really weird
and morphling like I guess you know I guess you got that that strength stun
But it feels really awkward to me. I could definitely see them struggling to connect on any actual plays
Yeah, I think that's the
The thing that kind of confuses me about the skyrath pick
It is just generally a high damage hero for the lane
But I think if you if you want that like there are better options that just offer more team fight
Uh, you know like the dark willow that we've seen just because it's it is a hero that brings terrorize and brand bowl
and Curse Crown and all these other things but when you're picking Skyrath in my eyes it's like the
idea is you're picking it for the silence and you're picking it for the the massive burst damage
from the ultimate that you're comboing with and there's really just roar outside of a like a
convenient arrow right and that's like about it so we'll see maybe this silence will end up
surprising me in terms of how much it can get done but I I really like the Yandex draft
I think overall it checks a lot of boxes, the tiny being kind of bolstered by this Keeper of the Light
with constant mana and spell usage in that mid game is going to be really terrifying for them to deal with.
Yeah, I think the Yandex draft is far easier to play and I like it, like checks all the boxes
you typically want from a draft. I think the Reconyx draft is greedy, but it can work. Like
Like when things are working, it'll work really well and if they stop working, it's gonna like fall off a cliff, you know?
There's no, there's no middle ground for this type of draft in my, in my view.
One of the things to get you going would be a first blood.
Marana's nowadays don't really like to start with Arrow, but if you can get an early kill
You might be willing to
But then there's no one that really sets up the level one
You know the blind throw you might actually even need to get the leap if more heroes show up
I mean Tiny is making his way over, but he does mostly just want to play for that that bounty rune
Oh nice pushback from Soxa, Blinding Light Level 1, which is a pretty common spell for
the caudals to pick up now early.
Yeah, you can use it to secure creeps, you can use it to knock people around like that.
There's a lot of cute plays you can do with it.
Mm-hmm.
There we got three here, Malady hiding in the side, seeing if anyone wants to try
to stop this, but I think they're aware.
I actually want to watch what he does to the morphling.
I mean, what's the cooldown on Blinding Light here?
Two seconds.
So I think the morph's going to try and counterblock this wave.
And Sox is realistically just going
to shove him back into the tower, which might force
the creep wave to crash.
If that happens, they get the lane equilibrium
in a really good spot.
Yeah.
On the other hand, I think he might not,
because you still haven't seen Malady.
And you might be scared.
Yeah, he's giving it a go.
There's the blast.
Good call.
Yeah.
Share into the tower.
And then Malady's still here.
I mean that's a lot of damage, but he's not bad at the end of the day
You get what you want Lane's gonna be next to your own tower
Morphlings not gonna be able to see us super well since he's already had to morph a little bit. I
Appreciate the cheeky attempt with the the early blood grenade to formality see if you could just
Get more fling by surprise
It doesn't mean you lose some aggression when you go back to the top side and
And Reconyx was doing the same thing, like they body blocked up top as well, so Brewmaster isn't a decent spot to begin with.
Man, this has been a very common strategy as of late, right? Like everyone kinda doing this type of thing.
But only some people punishing it. I think this will be the next evolution of these early smokes,
which is that at some point we will have teams just wait by the off lane.
As a like a full squad with a really late smoke to try to kill someone doing this stuff.
I could see that.
OG's kind of already doing it to some degree.
It's not all the time, and that's what makes it so hard to know what is happening or not.
But they look for these like strange first bloods that other teams don't expect.
You know, it's like, oh, we got runes.
We all honorably go back to lane now, right?
And OG's like, hey, wouldn't it be funny if four of us were in this tree line right
now, getting ya?
That would be funny.
I do appreciate a good, a good funny play.
So mid lane we've got the Tinyverse Beastmaster, we've talked about it right, like pretty oh
my, okay that's really good for tier of denier, kill both bores actually, that's not normally
supposed to happen.
But normally this lane should be pretty even but the Beastmaster kinda starts to tilt
in his favor once you have more points in the axes.
As you see the CS starting to build up, both teams got the body block off that they wanted.
But Underlord, I think having an easier time maintaining the lane further back with the
damage you get from your passive.
So you see he's got like more blasted and denies whereas on the other side SF has more
damage than the Morphling does early and you ramp up further.
So both side lanes kind of starting to lean towards Yandex despite the even blocking from
both teams.
A little bit of a mistake there from Soxa, using the blinding light before the Lotus
pool.
So they can't really contest it, gives the Lotus on over to the Murana, which I'm
assuming it'll go into the more fling sandthip, there it is.
It's funny. I think I you saw the realization
Like the moment he did the blinding line. He was like, oh wait
We can't really do this anymore, can we? It happens it happens
Fighting supports fighting over the pool camps a lot dropping
all their sentry socks again going through
I'm gonna make him wants to... okay I thought he might commit to the creep drag which I thought was
strange but I guess it was strange because he's just getting by and he's not gonna go for it
making space for that underlord I guess uh malady top line and a lot of danger here taking
a beating from these two heroes but double raise into fbz does he have mana for a third?
Oh, he does, but not gonna be enough
Bottom lane
Hot oops
Was he caught morphing the wrong way or something? I have to imagine so he has one Matt
What hold on I gotta do some research here oops
Oops.
Look, it happens sometimes when you play the morph leg.
It's not supposed to happen, but it does happen.
So, he's gonna slow himself down a little bit.
Yeah.
I think he legitimately might have worked the wrong way.
A top lane, really nice move with their B plus
and getting the extra raises.
Now the Murana coming through.
I mean, the thing is you have his jikiro.
Like, do you actually wanna fight them?
It's really scary.
And you're not gonna like TP in the Beastmaster when he doesn't have Ror yet.
I guess that's true.
Yeah, pretty deep move but they just back out on their own.
You know I mean if you had a skier here than Marana, well maybe you don't do that but
you're right, she rotates in, the thing you're scared of most is Aero and she doesn't
even have it yet because she has no setup for it.
Oh my lord, Aerole gets out.
Tell you what, if you didn't have his second bracer already from that earlier kill, you
might have killed the Underlord there.
Oh, they found the Beastmaster stacks.
Okay, that's a really sick rotation in from Soxa to come help Chiro Junior with these.
How many was this?
Three?
I think it was four stacks.
Maybe four?
Either way, at least Beastmaster can use summons, so it's not like a waste of his
own hero's time.
He still got farm instead of like sacrificing farm to stack to get it later, but still taken
it away from him, get into your own faster blink timing.
And they lose the RNG on the rune there, goes to pure junior's tiny, just bottles up an
arcane.
Gonna help him farm even faster, but the big question is going to be how much stacking,
you know, can the caught will actually get done in this game because he's been playing
pretty active in the bottom lane and kind of roaming around rather than make his own stacks
he was stealing some stacks yeah pretty similar value I would say a little stronger top I mean
stars for there's your arrow avalanche from the tiny tosses of the way but he still managed
to kick down under the tower but a lot of damage now with the jikiro trying to burn
down these heroes you will take one the support of that skyrope mage now looking for the marana
tons of damage coming from the toss and that arcane room doing work and that avalanche well
it's gonna be back up soon this toss again is he reach yeah if he gets vision he's gonna get vision
oh there it is from downtown the crash landing claims another and now with the lotus pool
spawning underlord just comes in notice gonna make him work for it here's another toss
Yavillage, uh-oh, your brewmaster, or your beastmaster, dying in the mid lane, arrow from down-
That's actually gonna prevent him from taking the portal now.
And notice that's the walk home.
Even if he dies, this is such a win.
Oh yeah.
Because Malady got the other one, right? On the jikiro?
Yeah, he TP'd out.
Maybe a little faster than that.
Bye guys, I'm out.
He's probably one of the ones who should stay around as the support, but uh,
he gets out, secures his own wisdom, trying so.
that sequence of events you get you do lose your shadow fiend, but you get a bunch of return kills
force a ton of rotations to that top lane and then still steal the wisdom shrine
can you save top top toss him out he's surely gonna burn here to the brew and iron right
yeah tries to go for the deny doesn't quite happen
be right right they got three kills as well as the top lane using FBZ brand new
brew split this is a dead shadow fiend for a second time right turning the pace of
the game a little bit here really well done call from Reconyx realizing hey
they were up here and now we see them moving to the other parts of the map
like they can't help shadow fiend again actually Watson there probably also
needs to recognize that and be really really careful but maybe didn't realize the bruise
bullet was up yet. Oh poor Marana. Well they're coming right back top like okay you know maybe
we do just continue running at these guys uh they're gonna I think drop a sentry get a
d-word yep they do and with the shadow fiend coming back you're making sure there's no
stacks in the enemy jungle for this brew master or for the beast master play around
Alright, there's so many masters in this game.
Good placement there. You gotta make sure you cover that, uh, pub players.
It doesn't look like you can ward there, but you gotta make sure your sentry covers that little ledge right there.
Jekiro doing what he loves to do just chipping away at the mid lane tower or any tower rather
the help of the tiny shouldn't take him too long he is level seven my guy that is a really
high level Jekiro I mean he's participated in all these kills got himself the wisdom
trying right didn't die because he's getting out nice and early so yeah he's
very high level a lot of damage to add in when the you get the avalanche toss backs
should be able to secure this yeah that's a that's a very good kill too yeah I mean
they're gonna try and toss them out the roar does come through is not gonna be
enough to save the jacquero and with the rest of these heroes here maybe they
can find a kill in the chair junior but in that comes the underlord the
pit of mouths the firestorm a lot of damage coming through there's gonna be
the solar bind now on dream and avalanche gonna slow him down even more the
double raise the toss is it enough almost but not quite there the chase
continuing they really want the beast best when they can't get up and now
forced to try to keep the air out the air from downtown they get the kill
punishing Yandex for that play very well played from Reconyx everybody
there for the 10 minute fight. Not too surprising from the side of Yondex because you have the
Underlord, but Jekroy deciding, I also want to participate in these. He's got the Vlad,
it's pretty useful to join, maybe in here too.
My Error that one, yep. He denied the tower though, you know, we're going to put a silver,
a little asterisk on there. His death wasn't completely worthless, but uh, yeah, dying
in general, he doesn't, you don't really want to do that, especially when you
of lads. You can farm like crazy now on this hero. I like the choice to join with
the lads but still got to get out especially the the avalanche toss is
just something you got to be so careful of especially when it's amplified by a
keeper of the light. Pace shouldn't really be slowing down for the side of
Yandex. The blink dagger is on the way for tiny Soxa working on a holy
lock it so the team will just stay extremely healthy with the Illuminate Spam, you got all
your mana because of the Chalker Magic, no real reason to stop.
Yeah, this caudal-tiny combination is gonna be terrifying, right? Solarbind makes it almost
impossible to get away from the Keeper of the Light, and now you're gonna have, you
know, a blink-tiny online who can almost kill anybody in the combo.
They're on a collision course with the morphling don't wait for him to farm don't wait for him to farm. He's morphing
This is exactly what I was talking about man
This this matchup is so rough and it only takes a couple of those specific deaths
To really hurt the morphlings game. He's still really like relatively high
Okay, I say he was he was like third on net worth a moment ago, but now he's six so
So yeah, that's the slowing down of the game that we were talking about.
Awesome.
You just go, hey, you want to smoke and kill him when he teleports out to farm again?
Like, yeah, why not?
Yeah, yeah, very low cooldowns on this.
Good night.
That's great.
That is a vessel completed here.
Arrows off the mark he does go and just commit the brew split to chase him down.
Scarlet Mage even dropping the ultimate.
I mean, they're getting kills on, uh, on, uh, Reconyx, okay?
They've actually used the brewmasters really well this game, and, you know, we'll see if
they can make enough space for this morphling, because that's kind of where this lineup
is going to go, right?
You have Beastmaster and Brewmaster, these guys are going to be playing really aggressive.
Beastmaster's not really ready to join the same way Tiny is.
We mentioned, right?
He's got to finish the aggs, and he's getting there.
He's got 800 more gold to go. He's finishing up some stacks, so
Should join in
Marama
Just keeps keeps happening
Close
You're gonna have solar pines here for FPC. Yeah, he's gonna get caught out and he's gonna try and turn around do what they want
Welcome to the plan, but yeah, welcome to the pit. You're not allowed to leave ever again
Wait wait. Yeah, okay, that's almost almost if you get out of the pit you they have to let you go
It's actually they have to respect it. Yeah, it's in yeah, it's a it's a contract. All right, you may go
Morphling keep your distance. He should know they're in the area
He also just like can't really be below a thousand HP for at any point going forward
That's the that's the other really terrifying part about the matchup is it slows down your farm by the hero
just existing on the map. Like anytime you don't see the tiny you have to morph back
up to like a thousand twelve hundred health. Yeah it's definitely a pain. For now though
he saw the tiny head mid so he he will rejoice finally shoving butt space
sure junior trying his luck since he saw that pole happening but this guy right
already out of there this is what you need to do though with this this combo
The tiny and the caudal just run around together, keep finding kills.
And it's also why we kind of critiqued this marana...
Oh, by Marana.
Kind of critiqued this Marana Skyrath combo, and then the cores they are paired with.
Because you want to do something similar with this Skyrath and Marana.
You're like, yeah, let's just go.
You know, go, go, go, I arrow, we drop Skyrath ult, like we can do it too.
Oh, I guess we can't, because we don't have someone who builds a bling.
But now that window is finally ending as you get the eggs on the Beastmaster
So they also need to ramp up their pace and join in on these fights
Okay, I mean this is a I don't know I don't know why but something about tiny
Instantly killing a max HP hero. It's been it's been a thing for as long as I can remember playing Dota
But it's still comical to me. It's just it's always funny
There are there are two things that are really funny and don't have killing someone from full health extremely quickly
And then not being able to kill someone at all
Yeah, you just hit them for like 30 seconds and they're gaining health those two things are comical to see yeah
That's why it's honey's a crowd pleaser for sure scan those connect topside here
They know they're running straight at this Beastmaster trying to see if they can intercept he goes to the left side the tee
Just passing him in the night.
They thought he'd go deeper to the jungle, but he did retreat instead.
So very, very fortunate patting there for In Your Dreams.
They actually scan a second time and don't find him.
So, back through the Twin Gate potentially to the bottom side of the map.
That would be my guess.
See if maybe they can find the Morphling instead.
He's pushing away, then. They do have an observer down here.
Okay, Morphling is falling back though. He knows to be careful.
Think Yandex will know to go deeper though if they want to find him
Not showing on the wave
Coddle just giving it a slight push
So light
Nukes the whole creep wave in one just a very slight gentle
Gentle bashing on the head
Almost takes a bashing on the head there as the on the marana, but then it just to leap away just in time
I
Underlord can join this so this is five heroes for yandex
Ready to brawl we only got three up here for for comics the Beast Masters in the Lord. Goodbye Beast Master
Oh, that's rough avalanche toss into the requiem. We saw this yesterday. They're trying to pee out
But the other guy catches too the way they're like on a bonus
Okay he's out of the pit now though guys, guys let him go, let him go
You've got to respect it
Dude they didn't even know he was there, they're like wait a minute
Who's that?
Well, you don't know he's there 100%
But that's why the, like he could have put the pit right on top of Skyrim
But there's no need, right?
You give yourself the chance to catch more heroes by doing something like that
That's the next level pro play, it looks very similar
But it gets you these extra kills sometimes like this
Yeah, I didn't know he was there actually like all those spells lined up perfectly
They knocked him into the AoE range ice path hit. I don't know just bad luck or it was like they saw him path that way
But I don't know if they actually could have seen him teleporting
So it was like you said that's just the next level like bro playing of being like your base
You'll get them, you know. Yeah
And they get connected they're like oh drop the century. We got a voice
Yes, like
When you're a hold up a cheer junior look at the more kills
Kind of protect their world center
Well, with this Roche attempt, I mean, they don't have the vision on the high ground,
but they don't seem too bothered by Yon- er, I'm sorry, by Reconyx contesting this.
So this will be first to Aegis into the hands of Watson's Shadowfiend.
Yeah, I can't recall seeing a Skyrath.
Mystic Flair.
They used it on the Underlord tier one tower bottom.
That was the only time I saw it.
the uh brew master split tried to chase him down but they did kill him
uh-oh not again
yeah it switched to daytime though it switched to daytime he knows he's here somewhere
he got him that's the blind checking yeah well yeah he doesn't know yet
oh they don't have detection so he didn't know he got it yeah they had dust but they're just
Just gonna go top for the Tormenter instead.
Just take this right away.
You've got the Shadowfiend.
Very easy for him to do so.
Shard goes to Soxa.
Really powerful shard.
Two Solar Binds gonna be great in these fights.
And now even more healing from your Illuminate.
Plus Holy Locket.
Ain't just full heal.
Anybody.
You're gonna load us as well.
Stick it on your Tiny as he jumps in.
And now do you respond to that?
Now that your one major ability is a roar and now there's going to be a Lotus orb
Illuminating healed like 700 health. What was that?
That's a
We've seen that one before very nice play
I mean really sick item build from the shadow fiend to recognize you can go for an early blink this game
Play around the kaiyasha like it's just not your standard carry build
but
It owns this game like the caster version of shadow fiend is still very strong in this matchup
Yeah, but still taking lasting presence. It's really interesting. Yeah, I don't think I've seen this like the spellcaster build with a right-clicking facet
I think is I've actually ran this quite a bit
myself
It feels really good like you actually never run out of mana to farm and
And you transition still at late game into a very high damage, you know, right-clicking hero
So he's still gonna build like BKB. He could build Daedalus. I guess a lot of options
But you're against the morphing. He's super high armor, right? So you kind of want hybrid damage
Rose's boar back at him
Well off the mark there with the ice path they will see the rest of team hiding the trees Watson
No requiem but does look for the morphing here. He's caught out a little bit of a bad position still has that ages player up
There's the bit of mouths to roar out with the BKB
But the crimson guard reducing a lot of this damage as well as the pipe they go for the brew split now
But the broolings just get absolutely crushed under the weight of
Yandex as he just tries to hop away on this last earth ruling another stun here on the Watson
But he's just taking through it all and now Dreeb stuck
with nowhere to go too dead as a jump forward on your junior into the
yule's and with the constant refreshes of spells coming in from Soxa to get
themselves a third kill for Watts in the lasting present stacks it matters man
he's up to three extra souls
yeah yeah you have toss only no avalanche okay just up as I clicked it
He did a lot of damage in that fight on Reconyx with slightly better execution.
I think you can, you know, pick up a couple kills, but this is where the double aura build
on the Underlord, plus the Illuminate Heal Spam, you just can't get through it if you
don't do it in one go, right?
Like the Roar Mystic Flair, if that doesn't get you killed, gradual damage over time
is not going to do it.
This is like the perfect Tiny build as well.
He actually doesn't need to itemize for damage. He has a caudal, which basically is his damage, right?
Just constantly giving him his spells back. And now he has Yule's Force Staff.
So he has multiple ways of catching and multiple ways of disengaging.
From here.
It's looking pretty good for Team Yon Dex. I think you can chill a little bit, just spend all the money you just earned.
find a nice pick-off and at any moment you get that you just go clean up some
more barracks if you don't find anything you just wait for Roche like the
game plan is very simple for you now yeah on the side of her conics I mean I
think that last fight is the first time I saw the roar and the mystic flare like
really go together you got to try again but it's it's pretty tough on who to
find at this point plus a low disorder was almost done on Soxa I guess got
fast reaction times and long cast ranges so you got to make sure you are
nowhere near him when you roar somebody. They just have multiple tools now right
like to save the roar target. You have four stats, like you say you have the
Lotus, there's the Avalanche, POS, into the Requiem, instantly killed. They almost
gets the silence off but that's what we're talking about man that combo we
saw yesterday still just as strong off of carry shadow fiend as it is off
a mid Shadowfiend. 2200 magic damage instantly. Roar into the Mystic Flare, they got the Tiny.
There you go, the BKB even committed but it's worth it. It's a massive kill bounty going their way.
Again for the Mordflink. He does have the Met. He was stunned. The Ice Pab just perfectly
timed to prevent the Manta. Wow, that is a lot of burst. You don't really expect that much
first damage without the tiny, but they still got it.
Shadowpeak jumping in super aggressively, just looking to finish off this hero, but they will get the pie back of the morp fling.
They'll retreat instead.
Tiny's still dead for 60 seconds, headed Malus to try and block them off with the firestorm as well.
They just go ahead and morph aggressively past this front line, to see if they can actually get a load of support for staff.
Doing so much work the cyclone pulls the shadow team to the air, but he's got a BKB. He's got a blank. He's got shadow play
He's perfectly safe
Now you've got to run FBZ
Needs to get these pandas to safety as the tiny has respawned and he's gonna come in with a vengeance, baby
Looking for one instead finds to the two men to get the arrow into the missing player
Oh, no, he's gonna get the cycle it off. He's just perfectly healthy now
They turn around there's gonna be the war on to the BKB shut up feed in comes the more playing can actually kill this guy
There's just no damage. They're running out of gas here on the side of mechanics that barely goes your more fling
There goes the GG and yondex will take this series
What's gonna live I even dying the fountain keeps a stat line. All right a very clean game from team yondex they
I don't really, I feel like we covered it.
They played a very clean game of their draft.
Like, hey, we're gonna play around this tiny caudal.
Our carry will farm under the level joint
and then they do that perfectly, right?
They didn't really get disrupted.
On the other side, that was our worry, right?
Like, how can you match this
if all the cores need a certain amount of items
before they can get involved?
And even when they have their items,
they just don't have to cool down.
Like there's a difference in cooldowns between what the supports want to do and what the cores want to do.
And by the time we see it start to come into play, like the roar and the mystic flares, it's pretty late.
You're going into like pipes and lotuses and multiple force staffs.
Sorry, it becomes a very difficult combo to land.
And then that's kind of their only combo because the Morphling had a very rough time.
I would say like three items is when Morphling gets really scary and this game is ending when he's at like two and a half.
So just doesn't have the damage to kill anyone into the insane healing and damage reduction
of the Underlord.
Yeah I like there was a couple different times we saw the Underlord coming into the fight
and they'd go to drop like the roar plus like pretty much everything they had.
It was like Crimson Guard pipe and you're just like huh really not taking a lot of
damage here you know like just kind of sitting through it like when's this going to end
I'll get out these not stunned in a moment and I'll finally be able to do stuff again,
but it really is a super clean and well-rounded draft from Yandex, and I gotta give massive
credit to Watson to not build Shadowfiend like your conventional carried Shadowfiend
like we've seen going the Mask of Madness and stuff like that.
He rushes the spell casting build, early Falcon Blade, Kaeyasha, Blink, BKB, which
is perfect for this game.
You're playing around the tiny pick-off, the quick requiem kills, and the constant raise
damage into the morphling as well as just too much for him to deal with.
Yeah, it was really well done from them, so they're going to get another win, the group
stage continues though, so we got more games coming up guys, it'll be a quick break but
then we'll be back with, I think we've got like four more today, so yeah, so you
Go get a snack, take a break, and then be back in just a moment.
and we'll be right back.
here in this group stage as coming up next is going to be liquid versus a mouse. We just
finished watching Yandex and Reconyx and it was a fun game. It was a fun series. Yandex
ends up getting the win there, but liquid have been running the gauntlet today. They
have, if I'm not mistaken, like over two and a half hours of game time today in
two series. So, you know, we'll see if this one's any faster, but you know, I'm
I'm not going to hold my breath if that's, you know, on, you know, if I had a choice.
I think it should be.
We were joking.
It's been on a downward trend for the day starting at the 80 minutes,
the own down to 60.
But also their next opponent is Mao's and Mao's tends to have a
faster play style with picks that lean into that.
So like either they, things go well, they win and they wouldn't fast or they
lose and they don't have great recovery methods and then you like fall apart.
So I actually think this game should be faster.
Which way it goes?
I don't know.
We'll have to see once the draft begins.
But I will say even with some drafts that look decent, Mouse has been a bit shaky.
I think they, and Team Yandex, which did look good in the last series at least,
they have found success when the teams recently formed earlier in the year, right?
They both managed to win a tournament,
look relatively good,
but I think that put the spotlight on them.
And I think some of the reason they looked good
is because they figured out what they like
and teams didn't know them as well.
You know, you're prepping more for like Falcons and Tundra
and you're like, okay, you know,
quick prep for like this mouse team, this Yandex team
and they roll you and you're like, okay,
way more respect on the next one, right?
Then you're like,
doing all your research, getting ready.
And now is the tough part for these teams
that find that quick success.
You have to stand up to who that immense pressure from other teams all studying you and figuring
out what you like to do.
And now you still have to perform and beat them.
It's really true.
And it's like coming into this series, like these are the two teams, like mouse has the
shortest game of the tournament and liquid has the by far the longest game of the tournament.
So this is greater, you know, which one is going to, uh, you know, come out the
winner here.
We'll see.
I'm excited for a fun series.
are really good at drafting.
Nisha has been having an absolutely insane day already.
So we'll see if he keeps that kind of going
into this third series for that.
But when it comes to Malz, they do kind of force
your hand in a lot of bands.
They were like the team that kind of started just
normalizing first overall pick Huskar.
And people were like, huh?
I guess we have to start banning that.
phase one now don't we you know like it's it's kind of weird how how all of
this has kind of shaped up over the last few months but it's not though yeah it
is I like I like changes and I don't want to see the same 10 heroes every
game I was in the same 10 bands every game you know for like a year you know
like other MOBAs that where that's the case like we just get we get to see
things shake up quite a bit yeah I I will say one hero I think should be making
his way up is the keeper the light we saw in the last series I I feel like 7.4
came out right people were figuring out what looks good and Kata was one of the
ones that I thought was like this looks good people were playing in qualifiers
it was having a pretty high contest rate and then it just stopped I it
didn't get nerfed you could say there were indirect nerfs like oh
whether heroes get buffed and all that. But I feel like the stage is set for him.
Like some of his favorite pairings are all really good. Tiny, Ember, Storm, all very
good mid picks. Offlaners he enjoys playing with are good. Underlord that we
saw in the last game, like Beast Masters in a decent spot. Teams will pick
Bristleback, right. The Holy Lock is strong. Auras are strong, so the
healing fast paced plays there. I'm surprised he is not being picked up more.
There was like a small moment where we were seeing caudal actually picked
banned a lot. You and I threw like some qualifiers last month. Yeah. And I don't
know what changed. And to be fair, I don't think a lot changed because, you
know, there hasn't been any like super major updates or anything. Yeah, I am.
I'm also, you know kind of surprised there with you. I do think
Maybe it's something that teams are kind of hiding like maybe they don't want to give up the coddle too yet too much yet
Like the recall facet is good, but it's not as
Strong as it used to be we're seeing a lot more solar bind
I'm really glad that booms just honing in over here. Maybe he's gonna play some king in yeah
I'm wondering, you know, what he's what he's training for is okay. He's like guys triple 20s brew master
Yeah, they're saying I wonder what he's gonna play. It's like it's just actually brew master
But you know, maybe maybe he's training for the Ricky sleeping dart, you know to come back
So the hero is not good. He could be maybe he knows something he actually rebinds it
He doesn't have a key for it's the bullseye on his dart and he has to like turn
He's like it's the only way to make this ability fairs like I have to turn land a bullseye to activate my ability
Man, I really want Ricky to be good man. I really do. It's it's really sad seeing this hero
You guys don't have to get to see this when Ricky and I aren't casting and Ricky gets picked Ricky always messages me to
Despair's like look at this Ricky look at it not do well. Why won't they buff this hero?
Then it's so sad man. I just want like it's one of my favorite heroes of all time
I have such an insane stat rate on or stat line on this hero, and it's just I
Played him like twice. I played him maybe like five times in the last five years
Like that's how bad this hero has been like it's actually really sad
Yes, his best role right now is as
Support with the smokescreen shard because it helps prevent saves which on paper such a ridiculous power and the fact that
that it's still not really good enough is kind of wild. Yeah. He's just bad in lane. He's
bad in team fights like outside of smoke screen. Like if you have anything to reveal him, he
dies because he has 900 health, you know, because all he could afford was a treads wand
and shard and he's like 900. 15 minutes into the game. You're like, Oh, okay. Yeah. I
I don't know. He's a he's an interesting one
All the pub players out there are very happy not to see him. I'm sure though. No, they still see him though
They still see him the everything we're talking about is only about
Like pro dota, you know the pubs are still dealing with the Ricky's with the diffusals and the Daedalus is
All of that they're getting they're being got by Ricky. They're like, what did what are they talking about?
See this hero, all right don't see this hero and then I do what he kills me
There if I see a carry Ricky on that any team bro red Joyce freest game of my life
literal like actual freest game of my life, I don't know that
that is
easy clap
That's the nature of pubs verse pros. Yeah
We'll see I mean we're not gonna see that hero
Probably again this tournament. I realized if I don't think it's very very likely to come out even against like the saves of like heroes
like Shadow Demon or against heroes like Pock.
I think there's just a lot of.
There's just too many good actual heroes
that are good in the game.
So let's jump into our draft year for Liquid versus a mouse.
And I think to start things off,
we're going to see some bands on the Shadow Demon
and the Triant.
And then we'll see the Huskar band come out probably
right away.
There we go.
I was going to say, what are they even pretending?
Go ahead, do it.
You know you're going to ban Huskar Razor, and Viper is most likely of the third.
Maybe the next two bans will influence that.
Shadowfiend.
What else? You want to ban Largo?
Or are we wrapping around? It's like, oh, Largo's not that good. Don't ban it.
I mean is three and what eleven or something three and eight three and eight. I think not great. They get rid of the viper
It makes sense very strong hero
Do they ban the brew master is the real question are they gonna ban the brew master do they want to ban something like the jikiro
Or do you just keep giving boom brew master you could also take out Chen because you don't yeah
It was the celery chen you right good Paul tofu. Okay tofu has tried but I think like
If you compare tofu Chen to celery Chen like there's a difference
Sellers been playing it for years and tofu is still in the process of switching over to like a true position five
I've been stealing your secrets the whole time like this guy's pretty good at that hero
It is true
First pick, Dario for Mal is a very safe, reliable opener.
It would be okay with the jacquero here personally.
You could also look for the tusk, so here are that they really like to take.
Or you could go for an interesting, kind of like a more aggressive pick into an immediate
you know, ban to protect, right?
Since you do have some bans into the next pick as well.
Get that Largo.
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
No Shadowfiend to pair it with, but there are still plenty of options.
Regardless, it's just an incredible hero for Liquid.
Both these guys play it really well.
Wonderful.
Well, Mouse doesn't really strike me as a keeper of the Light team.
They are a fast pace team, but they're like a caveman fast team, you know, just like run
at you type heroes more than, ooh, mid-mechs, farm stacks, you know, go around that way.
The Muerta man, interesting.
Muerta Tusk is actually pretty annoying in terms of support duo, but it is a potential
carry pick you could go for with the Tusk.
If you have seen a little bit, you've seen a little bit of Carrie Muerta, this event.
Bound the Windranger as well, something that Kay has had a lot of success on.
Also a potential flex for, for Boxy, so.
Yeah.
Really taking out some of those flex options to perhaps make the draft a little easier
for you.
I'm wondering, I don't know, like clinks, are they thinking about clinks that they
They don't want to deal with those potential carry matchups.
Well, Nisha had such a great time on the Lush Rack earlier.
Might as well just go back for it, no problem there.
They banned out the Dragon Knight.
So it gives them, this is somewhat favorable matchup.
You have the tusks to save the Lesh as well.
We've seen some teams kind of try and respond
to the tusk with things like Grimstroke.
I don't know if it's something
Maus is really that interested in playing though.
just brew master guys you know you want to you know you want to
Underlord I think also should be in consideration. I think underlords just good in general right
now. There's definitely something liquid likes to play. I don't feel like mouse likes
to play it as much but I know they can and I know they have so or at least it's just
not something they've done as recently this in these like best of ones. They've had
options taken they don't do it. I feel like in the past they played it more.
They want a safe matchup into the left track in that mid lane.
I like the queen of pain personally. It's again, let's use it kind of a safe
safe or match up in the mid lane, not something that can be easily punished by Lash, like he
doesn't get a ton of free mana from the Chronoptic nourishment, like he's not against a melee
hero so maybe he goes for, I was going to say maybe he goes for the Santhorpea, maybe
not against the pugnath so.
I guess I'm starting to understand that more to ban a little bit more.
Yeah.
Kind of odd one.
This, yeah I'm trying to see, this trap is a little strange to me.
Pugna Tiny are decent supports.
Fairly active.
Did I feel like you just pick a hyper aggressive off lane that can just dive, right?
Yeah.
your offline sounds like it's gonna own I'll be honest might depend on the
carry I'll see what they grab okay actually the Largo pretty good Queen of
Pain dagger removed Pugna ethereal removed and you just want to like run
around with Leshrac boom I guess amazing I want something that enables the
Lesh a little bit more than Largo I don't think it's not that I think Largo
doesn't do that you better know but I feel like there are other heroes we've seen that have done
a better job of just like giving a lush heroes to play around honestly they've played make make a
lush rack before so they go the ember spirit marana and this gives you a very like okay our biggest
complaint about the marana in our last series that there was no setup and I did mention I was
like I think that he dragon knight or an ember spirit for the mid lane and then they don't pick either so you have no
There's no real low cooldown setup for the arrow
This time you have tusk with snowball shards
You have lush with split earth and you have ember spirit with searing chains and searing chains is the main one that you're gonna
Be playing around because with the chain getting facet
We see ember spirits end up putting four points in those searing chains
Way earlier than it used to be right. It's like a 4 1 4 build. So mm-hmm
This gives you a very easy arrow follow-up also pugna kind of just stands still when you're doing the life drain shenanigans
So that's an easy target to go for the arrow you at least cancel the life drain or you get the stun
Yeah, you also picked this pugna to try to act like a save and then the lush racks like thank you
I will now kill you faster
Not actually, but right. He just isn't bothered by
the pug not all well I mean the the the Ward is annoying but I think as a core
Lashrack you pick up enough items to tank up and then get to the BKB where you
can start ignoring the pug not pretty quickly I'm just saying it's actually a
pretty good Largo game going to the offline Largo could say how about
off lane Largo would you tell you you all just run together in a real like if
you're playing carry lush rack you're playing very fast I think that's one of
the most straightforward ways to go with that kind of draft and Largo does it
slow to get the eggs and then just non-stop run dispell bat rider all of
his napalms it's actually kind of good but I think the other way you could go
is just locked down from your off-lane locked out for us and then the last
thing is like I'm telling you chat guys it's actually pretty good in this this
draft I think Abaddon is a consideration the offline Abaddon and then
Beastmaster could be another route you take I think underlord is also quite good
even though doesn't give you a stun yeah you have you have really good stuff
for the pit you have an easy Crimson Guard pipe build this game you can
rejoin the team globally. I also think that an axe could go really hard here. It's not
as strong as we saw maybe in some of the previous iterations, but I do think anytime you're playing
as a bat rider, if this ends up being like a boom bat rider in the off lane, which
I think it is, I think it's gonna be off lane bat rider for position Tiny, fight
position pugna you need some sort of like damage over time and slow when he's
you know popping that firefly and acts is pretty good at that okay do you wrap
back around now you're like oh you're carried last track well jokes on you
this is actually carried Queen of Pain and now we all the best ones are banned
though. What do you shut down this ember with?
That's a good point. It could be Kerry Queen of Pain. I mean,
you're going to run Kerry Lush, run Kerry Queen. It's happened.
We've seen it.
Yeah, but I don't know who is worth it to take there is the
thing. Like if you could Huskar them, Razor Viper, Monkey
King, those are all out, you know.
Uh, stay down there, bro. They're going under lord. They're going under lord.
That's that's gonna be the hero.
Good jokes on you. We go under lord.
Yeah, I was gonna say, what if they just go mid bat and carry co-op and pick an under lord? Do you have zero?
What offline options do you have left?
They do. They actually do it.
They actually do it. I didn't say I don't know what other options you have.
So they take the Underlord for
themselves. It'll be Batrider.
I mean, I have seen Underlord
Mid as well. You could actually
run this mid Underlord into
Ember into Ember damage. Yeah,
it is a favorable matchup for
the Lord. You can break the
flame guard pretty reliably,
and you have way more damage to
last day with. I think this.
I'm trying to remember who did
it. I'm pretty sure it was
whisper when he was in his
bit where they have been playing Underlord in the mid lane versus certain matchups and
I remember Ember Spirit being one of them so um mid one likes weird heroes yeah
Tidehunker. Tide was the Underlord mid. Tide was another one I had roughly thought about
depending on what carry comes out but uh looks like after the Underlord got stolen I still
think you need someone who builds auras who like goes fast and uh Tide is kind of one of those
what's that are left really so they're going carry underlord then right I will
do one of the teams like guys mid one you're supposed to carry that carry that
do it do it do it and now they're like panicking like guys what do we do we lock
the wrong hero crystals is leaning as often he's like no I mean he's played
carry underlord in the past it's not so it's not that surprising to me
Christmas is played carry on the Lord a few times. Tank boys up top. Yeah that's a
big boy lane. So we'll see how they manage to play. Yeah we'll see how they
managed to play this Bat Rider lane because it is gonna be into the Shrack
which isn't like the easiest hero for Bat Rider to abuse right like if you
try to go for like a dive you can just get caught from the split earth and take a lot of damage from edict
So I don't think it's gonna be super easy
But bad writers a lot of times can just ignore the lane like once you have like level four ish
Maybe level five you kind of just start dragging the wave similar like what acts and sent hard you sometimes and you just
farm it in the jungle next to some jungle creeps and
One of the benefits of the off lane Batrider that we're seeing now it is
Yeah, I think it kind of would have been nice if Pugna could have gone there to play into
the Leshrac, because the Nether Ward is pretty annoying in the laning stage.
But I think you needed the melee tiny to pair with it, and then you don't want like tiny
plus...
I'm just going to say, it's going on over there with that, you know?
So I think you got to put the Pugna down there.
They should be an interesting one. We got some wacky drafts here. I love it
Hmm. I know we said this would go fast and I feel it should like in one of these lineups get going
But when too early draft lineups
Maybe don't like they go even
Then it goes late, you know
Woo, I love it. Like a don't sign up. All right. We got ourself
the tight hunter
Who's that larga it was a this they knew all along
he was
Largo was in chat
Largo, but I love that. He actually does the dispel when
Blower activates I see I see that makes sense
We've got ourselves a carry the track versus a carry
underlord
Fun game, I mean we've we've seen both these teams play these heroes before right this isn't like super
this isn't like anything out of the wheelhouse for these two teams by any means but I love
kind of where they took their drafts it's going to be interesting for sure in terms of the facets
I am mostly curious about the Marana one he went the leaps and bounds which I have never seen
anyone make use of this facet as opposed to the uh the blinding uh like star storm facet so
I'll tell you what I'll tell you why
I also am not a huge fan of this one, but you are running double-ranged with
The the less rack you need something to set up split earth and so is that
Leave into root you run backwards while he stuns with a split earth and then you launch the arrow
I see I see I see okay, so it's like arrowing with extra steps
I mean, this is kind of an odd lane, right? I don't really think the tiniest could be a little accomplished too much, just because Marana actually has pretty good attack range, really good harassment early, does typically still go star storm level one, so not going to be a super fun lane for Yamich.
really good harassment early does typically still go star storm level one so
not gonna be a super fun lane for Yamich boxy's sal instantly dies on the way to
the lane boom hold up
yeah they're just gonna dump all their resources here trying to shut this way
of get an early level two and then maybe capitalize off those leaps and
balance like you were talking about.
I love it too might be too soon though, because you're not going to have
diabolic to eat it if you're comboing it with the splitter.
All right. Well, mid lane, we've got ourselves the Ember and the Queen of Pain
matchup. This one is a lot more even than I think people remember.
You don't really want to go dagger against Ember spirit because you can
dodge it sometimes but it also just his flame guard will out sustain the dagger most of the
time and he just shoves the wave if you go dagger and you don't have scream of pain so
later levels like levels like four and five maybe start tipping back in favor of the
clot but the first couple waves ember is going to do this line
top we've got some mega creep dragging going on
Underlord does have way more damage than a tide, which is uncommon to say, but even with the anchor smash
Atrophy aura just gives enough of an advantage over to Underlord
So they just don't want to directly lane, especially because it's double melee into the pugna
Who's like one of the most annoying range supports out there for how fast and how long his attack range is
Yeah, and Underlord does quite well into both abuse, right?
like playing near firestorm and stuff is not gonna feel fun at all so they end up
just dragging it under the tower it's gonna force the actually they had a
double wave so it should have to keep the equilibrium there yeah they're here
for for a little bit until salary managers get a pull off but that time
is coming up so it should be okay oh actually the cam for blocking earlier I
forgot so she will stay up I think box is on the way to block the hard camp
again. Uh, it'll have to be the small camp. Easy. Get in there. Get in there. Yeah. Easy
at both. Yeah. Very nice to run. Uh, mid lane, the queen of paint is actually quite
well CS wise 13 and seven a little bit more denies than I would have expected, but not
struggling much at all. And overall lanes going pretty well for the side of mouse.
All right, tell me do we have the leaps and bounds online yet or we do okay. It's ready
No, Sando level four level four on Lushrack. We need one level and the full combo is ready
Lynch toss on the bat rider
That was it. That was the leap right there. You had it to be fair if you leaps onto a bar rider. You might just die
But maybe Nikkei would have killed him.
I am genuinely curious to see how they utilize it.
This isn't like a...
Like I know we're kind of like poking fun of it.
It's just I've never seen a team actually be able to utilize this.
So I'm...
I want to see it get used well.
Oh no, not your curry. You're not a good...
Not a good...
...boxy.
Okay, you got it this time.
Nice little low.
Maybe you could rotate someone in here.
Leaps and bounds.
Mm-hmm
Just try to get blasts again. I think you are waiting to play around the ember really
He's doing okay in the mid lane taking a little bit of a beating from the queen of pain, but that's unavoidable
He's doing all right when he gets level six you play with him
Nice decrypt to stop the pole very smart from celery there
They just need to get this wave as far close like as far the tower as possible because ace can't play near the underlord
right like
Even though even if you anchor smash him
He's still gonna have a damage advantage over you and then you're sitting in firestorm
So it just is a super painful aim to this guy
Really nice dodge there on the mid lane of Nisha it's a little bit of harassment out towards the queen of pain
But she gets even more to die. Oh man
12 the nice now really really good stuff out of the quad
Pretty low though. She has to go
Go find a room somewhere if you want a gay the six minute room. I might be first bloods gonna close. No the Lotus keeps him alive
Good attempt though from but this boss what bot lane both of them
I think boxy barely walked around the board. Yeah, it's about to expire so they're gonna lose the vision on the bot lane
I did turn back around for the six minute rune though I
Yeah time to punish bottom
I think you need to prioritize his power rune
The biggest pain is going to be luck whether you get it to spawn bottom or not
Let's say Queen of Pain gets level six off that wave
It spawns top so it's gonna do a shield rune
It's not the most dangerous rune for the Queen of Pain to get but it does mean it's
Pretty much impossible for you to find a kill on her while she has that bottled
You don't have like the damage getting ready to dive.
Shielding is gonna be perfect for this.
He just got level 6, so he can play around this.
Shackles out on the top side. Queen of Pain holding.
The Sonic wave for now.
And it looks like Nisha will just keep me back.
Has his Remnant to rejoin the fight.
Marana takes down the Catapult.
Heads up play there.
And Nisha's back in. Ready to go.
Just do a little bit of chip damage as he rejoins the mid lane.
Has little leaves and bounds right there.
Is that it? Okay, okay.
I'm just never paying attention to that. I thought they could kill the queen of pain if he leaps and bounds it
Okay
All right time to head bottom for leaps and bounds this is it make a skip splitter I
Mean you pretty much need to max lightning storm on this here. All right, I guess you're farming and in like kill threat
But the leaps and downs Ricky.
It's okay, that's for later.
The late game facet is why getting a root on this ability is nice, but the other facet
has already had like eight instances of use at this point, which is why those are the
facets that are typically better.
Remnant angle, but maybe unwilling to actually commit deeper than that.
So yeah, I mean they saw the shield rune popped like you're not getting that kill
realistically, so there's no reason to commit a bunch of spells. Even with leaps and bounds?
This is where it got stuck. Yavitch, and boom, still just hanging out on the Bat Rider. I will
say I'm surprised at how high level this Marana is right now. She's been able to soak a lot of
XP on the map. Like already five and a quarter and we haven't even hit the
8-minute mark and leaps and bounds.
There's a bounce!
I don't think the arrow's done the last three.
The arrow's not hit anyway.
This is where the slight change in the arrow is always very good.
But you did get the roots.
You know, the root and the arrow connected.
Just long enough.
Okay, you know what?
Yeah, we're being shown the root did last through the end of the kill, so we'll
take it.
Leaps and bounds is doing it.
Leaps and bounds?
He could turn. Leap into Firefly?
Overall, really good find onto the Queen of Pain.
He's just taking her off the map.
Yeah, Ember is on the way. You don't have Firefly anymore.
Simple chains into Arrow here is a pretty easy kill.
There it is. Now comes Mikkei, the rotation in from the Underlord as well, Celery.
going to try and buy himself a little bit of time but mcgay will burn him down
they managed to kite their way out of the pain malice and ember survives
completely mid one might get a really good sonic wave angle but now the good
leap away they'll lose boxy a two for one overall as the underlord will tee
you back into the top lane. We're all pretty good for Liquid, I think that bottom exchange,
but Crystalis is getting a lot of space top and then just using the Under the Ward ult
to show up like a global hero. Ouch. Oh, are you dead? Yeah, it's a dead. That's
Rupert that is dead, actually.
Snowball, bottom lane, looking for boom here.
Strap in the shards.
Yeah, this is what I was saying, like, even if you don't have the Ember,
you have other heroes to play around with the Murana arrow,
and we're seeing it this game, quite a lot of impact.
We'll take out the Batrider.
Continue to play aggressive here on Liquid.
Five skills now on the board is a 10-minute power runes about to spawn,
and mid-1 doesn't think he can contest,
So Illusion Rune for Nisha.
Ace is here dude, he's got a Rage.
Oh well.
Now we're just gonna take the Tiny, have a 4 level 4 Tiny.
Something, this is a Catapult wave coming in here.
Oh he tried to use TP out, so I think you can defend this if you bring the heroes.
It seems like they don't want to though.
I guess they want to wait for the Batrider to hit his drums.
He had to crack and swell, select it on the Tidehunter really early, but ended up swapping
it to the Krill Eater now in Heal and Eater.
Yum yum yum.
I'll tell you what though, I was thinking, the longer this game goes, I think Underlord
does outscale the carry flesh rack.
But you know who else can scale into a pseudo-carry Tidehunter?
And then that might be some of the ideas of this crew leader, for when they go for another hour-long game.
The facet got nerfed, but Blubber effects trigger, anchor smash is still pretty good,
and does so much uncontrollable damage on the side of Maus.
And if you decide to end up like, paving over Tidehunter damage...
Leaps and bounds! Leaps and bounds is there, but nice avalanche toss.
Sonic Wave manages to dodge it at the last second on the Marana, so Sonic Wave...
and
not gonna
turn anything there but they at least keep the speed of paint alive for now
top lane ace is becoming a little bit of a menace
level nine on the tide hunter chrysalis here
on the space slug trying to close the gap maybe push this tide hunter away
it's not looking good for salary I'll be honest
it's got the drain you don't want to ravage that to stop
it would send a message though
message sent hello old captain not much you can do there they bring a whole team
five heroes from liquid top full attack mid lane here on that this embers
actually runs into mid one that's a ton of damage in there with the new
they compute the spirit about it
Yamich yonking a regen remid one would very much like to pick that up right
about now, but that top tier one tower should end up dropping momentarily.
Tofu is in trouble. Get some in my shadow, do they have detection?
Oh they do! Tofu is dead. Yeah, smoldering resin or even just the damage from the
under Lord will eventually finish the kill.
I don't, was he like in a shot?
I feel like he just walked into that right.
I think he stepped up too close.
If he'd just stepped a little further,
I don't think he would've died, but.
They're bringing heroes.
Ace is in the middle of this fight.
Looking to maybe sort of find onto
Chrisless Ember from the back.
Now on the backside, rotation in.
Snowball, Spirit Vessel.
I hear a ravage as well has caught someone,
but both supports starting off the play in a pretty rough shape.
Nisha will get the other.
Underlord manages to TP out,
but really good finds from Liquid.
Staying aggressive.
Ace was struggling at top lane versus the Underlords,
but these last series of plays,
he is caught back up in network,
despite not having the global ability.
Usually the farming efficiency goes the way of an Underlord,
but ace one zero and two still finding about a hundred and ten last it's keeping up with the under the word you cannot afford to lose this wisdom shrine you're gonna lose this wisdom shrine though I mean
Tire doesn't have Ravage, but he can basically stand there indefinitely.
We'll see. They find a Quaintane, hit of Malus though, buying some space.
Avalanche gets the toss out of the jump away, and now Micky has over-committed instead.
It's a one-for-one trade.
He managed to secure the wisdom shrine, boom, trying to chase after A's with the help of Celery.
And it looks like the Tire Hunter might be the next casualty here,
As they will toss in Chrisless tries to find it gets a nice arrow on the mark
Pit of Malus comes down another fire storm and that will do it.
Nisha however still looking pretty strong here in this fight one more Vessel
Charger to use it with the help of Boxy gets it on the Chrisless gonna have two
more charges to play around now cool down up in three seconds if he can
survive for now no boom gets the kill here comes Mickey back from the dead
as he's looking to baby punish this super long fight playing inside the
bit of mouse but celery not gonna be able to do it now so if I started it like 13
and a half minutes the wisdom shrine did go to mouse yeah it's definitely a one
fight for them I think overall I think so but not a terrible loss for
of liquids since they were able to get some of our turn kills and force everyone from
mouse over into this corner. But I suppose when you're already 3k ahead, you know, you
were hoping for a better fight there. I think someone that just tried to do a little bit
too many things at once, like they wanted the 2-1, they wanted the wisdom trine, and
they also wanted to get mid-1. That's bullying man, come on. They scouted the
TP of the Pogda just instantly arrowed the death
It's kind of a bold TP. I think when he flossed all your tier ones
I was gonna say that's the one thing I'm noticing is liquid
I'm all making trouble about that
Oh, okay. Hit a mouse coming through. Nikkei in a lot of trouble here cannot survive this
Chrysler's hitting hard with that mask of madness
Mask of madness echo harpoon almost done now thanks to that gold and when he finishes up this tower
He will have the money
Queen of Pain has mech going for Guardian Greaves, I think.
Yeah, because the orb is on the board, it's going right click.
Yeah, it's like when you have searing chains and stuff like that as well, you need to be able to get away from the arrow.
Tofu?
It'll be okay.
I think if you make leaps and bounds root from where you're standing as well, it becomes good.
Like then you can leap away and arrow back.
I think I'm gonna be pretty good make it similar to like the Queen of Pain shard
Yeah, yeah exactly
All right, he's very aggressive here going through that could be a rabbit to follow us
Let's get the Guardian Greaves to spell at the perfect time because that would have been a potential disaster
And they'll take their own word. They don't want to give that
I like it. They're baiting me last year. They're looking for they go in here comes boxy grabs them right away boom trying to
Survive this for now, but the slows are enough and now they turn their attention to tiny all the split earth
connects I thought he was gonna maybe pull the ravage but may get to hold it
that means they'll have it for Roshan if they want to try it for that
I try to get mid one he does not stick around long enough otherwise leaps and
bounds into ravage could have killed him there
16 to 6 only a 4,000 gold lean as Chrysalis on this Underlord continues to
find a lot of farm. Kind of the nature of this hero, right, when you play it as a carry.
He's just Sven, right, in essence. He's like another version of Sven.
Yeah, I mean Underlord's in a good spot, but his teammates are struggling.
Ace maybe is less good of a spot, but does have the rabbit.
Glover, nice to spell. There's the Ravage. Connects, Aero's going to come through.
It somehow splits between three, but mid one survives barely for now, but they will
Look at the Adelaide, the Toss, takedown, the Tiny Nisha.
Still very strong here, gets to change the Vessel,
and that will finish off the Queen of Pain.
And now it's down.
No way to really keep him in place.
This Hacer is doing way too much work,
and now they found, boom, the collapse of Liquid
on the other side of the fight.
In comes Chrysalis, though.
Try and takedown these heroes.
And man, does he hit hard.
Like, can you deal with Nisha's Ember,
or do they even want to stick around?
We'll see. Star store. Shard block. Chains. No, they're not going to stick around. They
will leave. They don't want to attempt the fates here.
Nisha, that being said, will instantly kill Celery again. This is getting unfair. Stop
it, guys. Please. Let him play the game.
I don't know if he mined too much, I mean part of the reason that last fight worked out relatively well for Malz is that they over committed on the Celery trying to prevent his abilities from entering the fight and
because of that the other two got to live and turn their damage between a fan and the Underlord.
Nisha, he's dead here, he's got no remnants available.
Yandrillich still has a lot of the damage from that last fight.
Yeah, I think it lasts a while.
He's got a brand new reset, some extra damage there for him.
Yeah, this fight, so they tried to over-commit onto the Pugna, like that's where the arrow was going.
What if you arrow either Underlord or Queen of Pain, one of them dies, I think, without being able to do anything.
Yeah, I mean they end up getting QWOP, but it takes a little bit more of a commitment from Misha.
And that, you know, little bit of extra remnant commit ends up killing him here, if you think about it.
Like he'd have another remnant or two to play around in these fights.
So funny to me some of the reason mouths are struggling to find fights is because
That writer doesn't really build blink as offline at least not right. Oh, wait
We go for mentor fight ace has the fight blubber is gonna dispel him for now
But they put a really good bit of mouse to block off the escape ace can't wait 10 seconds for rabbit
Oh my gosh, it's gonna be so close. It's just gonna try to be a safety, but the last so is there
They've got two heroes
Liquid could not can test
That's the perfect pit.
And that will be Core Mentor swinging this game back.
Now it's going to be dead even, even slightly in favor for the dire now.
There it is.
Shard of the Omics.
That's an unfortunate one.
Don't really care too much about the Tiny Shard, but...
The Pugna Shard's actually not that much better, so maybe it's fine.
That one helps out cause Malz finally has an initiator.
The tiny has finished the blink.
Oh, which is what I was saying right before that.
The Batrider does not build a blink.
So you just have a bunch of people trying to run in
and that's really hard versus Chain Gang, Ember, Tusk,
Lasharite, Alden-Zeros.
They get the DKB.
The DKB done.
Yeah, they were trying to force it
and well, force it, you did.
Yeah, just for a Tusk kill is not that bad.
You think you don't mind too much?
Yeah.
I mean, you need to slow down the Underlord, though.
And now he's just going to go farm safely
on the corners of the map.
And while he waits for that BKB to cool down,
you'll have Fiend's Gate up in a moment.
Mid-Lite found the Ember spirit,
toss on over.
Do they have the lasso?
They do!
He didn't get a remnant out!
Can he survive, Nisha?
He's at snow-blooming speed.
He can't go anywhere.
Tofu will steal away the shield rune,
has one leaf charge left, hiding in the trees here.
the
day of the pressure here on
the plane in the one-
I think it's not a good start.
They start having a good start.
But I feel like they've struggled to connect all the pieces after that.
I guess up to the 14 minute mark is where it was good and then they over committed
once on that shrine and it gave mouths enough space that they've caught back up.
sacrificial at this point honestly you're just drawing the attention of
liquid with these kind of plays and giving space to the rest of the game
look at the map everyone else is pushing out the other lanes they're fine
to be fair he almost got the tower it's one one tap away from dying so you
know like you said Space Maid almost gets an objective is what it is the
queen of pain scaling is going to be there now that she has discarding
use Kaia going for the Aghanim Scepter, right? Like, it's not as easy for them to kill the
Quap anymore. They were very much just relying on the chains into Arrow, which isn't reliable
anymore thanks to the Guardian Greaves. So you kind of need the Shard from the Tidehunter
or like a Blink Ravage, and you don't really have either, right? He's going Aghanim
Scepter, which I think is a really good tool for them in this game, but...
I kind of wish it was dead in the water first, like you said though.
24 minute power rune, bout to spawn smoke up here from Liquid.
Gonna sip themselves on this top rune.
Mid one. Holy blinks and aggressively didn't see the Tidehunter.
Can't actually find the kill though. Ravage does connect, but he's being saved out by the pugnip for now.
The Murwana, the first to die and now being dragged into the pit, the Sonic Wave is there,
Nisha trying his best to survive, going back and through pots, every run and he hasn't.
Well, Mikkei just gets destroyed by Boone, just burns him down on the bar rider, they
find the Nisha, they find the tie, now Boxy the sole survivor and he makes it out,
but a massive win.
Four mouths, he ends up losing the clock, but what a turnaround.
I think this is the second or third fight where they're not quite connecting with Mikkei
in these fights and he built Guardian Breeze, you know he's like part of the Auras and then
part of the burst coming out with Diabolok, he did all the AoE damage but that whole fight
kind of resolves like we'll see here, he's still by the tier 2 and he has to run in
and the build is different, like you no longer have the blink on the Leshrac so
you can't get here as quickly so like you can see where Queen of Pain easily
would have died with the extra let's rack damage. Yeah, I mean, it's there's a couple
things that were so close, but you can see right now, like this is the area where this
bat rider just shuts down this Lashrak like Lash would end looked like it was going to
be a good fight for him. And then he's just he's got the arsonist bastard. He pops the
boots of bearing and puts like 10 immediate stacks of napalm on the on the Lashrak.
It took a while to reach this point, but now Maus is online.
They have the tools they need.
It's a very farmed ponderlord.
8,000 gold advantage.
One of the first major advantages we've seen this game, mid one.
Close to make a play here on the mid game.
Mike might be able to find him.
Avalanche toss the hard pool.
All sorts of weird directions being thrown around.
but Chryslis will get the kill.
His underlord hits really hard,
and his boxy now just has to find a safe place
to TP home, maybe he'll go cut away.
Oh!
Ooh, that was close.
Very close.
Chryslis is so scary to be honest.
I
300 damage coming up here one more camp I
Mean yeah, it's again you might be able to force his BKB, but I don't know how you kill this guy got 3,500 HP
You do not and if you don't instantly kill him he will instantly kill you in a heart here in which
Exactly like that
Alright, this is where Liquid now has to play, on defensive, until they get into the ultra
late game, essentially.
Like Tidehunter needs to scale up, essentially, because I don't think this game should come
from Lashrack anymore.
I don't think Ember's doing enough.
Tide must become Underlord.
you need 20 minutes to do that.
Can the tide become underlord?
I don't think so.
We'll see the perfect fit of Malice here once again placed as ace tries his runaway, pops the rabbit,
turning on to the pugna with boxy coming in.
Maybe they have an option, but nah, I just intercepted my big one and boom, they get the kill.
Pugna lives through it all thanks to the pipe.
It's looking grim here for liquid.
They have ran out of damage
4,000 damage done by the underlord he he has plenty to spare if he'd like to lend any to liquid
You know, I don't think I'll do that
I don't think he's a pretty nice guy. Is he you think underlords a nice guy?
Yeah, he's like he I'm so nice. I'm gonna drop my gavel in front of your base. Here you go like take this
friends. Here you go. Crystal, let's show them. Drop your Daedalus.
Sorry, I was trying to go for an AC next, just to have a little more fun with it.
You're already killing people so fast at this point you're working on the
buildings. I guess you do have Arsonist Batriders, so if you don't want to walk
up you could just napalm spam the buildings down. Yeah. But I think
they're pretty impossible to deal with. I think they just want to clean up
some more tier two towers since you still have three and a half minutes on this ages
there's no need
He has a remnant to safety as well, so he'll be fine. That's a nice little play there for Misha
So you have the agonum scepter on Tidehunter. He's going for the blink dagger
I'm still concerned because I just don't know if
If you have damage with this, I don't know if this actually solves any of your damage issues,
even if you get the blink initiation, they're gonna find the tiny here.
The pipe is out, they're gonna look for the un-
Okay, tofu pops the pipe, they pop the mech, or the stick, everything to try and keep
him alive as Boom and Chrysalis were in pursuit.
Pyjax is great at slowing down the game because you spam it out from so far, you kill off the creep waves.
Fight five heroes here, no tiny.
He's underlord the one you want to run into.
I mean, you've got to pray that you get the right rune here, it's gonna spawn top, you get the courier kill,
that means they know exactly where you are and they are now in a position where they're underlord.
I think the ravenous can be finished off the bat rider, they can.
Now jump on over towards the pungent but there's the hard food pulse, Mickey in place, the VKB's gonna keep him alive for now.
But again, you've got to get out of the way, just chop some down, three hits, and that's it, Sonic Blade will take out Nisha as well and Chrysalis in pursuit now.
With Alp of Mid one looking for Tofu, he's got to leap away, so he should be fine.
But my god, dude.
You thought you're like, oh, we can surely kill him before the Underlord kills me. You would be dead wrong
Mickey was gonna live and could hug the edge of the fight a little longer
I feel like he'd path back into the Underlord. He was trying to get a pugna, right?
He was chasing the pugna on the pugna, just brought him right back in range
I
Watch out crystal is still less of damage from that last fight
Lover does not save you against this beyond godlike for chrysalis
11 0 and 11
Yeah, look, I mean it's really the plug-nose pathing here just watch this one
like he's okay here you know now you just hug the edge like you don't have
to run that close I feel yeah especially when you know crystals is
popping off so I don't know that something funny there happened back in
real-time Crystal is trying to destroy them hide the ages still so you might
get the first life he doesn't mind being here at all chains on the three
That's a meat maybe when he responds so we can get across from the last hole. Great post back there
With that flame break from boom and no God. Oh God
Well
Underlord has
Enough damage. How does he only have 200 damage after that fight? He died his life
His life, his death reset his damage. He'd be sitting like 400 right now
Otherwise, he never put him out, does get the remnants, but he's in the wrong side of the base now
And it's just one more auto attack from Chris was to blame another
See he's got the damage just there
Go ahead Chris the list
Have to man
This is pretty well done from mouse I
Will say they struggled a little bit to start and I think liquid actually could have won this
I didn't they pushed a bit too hard of that 14 minute wisdom trying
Yeah, and then a couple other fights after that
It would have worked that they had never slipped up at the 14 minute wisdom shrine
But once you have it right didn't they already commit the ravage right before that is that what it was?
I can't quite remember, but there's like a snowball of events after that 14 one where
Things just didn't go wrong. I mean the greatest ravaged hero change chains into a five-year-old ravage
This is the best possible chance. They're gonna get to take these heroes down the crystals. This is too damn strong, man
What are you doing ultra kill for the space slug? Where's the last one?
Get him chrysalis!
Oh my god, an absolute symphony from Liquid. It looks so good. A five-year-old chase.
Five-year-old ravage, chrysalis is like, yes, please deliver yourself to death door.
I'll take that any day.
This was a good showcasing of what the Underlord carry can do.
It's very good.
Crystal's had the best game.
He's the most calm after that.
Everyone else is really excited.
He's just like another day in the Underlord carry, which is weird.
It's definitely out there, but it can farm very fast
and still show up to fights.
Thanks to the feed area, finally a little bit of a smile coming out.
You can still show up to all the fights and so you just get really farmed.
and you see like you just need to win one fight you show up with the damage from
farming then you pop into the fight with the fiends gate you pick up even more
damage once you win that fight you go to the buildings with bonus 300 damage
right yes you capitalize on these winning fights so well as the
Underlord and I will say like this is Chris was like the only person he
like kind of originated the carry Underlord earlier that I guess in
like mid like halfway through the year when they were experimenting with different types of heroes in the carry roll
Chris was the one that brought underlord carry kind of into the meta a little bit
So it's a hero he's very comfortable with like this isn't a super, you know out of left field type of pick
You know, this is something that they've they've practiced and played
But I also think just looking at the draft in general when we were looking at what liquid wanted on that 24th
I think they did want the underlord
So like not only does this give mouse a hero that they can play and in a good game
but it denies the Underlord pick for Liquid,
which I think ultimately is kind of what they were aiming for.
And they're scraping the barrel, like,
I guess we go Tidehunter, and Ace played well,
but your team's really locking damage.
Yeah, I actually think it was still going to work.
Like, Mao's one of the few teams
that could have stolen that Underlord.
The Tide pick was working.
I just think they did over-commit.
And maybe that's because, yeah,
we were expecting to play around Underlord,
now we're having to pivot a bit.
So it threw them off enough that they kind of gave that one away after a strong start.
But that's how it goes.
We have more games to cover.
We'll see if we get more wacky picks.
That was definitely a fun draft.
We weren't sure how that was going to go, but it was a fun one and I'm sure there are many more to come.
So we'll go to a quick break and we'll see you all after that.
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Welcome back everybody here to Blast Slam 6. We've got another action pack series just about to begin.
We just came off the back of a pretty hype one. Mal's Liquid. We got a carry Underlord with an Ultra Kill 17 and 0 from Chrysler as an absolute master class on his carry.
I don't know, not a lot of people see, not a lot of people maybe remember, but it was fun to watch for sure.
Yeah, I that's so funny 17 to I remember looking at in the end of the game
He's like 11 0 and 11 and then managed to pick up like six more at the end with that
I don't know if liquid really would have held and come back even if they get that team wipe there
But it looked really cool
I love the abilities coming out and then under Lord just healing right back to full health. Thanks to that satanic
We blasts SFM person to come in and make something out of that. That was a fun one to watch
Yeah, that would be a good one
But coming up next we've got Navi versus Yandex and this should be a fun series. We've seen both these teams
Look a little hot look a little cold depending on the the series, but both very action packed with Navi here
I really like the fact that these guys play some unique heroes
not just in the support role, but even
across all of them. Like everything from from juice to to Niku they've got some
kind of special specialties in the back pocket. Yeah I I both like it but then
also sometimes when their drafts look a little funny I feel like it's because
they want to play the heroes they like and like a little special it's like
oh you know this like top meta pick when it just fit the draft a little better
but I kind of respect that you know it's like I want to make the things
that I want work and I appreciate that and sometimes you do just need a little
lucky like yeah the pack buff my heroes nerf the heroes I don't like I do want to
see this team find success and I don't know at what point you have to bend a
little bit to maybe move away from some of those unique pits and you know just
play something more established but when you make it work you make it work
and it looks good. Yeah. And Yandex, we saw them just a couple of hours ago over over here.
I know they played against Reconyx kind of a beatdown. We were not a big fan of the draft. Reconyx
brought to the table, right? It was like a last pick morphing into a tiny caudal, which
for those of you who maybe maybe you're not like a morphing player, but if you've ever had
to play into a tiny mid, it is a living nightmare because you just get jump scared
constantly. And that's exactly what Sharer Jr. did. They just ran around the map looking for this
morphing, punished him constantly, all set up from Soxa on this Keeper of the Light. Really excited
to see what kind of draft they bring to the table this time as we get ready for that. I also
wanted to point out that today's been an interesting day in this, you know, in this group stage
because Liquid beat Navi, then Navi beat Mouse, and now Mouse beat Liquid. So we have like the
perfect trifecta, you know, just
balance in those crazy scripts.
But we're going to finally have a draft out underway
as we want to see the first phase of bands.
No tiny, no brewmaster, no viper,
tree and protector and shadow fiend as we get into the last two bands here for Yandex.
He's first pick for Navi.
Largo.
They do play Largo.
We'll see if they grab it.
I don't think they should just for, well I think you can first pick it but I think as the as the patch continues and settles
I think teams are gonna realize they want it a little later
This hero, I think it just has I think it has situations where it's really good and others where it's just quite mediocre
So you need to see the draft develop a little bit more before you
You go for it
I'm gonna get rid of the bath rider.
Okay, I like that one.
You've seen a lot of fun batter.
This is something they played earlier, PMA on the off-lane bath rider.
As for the first pick, it's gonna be the Shadow Demon.
Still fairly confident in this hero, despite every little bit of nerf that's come his
way.
It still offers so much to the game.
scales incredibly well. I'm curious if they want to go back for the Grimstroke on their
other support because it is something Riddies has played a ton and they like to pair it
with a good amount of like offlane initiators which I think Shadow Demon pairs well with
in the offlane so we'll see what their options are going to be.
I'd say here, Chen would be a great response but Yandex doesn't really play much Chen.
I think this is a tough
Pretty good support as well has your own save with the snowball a lot of aggressive options
Creep drag can be messy though
Which is something you like to fall to if you like playing the off lane is not a great matchup and shout out even
It's pretty good versus that so kind of need to make sure you get a good
Good lane so that you could just play it rather than have to creep drag versus disruption
I don't know if you guys got the chat.
You're right, it's not that they've played a ton, but Malady-
They have played it, so-
Yeah, Malady has played it, so I'm not like super surprised, and I think you're right
for a lot of reasons, like it is just not a hero that Shadow Demon likes to play around.
Let's see, what could Navi be thinking about?
They have done the bristle with the Shadow Demon before.
Uh, could you just like disseminate the bristle and let him run in?
There's actually a lot of offlaners available like the Mars, Centaur.
A lot of these heroes pair quite well with the Shadow Demon because you just disrupt
walk in stun.
T.A.
We don't actually see her band out that much nowadays.
Maybe you are thinking about the centaur?
Feel you get bullied by side blades and meld
I don't know, these like these two supports, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know,
I don't know.
that. I don't know these like these two supports are so open-ended you can kind of like put anything
with them. So it's really up to the teams what style they want to go for. Yeah I was thinking about
it because like TA is a really great pick for Navi that they like to take all the time. It's also
a kind of a niche pick for Watson so I'm kind of curious as to why they would ban it
depending on like what offlaners they have in mind here to pair with the Shadow Demon.
right Beastmaster kind of comes to mind, not like a hero that loves playing into TA.
I do think TA is, okay, let's just get the Dekiro for now.
Largo, okay.
I do think TA is one of the carries that doesn't care too much about Shadow Demon, because
you're arranged, you don't care about the demonic purge as much, and you're not
something like Windranger who loses Windrun you can't remove TA stuff so I think she's fairly safe
most other popular carries right now do not like dealing with Shadow Demon
should we uh summon the council get some Largobas to try and get the boy into the game
get some Largobas I think it's time disruptor okay they actually ran the Shadow Demon disruptor
I think it was the first time
I've ever. Yesterday, if I'm
honest, if it was not, I know
I remember like we covered a
game with the shadow demon
disruptor, and I think it was
them. Yeah, I mean, there's
thousands. Yeah, very, very
good duo. They paired it with
a bristleback. As well as a T
a bat writer. Now obviously T
a bat writer and not
available, but the scaling
potential. These two
like the snowball saves but you need something to set up the fight right like
you need your initiators and you need some damage yeah you need a very
playmaker style mid someone who can't get ganked easily by tusk there's no
hot would have been a good fit actually but any other of the like spear
brothers in the mid lane are probably pretty solid they go back to go mid but
likely to be in one of those side lanes. It was off lane yesterday, right? For Niku?
Or no, Niku played it mid, is what it was. Niku played it mid. In a way, you don't want
to gank Bristle. Even though you can with a Tusk, you're like dealing with the mid
Bristle who's got its back turned to you under his tower. It's not the most fun gank.
But, okay, if you want to run mid, sure. I really still think you need some kind
of Vision Hero to work with Disruptor and although Bristle can just run in he doesn't really provide
much vision I guess you have shadow poison and that's kind of cool but you're also in the back
line with the Disruptor so you're not like upfront finding those uh like the glimpses back or like
Okay, blink static storm here
Yeah into shadow even though I was gonna say is a little bit potentially cursed
And you do have 18th pick here for your off lane on Navi, so they need to do something
To prevent the earth side getting hard countered here. I know it's not
I don't know if you can fit it into the draft.
One of the classic counters to the Ursa is the Venomancer, but you just really don't have
anything to teamfight around if you go Venomancer.
You don't have an actual stun, but I don't think you can pick something like that.
I could see it working if they want to because you just have this line of which you have
to walk into us.
You have to walk into Bristle, Venom, Disruptor.
It's actually so hard if you ban out like some more initiators.
I could see it working if you want to do that.
My only concern is that the Venom answer is not super durable in lane and you actually
have like two strong supports that are decent against him, right?
You have good slows to maybe like close the gap and get your hands on him with
the ursa but there's also just there's got to be some other offlaners that I'm
missing like the razor obviously banned would have been really strong
Mars is terrible here yeah Mars is a safe option Centaur can sort of get by
it's not the most fun if you want a burst build you could fight Ursa but
no one really does that now but you do have the shadow demon to save you
and then create stacks for you. So like if you wanted to do that you could.
Yeah, Windranger, you're protected because you have the Shadow Demon.
Pit is still annoying for you, but Urza doesn't like building MKB
and you don't have the greatest magic damage,
which you still need to mid it looks like for Yondex.
So I mean, you can pick some up here at the end.
Pretty flexible here, though, because it could just be like carry Windranger,
But you could do mid and then this bristle could go anywhere.
I do think you just need someone who initiates, though, like whatever role you pick.
I want another I jump in and stun kind of hero.
I think for both teams, actually.
I think you're right.
There's going to be a lot.
There's going to be a very like major lacking of.
Mid heroes going into this final pick.
I do think
I'm trying to debate if you are considering even running the bristleback off lane like we said they ran it mid lane yesterday, but
You might be able to run it into the Ursa to be honest like it's it's not the worst
And I'm curious if you don't go seeing red like maybe you play for your other facet
And you play to just kite him almost like a Venomancer
My only downside to that is you're probably playing with the shadow demon, right?
And it's just not that strong like you'll live because you'll disrupt every time, but
I don't you can't if you had a stronger position for you could do the like
Snot rocket. It's not rocket and like, okay, just right click this guy, you know, but yeah
Yeah, you're right. It's hard. It's hard with I think it's doable still because you could stack and just farm that way
but oh he wasn't banned I totally I just assumed he was banned I would have thrown
that for yeah yeah yeah ember huskar and voker all banned now I think in terms of
heroes that are left storm spirit seems like a pretty solid band if you're
worried about a mid laner from Navi because it's not good for your team
you're playing in disruptor you eventually might be able to find heroes
like the shadow demon but Pango is okay but I feel like it's player dependent on
whether they think pangos in a good spot or not
Queen of Pain okay I actually think they should pick an off lane here that
just completely neuters the lane of the Ursa but
What about Timbersaw?
It could be okay.
The pit's annoying.
Yeah.
Once again, it's like with the right hero, Timbersaw can beat Ursa, but you have Ursa
Jekiro which is like immensely strong and then you're going to be playing with Shadow
Demon or the Disruptor, probably Shadow Demon.
I think you're just like living in the lane and then stacking
Yeah, this was the this I thought the storm spirit was a little bit more worrying than the Queen of Pain, but they go for the storm
Now in terms of mid heroes that are left that Yandex can go for
Not a lot right there's no tiny viper T
like Ember, Huskar, Shadowfiend, Racer, Leshrac, it's okay. Yeah, you're right. Lesha's still in.
It's rough and the Shadowfiend and Disruptor though is the downside. Like this, these two heroes cover
a lot of mid laners. You know, five seconds left. You gotta like pick something. So I think Void
Spirit. I was thinking, yeah, it's, it was like a choice. Like Void Spirit is more the
the playmaker more survivable. I think Leshrac would have helped bring some of the damage to
kill the the bristle and the wind ranger but not have enjoyed the shadow demon and the the
disruptor. Void spirit will go aggs which is really good this game once he gets there. Spirit
vessel also actually pretty good into the the bristle. I like both drafts but I'm leaning
I'm thinking towards Navi just because of how they played the Shadow Demon Disruptor combo yesterday.
I'm mostly interested in how they can play the Bristleback into the Ursa.
He is going to go Seeing Red, so no Snot Rocket to kite things around.
Which I think is fine because it doesn't look like you're going to be playing for the minus armor benefit of it.
It did get nerfed a ton as well.
Snot Rocket got nerfed a massive amount when it was meta back in the day.
And now we're going to see just seeing red straight damage
But I think in the lane it should be fine
Like I actually don't think this struggles too much into the Ursa lane like anytime the Ursa wants to play aggressive
You're are going to be starting the fight with like maybe
Two will spray stacks on you and then he can just kind of turn his back
And if you hit him three four times
Triggering a few more quills praise like the damage can be overwhelming
So we'll see how much the supports can actually affect the lane. I think I agree with that
and I think Malady on Chikiro is going to affect the lane very much so.
And I think you will survive as long as Shadow Demon also stays in the lane,
but it means you can't be double stacking as frequently as you like.
It means you can't go mid as often as you like.
As soon as they see you lead the lane, they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They'll live across, dual breath, you know, charge him.
Alright, it's time, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome to this best of one.
We've got Navi versus Yandex.
Both teams, you know, would love to get the win, obviously, but for right now it's a little bit surprising to see Yandex at 3-3.
Maybe they, you know, struggle a little bit more than they would have expected, but Navi's at 4-2. This would put them pretty much tied for first place if they managed to walk away with the victory here.
It would be sick for them any facets
That's stand out not really we're gonna see tangled before for cherry wind ranger absolutely necessary
They're down for the Ursa
Which every time I see the other Ursa facet I feel like
You're playing to lose so I'm glad we're not seeing that fast
Feel like you asked me that just because you wanted to throw that out there
You're like I hate the air so fast it by the way it's I don't know
I've seen some people pick it and find some success on it, but it seems like a really late game facet
I don't know if you really want to play for like the 45 minutes, you know, I have agatum scepter finally type of thing
I'll see you fast that I don't like I don't like this disruptor facet
So boring I think it's the best one he has right now
Okay, okay boring it all it does is like the extra slow the extra
Like almost every time you use kinetic field you are static storming the re thundershriking that target as well
So there's like no extra value on that
Element it is just the extra slow on thunder strike and that is so boring
I want kinetic fence to be good and I think for it to be good
They have to give it a third charge and then I think you will take it over
boring ass thunderstorm and then you just summon the Illuminati every time you
want to yeah you have to choose like the fence is more useful in general but not
being able to combo with your static storm defeats the entire purpose of this
hero and the best support aggs in the game so like you need the three charges
to Illuminati your enemies and having to wait till like I think there's a
talent for it but that's so far away to be fair I think they will just
that facet and make a new one.
I think they're just gonna give it a third charge.
I promise if you give it a third charge, it is genuinely good.
And you have to choose between holding your charges for a minute
to Illuminati people, or actually using it at a lower cooldown
compared to, like, Connecticut tents.
That is possible. I can understand that.
As for the Thunderstrike facet, I think the only real benefit
that comes from it is, you know, being able to clear jungle stacks.
Like if you if you manage to like catch two creep camps, you know as they're about to path back to each other
You at least do manage to Thunderstrike both sides of the fence
So you're getting a little bit more farm speed out of there and it gets you closer to you know that late game
Paganum Scepter
That's really all I've seen it used for
Juice nine and five I mean this is not surprising on Windranger
This is what she does the tangled fast it gives her an immense amount of damage
Very easy to see us with
Even into the Underlord who has a whole bunch of damage
But uh like I said tangled actually the few Rangers shares who can actually keep up with him, right?
It's like razor playing into him the wind ranger was tangled clink with this here heroes
You can just it does come down to a little bit of skill and the supports
but they actually have a shot at outlast hitting an underlord.
Nice wave manipulation there from Niku in the mid lane to not give up any of those denies.
Pretty even mid-brethren battle going on.
Yeah, so.
I don't expect too much to happen here until they hit six and start rotating.
That's that's what I was gonna ask. I was like, I think,
Like, like you said, the lane's pretty even between the two.
Is there a team that we're going to be seeing making like more rotations into the mid lane
here for these like maybe the water runes or even the power runes in six minutes?
Like is there one of the teams that benefits more from that?
I'd like to see Socks at try because I think that's the most likely top melody.
I think there's a big damage here.
The illusions plus the Seminator are actually quite painful.
Also the Enate from Shadow Demon's a lot of stacking damage.
He's got a salve out.
He has no shadow poison, right?
So he just needs the destruction if he gets some.
Yeah, I mean, I don't think he survives this anymore.
Always trapped next to the one tree.
All right.
First one.
Anyways.
Yeah, really good stuff there from the shadow demon.
Out trading a jikiro in lane is not easy,
but great use of the disseminate
to disseminate and that first disruption ended up,
yeah, like 11 stacks of his innate,
which I don't think I've ever seen someone
get 11 stacks of menace this early into the game, but.
Wait, you're getting involved in a long fight like that.
Yeah, it really adds up.
Right before that, I'm gonna say the tusk rotating man.
I think it's the most likely.
Oh, hold on.
They do not want me to talk about it.
Watson now facing the pressure
the surprise Riddie's rotation. Oh, we missed the Quillspray. Great use of that jump over
the tree there to get away. Not just one more would do it, but didn't account for that little
extra heal. You did still force the rotations and the pressure, so it's not the end of
world yeah yeah but tusk here mid waiting for niku to walk in no zip you
get this ice arch track man this is really nice for the blood grenade this
should be a key to connect the remnants but we'll see it's gonna close
socks uh we'll end up trading in that move he lives on just a sliver of hb
This water is for me?
That's crazy. That was so close.
The Decivilate actually didn't connect on the storm.
He was like right at the edge of the ice shards.
And thanks to the rotation, they run down PMA topside.
That courier.
That's a huge courier. That's his finished treads.
13 denies on the Underlord.
Pretty impressive on the Windranger.
Slowing her down a little bit is very important.
Yandex striking back after the first blood, finding a little bit of space in these lanes now.
And this will get Void spirits a level 6 before the storm, almost guaranteed.
Right, like this great movement there.
We'll have it for the 6 minute rune, no problem.
Topside, Malady, again getting caught here from Zack and this takes on down.
this top one's actually going a lot better than I expected I
shadow demon damage I also don't think it's supposed to be that easy to get
out yeah I mean I don't think expecting the menace that's is actually what it is
I guess the menace plus a little bit of quill spray like keeping Jikiro low
enough that shadow demon is then able to do the rest on himself but maybe you're
Right, maybe he is just not backing up enough for the menace stacks.
He also did go for a point in ice pad, so he has less damage, right?
Not having that extra point of, okay, well, the ice pad already pays off.
He's gonna be able to secure them a regenerating Niko without the level 6.
Let's just be dead here. One more after steps in.
They got him.
That first rotation has now netted him two kills in this mid lane.
Yeah, that's exactly what you want.
Now I'm here to let Least Punish the Underboard.
Does he die?
He's pretty tanky, actually.
He lives?
Wow.
That's a Fiora, very strong.
Jirgir, I don't know if he'll find a Shadow Demon though.
Max Ice Bat.
Yeah, he's surely this'll be another coat, right?
Can't really get away.
He's got that Leeds of Rune as well to simulate.
He actually just simulates away,
so Shadow Demon's gonna live.
Astral stuff cool down just a little bit too long
Yeah, this is that snowball series of events where you gank mid the first time storm loses out an XP
So he's not six by the time
The rune comes in Riddies wants to steal this, but secured by notice
Oh, he does get okay, that's good
It's worth it to die for it. If they can get any return kills, that'd be great though it looks like it's a plus for all.
Hot way out.
The illusions from the Shadow Demon were there and then they just despawned, so he was gonna get the...
It looked like Riddies was in range.
Yeah, looking for the glimpse there. She barely didn't get it.
That's unfortunate. That would have made it all worth it. Rotating this many heroes and you kill the Ursa.
Jesus go all the way back through the Twin Gate, which they're waiting for him.
He might die when he comes back here. He does have Windrun, Snowball.
Heather, you'll be able to dive him under the tower. They do get the shackle off, but the mice path again from Malady and juice goes down. Really good read from Yondex.
That was a great call. That should get them this bottom tower as well though. They're gonna try to match this topside, Watson.
and
that's an easy kill
,
where it is left to find out
the insidious and she was on his way still with the amplified damage is still going so
I don't think they're willing to push it too hard
Like all three of their lanes has turned out really well.
We saw the first plot in some early aggression in this bottom lane, but Underlord has now
taken the tower.
He's just freely farming your kind of bottom area of the map, and Chirigener has been involved
in three kills, almost has his spirit vessel.
The attention brought to the mid lane has really opened up the game for Yondex.
And I think it was the play to make because as we were getting to the end of the draft
we were like both teams need a playmaker, they get stormed, they get void spirit.
So whoever's playmaker's doing better, you get to make the plays and the other one has
to play catch up.
So it was worth bringing the attention of the Tusken, even if it sacrificed your underlord
for a little bit, because then your playmaker can come over and help your underlord.
The other side, Navi, Niku's just been trying to catch back up.
tried to make like some small stuff but wasn't actually ever able to find a kill
and your underlord can just do things like this you know I'll stack back here
who's gonna mess with him
man like oh what a pull back in off the run then Niku's gonna still survive but
it's a pretty hefty amount of damage Pyroon will spawn bottom go bottle that
for the void spirit he may continue to just trying to farm as much as
possible on the bristle back here Watson closing in on his battle theory
We still got a little ways to go, but these games looking pretty good so far.
Xayah was able to make some stacks which just got cleared up, so it is helping to keep his cores afloat.
Still a bit behind though, especially that Bristleback, not really a hero that wants to play from this far back.
Alright, Vessel done. They're looking to gank.
Don't know if they actually caught sight of the two heroes running south in the jungle Riddies on this disruptor
Neither showing on the ward quite yet
And we're these now stepping in yeah, they'll see him now
The thing is I kind of know they're in there
It's just a matter of do you actually want to go that far and they decide no we just want to farm
They're safely in jungle. This is the safer play. There's still a lot of money here and we just grow the the gold lead
Right you see him move up the 5k. You don't actually need to kill
You just need to out farm them and when you scare them back like they have then you're happy
I think he meant to dissimulate the bristle back there and
They step a little bit forward and that will allow them to secure the kill
It has a quick little illusion dodge and glimpse, but still benefits they get the
kill they get two more vessel charges and juice needs to be careful I don't know
if you want to stick around all that long
I think said they can't punish the dive right they've got a shadow demon and a
storm spirit that can join the fight
Dude, Riddies is level 4 on the Disruptor. I didn't even realize. Oh my god, he's solo level.
I mean, that's kind of what happens when you try to... you have to sort of match what the enemy is doing, moving around the map.
But you're just not as good at it, right? Disruptor is not nearly as good at it as Tusk. Not as good of a laner as a hero.
So you're trying to adjust on a hero that wants to be ahead.
and that was why I was a little worried about like running the bristle in the
off lane when we knew it was starting to be a little weird. Dude how the heck did
they get that ward by the base camp in the bottom lane right like after the kill
they got they had the ward that's got it but someone went even deeper and
placed a ward on the hard camp in the corner of the map. That's gonna be nice
to play around that's not likely to get the ward. Mid lane, Niku will find Malady here.
They should have enough damage, but he's out of mana and Chirijunior is now here on this void spirit one more
Help me easily be the kill notice coming to the fiends gate trying to maybe close the gap here on to yondex
They may or onto a track and they will trap them in the shards
nowhere to go I
Always forget under lord has invading force. Yeah, I never think about this
but so much movement speed there helps to grab a kill it's every tp as well it's not even just the
hit right anytime you use teleport scroll to a tower like you automatically get a pretty massive boost
all right embers the storm spirits game being shut down pretty heavily here and now without
fast or farm to the noticed underlord is like you pair that with this jikiro
easily able to take towers now we're looking at the 14 minute wisdom shrine
our room will spawn bottom it's going to be a haste room so this one should go to the storm spirit
but it does cost you that shrine
maybe you can run over and steal the air so i see it being pinged
i'm going to try and that tpr a void spirit's not going to let it happen
And that's a worthy TP. I think he saw Niku walk into the
Watcher. He's like, I'm just gonna cut this off right now. I'm gonna go get it
Well, they do lose a courier bring a prask
How close was he to the crimson guard?
That's actually for the the boots of bearing which he will have because he has it but and I gotta wait for that
Well, I think you're perfectly happy just sitting back and farming on Yondex right now like letting your void spirit play a little bit aggressive
If he finds a kill maybe set up from Soxa you have the Underlord that can join but
Your Ursa is gonna be a massive
Issue for the side of Navi here in a little bit. Astrone's gonna get popped. Searching for Zyachir in the trees
There you get a little bit of vision. Soxa should be able to seal the deal on this one
,
more than a 10¢
melody getting some revenge for the late in the half-seriously
So I think you could ramp up if you wanted to now like you said though
I don't think you're that pressured too. I think you can still just chill hit some bigger timings
You just get your blink BKB right like that's what you play for on the air so
That's your Q'd up for now actually, which is also kind of cool
Oh
Jumps right in bait them into a static storm but today at the damage to finish the job this crimson guard reducing so much of juices damage and now
Well statics the static storm is over. I can continue to look for more Watson does not find out on the back line
storm spirit
You can pop those back to the base. Yeah, you just go right into rush
It was an interesting bait idea. I'll give them that for the Crimson Guard now. Shut down so much.
I mean, it's a great idea if you're not 8k behind, you know?
Yeah.
And they don't have the Crimson Guard, you have a little bit more damage, then you're absolutely killing them.
But we see for the first few seconds of that static storm through Hero's Trap, their health bars don't even move.
even move because they're not taking any damage until eventually the crimson guard starts to
expire and the focus fire gets to work, but this just happens when you fall this far behind.
Maybe the bristleback could have made a difference there, but he doesn't have the hairball shard
and he's just so on her farm.
You need the hairball to build those initial stacks so you can start doing more damage,
Especially with the Wind Ranger there, but
Yeah, it's what having a little bit of a rough lane will do you
Now ages for the Ursa he's not under any threat now the basher makes way more sense because he doesn't need to buy a BKB anytime soon
Sox is kind of wrecking them on this war game. They have so many keyboards survive for a lot of this allowing them to play this fast
When he just gets the link as well
So early actually I'm like oh we're getting ready for tormentor right like oh wait it's only only 18 minutes
And normally you look for the 18 minute attempt at Roche into the tormentor, but they got Roche a couple minutes ago
Now they're just looking for
taking anything they can find as the blink revealed from Soxa on his heavily top side ice patin on a mark but
Niku uh-oh that's a lot of damage from the Ursa cannot finish going through that twin gate so he will
play on the edge of the map here we're looking at notice i don't know if you want to go on the other
Man pipe crimson guard done
Yeah, man. Here's a little careful. Yeah, they are but oh, jackal great snowball save though
There's your pipe. There's your crimson guard the focus fire doing effectively nothing
You've lost to looking to be a third as PMA trying his best to hovel away with the hair ball
It's close enough enough
Has to keep the crow spray stacks going or else the blink daggers coming through there is snowball in the finish of the kill
It's looking scary man. Yandex now 12,000 ahead just 19 minutes in they can make their
way to Tormentor.
It wasn't for that snowball save dude. The initial tango plus Mjolnir damage was killing
the Underlord and maybe you've got something going there but I mean Tusk just finished
the blink as well. Right? This just goes back to what we're saying. You're so ahead
You're picking up these items sooner and sooner and so Navi
Just run that options here. These are the place they have to try to make but I mean
This is like gold with the games and don't know why so many pros like to just sit and farm rather than force high ground because
Eventually the items answer all the problems and you need items to answer those and if you don't have the items yourself
You just can't
Well, they see me through here at the top lane like just who doesn't quite get the walrus punch and as a result
They'll be just fine
But this is just face for the torment right? Yeah, they're just gonna go up there. They've got
Purse, he'll make quick work of it
Juke's gonna maybe try and grab the bottom tier one tower, but it's still really scary to try and push yourself
There's there's no way they're going good. Oh
Hold up. They're coming to this one gate bottom Soxa looking to maybe
Try and intercept the gank and intercept he does
He is dead
He gets rewarded with the shard though.
Alright, I'm kinda confused by that sequence to be honest, because there's no way you smoke
and try to go through the twin gate to fight the enemy on the Tormentor like that.
So I don't know why Navi went that way, which is why Sox is thinking like, I'm actually
not needed here.
I'm gonna go through this gate.
They're gonna be trying to push and bot while we're doing Tormentor.
Cheer at juniors coming in you know like we're gonna kill someone he pops through and there's like three people here
It's like what the hell are you guys doing?
But it didn't work for Navi so it's like yeah, okay
But I'm so confused why they weren't there
They're not gonna be able to take it
I will say Yandex has been so on point with the wisdom trines this game every single one
Since the 7 minute mark has gone their way
And you can see it in the support not like
The net worth very clearly reflected, but
XP is just as bad
Fortunately well hmm, I don't know if it applies this game
I'm gonna say level one static storm is kind of enough for what you need because it mostly scales in
damage and cooldown but the the duration of it is actually the same so like that
part's fine but then you actually kind of do need the damage this game because
you're so far behind and a cool down would be nice to you right like 30
seconds less the next level is always nice I guess the bigger thing you're
missing is kinetic field levels actually to keep them trapped in the
static storm though usually the game is close the initial like 2.6 is
enough to get a quick kill again maybe not when you're so far behind and
with snowball saves and crimson guards
we're starting to see juice catch back up on the wind ranger like now that he's
picked up a little bit more items right he's got the mealner completed this is
like one of the big ones into the dragon land so he is starting to find some
farm the downside is that you're gonna need some bkbs on the heroes like
storm spirit juice probably needs oh well there it is there's our story
okay so it's gonna reduce his damage output quite a bit like this isn't like a
very high damage storm but at least he might survive the fight now
bottom tier 2 tower definitely not gonna live to hero maybe it'll live you think
so yeah so your saver's a chance it's gone how weird
Now that his, uh, his Aegis is gone, decides to finally go back for the BKB.
And the Lord Aghanim, Scepter, Dunn, so that instant pit of Malice root globally.
And he does have...
He's actually has so much XP.
He's closing on his little 20 talents, which is a pretty massive talent for that
hero.
It's only 23.
This game is messing with my perception of Tyra.
Yeah.
They're so rich this game.
This is the p-ondect that looks good.
You know, they've been having a bit of a shaky performance,
but like, this is when they're playing really well.
They're making so many fast moves.
He drops the pit. His team's coming.
You gotta kill this guy quick, girls.
You're in trouble. Static's on our right.
They're just like, there, Ron. You're dead.
Where am I gonna come help you?
You're on your own.
You're gonna take him!
Come to the gate, notice on a snoball!
Snoball!
No way. He's surely gonna die, but the question is, can you get out now?
And Nabi is the rest of Yandex joins the fray, Nuku, very low mana,
trying to use the rest of it to escape, and he will be able to glimpse who they found.
Well, that's gonna be PMA on the Bristol back,
three for one, the dude lives for what seems like forever,
and Watson will walk away with a triple kill.
I mean he's got pipe crimson guard essence ring with magic resistance enchantment
he's got his ags he's so tanky on this underlord and he was kind of sad they
could have come through the the gate sooner but it would have been a just
static storm you know so they're like you got it man you're totally gonna live
we're gonna be there in a moment they just wait that extra second to make sure
they're not stepping into the static storm it was definitely like a mind
game because I thought after how long the gate was down I was like maybe they aren't coming and I think
Davi was again they're just gonna let him die and then it's like psych we are all here you know like
yeah you just don't want to deliver yourself into the static storm yeah it was cool and also if you
lose like as you see if you lose the underlord you still win the fight the only way you possibly
lose is you all come in through too soon and then get like killed in the static storm so I think
it was a good idea and they almost saved him too huh yeah sox got that snowball when he had like
one HP. Well, with this, the, you know, you get, you get A kill on Navi, but it still doesn't feel
very great. Bottom lane, PMA about to get executed here and pulled right into the fans up here.
I don't know if he might live.
Thank you, Zach.
That's pretty close.
That is not an underlord, unfortunately.
Definitely does not feel the same.
BKB done on the Wind Ranger I believe, just being delivered.
They're finding some items, you're 17,000 gold behind.
And the supports do a significant amount of damage on the side of the index as well.
Yeah.
The hard, like here's the thing.
That last fight bottom that we saw is actually the perfect play on paper, which is you can't
go on anyone else because Underlord will show up, so you have to find Underlord and pick
him off.
And if he tries to bring his team, you'll have Static Storm and Gloomce and everything
to send people away, right?
It's theoretically the perfect play.
And then you're 18,000 behind, so it takes so long to kill Underlord, the rest of
the team shows up.
if the perfect play doesn't work right like what is what else do you do you just have to keep dragging
this out and hope it goes to ultra late and try to find pick offs and then you look at the time
like oh my god it's only 20 times the game we have so far to go yeah the MKB for the Ursa as well
is going to be a pretty big nail in the coffin for this windranger they're waiting for that
Roche and then you just get both and you
Look to close out the game by the way well
We have a moment look at the Roche pit ward they have pub players if you guys really sneaky
I don't think it should work. I think valve will patch it, but currently you can't see it until you step into that corner
So it's we'll see if I'm sure y'all
No, they know that the road is really quickly
That's probably the biggest slip up from
From the on decks is losing that second row
They wanted to wait for the MKB into Roche, but you still got to keep your eyes on it to make sure that does not happen.
Yeah, I mean, if you just drop the Underlord ult like on the entrance to the Roche pit, like that pit of Malice will block off any entrance or exit.
It makes it so difficult to fight around.
So a little bit of a slip up and some breathing room potentially for Na'Vi here is they have that Aegis on the Storm Spirit.
We'll see what they can get out of it because this is not a we're gonna go fight you now type of ages
This is a we're stalling the game another five minutes. Hopefully right to try and catch back up
This is a storm can now try to zip cut waves a little a little more and if he dies
He responds. That's what this ages is. Yeah, absolutely
I
Storm coasily way
That pose is generally comfortable except for like the pressure that builds up, you know on your life
You're leaning your head on your head stuff. So man, you need the air like floating
No, no pressure whatsoever. No one of those like special pillows you can put on your, you know your arm
Make it not nearly as uncomfortable. Yeah
Socks are coming up top they want try to get this storm
They know he's trying to push aggressively they saw him with the observer along with the lane showing that okay
Well, you did it
Ice Pat will be here
Can they kill him a second time? The bash? The damage? Not enough.
Niko gets the BKB, zips the safety, Zyac though.
Not gonna be as lucky.
Well, I don't think you cut as many waves as you were hoping with that Aegis.
To be fair, I'm realizing all six towers are up on Yandex,
so there's not a lot of easy ways to cut waves.
That is true.
That's true. It's really a really a tough one for
Navi. This is why when you start to lose you actually try you need to make a play to take a tower
Especially the enemy safe lane tower is ideal because it gives you the most
space to cut waves. The mid tower there's like barely any difference. Same with the off lane
So the safe lane gives you the most options
And if you're not able to do that
Well, you see what happens, right? I'll just TP and kill you
quick kill on the tower thanks to the Erisa and Jekiro and with the MKB done he'll buy
himself the Aghanim's shard and the three fury swipes on hit is so much damage with
the uh like basher bkb okay i'd like to take a moment how can ursa's nerf in 7.40c be a single
damage off your swipe yeah i don't know that was that was uh an ai balance or something i'm not
really sure i'm gonna go again to sustain through this static storm no one really dying quite yet
So you're trying to continue the chase.
Arsas managed to find the Bristol back.
He will cleanly chop him down.
Nice shackle out from Juice, but he just really
don't have the damage.
Oh, they catch that very good charge from Soxa.
Pulls him back in.
We'll have a defensive disruption,
but there's just no way out.
Double kill for Watson.
Beyond God, like 11 at 0 and 2.
Is that what I look for the mid tier two tower?
There's much you can do from here though. I appreciate Navi holding on. I think the dream
is they all run in, you static storm all of them. They don't press BKBs yet because they're
bold. You disseminate somebody, you shackleshot all of them, and then you focus fire the
disseminated target and the shared damage throughout all of it kills everybody
Tormentor number two only despite
The state of the game
Like to be in a rage Ursa just doing Ursa things notice gets it on the Underlord
Chirijunir I think is scouting out a whole rotation with an Enviz rune right now.
That is going to be very painful if they manage to get either the Soar Spirit or the Wind Ranger.
He jumps in, manages to get the silence on the two.
Shadow Demon on a sliver of HP does get the demonic bird.
Burning Go to the Spirit Festival, but Chirijunir will have the BKB and during all of it, Watson's dead.
Or I'm sorry, Watson. Watson kills Juice.
So big two kills trying to really force the BKB out of the sword spirit, and they will get it
He wants a tower
Oh what a good fiends gate. Yeah, oh my god
Merciless
Come on guys. Look he wants a tower. What a habit man. You get nothing
I really think really they get nothing with that. They're gonna head straight down big
You don't even need your Ursa here the Underlord still got 150 bonus damage not built like crystal list, but it's still gonna help to
Take this tower here
You'll take it. You know, it's not too bad
I'm really surprised cheer junior with the greedy enchantment like boys could actually does kind of want damage
But yeah, I'm a little
I'm surprised. Truly a greedy choice. Maybe misclicked.
If you get the tier 3 tower, Vistalback will keep the racks alive.
Is there anything that we're waiting for here on Yondex? Because they have a gem, they have their BKBs, they have some major talents.
Like, you finish up an Abyssal Blade on the Aerosolay, it's going for a Swift Blink. Like, what could they possibly need?
Um, I don't think you really need to wait for anything and if you hadn't lost a second Roche
I don't think they'd be doing any waiting whatsoever. I think because they lost the second Roche
They're playing it a little safer just trying to get like any wins
They can since they are in that spot where you know the rest of the games go poorly
You could end up in that lower bracket
I mean don't get me eliminated
But you still want to be like if not if not top two then at least that next chunk
Which don't have to play the last place qualifiers our last chance qualifiers, which are last yeah place qualifiers
In another in another way
So you like you just close this one out cleanly right you find being kills you push a little bit right they got that mid tower
They you know take it nice and easy look for more kills like that
And eventually get the next
Well, they heard
And it will just end up turning into a kill for this the shadow demon
He didn't copy the demonic herds, but eventually Watson will close the gap. Thanks to the double pit of malice
More kills for the Ersta. This man is...
15-0 and 2. It's gonna be a very impressive score when this game's over.
For the storm spirit mid once again, forced to zip to safety.
Is there anywhere that's safe at this point? What do you think?
The fountain's kind of safe.
You smoked up walking up on the high ground.
Until, until you reflect to 7-8,
Urson rage and you stand in the fountain.
Oh my goodness, there's...
Your high ground is clearly not safe.
We're learning that. He's going to buy a backstab.
Yeah, X-Lormage down. That's the pile available.
There's the Crypt of Guard. BKBs are there.
Niku is a BKB. That's an axe macro fire for Malon.
He knew it's a work. He managed to take down the tusk,
but Niku's dead in the process.
Yeah, they're going to try and chase down Watson, but...
I'm gonna go quite as well as he thought maybe
The boys period on the other side of the fight just so many everyone just managed to catch juice with the remnant and now
No buyback it all for him, but Niku is gonna come back in DKB for wants is gonna buy him a little bit of space turns
Attention gets the bass the pit of malice is locked together when it plays it. There's the GG's
Boy, oh boy Yandex
Put a stamp on this one. This wasn't even close
this was a
really well done from the Yandex.
I want to say special shout out to Soxa.
That's never been said before,
but really I think his moves in the early game were amazing.
Like you get that lane into an okay spot.
It's not amazing, but that's what it, you know,
you got to deal with lane against Windranger, you know,
Underlord gets by and Soxa spends the time
to rotate mid, punish that matchup,
which is pretty skill based.
You know, Storm Spirit versus Void Spirit,
if you just leave him alone,
it just comes down to the two players.
Let's not do that.
Let's get in there, throw in the nice shards.
You know, steal his water rune, make him die,
make him not hit level six by the first power rune,
get that, kill him again, right?
You start this snowball of events
and on the perfect hero, which is the storm spirit.
Like everything has to go around the storm spirit.
And in the same way,
your team really wants to play around the void spirit.
So it's such a pivotal match up there
and you have the better heroes
and the better rotations to make it happen
and work in your favor.
And not to mention just the incredibly clutch snowballs
he managed to pull out to save heroes
in these fights too, right?
Like there's the one in the mid lane
where notice was going to die
to the Wind Ranger focus fire.
And I think if they get that kill,
Navi might have won the fight
because the auras from the Crimson Guard and the pipe
and just the, you know, naturally are
reduce a lot of the damage,
but that snowball at the very last second
kept notice in the fight,
you know, both of his actives
off and just absolute monster
performance from him on the
tusk. But you know, Watson
18 0 and 4, Junior 7 0 and 20.
It's just a full team team
efforts from Yandex here, and
they looked really good. We're
gonna go back to the draft,
though. We were curious, like,
you know, bristleback into the
air. So, Lane, we were not
super optimistic about it
from the start. Just didn't
pan out how they wanted, I
think. Kind of goes back to
what you're saying, like,
to what we're saying like they like certain heroes and I respect that but
sometimes something else might have been a little easier so yeah don't have to
think on that because they actually do have another game later today the last one
will watch but before then we're gonna be watching Reconyx versus Gamer Legion
so go take a quick break guys maybe check out A-Stream there's some stuff
going on there but then be back for the next one in just a little bit
Welcome back everybody. It's more going on here at Blast Slam 6. We're coming into the
end of day two here. Pretty close. Got a couple series left and up next is going to be Gamer
Legion versus Reconyx. We started the day out with some super long series and we really
picked up the pace here with the last three or so, but we'll see what happens
as Gamer Legion, a team from North America. Now these guys have typically gone for a faster
playstyle, I would say, but we definitely saw a couple of major backfires in their plans
yesterday.
It seems to have continued today. We didn't get to catch those series, but they have two
more losses. We'll see if they can turn around here with a win, but I feel like
We actually thought the best of one format might benefit them, but it seems teams are still,
you know, after the first couple wins took a quick look, have highlighted the Storm Spirit
being a key part of their success, some of their other major heroes constantly being banned
out, and it feels like the second round of picks that they have after those bans are
just not as good.
Like there's a clear step down from their best strategies to their second best.
Yeah, I think RCY has been doing some absolute insane heavy lifting on this roster like the games that they were struggling in yesterday where it just felt like
He had like an anchor tied to his ankles, you know, like you like dead in the water, you know, like he's playing a hero and tied hunter from the sideline just puts the anchor on him is like good luck playing now, you know, like
you know, like the team needs to come together and play around them.
They need to do a little bit better in the lane,
but we'll see what they can do versus their opponents for Connix,
who again, like similar in the way of this team has had some really good looking games,
but then kind of fell short right at the finish line.
So they don't have the best scoreline right now,
but I don't know if it's exactly representative of the potential of this team, right?
Like one in five, but the gym,
my two of those wins they should have gotten like this is a team that could be dead even at three and three right now
Could be we'll see if they learn from those losses like you said they were kind of close
And so that means you keep doing what's good fix what's wrong, and maybe you can convert a couple more games into wins
They're still still a little bit more in this group stage. So it's not too late to learn
Let's take a look at the bands very quickly
the first of the
They got rid of the Chen Storm Spirit the first-phase bands that we've seen every single game against the game religion
They got rid of the brewmaster and Timbersaw in favor of leaving the trient in
So I am curious what their game plan is against this Euro
I hope you've got a plan because most teams have been banning out the Trant Protector.
He's just a little too strong.
Eyes in the forest just give so much vision even if you give a little bit of gold that
doesn't give you more centuries to work with, right?
It doesn't make an early gem purchase any less risky.
So something like Batrider is a cool idea.
just break trees randomly and you're also very good in the lane versus the
tree and protector. You can knock him out of the safety of his trees. The slows,
the turn rate, the move slows, all very painful for Trian to deal with. Yeah,
it's a great response. It is something that Big Num has played a lot in the
past. That being said, we're seeing a lot more core Batrider and I'm
wondering if this is going to be something that Fade wants to play. But
I think overall my bet would be that this is the four position Batrider
Even though it's not as common right now
Okay, hear me out Largo
versus
Trant actually pretty good cuz the ideal
Case of catchy lick is the enemy buffing themselves because you get the damage and you still get you still get the self-heal
And you pull them a little for like some aggression
So someone spamming living armor all the time great then his overgrowth, right?
a huge BKB piercing ult, free dispel.
Catchy lick, bleh.
Okay, okay.
So you think we might be seeing the off lane
Largoba that Gamer Legion have tried a couple times?
Not with great success, mind you, but they have played it.
And I don't think that the issues they had in that game
was a result of the Largo.
Yeah, I think you could do off lane Largo.
I also still think I just support Largo.
You and I haven't actually gotten to see people do support Largo.
I know other teams have done it.
We just keep catching the off lane Largo games that slip through.
But I think support Largo is perfectly acceptable.
OK, hear me out for the conics.
Largo, also pretty good versus the Batrider.
The sticky napalm free dispel, easy remove.
And I have to go lasso, pull people away,
pull them back with catchy lick, but...
Do you think they ban the Abaddon,
or do you think they take the Abaddon?
Cause if you don't do one of those things here
on Gamer Legion,
Reconyx will definitely take it, right?
Yeah, I think Abaddon would be a good ban.
But if they pick it, you know what?
Largo, pretty good.
Remove that aphotic shield.
That's a good point.
Hey, no Chikiro?
Very strong lanes with these two heroes.
Well, we'll see you.
You know you want to it honestly very well could be if they go there might be trying to bait the abaddon like you said
Because carry abaddon is still very popular into the Batrider matchup and then the off lane Largo would be an issue. I
Do like the Abaddon pick if they want to go that route even with even if the enemy takes Largo like the
the self-dispel with the ultimate is a big thing and even if you
Like you shield an ally to remove lasso you can remove the shield
But the last was already been dealt with you know, so I still think it's a solid pick
Okay, you don't even have to worry about it. You know shadow demon, you know just rub your target can't lick through that
Very cool shadow demon Mars very strong set up from the disruption into the spheres
Also gives you a little bit of team fight. You don't really have a good way of playing around bloodsport right now either
So if you want to up for that facet on the Mars, there's no real save coming out of game religion
If you do want to do core Batrider, I think Clockwork is solid for Gamer Legion, also a
hero very good vs Tarant, great scouting potential into the arena in case they go for the Blood
Sport, but also you can find a Shadow Demon to help prevent him from saving, like you
hookshot to him and then the Batrider lassoes the target he actually wants.
I mean what about picking a Ricky into the Shadow Demon and then instantly losing?
That would certainly be an NA way to go.
Actually it's more of a Team Spirit way to go. They play the Ricky more than anyone else I feel.
Yeah, they do.
There he is. Let's get the Gargobles.
Yeah, this is a cool. It's a cool draft. I mean, it makes sense, right? We were anticipating big num bat rider
Probably gonna be the off-lane Largo for fade into the tree and protector lane
Which makes it a little bit more difficult to play the tree and now you definitely don't want to pick me about it into this
Which I think you could if you want I think you can still
It's better than nothing into the bat rider, right? You would still at least get rid of the napalm stacks
Yeah, it depends how much you value that dealing with the Batrider and they're just not gonna
let them take it themselves.
Okay, so this is what I was wondering if they were gonna do it earlier was take the Abaddon
after the Windranger Band, but now they take it.
So in terms of heroes that can survive the Batrider lane, the list is pretty short.
It used to be things like Phantom Lancer and Slark, Abaddon.
I don't know if you can play Slark here.
It's actually not a bad Slark game, but I just haven't really seen Slark be all that popular.
I was gonna say, if Slark gets buffed, I think he'll actually be pretty good.
Like for against Largo, for example, you're fine with long fights.
Yeah, like let me steal more stats.
I don't care. Same deal with Abaddon.
So if the hero was just stronger, I think I'd be all for it.
I think you could do it, but then you definitely need a strong mid laner
to help you get through the weaker parts of your game.
and double melee also sounds a little awkward into batrider unfortunately
it could be something like ta here uh you could also go for like a juggernauts
or just like a gyro to shove the lane instead yeah gyro or clinks i think are okay
clinks did put a hurt on lago and lane last time we saw and it does pair really well with the mars
I do like that idea.
I will say Largo Batrider does seem like a pretty aggressive lane, like the catchy look
into like Flame Break.
I mean, you don't even need the Flame Break, but you're not getting away from the Batrider
with the repositioning and the slow.
Yeah, those Frog Stomps are stomping for sure.
Double knockback.
Ooh!
Okay, so we get to Kes instead.
I mean this is a good matchup into a bad and it traditionally has been I
Have not seen it lane versus a Largo yet. So that part. I'm a little bit curious about
But we have seen people ban it
quite a bit recently like the Kes
Yeah, I'm excited to see it just to see it if nothing else I I also have not seen this
interaction before or like these heroes against each other. I think you can remove Falcon Rush,
can't you? Yes, it's actually really annoying. You can remove Falcon Rush, Grappling Claw,
all of his like movement abilities. Just instantly. Like Katana, you can also remove,
can't you? Yeah, it instantly removes any of his movement base abilities. So if you
He tries to grappling Clalé, if you time it perfectly, it goes on cooldown and then you
instantly dispel the movement and he gets pulled back instead.
And like part of his, part of the Kez is like big early game spike is the Kazari katana
dot which is just dispelled anytime he does damage to Largo.
So it's rough.
We'll see.
I think it's going to be good for
game religion. Largo bat
rider to me seems stronger than
Kaz trient, but. Trient's
getting banned a lot, and I'm
curious to see how much you can
get done in the lane with the
tree protector. Last set of
bands of both teams need their
mid laner. Game religion will
have the last pick for RCY. He
will not get his storm. He will
not get his ember. No
at his ember. No Huskar, no Tiny. What do you want to remove? Any playmakers pretty decent.
I feel like for RCY. I don't know if I should even play the Bat Rider because there's a chance you
do like Bat Rider mid. They have last pick on Gamer Legion. So if Reconyx picks something weak to
the Bat Rider, you might be able to do that. RCY plays a lot of heroes. He's very, very,
very very very talented. I do agree though I think yeah you could absolutely put a
different matchup in the mid lane if it's good for Batrider and pick a four
that might punish the Cuzz tree and protector get rid of the lash lash the
lash oh that's a wrong game
think a little bit more early damage could be nice for Reconyx I think also
something to actually make use of this tree and protect it like he's gonna go
scout things out and you need someone who can jump eventually Mars gonna do it
maybe you do something like Invoker you know like you root someone and then
just some strike from afar that can be kind of interesting the tornado is
pretty good to disrupt a lot of game religion stuff Invoker pairs really well
with Shadow Demon and Mars so I actually don't dislike that they'll go for
the pop-up he's a pretty hard hero to catch which the lockdown on game
Relegion is a little awkward especially into disruption. So
You go for the voice here here night void spirit dragon night those come to mine I
Don't think you put the bat the bat rider mid anymore. I think you need a much stronger counter. Yeah
Yeah, just do sideline bat RC wise to say he's put his he's ready. It's just a white spear. I
Think a voice crew on fine. It's a decent match up mid
but also it's a really good vessel game.
And I think with the void spirit having like an early vessel,
if his lane doesn't go poorly,
could easily cause issues for this tree protector.
In these side lanes.
Did you do the Largo offlane stuff?
I was wondering like maybe Batrider into Kev's could be cool.
Like, do they Batrider offlane?
But oh, it's Batrider 5.
Okay, either way, Batrider and Jekiro play very similarly in the lane with Largo, so I'm not too worried about it either way, and now the Batrider vs Mars Shadow Demon, we'll see how that...
We did see Shadow Demon kinda dump on a Jekiro in lane not that long ago, so maybe this match is a little bit better.
Yeah, I was thinking, I think I like Batrider into Trant more, but Jakiro is fine, and I think Batrider does better vs Shadow Demon than Jakiro does, so...
Yeah.
Yeah, I wonder if they're switching because of that.
I mean, overall, I think Gamer Legion has some pretty strong lanes. We'll see how much this Kez can actually offer.
versus like the Largo off lane which we've seen game religion try two times
before at least you and I I'm not sure if they've tried it again since then but
they haven't had a ton of success with it
yeah but man for the games we've seen I feel that game religion drafts are
actually quite good they are from I agree things we've caught it's the
the execution that has failed a little bit up to this point.
So I hope for their sake, you know,
every loss is a learning moment
and you're figuring out what you're doing wrong.
Cause I, I think it's not the draft holding you back.
It's just like how you actually play in the game,
which is a little harder to fix.
Like draft can also be hard to fix,
but technically if you just stumble into the right idea,
boom, you're done.
You know, like you have the right idea there.
It is usually executing in the game
that is a little trickier.
Yeah.
A little bit of a pause to start things off,
but in terms of the drafts, I'm with you.
I like what they're bringing to the table here on Gamer Legion.
We'll see if the execution will follow suit.
But in terms of the facets, everything
looking about what we expect.
Now, for Batrider and the core,
we typically see the arsonist for the support.
a lot of times it's stoked.
This is a potentially volatile facet
where if you have a vessel builder on the other team
and you pop your firefly,
you actually just can die to vessel and your own firefly.
So you need to be very careful of it.
Fight, do they know they're-
They have a sentry here?
They know they're gonna start cutting the trees.
Do it, guys, do it!
Catchy, look, pull them in!
Oh!
Guys, do it!
Surely someone's going to start the fight, just-
God, someone do something.
Grab him.
I don't know what's happening.
They're like, we are going to fight.
They have such a good level one lineup.
What in the world?
I mean, a catchy look just kills a hero.
Get him.
What?
Catch.
Dude.
Is this really an NA versus SEA lineup?
How did they not fight?
10 heroes enter.
Everyone says, good day.
How are you?
Yeah.
Oh, don't mind us, guys.
Not aggression pack, please.
We're just trying to take down the trees.
How?
Yeah.
Oh.
Bro.
There, there's too much respect.
They're like, they're behind.
And we're like, we're going to do this,
and they're going to know we're here.
Guys, you just got to send it.
Just drop the spells.
I mean, what does the Kez do if he gets catchy looked
forward?
Legitimately.
I mean, he echo slashes back,
and then you just lost his contribution in the fight.
So, yeah, like you echo slash backwards
or you're like forced to go grappling claw,
but if you go grappling callable on your game,
is you could stash.
Yeah, I'm very surprised they did not just fight.
Yeah, that was a very bizarre level one smoke.
I mean, we've talked about it a few times
with tree and protector.
A lot of teams just smoke up,
go to the, or run straight to the offline,
start cutting the trees.
And we were wondering like,
When is the team gonna start responding to that and try and punish it which that was the closest we've got I guess
We almost actually see it
Oh my god, what a weird
I'll tell you what it is that were I can't speak for reconnaissance, but for game religion
We have said we like their ideas
The mid lane has been going really well
The side lanes have been struggling and these early fights can really throw you off
I feel like they have been talking they're like we need to a stable start we need safe plays
we just need to get through this and
Like bring our ideas together and so they see that fight. They're like no no no
We said we said no crazy stuff like just just go to lanes go to lanes even
Tree protector gets the sentry D ward there which
Not much you can really do about it. He just I mean there's no trees for him to play in anyway, so I
I
Don't think he doesn't even need to remove that century. Yeah, it's not a small camp got blocked
So if you want to play for the small camp sure
But yeah, the small camps block like you said nice pull though
This one's easy to do a tree and he's one of the best heroes for it. Can you can walk through the trees? I
Think they can contest this though like to cure was quite strong
You can contest but if it's just job it pull the lane back.
Yeah, true, true.
Mid, RCEY is cooking here. This is a skill based mashup.
Um, Void is a little easier to...
Nice kill here. I saw that two minutes ago but...
not wrong actually I mean it's a very strong combo lane is so much damage right
if you actually get caught in the like jikiro combo plus the the frog stomp
pullback you're not escaping without a grappling claw but again Largo can
dispel your grappling claw I don't know if you want to play for this this is
to be pretty scary a lot of damage coming from the jikiro the frog stomp as well pulls him out
fade inside this nature's grasp taking a ton of damage now it's jikiro versus kez he will have
his full spell get back up kez it's not going the way that you want nice parry little frog stomp
some more damage the catchy lick that's gonna be another kill three in this top lane now you
You are very low on resources so you need to be careful.
Thinkin' about it.
They're just cutting all the trees again.
They were gonna try to get that Tram. I think they were, but Tram was smart, played safe.
He's just gonna do a pull to try to fix the lane for Kez to come back.
He's got a wap because he actually did die earlier and TP'd in and then died again.
So this is the best start in their top lane we've seen from Gamer Legion?
Legion yeah by far and the water also going quite well and then carry up to
here has been okay like we've seen them sometimes drop the save lane at this
point it's also been okay and then subsequent mistakes later cost them yeah
so we'll see if that gets them again this time there's definitely a line if
you gotta be careful of shadow demon and Mars can easily combo you if you
step up too far that being said shadow demons in a lot of trouble does
he get another napalm stack no good timing on the disruption then otherwise
that right here might have been able to turn that one around there your health
right your illusions have no bad that was very funny he's just the right here
oh no it's more gets the grappling claw does he have anything to catch him get
some of the catchy leg from behind the tower killing spree bird fade there's
some big frogs out there eat little bird little frogs little birds what am I
saying big frogs eating little birds that's the yes
alarm go but that's what he's doing as he's like yeah I think it's more of a
slurping sound at all how do you start when you come that far out yeah I don't
know just try dry food all right this this thump is becoming a problem they
They cannot get away from this in the lane.
Yeah, it's a very powerful combo
that we just haven't seen them been able to like
I know they want to make it work. They know it works, but this is the worst
I finally happening solo kill from RCY.
You got the level six.
So sport team denies.
All right, you really just cook in the lanes right now.
Six and oh, not much of a gold advantage, but with that solo
Puck will not respawn in time for the six-minute power room.
For Reconyx, FBZ is still doing pretty well.
Yeah, I think you're gonna need to play around him.
Like, try to help with the mid a little bit,
especially to steal the runes away, unfortunately.
Uh, I think he's actually gonna give another kill over.
Uh, RCY, does he have Astral Steps here?
Okay, no he doesn't.
But this will force Dream off the wave entirely
because he can't get away from the Batrider even,
with his spells being on cooldown,
He's gonna have to be careful. He didn't shot
Yes, or been one, but okay, baby
All right, I see why he's gonna bottle up maybe they're gonna go contest the wisdom shrine now that think you should
You're feeling pretty strong the problem is you are taking the shrine into the strongest hero on
on the side of her comics I think your bat rider is a good enough counter that
there's not much you can do to stop it so yeah fbz he's gonna back up give the
shrine this is a huge XP win for gamer legion I think we're gonna get really
early level six now Reconyx needed to bring heroes earlier to stop this
the
one there's a lot easier I did a look at the
And top lane your Kez left alone once again to burn to this duo.
Fades now level 6.
And as the lul on the Shadow Demon, try as best to survive here, can't do it, RCY still
just staying behind the tower, looking for these heroes, Tramp Protector luckily invisible
next to the tower will be fine.
Well, I'd say that.
Maybe not for long.
He's now visible.
no longer invisible. Dias loses his career. This is a bloodbath man. It's 11 to 0. Bignum
denies an arcane rune. He's got to do the walk into the jungle. This is pretty brutal.
Kez is not a very fast jungler. You can be for like a couple spells and then you're
out of mana. Then it's a very slow jungle. I'll be honest man, we had an idea of how
this lane was gonna go. And it's pretty much going exactly how we expected it to. I don't
know, like the tree protector, it's a strong hero. It's looking at me wrong, but playing
into a Jekiro and the Largo where they have so much slow and manipulation. Yeah,
These are two of my most played three of my most played heroes actually this top lane this triant jikiro and
Largo, I guess Largo not quite yet, but I've been spamming them
I feel like you can't auto attack because you're getting nitty stunned by frog stomp and a tax load by
Jikiro you like just don't get any damage in and actually most of trance laning impact is insanely high base damage
So when you can't auto attack and you like you step up too far
And you just can't ever get back either because you're being slowed you're being catchy licked frog stomped like you can't do anything
So it's all on Kez to do the rest and then Kez is not that strong on his own
He's also quite squishy on the Kez
Yeah, that's that's the other thing. It's like the the Kez matchup the reason I was worried is like this is not a
Super tanky hero in the lane. He kind of relies on using his spells for damage
But uh, Shakiro and Largo kind of remove some of your spell impact.
Yeah, I'm someplace the bottom tier one. They're looking for the top lane power rune here. It spawns bottom. Nothing is going Reconyx's way.
It's an Enviz, which they will take for RCY, but with the vessel complete now, the Batrider level 6, your Shakiro level 6.
Like, there's nowhere that is safe.
You can't contest these heroes and now Fade showing up in the mid lane just to offer some assist
They will find the Trian pulls them right back into the frog stomp
Don't even need any anything else there
There's gonna be a fast axe for Fade
He's already more than that way usually usually this thing finishes at like 15 plus minutes
uh especially like 18 to 20 yeah it's gonna be real fast if he finds like
any more kills or his stack at all fbz you can kill in too many heroes such as
fbz he can't really even arena like if he arenas they can still chase him so
that will be another kill for him pulls back playing playing some tunes here
he's got to take a look at two seconds pulls them back in just to keep
harassing. I mean this 4-4-0 build has done some work. Lasso mid lane onto the
puck does manage to smash him out with the damage. Beth Lane breaks Gotham. He's dead.
More than close. Yeah the offline Largo actually skips the ult. Could be
ultestill like help your teammates and now you're a core you're like I don't
help teammates so you don't actually get it until you you have your aggs.
You just use the other abilities to fight and farm as you showcase right
just stronger abilities to to beat down this casual. I mean we've talked about it quite a bit how
gamer lesion on paper their drafts have looked really good. The biggest problem has been
the follow-through on those drafts. This is one where their follow-through might be
exceeding expectations, you know, 14 and 0. We've never really seen a
a match quite like this top lane trip
sector again just getting bullied out
by fade it's not going to quite get the
12 minute maybe 13 minutes still about
800 gold away but Chikiro playing near
his boys like there's just so little
space on the map of the farm that this
Kez has been sitting at the hard camp
in the corner and that's about it
the problem is because things have
been going so well and then they
stole the wisdom trying these supports on gamer legion are very level dependent so
they're high level higher level than kez at certain points and so they could just
solo threaten also it not even kez just the support right like how does triant
deal with this you can't even walk into this area big no bro speed did 99% of the work on that
That's a little rude, but okay.
Triant wouldn't be that weak if I didn't beat him in the lane, so that's really my kill.
RCY's coming to kill the Kaz men.
They're going to kill anything that they can try.
They're going to make the plan a big one, but it's definitely a bait.
Macro fire down.
Here comes the vessel onto the Shadow Demon.
A lot of attacks.
I think Remnant missed.
I think he did miss the Remnant.
Okay.
Okay, he's going to survive, ours like doesn't have a regen rune.
He wants to use it, overgrowth.
They're overcropping, this is definitely a kill.
Dude, he's just going to survive.
NPCs not here in time with the arena, which again you can just escape out of because you're void spirit.
They force all five heroes top.
A bad end is just freely pushing bottom.
If you haven't lost the wisdom shrine overgrowth would buy enough time for Mars to get there to arena spear
Before catchy lake could dispel the overgrowth and then you can actually you can get on the board
The fact that they don't get a kill there hurts so bad and the Ampsons gonna take another wisdom shrine away
It's kind of really fast. I'll be honest the gold deficits not the most that we've actually seen at this stage of the game
But it has to start hurting
Like you start hurting like 10 minutes ago, I was like like
Like mentally that you still don't have a kill like that
We still don't have a kill guys like that's that hurts a lot. They're gonna look for big numb here. Maybe fuck
I'm gonna go down to the shadow demon the vessel plus the bat rider easy burn damage there
Okay, you got yules on FBZ you need him you need disseminate to boost your low damage to accept of a level and then you need to puff
Those three heroes are required to kill anybody
And I think he saw the tree
He walked right under a century place earlier from big num and they tried to pull him out of the trees
He knows there's nowhere to go another kill for the jikiro meanwhile bottom lane
They're looking for the last so yeah, you get dusted though
So they see you that Ravens veils not gonna keep you alive goes for the fairy, but doesn't matter speed
another kill for them
All right online I gotta say I only play support Largo. I never get to build eggs
It's actually cool to hear both songs get played at the same time
Yeah, I like that. Can we get an 800% volume adjustment to only hear this?
I'm just kidding, please, that's everybody's ears.
Oh, man. I mean, you really just need like Mars, Coil, everything to kill a single hero at this point.
point but to do that you kind of have to hope that the Abaddon is not nearby and Abaddon has a radiance.
I don't know, up on his own. I think he's been saving his skill points for his ult though.
Yeah, there he goes. So he's fine. Use the ult a little. Well, I don't think it really even
matters. Like Demonic Purge came out. You find three heroes. You're just getting information
for your team yeah he he's just playing in the dangerous area the map to try and
get vision and farm I don't think he actually wants to he shouldn't die he
should not walk up and die yeah this is a questionable movement though if they
have vision of the twin gate which they do here okay the other two so they
puck didn't have a way to close the gap so he actually kind of looks out there
That being said, big nub, from the top here once again, we'll find the lul, nice path
comes through, there's going to be the damage in from the rest of his kit, oh my goodness
they die so fast and they've managed to find another kill on the kez, bottom, dream now
just watching from the sidelines hoping to just escape.
The canny gets speed so fast, if he gets the lasso here which is still available,
He's gonna be forced to coil this or something
You're not actually gonna kill the batter this man's tanky especially the bad and right next so I'm gonna try and TP out on the tree
I'm not enough those sacrifice himself at least for dream
Yes that writer is the highest base strength ranged hero in the game
Yeah, jacquero is actually I think the second or he's up there anyways, so very difficult to kill these supports
Once you fall behind and you're lacking damage
is 21 to zero the whole team glowing with kill streaks right now okay hold up
hold up you'll spear can they bring down the jikiro I think they got them
we're on the board baby shut them down big num finally dead we're gonna get the
coil here but the last one comes out pulls in the pocket you might be able
to survive but the question is can you kill the voice beard silenced up they
You really need this, but they can't do it.
The Raptor Dance doesn't connect.
And now, RCY is ready to turn back around.
Astral Step on and gets the Vessel,
doing a lot of damage and a little bit extra healing.
Or Barrier is going to do it.
And with this, Dream manages to escape on a sliver of HP
with the Abaddon, which is the rest of them back.
So 23 to 1.
Nobody kills us 22 times in a row.
That is true.
pretty gold favorable for them for how far behind they were.
That was actually honestly less money than I thought,
but still nearly a 700 gold kill on the Chikiro.
So when do we go Roshan, right?
Like we've got Largo, we've got Abaddon, Batrider.
I feel like Roshan has to be
high on the list here for game religion.
Or they just wait, go for Roche, or go for Tormenter first, then maybe the Roche on?
You don't want to give up either of these.
You don't.
I don't think you're giving up Roche.
Like, I don't know how you can get Roche on.
We're in comics, with the, the way you're at, like, Shadow Demon's actually pretty good at it,
but you still need damage from somewhere else, and you don't even...
Oh, Battlefield has a bullet in it, dude.
Speed's got a bullet.
He's looking for the lasso, they find FBZ, he gets a scythe,
The ag is under the pullback as well. They're looking for the target. Who's you gonna find?
It's gonna be the shadows demon ice cat there FBZ stuck in the tower, but the coil is gonna crack onto all three
But the Largo ag's baby. Sing your song. You can't stop them
Three four dead now behind the tier two tower
I don't think Largo's actually singing
Yeah, okay. He's strumming his songs playing his music shout out to fate on this one seven zero and seven the happiest frog
We've seen yet from game religion
I'm glad to finally see the vision of the off-lane Largo play out here for game religion because the last two just did not get to
Connect but this time around then you see the game religion boys had a pretty fun game
Reconyx not so much. I don't I
Think the trust is okay
I'm honestly not sure how the kez into that kind of lane is supposed to go though
I think if this game was anything to go by
that's probably not the counter picture repeat in the future.
Yeah, I will say, I mean, I'm sure they are aware of the fact that they've been playing the Largo and the offlane,
especially seeing Batrider avoid Spirit, but this is just not a lane that this Kez can play into.
Even with a strong laning support like the Triant you mentioned, this hero's, a lot of his damage is his auto attacks.
That's what he offers to the lane, and you're playing into Frog Stomp and the most attacks though that exists in the Jekiro.
So doesn't really get to do a whole lot and you can see it in the score lines, right?
27 to 1 every lane being an absolute disaster for Reconyx
The solo kill from RCY in the mid lane when he gets to level 6 just slowing up dream
Rather just making him come to a complete stop on the puck in terms of contribution
Yeah, this was a good join from gamer Legion. I think a confidence booster as well because they've yeah
they've been struggling a little bit and
It's I think it's extra frustrating when you can't tell
Like we think it's there the execution more than the idea
But like as the team you're like I really believe in our ideas like you know, let's do like is it are we wrong?
Is it them like is it us?
So to be able to win and to see it work out. You're like, okay, okay
Like the idea is good. We just need to keep improving our execution
Which they definitely did this time. Yeah, well very very quick game here
We got one more if I'm not mistaken here to wrap up the evening and it's going to be OG versus Navi
So stay tuned to everybody. We'll see you just short break here and then we'll jump into my last game
I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to my room and see what I can do.
I don't know what I'm doing here, but I'm just going to go back to my room and see what I can do.
One more game here today for Blastlamp 6 day 2 of the group stage and it's gonna be OG versus Navi
A very fun series
Hopefully we'll see you know we had a
Absolute beat down on our last one gamer Legion almost going almost shutting out their opponents at 27 and 1 in just 20 minutes
But surely we'll have a much more action-packed series here between these two teams Navi has looked pretty good
We got to watch their series earlier against Yandex which that one did not look very good
So we'll see if they've managed to recover a little bit
Yeah, we'll see what they
They learned from that one. I think the key takeaway there was
When it's not that their draft can't work
But the linchpin was the storm and he didn't get enough help and once he couldn't do anything
No one else could really do anything
So, we'll see if they either adjust the draft or just give him more help, either way could
work.
Uh, OG, I'm kinda curious to see what they're gonna do.
I think they've had more flexible drafts, uh, like it can come from different places.
They're not so stuck on like one hero has to do well.
They give themselves multiple options.
They go for the sneaky first blood type plays, and as a result they're fighting
for the top spots still, or top two spots I suppose, top two teams from this
group stage get to just qualify straight towards the end and OG looking for a big
win. I feel like this team is impressing a lot of people. They're placing pretty
well and hearing them talk, you know, they're happy that they've done that,
you know, but you still want the win at the end of the day. We'll see if they
can speedrun that by getting to the top of the groups with another win
here. Yeah I mean they went 4-0 on day one right like this was the only team to go 4-0 on day one so
to come back in today start off 1 and 2 not fantastic but they could still finish the day
with a pretty solid record overall um on the other side though Navi uh sitting kind of in the middle
at 4 and 3 so this would put them in a pretty good spot if they can get the the victory here
I think overall these teams seem pretty evenly matched that being said I think
I think OG has more momentum, like this is a team that has looked really good when they look good
and I think if they have a solid draft, they don't really seem to make too many mistakes
so I'm optimistic to see what this OG roster can do.
I also just want to see a good, like a better draft out of Na'Vi, like in the last series that we saw them
like they lock in the offline Bristleback even though we didn't think it was going to be that great of a game for him
And like you said, it put a lot of pressure on the storm spirit to be kind of all your tempo, all your playmaking in the mid game, because you knew your side lanes were not going to be great and it just got shut down.
So we'll see what they adjust here in this series.
Yeah, Navi needs to make that kind of adjustment, because although I think this team, I don't think they're bad by any means, but I do think they have a wide range of performances.
and I think average Navi loses to average OG.
So Navi needs to be playing well to be able to beat OG.
And as long as OG doesn't choke too much,
I think they should just be slighted to win.
They've been just doing better lately.
I like their drafts and overall plans, play, execution.
I just think it's been fairly consistent, surprisingly.
Usually that's not the strength of an SEA team,
but ever since this roster came over to OG,
I don't know what extra advice they've been getting
if it's just like the team came together,
but they do different things,
but it's been pretty consistent
and they've been doing pretty smart stuff.
And that's why they've looked pretty good.
Yeah, well, we'll see.
We'll see what happens.
I think we're in for a fun one.
Overall, this tournament has brought us
like a pretty wide variety of games.
I think it's part the patch, but also the format
where you have a massive best of one group stage.
And teams are going to be experimenting and trying things,
just because as we get into the playoffs,
you need to have a pretty good feeling for what works
and what doesn't.
And the fact that no one gets eliminated here is a really,
in my opinion, great part of the format.
It does still reward the teams that plays well
and punish the teams that plays poorly,
but at least it gives you this training ground
for all of these teams.
And then as we go into the playoffs,
It's really going to be which teams have learned the most that are going to benefit and potentially
come out on top here at Blast Slam.
Yeah, we'll see what they come up with.
I want to see Schem on OG.
He is a baller, position 5, because I feel like he'll just farm up a lot.
But they don't always give him a hero to do that, especially recently.
I think they've been giving him more like lane-winning supports that don't scale up as well
But I feel like when you give him a hero who can do a lot
He is a player who will do a lot with that money
Yeah, like heroes like Chen for instance, you know
Yeah, he's got absolute beast but he just gets banned out because they know to fear the skin Chen
I think you should definitely fear it
We'll see what happens. I think we're getting ready to jump in the draft here in a moment and with this I think
I think. There is first phase
first band is the Chen so you're not going to see it for OG. They'll get rid of the Mars tree protector and the puck.
It's always interesting to see if team teams want to mix up the first phase bands, you know,
right now, obviously Viper still in, but there it goes.
Some of the Huskar, you still have Razor, we have J'Kuro, Shadow Demons, Tiny's, like
all sorts of heroes that can be picked up here in the first phase.
Yeah, I think Navi tends to like to open with more utility kind of supports.
I would say that's always true, but I feel like that's where they tend to go.
Brewmasters also been an opening pick for some of these teams.
Okay, we'll get rid of the razor huskarm.
Yeah, I can see the brewmaster.
It's not as, I mean, some teams will pick it overall first, but it's not, I would say
the most common overall first pick.
Sometimes you see it in this next one, for like second pick or getting a chance to.
We'll see the overall first pick shadow fiend though for Navi, good flexible hero for the
sidelines.
And there's the brewmaster.
This is the spot I like the brewmaster picked, I think the most, because if you
You see the hero that, you know, it's already good against, especially in this case being
a flexible Shadow Fiend, like Brumaster loves playing Shadow Fiend.
As long as you're not super far behind, right, if you're playing the lane, you have a good
solid 4 position, which right now there's a lot of them still available.
Tends to do pretty well.
Now this first pick Shadow Fiend is not something we see as much now.
It's pretty popular in the qualifiers leading up to these kind of events, but I think it did drop off.
But some seems ready to bring it back around, it seems.
Always got to keep your eye out on the Tusk pick up whenever Shadow Fiend comes out.
Clockworks another one.
Unironically, I think Largo with Shadow Fiend is actually not too bad.
But not a lot of lockdown for the Brewmaster.
like you lane okay but as the game goes you really can't stop the the brew split from coming out
and then being lifted up in fights you can't dispel that so then you're just unable to contribute
yeah all right i like the weaver band that's been one of the heroes we've seen quite often
into the brew master they will go for the jikiro this is the one i really wanted to see
is it going to be the jikiro the bat rider i think both lane very well the brew master and
And we've been seeing a lot more success on the four position jacquero
That being said it can still be played in the safe lane if they want
And you could still get the bat rider to knock back that yeah
But I like this. I mean either one would have been okay bat rider or
jacquero
But you take one and then you see what Navi picks because there's no guarantee this is even the carry shadow fiend
Right, you could just go mid and you know with different carries that would do well versus brew and then your jacquero
where you're a bad rider so you don't want to keep it too hard until you see what you're
dealing with.
Clockwork goes down a little bit now because Twin Terror can actually like just feed on the
cogs so I wouldn't mind the Tusk if you still want a strong lane with the Shadow
Fiend.
Like even into Brewmaster to Cure, it won't be easy but you got some play potential
there.
They slip up.
Okay, a little bit of burst damage from the hoodwink, I love that it's just running
on the wheel. That's a definitely ringmaster thematic.
Very rodent. Yeah, right.
Largo. All right.
We see the Largo come out into the brewmaster.
Jekiro, if this is like a five position Largo, this kind of salvage is what would have been
a potentially difficult lane for the shadow fiend.
Yeah, I think as the game goes on, there will be some counterplay from the brewmaster
into the Largo, but in the lane you can at least have a playable time because you can just chill and
dispel some of these dots coming out, but you can also pull people back for the multiraces.
Pretty straightforward, Kerry. We haven't really seen a lot of gyro ourselves, but
pretty safe into the heroes we're seeing right now. Yeah, I was gonna say, I think right now
you just want to pick up a strong melee support to sit in front of them. Totally fine with
with Tusk, I think that's the most straightforward.
Down the off-limbs.
Down the off-limbs, that Largo can pull people over the ice shards.
Yeah, I was going to say the other option is clockwork,
which is a great counter to shadow fiend.
Yeah, sure, do the clockwork themselves.
You could go for that.
Nice to find the hoodwink running around
in the trees as well.
Yeah.
I think you should just pick your other support so that you can save your last pick for your mid
Counter to whatever Navi goes for unless you want to try to flex this gyro support and like keep it weird to do this
Like final pick which tiny
You might have been on to something there's act might have been on something I
Think it will still just be gyro carry it's now just a question of is this position for
tiny or mid-tiny and it's this four or five jikiro yeah I think you're right
I guess you could do tiny five it's really awkward but I guess with like
it's the melee hero with gyro
I'd rather just see mid-tiny though
They banned out the Mars themselves on Na'vi.
Yeah, first early ban, which looking now Mars would have been pretty sick.
In terms of offlaners that are left, there's not a ton.
Okay, let's go for the underlare.
a little bit of a little bit
of a safe pick. Decent
control, right from what we've
seen pairs somewhat well with
the hoodwink. It's not like a,
uh, you know, one of the most
straightforward pairings, but.
Bushwack into Firestorm. A
pit of mouths to follow. There's
some play there. Yeah, it's
also an amazing aura builder,
which everyone knows, but I
really think you need that
when you go for this Largo
to boost the effective healing of island elixir with these various aura's like type and
I was gonna say grease but old habits that no longer the armor or on that one crimson guard though will work I
Think you need another playmaker though, so I I'd be fine with just carry shadow fiend and then you grab
Grab a mid here
Oh, what if you do how would you do under lord carry actually we saw that earlier under lord carry into brew master
I mean with Largo actually does sound kind of nice the only issue you have is that is like jacquero's attack slow, right?
True, and I think Largo does handle that pretty well. I
Don't think you necessarily need to though is the thing like under lord is not a bad matchup into the gyrocopter because he
wants to build a crimson card for the flat cannon and on top of it like atrophy or does reduce a lot of the flat cannon damage in general
You right
Do you get rid of the slard are like you said I think I
Don't think I said that but I'll take the credit. Oh, I thought for some reason. I maybe I just imagined it in my head
Smarter in your head than I am speaking off-street
There's Beastmaster after the Bristleback. I mean, the Bristleback's been a hero we've
seen Na'Vi play a few different times. Played in mid, right? So, it gives you a good minus
armor to play around with a carry Shadowfiend, which I do kind of appreciate the idea of
that. In terms of other mid heroes that offer minus armor, Pango is the one that
comes to mind. There's not a lot you can do about a Pango right now.
True the defuse also owns I think that one's okay
And at the Windranger
That is a rough period that's a project for the gyro I guess yeah, he doesn't like MKB
The last bit will be the Ember Spirit for Navi.
Now at this point, I'm feeling you pick a direct lane counter to this guy.
There's no Huskar of course, but you could go for the Monkey King if you wanted.
and a lot of you apologize heroes are banned
she just take the tiny
that's what i'm trying to actually think that
the tiny mid is okay like it's not like you crush the matchup but you need a
playmaker and that's what tiny is
i mean i don't think it's really you can pick a different carry
than gyro and do the weird gyro support if you wanted to like what if you just went ursa
i was one of the same thing cuz this is a really good ursa game
like
you can't uh... once ursa has like blink bkb shadow fiend really struggles into the ursa
and it's not a good match for underlord either
i just don't know support gyro is all that great actually though that's the downside
to that
it does damage
if all you think about is like you kinda just want some damage i don't think it's
That's really that bad
Like oh gee would do it
There's dragonite. Okay, so might just be dragonite man. I don't think they're gonna go too crazy here
The old pause is typically the dragonite player for these guys so yeah, you'll pause dragonite will be Tim's
On the tiny not sue me gyrocopter
Okay, you should be able to slow down the Ember a little bit, Dragonite's got some good damage.
And you get some help from Tim's as well, he can definitely rotate over on that tiny
Brewmaster.
Once you get the lane back, Brewmaster's a pretty safe hero to leave alone, so he can
show up mid before Ember has Remnants, try to mess with him, slow him down.
Because we kind of mentioned this in the last series, but Navi, their main playmaker,
this ember which I'd say he's safer than storm because just the way chain gang works like you
don't even have to commit you just throw in the remnant and chain gap so even if you do have
a bad time into this dragonite you'll be able to do something but your life is easier if the ember
is doing well so I think it is worth helping him out however you can the support is okay
Yeah, I feel like I've seen this match up a decent amount. I don't know if it's actually that bad for ember
Like the flame guard kind of just shoves the wave
I don't know if level one brief fire stops the first level of flame guard, but either way it's
Eventually dragonite does kind of out sustain the lane and the minus armor from you know the the corrosive dragon facet eventually helps out, but
As for the other lanes
I think Shadowfiend Largo should go pretty dang well.
Like they've gone for the tiny which, you know,
Riddies doesn't have a lot to dispel there with the catchy lick,
but Brewmaster does not get much value out of this pick in the last lane now at all.
So I'm guessing he's just going to be playing for his own farm
and not really being able to apply a lot of pressure to Shadowfiend.
me. I think so. The observer to block the camp. That's an interesting one. Well, I don't
want to have to use too many of their sentries for it. And you do know that's what Under
Lord likes, is to have these camps stacked up for him.
Oh, that's a mean one!
Would you go to the afterburner facet for the gyro just to help play for the lane, right?
Like when you're against like a melee offlaner, typically you want to play for the afterburner
if you think you have kill potential.
Which with a jikiro in lane, I think you actually do.
And I'm curious if Timbs is going to sit bottom as well at the start here, because
if they do manage to, you know, pull one of these heroes out of position, the afterburner
fast it should be able to allow them to find first blood. Good work from Navi, he's gonna scout this one out.
Body blocks begin. I'm actually a fan of letting the the first creep go through
if they're just trying to get this lane to come back which i would feel into gyro jikiro you
you might want to try to prioritize yeah let's do some creep dragging in do your best on it
also flak cannon gonna help shuffle him out real hard anyways yeah exactly he's gonna try to get
what harassment damage he can with the flak try and deny any creeps at the same time
and getting denies on jacquero not gonna be easy once uh at your pure is online
top side he's going for a creep drag so usually you let the creeps like block
the small camp as you go through the last second they did the weirdest split
and the camp actually spawns and he loses to the creeps in the creep drag
that hurts. We already know the play style is like creep drag and you know live now that you have the tiny four and that's
not his one. I mean you see how much trouble is causing him right like he's trying to get this through here.
He's taking so much damage. He's going to run into the shopping. Yeah. Yes. The turn back the other way and
Riddies with this Largo's boots first just whacking away at these heroes
I'm gonna catch you looking back up
She's actually missing some creeps under tower during this
The goat is OP man that thing is so strong
The wave does hit under the tower
So this will fix the equilibrium as long as they don't get a a pole here on the side of Navi
It's a wacky but smoothing out for them up there down here, Yopash
He
He's just barely out of range of the chains. I think yeah very good moving movement there making sure not to get in range
Plains looking pretty even overall though. Well, I say that
a little bit
Harassment there from the bottom lane duo
Oh, the hurricane. Sometimes you just get griefed by the not so neutral creeps.
Honestly, these creeps being, or these trees being cut make it very annoying for hoodwink
to land bushwhack, but also make it really easy to land these flat cannon harassed.
Exactly. I think you do this typically when you're playing the jarrow anyway, but the
fact that it's benefiting multiple ways is really nice.
your courier
i feel like he moved it down and then he got lazy and send it back and almost lost it because of that
another rickett that that creep really does not like the hoodling
mid lane they're kind of positioning to look for yopah she is low if they get a searing chains
Which they do the procs on one grenade. He's dead. That being said the tower not enough to finish the job. Nice rotation in
We'll see how much that ends up affecting the level six timings here because Dragonite would love to have that for the first power room
Uh, they caught the gyro as well. Wow. Alright. Really good stuff from the bottom lane duo now.
Yeah, I'm not sure on that. I think going...Wu-Tubes? Hasn't loaded us from earlier.
Uh, Nico is here. He'll do a little bit of damage. Riddies does have to catch you.
Look, can't get in range to use it, so Tim's gonna juice through the trees there.
Skem comes back with a little bit of a vengeance to find that kill.
I didn't have the avalanche, he does.
They might be able to kill him.
The toss in, the clap, he didn't get it.
So he got the knife!
Oh my goodness, what a play from Juice.
How intentional was that, though?
I mean, I think it was.
He attacked the neutral creep, didn't he?
Or was it tossed?
It was the only one of them was like the, I don't know.
Either way, that's a pretty sick play.
The Hellbear Clash is more powerful than Thunder Clash.
Oh, six minutes. They get the kill, turns into...
Level 6 for Yopah, he's taking a lot of damage here, burning to this Ember Spirit as well as the Largo, but Niku now without his ultimate...
And so, hobblos way back to the tower, Jakiro picks up the illusion...
Niku will get Level 6 off the wager in a moment, drop a remnant to try and see if he really do not want to let him do that.
Playing aggressive behind the tower trying to force it back avalanche here onto the Largo does have a little bit of health to play around
Catapult is getting to work on this tower though. So is the corrosive dragon attacks and so is the liquid fire
they they're trying to clear this creep wave out to
To be done with this pressure
But you they lose about half their tower in the meantime
And to cure a pole to a creep wave with illusions so that the creeps would just whack away at it. It's pretty sick
Top lane Niko he actually went no points in his cask
Knowing guys just get dispelled by the Largo. So just three points in the passive
the stance rather
He's not really the best to proc as well. What happened here? It is the right to cost the hell there in
BOOM!
Everything clapping at once with the hell there, just a little...
It's got huge forearms, right?
All the muscles coming in in one go to clap first for the kill.
Dang. If you toss the other creep, you get the kill, right?
That's what hurts.
Hellbent might have walked out. How dare you throw my potato friend over?
and
the main looking to put a little pressure here with the help of the link with your college very healthy as tower
All right, oh in this room in the bottom lane
I kind of like this evolution where
You know before you just let the midlaners do it
I don't know over time was like oh, it's so important
We should bring supports to the room and recently we see the other sideline cores also making their way mid at these power rooms
They just see their whole camp being stolen right after Tim stacked it
And they saw the rotation coming in too, so that is a painful loss for them.
Bottom lane, PMA, the flat cannon I think they got him, those last two auto-tacks will be enough.
Breeze unable to save him.
At the same time, they run in, they don't save their stack, but they at least get a return kill.
I think stealing the stack is still worth it for Navi.
They're losing the Underlord while you're distracted over that.
Maybe that does work, okay.
Overall, very close lane stage.
No one really falling too far behind.
We haven't really seen the brew split come out quite yet, and that's why we see juice
here in the jungle, knowing you can't really contest the brewmaster once his ult's available.
Junkiro will make his way top, start to liquid fire down this tower.
He's gonna go to Midas, okay?
I mean, you don't really want to build a vessel into the Largo as this guy, right?
So I'm not too surprised.
Yeah, I think of all the heroes we have seen who have tried buying Midas,
I think Rue Master is the most acceptable, and then maybe Invoker still.
as a like a second because you really do enough with your your ultimate it's kind
of been your thing on the brew master but you have a lot of late game items that
make you a lot stronger so the Midas helps you get there.
This is level four rocket barrage. Niku loses his flameguard immediately mid lane that
dive takes down the Largo and with the dragon form that should be a very
dead tier one tower mid so they're gonna have two towers now.
Little bit more of the map opening up their way.
I thought the brumash was gonna walk up and just slap it real quick. Take the last hit.
Man, you might as. Come on. The sooner I get it, the better.
I don't think Navi needs to... Yeah, that's like, that's what I'm worried about.
I feel like Navi needs to get together and do something, because all the tier ones are pretty healthy as they are losing their own.
They're gonna reach a point where you can't move around very easily.
They're bringing everyone for the skim jikiro here, making them work for it through the trees.
Tim tries to save them with a lotus, but a nice bushwhack comes through and they'll get the kill.
I mean said, you're losing your bottom tier one tower, right?
They're positioned here, jirocopter as well as Niku.
Niko, there's so many people with this name.
good scan they know they know this is a bait kind of get someone to defend so
they can fight but it does mean that's your third tier one down yeah I think
I've done a whole combined 500 tower damage across the lanes so what's the
dragon I'm scaling for right now is he building blink daggers he going like
the armlet just okay he has blink all right this is a big timing the
The follow-up damage will easily be there because they jump for this underlord most likely.
Natsumi has called down four points in the rocket barrage.
Nope, they're going to take the jump out.
Yeah.
Do you think mid-dump?
Hold up.
Maybe.
They'll catch someone off guard in the mid-lane.
Blink, dragon tail, avalanche pause, but Niku able to survive for now.
Okay, they brought more numbers
That's a very good play from I'll be knowledge. They have avoid the gank
But they get a kill mid and with the shield rune on the Ember spirit
Might be able to take their first tower
I think you kind of need to push that a little more
He's so bruised split is that I keep forgetting man that this guy's just been like like quietly farming in the top lane
The Largo Tom
I
Split at least I mean they're gonna get it I
Think maybe not he's in earth stance screwed up. He's very fast very tanky
So patient from him to not force the ultimate. He will get it now
So really good movement there from the Ember spirit
That took them a while, but they will finally get the first first Bruce promise foot of game
And now you get to try to take it tower
That was so funny you like respond to a thunder clap and you die
Wow funny for us funny for us funny for the viewers, you know, we like funny stuff. We're
entertainers at the end of the day. Yeah, the pro players they play for our amusement.
It's like truly the Colosseum all over again. Both teams looking for a smoke. It's a nice
potential play bottom as the wisdom shrines spawning oh underlords headed over
there yo pause will walk in never mind he will walk past it and look for some
farming PMA really has that move from him here he this is exactly he's been
farming realizing that the team's missing the wisdom shrine just respond
does not want to risk it so both shrines should have gone to the radians
I'm getting that much power damage in the middle of all this
Amplify damage maybe helping a little bit, but it's not fast
Your ember spirit
Does he be careful link dragonite is in the game, but he's just there's gonna give it up
looks like they want to go far they know there's other heroes hereby
all right just a minute straight of watching an ember spirit click a tower
he does it guys okay ember does a lot of damage to heroes but uh
structure is not so much let's see if you can go find a hero this time
Through master 15 seconds of the split. Oh, would they go on the wrong side?
I mean they're playing the songs, you know the movement speed trying to zoom in around the map and see if they can find
their pickoffs, but through master dodging out now having primal split makes it a lot more difficult to actually catch this guy
I think that he is we're gonna look for
much bigger target in the shadow being the Primal Split.
Requiem does catch them, but there will be the stun.
In comes BMA on the Underlord.
We'll get tossed to Requiem there.
Another stone.
Here comes the stuns now from the Gyro.
Pit of Malice is down.
Icebath is there.
Where's the rest of the damage though?
You gotta help out.
Niko, his splits ended.
He's gotta find something of big clappin'
on a three-derry-star Dragon Knight.
Blinks and Dragon Tail.
Brief Fire actually catches all four
as now the damage splashing around
to these heroes. Zayac on the run, nice bush whack to get some space, but can he actually
make it out of here alive? This Jarocopter is so quick. Couple auto attacks will do
it, and they do manage to find the Ember Spirit off the back end of that Dragon Tail,
but one Remnant, this 80, DP's back home, a three for zero, a nice fight coming out
from OG.
I'm just kind of in the wrong spot because they tried to find the brew master, they split
up after that, and then it was heads up from OG realizing like okay they're gonna be in
a weird spot because of the play they just tried to make, like let's go in and it works
out.
You don't quite get the SF kill you were originally going for, but you still win
some, you get enough kills that you can now get Roche and you bait Tims.
Yeah, he's just sacrificed on himself. Yeah, maybe you can save him if you get the road she passed about.
Oh, ice path? I mean, he's still definitely dead, but the whole thing was, he planted a ward, they saw it on Aviv and they didn't really go to D-Warning.
He's like, oh crap. And so he just runs his body in there with a haste to try and stop whatever was going on.
And it works out. They get the Aegis. Definitely make that trade.
I know what to mean is building up a lead here.
SF's not too far behind, but the thing is if only one hero is doing well then guess what?
That's what Bruce Blitt is for and you just lift that guy out of the fight, handle everybody
else.
Oh no, hold it, Blink.
Niku not even phased, just farming.
killed by two dragons not fair three I mean you could argue
not see me is really starting to pull ahead here on the jarrow copter will have
the matches files somewhat soon there must be a lot more expensive than it used
to be
Blink that are almost on the tiny that's a really big
So you've played a lot of supports Largo I have he's going for the solar crest that seems to be a prestandard item
I like you want to get some actives and then it's like the shard right that you're playing around
Yeah, I would say solar crest is your safest default build because you want mana on this hero and
and dropping the Solar Crest before you arcane helps give you more mana regen as well.
And then the slept on part of this hero, the heal looks great,
but Bullbellied Blitz with a right clicking hero is actually quite strong.
So then you Solar Crest them so they attack even faster,
and then it ends up being quite a lot of damage.
But we haven't quite gotten to see that this game because
they struggled to find the right fights.
I guess I say that it's 9 to 8, so I guess they found some.
Oh, Dragon Knight, Dragon Tail, Avalanche, Ice Path.
They don't have it? They do?
Okay, yeah, the toss comes in at the last second.
Very good spell layering.
I was wondering, you know, they're holding the macro fire,
so I started to get a little worried, but...
they will commit for it in the end,
and with Ember being dead,
might make it difficult to contest the Tormentor.
He'll be up with just a few seconds before it spawns,
but you will be able to position...
however you'd like on OG for that one.
Yeah, that kills possible UTV avalanche change on A.
Before you had to avalanche toss together, but now you can save one, then use the other.
It just gives you that much more stun time, and it's moments like that where we see K's
off.
Oh, instant find in the bottom lane, avalanche.
He does walk into the ice bed there.
He's saving the toss back so he can't just TP.
He will get it out now, and he will survive.
So should get the D-Words though.
Yeah, these are the wards right away, which is, yeah, half the reason he was there.
And with Tormentor, you need your Dragonite.
The Minus Armor is a pretty big deal when it comes to actually finishing with the Tormentor kill.
Niku, that's the safety. He'll be just fine.
Alright, he's scaling down on the Dragonite.
He's got the Mask of Madness going to the BKB.
He's gonna be a real threat as this game continues
Scab
That was unbelievably close
One more instance of damage and he dies
Unfortunately
For og the shard goes to the tiny would have much rather have had that on the jikiro
kind of hide their time through this the crimson guard is in the works for
underlord but it's still a bit away recipe pretty expensive nowadays I think
with that though you hit a really nice timing where you take out so much of
gyrocopters damage between pipe and crimson guard maybe you can win the
Especially you lane a good requiem.
I think the BKBs are on the way as well.
Or at least the one for not the juice.
The Enmerced did a pretty good job at trying to split push.
I mean, I know he's gotten caught a couple times, but
someone needs to do it.
it bottom lane looking for the tier one tower Tim's the avalanche did you pull
them back for the moment but they do not want to give up anything they TP the
whole team in gonna see if they can actually find someone though with
Largo playing his movement speed to and I doubt it what's this one called again
the movement speed one beat hustling out of there hot beat hot feet hustle
Great stuff
Island it looks okay, okay, okay
Well fun build fun abilities. I'm never gonna say those. I'll just be honest don't worry. I got you. Yeah, this is that's you got it
Maintain your grievance activities
You can do a trick where you turn off the ult and then only play a song every five seconds to keep the grooving stacks going.
What do you think it's kind of worth doing when you're doing these kind of smoke plays so you enter with the stacks already?
Oh, that's a really good find.
He just finished the BKB as well, does not manage to survive.
Now PMA topside, he's going to pull his whole team in, has the pipe.
I don't think he can make this play anymore yet.
Niko will go ahead and send his pandas out of here.
you lose to check your own as well they're going to be chasing
the Bruce晶P is getting close to ending the end of the job it's like going off the right year of so
I'll be fine some really big guilt here
We're seeing this we're starting to see some of the synergy come together the auras from the underlord with the aoe healing of the Largo
He is queuing up the shard now that he has no hope of getting it from the tormentor anytime soon
The dragon night, I mean he started farming but now that he has bkb
you're not gonna be seeing him die that easily but they clearly have the damage on
na'vi to bring him down smoke expired to the hoodwink in the trees put out a
lance finds that one and that's sacrifice tank to smoke
They are twin gating, they're hoping to find the ember cutting these waves.
They don't know where he is right now though.
If he doesn't go into the wave again, he'll be fine.
Where's his safety remnant?
In the river.
Okay, he should be fine.
I'm going to cut this wave and skip the one earlier.
Yeah.
Holding onto just a slight lead for OG, but not significant by any means yet.
The fight comes out looking for the groove.
But man, the damage.
Force steps on Ford, put him out,
spins out a nice ice pack into the McRapire,
the Dragon Tail, the pullback from Largo,
the second Force pass, they will get him out.
Puss in though.
Didn't connect on the avalanche until a little bit later.
There's good cheap Niku alive,
but no, the Dragon that comes in,
blinks on the Dragon Tail, do they,
they didn't pop the BKB!
Yobaj, down to a sliver of health now.
And as a result, the Ember's gonna live.
The chase in for more, got the deuce,
Force the BKB as Tim's looks for the Avalanche. Big call down. Will connect, but you Gyro can't do anything here. No one's dying.
I'm man on the Largo now, but he's done his job. He kept everyone alive through that.
I mean, you have to BKB on the Dragonite there. There's no way.
We caught off guard by the frog stomp, maybe he's gone, I don't know, but yeah, if you
BKB, you at least pick up the Ember kill.
We're seeing the damage issues, though, into the Underlord when he gets his Aura's off
into the Largo Field, if you can't silence him.
And how many saves come out?
Like I think there's three different catchy licks on this Ember, one, and then back
to the healer.
and then all healing right now, dodges some spells,
Ketchy like number two.
That avalanche toss hurts.
And then here's the blink, drag and tail.
If he's BKB'd here, I'm pretty sure they kill him.
Maybe he didn't see the bush whack
coming from that angle.
Yeah.
And Tim's looking for something,
but at this point you have no vision to play around,
it's really just hoping that you can connect somewhere,
but you've already used everything you're saying.
Jarocopter is farm but couldn't really do all the damage you wanted to in that fight
kind of like chasing from behind for a lot of it.
As his data list now though so the damage we were saying is a little lacking, well now
if you crit you will definitely go through that crimson guard.
Roche will be up soon too, this is the perfect time to win a fight for both teams.
Largo. Maybe not the hero you want to break the smoke, but.
Getting their eyes.
He's not bad. He's relatively tanky.
Is a really good smoke angle.
We'll see if they actually managed to find the heroes.
We jumped right in.
But what?
Did they toss him over?
They did.
OK, maybe there was a disengage.
They're like, yeah, this is not the fight.
They just toss him out and run away.
Maybe that was the idea.
Maybe the call was to retreat.
Were they trying to throw someone else in?
I don't think they just chucked him in.
OK, brewmaster mid lane.
Does he get to split off in the last second?
He will.
Dragging out of the backside this time does get the BKB.
But the song, man, just playing the team out of it.
They just kite away.
And you've got to be careful.
Jarrow copter does get the dispel there. Thanks to
the brew split but
They're they're spending almost nothing on the V just got the DKB out of the dragon. You got brew master's primal split. I
Think you just forced rush now
It is we're bull belly blitz actually did a lot of damage to row switch over really switch over they're healthy enough
No, just heals. I think Rosh is dead already if he does the other one.
Alright, with that, got the juice to get Aegis. Network is almost dead even here as we approach
30 minutes. And the Shadowfiend mashup started to look pretty darn good.
Timz does manage to steal the Shrine of Wisdom and TP of Safety, so nice little movement there.
That did a good job with Shrines, but worry about playing to the Shadowfiend.
Oh, he's been really on top of it with the Shrines.
Yeah
Not to me still not opting for a BKB
Just needs raw damage. He thinks the man to hurricane pike Daedalus now making butterfly
It's kind of true.
Yeah, I think late game BKB for him is much better than buying right now.
I think you need the SF to kill the gyro and the SF has no way to get to the gyro easily
in these fights.
So as long as you keep your distance well, you'll be okay without it.
than too close though or get tossed in different story. She was done for the the ember that'll
help boost the damage in these fights because honestly even though we've been hyping up
under Lord and Largo the enemy side is also pretty tanky like you have to go through
Brewmaster, then he splits, Gyarathok is gone quite tank, you get a Dragonite.
Jekiro is actually working on a Vlad, so in these drawn-up fights his team can also steal a bunch of health.
Ember is just playing aggressively to zone out Scam, it's going to work as they will get the Tormentor now,
they knew it was up, and the Shard goes to the Largo, ooh, that's a good one.
Very nice, I get that for free.
He's already got the Solar Crest, he will also share the Ketchy Lick region,
And then the Croak of Genius as he gets to this 15 talent, I think the percentage HP damage would be really worth it.
You just stick it on Ember, and you just apply it to everybody in these fights so easily.
Yeah, Underlord also not bad with Firestorm, but anyone who like easily applies a lot of AoE dot damage, you rack up so much percentage damage in a single Croak of Genius.
The machine is to and the vessel on the ember so
I think the synergies off the charts there
Not yet has to buy it himself like some kind of peasant
December's done a really good job of trying to find the brewmaster and force his abilities there's gonna be the break
He's a tanky hero though the AC completed agonist up there
He's gonna be forced to pop the split run for his life as he's got one band of left and the damage from the shadow feed is a pretty overwhelming
He's doing his absolute best, but it's not gonna happen chains comes out right away. They shut him down
The movement speed and the solar press being provided from that Largo is actually doing so much work
And because he got the shark for free, he actually chose the holy locket for his next
item.
So this will be pretty cool from his song.
And you do share the, you don't share the burst heal, but you share the healing amplification
buff, so you can use it on your ally, but also keep yourself alive.
not see me sneaking away in the trees.
And they've been playing really well here on the off-gages.
Again it felt like they were slightly on the back foot for most of the early game
and now they have you know this ages they've got a lot more items they've
They've kind of just weathered the storm and I feel like they're looking to outscale Na'vi
now, especially with the auras being brought in from the Underlord, as well as this Largo.
Alright, the two of these heroes are doing so much to make this Shadow Bean even stronger.
Wow, they actually dropped the banner just to get the tier two and waste this fortification.
I kind of like it.
It's really interesting.
When they changed the banner, the first one is actually worse than it was before.
Yeah, but the second one onwards is better
So maybe they have no plans of going high ground. They're just like yeah, just use it to get a tier two
Let's move on and we're not really gonna go high ground. So we have a better banner anyways
Yeah, I mean ages
He's expired the juice they find juice they jump right in Kenny in the line
He gets the BKB off can he actually turn this one around absolutely Tim's is that on the run is the dragon night?
Held in place by the searing chains now the best soul just gonna burn him right down three dead
as OG run for the Ales, not Sumi just watching as his team crumbles.
If you don't get the kill instantly, once the Auras come out and Larga starts playing,
you are just not doing enough damage in these fights. SF is a great target to find,
but he himself is quite tanky now that the Satanic is done,
and his whole team was actually prepared behind him.
Yeah
What they're gonna strike the catchy
Catching like doesn't care about what way SF is facing whereas otherwise like sports that sometimes you like send them the wrong way
But catchy lick pros and cons to it sometimes you don't want to pull your carry back, but when you're saving people it's really good
Yeah, plus I'm a bonus feeling like you mentioned the oras
the dragon actually yeah the dragon had opted for a
a
Blood form which I'm not a huge fan of this game. I mean, it's
It's usually a great item when you need to pick off like a certain like a very specific hero, but
You have DKB on the shadow fiend
The ember is like also kind of unkillable for this
He also has DKB
So who dies to this blood form he actually needs to find the Largo
Yeah, yes my large science Largo and that idea is cool, but the windows closing because he's working on a birdies
No too late on the avalanche
Number spirit will walk away
All right gyros queued up in the vine right here and to be fair, I don't think he has many other options
Now you need the damage. It needs to be just like straight-flawed to get through the crimson bar.
10 miles from the Agatom Scepter of the Underlord does come through trying to finish off the Takiro Niku.
Should have no problem in doing so. We'll get out on the Brewmaster, but...
It's another big kill and Brewsplit is well committed.
to be delivered to the shadow fiend. He's going Guardian Grease, dude, on the Largo.
Yeah, he actually managed to kill him. I was like, he'll never kill him.
They're just going to wait for the next rush and it's going to spawn two minutes,
kind of long for Navi, which is good for OG because they want, I think they want
this game to drag out honestly at this point I'm not sure if you're going to be
able to outscale but don't feel like you're in a good spot right now and
that usually gets better the later the game goes because you get into wacky
ultralate game Dota yeah I mean he needs a gyro 25 and divine rapier at this
point right like that's that's your play the flat can and cooldown hoping
you have enough damage with this to kill heroes
near him. You would like stand near him to make sure he's in vibe but...
Do you sell something? Maybe chop-chomping? That facet is so...
It had some cool uses and then they took it all away.
Yeah. Alright, it's the divine.
The divine at the ready just needs to assemble it whenever he likes.
I gotta say, the keeping the components locked is fantastic tech.
Some real baby stuff though, like, come on, commit, do it, just unlock.
I don't think the Divine should be able to lock like that.
You gotta just be all in with it.
Alright, combines the Divine, they're right under award.
The smoke's gonna pop, they see Tim's board placed on the high ground, PMA with a nice
bit of mouse, but a pushback, might have a little bit of space.
They put things up the rocket and if you try to find some space, Dragon Tail is out, the Bloodthorn is there, but where is their damage?
McRaphire, is it enough to drown Copters Black? It's doing work!
This Divine Rapier had caught him off guard and now two are dead, the Bi-Bat from the Ember.
Where did they all go?
They got destroyed by the Divine Rapier. Oh gee, you're doing it.
They got the gem from that too, now they'll get the Roche to protect.
Some of these right keep the second the illusion see it
Not to me come back
Okay, well
Okay, you mentioned was before it's here now. Yeah, you mentioned it like with this black can and you have 10 attacks
It's all the gyro right with this divine rapier. He has
nearly 600 damage
10 attacks that we're gonna see here. I believe he's under the Vlad's as well.
Yeah, he's hiding really well. I mean his position here to wait to bait in Na'vi
before going and then by the time it's hitting everybody. Yeah, he's flacked the
entire team and Riddies just dies to like two prints on the high ground.
Yopah's also able to join the fight. Yeah, they were not prepared for that.
That was really well done from Nox.
Unbelievable turn of events. They swung a massive gold lead back their way.
I think they were down low at like 7,000, something like that, or 4,000.
Yeah, 7,000, no, 5K advantage with an Aegis. Tier 2's taken.
It had been a downward trend for a long time, but they had to lead.
They had to leave so it it felt like they were losing control of the game that Naughty was waiting it and they were
But I love the call like we need the damage on the divine. We got to go for a big play
Absolutely pays off
But you still have to close it actually we're still we're still in this 40 minutes
Nobody has breached the high ground quite yet
You do have ages divine so I think you're feeling pretty comfortable even have the refresher
I guess double flag can is kind of good. He doesn't have a BKB though like in with all this stuff
I guess it's fine. Yeah, it's actually he has like I think I would probably rather get rid of my treads and have a BKB, but
Shard for scam finally getting rewarded after the first one went to tiny
You know I'm an 8,000 gold advantage agonim scepter nearly completed
Surely he starts selling some stuff.
This guy's got too many items in his backpack.
This is when now the damage is almost too much, because you want long drawn out fights
on Navi.
It's how they were winning, right?
The auras from the Underlord, the Gaelin from the Largo, and now the Divine is
doing so much damage you're playing three notes and you're dead and I don't
they have just about every armor like what's left AC that's about it I don't
know how you cut down the the damage from the gyrocopter besides just killing
him first and he buys up the ag synth by the way he doesn't want to hold it so
he waits to deliver it until he has the recipe for the synth as well so
side gunner now available. Two minutes left on this Aegis as they smoke into the
enemy triangle looking for something. Navi doing a pretty good job at avoiding
any fights right now during this Aegis timing. You do not want to fight until
it's your high ground. No. Good ward though from Scam. They don't know about this yet on
Navi. We'll see if they can find the target. Niku not quite in vision. Tim's
Okay, jumps up doesn't find anything
Love the vision now they know there's a ward
work place on the left side of the
Face as well as the gyrocopter cracks that tier 3 like it's nothing and we'll get to work on the lanes of racks
And this is where that side gunner is doing so much work the crimson guard. Yeah, the trimson's reducing like over a hundred damage
But it doesn't matter
Black cannon's out, you need to be careful.
Ah, and I scrapped the bush away.
Get him! The structure's on the mark.
Doesn't get to use his BKB initially.
They're gonna pop the wreck.
He'll not soon be forced to BKB and run away.
Alright, some signs of life here from Navias.
They find the brewmaster.
So, dang, quickly on the top side.
No ultimate.
Without a BKB on your gyro, you will leave.
They find the jikiro as well.
Leading some kills here on OG, more kills.
Four juice on the Shalkeed, which I mean, those are lasting present stacks, so you gotta be careful.
Giving those up.
Characopter. Good call to bring in his BKB early. A lot of people save it in the backpack.
You die to the Aegis and then you swap it in, but you can't actually activate it yet because it's usually still on cooldown.
So that's what Gott the Juice was hoping for. He was gonna Requiem Chainstone.
It's a good call from
Natsumi
Well, he just has to use it to get out of there cuz he has the divine
He can't afford to risk losing it and his teammates are the price they pay
Surprisingly squishy on this
Yeah, the brewmaster needs an A on disc at this point
Well that but also the gyrocopter. I feel like they went through him really quickly
I mean shadow fiend hits really hard and he did have you know the
The full hoodwink kit right like boomerang sharp shooter like it's it's serious damage
She don't even have a boomerang yet. It doesn't have I'll just sharp shooter them. I guess
She does I guess from the
Yeah, true. I'm very curious. Yeah
I'm the the percent HP damage often for the extra save range on the catchy lick I
I mean this is a lot about Gotha juice keeping him alive in this fight.
It's like him vs Gyro.
Who gets to do the damage in these?
We'll find out.
Juice just hits his level 25 so he's very happy now.
His soul's at 28 right now.
A couple bonus souls.
I think Riddies, as the fights get close, Riddies have to maintain these 5 groove
stacks because it is it is the difference of 20 armor for him
even more once he gets the level 20 time and that'll that could keep him
alive through the flat cannon for like you know one or two more auto attacks but
I could make the difference
You know we had some fast games today, you know, I'm glad to see one starting to go the distance here
We get to finish up the day
Ultra late game go to perhaps fuck it up. We've only made it halfway. Oh god
I mean gyro is gonna be finishing up the satanic soon that is
Pretty much a must buy on late game gyro, especially when you have something like a BKB in a Divine Rape here, but
See quite avid.
Gonna start chipping away the tower here with the brewmaster ultimate and the tiny toss.
They look and find Tim's.
Pops the eblade, pops the BKB, trying to run away with the damage from Juice's bar too much.
That is a dieback. There's a good BKB TP out. They want nothing to do with this.
Can they find more? Ember Spirit? No.
Fold is engaged from the side of OG.
Nika, wait a minute.
What is he doing? He just looked for the melee. Almost the melee rags, the crimson guard, barely keeping it alive.
He actually focused the melee at the end there if he had hit the range one more time.
He thought it was gonna end. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean his whole team was being chased out there, so he was like, oh, I'll try to get something for this play.
It's a smart idea.
At least get the gyrocopter out.
But that's a lot of your big spells and it's a death timer on
Kind of amplified damage found on Niku as well
I think you push down and try to at least look at tier three right if this is a well rose
Okay, Roche is close. Yeah, I know
It could be quick, but we'll see who
The gyrocopter had the refresher shard for a while. Did they move it?
He still has it. He still has it. Okay a minute long Roche. Okay, so somewhat fast, but
not be able to prefer it to be much sooner I mean the safe play is to wait
for Roche and they I guess they don't have the info but I feel like you can
push on the high ground knowing he has no buyback and it's not like they can do
Roche well like what are the odds they sneak around you to do Roche on an
instant spawn while you're pushing the high ground yeah
Oh, they find the brew master. That's a big one. No, I said
They might have the damage to kill first. Okay with the rest of the team coming in
Absolutely beans gate. It'd take them right back to the roast bit. They're gonna check but
20 seconds till it's up
They're so fast with invading force and hot feet hustle. Yeah, they're just zoom. It's like a haste for the whole team
Arcane are in bottom here. They'll probably want to give that one over to the Ember spirit
As Roshan it responds they try to the Gem in there so they know they know this is up
We'll clear out the mid wave
OG waiting patiently
Hoping someone might walk down the high ground there and get surprised but they will have to try to test the Roshan
Well, never mind, there's no chance you're making it now.
This is dying way too fast.
This is now the third banner as well, so its effect range is 1200 and has 10 hits to kill.
Jair was not a very long range hero, so he has a hard time dealing with this.
You can constantly break the hydra.
They managed to find the tiny, that's no force, is BKB.
Yeah, you can place the banner so far back.
Yeah, it's going to make the toss back really dangerous to go for, which is one
of your strengths on this high ground defense really want to take the fight
outside the base here I mean you need to catch him off guard
otherwise the banner goes down and like how do you defend
they have the one word uh jikiro four steps a little brown double mix from space
but here comes the second bit of malice and jikiro not uh not gonna last very
long here niku will be forced to bkb but that is a support without a buy
back they don't know that but I think you should push I appreciate the idea from
OG unfortunately they lost their gem earlier so they don't know they're just
like walking through some vision on that I think they were walking up to check
for the ward and just gets underlord ultied right like it's such a risky play
I think you have to take some risk though. Yeah
Well, maybe not but I don't know that that's where you're in this late game situation
Right, you just got to take your best bet and sometimes throwing them off with a really risky play is something you can go for I
Think if you let them set up with all the auras the banner ages, right? Like I don't think you can defend that so
We thought so last time the jar walked in and killed the whole team so I
I'm still not gonna count the OG's high ground defense out yet, and I think Navi is a little bit afraid
Ember's going for his own divine, so I guess they're not as confident as I am either. They don't believe in the drop the banner and push play
First there's something else besides a scythe on hoodwink could also be huge
huge. What about brew master just splitting and killing the range racks top? I'm down
for it. Just send him in. Do something. Well there's your boomerang after 15 minutes.
It's the latest boomerang I've ever seen. Yeah.
Riddies needs to get a ghost setter so he's not just being killed by gyroflak, but
I would love to see him get an axe as well and then because he's approaching his 25
Which is essentially an extra level in your ultimate. Yeah, it's a huge boost
Refresher on the brew master
I'm not really sure which level 25 talent you go for on this here
I don't really see a lot of games go this late with brew masters, but
The fears also a lot generally pretty sick
We'll see what ends up happening smoked up from Navi looks like they're ready to barrel down the the lane here
See what they can find
Two minutes on this a minute 55 seconds left on this ages
Good wink though. They're gonna be a little careful. She's got a reconnect
She's out there amplify damage. I guess you can't really spend the time running back
It's you just need to get the waves in right? I feel like we've got to see them make a high ground attempt here at some point
I think they're hope they want zyphs to finish a scythe and then if he finds someone he can
Scythe stun long enough for fiends gate to come over. Yeah, that's true
How close is he?
Great crew you see scouts out the rune. He's got the scythe. They know the amplify runes there embers on the way to get it
They're trying to bait that high ground warb from earlier
OG has learned their lesson though
there's no way this just ends up being a like a kind of like a farming math
control ages right like as many pros will tell you and coaches and analysts never
go high ground yeah it's an absolute bait you have to respect the gyro divine
right it is such a hard push you have to toss back on the tiny
Well, like Dragonite's a legitimate massive damage dealer at this point.
He has Agam Scepter, he's got to say Tannik himself, like terrifying hero.
Gyro's going for the Swift Plank so he can get himself into the center of the fight now.
Largo's got the money to buy his Ghost Scepter, I think you need that to come out.
I smoke knowing the ages just about to expire
Six seconds left on it, I mean finding the
Largo would be a pretty amazing way to open the fight
The wrap around you'll deep on this from org. I mean also finding underlord is not bad
If you manage to stun him before he can get his fiends gate out. That would be enormous kill
they do you see the Largo courier, but
maybe to come for the power rune bottom. Dyer scanning looking for anything both teams
and not the greatest up. Dude no one's seeing each other. They have to go back to going out.
Yeah. They get some some ward though they get a ward on the. I like it a lot. They don't
even take the rune because they want to know when the enemy takes it and if someone
is showing you know you can just jump like right there. Yeah. It's a great idea. Unfortunately
I don't think they're gonna get an opportunity. Well, they see it taken by Largo.
Ember?
They're trying but he's in front of the back.
Do they have the damage? I mean they have the damage early, but do you have the catch is the issue?
Avalanche toss could do it, but he does have the A on disc on the the Ember.
Yeah.
So he can that's why he's the one taking all these risks, and he's not walking that close to where he could get tossed to like the
tier fours right he's letting the creeps walk out of the base a little bit out of
the blink range of tiny and then he's clearing them. I'm surprised how things
just not casually going for the agonist sent here like I know you don't
typically want to like you typically just want to be auto attacking in
fights but I think the requiem fear the double fear is still pretty damn
I'm strong I think. So he's instead going to opt for a...
...Ius Scotty.
He's good control, help reduce some of the healing coming out.
Yep. Especially from the Satanics. Tank himself up as well.
These are some brutal fights. There's so much damage coming out.
I think it need to have a lunch.
Boss, he'll get the A on disc. Here comes the pen house though.
Comes to pin him out, so...
Not quite committing in yet.
Well, I said that PMA just jumped right in.
There's the side that you get him on the bush back.
The damage on it on Tumi.
They get him, but they force the BKB.
He can actually take Taniq everything.
He will have the refresher if you can get back into this.
Yopa jumps in aggressively.
There's a good chance on the shout out beam.
He needs some help.
His BKB and Taniq is still at the ready,
but where's the gyro?
He's backed by the tier fours.
They're getting picked apart.
They're gonna buy back now on the tiny.
not be in full control to fight Niko.
Gonna pop his refresher.
His BKB is available to jump in trying to find
Got the juice.
There's his refresher.
His BKB not seeming to try to run.
He's got the control, but can they chase?
It's finished a kill.
They can't.
He gets out for now.
All 10 heroes still alive, but 10s.
That will be a dieback on your tiny.
And they're looking for more Ember, Spirit,
playing aggressive.
Pop the BKB.
As a refresher, he's just gonna do it all himself.
takes down one looking for another the series chains the bushwhack all on top of
not to be trying to get away but you'll find I've got nothing left it's the ember
spirit show baby another series chains the damage for the shot me it's
overwhelming not me take some out three dead but don't buy back see if they can
hold themselves in this game the ember spirit's gonna tip you back to base
he's got a remnant to still play around but the base it's crumbling you've
got no fortification left this got the juices looking for the tier four
Towers 38,000 gold advantage now is no buyback for man.
There's the last banner to keep these creeps alive.
Final four, can they do it?
It's going to be difficult in here.
The pit analysis, slowing them down.
Jekiro's going to buy back into the game,
but no tiny to offer the control.
These are everywhere, holding them at bay.
Dragonite should look to blink in.
Yopage, get text.
Can they keep him alive?
Absolutely not. It doesn't matter not to me on the trial copter to do it again
But just zoned out completely and with this it's gonna be the end of the game
Maybe it's going the way of Navi. They take them all down full tieback says the ember spirit tries to dive up
No, I'm not to me. I'm gonna go down quietly, but the game is what matters and they've done it Navi
Incredible comeback from them
and like absolutely insane.
First of all, great pressure for like the 10, 20 minutes
they have to hold that position, right?
Constantly pushing in the edge of the face.
At some point, OG, he knows like,
ah, do we just do this forever?
No, we gotta try.
We gotta go on that Ember, but he is, he's prepared.
He's got the A on, he's got the BKB.
You cannot easily kill this guy.
You think you can.
He refreshers, he has it again.
He's jumping in everywhere and then the call at the end
just like, we're going to dive.
We're going guys.
This is it.
Insane plays from Niku to set up his team
and everyone doesn't so free
because everyone's trying to like keep track of this Ember
Shadow Fiend unbothered in the final moments.
Just gets to sit and auto attack.
Yeah, with the Largo behind him, right?
That's the thing.
The Largo the whole time sitting behind the Shadow Fiend
just enabling this hero
and like he said, the call from Niku to go in,
he knew that they've used everything.
They have no Satanics, they have no BKBs.
There's nothing left in the tank from OG.
like, yes, Dragon Knights in Dragon Form, Gyrocopter still quite strong, but the Ember
Spirits Refresher did an absolute ton of work in this fight and allows them to walk away
with the victory and a very important victory. We were talking earlier about the placements
of both these teams. Navi previously sitting at four wins, you know, OG was at five.
This is going to basically tie them straight up.
Yeah, no one has, no one's got like a perfect record so far.
Tundra is the best right now at 6-1, maybe not too surprising here.
Classic Tundra.
Classic Blast Tundra, but that's, you know, that's, there's still more group stage to
go, so there is still a shot for these teams to get one of those top spots, so this win
was really important.
And also just an impressive play from Navi, it kind of went up and down, honestly,
the way they lost, sometimes it's, it's rough for a team because like, oh you slid
like you know that's bad but the reason they fell down in this one
OG had a really good play like I don't think that was a slip up from Navi that
was a really sneaky divine fight from OG that everything just went their way so I
think Navi being able to go through that bounce back and still win this is a
really good showing for them yeah this was a an excellent game from both teams
I don't think OG should you know be too ashamed of this loss I think Navi
the game. We're going to be
back in the game. We're going
to be like walks away like
better execution. They get the
victory here and. Very fun
game to watch very fun game to
end the day, and that is day
two of these groups under wraps.
I believe the mainstream is
still going on right now with
liquid versus extreme. So if
you guys want to check that
one out, you can finish the
day there, but we will be
back tomorrow with the final
day of these best of one
group to see how everything
kind of finishes up. So we
We'll see about.